| Sunday, October 28th, 2007, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:13] | cesman: | no |
| [00:00:26] | cesman: | it should automatically pick up dvb tuners |
| [00:00:27] | hendrixski: | darn. because *nobody* would have figured that out from reading the lack of documentation on that wiki ... I'm still trying to figure out how it all works. and I want to contribute a little bit |
| [00:00:55] | GreyFoxx: | ummmm it's a very well known fact. Hardly a state secret |
| [00:01:01] | hendrixski: | fedder, you're not on UBuntu by any chance? they added a "control centre" that allows you to config a lot of extra stuff like that. |
| [00:01:13] | fedder: | Kaffeine works splendidly, no I'm running openSUSE 10.3 |
| [00:01:14] | GreyFoxx: | and anyone who looks at the code and sees the "*avcodec *avformat( would know :) |
| [00:02:01] | cesman: | fedder: have you read the MythTV docs? |
| [00:02:08] | hendrixski: | GreyFoxx, I've been trying to get into mythtv development for a few months, and I had no idea 'til today. |
| [00:02:23] | fedder: | cesman: I can't claim I've read everything... |
| [00:02:32] | hendrixski: | I didn't know that *avcodec was ffmpeg until I pulled down the source for it |
| [00:02:42] | cesman: | fedder: I'd suggest you do |
| [00:02:58] | fedder: | mythtv-setup did find the tuners, however, I'm not able to select Denmark in the list of possible countries when tuning... |
| [00:03:08] | cesman: | fedder: the card type should be "DVB DTV capture card (v3.x) |
| [00:03:10] | hendrixski: | GreyFoxx, do you know who's in charge of the wiki that can get my account to work? |
| [00:03:24] | GreyFoxx: | There is noone designated to run it |
| [00:03:47] | GreyFoxx: | you can email the -dev list and someone with access can likely get it going for you |
| [00:03:53] | GreyFoxx: | I don;t have access to that |
| [00:03:57] | hendrixski: | k |
| [00:04:53] | d00gster: | is there a guide I can use to get a matrox g550 with tv-out going for Mythtv? one that is recent maybe for debian. I compile my own kernel..... |
| [00:06:17] | venger: | rooaus, so the fresh rate is caclulated within the modeline numbers? how would i decipher the refresh rate from looking at just the modeline? for say: 1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1125 interlace +hsync +vsync |
| [00:06:34] | BULLE: | d00gster: is tv out supported for the g550 ? |
| [00:10:52] | fedder: | cesman: Well, now I think I can get it to scan manually |
| [00:11:14] | d00gster: | BULLE, yes it is |
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| [00:14:17] | bbeattie: | When I go to rip a dvd with svn head it tells me I do not have a dvd rip directory set, but have the temp directory set and the movie directory set and it worked a couple weeks ago before I updated head |
| [00:14:40] | BULLE: | d00gster: http://www.bglug.ca/matrox_tvout/ |
| [00:14:46] | BULLE: | d00gster: seems to be the best there is around |
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| [00:24:57] | [miles]: | morning |
| [00:25:10] | rooaus: | venger: There are some online timing calculators but they are for generating the modeline, you need to go the other way. |
| [00:25:12] | [miles]: | guys is Myth-TV frontend using Xine please? |
| [00:25:25] | BULLE: | [miles]: no, not unless you configure it to use xine |
| [00:25:30] | [miles]: | hi BULLE |
| [00:25:38] | [miles]: | BULLE, and that would be configured how? |
| [00:25:51] | [miles]: | btw, I'm running the SVN version |
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| [00:26:48] | directhex: | [miles], using xine for what? |
| [00:27:26] | directhex: | [miles], for playing back recordings, the internal mythtv player code is used (based on ffmpeg). for files played in mythvideo, it depends on your config (some distros default to mplayer or something, you can use internal if you prefer) |
| [00:27:53] | ** BULLE thinks directhex summed it upp in a great way ** | |
| [00:28:19] | ** [miles] thinks directhex never sleeps ;) and is in every channel I go in :D ** | |
| [00:29:12] | [miles]: | directhex, ok I explain.. as you may remember, I've been using Kaffeine for my DVB-S ... the deinterlace etc quality is perfect.. however I can't seem to get the same quality out of myth .... |
| [00:29:54] | [miles]: | I know that Kaffeine is using Xine , so if I can somehow configure myth to use it also, I would assume I can replicate the deinterlace options |
| [00:30:02] | ** rooaus suggests directhex is a bot :) ** | |
| [00:30:14] | directhex: | i'm off to bed now, it's too damn late |
| [00:30:32] | rooaus: | recharge you battery heh? |
| [00:30:34] | hendrixski: | GreyFoxx, the confirmation email finally came as I was writing to the list :-) |
| [00:30:46] | [miles]: | lol |
| [00:30:48] | ** hendrixski goes to work on the ffmpeg and internal player articles :-) ** | |
| [00:31:07] | [miles]: | directhex, it's 02:32AM here in Barcelona |
| [00:31:20] | [miles]: | I think I'll be lucky if I see my bed before 6am |
| [00:31:36] | [miles]: | BULLE, can you help at all please? |
| [00:32:23] | BULLE: | [miles]: no not realy, i mean, you are using svn version, so best bet is to just wait a day or so, and see if it gets fixed, if not, report a bug, and wait |
| [00:32:27] | BULLE: | [miles]: im not a developer |
| [00:32:48] | [miles]: | ok np, thanks anyway |
| [00:32:56] | [miles]: | I'll trundle off to #mythtv |
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| [00:41:53] | ** ectospasm Cry [Rank 1 Mix] – Trancendence: The First Wave – System F (x«amarok) ** | |
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| [01:08:27] | fryfrog: | running the old gui dist-upgrade on my ubuntu boxens! |
| [01:12:40] | am_dragon: | let me know how that works fryfrog |
| [01:13:38] | am_dragon: | Ive got 7.04 on my laptop and i'm afraid to run the upgrade. |
| [01:18:31] | fryfrog: | hehe |
| [01:18:54] | fryfrog: | last time i did my 6.10 -> 7.04 on lappy first, but this time my lappy was a clean install of 7.10 :( |
| [01:19:19] | J-e-f-f-A-2: | J-e-f-f-A |
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| [01:26:28] | Gurft: | quick question, is there a way to change the displayed name for a recording? |
| [01:26:49] | Gurft: | Like I have a few shows that only are listed by the show name, not the episode title, I'd like to change it. |
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| [01:33:23] | tjcarter: | does anybody know why mythfrontend would default(!) to a 16:9 stretch on a Mac when you haven't told it to do that in any settings, or how to stop it from doing that? |
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| [01:34:33] | tjcarter: | We don't have control of the aspect on a Mac, so it probably shouldn't default to something weird =p |
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| [01:46:31] | Servo888: | All right just setup Mythtv with schedules direct... Everything seems fine except that many channels show "Adding" (inside the tiny pop up window that pops up when your changing channels) instead of the channel name / number. |
| [01:47:05] | rooaus: | Anyone have an email to users moderated due to size (52126 bytes)? How long did it take to get approved? |
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| [02:32:31] | eidolon: | hi folks, if i have some avi files and i want to view them on my mythtv box, what directory should i put them in? |
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| [03:43:52] | kavorka^: | we have just moved forward one hour due to daylight savings...my backend time is correct howvever my tv-guide is now off by one hour...does anyone know how to correct this? |
| [03:46:49] | HReadren: | what country are you in kavorka? |
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| [03:47:54] | kavorka^: | australia |
| [03:48:16] | Tanthrix: | You've restarted the backend right? |
| [03:48:28] | kavorka^: | Tanthrix, no i havent |
| [03:48:34] | kavorka^: | good idea ill try now |
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| [03:56:46] | fryfrog: | all 8 partitions are set to type "fd" and I can use mdadm to --assemble them no problem |
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| [04:05:14] | rooaus: | kavorka^: There is a setting in mythtv-setup for xmltv timezone, what do you have it set to? Where are you getting your guide data from? |
| [04:06:27] | mchou: | This is a test of the emergency broadcast system |
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| [04:15:54] | Kernel: | hello all. ive been using my pvr-150 card for a while now and today i installed myth again and set my card all up...but when i goto watch tv all i get is a green and red screen.....when i try to watch tv like i normaly do(mplayer /dev/video0) i get a green red screen..but with sound...what did mythtv do to my card?. |
| [04:16:07] | rooaus: | hadees: There may be a solution for you already in Myth, have you considered the network control stuff? ie telnet. |
| [04:17:25] | Kernel: | if a picture of the green/red screen would i can post one. |
| [04:17:56] | Kernel: | but ive been using this card with out any issues and now after setting up mythtv...my card doesnt work |
| [04:19:03] | rooaus: | Kernel: Can you say with certainty that you did not upgrade the kernel, card firmware or anything else when you reinstalled myth. I suspect that is where the problem is. |
| [04:20:04] | hadees: | rooaus, hmm so draw an entire new menu just for the lcd? |
| [04:20:15] | Kernel: | rooaus: i installed this distro a few weeks ago(mandriva 2008) and have been using the ivtv drivers...i just havent had a achane to install myth tv till now. so ive been watching tv with mplayer...no problems |
| [04:20:38] | hadees: | i mean as a separate app, interesting idea |
| [04:20:40] | Kernel: | *chance |
| [04:21:07] | hadees: | although i was hoping for the music vizs to show up on it |
| [04:21:18] | Kernel: | as soon as i ran mythfrontend ..went in and set up the settings for my card....it stopped working. |
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| [04:23:19] | rooaus: | Kernel: That is interesting then, some people say "I installed myth and it broke my system", but they forget to say they also upgraded the kernel at the same time etc. :) |
| [04:23:52] | Kernel: | haha |
| [04:24:34] | Kernel: | yea no...im gonna play with the settings..if i cant get it to work....how can i undo what mythtv did?..is there configs i can erase?...or ... |
| [04:24:38] | clever: | rooaus: one person i know had a problem with a program of mine(that ran in mirc) |
| [04:24:49] | clever: | rooaus: i cant fix it because they deleted the entire mirc folder and started over |
| [04:24:57] | clever: | no trace left of what went wrong |
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| [04:25:58] | rooaus: | kernel: Have you done a cold boot, then tried mplayer? |
| [04:26:22] | dns: | my epg is messed up after we switched to daylight savings time, how do i clear out the epg and start again? |
| [04:27:28] | adante: | dns: i usually run mysql client and 'delete from program;' |
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| [04:28:06] | Kernel: | rooaus: not yet...but i have noticed in the past...if i reboot then use mplayer to play...its not the same as if i run myth THEN mplayer. |
| [04:28:43] | rooaus: | Kernel: Does the pvr150 need firmware? Someone mentioned the other day that the cards need cold boot to reload the firmware, not sure if that is one of the cards though. |
| [04:28:49] | Kernel: | also a quick poll what does everyone use?... the rtjpg or mpeg? |
| [04:29:09] | Kernel: | does one offer higher quality?. |
| [04:29:12] | rooaus: | DVB-T here, so mpeg2 over the air. |
| [04:29:30] | Kernel: | ah. i only have rtjpg or mpeg for options. |
| [04:29:37] | clever: | Kernel: i use mpeg4 |
| [04:29:53] | clever: | mpeg4 is better on space(1gig/hour) |
| [04:30:03] | clever: | rtjpeg is better on the cpu(several gig/hour) |
| [04:30:23] | clever: | rtjpeg is allmost raw video(bmp frames:P) |
| [04:30:39] | rooaus: | big difference is CPU load I believe and compression ratio, you need to work out waht is more important in your setup. Basically what clever has said :) |
| [04:31:11] | Kernel: | i prefer quality over all |
| [04:31:20] | clever: | im tight on disk space so im using mpeg4 |
| [04:31:24] | Kernel: | ah |
| [04:31:31] | clever: | but sometimes thats too high of a cpu usage and the audio buffers overflow |
| [04:31:53] | clever: | also the system can bearly play & encode to mpeg4 |
| [04:31:59] | Kernel: | lol |
| [04:32:12] | clever: | if i try that i cause alot more audio overflow problems(damaging the recordings that are in progress) |
| [04:32:26] | clever: | it can stream to another frontend without a problem |
| [04:32:27] | Kernel: | i just got a dell server mobo from my old man...thinking of making a new box just for myth |
| [04:32:36] | clever: | but the odd thing is |
| [04:32:38] | Kernel: | right now i have my tv card in my main system |
| [04:32:45] | clever: | i cant stream the file thats recording very well |
| [04:32:50] | clever: | it skips alot more |
