| Thursday, January 17th, 2008, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:09] | mzb: | ah |
| [00:00:51] | iamlindoro_: | sulan, are you running SVN, or .20.2? |
| [00:01:31] | sulan: | 0.20.2+fixes15346–0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1 |
| [00:01:42] | iamlindoro_: | riiiiiiiiiight |
| [00:01:43] | sulan: | the weekly build from the mythbuntu guys |
| [00:02:00] | _ben: | =) |
| [00:02:17] | iamlindoro_: | anyway, uPnP support is very much a work in progress, you will probably just have to wait it out |
| [00:02:30] | telee: | iamlindoro, have you ever used mediaportal? |
| [00:02:36] | iamlindoro_: | telee: Nope |
| [00:02:49] | telee: | oh, has anyone used mediaportal? |
| [00:02:59] | _ben: | nope |
| [00:03:08] | _ben: | bit of a strange place to ask about it |
| [00:03:16] | sulan: | okay... it's _very_ close now... |
| [00:03:34] | sulan: | I just found one show working (but most aren't) |
| [00:03:36] | telee: | i am questioning whether i should switch to windows and run that.... it seems like i will come across many problems w/ linux and myth and wont have the time in the future to fix it |
| [00:03:57] | ineti: | telee: use dvbviewer on windows |
| [00:04:04] | iamlindoro_: | telee: Have you even tried to set up myth? |
| [00:04:21] | telee: | iamlindoro, yeah my music plays... but my videos wont, they only play in vlc outside of myth |
| [00:04:34] | iamlindoro_: | And did you set up your video directory properly? |
| [00:04:37] | sulan: | telee: I think that you should try mediaportal first, 'cause then you won't have to downgrade when switching to myth in the future ;) |
| [00:04:56] | _ben: | telee: are you even doing the tv stuff? |
| [00:04:57] | ineti: | iamlindoro_: iam using linux ten years now and had a lot a whole day fun with setting up mythtv....exspecially with decryption of my pay tv provider :) |
| [00:05:00] | telee: | sulan, haha that makes sense |
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| [00:05:01] | iamlindoro_: | and scan them with the video manager? |
| [00:05:07] | telee: | _ben, as of now no... but in the future yes |
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| [00:05:18] | telee: | i have a feeling that will be even harder lol |
| [00:05:29] | _ben: | not really |
| [00:05:38] | _ben: | i got everything working in a few hours |
| [00:05:55] | ** iamlindoro_ realizes he doesn't really want to get into any troubleshooting right now... MePo it is! ** | |
| [00:06:01] | EnderTheThird: | are there any cheaper dual analog tuners than the PVR 500? |
| [00:06:08] | iamlindoro_: | EnderTheThird: Nope |
| [00:06:12] | ineti: | brrrr analog :) |
| [00:06:16] | _ben: | iamlindoro_: mm, good idea |
| [00:06:20] | _ben: | to bed and beyond! |
| [00:06:21] | telee: | _ben, are you pretty efficient with linux? |
| [00:06:22] | _ben: | nn |
| [00:06:22] | EnderTheThird: | what about the cheapest single tuner? |
| [00:06:27] | iamlindoro_: | _ben: I say let 'im use it |
| [00:06:49] | EnderTheThird: | sound off this bt878 is awful. gonna tell my cousin he'll need to shell out for a hardware tuner if he wants to record TV |
| [00:06:57] | iamlindoro_: | There are lots of cheap single tuners you wouldn't want... cheap frame grabbers, for example |
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| [00:07:09] | EnderTheThird: | eww, no frame grabbers, heh |
| [00:07:14] | iamlindoro_: | You can get a pvr-150 for $54 |
| [00:07:22] | iamlindoro_: | new |
| [00:07:23] | sulan: | well, thanks for the help guys! I'll keep trying the next couple of weeks |
| [00:07:41] | EnderTheThird: | hmmm, 500 is basically 2 150's anyway, isn't it? |
| [00:07:47] | directhex: | yes |
| [00:07:49] | iamlindoro_: | yes, more or less |
| [00:08:16] | EnderTheThird: | i'll tell him he can do that. it'd be ~$30 cheaper than the 500, and he has 3 open PCI slots anyway |
| [00:08:40] | fryfrog: | I think the PVR150 is the cheapest, you can usually pick up 3 for the price of a PVR500 |
| [00:08:40] | EnderTheThird: | thanks |
| [00:08:47] | iamlindoro_: | If he got the 500, it's still be 2 pci slots |
| [00:08:50] | iamlindoro_: | er it'd |
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| [00:08:54] | iamlindoro_: | so might as well get 2 150s |
| [00:09:07] | fryfrog: | iamlindoro_: why? my pvr500 only uses 1 slot |
| [00:09:11] | EnderTheThird: | iamlindoro_: how so? I have a 500 and it's only one. it's a long card, but not thick |
| [00:09:21] | EnderTheThird: | it doesn't hog up space for 2 |
| [00:09:31] | fryfrog: | unless you mean the doughter card/board thing? |
| [00:09:34] | jams: | hes thinking of the extra bracket |
| [00:09:47] | fryfrog: | which could potentially go into an unused (ie, no pci/isa/pci-e) slot |
| [00:09:49] | EnderTheThird: | ahhh, for the composite in and all that |
| [00:09:53] | EnderTheThird: | got ya |
| [00:09:57] | iamlindoro_: | yes, the bracket |
| [00:10:00] | fryfrog: | for the *extra* composite in and all that |
| [00:10:20] | fryfrog: | most computers i've worked on have one or two pci "holes" with nothing under neath them |
| [00:10:21] | EnderTheThird: | heh, that too. can't imagine using that many video in's anyway. |
| [00:10:47] | fryfrog: | still, 2x PVR150 is cheaper than 1x PVR500 :) |
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| [00:11:26] | fryfrog: | he could always do the option that keeps making you pay, firewire stb :) |
| [00:11:30] | iamlindoro_: | not to mention no flaky second tuner on the 150 |
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| [00:11:51] | iamlindoro_: | firewire stb still wipes the floor with PVR-anything |
| [00:12:06] | EnderTheThird: | son of a..... the sound coming straight through the internal audio cable is fine. it's the recording that's garbling up the sound |
| [00:12:12] | iamlindoro_: | assuming you're lucky enough to get your channels via firewire, of course |
| [00:12:46] | EnderTheThird: | eh, still tinny. not worth the trouble. |
| [00:15:10] | mzb: | I have a recording with a "blip" in it (in an ad break strangley enough!), but when I try to do a lossless transcode to cut the ads out, it fails. What can I do? |
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| [00:16:09] | mzb: | I can see the position in the stream that this occurs |
| [00:16:13] | jduggan: | grr |
| [00:16:34] | mzb: | seems like the best way is to cut it up with avidemux and then try again |
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| [00:23:06] | fryfrog: | i don't spose anyone saves post secret, do they? |
| [00:24:32] | iamlindoro_: | mzb: Does it fail immediately with Error 232? |
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| [00:25:20] | iamlindoro_: | mzb, I run into this one on every single one of my firewire recordings, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2077 |
| [00:25:30] | iamlindoro_: | if it sounds like the same, definitely let me know how you work around it |
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| [00:29:13] | mzb: | iamlindoro: yes, error 232 but it get's a fair way into it before it happens |
| [00:30:52] | iamlindoro_: | mzb, hmm, okay, sounds like it's probably different then.. I believ 232 is "Unknown error." |
| [00:30:55] | iamlindoro_: | er believe |
| [00:37:46] | mzb: | I've made a copy of the recording, loaded it into avidemux and cut the bad part out (hopefully there's only one). It's currently saving back to the server (albeit slowly for some reason .... not to worry;) |
| [00:38:08] | mzb: | then I'll reindex it (I think) and try editing "normally" |
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| [00:42:22] | fryfrog: | whew, thank god for google cache! |
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| [00:43:05] | EnderTheThird: | thank god or google? not sure there's really a difference, but i'm curious if it was a typo :-P |
| [00:45:32] | fryfrog: | good poin! |
| [00:45:34] | fryfrog: | point! |
| [00:45:42] | fryfrog: | thank google for google cash :) |
| [00:45:45] | fryfrog: | er |
| [00:45:47] | fryfrog: | cache :) |
| [00:46:13] | EnderTheThird: | google cash would be even better |
| [00:46:19] | EnderTheThird: | i'd love some google cash |
| [00:46:28] | fryfrog: | its called adsesne! |
| [00:46:34] | fryfrog: | i earned like $100 in ... 1.5 years :) |
| [00:46:48] | EnderTheThird: | ha, off what? |
| [00:46:53] | xris: | fryfrog: that's about the speed I earn it |
| [00:46:56] | fryfrog: | adsense on fryfrog.com :) |
| [00:47:03] | xris: | slower now that I took down my trac stuff for nuvexport |
| [00:47:12] | fryfrog: | the adsense on *gallerys* site is awesome though |
| [00:47:19] | fryfrog: | you just need a high traffic site really :) |
| [00:47:30] | EnderTheThird: | there, i'll get you a few more clickies, heh |
| [00:47:40] | fryfrog: | haha |
| [00:47:46] | fryfrog: | i block ads in my browser :) |
| [00:47:56] | EnderTheThird: | nice site. simple. |
| [00:48:05] | fryfrog: | a little broken too :( |
| [00:48:10] | fryfrog: | and slow |
| [00:48:10] | EnderTheThird: | heh |
| [00:48:14] | fryfrog: | but at least pics are working again |
| [00:48:20] | EnderTheThird: | it did feel slow, but my connection at work blows |
| [00:48:29] | fryfrog: | it comes from my home cable modem |
| [00:48:34] | EnderTheThird: | every time i start up a blog, i always get too busy to post to the damned thing |
| [00:48:46] | EnderTheThird: | oooh, well that's not too great for hosting pictures, haha |
| [00:48:59] | fryfrog: | hehe |
| [00:49:05] | fryfrog: | i don't really think of fryfrog.com as a blog |
| [00:49:12] | fryfrog: | i just use wordpress to do the framework |
| [00:49:22] | EnderTheThird: | even so, a site in general |
| [00:49:25] | fryfrog: | and i hardly ever up date it :) |
| [00:49:27] | fryfrog: | yeah |
| [00:49:45] | fryfrog: | all i really have that is interesting to other people (mainly family) is pictures |
| [00:50:11] | EnderTheThird: | my site is called "Verbatio", heh |
| [00:50:21] | fryfrog: | .com? |
| [00:50:24] | EnderTheThird: | verbal fellatio, in case you're not getting the reference |
| [00:50:31] | fryfrog: | sfw? |
| [00:50:33] | EnderTheThird: | no, it's on blogger. haven't posted since the initial |
| [00:50:38] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [00:50:44] | fryfrog: | blogspot or? |
| [00:50:46] | EnderTheThird: | verbatio.blogger.com, i believe. it's sfw |
| [00:51:07] | EnderTheThird: | nope, it's blogspot, my bad |
| [00:51:34] | fryfrog: | my work proxy servers are lame |
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| [00:51:43] | fryfrog: | they take like 10 minutes to fail on a dns lookup that doesn't exist |
| [00:51:49] | fryfrog: | i have to kill firefox :( |
| [00:51:58] | EnderTheThird: | ha, my bad |
| [00:52:11] | fryfrog: | no worries, only had gmail open |
| [00:52:13] | fryfrog: | so no loss |
| [00:52:30] | fryfrog: | it just keeps synergy from working too, so i can't evne go to my linux box while i wait :p |
| [00:52:39] | EnderTheThird: | haha, how awesome am i! #1 result in google for "verbatio" |
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| [00:52:49] | EnderTheThird: | i can't believe i'm the only one to have used that word |
| [00:52:59] | fryfrog: | to cool for school :) |
| [00:53:09] | fryfrog: | all the google results for fryfrog are me :) |
| [00:53:37] | EnderTheThird: | granted i "invented" the word, but given the Internet, i figured there'd be a few results for it out there. came up with it when people were always kissing ass at work, giving "verbatio", so to speak |
| [00:54:23] | fryfrog: | you really don't have many posts to it :) |
| [00:54:29] | EnderTheThird: | i've noticed |
| [00:54:32] | EnderTheThird: | lol |
| [00:54:48] | EnderTheThird: | i changed the name from Ubuntu Toledo and deleted the few posts i did have. wanted to make it more open to other posts |
| [00:54:58] | EnderTheThird: | working on one now about Evolution & Religion |
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| [00:56:06] | EnderTheThird: | using a loose interpretation of "working" of course |
| [00:56:33] | fryfrog: | even some links still called "edit me" :p |
| [00:56:50] | fryfrog: | whew, i was worried i'd missed a sunday of post secret for my personal archive |
| [00:56:51] | EnderTheThird: | go to hell, lol |
| [00:57:01] | fryfrog: | would be the first in more than a year or so i think |
| [00:57:23] | EnderTheThird: | no idea what post secret is |
| [00:57:31] | fryfrog: | seriously? |
| [00:57:39] | fryfrog: | http://postsecret.blogspot.com |
| [00:57:59] | fryfrog: | i'd say it is probably the most moving thing ever to appear on the internet, the books are good too. |
| [00:59:01] | EnderTheThird: | some are moving, others are so very very hilarious |
| [00:59:12] | fryfrog: | "moving" doesn't have to be sad :) |
| [00:59:19] | fryfrog: | humour is also moving |
| [00:59:24] | EnderTheThird: | true |
| [00:59:27] | fryfrog: | do you get the idea of the site? |
| [00:59:45] | EnderTheThird: | yeah |
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| [01:00:09] | mzb: | iamlindoro: now doing: $ mythcommflag --rebuild -f /myth/video/recordings/2003_20080116172400.mpg |
| [01:00:48] | mzb: | done |
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| [01:01:18] | fryfrog: | new secrets every sunday, i like em :) |
| [01:01:26] | mzb: | hmm ... that doesn't seem right |
| [01:01:30] | EnderTheThird: | i'm debating when to add adsense to my site. when/if i start posting, i'd like to send the link to some people, but don't want to appear greedy. i read somewhere that it's better to always have them (adsense is everywhere anyway) than to add them after a site is popular |
| [01:01:48] | Aval0n: | anyone gotten streaming working for mythweb? |
| [01:01:54] | Aval0n: | the asx streaming? |
| [01:02:03] | fryfrog: | i think adsense kind of differs from other advertising, because you can make it useful and unobtrusive |
| [01:02:19] | xris: | it's not exactly streaming... but works fine if you turn off auth. |
| [01:02:19] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: mine works, but i think it's at a very high bitrate cause it only works over LAN |
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| [01:02:52] | Aval0n: | xris: I'll give it a shot |
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| [01:03:13] | Aval0n: | xris: does it matter that I run mythweb on port 8080? |
| [01:03:25] | Esotericisms: | I have a question, whats the general feeling and thought behind the fact that all tv will be going digital in the united states in feb 09 and that tv tuner cards and cable ready tv's will be obsolete, effectively making mythtv useless unless you use ir blaster and a settop box?? Has Mythtv began to address this? |
| [01:03:37] | xris: | Aval0n: you need to configure the streaming port in mythweb's settings, yes |
| [01:03:38] | mzb: | $ mythcommflag --clearcutlist -f /myth/video/recordings/2003_20080116172400.mpg |
| [01:03:53] | xris: | Aval0n: you using svn trunk, right? did you read the section about streaming at the top of mythweb.conf.apache? |
| [01:03:55] | Aval0n: | that big red box that asks about streaming port I just put 8080? |
| [01:04:09] | Aval0n: | I did not xris |
| [01:04:12] | Aval0n: | but I am using trunkl |
| [01:04:15] | Aval0n: | trunk* |
| [01:04:24] | Aval0n: | reading it now |
| [01:04:47] | Aval0n: | I don't see it |
| [01:04:51] | EnderTheThird: | Esotericisms: that change is only for OTA broadcasts. analog via cable is still fine |
| [01:04:53] | Aval0n: | this trunk is about a month old though |
| [01:05:00] | mzb: | $ mythcommflag -f /myth/video/recordings/2003_20080116172400.mpg |
| [01:05:19] | Aval0n: | how is commercial flagging handled by default? |
| [01:05:27] | Aval0n: | as soon as the recording is finished it does it? |
| [01:05:53] | mzb: | not necessarily |
| [01:07:17] | mzb: | by default, yes (iirc) |
| [01:07:48] | xris: | Aval0n: bring just that one file up to date |
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| [01:08:10] | Aval0n: | odd I get rid of auth in there |
| [01:08:13] | Aval0n: | comment it out |
| [01:08:14] | xris: | though the last change on mythweb.conf.apache was in september |
| [01:08:17] | Aval0n: | and it still gives me user/pass box |
| [01:08:23] | Aval0n: | pl |
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| [01:08:25] | Aval0n: | ok |
| [01:08:36] | xris: | Aval0n: that's a sample file... you need to put it into your apache config to get it to work |
| [01:08:55] | ** xris recommends more reading like the README and INSTALL files ** | |
| [01:09:05] | wireddd: | I wish I could get a box in a data center somewhere with a tuner and cable tv |
| [01:09:13] | Aval0n: | well |
| [01:09:18] | Aval0n: | its working right now techincally |
| [01:09:21] | xris: | if you just upgraded your mythweb from .20 without re-examining the config files, you're missing out on a lot of changes. |
| [01:09:21] | Aval0n: | I need it not to work :P |
| [01:09:38] | Aval0n: | I did a fresh compile of the plugins trunk |
| [01:09:45] | Aval0n: | I removed the ubuntu packages prior |
| [01:10:29] | xris: | then mythweb shouldn't work at all.... ubuntu packages probably didn't remove the mythweb apache config stuff they use |
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| [01:12:19] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [01:12:39] | psm321: | what table are recording schedules kept in? |
| [01:12:54] | fryfrog: | "record" i believe |
| [01:13:21] | xris: | psm321: several, but record is the main one |
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| [01:15:21] | Aval0n: | xris I took out the .htaccess and now I get you don't have permission to access /mythweb/ on this server. |
| [01:16:02] | Aval0n: | the dir perms are set |
| [01:16:06] | Aval0n: | correctly |
| [01:16:10] | xris: | Aval0n: read INSTALL |
| [01:16:42] | xris: | took me a long time to write that — it will lay out the instructions a lot clearer than I can off the top of my head |
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| [01:17:39] | Aval0n: | I actually installed with that doc |
| [01:17:51] | Aval0n: | the chgrp -R and g+rw is set already |
| [01:18:03] | Der_Thomas: | Anyyone know how to tell if myth is ACTUALLY using XvMC? |
| [01:18:27] | directhex: | frontend STDOUT output |
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| [01:19:04] | Der_Thomas: | directhex, was that to my question? What woud it say? |
| [01:19:14] | telee: | if i rip a dvd to my hardrive about on average how much space should it take up ? |
| [01:19:16] | xris: | Aval0n: if you completely followed those instructions, mythweb would work. |
| [01:19:18] | psm321: | xris: what others? |
| [01:19:19] | Aval0n: | weird |
| [01:19:20] | Aval0n: | root@htpc:/var/www# svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-## . . . gins/mythweb |
| [01:19:20] | Aval0n: | svn: URL 'http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-## . . . ins/mythweb' is not properly URI-encoded |
| [01:19:26] | xris: | psm321: huh? |
| [01:19:43] | psm321: | <xris> psm321: several, but record is the main one |
| [01:19:48] | psm321: | (sorry for the delay) |
| [01:20:00] | xris: | Aval0n: um, yeah.. sample URL.. the ## means you should put the number of the fixes branch you want to use. |
| [01:20:24] | xris: | psm321: not sure.. I'd have to check the code, and should do that while on the clock |
| [01:20:34] | psm321: | ok sorry |
| [01:21:09] | psm321: | and thanks... record seems to have been good enough for what i wanted |
| [01:21:19] | Aval0n: | oh duh |
| [01:21:34] | jams: | xris- how is the flooring business working out? |
| [01:22:13] | Aval0n: | I just had to restart apache |
| [01:22:24] | xris: | jams: not too bad.. I have a mod_perl headache today, though |
| [01:22:45] | xris: | Aval0n: and that URL isn't for svn trunk, either.. |
| [01:24:19] | Aval0n: | I set force http stream and set port to 8080, auth is off and it still won't stream |
| [01:24:29] | Aval0n: | that's ok I'll fugire it out later |
| [01:24:35] | Aval0n: | I dont' wanna bug you with it all night |
| [01:24:50] | xris: | Aval0n: the asx file is just an xml text file with a different URL in it.. open it up and plug that URL directly into your browser |
| [01:25:15] | xris: | that's why I say that asx isn't really streaming... it's just telling the media player where to download the file itself rather than using the browser. |
| [01:25:26] | Aval0n: | i get file not found error |
| [01:25:32] | xris: | what's the URL? |
| [01:25:56] | Aval0n: | join #xris real quick |
| [01:26:16] | xris: | Aval0n: or just pm it to me |
| [01:26:19] | Aval0n: | since I cant pm you |
| [01:26:38] | xris: | need to register your nick. |
| [01:26:58] | Aval0n: | I can't remember the password |
| [01:27:49] | Aval0n: | if a nick hasn't been idented in a long time can the pass be reset? |
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| [01:28:00] | Aval0n: | http://inpherno.com:8080/mythweb |
| [01:28:01] | xris: | I think it just gets erased so it can be re-registered |
| [01:28:11] | Aval0n: | ahh |
| [01:28:17] | xris: | Aval0n: I want the URL to the media file, not to the root of your mythweb box |
| [01:28:31] | xris: | the one generating the 404 |
| [01:28:42] | Aval0n: | not for me |
| [01:28:50] | Aval0n: | oh |
| [01:28:50] | Aval0n: | sorry |
| [01:28:51] | Aval0n: | sec |
| [01:29:07] | Aval0n: | myth://192.168.0.140:6543/3101_20080114200000.mpg |
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| [01:31:29] | Aval0n: | I don't have 6543 forwarded, but since I'm internal to the network it should work. |
| [01:32:04] | clever: | but does your system know how to open myth:// url's? |
| [01:32:20] | jhulst: | Aval0n: that doesn't look correct for an ASX stream |
| [01:32:57] | jduggan: | should i be correcting overscan in my xorg.conf or within mythfrontend? |
| [01:33:07] | xris: | Aval0n: you're running windows and haven't tweaked the mythweb settings to not send myth:// URLs |
| [01:33:20] | clever: | jduggan: both would work |
| [01:33:29] | EnderTheThird: | fryfrog: There you go. A new post. Finally. |
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| [01:33:53] | Aval0n: | hmm ok |
| [01:35:15] | fryfrog: | EnderTheThird: ahahah :) |
| [01:35:41] | psm321: | any ideas on what could cause a tuner to have garbled (just a few characters once in a while) captions on a recording but work fine in livetv? (this only happens on my new pvr-500 tuners, my old pvr-350 and bttv card are fine) |
| [01:35:53] | rkroll: | Hi all – I have a question about adding channels to my lineup @ schedules direct. When I've added the channels on the SD web site, how do I get Myth to put them in my listings web page? I've rerun mythfilldatabase but the new channels to not appear. |
| [01:36:43] | EnderTheThird: | fryfrog: it's a doozie though. might need to make yourself a sandwich before you bite into that one |
| [01:36:47] | psm321: | i also get some really weird frame flicker on the new tuners on some channels/times... where it shows like the bottom half of a different frame for a bit |
| [01:36:51] | psm321: | on top |
| [01:37:40] | jduggan: | clever: can you adcise how i should reduce it in the xorg.conf, its ever so slightly over, both in width and height (my xorg.conf is here http://sigkill.noffle.net/~jduggan/xorg.conf ) |
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| [01:37:55] | clever: | jduggan: i dont know how to do it with xorg.conf itself |
| [01:38:03] | clever: | jduggan: my nvidia defaulted to underscaning |
| [01:38:27] | clever: | jduggan: but there are settings in mythfrontend to just make a smaller window which doesnt go to the edges of the screen |
| [01:38:34] | Der_Thomas: | anyone around able to help me out diagnosing a problem I have with a new video card? |
| [01:38:41] | clever: | jduggan: which version are you using? |
| [01:39:00] | Der_Thomas: | I have a VIA EPIA-M with a crappy onboard Unichrome video card |
| [01:39:20] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: What's the problem? |
| [01:39:52] | Der_Thomas: | I've been limping along with the Unichrome, but I finally replaced it with a Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 |
| [01:40:16] | Der_Thomas: | now with that new card, I can watch live TV ok, but my recorded shows studder VERY bad |
| [01:40:43] | Der_Thomas: | playing recorded video uses ~50% CPU on mythfronend and ~50% cpu on X |
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| [01:41:10] | EnderTheThird: | fryfrog: you inspired me. i even updated the links! |
| [01:41:19] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: Do you have the proprietary drivers installed? |
| [01:41:34] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: So you're CPU is maxed? |
| [01:41:34] | Der_Thomas: | Yes I'm using the 'nvidia' driver |
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| [01:41:44] | jhulst: | s/you're/your |
| [01:41:57] | Der_Thomas: | jhulst – yep 100%cpu |
| [01:42:13] | jduggan: | clever: version of nvidia driver? |
| [01:42:16] | Der_Thomas: | I only had about 20% cpu with my Unichrome |
| [01:42:19] | clever: | jduggan: the mythtv version |
| [01:42:28] | jduggan: | clever: whichever is in mythbuntu |
| [01:42:32] | clever: | ah |
| [01:42:42] | clever: | jduggan: probly not that recent then |
| [01:42:50] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: It worked with your old card? What CPU do you have? Are you playing HD or SD? |
| [01:42:56] | clever: | jduggan: under the appearance settings you can set a width/height and a x/y offset |
| [01:43:08] | jduggan: | clever: i tried that, it made it really small |
| [01:43:15] | clever: | jduggan: when they are set just right youll have a smaller window which is centered in your viewable screen |
| [01:43:16] | jduggan: | width height should be 1280x720 ? |
| [01:43:26] | jduggan: | (or just a bit smaller ) |
| [01:43:26] | clever: | jduggan: near 1280x720 |
| [01:43:39] | jduggan: | it didnt look right for me |
| [01:43:42] | clever: | jduggan: yeah smaller, based on how much your cuting off both sides |
| [01:43:53] | Der_Thomas: | Yes it worked with the Unichrome with only about 20% cpu, I have a via EPIA-M with a C3 1GHz, I'm playing SDTV |
| [01:44:06] | clever: | jduggan: theres a new plugin to help setting it but its probly not in your version yet |
| [01:44:36] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: When you play live tv, what's your cpu usage? It's odd that live tv works but recorded doesn't, normally it's the other way around |
| [01:44:50] | jduggan: | clever: yea, saw that, juski's been working on that iirc ? |
| [01:44:56] | clever: | i think so |
| [01:45:03] | clever: | one of the ju* names |
| [01:45:21] | jduggan: | hehe |
| [01:45:29] | jduggan: | ok i shall mess with the offsets |
| [01:45:31] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: If you play the recorded files outside of myth, do they play okay? |
| [01:47:02] | clever: | weee |
| [01:47:02] | Der_Thomas: | jhulst: playing live TV it is ~65% CPU mythfrontend 8%cpu X |
| [01:47:03] | clever: | segfault |
| [01:47:03] | skd5aner: | Hello :) |
| [01:47:24] | clever: | and again i forgot the ulimit! |
| [01:48:11] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: Do you have the video's transcoded after recording them? |
| [01:48:15] | jhulst: | skd5aner: Hi |
| [01:48:28] | Der_Thomas: | Yeah, they are transcoded. |
| [01:48:35] | skd5aner: | I haven't used IRC for about 12 years... |
| [01:49:02] | Der_Thomas: | I don't have an quick way to test if playing the SAME videos outside of myth works |
| [01:49:14] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: What do you transcode them to |
| [01:49:23] | skd5aner: | haha, but – figured I'd start it back up again to hang around the myth channel |
| [01:49:44] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: Is your backend on seperte machine? |
| [01:49:53] | jhulst: | s/seperte/seperate |
| [01:51:44] | Der_Thomas: | jhulst, I xcode to mpeg4 and yes my BE is seperate from my FE |
| [01:52:43] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: Well, my guess is that the difference in video formats is causing the problem, I have no frame of reference though in telling you whether your machine should be able to play mpeg4, perhaps you need to enable xvmc |
| [01:53:50] | Der_Thomas: | Yeah I tried XvMC. I used it on my Unichrome, but I'm not sure if I have it working on my nvidia. Do you know if there is a way to tell for sure if Myth is using XvMC? |
| [01:53:52] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: According to the wiki, xvmc doesn't work with mpeg4 |
| [01:54:10] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: It should say in the output from mythfrontend |
| [01:55:10] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: unichrome chips work with mpeg4, but not nvidia, my guess is that that is your problem, when you playback live tv you are doing mpeg2, which requires less cpu to decode I believe |
| [01:55:29] | Der_Thomas: | hmm OK |
| [01:55:33] | Der_Thomas: | that makes sense |
| [01:55:55] | Der_Thomas: | in the mythfronend output are you talking about a log output or to the terminal? |
| [01:56:06] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: terminal |
| [01:56:18] | Der_Thomas: | OK, yeah I don't get very much information there |
| [01:56:39] | Der_Thomas: | I'll look to see if I can put it into verbose moode |
| [01:56:47] | Der_Thomas: | s/moode/mode |
| [01:56:54] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: pastebin it, I'll take a look if you want |
| [01:57:53] | Aval0n: | guys |
| [01:58:04] | Aval0n: | is there a way to toggle AC3 passthru on and off with a remote button? |
| [01:59:09] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: not sure. but just curious, why would you need to? |
| [01:59:11] | Der_Thomas: | http://pastebin.ca/858006 |
| [01:59:58] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: You have to start playing a video first though |
| [01:59:58] | clever: | Aval0n: irexec can probly be abused to do that |
| [02:00:11] | clever: | Aval0n: it will run a command when you push a button |
| [02:00:39] | clever: | Aval0n: im using it to start mythfrontend when i hit the power button |
| [02:01:13] | Aval0n: | yeah but I don't know a command for ac3 |
| [02:01:24] | Aval0n: | I see a toggle in menu but I don't know if there is a command line lvl for it |
| [02:01:42] | clever: | make a bash script |
| [02:01:45] | Aval0n: | EnderTheThird: because most of the time my wife watches TV via HDMI to the TV which runs the 2 channel audio |
| [02:01:55] | clever: | if X exists delete it and shut the passthru off |
| [02:01:56] | Aval0n: | so with AC3 on you hear scrambling |
| [02:02:00] | clever: | if X doesnt exist make it and turn it on |
| [02:02:02] | Aval0n: | so I have to turn it off |
| [02:02:21] | Aval0n: | but if I wanna get dolby digital via surround on my videos I have to toggle it on |
| [02:03:00] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: i think you can get around that. i have all of my audio going through SPDIF Optical, and it will do both dobly digital and regular stereo when it's SD cable |
| [02:03:03] | Der_Thomas: | jhulst: http://pastebin.ca/858011 |
| [02:03:23] | Aval0n: | not working for me |
| [02:03:45] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: 2008-01–16 21:00:16.957 VideoOutputXv: XvMCTex: Init failed |
| [02:03:52] | Aval0n: | for mythtv jump points... which is the one that gets me to my videos page that shows the icons of the ones I put on |
| [02:04:11] | Aval0n: | Video Listings, MythVideo, or Video Browser |
| [02:04:23] | Der_Thomas: | Yeah I just saw that too |
| [02:04:29] | Der_Thomas: | WTF? |
| [02:04:53] | EnderTheThird: | what i did was just create a ~/.asoundrc file and put one line in it: "pcm.~default spdif" |
| [02:04:55] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: so no xvmc, I guess I would turn off the transcode, maybe decrease your resolution |
| [02:05:11] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: oops, that's "pcm.!default spdif" sorry |
| [02:05:20] | Aval0n: | and mythtv will look at that? |
| [02:05:42] | Aval0n: | that seems too easy :) |
| [02:05:46] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: yep. all my gnome/xfce sounds come through too |
| [02:05:57] | Aval0n: | no kidding |
| [02:05:57] | EnderTheThird: | eh, worth a shot. you'll probably need to restart Alsa and/or X for it to take effect |
| [02:06:00] | Aval0n: | I'll give that a shot |
| [02:06:01] | Aval0n: | tyvm |
| [02:06:16] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: no prob. but only tyvm if it works for you, heh |
| [02:06:49] | Aval0n: | so that file mythtv just knows to look for it by default? |
| [02:06:59] | Der_Thomas: | jhulst: how do you decrease your res? and do you have any ideas on how to get XvMC to work? The Wiki is kind of light here |
| [02:07:13] | EnderTheThird: | i think ALSA looks at it, and Myth uses ALSA, so... |
| [02:07:14] | Aval0n: | xris: you there? |
| [02:07:19] | Aval0n: | ahh excellent |
| [02:07:26] | xris: | ? |
| [02:07:32] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: The wiki says that id doesn't work for mpeg4, so that doesn't do much, I would guess that if you tried playing an mpeg2 file it'd be okay |
