Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Tuesday, October 30th, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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xris:

ben2: huh? you mean like svn.mythtv.org?

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ben2:

ah thats it ok thanks

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ben2:

ah great fixed my mythweb – weather module :)

[00:20:08]

mikeones:

ben2: how did you get the perl imageshack module to install?

[00:20:37]

ben2:

for the radar?

[00:21:01]

ben2:

well everything apart from the radar

[00:21:06]

ben2:

works

[00:21:13]

ben2:

because i dont really mind about that

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mikeones:

mythweather-revamp

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ben2:

that doesn't seem to exist

[00:24:54]

ben2:

well im going to re-write the online music thing

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mikeones:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Using_my . . . trunk_mythtv

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ben2:

oh, i didn;t use that

[00:27:02]

ben2:

i just edited the files, just the php's

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mikeones:

I see

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Toxicity999:

What would anyone say are the least intensive TV playback setting? (Standard definition)

[00:33:00]

Toxicity999:

Settings on this lowend frontend seem alright for general playback, but studder on keypresses with the OSD.

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Toxicity999:

mmm I call close enough.

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Krazylegz:

This is interesting. Starting mythfrontend kills lircd.

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Toxicity999:

What's frontend output to terminal?

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clever:

how well does mythtv build on sparc?

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GreyFoxx:

probably wont without patching

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clever:

i dont plan to use the backend

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clever:

all it realy needs is the network and video playback to work(and the normal inputs)

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GreyFoxx:

No way it would compile without patching of some sort

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directhex:

why bother? no sparc machine will have enough grunt to be useful

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clever:

its 400mhz

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clever:

and im bored

[01:19:11]

clever:

and my 2nd frontend is a 400mhz 32bit x86

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clever:

the freq(from a whole diff arch) is high enough

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clever:

assuming i get about the same performance

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directhex:

big assumption

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clever:

cant realy tell exactly how correct i am till i try and build it

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directhex:

linux or solaris?

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clever:

ubuntu(linux)

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directhex:

it won't perform as well as x86 – all the media playback code is based on ffmpeg, which includes per-arch optimization

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directhex:

this all assumes you have a working Xv setup too

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clever:

ive heard of a qt that uses the frame buffer directly somewhere

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directhex:

if you compile it as such, technically, you can do so

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directhex:

don't know how much love myth's support for qt diectfb is these days

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clever:

eeps

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clever:

it auto ejected the cd

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clever:

and the case is upside down

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clever:

disk droped out on its own

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squish102:

any1 have a good place to find out how to convert a dvd to h.264?

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ben2:

is the storage devices out yet?

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kormoc:

squish102, http://www.google.com

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directhex:

squish102, use avidemux! avidemux rules!

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clever:

arg

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squish102:

most of google talks about windows apps :( but i will keep looking

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clever:

how do i boot a hdd in sparc:P

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venger:

i was surprised to see tonight while testing mythtv player on windows that it could connect directly to the backend and stream recordings without any sort or authentication

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venger:

c/or/of

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GreyFoxx:

myth has never had any sort of authentication for connecting to the backend

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clever:

there is a pin now for the upnp

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venger:

still surprised, GreyFoxx =)

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GreyFoxx:

That's only needed to get the mysql data via upnp, not for backend connecting

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venger:

clever you got a sparc box on your hands?

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clever:

i have a pair of ultra 10's

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GreyFoxx:

you can do just about anything directly via the backend, add/remove schedules, watch shows, delete etc

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directhex:

our last sparc kit was disposed of with the help of a crowbar

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clever:

lol

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directhex:

and sun laughed at me last time i said they could try selling me some more

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venger:

use commands like disks; probe-scsi-all; probe-id then create and alias and use boot or boot and the full path

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jeffery:

I got this tuner-card: http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/products/DVBTpro.aspx but at boot up it complains that it couldn't find the right driver.. any suggestions which one I should try?

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clever:

the boot prom meny acts a bit ranomly

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clever:

after i change systems thru the kvm

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clever:

menu*

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directhex:

jeffery, unsupported according to the linuxtv wiki

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venger:

i think its disks that will let you CTRL-Y yank a path after selecting it

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jeffery:

directhex, :(

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jeffery:

hey directhex whats your recommendation for a good card

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ben2:

do you think i should compile and run my version from svn?

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directhex:

jeffery, the nova-t is generally well regarded in the "just works" stakes

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jeffery:

directhex, thanks mate.. will look that up

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directhex:

well. except on ubuntu 7.04 where it's not properly autodetected

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venger:

GreyFoxx, i'm sure its fine behind a firewall that drops everything incoming except established, related, or specific new traffic

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GreyFoxx:

venger: That is the assumed usage. An appliance :)

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ben2:

Can i run the svn frontend and a 2.20 backend?

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directhex:

ben2, no

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GreyFoxx:

benc-: Nope

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GreyFoxx:

No mixing versions

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directhex:

ben2, version numbers should match

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clever:

all parts need to be the same version

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directhex:

you can get away with slight variations if you're cheeky and lucky

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ben2:

ok should i run the svn?

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ben2:

or is it not stable enough yet

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GreyFoxx:

benc-: I do, works fine for me

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directhex:

ben2, it's not "stable" in that it's constantly changing.

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directhex:

ben2, whether a snapshot is crashy? generally svn is less crashy than versioned releases, IME

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directhex:

but i seem to find all the exciting crash bugs

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ben2:

i have 2 backends, 3 frontends and 4 tuners, i dont really want to re-do it all

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kormoc:

just gotta keep good backups

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ben2:

but i really need the storage stuff

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kormoc:

it doesn't do anything automatically right now

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ben2:

because its 4tb total but i can only use 500gb at the moment

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ben2:

im on 2.20 at the moment is it worth changing to release-0-20–2

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directhex:

0.20.2 is mostly useful for yanks

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** kormoc points out there is no 2.20 **

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ben2:

*release-0–20

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ben2:

what about release-0–20 to release-0-20–1

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directhex:

there's no 0.20.1

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directhex:

not a released one anyway

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venger:

debian sid current version 0.20.2.svn20071021–0.0

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ben2:

whens the next one out then?

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GreyFoxx:

benc-: No specific plans,

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directhex:

ben2, when someone gets around to making it have lots of omgcool features and beng 120% stable

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ben2:

ok

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ben2:

also mythmusic made my dist upgrade fail :(

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directhex:

GreyFoxx, multirec in trunk before 0.21 freeze, d'you think?

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GreyFoxx:

I think so

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ben2:

whats multirec?

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GreyFoxx:

and the next ffmpeg sync

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GreyFoxx:

benc-: branch to allow you to record multiple channels on the same multiplex with a dvb card

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directhex:

oh, fantastic. an ffmpeg sync will really make myth hdtv-ready

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GreyFoxx:

I can record 8 channels at once of the one card

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ben2:

ah good, i thought it might be that, cant wait for that

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dserban:

debian sid version? omfgwtflol?

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dserban:

myth in debian? :o

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ben2:

so i have 4 dvb tuners 32 channels recording at once?

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dserban:

ben2, do you really have that much time on your hands?

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directhex:

ben2, depends on how many channels are on your multiplexes, and how many multiplexes there are

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GreyFoxx:

depends on how many channels your provider puts on each multiplex

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ben2:

i dont know

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directhex:

ben2, and how much I/O bandwidth you have handy

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GreyFoxx:

mine puts 8 per, and my top 8 are all on one multiplex which makes it handy :)

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ben2:

uk dvb?

