Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Monday, March 10th, 2008, 00:01 UTC

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Aval0n:

will it hose mythtv if I install a svn ver of ffmpeg?

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jarle:

Aval0n: ubuntu?

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Aval0n:

yes

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Aval0n:

7.04

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cesman:

Aval0n: no, it should not

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Aval0n:

ok ty

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cesman:

yw

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javatexan:

howdy all

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javatexan:

how do you defrag a xfs filesystem?

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javatexan:

other than sudo rm -fr /

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javatexan:

;)

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javatexan:

i already tried that...worked great and did a 100% compression of all my files....unfortunately there was a problem with the decompression algorithm and I lost my data

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kormoc:

random google says http://www.detronizator.org/2006/04/26/howto-defragment-xfs/

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jarle:

javatexan: http://www.detronizator.org/2006/04/26/howto-defragment-xfs/

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** cesman wonders when #mythtv-users because a search engine... **

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cesman:

s/because/became

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jarle:

kormoc: you picked the same google result as me :)

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kormoc:

cesman, I've thought of running a bot that takes the second line a new person says, googles it, and returns the first hit to them

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kormoc:

jarle, seemed the most relevant :)

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jarle:

kormoc: this was not the first hit :)

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javatexan:

yeah I saw that one too.

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kormoc:

jarle, sure it is, http://www.google.com/search?q=howto+defrag+xfs

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** jarle did not include "howto" in the search.. **

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kormoc:

jarle, amusingly enough, http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&hl=en&a . . . ;btnG=Search

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kormoc:

gives a even better page on the subject as the first link

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javatexan:

did you read some of those....I wouldnt trust their knowledge to safely pull buggers out of my dog's nose much less something like this

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kormoc:

javatexan, it seems simple enough for you to verify that it's correct via man pages...

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javatexan:

i think this one might work http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XFS_Filesystem

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** kormoc laughs **

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kormoc:

it's the same info on all three pages...

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iamlindoro:

Well yeah, if you want to make willful and deliberate ignorance a *bad* thing...

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Aval0n:

damn it

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Aval0n:

ever since I installed apt-get install libavcodec-dev

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Aval0n:

I get /usr/include/glib-2.0/../libavcodec/avcodec.h:2479:5: error: missing binary operator before token "("

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Aval0n:

I even removed it and got same thing

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Aval0n:

arrg

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Aval0n:

I get that error compiling mythtv svn

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iamlindoro:

Aval0n: mkdir ~/libavstuff && mv /usr/include/libav* ~/libavstuff

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Aval0n:

k

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iamlindoro:

then make again

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Aval0n:

ok thanks

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Aval0n:

iamlindoro_: I had better results with internal player with mkv after I updated to ffmpeg svn

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Aval0n:

the make still broke iamlindoro

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Aval0n:

grrr

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iamlindoro:

Aval0n: I think you're imagining things

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iamlindoro:

because myth uses it's own ffmpeg

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iamlindoro:

and not any external copy

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Aval0n:

maybe it was the reboot

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Aval0n:

:)

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Aval0n:

grrr

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Aval0n:

different error thoough now

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Aval0n:

linuxfirewiredevice.cpp:20:32: error: libavc1394/avc1394.h: No such file or directory

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Aval0n:

ahh it moved that with the last command eh

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iamlindoro:

mv ~/libavstuff/libavc1394 /usr/include

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iamlindoro:

then it should go fine

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iamlindoro:

all you really needed to move to do the fix was libavcodec/device/format/util

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Aval0n:

ahh

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Aval0n:

iamlindoro_: I notice direct3d is an option for video renderer on playback profles

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Aval0n:

that actually works under linux?

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iamlindoro:

For windows only, obviously

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kormoc:

win32 frontend only

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Aval0n:

I didn't even know mythtv had a windows front end

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Aval0n:

is that new?

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** iamlindoro had nightmares that include that kind of thing **

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iamlindoro:

and they all came true...

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kormoc:

it's new and not stable or anything yet

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Aval0n:

crazy

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Aval0n:

so best renderer for linux is still standard?

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Aval0n:

ffmpeg?

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Aval0n:

or sv-blit I mean

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Aval0n:

xv-blit

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kormoc:

if there was a best, there'd be only one option

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iamlindoro:

I prefer opengl, but it has a few showstoppers for me for the moment

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Aval0n:

yeah

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Aval0n:

what's it do for you

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Aval0n:

last time I set it opengl it constantly crashed my system

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iamlindoro:

Well, it's never crashed for me, but it interacts badly with current nVidia drivers and makes TV watching a one-time proposition

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iamlindoro:

Which can be fixed by rolling back to 100. series, but I haven't bothered to this point

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Aval0n:

oh

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iamlindoro:

When it does work, it's by far the prettiest

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SlicerDicer:

Beirdo: you here?

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** iamlindoro can't stand to be faced with his own laziness and goes to roll back the nVidia driver **

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Yahooadam:

Hey guys, i have the same TV channels off 2 different sources, is there a way to let mythtv know that 2 channels are the same, just over 2 different sources?

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|Torg|:

xmlids

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Yahooadam:

?

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Yahooadam:

i think i have that set already, but the channel still shows up twice on the listings

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kormoc:

same channel number?

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|Torg|:

becase there are two channels

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Yahooadam:

Lets say i have BBC1 on sky and BBC1 on dvb – can mythtv not just show me BBC1 once – although still realise that it can record on 2 different tuners?

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kormoc:

same channel number?

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|Torg|:

xmltv id is how thye are linked to listings, but a channel on one listing is a sperate entity from one on another

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** kormoc points out the 'GROUP BY channum' chunk of the database queries **

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Yahooadam:

ok

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Yahooadam:

ill look at that then ;)

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Yahooadam:

thanks

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DustyBin:

if you live in the UK, dont forget to set your mythbox to record this

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mkargar_:

hello!since of installed and runing mythtv in kubuntu, in the menu section,i have not ''Capture'' section for setting my Skystar 2!!!?

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DustyBin:

Stephen Hawking:

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DustyBin:

Master of the Universe

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DustyBin:

Mon, Mar 10, 09:00 PM to 10:00 PM (60 mins

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DustyBin:

Channel 4

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kormoc:

Master of the Universe? By the power of greyskull?

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DustyBin:

lol

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Yahooadam:

lol

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javatexan:

sounds political instead of scientific

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DustyBin:

Prof Stephen Hawking explores the mysteries of physics by taking us on a two-part journey through the universe and looking at how far our understanding of it has developed. (Stereo)

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Yahooadam:

ok, i ran mythfilldatabase earlier, and its added in the channels i havent set (or in some cases, that i do)

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Yahooadam:

how does mythfilldatabase decide if a channel is in the database?

