Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Sunday, February 10th, 2008, 00:00 UTC

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penney:

Channel dead?

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CCFL_Man2:

i wonder if my dish needs a repoint

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robbins61:

how can i make my mythfilldatabase run automatically?

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gandalfcome:

robbins61: thats whhat i wondered as well

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robbins61:

i get sick of having to run it manually

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robbins61:

and it did update automatically before switching to schedulesdirect

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mzb:

there are options you can send to mythfilldatabase from mythtv ... I suggest you enable logging

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stowaway:

is there a way to autmoattically download meta data for movies instead of doing it one by one?

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mzb:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythfilldatabase

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robbins61:

thanks

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robbins61:

stowaway, that would be fantastic

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robbins61:

i've done about 300 movies 1 at a time

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stowaway:

shit

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stowaway:

there is a script to do it for the tvshows.

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stowaway:

there would have to be a script for movies

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jams:

there is

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stowaway:

do u have a link to it?

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stowaway:

or does it have a name

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robert__:

Hi, I have successfully installed Mythbuntu with a HVR-1300 card. This works great except for the TV-quality. Its kind of blurry and the colors are a bit off. Any hints on how to get those settings right?

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jams:

stowaway- imdb-bulk-update.pl

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stowaway:

thanks :)

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jams:

search the mailing lists for the link

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robert__:

The HVR-1300 is using the cx8800 driver

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stowaway:

i downloaded bulk updater. and i have a .pl file... how do i excute it?

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mzb_d800:

hmmm ... auto-expire is definitely not working ... causing all sorts of problems :|

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CCFL_Man2:

justy execute it

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DMJC:

hey how does digital radio work

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DMJC:

?

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stowaway:

i figured it out.. ./

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DMJC:

ah yup 0 pid for video

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DMJC:

I have a feature request for mythtv

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DMJC:

is it possible to get a visualisation going when there is no video feed?

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CCFL_Man2:

DMJC: byou in europe?

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CCFL_Man2:

you

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DMJC:

Australia

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mzb_d800:

hmm ... maybe that was incorrect ... looks like there's nothing to expire ... uh-oh ;)

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CCFL_Man2:

radio via dvb-t?

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DMJC:

yeah

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DMJC:

ABC Digital Jazz

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DMJC:

no video feed, they may as well run a visualisation

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mzb_d800:

DMJC: I agree ... in the meantime you can add the shoutcast patch and listen to internet streams ;)

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CCFL_Man2:

mzb_d800: why not just use dvbshout?

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mzb_d800:

(if you haven't been recording & cutting rage into individual clips;))

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DMJC:

lol

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DMJC:

I only JUST started man :)

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DMJC:

got fedup waiting for my saa7162 card to work

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DMJC:

dropped in a pci card I had lying around

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CCFL_Man2:

DMJC: i prefer a black screen, no burn in

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DMJC:

dell 30" lcd

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DMJC:

I want colours

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DMJC:

and the radio doesn't do a blakc screen anyway

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DMJC:

there's a large purple square

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CCFL_Man2:

DMJC: what does it do?

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DMJC:

being drawn in lower right screen

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DMJC:

rest of screen is black

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stowaway:

whats a way to find my ip address? (ie in windows it would be ipconfig)

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DMJC:

ifconfig

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DMJC:

f not p

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stowaway:

sweet =]

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DMJC:

interface config instead of ip config heh

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stowaway:

ah okay. thanks

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DMJC:

no problem

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CCFL_Man2:

DMJC: why don't you have a frontend backend system?

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Adian:

is there an ivtv channel for end-users?

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stowaway:

im trying to get this bulk imdb script to work and i keep getting this error:: any idea?

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stowaway:

michael@mediacentre:~/bulkupdater/imdbupdater$ ./imdb-bulk-update.pl -N -User Michael -Password &&&&&&

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stowaway:

DBI connect('mythconverg:127.0.0.1','Michael',...) failed: Access denied for user 'Michael'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at ./imdb-bulk-update.pl line 467

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stowaway:

ive tried my username and password

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Adian:

stowaway: is that username/password configured in the database? it is different than your system credentials...

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stowaway:

ohh.. I dont know. wher do i set that up?

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DMJC:

CCFL_Man2, ?

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DMJC:

what do you mean?

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DMJC:

I have a backend on the same box as the frontend

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DMJC:

because I can't afford two PCs

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CCFL_Man2:

why not have it seperate?

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CCFL_Man2:

oh

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DMJC:

I just want xbox media center

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DMJC:

the music interface is MUCH nicer

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DMJC:

mythmusic sucks

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DMJC:

the video/tv stuff is awesome

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DMJC:

but for music.. mythtv falls over hard

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CCFL_Man2:

DMJC: why don't you use music player deamon?

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DMJC:

because I don't want to?

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DMJC:

mpd is a horrible way to manage music

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CCFL_Man2:

there is no need to have a tv interface for music

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CCFL_Man2:

why?

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DMJC:

I didn't say that at all

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CCFL_Man2:

set it to random and repeat and you're good to go

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DMJC:

i said mythtv has a horrible music interface

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DMJC:

which it does

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DMJC:

nah man I don't listen to my music on random

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CCFL_Man2:

why do you need an interface?

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DMJC:

too much music to listen to you'd get some very freaky choices

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DMJC:

because I like to build a playlist

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CCFL_Man2:

mpd and a client is perfect

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DMJC:

mythmusic is very bad at doing that

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CCFL_Man2:

you can build your playlist

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DMJC:

does mythtv have a mpd frontend?

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CCFL_Man2:

thats what i do

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Chutt:

do you use the playlist editor in mythmusic?

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CCFL_Man2:

no

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DMJC:

the plalist editor is BAD that's what I'm saying

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DMJC:

the mythmusic one is horrible to use

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DMJC:

especially with a tv remote but even without one it's still bad

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DMJC:

:)

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DMJC:

xbox media center are going to use mythtv as the backend for tv recording anyway

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DMJC:

so I guess it'll be ok soon enough

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stowaway:

wahoo! i got it working. thanks adian. had a different database password

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DMJC:

I wa building an amd64 version a while ago

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DMJC:

*was

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CCFL_Man2:

isn't there a frontend port for xbox?

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DMJC:

mythfrontend? dunno probably

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DMJC:

XBMC are porting the other way off of xbox onto x86 linux

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Adian:

stowaway heh, no prob. sorry, had to step away for a sec

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DMJC:

so a new frontend to mythtv but different at the same time

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CCFL_Man2:

or install linux on it

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CCFL_Man2:

and run the frontend

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DMJC:

I don't own an xbox..

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DMJC:

I run an x2 4400+ desktop :)

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CCFL_Man2:

you don't want to own an xbox

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Chutt:

DMJC, the playlist editor with the tree view + stuff?

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Chutt:

most people who say 'mythmusic sucks' have never even used it

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Chutt:

:p

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DMJC:

Chutt, I've used it

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DMJC:

heh

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DMJC:

I had visualizations etc setup and running

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DMJC:

I didn't like it heh

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CCFL_Man2:

you and visualizations

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mzb_d800:

DMJC: what you can do re music is use a playlist editor of your choice, add the playlist to mythvideo (with associated pic + custom command) and then play it through mythvideo

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mzb_d800:

I use xine within my custom command (for eg.)

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CCFL_Man2:

ewww, xine

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mzb_d800:

thereby getting around the limitations of the mythmusic playlists

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clever[rev]:

mplayer can take a playlist which is just a txt with a list of paths

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mzb_d800:

both of them can

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stowaway:

hey i think im going crazy. there used to be a mythbuntu option in setup. but its gone now.. any idea?

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clever[rev]:

but if you start mplayer on MUSIC from mythVIDEO you have no gui and the keyboard wont control it

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DMJC:

heh

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mzb_d800:

lirc doesn't have a problem :)

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clever[rev]:

lirc will still control it

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clever[rev]:

but you still have no ui showing its status

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DMJC:

heh I need to get my remote setup

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clever[rev]:

it will just say loading.... even after its loaded

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DMJC:

used to have it working

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DMJC:

audigy breakout box makes a great receiver

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DMJC:

I bet the internal audigy bay is even better

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DMJC:

keeps it all internal

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CCFL_Man2:

i access my screen window to manage mpd

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CCFL_Man2:

with ncmpc

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DMJC:

http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/info_screens.htm

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mzb_d800:

clever[rev]: that's not what mine does

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mzb_d800:

and I use a script+xine to play shuffled music video clips

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clever[rev]:

mzb_d800: your what?

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CCFL_Man2:

i don't know why you need to manage your music in myth

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mzb_d800:

I don't need to ... it's just convenient

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stowaway:

wahoo. everything is finally coming together with my mediacenter :)

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CCFL_Man2:

but a mpd client in myth would be nice

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mzb_d800:

I can go from watching video, to watching shuffled music clips ... good for parties :)

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mzb_d800:

all linked up to the remote ... looks good

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stowaway:

does anyone know why the mythbuntu section in setup would have disappeared?

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kdub:

as if people that use linux have parties

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mzb_d800:

no playlist management as such ... but the music is automatically added to the playlist on execution, shuffled and added to the list before xine starts

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CCFL_Man2:

kdub: exactly

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kdub:

heh

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mzb_d800:

ie: the playlist is possibly empty before (first) execution

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stowaway:

i have parties. invovles my friends bringing over their puters and spending 8hours lanning

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CCFL_Man2:

mzb_d800: mpd and a client does the job fine

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mzb_d800:

I have ppl (younger than me) over every now and then :) ... I like to call it a party ;)

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** ServerSage pings fryfrog. **

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mzb_d800:

CCFL_Man2: doesn't play music videos though, right? ;)

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CCFL_Man2:

mzb_d800: oh, you're one of "those"...

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CCFL_Man2:

mzb_d800: thats what mythvideo is for

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kdub:

what do you bring over little kids and offer them ice cream?

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CCFL_Man2:

personally i'd rather eat the ice cream all by myself and have no one over

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kdub:

you sound like a real social fellow

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CCFL_Man2:

i hate people actually

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mzb_d800:

CCFL_Man2: please don't categorise or patronise me ... I've not had enough coffee to be nice

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CCFL_Man2:

mzb_d800: lol

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mzb_d800:

and no ... mythvideo doesn't do the job

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mzb_d800:

but with a custom command, it does

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CCFL_Man2:

coffee with ice cream goes good

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mzb_d800:

kdub: my g/f is 14yrs my junior

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kdub:

cofee tastes like ass

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kdub:

you date a 14 year old?

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CCFL_Man2:

mzb_d800: thats illegal in most countries

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CCFL_Man2:

kdub: actually, i don't like coffee

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mzb_d800:

heh ... nah ... all legal ... when you work out how old I am ;P

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CCFL_Man2:

i can't wait for my feedhorn and other lnb to come

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mzb_d800:

kdub: ps ... I don't date her ... I live with her, and our daughter

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CCFL_Man2:

girls have kids earlier and earlier it seems

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mzb_d800:

she's 24 or so ... so don't get the wrong idea

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kdub:

'or so'?

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kdub:

+- a decade

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javatexan:

lol

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CCFL_Man2:

the wide?

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CCFL_Man2:

wife

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Hoochster:

GreyFoxx, you around? Had a question about how to make an Xbox360 access the movies on MythVideo?

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kdub:

just ask the question

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Hoochster:

that is the question! :) How do I go about it seeing the movies on MythVideo

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CCFL_Man2:

Hoochster: crapbox360 wants wmv video?

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mzb_d800:

kdub: easier to say "or so" ... I *think* that's the right number ;) (ie. if number > fingers+toes it's "or so")

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kdub:

it can play divx

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Hoochster:

yes it can play divx now

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CCFL_Man2:

oh thats right, aftyer low long it's been out microshat finally decides to add a useful feature

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Hoochster:

and knew GreyFoxx was working on making it work with the 360, and saw a post on the forums stating it works, but just haven't quite seen how. I see my mythvid storage directories but not anything from my MythVideo

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kdub:

i doubt it has anything to do with mythvideo

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mzb_d800:

got the right file extensions defined?

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slashboot:

if I pause livetv long enough is there anyway I can do commercial flagging later ?

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kdub:

mythvideo is just a launcher that can access a database with information about the files

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Hoochster:

I guess I will wait for GreyFoxx being as he was the one that incorporated it!

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Hoochster:

if I was guessing being as it is seeing my myth storage directories that I need to add mythvideo to the storage groups or something but just trying to get more info. it is using myth's upnp

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clever[rev]:

mythvideo has its own storage folder

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clever[rev]:

in its setup

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Hoochster:

ya

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Hoochster:

I know

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Hoochster:

I use the hell out of it! :)

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Hoochster:

just thought it would be nice to access the files from my 360's

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CCFL_Man2:

anyone here do c band reception?

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mzb_d800:

Hoochster: are you saying you want to watching recordings from mythvideo?

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mzb_d800:

I've got another script for that sort of thing ;)

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mzb_d800:

I have a number of shows that I record for the daughter.

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mzb_d800:

In my mythvideo dir I have a playlist which is executed by a custom command. (playlist is automatically regenerated by the playcommand before playing it)

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: If you are just seeing the directories and not the files, you need a) to be running SVN (I presume you are) and b) you need to connect to Live and have installed the latest updates

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Hoochster:

mzb_d800, for starters was just trying to access the MythVideo shows, not as per say recordings.

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Hoochster:

iamlindoro_, I am running SVN 15821

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mzb_d800:

the command pulls all the filenames of "kids" shows and stuffs them into the playlist, then starts xine to play it

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iamlindoro_:

There was an update in the last month or two from live that I had to install, I only saw dir's beore that

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Hoochster:

and I play the 360 all the time so surely have updates

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iamlindoro_:

er before

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Hoochster:

I see the stuff from my MythStorage that I house all of my storage directories in, but my MythVideo is in another dir, maybe I need to put it under a storage directory

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Shouldn't be necessary

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Hoochster:

will try that and report back standby heh

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Hoochster:

wouldn't think so

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Hoochster:

but on my frontend I see my mythvideo stuff no prob

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Hoochster:

just don't see nothing on the 360

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iamlindoro_:

Well, sure, but that's not uPnP

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Hoochster:

now I should state

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Hoochster:

all of my stuff is under subdirectories in my MythVideo directory? that shouldn't matter should it

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Hoochster:

being as it should get the upnp info from the database right

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iamlindoro_:

"Hoochster: but on my frontend I see my mythvideo stuff no prob"

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Hoochster:

iamlindoro_, ya on my frontends I see all of it as well

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Hoochster:

just not on the 360

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iamlindoro_:

yes, it gets it from the DB (ie you need to have scanned it with video manager)

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Hoochster:

all you are doing on the 360 is going to Videos under the Media blade right? and selecting the master backend as the source right?

