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| [00:22:34] | Kazan: | is there a good reason why openGL renderers are still disabled in trunk? |
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| [00:26:12] | at0m|c: | Hi, mythfrontend returns sementation fault: http://pastebin.com/d398a5371 . I can connect fine using a frontend's mythfrontend, but running it on the backend doesnt. i tried the log, which didnt return anything... It used to work fine on that machine, but i cant find what messed it up. anyone have an idea? |
| [00:28:02] | iamlindoro: | Do you let auto-updates run or have you installed *any* updates since installing myth? |
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| [00:29:43] | mzb_d800: | at0m|c: try adding "-v all" |
| [00:30:00] | at0m|c: | i originally installed knoppmyth r5f27, then changed to debian testing repositories. current: 0.20.20070821–1 |
| [00:30:03] | at0m|c: | mzb_d800, oki |
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| [00:30:47] | iamlindoro: | at0mic, if you swapped around package versions without doing a complete purge, that may have something to do with it |
| [00:31:45] | ** Kazan looks around for danielk ** | |
| [00:32:47] | jams: | Kazan- doesn't hang out in irc |
| [00:33:52] | Kazan: | any way to get in contact with him |
| [00:34:00] | Kazan: | to ask him if openGL renderers are stable in trunk once again |
| [00:34:02] | at0m|c: | iamlindoro, i should purge the database? |
| [00:34:16] | jams: | Kazan- email works |
| [00:34:25] | Kazan: | address? |
| [00:34:38] | GreyFoxx: | is all over the mailing lists |
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| [00:35:26] | iamlindoro: | at0mic, as long as you don't use a database with an *newer* version of the schema than it's supposed to have, you should be fine. |
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| [00:36:02] | at0m|c: | iamlindoro, ok |
| [00:36:14] | Kazan: | all i'm trying to find out is if OpenGL renderers are stable in trunk once again |
| [00:36:22] | Kazan: | you wouldn't happen to know either way would you Grey? |
| [00:37:05] | GreyFoxx: | I was unaware they were considered unstable. I've been using them for weeks |
| [00:37:14] | at0m|c: | mzb_d800, i tried -v all, but reveals nothing to me.. |
| [00:37:27] | Kazan: | a few months ago |
| [00:37:29] | GreyFoxx: | though I plan to go back to XV cause I find the gl renderer uses too much cpu |
| [00:37:36] | Kazan: | danielk set them to disabled by default |
| [00:37:43] | Kazan: | openGL uses more CPU? |
| [00:37:46] | Kazan: | what's your hardware? |
| [00:37:46] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [00:37:50] | GreyFoxx: | Nvidia cards |
| [00:37:57] | ** Kazan is using an nvidia board as well ** | |
| [00:38:04] | GreyFoxx: | the opengl renderer uses more cpu than regular Xv |
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| [00:38:09] | Kazan: | i'm getting annoyed with XvMC choking on slight corruptions in the MPEG2 stream |
| [00:38:12] | GreyFoxx: | by quite a bit |
| [00:38:16] | Kazan: | hm |
| [00:38:18] | GreyFoxx: | I don'y use XvMC |
| [00:38:23] | Kazan: | before he disabled it it used less |
| [00:38:26] | Kazan: | with OpenGL+XvMC |
| [00:38:26] | mzb_d800: | at0m|c: make sure that the correct mysql params are set in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [00:38:32] | Kazan: | i have to use XvMC for HD frames |
| [00:38:39] | Kazan: | only a athlon 2500+ in it |
| [00:38:57] | GreyFoxx: | my 2500+ was capable of playing HDTV material, but just barely |
| [00:39:05] | Kazan: | i've been getting annoyed by myth growing slower and slower over time it seems |
| [00:39:17] | GreyFoxx: | my main frontend is a sempron 3000+_and it plays it just fine |
| [00:39:21] | Kazan: | yes... i can turn off XvMC... if i want to not have any cpu left over what so ever |
| [00:39:35] | Kazan: | so i can't have comflag running in the background |
| [00:39:46] | GreyFoxx: | I don't comflagg :) |
| [00:40:00] | Kazan: | ... |
| [00:40:03] | Kazan: | then why have a mythbox :P |
| [00:40:08] | GreyFoxx: | but you can certainly do some profiling, see if you can narrow down where slow downs are |
| [00:40:24] | GreyFoxx: | for the PVR, and overall media system, not just to avoid ads :) |
| [00:40:35] | Kazan: | i was teasing |
| [00:41:13] | GreyFoxx: | Now that My Xbox360 is capable of handling xvid/divx I'm tempted to look at getting that working with upnp again |
| [00:42:07] | GreyFoxx: | not that I';d likely use it, but just for something to do :) |
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| [00:45:45] | at0m|c: | mzb_d800, apart from the LocalHostName is't the same mysql.txt from the one on the other frontend which works fine. |
| [00:46:44] | mzb_d800: | at0m|c: check ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt vs /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [00:48:58] | mzb_d800: | have you allowed that user (the one described in mysql.txt) access to the sql db on *THAT* host? |
| [00:49:53] | at0m|c: | mzb_d800, DBHostName= is hostname in one of them, the other it's the IP |
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| [00:50:12] | at0m|c: | yes, the user has access |
| [00:51:26] | mzb_d800: | watch the backend logs as well then (when you start the fe) |
| [00:51:30] | mzb_d800: | sorry, gtg |
| [00:51:39] | at0m|c: | oki, thanks for your help!! |
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| [01:00:24] | ircNuser: | I wish when you select a recording to watch, that it would prompt for options such as resume from bookmark, star over, etc.. |
| [01:03:36] | jams: | ircNuser- instead of pressing enter press right |
| [01:03:42] | ircNuser is now known as Aval0n | |
| [01:03:48] | Aval0n: | stupid thing |
| [01:03:56] | Aval0n: | right gives you the option to do that? |
| [01:04:21] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [01:04:58] | jams: | yes |
| [01:08:05] | Der_Thomas: | anyone know how to get myth to deinterlace a video with either a user job or by transcoding? |
| [01:12:35] | Aval0n: | is there a secret button I can press to stop my hd playback stuttering now :) |
| [01:12:46] | Aval0n: | !seen |torg| |
| [01:12:46] | MythLogBot: | |torg| was last seen 15 days 22 hours 27 minutes 32 seconds ago |
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| [01:19:51] | Der_Thomas: | anyone know why, by default the High, Med and Low quality transcode settings are set to the same bitrate and quality? |
| [01:20:00] | Der_Thomas: | anyone know what better settings ouwld be? |
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| [01:39:07] | my2keh: | hey does mythtv normally report low (ie 25% signal) for satelittes? |
| [01:39:18] | my2keh: | even though I have like 90% from my receiver? |
| [01:43:02] | directhex: | some tv cards report funny values for snr and signal strenght |
| [01:43:43] | my2keh: | hmmm OK |
| [01:43:56] | my2keh: | wierd because the video is uhh choppy all of a sudden in mythtv |
| [01:44:08] | my2keh: | and signal is at like 25% |
| [01:44:16] | my2keh: | but I hook it up to a receiver 90% |
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| [01:45:03] | floppyears: | hi guys |
| [01:45:11] | floppyears: | do any of you watch livetv using mythtv ? |
| [01:45:16] | my2keh: | nadda |
| [01:47:09] | Computer_Czar: | Yes |
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| [01:49:15] | cesman: | is there any other way to watch "live" tv? |
| [01:50:09] | jeffery: | cesman, what do you mean any other way |
| [01:50:55] | cesman: | jeffery: my point is, MythTV is the best way to watch TV |
| [01:50:57] | cesman: | :) |
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| [01:59:26] | Der_Thomas: | anyone around here use mythstream? |
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| [02:23:44] | oobe: | Der_Thomas, i have it installed and messed around with it but i dont really use it |
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| [02:47:56] | williammanda0822: | anyone have any ideas on how I can set different channel frequencies for a snapstream firefly remote |
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| [03:08:10] | williammanda0822: | does anyone know how to post on Gossamer Threads? |
| [03:08:43] | GreyFoxx: | I think that's just an archive, you can't post via that |
| [03:08:48] | GreyFoxx: | you have to join the list to post |
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| [03:10:07] | williammanda0822: | i did join |
| [03:10:21] | GreyFoxx: | then you post by emailing the list |
| [03:10:26] | GreyFoxx: | not via the gossamer webpage |
| [03:11:37] | williammanda0822: | ok....but i still confused |
| [03:12:03] | williammanda0822: | it is a new way of doing it |
| [03:12:21] | GreyFoxx: | What do you mean ? What is new ? |
| [03:12:46] | GreyFoxx: | or I should say, what is confusing :) |
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| [03:16:38] | mokkan: | hey, can i put custom commands in lircrc for when a button is pushed? so it runs a script? |
| [03:17:01] | williammanda0822: | so i send an email to Gossamer Threads to make a post? |
| [03:17:07] | GreyFoxx: | williammanda0822: no |
| [03:17:25] | GreyFoxx: | gossamer has nothing to do with the mythtv mailing lists. they just archive copies of the posts |
| [03:17:44] | williammanda0822: | where do they get the posts? |
| [03:17:46] | GreyFoxx: | there are several list archiving sides |
| [03:17:50] | GreyFoxx: | they join the mailing list |
| [03:18:06] | GreyFoxx: | and as posts come to them they put them into their system to show up in the archive/be searchable |
| [03:18:34] | williammanda0822: | ok...so how do I post? |
| [03:19:09] | GreyFoxx: | well, if you joined one of the mythtv mailing lists it would have emailed you a message that you had joined and would have included the email address you email to in order to post |
| [03:19:20] | GreyFoxx: | it's different for each list of course |
| [03:23:24] | williammanda0822: | well i joined Gossamer Threads an got a validation email.....nothing about a mail list.....I don't see how to join a mailing list |
| [03:23:36] | Beirdo: | ?! |
| [03:23:44] | GreyFoxx: | williammanda0822: just to be very clear |
| [03:24:04] | GreyFoxx: | gossamer(and any joining of anything gossamer) has NOTHING to do with joining the mythtv mailing lists |
| [03:24:22] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users/ |
| [03:24:27] | Beirdo: | it's only a place to read an archived copy of mailing list posts, nothing more. |
| [03:24:37] | GreyFoxx: | That is where you go to signup to the mythtv -users list |
| [03:26:16] | williammanda0822: | ty |
| [03:26:40] | williammanda0822: | sorry to be trouble but I didn't get that info from the site |
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| [04:42:17] | nettow0822: | does anyone know how to setup different channel ID's for snapstream firefly remote? |
| [04:42:35] | darkwizard: | hey all |
| [04:42:49] | darkwizard: | anyone here use more then one dvb card |
| [04:43:24] | nettow0822: | yes I use two...one in each computer |
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| [04:53:29] | darkwizard: | i mean on the same pc |
| [04:55:35] | cesman: | yes |
| [04:55:46] | ** cesman has two in each of his backends ** | |
| [04:55:49] | darkwizard: | cesman maybe u can help |
| [04:56:02] | darkwizard: | i get my card unknow |
| [04:56:14] | cesman: | is the backend running? |
| [04:56:16] | darkwizard: | bt878_probe: card id=[0x1fefe], Unknown card. |
| [04:56:21] | darkwizard: | yes |
| [04:56:37] | cesman: | you cannot have the backend running when you are in mythtv-setup |
| [04:57:15] | cesman: | and configuring the tuners |
| [04:57:16] | darkwizard: | i killed the backend |
| [04:57:24] | darkwizard: | then went into setup |
| [04:57:33] | darkwizard: | it don't see the card |
| [04:57:49] | darkwizard: | it shows 0 and 1 not 2 |
| [04:58:18] | cesman: | so, you have 3 in the backend? |
| [04:58:28] | darkwizard: | no |
| [04:58:34] | darkwizard: | well ya |
| [04:58:44] | cesman: | well, which is it? |
| [04:58:52] | darkwizard: | well 0 and 1 are used |
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| [04:59:09] | cesman: | you cannot ask for help, if you don't know the details yourself |
| [04:59:09] | darkwizard: | now 2 it won't see the card |
| [04:59:34] | cesman: | how many tuners do you have in the backend? |
| [05:00:00] | darkwizard: | 2 |
| [05:00:16] | cesman: | then you'll have 0 and 1 |
| [05:00:21] | cesman: | there will be no "2" |
| [05:00:33] | darkwizard: | well okay |
| [05:01:47] | cesman: | does that help you? |
| [05:01:55] | darkwizard: | not really |
| [05:02:10] | darkwizard: | because i can't say what i am using in here |
| [05:03:20] | _Kernel: | is there a way to automaticly have myth tv skip commercials?...when it goes to a commercial it says its marked as commercial but doesnt fast forward or skip the commercial |
| [05:03:31] | darkwizard: | dvbloopback: registering 1 adapters |
| [05:06:18] | cesman: | _Kernel: yes, it is in the setup somewhere... |
| [05:06:30] | cesman: | I imagine under the playback setting |
| [05:06:56] | _Kernel: | ok ilooked though didnt see it..but i kinda glaced though quickly... |
| [05:09:03] | jhulst: | _Kernel: If you have a keyboard, pressing 'z' will skip the commercial |
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| [05:11:28] | cesman: | "This program, brought to you in part by the z." |
| [05:11:53] | jhulst: | My favorite key on my mythbox :) |
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| [05:14:24] | chronographer: | hello, this may be an obvious question, BUT! where do I place sym links of media for mythtv to find? |
| [05:15:03] | cesman: | what media are you referring to? |
| [05:15:08] | cesman: | music, videos? |
| [05:15:40] | cesman: | you can configure MythTV to look in any directory you wish |
| [05:16:14] | cesman: | so for instances, if MythVideo is configured to look for videos in /myth/video |
| [05:16:24] | cesman: | you can place you symlink under there.... |
| [05:16:34] | chronographer: | yes |
| [05:16:36] | chronographer: | both |
| [05:16:45] | chronographer: | how do you configure? |
| [05:17:00] | chronographer: | i have Videos in home/Videos |
| [05:17:12] | chronographer: | and music in /home/Music |
| [05:19:27] | cesman: | utilities/setup > setup > media settings |
| [05:19:38] | chronographer: | thanks |
| [05:19:49] | cesman: | look at the music and video settings |
| [05:19:54] | cesman: | you're welcome |
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| [05:20:09] | chronographer: | too easy eh? i was looking in mythtv-setup |
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| [05:21:49] | Kichigai: | Say, anyone care to help me track down why my Myth Box has decided to stop scheduling recordings? |
| [05:22:50] | cesman: | writer's strike? |
| [05:23:36] | Kichigai: | Ha ha. No, seriously though, it's supposed to be nabbing some syndicated stuff, a lot of reruns, and shows that are pushing on despite the strike (like The Universe) and movies. |
| [05:24:20] | cesman: | check your backend log |
| [05:25:53] | chronographer: | now my remote doesn't work very well, i have a nova-t er.. know a good link? volume works, ok works, power works, thats it. |
| [05:27:02] | cesman: | chronographer: perhaps it is your lircd.conf file? |
| [05:27:39] | Kichigai: | Advice? http://pastebin.com/d7427004 |
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| [05:27:48] | Kichigai: | Seems to be some kind my MySQL problem. |
| [05:27:59] | Kichigai: | But it can access the DB for stuff like looking up shows |
| [05:28:44] | cesman: | could be a table w/ problems |
| [05:28:51] | Kichigai: | Any idea on how to fix it? |
| [05:28:52] | cesman: | check the db for errors |
| [05:29:00] | Kichigai: | I've got no clue how to do that. |
| [05:29:06] | Kichigai: | I'm a total nub when it comes to SQL stuff |
| [05:29:13] | Kichigai: | I tried to learn it once and it was full of epic fail. |
| [05:29:24] | cesman: | there are several ways |
| [05:30:08] | Kichigai: | Uh huh. |
| [05:30:12] | cesman: | do you know which version of MySQL you are running? |
| [05:30:33] | Kichigai: | 5.0.32 |
| [05:31:14] | cesman: | mysqlcheck --auto-repair mythconverg |
| [05:32:03] | Kichigai: | Ahh, it DID find errors |
| [05:33:01] | cesman: | :) |
| [05:33:03] | Kichigai: | All better now. Thanks! |
| [05:33:41] | cesman: | you're welcome |
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| [05:36:09] | Kichigai: | Oh, BTW, anyone in here familiar with XBMC MythTV? |
| [05:36:25] | DustyBin: | lol i cant believe i just read this |
| [05:36:34] | Kichigai: | Eh? |
| [05:36:42] | DustyBin: | "Digital radio means more stations have the ability to broadcast extra information alongside the audio. But some experts are looking at providing some pretty controversial extra radio content – pictures." |
| [05:36:51] | Kichigai: | lol |
| [05:37:01] | DustyBin: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/7132171.stm |
| [05:37:02] | Kichigai: | Because album covers are such a bad idea. |
| [05:37:27] | Kichigai: | I mean, look at what album covers did for iTunes and CoverFlow! |
| [05:37:29] | DustyBin: | dont we have this 'technology' already, called TV? |
| [05:37:32] | Kichigai: | Such a horrid idea. |
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| [05:43:25] | Kichigai: | Anyone familiar with SAMBA configs? |
| [05:44:29] | Kichigai: | I'm trying to configure SMB to share recordings with users other than just mythtv because of this half-crippled script I got my hands on. |
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| [05:55:10] | Kichigai: | Anyone know anything about the XBMC MythTV script? |
| [05:55:57] | darkwizard: | cesman i get this error dvb-bt8xx: probe of dvb0 failed with error -14 |
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| [06:11:35] | chronographer: | where do I find lircrc ?? |
| [06:11:41] | chronographer: | on ubuntu |
| [06:12:40] | chronographer: | oh nvm! found it |
| [06:13:18] | Kichigai: | lol |
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| [06:25:55] | ttuttle: | Hey, does anyone know if the USB HDTV tuner on Woot today is MythTV compatible? |
| [06:27:59] | cesman: | ttuttle: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices |
| [06:29:10] | ttuttle: | cesman: hmm, it's not lsited. |
| [06:33:18] | darkwizard: | cesman |
| [06:33:41] | cesman: | darkwizard: |
| [06:33:51] | darkwizard: | i get this error |
