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| [00:16:36] | justinh: | 'recorded' is only home to the filenames of recorded files, strangely enough :P |
| [00:17:36] | bagpuss_thecat: | true |
| [00:17:53] | bagpuss_thecat: | I guess that, or something similar, may change with the advent of storage groups |
| [00:18:01] | cesman: | lwizard1: http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Kworld_ATSC_110 |
| [00:18:16] | justinh: | bagpuss_thecat: I dunno. haven't looked at the database much on my dev box yet |
| [00:18:26] | bagpuss_thecat: | no worries :-) |
| [00:18:32] | ** bagpuss_thecat has what he needs ** | |
| [00:18:33] | justinh: | it won't be rocket science to work it out though ;) |
| [00:19:05] | ** justinh points to the mythtv_find_orphans.pl or whatever script in /contrib ** | |
| [00:19:08] | lwizard1: | cesman, did that |
| [00:19:27] | justinh: | and now for something completely different. i.e. bedtime |
| [00:19:34] | bagpuss_thecat: | justinh: genius :-) |
| [00:19:37] | bagpuss_thecat: | ta muchly |
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| [00:20:33] | bagpuss_thecat: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Myth.find_orphans.pl |
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| [02:05:14] | psofa: | janneg, ping |
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| [02:21:33] | Lunar_Lamp_: | I have a few movies that I have recorded, and they all worked fine etc, but now I want to transcode them to shrink the file size. What is the best way to do this retrospectively? |
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| [02:24:05] | ananke: | hmm, do any of you have a urc-8810/8811 [one for all] remote? i'm trying to figure out what should i set it to, to get the most buttons |
| [02:25:24] | justinh: | I reprogrammed my OFA-6 with a JP1 cable, problem solved |
| [02:26:01] | ananke: | that's what i was hoping to avoid – purchasing or making a jp1 cable |
| [02:26:27] | justinh: | I couldn't find a code which had enough buttons |
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| [02:26:40] | ananke: | yeah, that's what i'm finding now |
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| [02:27:59] | levander: | If I am using a PVR 500, aren't I supposed to change the video decoder somewhere? I'm not getting Live TV, and I'm getting a message in mythbackend.log saying that it's using the default RTJPEG decoder. |
| [02:28:05] | justinh: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/One_For_All_URC-6131 might be a good place to start |
| [02:28:21] | justinh: | levander: so you set the card as the wrong type in mythtv-setup |
| [02:28:36] | justinh: | the default is "MUHHHH, stupid software encoder (V4L)" |
| [02:28:58] | levander: | justinh: Yeah, that's what I used. Let me go back and look for something else. |
| [02:29:00] | justinh: | change it to "MPEG2 encoder (PVR-X50)" or whatever it says these days |
| [02:29:17] | justinh: | stop mythbackend |
| [02:29:22] | justinh: | then run mythtv-setup |
| [02:29:48] | justinh: | not sure changing the encoder type will just work. you might have to delete the tuner(s) and add it (or them) again |
| [02:30:17] | ananke: | justinh, thank you, that's one page i haven't bumped into after hours of googling. too bad it talks about using VCR device [i currently have VCR section used for a real VCR] |
| [02:31:02] | justinh: | ananke: but you can map any device to any button group on OFA remotes AFAIK |
| [02:32:05] | ananke: | justinh : ohh, i didn't realize that. i thought it actually matters, and there were overlapping numbers |
| [02:32:14] | CCFL_Man: | can dvb-asi work with mythtv? |
| [02:32:43] | justinh: | ananke: don't think so |
| [02:33:36] | justinh: | CCFL_Man: probably not, if there are no linux drivers for dvb-asi devices you're stuck |
| [02:33:54] | levander: | justinh: Thanks, it worked just changing the encoder type worked. Didn't have to delete anything. |
| [02:34:57] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: you know what it's used for, right? |
| [02:35:21] | justinh: | ananke: I didn't realise OFA remotes with so many buttons can be bought. I've been looking at getting myself a non-menu driven (i.e. stupid) remote that will control up to 6 devices – but one with enough buttons |
| [02:35:52] | justinh: | CCFL_Man: no, but I suspect it's not something you have much right to be looking at |
| [02:36:50] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: it's used for transmission headend applications |
| [02:37:03] | justinh: | I thought as much |
| [02:37:14] | justinh: | so wth does that have to do with mythtv? |
| [02:38:03] | CCFL_Man: | i want to use commercial satellite receivers that output dvb-asi to connect to mythtv |
| [02:38:58] | justinh: | from a 60 second session on google I'll bet your chances of that are slim to none |
| [02:39:55] | CCFL_Man: | that would be the right way to do mythtv |
| [02:40:27] | justinh: | that may well be your opinion, but I doubt it'd be within the reach of most users |
| [02:41:04] | CCFL_Man: | it's the future of c-band |
| [02:41:14] | justinh: | and besides, there needs to be support for dvb-asi cards in linux first |
| [02:41:36] | CCFL_Man: | there are some supported |
| [02:41:45] | GreyFoxx: | hahah funny, just as I'm readying a patch to allow video streaming to the xbox360 someone puts a ticket into track asking how to do it, and I'm gonna close it since trac isn't a support forumn :) |
| [02:42:12] | justinh: | so if they're supported in linux, and they use the v4l-dvb API, chances are they might work |
| [02:42:30] | justinh: | then again you might have some patching to do |
| [02:42:46] | justinh: | GreyFoxx: heh. it's that time of year |
| [02:43:40] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: whats your source input you use with mythtv? |
| [02:44:16] | GreyFoxx: | I've now watched 6 hours of videos on the xbox via the myth upnp server with no apparent problems. Yay |
| [02:44:38] | justinh: | CCFL_Man: DVB-T and next year probably dvb-s |
| [02:44:59] | CCFL_Man: | ahh, you are in a dvb-t zone |
| [02:45:29] | justinh: | yeah but with our local plans to put more channels on dvb-t I'm seriously considering going to DVB-S when more channels swap to FTA |
| [02:46:30] | CCFL_Man: | i'd recommend deutsche welle tv on dvb-s |
| [02:46:49] | justinh: | CCFL_Man: from what I've found out about dvb-asi it's only more or less just a transponder's worth of stuff anyway |
| [02:47:15] | justinh: | dvb-s2 is really the future of DVB from satellites |
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| [02:49:01] | justinh: | I really can't see what possible advantage using DVB-ASI over a regular dvb-s card would give you |
| [02:50:48] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: digicipher 2 |
| [02:51:08] | justinh: | and that would be legal how? |
| [02:51:46] | CCFL_Man: | by getting a dcII subscription directly from the channel i want or a provider |
| [02:52:32] | justinh: | and I suppose there aren't any digicypher2 CAMs available yet |
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| [02:54:01] | CCFL_Man: | it's not even part of the dvb standard, it's it's own standard |
| [02:54:21] | GreyFoxx: | but very very close to dvb standard |
| [02:54:25] | justinh: | the minute UK providers start using encryption that isn't accessible using a commonly available CAM is the time I stop watching TV. easy as that |
| [02:55:21] | justinh: | I might have Sky TV, but they won't let me use it with mythtv without first going through a set top box, so guess what? I don't have it |
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| [02:55:28] | justinh: | same for my cable |
| [02:55:43] | justinh: | not even allowed to connect anything to the cable that isn't from the cable company ffs |
| [02:56:33] | justinh: | and if the providers have decided to lock everything down nice & tight I know exactly who you can blame. Those nice people who seed torrents |
| [02:56:46] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: thats why you get satellite receivers that are designed for headend applications |
| [02:56:57] | CCFL_Man: | if you can get them cheap |
| [02:56:59] | justinh: | yeah but how much do they cost?! |
| [02:57:10] | CCFL_Man: | lots, unfortunately |
| [02:57:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | justinh: Yeah, all that's already locked down in the US... :-( |
| [02:57:30] | justinh: | see I like watching TV but I can't imagine I'd ever want to pay through the nose for it |
| [02:57:45] | justinh: | it isn't a birthright, and if it's taken away I might get a little upset but it's ONLY TV |
| [02:58:15] | CCFL_Man: | main thing is to create your own headend |
| [02:58:50] | justinh: | if you start needing fancy gear like that just vote with your wallet & hope enough other people do too |
| [02:59:25] | justinh: | if people weren't so frickin stupid as to buy into these monopolies & keep maintaining them, we wouldn't be having this conversation |
| [02:59:34] | CCFL_Man: | thats what c-banders do |
| [02:59:45] | CCFL_Man: | here in the us |
| [03:01:04] | CCFL_Man: | have a receiver that can do one or a few channels, like a receiver than can output the discovery channels you want, or the history channel, etc, output all via asi into mythtv backend |
| [03:01:17] | justinh: | and I know it's never going to be any different because Joe Schmoe just wants to be able to get a magic box to let him watch his movies & sports or whatever. He doesn't care _how_ he does it, so long as it happens |
| [03:01:23] | CCFL_Man: | you can use as many frontends as you want |
| [03:01:41] | justinh: | up to the limit of what the 'headend' can provide, yeah |
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| [03:02:39] | justinh: | it's expensive, and if you're talking about spreading the cost via some kind of co-operative of users, think again. those companies won't take kindly to it |
| [03:02:44] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: if you do your own headend, a few satellite dishes, DCII and fta receivers with asi outputs into mythtv, each output could be distributed to everyone |
| [03:03:13] | justinh: | ask yourself – how much of all that 'lovely' content is _really_ worth having? |
| [03:03:19] | CCFL_Man: | no, i mean your own personal headend, no one else involved |
| [03:03:24] | justinh: | honestly! |
| [03:03:43] | CCFL_Man: | all of the content on the channels i watch |
| [03:03:53] | SoB: | anyone know how I can _surely_ redo my channel lineup? I've got this channel that I cannot record because it's encrypted, it's not in my SD lineup, I tried deleting it from mythtv-setup channel editor...and yet its_still_there :-| |
| [03:04:03] | justinh: | when I had the full cable channel lineup I sat down one day & reckoned exactly how much I was recording out of more than 200 channels. Mythbusters |
| [03:04:16] | CCFL_Man: | deutsche welle tv and radio, discovery channel, science channel, hd theater, and history channel |
| [03:04:45] | justinh: | my HDD spends most of its life 90% full of FTA content I never have time to watch anyway, and I'm perfectly happy. but then you guys don't have the BBC :P |
| [03:05:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | SoB: Use mythweb to make the channel invisible. (ie un-check the 'visible' box) |
| [03:05:19] | SoB: | I'll give it a shot |
| [03:05:33] | justinh: | there's next to nothing worth watching on PayTV IMHO |
| [03:05:42] | iamlindoro: | Looked recently at setting up some sort of satellite system... but my condo patio (the only place I could set a dish) faces southwest... and I'm in California... no birds to look at :( |
| [03:05:54] | SoB: | I deleted it using mythweb before...hopefull this will work |
| [03:06:14] | justinh: | but then again you guys don't even get HBO shows on other networks AFAIK |
| [03:06:26] | SoB: | oh wow, there's more in there that shouldn't be there |
| [03:06:27] | SoB: | what a mess |
| [03:06:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | SoB: If you didn't remove it from your channel listings source, then they'll keep coming back. But you can hide them via the channel editor in mythweb. |
| [03:07:14] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: the main thing here is to subscribe to the channels only you want with getting the direct satellite feeds and inputting them to mythtv |
| [03:07:33] | SoB: | J-e-f-f-A: that's the thing, it's removed from all my lineups on schedulesdirect |
| [03:07:33] | justinh: | CCFL_Man: that's going to be tricky |
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| [03:07:49] | SoB: | in fact, there's a lot of channels here that are crossed off |
| [03:07:50] | justinh: | and I hate to think how much the likes of hotels pay for their piped TV |
| [03:08:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | SoB: Humm... Maybe the've got a bug. <looking at my channel lineup now...> |
| [03:08:16] | SoB: | heh |
| [03:08:19] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: c-band providers in the US |
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| [03:08:53] | justinh: | and is anybody going to take kindly to the intended end use of all that? |
| [03:09:10] | justinh: | I think I would take issue if it was my content |
| [03:09:22] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: only nerds like myself, but it will be a true iptv solution one can grow with |
| [03:10:10] | SoB: | In fact, recently I rearranged where my capture cards are, so I had to delete them and recreate them, which I thought would redo the lineup |
| [03:10:58] | justinh: | CCFL_Man: looking here: http://www.dektec.com/Downloads/Drivers.asp seems there are drivers for linux which'll put the TS over IP. now that maybe the easiest way to make it work |
| [03:11:23] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: yeah, thats where i was looking |
| [03:11:41] | SoB: | The only other thing that really bothers me is if I run mythtv-setup forwarded (from one machine) through ssh it screws up my colors, but if I do it from the other myth machine it doesn't screw up the colors |
| [03:12:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | SoB: Well, mine looks fine, but I think I set it up to hide my un-subscribed channels anyways... |
| [03:12:30] | SoB: | yah.. |
| [03:14:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | SoB: It would be more convienent if they had all the dish lineups setup... Instead of just Dish Network, how about "Dish Network Top 180"... that way I don't have to hide 100s of channels I don't subscribe to... |
