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Friday, January 25th, 2008, 00:01 UTC
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[00:12:16] fryfrog: I wonder if the new VIA Isaiah CPU will be able to do HD
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[00:58:18] Seq: Is it possible to set up mythtv to use a secondary backend for transcoding and commercial detection?
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[01:05:48] Kazan: hahaha pansy neighbors
[01:05:54] Kazan: came to bitch about my computer's base
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[01:07:10] czth_: ?
[01:07:19] czth_: base?
[01:07:23] J-e-f-f-A-2: bass
[01:07:27] GreyFoxx: it's base ? as in the auio bass?
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[01:07:30] GreyFoxx: audio even
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[01:11:30] Kazan: bass
[01:11:31] Kazan: even
[01:11:32] Kazan: lol
[01:11:35] Kazan: you know what i mean
[01:11:49] solexious: m
[01:11:57] Kazan: was playing UT3 demo
[01:12:05] Kazan: and they came and knocked on my door to whine about the bass
[01:12:08] Kazan: whaaaa
[01:12:10] Kazan: it's 7pm
[01:12:11] Kazan: deal with it
[01:12:35] Kazan: "zomg we're studying" "you leave nasty notes on my roommates car!" [because her roommate is TOTALLY and COMPLETELY incapable of parking in a parking spot without taking up half of the one next to it]
[01:12:42] czth_: oh heh
[01:12:48] czth_: apartments
[01:12:51] Kazan: yup
[01:12:58] czth_: used to live in those
[01:13:09] czth_: had noisy people upstairs
[01:13:15] Kazan: we'ren ot really noisy
[01:13:24] Kazan: occasionally we watch a movie that has some explosions
[01:13:26] czth_: cranked Beethoven's 9th one day when they were noisy
[01:13:26] Kazan: or play a game
[01:13:28] czth_: they got the picture
[01:13:32] Kazan: and i have decent soundsystems
[01:13:38] czth_: aye same
[01:13:41] Kazan: not my fault my decent sound systems cause some vibration
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[01:13:46] Kazan: it's what they're supposed to do!
[01:13:48] czth_: not amazing, but enough to blow the doors off the people upstairs
[01:14:01] Kazan: they want to bitch about my bass but the people next to us partying every day is not a problem
[01:14:11] czth_: well, it shouldn't be disrupting people msot of the time..
[01:14:19] Kazan: aye it's not
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[01:14:33] czth_: pros of a house: can be pretty darn noisy, cons: lawn
[01:14:44] Kazan: i should play something with a lot of explosions
[01:14:47] Kazan: just to be an arse
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[01:15:21] Kazan: afk
[01:15:24] czth_: back when doom 2 was new i had wired up an amp and some borrowed speakers and was playing around hallowe'en with the window open :)
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[01:17:58] Kazan: now they're being petty
[01:18:07] Kazan: they intentionally repositioned their car to be parked half way into our spot
[01:18:32] Kazan: how immature
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[01:18:37] czth_: time for the molotov cocktails
[01:18:40] Kazan: lol
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[01:18:45] Kazan: i can have their arses towed
[01:18:48] czth_: escalate!
[01:18:51] czth_: do it
[01:19:04] Kazan: i'm just going to watch Chronicles of Riddick
[01:19:33] clever: tape a tack to the button on a shotgun shell
[01:19:36] clever: and set it under the tire
[01:19:39] Kazan: lol
[01:19:49] clever: when they move the thing it goes off into the tire!
[01:20:23] Kazan: heh
[01:20:38] clever: if your lucky the shell may not remain
[01:20:49] clever: and they are left with a hole in the tire and a loud bang
[01:20:58] clever: and no idea what happened!
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[01:53:08] husam: how i go about adding new plugin
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[02:23:06] xanderp: Ok, in fedora, I'm trying to set module parameters in /etc/modprobe.d/lirc to set debug=1 and mask=0x0001 for the lirc_atiusb module, but it is not taking hold. is this not the correct location to set module parameters for fedora?
[02:24:24] xanderp: i have "alias char-major-61 lirc_atiusb unique=1 debug=1 mask=0x0001" in that lirc file, but when I rebooted the box, the module just loaded without any of those parameters...
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[02:35:34] iamlindoro_: options go on a second line following the first
[02:35:46] iamlindoro_: ie "options unique=1 debug=1 mask=0x0001"
[02:36:28] iamlindoro_: and the first line would be "alias char-major-61 lirc_atiusb"
[02:36:57] xanderp: hmmm
[02:37:16] xanderp: in the modules.conf file?