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| [02:07:44] | killaz: | hey hey mythtv-users |
| [02:07:52] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: What distro are you using? You can always edit your xorg.conf |
| [02:08:10] | Der_Thomas: | Oh – I'm using ubuntu on my FE |
| [02:08:29] | Aval0n: | hey under mythweb for jump points, there are serveral options. I want a jump point to the screen with all the videos that i've put on, but I see.. MythVideo, Video listings, Video Browser |
| [02:08:35] | Aval0n: | do you know which is what I require? |
| [02:08:39] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: I'm not sure what the gui is, I would just edit the xorg.conf |
| [02:08:39] | killaz: | I was wondering if I can use mythtv as a DLNA MediaServer for the PS3? |
| [02:08:47] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" should restart alsa for you and get that working. let me know if it works |
| [02:09:10] | Aval0n: | ok my wife's show is over in a few |
| [02:09:11] | Der_Thomas: | screen res is set to 800x480, you think I need to go lower? |
| [02:09:14] | Aval0n: | I'll try then |
| [02:09:22] | EnderTheThird: | rock on |
| [02:09:25] | Aval0n: | thnx :) |
| [02:09:42] | xris: | Aval0n: sounds like you're in the mythvideo section, not the tv section |
| [02:09:45] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: According to your log, it's 1024x768 |
| [02:09:50] | xris: | click on tv and then you get a different submenu |
| [02:09:54] | Aval0n: | I don't want tv recordings |
| [02:10:09] | Aval0n: | I'm in the mythweb keybindings section |
| [02:10:13] | Aval0n: | setting up jump points |
| [02:10:20] | Aval0n: | I have them all setup except videos |
| [02:10:25] | Aval0n: | I don't want my TV recordings |
| [02:10:35] | Aval0n: | I want the videos |
| [02:10:39] | Aval0n: | like when I backup my dvds |
| [02:10:44] | Der_Thomas: | hmm, well I using twinview and my desktop is 1024x768 but my TV out shoudl be 800x480 |
| [02:10:52] | xris: | Aval0n: that's jump points for the frontend... mythweb doesn't define those, it just pulls the list of defined jump points from the db |
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| [02:11:23] | Aval0n: | but you can enter them in mythweb... |
| [02:11:26] | Der_Thomas: | wiat check that here is th line: |
| [02:11:28] | Der_Thomas: | Option "MetaModes" "800x480,768x480" |
| [02:11:38] | Aval0n: | I already have this stuff setup in my lircrc |
| [02:11:44] | Aval0n: | as F1,F2 and so on |
| [02:11:51] | xris: | Aval0n: yes. but mythweb doesn't know what *possible* jump points there are, just the ones that actually exist in the db. |
| [02:12:03] | jhulst: | Der_Thomas: I would try decreasing your monitor too, I'm not sure, it probably still decodes it at 1024x768 |
| [02:12:15] | Der_Thomas: | strange |
| [02:12:20] | Der_Thomas: | OK, well thanks for your help |
| [02:12:26] | Aval0n: | ok... |
| [02:12:50] | Aval0n: | I just want to make F3 jump to those videos |
| [02:13:01] | Aval0n: | and mythweb shows 3 things that look like what I'm looking for... |
| [02:13:17] | Aval0n: | I just dont know which one is right |
| [02:14:21] | EnderTheThird: | http://www.rd.com/content/caught-cheating-on-tests/ teachers cheating for students. Where was this when I was in high school? Better yet, where is this now in college? |
| [02:14:30] | Aval0n: | Program Finder F1 |
| [02:14:30] | xris: | Aval0n: sorry. I don't really use the frontend, so I don't have a clue |
| [02:14:40] | Aval0n: | hm ok |
| [02:14:57] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: just map an F-key to each one and find out when you're in the FE :) |
| [02:16:12] | Aval0n: | haha |
| [02:16:14] | Aval0n: | k |
| [02:16:28] | killaz: | can nobody answer my above question? Because before my pc broke down and I brought a PS3 I was a huge MythTV fan, but since I have a PS# another criteria/feature is added to my list... |
| [02:17:00] | killaz: | MythTV has to be able to strean to the PS3... |
| [02:17:01] | EnderTheThird: | killaz: i have 0 ps3 experience cause i don't have one. sorry |
| [02:17:15] | tjcarter: | killaz: it should be possible. |
| [02:17:29] | tjcarter: | It won't have cutlists and you can't schedule and whatnot |
| [02:17:33] | tjcarter: | but it should be possible. |
| [02:17:55] | Aval0n: | EnderTheThird: so I'll go toggle AC3 passthrough on in mythfe settings real quick |
| [02:17:56] | Aval0n: | and test |
| [02:18:49] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: cool. let me know how it goes. i have AC3 and DTS passthru enabled on mine |
| [02:18:51] | Aval0n: | all my jump poins work :) |
| [02:18:55] | EnderTheThird: | works like a champ |
| [02:19:00] | Aval0n: | ok trying |
| [02:19:01] | Aval0n: | sec |
| [02:19:04] | killaz: | tjcarter: I just want the PS3 to find it as a streaming server.. but I read on a couple of post/blogs that mythTV can not transcode realtime, meaning that some codec can not be played on the PS3. is this correct? |
| [02:19:37] | clever: | im bored and having trouble catching this bug in action |
| [02:19:50] | clever: | so ive made a script using the network control to do the same thing over and over |
| [02:19:58] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [02:19:59] | Aval0n: | no sound |
| [02:20:12] | Aval0n: | but not the buzzing I normally would hear |
| [02:20:20] | EnderTheThird: | killaz: while not ideal, if you just wanted it for S's and G's, you chould just do .asx streaming from MythWeb (SVN) |
| [02:20:32] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: getting any sound from non-Myth? |
| [02:20:44] | jduggan: | clever: http://sigkill.noffle.net/~jduggan/myth.jpg <-thats my x with the adjustments, as you can see ive reduced teh Y offset to -1600 (maximum it will go) but i cant shift the window up the scren anymore (it literally needs to go up as far as the bottom of teh text in teh 'application' launcher button – any ideas? |
| [02:21:14] | Aval0n: | like from another input on the tv? |
| [02:21:22] | clever: | jduggan: i dont think your suposed to use negative numbers there |
| [02:21:34] | jduggan: | clever: well how can i shift the image UP teh screen? |
| [02:21:39] | tjcarter: | killaz: that is probable, yes |
| [02:21:42] | Aval0n: | my other inputs give audio yes... |
| [02:21:44] | clever: | jduggan: a y offset of 0 would put the window right at the top edge |
| [02:21:54] | clever: | jduggan: y at 1 would be 1 pixel down from the top edge |
| [02:22:00] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: no, just play an mp3 from gnome of xfce, whatever your DE is |
| [02:22:03] | jduggan: | clever: ok let me recheck this |
| [02:22:09] | Aval0n: | oh |
| [02:22:12] | tjcarter: | MPEG-2 and various MPEG-4 codecs should work |
| [02:22:14] | Aval0n: | hmmm |
| [02:22:18] | Aval0n: | I have no kb/mouse on this |
| [02:22:26] | Aval0n: | I'll use mpg123 via command line |
| [02:22:26] | Aval0n: | sec |
| [02:22:53] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: cause you might have something muted in gnome |
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| [02:23:27] | Aval0n: | I don't have spdif muted |
| [02:23:29] | Aval0n: | I know for sure |
| [02:23:33] | Aval0n: | cause it works to my reciever |
| [02:23:51] | Aval0n: | and normally all my gnome sfx work |
| [02:24:06] | Aval0n: | but I can hear the mp3 I'm playing |
| [02:24:09] | Aval0n: | via ssh |
| [02:24:16] | jduggan: | clever: this isnt the case – because ive reduced teh height, even at 0 its shifted down |
| [02:24:36] | clever: | jduggan: height affects where the bottom edge is i beleive |
| [02:25:04] | Aval0n: | EnderTheThird: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21 2008-01–16 19:06 .asoundrc |
| [02:25:15] | clever: | with the height at 0 it would use the full screen height |
| [02:25:20] | Aval0n: | root@htpc:/home/mythtv# more .asoundrc |
| [02:25:20] | Aval0n: | "pcm.!default spdif" |
| [02:25:59] | jduggan: | clever: so are you saying the top and the left side of the tv are rigid? |
| [02:26:04] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: one sec |
| [02:26:17] | clever: | jduggan: the top and left are set by the xy offsets |
| [02:26:24] | Aval0n: | ok |
| [02:26:26] | clever: | jduggan: the bottom and right are controled by both |
| [02:26:32] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: for me, it's -rw-r--r-- 1 phil phil 19 2007-12–04 17:00 .asoundrc |
| [02:26:48] | Aval0n: | both should be fine |
| [02:26:54] | Aval0n: | both r for everone |
| [02:27:16] | Aval0n: | is the command the same? |
| [02:27:48] | EnderTheThird: | yeah |
| [02:27:59] | Aval0n: | hdmi might just be different |
| [02:28:04] | Aval0n: | cause HDMI only accepts 2ch |
| [02:28:05] | jduggan: | clever: ok, both offsets are 0 – the mythfrontend screen is shifted down (still seeing the xfce panel), if i increase the gui height, it covers it, but then i lose buttons on teh bottom, so i need a negative number on the offset |
| [02:28:05] | EnderTheThird: | i do have DTS passthru enabled. shoudln't make a difference, but you could check |
| [02:28:14] | Aval0n: | I have that enabled too |
| [02:28:14] | EnderTheThird: | thought HDMI did surround? |
| [02:28:20] | Aval0n: | don't belive so |
| [02:28:21] | EnderTheThird: | or just not that version |
| [02:28:31] | clever: | jduggan: if the frontend isnt totaly fullscreen the panels will show OVER the frontend |
| [02:28:44] | clever: | jduggan: even with the frontend going to the very top it will be UNDER the panels |
| [02:29:11] | Aval0n: | mixerdevice=default Mixer Control=PCM |
| [02:29:17] | Aval0n: | in that same FE config page |
| [02:29:32] | jduggan: | clever: so how do i fix this? :( |
| [02:29:38] | Aval0n: | Passthrough Alsa device=default |
| [02:29:47] | clever: | jduggan: dont run the xfce panel when testing the overscan |
| [02:29:56] | EnderTheThird: | aval0n: i might have had to specify passthrough device |
| [02:30:32] | Aval0n: | I set it to ic958 |
| [02:30:33] | Aval0n: | or whatever |
| [02:30:35] | Aval0n: | still no sound |
| [02:30:45] | Aval0n: | before I got hissing |
| [02:30:45] | EnderTheThird: | what does your AC3 come out of? |
| [02:30:49] | Aval0n: | so I know that command is doing something |
| [02:30:51] | EnderTheThird: | because that's where the sound should be coming from now |
| [02:30:52] | Aval0n: | toslink |
| [02:31:01] | EnderTheThird: | not through HDMI |
| [02:31:31] | Aval0n: | hdmi gets if from the toslink |
| [02:31:41] | EnderTheThird: | that .asoundrc will make all sound come through your spdif (which is that iec958 optical, or whatever) |
| [02:31:42] | Aval0n: | also the toslink to my reciever has no sound now either |
| [02:32:10] | Aval0n: | that _was_ working |
| [02:32:12] | jduggan: | clever: i altready tried that... i just see the black desktop background instead... |
| [02:32:28] | clever: | jduggan: also addjusting within the frontend wont get the xfce panel off the edge of the screen |
| [02:32:35] | EnderTheThird: | specify your passthru device in myth, then restart alsa |
| [02:32:46] | Aval0n: | ok |
| [02:32:56] | jduggan: | clever: surely the mythfrontend should draw over the panel |
| [02:33:00] | clever: | jduggan: fixing in xorg.conf would fix all programs |
| [02:33:06] | EnderTheThird: | don't do default passthru, specify the alsa:iec958 device |
| [02:33:14] | Aval0n: | i did |
| [02:33:15] | Aval0n: | no sound |
| [02:33:18] | clever: | urusai! urusai! urusai! |
| [02:33:19] | clever: | jduggan: the frontend window is only ontop if its covering the ENTIRE screen |
| [02:33:21] | EnderTheThird: | restart the FE |
| [02:33:23] | Aval0n: | after /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart |
| [02:33:24] | Aval0n: | ok |
| [02:33:40] | clever: | jduggan: if you make it even 1 pixel smaller it looses the ontop status and winds up under the panels |
| [02:33:40] | EnderTheThird: | just the mythfrontend, not the whole comp |
| [02:33:46] | Aval0n: | restarted gdm entirely |
| [02:33:49] | EnderTheThird: | or that, heh |
| [02:34:25] | Aval0n: | nothing |
| [02:34:28] | Aval0n: | no sound |
| [02:34:46] | EnderTheThird: | not even through your optical? |
| [02:36:12] | Aval0n: | nope |
| [02:36:13] | EnderTheThird: | no sound at all, or just through gnome? or AC3 in FE? or stereo in FE? |
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| [02:36:30] | Aval0n: | if I play an mp3 via ssh with mpg123 I hear sound |
| [02:36:30] | EnderTheThird: | test each one if you have available recordings in there |
| [02:36:41] | Aval0n: | I took your command out and now I get sound both places |
| [02:37:04] | EnderTheThird: | not my command. found it on a gentoo wiki like a year ago, lol |
| [02:37:04] | Aval0n: | but |
| [02:37:14] | Aval0n: | let me see if I get hissing when I do a video with ac3 sound |
| [02:37:17] | Aval0n: | lol |
| [02:37:40] | Aval0n: | yeah |
| [02:37:41] | Aval0n: | get hissing |
| [02:37:44] | Aval0n: | damn it |
| [02:37:59] | Aval0n: | doesn't effect livetv though |
| [02:38:05] | EnderTheThird: | really? |
| [02:38:06] | Aval0n: | just videos that use digital sound |
| [02:38:11] | Aval0n: | correct |
| [02:38:23] | EnderTheThird: | how about live AC3 shows? |
| [02:38:28] | Aval0n: | hissing |
| [02:38:31] | Aval0n: | sorry |
| [02:38:33] | EnderTheThird: | should be the same, seeing as live tv is recorded |
| [02:38:35] | EnderTheThird: | k |
| [02:38:36] | Aval0n: | it does effect those |
| [02:38:42] | EnderTheThird: | hmm, that's odd |
| [02:38:45] | Aval0n: | yeah |
| [02:38:53] | Aval0n: | it's a digitally garbled sound |
| [02:39:13] | EnderTheThird: | if you google optical audio no sound, i bet you could find some stuff |
| [02:39:18] | Aval0n: | I have a 7300gs video card with HDMI |
| [02:39:29] | EnderTheThird: | this is what i originally used: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6204 . . . ptical+audio |
| [02:39:33] | Aval0n: | it has a little 2 pin spdif passthru pin header on it |
| [02:39:40] | Aval0n: | so jumper from the motherboard to it |
| [02:39:48] | EnderTheThird: | but i never used hdmi for anything. you might need to specify not to use the HDMI for anything in some gnome sound setup |
| [02:39:52] | Aval0n: | works fine as long as I don't have AC3 passthru on |
| [02:40:11] | Aval0n: | I just need a remote button that toggles AC3 on and off :) |
| [02:40:18] | EnderTheThird: | i just have DVI -> HDMI with all audio through onboard optical |
| [02:41:57] | EnderTheThird: | and that works with ac3 and stereo sound with that .asoundrc file. i'm sure someone else could probably figure this out in here though |
| [02:42:29] | EnderTheThird: | you don't have more than one passthru device available in options, do you? |
| [02:43:32] | Aval0n: | no |
| [02:43:37] | Aval0n: | just default and ic958 |
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| [02:43:42] | Aval0n: | but default = ic958 |
| [02:43:44] | Aval0n: | :) |
| [02:45:54] | EnderTheThird: | damn |
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| [02:46:22] | EnderTheThird: | you could experiment with different combinations while keeping that file to see if you can get it to work. otherwise you got me stumped |
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| [02:48:57] | EnderTheThird: | could be that you have the wrong soundcard selected as well. if you have onboard and a soundcard with optical, it might be defaulting to the wrong one or something. probably easiest if you hooked up a KB&M for a min, heh |
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| [02:49:17] | zachman123: | Anyone know how to fix pink/green bars when using the crop filter? |
| [02:49:18] | psm321: | anyone know what changed in the myth transcoder between 0.20.2 and current SVN? my transcoded files are almost twice as big now but the same approximate quality |
| [02:49:32] | psm321: | and i didnt change any settings other than upgrade |
| [02:50:17] | tjcarter: | zachman123: crop at even 8 pixel boundaries? |
| [02:50:50] | Aval0n: | is it possible to enter a little command in lircrc? |
| [02:50:53] | Aval0n: | or just keys? |
| [02:51:14] | iamlindoro_: | if the program it's attached to is irexec, you can run a script |
| [02:51:17] | GreyFoxx: | psm321: I think I saw someone mention affmpeg bug which calculates mpeg4 encoding bitrates incorrectly, basically doubling the bitrate |
| [02:51:33] | jb17bsome: | psm321: See http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4240 |
| [02:52:38] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [02:52:42] | zachman123: | sorry tjcarter, but I don't understand what you mean. I'm just using crop with the default 16 pixels or whatever |
| [02:52:45] | Aval0n: | it's just lircrc in my mythdir |
| [02:52:56] | Aval0n: | I would like a button to eject my drive try |
| [02:53:49] | Aval0n: | with irexec would have to go inbetween lirc and mythtv? |
| [02:53:55] | Aval0n: | for scripts? |
| [02:54:09] | zachman123: | all I'm really looking to do is get rid of the white lines at the top of the picture |
| [02:54:21] | zachman123: | on some channels |
| [02:54:23] | Aval0n: | then expand your video size |
| [02:54:28] | Aval0n: | under settings |
| [02:54:34] | Aval0n: | so it crops it off |
| [02:54:38] | Aval0n: | like it's supposed to |
| [02:54:47] | Aval0n: | the white lines are normal |
| [02:54:51] | zachman123: | I don't want the picture to fill the whole screen though |
| [02:55:08] | Aval0n: | =/ |
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| [02:55:43] | zachman123: | which is why the crop filter would be perfect, if it worked for me |
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| [02:59:06] | clever: | segfault! |
| [02:59:20] | clever: | #1 0xb7a2f474 in NuppelVideoPlayer::SetCommBreakMap (this=0x0, newMap=@0xbf940210) at NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp:5717 |
| [02:59:20] | clever: | #2 0xb7a061cc in TV::customEvent (this=0xb2a93638, e=0x9597898) at tv_play.cpp:5814 |
| [02:59:39] | jams: | wow clever can create segfaults on demand |
| [02:59:59] | clever: | jams: im just running the same steps over and over on a script to try and trigger a diff bug:P |
| [03:00:18] | clever: | using the network control socket to control it automaticaly |
| [03:01:10] | clever: | i thought ive seen this before |
| [03:01:11] | clever: | - nvp->SetCommBreakMap(newMap); |
| [03:01:11] | clever: | + if (nvp) |
| [03:01:14] | clever: | + nvp->SetCommBreakMap(newMap); |
| [03:01:17] | clever: | its allready patched on my master |
| [03:01:24] | clever: | forgot to submit a ticket |
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| [03:05:44] | psm321: | GreyFoxx and jb17bsome : thanks! |
| [03:06:32] | psm321: | hmm so it hasn't been fixed? :( |
| [03:06:40] | leprechau: | brb.... |
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| [03:08:27] | GreyFoxx: | psm321: janneg was looking at it yesterday or the day before, so I don't think so |
| [03:08:38] | psm321: | ok :-/ |
| [03:09:00] | psm321: | between this and my transcode queue falling behind realtime i'm running out of disk pretty fast |
| [03:10:46] | psm321: | hmm anyone know the svn equivalent of cvs status? (trying to figure out what rev i have checked out) |
| [03:10:55] | GreyFoxx: | svn info |
| [03:11:51] | psm321: | cool :) |
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| [03:13:17] | stuporglue: | Does anyone have a direct link for the Xebian E images of MythTV for Xbox? I'm trying to download them with Bittorrent, but they're going to take at least 17 more hours...if the person I'm downloading them from doesn't go offline. |
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| [03:14:17] | javatexan2: | anyone feel like perling tonight....I have a directory full of episodes of shows. I have a hash of show name that I am interested in transcoding. How do I ask perl if the current episodeofshowx.mpeg starts matches one of the keys in hashtable upto size of key in hash /i? |
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| [03:15:24] | abarbaccia: | hey guy – long time no talk |
| [03:15:37] | abarbaccia: | anybody here have an onkyo receiver they use with their myth box? |
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| [03:16:15] | psm321: | javatexan2: may i pm you? (want to get some clarification on your question) |
| [03:17:15] | javatexan2: | hang on |
| [03:18:07] | abarbaccia: | they have a remote interface on the back that apparently forwards remote signal from the receiver to other components |
| [03:18:48] | abarbaccia: | im trying to take these signals and use them with lircd through the audio_alsa driver |
| [03:18:55] | javatexan2: | how do you change nick again at the cli |
| [03:19:06] | abarbaccia: | "/nick <your nick>" |
| [03:19:07] | abarbaccia: | i think |
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| [03:19:51] | javatexan: | okay that is better...you should be able to pm me now |
| [03:20:48] | Tanthrix: | Hrm. One of my NTFS drives has two separate drive letters mounted, yet only one shows up in the disk manger... |
| [03:23:39] | iamlindoro_: | Hey Myth HD users, go over to this wiki page and run the script there on the file that *most* taxes your system (while still playing smoothly) and add your information to the table, will you? Then we can point people at that page to show examples of what hardware can manage various HD resolutions. http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/HD_Playback_Reports |
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| [03:25:02] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro: Will do, as soon as I get this system sorted out. |
| [03:25:12] | iamlindoro_: | Tanthrix: Thanks |
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| [03:25:44] | iamlindoro_: | Tanthrix: I spent the afternoon getting the script working properly and simple, and would be nice to have a page to point people at for CPU/memory questions re: HD |
| [03:27:18] | fryfrog: | iamlindoro_: nice :) |
| [03:27:41] | leprechau: | iamlindoro, my mythbox doesn't do hd at the moment...but I can run it on my linux desktop here with mplayer if that would help any |
| [03:28:08] | iamlindoro_: | leprechau: sure, so long as you're playing back an HD source file |
| [03:28:40] | leprechau: | aight...i got lots of hdtv shows and some 1080p blueray rips and whatnot |
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| [03:29:29] | iamlindoro_: | leprechau: Yeah, just play the thing that is *most* difficult to play on your system, but still plays properly |
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| [03:29:40] | leprechau: | gotcha |
| [03:29:45] | iamlindoro_: | leprechau: Thanks, it would be really helpful |
| [03:29:48] | Tanthrix: | Anyone happen to know how to get rid of a mounted drive letter in windows? |
| [03:29:58] | leprechau: | lemme browse though some things |
| [03:30:00] | Smirnov: | are there any scripts that will scan folders automatically every once in a while or maybe when a new file is added? |
| [03:30:16] | Tanthrix: | Smirnov: For myth video? |
| [03:30:22] | Smirnov: | Tanthrix: yeah |
| [03:30:34] | Tanthrix: | Smirnov: You can just set it up to broswe files and show everything. That's how I have mine – never scanned anything. |
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| [03:30:42] | Smirnov: | Tanthrix: oh really? i like that idea |
| [03:30:46] | iamlindoro_: | Tanthrix: right click it in my computer, I think there's "Disconnect" |
| [03:30:59] | Smirnov: | Tanthrix: is that in the newest mythtv only? im still using a slightly old version |
| [03:31:03] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro: That's only for mapped network drives. |
| [03:31:12] | GreyFoxx: | Smirnov: It's been there for years and years |
| [03:31:17] | Tanthrix: | Smirnov: Not to my knowledge, I've been doing it for years |
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| [03:31:20] | Smirnov: | GreyFoxx: oh nice let me try that :D |
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| [03:31:21] | iamlindoro_: | Tanthrix: Oh, you're talking about an actual physical drive? I think if you right click my computer and choose "Manage" |
| [03:31:22] | GreyFoxx: | I've ALWAYS used the option, and that's back in '02 '03 |
| [03:31:25] | iamlindoro_: | then go to "Disk Management" |
| [03:31:31] | iamlindoro_: | it should be possible from there |
| [03:31:36] | psm321: | ok so i've got the file size mystery solved (tho not fixed) |
| [03:31:38] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro: That's the thing – it's mounted twice, and only one of them shows up there. |
| [03:31:38] | Smirnov: | hmm what is that option called |
| [03:31:51] | psm321: | now i just need to figure out why i dont get captions on the pvr-500 |
| [03:31:54] | iamlindoro_: | Tanthrix: Well *that's* odd |
| [03:32:07] | iamlindoro_: | freakin windows |
| [03:32:11] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro: I even removed the reference to it from MountedDevices in the registry |
| [03:32:27] | iamlindoro_: | Mmm, the registry, such a splendid idea |
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| [03:32:52] | fryfrog: | iamlindoro_: it didn't work on the mkv i tried :( |
| [03:33:13] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: hmm, what'd it give you/fail on? |
| [03:33:29] | fryfrog: | no fial, just doesn't give info on the file (bitrate, etc) |
| [03:33:35] | fryfrog: | i'm playing around now, i'll let you know |
| [03:33:44] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: if you do fmpeg -i on the file, does it give you the bitrate there? |
| [03:33:56] | iamlindoro_: | something like Duration: 02:24:12.6, start: 11.650667, bitrate: 32469 kb/s |
| [03:34:02] | iamlindoro_: | er ffmpeg -i |
| [03:34:30] | abarbaccia: | iamlindoro_ i ran the script but the bitrate was missing. |
| [03:34:46] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: Yeah, I see that... how about with you? ffmpeg -i give you the info, or no? |
| [03:35:00] | iamlindoro_: | I may just have to get more clever about my grepping if it's in there |
| [03:35:14] | iamlindoro_: | works on both my systems but want it to work for everyone |
| [03:35:38] | abarbaccia: | Duration: 01:56:32.5, bitrate: N/A |
| [03:35:38] | abarbaccia: | Stream #0.0: Video: h264, yuv420p, 1280x528, 23.98 fps(r) |
| [03:35:38] | abarbaccia: | Stream #0.1: Audio: 0x0000, 48000 Hz, 5:1 |
| [03:35:49] | iamlindoro_: | heh... what container type? |
| [03:35:59] | abarbaccia: | mkv |
| [03:36:06] | psm321: | anyone know when storage groups came in? (thinking of switching back to pre-ffmpeg merge, i really cant afford losing all that disk space) |
| [03:36:18] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: try mplayer -ao null -vo null -frames 0 filename |grep ID_VIDEO_BITRATE |
| [03:36:24] | psm321: | whether it was before or after |
| [03:36:28] | iamlindoro_: | er, add -identify to that |
| [03:36:29] | GreyFoxx: | psm321: long before the last ffmpeg merge |
| [03:36:37] | GreyFoxx: | psm321: just lower the bitrate in the profile ? |
| [03:36:43] | iamlindoro_: | mplayer -ao null -vo null -frames 0 -identify filename |grep ID_VIDEO_BITRATE |
| [03:36:43] | GreyFoxx: | since it's being doubled, cut yours in half |
| [03:37:04] | fryfrog: | humm, appears "bitrate" isn't always there |
| [03:37:07] | iamlindoro_: | I imagine lots of people are going to try with MKVs, it's bad news if ffmpeg wont' read the bitrates |
| [03:37:07] | abarbaccia: | mplayer command not found ;-) |
| [03:37:11] | iamlindoro_: | hehe |
| [03:37:22] | iamlindoro_: | well still, it gives some good info |
| [03:37:25] | iamlindoro_: | It's a start |
| [03:37:26] | abarbaccia: | definitely does |
| [03:37:27] | abarbaccia: | buttttt |
| [03:37:35] | abarbaccia: | bitrate is the most important out of all the readings |
| [03:37:39] | iamlindoro_: | agreed |
| [03:37:41] | psm321: | GreyFoxx: hmm that would work too except i'm afraid that might cause problems since nuvinfo apparently reports the same bitrate for a pre-merge and post-merge file (accurding to the attachments on the bug) |
| [03:37:52] | iamlindoro_: | ffmpeg is far more reliable on the bitrate than mplayer, too |
| [03:37:54] | iamlindoro_: | hmmm |
| [03:38:27] | abarbaccia: | iamlindoro_: is it something you could calculate based on the fps, resolution, and audio (which is probably negligable compared to the video density) |
| [03:38:27] | psm321: | GreyFoxx: that and they quality looks the same to me at the double bitrate, so i'm worried that it's encoding at the same bitrate as before but stuffing extra garbage in or something, inb which case halving it would cut quality |
| [03:38:42] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: Nope, unfortunately |
| [03:38:44] | fryfrog: | iamlindoro_: you need to add something |
| [03:38:51] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: What's that? |
| [03:39:03] | fryfrog: | iamlindoro_: playing back h/x264 is using... internal player? xine? mplayer? |
| [03:39:17] | fryfrog: | because I've been able to playback *anything* on mplayer/xine, but it won't work on internal player |
| [03:39:28] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: It can go in the comments |
| [03:39:38] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: 'cause there's no way to automate how the user plays the file |
| [03:39:46] | iamlindoro_: | (ie, no way to get that from the script) |
| [03:39:47] | fryfrog: | yeah, i concur |
| [03:39:54] | fryfrog: | i think you should add a new field in the output |
| [03:40:27] | fryfrog: | i'd say "Player: Internal, Xine, Mplayer, etc" or something |
| [03:40:28] | psm321: | GreyFoxx: actually downgrades arent possible are they? (because of the db) so i guess i will have to try the half bitrate idea and see where it goes |
| [03:40:30] | fryfrog: | so they know to pick it |
| [03:41:25] | fryfrog: | cause internal sucks for .mkv :( |
| [03:41:27] | iamlindoro_: | new field added and empty field added to the script |
| [03:41:30] | fryfrog: | and mplayer/xine rule just fine |
| [03:41:33] | fryfrog: | cool :) |
| [03:41:37] | iamlindoro_: | ;) |
| [03:41:39] | iamlindoro_: | good suggestion |
| [03:42:03] | abarbaccia: | iamlindoro_ are you pulling that information from the database? |
| [03:42:24] | fryfrog: | abarbaccia: what info? |
| [03:42:32] | iamlindoro_: | yeah, which info? |
| [03:42:33] | abarbaccia: | the xine info |
| [03:42:37] | abarbaccia: | or mplayer |
| [03:42:40] | fryfrog: | what xine info? |
| [03:42:45] | abarbaccia: | like which player they are using |
| [03:42:48] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [03:42:51] | iamlindoro_: | naw, just put mplayer in for yours without asking :) |
| [03:42:57] | fryfrog: | i spose in theory, you could |
| [03:43:01] | abarbaccia: | lol – it's internal incase you were wondering |
| [03:43:11] | iamlindoro_: | I *could* but then the script wouldn't work for anyone using browse mode |
| [03:43:12] | abarbaccia: | why does the internal player bite it on mkv |
| [03:43:13] | cal_: | is anyone currently working on the StreamTV of mythweb? |
| [03:43:18] | fryfrog: | abarbaccia: I was going to guess that |
| [03:43:24] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: In that case, the reason skipping doesn't work isn't CPU load ;) |
| [03:43:30] | fryfrog: | abarbaccia: it can't read the container very well, something that GreyFoxx informed me of |
| [03:43:31] | abarbaccia: | hahahah indeeed |
| [03:43:37] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: it's because internal can't skip in MKVx |
| [03:43:38] | fryfrog: | switch to mplayer/xine and you'll be *fine* |
| [03:43:38] | xris: | cal_: mythstreamtv has been dead for years... and was never part of mythweb. |
| [03:43:40] | psm321: | how difficult is it to setup a slave mythbackend solely for transcode/commercial flag jobs? are there any livecd's out there that would allow it? |
| [03:43:50] | fryfrog: | I do .mkv with an X2 4600+ |
| [03:43:59] | cal_: | xris: its part of mythweb on knoppmyth i guess |
| [03:44:01] | Smirnov: | ok i have a problem... i set my GUI x and y offsets (in windowed mode) and now whenever I go open any menu, it blinks the menus really fast and then the menus all disappear and all i see is the gray background |
| [03:44:13] | abarbaccia: | interesting. which do you think is better – mplayer or xine (please don't start a flame war...) |
| [03:44:20] | cal_: | xris: so whats the official way to stream now? |
| [03:44:28] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: Well I use mplayer for MKVs, personally, to each his own |
| [03:44:29] | abarbaccia: | the built in flash player |
| [03:44:35] | xris: | cal_: it was a plugin that ran from within mythweb, but was never part of mythweb. |
| [03:44:46] | abarbaccia: | which for some reason doesn't stream sound for me |
| [03:44:54] | xris: | abarbaccia: you need mp3 support in ffmpeg |
| [03:45:04] | abarbaccia: | yeah, any way to add that in without recompiling? |
| [03:45:19] | abarbaccia: | got an ubuntu package laying around for me? |
| [03:45:26] | cal_: | i guess knoppmyth doesnt come with the flash player, but puts still adds the outdated streamtv. LOL |
| [03:47:12] | iamlindoro_: | prompt added to ask for player selection... thanks guys |
| [03:47:28] | fryfrog: | abarbaccia: xine does dvd menus, mplayer isn't as great, but both are equally spiffy. I use mplayer, no specific reason. |