| [03:14:12] | justinh: | CCFL_Man: so you'd be dealing with Scientific Atlanta receivers, or suchlike. your wallet is gonna hurt |
| [03:14:50] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: yeah, sci atl and motorola |
| [03:15:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | xris: ooh, I like the 'Database' options in mythweb now... nice... ;-) |
| [03:16:02] | SoB: | hmm |
| [03:16:05] | justinh: | CCFL_Man: well, turn dvb-asi into ip streams & just plonk em into mythbackend – assuming they'll 'just work' |
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| [03:16:12] | SoB: | for cable things are organized by tier |
| [03:16:18] | justinh: | talk about ambitious though |
| [03:16:23] | SoB: | there's categories other than just numerical |
| [03:16:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | SoB: Yeah, that's a pain (IMHO) too... |
| [03:16:47] | SoB: | holding shift? |
| [03:16:48] | SoB: | ;) |
| [03:17:01] | SoB: | I hear you, though |
| [03:17:23] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: one channel per asi input on mythtv, this way i can use as many frontends i want and they can access each input, there is nothing to tune or change the channel, so i can use as many backends i want |
| [03:17:55] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: thats the issue too, it'll be a work in progress, definately not plug and play |
| [03:18:08] | J-e-f-f-A: | SoB: Well, the way I attempted to go through them was to pull up the guide on my Sat, and un-checked what I wasn't subscribed to... But searching for channels was a real pain... |
| [03:19:22] | justinh: | CCFL_Man: so what's a theoretical price for a sat receiver with dvb-asi output? |
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| [03:19:39] | SoB: | at least you only have to do it once, generally |
| [03:19:43] | CCFL_Man: | fr'justinh: used or new? :P |
| [03:20:15] | justinh: | CCFL_Man: _working_ |
| [03:20:50] | CCFL_Man: | well, definately $300 and up i'd imagine, quite a bit |
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| [03:26:24] | iamlindoro: | Power needs for even a small selection of channels sounds painfully expensive |
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| [03:28:00] | CCFL_Man: | not that expensive |
| [03:32:20] | justinh: | hahaha surprise surprise NewsCorp own DirectTV |
| [03:32:31] | justinh: | well, mostly |
| [03:32:46] | justinh: | and who owns most of NewsCorp? Murdoch |
| [03:33:01] | mchou: | justinh: you just figured that out?? |
| [03:33:18] | justinh: | mchou: I never had cause to even think about it before |
| [03:33:39] | justinh: | he owns most of the media outlets in Europe so why not |
| [03:34:38] | mchou: | haha, what gets me is why Europeans don't complain about media's "liberal bias" |
| [03:35:01] | justinh: | we'd complain if it was all left/right wing too |
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| [03:35:20] | justinh: | or just not care, like the vast majority of people in the UK |
| [03:35:45] | mchou: | every single time the press here has the facts, dorks on the right complain of media's "liberal bias" |
| [03:35:53] | justinh: | it's dangerous to let people come to conclusions themselves, dontcha know? |
| [03:36:09] | mchou: | it's the precursor to Godwin's law |
| [03:36:27] | justinh: | I find it ever more difficult to believe anything, fact or not |
| [03:36:53] | mchou: | "liberal bias" then "nazi fascists" gets invoked |
| [03:37:44] | Lunar_Lamp_: | <mchou> haha, what gets me is why Europeans don't complain about media's "liberal bias" <== because in the UK we have The Daily Mail ;-) |
| [03:38:01] | mchou: | In any case, count yourself lucky there's nothing like faux news over there...... |
| [03:38:18] | justinh: | I watched a repeat of The Daily Show the other night. there was some pundit guy interviewing a fella whose dad had been killed in one of the Twin Towers coming down. Jees! |
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| [03:39:11] | justinh: | he was basically shouting at the guy who'd lost his dad trying to make out that he somehow must hate his dad because he wasn't in favour of the Iraq war |
| [03:39:13] | mchou: | justinh: cant say I've seen that. But what's was "Jees" about it? |
| [03:39:31] | mchou: | lol |
| [03:39:44] | mchou: | demogogery at it's best |
| [03:40:03] | justinh: | can't remember the name of the tv pundit but it's scary to think people might listen to that asshole & take him seriously |
| [03:40:39] | mchou: | justinh: dude, you sure that wasnt a spoof? |
| [03:41:00] | mchou: | cause most of the time daily show is a spoof |
| [03:41:05] | justinh: | I know they do spoofs on the DS, but it's generally pretty obvious when they do |
| [03:41:08] | iamlindoro: | Sounds like Bill O'rielly.... or anyone else on Fox News, really |
| [03:41:21] | justinh: | iamlindoro: bingo. that was him |
| [03:41:31] | iamlindoro: | justinh, sounds like it was a clip that they then made fun of, rather than a bit? |
| [03:41:58] | justinh: | iamlindoro: yeah |
| [03:42:15] | justinh: | those 'bits' are funny but sometimes quite disturbing |
| [03:42:36] | mchou: | dude, you aint seen nothing |
| [03:42:37] | iamlindoro: | O'Rielly's a dumbass... His show is the one that Colbert Report is a spoof of |
| [03:42:39] | justinh: | you laugh and then think "whoah.. did they really just ...?" |
| [03:42:53] | mchou: | I aint kindding when I say Godwin's Law |
| [03:43:23] | justinh: | mchou: what can I say.. we live a relatively sheltered life here & seem to have a pretty unbiassed media by comparison |
| [03:43:40] | iamlindoro: | Hopefully we'll start shaping back up in 12 months or so |
| [03:43:45] | mchou: | justinh: heh, I wouldnt go that far |
| [03:44:04] | mchou: | you had Bush's lapdog |
| [03:44:15] | justinh: | we don't have anybody like O'Reilly on TV or radio here, not by a long shot |
| [03:44:28] | mchou: | that in itself was surprising enough |
| [03:44:59] | justinh: | I suspect our Mr Brown is going to prove much the same when 'you' go into Iran |
| [03:45:10] | mchou: | nono |
| [03:45:23] | mchou: | Mr Brown has a lil more sense |
| [03:45:36] | iamlindoro: | Ugh, TV is a mess here right now... With all my rules set to only record new shows I have.... 0 recordings in the next two weeks |
| [03:45:38] | mchou: | Tony had illusions of grandeur |
| [03:45:53] | mchou: | that was his problem |
| [03:45:58] | SoB: | alright, I went and deleted all the lineups from mythtv-setup and I think that might solve the problem...we'll see |
| [03:46:23] | justinh: | just heard on the radio tonight that Tony & Cherie B.Liar are now Roman Catholics |
| [03:46:41] | mchou: | justinh: Iran is a no go zone now the the CIA NIE report is out |
| [03:46:55] | mchou: | now that* |
| [03:47:18] | justinh: | I heard that, and also heard a report that Bush wasn't entirely convinced |
| [03:47:27] | mchou: | be hard pressed to convince anyone to take action on Iran now |
| [03:47:33] | mchou: | lol |
| [03:47:43] | mchou: | Bush has "faith" |
| [03:47:53] | mchou: | never let facts confuse him |
| [03:47:55] | justinh: | see, that's what really worries me :) |
| [03:48:27] | mchou: | or I should say Bush never allows himself to be confused by facts :) |
| [03:50:23] | justinh: | probably true |
| [03:50:27] | mchou: | Trust me, bush is a lame duck |
| [03:51:25] | justinh: | well, it's more or less a cert he won't be in for another term :P |
| [03:51:34] | mchou: | the only reason he hasnt completely failed utterly so far is not enough democrats got elected to the senate to achieve a 2/3 majority |
| [03:51:49] | mchou: | in other words, veto-proof congress |
| [03:52:17] | justinh: | you have more faith in democracy than I do, I'll say that as my closing note :) |
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| [03:53:29] | justinh: | now I really hope I can get off to sleep. busy day ahead, and then some |
| [03:53:33] | justinh: | g'night |
| [03:58:05] | levander: | Any idea what could cause pink, white, and blue vertical stripes instead of television on the screen? |
| [03:58:25] | levander: | I just ran mythfilldatabase, don't think I did anything else since last watching TV. |
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| [03:59:05] | mchou: | levander: you must watch a lot of TV |
| [03:59:21] | nettow0822: | hey guys.... |
| [03:59:41] | nettow0822: | i updated my linuxtv drivers... |
| [04:00:20] | nettow0822: | I'm trying to get a dvico fusion 5 express tuner card to work |
| [04:00:56] | nettow0822: | I already have a dvico hdtv5 rt gold working |
| [04:01:32] | nettow0822: | I can get either to work but not both |
| [04:01:53] | nettow0822: | I'm using mythtv |
| [04:02:08] | nettow0822: | any ideas? |
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| [04:03:07] | levander: | mchou: Why you say that? |
| [04:03:52] | levander: | Apparently, I restarted mythtv, and television is back. But, it's like I only got one channel, some Spanish channel. mythfilldatabase must have screwed up my channel lineup somehow. |
| [04:04:26] | purserj: | I don't suppose there is any way to get myth to rescan for channels from the command line |
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| [04:09:40] | iamlindoro: | nettow0822: both are dvb devices? |
| [04:10:29] | iamlindoro: | or, rather, probably ATSC devices, but come up as /dev/dvb devices is what I mean |
| [04:10:57] | iamlindoro: | My educated guess is that they are coming up in random order and so you need udev rules to affix them to devnodes |
| [04:11:54] | nettow0822: | iamlindoro yes both are dvb one is pci and the other is pcie |
| [04:12:17] | iamlindoro: | look in the wiki for udev rules, that's probably your problem |
| [04:12:35] | iamlindoro: | so that you can predict which dvb device # they get assigned when they come up |
| [04:13:17] | nettow0822: | where should I look? |
| [04:13:24] | iamlindoro: | mythtv wiki |
| [04:13:38] | iamlindoro: | It's a pretty decent tutorial |
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| [04:15:49] | iamlindoro: | Here are my udev rules for my two DVB devices... so while my DVB devices come up in random order as adapters 0 and 1, my HD 5500 card is always linked to adapter3, and my Kworld card is always linked to adapter4. |
| [04:15:51] | iamlindoro: | http://www.pastebin.ca/829435 |
| [04:16:38] | iamlindoro: | Then I went into mythtv-setup and set up the cards not as DVB 0 and 1, but 3 and 4, because I *knew* which card was which no matter what |
| [04:17:18] | iamlindoro: | Basically the udev rules allow you to take identifying information on each card and say "Whichever card has xxx attribute, symlink to adapter3," etc |
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| [04:27:25] | kavorka^: | anyone running a dvico dual digital 4 tuner card? |
| [04:28:13] | iamlindoro: | kavorka^: probably better just to ask your question rather than relying on anyone to actually have your card |
| [04:28:23] | iamlindoro: | Since often one is the same as the next |
| [04:29:20] | iamlindoro: | Also be sure to read the Mythtv wiki page on your card, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/DViCO_Fu . . . al_Digital_4 |
| [04:31:52] | kavorka^: | iamlindoro: thanks....have followed that guide but im only getting one adapater appearing under /dev/dvb |
| [04:32:22] | kavorka^: | im not sure why the other one isnt appearing....doesnt this card have two identical usb tuners? |
| [04:33:06] | iamlindoro: | I'm sure they probably are identical... can you pastebin results of ls -al /dev/dvb* |
| [04:33:08] | iamlindoro: | and dmesg |
| [04:33:57] | kavorka^: | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 120 Dec 22 21:55 adapter0 |
| [04:34:32] | iamlindoro: | kavorka^: make sure ot paste to www.pastebin.ca rather than into channel |
| [04:34:42] | kavorka^: | ahh ok...let me check it out..brb |
| [04:34:55] | iamlindoro: | Am I reading right that you only have adapter0 in /dev/dvb? No net0, dvr0, or frontend0? |
| [04:34:56] | nettow0822: | i'm in the USA ... my dvico is different |
| [04:35:17] | iamlindoro: | nettow0822: what are you talking about? |
| [04:35:46] | nettow0822: | one is pci & none is pcie |
| [04:35:56] | iamlindoro: | nettow0822: so? |
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| [04:36:24] | iamlindoro: | was talking to kavorka^ re"identical |
| [04:36:28] | iamlindoro: | er re:identical card |
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| [04:36:49] | kavorka^: | http://www.pastebin.ca/829444 |
| [04:37:15] | iamlindoro: | kavorka^: defintely unusual, looks like even the first card isn't working... can you pastbin dmesg for me |
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| [04:37:28] | kavorka^: | http://www.pastebin.ca/829446 |
| [04:37:33] | kavorka^: | thats my dmesg |
| [04:37:49] | kavorka^: | iamlindoro: the first tuner is working |
| [04:37:50] | nettow0822: | http://pastebin.ca/829447 |
| [04:37:57] | nettow0822: | http://pastebin.ca/829447 |
| [04:38:07] | nettow0822: | http://pastebin.ca/829447 |
| [04:38:35] | iamlindoro: | nettow0822: What are you doing? I am not asking you to paste anything... just read the udev rules article in the wiki, set up udev rules for your two cards, and you will be fine |
| [04:39:11] | iamlindoro: | kavorka^: oh, I'm a dummy, can you ls -al /dev/dvb/adapter0* and pastebin that please |
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| [04:40:17] | kavorka^: | http://pastebin.ca/829451 |
| [04:41:00] | nettow0822: | iamlindoro...how do I do that? I am a dummy....I'not programmer |
| [04:41:42] | nettow0822: | tell me how |
| [04:41:49] | iamlindoro: | nettow0822: the instructions are IN THE WIKI... if you have questions about them you can come back, but if you google "mythtv udev rules" then the first page is the wiki page |
| [04:42:07] | iamlindoro: | kavorka^: stand by while I look into a few things |
| [04:42:23] | kavorka^: | iamlindoro: take your time...thanks |
| [04:44:14] | nettow0822: | ty I just started today....i'M A GREAT PROGRAMMER! |
| [04:45:06] | nettow0822: | WHEN YOU NEED HELP.....i HOPE i'M AROUND TO HELP |
| [04:45:40] | iamlindoro: | ooooooooookay... whatever all that means... won't trouble you with any more help then |
| [04:46:08] | iamlindoro: | hey kavorka^, did you build the module with the patch, or was this merely plug and play? |
| [04:46:48] | iamlindoro: | I'm wondering whether the second adapter is enabled with the patch mentioned on the wiki page, am looking into it now |
| [04:46:59] | kavorka^: | no i downloaded the module and firmware from chris pascoe's site and compiled it |