[02:37:24] iamlindoro_: yes.
[02:37:52] xanderp: will check it out once the frontend reboots... (i'm trying to get the 2 remotes for my 2 frontends not to conflict...)
[02:38:04] xanderp: that's what the 'mask' bit is all about
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[02:40:39] xanderp: isn't there a 'refresh module info' command like modules_update or something to get them to re-read the conf files?
[02:41:46] xanderp: shutdown -r now (hehe)
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[02:46:41] xanderp: crappola... i can't for the life of me get these module options to stick..
[02:47:10] xanderp: i even tried manually modprobe'ing the device with the options appended
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[02:56:37] xanderp: ok, I manually stop the lirc_dev and lirc_atiusb modules, then reload the lirc_atiusb module with the parameters and it seems to work as it should, but why wouldn't it read it from modprobe.conf?
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[03:01:41] iamlindoro_: Did you get the syntax right? Pastebin that section
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[03:02:21] xanderp: once it reboots i will do so, thanks
[03:03:52] xanderp: http://pastebin.com/m7c56ea5
[03:05:08] iamlindoro_: ah, that's my fault, I think
[03:05:13] iamlindoro_: options needs the modulename, too
[03:05:26] iamlindoro_: options lirc_atiusb unique=1 debug=1 mask=0x0001
[03:05:34] xanderp: will try that, thanks
[03:06:30] xanderp: my poor frontend is going to wear out with all these reboots (want to ensure it works correctly on a clean boot up)
[03:07:38] xanderp: i think an update may have screwed up my LCDproc on this box as well.. but that's just icing on the cake... will worry about that later.
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[03:09:53] xanderp: yeay!!! thanks! it's working
[03:10:48] iamlindoro_: np
[03:11:37] J-e-f-f-A: iamlindoro_: hey... How ya doing tonight? Guess how much I paid for 4–1/2 hours parking today in Boston? $26!
[03:11:57] iamlindoro_: Gah, I remember it well...
[03:12:17] J-e-f-f-A: iamlindoro_: At least I can expense it... it was a trip to our datacenter... ;-)
[03:12:20] iamlindoro_: The only thing worse than paying for parking was going to Gov't Center and trying to get a parking pass
[03:12:43] iamlindoro_: FWIW they make free parking in the city twice as painful as paying for it
[03:15:45] CCFL_Man2: sprouted coconut centers ftw
[03:19:07] xanderp: our ISP and hosting center had a major malfuntion today and took us offline for about 5 minutes...
[03:19:45] CCFL_Man2: our mpls circuit is very reliable
[03:20:05] xanderp: ours is too (usually)
[03:20:45] xanderp: they are an upper tier provider, everything is redundant out the wazoo, but this was apparently a 'perfect storm' outage
[03:21:47] iamlindoro_: A major charity site in New York I was trying to get to was out for much of the day, too... wonder if it's related
[03:22:15] iamlindoro_: at least, I believe it's hosted somewhere in New York
[03:23:00] xanderp: i called the noc and heard the startrek battlestation siren playing in the background and lots of people talking very fast... it's nice to see someone else have problems for a change!
[03:24:27] xanderp: they dropped several customers... must have been a big piece of gear to kill that much.
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[03:26:30] xanderp: our's is the same noc that hosts monster.com
[03:26:30] iamlindoro: Heh... some guy on the user's list saying optimize_mythdb.pl is broken
[03:26:41] iamlindoro: his proof is "sh optimize_mythdb.pl"
[03:26:45] iamlindoro: oops.
[03:26:46] iamlindoro: hehe
[03:27:21] mikeones: hah
[03:27:48] iamlindoro: Yeah, that happens every time I try to run a perl script with BASH too... MythTV is broken!
[03:28:43] xanderp: he should try sh ./optimize_mythdb.pl that would DEFINITELY work better!!!
[03:28:53] xanderp: hehe
[03:28:58] iamlindoro: That's what I mentioned.
[03:29:07] CCFL_Man2: iamlindoro: i contacted motorola about more indepth documentation and the default login for telnet, the tech will only help me if i talk to him on the phone
[03:29:12] xanderp: don't forget the leading ./ it will mess you up every time ;)
[03:29:19] CCFL_Man2: for my satellite receiver
[03:29:32] iamlindoro: CCFL_Man2: so call the good man
[03:29:45] xanderp: ahh the beauty of free long distance... :)
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[03:30:11] CCFL_Man2: iamlindoro: i just don't understand why he just can't answer my question over e-mail
[03:30:37] xanderp: remember how much it used to suck calling companies and sitting on long distance listening to hold music for an hour? (at least now we don't have to pay ma bell for the priv)
[03:30:40] CCFL_Man2: i bet he wants to ask me what service provider i'm with
[03:31:09] iamlindoro: Entirely possible... we used to pay a mint for Moto tech support
[03:31:45] CCFL_Man2: iamlindoro: think they want to charge me?