| [03:47:43] | fryfrog: | abarbaccia: are you asking about package for mplayer/xine? or something else? |
| [03:47:59] | fryfrog: | abarbaccia: all you do is goto mythvideo's settings and switch from "internal" player to what ever you like. |
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| [03:48:13] | fryfrog: | and then spend a little time making your lircrc file useful |
| [03:48:20] | fryfrog: | wow, lotta people running ubuntu i think :p |
| [03:48:22] | leprechau: | I wish xine worked better |
| [03:48:24] | fryfrog: | in your list so far |
| [03:48:30] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: I can give you a .deb for ffmpeg |
| [03:48:36] | iamlindoro_: | and mine's extra-fancy |
| [03:48:38] | abarbaccia: | fryfrog: i know how to switch it over, im just being lazy – i was asking about ffmpeg w mp3 |
| [03:48:43] | psm321: | amazing how fast the scheduler works when you only have 4 recording schedules :) |
| [03:48:46] | iamlindoro_: | with patches for extra HD-DVD and Blu-ray audio formats ;) |
| [03:48:47] | abarbaccia: | o, i like extra-fancy |
| [03:49:02] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: idisk.mac.com/r.mcnamara-Public?view=web |
| [03:49:03] | leprechau: | I have alot dvd images that xine barfs on |
| [03:49:08] | fryfrog: | oops, i took that from my be not my fe |
| [03:49:10] | leprechau: | but mplayer doesn't ever complain |
| [03:49:22] | leprechau: | same with vlc...things vlc freezes on mplayer just keeps on going |
| [03:49:22] | abarbaccia: | u compile this one yourself? |
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| [03:49:24] | iamlindoro_: | my debs for ffmpeg and mplayer are there, patched to support the HD-DVD/Blu-ray E-AC3, mlp, and TrueHD formats |
| [03:49:27] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: yes |
| [03:49:31] | clever: | psm321: i think the scheduler time depends on oldrecord record and channels tables |
| [03:49:38] | iamlindoro_: | ah, you'll need to be 64 bit, though |
| [03:49:41] | abarbaccia: | how did you make the deb? this is something i've been trying to learn for a long time |
| [03:49:44] | abarbaccia: | BLAST! |
| [03:49:47] | abarbaccia: | foiled again. |
| [03:49:53] | psm321: | clever: yeah makes sense, its just refreshing |
| [03:49:54] | clever: | psm321: which have the pastrecordinglist rules and number of shows(in program not channels i mean) |
| [03:49:55] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: checkinstall install of make install |
| [03:50:05] | iamlindoro_: | er checkinstall instead of make install |
| [03:50:10] | abarbaccia: | woah. go over that one more time |
| [03:50:11] | leprechau: | debian based distros scare me |
| [03:50:19] | iamlindoro_: | ./configure ---whatever |
| [03:50:20] | iamlindoro_: | make |
| [03:50:23] | iamlindoro_: | checkinstall |
| [03:50:25] | iamlindoro_: | that's it |
| [03:50:32] | abarbaccia: | and it poops out a .deb? |
| [03:50:34] | clever: | psm321: the more channels you have the more guide data there is and the longer it takes |
| [03:50:34] | iamlindoro_: | yep |
| [03:50:36] | psm321: | clever: after having ~30–60 second scheduler runs... a 0.2 second run is pretty nice :) |
| [03:50:50] | fryfrog: | my only other suggestion is to have the script *not* echo to a file, just echo to terminal |
| [03:50:56] | fryfrog: | that way it is a simple cut/paste |
| [03:50:59] | clever: | psm321: more data in oldrecord from things youve done in the past(to prevent rerecording) the slower it gets |
| [03:51:07] | abarbaccia: | iamlindoro_ yeah, i agree |
| [03:51:25] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: On *that* one I think it's just a matter of taste... I'm concerned about line breaks there, it's an awful long line |
| [03:51:36] | iamlindoro_: | or that they will miss one of the ||'s |
| [03:51:54] | iamlindoro_: | eg, if you run it from putty, it won't paste right, it'll add extra line breaks |
| [03:52:17] | iamlindoro_: | that said, I can do both |
| [03:52:54] | abarbaccia: | putty? |
| [03:52:59] | abarbaccia: | who here honestly runs windows |
| [03:53:00] | abarbaccia: | god. |
| [03:53:08] | abarbaccia: | they shouldn't deserve good copy pastes |
| [03:53:30] | iamlindoro_: | I have to at work, I'm a slave to my paycheck :) |
| [03:53:39] | abarbaccia: | did you guys hear about my next new adventure in customizing my mythbox? |
| [03:53:44] | iamlindoro_: | anyway, cat of the file added to the end. Now you get both. |
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| [03:54:10] | abarbaccia: | amazing |
| [03:54:23] | fryfrog: | iamlindoro_: could you also have it report the file exension/container? |
| [03:54:41] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: It doesn't really add much to the information |
| [03:54:53] | fryfrog: | in the case of .mkv, it really does |
| [03:54:54] | iamlindoro_: | Since the container isn't going to limit playback speed |
| [03:54:58] | fryfrog: | because internal and .mkv suck |
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| [03:55:13] | iamlindoro_: | that's true, but it's about being capable of playing back the codecs and bitrates |
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| [03:55:29] | fryfrog: | how bout just put it with codec? |
| [03:55:34] | fryfrog: | call it "codec/extension" |
| [03:55:40] | fryfrog: | and do "h264/mkv" |
| [03:56:05] | iamlindoro_: | I think it complexifies it too much. I'm going to leave it as-is for now |
| [03:56:14] | fryfrog: | in theory, it shouldn't matter... but in reality, it really *does* |
| [03:56:23] | fryfrog: | as the internal player and .mkv playback shows |
| [03:56:27] | iamlindoro_: | because the page is supposed to be about playing the codecs at a given resolution on a given processor |
| [03:56:58] | fryfrog: | well, for example abarbaccia's entry is very missleading |
| [03:57:08] | fryfrog: | his CPU is better, but his playback is bad |
| [03:57:20] | iamlindoro_: | and it's explained in the comment |
| [03:57:25] | rushfan: | omg this stress is killing me |
| [03:57:45] | fryfrog: | yes, but if neither of us had been here, when he was talking about it... we'd not have known if it was due to .mkv or not |
| [03:57:47] | Aval0n: | anyone scripted a button on their remote to eject a DVD? |
| [03:58:01] | Aval0n: | I'm a novice with irexec |
| [03:58:03] | fryfrog: | Aval0n: doesn't sound to hard, why not "irexec" and "eject /dev/device"? |
| [03:58:06] | Aval0n: | or < novice either |
| [03:58:24] | Aval0n: | do I have to run irexec as a service? |
| [03:59:18] | abarbaccia: | fryfrog wouldnt you know its mkv based on the h264 encoding |
| [03:59:22] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro: Uninstalling the drive and rebooting seemed to get rid of the mysterious drive letter. Fixed now. |
| [03:59:33] | iamlindoro_: | Tanthrix: Cool |
| [03:59:39] | Tanthrix: | abarbaccia: MKV is just a container, nothing more. |
| [03:59:41] | fryfrog: | http://pastebin.ca/858117 |
| [03:59:52] | fryfrog: | abarbaccia: no, h264 can be inside many other containers |
| [04:00:00] | fryfrog: | that pastebin was for Aval0n |
| [04:00:10] | Aval0n: | fry and that just goes into lircrc? |
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| [04:00:28] | fryfrog: | yes, and you do need to be running irexec |
| [04:00:31] | fryfrog: | trying to see how i do it now |
| [04:00:38] | Aval0n: | cool thanks |
| [04:00:50] | fryfrog: | i think it is in my 1minute cron job |
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| [04:00:56] | rushfan: | id just like to know how a guitar strap disappears into thing air |
| [04:00:58] | fryfrog: | which checks to see if the FE and irexec are running |
| [04:01:15] | Aval0n: | so hmm |
| [04:01:35] | fryfrog: | i don't see a scrpt in /etc/init.d |
| [04:01:36] | Aval0n: | cool thanks |
| [04:02:57] | fryfrog: | http://pastebin.ca/858119 |
| [04:03:12] | fryfrog: | that is my simple script that when run makes sure my FE is running and that irexec hasn't gone out of control |
| [04:03:26] | fryfrog: | nfi if there is an irexec init script, i'm lazy |
| [04:03:50] | clever: | :S |
| [04:04:02] | clever: | the db upgrade my slaves did killed the recording ability of the master |
| [04:04:10] | clever: | and the master is still recompiling |
| [04:04:14] | fryfrog: | oops :p |
| [04:04:21] | Aval0n: | ty |
| [04:04:31] | fryfrog: | i always hold off on make install until they are all ready :) |
| [04:04:42] | fryfrog: | Aval0n: obviously, you should modify this script to your own desire |
| [04:04:54] | clever: | fryfrog: i was in a rush and it doesnt normaly do this:P |
| [04:05:00] | fryfrog: | ah :) |
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| [04:10:39] | abarbaccia: | iamlindoro_ im trying my first checkinstall – thanks for the help btw |
| [04:10:40] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: What container was what you used with my script? |
| [04:10:50] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: No problem, thank you for adding to the wiki |
| [04:11:18] | clever: | fryfrog: still compiling.... |
| [04:11:19] | abarbaccia: | anything i can do |
| [04:11:23] | clever: | wheres the hammer... |
| [04:11:34] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: MKV? |
| [04:11:35] | fryfrog: | iamlindoro_: .mkv from mine |
| [04:11:35] | abarbaccia: | i shoulda compiled this on my good machine not my damn mythbox.... |
| [04:11:43] | iamlindoro_: | okay, thanks... added extension to the script |
| [04:11:57] | fryfrog: | wow, wtf is m2ts and evo? |
| [04:12:14] | iamlindoro_: | m2ts is a TS from a blu-ray disk, EVO is the container from HD-DVD |
| [04:12:21] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [04:12:34] | fryfrog: | so do you just rip your blu/hd w/o transcoding? |
| [04:12:40] | iamlindoro_: | yup |
| [04:12:45] | iamlindoro_: | Disk space is cheap |
| [04:12:50] | psm321: | ok let me ask a more generic question... can a slave backend preform jobs (trascode/flag) on recordings from the master backend? and does it happen automatically? |
| [04:12:52] | fryfrog: | cpu time is not? :) |
| [04:12:57] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: *exactly* |
| [04:13:03] | fryfrog: | psm321: yeah, should do just fine |
| [04:13:18] | fryfrog: | psm321: there a number of fun "job" settings you can explore |
| [04:13:41] | psm321: | fryfrog: do the files need to be on an nfs share or some such or will the master stream them over? (i still want all storage on the master) |
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| [04:14:04] | fryfrog: | probably nfs mounted would be my guess |
| [04:14:12] | psm321: | fryfrog: basically i just want to add another box to help with the cpu load of transcoding without changing anything else |
| [04:14:13] | fryfrog: | in the exact same place |
| [04:14:27] | psm321: | k |
| [04:14:29] | fryfrog: | psm321: why not simply boost your BE's cpu? |
| [04:14:42] | psm321: | fryfrog: 2 things |
| [04:14:42] | fryfrog: | if you are using 939 amd, you can get X2 cpus cheap |
| [04:14:47] | psm321: | fryfrog: 1.) $$$$$ |
| [04:15:05] | psm321: | fryfrog: 2.) i'm pretty sure i would have to upgrade my mobo... it's a 4 yr old system |
| [04:15:11] | fryfrog: | ah, what cpu? |
| [04:15:30] | psm321: | Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz |
| [04:15:35] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [04:15:46] | fryfrog: | well, you might find a cheap old dual core that fits your socket |
| [04:15:49] | fryfrog: | i mean, if you wanted |
| [04:15:59] | fryfrog: | but... i spose if you already have a spare pc to bring online, why not |
| [04:15:59] | psm321: | that would be ideal actually |
| [04:16:10] | fryfrog: | do you know what kind of socket the P4 is? |
| [04:16:14] | psm321: | didnt know that there were dual cores back then |
| [04:16:15] | fryfrog: | there are so many :( |
| [04:16:24] | psm321: | um let me check (i know my motherboard model) |
| [04:16:36] | fryfrog: | psm321: 939 didn't originally have dual core either, but it does now (even if it is obsolete) |
| [04:16:56] | fryfrog: | I stuck an X2 4600+ in to replace a 3000+ :) |
| [04:17:08] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog, try something for me really quick..try "mplayer -ao null -vo null -frames 0 -identify filename.mkv |grep ID_VIDEO_BITRATE" and see if that line shows = 0, or a real bitrate |
| [04:17:15] | fryfrog: | but it didn't fix what i was hoping to fix, instead i think i'd have been okay switching to mplayer :/ |
| [04:17:18] | fryfrog: | sure, hang on |
| [04:17:41] | clever: | iamlindoro_: -vc null may also help speed it up a tad more |
| [04:18:01] | iamlindoro_: | clever: it takes like less than a second :) |
| [04:18:01] | clever: | disabled the video codec so it wont decode and throw out the video |
| [04:18:19] | psm321: | fryfrog: socket 478 |
| [04:18:33] | psm321: | fryfrog: http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/mb_cpu_support_u . . . &SITE=US |
| [04:18:35] | iamlindoro_: | clever: anyway, I'm not gonna script that, it's so unreliable... mplayer returns 0 for about 90% of my stuff |
| [04:18:47] | clever: | lol |
| [04:18:50] | iamlindoro_: | clever: ffmpeg works far more reliably IME |
| [04:19:04] | clever: | ffmpeg segfaults on my nuv files |
| [04:19:17] | clever: | im using mencoder to RAW aud/vid to spoonfeed ffmpeg :P |
| [04:19:18] | iamlindoro_: | ideall nobody will run this on NUVs :) |
| [04:19:35] | clever: | mythtranscode and framegrabbers both output nuv's:( |
| [04:19:39] | fryfrog: | iamlindoro_: 0 :( |
| [04:19:46] | psm321: | fryfrog: my problem with upgrading motherboard (in addition to $$$) is its very hard to find newer boards with enough pci slots (and serial ports too) |
| [04:19:52] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: Meh, okay.. guess it's just not possible to get it for that file |
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| [04:20:07] | fryfrog: | would xine? |
| [04:20:11] | abarbaccia: | has anybody tried the hdhomerun to get around that damn pci slot problem |
| [04:20:13] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: Do you have a file that challenges your system comparably that returns results for bitrate? |
| [04:20:41] | fryfrog: | i'd have to go home and play, i usually delete stuff once watched :( |
| [04:20:44] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: Naw, they all use libavcodec |
| [04:20:50] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: No big deal, this works |
| [04:20:57] | fryfrog: | If you have any sample clips you know of, those would be a good place to add links in the wiki |
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| [04:21:06] | iamlindoro_: | fryfrog: Yep, good point |
| [04:21:07] | fryfrog: | so you'd even have a fair comparison |
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| [04:21:52] | strcrssd: | I'm running mythbuntu, have a Pinnacle WMC Remote kit, and need help getting it working. When it is plugged in, dmesg shows that it is recognized, but it doesn't seem to created /dev/lirc files, nor does it correspond to something in /dev/input/* It looks like its an LIRC driver problem, but this model is theoretically supported under the mceusb2 drivers. |
| [04:21:54] | jhulst: | abarbaccia: I have an HD Homerun |
| [04:21:59] | iamlindoro_: | that x264.nl site should work |
| [04:22:02] | fryfrog: | psm321: I don't see anything in that list that implies dual core :( |
| [04:22:18] | abarbaccia: | jhulst: hows it working for you? |
| [04:22:31] | psm321: | fryfrog: yeah actually as far as i can tell there are no socket 478 dual core processors |
| [04:22:58] | jhulst: | abarbaccia: great, nice and easy setup, works well |
| [04:23:08] | abarbaccia: | no dual core 478 procs |
| [04:23:46] | psm321: | fryfrog: so basically i want to wait until i can afford a new set of equipment, make the new mobo/cpu (assuming i can find a mobo w/ enough pci) along with old case into my new backend, and stick the old mobo/cpu into an htpc case for a frontend so i wont have the big box and wires near the tv anymore |
| [04:24:02] | psm321: | but for now i need something to keep my queue up |
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| [04:24:16] | fryfrog: | sounds like a good plan :) |
| [04:24:31] | fryfrog: | the other option is to *not* transcode |
| [04:24:37] | fryfrog: | just buy a 500G HD for $100 |
| [04:24:44] | fryfrog: | and delete stuff when done watching |
| [04:24:50] | psm321: | i have lots of hd's already... i just record too much |
| [04:25:00] | psm321: | and could never delte it (just the way i am) |
| [04:25:15] | mchou: | psm321: stop being a digital packrat |
| [04:25:26] | psm321: | mchou: wish i could... |
| [04:25:33] | fryfrog: | ahha |
| [04:25:37] | fryfrog: | i have the same problem :) |
| [04:25:45] | fryfrog: | and I can't add any more hard drives to my case! |
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| [04:25:51] | mchou: | psm321: in any case all the shows you are saving will come back again as reruns |
| [04:26:00] | psm321: | fryfrog: do what i do and stick them on top |
| [04:26:01] | cal_: | is this what mythweb flash looks like now? http://www.elkin.de/images/mythweb-flashplayer.png ..mine seems to be way outdated. |
| [04:26:04] | fryfrog: | if my 320G drives don't die, i'm going to have a big surplus of them when 1TB drives are $100 :) |
| [04:26:18] | psm321: | mchou: many of them are reruns, and unfortunately a lot of good shows do disappear forever |
| [04:26:25] | clever: | fryfrog: i went over the price/gig of a few drives from staples |
| [04:26:26] | mchou: | psm321: like? |
| [04:26:30] | fryfrog: | except on... er... stuff :) |
| [04:26:36] | fryfrog: | clever: stables, ftl |
| [04:26:38] | fryfrog: | newegg, ftw :) |
| [04:26:38] | clever: | fryfrog: and the 1tb drives where slightly more expensive/gig then the smaller ones |
| [04:26:41] | psm321: | fryfrog: i'll take a picture and post it some day |
| [04:26:48] | clever: | fryfrog: we dont have a newegg nearby:P |
| [04:26:55] | mchou: | I dunno. |
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| [04:27:12] | psm321: | mchou: well smart guy for one... it used to run before i got my mythbox, doesnt air anymore (hasnt in 4-ish years) |
| [04:27:20] | mchou: | I dont think drives are going to get that cheap with the economy going south |
| [04:27:22] | fryfrog: | clever: yeah, I think now 750G is the point where they get to be a worse buy. 500G and 400G are the best GB/$$ last I looked (seagates, at newegg) |
| [04:27:40] | m4yh3m: | hi.. can anyone tell me if the nvidia 7300le is a decent card for hdtv playback? |
| [04:27:41] | clever: | fryfrog: i was calcing out 29–35 cents/gig |
| [04:27:46] | psm321: | 500 are best price ratio (i bought recently) |
| [04:27:49] | fryfrog: | mchou: prices always go down, the economy just might slow it down. |
| [04:27:53] | clever: | fryfrog: some of the usb sticks i saw where 14$/gig ! |
| [04:27:59] | clever: | 18gig |
| [04:28:00] | ** Tanthrix is copying over data to his new 500GB drive that arrived today as we speak ** | |
| [04:28:00] | xris: | cal_: that's from svn trunk, yes |
| [04:28:02] | mchou: | 500GB is about $0.24/GB |
| [04:28:11] | fryfrog: | mmmm |
| [04:28:23] | fryfrog: | so maybe 1–2 years 1TB will be that price, it'll happen |
| [04:28:26] | abarbaccia: | woooooohoooo i have sound on my mythweb flash stream and a package to roll it out to my other boxes too! thanks iamlindoro_ |
| [04:28:35] | clever: | im looking at smart and 1 of my drives isnt 100% healty but isnt dying yet either |
| [04:28:41] | mchou: | fryfrog: nah, havent you heard?? Stagflation man |
| [04:28:50] | cal_: | xris: cant wait till its in release!!! |
| [04:28:55] | psm321: | clever: i had a drive die on me and smart still report it as ok |
| [04:28:57] | fryfrog: | what is this "mythweb flash" thing you guys are talking about? |
| [04:29:02] | Tanthrix: | If I had the money I'd grab another – I'd like to get rid of the remaining 3 IDE drives that I have in this system (two 120s, and one 250) – 8 drives is a lot for one system. |
| [04:29:07] | clever: | psm321: my 20gig drive in my laptop went tits up |
| [04:29:08] | fryfrog: | google says smart is useless. i believe google :) |
| [04:29:15] | clever: | psm321: and smart says it has 24h to live |
| [04:29:22] | iamlindoro_: | abarbaccia: No problem ;) |
| [04:29:26] | clever: | psm321: the system is now nfsroot and using a portion of the drive as swap |
| [04:29:29] | mchou: | smart on Segates are Useless |
| [04:29:37] | Tanthrix: | fryfrog: What I still don't get is that they found that drives that were a bit hotter lasted longer, something that seems very counterintuitive. |
| [04:29:41] | xris: | cal_: it'll be awhile... it won't go into .21 without some hackery because I want a bunch of stuff in the backend before I'd consider it worthy of release to the general public (still too many gotchas and dependencies on wacky ffmpeg) |
| [04:29:42] | clever: | psm321: last night X got swaped into a bad sector(i heard it) and it seg faulted |
| [04:29:48] | psm321: | clever: careful... memory erros arent nice :) |
| [04:29:49] | psm321: | heh |
| [04:29:50] | mchou: | for one thing ther reporting is all screwed up :) |
| [04:30:17] | clever: | psm321: i swapoff'ed and redid mkswap -c to refind them |
| [04:30:30] | mchou: | does smart even work on SATA drives in linux yet? |
| [04:30:35] | psm321: | yes |
| [04:31:01] | mchou: | when did this happen? |
| [04:31:12] | clever: | when you took your eyes off the comit news:P |
| [04:31:14] | cal_: | xris: still cant wait. it looks so much more cool and user friendly, and approching what things like the slingbox can do. |
| [04:31:53] | mchou: | cal_: what's so cool about the slingbox? |
| [04:32:12] | Tanthrix: | And SMART is useful – if it's reporting failures or lots of CRC errors, then your drive is going to die soon. It's just not perfect. (IE, plenty of drives die without ever reporting any problems via SMART.) |
| [04:32:35] | clever: | my 20gig ran out of realocateable sectors |
| [04:32:35] | cal_: | mchou: watch stuff from your tv on the web with a user friendly interface |
| [04:32:36] | Tanthrix: | So, I still think it's wise to just to have smartd keeping an eye on things, and report any major problems that come up. |
| [04:33:03] | mchou: | cal_: soesnt myth have the same capabilities? |
| [04:33:11] | mchou: | doesnt* |
| [04:33:14] | clever: | Tanthrix: i just turned smartd on after the 20gig dies |
| [04:33:35] | cal_: | mchou: currently, not **near** as user friendly. |
| [04:33:51] | Tanthrix: | Keeping an eye on reallocatable sectors is a good move. If you need any, that's a bad sign. If you run out, that's beyond bad. |
| [04:33:59] | mchou: | clever: 20 gig drive? what are you, living in the stone age? |
| [04:34:10] | clever: | mchou: its the oldest dell laptop |
| [04:34:17] | clever: | was dads work pc 3 laptops ago |
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| [04:35:20] | mchou: | ppl ask the strangest things.... |
| [04:35:40] | clever: | Jan 17 00:31:16 olddell smartd[4699]: Device: /dev/sda, FAILED SMART self-check. BACK UP DATA NOW! |
| [04:35:40] | clever: | Jan 17 00:31:16 olddell smartd[4699]: Device: /dev/sda, 8 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors |
| [04:36:01] | mchou: | clever: time for a dd |
| [04:36:14] | mchou: | clever: or DBAN |
| [04:36:20] | clever: | ive backed the entire rootfs to my master backend where i have a 300gig fs |
| [04:36:28] | clever: | had to delete about 20 hours of recordings |
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| [04:37:05] | clever: | getting diff errors on a 'ok' drive |
| [04:37:05] | clever: | Jan 16 22:15:22 theP4 smartd[5006]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Usage Attribute: 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count changed from 196 to 179 |
| [04:37:40] | clever: | Jan 16 20:45:22 theP4 smartd[5006]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 251 to 252 |
| [04:37:49] | clever: | Jan 16 15:15:22 theP4 smartd[5006]: Device: /dev/hdb, SMART Usage Attribute: 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered changed from 57 to 58 |
| [04:38:19] | clever: | Tanthrix: some crc errors... |
| [04:38:27] | mchou: | clever: you better come up with more creative names for your systems |
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| [04:38:43] | clever: | mchou: most of them are named affter the model number:P |
| [04:38:45] | Tanthrix: | Seriously. |
| [04:39:02] | Tanthrix: | I decided to go with norse gods and other norse stuff many years back. |
| [04:39:12] | clever: | at first 'laptop' was enough but now i have 3 of them which are able to run linux |
| [04:39:17] | Tanthrix: | I've got nastrand, ragnarok, freya, loki, aegir, jarnsaxa, and yggdrasil over here. |
| [04:39:30] | Tanthrix: | Woops – laga too. |
| [04:39:47] | clever: | ive seen people with anime names and the 7 sins too |
| [04:40:00] | clever: | greed lust ... |
| [04:40:35] | clever: | finaly the compile is done |
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| [04:41:26] | jams: | clever and the 7 virtues |
| [04:41:41] | clever: | ive got 10 systems easily |
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| [04:42:24] | clever: | olddell d600 d630 theP4 media rh9 dadxp acer newrouter |
| [04:42:36] | clever: | and others which i havent used recently but still work |
| [04:43:02] | jams: | yeah you do need new names =) |
| [04:43:28] | clever: | changing hostnames will cause some problems:P |
| [04:44:15] | clever: | some of my config files are named after the hostname |
| [04:46:09] | Tanthrix: | Anyone know of any cheap-ish, emtpy NAS devices that can take 4–5 sata drives? |
| [04:46:39] | tjcarter: | clever: the 7 sins are anime names if you're a FMA freak |
| [04:46:49] | clever: | yeah |
| [04:46:54] | clever: | they do overlap at some points |
| [04:47:05] | clever: | and ive seen most of fma dub and all the sub(and the movie) |
| [04:47:31] | tjcarter: | Izumi ftw |
| [04:47:50] | clever: | seen aria? |
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| [04:48:41] | tjcarter: | no |
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| [04:48:50] | clever: | very little action |
| [04:48:53] | clever: | allmost boring |
| [04:49:04] | clever: | but calming music in the bg |
| [04:49:11] | clever: | good to go to sleep to:P |
| [04:49:35] | jams: | vandread was fun |
| [04:49:44] | clever: | hellsing is good too |
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| [04:51:15] | jams: | toku is also good |
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| [04:53:58] | clever: | havent seen either of those |
| [04:55:12] | clever: | there |
| [04:55:16] | clever: | all ssh sessions resumed:) |
| [04:56:13] | clever: | the d630 core2duo is riping thru the transcodes as usual! |
| [04:57:42] | clever: | its allready finished 4 before any other system could finsih 2 |
| [05:01:39] | iamlindoro_: | Tanthrix: If you live near a Fry's, they carry a bunch of "no-name" E-sats boxes like what you're talking about |
| [05:01:43] | iamlindoro_: | er e-sata |
| [05:02:13] | iamlindoro_: | PS, go run my script and update that wiki page ;) |
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| [05:15:48] | m4yh3m: | which nvidia card is better for a myth box 7300le or fx5700 |
| [05:15:58] | m4yh3m: | pref hdtv playback |
| [05:16:14] | m4yh3m: | will be building athlon box with 2gig ram or watever |
| [05:16:36] | iamlindoro_: | They'll both basically perform the same in myth |
| [05:16:55] | iamlindoro_: | 5200 + will work almost identically in myth, since very little GPU acceleration goes on |
| [05:17:15] | iamlindoro_: | and both will be fine for HD |
| [05:17:51] | m4yh3m: | cool, thanks. |
| [05:17:54] | iamlindoro_: | np |
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| [05:30:51] | mzb: | yay! |
| [05:31:17] | mzb: | got my script to create ir remote tables (etc) and now parses an lircd.conf |
| [05:31:58] | mzb: | even with my OLD (test) conf I've got 181 buttons ... and that's only in one room! |
| [05:32:19] | mzb: | (there's a lot more than that to deal with, esp since learning how to do the Sony remote) |
| [05:32:45] | mzb: | either way ... time for a break ... Oh! Look at the time ... must be beer o'clock! |
| [05:34:46] | jams: | mzb whatcha working on? |
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| [05:36:37] | Mythster: | hey guys i need some help.. |
| [05:36:44] | Mythster: | i'm looking at buying an lcd tv |
| [05:36:52] | Mythster: | it does 1080i and all the jazz |
| [05:37:01] | Mythster: | but how will regular broadcast look on it? |
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| [05:38:16] | iamlindoro_: | Myth has fairly good deinterlacers, and better software scalers are on the way too, but it's still 720x480 blown up to 1920x1080 |
| [05:38:28] | iamlindoro_: | SD looks like poop on any HD screen, myth aside |
| [05:38:40] | Mythster: | hmm |
| [05:38:55] | Mythster: | so on my myth box it'll be as good as sd tv can get? |
| [05:38:59] | iamlindoro_: | But that's because SD is shite |
| [05:39:05] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [05:39:19] | mzb_d800: | jams: putting all my receivers, remotes, button and actions into tables. |
| [05:39:22] | iamlindoro_: | Well, depends on how you're getting the SD |
| [05:39:24] | Mythster: | i think i'm gonna by a 27" lcd for $400 |
| [05:39:27] | Mythster: | sound good? |
| [05:39:36] | Mythster: | dvi feed from my myth box to tv |
| [05:39:37] | iamlindoro_: | What brand? |
| [05:39:38] | mzb_d800: | with the idea that I can create new lircd.conf(s) and lircrc's at boot |
| [05:39:42] | Mythster: | well dvi to hdmi |
| [05:39:45] | Mythster: | olivia |
| [05:39:57] | jhulst: | Mythster: That's not going to be 1080i |
| [05:40:01] | jams: | mzb_d800- to recreate config files in case things go wrong? |
| [05:40:04] | iamlindoro_: | Mythster: It should work fine... if you're like me, after a while you'll refuse to keep anything on it that isn't HD, though |
| [05:40:17] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [05:40:19] | iamlindoro_: | well, it'll probably be 720 native thathas a 1080i modeline |
| [05:40:24] | mzb_d800: | jams: no, management of the confs became a nightmare, so this is my solution |
| [05:40:37] | mzb_d800: | jams: I can pastebin the script so far if you like |
| [05:40:39] | Mythster: | i dunno i think this one actually pulls 1080i |
| [05:40:46] | iamlindoro_: | But jhulst is right, the native res is likely to be 1366/768 |
| [05:40:53] | jams: | mzb_d800- sure why not |
| [05:41:06] | Mythster: | as long as it looks better than running my output via svid to my old 32" crt tv i dont care lol |
| [05:41:21] | jhulst: | I looked for a native res set of 1080 for a while, I ended up buying a large monitor instead |
| [05:41:24] | iamlindoro_: | Mythster: http://costlow.zoovy.com/product/OLEVIA327V/S . . . olution.html |
| [05:41:30] | iamlindoro_: | Panel res 1366x768 |
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| [05:41:56] | iamlindoro_: | But still, 720p looks awesome compared to SD |
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| [05:42:15] | Mythster: | well i'm in college |
| [05:42:16] | iamlindoro_: | get 1080p native if you can, but anything is a step up from NTSC |
| [05:42:20] | Mythster: | so for now i think it'll do fine lol |
| [05:42:25] | mzb: | jams: http://openpaste.org/en/4714/ |
| [05:42:33] | mzb: | so to setup you do: |
| [05:42:39] | Mythster: | iamlindoro_, pm? |
| [05:42:50] | iamlindoro_: | send it to the one without the underscore |
| [05:42:56] | iamlindoro_: | iamlindoro |
| [05:42:58] | mzb: | $ ./my_remotes.sh CREATE TABLES |
| [05:43:12] | mzb: | $ ./my_remotes.sh ADD RECEIVER hom$ ./my_remotes.sh ADD RECEIVER homebrew0 localhost /dev/lircd "--driver=devinput --device=/dev/input/dvbremote"ebrew0 localhost /dev/lircd "--driver=devinput --device=/dev/input/dvbremote" |
| [05:43:15] | mzb: | (or similar) |
| [05:43:33] | mzb: | $ ./my_remotes.sh ADD REMOTE homebrew0 localhost /etc/lirc/lircd.conf |
| [05:43:37] | mzb: | (or similar) |
| [05:43:44] | mzb: | DELETE TABLES also works :) |
| [05:43:51] | mzb: | rest is pretty much WIP |
| [05:43:53] | mzb: | bbr |
| [05:43:55] | mzb: | brb |
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| [05:45:20] | mzb: | . |
| [05:45:37] | Mythster: | iamlindoro, i dunno how to do that |
| [05:45:47] | Mythster: | here do u think i should get this on: |
| [05:45:48] | Mythster: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889022053 |
| [05:45:50] | mzb: | oops ... ADD RECEIVER line above should read: |
| [05:46:09] | Mythster: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889022061 |
| [05:46:13] | Mythster: | that one ^ |
| [05:46:34] | mzb: | $ ./my_remotes.sh ADD RECEIVER homebrew0 localhost /dev/lircd "--driver=default --device=/dev/lircd" |
| [05:46:38] | Mythster: | or this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889022042 |
| [05:46:54] | iamlindoro: | Mythster: nothing wrong with that one... almost all LCD panels at that size, regardless of who puts their name on it, are made by LG... they're mostly the same |
| [05:47:13] | mzb: | except for BENQ |
| [05:47:27] | Mythster: | no those are all diff models |
| [05:47:28] | mzb: | (which use Australian-made panels last I checked) |