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ben2:

thats what ive got

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GreyFoxx:

I'm using QAM on a cableco in Canada

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iamlindoro:

Yeesh, On my cable at least, I do NOT need ABC + Weather + Religious programming + Home shopping. Blech

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ben2:

im not sure dvb has 32 channels

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directhex:

ben2, that's 6 multiplexes

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ben2:

24 then

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ben2:

good for a hotel or something

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ben2:

but two of them are nova-td stick

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ben2:

which is a bit dodgy

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directhex:

ben2, there are 5 channels on mux1, 13 channels on mux2, 16 on muxa, 4 on muxb, 6 on muxc, 7 on muxd. excluding radio & interactive

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directhex:

oh, and that includes regional channels – teleg in scotland, s4c in wales

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directhex:

and paid channels via TUTV

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[miles]:

morning

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directhex:

yes, too damned early in the morning. bedtime!

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[miles]:

guys I'm still hunting trying to find out how to stop myth recording everything I watch

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[miles]:

jaja

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GreyFoxx:

[miles]: You can't

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** [miles] offers directhex some coffee and a full english **

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[miles]:

eh :-O

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GreyFoxx:

LiveTV is recorded too, they just auto expire after 24 hours and autoexpire if space is needed for a scheduled recording

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iamlindoro:

Myth DOES record everything you watch... that's how it works!

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[miles]:

ok

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[miles]:

ok

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[miles]:

I can live with it :-)

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GreyFoxx:

awful hard to rewind livetv if you aren't recording it :)

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[miles]:

ok, my big issue is the deinterlacing

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[miles]:

im just not getting the same quality as I can with kaffine/xine

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[miles]:

and I dunno if it's me missing something, or just that myth can't do what kaffeine can

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GreyFoxx:

never used kaffeine so I can't exev guess

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[miles]:

Config String=tvtime:method=Greedy2Frame,enabled=1,pulldown=vektor,framerate_mode=full, judder_correction=1,use_progressive_frame_flag=1,chroma_filter=1,cheap_mode=0

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[miles]:

is the config line for deinterlacing in kaffinerc ... but from what I read, it just gets fed to xine

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[miles]:

the quality is amazing

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[miles]:

I judge the quality somewhat by the news ticker / scroller on Sky News (UK) .... clarity of font, smoothness of movement etc

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[miles]:

I just can't replicate anything close in Myth, which is a damn shame, because the interface is amazing

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GreyFoxx:

I just use Kernel deint, looks perfect to me but there are a few other deinterlacers and I have no idea what if any options that can be passed to them

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[miles]:

GreyFoxx, you watching on a TFT monitor or tv?

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clever:

http://revelations.earthstats.net/allpublicpo . . . =Revelations

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clever:

wrong link

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clever:

Fatal Error at /home/mythtv/mythtvbuild/mythplugins/mythweb/modules/tv/includes/objects/Program .php, line 794:

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clever:

Unknown schedule for this program's recordid:

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GreyFoxx:

[miles]: TV's

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clever:

cant hit 'dont record' in the upcoming recordings

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GreyFoxx:

but I use a LCD monitor + CRT at work

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[miles]:

ok

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[miles]:

I keep reading bob is best...

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[miles]:

I don't get good results tho

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[miles]:

judders vertically

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[miles]:

I even built 2.6.24-rc1 today tuned to the Athlon CPU in the box... still no good

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clever:

the bob filter did that to me on the crt

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clever:

and caused massive cpu usage

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clever:

i didnt notice the bobing on the tv out

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BULLE:

bob just doubles each field yes ?

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BULLE:

so the bobing will be kind of hidden by a crt

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clever:

dont know the details but it caused insane cpu usage

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BULLE:

as it only draws every other field

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[miles]:

im on a TFT with DVI cable going to an ATI agp card

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BULLE:

[miles]: what refreshrate do you use ?

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[miles]:

mmm good questoin

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[miles]:

60 iirc

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BULLE:

if its 60hz then it should be enough to display bob deinterlaced stuf

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BULLE:

[miles]: so just try all diff options out, and pick the one you like the most ?

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[miles]:

1440x900 @ 60hz

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BULLE:

might also be a scaling issue i guess

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BULLE:

going from whatever native ammount of lines your tv system has, to 900 on the screen

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[miles]:

really have no idea

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[miles]:

is vdr similar to myth?

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BULLE:

well, depends on what you mean with similar

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BULLE:

but it is in the same bussines atleast

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BULLE:

they try to be a pvr aswell

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[miles]:

k

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[miles]:

but its more basic?

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BULLE:

imho yes

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BULLE:

but that is not always something negative

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BULLE:

give it a try, if you cant get myth to work to you liking

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BULLE:

and have supported hardware

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[miles]:

I don't really do much recording, like hardly ever... what appeals to me about myth is the UI really

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[miles]:

kaffine is to "involved" with the keyboard etc

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darkwizard:

hey all

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darkwizard:

whatz this mean

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darkwizard:

when i do mythtv setup

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SplasPood:

Anyone running debian unstable have a dist-upgrade break their mplayer recently? (i ask here since I only use mplayer with myth..)

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darkwizard:

i get this using runtime prefix=/usr/local

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darkwizard:

dphs is active

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darkwizard:

dbhostname is not set in mysql.txt

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darkwizard:

assuming localhost

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darkwizard:

new db connection total:1

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darkwizard:

then quits

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SplasPood:

Basically, any video (assorted different formats) i play shows up as a static frame of distortion, audio plays fine..

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venger:

not sure if this pink screen of doom i get after adjusting settings is related to the Standard decoder setting or not, do recall seeing this when using libmpeg2, but that decoder didn't do well for fast forwarind greater than 3x in recordings

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clever:

drmitch: you need the database server/name/pw/db in mysql.txt

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clever:

darkwizard: i mean

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clever:

darkwizard: you can set it thru one of the options in mythfrontend

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darkwizard:

clever

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darkwizard:

i can't get it to run

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Weezey:

I updated SVN yesterday and I have a couple things that don't work now. I can't fast forward faster than 3X and when paused on a recording that's currently happening the timer doesn't update

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adante:

bleh

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adante:

myth scheduler is a little annoying sometimes

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adante:

if i have e.g. 2 tuners, both set to record a show from 7–8

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adante:

and a post-record and pre-record of 5m each

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adante:

and then another show scheduled from 8–9 on the one of the original channels

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adante:

myth will not be able to record, is this correct?

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adante:

as in, there will be a schedule conflict

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adante:

oh wait, it looks liek one of my tuners has disappeared

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elb:

post- and pre-record will be aborted if they prevent scheduling

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elb:

so if two shows are back-to-back, you'll miss the post-record on one and the pre-record on the other

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fryfrog:

Does anyone know a common cause for themes not displaying theme text but graphics working?

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kormoc:

missing fonts?

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fryfrog:

that'd result in absolutly no text being displayed? this is an ubuntu install, figure it has stuff by default :/

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iamlindoro:

Sometimes things will go funky for me when doing a fresh install... switching themes then switching back has fixed it every time

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iamlindoro:

Let's see, if memory serves, it's (to get to appearance from main menu) up once, enter, up once, enter, down once, enter

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iamlindoro:

And then Switch to another theme and you should be okay

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iamlindoro:

Go funky being a technical term, of course.

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quantum:

I can't get any audio on my frontend, not sure what is wrong. I can get xmms to play music aparently to my alsa system but mythtv is silent

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quantum:

I get the video playing fine

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quantum:

I see Opening OSS audio device '/dev/adsp'.

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quantum:

heck is anyboy out there

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iamlindoro:

You've been here less than a minute... a little early to get desperate, no?

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iamlindoro:

Will mythmusic play, or have you tried?

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quantum:

only other weird thing I see is [mpeg @ 0x3d73a6ef40]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 !

