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| [00:02:31] | clever: | Anduin: ive started adding some VERBOSE's to the keyPressEvent stuff to track down whats happening within myth |
| [00:03:23] | clever: | and its missing a -v input flag so i made one |
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| [00:25:52] | hexxeh: | hm, looks like dvbci.cpp already contains code relating to accessing a cam's menu – but i don't know how much of that file has actually been cleaned up since it's been half-inched from dvr |
| [00:25:55] | hexxeh: | vdr |
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| [01:11:40] | Seeker`: | is it possible to run the svn frontend for a .20 backend? |
| [01:11:51] | iamlindoro_: | nope |
| [01:12:03] | Dibblah: | Yes. |
| [01:12:09] | Seeker`: | ... |
| [01:12:14] | Dibblah: | It's also possible to bash your head with bricks. |
| [01:12:24] | Dibblah: | Both are about as productive ;) |
| [01:12:56] | Dibblah: | hexxeh: The CAm |
| [01:13:37] | Dibblah: | CAM stuff is functional. However, all it does on a menu is autoselect the first entry in each 'non-optional' choice that comes up. |
| [01:14:08] | Dibblah: | Specifically, if there's a OK button type thing as the first entry, it picks it, to allow things to continue rather than halt. |
| [01:14:16] | Dibblah: | There's no UI for CAM menus. |
| [01:14:33] | hexxeh: | right |
| [01:14:47] | hexxeh: | do you think that's worth investigating? |
| [01:15:02] | Dibblah: | If you have the time / inclination, sure! |
| [01:15:22] | Dibblah: | However, there are (as always) a couple of things to remember while thinking about it. |
| [01:15:48] | hexxeh: | go on |
| [01:16:07] | Dibblah: | Firstly, the primary reason for Myth is as a PVR. Therefore recordings are more 'important' than live TV. |
| [01:16:38] | Dibblah: | Secondly, multiple tuner / multiple backend / multiple frontends. That's where things get sticky. |
| [01:17:25] | hexxeh: | my understanding is that some viewing card/cam pairings require some interaction with the cam's menu system, at least for debugging purposes |
| [01:17:34] | Dibblah: | If daddy wants porn upstairs and authorises it on his card / CAM / CI, then it'll pretty much remain enabled. Even for little Jimmy downstairs. |
| [01:17:41] | Dibblah: | Indeed. |
| [01:17:46] | Dibblah: | DragonCAM, etc. |
| [01:17:54] | hexxeh: | it'd certainly be nice to get some status from the cam, since most of my encrypted recordings come out blank |
| [01:18:09] | hexxeh: | and i know there's some rudimentary debugging info on the cam such as expiry date for viewing card |
| [01:18:30] | hexxeh: | and i'm not talking dodgy cams here. proper licensed jobbies |
| [01:19:16] | Dibblah: | Okay. |
| [01:19:36] | Seeker`: | hmm |
| [01:19:43] | Dibblah: | The only real issue with true CAMs tends to be that they expect to be always in the stream. |
| [01:20:05] | hexxeh: | i think in the end my concern is that i can access my cam menu when it's plugged straight into the tv, but not when it's plugged into my myth machine – and i can't guarantee that i'll never need to look at the menu |
| [01:20:12] | Dibblah: | So if you don't record 'often enough' it'll require a full "re-sync" of it's encryption. |
| [01:20:21] | Seeker`: | would it be best to have a seperate myth box if i wanted to try myth dev |
| [01:20:42] | Dibblah: | hexxeh: It is a valid point. But it's not a point-of-concern for any of the active devs :( |
| [01:20:50] | iamlindoro_: | You could always wait like five and a half minutes and get .21 |
| [01:21:15] | Dibblah: | Seeker`: As long as you back up your database first, you're limited to the amount you can lose. |
| [01:21:33] | Dibblah: | ... Unless the MPAA come knocking. |
| [01:21:39] | Dibblah: | Then you're screwed. |
| [01:21:52] | Seeker`: | Dibblah: I dont want to end up with a b0rked system – I'm currently running the mythbuntu version |
| [01:21:57] | Seeker`: | and its my only TV |
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| [01:22:19] | Dibblah: | What do you want that is in SVN? |
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| [01:22:22] | hexxeh: | Dibblah, nobody is working on improvements to general pay tv related things? |
| [01:22:30] | Dibblah: | hexxeh: No. |
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| [01:23:16] | Seeker`: | Dibblah: Nothing in particular, but I want to do some sort of development work in my spare time |
| [01:23:23] | Dibblah: | Daniel / Janne are the most active in the DVB area, but they haven't expressed any interest in it. |
| [01:23:49] | Daviey: | Seeker`: before i go – if you upgrade to svn trunk, a database upgrade will happen – that can't easily be undone |
| [01:23:52] | Daviey: | so backup first |
| [01:23:55] | hexxeh: | Dibblah, hm. presumably, given the way you've been speaking, you have some experience with them? is there anything else you'd highlight as a "problem" to be fixed? |
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| [01:24:28] | Dibblah: | The CAM code as it is works. |
| [01:24:46] | Dibblah: | There's some complaints recently that it _may_ have issues with multirec. |
| [01:25:09] | chasep: | My audio is high and squeky.I have determined its the bit rate. When I setup the capture card, I told it to do 32000, but it doesnt seem to have any effect (if I output it via arecord at 32000 it sounds fine) |
| [01:25:56] | Dibblah: | Specifically, some CAMs can only decrypt a few PIDs (<5) which can cause recordings to fail. |
| [01:26:11] | Dibblah: | But there's no way to find that out currently. |
| [01:26:35] | Dibblah: | Anyway. It's 1:30 in the morning. Time for bed :) |
| [01:26:50] | hexxeh: | Dibblah, indeed. can we discuss this tomorrow at a more civil hour? |
| [01:27:04] | hexxeh: | well. today. same difference |
| [01:27:32] | Dibblah: | Possibly. Easiest way to get the real players involved is to send a mail to the -dev list. |
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| [01:27:50] | Dibblah: | And make it obvious that it's not an end-user support question ;) |
| [01:28:02] | ** Dibblah is not a dev, BTW... ** | |
| [01:28:12] | mumrah: | quick, what's the best pci capture card for use with ubuntu and mythtv? |
| [01:28:17] | hexxeh: | well, i don't want it to look like i'm fishing for developer man-hours |
| [01:28:23] | hexxeh: | nova-t |
| [01:28:37] | hexxeh: | cheap, easy |
| [01:29:02] | Dibblah: | Seriously – All of the devs are maxxed out on things that interest them. If you want something done,... |
| [01:29:33] | hexxeh: | well, indeed. i'll have a look through the code tomorrow |
| [01:29:33] | Dibblah: | You have the choice of waiting until someone gets interested, or learning a lot and doing it yourself... |
| [01:30:05] | mumrah: | nova-t google tells me around 200 |
| [01:30:07] | mumrah: | sound about right? |
| [01:30:43] | hexxeh: | about £30. just under |
| [01:31:19] | mumrah: | is that pounds? |
| [01:31:32] | Seeker`: | hexxeh: Where is that? Is that the dual tuner one? |
| [01:31:56] | mumrah: | oh, that's a european tv one |
| [01:32:04] | mumrah: | will it work for the states? |
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| [01:35:52] | Mythster: | hello |
| [01:36:10] | Mythster: | anyone in here wanna help me out.. trying to install myth on slackware |
| [01:36:13] | hexxeh: | mumrah, no, it won't, but you never specified what capabilities you wanted in a tuner |
| [01:36:19] | Mythster: | cant find any decent tutorials for slack 12 |
| [01:36:26] | hexxeh: | Seeker`, standard single-tuner one. http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=9833 |
| [01:36:54] | hexxeh: | Mythster, i think GreyFoxx uses slackware or something equally esoteric. but it's silly o'clock |
| [01:36:59] | hexxeh: | and on that note, i'm off |
| [01:37:08] | Mythster: | lol |
| [01:37:09] | Mythster: | ok |
| [01:37:13] | Mythster: | thanks tho |
| [01:38:41] | Seeker`: | hexxeh: ah, ok. I've seen the dual ones for £50 at cheapest, so £30 would have been a bargin :) |
| [01:39:00] | Seeker`: | how many people here are from the uk? |
| [01:42:22] | mumrah: | does mythtv support a high-def signal/ |
| [01:42:23] | mumrah: | ? |
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| [01:45:07] | Mythster: | hey |
| [01:45:14] | Mythster: | yeah myth supports high |
| [01:45:27] | Mythster: | are you asking about digital cable or HD channels |
| [01:45:47] | Mythster: | HD channels being both broadcast (over – air) & cable |
| [01:46:44] | Mythster: | see standard cable channels can be broad casted via Analog or Digital.. most places actually broadcast a digital signal that can be received by most TVs that are considered "analog" |
| [01:47:03] | Mythster: | most tvs will receive analog & digital.. just not HD |
| [01:47:09] | Mythster: | HD is a beast all its own |
| [01:47:49] | Mythster: | i pick up about 30 HD channels over my cable for free.. too bad they all suck lol |
| [01:48:16] | Mythster: | atleast thats how i was told it works |
| [01:48:26] | Mythster: | but at any rate myth will indeed support HD tuning |
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| [01:51:50] | iamlindoro_: | Mmmm, the uninformed answering the questions of people who have already left, and then leaving themselves. This is why I come to #mythtv-users. |
| [01:59:06] | clever: | lol |
| [01:59:17] | clever: | ive given out help for cards ive never even used:P |
| [01:59:34] | clever: | mostly i just absorb info i see from others and then feed it back out |
| [02:01:25] | sn9: | in between the absorption and the regurgitation, a sanity check is in order |
| [02:04:07] | Seeker`: | so you dont want people to give out random advice? :P |
| [02:04:47] | justinh: | mumrah still coming back? we need to talk to Lion-O again |
| [02:04:56] | Seeker`: | Lion-O? |
| [02:05:08] | justinh: | he's too busy with Cheetarah these days AFAIK |
| [02:05:34] | justinh: | Seeker`: ahhh you're either too old or too young to have known Thundercats! |
| [02:05:43] | Seeker`: | too young I think |
| [02:05:45] | Seeker`: | just about |
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| [02:05:59] | Seeker`: | I have seen it, but I wasn't old enough to remember it well |
| [02:06:06] | sn9: | 1984–6, iirc |
| [02:06:07] | chasep: | My audio being captured is squeaky. I am setting the "audio sampling rate limit" to 32000 but its having no effect. If I use arecord and set it to 32000, sound is fine...........snarf snarf? |
| [02:06:10] | justinh: | mumrah the every living, baddie who came back every week to do the job he could realistically have finished last week & stopped all the nonsense |
| [02:06:17] | justinh: | s/every/ever |
| [02:06:33] | Seeker`: | sn9: 86 – 86 |
| [02:06:57] | Seeker`: | sn9: I was 6 months old when the first series ended |
| [02:07:03] | ** justinh sprays holy water on all the framegrabber cards ** | |
| [02:07:04] | sn9: | Seeker`: not possible; silverhawks was later, and it premiered in '85 |
| [02:07:42] | justinh: | chasep: maybe your sound card is too lame to play back & record at the same time |
| [02:07:54] | Seeker`: | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088631/ |
| [02:07:57] | justinh: | any modern sound device shouldn't have a problem though |
| [02:08:04] | Seeker`: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thundercats |
| [02:08:19] | chasep: | justinh: no, capture card is capturing audio, sound card is playing it........... plus, recordings are just as bad |
| [02:08:20] | Seeker`: | I meant 85 – 86 |
| [02:08:33] | tjcarter: | Neekid Cheetarah from the pilot or dressed Cheetara from later? |
| [02:10:07] | justinh: | chasep: tried editing the recording profiles for livetv & default to set them to 32 khz? or even tried setting them to 44.1 ? |
| [02:10:08] | tjcarter: | I'm actually surprised BS&P got away with that. |
| [02:10:11] | Seeker`: | hmm, with cards like the PVR150, does the composite-in get buffered to the hard drive in the same way live TV does (i.e. a few seconds delay) |
| [02:10:34] | justinh: | Seeker`: in mythtv everything gets bufferred in livetv |
| [02:10:43] | justinh: | and no you can't disable that |
| [02:10:52] | Seeker`: | justinh: I was wondering about playing games consoles through it |
| [02:11:28] | justinh: | Seeker`: nah. you'd need a framegrabber (yay) which you wouldn't bother setting up in mythtv. make a menu item to launch tvtime or whatever :) |
| [02:11:46] | Seeker`: | is it hard to make menu items? |
| [02:11:52] | justinh: | nope |
| [02:12:40] | justinh: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Menu_the . . . opment_guide – see the button section there |
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| [02:13:52] | justinh: | oh god no not another flipping bleeding heart 'all user comments are valued' post |
| [02:14:07] | iamlindoro_: | Where's that? |
| [02:14:27] | justinh: | thankyou for emailing to say that "muh muh muh, MCE is better & if mythtv doesn't catch up again I'll stop using mythtv". it really helped |
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| [02:15:04] | tjcarter: | MCE better? |
| [02:15:05] | justinh: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/310736 |
| [02:15:06] | tjcarter: | AT WHAT?! |
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| [02:15:47] | justinh: | makes me so mad to see posts like that. I'm not replying to it. can't think of anything positive to add |
| [02:17:27] | justinh: | infact I've just thought of a reason to go to an upcoming linux expo. if there's any kind of debate on 'is that kind of contribution really useful' I want to be there to learn the reasoning behind all the group huggers' methodology |
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| [02:18:03] | Toxicity999: | Yay for random inexplicable lockups... Makes a fresh install fun, lol. |
| [02:18:29] | justinh: | Toxicity999: installed ubuntu once, put mythtv on there frompackages. segfaulted all over the place |
| [02:18:37] | justinh: | wouldn't even get into the menus |
| [02:18:48] | justinh: | took packages off & built from source. tada! |
| [02:19:06] | Toxicity999: | I always build trunk myself |
| [02:19:25] | Toxicity999: | Getting the dreaded oft whispered never conclusively discussed crash and hardlock |
| [02:19:31] | justinh: | only time I ever had problems with mythtv packages though.. but they were bad that time |
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| [02:22:20] | ** justinh wonders if there are ever any linuxfest seminars about "how to bite your lip" or "how to ignore assholes better" or "why they don't have a right to complain but you can't ever tell them that" ** | |
| [02:22:49] | Toxicity999: | lol |
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| [02:23:05] | mkrufky: | we also have the right to ignore the guy |
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| [02:23:29] | Toxicity999: | Is that directed at me? I can only hope to assume someone far worse was here just before me =P |
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| [02:23:36] | mkrufky: | lol, no |
| [02:23:38] | mkrufky: | sorry |
| [02:23:48] | justinh: | mkrufky: yeah but I'm thinking for people like me, whose ability to ignore the guy is less than could be desired |
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| [02:24:09] | Toxicity999: | Jeez... See I almost remember this being a problem before, but I can't remember what I did. |
| [02:24:12] | justinh: | does it ever just come to you or is it something you're born with? |
| [02:24:14] | Toxicity999: | I think it was an opengl issue... |
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| [02:24:24] | ** Toxicity999 continues to think outloud. ** | |
| [02:25:01] | justinh: | Toxicity999: sometimes turning off the bling toys can help |
| [02:25:23] | Toxicity999: | Yea, I'm just curious as to what the issue is, I remember this happening on the same hardware, sans the crappy graphics card before as well. |
| [02:29:42] | Toxicity999: | Seems alright using no OGL for playback |
| [02:30:07] | justinh: | not even gonna try & guess the VGA card manufacturer |
| [02:30:13] | Toxicity999: | Lol |
| [02:30:20] | Toxicity999: | Ding ding, nvidia |
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| [02:34:32] | leprasmurf: | Hello all, I have an issue, I really hope someone has an idea of what I can do. My backend froze and had to be hard booted, when it came back up the tv out (ati) was all gray. I checked the cables and they were fine, if I vnc into the box, color displays on my monitor no problem. |
| [02:35:45] | ** justinh considers asking if a computer shop is open nearby – and if so, would suggest buying a nvidia card ** | |
| [02:36:28] | justinh: | leprasmurf: when you say 'all gray' do you mean there's a picture & it's just black & white? |
| [02:36:46] | leprasmurf: | and if money we so readily available, I wouldn't be stuck with an antiquated computer |
| [02:36:46] | Mythster: | reinstall the ati driver |
| [02:36:57] | leprasmurf: | justinh: yes |
| [02:37:12] | Mythster: | just reinstall the ati driver first |
| [02:37:20] | Mythster: | if that doesnt work then buy nvidia card |
| [02:37:38] | Mythster: | or install mythbuntu lol |
| [02:37:39] | justinh: | check xorg.conf & make sure it looks fine. especially give the tvout options a going over |
| [02:38:01] | Mythster: | when you have a working xorg you should always copy it |
| [02:38:01] | leprasmurf: | Mythster: Here's the thing on that, I started to look into installing the ati proprietary drivers, and the howto mentioned I should check the kernel, and that ended up screwing up. that's a different issue though |
| [02:38:10] | Mythster: | call it xorg.conf.good or somethig |
| [02:38:11] | leprasmurf: | what is it with linux people always talking about buy new stuff? |
| [02:38:23] | leprasmurf: | yeah, I have a copy of an old xorg that works |
| [02:38:32] | justinh: | leprasmurf: ati sucks in linux generally |
| [02:38:38] | Mythster: | its true |
| [02:38:53] | Mythster: | my laptop has an ati 9700 :'( |
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| [02:39:11] | justinh: | nvidia have their moments, I'm not denying that for a second. but, even the closed source (blech!) drivers do really work most of the time |
| [02:39:36] | leprasmurf: | justinh: I know this, but it's what I have |
| [02:39:43] | justinh: | so that's why I'm always on the 'rip out the ati' tip :) |
| [02:39:59] | justinh: | I'm not a shareholder or anything, honest |
| [02:40:02] | leprasmurf: | if I had the money to go buy an nice nvidia card, my wife would be able to play wow on her ubuntu install |
| [02:40:24] | justinh: | leprasmurf: first step would be to go check that xorg.conf then |
| [02:40:28] | Mythster: | anyone on here use slackware? |
| [02:40:42] | Mythster: | i want to install myth on mine and need some advice |
| [02:40:43] | leprasmurf: | I hate messing with the xorg.conf |
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| [02:40:55] | Mythster: | should i do a tgz install or should i slackbuild from source |
| [02:40:56] | leprasmurf: | not much choice then I suppose, ty |
| [02:40:57] | justinh: | leprasmurf: but if you changed the kernel... maybe you do need to reinstall the ati driver |
| [02:41:07] | leprasmurf: | i didn't do anything to the kernel |
| [02:41:12] | Mythster: | what OS are you runnin |
| [02:41:16] | justinh: | leprasmurf: and you'll still need to check xorg.conf |
| [02:41:18] | leprasmurf: | and it's knoppmyth, which doesn't have an auto-update as far as I know |
| [02:41:40] | Mythster: | reinstall ati driver, then if possible run the ati x config thing |
| [02:41:46] | leprasmurf: | I've just copied my working backup and restarted, seeing how that goes |
| [02:41:56] | leprasmurf: | which ati driver would you recommend? |
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| [02:42:20] | Mythster: | i always just use the standard for my card from ati |
| [02:42:22] | Mythster: | works fine |
| [02:42:31] | leprasmurf: | the closed source? |
| [02:42:36] | Mythster: | although come ot think of it my tv out is alway black and white |
| [02:42:42] | leprasmurf: | damn...my workin copy is also b&w |
| [02:43:06] | Mythster: | i only get black and white from my ati tv out |
| [02:43:13] | Mythster: | just get a nvidia card man |
| [02:43:23] | leprasmurf: | I've been using ati tv out for the last two months, and it's been working |
| [02:43:35] | leprasmurf: | what part of "I don't have the money" is getting lost here? |
| [02:43:42] | Mythster: | i got a nvidia 6200A.. dvi,vga,& svid , 256mb ddr2 for $50 on ebay |
| [02:44:02] | justinh: | leprasmurf: there's a #knoppmyth channel you know. somebody there might be better acquainted with your problem |
| [02:44:18] | Mythster: | yeah we all use nvidia.. |
| [02:44:19] | Mythster: | sorry man |
| [02:44:43] | Mythster: | i havent bothered to try to get my ati working right.. heard they're a bitch so i was just glad to have the dvi feed to my laptop screen |
| [02:44:44] | leprasmurf: | look, when you have 3 kids, a mortgage on a house that you can't sell, rent on a house in a new location, utility bills for 2 locations, car payment, insurance, and all that go with it, $50 is hard to come by |
| [02:45:07] | Mythster: | alright sorry man.. gs |
| [02:45:19] | leprasmurf: | that's all I'm saying |
| [02:45:35] | Mythster: | i'm just sayin you can get them for cheap on ebay once in a while |
| [02:45:40] | leprasmurf: | so people keep saying "buy a new card" well, it's not exactly that easy |
| [02:45:47] | Mythster: | i've seen some cards w/ svid go for $10 |
| [02:46:03] | Toxicity999: | Meh, take that back... locked up again. |
| [02:46:07] | justinh: | in an ideal world I'd give up my day job & develop mythtv full time to make it exactly what I want it to be :) |
| [02:46:17] | Toxicity999: | Granted it took way longer. |
| [02:46:22] | Mythster: | lol |
| [02:46:30] | Mythster: | well man .. i dunno what to tell you |
| [02:46:38] | Mythster: | are you only using the box for myth? |
| [02:46:40] | leprasmurf: | lol |
| [02:46:46] | leprasmurf: | yes |
| [02:46:56] | Mythster: | if so you may wanna try a quick installation. do u have an open partition? |
| [02:46:57] | justinh: | in that ideal world I'd put contracts out on mythtv's critics too but that's just way out of my league :P |
| [02:47:01] | Mythster: | try mythbuntu |
| [02:47:05] | Mythster: | doesnt take long to install |
| [02:47:09] | Mythster: | and config is cake |
| [02:47:22] | Mythster: | only it doesnt work for my card.. |
| [02:47:29] | Mythster: | works ok then gives me pink screen of death |
| [02:47:42] | justinh: | Mythster: reinstalling shouldn't be an early choice for a system that was working til it was rebooted |
| [02:47:45] | Mythster: | every once in a while it will just go pink when tuning |
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| [02:48:01] | leprasmurf: | knoppmyth worked with my card |
| [02:48:02] | Mythster: | he did a hot shutdown |
| [02:48:05] | justinh: | that's more the Windows way |
| [02:48:06] | leprasmurf: | it's just stopped working all of a sudden |
| [02:48:08] | Mythster: | more than likely its fucked |
| [02:48:22] | Mythster: | same was my did |
| [02:48:27] | Mythster: | and only cure was to reinstall |
| [02:48:39] | CCFL_Man2: | anyone tune qam channels here with mythtv? |
| [02:48:40] | justinh: | Mythster: I've had to hard reset linux boxes plenty times, no harm done at all AFAIK |
