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| [00:00:20] | mzb_d800: | although, having said that ... I have bluetooth covering my house (and outside) pretty well ... it's just that the AD2P would probably require a fair bit of bandwidth |
| [00:00:41] | mzb_d800: | (which would also limit your ability to use wifi in that area .... etc) |
| [00:01:00] | mzb_d800: | ie. bluetooth messy .... RF simple (just get the right frequency) |
| [00:01:01] | black_Nightmare_: | hmm RF.. *wonders where to find some* |
| [00:01:29] | ali1234: | get an ipod->fm and some old radios... |
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| [00:03:08] | black_Nightmare_: | umm no thanks ali |
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| [00:10:06] | tzanger: | good evening |
| [00:10:26] | tzanger: | can someone explain to me the idea of multiple mythtv backends? I totally get multiple frontends |
| [00:10:51] | tzanger: | does it basically mean I can have a backend for cable, a backend for OTA and a backend for FTA satellite or something and the frontends just see one "mass" of channels? |
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| [00:10:56] | tzanger: | or is there more to it than that? |
| [00:12:24] | directhex: | tzanger, you're not forced to compartmentalize so much if you don't need to |
| [00:12:35] | directhex: | tzanger, but yes, the frontends see all the backends combined as one |
| [00:12:40] | ali1234: | you can have all those in one backend if you want. multiple backends just spread out the work. especially comercial flagging transcoding etc |
| [00:12:40] | GreyFoxx: | basically more backend mean more pci slots, more drives, more cpu's for transcoding/commercial flagging etc |
| [00:12:47] | tzanger: | directhex: understood.. I'm just thinking of a lack of PCI card space or something |
| [00:13:04] | tzanger: | interesting |
| [00:13:06] | directhex: | tzanger, for example, yes |
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| [00:13:55] | GreyFoxx: | my slave backend (which writes over nfs to the master) has 2 TB of diskspace for video storage, and the master has 1TB for recordings,music, photos etc |
| [00:14:01] | GreyFoxx: | I have tuners in both boxes |
| [00:14:10] | tzanger: | hmm |
| [00:14:12] | tzanger: | interesting |
| [00:17:04] | GreyFoxx: | and I have a small army of frontends |
| [00:18:24] | tzanger: | yeah I just have the one front end in the living room (diskless) but will be adding either an xbox frontend or a mediamvp frontend in the basement for the kids |
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| [00:18:37] | tzanger: | and of course my desktop system is a frontend so I can watch documentaries while I work |
| [00:21:02] | mzb_d800: | tzanger: it's also possible to have a backend without tuners specifically for commflagging + transcoding |
| [00:21:26] | mzb_d800: | (eg. if your other BE's are too slow|busy) |
| [00:23:51] | tzanger: | mzb_d800: hmm I didn't realize that |
| [00:24:21] | mzb_d800: | might sound silly ... but it's handy if you have a xen server |
| [00:24:24] | tzanger: | yeah |
| [00:25:53] | tzanger: | I'm working on an idea for a geographically-distributed network of backends... of course commflag/transcode and livetv wouldn't work, but scheduling a recording on a remote server type stuff |
| [00:26:16] | tzanger: | like you're going up to the cottage or a summer home... flag the programs to record from your local frontend |
| [00:26:23] | tzanger: | I know there's mythweb but it's not quite the same idea |
| [00:26:40] | tzanger: | unfortunately it falls into the gray area the myth team works so hard to stay out of |
| [00:27:40] | tzanger: | are xboxes noisy? I like my frontend because it's diskless, but I don't think a diskless xbox is possible |
| [00:27:50] | GreyFoxx: | Very noisy |
| [00:27:56] | tzanger: | bah |
| [00:28:02] | tzanger: | they're cheap which is why I was looking at 'em |
| [00:28:08] | tzanger: | that and xbox games of course fo rthe kids |
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| [00:28:27] | tzanger: | I think I can pick up a modded xbox at one of the pawn shops for like $40 |
| [00:28:41] | tzanger: | add the xbox remote ofr $10-$20 and that's a damn cheap frontend |
| [00:30:50] | tzanger: | got one of those old athlon shuttle pcs for my mom's back/frontend |
| [00:30:59] | tzanger: | mediamvp isn't a bad little box |
| [00:31:04] | tzanger: | ugh |
| [00:31:39] | black_Nightmare_: | heh I thought about these sktA shuttle/msi cubes for a moment but decided against it and to work with my existing microatx board instead (a bit for the sake of my own preference of sound chipset too) ^_^ |
| [00:32:17] | tzanger: | this box was free so I can't complain |
| [00:32:42] | tzanger: | what's the recommended analog cable/OTA card these days? is the PVR150 still tops or has it been replaced |
| [00:33:40] | black_Nightmare_: | tzanger...heh :) |
| [00:33:47] | black_Nightmare_: | what cpu you have in it now? |
| [00:33:53] | tzanger: | um |
| [00:34:05] | tzanger: | athlon XP 2100+ |
| [00:34:22] | tzanger: | VT8375 (S3 card) for video |
| [00:34:38] | tzanger: | it's got a Conexant CX23880 helper in it |
| [00:34:46] | black_Nightmare_: | ah hm...I had a 2100+ for a short time before too.. 1.74ghz and ran well with just a small amd fan |
| [00:34:46] | tzanger: | not sure if linux can use it or not |
| [00:34:54] | tzanger: | yes that's the one |
| [00:34:58] | black_Nightmare_: | the only issue tho was... |
| [00:35:07] | tzanger: | it's a gay silver/green color and the fucking blue leds drive me nuts but whatever |
| [00:35:18] | tzanger: | my mom should enjoy it |
| [00:35:22] | black_Nightmare_: | two blatty gigabyte boards and finally I got a bit fed up that I just sold it as a scrap system .. still hating gigabyte yet to today |
| [00:35:29] | black_Nightmare_: | oh well |
| [00:36:25] | tzanger: | never had any issues like that |
| [00:37:04] | black_Nightmare_: | well close to $300 gone in two motherboards really is enough anyhow ^_^ |
| [00:37:10] | tzanger: | yeah I would agree |
| [00:38:43] | mzb_d800: | never had a real problem with GA mobos (Epox blew on me once tho) ... but I've now gone to Asus|Abit in preference. |
| [00:38:48] | black_Nightmare_: | reminds me of one dorm stay once .. was somewhere in summer-fall season ... and a few good hot days once and would you know what..the entire a/c system crashed offline so dorm rooms were quite hot from morning to when the a/c finally got fixed somewhere at night ... |
| [00:39:19] | black_Nightmare_: | my system didn't have any issue except for that the hd probably didn't really like the heat for it always screeched nearby the entire time but it did still work |
| [00:40:04] | black_Nightmare_: | I think the store (in the next day) had several rash of overheated/failed systems piling up to repair tho hehehe |
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| [00:41:12] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb...my old board is a qdi-grp .. not quite a heard-of name I know but still ^_^ |
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| [00:42:15] | mzb_d800: | I'd better do a survey out of my old collection someday :| |
| [00:43:05] | mzb_d800: | must have 20–30 mobo's not in cases, and another 40–50 in cases ... all wild guesses :) |
| [00:43:16] | mzb_d800: | (hoarding is hereditary;) |
| [00:43:34] | mzb_d800: | but they're all *old* |
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| [00:43:57] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb...heh hmm do you have cards as well? |
| [00:44:24] | tzanger: | what's the competing standard to blu-ray? I can't think of the name of it now |
| [00:44:28] | mzb_d800: | err ... yeah ... no idea of the number ... how does a dozen boxes sound? :) |
| [00:44:46] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb..heh...where you from again? |
| [00:44:51] | mzb_d800: | tas.au |
| [00:44:59] | black_Nightmare_: | tzanger... how about wikipedia telling you? :P |
| [00:45:27] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb...australlia? oh hmmm ok |
| [00:45:59] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb...if you ever come across an oddball card you always could figure shipping it over the ocean via stnadard fare to me? :P |
| [00:46:02] | black_Nightmare_: | just a silly thought ;) |
| [00:46:17] | mzb_d800: | maybe |
| [00:46:46] | mzb_d800: | although I suspect that anything you'd be interested in would be something I'd be interested in for myself ;P |
| [00:47:04] | mzb_d800: | either way ... what are you after? |
| [00:47:14] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb..heh |
| [00:48:38] | mzb_d800: | I've stopped doing the mass collecting these days .. now I just get stuff that others can't get working |
| [00:49:17] | mzb_d800: | and specific items that I *need* on ebay |
| [00:49:21] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb...oh hmm well to start off with: orangemicro orangelink cards, digital i/o (I have two old issues with lot of ads for 8/16bit isa ones heh), any unusual combo cards (eg nic+scsi, sb16+vga, etc well you know), and hmm who really knows |
| [00:49:47] | mzb_d800: | no, sorry |
| [00:49:56] | mzb_d800: | what sort of digital I/O ? |
| [00:50:06] | black_Nightmare_: | I still remember once seeing one very odd photo... sb16 + ati rage + intel nic all in one SINGLE isa card 0_o |
| [00:50:20] | mzb_d800: | heh |
| [00:50:21] | black_Nightmare_: | didn't notice any visible maker text tho |
| [00:51:10] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb..oh for sampling & output altogether .. just like with analog i/o cards |
| [00:51:51] | mzb_d800: | I have a *lot* of weird things around ... hard to say off the top of my head ... you'd need to be more specific |
| [00:52:48] | black_Nightmare_: | heh ok |
| [00:53:12] | black_Nightmare_: | at least the video card I want I already know some sources .. the sound card hmm still working on where to find some ... :p |
| [00:53:53] | mzb_d800: | digital I/O does ring a bell ... but the only thing I can think of off the top of my head is a 24-line card which was a kit |
| [00:54:09] | mzb_d800: | (probably published by Silicon Chip mag) |
| [00:54:41] | mzb_d800: | but I've got vague plans for that one ;) |
| [00:54:54] | black_Nightmare_: | heh ok :p |
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| [00:58:52] | mzb_d800: | I've got a couple of SB AWE32 cards which were nice (and big!) for their time ... one even has 2 SIMM slots for up to 2MB additional recording buffer (wow;) |
| [01:00:39] | black_Nightmare_: | heh...not the type I was looking for but yeah thats nice |
| [01:00:41] | mzb_d800: | nice ISA video card in original box ... forgot the brand now ... pro graphics (ex. architect) ... used to cost au$2000 new |
| [01:01:11] | black_Nightmare_: | isa video card.. 8bit or 16bit? :p |
| [01:01:19] | mzb_d800: | heh |
| [01:01:21] | mzb_d800: | 16 |
| [01:01:31] | black_Nightmare_: | hmmm lets see.... pro graphics... |
| [01:01:32] | mzb_d800: | (I said "nice isa") ;)) |
| [01:01:38] | mzb_d800: | high res |
| [01:01:46] | mzb_d800: | (for it's time) |
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| [01:02:42] | Dabian: | OK ... I am somewhat able to watch telly with myth now.. |
| [01:02:44] | black_Nightmare_: | only card with 'pro graphics' in name in the th99 guide is this one http://th99.80x86.ru/v/A-B/50040.htm |
| [01:02:44] | black_Nightmare_: | ;) |
| [01:02:50] | gbee: | http://miffteevee.co.uk/themes/metallurgy.html#OSD |
| [01:02:56] | black_Nightmare_: | if thats not it then well it must not be in the th99 list then |
| [01:02:57] | black_Nightmare_: | :p |
| [01:03:34] | Dabian: | Now, how do I switch channel? |
| [01:04:20] | Dabian: | I would have thought that would be easy to find out in the documentation .. but apparently its well hidden. |
| [01:04:38] | mzb_d800: | up | down ... and then enter? |
| [01:04:41] | gbee: | teasers are all I can offer at the moment, the preview release is going to be delayed for a few days |
| [01:04:49] | gbee: | or channel number, then enter (ok) |
| [01:05:00] | Dabian: | mzb: Lemme try :) |
| [01:05:06] | gbee: | or S for program guide, then select channel and press ok |
| [01:05:20] | mzb_d800: | black_Nightmare_: yep, something like that |
| [01:06:01] | mzb_d800: | rings a bell, anyway |
| [01:06:17] | black_Nightmare_: | ;) |
| [01:07:02] | mzb_d800: | familiar name, board looks about right, as do specs ... so I'd say that's the one |
| [01:07:23] | mzb_d800: | got box, manuals and drivers for it around the place |
| [01:08:02] | mzb_d800: | vax 4000/100 :))) (sweet machine) |
| [01:08:11] | black_Nightmare_: | lol |
| [01:08:18] | mzb_d800: | had it netbooting netbsd for a while |
| [01:08:43] | mzb_d800: | *massive* internal bandwith |
| [01:08:53] | mzb_d800: | about as fast as a P90 |
| [01:09:19] | mzb_d800: | has both SCSI and DSSI (like SCSI on steroids) |
| [01:09:28] | mzb_d800: | 128MB RAM |
| [01:09:53] | Dabian: | /usr/share/doc/mythtv/keys.txt.gz or similar. |
| [01:10:20] | mzb_d800: | Dabian: google mythtv keybinding (first hit) |
| [01:10:55] | mzb_d800: | Dabian: you can also just enter the channel numbers |
| [01:11:21] | mzb_d800: | (oops, read above;) |
| [01:11:35] | mzb_d800: | (enter is not necessary) |
| [01:12:08] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb..how much you have in way of agp cards just for curiousity sake? ;) |
| [01:12:36] | mzb_d800: | not a great deal ... but: |
| [01:12:38] | mzb_d800: | matrox g450 + g550 |
| [01:12:47] | mzb_d800: | (g550 is low profile) |
| [01:12:52] | Dabian: | never mind |
| [01:12:59] | mzb_d800: | mx400 |
| [01:13:03] | Dabian: | Turns out myth kills X now ... not sure why. |
| [01:13:10] | black_Nightmare_: | heh mzb...anything in any way of 3dfx or early nvidia? :p |
| [01:13:13] | Dabian: | Going to reboot the box to make sure its not hardware related. |
| [01:13:29] | mzb_d800: | not in agp |
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| [01:13:40] | mzb_d800: | got some early voodoo stuff |
| [01:13:54] | black_Nightmare_: | ah ok |
| [01:14:01] | black_Nightmare_: | me thinking about settling on a 3500TV :p |
| [01:15:45] | black_Nightmare_: | should be a bit of fun with several of my still-liked old cd games which have glide alternatives themself ;) |
| [01:16:21] | mzb_d800: | well, with the remote working in the garage now, and not being able to think of any mythboxen-related things to do today, I guess I'd better rewire the g/f's workstation |
| [01:17:02] | mzb_d800: | and then tidy up the lounge + dining (*sigh*) ... no excuses left :) |
| [01:17:11] | black_Nightmare_: | hehehe |
| [01:17:49] | mzb_d800: | I'll just go and make the announcement to the "Appointment Secretary" (she's got a couple of days off work) |
| [01:18:15] | mzb_d800: | (YAY ... reduced Daddy duties!) |
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| [01:26:44] | mzb_d800: | yep ... that plan has the thumbs up ... off to the dining room :| |
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| [02:32:43] | defaultro: | hi folks, is there a way for mythtv to autosense that our resolution has changed? I tried executing xrandr from 1080 to 720 and mythfrontend didn't change the size |
| [02:33:00] | defaultro: | i have to quit it for it to know |
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| [02:39:30] | iamlindoro: | No. You need to restart or change theme. |
| [02:39:45] | defaultro: | oh, what theme then |
| [02:40:19] | defaultro: | i'm using projectgayhem |
| [02:40:32] | iamlindoro: | No, from any theme to any other theme |
| [02:40:39] | iamlindoro: | will refresh size |
| [02:40:40] | defaultro: | oh |
| [02:40:47] | defaultro: | so it's not really automatic :( |
| [02:40:52] | iamlindoro: | Nope |
| [02:41:17] | defaultro: | or is there any mythfrontend parameter that will let us refresh? |
| [02:41:53] | defaultro: | this way, after executing xrand via lirc, the next command would be mythfrontend --refreshtheme |
| [02:42:33] | defaultro: | or I can do it this way, killall -TERM mythfrontend && mythfrontend :) |
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| [03:36:06] | viridari: | Time-Warner of Raleigh is a bunch of fascists |
| [03:37:29] | viridari: | notice how they encrypt everything except what the FCC requires them not to: http://pastebin.ca/792046 |
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| [04:45:59] | pestilence: | what's the budget way of getting an LIRC remote for myth? i suppose i need both a IR reciever and a remote... |
| [04:47:34] | Captain_Murdoch: | budget way is buying a packard bell remote and receiver off ebay for < $10 including shipping. |
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| [04:48:37] | pestilence: | that sounds like a great plan to me. what's the drawback? |
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| [04:49:55] | pestilence: | this? http://cgi.ebay.com/Packard-Bell-Media-Remote . . . cmdZViewItem |
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| [04:50:30] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes, and here's another: http://cgi.ebay.com/Packard-Bell-Fast-Media-R . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [04:51:27] | Captain_Murdoch: | probably main drawback is that it doesn't have the normal PLAY, PAUSE, FFWD, REW, etc. keys you'd find on a VCR remote, so you just map those keys as you want. I've been using them for 4+ years now on a few of my frontends. |
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| [04:51:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | I don't see the keys as an issue. it maps nicely. |
| [04:51:42] | pestilence: | ah. |
| [04:51:56] | flexy: | is here any finnish myth users, I need some help with deinterlacing and filters? Actually, anybody who has any idea how to get the tv picture looking better might be able to help. GUI looks very very good, but the actual tv broadcast... d'oh! |
| [04:52:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | some people like having the little << >>, etc. keys. |
| [04:52:06] | pestilence: | so as long as i can paint a "play" marking on it with nailpolish for my parents, it'll do the job? :-D |
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| [04:53:38] | pestilence: | i guess for $8 i can't go too wrong |