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javatexan:

in stereo eh.....how will he do that? LOL

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Yahooadam:

it cant do it by callsign, it must not be doing it by name

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kormoc:

use quantum mechanics to be in two places at once?

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Yahooadam:

its not done by channum :s

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mkargar_:

please reading:http://pastebin.ca/935974

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Yahooadam:

oh, nvm

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|Torg|:

mkargar_: did you read what you posted? Perhaps you should read the installation instructions?

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mkargar_:

ITorgi:my problem not install mythtv!

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iamlindoro_:

In mkargar_'s defense, there probably exist no instructions in his language... mkargar_, you need to define your card in mythtv-setup before you run mythbackend. run mythtv-setup from the terminal, and go through *all* the steps there

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kormoc:

and likely kill the already running process

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iamlindoro_:

mkargar_: kormoc is right, you will probably need to killall mythbackend before you go in to mythtv-setup

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Deek:

iamlindoro: except 100.x has broken Xv.

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iamlindoro_:

Deek: 100.14.11's Xv works fine, it's anything later than that up to 167.xx that doesn't work

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DustyBin:

opensuse makes one lovely desktop, ive installed freetype2 so sub pixel rendered fonts are used, this is the first time ive ever experienced compiz working how it should, fast,smooth and slick

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iamlindoro_:

ie >110.14.19 and < 167.07

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iamlindoro_:

er >= on that first one

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mkargar_:

ok!how to killall mythbackend?

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iamlindoro_:

mkargar_: sudo killall mythbackend

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DustyBin:

pkill mythbackend

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Yahooadam:

sudo /etc/init.d/myth-backend stop

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Yahooadam:

sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop #

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Beirdo:

SlicerDicer, what's up?

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Aval0n:

are the nvidia drivers from apt-get old probably?

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Aval0n:

iamlindoro_: what drivers are you running?

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iamlindoro_:

Aval0n: I don't use apt to get my nvidia stuff, they are wayyyy too old in general, although there may have been an update recently... I am running 100.14.11

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iamlindoro_:

Anything newer will not work properly with the OpenGL renderer

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mkargar_:

i do it's!but...:please read:http://pastebin.ca/935984

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Aval0n:

do you think I may see better perfomance with my h264 stuff with newer drivers

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iamlindoro_:

mkargar_: That's fine, now do all the steps in mythtv-setup

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Aval0n:

where do you get your nvidia drivers from iamlindoro?

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iamlindoro_:

Aval0n: None of the drivers will make a lick of difference with h.264

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iamlindoro_:

Aval0n: nvidia.com

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Aval0n:

k

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Yahooadam:

mkargar_ – you need a screen

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Aval0n:

so that wouldn't fix my skipping eh

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Aval0n:

I wonder if another gig of ram would

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Yahooadam:

oh wait

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Aval0n:

I only have 1gb currently, what do you think iamlindoro?

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mkargar_:

screen?!!

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iamlindoro_:

Aval0n: It won't help you enough that a P4 will suddenly become enough :)

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Aval0n:

hah!

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Aval0n:

;)

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iamlindoro_:

mkargar_: mythtv-setup needs to be run within a window manager like Gnome, etc.

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Yahooadam:

./usr/bin/mythtv-setup: 38: xterm: not found

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Aval0n:

mplayer plays it perfect if I leave it alone

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Aval0n:

but if I ffwed audio/video loses sync

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Yahooadam:

if that computer doesnt have a display manager and stuff, you can use X forwarding over SSH

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Yahooadam:

SSH -XYC user@computer.ip.addr sudo mythtv-setup

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iamlindoro_:

Yahooadam: Unless you speak farsi, I wouldn't get too complicated

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DustyBin:

if i was to create a new theme, could i just use a existing theme and replace all the images with new artwork keeping the exact dimensions / resolutions etc

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Yahooadam:

x forwarding isnt that complicated ;)

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iamlindoro_:

Yahooadam: But there is *no* reason to offer multiple options when someone's knowledge of english is already minimal

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mkargar_:

Yahooadam!I'm confused!

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iamlindoro_:

mkargar_: Do you have Xorg installed on your Myth system?

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Yahooadam:

lol

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mkargar_:

ok!I using Kubuntu!

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mkargar_:

Xorg in instaleed!

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iamlindoro_:

mkargar_: OK, that's fine.. so you have KDE, right?

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mkargar_:

ok!KDE 3.5.9!

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iamlindoro_:

ok

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iamlindoro_:

Are you running mythtv-setup from KDE?

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mkargar_:

yes!

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directhex:

mythtv-setup.real on ubuntu

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iamlindoro_:

mkargar_: ok, let's try this: sudo apt-get install xterm

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directhex:

mythtv-setup is a wrapper script which ensures group permissions and no running instances, and runs inside an xterm to ensure you can do xmltv config if needed

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iamlindoro_:

or directhex's way

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Yahooadam:

mkargar_ – instead of typing mythtv-setup, type mythtv-setup.real

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iamlindoro_:

mkargar_: Once you get mythtv-setup working, go to: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html and follow the directions that start with "The backend setup program will start and offer you a number of choices. It is strongly recommended that you go through them in order."

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mkargar_:

very THX all friend!my problem sloved!

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mkargar_:

i tapying mythtv-setup.real!

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iamlindoro_:

directhex: I got off my ass and reverted to the old nVidia drivers, now I have all the OpenGL pretties

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Yahooadam:

hey what, wait a minuite, mythtv 0.21 has been released – damn i so far behind

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nettow0822:

b

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Yahooadam:

oh, it was released a few days ago, thats ok then :p

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[Soul]:

Anybody ever gotten a WinTV PVR USB 2 to work? I am using pvrusb2 and was able to scan channels, but when i go to watch tv, it goes black for a bit and then returns to the menu

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mkargar_:

Yahooadam:very very THX for help me:)

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mkargar_:

and all dear friends!

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Yahooadam:

" Reduced mythfrontend memory consumption by upto 75% depending on theme and resolution." – wow

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Yahooadam:

does it work on the xbox now then? :D

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Yahooadam:

Added the ability to continue playing music in the background. – yey :)

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Yahooadam:

i need to get 0.21 :p

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directhex:

Yahooadam, the memory reduction is only that big on "big" themes

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Yahooadam:

fair enough

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Yahooadam:

itd be nice to make use of my xbox, but ill get over it :p

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lanuser:

Hello – Anyone know if the new 0.21 version includes flash based web playback in MythWeb? Or is that still only in SVN?