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iamlindoro:

That's ok

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quantum:

haven't tried mythmusic

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iamlindoro:

ok, so try that

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iamlindoro:

If it works, I suggest toggling AC3/DTS passthrough

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quantum:

there is an ac3 spdif passthrough, is that it

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quantum:

or dts spdif passthrough

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iamlindoro:

I mean from General in Mythfrontend Setup

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iamlindoro:

And I mean both

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quantum:

yeah that is what is under the general unless I missed something

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iamlindoro:

There is a checkbox to enable AC3 Passthrough, and one for DTS

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iamlindoro:

And whatever they're on, I suggest toggling them

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iamlindoro:

to the opposite

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iamlindoro:

But first, try mythusic

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quantum:

scanning

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quantum:

why do I get a feeling this is going to override the music setup on the backend server

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quantum:

hopefully it has some way of identifity which computer is which

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mikeones:

quantum: I believe it doesn't over ride you backend settings

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quantum:

o.k. I don't get any audio from the music player either

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iamlindoro:

ok, well then I would start changing around which audio device and mixer it uses on that general settings page... there is bound to be a combination that works properly... test first with mythmusic, since that avoids issues with ac3 and DTS passthrough

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quantum:

if I do cat /dev/urandom > /dev/adsp I don't hear anything, should that play sound

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quantum:

err noise

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quantum:

there is no combination that works, I can choose dsp or adsp for the audio output device and defuat or alsa:bla blah for the passthrough output device, no choice for mixer

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quantum:

xmms and other stuff do work so the audio seems to work on the computer

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quantum:

hmm I found out that the audio configuration utility for gnome does not play sound either

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quantum:

this is weird

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iamlindoro:

Sounds like gnome and myth are in OSS mode rather than ALSA... I believe you can swap in that Gnome configuration tool

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iamlindoro:

Actually, I know you can if we are talking about the same tool

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quantum:

hmm that could be

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quantum:

any idea what it would be under

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iamlindoro:

No myth box in front of me... believe it's a pull down at the top of the gnome configuration dialog where you can play test sounds

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iamlindoro:

once you find it, keep in mind that it may require an X restart, so don't fret if it doesn't work at first

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quantum:

well I found test under user settings and it does appear to be set to alsa

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quantum:

everything seems to work fine at that level

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quantum:

when I launch myth I notice it does increase the sytem volume

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quantum:

maybe not, it didn't repeat

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quantum:

o..k if I set mixer to master, when I change the volume in myth it does affect other audio playing, so I guess that means the mixer or something is correclty setup

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quantum:

do I need mysql and mythbackend for a frontend system that attaches to a networked backend?

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darkwizard:

i think my box is so screwed

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quantum:

SIP listening on IP Address 192.168.0.6:5060 NAT address 192.168.0.6

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quantum:

2007-10–29 23:20:57.277 New DB connection, total: 2

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quantum:

SIP: Cannot register; proxy, username or password not set

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quantum:

2007-10–29 23:20:57.279 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: charity

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quantum:

2007-10–29 23:21:03.591 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.0.5:6543 (try 1 of 5)

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quantum:

2007-10–29 23:21:03.592 Using protocol version 31

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quantum:

2007-10–29 23:21:03.598 TV: Attempting to change from None to WatchingLiveTV

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quantum:

what the heck is SIP, would that prevent the audio from working?

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iamlindoro:

Why do you think it would prevent audio from working?

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iamlindoro:

SIP is IP Phone

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iamlindoro:

quantum, you don't need mythbackend for a frontend box

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quantum:

how about mysql

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iamlindoro:

you just need the client of that

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iamlindoro:

not the server

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quantum:

yeah guess I have that, well somthing is very screwed with the audio

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quantum:

seems like the mixer or something even works since I can affect other audio by changing the master volume on myth

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iamlindoro:

Sounds like you should set the output device using the alsa way (ALSA:{etc etc}

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iamlindoro:

but you'll have to figure that out, 'cause I don't do it so can't help you

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quantum:

why does it say Opening OSS audio device '/dev/adsp' if I am using alsa and not oss

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iamlindoro:

Couldn't tell ya

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quantum:

must be some more audio settings somewher

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iamlindoro:

Myth's only ones are in the general settings dialog

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quantum:

well I can even play files with aplayer

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quantum:

makes no sense whatsoever

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iamlindoro:

Sounds like it's probably not myth's fault, sounds like alsa is screwy

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quantum:

could be, though pretty much everything else works except for the audio test in gnome ha,

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quantum:

any idea what teh passthrough output device is versus the audio output device

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JohnRobert:

I have an amd64 2.2ghz or something 512mb ram, ubuntu 7.10 with mythtv freshly installed, I get a delay on the audio on files that play fine on my laptop... any ideas? It's using all the default settings

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JohnRobert:

the card is an nvidia mx 4 or something...fairly new

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quantum:

try turning on the extra audio buffering

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JohnRobert:

where would I find that?

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quantum:

setup general

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JohnRobert:

I also find that I get the same prob with just playing the file outside of myth

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quantum:

agressive sound card buffering

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JohnRobert:

(via mplayer)

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JohnRobert:

I think totem plays it fine

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JohnRobert:

(can't really remember)

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quantum:

is teh file over the network

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JohnRobert:

no

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JohnRobert:

it's strange, I've always had this problem.. it's one of these systems: http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv.php (asus pundit)

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JohnRobert:

I think it's something to do with the video driver actually, but not too sure.

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quantum:

how is your system load

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JohnRobert:

nothingness

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JohnRobert:

as you'd expect

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quantum:

during playing audio file or whenever the problem occurs

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JohnRobert:

hmm

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quantum:

I would expect it would be very low

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JohnRobert:

how do I find out the load again?

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quantum:

you don't have a ton of ram so if it has to swap anything that could slow things down also, but you can check ram usage, system load etc.

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quantum:

anway got to run

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quantum:

good luck

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JohnRobert:

ta

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JohnRobert:

I get the feeling my a/v sync issue is something to do with a timing mechanism that mplayer relies on, but impossible for someone of my knowledge to be able to tell

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drmitch:

whenever i try to start up mythfrontend (or mythtv-setup with a CLEAN db) my X server crashes. can anyone help?

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darkwizard:

i get this using mythfrontend

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darkwizard:

runtime prefix=/usr/local

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darkwizard:

dphs is active

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darkwizard:

dbhostname is not set in mysql.txt

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darkwizard:

assuming localhost

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darkwizard:

new db connection total:1

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darkwizard:

then quits

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darkwizard:

anyone help me fix it

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cesman:

darkwizard: if X is crashing, perhaps looking in /var/log/Xorg.log...

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cesman:

or ~/.xsession-errors

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darkwizard:

my box is totaly fucked

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cesman:

is this a new box?

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darkwizard:

yes

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darkwizard:

i think it time to wipe it and put windows on it

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cesman:

have you don't things such as tested the RAM, perhaps a CPU torture test?

[07:10:20]

darkwizard:

nope

[07:10:42]

cesman:

perhaps you should...

[07:10:54]

darkwizard:

it fucked

[07:11:02]

cesman:

if the issue is your hardware, doesn't matter which OS you have...

[07:11:44]

darkwizard:

it was working till db got fucked

[07:12:24]

darkwizard:

first time with linux and mythtv

[07:12:28]

cesman:

A jacked db shouldn't account for X crashing....

[07:13:12]

cesman:

I'd suggest running memtest and perhaps a CPU torture test

[07:13:43]

cesman:

if your db is jacked and you cannot repair it, then a clean install

[07:13:56]

darkwizard:

x not crashing

[07:14:19]

cesman:

doh!

[07:14:22]

cesman:

my bad...

