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rhp:

Hi all

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fryfrog:

hi you!

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bsdfox_:

hmm, after moving from .20.2 to .21 mythweb now shows this under recorded programs: call to undefined method program::thumb_url()

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bsdfox_:

google only has one hit and it's the same problem :(

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fryfrog:

did you re-fix all your .htaccess stuff?

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fryfrog:

maybe check your web server's error_log

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fryfrog:

i tend to have those sorts of problems when my .htaccess file gets overwritten and stuff

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iamlindoro_:

bsdfox_: When you upgraded, did you do the manual copy of the new version of mythweb, or just a make install in mythplugins?

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iamlindoro_:

(mythweb needs to be cp'ed)

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fryfrog:

yeah, that too, good catch

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iamlindoro_:

And you might see that kind of message if you were running old mythweb against new backend

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iamlindoro_:

In other news, I just lost *two years* of DVD ripping and transcoded TV shows when my mythvideo array fried today. I am trying not to let my blood pressure rise.

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fryfrog:

yikes, howd the array choke and die?

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GreyFoxx:

Ack!!

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GreyFoxx:

oh my

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fryfrog:

i've had mine need to resync a number of times, but never actual data loss :(

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iamlindoro_:

Power fluctuation and two drives fry... poof.

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GreyFoxx:

:( wow, harsh

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fryfrog:

oh, wow, 2 drives died?

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iamlindoro_:

even though the whole shabang is theoretically behind a surge protector

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iamlindoro_:

yup

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fryfrog:

time to invest in a UPS and/or raid6 :(

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iamlindoro_:

*sigh* Reminding myself that it's just TV, and that it's all still on DVD *somewhere*

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fryfrog:

was it ripped in xvid or x264?

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iamlindoro_:

and trying to look at it as a positive... am upgrading my RAID, and will re-rip as ISO rather than transcoding this time... "It'll be better in the end."

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GreyFoxx:

I've got 90% of my dvd;s ripped to xvid. Considering ripping to ISO's or x264

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fryfrog:

I think I'll re-do it all (don't have much) to x264. ISO is a little extreme (space wise) :)

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iamlindoro_:

yeah, I'm going to go ISO as the internal player has matured substantially since I bagan.. they were about half and half x264/xvid

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iamlindoro_:

er began

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fryfrog:

blech, ISO of DVD isn't worth the 4–8G of space

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fryfrog:

it isn't even HD! :(

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iamlindoro_:

The *real* pain stuff to lose was the transcoded recordings that I will never find in HD again (well, not legally)

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GreyFoxx:

Diskspace is cheap

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GreyFoxx:

time isn't

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iamlindoro_:

GreyFoxx: Exactly

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GreyFoxx:

I'd rather rip an ISO than spend the CPU time reencoding

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iamlindoro_:

I'll just make myself drop 5–10 dics in the box every night after work, and in a few months I'll be back where I was

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fryfrog:

I'd rather just do a few every day, it isn't like I'm going to sit there and continiously rip movies.

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iamlindoro_:

Plus, I had gotten a little disorganied and it's a good opportunity to replace some things with Blu-ray/HD rips

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iamlindoro_:

er disorganized

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iamlindoro_:

My *own* rips, for reference :)

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fryfrog:

of course!

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GreyFoxx:

We're now looking into the blu-ray/hddvd options since we are getting a new flatscreen

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fryfrog:

If I ever get a 360, I'd probably spring for the $200 HD-DVD drive

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fryfrog:

then I can use it with winblows via usb if i like!

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iamlindoro_:

No, for serious! I figure I ought to be taken seriously since I can provide, on a moment's notice, mplayer patched to play the audio formats... and someone who was downloading them wouldn't need it :)

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iamlindoro_:

fryfrog: That's what I use for HD-DVD... and rip via Slysoft AnyDVD

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GreyFoxx:

friend: Is that how much it is? We've got a 360 and was considering that route too

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fryfrog:

ah, neat

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iamlindoro_:

Actually, price went down

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GreyFoxx:

doubt I can feed that via upnp though hehe

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iamlindoro_:

Here it's $129 now I believe

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bsdfox_:

iamlindoro_: I just did a make install

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fryfrog:

GreyFoxx: yeah, I am pretty sure it is only like $200. I suspect it maybe isn't as good as a full blown hd-dvd/blu-ray stand alone player... but who cares!

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GreyFoxx:

but with the current state of linux playback I expect to be swapping disks on that stuff for a while

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iamlindoro_:

bsdfox_: There's your problem then

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fryfrog:

iamlindoro_: for serious?

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bsdfox_:

I will try manually copying it

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bsdfox_:

thanks

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fryfrog:

imma look that up now, $130 is teh cheap

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iamlindoro_:

yeah rm -rf /var/www/mythweb, cp -rf /path/to/svn/mythweb /var/www/mythweb in my case

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bsdfox_:

cool

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fryfrog:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem . . . ab%3DSelling

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fryfrog:

bah, lame

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fryfrog:

stupid copy/paste in synergy, don't visit that link

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fryfrog:

at least, don't bother

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fryfrog:

newegg search has hd-dvd for $170

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fryfrog:

not bad

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GreyFoxx:

is either standard currently "winning" over the other? More movies available and or better resolution and such ?

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iamlindoro_:

Ah, ok, I was off on the price... but it was dropped

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fryfrog:

GreyFoxx: not in my opinion.

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iamlindoro_:

GreyFoxx: It's still kinda a deadlock and both 1080p and same audio formats

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fryfrog:

They seem to sort of trade back and forth in announcements.

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fryfrog:

One month, HD-DVD is like "OMG, we are winning!!!"

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fryfrog:

and the next month, blu-ray is like "WE SCHOOL HD_DVD like red headed step child"

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iamlindoro_:

Minimally, HD-DVD players are cheaper... but I believe there are still more blu-ray players in circulation

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fryfrog:

then DVD walks in and steps on the two ants on the ground

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fryfrog:

I think what I'll end up doing is getting the cheap HD-DVD player, maybe some free disks... then just getting movies via Netflix. That way I don't have to buy a bunch of HD-DVDs that are going to lose to blu-ray (or visa versa)

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iamlindoro_:

Ugh. The only thing that is daunting me about this is allll the TV on DVD I have... it sucks if I just rip the whole disk, and ripping per-eipsode will give me an aneurysm

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fryfrog:

what you need is a cron job or something

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fryfrog:

just set it so you rip something to a dir and then a cron job does the conversion

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iamlindoro_:

If it was even remotely scriptable I would... but it's really not... ripping of TV from DVD requires a lot of manual intervention

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fryfrog:

true :(

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bsdfox_:

iamlindoro_: that got it working, thanks

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GreyFoxx:

yeah, I have tons of box sets

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iamlindoro_:

because some of the discs have two of the same episode, sometimes it chokes in deciding what the "main title" is, etc.

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GreyFoxx:

which is why this time I am thinking of just ISO's :)

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iamlindoro_:

bsdfox_: Great!

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fryfrog:

HD-DVD addon is $180 at walmart

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fryfrog:

why would a disk have two of the same episode?

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iamlindoro_:

GreyFoxx: I *guess* I could live with titles like "The Office Eps 1–6" or something... but I had is *so* perfect. Ugh

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iamlindoro_:

fryfrog: Extended cuts, etc

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bsdfox_:

wow, .21 mythweb looks a lot better :)

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fryfrog:

Go buy a UPS!

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fryfrog:

iamlindoro_: ah, i see

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iamlindoro_:

fryfrog: UPS ain't bringing back my episodes :)

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iamlindoro_:

But still

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fryfrog:

yeah, but now if you do, you won't lose all your rips in a year :p

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iamlindoro_:

We actually are gonna dump a bunch of them at the office, maybe I'll take an old one home

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fryfrog:

I have a Belkin UPS that is plugged to my server via USB, actually shows up in Ubuntu's desktop.

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fryfrog:

I once pulled the power to see what it would do, support aparantly wasn't the best because it simply initiated an immediate shutdown

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fryfrog:

instead of waiting till like 20% batt life or something

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fryfrog:

but a clean shutdown is better than not!

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iamlindoro_:

indeed

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bsdfox_:

hmm anyone got mythmusic compiling on 0.21?

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jams:

GreyFoxx- still around?

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dserban:

is .21 ready?

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jams:

no

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GreyFoxx:

dserban_: It's not too far away

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dserban:

k just seemed odd everyone's pickin' at it ;)

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GreyFoxx:

jams: barely

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GreyFoxx:

my daughter is asleep in my lap :)

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jams:

how sweet

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dserban:

I'm having trouble "automating" everything myth brings together... though myth has nothing to do with that.

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jams:

GreyFoxx- i'm attempting to read in a file that has the following contents http://paste.bigbudden.com/view.php?id=11185

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jams:

when displayed on the screen with myth I get exactly that, but of course I only want to see the last set up numbers. This works when printing it out to the console. Any idea on where to look?

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jams:

if that made sense.

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dserban:

bluray and hddvd can't even be read in linux correct?

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jams:

What i want displayed on screen is "Writing inode tables: 12/1150" instead of that long string

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iamlindoro_:

dserban: not off the disk. The video streams can be played after either being transcoded on a windows system or with extremely patched mplayer

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GreyFoxx:

jams: maybe split the string on a delimiter of some sort into a QStringList and use .last() to only get the last bit out of the string?

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iamlindoro_:

But before that you have to circumvent the copy protection./.. and I'm not discussing that part

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dserban:

oh dirty

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dserban:

fair enough.. i heard that some guy put out the "crack" for hd dvd ... and bluray's on the way

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bsdfox_:

iamlindoro_: what build of mythmusic do you use right now?

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dserban:

I'll wait for that day before I truly look at upgrading to HD

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iamlindoro_:

dserban: Then you're way out of the loop. Do some reading... but you're off.

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iamlindoro_:

bsdfox_: I'm running 15199 right now

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dserban:

iamlindoro_, k I will when everything's finally finished heh ;) just don't have the time to invest these days... just got a 47" lcd and have no hd player/content to play on it.. hence it's still int he box ;)

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bsdfox_:

k looks like I'd better upgrade :)

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iamlindoro_:

dserban: six months to a year is my best guess if you just ant it to "work." And even then it will likely take a bit of hacking.

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jams:

GreyFoxx- i was hoping it was some sort of encoding issue

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jams:

there are other things in the text file where splitting isn't really an option.

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LoneShadow:

Anyone using Motorola DCT 3416 with mythtv ?

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iamlindoro_:

Well it's listed in the 6200 channel changer program... so I would guess *someone* is

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BULLE:

wee, someone is \o/

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iamlindoro_:

hehe

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iamlindoro_:

Plus it's a fair bet LoneShadow is

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LoneShadow:

have not tried it yet

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LoneShadow:

still building up my new mythtv setup :D

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jams:

oh well

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** jams comments out that section of the code. **

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justinh:

typical. woke up with the munchies :)

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squish102:

xris, ticket created for crop_left crop_right

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justinh:

ah wicked my code bashing is kind of working now :)

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justinh:

anybody here got a Sony Bravia 37" LCD ?

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justinh:

inlaws had me set theirs up over christmas & I have to say I wasn't appalled by it. just wondering what others think ;)

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** cafuego thinks Sony are evil. **

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cafuego:

but apart from that...

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BULLE:

justinh: i havent seen the 37" ones, but i have seen a few 40 and, uhm, 42 i think, in the mid to highend segment

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justinh:

and Panasonic, Toshiba, Samsung et al aren't ?

