Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, March 22nd, 2008, 00:02 UTC

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DustyBin:

to the guy with the gentoo compile problem:

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DustyBin:

23:49 <@znx> DustyBin: Unknown option "--enable-libfaad".

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DustyBin:

23:51 <@znx> DustyBin: do USE=-aac emerge ...

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A-:

hmm wonder how well this would work as a front end: http://www.myka.tv/techspec.html

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DustyBin:

i wouldnt mind enlarging my frontend at some point

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directhex:

still buildin' qt3

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directhex:

A-, terribly

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hnitsuj:

I do not

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hnitsuj:

fucking

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hnitsuj:

believe it!

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directhex:

A-, without specific driver support for the output devices (which is highly unlikely), then it's the 450mhz mips chip doing the work

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directhex:

hnitsuj, ?

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hnitsuj:

heard a massive bang, thought oh bit early in the year for fireworks. looked out of the window.. car on fire out the back

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hnitsuj:

guess whose car

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anenigma_:

yours?

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iamlindoro_:

NO WAY

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iamlindoro_:

Ugh, the UK *must* have a lemon law, right?

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hnitsuj:

almost one month since it was stolen & it turns up

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hnitsuj:

oh god not the new one!

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hnitsuj:

the stolen one

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directhex:

hnitsuj, hang on, your OLD one's come BACK?

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GreyFoxx:

WHAT? Someone returned your car and set it on fire?

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anenigma:

what the?

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directhex:

it's burning out?

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directhex:

O_o

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iamlindoro_:

H

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GreyFoxx:

holy shit

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directhex:

what the buggeryfuck?

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hnitsuj:

they took it to a plot where new houses are gonna be built, out back

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hnitsuj:

popular place for cars' last resting places

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hnitsuj:

and tonight, it's the Leon's turn

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hnitsuj:

that's creepy as fuck

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iamlindoro_:

Probably wasn't ever very far away

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directhex:

contacted the pigs?

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GreyFoxx:

how far fronm your house? Like accross the street close ?

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iamlindoro_:

directhex: Hey now

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hnitsuj:

least I'm assuming it's my car. same colour seat leon, X reg

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hnitsuj:

GreyFoxx: like about 100 yds away

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GreyFoxx:

wow

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hnitsuj:

well, guaranteed the insurance money now

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hnitsuj:

not gonna turn up found illegally parked anywhere & have to be repaired

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directhex:

is anyone dousing the flames?

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hnitsuj:

fire brigade have put it out

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hnitsuj:

I just got back home

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directhex:

i mean, i know it's grim oop norf, but presumably you eventually put out burning wrecks, right?

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hnitsuj:

police will be coming eventually no doubt. not staying up for em

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Zappacky:

alrighty, so if I do cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp, I hear the tv playing

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Zappacky:

but mythtv refuses to pick it up

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directhex:

Zappacky, framegrabbers suck. check which device it's using for line-in input on the lamegrabber

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hnitsuj:

directhex: yeah fire brigade were already there when I scooted around. had to get dressed

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DustyBin:

hnitsuj: your not from moss side are you :-o

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Zappacky:

directhex: /dev/dsp =/

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directhex:

Zappacky, /dev/dsp is output only

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directhex:

Zappacky, if /dev/dsp is working for input for you, you have *major* issues

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DustyBin:

s/moss/chav

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hnitsuj:

DustyBin: moss side is tame compared to some areas (not mine) – it just had all the press

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Zappacky:

directhex: since when? cat /dev/dsp yields audio data

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Zappacky:

directhex: has been that way on every system I've ever used

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iamlindoro_:

directhex: Try to bear in mind that some of us were/are technically still said farm animal :)

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hnitsuj:

DustyBin: and moss side's bad press was a very long time ago. it's still bad but there are far worse places. ordsall, e.g.

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DustyBin:

eek

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DustyBin:

liam gallagher territory

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hnitsuj:

took a wrong turn in oldham once. woah

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hnitsuj:

ghetto!

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DustyBin:

sod that

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DustyBin:

there are many bad places in london

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DustyBin:

peckham and brixton spring to mind

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hnitsuj:

you ain't a resident til you have the whole front of the outside of your house strewn with litter

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hnitsuj:

and sofa

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hnitsuj:

s

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DustyBin:

lol

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hnitsuj:

and burnt-out cars

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DustyBin:

"its grim up north"

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hnitsuj:

seriously, I had to do a 3-point turn in this cul-de-sac.. people came out to have a look

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hnitsuj:

only time my Leon's wheels ever produced smoke

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DustyBin:

lol

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hnitsuj:

well, till tonight :P

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Zappacky:

directhex: Also, I've got a ATI TV wonder usb, if there's any interest in getting that supported i'd much rather use it.

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hnitsuj:

so, mister insurance assessor.. is that worth repairing? hmm let's see... new interior, new chassis, new wheels...

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directhex:

Zappacky, as soon as ati stop using their own undocumented chips, sure

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hnitsuj:

ahh ATI TV wonder... they missed out the 'why it doesn't work' part from the label

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Zappacky:

directhex: that's not going to retroactively make mine work, now is it?

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Zappacky:

and it works fine in winblows

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hnitsuj:

they might've used somebody else's chips.. ya never know!

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Zappacky:

but I'm in #mythtv-users for a reason

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hnitsuj:

Zappacky: ya for them then. my ati aiw card worked in windows for all of about 20 minutes

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Zappacky:

anyways

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Zappacky:

any reason mythtv isn't picking up the (rather crappy) sound?

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hnitsuj:

Zappacky: you've not set the linux mixer to record from whatever input the tv tuner audio is connected to?

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directhex:

inout is probably muted. that's the usual cause of grif with ye olde loopbacke devicese

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hnitsuj:

that, or the actual tuner audio is muted still.. v4lctl can fix that

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Zappacky:

hnitsuj: if i cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp, i can hear the tv

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Zappacky:

so yes, it's recording

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hnitsuj:

dunno then

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Zappacky:

arecord | aplay yields the same result

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hnitsuj:

as long as mythtv is set to use the right device it should be alright

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directhex:

arecord | aplay? you're using alsa?

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hnitsuj:

hmm it's not April 1st yet and... http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9898065-1.html

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Zappacky:

directhex: yes

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Thomas-:

talking about april 1st http://www.solomobi.com/viewproduct.asp?pro_id=1429&page=1 ... 38400mAh battery :))))

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Thomas-:

32800mAh*

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Zappacky:

special instructions?

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directhex:

so try setting alsa devices instead of relying on oss compat

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Thomas-:

STANDBY TIME: 666 days

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hnitsuj:

Thomas-: the flux capacitor! at last!!!!

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hnitsuj:

hmmm I need a drink or ten

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Zappacky:

directhex: how do I do that inside mythtv-setup? the only devices it lists is /dev/dsp

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Zappacky:

I don't know the syntax for alsa devices

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hnitsuj:

/dev/adsp ?

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hnitsuj:

just poking in the dark of course. only set up a lamegrabber once & had to wash myself for weeks afterwards

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Anduin:

Has ALSA input actually been fixed?

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Thomas-:

hnitsuj: :p

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hnitsuj:

Anduin: I wasn't aware it didn't work ;)

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hnitsuj:

reminds me I must put my pvr cards on ebay

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Anduin:

hnitsuj: ALSA input has been one of the often complained about but never implemented things, I don't remember if it has actually been fixed (though many have said they would)

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DustyBin:

Anduin: i have alsa working with my audiophile 2496 via digital no problems at all

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hnitsuj:

well, if OSS emulation works...

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hnitsuj:

DustyBin: not alsa input I'll bet

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DustyBin:

erm let me check

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hnitsuj:

DustyBin: Q: do you use a soundcard for recording audio into mythtv? no? then no :)

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DustyBin:

ALSA:default

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a1fa:

hello

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DustyBin:

Passthrough: default

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hnitsuj:

DustyBin: that's _out_ ut

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DustyBin:

and thats about it

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nordle:

Anyone want any late night fried chips?

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a1fa:

does anybody know if there is a way to scale 1024x768 in 800x600 window with xorg?

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DustyBin:

mmm chips

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** hnitsuj goes to get Jack **

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Zappacky:

hnitsuj: no salt on /dev/adsp

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Zappacky:

same result as always

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nordle:

Getting ready to update myth, setting the system, new kernel, libs, apps etc, compiling kernel and CPU hit 77C for 5 minutes!

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nordle:

Apart from a funny smell it seems ok though.

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Anduin:

Zappacky: There is a section in the main mythtv.org docs on looped inputs, it may have more info.

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a1fa:

damn xorg

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Zappacky:

mythfrontend is getting flooded with 2008-03–21 20:45:50.719 WriteAudio: buffer underrun

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Zappacky:

ah

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Zappacky:

got it

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Zappacky:

yay

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a1fa:

dod

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tim1:

Hi is this possible yet, http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=68

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Aval0n:

!seen |torg|

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MythLogBot:

|torg| was last seen 3 hours 24 minutes 18 seconds ago

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Aval0n:

anyone in here have a TV with automotion plus?