[03:31:49] xanderp: off to the basement to check on the other frontend... back in a few...
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[03:32:16] iamlindoro: They might, I've never heard a cable co that would support for free
[03:32:44] iamlindoro: SA/Moto... heck, even Comcast charged us to support us supporting THEM
[03:32:53] CCFL_Man2: iamlindoro: all i want is more indepth documentation so i don't need support
[03:33:10] CCFL_Man2: fucking cumschat
[03:34:39] CCFL_Man2: and i want firmware updates too :P
[03:34:52] CCFL_Man2: i know i'm asking a lot
[03:34:58] iamlindoro: Well *that* they probably will charge you for
[03:35:30] CCFL_Man2: though i might be able to get it free if i point my dish to hbo's downlink
[03:36:02] CCFL_Man2: like with asfarts downlink and sci atl firmware
[03:36:35] CCFL_Man2: afrts i mean :P
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[03:41:16] CCFL_Man2: shame how some companies charge so much for support
[03:41:35] CCFL_Man2: even a simple question is like pulling teeth
[03:42:14] CCFL_Man2: support for consumer stuff... i don't even bother
[03:42:50] CCFL_Man2: most of the time i don't need it, and if i do, the internets gives me better answers
[03:44:04] CCFL_Man2: iamlindoro: i just want to monitor and configure the ird over a LAN, that is all
[03:44:35] CCFL_Man2: older irds have a serial port i can just connect to my terminal server
[03:46:04] Technobabble: which winTV version is the best for a new user, the 150?
[03:48:13] iamlindoro: Technobabble: Yes.
[03:48:46] Technobabble: which one is the card with the dual inputs?
[03:48:52] iamlindoro: pvr-500
[03:49:08] Technobabble: do you need 2 boxes for that one?
[03:49:11] iamlindoro: if you are brand new and want an easy-to-setup remote as well, make sure to get the MCE edition of either
[03:49:32] iamlindoro: Technobabble: Assuming you want all your channels available on both of them, yes.
[03:49:55] Technobabble: you actually bring up a good point, this thing is going to run inside a closet.
[03:50:10] Technobabble: does myth have a way to change the TV channel from the frontside?
[03:50:15] Technobabble: frontend, rather
[03:50:43] iamlindoro: sure, it just signals the backend to change channels, and if you're controlling boxes, you use ir blasters
[03:52:01] Technobabble: so the card has an IR blaster that points at the cable box?
[03:52:15] Technobabble: or does it communcate in some other way, or are there multiple options?
[03:52:50] iamlindoro: With analog, basically only one option... IR Blasters. You get one with the MCE edition.
[03:54:28] Technobabble: i have a hauppauge card here that looks like myth doesn't read. it says NTSC 44981 LF rev E1B2
[03:54:45] Technobabble: isn't NTSC the standard for the UK? did i find a UK card?
[03:54:52] iamlindoro: Nope, NTSC is US
[03:54:56] Technobabble: (found it in a box of old computer cards)
[03:55:02] iamlindoro: PAL is Europe, not to mention most of the rest of the world
[03:55:15] Technobabble: so is this one compatable?
[03:55:43] Technobabble: i've been reading about the 150/250/350/500's
[03:55:51] iamlindoro: You need to tell me which card it is first... haven't given me enough to go by
[03:55:52] Technobabble: but this one doesn't appear to be any of that
[03:56:00] iamlindoro: Probably a much older framegrabber card
[03:56:02] Technobabble: hold on, let me go pull it out of the system
[03:56:14] iamlindoro: and myth doesn't support cards directly, it relies on V4L for card support
[03:56:32] iamlindoro: so figure out what card you have and look it up at linuxtv.org in the V4L wiki
[03:57:54] Technobabble: says 2006 on it...
[03:58:33] Technobabble: k, let me see
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[03:58:56] iamlindoro: sounds like a wintv go to me... cheapy framegrabber
[03:59:03] iamlindoro: rather, WinTV-Go
[03:59:19] Technobabble: yeah, i think you're right
[03:59:42] iamlindoro: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV_Go