[07:14:27]

cesman:

that was drmitch

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darkwizard:

i get this using mythfrontend

[07:14:50]

darkwizard:

runtime prefix=/usr/local

[07:14:50]

darkwizard:

dphs is active

[07:14:50]

darkwizard:

dbhostname is not set in mysql.txt

[07:14:50]

darkwizard:

assuming localhost

[07:14:51]

darkwizard:

new db connection total:1

[07:14:53]

darkwizard:

then quits

[07:15:09]

darkwizard:

it fucked

[07:15:44]

cesman:

again, check the db for errors

[07:16:34]

darkwizard:

what part of first time with linux don't u understand

[07:16:45]

darkwizard:

i don't know how

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cesman:

first off, I'm attempting to help

[07:17:11]

darkwizard:

i know

[07:17:20]

darkwizard:

i been up for days

[07:17:27]

darkwizard:

working on this

[07:17:28]

cesman:

then why the attitude?

[07:17:50]

cesman:

just because it is your first time doesn't mean you don't know MySQL....

[07:18:00]

cesman:

MySQL isn't exclusive to Linux...

[07:18:35]

darkwizard:

never used mysql

[07:18:37]

cesman:

at any rate, if someone tells you something, your _appropriate_ response should be, and you please explain

[07:18:53]

cesman:

can you please explain

[07:19:14]

cesman:

which distribution are you using?

[07:19:26]

darkwizard:

newest one

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cesman:

Fedora, Suse, KnoppMyth, MythDora, Gentoo

[07:19:59]

cesman:

those are Linux Distributions

[07:20:05]

darkwizard:

debain

[07:20:14]

cesman:

ok

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cesman:

then as root /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop

[07:20:49]

cesman:

/etc/init.d/mysql stop

[07:22:02]

darkwizard:

debian:~# /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop

[07:22:02]

darkwizard:

-bash: /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend: No such file or directory

[07:22:21]

cesman:

How did you install MythTV?

[07:22:40]

darkwizard:

threw hooch's gudie

[07:22:53]

cesman:

I'm unfamiliar with said guide

[07:23:25]

cesman:

at any rate....

[07:23:31]

cesman:

stop MySQL

[07:23:38]

cesman:

then to check the db

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darkwizard:

http://www.hoochvdr.info/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=437

[07:24:00]

darkwizard:

how do i check db

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cesman:

myisamchk -f /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg/*.MYI

[07:26:18]

darkwizard:

debian:~# myisamchk -f /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg/*.MYI

[07:26:18]

darkwizard:

myisamchk: error: File '/var/lib/mysql/mythconverg/*.MYI' doesn't exist

[07:26:18]

darkwizard:

myisamchk: error: File '/var/lib/mysql/mythconverg/*.MYI' doesn't exist

[07:28:15]

cesman:

well, I cannot access that guide as I need to register

[07:29:07]

darkwizard:

cesman check pm

[07:29:38]

cesman:

what pm?

[07:29:50]

darkwizard:

private message

[07:30:06]

cesman:

again, what pm? I see no pm from you

[07:30:13]

cesman:

and I am registered

[07:31:34]

cesman:

try: find / -name recorded.MYI

[07:31:42]

cesman:

it may take a few minutes...

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dvbs-htpc:

explain please

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cesman:

hellspawn: the about command should find a file names recorded.MYI

[07:35:52]

cesman:

that will tell us where your files are...

[07:36:35]

cesman:

then the other command can be ran to check the files

[07:37:47]

hellsarmysleader:

so i type in find / -name recorded.myi

[07:38:08]

cesman:

no

[07:38:14]

cesman:

find / -name recorded.MYI

[07:38:33]

hellsarmysleader:

yeah

[07:38:38]

hellsarmysleader:

debian:~# find / -name recorded.MYI

[07:38:38]

hellsarmysleader:

debian:~#

[07:39:29]

tank-man:

you type mythfrontend and what do you see? paste the error in a "pastebin"

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hellsarmysleader:

who me

[07:40:17]

hellsarmysleader:

i get this using mythfrontend

[07:40:18]

hellsarmysleader:

runtime prefix=/usr/local

[07:40:18]

hellsarmysleader:

dphs is active

[07:40:18]

hellsarmysleader:

dbhostname is not set in mysql.txt

[07:40:18]

hellsarmysleader:

assuming localhost

[07:40:18]

hellsarmysleader:

new db connection total:1

[07:40:20]

hellsarmysleader:

then quits

[07:40:50]

hellsarmysleader:

does it with mythtv-setup and mythbackend and mythfrontend

[07:41:43]

tank-man:

paste your info here so as not to flood the room, http://pastebin.com/

[07:42:11]

hellsarmysleader:

that all there was

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tank-man:

what ip did you set in the setup info ?

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hellsarmysleader:

none

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hellsarmysleader:

never got that far

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cesman:

hellsarmysleader: so, you never got anything setup?

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tank-man:

i can't see the guide you said you followed cause its a forum that needs registitration

[07:45:18]

cesman:

the first thing should should do, isn't run the frontend

[07:45:37]

cesman:

I must be tired...

[07:45:50]

cesman:

the first thing you should do, isn't run the frontend

[07:46:19]

cesman:

you must run mythtv-setup to add your tuner card, etc.

[07:46:48]

hellsarmysleader:

won't get that far

[07:46:58]

cesman:

hellsarmysleader: is this box going to be a dedicated HTPC?

[07:47:05]

hellsarmysleader:

yes

[07:47:15]

hellsarmysleader:

it a hell of a box

[07:47:27]

cesman:

then might I suggest KnoppMyth

[07:47:33]

cesman:

it has all you need

[07:47:48]

hellsarmysleader:

p4 2.3ghz 1 g ram 300gigs

[07:48:07]

hellsarmysleader:

is it for dvb-s

[07:48:35]

cesman:

you don't seem to have the patiences to build a MythTV box as someone new to Linux....

[07:48:48]

directhex:

hell of a box? not going to go far with HD

[07:48:55]

hellsarmysleader:

7–8 days 24/7

[07:49:20]

hellsarmysleader:

don't need hd

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cesman:

what, is that how long you've been attempt to get the box going?

[07:49:32]

hellsarmysleader:

yes

[07:49:45]

cesman:

KnoppMyth dude...

[07:49:48]

hellsarmysleader:

24 hours no sleep

[07:49:56]

cesman:

boot off the CD and do an auto install

[07:50:04]

hellsarmysleader:

up for 8 days

[07:50:08]

cesman:

where are you?

[07:50:16]

hellsarmysleader:

pa

[07:50:18]

hellsarmysleader:

usa

[07:50:45]

cesman:

then, have you signed up for Schedules Direct?

[07:50:53]

hellsarmysleader:

no

[07:50:54]

** directhex wonders how one makes things so difficult **

[07:51:22]

hellsarmysleader:

i might put windows and take of linux

[07:51:25]

anykey_:

hellsarmysleader: I thought you guys in US have such a thing called Dish-Network, which is encrypted (so no DVB-S)?

[07:51:30]

cesman:

sign up for Schdules Direct

[07:51:40]

anxt:

wtf

[07:51:51]

anxt:

sd was easy

[07:51:57]

anxt:

it was only 20 bux

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directhex:

hellsarmysleader, feel free, if it does what you need. that's £70 for a windows license, of course

[07:52:12]

hellsarmysleader:

lol

[07:52:18]

hellsarmysleader:

free in usa

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anxt:

poeple pay for winodws?

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anxt:

i make all my customers pay

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hellsarmysleader:

i have windows black

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directhex:

oh god ¬_¬

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directhex:

stupid *tender loving* children

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anxt:

thre is no fucking way i am, going down for a 20 dollar license

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hellsarmysleader:

lol

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directhex:

i'm going to work. like, in the real world, where money exists.

[07:53:25]

hellsarmysleader:

hell that least of my problems

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** cesman wonders off to do better things... **

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hellsarmysleader:

direcrhex lol

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anxt:

]that is awesome

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DGnome:

Hey! Was there an option that did away with interlacing when using s-video out with nvidia boards or did it work straight out of the box?