| [06:33:56] | darkwizard: | bttv0: using: Twinhan DST + clones [card=113,insmod option] |
| [06:33:56] | darkwizard: | bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00f500ff [init] |
| [06:33:56] | darkwizard: | bttv0: using tuner=4 |
| [06:33:56] | darkwizard: | bttv0: add subdevice "dvb0" |
| [06:33:56] | darkwizard: | bt878: AUDIO driver version 0.0.0 loaded |
| [06:33:57] | darkwizard: | bt878: Bt878 AUDIO function found (0). |
| [06:33:59] | darkwizard: | ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:02.1[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 217 |
| [06:34:01] | darkwizard: | bt878_probe: card id=[0x1fefe], Unknown card. |
| [06:34:03] | darkwizard: | Exiting.. |
| [06:34:05] | darkwizard: | ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:02:02.1 disabled |
| [06:34:07] | darkwizard: | bt878: probe of 0000:02:02.1 failed with error -22 |
| [06:34:09] | darkwizard: | dvb_bt8xx: unable to determine DMA core of card 0, |
| [06:34:11] | darkwizard: | dvb_bt8xx: if you have the ALSA bt87x audio driver installed, try removing it. |
| [06:34:13] | darkwizard: | dvb-bt8xx: probe of dvb0 failed with error -14 |
| [06:34:20] | pat_: | pastebin! |
| [06:34:29] | cesman: | what he said |
| [06:35:10] | ttuttle: | ==pat_ |
| [06:38:48] | chronographer: | doop ety doo !! I think my remote should work now in vlc AND mythtv!! (yay) *sigh........ what do i do now? |
| [06:39:18] | cesman: | write an article on the wiki? |
| [06:39:37] | chronographer: | oh i should I spose, I did it reading other articles though... |
| [06:39:51] | chronographer: | and mythtv is still silly, i need to run mythbackend manually |
| [06:40:03] | chronographer: | the /etc/init.d/mythbackend doesn't work |
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| [06:40:38] | cesman: | than, take a look at the backend log |
| [06:41:01] | chronographer: | oh ok. where's that? |
| [06:41:24] | cesman: | darkwizard: I'd suggest you follow the steps that is being outputted in regard to ALSA |
| [06:41:28] | chronographer: | nvm |
| [06:41:40] | cesman: | perhaps you need to blacklist that module |
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| [08:50:15] | Flexy: | I'm using debian-multimedias myth version 0.20.2.svn20071109–0.0 and some recordings can't be found. Logs seem perfectly normal with recording starting and ending at the right time. trying to watch the show via menu gives you warning about (can't remember it word by word) essentially not finding the file. What might be the cause/fix for this? WAF getting dangerously low here! :D |
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| [09:03:50] | cesman: | apt-get install new-wife |
| [09:03:52] | cesman: | ;) |
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| [09:05:52] | Flexy: | cesman: no can do. that's like changing the linux distro, I'm happy with the current one... :) And this affects me too, when my recordings get recorded to somewhere resembling /dev/null |
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| [09:15:20] | Flexy: | I can't mysql very much, how can I find out under which filename a recording should be? |
| [09:17:19] | justinh: | select filename from recorded where starttime=$starttime; maybe |
| [09:17:54] | justinh: | I very much doubt myth is recording the file to somewhere else |
| [09:18:31] | justinh: | personally I'd try to look into why the recordings are failing |
| [09:23:36] | tank-man: | what exactly is the error message? |
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| [09:28:42] | Flexy: | I doubt it too that it's recording to somewhere else. |
| [09:29:58] | Flexy: | and by wathcing the file recordings and their creation/modification times, I know that they are not recorded in the dir where they should be recorded |
| [09:30:36] | Flexy: | tank-man: do you mean the one showing on OSD when trying to wathc the recording? |
| [09:31:21] | justinh: | 'the file for this recording could not be found' would be my bet |
| [09:31:31] | Flexy: | I don't have access to the frontend right now, 850km distance... but I can try to find out it in backend or frontend logs |
| [09:31:31] | tank-man: | yea, and can you watch livetv? |
| [09:31:42] | Flexy: | justinh: sounds just about right |
| [09:32:09] | Flexy: | tank-man: yes, livetv works allways. and 95% of scheduled recordings |
| [09:32:20] | Flexy: | and failures are not tied to one channel |
| [09:32:41] | justinh: | if the backend isn't falling over and there's nothing in the log about why the recording isn't there – I suggest you look at things like your signal level (for DVB recordings), firewire connection (for firewire recordings) etc |
| [09:34:04] | Flexy: | justinh: dvb-c in use, I've never seen any pixelation or other telltales of weak signal. But how can I check it? |
| [09:34:15] | Flexy: | and the backend stays up |
| [09:34:39] | justinh: | and you aren't using any patches or devices that change the behaviour of dvb-c? |
| [09:34:56] | Flexy: | shows starting the recording and ending it in time in the logs. shows just like recordings that are succesful |
| [09:35:21] | justinh: | not using a 'virtual' dvb device either? |
| [09:35:22] | Flexy: | justinh: kernel is from debian repository |
| [09:35:50] | justinh: | maybe time to enable verbose logging for a while |
| [09:36:07] | Flexy: | virtual? I should say no, but must say not to my knowledge. And I don't know what virtual is in this context :) |
| [09:36:17] | justinh: | change the init script to do -v recording :) |
| [09:36:23] | Flexy: | in backend, I presume |
| [09:36:38] | Flexy: | -v recording, great, I'll give it a go |
| [09:36:44] | justinh: | Flexy: using virtual dvb devices is a naughty workaround some people use |
| [09:37:06] | Flexy: | justinh: ok, if debian kernel is not using it, then I am not using it |
| [09:37:13] | justinh: | fair nuff |
| [09:37:47] | justinh: | what I'd be suspecting at this point is the cable company messing about with the streams. cable companies do a _lot_ of non-standard stuff |
| [09:38:02] | justinh: | infact everybody with a hand in DVB does |
| [09:38:05] | justinh: | not just DVB-C |
| [09:38:05] | Flexy: | and the install is new, so there really should not be anything fucked up. (that said, 5 years with previous install and there was nothing fucked up :) |
| [09:38:36] | justinh: | DVB is supposed to be a 'standard' but everybody bolts on their own unique little things & wavers from the spec |
| [09:38:56] | Flexy: | right |
| [09:39:00] | justinh: | hell even DVB-T != DVB-T from country to country, same with DVB-S and DVB-C |
| [09:40:35] | justinh: | are you using a CI with a CAM by any chance? |
| [09:43:22] | Flexy: | no |
| [09:43:43] | justinh: | not that then ;) |
| [09:43:56] | justinh: | woo I got my diskless system to almost boot |
| [09:43:59] | Flexy: | I'm planning to get it, but not yet |
| [09:44:06] | justinh: | problem is it can't find the modules damnit |
| [09:44:27] | Flexy: | hehee, I earlier had one for dedicated frontend |
| [09:45:17] | Flexy: | booted via network, atftp, IIRC |
| [09:45:24] | justinh: | aye |
| [09:45:51] | justinh: | I might just chuck ubunut out of the window. they make it too damn hard to heavily customise it |
| [09:47:50] | justinh: | oh wait. wait! I'd already copied the hdd to the nfs share for the nfsroot so I should just be able to chroot to it, grab the kernel source from there |
| [09:48:16] | Flexy: | I did not find it too difficult with debian. and that was perhaps 3–4 years ago, when I was more of a newbie :) |
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| [09:51:26] | Dibblah: | ocirpas |
| [09:51:28] | Dibblah: | Heh. Wrong channel :) |
| [09:51:56] | justinh: | ahhh maybe this is it. I didn't make a label for the kernel as such. it's looking for /lib/modules/2.6.22 not /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic |
| [09:52:09] | Dibblah: | It's *still* not netbooting? |
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| [09:52:38] | Flexy: | justinh: Does this mean that the -v recording kicked in? Enabled verbose msgs: important general |
| [09:52:52] | justinh: | nope |
| [09:53:00] | justinh: | maybe it's a different option, I'm a bit rusty |
| [09:53:06] | justinh: | Dibblah: got further than before |
| [09:53:07] | Flexy: | ok |
| [09:53:12] | Flexy: | have to check it |
| [09:53:35] | justinh: | Flexy: try mythbackend -v help ;) |
| [09:53:59] | Dibblah: | What does uname -sr say? |
| [09:54:16] | justinh: | Dibblah: that'd assume it's running |
| [09:54:36] | Dibblah: | Bugger. Where are you at, then? |
| [09:54:48] | justinh: | booting, loading modules etc |
| [09:54:55] | Dibblah: | initrd? |
| [09:55:02] | justinh: | afaict |
| [09:55:09] | Flexy: | justinh: yep, plain record, not recording :) |
| [09:55:21] | justinh: | it gets as far as the console login part, but some of the init stuff is failing |
| [09:55:54] | Dibblah: | So you're using an initrd for a PXE / nfs root boot? |
| [09:56:10] | justinh: | not any more |
| [09:56:47] | justinh: | ubuntu sucks at netbooting. its kernel is just way too generic |
| [09:57:00] | Dibblah: | I assume the basics are OK – /etc/fstab looks right? |
| [09:57:05] | justinh: | yes |
| [09:57:27] | justinh: | I get a FATAL: error inserting battery.. (yada yada) invalid module format |
| [09:57:29] | Dibblah: | 192.168.0.2:/mnt/data/netboot/stbc2 / nfs nfsvers=3,no lock,noatime 0 1 |
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| [09:57:34] | Dibblah: | Or similar... |
| [09:57:54] | Dibblah: | Can you get a shell? |
| [09:58:19] | justinh: | nope |
| [09:58:58] | Dibblah: | Can you look at /var/log/messages on the root of the client's NFS share? |
| [09:59:02] | Dibblah: | Using the server... |
| [09:59:24] | Dibblah: | Betting it's just bad magic. |
| [09:59:55] | Dibblah: | Can't log in sounds... Somewhat odd. |
| [10:00:01] | Dibblah: | USB keyboard? |
| [10:00:07] | Dibblah: | Do you have a PS/2 one? |
| [10:00:27] | justinh: | Dec 9 09:54:22 core2frontend kernel: [ 34.382586] battery: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module |
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| [10:00:39] | justinh: | think you're right about the magic number stuff then |
| [10:00:57] | Dibblah: | If this was the Myth build, I'd suggest a distclean :) |
| [10:02:56] | Dibblah: | I don't understand unless you have a funky /lib/modules layout. |
| [10:03:07] | Dibblah: | If you compiled your own kernel, clean it out. |
| [10:03:14] | Dibblah: | Then make modules-install. |
| [10:03:35] | Flexy: | hmmm. I don't have the netboot stuff anymore. can't give you the configs... :/ |
| [10:06:01] | justinh: | Dibblah: I can't do a make modules-install on my backend it'll wreck it |
| [10:06:14] | Flexy: | yes, I remember that I need to do something with the /dev directory too, so that the stuff was found correctly. just can't remember what. I presume that I just moved a working with disk in machine /dev to the nfs root. Just can't remember if it was that simple |
| [10:06:20] | Dibblah: | justinh: Yes, you can. |
| [10:06:35] | Dibblah: | chroot into the netboot root. |
| [10:06:55] | Dibblah: | Hmm. Wait - |
| [10:07:03] | Dibblah: | It might detect the arch. |
| [10:08:00] | justinh: | there must be another way to replicate the kernel ubuntu uses by default but change it so it can netboot |
| [10:08:04] | Dibblah: | make modules_install ARCH=x86_64 |
| [10:08:06] | Dibblah: | I think. |
| [10:08:15] | clever_: | justinh: the ubuntu kernel doesnt need to be modifyed i beleive |
| [10:08:33] | clever_: | you can just change a setting in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf to make it nfs boot |
| [10:08:37] | clever_: | and rebuild the initrd |
| [10:08:53] | justinh: | the kernel I've got now was built using the config from /boot on the nfsroot, modified with menuconfig to make it netbootable |
| [10:08:56] | clever_: | it will include the needed things in the initrd which you load along with the existing kernel |
| [10:09:06] | justinh: | the only thing is the version numbers disagree |
| [10:09:24] | clever_: | i beleive you can use the existing kernel without any changes |
| [10:09:57] | justinh: | you can't, I've tried. won't work without an initrd and I spend all day farking about with that yesterday |
| [10:10:33] | clever_: | yeah it includes the needed stuff in the initrd |
| [10:10:44] | clever_: | so you need the initrd along with the kernel |
| [10:11:00] | justinh: | I managed to screw the hdd so it wouldn't boot by playing with initramfs-tools |
| [10:11:08] | clever_: | lol |
| [10:11:08] | justinh: | it just wasn't having any of it |
| [10:11:10] | Flexy: | kernel and initrd served via atftpd? |
| [10:11:14] | justinh: | yes |
| [10:11:57] | justinh: | the kernel panicked because it couldn't find eth0 |
| [10:11:59] | Flexy: | some setting in kernel about rootnfs... |
| [10:12:08] | justinh: | god I know this already |
| [10:12:13] | Flexy: | :D |
| [10:12:36] | Flexy: | ok, it panicks because the eth driver is not built in |
| [10:12:47] | justinh: | all I need to do is make the same kernel ubuntu needs by default but change it so nfsroot is enabled, and the network driver is built in |
| [10:12:54] | Flexy: | can't be as a module |
| [10:13:02] | Flexy: | right |
| [10:13:10] | justinh: | Flexy: that's what the initrd is supposed to get around |
| [10:13:16] | clever_: | if you get the initrd done up right it will get the module from there |
| [10:13:33] | justinh: | yeah try finding info about the initramfs-tools on gutsy |
| [10:13:39] | justinh: | they changed a lot of stuff |
| [10:13:57] | justinh: | it's not just as simple as changing a config file |
| [10:13:58] | Flexy: | justinh: but if you get the kernel to the machine via network, and the kernel takes over, trying to find the initrd, without eth... see the dilemma? |
| [10:14:29] | Dibblah: | Pretty sure justinh understands the issue, Flexy ;) |
| [10:14:36] | clever_: | justinh: i think you need to simply change the config for the initrd and edit the kernel args posibly in the netbooting grub |
| [10:14:37] | Flexy: | ok |
| [10:14:40] | justinh: | the initrd is supposed to have the module built in |
| [10:14:54] | justinh: | but it apparently doesn't |
| [10:14:57] | clever_: | Flexy: grub loads the kernel AND initrd before the kernel takes over |
| [10:15:05] | Flexy: | ok |
| [10:15:48] | Dibblah: | Is ubnut being clever and putting everything into the initrd? |
| [10:15:59] | justinh: | dunno |
| [10:16:13] | Dibblah: | And then redirecting any attempts for module load into the initrd? |
| [10:16:32] | clever_: | the initrd is used for modules before the real root is mounted |
| [10:16:35] | FinnTux: | /etc/initramfs-tools/modules <- add modules there and re-run mkinitramfs |
| [10:16:51] | justinh: | ah |
| [10:17:00] | justinh: | maybe I can salvage this from a chroot then |
| [10:17:02] | clever_: | theres also a config option in the file i mentioned for controling what modules get included |
| [10:17:09] | clever_: | you could include ALLL modules if you wanted |
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| [10:17:10] | FinnTux: | at least default debian kernel supports root on nfs out of the box |
| [10:17:36] | FinnTux: | I'm using debian etch with kernel 2.6.22 from backports.org |
| [10:17:41] | clever_: | i cant even get HOME on nfs to work right atm |
| [10:17:49] | clever_: | file locking is broken |
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| [10:18:05] | FinnTux: | I suppose it is the same in ubuntu |
| [10:18:25] | clever_: | ubuntu seems to have some extra stuff in its kernel |
| [10:18:42] | clever_: | for example the driver for my wifi card seems to be not part of the mainline kernel tree |
| [10:18:50] | clever_: | rtl818x.ko |
| [10:20:04] | FinnTux: | it might come from restricted drivers package |
| [10:20:21] | FinnTux: | linux-restricted-modules |
| [10:20:31] | clever_: | i got the source for the kernel |
| [10:20:44] | Dibblah: | clever_: You need portmap started. |
| [10:20:44] | clever_: | its under linux-2.6.../ubuntu/wireless/... |
| [10:20:53] | clever_: | Dibblah: i beleive it is running |
| [10:20:59] | ** clever_ checks the systems that had the problem ** | |
| [10:21:13] | clever_: | last person i talked to said nfs doesnt support locking at all |
| [10:21:13] | Dibblah: | You also need to be able to resolve bare hostnames for _both the client and the server_ from _both the client and the server_. |
| [10:21:20] | Dibblah: | Bull. |
| [10:21:33] | Dibblah: | It's been bull since NFS was born. |
| [10:21:46] | clever_: | i have the hostnames in /etc/hosts |
| [10:21:49] | clever_: | so i can just ssh media |
| [10:21:51] | clever_: | and it work |
| [10:21:59] | Dibblah: | On both hosts, FOR both hosts? |
| [10:22:12] | clever_: | nearly all hosts have nearly all others |
| [10:22:21] | clever_: | but i may not have had it back then when i had the problem |
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| [10:22:29] | Dibblah: | ie there needs to be a 192.168.0.x myinethostname |
| [10:22:38] | Dibblah: | NOT 127.0.0.1 |
| [10:22:40] | clever_: | also the media system has loopback as its own hostname/ip |
| [10:22:43] | clever_: | ahh |
| [10:22:46] | FinnTux: | clever_, use dpkg -S to find out where the driver came from |
| [10:22:50] | clever_: | i'll change those to the public up's |
| [10:24:31] | justinh: | bingo! |
| [10:24:38] | justinh: | time to go to Tesco |
| [10:25:35] | clever_: | whoa |
| [10:25:42] | clever_: | one of my boxes doesnt have itself in hosts at all(commented out) |
| [10:25:57] | Alxx: | heh, that might cause interesting issues! |
| [10:26:07] | clever_: | that box hasnt had home on nfs though |
| [10:26:14] | Alxx: | who am I? where I am? I don't know! argh! |
| [10:26:29] | clever_: | the media box has its /home/mythtv/ on a external usb drive |
| [10:26:41] | clever_: | which later became internal to the master and nfs'ed back to where it was |
| [10:26:55] | clever_: | but then all kinds of things started to freeze up |
| [10:27:27] | clever_: | all 3 of my main boxes using nfs now have there lan ip as themself in hosts |
| [10:27:46] | clever_: | and they should allready have eachother in hosts |
| [10:27:50] | clever_: | any remounting needed? |
| [10:28:27] | Dibblah: | ... Shouldn't be. |
| [10:28:41] | Dibblah: | But there may be caching issues depending on your resolver. |
| [10:28:50] | Dibblah: | Sorry – I use Windows too much :( |
| [10:28:53] | clever_: | dns cache is at the router/gateway |
| [10:29:00] | Dibblah: | No, it's not. |