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BULLE:

justinh: and they gave realy good picture, for an lcd tv, if you ask me

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BULLE:

justinh: well, sony is the ones spreading trojans etc

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BULLE:

havent heard that panasonic or toshiba have done that

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justinh:

yeh I was taken aback. you know how hard I am to impress ;)

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cafuego:

justinh: They are less so involved in rootkit distribution and the pushing of DRM, as far as I'm aware

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BULLE:

justinh: philips and sony make the best lcd tvs imho, i could actualy live with one of their better models in my house =)

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BULLE:

and be satisfied with it

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cafuego:

justinh: Mind you, I've been a fan of Sony tvs since the the trinitron days

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justinh:

I don't have a media centre which uses DRM, and AFAIK it's pretty hard to rootkit linux by merely inserting a CD

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justinh:

:P

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BULLE:

justinh: oto, i was watching some hd content on a 60" pioneer plasma today, now, that is a tv with a good picture

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cafuego:

justinh: it's just that their company policy seems to have shifted focus a bit and I can't see myself giving them any money for anything in the foreseeable future.

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BULLE:

cafuego: same here, except perhaps for a tv

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** cafuego has a stupidly expensive bang&olufsen (was a gift) and doesn't see himself forking out for a B&O plasma anytime soon ;-) **

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justinh:

hardly likely to splurge on a PS3

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cafuego:

possibly for $10k I'd rather renovate the kitchen

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justinh:

or any of their stupid media players. oops. it's not the players which are bad. it's the software you need to put anything on em. I have a NetMD :-\

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BULLE:

i only find one reason to buy a ps3, and that is for blueray playback, as it seems to be the only bluray player that might actualy be upgraded in the future to 1.1 and 1.2 specs

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cafuego:

justinh: And the insistence of being the only company in the world using memory stick

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BULLE:

i dont think i own anything sony, to be honest

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** cafuego has a mid-90s walkman and a little FM radio **

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cafuego:

Oh, and a playstation 1

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justinh:

my sister has a B&O TV. very good for a 32" CRT, what with its swivel stand & uber-heavy remote

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justinh:

in an ideal world (say if I won the lotto) I'd go for a complete B&O house setup

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justinh:

not the highest of fi I know but with integration comes a price

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cafuego:

justinh: Yeah, that's the one I have too, with matching VCR and DVD

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cafuego:

and now flanked by the ugliest beige myth box known to man ;-)

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BULLE:

justinh: "highest of fi" ?

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cafuego:

Say Linn

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BULLE:

ah

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BULLE:

still b&o makes a few speakers/amps that are upp there with Linn, in sound quality

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cafuego:

what with my noisy damn neighbours, who'd know ;-)

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BULLE:

im mainly thinking of those speakers that look like plastich christmastrees with built in amps

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BULLE:

if i won a couple of times on lotto, i would definitively consider those b&o speakers

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BULLE:

beolab 5

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squish102:

can any1 give me an idea y when in mythweb i click backend status, i get the following error

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squish102:

Error at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/status/handler.php, line 29:

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squish102:

file_get_contents(http://192.168.2.131:6544) [function.file-get-contents]: failed to open stream: HTTP request failed!

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squish102:

after a reboot it works

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squish102:

going to http://192.168.2.131:6544 also returns nithing

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jimbalaya_:

I'm installing MythTV on a PC with Debian installed ... I'm following the howto, which lists the step 'apt-get build-dep mythtv' just before 'apt-get install mythtv' ... is this really a necessary step if I'm not building mythtv via source?

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justinh:

not really

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cafuego:

jimbalaya: No, just sudo apt-get install mythtv

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jimbalaya_:

thanks for clearing that up for me

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J-e-f-f-A:

squish102: It's probably a bug... I'm running svn 15223 and have the same issue. Connetions on 6544 are serviced by the backend itself, not mythweb btw.

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squish102:

J-e-f-f-A, ok thanks.. it only started once i ubuntu showed a new version and i upgraded

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bsdfox__:

squish102: try restarted apache on the server

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bsdfox__:

I get that when load gets really high

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bsdfox__:

my backend is a pos p2–450 right now though

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Tanthrix:

LoneShadow: What's up?

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i3ooi3oo:

what version would use protocal version 31

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LoneShadow:

Tanthrix: are you still recording off your Comcast STB ?

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Tanthrix:

LoneShadow: Not as of the past month or two. Since Comcast started encrypting channels, I switched to a QAM/ATSC tuner card to get OTA stuff. Just use the firewire for channel changing now.

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Tanthrix:

LoneShadow: I need to pop into work for a few things – any other questions? Otherwise I'm off

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monkeypet:

Can someone help me test my torrent? I am trying to seed a xbox image.

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cafuego:

xbox image?

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monkeypet:

cafuego: xbox xebian image with mythtv 0.20.2 already installed.

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cafuego:

Ah... gimme atorrent...

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cafuego:

.. provided it's not too huge – i'm close to quota.

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monkeypet:

http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/3950450/xebi . . . .TPB.torrent

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monkeypet:

cafuego: just make sure it starts..

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monkeypet:

cafuego: I don't know if i am seeding correctly or if it impossible from comcast.

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cafuego:

No data as yet...

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monkeypet:

cafuego: did it see the peer?

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cafuego:

Nope, no peers

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monkeypet:

cafuego: it takes awhile to connect to the tracker.

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monkeypet:

cafuego: I see you as a peer now.

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cafuego:

and I have a peer now too

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cafuego:

Not moved any data as yet

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monkeypet:

cafuego: do you see an ip 24.6...175 as a peer?

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cafuego:

yup

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monkeypet:

cafuego: I think it is foobar'd...

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monkeypet:

cafuego: thx for the help.

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** monkeypet curses comcast. **

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cafuego:

monkeypet: Well, i can't connect to the advertised port on your machine

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cafuego:

Maybe check your firewall.

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monkeypet:

cafuego: Let me doublecheck, i forwarded the ports.

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cafuego:

TCP right

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cafuego:

port 51125

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monkeypet:

cafuego: i thought bittorrent uses ports 6881 – 6999

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cafuego:

monkeypet: Your clients is advertising port 51125

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cafuego:

That said

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cafuego:

i *CAN* connect to 6881

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monkeypet:

cafuego: oh, thanks for the tip, let me fix it.

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cafuego:

monkeypet: Mind you, if comcast filter torrent, just tell the client to use a different port and forward that instead :-)

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monkeypet:

cafuego: can you try once more.

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i3ooi3oo:

what is the standard procotol version being used ?

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iamlindoro_:

.20.2 is 31

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iamlindoro_:

SVN is 36

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iamlindoro_:

Ah! I haven't used the DVD Import in ages... It's *much* more coherent now

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clever[rev]:

i dont think ive ever used it

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iamlindoro_:

Someone hit it with the simplify stick

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iamlindoro_:

Which is a very good thing

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clever[rev]:

lol:D

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clever[rev]:

i dont even see the need to rip dvd's to the pc

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clever[rev]:

im short on disk space and they store just fine on a shelf

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iamlindoro_:

I am long on disk space, and being able to say, with a confident grin, "Yeah, I've got that" is bound to get me laid some day

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clever[rev]:

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on

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clever[rev]:

theP4:/media/mainlv 296G 290G 6.3G 98% /media/mainlv

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iamlindoro_:

clever[rev]: /dev/md0 2163230144 29314828 2024029532 2% /movies

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clever[rev]:

170G /media/mainlv/mythtv/

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clever[rev]:

rest is videos and music

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Tanthrix:

cafuego: Comcast has been engaging in some fairly complex anti-bittorrent traffic manipulation. Simply changing ports won't do the trick to bypass it.

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grokky:

Hi all. Is there a way to set a global audio offset plus or minus for all media being payed (using the internal player) rather than setting it manually at start of playback?

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Tanthrix:

grokky: Never seen such a setting myself, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Why do you need such a thing anyway?

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iamlindoro_:

Sounds like he has an improperly set up framegrabber

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clever[rev]:

feels like the audio isnt even going thru myth i think

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iamlindoro_:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Synchronizing_Sound

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grokky:

Tanthrix: with the advent of TV's doing large amount of frame processing, upscalers, smart amps etc, its easy to find yourself in a situation where you TV is adding a delay or some other bit of gear, resulting in out of sync audio – consistently.

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clever[rev]:

grokky: my new stereo seems able to seperate 2 channels into 6 on its own somehow

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clever[rev]:

grokky: it may just be processing certain freq ranges into the back speakers but i can see how that would introduce lag in the audio

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clever[rev]:

half the inputs are only 2 channel but in certain modes it can still get a noticable difference between front and back channels

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grokky:

clever[rev]: in my case I'm about to purchase a new Sony Bravia 46XBR LCD and it has various on board video processing which seems to add a delay to the picture on the TV, necessitating a negative offset on the audio.

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clever[rev]:

ahh

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grokky:

at least based on the limited testing I've been able to do on someone elses set.

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grokky:

So I nice global -20ms or something would be great, and give me the confidence to go ahead and buy the TV.

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clever[rev]:

a simple test would be to wire a camera of some kind into the pc

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clever[rev]:

and then program it to show a sudden color change and time itself for the delay

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grokky:

yeah. I could tell it was out just by lip sync, and could adjust it out using the audio sync settings on playback, so I could just work out the delay needed and change the code to add the delay in and compile SVN.

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grokky:

Then again, I'm worried the delay is only needed for certain types of recordings. Arrghhh. It hurts my brain.

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clever[rev]:

yeah i get that sometimes

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grokky:

maybe I'l just have to buy the TV and suck it and see. It would be a shame to have a nice shiny expensive new TV to go with my myth box and then not be able to make them work together though.

[04:52:05]

grokky:

I couldn't go back to no myth.

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grokky:

I'm not the only one: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . ting;#219383

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iamlindoro_:

grokky: Perhaps your amplifier allows to an audio delay? I'm fairly certain mine does

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iamlindoro_:

er allows for

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grokky:

iamlindoro_: unfortunately not. its an older unit which doesn't have that setting. I spose I'm just a bit afraid that after spending $4000 on a TV, I'll then end up buying a new amp, new vid card for myth etc etc, and spend more than I have !

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grokky:

oh well!

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iamlindoro_:

Heh, isn't that always the case

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iamlindoro_:

So my freaking Mythvideo array crashed, taking two years of DVD rips and recordings with it... and as I sit here getting ready to start all over... I am tempted to go HD only, and leave all the SD DVDs on the shelf, so that the myth machines are HD from start to finish

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clever[rev]:

more mirrors!

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clever[rev]:

dont repeat history!

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iamlindoro_:

Heh, no, I've got 'er under control now

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iamlindoro_:

That problem is solved

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iamlindoro_:

But doesn't solve the missing content

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clever[rev]:

last time i had a major data loss it was winblows at fault at first

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clever[rev]:

the xp install cd deleted the partition table on a 160gig drive

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iamlindoro_:

So I'm eyeing all the HD discs I haven't ripped for various reason and thinking, hmmm... maybe *those* should be there to really showcase the system

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i3ooi3oo:

it only deletes when you telll it too

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Tanthrix:

Oh joy, mythtv-setup keeps crashing when doing a channel scan.

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clever[rev]:

i3ooi3oo: then how did i wind up with a 90gig partition it wanted to format when i had 4 valid ones to begin with...:S

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clever[rev]:

then later gparted's resize crashed and nulled out the start of the ntfs

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clever[rev]:

i managed to slap a chunk of it from a backed up MBR(luckly oversized) and patch it enough for chkdsk to fix the rest

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iamlindoro_:

Ah hell, I'll just fill it up with Swedish porn this time

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clever[rev]:

lol

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clever[rev]:

brb

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iamlindoro_:

And then invite mom over

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i3ooi3oo:

well i just fsck my setup

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iamlindoro_:

fsck doesn't do you much good when two members of your RAID 5 burn in a power surge

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iamlindoro_:

ie, me

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i3ooi3oo:

Started with a simple mythdora system then wanted to update the mythweb but it didn't like the old version of the protocol mythbackend was using so i compiled .20.2 and everything is sh!t

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iamlindoro_:

yep, mythweb needs to be matched to the same revision of backend

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iamlindoro_:

so long as you bring both into parity, you should end up okay

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clever[rev]:

nearly all the myth progs need to be identical versions

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iamlindoro_:

yup, basically all across the board

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clever[rev]:

and it updates the db automaticaly(one way) so you cant easily go backwards enless you backed it up

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i3ooi3oo:

well i have no recorded shows other that my collection of music from before

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clever[rev]:

most of my music is either cd rips of stuff i own

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i3ooi3oo:

its a fairly new setup

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clever[rev]:

some downloads i did years ago

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i3ooi3oo:

all is stuff i owned at one time

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clever[rev]:

or the 20gig chunk i found on a 'new' drive we got for my myth master before i discovered myth

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clever[rev]:

went to install linux on the 80gig drive and it only had 60gig of free space

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clever[rev]:

i resized it to be near the end of the drive and went on like normal

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clever[rev]:

and later moved the whole ntfs partition out and used the 20gig partition for the start of my lvm array

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iamlindoro_:

Hmm, I think I'm a convert to the internal player. It's come a long way.