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cesman:

lanuser: yes, it does

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emja:

anyone know of any current problems with poster retrieval via imdb.pl?

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cesman:

you however have to enable it in the settings in mythweb

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lanuser:

cesman thanks, and SWEET!

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cesman:

yw

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cesman:

emja: worked fine last night

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directhex:

you need an ffmpeg executable with mp3 support compiled in

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cesman:

or was that early this morning...

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emja:

cesman: hmm... problem must be local on my machine then, thanks

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Ozymandias2:

when I click "Scan for gameS" in myth games, the pop up is too fast to read, and no games appear in my menu.. is there any way to find out what it pop up says, and why it is not finding the game in the directory I confgured my player to look in?

[01:54:18]

emja:

I installed the mythfrontend on a desktop, but *all* the metadata for my videos was flushed from the database

[01:54:39]

emja:

flushed from the mythtv backend server

[01:55:10]

cesman:

emja: the path to the videos must be the same on both systems

[01:55:13]

emja:

now I can't retrieve posters. says that a poster exists, but timed out trying to retrieve it

[01:55:19]

emja:

cesman: yep, it is

[01:55:26]

[Soul]:

if i scanned w/ a device for /dev/video0 through the backend, and i can do mplayer -v /dev/video0 and get a tv feed, is there a reason mythtv frontend can't watch tv?

[01:56:34]

mkargar_:

yahooadam:what's different between mythtv-setup.real and mythtv-setup?

[01:56:40]

lanuser:

For IVTV cards, is there anything available at ivtvdriver.org (other than the firmware) that is newere than the support provided by the latest kernel source at kernel.org ?

[01:57:27]

Yahooadam:

mkargar_ – [quote] directhex: mythtv-setup is a wrapper script which ensures group permissions and no running instances, and runs inside an xterm to ensure you can do xmltv config if needed [/quote]

[01:58:03]

directhex:

it also launches mythfilldatabase for you, and restarts the backend daemon when setup is complete

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Yahooadam:

ive never had a need for it to run mythfilldatabase, cos it makes such a hash of getting sky channels :p

[02:02:17]

mkargar_:

Yahooadam:OH!Very THX

[02:02:27]

mkargar_:

i knowing!

[02:02:43]

Yahooadam:

why are you thanking me, thank directhex :p

[02:02:43]

mkargar_:

i knowed!

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mkargar_:

because you are helped me!:)

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cesman:

[Soul]: take a look at your logs

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mkargar_:

good bye!

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Yahooadam:

cya, enjoy

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Yahooadam:

no apprieciation ey directhex ;)

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directhex:

i'm used to it

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Yahooadam:

probably best to goto bed now, ill continue with this damn channels table some other time lol

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DustyBin:

mythtv has been on for 8 hours, not one 'Unable to display video' error message

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iamlindoro_:

Heh, "We are continuing our workstation graphics investigation and we will be delivering more benchmarks in the coming days as we turn our focus to ATI/AMD and their high-end FireGL solutions under Linux and we will deliver comparative Windows results." How does one compare nothing to something?

[04:03:09]

sentinel23:

lol awesome

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noige:

hey

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noige:

anyone know of a decent RTSP server for *nix?

[04:23:36]

cesman:

VLC

[04:23:51]

noige:

VLC serves RTSP

[04:23:53]

noige:

ok

[04:24:16]

Tanthrix:

iamlindoro: My search for the perfect compression tool has ended, I think: http://www.shopjavaco.com/page/shopjavaco/PRO . . . -5000UNV-659

[04:24:21]

noige:

when you setup the RTSP stream dont you have to use a remote client as the receipt string?

[04:24:34]

noige:

maybe 127.0.0.1 will work eh?

[04:25:29]

Tanthrix:

iamlindoro: Was talking with a pro satellite guy and he says Cable Prep is the way to go if you're silly like me and get off on owning finely crafted, far better than you'll ever need tools.

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CCFL_Man2:

Tanthrix: cable prep?

[04:33:27]

Tanthrix:

CCFL_Man2: Have a brand that you recommend better?

[04:34:02]

CCFL_Man2:

but what do you mean by cable prep?

[04:34:26]

Tanthrix:

Oh, it's a brand. Check the above link. Or this: http://www.cableprep.com/term.htm

[04:34:38]

CCFL_Man2:

oh, of tools?

[04:34:53]

Tanthrix:

I'm going to redo all the coax in my house, so I've been looking for a nice set of tools for working with RG6 (compression tool, stripper, etc..)

[04:35:12]

Tanthrix:

They look damned spiffy to me, and about a thousand times better than all the other ones I've seen.

[04:35:32]

CCFL_Man2:

i need a good compression tool, the rat shit shack one i have is shitty

[04:35:53]

CCFL_Man2:

how expensive?

[04:36:22]

Tanthrix:

Around $60, few bucks more for the non-pocket version.

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CCFL_Man2:

not bad

[04:37:10]

CCFL_Man2:

it's a good price for a tool you'll buy once

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Tanthrix:

Indeed.

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xris:

I really need to redo some of the coax.. accidentally pulled it under a pipe in my crawl space instead of over it.

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Tanthrix:

I hate when I do stuff like that.

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xris:

just need to borrow something to add connectors, though.. cut, add connectors, splice.

[04:49:26]

xris:

or be lazy and staple it up so the next owner of the house doesn't really notice it.

[04:50:25]

xris:

wasn't me who made the mistake, though... I talked the dishnetwork guy into pulling stuff through my crawl space if I would help him.

[04:50:54]

xris:

much better than comcast. I had to do all of the in-wall work myself, even though I was paying THEM to do the install

[04:51:24]

xris:

they're not allowed to fish wire, and I wasn't about to let the guy drill through the siding on my house TWICE to go from the crawl space into the room.

[04:53:37]

Tanthrix:

That's why I'm going to do it, to recover from Comcast's bangup staple job.

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robbins876:

I HATE LIRC

[05:00:19]

orthoevra:

hmm daylight savings change messed up my program guide

[05:00:21]

robbins876:

what a pain in the ass this install is...every time.

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robbins876:

and i never remember how i got it to work the time before

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robbins876:

i remember always having to install something from the CVS, but i dont' know what

[05:01:02]

robbins876:

oh well, i'll feel my way through ti

[05:07:10]

robbins876:

oh...my...god...

[05:07:12]

robbins876:

it works!

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robbins876:

yeah!

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robbins876:

I'm following wilsons guide and when I get to this point, I run into this issue

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robbins876:

[root@localhost lirc]# mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.21/database/mc.sql

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robbins876:

bash: /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.21/database/mc.sql: No such file or directory

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Tanthrix:

robbins876: Just means the mc.sql file isn't there. Do "locate mc.sql" to find it. Maybe updatedb first.