| [10:29:13] | clever_: | im running bind in caching mode on that box:P |
| [10:29:21] | clever_: | so yes there is one there |
| [10:29:30] | Dibblah: | The resolver itsself caches both positive and negative responses from the DNS server. |
| [10:29:30] | clever_: | but there may be more local ones |
| [10:29:39] | Dibblah: | Resolver doesn't mean what you think it does. |
| [10:29:54] | clever_: | gethostname()? |
| [10:29:58] | Dibblah: | It's the DNS client portion. |
| [10:29:59] | Dibblah: | Yes. |
| [10:30:09] | clever_: | yeah but it can only cache within the proc |
| [10:30:23] | Dibblah: | Depends on the libc. |
| [10:30:30] | clever_: | having a system wide cache would lead to 1 bad user caching crap to mess root up |
| [10:30:33] | Dibblah: | Most it's global, AFAIK. |
| [10:30:49] | clever_: | but what keeps 1 user from messing with the cache of another? |
| [10:30:57] | Dibblah: | Nothing. |
| [10:30:59] | clever_: | lol |
| [10:31:09] | Dibblah: | The configuration of the resolver is global. |
| [10:31:17] | Dibblah: | And modifiable only by root. |
| [10:31:18] | clever_: | so i can change your telnet server adr to my spy:P |
| [10:31:22] | Dibblah: | So... Where's the issue? |
| [10:31:22] | Alxx: | hmm right. I've got guide data and some schedules set up but nothing appears in "upcoming recordings" |
| [10:31:29] | clever_: | Dibblah: but the cache itself? |
| [10:31:51] | Dibblah: | Alxx: First time setting up Myth? |
| [10:32:09] | Alxx: | Dibblah> nope, I've had it running or ages but upgrading borke it |
| [10:32:40] | Dibblah: | In mythtv-setup, check that the masterbackendIP is exactly the same (and an IP address, not a name) as the BackendIP. |
| [10:34:04] | Alxx: | that shouldn't have changeds.... |
| [10:34:07] | Alxx: | worth checking though |
| [10:38:43] | ** clever_ sets up a shared ccache folder over nfs to test locking ** | |
| [10:39:13] | clever_: | thats one of the progs that died with HOME(containing ccache dir) locked up |
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| [10:39:23] | Alxx: | heh, good shout – one of those IPs had reverted to 127.0.0.1 |
| [10:39:26] | clever_: | and it will help make the cache more usefull |
| [10:39:53] | clever_: | Alxx: also may help to glance over mysql.txt for any junk it added |
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| [10:40:06] | clever_: | my end keeps setting the uniq hostname override every now and then |
| [10:40:20] | clever_: | to the example one which winds up being default if i dont answer it |
| [10:40:32] | Alxx: | that all looks groovy |
| [10:40:47] | Alxx: | I have stuff listed in upcoming recordings now, cheers! |
| [10:40:48] | clever_: | which would cause it to think its a new box and reset everything to defaults |
| [10:44:22] | clever_: | a few warnings here about makefiles from the future:O |
| [10:44:39] | clever_: | dangit |
| [10:44:45] | clever_: | one of my ntp clients crashed again |
| [10:45:21] | clever_: | lol |
| [10:45:25] | clever_: | not even the server is up! |
| [10:47:41] | ** clever_ waits for it to resync ** | |
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| [10:50:07] | clever_: | ntp nearly locked in |
| [10:53:43] | clever_: | there |
| [10:53:48] | clever_: | 9719 ms diff in clock |
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| [12:01:01] | mzb_d800: | clever: the most common reason I've found for settings reset is (home) partition being full |
| [12:01:25] | clever: | my problem is the myth prog asking for the config on stdin |
| [12:01:33] | clever: | once my mythbackend had no stdin |
| [12:01:40] | clever: | so everything defaulted to the example |
| [12:01:48] | clever: | causing it to change the uniq hostname |
| [12:01:58] | mzb_d800: | check all the mysql.txt files on your system |
| [12:02:01] | clever: | also my mythwelcome is constantly asking that stuff on stdin causing the UI to lockup |
| [12:02:18] | clever: | and the mysql.txt is valid and mythwelcome works right 90% of the time |
| [12:02:25] | mzb_d800: | and DO set the unique hostname (although it should be auto) |
| [12:02:49] | clever: | im not setting it in any of my mysql.txt's |
| [12:02:57] | clever: | and i dont plan to change my hostnames on any boxes |
| [12:03:13] | mzb_d800: | I also suggest you set the same user+pass throughout your mythtv network ... there's something wrong somewhere imo |
| [12:03:29] | clever: | most of them are using the same name/pw i beleive |
| [12:03:43] | clever: | the problem is that the connection to the mysql server is a bit unstable atm |
| [12:03:58] | clever: | so mythwelcome thinks its down because its out for 10 seconds |
| [12:04:13] | clever: | then mythwelcome locks up waiting for input on stdin |
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| [12:04:17] | mzb_d800: | I didn't plan on changing my hostnames either, but explicitly setting it in mysql.txt removes the possibility of (various) errors |
| [12:05:21] | mzb_d800: | I suggest to you that you lock down the various auto settings to remove any possible ambiguity and work up |
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| [12:06:16] | clever: | the auto setting of the uniq hostname hasnt happened recently |
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| [12:06:23] | clever: | was just when i was first seting up that 1 host |
| [12:06:48] | mzb_d800: | iirc there is a wakeup command for the db server ... you might be able to get away with setting that to "sleep 10" |
| [12:07:41] | mzb_d800: | clever: as nice as the auto setting of the hostname sounds, I can tell you that it hasn't worked (consistently) in my experience |
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| [12:08:10] | clever: | leaving it blank in mysql.txt seems to allways make it use the system hostname |
| [12:08:14] | mzb_d800: | setting it manually removes the problem and allows you to work on the next one ;) |
| [12:08:52] | mzb_d800: | as I say ... nice in theory ... hasn't always worked for me |
| [12:09:12] | clever: | my master backend is running in a diff timezone then local |
| [12:09:26] | clever: | for awhile i just put a TZ wraper arround the rest of my fe's to make it work |
| [12:09:35] | clever: | but i got tired of the times being off by 2 hours |
| [12:09:58] | clever: | so i shifted the mysql data to nfs and converted the mysqld on my laptop to serve it from the proper timezone |
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| [12:10:32] | clever: | at the time the laptop had a cracked lcd and was just on ethernet |
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| [12:10:37] | clever: | but ive fixed the panel |
| [12:10:48] | clever: | so now the main mysql server is on wifi and moving(and the driver is unstable) |
| [12:12:22] | mzb_d800: | not enough info to understand that statement |
| [12:12:53] | clever: | the master and mysql arent on the same box |
| [12:13:01] | clever: | and theres an unstable wifi between them |
| [12:13:05] | mzb_d800: | mine either |
| [12:13:12] | Dibblah: | clever: If the backend / frontend don't have stdin, it won't ask, I believe. |
| [12:13:28] | clever: | Dibblah: the mythbackend on my dads box was starting from init.d |
| [12:13:40] | clever: | and it appears to have went with the example/default for everythign when it asked |
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| [12:14:21] | mzb_d800: | afaik, the mysql connection *needs* to be stable ... however, iirc, there is a setting somewhere about the wait + number of retries to reach the sql server |
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| [12:14:55] | clever: | my master backend is also getting into some partial crash now |
| [12:15:05] | clever: | its eating 100% cpu but still responding normaly |
| [12:15:24] | mzb_d800: | are any of your machines overclocked? |
| [12:15:34] | clever: | none are overclocked |
| [12:15:41] | clever: | and the mysql is actualy UNDER clocked most of the time |
| [12:15:58] | mzb_d800: | err |
| [12:16:12] | clever: | it can change the clock freq while running to save batery power/heat |
| [12:16:14] | justinh: | ooo so now my new frontend netboots but doesn't get all the way. wonder if that's cos the init process is reinitialising ethernet and making root disappear |
| [12:16:34] | clever: | justdave: ive heard you need to edit the network settings to eth0 isnt managed by the system |
| [12:16:40] | clever: | justinh: i mean |
| [12:16:46] | justinh: | yeah I read that |
| [12:16:51] | clever: | normaly durring bootup it resets all the cards |
| [12:16:57] | justinh: | but /etc/network/interfaces doesn't have eth0 in there |
| [12:17:02] | mzb_d800: | ok, so it's not "under-clocked", it frequency-regulated by something like powernowd ? |
| [12:17:13] | clever: | find the name of the card while booting up(go into su maybe) |
| [12:17:26] | justinh: | I'll dig in the log |
| [12:17:31] | clever: | mzb_d800: yep powernowd(but thats actualy off and doing it manualy thru the cli prog) |
| [12:17:32] | justinh: | no console without a rootfs see |
| [12:17:50] | clever: | justinh: the /dev/console needs to exist in the initrd |
| [12:17:58] | mzb_d800: | clever: so iwo, it's not under|over clocked ;P |
| [12:17:59] | clever: | thats the one that matters for the bootup |
| [12:18:14] | clever: | mzb_d800: but it is running under the normal speed:P |
| [12:18:21] | clever: | depends on how you define underclocked |
| [12:18:52] | justinh: | clever: I won't need it if I can get this to work :) |
| [12:18:56] | mzb_d800: | "non-standard" clock speed — controlled by hardware rather than software |
| [12:19:15] | mzb_d800: | (ie. Linux can|can't tell what the real speed of the system is) |
| [12:19:35] | clever: | justinh: the kernel opens /dev/console BEFORE init runs which when your using an initrd winds up looking in the initrd |
| [12:19:42] | clever: | ahh |
| [12:20:01] | clever: | mzb_d800: yeah /proc/cpuinfo shows a diff speed when i change it |
| [12:20:17] | mzb_d800: | by software! |
| [12:20:17] | clever: | and it locks up solid for 1.5 seconds any time i change the cpu speed |
| [12:20:30] | clever: | feels like its counting the bogomips again and again |
| [12:20:34] | mzb_d800: | sounds wrong |
| [12:20:39] | clever: | was damn anoying before i learned to control it |
| [12:20:46] | clever: | ls would increase cpu usage so it goes up |
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| [12:20:54] | clever: | then just as i type a cd it would go back down and locku |
| [12:20:55] | clever: | p |
| [12:21:15] | mzb_d800: | sounds totally misconfigured |
| [12:21:17] | clever: | it also lost bytes from the mouse/keyboard durring that causing the mouse to jump about |
| [12:21:28] | Dabian: | OK, #LIRC is almost empty ... |
| [12:21:31] | clever: | a few tweaks to the settings made it change less often |
| [12:21:34] | mzb_d800: | cpu type + model? |
| [12:21:36] | clever: | making it alot better |
| [12:21:54] | clever: | model name : Pentium III (Coppermine) |
| [12:21:57] | clever: | flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse |
| [12:22:03] | clever: | 700mhz/1ghz |
| [12:22:11] | mzb_d800: | heh |
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| [12:22:16] | clever: | dell d600 laptop |
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| [12:22:31] | mzb_d800: | afaik, coppermine does not have frequency stepping |
| [12:22:36] | clever: | the newer dell can do more then 2 speeds(500mhz thru 1.6ghz i think and many others) |
| [12:22:37] | mzb_d800: | ah |
| [12:22:54] | clever: | stepping : 10 |
| [12:23:27] | clever: | the speed of the older dell is noticably diff when i change the freq |
| [12:23:38] | mzb_d800: | lapto |
| [12:23:38] | mzb_d800: | p |
| [12:23:39] | mzb_d800: | . |
| [12:23:39] | mzb_d800: | OS? |
| [12:23:39] | Dabian: | I bought Hauppauge MCE KIT ... it turns that it ships with a different remote than the PVR-350 I had before.. Apparently it uses the lirc_mceusb2 driver, however, I cannot get it working .. as soon as I run irx, lird dies. Any insight or ideas on this topic? |
| [12:23:39] | clever: | but i also get errors on every change |
| [12:23:48] | clever: | mzb_d800: ubuntu 7.10 right now |
| [12:23:59] | Dabian: | I have run through various manuals and wikis but I haven't found anything to solve my problem. I'm on Ubuntu gutsy gibbon. |
| [12:24:06] | clever: | mzb_d800: [215068.692000] cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0 |
| [12:24:19] | clever: | mzb_d800: i get that at every change in speed(but it allways seems to work anyway) |
| [12:24:36] | mzb_d800: | iirc, coppermine does not do freq. stepping .... ymmv |
| [12:25:01] | justinh: | riiight let's see wtf is up with this |
| [12:25:05] | clever: | mzb_d800: yet the drivers in ubuntu think it can and it is noticaly faster/hotter in 1ghz mode |
| [12:25:24] | clever: | mzb_d800: in 700mhz at 100% load the cpu fan rarely comes on(not enough heat output) |
| [12:25:31] | justinh: | btw, thanks FinnTux – putting the sky2 module in the modules config for initramfs-tools fixed it. be nice if the damn howto said to do that! |
| [12:25:38] | clever: | mzb_d800: in 1ghz the fan is on 24/7 and sometimes even hits the 2nd speed from extra heat |
| [12:25:58] | mzb_d800: | either way, I suggest you fix that problem before you start blaming mythtv|NFS for problems that are obviously time(out) related |
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| [12:26:12] | clever: | i have automatic speed changing off atm |
| [12:26:14] | mzb_d800: | fan speed != cpu speed |
| [12:26:21] | clever: | i know |
| [12:26:27] | clever: | but the fan speed is related to heat output |
| [12:26:35] | clever: | and heat output is related to the freq and load |
| [12:26:43] | mzb_d800: | no necessarily ... that's another story |
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| [12:26:47] | mzb_d800: | s/not |
| [12:26:52] | clever: | the bios controls the fan based on heat |
| [12:26:55] | clever: | <60 and it goes off |
| [12:27:00] | clever: | >80 and it goes to speed 1 |
| [12:27:03] | mzb_d800: | not necessarily |
| [12:27:14] | clever: | ive watched acpi -V while heating it and it turns on right at 80 |
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| [12:27:29] | clever: | somewhere past 80 it goes into a 2nd speed |
| [12:27:40] | clever: | and rarely does it ever hit speed 3(jet engine:P) |
| [12:28:04] | mzb_d800: | it still does not necessarily happen that way ... and your evidence does not necessarily indicate that the cpu is changing speed |
| [12:28:19] | mzb_d800: | although I am inclined to believe your conclusions |
| [12:28:24] | clever: | also if i 'time someprog' which does most of its work in cpu |
| [12:28:30] | clever: | it does go faster in the higher speed |
| [12:28:41] | clever: | and some video decoding works smoother in the higher speed |
| [12:29:06] | justinh: | hmm I need to video this boot process & see where it's going wrong |
| [12:29:09] | mzb_d800: | ok ... so have you identified which programme you're using for freq. changes? |
| [12:29:10] | clever: | woot |
| [12:29:14] | clever: | 500 core dumps in my home:P |
| [12:29:22] | clever: | echo core*|wc -w |
| [12:29:22] | clever: | 57 |
| [12:29:34] | clever: | mythshutdown seems to have a bowel problem:P |
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| [12:29:53] | mzb_d800: | . |
| [12:29:55] | clever: | mzb_d800: cpufreq-selector and the gnome-panel applet(both write to a /sys file) |
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| [12:30:06] | clever: | mzb_d800: and i can manualy change the speed with an echo > /sys/ |
| [12:30:14] | mzb_d800: | powernowd |
| [12:30:25] | clever: | powernowd is off because i dont need the automated speed changes |
| [12:30:27] | mzb_d800: | look at the manual |
| [12:30:42] | clever: | and it also uses the /sys/ file for the actual control |
| [12:30:42] | mzb_d800: | then you will find out that it doesn't work for dells |
| [12:30:51] | mzb_d800: | and that you need i8kutils |
| [12:30:55] | clever: | yet it seems to be working |
| [12:30:58] | mzb_d800: | and a custom heat profile |
| [12:31:20] | mzb_d800: | do some more research |
| [12:31:34] | Dabian: | I bought Hauppauge MCE KIT ... it turns that it ships with a different remote than the PVR-350 I had before.. Apparently it uses the lirc_mceusb2 driver, however, I cannot get it working .. as soon as I run irx, lird dies. I have run through various manuals and wikis but I haven't found anything to solve my problem. I'm on Ubuntu gutsy gibbon – any ideas or points to documentation? |
| [12:31:35] | clever: | its a latitude laptop |
| [12:31:37] | mzb_d800: | and double check my nick ;) |
| [12:31:46] | clever: | but the freq changing isnt part of the mysql problem |
| [12:31:53] | clever: | freq isnt changing very often |
| [12:32:16] | clever: | lol |
| [12:32:17] | mzb_d800: | it can be if it's affecting time ... particularly if you're adding NFS to the equation |
| [12:32:28] | clever: | it also runs ntp |
| [12:32:38] | clever: | it was off by about 9 seconds after ntp being dead for a day |
| [12:32:53] | mzb_d800: | you're not listening |
| [12:32:58] | clever: | i think the clock also stops when changing freq but i dont change freq often enough |
| [12:33:41] | clever: | clock is off by 6ms acording to ntp |
| [12:34:34] | clever: | mysql is accessing the data files over nfs and receiving the querys allmost allways thru the network |
| [12:35:10] | clever: | and it worked fine doing that over ethernet |
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| [12:38:33] | justinh: | something in init is trying to change the interface name from eth0 to eth1 |
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| [12:39:39] | clever: | more splity splity |
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| [12:40:03] | jduggan: | just a bit |
| [12:40:08] | mzb_d800: | justinh: is the os trying to load the nic driver? .... ie. perhaps it's loading during init, seeing eth0 and creating a new interface? |
| [12:40:31] | mzb_d800: | perhaps blacklisting the module would help? |
| [12:40:33] | Dabian: | I bought Hauppauge MCE KIT ... it turns that it ships with a different remote than the PVR-350 I had before.. Apparently it uses the lirc_mceusb2 driver, however, I cannot get it working .. as soon as I run irx, lird dies. I have run through various manuals and wikis but I haven't found anything to solve my problem. I'm on Ubuntu gutsy gibbon – any ideas or points to documentation? |
| [12:40:53] | clever: | my mythshutdown is segfaulting |