| [02:48:43] | Mythster: | i look at it as an investment of my time.. takes me 15min to install mythbuntu |
| [02:48:57] | Mythster: | how long would you have to problem solve till you found the prob then fixed it? |
| [02:49:15] | Mythster: | same here but what about while running myth w/ tv tuner engaged? |
| [02:49:19] | Mythster: | i've always had probs w/ that |
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| [02:49:27] | justinh: | leprasmurf: did you change _anything_ before the system locked up? |
| [02:49:29] | Mythster: | now if its just the pc desktop no probs |
| [02:49:44] | Mythster: | he said earlier it just did it out of the blue |
| [02:49:53] | justinh: | not quite |
| [02:49:56] | leprasmurf: | justinh: as far as I can recall, nothing |
| [02:50:10] | Mythster: | what OS were you running? |
| [02:50:11] | leprasmurf: | and as far as I know, there are no settings inside mythtv that would mod the xorg and/or ati config |
| [02:50:14] | leprasmurf: | knoppmyth |
| [02:50:25] | Mythster: | i had the same prob w/ knoppmyth |
| [02:50:29] | Mythster: | same as mythbuntu |
| [02:50:33] | Toxicity999: | Oh whoops, I know why it froze, lirc freeze, the adapter fell out. |
| [02:50:35] | Mythster: | gave me the pink screen of death |
| [02:50:40] | Toxicity999: | this last time anyway |
| [02:50:46] | Mythster: | did you have a front end running when it froze? |
| [02:51:20] | justinh: | leprasmurf: you said something about screwing something up looking into the kernel but that "was a different issue"... |
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| [02:53:30] | CCFL_Man2: | qam reception is important to me |
| [02:53:53] | justinh: | but fwiw if you don't have anything in the way of recordings to lose I'd be tempted just to reinstall. can be quicker than trying to muck around for hours & hours. just be careful not to make the same mistake again :) |
| [02:54:06] | leprasmurf: | yeah, when I started looking into installing the ati closed source drivers, the first step is to check the kernel to make sure certain things were installed. I went into my source dir, /usr/src/linux and make menuconfig, but it was looking for a driver that didn't exist anymore (v4l-dvb) but I didn't actually change anything |
| [02:54:25] | justinh: | leprasmurf: sounds sane |
| [02:54:43] | justinh: | leprasmurf: but why were you even looking into using other drivers? ;) |
| [02:55:25] | justinh: | remember the old mantra.. if it ain't broke... :) |
| [02:55:52] | CCFL_Man2: | the linuxtv wiki says air2pc 2nd revision supports 64/256 qam |
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| [02:56:50] | justinh: | CCFL_Man2: I hear they work but only where your cable co provides unencrippled channels. that could be lots, few or none at all.. |
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| [02:57:27] | leprasmurf: | that's the problem, it was broke |
| [02:57:30] | leprasmurf: | that's why I was looking |
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| [02:57:40] | CCFL_Man2: | justinh: i'm going to get qam modulators and provide my own qam channels from satellite receivers usede for c band |
| [02:57:52] | justinh: | leprasmurf: was it ever in colour on the tv out? |
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| [02:58:14] | justinh: | CCFL_Man2: qam modulators? jees man. $$$$$ |
| [02:58:29] | leprasmurf: | order of events: pc froze, hard reboot, all gray screen, tried to reinstall driver, found issue when trying to go into menuconfig |
| [02:59:04] | leprasmurf: | before the pc froze and the hard reboot, everything was peachy |
| [02:59:13] | justinh: | well as fun as all this is I really need to sleep. good luck leprasmurf |
| [02:59:18] | leprasmurf: | ty |
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| [03:02:03] | CCFL_Man2: | justinh: i know, it will cost me, but i'm gonna buy on ebay and from people for used equipment |
| [03:03:05] | CCFL_Man2: | but, without cable (which i hate), how do i get digital trans of my favorite channels, such as the discovery channel |
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| [03:03:53] | CCFL_Man2: | trans = streams |
| [03:04:59] | GreyFoxx: | for some reason I was under the impression that cband users could get pci dvb cards and cams |
| [03:06:19] | CCFL_Man2: | GreyFoxx: not reallt |
| [03:06:31] | Tanthrix: | CCFL_Man2: How exactly are you going to get the digital unencrypted streams from your satellite ? |
| [03:07:05] | Tanthrix: | Decrypted, I mean. |
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| [03:08:33] | CCFL_Man2: | GreyFoxx: not really in the US, the two digital systems used are dcII and dvb with powervu cam |
| [03:09:19] | GreyFoxx: | CCFL_Man2: Yes I know, but I was under the impression from something I read years back that you could get a CAM for use with CBAND (bought from cband of course) |
| [03:09:47] | CCFL_Man2: | Tanthrix: commercial satellite receivers have a transport stream output called dvb-asi, it's used for transfering transport streams between professional equipment, uses a 75 ohm coax cable and bnc connectors |
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| [03:10:31] | Tanthrix: | I see. |
| [03:10:48] | CCFL_Man2: | GreyFoxx: with some channels i think you can, but not with most of them |
| [03:11:42] | GreyFoxx: | It's amazing how much FTAstuff is up there if you have acouple dishes and some rotors |
| [03:12:36] | CCFL_Man2: | Tanthrix: qam modulators have lvds or dvb-asi transport stream input, they have dvb-asi pci cards but they cost a couple thousand dollars and have no api support with mythtv |
| [03:12:49] | Mythster: | GreyFoxx, man i need your help |
| [03:12:51] | Mythster: | plz |
| [03:13:00] | CCFL_Man2: | so the best way for me to accomplish this is qam modulators |
| [03:13:12] | Mythster: | i wanna install myth on slack |
| [03:13:29] | Mythster: | should i slackbuild it or usethe tgz i found |
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| [03:13:46] | GreyFoxx: | I just compile it and make install :) |
| [03:13:52] | Mythster: | lol |
| [03:14:02] | Mythster: | could you possibly help me out w/ that? |
| [03:14:10] | Mythster: | plz!!! |
| [03:14:19] | htpcdvbs: | anyway to downgrade mythtv with older version |
| [03:14:20] | GreyFoxx: | I'm in the middle of something actually :) |
| [03:14:21] | Mythster: | i cant find any good tutorials |
| [03:14:21] | htpcdvbs: | ? |
| [03:14:27] | Mythster: | well after that? |
| [03:14:31] | GreyFoxx: | htpcdvbs: no |
| [03:14:35] | Mythster: | i call the greyfox next? |
| [03:14:36] | GreyFoxx: | Myth, get the source |
| [03:14:39] | GreyFoxx: | ./configure |
| [03:14:40] | GreyFoxx: | make |
| [03:14:42] | GreyFoxx: | make install |
| [03:14:50] | Mythster: | yeah i know that |
| [03:14:51] | GreyFoxx: | rinse and reprot for the themes and plugins |
| [03:14:58] | Mythster: | but what about the mysql thing? |
| [03:15:11] | GreyFoxx: | which part? |
| [03:15:12] | Tanthrix: | CCFL_Man2: I think you should just wait until Hauppuage's new component HD card comes out. I have a hunch that it's going to be damned nice. (IE, nice enough that you won't be able to tell the difference between an original SD digital stream, and an upscaled recorded version) |
| [03:15:14] | Mythster: | i dunno how to configure mysql |
| [03:15:25] | Mythster: | i dunno anything about the mysql part really |
| [03:15:27] | GreyFoxx: | MythLogBot: You need google, not me :) |
| [03:15:41] | Mythster: | i tried |
| [03:15:46] | Mythster: | didnt find anything for slack 12 |
| [03:15:55] | GreyFoxx: | mysql is mysql |
| [03:15:57] | CCFL_Man2: | Tanthrix: thats analog though |
| [03:16:01] | GreyFoxx: | you don't need a distro specific guide |
| [03:16:49] | Mythster: | ok |
| [03:17:13] | GreyFoxx: | but in slackware, as root (assuming you have installed the distro mysql package |
| [03:17:19] | Tanthrix: | CCFL_Man2: I know, but what I'm saying is that I have a hunch that the resulting AVC encoded file from an upscaled component output from a cable or satellite reciever will be indistinguisable from the original transport stream |
| [03:17:33] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [03:17:45] | Mythster: | anyone try to use DSL w/ mythtv? |
| [03:18:04] | GreyFoxx: | as root run mysql_install_db, then chown -R mysql.mysql /var/lib/mysql |
| [03:18:11] | GreyFoxx: | then /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start |
| [03:18:11] | CCFL_Man2: | Tanthrix: these receivers can be used with hd or sd channels, as it outputs a transport stream, and thats what i want to preserve from the source, the transport stream, and i want that transport stream to be send to every frontend |
| [03:18:30] | jams: | MythLogBot- yes DSL works |
| [03:18:38] | jams: | Mythster- yes DSL works |
| [03:18:40] | CCFL_Man2: | Tanthrix: i still won't be to my liking :P |
| [03:18:42] | Mythster: | kool |
| [03:18:49] | Mythster: | would u advise it? |
| [03:18:55] | Mythster: | ok grey |
| [03:19:19] | jams: | if you know DSL then sure otherwise it doesn't have any big advantages to it |
| [03:19:32] | Tanthrix: | CCFL_Man2: It sounds like what you have is a perception problem, not a hardware problem. ;) (And no offense meant, been there, done that. But at some point, you have to realize that you've entered absurd videophile land.) |
| [03:19:34] | Mythster: | ok |
| [03:20:35] | Tanthrix: | CCFL_Man2: Hell, with my cable box doing S-video out, the difference between the original transport stream an the analog encoded PVR-150 output is less than 10 percent. |
| [03:20:58] | Tanthrix: | CCFL_Man2: I'm betting with this new card it will be much less. And since it does HD, I'll be able to get 100 percent of my channels. |
| [03:21:48] | Tanthrix: | CCFL_Man2: All with quality that is probably 90–95 percent as good as the original. Maybe even more, who knows. |
| [03:22:03] | CCFL_Man2: | Tanthrix: oh i know, but keep in mind i'll use dvb-s cards for dvb stuff i want and atsc for atsc stuff i want, qam will be only for the digicipher II channels, which is the digital format c band uses |
| [03:23:37] | CCFL_Man2: | also too, i'm going to have one receiver per channel, one qam modulator per channel, one atsc/qam pci card per channel, one dvb-s card per channel, so each frontend can use a different input |
| [03:24:28] | Tanthrix: | Well, good luck with that. Do write up something on it on the wiki when/if you finish. |
| [03:24:47] | CCFL_Man2: | thanks, i definately will |
| [03:25:12] | CCFL_Man2: | it can be accomplished easily, but lots of cash money is required |
| [03:25:34] | Tanthrix: | Money better spent on a nice big TV, I'd say. ;) |
| [03:26:36] | htpcdvbs: | can't i reload database |
| [03:27:09] | CCFL_Man2: | i'll have discovery channel sd and hd, science channel sd and hd, hd theater, history channel sd and hd, thats the only 7 i want, i'm not sure ablut tlc because i only ever watch two shows on it |
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| [03:29:02] | CCFL_Man2: | dvb channels i want are deutsche welle radio and DW-TV, and WCPE |
| [03:29:37] | Mythster: | GreyFoxx, you there? .. i'm getting an error when i try to start mysql |
| [03:30:04] | psm321: | Mythster: i can try to help you out (not an expert tho) |
| [03:30:11] | Mythster: | /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start ..... /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld: permission denied |
| [03:30:22] | Mythster: | pls do help lol |
| [03:30:23] | psm321: | are you tunning that as root? |
| [03:30:25] | Cyberai: | hey, has anyone ever hooked their camcorder or old vcr up to the input on a card like a PVR-150 and recorded the output? |
| [03:30:27] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [03:30:39] | Mythster: | do i need to set root password for myth? |
| [03:30:44] | Mythster: | i mean for mysql? |
| [03:30:48] | psm321: | where did you get the rc.mysqld from? |
| [03:30:55] | CCFL_Man2: | Tanthrix: your tv is only as good as the stuff it displays :P |
| [03:31:03] | psm321: | Mythster: you do eventually, but that shouldnt be related to your error |
| [03:31:13] | Mythster: | <GreyFoxx> as root run mysql_install_db, then chown -R mysql.mysql /var/lib/mysql |
| [03:31:13] | Mythster: | <GreyFoxx> then /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start |
| [03:31:17] | Mythster: | i did that |
| [03:31:25] | Mythster: | and the last one is saying perm denied |
| [03:31:35] | htpcdvbs: | anyone know the command to restore mysql database from a .sql file |
| [03:31:38] | htpcdvbs: | ? |
| [03:31:48] | psm321: | htpcdvbs: it's in the howto |
| [03:32:10] | htpcdvbs: | what how to? |
| [03:32:22] | psm321: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.5 |
| [03:32:29] | psm321: | Mythster: brb |
| [03:32:32] | Mythster: | psm321... any reason why its givin me that error |
| [03:35:09] | psm321: | Mythster: give me a few minutes to research what mysql_install_db is |
| [03:35:17] | Mythster: | ok |
| [03:36:01] | psm321: | Mythster: ok do ls -l /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld |
| [03:36:04] | CCFL_Man2: | who here uses an atsc cpci card to tune qam channels? |
| [03:37:02] | Mythster: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2300 2007–0324 00:52 /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld |
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| [03:38:14] | psm321: | Mythster: thats odd... i wonder what would make it like that |
| [03:38:21] | Mythster: | no clue |
| [03:38:28] | Mythster: | i dont have myth installed yet.. that matter/ |
| [03:38:30] | psm321: | ok anyways |
| [03:38:32] | psm321: | nope |
| [03:38:47] | psm321: | chmod u+x /etc/rc.d/rc.mydqld |
| [03:38:56] | psm321: | sorry rc.mysqld o |
| [03:40:16] | Mythster: | ok |
| [03:40:19] | Mythster: | done |
| [03:40:30] | Mythster: | sweet |
| [03:40:34] | Mythster: | thanx |
| [03:40:40] | mzb_d800: | iamlindoro_: further to our discussion of Sony remotes, I've added the latest incarnation of the config for my RM-U252 to: http://www.marcusbrutus.soho.on.net/blog/?p=86 |
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| [03:42:18] | Mythster: | mm psm321 ... i'm having probs |
| [03:42:41] | Mythster: | its just saying starting mysqld daemon with database from /var/libmysgl |
| [03:43:34] | GreyFoxx: | That's all it's suppose to say |
| [03:43:48] | GreyFoxx: | assuming it dropped you back to acommand prompt |
| [03:44:27] | Mythster: | it didnt |
| [03:44:33] | GreyFoxx: | hit enter |
| [03:44:35] | Mythster: | wait |
| [03:44:37] | Mythster: | it did |
| [03:44:45] | Mythster: | it def didnt 2 min ago tho lol |
| [03:44:46] | Mythster: | sorry |
| [03:44:48] | Mythster: | i stupid |
| [03:46:40] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm seems like a good night for an early sleep |
| [03:46:45] | GreyFoxx: | *p00f* |
| [03:47:36] | Cyberai: | can anyone recommend a good software package for recording thigns off of my camcorder? It's just a composite video connection to my pvr-150. |
| [03:48:02] | Mythster: | lol thanks 4 help GreyFoxx & psm321 |
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| [03:49:22] | psm321: | no problem... |
| [03:52:50] | psm321: | Mythster: going to try to get myth installed tonight too? |
| [03:53:17] | Mythster: | yeah i'm makin a slackbuild for it |
| [03:53:29] | Mythster: | if not i found the tgz... slackware install package of it |
| [03:53:29] | psm321: | ok |
| [03:53:36] | Mythster: | but i'd rahter make my own slack build |
| [03:53:49] | psm321: | been too long since i messed too much with slackware... dont know what a slackbuild is :) |
| [03:54:02] | Mythster: | lol |
| [03:54:12] | Mythster: | it compiles from source a tgz file |
| [03:54:18] | Mythster: | so that way you can rm the install later |
| [03:54:26] | Mythster: | rather than installing straight from source |
| [03:54:35] | Mythster: | straight from source you cant really upgrade easily |
| [03:55:35] | mzb_d800: | iamlindoro_: hmm ... seems to be something wrong with that def ... hopefully I'll work out the problem before the boss orders me into the shower |
| [03:57:06] | psm321: | Mythster: interesting, sounds kinda like an ebuild :) |
| [03:57:22] | mzb_d800: | ah, it's the comments (with space before #) |
| [03:57:34] | Mythster: | ebuild? |
| [03:57:38] | Tanthrix: | Cyberai: Myth can do a decent job of that actually, when combined with dvdarchive. |
| [03:57:56] | Cyberai: | Tanthrix, how do I set up the input? |
| [03:57:57] | Tanthrix: | Cyberai: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/S-Video/ . . . ut_Recording |
| [03:58:02] | Cyberai: | oh kewl |
| [03:58:03] | Cyberai: | thanks |
| [03:59:00] | psm321: | Mythster: it's gentoo's build thing |
| [03:59:00] | Tanthrix: | No prob. |
| [04:04:24] | Mythster: | hey should i have lirc installed b4 myth? |
| [04:05:02] | psm321: | yeah i think so |
| [04:05:08] | psm321: | because it needs to link with it |
| [04:05:40] | mdew-home: | has multirec been merged into trunk yet? |
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| [04:07:44] | jams: | yes |
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| [04:15:36] | xris: | ok, for all of you svn mythweb users... flv playback can now be resized and has adjustable bitrate |
| [04:17:49] | Mythster: | man i love slackbuilds |
| [04:17:54] | Cyberai: | Hey Tanthrix I followed the instructiosn really faithfully, but when I try to tune the channel in it says that all available inputs for the channel are in use and I should stop a recording etc. But nothing is recording. WTF? |
| [04:17:55] | Mythster: | freaking perfect lol |
| [04:18:16] | Tanthrix: | Cyberai: You're certain nothing is currently recording or using the tuner in any way? |
| [04:18:21] | Cyberai: | yeah |
| [04:18:25] | Mythster: | what all should i have in my pc prior to installing myth tv? |
| [04:18:33] | Mythster: | lirc.. and what else |
| [04:19:00] | Cyberai: | Tanthrix, yes |
| [04:19:20] | Tanthrix: | Cyberai: Not sure what to tell you. I did the very same thing a while back and it worked fine. What is the backend log saying? |
| [04:20:36] | Cyberai: | Tanthrix, nothing of any value in the log |
| [04:21:06] | Cyberai: | should I disconnect the analog cable connection on that card? |
| [04:21:19] | Tanthrix: | Cyberai: No, that won't make a difference. |
| [04:21:23] | Cyberai: | hmmm |
| [04:23:54] | Mythster: | hey can someone please help me out |
| [04:24:18] | Mythster: | i'm getting ready to install lirc for my Dvico usb remote |
| [04:24:30] | Mythster: | how do i configure lirc after its installed? |
| [04:27:55] | Cyberai: | Tanthrix, I switched to the s-video and it worked, thanks |
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| [04:28:10] | Tanthrix: | Hrm, weird that it works on one but not the other. |
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| [04:37:35] | Mythster: | hello |
| [04:37:42] | Mythster: | can someone please help me out |
| [04:37:48] | Mythster: | i'm trying to get lirc up and running |
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| [04:44:53] | psm321: | Mythster: hey |
| [04:45:01] | psm321: | sorry i was watching recordings :) |
| [04:46:59] | psm321: | Mythster: how did you install lirc? |
| [04:47:11] | Mythster: | i used a tgz |
| [04:47:29] | Mythster: | psm321, i compiled source into tgz and installed tgz |
| [04:47:36] | Mythster: | now what? |
| [04:47:40] | Mythster: | i have a USB remote |
| [04:47:44] | psm321: | ok when compiling did you use setup.sh? |
| [04:48:27] | Mythster: | to be completely honest i have no clue.. it flew |
| [04:48:37] | psm321: | heh |
| [04:49:02] | Mythster: | how can i test it? lol |
| [04:49:19] | psm321: | ok where do you get the slackbuild? i want to take a look at it |
| [04:49:42] | Mythster: | you make a slackbuild out of the source |
| [04:49:46] | Mythster: | but hold on |
| [04:50:57] | Mythster: | ftp://ftp.slackbuilds.org/12.0/system |
| [04:51:06] | Mythster: | then downto the lirc.tar.gz |
| [04:51:47] | Mythster: | you download that then unpackage it then drop the lirc source into the lirc folder that is created when you unzip it |
| [04:52:08] | Mythster: | unzip the .tar.gz, not the bz2 (source) |
| [04:55:13] | Mythster: | i found the 2 config files online for my remote |
| [04:55:17] | Mythster: | found them on lircs site |
| [04:55:22] | Mythster: | what do i do w/ em? |
| [04:55:47] | Mythster: | psm321, you there? |
| [04:55:59] | psm321: | i'm reading stuff... |
| [04:56:05] | Mythster: | ok |
| [04:56:10] | Mythster: | sorry.. thought i may have lost you |
| [04:56:12] | psm321: | been a long time since i setup lirc, i'm picking this up as i go along too |
| [04:56:20] | psm321: | like i said i'm no expert |
| [04:56:35] | psm321: | anyways, first things first, try just running lircd in a terminal |
| [04:56:43] | Mythster: | its cool, sorry for buggin you like this.. but thanks a ton for the help man |
| [04:56:58] | Mythster: | ok i did it |
| [04:57:06] | bsdfox__: | on a side note.. anyone had issues with nforce6/4 gigabit ethernet showing up as 100mbit in windows (works fine in linux)? |
| [04:57:30] | Mythster: | just dont use windows |
| [04:57:33] | Mythster: | problem solved |
| [04:57:53] | Mythster: | honestly man i've had probs w/ my gig network card in win |
| [04:57:57] | Mythster: | works in lin tho |
| [04:58:04] | Mythster: | so i just gave up on windows |
| [04:58:28] | Mythster: | psm321, i ran that command.. it took it but nothing happened |
| [04:59:15] | psm321: | is lircd running now? (ps -a | grep lircd) |
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| [05:00:12] | Mythster: | it didnt return anything |
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| [05:01:48] | psm321: | Mythster: ok lets see if we can find lirc's log |
| [05:01:55] | Mythster: | alright |
| [05:01:59] | psm321: | in /var/log, is there any file starting with lirc? |
| [05:02:23] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [05:02:25] | Mythster: | lircd |
| [05:02:29] | Mythster: | gedit it? |
| [05:02:54] | Mythster: | ok there are a few lines init |
| [05:03:29] | Mythster: | lircd(user space) ready, accepted new client on /dev/lircd, could not get file info for /dev/lirc |
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| [05:03:40] | Mythster: | default(): no such file or dir |
| [05:03:45] | Mythster: | caught signal |
| [05:03:53] | psm321: | Mythster: paste it on pastebin |
| [05:03:58] | Mythster: | lircd(user space read) |
| [05:04:01] | Mythster: | cant.. different pcs |
| [05:04:08] | Mythster: | well wait |
| [05:04:13] | psm321: | no network access on that pc? |
| [05:05:14] | Mythster: | i installed xchat hold on a min |
| [05:05:23] | psm321: | Mythster: dont put it on irc |
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| [05:05:34] | Mythster: | its only a couple lines |
| [05:05:49] | psm321: | http://pastebin.ca/ |
| [05:06:00] | psm321: | also put your lirc config file on there |
| [05:06:07] | Mythster: | wheres that? |
| [05:06:16] | Mythster: | i found some online i think i can use |
| [05:06:21] | Mythster: | from the lirc webiste |
| [05:06:30] | Mythster: | they have some for my DVICO |
| [05:06:46] | Mythster: | http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/dvico/ |
| [05:07:47] | mythbox1: | psm321, http://www.pastebin.ca/862438 |
| [05:08:09] | psm321: | hmm i thought there was more to the lirc config than the remote but looks like i'm wrong |