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hnitsuj:

so erm.. apart from marketing BS, wth is that?

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Aval0n:

well

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Aval0n:

aparently

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Aval0n:

it's 120hz

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Aval0n:

double frams

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Aval0n:

fames

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Aval0n:

omg I'm so tired can't type sorry

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Aval0n:

frames*

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Aval0n:

makes things look very fluent

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Aval0n:

torg told me that he made his TV do 120hz

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Aval0n:

was wondering if it looked the same.

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directhex:

alsa doesn't directly use anything exposed via /dev

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directhex:

indrectly it uses nodes in /dev/snd

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jonathan_poon:

hey guys...

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jonathan_poon:

I'm trying to setup a server that can record video from a DV device and stream it to other people...

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jonathan_poon:

what is the best way to do that?

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xri1_:

probably vlc

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jonathan_poon:

okay!

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directhex:

certainly not myth. myth is not for dv streaming

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Zappacky:

wow. 878 based audio tuning sucks a LOT

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Zappacky:

it's so noisy and disgusting

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iamlindoro_:

To say nothing of the framegrabber's other many many many shortcomings

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directhex:

still building qt, would you believe

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directhex:

iamlindoro_, is it me, or are 16-bit jrpg protagonists the same guy? i sweat terranigma, chrono trigger, secret of mana, and illusion of gaia all star the same kid

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iamlindoro_:

directhex: You mean Kid with only single mother whose small village is destroyed in a catasrophe early on resulting in him falling in with band of thieves/forest people/sky pirates and learning there is a prophecy that stars him? Nope, I think it's just you.

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directhex:

that or there's only one hairdresser in all of squaresoftland, and they died when $protagonist was five

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iamlindoro_:

directhex: That said, every streetcorner apparently has a hairgel store, of which $protagonist is the primary client

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directhex:

i hope to see pioneering new features in the next generation of rpgs

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directhex:

like the enormous feet of kingon hearts or eternal sonata

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directhex:

kingdom

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iamlindoro_:

Mmmm, Klingon hearts

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directhex:

there's really using the polygons. you could never do wnormous feet with sprites

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directhex:

dear qt, hurry the fuck up. love directhex

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iamlindoro_:

If it makes you feel any better I've spent the better part of the afternoon using a bucket to bail the FAIL out of this Hardy Beta install on my test box

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asathoor:

hi

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directhex:

zomg! zomg! qt is built! it's checking myth out now!

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asathoor:

I use ubuntu and have mythweb. What should I do in order to watch an asx-stream?

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directhex:

asathoor, an asx is a text file containing a url to a video file

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iamlindoro_:

asathoor: Open it with $anymediaplayer?

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directhex:

asathoor, ensure your mythweb has valid links in its data folder

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asathoor:

directhex >>ok – perhaps it's a permission problem then?

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directhex:

asathoor, what does http://machineip/data/recordings/ show?

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asathoor:

directhex >> problem solved! I just had to download the file...

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asathoor:

and 2xClick...

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asathoor:

thanx

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** iamlindoro_ wonders/hopes asathoor is hanging his/her head in shame **

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directhex:

note to self: in order to use file, "open" it

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iamlindoro_:

* See initial advice

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asathoor:

i am ... 8-)

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iamlindoro_:

directhex: I think I'm finally going to play through some Sam n Max tonight

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directhex:

about bloody time

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mcquaid:

where are frontend settings stored? for ex, the directories specified for mythvideo etc

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iamlindoro_:

bah! I can't be bothered if it wasn't created in the golden age

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iamlindoro_:

mcquaid: in the database

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mcquaid:

ah i thought those were per frontend

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directhex:

they are

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iamlindoro_:

they are, in the DB

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directhex:

that doesn't mean it's not stored in the database

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mcquaid:

ok thx

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directhex:

also, the directory for mythvideo is *not* per-frontend

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directhex:

it's global

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directhex:

which means every FE needs to have videos mounmted in an identical location

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mcquaid:

hmm, i have different settings on one front end

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mcquaid:

because on one box which has the front and backend. i have numerous video dirs specified, some via smbfs

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mcquaid:

on another frontend those same dirs are now local, and it has some video dirs that are back on the main myth box mounted via smbfs

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directhex:

build build build

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dasunt:

Hmmmm.

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dasunt:

I'm trying to set up a mythtv box, got a PVR-150 knockoff out of a sony vaio.

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dasunt:

I can (as my own user) cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/video.mpg and get video.

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dasunt:

But mythtv comes up witha blank screen when I want to watch tv.

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dasunt:

This is a mythtv problem right? Since video is working otherwise?

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hnitsuj:

1. make sure the device in mythtv-setup is set to 'mpeg encoder'

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hnitsuj:

2. make sure the user mythbackend runs as has privileges to use the device

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dasunt:

Danke.

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hnitsuj:

3. make sure that wherever you set mythtv to record to exists and that the user mythbackend runs as has write privileges there

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hnitsuj:

if in doubt, check the backend log

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dasunt:

*nods

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dasunt:

Er, nods.

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hnitsuj:

usually /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log

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dasunt:

Thanks.

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dasunt:

BRB.

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bajjisw:

howdy

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directhex:

mythfrontend.exe built!

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Kazan:

windows!

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Kazan:

eww! :P

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th__:

directhex, with full libraries?

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directhex:

th__, that remains to be seen

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th__:

hehe

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th__:

if it works it's totally awesome

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directhex:

mythcommflag is currently building

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th__:

I want one for my company laptop and there I can't run linux however much I wanted it ;)

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directhex:

done. mythtvosd...

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th__:

directhex, are you going to put that up for download if/when you make it work?

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th__:

if you want a site I can host it for you

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directhex:

th__, no

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** PatrickDK is very scared **

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directhex:

th__, if it was ready for primetime, it'd be on mythtv.org

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th__:

well yeah

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th__:

but for those who want to experiment ;)

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directhex:

mythbackend.exe

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directhex:

mythfilldatabase.exe

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directhex:

hm, it's bailed out again

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dasunt:

Woot.

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dasunt:

hnitsuj: It wasn't set to mpeg2, thanks.

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** hnitsuj watches some turntablism videos to celebrate :) **

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dasunt:

One other question — if I don't want to use mythtv as a tuner, I don't need a tuner card, do I?

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dasunt:

There's a headless core2 laptop at work that has a built in DVD drive and runs awfully quiet...

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PatrickDK:

heh, a tunerles mythtv, how strange

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PatrickDK:

guess you only want to use the mythvideo and mythdvd plugins

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hnitsuj:

you can of course just have a mythtv front end which is just a client that can talk to a remote backend, or have a full myth system with no tuners

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directhex:

epic fail :'(

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directhex:

i'll try again tomorrow

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Turno:

anyone have any suggestions why xvmc isn't working for me with an nvidia 6200 and most recent closed source drivers?

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Turno:

any diagnostic tools i can check with?

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Turno:

any special version of the nvidia drivers?

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Turno:

the wiki says 8756, but it won't install on modern kernels, it would seem

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Turno:

it can't 'identify' the versioni

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dasunt:

hnitsuj: Yah, I was thinking of mythdvd + mythvideo

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iamlindoro_:

Turno: 8756 is ancient, pre the new drivers, that's a legacy driver number

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iamlindoro_:

169.12 is the current IIRC

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dasunt:

Oh, and mythmusic.

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Turno:

right, its from 2006

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Turno:

i started with the most recent version that ubuntu packages, no xvmc... also tried 9634... no xvmc

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PatrickDK:

I personally completely gave up on the nvidia drivers

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Turno:

do the open source drivers support xvmc yet?

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directhex:

xvmc is a last resort

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directhex:

they probably never will

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Turno:

i have an athlon xp 1700 ;)

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Turno:

xvmc is a necessity

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PatrickDK:

I run on a 1.8ghz without xvmc

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iamlindoro_:

Turno: xvmc doesn't just automatically happen, there are manual steps (like editing the XvMCConfig file)

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Turno:

or upgrade my motheboard

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Turno:

iamlindoro, thank you, i will look into that

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iamlindoro_:

needs to point at the nvidia XvMC lib .so.... pretty sure the instructions in the wiki tell you about that

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leprasmurf:

hey all, can someone take a look at this log entry and give me their interpretation? (iamlindoro_: don't know if you remember the issue I had earlier, but I couldn't do anything more due to a blackout)

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leprasmurf:

http://www.pastebin.ca/952368 <- log entry when trying to switch composite input

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leprasmurf:

basically, with iamlindoro's advice, I setup the composite to use no listing grabber, and setup a specific channel to use that input. when I try to switch to that channel, it tries to go there, then drops back to the originating channel

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cesman:

leprasmurf: I'd say going into the tuner settings in mythtv-setup and ensure your tuner is setup correctly

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cesman:

it switching from NTSC to ASTC looks odd

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cesman:

good luck

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leprasmurf:

cesman: good point, I don't think I set it anywhere to use ASTC, ty

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Turno:

iamlindoro: you solved it for me, thank you

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leprasmurf:

cesman: I can't find anywhere in the backend that is trying to set the standard to atsc.