| [04:48:18] | kavorka^: | http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/Linux-DVB/DVICO/ |
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| [04:48:46] | kavorka^: | the prepatched source bundle at 2007/11/12: |
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| [04:48:51] | nettow0822: | it is bad when someone asked for help, and you act like that! |
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| [04:49:19] | nettow0822: | did you know everything when you first started? |
| [04:49:28] | nettow0822: | know you didin't |
| [04:49:51] | iamlindoro: | nettow0822: Uh, dude, you are not reading very well, I have pointed you at a page with the instructions you need three times |
| [04:50:11] | iamlindoro: | kavorka^: could you pastebin lsmod for me? sorry to make you pastebin so much |
| [04:50:48] | kavorka^: | iamlindoro: not a problem..brb |
| [04:51:32] | kavorka^: | http://pastebin.ca/829460 |
| [04:51:34] | iamlindoro: | and one more, ls /dev |
| [04:51:43] | iamlindoro: | -al |
| [04:52:38] | kavorka^: | http://pastebin.ca/829463 |
| [04:54:20] | iamlindoro: | well, all the modules definitely there... my current guess is that the firmware is somehow incompatible as mentioned at the top here: |
| [04:54:29] | iamlindoro: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DViCO_F . . . ote_tutorial |
| [04:55:20] | iamlindoro: | 'cause I note all the xc3028-tuner.c messages at the end of your dmesg... wonder whether it would be worth trying a different firmware version |
| [04:56:27] | kavorka^: | i think so too....ill try an older version of the firmware that i have lying around....thanks |
| [04:57:01] | iamlindoro: | yeah, let me know how it goes... sorry not to be more equivocal with the help, haven't used the card before |
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| [04:58:50] | kavorka^: | brb...ill give it a shot |
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| [04:59:39] | nettow0822: | iamlindoro...I'm trying to use a module for 2.6.24 |
| [05:00:28] | nettow0822: | i have a device for that re3v |
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| [05:15:57] | nettow0822: | iamlindoro ....mrufky from linuxtv has asked me to help him with this trial so I am doing what I can |
| [05:18:33] | nettow0822: | if you can't help so be it |
| [05:19:15] | nettow0822: | we are working on the pcie setup |
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| [06:52:11] | kmyth: | ivtv says that the encoder revision on my pvr500 is below the recommended one. 20050032 vs 2060039(recommended) |
| [06:52:16] | kmyth: | how do i upgrade this? |
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| [06:59:00] | Tanthrix: | kmyth: Can you pastebin the exact message? |
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| [07:05:22] | jeffery: | mzb_d800, ping |
| [07:06:27] | mzb: | pong |
| [07:06:38] | jeffery: | hey mate how are you |
| [07:06:53] | mzb: | good thx, and you? |
| [07:07:34] | jeffery: | great |
| [07:07:39] | mzb: | (woman has approved expense on 500GB drive + new PCI tuner ... must be doing something right;)) |
| [07:07:56] | mzb: | nice if they arrived tomorrow ... but I doubt it |
| [07:07:58] | jeffery: | I have a small problem with my when I run archiving |
| [07:08:01] | jeffery: | nice |
| [07:08:12] | mzb: | sup? |
| [07:08:34] | jeffery: | It comes up with : ERROR: Encoding profile (NONE) not found |
| [07:08:47] | jeffery: | Its an already transcoded show |
| [07:09:31] | mzb: | yeah ... can't remember what I did to fix that |
| [07:09:42] | mzb: | do you have your own profile file? |
| [07:10:02] | jeffery: | what do you mean "own profile |
| [07:10:32] | mzb: | ~/.mythtv/MythArchive/ffmpeg_dvd_pal.xml |
| [07:10:38] | jeffery: | 'checks |
| [07:10:52] | mzb: | not your "own profile" ... you own "profile file" |
| [07:11:02] | mzb: | try copying one in there for sanity |
| [07:11:04] | jeffery: | nope |
| [07:11:37] | jeffery: | try copying from where |
| [07:12:05] | mzb: | you'll find a copy somewhere |
| [07:12:10] | mzb: | (on your system) |
| [07:12:21] | jeffery: | k |
| [07:13:37] | mzb: | try looking for mythburn.py |
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| [07:13:38] | jeffery: | mzb, ok I got that file in place... do I need to modify it |
| [07:13:44] | mzb: | no |
| [07:13:47] | mzb: | probably not |
| [07:13:51] | jeffery: | ok |
| [07:14:09] | mzb: | in mythburn.py there is a default encoding profile variable |
| [07:14:30] | mzb: | mine is set to: defaultEncodingProfile = "SP" |
| [07:15:05] | mzb: | what version are you running? |
| [07:15:13] | jeffery: | I manually selected that in the mythburning scrren but it still fails |
| [07:15:33] | jeffery: | packaged version 0.20.2–9 |
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| [07:16:34] | mzb: | I do remember seeing that error ... I just can't recall what I did |
| [07:16:57] | mzb: | these are untranscoded recordings I assume? |
| [07:17:02] | mzb: | (dvb-t?) |
| [07:17:10] | jeffery: | hmm mythfrontend doesn't start after that file is in place |
| [07:17:19] | jeffery: | no they are transcoded recordings |
| [07:17:26] | jeffery: | yes dvb-t |
| [07:17:27] | mzb: | must be something wrong there |
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| [07:18:01] | mzb: | start with -v all |
| [07:18:08] | mzb: | I've been summoned |
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| [07:57:24] | c4t3l: | quick question to the gurus: having your video card on the the same interupt is not the best idea huh? |
| [08:01:32] | rpm_: | should mythtranscode be able to handle high-def recordings from a pchdtv card? It complains unless I specify the --mpeg2 option, if I specify that, it complains about deadlock. google/yahoo aren't turning up any answers. thanks in advance |
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| [08:22:17] | Anduin: | justinh: How can you stand to theme listareas? |
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| [09:53:30] | MilhousePunkRock: | Hello everyone! |
| [09:54:09] | MilhousePunkRock: | I am planning to do a fresh install of Mythbuntu, I wonder how to partition the harddrive the smartest way? Large seperate /var? And what filesystem to use? |
| [09:56:02] | rpm_: | MilhousePunkRock: I suggest you use XFS for your recordings filesystem |
| [09:56:11] | clever: | could just put everything on 1 massive fs |
| [09:56:19] | clever: | simplest |
| [09:56:38] | rpm_: | LVM is handy if you anticipate adding more disks later |
| [09:56:49] | clever: | yeah |
| [09:57:06] | clever: | i discovered 20gig of data on my new disk for ubuntu |
| [09:57:20] | clever: | so i pushed it to the end of the disk and stuck ubuntu in the empty space |
| [09:57:35] | clever: | and later moved the ntfs out and turned the 20gig partition into the start of lvm |
| [09:57:47] | clever: | then added 2 more whole disks to the lvm |
| [09:57:59] | clever: | /media/mainlv is under lvm |
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| [09:59:56] | MilhousePunkRock: | I have one 80 GB disk in the box that will be exclusively used for MythTV, (primary backend and frontend)... So I just make one large XFS partition (plus swap, of course)? |
| [10:01:12] | Tanthrix: | Best to make a separate recordings partition, I'd say. |
| [10:01:31] | MilhousePunkRock: | Tanthrix: That would make a seperate /var? |
| [10:01:36] | Tanthrix: | Keeps things organized, and makes it easy to reinstall. |
| [10:01:42] | clever: | my recording partition is ext3 |
| [10:02:17] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: Well, you could do that, or you could just make a big ext3 + swap for your file system, then a separate XFS partition like /mythstore |
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| [10:02:56] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: For your OS / apps / etc, I mean. |
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| [10:03:11] | MilhousePunkRock: | Tanthrix: If you say "big ext3", how much space do you refer too? I should probably have most space for the recordings, right? |
| [10:04:08] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: That's a good question. Obviously you want enough in the ext3 to fit all your programs, OS, and any other misc things with room to spare. And everything else for myth. |
| [10:04:29] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: Not sure how big that should be though. I'd hate to tell you incorrectly and have it bite you in the future. |
| [10:04:31] | clever: | ive got a few frontends just bearly running |
| [10:04:34] | clever: | with 2gig for / |
| [10:04:38] | clever: | 3gig should be plenty |
| [10:04:53] | MilhousePunkRock: | Tanthrix: I'll check the mythbuntu wiki if they say something about minimum space for the system |
| [10:04:54] | clever: | and another gig for swap at most |
| [10:05:20] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: Personally, I'm using 13GB right now in / which includes everything but my /home directory |
| [10:05:31] | clever: | my netbooting nfs frontends are all storing there root in my recording partitions |
| [10:05:46] | clever: | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| [10:05:46] | clever: | /dev/hda1 18G 17G 189M 99% / |
| [10:05:50] | clever: | laptop |
| [10:06:05] | rhp: | Hi all. I recently upgraded my setup (0.19 on FC3) by installing mythbuntu (ubuntu 7.10) on both systems (running both backend and frontend). Everything seems to be in working order, except for skipping forward/backward. This seems to be very slow, which makes it hardly usable. Searching the web suggests running optimize_mythtdb.pl, but that is already happening as a daily cronjob... Any pointers? |
| [10:06:19] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: I'd bet that 20GB should cover you, then make the remaining 54 for myth. Then again, I don't have KDE and all that other crap installed, so that's probably saving me a lot of space. |
| [10:06:46] | clever: | i have gnome on most of my fe's that are 2gig |
| [10:06:58] | clever: | but i had to thin the packages out some |
| [10:07:22] | Tanthrix: | For a MythTV system, fluxbox is ideal. |
| [10:07:36] | MilhousePunkRock: | I _think_ mythbuntu only pulls in the bare minimum of xfce as opposed to xubuntu... |
| [10:07:59] | clever: | Tanthrix: when i started my thin frontends i didnt have any window manager or the gnome/kde/friends |
| [10:08:08] | clever: | it was just X and the bare lib's to run myth |
| [10:08:20] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: I'd say do 20gb then 54 for myth, and just be mindful of space as you start installing things. Good to check if they have a listed footprint for it though. |
| [10:08:23] | MilhousePunkRock: | How relevant is the speed of the IDE controller (which I assume to be rather slow as it's an old machine) for the filesystem choice? |
| [10:08:57] | clever: | ive now got gnome on my nfsroot for the netbooting frontends |
| [10:09:00] | clever: | and firefox+java |
| [10:09:04] | clever: | 2gig |
| [10:09:17] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: Might give you more incentive to use XFS for your myth recordings, since it is more efficient with large files. I still stick with Ext3 for my OS and etc. though. |
| [10:09:44] | clever: | xfs cant be shrunk though |
| [10:09:48] | MilhousePunkRock: | Recommended System Requirements: |
| [10:09:48] | MilhousePunkRock: | 10 GB disk space (Frontend Role) |
| [10:09:48] | MilhousePunkRock: | 80 GB+ disk space (Backend Role) |
| [10:09:55] | clever: | which is a painfull problem for lvm |
| [10:11:10] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: Those numbers for the backend include recordings. There's no chance myth and everything else on the system would equal that much. I suspect you'll be fine with 20, given that 10 is good enough for a frontend. |
| [10:11:26] | MilhousePunkRock: | Ok, what about 15 GB / 5 GB /home, both ext3, 1 GB swap and the rest for the recordings in XFS? |
| [10:11:58] | clever: | sounds good |
| [10:12:06] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: That's cutting it a bit closer. Like I said, I'm using 13gb on my system, so I wouldn't want 15 to be my max. |
| [10:12:22] | MilhousePunkRock: | For all my *buntu systems, thinking of the partitioning scheme was always the hardest part... ;) |
| [10:12:44] | Tanthrix: | I know the feeling. I'd usually get to that screen then have to sit and think about it for a while. |
| [10:12:50] | clever: | i normaly just left it for 1 ext3 and swap |
| [10:13:33] | MilhousePunkRock: | How many primary partitions are possible again? Was it 3 or 5? |
| [10:13:38] | clever: | 4 max |
| [10:13:54] | clever: | one of which can be extended which contains logical |
| [10:13:59] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: The more I've used linux though, I've noticed that separating everything really doesn't serve much of a purpose. Whenever I reinstall I carefully select only what I want, so keeping some permanent /home partition isn't that useful and just lets cruft build up. |
| [10:14:40] | clever: | i just tar up the whole damn fs when reinstalling |
| [10:14:47] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: Which is why I don't bother making a separate home directory. Too many times I ended up with a bunch of free space in one partition, and not enough in another as well. They're just arbitrary divisions. |
| [10:15:21] | clever: | lvm lets you rebalance the space but lvm root is tricky |
| [10:15:24] | MilhousePunkRock: | Tanthrix: So rather 15 for / only? |
| [10:15:34] | MilhousePunkRock: | with no /home? |
| [10:15:53] | Tanthrix: | MilhousePunkRock: I'm sticking with my original suggestion. 20 for / including home ext3, and the rest for myth XFS |
| [10:16:20] | Tanthrix: | (To say no /home is a bit of a misnomer, since one will be created. It just will be stored in the / partition, not its own.) |
| [10:17:11] | MilhousePunkRock: | Ok, let's go then... |
| [10:17:15] | clever: | could tweak a few conf files and use /house/ :P |
| [10:17:31] | clever: | or *shudder* /documents&settings/ |
| [10:18:11] | Tanthrix: | Vista finally moved it to /Users. An improvement, I'd say. |
| [10:18:16] | clever: | lol |
| [10:19:38] | clever: | yet linux has been /home/ since the start atleast?:P |
| [10:19:48] | clever: | theyve had it short for ages |
| [10:20:56] | orkid: | /my overly long directory name with Caps and s p a c e s/Username :P |
| [10:21:08] | clever: | lol |
| [10:21:20] | clever: | windows is case INsensitive so the caps dont mater as much |
| [10:21:39] | clever: | try and guess why i would put firefox+java onto a thin netboot frontend? |