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| [05:08:18] | psm321: | anyone know how you tell lirc what driver to use? |
| [05:08:31] | Mythster: | there are 2 configs |
| [05:08:35] | Mythster: | i think one tells it |
| [05:08:41] | Mythster: | and the other tells it how to use it |
| [05:08:50] | Mythster: | ie, sets freqs to functions |
| [05:09:37] | Mythster: | psm321 id you take a look at that lirc.sourceforge? |
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| [05:10:44] | hadees: | what would you say is the best file systems for recordings and for a live tv buffer? |
| [05:10:58] | Mythster: | hey |
| [05:11:04] | Mythster: | i had that convo last night |
| [05:11:06] | Mythster: | ext3 |
| [05:11:28] | Mythster: | and it has the best windows support for if you ever wanna watch the media w/ vlc on windows |
| [05:11:40] | Mythster: | not to mention it supports HUGE files |
| [05:11:42] | psm321: | hadees: whatever you do, dont use jfs |
| [05:11:51] | Mythster: | nor fat32.. |
| [05:12:24] | hadees: | psm321, really? extremetech says xfs or jfs for the recordings partition |
| [05:12:31] | hadees: | since the files are going to be big |
| [05:13:05] | Mythster: | no |
| [05:13:07] | Mythster: | ext3 |
| [05:13:08] | psm321: | hadees: jfs is buggy (at least for me) |
| [05:13:22] | Mythster: | i had a discussion w/ 10+ ppl on here the other night about it |
| [05:13:26] | psm321: | hadees: i had terrible experiences with it, moved to ext3 |
| [05:13:39] | psm321: | hadees: havent experienced any problems with ext3 |
| [05:13:41] | hadees: | Mythster, about which file system to use? |
| [05:13:54] | Mythster: | ext3 for all right now |
| [05:13:56] | Computer_Czar: | Hey I've got the connection refused from the backend from the frontend on the same machine. It appears the backend is doing something and this seems to last for quite a while when I first startup after being down for a bit. Has anyone heard of this or has an idea what I should look at?? |
| [05:14:00] | Mythster: | was using resier but screw that lol |
| [05:14:12] | Mythster: | ext3 holds up great to recording.. used it w/ mythdora for a bit |
| [05:14:21] | psm321: | Computer_Czar: connection refused or connection timed out? |
| [05:14:26] | hadees: | Mythster, any optimizations? |
| [05:14:30] | Mythster: | but i wanna be able to connect to schedules direct and mythdora wont |
| [05:14:31] | Computer_Czar: | Refused |
| [05:14:43] | Computer_Czar: | It will do this for some time ... |
| [05:14:50] | Mythster: | what do you mean hadees? |
| [05:14:52] | Computer_Czar: | I'm trying right now ... |
| [05:15:03] | psm321: | Computer_Czar: can you post your backend and frontend logs somewhere? |
| [05:15:03] | GreyFoxx: | Computer_Czar: Recent SVN trunk ? |
| [05:15:19] | hadees: | Mythster, there are ways of messing with ext3 to make it faster |
| [05:15:24] | Computer_Czar: | psm321: Yes |
| [05:15:29] | Mythster: | oh i dunno |
| [05:15:35] | Computer_Czar: | GreyFoxx: Fairly recent ... but before Christmas |
| [05:15:35] | Mythster: | i've never messed w/ it |
| [05:15:39] | psm321: | Computer_Czar: work w/ GreyFoxx first, i was just making guesses |
| [05:15:44] | Computer_Czar: | psm321: Ok |
| [05:15:52] | Mythster: | its plenty fast just for recording tv |
| [05:15:55] | Mythster: | even HD |
| [05:16:00] | Computer_Czar: | GreyFoxx: Should I check for the latest update? |
| [05:16:07] | GreyFoxx: | Computer_Czar: Ok, if it was pre Xmas t's not the problem I suspected. If it was after it might have been since I didn't commit that code uintil like New years weekend |
| [05:16:07] | psm321: | Mythster: ok, kill your lircd (killall lircd) |
| [05:16:24] | GreyFoxx: | Computer_Czar: If you can pull something newwer I'd try that first L( |
| [05:16:24] | Mythster: | gotcha boss |
| [05:16:26] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [05:16:37] | psm321: | Mythster: run irrecord (to see if it even likes your device... we dont have to take its config file) |
| [05:16:46] | Computer_Czar: | GreyFoxx: Its weird I thought it might be network problem but it will go away ... eventually ... |
| [05:17:03] | Mythster: | invalid arg |
| [05:17:15] | psm321: | Computer_Czar: go ahead and post your logs too if its not too much work |
| [05:17:32] | GreyFoxx: | Computer_Czar: Can you et the exact svn revision? |
| [05:17:34] | psm321: | Mythster: does it say anything about what device its using? |
| [05:17:35] | clever: | psm321: can irw hear codes that arent in lircd.conf? |
| [05:17:36] | Mythster: | psm321.. should i try -f, force raw mode |
| [05:17:53] | psm321: | clever: irrecord is different from irw afaik |
| [05:17:54] | Mythster: | nope just said invalid arg |
| [05:17:57] | clever: | psm321: ah |
| [05:18:05] | Mythster: | i know other ppl using this remote no prob |
| [05:18:05] | psm321: | Mythster: try running it as root |
| [05:18:08] | Mythster: | i am |
| [05:18:12] | clever: | psm321: and irrecord wont work on my receiver since it isnt the pulse delay type |
| [05:18:15] | psm321: | ok try irrecord -H dvico |
| [05:18:22] | Mythster: | i've only got root on that machine right now |
| [05:18:44] | psm321: | Mythster: hmm you should create your myth user |
| [05:19:04] | psm321: | Mythster: howd you do the chown on the mysql dir if you dont have a myth user? |
| [05:19:17] | Mythster: | i dunno lol |
| [05:19:21] | Mythster: | :-\ |
| [05:19:25] | Mythster: | i'm new to this lol |
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| [05:19:35] | Mythster: | and that didnt work either |
| [05:19:38] | psm321: | clever: i dont really know that much about lirc, just trying to help out... if you know feel free to chime in :) |
| [05:19:42] | clever: | ah |
| [05:19:46] | psm321: | Mythster: same thing? |
| [05:19:50] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [05:20:10] | Mythster: | i know that it should work |
| [05:20:10] | Computer_Czar: | GreyFoxx: Yes ... I'm sure ... can't I pull that from the menus? |
| [05:20:24] | Computer_Czar: | psm321: Ok ... I'm messing with a few things now ... looking around |
| [05:20:31] | GreyFoxx: | Computer_Czar: No idea if it's in there. If you have the source just go to the top of the source tree and type "svn info" |
| [05:20:43] | GreyFoxx: | The Status menu might have the SVN rev |
| [05:21:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | Computer_Czar: or it's usually displayed with "mythbackend --version" or "mythfrontend --version" too... |
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| [05:21:34] | psm321: | Mythster: ok try this... take the lircd.conf.fusionHDTV and stick it in /etc/lircd.conf |
| [05:21:47] | psm321: | Mythster: then run lircd -H dvico |
| [05:21:57] | psm321: | Mythster: then paste your lirc log again |
| [05:22:04] | psm321: | Mythster: and try running irw |
| [05:22:12] | Computer_Czar: | GreyFoxx: Older than I thought 14696 ... |
| [05:22:44] | GreyFoxx: | ok, definately not what I was suspecting since that was #15362 |
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| [05:26:28] | mythbox1: | psm321, http://www.pastebin.ca/862465 |
| [05:26:36] | mythbox1: | theres the log for lircd |
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| [05:27:56] | Mythster: | and it didnt give a flat when i typed that command either |
| [05:28:05] | psm321: | huh? |
| [05:28:31] | mythbox1: | psm321, .. it ran that command fine |
| [05:28:31] | hadees: | i have about a terabyte of diskspace for mythtv, most of it will just be for recordings but i am trying to figure out how much i should use for live tv buffer, i may have up to 3 tvs using this drive, any suggestions? |
| [05:28:55] | psm321: | mythbox1: but no output? |
| [05:29:01] | mythbox1: | nope |
| [05:29:05] | mythbox1: | well in the log |
| [05:29:06] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: Why set aside any specific space ? |
| [05:29:10] | mythbox1: | i posted that |
| [05:29:11] | mythbox1: | http://www.pastebin.ca/862465 |
| [05:29:17] | GreyFoxx: | Myth auto expires liveTV after 1 day |
| [05:29:18] | psm321: | run ps -a | grep lircd again |
| [05:29:29] | GreyFoxx: | and there is no seperate livetv buffer file anymore |
| [05:29:37] | psm321: | whoops sorry |
| [05:29:40] | psm321: | ps -ax | grep lircd |
| [05:29:59] | Mythster: | no output |
| [05:30:05] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, well i thought it would be better to have separate partitions |
| [05:30:10] | psm321: | from the second one? |
| [05:30:11] | hadees: | i guess i really don't need to do that |
| [05:30:17] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [05:30:31] | psm321: | odd |
| [05:30:48] | psm321: | usually your grep will show up in there |
| [05:30:54] | psm321: | at least |
| [05:31:48] | psm321: | Mythster: run killall lircd... see if it says anything |
| [05:31:50] | Mythster: | maybe i should have ran the setup b4 compiling my tgz? |
| [05:32:04] | Mythster: | nope didnt say anything |
| [05:32:21] | psm321: | Mythster: now run killall lircd again |
| [05:32:36] | Mythster: | no process killed |
| [05:32:56] | psm321: | ok that means it was running the first time... no idea why it didnt show up in the ps |
| [05:33:54] | Mythster: | yeah i know.. |
| [05:34:00] | Mythster: | make no sense |
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| [05:34:03] | psm321: | ok do this |
| [05:34:18] | psm321: | strace lircd -n -H dvico 2>&1 | grep open |
| [05:34:21] | psm321: | in one window |
| [05:34:28] | psm321: | and then run irw in another window |
| [05:35:01] | psm321: | after running irw, paste the opens from the lircd window on pastebin |
| [05:37:40] | mythbox1: | psm321, http://www.pastebin.ca/862473 |
| [05:38:41] | Mythster: | hey i hit pause and in the irw window it did something |
| [05:39:30] | Mythster: | it has a sequence of #s then 00 playpause dvico, same #s 01 playpause dvico |
| [05:39:46] | psm321: | that means its working... |
| [05:39:52] | Mythster: | sweet |
| [05:39:53] | Mythster: | lol |
| [05:40:02] | psm321: | i thought you said last time irw was silent |
| [05:40:21] | Mythster: | no i said i didnt know what to do next bc we did that one thing and it didnt respond |
| [05:40:37] | Mythster: | i think after you had me put that config file in it must have started working |
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| [05:41:18] | Mythster: | man this is sweet |
| [05:41:20] | Mythster: | thanks a ton |
| [05:41:20] | psm321: | Mythster: ok cool |
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| [05:41:27] | psm321: | one more thing |
| [05:41:31] | psm321: | kill the lircd |
| [05:41:31] | Mythster: | ok |
| [05:41:39] | psm321: | and run it without the -H dvico |
| [05:41:42] | psm321: | to see if that works |
| [05:41:59] | psm321: | because thats probably how the init scripts will run it |
| [05:42:31] | Mythster: | so just run lircd then iwr? |
| [05:42:49] | psm321: | btw you can trim your lircd.conf now to just have the DVICO section if you want |
| [05:42:56] | blizzow: | so I copied some DVDs I backed up into my /var/lib/mythtv/videos directory. They show up in the watch videos section, but only some of them play correctly. What internal player is myth using to play my dvds? |
| [05:42:56] | psm321: | yep |
| [05:43:10] | Mythster: | didnt work.. :-\ |
| [05:43:29] | Mythster: | the config thing.. do i have to edit that b4 it would work correctly? |
| [05:43:34] | psm321: | no |
| [05:43:42] | psm321: | thats optional |
| [05:43:43] | Mythster: | ok well its failed to work |
| [05:43:54] | Mythster: | do you know where the config related to the driver it uses is located? |
| [05:44:10] | psm321: | ok just to verify that thats the problem, killall lircd and then run lircd -H dvico and try again |
| [05:44:13] | Mythster: | its not working just running lircd |
| [05:44:28] | psm321: | Mythster: i dont think there is any... |
| [05:44:43] | psm321: | except maybe in the bootscripts |
| [05:45:14] | Mythster: | yeah it works now |
| [05:45:23] | Mythster: | after telling it dvico |
| [05:45:49] | Mythster: | wait now i know how |
| [05:45:55] | Mythster: | maybe lol |
| [05:46:50] | Mythster: | hmm |
| [05:47:01] | psm321: | hmm so we should probably look in your init scripts and figure out how to tell it to run with that option |
| [05:47:11] | psm321: | or recompile lirc with just that driver |
| [05:48:17] | Mythster: | i can put it in the rc.local |
| [05:48:32] | Mythster: | should just be able to put it in that file as we do in the term |
| [05:49:33] | psm321: | ok but then make sure its not being started by any other boot script |
| [05:49:33] | Mythster: | anyway i can slow down the input timing |
| [05:49:43] | psm321: | huh? |
| [05:49:58] | Mythster: | if i hold the button for a second it registers it as multiple hits |
| [05:50:12] | psm321: | dont worry about that |
| [05:50:24] | psm321: | that gets processed further |
| [05:50:37] | Mythster: | ok |
| [05:50:51] | psm321: | that repeat rate is the fastest you could ever get it to repeat, if i understand correctly (thats how often the remote is sending it) |
| [05:51:15] | Mythster: | ooo |
| [05:51:30] | Mythster: | thanks again for helping me so much man |
| [05:51:41] | Mythster: | i would have been lost w/o the help |
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| [05:52:49] | Mythster: | i'm rebooting that box |
| [05:52:56] | Mythster: | gonna see if it picks it up on the reboot |
| [05:53:07] | Mythster: | tomorrow my new tv gets here too lol |
| [05:53:15] | Mythster: | so i gotta get this thing up and runnin myth lol |
| [05:53:23] | Mythster: | i've got a 27" lcd on the way |
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| [05:53:56] | Mythster: | running dvi out on pc to hdmi in on tv |
| [05:54:13] | Mythster: | w/ my logitech 5.1 on my pc |
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| [05:57:13] | Mythster: | psm321, IT'S ALIVE! |
| [05:57:25] | Mythster: | thanks a ton for all the help man |
| [05:57:31] | psm321: | no problem :) |
| [05:57:40] | psm321: | do you have your tuner working? |
| [05:58:11] | Mythster: | gotta install myth now |
| [05:58:25] | Mythster: | wanted to wait to compile myth till i got the remote working |
| [05:58:57] | Mythster: | why you wanna see the project thru till the end? |
| [05:59:09] | psm321: | i would try to get the tuner working outside myth before setting up myth |
| [05:59:21] | Mythster: | alright, should i try tv time? |
| [05:59:30] | psm321: | though no problem in compiling/installing it (or even trying to set it up, just a bit more confusing) |
| [05:59:50] | psm321: | sure, i dont really know what the current apps are (i use xawtv, its ancient) |
| [06:00:12] | psm321: | Mythster: i dont really care too much either way about seeing it thorugh, just wondering |
| [06:00:17] | clever: | xawtv hardlocks my system |
| [06:00:26] | Mythster: | lol |
| [06:00:33] | Mythster: | aw come on man... you've come this far |
| [06:00:34] | Mythster: | lol |
| [06:00:37] | Mythster: | you know you wanna see it |
| [06:00:38] | Mythster: | lol |
| [06:01:08] | psm321: | want to see that you got it working, yes |
| [06:01:14] | Mythster: | lol |
| [06:01:26] | psm321: | do i care whether i'm the one that helps you all the way through? not really |
| [06:01:29] | psm321: | :) |
| [06:01:33] | Mythster: | lol |
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| [06:01:47] | Mythster: | well how hard is it to get lirc to work w/ myth? |
| [06:01:50] | psm321: | i'm not always around |
| [06:01:52] | Mythster: | cant be too bad |
| [06:02:06] | clever: | hardest part with lirc is compiling the kernel modules |
| [06:02:09] | psm321: | usually i come in to ask a question, end up helping others but never get my question answered :-P |
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| [06:02:16] | clever: | but that depends on what receiver/transmiter you have mostly |
| [06:02:27] | psm321: | clever: we've got the lirc part working |
| [06:02:31] | clever: | psm321: that happens to me often |
| [06:02:52] | Mythster: | i'm new to thsi whole irc thing lol |
| [06:03:09] | clever: | im old to irc but ive seen older |
| [06:03:13] | clever: | i started in 2004 |
| [06:03:15] | psm321: | Mythster: for the lirc part w/ myth you need a config file, dont remember whether it comes with myth |
| [06:03:29] | Mythster: | but i've helped as much as i've known to so far.. think i'm gonna write a quick how to on what i've learned thus far |
| [06:03:29] | psm321: | Mythster: thats where you configure your repeat rate and such |
| [06:03:40] | Mythster: | ok |
| [06:04:43] | clever: | ive got .mythtv/lircrc working |
| [06:04:56] | Mythster: | is that in the plugins thing? |
| [06:05:19] | clever: | its affects all of the mythui |
| [06:05:45] | Mythster: | yeah but is it included in the main mythtv or is it part of the plugin set? |
| [06:05:51] | blizzow: | What's the proper way to switch from internal and mplayer to xine for all of my videos? |
| [06:06:16] | clever: | Mythster: the config file i dont think comes with it |
| [06:06:43] | Mythster: | ok |
| [06:08:00] | Mythster: | brb |
| [06:08:35] | psm321: | Mythster: its a really simple file to write |
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| [06:18:46] | Mythster: | i'm compiling tvtime |
| [06:19:56] | robbins61: | The cloverfield monster is a big godzilla like creature |
| [06:20:10] | robbins61: | if you've seen the blair witch project, you've seen cloverfield |
| [06:20:32] | robbins61: | instead of some mythical witch, the monster is the giant freak from Gears of War (mad world commercial) |
| [06:20:37] | Mythster: | shhhhh dont tell me lol |
| [06:20:38] | robbins61: | other than that, the story is exactly the same |
| [06:20:49] | robbins61: | Mythster, i'm trying to save you $8.75 |
| [06:21:01] | Mythster: | lo |
| [06:21:07] | robbins61: | it's not a good movie |
| [06:21:11] | robbins61: | total waste of my friday night |
| [06:21:20] | Mythster: | psm321, .. i think i had a bad install of tvtime lol |
| [06:21:24] | Mythster: | it def froze |
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| [06:26:18] | Mythster: | psm321... tv tuner is indeed working well |
| [06:32:58] | clever: | Query was: |
| [06:32:58] | clever: | DELETE FROM music_albumart WHERE filename= 'æ-.jpg' AND directory_id= 4198; |
| [06:33:01] | clever: | No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
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| [06:56:19] | psm321: | Mythster: cool :) |
| [06:56:55] | Mythster: | yeah buddy lol .. still compiling |
| [06:57:03] | Mythster: | but i found some good movies on joox.net to watch so its ok |
| [06:57:44] | Mythster: | you wanna roughly describe how to right that config file to get lirc and myth together? |
| [06:57:52] | Mythster: | i can prolly get it on my own if you dont wanna |
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| [07:05:39] | blizzow: | What renderer should I use in mythtv apps when I use an nvidia 6 series card? xv is performing like C.R.A.P. |
| [07:07:19] | blizzow: | by apps, I mean video players. |
| [07:11:50] | ** cafuego had the xmtv or something set for him ** | |
| [07:12:18] | cafuego: | and GL |
| [07:13:35] | cafuego: | GL and XvMC (that's the one) |
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| [07:43:35] | clever: | all the colors in my frontend are messed up |
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| [07:43:45] | clever: | looks like it may be using the wrong bbp |
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| [08:21:08] | blackest: | hurrah new weekly builds :) |
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| [08:22:25] | blackest: | should have multi-record in a few minutes |
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| [08:25:06] | Nik_Doof: | what setup work do i need to do after moving up to multirec? |
| [08:25:58] | tmba: | hey, have anyone had problems with tv and recording playback being totally stretched in mythtv (gentoo)? i.e. what I'm saying is that the top line of pixels is stretched to the bottom so the view is all vertical lines. Any suggestions what it might be? |
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| [08:31:17] | Tanthrix: | tmba: That's really bizarre. |
| [08:32:15] | Daviey: | Nik_Doof: i had to delete my tuners and/or channels and rescan |
| [08:32:56] | Mythster: | any of you use firefox? |
| [08:33:04] | Daviey: | Nik_Doof: there is an option under tuners – for amount of concurrent recordings, but didn't seem to work |
| [08:33:08] | Mythster: | if so you should get the download the all extension |
| [08:33:09] | Daviey: | Mythster: of course |
| [08:33:12] | Mythster: | its amazing |
| [08:33:32] | Mythster: | i'm downloading 2 movies at over 600kbs |
| [08:33:34] | Nik_Doof: | Daviey: yah i spotted that, mmm ill give it a go now |
| [08:33:51] | Daviey: | Mythster: 'all'? |
| [08:33:56] | Mythster: | make sure you redirect where it saves to |
| [08:34:15] | Mythster: | downthemall |
| [08:34:17] | Mythster: | is the name |
| [08:34:26] | Nik_Doof: | well, its showing 8 encoders now instead of 3 so its looking good |
| [08:34:36] | Mythster: | but you have to redirect where it saves to otherwise it will kill the download after about 50mb |
| [08:34:53] | Mythster: | is awesome |
| [08:35:25] | Mythster: | i went to the website and got the absolute newest beta2 bc i didnt know why it was limiting my downloads.. i think its bc it was saving to /tmp/something |
| [08:35:49] | Mythster: | bc now one ovie as at 350mb and the other is at 250mb and going strong |
| [08:36:03] | Mythster: | sorry cant type |
| [08:36:09] | Daviey: | Nik_Doof: Didn't work directly for me – had to rescan :( |
| [08:36:33] | Nik_Doof: | wow, have they done summat to the livetv channel changing code, it seems a sheadload faster |
| [08:36:48] | Nik_Doof: | from like 6–7secs to 2–3 |
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| [08:37:36] | Mythster: | what? |
| [08:39:17] | Daviey: | Nik_Doof: possibly if it's the same multiplex, might be faster? |
| [08:40:17] | Nik_Doof: | nah this is diff multiplex, might not just be myth as i've updated to the latest dvb tree also |
| [08:40:42] | Daviey: | what distro? |
| [08:40:49] | Nik_Doof: | seems to of settled down at about 4–5 seconds now |
| [08:40:54] | Nik_Doof: | alot better |
| [08:40:57] | Nik_Doof: | gentoo |
| [08:42:45] | Mythster: | i cannot believe how fast i'm downloading these movies |
| [08:42:47] | Mythster: | this is redic.. |
| [08:42:52] | Mythster: | they're FLYING |
| [08:43:13] | Mythster: | combined i'm downloading at over a gig / sec |
| [08:43:38] | Mythster: | glad i didnt go cheap on the cat5e cables lol |
| [08:43:59] | Dibblah: | It's not likely to be over a gig / sec ;) |
| [08:44:23] | Dibblah: | Physical limits of the network cards n all... |
| [08:44:23] | Mythster: | one is going at 550mb/s and the other 520–530mb/s |
| [08:44:49] | Mythster: | i have a 10/100/1000 card |
| [08:45:01] | Mythster: | and my campus is wired w/ t1 i believe |
| [08:45:17] | Dibblah: | A gigabit card maxes out at 1Gb/sec. |
| [08:45:42] | Tanthrix: | And 1 gigabit = 128 megabytes. |
| [08:45:45] | Mythster: | no its rated that under ideal conditions it will pull atleast 1g/s |
| [08:46:29] | Tanthrix: | Mythster: You are seriously confusing your units. |
| [08:46:42] | Mythster: | nothing limits it from exceeding that limit other than physical bottle necking, usually at connects and or the ethernet |