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leprasmurf:

I'm wondering if this is an IVTV issue, during my testing I tried to switch inputs from tuner to composite with 'v4l2-ctl -i2' and I had to stop and restart vlc's display of /dev/video0

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hnitsuj:

leprasmurf: ahh stuff in the ivtv driver has changed

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hnitsuj:

leprasmurf: you using mythtv 0.20.x by any chance?

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hnitsuj:

a workaround had to be put into myth for it to be able to cope with the change. what happens now that didn't previously is that the card stops the stream when inputs are changed

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leprasmurf:

hnitsuj: sorry, yes. I'm in knoppmyth and the .21 sources are integrated into the new version, but the new version is still in beta

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leprasmurf:

hnitsuj: that workaround, is it in .21, or is it a patch for .20+ or something?

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hnitsuj:

it's in 0.21 as far as I know

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leprasmurf:

hnitsuj: cool, guess I'll just put this on hold until the upgrade is available

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hnitsuj:

can't remember if it was submitted before or after the -fixes branch was created, nor whether it was committed to -fixes

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hnitsuj:

probably would've been though

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hnitsuj:

IF that is the problem

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hnitsuj:

anyways, time for me to go to bed. g'night all

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leprasmurf:

g'night hnitsuj

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cesman:

leprasmurf: The next release of KnoppMyth w/ 0.21 has no issues w/ IVTV

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cesman:

of course, I did more to it than add 0.21

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leprasmurf:

cesman: yeah, I've been trying to keep up with tester's threads, afraid I've been a little busy though:-(

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leprasmurf:

last I tested was with the issue on /dev/hd? to /dev/sd? conversions

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cesman:

leprasmurf: please discuss KnoppMyth related items in #knoppmyth

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leprasmurf:

cesman: yeah, sorry, my mistake

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code-er:

Hey, can any one help me with a HDTV-UHF question

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cesman:

we can try

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cesman:

ask away

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code-er:

ok, well i bought an outdoor antena for my balcony

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code-er:

http://www.aa-e.com/detail.php?groupID=9& . . . ctID=53-6305

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code-er:

but im having some trouble pointing it.

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cesman:

get a compass

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code-er:

i mis-calculated some number originally and found my balcony is fasing north east instead of east, i need to point south east

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code-er:

is this gonna be a MAJOr blow to the signal?

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cesman:

http://antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx

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cesman:

that is the site I used to help me...

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cesman:

good luck

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code-er:

bad antenna???

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code-er:

lol

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cesman:

no

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cesman:

I've simply stated

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cesman:

that is the site I used to help me...

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code-er:

k lol lookint at it now thanx

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cesman:

based on your location, it will tell you what kind of antenna you need and which direction to point it

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code-er:

k,

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code-er:

i know im sopposed to point it to buffalo

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code-er:

and with my inside-antena i picked up a channel from buff once.. but i cantg seem to do it agian

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code-er:

w/ big

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code-er:

61.7 miles away'

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code-er:

will the fact that the antenna is facing into my house kill the signal?

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code-er:

(ie satalite 100% needs line of sight)

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psymin:

iamlindoro: do you have a snapstream firefly?

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psymin:

just got the snapstream in the mail today .. I must have lead filled walls or something

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dasunt:

Anyone else using the debian-multimedia version of mythtv?

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kambei:

I've got a stupid question. What command (in the key bindings) is the command that exits a playing recording? (By default, it is the ESC key.)

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cesman:

yes, unless you've changed it

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kambei:

I swear, I cannot find it anywhere.

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kambei:

No, I haven't.

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kambei:

I would like to, but I can't find it!

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kambei:

That is my question, actually. How do I, or CAN I change it?

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kambei:

I have checked through the bindings, and I can't find anything bound to the Escape key.

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kambei:

There is an ESCAPE function in the Global(?) options, but adding another key to that binding does not have the same effect during playback.

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cesman:

Utilities/Setup > Edit Keys

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cesman:

or http://ip.of.your.backend/mythweb/settings/mythtv/keys

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kambei:

cesman: I have gotten that far. I just cannot find this particular binding. Many of the other keys I have already customised.

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kambei:

That was my question. This particular function/binding.

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kambei:

I don't see a way to change it, and I have gone through the bindings several times. Of course, I could be missing something obvious.

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J-e-f-f-A:

Ugh... I was drooling over a "DFI LANPARTY UT NF590 SLI-M2R/G" motherboard for my next myth server build... until I learned that the supposedly hardware raid 5 support is really 'fakeraid'... Still a nice board though...

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Chicago:

I was in here yesterday complaining about VBI CC after switching to linux-2.6.24-gentoo-r3...

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Chicago:

I wanted to point out my problem was due to setting 'v4l2-ctl -d /dev/video[0,1] -c some_features'.

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Chicago:

After turning of any of the customizations to the encoder I kept in /etc/conf.d/local.start, my VBI CC began to work flawlessly again.

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directhex:

hm. well, mythtv-setup.exe runs

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tjcarter:

.exe?

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directhex:

.exe

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tjcarter:

horrifying.

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directhex:

mythfrontend.exe crashes the instant it connects to the db

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sid3windr:

sounds like regular mythfrontend on linux :>

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tjcarter:

and occasionally like mythfrontend.app too =)

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tjcarter:

but if .exe does it 100% of the time, that's not good ;p

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directhex:

i'm recompiling, and i'll watch the build process this time rather than just leaving it to its own devices

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Dagmar:

What do you expect from Windows?

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joecurlee:

i'm trying to set up storage groups as I am using multiple hard drives for my mythtv setup... everything I read points me to mythtv-setup in order to edit storage groups, yet when I run mythtv-setup from the command line, it just takes me to the backend gui setup program and I can't find a storage groups section anywhere in it

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directhex:

joecurlee, what version of myth are you running?

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joecurlee:

that's a great question... it's been a few weeks since installing, let me check

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joecurlee:

i'm running version 0.20

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directhex:

which would explain the lack of storage group settings

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joecurlee:

yea... just saw that

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joecurlee:

ok lol good, so I'll just upgrade. thanks for the info :)

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tafkaz:

anyone here experienced sound problems with some dvds ?

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tafkaz:

i have one marx bros dvd here that doesnt seem to have a working sound...very fuzzy

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tafkaz:

although it used to work wit 0.20

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directhex:

what format is the audio stream?

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tafkaz:

forgot....libab52

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tafkaz:

or something similar ?

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tafkaz:

at least that was the error...

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tafkaz:

could resstart the dvd and see what it says...

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tafkaz:

directhex, nearly ready

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tafkaz:

mom

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tafkaz:

Opened codec 0x83e32f0

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tafkaz:

Disabling Audio, params(0,-1,-1)

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tafkaz:

codec AC3 has 0 channels

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tafkaz:

WriteAudio: buffer underrun

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tafkaz:

hm but it was different last time

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directhex:

what does ffmpeg -i on the main .VOB file say?

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tafkaz:

moment

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tafkaz:

Stream #0.1[0x80]: Audio: 0x0000, 48000 Hz, mono, 192 kb/s

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tafkaz:

[mpeg2video @ 0xb7e36ac8]Warning MVs not available

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tafkaz:

what exactly do you need ?

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directhex:

just pastebin the lot

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tafkaz:

ok moment

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tafkaz:

http://pastebin.com/d2ac79aa4

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tafkaz:

any idea ?

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directhex:

looks broken from here

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directhex:

it should say "ac3", not 0x0000

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tafkaz:

but it worx with mplayer

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tafkaz:

or vlc or xine

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directhex:

mythtv's internal player uses code from ffmpeg. so file a bug

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GreyFoxx:

and a sample would be good :)

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tafkaz:

ok i heard a lot about ffmpeg on guts being a bit buggy

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tafkaz:

maybe i compile it myself

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directhex:

it uses its own local copy of ffmpeg, updating won't help you

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GreyFoxx:

myth has it's own version of ffmpeg

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directhex:

afternoon GreyFoxx!

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tafkaz:

dvd creation doesnt work as well

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GreyFoxx:

howdy

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tafkaz:

seems to be the same thing related to ffmpeg

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tafkaz:

ah ok....

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tafkaz:

well in this case i should file a bug do mythtvs bugzilla ?

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tafkaz:

-do +to

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GreyFoxx:

svn.mythtv.org/trac

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tafkaz:

ok i will see !

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GreyFoxx:

if you can, put up a say 10–20 meg sample file

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tafkaz:

thanx for now and keep up the excellent work !

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tafkaz:

i love 0.21 !

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GreyFoxx:

heh

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directhex:

as a workaround, you can always set the dvd player command as mplayer again

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tafkaz:

sure !