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iamlindoro_:

That was my point, btw, that on your frontends it's not uPnP, on your 360 it is

[01:32:02]

iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: yep

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Hoochster:

k that is the way I am doing it

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Hoochster:

just making sure

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iamlindoro_:

like you say, greyfoxx will be able to help you more... you can also try -v upnp for more upnp verbosity on the backend

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Hoochster:

do you think it has anything to do with database permissions? all my other remote frontends have no issues but I know on some stuff you have to put something int he db for other stuff to access with old password scheme or something?

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Hoochster:

true might try that

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iamlindoro_:

at least, I'm pretty sure that's now a valid option

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Hoochster:

thank you much for trying though heh

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Nope, no db info necessary, if the backend knows about it, it publishes via uPnP

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Hoochster:

k

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Hoochster:

and your mythvideo root dir is totally seperate from where you have your storage group dirs setup right

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iamlindoro_:

yup

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Hoochster:

I have /MythStorage/mythvid0 etc and then I have /MythVideo/DVDRips etc for mythvideo stuff

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Hoochster:

wonder if my router is blocking the upnp stuff. cuz my xbox is plugged straight into the router as where the myth servers are plugged into my data switch

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Hoochster:

hmm

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Hoochster:

brb lol

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Hoochster:

nope forgot I changed that awhile back it is all in the data switch

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tjcarter:

So the strike is over and the networks are going to stop airing craptacular reality shows now?

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iamlindoro_:

heh... they probably have to write some material and produce it first

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iamlindoro_:

and then of course they'll run it when they feel like it, assholes

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tjcarter:

I'm annoyed with how The 4400 was ended because of the strike

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tjcarter:

IMO it was a beginning, not an ending.

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kdub:

they may have written it like that thinking it was going the be renewed

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kdub:

but i have never seen it, nor ever heard anyone talk about it

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tjcarter:

USA was never all that kind to the show.

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kdub:

what the hell

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kdub:

i just saw a ron paul commercial

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kdub:

didnt he just quit?

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tjcarter:

did he?

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tjcarter:

the nutcase.

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kdub:

they start airing the commercials AFTER he quits?

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tjcarter:

LOL

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tjcarter:

start?

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kdub:

that is the first one i ever saw

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doobeh:

maybe he's preparing for 2012 :)

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kdub:

heh

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stowaway:

does anyone know the command to bring up mythbuntu control center? mine has disappered in mythtv for some reason

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stowaway:

never mind. sorted it

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htpcdvbs:

can mythtv do interactive tv?

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mike__:

does any1 know the file id put ntfs-3g /dev/ect ect in to automaticcally mount a win partion at boot up?

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runoff:

Sound not controllable by keys or remote, always on? Help...Thanks

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iamlindoro_:

mike__: That's not how it works... /dev nodes are different per system setup. That's a question/help request better suited for #linux

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mike__:

so thers not a equalifvant to autoexec.bat?

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iamlindoro_:

sure there is, it's (generally) /etc/rc.local, but that's not how you want to mount drives

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iamlindoro_:

you want to mount drives with a line it /etc/fstab

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iamlindoro_:

er line in

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mike__:

okay, ill have a look thanxs

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iamlindoro_:

yup

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iamlindoro_:

for that kind of general stuff, though, #linux is more appropriate

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iamlindoro_:

fyi

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mike__:

yeah cool. i understand that. this is just for mythtv

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kdub:

arnt they like

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kdub:

really mean there

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iamlindoro_:

Not that i've found... 'course, I suppose one could also go to #ubuntu (or wherever for your distro)

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kdub:

as far as linux people go

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kdub:

this is the most polite channel i have found

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kdub:

people dont get thier heads bit off for asking a stupid question

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iamlindoro_:

I mean, #mythtv-users shouldn't be a channel where we have to handle every support request just because someone intends to use myth, ya know?

[02:36:44]

kdub:

well yeah

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kdub:

not saying he should ask it here

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iamlindoro_:

I mean, how many levels of abstraction is okay once you open that door?

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iamlindoro_:

ie, is just myth->capture card setup okay, or does it become myth->capture card setup->teaching people to load drivers->teaching people to compile drivers->teaching people to compile the kernel?

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iamlindoro_:

that said, no big deal, wasn't a big problem

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andrboot_:

Hi, is anyone able to provide me wiht help regarding my tv tunder card not picking up any Tv channels.. (australia) while i can plug my tv in.. and it works fine > (the card works i have tested it in an other machine)

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andrboot_:

eveytime i go to a channel that i manually set i just get static.

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lanuser:

What's the difference or benefit to launching mythwelcome rather than mythfrontend?

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J-e-f-f-A:

lanuser: I think that mythwelcome will automatically restart mythfrontend if it fails, or is exited... (but I don't use it myself, so I could be wrong...)

[02:57:26]

orkid:

how do you fix audio sync problems rendering 1080p? i bet there is frame drop, but would like to know how to at least keep things in sync

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lanuser:

J-e-f-f-A: thanks

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kdub:

orkid, you can add -framedrop if you are using mplayer

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orkid:

ok awesome thanks

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kdub:

that will cause it to drop frames and keep it in sync

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kdub:

i dont think it does that by default

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mike__:

hey iamlindoro_ u wrote this metacleanup script didnt u?

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orkid:

that's exactly what i need. thanks!

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orkid:

checking out if it works now :)

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mike__:

michael@mediacentre:~/tvmeta$ ./metacleanup.sh

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mike__:

ERROR 2005 (HY000): Unknown MySQL server host 'Database/Movies' (1)

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mike__:

ERROR 2005 (HY000): Unknown MySQL server host 'Database/Movies' (1)

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mike__:

any idea?

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Hoochster:

lol funny you should ask that heh, I am runnign that script right now as well lol, but it has been running for a long time now and hasn't come back with a response? I assume it is normal if you got a boootload of stuff

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kusznir:

Hi all: I've got a myth system doing automatic shutdown/wakeup, and its working really well except it keeps running out of guide data. I'm guessing its not scheduling a wakeup for guide data. In a prior incarnation (before last rebuild), I didn't have this problem.

[03:04:04]

kusznir:

How do i have it automatically wake up for guide data?

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kdub:

you could set up a manual recording for right before you have mythfilldatabase to run :P

[03:06:41]

orkid:

kdub: that helped :)

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kdub:

orkid, have you tried playing it with the parallel decoder?

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kdub:

thats the only way i can play decent 1080p blu ray rips

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mike__:

I think its an issue for me because my directory is \media database\ that space always shits me.. i did put in \media/ database\ tho

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kdub:

of course you need two cores

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kusznir:

I don't know when mythfilldatabase is supposed to run, as SD tells it when to run next. If I tell myth not to manage mythfilldatabase, I can put a cron job in for running it, and anacron will catch it next boot if its off during the scheduled run.

[03:08:02]

bert_:

Does anyone know why I might not be able to connect to my backend server? I've verified that the ports on the firewall are open, that MySQL is bound to my internal IP and not 127. I'm at a loss as to why I can't connect to the backend server

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orkid:

kdub: don't have a dual core on this computer so no

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kusznir:

bert_ have you run mythtv-setup and set its IP there? If the backend thinks its IP is 127.0.0.1(the default), it will only bind to it

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bert_:

let me check that

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orkid:

kdub: right now using a 1.6GHz amd64 2600+

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orkid:

and the 1080p is pretty choppy, 720 is almost no chop

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orkid:

depends on the encoding/etc it seems too.

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bert_:

kusznir: Everything in mythtv-setup is for the internal IP and not 127

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kusznir:

bert_ what error are you getting from your frontend?

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bert_:

2008-02–09 21:57:13.259 Cannot login to database?2008-02–09 21:57:13.260 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.

[03:13:29]

bert_:

I've also verified that my mythtv user has full privledges on the DB except Grant

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kusznir:

bert_ Have you verified that mythtv@% (I think that's the notation..my sql is not very strong) has the privilages, not just myth@localhost? If possible, can you run a mysql client manually and try and connect?

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kusznir:

bert_ One more thing to check: have you set the IP address of the BE on the FE? I'm not sure how that's done now, but when I last remember messing with it, there was a text file that defined the IP, username, and password of the DB server for the myth FE.

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bert_:

Yah when it can't connect to the DB now it pops a screen and asks to fill in the data for the BE

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kusznir:

OK.

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kusznir:

that explains why I don't remember what I had to do to set it up last time :)

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kusznir:

I have a general question: My current hard drive is dying, so I need to buy a new one. I'm not real up on the various benchmarks/specs, so I'm looking for suggestions on what I should be looking for in a hard drive for myth recordings. This is a single-disk system (no RAID/etc).

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bert_:

I can't remember how to connect to a DB on a seperate machine any more

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kusznir:

Also, the hardware directly only supports PATA. Is it worth buying a SATA disk and a PCI SATA controller?

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kusznir:

bert_: mysql --host=<hostname> -u mythtv -p mythconverg (I think...)

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kusznir:

bert_: if that's not right, mysql --help or man mysql will give syntax details.

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bert_:

Well I can connect to the DB with no problem. That was perfect syntax btw

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kusznir:

thanks. Umm...If it were me, I'd probably bust out wireshark now and watch what my FE was actually trying to do...This might be a "heavy solution", but I'm a network admin by day.....

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bert_:

I was just poking around in .mythtv/mysql.txt and I found this line : DBType=QMYSQL3

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K`tin:

How would I go about accessing windows shares after I've already mounted them?

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K`tin:

In MythTV of course

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psofa:

im i the only one about to say wtf?

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K`tin:

Maybe I'm not explaining it correctly?

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bert_:

Found the answer I think

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bert_:

Yep my front end did not have libqt3-mt-mysql installed

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K`tin:

I have just installed MythTv on Ubuntu and I'm trying to access a windows share that contains alot of video files. I've already mounted the windows share on ubuntu but I can't seem to get to it in MythTv

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sshirley:

hi

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sshirley:

I just started up my mythtv box!! i have a pvr500. the video quality looks like that of a tv without cable with the antenne borken off. any ideas what could cause that?

[03:37:07]

sshirley:

only when watching tv. dvds and everything else looks good

[03:37:26]

sshirley:

i have sd cable

[03:38:30]

sshirley:

help! :-)

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lanuser:

The user idenitifed by "eric-mythtv@skoozdag" on the mailing lists isn't in here by chance is he?

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sshirley:

Bueller?

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sshirley:

anyone here tonight?

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kdub:

sshirley, you can try upping the resolution and bitrate of the capture

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kdub:

but there WILL be degredation of the video

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sshirley:

it comes out black & white and snowy

[03:44:08]

sshirley:

is there supposed to be that kind of degradation? :-)

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sshirley:

where do i go to change those settings?

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JackEStorm:

sshirley: I'd double and triple check your input connections, and don't use quick release F connectors, and keep the spliters to a min, else, you are on the wrong freq sub set if cable.

[03:52:59]

JackEStorm:

ie: using IRC when your cable co is HRC

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sshirley:

i am using hrc

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sshirley:

maybe i should cycle through those and see what happens

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sshirley:

what is the difference there?

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iamlindoro_:

us-cable is what you want for 95% of people

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iamlindoro_:

neither IRC nor HRC

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iamlindoro_:

IRC is Incrementally Related Carriers, HRC is Harmonically Related Carriers, both of which are usually unnecessary

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JackEStorm:

iamlindoro_: here, I have HRC and IRC offsets, and the same cable co as sshirley, just in another area

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iamlindoro_:

What Cable Co is that?

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JackEStorm:

Cox

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iamlindoro_:

Well who the eff knows what Cox is doing, but it's still generally unnecessary

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sshirley:

iamlindoro: so hrc is right? how do you use both irc and hrc at the same time?

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iamlindoro_:

sshirley: No, what I am saying is HRC and IRC should be used as last resorts, just use us-cable

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iamlindoro_:

And only if *that* fails should you be trying HRC or IRC

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JackEStorm:

but I'd still start off with your connections sshirley, thats 90% of the common problems with snow,etc, bad connection, etc, plug a tv in and see if it still has snow.

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EnderTheThird:

anyone else have trouble with archiving DVDs in SVN?

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JackEStorm:

EnderTheThird: I'm having all sorts of problems with svn and release ...DVD's, not sure, can't even get the menu up

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EnderTheThird:

I've had DVD archiving work fine with Mythbuntu release, but haven't had any luck with SVN yet.

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Hoochster:

iamlindoro_, your metacleanup.sh script, should I be getting anything outputted right after running it? I have a ton of MythVideo files so didn't know if it has to parse through all of that first before outputting something to the screen or what?

[04:00:52]

sshirley:

i have a 4-way splitter. 1 input. port a goes to the TV (while i get this thing configured). port b goes to cable modem. ports c and d go to PVR500. the tv and internet work fine

[04:02:18]

sshirley:

so its the pvr then. switching to us-cable now

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JackEStorm:

sshirley: disconnect the cable from the pvr500 and connect that to the tv, and the tv to the pvr500, see if it changes, could be a bad cable, or that ugly spliter

[04:03:21]

sshirley:

good plan

[04:04:57]

sshirley:

btw, once i configure both units on my pvr500, do i ever have to worry about addressing either when when recording and viewing simultaneously?

[04:05:36]

sshirley:

hell yeah!!!!

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sshirley:

us-cable is the key!!!!

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sshirley:

thanks!!!!

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sshirley:

my system is now fully functional!!!!

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J-e-f-f-A:

<sarcasm> Too bad Myth isn't like Linux MCE — Just plug stuff in, turn it on, and it all works automagically... </sarcasm> ;-)

[04:10:18]

nuonguy:

I just got me a comcast cable box, the dch3200

[04:10:27]

nuonguy:

mythtv-setup doesn't have an entry for that

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sshirley:

There was a lot more configuration that I thought

[04:10:34]

nuonguy:

is the dct6200 close enough?

[04:10:42]

sshirley:

I shudder to think what it'll be like when i go digital

[04:10:48]

sshirley:

however, again, once i configure both units on my pvr500, do i ever have to worry about addressing either when when recording and viewing simultaneously?

[04:11:08]

JackEStorm:

ok so, QGLContext::makeCurrent() errors up the yingyang, GLX is loaded, and on top of that "-O UseOpenGLPainter=0" has no effect

[04:11:49]

J-e-f-f-A:

nuonguy: Is it a HD box with firewire?

[04:11:54]

nuonguy:

yes

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nuonguy:

will the 6200ch channel changer program work with the dch3200?

[04:12:26]

JackEStorm:

sshirley: yes, you do, but it will be because something is being recored on both and you will be prompted

[04:12:30]

J-e-f-f-A:

nuonguy: I'd say give it a shot... is it the same brand box? (motorola think?)

[04:12:35]

nuonguy:

yes

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nuonguy:

the 6200ch program says it cannot find a dct6200 in the firewire bus

[04:13:13]

sshirley:

otherwise, if there is no scheduling conflict, mythtv will automate the tuner selection process?