| [04:32:53] | rooaus: | yeah rtjpeg is a series of frames compressed as jpegs (AIUI), there is no inter frame dependency so the compression ratio is lower. |
| [04:33:17] | clever: | ahhh that makes it very horid |
| [04:33:30] | clever: | even if 90% of the frame didnt change it still uses a full frame of space |
| [04:33:35] | Kernel: | ah ok. from playing around it seemed to be better quality...but i dont know too much about video compressoin and bitrates and all that |
| [04:33:53] | clever: | ive edited my low quality transcoding profile |
| [04:33:58] | dns: | hmm i still have problems, the clock says 3:00 but the programs are an hour off, it is fine using a windows program, does myth also make changes with the epg timezone? |
| [04:33:59] | clever: | and im now getting about 500mb/hour |
| [04:34:18] | clever: | but it takes 3 times the file size to transcode(1 hour file takes 3 hours to convert on 500mhz) |
| [04:34:19] | Kernel: | damn?...and thats watchable? |
| [04:34:32] | clever: | the compression problems are more noticable |
| [04:34:42] | clever: | but with plain tv out you dont notice them as much |
| [04:34:51] | mchou: | sigh.... |
| [04:35:07] | clever: | but one of my frontends is a crt about 1–2 feet from my face |
| [04:35:20] | clever: | which lets you see nearly every pixel:P |
| [04:35:27] | Kernel: | lol |
| [04:35:52] | clever: | even on 'normal' quality i can see compression problems with that one |
| [04:36:12] | Kernel: | i saw a commercial the other day...said by 2009 it will be illegal to offer normal cable?....whats that all about? |
| [04:36:26] | mchou: | Kernel: yup |
| [04:36:32] | Kernel: | crazyness. |
| [04:36:32] | mchou: | going all digital |
| [04:36:54] | mchou: | no more analog (unless you use a set top box) |
| [04:37:14] | Kernel: | hows myth and digitaltv?... |
| [04:37:18] | clever: | right now we have 3 digital boxes here |
| [04:37:19] | mchou: | it's generally recognized as a good thing(TM) |
| [04:37:24] | clever: | 1 comes with the bill |
| [04:37:28] | clever: | 1 we own |
| [04:37:31] | clever: | and 1 we rent |
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| [04:37:45] | clever: | we are planing on returning the rented one to lower the bill |
| [04:37:52] | Kernel: | ahh |
| [04:37:54] | clever: | but we cant realy get a box with firewire without paying |
| [04:37:58] | mchou: | clever: how $/box? |
| [04:38:00] | Kernel: | what provider are you on? |
| [04:38:03] | clever: | the firewire box costs extra |
| [04:38:05] | clever: | rogers digital cable |
| [04:38:08] | Kernel: | only one in my area is comcast. |
| [04:38:29] | clever: | we cant turn in the box we own and save because we dont pay for it(allready paid off) |
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| [04:38:38] | mchou: | clever: how $/box? |
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| [04:38:47] | clever: | and if we switch the box thats built into the channel price it will probly still be an increase |
| [04:38:54] | clever: | and i forget how much the bill is |
| [04:39:39] | clever: | also its a special plan with mostly english channels only |
| [04:39:45] | clever: | which they no longer give out |
| [04:39:48] | mchou: | clever: you can always use a QAM card w/ no premiums :) |
| [04:40:01] | clever: | if we make any change in the channel layout we loose the special price |
| [04:40:15] | clever: | mchou: that wont get the encrypted channels though |
| [04:40:18] | mchou: | clever: you have a la carte? |
| [04:40:35] | clever: | ? |
| [04:40:38] | mchou: | clever: that what I said, no premium channels :) |
| [04:40:48] | clever: | we have several digital channels |
| [04:40:55] | clever: | no idea what is encrypted though |
| [04:40:56] | mchou: | clever: select individual channels |
| [04:42:15] | mchou: | anyway, they shouldn't charge you much more than $5 or so per box |
| [04:42:38] | ** clever goes to find a bill ** | |
| [04:42:39] | mchou: | if they charge more than that they're committing robbery |
| [04:43:09] | clever: | 1 box is basicaly free with the service |
| [04:43:10] | mchou: | clever: damn, who uses paper bills anymore, look it up on line dude |
| [04:43:15] | clever: | and the 2nd we own |
| [04:43:22] | clever: | so they are only charging us for 1 box realy |
| [04:43:56] | clever: | 83$/month |
| [04:44:04] | mchou: | so I dont think you will save much by getting rid of 1 box |
| [04:44:21] | mchou: | dude, 83 bux is way too steep |
| [04:44:33] | clever: | 25$ for basic cable |
| [04:44:39] | clever: | 6$ for the extra outlet fee |
| [04:44:46] | clever: | 10$ for the cable plus select |
| [04:44:49] | mchou: | extra outlet? |
| [04:44:53] | clever: | 42$ for all english themes |
| [04:45:01] | mchou: | wtf is extra outlet? |
| [04:45:03] | clever: | 3$ for digital terminal rental |
| [04:45:50] | mchou: | dude, english themes is what's jacking up you bill |
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| [04:46:01] | mchou: | your* |
| [04:46:19] | mchou: | instead of paying $42 pay netflix |
| [04:46:32] | mchou: | better return on your money |
| [04:46:33] | clever: | from what my dad says we cant add another channel without getting a big increase in the bill |
| [04:46:44] | clever: | i think the price for the english channels has gone up |
| [04:46:52] | clever: | but we are locked in at the special plan from years ago |
| [04:46:53] | mchou: | clever: so drop it |
| [04:47:04] | mchou: | locked in?? |
| [04:47:12] | mchou: | there is no lock in with cable |
| [04:47:24] | clever: | thats what it sounds like |
| [04:47:29] | mchou: | if they do that they violating FCC rules |
| [04:47:41] | clever: | dad was saying something about if we remove channels the bill would go up |
| [04:47:53] | clever: | because we are changing the plan and loosing the special deal |
| [04:47:57] | mchou: | lol |
| [04:48:11] | mchou: | that's cause your dad wants some channel |
| [04:48:25] | mchou: | probably some stupid dports channel |
| [04:48:31] | mchou: | sports* |
| [04:48:32] | clever: | he isnt realy into sports |
| [04:48:47] | clever: | but he's said several times that he would never get off the tv if he has history |
| [04:49:08] | mchou: | they cant jack up your rates for dropping "english themes" |
| [04:49:30] | clever: | english themes is a massive package |
| [04:49:35] | clever: | of nearly all the english channels |
| [04:49:49] | mchou: | it's all itemized per fcc rules |
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| [04:50:20] | mchou: | so dropping any item means you pay less by that itemized amt. |
| [04:50:45] | venger: | I see how I can get modeline data from ESID for my TV, but where do I start if I want to compensate for overscan by editing this modeline data? |
| [04:50:53] | mchou: | clever: I suggest you call the cableco and find out what the deal is |
| [04:51:15] | mchou: | clever: independently |
| [04:52:10] | mchou: | clever: your dad is just using that line as a ruse |
| [04:52:19] | clever: | lol |
| [04:52:57] | mchou: | cause he doesnt want to drop "english themes," whatever that is |
| [04:53:57] | clever: | it sounds like its a old deal of alot of channels |
| [04:53:58] | mchou: | even though cable may be a monopoly, it's a REGULATED monopoly |
| [04:54:12] | clever: | we cant drop a few channels from the package |
| [04:54:17] | mchou: | nope |
| [04:54:26] | clever: | but we could get smaller packages which cover similar channels |
| [04:54:31] | mchou: | you thake the whole package or take none |
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| [04:54:37] | mchou: | take* |
| [04:54:38] | clever: | but those smaller packages may cost more in total |
| [04:54:47] | mchou: | clever: exactly |
| [04:54:52] | clever: | also it sounds like the package is no longer available |
| [04:54:56] | clever: | so if we change and dont like it |
| [04:54:58] | clever: | we cant go back |
| [04:55:01] | mchou: | yup |
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| [04:55:22] | mchou: | you saying the same thing I was saying :) |
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| [04:55:46] | mchou: | your dad has some favorite channels in the "english themes" |
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| [04:55:56] | clever: | some of them i watch also |
| [04:56:07] | mchou: | and he doesnt want to slice and dice it using some other way :) |
| [04:56:11] | clever: | and i can easily get a list of every channel i use(and how much) from mythweb |
| [04:56:41] | mchou: | clever: seriously, there is no need. Netflix will be much cheaper than $43/mo |
| [04:57:09] | clever: | can you get recent episodes of stuff like house or stargate from that though? |
| [04:57:32] | mchou: | almost. one season behind |
| [04:57:33] | clever: | i thought netflix was just for movies and large things |
| [04:57:38] | mchou: | nope |
| [04:57:44] | clever: | ahh |
| [04:57:59] | mchou: | anything that comes out on dvd will be on netflix |
| [04:58:15] | mchou: | that includes TV shows these days |
| [04:58:16] | clever: | i know some people online who torrent stuff like house(they arent even in north america) |
| [04:58:22] | clever: | getting it within hours of it airing |
| [04:58:28] | mchou: | I love house |
| [04:58:40] | mchou: | it's a smartly written show |
| [04:58:45] | clever: | but we cant talk of torrents in this channel |
| [04:58:49] | clever: | its a 'bad' word:P |
| [04:58:50] | mchou: | but dexter is good too |
| [04:59:04] | mchou: | we can talk show in this channel |
| [04:59:08] | mchou: | shows* |
| [04:59:10] | clever: | seen http://youtube.com/watch?v=4NDcyQoQ4sY ? |
| [05:00:24] | mchou: | hmm, I dont know the reference to pinky & brain |
| [05:00:31] | mchou: | never seen that b4 |
| [05:00:59] | clever: | but one of them is insane:P |
| [05:01:23] | mchou: | clever: no, I'm serious. What is pinky and brain? |
| [05:01:31] | mchou: | some cartoon apparently |
| [05:01:38] | mchou: | I've never seen that |
| [05:01:40] | clever: | yeah |
| [05:01:46] | clever: | what country are you in:P |
| [05:01:52] | clever: | (i grew up watching it) |
| [05:01:56] | mchou: | good ole US of A |
| [05:02:07] | clever: | lol |
| [05:02:13] | clever: | im up in canada |
| [05:02:25] | mchou: | well, my parents threw the TV out of the house |
| [05:02:47] | mchou: | they didnt get a TV until all of us kids went to college |
| [05:02:59] | clever: | lol |
| [05:03:10] | mchou: | I'm not joking |
| [05:03:25] | clever: | I am 20.602325 years old. (I'll be 21 in 20wks 5days 23hrs 57mins 58secs.) |
| [05:03:32] | mchou: | come back home xmas of freshman year, "what's this?" |
| [05:03:59] | clever: | one of my first laptops was a b&w laptop |
| [05:04:12] | clever: | back then color laptops where expensive:P |
| [05:04:29] | mchou: | dude, I'm way b4 your time |
| [05:04:45] | clever: | i still have a pair of c64's |
| [05:04:49] | mchou: | I had a compaq "luggable" |
| [05:04:55] | clever: | and i think i saw a vic20 in the attick yesterday |
| [05:06:03] | dns: | does anyone use the muti-rec branch |
| [05:06:18] | clever: | i think GreyFoxx does |
| [05:06:29] | mchou: | dns: why would anyone use that? you wont get sound :) |
| [05:07:24] | dns: | well in australia they are broadcasting 2 channels in the same mutex |
| [05:07:41] | mchou: | dns: you missed the joke |
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| [05:07:58] | mchou: | dns: they do that in US and elsewhere too |
| [05:09:00] | dns: | i know, the bbc has 6 channels on 2 frequencies |
| [05:09:07] | mchou: | clever: they they have a quebequois theme over where you live? |
| [05:09:21] | clever: | im not in quebec |
| [05:09:27] | clever: | but i can see quebec out my north facing windows |
| [05:09:28] | mchou: | s/^they/do |
| [05:09:50] | mchou: | mchou: english theme sounds a bit redundant |
| [05:10:04] | mchou: | unlessthey have some quebequois channels |
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| [05:11:53] | mchou: | or spanish channels |
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| [05:28:00] | adante: | you can't queue things for transcode from mythweb can you? |
| [05:29:16] | mchou: | check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Xt-XeWnHM |
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| [06:35:43] | synfx: | anyone around with experience with widescreen lcd tvs and getting xorg to run at their native resolution? |
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| [06:36:16] | synfx: | 32" lcd has native res of 1366x768, can't seem to give it more than 1280x720 |
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| [06:37:25] | cesman: | synfx: what video chipset are you using? |
| [06:38:03] | synfx: | geforce 7050 on nforce 630a. onboard video on an asus m2n-vm dvi |
| [06:38:28] | cesman: | which version of the nvidia drivers? |
| [06:40:45] | synfx: | 100.14.19 |
| [06:41:12] | cesman: | I couldn't get 720P with newer nvidia drivers until I added http://pastebin.com/d4678431d to Device section of xorg.conf |
| [06:41:29] | cesman: | I'm running it my HD at 1366x768 |
| [06:44:17] | rooaus: | synfx: Are you using the VGA or HDMI? What refresh rate you trying to use? |
| [06:44:50] | synfx: | rooaus: hdmi using a dvi-hdmi cable |
