| Saturday, March 29th, 2008, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:24] | lyricnz: | linux backend, and the osx frontend – 0.21 release binaries from ... |
| [00:00:47] | k-man__: | the OSD has this sort of shimmery effect, could that be something to do with the interlacing? |
| [00:00:59] | lyricnz: | http://macvana.com/mythtv/FIXES/ |
| [00:01:15] | lyricnz: | Or http://macvana.com/mythtv/RELEASES/ |
| [00:03:46] | otwin: | lyricnz: i will get an appletv from the US next month and will install some linux distro. from what i've read at awkwardtv.org this shoult work. |
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| [00:04:21] | lyricnz: | I like mac, and it's way more useful (to me) as OSX. I'd just like to play myth content too. |
| [00:04:39] | lyricnz: | I'm gonna get a mac mini for the bedroom, maybe with the next refresh. |
| [00:05:18] | xand: | fgs, why does the lenny debian-multimedia repository have mythtv 0.20 but etch has 0.21 :| |
| [00:05:30] | directhex: | xand, ask marillat |
| [00:07:20] | nordle: | Do you guys enable/disable dithering on your GPU's? |
| [00:07:36] | otwin: | lyricnz: for my needs (no HD), in theory, the appletv should be fine for me. |
| [00:08:14] | lyricnz: | Yeah, I'll have a HD tv in the room. And appletv isn't much use down here, as a product itself. |
| [00:09:00] | lyricnz: | They don't even sell it here, afaik |
| [00:09:14] | otwin: | lyricnz: in europe it's pretty much useless – which makes me wonder why it's so expensive here. |
| [00:10:27] | Huijari: | has anyone here had problems with xine showing only green picture after watching something with mythfrontend or vice versa? |
| [00:10:43] | directhex: | Huijari, nvidia driver 100.x? |
| [00:11:39] | Huijari: | directhex: yeah |
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| [00:12:53] | xand: | hmm... two dvb tuners + multirec = 4 "encoders" in mythweb? |
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| [00:13:10] | Huijari: | directhex: 100.14.19 to be exact |
| [00:13:14] | directhex: | Huijari, how do you think i guessed that? |
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| [00:13:56] | otwin: | xand: with 'max recordings = 2' I reckon yes. |
| [00:13:56] | Huijari: | directhex: that's a known problem that i missed because i was too lazy to search for it before asking? :P |
| [00:14:27] | iamlindoro: | That is the best user conclusion I have ever heard, full marks |
| [00:14:50] | Huijari: | \o/ |
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| [00:15:58] | nordle: | I found I get green/pink in xine, and to get a proper pic I HAVE to watch mythtv livetv for 1 second, then xine+mplayer are fine.... Another point to myth :) |
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| [00:16:24] | iamlindoro: | or you could just upgrade/downgrade you nvidia drivers and not worry about it... |
| [00:17:27] | ** otwin wonders how long it will take that amd/ati cards are better supported than nvidia ** | |
| [00:17:43] | directhex: | otwin, try "never" |
| [00:18:09] | PatrickDK: | otwin, ati cards have never been supported in anything other than windows, ever |
| [00:18:18] | PatrickDK: | they never have attempted to help others |
| [00:18:20] | directhex: | otwin, i've seen 0 improvement in 4 years |
| [00:18:23] | PatrickDK: | and their windows stuff sucks too :) |
| [00:18:29] | directhex: | PatrickDK, my altix has an ati card! |
| [00:18:46] | PatrickDK: | directhex, you will get no pitty from me :) |
| [00:19:00] | directhex: | it can't run crysis :( |
| [00:19:03] | directhex: | even with a terabyte of ram |
| [00:19:05] | otwin: | directhex: well since amd took over they are releasing much more info |
| [00:19:16] | iamlindoro: | Oh here comes *that* business again |
| [00:19:33] | directhex: | otwin, so use that info |
| [00:19:38] | nordle: | otwin: I lost this argument about 12 months ago, nothing has changed :) |
| [00:19:44] | directhex: | otwin, download the register maps, and improve the open-source driver |
| [00:20:10] | PatrickDK: | someone help me replace my o2 sensor |
| [00:20:14] | PatrickDK: | damned thing won't come out :) |
| [00:20:42] | otwin: | directhex: heh – as i said 'i'm just wondering' |
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| [00:24:24] | nordle: | I find the whole thing strange, I mean heres a product, millions spent developing them, soooo much technology, sooo many capacitors, and yet on both lin and win platforms, they barely work properly. |
| [00:25:20] | iamlindoro: | Millions spent on hardware, dolla fitty spent on software |
| [00:25:32] | nordle: | :) |
| [00:26:11] | clever: | 3$ on a bare frame buffer and you solve all your ati problems! |
| [00:26:11] | clever: | :P |
| [00:26:11] | clever: | i for a few of them |
| [00:26:14] | otwin: | i don't have any ati hw, but i'm just reading the news about them releasing specs and stuff – and that definitely changed since amd bought ati. |
| [00:26:15] | nordle: | mmm thats weird, the first time I've seen black google |
| [00:26:15] | directhex: | 29% of early vista crashes caused by nvidia drivers :) |
| [00:26:47] | clever: | ive got compiz working well on ati |
| [00:26:52] | clever: | with xvideo&mythfrontend |
| [00:27:10] | clever: | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02) |
| [00:27:18] | clever: | but that card cant mangle the xvideo as a 3d texture |
| [00:28:01] | clever: | so the effects dont blend into the video perfectly |
| [00:28:27] | otwin: | which reminds me that i actually have an ati radeon on my thinkpad – and myth always crashes on playing video... |
| [00:28:32] | PatrickDK: | directhex, but who in the right mind is going to use vista? |
| [00:28:53] | directhex: | PatrickDK, it's a better windows than xp |
| [00:28:58] | clever: | on my nvidia dell the xvideo can be a 3d texture |
| [00:29:07] | clever: | so i can make video transparent! |
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| [00:29:10] | PatrickDK: | I dunno about that, nothing I do can be done on vista |
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| [00:29:25] | PatrickDK: | I can't even properly use client side certs |
| [00:29:30] | ** xand ROFLs at directhex ** | |
| [00:29:56] | otwin: | directhex: definitely not in a corporate environment... |
| [00:30:04] | PatrickDK: | clever, transparent video? sounds like a waist of a cpu :) |
| [00:30:12] | clever: | PatrickDK: its done in the GPU |
| [00:30:21] | clever: | but it doesnt have to be fully transparent |
| [00:30:24] | PatrickDK: | I meant the cpu used to create the video :) |
| [00:30:27] | clever: | i can easily make it 60% |
| [00:30:37] | clever: | so the irc behind the video leaks thru some |
| [00:30:48] | clever: | while the vid is still watchable |
| [00:30:58] | xand: | otwin: not at all, ever. |
| [00:31:12] | clever: | windowskey+wheel to addjust transparency |
| [00:31:19] | clever: | wait no thats zoom |
| [00:31:24] | clever: | alt+wheel is transparancy |
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| [00:32:12] | otwin: | xand: there is simply no reason to replace xp, especially if you're server is samba :) |
| [00:32:25] | xand: | recent samba works with vista |
| [00:32:31] | xand: | but still, vista is teh suck |
| [00:32:47] | otwin: | xand: there is no 'reason' to upgrade |
| [00:32:59] | otwin: | users ask 'why no vista' |
| [00:33:00] | xand: | otwin: you don't need to convince me :) |
| [00:33:15] | otwin: | reply: why vista |
| [00:33:17] | xand: | I tried vista on my new work PC for a few weeks... then promptly upgraded to XP :P |
| [00:33:21] | otwin: | xand: i know :) |
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| [00:40:37] | purserj: | anyone alive? |
| [00:41:02] | xand: | read up a few lines? |
| [00:41:49] | purserj: | ah |
| [00:41:51] | purserj: | cool |
| [00:42:37] | purserj: | just looking for anyone who's done any work on mythnews |
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| [00:48:09] | rushfan: | So, as usual, mythtv is messed up and the backend is saying: 2008-03–28 20:46:34.521 MythSocket(8c0a80:-1): writeStringList: Error, socket went unconnected. |
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| [00:48:17] | rushfan: | a nice generic error |
| [00:49:46] | rushfan: | http://monoport.com/8269 --> Theres the more com,plete error log |
| [00:50:02] | rushfan: | Oh, and the frontend segfaults |
| [00:50:58] | nordle: | I've just read this fantastic entry on the wiki: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PCI_Latency Just wondering, what have others got there PCI latency set to on IDE/SATA and PCI based DVB cards? |
| [00:52:08] | directhex: | i've never felt the need to mess with it |
| [00:52:26] | nordle: | eg lspci -v | grep latency -B3 |
| [00:52:47] | nordle: | I have, not being able to transcode and watch live tv is a bitch. |
| [00:54:42] | rushfan: | Hmm, if mythtv keeps segfaulting like a mother should I try changing my deinterlacers and stuff? |
| [00:55:49] | directhex: | rushfan, if your frontend is segfaulting, it might make a difference. a stack trace might be more useful though |
| [00:56:00] | rushfan: | directhex: yeah Ill run gdb tommorow |
| [00:56:17] | rushfan: | Right now Ive got stuff compiling so the machines a bit jittery |
| [00:56:31] | rushfan: | directhex: should I gdb the backend and frontend at the same time? |
| [00:57:09] | purserj: | hmm I wonder why launching mplayer from mythnews is dropping all control |
| [00:57:10] | directhex: | if the frontend is what's segfaulting, concentrate on that |
| [00:57:24] | rushfan: | directhex: but when the frotnend dies, sometimes it takes the backend out with it |
| [00:57:25] | directhex: | purserj, you're not using a WM which handles focus properly? |
| [00:57:36] | purserj: | directhex: xfce |
| [00:57:47] | directhex: | hm |
| [00:58:00] | purserj: | I'm pretty sure this is down to a code change I made |
| [00:58:08] | purserj: | so I'm trying to find where I flipped it up |
| [00:59:08] | purserj: | I'll run strace and see what's going on |
| [01:00:18] | purserj: | okay that was completely useless |
| [01:01:37] | nordle: | Soemthing is wrong, I think, with the freespace warning thing. CalcParams(): Max required Free Space: 8.0 GB w/freq: 15 min Is repeating thousands of times. |
| [01:02:37] | alexvd: | hi all i have a tira-3oem that uses the irman protocols. Is this broken on the current build still? |
| [01:03:25] | alexvd: | I guess I mean the lirc version included with the mythbuntu |
| [01:03:53] | PatrickDK: | ask mythbuntu people? |
| [01:04:09] | alexvd: | ooops wrong window |
| [01:04:27] | PatrickDK: | but I would doubt it |
| [01:05:10] | squish102: | does mythfrontend use more than one core, or will it help with HD playback? |
| [01:05:35] | alexvd: | PatrickDK: It was really a lirc bug |
| [01:06:13] | PatrickDK: | oh? |
| [01:06:35] | directhex: | squish102, if it's compiled with pthreads support, and you configure it to, and your file can be threaded (not all files can be decoded on multiple cpus) |
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| [01:07:15] | squish102: | thanks directhex |
| [01:08:12] | directhex: | h264 in particular requires that the source file has been encoded with slice support |
| [01:19:38] | nordle: | mmmm I'm off to actually watch some mythtv rather than keep tinkering with it :) |
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| [02:06:52] | ** J-e-f-f-A is confused... A year ago I had a 1Ghz PIII with 512MB ram and an NVidia 5500 playing 720p HD with just an occasional stutter... Now with a 1.7Ghz P4, I can only get about 5 frames per second with XVMC.... ** | |
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| [02:27:38] | TelnetManta: | what would keep a remote frontend from being able to play live tv from the backend? |
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| [02:28:39] | PatrickDK: | J-e-f-f-A, I don't think you know what 720p content is |