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sebrock:

anyone using G33-based motherboard?

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Tanthrix:

DGnome: If you're referring to the "magical" deinterlacing that nvidia does, that's technically called the "Anti-flicker filter" or some such thing which is in nvidia-settings

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Tanthrix:

DGnome: It supposedly does a damn good job of deinterlacing if you can get it set right, but it only works for tv-out. Otherwise you have to use one of myth's built in deinterlacers.

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DGnome:

Tanthrix: anti-flicker, that's it. Just have to find a suitable modeline and put in my second hand nvidia 6200 :) thanks!

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Tanthrix:

No prob.

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mzb:

anyone know if there are plans to make the soft time padding more complicated?

[09:40:52]

mzb:

ie. per channel, per time-of-day, etc?

[09:42:16]

mzb:

eg: I have some #'s that are (almost) always on time, and others which are fairly good in the morning, but by midnight, are over 15mins late

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mzb:

I guess I'd better ask on #myth

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rooaus:

mzb: No, I don't think so. There was a softpad branch but it wasn't merge to trunk. I think the multirec branch will address most issues.

[09:43:37]

mzb:

I've got hard-pad at 0, but soft-pad at -5/+15

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mzb:

eg1: raymond at 1am (?) ... two shows ... if they're running 13 mins late, I (just) get both shows, but have to do editing

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mzb:

if they're running 20mins late, I get one show, but still have to edit

[09:45:59]

mzb:

I assume I'm using the correct terms

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rooaus:

With multirec it will be able to honour the hard limits by writing to two files during the overlap.

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mzb:

doesn't that assume two tuners or the same transport?

[09:47:08]

mzb:

in which case multirec is not what I'm after

[09:47:23]

mzb:

(as much as I'd like to have >1 "usable" tuners;)

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rooaus:

Ah yes, in that case not quiet what you want :)

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mzb:

hmm, seems like a simple idea to include weighting for channels + time-of-day

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mzb:

seeing as priorities (et al) are already included

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rooaus:

The softpad branch may get some love after multirec gets merged, however it is way out of date (r11261!). Multirec changes things a bit though, so it may just fade into the distance.

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sebastian__:

Need some help with ACPI on my frontend

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arnold:

hi all

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arnold:

why when i'm playing back video on my hdtv the motion is still a bit jerky? im using bobdeint

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arnold:

is there a better deinterlacing option?

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directhex|work:

what's your cpu?

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arnold:

athlon dual core 5400+

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arnold:

its not a framerate problem, its a deinterlacing problem

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arnold:

its possible i could switch to 1080i but the nvidia drivers are shit

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Jarda:

what's the correct place to discuss about feature requests?

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rooaus:

The wiki is the official feature request repository (I believe). What is the request?

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rooaus:

Jarda: See http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Feature_Wishlist

[11:43:14]

Jarda:

well it would be great to be able to resize the window freely when using frontend in windowed mode

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directhex|work:

easier said

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Jarda:

I like to watch tv in a window while I'm working. And it's just annoying to stop mythbackend to be able to watch tv with mplayer

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rooaus:

You don't need to stop mythbackend. Just configure mythbackend to release the card when not in use/recording.

[11:46:20]

Jarda:

really?

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Jarda:

how is that done?

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Jarda:

I'm trying to find it

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** rooaus checks in mythtv-setup **

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rooaus:

Jarda: Don't have a capture card in my latop. Have you tried mythtv-setup and looked at the capture card setup?

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Jarda:

have to check when I get home

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rooaus:

I think that is where it is, someone else who can access a backend with a tuner might be able to confirm. Or perhaps the docs might help.

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atoulan:

i found out that when i watching a channel from dvb 30 minutes segments are created in the database, but when trying to watch from composite source it 1 hr segment

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atoulan:

is this normal?

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sebrock:

can anyone help me with ACPI, computer will sleep and wake (sort of) but nothing works, LAN etc.. when resumed. And syslog gets flooded with some error messages about printk and Buffer I/O on /dev/sr0

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atoulan:

and how can I make watching from composite that same as DVB channel( I mean in segment size )

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mzb:

sebrock: google for "your distro" and "debug suspend problem"

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sebrock:

mzb oh I have done that :D

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sebrock:

it's real killer

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mzb:

if you had, you'd probably have found that there's a procedure

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sebrock:

just wondering of anyone using G33 based stuff here

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sebrock:

mzb, OK got Ubuntu (Mythbuntu) running on it

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mzb:

find that procedure and follow it

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sebrock:

ok

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sebrock:

I'll try

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jeffery:

I am creating a new partition for my mythtv data.. any favourite paths ?

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mzb:

jeffery: personally, I prefer xfs on lvm

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jeffery:

mzb, thats what I am aiming for.. but I was wondering were do people mount the data .. somewhere in /var ?

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mzb:

err ... actually I have mount points all from over the place (local, nfs, etc)

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mzb:

what I do is mount everything using a name that makes sense under /mnt/

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jeffery:

lol ok

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mzb:

and then bind mount to somewhere under /mythtv

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jeffery:

yep thanks

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mzb:

so that on each mythbox, the positions of the files & dirs is the same

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mzb:

(nfs4 comes in handy, too;)

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mzb:

(the two "magic" export options being fsid=0 and crossmnt)

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jeffery:

not a big user of nfs :(

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mzb:

can't live without it

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anykey_:

jeffery: i mount mine under /media

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mzb:

I prefer to avoid /media as it's used by many(?) distros for mounting removable media

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jeffery:

anykey_, /media seems to be a KDE thing ?/

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mzb:

no

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anykey_:

jeffery: I don't know, I've all my stuff on the server under /media, and I mount the same structure over NFS on the clients...

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mzb:

at least debian and ubuntu use it ... can't speak for others

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jeffery:

oh ok

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mzb:

ie: probably most debian related distros

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mzb:

ah, and I remember on the machines that export, there are bind mounts to /export subdirs

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mzb:

so local + remote stuff is /mnt, exports are /exports and mythtv-specific is /mythtv

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mzb:

that's just a rule I've been using (in this case)

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mzb:

it can get confusing if you don't have (a few) rules:

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mzb:

wench:~# lvdisplay -C | wc -l

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mzb:

72

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adante:

is there a way to make the font size in mythvideo smaller?

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sebrock:

strangly I am able to resuma after a suspend, but LAN is dead, and restarting networking doesnt help either

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Toxicity999:

How do I properly get MythVideo to stream from my server? would it be better just to do an sshfs mount and point it to that or is there an internal way of doing it better?

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Dr_Willis:

Toxicity999 depends a lot on your network. and what you are streaming.

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Dr_Willis:

Last i tried to get MythTV to stream my video files – it couldent. It could stream the recordings id had made however.

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Dr_Willis:

Or you could go the upnp route.

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Toxicity999:

meh, the video I have saved is way lower bitrate than the PVR150 MPEG Raws it streams fine

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Toxicity999:

I'm clocking an average of 20MB/s LAN speed.

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Toxicity999:

I'll try tricking it with sshfs later, to avoid any slow down client end.

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Dr_Willis:

for linux to linux box on local lan. NFS may be the most efficnent

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Toxicity999:

Probably right.

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Jarda:

I can't find how to setup mythbackend to release the device when not using it

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Daviey:

why would you need to?

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Jarda:

so that I could watch tv with mplayer

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Daviey:

why not just record using mythbackend?!

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Jarda:

why would I want to record, if I just wanted to watch tv

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directhex|work:

it's a card setting in mythbackend step 2

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Jarda:

directhex|work: mythtv-config?

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Jarda:

mythtv-setup i meant

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Daviey:

:/ why not use mythfrontend+livetv?