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DustyBin:

I ♥ .21

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tafkaz:

but i like Internal very much and all the other dvds i tried until now work

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directhex:

We ♥ katamari

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Kazan:

ok... all HD recordings on a single channel keep failing.. it's a channel that it is illegal for them to encrypt

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Kazan:

yet it never seems to be able to record on it

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Kazan:

and backend doesn't give me any errors

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Kazan:

i see "PID 0x7c1 status: Encrypted" followed by "PID 0x7c0 status: Encrypted" every so often in the backend logs (at all times.. not just hen recording)

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DustyBin:

my backend logs are getting so big that i might have to buy a new toilet in the near future

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Kazan:

lol

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Kazan:

yeah found one of them that fails in my logs

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Kazan:

it starts recording it... doesn't throw any errors until like.... 15 seconds later when ringbuf cannot open the file

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Kazan:

all programs on the same channel

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mcquaid:

i just did a fresh install of .21. trying to restore my db. i created the database fine, but when trying to restore it i get

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mcquaid:

Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

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mcquaid:

i know this is basic stuff, and i dealt with some of these issues two years ago or whatever, but can't find the answer now

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Kazan:

you need to create a user

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Kazan:

i recommend you install and use phpmyadmin

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Frosty--:

If I were to migrate a machine from MCE to MythTV, what do I do with the DVR-MS files

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Kazan:

afk now to see if they've changed the digital chan mappings

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hnitsuj:

Frosty--: dunno about linux tools to do anything with them – you can prolly convert them to common or garden mpeg easily enough though (in Windows)

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Frosty--:

dvr-ms has metadata, everytime I convert I lose that

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mcquaid:

ok i'll try phpmyadmin

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hnitsuj:

Frosty--: que sera, etc...

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Frosty--:

oh, I'm logged in twice

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Frosty-:

:o

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Kazan:

it appears the problem channel is no longer on the frequency myth expects it is on

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Kazan:

they have to repeat it though.. they're required to by law

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hnitsuj:

Kazan: if it's no longer on the transponder/mux/frequency it used to be, you'll have to rescan

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Kazan:

aye

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Kazan:

letting my tv scan the broadcast space right now

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Kazan:

wonder if cable provders are going to leave the low-numbered channels unencrypted when the all-digital-cable switchover happens

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Kazan:

since so many of us have digital tuners in our TVs (and DVRs :P)

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mjj29:

hmm

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Kazan:

thus far the TV has found 160 digital channels.. but that includes encrypted ones

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mjj29:

so, I'm using mythdvd to rip a DVD

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Kazan:

ok

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mjj29:

can go and do something else while it's ripping?

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Kazan:

dunno

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mjj29:

I tried pressing exit, and it seemed to stop ripping

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Kazan:

oh then no :P

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mjj29:

why not?

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Kazan:

dunno

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Kazan:

i haven't used mythdvd to rip

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mjj29:

clearly that's a sensible thing to want to do

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Kazan:

but if hitting exit stops it

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hnitsuj:

it'd only stop if you pressed 0 AFAIK

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Kazan:

put in a change request

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Kazan:

270 digital channels.. including encrypted

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mjj29:

hnitsuj: that's what's meant to happen?

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Kazan:

wtf noise analog channel 2

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hnitsuj:

mjj29: as far as I know

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Frosty--:

I can't stay connected to irc :/

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Kazan:

omg is that revenge of the nerds

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mjj29:

hmm no

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mjj29:

it ripped it to vob

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Kazan:

ah no.. it's animal house

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mjj29:

then didn't do the transcode

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mjj29:

and deleted the vobs

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** Kazan smacks the history channel for becoming "the jeebus channel" **

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mjj29:

hnitsuj: mjj29.matthew.ath.cx/mtd.log

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hnitsuj:

Kazan: wth do you expect on Easter weekend? :P

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mjj29:

a couple of attempts there, the latter one succeeded

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Kazan:

it's ALWAYS that way though

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mjj29:

and then... didn't transcode

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mjj29:

I have transcode installed

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Kazan:

they need to admit it and rename themselves the not-really-history-channel

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mjj29:

AHA

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mjj29:

-eperm

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mjj29:

damn

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Frosty-:

is the upnp server on myth compatible with the xbox 3606/ps3?

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Frosty-:

-6

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Frosty-:

I got it @ http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/UPnP#UPn . . . with_MythTV:

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Kazan:

hmm

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Kazan:

something i cnanot recognize at 83.9

[15:28:09]

Kazan:

something else on 83.10

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Kazan:

hmm.. is it a free HBO weekend

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Kazan:

found my missing channel :D

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Kazan:

they did move it

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nordle:

hello. Just thought I'd broadcast some of my immense stupidity. Last night I mentioned a kernel compile had taken my Athlon64–3700 up to 77C for at least 5 minutes. Well, I decided to have a poke around inside the myth box to see what was going on. There was a shed load of dust coating the fans and ram, but I also noticed something else. When I built the box in 2006, I put the CPU fan on the wrong way round!!!! Essentially there was not fan rea

[15:36:24]

nordle:

Anyone noticed any gotchas moving from mythtv 0.20 to 0.21?

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mjj29:

you need mysql 5

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nordle:

mjj29: Thanks, I read the wiki and release notes and am already running 5. Silly question on my part I guess, as anything of note would have been included in the release notes.

[15:39:18]

Aval0n:

hey guys if I want to start a program on startup and don't want it to run as root how would I go about doing that?

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nordle:

su username -c "mycommand"

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Vaelys:

crontab

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mjj29:

Aval0n: user crontab @reboot

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Aval0n:

so not what nordle said?

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nordle:

Aval0n: Also, is that startup of the system ie runlevel 3, or graphical X startup? Although my suggestion still stands, but with level 3 I'd shove it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local and for level 4 ~/.fluxbox/startup as example.

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Aval0n:

i want it loaded before X ever inits

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Ojg:

does the usb hauppauge ci smart really work ?

[15:42:40]

Aval0n:

I stuck an executable script in /etc/init.d/ but it didn't run

[15:42:50]

Aval0n:

crontab just works for when that user logs in though right?

[15:43:01]

Aval0n:

I want it loaded always but just not running as root

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Kazan:

yay for channel scans

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Kazan:

would a signal booster that is starting to go bad cause noise on low-numbered analog channels?

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Justin__:

Anyone know why 'Option "TVStandard" "HD480i"' works fine, but when I try to do higher resolutions, it goes wacky? HD576i the image loops vertically very fast, and HD1080i all the screen does is flicker static. This is a 7200 GS w/ component break out box, connected to a 1080i CRT RP HDTV

[15:44:34]

nordle:

Aval0n: I'd do it that way, su username -c "/usr/local/bin/blah", and shove it in rc.local, wherever that is on your system.

[15:45:00]

Aval0n:

yeah that is what I was gonna do

[15:45:12]

Aval0n:

but i made an exectuable file

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Aval0n:

that ran mtd -d

[15:45:16]

Aval0n:

rebooted

[15:45:19]

Aval0n:

and it didn't work

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Aval0n:

I only have an /etc/init.d/

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Aval0n:

no rc.d

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Kazan:

what is the website that lists all the available OTA channels via city/zipcode

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nordle:

within /etc/init.d is there not an rc.local script?

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Aval0n:

I found rc.local

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Aval0n:

ty

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nordle:

:)

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Aval0n:

there is a rc.local in /etc/ and /etc/init.d

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nordle:

Is one just a simlink to the other? I'd go with init.d one.

[15:49:32]

nordle:

symlink

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Aval0n:

no symlink

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nordle:

weird, which distro?

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Kazan:

any way to use myth with FIOS.. or is that just a web dream

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Kazan:

wet*

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Kazan:

does hauppauge not yet have a page for their USB realtime analog HDTV to MPEG2 encoder?

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xand:

analog HDTV... *boggles*

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Aval0n:

feisty nortle

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Aval0n:

nordle

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Aval0n:

looks like it should work now though

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Aval0n:

thx

[15:54:39]

Aval0n:

ubuntu fiesty

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nordle:

ahh, cool, fingers crossed.

[15:57:46]

Kazan:

hmm.. how do you delete individual channels

[15:57:52]

Aval0n:

yeah :)

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Aval0n:

highlight then and hit 'd'

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Aval0n:

them*

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Kazan:

ty

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Aval0n:

yep

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Kazan:

bunch of HBO channels coming through unencrypted.. but i cannot get listing data for them

[15:58:25]

Kazan:

and i think it's a free preview weekend anyway

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fryfrog:

xand: what is so "boggle" about analog hd tv? what do you think component is?

[16:01:44]

xand:

no idea, I never used it :P

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Kazan:

xand: component is analog

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xand:

I know that

[16:02:58]

Kazan:

hauppuage announced a USB product a few months ago that would accept that input + audio of your choice (including digital fiber) and recompress it back into MPEG2 in real time

[16:03:06]

Kazan:

that way you can slave a cable box

[16:03:13]

Kazan:

and not worry about firewire :D

[16:03:17]

Kazan:

you get ALL your channels :P

[16:03:34]

Kazan:

it's like $250 though

[16:03:53]

nordle:

Does a DVD upscaler do anything more than simply running nvidia card at 1920x1080 and using mplayer with a bunch of --post-processing?