| [02:29:04] | TelnetManta: | I get: RemoteEncoder::openControlSocket(): Connection timed out |
| [02:29:06] | PatrickDK: | cause my 1ghz p3 can just hardly play 480i content back |
| [02:29:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | PatrickDK: I do, and it was playing last year's 24 near perfectly, as long as the OSD wasn't on... |
| [02:30:03] | PatrickDK: | where did you get your 720p content from? |
| [02:30:08] | J-e-f-f-A: | PatrickDK: I think that system was just the 'perfect' combination that happened to work without a hitch... And this one is like the other 99% of the world... it doesn't cut the mustard... |
| [02:30:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | OTA HD... ATSC |
| [02:30:37] | PatrickDK: | maybe they upped the quality of their signal |
| [02:30:51] | PatrickDK: | they might of been broadcasting a 5mbit or 10mbit stream last year |
| [02:31:02] | PatrickDK: | and now are sending out a full 19.5mbit stream |
| [02:31:08] | PatrickDK: | and it takes more cpu to handle the larger stream |
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| [02:31:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | PatrickDK: Humm... I think I still have the HD recordings, I'll have to check them with mplayer and see what bitrate they're at... |
| [02:32:01] | iamlindoro_: | They turned on the --noPIII flag |
| [02:32:09] | iamlindoro_: | bastards got it through congress |
| [02:32:17] | PatrickDK: | what bitrate and what codec they used |
| [02:32:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | iamlindoro_: rotfl!!! ha! |
| [02:32:34] | PatrickDK: | iamlindoro, that better than the broadcast flag? :) |
| [02:32:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | PatrickDK: Well, I know it was MPEG2 last year... haven't checked what it is today... |
| [02:32:51] | J-e-f-f-A: | ..er this year with HD... |
| [02:33:03] | iamlindoro_: | PatrickDK: I suppose if I had to choose I'd take the noPIII flag |
| [02:33:36] | PatrickDK: | so are they really going vote on it this year? or delay it again :) |
| [02:33:51] | iamlindoro_: | It's tabled, there's no active bill right now |
| [02:34:06] | iamlindoro_: | there'd need to be new legislation altogether |
| [02:34:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | Actually... there is one difference with this system... I'm not running the resolution at 1280x1024 like I was on the other system... I'm running this at 800x600 atm... that could be the issue – it's having to work too hard to scale it down... |
| [02:34:49] | PatrickDK: | I am running my system at 1280x768 currently |
| [02:35:20] | PatrickDK: | I can play some hd streams, and can't play others |
| [02:35:24] | PatrickDK: | using a 2.8ghz cpu |
| [02:36:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | PatrickDK: My backend is an Athlon 64 x2 4600+ – I can play every HD stream I've thrown at it so far... ;-) |
| [02:36:22] | PatrickDK: | did you download the sample streams? |
| [02:37:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | PatrickDK: Actually, no I haven't done that yet... too busy getting my frontends back 'online' with 0.21 — i haven't been using them since I went with SVN about a year ago – switched back to 0.21 when it was released... |
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| [02:40:29] | PatrickDK: | I haven't used myth for about 2 years, since about a month ago |
| [02:40:37] | ** J-e-f-f-A will be back in a bit... gotta go pick my son up from work... ** | |
| [02:40:40] | PatrickDK: | my dvr's are almost dead, have to replace them |
| [02:47:11] | iamlindoro_: | Anyone see South Park this last week? |
| [02:48:55] | iamlindoro_: | My favorite part about that episode is the questions popping up all over the internet asking whether you can get high on having a cat piss in your face. I just imagine little retards at home trying it this weekend. Google "Is Cheesing Real" for good fun. |
| [02:49:11] | PatrickDK: | just downloaded some sampled from ota hd signals, I can play the 720p one just fine, and the 1080i, but I can't do the 480i at all |
| [02:49:44] | PatrickDK: | iamlindoro, how about those that didn't google? |
| [02:49:50] | PatrickDK: | but found out for themselfs? |
| [02:50:02] | iamlindoro_: | No sympathy! |
| [02:50:14] | iamlindoro_: | If I had to learn the hard way so should everyone else! |
| [02:50:17] | iamlindoro_: | erm.. |
| [02:50:18] | iamlindoro_: | I mean |
| [02:50:31] | iamlindoro_: | nothing |
| [02:51:03] | iamlindoro_: | It's totally Fon to Due |
| [02:51:50] | ** clever gets to work fixing everything after 3 dist-upgrades ** | |
| [02:51:58] | clever: | ivtv and lirc are broken! |
| [02:52:45] | clever: | i think ive fixed ivtv(even better then before) |
| [02:53:05] | iamlindoro_: | I fixed ivtv right off my system |
| [02:53:16] | iamlindoro_: | fixing is best when you end up with extra parts |
| [02:53:51] | clever: | ir blaster is dead |
| [02:55:07] | clever: | doesnt make sense as to why ir blasting isnt working |
| [02:55:59] | clever: | i recompiled lirc_serial with same configure as before |
| [02:56:03] | clever: | installed and probed it |
| [02:56:07] | clever: | reloaded lircd |
| [02:56:26] | PatrickDK: | are you sure lirc_serial is loaded in lsmod? |
| [02:56:51] | clever: | lirc_serial 14564 0 |
| [02:56:51] | clever: | lirc_dev 14564 2 lirc_serial,lirc_i2c |
| [02:56:57] | clever: | [ 1868.304171] lirc_serial: auto-detected active high receiver |
| [02:57:01] | PatrickDK: | just making sure :) |
| [02:57:02] | clever: | its loaded |
| [02:57:18] | PatrickDK: | I didn't properly setserial to turn off the serial port |
| [02:57:30] | PatrickDK: | and found that after you modprobe lirc_serial once, that is it, till you reboot |
| [02:57:44] | clever: | i made shure to copy&paste the lines from rc.local |
| [02:57:51] | clever: | which failed because lirc_serial was missing at boot |
| [02:58:25] | clever: | root@theP4:~# /usr/local/sbin/lircd -d /dev/lirc0 -o /dev/lircd2 |
| [02:58:27] | clever: | mythtv@theP4:~$ irsend -d /dev/lircd2 SEND_ONCE DCT2000 4;echo $? |
| [03:01:59] | clever: | and my ir receiver is dead |
| [03:02:02] | clever: | configure: error: *** it is not possible to install the specified driver on this system |
| [03:04:42] | clever: | finaly! |
| [03:04:52] | clever: | when i built ivtv i seem to have made a 2nd lirc_dev.ko |
| [03:05:01] | clever: | which conflicts with the lirc_serial.ko |
| [03:05:18] | clever: | manualy insmod'ing the 'proper' one got blasting fixed for now |
| [03:06:30] | clever: | that tweak to rc.local should force the 'proper' one from now on |
| [03:06:33] | clever: | insmod /lib/modules/2.6.22-14–386/misc/lirc_dev.ko |
| [03:06:33] | clever: | insmod /lib/modules/2.6.22-14–386/misc/lirc_serial.ko |
| [03:06:42] | clever: | now to just fix lirc receiving |
| [03:07:47] | clever: | the only lirc_i2c.ko i have is the binary that came with the distro, and will probly break with my 'custom' lirc_dev.ko |
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| [03:27:50] | clever: | root@theP4:~# insmod /root/lirc_i2c.ko |
| [03:27:50] | clever: | Segmentation fault |
| [03:27:52] | clever: | that aint good |
| [03:28:15] | clever: | [ 3725.783791] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 |
| [03:28:18] | clever: | [ 3725.792673] printing eip: |
| [03:28:21] | clever: | [ 3725.795504] c02de220 |
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| [04:09:08] | DustyBin: | would the bastard who turned out the lights on my google home page mind turning them back on again? |
| [04:10:14] | DustyBin: | a TFT uses the same amount of electricity if all the pixels are lit or unlit, pathetic |
| [04:10:51] | wagner: | not true |
| [04:11:20] | wagner: | nearly all TFT designed are either light or dark at no voltage |
| [04:11:31] | wagner: | so while you will still be running the backlight |
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| [04:11:51] | wagner: | there will be a slight decrease in power if youre running at the base contrast for your panel |
| [04:12:00] | DustyBin: | hm... |
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| [04:12:53] | wagner: | there are panels that are stable at both extremes, but those are usually special panels for low power applications |
| [04:12:54] | DustyBin: | now for some good news |
| [04:12:57] | DustyBin: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/ . . . /7314276.stm |
| [04:13:30] | emja: | anyone know where irexec (for the current user) starts from? I can't find it in /etc/ or in ~ |
| [04:13:53] | DustyBin: | emja: updatedb && locate irexec |
| [04:14:29] | wagner: | are you looking for the location of the binary? or of the location of the config file? |
| [04:14:59] | emja: | wagner: looking for what process/script/config/blah actiually starts it |
| [04:15:06] | emja: | not looking for the binary |
| [04:15:40] | wagner: | so thats completely dependant on the distribution youre using |
| [04:15:48] | emja: | the problem is that it doesn't seem to work correctly, unless I kill it and restart it manually |
| [04:16:08] | emja: | wagner: of course. sorry. ubuntu (mythbuntu, specifically) |
| [04:16:33] | wagner: | everytime ive used it, i just started the binary directly in my X startup scripts |
| [04:16:52] | wagner: | i dont even know if my distro came with a init script for it |
| [04:17:28] | emja: | hmm... well that's just it. I can't find where it is starting in the startup scripts. when I do, then I can diagnose the startup dependencies (which I suspect as my root problem here) |
| [04:17:57] | emja: | this is what I get when I elect to use a prepackaged and dumbed down myth distro |
| [04:17:58] | emja: | ;-) |
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| [04:19:23] | wagner: | well in mine (gentoo), its just /etc/init.d/irexec |
| [04:19:37] | wagner: | with an optional config file for the startup user in /etc/conf.d/irexec |
| [04:20:37] | emja: | understood. /etc/init.d/irexec would be for root, presumably |
| [04:21:13] | wagner: | the only other linux systems i have access to are suse machines at school, and dont have irexec installed.... |
| [04:21:25] | wagner: | and thats not for root, thats for anyone, started on boot |
| [04:21:32] | wagner: | the optional config files sets the user it is to run as |
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| [04:21:46] | emja: | the irexec process is owned by the non-priv user |
| [04:21:53] | emja: | oh. interesting |
| [04:22:32] | emja: | so the config file is likely the problem |
| [04:23:21] | wagner: | i always thought irexec had to have "DISPLAY" set to run effectively |
| [04:23:56] | emja: | I don't think so. It doesn't interact with X |
| [04:24:07] | wagner: | oh, its just a general keyboard press |
| [04:24:12] | ** emja nods ** | |
| [04:24:52] | wagner: | its been almost two years since ive messed with it |
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| [05:28:57] | purserj: | anyone experienced with mythui about? |
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| [06:29:24] | rooaus: | purserj: Dev or user question about mythui? |
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| [06:40:23] | purserj: | rooaus: dev |
| [06:40:40] | purserj: | I want to make some changes to the mythnews ui and I'm looking for some pointers |
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| [06:42:28] | rooaus: | purserj: Cool, gbee is the guy that is doing most of the mythui port, including widget development. He is in #mythtv but on uk time (+0 I think). |
| [06:43:11] | rooaus: | purserj: Does mythnews depend on mythbrowser? |
| [06:43:19] | purserj: | I don't think so |
| [06:43:42] | purserj: | it builds and works without mythbrowser as far as I can tell |
| [06:45:03] | rooaus: | ok, because I think mythbrowser is now disabled, since the qt4 port. |
| [06:45:36] | purserj: | hmm, right now I'm working with the release branch |