[05:14:55]

robbins876:

Tanthrix, locate returns nothing

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Tanthrix:

Did you run updatedb first?

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robbins876:

nope

[05:15:20]

robbins876:

i don't know how to do that

[05:15:31]

robbins876:

just run that command?

[05:16:25]

robbins876:

alright, i foudn it

[05:16:37]

robbins876:

so what should i do? move that file to where the command expects it to be?

[05:16:50]

Tanthrix:

No. Just update the command to point to the right thing.

[05:17:25]

Tanthrix:

What you're doing essentially is importing a fresh myth db into your actual database. Doesn't matter where it comes from, or where it goes afterwards.

[05:17:34]

robbins876:

alright

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robbins876:

that was straight forward enough

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Tanthrix:

And just so you know, updatedb is what updates the search database. It probably runs on your system automatically, but if you just download something new you'll want to run the command first before searching.

[05:18:10]

robbins876:

that's a really handy tricky

[05:18:15]

robbins876:

i'd never seen it before

[05:20:20]

sshirley:

Hi everyone. For VLC (for MythVideo), where is the best place for lirc definitions to be made? #~/.vlc/vlcrc? Or is there somewhere else?

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Viaken:

Is it possible to set it to playback with the cubic interpolation deinterlacer? It's not one of the menu options... for the custom filters, would I put "-vf pp=ci" or just "pp=ci" or....?

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sshirley:

lircrc maybe?

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Tanthrix:

Viaken: Won't hurt anyting to give it a try. Don't know if myth supports those though. You'll probably want to run SVN though – lot a new deinterlacers added recently.

[05:24:20]

Viaken:

Oh right..I forgot it's not using mplayer. lol

[05:25:13]

sshirley:

Hi everyone. For VLC (for MythVideo), where is the best place for lirc definitions to be made? #~/.vlc/vlcrc? Or is there somewhere else? lircrc maybe?

[05:27:33]

Tanthrix:

sshirley: Wherever VLC expects it to be. Check their website.

[05:27:34]

matty-:

create a symlink

[05:28:16]

orthoevra:

so if my guide was correct, then DLS happened and now its off by an hour do i have to adjust my time offset in myth setup?

[05:29:54]

robbins876:

where does myth expect to find lircrc?

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sshirley:

robbins876: I believe in #~

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Viaken:

What's easier on the CPU between RTjpeg and MPEG-4?

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robbins876:

in what?

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sshirley:

The main users home directory

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robbins876:

I have video in mythtv live tv, but no sound

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robbins876:

any ideas?

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matty-:

mythtv <0.21 only reads from ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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ipso:

When I try to run mythfronend I get the following error: mythfrontend: Fatal IO error: client killed Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy. But it doesn't say WHICH resource. Any ideas what the issue is?

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robbins876:

figured it out

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robbins876:

i should try to figure things out before i ask

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robbins876:

man, this new myth is much nicer than the garbage i had installed before

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Viaken:

Can I nice the transcode jobs?

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** Viaken can probably find that one with Google. >.> **

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robbins876:

i can't find where to place this lircrc file

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Deek:

Viaken: they usually already are niced.

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Viaken:

ah, ok

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Viaken:

robbins876: /home/.lircrc or /etc/lircrc

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Viaken:

woop

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Viaken:

/home/$USER/.lircrc

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Viaken:

sorry

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clever:

i thought it was $HOME/.lircrc

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robbins876:

so i have my lircrc

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robbins876:

i need to put it in /home/$USER/.lircrc?

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Viaken:

Yeah

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Viaken:

clever: $HOME and /home/$USER are the same thing.

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clever:

not normaly

[05:47:32]

clever:

one of my myth boxes had $HOME as /media/disk/mythtv/

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clever:

which breaks that statement

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matty-:

that's normal?

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clever:

and still functions just fine

[05:47:57]

clever:

i meant to say not allways

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clever:

home folders dont HAVE to be in /home/username/

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robbins876:

should .lircrc be a directory in my folder?

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robbins876:

home directory, i mean

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robbins876:

because i dont' have it

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robbins876:

nor do i have .mythtv

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clever:

its a file in your mythtv's home directory

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robbins876:

i have /root/.mythtv/

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robbins876:

but nothing in /home/robbins876/

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xris:

robbins876: ~/.lircrc *and* (I usually symlink) ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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defaultro:

btw guys, I love the new mythmusic :)

[05:50:39]

clever:

defaultro: how new is i?

[05:50:39]

clever:

t

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defaultro:

the music playing in the background, I love it

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clever:

ahh

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robbins876:

clever, within ~/lircrc i have a directory /root/lircrc

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clever:

thats been about for a little while

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defaultro:

even if we exit the music interface

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robbins876:

do i put it in there? Or just in ~/lircrc?

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defaultro:

ok, I didn't have it on 0.20.2

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clever:

its .lircrc

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clever:

with the .

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clever:

and its a file!

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robbins876:

i don't get it!

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robbins876:

so i need ot make a lircrc file

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robbins876:

and mv it ~/.lircrc

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robbins876:

?

[05:52:12]

clever:

someedited ~/.lircrd

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clever:

someedited ~/.lircrc

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clever:

that will open it up(replace someeditor with the name of a text editor)

[05:52:29]

robbins876:

maybe i'm just tired, but i do not get it

[05:52:38]

robbins876:

oh, i get it

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defaultro:

The movietime is cool though. Is movietime capable of pulling the jpeg image of the movie?

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robbins876:

clever, after i make those files, do i need to restart anything?

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defaultro:

you need to restart mf

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clever:

just the lirc client

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clever:

which in this case is mythfrontend

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robbins876:

i'm still getting nothing in mythfrontend from my remote

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defaultro:

ps ax|grep lirc

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defaultro:

please

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robbins876:

[root@localhost .mythtv]# ps ax|grep lirc

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robbins876:

853 ? S< 0:00 [lirc_dev]

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robbins876:

23398 ? Ss 0:00 lircd

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robbins876:

23423 pts/2 R+ 0:00 grep lirc

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defaultro:

ls -l /dev/lirc*

[05:56:47]

robbins876:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2008-03–09 21:24 /dev/lirc -> lirc0

[05:56:47]

robbins876:

crw-rw---- 1 root root 61, 0 2008-03–09 21:24 /dev/lirc0

[05:56:47]

robbins876:

srw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-03–09 23:55 /dev/lircd

[05:56:47]

robbins876:

prw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-03–09 23:04 /dev/lircm

[05:56:52]

defaultro:

and lsmod|grep lirc

[05:57:18]

robbins876:

bash: lsmod: command not found

[05:57:36]

defaultro:

what os are you running?