[16:04:17]

Kazan:

oh.. transcodes it into H264 actually

[16:04:24]

Kazan:

nordle: no

[16:04:28]

Kazan:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/11/hauppaug . . . onent-input/

[16:04:55]

nordle:

Kazan: I'll save a few quid and not get one then, thanks :)

[16:05:01]

directhex:

nordle, no

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directhex:

nordle, half the time they don't even do the post processing

[16:06:41]

mcquaid:

i can login to my myth box locally using 127.0.0.1 but not when using an ip. so i can't get other frontends on the lan to connect

[16:07:05]

directhex:

mcquaid, so edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf to stop it from binding to 127.0.0.1

[16:07:15]

mcquaid:

i changed bind address to reflect the box's ip address

[16:07:27]

directhex:

and restarted the mysql daemon?

[16:07:44]

nordle:

I've seen good reviews, but they cost sooooo much. I wonder if Linux would have been running HD-DVD before Bluray, shame then that sony "won". I also find it funny, as reading some stuff, it sounds like bluray standard hasnt even been completed, they are working on the 2nd or 3rd I think (known as profiles).

[16:08:09]

directhex:

nordle, blu-ray and hd-dvd use the same copy protection, which is the only blocker

[16:08:18]

nordle:

doh.

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directhex:

nordle, you can play the files stored on either disc on linux if you rip first

[16:08:40]

mcquaid:

yep just restarted mysql again

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directhex:

and on the backend, you can get though to mysql if you use the network ip (not 127.0.0.1)?

[16:09:20]

nordle:

true, but bunging the disc in and just pressing play is only when I'd buy the format. Don't want to waste hours decoding, not to mention the electrcity!

[16:10:00]

** Kazan grrrrrsss! **

[16:10:12]

Kazan:

public money..... public television.... bible show in HD.....!

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** Kazan spits fire **

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Aval0n:

how large on average are your guys' HDTV recordings 30 minutes?

[16:10:34]

mcquaid:

directhex, ok i think it's my fault. going back how i created the mythtv user: GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost;

[16:10:35]

directhex:

Kazan, welcome to the separation of church and state. please enjoy your stay

[16:10:48]

Kazan:

directhex: the LACK of respect for such seperation you mean

[16:10:51]

mcquaid:

@localhost will make only localhost connects possible right?

[16:10:54]

Kazan:

and the lack of enforcement

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directhex:

Kazan, the same respect it's had for decades

[16:11:09]

directhex:

Kazan, right

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directhex:

bah

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Kazan:

lately it's had less respect than it did say... in the 90s

[16:11:15]

directhex:

mcquaid, ^

[16:11:20]

Kazan:

was a little better in the 90s

[16:11:39]

Kazan:

but since 2000 christian supremacism has been resurgent

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mcquaid:

what's ^ ? topic?

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directhex:

mcquaid, the "right"

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directhex:

Kazan, what amuses me is the attitude one set of fundamentalists has when discussing another group of fundamentalists

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directhex:

Kazan, the ideal right-wing america proposed by places by fox news is saudia arabia with christians

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mcquaid:

i guess what i'm getting at is how do i fix mythtv user so it's not just localhost

[16:13:37]

Kazan:

yup directhex

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mcquaid:

if that's even my issue

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Kazan:

hmm... wtf didn't KDSMDT get listings

[16:14:13]

Kazan:

i had to rescan my digital channel table

[16:14:18]

Kazan:

i gave it the right callsign

[16:14:25]

Kazan:

it should have gotten listings when i ran mythfill

[16:14:27]

Kazan:

but it didn't

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Kazan:

wtf?

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directhex:

GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `mythconverg`.* TO 'mythtv'@'%'

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nordle:

GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@127.0.0.*; GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@192.168.0.*;

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nordle:

ahh, beat me to it.

[16:16:21]

Kazan:

how do i make sure my channels are linked up to the right SD listing source?

[16:21:49]

Kazan:

why isn't it getting data!

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Kazan:

it simple hooked it right up before.. no muss no fuss and instantly started getting data

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mcquaid:

hmm still failing. i this when running the frontend: http://www.pastebin.ca/952865

[16:25:21]

Kazan:

all the other channels seem to work

[16:25:24]

Kazan:

why won't kdsm dt

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Kazan:

ha got it!

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Kazan:

i had to get it's XMLTV id from SD and manually enter it into the DB

[16:29:08]

Kazan:

i listed all channels on that source in the database and looked for differences in their records

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directhex:

mcquaid, which GRANt did you use?

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mcquaid:

i tried yours first with privileges then with just grant all on

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mcquaid:

but both times as `mythconverg`.* TO 'mythtv'@'%'

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directhex:

do you definitely have the qt3 mysql driver installed?

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directhex:

libqt3-mt-mysql on debianish systems

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mcquaid:

ill check

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Ojg:

anyone know if the hauppauge ci smart usb works in linux ?

[16:33:38]

directhex:

Ojg, no

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hnitsuj:

Ojg: yeah I know it doesn't

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Ojg:

k

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directhex:

loopback decryption isn't supported

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directhex:

there are ways to use CAM on linux, that isn't one of them

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hnitsuj:

isn't, more than likely never will be supported in mythtv

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Ojg:

what dvb-t cards with cam would you guys recommend then ?

[16:35:20]

directhex:

technotrend t-1500

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mcquaid:

yes i have libqt3-mt-mysql

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directhex:

pastebin SHOW GRANTS FOR mythtv;

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mcquaid:

directhex, http://www.pastebin.ca/952879

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mcquaid:

sorry for the delay

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mcquaid:

i switched it back to localhost as a test, and it didn't complain starting the frontend, but went into recordings and nothing was there

[16:45:29]

directhex:

your grants are incomplete

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directhex:

you're granting usage, but not privileges

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mcquaid:

hmm, but i did enter what you had with privileges

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mcquaid:

are you saying there is something else in addition to that?

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directhex:

http://pastebin.ca/952885 shows the content of mine

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mcquaid:

ok thx

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mcquaid:

hmm, i redid the privilege line and redid show grants but same thing..

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directhex:

try using something else, e.g. phpmyadmin, to administer your database

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mcquaid:

ya i guess i should. it now says sql syntax error when i show grants

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mcquaid:

ok a little progress, i have the privileges as yours, but no no front end connects.

[17:17:53]

mcquaid:

well it doesn't complain at first, normally bringing up the setup screen, so it seems to connect but then notifies me when giong into recordings that it can't connect to the backend server

[17:19:13]

mcquaid:

i notice the frontend it's trying 192.168.10.3:6543 but i see the port as 3306 in my.cnf

[17:23:19]

mcquaid:

ok 6543 is setup in mythtv-setup so that's obviously not the issue,

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directhex:

6543 is a mythbackend port, not a mysql port

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mcquaid:

yes i confused the two

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mcquaid:

here is what happens when i launch the frontend

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mcquaid:

http://pastebin.ca/952931

[17:26:23]

mcquaid:

it seems to connect fine, but then complains of timing out

[17:27:22]

mcquaid:

it says connected at first, but then at the end connecting to... and then connection timed out

[17:32:09]

mcquaid:

i'm trying to find that mysql cmd to check the mythconverg db, just want to see if it reports errors

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Cackette:

hey guys

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Cackette:

ever since .21, everything has been screwed up for me]

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Cackette:

i removed mythdvd, updated mythvideo

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Cackette:

and still not working

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xand:

that's a bit vague

[17:34:19]

Cackette:

well

[17:34:54]

Cackette:

lets say i go to watch a recording, the video and audio both start, but 1 second later, the video freezes, and the audio continues

[17:35:02]

Cackette:

thats HD

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Cackette:

for SD, i get a rainbow static w/ audio

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noclue:

is the Internal player capable of playing .srt subtitles?

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ckh:

Will mythtv work with the Xbox360?

[17:40:10]

ckh:

the mailinglist seems rather vague

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nordle:

Cackette: I'm just about to go over to 0.21 now... Doesn't help you, but it'll be interesting to see what happens.

[17:46:00]

Cackette:

ok

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noclue:

does the Internal player support .srt subtitles? if so, how can i view them?

[17:48:44]

GreyFoxx:

noclue: If the srt is in the same directory as the video being played and has an identical file name

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GreyFoxx:

it will auto load

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GreyFoxx:

them you have to hit T or some such to make them display

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noclue:

ah, excellent. thank you

[17:49:42]

Cackette:

whoa, downloading a mpg from my mythbox via mythweb to a regular computer on the same network rules

[17:49:45]

Cackette:

5000kB/s

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GreyFoxx:

I've got a on scren menu item in mine for displaying them but I didn't wanna commit it since it's yet another item in that menu which is already too big :)

[17:50:27]

noclue:

indeed

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GreyFoxx:

I could rename the CC/VBI menu item and add it as a subitem there

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jams:

GreyFoxx- any hints on where to look for REALLY long delays in taking a screenshot ?

[17:51:28]

GreyFoxx:

jams: are you VNC'd into the FE you are taking a snapshot of by chance ?

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jams:

most times its less then a second, but sometimes it reaches well over a minute

[17:51:36]

jams:

nope

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jams:

seems random, even happens in the menus

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GreyFoxx:

ok, In the few cases I've seen it, if I cause a redraw event , even by just clicking ion the myth window once, the shot immediately finishes

[17:52:30]

GreyFoxx:

It's as if QT's code for grabbing the window is waiting for a redraw

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jams:

sounds about right

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GreyFoxx:

I was thinking of trying to force a redraw jsut as I take the snapshot

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jams:

oh you might want to look at ticket #5001 =)

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GreyFoxx:

is that about it?