| [04:57:34] | pestilence: | hrmm. the wiki says it is very sensitive. |
| [04:57:36] | pestilence: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PackardBell |
| [04:57:52] | pestilence: | has that been your experience as well, Captain_Murdoch? |
| [04:59:44] | cmoates: | Is there a (simple?) way to stream an MPG _to_ mythtv? |
| [04:59:57] | cmoates: | MythStream looks to do it but is an unofficial plugin, so not sure how that works out |
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| [05:06:59] | Pogonip_: | On a remote frontend DBHostName in mysql.txt should be set to the IP of the backend I want to connect to right? |
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| [05:10:33] | Captain_Murdoch: | pestilence: I haven't had any issues with it. I sit directly in front of the TV though usually, not off to one side. and I'm fairly level with the receiver as I have it taped to the bottom of my HDTV set. the receiver doesn't have a wide field of view, definitely not 90 or 180 degrees. |
| [05:10:41] | Captain_Murdoch: | cmoates: for what? testing? |
| [05:12:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | pestilence: here's my .lircrc file if you want to take a look. http://www.bc2va.org/chris/tmp/.lircrc_packard_bell |
| [05:12:26] | pestilence: | Captain_Murdoch: ah, ok. one more question, since that is a receiver/remote combo, couldn't you just use any remote with the reciever? i.e. couldn't i configure LIRC to understand the remote that controls the tv? |
| [05:13:04] | pestilence: | thanks, i grabed your lircrc file. |
| [05:14:16] | tcpsyn: | heh. Everytime I pop in it's an lirc discussion. |
| [05:14:36] | tcpsyn: | wonder if the lirc folks know there software is difficult. |
| [05:14:53] | tcpsyn: | /there/their |
| [05:14:57] | pestilence: | tcpsyn: oh, i haven't had any problems with it. yet. |
| [05:15:11] | tcpsyn: | I remember it being a pain. |
| [05:15:25] | pestilence: | works great for my hauppage card/remote, using the config files available for it. |
| [05:15:47] | tcpsyn: | yep. mine too, just not without a headache. |
| [05:16:14] | tcpsyn: | but, my configuration is a little different. |
| [05:16:41] | pestilence: | tcpsyn: maybe you can answer this. if you have a IR reciever and run LIRC, can you couple that with any IR remote? |
| [05:17:01] | tcpsyn: | I've tried to use my onkyo remote with no luck. |
| [05:17:04] | pestilence: | or is there something more subtle that i don't understand |
| [05:17:27] | tcpsyn: | I can't learn it, irw doesn't show any input. |
| [05:17:31] | tcpsyn: | just seems to be ignored. |
| [05:17:41] | pestilence: | so perhaps some recievers aren't capable of detecting some remotes? |
| [05:17:47] | tcpsyn: | I have no idea. |
| [05:17:49] | pestilence: | ok |
| [05:17:54] | tcpsyn: | I would think they would. |
| [05:17:56] | tcpsyn: | that it wouldn't matter. |
| [05:18:04] | flexy: | as far as tv's inbuild osd and xorg logs are to believed, I have 50Hz vertical refresh rate, shouldn't the bob deinterlacing be the best to watch pal? |
| [05:18:06] | tcpsyn: | but, from what I saw, that's not the case. |
| [05:19:04] | pestilence: | the thing that gets me is, the laptop i'd like to use for a frontend has what appears from the outside to be an IR port. but i guess it's just for looks |
| [05:19:33] | pestilence: | it doesn't show up in any hardware listings. |
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| [05:20:41] | tcpsyn: | oh yeah |
| [05:20:45] | tcpsyn: | I had that problem. |
| [05:20:51] | tcpsyn: | with a toshiba laptop |
| [05:20:54] | tcpsyn: | drove me nuts. |
| [05:21:12] | tcpsyn: | theres just a soulder point on the board there. |
| [05:21:15] | tcpsyn: | with no reciever. |
| [05:21:34] | tcpsyn: | I use lircd as a listener. |
| [05:21:43] | tcpsyn: | and listen for events on the backend |
| [05:22:07] | tcpsyn: | that's how I use my haupagge reciever (which is on my backend) to control my frontend. |
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| [05:22:34] | tcpsyn: | so you can do the same... |
| [05:23:07] | pestilence: | your backend must be pretty close to your frontend |
| [05:23:37] | pestilence: | there's something i bet nobody has ever said on irc, ever. |
| [05:23:57] | tcpsyn: | heh. |
| [05:24:08] | tcpsyn: | yeah, they're both in the same room. |
| [05:24:31] | pestilence: | in this case, the backend will be on a different floor, so unless i hang the backend from the ceiling and run wires, i don't think its feasible. |
| [05:24:37] | tcpsyn: | but the reciever gets pretty good distance. |
| [05:24:45] | pestilence: | maybe i could use a series of mirros |
| [05:24:47] | pestilence: | mirrors |
| [05:25:02] | tcpsyn: | you could run just the reciver. |
| [05:25:07] | tcpsyn: | not the whole backend. |
| [05:25:14] | tcpsyn: | but yeah. |
| [05:25:31] | tcpsyn: | I'd like to say that'd be lame. |
| [05:25:38] | tcpsyn: | but, it'd be kinda slick. |
| [05:25:44] | tcpsyn: | that's exactly what I would do :) |
| [05:26:25] | flexy: | howcome bob deinterlacing causes choppy video with totally screwed lipsync? |
| [05:26:56] | tcpsyn: | xvmc? |
| [05:27:11] | flexy: | no, libmpg |
| [05:27:22] | flexy: | I can try that too (again) |
| [05:28:04] | tcpsyn: | bob is for xvmc. |
| [05:28:15] | flexy: | ahaa |
| [05:28:27] | tcpsyn: | you probably want kernel |
| [05:29:00] | flexy: | well, sharp edges look jagged and living. and osd text horizontal parts seems to be flickering |
| [05:29:08] | flexy: | ok, I'll try that too |
| [05:29:13] | flexy: | again... |
| [05:29:45] | tcpsyn: | It's linux ... mess with it, mess with it, mess with it, it works |
| [05:30:05] | tcpsyn: | I had the same thing going on. |
| [05:30:24] | tcpsyn: | xvmc seemed to take care of it |
| [05:30:34] | tcpsyn: | I updated my nvidia driver too |
| [05:30:42] | flexy: | yep. I've been messing with myth about a week now |
| [05:30:45] | tcpsyn: | don't know if that had anything to do with it |
| [05:30:47] | flexy: | done that too |
| [05:31:08] | flexy: | lipsync came back |
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| [05:31:28] | flexy: | osd letters are fine |
| [05:32:03] | tcpsyn: | you doing hd? |
| [05:32:17] | flexy: | horizontally running text on the news is a little choppy |
| [05:32:45] | flexy: | no, the source is sd, but the display is 50" with 1280x720p |
| [05:32:55] | tcpsyn: | holy crap |
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| [05:32:58] | flexy: | little too unforgiving display |
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| [05:33:25] | tcpsyn: | 50" is insane |
| [05:33:55] | flexy: | but, I've been using that with vdr about half a year now, using a full featured dvb cards RGB output, I can't get anywhere near to that picture quality in myth... |
| [05:35:04] | tcpsyn: | you probably want xvmc with bob. |
| [05:35:23] | flexy: | that was totally unbearable |
| [05:35:49] | tcpsyn: | did you set up XvMCConfig? |
| [05:35:53] | flexy: | but, I'll try that again, to compare with kerneldeint |
| [05:35:58] | flexy: | ummh |
| [05:36:00] | flexy: | how? |
| [05:36:38] | tcpsyn: | add the /path/to/libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamc.so.1 to /etc/X11/XvMCConfig |
| [05:37:14] | squidly: | hello. I'm having issues with video coruption in my mythtv computer. I update my xorg and my nvidia drives and I removed compiz fusion. Not my xine mplayer and mythtv out puts get messed up at random times |
| [05:37:23] | flexy: | ok, definately, I have not done that, unless nvidias driver setup did that |
| [05:37:36] | squidly: | does anyone anve an idea why that would be? |
| [05:38:04] | tcpsyn: | flexy, nope, I don't think it would do it automatically. |
| [05:38:08] | squidly: | google, rolling back my xorg, and the nvidia drivers have not helped. |
| [05:38:17] | squidly: | i'm not totaly stumped. |
| [05:38:18] | tcpsyn: | flexy, so do that, then use nvidia-settings to enable opengl vsync |
| [05:38:25] | squidly: | it seems to br random |
| [05:38:36] | tcpsyn: | squidly, messed up how |
| [05:38:39] | flexy: | tcpsyn: it seems that I dont have that file... updating the locate database now... |
| [05:38:56] | tcpsyn: | just locate libXvMC |
| [05:38:57] | squidly: | tcpsyn: I get green screans in xine, and mythvideo |
| [05:39:13] | squidly: | the other times its 100% corupt output and totaly lockes up my system |
| [05:40:22] | tcpsyn: | do you still have compositing on? |
| [05:40:30] | tcpsyn: | even though you've removed compiz? |
| [05:40:43] | squidly: | tcpsyn: i dont konw |
| [05:40:58] | squidly: | what is the xorg.conf opton? |
| [05:40:58] | flexy: | tcpsyn: ok, it was there, but without the path /usr/lib/ I think that's enough? |
| [05:41:50] | tcpsyn: | flexy, without the path? |
| [05:42:06] | tcpsyn: | there are probably more than one libXvMC |
| [05:42:07] | flexy: | just plain libXvMC.so.1 |
| [05:42:29] | tcpsyn: | do you have a libXvMCNVIDIA* |
| [05:42:42] | tcpsyn: | should have come with the driver |
| [05:42:49] | tcpsyn: | /usr/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.100.14.19 |
| [05:42:54] | tcpsyn: | or so.. |
| [05:42:57] | flexy: | yep |
| [05:43:03] | tcpsyn: | try that |
| [05:43:05] | flexy: | .23 at the end |
| [05:43:07] | flexy: | ok |
| [05:43:08] | tcpsyn: | yea |
| [05:43:45] | flexy: | restarting X |
| [05:43:51] | tcpsyn: | squidly, it would be under extensions |
| [05:44:06] | tcpsyn: | I did some googling on it too, a few people said that it's a codec problem. |
| [05:44:09] | tcpsyn: | with ffmpeg |
| [05:44:20] | squidly: | tcpsyn: I think i got it |
| [05:44:24] | tcpsyn: | squidly, nice |
| [05:44:45] | squidly: | I hade it inebaled |
| [05:44:50] | squidly: | lets see how it works |
| [05:46:25] | squidly: | tcpsyn: nope |
| [05:46:39] | flexy: | tcpsyn: osd "broke", with bobdeint. it went black&white with "noise" |
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| [05:46:50] | tcpsyn: | standard or via xvmc |
| [05:46:57] | flexy: | xvmc |
| [05:47:07] | tcpsyn: | standard xvmc or via xvmc |
| [05:47:20] | flexy: | standard, cause I have nvidia |
| [05:47:23] | flexy: | not via :) |
| [05:47:29] | tcpsyn: | try via |
| [05:47:40] | flexy: | huh, ok |
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| [05:48:58] | flexy: | via works the same way, main menus are ok, but osd is B&W with noise |
| [05:49:05] | tcpsyn: | noise? |
| [05:49:37] | flexy: | actually perhaps just the horizontal parts of letters are flickering |
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| [05:49:57] | flexy: | + the B&W |
| [05:50:02] | tcpsyn: | what card |
| [05:50:23] | flexy: | nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1) |
| [05:51:00] | tcpsyn: | same as mine. |
| [05:51:25] | tcpsyn: | do you have composite enabled in xorg.conf |
| [05:52:33] | cmoates: | Captain_Murdoch, to stream from my replaytv |
| [05:52:33] | flexy: | no, atleast not intentionally, I'm using dvi to hdmi |
| [05:52:39] | cmoates: | It can stream mpg |
| [05:52:39] | squidly: | tcpsyn: this is a jpg of what I get |
| [05:52:41] | squidly: | http://www.codestorm.org/files/mythtv.jpg |
| [05:53:04] | tcpsyn: | well thats disgusting |
| [05:53:36] | tcpsyn: | I've seen that with mplayer |
| [05:53:45] | tcpsyn: | on various pr0ns. |
| [05:53:45] | squidly: | tcpsyn: my image? |
| [05:53:47] | squidly: | lol |
| [05:53:50] | tcpsyn: | yea |
| [05:54:10] | squidly: | that was mythfrontend > watch recoarding > pick one |
| [05:54:17] | squidly: | happens with xine as well |
| [05:54:22] | tcpsyn: | have you tried the different video output codecs in xine? |
| [05:54:38] | squidly: | yes |
| [05:54:52] | flexy: | squidly: I sometimes get the same, when trying to look at the live-tv |
| [05:54:54] | tcpsyn: | did you have composit? |
| [05:54:59] | tcpsyn: | that's not good |
| [05:55:01] | squidly: | yes |
| [05:55:05] | squidly: | that is tv-live as well |
| [05:55:06] | defaultro: | hey guys, can we sell at ebay but payment would be money order and local pickup only? |
| [05:55:14] | tcpsyn: | sell what |
| [05:55:24] | defaultro: | i'm selling my subwoofer |
| [05:55:30] | tcpsyn: | yea, you can do that. |
| [05:55:33] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:55:39] | tcpsyn: | I did, not that long ago |
| [05:55:42] | tcpsyn: | a subwoofer actually. |
| [05:55:45] | defaultro: | just in case it doesn't get sold at audiogon |
| [05:55:49] | tcpsyn: | kid came and met me at the gas station to get it. |
| [05:55:54] | defaultro: | cool |
| [05:56:03] | tcpsyn: | he paid cash though |
| [05:56:11] | defaultro: | i think, 30 days is what I have to wait before i try ebay |
| [05:56:14] | tcpsyn: | you have to specify in the listing. |
| [05:56:17] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:56:27] | defaultro: | so how do ebay earn then? |
| [05:56:39] | tcpsyn: | I think when I saw that green crap... it was an opengl thing. |
| [05:56:45] | tcpsyn: | er. opengl had something to do with it. |
| [05:56:51] | defaultro: | what green? |
| [05:56:53] | tcpsyn: | or.. at least it was one of the things I messed with |
| [05:57:00] | tcpsyn: | defaultro, different conversation. |
| [05:57:04] | defaultro: | yeah,i know |
| [05:57:11] | defaultro: | where were you seeing it? |
| [05:57:14] | tcpsyn: | http://www.codestorm.org/files/mythtv.jpg |
| [05:57:26] | tcpsyn: | I was seeing it in mplayer |
| [05:57:31] | tcpsyn: | he's seeing it in myth and xine. |
| [05:57:31] | defaultro: | ah |
| [05:57:41] | defaultro: | looks like from a tv signal |
| [05:57:48] | defaultro: | i saw that when I was using ati capture card |
| [05:57:54] | squidly: | tcpsyn: and mplayer |
| [05:57:59] | tcpsyn: | ohh. |
| [05:58:03] | tcpsyn: | maybe he's got it |
| [05:58:05] | squidly: | but its random |
| [05:58:08] | tcpsyn: | bad signal |
| [05:58:08] | defaultro: | let's ask him |
| [05:58:13] | defaultro: | not bad signal |
| [05:58:15] | tcpsyn: | no? |
| [05:58:18] | squidly: | no not bad sig |
| [05:58:20] | defaultro: | it's on the driver |
| [05:58:27] | defaultro: | does the guy have an ati? |
| [05:58:34] | squidly: | nvidia card, 6800's sli config |
| [05:58:38] | defaultro: | oh |
| [05:58:38] | squidly: | and pvr-150 |
| [05:58:49] | tcpsyn: | you should be fine with the pvr |
| [05:58:50] | defaultro: | when did it start happening? |
| [05:59:01] | defaultro: | it's in the video card |
| [05:59:04] | squidly: | a couple of weeks ago |
| [05:59:10] | defaultro: | have you tried other vid card? |
| [05:59:12] | squidly: | I've rolled back to driver |
| [05:59:15] | squidly: | dont have one |
| [05:59:17] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:59:29] | defaultro: | it happened when you upgraded the driver? |
| [05:59:33] | tcpsyn: | glxinfo work for you? |
| [05:59:49] | squidly: | glxinfo works |
| [05:59:51] | defaultro: | i'm hoping that's not tvtime |
| [05:59:56] | tcpsyn: | glxinfo | grep rendering |
| [05:59:59] | defaultro: | what is square thing though? |
| [06:00:13] | defaultro: | is it an app? |
| [06:00:18] | defaultro: | or mysterious square? |
| [06:00:21] | tcpsyn: | he's running myth with a different geometry |
| [06:00:27] | defaultro: | oh |
| [06:00:33] | defaultro: | what res? |
| [06:00:47] | squidly: | a varidy of tehm |
| [06:00:52] | defaultro: | huh |
| [06:00:57] | squidly: | the size |
| [06:01:02] | squidly: | 23:59 < squidly> glxinfo works |
| [06:01:05] | squidly: | arg |
| [06:01:29] | defaultro: | what is your xorg x&y? |
| [06:01:34] | squidly: | ok direct rendering: yes, |
| [06:01:54] | squidly: | "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" |
| [06:02:03] | defaultro: | oh, those are standard res |
| [06:02:11] | squidly: | yea. its output on my monitor |
| [06:02:39] | defaultro: | those are easily supported by fx50, an old vid |
| [06:02:48] | defaultro: | try finding a card and test |
| [06:02:59] | squidly: | i cant. I dont have anyother video cards |
| [06:03:06] | squidly: | it works fine in doze though |
| [06:03:09] | defaultro: | but what about your mythtv, is it set to 0? |
| [06:03:25] | squidly: | what do you mean is mmy mythtv set to 0? |
| [06:03:32] | defaultro: | appearance |
| [06:03:36] | defaultro: | X and Y |
| [06:03:43] | defaultro: | just above X offset and Y offset |
| [06:03:48] | squidly: | where do I check that? |
| [06:03:54] | defaultro: | appearance |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | setup |
| [06:04:04] | defaultro: | then appearance |
| [06:04:06] | defaultro: | i forgot |
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| [06:04:14] | squidly: | yes |
| [06:04:16] | defaultro: | i think, same level as TV settings |
| [06:04:19] | squidly: | all offset are 0 |
| [06:04:23] | defaultro: | not the offset |
| [06:04:32] | defaultro: | the first 2 numbers |
| [06:04:37] | defaultro: | x and y also |
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| [06:04:49] | squidly: | they are all set to 0 |
| [06:04:53] | defaultro: | cool |
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| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | something on your video card |
| [06:05:13] | defaultro: | i have seen those kind of issue and it's related to vid |
| [06:05:21] | flexy: | what filter can I use to "soften" the image? There is no traditional noise, as the broadcast is digital, but mpeg2 artifacts, cause of those SOBs at the broadcasting company are being so cheap with the bitrates |
| [06:05:22] | squidly: | but then why would it start stop start stop |
| [06:05:31] | defaultro: | you aren't even maxing your vid card's capabilities |
| [06:05:41] | squidly: | not even close |
| [06:06:03] | defaultro: | i don't know sir |
| [06:06:07] | defaultro: | my card is simple |
| [06:06:12] | defaultro: | 6600 GT agp |
| [06:06:12] | squidly: | Video timing method: SGI OpenGL |
| [06:06:21] | squidly: | could that be part of the issue? |
| [06:06:24] | flexy: | tcpsyn: osd is OK again, I reverted the XvMCConfig file... |
| [06:06:35] | defaultro: | i don't know |
| [06:06:47] | squidly: | defaultro: i'm using 6800's |
| [06:06:52] | defaultro: | but SLI |
| [06:07:01] | squidly: | let me kill the sli |
| [06:07:11] | defaultro: | maybe, that could be causing it |
| [06:07:22] | defaultro: | i don't have experience with those kind of cards |
| [06:07:36] | squidly: | yes.. its not been an issue until very recently |