| [06:44:57] | rooaus: | Ah, I see you said DVI :) |
| [06:46:54] | rooaus: | Oh, many HDMI receivers don't support the non standard HDMI modes. I tried with my Sony LCD to get 1366x768 over the HDMI, escalated it as far as I could with Sony Australia and they just said can't be done. |
| [06:47:35] | rooaus: | Does the TV have a VGA connection? NTSC or PAL? |
| [06:48:01] | synfx: | has hdmi, vga, component, composite |
| [06:48:26] | rooaus: | PAL or NTSC? |
| [06:48:40] | synfx: | pal |
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| [06:48:56] | synfx: | (i'm in australia) |
| [06:49:12] | rooaus: | Hey, so am I :) |
| [06:49:18] | synfx: | the thing's manual lists vga timings. 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 |
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| [06:50:06] | synfx: | i had the impression getting this working was a matter of ignoring what the tv says and giving it 1366 res anyway, through modelines and xorg options like in that pastebin |
| [06:50:35] | synfx: | you reckon it's just not physically capable of displaying its native res through inputs? :( |
| [06:51:31] | rooaus: | I could get my TV to sync at 1360x768 over the VGA with a custom modeline, the only problem was it was at 60Hz. This led to "stuttering" on pans like the news ticker etc. Couldn't get it to sync at 50Hz. |
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| [06:52:38] | synfx: | hm |
| [06:52:44] | synfx: | i'd settle for using vga if i had to |
| [06:52:53] | synfx: | i bought this particular board for the onboard dvi though :( |
| [06:52:55] | rooaus: | The TV is not the latest generation panel (>1 year old) so things may have changed since then. |
| [06:54:10] | rooaus: | You can get a DVI->VGA converter for a couple of $, and you never know, your brand/model may work. |
| [06:54:23] | synfx: | well it's got vga onboard too |
| [06:54:30] | rooaus: | cool. |
| [06:54:37] | synfx: | yeah, it's a great board |
| [06:56:18] | rooaus: | If you do try that, I had to add an option to the NVidia 8*** driver to allow non 60Hz videos modes, seems some early TDMS receviers would crap themselves with non 60Hz timings. May not be needed in recent driver, let me check... |
| [06:59:02] | rooaus: | Yep, seems it is still used. It was even is cesman's pastebin :) |
| [07:03:31] | synfx: | well |
| [07:03:37] | synfx: | i've actually been trying this pretty much all day |
| [07:03:55] | synfx: | the best i can do is display 1280x720, and then scroll around a 1360x768 area within that |
| [07:04:12] | rooaus: | synfx: If you have a Windows box powerstrip can be useful. |
| [07:04:37] | synfx: | heh |
| [07:05:26] | synfx: | sitting here on an xp laptop. powerstrip didn't seem to do what i figured it was meant to |
| [07:05:40] | synfx: | like can't detect the monitor |
| [07:05:56] | rooaus: | The other thing I found very useful is turning on Xserver verbose log level 6, it will tell you what it is trying and why it has discarded some modes etc. |
| [07:07:29] | rooaus: | powerstrip is only really useful in IMHO if it is run with the same video card, what TV do you have? There are some custom modelines on the wiki, maybe someone is using the same TV. |
| [07:08:17] | synfx: | soniq qv321lh |
| [07:08:24] | synfx: | that and "linux" in google return nothing |
| [07:08:41] | synfx: | all i know is it uses a samsung panel, so i've tried every modeline i could find for 32" samsungs |
| [07:08:46] | rooaus: | You bought it from JB? |
| [07:08:50] | synfx: | yep |
| [07:09:59] | rooaus: | yeah, I heard they were samsung panels as well. The Sony sets also use samsung panels, or at least they used to, haven't checked out the latest ones. |
| [07:10:42] | synfx: | (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1368x768"; removing. |
| [07:10:42] | synfx: | (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1280x768@60"; removing. |
| [07:10:42] | synfx: | (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: |
| [07:10:42] | synfx: | (II) NVIDIA(0): "1280x720@60" |
| [07:10:42] | synfx: | (II) NVIDIA(0): "800x600@60" |
| [07:10:43] | synfx: | (II) NVIDIA(0): "800x600@56" |
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| [07:12:06] | synfx: | (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-0 |
| [07:12:24] | synfx: | this screen has no EDID info :/ |
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| [07:16:23] | rooaus: | I tried to get Sony Australia to escalate it to Japan but they wouldn't, so I have just been using 1280x768p over hdmi. |
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| [07:18:20] | rooaus: | I can post a 1360x768 modeline that I think is the one I used, but as I said it is 60Hz. |
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| [07:20:05] | synfx: | http://www.soniqav.com/Qvision.php?mdm=84d73d . . . 9ed3f6931ba1 |
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| [07:23:08] | synfx: | Performing real mode VBE call |
| [07:23:08] | synfx: | Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x1 cx=0x0 |
| [07:23:08] | synfx: | Function supported |
| [07:23:08] | synfx: | Call failed |
| [07:23:08] | synfx: | The EDID data should not be trusted as the VBE call failed |
| [07:23:09] | synfx: | Error: output block unchanged |
| [07:23:28] | synfx: | ^ output of get-edid |
| [07:23:37] | synfx: | i can't tell anything about this screen from the computer |
| [07:25:17] | Kernel: | anyone know anyinfo about the mpeg-4 transcoder?. the options that only say may cause severe consiquences or w/e...what are the optiumum settings?. i cant seem to find to much info |
| [07:26:07] | synfx: | so basically i need to know if it can display hdmi input in modes other than 576p, 720p, 1080i |
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| [07:27:52] | rooaus: | Do you get any EDID from the VGA? May be the later sets support 50Hz now. |
| [07:28:25] | synfx: | it was using vga when i did get-edid |
| [07:28:30] | synfx: | it seems to detect as a generic CRT |
| [07:28:40] | rooaus: | oh, that sucks :( |
| [07:28:59] | synfx: | yup. no edid |
| [07:29:16] | synfx: | so far as i know anyhow |
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| [07:31:07] | synfx: | i'll grab a proper EDID tool for windows and try again |
| [07:31:41] | rooaus: | g'luck |
| [07:35:37] | synfx: | my laptop's intel gfx seem t obe confusing it |
| [07:35:43] | synfx: | i'll try the vista box again :/ |
| [07:37:41] | synfx: | if i get no brilliant ideas by the time the sun's gone down i'll just use 720p |
| [07:37:45] | synfx: | and be happy i have that >_< |
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| [07:39:15] | rooaus: | synfx: Read up on the Intel Graphics you have, I have heard some only support the video modes in it's rom. |
| [07:39:50] | synfx: | yep i've come up against it before |
| [07:40:39] | synfx: | that's the only way in which my centrino laptop wasn't better than all my friends' non-centrinos when we all bought one for uni :| |
| [07:45:00] | synfx: | bleh |
| [07:47:49] | ** lyricnz has suxor ATI on his lappie ** | |
| [07:48:40] | synfx: | i quite like having intel gfx on the laptop |
| [07:48:55] | synfx: | i can use my laptop in my lap in summer :P |
| [07:49:14] | rooaus: | I got ATI as well, sucks big ones. |
| [07:49:18] | mchou: | synfx: so you're not a fan of nvidia on lappy then, I take it? |
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| [07:50:35] | lyricnz: | nvidia would be fine, at least their drivers don't suck |
| [07:51:09] | mchou: | lyricnz: I've never used ati (except one) |
| [07:51:29] | lyricnz: | ati drivers suck. slightly less than in the past, but still sucky. |
| [07:51:45] | mchou: | I know their drivers suck, but didnt AMD open them up? |
| [07:52:30] | mchou: | ati sw is an oxymoron |
| [07:52:54] | mchou: | the last ati I used was an AIW |
| [07:53:07] | synfx: | my last was an 8500 |
| [07:53:14] | mchou: | I couldn't believe they wrote their own TV app |
| [07:53:23] | mchou: | in windows |
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| [07:53:30] | mchou: | crash city |
| [07:53:37] | synfx: | intel on laptop since, current gaming box has a geforce 8600 :) |
| [07:54:09] | mchou: | AIW was a nightmare |
| [07:54:32] | mchou: | I couldnt believe they had balls to put that crap on the market |
| [07:54:49] | lyricnz: | Unfortunately, when I was buy this lappie, the nvidia was $500 more expensive than the ATI. fsck dell too. |
| [07:55:00] | mchou: | holy shit |
| [07:55:07] | lyricnz: | And my iMac will have an ATI too, I guess. At least the macbook pro has nv. |
| [07:55:09] | mchou: | $500 more expensive? |
| [07:55:25] | lyricnz: | This was a few years ago, and you know how Dells prices are all over the show. |
| [07:55:29] | clever: | 2007-10–28 02:48:34.622 transcode: Transcode Errored: Daily Planet: Low Quality (exit status 0, job status was "Running") |
| [07:55:32] | clever: | 2007-10–28 02:48:34.623 JobQueue: Transcode Errored: Daily Planet: Low Quality (exit status 0, job status was "Running") |
| [07:55:38] | lyricnz: | It was like some low-end ATI crapola, or some pretty decent nvidia. |
| [07:55:42] | mchou: | lyricnz: $500 means it's not in stock :) |
| [07:55:42] | clever: | dont see anything that i think could have crashed it |
| [07:55:47] | lyricnz: | Hard to justify the extra $$ for a work machine :) |
| [07:56:10] | mchou: | lyricnz: that's dell's nice way of telling ya "we dont have it" |
| [07:56:20] | lyricnz: | Yeah, fskc dell :) |
| [07:56:33] | lyricnz: | I just ordered a new 24" iMac and a macbook pro :) |
| [07:56:41] | mchou: | lol |
| [07:57:31] | lyricnz: | Which just leaves my firewall, mythbackend/file-server and a myth frontend as linux, and my kids PC as windows. |
| [07:57:41] | mchou: | anyway, dell's laptops are nothing to write home about. Most of them are lead bricks |
| [07:58:17] | lyricnz: | Yeah, it's heavy, and poorly made 17". At least it's 1920x1200, which is nice for myth/hd stuff. |
| [07:58:21] | marmoset: | I'm looking at getting a second hd tuner source, should I go for pchdtv or hd homerun or something else? |
| [07:58:23] | mchou: | back in the day Toshiba Porteges were the ones to get |
| [07:58:35] | clever: | mchou: my old dell laptop has a crappy design for the hinge in the lcd panel |
| [07:58:42] | mchou: | very skinny |
| [07:58:50] | clever: | mchou: the metal split in 2(along the screw hole) multiple times |
| [07:58:58] | mchou: | clever: ouch |
| [07:59:00] | clever: | we got a new panel and it just happened again |
| [07:59:08] | synfx: | clever: what model? mine's slowly breaking itself too |
| [07:59:10] | mchou: | clever: nasty |
| [07:59:12] | clever: | c600 i think |
| [07:59:19] | clever: | once the hinge breaks |
| [07:59:25] | clever: | it pivots at the wrong point |
| [07:59:35] | clever: | causing it to damage the plastic casing every time you move it |
| [07:59:48] | mchou: | would it even work once the hing breaks? |
| [07:59:52] | clever: | and the latch wont lign up right |
| [07:59:54] | mchou: | hinge* |
| [07:59:58] | clever: | the hinge is seperate from the connector |
| [08:00:19] | clever: | once the hinge on 1 side is broken(same side allways breaks) |
| [08:00:24] | clever: | that side is very loose |
| [08:00:34] | clever: | and the other isnt stiff enough to hold the screen up by itself |
| [08:00:40] | clever: | so the whole panel becomes floppy |
| [08:01:19] | clever: | to keep from damaging the ribon cable when the panel falls off i left the screws out |
| [08:01:52] | clever: | which one night when having a fight with an idiot on irc led to the screen falling off |
| [08:02:00] | clever: | and i wound up punching the screen |
| [08:02:03] | clever: | (cracking the panel) |
| [08:02:14] | mchou: | haha!! serves you right for jousting on irc! |
| [08:02:25] | clever: | now half the laptop is sitting on a shelf in the furnace room |
| [08:02:35] | clever: | im ssh'ed into it and using the same irc client |
| [08:02:46] | lyricnz: | marmoset: don't buy a Dvico Dual Digital 4 :) |
| [08:02:51] | synfx: | rooaus & cesman, thanks hugely for the time/knowledge |
| [08:02:59] | clever: | it has tvout but the brightness is way too high |
| [08:03:04] | marmoset: | lyricnz: ok, I'll put that on the blacklist ;) |
| [08:03:05] | clever: | and its unstable to start |
| [08:03:14] | clever: | but it was my main frontend for mythtv |
| [08:03:25] | mchou: | lyricnz: you serious? dvico has that product? |
| [08:03:33] | clever: | when i got a new hinge for it |
| [08:03:40] | clever: | i got an entire lcd panel |
| [08:03:44] | synfx: | i've bought an avertv volar usb thing for my mythtv setup |
| [08:03:52] | clever: | and i just moved a few parts over(keeping my old lcd display) |
| [08:03:58] | lyricnz: | It's a dual-tuner DVB card. The DD1–2 was fine, worked perfectly. The DD4 is completely new and unsupported chipsets. |
| [08:04:04] | clever: | so i still have a 'new' lcd panel |
| [08:04:18] | lyricnz: | They've just got it working, but it's still flakey. Especially in Australia, for whatever reason. |
| [08:04:18] | clever: | i pluged it in a few days ago but the image is a tad scrambled |
| [08:04:29] | clever: | stripes of colors on 1 side |