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Daviey:

I can't understand why you would want to watch tv out of myth

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Dr_Willis:

I like being able to pause the show. then come back to it. :)

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Jarda:

because the mythtv-window isn't easily enough resizeable

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Jarda:

I like to watch tv in a window while I'm working. And I want to be able to resize it on the fly

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Daviey:

Jarda: mythtv frontend as a window should do that fine

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Daviey:

not that i have tried it recently..

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Jarda:

Daviey: it's not resizeable

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Jarda:

easily enough

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Jarda:

I have to resize it from menus

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jonK_:

anyone around?

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cesman:

one less now...

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jams:

heh snappy comeback

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cesman:

and people say I don't have a sense of humor

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cesman:

gotta head out myself

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jonK_:

I need some help, mythbackend wont start, it tells me:

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jonK_:

No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.

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jonK_:

but in the settings table, IP Addresses are set and are correct

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jonK_:

anyone have any thoughts?

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jedix:

is it the same machine?

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jedix:

oh, sorry

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jedix:

read wrong

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jedix:

no ideas here

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jedix:

do you have portmap installed?

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jonK_:

yes I do believe i do

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jonK_:

but I'm not very familiar with it

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jonK_:

mailx

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jonK_:

oops....

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Adam24:

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leprasmurf:

hello all

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mkrufky:

no patience

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mkrufky:

...and i was about to say hi

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EnterUserName:

anyone have PSP here?

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zabin:

Hello i have a quick question

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zabin:

I have a desktop computer that i use as my main computer

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zabin:

Frontend Desktop?

[20:08:48]

** zabin would i want to use Frontend Desktop? **

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iamlindoro_:

Are your referring to a setting on one of the myth-specific distros or something?

[20:11:12]

iamlindoro_:

an install settings, that is?

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iamlindoro_:

You know, or just leave, which is fine...

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** iamlindoro_ rolls his eyes... **

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Kritter:

for what it's worth I had no idea what he ment either.

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iamlindoro_:

Heh

[20:15:08]

iamlindoro_:

Sounds like one of the install presets on mythbuntu or something... But I guss we'll never know :)

[20:15:10]

iamlindoro_:

er guess

[20:15:40]

iamlindoro_:

Anyway, I'm sure he'll install that and come in asking why his frontend can't connect to his backend... since he won't be isntalling one

[20:17:19]

Kritter:

my best guess would be to tell him to 'run myth in a window' or whatever that's called.

[20:17:27]

Kritter:

I know there's a checkbox for it.

[20:17:37]

Kritter:

then he can do whatever he likes on his desktop

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iamlindoro_:

Meh, he should just install Ubuntu properly and then apt-get install mythtv and call 'er quits

[20:18:25]

iamlindoro_:

Alt-tab never hurt anyone ;)

[20:18:28]

Kritter:

did that with debian myself.

[20:19:00]

Kritter:

but every time I boot I have to restart the backend cause the front end can never see it fast enough, it's a puzzle.

[20:19:01]

iamlindoro_:

Case in point :)

[20:19:44]

iamlindoro_:

If that's the problem you could bang together a quick bash script to invoke the backend, then the frontend, with a pause in between

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Kritter:

I started with knoppmyth or something then said 'why is what should be making my life easier, making it harder and gabbed my Etch image'

[20:20:32]

Kritter:

backend starts as root I think, and frontend as mythtv, else I'd just do the restart in the autologin

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iamlindoro_:

Ah. I've got my perms a bit different and can run backend as mythtv... hmmm, well, fair enough

[20:21:19]

iamlindoro_:

Still, though, you could invoke frontend from a script and begin it with a pause of 10 seconds or something

[20:21:33]

iamlindoro_:

ie:

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iamlindoro_:

#!/bin/sh

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iamlindoro_:

sleep 10

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iamlindoro_:

/usr/local/bin/mythfrontend

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iamlindoro_:

or something like that

[20:22:14]

iamlindoro_:

granted, you still end up waiting a bit longer, but maybe it would help with your problem

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Kritter:

I lie, mythtv owns backend

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iamlindoro_:

all the better

[20:22:46]

Kritter:

so I should be able to pull it off on the autologin.

[20:23:17]

Kritter:

but only need to do it on reboot, not everytime I happen to restart-X. You can tell I've not spent much time trying to fix it

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iamlindoro_:

Should be... or write yourself an init script and go backnd there

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Kritter:

well the init script is there, that's how I restart it.

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iamlindoro_:

ah... hmm, it isn't starting it on startup though, huh?

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Kritter:

just not sure why the front end tells me it's not there.

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Kritter:

I'd have to check the language in the init script.

[20:24:33]

iamlindoro_:

I guess it could be one of a million things, really

[20:24:43]

Kritter:

I'm sending restart, but restart might not be checking for if it's actually running.

[20:24:47]

iamlindoro_:

if it's piping to a mythbackend log, that's probably your best source of info

[20:25:03]

Kritter:

My impression is that it is, and I am in fact restarting, not starting for the first time.

[20:25:39]

Kritter:

here is the real puzzle, watchign dvds on mythtv, tv series mostly, into episode 3–4 on a disk, it just stops.

[20:25:39]

iamlindoro_:

hmm... do you do anything funky with your capture card modules? Load them in rc.local or anything like that?

[20:26:04]

iamlindoro_:

I'm not too much help with that, I'm afraid... I usually rip everything on my mac and just dump them on the SAMBA share

[20:26:21]

iamlindoro_:

Mostly due to my checkered past with MythDVD :)

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Kritter:

Handbrake for the win.

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iamlindoro_:

'zactly

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Kritter:

I only really have 3 problems, the 3rd is transcodes to xvid just don't.

[20:27:32]

Kritter:

but I'm really happy with mythtv.

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iamlindoro_:

I script all my transcodes and just do them as user jobs

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Kritter:

mine all fail.

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iamlindoro_:

ie, I don't use mythtranscode, I just write bash scripts and call ffmpeg

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Kritter:

I was running them by hand, for long t term archive of some stuff, they die I think in audio land.

[20:28:27]

iamlindoro_:

hmmm

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Kritter:

I honestly want to point handbreak at the .nue files.

[20:28:44]

iamlindoro_:

I have been thinking about switching over the mythtranscode jobs, maybe I shouldn't

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Kritter:

oh and mythgame doesn't work.

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iamlindoro_:

How so? I have it set up pretty well, maybe I can assist

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Kritter:

I think I named it down to something to do with the path/names of my roms.

[20:30:28]

Kritter:

er nailed.

[20:30:44]

Kritter:

my logs for my transcode jobs are dead.

[20:30:47]

Kritter:

er deleted.

[20:31:08]

Kritter:

so I can't show you the logs hinting at audio problems.

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iamlindoro_:

hmmm... well it may help to put the %s variable for your emulators in quotes, ie "%s" so that rom names with spaces work OK

[20:31:34]

iamlindoro_:

if you haven't already, that is

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Kritter:

I forget what I tried at this point- some of it I wish was configurable not via X/gui.

[20:32:22]

Kritter:

though I think the mythweb folks are doing more and more.

[20:32:41]

Kritter:

I'm happy enough tweaking stuff on the cmd line if it's silly thinks like paths.

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iamlindoro_:

Well to a certain extent it is... I think I call most/all my emulators with scripts I wrote, and just point to those in mythgame

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Kritter:

have you looked at linuxmce? or am I about to get hit by lightening bolts for mentioning it?

[20:33:46]

iamlindoro_:

Hahaha, possibly/probably

[20:34:06]

iamlindoro_:

I despise the UI, it's like the ugliest thing I have ever seen... although the concept is very cool

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Kritter:

someone who ran the mythbox I first say in person said that's what they were gonna do next- given the mythbox they had died.

[20:34:43]

Kritter:

I watched the video and was impressed enough.