| [06:07:51] | defaultro: | i can easily tell that something is wrong somewhere in linux, nvidia driver |
| [06:07:59] | defaultro: | because you said, it works great in doze |
| [06:08:16] | squidly: | I noticed it started when I had issues with my keyboard lcd's too |
| [06:08:21] | defaultro: | try to think what you did that brought that issue up |
| [06:09:02] | squidly: | ok let me try now |
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| [06:09:20] | defaultro: | tcpsyn, you there? |
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| [06:09:43] | tcpsyn: | sorry |
| [06:09:44] | tcpsyn: | whats up |
| [06:09:52] | squidly: | hmm.. looks like sli may be the issue |
| [06:09:54] | defaultro: | quick question about shipping in ebay |
| [06:09:54] | squidly: | let me try somethign |
| [06:10:19] | defaultro: | i have 2 cisco switches and 2 cisco routers that I want to sell. How will I find out how much I need to put for the shipping cost? |
| [06:10:31] | squidly: | defaultro: what ones? |
| [06:10:37] | defaultro: | what? |
| [06:10:37] | ** squidly is a security engineer ** | |
| [06:10:47] | defaultro: | cool |
| [06:10:51] | squidly: | what routers and what switches? |
| [06:10:52] | tcpsyn: | who'd you steal em from. |
| [06:10:59] | squidly: | lol tcpsyn |
| [06:11:04] | defaultro: | :D |
| [06:11:07] | tcpsyn: | you measure and weight them |
| [06:11:18] | tcpsyn: | and from that you can calculate the shipping based on zip code |
| [06:11:19] | defaultro: | i bought it from ebay a long time ago, and some were given by friends |
| [06:11:24] | defaultro: | ah |
| [06:11:32] | defaultro: | cisco catalyst 2924 xl |
| [06:11:39] | defaultro: | the other one is 1900 |
| [06:11:46] | defaultro: | then cisco 4000 with np4t |
| [06:11:50] | defaultro: | and cisco 2501 |
| [06:11:52] | defaultro: | old ones |
| [06:12:04] | defaultro: | i'm thinking of selling them really cheap |
| [06:12:18] | squidly: | all of them together perhsps 500 |
| [06:12:24] | defaultro: | oh |
| [06:12:29] | defaultro: | i never expected that |
| [06:12:30] | defaultro: | :D |
| [06:12:30] | yorkie: | any chance of help with new mythbuntu install? |
| [06:12:35] | defaultro: | i was expecting it at 200 |
| [06:12:43] | defaultro: | sweet |
| [06:12:50] | squidly: | the 4000 is the best price |
| [06:12:56] | defaultro: | i guess, i have to sell them all together |
| [06:13:14] | squidly: | the 2500 (junk) the 2924 not to bad. what switch os, and the 1900 (junk) |
| [06:13:19] | defaultro: | or start bidding at 100 and reserver price at 300 |
| [06:13:33] | defaultro: | yeah, that's true |
| [06:13:37] | tcpsyn: | dont ship out of the country |
| [06:13:39] | squidly: | start bidding at 100 set reserve at 200 |
| [06:13:44] | squidly: | and hope |
| [06:13:51] | defaultro: | yep, i will do it only in u.s. |
| [06:13:56] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [06:14:15] | defaultro: | i actually posted my sub at chicago craiglist |
| [06:14:17] | defaultro: | let me pull it |
| [06:14:26] | squidly: | hmm |
| [06:14:36] | defaultro: | http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ele/483424602.html |
| [06:14:54] | squidly: | I changed the SLI config from auto to Yes |
| [06:14:57] | squidly: | it seems to be working |
| [06:14:58] | defaultro: | I might bring down the price after 10 or 15 days |
| [06:15:01] | defaultro: | sweet |
| [06:15:01] | squidly: | defaultro: you live in chicago!?! |
| [06:15:04] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [06:15:06] | defaultro: | why? |
| [06:15:12] | defaultro: | you near me? |
| [06:15:22] | ** squidly is moivng to Elk Grove Village :D ** | |
| [06:15:26] | squidly: | in about 2 weeks |
| [06:15:26] | defaultro: | sweet |
| [06:15:30] | defaultro: | where are you at? |
| [06:15:33] | defaultro: | right now |
| [06:15:39] | squidly: | right now Mc Henry |
| [06:15:42] | defaultro: | lol |
| [06:15:44] | defaultro: | i am in mchenry |
| [06:15:48] | defaultro: | where at exactly |
| [06:15:50] | squidly: | you fucken shitting me!! |
| [06:15:52] | defaultro: | no |
| [06:15:56] | defaultro: | where at |
| [06:15:59] | squidly: | you know the Meadows? |
| [06:16:04] | defaultro: | hmmm |
| [06:16:08] | squidly: | by the kirk home on 120? |
| [06:16:18] | defaultro: | i haven't been there |
| [06:16:20] | defaultro: | what city |
| [06:16:27] | defaultro: | i lived in LITH before for 3 years |
| [06:16:32] | defaultro: | you know LITH? |
| [06:16:36] | squidly: | ugg. i grew up in Algonquin |
| [06:16:38] | squidly: | lol |
| [06:16:39] | defaultro: | hahaha |
| [06:16:45] | defaultro: | cool man |
| [06:16:54] | defaultro: | why are you leaving are beautiful quiet area? |
| [06:16:54] | squidly: | very cool |
| [06:17:01] | squidly: | I work downtown |
| [06:17:04] | squidly: | and moving in closer |
| [06:17:05] | defaultro: | ah |
| [06:17:13] | defaultro: | i travel 30 miles everyday :( |
| [06:17:17] | defaultro: | one way to vernon hills |
| [06:17:21] | squidly: | ahh eww |
| [06:17:22] | squidly: | that sucks |
| [06:17:25] | defaultro: | i know |
| [06:17:34] | squidly: | I used to live out past rockford |
| [06:17:37] | defaultro: | wow |
| [06:17:44] | defaultro: | that's about 26 miles from where i live now |
| [06:17:52] | squidly: | yea |
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| [06:18:10] | defaultro: | glad to see someone using mythtv |
| [06:18:11] | defaultro: | :D |
| [06:18:15] | squidly: | :D |
| [06:18:20] | squidly: | defaultro: /msg? |
| [06:18:22] | defaultro: | how long have you been using it? |
| [06:18:27] | defaultro: | sure |
| [06:18:29] | squidly: | about 6 monts |
| [06:18:34] | defaultro: | pm me |
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| [06:21:03] | flexy: | where I can find explanations on all filters and their options? |
| [06:21:18] | tcpsyn: | myth wiki |
| [06:21:21] | tcpsyn: | is the best place |
| [06:23:23] | flexy: | ok |
| [06:24:00] | flexy: | I've been looking at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Filter_Instructions but there seems not to be a softening filter? |
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| [06:24:29] | flexy: | I would like to try one to soften the image... the big display shows the lack of bitrate too much... |
| [06:24:33] | Pogonip_: | What command can I use to see if mythbackend is running? |
| [06:24:45] | flexy: | ps aux |grep mythbackend |
| [06:32:25] | Pogonip_: | How can I stop mythbackend? |
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| [06:34:16] | tenchi21: | Hi |
| [06:34:43] | tenchi21: | i'm trying to follow this guide http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Kworld_ATSC_110 but i get errors at step 1 |
| [06:35:32] | tenchi21: | i'm running the 2.6.22-14-generic kernel on ubuntu 7.10 |
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| [06:41:07] | flexy: | Pogonip_: in debian you can do that with /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop |
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| [06:43:17] | ** squidly shoots my computer ** | |
| [06:43:25] | Pogonip_: | flexy; Thanks again. |
| [06:43:36] | flexy: | no problem |
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| [06:45:24] | squidly: | defaultro: ok sli=yes no joy :( |
| [06:45:57] | defaultro: | :( |
| [06:46:14] | squidly: | and sli=no no joy :( |
| [06:46:21] | defaultro: | i'm out of ideas |
| [06:46:22] | squidly: | X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8 Major opcode: 140 Minor opcode: 14 Resource id: 0x1ff |
| [06:46:27] | squidly: | what does that mean? |
| [06:46:38] | defaultro: | i've never seen those |
| [06:46:44] | defaultro: | is it in mytbackend log |
| [06:47:02] | squidly: | no its in the frontend log |
| [06:47:07] | defaultro: | ah, looks like normal |
| [06:47:13] | defaultro: | i have them too i guess |
| [06:47:20] | squidly: | 2007-11–21 00:46:29.602 MPEGRec(/dev/v4l/video0) Error: Error getting codec params using old IVTV ioctl eno: Bad address (14) |
| [06:47:24] | squidly: | that is in the backend long |
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| [06:47:49] | defaultro: | do you recall what you last did before this thing happened? |
| [06:47:56] | cmoates: | Sorry for just tuning in, can you give me the really short version of your problem squidly? Or is it not worth it? |
| [06:48:04] | defaultro: | have you tried install the latest stable? |
| [06:48:10] | defaultro: | or svn the release |
| [06:48:22] | squidly: | i'm usign gentoo |
| [06:48:36] | defaultro: | oh |
| [06:48:40] | squidly: | and if you go to www.codestorm.org/files/mythtv.jpg that is what my screen shows |
| [06:48:46] | defaultro: | i always do from scratch :( |
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| [06:48:54] | squidly: | and it happens in xine and mplayer as well |
| [06:48:58] | defaultro: | yep, i saw it earlier |
| [06:49:02] | squidly: | defaultro: i'm to lazy. dont have time |
| [06:49:09] | defaultro: | tuner |
| [06:49:13] | defaultro: | tuner type maybe |
| [06:49:22] | defaultro: | modprobe |
| [06:49:31] | cmoates: | This is what you see when... you try to watch something from your tuner? |
| [06:49:32] | defaultro: | my capture cards are all hd |
| [06:49:36] | cmoates: | Or with any mpg, even a known good one? |
| [06:50:08] | defaultro: | squidly, what if you play an mpg file using mplayer, does it happen? |
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| [06:50:19] | squidly: | cmoates: that is what I get if I watvh tv, know good mpgs, in mythtv, or mplayer or xine |
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| [06:50:51] | cmoates: | if you cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg and then copy that to a working machine (windows maybe) does the video play correctly? |
| [06:51:00] | squidly: | cmoates: correct |
| [06:51:06] | defaultro: | that's a good test |
| [06:51:37] | cmoates: | Have you rebuilt X recently, squidly? |
| [06:51:56] | squidly: | I updated X ahotu 2 weeks ago |
| [06:51:57] | cmoates: | That smacks of a library decoding bug |
| [06:52:03] | cmoates: | When did this start to occur? |
| [06:52:08] | squidly: | about 2 weeks |
| [06:52:11] | cmoates: | ... |
| [06:52:17] | squidly: | the same time I notice I didnt have any key board leds |
| [06:52:22] | cmoates: | You have a faulty x build |
| [06:52:29] | squidly: | i tried rolling back my nvidia drivers, |
| [06:52:34] | cmoates: | Not the drivers |
| [06:52:34] | squidly: | i'm not going to roll back X |
| [06:52:37] | cmoates: | the X subsystem |
| [06:52:44] | cmoates: | You don't need to roll it back |
| [06:52:47] | cmoates: | but I'd do a rebuild |
| [06:52:50] | cmoates: | Something didn't build right |
| [06:52:55] | defaultro: | maybe, x could be the culprit then |
| [06:53:02] | cmoates: | Are you using xvmc/ |
| [06:53:04] | squidly: | roll back and rebuild the X system |
| [06:53:13] | squidly: | how do I check? |
| [06:53:29] | cmoates: | Is xvmc in your use flags? |
| [06:53:54] | cmoates: | If no, it's fine, it's just an option for nvidia cards |
| [06:53:58] | squidly: | nope |
| [06:54:16] | squidly: | what does it do? I think I had it before |
| [06:54:18] | cmoates: | could be libmpeg or whatever it is that decodes that |
| [06:54:23] | cmoates: | It's x video motion compensation |
| [06:54:27] | squidly: | ahh |
| [06:54:29] | cmoates: | offloads deinterlacing to the video card |
| [06:54:33] | squidly: | ahh |
| [06:54:46] | cmoates: | I'd seriously consider looking at the deps for X |
| [06:54:50] | cmoates: | And rebuilding all of that |
| [06:54:51] | cmoates: | go to bed |
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| [06:54:56] | cmoates: | and check it tomorrow :) |
| [06:55:04] | squidly: | god to bed and work and check in the mornign |
| [06:55:07] | defaultro: | squidly, I need to take a rest now. been sleeping lately |
| [06:55:14] | defaultro: | at around 3am :D |
| [06:55:17] | squidly: | defaultro: np.. ty for the help |
| [06:55:21] | cmoates: | Yeah, it's almost 2 here |
| [06:55:22] | defaultro: | anytime |
| [06:55:24] | squidly: | same here |
| [06:55:30] | cmoates: | But, that looks like it's not reading the right memory when it does the decode |
| [06:55:36] | defaultro: | i'm off though :D |
| [06:55:41] | defaultro: | but just tired |
| [06:55:54] | cmoates: | I've seen very similar looking images when I've done screwy things with opengl programmin |
| [06:55:59] | cmoates: | And read "random" memory |
| [06:56:07] | squidly: | ok.. so rebuild X totaly |
| [06:56:10] | cmoates: | I would |
| [06:56:12] | cmoates: | It can't hurt |
| [06:56:16] | cmoates: | And I think it's likely in there somewhere |
| [06:56:24] | defaultro: | cmoates, before you sleep, 1 question |
| [06:56:27] | cmoates: | Sure |
| [06:56:33] | defaultro: | what can you say about 7.3 Xorg? |
| [06:56:45] | cmoates: | I haven't really had the time to look at it, unfortunately |
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| [06:56:49] | defaultro: | k |
| [06:56:52] | cmoates: | Work about 70hr/wk right now :( |
| [06:56:55] | defaultro: | i think i'm on 7.1 |
| [06:56:59] | squidly: | cmoates: defaultro that is when I started having issues. |
| [06:57:09] | defaultro: | :) |
| [06:57:21] | cmoates: | I'm checking what version I'm using, one sec |
| [06:57:39] | defaultro: | lucky so far, never had any major issues since 2005 |
| [06:58:03] | defaultro: | cmoates, check out my mythtv screenshots |
| [06:58:13] | cmoates: | where? |
| [06:58:23] | cmoates: | I'm using 7.2 |
| [06:58:25] | defaultro: | i'm pulling |
| [06:58:38] | cmoates: | Anyhow, squidly, another idea |
| [06:58:49] | cmoates: | use mythtranscode to convert the mpg to an avi or something |
| [06:58:57] | cmoates: | then test to see if it transcoded properly on your windows machine |
| [06:59:04] | defaultro: | http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p . . . ostcount=900 |
| [06:59:08] | cmoates: | If it turns out bad, it's one of the codec libraries |
| [06:59:14] | squidly: | when I went to xorg 7.3. dont expect your keyboard leds to work any more if you |
| [06:59:18] | cmoates: | That could prevent you from rebuilding all of X |
| [06:59:36] | defaultro: | i'm driving an entry level crt projector using vga out from nvidia 6600GT and MythTV |
| [06:59:43] | cmoates: | defaultro, looks good |
| [06:59:45] | cmoates: | projector? |
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| [06:59:50] | defaultro: | sony 1272 |
| [06:59:59] | defaultro: | i really love it |
| [07:00:06] | cmoates: | your digicam has a bad pixel :( |
| [07:00:10] | defaultro: | but sometimes, once or twice a week, i need to converge |
| [07:00:16] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [07:00:28] | defaultro: | i got reap off by canon |
| [07:00:29] | cmoates: | At first I thought it was my LCD :) |
| [07:00:39] | defaultro: | i saw it all from my screenshots |
| [07:00:45] | cmoates: | yeah :( |
| [07:00:46] | defaultro: | looks like i need to return in |
| [07:00:48] | defaultro: | it |
| [07:00:55] | cmoates: | for 1 pixel, good luck |
| [07:00:59] | cmoates: | unless it's still in store return window |
| [07:01:04] | defaultro: | yeah, i got that from them for free |
| [07:01:25] | defaultro: | i had s400 and they were offering $119 to replace with S500 |
| [07:01:27] | cmoates: | Anyhow squidly, there's two things to consider, transcode test or rebuild X |
| [07:01:31] | cmoates: | It's possible that pixelformats changed |
| [07:01:44] | cmoates: | Did you rebuild the various libraries that talk to X, when you rebuilt X? |
| [07:01:57] | cmoates: | Ah |
| [07:02:01] | cmoates: | I have a G5 that I like a lot |
| [07:02:05] | cmoates: | But it's getting older |
| [07:02:17] | cmoates: | Gotta buy a new TV first thoguh |
| [07:02:21] | defaultro: | G5? |
| [07:02:22] | cmoates: | My 50" SXRD is toast :( |
| [07:02:25] | cmoates: | Canon G5 |
| [07:02:27] | defaultro: | ah |
| [07:02:34] | defaultro: | i want to buy an xti next time |
| [07:02:36] | defaultro: | it's an slr |
| [07:02:39] | cmoates: | rebel |
| [07:02:41] | defaultro: | yea |
| [07:02:46] | cmoates: | It's a good entry level SLR |
| [07:02:49] | defaultro: | they say that SLRs are really good |
| [07:02:50] | defaultro: | oh |
| [07:02:55] | cmoates: | It is a good camera |
| [07:02:55] | defaultro: | it's an entry level? |
| [07:03:00] | cmoates: | Rebel line is entry level |
| [07:03:08] | cmoates: | But |
| [07:03:11] | defaultro: | i would want the next higher up |
| [07:03:12] | cmoates: | Unless you are serious |
| [07:03:17] | cmoates: | It's probably not worth going higher |
| [07:03:18] | defaultro: | gothca |
| [07:03:20] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:03:25] | cmoates: | Rebel is a good camera |
| [07:03:27] | defaultro: | so rebel is ok then |
| [07:03:29] | cmoates: | yes |
| [07:03:31] | defaultro: | cool |
| [07:03:42] | cmoates: | If I didn't already own Nikon lenses, I'd consider a Rebel |
| [07:03:49] | cmoates: | But I'd be throwing out $2k in lenses |
| [07:03:50] | defaultro: | is it true that SXRD are really nice/ |
| [07:04:05] | cmoates: | The UI sucks |
| [07:04:07] | cmoates: | The picture is great |
| [07:04:09] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:04:13] | defaultro: | is it plasma? |
| [07:04:17] | defaultro: | lcd or dlp? |
| [07:04:18] | cmoates: | No, rear projection |
| [07:04:23] | cmoates: | It's like DLP but not |
| [07:04:26] | defaultro: | ah, just like mine |
| [07:04:26] | cmoates: | it's their own tech |
| [07:04:34] | defaultro: | i have a mitsubishi ws48313 |
| [07:04:38] | cmoates: | And it doesn't have the rainbow effect |
| [07:04:43] | cmoates: | (which I suffer from) |
| [07:04:43] | defaultro: | i opened it and saw 3 guns |
| [07:04:55] | cmoates: | I got a mitsu 62" DLP first |
| [07:04:56] | defaultro: | my mits is crt based too |
| [07:05:00] | cmoates: | Brought it home, got a headache |
| [07:05:05] | defaultro: | why |
| [07:05:09] | cmoates: | DLP rainbows |
| [07:05:11] | defaultro: | ah |
| [07:05:17] | cmoates: | Took it back, got the SXRD |
| [07:05:18] | defaultro: | i love my CRT RPTV |
| [07:05:19] | cmoates: | No complaints |
| [07:05:26] | defaultro: | it's 4 years old |
| [07:05:32] | cmoates: | Until 2 weeks ago, the repair bill is $1400 |