| [10:25:33] | clever: | ive got a ntfs here thats taken a few rounds thru the toasted and is starting to get toasted:P |
| [10:25:46] | clever: | large number of files are undeletable |
| [10:26:11] | clever: | and winblows chkdsk wont fix it |
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| [10:27:06] | clever: | du says 1.4gig used |
| [10:27:09] | clever: | df says 8gig |
| [10:30:50] | MilhousePunkRock: | OK, now that I am at the partitioning screen, which partition should go where? |
| [10:37:32] | MilhousePunkRock: | The yellow chinch jack for TV-Out is S-Video? Or component? |
| [10:40:07] | MilhousePunkRock: | Composite it is... How am I supposed to know which PAL system we have here? |
| [10:47:05] | purserj: | MilhousePunkRock: which nation? |
| [10:47:14] | MilhousePunkRock: | purserj: Germany... |
| [10:47:50] | purserj: | you guys use PAL B/G |
| [10:47:58] | purserj: | same as us in Australia |
| [10:48:19] | MilhousePunkRock: | purserj: Thanks... |
| [10:48:58] | MilhousePunkRock: | Too bad I already chose PAL-D cause the D sounded much like the international license plate for germany ;) |
| [10:49:05] | purserj: | heh |
| [10:50:48] | MilhousePunkRock: | I am pretty sure I can change that again after the installation. And the MythTV box is still a few days away from being moved to the living room and being connected to the TV anyway |
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| [11:12:52] | mzb_d800: | is anyone using a winfast DTV1000T ? |
| [11:13:32] | mzb_d800: | I'm interested to know what module(s) it uses so I can work out if I'll have problems putting the card in a Xen-based server |
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| [11:38:52] | rooaus: | purserj: What is the prob is with mythbrowser? |
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| [11:45:13] | purserj: | rooaus: not building on gentoo |
| [11:47:56] | mchou: | lol |
| [11:48:15] | mchou: | thats more a problem with the user of said distro |
| [11:48:32] | purserj: | as opposed say to mytharchive screwing up ubuntu? |
| [11:48:58] | mchou: | lol |
| [11:49:29] | mchou: | since when can a proggie screw up a distro? |
| [11:49:49] | purserj: | sorry, that should read screwing up ON ubuntu |
| [11:50:17] | mchou: | if that happens, you know the distro doesnt have a proper implementation of security and acls |
| [11:50:55] | mchou: | which isnt really too far from the truth as far as ubuntu is concerned |
| [11:53:45] | mchou: | purserj: the question you ought to be asking yourself is how come no one else, out of the 100s of myth boxes deployed, seems to be having problems with mythbrowser. |
| [11:54:38] | purserj: | mchou: the question I'm asking right now is why the hell is it failing and why the hell does it seems to have a dependency on apache in it's ebuild |
| [11:54:41] | mike3_: | millions and millions you mean |
| [11:56:54] | mchou: | mike3_: I doubt it's millions |
| [11:57:19] | mchou: | maybe thousands even, but certainly not millions |
| [11:57:35] | mchou: | I doubt even tivo has millions |
| [11:57:48] | mchou: | of boxes deployed, that is |
| [11:58:21] | mike3_: | man i'm tierd..... |
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| [12:02:25] | rooaus: | purserj: I reckon a Gentoo user should be able to deal with it? ;) |
| [12:03:24] | rooaus: | ^^^ Dude, I *used* to be a Gentoo user. |
| [12:03:36] | mchou: | rooaus: lol. You know what a typical gentoo user's nightmare is? |
| [12:03:48] | mchou: | Installing X and Apache :) |
| [12:04:20] | mchou: | for a lil proggie like kwrite :) |
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| [12:06:21] | purserj: | rooaus: /win 6 |
| [12:06:24] | purserj: | gah |
| [12:06:41] | rooaus: | mchou: No... needing to emerge gcc. Bloody trampoline code...! |
| [12:07:01] | mchou: | rooaus: ok, maybe you got a point there |
| [12:07:32] | mchou: | rooaus: but I assume most gentoo users get past that stage :) |
| [12:08:02] | mchou: | rooaus: how else do they do 'make world?' |
| [12:08:06] | mchou: | :) |
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| [12:10:23] | ** clever inflates his lvm array by 90gig ** | |
| [12:10:44] | rooaus: | mchou: Problem is I am from the "If it aint broke, don't 'fix it' brigade". Catches up with you on Gentoo... :( Mind you I have never created a new "world" order with any other distro... :D |
| [12:11:15] | mchou: | rooaus: seriously, what distro you using now? |
| [12:11:31] | clever: | ubuntu 6.06/7.10/redhat9 |
| [12:12:00] | ** rooaus wonders why clever is using LVM. Surely you are using storage groups, aren't you? ** | |
| [12:12:14] | clever: | storage groups make myth an idiot:P |
| [12:12:17] | mchou: | clever: you use gnome for desktop then? |
| [12:12:17] | clever: | 1 group has 5mb free |
| [12:12:22] | clever: | 1 has 5 gig free |
| [12:12:29] | clever: | which does it record to?:P |
| [12:12:36] | clever: | gnome/kde/cli |
| [12:12:41] | clever: | the 6.06 is kde |
| [12:12:48] | clever: | the 7.10's are gnome |
| [12:12:50] | clever: | the redhat9 is cli |
| [12:13:24] | rooaus: | clever: OS, a patch won't kill you! :D |
| [12:13:33] | mchou: | lol |
| [12:13:46] | clever: | im trying to get all my stuff out of the redhat9 so i can retire the old thing |
| [12:13:53] | clever: | but it has 200 days uptime! |
| [12:14:00] | clever: | 06:13:57 up 227 days, 7:51, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 |
| [12:14:06] | mchou: | bah, 200 days is nothing |
| [12:14:20] | clever: | that lasted thru atleast 1 power outage |
| [12:14:30] | mchou: | clever: what's so hard to migrate out of there? |
| [12:14:55] | clever: | lazyness:P |
| [12:15:07] | clever: | its just a bunch of php files and my chanserv |
| [12:15:41] | mchou: | clever: dude, where you the one using openSuse? |
| [12:15:50] | mchou: | werent* |
| [12:15:55] | clever: | never used any suse based distro's |
| [12:16:12] | mchou: | ok. confused you w/ someone else then |
| [12:16:51] | ** clever prods my system with a pvscan to get the total space ** | |
| [12:17:50] | ** rooaus likes debian. I just don't think anyone should wait 5 years for an update...! ** | |
| [12:18:15] | clever: | ubuntu has 4 releases a year |
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| [12:18:51] | mchou: | clever: but ubuntu still sucks |
| [12:18:52] | clever: | and 1 is marked as a long term release which will be supported longer then the others |
| [12:19:04] | mchou: | bug infested. |
| [12:19:14] | rooaus: | clever: But *I* can rush out releases as well, maybe even quicker than that. |
| [12:19:22] | clever: | lol |
| [12:19:32] | mchou: | kubuntu is eve a bigger pile of dung |
| [12:19:36] | mchou: | even* |
| [12:19:42] | clever: | i beleive once ubuntu releases a set as say 7.10 they dont change anything other then security patches |
| [12:19:55] | clever: | so you only get major changes if running the beta release |
| [12:19:55] | mchou: | some crap they pay lip service to |
| [12:20:11] | clever: | kubuntu is just ubuntu with a diff set of packages installed by default |
| [12:20:35] | mchou: | clever: haha!! |
| [12:20:37] | clever: | ive converted my 6.06 into a kubuntu just by installing kubuntu-desktop |
| [12:20:46] | mchou: | clever: that's exactly why it sucks |
| [12:20:49] | clever: | which drags in every kde package |
| [12:21:04] | mchou: | they don't understand the concept of testing |
| [12:21:16] | clever: | then whats the beta release for? |
| [12:21:20] | mchou: | lol |
| [12:21:44] | clever: | #ubuntu+1 is for the next release( aka beta) |
| [12:21:45] | mchou: | a succesful compilation does not make for a successful distro |
| [12:21:50] | clever: | lol |
| [12:22:15] | mchou: | clever: who is testing kubuntu? |
| [12:22:30] | clever: | users who upgrade to the beta release |
| [12:22:33] | otwin: | if ubuntu is one thing then it's 'succesful' |
| [12:22:33] | clever: | and report bugs |
| [12:22:45] | mchou: | it's crashes within the first 5 minutes, what's there to test? |
| [12:22:46] | justinh: | yeah but what price 'success' ? ;) |
| [12:23:05] | clever: | mchou: serial console and grab the kernel panic and submit away |
| [12:23:18] | mchou: | clever: lol |
| [12:23:24] | rooaus: | clever: Even if it is a pile of bug ridden POS! Like Tomcat on dapper, feisty... etc. |
| [12:23:33] | justinh: | Anduin: I can't but there's no choice. I'm not the MythTV UI's number one fan |
| [12:23:54] | mchou: | if a distro crashes within first 5 minutes from live CD I'm certainly not going to expend additional effort on it |
| [12:24:13] | rooaus: | justinh: How has the new boxen worked out? |
| [12:24:17] | mchou: | clever: especially since there are alternatives that work :) |
| [12:24:19] | justinh: | Anduin: I'm really looking forward to the mythui port. I just hope nobody wastes the opportunity ;) |
| [12:24:27] | clever: | mchou: ive only had livecd trouble with ubuntu on 2 systems |
| [12:24:31] | justinh: | rooaus: it hasn't burst into flames yet |
| [12:24:34] | clever: | mchou: one had only 64mb of ram |
| [12:24:42] | clever: | mchou: the other is blazing new and cant find the rootfs |
| [12:24:47] | justinh: | rooaus: and I don't remember where I put the epia :P |
| [12:25:12] | BULLE: | he, 64mb ram |
| [12:25:20] | clever: | yeah |
| [12:25:29] | rooaus: | justinh: I heard that vias burst into flames on the 3rd of the month... just as well you switched :D |
| [12:25:36] | justinh: | rooaus: deinterlacing isn't as good as it used to be. works smooth for ages then jumps a bit on Bob2x. kernel deint etc look shit |
| [12:25:37] | BULLE: | heck, its pretty silly, i remember when 64kb ram was pretty ok |
| [12:25:43] | clever: | BULLE: i booted the kernel with init=/bin/bash |
| [12:25:58] | clever: | BULLE: then from the bearly working shell i mounted the fat and made a swap file |
| [12:26:08] | justinh: | rooaus: I'm really looking forward to using greedy :D |
| [12:26:10] | BULLE: | clever: sounds a bit like a classical gentoo install =D |
| [12:26:13] | clever: | BULLE: then i exec /sbin/init and it resumed booting |
| [12:26:30] | justinh: | oops that made me sound like an Ubuntu fanboy! |
| [12:26:36] | clever: | ;p; |
| [12:26:41] | justinh: | Ubuntu Greedy Git |
| [12:26:43] | ** BULLE tags justinh as "ubuntu fanboy" ** | |
| [12:27:10] | ** justinh wonders when Pointless Porcupine is tabled for release ** | |
| [12:28:09] | mchou: | BULLE: no, I think clever is "ubuntu fanboy" |
| [12:28:16] | justinh: | see I use ubuntu but that doesn't mean I believe in it |
| [12:28:24] | BULLE: | justinh: same here |
| [12:28:28] | clever: | ive also got a lfs install on 2 computers |
| [12:28:35] | clever: | which is like gentoo with less automation |
| [12:28:57] | rooaus: | justinh: Greedy... I am thinking about working out how to transcode with with multi frame de-interlacers for cycle challenged CPUs. |
| [12:29:02] | clever: | one lfs system is my router for the whole house |
| [12:29:12] | clever: | the other is a random thin client for a laptop thats now toast |
| [12:29:22] | justinh: | rooaus: well, my box isn't cycle challenged, so no need for me |
| [12:29:55] | justinh: | clever: you're drawing 100W from the mains for something a $30 box which draws 5W can do? :-O |
| [12:30:06] | mchou: | justinh: bing!! |
| [12:30:11] | mchou: | bingo* |
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| [12:30:20] | clever: | justinh: the linksys router reboots randomly causing major problems |
| [12:30:27] | justinh: | this recycling of old hardware needs to stop guys |
| [12:30:31] | clever: | justinh: and its dhcp server has been dead for years |
| [12:30:36] | mchou: | justinh: I guess clever never heard of openwrt |
| [12:30:39] | mchou: | :) |
| [12:30:47] | justinh: | clever: so uhh.. just do what anybody else would do when a $30 box dies |
| [12:30:49] | clever: | mchou: and it has alot more ram:P |
| [12:31:14] | clever: | the dlink wifi router also reboots randomly if i open too many connections and has painfull portforward controls |
| [12:31:21] | mchou: | clever: and why would you need mor ram for a router? |
| [12:31:29] | mchou: | more* |
| [12:31:34] | clever: | mchou: every connection in the conntrack table takes up ram |
| [12:31:38] | clever: | use too much and it reboots |
| [12:31:45] | clever: | without warning |
| [12:31:52] | mchou: | my linksys with openwrt works just fine |
| [12:31:54] | clever: | then my dyn ip changes when it reconnects |
| [12:31:56] | justinh: | just shove everything over ssh |
| [12:32:07] | mchou: | plently of torrents too |
| [12:32:09] | clever: | with lfs i can actualy graph my connection count |
| [12:32:16] | justinh: | so what? |
| [12:32:17] | rooaus: | justinh: I know, that is why I wanted to know how it is going for you. Mind you, a AMD64 3000+ should not be considered cycled impaired. I am perpetuating the problem... from an ASIC engineer. humph! |
| [12:32:18] | clever: | over 2k connections on avg |
| [12:32:29] | clever: | and ive pushed it over 5k before without any trouble |
| [12:32:58] | clever: | also i cant custom config a dlink/linksys to work with pxelinux for netbooting |
| [12:33:04] | justinh: | I only ever have problems with my router when some idiot decides to ping-of-death my home IP |
| [12:33:19] | clever: | its dhcp controls are crappy compared to what i can do with dhcpd.conf |
| [12:33:37] | clever: | im not exactly shure what my router problem was realy |
| [12:33:46] | justinh: | operator error |
| [12:33:50] | clever: | but it sounds like it was running out of ram from too many connections |
| [12:33:53] | mchou: | bingo! |
| [12:34:04] | clever: | the lfs hasnt had a single problem like that |
| [12:34:21] | clever: | and when it does disconnect i have a log entry giving an exact reason |
| [12:34:25] | ** purserj sighs, never let it be know I won't admit to my own mistakes, turns out there was a conflict between a source install I did and thought I had wiped and the ebuild ** | |
| [12:34:32] | clever: | instead of everything jsut crashing without warning/reason |
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| [12:35:43] | justinh: | bah WinFF fails again |
| [12:35:51] | clever: | resize nearly done |
| [12:35:51] | justinh: | time to go back to the old standard |
| [12:35:57] | clever: | 1 point left |
| [12:36:05] | ** justinh throws a box of 750GB disks at clever ** | |
| [12:36:10] | clever: | ouch |
| [12:36:13] | clever: | thanks! |
| [12:36:13] | justinh: | oh damn. now they're useless |
| [12:36:17] | clever: | lol |
| [12:36:27] | clever: | im extending into a 160gig usb drive |