[05:29:30]

clever[rev]:

it cant do my dvd's still i think

[05:30:01]

i3ooi3oo:

i keep getting segment faults reading the .xml files

[05:30:13]

iamlindoro_:

Just finding ways to tweak while MythVideo is back to square one

[05:30:16]

clever[rev]:

i3ooi3oo: -v all

[05:31:35]

i3ooi3oo:

have tried that

[05:31:56]

clever[rev]:

it may just be doing other things between the xml file and the seg fault

[05:32:39]

i3ooi3oo:

nope

[05:33:00]

i3ooi3oo:

is glx required?

[05:33:18]

clever[rev]:

i think thats related to the nvidia drivers

[05:34:15]

i3ooi3oo:

i have had some vieo issue since this mythbox has a geforce 3 ti500 ie a specific set only

[05:34:35]

i3ooi3oo:

setup won't run either

[05:35:00]

iamlindoro_:

i3ooi3oo: Did you remove the packaged versions before you installed SVN?

[05:35:32]

iamlindoro_:

Congrats. Welcome to what happens when you don't do that. ;)

[05:36:07]

i3ooi3oo:

lol thanks

[05:36:18]

iamlindoro_:

I would back up your db, make uninstall SVN, apt-get remove all the packages, then recompile and install SVN from scratch, then reimport the db

[05:36:32]

iamlindoro_:

Then you should have a clean setup

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i3ooi3oo:

the db can die

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i3ooi3oo:

i am not worried about it

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iamlindoro_:

All the better

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i3ooi3oo:

there is no data to speak up

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i3ooi3oo:

*of

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iamlindoro_:

There you go... if you do all that, especially with a clean database, you should be in good shape

[05:38:07]

i3ooi3oo:

sounds fun

[05:38:18]

iamlindoro_:

Not as painful as you might think

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i3ooi3oo:

take a while to make

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i3ooi3oo:

err

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iamlindoro_:

Probably the least of your worries ;)

[05:40:43]

i3ooi3oo:

well not worried just trying to figure out how i want to do this

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i3ooi3oo:

Like i said this box started as mythdora 4

[05:41:21]

iamlindoro_:

Even if you rip myth out of it, mythbuntu still does a good job of setting up the pain in the ass stuff for you like the tuners and lirc

[05:41:28]

i3ooi3oo:

so removeing the packages could be

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iamlindoro_:

so I'd just pull the myth packages and make uninstall, then reinstall... heck, you don't even really have to make again, just make install... just make sure you remove mythtv with --purge

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iamlindoro_:

via apt-get

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i3ooi3oo:

--purge ?

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i3ooi3oo:

lol no apt-get too

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iamlindoro_:

ie, first, stop the backend

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iamlindoro_:

then get into the db and drop mythconverg

[05:42:54]

iamlindoro_:

then go to your svn myth directories (both plugins and plain myth) and make uninstall

[05:43:01]

iamlindoro_:

then apt-get remove --purge mythtv

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iamlindoro_:

then create a fresh database as described in the wiki

[05:43:25]

iamlindoro_:

then go back into your myth SVN and make install again

[05:43:38]

iamlindoro_:

finally, mythtv-setup and set things up, start the database, and you should be golden

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i3ooi3oo:

thanks

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i3ooi3oo:

working on it

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iamlindoro_:

no problem

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iamlindoro_:

If you're really fast (and don't try to be, but if you had done a lot of this) you could get the whole thing accomplished in just a few minutes

[05:45:00]

iamlindoro_:

so take your time, and it will all work out

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i3ooi3oo:

couldn't read menu file setup.xml

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i3ooi3oo:

segment fault

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__Krush:

Hi All, have a question as to how would wiring to a MythTV box with a DVB-T supplied box?

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iamlindoro_:

Ugh, god save me from #StupidUbuntuSupportChannel

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clever[rev]:

lol

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iamlindoro_:

Definitely not the place to ask a complicated question about RAID and udev

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clever[rev]:

lol

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clever[rev]:

thats more of a generic linux question

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clever[rev]:

##linux !

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iamlindoro_:

you're very right... my own fault

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iamlindoro_:

If I want a guess I'll ask my mother

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iamlindoro_:

not #UbuntuBlindHelpingBlind

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clever[rev]:

lol

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clever[rev]:

arg this is painfull

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clever[rev]:

the wifi keeps droping out from a bug in my wifi

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clever[rev]:

-cache on mplayer masks the root problem

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clever[rev]:

but mythtv wontlet me increase the cache as much

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iamlindoro_:

I remember struggling with it.. but don't think I ever had a satisfying solution

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clever[rev]:

ARG

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clever[rev]:

the read timeout made it think the file was over

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clever[rev]:

instantly back to the recording list

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clever[rev]:

now ive got 20mins of seeking to get back to where i was

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EnderTheThird:

Anyone having trouble with the auto-setup with lirc from Mythbuntu Control Centre? My remote isn't working all of a sudden.

[07:15:16]

EnderTheThird:

the lirc daemon is killed every time I try irw.

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iamlindoro_:

start lirc as a service, the ps aux |grep lirc so you can see what command line it uses... then stop the service, and use that same command line at the terminal

[07:16:37]

iamlindoro_:

Then try irw in another terminal, that way you can watch what lircd does when it croaks

[07:17:16]

EnderTheThird:

I'll give it a shot I suppose.

[07:17:34]

iamlindoro_:

Well hey, don't do me any favors or anything

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EnderTheThird:

Ha

[07:17:53]

EnderTheThird:

Of course not, I'd hate to spoil you ya know.

[07:18:10]

iamlindoro_:

likewise... you may just be fixing this on your own in a sec

[07:18:39]

i3ooi3oo:

iamlindoro_: can you take a look http://pastebin.ca/834484

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iamlindoro_:

i3ooi3oo: sure, looking now

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i3ooi3oo:

thats the output when try to run mythtv-setup -v all

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EnderTheThird:

iamlindoro_: didn't mean any offense. my bad if anything i said was taken as such

[07:20:24]

iamlindoro_:

i3ooi3oo: nothing after that at *all*?

[07:20:28]

iamlindoro_:

EnderTheThird: Only playing with you

[07:20:40]

EnderTheThird:

Rock on

[07:20:59]

EnderTheThird:

Figure I should wait to offend you until *after* I get this bastard goin' again anyway, ha.

[07:21:25]

i3ooi3oo:

2007-12–28 02:14:36.161 MSqlQuery: SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value = 'AllowQuitShutdown' AND hostname = 'mythtv' ;

[07:21:25]

i3ooi3oo:

2007-12–28 02:14:37.452 MythThemedMenuPrivate: Couldn't read menu file setup.xml

[07:21:29]

i3ooi3oo:

thats it

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iamlindoro_:

i3ooi3oo: this is jumping ahead, but I would have compiled with --prefix=/usr

[07:21:43]

i3ooi3oo:

maybe a few more mysql queries

[07:21:53]

i3ooi3oo:

i did

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iamlindoro_:

Heh, not according to this you didn't

[07:22:35]

i3ooi3oo:

for both mythtv and mythplugins

[07:22:37]

iamlindoro_:

Using runtime prefix = /usr/local

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i3ooi3oo:

I know

[07:22:44]

i3ooi3oo:

I saw that

[07:23:11]

iamlindoro_:

I have a pretty strong feeling that you're dealing with a conflict between old and new version files

[07:23:19]

iamlindoro_:

do this, and pastebin into one pastebin

[07:23:22]

i3ooi3oo:

ok i will try this one more time this time i will make uninstall then delete the src then untar and start new

[07:23:31]

iamlindoro_:

ls -al /usr/local/share/mythtv/*

[07:23:38]

iamlindoro_:

ls -al /usr/share/mythtv/*

[07:23:46]

iamlindoro_:

just hang on

[07:24:14]

iamlindoro_:

try this, also

[07:24:35]

iamlindoro_:

instead of mythtv-setup, explicitly as: /usr/bin/mythtv-setup

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i3ooi3oo:

http://pastebin.ca/834496

[07:25:31]

i3ooi3oo:

looking better

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iamlindoro_:

that runs, yes?

[07:27:43]

i3ooi3oo:

can't find the back end the gone

[07:28:04]

iamlindoro_:

pastebin

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iamlindoro_:

okay, it's pretty certain you are dealing with conflicts... when you get a chance, try

[07:29:04]

iamlindoro_:

sudo apt-get remove --purge mythtv-frontend mythtv-backend

[07:29:21]

i3ooi3oo:

http://pastebin.ca/834499

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iamlindoro_:

i3ooi3oo: you need to pastebin the *whole* thing

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iamlindoro_:

that little bit doesn't help me

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i3ooi3oo:

yeah i found some more packages

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i3ooi3oo:

removing

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iamlindoro_:

ok... may or may not require a make install of SVN again... possibly not though

[07:35:03]

EnderTheThird:

iamlindoro_: it seems to be killing lircd whenever it looks for /dev/lirc and can't find it. only /dev/lircd is there

[07:35:28]

iamlindoro_:

EnderTheThird: can you pastebin output when you run lircd from terminal and it fails?

[07:35:44]

iamlindoro_:

lirc# gets created when lircd starts properly

[07:36:03]

EnderTheThird:

lircd isn't outputting anything when i start it

[07:36:26]

iamlindoro_:

show me the command line you are using... also, if --daemon is there, run without it

[07:36:51]

iamlindoro_:

ps axu |grep lirc and kill any running instances before your try, though

[07:36:54]

iamlindoro_:

er aux

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EnderTheThird:

i've done "sudo lircd" "sudo /usr/sbin/lircd" and "sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart *or start"

[07:37:30]

iamlindoro_:

you didn't listen to what I asked you to do

[07:37:41]

iamlindoro_:

first, kill all running instances of lircd

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LoneShadow:

how do I test if the firewire connection from the STB is working ?

[07:37:48]

EnderTheThird:

done

[07:37:57]

iamlindoro_:

by running ps aux |grep lircd

[07:38:16]

iamlindoro_:

if there are *any* running lircd's, use kill # of process to do it

[07:38:35]

iamlindoro_:

now run sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start

[07:38:42]

iamlindoro_:

now run ps aux |grep lircd again

[07:38:49]

iamlindoro_:

and see exactly what command line lircd runs with

[07:39:02]

iamlindoro_:

something like lircd --device=blah blah blah

[07:39:19]

iamlindoro_:

and paste that command line here

[07:40:11]

EnderTheThird:

root 19662 0.0 0.0 15800 520 ? Ss 02:38 0:00 /usr/sbin/lircd

[07:40:18]

EnderTheThird:

there's a line for grep lircd then too

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iamlindoro_:

so it runs with *no* options?