[05:57:40]

robbins876:

fedora

[05:57:44]

defaultro:

hmmmm

[05:57:48]

defaultro:

something is not right

[05:57:55]

robbins876:

/usr/bin/irw outputs just fine

[05:57:56]

defaultro:

lsmod is usually installed by default

[05:58:03]

defaultro:

ls -l /etc/lirc*

[05:58:16]

robbins876:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4759 2008-03–09 23:04 /etc/lircd.conf

[05:58:25]

defaultro:

did you tell lirc to read that file?

[05:58:44]

defaultro:

tell me how you run lircd

[05:59:18]

orthoevra:

ok seriously.. what do i need to do to get my guide back on time after daylight savings change?? i have tried rebuilding channels and re-running mythfilldatabase and no luck

[05:59:21]

ipso:

When I try to run mythfronend I get the following error: mythfrontend: Fatal IO error: client killed Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy. But it doesn't say WHICH resource. Any ideas what the issue is? The strange thing mythfrontend starts fine if I ssh to my mythtv box from another computer and run it remotely.

[05:59:25]

robbins876:

i have it running at boot

[05:59:33]

robbins876:

but i can start it using /sbin/service lircd start

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defaultro:

i run it this way, /usr/local/lirc/sbin/lircd /etc/lircd.conf --device=/dev/lirc0

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defaultro:

ah, one more

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defaultro:

ldd /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend |grep lirc

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defaultro:

tell me the output

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robbins876:

ldd: /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend: No such file or directory

[06:01:42]

defaultro:

which mythfrontend please

[06:01:57]

cva:

orthoevra: just a thought, is your timezone set correctly?

[06:01:59]

robbins876:

0.21?

[06:02:04]

defaultro:

no

[06:02:05]

defaultro:

LOL

[06:02:11]

defaultro:

execute which mythfrontend

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defaultro:

which is a command

[06:02:20]

defaultro:

:P

[06:02:24]

robbins876:

/usr/bin/mythfrontend

[06:02:35]

defaultro:

ldd /usr/bin/mythfrontend |grep lirc

[06:02:41]

robbins876:

liblirc_client.so.0 => /usr/lib/liblirc_client.so.0 (0x050b3000)

[06:02:56]

robbins876:

i think i just need a lircrc

[06:03:03]

robbins876:

but, you'll probably get to that

[06:03:04]

defaultro:

oh, you don't have it?

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Floppe:

=)

[06:03:04]

orthoevra:

cva: yeah everything was spot on till time change last night, now the guide is off by an hour even tho myth shows correc ttime :(

[06:03:15]

robbins876:

defaultro, nah, i don't know where to put it

[06:03:19]

defaultro:

oh

[06:03:22]

robbins876:

like i said, /usr/bin/irw works just fine

[06:03:24]

defaultro:

who is running mythbackend

[06:03:26]

defaultro:

listen

[06:03:39]

robbins876:

i just can't get it to talk to myth

[06:03:42]

defaultro:

listen

[06:03:45]

defaultro:

answer please

[06:03:54]

defaultro:

which account is running mythbackend and mf

[06:03:56]

robbins876:

oh, root

[06:03:57]

robbins876:

duh

[06:03:58]

robbins876:

my bad

[06:04:00]

defaultro:

ok

[06:04:03]

defaultro:

put it in

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defaultro:

here /root/.mythtv/lircrc

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robbins876:

i did that

[06:04:53]

defaultro:

paste your lircrc in nopaste.com please

[06:05:05]

defaultro:

i guess, you need to specify lircd.conf too

[06:05:08]

robbins876:

from /root/.mythtv/lircrc?

[06:05:12]

defaultro:

yes

[06:05:22]

defaultro:

so we can look if proper

[06:05:33]

defaultro:

but you might have to restart lircd to specify lircd.conf

[06:05:43]

robbins876:

http://nopaste.com/p/a2HZqnZVab

[06:06:06]

defaultro:

ps ax|grep irexec

[06:06:46]

robbins876:

just a minute

[06:06:57]

defaultro:

that should be quick :)

[06:07:39]

robbins876:

23655 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep irexec

[06:07:43]

defaultro:

:(

[06:07:48]

defaultro:

that one will fail then

[06:07:53]

defaultro:

the first one will not work

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robbins876:

what first one?

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defaultro:

i mean, on your lircrv

[06:08:01]

defaultro:

i mean, on your lircrc

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defaultro:

begin

[06:08:07]

defaultro:

prog = irexec

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defaultro:

button = Power

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defaultro:

repeat = 3

[06:08:07]

defaultro:

config = /home/mythtv/bin/mythstart.sh

[06:08:08]

defaultro:

#config = Key Alt-Escape CurrentWindow

[06:08:10]

defaultro:

end

[06:08:13]

defaultro:

that one will fail

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defaultro:

irexec needs to be running

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robbins876:

oh

[06:08:36]

defaultro:

but for the other parts, try rerunning lircd with /etc/lircd.conf

[06:08:49]

robbins876:

how do i do that?

[06:08:51]

defaultro:

mine is, /usr/local/lirc/sbin/lircd /etc/lircd.conf --device=/dev/lirc0

[06:08:52]

robbins876:

just restart lircd?

[06:08:59]

defaultro:

let's do it one by one

[06:09:05]

defaultro:

killall -TERM lircd

[06:09:08]

defaultro:

do that

[06:09:15]

defaultro:

it should kill lircd

[06:09:18]

robbins876:

done

[06:09:26]

defaultro:

then do a ps ax|grep lircd to make sure it's killed

[06:09:40]

robbins876:

23660 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep lircd

[06:09:42]

defaultro:

then which lircd

[06:09:58]

robbins876:

/usr/bin/which: no lircd in (/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/b in:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/robbins876/bin)

[06:10:06]

defaultro:

hmmm

[06:10:11]

defaultro:

you don't have lircd?

[06:10:16]

robbins876:

i do

[06:10:19]

defaultro:

find /usr -name 'lircd'

[06:10:23]

robbins876:

because /usr/bin/irw works just fine

[06:10:32]

defaultro:

i'm asking you dude

[06:10:37]

robbins876:

oh

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defaultro:

find where your lircd is

[06:10:46]

defaultro:

forget about that irw

[06:10:55]

robbins876:

but it's my crowning glory!