| [08:46:51] | Dibblah: | Mythster: And do not understand framing, ethernet, ... |
| [08:47:23] | Mythster: | well then how am i pulling up to 600mb/s on each download? |
| [08:47:27] | Mythster: | explain this.. |
| [08:47:29] | Tanthrix: | You are not. |
| [08:47:55] | Mythster: | lol ok |
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| [08:49:15] | Tanthrix: | You may be downloading at 600 KB/s for each download, but not mbps or MBps. |
| [08:50:02] | Mythster: | hey do you know wher ei can get libcdaudio? |
| [08:50:03] | Dibblah: | If you were downloading at a Gbps, then in 8 seconds, you would have 1Gb _transferred_ data. |
| [08:50:36] | Tanthrix: | To say nothing of the fact that your hard drive couldn't possibly handle two 600 mbps downloads, let alone one. |
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| [08:51:04] | Mythster: | when download from other ppls machines on my network i can dowload a gig movie in under 10s .. it shouldnt be that fast if they have a 10/100 should it? |
| [08:51:05] | Dibblah: | The most obvious thing that could be wrong is you're downloading from poisoned sources, which are all 0s therefore highly compressable. |
| [08:51:36] | Dibblah: | On LAN, it's possible on gigabit. |
| [08:51:42] | Dibblah: | Just. |
| [08:51:55] | Mythster: | no but i doubt everyone here has 10/100/1000 |
| [08:52:06] | Mythster: | i just wanna know why/how i pull such fast speeds |
| [08:52:06] | Dibblah: | Uh... Huh. |
| [08:52:31] | Dibblah: | Cos you're just so cool and hip and down wid da kit. |
| [08:52:37] | Nik_Doof: | lol |
| [08:52:41] | Mythster: | lol |
| [08:52:42] | Mythster: | ok ass |
| [08:52:50] | otwin: | Mythster: your lan interface can't do 600mbits/s, nor can your patch cable |
| [08:53:44] | Mythster: | i dunno lol |
| [08:53:52] | Dibblah: | ... I beg to differ. |
| [08:53:54] | Mythster: | may have been drinkin too much |
| [08:53:55] | Dibblah: | [ 3] 0.0–10.0 sec 1.01 GBytes 864 Mbits/sec |
| [08:54:07] | Dibblah: | It _is_ possible. |
| [08:54:25] | Mythster: | well whats the rating on cat5e |
| [08:54:37] | Mythster: | i mean its not a max rating.. its a min rating |
| [08:54:50] | Mythster: | but it'd atleast if you a base line for comparison |
| [08:54:57] | Dibblah: | Current hardware (core2, etc) has _much_ better interrupt latencies. So the potential max is nearing gigabit. |
| [08:55:30] | Dibblah: | (For gig hardware, of course – 10G works just fine, I've heard) |
| [08:55:34] | Mythster: | we just need to run all superconductors lol |
| [08:56:21] | Mythster: | yeah i have a buddy at curtis wright controls... said he's working on a gui for a network switch/hub that can tx @ 10g stable right now and they're trying to push it |
| [08:56:43] | Mythster: | i think its a contracted project actually soooo you didnt hear it from me :-x |
| [08:57:38] | Tanthrix: | Mythster: You need to read up on Ethernet. |
| [08:57:40] | Mythster: | anyone have any clue as to why mythweather doesnt work? |
| [08:57:55] | Mythster: | i'm not talking about ethernet anymore man |
| [08:57:56] | Dibblah: | It works fine. |
| [08:58:01] | Dibblah: | Good :) |
| [08:58:12] | Mythster: | i'm talking about hardware switches/hubs |
| [08:58:30] | Dibblah: | Mythster: Please, stop talking about ethernet. |
| [08:58:33] | Mythster: | it uses something equiv to a hdmi connection, the all in one plug |
| [08:58:44] | Dibblah: | For a start, this is #mythtv-users... |
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| [08:59:11] | Tanthrix: | Mythster: I'm referring to your crazy ass statements about "minimum ratings" and such. You're never going to see more than 600mbps on a gigabit connection on your system. |
| [08:59:15] | Dibblah: | Mythweather is broken in the releases. |
| [08:59:23] | Mythster: | true.. alright why is my myth weather saying it wont be installed due to some error w/ data acquisition? |
| [08:59:38] | Dibblah: | Tanthrix: I refer the honerable gentleman to the iperf report I gave some moments ago. |
| [09:00:20] | Dibblah: | Mythster: Because the site it was using to pull the data from changed it's format. |
| [09:00:23] | Tanthrix: | Dibblah: If memory serves he's running a much older system with some older drives. |
| [09:00:33] | Mythster: | so how do i fix that? |
| [09:00:45] | otwin: | Dibblah: what hardware is that? |
| [09:00:47] | Dibblah: | Upgrade to SVN or wait for another release. |
| [09:01:02] | Mythster: | alright |
| [09:01:13] | Dibblah: | i945GMM-hl, Core2Duo 1.66Ghz. |
| [09:01:23] | Mythster: | i'm slackbuilding it so i should be able to remove it later and build a new package then reinstall yes? |
| [09:01:25] | otwin: | Dibblah: i1000 lan card? |
| [09:01:38] | Dibblah: | Marvel 88E8053 LAN card. |
| [09:01:46] | Dibblah: | So yes, of course. |
| [09:02:25] | Dibblah: | No jumbo frames, no playing around. Pretty much out-of-box experience... |
| [09:02:36] | Mythster: | Tanthrix, think about it.. cat5e is rated 550.. not unreasonable to say you could pull more out of it given its a short drop, if you tap into a t1 or t2 source and have a gig tx card |
| [09:02:37] | otwin: | Dibblah: i1000 should be intel pro 1000 |
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| [09:03:28] | Tanthrix: | Mythster: You don't know what you're talking about. Go read up on ethernet overhead, frame size, etc. The cable has nothing to do with it, assuming it's up to spec. Nothing. |
| [09:03:37] | Dibblah: | otwin: Misread i1000 as gigabit ;) |
| [09:03:45] | otwin: | Dibblah: :-) |
| [09:03:57] | Dibblah: | So no, not an intel card. |
| [09:04:09] | Mythster: | alright so i'll give you a cat5 and i'll use cat5e and you're telling me we wont see a peak difference? |
| [09:04:27] | Tanthrix: | Mythster: That's not what I said. |
| [09:04:28] | Dibblah: | Yes. No difference. |
| [09:04:36] | Dibblah: | Over a short run. |
| [09:04:51] | Dibblah: | Mythster: What are you studying? |
| [09:04:55] | Mythster: | Tanthrix, that is exactly what you said: "The cable has nothing to do with it, assuming it's up to spec. Nothing." |
| [09:05:27] | Mythster: | I'm an EE |
| [09:05:32] | Dibblah: | Bwahahahaha. |
| [09:05:38] | Dibblah: | Sorry. |
| [09:05:42] | otwin: | i have never seen a card perform over it's spec – but I am rarely on a full gigabit network. i will have to try that some day – just have my doubts... |
| [09:05:43] | Tanthrix: | Mythster: What I said is that, assuming you have a cable up to spec (Cat5 for 10/100, Cat5e for gigabit), your bottlenecks will rest entirely with the ethernet standard, Nics, etc.. |
| [09:05:43] | Mythster: | and so is my buddy that works for curtis wright |
| [09:05:54] | ** Tanthrix falls over laughing hysterically ** | |
| [09:06:14] | Mythster: | yeah.. and i said that you have a gig card and plugged into a t1–2 speed connection |
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| [09:06:26] | Mythster: | that could easily pull 600 |
| [09:06:58] | Dibblah: | You know what the magical "t1" actually means speed wise, right? |
| [09:07:13] | Tanthrix: | Mythster doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. |
| [09:07:22] | Dibblah: | Hint: It's _old school_ high bandwidth. |
| [09:07:32] | Mythster: | and yes the cable would limit that.. if you ran a long length of cord you'd run into voltage drop ie, signals would be dropped and it would have to send some packages over again |
| [09:08:02] | Dibblah: | Mythster: If the cable was out of spec, yes. |
| [09:08:02] | Tanthrix: | A T1 maxes out at 1.5 mbps. And that's lower case, not that you seem to even understand the difference between a bit and a byte. |
| [09:08:30] | Mythster: | yeah but i'm saying to get an extra 50 out of a cat5e.. it could work |
| [09:08:41] | Mythster: | but if its a long length .. not so much |
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| [09:09:20] | Mythster: | well i mean tech is tx the same amount of data, only w/ the long length some of the packages are just going to be repeats do to weak/lost signal |
| [09:09:45] | Dibblah: | And the "packets" max out at...? |
| [09:09:59] | Mythster: | ? what |
| [09:10:00] | Dibblah: | "packages" – Sorry. |
| [09:10:11] | Dibblah: | 1000mbits / second. |
| [09:10:19] | Mythster: | i'm saying the binary signals would be corrupt |
| [09:10:27] | Dibblah: | So 100 or so MBytes / second. |
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| [09:10:43] | Mythster: | if you suffer voltage drop which you do thru a long cable you risk dropping packages |
| [09:11:17] | Dibblah: | Okay. This is a Myth channel, so I'm going to stop talking about ethernet and stuff. Feel free to join me in #electronics to continue the discussion. |
| [09:11:40] | Tanthrix: | Wow, that's an actual channel! Interesting. |
| [09:11:52] | Mythster: | you dont drop them like the data just disappears.. its just corrupt in the fact that when the package is received it will send back a flag and the prev package will be resent |
| [09:12:10] | Mythster: | lol |
| [09:12:22] | Mythster: | alright yeah.. i'm done talking about work lol |
| [09:12:45] | Mythster: | i hate guys that do technology at my office anyway |
| [09:12:47] | Dibblah: | Tanthrix: It's a great channel. |
| [09:13:10] | Mythster: | they always screw shit up then have to adjust right b4 its supposed to go out for construction |
| [09:13:24] | Mythster: | dibblah you live in CO dont you? |
| [09:13:39] | Dibblah: | Carbon monoxide? Hope not... |
| [09:13:47] | Mythster: | lol |
| [09:13:56] | Tanthrix: | Dibblah: Is it full of people that act and sound like 14 year olds shouting 'lol' every other sentence like this place is? |
| [09:14:18] | Dibblah: | No. It's usually quite mature. |
| [09:14:32] | Dibblah: | Sorta self policing. |
| [09:14:34] | Mythster: | do either of you use arch? |
| [09:14:47] | Dibblah: | People don't like being laughed at for being stupid. |
| [09:14:59] | Dibblah: | (No offence meant) |
| [09:15:01] | Tanthrix: | Dibblah: Not everyone, heh. |
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| [10:10:20] | Dorward: | I have a 16:9 TV, but my GeForce 7300 SE appears only to output 3:4 resolutions on the S-Video out. Are there any docs on getting 3:4 and 16:9 video scaling so both use the full height of the display (while maintaining the right aspect ratio? |
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| [10:18:33] | Tanthrix: | Dorward: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=55098 |
| [10:19:17] | Tanthrix: | Unfortunately it seems you're out of luck, but see the last post for a possible workaround. |
| [10:19:33] | Tanthrix: | Does your TV not have component/hdmi/dvi inputs? |
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| [10:21:34] | Dorward: | Tanthrix: Sadly not, its a cheap CRT |
| [10:22:10] | Tanthrix: | Too bad. |
| [10:22:19] | Tanthrix: | Might be time to get yourself a new set then. ;) |
| [10:22:39] | Dorward: | Tanthrix: I've been looking. There are some tempting models out there now. |
| [10:23:18] | Tanthrix: | Indeed. |
| [10:23:31] | Dorward: | Tanthrix: I was looking at one model yesterday, bizarely, while it had either VGA or DVI in (the spec said "PC"), the list of accepted resolutions were all 3:4. |
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| [10:24:39] | Tanthrix: | Dorward: Might be something to avoid, though not necessarely. Sometimes they just stick that info in there to cover their bases. My Sharp Aquos for instance says it only supports 1280x1024 from a PC, but full 1920x1080P works fine. |
| [10:25:33] | Dorward: | Tanthrix: Ah. Good to know. I might pop into a physical store with a laptop and a couple of cables and do some poking. |
| [10:25:35] | Tanthrix: | Dorward: Incidentally, I recommend for a mythTV system that you try and go with a native 1080P set. They have a lot less problems when doing dvi/hdmi out, since they don't suffer from the same issues that 1366x768 sets do due to EDID issues. |
| [10:26:03] | Dorward: | Tanthrix: Thanks |
| [10:26:26] | Tanthrix: | Dorward: Are you a member of Costco by any chance? |
| [10:27:20] | Dorward: | Tanthrix: No |
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| [10:27:58] | Tanthrix: | A shame. I wouldn't buy a TV from anywhere else. Full 90 day return policy (including shipping/handling for any online sets) and a 2 year warranty extension for all sets. |
| [10:28:13] | Tanthrix: | Might be worth it to drop the $50 to become a member ;) |
| [10:28:22] | Dorward: | Tanthrix: I'm in the UK :) |
| [10:28:45] | Tanthrix: | Dorward: D'oh! I guess that should have occurred to me. |
| [10:29:06] | Tanthrix: | Well, I don't have a clue then, so best of luck finding a good store. ;) |
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| [10:29:35] | Dorward: | My nearest Costco is a (theoretical) 65 minute drive through the London congestion charging zone, and I don't know if the UK stores would be of the same quality as the US ones. |
| [10:29:58] | Tanthrix: | I didn't even know Costco had any stores outside the US. |
| [10:30:16] | Dorward: | Tanthrix: I know a few decent online places, and I live near a few electrical superstores, so I can window shop and then find a better price. |
| [10:30:49] | Tanthrix: | A good way to go. |
| [10:32:08] | Tanthrix: | Ahh, the joys of TV shopping. I miss it so. |
| [10:32:17] | Dorward: | :) |
| [10:32:57] | Tanthrix: | Well, I'm off to bed. Good luck finding a good set if you end up going that route. |
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| [10:33:01] | Dorward: | Thanks |
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| [10:43:19] | TomasuAway: | I'm getting some "overflow" in extream white areas... I know its not mythtv's fault, but I figure someone here might have a solution to fix it.. I'm using the latest radeon xorg driver with tvout, and a hauppage wintv 301/dbx card with the driver in the 2.6.23 kernel. |
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| [11:04:34] | blackest: | anyone got the new weekly build configured yet (mythbuntu) |
| [11:05:30] | Daviey: | yeah |
| [11:05:37] | Daviey: | oh |
| [11:05:42] | Daviey: | -fixes or trunk? |
| [11:05:48] | blackest: | trunk |
| [11:05:53] | ** Daviey has ** | |
| [11:06:29] | Daviey: | multirec seems to work well on the revision packaged |
| [11:06:36] | blackest: | I have 5 tuners on the master backend but in mythweb it says they are remote and not connected least i managed to get rid of the original tuner entry |
| [11:07:17] | Daviey: | blackest: i rm'd all my tuners and channels, re-added and rescanned |
| [11:07:29] | blackest: | actually i might have said connect on demand |
| [11:07:33] | Daviey: | there does seem to be a bug in modifing existing setups |
| [11:07:42] | Daviey: | connect on demand... why?! |
| [11:08:02] | justinh: | I've heard most people delete tuners & set up input groups from scratch AFAIK |
| [11:08:12] | justinh: | Daviey: saving the planet! |
| [11:08:14] | Daviey: | worked for me |
| [11:08:16] | blackest: | god point |
| [11:08:23] | blackest: | good point |
| [11:08:27] | Daviey: | justinh: planet can save itself |
| [11:09:05] | justinh: | dunno what ramifications using on-demand tuners has for EIT though |
| [11:09:30] | justinh: | Daviey: yeah if humans aren't around any longer it'll heal itself very well so they say. |
| [11:10:50] | blackest: | ok fixed that bit still says disconnected so i am rebooting the backend |
| [11:11:05] | Daviey: | just a general warning for those thinking of upgrading: THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE UPGRADING TO TRUNK, SECURING OTHER DEBTS AGAINST PRODUCTION MYTHTV. YOUR HOME MAY BE REPOSSESSED. IF YOU DO NOT KEEP UP REPAYMENTS ON A MORTGAGE OR ANY OTHER DEBT SECURED ON IT. |
| [11:11:27] | justinh: | your home may be at risk if you set fire to it |
| [11:12:10] | Daviey: | the management accept no responsibility for contents of trunks left in the myth car park |
| [11:12:21] | justinh: | in the absence of anything interesting to do today I think I'll theme the popup keyboard |
| [11:12:29] | Daviey: | owww |
| [11:12:32] | Daviey: | sound nice |
| [11:12:41] | justinh: | it's not |
| [11:13:23] | blackest: | still thinks the encoders are remote and not connected |
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| [11:14:28] | Daviey: | owww |
| [11:14:36] | Daviey: | ATI released a new driver, wonder if it still sucks |
| [11:14:45] | blackest: | ok delete em again and reconfigure |
| [11:14:57] | Daviey: | i would |
| [11:15:52] | blackest: | its a bit sluggish but then i use ssh to get in |
| [11:18:50] | blackest: | I dont understand why the tuners are now remote |
| [11:20:18] | blackest: | leaping ahead does myth have any way of telling you if two recordings are on the same multiplex ? |
| [11:20:57] | Daviey: | seems not |
| [11:21:11] | justinh: | blackest: thing is, the end user doesn't have to know or care |
| [11:21:11] | Daviey: | but i've been running multirec for <12 hrs :) |
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| [11:23:40] | blackest: | well lets say there is an itv1 prog and a bbc1 prog to record at the sametime one of em will fail |
| [11:24:01] | blackest: | since they are on seperate multiplex |
| [11:24:53] | justinh: | blackest: so the scenario will be the same as if there was just one tuner previously |
| [11:25:29] | justinh: | there'll be a conflict. one with the highest priority wins |
| [11:26:33] | blackest: | ok so the enduser will know there is a conflict (admittedly the chances of bbc and itv having something worth recording at the same time is remote) |
| [11:26:52] | blackest: | will it just say no tuner available |
| [11:27:47] | justinh: | it'll just say it's recording something less boring instead, like it always has before |
| [11:27:59] | justinh: | end user doesn't need to know about multiplexes & guff |
| [11:28:22] | blackest: | ok |
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| [11:29:41] | justinh: | needs to be some documentation done for input groups |
| [11:30:20] | blackest: | yeah what is that group1 2 thing |
| [11:31:14] | justinh: | assign a tuner to an input group, then each input group can record up to X shows simultaneously AFAIK |
| [11:31:37] | justinh: | I've not seen it with my own eyes yet so I'm not 100% |
| [11:35:03] | Daviey: | seemed hard coded 1-to-5 on my revision |
| [11:35:29] | Daviey: | UK has 6 'plexes btw |
| [11:35:34] | blackest: | ah that might explain somethin |
| [11:35:38] | justinh: | Daviey: easily changed. been some debate as to whether upping the number is a good idea or not |
| [11:35:57] | Daviey: | where was this debate, missed that |
| [11:36:08] | justinh: | next door :) |
| [11:36:38] | blackest: | do you mean i should split my channels by multiplex ? |
| [11:36:44] | Daviey: | doh.. i dunno – one day this week i wasn't online and i miss something i've waited a year on |
| [11:36:57] | justinh: | I don't think disk IO is ever going to be a blocker with DVB since the max bitrate isn't all that high |
| [11:37:17] | Daviey: | blackest: Is it worth worrying about? |
| [11:37:18] | justinh: | 64Mbits/sec in Europe (or something similar) on DVB-S |
| [11:37:38] | justinh: | about 36Mbits/sec with DVB-T in the UK – all theoretical maximums |
| [11:37:50] | blackest: | dunno yet ;0 |
| [11:37:51] | Daviey: | you'd need it dynamic anyway.. unless you have 1 tuner 'plexes 1–3, and the other 4–6 |
| [11:43:43] | blackest: | this is weird mythfilldatabase seems able to get guide data from the card i am still tunerless |
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| [12:11:36] | Dibblah: | That's it. Jochen is in fact officially an idiot. |
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| [12:12:04] | Dibblah: | He's been told at least *4* times "no softcam discussions". |
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| [13:17:49] | aburns: | I'm running a snapshot of trunk from after multirec landed, I deleted both my tuners and re-created them with 2x concurrent recordings each, I got tuners 1 and 2 on DVB0 and tuners 3 and 4 on DBV1, all worked OK, so I then set each card for 3x concurrent recordings, this added tuner 5 on DVB0 and tuner 6 on DVB1 which I felt was a little untidy, further deleting and re-creating has left me with tuners 1,7,8 on DVB0 and 9,10 and 11on DVB1. What's th |
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| [13:51:23] | ltlasset: | hello, Does anyone know where the config file is located that holds information about the capture cards that a mythtv install uses?> |
| [13:54:00] | jduggan: | ltlasset: there's no file, its all in mysql |
| [13:54:51] | ltlasset: | my install keeps refering to my capture card as card #2.. when i only have one card |
| [13:55:34] | ltlasset: | i setup the card, deleted the setup because it was wrong, set the card up again.. and now the install thinks it is card #2 even though there is only 1 card. I think mythtv still has a reference to the card somewhere. |
| [13:58:01] | justinh: | ltlasset: you could have only one card but mythtv might refer to it as card #65534 if you'd added it & deleted it that many times :P |
| [13:58:40] | justinh: | I have only 3 tuners but myth refers to them as card 1 2 and 7 |
| [13:59:32] | ltlasset: | hmm.. is there anyway to fix this? |
| [13:59:45] | justinh: | there's no need to fix it |
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| [14:06:11] | ltlasset: | fixed it.. found the value in the tables in the mysql database. |
| [14:06:51] | justinh: | that wasn't necessarily a good idea |
| [14:08:14] | ltlasset: | why not? there is only 1 card |
| [14:08:23] | ltlasset: | i just gave it an id number of 1 instead of 2 |
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| [14:08:53] | justinh: | and what about anything associated with cardid 2? |
| [14:09:05] | tcpsyn: | I just installed 0.20.2... the first time I've used stable in a long time. |
| [14:09:18] | tcpsyn: | And... damn, I miss trunk mythweb |
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| [14:10:30] | ltlasset: | i just did the install.. nothing should be associated with card 2.. its just a label. |
| [14:11:10] | justinh: | nothing apart from say.. a listings source. it's not my funeral |
| [14:11:17] | blackest: | you can hack around with phpmyadmin to remove old card entrys and set it up as 1 again but to be frank its a pain in the ... and you may break things |
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| [14:11:48] | justinh: | hacking around with the db when you don't know what you're doing... ah well. you can always start again |
| [14:12:02] | blackest: | i did it once before and after 4 or 5 hours had it working ... |
| [14:12:54] | justinh: | then it'll be "wah! I broked it! help me fix it" |
| [14:12:57] | blackest: | you just need to figure out the database schema and what connects where ... |
| [14:13:29] | justinh: | yeah. easy once you know how |
| [14:13:31] | blackest: | so short answer is live with it |
| [14:13:59] | justinh: | if you don't want to end up with rogue entries, don't mess it up first time round :P |
| [14:14:09] | blackest: | ok wheres daviey ?? |
| [14:14:11] | justinh: | take your time with it |
| [14:15:27] | blackest: | I have a broken secondary backend and although i've cleaned out mythrelated packages i keep getting a protocol mismatch |
| [14:15:43] | justinh: | I remember one bit of expensive gear I bought once came with its voltage selector set on 110V. glad I RTFM'd before I plugged that thing in! |