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EnderTheThird:

nope

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iamlindoro_:

sigh

[07:40:48]

iamlindoro_:

ok, kill lircd

[07:40:54]

iamlindoro_:

and try this

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i3ooi3oo:

still running with /usr/local

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i3ooi3oo:

errrrrrrrrrrrr

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i3ooi3oo:

rm -rf myth*

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iamlindoro_:

EnderTheThird: /usr/sbin/lircd --device=/dev/lirc0

[07:41:42]

iamlindoro_:

and tell me if it outputs anything at all... don't ctrl-c it or anything

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EnderTheThird:

nothing

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EnderTheThird:

and it's running

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iamlindoro_:

okay, open another terminal

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iamlindoro_:

ls -al /dev/lirc*

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EnderTheThird:

/dev/lircd is the only one

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iamlindoro_:

How long did your remote work for?

[07:43:16]

iamlindoro_:

and ahve you made *any* changes lately?

[07:43:20]

iamlindoro_:

to *anything*?

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EnderTheThird:

I just did a fresh install after I couldn't get it to work, and last time it gave me a working remote no problem via Mythbuntu Control Centre

[07:44:01]

iamlindoro_:

Ahh.... so with *this* install, you've never had it working

[07:44:16]

EnderTheThird:

No

[07:44:33]

EnderTheThird:

But I haven't done anything special since install.

[07:44:54]

iamlindoro_:

Well, I'd suggest trying the mythbuntu channel... they may know more about their particular software... but it sounds like you may simply not have the correct modules installed/loaded

[07:45:04]

iamlindoro_:

what's the receiver?

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EnderTheThird:

mceusb2 (the philips one)

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iamlindoro_:

try this real quick

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iamlindoro_:

modprobe lirc_mceusb2

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iamlindoro_:

modpobe lirc_dev

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EnderTheThird:

just tried :)

[07:46:12]

iamlindoro_:

then dmesg |grep lirc and pastebin that

[07:47:12]

EnderTheThird:

http://pastebin.ca/834519

[07:47:47]

iamlindoro_:

yep, looks okay

[07:47:56]

iamlindoro_:

perhaps try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc

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EnderTheThird:

there should be a /dev/lirc# somewhere, right?

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iamlindoro_:

not until lircd is running properly

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EnderTheThird:

Just reconf'd it, and no dice

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iamlindoro_:

did you restart lircd after?

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iamlindoro_:

go ahead and use the service

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EnderTheThird:

Yeah. Hard do diagnose when lircd doesn't give me anything to work off of.

[07:49:59]

iamlindoro_:

hmm, dunno then... best to try the mythbuntu channel, though, I have no idea what particular paculiarities it has

[07:50:09]

iamlindoro_:

er peculiarities

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EnderTheThird:

I'm in there, but the channel is dead.

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iamlindoro_:

may need to be patient

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iamlindoro_:

or try again tomorrow

[07:50:50]

iamlindoro_:

I need to hit the sack, work soon

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iamlindoro_:

good luck

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EnderTheThird:

thanks for the help man

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EnderTheThird:

take it easy

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frahi:

you can test the hardware side of lirc with irw

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frahi:

dpkg-reconfigure is just overwritting when it is started the first time – I succeeded with purge and reinstall

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EnderTheThird:

irw kills my lirc

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frahi:

ha, I had the same behaviour yesterday

[07:53:58]

frahi:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lir . . . 370fbbf0202c

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EnderTheThird:

Well I'll be a son of a bitch...

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frahi:

this was the howto I used

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EnderTheThird:

frahi, I wish you'd woken up from your nap earlier. Purge and reinstall worked. Why in the hell didn't I try that right away?

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EnderTheThird:

Maybe it was missing a dependency but didn't know it when I installed at first, I don't know.

[07:56:04]

EnderTheThird:

Working fine now.

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EnderTheThird:

Thanks

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Freman:

so um.... my 120 gig mythtv drive is about to kick the bucket.

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Freman:

do I grab the two 320's that are laying around and throw them in in raid0, or just go buy a 750

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tank-man:

if you got money, sure :)

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EnderTheThird:

*a* 750? why stop there? ;-)

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Freman:

difference being – I can do the raid0 'now' or I have to wait until at least monday to do 750 gigs

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Freman:

not enough for 2

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Freman:

this is a drive for recording to

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Freman:

most shows don't hang around for long tho

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Freman:

so I'm not overly conserned with capacity – however we are now recording hdtv

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Freman:

well

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Freman:

won't be getting the 750, the damn store is shut till 3rd of jan!

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EnderTheThird:

Anyone know of a channel icon grabbing script that gets icons with decent resolution? The ones this one grabbed from zap2it are awful. :-/

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justinh:

make your own icons then :)

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tank-man:

that sounds so ghetto

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justinh:

anyway why do you need bigger icons? they generally take up 32x32 pixels in a theme, so I think the problem is that they're being scaled & that's why they look so ropey

[09:23:14]

justinh:

the OSD is currently on a 640x480 base resolution which gets scaled to whatever res you run X at (or whatever res myth plays video at). that can look crappy at higher than 640x480 res ;)

[09:24:23]

justinh:

that's been fixed in trunk now though so OSD themes can use higher base resolutions & consequently not look so bad

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Dibblah:

Argh. Bloody nvidia drivers.

[10:09:07]

Dibblah:

They can't do 1366*768 at native resolution.

[10:09:45]

Dibblah:

Since 1366 isn't a multiple of 8.

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Dibblah:

Yes, I know it makes the hardware simpler. But... Arrrgh!

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Freman:

hmmm jbod or raid0

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quicksilver:

I hope radio times fix up their xml before new year...

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quicksilver:

not that I pay much for the service :) so I don't have much right to complain.

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Saviq:

guys is any of you using the MythAppleTrailers? does it work with current MythFrontend?

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Dibblah:

quicksilver: Â£120 / year is "not much" ?

[11:59:22]

quicksilver:

Dibblah: does my license fee pay for radio times xmltv?

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quicksilver:

I thought radio times made money in the conventional way printed magazines make money: cover price + adverts.

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Dibblah:

quicksilver: Interesting. You're right, it appears.

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quicksilver:

and their website, presumably, loses money but tries to offset that a little with web adverts

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quicksilver:

and their XMLtv really doesn't gain them much

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quicksilver:

the only exposure they get is that some xmltv users read their reviews

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Dibblah:

... Unfortunately. ;)

[12:11:55]

quicksilver:

now I've used myth for a couple of years, I believe I actually would pay for xmltv.

[12:12:02]

quicksilver:

But, if I were a new user, I probably wouldn't.

[12:12:20]

quicksilver:

takes a while to perceive the value in a fairly reliable two-week listing.

[12:13:07]

Dibblah:

I absolutely would pay.

[12:13:33]

Dibblah:

To get rid of these stupid review length descriptions, for one.

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quicksilver:

;)

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xand:

hmm

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xand:

is that why mythfilldatabase isn't working... i haven't gotten round to looking at it >.<

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xand:

oh... and why is it called xmltv when it's a ~ separated file :|

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xand:

oh I see, no data for next year, and the index page is still buggered :|

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at0m|c:

hi, i've ran into a small annoyance: different machines (backend, frontends) have different UID's and GID's for mythtv. i think files are 644 by default, but that makes moving the files using a different UID not possible. i currently occasionally run a script that sets media files to 666, but it's some hassle to do that each time i upload some pics from my cam, for example. anyone have a solution for this?

[12:29:36]

xand:

make the mythtv UID and GID the same on each machine?

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xand:

that's what I do

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at0m|c:

have been thinking of that, but i wasn't sure if all files (~/, /myth, who knows what else) would be ok with that

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xand:

use find to find the ones owned by mythtv and chown them

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at0m|c:

does the ownership of all files get transferred as well? or is that some script job

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at0m|c:

right

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xand:

find /blah -uid 123 -exec chown mythtv {} \;

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xand:

for example

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xand:

123 being the old uid

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at0m|c:

right

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at0m|c:

thanks xand for helping me out on this one

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quicksilver:

at0m|c: or, set up a NFS uid map

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yalu:

hello! I'm going to use MythTV... ain't that good news ;) . I was just wondering though: the howto on mythtv.org, how up to date/out of date is it? it contains some fairly old references (say debian 3.0, mysql 3 or 4)

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at0m|c:

quicksilver, that sounds convenient for other users too. will check it out!

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quicksilver:

yalu: if you're on the debian, the simplest way software-wise is to install the packages

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quicksilver:

yalu: the hard bit is normally getting drivers working for all your hardware :P

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yalu:

I'm going for Gentoo quicksilver . it seems like a most suitable distro for things like MythTV. The cpu is also un-generic (a via C3 which has none of the instructions thet modern pentiums hae except mmx and sse, and no, off course I won't be encoding in software. I was thinking about getting a Plextor ConvertX).

[12:53:35]

yalu:

I just don't like wasting my time reading out of date documentation, so it's handy to know if the official howto is out of date or not

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quicksilver:

well, as you correctly point out, it is slightly out of date

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quicksilver:

I don't *think* it will cause big problems.

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yalu:

I'll probably spend the rest of the day compiling first

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yalu:

(correction, the computer will)

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quicksilver:

That's why I don't use gentoo :P

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XLV:

yalu, setup distcc and ccache, to compile on other faster pcs on the network simultaneously

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quicksilver:

I'd rather install new software in 15 seconds than 4 hours, given the choice.

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blackest:

is there a livecd for myth ?

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yalu:

well, this box won't contain much more software then mythtv anyway... I once compiled the entire KDE on a 300 MHz ultrasparc. started and finished during the weekend, but not the same weekend :D . XLV: the reason I don't use distcc is that my other computers run different distros, so different compiler versions...

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yalu:

blackest: knoppmyth

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yalu:

it's frontend-only though

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blackest:

so no good for you then

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XLV:

blackest, mythbuntu also

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blackest:

actually that might be good for me just been rebuilding some computers out of old junk i found in a room

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blackest:

i've just got a 1.25 ghz athlon ressurected

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blackest:

was a bit of a pain trying to get enough ram together found about 20 sdrams and turns out most were 32's

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blackest:

still got a working 256 and 128 out of em so its not too slow a system

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yalu:

I actually wanted to encode to ogg theora ... turned out I would need 4 or 5 times more cpu power than my most powerful system had

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blackest:

what systems are you running yalu

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yalu:

blackest: various things. a fileserver (pentium 133, 64 MB ram), desktop (athlon xp 1800+ with 768 MB ram and a good sata disk running mainly kubuntu), a sun ultra5 for backups, some old crap, and a Via based system (C3 "nehemiah" cpu @ 1.3 GHz, 512 MB ram, 250 GB ide disk) which will become the mythbox

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yalu:

most importantly they're named after fruits

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BULLE:

yalu: he, i name my computers after different types of mental retardation =D

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yalu:

rotfl

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yalu:

yalu@borderline$ ssh yalu@asperger

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BULLE:

mongoloid, schizoid and so on

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BULLE:

but their name are in swedish

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yalu:

don't people find your boxen offensive?

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BULLE:

yalu: most of my machines just sit on a private net based on 192.168 so very few see their names

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BULLE:

publicly available machines are all named after southpark characters

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BULLE:

yalu: also, i live in northern scandinavia, here its not easy to offend people realy

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yalu:

hehe

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Cyberai:

anyone here know much about xml and how to do encapsulation for passing to outside apps like Xine?

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Cyberai:

I'm writing a bit of code for MythTV and Myth wants the xml one way and Xine wants it another.

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Dibblah:

Why XML and why use Xine?

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quicksilver:

you can knock up quick and dirty xml conversions using a commandline tool called xmlstarlet

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rhp:

Anyone around that is experienced in troubleshooting via epia xvmc problems?

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Cyberai:

well, I'm constructing a menu of entries that point to media files on the internet. If the url's in the xml MythTV menu contain an "&" symbol, MythTV is OK with it. But when the URL is passed to Xine, it wants the "&" to be in HTML symbology format – ie "&".

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Cyberai:

if I change the xml entries in MythTV to "&", then MythTV freaks out and won't read the menu.

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Cyberai:

a better view and explanation is here – http://pastebin.ca/834818

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frahi:

maybe you can write a small wrapper around xine that changes the URLs

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Cyberai:

frahi – that's BRILLIANT!