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defaultro:

I don't understand what you just said

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robbins876:

/usr/sbin/lircd

[06:11:08]

robbins876:

/usr/local/sbin/lircd

[06:11:12]

defaultro:

cool

[06:11:15]

defaultro:

now type this

[06:11:30]

defaultro:

this one, /usr/local/sbin/lircd /etc/lircd.conf --device=/dev/lirc0

[06:11:46]

robbins876:

k

[06:11:46]

defaultro:

let me know if it doesn't go back to prompt

[06:11:54]

defaultro:

did it go back to the prompt?

[06:11:56]

robbins876:

it goes to prompt

[06:11:58]

defaultro:

cool

[06:12:00]

defaultro:

ps ax|grep lircd

[06:12:16]

robbins876:

23666 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/local/sbin/lircd /etc/lircd.conf --device=/dev/lirc0

[06:12:16]

robbins876:

23668 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep lircd

[06:12:19]

defaultro:

sweet

[06:12:28]

defaultro:

ls -l /usr/local/sbin/ire*

[06:12:53]

robbins876:

ls: cannot access /usr/local/sbin/ire*: No such file or directory

[06:13:02]

defaultro:

which irexec

[06:13:24]

robbins876:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11870 2008-03–09 23:04 /usr/local/bin/irexec

[06:13:27]

defaultro:

cool

[06:13:33]

defaultro:

killall -TERM irexec

[06:13:40]

defaultro:

then /usr/local/bin/irexec &

[06:13:51]

defaultro:

then ps ax|grep irexec

[06:14:08]

robbins876:

23674 pts/1 S 0:00 /usr/local/bin/irexec

[06:14:08]

robbins876:

23676 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep irexec

[06:14:13]

defaultro:

sweet

[06:14:18]

defaultro:

killall -TERM mythfrontend

[06:14:25]

defaultro:

then rerun mythfrontend

[06:14:33]

robbins876:

as root?

[06:14:37]

defaultro:

yes

[06:14:47]

defaultro:

because that;s where you have lircrc file

[06:14:50]

robbins876:

k, it's up

[06:14:56]

robbins876:

hooray remote

[06:14:57]

defaultro:

try your remote now

[06:15:04]

defaultro:

it works?

[06:15:06]

robbins876:

yep

[06:15:11]

robbins876:

you had doubts?

[06:15:12]

defaultro:

lircd.conf is the problem then

[06:15:15]

defaultro:

no

[06:15:16]

defaultro:

:)

[06:15:20]

defaultro:

fix your startup script

[06:15:25]

defaultro:

you should be good

[06:15:31]

cva:

is anyone successfully using the hr.hdtv script as a job withing mythv? It works great from the command line, but I'm missing the syntax to have it run as a job.

[06:15:36]

robbins876:

wait a minute, you lost me.

[06:15:43]

defaultro:

where?

[06:15:48]

robbins876:

fix my startup script

[06:15:57]

defaultro:

your lircd in startup does not specify /etc/lircd.conf

[06:16:10]

defaultro:

so when your machine reboots, your remote will not work again

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defaultro:

so you have to correct your lircd start up script

[06:16:44]

defaultro:

are you using /etc/rc.d/init.d?

[06:16:46]

robbins876:

i don't know that i have one of those

[06:16:52]

defaultro:

yes you do

[06:16:56]

robbins876:

no, i haven't set that up

[06:17:13]

defaultro:

because earlier, you were telling me that you are going to restart lircd using service lircd up something

[06:17:35]

defaultro:

so when you execute service, it calls the file in /etc/rc.d/init.d

[06:17:54]

defaultro:

ls -l /etc/rc.d/init.d/lirc*

[06:17:57]

robbins876:

i don't remember how i had it set up before

[06:18:08]

robbins876:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1702 2007-11–12 16:06 /etc/rc.d/init.d/lircd

[06:18:11]

defaultro:

:) it's your first assignment to fix it

[06:18:17]

defaultro:

that's pretty simple

[06:18:31]

defaultro:

so don't close your chat window, save all our chat

[06:18:51]

defaultro:

just edit /etc/rc.d/init.d/lircd

[06:18:58]

robbins876:

what do i need to edit in this thing?

[06:18:59]

defaultro:

and tell it to use /etc/lircd.conf

[06:19:11]

defaultro:

you have to tell it to use /etc/lircd.conf

[06:19:46]

defaultro:

do you rememeber, you ran it with /usr/local/sbin/lircd /etc/lircd.conf --device=/dev/lirc0

[06:19:54]

defaultro:

that's how you will modify it in that file

[06:20:17]

robbins876:

http://nopaste.com/p/asjT3ssYX

[06:20:19]

defaultro:

then you can also include on that file at the end, /usr/local/bin/irexec &

[06:21:33]

robbins876:

see that file?

[06:21:40]

orthoevra:

this is bull S no matter what time offset i choose in setup nothing changes in guide

[06:21:44]

defaultro:

the culprit could be $LIRCD_OPTIONS

[06:22:02]

defaultro:

comment this out daemon lircd $LIRCD_OPTIONS

[06:22:10]

defaultro:

and put whatever I told you

[06:22:56]

robbins876:

alright...how can i test it?

[06:23:08]

defaultro:

did you add irexec as well

[06:23:20]

robbins876:

just put that at the end then a blank carriage line?

[06:23:43]

defaultro:

put it before RETVAL

[06:23:48]

defaultro:

so you'll have 2 new lines

[06:23:56]

defaultro:

and the existing one should be commented out

[06:24:08]

robbins876:

RETVAL=1

[06:24:10]

robbins876:

comment that out?

[06:24:23]

robbins876:

and put the /usr/local/bin/irexec & thing?

[06:24:23]

defaultro:

OMG :(

[06:24:27]

defaultro:

yes

[06:24:39]

defaultro:

comment this out, daemon lircd $LIRCD_OPTIONS

[06:24:51]

defaultro:

then put /usr/local/sbin/lircd /etc/lircd.conf --device=/dev/lirc0

[06:24:55]

robbins876:

i did that

[06:25:00]

defaultro:

and also put /usr/local/bin/irexec &

[06:25:02]

defaultro:

then save it

[06:25:13]

robbins876:

i do not understand where to put that part

[06:25:14]

defaultro:

nopaste it please

[06:25:18]

defaultro:

huh

[06:25:22]

defaultro:

just next line

[06:25:25]

defaultro:

press Enter key

[06:25:27]

defaultro:

LOL

[06:25:34]

robbins876:

ohhhh

[06:25:39]

robbins876:

right after that first thing i changed

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defaultro:

im doing it for you

[06:26:23]

defaultro:

i'm on your machine now

[06:26:24]

robbins876:

http://nopaste.com/p/a9bK8goLZ

[06:26:59]

defaultro:

here, http://nopaste.com/p/alzrgm8Ff

[06:27:10]

defaultro:

i also commented out the irexec in start()

[06:27:29]

defaultro:

yes, you got it correcgt

[06:27:37]

defaultro:

comment this out, daemon irexec --daemon /etc/irexec.conf

[06:27:50]

defaultro:

this is a daemon irexec --daemon /etc/irexec.conf

[06:27:55]

defaultro:

oooops

[06:28:12]

defaultro:

what we are doing is a dirty hack, not ideal but works ;)

[06:28:21]

defaultro:

you ready?