| [08:04:36] | ** lyricnz has video corruption since "yum update" to fglrx 8.42. Oh yay. ** | |
| [08:04:43] | clever: | and a column of ]'s on the far left |
| [08:05:04] | clever: | im guessing the ]'s are part of the status msgs of the bootup( [ ok ] ) |
| [08:05:38] | clever: | havent rebooted yet |
| [08:05:49] | clever: | could simply need to bootup with the panel attached |
| [08:06:03] | clever: | but that still wont fix the hinge |
| [08:06:04] | marmoset: | I can't bear to give up my inspiron 8200, I can get whatever laptop I want paid for by work, but I can't find anything I'd rather have |
| [08:07:23] | mchou: | marmoset: just get an iPhone and be done w/it :) |
| [08:07:29] | marmoset: | heh |
| [08:07:31] | marmoset: | no thanks ;) |
| [08:07:52] | ** marmoset still happy with his treo 600 somehow ** | |
| [08:07:58] | mchou: | iphone much more useful than lappy |
| [08:08:15] | lyricnz: | The only good thing about my ispiron 9300 is the 1920x1200 17" screen |
| [08:08:26] | lyricnz: | Which is... also the worst thing about to (too big, sucks for travel) |
| [08:08:34] | marmoset: | lyricnz: yeah, that's the main thing, this one is 1600x1200 15" screen |
| [08:08:53] | lyricnz: | I wonder what the new mac will have, both of 'em |
| [08:09:09] | mchou: | marmoset: lol. need a magnifying glass to read anything? |
| [08:09:14] | clever: | my dads pda(treo 650) can ssh into my linux pc |
| [08:09:27] | marmoset: | clever: yeah, I've done a lot of work on my treo |
| [08:09:34] | clever: | so i can access some of mythtv even on the road |
| [08:09:50] | clever: | ive also manages to get a 'dialup' connection over bluetooth |
| [08:09:55] | marmoset: | ya |
| [08:09:58] | clever: | so the phone leeched off the dsl line |
| [08:10:04] | clever: | so i got 'free' internet on the phone |
| [08:10:38] | clever: | (dsl is a flat rate so adding more devices wont increase price) |
| [08:13:32] | marmoset: | I was going to just buy a pchdtv 5500, but a hdhomerun is interesting since it's dual tuner |
| [08:13:44] | marmoset: | but I dunno how much of a pain it is to control and stuff |
| [08:15:07] | mchou: | marmoset: cant be too bad. tcp |
| [08:16:06] | mchou: | cant have that many commands anyways. "change to channel x" |
| [08:16:24] | marmoset: | so it is controlled via tcp with myth, not some sort of IR blaster-type crap? |
| [08:16:51] | mchou: | AFAIK, yes |
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| [08:21:55] | lyricnz: | It appears that the 24" imac is also 1920x1200 ; and the 17" macbook pro is just 1440x900 (feels like a step backwards, uugh) |
| [08:22:07] | lyricnz: | Mostly, I'll dock with a couple of 24" dell monitors, methinks |
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| [08:22:17] | marmoset: | lyricnz: yeah, the resolution is why I haven't been able to get a macbook |
| [08:22:33] | marmoset: | I want something smaller/lighter than what I have, but not give up too much screen space ;) |
| [08:22:40] | lyricnz: | I'll only be using the screen/keyboard like that when I'm on the road. |
| [08:22:49] | lyricnz: | Otherwise it'll plug into real screens/keyboards/etc |
| [08:22:54] | marmoset: | I use my laptop on the couch all the time |
| [08:23:01] | marmoset: | (IE not at a desk) |
| [08:23:22] | marmoset: | so, since nothing I've found is a clear win, I just wait ;) |
| [08:23:52] | lyricnz: | The dell 24" is au$800, and is also 1920x1200 (probably the same panels :) |
| [08:25:08] | marmoset: | I poured way too much scotch. |
| [08:25:28] | lyricnz: | is there such a thing? |
| [08:25:53] | marmoset: | given that it's 1:30, and I've already had a lot, I think yes. |
| [08:29:18] | marmoset: | heh, was going to order a hd homerun, but forgot my wallet is on the other side of the room, it's going to have to wait. |
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| [10:15:08] | yugge_: | Hey guys, I got a bit of a mess, I bought a IR-RC that attaches it self by USB, it mounts as a /dev/input/event, I've sorted all things out with inputlircd so the commands are correct, but I'm experiencing heavy repeat issues, I've taken a look throu evtest where it shows (per single quick keypress) 1 "value 1" (key down) 7 "value 2" (Key Repeat) 1 "value 0" (Key Up). Is |
| [10:15:14] | yugge_: | there ayway in inputlircd o r even evdev to ignore the repeats via ignoring the Value 2's? |
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| [10:57:42] | killaz: | hello mythtv, I want some experienced ppl telling me what hardware they have running HDTV on their myth |
| [10:58:03] | killaz: | I read some of the HTPC howto for linux etc and some review.. |
| [10:58:24] | killaz: | but still want to hear here what your guys experience are. |
| [11:01:13] | justinh: | don't even think about Epia boards ;) |
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| [12:22:53] | Patina: | justinh: What is wrong with epia? |
| [12:23:25] | justinh: | underpowered, overpriced |
| [12:23:31] | justinh: | I should know, I own one |
| [12:24:56] | justinh: | I think luck comes into being able to play HDTV on epia systems more than knowledge |
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| [12:56:16] | Patina: | justinh: A mythfrontend doesn't need much power. |
| [12:56:32] | stuarta: | does if you want to watch HD |
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| [12:57:15] | galorin: | Got an odd problem, tried to get the Radio Times feed, as per intructions at http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_id.php but it didn't work right without a lot of de-bugging. Now, mythfilldatabase keeps trying to use DataDirect instead of EIT |
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| [13:14:46] | SeveredSpirit: | Anyone experiencing any problem using their DVB card in the most recent build like me? |
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| [13:15:46] | stuarta: | define "most recent build" |
| [13:16:18] | SeveredSpirit: | well the build from svn trunk last night |
| [13:16:51] | stuarta: | i'd better install what i just built then.... |
| [13:17:05] | SeveredSpirit: | you have DVB aswell? |
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| [13:17:40] | stuarta: | only thing i have |
| [13:17:49] | stuarta: | what are your symptoms? |
| [13:17:52] | SeveredSpirit: | same here |
| [13:18:04] | SeveredSpirit: | cant seem to get it to connect properly |
| [13:18:15] | stuarta: | open the device? |
| [13:18:18] | SeveredSpirit: | in older builds it has been fine |
| [13:18:43] | SeveredSpirit: | keeps locking me out saying "Failed To Open The Card" whenever I scan for channels |
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| [13:19:02] | stuarta: | have you updated your kernel? |
| [13:19:17] | SeveredSpirit: | yep, last night after I first experience the problem |
| [13:19:32] | leprasmurf: | hello all |
| [13:19:48] | stuarta: | hmmm, often updating causes these things |
| [13:20:02] | SeveredSpirit: | hmm, always the way |
| [13:20:06] | ** stuarta attempts to finish reading -commits ** | |
| [13:20:49] | stuarta: | however you did that *after* |
| [13:20:50] | SeveredSpirit: | plus when i use 'dmesg | grep frontend' all it displays is 'DVB: registering frontend 0 (Conexant CX22702 DVB-T)', does this mean that its currently trying to install the card? |
| [13:20:56] | leprasmurf: | I'm trying to plan my setup, was wondering if I could pick some brains |
| [13:21:17] | stuarta: | that just means it's found the card and loaded the drivers |
| [13:21:27] | SeveredSpirit: | ah, okies |
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| [13:21:57] | SeveredSpirit: | just unsure cause after having a look online it seems that people are getting a bit more information after this |
| [13:22:41] | leprasmurf: | I've got a moderate system (1.3 ghz, 512 ram, about 80 gigs hd available) that I'd like to use as my combo front/back end, I'd like to use my wife's computer as a backend also to use for storage and transcoding jobs. Does that require installing the full backend software on her computer? |
| [13:23:34] | stuarta: | leprasmurf: yes |
| [13:24:07] | leprasmurf: | can I install it seamlessly (from my wife's perspective) and assign it a low priority? |
| [13:24:32] | stuarta: | what do you mean by assign it a low priority? |
| [13:24:52] | leprasmurf: | the transcode jobs, commercial flagging, etc |
| [13:25:38] | stuarta: | those jobs already run with a nice'd priority |
| [13:25:50] | leprasmurf: | a perpetual nice 19 |
| [13:26:10] | leprasmurf: | is it configurable? |
| [13:26:23] | stuarta: | can't get any nicer that 19 |
| [13:26:44] | directhex: | i'm nicer than 19! |
| [13:26:50] | leprasmurf: | how nice:-P |
| [13:26:56] | stuarta: | !trout directhex |
| [13:26:56] | ** MythLogBot slaps directhex with a trout on behalf of stuarta... ** | |
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| [13:27:08] | directhex: | nicely done |
| [13:27:15] | stuarta: | :) |
| [13:27:34] | leprasmurf: | I don't want to go through all the work and piss off my wife (she hates when I fudge with her computer) |
| [13:27:53] | stuarta: | if you make it a slave backend it'll only be used when needed |
| [13:27:55] | leprasmurf: | so I can configure the nice level then? |
| [13:28:02] | leprasmurf: | sweet |
| [13:28:07] | stuarta: | you can configure when a backend is allowed to run jobs |
| [13:28:19] | leprasmurf: | that'll work too |
| [13:28:26] | leprasmurf: | can have it running at night |
| [13:28:31] | stuarta: | yep |
| [13:29:04] | leprasmurf: | cool |
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| [13:30:29] | leprasmurf: | one last question for now, have the stories of how much of a PITA it is to manually configure a mythtv backed been grossly exaggerated? |
| [13:31:15] | stuarta: | not if you RTFM :) |
| [13:31:23] | leprasmurf: | god help me then:-P |
| [13:31:50] | stuarta: | it's one of the few programs where reading the manual will help you avoid 99% of the gotcha's |
| [13:32:27] | leprasmurf: | fun times. I'll make sure not to come off a night shift then |
| [13:32:37] | leprasmurf: | alright, thanks stuarta |
| [13:32:54] | stuarta: | read it on the night shift :) |
| [13:33:01] | leprasmurf: | very true |
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| [13:58:45] | SeveredSpirit: | stuarta did you get any luck with the latest build? |
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| [13:59:05] | Patina: | "The file for this recording can not be found" <-- What can be the reason for this? |
| [14:00:07] | SeveredSpirit: | self-explanitory |
| [14:00:35] | SeveredSpirit: | are you sure that the file should be there, ie has it been deleted or have you moved it |
| [14:01:36] | Patina: | It seems like myth intended to record something, but forgot to save it. |
| [14:01:47] | Patina: | No I have not deleted nor moved it. |
| [14:01:52] | Patina: | And the disk is not full. |
| [14:02:14] | SeveredSpirit: | is this the latest build or an earlier version |
| [14:03:15] | SeveredSpirit: | more importantly is this a new installation, or have you been using it for awhile |
| [14:03:52] | Patina: | Can't find the version number and I have been using it for a while. |
| [14:04:06] | Patina: | Could bad reception cause this? |
| [14:04:42] | SeveredSpirit: | ah, yes, check your mythweb for the recently recorded shows and see how big the file size is |
| [14:04:44] | stuarta: | SeveredSpirit: not tried yet. i'm trying to catch up on -commits before i jump as the original Star Wars is on in 2 hrs :) |
| [14:04:59] | SeveredSpirit: | okies, np :) |
| [14:05:11] | stuarta: | sadly i don't have a separate dev box yet :( |
| [14:05:27] | SeveredSpirit: | lol, np, thanks for your help though |
| [14:05:53] | stuarta: | but so far haven't seen anything in -commits that might cause issues... |
| [14:07:06] | SeveredSpirit: | hmm, well ill have a deeper look, its probably gonna get harder before it gets easier, if I find a solution ill leave a message incase you received the same problem |
| [14:07:08] | SeveredSpirit: | Patina: I know with my mythbox which uses a dvb if it cant make a connection such as if the cable was not connected properly, it will record nothing but still store it in the database |
| [14:07:30] | djbeenie_: | when i run mythtv and i select "Watch TV" what is supposed to happen, my screen goes black and I get no image and then it puts me back at the watch tv screen |
| [14:08:20] | SeveredSpirit: | does it show any error messages before going to the mythtv main menu screen? |
| [14:08:45] | djbeenie_: | no error |
| [14:08:52] | djbeenie_: | just goes back to the main screen |
| [14:10:48] | djbeenie_: | i know my capture card is working, I have it playing in mplayer |
| [14:12:34] | directhex: | there'll be something in your frontend or backend log |
| [14:12:45] | directhex: | probably somethig like "unable to change channel" |
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| [14:17:09] | djbeenie_: | can i pastebin it for me? |
| [14:17:22] | djbeenie_: | i mean for you |
| [14:17:27] | djbeenie_: | geez lol |
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| [14:17:54] | stuarta: | um it's a bit hard for us to pastebin your output :) |