| [06:46:23] | purserj: | I'm going to wait until the qt4 stuff has settled down before porting it to the trunk |
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| [06:50:19] | rooaus: | purserj: no worries, yeah the native qt4 port and mythui port will cause some short term instability. But definitely worth it in the long run :) |
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| [06:51:01] | wagner: | is 0.22 basically going to be the qt4 port? or is it going to be a long cycle like 0.21? |
| [06:53:19] | rooaus: | wagner: The qt4 branch has been merged back to trunk... so the next release will use qt4. I have no idea what the release plan is for 0.22, but some devs have expressed a strong desire for it to be shorter than the 0.21 cycle. |
| [06:54:14] | purserj: | so long as it's as smooth a transition as 0.20 -> 0.21 it should be fine |
| [06:54:28] | VanessaE: | give the next version the ability to post-process (or better pre-process) the audio from MPEG2 pleeease |
| [06:54:40] | VanessaE: | (i.e. before handing it off to ffmpeg_) |
| [06:55:02] | wagner: | during... transcoding? |
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| [06:55:14] | VanessaE: | naw, I mean during the reception/recording stage |
| [06:55:29] | purserj: | on the fly encoding? |
| [06:55:30] | VanessaE: | give it the ability to filter out (conceal) errors in the audio stream |
| [06:55:47] | purserj: | that's going to increase the load on livetv |
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| [06:55:58] | wagner: | well if its receiving mpeg2, then it shouldnt be doing anything but storing to file |
| [06:56:10] | VanessaE: | well |
| [06:56:36] | VanessaE: | I'm talking about a play/no-play filter. If the packet has an error, insert a pre-defined silence packet into the stream being sent to ffmpeg. |
| [06:57:11] | VanessaE: | I ask for this because I'm using ATSC here, and with very low signal strength, audio turns to a cacophony of loud birds on top of what I should be hearing |
| [06:57:15] | VanessaE: | if you get my drift :) |
| [06:57:43] | wagner: | ah, so the macroblocking you can stand... but the high pitch squeels are too much |
| [06:57:47] | VanessaE: | precisely. |
| [06:57:56] | VanessaE: | I don't mind low-quality video since it's off an antenna |
| [06:58:08] | VanessaE: | but those sudden ear-piercing chips knock me out of my chair every time :) |
| [06:58:53] | VanessaE: | I'm under the assumption that, since the audio is compressed (AC3?), there is probably some rudimentary way to detect errors in the stream |
| [06:58:57] | VanessaE: | (checksums or so) |
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| [07:10:36] | purserj: | two quick questions, is there any developer documentation and is mythstream still being actively developed? |
| [07:11:56] | purserj: | never mind found answers to both |
| [07:12:03] | VanessaE: | that was easy :) |
| [07:15:12] | purserj: | heh |
| [07:15:49] | purserj: | now all I have to do is figure out how to do what I want to do |
| [07:16:26] | VanessaE: | oh and besides, the amount of CPU my box uses to record an HD stream, I don't think an extra 0.5% load to actively check the audio for errors would hurt too much :) |
| [07:18:11] | purserj: | specifically I'm looking for how to change the mythnews ui to indicate whether the individual entries have enclosures/youtube files and whether the associated files have actually been downloaded already |
| [07:20:43] | emja: | can anyone tell me the mysql database fieldname which holds the cast? |
| [07:21:21] | purserj: | cast? |
| [07:21:25] | purserj: | as in cast of a show? |
| [07:21:27] | emja: | cast of the film |
| [07:21:29] | emja: | yep |
| [07:21:43] | purserj: | not sure |
| [07:21:58] | purserj: | this for video or tv? |
| [07:22:02] | emja: | video |
| [07:22:22] | emja: | the data which is populated by the imdb.pl script for videos |
| [07:23:09] | emja: | the latest/later version of mythtv now queries and stores the cast list, however I want to update all my old videos |
| [07:23:35] | emja: | so I'm writing a script to do all my videos as a batch, and only updating the cast data |
| [07:23:56] | purserj: | looks like there are a couple of tables |
| [07:24:00] | purserj: | have a look at videocast |
| [07:24:16] | Anduin: | emja: The original ticket had such a script. |
| [07:24:39] | purserj: | and videometadatacast |
| [07:24:43] | emja: | purserj: thx, but I honestly have no idea how to look at the table contents, as you suggest |
| [07:25:01] | emja: | it'd likely be in videometadatacast, that much I'm sure of |
| [07:25:13] | emja: | err... videometadata |
| [07:25:56] | purserj: | from what I can work out |
| [07:26:18] | purserj: | cast members get an entry in videocast and then videometadatacast links the cast to videos |
| [07:26:41] | emja: | oh. bugger. cross-refed tables |
| [07:26:41] | Anduin: | That is correct |
| [07:27:00] | emja: | I was hoping for a single field with all the cast. but what you say makes more sense |
| [07:27:01] | Anduin: | emja: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3585 |
| [07:27:13] | emja: | Anduin: thx |
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| [07:34:59] | purserj: | hrmm |
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| [08:05:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | PatrickDK: Still on? I've almost got HD working on the P4 1.7.... ;-) |
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| [08:16:16] | ** lyricnz gets back from buying a new TV for his myth setup. Woop. ** | |
| [08:17:15] | ** VanessaE <3 MythTV ** | |
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| [08:22:08] | justinh: | heh. all the fuss & hype about mythui when in reality very little may actually change until themers get their respective fingers out |
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| [08:33:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | PatrickDK: Ooh... Playing 720p with a slight warble... ALMOST!!! ;-) |
| [08:34:38] | VanessaE: | the only problem I have with the UI aside from the window size not being dynamic, is that some widgets don't respond to the mouse. Otherwise I think its fine. |
| [08:36:03] | Dagmar: | That shouldn't come as a suprise in either case. |
| [08:36:13] | Dagmar: | If the UI size becomes variable, themes break |
| [08:38:09] | VanessaE: | it's not a worry, I understand the reason behind it. |
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| [09:31:40] | rooaus: | VanessaE: The mythui port should address the mouse/touch screen issues I believe. |
| [09:31:46] | ** lyricnz hopes for mac frontend to work better in fugure ... :) ** | |
| [09:31:51] | VanessaE: | oh ok |
| [09:32:25] | VanessaE: | just don't go changing the layout again, I'm still getting used to the last update :) |
| [09:35:27] | purserj: | okay does anyone know of any good doco on how myth ui works? Looking through the developer doco on mythtv.org isn't exactly being super helpful |
| [09:39:55] | rooaus: | purserj: The mythui libs aren't complete in 0.21-fixes IIRC, at present I believe the best reference is the code in trunk and in particular the screens/plugins that have already been converted. (Mythcontrols, the screen setting wizard, mythweather?) See the commits referenced on ticket #12. |
| [09:41:11] | purserj: | right |
| [09:41:40] | purserj: | okay I think I'll put that to one side at the moment and see how I can display a different menu depending on whether a site or article is "selected" |
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| [09:54:51] | justinh: | Dagmar: not so much that themes break – just that the UI engine doesn't scale images on the fly |
| [09:55:46] | justinh: | I've thought for a while that it'd be worth looking into what kind of impact doing that would have |
| [09:57:05] | VanessaE: | do what the gimp does with resize previews – when the window is resized, do a low-quality scale of the UI and fill in the details after the window size settles. |
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| [09:57:29] | justinh: | much easier said than done |
| [09:57:33] | VanessaE: | probably so |
| [09:57:36] | VanessaE: | just a suggestion |
| [09:57:40] | justinh: | no 'probably' about it |
| [09:58:05] | justinh: | besides, since the vast majority of developers only use myth in full screen I doubt anybody would be in any kind of hurry to look at it |
| [09:58:32] | justinh: | maybe when everything else has been fixed eh ;) |
| [09:58:51] | lyricnz: | heheh |
| [09:59:48] | justinh: | then again I'm pretty sure that most if not all other media apps don't prescale images. it's not even as if the ui has that many different layers |
| [10:00:20] | justinh: | I wouldn't mind seeing how fast the 'cover flow' demo of qt4 is,just for giggles |
| [10:02:19] | justinh: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwE_UIHSWnY&NR=1 &nda sh; mmm not bad |
| [10:05:09] | justinh: | thinking about it for a sec – with qt4 will it even really be necessary to have two different UI painters? |
| [10:05:21] | VanessaE: | night all :) |
| [10:05:45] | justinh: | I mean, since qt4 can do all the alpha blending & stuff missing from qt3 – which was part of the reason for the gl painter in the first place IIRC |
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| [10:07:16] | purserj: | oookay |
| [10:07:45] | purserj: | mplayer doesn't create a window when playing audio, which is why the focus is getting flipped around |
| [10:11:48] | justinh: | must.. resist... urge.. to vandalise a page ... |
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| [10:13:36] | purserj: | hmmm? |
| [10:14:10] | ** justinh mutters something about the 'bitch about mythtv here' wiki page ** | |
| [10:14:50] | purserj: | ah |
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| [10:26:09] | Dagmar: | Seems like most of it lately has become a "if you're too lazy to write a coherent bug report, whine here" page |
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| [10:28:09] | Dagmar: | The last whine on the page seems to be by a person too thick to realize Linux, itself, can already power down a box due to inactivity |
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| [10:33:40] | emja: | I have a webcam which mythphone uses. When mythphone is not running I want the cam to be used by camE (an automated webcam app). how do I get mythphone to shut camE down when mythpone starts, then start it again, when mythphone exits? |
| [10:34:14] | emja: | i wouldn't be surprised if this was not possible, short of digging into the mythphone code |
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| [11:43:08] | ** purserj waits ** | |
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| [11:44:16] | OznOg: | hi |
| [11:44:17] | purserj: | welcome |
| [11:44:20] | OznOg: | :) |
| [11:49:47] | purserj: | so what brings you here? |
| [11:50:21] | OznOg: | well I am trying to understand why I cannot get my tv work with mythtv |
| [11:50:35] | OznOg: | (I was reading the mailing list rigth now) |
| [11:50:57] | OznOg: | Actually, the channels are successfuly found with myth-setup |
| [11:51:13] | OznOg: | but black sceen and no signal when starting mythtv |
| [11:51:58] | clif4d_: | OznOg: does your TVcard work with other applications than mythtv? (eg xine, tvtime..) |
| [11:52:25] | OznOg: | its a DVB card, and it works fine with xien and mplayer (not tried tvtime) |
| [11:53:37] | clif4d_: | OznOg: okay, then I don't know, maybe a problem with XV extension on you xserver |
| [11:53:43] | justinh: | did you select the right kind of card in mythtv-setup? |
| [11:53:59] | justinh: | i.e. DVB tuner ? the default is wrong for DVB tuners and it won't autodetect it |
| [11:54:22] | OznOg: | yes I put dvb |
| [11:54:39] | OznOg: | and it seems to work as it finds channels when scanning |
| [11:54:47] | justinh: | right, so that's good |
| [11:55:14] | justinh: | does the directory where you set mythtv-setup to record shows to exist and is it writable by the user mythbackend runs as? |