[06:28:21]

robbins876:

alright, done

[06:28:23]

robbins876:

now save?

[06:28:28]

defaultro:

yes, of course

[06:28:31]

defaultro:

:)

[06:28:36]

robbins876:

ok, i'm ready

[06:28:45]

defaultro:

type this, /etc/rc.d/init.d/lircd stop

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defaultro:

then ps ax|grep lircd

[06:29:03]

defaultro:

also ps ax|grep irexec

[06:29:10]

defaultro:

hopefully those 2 gets killed

[06:29:14]

robbins876:

24047 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep lircd

[06:29:18]

defaultro:

nice

[06:29:20]

robbins876:

24049 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep irexec

[06:29:22]

defaultro:

nice

[06:29:26]

defaultro:

type this, /etc/rc.d/init.d/lircd start

[06:29:38]

robbins876:

k

[06:29:45]

defaultro:

then ps ax|grep lircd

[06:29:47]

defaultro:

also ps ax|grep irexec

[06:29:56]

robbins876:

24056 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/local/sbin/lircd /etc/lircd.conf --device=/dev/lirc0

[06:29:56]

robbins876:

24060 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep lircd

[06:30:01]

defaultro:

schawing

[06:30:05]

robbins876:

24057 pts/1 S 0:00 /usr/local/bin/irexec

[06:30:05]

robbins876:

24062 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep irexec

[06:30:08]

defaultro:

badabing

[06:30:11]

defaultro:

restart mf

[06:30:14]

defaultro:

you should be good

[06:30:17]

robbins876:

as root

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robbins876:

?

[06:30:26]

defaultro:

as root of course

[06:30:29]

robbins876:

because my girlfriend won't run it as root

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defaultro:

or if you want mythtv, then it should work well but you will have to copy lircrc to /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc

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robbins876:

alright

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robbins876:

lircrc from?

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defaultro:

i think, that's your job now ;)

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robbins876:

~/.lircrc?

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defaultro:

yes

[06:31:34]

defaultro:

that should work too

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defaultro:

but your lircrc is too few

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robbins876:

i dont' have a /home/robbins876/mytht

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robbins876:

v

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defaultro:

i don't know

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defaultro:

you have to figure that out

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robbins876:

alright

[06:32:16]

robbins876:

i think i got it

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robbins876:

ahh hell

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robbins876:

nothing when i run as non-root

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robbins876:

even with the copied ~/.lircrc in /home/robbins876/.mythtv

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defaultro:

:(

[06:33:25]

defaultro:

should be ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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jsumners:

i just ordered parts to build a MythTV box this afternoon. i have a couple questions that i haven't been able to find answers to. 1) does the data from Schedules Direct indicate if a show is being broacast in HD? and if so does the MythTV guide show this? and 2) does the RSS module support downloading web tv shows? e.g. Rocketboom

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defaultro:

i can't monitor all the things you typed man

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defaultro:

gtg now

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robbins876:

lirc always makes me so angry

[06:34:20]

robbins876:

thanks so much for your time and patience

[06:34:24]

defaultro:

np

[06:34:31]

defaultro:

i love lirc so much

[06:34:37]

defaultro:

why does it make you angry?

[06:34:41]

robbins876:

because it never works

[06:34:43]

robbins876:

and still doesn't

[06:34:47]

defaultro:

huh

[06:34:49]

robbins876:

though it does as root

[06:34:54]

defaultro:

you just said earlier it worked

[06:34:55]

robbins876:

just not when i run it as non-root

[06:34:56]

defaultro:

oh

[06:34:58]

defaultro:

:)

[06:35:03]

robbins876:

i don't get it!

[06:35:07]

defaultro:

you'll figure it out

[06:35:10]

defaultro:

:)

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Dagmar:

pfft.

[06:35:27]

Dagmar:

Dumb configure script

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iamlindoro:

jsumners: 1) Yes. 2) There is no official RSS Plugin (although there in an unofficial one for which you will probably get little help here)

[06:36:32]

Dagmar:

Someone should have noticed this.

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iamlindoro:

Well, expanding on 2, presumably you're talking about MythStream which is unofficial but is a podcast client

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jsumners:

iamlindoro: thanks. i like the answer to 1. as for 2, i was referring to MythNews. are you talking about something different?

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jsumners:

oh, let me look into that

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iamlindoro:

jsumners: MythNews is text only

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Dagmar:

I don't suppose this broken configure test is already fixed

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iamlindoro:

Dagmar: I think there are a few tickets open for the configure script that are pretty recent, but don't believe any of them have been fixed yet

[06:40:04]

iamlindoro:

like #4882

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iamlindoro:

(which, at least, includes a patch)

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Dagmar:

Well, I'll have to think about if this is really worth fixing

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Dagmar:

The bit of code that tests the CPU-specific options is a bit retarded

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jsumners:

iamlindoro: MythStream looks like what i want. i'll have to play around with it when i get the machine built. thanks

[06:42:17]

iamlindoro:

jsumners: No problem, just be aware that since it's unofficial, it's a definite second-class citizen and if you don't get disdain about it, you'll probably get indifference in this particular channel :)

[06:42:29]

jsumners:

:)

[06:42:32]

jsumners:

no problem

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jsumners:

it's not a feature i am dying for. just one i would like to have

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jsumners:

nzb integration on the other hand ;)

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iamlindoro:

jsumners: You'll never see that or otrrents in myth (well, there used to be a torrent client, but that was in .11 and we're at .21)

[06:43:58]

iamlindoro:

and even then it was another "unoffical" plugin

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jsumners:

i know it's not available. it will be something i have to work on myself

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iamlindoro:

jsumners: The Myth devs go out of their way to discourage any association with piracy, I imagine you will earn the scorn of most of them if you do so-- does it hurt you so much to have to do it outside of myth?