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iamlindoro_:

Rotating, OpnGL eye candy isn't much good when you've hacked the surfaces together with MS Paint, ha

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Kritter:

and giggled alot when they still dumped out to myth for the tv.

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Kritter:

the one thing I did like – if it's to be believed is was the install.

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iamlindoro_:

I need to stop building myth machines.. every time I get tempted to do that or home automation, I remind myself I live in a three room condo

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Kritter:

I still have somethign wrong with my ivtv firmware if my dmesg is to be believed.

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iamlindoro_:

you can pastebin it if you want to take a look at that

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iamlindoro_:

what's your card?

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Kritter:

it lists the 'best' firmware and I don't have it.

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Kritter:

http://www.pastebin.ca/755655

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Kritter:

having said that, my firmware is newer.

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iamlindoro_:

yeah... I don't have a PVR-500 so it may pay to check with one of them, but I expect that message is standard

[20:40:00]

iamlindoro_:

Any obvious encoder problems?

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Kritter:

nothign I can say is encoder not-rogers-cable-sucks.

[20:41:01]

Kritter:

other than the issues I mentioned the came up with transcoding to xvid.

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iamlindoro_:

yeah... well, since ivtv doesn't require manually getting a firmware any more, and it handles it itself, I guess you *could* try an ivtv update, but I expect you are probably ok

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Kritter:

I'm tracking the debian-multimedia sources.

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iamlindoro_:

Dunno how up to date those are, you probably know better

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Kritter:

and I think I'm just using a kernal package for that from them now.

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Kritter:

they got some update less than a month ago.

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iamlindoro_:

Yeah, I bet you are ok

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Kritter:

which broke playback.

[20:42:44]

iamlindoro_:

heh

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Kritter:

old bug with disableing OpenGL effects on Nvidia cards or something.

[20:43:33]

iamlindoro_:

Yeah, maybe the ivtv dev list might be able to shed some light

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Kritter:

how complicated are your transcode scripts?

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iamlindoro_:

Not too bad... variables for bitrate, resolution, and audio bitrate, and two passes with ffmpeg

[20:45:18]

iamlindoro_:

Short litttle one-pagers

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iamlindoro_:

I'd share but they are at home... I can post them later if you are around

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iamlindoro_:

They aren't *perfect* just yet because I'm experimenting with my hi def transcode script, but they're getting there

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iamlindoro_:

My next step is to drop in some mythtranscode lines to use the commerical flags as cutpoints, do a lossless transcode to remove them, and then compress to 720p x264

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iamlindoro_:

Right now they are just "dumb" transcode scripts

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mikeones:

hello

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Kritter:

right. I just want it not to bail out.

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Kritter:

it finds a 0 channel audio and fails IIRC.

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jonK_:

hi. somehow I've convinced my only backend that it's a slave backend.

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jonK_:

which it is not

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jonK_:

and I'm looking for some advice on how to fix

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jonK_:

ifconfig

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xris:

jonK_: did the machine name change?

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marenz:

anybody using a hauppauge pvr 150 ? i need some help setting up my remote control, cant get it working, kernel modules loaded but irw doesn't provide any output

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iamlindoro_:

marenz, does mode2?

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iamlindoro_:

and is lirc running?

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iamlindoro_:

first, try mode2 and press some buttons

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jonK_:

i dont think so, at least I haven't intentionally done anything to change it

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jonK_:

and hostname gives me what i expect

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xris:

have you gone through mythtv-setup again? rebooted?

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jonK_:

i did notice one of the host fields in the setting table was "NULL" so I did try entering the correct name

[21:15:21]

jonK_:

no, I'm not at home, and wont be a while, would like to get back running remotely

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xris:

some of those settings fields need NULL for host. global settings, etc.

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marenz:

iamlindoro, lircd is running .. mode2 doesn't give output either

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jonK_:

how about MasterServerIP and MasterPort?

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jonK_:

null or hostname?

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iamlindoro_:

marenz, ls -al /dev/lirc* and give/pastebin the output

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marenz:

iamlindoro, first dmesg -> http://rafb.net/p/EsZKD625.html and the ls -la -> http://rafb.net/p/hZK9cr17.html

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iamlindoro_:

marenz, have you tried mode2 with the explicit device statement, ie mode2 -d /dev/lirc/0?

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marenz:

iamlindoro, does not produce output either

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marenz:

iamlindoro, i already checked the receiver is plugged in properly

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iamlindoro_:

OKmarenze, what distro?

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marenz:

iamlindoro, gentoo, could it be that still another kernel module is missing?

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iamlindoro_:

I believe so

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iamlindoro_:

but I don't know the on-board PVR-150 IR very well... I know there are several to load for it though

[21:22:13]

jonK_:

well, I set MasterServerIP and port back to NULL, still getting

[21:22:18]

jonK_:

No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.

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jonK_:

when I try to run mythbackend

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marenz:

iamlindoro, so perhaps enabling several of the i2c drivers could work

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iamlindoro_:

Probably... let me see if I can find which modules

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jonK_:

any thoughts?

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iamlindoro_:

looks like lirc_dev and lirc_i2c

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iamlindoro_:

are the proper modules

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marenz:

iamlindoro, lsmod shows both as loaded

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iamlindoro_:

out of curiosity, and chance sudo mode2 works?

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marenz:

iamlindoro, i already tried as root

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iamlindoro_:

further, have you added lirc_i2c to your modprobe.d/aliases (Don't know Gentoo, YMMV)

[21:28:35]

jonK_:

imalindoro: may have already been covered, but have you set up the lircd.conf and .lircrc files for your particualr remote?

[21:29:16]

marenz:

iamlindoro, i only have a line # Support for i2c and lm_sensors alias char-major-89 i2c-dev in my /etc/modules.d/aliases ... don't even know what this file is good for ..have never had to touch it before

[21:30:07]

iamlindoro_:

jonk, that won't work for him, he gets no output from mode2 which doesn't requite the lircd.conf

[21:30:26]

iamlindoro_:

Which is why I had him check it first, so it rules out the easy stuff

[21:33:30]

iamlindoro_:

marenz, is that line commented out or uncommented?

[21:34:09]

iamlindoro_:

On Ubuntu or Debian, the line would be (between char-major-60 and 63):

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iamlindoro_:

alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c

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marenz:

uncommented, just didn't want to spam the channel so i merged it into one line

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alan|home:

hey all

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alan|home:

my mythtv is getting weirder and weirder

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iamlindoro_:

One thing I notice from your dmesg is that you didn't get a:

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alan|home:

i don't have sound anymore when i watch live tv (from dvb-t card) but i do have sound when i play a video (mplayer)

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marenz:

iamlindoro, my file says i2c-dev instead of lirc_i2c, but i have added lirc_i2c to modules.autoload if that is of interest

[21:37:09]

iamlindoro_:

ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=Hauppauge IR (PVR150), addr=71]

[21:37:13]

iamlindoro_:

Which, i believe, you should

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alan|home:

does anyone understand where it could come from ?

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marenz:

iamlindoro, what does that mean? could you explain?

[21:38:31]

iamlindoro_:

dmesg should have an ivtv line that states i2c has "bonded" to your pvr150, which it doesn't

[21:38:58]

iamlindoro_:

Everything go okay when building lirc and modules? No warnings or errors? I really won't be able to help too much more because I don't use Gentoo

[21:39:39]

alan|home:

ok; i see this in the output "2007-10–30 22:30:12.195 AudioOutput Error: WARNING: something is currently using: /dev/sound/dsp, retrying." How do i know what is using /dev/sound/dsp ?