| [11:55:23] | OznOg: | for xv extension, I was also wondering, but I do not know where to begin with |
| [11:55:37] | justinh: | what kind of VGA card do you have? |
| [11:55:47] | clif4d_: | OznOg: you could try playing a video with mplayer using -vo xv and see it that works, or maybe check xvinfo |
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| [11:55:48] | OznOg: | nvidia 6600 |
| [11:56:02] | OznOg: | clif4d_: I m gonna try |
| [11:56:08] | clif4d_: | OznOg: do you run any kind of dual head setup? |
| [11:56:13] | OznOg: | no |
| [11:56:13] | justinh: | did you install the binary nvidia driver? |
| [11:56:22] | OznOg: | yes nvidia drivers |
| [11:58:00] | OznOg: | mplayer with -vo xv works fine with dvb |
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| [11:58:49] | justinh: | time to look in the mythbackend log then |
| [11:58:50] | clif4d_: | OznOg: okay, then that's not the problem, shouldn't be when you just run a single xserver with one display |
| [11:58:57] | OznOg: | (FYI, mythtv says it a a 0% signal on every channels) |
| [12:00:57] | OznOg: | http://pastebin.ca/961993 |
| [12:01:06] | OznOg: | logs |
| [12:01:33] | justinh: | DVBChan(0) Warning: Your frequency setting (2147483647) is out of range. (min/max:51000000/858000000) |
| [12:01:54] | OznOg: | well I do not know where it gets this frequency |
| [12:02:20] | OznOg: | How can I dump the channels it recorded in db ? |
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| [12:03:01] | justinh: | stop mythbackend, go into mythtv-setup again & delete all the channels |
| [12:03:21] | clif4d_: | Running a dualhead setup (xinerama), I have a problem using mythfrontends submenu's (fx filter menu in mythvideo, or exiting mythmusic in 0.21) when mythfronend doesn't have mouse/keyboard focus. The main mythfrontend GUI works fine with lirc without mouse/keyboard focus. Anyway to fix this? |
| [12:03:46] | justinh: | though what I suspect is happening there is that the driver for your card is reporting it's tuned to an incorrect frequency |
| [12:06:44] | OznOg: | well I deleted all channels as you said, rescan and mythfilldatabase and the error is still here |
| [12:06:53] | justinh: | hmmm |
| [12:06:59] | justinh: | which version of mythtv are you running? |
| [12:07:33] | OznOg: | 0.20.2 |
| [12:07:39] | justinh: | are you scanning dvb-t, dvb-c or dvb-s ? |
| [12:07:46] | OznOg: | dvb-t |
| [12:08:19] | justinh: | what you might be able to do – after deleting all the channels again is a _tuned_ scan rather than a full scan |
| [12:08:54] | OznOg: | I used the channels.conf I used for all TV programs |
| [12:09:06] | justinh: | you imported a channels.conf file? |
| [12:09:11] | OznOg: | yes |
| [12:09:26] | justinh: | what was wrong with just using the built-in scanner? |
| [12:09:40] | OznOg: | does not work |
| [12:10:01] | justinh: | well, I can suggest a few things you can try |
| [12:10:03] | OznOg: | And as I already have the channels.conf... |
| [12:10:12] | justinh: | 1. upgrade to mythtv 0.21 & try scanning with that |
| [12:10:51] | justinh: | 2. stop trying to import the channels.conf file and try a tuned scan – you can borrow details for the initial multiplex (transponder) from your channels.conf file |
| [12:11:31] | justinh: | if scanning still does not work with 0.21, I recommend you report it as a bug |
| [12:11:31] | OznOg: | you think channels.conf may be a problem ? |
| [12:11:55] | justinh: | I think that mythtv might not support French DVB-T very well |
| [12:12:27] | OznOg: | I guess nobody support french very well :) |
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| [12:13:08] | justinh: | heh – well until people report problems they find, they can't be fixed ;) |
| [12:13:21] | OznOg: | justinh: do you think I may take the svn version ? |
| [12:13:50] | justinh: | I wouldn't recommend the svn trunk version to general users right now, no |
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| [12:14:00] | justinh: | try 0.21-fixes & see how you get on |
| [12:14:10] | OznOg: | ok |
| [12:14:22] | OznOg: | Well I am gonna try all this |
| [12:14:28] | OznOg: | thanx for help |
| [12:14:38] | OznOg: | C U |
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| [12:15:07] | justinh: | good luck! |
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| [12:15:57] | OznOg: | do you think I have any chance to make it work just with the frontend upto date ? |
| [12:16:10] | OznOg: | (not updating backend) |
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| [12:19:24] | OznOg: | well guess what ? |
| [12:19:39] | OznOg: | My distro updated to 0.21 |
| [12:19:51] | OznOg: | so just need to update :) |
| [12:19:56] | OznOg: | that's nice |
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| [12:26:09] | justinh: | OznOg: all versions of mythtv in a system have to be the same |
| [12:27:59] | OznOg: | ok |
| [12:28:58] | directhex: | oh lord @ black google. wasn't it shown a while back that blackle draws slightly more power than white google, due to tfts? |
| [12:30:24] | justinh: | lol |
| [12:30:33] | justinh: | wouldn't be surprised |
| [12:30:47] | ** purserj beats his head against mplayer ** | |
| [12:30:58] | justinh: | why didn't they just go the whole hog & rootkit a monitor power saver on there too? |
| [12:31:36] | justinh: | whee I got my insurance money. bugger it's too late to go to a bank though! |
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| [12:50:01] | purserj: | arrrgh |
| [12:51:00] | sebrock: | mmm music and video sections are removed from my MythWeb... even manually going to /music or /video in browser says module missing... but it's not... |
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| [12:53:32] | OznOg: | reu |
| [12:53:51] | OznOg: | I actully think I found when the bad frequency comes from |
| [12:54:32] | OznOg: | that was 2147483647Hz |
| [12:54:40] | OznOg: | which is in fact -1 |
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| [13:01:28] | xand: | how is 2.147483647GHz -1? |
| [13:01:42] | OznOg: | -1 un 32bit |
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| [13:02:21] | OznOg: | 2147483647 => 0x7FFFFFFF |
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| [13:04:42] | xand: | oh, signed |
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| [13:04:59] | purserj: | freckle I don't think I can fix this properly |
| [13:05:25] | purserj: | because it depends on the external player being selected |
| [13:05:45] | purserj: | I should stop rambling shouldn't I |
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| [13:11:20] | justinh: | purserj: nah rambling is good. I always ramble when I code |
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| [13:11:52] | laga: | me too |
| [13:12:11] | justinh: | thinking out loud helps a lot of people work stuff out :) |
| [13:12:41] | laga: | oh, i was thinking about cursing |
| [13:13:23] | purserj: | oh I do enough of that as well, but figured this was a "family friendly" channel |
| [13:13:41] | justinh: | sposed to be, but rarely is |
| [13:14:42] | justinh: | hrm why the hell isn't fftw3 being picked up by .configure? |
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| [13:15:27] | justinh: | and what on Earth is "Fribidi formatting" ? |
| [13:15:51] | Dagmar: | RTL language stuff |
| [13:15:59] | Dagmar: | "bidi" being short for bi-directional |
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| [13:16:10] | Dagmar: | ...and the fftw3 checks are a little nuts |
| [13:16:17] | justinh: | ahhh. stuff nobody in the civilised world needs then. cool |
| [13:16:37] | laga: | hah |
| [13:16:43] | laga: | what about the guys in isreal? :) |
| [13:16:48] | laga: | err, israel |
| [13:16:51] | justinh: | like I said ... |
| [13:17:11] | justinh: | go on! make ! |
| [13:17:21] | justinh: | to hell with 0.20-ghjdsgfdsjghj |
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| [13:17:36] | ** laga is quite impressed with dvd playing in 0.21 ** | |
| [13:18:04] | Dagmar: | laga: Send them more bullets and they'll solve their problems with them. |
| [13:18:44] | bug1: | ive been trying to get myth working for a few days, setup works in windows, mythtv finds channels when i do a scan, but it only gets a parial lock and wont display anything, w_scan doesnt find any channels |
| [13:19:09] | justinh: | ooo a card works in windows!!!!!!! amazing! |
| [13:19:17] | justinh: | how surprising |
| [13:19:42] | laga: | bug1: check the backend logs.. |
| [13:19:47] | bug1: | strangely enough it works under windows with windows software, not the software supplied my the card manufacturer |
| [13:20:05] | justinh: | what happens in windows is very much irrelevant here |
| [13:20:56] | justinh: | so what happens in other linux tv apps? |
| [13:22:25] | bug1: | well, i mentioned windows to discount the possiblity that its a reception problem or the card is just broken |
| [13:22:28] | ** directhex smells firmware issues ** | |
| [13:22:58] | bug1: | i havent tried any other dvb players in linux, any other one you would recomment ? |
| [13:23:05] | justinh: | kaffeine |
| [13:23:41] | bug1: | the card is a dvico dual express, i did have to compile a new driver and grab some firmware.... |
| [13:23:54] | bug1: | ill try kaffeine |
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| [13:26:43] | mzb_d800: | justinh: re insurance: sounds like a good excuse to buy a cheap mac mini online? ;)) |
| [13:26:52] | justinh: | I wish blootube-wide has been pulled from svn |
| [13:27:00] | justinh: | takes way too long to check out |
| [13:27:10] | justinh: | mzb_d800: bollocks to that. got a new car to pay off with it |
| [13:27:13] | bug1: | the backend log gives an error TVRec(1) Error: No valid DTV info, ATSC maj(0) min(0)... |
| [13:27:27] | bug1: | MPEG pn(-1) |
| [13:27:47] | mzb_d800: | oh well ... I guess 4 wheels is better than 2 cores ;) |
| [13:28:08] | laga: | justinh: yay, new car |
| [13:28:28] | justinh: | had the circumstances been better I'd agree |
| [13:28:40] | mzb_d800: | hmm |
| [13:28:48] | mzb_d800: | know the feeling |
| [13:28:56] | bug1: | and TVRec(1) Error: Failed to setup digital signal monitoring TVRec(1) Error: Failed to setup signal monitor |
| [13:29:16] | mzb_d800: | (except for the insurance replacement part :|) |
| [13:30:53] | laga: | justinh: oh :/ i hope nobody got hurt |
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| [13:33:09] | justinh: | laga: we had a break in last month. took my car keys (thus my car too) and my wife's handbag. we missed them by like 30 seconds. still, the woman who was stopped driving my old car on Wednesday has been charged with possession of stolen goods after refusing to give up the name of the person who 'gave' her the car |
| [13:33:41] | purserj: | I think I'm going to have to leave this until tomorrow, my brain is starting to dribble out my ears |
| [13:33:51] | justinh: | heh I miss that feeling sometimes |
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| [13:34:06] | justinh: | making it compile, then making it work, then making it not segfault :) |
| [13:34:41] | laga: | justinh: a few years ago, we had a break in when i was at home alone. i'd rather not repeat that experience :) |
| [13:35:17] | justinh: | I was awake while they were in the house too – having a pee as it happens. they set the alarm off just after I got back to bed |
| [13:35:33] | mzb_d800: | fluid stopped dribbling from mine years ago ... I hate to think what that means ;)) |
| [13:35:36] | mzb_d800: | gnite all |
| [13:35:40] | justinh: | gnight |
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| [13:38:28] | purserj: | if anyone want's to have look, here's the patch: http://jamespurser.com.au/sites/jamespurser.c . . . _patch.patch |
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| [13:40:27] | ** mzb_d800 catches a chunk of brain before it hits the floor and stuffs it back in before it realises freedom ** | |