| [07:05:34] | defaultro: | more than 40 hours a week |
| [07:05:37] | cmoates: | So I'm just going to buy an LCD instead |
| [07:05:41] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:05:46] | cmoates: | For that kind of money |
| [07:05:50] | cmoates: | I can get a nw damned tv |
| [07:05:51] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [07:06:00] | cmoates: | But |
| [07:06:02] | cmoates: | It's sad |
| [07:06:06] | defaultro: | my wife wants to get rid of my Mits |
| [07:06:10] | cmoates: | Too big? |
| [07:06:13] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [07:06:17] | defaultro: | but quality is phenomeal |
| [07:06:18] | cmoates: | DLP is much thinner |
| [07:06:28] | cmoates: | And should be cheap this christmas season |
| [07:06:30] | defaultro: | i always tell her about the flesh, blacks |
| [07:06:39] | defaultro: | life like |
| [07:06:49] | defaultro: | but man, it's like 250 lbs |
| [07:06:52] | cmoates: | Yup |
| [07:06:57] | cmoates: | DLP is less than 1/4 that |
| [07:06:57] | cmoates: | :) |
| [07:07:01] | defaultro: | yeah, 60ls |
| [07:07:03] | defaultro: | lbs |
| [07:07:08] | defaultro: | or 100 |
| [07:07:11] | cmoates: | if that |
| [07:07:17] | cmoates: | My SXRD is... 70? |
| [07:07:18] | cmoates: | i think |
| [07:07:20] | cmoates: | not heavy |
| [07:07:30] | cmoates: | Just big and unweildy, so you need two people to move it |
| [07:07:32] | defaultro: | i saw a 65"dlp at tiger direct, picture q was excellent |
| [07:07:36] | cmoates: | yup |
| [07:07:41] | cmoates: | They have a very good PQ |
| [07:07:46] | cmoates: | As long as you don't see rainbows :) |
| [07:07:48] | defaultro: | i didn't see the rainbows you mentioned |
| [07:07:57] | cmoates: | Is your projector DLP? |
| [07:08:04] | defaultro: | it's crt projector |
| [07:08:06] | cmoates: | Most people don't |
| [07:08:07] | defaultro: | check this out |
| [07:08:27] | defaultro: | i do a lot of calibration too |
| [07:08:27] | defaultro: | http://restricted.dyndns.org/crtinaction.html |
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| [07:08:48] | defaultro: | i tried all posible locations but really didn't see the rainbox |
| [07:08:52] | defaultro: | rainbows |
| [07:09:02] | cmoates: | No, that's good |
| [07:09:06] | cmoates: | You'll almost immediately notice them |
| [07:09:09] | defaultro: | however on their plasmas, lcd, i don't like it |
| [07:09:11] | cmoates: | For me, it got a LOT worse when I was tired |
| [07:09:13] | defaultro: | ah |
| [07:09:22] | defaultro: | the dlp i saw was similar to my CRT |
| [07:09:27] | cmoates: | It's really really bad on things like powerpoint |
| [07:09:32] | defaultro: | ah |
| [07:09:33] | cmoates: | Where you have a white background with black tetx |
| [07:09:37] | cmoates: | That sharp edge |
| [07:09:39] | defaultro: | ah |
| [07:09:41] | cmoates: | Any time I scan my eyes left or right |
| [07:09:48] | cmoates: | It's like lucky charms land sneaks out of the TV |
| [07:09:51] | defaultro: | you saw my huge projector? :) |
| [07:09:53] | cmoates: | Super annoying :) |
| [07:09:54] | cmoates: | yeah |
| [07:09:57] | cmoates: | What's the res? |
| [07:10:06] | defaultro: | 1920x1080i at 72hz |
| [07:10:29] | defaultro: | i actually have 5 res stored on the memory on this sony pj |
| [07:10:49] | cmoates: | You repair it yourself? |
| [07:10:52] | cmoates: | I see it taken apart |
| [07:10:59] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [07:11:08] | defaultro: | some guys at avs forum helped me |
| [07:11:16] | defaultro: | took me 1 week to figure it out |
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| [07:11:22] | cmoates: | get it cheap? |
| [07:11:32] | defaultro: | i bought 2 of them,1 dead for myparts and 1 working |
| [07:11:36] | defaultro: | dead was $50 |
| [07:11:37] | cmoates: | It looks really heavy :) |
| [07:11:43] | defaultro: | working is $125 |
| [07:11:47] | cmoates: | Wow, so cheap |
| [07:11:52] | defaultro: | but when I got it home, it was freaking intermittent |
| [07:12:03] | defaultro: | so the guys told me to swap boards |
| [07:12:11] | defaultro: | until it became stable |
| [07:12:29] | defaultro: | everynight until 4am, i studied convergence, heehe |
| [07:12:41] | defaultro: | it was hard at first |
| [07:12:51] | defaultro: | but now, am used to it, still not perfect though |
| [07:13:07] | cmoates: | Looks close though |
| [07:13:21] | defaultro: | the latest ones I have, the earlier link is nice |
| [07:13:26] | defaultro: | it's 8ft wide |
| [07:13:44] | cmoates: | I have to put my TV in a corner, so no projector for me |
| [07:14:01] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [07:14:03] | cmoates: | I only have about 5' side to side |
| [07:14:11] | defaultro: | i was lucky with that $125 |
| [07:14:12] | cmoates: | Hanging a screen would look funny |
| [07:14:30] | defaultro: | although i drove 3 hours to get it |
| [07:14:35] | cmoates: | cheaper than shipping |
| [07:14:47] | defaultro: | yep |
| [07:15:09] | cmoates: | That thing has to weigh 250lbs |
| [07:15:10] | defaultro: | it's got 3500 hours now on the tubes |
| [07:15:18] | defaultro: | nope, it's 145 |
| [07:15:18] | cmoates: | those 3 big lenses + 3 crts |
| [07:15:25] | defaultro: | yep |
| [07:15:30] | squidly: | ok cmoates defaultro thanks and goodnight |
| [07:15:34] | cmoates: | good luck squidly |
| [07:15:34] | defaultro: | aight buddy |
| [07:15:42] | defaultro: | i'm taking off too |
| [07:15:45] | cmoates: | I should too |
| [07:15:46] | defaultro: | i'm leaving my irc on |
| [07:15:48] | defaultro: | :D |
| [07:15:51] | defaultro: | nice chatting with you |
| [07:15:51] | cmoates: | It's 2:15 |
| [07:15:54] | cmoates: | take care |
| [07:15:56] | squidly: | thanks. i'm pulling down from 7.3, gotta a lot of crap to unmerge |
| [07:15:57] | defaultro: | easter where |
| [07:16:02] | defaultro: | jax |
| [07:16:06] | squidly: | defaultro: yes saem here |
| [07:16:09] | cmoates: | PA for me |
| [07:16:11] | defaultro: | ah |
| [07:16:12] | defaultro: | cool |
| [07:16:13] | cmoates: | I used to live in ORL |
| [07:16:16] | squidly: | cmoates: you poor sick fool |
| [07:16:20] | cmoates: | I wish I still did, this time of year |
| [07:16:21] | squidly: | why are you on PA? |
| [07:16:25] | squidly: | lol |
| [07:16:28] | cmoates: | Harrisburg |
| [07:16:34] | squidly: | ok that is not that bad |
| [07:16:34] | cmoates: | And because |
| [07:16:38] | cmoates: | Way better schools for my kids |
| [07:16:44] | cmoates: | Once I can kick them out |
| [07:16:46] | defaultro: | :) cool |
| [07:16:48] | squidly: | I lived in Willow Grove for 2 yersa |
| [07:16:49] | cmoates: | Back to warmer weather :) |
| [07:17:02] | cmoates: | 7 years left, and counting :) |
| [07:17:10] | defaultro: | it's not cold here actually lately, did you notice |
| [07:17:10] | squidly: | cmoates: heh |
| [07:17:16] | defaultro: | last year was |
| [07:17:19] | cmoates: | I had snow on the ground 2 days ago |
| [07:17:21] | cmoates: | It's cold :) |
| [07:17:22] | squidly: | I left PA about 2 yeras god |
| [07:17:28] | defaultro: | wow |
| [07:17:30] | squidly: | my ex was the only reaosn I was there |
| [07:17:42] | squidly: | I kind of miss pa and kind of dont |
| [07:17:46] | cmoates: | It's not awful |
| [07:17:52] | defaultro: | last year january, i went out around 2am, I threw a hot water in air |
| [07:17:56] | cmoates: | But I'd rather have 80 degrees in the winter |
| [07:17:59] | defaultro: | the temp was -30 that night |
| [07:18:13] | cmoates: | where? |
| [07:18:15] | squidly: | actually I wanna go back with what the freak jobs in our .gov is doing right now |
| [07:18:16] | defaultro: | chicago |
| [07:18:18] | cmoates: | ah |
| [07:18:36] | defaultro: | i was just curious if what i saw in youtube were true |
| [07:18:45] | squidly: | what did you see? |
| [07:18:53] | defaultro: | so threw the hot water in air and it changed to smoke |
| [07:19:09] | defaultro: | it was really cool |
| [07:19:28] | defaultro: | it fell like a white fountain or like a baby powder that you are pouring |
| [07:19:48] | cmoates: | It never gets that cold here, so I can't test that :) |
| [07:19:51] | defaultro: | my daughter captured a video of me |
| [07:19:58] | cmoates: | Alright, bedtime for me, you two should do the same :) |
| [07:20:02] | defaultro: | yeah gguys |
| [07:20:05] | defaultro: | let's sleep, LOL |
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| [07:42:58] | lwizardl: | Hi |
| [07:43:23] | lwizardl: | anyone here use a Kworld ATSC 110 ? |
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| [07:53:36] | flexy: | howcome myth does not respond to xy offset setting? |
| [07:58:15] | flexy: | are there any external softening filters? |
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| [08:20:43] | flexy: | I'm using ratpoison window manager, does that prevent the GUI X/Y offsets from working? |
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| [10:30:50] | Boney: | Anyone in Melbourne Australia getting a 'fuzzy' picture for channel 10 with 'jerky' noise? |
| [10:30:56] | Boney: | s/nouse/sound |
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| [11:40:45] | mzb_d800: | Boney: 10 is fine for me (.tas) ... if you don't have a STB to compare to, install gkrellmd on the mythbox and watch from another machine with $ gkrellm -s mythbox |
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| [11:53:24] | mzb_d800: | and I'm still blind |
| [11:53:42] | mzb_d800: | should use autocomplete more often ;) |
| [11:54:46] | rooaus: | I think 10 in Melb broadcast in HD tonight, in case he comes back. |
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| [12:22:11] | black_Nightmare_: | any of you used these xircom combo pccard? (the old dongleless grey&red one for 56K+10baseT yeah) |
| [12:26:26] | mzb_d800: | heh |
| [12:26:33] | mzb_d800: | yeah, got one of them too :) |
| [12:26:44] | mzb_d800: | errr |
| [12:26:54] | mzb_d800: | or is it eth only .. ?? |
| [12:28:33] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb...heh..used it or nah? |
| [12:28:45] | mzb_d800: | yeah .. not for a while though |
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| [12:29:27] | mzb_d800: | most of the older pcmcia stuff I have is unreliable |
| [12:29:32] | black_Nightmare_: | hm me still thinking about finding one of these local and try find where to buy a pcmcia adapter card .. presto, 56K+nic in one single card ^_^ |
| [12:29:42] | mzb_d800: | I use a compaq WL110 in preference now |
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| [12:30:04] | black_Nightmare_: | koutech makes a pcmcia adapter that also has a firewire chip (two firewire ports on a second pci plate) but I haven't been able to find where to retail this tho so lets leave that idea alone |
| [12:30:20] | mzb_d800: | and also have a Pretec CF modem card if I need modem |
| [12:30:35] | mzb_d800: | both were < au$20 |
| [12:30:41] | mzb_d800: | (iirc) |
| [12:31:10] | black_Nightmare_: | here's the link if you were wondering anyhow: http://www.koutech.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=231 |
| [12:31:19] | black_Nightmare_: | not just your plain pcmcia adapter card ;) |
| [12:31:54] | mzb_d800: | I can't say I'm keen on multiple-purpose adapters much ... if they work at all I get hooked on them ... and then WHEN they fail I loose more than just 1 ability |
| [12:32:32] | mzb_d800: | much prefer to buy exactly what I need at minimum price |
| [12:32:49] | mzb_d800: | rather than everything I want at whatever price |
| [12:33:09] | black_Nightmare_: | heh well...I could just do with a single pcmcia adapter (and hope I find one that can use type III thickness anyhow) and swap cards or just .. well you know :p |
| [12:33:10] | black_Nightmare_: | to our own |
| [12:33:21] | black_Nightmare_: | this is an old microatx board again so limited on expansion slots |
| [12:33:23] | mzb_d800: | yep |
| [12:33:52] | mzb_d800: | haven't really got into laptop pcmcia seriously until recently |
| [12:34:15] | mzb_d800: | much preferred to get CF-based stuff to support my ipaqs |
| [12:34:38] | mzb_d800: | and then use CF<=>PCMCIA adaptor if req |
| [12:34:38] | black_Nightmare_: | well I haven't ever seen any realistic combo internet access isa/pci card at all..it seem to only be for laptops :p |
| [12:35:05] | mzb_d800: | combo nic + modem ? |
| [12:35:09] | mzb_d800: | nah |
| [12:35:17] | mzb_d800: | don't waste your time |
| [12:35:26] | mzb_d800: | got limited slots or something? |
| [12:35:40] | clever[rev]: | ive got a problem with 1 of my laptops and pcmcia |
| [12:35:52] | clever[rev]: | i cant seem to even see the pcmcia slots existing from software |
| [12:35:58] | clever[rev]: | lspci cant see anything at all |
| [12:36:03] | mzb_d800: | 2.6 kernel? |
| [12:36:14] | clever[rev]: | 2.6 kernel |
| [12:36:14] | mzb_d800: | pccardctl |
| [12:36:17] | mzb_d800: | (iirc) |
| [12:36:24] | clever[rev]: | and it was working fine in the other laptop |
| [12:36:28] | mzb_d800: | what chipset? |
| [12:36:31] | clever[rev]: | but it died and i moved the whole drive over to another one |
| [12:36:39] | ** clever[rev] looks ** | |
| [12:36:55] | clever[rev]: | the pcmcia modules dont auto load |
| [12:37:02] | clever[rev]: | and i suspect it lacks a pci bus |
| [12:37:07] | mzb_d800: | model of laptop then? |
| [12:37:16] | clever[rev]: | t2150cdt |
| [12:37:28] | mzb_d800: | TOPIC97? |
| [12:37:36] | mzb_d800: | ie. toshiba? |
| [12:37:42] | clever[rev]: | yeah toshiba |
| [12:37:55] | mzb_d800: | good luck ... they're a pita |
| [12:37:58] | clever[rev]: | color screen:P |
| [12:38:09] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb....yeah there's only one single slot I can decidate to internet access hardware so its got to be a xircom combo card through pcmcia adapter ... unless I somehow come across any of these old xircom parallel<->rj45 bridge adapter (I don't even need speed at all so say 70KB/s would be just fine :p) |
| [12:38:10] | clever[rev]: | the other 2 i have are t2100(grey scale screen) |
| [12:38:39] | mzb_d800: | you need to set the BIOS correctly ... and then load the correct module (and possibly blacklist the other) depending on the combo of machine + BIOS setting + wind direction |
| [12:38:40] | clever[rev]: | mzb_d800: i know the slots psysicaly work because iv used them in win95 |
| [12:38:45] | mzb_d800: | yep |
| [12:38:55] | mzb_d800: | P.I.T.A. !!! |
| [12:38:58] | clever[rev]: | and the bios is nearly useless |
| [12:39:15] | clever[rev]: | only 2 ways to get into it |
| [12:39:21] | clever[rev]: | run tsetup.exe from dos |
| [12:39:28] | clever[rev]: | or bootup with the cmos cleared |
| [12:39:32] | mzb_d800: | but there should be a choice between auto, choice 1 and choice 2 (I can't remember the details) |
| [12:39:47] | mzb_d800: | should be a way of getting in from boot |
| [12:40:04] | clever[rev]: | no way i know of to get into bios from bootup |
| [12:40:13] | mzb_d800: | I'd tell you the trick but my Toshiba blew up (piece of crap) |
| [12:40:23] | clever[rev]: | dad thought the whole bios ui was in the tsetup.exe program |
| [12:40:45] | clever[rev]: | one of my t2100's is soaked in koolaid |
| [12:40:52] | mzb_d800: | well there is ... and mine was earlier than yours (300CDS ???) |
| [12:41:24] | mzb_d800: | black_Nightmare_: why do you need modem? |
| [12:41:33] | clever[rev]: | and my hdd is too big for the bios |
| [12:41:38] | clever[rev]: | so grub isnt working right |
| [12:41:54] | clever[rev]: | needing a boot floppy in the external drive |
| [12:41:59] | mzb_d800: | black_Nightmare_: if you're that desperate it would be cheaper to just get a USB2 card and buy adaptors for each purpose |
| [12:42:26] | clever[rev]: | and it cant even play mp3:P |
| [12:42:48] | clever[rev]: | i need to convert it to wav to play without skiping |
| [12:42:57] | mzb_d800: | clever[rev]: I *can* tell you that pcmcia is totally painful on those things ... but it does work if you're prepared to put the effort in |
| [12:43:14] | clever[rev]: | i'll have to google some for it |
| [12:43:16] | mzb_d800: | iirc the BIOS settings were auto, pcmcia or cardbus |
| [12:43:23] | clever[rev]: | but the inet in the hotel is horid |
| [12:43:33] | clever[rev]: | 500ms lag to allmost anything |
| [12:43:49] | mzb_d800: | and if you look at the docs it will give you hints about which combo + driver you need |
| [12:43:51] | clever[rev]: | and im accessing my irc client remotely thru ssh so even line editing lags |
| [12:44:01] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb...tell me any hardware usb modem that'll accept plain simple AT dialing :p |
| [12:44:03] | ** black_Nightmare_ hehs ** | |
| [12:44:14] | clever[rev]: | ive got the docs for the t2100 and it doesnt say much about linux drivers |
| [12:44:15] | mzb_d800: | black_Nightmare_: no idea |
| [12:44:34] | clever[rev]: | black_Nightmare_: get a usb serial port and a plain serial modem:P |
| [12:45:22] | black_Nightmare_: | if I could find one particular orangemicro orangelink pci card I might had been able to locate the nic somewhere else but .. just like with old xircom items, orangemicro cards are a bit hard to find ^-^ |
| [12:45:27] | mzb_d800: | clever[rev]: took me heaps of research to get some sort of action out of toshiba pcmcia ... in the end it just wasn't worth it ... the only thing that made the 300CDS remotely useful (it had a broken lcd) was that it had a USB port |
| [12:45:28] | black_Nightmare_: | heh |
| [12:45:47] | clever[rev]: | mzb_d800: all my toshibas lack usb |
| [12:45:55] | mzb_d800: | I used it as a bluetooth PAN with wifi for a while |
| [12:45:57] | clever[rev]: | and the dell i used to use mainly has the cracked lcd |
| [12:46:29] | black_Nightmare_: | anyway I need to afk for a while |
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| [12:46:44] | mzb_d800: | well, have fun both of you :) ... I need to make an international phone call |
| [12:46:48] | clever[rev]: | i was using the hdd in a cf-25 as a thin client but the motherdboard died |
| [12:49:01] | clever[rev]: | LOL |
| [12:49:10] | clever[rev]: | first page im reading talks of a 1.3 linux kernel.... |
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| [14:24:12] | mzb_d800: | sleepy |
| [14:24:44] | mzb_d800: | sore arms (finished making a wooden mount for a Canon 670U scanner ... finally) |