| [12:40:59] | clever: | and mythwelcome is running it constantly |
| [12:41:04] | Dabian: | Ehehe? :)) |
| [12:41:06] | clever: | so my home dir is overflowing with core dumps |
| [12:41:23] | Dabian: | clever: Maybe you're too clever to set it up properly? :) |
| [12:41:34] | clever: | its been working fine until i upgraded it |
| [12:41:49] | clever: | Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. |
| [12:41:49] | clever: | #0 0xb651dac0 in QMutex::lock () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| [12:42:00] | Dabian: | clever: Why did you upgrade then? |
| [12:42:09] | clever: | because the code was a month old |
| [12:42:29] | Dabian: | clever: Ahh .. couldn't stand the smell, ey? |
| [12:42:33] | clever: | and i wanted to fix a bug of the setup in mythfrontend seg faulting(it was fixed in future versions of svn) |
| [12:42:35] | justinh: | mzb_d800: trying blacklisting the module now |
| [12:43:17] | justinh: | nope |
| [12:43:51] | justinh: | still no log on the nfsroot |
| [12:44:01] | clever: | stick a proper /dev/ttyS0 on both the rootfs and the initrd image and try serial console maybe? |
| [12:44:13] | justinh: | serial? don't have a serial cable |
| [12:44:30] | clever: | then make a normal /dev/console char dev in the initrd |
| [12:44:45] | clever: | or check that one is there allready |
| [12:45:05] | clever: | my ubuntu initrd lacks a /dev/ completely |
| [12:45:21] | clever: | and the init script makes it at startup |
| [12:45:21] | clever: | mknod /dev/console c 5 1 |
| [12:45:35] | clever: | after throwing a tmpfs over /dev/ |
| [12:45:55] | clever: | try adding debug to the kernel args |
| [12:46:00] | justinh: | activating swap?! wtf? :-\ |
| [12:46:07] | clever: | that causes it to dump stdout to /tmp/initramfs.debug |
| [12:46:18] | clever: | (atleast in my initrd it does) |
| [12:46:27] | clever: | remove your swap lines from fstab |
| [12:46:57] | justinh: | weird. it's putting a console login up before stuff like hald & networkmanager |
| [12:47:01] | mzb_d800: | err ... yeah, don't swap over nfs |
| [12:47:06] | justinh: | there is no swap in the fstab |
| [12:47:11] | Dabian: | I bought Hauppauge MCE KIT ... it turns that it ships with a different remote than the PVR-350 I had before.. Apparently it uses the lirc_mceusb2 driver, however, I cannot get it working .. as soon as I run irx, lird dies. I have run through various manuals and wikis but I haven't found anything to solve my problem. I'm on Ubuntu gutsy gibbon – any ideas or points to documentation? |
| [12:47:28] | clever: | mzb_d800: ive tried swap over nfs and yes it hardlocks:P |
| [12:47:38] | clever: | mzb_d800: swap over nbd though works |
| [12:47:39] | mzb_d800: | use nbd (or similar) |
| [12:48:01] | clever: | but it wont be able to hibernate |
| [12:48:23] | mzb_d800: | it can if you disable swap during hibernate |
| [12:48:38] | clever: | hibernate stores ram in swap |
| [12:48:40] | justinh: | argghhh |
| [12:48:47] | clever: | without swap it wont work |
| [12:48:48] | justinh: | fucking stupidbuntu piece of crap! |
| [12:49:10] | justinh: | there is no swap in fstab so WTF is it trying to activate a swap? |
| [12:49:16] | clever: | right now i have normal ubuntu installs sharing a /bin/ of mythtv over nfs |
| [12:49:19] | justinh: | linux can work without swap, I've done it before |
| [12:49:30] | clever: | yeah but can it hibernate withotu swap? |
| [12:49:34] | mzb_d800: | clever: you're talking about suspend to disk, not suspend to ram |
| [12:49:37] | justinh: | I don't care |
| [12:49:54] | clever: | mzb_d800: hibernate is to disk(long term 0 power usage) |
| [12:50:22] | mzb_d800: | ok, my mistake in terminology |
| [12:50:26] | ** justinh smacks Gutsy with a noobish trout very, VERY hard. linuxfornoobs (tm) ** | |
| [12:50:34] | mzb_d800: | heh |
| [12:50:39] | justinh: | ubuntu != linux |
| [12:50:56] | clever: | its got the linux kernel:P |
| [12:51:06] | justinh: | yeah and there the similarity ends |
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| [12:51:33] | mzb_d800: | bottom line is that justinh is right, you don't need swap if you've got enough RAM do to the job |
| [12:51:57] | justinh: | you know, if I just had a 4GB usb flash stick I could have had that up & running now. small price to pay |
| [12:52:01] | clever: | ive shut swap off several times in my laptop |
| [12:52:56] | mzb_d800: | justinh: 2GB is more than enough ;) |
| [12:52:57] | justinh: | according to my nfs server syslog, it's mounting / ok |
| [12:53:20] | justinh: | something else must be killing the network |
| [12:53:26] | rooaus: | #4222 committed, cool. |
| [12:53:34] | mzb_d800: | justinh: this all sounds very familiar ... I just wish I could remember the symptoms |
| [12:54:11] | mzb_d800: | you're running ubuntu? |
| [12:54:17] | justinh: | maybe the initrd script needs a tweak |
| [12:54:29] | mzb_d800: | do you have *any* eth settings? |
| [12:54:35] | justinh: | yeah |
| [12:54:41] | justinh: | or rather no |
| [12:54:44] | justinh: | not eth0 settings |
| [12:54:56] | justinh: | I can sit in the nfsroot etc dir and fgrep eth0 all I like |
| [12:54:56] | mzb_d800: | make a backup of the file and delete it |
| [12:55:31] | mzb_d800: | if that doesn't work, try setting eth0 and eth1 as "manual" |
| [12:55:47] | mzb_d800: | (and then don't declare the settings) |
| [12:56:23] | mzb_d800: | eg: iface eth0 inet manual |
| [12:56:27] | mzb_d800: | (iirc) |
| [12:56:30] | xand: | no, static |
| [12:56:35] | xand: | emr. |
| [12:56:37] | xand: | erm. |
| [12:56:48] | justinh: | the stuff I was following initially said things about eth0 being initialised and / disappearing – their fix was to take eth0 out of /etc/network/interfaces |
| [12:57:00] | mzb_d800: | no, static will re-declare the interface |
| [12:57:18] | justinh: | but in gutsy it's not even there |
| [12:57:40] | mzb_d800: | my suggestion is to create a place-holder for the interface, but keep the declaration empty |
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| [12:57:57] | mzb_d800: | the only way you can do that is with the "manual" keyword |
| [12:58:08] | xand: | if you're booting from the network, you should have just "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in interfaces, but not "auto eth0" |
| [12:58:16] | mzb_d800: | "static" requires that the stanza includes the inet address |
| [12:59:07] | mzb_d800: | no, dhcp declaration will require interface to be redifined ... which is wrong, because the interface already exists |
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| [12:59:19] | xand: | no, it's right and it works :P |
| [12:59:21] | ** justinh renames 'ubuntu' to 'You-C**T-U" ** | |
| [12:59:27] | mzb_d800: | (and it's what the root device relies on) |
| [12:59:33] | rooaus: | rofl |
| [13:00:13] | xand: | I have a machine that boots debian from the network... it has the lines for lo and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" and nothing else, and works fine |
| [13:00:30] | justinh: | huh? there's a udev rule for eth0 |
| [13:00:37] | xand: | the important thing is to remove auto eth0 |
| [13:01:07] | justinh: | eth0 isn't mentioned in the 'interfaces' file.. how many more times? |
| [13:01:22] | xand: | why not? |
| [13:01:23] | mzb_d800: | interesting, I also had a netbooted debian system (sid) about 12mths ago (?) which refused to boot with a dhcp declaration |
| [13:01:28] | justinh: | oh wait. I still have a dhcp client going on |
| [13:01:38] | mzb_d800: | :) |
| [13:01:44] | xand: | my doesn't work without eth0 being there |
| [13:02:24] | xand: | it'll start to boot, then stop working |
| [13:02:24] | justinh: | oh damn. it's commented out in dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| [13:02:30] | mzb_d800: | justinh: I'll double check my backups if you get desperate ... but it might cost you a (virtual) beer ;) |
| [13:02:43] | justinh: | hold on maybe that's why it's not worky. eth0 isn't in /etc/network/interfaces |
| [13:02:52] | xand: | add the line I pasted c.c |
| [13:03:22] | ** xand wishes the weather would stop changing so he didn't keep having to turn the light on and off ** | |
| [13:03:53] | rooaus: | justinh: Good luck, time for bed as I fly out to Taiwan in the morning. |
| [13:04:31] | mzb_d800: | heh ... had power off earlier during thunder storm ... very happy to see the UPS powered the router long enough, and that the laptop survived ;) |
| [13:04:47] | mzb_d800: | rooaus: nice :) ... going to LCA? |
| [13:05:26] | mzb_d800: | (and if so|not, are you going to help LCA bid for Hobart 2009?;))) |
| [13:06:43] | rooaus: | mzb_d800: No, off to TSMC. Hadn't really thought about LCA at all. :) |
| [13:07:14] | rooaus: | night all |
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| [13:07:55] | Dabian: | xand: Why not have myth control your light then? |
| [13:08:18] | mzb_d800: | heh |
| [13:08:31] | xand: | sounds like that might make me use mythfrontend which I'd rather not :D |
| [13:08:37] | mzb_d800: | X10 or IR ;) |
| [13:08:40] | mzb_d800: | ? |
| [13:09:14] | mzb_d800: | nothing (directly) to do with mythtv |
| [13:10:29] | justinh: | it's aliiiiiive! it's aliiiiive! |
| [13:10:36] | mzb_d800: | :) |
| [13:10:55] | mzb_d800: | I can sleep easy then ;) |
| [13:11:02] | justinh: | funny but adding stuff about eth0 in network/interfaces did the job |
| [13:11:34] | justinh: | it's damn slow though. need to scroll up & see what the option was for mounting / |
| [13:12:13] | mzb_d800: | let me know if you need my netbooting settings from 12mths ago |
| [13:12:23] | Dabian: | I bought Hauppauge MCE KIT ... it turns that it ships with a different remote than the PVR-350 I had before.. Apparently it uses the lirc_mceusb2 driver, however, I cannot get it working .. as soon as I run irx, lird dies. I have run through various manuals and wikis but I haven't found anything to solve my problem. I'm on Ubuntu gutsy gibbon – any ideas or points to documentation? |
| [13:12:27] | mzb_d800: | I've got them on dvd somewhere |
| [13:12:34] | justinh: | cheers for the offer mzb_d800 :) |
| [13:12:39] | mzb_d800: | np |
| [13:13:09] | mzb_d800: | I had a p2–350 working *very* nicely on netboot |
| [13:13:26] | mzb_d800: | (better than the real thing;) |
| [13:13:58] | mzb_d800: | ... except that when I was working on the server g/f got angry :| |
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| [13:14:11] | mzb_d800: | speaking of which ... time to cater to g/f's needs |
| [13:14:14] | mzb_d800: | gnite all |
| [13:14:24] | justinh: | gnite |
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| [13:16:43] | justinh: | stupif ****ing thing is still 'activating swap'. just how retarded is this? |
| [13:21:43] | justinh: | WOW |
| [13:21:43] | justinh: | fixed fstab with a 'nolock' and it's booting in 40s |
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| [13:24:17] | justinh: | that 40s is from powered down to mythfrontend menu |
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| [13:24:54] | Alxx: | not bad.... |
| [13:25:14] | Alxx: | thinking about it my mythfrontend box tages ages to mount nfs too... |
| [13:25:25] | Alxx: | I just don't boot it often :) |
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| [13:25:54] | xand: | mine sometimes fails to mount nfs and i have to do it manually :S |
| [13:26:00] | xand: | don't boot it often either |
| [13:26:31] | Alxx: | I must get round to setting my second DVB card up at some point.. |
| [13:26:56] | Dabian: | Hauppauge MCE KIT ...Problems with the remote! I have run through various manuals and wikis but I haven't found anything to solve my problem. I'm on Ubuntu gutsy gibbon – any ideas or points to documentation? |
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| [13:27:48] | xand: | the only reason i shut it down was to install second dvb card :) |
| [13:28:02] | xand: | got a dual tuner one |
| [13:28:08] | Dabian: | Yeah |
| [13:28:11] | Dabian: | PVR-500! |
| [13:28:20] | sebrock: | in the theme xmls, what is the name of the little preview video in "Watch recordsing", I need to change the placement of this |
| [13:28:27] | Dabian: | I wanted one with remote .. and mce-kit seemed to have remote ... |
| [13:28:43] | Dabian: | I had no idea it would be a "windows-remote" |
| [13:28:46] | xand: | both of mine have remotes, I don't use either c.c |
| [13:28:58] | Dabian: | (The picure showed the good ole remote) |
| [13:29:02] | xand: | it's just a backend machine |
| [13:29:06] | xand: | o.O |
| [13:30:13] | justinh: | suppose now it's time to do battle with sudo shutdown |
| [13:30:48] | sebrock: | or any other information on how to place it somewhere else |
| [13:32:01] | Dabian: | I just use one computer for Myth .. I have a couple of servers, but most of them are just turned off most of the time. |
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| [13:38:46] | sebrock: | hmm, is iteven possible to change the placement of the ppreview? |
| [13:42:08] | justinh: | sebrock: gimme a sec |
| [13:42:14] | justinh: | sebrock: <container name="current_video"> |
| [13:43:07] | justinh: | in the EPG with video section in ui.xml ^^ |
| [13:43:07] | justinh: | and in the 'watch recordings' screen it's <container name="video"> |
| [13:43:35] | justinh: | sebrock: you get that? dunno if you can see this cos of all the splitting of nets |
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| [13:56:28] | sebrock: | thank you justinh |
| [13:57:19] | justinh: | np |
| [13:57:41] | justinh: | bugger. this ondigital remote with flip open qwerty keyboard can't be reliably learned with irrecord :( |
| [13:57:48] | justinh: | that was a waste of money |
| [13:58:17] | justinh: | let's see what's inside the included serial receiver then |
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| [14:01:55] | justinh: | hmmm theres a micro in that thar box |
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| [14:06:37] | black_Nightmare_: | hey |
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| [14:12:57] | sebrock: | justinh, the numbers in the <container name="video"> is the first two placement and the last two width and height? |
| [14:13:24] | sebrock: | nevermind, has to be... I now see they are 160 by 90 |
| [14:13:34] | sebrock: | as is my screen :D |
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| [14:20:40] | justinh: | I can't remember. some containers work in different ways to others. I mean, some you specify the X & Y start as well as the X & Y end instead of size IIRC |
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| [14:23:45] | justinh: | it's usually easy to tell ;) |
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| [14:31:38] | levander: | I'm looking at this wireless-N PCI card. It says it's PCI 2.3. That means it's not gonna work with the PCI 2.1 slots on the motherboard of this old computer I got? |
| [14:31:59] | levander: | I've just never seen a PCI card not work in a given PCI slot because of the PCI spec. |
| [14:32:29] | xand: | what's that got to do with mythtv? |
| [14:32:48] | levander: | I want to use the wireless card for streaming Myth. |
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| [14:33:11] | xand: | still not really relevant, but don't think there's any such thing as pci 2.3 |
| [14:33:24] | xand: | oh |
| [14:34:08] | xand: | 2.3 should work with a 2.1 slot. |
| [14:34:14] | xand: | but not a 2.0 slot |
| [14:34:26] | xand: | I think |
| [14:34:32] | levander: | xand: Where do you see that? Are you looking at it online? |
| [14:34:41] | xand: | older PCI slots are the "wrong way round" |
| [14:34:47] | xand: | ask in ##hardware anyway |
| [14:34:59] | levander: | xand: No answer to the question in #hardware, I tried. |
| [14:35:09] | levander: | Real experts are in that room sometimes, but not always. |
| [14:37:45] | xand: | I guess if the PC is old it might not work, don't kno |
| [14:37:59] | levander: | xand: Yeah, I'm still reading about it. |
| [14:38:01] | levander: | Thanks. |
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| [14:57:34] | sebrock: | is textarea "subdescr" the info about the tv-program? |
| [14:57:39] | sebrock: | in UI |
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| [14:59:53] | sebrock: | nothing happens when I change the parameters... |
| [15:00:00] | sebrock: | and I deleted themecache aswell |
| [15:02:47] | sebrock: | anybody knows why nothing happens? |
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| [15:05:54] | sebrock: | or could anyone explain how to see changes in a theme right away? Nothing happens when I change the placements... |
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| [15:30:04] | jams: | sebrock- if it's theme.xml you have to restart myth all the other xml files only require going back to the menu and reentering the screen. |
| [15:32:33] | sebrock: | jams, I restated it and removed .themescache... nothing :( |
| [15:32:39] | sebrock: | its ui.xml |
| [15:34:00] | jams: | what you you trying to change |
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| [15:35:09] | sebrock: | multiple things, but right now its what I believe is the description of tv shows in "Watch a recording" |
| [15:35:16] | sebrock: | "subdescr" |
| [15:35:48] | sebrock: | I want the textarea to be more to the left and not over the whole screen |
| [15:36:02] | jams: | which theme? |
| [15:36:38] | sebrock: | parody |
| [15:37:11] | sebrock: | I was able to change the position of the video preview, but every other thing doesnt make any changes at all |
| [15:37:32] | jams: | well idon't have that one installed. but you the things you want to change will be the contain program_info_play |
| [15:38:10] | jams: | container program_info_play |
| [15:38:59] | jams: | sebrock- got a link for trhe eheme |
| [15:39:03] | jams: | the theme |
| [15:39:54] | sebrock: | jams, http://www.thisclicks.com/assets/mythTV/ |
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| [15:41:13] | jams: | yep starting at line 1237 |
| [15:43:23] | jams: | sebrock- you have the video preview enabled? |
| [15:44:02] | sebrock: | yes. that one worked |
| [15:44:20] | sebrock: | it the tv show description area I would like to alter |
| [15:45:44] | jams: | sebrock- do you see that altarea tage for title? you would also need to add that to the subdescr |
| [15:46:02] | jams: | area is for withouth the video altarea is with the video |
| [15:46:13] | jams: | area is for without the video, altarea is with the video |
| [15:46:48] | sebrock: | aha thanks gonna check it out |