| [14:16:09] | justinh: | blackest: same repository? |
| [14:16:23] | blackest: | hehe i used to do tech support in an internet cafe and I came in to find the owner rather shook up ... |
| [14:16:40] | blackest: | yes it should have updated to trunk latest but its not |
| [14:17:05] | justinh: | did you do the sudo apt-get update thing? |
| [14:17:30] | blackest: | anyway when pc's had a complete lockup i just used to reach back and pull the power for a few secs no on off switch on it you see |
| [14:17:36] | blackest: | yes i did |
| [14:17:46] | blackest: | several times :( |
| [14:18:43] | blackest: | any way she tried to do the same thing but didnt realise what i did and managed to flick that little red switch , got to admit i was impressed i couldnt have flicked it |
| [14:18:55] | justinh: | that jochen dude is having a laugh. posting links to suspicious mythtv patches on the -dev list held on a forum you need to be a member of to see |
| [14:19:09] | blackest: | so the computer she was workin on blew up |
| [14:19:17] | justinh: | lol |
| [14:19:33] | justinh: | pretty tricky to change one of them by mistake AFAIK |
| [14:19:34] | blackest: | she asked me if i could fix it , i declined |
| [14:20:02] | blackest: | she managed to get her fingernail into the little slot |
| [14:20:31] | justinh: | all that'd have happened is the PSU overvoltage detector crowbarred the input. Theoretically that should take the input fuse out but generally the triac across the mains input (the crowbar part) goes short |
| [14:20:36] | blackest: | it was harsh i was in hysterics when she told me what she had done |
| [14:20:46] | ltlasset: | easy fix in the database.. just do a search for the field cardid and change it. |
| [14:21:02] | ltlasset: | atleast it is easy in a new database with few entries. |
| [14:21:03] | justinh: | ltlasset: you're brave for a noob I'll give you that |
| [14:21:12] | ltlasset: | im not a noob. |
| [14:21:26] | ltlasset: | i know about sql.. just never messed with mythtv |
| [14:21:36] | justinh: | it's not something I'd ever recommend somebody new to mythtv to do |
| [14:22:01] | DGnome: | ltlasset: i'd det you just broke something |
| [14:22:16] | justinh: | infact as you've seen, discouraging peole inexperienced with mythtv from messing with the db directly is what I do. you can really (I mean _really_ ) mess a lot up |
| [14:22:55] | justinh: | granted, with a new install there's little to lose but that isn't really the point :) |
| [14:22:55] | blackest: | very true my tips are alost as dangerous as clevers |
| [14:23:16] | blackest: | almost |
| [14:23:24] | ltlasset: | well it worked.. if by some odd chance it breaks i will just wipe the db and let it start over.. nothing there to cry over loosing.. the mythbox has only existed for less than an hour. |
| [14:23:41] | justinh: | see we get a lot of people in here who can't join the dots like you did. easy to generalise :) |
| [14:24:16] | DGnome: | ltlasset: well, I have about 300GB of recordings, and I gladly let MythTV do what's needed in the db :) |
| [14:24:22] | justinh: | other than the aesthetic value there really was no need to 'fix' it though. it'd have worked anyway |
| [14:24:54] | Daviey: | blackest: o/ |
| [14:24:55] | tcpsyn: | is k8 the right arch for a core 2 quad? |
| [14:25:00] | tcpsyn: | that doesn't seem right |
| [14:25:15] | justinh: | I know what I'm doing, and back up the database every day but even then I'm, reluctant to hack the db to fix stuff that doesn't really need fixed |
| [14:25:41] | Daviey: | my opinion exactly, although i think i do a db dump every 4 hours :) |
| [14:25:44] | justinh: | k8 – that'd be AMD |
| [14:25:49] | justinh: | wouldn't it?! |
| [14:26:04] | DGnome: | justinh: emt64 and x86_64 are the same thing |
| [14:26:10] | tcpsyn: | It would, but the buntu 64 bit version.. uses x86_64 |
| [14:26:12] | tcpsyn: | yea |
| [14:26:21] | tcpsyn: | It seems awful weird |
| [14:26:21] | DGnome: | k8 should work for c2d |
| [14:26:30] | Daviey: | bah, just use i386 |
| [14:26:34] | DGnome: | tcpsyn: I just love it |
| [14:26:37] | DGnome: | tcpsyn: :) |
| [14:26:47] | DGnome: | Daviey: you loose a lot of crunch there |
| [14:26:50] | tcpsyn: | Daviey, then I lose my memories. |
| [14:26:50] | justinh: | is it worth the hassle for an extra 5% ? |
| [14:27:06] | Daviey: | i doubt it's 5% |
| [14:27:09] | tcpsyn: | justinh, maybe not today. |
| [14:27:15] | DGnome: | justinh: for med it is, it's a matter of 720p x264 or not :) |
| [14:27:27] | Daviey: | AIUI there is only a difference if you have >4Gb of ram anyway |
| [14:27:41] | tcpsyn: | Daviey, over >3 |
| [14:27:43] | justinh: | bit OTT for just a frontend IMHO |
| [14:27:53] | Daviey: | agreed |
| [14:27:56] | tcpsyn: | who says it's just a frontend |
| [14:28:03] | Daviey: | I use i386 on amd64 |
| [14:28:03] | tcpsyn: | I likes to transcode |
| [14:28:10] | justinh: | but if you really must optimise... funroll-loop yourself crazy |
| [14:28:11] | tcpsyn: | I do too. |
| [14:28:30] | blackest: | ok I havent got a parentId in capturecard coz the schemas are different |
| [14:28:33] | Daviey: | tcpsyn: do some benchmarking and show me real numbers – then i'll listen |
| [14:28:47] | tcpsyn: | Daviey, I'm not arguing.. |
| [14:29:00] | tcpsyn: | I just don't feel like wiping the box next year when it's time to go 64 bit. |
| [14:29:03] | blackest: | how do i bring my slave backend upto date when it thinks its upto date |
| [14:29:03] | tcpsyn: | that's all |
| [14:29:09] | justinh: | from what I've seen, whether you see a gain or not depends very much on what you do with it |
| [14:29:29] | justinh: | blackest: just a stab in the dark.. clear the apt cache? |
| [14:29:30] | Daviey: | optimise by not using binary packages aswell.. if you are a micro-milli-nano-pico-second freak :) |
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| [14:29:57] | tcpsyn: | Daviey, for myth.. yeah. Absolutely. |
| [14:31:03] | directhex: | if you're using gcc, it's not optimized |
| [14:31:44] | blackest: | good try but no still no upgrade |
| [14:32:15] | blackest: | ok anything i need to delete thats not in a package with myth in the name |
| [14:33:17] | ltlasset: | well for future reference if anyone wants to know.. you only need to change the 'cardid' field value in the 'capturecard' and 'cardinput' tables. they just need to be the same number.. whatever you want the cardid to be when it shows up on the OSD display. |
| [14:34:36] | ltlasset: | nice talking to you guys. thanks for the help. |
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| [14:35:20] | blackest: | should i rip out the mysql packages too |
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| [14:37:04] | Daviey: | blackest: note that confs won't get removed unless you purge |
| [14:37:09] | Daviey: | and data |
| [14:37:27] | blackest: | remove completely you mean |
| [14:37:45] | blackest: | i can stand to lose data its a slave |
| [14:37:54] | directhex: | he means purge. it's a packaging terminology |
| [14:38:48] | blackest: | so remove all myth packages remove 3rd party sources install backend reinstall 3rd party sources apt-get upgrade |
| [14:39:13] | chasep: | When I setup my capture card, I tell it to set the audio sampling limit to 32000. The audio is still high pitched and squeaky though... If I run arecord setting the rate to 32000, the sound is fine....so ti appears that mythtv is just not using the sampling rate limit....any idea why? how to make it work? |
| [14:42:25] | justinh: | chasep: change it to 44100 or 48000 |
| [14:42:47] | chasep: | tried that, smae thing |
| [14:43:27] | blackest: | how do i delete old deb packages for some reason it doesnt want to download fresh copies |
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| [14:48:00] | directhex: | define "it" |
| [14:49:53] | blackest: | the backend slave which currently is incompatable with the rest of my myth system |
| [14:51:44] | directhex: | and what precisely do you mean by "delete old deb packages" – remove things from the package cache? |
| [14:52:26] | chasep: | justinh: the audio gets faster and higher pitched if i go with a higher sampling limit |
| [14:53:05] | blackest: | still fubared the backend setup expects schema 1205 instead its 1207 |
| [14:54:33] | directhex: | schema? that's a DB problem? |
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| [14:55:43] | Daviey: | version mismatch :( |
| [14:56:31] | directhex: | i still haven't fully understood the problem |
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| [14:58:51] | justinh: | directhex: two machines, each allegedly using the same apt sources to get the latest weekly trunk debs. one has the newest the other does not |
| [14:59:05] | blackest: | well essentially every time i try to reconfigure the slave backend it says it cant talk properly to the database on the master |
| [14:59:26] | justinh: | Daviey: is it possible that there's an out of sync mirror somewhere? |
| [14:59:50] | Daviey: | i was thinking that, but they should be the same |
| [14:59:54] | directhex: | justinh, so apt-get clean, then aptitude reinstall myth* |
| [14:59:55] | blackest: | its far more likely to be me |
| [15:00:14] | Daviey: | he is using both uk.weekly.' or weekly.'? |
| [15:00:31] | Daviey: | all the same on all machines? |
| [15:00:37] | blackest: | uk.weekly |
| [15:00:48] | Daviey: | eeek, thats my mirror |
| [15:01:24] | Daviey: | I upgraded on that last night without issue on 3 machines :/ |
| [15:01:47] | blackest: | ok i think if i take the sources list from the master and put it on the slave it has to be the same then |
| [15:02:13] | Daviey: | sure |
| [15:02:38] | Daviey: | blackest: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade |
| [15:02:52] | Daviey: | i'm sure you know that. |
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| [15:03:55] | blackest: | ok in theory the slave is now cleaned of mythtv stuff |
| [15:04:25] | blackest: | so a standard backend install followed by the upgrade should do it this time |
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| [15:06:47] | justinh: | hmm no getting out of it today. torchpoo needs to be watched :( |
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| [15:07:22] | justinh: | oops! I accimedentally deletified it. bugger |
| [15:07:56] | justinh: | oops! clumsy me! I accidentally set it to never record. |
| [15:08:15] | justinh: | MythTaste strikes again :) |
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| [15:11:41] | blackest: | who is the fan |
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| [15:12:13] | justinh: | wifey |
| [15:12:24] | blackest: | you will be in trouble |
| [15:12:29] | justinh: | so? |
| [15:12:47] | justinh: | it's on BBC3 anyway, you don't need a PVR when there's BBC3 |
| [15:13:38] | Daviey: | oww, torchwood on today? |
| [15:13:44] | justinh: | if that annoying cockey idiot had got eaten by a weevil in the last series I might have reconsidered |
| [15:14:01] | Daviey: | Cap't Jack Sexy? |
| [15:14:37] | justinh: | oops. deleted the dr who recording rule too |
| [15:15:36] | DGnome: | Just for the record, defining a displayname is smarter than altering cardid in the db :) |
| [15:16:03] | justinh: | I don't use livetv, so don't care what the card is called |
| [15:16:25] | justinh: | plus I don't think the end user should even have to be concerned with what card a channel is on tbh |
| [15:16:46] | Daviey: | agreed |
| [15:16:57] | Daviey: | except damn re-runs on Dave |
| [15:17:52] | justinh: | Damnable Annoying Virtually Endless |
| [15:18:14] | justinh: | reruns of topgear, whose line is it anyway and er... do they show anything else? |
| [15:18:25] | Daviey: | QI |
| [15:18:43] | Daviey: | one more thing.. can't remember |
| [15:18:49] | justinh: | I've watched a few recorded from Dave. my my, how much more cerebral it used to be |
| [15:19:08] | Daviey: | but at one point all my decent stuff autoexpired and i had just top gear and QI |
| [15:19:17] | justinh: | rofl |
| [15:19:30] | Daviey: | MrsDaviey didn't approve |
| [15:19:33] | Daviey: | she lost eastenders |
| [15:19:55] | justinh: | been looking at most of the stuff I've got to watch. spooks, er... spooks.. spooks... some nature programmes.. |
| [15:20:05] | justinh: | some more spooks |
| [15:20:06] | DGnome: | Is there btw a solution for not having to change input when having say DVB-S and DVB-T in the same box while channelsurfing? What I want is an available channels view. |
| [15:20:21] | Daviey: | I want to check out some of directhex pron collection |
| [15:20:37] | justinh: | DGnome: or just being able to browe all channels. somebody did a patch for that but multirec broked it |
| [15:20:59] | DGnome: | justinh: oh, bummer, hope someone fixes that |
| [15:21:15] | justinh: | I don't care. don't use live tv :) |
| [15:21:19] | Daviey: | DGnome: the source is there waiting for you :) |
| [15:21:53] | DGnome: | I know, I wish I had the knowhow and skill to make MythTV better |
| [15:22:12] | Daviey: | best way is to crack in :) |
| [15:22:22] | justinh: | that's what I find :) |
| [15:22:35] | Daviey: | or pay/blow off a dev |
| [15:22:57] | justinh: | I've considered adding a feature I probably wouldn't use but I can see people might like it.. a vertical list of channels view in livetv like some STBs do |
| [15:23:06] | aburns: | Talking about Dave, is there a way with priorities to say "never record from CH19"? I keep having to modify my rules to be "only on this channel" |
| [15:23:22] | justinh: | aburns: channel recording priorities :) |
| [15:23:23] | DGnome: | justinh: I'd love that! |
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| [15:23:51] | Daviey: | justinh: when did you become an uber dev? :) |
| [15:24:07] | aburns: | justinh: I though the priorities would just make it favour other recordings instead when there was a clash? |
| [15:24:18] | justinh: | Daviey: wouldn't say uber. but i got off my fat ass & wrote mythappearance cos I got tired of waiting for somebody else to do it |
| [15:24:35] | justinh: | aburns: channels can have priorities too! |
| [15:24:58] | ** aburns goes downstairs to have a look ... ** | |
| [15:25:02] | blackest: | its still borked |
| [15:25:17] | directhex: | package versions actually patch? |
| [15:25:54] | DGnome: | From zero C++ & qt to a working plugin in under a week <-- not bad justinh :) |
| [15:26:20] | Daviey: | blackest: btw the schema on uk.weekly' is 1207 |
| [15:27:11] | justinh: | DGnome: not quite zero but virtually as good as |
| [15:27:47] | justinh: | it always helps when there's already code elsewhere which does what you want parts of your own to do. that's almost always going to be the case |
| [15:27:57] | bagpuss_thecat: | oooh, channel priorities! |
| [15:27:59] | bagpuss_thecat: | awesome :-D |
| [15:28:22] | Daviey: | might need to hardcode Dave as -9999 |
| [15:28:33] | jduggan: | i got a quote from a local aerial fitter of £160+VAT to install a roof mounted aerial, does this sound right??? |
| [15:28:49] | justinh: | http://www.mythtvthemes.co.uk/images/priority.png :D |
| [15:28:50] | DGnome: | justinh: yeah, it's not smart to reinvent the wheel |
| [15:29:00] | bagpuss_thecat: | DGnome: likewise |
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| [15:29:09] | justinh: | jduggan: mine cost £60 fully fitted 10 years ago |
| [15:29:22] | jduggan: | hmm |
| [15:29:26] | justinh: | inc vat. near manchester |
| [15:29:29] | ** bagpuss_thecat looks at justinh ** | |
| [15:29:34] | bagpuss_thecat: | Clyde1? you near Glasgow? |
| [15:29:45] | justinh: | clyde1 is on freeview |
| [15:29:48] | jduggan: | i'll ask around |
| [15:29:50] | bagpuss_thecat: | aah |
| [15:29:53] | justinh: | fecknows why |
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| [15:29:57] | bagpuss_thecat: | lol |
| [15:29:58] | bagpuss_thecat: | it sucks |
| [15:30:01] | aburns: | justinh + daivey: Does that prevent it recording CH19 though, or only let it record if it's got nowt better to record? |
| [15:30:02] | justinh: | DirgeFM |
| [15:30:10] | justinh: | aburns: the latter |
| [15:30:24] | DGnome: | Maybe I have to get off my fat ass and try to see If I can do something about that availabke channels thing... See if I can even find the patch |
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| [15:30:43] | maki_d: | hi |
| [15:30:47] | Daviey: | DGnome: go for it |
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| [15:31:02] | Daviey: | just don't post to the mailin list with a VOTE! :/ |
| [15:31:16] | aburns: | justinh: though so, it's not the tying up of tuners that's the problem, it's the eating of disk space by multiple episodes per day of stuff I've already recorded/watched/deleted |
| [15:31:17] | maki_d: | how mythtv works with Hauppauge HVR 1300 |
| [15:31:28] | justinh: | Daviey: just threaten to stop using mythtv if nobody makes it do that |
| [15:31:36] | Daviey: | good idea |
| [15:31:48] | justinh: | maki_d: how mythtv works in linux would be a more relevant question |
| [15:31:59] | justinh: | er.. how the hvr1300... ^^^ |
| [15:32:04] | justinh: | :D |
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| [15:32:27] | justinh: | maki_d: FWIW, hybrid tuners are a _waste_ _of_ _money_ |
| [15:32:35] | maki_d: | justinh: why ? |
| [15:32:36] | blackest: | Daviey how come i have more than one sources.list |
| [15:32:44] | Daviey: | maki_d: On boot the card is detected if it's in a warm state or cold state, if it's in a cold state it will load the firmware (prOviding you have it) |
| [15:32:50] | Daviey: | blackest: YOU ARE NUTS? |
| [15:32:51] | justinh: | maki_d: because you can only ever use one part of one at any given time |
| [15:32:53] | Daviey: | sorry for caps |
| [15:33:18] | blackest: | lol thats ok theres a sources.list and a mythbuntu sources list |
| [15:33:30] | maki_d: | justinh: i can swap digital/ analog on the fly ? |
| [15:33:31] | Daviey: | blackest: main one is /etc/apt/sources.list.. but extra ones exist in /etc/apt/sources.d/ |
| [15:33:35] | maki_d: | *can't |
| [15:33:59] | blackest: | i got a sources.list.d |
| [15:34:05] | justinh: | maki_d: you can but not if something (like a recording) is already using the other part |
| [15:34:12] | chasep: | any idea why whenever I delete all my capture cards, then go to add a new capture car, mythtv-setup segfaults? |
| [15:34:23] | justinh: | chasep: it's broked |
| [15:34:44] | chasep: | that a known issue, or just one of my many issues |
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| [15:35:01] | blackest: | i need a break see you all laters |
| [15:35:26] | justinh: | maki_d: if you're watching analogue & mythtv wants to record from digital, the digital recording will fail. if you're watching digital & mythtv wants to record something from analogue, the recording will fail. if it's recording something from analogue or digital and you want to watch the input it's not recording, hard luck |
| [15:35:38] | maki_d: | yes i get it |
| [15:35:41] | justinh: | chasep: not an issue at all. just broken for you |
| [15:36:13] | justinh: | chasep: try running mythtv-setup at a lower screen res like 800x600 – I suspect you're out of memory |
| [15:36:24] | chasep: | justinh: i have 2 gigs of ram |
| [15:36:32] | justinh: | so? |
| [15:36:45] | maki_d: | but since i want to use the card only for recording, it would save me money buying an reciever |
| [15:36:53] | justinh: | mythtv-setup doesn't segfault here. never have I ever seen it segfault here either |
| [15:37:19] | justinh: | maki_d: you're better off getting one analogue card & one digital card, or two digital cards |
| [15:38:10] | chasep: | justinh: so im thinking something is screed up on my end, which could also explain other issues. i give up with gentoo........any recommednations between mythbuntu, mythdora, and knoppmyth? |
| [15:38:20] | justinh: | nope |
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| [15:38:23] | aburns: | justin: I can't remember if it was you (or perhaps stuarta) when I was talking about a problem last week with Five/FiveUS/FiveLife (no mythtaste jokes please) causing backend crash recording from Compro T200 cards? Anyway with recent trunk this longstanding issue is now gone. |
| [15:38:35] | justinh: | I recommend you junk the framegrabber & buy a pvr150 though |
| [15:38:51] | justinh: | aburns: wasn't me |
| [15:39:03] | maki_d: | justinh: why 2 digital cards ? |
| [15:39:16] | justinh: | maki_d: because analogue is for dodos |
| [15:40:21] | maki_d: | justinh: well i also have analouge chanells :) |
| [15:40:43] | justinh: | analogue is going byebyes all over Europe |
| [15:40:45] | DGnome: | 2 digital cards enable double the fun |
| [15:41:23] | justinh: | and in 0.21 mythtv will be able to record more than one show at a time using only one tuner (if they're on the same transponder yay!) |
| [15:41:36] | justinh: | with digital tuners :) |
| [15:41:41] | DGnome: | p a r t y |
| [15:41:50] | maki_d: | i will see with my cable provider about digital |
| [15:41:55] | justinh: | but not with analogue tuners, because they smell of fish |
| [15:42:11] | DGnome: | aold fish stinks really bad |
| [15:42:22] | aburns: | justinh: multirec is running *very* nicely for me at first attempt |
| [15:42:28] | jduggan: | is there any reduction in quality recording two channels with one tuner? |
| [15:42:37] | aburns: | jduggan: nope |
| [15:42:44] | maki_d: | suggestion for a good dv card ? |
| [15:43:15] | Daviey: | Nova |
| [15:43:30] | Daviey: | either standard or 500 (2 tuners on 1 pci card) |
| [15:44:42] | maki_d: | Hauppauge WinTV Nova-TD ? |
| [15:45:28] | Daviey: | yeah guess so – note, some come with remote – others don't |
| [15:45:41] | Daviey: | so factor that into pricing if you are using a combo frontend and backend |
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| [15:47:19] | maki_d: | dunno i think its best to get an Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1300 |
| [15:47:36] | jduggan: | another question i have, (with SD only), has anyone had their backend record to an NFS share? or would this cause any problems if i were to do this |
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| [15:48:23] | jduggan: | im kind of limited to where i can get my feeds from (lounge), i want to rid the disks and possibly record to an NFS share on a box out of the way in a cupboard |
| [15:48:26] | DGnome: | Hauppauge HVR is a waste of money |
| [15:48:29] | GlemSom: | Is it possibul to make a DVD drive read at a lower speed? I would like to reduce the noise when watching DVDs |
| [15:49:09] | maki_d: | DGnome: i'm getting it second hand |
| [15:49:18] | DGnome: | maki_d: get a second hand analogue wintv-pci and buy one DVB-T card, youll save even more money |
| [15:49:38] | maki_d: | i'll see |
| [15:49:40] | jduggan: | GlemSom: it should read as slow is required, you can also manually set the speed with hdparm on some drives |
| [15:50:07] | DGnome: | maki_d: dedicated cards will make your life much easier |
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| [15:51:13] | GlemSom: | jduggan, Well, it's the actual RPM speed I would like to reduce... reading it at about 2x would be fine... but I think it spins it at a higher speed then that |
| [15:51:26] | defaultro: | morning folks. I have an off topic question. My daughter is looking for a computer. She wants similar to a tablet so she can carry it anywhere. She doesn't like the looks of laptops. Is there such pc like that? |