| [14:26:58] | black_Nightmare_: | :p |
| [14:27:05] | black_Nightmare_: | is it a flatbed scanner? |
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| [14:46:43] | black_Nightmare_: | mzb? |
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| [14:57:48] | black_Nightmare_: | meh quiet |
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| [15:05:39] | tzanger: | hahaha |
| [15:05:43] | tzanger: | stupid listing data |
| [15:05:54] | tzanger: | the CBC morning news goes by two names, depending on the day of hte week |
| [15:06:05] | tzanger: | "CBC Morning News" or "CBC News: Morning" |
| [15:06:31] | tzanger: | they have a 1hr version and a 4hr version that share the name(s) too |
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| [15:10:49] | Esine: | Hey. My recorded programs shows the list reverse |
| [15:11:09] | Esine: | descending order, latest recordings at the bottom. How can I make it show newest recordings at the top? |
| [15:11:36] | Esine: | this is in the media library btw |
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| [15:25:52] | tzanger: | hmm, I know that mythweather in 0.20-fixes is broken because the site that is scraped has changed, but has anyone made an attempt to port -trunk's mythweather over to fix it (assuming that -trunk's mythweather works) |
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| [15:33:02] | gbee: | is anyone here using 1024x576 and TV-out with an Nvidia card? Would you mind posting your modeline since I can't seem to find one that the Nvidia driver will accept as valid |
| [15:33:55] | hashbang: | gbee: ModeLine "1024x576" 19.750 1024 1056 1152 1264 576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync interlace |
| [15:34:05] | hashbang: | gbee: that's using the VGA output, though |
| [15:34:51] | gbee: | I'll give it a go anyway, can't hurt to try |
| [15:35:04] | hashbang: | gbee: I use a VGA->SCART adaptor |
| [15:35:14] | hashbang: | gbee: but that's a true PAL modeline |
| [15:35:41] | hashbang: | gbee: I find I need to use 720x576 for video playback, though |
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| [15:36:34] | gbee: | I've been using 720x576, but because it's not 16:9 the widescreen themes aren't scaled properly, so I wanted to give 1024x576 a go |
| [15:36:47] | hashbang: | gbee: yup, 1024x576 works well for the UI |
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| [15:49:29] | matthew_: | hey, i'm using a nova-t usb, ive setup the firmware etc, but using "scan" doesnt pick up any channels, even with a known good aerial, do i need a booster? (myth doesnt pick up any channels either) |
| [15:51:18] | gbee: | :/ seems after a little reading that the nvidia drivers for the last couple of years or more contain a built in list of valid tv-out modes, it ignores modelines – that lines excludes 16:9 resolutions |
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| [15:52:50] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, if you strings the binary you can see the resoluytions |
| [15:53:09] | GreyFoxx: | they use to allow you to specify them but stopped a couple years ago |
| [15:53:15] | hashbang: | gbee: I think I saw something about disabling edid |
| [15:53:52] | hashbang: | IgnoreEDID = 1 |
| [15:54:18] | gbee: | wouldn't have any effect on TV out since EDID is only used by monitors |
| [15:54:40] | hashbang: | gbee: not entirely sure about that; I wonder if it's hacked into the same mechanism |
| [15:54:57] | gbee: | GreyFoxx: if I knew the exact driver revision I'd downgrade |
| [15:56:31] | GreyFoxx: | It was a while back, probably too far to downgrade |
| [15:56:39] | jams: | hi all |
| [15:57:09] | jams: | for some reason I think that was introduced just after the 7xxx series of drivers |
| [15:57:48] | GreyFoxx: | CustomEDID-TV-1 |
| [15:57:57] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm ight be possible to set some custom stuff after all |
| [15:58:12] | GreyFoxx: | jams: That sounds about right |
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| [16:09:27] | jams: | wow it's taking forever to vacuum this database. The fact it hasn't been done in 2 years might have someting todo with it. |
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| [16:10:56] | gbee: | GreyFoxx: any idea how that would work? sticking in that option doesn't seem to make a difference here |
| [16:11:37] | gbee: | there are a lot of pages which refer to it, but in every one it's just a config where it's commented out |
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| [16:16:03] | Matt: | hey guys |
| [16:16:33] | Matt: | anyone know where mythjobqueue gets it's db settings from when you don't start it from a shell? |
| [16:17:30] | Matt: | if I start it from a shell, it connects back to the master backend fine |
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| [16:18:00] | Matt: | if I start it from an init script, it tries to connect to /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock, which isn't going to work |
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| [16:22:40] | gbee: | sent an email to nvidia, if I get a useful response I'll post it here |
| [16:22:51] | gbee: | not holding my breath |
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| [16:25:03] | gbee: | the only alternative is an additional setting in mythtv to highlight that we are using a non-square pixel setup |
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| [16:40:52] | black_Nightmare_: | hm heh I may come as sounding a bit silly but were hardware sound cards always full height or there's probably been some good low-profile ones as well? |
| [16:41:25] | tank-man: | there are low profile ones |
| [16:43:40] | black_Nightmare_: | hmmm...just curious..mind naming one maker since I haven't seen any aside to these old crap triangle-shaped pci cards with only 3 lines and nothing else for features |
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| [16:46:42] | black_Nightmare_: | hey iamlindoro |
| [16:46:54] | iamlindoro_: | hola |
| [16:48:03] | black_Nightmare_: | how're you? |
| [16:48:39] | iamlindoro_: | Hanging in there, but just logged in to monitor the channel, they expect me to get some work done here this morning :) |
| [16:48:47] | iamlindoro_: | Will be in and out, though |
| [16:49:09] | black_Nightmare_: | heh ok |
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| [16:49:54] | black_Nightmare_: | just curious (as I'm not sure how come tankman isn't responding now heh) but you know if there's any good hardware sound card in low-profile? I only see crappy triangle-shaped one with just 3 audio lines and no other features around here |
| [16:51:30] | iamlindoro_: | Hrm, well I know one that's PCIe, but that probably doesn't help you... also, the Turtle Beach USB one has optical and works great out of the box |
| [16:52:29] | black_Nightmare_: | thanks anyhow...guess I'll just maybe make the case design fit the sound card wo/pciplate itself heh (its noticeable the tallest one of all the things) for now :p |
| [16:52:36] | black_Nightmare_: | going off for now..bye till next time ;) |
| [16:52:50] | iamlindoro_: | seeya |
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| [17:33:06] | Ryushin: | My friend wants a ATSC tuner, but he's a cheap ass. I told him to buy the HD-5500, but he think it's too much. |
| [17:33:22] | Ryushin: | So what ATSC HD tuners work with myth that are cheap? |
| [17:33:34] | iamlindoro_: | What's cheap? |
| [17:34:31] | Ryushin: | Less than $80 |
| [17:34:56] | iamlindoro_: | Kworld 115, $77 at Newegg... or $57 open box |
| [17:36:03] | iamlindoro_: | I'd still rather have a HD 5500, though, and I say that from owning both |
| [17:36:35] | Ryushin: | I have a HD-3000 and a HD-5500. He's just a cheap ass. |
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| [17:36:52] | iamlindoro_: | But, much as I prefer the HD 5500, both work exactly the same... Kworld is just a bit more of a chore to set up |
| [17:36:53] | Ryushin: | Does 2.6.22 support the kworld 115? |
| [17:37:06] | iamlindoro_: | yes |
| [17:37:29] | Ryushin: | How is it more of a paint than the pchdtv cards? |
| [17:38:14] | Ryushin: | more of a pain |
| [17:39:02] | iamlindoro_: | Well, need to get a firmware, and can require a bit of tweaking of config files to force them to detect it as a Kworld 110 instead of "unknown card"... but if you just read the myth wiki page on it, there's no reason you shouldn't have it going in under 20 minutes |
| [17:39:16] | iamlindoro_: | versus the 5500 which, for me at least, has always worked with zero conf |
| [17:39:48] | Ryushin: | Yea, no kidding there. |
| [17:39:54] | Ryushin: | I'll leave it up to him. |
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| [17:42:43] | Ryushin: | Now he wants a dual atsc tuner. Does such a thing exist that will run under myth? |
| [17:42:55] | iamlindoro_: | Hd HomeRun |
| [17:42:58] | iamlindoro_: | but it's not cheap |
| [17:43:00] | fryfrog: | i've not seen one, besides... yeah, that |
| [17:43:23] | iamlindoro_: | He can have lots of features or he can have cheap... not both. And tell him to fuck off for me. |
| [17:43:30] | iamlindoro_: | I hate people like that. |
| [17:43:32] | iamlindoro_: | heh |
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| [17:44:22] | Ryushin: | LOL |
| [17:44:24] | Ryushin: | Yea, I know. |
| [17:44:51] | Ryushin: | He was looking at this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815255030 |
| [17:45:50] | iamlindoro_: | Erm, good luck getting that working in linux |
| [17:46:35] | iamlindoro_: | Although a card with an MPEG-4 encoder would be mad sexy |
| [17:47:00] | Ryushin: | Yea, I agree with that. |
| [17:50:34] | iamlindoro_: | anyway, doesn't seem to be any sort of driver support, experimental or otherwise, for that card |
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| [18:36:51] | hjohnson: | /m/me returns |
| [18:37:22] | hjohnson: | quicky, good, cheap. pick two. |
| [18:37:42] | hjohnson: | grr. I hate hotels that just have wired internet access... then again, hotel wifi tends to suck |
| [18:40:08] | directhex: | hjohnson, there's worse |
| [18:40:19] | directhex: | hjohnson, i went to a hotel that charged £20 a night for wired acess |
| [18:40:42] | directhex: | hjohnson, except the cut-off time for "a night" didn't match with the check in/check out time |
| [18:41:07] | directhex: | so you could end up being charged £60 for net access for a 2-night stay |
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| [18:42:07] | hjohnson: | directhex: Hilton? :P |
| [18:42:42] | ** hjohnson is just staying in a Comfort inn in Ireland.. it's pretty impersonal, but it gets the job done. ** | |
| [18:42:44] | |Torg|: | £20 is about 4x what I pay in the US |
| [18:43:01] | directhex: | hjohnson, no. a crappy hotel oop norf, with a trickly shower and no good beer |
| [18:43:39] | directhex: | |Torg|, the last 2 times i stayed at a hotel on business, costs were about £70 a night in the us, £120 a night in the uk |
| [18:43:54] | directhex: | for £120 you got a room with a crap shower and a single bed |
| [18:44:06] | hjohnson: | yeowch. |
| [18:44:13] | directhex: | for £70 you got a room with a king-size bed, 40" hd plasma, kitchen area, huge bathroom, and 5-man sofa |
| [18:44:18] | |Torg|: | I travel just about every week, rooms go from $150-$250, internet ranges from free to $10 a night |
| [18:44:27] | hjohnson: | i'm paying 89 euros for a nice room with a decent bed. |
| [18:44:29] | directhex: | oh, and free wi-fi |
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| [18:45:03] | |Torg|: | most of the time tho the access is terrible, you have about 250 rooms all shaing one DSL line |
| [18:45:07] | ** hjohnson is in portlaoise Ireland right now. ** | |
| [18:45:18] | hjohnson: | the internet here isn't bad... |
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| [18:45:34] | directhex: | well, i liked my hotel in tampa |
| [18:45:35] | camelreef: | hi all |
| [18:45:43] | directhex: | i disliked my hotel in daresbury |
| [18:45:55] | directhex: | though nothing can compare to my hotel in guardalavaca. but that was five star |
| [18:46:01] | camelreef: | I'm adding a disk in my system tonight |
| [18:46:05] | |Torg|: | mostly I want a room thats quiet, has clean sheet, is clean, and a bathroom that works |
| [18:46:06] | directhex: | and all-inclusive. and wonderful. |
| [18:46:19] | directhex: | really, three weeks of bliss |
| [18:46:20] | |Torg|: | I could care less about TV or the sofa |
| [18:46:20] | camelreef: | and I want an answer I didn't get on the ML |
| [18:47:04] | camelreef: | MythVideo supports a comma-separated list of directories for its sources of videos |
| [18:47:04] | |Torg|: | camelreef: if you dont ask a question you will not get an answer |
| [18:47:12] | cesman: | :) |
| [18:47:21] | camelreef: | is it the same for MythMusic and MythGallery ? |
| [18:47:43] | directhex: | |Torg|, cuba was great. you guys are missing out |
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| [18:47:49] | camelreef: | I could ask again on the ML, but I'm trying something more interactive |
| [18:48:07] | camelreef: | <- Nicolas Will on the ML |
| [18:48:27] | jams: | camelreef- i don't know, but it would be that hard to try and find out |
| [18:48:31] | hjohnson: | i've slept in everything from a 2 person tent (with just me in it) in mud on the arctic tundra to an army-tent with 15 snoring soldiers to a 5 star hotel. :P |
| [18:48:57] | jams: | just a guess, but i would say the answer is no. |
| [18:48:59] | camelreef: | trying, I can always do. But asking and knowing in advance is always better |
| [18:49:00] | |Torg|: | directhex: the only reason I would go to Cuba is to dive, and for that I can go to Mexico, the Caribbean , or Belize |
| [18:49:41] | directhex: | |Torg|, i forgot about all the fishies when we went for a little snorkeling. they were pretty! |
| [18:49:49] | |Torg|: | hjohnson: try the back of an APC |
| [18:49:59] | directhex: | hjohnson, i'll take the 5-star option. especially if there's free rum! |
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| [18:50:24] | camelreef: | oh well. |
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| [18:50:37] | |Torg|: | camelreef: just try it and see what happens |
| [18:50:42] | camelreef: | nevermind, I guess that trying is believing |
| [18:50:48] | camelreef: | thanks |
| [18:50:48] | |Torg|: | at worst you wil ahve to raid them together |
| [18:50:50] | jams: | thats a no for image gallery |
| [18:51:03] | camelreef: | jams, thanks |
| [18:51:08] | camelreef: | ttyl all |
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| [18:51:30] | directhex: | or just use a symlink |
| [18:51:33] | jams: | fool |
| [18:51:35] | directhex: | the easy peasy option. symlink |
| [18:51:40] | jams: | yep |
| [18:51:52] | directhex: | people these days ¬_¬ |
| [18:52:00] | |Torg|: | jame, I would add impatient to that as well |
| [18:52:18] | |Torg|: | err jams, damn fingers |
| [18:52:22] | jams: | heh |
| [18:52:43] | jams: | that took all of 30 secs to give image gallery a try |
| [18:53:10] | jams: | ah well back to midnight |
| [18:53:14] | |Torg|: | my FE only has one disk, so I have noting to test with |
| [18:53:36] | |Torg|: | and ive been thinking of removing that, but the heat from it is not nearly as bad as my master BE |
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| [18:58:22] | |Torg|: | anyway just exactly how much music and pictures do you have, that you need another disk to hold them :P |
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| [19:10:02] | jams: | i have decided that music-ui.xml is just as annoying as ui.xml |
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| [19:16:59] | kale: | which tvtuner card should i pick to receive digital broadcast, and use linux too? |
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| [19:17:36] | iamlindoro_: | kale, depends on country/price range/TV format/cable/Sat/ etc |
| [19:18:08] | iamlindoro_: | ie, ATSC? DVB-C/S/T? |
| [19:18:10] | kale: | iamlindoro_: in in denmark, europe, PAL-B, for analog signals |
| [19:18:26] | iamlindoro_: | kale, so digital, or analog? You have asked for both |
| [19:18:26] | |Torg|: | dvb-t |
| [19:18:38] | omry: | can mythtv used without a tv capture card? |
| [19:18:42] | iamlindoro_: | omry, yes |
| [19:18:47] | kale: | iamlindoro_: my country is switching to digital, so thats what i want |
| [19:19:05] | kale: | |Torg|: so i should get dvb-t? |
| [19:19:08] | omry: | iamlindoro, cool. |
| [19:19:12] | iamlindoro_: | Well, I presume torg is correct... Look on linuxtv for a card that works for your country |
| [19:19:17] | omry: | will try it. freevo is getting old. |
| [19:19:28] | |Torg|: | yes kale, tha is what they are swithing to, unless they went rogue and took up ATSC :) |
| [19:19:30] | iamlindoro_: | linuxtv.org |
| [19:20:02] | kale: | |Torg|: which card could i use for that? |
| [19:20:20] | iamlindoro_: | kale, many options, look on linuxtv.org for supported DVB-T card |
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| [19:20:48] | |Torg|: | kale there arre all kinds of them, I use ATSC and technisat cards |
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| [19:20:54] | |Torg|: | they work well, but there about 3 years old now |
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| [19:21:11] | iamlindoro_: | And yes, looks like DVB in Denmark per dvb.org |
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| [19:21:24] | |Torg|: | http://www.dvb.org/about_dvb/dvb_worldwide/denmark/ |
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| [19:25:37] | mchou: | alright, who wants to be brave? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815153008 |
| [19:25:46] | mchou: | ATSC tuner of $15 |
| [19:25:53] | mchou: | s/of/for |
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| [19:40:54] | bsdfox__: | digital tuners should be pretty cheap soon |
| [19:41:07] | Pogonip_: | Need help with getting access from a remote frontend to backend. DecoderMAD: Failed to open input file. I think I need to give the frontend execute access, but not sure how. |
| [19:42:27] | Pogonip_: | Or can I make the remote frontend a member of mythtv group on the backend? |
| [19:42:54] | bsdfox__: | it's gonna depend on your distro |