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| [15:48:41] | jams: | sebrock- i'm leaving in a bit..anything else you want to change? |
| [15:49:00] | sebrock: | I hope I can manage, didnt know about the alterarea |
| [15:49:06] | sebrock: | thank you |
| [15:49:41] | jams: | some screens are straightforward some are not |
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| [15:59:24] | sebrock: | no jams, did not do anything :/ |
| [16:00:00] | DustyBin: | are there any security issues if you run mythweb unencrypted? would mythweb have any benefit if run on a SSL port ? |
| [16:00:30] | sebrock: | mm nevermind... I got the spelling wrong |
| [16:00:46] | xand: | DustyBin: depends on whether the machine is accesible from the internet? |
| [16:00:57] | DustyBin: | yes the machine will be accessable from the internet |
| [16:01:27] | xand: | use apache-ssl and restrict access to the mythweb dir |
| [16:01:30] | xand: | using apache |
| [16:01:51] | DustyBin: | if a hacker sniffed my mythweb traffic, does the data contain some sensitive information, like passwords etc ? |
| [16:02:05] | sebrock: | no it actually doesnt do anything... damn |
| [16:02:21] | xand: | DustyBin: do you enter a password in your webbrowser to access mythtweb? |
| [16:02:31] | DustyBin: | yes using .htaccess digest |
| [16:02:38] | xand: | yes then |
| [16:02:49] | xand: | if you don't use ssl, it'll be sent in plaintext |
| [16:02:58] | kdubya: | why be paranoid |
| [16:02:59] | DustyBin: | i thought that password is encrypted once its sent over the net? |
| [16:03:11] | xand: | so it would in theoriy be possible to sniff, but doesn't mean anyone would bother :P |
| [16:03:15] | kdubya: | what the hell traffic do you have going to your HTPC that a hacker would want |
| [16:03:20] | xand: | DustyBin: not if you don't use SSL |
| [16:03:24] | xand: | that's what SSL is for! |
| [16:03:45] | DustyBin: | i thought the whole idea of digest was encryption ? |
| [16:03:52] | DustyBin: | auth basic = no encrytion |
| [16:04:01] | DustyBin: | auth digest = encrption |
| [16:04:04] | xand: | erm |
| [16:05:09] | xand: | well ok, I missed that bit |
| [16:05:47] | sebrock: | Hmmm, nothing happens when I change stuff in ui.xml |
| [16:07:34] | DustyBin: | xand: only a hash is sent over the network with digest |
| [16:07:47] | xand: | ok |
| [16:08:00] | DustyBin: | that means if i hacker sniffed your hash, he might smoke it |
| [16:09:02] | DustyBin: | kbudya: considering im running zoneminder what has cameras of my house and x10 to control applicances in my house remotely, security is a issue... |
| [16:09:29] | xand: | DustyBin: what reason do you have not to use ssl? |
| [16:09:53] | xand: | anyway, you said for mythtweb, not that stuff |
| [16:09:59] | DustyBin: | i could use ssl but its only designed for 1 ip per server |
| [16:10:04] | DustyBin: | u cant really use vhosts with it |
| [16:10:22] | DustyBin: | its for everything |
| [16:10:55] | xand: | you need to use vhosts for that? |
| [16:11:05] | DustyBin: | no i dont, but i like vhosts |
| [16:11:13] | DustyBin: | its nice and neat when i type: mythtv.xxxxxx.net |
| [16:11:17] | DustyBin: | zm.xxxxxxx.net |
| [16:11:44] | DustyBin: | i could run ssl on the web root www |
| [16:11:55] | DustyBin: | and just click into the dirs |
| [16:12:08] | DustyBin: | and connect with https://xxxxxxxx.net |
| [16:12:33] | xand: | get more IP addresses :p |
| [16:12:42] | DustyBin: | aye good idea! |
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| [16:23:42] | sebrock: | why does my ui.xml include multiple entries for almost all containers? |
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| [16:29:26] | sebrock: | this is just strange now |
| [16:30:44] | quicksilver: | ok, that's odd. |
| [16:30:57] | quicksilver: | I'm just trying to flag out beginnings and ends of recordings in edit mode |
| [16:31:02] | quicksilver: | to archive them neatly |
| [16:31:07] | jams: | sebrock- like what? |
| [16:31:11] | quicksilver: | seems that some of my recordings don't have seektables |
| [16:31:18] | sebrock: | jams, have you downloaded the theme? |
| [16:31:23] | jams: | yep |
| [16:31:23] | quicksilver: | seems like at a particular point in time, they all stopped getting seektables |
| [16:31:32] | sebrock: | jams, look at all entries they are there multiple times |
| [16:31:40] | sebrock: | like subdescr is there 6 times |
| [16:31:49] | sebrock: | doesnt that overwrite the setting all the time? |
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| [16:33:03] | jams: | sebrock- they are in different containers so no it doesn't overwrite the settings |
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| [16:33:20] | sebrock: | jams, looks to me as they are the same? |
| [16:33:26] | sebrock: | contaner name are the same? |
| [16:33:42] | jams: | got line numbers? |
| [16:33:58] | sebrock: | which one should I alter? I tried putting <altarea> and it doesnt make any diff |
| [16:34:00] | sebrock: | yes |
| [16:35:54] | jams: | for the watch recordings screen you want the program_info_play container which starts at 1237 |
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| [16:38:02] | sebrock: | yes, and under <textarea name="subdescr" draworder="6"> I put <altarea>x,x,x,x</altarea> |
| [16:38:15] | sebrock: | jams, but I cant see changes |
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| [16:38:49] | quicksilver: | OK, mysqlcheck says my DB is fine |
| [16:38:50] | quicksilver: | phew |
| [16:39:04] | jams: | one moment let me try |
| [16:39:05] | quicksilver: | so why would I have missing seektables for lots of recordings? |
| [16:40:50] | tank-man: | your pc crashed? |
| [16:40:58] | jams: | sebrock- so you want to shortn the lenght of descrption and move the video preview down? |
| [16:41:05] | sebrock: | yes |
| [16:41:19] | sebrock: | moving the video with "video" works fine |
| [16:42:08] | jams: | sebrock- whats the area for the video? |
| [16:42:16] | quicksilver: | tank-man: not that I remember, not |
| [16:42:20] | quicksilver: | weird |
| [16:42:25] | quicksilver: | it's not very many recordings, at all |
| [16:42:35] | quicksilver: | it's just some recordings of Doctor Who that miss seektables |
| [16:42:38] | quicksilver: | and not even all of them |
| [16:42:39] | sebrock: | <container name="video> just benieth jams |
| [16:42:40] | quicksilver: | just some... |
| [16:42:54] | jams: | sebrock- no whats the new area that you want? |
| [16:43:30] | sebrock: | basically I want the text to the left and video preview on the right hand side, same Y value |
| [16:44:07] | jams: | i thought you said you had moved the video to the position you want, maybe i misunderstood |
| [16:44:35] | sebrock: | I maybe misunderstood you |
| [16:44:48] | sebrock: | Yes, I am able to move the video to desired space |
| [16:44:55] | sebrock: | but nothing else |
| [16:45:05] | quicksilver: | I have 192 rows in "recorded" but only 183 distinct (chanid,starttime) pairs in recordedseek |
| [16:45:09] | quicksilver: | conclusiong... |
| [16:45:13] | quicksilver: | 9 files are missing seek times. |
| [16:45:14] | quicksilver: | weird. |
| [16:45:21] | jams: | sebrock- ok so whats the area for the video that you want |
| [16:45:26] | sebrock: | so for the text, lets say it should not stretch more than 800 pixles from the left to right hand side |
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| [16:46:25] | sebrock: | sorry jams, I dont quite understand you. The area for the video? you mean the position in X,Y?+++++ |
| [16:46:51] | jams: | yes..the numbers in the area tag |
| [16:47:32] | sebrock: | right now they are set to 1029,382,160,130 |
| [16:48:03] | sebrock: | but I would like a bigger preview so, maybe 400,300 or something like that |
| [16:48:49] | jams: | heh that area barely moved it. |
| [16:49:50] | jams: | well anyway i told you incorrectly what area and altarea do. I flipped them |
| [16:50:50] | jams: | sebrock- works here. |
| [16:51:03] | jams: | let me pastbin the changes |
| [16:51:08] | sebrock: | yes please do |
| [16:53:37] | jams: | http://pastebin.com/m25c33320 |
| [16:53:43] | jams: | look for the ############### |
| [16:55:09] | jams: | lines 20 and 90 are the real changes |
| [16:55:19] | sebrock: | And this is the one at 1300? |
| [16:56:04] | sebrock: | what lines in the ui.xml do they represent? |
| [16:56:13] | jams: | no the things in 1300 are program_info_del |
| [16:56:22] | sebrock: | I'm gonna do this by the book now, although Im fairly sure I already did this |
| [16:56:41] | jams: | you want program_info_play starting at 1237 |
| [16:56:55] | jams: | subdesc starting at 1255 |
| [16:57:27] | sebrock: | ok w8 a min and Iiiiii'll check this |
| [16:58:28] | jams: | just search for program_info_play and edit the first subdescr you find below it. |
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| [17:01:41] | sebrock: | jams, now it works |
| [17:02:01] | sebrock: | I have no idea why it didnt work before, I edited every subdescr I could fine :) |
| [17:03:09] | sebrock: | Thank you once again |
| [17:04:22] | Der_Thomas: | I'm having some problems with mythstream, anyone around that can help me trouble shoot? |
| [17:05:09] | Der_Thomas: | When I try to play an audio stream that is mp3 based, all I get is ransom static type noise, but it is fine when I play an AAC atream. |
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| [17:05:49] | Der_Thomas: | the player says mpglib when I play the non-working stream. I tried to re-install mpglib, but I still have the same problem |
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| [17:06:03] | Der_Thomas: | anyone have any ideas what to try next? |
| [17:06:18] | quicksilver: | hmmn |
| [17:06:25] | quicksilver: | now I fixed them with mythcommflag |
| [17:06:34] | quicksilver: | and they have really inneficiently slow seek tablse for some reason |
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| [17:08:18] | quicksilver: | in fact, now it thinks it's 3 hours long! |
| [17:08:19] | quicksilver: | argh |
| [17:08:20] | quicksilver: | sob |
| [17:10:05] | jams: | sebrock- no problem |
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| [17:14:02] | sebrock: | jams, what I dont understand is why there are so many different subdescr? |
| [17:15:02] | jams: | sebrock- each one controls how it's displayed for differnt locations withing mythtv |
| [17:15:08] | quicksilver: | ah. I now find that mythcommflag doesn't always work reliably. How tiresome |
| [17:15:13] | quicksilver: | http://readlist.com/lists/mythtv.org/mythtv-users/4/23742.html |
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| [17:15:32] | jams: | program_info_play is for the playback screen, program_info_del is for the delete recordings screen and so forth |
| [17:15:59] | hasse_: | hello, im running mythtv – after an upgrade (mythbuntu), i needs the libmythtv-0.20.2* and thats not a part of my system, where to install that, please help |
| [17:16:09] | jams: | now often they are defined the same amongst all the screens, and there are plans to cut down on the repeating. |
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| [17:17:48] | sebrock: | ok, guess I just fiddled about on the wrong part then |
| [17:18:26] | jams: | yep |
| [17:18:40] | jams: | which is why i said look for program_info_play =) |
| [17:19:50] | justinh: | sebrock: some advice from me – about all I can give as far as the god-awful ui.xml is concerned – change one thing at a time at first until you know what each area is – then leave comments there ;) |
| [17:19:58] | darkwizard: | no matter what i do i get this for my dvb-s card |
| [17:20:03] | darkwizard: | bt878_probe: card id=[0x1fefe], Unknown card. |
| [17:20:39] | jams: | justinh- i still need my comment about where the dang search screens are located. |
| [17:20:41] | justinh: | darkwizard: maybe the kernel you run isn't new enough |
| [17:21:05] | darkwizard: | justinh i can't be that |
| [17:21:07] | justinh: | jams: I hate ui.xml, but not as much as all the archive*.xml files :) |
| [17:21:15] | quicksilver: | justinh: do you know about rebuilding seektables? seems that mythcommflag doesn't get it right for DVB (i.e. mpg2) recordings. |
| [17:21:22] | xand: | darkwizard: what kernel do you have then? |
| [17:21:25] | darkwizard: | i can put in another dvb-s card same make and model |
| [17:21:28] | justinh: | quicksilver: you're in the UK aren't you? |
| [17:21:33] | quicksilver: | justinh: yeah |
| [17:21:37] | justinh: | forget about it then |
| [17:21:45] | quicksilver: | justinh: if my seektable is broken, nothign I can do? |
| [17:21:46] | xand: | darkwizard: but does it have the same chip on? |
| [17:21:47] | darkwizard: | 2.6.18.1-kanotix-1 |
| [17:21:54] | xand: | 2.6.18 is quite old |
| [17:21:57] | darkwizard: | xand yes |
| [17:22:02] | quicksilver: | justinh: for reasons unknown, about 5 of my doctor who episodes had no seektable. |
| [17:22:04] | jams: | with archvie i found out that it's best to leave the layout as is,and just change position of buttons |
| [17:22:05] | quicksilver: | justinh: all the others are fine... |
| [17:22:16] | justinh: | quicksilver: the seektable? ah just run mythcommflag --rebuild $filename |
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| [17:22:25] | quicksilver: | justinh: yeah, I did that. |
| [17:22:30] | quicksilver: | justinh: now it thinks they are 3 hours long |
| [17:22:35] | quicksilver: | justinh: (actually they are 45 mnutes...) |
| [17:23:08] | justinh: | quicksilver: in your case I'd prolly strip the crap out with ffmpeg -i $filename -acodec copy -vcodec copy $outfile then rebuild the seektable on it. usually works for me |
| [17:23:09] | darkwizard: | xand do i need to upgrade |
| [17:23:26] | quicksilver: | justinh: ah, thanks! I will try that |
| [17:23:32] | xand: | darkwizard: if you have an identical that works, it could be damaged |
| [17:23:36] | justinh: | darkwizard: depends what model card you've got whether the kernel you have is suitable or not |
| [17:23:47] | darkwizard: | twinhan |
| [17:23:48] | justinh: | and remember not all distros autoload the right modules |
| [17:23:55] | darkwizard: | i have these 102g |
| [17:24:03] | darkwizard: | and 1020a |
| [17:24:08] | xand: | justinh: he says he has two identical cards int he same box and one works |
| [17:24:13] | xand: | wait |
| [17:24:14] | justinh: | xand: ah |
| [17:24:20] | xand: | darkwizard: you said it was the exact same one? |
| [17:24:27] | darkwizard: | yes |
| [17:24:28] | xand: | is it or not? |
| [17:24:29] | justinh: | I'd never buy a twinhan card |
| [17:24:36] | darkwizard: | i have 3 cards |
| [17:24:44] | darkwizard: | 2 102gs |
| [17:24:52] | justinh: | are they all single tuner cards? |
| [17:24:53] | darkwizard: | 1 1020a |
| [17:24:58] | darkwizard: | yes |
| [17:25:02] | xand: | one of my motherboards doesn't like having two identical cards in... only one works at a time :| |
| [17:25:26] | justinh: | darkwizard: maybe try some udev jiggery-pokery |
| [17:25:33] | darkwizard: | xand u said it might be damaged? |
| [17:25:46] | xand: | possibly :) |
| [17:25:54] | justinh: | it might be a new model which doesn't have a config in the kernel you've got |
| [17:25:57] | xand: | if you remove the other one, does it work? |
| [17:26:02] | darkwizard: | if that were case would it work in windows |
| [17:26:05] | justinh: | manufacturers are always doing that |
| [17:26:26] | justinh: | same card, same name, hell even sometimes exactly the same model number, but different chipsets |
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| [17:26:27] | xand: | I'd be tempted to upgrade to a new kernel |
| [17:26:51] | darkwizard: | xand can u tell me command to do that |
| [17:26:58] | justinh: | I'd be tempted to put all the twinhan cards on ebay & get some proper ones :P |
| [17:27:26] | xand: | darkwizard: I don't know kanotix |
| [17:27:36] | darkwizard: | it debain |
| [17:27:42] | xand: | it's not debian |
| [17:28:08] | justinh: | it's a derivative of debian |
| [17:28:11] | xand: | you'd best ask #kanotix about that |
| [17:28:18] | justinh: | how many debian derivs does the world need anyway? |
| [17:28:24] | xand: | a derivative yes... they tend to break things :P |
| [17:28:33] | xand: | s/break/change c.c |
| [17:28:37] | darkwizard: | Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent |
| [17:28:38] | darkwizard: | permitted by applicable law. |
| [17:28:46] | justinh: | I'll call my distro 'myegoisbiggerthanyours-nix' |
| [17:28:58] | xand: | darkwizard: it's not debian, because it's not the same. |
| [17:29:17] | xand: | the packages are different |
| [17:29:21] | darkwizard: | okay well it was dreamlinux |
| [17:29:21] | ** justinh wonders what possesses people to try to get mythtv worky on these feck unknown distros ** | |
| [17:29:45] | justinh: | it can be enough of a sod on mainstream linux |
| [17:30:02] | justinh: | "wooo I like how that one's spelled" :-\ |
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| [17:33:25] | Daviey: | Comments on new system? http://daviey.mooo.com/mythpc2.pdf (+dvd-rw drive) |
| [17:33:46] | justinh: | rofl.. "Dream Linux is based on Debian and Morphix".. WTF if morphix? |
| [17:33:58] | quicksilver: | justinh: hmm. Well that reduced the file size from 1.5G to 1G, which is a cute side-effect, but even re-running mythcommflag I still get a bogus 3 hour length |
| [17:34:12] | quicksilver: | justinh: I think these must be slightly dodgy mpgs? transcoding them might fix them up? |
| [17:35:08] | xand: | most programs get confused by the length of freeview recordings :| |
| [17:36:46] | quicksilver: | xand: I don't seem to have this problem with most of my stuff |
| [17:37:00] | quicksilver: | xand: including other recordings of the same program on the same channel... |
| [17:37:06] | quicksilver: | xand: just 4 or 5 episodes went odd. |
| [17:37:23] | ** xand doesn't know what mythcommflag is >.< ** | |
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| [17:42:39] | justinh: | quicksilver: wouldn't bank on a transcode fixing it |
| [17:43:14] | justinh: | to stop it happening in future maybe change the recording profile to 'tv only' |
| [17:43:21] | quicksilver: | justinh, xand: FYI, mythtranscode fixed it |
| [17:43:22] | quicksilver: | weird |
| [17:43:30] | quicksilver: | I don't understand much at all :) |
| [17:43:31] | justinh: | the interactive JUNK is responsible for a lot of problems IMHO |
| [17:43:41] | quicksilver: | ah, maybe that's it |
| [17:43:48] | justinh: | leave the livetv profile as it is but change 'default' |
| [17:43:54] | justinh: | smaller files in the recordings too |