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JackEStorm:

yes, it has for me, I have a PRV250 and a ATI HD Wonder

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kdub:

nuonguy, you may have to edit a script or create an alias to make it treat your box like a 6200ch

[04:13:52]

kdub:

now how you do that, i have no idea

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J-e-f-f-A:

nuonguy: ah... you probably have to tweak the script to recognize the box... you can probably find the id string or whatever via dmesg and replae it in the script.... ^^^ exactly

[04:15:32]

** J-e-f-f-A doesn't have a firewire box as c*mcast encrpts everything here, and Fios doesn't have firewire... :-( **

[04:15:33]

nuonguy:

when you say 'the script', you mean the .c file and recompile?

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nuonguy:

J-e-f-f-A isn't it FCC regulations that they do provide firewire?

[04:16:27]

CCFL_Man2:

J-e-f-f-A: c band satellite

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J-e-f-f-A:

nuonguy: Yeah for cable, but it doesn't have to be un-encrypted... And Fios techincally isn't cable because it's delivered by fiber... (a technical loophole I think)

[04:17:27]

kdub:

they usually only unencrypt the channels you get for free over the air or through qam

[04:17:33]

kdub:

so firewire is pretty pointless

[04:17:47]

kdub:

but for those who dont have it encrypted, it is awesome

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CCFL_Man2:

kdub: c band satellite

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kdub:

CCFL_Man2, unreasonable

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J-e-f-f-A:

CCFL_Man2: Can I pm you a question?

[04:18:57]

CCFL_Man2:

kdub: not for someone who loves the hobvby of c band

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kdub:

even if i had a yard i wouldnt put one of those monstrosities up

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CCFL_Man2:

J-e-f-f-A: just ask it in the channel

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CCFL_Man2:

kdub: i'd put up as many as i could, and get commercial receivers with asi output, connect that to qam modulators and get the transport streams into myth via atsc/qam cards tuning the qam signal

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CCFL_Man2:

cable companies and dish/directv all get their signals from c band

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CCFL_Man2:

some from leased line circuits and point to point links too

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JohnMahowald:

Nifty feature on wired science video "Satellite Shopping"

[04:24:22]

J-e-f-f-A:

CCFL_Man2: So, do you have a c-band setup with myth now?

[04:24:29]

JohnMahowald:

Price tag on a sat in geosync $500+ million

[04:25:04]

JackEStorm:

CCFL_Man2: umm, all? no, not even most, most come via KU, not C, and more and more now it's PtP fiberlinks for transport, it's cheaper, and more stable.

[04:25:59]

CCFL_Man2:

J-e-f-f-A: not yet in myth, i'm waiting on equipment, the dish i have right now is pointed to AMC1

[04:26:28]

CCFL_Man2:

JackEStorm: i looked on lyngsat, i saw no commercial stations on ku band

[04:27:43]

squish102:

if i have an nvidia card and using the dvi->hdmi to a 61" dlp (720p) and i have lots of overscan (I loose a fair amount of the screen) what approch should i take to fix? nvidia driver?

[04:27:54]

CCFL_Man2:

JackEStorm: i mostely see feeds

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CCFL_Man2:

some stations, but very few

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CCFL_Man2:

and fiber links are super super expensive

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CCFL_Man2:

JohnMahowald: it's super super expensive

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kdub:

squish102, yes, nvidia driver

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JackEStorm:

CCFL_Man2: cheaper than sat time, a local station backhauls everything via fiber to the home office for cutting, and promo imputs, and then sends it back to the tower.

[04:35:27]

squish102:

kdub i have the nvidia driver, but im looking for the nvidia util.. doesnt seem to be in the menus :(

[04:35:35]

kdub:

use the terminal

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JackEStorm:

CCFL_Man2: and the home office is 5 states away

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kdub:

nvidia-settings

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squish102:

thanks

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JackEStorm:

squish102: I'm still trying to work that out, I have massive overscan with my nvidia, and I can't get rid of it.

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CCFL_Man2:

JackEStorm: then why isn't c band completely gone?

[04:37:38]

JackEStorm:

CCFL_Man2: contracts

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kdub:

i think you guys might have to edit your xorg.conf to compensate for overscan

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kdub:

that is what i had to do

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CCFL_Man2:

JackEStorm: i doubt your reasoning

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squish102:

kdub that sounds scarry

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kdub:

heh

[04:39:12]

kdub:

squish102, do you use the htpc for anything other than myth?

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JackEStorm:

kdub: ok, DVI text mode, massive over scan, DVI X, over scan at 720p (can't even get 1080i working), COMPONENT, Text mode is ok, but 1080i massive overscan....I can't find the options to hand edit, and xvidtune is useless now.

[04:39:41]

kdub:

because if it is just for myth, you can just set the myth GUI to come up smaller

[04:39:54]

kdub:

yeah xvidtune is useless

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CCFL_Man2:

JackEStorm: america uses c band because of geography

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kdub:

i just looked up the syntax of the modelines and made my own

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squish102:

well is is doing some server stuff too, but it's only connection is the tv

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kdub:

i just changed a couple numbers in the modeline and restarted the x server until i was happy

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kdub:

squish102, do you need the desktop at all? if not then it is much easier to just set the myth gui to be smaller

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JackEStorm:

kdub: I've done that with CRT's back in the day when things didn't work, but with my TV, it would take too long, really bad edid

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squish102:

well the only desktop i need is when i vnc into the box to do other stuff

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kdub:

well the edid doesnt matter

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CCFL_Man2:

lot of stations in the US use c band instead of ku, even when they recently switched from analog to digital, they still use c band

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kdub:

as long as you have 720p working

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kdub:

your video card is still sending the TV 720p, but it has a black border that gets chopped off by the overscan

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JackEStorm:

kdub: yeah 720p is working from EDID, but I can't get 1080i workings based off that.

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kdub:

1080 doesnt work

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kdub:

er

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kdub:

1080i doesnt work

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kdub:

youre not going to send anything interlaced to the TV

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squish102:

kdub so do i just take the modline and adjust the numbers?

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JackEStorm:

via DVI that is?

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kdub:

best you can do is 1960x540p

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kdub:

via anything

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kdub:

you cant do interlaced

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kdub:

this is my modeline

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kdub:

ModeLine "720p-ish" 74.2 1240 1300 1350 1650 702 710 728 750 +hsync +vsync

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squish102:

modeline "1280x720@60" 74.5 1280 1336 1472 1664 720 721 724 746 -hsync +vsync < so i need to start changing that line

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kdub:

yeah

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CCFL_Man2:

nhk japan world tv is on intelsat9, i never knew that

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squish102:

ok thanks

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kdub:

change it to mine

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JackEStorm:

component works thou, just overscan in X, text is perfect (and DVI default text, POST, BIOS, et al, is perfect too)

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kdub:

it is 1240x702 instead of 1280x720

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lanuser:

Shouldn't live TV be played through the input connection / tv card with the highest input priority?

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kdub:

you also need

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kdub:

Option "FlatPanelProperties" "scaling = centered"

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CCFL_Man2:

wonder if i can get intelsat 903 where i am

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JackEStorm:

err, component, not DVI, DVI fails all around

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CCFL_Man2:

i've always wanted to get knr tv and radio from greenland

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JackEStorm:

yeah got that set too

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JackEStorm:

kdub: now this is a GeForce 7600 GT on a Samsung HCN559W

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kdub:

i have that card too

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squish102:

kdub would i need that line too?

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kdub:

why on earth are you using component instead of DVI->HDMI?

[04:50:25]

kdub:

squidly, yes, it goes in the screen section

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JackEStorm:

the TV is DVI only

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kdub:

ah

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JackEStorm:

no HDMI

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kdub:

well still

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kdub:

suprising DVI doesnt work at all

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kdub:

how are you getting component?

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JackEStorm:

didn't mean DVI only and is only input, it's 3svido 3composite 3compontent 1dvi 2rf in system

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squish102:

kdub, your modline is an improvement over mine, i still cannot see the task bar on top, and sides sill missing (like half the menu).. should i just compare your line to my original and where u go up, i go a little higher

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JackEStorm:

and my card is composite out, component out, vga out, dvi out

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kdub:

well you should be able to just change the numbers that say 1240 and 702

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JackEStorm:

(and svideo out)

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kdub:

lower those

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JackEStorm:

kdub: the fucked up thing about my tv, is via DVI it advertises that it can do, 1080p and a wonderful 1920x2160@31i

[04:57:36]

kdub:

what the hell kind of resolution is that

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JackEStorm:

16:9 on it's side, interlaced.

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kdub:

have you tried telling it to ignore EDID and sending it a perfect 1080p modeline?

[04:58:34]

kdub:

1080p60

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JackEStorm:

yeah, the TV kicks back no video or invalid video

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JackEStorm:

(it's a 1080i after all), and same with a 1080i modeline

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kdub:

well have you tried the 1960x540p?

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K`tin:

Is there an easy way to configure an MCE remote. I've tried http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/LIRC with no luck.

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JackEStorm:

no not yet,

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kdub:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Modeline_Database#Samsung

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kdub:

might try feeding it all of those

[05:01:09]

kdub:

they dont have your exact model

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JackEStorm:

I tried those, and the "ATSC standard" modes, no go, but not over vga, only over dvi

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squish102:

kdub, thanks i have got it better, and i can live with it (its not perfect)

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kdub:

heh

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kdub:

if you want perfect you have to buy a zero overscan set

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kdub:

such a simple fucking thing for them to add

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JackEStorm:

I want one of those

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kdub:

and until recently none of them did it

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JackEStorm:

kdub: mine has 3 100lb liquid cooled 7" crts in it.

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kdub:

jesus

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kdub:

i thought you said it was a DLP?

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squish102:

one down, 3 more problems to go (for another day)

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JackEStorm:

no

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JackEStorm:

Rear Projection, never said that much detail on it.

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kdub:

oh the other guy was dlp

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JackEStorm:

kdub: yeah, and now I have other issues, on top of the over scan (should have left things alone lastnight)

[05:11:22]

kdub:

heh

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JackEStorm:

frontend starts up but no menu :( and BS error messages in the logs

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K`tin:

Could anyone help me install and configure Lirc?

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kdub:

probably the people in #lirc

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kdub:

er

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kdub:

where is their channel

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CCFL_Man2:

i should try my commercial ird with c band

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K`tin:

For additional help, check the MythTV documentation, the LIRC documentation, the #mythtv-users IRC channel on irc.freenode.net, and the LIRC dev mailing list.

[05:16:38]

kdub:

yeah

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K`tin:

"" from the wiki

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kdub:

heh

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kdub:

well what problem are you having?

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JackEStorm:

kdub: not sure if they have one, and well lirc irc is a fuitless search

[05:17:18]

kdub:

yeah it looks like they dont, i thought they did for some reason

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K`tin:

well I followed the steps for installing but I'm not sure what to do from here

[05:17:45]

K`tin:

trying to run it with lircd -d /dev/lirc/0 has proven fruitless so far

[05:17:46]

kdub:

is it installed?

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K`tin:

yes

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K`tin:

and I can run lircd

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kdub:

if you installed it from packages then most of it should be set up

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K`tin:

I had to do a bunch of cvs stuff, and I can get lircd running

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K`tin:

it just doesn't seem to work with my remote

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JackEStorm:

what remote?

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K`tin:

MCE v2

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kdub:

if its a common remote you should be able to just grab the conf files off the internet somewhere

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K`tin:

I got the conf files but I can't figure out where to put them

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kdub:

isnt it like /etc/lirc or something

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kdub:

or .lirc

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kdub:

who the hell knows

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K`tin:

ah

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K`tin:

that might be my problem let me try that

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JackEStorm:

depends on how it was installed but in myth ~/.lirc should work

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kusznir:

Does anyone have some performance comparison between modern PATA and SATA drives? I have to replace my (only) myth storage disk, and my mobo only has PATA support. I'm wondering if its worth buying a PCI SATA card and a SATA disk over just a PATA disk?

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K`tin:

the IR reciever lights up but nothing happens in Myth

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kdub:

go ahead and get yourself a new system

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kusznir:

Hmm...too much money to drop at once...Wife wouldn't approve :(

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kdub:

K`tin, have you verified that the reciever is actually sending something to the computer?

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K`tin:

Simple way to check that? I'm not even sure where to start checking

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kdub:

run mode2 as root

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kdub:

hit some buttons

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kdub:

if nothing happens in the terminal you got problems bigger than lirc

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K`tin:

yeah

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K`tin:

things are happening

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kdub:

ok

[05:25:46]

kdub:

well beyond that i would be looking things up for you

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kdub:

heh

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kdub:

been a long time since i set it up

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K`tin:

is there a way to find out if lirc is listening to the right device?

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K`tin:

I have a usb mouse plugged in and a the usb reciever

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K`tin:

not sure if that could be a problem

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kdub:

i doubt it

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kdub:

the mouse wont be going near /dev/lirc

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K`tin:

that makes sense

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K`tin:

checking my ps I find lircd /dev/lirc/0

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Hoochster:

GreyFoxx, you by chance around?

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Hoochster:

has anyone configured mythweather on the newer version, the one in trunk?

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emja:

Can the internal mythtv video player play a URL source?

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stowaway:

has anyone here used the script metacleanup.sh?

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stowaway:

iamlindoro_ u there? metacleanup is ur script right?

[08:02:30]

stowaway:

i think mine is hanging but not 100%

[08:03:14]

Hoochster:

stowaway, I just started ATTEMPTING to use that tonight, but I guess it is doing something but not getting any feedback. but I have a ton of video files like over 3000. So maybe it has to attempt to update each one first before it gets to the point asking me for feedback. I don't know

[08:03:21]

Hoochster:

but ya mine appears to be hanging as well

[08:03:26]

Hoochster:

but I can cancel out of it

[08:04:02]

stowaway:

i can cancel it.. but how long is it suppose to go for without saying anytthing?

[08:04:10]

Hoochster:

that I don't know.

[08:04:17]

Hoochster:

do you have a large movie database?

[08:04:22]

stowaway:

big.

[08:04:26]

stowaway:

lots of tvshows.

[08:04:30]

stowaway:

lots of seasons.

[08:04:37]

Hoochster:

so it might be like mine where maybe it has to search for each one first before it comes back asking for info

[08:04:55]

stowaway:

but if its working i should see a folder.jpg in some of the tv shows.

[08:05:10]

stowaway:

how longhas urs been going for?

[08:05:31]

Hoochster:

I had left it running for a couple of hours and didn't see anything.

[08:05:41]

stowaway:

and still havent seen anything?

[08:05:47]

Hoochster:

heh nope

[08:06:07]

stowaway:

hm.. i know tehre is an error in it if there are some wierd files it hangs. but i only have avi and mpg

[08:06:22]

Hoochster:

I pretty much have all avi's

[08:06:39]

Hoochster:

so not sure, I bet iamlindoro_ will be around tomorrow to ask.