| [15:52:11] | jduggan: | GlemSom: u believe 4x is recommended for DVD, depending on your drive you can force it into 4x read with hdparm (although proceed with caution :) ) |
| [15:52:17] | jduggan: | s/u/i/ |
| [15:53:51] | GlemSom: | Ok, thanks... :) |
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| [15:57:36] | Computer_Czar: | Hey does the frontend and the backend need to be the same version? Or is it they simply must use same protocol?? |
| [16:02:57] | GreyFoxx: | they should be the same version or very very close |
| [16:03:17] | GreyFoxx: | cause even if the protocol is the same the DB structure might be slightly different |
| [16:03:29] | GreyFoxx: | or some other subtle change causing problems :) |
| [16:05:01] | DGnome: | bloody kernel, it wont play nice with femon :/ |
| [16:07:37] | jamesd: | GreyFoxx, that sounds like a bug... |
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| [16:14:34] | AndyCap: | jamesd: more like a design flaw. :-P |
| [16:14:39] | htpcdvbs: | does mythtv have channel locks? |
| [16:15:32] | GreyFoxx: | jamesd: How the heck would it be a bug? |
| [16:16:01] | GreyFoxx: | You use Version X FE with version X BE. |
| [16:17:04] | GreyFoxx: | htpcdvbs: You mean locking out channels so kids can't go to the Porn channel ?:) |
| [16:18:47] | htpcdvbs: | yes greyfoxx |
| [16:19:30] | blackest: | ok who uses schema 1207 ? |
| [16:19:32] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think I've ever come accross anything like that |
| [16:20:11] | AndyCap: | htpcdvbs: you should cancel your subscription to porn channels and download it instead. MythVideo has parental controls |
| [16:20:16] | blackest: | for some reason i'm not getting a slavebackend updated to use 1207 it says 1205 |
| [16:21:16] | htpcdvbs: | lol |
| [16:21:37] | jamesd: | GreyFoxx, both front and backend should be able to handle either part being older... so that it doesn't break when being used.. does your web browser break because its asked to talk to an older web server? |
| [16:22:10] | GreyFoxx: | jamesd: That's irrelevant. It's not a bug or a design flaw. It's the intended behaviour, regardless of if it's what users want :) |
| [16:22:42] | GreyFoxx: | If I write I program to say "1235", that's not a bug just cause you want it to say "1234" |
| [16:23:23] | GreyFoxx: | But I understand what you mean. |
| [16:23:24] | jamesd: | remind me not hire you to be a programmer. |
| [16:23:42] | GreyFoxx: | jamesd, I didn't design it :) |
| [16:24:28] | GreyFoxx: | blackest: Is it spitting out an error ? |
| [16:26:11] | jamesd: | GreyFoxx, sorry if i came off rough, i guess i'm used to backward compatibility... after i work with people that use a 10 year old operating system and refuse to upgrade because "it might break something" |
| [16:26:28] | GreyFoxx: | jamesd: heh |
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| [16:26:53] | jamesd: | eh, but it pays well. :-) |
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| [16:36:49] | Dorward: | jamesd: That's a reasonably position when dealing with minor version changes in a bit of stable software – but MythTV is only at version 0.20.2, some degree of volatility shouldn't be unexpected. :) |
| [16:38:01] | jamesd: | true.. its so stable usualy... ( 1 crash in 1 month of usage) i forget its still hasn't reached 1.0 yet. |
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| [17:03:16] | blackest: | sorry greyfox i didnt see your reply |
| [17:04:04] | blackest: | GreyFoxx i seem to somehow have to sets of schema's one is 1207 and the other is 1205 |
| [17:04:37] | blackest: | this about has me beat |
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| [17:12:30] | defaultro: | hey guys, I want to try other themes. What is everyone's favorite now? |
| [17:17:26] | aburns: | defaultro: blootube-wide |
| [17:20:41] | defaultro: | k |
| [17:21:12] | defaultro: | I saw the MythXface, it's cool but the text is Spanish |
| [17:24:39] | justinh: | mythxface is a mixture of too many styles IMHO |
| [17:24:47] | defaultro: | k |
| [17:24:48] | justinh: | plus, do we really need another MCE skin port? |
| [17:25:03] | defaultro: | oh, that's an mce style? I wasn't aware |
| [17:25:18] | defaultro: | i've never owned any microsoft based pvrs |
| [17:25:51] | jams: | specificly the neon look should be cut |
| [17:25:52] | justinh: | oops not MCE.. mediaportal |
| [17:26:10] | defaultro: | k |
| [17:26:48] | justinh: | there's one of the screens where a horrible script font has been used. it spoils the whole thing. attention to detail is king IMHO |
| [17:27:05] | defaultro: | from where? |
| [17:27:15] | defaultro: | on mp? |
| [17:27:17] | justinh: | there are some cool ideas in xface but the little niggles take the shine off |
| [17:27:20] | defaultro: | oh |
| [17:28:18] | justinh: | I think it's kinda flattering they nicked quite a few of my images though. pity I don't see any attribution going on |
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| [17:28:48] | directhex: | if it's on the internet, it's public domain! |
| [17:29:03] | justinh: | obviously |
| [17:29:27] | justinh: | there look http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2116565608&size=o |
| [17:30:39] | justinh: | there are plenty of good themes out there – themes that are pushing the envelope & doing some lateral thinking. Metallurgy is one such theme |
| [17:31:21] | justinh: | mine are all just lazily thrown together using the typical layout & style. not much I can do about it |
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| [17:36:00] | aburns: | the metallurgy OSD looks nice, but the brushed metal of the theme itself it a bit too "appleish" |
| [17:36:56] | Dorward: | Where does the system store the data about which theme to use? I was giving neon-wide a try and now I have no menu, so I'd like to hack it back to something else. |
| [17:37:41] | justinh: | Dorward: in the database |
| [17:37:47] | Dorward: | Ah ha. Thanks. |
| [17:37:51] | justinh: | you can do mythfrontend --reset |
| [17:37:59] | justinh: | or mythfrontend -O Theme=nameoftheme |
| [17:37:59] | aburns: | Dorward: can't you remember the keyboard sequence to get into setup/appearance :-) |
| [17:38:09] | Dorward: | justinh: fantastic |
| [17:38:12] | Dorward: | aburns: :P |
| [17:38:23] | justinh: | anyway if you install the font that theme requires it'll work! |
| [17:38:50] | justinh: | or should I have another bone to pick with packagers for not making BitStream Vera Sans a dependency? |
| [17:39:09] | justinh: | because if you read the instructions that come with the theme, yada yada yada yada yada |
| [17:39:22] | aburns: | Dorward: When tweaking the GUI height/width I sometimes find I've made something too big/small to fit and the menu disappears. |
| [17:40:00] | justinh: | mythappearance is the new tool for tweaking GUI height/width in trunk. I plan to build it into the setup menus somehow |
| [17:40:12] | Dorward: | mmm, well, I've changed the theme and I still don't have a menu. I wonder if I've slipped and accidently changed the height/width. |
| [17:40:32] | justinh: | Dorward: try mythfrontend -geometry X x Y then |
| [17:40:40] | justinh: | or the aforementioned mythfrontend --reset |
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| [17:40:52] | Dorward: | justinh: --reset did the trick |
| [17:41:02] | MilhousePunkRock: | Praise [enter appropriate superior being here]!!!!! I finally made my machine wake up from a complete power-off!!! |
| [17:41:21] | aburns: | justinh: I did try the mythappearance tool, I like the idea of it, it is obviously easier for a noob, but doesn't give as much control as entering the width/height separately |
| [17:41:28] | justinh: | FFS that bugger on flickr has put my theme images down as his own copyright! |
| [17:41:54] | justinh: | using/borrowing images is one thing. claiming them as your own is another |
| [17:43:37] | aburns: | justinh: I presume mythappearance itself is limited to drawing its "arrows" within the defined GUI area and that's why you can't use it to make the GUI area larger, only smaller? |
| [17:43:40] | justinh: | aburns: what's wrong with mythappearance? the whole effing point is so you don't have to guess a number, wait for the images to be resized, go back into the menus, rinse & repeat |
| [17:44:14] | justinh: | and yeah it's limited by the GUI code in that it can't draw outside the frontend screen area |
| [17:44:35] | justinh: | if anybody can code it so it doesn't have that limitation feel free and good luck with that! |
| [17:44:41] | MilhousePunkRock: | Is it normal that I do not see the frontend's main menu in an vnc session? |
| [17:44:51] | aburns: | justin: don't lose heart, it *is* a vast improvement, I must have spent ages fiddling with sizes manually |
| [17:44:56] | justinh: | MilhousePunkRock: if you're using the opengl painter, yeah totally normal |
| [17:45:05] | justinh: | aburns: I'm well aware of its limitations |
| [17:45:31] | justinh: | the intention was to make fitting mythtv to overscanned TVs a breeze. for that, it does the job just fine I think |
| [17:45:55] | aburns: | justinh: The way I've got my CRT setup (with minimal overscan) probably doesn't help in my case either |
| [17:46:01] | MilhousePunkRock: | justinh: Does that mean I have to walk to the TV now and adjust the power-off commands now? Ther will be an on-screen-keyboard so I can type with the remote, right? |
| [17:46:25] | justinh: | if you want to resize the screen bigger than it is now, just use the 'reset screen size' function & it'll go fullscreen :) |
| [17:46:37] | justinh: | MilhousePunkRock: what? |
| [17:46:45] | justinh: | on screen keyboard so you can type commands in? |
| [17:46:56] | justinh: | oh you aren't kidding |
| [17:47:23] | MilhousePunkRock: | justinh: I succeeded in making the mythbox wake up from power-off, only hibernate (which is a bit flaky for the remote) |
| [17:47:28] | justinh: | myth has an onscreen keyboard for entering text in text boxes |
| [17:48:01] | justinh: | so to change the 'powerdown command' highlight the box & press SELECT to bring up the onscreen keyboard |
| [17:48:23] | MilhousePunkRock: | justinh: So now I need to change the power-off command from sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh to [if I only knew that] |
| [17:48:26] | justinh: | same for any other setup options/popup boxes where text can be entered |
| [17:49:07] | MilhousePunkRock: | justinh: That was what I thought I would need the on screen keyboard for, until I remembered that those things are set in mythwelcome, which I have right here in my vnc session |
| [17:49:34] | justinh: | aburns: the vast majority of TVs (even HDTVs) overscan, and even if the stuff on the main screens fits properly chances are the setup menus won't :) |
| [17:50:27] | justinh: | regardless of anything else it was a useful little exercise. that won't be the last code of mine anybody sees |
| [17:51:04] | MilhousePunkRock: | Dumb question: The command to power down ubuntu systems is /sbin/shutdown, is it? |
| [17:51:05] | aburns: | justinh: I'm using VGA->SCART and have tweaked both the X modeline and the Sony engineering menu to squeeze as many pixels as possible into the visible region with minimal underscan :-P |
| [17:52:03] | aburns: | justinh: then of course I edit the themes to make use of the valuable extra few pixels |
| [17:53:25] | aburns: | justinh: I can put up with setup menus straying off the edge. |
| [17:54:30] | jams: | oh thats super annoying, often it's just the checkboxs that are offscreen. Makeing it impossible to tell what the current value is |
| [17:55:47] | aburns: | jams: sometimes happens, I suppose the alternative is less fields per screen and therefore even more [Next>] pages before you hit finish :) |
| [18:02:18] | justinh: | another thing on my todo list is to try & make the setup menus obey a kind of 'safe area' |
| [18:02:42] | justinh: | but IMHO there needs to be more rationalisation there & those decisions aren't mine to make |
| [18:04:12] | justinh: | MilhousePunkRock: /sbin/halt works for me :) |
| [18:04:14] | AndyCap: | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons . . . fe_areas.png |
| [18:04:41] | justinh: | AndyCap: I'm well aware of that thanks :) |
| [18:05:01] | AndyCap: | justinh: but you're not the only one. :-P |
| [18:05:06] | justinh: | though on 4:3 themes it's tricky to inside the safe area in some places |
| [18:05:13] | justinh: | *to stay inside |
| [18:05:39] | ** AndyCap likes the playstation 3/portable XMB ui. ** | |
| [18:06:01] | justinh: | I've started to figure that now it's easier to set the GUI sizes somewhat, maybe the rules can be relaxed a bit :) |
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| [18:06:37] | justinh: | jams: you had a go theming the onscreen keyboard yet? why are there four states per button? it's mad |
| [18:07:02] | MilhousePunkRock: | justinh: I still need to figure out what the diffenrence between halting and shutting off the system is... |
| [18:07:05] | jams: | i have not looked at it |
| [18:07:08] | ** justinh tries to find out how to complain about image ownership on flickr ** | |
| [18:08:43] | justinh: | jams: basically I put a dir inside the theme dir called 'keyboard' & put my own copies of /default/keyboard images in there. very pleased with the difference that can be made ;) |
| [18:09:03] | Dorward: | justinh: http://info.yahoo.com/copyright/details.html |
| [18:09:41] | justinh: | cheers Dorward |
| [18:09:43] | AndyCap: | http://www.flickr.com/report_abuse.gne |
| [18:10:39] | Dorward: | justinh: No problem. I need to get around to posting my complaint :) |
| [18:11:07] | ** justinh sets the wheels in motion ** | |
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| [18:13:19] | justinh: | I'd settle for a note on each image saying where they come from. they don't have to come down |
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| [18:14:21] | AndyCap: | Heh, don't think the DMCA has provisions for sensible solutions |
| [18:15:38] | Dorward: | justinh: Contacting the person responsible with a polite email as a first step is a good start |
| [18:15:57] | justinh: | Dorward: they never bothered to contact me initially, so I don't see why I should bother |
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| [18:18:11] | Mythster: | hey how can i tell if my mysql is running properly? |
| [18:18:36] | justinh: | Mythster: generally if mythtv no worky, your mysql no worky |
| [18:18:52] | Mythster: | when i try to go into mythtv-setup it doesnt take me thru the whole thing |
| [18:19:06] | Mythster: | just thru the first like 2–3 screens then says finish |
| [18:19:13] | justinh: | did the machine's hostname change recently? |
| [18:19:14] | Mythster: | but i never configure a card and all that |
| [18:19:19] | Mythster: | shouldnt have |
| [18:19:25] | justinh: | did it? |
| [18:19:29] | Mythster: | nope |
| [18:19:48] | Mythster: | maybe i didnt configure mysql right lastnight? |
| [18:20:03] | Mythster: | this is a new install and first time i've tried to do myth on here |
| [18:20:18] | Mythster: | what all commands do you have to run to get mysql up and goin |
| [18:20:36] | Mythster: | i did the mysql_install_db and chown -R ... |
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| [18:25:10] | Mythster: | i cant cd database |
| [18:25:35] | Mythster: | what dir is that in? |
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| [18:37:41] | _sajko: | so, because google doesn't like me... Is there anyway possible to turn of livetv function? the only ways i've found while searching the wiki or google is using exectv to start xawtv/tvtime/similiar. And if i do that won't i loose the sweet features like tv-show presentation and such? :7 |
| [18:38:28] | _sajko: | And to clarify, keeping livetv on for me is a waste of diskspace and it makes my poor little PS2 connected to my capture card lag (obviously :P) |
| [18:41:23] | directhex: | no |
| [18:41:32] | blackest: | anyone got a tv-tuner not available problem with latest myth |
| [18:41:54] | directhex: | mythtv cannot skip the recording part – all "live" playback is from disk |
| [18:42:44] | _sajko: | Well, what i really want is to skip the recording part and just leech of the direct capture feed :P like tvtime/xawtv does... but i guess i'll have to stick to using exectv then |
| [18:42:49] | Mythster: | should i install mysql from source? |
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| [18:44:20] | _sajko: | Mythster: if you don't use a distribution where that is the only choice or if you want to compile it with special flags there really is no point in doing that. The binaries in most distributions are solid and there's less trouble :) |
| [18:44:56] | Mythster: | well i cant seem to find the mysql for slackwre |
| [18:44:59] | Mythster: | slackware |
| [18:45:07] | _sajko: | oh... slackware :P |
| [18:45:33] | Mythster: | lol what ? |
| [18:45:34] | Mythster: | lol |
| [18:46:13] | _sajko: | well i'm not an expert on slackware so i don't really know their package handling... last time i used it there was none and you had to do it manually :P |
| [18:46:18] | _sajko: | brb |
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| [18:53:18] | _sajko: | back |
| [18:54:29] | Mythster: | hey what OS do you use _sajko |
| [18:54:50] | Mythster: | on your mythbox |
| [18:54:52] | _sajko: | Mythster: i run archlinux for my mythtv box |
| [18:55:03] | _sajko: | but that's not really optimal :P |
| [18:55:10] | Mythster: | lol i was thinkin about puttin it on mine |
| [18:55:30] | Mythster: | i have the new 2007.08–02 right here lol |
| [18:55:36] | _sajko: | well it works, but if i remember right i had to do some fiddling... but i think they covered that in the wiki by now |
| [18:55:48] | Mythster: | i tried usng my 2007.05 but it kept flagging shit |
| [18:56:31] | Mythster: | well i've got 2 open partitions so i have the space to try it |
| [18:56:41] | Mythster: | and if all else fails i guess i can ... i dunno what lol |
| [18:56:46] | _sajko: | i think i'm running 0.8.2 kernel panic on mine :P |
| [18:56:53] | Mythster: | lol ok |
| [18:56:57] | _sajko: | don't really remember since i reinstalled it like 6 months ago |
| [18:57:16] | Mythster: | dont keep it up to date? |
| [18:57:17] | Mythster: | lol |
| [18:57:33] | _sajko: | well i do run my pacman -Suy from time to time :P |
| [18:58:09] | Mythster: | lol shouldnt it by pacman -Syu |
| [18:58:12] | _sajko: | but im too lazy to reinstall it all the time :P |
| [18:58:15] | Mythster: | y updates and u upgrades |
| [18:58:40] | _sajko: | y is sync and u is upgrade |
| [18:58:51] | Mythster: | yeah but if you sync afterward... |
| [18:58:58] | Mythster: | or does it not order them |
| [18:59:03] | Mythster: | just collects options and goes |
| [18:59:14] | _sajko: | the order doesnt matter, if it gets the -y syntax it runs it first |
| [18:59:32] | Mythster: | ok |
| [18:59:52] | Mythster: | learn something new everyday |
| [19:00:07] | _sajko: | ^^ |
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| [19:02:18] | _sajko: | Mythster: my brother had to ask, what mirror do you use for archlinux? |
| [19:03:03] | Mythster: | lol |
| [19:03:31] | Mythster: | i always leave my stuff as it is out of box |
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| [19:03:37] | _sajko: | ok :) |
| [19:03:37] | Mythster: | i dont tamper w/ arch too much |
| [19:03:41] | Mythster: | slackware on the other hand.. |
| [19:03:51] | Mythster: | i delete all of slacks reps |
| [19:03:54] | _sajko: | it's his standard question, he runs the gigabit.nu swedish mirror |
| [19:03:59] | _sajko: | :P |
| [19:04:04] | Mythster: | lol |
| [19:04:09] | Mythster: | well i know who i'm going to now |
| [19:04:18] | _sajko: | :P |
| [19:04:20] | Mythster: | actually.. i tried to do an ftp install from there the other day |
| [19:04:24] | Mythster: | and it didnt work |
| [19:04:40] | Mythster: | kept getting an error saying that it couldnt download package list.. but all the mirrors were doing so |
| [19:04:51] | Mythster: | so i think it was bc i was using the 2007.05 disk |
| [19:05:03] | Mythster: | the 2007.08 should do fine |
| [19:05:09] | _sajko: | hum... sounds fishy... i did an update for my laptop yesterday so the mirror works :P |
| [19:05:23] | Mythster: | yeah but that disk is way out of date |
| [19:05:31] | Mythster: | the pacman it has on it is like 5 generations old |
| [19:05:48] | _sajko: | well the disk shouldn't really matter, since the packages are taken directly from the mirror when you use a ftp-install disc |
| [19:06:15] | Mythster: | it still uses the pacman on the disk |
| [19:06:36] | Mythster: | has to have something to install those packages it downloads.. |
| [19:06:56] | _sajko: | hum true... that could make for some trouble if it needs to be updated i guess |
| [19:07:17] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [19:07:32] | _sajko: | but i've never runned into that problem when i've done an arch install... but then again i always get new iso's when i need to install since i keep loosing my CD's :P |
| [19:07:47] | Mythster: | from generation to generation they make seamless transitions but when you're trying to jump as many as i was.. |
| [19:08:02] | Mythster: | lol |
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| [19:10:14] | _sajko: | hehe :P |
| [19:10:40] | Mythster: | fuck my life lol |
| [19:10:52] | Mythster: | i cant get mysql up and going .. where is the dir database held? |
| [19:11:47] | Dave123: | Mythster, check /var/lib/mysql |
| [19:12:24] | _sajko: | usually something like that anyway yes :P |
| [19:12:33] | Mythster: | no go charly brown |
| [19:12:47] | GreyFoxx: | If you are using slackware, with the slackware mysql package it's in /var/lig/mysql |
| [19:12:53] | GreyFoxx: | var/lib/mysql |
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| [19:13:16] | Mythster: | i dont have a database directory in there |
| [19:13:26] | Mythster: | or is that the database dir? |
| [19:13:41] | Mythster: | grey can you give me a hand. i know you've somehow managed to get things to work |
| [19:13:49] | Mythster: | i got lirc running great w/ my remote |
| [19:13:52] | GreyFoxx: | IT's not rocket science :) |
| [19:14:03] | Mythster: | and i slackbuilt my mythpackages and installed |
| [19:14:06] | Mythster: | lol says you |
| [19:14:26] | Mythster: | what all do you have to do to configure mysql |
| [19:14:30] | Mythster: | i installed the tgz |
| [19:14:40] | GreyFoxx: | /var/lib/mysql is the root mysql datadir, which contains the various database directories |
| [19:14:41] | Mythster: | and ran mysql_install_db |
| [19:15:13] | GreyFoxx: | then chown -R mysql.mysql /var/lib/mysql |
| [19:15:30] | GreyFoxx: | then sh /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld.start (thouh you probably wanna make it executable to auto launch at boot() |
| [19:15:36] | GreyFoxx: | then set the root user password |
| [19:16:54] | Mythster: | how do i set the root passwd |
| [19:17:08] | blackest: | GreyFoxx: do you know how to restore myths database |
| [19:17:08] | GreyFoxx: | the output of mysql_install_Db tells you |
| [19:17:16] | Mythster: | i copied the rc.mysql into /rc4.d/ |
| [19:17:18] | Mythster: | is that right? |
| [19:17:20] | GreyFoxx: | but basically, "mysqladmin -u root password 'NEWPASSWORD' |