| [17:44:14] | justinh: | and if we're ever able to leave the audio description & subtitle streams out – even more space to be saved :D |
| [17:45:20] | justinh: | that reminds me. who do I write to, to complain about the 'ravers' who appear over half the picture in some saturday morning programmes? I thought subtitles were for the hearing impaired! |
| [17:45:23] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [17:45:36] | quicksilver: | I bet dr who does have interactive junk |
| [17:45:41] | quicksilver: | sounds like the kind of thing they would do |
| [17:46:15] | justinh: | I'm in danger of being some kind of '-ist' I know but those sign guys get on my tits |
| [17:46:50] | stuarta: | heh |
| [17:47:19] | justinh: | subtitles.. okay I don't have to turn em on if I don't need/want them. but you can't turn those buggers off |
| [17:47:42] | justinh: | if there was enough bandwidth available, they could be a subpicture :P |
| [17:48:00] | stuarta: | hence i've been meaning to add a priority modifier for sign language |
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| [17:49:06] | justinh: | I want them to do away with all the 'coming up next' junk too. even the bbc are onto it |
| [17:49:23] | justinh: | it's not coming up next – I didn't record it! |
| [17:49:25] | xand: | deaf people often can't read |
| [17:49:42] | xand: | because reading is based on spoken language |
| [17:49:47] | justinh: | xand: that's a bit of a generalisation |
| [17:49:53] | xand: | it's a fact :| |
| [17:50:08] | xand: | that's why they have signing |
| [17:50:11] | justinh: | I have rights too |
| [17:50:19] | justinh: | I'm all for equality :) |
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| [17:51:22] | justinh: | infact I'm sure if it wasn't for all the interactive junk there'd be enough room for a subpicture signing thing going on |
| [17:51:24] | xand: | adverts annoy me most |
| [17:51:46] | justinh: | but higher on my list is the 'coming up next' crap. we SO do not need that these days |
| [17:51:49] | xand: | I don't know if mythtv can remove them... haven't tried as I don't trust it |
| [17:52:37] | justinh: | 4, right arrow, and the ads are gone ;) |
| [17:52:57] | xand: | what does 4 do? I don't watch with mythtv c.c |
| [17:53:19] | justinh: | the only show I record which has breaks that aren't 4 minutes is 'the x-files' on virgin1. they tend to be about 30s cos it's on at 3am or something |
| [17:53:35] | justinh: | xand: you can skip an arbitrary amount :) |
| [17:54:01] | justinh: | a number then a left or right arrow skips backwards or forwards by X minutes :) |
| [17:54:01] | ** xand adds x-files to his recording list ** | |
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| [17:54:37] | justinh: | AFAIK myth's internal player is the only one which can skip by definite amounts very accurately |
| [17:55:11] | justinh: | you're missing out, and I have a feeling you really don't know how much ;) |
| [17:55:50] | xand: | I don't watch things on a TV, and the myth interface is annoying on my desktop/laptop |
| [17:55:53] | justinh: | I started out using XBMCmythtv as a frontend at first, but having used mythfrontend for over 3 years I could never use anything else |
| [17:55:57] | xand: | it's slow and isn't resizable |
| [17:56:18] | justinh: | it IS resizable, just not point & click to resize |
| [17:56:41] | justinh: | cos it's not a desktop app, and was never intended to be |
| [17:57:09] | ** xand wonders why mythfilldatabase has broken ** | |
| [17:57:58] | xand: | mplayer does have several problems though... it gets confused because the resolution of hte videos changes, and it can't tell how long things are or how far into them you are |
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| [17:58:56] | hasse_: | is there a tool to fetch coverart in mythmusic from the internet ? |
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| [17:59:04] | xand: | and it sometimes plays the wrong audio track |
| [17:59:11] | xand: | stupid commentaries |
| [18:00:06] | justinh: | hasse_: there used to be, but it was naughty & scraped amazon IIRC |
| [18:00:21] | justinh: | other apps do, but that doesn't make it right :P |
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| [18:00:29] | hasse_: | okay, |
| [18:00:41] | hasse_: | so manually would be the best way ? |
| [18:00:43] | justinh: | hasse_: search the mythtv user's mailing list |
| [18:00:54] | justinh: | there's prolly a tarball lying round somewhere |
| [18:01:45] | justinh: | oh ffs will people please just leave me alone with theme changes? ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| [18:02:23] | justinh: | I'm busy! |
| [18:04:11] | justinh: | "with some songs the texts are cut short"... ffs how long are the song titles/filenames/etc ? |
| [18:04:26] | justinh: | is there a 'can't be arsed to fix' tag? |
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| [18:07:52] | ** justinh votes to have blootube, projectgrayhem et al removed from SVN ** | |
| [18:08:30] | bbeattie: | Anyone know how difficult or what it would take to pin protect the music menu? Something like the password protect for the main settings menu. |
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| [18:09:11] | justinh: | it'd take a change in the code |
| [18:09:30] | justinh: | look in mythvideo's PIN protect stuff to copy from, I suppose |
| [18:09:31] | bbeattie: | big or little change? |
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| [18:10:27] | justinh: | probably a few tens of lines.. not huge |
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| [18:10:51] | bbeattie: | not bad, . thanks |
| [18:12:32] | justinh: | oh what the hell. I hope those patches were against current trunk |
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| [18:12:56] | bbeattie: | .. do you know if the video pin and ratings are per client or for all systems? |
| [18:13:26] | directhex: | justinh, WONTFIX is the tag you want, i think |
| [18:13:48] | bbeattie: | setup pin is per client, but I didn't see the videopin setting in the database |
| [18:15:33] | ** justinh wonders if the other themes need some love too. ** | |
| [18:15:48] | justinh: | this is what bothers me. there's not just one fecking theme to fix :( |
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| [18:39:33] | happyping: | Hi :) it's the first time I install mythtv. Could someone tell me or point mne to a site where I could get info about using my tv card with mythtv ? |
| [18:42:19] | kdubya: | what card and what distro |
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| [18:43:58] | happyping: | mandriva, flyview 2000 , I guess. |
| [18:45:35] | kdubya: | flyview 2000? |
| [18:45:38] | kdubya: | never heard of it |
| [18:45:44] | kdubya: | must be non-US |
| [18:45:51] | ** stuarta suspects it's a frame grabber ** | |
| [18:45:56] | kdubya: | just search the wiki |
| [18:46:03] | happyping: | yes. pal-b |
| [18:46:56] | happyping: | kdubya: thank you |
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| [18:53:46] | Hoxzer: | ....omg my mythbackend.log seems to be as big as 1.3Gt |
| [18:53:54] | Hoxzer: | 1.3GB |
| [19:02:37] | cccp: | wtf |
| [19:03:55] | directhex: | lots and lots of cx88 timeouts? |
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| [19:08:20] | Hoxzer: | Didn't dare to check it :P |
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| [19:18:09] | quicksilver: | why would mythtv have the wrong idea for the 'default' audio track for one recording only |
| [19:18:16] | quicksilver: | I can manually select the right track |
| [19:18:26] | quicksilver: | what decides which one it thinks it 'default'? |
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| [19:23:17] | quicksilver: | just like all the other episodes of the same program, it has two audio tracks |
| [19:23:20] | quicksilver: | seem to be named identically |
| [19:23:32] | quicksilver: | but for this one episode it is wanting to choose the other track by default.. |
| [19:23:41] | justinh: | quicksilver: whatever is in the PMT I think |
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| [19:27:28] | quicksilver: | justinh: so this is just BBC3 fakking it up again? |
| [19:29:42] | justinh: | look with ffmpeg -i & find out which is the stereo & which is the mono audio stream ;) |
| [19:31:16] | quicksilver: | yeah, well I can see that from the internal player, too |
| [19:31:26] | quicksilver: | id 1 is stereo, id 2 is the (mono) voiceover |
| [19:31:36] | quicksilver: | but what's odd is all the other episodes re auto-plyaing track 1 |
| [19:31:42] | quicksilver: | and this episode is auto-playing track 2 |
| [19:32:09] | justinh: | track2 must be marked as the primary track for some reason then |
| [19:32:35] | justinh: | "but so what, it's only fergin Dr Who" :P |
| [19:32:39] | quicksilver: | ;) |
| [19:32:51] | quicksilver: | well this is mainly me experimenting with mytharchive |
| [19:33:06] | justinh: | <shudder> |
| [19:33:06] | quicksilver: | but it does seem to have thrown up a surprising number of issues all over the shop... |
| [19:33:34] | justinh: | oh yeah. anything you can't transcode in mythtv (which happens quite a lot with dvb recordings) gets spat out |
| [19:33:52] | justinh: | well maybe not quite a lot, but more often than not |
| [19:34:02] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [19:34:09] | quicksilver: | just happened, in fact |
| [19:34:13] | justinh: | invariably when it's something I do want to keep (once in a blue moon) |
| [19:34:28] | quicksilver: | Also, I kept expecting an option in the interface to decide which "order" to archive the files in |
| [19:34:31] | quicksilver: | but I didn't see one |
| [19:34:32] | justinh: | what bugs me most is that recordings from councilTV are just fine |
| [19:35:14] | justinh: | I'm also starting to watch more from Five which is throwing up issues with the scan detection. it should _always_ be treated as interlaced but it ain't |
| [19:35:45] | justinh: | not yet got to the point yet where I'm thinking about looking in the code to make it a permanent setting... |
| [19:36:05] | justinh: | I think somebody mentioned it on a mailing list a few days ago as a point of fact |
| [19:39:03] | anykey__: | How good is MythTV together with an Intel GMA 3100 graphics chip? |
| [19:39:37] | justinh: | I'm using it with a GMA945 & it's not as bad as I thought it'd be. plays h.264 720p very well single cored |
| [19:39:54] | anykey__: | nice |
| [19:40:03] | justinh: | core2 duo mobile 1.83 |
| [19:40:13] | anykey__: | I'd be using a Core2 Duo 2.66 |
| [19:40:24] | anykey__: | I've got a nvidia based baord here, but that is just poo |
| [19:40:31] | justinh: | I think you'll be ok unless you do something really stupid |
| [19:40:32] | anykey__: | sound doesn't work, graphics doesn't work :/ |
| [19:42:06] | stuarta: | Hoxzer: there's still a few mem leaks in the backend |
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| [19:52:52] | NOT_guru: | hi there all I am trying to get myth going on an ubuntu 7.10 box |
| [19:53:30] | NOT_guru: | but I screwed up on the DB portion somewhere |
| [19:53:45] | NOT_guru: | I followed an offsite faq / wiki |
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| [19:54:34] | NOT_guru: | I built off of svn http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-20-fixes |
| [19:54:42] | Kazan: | anyone have expirience with relieving xvmc-related lockups |
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| [20:07:37] | xand: | NOT_guru: why didn't you apt-get install it? |
| [20:07:44] | xand: | or aptitude install |
| [20:08:05] | NOT_guru: | I had some kernal patches I had to do for a virtual DVB device |
| [20:08:14] | NOT_guru: | err |
| [20:08:17] | NOT_guru: | myth patches |
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| [20:18:29] | Kazan: | hey xris |
| [20:18:50] | xris: | afternoon |
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| [20:23:05] | Alxx: | woo, my second card looks like it's ready to roll |
| [20:29:00] | Kazan: | cool |
| [20:29:03] | ** Kazan shoots XvMC ** | |
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| [20:30:40] | Kazan: | what is slowest CPU required for non-xvmc assisted HD (1080i/1080p) decoding |
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| [20:32:11] | directhex: | mpeg2? |
| [20:32:15] | Kazan: | yes |
| [20:32:19] | Kazan: | i assume so |
| [20:32:21] | Kazan: | it's off QAM256 |
| [20:32:43] | directhex: | just say "i'm in yankland", then the answe would be "yes" |
| [20:34:13] | directhex: | hm. 1080i mpeg2? what are you hoping the answer will be? |
| [20:34:26] | Kazan: | wtf! |
| [20:34:36] | Kazan: | w/o XvMC 1080i is taking 50% CPU |
| [20:34:43] | Kazan: | with XvMC 1080i... SAME + crashes |
| [20:34:47] | directhex: | what's the cpu? |
| [20:34:48] | MaxeyPad: | i'm having issues with getting audio working under mythtv. I'm using an nvidia onboard audio device on an abit htpc motherboard. Anyone have experience with getting this to work in particular with the optical output? |
| [20:35:01] | Kazan: | hmm |
| [20:35:04] | Kazan: | it's not XvMC related |
| [20:35:12] | Kazan: | it's locking up related to the OSD it seems |
| [20:41:12] | Kazan: | hmm |
| [20:41:26] | Kazan: | i wonder if i should just go with libmpeg2 decode and rip the nVidia board out |
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| [20:44:02] | ** directhex is obviously on /ignore, goes to cook dinner ** | |
| [20:44:10] | Kazan: | oh |
| [20:44:11] | Kazan: | sorry |
| [20:44:12] | Kazan: | missed it |
| [20:44:16] | Kazan: | it's a athlon xp 2500+ |
| [20:44:25] | Kazan: | i missed your message it was buried by maxeypads |
| [20:44:46] | Kazan: | MaxeyPad: sorry bro, i always use Creative Labs or Turtle Beach |
| [20:44:48] | directhex: | never use xvmc if it can be avoided |
| [20:44:51] | Kazan: | yeah |
| [20:44:55] | Kazan: | i'm getting that vibe |
| [20:44:59] | Kazan: | but with XvMC turned off |
| [20:45:02] | Kazan: | i'm still locking up |
| [20:46:03] | Kazan: | with ffmpeg it cannot play HD1080i w/o XvMC, using libmpeg2 i get about 50% CPU utilization |
| [20:46:06] | Kazan: | but it's still locking up |
| [20:46:12] | Kazan: | it typically happens when i try to jump |
| [20:46:22] | Kazan: | hmm... could it be caused by LVM2? |
| [20:46:43] | directhex: | unlikley |
| [20:47:09] | Kazan: | it was just a thought |
| [20:47:28] | Kazan: | anyway – what happens is the video playback freezes typically during skips, occasionally when there is a glitch in the stream |
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| [20:51:25] | Yggdrasil: | hello, is there any patch or something |
| [20:51:38] | Yggdrasil: | that i can tell myth not to record on saturday afternoon ? |
| [20:52:05] | Kazan: | custom recording schedule? |
| [20:52:17] | Kazan: | why do you want it to not record on saturday afternoon? |
| [20:52:49] | Yggdrasil: | because |
| [20:52:53] | Yggdrasil: | my dad always comes over |
| [20:52:57] | Yggdrasil: | and sometiems he wants golf |
| [20:52:59] | Yggdrasil: | sometimes football |
| [20:53:07] | Yggdrasil: | and each time theres something being recordded |
| [20:53:11] | Yggdrasil: | i havte to stop it |
| [20:53:15] | Yggdrasil: | and the nchange channels |
| [20:53:24] | Kazan: | i have a simplier solution for you |
| [20:53:27] | Yggdrasil: | and then like 30 minutes later it starts tryign to record a again |
| [20:53:30] | Kazan: | hook the cable up to your TV |
| [20:53:32] | Yggdrasil: | haha |
| [20:53:34] | Yggdrasil: | cable |
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| [20:53:39] | Yggdrasil: | this is dvbs |
| [20:53:44] | Kazan: | ah |
| [20:53:49] | Kazan: | so only your computer can record it |
| [20:53:52] | Kazan: | why don't you use LiveTV? |
| [20:53:56] | Yggdrasil: | well |
| [20:53:57] | Yggdrasil: | um |
| [20:53:59] | Yggdrasil: | i try |
| [20:54:08] | Yggdrasil: | but if its recording it switches to the channel |
| [20:54:11] | Yggdrasil: | that its recording |
| [20:54:20] | Yggdrasil: | and actually starts at the begining of what its recording |
| [20:54:28] | Yggdrasil: | but you say custom recording schedule ? |
| [20:56:14] | Kazan: | custom recording schedule to block |
| [20:56:15] | Kazan: | aye |
| [20:56:30] | Kazan: | do you have to steer your satellite? |
| [20:56:35] | Kazan: | you could get another DVB-S card if you don't |
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| [20:59:38] | Kazan: | anyway... i need to figure out why i am locking up and having so much problems with HD sized frames |
| [20:59:43] | Kazan: | the WAF is currently approaching zero |
| [20:59:47] | cornell: | Anybody care to recommend a digital cable tv capture card (with tv out, and perhaps a remote)? |
| [21:00:20] | Kazan: | you won't find one that has TV out |
| [21:00:26] | Kazan: | it's a capture card :P |
| [21:00:34] | Kazan: | but i use a Kworld ATSC 110 |
| [21:00:38] | Kazan: | the current one that is out is the 115 i think |
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| [21:06:48] | Karistian: | Hi there! Why does mythtv(0.20) write heavily on a harddisk? Is it possible to reduce that somehow? When I stop mythtv, a "cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0>stream.ts" there's _much_ less hd activity. |
| [21:07:22] | Kazan: | because mythtv is PVR software |
| [21:07:29] | Kazan: | it's recording what you're watching |
| [21:08:32] | Karistian: | Kazan: Of course, I can also do "mplayer stream.ts" while catting (recording) the /dev/dvb/...-stream to my harddisk, and it's a _big_ difference to mythtv. |
| [21:08:53] | BULLE: | Karistian: yes, because myth writes to hd, then reads hd and plays that, mplayer just reads directly from the dvb card |
| [21:09:15] | Kazan: | i think karistian said they're cat'in the output to a stream.ts then mplayer'ing that |
| [21:09:17] | Karistian: | BULLE: No, I write to disk, then play from disk with mplayer. |
| [21:09:26] | Kazan: | are you real time comflagging? |
| [21:09:44] | Karistian: | Kazan: Hm. Maybe, dunno. Where can I look at that? |
| [21:09:59] | Karistian: | Kazan: In the frontend configuration? |
| [21:10:08] | Kazan: | backend config for realtime comflag |
| [21:10:20] | Karistian: | Kazan: Okay, thx, will look! |
| [21:10:29] | Yggdrasil: | hey kazan |
| [21:10:41] | Yggdrasil: | i think that i tou would then record 2 things aat once |
| [21:11:00] | Yggdrasil: | i think ill have to patch somehow |
| [21:11:12] | Kazan: | yes you'd record two things at once |