| [12:36:35] | justinh: | I just wasted 12 750GB disks to prove a point |
| [12:36:38] | clever: | currently using 90gig of it and the rest is ntfs |
| [12:36:49] | clever: | Total: 4 [265.98 GB] / in use: 4 [265.98 GB] / in no VG: 0 [0 ] |
| [12:37:17] | ** rooaus intercepts justin's pass! Makes off with 1.5 TB... ** | |
| [12:37:26] | clever: | lol |
| [12:37:28] | justinh: | never twice forgotten sucks? |
| [12:37:50] | clever: | rooaus: that was 8tb in the box:P |
| [12:38:16] | rooaus: | clever: Not greedy, I will share with others... |
| [12:38:24] | clever: | lol |
| [12:38:32] | clever: | send a tb my way:P |
| [12:38:36] | purserj: | hmm, now I appear to have a datacasting channe; |
| [12:38:38] | purserj: | channel |
| [12:38:54] | justinh: | I'm waiting til port multiplier aware SATA controllers become more prevalent |
| [12:39:16] | clever: | im just using a usb enclosure to get more drives in:P |
| [12:39:23] | clever: | and i dont have to shutdown to add them |
| [12:39:28] | justinh: | by the time that happens they might even be supported in the kernel as standard, you never know |
| [12:40:11] | justinh: | we make E-sata to 5 sata HDD multiplier boards at work. we just upped the rev so we have to er.. scrap off all the old (working) ones :P |
| [12:40:31] | clever: | lol |
| [12:40:46] | clever: | what kind of parts are needed to make them?:P |
| [12:41:05] | clever: | and if your making your own boards cant you just write your own kernel module:P |
| [12:41:07] | justinh: | tested with 5 disks going on 50MB chunks, random r/w cycles – it was getting about 110MB/sec |
| [12:41:20] | rooaus: | Being summonsed, need to sign off. Night all. |
| [12:41:24] | justinh: | they take an E-sata connector & take it out 5 ways :) |
| [12:41:27] | justinh: | rooaus: night |
| [12:41:49] | justinh: | clever: using a Silicon Image port multiplier, not a controller as such |
| [12:41:56] | clever: | ah |
| [12:42:00] | justinh: | they're basically a lot like an ethernet switch |
| [12:42:10] | clever: | is it like a phone spliter type connection? |
| [12:42:14] | justinh: | no |
| [12:42:34] | clever: | so you do need to capture and repeat the frames some? |
| [12:42:40] | justinh: | not really JBOD either since the system sees 5 disks |
| [12:43:13] | justinh: | just takes one sata port & takes it to 5 disks. looks like 5 disks to a port multiplier aware controller |
| [12:43:30] | clever: | how is the wiring actualy routed though? |
| [12:43:40] | justinh: | seperately |
| [12:43:52] | justinh: | esata in, 5 sata out |
| [12:44:01] | justinh: | in & out of the chip |
| [12:44:18] | clever: | ah so you have some chip in the middle to merge the 5 sets of lines into 1? |
| [12:44:19] | justinh: | chip has an external I2C EEPROM containing firmware |
| [12:44:25] | justinh: | no merging |
| [12:44:31] | justinh: | it's a PORT MULTIPLIER |
| [12:44:58] | justinh: | http://www.cooldrives.com/cosapomubrso.html |
| [12:45:04] | clever: | 1 motherboard port in and 5 hdd ports out? |
| [12:45:51] | justinh: | it's crazy cos there are still only a small handful of PM aware sata controllers |
| [12:46:22] | clever: | is the cable to the motherboard made to handle 5 at once(5 sets of comm lines)? |
| [12:46:26] | justinh: | I've yet to run anything sata at home. I'm still wary of it |
| [12:46:43] | justinh: | clever: ONE sata port to FIVE sata ports. FFS |
| [12:46:48] | clever: | lol |
| [12:47:00] | clever: | but how does 5 ports of data fit into 1:P |
| [12:47:27] | clever: | pata i know is meant to only have 2 adress slots on a ribbon and both drives share the bus |
| [12:47:29] | justinh: | /ignore clever |
| [12:47:42] | justinh: | before I have an anneurism |
| [12:47:45] | clever: | lol |
| [12:48:47] | clever: | does it just emulate 1 massive disk composed of the 5 seperate ones? |
| [12:48:52] | justinh: | port multipliers make use of an extension to the sata protocol |
| [12:49:12] | clever: | so when you talk to it you tell it which of the 5 ports you want to forward the frame to? |
| [12:49:15] | justinh: | it doesn't emulate anything |
| [12:49:41] | justinh: | I don't know exactly how it works. I don't need to know |
| [12:49:46] | clever: | lol:( |
| [12:49:48] | justinh: | stop asking fucking stupid questions |
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| [13:03:06] | blackest: | hi i have a bit of a permissions problem dev/video0 gets created as owned by root its usb so doesnt always exist on the system any idea's how i can make permissions persist on this device |
| [13:04:20] | cccp: | look at udev config |
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| [13:07:32] | ceee: | hey |
| [13:07:43] | ceee: | i'm having problems with dvd playback framerate |
| [13:08:15] | ceee: | my mthtv is running on ubuntu 7.10, the dvd drive doesn't have any problem with the disc and playback is fine in other video players |
| [13:09:01] | ceee: | also mythtv is set to 'internal' at util/setup > setup > media settings > dvd settings > play settings |
| [13:09:08] | ceee: | could someone help me fix this? |
| [13:10:32] | blackest: | i think sudo mknod /dev/video0 c 81 0 and then changing permissions on that might work |
| [13:11:31] | rhp: | Hi all. I recently upgraded my setup (0.19 on FC3) by installing mythbuntu (ubuntu 7.10) on both systems (running both backend and frontend). Everything seems to be in working order, except for skipping forward/backward. This seems to be very slow, which makes it hardly usable. Searching the web suggests running optimize_mythtdb.pl, but that is already happening as a daily cronjob... Any pointers? |
| [13:11:39] | ceee: | blackest: what does that do? |
| [13:12:37] | blackest: | sorry that was to something before you entered but it should create a perminant link to a video device I think that i can set permissions on persistantly |
| [13:12:44] | ceee: | okok |
| [13:13:57] | blackest: | i guess if linux didnt have permissions things would be as simple as windows and just as insecure ... |
| [13:17:48] | AndyCap: | blackest: possibly write an udev rule, and look over /etc/security/console.perms.d/* since that regulates what permissions get set on various devices when a user logs in. Fedora 8 has started to use ConsoleKit so that may also be a factor. Dunno how you configure that, maybe you'll find something on the wiki |
| [13:21:18] | blackest: | i think the mknod command will work its designed to make a device persist even it isn't present |
| [13:22:40] | AndyCap: | blackest: which if you're lucky enough that udev won't touch it, solves nothing with regards to permissions. |
| [13:24:05] | blackest: | you can chmod dev/video0 after using mknod i think |
| [13:24:20] | AndyCap: | blackest: sure you can. but it won't stay that way |
| [13:24:54] | blackest: | hmm thats not very useful then |
| [13:26:59] | AndyCap: | blackest: sorry, Got my windows confused so I assumed you were using fedora, if you're not using fedora or any other distro with udev and pam_console it could possibly work |
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| [13:35:54] | ceee: | okay i have a new problem |
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| [13:36:08] | ceee: | i successfully setup my pinnacle remote control |
| [13:36:27] | ceee: | when i run 'irw' in the terminal, i can see all the buttonpresses |
| [13:36:37] | ceee: | but in mythtv nothing happens for these events |
| [13:36:56] | ceee: | at the control centre i have the correct driver selected |
| [13:37:03] | ceee: | what did i miss? |
| [13:38:47] | blackest: | i've looked at what you said andycap and added KERNEL=="video*", MODE="0666" to one of the rules hopefully it might work |
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| [13:39:22] | S0ld13r: | Hello guyz! |
| [13:39:29] | blackest: | the configuration file which translates the key presses into events for mythtv maybe |
| [13:41:13] | ceee: | where do i find that? |
| [13:41:23] | S0ld13r: | need some help, I have setup mythtv works perfect but i have another computer downstairs on which I have installed mythfronend and tryed connecting to the beckend on 10.0.0.1 it is able to connect to my sql database but then gives me an error that it can not connect to beckend on 127.0.0.1 i have edited mysql.txt and set it on 10.0.0.1 but still it gives met he same error |
| [13:41:37] | ceee: | ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [13:41:56] | blackest: | sounds right |
| [13:42:06] | ceee: | it seems to be filled with good stuff |
| [13:42:24] | ceee: | although i don't know how to make sure if it's correct |
| [13:42:27] | blackest: | i played with lirc months ago and tend to forget things once i have done them |
| [13:42:38] | ceee: | aside from testing in mythtv and observing :) |
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| [13:43:08] | rhp: | S0ld13r: did you rerun mythtv-setup on the second host? |
| [13:43:09] | S0ld13r: | any ideas anyone please ? |
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| [13:43:22] | S0ld13r: | rhp: no |
| [13:43:40] | S0ld13r: | i only installed, mythtv and mythfrontend., and themes |
| [13:44:21] | S0ld13r: | do I need to ? |
| [13:44:28] | rhp: | try that, that enables you to specify the master backend |
| [13:44:47] | S0ld13r: | so i need to get mytht-setup installed |
| [13:44:57] | S0ld13r: | k |
| [13:45:00] | blackest: | i think thats the way ceee :) |
| [13:45:24] | ceee: | blackest: well.. it doesn't work and i'm stuck |
| [13:45:40] | ceee: | i can't find anything on the mythtv wiki or google |
| [13:46:31] | blackest: | http://lircconfig.commandir.com/ |
| [13:47:12] | blackest: | you might get sorted from there especially if its been done with your remote before |
| [13:47:31] | rhp: | S0ld13r: I think that in general it is recommended to have both backend and frontend installed. |
| [13:48:07] | blackest: | I did it in a couple of days ceee it drove me mental |
| [13:48:10] | ceee: | blackest: thanks |
| [13:49:50] | blackest: | I got totally stuck with transmitting thou i read the remotes signals i couldnt get my mythbox to transmit a signal recogniseable to my set top box |
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| [13:51:34] | blackest: | I did get mythtv controlled by a remote thou i've got a sky keyboard remote which i was going to see if i could make work but... |
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| [13:57:58] | ceee: | brb |
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| [13:59:31] | mchou: | anyone here a guru in apache? |
| [13:59:36] | S0ld13r: | rhp |
| [13:59:42] | mchou: | I'm stumped |
| [13:59:56] | blackest: | whats the problem ? |
| [14:00:08] | S0ld13r: | guyz question ? |
| [14:00:19] | S0ld13r: | can I watch LiveTv from remote fronend |
| [14:00:28] | mchou: | blackest: suppose I have all my files in /var/www/osCommerce....... |
| [14:01:01] | mchou: | blackest: and my DocumentRoot is /var/www |
| [14:01:12] | blackest: | soldier yes unless your using something like the haupauge mvp wotasit |
| [14:01:58] | mchou: | blackest: in orgeder to get to my commerce site I have to do something like http://servername/osCommerce |
| [14:02:11] | S0ld13r: | I dont think I am.. I have got everithing setup and now I can connect to beckend. but i can not watvh tv or any recorded videos |
| [14:02:20] | S0ld13r: | is there anything specific i need to enable |
| [14:02:27] | mchou: | blackest: how do I configure ot so it gets to the site by http://servername? |
| [14:02:39] | mchou: | order* |
| [14:02:58] | mchou: | it* |
| [14:03:26] | mchou: | blackest: you understand what I'm trying to get at? |
| [14:04:04] | blackest: | well i'm not an expert but i guess your problem is that your site is in a directory off the main directory if you see what i mean |
| [14:04:27] | mchou: | blackest: well, I'd like to keep it that way :) |
| [14:04:55] | mchou: | I dont want to pollute the osCommerce directory with other random files :) |
| [14:04:57] | blackest: | so the browser is looking for index.htm in the document root |
| [14:05:33] | clever: | i appear to still have the bitrate doubling bug that appeared in 14799 |
| [14:05:41] | mchou: | blackest: yeah, if I set Documentroot to /var/www/osCommerce, it doesnt work |
| [14:06:10] | blackest: | a crude method would be to put an index page there to point to the subdirectory |
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| [14:06:23] | S0ld13r: | mchou: http://www.instant-web-site-tools.com/html-redirect.html, create redicret page |
| [14:06:24] | mchou: | Document root for whatever reason wants to be in /var/www for things to work |
| [14:07:03] | S0ld13r: | <META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh" |
| [14:07:03] | S0ld13r: | CONTENT="5; URL=html-redirect.html"> |
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| [14:07:26] | mchou: | S0ld13r: not sure that solves my problem |
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| [14:07:46] | mchou: | I dont want osCommerce to show up in the URL at all |
| [14:07:56] | mchou: | a redirection doesnt solve that |
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| [14:08:43] | blackest: | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/urlmapping.html#documentroot |
| [14:09:00] | mchou: | I mean something like this ought to be simple but I'm stumped |
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| [14:10:41] | cccp: | change DocumentRoot in apache config? |
| [14:10:52] | cccp: | mv /var/www/osCommerce/* to /var/www? |
| [14:10:57] | mchou: | cccp: tried that, no joy |
| [14:11:10] | cccp: | you did restart apache? |
| [14:11:32] | mchou: | cccp: nono, dont want to move osCommerce subdirs to /var/www |
| [14:11:36] | cccp: | have a look if the /var/www/ shows up somewhere else in the config |
| [14:11:43] | mchou: | yup, restarted apache |
| [14:11:56] | cccp: | might be some weird Directory stancas |
| [14:12:07] | cccp: | idk, havent worked with a default apache config for a longer timer |
| [14:12:08] | mchou: | want to keep the osCommerce files separate |
| [14:12:09] | cccp: | s/r$// |
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| [14:15:38] | darkfrog: | Is there any way to specify a lower resolution for mythtv than the video resolution for watching tv and recordings? |
| [14:15:40] | mchou: | ahh, I think Documentroot is confused by an alias..... |
| [14:16:24] | clever: | i appear to have found 2 large bugs plaging my system |
| [14:16:41] | mchou: | clever: that's it? |
| [14:17:17] | clever: | 1st major bug |
| [14:17:21] | clever: | my seek tables are toast |