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GreyFoxx:

Ahhh ok

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GreyFoxx:

hmmmm

[17:54:25]

jams:

no, it fixes another problem

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GreyFoxx:

Cool

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jams:

it's not your code, just the way jumppoints work from the telnet interface

[17:55:06]

jams:

Don't know if it's "correct" but it works for me

[17:55:19]

Hoochster:

greyfoxx, you run the msntv2's as frontends right? just ordered one to try out, I assume it isn't all too difficult to get going?

[17:55:30]

GreyFoxx:

I'm crossing my fingers that the dvd changer shows up on Tuesday

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jams:

me to

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GreyFoxx:

I assume they didn't come back from customs

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jams:

not yet

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GreyFoxx:

I'll get you your money

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jams:

the other box is waiting to ship. I snagged a box from work

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GreyFoxx:

I've got a bunch of ideas and frankly annoyances about the way our media monitor works now that I plan to alter

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GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: Actually it is a bit of a pain

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GreyFoxx:

but I do see a lot of working going on now

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Hoochster:

ahh well nothing worthwhile is easy lol

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GreyFoxx:

a linuxbios that supports it

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GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: hehe yeah

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Hoochster:

nice

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Hoochster:

does it work fast enough, I don't expect ya know speed of like a 4G system heh just was curious of response time

[17:57:22]

GreyFoxx:

I'm tempted to solder on a vga header on one of mine to mess with

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Aval0n:

!seen |torg|

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MythLogBot:

|torg| was last seen 20 hours 27 minutes 34 seconds ago

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Hoochster:

prob would look better with VGA

[17:57:39]

Aval0n:

anyone in here ever gotten their TV to 120hhz

[17:57:41]

GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: works perfectly find for me.

[17:57:47]

GreyFoxx:

SDTV only of course

[17:58:06]

Hoochster:

thanks, might hit you up for questions once I get it, but will see what I can come up with on my own first. Want to try one and then possible add some more in the mix

[17:58:10]

Hoochster:

ya no doubt

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Hoochster:

on the SDTV

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Hoochster:

plan on using it in the bedrooms

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GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: It was a big hit in the bedroom for us

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Hoochster:

enjoy heh wife has mine out on a Hunt now lol

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GreyFoxx:

I got rid fo the PC and put in a silent stb

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GreyFoxx:

wife loved it

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jams:

heh easter gifts from the hardware store

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destructar:

Hi. I'm attempting to upgrade mythtv from 0.20 to 0.21 on ubuntu 7.10 any suggestions for this? I can't find a decent guide on it

[17:58:49]

GreyFoxx:

jams: well iut

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Hoochster:

ya that's what my goal is, prob only get 2 for here and maybe a couple for my parents house

[17:58:57]

Hoochster:

for their bedrooms

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Hoochster:

thanks for the info

[17:59:05]

GreyFoxx:

jams: well it's really 2 seperate stops but I was too lazy to add that in :)

[17:59:38]

GreyFoxx:

the QT4 port stuff is not far away now

[17:59:47]

GreyFoxx:

they've done a lot of stuff in a short time

[18:00:07]

jams:

took less time then anticpated

[18:00:12]

GreyFoxx:

heack yeah

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GreyFoxx:

well, bbl

[18:00:43]

GreyFoxx:

*p00f*&

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hnitsuj:

easter gifts? a man died, no reason to celebrate ;)

[18:03:47]

nordle:

destructar: I'm doing similar, I checked the wiki and all it said on upgrades was "The upgrade from previous versions should be transparent. Any changes to the database structure should be applied automatically. It is strongly recommended that you back up your database before installing a new version of MythTV."

[18:04:04]

destructar:

yea saw that too... :(

[18:04:14]

destructar:

found this thread which might be useful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=721397

[18:04:55]

nordle:

woo, its snowing.

[18:07:24]

hnitsuj:

nordle: the database will be backed up into your recordings dir automagically before it does the schema upgrade

[18:08:32]

nordle:

hnnitsuj: I've done a backup, didn't realise it did that too, this is a great system :) Remind me I said that when I'm crying into my beer later on.

[18:09:29]

nordle:

I'm compiling from source, as using Slackware, CPU seems topped out at 56C now that I've got the fan on the right way round.

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nordle:

oops hnnitsuj=hnitsuj

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directhex:

it runs!

[18:15:07]

directhex:

C:\mythtv\mythtv\run>mythfrontend.exe

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directhex:

2008-03–22 18:14:05.875 Using runtime prefix = C:/MSys/1.0, libdir = C:/MSys/1.0/lib

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hnitsuj:

directhex: blasphemer!!!!!!!

[18:17:42]

directhex:

hnitsuj, yeah, but it took me 2 days. i wouldn't worry about an influx of windows people yet

[18:18:06]

hnitsuj:

directhex: just wait til people are getting hold of zip files though

[18:18:18]

directhex:

hnitsuj, there's a reason i refused a request to generate one

[18:18:36]

directhex:

the FE is *slow* and glitchy as hell

[18:20:03]

hnitsuj:

welcome to the world of the epia user :P

[18:20:56]

directhex:

i think qt3 is to blame for much of the suck here

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directhex:

also, why on earth is the window title in chinese? O_o

[18:21:51]

nordle:

they are taking over everything.

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directhex:

it's official, much as the menus are pretty broken, i have livetv

[18:23:09]

directhex:

a/v out of sync though

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nordle:

Could you have used cgywin thingy?

[18:24:19]

nordle:

mmmm CPU 64C, GPU 75C.... compile damn you!

[18:25:34]

CCFL_Man2:

lol

[18:26:19]

nordle:

It's a race, binary vs fire, which result will happen first :)

[18:26:34]

Cackette:

so is there any way to revert to .20 from .21

[18:26:54]

hnitsuj:

Cackette: no, you're screwed

[18:26:57]

directhex:

no

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hnitsuj:

*unless you backed up your old database

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Cackette:

i heard that .21 did a backup

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directhex:

it should have made a database backup. check your recordings dir

[18:27:49]

hnitsuj:

Cackette: you heard right :)

[18:27:52]

directhex:

and don't expect support

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hnitsuj:

Cackette: why revert?

[18:28:03]

Cackette:

.21 screwed playback up

[18:28:17]

Cackette:

read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732020

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hnitsuj:

how so?

[18:28:19]

nordle:

make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. mmwwwwooooohhhhaaaaa binary has it by a nose.

[18:30:22]

directhex:

for all the doubters: http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/wp-content/g . . . tv-win32.JPG

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nordle:

I didn't doubt for a second that Poirot was currently on ITV3.

[18:33:10]

hnitsuj:

IT3 – the poirot channel

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mjj29:

hnitsuj: yeah, my mythtv is busy recording them all

[18:33:36]

mjj29:

directhex: are builds of that going to be available?

[18:33:42]

directhex:

mjj29, absolutely not

[18:34:03]

mjj29:

I have a few people here with windows boxes who would like to frontend onto my mythtv system

[18:34:06]

mjj29:

directhex: why not?

[18:34:13]

directhex:

it took *me* 2 days. if that's not a sign it's unready for primetime, i don't know what is

[18:34:21]

nordle:

The best thing about 0.21, not having actually used it yet, is the multi record on a multiplex feature, v.nice.

[18:34:23]

hnitsuj:

putting tarballs of things prone to be used by clueless idiots leaves one wide open to "prease herp" emails

[18:34:53]

directhex:

menus are broken, plugins are missing, and there's the "3.5 gig of disk space" issue

[18:35:01]

mjj29:

mmm nice

[18:35:03]

mjj29:

fair enough

[18:35:03]

directhex:

i could probably strip it down if i tried, of course

[18:35:37]

mjj29:

nordle: oh? can you record two channels on the same multiplex simultaneously?

[18:35:40]

mjj29:

cool!

[18:36:16]

directhex:

it appears to require m5 is the hard-coded limit

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nordle:

yep.

[18:36:18]

mjj29:

well, I guess my windows-only housemates will have to watch TV in the lounge still

[18:36:19]

directhex:

bah

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directhex:

5 is the hard-coded limit

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directhex:

5 per tuner

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directhex:

unless you haxx0r the source

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mjj29:

sure

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mjj29:

it'll do that automagically, I assume?

[18:37:03]

mjj29:

also, how is that affected by priorities?

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nordle:

You could do it in kaffeine for years....but your probably sick of hearing that.

[18:37:10]

mjj29:

can you get priority inversion?

[18:37:26]

nordle:

Is that like when a future you meats a past you?

[18:37:50]

mjj29:

nordle: that's when high priority stuff can get blocked by low priority stuff for other reasons

[18:39:01]

nordle:

mjj29: sorry, I was just kidding, you get cheesy films where they travel in time and stuff, ignore me, its the heat from the compiling its making my head go dizzy.