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| [14:18:36] | djbeenie_: | http://pastebin.com/m306d14dd |
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| [14:20:22] | directhex: | 2007-10–28 18:06:32.690 EntryToProgram(0@Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969) failed to get pginfo ? |
| [14:20:25] | Patina: | SeveredSpirit: Thats the problem then. I am using a dvb-t and the antenna is not good enough. |
| [14:20:33] | directhex: | 2007-10–28 18:06:32.688 RemoteEncoder::SendReceiveStringList(): No response. ? |
| [14:20:53] | stuarta: | the encoder is on a slave backend? |
| [14:26:33] | ** stuarta attempts to catch tumbleweed for fun ** | |
| [14:30:11] | directhex: | stuarta, try shootig it with FLAME |
| [14:30:17] | stuarta: | ooo nice, the gnome screensave is now supported |
| [14:30:30] | directhex: | about *tender loving* time |
| [14:30:31] | stuarta: | mmmm FLAME |
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| [14:53:41] | djbeenie_: | can anyone help me with my problem? |
| [14:54:01] | stuarta: | SeveredSpirit: scanning works just fine on dvb with the latest svn. |
| [14:54:36] | stuarta: | djbeenie_: please answer previously asked questions. |
| [14:56:20] | stuarta: | are you using a slave backend? |
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| [14:58:17] | SeveredSpirit: | stuarta: hmm, odd, are you using a nova-t? |
| [14:58:23] | stuarta: | no |
| [14:58:47] | SeveredSpirit: | ah, maybe i somehow have to enable it in the kernel, wouldnt have thought so though |
| [14:58:58] | SeveredSpirit: | as it worked fine in the old kernel |
| [14:59:11] | stuarta: | you should have the relevant /dev/dvb entries |
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| [14:59:24] | SeveredSpirit: | yep |
| [14:59:45] | SeveredSpirit: | is there anything, particularly different witht he configuration for the card? |
| [14:59:53] | markl_: | i'm a long time mythtv user but i'm setting up a 2nd frontend for the first time |
| [15:00:00] | markl_: | do i want them to share the same mysql database |
| [15:00:06] | stuarta: | SeveredSpirit: no |
| [15:00:07] | markl_: | ? |
| [15:00:09] | directhex: | markl_, depends. do you want it to work? |
| [15:00:14] | markl_: | directhex: heh |
| [15:00:14] | ** stuarta chuckles ** | |
| [15:00:25] | stuarta: | do you want your existing content |
| [15:00:29] | directhex: | markl_, in which case, yes. each mysql databse signifies a mythtv network |
| [15:00:40] | SeveredSpirit: | stuarta: hmm, right back to google, thanks for your help |
| [15:00:49] | SeveredSpirit: | stuarta: what do you mean? |
| [15:01:01] | stuarta: | SeveredSpirit: that was for markl_ |
| [15:01:05] | SeveredSpirit: | ah, soz |
| [15:01:33] | stuarta: | do some scans with --verbose siparser,record,channel and capture the output |
| [15:01:39] | stuarta: | might be something in there. |
| [15:07:46] | SeveredSpirit: | stuarta: just done a tzap which worked fine in mplayer, meaning that there probably is something wrong witht the mythtv side of configuration |
| [15:08:09] | stuarta: | did you do a full scan? |
| [15:08:28] | SeveredSpirit: | yep, even played a stream which worked fine |
| [15:08:52] | stuarta: | so the scan finds all the channels? or not?# |
| [15:09:10] | SeveredSpirit: | yep, finds all of them, but not in mythtv |
| [15:09:46] | stuarta: | pastebin the output of mythtv-setup --verbose siparser,channel,record |
| [15:10:04] | stuarta: | when doing a scan |
| [15:10:06] | SeveredSpirit: | k, give me a sec |
| [15:13:41] | SeveredSpirit: | stuarta: http://pastebin.com/m56bf3f7b |
| [15:14:48] | SeveredSpirit: | oops, ignore that, just found an error |
| [15:15:26] | SeveredSpirit: | hmm, still get thje same error |
| [15:16:34] | stuarta: | you using a patched source? |
| [15:16:45] | SeveredSpirit: | no |
| [15:17:05] | stuarta: | hmmm GetSTBListPrivate i haven't seen before |
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| [15:17:07] | Jarda: | hellpo |
| [15:17:18] | SeveredSpirit: | yer same here |
| [15:17:30] | djbeenie_: | stuarta: no my backend is on the same box if thats what you mean |
| [15:17:59] | Jarda: | I'm using mythtv, And now I can't get any of my dvb-t channels to show anything. How can I debug if my card is broken? |
| [15:18:03] | djbeenie_: | sorry for the late response |
| [15:18:25] | Jarda: | it used to work a month a go. Then I haven't had the time to watch tv :) |
| [15:18:36] | stuarta: | djbeenie_: cause it looks like it's trying to contact a remote backend |
| [15:20:39] | djbeenie_: | stuarta: im using mythbackend on the same box pointing to a myql database |
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| [15:24:54] | stuarta: | djbeenie_: have you had it working yet? |
| [15:25:13] | Jarda: | ok, with mplayer dvb:// I can watch tv |
| [15:25:20] | Jarda: | why the hell isn't mythtv then working |
| [15:26:30] | stuarta: | Jarda: you've just proved your card is working |
| [15:26:51] | Jarda: | yes |
| [15:26:53] | stuarta: | suggest you go through rescanning your channels |
| [15:26:59] | Jarda: | ok |
| [15:27:02] | djbeenie_: | stuarta: no this is my firsttime getting it setup |
| [15:27:21] | stuarta: | djbeenie_: okay. change the backend ip address to a proper one, not 127.0.0.1 |
| [15:27:25] | Jarda: | my mythconverg database did actually get broken |
| [15:27:32] | stuarta: | Jarda: fix that first |
| [15:27:36] | Jarda: | had to repair it with mysqlrepair |
| [15:27:49] | djbeenie_: | stuarta: i know the card works, b/c i can pull up my tv with mplayer...ok ill try that |
| [15:27:50] | Jarda: | so it's allready fixed |
| [15:28:22] | stuarta: | Jarda: defintiely worth a rescan then. |
| [15:32:44] | djbeenie_: | stuarta: ok i did that..it says now it cold not connect to the master backend server-- is it running? Is the IP address set for it in the setup program correct |
| [15:34:47] | stuarta: | did you restart the backend? |
| [15:35:41] | djbeenie_: | stuarta: yes sir same error |
| [15:35:54] | stuarta: | hmmm |
| [15:35:58] | djbeenie_: | i can ping myself too |
| [15:36:08] | dr_lulz: | w |
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| [15:36:12] | djbeenie_: | both with 127.0.0.1 and my ip |
| [15:36:52] | stuarta: | what's the log look like now? |
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| [15:37:23] | stuarta: | ah, don't bother not much point. |
| [15:38:57] | djbeenie_: | stuarta: ok we are getting somewhere... lemme post up this log |
| [15:39:58] | djbeenie_: | http://pastebin.com/m5510a11b |
| [15:40:39] | stuarta: | that's an improvement :) |
| [15:40:59] | djbeenie_: | yeah :) |
| [15:41:19] | djbeenie_: | is it a mysql socket? |
| [15:42:00] | stuarta: | well it wouldn't get the backend ip if it couldn't talk to mysql |
| [15:42:11] | stuarta: | ah, hang on. |
| [15:42:12] | djbeenie_: | true |
| [15:42:13] | djbeenie_: | k |
| [15:42:55] | stuarta: | is your mysql database specified as a hostname too? |
| [15:42:55] | djbeenie_: | is it lirc thats causing it to crash? |
| [15:43:06] | stuarta: | not lirc |
| [15:43:07] | Jarda: | stuarta: ok, I rescanned and it found all the channels with no problem |
| [15:43:13] | Jarda: | still I get this: http://www.narhinen.net/mythtv.png |
| [15:43:38] | djbeenie_: | stuarta: yes it is |
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| [15:46:45] | stuarta: | Jarda: looks like an output problem |
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| [15:49:57] | djbeenie_: | stuarta: i changed mysql bind port to my ip address...im about to test it out |
| [15:50:07] | stuarta: | worth a try |
| [15:50:57] | Jarda: | stuarta: maybe if I try to connect with another computer to the backend? |
| [15:51:10] | markl_: | ok so my backend stores the recordings over nfs. is there any way to have the remote front ends read the files over nfs instead of having the backend read & re-send them? |
| [15:51:36] | stuarta: | markl_: mount the nfs share in the same place as the recordings are on the master backend |
| [15:51:49] | djbeenie_: | stuarta: same error ...dang |
| [15:51:50] | markl_: | stuarta: i did that |
| [15:52:16] | markl_: | stuarta: the error i am getting on the frontend is a complaint about RingBuf(myth://192.168.1.51:6543/1072_......) |
| [15:52:26] | markl_: | is there a check box or something to use |
| [15:53:01] | stuarta: | no, if it's mounted under the same place it should stream it automatically |
| [15:53:26] | markl_: | hmm i thought it used its own protocol by default for recordings |
| [15:53:36] | stuarta: | only if it can't find it |
| [15:55:05] | markl_: | ok cool, i'll double check the nfs & such |
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| [15:56:33] | ** stuarta says hmmm a lot ** | |
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| [16:00:01] | markl_: | stuarta: do i have to mount the nfs read-write? it is ro currently |
| [16:00:49] | stuarta: | don't believe so, it's however an easy thing to try |
| [16:03:36] | markl_: | heh except i have to power cycle my backend every time :O |
| [16:03:45] | markl_: | ~lart forcedeth |
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| [16:13:48] | GreyFoxx: | 0 |
| [16:13:59] | stuarta: | 1 |
| [16:14:00] | djbeenie_: | can anyone tell me how to start the databases over..i want to start from scratch |
| [16:14:03] | janneg: | 3 |
| [16:14:25] | SeveredSpirit: | drop database mythconverg; |
| [16:14:36] | SeveredSpirit: | in mysql |
| [16:14:43] | djbeenie_: | i did that |
| [16:14:59] | SeveredSpirit: | so you just want to restore a fresh database |
| [16:15:31] | SeveredSpirit: | if so http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 |
| [16:15:44] | djbeenie_: | im running mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql ..im getting ERROR 1146 at line 2: Table 'mysql.user' doesn't exist |
| [16:16:06] | SeveredSpirit: | hmm |
| [16:16:31] | djbeenie_: | oh wait i think i know what the problem is |
| [16:16:33] | djbeenie_: | one sec |
| [16:17:17] | stuarta: | sounds like you drop mysql not mythconverg |
| [16:17:46] | stuarta: | dropped |
| [16:18:23] | djbeenie_: | i did lol |
| [16:18:35] | stuarta: | oops |
| [16:18:36] | djbeenie_: | i had to re-setup mysql |
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| [16:23:26] | djbeenie_: | can anyone tell me what I should select for my capture card setup.. I have a wintv pvr-150... my device is /dev/v4l/video0... should it be analog V4L capture card? |
| [16:25:39] | djbeenie_: | or is it the MPEG-2 encoder card (PVR-x50, PVR-500) |
| [16:26:02] | stuarta: | you get 1 guess |
| [16:26:21] | djbeenie_: | i dunno lol |
| [16:26:40] | djbeenie_: | the 1st one? |
| [16:26:44] | stuarta: | read your previous 2 sentences, and see where they are similar |
| [16:26:57] | janneg: | doh. read the card types |
| [16:28:25] | djbeenie_: | ok i just wanted to make sure |
| [16:28:45] | djbeenie_: | im doing everything all over again..see if i mead an error somewhere |
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| [16:32:34] | justinh: | Patina: might be true that a mythfrontend doesn |
| [16:32:38] | SoulBlade: | can i watch livetv from a windows pc if i have mythtv running on a linux box? would i use mythtv player or mythstreamtv |
| [16:33:04] | justinh: | doesn't need 'much power' but what you need to realise is that Via's 'Ghz' are a pointless comparison to 'real' Ghz :P |
| [16:35:35] | justinh: | my epia m10k can't play SDTV mpeg2 without xvmc. AT ALL |
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| [16:38:43] | tjcarter: | haha |
| [16:39:03] | tjcarter: | 1 bit patch to make Qt build on my Mac =p |
| [16:39:20] | justinh: | so that's why I wouldn't recommend an Epia board. Hell if my house was on fire & Via made fire hoses I'd still not buy from them again |
| [16:39:22] | SoulBlade: | anybody? windows frontends for linux backend running mythtv? |
| [16:39:28] | justinh: | SoulBlade: no such |
| [16:39:48] | SoulBlade: | whats winmyth, mythplayer, and mythstreamtv? |
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| [16:39:56] | SoulBlade: | those wont let me watch livetv? |
| [16:40:12] | justinh: | none of them are mythtv frontends for windows, not in the sense of a anything recognisable |
| [16:40:38] | justinh: | mythplayer, tapework & mtyhstreamtv are for watching recordings only |
| [16:40:44] | SoulBlade: | weak |
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| [16:41:00] | justinh: | last I heard about winmyth was that it had bitrot so bad.. |
| [16:41:32] | justinh: | no, what's weak is that nobody who uses windows has (yet) wanted a windows frontend badly enough... |
| [16:41:52] | justinh: | if you only want to watch tv in windows there are other ways |
| [16:42:17] | SoulBlade: | i was hoping to have a mythtv backend |
| [16:42:34] | SoulBlade: | i want a free solution ;) the windows ones are beyondtv, sagetv, etc. |
| [16:42:39] | SoulBlade: | havent really found a good free one |
| [16:42:42] | justinh: | mediaportal |
| [16:42:46] | justinh: | oh wait you said GOOD one |
| [16:42:57] | SoulBlade: | ;) |
| [16:43:06] | markl_: | SoulBlade: maybe try using ubuntu instead of windows |