| [14:17:27] | cccp: | darkfrog: do you mean the menu by "mythtv"? i think i have seen something like that in the config |
| [14:17:33] | blackest: | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html |
| [14:17:40] | darkfrog: | cccp, yes |
| [14:17:41] | clever: | all 1h shows appear to be about 44mins when i hit i in the frontend |
| [14:17:45] | clever: | and seeking is messed up horidly |
| [14:18:01] | clever: | 1nd problem |
| [14:18:07] | clever: | when i load the recording list in mythweb |
| [14:18:10] | clever: | even with image loading OFF |
| [14:18:16] | clever: | it generates 200 preview images |
| [14:18:27] | clever: | and the backend is stuck eating 90% system cpu for days |
| [14:18:32] | clever: | Cpu(s): 33.9% us, 60.4% sy, 0.0% ni, 0.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 5.8% si |
| [14:18:57] | clever: | 3rd(minor) problem |
| [14:19:07] | clever: | the bitrate for my frame grabbed is doubled somewhere |
| [14:19:20] | clever: | i ask for 2200 and it records at 4400 and ioblocks |
| [14:20:20] | clever: | i have it set for 1100 but i beleive i should be getting 2200 |
| [14:20:35] | clever: | but my mysql query to calc that depends on the seektables which goes back tp problem 1:P |
| [14:20:35] | mchou: | gah! |
| [14:23:47] | mchou: | heh, I got it working |
| [14:23:53] | mchou: | stupid cache |
| [14:23:56] | clever: | bug 4240 is one of mine |
| [14:24:29] | mchou: | for a minute there I thought I was losing my mind |
| [14:26:04] | clever: | made a post |
| [14:26:09] | clever: | next bug:) |
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| [14:27:14] | justinh: | ticket closed. framegrabbers no longer supported |
| [14:27:18] | ** justinh stops dreaming ** | |
| [14:27:41] | mchou: | haha |
| [14:27:45] | clever: | lol |
| [14:27:51] | clever: | i didnt open it:P |
| [14:28:02] | clever: | and im just working arround it atm by setting half the bitrate i want |
| [14:28:14] | clever: | and it ALSO affects transcoding so those with hardware encoders will suffer:P |
| [14:28:25] | justinh: | wtf? mythbuntu has samba shares of stuff & cruft? huh? I don't remember setting them up! |
| [14:28:29] | justinh: | GRRR |
| [14:29:10] | justinh: | they're all secure, that's something I spose |
| [14:31:04] | justinh: | /var/lib/mythtv/videos :-\ |
| [14:31:22] | justinh: | workgroup = MSHOME |
| [14:31:33] | justinh: | FFS mythbuntu I didn't ask for that crap |
| [14:32:13] | clever: | Cpu(s): 49.1% us, 44.2% sy, 1.2% ni, 0.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 5.6% si |
| [14:32:24] | clever: | something is clearly messed up in the upnp code here |
| [14:33:15] | justinh: | sudo update-rc.d -f samba remove |
| [14:33:29] | clever: | password: |
| [14:34:14] | justinh: | c13v3r |
| [14:34:25] | ** clever goes to test on ssh:P ** | |
| [14:36:56] | clever: | ive narrowed down the system cpu usage problem some |
| [14:40:28] | mchou: | damn, just figured out why it's always freezing in this room |
| [14:40:31] | clever: | all i can do atm is crash it multiple times:) |
| [14:40:40] | clever: | mchou: computer was off?:P |
| [14:40:46] | mchou: | clever: nope |
| [14:40:54] | clever: | window wide open? |
| [14:40:58] | clever: | or windowS |
| [14:40:58] | mchou: | yup |
| [14:41:20] | mchou: | wasnt wide open but window wasnt sealed |
| [14:41:29] | clever: | i mean windows xp:P |
| [14:41:37] | clever: | close the dang windows! |
| [14:41:41] | mchou: | got all drafty |
| [14:42:02] | clever: | we just sealed a few of our basement windows |
| [14:42:09] | clever: | there the real old type |
| [14:42:24] | clever: | 4 panes sitting in a frame with some plastic edges |
| [14:42:30] | mchou: | I couldnt figure it out since this room always had the most computers and electronics |
| [14:42:41] | mchou: | used to be warm |
| [14:42:48] | mchou: | now it's freezing |
| [14:42:49] | clever: | with a suction cup you can probly lift the panes right out of the frame and 'break' in |
| [14:43:37] | blackest: | plastic window frames mchou |
| [14:43:50] | blackest: | they distort somewhat |
| [14:43:57] | mchou: | blackest: yeah |
| [14:44:15] | blackest: | specially when you run coax through em ;) |
| [14:44:20] | mchou: | lol |
| [14:44:36] | mchou: | run coax thru walls, not windows |
| [14:44:38] | clever: | theres a few coax lines run thru the wood frame of my basement windows |
| [14:44:48] | clever: | the walls are concete |
| [14:44:55] | clever: | driling thru the wood window frame is easyer |
| [14:45:01] | blackest: | i had a problem with my bedroom window when it rained major leaks |
| [14:45:02] | mchou: | you can drill thru concrete :) |
| [14:45:10] | clever: | yeah but its not as easy |
| [14:45:18] | justinh: | mchou: not with a drill made my Fisher Price |
| [14:45:25] | justinh: | s/my/by |
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| [14:45:38] | blackest: | mchou did you fix your server ? |
| [14:45:39] | mchou: | justinh: your daddy told ya dont get cheap tools |
| [14:45:49] | mchou: | blackest: it wasnt a server issue |
| [14:46:00] | mchou: | blackest: it was a browser cache issue |
| [14:46:12] | tcpsyn: | morning. |
| [14:46:17] | defaultro: | does anyone here saves your mpeg2 1080 recording on a dvd but with an HDDVD format? |
| [14:46:29] | mchou: | defaultro: please |
| [14:46:36] | defaultro: | what |
| [14:46:44] | mchou: | defaultro: you got too many toys |
| [14:46:49] | defaultro: | :) |
| [14:46:58] | mchou: | to be asking a question like that |
| [14:47:15] | mchou: | this time on a Sunday morning |
| [14:47:25] | defaultro: | just got so excited when I burned an iso to a dvd and it got detected as hddvd by my hddvd player |
| [14:47:43] | mchou: | lol |
| [14:49:05] | mchou: | my cpu core temp is at 16 DegC. That's an idication of how cold this room is |
| [14:49:14] | mchou: | indication* |
| [14:51:00] | mchou: | if this comp didnt have 8 HDDs in it I can probably get away with passive cooling |
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| [14:52:06] | justinh: | that's a good 40W or so :) |
| [14:52:07] | mchou: | time to buy one of those terabyte drives and consolidate |
| [14:52:09] | darkfrog: | How do I increase the font size in Fedora? I have a 56" HD tv and the fonts are tiny... |
| [14:53:23] | justinh: | the same thing we do every night Pinky |
| [14:55:32] | justinh: | darkfrog: the size of which fonts? desktop fonts? fonts in mythtv? que? |
| [14:55:40] | blackest: | thanks mchou due to you i now have DirectoryIndex /zm/index.php set in htpd.conf on one of my servers |
| [14:56:07] | blackest: | means i don't have to specify the path to the index now :) |
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| [14:57:12] | blackest: | its just a webcam looking at my car :) there was a cctv camera doing that but it got nicked |
| [14:57:16] | mchou: | blackest: there you go! |
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| [14:57:45] | justinh: | is anybody stupid enough to steal a cctv camera? |
| [14:57:55] | blackest: | yes twice |
| [14:58:05] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [14:58:09] | mchou: | that's classic |
| [14:58:16] | blackest: | last time was on friday at 4:48 am |
| [14:58:24] | mchou: | so much for your "security" |
| [14:58:24] | justinh: | get another camera to cover the first camera, then have another camera covering the 2nd one |
| [14:58:43] | justinh: | pretty soon you'll be just another cctv operator |
| [14:58:46] | blackest: | how they got up to it i dont know unless they had a ladder |
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| [14:59:02] | mchou: | blackest: inside job |
| [14:59:05] | blackest: | the first one i figured it was low |
| [14:59:05] | MilhousePunkRock: | Hello everyone! |
| [14:59:06] | justinh: | rope? chain ? |
| [14:59:35] | blackest: | the 2nd one was way up and they got it |
| [14:59:39] | justinh: | I've heard of people keeping their cctv DVR in the livingroom under the TV. great idea |
| [14:59:51] | mchou: | blackest: which slum you live in? |
| [15:00:01] | mchou: | blackest: you pals with Ali G? |
| [15:00:05] | MilhousePunkRock: | My backend complains that it can not creat .test in the partition I created for recordings (XFS, if that matters) |
| [15:00:15] | blackest: | i just run zoneminder on my main mythtv backend box |
| [15:01:05] | blackest: | just uses a spare tv card with motion detection set on it |
| [15:01:08] | justinh: | I just run a Dedicated Micros D4. pulls 20W from the wall |
| [15:01:22] | mchou: | MilhousePunkRock: that can be safely ignore if you know what you're doing |
| [15:01:27] | justinh: | rather that than godknowsWatt ;) |
| [15:01:43] | blackest: | true saves heating the room thou |
| [15:01:54] | MilhousePunkRock: | mchou: I don't know if I know what I am doing though... |
| [15:02:28] | justinh: | blackest: expensive to have webcams though |
| [15:02:37] | mchou: | MilhousePunkRock: just watch live TV. if you can see it, then myth works right :) |
| [15:02:59] | MilhousePunkRock: | mchou: I have yet to set up my TV card |
| [15:03:04] | blackest: | yep expensive to replace cctv cameras too |
| [15:03:08] | mchou: | MilhousePunkRock: lol |
| [15:03:24] | justinh: | blackest: are many webcams much use for cctv? good low light etc? |
| [15:03:33] | blackest: | not really |
| [15:03:53] | justinh: | a networked megapixel cctv camera or 2 would be nice |
| [15:04:11] | blackest: | main issue is that its bareable for low light but then total whiteout in daylight |
| [15:04:13] | justinh: | then you stand a chance of getting images that are actually _useful_ if you ever need em |
| [15:04:35] | blackest: | well the point is just to keep the ... away from my car |
| [15:04:42] | MilhousePunkRock: | On top of that, the frontend complains it can not connect to the backend... It's a primary backend/front end combination, but I chose the real IP because I will probably set up front ends on my other machines later |
| [15:04:45] | justinh: | I work for a company who make networked cctv cameras & DVRs |
| [15:05:26] | justinh: | blackest: not move to a house with its own driveway & garage? |
| [15:05:36] | justinh: | easier said than done though. I know ;) |
| [15:05:42] | blackest: | true enough |
| [15:05:48] | ananke: | i'm trying to figure out what's involved in setting up a second mythtv box. i don't use mythtv for recording tv as much as a frontend for my existing movies i ripped, photos, etc. can i safely point two frontends at the same mysql database? |
| [15:06:27] | blackest: | the webcams a stop gap till i figure out how to make the camera secure |
| [15:06:41] | justinh: | frankly I'm amazed anybody puts up with mythtv for being just a dumb media centre |
| [15:06:51] | justinh: | without the TV it's not all that |
| [15:07:00] | justinh: | blackest: do what the pros do |
| [15:07:00] | ananke: | justinh : cost |
| [15:07:17] | justinh: | ananke: other open source stuff is available |
| [15:07:23] | justinh: | there's XboxFileBrowser |
| [15:07:32] | justinh: | FreevoFileBrowser |
| [15:07:46] | blackest: | what do the pro's do besides pay a guy to watch the camera |
| [15:07:50] | justinh: | blackest: put a cage around the camera |
| [15:07:56] | ananke: | justinh : not to mention the added features of mythtv, such as mythweather, mythgames, etc |
| [15:07:59] | justinh: | they don't cost much |
| [15:08:15] | blackest: | hmm b&q do em ? |
| [15:08:19] | justinh: | mythweather hasn't worked in a stable release for about a year |
| [15:08:32] | justinh: | blackest: doubt it. your friendly local security emporium should though |
| [15:09:02] | justinh: | blackest: for what you pay at B&Q for CCTV gear you could buy the real stuff instead |
| [15:09:18] | blackest: | well maplins not too bad for cctv |
| [15:09:27] | justinh: | roflmao |
| [15:09:28] | ananke: | justinh : not to mention that i may be putting my pvr card back into one of those boxes, to use the tv functionality |
| [15:10:01] | blackest: | ok give me a link to a cheap night vision camera and a cage to put it in |
| [15:10:08] | justinh: | maplins, home of the spotty teenage shop assistant with the part-broken voice |
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| [15:10:37] | justinh: | "hello, can I have some video coax please?".. "certainly. do you want PCI express or AGP?" |
| [15:10:41] | blackest: | yep but they do have cameras for about 40 quid with reasonable night vision |
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| [15:11:10] | justinh: | if you only care about night vision, go for high res mono cameras |
| [15:11:23] | justinh: | even in daylight mono is generally better res than colour |
| [15:11:44] | justinh: | at the end of the day detail matters more than anything else |
| [15:12:07] | justinh: | when a perp's face is 100 pixels high, every pixel counts ;) |
| [15:12:21] | blackest: | true |
| [15:12:32] | blackest: | anything you would recommend |
| [15:12:43] | justinh: | blackest: just some random link I found: http://www.2seetv.co.uk/acatalog/Housing_and_Enclosures.html |
| [15:12:59] | justinh: | I'd recommend Gardiner Security too but not sure if they sell to the public |
| [15:14:48] | justinh: | blackest: I've got a couple of cameras from these guys – £40 & they're pretty good. http://www.sfpsecurity.co.uk |
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| [15:28:47] | blackest: | http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo= . . . m12#overview |
| [15:28:53] | blackest: | what about that one |
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| [15:31:01] | blackest: | or this http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ITAG=SPEC . . . y=23m12#spec |
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| [15:32:14] | justinh: | 380 lines? not too hot :( |
| [15:32:22] | justinh: | they're ok for the money I spose |
| [15:33:25] | justinh: | prolly better off with a decent webcam with separate illumination – at least they're progressive – 640x480 is better than PAL |
| [15:33:53] | justinh: | anyway need to scoot to buy stuff for the car |
| [15:34:49] | blackest: | ok thanks for the advice |
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| [15:48:02] | DGnome: | Hi! Is there a way to repair dvb recordings that have gone wrong? This recording will not pass mythcommflag and if I try to fast forward, it starts blurting out audio buffer owerflow messages. |
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| [15:56:10] | justinh: | can't really repair a dvb recording as such |
| [15:56:17] | justinh: | re-record it :D |