[08:06:54]

stowaway:

do u know what the equlivent in linux is of dir /s *.jpg

[08:07:06]

stowaway:

i want to see if it has put a folder.jpg anywhere in my database. coz if its working it should have

[08:07:18]

GreyFoxx:

find . -iname \*.jpg

[08:07:18]

Hoochster:

either locate *.jpg or find / -name *.jpg should do it

[08:07:23]

Hoochster:

hey GreyFoxx

[08:07:33]

GreyFoxx:

iname = case insensitive, name = case sensitive

[08:07:34]

Hoochster:

you feel like answering an xbox360 question heh

[08:07:49]

GreyFoxx:

not really unless it's simple. I'm jsut heading to bed :)

[08:07:55]

GreyFoxx:

what's the q?

[08:08:08]

Hoochster:

lmao np, if u feel like answer gofer it if not no biggie. trying to get mythvideo stuff to play on the 360

[08:08:29]

Hoochster:

and finally by manually populating the database with the videostartupdir for the backend, I got the 360 to show the files

[08:08:30]

GreyFoxx:

I'll be much more lively tomorrow and all braincells should be awake :)

[08:08:32]

Hoochster:

but I get an error on play

[08:08:35]

Hoochster:

lmao

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tjcarter:

Yahoo to Microsoft: "Bite me."

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DMJC:

hey

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DMJC:

anyone know howto get rid of horizontal lines on HD movies?

[08:21:32]

DMJC:

do you need to run a filter?

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DMJC:

eg deinterlace etc?

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K`tin:

Anyone in here know much about getting lirc working?

[08:45:10]

K`tin:

I've gotten it install but mythtv doesn't seem to respond

[08:45:15]

K`tin:

I get the commands through on IRW too

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kusznir:

You need to get an .lircrc in the ~/.mythtv directory that "maps" lirc commands to "myth" commands.

[08:48:05]

kusznir:

You'll also need to do this for xine if you use that for dvd playing.

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K`tin:

I have one in there

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kusznir:

lircd is running (and configured with the proper dev: /dev/lirc0 or /dev/lirc/0, depending on OS and config?

[08:50:05]

K`tin:

lirc0

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K`tin:

yeah

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kusznir:

Ok, I'd have to go back through the lirc docs on www.lirc.org to troubleshoot. Unfortunately, its past my bedtime, and my mental capacity shows it, so I wouldn't want to offer much more in suggestions tonight....

[08:51:42]

K`tin:

thanks for the help though

[08:51:56]

K`tin:

anyone else in here know how to set it up? I've run through like 2 or 3 guides and I keep running into this wall

[08:52:07]

K`tin:

the .conf is good and I really don't know why it isn't controlling myth

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kusznir:

I also seem to recall something in earlier myths when you lanch the frontend from a console it would print out a line about LIRC (and possibly problems it ran into)...might want to watch for that.

[08:52:27]

K`tin:

I haven't launched it from the console

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kusznir:

console = xterm / somewhere where STDOUT/STDERR gets to you

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K`tin:

right

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kusznir:

What I usually do is ssh in from my laptop, su to the user mythfrontend runs as normally, kill any existing mythfrontend, do "export DISPLAY=:0.0", then run mythfrontend.

[08:54:06]

kusznir:

That way I get clearly legible output on my laptop and get to watch mythfrontend do what its supposed to where its supposed to.

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K`tin:

no luck exporting the display

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kusznir:

are you running bash?

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K`tin:

yeah

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K`tin:

on ubuntu 7.04

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kusznir:

what error did you get?

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K`tin:

hold on I rebooted

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K`tin:

alright that's working now

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K`tin:

Failed to read lirc config /home/delbarba/.mythtv/lircrc for mythtv

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K`tin:

is there not supposed to be a . in that file?

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kusznir:

Nope.

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K`tin:

that might be it

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kusznir:

You can make it /home/delbarba/.lircrc, and then symlink that to .mythtv/lircrc

[09:01:47]

K`tin:

I'll find out in a sec when myth starts up again

[09:01:56]

K`tin:

I had it to .lircrc

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kusznir:

Or do it the other way around. I think I found some things (like xine) needed it to be at ~/.lircrc; whereas myth needs it in ~/.mythtv/lircrc. So I choose the .lircrc with simlink to .mythtv/lircrc approach.

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K`tin:

oh

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K`tin:

that works

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K`tin:

kusznir you're my hero

[09:04:57]

kusznir:

Glad I could help!

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kusznir:

Now, its time for some sleep. See you around!

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justinh:

wonder where the rumour came from about xbmc going to use mythtv for recording....

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justinh:

hmmm be nice is that shaw cable user would stop trying to hammer my back door down

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justinh:

s/is/if

[10:02:08]

justinh:

:-\

[10:02:37]

justinh:

oh not just one shaw cable user. five of them

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justinh:

oops. my bad. just about the whole shaw cable ip range by the look of things

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justinh:

and they're not even trying port 80. weird

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justinh:

how bad does that look? :-O

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foo8ar:

good morning fellow net citizens. is there a way to move rename recordings to another place and remove it from the database?

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foo8ar:

rename and move

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justinh:

not built into mythtv, no

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foo8ar:

any user contributed scripts?

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foo8ar:

i've found some scripts in the contrib directory but they seems to rename and move with symlinking but the recording still exists in the db

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justinh:

there's mythrename.pl to rename recordings but it won't move anything

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foo8ar:

so i've seen

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justinh:

it'd be easy to change the script to move files

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justinh:

oh ffs. I'm sick of all this incoming from shaw cable facking up my internet connection

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justinh:

it's murdering my router

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foo8ar:

i guess the moving part could be handled, but im a bit scared of altering the db

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foo8ar:

are there any hints how to do that?

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justinh:

DELETE FROM recorded WHERE %something = "something";

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foo8ar:

so there are no relations hanging on tho the table recorded?

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jduggan_:

ok guys

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jduggan_:

uh

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jduggan_:

i recall there was a setting in myth to stop teh screensaver coming on

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jduggan_:

i think i must have randomly unchecked it because the screen powers down

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jduggan_:

but cant find the setting

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jduggan_:

anyone remember wtf it was :o

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justinh:

jduggan_: there's no setting for it

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justinh:

not in mythfrontend

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justinh:

yay shawcable users seem to be giving me a break at last. ducking botnet

[13:02:16]

justinh:

IMHO ISPs should ban users if it's found they're being a problem

[13:02:49]

justinh:

"but muhhhhhh it's not my fault" is no defence :D

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jduggan_:

oh really? i swear i saw a setting where myth disables the screensaver, its only recently started happening so not sure what ive done.. its like some opengl effect it shades slowly to black even in livetv/watching video, using the remote doesnt wake it up, so i have to plugin a keyboard and tap it

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jduggan_:

as far as i can see theres no xscreensaver installed

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** jduggan_ checks xset **

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justinh:

xset DPMS off IIRC

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jduggan_:

dpms force on

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jduggan_:

i swear they changed the syntax of xset

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jduggan_:

to how i remember it

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jduggan_:

oh well

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jduggan_:

hopefully this does the trick

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justinh:

yeah seems I didn't rc ;)

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jduggan_:

hehe

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justinh:

pfft yet more love for the media portal theme :-\ 3rd party themes need a cute injection for WAF & KAF

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aquarius:

I'm trying to get an Apple Remote to work with mythtv on a G4 mac mini, and not having a lot of luck. Part of the problem is that I don't know if lirc is set up right, whether I have any IR hardware at all, etc; what's the best place to start/

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aquarius:

?

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riddlebox:

aquarius, well is lirc installed?

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aquarius:

riddlebox: OK, have just discovered that g4 mac minis don't have an IR receiver built in. Shoot me now. :)

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riddlebox:

hehe

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riddlebox:

I just learned about lirc, I had to get a remote working for a pinnacle 800i

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aquarius:

looking forward to my wife finding out that the birthday present remote that she bought me won't work because I didn't check whether I had an IR receiver. :) Off to ebay for me, I suspect

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riddlebox:

aquarius, you can buy one for like 10 bucks

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aquarius:

am going to :)

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riddlebox:

I just bought a card for 80 bucks that came with one

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riddlebox:

now I have three tuners ;)

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doobeh:

When I set myth to transcode-- is it possible to make it cut out the commericals? Presently, the only way I don't see commercials is if I view through the front-end

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doobeh:

--honorcutlist!

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doobeh:

Hmm, I use nuvexport to compress my recordings down into xvid-- if I change the mythtranscode setting to honor the cutlist, does the process go... record live tv – transcode and cut – feed into nuvexport

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doobeh:

?

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doobeh:

Or when I use my own userjob, does the transcoding stage get ignored

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code-er:

can some one please help me with my DVB

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code-er:

i have a Nova-S card, my friend has the exact same one, please note we even swapped cards.

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code-er:

The car works perfectly on his computer with kernel 22, on my computer it gives me REALLY low signals and cant prefeorm a lock or a scan. does any one have any idea what this could be

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code-er:

*card

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code-rr:

Any one have anhy ideas?

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code-rr:

join #linuxtv

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code-rr:

sory

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iamlindoro_:

ok, ok, I'm awake... let the troubleshooting requests on my scripts begin. (Hoochster, stowaway)

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mkrufky-away:

hello, iamlindoro_

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iamlindoro_:

when one of you reads this, I would suggest that you a) check to make sure you have modified metacleanup.sh with your database and user details and b) if it's still not working, it should be simple to run bash -x metacleanup.sh to see where it's hanging up

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mkrufky:

lol

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iamlindoro_:

mkrufky, hey, how are you?

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mkrufky:

i was just saying hi :-)

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iamlindoro_:

mkrufky: yeah, that wasn't for you ;)

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mkrufky:

im doin good... and u?

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mkrufky:

yeah, i know

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iamlindoro_:

I'm doing good-- less time in #mythtv-users this week, it's doing wonders for my sanity ;)

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mkrufky:

hehe i hear ya

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mkrufky:

i think this is my first time here in a week or two

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mkrufky:

its amazing how much code i can write while im not logged into irc

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iamlindoro_:

There are some things it's tough not to have an opinion on — notably, the blind leading the blind-- and one is a lot more productive when they just don't know what silliness they're missing

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mkrufky:

lol

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mkrufky:

its true

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Vaelys:

.win 49

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Vaelys:

mt

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iamlindoro_:

of course, that proves to be the exact moment people start using stuff I've uploaded and I'm deluged with "oh shit it doesn't workl!" messages

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mkrufky:

what do you upload? you are a developer, too?

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iamlindoro_:

mkrufky: Noooooooooo, not at all, just a few little useful scripts for MythVideo

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mkrufky:

ah

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iamlindoro_:

very pedestrian stuff

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mkrufky:

ah... well i have a little problem EXACTLY in that area

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iamlindoro_:

Generates thumbnails, proper length information, downloads plot info from TVRage, etc... basically cleans up and download all metadata

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mkrufky:

i think a month or two — i asked this question and i think you helped me

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iamlindoro_:

what problem?

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mkrufky:

i had some hard drive failures when i moved from brooklyn to queens

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mkrufky:

lost a bunch of recordings, but the database entries never got removed

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mkrufky:

a few hundred recordings, actually

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mkrufky:

there is this script in contrib... find_orphans.pl

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iamlindoro_:

right... but lost 'em from mythvideo, huh?

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mkrufky:

no

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mkrufky:

so, then not EXACTLY in the area, lol

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mkrufky:

but, it is only in the 0.21 tree, and it's tied to the version

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mkrufky:

i run 0.20 packaged from atrpms

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iamlindoro_:

ohhh, ok... Yeah, I *believe* I had heard that removing the storage group stuffis trivial

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mkrufky:

and i totally depend on my mythtv setup for my relaxation time — dont want to use svn trunk

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iamlindoro_:

ie, I'm told the script can be modified for .20

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mkrufky:

i never actually took a stab at altering the script

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mkrufky:

but, if somebody actually has, then IMHO, it should be checked into svn

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mkrufky:

for that version's branch

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iamlindoro_:

yeah. Hmm, I'm fairly certain I heard it talked about here-- someone basically just commented out a bunch of stuff for the storage group functionality and got it working (or claimed to)

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mkrufky:

hmm, that trivial, eh?

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mkrufky:

ok.... i'll take another look

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code-rr:

how can i force one DVB adapter to be adapter0 and the other adapter1 ?

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iamlindoro_:

code-rr: udev rules

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Dagmar:

Pray there's a udev hook for PCI BUS Identifiers

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mkrufky:

i remain infuriated that janneg's adapter numbering patch got nacked :-(

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code-rr:

how do they get numbered?

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Dagmar:

Whatever one get enumerated first wins

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code-rr:

lol great, so its random :-P

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Dagmar:

So again, your only hope is a udev rule

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iamlindoro_:

Yes, but you just right a udev rule that says "hey, whichever one is the Hauppauge should always be symlinked to adapter3 and whichevr one is the PirateTek 2000 should be symlinked to adapter4"

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mkrufky:

code-rr: if you google it, you'll probably find people asking this question on the linux-dvb mailing list repeatedly .... and numerous example udev configurations to achieve the goal

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iamlindoro_:

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code-rr:

mkrufky: im googling thanx :)

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Dagmar:

If they're using different drivers, an alias directive could probably fix it

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code-rr:

mkrufky: btw the voltage patch fixed it my problem go fig

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mkrufky:

code-rr: that's EXACTLY the patch i was talkign about

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mkrufky:

code-rr: PLEASE email this to linux-dvb

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mkrufky:

some guy broke it

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iamlindoro_:

http://rafb.net/p/xkbbMg37.html

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iamlindoro_:

Those are my udev rules for my dvb cards

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code-rr:

mkrufky: i will be :) its acutaly a really old patch.

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mkrufky:

and when people figure it out, they apply the patch themselves and dont tell anybody — we need people to complain and show the fix if it's ever going to be fixed permanently for others

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code-rr:

mkrufky: i will be posting dont wory,

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mkrufky:

:-)

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code-rr:

mkrufky: ill be posting stuff about Plextor HDTV usb soon hopefully i can contribute to its devel

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iamlindoro_:

mkrufky: from looking at the find orphans script, it looks like --dir=directories will bypass trying to pull from a storage group

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mkrufky:

code-rr: i think i know what that needs too

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mkrufky:

code-rr: are you in ATSC-land?

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** mkrufky bets it's a cypress fx2 w/ s5h1409 + xc3028 **

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mkrufky:

iamlindoro_: that worked!

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mkrufky:

:-D

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iamlindoro_:

oh good!

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iamlindoro_:

now you have to send me pictures of the HD PVR. It's only fair ;)

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iamlindoro_:

(just kidding, of course)

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mkrufky:

heh

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mkrufky:

im done with my part of that project now

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mkrufky:

somebody else is doing stuff now instead

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iamlindoro_:

Nice, glad to hear progress is being made

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mkrufky:

that thing is so cool, though — i cant wait till i have one in my living room

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iamlindoro_:

you and me both!

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code-rr:

mkrufky: ye i am.