| [05:47:37] | iamlindoro: | But get the 27", might as well get the extra size and nearly the same price point |
| [05:47:38] | Mythster: | only 1 claims 1080i |
| [05:48:07] | iamlindoro: | They're all 1366x768, you are going to use that as your resolution |
| [05:48:08] | mzb: | ("Australian Made" *obviously* being better;)) |
| [05:48:26] | iamlindoro: | not some arbitrary signal its ATSC tuner can downscale |
| [05:48:38] | iamlindoro: | mzb: Ergo almost all ;) |
| [05:48:38] | mzb: | ah ... LCD TV's ... not LCD's ... I'll pull my head in ;) |
| [05:48:50] | Mythster: | hmm |
| [05:49:11] | Mythster: | so u think quality of picture will be the same thru out? |
| [05:49:45] | iamlindoro: | yup, the panel resolution is all that really matters amongst those three since you're using DVI/HDMI |
| [05:49:54] | mzb: | jams: doesn't actually do anything useful with the data yet ... except putting it into the database ... blown up for you yet? :) |
| [05:49:59] | Mythster: | alright thanks man |
| [05:50:21] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [05:50:27] | Mythster: | does anyone have any clue why all of my arch installs keep getting screwed up |
| [05:50:39] | iamlindoro: | ARGHLinux |
| [05:50:51] | Mythster: | it tells me i have all kinda of conflictions w/ different libs then i delete them and i can update |
| [05:50:56] | jams: | mzb will have to try it tomorrow..but i do have it downloaded |
| [05:50:58] | Mythster: | but then i cant get xworking |
| [05:51:19] | Mythster: | i love arch .. b4 now its just being a whore |
| [05:51:31] | jams: | mzb- what do you plan on doing with the data in the db? |
| [05:51:38] | mzb: | jams: ok ... I'm planning on getting it all going so I'll be updating it. |
| [05:51:55] | jams: | almost bedtime |
| [05:52:29] | mzb: | running a script on each machine that has a receiver to generate lircd.conf (or equivalent) and appropriate lircrc's to match |
| [05:53:03] | mzb: | this is why: loungetv:~# ps ax | grep lirc |
| [05:53:03] | mzb: | 15590 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/local/sbin/lircd --driver=udp --output=/dev/lircd --pidfile=/var/run/lircd.pid --connect=localhost 8700 --connect=localhost 8701 |
| [05:53:03] | mzb: | 15627 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/local/sbin/lircd --driver=default --device=/dev/lirc0 --output=/dev/lircd0 --pidfile=/var/run/lircd0.pid --listen=8700 /tmp/tmp.uAKSv15620 |
| [05:53:03] | mzb: | 15637 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/local/sbin/lircd --driver=devinput --device=/dev/input/dvbremote --output=/dev/lircd1 --pidfile=/var/run/lircd1.pid --listen=8701 /tmp/tmp.UOFBK15634 |
| [05:53:19] | jams: | hehe |
| [05:53:21] | mzb: | and also: |
| [05:54:12] | mzb: | http://www.marcusbrutus.soho.on.net/blog/wp-g . . . d=20381& |
| [05:54:28] | mzb: | which is only ONE "head" of the main frontend |
| [05:54:46] | Mythster: | can you control your tv w/ the usb port they have in the back |
| [05:55:00] | mzb: | the other "head" (using the term loosely) is directly beneath the floor of that TV, in the garage |
| [05:55:05] | Mythster: | i thought i heard you could use the service port when connected to your myth box to turn on and off the tv |
| [05:55:17] | mzb: | so I have two remote receivers (of course;) |
| [05:56:33] | mzb: | it's getting difficult, as I have (guess) >10 remotes in this house ... and as my techniques (and abilities) improve, hand editing lircd.conf's and lircrc's is becoming right painful |
| [05:56:35] | jams: | does that tv have knobs for changing the channels |
| [05:59:34] | mzb: | :) |
| [05:59:49] | mzb: | yes, but I can't walk that far ;) |
| [05:59:53] | mzb: | http://openpaste.org/en/4715/ |
| [06:00:19] | mzb: | loungetv:~# egrep -v "^$|^#" /home/mythtv/.lircrc | wc -l |
| [06:00:20] | mzb: | 1972 |
| [06:00:51] | mzb: | and that's only the beginning (now that I have IR transmitter working (WELL!)) AND worked out the Sony Receiver remote |
| [06:00:58] | Mythster: | hey guys i've been wondering something for a really long time.. |
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| [06:01:32] | Mythster: | whats up w/ some vga/dvi cables having these big circular things at both ends just b4 the actual plug? |
| [06:01:41] | Mythster: | are they inline fuses? |
| [06:01:51] | mzb: | jams: the TV never get's changed (locked on UHF) ... it's fed by the VCR on the right |
| [06:02:02] | Aval0n: | it's amazing how a simple thing like creating jump points on the remote can really improve functionality |
| [06:02:19] | Smirnov: | jump points? |
| [06:02:41] | mzb: | the VCR on the left merely modulates the mythtv frontend (loungetv) for the top TV, and also does video out for the downstairs TV (hence the "dual head" analogy) |
| [06:02:45] | Aval0n: | keybindings |
| [06:02:51] | Smirnov: | does anyone know if its possible to configure the remote to actually fast forward when watching video instead of skip? |
| [06:02:55] | Aval0n: | mythster those are ferite cores |
| [06:03:01] | Aval0n: | they cut down on interference |
| [06:03:07] | mzb: | (it was dual head before ... but I've gone from a 20" CRT to a 48" RPTV) |
| [06:03:13] | Aval0n: | usually they are put on cheaper cables when good shielding is lacking |
| [06:03:20] | Aval0n: | or smaller guage cables |
| [06:03:24] | Aval0n: | gauge* |
| [06:03:33] | Mythster: | whats that mean? |
| [06:03:42] | Aval0n: | whats what mean? |
| [06:03:50] | Mythster: | o sorry |
| [06:03:56] | iamlindoro: | VGA cables are analog, and prone to interference, which makes your image look like shit |
| [06:04:00] | mzb: | thin, cheap, crappy cables with poor shielding |
| [06:04:11] | iamlindoro: | Ferrite cores slightly improve that... but not much |
| [06:04:18] | Aval0n: | yes Ferrite |
| [06:04:28] | Aval0n: | iamlindoro_: has the correct spelling :) |
| [06:04:31] | Mythster: | so should i get a dvi to hdmi w/ or w/o those tings? |
| [06:04:41] | iamlindoro: | meh, spelling, shmelling ;) |
| [06:04:44] | Aval0n: | if it's a short run |
| [06:04:54] | Aval0n: | it probably doesn't matter since it is a digital signal |
| [06:05:05] | iamlindoro: | indeed |
| [06:05:08] | Mythster: | well is 10 ft a long run? |
| [06:05:11] | mzb: | iamlindoro: isn't that schmelling? ;)) |
| [06:05:23] | Aval0n: | if you notice bright pixel dance |
| [06:05:26] | iamlindoro: | mzb, tomato, to-mahto |
| [06:05:29] | mzb: | :)) |
| [06:05:37] | Mythster: | my myth box is prolly only gonna be 3 ft from my tv but in case in the future i wanna keep it sep. i wanted to get 10ft.. is that a wise move? |
| [06:05:38] | Aval0n: | or birght color glittering then replace it |
| [06:05:42] | Aval0n: | if the picture looks good |
| [06:05:45] | Aval0n: | run with it |
| [06:05:47] | mzb: | I raise your tomato with a pickled onion ;P |
| [06:05:59] | Aval0n: | MythLogBot: the simple answer is this |
| [06:06:01] | iamlindoro: | You say war on terror, I say brutal repression and violation of civil rights, let's call the whole thing off |
| [06:06:07] | Aval0n: | MythLogBot: if you have not yet purchased the cable |
| [06:06:13] | Aval0n: | but this one |
| [06:06:14] | Aval0n: | sec |
| [06:06:16] | Aval0n: | buy* |
| [06:06:33] | Smirnov: | iamlindoro: wrong channel ??? |
| [06:06:41] | mzb: | too many fingers, not enough (free) neurones? |
| [06:06:46] | Mythster: | i wanna buy from newegg |
| [06:06:55] | Mythster: | i wanna keep it all coming from the same place |
| [06:06:58] | iamlindoro: | Mythster: I go DVI -> Wall Panel -> 20 feet through the wall ->Wall Panel -> DVI... and not a ferrite core in the bunch... looks great :) |
| [06:07:06] | iamlindoro: | Smirnov: Nope, meant for this channel |
| [06:07:09] | mzb: | (my two are having problems doing over 1rpm) |
| [06:07:14] | iamlindoro: | Must not know that song |
| [06:07:45] | Aval0n: | MythLogBot: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp . . . amp;format=2 |
| [06:07:48] | Aval0n: | edrr |
| [06:07:53] | Aval0n: | that was for you mythster |
| [06:08:01] | Mythster: | ok |
| [06:08:06] | Aval0n: | pfft |
| [06:08:13] | Aval0n: | you won't find a cable like that for that price at newegg |
| [06:08:16] | Mythster: | but i need dvi to hdmi |
| [06:08:24] | Aval0n: | just buy the adapter |
| [06:08:25] | Aval0n: | sec |
| [06:08:28] | Mythster: | hold on |
| [06:08:34] | Mythster: | i'll show you one i'm lookin at |
| [06:09:09] | Aval0n: | http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp . . . amp;format=2 |
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| [06:09:11] | Aval0n: | buy that |
| [06:09:59] | Aval0n: | every cable in my home theatre setup aside from a couple component monster cables is all monoprice |
| [06:10:05] | Aval0n: | top quality cables for cheap man |
| [06:10:10] | Aval0n: | I'm an advocate |
| [06:10:18] | Mythster: | alright |
| [06:10:22] | Mythster: | thanks man |
| [06:10:25] | Aval0n: | yep |
| [06:11:18] | Aval0n: | ok off to bed for me |
| [06:11:27] | Aval0n: | see ya later |
| [06:11:32] | iamlindoro: | Hmmm, is monoprice related to the french company Monoprix? |
| [06:11:37] | iamlindoro: | Must be |
| [06:12:04] | mzb: | or is it "one price suits all" ? |
| [06:12:26] | mzb: | oh dear ... time for a fresh beer! (need to keep my strength up;) |
| [06:12:37] | iamlindoro: | Hmm, must not be related |
| [06:12:45] | iamlindoro: | Same name, different language |
| [06:12:53] | iamlindoro: | Monoprix in France rules the school |
| [06:13:15] | Aval0n: | lol |
| [06:13:49] | Aval0n: | I have two of their 2hdmi wallplate in my 4-gang box |
| [06:13:52] | Aval0n: | they are wonderful |
| [06:13:56] | Aval0n: | perfect for my plasma mount |
| [06:14:01] | iamlindoro: | It's like a super-mega-get-everything-here store in France |
| [06:14:11] | Aval0n: | same thing here |
| [06:14:11] | iamlindoro: | Sort of like Carrefour if you know what that is |
| [06:14:29] | Aval0n: | nope not familiar |
| [06:14:39] | Aval0n: | welp i'm off to bed for real this time |
| [06:14:42] | Aval0n: | I'll ttyl |
| [06:14:42] | Aval0n: | :) |
| [06:14:46] | iamlindoro: | later |
| [06:14:49] | Aval0n: | thanks for you help earlier again imlindoro. |
| [06:14:56] | iamlindoro: | oh no problem |
| [06:15:08] | ** iamlindoro struggles to remember what he did :) ** | |
| [06:15:19] | Aval0n: | mplayer setting |
| [06:15:31] | Aval0n: | for my x264 stuff |
| [06:15:38] | iamlindoro: | ah, ok... yeah. Oh hey, hang on |
| [06:15:41] | iamlindoro: | do me a favor |
| [06:15:47] | Mythster: | mmm should i get a dvi to hdmi convert. then just get a hdmi to hdmi cable? |
| [06:15:51] | Aval0n: | the only weird thing is my screen will fade to black while watching it |
| [06:16:03] | iamlindoro: | Aval0n: Got to this wiki page, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/HD_Playback_Reports |
| [06:16:05] | Aval0n: | MythLogBot: just get that latter cable that I showed ya |
| [06:16:10] | Aval0n: | less converters the better |
| [06:16:15] | Mythster: | ok |
| [06:16:30] | iamlindoro: | paste that script and run it on your Transformers MKV, and either pastebin the output and I'll edit it in, or put it in the wiki yourself |
| [06:17:00] | Aval0n: | ok if I do that tomorrow? |
| [06:17:00] | Aval0n: | :) |
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| [06:17:13] | iamlindoro: | Do what you need to do |
| [06:17:16] | iamlindoro: | no problem |
| [06:17:22] | Aval0n: | hehe |
| [06:17:23] | Aval0n: | cool |
| [06:17:27] | Aval0n: | btw you had me do threads=4 |
| [06:17:31] | Aval0n: | that pages says 2 |
| [06:17:46] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, but it's tuned for lesser systems, 4 is a waste for most |
| [06:17:52] | Aval0n: | dunno if that matters |
| [06:17:57] | iamlindoro: | not really |
| [06:18:01] | Aval0n: | 3.4ghz p4 HT here |
| [06:18:18] | iamlindoro: | for you it all defaults back to 1, probably |
| [06:18:58] | Aval0n: | shit lemme try it real quick |
| [06:19:03] | iamlindoro: | Thanks |
| [06:19:10] | iamlindoro: | It should take you 2 mins or less |
| [06:19:41] | iamlindoro: | paste into filename, chmod + x filename, ./filename Transformers.mkv |
| [06:19:59] | iamlindoro: | tell it what player you use when it asks, and pastebin the output |
| [06:20:12] | Aval0n: | root@htpc:/var/lib/mythtv/videos# more hdreport.txt |
| [06:20:12] | Aval0n: | |- |
| [06:20:12] | Aval0n: | | Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz || 3400.000 MHz || 1035540kB || 2.6.20-16-ge |
| [06:20:12] | Aval0n: | neric || ac3 / mkv || Hz || kb/s || No Comments. || Mplayer |
| [06:20:12] | Aval0n: | |- |
| [06:20:12] | Aval0n: | root@htpc:/var/lib/mythtv/videos# |
| [06:20:16] | Aval0n: | ok |
| [06:20:19] | Aval0n: | pastebin it is lol sorry |
| [06:20:41] | iamlindoro: | gah, it did some funky stuff with that file for sure |
| [06:20:56] | iamlindoro: | ah well, I can complete it from info on the internet, thanks |
| [06:21:09] | Aval0n: | http://pastebin.org/15765 |
| [06:21:16] | iamlindoro: | Aval0n: Thanks |
| [06:21:19] | Aval0n: | yep |
| [06:21:40] | iamlindoro: | night |
| [06:21:54] | Aval0n: | g'night |
| [06:24:30] | iamlindoro: | Oh i see... script doesn't like when the video track isn't the first |
| [06:25:32] | iamlindoro: | This ought to work better... |
| [06:26:35] | iamlindoro: | gah, ffmpeg sucks with MKV... can't even get a bitrate |
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| [06:28:19] | iamlindoro: | and yet I can't think of a better, quick way to get the bitrate on them... Grrr. |
| [06:32:18] | iamlindoro: | Ah-hah!! |
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| [06:42:11] | Mythster: | man this is gonna be so bitchin lol |
| [06:42:22] | Mythster: | 27" lcd connected to my myth box |
| [06:42:33] | Mythster: | 5.1 logitec audio system |
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| [06:45:11] | Tanthrix: | Mine's bigger! |
| [06:45:19] | Mythster: | lol yeah but i'm in college |
| [06:45:23] | Mythster: | and its at the foot of my bed |
| [06:45:25] | Tanthrix: | So am I! |
| [06:45:31] | Mythster: | lol |
| [06:45:35] | Mythster: | how big is yours? |
| [06:45:39] | Mythster: | wow that sounds odd |
| [06:45:40] | Mythster: | lol |
| [06:45:52] | Tanthrix: | That's a personal question... |
| [06:45:54] | Mythster: | haha |
| [06:46:05] | Tanthrix: | 42'' |
| [06:46:08] | Mythster: | how large is your tv |
| [06:46:09] | Mythster: | nice |
| [06:46:15] | Tanthrix: | Split the cost with my GF though, so it wasn't as wallet shattering. |
| [06:46:16] | Mythster: | what distro do u run on your myth system? |
| [06:46:24] | Mythster: | o |
| [06:46:30] | Tanthrix: | Mandrake originally, then switched to Arch Linux |
| [06:46:35] | Mythster: | nice.. |
| [06:46:38] | Mythster: | i'm doing arch right now |
| [06:46:44] | Mythster: | well trying.. having alot of probs now |
| [06:46:49] | Mythster: | b4 it'd go on no problem at all |
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| [06:46:59] | Mythster: | for some reason its being a tich now.. i think its the new xorg |
| [06:47:06] | Mythster: | i have an older disk too :-\ |
| [06:47:19] | Tanthrix: | It takes a bit more work to get everything working, but I still think it's easier to use than Ubuntu and the like, since you end up with a better idea of what's going on. |
| [06:47:30] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [06:47:42] | Tanthrix: | What issues are you having? |
| [06:47:47] | Mythster: | plus i was using mythbuntu and the damn thing would just give me the pink screen of death |
| [06:47:57] | Mythster: | then my tuner would not work anymore on that install |
| [06:48:15] | Mythster: | mmm arch wise it was having conflictions w/ a bunch of libs |
| [06:48:18] | Mythster: | dunon why |
| [06:48:22] | Mythster: | just deleted them lol |
| [06:48:29] | Mythster: | then it did the system update no prob |
| [06:48:40] | Mythster: | i only reinstalled the ones i need and it seems ok so far |
| [06:48:50] | Tanthrix: | Good. |
| [06:49:08] | Mythster: | yeah.. just dunno why tho |
| [06:49:13] | Mythster: | its never done that b4 |
| [06:49:17] | Mythster: | its gotta me the new xorg |
| [06:49:22] | Tanthrix: | Did you compile from source, or install from binaries? |
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| [06:49:35] | Mythster: | mmm i dunno lol |
| [06:49:57] | Mythster: | off the cd for the base then using pacmans reps for the rest |
| [06:50:21] | Tanthrix: | That would be binaries then. As opposed to downloading the mythtv source, compiling, then installing from there. |
| [06:50:33] | Mythster: | oh i havent gotten that far yet |
| [06:50:36] | Mythster: | just now installing the OS |
| [06:50:45] | Mythster: | what would you suggest for myth tho? |
| [06:50:48] | Tanthrix: | Gotcha. |
| [06:50:56] | Mythster: | i've seen on the arch wiki that they have a myth how to |
| [06:51:20] | Tanthrix: | Well, I always compile myth from source, just on account that it's so insanely huge, and I hate having to deal with packages that expect very specific libraries and don't work without them. |
| [06:51:34] | Tanthrix: | But, you've got nothing to lose by doing it via pacman. It might Just Work. |
| [06:51:42] | Tanthrix: | Can always uninstall and do source if you have issue. |
| [06:51:53] | Mythster: | yeah thats tru |
| [06:52:00] | Mythster: | i wanna set slackware 12 up too |
| [06:52:04] | Mythster: | so i have a back up |
| [06:52:16] | Mythster: | and i know slack much better tho i know arch pretty inside and out too |
| [06:52:48] | Mythster: | slackware is just stable period |
| [06:52:56] | Mythster: | and arch is always bleeding edge |
| [06:53:03] | Mythster: | figure it'll be a nice combo |
| [06:53:22] | Tanthrix: | I don't know about that – seems like a hell of a lot of complexity and work to dual boot with a mythtv system. |
| [06:53:26] | Mythster: | u use xine or mplayer for your myth? |
| [06:53:36] | Mythster: | na |
| [06:53:40] | Mythster: | i dual boot all my pcs |
| [06:53:58] | Mythster: | i have tri boot on my main desktop (this machine) and my laptop |
| [06:54:07] | Mythster: | winxp, arch, and slackware |
| [06:54:19] | Tanthrix: | I specifically meant with regards to sharing a database between the two for myth. |
| [06:54:24] | Mythster: | well no slack on the laptop.. only ubuntu.. needed a quick fix once |
| [06:54:35] | Mythster: | it wont |
| [06:54:53] | Mythster: | well it will but wont |
| [06:55:06] | Mythster: | i'm just using my xternal as a place to drop the data |
| [06:55:25] | Mythster: | but i'm still not 100% sure on slack |
| [06:55:31] | Mythster: | if arch works flawlessly i |
| [06:55:37] | Mythster: | I'll prolly just use it |
| [06:55:44] | Tanthrix: | Yah. |
| [06:55:47] | Mythster: | u have a remote on your system? |
| [06:55:53] | Tanthrix: | And to answer your question, I use mplayer. |
| [06:56:03] | Mythster: | ok |
| [06:56:04] | Tanthrix: | For my remote, I use a MCE reciever and remote that I grabbed on ebay. |
| [06:56:13] | Mythster: | thats kool |
| [06:56:15] | Mythster: | work well? |
| [06:56:28] | Tanthrix: | Aye. I do use xine for dvds though. |
| [06:56:40] | Mythster: | thats weird lol |
| [06:56:50] | Mythster: | why not use the 1 for everything? |
| [06:57:41] | Tanthrix: | Xine has better menu support. |
| [06:58:14] | Tanthrix: | At least, it did. I know they've added / been trying to add menu support to mplayer. Haven't checked the status recently. |
| [06:59:03] | Mythster: | yeah but why not use xine for playback too |
| [06:59:19] | Mythster: | i just wanna know why so i can make educated decisions for my system |
| [07:00:02] | Tanthrix: | Well, for the rest of the stuff, I just like mplayer better, and I'm more used to it. |
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| [07:00:43] | Mythster: | ok |
| [07:02:42] | Mythster: | man i just bought it all lol |
| [07:02:50] | Mythster: | tv, dvi to hdmi cable.. |
| [07:02:53] | Mythster: | ahhh lol |
| [07:02:55] | Mythster: | feels good |
| [07:06:02] | Mythster: | hey man u there? |
| [07:06:37] | Mythster: | Tanthrix, i've installed xorg, gnome & extra, base.. anything else i need? |
| [07:06:37] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:06:46] | Mythster: | any other big thing b4 trying the myth install? |
| [07:07:12] | Tanthrix: | I'd lose gnome for a myth system. Something with less overhead is better. |
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| [07:07:38] | Mythster: | i thought about that but i figured for now i'd use gnome then change it out later |
| [07:07:45] | Mythster: | i just want gnome for now to operate in |
| [07:07:54] | Mythster: | once i get it on the box prolly use xfc |
| [07:10:14] | iamlindoro: | fryfrog: Still round? |
| [07:10:32] | Mythster: | iamlindoro, i did it.. |
| [07:10:39] | Mythster: | i bought that tv and cable lol |
| [07:10:42] | iamlindoro: | Wht, bought your TV? |
| [07:10:44] | Mythster: | i am now 450 less lol |
| [07:10:46] | iamlindoro: | er what |
| [07:10:49] | iamlindoro: | Oh, congrats! |
| [07:10:51] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:10:54] | iamlindoro: | and 720p more ;) |
| [07:11:00] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:11:01] | Mythster: | tru |
| [07:11:09] | iamlindoro: | that's like 370 better or something |
| [07:11:14] | Mythster: | well its supposed to be 1080i ;) |
| [07:11:15] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:11:16] | Mythster: | tru |
| [07:11:26] | Mythster: | u think myth will look good on it? |
| [07:11:32] | Mythster: | i'd assume it would |
| [07:11:35] | iamlindoro: | Yes, myth looks good on my 720p |
| [07:11:42] | iamlindoro: | but better on my 1080p ;) |
| [07:11:47] | Mythster: | haha |
| [07:11:59] | Mythster: | well i figured i'm in college.. better wait till i'm a real engineer |
| [07:12:00] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:12:11] | Mythster: | tho i gotta admit.. this firm i'm working for is paying pretty well |
| [07:12:41] | Mythster: | in oct i bought an 04 grand cherokee |
| [07:12:42] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:13:00] | Tanthrix: | Myth looks like junk at 1080P! Damned themes aren't big enough, due to someone's great idea of making the graphics for wide screen themes top ou at 720p. That's some futureproofing there, that is! |
| [07:13:36] | Mythster: | lol try any other themes? |
| [07:13:39] | iamlindoro: | Pffft, I'm watchin Tv on my box, not staring at themes ;) |
| [07:13:42] | Mythster: | or just using the defaults |
| [07:13:44] | Tanthrix: | They're all 720p. |
| [07:13:46] | Mythster: | haha |
| [07:13:51] | Tanthrix: | Scaled up when necessary. |
| [07:13:55] | Mythster: | that is true |
| [07:14:04] | Mythster: | yeah but i'll be watching tv |
| [07:14:05] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:14:22] | Tanthrix: | The text is nice and crisp though, which is what really matters. |
| [07:15:02] | Mythster: | cross my legs and hope it reboots w/ a gui |
| [07:15:03] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:15:14] | Mythster: | ... installing arch |
| [07:15:14] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:15:41] | Mythster: | oh snap |
| [07:15:45] | Mythster: | its a glorious thing |
| [07:16:06] | Mythster: | there is a jesus.. it works |
| [07:16:07] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:16:28] | Mythster: | how does the desktop alone look at 720p? |
| [07:16:51] | Mythster: | can you actually read your font and stuff as i will be using the web once in a while to watch movies off joox.net |
| [07:18:13] | Mythster: | also how do you get the specific res that the tv wants.. or can you use a generic 16:9 |
| [07:18:48] | Mythster: | I have a beefy graphix card 256mb |
| [07:19:24] | Tanthrix: | Ram is irrelevent mainly, unless you're doing 3d stuff. |
| [07:19:46] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [07:19:52] | Tanthrix: | And since your set is probably 1366x768, you probably don't get to specify a res that the TV wants. ;) |
| [07:20:17] | Mythster: | yeah but could i tweak my xorg to feed it out? |
| [07:20:45] | Mythster: | i know i've re-written xorgs in the past to force 1280x1024 when they didnt want to |
| [07:21:12] | Mythster: | one older pc i had the graphix card wasnt supposed to go that high but i managed |
| [07:21:19] | Mythster: | and this card will do about any thing you want |
| [07:21:20] | Tanthrix: | Sometimes. It depends on the TV. |
| [07:21:26] | Tanthrix: | Not the video card. |
| [07:21:50] | Mythster: | alot of ppl on the reviews said they were running it as a monitor for pc pvrs |
| [07:22:51] | Tanthrix: | You're Mythbox, aren't you? |
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| [07:23:46] | iamlindoro_: | Mythbox and Friendster had a baby... and this is him |
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| [07:24:41] | Mythster: | i dunno we'll see |
| [07:24:41] | Mythster: | but when i first plug it into my tv what res should i try using? |
| [07:24:41] | Mythster: | i dont wanna fuck anything up here lol |
| [07:24:52] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [07:25:16] | Tanthrix: | Yah, we spoke previously about this. Basically just let the card autoselect, and see how it turns out. |
| [07:25:30] | Mythster: | i got tired of ppl sayin mythbox talking about the pc and it highlighting |
| [07:25:42] | Mythster: | ok |
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| [07:26:16] | Mythster: | no chance of it doing damage tho right? |
| [07:26:25] | Tanthrix: | Hehe, I can see how that could be a problem ;) |
| [07:26:28] | Tanthrix: | And no, not a chance. |
| [07:26:32] | Mythster: | sweet |
| [07:26:42] | Mythster: | sorry.. new to this whole thing lol |
| [07:26:51] | Mythster: | end of dec i decided i needed a mythbox |
| [07:26:52] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:27:17] | Mythster: | so i went on ebay.. bought a pc .. older dell p4 2.26ghz 512mb ddr |
| [07:27:28] | Mythster: | and a dvico fusion hdtv 3 gold T |
| [07:27:33] | Mythster: | pretty nice card |
| [07:28:04] | Mythster: | i've also got a 500g portable hdd linked w/ usb2.0 but trying to get esata |
| [07:30:16] | Mythster: | hey what gstreamer should i use? |
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| [07:31:20] | iamlindoro: | Myth doesn't use gstreamer |
| [07:31:42] | Mythster: | no i mean for my actual sound for my pc.. said something about missing gstreamer |
| [07:31:48] | Mythster: | should i just run alsaconf |
| [07:32:12] | iamlindoro: | I couldn't say... I'm not sure what error message you saw |
| [07:32:47] | Mythster: | No volume control GStreamer plugins and or device found |
| [07:32:59] | iamlindoro: | no idea |
| [07:33:07] | iamlindoro: | |
| [07:34:44] | Mythster: | maybe i shouldnt have done such a stream line install lol |
| [07:35:20] | iamlindoro: | fryfrog: If you're logging, got the script updated to give MKV bitrates (well, I calculate them in the script). If you want to get the bitrate for your file, the new script ought to do it |
| [07:35:25] | Mythster: | i got it |
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| [07:39:38] | Mythster: | iamlindoro, arch is nice lol |
| [07:39:41] | Mythster: | i dont care what you say lol |
| [07:39:57] | Mythster: | its soooooo easy to trouble shoot |
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| [07:45:00] | ** Tanthrix watches his "lol' meter explode into a fiery ball of death ** | |
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| [07:48:16] | Tanthrix: | And I just had it repaired. Look what you did Mythster! |
| [07:49:01] | iamlindoro: | Mythster: I have a feeling Tanthrix agrees with me about ArghLinux |
| [07:49:40] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro: On the contrary my friend. I switched to Archlinux from Mandrake about a year ago, and I've been loving it ever since. |
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| [07:50:12] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:50:24] | Mythster: | haha |
| [07:50:25] | iamlindoro: | Feh, I don't care, I don't have to run it |
| [07:50:43] | Mythster: | haha |
| [07:50:46] | Mythster: | its great man |
| [07:50:58] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro: Have problems with it, I take it? |
| [07:50:59] | Mythster: | i couldnt get something figured out.. arch wiki'd it and bango |
| [07:51:02] | Tanthrix: | Rather, had. |
| [07:51:02] | iamlindoro: | But *you*, Tanthrix, you need to go run my script and add to the wiki: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/HD_Playback_Reports |
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| [07:51:43] | Mythster: | i have to get myth up and going first :-x |
| [07:52:09] | iamlindoro: | Mythster, huh? |
| [07:53:09] | Mythster: | i dont have myth up and goin on this box |
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| [07:53:14] | Mythster: | i just installed arch |
| [07:53:16] | Mythster: | still configuring it |
| [07:53:23] | Mythster: | i did a complete bare bones install |
| [07:53:28] | iamlindoro: | Wasn't talking to you, ergo the "Tanthrix" in the sentence |
| [07:53:49] | Mythster: | oook |
| [07:53:49] | Mythster: | gs |
| [07:53:50] | Mythster: | lol |
| [07:53:56] | Mythster: | ergo, asshole lol jk |
| [07:54:26] | Mythster: | whats the easiest way to have your volumes preset at login? |
| [07:55:16] | iamlindoro: | amixer, probably |
| [07:55:40] | at0m|c: | Mythster, "alsactl store" will make it remember |
| [07:55:50] | Mythster: | alright thanks |
| [07:56:03] | Mythster: | that or i could run the script, amixer set Master 90% unmute , at login right? |
| [07:56:17] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [07:56:25] | at0m|c: | Mythster, alsactl can take care of that |
| [07:56:35] | Mythster: | yeah i'm reading it right now |
| [07:56:38] | Mythster: | i got it thanks man |
| [07:56:45] | Mythster: | just but it in the rc.conf right? |
| [07:57:17] | Mythster: | add alsa to daemons |
| [07:57:36] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro_: What is mkvtools part of? |
| [07:57:40] | Tanthrix: | Er, mkvinfo |
| [07:57:56] | iamlindoro: | mkvtoolnix |
| [07:57:59] | Mythster: | how can i tell if its actually going to use my 5.1 ? |
| [07:58:27] | Mythster: | amixer only talks about front L&R audio |
| [07:58:45] | ** Tanthrix grabs it with pacman, just to annoy iamlindoro ** | |
| [07:59:05] | iamlindoro: | Don't kno why that would annoy me |
| [07:59:05] | iamlindoro: | er know |
| [07:59:07] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
| [07:59:16] | iamlindoro: | unless you install it on my mythbox hehe |
| [07:59:43] | iamlindoro: | Tanthrix: If you can, run it on whatever video puches your machine hardest |
| [07:59:48] | iamlindoro: | er pushes |
| [07:59:53] | iamlindoro: | my fingers have gone stupid |
| [07:59:57] | Tanthrix: | Syntrax error near unexpected token 'newline' ! |
| [08:00:33] | iamlindoro: | huh? (goes to paste it out of the wiki himself) |
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| [08:01:02] | iamlindoro: | hmmm, works here ok |
| [08:01:16] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro: My bad. Wrapped part of it when I copied it into the terminal. |
| [08:01:27] | iamlindoro: | oh. Whew! :) |
| [08:02:15] | ** at0m|c wonders if the built-in player does .mkv files ** | |
| [08:02:30] | at0m|c: | how would i addthe mkv file-type? |
| [08:02:42] | at0m|c: | oops found it |
| [08:02:52] | iamlindoro: | it will play them, but skipping/seeking is broken badly |
| [08:03:08] | iamlindoro: | better to leave in mpayer if you intend to jump around at all |
| [08:03:11] | iamlindoro: | mplayer |
| [08:03:27] | at0m|c: | oki, cheers |
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| [08:05:59] | Tanthrix: | Something isn't working right – not getting a resolution, just skips it. |
| [08:06:22] | iamlindoro: | ffmpeg -i filename and just dump it in manually |
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| [08:09:02] | Tanthrix: | Everything I have is 720p x264, and all of it plays fine. 1080p x264 single threaded fails, yet if I could do multi-threaded I'm pretty sure it would work. |
| [08:09:42] | iamlindoro: | Tanthrix: Do you have mplayer compiled with multithreading? You can try mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv -monitoraspect 16:9 -lavdopts threads=2:fast:skiploopfilter=all -sws 0 %s |
| [08:09:56] | iamlindoro: | That skips all filters and uses multiple threads if available |
| [08:10:15] | iamlindoro: | Where %s = filename, of course |
| [08:11:40] | Mythster: | hey what all codecs and shit are there that i need |
| [08:11:44] | iamlindoro: | And if that plays, then use that as your baseline for the wiki, as obviously we want to show people as close as we can to the maximum of what the hardware is capable of |
| [08:11:44] | Tanthrix: | Well it confirm multi-threaded mplayback? The command worked, but it still looks single threaded to me |
| [08:12:04] | iamlindoro: | It will dump back to 1 if not available or if the file isn't encoded to support it |
| [08:12:13] | iamlindoro: | But no feedback, no |
| [08:12:16] | Tanthrix: | The file has to be encoded to support it? |
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| [08:12:25] | iamlindoro: | Yup |
| [08:13:02] | Tanthrix: | Well, that's surprisingly useless. |
| [08:13:38] | iamlindoro: | Anyway, just use whatever maxes out your system as you've got it right now but still plays smoothly |