| [15:57:38] | justinh: | hmmm slightly concerned at the oil level in my car when I checked it. not even at the minimum on the dipstick. then again I can't ever remember checking it (duh) since over 12 months ago |
| [15:57:45] | justinh: | such a woman when it comes to car stuff |
| [16:02:46] | ananke: | last week i helped a coworker change oil in his car. i swear, he had less than 1 quart of oil left [it took 3.5 to be at the right level] |
| [16:03:24] | ananke: | i'm surprised the car still ran |
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| [16:08:51] | justinh: | less than 10,000 miles since the last oil change so not much harm done I hope |
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| [16:15:17] | Dibblah: | justinh: Just over 30,000,000 revolutions of the engine, though. |
| [16:17:31] | Dibblah: | Which is the equivalent of sliding each piston 2,400km against another metal surface. |
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| [16:18:00] | Dibblah: | Yup. Sounds like no reason to worry to me :) |
| [16:18:46] | Dibblah: | (And yes, the figures are very much guestimates and thus probably very wrong. |
| [16:19:22] | Computer_Czar: | |
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| [16:36:18] | justinh: | Dibblah: well, whatever. if it blows up it blows up. nothing I can do about it now |
| [16:37:24] | justinh: | had a look underneath & there's no sign of a leak. no ominous blue smoke & fuel consumption is about the same as it ever was |
| [16:40:47] | DGnome: | justinh: the recording has been "damaged" otherwise than a result of faulty signal |
| [16:41:12] | justinh: | DGnome: maybe try putting it through ffmpeg then |
| [16:41:14] | DGnome: | justinh: everything is there but something much like the AVI index is broken |
| [16:41:28] | iamlindoro: | DGnome, may be easiest just to try an ffmpeg transcode on it... ffmpeg does a pretty good job of corecting erros given the chance... and I'd use -async 1 when you do |
| [16:41:28] | DGnome: | remuxing may repair it |
| [16:41:28] | justinh: | ffmpeg -i $filename -vcodec copy -acodec copy $outputfilename |
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| [16:42:29] | DGnome: | And to make things more clear, the recording plays perfectly as long as I dont touch fast forward/reverse |
| [16:45:29] | markl_: | is there a way to turn on a bit of overscanning during a playback? |
| [16:45:47] | justinh: | oh dear God. That Practical Mythtv book mentioned themes from my old web address. OOPS |
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| [16:46:21] | DGnome: | :o |
| [16:46:39] | BULLE: | markl_: i think you can use a bit of overscan on the the tv output, and then tell mythfrontend to display on a smaller rectangle, so in essense it doesnt display the gui on non seeable parts |
| [16:47:23] | levander: | How does mythfilldatabse know the username/password to get into the database? |
| [16:47:35] | levander: | I don't see any command line options. There's a config file somewhere? |
| [16:48:20] | markl_: | BULLE: right but i was wondering if there is a key to adjust it on the fly |
| [16:48:34] | markl_: | about 25% of the shows i watch have closed captioning garbage at the top |
| [16:48:54] | markl_: | so i would prefer to temporarily turn it on and have it automatically turn off when i'm done watching |
| [16:49:56] | BULLE: | markl_: dont think so |
| [16:50:00] | BULLE: | but im no expert |
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| [16:55:05] | GreyFoxx: | levander: It pulls it from the database |
| [16:55:14] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv-setup places the info in the database |
| [16:55:31] | GreyFoxx: | pretty much all config info is in the database |
| [16:56:20] | levander: | GreyFoxx: But, how does mythfilldatabase get into the database to retrieve these values? |
| [16:57:03] | GreyFoxx: | Either it reads from a mysql.txt files or if it's recent enough it can use upnp auto discovery to find the info |
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| [17:02:40] | GreyFoxx: | man, I need a little farm of upnp devices. |
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| [17:10:07] | darkfrog: | GreyFoxx, hey man...you helped me out a long time ago. :) |
| [17:11:04] | GreyFoxx: | Well it looks like any dreams of playing recordings on the xbox60 wont be happenning for a while yet |
| [17:11:15] | GreyFoxx: | but regular videos will be |
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| [17:23:54] | benben: | hi there, I was wondering what subtitle support was like with mythtv? |
| [17:24:12] | benben: | i've looked over the documentation but not noticed anything |
| [17:25:39] | Patina: | It works quite well with digital tv. |
| [17:25:57] | benben: | awesome, thats good news |
| [17:25:58] | Patina: | Don't know about analog since I don't have that. |
| [17:26:07] | benben: | nah, this is for digital |
| [17:26:23] | clever: | 2007-12–23 13:24:22.027 Decoder error. DecoderOgg: Failed to open input. Error 5. |
| [17:26:31] | clever: | mythmusic no worky:P |
| [17:26:40] | clever: | bigest problem from that error is that it halts the player |
| [17:26:44] | clever: | and doesnt keep going |
| [17:26:49] | benben: | thanks Patina =) |
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| [17:31:35] | Toxicity999: | Analog subs are fine as well. |
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| [17:37:29] | justinh: | clever: normally means it can't read the file or you have codecs missing |
| [17:37:41] | clever: | the file plays fine in mplayer |
| [17:37:52] | clever: | and this one was actualy riped by a mythfrontend |
| [17:38:04] | clever: | it can encode to it but cant play it?:S |
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| [17:40:54] | clever: | justinh: what package might have the ogg codec's mythtv can use? |
| [17:41:37] | justinh: | libvorbis, possibly? |
| [17:41:43] | justinh: | apt-cache search ftw! |
| [17:42:28] | clever: | ligogg-dev is installed |
| [17:43:22] | clever: | adding libvorbin-dev |
| [17:43:35] | clever: | libvorbis-dev is already the newest version. |
| [17:43:40] | justinh: | just the headers & source will be no use I'll bet |
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| [17:54:02] | clever: | odd |
| [17:54:15] | clever: | justinh: the files play fine on the frontend that ripped them |
| [17:54:26] | clever: | which was built on a diff release of ubuntu |
| [17:56:34] | clever: | i'll try riping to mp3 |
| [17:57:57] | justinh: | eh? ogg not 'free' enough for ubunut? :P |
| [18:00:04] | justinh: | bah where has mythrename.pl gone? |
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| [18:00:50] | clever: | ogg works fine in ubuntu 7.10 in myth |
| [18:00:55] | clever: | but in the 6.06 mythtv its dead |
| [18:01:11] | clever: | both are trunk svn myth |
| [18:01:19] | clever: | so its probly a lib diff |
| [18:01:19] | justinh: | I still find it astonishing the amount of stuff not installed by default |
| [18:01:47] | clever: | such as? |
| [18:03:07] | justinh: | never you mind |
| [18:03:13] | clever: | :( |
| [18:03:16] | justinh: | arghhh ftp to my xbox no worky |
| [18:03:30] | justinh: | stuff like basic 3d acceleration for Intel VGA |
| [18:03:32] | clever: | slap it with linux |
| [18:03:49] | clever: | i only have 1 intel video card and its stuck with xp right now |
| [18:04:01] | clever: | and some of the video drivers arent exactly free |
| [18:04:21] | clever: | could be similar problems with those drivers |
| [18:04:49] | clever: | i still cant get my bcm43xx driver to work on the wifi in 1 of my laptops |
| [18:05:02] | clever: | even when riping firmware out of the drivers on the xp install |
| [18:07:13] | clever: | i think one of my systems wound up using the plain vesa driver for a short while |
| [18:07:25] | clever: | but thats enough to get the next better one going |
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| [18:13:21] | justinh: | gawd SAMBA sucks donkeys |
| [18:13:29] | justinh: | 6MB/sec :( |
| [18:14:31] | clever: | goo ftp! |
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| [18:16:23] | markl_: | nfs 0wnz j00 |
| [18:16:45] | markl_: | meatwad, heh |
| [18:16:49] | clever: | yeah nfs does do good |
| [18:16:56] | clever: | but winblows cant nfs |
| [18:17:04] | clever: | ive tried a nfs server in cygwin and it was horid |
| [18:17:04] | markl_: | rm -rf windows |
| [18:17:09] | clever: | yay |
| [18:18:24] | BULLE: | there are pretty ok nfs stuff for windows |
| [18:18:33] | BULLE: | but all i have seen is payware |
| [18:18:51] | justinh: | XBMC doesn't do NFS either |
| [18:19:08] | justinh: | only pretendy network file systems |
| [18:19:31] | justinh: | something's up with FTP on it. just isnt worky |
| [18:19:42] | clever: | from a glance at the source |
| [18:19:51] | clever: | it looks like mythtv has the source for the vorbis decoder |
| [18:20:12] | clever: | but that could just be to handle the uniq interface to external vorbis lib's |
| [18:20:13] | iamlindoro: | probably that which belongs to ffmpeg... doesn't mean it's used, though |
| [18:20:30] | clever: | yeah but both my 6.06 and 7.10 are using the same source |
| [18:20:38] | clever: | yet only the 7.10 can actualy play ogg |
| [18:20:49] | clever: | same source yet diff errors |
| [18:20:54] | justinh: | really isn't wide to mix it up like that |
| [18:20:57] | justinh: | *wise |
| [18:21:14] | clever: | im using the same mythtv version on both sides |
| [18:21:20] | iamlindoro: | then the issue probably isn't within mythtv |
| [18:21:22] | justinh: | sharing libs across boxes with different distros |
| [18:21:23] | clever: | dont see why the distro version mater much |
| [18:21:36] | justinh: | library versions it's compiled against |
| [18:21:41] | clever: | im not sharing the mythtv binarys across distro versions |
| [18:22:01] | clever: | theP4 host built its own binarys localy and cant play ogg |
| [18:22:21] | justinh: | check the make log :P |
| [18:22:23] | clever: | d600 is running 7.10 with binarys built on a diff 7.10 and has no trouble with ogg(encode and decode) |
| [18:22:40] | clever: | i just riped to mp3:P |
| [18:22:46] | clever: | that fixed this albumb |
| [18:23:07] | clever: | i can fix the ogg problem itself later to fix all the other songs |
| [18:24:46] | justinh: | well, at least I have a few episodes of Spooks to watch when I'm holed up at the outlaws' tonight & tomorrow :) |
| [18:25:16] | justinh: | wonder how good the iPoo nanoo tv output is for watching xvids |
| [18:25:35] | justinh: | less bulky than carting eggsboggs around |
| [18:25:56] | justinh: | games are significantly more lame though |
| [18:26:34] | clever: | touch vorbis*cpp;time make |
| [18:26:38] | justinh: | heh while I remember I'll have to put itunes on a USB stick. they only have dialup |
| [18:26:44] | clever: | no errors visible and its using -lvorbis and friends |
| [18:28:12] | clever: | bbl |
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| [19:36:23] | levander: | Last time I installed MythTV I did something so that I could access the database remotely. Now I can't find the doc.'s for what to do? Anyone got a link? |
| [19:38:37] | iamlindoro: | levander, you probably want to look at the "bind-address" setting in /etc/mysql/my.cnf... outside of that it's mysql permissions which should be covered fairly well in the mythtv howto on mythtv.org |
| [19:39:09] | iamlindoro: | ie cahnge bind-address from localhost or 127.0.0.1 to your actual ip, ie 192.168.what.ever |
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| [19:53:10] | levander: | iamlindoro: Yeah, bind-address in my.cnf worked. I was looking for a setting in mythtv-setup. |
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| [20:04:37] | iamlindoro: | levander: great, glad that worked |
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| [20:14:49] | iamlindoro: | Holy crap, finally got POS mythweather working |
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| [20:22:51] | Hilikus: | do i need to transcode videos to be able to use mytharchive? |
| [20:24:11] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythArchive |
| [20:24:19] | iamlindoro: | look at the dependicy portion, that should be all you need |
| [20:24:24] | iamlindoro: | er dependency |
| [20:25:42] | iamlindoro: | But, more or less, if your are putting something besides mpeg-2 files on the disk (you record to NUV) or your recordings exceed the size of the disk, yes, you will need to be able to transcode |
| [20:26:01] | iamlindoro: | but mytharchive should handle that all automagically |
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| [20:31:25] | Hilikus: | If a file isn't an MPEG-2 file or the file doesn't have a DVD compliant resolution it will be re-encoded using ffmpeg so it is DVD compliant. |
| [20:31:41] | Hilikus: | whats the dvd compliant resolution |
| [20:31:46] | iamlindoro: | 720x480 |
| [20:31:56] | Hilikus: | i want my dvd to play in a regular dvd plyaer |
| [20:32:22] | iamlindoro: | mytharchive takes care of all that for you, though |
| [20:32:26] | Hilikus: | what about the bitrate and all that quality stuff |
| [20:32:29] | Hilikus: | oh ok |
| [20:33:23] | iamlindoro: | bitrate starts at zero and goes up to 9 or Mbit I beleive, and that can range depending on how much video you want to get on the disk... mytharchive should automatically adjust bitrate to fit however much you add to the disk |
| [20:33:37] | iamlindoro: | again, nothing you need to worry about, mytharchive will handle it |
| [20:33:48] | Hilikus: | nice! |
| [20:34:26] | Hilikus: | last thing, whats the raw format? i guess i dont need it? |
| [20:34:45] | iamlindoro: | What do you mean raw format? DVD is Mpeg-2 |
| [20:35:39] | Hilikus: | Main features of the raw archive format |
| [20:35:59] | iamlindoro: | ah, that's for archival of stuff for re-inserting into myth |
| [20:36:09] | Hilikus: | oh, so thats not what i need |
| [20:36:13] | iamlindoro: | If you want to make a dvd-compliant disc, it's not what you want |
| [20:36:14] | Hilikus: | thanks a lot iamlindoro |
| [20:36:16] | iamlindoro: | no prob |
| [20:36:21] | Hilikus: | c ya |
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| [21:37:21] | levander: | Hey, have yall seen this? cttvlistings.net offers TV listings cheaper than Schedules Direct. |
| [21:37:29] | cipher_nemo_: | hello. Anyone able to help me get my LIRC remote working with MythTV? I got it working globally, but I can't get my lircrc file to be utilized by MythTV |
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| [21:37:49] | cipher_nemo_: | SD is only $20/month though |
| [21:37:56] | cipher_nemo_: | correction $20/year |