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Cyberai:

thanks!

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i3ooi3oo:

fryfrog: I broke my mythbox :(

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justinh:

rhp: I fixed my via epia xvmc problems

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justinh:

I got rid of the junk

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justinh:

I know I keep going on about it but people need to be warned ;)

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jams:

justinh- your not be too annoying..the fact that your words are true help alot =)

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justinh:

tell you what is annoying though, this coding effort sapping my will to continue. I'm not even on the right track yet

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justinh:

doh! slipped up on letter case

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jams:

Qstring vs QString ?

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justinh:

tagname vs tagName

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rhp:

justinh: I updated a working box for various reasons (one being I wanted to update to a later version of mythtv). Now when I am watching video, the CPU is at 100% and the remote hardly responds (probably because of that).

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justinh:

rhp: been there a few times I can tell you

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rhp:

I recently installed mythbuntu 7.10 and updated the video driver to openchrome after that.

[15:24:25]

rhp:

The funny thing is that xine works like a charm with xvmc.

[15:24:30]

justinh:

if you want a ready made distro which'll definitely work with epia crap, knoppmyth will probably be fine

[15:25:05]

i3ooi3oo:

justinh: i couldn't find knoppmyth last month

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jams:

tried to convince cesman to drop epia support but he didn't go for it.

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i3ooi3oo:

all the servers were down

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jams:

i3ooi3oo- the server moved, it's back up now

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jams:

knoppmyth.net

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justinh:

aha! missing curly again

[15:26:16]

justinh:

maybe it'd make my life a whole load easier if I use an editor with highlighting :P

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rhp:

One of the reasons I updated was because I wanted the epia to run the same distro as my mythbackend. I installed ubuntu on that recently too, because I use that as a general purpose computer. I would like to keep both systems on the same distro to minimize problems between the two.

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jams:

justinh- kate works pretty well

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rhp:

I gather you lot do not seem like big epia fans?

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justinh:

jams: I know but my dev box is a bit slow

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jams:

rhp- some are justinh and myself are not

[15:27:33]

justinh:

rhp: after having sufferred the frustration of seemingly unreliable performance, no I'm not

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rhp:

understandable.

[15:28:22]

justinh:

I've come to the conclusion that anything which relies on hardware acceleration just to play SDTV is only fit for the bin

[15:28:26]

rhp:

Before updating it worked relatively stable, though.

[15:29:06]

justinh:

I honestly don't think there's a wide enough user base of epia owners for bugs to get reported & stomped on

[15:29:41]

rhp:

Which does not help much searching for solutions too, I've noticed.

[15:30:19]

justinh:

I've always said don't get me wrong, I think they're a fantastic idea. they just don't work so well in the real world & it's a shame

[15:31:20]

rhp:

justinh: Would you have any pointers to where I should look nonetheless?

[15:31:30]

justinh:

I really like my new frontend. it was a _bitch_ to get working right (tv out on open source intel drivers) but once it was.. oh boy :)

[15:31:47]

GreyFoxx:

Ever submit your driver changes back?

[15:32:20]

GreyFoxx:

You had to make several didn't you ?

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justinh:

GreyFoxx: not got around to it yet, and I've learned there's a problem with them in that the number I changed is also used to calculate the number of lines. needs a proper seeing to

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GreyFoxx:

ahhh

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justinh:

again it's a case where the user base isn't very wide so it's gone unreported

[15:34:04]

justinh:

rhp: IIRC xine has its own xvmc library – can't be 100% sure of that though, so xine working doesn't prove much AFAIK

[15:35:57]

justinh:

GreyFoxx: at least with my nfsroot I can chop & change stuff at will with little risk ;)

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rhp:

justinh: If nothing else, it proves that it is possible to get it working right.

[15:37:17]

justinh:

I'm still seeing tearing occasionally – maybe that has something to do with the change I made too

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rhp:

Do you recognize these messages: "VideoOutputXv Error: Child G was already marked as available."

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justinh:

nope

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justinh:

maybe all you need is to tweak your xorg.conf

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rhp:

I also get a "VideoOutputXv: XvMCTex: Init failed" message. Googling for it did not help much.

[15:38:24]

rhp:

justinh: maybe, if I only knew how.

[15:38:44]

justinh:

that's the problem when you change distros

[15:38:57]

justinh:

.. without backing up important files first ;)

[15:39:44]

justinh:

ok. now I need to make the theme parser in this code work out the arrow filenames so they're not hard-coded

[15:40:06]

justinh:

be nice if I can also find out the image size so that isn't hard coded either

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justinh:

this is proving to be much harder than I envisaged but I like a challenge

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rhp:

Well, buy another EPIA in that case :-)

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** Dibblah wants a proper COW filesystem. **

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GreyFoxx:

justinh: hehe that's how it always ends up

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GreyFoxx:

I had video working with the 360 last friday, but that spiraled into getting music working too and rewriting the upnp video class to navigate like a file browser rather than rebuild reports :)

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GreyFoxx:

yay for xmas breaks :)

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Dibblah:

As in one common netboot directory, with layers for each box.

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MilhousePunkRock:

Hello everyone!

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MilhousePunkRock:

How come mythtv zooms the picture if a channel broadcasts something in 16:9 although I have zoom set to "off", as I have a 4:3 screen?

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Saviq:

what do you mean 'zoom'?

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MilhousePunkRock:

Saviq: It removes the black bars on top and bottom and the people look like coneheads ;)

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jams:

GreyFoxx- yesterdays problem is solved. Ended up running the output of mkfs through tr to change ^H to \n

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fryfrog:

i3ooi3oo: doh?

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i3ooi3oo:

yeah i started to update some stuff like the mythweb and it didn't like the protocol version of the backend

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fryfrog:

you have to update everything

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i3ooi3oo:

tshould be good soon

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fryfrog:

ie, first mythtv, then mythplugins

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i3ooi3oo:

yeah i tried but for some reason the first time i ./configure i forgot my --prefix

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i3ooi3oo:

then it would never configure correctly

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fryfrog:

ah

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i3ooi3oo:

endded up make uninstall then deleteing the src untar again then reconfigure and such

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fryfrog:

once you get it right "./configure --previous" is nice :)

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i3ooi3oo:

my problem was all my file were in the right location /usr as the prefix but when running it would state it was running with prefix /usr/local

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fryfrog:

ah, so you ended up with it installed in both places

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fryfrog:

i've done that on accident

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fryfrog:

"which" is a good tool for figuring out if that is the case

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fryfrog:

ie: which mythfrontend

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i3ooi3oo:

no i would run it with /usr/bin/mythfrontend -v all and it would start with prefix /usr/local

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fryfrog:

ah

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i3ooi3oo:

iteven thou i had re ran configure with the correct --prefix and then re make and make install all which used /usr but it was still hard coded for /usr/local

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i3ooi3oo:

looks good now but i am not at home right now so i can't run mythtv-setup

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i3ooi3oo:

no rdp

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i3ooi3oo:

but it does report it is running with prefix /usr now

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i3ooi3oo:

i wonder if i should actully work today ?

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i3ooi3oo:

thats what i get for starting with package based then moving to src

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i3ooi3oo:

it happens everytime (it being some goes awre)

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i3ooi3oo:

what does the mythtv-setup actually do ?

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xris:

sets up mythtv?

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i3ooi3oo:

does it create .conf or something ?

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xris:

database

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i3ooi3oo:

ok but it requires x and i am not at home

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i3ooi3oo:

and i want to get my backend back up

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i3ooi3oo:

i know all my settings

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iamlindoro:

theoretically if you were running something like cygwin you could ssh -X to your host and tunnel mythtv-setup

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iamlindoro:

or, even better, if you were on a linux box right now :)

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i3ooi3oo:

I am

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i3ooi3oo:

oic

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iamlindoro:

http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html if you need a reference

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i3ooi3oo:

nice iamlindoro

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iamlindoro:

I am to please

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iamlindoro:

er aim

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i3ooi3oo:

well i got it so it knows it is runnign from /usr now insted of /usr/local

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iamlindoro:

yeah, saw that

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iamlindoro:

good sign

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i3ooi3oo:

yes it is

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i3ooi3oo:

maybe now it can find the files it needs

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iamlindoro:

I hope so... so long as you got all the old crud cleared out you should be in good shape

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** i3ooi3oo writes down the -X for ssh is nice **

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i3ooi3oo:

ssh over cdma modem to home system :)

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iamlindoro:

Definitely. Now granted, I wouldn't want to watch tv over it, but to run a few little programs.. nice

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i3ooi3oo:

well mainly i want to just get mybackend up

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i3ooi3oo:

and maybe add my music collect back into the database

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i3ooi3oo:

*collection

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i3ooi3oo:

damn really slow thou

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iamlindoro:

<i3ooi3oo> ssh over cdma modem to home system :)

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iamlindoro:

;)

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iamlindoro:

Two words in there jump out at me

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i3ooi3oo:

yeah i thought it was locked so hit enter a few times and then when i walked back to it it went thought like 5 screens then exited

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i3ooi3oo:

hey i get 1.4 mbps

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iamlindoro:

Plus, you should probably stop downloding German Sheisse Porn until you're done

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i3ooi3oo:

nope all torents are off

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i3ooi3oo:

roomate could be thou

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iamlindoro:

i3ooi3oo, So mythtv-setup is actually running-properly this time, then?

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i3ooi3oo:

yep looks like it how ever slow it is

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i3ooi3oo:

exited without a segmentation error

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i3ooi3oo:

that is a first

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iamlindoro:

hehe

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i3ooi3oo:

need tp uncap my cable modem

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i3ooi3oo:

the 80kmbs up is what is killing me

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i3ooi3oo:

*80kbps

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GreyFoxx:

Pay them more money :)

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GreyFoxx:

They will likely happily increase it :)

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Toxicity999:

i3ooi3oo good luck these days, so many modems are a pain to do anything with, let alone uncapping.

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xand:

80kbps?!

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GreyFoxx:

he likely means KB :)

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Toxicity999:

I would hope so.

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Toxicity999:

Othwise you could barely sustain modern IRC =P

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GreyFoxx:

IRC takes no more BW now than it did 17 years ago :)

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squish102:

GreyFoxx, any news on the dsm-320 testing with upnp?

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GreyFoxx:

squish102: For some reason mine plays mpeg files happily not craps out on anything else

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GreyFoxx:

and for some reason now it wont even show link like on the ethernet port so I'm working on xbox360 music streaming for the moment

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squish102:

mine works (without FF or Rewind) on mpeg2, but nothing else

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GreyFoxx:

until I figure out why ethernet link isn't working all of the sudden I can't track down why

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squish102:

but it must be something mythtv is doing/not doing as a xvid will work on windows home server and dsm-320 but not mythtv and dsm-320

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GreyFoxx:

I'm aware of that, I've tried it with several upnp servers

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squish102:

all my hopes on mythtv/dsm-320 are relying on you ;)

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GreyFoxx:

we use to have some work arounds in the code specifically for the DSM series clients. those might have been accidentially removed

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squish102:

is uPnP AV robust enough to replace mythfrontend eventually?

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GreyFoxx:

That will depends on what features you want from afrontend

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GreyFoxx:

I don't see any of the plays out there doing it completely

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GreyFoxx:

s/plays/players

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squish102:

is that a restriction on the upnp av standard, or the client implementation?

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GreyFoxx:

both

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squish102:

ok that sucks then

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GreyFoxx:

You are never going to have mythgame on a upnp client

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GreyFoxx:

you are never going to have mytharchive ona upnp client

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GreyFoxx:

etc etc

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GreyFoxx:

so it depends on what features you want

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GreyFoxx:

for basic playback of recordings, music and videos sure

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GreyFoxx:

Maybe even scheduling if the upnp client supports it

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GreyFoxx:

but most don't

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squish102:

ok, but other mythtv features like commercial jumping would be available?