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code-rr:

mkrufky: atsc land.. my hvr 1600 doesnt lock yet :-S think drivers are not finished

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mkrufky:

code-rr: if you crack the thing open, does if have those chips i mentioned? (cypress fx2 = cy6081 something or other)

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mkrufky:

hvr1600 only supports ntsc mpeg encoder right now — atsc is work-in-progress

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code-rr:

mkrufky: figured that much :)

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code-rr:

mkrufky: actualy there is a chip mentioned when you plug it into windows w/ no drivers. Ill have to double check i dont have the thing with me

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mkrufky:

iamlindoro_: no more bogus recordings — yay!

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** mkrufky thanks iamlindoro_ SOOO much **

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iamlindoro_:

heh, you're very welcome, it was just a shot in the dark

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iamlindoro_:

That script has saved me more than a few times, with my random cycling of the backend

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mkrufky:

i think it couldnt hurt to put that in the 020 branch, anyway.... with the storage groups hardcoded as disabled

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mkrufky:

hopefully somebody will do that................

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iamlindoro_:

yeah, simply commenting out lines 103–108 should do it, it would then just return an error about specifying directories if you didn't use --dir

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iamlindoro_:

anyway, off to go run w/ the dog, glad that helped!

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mkrufky:

ok, cool — ttyl

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** mkrufky dives back into kernelspace **

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mkrufky:

brb

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aleksandar:

when setting up the mythtv backend, is it okay to use a hostname instead of an IP address? i just set up a backend and a separate frontend using hostname "vanadium" but the frontend cant connect to the backend

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directhex:

aleksandar, did the text say "hostname or ip address", or just "ip address"?

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aleksandar:

IP address, i believe

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aleksandar:

i just made some changes, it seems the backend mythtv-setup requires IP addresses, but the frontends can use either the backend IP address OR the backend hostname

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directhex:

yep. any guesses why?

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aleksandar:

nope :-/

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directhex:

the backend needs to know which ethernet interface to bind to. for example, you might hav 2 network cards, an internal and an external, and only want the backend to talk on the internal interface, or there's the loopback address which isn't networked at all

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directhex:

ip addresses are per-interface, hostnames are not

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aleksandar:

oh, i see

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aleksandar:

that makes sense

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Hoxzer:

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Miranda_:

Stupid question of the day – If I leave my mythbox watching Live TV, and turn the TV off and walk away, it records EVERYTHING on that channel. I'm using 55GB of my 80GB HD – Is this normal?

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JackEStorm:

any fixes for QGLContext::makeCurrent()? and no UseOpenGLPainter=0 doesn't work

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J-e-f-f-A:

Miranda_: Yes, but I believe it splits the recording at the show boundaries, and livetv is the first thing to get expired when space is needed.

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Miranda_:

J-e-f-f-A, So I should expect my recordings drive to stay full all the time?

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J-e-f-f-A:

Miranda_: Yep. ;-)

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Miranda_:

haha

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J-e-f-f-A:

Miranda_: Here's my recordings drive: Size: 932G Used: 830G Avail: 103G 90% /MythLVM

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Miranda_:

haha

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J-e-f-f-A:

Miranda_: And my storage is small compared to some here — many have > 2TB space online...

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Miranda_:

hmm, okay

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Miranda_:

I'm seriously debating buying more drives.. but not yet :)

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Miranda_:

this is my first DVR/PVR, 80GB is a lot for me right now

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J-e-f-f-A:

Miranda_: Once you're hooked, there's no going back! I've also got a 320GB drive for my 'videos' — that's got 270GB on it currently... ;-)

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jmpdelos:

has anyone else seen the error: QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap

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jmpdelos:

QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin()

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jmpdelos:

Segmentation fault (core dumped)

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jmpdelos:

when entering mythweather?

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Mathieu_:

Hi all

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Jonny88:

can somebody recommend a DVB-T TV card for me please, only need 1 tuner, and a low price

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Hoochster:

iamlindoro_, thanks for the reply, will try that now, I was assuming it wasn't working cuz the ragetv site is being updated. will try with the bash -x

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Hoochster:

with bash -x I get bash scripts/tvscript.sh mythconverg username password /MythVideo localhost scripts/ragetvgrab-0.5.pl and just sits there

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Hoochster:

if you goto ragetv.com it says new site coming soon, so that's why I assumed it was just due to not being able to get to that

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K`tin:

Anyone know where I could find some info on getting svideo out from my video card?

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Dagmar:

k'tin: wiki.mythtv.org actually

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K`tin:

thanks

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Hoochster:

GreyFoxx, you up yet this afternoon?

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K`tin:

is there some configuration I should play with, I can't seem to find a howto

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Hoochster:

btw iamlindoro_ I finally did get it where the 360 see's my mythvideo files but I get error on playing

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Hoochster:

I had to manually add to the database a startupvideodir for the backend server

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Hoochster:

being as I didn't have a frontend on it

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Hoochster:

but still not playing but at least it sees them now

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Hoochster:

progress lol

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Hoochster:

K`tin, usually the info is in your xorg.conf what kind of video card?

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K`tin:

TNT2

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K`tin:

Nvidia

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Dagmar:

So just look at the README that came with the driver

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K`tin:

ok

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Hoochster:

for my frontends that use svideo I have this defined in the Screen section:

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Hoochster:

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Hoochster:

Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"

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Hoochster:

Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"

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Hoochster:

Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"

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Hoochster:

Option "TVOverScan" "0.7"

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Hoochster:

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Dagmar:

With their cards it's generally just a matter of setting the refresh rates and resolution to something a TV can actually handle.

[18:56:27]

J-e-f-f-A:

TNT2 – Isn't that like 1-million years old????

[18:56:28]

Dagmar:

i.e., 60Hz vertical, and no higher than 1024x768 resolution. A TNT2 I think tops out at 800x600 tho.

[18:56:48]

K`tin:

little old yeah, Where can I find the readme or where would the driver be to find the readme?

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Dagmar:

On their website, inside the driver .sh you got from nVidia, etc.

[18:57:23]

Dagmar:

IIRC you will be using the 7xxx driver

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henkpoley:

What does myth use to decide if a channel is the same?

[18:59:32]

henkpoley:

Aka, I have BBC1 on analog and on digital

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J-e-f-f-A:

henkpoley: Here in the US, they'll have different channel numbers.

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henkpoley:

What should I do to let it pick the digital first (it seem to do with some channels already)

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J-e-f-f-A:

henkpoley: Set that tuner's priority higher than the analog tuner.

[19:00:35]

henkpoley:

I've set the BBC1 to the same channum

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henkpoley:

But the callsigns are different

[19:01:29]

justinh:

if the callsigns are different they'll be treated as different channels

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henkpoley:

I've seen it pick "Nederland 3" in digital already, has same 'name' though

[19:01:50]

justinh:

whatever the eff callsigns are. no use in the UK since we only have _names_ :P

[19:01:52]

henkpoley:

different callsign

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J-e-f-f-A:

henkpoley: IE: Analog channel 25 is just 25 – digital channel 25 is 25.1 or 25–1 .. etc...

[19:02:38]

henkpoley:

That's why I asked if someone knows the true way it picks :-P

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justinh:

the scheduler goes by callsigns

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henkpoley:

J-e-f-f-A: Never heard that

[19:03:30]

justinh:

so if you want channels to be treated differently make sure they have different callsigns

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henkpoley:

I'd rather like it to see them as the same

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J-e-f-f-A:

henkpoley: That's the way the US did it... ;-) Digital OTA channels have sub-channels, hence the dot or dash for the sub-channel number. Even if they don't have a sub-channel, the digital channel is .1 ...

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justinh:

so make the callsigns the same :)

[19:04:43]

justinh:

rest of the world is lucky. they don't get channels shuffling around every 3 months

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justinh:

cable & satellite providers in the UK are forever doing it, hell even terrestrial services aren't immune ffs

[19:05:28]

J-e-f-f-A:

justinh: Nah, we here in the US are locked down to what we can recieve – at least you guys can use sattelite tuners right in your myth boxes... :-(

[19:05:33]

justinh:

annoying and generally for no good reason other than they can

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justinh:

J-e-f-f-A: not in the UK if we want pay tv

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justinh:

there's no _legal_ solution for that which sits well with the provider T&Cs

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justinh:

sucky but that's Murdoch's empire for ya

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K`tin:

Hoochster: I can't seem to figure out how to turn it on. The card seems configured right but to tell it to use svideo out

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justinh:

how did one guy end up owning so much of the world's media anyway?

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J-e-f-f-A:

justinh: I though you guys had a pc sat card that had a smartcard interface to it... So you could use it in a pc legally...

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Hoochster:

K`tin, by specifying that in the xorg.conf and restarting x, it should force it out the svideo port

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justinh:

K`tin: configure it in xorg.conf. unless it's not gf4 or better in which case you're left with the rather pissy nvtv utility

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: The site it pulls from it tvrage.com, not ragetv.com. Just tested and it's still working here. You may need to try bash -x scripts/tvscript.sh dbname dbuser dbpassword moviehomedir sqlserverhost scripts/ragetvgrab-0.5.pl

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justinh:

J-e-f-f-A: that's the rub see – there's no licensed CAM available – and even the 3rd party (legally grey) one requires you put the viewing card in an 'official' STB when they roll the keys/algorithm

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Hoochster:

iamlindoro_, trying that now

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henkpoley:

Odd, it seems to have recorded from DVB for a channel that does not have the same callsign as the analog it was programmed for

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: You can pastebin any output and I'll take a quick look at it

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justinh:

henkpoley: I might be mistaken – i.e. it might go by channel name then callsign. the scheduler is complicated

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justinh:

the mysql query for the scheduler is long. like 300 lines or so long

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henkpoley:

Will change the names on the analog stations

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henkpoley:

justinh: :-P

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: editing out any passwords, of course

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justinh:

henkpoley: you can give tuners higher priority than others IIRC

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justinh:

so if you'd rather digital recordings over analogue (and who wouldn't)...

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henkpoley:

Probably already has, it started a DVB-C recording before starting a second analog recording

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justinh:

shows have priorities, channels can have.. and I'm pretty sure tuner inputs can too

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Hoochster:

not worried no external access! :) http://pastebin.com/m2f39646e

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justinh:

gawd getting wrecked on a sunday afternoon is not a good idea when there's a lot to do

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Hoochster:

heh justinh

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justinh:

one glass of wine with sunday lunch == bottle

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justinh:

oops!

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justinh:

(hic)

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justinh:

had to overcome a bit of my fear of heights today to wash the windows. ffs. I hate heights. how the eff I'm gonna fix a dish up later in the year is beyond me

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CCFL_Man3:

i peaked my c band dish to the max it can be

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justinh:

squeegeeing a window is one thing. putting holes in brick with a masonry drill is something else

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CCFL_Man3:

i think i did a good job

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Hoochster:

bbiab iamlindoro_ if u have anything for me to try just let me know. thanks for helping. gotta unload some stuff from the truck

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: It's possible a mismatch between your and my versions on MySQL is to blame here... In particular on line NOIMDB="SELECT filename FROM videometadata WHERE inetref = "00000000" AND filename LIKE \"$MOVIEHOME%\""

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CCFL_Man3:

this power inserter i have only outputs 18v

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: I would *try* removing that percent sign at the end, and possibly replacing the quotes with single ticks in various places, I know that's one of those things that have been problems in the past

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iamlindoro_:

no guarantee, but it appears to be hanging on the grep because it never receives any output from the select query

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CCFL_Man3:

i'm glad the transponder i wanted is a vertical one or i still would be pulling my hair out

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iamlindoro_:

And once we adjust the select to work properly for your version of MySQL, it ought to work correctly

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** justinh goes for a lie down **

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iamlindoro_:

Also, if you whatever reason your imported TV stuff has an IMDB number of anything but 00000000 (the default), it would also fail

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iamlindoro_:

anyway, back to Die Hard 4

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CCFL_Man3:

come to think of it, the power inserter i have only works with bandstacked lnbs, i should have gotten the pico one

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CCFL_Man3:

crap, i'll need a powered splitter or some inserter

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code-er:

man, the listing in mythweb is soo big!!! to many sources

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code-er:

to bad theres no way to filter the sources there lol

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Hoochster:

iamlindoro_, will try and let ya know, thanks for the input. I am running 5.0.45–5

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Hoochster:

thanks again, enjoy the movie

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CCFL_Man3:

iamlindoro_: i was thinking about it, and i realized most qam/atsc tuners only can tune one band at a time, not cable and off air

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alexvd_:

all getting a couple crashes on a regular basis that I can't track down in the logs. 1. I have mythphone logged onto my asterisk box for caller-id. I get dumped out to the desktop when it does the screen pop at times. 2. Mythfrontend hangs when at :30 minute and 1:00 hr intervals. Sometimes it just pauses other times it just hangs and i have to exit back to the main screen. Anyone seen these?

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J-e-f-f-A:

alexvd_: No, but the :00 and :30 pauses sound like you don't have guide data loaded...

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alexvd_:

Well this is on a slavefrontend and I do have the guide data loaded from the backend properly

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alexvd_:

I dont run mythfilldatabase on the slavebackend. Am I supposed to?

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J-e-f-f-A:

Nope.

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alexvd_:

I didnt think so. This just started to happen more frequently.

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alexvd_:

I have the optimize scripts running on the backend

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J-e-f-f-A:

alexvd_: I'd look in the frontend and backend logs when it happens to see what they're reporting...

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code-er:

if i changed the "channel num" in the databse, will that scerw up it in the listing

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atrus:

i don't suppose it's possible to have a 0.20.2 backend work with a 0.20.99 frontend properly? (the 0.20.99 frontend says it wants to upgrade the database schema)

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janneg:

atrus: no, it's not possible

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atrus:

damn. i've been using mythtv for a network accessable tv box, but if an ubuntu hardy frontend won't work with a debian etch backend, i might be out of luck.

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code-er:

atrus: jsut recompile

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atrus:

code-er: which?

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code-er:

atrus: wich ever :-P

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code-er:

atrus: i run trunk.its go awsome features

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atrus:

code-er: where would i find out what's new since 0.20.2?

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blizzow:

What's the best way to manually add some channels to my myth install? I'm only getting 2 of about 8 available qcam-256 channels that should be available during scans.

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blizzow:

The channels are: 51–1, 51–2, 60–2, 90–1, 90–2, 116–1, 116–2, and 117–1

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kdub:

scanning sucks doesnt it

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kdub:

the channels never show up as 51–1 or whatever

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kdub:

i dont know how to add them manually

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kdub:

heh

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jarle:

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blizzow:

I'm so confused with channel management in myth

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henkpoley:

Can I have both analog and DVB channels on the same "video source" ?

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justinh:

henkpoley: if the lineups are the same it's a good idea to

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henkpoley:

Thank you

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justinh:

blizzow: and what the scan finds is generally what's available to you unencrippled. assuming you're using the right frequency table

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henkpoley:

That will prob fix my recording DVB vs. Analog prob

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henkpoley:

I had defined another Video source

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henkpoley:

To not meddle with my existing setup

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henkpoley:

justinh: but you probably can't use the same channums then?