| [13:40:56] | justinh: | warning – failed to find version.cpp ? wth?! |
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| [14:01:23] | Da1: | Hey guys, wondering if anyone can help me out with a query on the front/backend setup for what I want to use myth tv for |
| [14:02:46] | justinh: | just ask |
| [14:03:09] | Da1: | ok :)... |
| [14:03:34] | Da1: | i want to stream from an existing UPnP server which resides on an xubuntu machine |
| [14:04:01] | Da1: | so on my HTPC do I install mythtv front end and tell it to look for the UPnP as a backend? |
| [14:04:03] | justinh: | use djmount |
| [14:04:14] | Da1: | ? |
| [14:04:19] | justinh: | there's not yet a upnp client in mythfrontend |
| [14:04:42] | justinh: | http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dj . . . ch&meta= |
| [14:04:42] | bug1: | kaffiene doesnt find any channels either |
| [14:04:43] | anykey_: | When does mythshutdown --startup return 0? |
| [14:05:16] | bug1: | does myth use a channel hints file or does it work it out for itself, like w_scan ? |
| [14:07:34] | justinh: | bug1: if kaffeine doesn't find any channels, abandon hope of making mythtv work |
| [14:08:09] | ** justinh trouts Da1 for the /msg ** | |
| [14:08:34] | Da1: | sorry justin |
| [14:08:40] | Da1: | thought it was easier to ask you that way! |
| [14:08:48] | justinh: | bug1: if kaffeine doesn't work, I suggest you look into why your card isn't working in linux |
| [14:08:57] | OznOg: | justinh: welll it seems to work now |
| [14:09:05] | justinh: | OznOg: cool :) |
| [14:09:12] | bug1: | k |
| [14:09:32] | OznOg: | bug mythtv-setup crashes now when I give it a channels.conf |
| [14:09:53] | OznOg: | i think the trick was "no quick scn" |
| [14:10:03] | justinh: | OznOg: if it works without importing a channels.conf I wouldn't worry too much about it – but it'd be worth reporting it |
| [14:10:08] | Da1: | justinh: basically what i need to do is compare an open source media centre setup to an iMac with Apple TV. Thought MythTV would be good for this, to stream from another machine? I have used Elisa but it just wont work properly |
| [14:10:22] | Da1: | with djmount not having a GUI its not really a fair comparison to apple TV |
| [14:10:27] | Da1: | do you have any other suggestions? |
| [14:10:39] | justinh: | the developers would like mythtv to be able to scan channels by itself without relying on external tools anyway ;) |
| [14:14:57] | justinh: | fwiw, mythtv isn't best suited to use without tuners. it's usable but there are better apps for just dumb media playing |
| [14:15:26] | justinh: | try the linux port of XBMC |
| [14:15:31] | justinh: | less crashy than Elisa |
| [14:15:57] | justinh: | Elisa has been around for like 2 years now & _still_ isn't even 1% as stable as mythtv |
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| [14:17:56] | Da1: | i know |
| [14:18:00] | Da1: | its awful |
| [14:18:15] | Da1: | i tried freevo, but its just all crashy like elisa |
| [14:18:41] | justinh: | well, you could use djmount to make the unpnp stuff appear in directories mythfrontend can then go on to access |
| [14:19:18] | justinh: | or try XBMC for linux. it works with upnp servers directly without needing djmount as far as I know |
| [14:19:38] | justinh: | if you don't want TV features, mythtv is way OTT |
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| [14:22:10] | Da1: | thanks :) il give XBMC a go then! |
| [14:22:30] | Da1: | only reason i was thinking about going back to MythTV is because I am soooo low on time and I know MythTV is a much more stable app |
| [14:22:37] | Da1: | just didnt realise it didnt support upnp |
| [14:22:45] | Da1: | i have to have this thing streaming by monday you see |
| [14:22:50] | Da1: | and im quite the linux newbie |
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| [14:33:42] | Blaasvis: | hi, i would like to know what receiver is should buy for my logitech harmony 1000 to use with mythtv |
| [14:36:48] | Huijari: | oh damn, elisa looks good |
| [14:37:02] | Huijari: | but i guess it's unusable unstable then :( |
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| [14:39:28] | Da1: | its just littered with problems |
| [14:39:32] | Da1: | really crasy |
| [14:39:35] | Da1: | crashy* |
| [14:39:55] | Da1: | ive even been speaking with one of the developers and the problems i have been getting couldnt even be explained by him |
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| [14:40:16] | Da1: | gave him logs, temp files, terminal outputs, and nothing could be explained |
| [14:40:22] | Da1: | think it just needs more work |
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| [14:52:40] | justinh: | the problem with a lot of media apps is that people concentrated too much on the fancy UI first I think ;) |
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| [14:55:25] | Blaasvis: | frank_: jij daar ? |
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| [14:55:52] | justinh: | hmmm. no recordings til 7pm. tempting to do the make install steps now |
| [14:59:35] | justinh: | what's the worst that can happen? :P |
| [14:59:46] | anykey_: | it will blow up :p |
| [15:00:12] | Dagmar: | A meteor could land on your apartment. |
| [15:00:24] | Dagmar: | Your cat could bring you an ebola-infected squirrel. |
| [15:01:18] | jamesd: | you could spend the next 6 weeks trying to get it working as well as you remember and give up and install windows vista instead. |
| [15:01:33] | justinh: | yeah like _that_ would ever happen! |
| [15:01:45] | justinh: | separate frontend & backend – with vista? pah! |
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| [15:03:23] | justinh: | so er.. with multirec do you have to delete all capture cards & put them in again for multirec to work? |
| [15:03:59] | anykey_: | yes, I think so |
| [15:04:11] | justinh: | but not channels |
| [15:04:12] | justinh: | ? |
| [15:04:16] | anykey_: | exactly |
| [15:04:43] | laga: | i didnt have to re-add my cards |
| [15:04:44] | laga: | it just worked |
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| [15:07:32] | justinh: | sudo apt-get install libtag1-dev |
| [15:07:34] | justinh: | whoops |
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| [15:09:14] | OznOg: | do you know how I could change key binding ? |
| [15:10:28] | directhex: | with mythweb, most easily |
| [15:11:06] | OznOg: | I am gonna try, tanx |
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| [15:12:23] | justinh: | upgrading database schema... |
| [15:13:32] | rooaus: | OznOg: Mythcontrols is worth a look as well. |
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| [15:19:32] | justinh: | doh. think I might have to delete my tuner cards |
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| [15:20:18] | justinh: | though I have to wonder why |
| [15:22:19] | directhex: | because mythtv sucks. you should write a wiki page about it |
| [15:22:39] | justinh: | I think I know why |
| [15:22:52] | justinh: | well, kind of. not really a big deal :) |
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| [15:25:12] | boritek: | Hello i have just installed mythtv on ubuntu gutsy, and it says: no UPnP backends found |
| [15:25:59] | directhex: | boritek, you installed it how exactly? |
| [15:26:13] | boritek: | directhex, via Synaptic |
| [15:26:27] | directhex: | you installed which package exactly? |
| [15:27:07] | boritek: | i picked the mythtv package only but of course it pulled down a lot of other packages as well with the dependencies |
| [15:27:19] | boritek: | like mysql and so on |
| [15:27:28] | directhex: | and you configured mythtv, via system/administration, before trying to run the frontend? |
| [15:27:53] | boritek: | i set myself into the mythtv group |
| [15:28:15] | boritek: | and run the mythtv-setup |
| [15:29:49] | directhex: | and ran all the steps of mythtv setup, quit, and clicked yes when asked if you wanted to start the backend? |
| [15:29:55] | boritek: | if i click it further: another message: cannot login to database? |
| [15:30:27] | directhex: | then you have a database problem of some kind. 1) #ubuntu-mythtv, 2) use mythbuntu-control-center |
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| [15:33:45] | boritek: | ok i am installing the control-center. It hasnt been installed so far |
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| [15:42:46] | justinh: | hmm still only getting 3 recordings with 3 tuner cards |
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| [15:47:06] | janneg: | justinh: how many encoders are on the backend status page? |
| [15:47:31] | justinh: | six |
| [15:47:38] | justinh: | and that's the correct number |
| [15:48:05] | justinh: | ahh I think I've stumbled upon the bug I think I found before 0.21 was out |
| [15:48:34] | justinh: | very edge case, if it really is a bug |
| [15:48:54] | justinh: | yay got 6 simultaneous recordings going now. should be enough to be going on with :) |
| [15:49:48] | justinh: | just had a right panic on with mythweb – I moved the old mythweb dir out of the way but forgot about .htaccess |
| [15:50:47] | justinh: | oh WOW. love the mythvideo stuff in mythweb! |
| [15:50:52] | justinh: | love the new mythweb! |
| [15:55:49] | GlemSom: | justinh, Well, the mythvideo could have better IMDB imho... But the music part is awsome! Throwing an m3u file out to your favorit mp3 player.. And you can configure the playlist from mythweb,, That's really cool! :P |
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| [15:58:47] | rooaus: | night all |
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| [16:00:08] | boritek: | mythtv cannot connect to mysql. How can i set it up? Is there a default login and password for mysql? |
| [16:00:44] | jarle: | boritek: /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [16:01:26] | boritek: | jarle, yes but this is what the mythtv has already set up. But it still cant connect |
| [16:01:57] | boritek: | mythtv-setup* |
| [16:03:09] | directhex: | can you actually connect with "mysql -uUSERNAMEFROMTHATFILE -p" ? |
| [16:04:40] | boritek: | you mean like: mysql -u mythv -p ? |
| [16:04:42] | boritek: | no i cant |
| [16:06:23] | boritek: | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user |
| [16:07:39] | directhex: | sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow mythtv-database |
| [16:07:59] | justinh: | bah/ wtf happened to the output aspect ratio?! |
| [16:08:08] | justinh: | it's wrong! |
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| [16:11:00] | justinh: | is it just me or is the setting for TVVidModeForceAspect now well hidden away? |
| [16:12:45] | sentinel23: | how hard is it to add the home screen date & time to an old theme? |
| [16:13:04] | justinh: | dead easy. look at base.xml in a newer theme |
| [16:13:20] | sentinel23: | sweet |
| [16:13:32] | justinh: | arghh WTF is up with this? |
| [16:13:42] | sentinel23: | looking for that setting? |
| [16:13:47] | boritek: | directhex, so shall i use the mysql root admin for mythtv? |
| [16:14:07] | justinh: | running X at 720x576 at a 16:9 DPI yet myth still thinks my screen is 4:3 & letterboxes 16:9 video accordingly |
| [16:14:19] | justinh: | and no I don't want to override it so it stretches everything |
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| [16:14:40] | directhex: | boritek, what exactly leads on from what i typed to "use the mysql root admin for mythtv"? whcih doesn't even make sense |
| [16:15:25] | TelnetManta: | can someone tell me what sql query to use to update the chan numbers for all chans where the sourceid is 3? |
| [16:15:37] | boritek: | directhex, if i run that it asks for the admin username and password |
| [16:15:50] | boritek: | for mysql |
| [16:15:58] | sentinel23: | isn't that under recording profiles? |
| [16:15:58] | TelnetManta: | I know how to view these records but I dont know how to update them. I want to add a "20" to the beginning of each number. |