| [16:43:34] | SoulBlade: | nah i dont want to switch too much.. i just have one extra pc |
| [16:43:35] | justinh: | use mythtv enough & eventually your insane lust for 'live' tv will wane |
| [16:43:57] | SoulBlade: | can i watch something while its being recorded? |
| [16:44:00] | SoulBlade: | heh |
| [16:44:08] | SoulBlade: | though thats essentailly live tv |
| [16:44:11] | justinh: | of course you can |
| [16:44:20] | markl_: | you can set up multiple tuners too |
| [16:44:34] | SoulBlade: | using one of those windows clients? |
| [16:44:38] | justinh: | no |
| [16:44:42] | SoulBlade: | yea |
| [16:44:48] | SoulBlade: | sigh |
| [16:45:12] | justinh: | if any of the devs gave a stuff about windows, don't you think it'd already work on that? ;) |
| [16:45:40] | SoulBlade: | yea yea |
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| [16:46:13] | justinh: | obviously nobody cares that much about it so nobody has made it happen. I head it might be slowly edging towards working on windows though, through cygwin |
| [16:46:21] | justinh: | s/head/heard |
| [16:46:33] | SoulBlade: | better than nuthin.. |
| [16:46:47] | justinh: | I' |
| [16:46:47] | SoulBlade: | yea there arent any good free ones on windowz.. |
| [16:47:08] | justinh: | apart from the UI sucking up all your cpu in mediaportal what's the matter with it? ;) |
| [16:47:26] | SoulBlade: | i never tried it – just didnt seem highly recommended |
| [16:47:32] | justinh: | try it |
| [16:47:46] | justinh: | I tried it once. my athlon 2800 made it seem very sluggish |
| [16:48:21] | SoulBlade: | well can it do what i want? have one pc acting as the dvr and then remote ones acting as the viewers |
| [16:48:26] | SoulBlade: | including for livetv |
| [16:49:00] | justinh: | the development version can as far as I know |
| [16:49:43] | justinh: | after all the criticism mythtv has been in for, for using mysql, mediaportal got their client-server mix accomplished using MS SQL. rofl |
| [16:49:56] | SoulBlade: | haha |
| [16:50:04] | SoulBlade: | what do yoiu know aboutt gbpvr |
| [16:50:17] | justinh: | I know it's a big pile of steaming poo compared to mediaportal |
| [16:50:27] | SoulBlade: | hahahaha |
| [16:50:33] | SoulBlade: | nice |
| [16:51:03] | justinh: | if you really got to use windows, there's not much out there you can depend on though some swear by mediaportal & GBPVR. they must give up too easy |
| [16:51:46] | justinh: | that said, if you compare even MP or GBPVR to what comes with most tuner cards.... |
| [16:52:01] | justinh: | they're both whole universes better |
| [16:52:30] | SoulBlade: | i only require windows on the clients |
| [16:52:34] | justinh: | and before you even ask, running mythtv in a VM is likely to be disappointing |
| [16:52:42] | SoulBlade: | nah wasnt even considering it |
| [16:53:03] | SoulBlade: | well the thought did cross my mind, but i figured it would be craptacular |
| [16:53:07] | justinh: | heh |
| [16:53:36] | justinh: | the obvious leap might be to make a mythtv interface for MP or GBPVR :P |
| [16:54:13] | stuarta: | i need to work out why my archos doesn't see the recorded content only the video content |
| [16:55:04] | justinh: | it's not hard to get a program to speak mysql. it's not hard to share videos on a network... it's not hard to play media files.. |
| [16:55:21] | justinh: | people getting off their ass & doing it – that's the hard bit :P |
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| [17:11:53] | SeveredSpirit: | is anyone online using a nova-t card? |
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| [17:47:43] | SeveredSpirit: | stuarta: just a status update, its definately a problem with the sdcanning function of mythtv, so i just used my old database and upgraded it without changing the channel details and it works fine |
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| [17:49:03] | stuarta: | did you get the output of mythtv-setup --verbose siparser,channel,record ??? |
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| [17:55:28] | Jarda: | ok, now I'm using mythfrontend from a remote machine |
| [17:55:55] | Jarda: | the problem is, that when I choose a channel, it picks a radio channel instead |
| [17:56:04] | Jarda: | some of the channels work like they should |
| [17:56:05] | Jarda: | some not |
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| [18:01:45] | Hoxzer: | Jarda: have you tested those channels with other programs like xine ? |
| [18:02:02] | Jarda: | Hoxzer: yes |
| [18:02:10] | Hoxzer: | do they wokr ? |
| [18:02:14] | Jarda: | yes |
| [18:03:50] | Hoxzer: | do you have anlog or digital card ? |
| [18:04:39] | Jarda: | dvb |
| [18:05:05] | SeveredSpirit: | stuarta: http://pastebin.com/m56bf3f7b |
| [18:05:11] | SeveredSpirit: | sorry it took a while to get back |
| [18:06:57] | stuarta: | it doesn't look like there is any attempt to scan in there |
| [18:07:08] | SeveredSpirit: | i know :s |
| [18:07:20] | Hoxzer: | Ok, first thing I would do in your position is take a look at /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [18:07:26] | stuarta: | not much use without it.. |
| [18:08:13] | SeveredSpirit: | yer, really puzzled with that, perhaps its just the type of card which is mucking up mythtv] |
| [18:10:30] | tjcarter: | Have I ever mentioned that I hate Hate HATE C++ code and Qt in particular? |
| [18:10:48] | SeveredSpirit: | lol, Qt always annoys me |
| [18:10:54] | tjcarter: | I'm tired of having C++ code break with every single gcc version. |
| [18:11:04] | SeveredSpirit: | join the club |
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| [18:12:21] | tjcarter: | Mac people are once again without a frontend because surprise surprise, Qt3 explicitly forbids compiling with anything > 10.4 (which is fine because gcc has decided that yet more of Qt3 is a syntax error in the current version of C++ |
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| [18:33:24] | kchung: | besides using firewire with comcast/mot dct-6200, is there any other way to get pay HD channels into myth? ie, satelllite, etc |
| [18:39:56] | BULLE: | kchung: use a digital receiver card that is supported in linux, basicly |
| [18:40:09] | kchung: | in Hi def? |
| [18:40:19] | kchung: | you talking about ATSC HD? |
| [18:40:27] | BULLE: | kchung: if your card supports hidef, you can get it into myth |
| [18:40:33] | BULLE: | kchung: i know nothing about ATSC |
| [18:40:44] | BULLE: | kchung: its only used in the USA |
| [18:40:50] | kchung: | ah |
| [18:40:52] | kchung: | yes |
| [18:41:05] | kchung: | i'm talking about US cable or satellite companies |
| [18:41:05] | BULLE: | kchung: the majority of the world uses some sort of dvb |
| [18:41:11] | kchung: | how can i get their signal into my myth? |
| [18:41:14] | BULLE: | kchung: oh, im useless there, i have no clue about those |
| [18:41:20] | ** BULLE dont live in america ** | |
| [18:41:24] | kchung: | ya |
| [18:41:27] | stuarta: | you'll find it hard to find an unencrypted HD freed |
| [18:41:31] | stuarta: | feed even |
| [18:41:36] | BULLE: | stuarta: ye |
| [18:41:42] | BULLE: | stuarta: but we have lots of encrypted ones here |
| [18:41:46] | BULLE: | or, lots and lots, but some |
| [18:42:04] | kchung: | stuarta: so comcast + firewire would still be encrypted for premium channels? |
| [18:42:05] | stuarta: | so basically you need to decrypt it with your STB and capture the output from that |
| [18:42:26] | elb: | air feeds are all unencrypted, and most satellite and cable services do not encrypt them when they rebroadcast |
| [18:42:33] | BULLE: | stuarta: me ? i just got a dvb-card that accepts a cam, so i can receive enrypted content aswell |
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| [18:42:39] | elb: | but the satellite/cable originated feeds are a different story :-) |
| [18:42:50] | stuarta: | BULLE: most often in ATSC land that isn't the case |
| [18:42:54] | rushfan: | Can mythtv be used to capture video from an external camcorder if my card has compositve video? |
| [18:43:01] | BULLE: | stuarta: ah, ye |
| [18:43:29] | stuarta: | kchung: you mileage will vary depending on your provider |
| [18:43:33] | BULLE: | rushfan: yes it can, but there are other applications that are much more suited for that, mythtv is pretty useless in that respec, its not ment for digitalizing home recordings etc |
| [18:43:37] | stuarta: | some allow access to lots of stuff |
| [18:43:43] | kchung: | so what are my options to get premium channels in the usa? |
| [18:43:46] | kchung: | in hd |
| [18:43:54] | rushfan: | BULLE: can you recommend any applications for that? |
| [18:44:05] | stuarta: | some 5c encrypt/entangle a lot of stuff |
| [18:44:06] | kchung: | cap'ing off the STB will result in Standard Def |
| [18:44:16] | BULLE: | rushfan: i just tend to use kdenlive or avidemux2 or similar programs |
| [18:44:20] | stuarta: | basically only firewire |
| [18:44:23] | kchung: | stuarta: there are ways to break 5c? |
| [18:44:26] | rushfan: | Oh kdenlive can do it? Cool thanks |
| [18:44:34] | stuarta: | kchung: bitch at your provider |
| [18:44:52] | kchung: | stuarta: right |
| [18:45:04] | rushfan: | BULLE: oh isnt KDENlive just firewire? |
| [18:45:05] | stuarta: | you might be lucky and get unecrypted HD out the back |
| [18:45:09] | stuarta: | chances are you won't |
| [18:45:42] | BULLE: | rushfan: i was more thinking of the actual cuting and pasting and video editing part |
| [18:45:49] | BULLE: | rushfan: you can use mencoder or whatever to just dump the video to hd |
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| [18:45:53] | kchung: | suck |
| [18:46:10] | stuarta: | yep |
| [18:46:34] | stuarta: | apparently things are very specific to where you live |
| [18:46:44] | ** stuarta is not in the US ** | |
| [18:47:17] | rushfan: | BULLE: just use mplayer? Ok Ill go read up on that |
| [18:48:20] | kchung: | ah |
| [18:48:29] | kchung: | ya it sucks here |
| [18:48:37] | kchung: | and cablecard standard sucks |
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| [19:12:29] | rushfan: | BULLE: you have any experience with using mplayer to capture video? |
| [19:20:35] | Daviey: | Hey, is RT XML down? |
| [19:22:09] | rushfan: | Wow |
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| [19:28:00] | Hilikus: | how can i do somethir like "if mythfrontend is running do this, else start mythfrontend" in lircrc ?? |
| [19:30:13] | Hoxzer: | There is a way to tell lirc to run a script when button is pressed. |
| [19:30:36] | Hilikus: | but what do i put in the prog parameter?? |
| [19:30:48] | Hoxzer: | it should be somewhere at lirc homepage |
| [19:30:52] | Hoxzer: | dont remember it right now |
| [19:30:53] | Hilikus: | ok |
| [19:31:20] | Daviey: | Hilikus: there is a way of doing it... google will help :) |
| [19:31:27] | Hilikus: | cool |
| [19:37:38] | BULLE: | lets all worship google |
| [19:38:55] | Daviey: | Hilikus: exec a shell script.. magic is with bash |
| [19:39:12] | Hilikus: | yah i thought of that, thats not the issue |
| [19:39:26] | Daviey: | then what is? |
| [19:39:30] | Hilikus: | the isse is, whats the PROG param for, run this in a shell |
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| [19:40:54] | Daviey: | Hilikus: irexec |
| [19:41:32] | jduggan: | does anyone have a link to some small sample x264 files? i want to see if this box is capable |
| [19:43:43] | Hilikus: | Daviey ok, and from the bash script how do i tell it, pass key press L (or any key) to mythtv?? |
| [19:46:01] | directhex: | jd86, http://x264.nl/h.264.samples |
| [19:46:05] | directhex: | jduggan, ^^ |
| [19:46:27] | directhex: | jduggan, and the answer is likely to be "no", unless you've been applying patches to your myth |
| [19:47:11] | Daviey: | Hilikus: hmm.. unless there is a bash way of sending a keypress – I would use myth's telnet interface to localhost |
| [19:47:21] | Hilikus: | :S |
| [19:47:27] | Hilikus: | too complicated |
| [19:48:20] | Daviey: | Hilikus: do as much as you can.. then pastebin |
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| [19:50:56] | jduggan: | directhex: heh, its not got myth on it yet – its a dual core 2ghz, but i want to see its capabilities before i bother with myth+HD |
| [19:51:15] | jduggan: | nopoint fussing with patches if the wont do much :) |
| [19:51:50] | directhex: | jduggan, no, it's not fast enough, not with the h264 decoder code in myth |
| [19:52:02] | jduggan: | and it failed miserably – i probably need a newer ffmpeg/mplayer |
| [19:52:16] | iamlindoro: | Well, depending on 720/1080p |
| [19:52:17] | iamlindoro: | anyway |
| [19:52:25] | iamlindoro: | should do 720p ok though |
| [19:53:03] | directhex: | iamlindoro, nope |
| [19:53:49] | directhex: | iamlindoro, almost all broadcast HD in europe is 1080i, which has the same bandwidth requirements as 720p. in either case, not happening without multithreaded h264 decoding |
| [19:53:49] | iamlindoro: | Directhex, my old Pentium D handled 720p h264 without too many issues... lots of ram though |
| [19:54:24] | directhex: | iamlindoro, *broadcast* hd is very different to stuff from hd-dvds or elephant's dream |
| [19:54:27] | iamlindoro: | directhex, i presume broadcast hd there and here are the same... Mpeg-2, not h264... |