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mjj29:

(-:

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mjj29:

I mean, does it record the highest priority thing and anything else on that mux?

[18:39:41]

mjj29:

does it optimise for recording the most things?

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directhex:

bugger me sidways. libmythtv-0.21.dll: Size on disk: 142 MB (149,172,224 bytes)

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mjj29:

what happens if you have program A at +5 from 1–2, B at +1 from 1–4 on the same mux and C at +3 from 3–4 on a different mux?

[18:40:31]

nordle:

That'll be the kitchen sink then.

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hnitsuj:

mjj29: just upgrade & find out for yourself ye lazy arse

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nordle:

lol

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mjj29:

Package: libmyth-0.21

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mjj29:

Installed-Size: 20128

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mjj29:

hnitsuj: I have upgraded

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directhex:

mjj29, i suspect it's got a staticly linked qt or somesuch madness

[18:41:27]

mjj29:

just it's a pain to setup these things

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mjj29:

when someone here might know

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hnitsuj:

don't use priorities much

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nordle:

I'm definitely going to look into the plex thing, once its installed.....on plugins now....

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mjj29:

(if A causes B to be recorded which casuses 3 not to be recorded, that's priority inversion)

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mjj29:

s/3/C

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nordle:

ok, I've installed tv, plugins and themes. According to my notes from last time, I should be running mysql < mc.sql and granting privileges. Do I just to run mythtv-setup, or just mythtvfilldatabase?

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nordle:

ie no need for the sql and grant.

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kormoc:

you need to run mythtv-setup

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kormoc:

ooh

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kormoc:

you need the sql

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nordle:

I'm upgrading from 0.20 though. Still run the SQL?

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directhex:

no

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directhex:

absolutely not. not required for an upgrade. will probably eat your dog if you do

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kormoc:

yeah, upgrades don't need the sql

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nordle:

What about the mythtv-setup? Or just mythfill?

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nordle:

Would prefer no dog eating, or system hosing if possible :)

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directhex:

running mythtv-setup would be a good thing, for sanity checking

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kormoc:

they won't hurt things

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nordle:

ok, thanks, fingers+toes are crossed.

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Frosty-:

The internal player and menus need a screensaver

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Cackette:

any pros in here?

[19:27:02]

Cackette:

still no resolve on my playback issues

[19:27:21]

Cackette:

described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732020

[19:28:07]

kormoc:

Frosty-, setup xscreen saver?

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kormoc:

Cackette, try changing your playback profile?

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Cackette:

kormoc: none of them work

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Cackette:

they cause various issues w/ HD and SD, depending on which profile it is

[19:34:32]

kormoc:

Cackette, you likely need to read the frontend output and create your own then

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Aval0n:

hey guys, with my analog TV it looks like utter crap until I put the birate up to 5000–6000

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Aval0n:

is that normal?

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Aval0n:

I've seen people say that they are fine with 2–3

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psm321:

is there a list somewhere of what resolutions work well for ivtv? (i was using 480x480 for livetv and it works fine with my pvr-350 but gives issues w/ the pvr-500... have a similar problem w/ my recordings at another resolution)

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kormoc:

Aval0n, depends on your eyes

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Cackette:

kormoc: why would everything work fine w/ .20 but not .21

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Aval0n:

but if I set it 2–3 it's HORRIBLY blocky

[19:35:20]

Aval0n:

I don't think it's my eyes

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Aval0n:

it's pretty bad

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kormoc:

Aval0n, I'm fine with 1100, but then I had it at 120x120 res

[19:35:30]

Aval0n:

at 2–3k

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Aval0n:

:)

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kormoc:

Cackette, cause the way things are done changed?

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Aval0n:

do you have it on an hdtv?

[19:36:00]

Aval0n:

I run it on a 50 inch plasma

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Aval0n:

do you think it would look better at 120x120?

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kormoc:

Aval0n, at the time, I ran it on a 15" lcd in a window

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Aval0n:

o

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kormoc:

Aval0n, 120x120 you'd hate

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Aval0n:

okie

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Aval0n:

i have it set 720x480 atm

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kormoc:

Aval0n, http://www.kickassmysticninjas.com/images/kamn_120x120.jpg

[19:37:03]

kormoc:

Aval0n, that's a 120x120 image, so you get a idea of size

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Aval0n:

lol

[19:37:12]

Aval0n:

true

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Aval0n:

analog is 480x480 isn't it?

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kormoc:

but what I said is true. Blocky video doesn't bother me as most of the time I just listen to it

[19:37:48]

Aval0n:

I couldn't set it to 720x720 could i?

[19:37:49]

psm321:

Aval0n: i have mine at 800, but my quality is poort

[19:38:00]

Aval0n:

800 what

[19:38:08]

Aval0n:

800 bitrate?

[19:38:11]

psm321:

ya

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AndyCap:

720x480 for ntsc and x576 for pal iirc.

[19:38:25]

Aval0n:

720x480 is what I'm at

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Aval0n:

cartoons look great lol

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kormoc:

Aval0n, really tho, just set it to what looks good to you and call it good

[19:39:00]

Aval0n:

of course

[19:39:08]

Aval0n:

yeah I know

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psm321:

Aval0n: well the higher your res the higher your bitrate is going to need to be

[19:39:15]

Aval0n:

I might just be too picky

[19:39:31]

Aval0n:

is there a most common option for deinterlacing analog cable tv

[19:39:41]

Aval0n:

I use linear blend currently

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Aval0n:

if you have a cable coming in, and you split it 2 ways. can the 2nd output leg cause interference to the 1st? even though it's on the opposite leg?

[19:42:10]

Aval0n:

like if it's a bad cable to the other tv?

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PatrickDK:

Aval0n, yes

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Aval0n:

really?

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clever:

i have 2 directorys with http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv/ and http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythplugins

[19:46:20]

clever:

how would i convert the parrent of both into http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/

[19:46:30]

ShiftyPowers:

i have a weird issue with my mythtv svn box....when i click on LiveTV the video comes on for a few seconds and then freezes and the audio gets all garbled. I can then exit back out to the main menu. Weird thing is that if I watch the same thing via the Recordings menu it is fine

[19:46:38]

ShiftyPowers:

anyone heard of such an issue?

[19:46:44]

ShiftyPowers:

i can't figur eout how to trouble shoot it

[19:46:57]

ShiftyPowers:

livetv just freezes and audio gets garbled

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psm321:

odd... at certain resolutions my pvr-500 shows captions fine if i'm not also playing video, but get garbles if i am playing/recording video (testing caption decoding w/ zvbi)

[19:51:56]

Cackette:

kormoc: i added the frontend log to my forum post, if you'd check it out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732020

[19:52:35]

kormoc:

Cackette, try setting everything to use xv-blit

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Cackette:

how do i do that, kormoc

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Cackette:

in playback settings

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Cackette:

like do i have to make a new profile?

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kormoc:

I'd recommend that you do, so you don't screw up the defaults

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Cackette:

ok

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Cackette:

ok, xv-blit is a no-go

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Cackette:

rainbow static screens on both HD and SD

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Justin__:

anyone know why when trying to do TV out with component (7200GS) I can't get any HD modes to work, and no HD modes are listed under "TV modes supported by this encoder" in my Xorg.0.log

[20:01:26]

psm321:

is it possible to assign different default recording profiles to 2 cards of the same type? (both MPEG2 cards)

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Justin__:

the xorg log is only listing SD standards as being supported by the nvidia tv encoder, when I know this should be able to do HD standards

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Cackette:

any other ideas kormoc?

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GreyFoxx:

the tv encoder, aka composite/svideo out fdcannot do HDTV resolutions

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GreyFoxx:

or are you using dvi/component ?

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Aval0n:

!seen |torg|

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MythLogBot:

|torg| was last seen 22 hours 41 minutes 18 seconds ago

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kormoc:

Cackette, well, I'd figure out how to fix that. xv-blit really should work

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kormoc:

Cackette, try logging with -v playback

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mjj29:

can transcoding and mythcommflag be scheduled as jobs which can't be run at the same time?

[20:23:18]

mjj29:

they thrash the disk enough that if you try watching something at the same time the load goes through the roof

[20:23:29]

kormoc:

set max run jobs at once to 1

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mjj29:

kormoc: is that in mythsetup of mythfrontend->setup?

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kormoc:

mythsetup

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mjj29:

I have it set to one

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kormoc:

then two jobs shouldn't run at the same time ever

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mjj29:

I think the problem is that mtd and mythbackend don't use the same job queue

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kormoc:

you likely have real-time commflagging enabled

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mjj29:

oh, there's an 'allow transcoding jobs' flag

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mjj29:

and an 'allow commercial detection jobs' flag

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mjj29:

does that mean 'allow them simultaneously' or 'allow them at all'?

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kormoc:

allow them at all

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mjj29:

hmm

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kormoc:

diable real time commflagging should cause commflagging to be a user job rather then a recording job

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mjj29:

the transcode is with mythdvd ripping, not transcoding of recorded files

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kormoc:

that's not a job, aye

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mjj29:

ah

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mjj29:

that's what I thought might be the case

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mjj29:

no way to make it one?