| [16:16:14] | justinh: | oh come on. where has the 'monitor aspect' setting gone?! |
| [16:16:15] | directhex: | boritek, what does it *exactly* say? read the question carefully. |
| [16:17:15] | boritek: | Unless you have explicitly changed this on the MySQL server, and │ |
| [16:17:15] | boritek: | │ understand MySQL's privilege system, use the default of 'root'. |
| [16:17:35] | boritek: | What is the name of the MySQL administrator account: |
| [16:17:56] | justinh: | yeah thanks a fucking bunch |
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| [16:18:25] | sentinel23: | @me? |
| [16:18:33] | sentinel23: | np |
| [16:18:45] | directhex: | boritek, so. have you explicitly changed anything on your mysql server? do you understand the mysql privilege system? |
| [16:19:00] | boritek: | no nothing |
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| [16:21:30] | exec87: | hi |
| [16:21:33] | directhex: | boritek, so... |
| [16:21:39] | sentinel23: | hi |
| [16:22:34] | exec87: | is there a german mythv channel :)? cuz i have a problem with the setup of my TvCArd and im not sure if i can translate the German GUI correctly |
| [16:22:38] | justinh: | #mythtv-de |
| [16:22:52] | exec87: | thx... tried with a dot ^^ |
| [16:23:19] | justinh: | well, I spose I'll have to watch every bloody 4:3 show in super stretch-o vision. |
| [16:23:42] | justinh: | thought 0.21 was meant to be an improvement |
| [16:23:43] | boritek: | directhex, excuse me, my bad. I should have left the admin password blank |
| [16:23:55] | boritek: | now it is running |
| [16:24:36] | directhex: | justinh, honestly, you're better than this |
| [16:24:45] | directhex: | Video Aspect Override |
| [16:24:53] | directhex: | page 2 of tv settings/playback |
| [16:29:48] | boritek: | directhex, now i could get further in mythtv-setup, but it always says that the backend is running |
| [16:30:00] | justinh: | sorted it, somewhat obtusely |
| [16:30:14] | directhex: | boritek, so kill the backend? |
| [16:30:14] | boritek: | altough it has said right at the beginning that it will shut it down |
| [16:30:32] | boritek: | and i also explicitly shutted it down |
| [16:30:40] | directhex: | ps -ef | grep backend |
| [16:30:47] | boritek: | like sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop |
| [16:30:54] | justinh: | now using the aspect forcing via 'use separate modes for gui & playback' |
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| [16:43:49] | boritek: | directhex, the channel scanner is gray in the setup |
| [16:44:31] | directhex: | boritek, it's a very long time since i used the channel scanner. what type of tv card did you set? |
| [16:44:54] | boritek: | Pinnacle PCTV Pro |
| [16:46:01] | boritek: | or Studio as it sees it |
| [16:48:33] | directhex: | that doesn't answer "type of card did you set". there's no tickbox for pinnacle cards |
| [16:50:43] | boritek: | when i clicked to add, it recognized the card as Pinnacle PCTV |
| [16:50:51] | boritek: | and i couldnt see the end |
| [16:50:57] | boritek: | but i think it was Studio |
| [16:51:05] | boritek: | Pinnacle PCTV Studio |
| [16:51:23] | exec87: | can anyone told me how to change the settings of the wether plugin? |
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| [16:52:40] | sentinel23: | i feel dumb; in "<area>40,500,400,50</area>" is that X,Y,W,H ; or distance from all four edges; or a box distance from 0,0; or something else? |
| [16:54:52] | sentinel23: | nvm figured it out : "x,y,far x,far y" |
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| [17:01:34] | sebrock: | video and music is not showing on my mythweb page. It did before... any clues? |
| [17:03:55] | sentinel23: | for music, make sure there's a simlink to your music directory in mythweb/data |
| [17:04:15] | sebrock: | there is... |
| [17:04:15] | sentinel23: | and do a scan of your music files to they're in the db |
| [17:04:21] | sebrock: | I dont understand this |
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| [17:05:54] | sentinel23: | i was just figureing this out myself, umm, on the frontend, go to Media Settings, Music Tools or something |
| [17:06:23] | sentinel23: | then Scan for New Music |
| [17:06:30] | sentinel23: | see anything like that? |
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| [17:07:16] | sentinel23: | basically make sure you can play music from MythTV itself |
| [17:07:27] | sebrock: | yeah, I think I figured it out |
| [17:07:38] | sebrock: | mythfrontend on my mac deleted all entries |
| [17:07:44] | sentinel23: | oh |
| [17:08:00] | sebrock: | I'll have to check this with my regular frontend aswerll |
| [17:08:25] | sentinel23: | i might be wrong, but i did that and i think that made it show up |
| [17:09:18] | sentinel23: | look here, maybe http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythweb# . . . _via_Mythweb |
| [17:09:38] | sentinel23: | dunno |
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| [17:16:48] | justinh: | hahaha the appearance setup gadget is broken |
| [17:16:52] | justinh: | bad code! |
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| [17:17:09] | justinh: | must be my wacky DPI screwing with it somehow |
| [17:23:07] | offset: | is there some work around for huge fonts on the osd? |
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| [17:23:23] | Dagmar: | Setting the DPI correctly generally works |
| [17:23:28] | justinh: | usually to install the correct fonts |
| [17:23:35] | Dagmar: | "correctly" in this case generally also means "wrong" |
| [17:23:57] | offset: | Dagmar: i have my dpi set properly |
| [17:24:13] | Dagmar: | You have it set to 100 DPI then? |
| [17:24:25] | offset: | my fonts look great on the osd if i play a video that is 720x480 |
| [17:24:32] | Dagmar: | <-- doesn't care. |
| [17:24:48] | offset: | but if i play a low quality recording 352x480, they are huge, but spaced properly |
| [17:25:06] | offset: | Dagmar: yeah its at 100 DPI |
| [17:25:07] | Dagmar: | Ah that's got to do with the OSD taking on the resolution of the recording |
| [17:25:35] | Dagmar: | It was _supposed_ to have been fixed in 0.21 according to Gbee but I don't think so or there's osmething else (like OpenGL OSD) that we're supposed to be enabling |
| [17:26:21] | offset: | If i switch to opengl everything looks great but I run into the bug of only being able to play a recording once before i just get a black screen |
| [17:26:56] | TelnetManta: | can someone tell me what sql query to use to update the chan numbers for all chans where the sourceid is 3? |
| [17:27:04] | TelnetManta: | I know how to view these records but I dont know how to update them. I want to add a "20" to the beginning of each number... |
| [17:27:47] | Dagmar: | offset: I had that same issue so I started back using 0.2x-fixes from SVN |
| [17:28:19] | Dagmar: | http://www.google.com/search?q=sql+primer |
| [17:28:29] | TelnetManta: | lol |
| [17:28:31] | TelnetManta: | tx |
| [17:28:52] | justinh: | update channel set channum = CONCAT (20, channum) where sourceid="3"; perhaps |
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| [17:31:26] | offset: | Dagmar: I'm using 0.21_p16812 |
| [17:31:43] | justinh: | tell you what though.. video playback profiles.. yeesh! |
| [17:35:13] | directhex: | justinh, the gui for them is mojnstrous, but the new renderers and deinterlacers are glorious |
| [17:36:10] | sphery: | justinh: Yeah. To really get the most out of playback profiles, you have to know way too much technical details of your hardware/Myth. But, Slim should work for most who want 0.20-style software playback and CPU-- for those who want 0.20-style XvMC playback. |
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| [17:37:20] | sphery: | offset: do your fonts looks something like: http://www.orrwhat.net/screen1.png |
| [17:37:31] | offset: | here are some screenshots of my font problem: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/zerodi . . . -352x480.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/zerodi . . . -720x480.jpg |
| [17:37:55] | justinh: | greedy is a nice deinterlacer |
| [17:38:13] | justinh: | seems like the odd tearing issue I had is now gone too |
| [17:38:27] | offset: | sphery: yeah it looks very similar |
| [17:38:30] | sphery: | offset: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/326414#326414 |
| [17:38:45] | sphery: | Yeah. Funny you posted the links to pics at the same time I asked. :) |
| [17:38:50] | sphery: | You have the same problem. |
| [17:39:44] | justinh: | oops! |
| [17:40:05] | sphery: | easiest fix is to edit osd.xml and comment out the <filename>Whatever.ttf</filename> lines |
| [17:41:00] | sphery: | (where "fix" actually means workaround) |
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| [17:45:01] | offset: | sphery: sorry, had to do something real quick |
| [17:45:11] | offset: | thanks for the tip, ill try it right now |
| [17:45:48] | VanessaE: | hmmm... mythtv can use an external player? |
| [17:46:09] | sphery: | VanessaE: Technically, no. Only MythVideo can. |
| [17:46:12] | VanessaE: | oh ok |
| [17:46:19] | VanessaE: | thought I saw something earlir |
| [17:46:22] | VanessaE: | earlier. |
| [17:46:23] | sphery: | But Freevo does... |
| [17:46:31] | VanessaE: | nevermind :) |
| [17:46:44] | ** VanessaE crawls back into her cave now ** | |
| [17:47:05] | sphery: | Yeah. I wouldn't want to go down the Freevo route, either. :) |
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| [17:54:19] | offset: | sphery: thanks a lot, it worked like a charm :) |
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| [18:19:29] | dominikg: | hi i have a problem, i installed mythtv and configured it... everything is fine but i cant watch tv |
| [18:19:40] | dominikg: | everytime i want want to start live TV |
| [18:19:47] | dominikg: | i just get a blackscreen |
| [18:20:01] | DustyBin: | dominikg: BEFORE you even think mythtv |
| [18:20:08] | DustyBin: | get your tv card working in linux |
| [18:20:26] | DustyBin: | get it up and running in kaffine |
| [18:20:55] | dominikg: | kaffine isn tv proramm, right? |
| [18:20:57] | DustyBin: | once its working in linux, THEN try mythtv |
| [18:21:23] | justinh: | the black screen problem is usually indicative that there's something wrong with how the backend is configured |
| [18:21:36] | justinh: | sometimes the wrong tuner card type has been selected in mythtv-setup |
| [18:21:40] | DustyBin: | dominikg: what came first, mythtv or the egg? |
| [18:21:55] | dominikg: | the egg? whats the egg? |
| [18:22:09] | justinh: | other times there are insufficient privileges for the user mythbackend runs as, to write to the recordings dir |
| [18:22:50] | ** DustyBin releases .21 versions of juski themes under my name ** | |
| [18:24:13] | justinh: | rofl. he who releases, SUPPORTS :P |
| [18:24:14] | DustyBin: | harry hills tv burp, jesus lord |
| [18:24:55] | DustyBin: | im sure tv wasnt this bad when i was younger |
| [18:25:10] | justinh: | you're kidding, right? |
| [18:25:38] | DustyBin: | no |
| [18:26:31] | DustyBin: | saturday night prime time entertainment: harry hills tv burp... |
| [18:26:39] | ** DustyBin goes ** | |
| [18:26:44] | justinh: | so? netx weekend it's frigging Dr Who |
| [18:27:08] | justinh: | Saturday night TV is the reason I used to go out so much |
| [18:27:24] | DustyBin: | it could be worse, it could be ant and dec |
| [18:27:32] | justinh: | ahh Ant or Dec |
| [18:27:44] | justinh: | could be worse than them even |
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| [18:27:57] | justinh: | could be Davina Macall or Holly Willoughby |
| [18:28:10] | justinh: | or Bruce Forsyth ! |
| [18:28:18] | DustyBin: | lol |
| [18:28:52] | DustyBin: | im not liking this black google at all |
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| [18:29:10] | justinh: | just face it. Prole TV is below you. live with it :) |
| [18:29:14] | DustyBin: | infact black google could be classed as being racist in the UK |