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justinh:

henkpoley: no you can't AFAIK

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blizzow:

justinh: I'm pretty sure I'm using the right frequency table. I only get lock on two channels 51–1 and 51–2. I'm just wondering how I can manually add the others.

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justinh:

I've never mixed sources personally

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henkpoley:

What is the appropriate thing to do then ?

[21:07:53]

justinh:

henkpoley: suck it & see, as they say

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justinh:

blizzow: well, that might be all your cable co is giving you unencrypted

[21:08:17]

henkpoley:

Currently channum=1 DVB-C and analog, doesn't work

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** justinh goes to watch some more recordings **

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kdub:

http://blogs.snapstream.com/2008/02/07/more-o . . . auge-hd-pvr/

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kdub:

they are still saying first quarter

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kdub:

and still no pictures

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kdub:

how does that work

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iamlindoro_:

I wouldn't release a picture of something I didn't have plastics for, either

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iamlindoro_:

Otherwise it would just be a hunk of circuit board and not be the best publicity in the world

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Hoochster:

iamlindoro_, still hashing this out heh, but question for you, in your script you have NOIMDB looking for inetref of the 00's is there a reason to respecify the MythVideo direcotry? isn't that all that is going to be in the database anyways is that home dir?

[21:15:34]

iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: It's there for future compatibility reasons, it can probably be safely removed for now, but will be necessary in the future

[21:15:38]

Hoochster:

reason I ask, is just doing a query, I keep getting errors no matter what way I try if I try and specify that directory. but if I take it out, it finds the files in the directory. I have other issues on the CLEANUP_METADATA which I will ask next heh just trying to see the proper way I should be doing this

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Hoochster:

hmm wonder why I can't get the query to complete without error if I put that in there then.

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: This is almost certainyl all caused by mysql query changes between versions

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Hoochster:

ya no doubt

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Hoochster:

1 sec will paste the other errors I am getting

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Hoochster:

which again u might not be able to help

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Hoochster:

http://pastebin.com/d7de5b11b

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henkpoley:

Ah.. you need to set both freqid and mplexid/serviceid on the same channel id

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Hoochster:

no doubt I need to set the update to match the noimdb heh

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Hoochster:

maybe that will fix it let met see heh

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Yep, again it's likely syntax differences

[21:19:04]

iamlindoro_:

but I gotta get some food right now, can look at this mor later

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Hoochster:

k man thanks for the replies. no worries, not your problem heh. thanks again, hopefully i can figure it out

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code-er:

"2008-02–10 16:20:56.630 NVP: prebuffering pause

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code-er:

what does that mean

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DustyBin:

anyone here use digital out of your soundcard what feeds into a surround sound 5.1 amp ?

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DustyBin:

so you could watch a DVD DTS film in surround sound on mythtv

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jarle:

code-er: That's a nvidia related problem, as far as I understand...

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code-er:

jarle: any way to fix?

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jarle:

code-er: there are some suggestions on the wiki I seem to remember..

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code-er:

ok any one know if there is a way to disable a source (temporarly) via database?

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stowaway-atwork:

hey iamlindoro_ u know the meta cleaner script u made. how long does it normally take?

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Hoochster:

stowaway-atwork, I am having issues too, and iamlindoro_ and I have come to the conclusion it is an sql version problem. I am working on parsing the proper commands for the newer sql. if I come up with something I will let you know. I finally got one of the lines right, bout to start on #2 heh

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[21:51:39]

Miranda_:

I just got mythweb installed, I have another PC running apache as the httpd server on my router PC... Is there an easy way to log in to both the router's httpdocs as well as the mythweb interface through one webserver at port 80?

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xris:

Miranda_: mod_proxy?

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xris:

or just use a subdirectory

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Miranda_:

xris, I can't put /var/www/htdocs/mythweb on my current webserver and have it work, can I?

[22:00:42]

xris:

you could, yes.

[22:01:11]

xris:

this works for .20, too: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . hweb/INSTALL

[22:01:21]

xris:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . .conf.apache

[22:01:39]

sulan:

Miranda_: I'd guess that you will have troubles listing recordings and such because mythweb assumes (correct me if i'm wrong) that the recordings are stored locally

[22:02:08]

xris:

listing, no. downloading/streaming, yes

[22:02:22]

Miranda_:

I'd like mythweb to be externally accessable, but not as the default index

[22:02:41]

Miranda_:

I guess I could make the mythweb machine the default web server, and load all my static junk on it

[22:02:47]

Miranda_:

I don't get *that* much traffic

[22:03:26]

xris:

Miranda_: the static stuff won't work inside of mythweb's tree unless you tweak some of the rewrite rules.

[22:03:57]

Miranda_:

hmm, I wonder

[22:04:00]

xris:

have you tried just putting itthere and seeing if it works?

[22:04:19]

xris:

lots of people (and most of the packaged versions) install it at /mythweb URI so I know it works

[22:04:20]

kdub:

i wonder if xris's IRC client alerts him on 'mythweb'

[22:04:24]

Miranda_:

what if I bind another ddns hostname to my IP and use virtual servers

[22:04:33]

xris:

kdub: you 'd be correct

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xris:

Miranda_: that's what I do

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xris:

just make SURE that you' secure it with a password

[22:04:54]

Miranda_:

I don't have a domain name, just a dynamic hostname

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Miranda_:

xris, that's a given :)

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xris:

you'd be surprised how many people don't

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stowaway-atwork:

hoochester- i did an expirement last night.. i have a huge tv show database. so i decided to cut it down to 1 show 2 seasons. it worked like a charm.

[22:10:31]

stowaway-atwork:

but when i put my whole database in it stalled. although i didnt leave it for hours like u did

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iamlindoro_:

Now *that's* interesting

[22:11:07]

iamlindoro_:

Guess it's not the queries after all (or possibly not)

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Hoochster:

so is it normal for a huge library iamlindoro_ for it to just sit there

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Hoochster:

till it is done?

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iamlindoro_:

I really wouldn't know, I consider my library pretty large at hundreds of episodes, and it's always been fine

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iamlindoro_:

starts off right away

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Hoochster:

what ver of sql u run?

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iamlindoro_:

hmmmm

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iamlindoro_:

5.0

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Hoochster:

then version shouldn't be an issue

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Hoochster:

running it right now and it is just sitting after the +grep -v '^filename$'

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iamlindoro_:

until you guys, everyone's always reported success, but perhaps you guys have many more files than the others

[22:13:29]

iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: try running just the query from the command line

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Hoochster:

well I have removed all movies etc from the db and JUST left the tv rips in there and it still hangs

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stowaway-atwork:

how long does it take normlaly til u get some text after u run it?

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Hoochster:

I did and I get an output iamlindoro_

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iamlindoro_:

ie mysql -umythtv -hlocalhost -pmythtv mythconverg -e 'SELECT filename FROM videometadata WHERE inetref = 00000000 AND filename LIKE "/MythVideo%";

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Hoochster:

that's how I verified the query was fine

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Hoochster:

ya that works

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Hoochster:

it spits out the filenames

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stowaway-atwork:

I only left mine for 20mins coz i had to go. i was planning to leave it all day on saturday

[22:14:47]

iamlindoro_:

stowaway-atwork: It begins right away (and requires that you approve each plotline) so it's not something you leave

[22:14:51]

jabberwo1:

I have a problem with dvd playback... is this a good place to ask questions?

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Hoochster:

although I put the extra \'s in there my query looks like this iamlindoro_

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henkpoley:

Using same sourceid ('video source') for bot DVB and analog doesn't seem to work that well after all.. (can't use analog at the moment.. only snow)

[22:16:07]

Hoochster:

mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -e "SELECT filename FROM videometadata WHERE inetref = "00000000" AND filename LIKE \"/MythVideo%\";"

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stowaway-atwork:

in the forum u said it loops on weird files.. when it did that does it say anything or could that be whats causing it to hang?

[22:16:33]

iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Not strictly necessary from the command line (necessary from the script, though) but that would work too

[22:16:41]

stowaway-atwork:

If i cant get it to work ill just put each tv show in one at a time and see when it stops.

[22:16:58]

iamlindoro_:

stowaway-atwork: negative, it's *not* stopping at a certain point

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Hoochster:

ya it works I get info like /MythVideo/TVRips/Directory/Season.3/Filename.avi

[22:17:19]

Hoochster:

to be precise

[22:17:21]

iamlindoro_:

It's a loop, so it would go through them until it stops... the fact that it hangs indicates a syntax difference between our systems

[22:17:38]

jabberwo1:

Is there a good place to ask questions about mythtv problems?

[22:17:39]

iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: give me a line of ouput from that query, I have a theory

[22:17:57]

Hoochster:

like /MythVideo/TVRips/Stargate.SG-1/Season.9/Stargate-=SG-1–9x03-Origin.avi

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Hoochster:

sorry

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iamlindoro_:

I wonder if there's a character in there than chokes it

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Hoochster:

not the = it is a -

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Hoochster:

I typed it lol 2 diff pc's vnc don't like to cut/paste heh

[22:18:29]

iamlindoro_:

not that there should be

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Hoochster:

http://pastebin.com/d238c249e

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iamlindoro_:

what distro are you both running?

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stowaway-atwork:

mythbuntu

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Hoochster:

Debian Lenny

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: run the query *with* the grep and see what happens

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Hoochster:

same thing

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Hoochster:

spits all that

[22:20:05]

Hoochster:

I didn't put the > &6 thing

[22:20:09]

Hoochster:

that pukes of course on a command line

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iamlindoro_:

good, so the grep isn't the issue

[22:20:33]

iamlindoro_:

hmmm

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jarle:

xris: You still there?

[22:20:54]

xris:

y

[22:20:56]

xris:

sort of

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Miranda_:

xris, when I installed mythweb, I ended up with two dirs in my htdocs: mythweb and htdig.. Is it safe to simply delete the htdig directory and copy the contents of mythweb to /var/www/htdocs/localhost/ ?

[22:21:24]

Hoochster:

http://pastebin.com/d67d89aef

[22:21:28]

Hoochster:

is with the grep line

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Hoochster:

same just without the database formatting

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xris:

Miranda_: I have no idea what htdig is.. not related to mythweb

[22:22:00]

iamlindoro_:

good, that's as it should be

[22:22:04]

Hoochster:

cool

[22:22:04]

xris:

Miranda_: read the INSTALL file I linked you to earlier

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jarle:

xris: just found a new little bug in mythweb in latest trunk. In the program listings, in the hover menu all programs has airtime from 01 to 01....

[22:22:14]

Miranda_:

xris, oh, I didn't see you linked a file

[22:22:18]

Hoochster:

so think it is just cuz I got so many files?

[22:22:51]

iamlindoro_:

hoochster, how many are we talking about here? I am formulating a theory

[22:22:56]

jarle:

xris: however, when you go to program details the information is correct..

[22:23:01]

Hoochster:

just checked only has 1200 something files for what I am trying to test with

[22:23:02]

stowaway-atwork:

150 gig for me

[22:23:05]

Miranda_:

xris, got it

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stowaway-atwork:

no including hte movies that have imdb data

[22:23:19]

Hoochster:

like I said I removed the movies from the db for the test

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xris:

Miranda_: I didn't link to a file. linked to a web page

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Hoochster:

only working with the tvrips

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iamlindoro_:

hmmm, I wonder whether it's filling up the allocated size for >&6 somehow

[22:23:46]

Hoochster:

how would I check that

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iamlindoro_:

you wouldn't

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iamlindoro_:

but try this

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Hoochster:

heh

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iamlindoro_:

change: NOIMDB="SELECT filename FROM videometadata WHERE inetref = "00000000" AND filename LIKE \"$MOVIEHOME%\""

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iamlindoro_:

to:

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iamlindoro_:

NOIMDB="SELECT filename FROM videometadata WHERE inetref = "00000000" AND filename LIKE \"$MOVIEHOME%\" LIMIT 100"

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xris:

jarle: you sure you're completely up to date? works fine for me

[22:25:06]

iamlindoro_:

and try rerunning

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iamlindoro_:

that would limit it to 100 at a time.. if that works, my theory is likely correct

[22:25:29]

stowaway-atwork:

is the whole script all just sql?

[22:25:31]

Hoochster:

spit funky stuff out let me look

[22:25:37]

stowaway-atwork:

i cant do anything right now. im at work on windows :(

[22:25:38]

iamlindoro_:

stowaway-atwork: no

[22:25:46]

iamlindoro_:

was talking to hoochster, anyway

[22:25:51]

stowaway-atwork:

yeah i know

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jarle:

xris: it's the latest weekly trunk build for mythbuntu...

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Hoochster:

1 sec iamlindoro_

[22:26:09]

xris:

yeah, nowhere near new enough

[22:26:09]

iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: It should start looking up shows and present you with info on the first one to approve the plot

[22:26:20]

xris:

kormoc's been updating dozens of files daily for the last week orso

[22:26:37]

Hoochster:

http://pastebin.com/d6c2d065f

[22:26:51]

xris:

packages are not "latest trunk"... one of the reasons the devs don't like packages of svn trunk.

[22:26:59]

jarle:

xris: oki, I'll just have to wait until next week then :)

[22:27:04]

iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: you are missing perl modules

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Hoochster:

heh k

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xris:

or just check out mythweb from trunk and don't use a package..

[22:27:28]

Hoochster:

I see that now

[22:27:34]

Hoochster:

let me see if I can install em and try again

[22:27:42]

iamlindoro_:

yup, then it looks like it's going to work

[22:28:03]

Hoochster:

ya cool

[22:28:07]

Hoochster:

installing simple now

[22:28:09]

Hoochster:

was there another?

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iamlindoro_:

they're all listed at the top of the ragetvgrab script

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Hoochster:

k looking

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iamlindoro_:

there are about twelve you need, easiest to install with CPAN

[22:29:05]

iamlindoro_:

you should havemany of them by default, however

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Hoochster:

heh not real good at that cpan so always apt-getted heh

[22:29:19]

Hoochster:

but will look here

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stowaway-atwork:

so is the problem just missing some packages?

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iamlindoro_:

it's going to be upgly to work with if you keep using bash -x, btw, I would stop using that now

[22:30:00]

Hoochster:

heh understood

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Hoochster:

mind explaining how to do the cpan thing or is it too much to explain

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iamlindoro_:

stowaway-atwork: No, the problem is having to many files and filling up the buffer... the limit line will allow you to work at them 100 at a time, though

[22:31:02]

iamlindoro_:

cpan -i LWP::Simple

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iamlindoro_:

will install LWP::Simple

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Hoochster:

ahh that easy ehh lol

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iamlindoro_:

yep

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stowaway-atwork:

oh okay. so I just change that line /\ up there?

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Hoochster:

lmao k

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Hoochster:

thought it was more difficult one time that I had messed with it lmao

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Hoochster:

thanks

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iamlindoro_:

stowaway-atwork: yes, and if you are like Hoochster you may need to install some perl modules, but you may have most/all of them in mythbuntu already

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Hoochster:

I assume defaults all work fine

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: defaults?