| [19:43:10] | Pogonip_: | Ubuntu |
| [19:43:21] | |Torg|: | mchou: have you used any of the USB dvb tuners? I myslef tend to shy away from them. |
| [19:43:35] | kale: | would this card be supported then: http://edbpriser.dk/Products/Listprices.asp?ID=207492 |
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| [19:43:47] | mchou: | |Torg|: nope |
| [19:44:15] | |Torg|: | mchou: I dont even see where to plug in an antenna to it |
| [19:44:23] | mchou: | sigh.... |
| [19:44:32] | mchou: | |Torg|: look again |
| [19:44:49] | mchou: | there are only six sides to that object |
| [19:45:10] | |Torg|: | ahh I see, still tho my current ones owrk |
| [19:45:18] | |Torg|: | if it aint broke..... |
| [19:45:50] | |Torg|: | is there linux drivers for it? |
| [19:45:59] | |Torg|: | err are there |
| [19:46:32] | |Torg|: | no mtter its not available any more anyway |
| [19:47:00] | Pogonip_: | Can anyone help me figure out the permissions to my remote frontend |
| [19:48:37] | |Torg|: | kale: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Philips_SAA7134 |
| [19:51:24] | kale: | |Torg|: thanks for the help, i really appreciate it |
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| [19:51:45] | |Torg|: | kale np but I didnt really help you. I have no idea of how well or not it works |
| [19:52:02] | |Torg|: | so I cant do anything but point you at what driver it uses |
| [19:53:25] | kale: | i might be back when i receive the card ... |
| [19:53:28] | kale: | thanks again |
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| [20:06:12] | _DustyBin: | jesus god, anyone from UK turn on Channel 4.. |
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| [20:07:31] | bsdfox__: | porn? |
| [20:08:45] | fryfrog: | tell us what it is, us poor suckers not in the UK are jelous! |
| [20:09:08] | |Torg|: | religious porn :P |
| [20:09:21] | directhex: | "how to look good naked" |
| [20:09:24] | directhex: | i think |
| [20:10:26] | |Torg|: | with eye glasses? |
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| [20:18:05] | omry: | building using distcc (according to the howto). but I don't think it's using distcc. |
| [20:18:09] | omry: | I ran : make -j 6 CXX=distcc |
| [20:18:21] | |Torg|: | did you export DISTCC_HOSTS? |
| [20:18:23] | omry: | but it's seems to be using normal gcc |
| [20:18:24] | omry: | yes. |
| [20:18:49] | omry: | I followed the instructions on the howto (export, qmake mythtv.pro etc) |
| [20:18:51] | |Torg|: | and you dont have to specifcy CXX, why do you think its not working? |
| [20:19:22] | omry: | I look at the distcc logs an both machines and they are idle. also, according to the build output, it's building with gcc |
| [20:19:34] | omry: | with may be normal, but still – I would expect some activity |
| [20:19:44] | |Torg|: | what does your build ifo say when trying to connect to discc hosts? |
| [20:20:05] | omry: | I don't think it's trying to connect |
| [20:20:19] | |Torg|: | it is, its default for it to try |
| [20:20:41] | |Torg|: | is the remote host running distcc? does it have the same gcc and libc versions? |
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| [20:23:04] | omry: | |Torg|, my code may be outdated, I am updating from svn and trying again. |
| [20:23:19] | omry: | maybe the build is outdated. |
| [20:23:33] | |Torg|: | it would have to be well over a year old |
| [20:23:45] | |Torg|: | and it not code, its the makefile generated by configure |
| [20:24:34] | |Torg|: | btw why are you trying to setup distcc, speed of compile? |
| [20:24:42] | omry: | |Torg|, that's about how old the code is :) |
| [20:24:54] | omry: | |Torg|, yes. |
| [20:25:04] | |Torg|: | are the remote systems faster then the compile host? |
| [20:25:11] | omry: | yeah |
| [20:25:14] | omry: | and dual core. |
| [20:25:29] | omry: | the compiling machine is single core and slower. and have less ram. |
| [20:25:40] | |Torg|: | after you get done, you wil be surpised at how little distcc really helps |
| [20:25:51] | |Torg|: | but I wish you well in trying |
| [20:26:11] | omry: | we will find out soon enough |
| [20:26:15] | omry: | svn up is done |
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| [20:27:00] | directhex: | distcc means you need more megahertz! |
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| [20:27:49] | omry: | |Torg|, still no luck. |
| [20:27:57] | omry: | never mind, I`ll just compile it on that box. |
| [20:28:15] | |Torg|: | are you SURE you exported DISTCC_HOSTS? |
| [20:28:31] | omry: | export DISTCC_HOSTS='localhost main' |
| [20:28:33] | omry: | tha'ts what I did |
| [20:28:36] | omry: | main is the other machine. |
| [20:28:44] | |Torg|: | is main a box that is resolvable? |
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| [20:29:19] | omry: | yes |
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| [20:29:34] | |Torg|: | do you have ccache installed? |
| [20:29:41] | omry: | don't think so. |
| [20:30:07] | |Torg|: | wel install it, but if you did its posible the compile object is in ccache so the make did not distribute it |
| [20:30:18] | |Torg|: | install ccache, it will sav on recompile time dramitcly |
| [20:30:37] | omry: | hmm, when I try to compile I get this, any idea? : bitstream.c:72: error: 'ENABLE_SMALL' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| [20:30:40] | iamlindoro_: | boy does it ever |
| [20:30:44] | omry: | something is missing |
| [20:30:58] | iamlindoro_: | did you make clean/distclean? |
| [20:31:05] | omry: | tried clean |
| [20:31:10] | omry: | should I distclean? |
| [20:31:40] | gbee: | yep |
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| [20:32:07] | |Torg|: | and when you compile look for distcc[2114] (dcc_writex) ERROR: messages |
| [20:32:30] | |Torg|: | if you get failed to distibute messages it means distcc is mismatched or broken |
| [20:32:45] | |Torg|: | if you get distributed messages it means its working |
| [20:32:57] | |Torg|: | and absence of all of these means you setup the distcc compile wrong |
| [20:33:22] | |Torg|: | usualy missing DISTCC_HOSTS (as if its is blank the makefile will skip distcc) or failure to use -j |
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| [20:33:25] | tzanger: | hmm, I am trying to do some FTA stuff here, it works fine with 1 bird, but if I'm using a tone switch it does not seem to watn to switch |
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| [20:33:37] | tzanger: | scanning for channels always gives me the "first" bird |
| [20:33:51] | tzanger: | I've tried tone and legacy 2x1 without work |
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| [20:34:05] | tzanger: | I know know it's not a diseq, the switch itself says 0Hz and 22Khz |
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| [20:35:28] | justinh: | time to capture all my old college VHS tapes |
| [20:36:06] | justinh: | in DV though, not ropey auld mpeg2 |
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| [20:38:40] | omry: | |Torg|, I did: make distclean && ./configure && export DISTCC_HOSTS='localhost main' && qmake mythtv.pro && make qmake && make -j 6 CXX=distcc |
| [20:39:02] | omry: | this time I do see it's calling distcc gcc (Before it was just gcc), but still no activity on the distcc logs |
| [20:39:22] | |Torg|: | it needs something to distibute to do it |
| [20:39:31] | |Torg|: | do you have distcc-mon? |
| [20:39:38] | omry: | nope |
| [20:39:42] | omry: | install it? |
| [20:39:55] | |Torg|: | its eyecandy to watch, yes if you want |
| [20:40:06] | justinh: | have to be careful with distcc – make sure all the versions of distcc & gcc are the same |
| [20:40:10] | |Torg|: | distccmon-gnome is pretty |
| [20:40:18] | justinh: | it can break in interesting ways |
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| [20:40:46] | |Torg|: | even if discc, gcc and glib all match there is still no guarantee it will all work |
| [20:41:05] | justinh: | eep! this videotape is 18 years old!!!!!!! |
| [20:41:16] | omry: | justinh, as a matter of fact I found that the gcc on main is 4.1 and on the compiling machine it's 4.2. I am upgrading. but in any case it doesn't seem to be distributing anyway :) |
| [20:41:36] | |Torg|: | did it tell you it was distrubiting work and it was denied? |
| [20:41:46] | |Torg|: | the compile will tell you when you mismatch or of there is a problme |
| [20:41:49] | justinh: | I've only ever been impatient enough to use distcc once – that was for my eggsboggs |
| [20:42:04] | |Torg|: | sometimes it simly sais it fails to distrubite tho, like I get with my solaris boxes |
| [20:42:06] | omry: | nope |
| [20:42:12] | omry: | no, here is something interesting: |
| [20:42:23] | omry: | on distcc mon gnome, I see slots on both machines |
| [20:42:35] | omry: | but it's only using two slots on the first one |
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| [20:42:50] | |Torg|: | it *should* allocate two slots per core |
| [20:42:55] | justinh: | ROFLMAO @ the college's 'state of the art' CAD machines back in 1989 |
| [20:42:57] | |Torg|: | if it finds them that means distcc works |
| [20:43:12] | |Torg|: | if it send it, lets it compile, then rejects the work thats a mismatched compiler |
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| [20:44:09] | justinh: | hmm I now can't help but wonder if the digital copy I'm making of this tape will be around in another 18 years. Hmmmmmmmmm |
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| [20:45:45] | dr_lulz: | justinh: carve it in stone, bit for bit |
| [20:45:46] | |Torg|: | justinh: put it on the Internet, it will never die, even if you want it to |
| [20:46:01] | dr_lulz: | |Torg|: that only works if its really good and/or embarrassing ;) |
| [20:46:03] | |Torg|: | hell there are still posts in Usenet online I made 20 years ago |
| [20:46:05] | justinh: | yeah once it's on Youtube the quality won't ever get any worse |
| [20:47:14] | Dabian: | |Torg| : s/ell/eck/ |
| [20:47:34] | iamlindoro_: | Ugh, they're putting up a billboard of Bodyworks right outside my office window. Like I need to start at a body sans skin for weeks and weeks |
| [20:47:43] | iamlindoro_: | er stare |
| [20:48:03] | Dabian: | Whats bodyworks? |
| [20:48:21] | justinh: | hahaha the control track on the VHS is all fecked |
| [20:48:38] | justinh: | can you say "wow" ? ;) |
| [20:48:47] | iamlindoro_: | A guy takes cadavers, removes the skin, plasticizes the muscle, and poses them. It's supposed to be educational, I find it foul |
| [20:48:54] | justinh: | oh that guy |
| [20:49:04] | justinh: | very controversial |
| [20:49:18] | |Torg|: | oh I saw that, its cool as hell |
| [20:49:30] | justinh: | I expect he'll have sell-out shows, what with the popularity of gorno flicks like Saw et al |
| [20:49:39] | tzanger: | anyone have tone selection working with their DVB-S card? |
| [20:49:43] | iamlindoro_: | I've seen too many dead people right after/when it happens at work, not gonna go see it for fun |
| [20:50:00] | |Torg|: | but then I like the macabre |
| [20:50:37] | justinh: | I saw dead people once. and I heard voices. then I got some tablets & it all went away |
| [20:50:41] | |Torg|: | actauly it has sponsors like the AHA |
| [20:50:53] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: Do you work at a morg? (spelling) |
| [20:51:13] | |Torg|: | I was looking at staticis of how many people quit smoking after they say what smokers lungs look like from it |
| [20:51:23] | justinh: | about two then |
| [20:51:25] | iamlindoro_: | I used to be a cop.. actually, I may be again rather soon... so if I disappear you know where I went |
| [20:52:08] | Dabian: | You get to taser people now a days though. |
| [20:52:16] | iamlindoro_: | Oh yes, have tasered many |
| [20:52:18] | iamlindoro_: | good fun |
| [20:52:20] | justinh: | oh cool. got two copies of a music vid I made at college, both seemingly with dropouts in different areas so I can cut & paste |
| [20:52:36] | iamlindoro_: | naw, not fun, but a very effective tool |
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| [20:54:07] | bsdfox__: | iamlindoro: I went to the exhibit when it was at sf moma.. pretty cool |
| [20:54:31] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: You can't deny its fun to see some arrogant profanity spewing hot-shot change by getting tasered? |
| [20:54:39] | iamlindoro_: | bsdfox__, I mean, I can understand the fascination, but I've seen enough to last a life time :) |
| [20:54:56] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, well, the profanity-spewing ones you kinda just have to grin and bear |
| [20:56:03] | iamlindoro_: | but if someone wants to hurt someone, especially myself or another officer, I can't deny that it's good to stop them in their tracks. But it's a necessary evil, beleive me I'd rather avoid a fight if I could... want to make it to my pension, after all :) |
| [20:57:51] | directhex: | iamlindoro_, and all the "got a parking ticket? *TAZE!* support the wrong political party? *TAZE* not go a library card? *TAZE" stuff that's about lately? |
| [20:58:20] | justinh: | lose a couple of CD-R discs? TAZE! |
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| [20:59:03] | bsdfox__: | I bet a tazer would be cool on a cd-r |
| [20:59:45] | iamlindoro_: | Haha, well that's really a much more substantial conversation. Supreme Court here says an officer can use force to: Overcome resistance, prevent escape, or to effect an arrest. So if the officer can truthfully articulate that he was doing one of those things, then it's a legal use of force. I won't get any deeper into the conversation than that, and won't give my opinion on thsoe things here because it's bound to spiral terribly out of con |
| [20:59:45] | iamlindoro_: | trol and off-topic |
| [20:59:52] | |Torg|: | its a taser not a tazer |
| [20:59:54] | iamlindoro_: | so we'll all just stay friends instead :) |
| [21:00:11] | iamlindoro_: | And yes, it's with an "s" |
| [21:00:12] | iamlindoro_: | :) |
| [21:00:18] | iamlindoro_: | The ol' X36 |
| [21:00:28] | |Torg|: | Thomas A Swift Electronic Rifle |
| [21:00:31] | justinh: | didn't realise we were in #pedants-r-us |
| [21:00:47] | |Torg|: | there also unethical |
| [21:01:05] | iamlindoro_: | Aw, not trying to be pedantic, which is why I'm trying to stay OUT of that kind of discussion |
| [21:01:35] | |Torg|: | I dont try to be pedantic, I just am from time to time |
| [21:02:24] | iamlindoro_: | So ANYWAY, about MythTV :) |
| [21:02:34] | justinh: | what about it? |
| [21:02:40] | iamlindoro_: | Just sterring |
| [21:02:43] | iamlindoro_: | er steering |
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| [21:02:47] | justinh: | oh yeah it's excellent isn't it? :D |
| [21:02:53] | iamlindoro_: | Indeed! |
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| [21:03:03] | justinh: | into my 3rd year of being a 'user' now too |
| [21:03:49] | |Torg|: | excellent, no. Usefull, yes |
| [21:05:24] | iamlindoro_: | Aw, I think it's pretty excellent... 'course there are nitpicks, but it could always be MCE or a CableCo DVR... and in that context, it's pretty excellent |
| [21:05:47] | justinh: | well, it's true that it's only as good as its contributors, so I'm sure they won't mind you saying they suck :P |
| [21:06:04] | |Torg|: | I dint say it sucks, I simply said it wasnt excelent |
| [21:06:22] | |Torg|: | but compared to other dvrs, and other software I can easily see why you would think that |
| [21:06:28] | justinh: | hand on heart I don't think an 'excellent' PVR exists. they all have limitations |
| [21:06:42] | |Torg|: | justinh: exactly |
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| [21:07:14] | justinh: | not holding my breath for Elisa. they can't even play back media without crashing big style |
| [21:07:15] | |Torg|: | its vastly supeior to anything else I have used, but still it has its flaws and limitations |
| [21:07:17] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: The reason I couldn't get the stuff working btw. was that I was missing video sources. I added an empty one, assigned that to input, and voila. |
| [21:07:55] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, ah, like I asked you to do yesterday and we had the big discussion about? ;) |
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| [21:08:04] | dug: | my audio is not in sync with my video in recording analog tv, I see a manual sync audio on the onscreen video but where can I set this sync for all recordings? |
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| [21:08:20] | iamlindoro_: | dug, with a framegrabber? If so, check the wiki |
| [21:08:26] | justinh: | dug: you need to mute the audio input the tuner audio is plugged into |
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| [21:08:51] | justinh: | and make sure it's only selected to be captured. do that in the linuxy audio mixer |
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| [21:09:38] | dug: | justinh: ok thanks |
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| [21:10:26] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: Dunno about the big discussion, but you did suggest it, and I tried it, and it worked. :) |
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| [21:10:40] | iamlindoro_: | Cool. Glad it's working though |
| [21:10:46] | Dabian: | me2 |
| [21:10:53] | iamlindoro_: | Now the real work begins :) |
| [21:10:59] | iamlindoro_: | tweak, tweak, tweak... |
| [21:11:33] | justinh: | anyway don't speak to me about 'Video Sources' |
| [21:11:56] | Dabian: | I had another problem .. which took a while to solve. Everytime I wanted to watch DVD or TV .. it killed my x-session. Turned out if I start it off the commandline .. it works. The icon passes the parameter "--services" or something to mythfrontend. |
| [21:12:31] | Dabian: | Now I just struggle with the fact that my keyboard is locked when I end my myth session. :) |
| [21:12:35] | iamlindoro_: | Ah. Interesting. |
| [21:13:11] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, I've set up a gutsy box for my folks, but I never see it and it's always in frontend anyway... I think it has that issue too, though, so you may not be alone |
| [21:14:05] | gbee: | added a couple more screenshots – http://miffteevee.co.uk/themes/metallurgy.html |