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| [08:14:27] | iamlindoro: | you can pastebin it and I'll drop it in if you don't have a wiki account, or put it in yourself |
| [08:15:20] | Mythster: | whats that win32 or something pack of codecs? |
| [08:15:43] | iamlindoro: | w32codecs |
| [08:16:00] | Mythster: | sweet thanks |
| [08:16:15] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [08:17:38] | Mythster: | oh strike one up for arch |
| [08:17:48] | Mythster: | all the codecs you need in 1 package lol |
| [08:18:06] | Mythster: | and the name is easy to remember too, codecs |
| [08:18:07] | Mythster: | lol |
| [08:18:29] | purserj: | as opposed to win32codecs? |
| [08:18:38] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro: Done. |
| [08:18:46] | Mythster: | it has win32, real and quick |
| [08:19:03] | iamlindoro: | Tanthrix: Perfect, thanks |
| [08:19:22] | Tanthrix: | No prob. Now tell me why you don't like the wonderfully simple distro that is arch linux? ;) |
| [08:19:57] | Mythster: | lol i dunno Tanthrix i think they're crazy |
| [08:20:00] | Mythster: | its freakin awesome |
| [08:20:30] | iamlindoro: | Tanthrix: It's OT, feel free to like your distro, and I will use mine :) |
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| [08:20:56] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro: Nothing is on topic here, most of the time. |
| [08:21:07] | Mythster: | xine now has lirc support |
| [08:21:11] | Mythster: | hmm |
| [08:21:23] | iamlindoro: | When did it not? |
| [08:21:28] | Mythster: | i dint know it did |
| [08:21:38] | iamlindoro: | ah |
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| [08:22:37] | iamlindoro: | anyway, off to bed, night all |
| [08:22:55] | Mythster: | night man |
| [08:22:59] | Mythster: | thanks for all the help |
| [08:23:00] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro_: One sec. |
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| [08:23:19] | iamlindoro: | Mythster: No problem |
| [08:23:25] | iamlindoro: | Tanthrix: Hm? |
| [08:23:30] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro: Quick question – do the files have to be specially encoded as a cheat? (IE, they are encoded in 4 quadrants that are separate) |
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| [08:23:50] | Tanthrix: | Then each quadrant gets decoded like it is its own x264 frame |
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| [08:24:26] | iamlindoro: | Tanthrix: I honestly don't know too much about it, only learned about it very recently myself, but I'm told if the h.264 isn't encoded in "slices," then it cannot take advantage of multithreading |
| [08:24:39] | Tanthrix: | Hrm. |
| [08:24:43] | iamlindoro: | Tanthrix: Now, whether that's a limitation of the open-source decoder or of h.264 in general, I really don't know |
| [08:24:55] | iamlindoro: | I suspect probably the former |
| [08:25:06] | Tanthrix: | That's my thought as well |
| [08:25:19] | Tanthrix: | I don't think CoreAVC for instance has that limitation – it works on anything |
| [08:25:26] | Tanthrix: | Though, I hear it has quality issues |
| [08:25:49] | Mythster: | hey i have a ?.. what all groups do i need to be in by default |
| [08:26:10] | iamlindoro: | Tanthrix: Yeah, and I think it's limited to 32-bit only in linux |
| [08:26:23] | iamlindoro: | Tanthrix: This isn't much info, but may inform a bit: http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1289969 |
| [08:26:41] | Tanthrix: | Thanks, I'll give it a read. |
| [08:26:45] | Tanthrix: | Night. |
| [08:26:52] | iamlindoro: | night |
| [08:28:11] | Mythster: | Tanthrix, i need some help if you can man |
| [08:29:50] | Tanthrix: | Sure. |
| [08:30:09] | Mythster: | i can't seem to get xine to play a dvd.. i think it has to do w/ permission levels |
| [08:30:19] | Mythster: | what all groups should my user be in? |
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| [08:31:05] | Tanthrix: | Not sure to be honest. |
| [08:31:13] | directhex: | do you have libdvdcss2? |
| [08:31:21] | Mythster: | i think hold on |
| [08:31:38] | Tanthrix: | I only play ISOs that I've ripped on my other machine, not the actual drive |
| [08:31:51] | Mythster: | hmm |
| [08:32:02] | Mythster: | says libdvdcss2 cant be found by pacman |
| [08:32:16] | Mythster: | i have libdvdcss tho |
| [08:32:31] | directhex: | does anything else play commercial dvds happily? |
| [08:33:04] | Mythster: | nope |
| [08:33:17] | Mythster: | i bet its a group issue |
| [08:34:12] | Mythster: | is there a gui tool for managing groups? lol |
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| [08:34:54] | Mythster: | yeah as root it will play no prob |
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| [08:35:09] | Mythster: | but not w/ my user |
| [08:35:12] | Mythster: | motha fucka |
| [08:35:13] | Mythster: | lol |
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| [08:38:30] | clever: | MythMusic requires CDDA Paranoia. |
| [08:38:51] | Mythster: | holy shit haha |
| [08:38:57] | Mythster: | my 5.1 sounds amazing |
| [08:38:59] | clever: | libcdio-cdda-dev is already the newest version. |
| [08:39:00] | clever: | cant build mythmusic:S |
| [08:39:01] | Mythster: | hats off to arch linux |
| [08:39:40] | clever: | 'id' is usefull to see what group your in |
| [08:39:44] | directhex: | for setting stupid default permissions? |
| [08:40:41] | justinh: | bit early round here for that kind of effing language I must say |
| [08:40:56] | clever: | fixed it:) |
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| [08:44:30] | directhex: | hm, cdparanoia you say? that should please justinh |
| [08:44:54] | clever: | damn root squash |
| [08:45:07] | clever: | makeinstall lacked perm as root! |
| [08:45:22] | sid3windr: | perm.. ehh |
| [08:45:43] | directhex: | right, to work! |
| [08:45:51] | justinh: | clever: I hope you're documenting all this on a blog somewhere :P I mean docs are no use unless they're on some blog in the back of beyond |
| [08:46:01] | Mythster: | how bad would it b to log my mythtv in on root lol |
| [08:46:03] | clever: | lol |
| [08:46:10] | Mythster: | it'd fix al my probs lol |
| [08:46:11] | Mythster: | haha |
| [08:46:21] | Mythster: | how can i control my 5.1 audio |
| [08:46:26] | Mythster: | volume wiz |
| [08:46:30] | Mythster: | wise* |
| [08:46:46] | Mythster: | master doesnt control overal valume |
| [08:46:48] | justinh: | you can't |
| [08:46:49] | Mythster: | volume* |
| [08:47:01] | Mythster: | son of a bitch |
| [08:47:02] | Mythster: | lol |
| [08:47:05] | Mythster: | are you sure? |
| [08:47:07] | Mythster: | lol |
| [08:47:08] | justinh: | positive |
| [08:47:14] | clever: | 2008-01–17 04:47:06.458 Unable to initialize plugin 'mythgame'. |
| [08:47:15] | clever: | damnit |
| [08:47:18] | clever: | didnt rebuild enough |
| [08:47:20] | Mythster: | hmm |
| [08:47:39] | justinh: | AC3 & DTS audio streams are compressed, so you'd have to uncompress them, do the volume operation on em & reencode them |
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| [08:48:10] | justinh: | use your AV receiver to control the volume of digital sources :) |
| [08:48:11] | Mythster: | damn it |
| [08:48:15] | clever: | but there may be tags in the mpeg frames to tell the decoder at the end to addjust the volume |
| [08:48:28] | justinh: | not in 5.1 audio I don't think |
| [08:48:31] | clever: | saw some talk of that in here yesterday |
| [08:48:59] | justinh: | 5.1 just gets passed straight through to spdif, end of story |
| [08:48:59] | clever: | and you can allways tie your ir receiver to the ir blaster to blast the stereo in responce to the myth remote |
| [08:49:01] | sn9: | ok, time to see whether this iLap thing really works... |
| [08:49:20] | Mythster: | blast |
| [08:50:33] | justinh: | Mythster: if you already have a remote to turn the surround sound on, it's not that inconvenient |
| [08:50:45] | Mythster: | i dont |
| [08:50:53] | justinh: | eew nasty |
| [08:51:02] | Mythster: | currently i'm just using my pc sound system |
| [08:51:07] | clever: | ive been thinking of how to blast my tv on from the myth remote |
| [08:51:07] | ** justinh barfs ** | |
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| [08:51:10] | Mythster: | my logitech system |
| [08:51:25] | clever: | but id need to atleast patch my lirc to be able to use the pvr150 blaster |
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| [08:51:49] | sn9: | clever: if you're not using knoppmyth, yes |
| [08:51:57] | clever: | using ubuntu here |
| [08:52:05] | clever: | been too lazy to dig for the patch |
| [08:52:16] | sn9: | clever: one second... |
| [08:52:19] | justinh: | ffs. after all you've done, patching lirc is a big deal?! |
| [08:52:19] | clever: | :) |
| [08:52:26] | clever: | lol |
| [08:53:08] | clever: | 0.8.1 here |
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| [08:53:29] | sn9: | clever: http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=24 |
| [08:53:34] | clever: | thanks |
| [08:54:32] | clever: | lol |
| [08:54:35] | clever: | been there allready:P |
| [08:54:51] | clever: | i'll reread it |
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| [08:57:00] | Mythster: | what is xinerama |
| [08:57:25] | sn9: | Mythster: dual-head extension |
| [08:57:33] | Mythster: | whats that mean lol |
| [08:57:36] | Mythster: | i'm stupid |
| [08:58:02] | sn9: | one computer, two screens, showing different things at once |
| [08:58:09] | Mythster: | ooo |
| [08:58:25] | Mythster: | i have dual monitors but they're using "twinview" |
| [08:58:28] | sn9: | or three screens, or more |
| [08:58:30] | Mythster: | not sep x 's |
| [08:58:35] | Mythster: | yeah |
| [08:58:49] | sn9: | no, it's a single X split over many screens |
| [08:58:52] | Mythster: | right now i have 1 mon on my desktop and 1 on the myth box |
| [08:58:59] | Mythster: | oo |
| [08:59:02] | Mythster: | ok |
| [08:59:16] | sn9: | "mirroring" is the same stuff on two screens |
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| [09:00:15] | clever: | i have 1 X over 2 screens with xinemara off |
| [09:00:21] | clever: | so :0.0 and :0.1 are my screens |
| [09:00:38] | Mythster: | same here |
| [09:00:42] | Mythster: | well when i have them both on |
| [09:00:53] | sn9: | yes, xinerama is not required, but it is an extension for doing that |
| [09:01:24] | clever: | with it on you have everything under :0.0 |
| [09:01:33] | clever: | so you can move windows between screens without trouble |
| [09:01:33] | sn9: | right |
| [09:01:48] | clever: | but forcing something like myth to fullscreen on the tv is more work for the lazy:P |
| [09:02:06] | clever: | without it i can just DISPLAY=:0.1 and im done |
| [09:02:18] | clever: | and i can allways :0.0 to get it on the crt if the tv is in use |
| [09:02:26] | sn9: | yes, myth is better off without xinerama |
| [09:02:29] | Mythster: | well guys i gotta hit the hay |
| [09:02:37] | Mythster: | have a good night and thanks for all the help |
| [09:02:38] | sn9: | hey hay |
| [09:02:50] | Mythster: | lol |
| [09:02:53] | Mythster: | thanks for the help again |
| [09:02:58] | clever: | ive been on the hay for hours:P |
| [09:03:03] | clever: | damnit |
| [09:03:04] | clever: | its 5am now:P |
| [09:03:15] | sn9: | only 1 am here |
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| [09:03:35] | sn9: | new brunswick? |
| [09:04:10] | clever: | yep |
| [09:04:13] | sn9: | i don't know any other place in canada where it's 5am now |
| [09:04:23] | clever: | pei and ns are also in this timezone |
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| [09:04:28] | sn9: | ah |
| [09:04:31] | clever: | most people assume im in the middle of an ocean |
| [09:04:40] | clever: | they dont know land goes this far east |
| [09:05:02] | sn9: | what tz is labrador in now? |
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| [09:05:22] | sn9: | i know it moved several times |
| [09:05:26] | clever: | i think its gmt-x:30 |
| [09:05:40] | clever: | off by something and 30mins |
| [09:05:57] | sn9: | NF is, but labrador? |
| [09:06:15] | clever: | dont pay attention to it much |
| [09:06:25] | clever: | google knows though! |
| [09:06:47] | clever: | . |
| [09:07:05] | sn9: | i guess my bday has been over for an hour now... |
| [09:07:15] | clever: | !age |
| [09:07:16] | clever: | I am 20.824439 years old. (I'll be 21 in 9wks 1day 20hrs 54mins 41secs.) |
| [09:07:28] | sn9: | you have an age bot? |
| [09:07:40] | clever: | its a script i made awhile ago |
| [09:07:44] | clever: | normaly triggered thru /age |
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| [09:21:09] | clever: | livetv isnt starting |
| [09:21:15] | clever: | just times out |
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| [09:38:40] | KaZeR: | is there a tool to find 'orphaned' recordings? |
| [09:39:06] | KaZeR: | i have some .mpg files in my mythtv directory, whoses are older than the older show i can see in mythweb.. |
| [09:39:11] | clever: | myth.find_orphans.pl i think |
| [09:39:12] | Dibblah: | KaZeR: Yes, look in contrib. |
| [09:39:16] | clever: | in the contrib folder |
| [09:39:23] | KaZeR: | thanks guys |
| [09:39:32] | clever: | Dibblah: any idea whats wrong with my livetv? |
| [09:39:45] | clever: | 2008-01–17 05:39:40.567 MythSocket(839f310:22): readStringList: Error, timeout (quick). |
| [09:40:07] | Dibblah: | How did you break it? ;) |
| [09:40:19] | clever: | i installed a patched lirc |
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| [09:40:31] | clever: | but that doesnt appear to be related at all |
| [09:41:04] | clever: | the lirc on the master got upgraded and is tuning without a problem |
| [09:41:06] | Dibblah: | Roll back that change, then. |
| [09:41:09] | clever: | 2008-01–17 05:40:10.551 External Tuning program exited with no error |
| [09:41:23] | clever: | then the client constantly times out |
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| [09:42:45] | KaZeR: | mmm. any tip about the script name i should look after? |
| [09:42:56] | clever: | 17 05:39:11 < clever> myth.find_orphans.pl i think |
| [09:43:15] | clever: | Dibblah: roling the lirc version back hasnt fixed it |
| [09:43:17] | KaZeR: | oh sorry didn't saw that |
| [09:44:13] | KaZeR: | doesn't seem to be shipped with gentoo. i'm googling |
| [09:44:40] | Dibblah: | KaZeR: Try /usr/share/mythtv/... |
| [09:44:52] | clever: | Dibblah: livetv still not starting:S |
| [09:45:04] | KaZeR: | yes, /usr/share/mythtv/contrib. i have other ones, but not orphaned |
| [09:45:20] | KaZeR: | mkiconmap.pl myth_archive_job.pl mythmaillog.pl myth.rebuilddatabase.pl optimize_mythdb.pl trailer.pl |
| [09:45:21] | KaZeR: | mplayernetwork.pl mythencode.pl mythname.pl mythrename.pl osx-packager.pl |
| [09:45:28] | clever: | mythtvbuild/mythtv/contrib/myth.find_orphans.pl |
| [09:45:28] | Dibblah: | clever: Sorry – No real idea. Find and revert the change that broke it. Reboot, etc... |
| [09:45:38] | sn9: | anybody have an opinion on the coolermaster 260 case? i just picked one up |
| [09:45:44] | clever: | only other thing i did was an svn update |
| [09:45:47] | sn9: | i need a riser for it |
| [09:45:50] | clever: | and playback of recordings still works |
| [09:46:11] | KaZeR: | clever, mind to share you .pl ? |
| [09:46:21] | clever: | its on the trac site |
| [09:46:35] | clever: | svn.mythtv.org |
| [09:47:13] | KaZeR: | ok thanks |
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| [09:51:40] | Mythster: | hey anyone know I can tell how my pc is identifying my esata hdd? |
| [09:51:53] | clever: | weee |
| [09:51:56] | clever: | kernel bug |
| [09:52:03] | Mythster: | i have the UUID |
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| [09:52:13] | Mythster: | is it just /dev/(UUID HERE) |
| [09:52:42] | clever: | its /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
| [09:53:00] | clever: | but most progs also access UUID=IDHERE |
| [09:53:12] | Mythster: | so say my uuid is 478E-91AD |
| [09:53:19] | KaZeR: | clever, works. thanks |
| [09:53:22] | Mythster: | how would the beginning of my fstab look like |
| [09:53:22] | clever: | :) |
| [09:53:31] | clever: | UUID=478E-.... |
| [09:53:40] | Mythster: | no dev |
| [09:53:44] | clever: | nope |
| [09:53:48] | opentrinity: | hola * |
| [09:53:51] | KaZeR: | 112.4GB freed. nice |
| [09:53:56] | clever: | ouch |
| [09:54:06] | Mythster: | just uuid=blah /(mounthere) type ... |
| [09:54:14] | clever: | try it and see:P |
| [09:54:56] | clever: | damnit |
| [09:55:00] | clever: | cant reload lirc drivers now |
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| [09:55:41] | clever: | brb |
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| [10:02:28] | sn9: | nobody has anything to say about the coolermaster rc-260? |
| [10:03:24] | justinh: | wth is this 'spam challenge' email I've got here? all in firkin german! |
| [10:04:56] | sn9: | i got a spam today in german with "{Spam}" at the start of the subject line, and the first line was link text in english saying to click if it's not spam |
| [10:06:07] | justinh: | whitelisting eh? gawd I hate that |
| [10:06:38] | justinh: | as if no machine on earth can follow links |
| [10:06:41] | sn9: | this was whitelisting by the spammer's own isp |
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| [10:13:43] | clever: | yay |
| [10:13:45] | clever: | several reboots later and lirc is right back where i started! |
| [10:13:47] | clever: | that was fun:P |
| [10:14:14] | clever: | now who made me start all this:P |
| [10:16:51] | ** clever slaps sn9 ** | |
| [10:16:58] | clever: | sn9: you broke my system! |
| [10:16:58] | clever: | :P |
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| [10:19:54] | clever: | any1 awake? |
| [10:20:13] | Huijari: | yeah |
| [10:20:27] | clever: | you know much about myth? |
| [10:20:43] | Huijari: | a bit |
| [10:21:11] | clever: | :( |
| [10:22:04] | Huijari: | but gtg :P --> |
| [10:23:40] | clever: | managed to fix it so far |
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| [10:31:54] | Mythster: | Tanthrix, are you there man? |
| [10:32:01] | justinh: | "hey I bought this mythtv system from a vendor & they've pointed me towards a problem in the code. support me!". blimmin cheeky Bs |
| [10:32:14] | Mythster: | my arch is being a bitch its telling me i need a libsensors.so.3 file |
| [10:32:27] | Mythster: | can anyone help me out and try to find that file on their pc |
| [10:32:30] | Mythster: | then email it to me |
| [10:32:38] | directhex|bsp: | no, because it'll be compiled for the wrong libc |
| [10:32:46] | directhex|bsp: | i thought arch was wonderful and simple |
| [10:32:51] | Mythster: | lol |
| [10:32:55] | justinh: | arghhhhlinux :) |
| [10:32:59] | Mythster: | its not nec arch |
| [10:33:04] | Mythster: | its mythtv |
| [10:33:04] | directhex|bsp: | justinh, any idea whether there'll be any channel 4 hd on freesat? |
| [10:33:33] | justinh: | directhex|bsp: maybe when C4's current carriage agreement runs out with Sky. Or maybe not |
| [10:33:51] | directhex|bsp: | justinh, didn't they have plans for an hd channel? i don't rmember whether that happened |
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| [10:34:03] | justinh: | directhex|bsp: oh it's on air now |
| [10:34:09] | justinh: | directhex|bsp: but it's not FTA |
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| [10:34:36] | justinh: | all this FTV madness has got to stop. it's beyond the pale |
| [10:35:15] | justinh: | yeah sure make it so only UK users can view certain channels (in theory) but ffs not just through one company you bastards |
| [10:35:48] | directhex|bsp: | hey, national geographic transmit a uk hd signal on hb6? O_o |
| [10:36:23] | directhex|bsp: | seca2. i wonder who controls subs |
| [10:36:52] | directhex|bsp: | Cyfra+ |
| [10:37:05] | directhex|bsp: | those damned open-systems-using poles, with their official branded CAMs |
| [10:37:12] | justinh: | hmm can't you buy sec2 CAMs just about anywhere |
| [10:38:27] | directhex|bsp: | yeah |
| [10:38:36] | justinh: | there's a street near where my sister lives which could easily be mistaken for somewhere in Poland |
| [10:38:37] | directhex|bsp: | think my TUTV cam would work, actually! think that's seca2 |
| [10:39:04] | directhex|bsp: | oh, god, there's a channel called "sky real lives"? |
| [10:39:07] | directhex|bsp: | *2* of them?# |
| [10:39:35] | justinh: | there are _golfing_ channels on Sky ffs. one of them has gone byebyes though :) |
| [10:40:09] | directhex|bsp: | crap, 4hd is on a sky transponder |
| [10:40:19] | justinh: | I wonder how the UK compares to other places in the world in terms of channels per head of population |
| [10:40:36] | directhex|bsp: | with sky movies hd and sky anytime hd |
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| [10:40:43] | justinh: | directhex|bsp: yeah and it's NDS |
| [10:41:05] | directhex|bsp: | justinh, well i know it's nds, i was thinking that when ch4's contract ends, ch4-only transponders would switch |
| [10:41:13] | directhex|bsp: | justinh, looks like 5 have their own tp |
| [10:41:21] | justinh: | for freesat to work it's gonna have to be Freesat. As in without the "from Sky" :D |
| [10:41:40] | justinh: | Sky shouldn't even be allowed to use the freesat name |
| [10:42:35] | directhex|bsp: | they had it first |
| [10:42:38] | directhex|bsp: | ! |
| [10:44:22] | justinh: | even so |
| [10:44:53] | justinh: | there's too much firkin confusion about digital tv as things are now |
| [10:44:58] | justinh: | and it's only going to worsen |
| [10:45:14] | justinh: | esp. if Sly get their way with 'Picnic' |
| [10:45:46] | justinh: | they'll flood the Uk with "changing to digital? get us or you wont get any tv!" |
| [10:46:17] | directhex|bsp: | okay, looks like there are 4 transponders with ch4 material on. 12168 V tp 24 carries all the channel 4 regions, 12480 V tp 40 carries ch4+1 and some unrelated interactive services (by the look of it, something ISP related), 10729 V tp 42 carries more4(+1), e4(+1) and film4(+1) plus unrelated interactives |
| [10:46:24] | justinh: | they've already been bollocked for that. pay the fine, do it again |
| [10:46:58] | directhex|bsp: | and the final one, 11798 H tp 5, carries 4hd, sky movies hd 1, and sky anytime hd 1 |
| [10:47:20] | justinh: | ITV HD is soon to follow. be interesting to see if that winds up FTA or not |
| [10:47:22] | directhex|bsp: | irony: sky "anytime" hd runs 4am->lunchtime |
| [10:47:25] | siXy: | anyone have any ideas on a better quality ver of the DVB 1000-T cards? noticed that the tuner isn't close to as good as the tuner in my tv. some of that can be explained by the fact it needs to be processed a lot more, but the quality difference is huge |
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| [10:47:42] | justinh: | directhex|bsp: anytime is their push to pvr channel though |
| [10:47:57] | directhex|bsp: | siXy, quality in what sense? |
| [10:48:22] | justinh: | siXy: the 'quality' of picture with a digital tuner isn't determined by the tuner card at all |
| [10:48:35] | directhex|bsp: | indeed. unless your reception is crap |
| [10:49:00] | directhex|bsp: | did anyone document mythtv/freesat yet, or is it still waiting for me to move house? |
| [10:49:17] | justinh: | still no English DVB-S docs |
| [10:49:45] | directhex|bsp: | urgh |
| [10:49:57] | directhex|bsp: | well, it'll be fun finding out! |
| [10:50:08] | directhex|bsp: | i'll write about it on my blog! |
| [10:50:27] | siXy: | i thought it was independant of tuner cartd, etc and only determined by signal strength, until i plugged my mythtv cable into the back of the tv |
| [10:50:44] | siXy: | and noticed quality massively improve |
| [10:51:09] | siXy: | unless, of course, thats the tv doing post-processing to remove mpeg2 artifacts and sharpen the picture |
| [10:51:18] | directhex|bsp: | it's precisely that |
| [10:51:43] | justinh: | digital bollocks, in other words |
| [10:51:53] | directhex|bsp: | what you're proposing is akin to a digital photo being a higher resolution depending on what brand of memory card reader you use |
| [10:52:01] | siXy: | :) |
| [10:52:35] | siXy: | maybe not quite that bad, after all inside a pc case i bet there is a lot more emi |
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| [10:52:41] | justinh: | get some lanczos scaling on the case, greedy deinterlacing & some quality deblocking on the go |
| [10:53:12] | justinh: | siXy: plus the fact that 2.5mbits mpeg2 at 720x576 will look like shite on any screen above 32" |
| [10:53:21] | siXy: | now if i understood more than one of three terms in that sentance i might try and do just that justinh :) |
| [10:53:42] | justinh: | siXy: post processing filters in trunk :) |
| [10:53:52] | Dibblah: | ... Not in trunk. |
| [10:54:01] | justinh: | trunk has better deinterlacers.. the greedy one for sure |
| [10:54:04] | Dibblah: | No scaling options in trunk. |
| [10:54:16] | siXy: | *could* there be? |
| [10:54:18] | Dibblah: | No pp – therefore no deblocking. |
| [10:54:24] | Dibblah: | siXy: Yes. |
| [10:54:27] | justinh: | no deblocking either? |
| [10:54:35] | siXy: | if there was someway to use ffmpeg or similar for postprocessing |
| [10:54:39] | justinh: | so wtf was the point of the whole vid branch then? |
| [10:54:53] | Dibblah: | justinh: See that -vid branch? |
| [10:54:57] | Dibblah: | That's still there? |
| [10:55:02] | Dibblah: | And different from trunk? |
| [10:55:15] | justinh: | Dibblah: it was merged a while back but seems work is still going on |
| [10:55:20] | Dibblah: | See the -vid ticket? That's still open...? |
| [10:55:34] | Dibblah: | Not all of the features in -vid are complete. |
| [10:55:52] | justinh: | well hurry it up already. people are waiting! ;) |
| [10:56:16] | Dibblah: | The merge included different deinterlacing, video output methods depending on resolution of input source. |
| [10:56:38] | justinh: | so the rest is 'on its way' then. better n nowt |
| [10:57:05] | Dibblah: | Eventually, I believe. But of course, I'm not a dev. Ask Daniel. ;) |
| [10:57:49] | justinh: | I've looked in the code. seems lanczos is in libswscale along with some others but they won't work for toffee yet |
| [11:00:09] | justinh: | then again who knows how much CPU playing SDTV through all the nice filters is going to eat? |
| [11:01:04] | justinh: | greedy deinterlacer does what it says on the tin, I know that much for sure |
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| [11:06:33] | siXy: | yeah, vai epia users are probably out in the cold |
| [11:06:37] | siXy: | via* |
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| [11:06:58] | justinh: | roflmfao |
| [11:07:32] | justinh: | serves em right for buying lame hardware innit |
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| [11:09:46] | KaZeR: | what's the port to query the backend status which returns an html page? |
| [11:10:00] | justinh: | 6544 IIRC |
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| [11:11:21] | KaZeR: | thanks |
| [11:11:30] | ** justinh wonders what the best UK deal on pci freeview tuner cards is ** | |
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| [11:13:09] | siXy: | probably a 1000-T, if you can still find one |
| [11:13:25] | justinh: | aye cos the 1000S doesn't work |
| [11:14:00] | siXy: | and even if it did, its a crappy silicon version, which means worse signal |
| [11:14:17] | _ben: | the nova t-500? |
| [11:14:21] | _ben: | dual tuner |
| [11:14:32] | justinh: | _ben: no way I'm risking getting the TD version |
| [11:14:38] | justinh: | and it's still buggy in linux anyway |
| [11:15:01] | _ben: | mines fine :p |
| [11:15:13] | justinh: | bet you don't use EIT data |
| [11:15:18] | _ben: | i do |
| [11:15:45] | justinh: | got a pinnacle one on aria for under £17 exc vat |
| [11:16:21] | siXy: | from the box of a MSI tuner card: "Love it or leave it" |
| [11:16:35] | ** justinh chooses to leave it ** | |
| [11:18:28] | justinh: | too many crappy USB sticks around these days |
| [11:18:51] | justinh: | put a decent aerial cable on a USB stick & it'll pull it out of the USB socket |
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| [11:22:08] | justinh: | rofl @ Seagate trying our PM board. they can't get HDD icons to appear in explorer. they see them in device manager but no drive letters/icons. no mention of storage management applets or anything. hello?! Seagate, HDD experts?! rofl |
| [11:26:08] | siXy: | :) |
| [11:27:07] | ** justinh wonders if their sata controller is even PM aware. now that'd be funny ** | |
| [11:29:32] | justinh: | hmm hvr1100 for £15. might be worth a burn on 2 |
| [11:32:35] | directhex|bsp: | PM? |
| [11:33:55] | justinh: | port multiplier |
| [11:34:09] | directhex|bsp: | ah |
| [11:34:56] | siXy: | justinh: don't the HVR cards have issues? or are they working now? |
| [11:35:07] | justinh: | hvr1100 has worked for ages AFAIK |
| [11:35:29] | justinh: | 1 quids & fiver delivery. they can FO |
| [11:35:35] | justinh: | 15 quids |
| [11:35:36] | siXy: | hmm i tested the hvr1300 (admittedly ages ago, when it was new) and it had issues |
| [11:35:57] | justinh: | thought diggickle always worked on them from the start |
| [11:36:25] | siXy: | iirc it was a case of 'should work, but ymmv' |
| [11:36:34] | justinh: | seems my luck of getting sub £15 delivered dvb-t tuners on f;leabay has all gorn |
| [11:36:37] | siXy: | i might be wrong however, was a while ago |
| [11:37:14] | siXy: | too many idiots on fleabay paying more for 2nd hand items than the brand new thing has removed much of the usefulness of the site |
| [11:37:31] | justinh: | anyway I wouldn't write off silicone tunays ya know. they're much better now |
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| [11:38:59] | siXy: | as good as 'proper' tin can ones? |
| [11:39:11] | justinh: | better in some cases so it's alleged |
| [11:40:10] | siXy: | really? well i live and learn :) |
| [11:40:17] | justinh: | bah not paying more than £25 for a nova-t |
| [11:40:34] | siXy: | googling now for *why* they might be better |
| [11:40:55] | justinh: | better filtering, better image rejection |
| [11:41:26] | justinh: | lower power consumption |
| [11:42:02] | justinh: | and lets not forget that earlier pc tuners using silicon were quite possibly poor designs/layouts anyway |
| [11:42:20] | siXy: | s/possibly/probably/ :) |
| [11:42:29] | siXy: | (not that I could do better, mind) |
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| [11:42:47] | siXy: | but better filtering etc sounds interesting |
| [11:43:25] | justinh: | they're doing the IF in DSPs by the look of it |
| [11:43:51] | justinh: | SAW filters in silicon. less lossy, more predictable |
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| [11:44:24] | justinh: | hmmm seems the best I can get under 25 notes is http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.as . . . uctID=580914 |
| [11:45:02] | directhex|bsp: | i didn't want to risk a card without a linuxtv entry, so i bought nova-ts |
| [11:45:08] | directhex|bsp: | at least i get free shipping |
| [11:45:09] | siXy: | justinh: i hope you already have a better remote than the tiny thing it comes with |
| [11:45:18] | justinh: | siXy: but of course :) |
| [11:45:28] | justinh: | tuners are for backends anyway |
| [11:45:54] | justinh: | directhex|bsp: I'm not risking a card not on the linuxtv wiki either |
| [11:48:40] | justinh: | jees ebuyer are expensive for tuners |
| [11:49:14] | siXy: | ebuyer irritate the hell out of me |
| [11:49:33] | directhex|bsp: | i buy from scan and komplett most of the time |
| [11:49:57] | directhex|bsp: | kustompcs for "fringe" stuff, microdirect & aria & ebuyer as backup when the others fail; |
| [11:50:00] | justinh: | think I'll go for a couple of those compros & opt for free delivery to work |
| [11:50:35] | justinh: | except that the compro T100 isn't on the wiki. bah |
| [11:52:06] | directhex|bsp: | hmv's sales were up at xmas, largely debcause they've been pulling cds from the shelves and stocking xboxes instead. go figure, people see 15 quid on a cd as crap use of disposable income compared to 15 quid on a game! |
| [11:53:02] | justinh: | 15 quid for not even 40 minutes of music. I'd see that as a waste of my disposable income too |
| [11:53:38] | justinh: | but then again, people pay 3 times that to see their favourite artiste represented by a pixel on big screen in a massive cold draughty shed |
| [11:54:28] | directhex|bsp: | spent £20 a ticket on the last live music i went to see |
| [11:54:50] | directhex|bsp: | and that was central london |
| [11:55:24] | justinh: | too many acts don't bother with decent venues anymore |
| [11:55:34] | mzb_d800: | df |
| [11:55:40] | mzb_d800: | lol |
| [11:55:45] | mzb_d800: | oops |
| [11:55:45] | justinh: | they go for the "get a million people in over a few days" route |
| [11:56:06] | directhex|bsp: | biggest i've been to, barring reading, was at wembley arena |
| [11:56:30] | directhex|bsp: | the smashing pumpkins, november 2000, a few feet from the crash barrier |
| [11:56:51] | directhex|bsp: | other than that most vanues have been reasonably intimate |
| [11:57:10] | justinh: | only festival I've ever been to was a couple of V things. 1st ever was on a press pass :) VIP area ftw! |
| [11:57:26] | directhex|bsp: | intimate enough that snow patrol stopped playing to complain me & my mate looked like we wanted to kill them |