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kormoc:

not that I know of

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Frosty-:

kormoc, but doesn't x screen saver work on idle input? so screensaver could come on during playback

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kormoc:

Frosty-, yes

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kormoc:

You wanted a screen savor for the internal player, that would do it

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Frosty-:

it must be trivial to implement a call for screensaver when video isn't playing and the frontend is idle

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Frosty-:

beyond me, but trivial for a C expert :)

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kormoc:

why not just setup dpms?

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** Frosty- googles dpms **

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kormoc:

Digital Power Management System

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kormoc:

myth enables/disabled dpms when pausing/playing video and at the menus and all that

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kormoc:

my tv turns off the picture automagically after a few minutes of idleness

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Frosty-:

Going to look into that now, thanks :)

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GreyFoxx:

I'm thinking of doing up a idle screensaver tie in to mythgallery at some point

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GreyFoxx:

but for now I just turn off the TV when I'm not watching :)

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Frosty-:

its the kids leaving the TV on :/

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kormoc:

turn off the kids?

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cesman:

no matter how great the technology, it isn't a subsitute for good parenting

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cesman:

talk to your kids

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cesman:

tell them to turn the tv off

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cesman:

then if they don't listen, you can follow kormoc suggestion ;)

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chipi:

Hello. I'd like to buy a DVB-T card featuring hardware MPEG2 decoding and, of course, working with Linux 2.6 out-of-the-box, any recommendation? MPEG4, HD and those things are appreciated as well. Thanks.

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chipi:

single tuner is ok and a combo dvb-t/dvb-c would be marvelous.

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iamlindoro:

Keep dreaming ;)

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Cackette:

lol

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Cackette:

hey iamlindoro

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Freeaqingme:

I think I configured everything correctly. However, whenever I press 'watch tv', I see a black screen for half a second, and then I get back in my main-menu. I cant find nothing in my logs...

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chipi:

maybe we could forget some features, such as HD/MPEG4 ;)

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kormoc:

the decoder doesn't exist afaik

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iamlindoro:

OK, first off, Hardware decode exists on a *few* old DVB-S (and S only) cards but is largely a waste because a decent graphics card is far more capable in that regard, and because DVB cards with hardware decode have major downsides. Secondly, HD is not a function of the card, it's a function of the signal-- the card couldn't care less, it's just tuning a digital stream and dumping it to disk. MPEG-4, likewise, is a function

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iamlindoro:

Actually, let me correct myself, h.264 is probably only available on DVB-T2 cards

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TelnetManta:

Hi, any Mythtv DVB users here????

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iamlindoro:

Which, like S2 and C2, are largely unsupported in linux, and if there is any support, it's through experimental drivers that need to be compiled from v4l-dvb Hg

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chipi:

aha

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chipi:

so, forgetting about HD and hardware decoding, what do we have in the market? ;)

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iamlindoro:

"any linux supported DVB-T card."

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TelnetManta:

theres hardware out there for HD

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iamlindoro:

TelnetManta: Like I told him, HD has nothing to do with the card.

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chipi:

iamlindoro: and inside this set, any working better on linux than others?

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iamlindoro:

a DVB-T card will tune an HD channel exactly as it would an SD channel, all it's doing is dumping the TS to disk.

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iamlindoro:

chipi: You should be looking at the DVB wiki at linuxtv.org for those answers, it's quite good

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chipi:

I'm asking about HD because this summer one channel is broadcasting the Olympic Games in HD via DVB-T and I wouldn't like waste my money buying something I won't be able to use ;)

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chipi:

(to watch that channel, of course).

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iamlindoro:

chipi: figure I've pretty well answered that question at this point

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chipi:

yup, I got it.

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iamlindoro:

Just make sure they're transmitting T and not T2

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iamlindoro:

And if it's T2, then you'll need to check the linuxtv wiki for a DVB-T2 card w/ experimental support and compile it yourself, most likely

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metalac:

hey guys

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chipi:

are DVB-T2 cards more expensive than -T ones?

[21:03:40]

metalac:

i have a strange problem

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metalac:

every time i start mythfrontend my X crashes

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iamlindoro:

chipi: I live in the US, but my guess would be yes

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** Wonka wants a dvb-s2 usb interface, possibly with CAM... **

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metalac:

i tried it with myth 20.2 and then i tried it with 21 and it's the same

[21:04:21]

metalac:

it started happening after I ran some updates on ubuntu

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Cackette:

hey, iamlindoro, can you check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732020

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chipi:

iamlindoro: ok, will take a look to linuxtv.org wiki, many thanks for your help.

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iamlindoro:

Cackette: I'm just taking my dog to the park, I'll have to look at that later

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iamlindoro:

Cackette: My brief suggestion would be don't keep trying to use xvmc-blit, as it's apparently not available on your machine

[21:05:49]

iamlindoro:

you should be using Xv-blit, most likely

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mjj29:

does mythweb really depend on apache?

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metalac:

last error I see when i run --verbose all is "MythSocket: readyread thread exit"

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mjj29:

or is that the packager being overzealous

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mjj29:

ah, don't mind me (-:

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MediAWak3:

Does anyone know how to use MythRename.pl???

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metalac:

is there a higher level than --verbose, all for mythfrontend?

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metalac:

i mean higher debug level

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chipi:

nice, the card I've interested in seems supported :)

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chipi:

s/'ve/was

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Tuv0k:

I'd like to find where I can get my correct locale to insert into mythweb settings for the backend

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TelnetManta:

chipi: what are you wanting to do exactly?

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TelnetManta:

chipi: I use DVB-S cards so I may be of no help to you

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chipi:

TelnetManta: just watching TV on my computer

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superm1:

hey folks, does multirec work with the hdhomerun, or just dvb devices?

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jams:

hdhomerun support is in the queue

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mjj29:

anyone here using mythweb with lighttpd

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superm1:

jamesd, okay, i'll let my buddy know not to expect it in 0.21 then. thx :)

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hnitsuj:

chipi: dvb-t2 devices don't yet exist AFAIK

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directhex:

it's superm1!

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superm1:

hi directhex

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superm1:

dont see me in here much :)

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nordle:

Well, the upgrade from 0.20 to 0.21 has gone really well, thanks guys! The new mythweb is brilliant, can easily do streaming now :) Loads of extra bits in mythweb, really useful. And mythtv is, well, working nicely. Have playback profiles always been there? I don't recognise them.

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iamlindoro:

they are new for .21

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mjj29:

hmm, I'm trying to setup mythweb

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mjj29:

and the urls to the images etc link to ./skins/....

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mjj29:

but some of the dynamic urls are: /tv/detail/1003/12339237

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mjj29:

which results in the web browser requesting /tv/detail/1003/./skins/....

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mjj29:

(or possibly /tv/detail/1003/skins/....

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mjj29:

which doesn't work

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mjj29:

how is this meant to work?

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mjj29:

there's no <base href="

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xand:

hmmm... now why doesn't mythtv find my dvb card Frontend IDs :|

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nemik_:

does UPnP work with photos yet?

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clever:

wee

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clever:

core dump!

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clever:

#0 0x0807e404 in RingBuffer::isDVD (this=0x0) at RingBuffer.h:92

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clever:

been here thought i fixed it

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clever:

#0 0x0807e404 in RingBuffer::isDVD (this=0x0) at RingBuffer.h:92

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clever:

#1 0xb7a4debe in TV::ProcessKeypress (this=0x8476250, e=0xb38010d8) at tv_play.cpp:3542

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clever:

MythTV Version : 16421M

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clever:

my old ticket for it is closed

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clever:

i'll reopen with the new backtrace

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xand:

hmm... I'm trying to use a nova-t dvb card; but getting this error: "2008-03–22 23:15:02.636 Can't open DVB frontend (/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0)."; that dev does exist

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Cackette:

iamlindoro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732020

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iamlindoro_:

Cackette: I already gave my answer/impression to that

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iamlindoro_:

you are trying to play with XvMC and your machine is not configured for xvmc. It's falling back to OpenGL which is experimental and shouldn't be expected to work.

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iamlindoro_:

Use Xv

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CCFL_Man2:

iamlindoro_: digital cable boxes require some sort of headend equipment to be usable

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** iamlindoro_ is *not home*. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain **

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nordle:

I've just upgraded, and I'm feeling cocky :) I think I might have a crack at getting an updated channels.conf loaded. I've done the scan and have a channels.conf. but I read http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Adding_D . . . ds_--_Norway here that "You must put in the correct multipex frequency into every channel imported." Why? And is that more important now due to recording on same multiplex.

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nordle:

I have SQL that runs everytime that xmltv does, it updates the channel table to include the correct xmltvid. So I need to be a little careful as it took a while to setup. But I never had anything in the freqid column before, so is it that important?

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CCFL_Man2:

iamlindoro_: hehe

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Aval0n:

iamlindoro_: hey man do you know if there is a flag for mplayer to make it PASS ac3 audio?

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iamlindoro_:

-ac hwac3

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Aval0n:

perfecto

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Aval0n:

thank you sir

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iamlindoro_:

yarp

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