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| [18:29:37] | DustyBin: | im sure black google will have to go back to being white again soon |
| [18:29:37] | justinh: | eee you said black! racist! |
| [18:30:11] | justinh: | wonder what google are going to do to save power on Earth Day then... |
| [18:30:15] | TelnetManta: | anyone have tips for diagnosing a remote frontends issue switching chans while watching tv? |
| [18:30:28] | justinh: | look in the logs... |
| [18:30:34] | TelnetManta: | I can watch the chan that starts up first but if I try to change I get errors. |
| [18:30:35] | justinh: | in the backend log |
| [18:31:41] | keith4321: | how do I transition from LVM to using storage groups in .21? |
| [18:31:48] | DustyBin: | Fast Times at Ridgemont High <--- bloody good film |
| [18:31:58] | TelnetManta: | Error: Invalid file descriptor in 'safe_read()' |
| [18:32:06] | TelnetManta: | from backend |
| [18:32:27] | TelnetManta: | prebuffer errors in the frontend log |
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| [18:39:54] | GlemSom: | I've setup xine to use pass through by default – which works fine on most DVD's.. But I have a couble that does not work (probably not AC3 DVDs...). Is there a way to detect what the DVD is using? (for mpeg files i test with "file" – which is quite usefull) |
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| [19:14:03] | dominikg: | i started a vnc server on mytv but i can not connect |
| [19:14:16] | dominikg: | is there anything i have to configure? without setting vnc zu enable and to set a pw |
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| [19:19:03] | FinnTux: | dominikg, did you check what display number it is using? |
| [19:19:23] | FinnTux: | dominikg, and that you're using correct one when using |
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| [21:11:39] | sebrock: | is mythweb now recognizing all types of recordings as recordings, by that Im talking about watched Live-tv that is beeing listed under recorded programs, however. By just switching channels a few times this list gets massive. Before the update all that was listed was actual recorded material |
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| [21:15:48] | iamlindoro_: | sebrock: there's a pulldown at the top, just set it to the default group instead of LiveTV... Mythweb only defaults to LiveTV when you don't have anything recorded, and it tells you when it does |
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| [21:18:54] | simcop2387-tv: | is there any way in 0.21 to make the guide not scroll to the channel while you're typing in the channel number? (e.g. wait until you've stopped typing) |
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| [21:46:40] | piksi: | it has been a long time since i last used mythtv, and now upon installing i stumbled upon the classic problem but cannot seem to overcome it: "Connecting to backend server 192.168.1.100:6543" "connection timed out." |
| [21:47:05] | piksi: | i've set that lan ip for both front and backend, checked that mythtv-user can access mysql and ran the mythfrontend as mythtv-user |
| [21:47:08] | xand: | connection timed out implies firewall |
| [21:47:19] | xand: | if it was just not running, it wouldn't time out |
| [21:50:19] | piksi: | i shouldnt' have any up inside the lan but i'm re-checking |
| [21:57:37] | TelnetManta: | can anyone confirm that theres some parental controls in mythtv? |
| [21:57:54] | iamlindoro_: | yup |
| [21:58:40] | TelnetManta: | is it only in the newest version? |
| [21:58:50] | TelnetManta: | cause I dont see it in mine |
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| [21:59:03] | SLUG: | hello |
| [21:59:11] | iamlindoro_: | Nope, has been around for a while |
| [21:59:51] | Anduin: | TelnetManta: You can password protect groups, I think that is about the extent of it. |
| [22:00:04] | SLUG: | guys i am building a system from my p4 3.2 1gig of ram but not usur on tv card ? |
| [22:00:23] | lazarus_: | SLUG: that CPU eats a lot of power, sell it on ebay and use a core2duo |
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| [22:00:56] | SLUG: | yeah but if i do i will have to chage my mb also |
| [22:01:07] | DustyBin: | i bet you dont |
| [22:01:12] | DustyBin: | check your socket |
| [22:01:18] | SLUG: | 478 |
| [22:01:24] | DustyBin: | oh :-S |
| [22:01:32] | SLUG: | p4c800 deluxe mb |
| [22:01:37] | DustyBin: | ok |
| [22:01:45] | TelnetManta: | Anduin: I cant find it |
| [22:02:14] | Anduin: | SLUG: for a TV card, you mean capture? or output? |
| [22:02:49] | Anduin: | TelnetManta: hit m in Watch Recordings |
| [22:02:49] | SLUG: | well i have a ati 9800 pro videocard could i use that for out |
| [22:04:50] | SLUG: | Anduin: so for capture what do you guys recommend .. hd quality |
| [22:07:01] | TelnetManta: | got it |
| [22:07:03] | TelnetManta: | duh |
| [22:09:38] | VanessaE: | my kworld atsc120 works nicely, but the driver is experimental |
| [22:09:44] | justinh: | SLUG: only HD quality capture you can get right now is a digital tuner or from a digital cable box via firewire (and maybe at a push IPTV) |
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| [22:10:18] | SLUG: | ok |
| [22:10:35] | SLUG: | which card could i use that can do 256 qam |
| [22:11:42] | Anduin: | SLUG: the A180s are cheap, and can do that, many people like the HDHR (not a card) as well |
| [22:12:19] | SLUG: | ok |
| [22:12:41] | SLUG: | i can have multiple card on my system and they will allwork right |
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| [22:13:20] | Anduin: | Yes, though if they have different sources you occasionally need to worry about ordering them consistently |
| [22:13:21] | SLUG: | for instance, an fta card and a hauppauge 350 card and they will work |
| [22:13:29] | inteliwasp: | if i have a digital cable box, what do i need to set up to get full digital? |
| [22:14:05] | SLUG: | i like to be cable to send hd to my tv can i get it done with my ati 9800 pro ? |
| [22:14:09] | Anduin: | inteliwasp: there is no good answer, maybe firewire, but that will not get you all channels (or any, depends) |
| [22:15:36] | justinh: | mythvideo is really the only part of mythtv with parental controls right now |
| [22:16:09] | Anduin: | justinh: password protected groups sorta do that too |
| [22:16:20] | justinh: | yeah I forgot about those |
| [22:16:47] | Anduin: | SLUG: many use nvidia (why people are not eager to answer about ati) |
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| [22:17:08] | inteliwasp: | also, do you have a link to a tv card that does digital on sale now?? |
| [22:17:21] | SLUG: | ok which is good card to use from nvidia |
| [22:17:59] | VanessaE: | inteliwasp: start here: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| [22:18:11] | VanessaE: | you're probably interested in the "ATSC Devices" link on the right. |
| [22:18:32] | VanessaE: | (if you're talking about terrestrial digital TV in the USA) |
| [22:18:39] | Anduin: | SLUG: I'd try the mythtv-users mail list before giving up on your card, or a different time in this channel. |
| [22:18:45] | VanessaE: | otherwise, look at one of the DVB links. |
| [22:18:51] | SLUG: | ok |
| [22:19:29] | inteliwasp: | VanessaE, i'm hopeing for dvb-c |
| [22:19:34] | SLUG: | another Q i have the onboard audio 7.1 i think and a sb live 5.1 which should i go with |
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| [22:20:12] | justinh: | given the choice I always go for digital audio output. no need to worry about 'quality' issues then |
| [22:20:20] | VanessaE: | there's dvb-c stuff there too, inteliwasp |
| [22:20:20] | inteliwasp: | that i can drop in with little fuss and get it from newegg |
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| [22:20:56] | SLUG: | ok |
| [22:21:01] | SLUG: | thanks |
| [22:21:13] | sshirley: | Hi all |
| [22:22:20] | sshirley: | I am having a tough time deciding on a hdtv. is it possible to hook up my computer to my tv via a dvi-to-hmdi cable plus mini audio jack (from sounds card) to composite audio cables? |
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| [22:23:07] | Aval0n: | anyone know if it's possible to use a Y splitter on an SPDIF digital coax connector and have it output to 2 devices? |
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| [22:25:00] | sshirley: | anyone? anyone? :-) |
| [22:25:28] | mjj29: | I'd be surprised |
| [22:25:33] | xand: | sshirley: yes, but it's not "composite audio" |
| [22:25:42] | purserj: | nings all |
| [22:25:46] | mjj29: | Aval0n: ^^ |
| [22:25:50] | xand: | use dvi->hdmi and 3.5mm jack -> 2 x RCA |
| [22:25:58] | xand: | should work just fine |
| [22:25:59] | sshirley: | I am still uncertain about the terminology |
| [22:26:20] | xand: | the red and white audio sockets. |
| [22:26:31] | sshirley: | Ok, 3.5mm jack to RCA. The TV will know to join those together? |
| [22:26:38] | xand: | hopefully |
| [22:26:56] | xand: | on the samsung LCD TVs they label them as "DVI audio" |
| [22:26:59] | sshirley: | The TV I want to buy has 2 HDMI jacks and beside each there are 2 RCA jacks |
| [22:27:18] | nordle: | evening all. I cant seem to get deint to function where and when needed. http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Playback_profiles I've read. I have profile "TV" with yadif(*2) on both primary and secondary deint. This makes a GREAT livetv picture. But when I view the recordings they are horribly interlaced. If I enter "linearblend" in the custom filters, it works. The recordings look ok, but that screws the livetv, scrolling text looks crap ag |
| [22:27:27] | xand: | yes, that'll be what they're for... for connecting to a PC that outputs DVI and analog audio |
| [22:28:11] | sshirley: | That's what I am trying to avoid – the "hopefully" case :-) |
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| [22:28:38] | xand: | download hte manual for it |
| [22:28:40] | Aval0n: | I think you can split spdif |
| [22:28:45] | Aval0n: | I split fiber |
| [22:28:55] | xand: | sshirley: I'd say it was 90% likely ;) |
| [22:28:59] | justinh: | you can't split coaxial spdif |
| [22:29:05] | justinh: | it's terminated |
| [22:29:10] | Aval0n: | Justin__: oh? |
| [22:29:18] | Aval0n: | optical isn't? |
| [22:29:22] | justinh: | splitting it on a y connection will double-terminate it |
| [22:29:29] | justinh: | no optical isn't terminated |
| [22:29:36] | Aval0n: | hmmm |
| [22:29:37] | Aval0n: | ok |
| [22:29:43] | Aval0n: | bummer |
| [22:30:02] | Aval0n: | any way to convert analog to channel to spdif signal? |
| [22:30:06] | Aval0n: | :) |
| [22:30:07] | justinh: | same reason you can't send a video output to 2 devices' video inputs at the same time without a buffer amp |
| [22:30:27] | sshirley: | xand: awesome :_) |
| [22:30:29] | sshirley: | :-) |
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| [22:31:35] | Aval0n: | Justin__: you know if it's possible to convert analog 2 chan to an spid signal to be carried via hdmi? |
| [22:31:44] | Aval0n: | justinh: that question was for you. |
| [22:32:27] | justinh: | Aval0n: possible yes. cheap, no |
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| [22:33:51] | DustyBin: | Aval0n: try here http://www.keene.co.uk/ these people seem to have something what will do anything |
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| [22:34:13] | Aval0n: | ty |
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| [22:36:32] | Aval0n: | justinh: do you know if most motherboards have the capability to output the standard 2-chan analog output and optical at the same time? |
| [22:37:26] | justinh: | mine does |
| [22:37:31] | justinh: | every other I've ever had does |
| [22:37:33] | Aval0n: | ok excellent |
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| [22:37:38] | justinh: | even my SB Live value can |
| [22:37:50] | justinh: | sept it hasn't got optimical ;) |
| [22:38:11] | Aval0n: | \lo |