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GreyFoxx:

doubtful

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squish102:

or is it limited to the more basic video stuff

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GreyFoxx:

but it will depend on the client

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squish102:

have u had a look at the popcornhour device?

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GreyFoxx:

brb gotta make my daughter lunch

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GreyFoxx:

squidly: Nope, never seen it

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][eBerg:

has anyone looked at the sdk for blackmagic to see if it provides any insight to builging a linux driver for the intensity pro?

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hobophobe:

Is there windows HTPC software that's best and will be easier to use with a mythtv frontend for playing video back at another location?

[18:32:52]

hobophobe:

Basically my brother wants his computer to record tv, but his tv is in another room where I'll be putting another computer that'll be running linux. So I figured he can upload recorded video to the server and use mythvideo to watch on the tv?

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hobophobe:

(and he runs windows)

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iamlindoro:

Myth can play most formats fine, just use a recording software that doesn't encumber its recordings with DRM... I would avoid MCE

[18:35:09]

iamlindoro:

BeyondTV might work, they probably record to something fairly standard

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hobophobe:

Yeah, I just didn't know if there were any that were myth-friendlier than others and other than that if any of them were considered "good software despite being on windows" :)

[18:35:48]

iamlindoro:

Well, myth-friendliest is just using myth properly, and not trying to do the recording elsewhere

[18:36:23]

iamlindoro:

But if pressed to answer the original question, my answer is "anything but MCE." Look at BeyondTV and Mediaportal

[18:36:32]

hobophobe:

Okay, cool.

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iamlindoro:

Probably won't get much sympathy here when it doesn't work, though ;)

[18:37:40]

hobophobe:

Understood. If I had my choice he'd be running myth (I've run it for over a year and love it)

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GreyFoxx:

you could use mythrename.pl to give readable names to the recording files, and share out the recordings directory

[18:38:42]

GreyFoxx:

then he could use any software he likes to play them assuming you don't transcode them to nuv files

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, I think he's trying to do it the other way around... ie, record elsewhere and play in mythvideo

[18:39:45]

GreyFoxx:

store the elsewhere recordings in a shre and mount the share to somewhere under your mythvideo root directory then ?

[18:39:47]

hobophobe:

Yeah, because the computer near his tv (actually the one I'm on right now) is linux. Good to know about mythrename.pl though. Didn't know that existed.

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JamesP:

Quick question: Is there a way to set up channel changing without having to hit the enter when I use Channel+ and Channel-

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iamlindoro:

JamesP, yes

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iamlindoro:

Go to TV Playback settings, there's a tickbox about that

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iamlindoro:

Something to the effect of disabling or enabling browse mode, i'm not in front of my myth system now

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JamesP:

hmmm... I thought I set that... let me check again

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JamesP:

thx

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iamlindoro:

oh wait

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iamlindoro:

I may have given you bad info

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JamesP:

hehe... would not be the first time I have been given bad info

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iamlindoro:

hmm, no, try that first and then we'll go from there

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JamesP:

k... let me check

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iamlindoro:

Will be painful to wait 3–4 seconds for retune and record every time you want to change channels

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iamlindoro:

You're talking thirty seconds to change ten channels

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iamlindoro:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/User_Manual:Watch_TV

[18:48:23]

iamlindoro:

First item, looks like I didn't give bad info after all ;)

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JamesP:

ahhh... perfect... the page I have been looking for

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JamesP:

well... techincally, you gave be bad information when you said you gave me bad information

[18:51:04]

JamesP:

;)

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iamlindoro:

ergo "may"

[18:51:39]

iamlindoro:

so, still basically true

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i3ooi3oo:

w00t

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i3ooi3oo:

backend running

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iamlindoro:

i3ooi3oo, Sounds like the sweet sounds of success

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** iamlindoro pats himself on the back **

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i3ooi3oo:

now how do i install modules into mythweb

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iamlindoro:

Hrm? You don't.

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i3ooi3oo:

thanks iamlindoro

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iamlindoro:

Music/Video etc will show up when you add them to the database

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i3ooi3oo:

ok

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i3ooi3oo:

that it

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iamlindoro:

ie do a video scan and find some videos and the video icon will appear

[18:53:17]

iamlindoro:

likewise with music

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i3ooi3oo:

is there a way to do that from the cli

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iamlindoro:

No

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i3ooi3oo:

damn

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iamlindoro:

Yeah... ssh -X again ;)

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i3ooi3oo:

yep

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i3ooi3oo:

the import of the music takes forever

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i3ooi3oo:

10k+ songs

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i3ooi3oo:

but since i am at work i got the time

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i3ooi3oo:

shh don't tell the boss

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** JamesP thanks iamlindoro **

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JamesP:

that did it

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iamlindoro:

JamesP, Glad to hear it, no problem

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iamlindoro:

i3ooi3oo, aw, no harm there, I'm at work too

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iamlindoro:

watching my RAID rebuild tick tick tick...

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i3ooi3oo:

sw or hw raid ?

[19:02:52]

Freman:

you CAN use it while it rebuilds (if it's a pure linux software raid)

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iamlindoro:

I know I can use it

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iamlindoro:

software

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iamlindoro:

Doesn't mean I can *get* anything onto it from the office

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i3ooi3oo:

w00t got the first menu

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iamlindoro:

i3ooi3oo, Hehe, sometimes it's the little things that make all the difference

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i3ooi3oo:

loading video manager

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** i3ooi3oo is waiting **

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i3ooi3oo:

why is there no .conf file i could just create

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iamlindoro:

because myth doesn't use config files (beyond database communication)... it all lives in the database

[19:16:12]

iamlindoro:

If you put your mind to it you could write something that took a config file, converted it into mysql statements and inserted the info into appropriate tables, I suppose

[19:16:35]

iamlindoro:

But then, that's basically what mythtv-setup/mythfrontend does for you

[19:18:10]

hobophobe:

How should I be using schedules direct with multiple recorders? Is it acceptable that they both download the data or is there a way they can share the data (same lineup)?

[19:18:39]

iamlindoro:

hobophobe, You'll have to check the license but I believe it is per-household

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iamlindoro:

they can share the data if one is a master backend and one is a slave backend, btw

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bsdfox_:

is svn compiling right now? I keep getting errors on audiooutput.o

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iamlindoro:

bsdfox_, was going to update today, I'll start one now and let you know

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bsdfox_:

cool

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hobophobe:

Yes iamlindoro thanks, I found a sd forum thread that agrees with you :)

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gandalfcome:

I used mythbuntu installation on my gutsy desktop. Now everything works except my backend demon doesnt start. Interestingly enough the mythbackend process will run and give me tv, but the init script wont start the backend

[19:26:43]

gandalfcome:

thanks in advance

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hobophobe:

gandalfcome, sounds mainly like a mythbuntu maintenance issue? can you pastebin (http://pastebin.ca/) the output from the init script?

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iamlindoro:

bsdfox_, Just to confirm, your issue is with mythtv proper and not plugins?

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iamlindoro:

compiling now

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bsdfox_:

yes

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hobophobe:

gandalfcome, or possibly the mythbackend.log after running the initscript when it fails (probably /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log)

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gandalfcome:

hobophobe: well seems to be a permission issue on the file system

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gandalfcome:

hobophobe: could have found this out myself, sorry :D

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hobophobe:

ah, okay. when you run it, has permission... when initscript does, it's a different user/group so no permission?

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gandalfcome:

I guess so

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i3ooi3oo:

w00t 300 video imported

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clever[rev]:

0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)

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clever[rev]:

does that card support xvmc with mpeg2?

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iamlindoro:

I *think* that might be too old for XvMC

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iamlindoro:

whoops, no it's not

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iamlindoro:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC#Nvidia

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clever[rev]:

ah

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clever[rev]:

now to figure out how

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clever[rev]:

0000:02:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. ViRGE/DX or /GX (rev 01)

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clever[rev]:

ive also got one of those in the box just incase:P

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iamlindoro:

clever[rev], The part that everyone seems to always neglect to explain is editing /etc/X11/XvMCConfig

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clever[rev]:

XvMCWrapper: Could not open config file "/etc/X11/XvMCConfig".

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clever[rev]:

http://www.pastebin.ca/835249

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bsdfox:

iamlindoro: any luck? mine died pretty early

[19:44:03]

iamlindoro:

bsdfox, still happily compiling along

[19:44:14]

iamlindoro:

It's been a few weeks since my last update so my cache isn't helping me much

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iamlindoro:

Sure *looks* like it's going to succeed, anyway

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iamlindoro:

clever[rev], You need to create that file, with only one line lin it

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: i made a script which basicaly does ccache -c;./configure;make;ccache -s

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clever[rev]:

so that the stats it outputs will be for the current rebuild

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iamlindoro:

bsdfox, Compile succeeded

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clever[rev]:

except it also does it to plugings and themes and does the svn update

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iamlindoro:

clever[rev], As does my script

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clever[rev]:

:)

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: http://www.pastebin.ca/835256

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iamlindoro:

clever, /etc/X11/XvMCConfig should contain one line:

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iamlindoro:

libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1

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iamlindoro:

Then you ought to be all set... and with that, lunchtime

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clever[rev]:

cpu usage doesnt seem any diff

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iamlindoro:

restart X

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clever[rev]:

ahh

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i3ooi3oo:

somebody told me you can creat play list from mythweb

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i3ooi3oo:

how ?

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: kdm restarted:)

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CaptObviousman:

anyone here use a bluetooth keyboard/mouse over a radio one?

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CaptObviousman:

choose to*

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: feels like xvmc is working now

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: my osd has gone color blind

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clever[rev]:

i think my cpu usage is lower but its not a major differences

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clever[rev]:

isnt as dramatic as framegrabber vs pvr150(100%->5%)

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clever[rev]:

CaptObviousman: they are obviously both radio based:P

[20:00:32]

CaptObviousman:

well yeah, but bluetooth range is better

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clever[rev]:

and you can share a single receiver dongle between multiple devices

[20:00:51]

CaptObviousman:

which means it probably has not-as-long battery life

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CaptObviousman:

I've just read bad things about people buying cheap wireless mice and then having trouble with range and reception

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CaptObviousman:

bluetooth doesn't suffer from that

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clever[rev]:

i have a optical wireless mouse

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clever[rev]:

and if i have a wire running near the mouse AND receiver

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clever[rev]:

i can get it to work at great distances

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clever[rev]:

mouse 1 floor up on the kitchen counter

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clever[rev]:

near the composite video cable from the tvout

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CaptObviousman:

I don't understand what you mean "wire near the mouse AND receiver"

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clever[rev]:

i just run any old wire between the 2

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clever[rev]:

and lay it near both

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clever[rev]:

the signal kindof colects into the wire like an antena and leaks out near the wire

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clever[rev]:

extends it better then just air

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clever[rev]:

it can also go thru a few walls too

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CaptObviousman:

well I'm thinking it would probably be best to buy the cheap wireless keybaord/mouse combo and see how well it works

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clever[rev]:

bluetooth i know has 3 main ranges depending on the class you buy

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clever[rev]:

1meter 10meters and 100

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bsdfox:

iamlindoro: what gcc are you using?

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clever[rev]:

and with directional antenas you can get even more

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bsdfox:

audiooutput.cpp:126: error: no match for â€˜operator<<â€™ in â€˜verbose_macro_tmp << dtimeâ€™

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CaptObviousman:

good god there's a billion and a half things left to do and buy

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EnderTheThird:

Anyone here have DD-WRT set up?

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EnderTheThird:

I forgot to set up port forwarding on my router and I'm trying to configure it via SSH and lynx, but the link isn't there for setup. I'm hoping I can just enter the URL for the setup page.

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EnderTheThird:

Nevermind. I guess I did get it setup before I left. I just didn't wait long enough for Gnump3d to restart. Rock on.