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nemik:

does UPNP work on a PS3 for anyone using gutsy? i can't get the playstation to find the server

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iamlindoro:

nemik: Presuming you're running .21, it ought to work

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jsumners:

no. just would be nice to control it from the remote. and would provide for a fun summer project

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nemik:

iamlindoro: 0.20.20070821–1 the default gutsy package

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iamlindoro:

nemik: That's .20.2, and is now officially out of date

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iamlindoro:

I have some sincere doubts about .20.2 uPnP working with the PS3, I know that trunk/.21 does

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orthoevra:

bout ready to punch this computer

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nemik:

ok, i'll have to try that then. i hope there's packages for it...don't look forward to compiling :/

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orthoevra:

NONE of the timezone offsets i choose make any diff

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cva:

orthoevra: what timezone are you in?

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orthoevra:

cva: pacific time, my system is set for Los Angeles time

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orthoevra:

cva: but nomatter what.. my guide is always an hour off

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cva:

k, no weird timezones there

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iamlindoro:

Looks like .21 is in the mythbuntu repository, although presumably it'll eventually make its way into gutsy-backports

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cva:

so if you are watching live tv and hit guide is the time and the guide off?

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Dagmar:

ffs

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orthoevra:

cva: yeah, the guide shows the correct time, but all the shows are an hour ahead of where they should be

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cva:

ah ok

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orthoevra:

cva: is there a way to completely clear out my guide data so its like im setting it up for the first time? im trying mythfilldatabase --reset-all but no luck

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Dagmar:

Freaking --cpu gets turned into -march

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Dagmar:

That is definitely wrong

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iamlindoro:

Dagmar: There was some discussion in the dev channel at about 2 PM today regarding that issue, so presumably *someone* is on the case

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Dagmar:

I'm looking in trac now

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iamlindoro:

"superm1: hmm why is --tune=CPU spitting out --march=CPU when building?"

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cva:

mythfilldatabase --refresh-all

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Dagmar:

iamlindoro: 'cuz that whole chunk of code is broken

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Dagmar:

I've no idea how one would even manage that

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orthoevra:

hmm seems to not help.. maybe if i can delete my listings at datadirect and re-add?

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orthoevra:

schedules direct*

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iamlindoro:

"sphery: superm1: If it's the patch I'm thinking of ( http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/16329 ), it originated from a ticket by Cardoe ( http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3231 ), so he might be a good person to talk to (I'd guess he has a plan for building broadly-usable compiled versions)."

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iamlindoro:

Actually I guess it was yesterday that discussion went on

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cva:

orthoevra: you have the right zipcode set on schedules direct?

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orthoevra:

yeah, i guess ill try removing it, then doing a mythfill and then re-add and do mythfill again.. i dunno what else to try, i cant be the only one with this issue its all over google but nobody ever posts how they fixed it

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cva:

sorry, but mine just worked. no reboots or anything

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orthoevra:

cva: yeah :( i hate daylight savings time changes.... so annoying

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cva:

at least it's not a new change again. that sucked

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orthoevra:

i deleted my lineup but its still in mythtv.. how do i clear it out?

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cva:

go into setup and delte your video sources

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orthoevra:

k

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orthoevra:

ok.. listings are gone!

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orthoevra:

now.. to re-add

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Dagmar:

iamlindoro: The problem is basically that yes, -mcpu *is* deprecated, but you're supposed to use -mtune instead

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Dagmar:

Someone completely unfamiliar with WTF to do apparently misread what was in the gcc documentation

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Dagmar:

...and there should really be a gcc version check *first* before that sort of decision is made

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Dagmar:

I'm kinda wading upstream through the configure script now

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orthoevra:

re-added.. running filldb

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Dagmar:

I think perhaps this is the source of the problem...

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Dagmar:

echo " --cpu=CPU selects the minimum cpu required (affects"

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Dagmar:

T^hat's just wrong.

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Dagmar:

Arch selects the minimal CPU type

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Dagmar:

...and -march "implies" -mtune, making it not really necessary to set

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Ozymandias2:

i have a bunch of nes roms in a directory, and I have a player using that directory, and I have scanned for new games, but I still cant see any when I go to play them, what am I missing? oh, and I ubdated my romdb

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orthoevra:

cva: that did it!!! seems kludgy to have to do this every time daylightsavings changes but i had to delete video source, readd, rescan for channels, rerun mythfilldb

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** orthoevra sighs **

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orthoevra:

horrible

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cva:

orthoevra: at least it works. not sure why it didn't correctly with the change

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orthoevra:

cva: not sure :) but in 6 months i hope i remember how to fix it again :)

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cva:

maybe you'll update in between now and then and the "bug" will be gone ;)

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orthoevra:

cva: well i do plan on going to .21 soon as atrpms has it rdy

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Dagmar:

Good fucking god this configure script is a mess

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ipso:

Can anyone direct me to where I would find the deinterlace settings in MythTV 0.21?

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cva:

mythfrontend crashed on me while editing the cutlist. since then if I try to edit the cutlist it says it's being edited and gives me an option to continue editing (read crash again) or do not edit. any idea how to fix this or what the relevant mysql table is so I can fix it?

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hnitsuj:

UPDATE settings SET value="DONTCRASH" WHERE value="CRASH" AND hostname="mythbox";

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Dagmar:

Not going to work

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hnitsuj:

oh yeah the crash/dontcrash thing hasn't got a db setting yet

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hnitsuj:

right now it's just a random thing

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jduggan:

lol

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hnitsuj:

if (s_day == "monday" || s_day == "tuesday" || s_day == "wednesday" || s_day == "thursday") mythBackendSegfault(noreason);

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hnitsuj:

find those lines & comment them out :P

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Frosty-:

!history

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Frosty-:

MythTV is set to record only new episodes of programs, but some have failed to record, which table should I investigate to remove entries of the programs I want to re-record?

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Frosty-:

found it, "oldrecorded" :)

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hnitsuj:

Frosty-: see also 'previously recorded' in 'manage recordings' – you don't have to feck about with the database – infact I'd positively discourage it – esp if you don't know what you're doing or don't have a backup

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hnitsuj:

arghhh being in the lab is doing my head in today. other tech is playing Japan. hurts my ears!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Frosty-:

aha hnitsu, thanks, that helped

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Dagmar:

What's the URl for that page someone here wrote about the fallacy of being polite over being accurate?

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hnitsuj:

godknows

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Dagmar:

Drat

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Dagmar:

It would come in handy right about now

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directhex|work:

yes, it would

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directhex|work:

that would be me

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Dagmar:

I just had a headcase *ban* me from ##Slackware because I was bitching about his lunatic postings on LQ

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directhex|work:

http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/5/

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Dagmar:

The dude flat out claimed it was "BAD BAD BAD" to assume that Linux viruses are the minority

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Dagmar:

I corrected him.

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Dagmar:

He ranted about something unrelated, posed as a rebuttal.

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Dagmar:

I tried to get through to him *again*

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Dagmar:

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