| [11:57:33] | justinh: | never seen portaloos with piped music & air fresheners before? get a press pass |
| [11:57:40] | directhex|bsp: | their own stupid fault for being the support act. nobody likes the support act |
| [11:58:09] | directhex|bsp: | i was portaloos with music & air fresheners at a LAN party in london, actually |
| [11:58:39] | justinh: | my wife went to see Wet Wet Wet the other week. spare ticket was going at work so she took it up. Almost front row. Damnit. a matter of feet from that wanker & she didn't blow herself up? an opportunity missed! |
| [11:59:08] | directhex|bsp: | http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/wp-content/g . . . img_0180.jpg |
| [11:59:38] | justinh: | woo oi loikes Air |
| [11:59:59] | justinh: | was gonna go see em in Manchester once but found out Julian Lennon was supporting. kinda put me off |
| [12:00:00] | directhex|bsp: | third time i've seen them live, that was |
| [12:00:27] | directhex|bsp: | air's support generally sucks. turn up late, that's the key! |
| [12:00:43] | justinh: | looking back, it should've been extra time spent in the bar |
| [12:01:04] | directhex|bsp: | indeed |
| [12:01:07] | justinh: | oh aye that was the other thing. it was at The Ritz |
| [12:01:25] | directhex|bsp: | first time i saw them live it was some strange yodelling man doing support whilst some woman with an accordion bounced around the stage |
| [12:01:30] | directhex|bsp: | the music was great though |
| [12:01:33] | justinh: | not Manchester's least classy joint but.. |
| [12:01:49] | justinh: | lol |
| [12:02:11] | directhex|bsp: | i was a little disappointed by their latest performance, it was fairly "normal". first time i saw them in southampton, it took ~5 minutes for anyone to recognise "sexy boy" |
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| [12:03:31] | justinh: | hmmm plenty backseat dev posts going on these days. very demoralising |
| [12:03:55] | directhex|bsp: | mythtv should floss my teeth! get to work! |
| [12:04:12] | GreyFoxx: | justinh: any thread in particularly ? |
| [12:04:18] | GreyFoxx: | -y |
| [12:04:24] | justinh: | somebody posts an idea on the -dev list & all & sundry jump in with their 2p worth |
| [12:04:30] | GreyFoxx: | ahh |
| [12:04:45] | justinh: | back to the secret list! |
| [12:05:21] | justinh: | similar thing has happened on -users – the 'disk space ui' thread |
| [12:05:28] | siXy: | secret list comes with its own problems, however |
| [12:05:48] | justinh: | oh no there I go again being evil, despising 'contribution'. grrr |
| [12:05:54] | siXy: | makes people on the fringes not want to bother helping |
| [12:06:21] | justinh: | just do it without asking so many peope's opinions :) |
| [12:06:32] | justinh: | then submit it |
| [12:07:41] | justinh: | siXy: sometimes it goes way too far the other way & gets discussed to death to the point where nobody can agree on core stuff. that's when towels are thrown in |
| [12:08:00] | siXy: | justinh: yeah, there needs to be some balancing stuff |
| [12:08:50] | justinh: | and I'm still a firm believer in saying that feature requests aren't contributions, fwiw |
| [12:09:08] | justinh: | if that makes me an evil bastard, then that's what I am |
| [12:10:35] | justinh: | I have to point out that the opinion I just expressed does not represent the overall views/party line of the mythtv project in any way |
| [12:12:08] | siXy: | no, there should be somewhere for feature requests, but the -dev list is probably not it |
| [12:12:20] | justinh: | there is. on the wiki |
| [12:12:26] | justinh: | everywhere apparently |
| [12:12:51] | siXy: | :) |
| [12:16:29] | justinh: | I almost asked on the -dev list what people thought about my idea for the appearance gadget. fecking glad I never did |
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| [12:16:41] | slacker-: | hi there |
| [12:16:57] | slacker-: | does anyone use the 'metallurgy' theme? |
| [12:17:25] | slacker-: | i've downloaded and unpacked it but it doesn't show up |
| [12:17:56] | siXy: | you need to unpack to the themes directory. |
| [12:18:03] | slacker-: | I did |
| [12:18:16] | slacker-: | right next to all the other ones I downloaded which do show up |
| [12:18:58] | siXy: | hmm. well iirc its not finished yet, so maybe submit a bug? |
| [12:20:15] | slacker-: | it seems a fairly obvious bug |
| [12:20:18] | justinh: | slacker-: only works with trunk you know |
| [12:20:52] | slacker-: | oh, I konw |
| [12:20:58] | slacker-: | yes, just saw that |
| [12:21:27] | slacker-: | sorry |
| [12:21:48] | slacker-: | ah well, stick with grayhem then |
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| [12:23:37] | slacker-: | thanks anyway. |
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| [12:25:40] | justinh: | how in the world... |
| [12:25:43] | justinh: | damn too late |
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| [13:04:05] | jduggan: | lol |
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| [13:49:58] | Kyler: | I bought an OTA HD card awhile ago but haven't put it in my Myth server. I'm thinking again about HD satellite. Are there any new developments? R5000-HD? 169time? |
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| [13:51:02] | justinh: | Kyler: nope. other than the Hauppauge hardware encoding h.264 USB device which has component input, I mean |
| [13:52:13] | Kyler: | justinh: Hauppauge did it? I found a thread about someone else considering one but I didn't find any product. |
| [13:52:46] | justinh: | they demoed it at CES |
| [13:53:00] | justinh: | it's real & people are writing drivers for windows & linux |
| [13:53:04] | justinh: | AND LINUX |
| [13:53:09] | Kyler: | Ah...I just found a blurb about it. I was hoping to buy one today. |
| [13:53:18] | justinh: | lol |
| [13:53:21] | Kyler: | Hmmm...who's writing the drivers? |
| [13:53:39] | justinh: | somebody we know :) |
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| [13:53:56] | Kyler: | A USB device would be handy. I've already got my Myth server filled with PVR-250s. |
| [13:54:21] | justinh: | two pvr250 cards eh? assuming your motherboard is quite modern |
| [13:54:39] | Kyler: | No, four of them. Plus a digital audio capture card. |
| [13:55:17] | justinh: | 5 pci slots? wow. like mine then. a good vintage |
| [13:55:18] | justinh: | :) |
| [13:55:26] | Kyler: | Speaking of digital audio...does the Hauppauge device have it? |
| [13:55:30] | justinh: | yes |
| [13:55:35] | justinh: | optical & coax IIRC |
| [13:55:43] | Kyler: | yum |
| [13:56:05] | justinh: | up to 25mbit/sec capture too |
| [13:56:15] | Kyler: | I might just have to switch to HD. I'm guessing I'll need to upgrade my settop boxes. They're VIA C7s now. |
| [13:56:36] | justinh: | bless |
| [13:56:42] | Kyler: | I just ordered a Core 2 Duo Mini-ITX motherboard. I'm guessing that should handle HD better. |
| [13:57:32] | Kyler: | What got me thinking about HD again is the new DirecTV tuner with USB and Ethernet. It would be _so_ slick to have a MythTV driver for it. |
| [13:57:35] | justinh: | should handle HD, even :) |
| [13:58:39] | Kyler: | Yeah, it's a slippery slope. My wife is going to want our fancy new WXGA projector mounted in the house if I get all this working. |
| [13:59:05] | Kyler: | Any ETA on Hauppauge drivers? |
| [14:00:31] | justinh: | when they're ready |
| [14:01:54] | Kyler: | Hmmm...and I just realized that I could use a component video recorder to capture VGA output (with a converter). That could be handy for KVM-over-IP. |
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| [14:03:19] | Kyler: | I've always hated the idea of converting nice compressed digital video streams to analog and back but it would be handy to have something that will work with whatever proprietary hardware I have to use. |
| [14:03:56] | psm321: | where can i get nuvinfo |
| [14:03:56] | psm321: | ? |
| [14:04:55] | Kyler: | One more request...any pointers for a _good_ RF remote? My ATI remote with its extremely short range is annoying. |
| [14:05:20] | siXy: | firefly make one |
| [14:05:43] | siXy: | its not bad. but tbh the mce usb remote is so good i wouldn't bother 99% of the time |
| [14:06:18] | Kyler: | http://www.snapstream.com/products/firefly/ |
| [14:06:22] | justinh: | control mythtv while sitting on the pot! |
| [14:06:52] | Kyler: | Are the MCE remotes all IR? |
| [14:07:04] | justinh: | think so |
| [14:07:07] | DGnome: | yup |
| [14:07:14] | justinh: | why the big fuss about rf? |
| [14:07:17] | DGnome: | not many rf remotes out there |
| [14:07:56] | Kyler: | Oh! And there's already LIRC configuration data for it! http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Snapstream_Firefly |
| [14:08:11] | Kyler: | I'm going to order a couple. Thanks guys! |
| [14:08:43] | justinh: | my IR remote is hardly dependent on line of sight, and works from the other side of my 10 metre long livingroom |
| [14:10:43] | Kyler: | On second thought...I'd order more if I had one more thing...Has anyone interfaced Miro to MythTV? I see it mentioned here but no progress. http://www.getmiro.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=207 |
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| [14:11:54] | justinh: | WTF is Miro? |
| [14:11:57] | Kyler: | Long ago I tried to make my own .nuv files to stuff into MythTV and I didn't get far. I might take another swing at that. |
| [14:12:09] | Kyler: | http://www.getmiro.com/ |
| [14:12:20] | justinh: | ahh turn your computer into an internet ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| [14:12:37] | justinh: | loadofbollocks2.0 :) |
| [14:12:55] | Kyler: | And yet it provides what some of us want. |
| [14:13:07] | psm321: | anybody? google isnt much help |
| [14:13:11] | GreyFoxx: | does it do upnp ? |
| [14:13:15] | justinh: | blocky crap fullscreen video? |
| [14:13:23] | Kyler: | The trick would be to get MythTV to read the videos files it generates. |
| [14:13:31] | Kyler: | blocky crap fullscreen HD video? |
| [14:13:46] | justinh: | you lost me at blocky & crap :) |
| [14:14:06] | Kyler: | I'll summarize: it's much better video than I get with MythTV. |
| [14:14:24] | GreyFoxx: | Is it basically, a video player with RSS feeds ? |
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| [14:15:17] | Kyler: | GreyFoxx: Theoretically, yes, it's an RSS video aggregator. They've got a lot of glue that makes it easy for "normal people" to use. I even find it a bit addictive. |
| [14:15:37] | justinh: | "Unlike tiny videos on websites like YouTube, Miro videos are usually very high quality and look great when watched full screen." |
| [14:15:41] | justinh: | might be good after all |
| [14:16:01] | willcooke: | I had miro installed for a while, it sucked |
| [14:16:06] | justinh: | so uhhh I guess I have to ask .. where does it all come from? |
| [14:16:07] | psm321: | n/m i found it (part of nuvexport) |
| [14:16:33] | Kyler: | You can also think of it as "direct HD feeds without corporate control, analog crap and futzing with program guides and LIRC problems." |
| [14:17:01] | mzb_d800: | mythtv replacement? ;)) |
| [14:17:03] | GreyFoxx: | Kyler: If it handles upnp then it oculd be used to view myth content |
| [14:17:12] | GreyFoxx: | recordings and videos |
| [14:17:13] | justinh: | I'm thinking of it more as a way for the masses to bypass copyright & DRM by distributing ripped discs & recorded content. |
| [14:17:22] | Kyler: | I want to go the other way. I prefer Myth's UI. |
| [14:18:20] | Kyler: | I just mounted one of my projectors at our church. I'm planning to put a computer on it (with a KVM switch for presentations) so that people can walk up and watch interesting programs anytime. |
| [14:18:37] | justinh: | can't see that much 'user generated' content being worth watching. I like expensive productions a lot |
| [14:19:12] | Kyler: | I'd like the church secretary (or someone) to run Miro to get the titles but I want MythTV to display them. |
| [14:19:34] | Kyler: | justinh: Yup, you're not the target. There's good stuff out there for people who are more open to it. |
| [14:19:45] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh ok, it's basically a renamed democracy |
| [14:20:02] | Kyler: | Definitely. It still uses "democracy" in several places. |
| [14:20:07] | Kyler: | (democracyplayer) |
| [14:20:11] | justinh: | nobody is gonna con me into thinking that democracy was any more than a way of people distributing chaff or copyrighted material |
| [14:21:15] | Kyler: | The Miro content descriptions should be easy enough to yank and stuff into MythTV. The trick is getting MythTV to play the video files. |
| [14:21:35] | justinh: | mythnews can work with video rss feeds now |
| [14:22:06] | Kyler: | Yeah, I'm not so enthused about MythNews. I'd much rather have everything in MythTV. |
| [14:22:28] | GreyFoxx: | Kyler: Does it download and store them on your HD ? |
| [14:22:52] | Kyler: | GreyFoxx: Yes, the management of the feeds is a big feature of Miro. |
| [14:22:54] | justinh: | GreyFoxx: yeah it does |
| [14:23:03] | GreyFoxx: | Well, what format at they stored in ? |
| [14:23:21] | GreyFoxx: | s/at/are |
| [14:23:45] | Kyler: | GreyFoxx: That's one issue. It's whatever format the creator provided. I have issues with a lot of it. |
| [14:23:57] | GreyFoxx: | Cause if all It's doing is downloading/storing as avi/mpeg/wmv and such you can just point mythvideo at the Miro storage directory |
| [14:24:10] | Kyler: | GreyFoxx: Right, but then you wouldn't get the descriptions. |
| [14:24:20] | GreyFoxx: | Sure you can |
| [14:24:23] | Kyler: | Also, MythVideo isn't nearly as nice as MythTV for grouping programs. |
| [14:24:24] | GreyFoxx: | Use the Gallery view |
| [14:24:30] | GreyFoxx: | and when you click on afile you get the description :) |
| [14:24:42] | justinh: | I don't want downloaded crap in 'watch recordings' thankyou |
| [14:24:44] | GreyFoxx: | Or a simple entry into the reecorded table would do it |
| [14:25:13] | directhex|bsp: | justinh, true, but mythvideo is pretty crappy for !movies |
| [14:25:16] | GreyFoxx: | store the content into your recordings storage group/location |
| [14:25:19] | Kyler: | Right, it would be fairly easy to stuff the descriptions into MythVideo but as long as I'm doing that I'd rather get it in MythTV and get the "threading." |
| [14:25:46] | justinh: | Kyler: you don't get much threading. group/show titles, then episodes. end of |
| [14:26:14] | Kyler: | justinh: exactly |
| [14:29:03] | Kyler: | So...I grappled with this for quite awhile (years ago) but...anyone know how to create MythTV-compatible (.nuv) files from ffmpeg/mencoder? |
| [14:29:07] | justinh: | write a practical use case then I'll make up my mind |
| [14:29:15] | GreyFoxx: | Kyler: I doubt they can |
| [14:29:23] | GreyFoxx: | You could however use mythtranscode to do it |
| [14:29:23] | directhex|bsp: | Kyler, no need. myth doesn't need nuv |
| [14:29:28] | GreyFoxx: | But you don't need to |
| [14:29:45] | GreyFoxx: | myth's internal player doesn't require recordings be "nuv" |
| [14:30:11] | Kyler: | When last I looked at MythTV is balked at most video I threw at it (except MPEG2). |
| [14:30:26] | Kyler: | I'll be delighted if that's changed, of course! |
| [14:30:49] | Kyler: | There was an internal transcoder but I was unable to do external transcodes. |
| [14:31:22] | GreyFoxx: | Kyler: It's been doable for a long long time |
| [14:31:42] | GreyFoxx: | so you should be able to just add recorded entries for them |
| [14:31:47] | Kyler: | Cool! I'll try it again. |
| [14:31:52] | GreyFoxx: | which can include descriptions and whatnot |
| [14:32:07] | Kyler: | There's also a matter of getting the thousands of...what?...recordedseek entries? |
| [14:32:09] | justinh: | you could even use a new group |
| [14:32:18] | justinh: | 'downloadedcrap' e.g. :) |
| [14:32:23] | directhex|bsp: | Kyler, mythcommflagg --rebuild --all |
| [14:32:26] | justinh: | default filter to not show that :) |
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| [14:36:37] | justinh: | hmm.. is the PCF anything along the lines of Televangelism 2.0? |
| [14:37:05] | justinh: | spread the word, by bittorrent! |
| [14:38:52] | Kyler: | directhex|bsp: Thanks for the tip. I learned that one recently and I was looking forward to trying it. |
| [14:39:50] | justinh: | don't worry. one day I'll be so 2.0 friendly it hurts. maybe when 3.0 is around |
| [14:41:20] | mzb_d800: | so you're only < 1.0 behind? ;) |
| [14:41:56] | justinh: | somebody has to remain skeptical around here! |
| [14:42:07] | mzb_d800: | :) |
| [14:42:14] | justinh: | ooo hype! we love hype! embrace the hype & discuss its coolness :) |
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| [14:43:57] | directhex|bsp: | 0641d9de018cfb297a93a21753f8a63a PBSPro_9.1.0-linux24_x86_64_SUSE8.tar.gz |
| [14:44:00] | directhex|bsp: | whoops, wrong window |
| [14:46:55] | siXy: | SUSE8? :) |
| [14:48:04] | directhex|bsp: | don't look at me, i didn't build it |
| [14:48:13] | directhex|bsp: | it's the download marked as for suse 10.x |
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| [15:03:46] | mzb_d800: | I'm loving the multiple CONFIG option for lircrc options, but I think it needsa TIMEOUT parameter that resets the choices to the first CONFIG option (default TIMEOUT=0 for normal toggle|sequential action) |
| [15:03:53] | mzb_d800: | is there a better way? |
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| [15:05:05] | justinh: | mzb_d800: doesn't it get reset when any other button is pressed? maybe it times out itself |
| [15:05:07] | mzb_d800: | (or method) of achieving the same thing? |
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| [15:05:33] | mzb_d800: | justinh: you might be right ... I should probably experiment more |
| [15:05:48] | justinh: | other than writing your own lirc handler, and put all lirc through that first... |
| [15:06:24] | justinh: | mzb_d800: I've never played with it & only know of the multiple config stuff from quickly skimming the docs |
| [15:06:46] | mzb_d800: | nah ... I think all the code is there ... I'll just have to check it more carefully |
| [15:07:29] | mzb_d800: | I've been playing with it ... quite nice feature ... just need to know more from experience I guess. |
| [15:07:58] | mzb_d800: | I'll examine it further when I finish the database aspect |
| [15:09:17] | mzb_d800: | better go to bed before woman wakes up and realises I'm not there ;) |
| [15:09:22] | mzb_d800: | gnite all |
| [15:09:56] | justinh: | g'night |
| [15:13:00] | justinh: | effinelle. never heard such BS from a developer in my LIFE. 'we're outputting analogue HDMI here'. that guy needs a smack |
| [15:13:35] | siXy: | "analogue HDMI" :) |
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| [15:23:44] | Andycasss: | Is there a way to change AC3 codecs volume? |
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| [15:30:32] | justinh: | nope |
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| [15:32:30] | Andycasss: | meh, its so quiet i have to use 3/4th of volume |
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| [15:46:27] | Andycasss: | It only happens when i use mplayer via mythvideo, when i watch it with just mplayer, its normal? |
| [15:47:09] | justinh: | wtf? |
| [15:47:25] | justinh: | so the options you've set mythvideo to are different |
| [15:48:17] | Andycasss: | I know that, i think i have to find out the normalize audio argument for mplayer |
| [15:48:48] | justinh: | so 'just mplayer' means just run 'mplayer $somefile' from a terminal? |
| [15:49:06] | justinh: | you can't normalise AC3 or DTS streams |
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| [15:53:06] | Andycasss: | justinh: umm, no not via terminal – If i run it thru terminal its quiet again |
| [15:53:23] | Andycasss: | I meant using the mplayer GUI program... |
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| [15:57:18] | Andycasss: | maybe a52drc 0 would make it better? |
| [16:02:09] | Andycasss: | hmh, when i disable "normalize sound" option from GUI mplayer it becomes also quiet, when enabled it has normal sound? |
| [16:04:27] | justinh: | surround sound is designed to have lots of headroom |
| [16:05:07] | justinh: | if everything is _loud_ – then how do you keep the impact of action scenes etc? |
| [16:05:59] | Andycasss: | Well i only have 2chn, i dont need surround... |
| [16:06:35] | Andycasss: | and i hate it when the horror movies scare you with that loud shit |
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| [16:14:23] | justinh: | watch horror films with the sound turned off.. whoah where did the scary go? |
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| [16:18:02] | Andycasss: | I understand your point, but i dont need it to be surround and extremely low sound |
| [16:18:25] | ** CaptObviousman wishes he could listen to normal theater quality sound ** | |
| [16:18:35] | CaptObviousman: | I have to keep my amp on night mode continually |
| [16:18:55] | justinh: | CaptObviousman: why? such a shame |
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| [16:19:09] | CaptObviousman: | in an apt complex, with thin walls |
| [16:19:27] | CaptObviousman: | and I like to watch movies at strange hours of the night |
| [16:19:45] | justinh: | ah |
| [16:20:03] | CaptObviousman: | in a few years I'll get a house or something, then it won't matter |
| [16:20:36] | justinh: | I have a house on one side but we don't get on well with them. we tried when we first moved in but they proved to be assholes from day one |
| [16:20:52] | justinh: | so we don't care if we make a noise, and nor do they |
| [16:21:02] | justinh: | (care if they make a noise) |
| [16:21:07] | CaptObviousman: | well, that's fine I guess |
| [16:21:09] | CaptObviousman: | if neither of you minds |
| [16:21:22] | CaptObviousman: | around where I live there's a bunch of old folks, real touchy types |
| [16:21:26] | CaptObviousman: | so I have to step carefully |
| [16:21:43] | justinh: | it's not often I get to crank the volume up though. prefer to go to the cinema anyway |
| [16:21:50] | CaptObviousman: | what's funny is the guy next door to me is 60% deaf, it's the grumpy lady above me that's the problem |
| [16:21:55] | justinh: | lol |
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| [16:22:29] | CaptObviousman: | so the sub stays at 0.5 continuously, and I have my receiver on night mode 1 |
| [16:22:36] | CaptObviousman: | I jump to night mode 2 after 9pm |
| [16:22:37] | justinh: | I used to have a studio apartment in a converted mill. concrete walls & floors but the corridoors were echoey as hell |
| [16:23:06] | justinh: | 2am getting woken up by somebody closing their front door :( |
| [16:23:15] | CaptObviousman: | eww |
| [16:24:11] | justinh: | people used to play pranks on other residents by randomly switching off the supply in the (unlocked) dist board cupboard) |
| [16:24:32] | justinh: | that wouldn't have been good for mythtv :) |
| [16:24:41] | cal_: | so... what all would be broken if i went to SVN right now? I heard the transocoding rates get doubled.. I would just really like to use the new mythwebflash. |
| [16:25:01] | justinh: | cal_: just don't transcode :) |
| [16:25:32] | cal_: | justin: but is that the only bad thing .. ie... degression.. from release? |
| [16:25:34] | CaptObviousman: | does mencoder work? |
| [16:26:12] | ** CaptObviousman needs some friggin free time to build out his network ** | |
| [16:26:20] | justinh: | cal_: there's just been a major merge from another branch |
| [16:26:40] | justinh: | not worth updating just for some 2.0 web flashery IMHO |
| [16:26:40] | cal_: | so wait a couple weeks then? |
| [16:26:57] | justinh: | maybe |
| [16:27:19] | cal_: | its not only flashery, it looks like it would work a lot better. |
| [16:27:31] | justinh: | multirec ftw! |
| [16:27:48] | cal_: | the flash actually has controls on it now |
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| [16:33:07] | justinh: | god, whoever brought a 1.8kg container of jelly belly beans don't do it again! |
| [16:35:56] | justinh: | anyway... Andycasss use the commandline option of a52drc=1 & it'll compress the dynamic range of all ac3 streams for ya |
| [16:37:32] | CaptObviousman: | so does ubuntu split everything up into regular and dev packages? |
| [16:37:39] | justinh: | aye |
| [16:38:16] | CaptObviousman: | does that'd be why I didn't have to download any deps |
| [16:38:21] | CaptObviousman: | I think slackware just bundles it all together |
| [16:39:26] | CaptObviousman: | does debian also do that? splitting packages up |
| [16:39:44] | justinh: | ubuntu is debian based so you do the sums :) |
| [16:40:01] | CaptObviousman: | well I didn't know if crazy Ubuntu people ripped debian packages up and redid it |
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| [16:41:48] | directhex|bsp: | debian splits packages up wherever possible, so you only have "what you need" installed |
| [16:42:02] | directhex|bsp: | that and it minimises space on the repositories |
| [16:42:18] | directhex|bsp: | because libraries are per-arch, and dev headers are _all |
| [16:42:27] | directhex|bsp: | so the headers need making once, not 16 times |
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| [16:47:35] | jarle_: | In my channel table I have some dvb-s channels where serviceid=0 and mplexid=NULL. Guess I can just delete those channels, as they will never be able to tune? |
| [16:47:42] | CaptObviousman: | I suppose that makes sense |
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| [16:48:04] | CaptObviousman: | thanks for the explanation |
| [16:53:20] | directhex|bsp: | libc6-dev is 2.5 meg. multiply across 15 or so debian architectures. multiply across 24000 or so packages |
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| [17:03:14] | CaptObviousman: | how many arches does debian support anyway? |
| [17:03:30] | CaptObviousman: | i386, x86_64, ??? |
| [17:03:37] | directhex|bsp: | officially, 11 |
| [17:03:42] | CaptObviousman: | christ! |
| [17:03:47] | directhex|bsp: | plus 4 unofficial |
| [17:04:05] | directhex|bsp: | plus 3 semi-official non-linux |
| [17:04:12] | sid3windr: | yay for gnu/kfreebsd :D |
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| [17:04:34] | directhex|bsp: | like sid3windr says – http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ |
| [17:04:56] | justinh: | directhex|bsp: so I could run mythtv on a PIC? :D |
| [17:05:29] | directhex|bsp: | you'd have to compile it yourself, myth isn't in debian |
| [17:05:37] | CaptObviousman: | damnit, I can't find a direct link to a package repository |
| [17:05:43] | sid3windr: | debian-multimedia.org has it |
| [17:05:45] | CaptObviousman: | don't they have places to download packages? |
| [17:05:45] | sid3windr: | (but not for all archs) |
| [17:05:49] | directhex|bsp: | indeed |
| [17:05:56] | directhex|bsp: | Captain_Murdoch, lots. what exactly do you want? |
| [17:05:59] | ** CaptObviousman wants to check out what all arches are supported ** | |
| [17:06:06] | CaptObviousman: | I'm just poking around really |
| [17:06:45] | directhex|bsp: | http://www.debian.org/ports/ |
| [17:07:15] | directhex|bsp: | if you really want a package repo, try http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian/ |
| [17:07:32] | CaptObviousman: | ah you keep separate amd and intel 64-bit arches |
| [17:07:59] | CaptObviousman: | man, must be a real pain in the ass to keep track of all this |
| [17:07:59] | directhex|bsp: | nope |
| [17:08:02] | directhex|bsp: | ia64 is itanium |
| [17:08:10] | directhex|bsp: | nothing to do with amd64/em64t |
| [17:08:18] | CaptObviousman: | oooh, ok |
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| [17:13:06] | iamlindoro__: | justinh, All the complaining about the Wiki and still no page on MythAppearance? |
| [17:13:24] | directhex|bsp: | burn! |
| [17:13:27] | justinh: | it's not intended to be permanent |
| [17:13:34] | iamlindoro__: | ahh |
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| [17:14:33] | justinh: | besides, if you can't work out how to operate it by the onscreen instructions, better get off to a petrol station with a flame thrower |
| [17:15:07] | iamlindoro__: | there are *lots* of things in myth any dunce should be able to operate... doesn't mean we don't hear about then 50 times a day ;) |
| [17:15:24] | iamlindoro__: | er them |
| [17:15:50] | justinh: | anyway what kind of wiki fascist would I be if I practised what I preach? |
| [17:15:55] | iamlindoro__: | hahaha |
| [17:17:22] | ** CaptObviousman takes notes ** | |
| [17:18:13] | justinh: | seriously though I hope to have built it all in by the time the feature freeze comes up |
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| [17:18:49] | CaptObviousman: | when's that scheduled for? |
| [17:18:54] | iamlindoro__: | sooooon |
| [17:19:01] | justinh: | pfft |
| [17:19:03] | CaptObviousman: | hah |
| [17:19:04] | justinh: | when it's ready |
| [17:19:05] | CaptObviousman: | yeah right |
| [17:19:10] | CaptObviousman: | there you go, better response |
| [17:19:19] | justinh: | according to mythtvnews.com, end of next month |
| [17:19:41] | iamlindoro__: | pffft, soon is all a matter of perspective |
| [17:19:45] | justinh: | one dev said 'by March' – that was er.. interpreted by some as 'end of feb' |
| [17:19:53] | iamlindoro__: | not to mention .21 means less when you run SVN :) |
| [17:19:57] | justinh: | "by the end of the century" |
| [17:20:12] | CaptObviousman: | hell, who doesn't run SVN here? |
| [17:20:21] | justinh: | me |
| [17:20:28] | CaptObviousman: | really? you're on vanilla 0.20? |
| [17:20:32] | ** CaptObviousman boggles ** | |
| [17:20:33] | justinh: | not on my production system anyway |
| [17:20:34] | iamlindoro__: | Since on the day .21 comes out, we *still* will have no idea what the hell is in .21 |
| [17:22:32] | justinh: | CaptObviousman: not even running 0.20.2 in production man |
| [17:22:58] | CaptObviousman: | how do you mean production |
| [17:22:59] | Hoxzer: | is there a way to generate mythfrontend pid-file ? |
| [17:23:06] | CaptObviousman: | you sell myth boxes or something? |
| [17:23:08] | justinh: | CaptObviousman: daily use |
| [17:23:49] | GreyFoxx: | Hoxzer: unlike mythbackend the mythfrontend command doesn't have an option to write out a pidfile |
| [17:23:53] | justinh: | selling mythtv boxes is for mugs IMHO |
| [17:24:11] | CaptObviousman: | it could work, maybe |
| [17:24:16] | mindframe-: | justinh, can't sell the software of course. selling support is okay though |
| [17:24:39] | CaptObviousman: | well, I'm thinking of a turnkey system. Somebody sells you the whole box, with card installed already |
| [17:24:51] | CaptObviousman: | you'd have a hard time competing with tivo and slingbox though |
| [17:25:04] | justinh: | what too many myth vendors have been doing is selling stuff, then sending their customers to the mailing lists etc for support & feature requests. out of order |
| [17:25:05] | GreyFoxx: | Hoxer: likely wouldn't be too hard to add, but nothing in there as of now |
| [17:27:42] | justinh: | Hoxzer: that for monit to track it or something? just use a script to keep it running |
| [17:27:56] | Hoxzer: | GreyFoxx: :( sad. It would be great to have monit to monitor my (two) mythfrontends |
| [17:28:18] | GreyFoxx: | Hoxzer: are both processes on the same box ? |
| [17:28:18] | Hoxzer: | Too often a wakeup int he mornign wishing to watch music TV and my mythfrontend has segfaulted |
| [17:28:24] | Hoxzer: | GreyFoxx: yes |
| [17:28:25] | justinh: | while true do mythfrontend :) |
| [17:28:38] | Hoxzer: | Yeah, but I suppose that requires a running term |
| [17:28:42] | iamlindoro__: | Hmmm... anyone know if there's a -O override to run mythfrontend in a window? |
| [17:28:50] | GreyFoxx: | iamlindoro: yes |
| [17:28:57] | GreyFoxx: | -O applies to any value in the settings table |
| [17:29:05] | iamlindoro__: | ah, ok, thanks |
| [17:29:06] | GreyFoxx: | plus in svn there is a -w specifically for window mode |
| [17:29:08] | iamlindoro__: | good to know |
| [17:29:17] | iamlindoro__: | thanks GreyFoxx |
| [17:29:24] | justinh: | iamlindoro__: RunFrontendInWindow |
| [17:29:27] | Hoxzer: | One way ofcourse would be shell script but that woudl require starting mythfrontend in screen |
| [17:29:29] | GreyFoxx: | Hoxzer: You can run it in a looping script. And of course grab bt's |
| [17:29:35] | justinh: | select * from settings where value like "%window%"; |
| [17:30:10] | GreyFoxx: | Hoxzer: Or have your window manager call it when it starts |
| [17:31:12] | justinh: | hmmm looking to see if anybody's yet made use of a replacement nintendo DS lite touchscreen.. outside of a DS |
| [17:31:32] | Hoxzer: | Hmm, I already have window_chooser.sh scrip that I run inside a screen... |
| [17:31:40] | Hoxzer: | *script |
| [17:32:04] | Hoxzer: | Maybe I can somehow include the restarting feature to it. |
| [17:32:47] | Hoxzer: | It will be messy. |
| [17:33:07] | Hoxzer: | It would be really nice to have EPG working without window being selected |
| [17:33:25] | CaptObviousman: | looping script would work well, restart when it segs |
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| [17:34:17] | justinh: | ahh nifty. the DS touchscreen is more or less an off the shelf part! |
| [17:34:27] | GreyFoxx: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO.html#toc22.2 |