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stowaway-atwork:

will cpan -i LWP install them?

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Hoochster:

on the questions, I see some require info heh

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stowaway-atwork:

if i dont have them

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stowaway-atwork:

i should have htem tho.. right? because it did work when i only put in 1 show.

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iamlindoro_:

stowaway-atwork: cpan -i name of module will, yes.. LWP::Simple was the name of the module

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iamlindoro_:

stowaway-atwork: yes, good point, you have them

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stowaway-atwork:

ohh okay

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iamlindoro_:

you should just need the limit line to make sure you don't overflow the buffer

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iamlindoro_:

and I'll come up with something more permanent

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stowaway-atwork:

so with that limit line. will it stilldo the whole database?

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Hoochster:

thanks for all the troubleshooting iamlindoro_

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iamlindoro_:

looks like mkfifo has a default size, this should be an easy fix instead of using that limit, hang on

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iamlindoro_:

stowaway-atwork: It will do it in 100 show chunks, and need to be rerun... am working on a better fix right now

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rinaldi_:

hi, my mythbuntu frontends aren't loading at all, i can only see the process in mystem monitor and my wireless indicator is flashing... when i run mythfilldatabase i get that the "database is not open", it "cannot connect to 192.168.0.6" and "No error type from QSqlError? Strange..." any ideas?

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iamlindoro_:

what an awful manpage

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aquarius:

For MythVideo, I can set the default folder where video cover art is stored. Where's that location saved in the mythtv database?

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iamlindoro_:

for reference, you can probably set the limit much larger, ie 300 or so

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Hoochster:

aquarius, in Settings

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rinaldi_:

here is the full output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55535/

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aquarius:

Hoochster: aha, in VideoArtworkDir. Nice

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aquarius:

just discovered the Settings table :)

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Hoochster:

ya only reason I know that is I had to manually add it for my backends hostname heh

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Hoochster:

what would the cpan install be for POSIX?

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Hoochster:

and I assume the Getopt::Long qw etc is just Getopt::Long?

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: You probably already have it, I woul;dn't sweat that one

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jams:

anybody in here use xen? if the disk performance close to native?

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Hoochster:

ya seems to be working now, did set to 300

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iamlindoro_:

Good good

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Hoochster:

no no GOOD GOOD thanks to you! :)

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iamlindoro_:

I am working on a fix, looks like it is filling up the pipe for sure, just not sure how to increase the default size yet

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iamlindoro_:

you are welcome, no problem

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Hoochster:

rutroh error

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iamlindoro_:

It's a fun script when it works... and I thought *I* had a lot of TV...

[22:43:41]

Hoochster:

more sql syntax heh maybe I changed something while troubleshooting this heh let me look at original lol

[22:43:49]

Hoochster:

lmao

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stowaway-atwork:

iam do u have folder.jpg for drama / comedy ect?

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sebrock:

is it considered safe to backup a mounted filesystem using tar?

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Hoochster:

well total iamlindoro_ I have about 2500 files

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aquarius:

If I'm making cover art for videos in MythVideo, how big should that cover art image ideally be?

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Hoochster:

bout 1200ish of them are tv episodes

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Hoochster:

rest are dvdrips

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sebrock:

and running the command from this filesystem

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iamlindoro_:

stowaway-atwork: Me? No, I just put folder.jpgs in my show name directories. Usually download a show poster for each of them. Also, when possible, I try to get per-season folder.jpgs. My script doesn't do anything with folder.jpg, though

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stowaway-atwork:

yeah i know the script doesnt.

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stowaway-atwork:

im just trying to get mine looking all pretty

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stowaway-atwork:

wondering if anyone had any icons i could steal

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iamlindoro_:

stowaway-atwork: Heh, good idea, though, maybe I *should* do that

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stowaway-atwork:

ive got a good one for sci fi

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stowaway-atwork:

coz of teh sci fi channel

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iamlindoro_:

I could probably set up a little script in the suite to get the first google image result for "Showname poster"

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Hoochster:

yup that was it iamlindoro_ sweet

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Nice. FYI (and most users will never have to deal with this)...

[22:46:35]

Hoochster:

so I am gonna have to say YES lmao for each one of these lol

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iamlindoro_:

Any ones you tried it on but failed while getting perl modules...

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stowaway-atwork:

have u ever used/seen media portal?

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iamlindoro_:

probably had their imdb # set to "1" (that's to prevent the script being rerun on them)... so you if you want to rerun the script on those few, you need to go into video manager for them and set it back to "0"

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iamlindoro_:

stowaway-atwork: I've seen it, never used it

[22:47:38]

iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: The only one I'm aware of you'll have to do that for is Lost 4x01, since you pastebinned that output

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Hoochster:

dunno don't think it updated

[22:48:02]

Hoochster:

so I still had to do it again

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Requiring that the user confirm them was a necessary evil.. sometimes the TVRage output is *fucked up*

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stowaway-atwork:

well i think mythtv is bettre in everything besides tv series. media portal has an awesome tv series plug in. looks really cool.

[22:48:06]

Hoochster:

it is working now

[22:48:21]

Hoochster:

understand heh shoulda left it at 100 lol and do this in baby steps lmao

[22:48:31]

Hoochster:

if I break out of it, it won't hurt anything right

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Glad to hear it. Yeah, it's a pain to get through them, but only have to do it once and WAY easier than putting all that info in yourself

[22:48:51]

Hoochster:

indeed

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Hoochster:

thanks for the time to do this

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iamlindoro_:

you're very welcome

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Hoochster:

now fix my xbox lol

[22:49:12]

iamlindoro_:

Mmmmmmmno

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Hoochster:

heh

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Hoochster:

did you read that I did finally get it showing the MythVideo directory

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iamlindoro_:

Yeah, I read, but I was skimming and didn't pay attention to how

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Hoochster:

just when I select to play it, xbox comes back saying it lost connection and gives an error

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justinh:

1200 videos are tv episodes? man where do you file squirrels keep it all?

[22:49:41]

Hoochster:

so baby steps lol

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Hoochster:

lmao justinh

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stowaway-atwork:

I have 2 t.bs

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Hoochster:

u don't wanna know

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justinh:

stowaway-atwork: media portal sucks IMHO. I tried to set it up once. can't do much from its GUI setup screens. couldn't find the manual. gave up after about 6 hours

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iamlindoro_:

I'm upwards of 2 TB now too, but it's relatively few (compared to you crazie) movies, it's mostly Blu-ray and HD-DVD rips that I ddecided not to transcode

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iamlindoro_:

er crazies

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stowaway-atwork:

Justin- i definetly prefer mythtv. load/and receation time. is much faster. theres just more plugins for media portal that i miss

[22:51:50]

justinh:

as for other apps being 'better' than mythtv at dealing with tv series – I wonder how many tv series sitting on people's hard drives have LoL in the filenames (etc)

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iamlindoro_:

justinh: That's got to be rhetorical, as the answer is LOTS

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justinh:

the answer is more than likely 99% of them IMHO

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Hoochster:

I rename all my files lol

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Hoochster:

no pun intended

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sulan:

with the mythweb streaming, have anyone a suggestion for a player that is able to actually seek in the streamed video?

[22:53:00]

stowaway-atwork:

tv series sorts it all out even with all the lol and eztv and shit

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justinh:

anyway for right or for wrong, mythtv doesn't have all that stuff because (dann dann dahhhhh!) nobody's written it

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GreyFoxx:

sulan: There is nothing in the server side to support seeking forward

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stowaway-atwork:

yeah i know

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stowaway-atwork:

i wish i knew how

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stowaway-atwork:

im going to learn one day

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Hoochster:

GreyFoxx, heh you got braincells now?

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justinh:

so do I, which is why I'm learning

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jams:

GreyFoxx- have you used physical disk access instead of virtual disk with vmware?

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stowaway-atwork:

is it all C?

[22:53:53]

justinh:

I've already sullied the code with my own. muhahahaha

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sulan:

GreyFoxx: well, from what it seems, it handles byte ranges so seeking should be possible

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justinh:

stowaway-atwork: c++

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GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: Yeah, Writing some patches to the Joystick menu stuff rightn ow since I just picked up a wireless gamepad :)

[22:54:15]

GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: Ask and I'll try to answer

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GreyFoxx:

sulan: If it accepts byte ranges I would expect so, but I'd be happily suprised if it worked without patching the server end

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justinh:

stowaway-atwork: I think it's as easy to sit down & pick up c++ as it is for other languages. I just never 'got' python and still don't

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GreyFoxx:

jams: only once as a test

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iamlindoro_:

Am trying very very hard since my last mythvideo array crash to make my minimum media resolution 720p. There is nothing besides nightly recordings of The Daily Show) on the system right now that's not hi-def... it's not as hard as I imagined to get pretty much everything I care about in HD now.

[22:55:00]

stowaway-atwork:

does mythtv have a music video streaming thingy?

[22:55:09]

CCFL_Man2:

GreyFoxx: i'm an official c bander!

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GreyFoxx:

jams: I usually just use the virtual disks

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jams:

ok..just wondering if the i/o was any better

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stowaway-atwork:

whats python?

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GreyFoxx:

jams: Didn't really test it much

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iamlindoro_:

A big snake, but that's not important right now

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justinh:

somewhere out there is a (buggy) python plugin thingy. much fanfare about it was caused when it first came along but not heard any mention of it for ages

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stowaway-atwork:

ahh

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justinh:

stowaway-atwork: a lot of media portal plugins are based on it

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GreyFoxx:

I think 0.22 needs a remote control/lirc config wizard and joystick wizard added to mythcontrols

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stowaway-atwork:

based on python?

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justinh:

somebody's even hacking on ruby bindings for mythtv now (!)

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justinh:

stowaway-atwork: as far as I know yeah. definitely the case for XBMC

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Hoochster:

heh. ok, I am trying to get my Xbox360's to play the MythVideo files. To even get them to see the files, I had to manually add to my database the Master Backend's hostname for the fields of videostartupdir and such. that allows the xbox to see them now. but when I go to play them the 360 says The connection to your comptuer was lost. Make sure your computer is turned on, connected to your network, and is running media sharing

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Hoochster:

software. And gives a mickeysoft status code.

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GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: What kind of file/codec? The xbox360 player is quite limited

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Hoochster:

it should be xvid/divx files avi

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GreyFoxx:

no matroska, no mpeg* and a fw other codecs

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GreyFoxx:

ok, thos jsut play work

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Hoochster:

pretty much 99% of anything I rip is all in xvid or divx

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GreyFoxx:

did you do the Dec 4th update?

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Hoochster:

I am pretty sure I did

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GreyFoxx:

That adds the xvid/divx support

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GreyFoxx:

Check the date of your firmware just incase

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Hoochster:

k looking

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** GreyFoxx is getting a new flat screen this week and finally ordering the projector.. woop **

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GreyFoxx:

gonna be an interesting week.Time to rewire everything

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Hoochster:

D2.0.6683.0 ?

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GreyFoxx:

Gonna use the flatscreen for "regular " stuff and projector for movies and such

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iamlindoro_:

GreyFoxx: I adore mine... prepare to host everyone for every conceivable sports event :)

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stowaway-atwork:

what does the buggin pyton plugin do? im a bit slow but im also half working.

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GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: My TV is in use right now so I can't check mine :)

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justinh:

stowaway-atwork: basically lets you run python programs as plugins

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stowaway-atwork:

i use 52" lcd

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GreyFoxx:

iamlindoro_: heh

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CCFL_Man2:

GreyFoxx: aligning a c band dish is a royal pita

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stowaway-atwork:

so as in media portal plugins?

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Hoochster:

understood but pretty sure it got the update I never decline them

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GreyFoxx:

CCFL_Man2: So Iv'e heard

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GreyFoxx:

most people I know paid pros with gear to come do it

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justinh:

stowaway-atwork: as in python plugins. python is _allegedly_ easy to pick up. I beg to differ

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GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: run the backend with -vupnp

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stowaway-atwork:

ohhh okay

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GreyFoxx:

see what if anything it says when you try

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stowaway-atwork:

i thought u said media portal plugins were based on python

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iamlindoro_:

GreyFoxx: Speaking of paying pros, depending on your facility with it, I found that it was worth it to have the projector professionally calibrated

[23:00:38]

justinh:

stowaway-atwork: as far as I know some are yeah

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kdub:

if python isnt easy to pick up then what is?

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justinh:

kdub: c++

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Hoochster:

iamlindoro_, can I break out of this script and next time I run it it just takes off where I left off?

[23:00:48]

GreyFoxx:

I'm gonna ruhn both the projector and the TV off 1 frontend. But I'm gonna use 2 videocards. 1 X session for each

[23:00:55]

GreyFoxx:

so 2 instances of myth

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: yep

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kdub:

are you kidding?

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justinh:

kdub: nope

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CCFL_Man2:

GreyFoxx: i did get a lock on a signal with an fec of 7/8 with a 6 foot dish, after a week or so of aligning and playing with it i got it perfect, but it's 100 percent worth it

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: just make sure to Ctrl-C the hell out of it, you want to try to cancel out before the MySQL update happens

[23:01:39]

justinh:

not saying I know everything but I wrote a working mythtv plugin in under a week from almost zero experience. obviously depends what you're trying to do

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stowaway-atwork:

what did ur plugin do justinh?

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kdub:

it may have been easier to make a plugin for myth in c++

[23:02:16]

justinh:

kdub: I've looked at some python stuff before like XBMC plugins – couldn't figure out what the f. they were doing for love or money

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justinh:

stowaway-atwork: did is the correct word. it is no more!

[23:02:51]

kdub:

that probably has more to do with the people that wrote the program

[23:02:57]

stowaway-atwork:

what DID it do?

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justinh:

stowaway-atwork: allows you to set the frontend GUI size with uhhh arrows on the screen

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Hoochster:

GreyFoxx, http://pastebin.com/dd6af866

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justinh:

kdub: well, that must be the case for all of them then. besides it doesn't really matter with mythtv. it's c++ or nothing :D

[23:04:17]

kdub:

someone was working on python bindings

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justinh:

some say it's a bar to entry for newbies but then so is having to be able to read & write

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stowaway-atwork:

well im gonna start learning. (Even tho i dont even have a basic understanding of linux) so ill have my tv series plugin ready by 2015

[23:05:06]

GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: hmmm I've seen that error before

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justinh:

kdub: yeah as I said – much ado was made of it at first and now.. several months later.. nothing on the grapevine

[23:05:10]

GreyFoxx:

just trying to remember what it was

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Hoochster:

heh

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Hoochster:

I assume something that needs to be increased somewhere

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Hoochster:

and they say size doesn't matter

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CCFL_Man2:

does uhf share some of the catv band?

[23:06:05]

GreyFoxx:

people have seen that error when grabbing thumbnails via the upnp code

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Hoochster:

I think I have thumbnails disabled?