[21:40:11]

marenz:

iamlindoro, yes, lirc built and starts up just fine

[21:40:27]

iamlindoro_:

All the same, your lirc appears to be the problem

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marenz:

iamlindoro, so i'll investigate further ..thanks for your help/time so far

[21:41:03]

iamlindoro_:

or, possibly, ivtv, I guess

[21:41:12]

iamlindoro_:

yeah, good luck

[21:43:40]

iamlindoro_:

Hey, just for fun, I presume you are testing with the hauppauge remote, right?

[21:43:56]

iamlindoro_:

Have you tried, just for giggles, another remote with mode2?

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iamlindoro_:

Because I am looking at this again and it really *does* appear that it should be working

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marenz:

iamlindoro, mode2 -d /dev/lirc/0 with other rcs doesn't give any outppot, too

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iamlindoro_:

bummer

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clever:

../../libs/libmythui/libmythui-0.20.so: undefined reference to `LircClient::LircClient(QObject*)'

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clever:

./configure --disable-audio-alsa --disable-lirc --disable-audio-jack

[21:47:04]

clever:

lirc isnt installed

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clever:

and i dont need it on this host

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clever:

yet it wont build

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clever:

its also havign a similar error with alsa

[21:49:06]

clever:

/usr/bin/ld: warning: libjack-0.100.0.so.0, needed by ../../libs/libmythlivemedia/libmythlivemedia-0.20.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)

[21:49:17]

clever:

its also having trouble by other disabled things

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iamlindoro_:

clever, any chance you configured that copy of it /w alsa or lirc support in the past?

[21:50:32]

clever:

yeah

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clever:

i stole this copy from another host

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iamlindoro_:

did you do a make clean before configuring it?

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clever:

not yet

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iamlindoro_:

then that's why

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clever:

i expect the make file to be smart enough to handle that

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iamlindoro_:

so do that, and if that doesn't work, then svn out a copy of the same revision again

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iamlindoro_:

nope, never

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clever:

the kernel make file is better at handling config changes without a make clean

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iamlindoro_:

anyway, that should get you sorted out, I would think

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clever:

also im using a bit of a old version

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clever:

a few weeks old

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clever:

if i simply checkout id need to upgrade the other boxes also

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iamlindoro_:

not if you checkout the same revision

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clever:

yeah but i forget the cmd for that

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iamlindoro_:

svn co -r 14305, etc

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clever:

also im not shure exactly which one i have

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iamlindoro_:

mythbackend -0version should tell you

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clever:

mythtv@theP4:~/mythtvbuild/mythtv$ svn info

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iamlindoro_:

er --version

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clever:

Revision: 14574

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clever:

Last Changed Rev: 14572

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clever:

it names 2 revsions

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iamlindoro_:

there you go, svn co -r 14572 svn://svn.mythtv.org/mythtv/trunk mythtv

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iamlindoro_:

either will work

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clever:

i'll try doing a make clean on peices of the tree

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clever:

dont want to spend another few hours rebuilding agan

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bsdfox_:

14572 is pretty old

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bsdfox_:

Installed versions: 0.20.2_p14680

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clever:

one of my boxes takes an hour to rebuild a single .cpp file

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clever:

alot of swaping

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clever:

the mem usage seems related to the size of the cpp file

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iamlindoro_:

Ah *hour* for one file? What are you building it on, an abacus??

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iamlindoro_:

I compiled all of myth in undr an hour on an old 1.6 Ghz Pentium

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clever:

400mhz

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clever:

MemTotal: 223624 kB

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iamlindoro_:

owwie

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iamlindoro_:

What are you doing with that box?

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clever:

swaping is the main problem

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clever:

thats a frontend

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clever:

and a flager/transcoder

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iamlindoro_:

Yikes... I used to have a fairly low end myth box, but then decided it wasn't worth the headache of cajoling it into working

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clever:

my laptop can be used as a small frontend

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clever:

the lcd panel is cracked so i just removed it

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iamlindoro_:

My current master backend is a quad proc, 4 GB RAM :)... the money I spent on it was saved in the first few weeks of non-troubleshooting... when I realized I could actually WATCH my myth box instead of tweak it all the time :)

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clever:

tv out is tricky to get working(and high on brigthness)

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clever:

my master is a 1.6ghz

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clever:

and it cant play & record at once

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clever:

damn frame grabber

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clever:

right now im distcc'ing between between 1.7ghz 1ghz and 400mhz

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clever:

the 1.6ghz is a diff gcc version so cant be used

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bsdfox_:

you have a 400mhz frontend?

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bsdfox_:

I can't imagine that works very well

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clever:

it works fine

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leprasmurf:

hello all. I think I'm hitting a mental block on the configuration of a front end. Isn't the front-end suppose to have access to all the files on the backend?

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bsdfox_:

I'm not even satisfied w/ my 800mhz box

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clever:

menu's are somehow faster then the 1.6ghz's

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clever:

the frontend can stream files from the backend

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leprasmurf:

ok. I think I have it configured incorrectly then, because when I go to media library>videos and try to start a video, it looks locally for the file and is unable to find it

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leprasmurf:

I was beginning to think I needed to setup nfs on any frontend

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kormoc:

leprasmurf, for the plugins, yes, that's correct

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clever:

myth can only stream tv recordings

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clever:

the plugins cant use that

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dr_lulz:

hrm. i wonder if sshfs is fast enough for mythtvideo

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kormoc:

(yet)

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clever:

sshfs has crude security

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** kormoc blinks **

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clever:

if your not root you lack access to EVERYTHING

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** kormoc double blinks **

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kormoc:

if I'm not root, I'm my own user

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leprasmurf:

so if I want to store all my music/videos on a single backend and watch them on a frontend I need nfs?

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clever:

cant even stat the mount point

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kormoc:

leprasmurf, yes

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leprasmurf:

kormoc: thanks!

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kormoc:

clever, setup your permissions correctly

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clever:

nfs works great for me

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clever:

kormoc: i probly need to tell sshfs what uid to allow

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clever:

but without a uid map like nfs has it cant know who==who

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baxter_kylie:

Hi. So there isn't a schedules direct lineup that covers what comes to my home. I can find lineups that have all the channels I do have but most are misidentified in the channel number. Is there some way I can connect what I scan with what the channels schedules direct is offering?

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iamlindoro_:

go to www.zap2it.com, get the XMLIDs for all your channels, and put them in in mythweb

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baxter_kylie:

iamlindoro_: Hmm... I tried that... didn't seem to do anything.

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iamlindoro_:

Works fine here, and always has

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iamlindoro_:

Sure you put them in the right spot?

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baxter_kylie:

I believe so. Let me try it again. :)

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iamlindoro_:

And that you got the right numbers? Like, what I do/did is:

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iamlindoro_:

go to www.zap2it.com, put in your zip code, pull up a cable listing

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iamlindoro_:

Mouse over the network logo

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iamlindoro_:

The number after StnNum= should be the XMLID

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iamlindoro_:

in the link, that is

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iamlindoro_:

And, well, I don't have a myth box in front of me, but it's mythweb/settings/Channel Map

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iamlindoro_:

and I *believe* it's one of the first several options on the left

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iamlindoro_:

Then run a mythfilldatabase --refresh-all

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iamlindoro_:

And I think it should work ok

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iamlindoro_:

Oh, and of course make sure to click any "Update" button once you've edited all the ids...

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iamlindoro_:

Again, it's been a while and I don't have my box in front of me

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iamlindoro_:

That's assuming the SD and Z2It Station IDs still map to the same info, but I don't see why they shouldn't, since they still come from the same palce

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nasa:

Hi, Is there any way to turn off features in myth (like the zone thingy) when compiling from svn? I tried --disable-<plugin> with no success...

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fryfrog:

well, I just ordered an amd64 4200+ X2 socket 939 for my front end, i hope this brings it from *barely* able to (or just barely not able to) do h264/x264 :/ (going from amd64 3000+)

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