| [21:38:10] | levander: | Yeah, and cttvlistings is $7/year |
| [21:38:18] | cipher_nemo_: | ah, that is a lot cheaper, lol |
| [21:39:03] | ** cipher_nemo_ pays the extra $13/year since lazy to change it over manually :-) ** | |
| [21:39:32] | levander: | I know it's a political issue. But, I really felt like $20/year was still way too high. You're paying for more a lot than bandwidth at $20/year. The other cost that would be whatever it costs for SD to get the listings. |
| [21:39:59] | levander: | If cttvlistings is providing it @ $7/year, it means the listings are available to make that service a lot cheaper. |
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| [21:40:10] | levander: | cipher_nemo_: If you've already paid for a subscription, no need to switch now. |
| [21:40:15] | cipher_nemo_: | it's not that much, but I know that it's a lot compared to when we used to get it for free :-) |
| [21:40:19] | levander: | Of course, cttvlistings may suck. Who knows? |
| [21:40:31] | benben: | why not use EIT? |
| [21:40:33] | benben: | :) |
| [21:40:46] | cipher_nemo_: | SD has been reliable for me so far |
| [21:40:50] | levander: | Does Comcast provide EIT that works with Myth? |
| [21:41:02] | cipher_nemo_: | though not extremely fast for mythfill, it's fast enough |
| [21:41:14] | benben: | not a clue |
| [21:41:15] | levander: | cipher_nemo_: Yeah, I've heard good things about SD reliability. They're doing a good job. I just wonder how much they're keeping in their pocket... |
| [21:41:15] | benben: | :) |
| [21:42:13] | levander: | I'm signing up with cttvlistings and check it out. They have a plan that's limited to four days of data at a time for free. I'm just gonna try that. |
| [21:42:22] | simonp__: | hi, i'm getting a seg fault when trying to watch a rip of a dvd. the last line from the is '2007-12–23 21:16:03.598 VideoOutputXv: XvMC Adaptor Name: 'XV_SWOV'' |
| [21:42:22] | cipher_nemo_: | levander, oh well. I'm not too worried about it if it stays $20. Even non-profits have to have money to run and pay themselves a salary. If it jumps up high, I might think about someone else |
| [21:42:34] | Kernel: | only thing with sd...is my provider(comcast in massachusetts) switch channels around a bit about a month or so ago...and sd STILL hasnt upfated it |
| [21:42:43] | cipher_nemo_: | 4-days at a time free? hmmm... nice option! |
| [21:42:50] | simonp__: | the it says Unable to create XvMC Surface |
| [21:43:00] | simonp__: | this is an epia machine |
| [21:43:20] | Kernel: | *updated |
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| [21:43:40] | levander: | Kernel: That may be Comcast's fault. SD just purchases through whatever listings they're receiving from their supplier. |
| [21:43:48] | levander: | SD doesn't run around and gather all that data themselves. |
| [21:43:57] | Kernel: | yea..but i pay them to keep updated lists of shows.... |
| [21:43:59] | levander: | I assume. |
| [21:44:03] | Kernel: | oh thats weak |
| [21:44:16] | Kernel: | i kinda expected them to keep it updated seeing how i now pay. |
| [21:44:24] | cipher_nemo_: | Anyone able to help with getting my currently functional remote working with mythtv using lircrc file? I have it configured as it should be, and the remote works in Ubuntu just fine, but doesn't customize for MYthTV when the front end is launched. |
| [21:44:27] | Kernel: | when it was free..couldnt complain. |
| [21:44:29] | levander: | Kernel: Well, that's not what they do. They're buying the listings, and providing them in a format you can use with MythTV. |
| [21:44:43] | Kernel: | hmm |
| [21:44:52] | levander: | cipher_nemo_: Sorry, I haven't even configured a remote yet. |
| [21:44:59] | Kernel: | so theres no hope of it being fixed? |
| [21:45:08] | BULLE: | Kernel: in time i bet |
| [21:45:15] | levander: | Kernel: SD has a forum, go there and ask. I have no idea. |
| [21:45:41] | Kernel: | its been about a month+ seince i noticed it switched. |
| [21:46:03] | cipher_nemo_: | levander, I've used an RF mini-keyboard and touchpad for mine, but setting it up for someone else with Remote Wonder II remotes. It's sweet with the mouse functionality on the remote, but keys aren't being mapped in MythTV with lircrc... very odd |
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| [21:46:43] | xris: | Kernel: just an fyi, TMS (where we/SD get data from) is limited by the quality of information provided to them by the networks... and Comcast buys their data from TMS just like we do. |
| [21:47:13] | xris: | If there is problematic data, though, use the lineup trouble submission form and we can have TMS look into the problem. |
| [21:47:16] | nettow0822_: | i downloaded the latest linuxtv drivers to use a pcie fusion hdtv rt gold express card but mythtv doesn't recognize it |
| [21:47:16] | nettow0822_: | but it just so happens that I have the same card in a pci version..... I swapped the pcie for the pci and mythtv didn't care....it worked |
| [21:48:22] | nettow0822_: | what is the best way to get this fixed in an upcoming version? |
| [21:49:02] | Kernel: | xris: im looking at the forum....its like...they no longer have the scrolling channel of listings on chan3(bu who needs that with myth) they also switched what channel mtv is on. cartoon network doesnt seem to exist anymore. alot of the sports channels have switched also. |
| [21:50:34] | xris: | Kernel: report the issue. I know that a lot of channel changes were scheduled for this time of year (e.g. TMS sent out an announcement about discovery HD changing its name)., maybe something got screwed up, or TMS released some channel changes earlier than they should have. |
| [21:50:51] | xris: | the lineup trouble form creates a ticket for our volunteer group to look into things with TMS. |
| [21:51:05] | Kernel: | hmm ok. |
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| [22:28:11] | squish102: | does any1 use a dlink dsm-320 media extender? i am trying to find out what format to transcode so that it can use it |
| [22:29:08] | xris: | it should play mpg files from a pvr-x50 |
| [22:29:12] | xris: | via upnp, no less |
| [22:29:59] | squish102: | it works kinda ok with the native pvr-150 recordings |
| [22:30:25] | squish102: | but it is going over 802.11g so it shudders if there is too much interference |
| [22:30:59] | squish102: | so i was hoping to transcode to something smaller so that it would have less to transfer and hopefully stop shuddering |
| [22:31:04] | xris: | yeah... doing much of anything video over wireless is painful |
| [22:31:27] | xris: | I would recommend reading the manual to see what formats it supports... |
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| [22:32:36] | squish102: | using nuvexport to the formats it says it supports dont seem to work through mythtv |
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| [22:32:59] | squish102: | but if i throw the avi onto home server's upnp it works fine |
| [22:33:30] | GreyFoxx: | You can only share out the stuff in your mythvideo directory if it's been imported into the DB via the video manager |
| [22:33:33] | squish102: | so possibly home server is transcoding on the fly |
| [22:33:43] | squish102: | but to what, i have no idea |
| [22:33:52] | GreyFoxx: | IT will play most formats |
| [22:33:59] | GreyFoxx: | xvid, divx, wmv, mpeg1/mpeg2 |
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| [22:34:09] | GreyFoxx: | err codecs I should say |
| [22:34:13] | GreyFoxx: | avi's and mpeg2 containers |
| [22:34:19] | GreyFoxx: | never tried mkv or anything like that on it |
| [22:34:28] | squish102: | dsm-320? |
| [22:34:32] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [22:34:46] | GreyFoxx: | My father uses one (wirelessly) as a frontend in his house |
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| [22:35:26] | squish102: | ok, i have the stuff in mythvideo dir but when i select it it reports on dlink that the format is not supported |
| [22:35:51] | GreyFoxx: | What kind of file ? (If it's a .nuv the dsm wont play it) |
| [22:35:52] | squish102: | do you use normal nuvexport to xvid? |
| [22:36:14] | GreyFoxx: | nope he just plays the mpeg2 recordings directly |
| [22:36:27] | GreyFoxx: | and the few xvid avi's I've made for him |
| [22:36:33] | squish102: | my pvr150 mpeg2 files play sort of fine with |
| [22:36:33] | GreyFoxx: | but usually ust his recordings |
| [22:36:44] | squish102: | can he fast forward? |
| [22:36:54] | GreyFoxx: | he plays recordings from pvr250's and from DVB recordings |
| [22:37:17] | GreyFoxx: | squish102: Not with the mpeg2's. But he can with the avi's |
| [22:37:22] | squish102: | my fast forward always starts at the begining after pressing the play button again |
| [22:37:32] | squish102: | ok, good to know it is not only me |
| [22:37:36] | GreyFoxx: | the dsm requires a special seektabnle file for mpeg2 files for seeking in them |
| [22:37:56] | GreyFoxx: | and at this point noone has tried to reverse engineer it so that we can fake it |
| [22:38:06] | squish102: | do u know the settings that you have used to create the avi's? |
| [22:38:21] | GreyFoxx: | squish102: No, AutoGK does all that for me :) |
| [22:38:24] | squish102: | are they the standard nuvexport ones? |
| [22:39:26] | squish102: | ok, so if i take a mpeg2 from mythtv, run it through autogk... use gspot to find out info and then use same settings for nuvexport/transcode (whatever) then i should be good |
| [22:39:44] | GreyFoxx: | and awful lot of effort |
| [22:40:23] | ** GreyFoxx is currently looking for any evidence of someone upnp streaming mpeg2 to the xbox360 without on thefly transcoding to wmv ** | |
| [22:41:01] | squish102: | well i could possibly run a script after a recording to convert it to avi and drop in video dir |
| [22:41:21] | squish102: | btw u mentioned dvb, is that HD? |
| [22:41:36] | GreyFoxx: | my dvb reecordings aren't hd |
| [22:41:43] | squish102: | my HD recordings dont play, so i have to figure out how to get them down to 720x480 |
| [22:42:06] | squish102: | ok.. im 50% of the way through figuring that out |
| [22:42:26] | GreyFoxx: | the 320 is SDTV only, the 5xx models are hd capable |
| [22:42:34] | squish102: | im gonna try autogk now and hope it streams to the dlink after that |
| [22:43:03] | squish102: | yes.. i know i should have saved my money and got a 5xx model, or a popcornhour |
| [22:43:39] | ** GreyFoxx installs yet another upnp server for testing ** | |
| [22:46:09] | BULLE: | hmm, a bit offtopic, but are there any nice upnp clients around, that allow you to view images from an upnp serve r? |
| [22:46:35] | GreyFoxx: | I use djmount most of the time |
| [22:46:46] | GreyFoxx: | noidea what is available for windows though |
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| [22:47:11] | BULLE: | djmount doesnt work well with my nokia phones |
| [22:47:15] | BULLE: | it goes nuts |
| [22:47:20] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [23:29:47] | GreyFoxx: | directhex: Since you were asking about xbox360 stuff. I got it working for video's |
| [23:30:42] | directhex: | coo! was it something simple? |
| [23:31:07] | GreyFoxx: | Well, after all the testing and tweaking the overall changes are huge |
| [23:31:16] | GreyFoxx: | but it was a couple hours of messing around |
| [23:31:47] | GreyFoxx: | And now I'm going to rewrite how we return the list of videos to actually be adirectory structure of the mythvideo location |
| [23:32:07] | GreyFoxx: | no playback of recordings yet though. The xbox appears to ignore any mpeg files I send in the list of videos |
| [23:32:18] | directhex: | does the upnp server have any knowledge of genres? the ps3 seems to think all genres are emoty, when browsing using them |
| [23:32:28] | GreyFoxx: | so I want to find a upnp server that does server mpeg2 video |
| [23:32:42] | GreyFoxx: | directhex: Only if the genre info is filled in inside videomanager |
| [23:32:55] | GreyFoxx: | but that will be changing over the next few days |
| [23:32:56] | directhex: | is that mpeg2-ts or mpeg2-ts? upnp serves recordings fine to my ps3 |
| [23:33:14] | GreyFoxx: | directhex: The problem is xbox specific. It works fine with other players |
| [23:33:38] | GreyFoxx: | so I want to find a upnp server that successfully serves mpeg2 video to the 360 without onthefly transcoding to wmv |
| [23:33:40] | directhex: | bah |
| [23:33:56] | GreyFoxx: | so I can capture what they return |
| [23:34:17] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm I should shove a mpg on a usb stick and see if it ignores that too |
| [23:34:44] | directhex: | make sure you have no partition table on said stick |
| [23:35:10] | GreyFoxx: | The stick I'm gonna use has already been used to playstuff on the 360 |
| [23:35:16] | GreyFoxx: | just never tried ampeg file |
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| [23:37:31] | ** GreyFoxx copies a dvb, pvr and firewire recording to the stuck ** | |
| [23:39:10] | squish102: | xris, if u here, can u give me some idea what to look for with: Error at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/status/handler.php, line 29: and file_get_contents(http://192.168.2.131:6544) [function.file-get-contents]: failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! |
| [23:39:14] | GreyFoxx: | stick even |
| [23:39:29] | squish102: | when hitting backend status on a mythbuntu |
| [23:40:30] | directhex: | GreyFoxx, are there known cases of the upnp part of myth... dying? i've had cases where i've lost the ability to play stuff on the ps3, only a BE restart has brought it back to life |
| [23:41:17] | GreyFoxx: | directhex: nothing I know of offhand. But I have seen talk of a ps3 bug that cropped up in arecent firmware |
| [23:41:25] | GreyFoxx: | haven't paid too much attention to it though |
| [23:44:26] | GreyFoxx: | ok this must be intentional |
| [23:44:34] | GreyFoxx: | even on a usb stick mpg files don't show up |
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| [23:47:20] | mzb: | I still don't understand the idea of "Recording Groups" in multirec ... anyone got a link (or idea;) ? |
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| [23:48:21] | mzb: | s/idea/clue ;) |
| [23:49:35] | benben: | hm, i'm looking at buying some hardware for a mythtv box, any reason why i shouldn't invest in asus's p5e-vm hdmi? :) |
| [23:52:07] | mzb: | s/Recording Group/Input Group/ |
| [23:55:14] | mzb: | hmm ... looks like I might need to update to at least r15036 anyway ... |
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| [23:58:34] | mzb: | after Christmas, that is ;) |
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