| [19:17:49] | GreyFoxx: | MythLogBot: Why would you move the init script at all ? |
| [19:18:19] | GreyFoxx: | blackest: assuming you have a mysqldump |
| [19:18:23] | Mythster: | i thought that was an easy way to get it to run that script at boot.. someone told me to last night |
| [19:18:30] | GreyFoxx: | blackest: delete the current databsae, create a blank one |
| [19:18:47] | GreyFoxx: | MythLogBot: someone hasno idea what they are talkin about when it comes to Slackwares boot process :) |
| [19:18:59] | GreyFoxx: | MythLogBot: just make the init script executable and it will auto start at boot |
| [19:19:00] | Mythster: | lol alright, how do i do it? |
| [19:19:07] | Mythster: | how lol |
| [19:19:18] | GreyFoxx: | blackest: then mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg < backup.sql |
| [19:19:33] | Mythster: | i could just add it to rc.local yes? |
| [19:19:42] | blackest: | ok i dropped mythconverg |
| [19:19:59] | GreyFoxx: | MythLogBot: Why would you do that? If it's executable slackwares init scripts will start it |
| [19:20:11] | Mythster: | i dunno how lol |
| [19:20:19] | GreyFoxx: | chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.mysql |
| [19:20:30] | blackest: | um no backup.sql |
| [19:20:31] | Mythster: | awwww thank you sir |
| [19:21:10] | GreyFoxx: | blackest: well, what had to intended to restore ? :) |
| [19:21:49] | blackest: | i thought there was one after previous upgrade |
| [19:21:55] | Mythster: | greyfoxx just out of curiosity how does one change a file from exe? |
| [19:22:09] | GreyFoxx: | MythLogBot: learn to use chown :) |
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| [19:22:17] | Mythster: | haha |
| [19:22:19] | Mythster: | thanks |
| [19:22:23] | blackest: | ah theres something |
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| [19:22:45] | Mythster: | grey how'd you get so good w/ myth? |
| [19:22:47] | blackest: | /var/backups/mythconverg.sql.gz |
| [19:23:06] | blackest: | thats where the Grey comes from ;0 |
| [19:23:06] | GreyFoxx: | blackest: that might be good, assuming it's the backup you want |
| [19:23:16] | blackest: | i hope so |
| [19:23:27] | GreyFoxx: | You will need to unzip it first |
| [19:23:32] | blackest: | so how do i extract it |
| [19:23:32] | GreyFoxx: | err un zip it :) |
| [19:24:05] | GreyFoxx: | MythLogBot: I've been using Linux/Slackware since like 93 |
| [19:24:24] | GreyFoxx: | whenever the firste rev of Slackware came out |
| [19:24:25] | blackest: | do you know the command line for this please:) |
| [19:24:49] | GreyFoxx: | blackest: did you create the blank database ? |
| [19:25:28] | blackest: | not yet |
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| [19:25:35] | GreyFoxx: | do it :) |
| [19:25:40] | Mythster: | GreyFoxx, .. its still not working i dont think |
| [19:26:23] | Mythster: | wait.. i have to add myself to mysql right |
| [19:26:34] | blackest: | ok new db mythconverg |
| [19:26:42] | _sajko: | Mythster: the root user should be enough |
| [19:26:54] | GreyFoxx: | blackest: zcat /var/backups/mythconverg.sql.gz | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg |
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| [19:27:27] | GreyFoxx: | MythLogBot: What precisely isn't working and or what error message do you have |
| [19:28:00] | _ben: | MythLogBot :) |
| [19:28:10] | GreyFoxx: | Whatever :) |
| [19:28:11] | blackest: | thats done it i think |
| [19:28:24] | GreyFoxx: | blackest: You should make regular backups of the DB if you can :) |
| [19:28:27] | Mythster: | when i run mythtv-setup it flashes all kinds of error things then when it comes up i can only go thru like 3 pages b4 it finishes setup and it never configures a card |
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| [19:28:44] | Mythster: | failed to init mythcontext, exiting |
| [19:29:05] | Mythster: | how do i make the mythconverg database? |
| [19:29:47] | GreyFoxx: | MythLogBot: go to the top of the source |
| [19:29:59] | GreyFoxx: | Mythster: mysql -uroot -pYOURPASSWORD < mc.sql |
| [19:30:10] | GreyFoxx: | or maybe it's database/mc.sql |
| [19:30:19] | GreyFoxx: | It will create the blank db adn the mythtv sql user |
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| [19:31:10] | Mythster: | says no such file or dir |
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| [19:31:51] | GreyFoxx: | then find mc.sql |
| [19:32:05] | blackest: | using locate :) |
| [19:32:07] | GreyFoxx: | It's in the database directory just under the top of the source |
| [19:32:23] | Mythster: | mmm my pc says it doesnt exist |
| [19:32:47] | GreyFoxx: | Go to the top of the source |
| [19:32:51] | Mythster: | source? |
| [19:33:04] | GreyFoxx: | You were compiling from source last I saw |
| [19:33:09] | GreyFoxx: | the mc.sql is in the source |
| [19:33:15] | Mythster: | for mysql? |
| [19:33:18] | GreyFoxx: | oh god |
| [19:33:28] | Mythster: | no i did a tgz install |
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| [19:34:24] | GreyFoxx: | This is a package you downloaded ? |
| [19:34:38] | Mythster: | it came w/ slack 12 |
| [19:34:46] | GreyFoxx: | SHDAPI!P"(&E~~ |
| [19:34:54] | GreyFoxx: | The MYTHTV SOURCE |
| [19:34:58] | GreyFoxx: | not MYSQL |
| [19:35:01] | Mythster: | its the mysql-5.0.37-i486–1.tgz |
| [19:35:03] | Mythster: | lol |
| [19:35:05] | Mythster: | ohhhh |
| [19:35:18] | Mythster: | i asked for mysql? |
| [19:35:27] | GreyFoxx: | WHY THE HELL WOULD MYSQL HAVE THE SCRIPT FOR MAKING THE MYTHTV MYTHCONVERG DATABAE ?W?!#?!@?#!@? |
| [19:35:35] | directhex: | man, i wish i was running slackware right now |
| [19:35:41] | Mythster: | you know, thats a really good question lol |
| [19:35:43] | sid3windr: | :) |
| [19:35:46] | GreyFoxx: | This is not a slackware issue |
| [19:36:05] | Mythster: | no its a pebcak |
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| [19:36:24] | GreyFoxx: | Seriously, maybe you should try another distroi Maybe one that sets it all for you? |
| [19:36:32] | GreyFoxx: | mythdora, mythbuntu, knoppmyth |
| [19:36:37] | Mythster: | none work |
| [19:36:58] | Mythster: | mythdora is too out of date, mythbuntu gives me the pink screen of death |
| [19:36:59] | blackest: | i have a later version of mythfrontend and aparently it wants to upgrade my database |
| [19:37:09] | Mythster: | and knoppmyth fails on install everytime |
| [19:37:16] | GreyFoxx: | blackest: Yes, you need to keep all versions the same |
| [19:37:17] | Mythster: | and i've made mult copies |
| [19:37:27] | blackest: | mythdora weekly builds |
| [19:37:46] | Mythster: | mythdora doesnt have schedules dir |
| [19:37:49] | Mythster: | only data dir |
| [19:38:09] | Daviey: | Mythster: upgrade Nvidia |
| [19:38:17] | Mythster: | ? |
| [19:38:23] | Daviey: | Mythster: upgrade Nvidia |
| [19:38:33] | Mythster: | how would that change anything? |
| [19:38:45] | Daviey: | pink screen of death |
| [19:38:59] | blackest: | ok so now i have a slightly older version i should be able to fix my slave backend |
| [19:39:21] | Mythster: | Daviey, thats w/ the newest driver |
| [19:39:27] | Mythster: | happens under all conditions |
| [19:40:13] | Mythster: | not to mention the audio is horrible.. have to leave it all uncompressed and once in a while it still fails on me |
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| [19:46:40] | directhex: | Daviey, you're thinking of the green screen of doom! |
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| [19:50:26] | iamlindoro_: | You can get mythdora to use SchedulesDirect, btw |
| [19:50:55] | iamlindoro_: | It's just a matter of downloading a running a script right at the top of the mythdora page |
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| [20:02:35] | ccoffey: | what tv card is very good? the WinTV-HVR3000 looks nice, but it's not well supported. anything else with a similar feature set? |
| [20:03:08] | Dorward: | ccoffey: I've been very happy with my pait of Nova-T Sticks. |
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| [20:03:10] | Dorward: | pair* |
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| [20:03:20] | harminoff: | hello can I get some help please? |
| [20:03:38] | jamesd: | i like my kworld 115, does take some manual setup, and i haven't got the remote to work, but digital tv rocks... |
| [20:03:43] | ccoffey: | Dorward: ok, whtat do they do, as in fm, dvb etc? |
| [20:04:19] | Dorward: | ccoffey: Just DVB, but with a distinct lack of fuss, and they are cheap. |
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| [20:06:19] | harminoff: | I'm new to linux altogether but I just installed mythdora. I'm trying to do some shit in the terminal. When I type sudo apt-get and type in the password I get sudo: apt-get: command not found |
| [20:06:24] | ccoffey: | Dorward: hmmm, ok. i'll need anaolgue unfortunately :( |
| [20:06:35] | harminoff: | so I tried, sudo which apt-get and it returns |
| [20:06:45] | ccoffey: | harminoff: fedora doesn't use apt0get |
| [20:06:49] | harminoff: | sorry, user mythtv is not allowed to execute... |
| [20:06:57] | harminoff: | haha well that makes sense then |
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| [20:07:36] | ccoffey: | harminoff: mythdora i've never touched though, do a sudo su, then `which apt-get` and tell me what you get |
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| [20:08:35] | harminoff: | no apt-get |
| [20:08:44] | harminoff: | i pretty much want to do this |
| [20:08:44] | harminoff: | http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Cx18 |
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| [20:08:54] | harminoff: | but make isnt found eithetr |
| [20:09:03] | harminoff: | so I was trying to get make-essential |
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| [20:11:08] | ccoffey: | eh, fedora uses some other packmanagment system. i'll have alook now |
| [20:12:12] | directhex: | rpm. probably yum as a front-end |
| [20:12:14] | ccoffey: | try sudo yum install make-essential |
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| [20:13:18] | ccoffey: | although if i know fedora, that might not work, so you may need to sudo su, and then yum install make-essential as the the sbin isn't noramlly in the path of a non root user |
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| [20:14:35] | harminoff: | yeah it keeps saying "sorry, user mythtv is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/yum...' as root on localhost.localdomain |
| [20:14:57] | harminoff: | shit |
| [20:15:05] | harminoff: | n/m just did yum install make-essential |
| [20:15:08] | harminoff: | and that worked |
| [20:15:25] | harminoff: | or not |
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| [20:16:15] | harminoff: | yeah if I sudo then I get that error |
| [20:16:36] | harminoff: | if I just do yum then I get loading, followed by "you need to be root to perform this action" |
| [20:17:27] | directhex: | sudo hasn't been adequately configured. use "su" to become root, then do things |
| [20:17:36] | directhex: | ubuntu is the sudo-centric one |
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| [20:17:58] | harminoff: | i see |
| [20:18:32] | ccoffey: | off topic: solaris is going sudo centric in the next release, or so i have been told |
| [20:18:37] | harminoff: | awesome, that worked |
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| [20:19:17] | directhex: | ccoffey, they have more things to fix in solaris that that to make it remotely usable |
| [20:19:18] | harminoff: | might get this htpc working tonight afterall |
| [20:19:22] | harminoff: | thanks guys |
| [20:20:24] | ccoffey: | directhex: oh i know, i just have to use solaris at work a lot. it's good in some ways, and lacking in other. nexatana would be sweet if it was more complete |
| [20:20:45] | directhex: | ccoffey, indeed. there's a bunch of missing libraries, especially on 64-bit arches |
| [20:21:19] | ccoffey: | harminoff: no problem. have fun with it |
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| [20:23:29] | harminoff: | hmm it got everything, but is still saying make: command not found |
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| [20:24:08] | ccoffey: | open a new shell maybe |
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| [20:26:27] | blackest: | phew just reverted 3 systems to a working state |
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| [20:28:31] | blackest: | now do i go for trunk again and risk it all or stick with what i have its only been 12 hours ... |
| [20:29:30] | blackest: | Daviey hows your repository holding up :) |
| [20:31:37] | Daviey: | blackestg: getting hammered |
| [20:32:17] | Daviey: | lots of people upgrading |
| [20:32:31] | _ben: | to? |
| [20:32:31] | Daviey: | hope those peeps don't want support :) |
| [20:32:44] | Daviey: | trunk |
| [20:32:49] | _ben: | :) |
| [20:33:05] | GreyFoxx: | What app ? |
| [20:33:22] | Daviey: | blackest: Same server is hosting mythbuntu.org – and other sites.. sso bw usage is getting high |
| [20:34:07] | Daviey: | luckily i'm near the end of month of billing cycle – only 10Gb left for 4 days |
| [20:34:12] | Daviey: | GreyFoxx: mythtv trunk |
| [20:34:37] | GreyFoxx: | You hosting your own checkout of svn.mythtv.org ? |
| [20:34:49] | Daviey: | yeah, weekly build debs |
| [20:34:54] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh ok |
| [20:36:03] | ** GreyFoxx goes looking for his soldering gear ** | |
| [20:37:08] | harminoff: | damn make wont complete now. I really want this to work so I dont have to use MCE |
| [20:37:13] | Daviey: | It must be the season to solder.. everyone is doing it :/ |
| [20:37:24] | ccoffey: | harminoff: what's the error? |
| [20:37:41] | Daviey: | harminoff: why not use your fav. distro with pre-built binary packages? |
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| [20:38:09] | iamlindoro_: | Indeed, it would be myth-bunt-tastic. |
| [20:38:22] | iamlindoro_: | Not to mention you'd probably have a working system by now ;) |
| [20:38:29] | Yggdr4sil: | can somone recomend the best settings for transcoding a recording to dvd |
| [20:38:34] | Yggdr4sil: | they seem to come out less than great |
| [20:38:38] | Yggdr4sil: | with hq setting |
| [20:39:38] | Daviey: | or even gentoo...can't see why relative noobs are using src.. |
| [20:40:20] | iamlindoro_: | It's the draw of .21 for those who can't be bothered to wait five more minutes for it :) |
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| [20:44:54] | GreyFoxx: | Daviey: Hehe I'm socketing the bios chips on a few msntv2's and removing the vga connections from some old vga cards to solder onto those same msntv2 units |
| [20:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | assuming I can find my stuff :) |
| [20:45:22] | Daviey: | GreyFoxx: rather you than me |
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| [20:46:22] | GreyFoxx: | Well found it, so now I can get to work raiding the componets from the old cards |
| [20:46:31] | GreyFoxx: | I really need some finer point tips though |
| [20:48:07] | aburns: | with multirec, does it no longer give you the "myth wants to record blah, do you want to a) let it and watch b) don't let it, c) let it but go back to menu" prompt? |
| [20:48:29] | Daviey: | seems not |
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| [20:48:51] | directhex: | it shouldn't need ti |
| [20:49:10] | GreyFoxx: | I guess it would depend on if that channel is available without needing to take away full control of teh tuner |
| [20:49:15] | aburns: | directhex: what if progs are on different muxes? |
| [20:49:21] | GreyFoxx: | but I never use LiveTV so I never encounter it |
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| [20:50:09] | aburns: | greyfoxx: yes I supose it is is only a live issue, the old prompt (and its default answer) was friendly though |
| [20:50:54] | _gnome42: | aburns: you should still get those osd messages |
| [20:50:59] | aburns: | especially since there seems to be a new prompt, if all tuners are in use when you go to start watching live tv, it now offers you a choice of viewing one of the inprogress recordings |
| [20:51:57] | _gnome42: | If you happen to enter livetv just before the recording starts you may not get the message |
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| [20:52:18] | aburns: | gnome42: perhaps the issue was that I went into the guide while watching livetv, then queued up extra recordings, without realising another recording had matched a rule, therefore taking me over the limit of my tuners, and it appeared to "steal" one |
| [20:52:24] | _gnome42: | you shouldn't get the message if they are on the same mux |
| [20:53:10] | _gnome42: | yeah, I think if you're in the guide then you won't see the OSD msg |
| [20:54:00] | aburns: | gnome42: that explains it, difficult to see how it could handle it any other way |
| [20:54:03] | _gnome42: | still some fine tuning to do there I think ( in terms of messages and defaults and what not ) |
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| [20:54:44] | _gnome42: | But do pay attention to a subtle difference in those messages ... |
| [20:55:07] | aburns: | gnome42: such as? |
| [20:55:16] | _gnome42: | If you get that OSD msg about an pending recording on that tuner ... |
| [20:55:46] | _gnome42: | If it say's ".. Watch it later .." |
| [20:56:46] | _gnome42: | that means that there is a later non-conflicting showing available in the schedule |
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| [20:56:57] | aburns: | gnome42: ok, i'll pay attention to them |
| [20:57:28] | _gnome42: | If it says just "Cancel and continue livetv" then there isn't another showing available |
| [20:57:55] | _gnome42: | those aren't the exact messages but you get the gist :) |
| [21:00:42] | aburns: | I hadn't noticed before in mythweb for upcoming recordings it shows the intended tuner it will use, is that new? (obviouslly it can change its mind in response to use of livetv, or schedule changes) |
| [21:03:01] | blackest: | darn any ideas i seem to have the wrong libmyth |
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| [21:07:53] | aburns: | gnome42: glad to see OSP has paid the remaining 20% over now that multirec has landed, do you and fellow developers consider this was a worthwhile way of adding such a major feature? |
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| [21:08:58] | Der_Thomas: | anyone around that can help me diagnose an OSD stutter problem? |
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| [21:10:00] | Der_Thomas: | I recently picked up an nvidia fx 5200 and put it in my FE. I have XvMC enabled and the output looks great, but when I have anything displayed on my OSD it REALLY slows down the picture |
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| [21:10:26] | Der_Thomas: | it causes audio and video stutter and prebuffering drops |
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| [21:11:08] | Der_Thomas: | I'm running this on Ubuntu on a VIA EPIA-M with a C3 1GHz processor |
| [21:11:47] | Der_Thomas: | I also have my BE on a seperate mahcine |
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| [21:11:54] | Der_Thomas: | anyone have any ideas? |
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| [21:12:50] | aburns: | Der_thomas: presume problem is with alpha-blend OSD? |
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| [21:15:23] | Der_Thomas: | sorry I don't remember where that is? what section of set up is that in? |
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| [21:17:00] | justinh: | aburns: I wouldn't class a few hundred euros for a new feature that takes hundreds of man hours worthwhile from a pure monetary perspective IMHO |
| [21:17:15] | aburns: | Der_thomas: heh, I'm not sure exactly, probably setup,tv playback. it will look worse without bland, but might avoid our stuttering until you find a better fix |
| [21:18:14] | Der_Thomas: | Well I just checked and it is set to ECO Transparent – low CPU usage |
| [21:18:21] | justinh: | notice I didn't get a reply for my quote to do a custom theme .. 40 hours @ 40 dollars an hour :) |
| [21:18:23] | Der_Thomas: | Oh wait that is the program guide |
| [21:19:00] | justinh: | aburns: you can't change the transparency of the OSD without changing theme images. |
| [21:19:01] | aburns: | justinh: no, if looked at purely financially I'm sure not, but it is presumably a half-way house |
| [21:19:17] | justinh: | aburns: better than a smack in the face with an axe :) |
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| [21:22:02] | bsdfox_: | anyone running xen with tuners in a domU? |
| [21:22:15] | justinh: | bsdfox_: I doubt it |
| [21:22:23] | Der_Thomas: | geesh I can't fins the alpha blend stuff – I know I've seen it before |
| [21:22:27] | justinh: | not hardware tuners at any rate |
| [21:22:45] | bsdfox_: | justinh: I remember someone in here said they worked fine |
| [21:22:58] | bsdfox_: | but I can't get it working right |
| [21:23:38] | justinh: | Der_Thomas: Popup Background shading method ? |
| [21:23:45] | justinh: | Der_Thomas: in the appearance setup menus |
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| [21:27:01] | Daviey: | bsdfox_: i plan to |
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| [21:27:11] | Daviey: | others have and reported success |
| [21:27:22] | Daviey: | need to hide the tuner in DomO and pass it to the DomU |
| [21:27:37] | blackest: | Daviey you dont happent omaintain lastweeks builds by any chance |
| [21:27:53] | Daviey: | blackest: if you asked yesterday, yes :) |
| [21:28:01] | Daviey: | but i cleaned it all out last night |
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| [21:28:37] | blackest: | last week was working well, this week there is problems with libmyth |
| [21:28:56] | blackest: | I'm back on gutsy version |
| [21:29:05] | Daviey: | works for me :) |
| [21:29:17] | Daviey: | whats the prob? |
| [21:30:01] | blackest: | well when i load the frontend it says it was built against a version in january and i've got the version from december and then craps out |
| [21:30:36] | blackest: | or vis versa my master backend gets 5 remote tuners all unavailable |
| [21:31:19] | blackest: | oh and there s a problem with the protocol backends are on 1205 and frontend wants to go to 1207 |
| [21:31:47] | Daviey: | blackest: I'm running that trunk checkout on a backend and two frontends |
| [21:31:59] | Daviey: | dedicated backend, and dedicated frontends |
| [21:32:32] | blackest: | well i've been trying this on a dedicated frontend and two combo backends |
| [21:32:33] | Daviey: | methinks you needs to apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade |
| [21:32:45] | blackest: | thats what i did |
| [21:32:56] | Daviey: | any packages held? |
| [21:33:14] | blackest: | could mythbuntu control centre cause problems ? |
| [21:33:31] | Daviey: | no |
| [21:33:48] | blackest: | um initially it would only do one and didnt upgrade the other 5 |
| [21:35:12] | chasep: | mythbackend on mythbuntu suddenly wont start.............anyway I can figure out why, since it says it starts, but if you try and stop it, it says it wasnt running |
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| [21:36:28] | jhulst: | chasep: try starting it from the command line and see what it says |
| [21:36:37] | ** justinh directs everybody with ubuntu mythtv problems to #ubuntu-mythtv ** | |