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Hoochster:

cuz of hd stuff

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Hoochster:

would that cause it

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GreyFoxx:

same underlying code is used to transmit the data

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GreyFoxx:

be it a file or a thumbnail

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justinh:

kdub: what I'm trying to get at is that I'm a big advocate of getting in there & having a go yourself. it looks much scarier than it is. until you reach the next level ;)

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GreyFoxx:

SendResponsefile() is used

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kdub:

well yeah

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kdub:

anyone could learn either

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justinh:

kdub: a lot of the stuff you're likely to want to do has examples in the code doing similar stuff already. all my stuff is borrowed somehow or other

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Hoochster:

well actually I am disabling the thumbnails on just the frontend, not the backend so maybe that wouldn't matter but let me check

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GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: It's not a thumnail problem. They just both are triggering it

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** GreyFoxx goes digging **

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justinh:

kdub: tell you something for nothing – it's more gratifying than mere theming!

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Hoochster:

ok GreyFoxx

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justinh:

but then, theming is gonna be way much more fun before 0.22 is upon us (yeah I know I said 0.22)

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justinh:

anyway. time for bed/ g'night all

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Miranda:

Okay, I'm lost – I recorded a program, and the only place it shows up is Manage Recordings> Previously Recorded. I can't watch it from there.. WHen I go to Media Library, there are a bunch of LiveTV recordings, but my show is not there

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Hoochster:

GreyFoxx, if you think of anything let me know. I appreciate the help.

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iamlindoro_:

Miranda: From the Watch recording page, press M and adjust your filter

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Miranda:

iamlindoro_, will that persist from now on, or will I need to adjust the filter every time I go in that page?

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iamlindoro_:

it's persistent

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GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: How big is the file you posted in that error ?

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Hoochster:

400mb

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Hoochster:

give or take

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GreyFoxx:

k

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GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: Kernel version?

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Hoochster:

2.6.22–3

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GreyFoxx:

k

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Hoochster:

almost said 2.6.24 heh but not on that particular server

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Miranda:

iamlindoro_, That worked – another issue, When I go to change "Group View" by remote, There is a combobox(drop down) of options, but I cannot change that from the remote

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Hoochster:

my setup if it matters is a master backend, 2 slave backends, and none of which are frontends as well. all frontends are standalones. I had to manually add to the database the VideoStartupDir for my MythVideo directory with the Master backends hostname before the xbox would even see the files.

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Miranda:

iamlindoro_, if I click the arrows through my mouse and vnc, I can adjust with the remote, but the remote will not drop the options

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iamlindoro_:

Miranda: I would talk to myth devs about that... but from here, there's no dropdown in group view, so perhaps its changed in SVN

[23:21:23]

Miranda:

iamlindoro_, And it seems like the "all programs" group filter does not include Live TV.. Or am I missing a setting?

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iamlindoro_:

That's right, All Programs *doesn't* include Live TV.

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Miranda:

Okay..

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iamlindoro_:

All Programs is all recordings that were actively recorded, Live TV is stuff you didn't tell it to record.

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iamlindoro_:

and which will shortly expire

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Miranda:

I'm just trying to get used to what's supposed to be there verses stuff that "should" be there

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iamlindoro_:

Your system is behaving as designed

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Miranda:

I guess i"ll leave it set to Live TV, that way if I want to flag something to not expire

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Miranda:

heh, I'll leave you guys alone for a bit longer then :)

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Hoochster:

iamlindoro_, so the script doesn't grab an image? thought I understood it did heh

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Once it's done, it generates one

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Hoochster:

ahh k

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Hoochster:

cool

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iamlindoro_:

It needs to complete first

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Hoochster:

heh great

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Hoochster:

lmao

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aquarius:

Is there anything I can do to make mythtv re-read my video cover art from the database other than exiting and re-starting mythfrontend?

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** Hoochster knows iamlindoro_ is sitting back laughing at Hoochster hitting y and enter over and over.. **

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iamlindoro_:

First it gets the plot info, then it generates thumbnails, then it generates correct length info

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Hoochster:

cool

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Naw, I had to do it myself

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Hoochster:

well it isn't any worse than when we do it via the frontend

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Hoochster:

just time consuming heh

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Hoochster:

still very cool script! :) so even though I breaked out of it earlier it will get the thumbnails for them too

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iamlindoro_:

yes, you will, the scripts are discrete

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iamlindoro_:

If you want to get all the thumbs done now (it's quite quick), you can do the following:

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iamlindoro_:

Comment out the line in metacleanup.sh that goes: bash $TVSCRIPT $DBNAME $DBUSER $DBPASSWORD $MOVIEHOME $SQLSERVER $RAGESCRIPT

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iamlindoro_:

then run metacleanup.sh, and it will do all the thumbnails and lengths, and you can come back to the plot stuff later by uncommenting it

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Hoochster:

no biggie I can let it do it after this batch of 300 lmao

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devinator:

is there a new version of mythweb that has builtin flash streaming?

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: I'm sure you will realize why I made it necessary to confirm the plot info, as if you approve one where tvRage doesn't have the plot info, you'll end up with a metadata entry something like "Battlestar Galactica – x"... just x.

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iamlindoro_:

devinator: yes, SVN Trunk has a flash player.

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devinator:

oh nice, does it work with the stable version of mythtv?

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iamlindoro_:

devinator: no

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devinator:

ack :(

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Hoochster:

to be quite honest iamlindoro_ I am pretty much saying Y to all cuz as you know with as many as I have it would be painful to read the output of each one lmao. so hoping they are all good but figure worse case scenario if not then I can go back and manually edit the entry

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Hoochster:

but I think the BSG worked out ok lol

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devinator:

well, thank you much for the info...

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: If you intend to just say yes and figure it out later, I can help you speed this way up

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Hoochster:

heh

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devinator:

not sure i want to upgrade my 3 backends and bootp box :/ dang. really want that, but always problems when upgrading hehe

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Hoochster:

I mean really if it doesn't have the proper info then I have to manually update it anyways right? heh

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xris:

devinator: .21 will be out in a few weeks

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Hoochster:

woot xris! :) good to hear. then time for even more good new stuff in trunk heh

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: yes, but then at least you will see the original filename

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Hoochster:

heh

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xris:

Hoochster: yeah. no clue what, though. heh. other than libmythui stuff

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xris:

eye candy

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Hoochster:

well good thing is iamlindoro_ is that I sort things in the directories so shouldn't be tough to figure out

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Hoochster:

xris just patiently looking forward to some sort of backend streaming heh

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: ok, hang on, let me see if I can rig you up to auto-confirm

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xris:

Hoochster: ah, there's that. hopefully that'll happen

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Hoochster:

hoping so! :)

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xris:

would be nice to get real flv support, too.. not the silly ffmpeg hack I'm using now

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Hoochster:

looking forward to someday being able to connect to mythweb change to a livetv channel and transcode it over the web! :)

[23:39:05]

Hoochster:

heh

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Hoochster:

all but a dream! :)

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: in tvscript.sh, it should auto-confirm if you just change "perl $RAGESCRIPT -v --dbhost=$SQLSERVER --dbname=$DBNAME --dbuser=$DBUSER --dbpass=$DBPASSWORD --prefix=$MOVIEHOME "$videofile"" to....

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devinator:

xris: oh nice!

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: perl $RAGESCRIPT -v --import --dbhost=$SQLSERVER --dbname=$DBNAME --dbuser=$DBUSER --dbpass=$DBPASSWORD --prefix=$MOVIEHOME "$videofile"

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devinator:

lotta new features?

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Then it'll just bust ass through everything

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Hoochster:

from 0.20 to 0.21 lmao ya just a few

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Hoochster:

lol

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Hoochster:

will look at that right now iamlindoro_

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iamlindoro_:

yeah, should ust be a matter of adding --import

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iamlindoro_:

may or may not work, have never tested it

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Hoochster:

looks like it is doing something lmao

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Hoochster:

guess will see

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Hoochster:

let me check the eps it is doing

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Hoochster:

appears to be working iamlindoro_ sweet

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devinator:

hooochster: .17 to .20 was a few new features :)

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Hoochster:

starting to get feeling back in my fingers

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Hoochster:

lol

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iamlindoro_:

There you go, that should massively abbreviate this process, should be done in a few minutes

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Hoochster:

heh cool

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Hoochster:

thank you

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iamlindoro_:

no problem

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Hoochster:

devinator, 0.21 rocks compared to 0.20 got tons of cool stuff

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iamlindoro_:

Mind you, you *will* have some fucked up looking episode names, but 99.5% should look perfect

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Hoochster:

lmao iamlindoro_ probably so heh, but should be easy to sort out. we shall see

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iamlindoro_:

Also, btw, you may have to set a similar limit 300 or so on the thumbscript and lengthscripts, btw

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devinator:

i use the tivo hd morethan myth though these days. cablecards are a must :/

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Hoochster:

doh

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iamlindoro_:

so if it hangs when it starts doing that, you know why

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Hoochster:

np will let ya know

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iamlindoro_:

Should be pretty obvious, change NOCOVER="SELECT filename FROM videometadata WHERE coverfile = \"No Cover\"" to NOCOVER="SELECT filename FROM videometadata WHERE coverfile = \"No Cover\" LIMIT 300"

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devinator:

still praying for some king of pci cablecard adapter heh

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iamlindoro_:

on thumbscript.sh

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devinator:

er ind

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devinator:

kind!

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iamlindoro_:

and ZERO_LENGTH="SELECT filename FROM videometadata WHERE length = 0 AND filename LIKE \"$MOVIEHOME%\"" to "ZERO_LENGTH="SELECT filename FROM videometadata WHERE length = 0 AND filename LIKE \"$MOVIEHOME%\" LIMIT 300"

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iamlindoro_:

on lengthscript.sh

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Hoochster:

thanks

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iamlindoro_:

devinator: never ever ever

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devinator:

yup heh

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iamlindoro_:

Hauppauge HD PVR will work perfectly on that score

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iamlindoro_:

I plan to buy five so far

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devinator:

so unfortunately myth will turn into pointless for most americans in 09

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Hoochster:

went ahead and added those limits cuz surely it will have the issue

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iamlindoro_:

devinator: not at ALL, Hauppauge is rescuing us

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Probably a safe bet

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devinator:

will it work with encrypted qam?

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Hoochster:

iamlindoro_, do you need a place to host the files? I run a site, instead of your own personal share heh

[23:47:46]

iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: I don't mind if you want to host them as well, but I really get so little traffic on them that it's no big deal at all

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iamlindoro_:

Plus it's fewer places to update when I sneak in a change (as I am right now ;) )

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Hoochster:

heh so you are updating them with this info?

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iamlindoro_:

Yeah, just going to tentatively limit each run to 300, and I'm adding a little selector to do only plots, only lengths, only thumbs, or all three

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Hoochster:

I run the hoochvdr.info website I know evil word heh

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devinator:

hdhomerun was worthless, i got a whopping 4 channels uncrypted with it

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iamlindoro_:

devinator: Sure, it'll work with anything with a component out, it takes the component and re-encodes it

[23:49:19]

iamlindoro_:

so it'll capture straight off your cable box and hardware encode to h.264

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Hoochster:

my parents love their hdhomerun, I didn't have a good enuf antenna here so gave it to them but plan on getting another with a better antenna

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devinator:

iamlindoro; cable connections have nothing to do with qam

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iamlindoro_:

well, straight off the component cables from your cable box, that is

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iamlindoro_:

devinator: no shit, I'm not an idiot, nobody said anything about QAM

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devinator:

heh easy spanky

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iamlindoro_:

devinator: idea being it'll work with encrypted QAM fine since your cable box will decrypt it and you're simply capturing the output

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devinator:

heh so its just lie firewire cap right now then

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devinator:

like

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iamlindoro_:

more or less

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iamlindoro_:

although it avoids 5C, which firewire does not

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devinator:

doesnt look like any saving-myth-for-american device to me

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iamlindoro_:

devinator: How's that? You can get 100% of your channels, including HD

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devinator:

since cable companies dont allow you to get anything but basic chans out firewire

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iamlindoro_:

devinator: And you get 100% of them via component

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devinator:

ive done it

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devinator:

yes component

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GreyFoxx:

devinator: That's very dependant on where you are

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iamlindoro_:

devinator: please start reading, COMPONENT OUT capture

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GreyFoxx:

unfortunately it's a crapshoot

[23:52:22]

devinator:

greyfoxx: yes

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iamlindoro_:

your component out from your cable box is unencrypted, and all of your channels

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iamlindoro_:

The HD PVR takes the component signal and hardware encodes to h.264

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devinator:

just a crappy method thats all

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GreyFoxx:

The fact is that MOST people will rent the cableco dvr anyway even if frirewire is enabled, so why not just enable it for the few that wille rent STB's just to capture from it ?

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devinator:

those boxes arent cheap :/

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iamlindoro_:

ok, well, enjoy your Tivo

[23:53:49]

devinator:

multistream cablecard is 1.75 a month

[23:54:21]

devinator:

i do, it works well. i use it for hd and digital cable. i use my 5 machine myth setup for everything else

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GreyFoxx:

I'm pretty sure that 2009 thing is for broadcast over the air video, not the over the wire stuff (no matter what your cable co tries to convince you of)

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iamlindoro_:

GreyFoxx: you're correct

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GreyFoxx:

They might be using it as a reason to force you into a stb but it's not what the ruling actually is

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Hoochster:

ya they are just cutting off analog broadcast

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devinator:

damn, power just went out

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Hoochster:

all sat and cable is done via digital now

[23:55:26]

Hoochster:

well unless you only get basic

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Hoochster:

lol

[23:55:34]

Hoochster:

then I guess it might still have some analog

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** GreyFoxx hugs his cableco **

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Hoochster:

sould like to check into the hd pvr for dropping parents sat into myth though

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Hoochster:

think of any other magical things I could try yet GreyFoxx lmao

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iamlindoro_:

Hoochster: Yup, that's exactly what I'm doing... they've got DTV now and have their PVR, and Myth for MythVideo and OTA

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Hoochster:

exactly

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Hoochster:

cool might check into getting one

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iamlindoro_:

Will be using the HD PVR to consolidate

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GreyFoxx:

Hoochster: No, might have to do up a patch to test it

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Hoochster:

would be nice if they had an all in one interface and didn't have to switch

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SerajewelKS:

weird... since putting my 5500 in, windows will not play sound through my sound card

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Hoochster:

GreyFoxx, just odd I am only one having issue

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a1fa:

awwwwwwwww

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a1fa:

sup

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a1fa:

my dell latitude ls is pissing me off

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Hoochster:

woohoo iamlindoro_ lmao it finished the first 300 lol

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iamlindoro_:

nice

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a1fa:

i cant run 1024x768

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a1fa:

because edid is feeding xorg wrong information

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iamlindoro_:

IgnoreEDID True!

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iamlindoro_:

rather, Option "IgnoreEDID" "True"

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iamlindoro_:

That's just from memory, they changed the option around recently, can't recall whether that's the new or old one

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a1fa:

hm

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a1fa:

thats driver specific i think

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iamlindoro_:

yup, that's the nVidia version

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