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xand:

EnderTheThird: in such cases, you can tunnel http over ssh using port forwarding

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xand:

OH

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xand:

i'm getting bios messages on my tv using my butchered geforce card

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xand:

now to work out X

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EnderTheThird:

xand: I've tunneled localhost:80 for mythweb before. that doesn't tunnel all sites i visit though, does it? though it was just localhost?

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xand:

correct

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xand:

you'd need squid or something to tunnel everything

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EnderTheThird:

PuTTY can't do it?

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GreyFoxx:

Only if you run Squid on the machine you are port forwarding too :)

[20:42:15]

EnderTheThird:

hmmm, guess i'll need to look into that then. thanks.

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EnderTheThird:

speaking of which, have you had any luck with xdmcp on Gutsy?

[20:43:00]

EnderTheThird:

i'm setting up MythTV for my cousin, and it'd be great if I could login remotely to admin it when needed. I don't quite know how to do everything via SSH.

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** GreyFoxx runs squid on my colo box, and it's only reachable via localhost/ssh portforwad for when I'm travelling or using a laptop on awireless network I dont control **

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xand:

EnderTheThird: I wouldn't use xdmcp over the internet

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GreyFoxx:

EnderTheThird: X11vnc + ssh portforwarding is just about the simplest

[20:47:10]

EnderTheThird:

that's fine. link for a howto by chance?

[20:47:20]

GreyFoxx:

nope

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GreyFoxx:

I am my own howto

[20:47:34]

EnderTheThird:

haha

[20:47:53]

EnderTheThird:

I know it's an option in Mythbuntu Control Centre. Maybe I'll mess around with it tonight after work.

[20:48:04]

GreyFoxx:

ssh to the box, portforwarding localhost port 5901 to remote machines localhost port 5900

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GreyFoxx:

once you connect run x11vnc -display :0 on the remote machine

[20:48:27]

J-e-f-f-A:

EnderTheThird: I use putty to tunnel to my myth box from work.

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GreyFoxx:

then vnc to localhost:1 on the client

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GreyFoxx:

boom, portforwarded vnc over ssh which only listens while you are connected

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GreyFoxx:

as soon as you close vnc x11vnc will auto shutdown (when run this way with no config file)

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EnderTheThird:

i think i caught most of that, heh. i can't check it out for another 8 hours or so when i get home

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justinh:

freenx is great for remote desking :) secure too

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justinh:

and way, _way_ faster than vnc

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xand:

vnc is awful

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** J-e-f-f-A just tunnels stuff thru ssh... **

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GreyFoxx:

never tried freenx, but most machines I need to use to remote connect to a mythbox have a vnc client on them already

[20:51:40]

EnderTheThird:

i tunnel mythweb over ssh all the time, but I need to be able to run mythsetup and see what he has on his frontend setup if he has any trouble.

[20:52:11]

i3ooi3oo:

ssh -X

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i3ooi3oo:

i just did it

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J-e-f-f-A:

EnderTheThird: So connect with SSH, setup a VNC tunnel, and use vnc...

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i3ooi3oo:

I just ssh -X mythtv@serverip then run mythtv-setup

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J-e-f-f-A:

EnderTheThird: (Or if you're coming from a linux box, see i3ooi3oo and others' suggestions above...) I often am coming from a windoze box, so I use vnc.

[20:53:48]

i3ooi3oo:

right now i am running mythfrontend from my house on my laptop's X over a CDMA modem

[20:54:16]

EnderTheThird:

hmmm, lemme try that out (in windows now but i have a 2nd computer running linux here)

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i3ooi3oo:

started to by uninstalling mythtv

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i3ooi3oo:

compiled and ran setup remotely

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i3ooi3oo:

so i didn't have wait when i got b ack home

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bsdfox:

nx is great

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i3ooi3oo:

[11:50] <iamlindoro> theoretically if you were running something like cygwin you could ssh -X to your host and tunnel mythtv-setup

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EnderTheThird:

If you use ssh -X, don't you just need to put -X when running any command in ssh to give you the GUI?

[21:00:17]

EnderTheThird:

because i'm not getting that, heh

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CaptObviousman:

-X enables X forwarding, yes

[21:01:16]

CaptObviousman:

you should be getting an error message if it won't run

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iamlindoro:

no, you just run ssh -X user@host

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iamlindoro:

then run a command as usual, ie gparted

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iamlindoro:

of course you need an x server available on the client side, eg Cygwin/X, or linux running X11

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EnderTheThird:

i'm ssh'ing from linux right now

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i3ooi3oo:

[11:50] <iamlindoro> theoretically if you were running something like cygwin you could ssh -X to your host and tunnel mythtv-setup?

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i3ooi3oo:

Damn it

[21:06:29]

EnderTheThird:

hmmm, it started a gedit screen but then freezes

[21:06:53]

i3ooi3oo:

iamlindoro: is there any truth to what somebody told be about being able to create/edit playlist

[21:06:55]

mchou:

anyone here watch "30 Rock?"

[21:07:02]

i3ooi3oo:

EnderTheThird: give it time it willbe slow

[21:07:06]

i3ooi3oo:

yeah

[21:07:14]

iamlindoro:

i3ooi3oo, I dunno, what were you told?

[21:07:15]

i3ooi3oo:

mchou: i have the 1st season

[21:07:19]

EnderTheThird:

the whole computer froze. couldn't even get to tty

[21:07:30]

i3ooi3oo:

that it could be done

[21:07:41]

iamlindoro:

on MythVideo?

[21:07:45]

iamlindoro:

or music?

[21:07:48]

i3ooi3oo:

music

[21:07:58]

iamlindoro:

Well sure, you can create playlists

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mchou:

i3ooi3oo: a critic said that's the top TV show of 2007. Would you agree with that?

[21:08:06]

iamlindoro:

I think it's "3" in mythmusic

[21:08:31]

i3ooi3oo:

right i know how from mythmusic but from the mythweb is my question

[21:08:32]

mchou:

i3ooi3oo: I've never seen it, is it REALLY that good?

[21:08:49]

i3ooi3oo:

it's ok and funny but not that great

[21:08:59]

iamlindoro:

Ohh... hmm, honestly, I've never tried, I think I took a quick look at that functionality but didn't play with it... I'm probably not the best person to ask

[21:09:42]

mchou:

i3ooi3oo: just so I can understand your tastes, what programs do you regularly watch?

[21:09:50]

i3ooi3oo:

well i had stated i would write couple php pages to facilitate it but again someboy told me you could

[21:10:20]

i3ooi3oo:

Chuck, how I met you mother, thenalot of scifi

[21:10:45]

i3ooi3oo:

battlestar, firefly was great

[21:10:58]

mchou:

i3ooi3oo: ok, that's too much sci fi

[21:10:58]

i3ooi3oo:

Dexter,weeds, califorication

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iamlindoro:

i3ooi3oo, Kormoc and xris would be the ones to ask, looking at the revision log they appear to be the ones working on it/doing the commits

[21:11:40]

i3ooi3oo:

ko

[21:12:35]

i3ooi3oo:

i watched the whole 1st season Christmas Eve

[21:12:42]

i3ooi3oo:

of 30 rock

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mchou:

i3ooi3oo: on DVD?

[21:13:28]

i3ooi3oo:

sure ...

[21:13:36]

i3ooi3oo:

no hdtv rips

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mchou:

the DVD set for 1st season is out already?

[21:14:00]

i3ooi3oo:

i don't think so

[21:14:12]

mchou:

i3ooi3oo: ok

[21:14:42]

mchou:

i3ooi3oo: it's a sitcom, right?

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i3ooi3oo:

yea

[21:15:30]

i3ooi3oo:

about a tv show

[21:15:39]

mchou:

about SNL :)

[21:15:42]

i3ooi3oo:

or the making of a tv show

[21:15:46]

i3ooi3oo:

yeah

[21:16:08]

i3ooi3oo:

tgs = The Girly show

[21:16:32]

i3ooi3oo:

3.7 gb for the first season

[21:16:48]

mchou:

The girly show?

[21:16:57]

mchou:

what's that?

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i3ooi3oo:

Thats their version of SNL

[21:17:20]

mchou:

"I'm going to pump you up?"

[21:17:36]

i3ooi3oo:

that is the nameof the show that 30 rock is about

[21:17:41]

mchou:

i3ooi3oo: ok

[21:18:19]

i3ooi3oo:

i thought the big bang theroy was better

[21:18:27]

mchou:

12 episodes in the first season?

[21:18:32]

i3ooi3oo:

21

[21:18:41]

mchou:

never heard of big bang theory

[21:19:01]

mchou:

21 episodes in one day??

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i3ooi3oo:

it's on CBS

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mchou:

damn. It must be good :)

[21:19:15]

i3ooi3oo:

they are only 30 mins

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mchou:

oh, ok

[21:19:23]

i3ooi3oo:

nope was bored

[21:19:42]

i3ooi3oo:

coding in the living room

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mchou:

if they were 1 hr. epis then darn :)

[21:20:02]

i3ooi3oo:

yeah that would be a feat

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tank-man:

i recorded bigbangtheory by mistake once, it was an ok show

[21:20:38]

i3ooi3oo:

but a 30 mins is actually about 17 mins of watching after commerial are edit out and such

[21:21:07]

tank-man:

watch the shows at 1.2x speed and you can watch them faster lol

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mchou:

I do that all the time now

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mchou:

1.3x

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mchou:

it's really too bad mplayer/xine doesnt have that feature

[21:23:27]

** J-e-f-f-A thanks justinh for the 'freenx' tip... **

[21:23:53]

J-e-f-f-A:

hahaha... playing a video with myth video player shows the video (slowly) on nx, and plays the audio on my backend... ;-)

[21:23:56]

mchou:

cause now DVDs by comparison are too slow :)

[21:24:53]

mchou:

lol, I'm reading up on big bang on imdb.....

[21:25:26]

i3ooi3oo:

i asume that mythtv-user would like since it ia pretty geeky show

[21:25:29]

mchou:

that whiteboard is way too neat: http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0898266/95869_0096 . . . 66&seq=9

[21:26:02]

mchou:

at least they have the Feynman diagrams correct

[21:26:22]

mchou:

somebody must be consulting for them on the show :)

[21:27:20]

i3ooi3oo:

with a show about geeky you have to get the math and science correct

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mchou:

lol

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i3ooi3oo:

iamlindoro look like i went thought all that for a feature not yet created

[21:29:06]

mchou:

most of the time it's wrong

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iamlindoro:

i3ooi3oo, Bummer... well, SVN is better in a number of ways, you'll still benefit

[21:29:32]

i3ooi3oo:

yeah but 4 main chars are nerds

[21:29:42]

i3ooi3oo:

i agree

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mchou:

i3ooi3oo: the chick is a nerd too?

[21:29:59]

i3ooi3oo:

no

[21:30:04]

mchou:

lol

[21:30:08]

i3ooi3oo:

she is too hot for that

[21:30:19]

mchou:

there are hot chick nerds

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i3ooi3oo:

very very few

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mchou:

some are physicists even

[21:30:35]

i3ooi3oo:

but i agree

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i3ooi3oo:

many could be hot if given the time and effort

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mchou:

i3ooi3oo: http://www.physics.harvard.edu/people/facpages/randall.html

[21:31:59]

i3ooi3oo:

many could be hot if given the time and effort ??? what is harvard thinking

[21:32:08]

i3ooi3oo:

Errrrrr

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mchou:

i3ooi3oo: huh??

[21:32:15]

i3ooi3oo:

damn up key

[21:32:37]

i3ooi3oo:

type a line then hit shift and up at the same time while typeing

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i3ooi3oo:

it was" no swimsuit shots, what was harvard thinking

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mchou:

what do you mean by what is harvard thinking?