| [17:34:35] | GreyFoxx: | run gdb on the frontend in a loop |
| [17:34:48] | GreyFoxx: | have it auto grab a BT when a crash happens, and restart the FE |
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| [17:35:02] | GreyFoxx: | then you can submit the BT so maybe whatever is causing the crash can get fixed ;) |
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| [17:38:35] | justinh: | my FE sometimes falls over scrolling thru watch recordings |
| [17:38:49] | justinh: | no point reporting it. too old a version – you'd just laugh |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | heheh |
| [17:40:00] | justinh: | OMG. seen 'jumbotron DS' ? 2 tablet PC screens hooked up to a DS |
| [17:40:46] | GreyFoxx: | nice :) |
| [17:40:48] | jams: | i should add that looping ability to my setup. |
| [17:40:57] | jams: | looping with gdb |
| [17:42:01] | GreyFoxx: | justinh: That is kinda cool |
| [17:42:12] | GreyFoxx: | jams: It can come in handy for hard to reproduce crashes |
| [17:42:50] | jams: | yeah right now it's already looping, but adding a debug flag for gdb seems like a good idea |
| [17:43:09] | jams: | maybe if the debug packages are installed then also run gdb |
| [17:43:19] | ** jams makes a note to include that ** | |
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| [17:43:54] | GreyFoxx: | jams: yeah |
| [17:44:17] | Zathraz: | hi. How do I add extra channels to the mythtv database (I do not have a channels.conf file) |
| [17:44:35] | GreyFoxx: | I have a line in my scrip that checks for the existance of a file in /tmp. If thefile exists it sleeps for 60 seconds and loops around again, otherwise it launches mythfrontend |
| [17:44:35] | jams: | excellent |
| [17:44:48] | GreyFoxx: | jams: That way I can "touch /tmp/nomythfe" |
| [17:44:52] | GreyFoxx: | if I don'twant it to restart |
| [17:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | and delete it when I want it to popup again |
| [17:45:12] | justinh: | GreyFoxx: that'd be useful for the shutdown sequence :) |
| [17:45:20] | jams: | nice little things like this will make mythvantage rule! |
| [17:45:26] | GreyFoxx: | hhe |
| [17:46:02] | GreyFoxx: | and of course at bootup I wipe the /tmp/nomythfe file just incase of a system crash |
| [17:46:13] | leprechau: | hehe...weeee |
| [17:46:18] | jams: | and then of course all the great features will filter into the other distros and once again evrybody is equal. |
| [17:46:25] | leprechau: | I have the slowest CPU on the HD Playback page |
| [17:46:31] | leprechau: | go go old hardware |
| [17:46:51] | GreyFoxx: | Zathraz: Have you tried a channel scan? (Assuming dvb since you mention channels.conf) |
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| [17:47:49] | Zathraz: | I have cable TV. Now the cable company removed some channels and added some |
| [17:47:55] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [17:47:56] | Zathraz: | I prefere to manually edit |
| [17:48:06] | GreyFoxx: | in mythtv-setup you can use the channel editor |
| [17:48:11] | GreyFoxx: | you can add and remove from there |
| [17:48:23] | Zathraz: | k. ty |
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| [17:52:59] | jams: | ok i really hope qt4 fixes some font problems. |
| [17:53:20] | jams: | font size 36 works in 800x600 but not 1280x720 |
| [17:53:56] | jams: | and some font sizes viewable via xfontsel don't work in any myth resolution. |
| [17:54:27] | jams: | assuming it's qt that falls short. |
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| [18:05:25] | Mythster: | hey guys |
| [18:05:28] | Mythster: | i need some help |
| [18:05:37] | Mythster: | i cant get my remote to work |
| [18:06:04] | justinh: | we can't get your remote to work either. not til you say what's up with it |
| [18:06:26] | iamlindoro__: | Thought ArchLinux solved all your problems while simultaneously fluffing you? ;) |
| [18:06:31] | Mythster: | lol |
| [18:07:04] | Mythster: | i dunno whats going on w/ it ... dmegs picks it up |
| [18:08:02] | Mythster: | syas: hiddev0: USD HID v1.10 Device [Dvico bla bla bla] on usb-0000:00:1d.2–2 |
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| [18:08:25] | Mythster: | how do i configure lirc to use that everything i see is just using serial |
| [18:08:28] | justinh: | oooooooooooohhhhhhhh. zx81 original kits available on teh interrawebs :) |
| [18:09:12] | Mythster: | man myth is a big bitch lol |
| [18:09:20] | Mythster: | installing it from source |
| [18:09:33] | justinh: | bah ya big wussie |
| [18:09:38] | Mythster: | hah |
| [18:09:55] | justinh: | myth != lirc |
| [18:09:57] | Mythster: | is it bad that i skipped my lecture to work on this? |
| [18:09:57] | Mythster: | lol |
| [18:10:17] | Mythster: | getting this thing to work has taken over my life this week |
| [18:10:26] | Mythster: | i come home from work/school and work on the pc |
| [18:10:44] | iamlindoro__: | c'mon, surely ArchLinux can #pacman --install-while-making-me-coffee mythtv? |
| [18:10:47] | cal_: | go buy a tivo =) |
| [18:11:04] | Mythster: | lol |
| [18:11:12] | Mythster: | i could have used pacman -S mythtv ... but |
| [18:11:26] | jams: | iamlindoro- whats your beef with archlinux? |
| [18:11:26] | Mythster: | i kinda went crazy earlier and deleted some libs |
| [18:11:36] | Mythster: | guess what.. now i need those libs |
| [18:12:16] | iamlindoro__: | jams, I don't have any great problem with it, just teasing him over his "ArchLinux is perfect" talk from last night :) |
| [18:12:22] | directhex: | jams, arch users act like apple users! |
| [18:12:25] | jams: | ah |
| [18:13:04] | jams: | iamlindoro- just seemed like you ran into a couple fan boys |
| [18:13:19] | directhex: | jams, yes, he did. arch users act like apple users! |
| [18:13:40] | iamlindoro__: | jams, heh, It's immature of me, I know, just taking my chance to get in a dig :D |
| [18:14:05] | jams: | i will admit there has been a shift in the demographic of some of the newer arch users. |
| [18:14:40] | directhex: | i think it's gained users who find gentoo too mainstream |
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| [18:20:16] | jams: | possible isuppose, but the two really are nothing alike. |
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| [19:37:48] | Tobias92: | Hello mythtv people. I've got a quick question, is it possible to write plugins for mythtv? Cause I wrote some C# code in mono that parses the input of my Logitech gamepad and it'd be awesome if I could write that to a fifo, like mplayer handles it, to "steer" mythtv with my gamepad |
| [19:38:58] | iamlindoro__: | Yup, there's a page on the wiki about writing plugins for myth |
| [19:39:32] | iamlindoro__: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Building_Plugins:HelloMyth |
| [19:39:53] | Tobias92: | Thank you iamlindoro__ :) |
| [19:39:58] | iamlindoro__: | np |
| [19:42:03] | jams: | Tobias92- the builtin joystick support doesn't work ? |
| [19:43:03] | jams: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Joystick_Control |
| [19:43:31] | Tobias92: | jams, to be honest with you, I havent tried it yet, I'm only just planning to buy a tv card compatible with linux. I also like doing things myself, and I didnt expect joysticks to be supported :) |
| [19:47:20] | CaptObviousman: | mythtv is really a very big project now |
| [19:47:29] | CaptObviousman: | chances are someone's thought of it somewhere and started tinkering =P |
| [19:48:12] | jams: | Tobias92- if it doesn't work..i can't imagine the plugin route would help you any. I would use the telnet interface to control the frontend. |
| [19:49:05] | Tobias92: | jams, I can actually write to a localhost socket? |
| [19:49:14] | Tobias92: | Or what do you mean by telnet frontend |
| [19:49:45] | jams: | each frontend has the ability to be controlled via a remote port. |
| [19:50:32] | jams: | often it's used interactively via telnet..but it's not hard to automate it, as it doesn't ask for user/pass |
| [19:51:09] | jams: | if you sent the string "Next" to the port it will move the menu to the next item. |
| [19:51:19] | Tobias92: | Okay, lovely, I'll be sure to look into that :) |
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| [19:51:51] | Tobias92: | on another matter, is there any list of linux and mythtv cards I could look at, or any brand of tv card you recommend? |
| [19:52:02] | opentrinity: | hi * |
| [19:54:38] | CaptObviousman: | Tobias92: there's lists on linuxtv.org of supported cards |
| [19:56:12] | Tobias92: | okay thanks |
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| [20:04:28] | opentrinity: | in MythTv there is PiP function? |
| [20:06:27] | iamlindoro__: | opentrinity, Yes... While watching TV, press "M", and there is a PIP menu option |
| [20:06:34] | iamlindoro__: | I have never used it, so I don't know any more |
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| [20:06:58] | iamlindoro__: | You need multiple tuners to use it, though |
| [20:07:06] | opentrinity: | iamlindoro_ i press M but i don't find...i try again |
| [20:07:28] | ** iamlindoro__ makes a note to start a PiP wiki page at some point ** | |
| [20:07:31] | opentrinity: | P.S. hi iamlindoro__ |
| [20:08:09] | iamlindoro__: | hi |
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| [20:10:50] | opentrinity: | iamlindoro__ I have a hybrid card but analogue is not set in mythtv (:-/) ...in winzoz with terratec software i have used PiP |
| [20:11:30] | opentrinity: | anyway is not vital....i study the problem |
| [20:11:51] | iamlindoro__: | opentrinity, Yeah, I just don't know, I am sorry |
| [20:12:05] | iamlindoro__: | opentrinity, Not enough experience with PiP here |
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| [20:12:29] | opentrinity: | don't say to me sorry....u have saved me :-) |
| [20:12:38] | iamlindoro__: | haha, not at all |
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| [20:19:04] | Toxicity999: | Without skimming waaay too many commits... and major coolness in Trunk in the last week or so? Haven't compiled trunk in awhile. |
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| [20:19:21] | iamlindoro__: | multirec merge |
| [20:19:23] | iamlindoro__: | is the big thing |
| [20:19:36] | Toxicity999: | Mmm doesn't apply to me too much. |
| [20:19:39] | Toxicity999: | But cool none the less |
| [20:20:02] | iamlindoro__: | No ATSC, huh? |
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| [20:20:10] | iamlindoro__: | or just like me, shitty multiplexes? :) |
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| [20:21:40] | Toxicity999: | Just analog cable. |
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| [20:21:59] | Toxicity999: | =[ |
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| [20:22:54] | iamlindoro__: | ah, shame |
| [20:23:07] | iamlindoro__: | well maybe one day it'll be of some use to you |
| [20:25:23] | Toxicity999: | I assume you mean maybe one day I'll have proper digital... I don'y see multi record working realistically on analog =P |
| [20:25:33] | iamlindoro__: | yes, that is what I mean |
| [20:27:36] | Kyler: | Alright, I finally got around to ordering a couple of the FireFly RF remotes. (Thanks, siXy!) Now I'm trying to figure out what to do about HD satellite service. Stay with DishNetwork or go DirecTV? |
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| [20:28:13] | iamlindoro__: | Heh, well in neither case will you be able to get HD into myth (well, until Hauppauge releases their capture box this year)... so might as well go with who has the better programming |
| [20:28:20] | iamlindoro__: | I prefer Dish's lineup |
| [20:28:42] | Tanthrix_: | iamlindoro__: How's the quality in comparison to Comcast? |
| [20:29:18] | jduggan: | blah – hdmi to my tv worked great @ 1280x720 for cpl days – updated mythbuntu and its stuck running at 720x576 which nvidia says is default safe setting – i cant get it doing native 720p :( |
| [20:29:24] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix_, with Dish? I'd say it's as good if not slightly better on the SD channels, and about the same on the HD channels |
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| [20:30:07] | iamlindoro__: | My folks have dish... I like the lineup because there's a *lot* of worldwide sports you can't get on Comcast... they are chomping at the bit to get the Hauppauge device in a few months |
| [20:30:27] | Tanthrix_: | iamlindoro: Interesting. How about reliability of service? |
| [20:30:28] | iamlindoro__: | HDNet seems cool, too, would love to get that on Comcast but they don't carry it |
| [20:30:34] | Kyler: | iamlindoro__: I figure that it's time to get stuff ordered and installed while I wait for the Hauppage device. |
| [20:30:54] | jhp: | Hi, I have a problem with my remote. I have a RC6 M$ 1039 that came bundled with my Hauptpage 500. The remote configs that are on the lirc site don't seem to work so I created my own. This one works ok, exept for one thing. I almost allways have to press the buttons twice. |
| [20:30:57] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix_, They have no troubles whatsover, *but* keep in mind it's California and we get 320 days of sunshine a year :) |
| [20:31:28] | iamlindoro__: | Kyler, I'd do the same, except my condo faces southwest instead of southeast, grrrr... no place to put the dish |
| [20:31:36] | Tanthrix_: | iamlindoro: Aye, quite the opposite here in Portland. |
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| [20:32:00] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix_, yeah, I guess AVSforum would be the best place to check on local experiences |
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| [20:33:09] | iamlindoro__: | I even have a dishnet Dish and tuner... just no view of the birds, damnit |
| [20:33:15] | Kyler: | I like not having my current DishNetwork receivers connected to the phone line (which I still plan to remove). |
| [20:33:46] | Kyler: | I wonder if I'll have to do things differently when I switch to HD. I assume DirecTV would make me connect to the phone. |
| [20:33:59] | Tanthrix_: | iamlindoro: Can't just run some coax up to the roof? |
| [20:34:14] | iamlindoro__: | Roof is "common area," so not allowed |
| [20:34:22] | Kyler: | BTW, I was looking at crazy ideas like interfacing Myth to AppleTV or some other IP TV service. |
| [20:34:24] | jhp: | Is there someone here that has a sollution for my problem? |
| [20:35:09] | iamlindoro__: | If there was (and they were willing to answer) they'd probably answer... |
| [20:35:41] | iamlindoro__: | not to mention sometimes solutions show up many minutes after the question as people read back |
| [20:36:03] | jduggan: | jhp: look at repeat rates in your config |
| [20:36:19] | Tanthrix_: | iamlindoro: That sucks. That's part of the reason I'm not a huge fan of shared walls / roofs in any form. If you can't cover all four sides in satellite dishes and pink flamingos, it's not really yours. ;) |
| [20:36:45] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix_, Heh, it's as real as it gets for me right now when a 1-bedroom costs $400,000 |
| [20:36:57] | Tanthrix_: | True enough. |
| [20:37:08] | iamlindoro__: | But noted, and agreed... next house. |
| [20:37:24] | jhp: | jduggan: Is there any keywork that you think about? |
| [20:37:53] | thing: | is it possible to enable skipping of commercials during playback of videos (ie. not recordings)? |
| [20:38:08] | jhp: | I have tried the min_repeat keyword in lircd.conf, according to the config this should send the pressed key twice if you set it to 2. |
| [20:38:13] | jhp: | But this didn't help |
| [20:38:15] | iamlindoro__: | You would have to import them into the recordings and then commflag them |
| [20:38:48] | Tanthrix_: | iamlindoro: In my neighorhood, you can get a 3 bedroom for around $250,000 – not a great one, of course, but a house never the less. |
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| [20:39:30] | Tanthrix_: | Add $100,000 for a bit more style and class. |
| [20:39:39] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix_, heh, yeah... the low(er) cost of living elsewhere isn't lost on me... But I've got familia here and work, and I manage to make ends meet, so I suppose for now it will do, until I get restless |
| [20:40:11] | Tanthrix_: | Oh, of course. In fact, I can't see myself ever moving too far from Portland, no matter how great a job exists elsewhere. |
| [20:40:57] | Kyler: | thing: Recordings are flagged (at some point) and then either the flags are honored or not during playback. You can manually cause a recording to be flagged at playback time ("job options"). |
| [20:41:07] | Tanthrix_: | It's lost on me how people can gallavant around every few years halfway across the country. Then again, I suppose if money is no option you can fly anywhere at the drop of a hat. |
| [20:41:12] | iamlindoro__: | Kyler, Not in MythVideo he can't |
| [20:42:07] | iamlindoro__: | One needs to use myth.rebuilddatabase.pl to import them, and then commflag in order to do that. |
| [20:42:10] | Kyler: | iamlindoro__: Ooooh...that's what he meant by "videos" vs. "recordings". Duh. Sorry about that. |
| [20:42:16] | iamlindoro__: | no big deal |
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| [20:42:53] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix_, I love travel and have lived a bunch of places, but I'm far closer to 30 than 20 now, so having a stable home doesn't seem as bad any more |
| [20:42:54] | Kyler: | (I very rarely use MythVideo. I run mplayer directly.) |
| [20:43:53] | Kyler: | So...you _could_ stuff an arbitrary video into MythTV, commercial flag it, "transcode" it with breaks and put it back into MythVideo. |
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| [20:44:29] | Kyler: | ...or just extract the juicy bits from mythcommflag. |
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| [20:45:30] | iamlindoro__: | Kyler, The commflag would be gone if you put it back in mythvideo |
| [20:45:42] | iamlindoro__: | and Mythtranscode can only do lossless on mpeg-2 |
| [20:45:51] | Tanthrix_: | I really ought to get a 802.11g card for this old powerbook. Bah at dropped connections. |
| [20:46:07] | iamlindoro__: | so unless you import an mpeg-2 video, commflag, and cut it lossless, you're stuck with everything else staying in Watch Recordings |
| [20:46:21] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix_, how old a powerbook? |
| [20:46:24] | thing: | oh no ;-) |
| [20:46:29] | Kyler: | iamlindoro__: The commflagging would just be used for nuvexport. |
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| [20:47:36] | iamlindoro__: | not sure nuvexport can handle more than a few formats |
| [20:47:51] | Tanthrix_: | iamlindoro: Tibook G4 – not a mac person, but I was essentially paid $250 to take it, through an elaborate series of events including a repair, a sale of the unit itself, a sale of the broken parts, and the buying back of the notebook by me |
| [20:48:18] | Tanthrix_: | iamlindoro: (Starting with it being given to me for free, since it had a shattered screen.) |
| [20:48:28] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix_, pm me your address, I have a Macbook (first model) mini-pci 802.11g card in my hand, I'll put it in an envelope today and send it to you |
| [20:48:39] | iamlindoro__: | It may not work, but it's the worst off you'd be |
| [20:48:55] | iamlindoro__: | It's part # AR5BXB6 |
| [20:49:17] | Tanthrix_: | I don't want to trouble you, that's far too much work for your part ;) |
| [20:49:32] | xris: | iamlindoro__: it will do whatever formats people program it to. nuvexport is just a wrapper for ffmpeg/transcode/mencoder |
| [20:50:08] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix_, Pfft, I'll use a work envelope, and the mailbox is right outside... I've had it pinned to my board for months since I swapped it for an n card |
| [20:50:49] | iamlindoro__: | xris, Hmm, good to know! Oh, wait, you would know... how does it handle your "damaged" Discovery channel 1080i stuff? |
| [20:51:01] | Tanthrix_: | iamlindoro: Well thanks, I appreciate that! Can I paypal you some shipping money? |
| [20:51:11] | iamlindoro__: | 'cause Iknow I can transcode just fine with ffmpeg, but it's the commercial cutting that I would like to get back |
| [20:51:34] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix_, not necessary, especially since it may not even work, all it costs me is a stamp, it'll be coming to you via slow mule ;) |
| [20:51:55] | Tanthrix_: | iamlindoro: Thanks! That's very kind of you. PM coming. |
| [20:52:44] | iamlindoro__: | no problem... send it to the one with the two underscores so I can get it out today |
| [20:54:55] | xris: | iamlindoro__: works just fine. it all goes through mythtranscode to decompress the data |
| [20:55:03] | xris: | brb irc client is wacky |
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| [20:55:51] | iamlindoro__: | xris: hmm, see, mythtranscode is what I worry about.. every time I feed mythtranscode one of my firewire recordings, it error 232's... can I avoid that by using nuvexport? |
| [20:56:25] | xris: | iamlindoro__: that's for transcode, not decode |
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| [20:56:32] | xris: | the problem is when it tries to reencode the file |
| [20:56:45] | xris: | if mythtv can play the file, nuvexport can convert it |
| [20:57:00] | iamlindoro__: | xris, Ah, phenominal! I'll have to look at that tonight |
| [20:57:04] | Tanthrix_: | iamlindoro__: Get my PM? I'm on the freenode java irc client right now over this poor wifi signal, so I'm not totally sure it got through |
| [20:57:11] | iamlindoro__: | In that case, thanks for writing it! |
| [20:57:18] | Tanthrix_: | Crazy java irc clients, they're all buggy as hell. |
| [20:57:26] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix_, no nothing yet, but it's probably that neither of us are auth'ed, from this computer anyway |
| [20:57:43] | xris: | iamlindoro__: the downfall of nuvexport is that you lose quality by transcoding... fwiw, mythtranscode can transcode those files just fine into nuv/mpeg4... it's the lossless stuff that it has trouble with. |
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| [20:58:19] | iamlindoro__: | xris, Pfft, for archival purposes I mostly do lossless commercial cut -> x264/AAC anyway, so not an issue here at all |
| [20:58:20] | xris: | I converted all of my planet earth recordings to de-interlaced 720 24fps. looks great, but not as nice as the originals, of course |
| [20:58:50] | iamlindoro__: | Just as long as I can get the commercials out, I'll be a perfectly happy man |
| [20:59:10] | xris: | I've pondered redoing them at slightly higher bitrate for near identical quality (at lower res) |
| [20:59:46] | iamlindoro__: | I had scripted a sort of messy mythcutlist -> EDL hack, but it sounds like your way is more polished |
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| [21:00:34] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix, I got that one, send away |
| [21:00:42] | iamlindoro__: | (I can't msg back on this box) |
| [21:01:56] | Tanthrix: | I'm VNCed in to my home computer, heh. Ghosting the nick only worked for a second until it automatically logged itself back on. |
| [21:02:12] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix, Got it... Will send today if possible, and if not, once I grab a padded envelope I'll send it tomorrow |
| [21:02:29] | Tanthrix: | At your convenience, of course. |
| [21:02:37] | iamlindoro__: | (If I send it in a regular envelope, I think it would get caught in the sorting machines and never get there) |
| [21:02:50] | iamlindoro__: | If I can dig one up today, I'll drop it in the mail then |
| [21:03:09] | Tanthrix: | My only worry is that this thing is too old to support the card |
| [21:04:02] | iamlindoro__: | Well, google that product # and see... But i have a feeling it will work |
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| [21:04:24] | iamlindoro__: | oh, it's bluetooth also, btw |
| [21:04:47] | iamlindoro__: | At least.. I think I recall it being :) |
| [21:05:23] | Tanthrix: | Hehe, cool. And yah, I have been. Nothing too conclusive yet. |
| [21:06:30] | iamlindoro__: | The minipci card I put in the macbook was for a much newer mac pro... but worked like a charm |
| [21:07:55] | Tanthrix: | It looks like it's minipci express, which I'm nearly certain is too new for this old thing |
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| [21:09:11] | matooke: | is there a way to stream a recorded video to another pc instead of downloading the entire movie? |
| [21:09:25] | directhex: | erm... yes |
| [21:09:36] | matooke: | how? I am interested. |
| [21:09:38] | directhex: | use a mythtv or upnp frontend |
| [21:10:07] | directhex: | mythfrontend on linux; mythtv player or windows media player 11 on windows; sony ps3 as a set-top option |
| [21:10:35] | matooke: | Ok thanx. will try those. |
| [21:11:41] | directhex: | http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=10005&page=8 |
| [21:12:24] | Tanthrix: | iamlindoro__: Yah, I'm pretty sure it won't work. This thing is just too old, my only option is a PC card I think. Thanks anyway. |
| [21:12:36] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix, OK, no problem, sorry about that |
| [21:13:07] | Tanthrix: | It's one of the original ones – 677mhz I believe |
| [21:13:23] | iamlindoro__: | ah, yeah, ok, Thought you had the just-before-macbook pro type |
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| [21:13:48] | Tanthrix: | (And amusingly enough, it has better battery life and is significantly smaller than pretty much every modern pc laptop out there, despite being like 7–8 years old) |
| [21:14:23] | Tanthrix: | I wish Apple would open their stuff up to windows. (In a more official sense, other than bootcamp) |
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| [21:14:42] | iamlindoro__: | Tanthrix, I virtualize Windows with Parallels, it's fantastic |
| [21:15:16] | directhex: | as long as you don't want d3d or gl |
| [21:15:22] | Kyler: | I just noticed that the DishNetwork HD receiver has USB and Ethernet..."for future use." Oh, if only they'd make this easy! |
| [21:15:27] | iamlindoro__: | Parallels does hardware accel now |
| [21:15:43] | directhex: | iamlindoro__, dx8, software t&l |
| [21:15:53] | directhex: | and only with 2k or xp |
| [21:16:02] | Tanthrix: | Interesting |
| [21:16:06] | iamlindoro__: | Well who in their right mind would run *Vista*? :) |
| [21:16:19] | directhex: | iamlindoro__, it's the least bad windows yet! |
| [21:16:26] | iamlindoro__: | I watched a video of those guys running TF2 in Parallels, I think |
| [21:16:39] | ** cafuego forces directhex to eat his medication ** | |
| [21:16:58] | Tanthrix: | directhex: It does gl too. Check the wikipedia article. |
| [21:17:00] | directhex: | iamlindoro__, all valve's hl2 games have renderers for dx7 and dx8 |
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| [21:18:34] | directhex: | cafuego, really. there are things to like in vista |
| [21:18:44] | cafuego: | Swallow it! |
| [21:18:47] | Tanthrix: | Yes. But not enough. |
| [21:19:43] | iamlindoro__: | Parallels is pretty cool in that you can run Win apps just like X11 Apps on mac... still windows widgets, but otherwise in windows that behave like Mac ones, ie expose, etc. |
| [21:19:58] | Tanthrix: | That's pretty nifty. |
| [21:19:58] | iamlindoro__: | or, if you like, you can run windowed-windows |
| [21:20:28] | ** Tanthrix runs off ** | |
| [21:21:17] | directhex: | microsoft virtual pc was doing the "native" windows windows thing on ppc macs yonks ago |
| [21:21:53] | cafuego: | And before that my Quadra 610dos did it natively <heh> |
| [21:22:36] | iamlindoro__: | Didn't say it was new, just that it was helpful |
| [21:22:48] | iamlindoro__: | not to mention Virtual PC for Intel Macs is a no-show :) |
| [21:22:59] | iamlindoro__: | You *can* do it with VMWare, though, too |
| [21:23:30] | iamlindoro__: | Since the comparison was between Parallels and boot camp, which obviously cannot do so |
| [21:25:19] | directhex: | what can windows do that osx can't? |
| [21:25:33] | iamlindoro__: | Run windows software :) |
| [21:25:52] | directhex: | which windows software lacks an equivalent? |
| [21:26:07] | cafuego: | OSX has a wine port, so can run windows software |
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| [21:26:13] | iamlindoro__: | To say that everything that exists on a PC exists on mac is disingenuous... |
| [21:26:17] | cafuego: | Why you'd want to is a different question |
| [21:26:47] | directhex: | wine on osx isn't exactly ready for users to use |
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| [21:27:10] | iamlindoro__: | And believe me, I'm Mac OS X only (besides my myth boxes) at home, but sometimes no equivalent exists... and I can run it unreliably on WINE, or I can run it pretty damn reliably virtualized.. so why the fuss? |
| [21:27:17] | directhex: | last i tried it it was running less than a tenth of the apps that were fine for me on wine on linux |
| [21:27:34] | iamlindoro__: | It's not as though I'm advocating windows |
| [21:27:59] | ** cafuego has not used windows programs for nigh on 2 years now and finds he doesn't need them ** | |
| [21:28:09] | cafuego: | The world didn't end, I didn't catch a disease... |
| [21:28:42] | iamlindoro__: | Well, for one, there's my company's in-house software that runs only on windows, so not a whole lot I can do about that |
| [21:28:58] | iamlindoro__: | You act as though I'm choosing windows for superiority rather than necessity |
| [21:30:46] | ** cafuego is not an actor ** | |
| [21:31:16] | iamlindoro__: | oooookay... |
| [21:32:05] | directhex: | i got ham but i'm not a hamster... |
| [21:32:14] | iamlindoro__: | xris, is there a mode= option for h.264? |
| [21:32:36] | justinh: | I look forward to the day a linux video editor can compare with final cut, premier or sony vegas :) |
| [21:32:53] | cafuego: | justinh: beh, ffmpeg and cat ftw ;-) |
| [21:33:04] | iamlindoro__: | pfffft, not even close |
| [21:33:17] | justinh: | wow. I hadn't realised ffmpeg & cat can do complex compositing & effects |
| [21:33:32] | cafuego: | Mind you, I do use OSX and Apple video apps. |
| [21:33:49] | KaZeR: | anyone ever had this? MPEGRec(/dev/v4l/video0) Error: Error getting codec params using old IVTV ioctl |
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| [21:33:56] | cafuego: | Seeing as they lack suckage that is there in spades on say cinelerra |
| [21:34:02] | directhex: | justinh, a problem that's been annoying me lately is the inability of open source advocates to consciously consider that there are areas where proprietary is currently better |
| [21:34:21] | justinh: | directhex: there are open source advocates and those who refuse to see the truth |
| [21:35:01] | iamlindoro__: | It's the "checklist mentality." People who beleive that when two items are put side by side and compared with a featurelist, that the one with the longer list is the better product |
| [21:35:30] | directhex: | iamlindoro__, i'm always reminded of freeciv when i think of blind advocates |
| [21:35:47] | rushfan: | hehe. what a god awful game |
| [21:35:48] | iamlindoro__: | This is why all the smartphone manufacturer's attempts to demonstrate how they are superior to the iphone come up short |
| [21:35:55] | iamlindoro__: | heh |
| [21:36:20] | justinh: | iamlindoro__: yeah I've no doubt that there are scores of people using propriatary 'pro' softwarez when something less fussy, more Fisher Price would do :) |
| [21:36:23] | directhex: | rushfan, thing is, it's great on paper! it's an almost complete rip-off of the civ2 ruleset! |
| [21:36:46] | justinh: | it's great when you 'don't pay for it', so I hear |
| [21:36:49] | iamlindoro__: | justinh, exactly |
| [21:36:53] | cafuego: | Then again, Civ3 runs fine in wine <heh> |
| [21:37:36] | justinh: | anyway, let's see where we're all at if mythtv is ever able to run fully on windows. Oh boy. |
| [21:37:37] | directhex: | i look at lots of open source apps, and it's like comparing http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/13/keepin-it- . . . x-the-vii-2/ to the nintendo wii |
| [21:37:44] | directhex: | they Just Don't Get It |
| [21:38:17] | justinh: | lol |
| [21:39:31] | directhex: | or this genuine sony psp! http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/17/keepin-it- . . . s-not-a-psp/ |
| [21:40:13] | justinh: | a real genuine fony poospe ? :) |
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| [21:40:38] | at0m|c: | does it have a doovde? |
| [21:41:03] | justinh: | is it ready for de hud? |
| [21:41:21] | directhex: | i was looking at kde4 screenshots today |
| [21:41:32] | directhex: | and thinking "that's vista, that's vista, that's macosx" |
| [21:41:35] | justinh: | ahh fonejacker. we loved you so, then the joke wore thin. very thin |
| [21:42:15] | iamlindoro__: | xris, What are the odds of you throwing MPEG-2 -> MPEG-2 back in there for those of us with busted-ass streams? Or even a x.264 transcode profile, maybe? |
| [21:43:02] | ** cafuego had a 2 minute play with KDE4 a week or 2 ago ** | |
| [21:43:02] | justinh: | directhex: see the new 'beautiful' icons? didn't look all that different to what's already there IMHO. not saying I could draw better in inkscape but that's not my job |