| [22:38:12] | Aval0n: | lol |
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| [22:39:01] | Aval0n: | anyone know if you set your xorg res to a res less than 1280x720, does it take cpu power to display it at a lower resolution? |
| [22:39:11] | Aval0n: | like if you are running 1024x768? |
| [22:39:17] | odz: | can someone help me? i am trying to compile mythtv but im getting qmake for Qt4 not found....i thought mythtv doesnt support qt4?? |
| [22:39:29] | Aval0n: | I'm sorry I didn't even give the input source |
| [22:39:46] | Aval0n: | If you are playing a 1080i/720p video running a res less than 1280x720 |
| [22:39:52] | Aval0n: | does it take cpu power to resize it |
| [22:40:19] | justinh: | usually |
| [22:41:34] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [22:42:20] | Aval0n: | is it still not possible to play a blu-ray disc with a blu-ray drive on a pc? |
| [22:42:29] | Aval0n: | you still have to rip it to view it? |
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| [22:43:23] | justinh: | apparently.. at least in linux |
| [22:43:35] | Aval0n: | hmm bummer |
| [22:44:11] | Aval0n: | I think it's possible in windows |
| [22:44:12] | justinh: | anyway I think most people prefer to play movies without being bothered by the whirring of optical drives |
| [22:44:45] | nordle: | ooo, managed to get round horrible interlace issue. Remembered that recordings are less that 720x576, so put in another rule. So Yadif*2 for livetv and linearblend for recordings, perfect :) |
| [22:45:12] | nordle: | Profiles are pretty sweet! |
| [22:45:39] | Aval0n: | I never hear it when it's running at slower speeds |
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| [22:53:22] | Aval0n: | guys I'm running ubuntu feisty and using the default kernel that came with it. 2.6.16-generic I belive... anyway.. I have a p4 HT will I be able to take advantage of the hyperthreading on that chip with the generic kernel? |
| [23:02:38] | nordle: | Aval0n: You'll need to poke around in /usr/src/linux/.config (assuming it exists, maybe /boot/config) and grep for CONFIG_SCHED_SMT |
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| [23:21:06] | robbins876__: | Anyone have a VIA EPIA M1000 board or something similar? |
| [23:21:25] | robbins876__: | i have mine hooked up to a 50" DLP, but the resolution isn't correct |
| [23:21:49] | robbins876__: | i don't know why i put the size |
| [23:22:04] | robbins876__: | 720p probably would have been more helpful |
| [23:22:07] | robbins876__: | through VGA |
| [23:24:15] | justinh: | robbins876__: you have my sympathy :) |
| [23:24:41] | justinh: | my epia M10k is in a cupboard waiting to go on Ebay |
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| [23:30:09] | justinh: | robbins876__: anyway, I should think the flea-pee-aye-ay would be more than capable of running at something by 720 |
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| [23:32:12] | justinh: | fwiw, my latest frontend cost about the same as an m10k but it's 1.83ghz core2duo-ness. proved to me what a waste of money the m10k was for life as a frontend |
| [23:34:35] | nordle: | to be fair, intel were nowhere until core2, amd were far better, but still drawing >90watts, so pre-2006 the via alternative seemed ok value when compared with the alternative of getting a pentium-m mainboard and cpu. But your right, when you can now run a 2.6GHZ PC that idles at 50watts, whats the point. |
| [23:35:14] | justinh: | 50W ? ouch! |
| [23:36:03] | justinh: | <3 C2D mobile :) |
| [23:36:37] | nordle: | I built a new PC using core2 8200 + 2GB RAM + 250GB SATA for the old man. I hooked it up to a electricity usage meter and this thing just sips 50 watts, thats nothing, my old AMD system would draw down 200watts easy. But it had a lot more stuff + giant GPU. |
| [23:37:13] | justinh: | yeah my backend could do with some C2D goodness. trouble is, finding a board with enough real pci slots |
| [23:37:27] | nordle: | pci? What for? |
| [23:37:38] | justinh: | tuner cards |
| [23:38:06] | xand: | recording dvb seems to use next to no CPU |
| [23:38:07] | justinh: | don't say pci-e – cos they're not gonna be working properly in linux this year |
| [23:38:24] | justinh: | xand: yeah but an athlon 2000XP pulls 5GW just sitting there doing FA |
| [23:38:41] | nordle: | how many do you have/need? I admit, I got 2 nova-t's, but they are about 6 years old now. There are dual tuner pci's out there. |
| [23:38:53] | nordle: | nova-t500 |
| [23:40:08] | justinh: | wobble, wobble |
| [23:40:26] | justinh: | oh.. it just fell over |
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| [23:40:40] | ** justinh inserts another single tuner pci card ** | |
| [23:40:53] | zippytech: | how's it going tonight? |
| [23:41:08] | nordle: | ahh, ok, I must admit I have no experiance with the 500 or any other dual tuners. |
| [23:41:09] | justinh: | anyway I only really need 3 pci slots, esp since multirec came about :D |
| [23:41:18] | bobc: | my backend keeps using 100–200% of the cpu (it's dual core) until I kill it and restart it. running .21-fixes compiled on ubuntu |
| [23:41:21] | nordle: | yay for multirec!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [23:41:31] | xand: | my c2d motherboard has 3 pci slots which is enough |
| [23:41:48] | xand: | gigabyte p35-ds3l |
| [23:42:34] | zippytech: | i am new to myth any idea why selecting the weather location take so long to scroll , it's been an hour and i have not made it past A |
| [23:42:37] | nordle: | I'm a stubborn git, still running my Creative Audigy too + 2 novat's (xand, nice board that!) |
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| [23:43:05] | justinh: | audigy is a waste of time, as are any other soundcards laden with DSP tech not used by linux |
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| [23:43:37] | xand: | I don't use that for my myth box... myth box has a nova-t and a nova-t 500 |
| [23:43:47] | xand: | and no other PCI cards |
| [23:44:02] | xand: | onboard audio is good enough for stereo output :P |
| [23:44:14] | bobc: | anyone else seeing their .21-fixes backend taking up 100% cpu? |
| [23:44:51] | justinh: | xand: good enough for 5.1 output too if you only use digital :) |
| [23:44:56] | nordle: | justinh: true, but I haven't yet found an onboard solution that sounds as good running through my 2 channel amp. |
| [23:45:29] | justinh: | nordle: have to admit the only good onboard sound I've ever heard is what I have in the current frontend |
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| [23:45:33] | sebrock: | anyone knows why my Mythweb is looking for videos on the path that is defined by my frontend? (my vidoes are actually stored on the backend server that also hosts mythweb) |
| [23:45:50] | justinh: | sebrock: .. because there's only one path for videos |
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| [23:45:59] | sebrock: | so its not looking in /www/mythweb/data/video as it is suppsed to |
| [23:46:12] | xand: | er, what do you mean? |
| [23:46:15] | sebrock: | this is a symlink to the video dir |
| [23:46:17] | justinh: | that should only be a symlink to /wherever/the/videos/really/are anyway |
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| [23:46:37] | sebrock: | that symlink works fine, but mythweb doesnt use it? |
| [23:46:45] | sebrock: | And I dont understand why |
| [23:47:04] | sebrock: | instead it uses a NFS mount from the frontend |
| [23:47:12] | xand: | maybe it's not configured to... where is it using? |
| [23:47:30] | sebrock: | so it tries to access ../data/video//mnt/200GB/Movies |
| [23:47:41] | sebrock: | which obviously doesnt exist |
| [23:48:25] | justinh: | the path for videos has to be the same on all systems ya know |
| [23:48:44] | justinh: | there can be only one mythvideo path(s) |
| [23:48:48] | blackest: | i think mythweb gets its paths from the db sometimes this doesnt make sense |
| [23:48:55] | justinh: | i.e. they have to be the same on all systems |
| [23:49:02] | xand: | er |
| [23:49:06] | sebrock: | mmm... |
| [23:49:17] | justinh: | blackest: everything comes out of the db |
| [23:49:31] | justinh: | it's just that mythvideo doesn't have per-frontend path settings |
| [23:49:41] | sebrock: | mmm... |
| [23:49:43] | purserj: | so you setup each frontend to use the same filepath |
| [23:50:08] | sebrock: | on my frontend I have mounted the video dir and then used that |
| [23:50:13] | purserj: | I have /mnt/myth as an nfs share on my backend and have setup my laptop frontend to access that share using the same path |
| [23:50:32] | sebrock: | ok... |
| [23:50:34] | blackest: | that sounds right |
| [23:50:53] | xand: | I thought the backend streamed to the frontends |
| [23:50:54] | sebrock: | does this apply to ALL paths? |
| [23:50:59] | xand: | or is that only live TV? |
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| [23:51:19] | sebrock: | same thing appears to be on the video_covers |
| [23:51:22] | purserj: | sebrock: AFAIK yes |
| [23:51:23] | xand: | (I just use mplayer to play recordings) |
| [23:51:42] | sebrock: | so basically the symlinks in mythweb/data is not used then? |
| [23:52:05] | purserj: | nope |
| [23:52:13] | purserj: | it uses the path as set in the db |
| [23:52:21] | sebrock: | then why are they there LOL |
| [23:52:30] | xand: | er |
| [23:52:46] | sebrock: | god, I've been scratching my head for hours now |
| [23:52:48] | xand: | it does use them |
| [23:52:54] | purserj: | does it? |
| [23:52:58] | xand: | because when I had one set incorrectly, it wouldn't work |
| [23:53:08] | sebrock: | yes thats true aswell |
| [23:53:09] | blackest: | what does it use them for ? |
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| [23:53:26] | sebrock: | but then again, it cant find my videos under that symlink anyhow |
| [23:53:38] | sebrock: | same goes for the covers... doesnt show up |
| [23:53:49] | sebrock: | and those symlinks are working just fine |
| [23:54:00] | xand: | blackest: it needs them to show content on the webpage? |
| [23:55:28] | xand: | for showing the thumbnails, and streaming |
| [23:55:58] | xand: | webserver needs to be able to access them; just knowing where they were wouldn't help if there wasn't a symlink to them from inside your www tree |
| [23:55:58] | sebrock: | xand: my symlinks works fine but when clicking on a movie in mythweb I get file not found and a path to a NFS mount on my frontend |
| [23:56:12] | xand: | er what |
| [23:56:19] | sebrock: | yep |
| [23:56:22] | xand: | when I click on a movie it offers to open over http |
| [23:56:40] | sebrock: | xand, how have you set it up then? |
| [23:57:09] | xand: | the symlinks point to the right places... and it works :) |
| [23:57:10] | sebrock: | you got backend/frontend on the same machine? |
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| [23:57:23] | xand: | well I have, but I rarely use the frontend on there |
| [23:57:32] | xand: | I tend to just access the files directly using mplayer c.c |
| [23:57:46] | xand: | I don't like mythfrontend much :| |
| [23:57:46] | sebrock: | I have separate, and its this separate NFS mount that will show in the path instead |
| [23:58:01] | xand: | but symlinks are correct? |
| [23:58:13] | sebrock: | yes they work fine using a terminal |
| [23:58:28] | xand: | though, that shouldn't matter, as you shouldn't see where they point to over the web |
| [23:58:51] | sebrock: | right, so guess how I find this strange |
| [23:59:31] | sebrock: | my error.log from apache says its looking for this "mnt/200GB/Movies" under the mythweb path |
| [23:59:34] | robbins876__: | Anyone know why the mythvideo algorithm for determining what videos are a set or should "play after" was changed? |
| [23:59:34] | sebrock: | and thats crazy |
| [23:59:41] | robbins876__: | it's such a pain in the ass now to set it all up |
| [23:59:47] | robbins876__: | in .20 it worked flawlessly |
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