| [21:14:16] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, but I found, I think that it only locks one x terminal, and if you open another, you've got keyboard again |
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| [21:15:02] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: Yeah .. and if I restart the session I am fine again |
| [21:15:13] | iamlindoro_: | Wow, gbee, that's *really nice* |
| [21:15:21] | iamlindoro_: | Like it a lot |
| [21:16:17] | cesman: | gbee: looks nice! |
| [21:16:33] | gbee: | cool, thanks |
| [21:16:45] | cesman: | please let me know when it is ready |
| [21:16:52] | iamlindoro_: | Are these mockups, or of the theme in action |
| [21:16:54] | cesman: | I'll be happy to include it w/ KnoppMyth |
| [21:17:05] | gbee: | iamlindoro_: the actual theme |
| [21:17:14] | iamlindoro_: | Very nice. |
| [21:17:31] | iamlindoro_: | Would have to re-memorize my remote keypresses in the menus, but what the hey |
| [21:18:10] | gbee: | cesman: that would be great, but the fly in the ointment is that it depends on code which only exists in trunk, I don't think you've got a trunk based build of knoppmyth? |
| [21:18:25] | gbee: | of course once we release 0.21 that won't be a problem |
| [21:18:32] | cesman: | not for the general public |
| [21:19:35] | gbee: | I hope to have a preview release ready this weekend, I need to finish off and commit the OSD code changes to SVN first |
| [21:19:54] | iamlindoro_: | gbee, what's new in the OSD? |
| [21:19:58] | gbee: | after that I'll work on getting the rest of the plugins done |
| [21:20:26] | iamlindoro_: | And is the mythtv badge part of the backgrounds or an overlay? |
| [21:21:24] | gbee: | iamlindoro_: the main change is that instead of using a hard-coded theme size of 640x480, the themer can use a higher res, which means a better looking OSD on HD displays |
| [21:21:51] | gbee: | although it makes a huge difference even on my SD TV |
| [21:22:19] | iamlindoro_: | Ah, nice |
| [21:22:24] | gbee: | that OSD theme is based on a resolution of 1280x720 – or twice the resolution of existing themes |
| [21:23:48] | gbee: | the mythtv badge is part of the background, but there is nothing stopping it being an overlay – if people want the option to replace or remove it, then I can change it over to be a separate image |
| [21:23:52] | iamlindoro_: | Love the aqua-esqueness |
| [21:24:18] | dr_lulz: | hrm. the osd is usable with 4:3, too – correct? |
| [21:24:32] | iamlindoro_: | Well, I personally usually cut 'em out when they're there... love myth but I'm more minimalist I guess |
| [21:24:50] | gbee: | iamlindoro_: you aren't the first person to say that, but I've never seen aqua first hand and as I don't really pay much attention to Mac articles I've hardly seen it second hand either |
| [21:25:13] | gbee: | dr_lulz: yes, it scales fine to 4:3 |
| [21:25:20] | dr_lulz: | k, thanks |
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| [21:28:40] | dug: | justinh: my capture volume is up and my line volume is 0 and I think I am missing something I am using alsamixer then using alsactl store |
| [21:28:43] | gbee: | the proportions are better at 16:9, as might be expected — http://miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/osd_4_3.png |
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| [21:36:46] | Pogonip_new_: | Does anyone have a line on a good mythtv keypress script? |
| [21:37:37] | iamlindoro_: | pogonip, want to elaborate on what you're looking for? |
| [21:37:40] | iamlindoro_: | Not sure I catch your meaning |
| [21:37:50] | Pogonip_new_: | There |
| [21:38:46] | Pogonip_new_: | In mythtv setup there's a location for a script to capture lirc keypress |
| [21:39:56] | Pogonip_new_: | I think it's the only way to capture channel numbers greater than one digit. |
| [21:40:43] | iamlindoro_: | Still have no idea what you mean. Myth gets it's lirc stuff from ~/.mythtv/lircrc, and supports multiple digit channels out of the box |
| [21:41:03] | iamlindoro_: | The only lirc related thing I can think of in mythtv-setup is the channel change script, which is for IR blasters |
| [21:41:13] | iamlindoro_: | But perhaps there's an option I don't know of? |
| [21:41:53] | |Torg|: | I belive he thinks lirc captures numners and sends mutiple digits. it does not |
| [21:42:00] | |Torg|: | all lirc does is intreprt keypress |
| [21:42:12] | |Torg|: | 100 is seen as 1 and a 0 and another 0, thats all |
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| [21:42:52] | black_Nightmare_: | hey |
| [21:43:07] | Pogonip_new_: | Sorry for the confusion. I have a blaster and I want to send IR signals to my Dishnetwork sat |
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| [21:43:32] | |Torg|: | all ir remotes just send keypress, no matter who makes them |
| [21:43:38] | |Torg|: | they are by defenition serial devices |
| [21:43:41] | iamlindoro_: | OK, so you're talking about channel change script, which is also just a series of numbers, then an ok/select as appropriate for your box |
| [21:44:04] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; correct. |
| [21:44:26] | iamlindoro_: | http://www.pastebin.ca/792995 |
| [21:44:41] | iamlindoro_: | Is mine, could be modified for any lirc remote and /dev/lirc#, I suppose |
| [21:45:03] | iamlindoro_: | Supports three digit channels just fine |
| [21:45:49] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; that's the one i'm looking for thanks. |
| [21:45:59] | iamlindoro_: | np |
| [21:47:01] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; I do need this if I want to change channels on my dish right? |
| [21:47:15] | iamlindoro_: | You need some sort of script if you want to use any IR blaster, yes |
| [21:48:01] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; Thanks, I'm having trouble sorting the lirc thing out. |
| [21:48:03] | iamlindoro_: | change the remote name to the remote name as defined in your lircd.conf, change the lircd device name if necessary, change "ok/select" to the similar for your remote def, and it should work |
| [21:48:23] | iamlindoro_: | Presuming you have your dish remote defined in lircd.conf, that is |
| [21:49:34] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; IRW indicates that the dish remote is working. I'm a little concerned about the multiple signals the IRW seems to detect. |
| [21:49:48] | iamlindoro_: | For example, my lircd.conf contains two remote definitions, mceusb and DCT2524. mceusb is the remote I use to control myth, DCT2524 is the defintion myth uses to emulate my cable box remote |
| [21:50:03] | iamlindoro_: | Pogonip, you don't need to worry about it if they come up a few times, won't be an issue |
| [21:50:53] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; Seems like we're doing the same thing. The only difference is that instead of DCT2524, I'm using Dish |
| [21:51:22] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; Want to hear a good one? |
| [21:51:35] | iamlindoro_: | ok |
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| [21:52:47] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; I was part of the intel Viiv team and I got the bug for digital home. Myth is a better solution/ |
| [21:53:05] | iamlindoro_: | Heh. Well good stuff. |
| [21:54:14] | iamlindoro_: | I think it's the best solution out there for the advanced user... although it's definitely becoming more accessible to less saavy people day by day |
| [21:54:44] | iamlindoro_: | minimally, it's very *usable* by just about anyone. Setup is another matter. The fact that my folks can use a myth box and I never have to go fix it is pretty good testament. |
| [21:55:34] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; I'm and engineer and was responsible for running two Viiv betas. Believe me, myth is nothing compared to viiv. |
| [21:55:43] | omry: | in the setup, how do I remove a storage directory? (or from outside the setup?) |
| [21:56:04] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; By that I mean, myth is easy to setup compared to Viiv |
| [21:56:14] | iamlindoro_: | omry, mythtv-setup, "remove all storage groups" |
| [21:56:26] | iamlindoro_: | pogonip, yeah, I figured ;) |
| [21:57:15] | omry: | iamlindoro, I don't think I have that option |
| [21:57:22] | iamlindoro_: | Spent about 20 minutes with Vista having it tell me my router was "local only" and "Not Viiv compatible..." so that box sits in the corner to run AnyDVD HD and rip blu-ray discs, which promptly get put on my myth system |
| [21:57:26] | Pogonip_new_: | Has anyone tried to connect mythtv to the MCE Extender? |
| [21:57:43] | omry: | I see 6 options, last is about storage dirs. but nothing about remove there |
| [21:57:44] | iamlindoro_: | omry, are you talking about a recording directory you set up, or one of your other directories? |
| [21:58:06] | iamlindoro_: | When you go into storage dirs, you should see a list of your storage groups followed by one or two more options |
| [21:58:20] | iamlindoro_: | One of which should allow you to remove it |
| [21:58:26] | omry: | iamlindoro, I am in the setup, I entered a directory in 6. Storage dire. |
| [21:58:36] | omry: | (Dire is what I have there, maybe font problem) |
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| [21:59:00] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; Viiv died over a year ago, we are going to keep the Viiv label but that's it. |
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| [21:59:35] | directhex: | at least core rocks |
| [21:59:52] | iamlindoro_: | definitely |
| [22:00:23] | iamlindoro_: | Just need to get us some Core 2 Octos |
| [22:00:40] | omry: | is there some file that I can edit to remove the extra storage dir? |
| [22:01:00] | omry: | in fact, I am not even sure I need storage dir because I am not going to be recording, just viewing downloaded videos |
| [22:01:13] | iamlindoro_: | Omry, you do not need a storage group |
| [22:01:17] | iamlindoro_: | if you don't plan to record |
| [22:01:30] | dug: | I setup my sound as stated in http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html and I still am getting direct line in sound , it is out of sync and not pausing with the video, what am I doing incorrectly? (I am using pchdtv 3000 analog, with a soundblaster live) line in |
| [22:01:31] | omry: | question is, how do I clean up what I created |
| [22:01:56] | omry: | is there some file I can edit maybe? |
| [22:02:10] | directhex: | iamlindoro_, core's memory bandwidth blows. more cores makes it worse |
| [22:02:48] | iamlindoro_: | so improve memory bandwidth, don't deny me more cores! |
| [22:03:25] | directhex: | iamlindoro_, not happening in any sensible way until 2009 |
| [22:03:57] | iamlindoro_: | Well then I'll take them then, sheesh |
| [22:04:34] | iamlindoro_: | omry, I'm 99% certain you delete storage groups from the storage group option... myth does not save int's config in files, it's all in the database |
| [22:04:46] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; Once Digital Living Network Alliance (http://www.dlna.org) is adopted this should be much easier. |
| [22:05:13] | iamlindoro_: | heh, looks like fancy uPNP to me |
| [22:06:17] | directhex: | intel's upnp tools are handy |
| [22:06:49] | omry: | I already have my remote configured with lirc for freevo, anything I should do to configure mythtv to use lircd? |
| [22:06:56] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; pretty much. But it brings the consumer electronics into the uPNP area which will give use the ability to query the status of CE devices. |
| [22:07:16] | iamlindoro_: | omry, symlink your ~/.lircrc to ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [22:07:23] | iamlindoro_: | and add myth entries for it, of course |
| [22:07:31] | iamlindoro_: | ie entries in your lircrc for mythtv |
| [22:07:40] | iamlindoro_: | pogonip, ah |
| [22:08:49] | Pogonip_new_: | dirctehex; Are there comparable uPNP tools for linux? |
| [22:10:19] | directhex: | Pogonip_, the intel tools are .net |
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| [22:10:35] | directhex: | so for most of them, yes, just use the intel tools |
| [22:10:39] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; what is ah? |
| [22:10:50] | iamlindoro_: | as in, "Ah, I see." |
| [22:11:40] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; LOL. So obvious I missed it. |
| [22:11:44] | BULLE: | iamlindoro_: a quick read on the dlna.org site seems to tell me they use uPNP for the functionality, but spec what devices must support in terms of codecs etc, aswell |
| [22:12:23] | Pogonip_new_: | dirctehex; Can you use the tools on linux? |
| [22:12:44] | iamlindoro_: | Well that's not too bad. Looks like they only require a fairly minimal set, though |
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| [22:13:06] | omry: | if I just want to watch video files, do I need to run the backend? |
| [22:13:09] | iamlindoro_: | Which rules out most of my media :) |
| [22:13:15] | Pogonip_new_: | dirctehex; I guess I should give it a try |
| [22:13:19] | iamlindoro_: | omry, yes |
| [22:13:28] | iamlindoro_: | well, you could watch them outside of myth without |
| [22:13:31] | directhex: | Pogonip_, sure. as long as you can actually install them. |
| [22:13:56] | iamlindoro_: | but if you want to watch them from within myth, the database handles the metainfo, posters, etc. |
| [22:14:40] | omry: | any particular plugin I need to install to watch existing videos in a directory? |
| [22:14:51] | iamlindoro_: | MythVideo |
| [22:15:10] | omry: | okay.. I assume I`ll have to build it as well :) |
| [22:15:16] | iamlindoro_: | and add file types if necessary |
| [22:15:24] | iamlindoro_: | omry, build or install from packages |
| [22:15:48] | omry: | I already build mythtv, so I guess it's build. |
| [22:16:04] | omry: | built. |
| [22:16:10] | iamlindoro_: | mythplugins is a seperate checkout from svn |
| [22:16:17] | iamlindoro_: | which contains mythvideo |
| [22:16:37] | omry: | already checked out |
| [22:16:56] | directhex: | Pogonip_, directhex@mortos:/tmp/Tools for UPnP Technologies$ mono Device\ Sniffer.exe |
| [22:16:59] | iamlindoro_: | then build that with mythvideo enabled and you'll be fine |
| [22:17:55] | omry: | it's enabled by default, along with a bunch of them |
| [22:18:07] | iamlindoro_: | They're all enabled by default |
| [22:18:24] | iamlindoro_: | presuming you have all required libraries |
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| [22:20:50] | klpt: | so if I watch TV and then switch to another resolution, my screen shows a green and pink pattern, or turns pink and crashes. i thought this was a bug with the latest nvidia driver, but i downgraded to 100.14.11 and it still happens. any thoughts on what's going on? |
| [22:21:45] | iamlindoro_: | Yeah, sounds like the nvidia bug... 100.14.11 has fixed it for everyone I've ever heard. Weird. |
| [22:22:05] | iamlindoro_: | Guess you could roll back farther or try the beta driver |
| [22:22:18] | klpt: | hmm |
| [22:22:21] | klpt: | guess so |
| [22:22:25] | klpt: | where's the beta driver? |
| [22:22:30] | iamlindoro_: | nvidia.com |
| [22:22:33] | janneg: | the beta driver fixes it for me |
| [22:25:27] | iamlindoro_: | http://www.nvidia.com/Download/betadrivers.aspx?lang=en-us |
| [22:25:50] | klpt: | ah, thanks |
| [22:25:54] | klpt: | starting to make the package now |
| [22:26:22] | iamlindoro_: | So many people affected, surprised they're so slow getting a new stable driver out |
| [22:30:13] | klpt: | argh. the beta driver broke component out on my 6150 card |
| [22:30:29] | klpt: | time to figure out why |
| [22:30:53] | iamlindoro_: | probably rewrote your xorg.conf, no? |
| [22:30:58] | omry: | is it possible to disable menu items I have no use to? |
| [22:31:03] | klpt: | i'm looking through the error log |
| [22:31:03] | omry: | disable = hide |
| [22:31:16] | iamlindoro_: | omry, you can edit the theme xmls, I believe |
| [22:31:34] | omry: | iamlindoro, where are the files located? |
| [22:31:50] | iamlindoro_: | Depends on where you installed mythtv |
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| [22:32:01] | iamlindoro_: | something/something/share/mythtv/themes probably |
| [22:32:06] | iamlindoro_: | probably /usr or /usr/local |
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| [22:32:29] | omry: | found : /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/default/ |
| [22:32:35] | iamlindoro_: | mmhm |
| [22:32:47] | iamlindoro_: | each subdirectory in themes is a theme |
| [22:33:12] | omry: | hmm, looks like work. |
| [22:33:19] | iamlindoro_: | uhhh. yes. |
| [22:33:40] | asathoor: | can I safely remove mythtv-frontend – without corrupting mythtv-backend? |
| [22:33:45] | omry: | you think there is a theme suitable for watching video files? |
| [22:33:59] | directhex: | asathoor, yes, by design |
| [22:34:00] | iamlindoro_: | omry, no, the themes will generally includ options for all plugins |
| [22:34:11] | omry: | I see |
| [22:34:19] | asathoor: | thanx - |
| [22:34:23] | iamlindoro_: | if you want to just rebuild plugins and disable the stuff you don't want |
| [22:34:25] | justinh: | you can easily make your own though |
| [22:34:34] | justinh: | menu themes are the easiest to hack |
| [22:34:50] | justinh: | just cut & paste <button> </button> sections |
| [22:34:55] | asathoor: | directhex >> the frontend crashed, so I hoped it was possible |
| [22:39:11] | asathoor: | so I will give it a try... |
| [22:42:49] | justinh: | you can put your own menu.xml files (mainmenu.xml etc) in your home dir within the .mythtv directory and it'll override the defaults |
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| [22:45:12] | asathoor: | well, I reinstalled the mythtv frontend, but I still get a black screen and my ubuntu 7.04 freezes |
| [22:45:33] | asathoor: | is there an easy way to see the settings? |
| [22:46:12] | iamlindoro_: | It's not a matter of the settings. run mythfrontend -l frontend.log from a terminal, and when it crashes, look at the log |
| [22:46:24] | asathoor: | ok, thanx |
| [22:46:28] | klpt: | interesting. i got nvidia 169.04 beta up and running, and now my screen resolution settings are wrong, and the whole screen is blue |
| [22:46:37] | iamlindoro_: | Or rather, it's not a matter of randomly changing settings, first we need to know why it crashes :) |