| [21:11:16] | Kazan: | you don't have to patch to be able to do that |
| [21:11:25] | Kazan: | just go into mythtv-setup while backed is down and configure your new card |
| [21:11:40] | Kazan: | i have four tuners |
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| [21:12:01] | Kazan: | Hauppauge PVR-150, Hauppauge PVR-500 (two tuners) – those three are hardware MPEG2 encoding NTSC tuners |
| [21:12:12] | NOT_guru: | question on multiple tuners |
| [21:12:17] | Kazan: | then a Kworld ATSC 110 (DVB-driver model) US HD tuner |
| [21:12:24] | Kazan: | NOT_guru: <insert answer here> |
| [21:12:30] | NOT_guru: | I have 2 twinhan 102g dvb-s adaptors |
| [21:12:31] | MaxeyPad: | ok. I'm hating on this pretty hard |
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| [21:12:37] | NOT_guru: | when using 1 all is well |
| [21:12:46] | NOT_guru: | when adding second only 1 of the 2 works |
| [21:12:58] | MaxeyPad: | what is a sound card that has optical output that works flawlessly with mythtv |
| [21:13:07] | NOT_guru: | do I need to redo the module / driver when adding a second card? in general? |
| [21:13:20] | Kazan: | hmm |
| [21:13:26] | Kazan: | is it only in mythtv you have a problem |
| [21:13:33] | Kazan: | or do they never work? |
| [21:13:39] | NOT_guru: | yes err |
| [21:13:44] | defaultro: | NOT_guru, as long as the driver/module is already compiled, you'll just have to play with your modprobe.conf |
| [21:13:46] | NOT_guru: | well thats a trick question |
| [21:13:57] | NOT_guru: | in windows both cards work in the same slots |
| [21:14:06] | Kazan: | i meant in linux |
| [21:14:15] | NOT_guru: | thanks for the tip defaultro |
| [21:14:18] | NOT_guru: | appreciated |
| [21:14:18] | Yggdrasil: | kazan |
| [21:14:22] | Kazan: | yes? |
| [21:14:29] | Yggdrasil: | i didnt mean patch to have multiple tuners i meant patch to not record |
| [21:14:33] | NOT_guru: | have not tested in other DVB apps under linux |
| [21:14:34] | Kazan: | oh |
| [21:14:34] | Yggdrasil: | brb |
| [21:14:48] | Kazan: | afaik there isn't a way to say "you cannot record during X time" except POSSIBLY a custom recording schedule |
| [21:14:52] | defaultro: | like mine, alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 and alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371 |
| [21:15:05] | defaultro: | you will have to specify the module in modprobe.conf |
| [21:15:06] | NOT_guru: | I do note in dmesg output a difference in the cards |
| [21:15:14] | NOT_guru: | but that could be the modprobe |
| [21:15:18] | NOT_guru: | so I will start there |
| [21:15:25] | Karistian: | Kazan: There's "Commercial Flagger command:". Is this the right form entry? It's set to "mythcommflag". |
| [21:15:32] | Kazan: | modprobe should be smart enough to setup each card seperately |
| [21:15:36] | Kazan: | ie dvb0 and dvb1 |
| [21:15:44] | defaultro: | Kazan, I did do it manually |
| [21:15:51] | defaultro: | it wasn't automatically modified |
| [21:15:53] | Kazan: | Karistian: aye it's set to mythcommflag |
| [21:15:55] | MaxeyPad: | I have the abit motherborad (the hd one) is there a way to get the onboard audio optical output working |
| [21:16:00] | Kazan: | ouch.. the IVTV drivers are smart enough to do so :( |
| [21:16:14] | Kazan: | Karistian: however somewhere there is a setting that reads something like "real time commflag" |
| [21:16:25] | Karistian: | Kazan: Okay, will look! |
| [21:16:28] | Kazan: | Karistian: which makes it comercial flag as the show records, that could explain higher HD utilization |
| [21:16:35] | defaultro: | does anyone know if there is a 2.35 anamorphic theme? |
| [21:16:43] | MaxeyPad: | Let me just ask this. what sound card cna I buy that has optical output that works perflectly in linux |
| [21:16:45] | stuarta: | there isn't |
| [21:16:47] | Kazan: | i would recomend having it turned on if your CPU can handle it |
| [21:16:57] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:16:58] | NOT_guru: | well I do see both adaptor0 and 1 in /dev/dvb |
| [21:16:59] | Kazan: | MaxeyPad: something from Creative Labs |
| [21:17:10] | Kazan: | NOT_guru: try using them w/ mplayer or xine or something |
| [21:17:14] | defaultro: | looks like I may need to hack the xml to match my 2.35 res |
| [21:17:29] | Kazan: | stuarta: did you see the discussion above about my lockup problem |
| [21:17:43] | ** stuarta reads up ** | |
| [21:18:14] | darkwizard: | well this is what i get |
| [21:18:23] | Yggdrasil: | kazan i see theres a dvd burner but is there a cd burner ? |
| [21:18:41] | darkwizard: | bttv0: subsystem: fefe:0001 (UNKNOWN) |
| [21:18:41] | darkwizard: | b |
| [21:18:55] | darkwizard: | but 1st card is same |
| [21:19:01] | darkwizard: | but linux see it |
| [21:19:26] | Kazan: | Yggdrasil: to make VideoCDs? |
| [21:19:45] | Yggdrasil: | audio |
| [21:19:50] | Kazan: | oh... probably not then |
| [21:19:51] | stuarta: | Kazan: you'll have to be more specific |
| [21:20:08] | Kazan: | stuarta: ok.. i'll try to run through it all the way |
| [21:20:58] | Kazan: | system specs are: Athlon XP 2500+, 1GB Ram, Geforce 6200, PVR-150, PVR-500, Kworld ATSC 110, two LVMs – one 460G, one 147G |
| [21:21:08] | Kazan: | big on stores recordings, other one has mythmusic and mythvideo files on it |
| [21:21:19] | stuarta: | somewhat less specific :) |
| [21:21:30] | Kazan: | on HD recordings, using XvMC or using libmpeg2 either way – i expirience lockups |
| [21:21:37] | Kazan: | everything from just frontend, to the entire system |
| [21:21:39] | stuarta: | on playback? |
| [21:21:41] | Kazan: | aye |
| [21:21:45] | kdubya: | that cpu is pretty slow even with xvmc |
| [21:21:47] | Kazan: | typically happens when trying to seek |
| [21:21:50] | stuarta: | so recording is all good |
| [21:22:10] | Kazan: | kdubya: standard decoder no XvMC can't do it on it, XvMC and libmpeg2 options both us 50% CPU |
| [21:22:16] | Kazan: | aye |
| [21:22:22] | Kazan: | i've had all four turners churning it out at once before |
| [21:22:25] | stuarta: | what encoding is your HD content? |
| [21:22:30] | Kazan: | MPEG2 as far as i know |
| [21:22:35] | Kazan: | it's coming in over QAM256 |
| [21:22:37] | darkwizard: | defaultro |
| [21:22:40] | Kazan: | myth is storing it as .mpg |
| [21:22:43] | defaultro: | yes dark |
| [21:22:47] | Kazan: | any command i can run to get info about the .mpg file? |
| [21:22:56] | darkwizard: | i posted my error |
| [21:22:58] | stuarta: | ffmpeg -i <recording file> |
| [21:23:02] | darkwizard: | on pastbin |
| [21:23:07] | defaultro: | oh |
| [21:23:09] | darkwizard: | pastebin |
| [21:23:12] | darkwizard: | http://pastebin.ca/810352 |
| [21:23:24] | Kazan: | Stream #0.0[0x800]: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 1280x720, 16000 kb/s, 59.94 fps(r) |
| [21:23:31] | Kazan: | Stream #0.1[0x801]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 448 kb/s |
| [21:23:43] | Kazan: | hmm.. so it's only 720p |
| [21:23:53] | Kazan: | that explains why i can decode it with just CPU |
| [21:23:58] | defaultro: | it's detected |
| [21:24:04] | Kazan: | fine with me – my display is only 720p :D |
| [21:24:10] | darkwizard: | just unknown |
| [21:24:24] | defaultro: | unknown on where? |
| [21:24:25] | darkwizard: | bttv0 is unknown |
| [21:24:26] | defaultro: | aplay -L |
| [21:24:37] | defaultro: | lsmod |grep bt |
| [21:24:42] | stuarta: | i'm thinking your hardware may not have enough juice for the playback |
| [21:24:50] | Kazan: | with only 50% cpu utilization? |
| [21:24:54] | Kazan: | spikes? |
| [21:24:55] | stuarta: | but a bit of XvMC offload and you may have a chance |
| [21:25:02] | Kazan: | locks up with XvMC |
| [21:25:04] | Kazan: | or without |
| [21:25:10] | Kazan: | same CPU utilization in both cases as well |
| [21:25:18] | stuarta: | tried different video drivers? |
| [21:25:44] | Kazan: | like what? |
| [21:25:46] | Kazan: | i'm using nvidia binary |
| [21:25:59] | Kazan: | from livna |
| [21:26:08] | darkwizard: | okay defaultro |
| [21:26:24] | darkwizard: | it see for 1 card not 2nd |
| [21:27:09] | stuarta: | did it ever work? |
| [21:27:19] | defaultro: | i'm thinking what I did |
| [21:27:25] | defaultro: | ah |
| [21:27:33] | defaultro: | try adding it in modprobe.conf |
| [21:27:41] | darkwizard: | they work in windows |
| [21:27:45] | defaultro: | lol |
| [21:27:48] | defaultro: | you are in unix |
| [21:27:50] | Kazan: | stuarta: yes |
| [21:27:51] | defaultro: | it's not the same |
| [21:28:00] | Kazan: | it used to be fairly stable |
| [21:28:01] | defaultro: | that's why i was telling you to add it in modprobe.conf |
| [21:28:14] | stuarta: | Kazan: updated any drivers? esp the video drivers? |
| [21:28:17] | Kazan: | yes |
| [21:28:23] | Kazan: | routine yum update's with livna enabled |
| [21:28:23] | stuarta: | downgrade |
| [21:28:28] | Kazan: | the thought had occured to me |
| [21:28:37] | stuarta: | nvidia, break things as much as they fix things |
| [21:28:43] | Kazan: | can't use livna if i do that :( |
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| [21:29:01] | Kazan: | xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-100.14.19–3.lvn7 |
| [21:30:08] | stuarta: | you should still be able to downgrade to an earlier package. |
| [21:30:20] | Kazan: | i'd have to manually compile |
| [21:30:23] | Kazan: | because of the kmods |
| [21:30:31] | stuarta: | ew |
| [21:30:33] | Kazan: | aye |
| [21:30:46] | Kazan: | i would have to downgrade kernel as well |
| [21:30:58] | Kazan: | i'm considering just replacing the core of the system with... |
| [21:31:14] | Kazan: | Athlon 64 x2 3800+ |
| [21:31:20] | Kazan: | 1GB DDR2–800 |
| [21:31:29] | Kazan: | and a PCI-Express video card (an ATI) |
| [21:31:35] | stuarta: | or get a separate frontend and keep the backend as is |
| [21:31:39] | kdubya: | why the hell would you use an ati card |
| [21:31:54] | stuarta: | i'm stuck with ati, i'd say avoid it. |
| [21:32:08] | stuarta: | their drivers are even worse |
| [21:32:15] | Kazan: | kdubya: because, other than XvMC, their shit blows |
| [21:32:32] | kdubya: | there are over 200 people in the channel |
| [21:32:34] | Kazan: | stuarta: I happen to have one laying around anyway |
| [21:32:39] | Kazan: | oh sorry, language |
| [21:32:40] | kdubya: | no one would suggest you buy and ati card for linux |
| [21:32:49] | kdubya: | an* |
| [21:33:17] | Kazan: | kdubya: only problem i've ever had with ATI cards under linux was for a while you couldn't have Xv out on video-out and DVI/VGA at once |
| [21:33:22] | stuarta: | well that can't hurt |
| [21:33:26] | Kazan: | being that i use DVI->HDMI i don't have to worry about that |
| [21:33:42] | defaultro: | darkwizard, I need to work on something now. Maybe, this will help you as a reference. This what I have right now. http://pastebin.ca/810366 |
| [21:33:46] | Kazan: | stuarta: i assume that a A64 x2 3800+ will laugh at HD content and move on :P |
| [21:34:16] | stuarta: | only cause it's mpeg2 HD |
| [21:34:42] | Kazan: | i'm not likely to get anything else |
| [21:35:00] | justinh: | not til h.264 takes over anyway :P |
| [21:35:05] | Kazan: | it's a AM2 motherboard |
| [21:35:17] | Kazan: | i can always put a A64 x2 6k+ in it some day in the future |
| [21:35:25] | justinh: | oh man you guys think HDTV is so sweet now. just you wait |
| [21:35:28] | Kazan: | justinh: by they everything will probably be encrypted and we'll be farked |
| [21:35:34] | justinh: | blocky crap :P |
| [21:35:47] | justinh: | Kazan: it could be already but it isn't |
| [21:36:13] | kdubya: | are there no encryption problems in the UK? |
| [21:36:18] | kdubya: | can you record anything you want in HD? |
| [21:36:22] | Kazan: | only channels are get unencrypted are the ones it is illegal for them to encrypt |
| [21:36:23] | justinh: | what HD? |
| [21:37:02] | justinh: | the HD channels we could get here are encrippled with no legal means of using them other than buying an 'approved' STB |
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| [21:37:12] | justinh: | but then there aren't many anyway |
| [21:37:25] | defaultro: | <justinh> oh man you guys think HDTV is so sweet now. just you wait |
| [21:37:29] | defaultro: | hey buddy |
| [21:37:31] | justinh: | and of the HDTV worth having, BBCHD is free and others are coming |
| [21:37:33] | stuarta: | Kazan: stick it in and give it a whirl, but i still think it's your drivers |
| [21:37:34] | defaultro: | what is next? |
| [21:37:48] | Kazan: | stuarta: i think you're right :P |
| [21:38:02] | justinh: | defaultro: bitrate for stream resolution, SDTV mpeg2 here is better quality than your supposed HDTV in mpeg2 in the USA |
| [21:38:09] | Dibblah: | justinh: BBC HD is in-the-clear. |
| [21:38:22] | defaultro: | k |
| [21:38:38] | justinh: | up to 2.5GB per hour for SDTV recordings here |
| [21:38:42] | Kazan: | i may have to just suck it up and manually install nvidia drivers |
| [21:38:46] | justinh: | 720x576 :P |
| [21:39:04] | defaultro: | that;s pal res right |
| [21:39:13] | justinh: | and your what.. 1920x1080 is er.. 9GB per hour tops? |
| [21:39:21] | defaultro: | yep |
| [21:39:24] | defaultro: | that's what I remember |
| [21:39:34] | justinh: | you do the math (sic) |
| [21:39:35] | stuarta: | 16000 kb/s |
| [21:39:59] | justinh: | and I wouldn't say the bitrate of our TV makes it shine |
| [21:40:27] | defaultro: | so maybe, we still don't have the proper infrastructure |
| [21:40:30] | justinh: | I've seen the h.264 HDTV from the BBC HD test channel (which is now launched officially btw).. like umm// WOW |
| [21:40:37] | defaultro: | wow |
| [21:40:41] | defaultro: | can't wait to happen here |
| [21:40:45] | defaultro: | drooling? |
| [21:40:49] | justinh: | 18mbits/sec h.264 wow |
| [21:40:53] | defaultro: | wow |
| [21:41:01] | justinh: | er.. Mbits/sec even |
| [21:41:03] | defaultro: | how did you view it? |
| [21:41:08] | defaultro: | hdtv set or myth? |
| [21:41:19] | justinh: | about 5 inches from the screen in a supermarket. no visible artifacts |
| [21:41:24] | Kazan: | lol |
| [21:41:39] | justinh: | but then, the BBC have always known how to broadcast properly ;) |
| [21:41:53] | defaultro: | don't know when it'll happen in us |
| [21:42:09] | justinh: | er.. for starters a lot of gear will end up in land-fill ? :P |
| [21:42:13] | defaultro: | do we have the infrustructure in myth to play h.264 encodings |
| [21:42:19] | justinh: | defaultro: kinda |
| [21:42:24] | defaultro: | k |
| [21:42:37] | defaultro: | it's just going to be ffmpegs library i guess |
| [21:42:39] | justinh: | not in the code officially yet AFAIK, but there's a patch to enable threaded playback with multiple cores somewhere |
| [21:43:32] | justinh: | I think anything without MBAFF & AVC plays ok without a stupidly quick CPU – but for what the BBC are broadcasting for example.. you need dual or more cores by all accounts |
| [21:43:41] | stuarta: | it can do most of it. |
| [21:43:52] | justinh: | actually I still need to find a clip & try my new frontend on it |
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| [21:44:18] | justinh: | I can just about play 1080p H.264 in a single core mplayer on my core2 duo mobile 1.83 |
| [21:44:31] | stuarta: | that the test clip? |
| [21:44:33] | DBeta: | Hello group. |
| [21:44:35] | justinh: | as in.. it plays great for 30s, slows way down for a couple of secs, then goes up |
| [21:44:45] | justinh: | stuarta: nah bbc stuff is all 1080i AVC1 |
| [21:44:48] | justinh: | I think |
| [21:45:12] | DBeta: | I've got a bit of a problem with my Mythbuntu box and MAME, anyone know enough about mame to possibly help? Google isn't giving me results. |
| [21:45:14] | justinh: | stuarta: it was a BBC vision gallery clip orf of the apple webshite |
| [21:45:52] | stuarta: | ah |
| [21:45:52] | defaultro: | speaking of 1080p, I'm now able to view 1080p movies on my crt projector :) |
| [21:46:03] | Kazan: | nice |
| [21:46:05] | justinh: | stuarta: might still be AVC I dunno |
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| [21:46:28] | justinh: | I used to be able to easily find a site featuring lots of hard to play clips |
| [21:47:51] | justinh: | actually stuarta that site had clips from Sly MoviesHD too – crikey etc |
| [21:48:54] | defaultro: | which site? interesting |
| [21:49:03] | stuarta: | may be why it's now hard to find |
| [21:49:05] | defaultro: | my friend gave me a link the other night, free movies |
| [21:49:11] | justinh: | I dunno which site. if I knew I'd be all over it |
| [21:49:14] | defaultro: | but all were like 400x180 |
| [21:49:22] | defaultro: | and flash based |
| [21:49:26] | defaultro: | but clear |
| [21:49:27] | stuarta: | ew |
| [21:50:15] | justinh: | sorry defaultro but if the choice is between watch a movie in shite quality or not at all, guess which I'd pick |
| [21:50:33] | defaultro: | :D |
| [21:50:49] | defaultro: | picture quality is clear though |
| [21:50:55] | defaultro: | though, it's small |
| [21:51:11] | defaultro: | it's nice because some new movies are there, let me pull it |
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| [21:51:49] | justinh: | must have been taken down cos it was quite literally in the first couple of google results |
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| [21:52:05] | defaultro: | ah |
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| [21:52:16] | defaultro: | nope, I can still view it |
| [21:52:24] | defaultro: | http://www.movie6.net/ |
| [21:52:33] | defaultro: | now, it's posted here, it will be taken down :D LOL |
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| [21:53:27] | justinh: | I meant my hd clip site, dummy :P |
| [21:54:15] | defaultro: | i also have tons of HD clip link before |
| [21:54:19] | defaultro: | from A to Z |
| [21:54:22] | defaultro: | and 0 to 9 |
| [21:54:26] | defaultro: | i meant trailers |
| [21:54:42] | justinh: | I know the system can 'play hd' but how many of the clips are avc encoded? |
| [21:54:55] | justinh: | I need the SoB BBC HD clip-type stuff |
| [21:55:31] | justinh: | legally would be nice too, as in a short clip for er.. critique |
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| [22:00:32] | Karistian: | Kazan: AFAICS mythtv doesn't recognize commercials at all. In the frontend there's something like "allow real time threads". Doesn't change something. In the backend there's just "CPU load:" (low, high..). I cannot find something realtime priority related there. |
| [22:00:47] | justinh: | rofl. just found a posting on videohelp.com from some guy asking if his system is ripped enough to encode 1080i h.264 in realtime |