| [21:43:22] | xris: | iamlindoro__: mp4 does x264.. and the lossless mpeg2 stuff wouldn't really work now, anyway. |
| [21:43:25] | CaptObviousman: | has anyone made a livecd with kde4 yet? |
| [21:43:37] | justinh: | what's gonna happen when the current 'shiny shiny' with reflections fad dies? and it will... |
| [21:43:55] | CaptObviousman: | something else equally as random will replace it |
| [21:44:00] | iamlindoro__: | xris, Oh, hmm, I was just reading the wiki, it must be out of date... only x.264 item I saw was iPod... Guess I should actually *try* the program ;) |
| [21:44:04] | cafuego: | justinh: Isn't it only used in an ironic sense anymore anyway? |
| [21:44:10] | justinh: | CaptObviousman: yeah but Apple will do it first :) |
| [21:44:20] | CaptObviousman: | cafuego: Apple icons are still glassy 3d erized |
| [21:44:22] | justinh: | cafuego: nope |
| [21:44:52] | cafuego: | Hm |
| [21:45:00] | justinh: | maybe really elegant vector line art will have its day again soon |
| [21:45:11] | cafuego: | Computers users in the 2010's will probably just point and laugh |
| [21:45:15] | ** CaptObviousman wants to see more icons with nudity in them ** | |
| [21:45:38] | justinh: | CaptObviousman: problem with that is the GPL porn models |
| [21:45:45] | justinh: | aka readers' wives |
| [21:46:02] | cafuego: | Nono, 50% would have to be male nudes. |
| [21:46:02] | CaptObviousman: | come on man, 32x32 nipple, what's not to like |
| [21:46:17] | directhex: | justinh, my fad never caught on :( |
| [21:46:19] | justinh: | pretty low WAF if you ask me |
| [21:46:28] | CaptObviousman: | WAF? |
| [21:46:34] | xris: | iamlindoro__: ipod went away when I got my own ipod and started tweaking things to do higher-res h.264 encodes |
| [21:46:37] | justinh: | unless she's bidirectional of course... |
| [21:46:47] | xris: | CaptObviousman: wife acceptance factor |
| [21:47:11] | directhex: | justinh, i like smooth, seamless things. e.g. the menu cascade on http://www.osnews.com/img/632/zsnake.png |
| [21:47:31] | iamlindoro__: | xris, any chance nuvexport is out of sync with current database schema? I'm getting error re: No RecordFilePrefix defined for mythtv in the settings table. |
| [21:47:38] | iamlindoro__: | xris, Which my database lacks entirely :) |
| [21:48:07] | xris: | iamlindoro__: if you're running svn, you need nuvexport 0.5 from mythtv svn.. trunk/mythextras/nuvexport |
| [21:48:15] | iamlindoro__: | ah, ok, perfect, thanks |
| [21:48:23] | xris: | and you need the mythtv perl bindings to be installed (which they should be by default) |
| [21:48:42] | iamlindoro__: | yeah, got 'em |
| [21:50:26] | directhex: | i love the look of the applications menu in http://vdepizzol.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/ubuntu-hardy1.jpg – but it really needs a z-snake! |
| [21:50:49] | justinh: | eew. have they not heard of font anti-aliasing? |
| [21:51:23] | justinh: | (the 1st screenshot btw) |
| [21:51:25] | ** cafuego likes the 'Your microphone is mute'. ** | |
| [21:51:36] | directhex: | justinh, beos's font rendering was notoriously aliased |
| [21:51:48] | ** cafuego hasn't ever heard of speaking ones ** | |
| [21:52:34] | iamlindoro__: | Canonical really *does* seem to "get it" when it comes to ease-of-use... each release makes big strides forward |
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| [21:52:49] | justinh: | in shades of yummy brown. nice |
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| [21:53:57] | directhex: | iamlindoro__, WAF is reasonable in gnome |
| [21:54:16] | iamlindoro__: | No W here to A it, but I can still appreciate the pretty and the easy ;) |
| [21:54:36] | justinh: | see the W for pretty & easy :) |
| [21:54:36] | cafuego: | my W uses it and is happy with all but the file search functionality |
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| [21:54:54] | cafuego: | though Evolution could do with the odd stability enhancement |
| [21:55:28] | justinh: | my wife'd rather wait for her laptop to boot than use linux |
| [21:55:42] | justinh: | can't blame her either |
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| [21:56:01] | cafuego: | my wife's laptop runs Linux also |
| [21:56:10] | iamlindoro__: | I'm running for Charity this year... maybe I'll find me a nice runner W |
| [21:56:28] | justinh: | I tried booting a livecd on her laptop. worked in console mode very well. |
| [21:56:44] | gandalfcome: | I have some trouble with xmltv and sources and epg: My mythtv box worked fine with just the eit videosource. I added a xmltv and then had 2 video sources. I deleted the first one in mythweb with the hope that the second one with the xmltvid's will work. Now recording doesnt work anymore. I want xmltv data backed up by eit/epg data. please help. |
| [21:56:59] | cafuego: | though she's switching back to OSX, wants a v 1.1 Airbook |
| [21:57:11] | iamlindoro__: | Canonical needs to hire an english major, though, for god's sake... "No sound was listened by the Acessibility Application?" |
| [21:57:15] | iamlindoro__: | Listened? Acessibility? |
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| [21:57:33] | ** iamlindoro__ circles the above in red pen. ** | |
| [21:57:52] | justinh: | iamlindoro__: very quality to impress upon customers of note |
| [21:58:33] | iamlindoro__: | I like the Asus boxes... "Rock Solid, Heart touching." WTF does that *mean*? |
| [21:58:47] | iamlindoro__: | I don't *want* my motherboard to touch my heart. |
| [21:58:56] | cafuego: | iamlindoro__: Suited for surgery, yes |
| [21:58:59] | iamlindoro__: | haha |
| [21:59:13] | justinh: | asus make life support machines now? |
| [21:59:37] | cafuego: | Eeepcs are small enough to implant, surely |
| [21:59:38] | ** justinh ponders getting into the wikimobile again ** | |
| [21:59:55] | CaptObviousman: | every asus motherboard is equipped with a hidden needle that will stab you in the heart when you're not looking |
| [22:00:04] | justinh: | on 2nd thoughts, no. don't make me. you can't make me do it |
| [22:00:07] | CaptObviousman: | helps keep you on your toes |
| [22:00:16] | directhex: | Captain_Murdoch, i'd be happier if they wrote bioses that worked instead |
| [22:00:24] | iamlindoro__: | Then change it to something like, "Asus. Because we we fuck you up." |
| [22:00:27] | cafuego: | CaptObviousman: Oh, so that's what got Steve Irwin? |
| [22:00:30] | iamlindoro__: | er we will |
| [22:00:53] | CaptObviousman: | the stingray was just an elaborate coverup |
| [22:01:10] | justinh: | maybe stingray was an asus prototype codename |
| [22:01:10] | iamlindoro__: | stabbed in the heart by an illiterate Taiwanese motherboard. It's always a shame when that happens. |
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| [22:01:22] | ** CaptObviousman mounrs for about 0.06 seconds ** | |
| [22:01:27] | iamlindoro__: | Holy tangent, Batman. |
| [22:03:12] | ** CaptObviousman is good at that ** | |
| [22:03:17] | ** CaptObviousman has difficult decision ** | |
| [22:03:25] | CaptObviousman: | do I go to class, or go home and finish building the HTPC |
| [22:03:31] | ** CaptObviousman has had a terrible day today ** | |
| [22:04:20] | justinh: | start redecorating the Cistine Chapel instead |
| [22:04:59] | justinh: | with GIMP |
| [22:05:00] | CaptObviousman: | I think they would just kill me on the spot |
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| [22:05:17] | iamlindoro__: | Naw, some dude already did that, took him like 10 years. |
| [22:05:36] | gandalfcome: | what are video sources exactley? |
| [22:05:52] | iamlindoro__: | <cue naming flamewar> |
| [22:05:59] | justinh: | I feel bored, frustrated & unmotivated. the prospect of still needing to watch Torchwood isn't making me look forward to that either |
| [22:06:31] | justinh: | video sauces are condiments you sprinkle on VHS tapes to make them taste nicer |
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| [22:07:39] | justinh: | in mythtv a 'video source', believe it or not is termed by some as 'where the video comes from' – i.e. the EPG data source |
| [22:07:57] | justinh: | if that doesn't confuse you, have a read of the -dev list thread about it |
| [22:09:06] | directhex: | the video doesn't come from the epg, the video comes from the tv card! |
| [22:09:29] | justinh: | no the video comes down the antenna into the EPG data source via the input connection thing |
| [22:09:37] | justinh: | the hip bone's connected to the... |
| [22:09:48] | jduggan: | nose bone |
| [22:09:58] | directhex: | flaming piles of arse, how arse-flamingly arse-flaming |
| [22:09:59] | iamlindoro__: | No, the video comes the the provider to the antenna to the EPG data source via the input connection thing |
| [22:10:01] | justinh: | can't you see it? oh man it's so simple. I just can't believe you don't get it |
| [22:10:06] | gandalfcome: | well so the video sources is more an epg source, right? |
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| [22:10:14] | directhex: | gandalfcome, yes |
| [22:10:17] | iamlindoro__: | gandalfcome, Hahah, yes, you've got it |
| [22:10:25] | justinh: | gandalfcome: yeah but try telling some people that. they'll have ya |
| [22:10:35] | iamlindoro__: | we're having a bit of fun because there is a lot of history on this topic |
| [22:11:05] | directhex: | just because you can code, doesn't mean you're not a retard and full of shit. some people must learn this |
| [22:11:16] | gandalfcome: | and is then connected to the actual sourve via this inut con...thingamagic |
| [22:11:28] | directhex: | "video sources" cannot be called "wrong" in the same way hitler cannot be called "a cad" |
| [22:11:36] | justinh: | directhex: I don't recall many actual devs chipping in on _that_ thread |
| [22:11:55] | iamlindoro__: | right. In short, you define a video card, you define a guide source, you connect them on the next screen, and you're done |
| [22:12:12] | iamlindoro__: | well, might need to scan for channels as appropriate, but that's basically the idea |
| [22:12:57] | gandalfcome: | iamlindoro__: lets make it a little bit more complex: I have two video cards and two guide sources (eit and xmltv). Is it possible to join them up? |
| [22:13:06] | justinh: | gandalfcome: not yet |
| [22:13:22] | justinh: | gandalfcome: the problem lies in show titles/subtitles not always matching up |
| [22:13:31] | iamlindoro__: | if you mean merge the two sources, no... if you maen attach one to one card and one to the other, yes |
| [22:13:38] | justinh: | and the actual data itself not matching in some cases too |
| [22:13:44] | gandalfcome: | justinh: So I just use xmltv, I guess thats easiest |
| [22:13:51] | iamlindoro__: | yup, probably |
| [22:13:57] | iamlindoro__: | you'll get more guide data in general, too |
| [22:14:03] | gandalfcome: | perfect, thanks for the help |
| [22:14:14] | justinh: | but xmltv isn't updated on the fly like EIT can be |
| [22:14:53] | gandalfcome: | Do I get flamed if I suggest in the dev channel to rename "video sources" to "guide sources"? |
| [22:14:56] | justinh: | in some places EIT is missing movie rating stars but it's _always_ missing subtitles |
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| [22:15:22] | iamlindoro__: | flamed by some, adored by others, probably :) |
| [22:15:49] | iamlindoro__: | But it's probably not a great idea, they've definitely heard it |
| [22:16:07] | justinh: | gandalfcome: for it to change like I suggested on the -dev list a while ago, there has to be a consensus. I couldn't get much sense out of the -dev list so I gave up. the core devs (who don't post much) either don't have an opinion or don't agree AFAIK |
| [22:16:27] | iamlindoro__: | Lots of "boo hoo, boo hoo, I call my source VCR because I connect my VCR to that input" |
| [22:16:32] | gandalfcome: | justingh: well I guess you are talking about the us. (with the subtitles) |
| [22:16:35] | justinh: | but they'll all have to agree for it to change |
| [22:16:39] | iamlindoro__: | "Son in that sense it is a video source" rubbish |
| [22:16:42] | iamlindoro__: | er So |
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| [22:17:16] | justinh: | then again if more people RTFM'd it'd be less of an issue & more a 'woo what a funny name for that' |
| [22:17:44] | jams: | justinh- are you familir with qtlook.txt? |
| [22:17:53] | ** justinh hides ** | |
| [22:18:06] | jams: | i attempting to change the color of the highlighted text on buttons. can't find the right entry |
| [22:18:12] | justinh: | I've had quite a few sparring sessions with qtlook.txt |
| [22:18:18] | jams: | hehehe thats what i thought |
| [22:18:21] | gandalfcome: | okay, Ill make the suggestion in the dev channel. If I'm not back in 5 minutes. Don't ever make that suggestion again :D |
| [22:18:25] | justinh: | jams: I've got a hint for you. It's not obvious |
| [22:18:50] | jams: | it's so frustrating attempting to make a consistent look at times. |
| [22:19:19] | directhex: | quick, port myth to a opengl-based toolkit! |
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| [22:19:31] | justinh: | jams: ActiveBrightText I _think_ |
| [22:19:45] | jams: | eh let me try it |
| [22:19:46] | Kazan: | janneg: you there? |
| [22:19:56] | jams: | cause it's sure not activehighlightedtext |
| [22:20:01] | justinh: | jams: what I've done in the past is change one thing to an outlandish colour at a time & look to see if it's changed. |
| [22:20:12] | justinh: | can we put qtlook.txt in the can please? |
| [22:20:27] | justinh: | (pretty please, with a cherry on the top) |
| [22:20:36] | jams: | yes i started doing that but got bored and thought there has to be a better way |
| [22:20:39] | justinh: | gandalfcome: don't do it! |
| [22:20:48] | justinh: | jams: UTSL :) |
| [22:21:23] | justinh: | he's gone & said it. ffs. I hope I don't get blamed |
| [22:21:51] | jams: | nope not activebrighttext |
| [22:22:01] | janneg: | Kazan: yes, I hadn't yet time to look at the file |
| [22:22:10] | CaptObviousman: | haha, he actually said that? |
| [22:22:17] | ** CaptObviousman plays taps for the fallen IRCer ** | |
| [22:22:33] | Kazan: | janneg: k |
| [22:22:53] | Kazan: | what did he request justinh? |
| [22:22:58] | gandalfcome: | justinh: well they are changing it |
| [22:22:58] | Kazan: | i'm not in dev channel right now |
| [22:23:44] | gandalfcome: | justinh: I wish I could say it was me, but they said: we 've decided it a long time ago. |
| [22:23:48] | justinh: | gandalfcome: I didn't say nobody agreed it should be changed. that's not the hard part |
| [22:24:07] | justinh: | the hard part might be getting everybody to agree what it should change to |
| [22:24:10] | tjcarter: | it should be changed! What're we talking about? ;) |
| [22:24:19] | justinh: | section 47! |
| [22:24:36] | ** directhex declares "video badgers" to be no worse than it is now ** | |
| [22:24:54] | justinh: | directhex: they'd have to look it up, fer sure |
| [22:25:08] | justinh: | at least it'd make for funny mailing list traffic |
| [22:25:12] | directhex: | justinh, aren't the menu options internationalized? |
| [22:25:20] | justinh: | directhex: yeah |
| [22:25:33] | iamlindoro__: | Behold the almighty power of the slash... "Program Guide/Sources" |
| [22:25:35] | directhex: | justinh, so... ALL the languages have the retarded menu name? |
| [22:25:37] | iamlindoro__: | ta-da! |
| [22:25:53] | justinh: | directhex: I dunno enough past English to be able to say |
| [22:25:58] | blackest: | actually program guide source would be clear but who would agree to that |
| [22:26:22] | blackest: | wow i didnt see that lindoro |
| [22:26:39] | iamlindoro__: | Aw, all good, it makes too much sense to get adopted, though |
| [22:26:46] | gandalfcome: | thats not subtle enough, how about: "guide to the stars" |
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| [22:27:13] | justinh: | what you've all forgotten is that not everybody who posts on the -dev list is a real dev. very few as a matter of fact |
| [22:27:16] | blackest: | i think the wierd one is having a guide to an av input |
| [22:28:20] | blackest: | its very counter intuitive to need a guide for something which cant have a guide |
| [22:28:39] | directhex: | it's very counter-intuitive to use myth for non-guide things in the first place |
| [22:28:57] | directhex: | honestly, how big is the market for myth users who tape things from the vcr with no guide into "watch recordings"? |
| [22:29:23] | iamlindoro__: | Not to mention you don't need a guide, you just set it to "None." |
| [22:29:31] | blackest: | how about tape things from satellite with no guide info |
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| [22:30:13] | Yahooadam: | clever – are you around? |
| [22:30:18] | blackest: | i wish there was a way to get guide info for my satellite channels |
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| [22:30:28] | clever: | Yahooadam: yep |
| [22:30:40] | fiXXXerMet: | Does anyone have experience with a Motorola DCT6416 III? |
| [22:30:55] | fryfrog: | i think that is what my paretns got :/ |
| [22:30:59] | fryfrog: | or maybe it was DCH :/ |
| [22:31:06] | iamlindoro__: | Just ask your question rather than expecting anyone to have your hardware |
| [22:31:08] | fiXXXerMet: | I am wondering if I can use the firewire on it to transfer video (skipping the tuner card) or if I can change channels with fireewire? |
| [22:31:12] | fiXXXerMet: | Sorry. |
| [22:31:23] | Yahooadam: | can i PM you clever :) |
| [22:31:25] | iamlindoro__: | That depends entirely on your provider |
| [22:31:29] | iamlindoro__: | and not the box |
| [22:31:30] | clever: | Yahooadam: shure |
| [22:31:43] | fiXXXerMet: | Depends if the provider locked the port? |
| [22:31:55] | iamlindoro__: | Or unlocks the port but encrypts all the channels |
| [22:32:01] | directhex: | blackest, but that's explicitly setting "none" in a page for guide data |
| [22:32:52] | justinh: | fiXXXerMet: you might be able to do both :) YMMV |
| [22:33:22] | fiXXXerMet: | I'm calling up their tech support right now to ask. |
| [22:33:30] | iamlindoro__: | fiXXXerMet, with my dch3200 on comcast, I get about 245 out of 250 channels over firewire... but that is more the exception than the rule |
| [22:33:50] | iamlindoro__: | Most people only get local channels (ie networks TV) via firewire |
| [22:33:55] | fiXXXerMet: | poop. |
| [22:33:58] | iamlindoro__: | some get nothing at all, and some get everything |
| [22:34:06] | fiXXXerMet: | What about changing channels? |
| [22:34:10] | iamlindoro__: | But the vast majority fall into the middle group |
| [22:34:17] | fiXXXerMet: | Which is? |
| [22:34:23] | iamlindoro__: | Local only |
| [22:34:44] | directhex: | the legal minimum! |
| [22:35:11] | fryfrog: | what few channels do you *not* get iamlindoro__ ? |
| [22:35:20] | iamlindoro__: | But yes, looks like the firewire channel changer has a line for that box |
| [22:35:31] | fiXXXerMet: | That is super. |
| [22:35:42] | fiXXXerMet: | I don't mind using the coax so long as I can skip the IR for channel changing. |
| [22:35:54] | fryfrog: | fiXXXerMet: use svideo if you can |
| [22:35:57] | iamlindoro__: | fryfrog, Hmm, let's see... A&EHD, one of the locals (Which I *do* get via QAM, so no harm), CinemaxHD, and TBSHD |
| [22:35:59] | fryfrog: | better than coax/rca |
| [22:36:03] | fiXXXerMet: | Ah, yes |
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| [22:36:09] | iamlindoro__: | fryfrog, All my other Hd channels and all my SD channels are unencrypted, though |
| [22:36:13] | fryfrog: | weird that TBSHD is in that list |
| [22:36:17] | fryfrog: | and A&E HD |
| [22:36:28] | fryfrog: | do you get like HBOHD or any other pay chans? |
| [22:36:32] | iamlindoro__: | yaeh, but I don't give a crap about what I don't get... I get Discovery HD, HBOHD, etc. |
| [22:36:40] | fryfrog: | odd |
| [22:36:45] | fryfrog: | makes you wonder who they decided |
| [22:36:51] | fryfrog: | probably mostly accidental or random |
| [22:36:53] | iamlindoro__: | I get about 20 HDs in the clear, five blocked, and about 200 SD's in the clear with none blocked |
| [22:36:53] | jams: | justinh- the source has failed |
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| [22:37:10] | justinh: | jams: ahh it's a Qt thing not a mythic thing. bah! |
| [22:37:16] | jams: | yeah |
| [22:37:38] | justinh: | jams: I need to cut my teeth on a bit more coding & banish those fecking awful qt widgets to damnation |
| [22:38:19] | justinh: | unless Qt4's are substantially nicer and worth waiting for, of course |
| [22:38:26] | jams: | eh i don't mind the look of them, just wish i could take the paintbucket to them |
| [22:39:02] | justinh: | I don't mind the look of them as such either, but it'd be nice to put images around em & above all I wish to $deity they were easier to change |
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| [22:39:45] | jams: | screw it..back to changing one at a time. |
| [22:40:04] | justinh: | they look a bit out of place in some areas too. you to to $effort to make your theme look spiffy & then dullness pops up. being able to do a full custom job might be nice IMHO |
| [22:40:05] | opentrinity: | 'night |
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| [22:40:37] | justinh: | jams: I even tried taking a screenshot once & seeing what the RGB values were :) |
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| [22:41:27] | skd5aner: | Hello :) |
| [22:41:41] | jams: | heh |
| [22:41:48] | jams: | i just want something other then white |
| [22:41:54] | justinh: | jams: something occurred to me. I think I left comments in one of my files |
| [22:42:15] | jams: | oh that could be useful |
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| [22:43:06] | justinh: | jams: http://pastebin.ca/859112 |
| [22:43:21] | justinh: | only commented as many as I'd changed I'm afraid but it'll be a start |
| [22:46:34] | jams: | sucks it seems that activebuttontext affects all the active buttons, just not the highlighed/selected one. |
| [22:46:47] | jams: | and ActiveHighlightedText seems to do nothing. |
| [22:48:07] | justinh: | jams: I think you have to do a frontend restart sometimes, not just a reload theme |
| [22:48:16] | jams: | i am |
| [22:48:23] | justinh: | okees :) |
| [22:49:00] | justinh: | I'll see if I can dig up the qt doc I once found that explains it |
| [22:50:13] | jams: | it shouldn't be this difficult, maybe it's not possible |
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| [23:00:35] | iamlindoro__: | Mwahahahahaha!! http://kotaku.com/346211/bionic-commando-rearmed-in-motion |
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| [23:00:52] | justinh: | I can't remember but it's possible I gave up on it |
| [23:02:02] | jams: | justinh- i don't remember seeing any other theme do it, so guess i give up |
| [23:02:47] | justinh: | I'm semi-serious about making the qt widgets look nicer so maybe I'll fix it up |
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| [23:02:53] | justinh: | anyway, time for bed |
| [23:02:53] | jams: | wanna take over ? =) |
| [23:05:03] | blackest: | any of you guys know anything about dv and firewire ? |
| [23:05:22] | iamlindoro__: | What about it? |
| [23:05:39] | blackest: | I've got a pvr and its got a dv in socket |
| [23:05:53] | blackest: | i also have a firewire port on my laptop |
| [23:06:02] | iamlindoro__: | If it's DV, max resolution will be 720x480 |
| [23:06:09] | blackest: | i was wondering if they can connect |
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| [23:06:21] | iamlindoro__: | Well, depends on what you want to do with that link |
| [23:06:43] | iamlindoro__: | If you want to convert something to DV (max 720x480) in your computer and output it to the PVR, then maybe yes |
| [23:07:05] | iamlindoro__: | if it's a *real* "DV IN" port, then they've probably got the software locked down not to export |
| [23:07:30] | blackest: | probably no menu item for it |
| [23:07:46] | blackest: | but it is basically firewire then ? |
| [23:07:50] | iamlindoro__: | No |
| [23:07:56] | iamlindoro__: | DV != Firewire |
| [23:08:04] | iamlindoro__: | DV is carried over firewire, but different |
| [23:08:30] | blackest: | yes the pvr has what looks like a mini usb connector on it |
| [23:08:42] | iamlindoro__: | ok... and? |
| [23:08:54] | blackest: | i guess its only good for cam corders then ? |
| [23:09:05] | iamlindoro__: | Very likely, what is the PVR? |
| [23:09:20] | blackest: | its something obscure onn |
| [23:09:38] | blackest: | its an asdas brand |
| [23:09:57] | blackest: | 80gb hd analogue tuner |
| [23:10:20] | blackest: | scart in out and svideo and composite in |
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| [23:10:39] | blackest: | records to dvd +r disks |
| [23:11:10] | iamlindoro__: | ok...it's unlikely myth will interface with that via firewire (if it's myth-type firewire at all, which it appears not to be) |
| [23:11:20] | iamlindoro__: | sounds like that port only understand DV format, which is different |
| [23:11:24] | iamlindoro__: | er understand |
| [23:11:24] | iamlindoro__: | s |
| [23:12:09] | blackest: | ok it would have been nice if it opened the way to transfering video to and from the pvr |
| [23:12:43] | XLV: | blackest, that port is used to connect a minidv camera eg on it, and transfer video to dvd or to hdd of pvr |
| [23:13:09] | blackest: | only one way too yes ? |
| [23:13:56] | XLV: | usually yes, only in |
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| [23:19:10] | blackest: | i just took a look at the firewire port on my laptop its identical to the dv port on my pvr |
| [23:19:24] | iamlindoro__: | That's because they both use mini firewire cables |
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| [23:19:35] | iamlindoro__: | doesn't mean anything about their ability to communicate |
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| [23:21:16] | blackest: | I guess i need to see if hp have anything on their site about that port |
| [23:21:28] | iamlindoro__: | Is that your laptop manu? |
| [23:21:33] | iamlindoro__: | Dude... *listen* |
| [23:21:35] | blackest: | yep |
| [23:21:39] | iamlindoro__: | On your laptop it *is* a firewire port |
| [23:21:53] | iamlindoro__: | on your PVR, it's a firewire connector, but your PVR only understands DV video |
| [23:21:56] | iamlindoro__: | they are different |
| [23:22:20] | iamlindoro__: | Dv video is *not* how myth gets its video via firewire |
| [23:23:14] | blackest: | some sat boxes have firewire don't they ? |
| [23:23:29] | iamlindoro__: | No. Some *cable* boxes have firewire |
| [23:24:25] | fryfrog: | sat boxes can have firewire too |
| [23:24:38] | iamlindoro__: | Well, I've never seen one that wasn't a paid-for-mod |
| [23:24:38] | fryfrog: | in fact, i think it is even possible to add firewire to some sat boxes that don't already have it. |
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| [23:24:59] | fryfrog: | i think i've heard of one or two, but they are rare afair |
| [23:25:19] | iamlindoro__: | Show me |
| [23:25:33] | iamlindoro__: | I know about 169time, but show me a pre-fab |
| [23:25:48] | fryfrog: | sorry, i don't keep up with sat |
| [23:25:58] | fryfrog: | i couldn't show you w/o searching google and stuff |
| [23:26:12] | blackest: | I definately know about sat boxes with usb |
| [23:26:20] | iamlindoro__: | sure, USB, but not for video |
| [23:26:22] | blackest: | but thats another standard |
| [23:26:32] | iamlindoro__: | It's disabled "for future use" |
| [23:27:06] | blackest: | actually its used for connecting a hard drive on the box i was looking at |
| [23:27:25] | fryfrog: | think sometimes you can also hook something up with pics on it and it'll do some slideshow crap |
| [23:27:34] | iamlindoro__: | ok, but *not* for data transfer to other devices... |
| [23:27:38] | fryfrog: | camera, flash drive, portable hd, what ever |
| [23:27:40] | fryfrog: | true |
| [23:28:00] | fryfrog: | hell, i think *some* of those moto STBs for cable might have a modem built in |
| [23:28:08] | fryfrog: | ie, you could use it to replace your cable modem |
| [23:28:10] | blackest: | its a cheap way of having a satellite recorder |
| [23:28:16] | iamlindoro__: | in short, you will *not* be getting video out of A) A port labeled "DV Video", b) Firewire from a Satellite box, or c) USB from a satellite box |
| [23:28:24] | iamlindoro__: | not to myth, anyway |
| [23:28:26] | fryfrog: | didn't TiVo recently enable their eSATA ports? |
| [23:28:42] | iamlindoro__: | If they did, it was for external drive use only |
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| [23:29:06] | blackest: | true however i could get a sat box to record to a usb hd and then later plug the hd in to a pc |
| [23:29:31] | iamlindoro__: | blackest, This topic is rehashed *daily* here... |
| [23:29:46] | iamlindoro__: | If recording a pure digital stream from satellite was that easy, wouldn't we all be doing it? |
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| [23:29:56] | iamlindoro__: | But go ahead, buy away, and let me know when you've got it all working |
| [23:30:11] | blackest: | well thats why there is the technomate 9000 and the dreambox |
| [23:30:32] | iamlindoro__: | And *that* is off-limits talk here |
| [23:31:09] | blackest: | ok |
| [23:33:54] | fiXXXerMet: | I just scanned my input and the channels only went up to 80-so... What about my 100+ channels? |
| [23:34:56] | iamlindoro__: | If you are using an anlog card, odds are those are the digital-only channels and you won't be getting those with your card without using the box |
| [23:35:28] | fiXXXerMet: | I have cable line -> cable box -> (s video) -> capture card |
| [23:35:45] | iamlindoro__: | Then why are you scanning at all? |
| [23:35:49] | iamlindoro__: | You don't scan s-video |
| [23:35:54] | fiXXXerMet: | oh. |
| [23:36:51] | iamlindoro__: | You set up your listings source and download the channels from the source, and use an IR blaster to change your channels... S-video doesn't have channels |
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| [23:40:46] | fiXXXerMet: | Led-Hed: hah |
| [23:40:59] | Led-Hed: | fiXXXerMet, so what model CBL box? |
| [23:41:12] | fiXXXerMet: | Motorola DCT6416 III |
| [23:41:24] | fiXXXerMet: | It says "dual tuner HDTV" on the front |
| [23:41:33] | fiXXXerMet: | Even has a sata port on the back |
| [23:41:33] | Led-Hed: | thats cool |
| [23:41:56] | fiXXXerMet: | Led-Hed: http://pastebin.com/m47aa50a3 |
| [23:42:48] | Led-Hed: | fiXXXerMet, what is that from? |
| [23:42:57] | fiXXXerMet: | My command line? |
| [23:43:01] | Led-Hed: | ahh |
| [23:43:05] | fiXXXerMet: | I mean, on the backend |
| [23:43:10] | Led-Hed: | ya |
| [23:43:16] | Led-Hed: | I dont do that very often |
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| [23:43:40] | fiXXXerMet: | Well I'll install the front end on this box and see what happens. |
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| [23:44:04] | Led-Hed: | fiXXXerMet, the backend has X? |
| [23:44:07] | fiXXXerMet: | no |
| [23:44:18] | fiXXXerMet: | 'this box' as in my desktop |
| [23:44:19] | Led-Hed: | then it will do you no good to install the frontend |
| [23:44:26] | Led-Hed: | oh |
| [23:44:29] | Led-Hed: | my bad |
| [23:45:01] | Led-Hed: | looks like the motorold DCT-6200 has 1394 support and supports channel changing via firewire |
| [23:45:30] | Led-Hed: | fiXXXerMet, http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Firewire_Priming |
| [23:46:27] | fiXXXerMet: | great |
| [23:46:41] | Led-Hed: | fiXXXerMet, Wiki says your box will work but may have QUality issues |
| [23:46:51] | Led-Hed: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Firewire_Cablebox_Compatability |
| [23:47:17] | fiXXXerMet: | I don't use HD atm so I might be OK |
| [23:47:46] | Led-Hed: | not sure how it works honestly, Maybe its all HD and down sampled |
| [23:47:55] | Led-Hed: | or only some content is HD |
| [23:48:10] | Led-Hed: | either way its MPEG and Myth can scale it to SDTV resolution |
| [23:49:02] | Led-Hed: | if you get it working I may go HD |
| [23:49:06] | fiXXXerMet: | Stupid mythtv-frontend package requires mythtv-backend and mysql-server and a load of other stuff. I'll try from source |
| [23:49:11] | fiXXXerMet: | oh? |
| [23:49:18] | Led-Hed: | fiXXXerMet, install them individually |
| [23:49:29] | Led-Hed: | you are installing the meta package |
| [23:49:36] | fiXXXerMet: | ah |
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| [23:50:21] | fiXXXerMet: | That's better. |
| [23:50:44] | Led-Hed: | remember to install the pluging and themes |
| [23:52:19] | Led-Hed: | fiXXXerMet, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_Frontend_Desktop |
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| [23:58:04] | fiXXXerMet: | Hah! Video is working. |
| [23:58:11] | fiXXXerMet: | Forgot to hook up sound, though. |
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| [23:58:12] | Led-Hed: | via firewire |
| [23:58:21] | fiXXXerMet: | No, s-video |
| [23:58:35] | Led-Hed: | ahh thats right |
| [23:58:36] | fiXXXerMet: | I need to buy a firewire cable |
| [23:59:04] | fiXXXerMet: | It doesn't look so great, hmm. |
| [23:59:12] | Led-Hed: | how are you gonna change channels? |
| [23:59:20] | fiXXXerMet: | Maybe because I'm using a 1280x1024 resolution. |
| [23:59:24] | fiXXXerMet: | Remote, for the time being. |
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