| [19:54:41] | iamlindoro: | I am well aware of that |
| [19:54:45] | iamlindoro: | and the differences |
| [19:54:47] | directhex: | iamlindoro, wrong entirely. europe uses h264 for broadcast hd |
| [19:54:53] | iamlindoro: | wow, interesting, didn't know that |
| [19:55:08] | directhex: | all the files on http://x264.nl/h.264.samples are captures from european hd broadcasts |
| [19:55:14] | directhex: | feel free to try one out |
| [19:55:18] | iamlindoro: | no need to be rude semi-rude, though |
| [19:55:38] | directhex: | i'm in a bad mood, and i call a spade a *tender loving* shovel. |
| [19:55:48] | iamlindoro: | so I see |
| [19:56:14] | iamlindoro: | All the same, didn't know it was h264 in the EU, interesting |
| [19:56:16] | directhex: | http://x264.nl/h.264.samples/force.php?file=./bbc.hd.ts is the usual example. it might play on some players, but a/v sync will be nowhere to be seen, unless you have bleeding edge ffmpeg code |
| [19:56:33] | Daviey: | ]#mythtv-users needs at least one 'grump' at any one time.. As juski aint here directhex has taken the role |
| [19:57:06] | directhex: | it's a tough job, but somone's gotta do it |
| [19:57:40] | Daviey: | sadly juski does a better job tho |
| [19:58:05] | iamlindoro: | Heh, Juski and I get on well ;) |
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| [20:00:46] | Daviey: | Oh we all get along well with juski; he's a nice chap.. His temper is his greatest asset |
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| [20:04:22] | dr1234: | anyone know much about mythtv and HDTV ? |
| [20:05:04] | GreyFoxx: | It's easier to just ask a specific question, and if someone can answer they will :) |
| [20:05:51] | dr1234: | i'm just trying to understand it...I have a sat recvr into a hauppauge 350 right now...via svideo |
| [20:06:02] | dr1234: | hdsat rcvrs mostly have hdmi |
| [20:06:08] | xris: | dr1234: you can't do hd with sat |
| [20:06:12] | dr1234: | what sorta capture card do I need for that |
| [20:06:25] | GreyFoxx: | The 350 wont decode or output HDTV, but fi you decode in CPU and only output SDTV then it would work |
| [20:06:27] | xris: | only terrestrial broadcast or cable/firewire |
| [20:06:49] | dr1234: | yea...I'm using Bell Expressvu up here in Canada |
| [20:07:02] | dr1234: | my myth setup works great...but was interested in getting HD sat |
| [20:07:10] | dr1234: | then PVR'ing my HD sat |
| [20:07:45] | dr1234: | so no dice... |
| [20:07:57] | xris: | nope |
| [20:07:58] | dr1234: | get a hardware pvr from them...meh. |
| [20:08:10] | dr1234: | i have one of their regular ones....never use it cause I love myth |
| [20:08:11] | xris: | the sat companies aren't regulated in the same way that cable companies are. |
| [20:08:24] | xris: | and they encrypt everything (which some cable franchises don't do) |
| [20:08:36] | dr1234: | so no one makes a mpeg2 encoder that takes hdmi input ? |
| [20:09:18] | BULLE: | dr1234: no, as you wont get an hdmi licence for such a thing |
| [20:09:28] | dr1234: | ah |
| [20:09:39] | BULLE: | dr1234: its pretty simple, the whole idea with hdmi and hdcp is that you should not be able to record stuff |
| [20:09:52] | dr1234: | oh |
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| [20:09:56] | AndyCap: | not that recording from hdmi is practical anyway. |
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| [20:10:38] | dr1234: | so once someone gets hooked on HDTV programming, mythv is an issue |
| [20:11:04] | dr1234: | if you have a nice tv, and hd programming, you probably wont want to watch a lesser quality recording unless you have to |
| [20:11:31] | directhex: | dr1234, it's an issue in your geographic location, not for everybody |
| [20:11:38] | dr1234: | right |
| [20:11:42] | dr1234: | atsc or something |
| [20:11:50] | dr1234: | hd over antennae ? |
| [20:11:59] | directhex: | for example |
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| [20:13:49] | dr1234: | I'm sad :( |
| [20:14:48] | dr1234: | thx guys |
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| [20:14:55] | BULLE: | dr1234: you are pretty darn correct, in that most hd broadcasts, indeed wont be recordable |
| [20:15:05] | BULLE: | around here i havent seen a single stb that doesnt use hdmi for hd output |
| [20:15:42] | defaultro: | hey folks, i need some ideas. I'm bringing down my htpc down to the basement however, wife needs the set top box in the first floor. How can I extend firewire? Or do you guys know of Firewire over IP? I did see tons of IP over firewire |
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| [20:16:51] | BULLE: | defaultro: start by checking what the max cable length is for firewire ? |
| [20:17:22] | BULLE: | defaultro: seems to be roughly 4.5 meters |
| [20:18:06] | defaultro: | :( |
| [20:18:30] | defaultro: | i really can't find any 1394 over IP. Looks like I need to buy another capture card |
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| [20:18:52] | defaultro: | i'm just sad that my old Air2PC can't do QAM |
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| [20:19:20] | BULLE: | defaultro: how long cable do you need ? |
| [20:19:59] | defaultro: | 70 ft |
| [20:20:14] | defaultro: | that's how far I will be moving the htpc from the original location |
| [20:20:21] | defaultro: | somewhere 70–85 |
| [20:21:43] | defaultro: | or maybe, has someone able to get air2pc v2 working with qam in Comcast? |
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| [20:23:10] | iamlindoro: | Seems far cheaper logistically to just get another STB |
| [20:23:30] | defaultro: | this is ouch for me, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/120371 |
| [20:23:51] | defaultro: | so looks like there is really no way to get QAM working |
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| [20:25:37] | tcpsyn: | I've got onboard audio.. it's the realtek alc653 using the intel8x0 driver. |
| [20:25:47] | tcpsyn: | that sound card has a line, mic, and speaker out |
| [20:25:59] | tcpsyn: | does one of those work as spdif? |
| [20:26:15] | tcpsyn: | hrm. Maybe I should ask in alsa, I just wanted to see if someone was using myth like that |
| [20:27:04] | iamlindoro: | I may be off, but I think if you run alsa-mixer and see if you have a "PCM" or "IEC958" there may be hope |
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| [20:27:12] | tcpsyn: | I have pcm |
| [20:27:32] | iamlindoro: | Then there's hope, but I have no knowledge of your card |
| [20:27:41] | tcpsyn: | and IEC958 |
| [20:27:59] | iamlindoro: | may just be that you have the solder points on the motherboard, and nothing connected to them |
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| [20:28:07] | tcpsyn: | oh shitty |
| [20:28:09] | iamlindoro: | What's the mobo? |
| [20:28:50] | tcpsyn: | Foxconn C51GU01 Motherboard |
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| [20:32:27] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, doesn't look promising... looks like there might be a trace on there somewhere, but no hardware that will support digital out |
| [20:32:28] | defaultro: | tcpsyn, spdif out is a different cable |
| [20:32:47] | tcpsyn: | defaultro, I've seen 1/8 -> RCA spdif cables, no? |
| [20:32:54] | defaultro: | it should say SPDIF on the mobo. Then I bought the cable/wire |
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| [20:33:04] | defaultro: | yes, the RCA should work |
| [20:33:14] | tcpsyn: | no, 1/8 to RCA |
| [20:33:24] | tcpsyn: | there is no RCA out on the mobo |
| [20:33:26] | defaultro: | it was just pins on the mobo like 4 pin soundcard |
| [20:33:43] | defaultro: | then the wire I bought, I hooked it up to those pins |
| [20:33:51] | defaultro: | the other end is RCA and toslink |
| [20:34:10] | defaultro: | RCA only would be fine if your receiver has RCA input as well for digital |
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| [20:36:08] | tcpsyn: | damn. |
| [20:36:18] | tcpsyn: | probably easier to just get an external soundcard |
| [20:36:43] | tcpsyn: | or to just go analog |
| [20:36:55] | tcpsyn: | and send 3 1/8->RCA cables to the reciever |
| [20:36:55] | iamlindoro: | Yup, there's a Turtle Beach USB card that I just installed on my folk's myth box w/ optical ins and outs... cheap and plug and play |
| [20:37:10] | JohnQP: | Some shows (For example, anything on the discovery Channel) are letter boxed (16:9?), even though they come in over a regular 4:3 cable signal. Is there any support in mythtv for identifying where the black bars on top and bottom are, and cropping them out while recording? So that when played back on a widescreen setup they fill the screen? |
| [20:37:36] | tcpsyn: | you could overscan them on the fly |
| [20:37:45] | tcpsyn: | change the aspect ratio from the menu |
| [20:38:07] | tcpsyn: | you can force the default aspect ratio |
| [20:38:16] | tcpsyn: | but... I don't think you can crop the bars off |
| [20:38:17] | JohnQP: | But no way to automatically have it to detect the aspect ratio? |
| [20:38:23] | JohnQP: | Hmm |
| [20:38:37] | tcpsyn: | My digital channels auto detect |
| [20:38:54] | JohnQP: | No digital channels here :-( |
| [20:39:49] | JohnQP: | I wonder if I can crop it during transcode, and just set up a few differnt transcoders for the various sizes and set up the recordings appropriately |
| [20:40:08] | JohnQP: | can you crop durring a lossless transcode? |
| [20:40:18] | iamlindoro: | Nope |
| [20:40:27] | JohnQP: | fooey |
| [20:46:54] | tcpsyn: | iamlindor, what turtle beach model? |
| [20:47:17] | iamlindoro: | Lemme see, think I still have the package in the closet here |
| [20:47:30] | iamlindoro: | Audio Advantage SRM |
| [20:48:42] | jarle_: | I have noticed that in some recordings I get blank frames for a second or two several times in a recording. I'm guessing that there is some transition or something that mythtv is not displaying correctly? Is there any settings I could try changing? |
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| [20:49:19] | tcpsyn: | sd or sd? |
| [20:49:21] | tcpsyn: | er hd |
| [20:49:28] | jarle_: | sd |
| [20:49:36] | jarle_: | dvb-s recording |
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| [20:50:03] | tcpsyn: | I've seen that with hd recordings over 100Mb connections |
| [20:50:11] | tcpsyn: | but.. shouldn't be the case with sd |
| [20:50:12] | jarle_: | only the video is blank, audio is normal.. |
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| [20:50:43] | tcpsyn: | weird. |
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| [20:58:08] | baxter_kylie: | Hi. Can anyone explain what [mythmusic_albums].[compilation] is used for? |
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| [21:03:51] | rushfan_: | Anyway to crop the mythtv input? |
| [21:03:52] | tcpsyn: | baxter_ky, might want to ask in #mythtv |
| [21:03:57] | rushfan_: | So it records without all the black area around the edges? |
| [21:04:06] | Hilikus: | why is irexec not started by default?? |
| [21:04:08] | tcpsyn: | rushfan, you can overscan it |
| [21:04:16] | rushfan_: | overscan? |
| [21:04:38] | Hilikus: | can i start a process without using irexec? |
| [21:04:51] | tcpsyn: | Yeah, overscan with stretch the video so it pushes the bars off the screen. |
| [21:04:57] | tcpsyn: | But play with the different aspect ratios |
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| [21:05:03] | tcpsyn: | hilikus, what are you trying to do |
| [21:05:10] | Hilikus: | start mythfrontend |
| [21:05:18] | Hilikus: | with my remote |
| [21:05:20] | tcpsyn: | oh. |
| [21:05:24] | FunkyELF: | anyone use the UPnP server in MythTV? I'm trying to get my PS3 to see it....does it run by default or do I need to enable it? |
| [21:05:30] | tcpsyn: | I use it |
| [21:05:32] | tcpsyn: | it just works |
| [21:05:35] | tcpsyn: | the upnp |
| [21:05:40] | tcpsyn: | ps3 just finds it |
| [21:05:57] | tcpsyn: | doesn't do hd recordings with audio though |
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| [21:06:09] | tcpsyn: | because it can't play back ac3 in mpeg2-ts |
| [21:06:20] | tcpsyn: | hilikus, I think I might try that when I get home. |
| [21:06:26] | tcpsyn: | hilikus, hadn't thought of it |
| [21:06:58] | tcpsyn: | You could use one of the window manager ones. |
| [21:07:01] | tcpsyn: | like ksirc |
| [21:07:02] | tcpsyn: | er. |
| [21:07:05] | tcpsyn: | kirc |
| [21:07:10] | tcpsyn: | the kde lirc manager |
| [21:07:13] | tcpsyn: | whatever its called |
| [21:08:42] | Hilikus: | mmm |
| [21:08:45] | Hilikus: | interetisg |
| [21:08:54] | Hilikus: | i dont want to run yet another daemon (irexec) |
| [21:11:29] | FunkyELF: | tcpsyn, hmm, my PS3 doesn't see it |
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| [21:12:32] | tcpsyn: | hilikus, you're already using lirc |
| [21:12:41] | tcpsyn: | lircd is the daemon |
| [21:12:52] | Hilikus: | i know |
| [21:13:05] | Hilikus: | i dont want to run irexec too |
| [21:13:11] | tcpsyn: | then use a window manager app to respond to the lirc command |
| [21:13:23] | tcpsyn: | but irexec is almost no overhead... whats the problem? |
| [21:13:26] | Hilikus: | cause irexec would be used every blue moon |