| [22:01:09] | darkwizard: | defaultro were do i find modprobe.conf? |
| [22:01:22] | justinh: | /etc |
| [22:01:39] | Karistian: | Kazan: I uploaded to pictures which show the hd activity when 1) using "cat /dev/dvb/blah > disk.ts" while playing the stream with mplayer and 2) when using mythtv: http://tinyurl.com/26x2oj and http://tinyurl.com/22xppv |
| [22:02:14] | Karistian: | Kazan: I don't understand that. |
| [22:02:22] | darkwizard: | justinh it is modprobe.d |
| [22:02:24] | darkwizard: | right |
| [22:02:46] | justinh: | hey sometimes I don't feel like giving out the whole answer. I made you look though |
| [22:03:32] | darkwizard: | i don't have a .conf |
| [22:03:38] | darkwizard: | only a .d |
| [22:05:05] | justinh: | time to er.. 'man ubuntu' then |
| [22:05:31] | justinh: | or 'U-c**t-U' as I was calling it earlier today |
| [22:05:46] | cornell: | Kazan, thanks for the tip about the Kworld ATSC (I've a hauppage 350 for analog cable, accepts cable, has s-video and composite output for tv, so I don't need a seperate card for feeding the stream to a television, hoping for something similar with digital) |
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| [22:07:10] | iamlindoro: | cornell, you won't find any ATSC capture cards with HD out as well. |
| [22:07:53] | iamlindoro: | or even SD, for that matter, as far as I've ever seen. |
| [22:07:59] | justinh: | mythtv doesn't support DVB FF (so-called 'fully featured') cards |
| [22:08:04] | cornell: | Don't necessarily need HD out... only have analog tv's at the moment. Once over the expense of hd capture, I can go for hd out. |
| [22:08:21] | justinh: | HD capture ain't expensive man |
| [22:08:23] | iamlindoro: | cornell, there aren't any. ATSC capture only, no TV out on them |
| [22:08:35] | cornell: | K |
| [22:08:44] | justinh: | and it doesn't get much more HD than HDMI/DVI out of a VGA card |
| [22:08:54] | iamlindoro: | true that |
| [22:08:59] | cornell: | ... what exactly is "ATSC" ? |
| [22:09:11] | justinh: | always twice (the) same color |
| [22:09:12] | iamlindoro: | The US Broadcast HD standard |
| [22:09:17] | cornell: | Ah... |
| [22:09:26] | cornell: | Then... what's QAM ? |
| [22:09:26] | ** justinh sniggers ** | |
| [22:09:37] | iamlindoro: | QAM is the modulation the cable companies use to transmit signal. |
| [22:09:39] | justinh: | like QUIM but from the other end |
| [22:09:43] | iamlindoro: | google any of the above... |
| [22:10:02] | cornell: | ATSC is over the air? |
| [22:10:06] | justinh: | yes |
| [22:10:06] | kslater: | yes |
| [22:10:09] | justinh: | JFGI |
| [22:10:26] | kslater: | your highest quality HD source in the US |
| [22:10:27] | justinh: | infact... |
| [22:10:29] | cornell: | So a card for digital cable would be QAM |
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| [22:10:48] | kdubya: | digital qam is usually astc as well |
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| [22:11:08] | iamlindoro: | ATSC is the standard, QAM is the modulation. Different. |
| [22:11:15] | cornell: | Ok, but as long as the card spec says .... |
| [22:11:16] | darkwizard: | justinh i am giving up on this... |
| [22:11:24] | cornell: | So the card spec should say ATSC and QAM? |
| [22:11:40] | iamlindoro: | If your ATSC card is QAM capable, it will do OTA and off your cable line, yes. |
| [22:11:42] | kdubya: | all cards that support qam do not say it in the specs |
| [22:11:59] | cornell: | Don't care about OTA |
| [22:12:11] | kdubya: | well |
| [22:12:17] | kdubya: | in all likelyhood |
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| [22:12:23] | kdubya: | ota is the same as qam |
| [22:12:29] | cornell: | k |
| [22:12:35] | cornell: | Thanks |
| [22:12:37] | iamlindoro: | and, as usual (shouldn't this be in the welcome message?) Your QAM is probably heavily encrypted, so don't expect to get more than network TV, if that. |
| [22:12:47] | kslater: | justinh is long gone |
| [22:13:07] | kslater: | gets really frustrated when people ask questions he feels they could easily look up |
| [22:13:14] | iamlindoro: | affirmative. |
| [22:13:45] | kslater: | I'm in and out so much it's hard to get frustrated. :-) |
| [22:14:13] | iamlindoro: | I stay logged in an just glance at it from time to time... but usually what I see is enough to go back to doing something else. |
| [22:14:49] | kslater: | hehe |
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| [22:15:08] | kslater: | cornell: are you set with your answers? |
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| [22:17:07] | darkwizard: | i startting to really hate linux lol |
| [22:17:08] | edge_: | My mythtv says it doesn't see my capture card |
| [22:17:26] | iamlindoro: | MythTV must be broken, then. |
| [22:17:36] | edge_: | i think im misising drivers |
| [22:17:47] | edge_: | is there a guide to assist in picking my card and installing its drivers |
| [22:17:53] | iamlindoro: | What's the card/distro? |
| [22:18:12] | edge_: | Hauppauge 150/ Gentoo |
| [22:18:35] | iamlindoro: | edge_, the driver you're looking for is ivtv, so I'd google gentoo ivtv howto |
| [22:19:01] | edge_: | what is this ivtv? |
| [22:19:07] | iamlindoro: | ... |
| [22:19:08] | edge_: | if you don't mind me asking |
| [22:19:10] | iamlindoro: | the driver. |
| [22:19:16] | kslater: | edge_ |
| [22:19:22] | edge_: | wonder why they named it that |
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| [22:19:23] | kslater: | have you read the mythtv docs? |
| [22:19:50] | kslater: | I'm pretty sure that card is covered in there |
| [22:19:52] | edge_: | i wouldn't have gotten so far if i hadn't read some of it , im not gonna lie i didn't read it verbatum , i'll go work out this ivtv , thanks guys |
| [22:20:02] | edge_: | i was using the Gentoo wiki ,myth docs |
| [22:20:03] | iamlindoro: | Plus, the answer to why it's called that is right on the driver's main page. |
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| [22:22:07] | edge_: | the gentoo wiki is a little bit short on a few things , thanks for clearing this up guys |
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| [22:41:23] | olsta: | hello |
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| [22:42:17] | olsta: | if on a computer run the mythbackend, can i use this backend over lan? |
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| [22:47:16] | Hoxzer: | is there a way to delete all livetv recordings ? |
| [22:47:46] | BULLE: | Hoxzer: no need, they will be deleted when time comes |
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| [22:49:08] | Hoxzer: | I have 830 livetv recordings I really need to find an easy way to do this |
| [22:50:57] | jams: | Hoxzer- easiest way is to query the db for the filenames, write the output to a file. Read in the file and loop through the contents deleting as you go. |
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| [22:53:40] | Hoxzer: | Hmm, APprently I found that mythtv autodeletes livetv recordings if space is needed when autoexpire is on... |
| [22:54:08] | jams: | yes it does |
| [22:54:09] | Hoxzer: | so I guess.. now everything is back to normal. |
| [22:54:32] | Hoxzer: | jams: do you think my old livetv recordings get deleted ? |
| [22:54:40] | jams: | of course they do |
| [22:54:53] | Pogonip_: | I can watch TV on my remote FE, but every time I try to play music from my remote FE I get "decoderMAD:Failed to open input. Error 5". Does someone know any good debugging tips? |
| [22:55:11] | Hoxzer: | Ok... I was just guessing because they are like one week old or so... |
| [22:55:17] | jams: | not right away(unless it's under 2 minutes) but they are deleted as space is needed. |
| [22:55:51] | Hoxzer: | and they didn't get immediately get deleted when I started mytbackend with autoexpire on. |
| [23:00:23] | olsta: | can i use the backend over network? |
| [23:00:29] | olsta: | with the mythfrontend |
| [23:01:08] | olsta: | the backend and mythtv work fine, but now i want to know if there is a way to look tv over network with the frontend |
| [23:01:42] | jams: | olsta- yes thats a major design feature of mythtv. |
| [23:02:01] | olsta: | ok but how, can you give a tutorial or another link? |
| [23:02:16] | iamlindoro: | ha |
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| [23:04:56] | Pogonip_: | Olsta; Yes, you can watch TV from a remote FE. In setup use the IP of the BE. |
| [23:07:27] | Pogonip_: | Olsta; From you FE, open Mythtv, select setup, general settings and use the IP of your BE as the Host Name |
| [23:10:34] | Pogonip_: | iamlindoro, can you see this post? |
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| [23:11:31] | Pogonip_: | I can watch TV on my remote FE, but every time I try to play music from my remote FE I get "decoderMAD:Failed to open input. Error 5". Does someone know any good debugging tips? |
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| [23:13:19] | alexp789: | pogonip, have you shared the music to the FE (NFS mount etc..) |
| [23:13:26] | olsta: | Pogonip_: ok i start mythtv-setup |
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| [23:14:19] | olsta: | i added the ip from the backend |
| [23:14:27] | olsta: | but how under tv-card? |
| [23:14:28] | Pogonip_: | alexp789, I didn't know I had to take that step. |
| [23:14:48] | olsta: | which type |
| [23:16:26] | Pogonip_: | olsta. Don't start the mythtv-setup. Start the mythtv frontend, and under the main menu select Setup. You will go to page 1 of a two page setup. At the top of page 1 add the BE IP |
| [23:16:52] | olsta: | ah k thx |
| [23:17:29] | alexp789: | pogonip, i'm no expert, but i store my music in /myth/music on the BE, so i've just nfs mounted that to the FE, in the same place, and hey presto it worked ;-) |
| [23:17:45] | Pogonip_: | alexp789; What utility do I use to set the NFS mount? |
| [23:18:20] | Pogonip_: | alexp789; I'm with you all the way. This sounds like a possible solution. |
| [23:18:36] | alexp789: | pogonip, google is your friend here, "exportfs" is the command and the file /etc/exports is where you put the entries to make them persistant between reboots. |
| [23:19:06] | Pogonip_: | alexp789; Cool. Thanks for the help. |
| [23:19:12] | alexp789: | pogonip, then just use "beip:/myth/music /myth/music nfs defaults 0 0" type entry in the /etc/fstab on the fe. |
| [23:20:16] | Pogonip_: | alexp789; OMG! All this time I forgot to add this system to the network. |
| [23:20:42] | alexp789: | pogonip, oh and yeah that could help ;-) |
| [23:22:12] | Pogonip_: | alexp789; What confused me was that the TV part of the setup works. I can watch TV from the BE, record and everything else. This should do the trick. Thanks again. |
| [23:22:50] | olsta: | Pogonip_: iam under mythfrontend |
| [23:22:58] | alexp789: | pogonip, no probs hope it goes well. |
| [23:22:58] | olsta: | but i cant found what you mean |
| [23:23:31] | Pogonip_: | olsta; There should be several buttons on the main menu, one should be called Setup. |
| [23:23:37] | olsta: | yes |
| [23:23:43] | olsta: | and there are three menues |
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| [23:23:59] | olsta: | under setup |
| [23:24:35] | Pogonip_: | olsta; Under setup select General |
| [23:24:43] | olsta: | ok |
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| [23:25:06] | olsta: | in the first line there are localhost |
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| [23:26:00] | Pogonip_: | olsta; localhost tells the FE to get info from the FE, you want to replace localhost with the IP of the BE |
| [23:27:22] | Pogonip_: | olsta; Once you change localhost to the IP of the BE, everything on that page now relates to the BE, user, passwords..etc. |
| [23:27:25] | olsta: | ok i change for the backend, but now i get this |
| [23:27:26] | olsta: | Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.2.34' (111) |
| [23:27:45] | olsta: | the user are pw are correct |
| [23:28:06] | Pogonip_: | olsta; Open a term and ping 192.168.2.34 |
| [23:29:21] | olsta: | 64 bytes from 192.168.2.34: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.776 ms |
| [23:29:39] | olsta: | well with ssh iam connected to the computer |
| [23:30:06] | olsta: | 2007-12–10 00:29:58.203 Database not open while trying to save setting: Language |
| [23:30:16] | Pogonip_: | olsta; There is one more step. You need to modify the a script. Give me a second to find it. |
| [23:30:52] | olsta: | k thx |
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| [23:31:02] | skub: | olsta: check if mysql is listening also for "foreign" connections (in /etc/mysql/my.cnf no line like "skip-networking" or "bind-adress") |
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| [23:31:24] | olsta: | i can connect over phpmyadmin |
| [23:31:24] | skub: | on the BE |
| [23:31:30] | skub: | ohh, k |
| [23:31:47] | skub: | but phpmyadmin runs on BE or FE ? |
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| [23:32:06] | olsta: | phpmyadmin run on the computer where are the BE too |
| [23:32:19] | olsta: | and on the computer where are the FE |
| [23:32:22] | Pogonip_: | olsta; This is a pretty good guide btw https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_gutsy |
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| [23:33:54] | skub: | "telnet 192.168.2.34 3306" on the FE gives you some strange looking output, or "connection refused" error? |
| [23:33:56] | Pogonip_: | olsta; This is the page your looking for though. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_Frontend_Desktop |
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| [23:37:06] | Pogonip_: | olsta; This is important. The default for the backend's mysql database is to only be accessible from the local machine. To connect to it from a frontend running on another machine, you will need to comment out the "bind-address=107.0.0.1" in the backend machine's /etc/mysql/my.cnf and restart mysql with "/etc/init.d/mysql restart". |
| [23:38:08] | olsta: | wow |
| [23:38:14] | olsta: | thx i will test |
| [23:39:29] | olsta: | i have only /etc/my.cnf |
| [23:39:45] | olsta: | and there is not a pass like bind-address |
| [23:40:50] | mzb_d800: | olsta: check your mysql.txt files ... there should be one under /etc/mythtv/ , under ./.mythtv/ in your (mythtv) user's directory ... and if you've been playing for a while ... you've probably also got mysql.txt under root's homedir too |
| [23:41:02] | mzb_d800: | $ nestat -nap | grep sql |
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| [23:42:31] | olsta: | DBHostName this line in mysql.txt from localhost to ip? |
| [23:42:47] | mzb_d800: | yes |
| [23:43:15] | mzb_d800: | you need to ensure a) that the user+pass are correct for the (relevant) user b) the sql server has permissions set for that user AND from that host |
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| [23:43:41] | skub: | olsta: "telnet 192.168.2.34 3306" on the FE gives you some strange looking output, or "connection refused" error? |
| [23:43:44] | mzb_d800: | you can check that easily with phpmyadmin ... ensure to Flush Privileges when you've changed something |
| [23:44:10] | mzb_d800: | skub: is the mythtv user the same as the user he's logged in as? |
| [23:44:29] | skub: | dont know |
| [23:44:33] | mzb_d800: | :) |
| [23:44:43] | mzb_d800: | so, it makes more sense to try something like: |
| [23:45:19] | mzb_d800: | $ mysql -uMYUSER -pMYPASS -hMYHOST mythconverg -e "SELECT * FROM channel;" |
| [23:45:22] | mzb_d800: | or similar |
| [23:45:40] | mzb_d800: | where the MYUSER is the user that the FE and BE run as |
| [23:45:40] | olsta: | DBType=QMYSQL3 is correct? |
| [23:45:44] | mzb_d800: | yes |
| [23:45:47] | olsta: | k |
| [23:45:47] | skub: | sounds good |
| [23:46:11] | mzb_d800: | s/MYHOST/MYSQLSERVER |
| [23:46:24] | mzb_d800: | (or IP address) |
| [23:46:47] | mzb_d800: | note the lack of spaces ;) |
| [23:46:52] | skub: | :) |
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| [23:47:28] | olsta: | ok i paste the error: http://rafb.net/p/vhfbBC19.html |
| [23:47:52] | olsta: | i change fpr user and root the ip on backend machine in the mysql.txt and restart mysql |
| [23:48:31] | mzb_d800: | on the sqlserver: $ netstat -nap | grep sql |
| [23:48:48] | mzb_d800: | you should have something like: |
| [23:48:51] | mzb_d800: | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1191/mysqld |
| [23:48:58] | olsta: | i use arch and there is no command with netsat in which package is this |
| [23:49:29] | BULLE: | [bulle@localhost sports]$ rpm -qf $(which netstat) |
| [23:49:30] | BULLE: | net-tools-1.60–73 |
| [23:49:47] | skub: | hm, maybe different mysql-server and mysql-client versions? |
| [23:50:29] | olsta: | netstat -nap | grep sql |
| [23:50:29] | olsta: | unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 28319 7764/mysqld /tmp/mysql.sock |
| [23:50:29] | olsta: | unix 3 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 28340 7764/mysqld /tmp/mysql.sock |
| [23:51:37] | skub: | olsta: please paste also your /etc/my.cnf somewhere |
| [23:51:43] | olsta: | k mom |
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| [23:53:04] | olsta: | http://rafb.net/p/fVmDCY58.html |
| [23:53:39] | skub: | comment out line 38 "skip-networking" |
| [23:53:45] | skub: | and restart mysql-server |
| [23:53:50] | olsta: | k |
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| [23:54:39] | skub: | your "netstat -nap | grep sql" should also look different after this |
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| [23:54:51] | skub: | at leas one "tcp [.....]" line |
| [23:55:38] | mzb_d800: | which, btw, needs to be listening on 0.0.0.0 rather than 127.0.0.1 |
| [23:56:21] | skub: | yes, should now... theres no bind-address within his my.cnf |
| [23:56:43] | olsta: | Access denied for user 'root'@'192.168.2.27 |
| [23:57:00] | skub: | after which command? |
| [23:57:05] | olsta: | mythfrontend |
| [23:57:13] | olsta: | on the fe machine |
| [23:57:32] | mzb_d800: | right, that's not the name of the user that mythtv (back or front) runs as, right? |
| [23:57:41] | mzb_d800: | (or the name of the user in mysql.txt) |
| [23:58:35] | mzb_d800: | what is DBUserName set to? |
| [23:59:12] | mzb_d800: | if you are running the frontend as root, you're doing something wrong ;) |
| [23:59:46] | mzb_d800: | you would usually set the frontend up as user=mythtv (on a standalone box), or as your "normal" user on a multi-purpose box |
| [23:59:48] | olsta: | no i running the frontend not as root, but root is the name from mysql |
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