| [21:36:45] | justinh: | chat among yourselves :) |
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| [21:37:01] | Spida: | lol |
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| [21:40:09] | blackest: | its not such a bad idea |
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| [21:41:49] | mediabunt1: | Hey guys sorry to be a pain, but how do i remove a user from the mythtv group ? |
| [21:42:03] | opello: | usermod or edit the /etc/group file |
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| [21:43:05] | ** justinh directs everybody with ubuntu mythtv problems to #ubuntu-mythtv ** | |
| [21:43:13] | justinh: | nothing to see here people |
| [21:43:51] | mediabunt1: | hey Hows it goin justin ok |
| [21:45:10] | justinh: | not bad. still working too hard |
| [21:48:09] | mediabunt1: | Im trying to user "usermod" but not easy . I dont se how to remove |
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| [21:48:55] | mediabunt1: | still the justin i know. lol You still smoking or you stopped |
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| [21:51:57] | justinh: | still stopped. still theming though. theming is worse |
| [21:53:00] | jams: | mediabunt1- you want groupmod..or really editing /etc/group is probably faster and easier |
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| [21:55:03] | mediabunt1: | jams ,will it not remove it from other groups that are important for the smooth operation of the OS itself. The user im trying to remove is ROOT i placed it by mistake. |
| [21:56:25] | ** justinh tries to design the next generation of select bar ** | |
| [21:56:52] | jams: | mediabunt1- i don't know of any limitations like that, however i hand edit /etc/group and don't use groupmod |
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| [21:59:41] | mediabunt1: | great thanks. |
| [21:59:43] | venger: | i'd like to pipe mysqldump output directly into tar (without creating a output file first). something like what the following attempts to do "mysqldump -u mythtv -pwhatever mythconverg -c | tar czf ${BACKUPDIR}/${BACKUPFILE} -". I'm not seeing what I'm doing wrong. |
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| [22:03:02] | sphery: | venger: shouldn't that be piped to gzip or bzip or something? |
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| [22:03:19] | sphery: | venger: tar puts multiple files/directories into one file. gzip/bzip compress data |
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| [22:04:11] | venger: | sphery, good point, i was stuck on maintaining tgz style backups |
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| [22:20:35] | Der_Thomas: | Justinh: sorry I had to run to attend to Girlfriend problems... |
| [22:21:10] | Der_Thomas: | justinh: I tried changing the popup shading that you suggested and I still get prebuffering pauses when the OSD is displayed |
| [22:21:56] | Der_Thomas: | like if I press UP to browse what is on other channels on live TV, ever time I hit UP the audio and video stutters |
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| [22:22:19] | Der_Thomas: | if I hold down UP then every time the channel info diaplyed changed it stutters again |
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| [22:23:13] | Der_Thomas: | I've changed the popup box shading to NONE and tried every OSD installed in my FE to no avail. Still the same problem |
| [22:24:20] | Der_Thomas: | Is this just my underpowered VIA C3 showing that I need to get more CPU? |
| [22:24:41] | jams: | Der_Thomas- are you using xvmc ? |
| [22:24:49] | Der_Thomas: | jams: yes |
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| [22:25:11] | jams: | i don't have a solution for you, just know that it's a VERY common problem. |
| [22:25:13] | Der_Thomas: | VIA EPIA-M C3 1GHz with an Nvidia fx 5200 |
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| [22:26:11] | Der_Thomas: | jams, I think that I'm gonna try a AMD Athlon 2100+ that I have laying around here. I just hate to think I wasted my money on this EPIA-M |
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| [22:26:39] | jams: | just purchased the epia? |
| [22:27:11] | jams: | GreyFoxx- you about? |
| [22:27:52] | Der_Thomas: | no had it for a while now, and was battling its inability to deinterlace video or put out video that was properly interlaced |
| [22:28:22] | Der_Thomas: | so I boutght an nvidia fx5200 now I have good video out, but seems like the procesor still suxks |
| [22:29:22] | jams: | Der_Thomas- i have very strong feelings against the via c3/c7 but some seem to like it. |
| [22:30:31] | Der_Thomas: | jams, yeah it seemed like the perfect solution for a HTPC in print, but in reality it is just underpowered and it's onboard video is teriable. |
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| [22:30:50] | Der_Thomas: | Jams, Justinh has one too and he hates it as much as I do |
| [22:31:11] | jams: | heh i have 2 collecting dust |
| [22:31:30] | jams: | one of them is the epia-M |
| [22:31:54] | Der_Thomas: | yeah so you know the deal |
| [22:32:10] | Der_Thomas: | you ever try to sell one on Ebay? I wonder what it is worth now |
| [22:32:16] | jams: | Der_Thomas- i have not |
| [22:33:11] | Der_Thomas: | have you ever had problems with the -m on board ethernet? mine never worked – not even a light on the damm thing |
| [22:33:19] | jams: | i dislike the via cpu almost as much as perl. My opinions on perl are no secret . |
| [22:33:45] | Der_Thomas: | haha – perl is the only language I can do anything with |
| [22:33:52] | jams: | ethernet worked for me |
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| [22:36:34] | Der_Thomas_: | Jams:sorry, I kicked the plug out of my computer – and had to re-start: did you ever have problems with the ethernet? |
| [22:37:08] | jams: | Der_Thomas- i can rant for hours about perl.. try to refrain as it doesn't solve anything. |
| [22:37:20] | jams: | the ethernet worked for me |
| [22:37:27] | mchou: | jams: you must love python then |
| [22:37:40] | jams: | mchou- actually yes i do |
| [22:37:53] | mchou: | jams: yeah, perl is unmaintainable |
| [22:38:03] | mchou: | hate reading code in perl |
| [22:38:22] | mchou: | never mind hacking perl code |
| [22:38:32] | Der_Thomas_: | I think that I'm just too shitty of a programmer to know the difference |
| [22:38:55] | jams: | puting the code aspect aside, even the administration/installation of perl annoys me. |
| [22:39:06] | Der_Thomas_: | I've had some perl code running on a business website for ~7 years though and never had a problem maintaining it |
| [22:39:07] | mchou: | I think most ppl realize now perl is just a crap language |
| [22:39:30] | venger: | haha |
| [22:39:39] | cafuego: | Just like everything else that's not C. |
| [22:39:58] | venger: | Der_Thomas, i use perl daily and monitor oracle e-business suite installations. to each his own. |
| [22:39:58] | mchou: | python is not C and is useful and good |
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| [22:40:23] | GreyFoxx: | Der_Thomas: hehe I've got some perl out there that handles a million or so emails a day for the last 8 years :) |
| [22:40:24] | jams: | venger- right to each his own =) |
| [22:40:26] | Der_Thomas_: | yep, i\I agree |
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| [22:41:03] | GreyFoxx: | For scripting tasks I general go bash > perl, anything more I generally do in X |
| [22:41:04] | GreyFoxx: | C |
| [22:41:13] | tymoplap: | hello everybody |
| [22:41:30] | cafuego: | GreyFoxx: you can script in C too – tcc ftw |
| [22:41:55] | GreyFoxx: | Can't say I've ever come accross that |
| [22:42:15] | ** cafuego hadn't either until last november ** | |
| [22:42:26] | mchou: | gah. scripting in c. that's just ridiculous. SEGV on string handling |
| [22:42:26] | _ben: | lua! |
| [22:42:42] | cafuego: | now I have a nice bintfmt handler that executes files ending in .c :-) |
| [22:42:52] | tymoplap: | i have a problem with my sounc configuration with mythtv |
| [22:43:02] | cafuego: | mchou: Rediculous maybe, it's certainly fast |
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| [22:43:20] | tymoplap: | cananybody help me ? |
| [22:43:31] | mchou: | cafuego: who cares about spped when it segfaults? |
| [22:43:37] | mchou: | speed* |
| [22:43:48] | GreyFoxx: | tymoplap: Just ask, if someone can help they will |
| [22:43:53] | tymoplap: | ok |
| [22:44:03] | cafuego: | mchou: why would it segfault if you wrote it properly and without bugs? |
| [22:44:22] | tymoplap: | i can test the surround 5.1 sound under command line |
| [22:44:29] | venger: | i really think perl is great if you deal with databases. DBI and DBD-Oracle is a blessing. |
| [22:44:42] | tymoplap: | but i can not hear 5.1 sound with mythtv |
| [22:45:08] | mchou: | cafuego: lol. anyone who still waste time writing a "proper" program in C needs to get their head examined. No memory management makes you less productive |
| [22:45:18] | tymoplap: | i followed that : http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound |
| [22:45:41] | mchou: | cafuego: so scripting in C is definitely CRAZY |
| [22:45:49] | tymoplap: | but i only can have stereo sound |
| [22:46:05] | cafuego: | mchou: You don't need memory management if you don't use a bloated scripting language ;-) |
| [22:46:29] | mchou: | cafuego: considering the amount of string manipulations that generally needs to be done in a script |
| [22:46:35] | GreyFoxx: | Anyone here using a rotor with a dish ? |
| [22:46:52] | mchou: | cafuego: like regex or whatnot |
| [22:47:01] | tymoplap: | and my soundcard does not have digital output : only alanog |
| [22:47:05] | cafuego: | mchou: your script != my script |
| [22:47:35] | mchou: | cafuego: yeah, whatever |
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| [22:48:09] | tymoplap: | so, if anybody can say me what i have to put in the config general of mythtv .... and if i made bad to copy the ~/.asoundrc |
| [22:48:09] | mchou: | cafuego: get with modern programming practices instead of some stone age stuff |
| [22:48:47] | mchou: | cafuego: C has it's place in system programming, but using it for scripts is just totally retarded |
| [22:48:48] | cafuego: | mchou: Why would I stop using what works fine and is fast and instead use something like python that needs five times the ram and runs at one tenth the speed? |
| [22:49:12] | cafuego: | old != crap |
| [22:49:23] | mchou: | I never said C was crap |
| [22:49:47] | mchou: | I said C was crap for scripting. If you dont understand that there is no point arguing |
| [22:49:58] | venger: | cafuego, 5 times 256k isn't that bad ;) |
| [22:50:03] | cafuego: | I never said I didn't use modern practices <heh> |
| [22:50:09] | jams: | GreyFoxx- i am not. Assuming you need someone to test a patch? |
| [22:50:20] | cafuego: | venger: tell that to the linksys AP that's running the script ;-) |
| [22:50:38] | jams: | there was some talk a few days ago in mythtv, about how the rotor position was not being kept correctly. |
| [22:50:59] | GreyFoxx: | jams: Nope, considering putting up my dishes and thought I'd get a r otor for scanning all the birds I can see from here for TA channels |
| [22:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | FTA |
| [22:52:24] | jams: | in that case your forewarned about a possible problem with recording the rotor position. |
| [22:52:44] | jams: | someting about it was always set to 0 |
| [22:53:01] | GreyFoxx: | Then I'll just be stuck working on fixing it :) |
| [22:53:11] | jams: | heh |
| [22:53:26] | jams: | think janneg was looking at it, but not for sure. |
| [22:54:39] | directhex: | god, i'm agreeing with mchou |
| [22:54:58] | GreyFoxx: | right now I'm looking for rotor recommendations :) |
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| [22:55:53] | joebob_: | trying to build mythtv on osx intel.. followed wiki but now Im getting ERROR! You must have a threaded Qt installed to compile MythTV. |
| [22:56:03] | jams: | dad used to send my outside to turn the antenna. |
| [22:56:17] | mchou: | jams: haha |
| [22:56:30] | mchou: | jams: now what does he do? :) |
| [22:56:52] | jams: | he has dish, but before that a rotor was puchased. |
| [22:59:15] | Mythster: | hey anyone use mythbuntu? |
| [22:59:25] | Daviey: | no, nobody |
| [22:59:26] | Mythster: | i cant find any good repositories for it |
| [22:59:26] | Daviey: | ever |
| [23:00:04] | Daviey: | stable is all in ubuntu repo's |
| [23:00:12] | Daviey: | weekbuild repo's? |
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| [23:00:20] | directhex: | it's a redhatism to build a repo list with at least 40 entries |
| [23:00:29] | Mythster: | i was just looking for some other reps to add |
| [23:00:35] | directhex: | i mean, the standard repos might have 25 thousand packages, but hey, who's counting? |
| [23:00:38] | Mythster: | if you dont think i should bother i wont |
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| [23:00:59] | joebob_: | anyone build mythtv on osx intel??? Trying to follow the wiki and having probs.. |
| [23:01:08] | directhex: | well. 30 thousand these days |
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| [23:09:06] | Der_Thomas: | jams you still around? |
| [23:09:29] | CCFL_Man2: | anyone here in the US that gets QAM channels from a cable provider? |
| [23:09:46] | Der_Thomas: | sorry no QAM here |
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| [23:11:29] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: why not? |
| [23:11:32] | jhulst: | CCFL_Man2: I do |
| [23:11:52] | CCFL_Man2: | jhulst: what card do you use? |
| [23:12:01] | jhulst: | CCFL_Man2: HD Homerun |
| [23:13:40] | GreyFoxx: | CCFL_Man2: Not in the US but I get QAM over cable here in Canada |
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| [23:14:04] | CCFL_Man2: | hd homerun, hmm.. |
| [23:14:13] | CCFL_Man2: | GreyFoxx: and what card do you use? |
| [23:14:18] | ** GreyFoxx uses an Avermedia A180 ** | |
| [23:14:30] | GreyFoxx: | works great with multirec |
| [23:15:18] | GreyFoxx: | I'd love to play with an hdhomerome one of these days |
| [23:15:27] | GreyFoxx: | hdhomerun |
| [23:15:27] | CCFL_Man2: | you know if it's only 64 and 256 qam or are there more constellations your cable company uses? |
| [23:15:34] | Der_Thomas: | OK, so I've been trying to diagnose why I am getting prebuffering pauses when OSD is bing displayed. I just realized that when just watching live TV I have about 45% cpu, when when there is OSD on the screen it goes up to 98% cpu on just mythfrontend and 100% cpu total. |
| [23:15:40] | Der_Thomas: | Anyone have any ideas why? |
| [23:15:44] | GreyFoxx: | 64 and 256 only here |
| [23:16:16] | CCFL_Man2: | 256 is used for HD? |
| [23:16:34] | GreyFoxx: | No idea, non of the HD channels are in the clear |
| [23:16:35] | directhex: | Der_Thomas, what's your cpu? |
| [23:16:58] | jhulst: | I have 256 non HD |
| [23:16:59] | Der_Thomas: | via VIA C3 1GHz on a EPIA-M |
| [23:17:03] | jhulst: | It's intermixed, I'm not sure why |
| [23:17:13] | CCFL_Man2: | ahh |
| [23:17:13] | directhex: | Der_Thomas, deal with it. that's as good as it gets \o/ |
| [23:17:22] | CCFL_Man2: | jhulst: interesting |
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| [23:18:36] | Der_Thomas: | haha |
| [23:18:39] | Der_Thomas: | really? |
| [23:19:03] | directhex: | Der_Thomas, c3 is a big pile of steaming arse. try setting the osd to the worst-looking type, it might help |
| [23:20:12] | CCFL_Man2: | GreyFoxx: yours have AV inputs too? |
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| [23:20:46] | Der_Thomas: | yeah I've come to that conclusion – I'm already running ods on the defauly ugly stuff and no shading |
| [23:21:12] | GreyFoxx: | CCC: yeah fed into a framegrabber chip. Never used it though |
| [23:22:10] | CCFL_Man2: | GreyFoxx: oh, it's a frame grabber? |
| [23:22:43] | directhex: | Der_Thomas, what kind of tv card? |
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| [23:23:01] | GreyFoxx: | CCFL_Man2: the analog inputs are, |
| [23:23:08] | jams: | GreyFoxx- /tmp/nomfe has been implmented. So simple yet so useful, thanks for the idea! |
| [23:23:09] | CCFL_Man2: | GreyFoxx: i see |
| [23:23:13] | GreyFoxx: | the ATSC/DVB tuner obviously not |
| [23:23:29] | GreyFoxx: | CCFL_Man2: that's pretty much how all of them are for the analog inputs |
| [23:23:37] | GreyFoxx: | jams: hehe yeah, handy :) |
| [23:23:54] | jams: | next is gdbcommands in the loop |
| [23:23:58] | CCFL_Man2: | GreyFoxx: ahh, i see |
| [23:24:24] | ** GreyFoxx is working on OpenBSD compiling for the FE and BE ** | |
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| [23:24:48] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't done it in a while so lotsof stuff has come in that wont compile as is :) |
| [23:25:15] | venger_: | wow just upgraded sid and mythfrontend kills the X server :( |
| [23:25:46] | CCFL_Man2: | hmm.. |
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| [23:27:21] | CCFL_Man2: | i'm not sure which card to get |
| [23:27:22] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm I really should install ccache on this thing :) |
| [23:27:23] | Der_Thomas: | directhex, hot sure if you mean TV in our out. I'm running a seperate FE/BE I have a PVR-150 on my BE and an nvidia fx 5200 on my FE |
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| [23:31:07] | directhex: | Der_Thomas, i meant tv-in, but if it's in another system, that won't be it |
| [23:31:14] | directhex: | Der_Thomas, just a lack of mhz, i think! |
| [23:32:07] | Der_Thomas: | man I always hear about people running FEs with 750MHz and this is 1GHz is it just the damn c3? |
| [23:35:33] | CCFL_Man2: | i was thinking about the airstar HD5000, it has hardware pid filtering, supports qam, and just has the rf input, think thats a good choice? |
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| [23:38:21] | directhex: | Der_Thomas, a c3 at 1ghz does slightly less than a pentium 3 at 500mhz |
| [23:39:35] | venger_: | i have an issue under watch recordings. in the lower right corner it shows a thumbnail of the recording and then one second later it starts playing a preview. the thumbnail is larger than the preview so on the bottom of the preview you see the bottom half of the original thumbnail. my guess is that this may be related to having had to scale the GUI size (compensating for overscan). Anyone seen this? |
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| [23:43:14] | Mythster: | hey guys is it possible to make it use multi key functions on myth... ie, make it so i press my menu + up to do something yet just regular up does something on its own |
| [23:43:31] | jams: | yeah /tmp/debug mode is now working. Thankfully mythweather is an instant segfault, so testing that it works is very easy. |
| [23:44:09] | Der_Thomas: | anyone have any idea how much resources I would gain by switching from gnome WM to XFCE or such? |
| [23:44:10] | Mythster: | hey i just got the pink screen of death on mythbuntu |
| [23:44:13] | Mythster: | what do i do? |
| [23:44:30] | directhex: | nvidia? |
| [23:44:32] | CCFL_Man2: | Der_Thomas: quite a bit |
| [23:44:34] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [23:44:35] | GreyFoxx: | Der_Thomas: Probably a lot |
| [23:44:42] | Mythster: | directhex, yes i have nvidia |
| [23:44:43] | GreyFoxx: | Der_Thomas: If only in ram savings |
| [23:44:50] | Mythster: | and the nvidia driver installed and operating |
| [23:44:59] | Der_Thomas: | just ram? not any CPU huh? |
| [23:45:24] | directhex: | Mythster, upgrade it. google for "envy nvidia" |
| [23:45:43] | GreyFoxx: | Der_Thomas: Both, but probably the most significan diff will be ram |
| [23:45:52] | GreyFoxx: | gnome and KDE and the like are pigs |
| [23:46:09] | GreyFoxx: | and unless a machine is a desktop machine where you ewant that stuff are not worth running a myth box |
| [23:46:26] | Der_Thomas: | right, I just have to figure out how to get an autologin without gdm/gnome |
| [23:46:44] | directhex: | you can use gdm but not gnome, you know |
| [23:46:45] | GreyFoxx: | Der_Thomas: I launch X directly frmo my init scripts |
| [23:46:54] | GreyFoxx: | X starts xfce, xfce launches mythfrontend :) |
| [23:47:15] | directhex: | given gdm isn't loading anything into memory that xfce isn't, i wouldn't worry |
| [23:48:19] | tank-man: | where in that is "irexec" launched? |
| [23:48:39] | Mythster: | directhex, do i have to alter my xorg after it installs? |
| [23:48:49] | Der_Thomas: | oh right, can I use gdm to launch xfce? |
| [23:48:49] | jams: | GreyFoxx- what made you switch from icewm? |
| [23:49:02] | GreyFoxx: | jams: laziness :) |
| [23:49:19] | directhex: | Mythster, for gdm? no. just log in as the user, and pick something that isn't gnome from the "session" menu |
| [23:49:20] | GreyFoxx: | When I reinstalled my boxes in Sept xfce was the default inslackware |
| [23:49:24] | GreyFoxx: | so I just left it :) |
| [23:49:34] | directhex: | Der_Thomas, sure |
| [23:49:35] | Mythster: | its set to autologin |
| [23:49:37] | GreyFoxx: | plus I've been using it for a while at work and it works well enough :) |
| [23:49:41] | Mythster: | and it uses xfce i think |
| [23:50:33] | jams: | no big deal, just thought you were a diehard icewm person. |
| [23:50:58] | GreyFoxx: | yeah I was. Not that I'm not anymore. I just was too lazy to change it :) |
| [23:51:11] | GreyFoxx: | haven't really looked into the memory usage differences |
| [23:53:01] | jams: | used to use windowmaker for myth, but the dock didn't look right for a mythbox. Windowmaker without the dock just isn't windowmaker. |
| [23:53:27] | GreyFoxx: | that was my favourtie part of windowmaker |
| [23:53:36] | GreyFoxx: | and all the third party applets |
| [23:53:38] | jams: | yep |
| [23:53:57] | jams: | sometimes i try something else, but always come back to windowmaker for desktop usage. |
| [23:54:34] | GreyFoxx: | once you get comfy it's hard to change |
| [23:54:38] | GreyFoxx: | It's the same with me and distros |
| [23:54:42] | _ben: | mmm |
| [23:54:57] | _ben: | i can understand that |
| [23:55:02] | GreyFoxx: | I try something different and always end up back in slackware where I'm most comfortable |
| [23:55:05] | _ben: | it was murder moving away from freebsd |
| [23:55:19] | GreyFoxx: | OpenBSD and Slackware, anything else is a fight to get me to use it |
| [23:55:57] | CCFL_Man2: | itunes prices ftl |
| [23:56:25] | GreyFoxx: | benc_: yeah. Sometimes it feels that way :) |
| [23:56:29] | GreyFoxx: | err _ben |
| [23:57:01] | _ben: | and fluxbox |
| [23:57:09] | _ben: | i'm a great lover of flux |
| [23:57:11] | jams: | i'm ok with most distro's only a handfull bug the crap out of me. |
| [23:57:22] | _ben: | ubuntu pisses me off |
| [23:57:28] | _ben: | all that sudo crap |
| [23:57:50] | GreyFoxx: | jams: the minute I go to do something and run up against the distros tools/way of doing it I get pissy and dump it if I can |
| [23:57:52] | jams: | those two distro's will remain nameless |
| [23:58:11] | jams: | hehehe |
| [23:58:16] | directhex: | it's cool to bash ubuntu. it's accurate to bash suse! |
| [23:58:21] | _ben: | i think i've found 3 ways to break sudo rendering the box unusable |
| [23:58:25] | _ben: | great stuff! |
| [23:59:03] | blackest: | this multiplex tuning is maddening |
| [23:59:28] | blackest: | has anyone got it working so i can check if i have done something wrong |
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