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mchou:

lol

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i3ooi3oo:

and she is the only female list on the faculity pages

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i3ooi3oo:

*listed

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mchou:

i3ooi3oo: hah, that's no surprise :)

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J-e-f-f-A:

justinh: nx is awesome btw... ;-)

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bsdfox:

wow, svn works way better than the gentoo ebuilds :P

[22:08:02]

iamlindoro:

And how

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siXy:

doesnt everything? ;0

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bsdfox:

hehe

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bsdfox:

siXy: my backend is a p2–450 right now.. that's why I'm trying to get a xen domU to build packages for it :P

[22:11:14]

siXy:

bsdfox: ah yeah i see that :)

[22:11:34]

siXy:

leaving it running overnight might be a less stressful solution however

[22:14:46]

mchou:

except when you wake up and find it barfed on something simple

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siXy:

yes true

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rinaldi_:

iv got tv working but how do i access music/videos stored on a backend on another computer in the network?

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iamlindoro:

NFS shares

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i3ooi3oo:

then a symlink

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i3ooi3oo:

or thats how i do it

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rinaldi_:

is that the simplest way?

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: ive got xvmc 'working' on my card now for mpeg2

[22:22:44]

clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: cpu usage isnt noticably less but i have lost color in my OSD which appears to be a common xvmc bug

[22:22:45]

iamlindoro:

clever[rev], Nice

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iamlindoro:

clever[rev], yeah, there's a fix for that I beleive

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iamlindoro:

rinaldi_, yes

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clever[rev]:

which only works with the 5/6 series cards

[22:23:10]

iamlindoro:

clever[rev], ah, ok

[22:23:14]

clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: i beleive i have a series 4 card

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rinaldi_:

k il give it a try

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siXy:

if cpu usage isn't noticeably less, i would say 'why bother'

[22:23:53]

clever[rev]:

siXy: i think it may be something like 50% to 35% maybe

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rhp:

clever[rev]: what card is that? I'm struggling with xvmc myself at the moment.

[22:24:41]

clever[rev]:

0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)

[22:24:47]

siXy:

yeah – i probably wouldn't bother for that, unless you are tyring to do other thigs with the box at the same time

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clever[rev]:

ive also got these cards on other frontends which dont realy need xvmc

[22:25:22]

clever[rev]:

d600lspci:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02)

[22:25:22]

clever[rev]:

d630lspci:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 135M (rev a1)

[22:25:59]

clever[rev]:

the only frontend that realy needs xvmc is the one with 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)

[22:26:10]

rhp:

Ok, I have an VIA EPIA with a CLE266 card in it that is giving problems.

[22:26:11]

clever[rev]:

which has 400mhz for the core cpu

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clever[rev]:

siXy: im running boinc on half my myth boxes and the more cpu i save from playback the more work it can do

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JoeyJoeJo:

can I customise myth's uPnP so I can group my music by artist, then by album?

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iamlindoro:

JoeyJoeJo, I don't think so. Myth's uPNP stuff is still very young

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JoeyJoeJo:

that's what I figured

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J-e-f-f-A:

JoeyJoeJo: I think it's just a basic directory browser at the moment...

[22:45:14]

JoeyJoeJo:

I wonder what improvements they'll make to it in .21

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iamlindoro:

JoeyJoeJo, In SVN it's mostly the same :)

[22:47:49]

iamlindoro:

Most of the improvements are going towards just being operational right now, it appears

[22:47:51]

iamlindoro:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.21

[22:49:00]

iamlindoro:

And you can follow most of the uPNP development by paying attention to http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/log/trunk/mythtv/programs/mythbackend

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JoeyJoeJo:

cool, thanks for the info

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The_Rebel:

hey there

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The_Rebel:

how come mythtv doesn't scan my mame roms for proper game info?

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The_Rebel:

i just get the file names (it looks like poo + some times you can't tell whats what)

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clever[rev]:

i have a ton of snes roms and it doesnt seem to work right

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clever[rev]:

half of them dont even load in zsnes when i pick them and i have to manualy file->open in the emulator

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The_Rebel:

oh thats lame

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clever[rev]:

i suspect that might be a lack of quoting on the filenames

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iamlindoro:

Used to be you could import a huge rom file into the DB, and then the md5 hash matched, it would autofill the info

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iamlindoro:

But it's been forever since I played with that

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** clever[rev] checks the cli args **

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iamlindoro:

er, not a huge rom file, per se, but a file containing md5s of thousands of roms

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clever[rev]:

yeah

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The_Rebel:

hmm

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clever[rev]:

ive designed a similar system to ocr a crappy security image

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clever[rev]:

the website asks you to enter a 3digit number

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clever[rev]:

but it appears to be using a static set of images

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clever[rev]:

with a list of md5's and numbers i can read 20k of them

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clever[rev]:

but they appear to have over 20k images since i still dont get it very often

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clever[rev]:

mythtv 4922 27.4 4.4 66204 23108 ? SLl 18:58 0:30 zsnes /home/mythtv/roms/breathfi.smc

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clever[rev]:

and its just sitting with the file menu open

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clever[rev]:

run is disabled because nothing is loaded

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iamlindoro:

http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/20 . . . /041296.html

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iamlindoro:

take a look at that to get an idea of what to search for to import the romdb

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clever[rev]:

wait a sec

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clever[rev]:

ls: /home/mythtv/roms/breathfi.smc: No such file or directory

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iamlindoro:

which may or may not still work, it's been an age

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clever[rev]:

thats probly half my problem

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clever[rev]:

where are they now...

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clever[rev]:

/media/mainlv/roms/breathfi.smc

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clever[rev]:

cleared and rescaning

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clever[rev]:

mythtv 4955 1.3 3.8 50208 19884 ? Sl 19:05 0:00 zsnes /media/mainlv/roms/breathfi.smc

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clever[rev]:

better

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clever[rev]:

that was probly my main problem

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J-e-f-f-A:

justinh: I think "nomachine" put a timeout in their client... I can't get the M$ NX client to work for more than a minute or so now after disconnecting the first time (that was up for hours)

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The_Rebel:

i can't find that sql data in my source

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iamlindoro:

The_Rebel, I don't understand what you are saying

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The_Rebel:

that romdb sql file..

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iamlindoro:

You download it

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The_Rebel:

from where?

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iamlindoro:

There's a link on the mythgame wiki page

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iamlindoro:

Under "Rom descriptions"

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The_Rebel:

okay. thanks

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iamlindoro:

np

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clever[rev]:

mysql -u mythtv -h media -pPASSWORD mythconverg < romdb-20051116–02.sql

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clever[rev]:

after extracting the romdb-20051116–02.tgz i found near mythgame source

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xand:

yay, finally I have mythtv working on my tv!

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xand:

only took some soldering to my video card >.<

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clever[rev]:

ouch

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clever[rev]:

ive managed to get 2 seperate cards to do tvout without any psysical changes

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clever[rev]:

but the ati was a pita

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** xand wishes he could afford an LCD tv with hdmi input **

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xand:

then i could hook it up to the dvi port :|

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clever[rev]:

ive seen a box which has an AVR and bearly anything else

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xand:

AVR?

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clever[rev]:

which can put out a valid vga signal

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clever[rev]:

to test monitors

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clever[rev]:

a microcontroler

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clever[rev]:

basicaly ram+rom+cpu in a single chip

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xand:

oh

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clever[rev]:

with bearly any other chips/components he was able to get a single color vga signal out to test monitors

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clever[rev]:

a simple 3 way switch lets you direct the signal towards any of the 3 color lines

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xand:

oh dear something broke

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clever[rev]:

vga is surprisingly simple

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clever[rev]:

h/v sync pulses

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clever[rev]:

r/g/b color lines

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clever[rev]:

and a black reference line

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clever[rev]:

http://www.embedds.com/simple-pic-vga-tester/

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rushfan:

Hey, mythtv suddenly froze when wathing LiveTV, and now when I try to watch it I get errors like '2007-12–28 18:28:50.714 NVP::OpenFile(): Error, file not found: /video/1044_20071228182844.mpg'

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iamlindoro:

you still have disk space?

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iamlindoro:

df -h

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clever[rev]:

:O

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clever[rev]:

the names in mythgame are more useable now

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iamlindoro:

;)

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clever[rev]:

a few are missing though

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iamlindoro:

Meh, you can't win every time

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clever[rev]:

2007-12–28 19:32:00.577 MythGame:GAMEHANDLER: NO ROMDB FOUND for /media/mainlv/roms/Ff5.smc

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clever[rev]:

and many others

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iamlindoro:

ff5? Final Fantasy?

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iamlindoro:

Is it a fansub-ish type thing?

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iamlindoro:

If so, would have an altered CRC

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** clever[rev] loads it **

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sdlnxgk:

can't seem to connect to the MySQL database what am I doing wrong?

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: checksum failed in zsnes

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: im guessing the file is damaged

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iamlindoro:

That would do it ;)

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clever[rev]:

but it is final fantasy V

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clever[rev]:

but its sorting right under fatal fury 2

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iamlindoro:

Which, as far as I know, never came out in english..., probably was some hacked rom for english

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clever[rev]:

could easily get them mixed up

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clever[rev]:

i have a small number of roms i downloaded

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clever[rev]:

and a massive chunk from the 'empty' drive we got a few months ago

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clever[rev]:

241M in total now

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clever[rev]:

find|wc -l

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clever[rev]:

164

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: one game ive played in the emulator

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clever[rev]:

i got stuck in a corner of a room

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clever[rev]:

and it was imposible to walk out

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clever[rev]:

acted like i was stuck between 4 walls

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iamlindoro:

Heh.

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clever[rev]:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_V# . . . ion_attempts

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clever[rev]:

a few english versions that didnt realy make it out and a patch

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iamlindoro:

guess you could buy the GBA version

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clever[rev]:

dont have a gba

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iamlindoro:

Sounds better anyway

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clever[rev]:

ive got 2 snes's and an old plain gb(grey scale screen)

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro you used irda ports much?

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iamlindoro:

clever[rev], Nope, not at all, actually

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clever[rev]:

ive used them once bwteen a pair of laptops

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clever[rev]:

but thats about it

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clever[rev]:

trying to see what type of ir port i have to see if i may be able to convert it to lirc

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iamlindoro:

Hear murmurs in here from time to time about it, but I'm the last person to ask about it... have heard that for the most part they're incompatible

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clever[rev]:

i think the 'consumer' irda ports can be controled for lirc use

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clever[rev]:

might be because they include raw access to the ir hardware for writing your own 'protocol' handlers

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iamlindoro:

Dunno

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clever[rev]:

but i cant even get the irda port to work as an irda port under linux right now:P

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anenigma:

any aussies in here? does channel 10 just have the one HD channel which is mainly identical to regular digital, or should I scan for a new one? and has the 10 guide moved somehow? I can't access it

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iamlindoro:

anenigma, There are a number of Australian users here, but may not be around this early... I know that there is a good discussion forum for your XML grabber... is it Shepherd? That might be the palce to look

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anenigma:

yeah i use shepherd, didn't know they had forums though, thanks :D

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anenigma:

and also, what aussie isn't up watching the cricket right now!

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iamlindoro:

Try this, perhaps? http://www.interlink.com.au/mailman/listinfo/shepherd

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iamlindoro:

erm, shame there's no way to search it thoguh

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iamlindoro:

anenigma, http://svn.whuffy.com/index.fcgi/ticket/72

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iamlindoro:

Fixed 12/15

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iamlindoro:

May or may not be relevant, dunno your TV system :)

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JohnQ:

Anyone know any good ways of turning on the mythtv via a remote?

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iamlindoro:

The Tv, or mythfrontend?

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iamlindoro:

Just script it and use irexec

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JohnQ:

the machine itself... which runs the frontend and backend

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iamlindoro:

Ahhh

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iamlindoro:

you need particular hardware that supports that

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JohnQ:

I suspected I would...

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JohnQ:

Any idea what sort of hardware that would be?

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iamlindoro:

I have only ever heard of hacked-together solutions that involve running a few lines from your IR receiver to the power pins on your motherboard

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iamlindoro:

And none in particular to link to

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JohnQ:

hmm

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iamlindoro:

anyway, I'm going home

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iamlindoro:

bye for now

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