| [22:46:59] | iamlindoro_: | klpt, sure it's running the nvidia module and not vesa or nv? |
| [22:47:10] | asathoor: | well, I'm headin' for a crash then 8-) |
| [22:48:34] | klpt: | iamlindoro – definitely |
| [22:48:42] | klpt: | i checked the xorg log file |
| [22:48:45] | klpt: | it's running the nvidia module |
| [22:48:49] | klpt: | the proprietary one |
| [22:49:06] | klpt: | plus, i'm using the hardware tv encoder for HDTV component, that simply wouldn't work without the correct driver |
| [22:49:09] | iamlindoro_: | ok, well when it installs the module it probably does nvidia-xconfig, but I believe it also backs up your old xorg.conf... you could copy the old one back in and restart gdm |
| [22:49:18] | klpt: | the new version places the screen incorrectly, and makes everything blue |
| [22:49:53] | klpt: | actually, the new placement isn't that bad |
| [22:49:57] | klpt: | somewhat better than before even |
| [22:50:01] | iamlindoro_: | heh |
| [22:50:08] | klpt: | but it's... all blue! |
| [22:50:13] | klpt: | very, very blue |
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| [22:50:31] | asathoo1: | hi again – back after the crash... |
| [22:52:00] | asathoo1: | the logfile says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45422/ |
| [22:53:25] | klpt: | i like the new nvidia-settings |
| [22:53:26] | asathoo1: | it seems that Qt painter is the problem: Using the Qt painter mythtv: could not connect to socket mythtv: No such file or directory |
| [22:53:29] | klpt: | it's much better |
| [22:53:35] | klpt: | but i don't know why my screen is totally blue |
| [22:54:17] | iamlindoro_: | asathoo, looks more like your problem is a incorrectly set up audio device |
| [22:54:30] | asathoo1: | ok ... |
| [22:55:17] | iamlindoro_: | in Utilities/Setup->Setup->General, I'd take a look at your audio devices, and swap them around a bit... may fix your problem |
| [22:55:19] | asathoo1: | yep: line 24 |
| [22:55:54] | asathoo1: | iamlindoro >> good idea, i'll try that |
| [22:55:56] | iamlindoro_: | Looks like it's definitely opening your capture card |
| [22:56:15] | asathoo1: | yes I can use ivtv-tune etc. |
| [22:56:59] | asathoo1: | brb |
| [22:57:00] | iamlindoro_: | can you also pastebin output of aplay -L |
| [22:57:07] | mzb_d800: | black_Nightmare_: the N670U is an LIDE scanner that comes with a mount. I bought one for g/f that didn't come with the mount (~au$20), so I had to make one. |
| [22:57:44] | iamlindoro_: | asathoo, hold on on changing mythtv settings |
| [22:57:51] | iamlindoro_: | just give me output of aplay -L real quick |
| [22:58:28] | asathoo1: | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45423/ |
| [22:58:43] | gbee: | mzb_d800: that the stand which allows it to be used vertically? or something else? |
| [22:58:53] | mzb_d800: | yes |
| [22:59:20] | mzb_d800: | took me 3 or 4 attempts to get right (my own stupidity) |
| [23:00:07] | asathoo1: | did u get it iamlindoro? |
| [23:00:12] | mzb_d800: | only managed to find a single picture of it on the net ... just needed an idea of how it worked |
| [23:00:16] | iamlindoro_: | looking now |
| [23:00:26] | gbee: | ahh, just googled – I've got a LIDE scanner which came with a table top stand, looks like the N670U takes that one step further with a wall mounted stand |
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| [23:00:53] | mzb_d800: | klpt: xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 1 |
| [23:00:58] | mzb_d800: | wall mount? |
| [23:01:03] | iamlindoro_: | erm, that's aplay -L? |
| [23:01:06] | mzb_d800: | heh ... didn't go that far ;) |
| [23:01:23] | asathoo1: | yes |
| [23:02:30] | asathoo1: | I cut & pasted it... |
| [23:02:49] | mzb_d800: | I might have to take a pic of the g/f's work-area now that it's pretty much finished ... just for evidence ;) |
| [23:02:50] | iamlindoro_: | when you do alsamixer, what does it give as "Card:" on the first line? |
| [23:03:17] | asathoo1: | HDA ULI M5461 |
| [23:03:49] | iamlindoro_: | and for asoundconf list |
| [23:03:55] | iamlindoro_: | give me the names of available sound cards |
| [23:04:04] | iamlindoro_: | Porbably possibly same |
| [23:04:31] | justinh: | so, still no definite agreement on what 'video sources' should be renamed as |
| [23:04:45] | asathoo1: | Names of available sound cards: |
| [23:04:45] | asathoo1: | M5461 |
| [23:04:45] | asathoo1: | Names of available sound cards: |
| [23:04:45] | asathoo1: | M5461 |
| [23:04:53] | justinh: | pastebin.ca damnit |
| [23:05:14] | asathoo1: | Names of available sound cards:M5461 |
| [23:05:16] | iamlindoro_: | okay, do a asoundconf set-default-card M5461 |
| [23:05:39] | asathoo1: | ok |
| [23:05:42] | justinh: | now I know why nobody's bothered to rock the boat & rename 'video sources' in the past. it's rocking the damn boat |
| [23:06:03] | asathoo1: | no error – so the soundcard is set |
| [23:06:10] | iamlindoro_: | Then try watching TV, still run mythfrontend with -l frontend.log |
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| [23:06:20] | iamlindoro_: | if it crashes again, come back and re pastebin |
| [23:06:24] | iamlindoro_: | hahah guess it did |
| [23:06:33] | iamlindoro_: | oh, never mind, that was other you |
| [23:06:33] | asathoo1: | ok brb |
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| [23:15:21] | Dabian: | I noticed that sometimes my remote is able to switch channels .. but most of the time it merely "takes me back in time" or similar, when I try to switch? |
| [23:16:41] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, either your lircrc config is screwed up or you're pressing right and left unstead of up and down |
| [23:18:19] | dug: | I am having a problem configuring my sound for my pchdtv 3000, I have followed the How to but for some reason I am still getting audio straight through the line in and not in sync with the video, when I check the alsamixer it appears correct? |
| [23:18:30] | Dabian: | oh .. I am not pressing either .. I'm pressing "Ch" (the up and down there) |
| [23:18:58] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: oh .. I am not pressing either .. I'm pressing "Ch" (the up and down there) |
| [23:19:12] | iamlindoro_: | Try the arrows up and down |
| [23:19:26] | Dabian: | They work somewhat. |
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| [23:19:32] | iamlindoro_: | "somewhat?" |
| [23:19:33] | asathoor: | back |
| [23:19:38] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: WHats teh "ch buttons" for then? |
| [23:19:46] | iamlindoro_: | For whatever you assign them to |
| [23:20:02] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: Well, they're slow .. but thats expected since I guess there is a buffer that will delay. |
| [23:20:07] | iamlindoro_: | since you didn't write your lircrc yourself, theyre set to whoever wrote your lircrc's settings |
| [23:20:09] | asathoor: | well, mythfrontend crashed again – and here is the logfile http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45426/ |
| [23:20:36] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: I autogenerated the lircrc with "mythbuntu-something" |
| [23:20:46] | iamlindoro_: | If you want to change it then edit ~/.mythtv/lircrc and change the button= for ChanUp and ChanDown to "Up" and "Down" |
| [23:20:50] | Dabian: | something like that. |
| [23:21:23] | Dabian: | Ch+ is set to "page up" |
| [23:21:31] | iamlindoro_: | So? |
| [23:21:37] | iamlindoro_: | I already told you what to do if you want to change it |
| [23:22:04] | iamlindoro_: | asathoor, what graphics driver are you running? |
| [23:22:51] | asathoor: | dunno |
| [23:23:07] | iamlindoro_: | What graphics *card* do you have? |
| [23:23:20] | asathoor: | ok nvidia of course |
| [23:23:41] | iamlindoro_: | "or course?" umm ok |
| [23:23:46] | iamlindoro_: | so you installed the restricted driver? |
| [23:24:08] | asathoor: | but I have'nt used the restricted |
| [23:24:15] | iamlindoro_: | So install it and try again |
| [23:24:18] | asathoor: | not in use |
| [23:24:19] | asathoor: | ok |
| [23:24:45] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, get your lircrd changed? |
| [23:24:47] | asathoor: | I cannot use it |
| [23:24:51] | iamlindoro_: | oops lircrc |
| [23:24:52] | asathoor: | the driver is locked |
| [23:24:57] | iamlindoro_: | asathoor, locked how? |
| [23:25:22] | asathoor: | /var/cache/apt/archives/lock – open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| [23:25:31] | iamlindoro_: | Do you have synaptic open? |
| [23:25:46] | asathoor: | no but an update thing opened... |
| [23:25:49] | iamlindoro_: | Close anything that would use apt and try again... including system udpate |
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| [23:27:00] | asathoor: | ok, thanx iamlindoro you helped me at lot – but it's late in Denmark, so I'll go to sleep now... |
| [23:27:18] | iamlindoro_: | did it fix it, or are you going to test? |
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| [23:27:55] | asathoor: | i'll test it |
| [23:28:12] | iamlindoro_: | ok, would like to know since we spent the time on it :) |
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| [23:28:30] | asathoor: | here comes the driver... |
| [23:28:31] | iamlindoro_: | will probably require a reboot |
| [23:28:38] | asathoor: | ok |
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| [23:30:39] | tzanger: | hmm |
| [23:30:49] | tzanger: | does mythtv even support 22khz switches anymore? |
| [23:31:02] | tzanger: | the cardinput table shows all kinds of diseqc settings but nothing for maintaining a tone |
| [23:31:06] | asathoor: | iamlindoro >> I think you brought my computer on the right track... |
| [23:31:27] | iamlindoro_: | how so? |
| [23:31:34] | asathoor: | intuition |
| [23:31:40] | iamlindoro_: | yes, mine too ;) |
| [23:32:22] | iamlindoro_: | It's Denmark week in #mythtv-users |
| [23:32:31] | iamlindoro_: | I am owed several beers if I ever visit ;) |
| [23:32:44] | asathoor: | :-D |
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| [23:33:15] | asathoor: | come to aarhus, and I'll give you one at the inn Peter Gift |
| [23:33:46] | iamlindoro_: | heh |
| [23:33:59] | asathoor: | where are you then? |
| [23:34:05] | iamlindoro_: | California |
| [23:34:44] | iamlindoro_: | Where in late November it's a chilly 66 F :) |
| [23:35:18] | iamlindoro_: | asathoor, still no driver? |
| [23:35:39] | asathoor: | well – here the winter is arriving. It zero degrees celsius outside. Water is freezing... |
| [23:35:45] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; LOL. I modified the script you gave me but it doesn't output to IRBlaster. If I use irsend --device=/dev/lircd SEND_ONCE dish2 1, the IR blaster works. |
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| [23:36:04] | asathoor: | it's installing now |
| [23:36:05] | iamlindoro_: | pogonip, then you didn't modify it properly |
| [23:36:11] | iamlindoro_: | pastebin your modifications |
| [23:36:15] | asathoor: | that's it |
| [23:36:28] | asathoor: | reboot I will |
| [23:36:33] | iamlindoro_: | ok |
| [23:36:41] | asathoor: | brb |
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| [23:36:50] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: OK .. I'll try to change it .. I guess the best shot is to simply exchange up/down for Ch+/Ch- and vice versa :) |
| [23:37:17] | Shmattie: | I am wanting to configure a button on my remote to jump straight to mythtv, mythvideo, mythweather, or .... Anyone know what I need to add to my .lircrc file to make that happen? |
| [23:37:21] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: I guess its a bug that they have been switched? |
| [23:37:23] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, sure, that would work. I use Up/Down for channels and ChanUp DanDown for Pageup PageDown personally |
| [23:37:43] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, not a bug, just someone else's preferences... in a perfect world, you write your lircrc yourself |
| [23:37:52] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: WHats pageup and down for? I read the documentation but didn't get it. |
| [23:38:08] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, in a long list, to skip one whole page down or up |
| [23:38:31] | iamlindoro_: | If it shows ten lines, and you press pgDown, it will skip to 11 |
| [23:38:36] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; Is there a way to tell if it |
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| [23:38:52] | iamlindoro_: | Pogonip, just pastebin what you changed it too... easiest way |
| [23:38:54] | iamlindoro_: | er to |
| [23:39:10] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; will do. |
| [23:39:40] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: What if you're watching output from the tuner? |
| [23:40:09] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, Dunno, I don't use it then... apparently it's skip forward/Skip back :) |
| [23:40:10] | Dabian: | (Not sure what a "long list" is btw) |
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| [23:40:22] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, list of files, list of movies, list of anything! |
| [23:40:41] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; http://pastebin.ca/793137 |
| [23:40:42] | Dabian: | Oh . if you browse in recordings and stuff? |
| [23:40:44] | iamlindoro_: | ie in the video manager, if you have many files, you can only see a small number of them on the screen |
| [23:40:53] | iamlindoro_: | pgdown will skip to the next whole screen |
| [23:40:54] | asathoor: | iamlindoro >> heureka! It works – thanx a lot ;) |
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| [23:41:02] | iamlindoro_: | asathoor, great, congrats |
| [23:41:24] | iamlindoro_: | Pogonip, why did you remove the OK line? |
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| [23:41:35] | asathoor: | see you at the inn Peter Gift one day... |
| [23:41:48] | iamlindoro_: | also, did you make the script executable? What did you call it? |
| [23:41:55] | iamlindoro_: | asathoor, sounds good, good night |
| [23:42:14] | asathoor: | and good night to you |
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| [23:43:00] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; It is executable and I called it channel_change.sh |
| [23:43:12] | iamlindoro_: | OK, so why remove the ok line? |
| [23:43:26] | iamlindoro_: | from a shell, do ./channel_change.sh 123 and tell me the output |
| [23:43:35] | iamlindoro_: | but you may want to put the ok line back in |
| [23:44:18] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; I don't think the dish needs it. But I will put it back just to be sure. |
| [23:44:35] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: Hmm .. I guess in the "video manager" I would like the Ch+/Ch- to work like they do now .. but when watching TV I want them to change channel ... thats not possible as it is, is it? |
| [23:44:39] | iamlindoro_: | ok, make sure you use the code for your remote rather than my "ok/select" |
| [23:44:46] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, nope |
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| [23:44:54] | iamlindoro_: | One or the other |
| [23:45:16] | iamlindoro_: | pogonip also give me the output from the command line... I need to get outta here |
| [23:45:36] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: OK .. I guess I'll stick with the default for now then ... just seems logical that Ch+/Ch- would switch program :) |
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| [23:46:06] | iamlindoro_: | Dabian, I understand... if you swap them like you sai, you will have Up an Down for pages, Chup and Chdown for channels, like you want |
| [23:46:09] | iamlindoro_: | er said |
| [23:46:26] | Pogonip_new_: | iamlindoro; Works from the command line. I must have messed up the entry in mythtv |
| [23:46:30] | iamlindoro_: | yup |
| [23:46:38] | iamlindoro_: | use the absolute path |
| [23:46:50] | iamlindoro_: | ie /usr/bin/channel_change.sh or the like |
| [23:47:03] | iamlindoro_: | make sure to include the suffix and nothing after, no %s or anything |
| [23:47:23] | iamlindoro_: | and make sure your mythbackend user has access to that directory. |
| [23:47:28] | iamlindoro_: | I would copy it in to /usr/bin personally |
| [23:47:39] | clever: | i use ~/bin/ mostly |
| [23:47:42] | clever: | dont even need root for that |
| [23:47:52] | iamlindoro_: | if you do, the entry in setup would just be /usr/bin/channel_change.sh |
| [23:47:54] | iamlindoro_: | nothing else |
| [23:47:57] | iamlindoro_: | ok, going home, bye! |
| [23:48:21] | clever: | or in my case(with $HOME==/home/mythtv/) /home/mythtv/bin/channelchanger... |
| [23:48:36] | Dabian: | iamlindoro: Cya, and thanks :) |
| [23:48:43] | iamlindoro_: | np |
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| [23:49:18] | Dabian: | OK .. it turns out that "up/down" doesn't quite work either .. I have to press "up" (or "down") then hit OK? |
| [23:50:37] | Dabian: | Is this normal, and can it be changed and if so, is there a reason not to change it? |
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| [23:54:01] | tzanger: | yep there's a bug in mythtv's use of tone based switches |
| [23:54:07] | tzanger: | just fixed it in 0.20 |
| [23:54:33] | Dabian: | tzanger : Tone based switches is for instance a remote? |
| [23:55:03] | tzanger: | ? no 'm talking about DVB-S LNB switches |
| [23:55:39] | tzanger: | ExecuteTone mistakenly tries to send a DiSEqC burst instead of a continuous tone |
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| [23:57:18] | Dabian: | tzanger : Oh .. |
| [23:57:49] | Dabian: | tzanger : I guess you can't tell me how up and down are supposed to work then? |
| [23:57:58] | Dabian: | While watching tuner output |
| [23:58:18] | tzanger: | supposed to ff/rew by like 30s or so I thought |
| [23:58:36] | Dabian: | Not page up/down .. arrows |
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| [23:59:09] | Dabian: | tzanger : They're supposed to switch channel, I believe, but I have to hit enter before it takes effect? |
| [23:59:23] | tzanger: | that is a setting I think |
| [23:59:33] | Dabian: | OK :) |
| [23:59:44] | Dabian: | You dont happen to remember which file to change it in? |
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