| [21:13:27] | tcpsyn: | why don't you want to use it |
| [21:13:41] | tcpsyn: | So |
| [21:13:41] | rushfan_: | " TV Playback Overscan Adjustment Settings" --> from the mythtv web-site |
| [21:13:46] | rushfan_: | but it doesnt say where those settings are :| |
| [21:13:59] | tcpsyn: | oh, they're in the playback settings in mythfrontend |
| [21:14:07] | clever: | Hilikus: what do you want to start without irexec? |
| [21:14:09] | Hilikus: | i have apache, mysql, mythtv, etc etc |
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| [21:14:19] | tcpsyn: | so do the rest of us |
| [21:14:20] | Hilikus: | i dont want more bg processes |
| [21:14:38] | Hilikus: | clever mythfrontend |
| [21:14:39] | tcpsyn: | but it's a bg process thats uses almost no resources |
| [21:14:46] | clever: | Hilikus: have you seen mythwelcome? |
| [21:14:51] | tcpsyn: | its not like irexec is gonna peg your cpu |
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| [21:14:57] | Hilikus: | yes |
| [21:15:03] | clever: | Hilikus: it uses less ram and handled lirc (for a butotn to start the fe) |
| [21:15:19] | tcpsyn: | funkyelf are you using the new myth version? |
| [21:15:27] | clever: | i run mythwelcome on all my frontends |
| [21:15:29] | tcpsyn: | .2? |
| [21:15:31] | directhex: | tcpsyn, our "scientific software advisor" at work is convinced linux can only run one process on a system at once withuot a ~80% performance drop per process. he's also quite mad |
| [21:15:48] | tcpsyn: | Yeah, he's a strange fellow. |
| [21:15:53] | FunkyELF: | tcpsyn, yes....but I had the server as 127.0.0.1 I just set it up correctly to see if it works now. I only have one box (backend and frontend) |
| [21:16:13] | tcpsyn: | what firmware is your ps3 at? |
| [21:17:15] | clever: | directhex: i was doing some tests with mythtranscode to see how it performed |
| [21:17:37] | clever: | directhex: and for some odd reason(easyer files or cpu features) the pc running 3 jobs was going faster(hz/fps) |
| [21:17:55] | directhex: | tcpsyn, 1.94 i think? the latest, whatever |
| [21:18:23] | tcpsyn: | and on the ps3 have you searched for media servers? |
| [21:18:27] | rushfan_: | I fixed the overscan but it still records with large black areas |
| [21:18:29] | rushfan_: | how do I resolve that? |
| [21:18:42] | tcpsyn: | you can play with the aspect ratio |
| [21:18:42] | clever: | the 1.6ghz system was doing a single transcode(13fps) which comes out to about 115hz/fps |
| [21:18:44] | directhex: | tcpsyn, i already use myth via my ps3. on occasion |
| [21:18:57] | tcpsyn: | no... I mean from within gameos |
| [21:19:04] | directhex: | tcpsyn, yes, so do i |
| [21:19:09] | directhex: | tcpsyn, the upnp works |
| [21:19:09] | clever: | the 1ghz laptop doing 3 jobs(totaling 13 fps) was at 78–82hz/fps |
| [21:19:11] | tcpsyn: | oh |
| [21:19:13] | tcpsyn: | right |
| [21:19:17] | rushfan_: | tcpsyn: I tried that :| |
| [21:19:18] | tcpsyn: | what were we talking about then |
| [21:19:19] | tcpsyn: | heh |
| [21:19:19] | directhex: | tcpsyn, vorbis support in xmb would be nice |
| [21:19:30] | tcpsyn: | ac3 support in mpeg2-ts streams would be nice |
| [21:19:38] | tcpsyn: | that pisses me off |
| [21:19:38] | directhex: | yes, that too |
| [21:19:47] | tcpsyn: | that's the only reason I still have a mythfrontend. |
| [21:19:50] | tcpsyn: | I'd just use the ps3 |
| [21:19:58] | tcpsyn: | and not have to have my pc on all the time |
| [21:20:04] | directhex: | if only ps3 linux wasn't unmitigated wank |
| [21:20:13] | tcpsyn: | yellowdog? |
| [21:20:17] | directhex: | all of them |
| [21:20:23] | tcpsyn: | I haven't messed with them |
| [21:20:25] | tcpsyn: | no point |
| [21:20:25] | FunkyELF: | tcpsyn, sweet....I got it working.....only bad thing is that you can't delete shows from there |
| [21:20:43] | tcpsyn: | funkyelf, no, you'd have to use mythweb and the ps3 browser |
| [21:20:44] | FunkyELF: | tcpsyn, I have been using my xbox w/ xbmc-mythtv plugin which allows you to delete |
| [21:21:10] | directhex: | FunkyELF, upnp isn't meant to give you delete powers. be happy that it works at all, out-of-the-box |
| [21:21:44] | tcpsyn: | yeah. Just set you auto expire rules right |
| [21:21:49] | directhex: | tcpsyn, i've a 3-way review of ps3 linux waiting to be uploaded, which is far from positive |
| [21:22:25] | tcpsyn: | yeah. |
| [21:22:28] | tcpsyn: | It'll get better |
| [21:22:31] | tcpsyn: | just give it time |
| [21:22:54] | tcpsyn: | But.. the ac3 thing really boggles me |
| [21:23:00] | directhex: | it's had a year. now i'm annoyed |
| [21:23:10] | tcpsyn: | I'm dissapointed as well |
| [21:23:20] | tcpsyn: | I don't give a rats ass about rumble pack support |
| [21:23:26] | tcpsyn: | I want my hd recordings to play |
| [21:25:43] | FunkyELF: | now I guess I need to set up music and videos in MythTV to get them playing on the PS3 |
| [21:26:11] | mchou: | lol |
| [21:26:15] | directhex: | FunkyELF, yes. your mythmusic and mythvideo databases are made available |
| [21:26:21] | FunkyELF: | really pisses me off that I need to go through MythTV for that. MythTV is great for recordings but I think its real dumb with mp3s / videos. I wish it would just browse a samba share |
| [21:26:43] | tcpsyn: | my videos don't play because they're all isos |
| [21:26:48] | mchou: | FunkyELF: well, not to mention the crappy ui as well :) |
| [21:26:49] | FunkyELF: | I had it set up at one point and I got tired of having to update the database every time I added a new mp3 |
| [21:26:55] | directhex: | tcpsyn, mine are all ogm/h264/ac3 |
| [21:27:06] | tcpsyn: | ac3 ain't gonna do much for you either |
| [21:27:11] | tcpsyn: | as we've mentioned. |
| [21:27:14] | FunkyELF: | XMBC is the best for music and video....MythTV is good for recordings |
| [21:27:15] | directhex: | ogm's the bigger problem |
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| [21:27:50] | mchou: | FunkyELF: why not add the code to browse a dir yourself? |
| [21:27:59] | directhex: | funny thing is, sony know all about ogg. they've used libvorbis in in-house ps2 games |
| [21:28:12] | FunkyELF: | mchou, I'm talking about from MythTV |
| [21:28:13] | mchou: | FunkyELF: I'm not joking. it would be an improvement |
| [21:28:16] | tcpsyn: | I stick with mp3 |
| [21:28:33] | FunkyELF: | mchou, sorry....I misread what you said |
| [21:28:37] | directhex: | tcpsyn, mp3 has technical issues that annoy me |
| [21:28:37] | mchou: | FunkyELF: I'm talking mythtv code...... |
| [21:29:05] | tcpsyn: | directhex, like the way it plays in everything :) |
| [21:29:26] | directhex: | tcpsyn, so does WMA |
| [21:29:30] | tcpsyn: | ew |
| [21:29:31] | mchou: | it would be rather simple assuming the dir has atime turned on..... |
| [21:29:56] | venger: | i have an .xinitrc to start mythfrontend automatically. My desktop is xfce4. sometimes, but not always, after X is loads, mythfrontend is minimized. is there anything to combat this behavior? |
| [21:30:26] | tcpsyn: | venger, I'd love to know if you find out |
| [21:30:42] | dr_lulz: | venger: is there any need to use xfce? if its just to run mythtv, using another wm would be faster i guess |
| [21:30:53] | directhex: | tcpsyn, mp3's a dodgy format, patent-encumbered. i'd rather use a modern format, and of the modern formats, vorbis suits my lifestyle best. lack of support is rarely an issue – i can play it on my computer or my portable player |
| [21:31:09] | tcpsyn: | I still rock the ipod |
| [21:31:12] | tcpsyn: | so, I stick with mp3 |
| [21:31:32] | venger: | dr_lulz, well the only thing "lighter" that i know of is blackbox, but i'm not sure that gaurantees a startup item will take focus does it? |
| [21:31:39] | directhex: | i dislike the ipod, and moved away from mp3 largely because of it |
| [21:31:45] | mchou: | I thought vorbis is just a container...... |
| [21:31:47] | ** FunkyELF runs nice -n 19 emerge -uDNv mythvideo mythmusic ** | |
| [21:31:51] | tcpsyn: | fluxbox |
| [21:31:53] | tcpsyn: | ? |
| [21:31:58] | dr_lulz: | venger: there are a lot of "lighter" ones, also some which dont know the concept of "minimized" |
| [21:32:01] | tcpsyn: | I guess blackbox is the same, huh |
| [21:32:01] | mchou: | not a bona-fide format |
| [21:32:24] | directhex: | mchou, ogg is a container. vorbis is a codec |
| [21:32:30] | tcpsyn: | ps3 still considers all my music unsupported |
| [21:32:33] | tcpsyn: | pain in the ass |
| [21:32:34] | venger: | dr_lulz, well iconfied would be worse =P |
| [21:32:39] | tcpsyn: | as a media center, it sucks tbh |
| [21:32:50] | dr_lulz: | venger: lol |
| [21:33:47] | tcpsyn: | maybe you could use lirc to maximize it? |
| [21:34:24] | venger: | that would be a decent workaround guess ill continue to poke at goodle for now |
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| [21:34:37] | venger: | lol, google*.. |
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| [22:14:02] | defaultro: | hey folks, what's the difference between teaser and a trailer? |
| [22:14:31] | mchou: | trailer gives away the whole movie |
| [22:14:43] | defaultro: | hey buddy :) |
| [22:14:44] | defaultro: | thanks |
| [22:15:51] | mchou: | it's kind of like the first 5 minutes of a a TV show, where they "review" what happened on the last episode (think "24" |
| [22:15:54] | mchou: | ) |
| [22:16:09] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [22:16:42] | mchou: | anyway, you all better load up on movies |
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| [22:17:14] | defaultro: | yes, I'm still saving money for hddvd player :) |
| [22:17:14] | mchou: | cause the writers' strike means there will be an immediate decline in quality |
| [22:17:24] | defaultro: | huh |
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| [22:17:30] | mchou: | that includes TV shows |
| [22:17:34] | cesman: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailer |
| [22:17:49] | defaultro: | what do you mean downgrade quality? |
| [22:18:14] | mchou: | the writers go on strike, movies/shows turn to shit |
| [22:18:41] | mchou: | no more smart dialog/plot twists, etc. |
| [22:18:46] | defaultro: | :( |
| [22:18:59] | mchou: | it's going to go back to reality tv |
| [22:19:19] | mchou: | might as well turn off the PVR |
| [22:20:04] | mchou: | like what happened between 1998 to about 2003 or so |
| [22:20:33] | mchou: | 4 to 5 years of extremely bad shows |
| [22:21:55] | defaultro: | wow, i hope it doesn't happen |
| [22:22:44] | mchou: | I think it's likely to happen |
| [22:22:58] | defaultro: | do you have a link which I can read about it? |
| [22:23:02] | mchou: | studios are dragging their feet and writers are hopping mad |
| [22:23:47] | mchou: | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14980841 |
| [22:24:48] | mchou: | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15479959 |
| [22:25:14] | mchou: | Halloween is gonna be interesting..... |
| [22:25:21] | defaultro: | ok |
| [22:28:52] | mchou: | Last week's CSI:NY was almost a case in point |
| [22:28:57] | ** tjcarter is gonna dress up as a working MythFrontend for Mac ** | |
| [22:29:06] | tjcarter: | nobody will believe I exist. ;) |
| [22:29:21] | mchou: | it was a one hour infomercial for "Second Life" |
| [22:30:23] | mchou: | I stopped watching CSI:Miami long ago because of poor acting from the lead (forgot his name) |
| [22:30:38] | tjcarter: | I considered dressing up as a tetris piece, but it's been done. |
| [22:31:02] | mchou: | now I've vowed to stop watch CSI:NY cause of their stupid informercial stunt |
| [22:31:51] | mchou: | Dexter and House MD only now |
| [22:33:01] | mchou: | yeah, David Caruso. Annoying as all get out |
| [22:34:15] | mchou: | tjcarter: why not dress up as Kayser Soze? |
| [22:34:47] | mchou: | tjcarter: then nobody will think you exist... |
| [22:35:12] | mchou: | tjcarter: walk with a gimpy leg |
| [22:45:47] | mchou: | wow, I've been digging for gold all day...... |
| [22:45:53] | mchou: | finally found some |
| [22:48:44] | tjcarter: | hahaha, hero must travel to a far off land for training, preparation, "and other worldly necessities." |
| [22:49:05] | tjcarter: | worldly necessities ftw! |
| [22:49:19] | mchou: | tjcarter: what are you referring to? |
| [22:49:33] | tjcarter: | description of an audio book |
| [22:49:58] | mchou: | which book? |
| [22:50:12] | tjcarter: | The Eragon sequel |
| [22:50:49] | tjcarter: | Methinks young Chris Paulini is growing up ;) |
| [22:50:54] | mchou: | never saw the movie |
| [22:51:15] | tjcarter: | It ... wasn't a bad movie. It wasn't a great movie |
| [22:51:16] | mchou: | the movie probably sucked |
| [22:51:35] | tjcarter: | The book is apparently impressive given the kid was 14 when he wrote it. |
| [22:51:48] | tjcarter: | But that's just the thing, it's impressive given he was 14 when he wrote it. |
| [22:51:59] | tjcarter: | I'm not 14. |
| [22:52:32] | mchou: | wow, interesting |
| [22:52:51] | mchou: | I didnt know eragon was self published by his parents |
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| [22:53:14] | mchou: | damn. |
| [22:53:36] | tjcarter: | I've been meaning to read it |
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| [22:58:14] | EnterUserName: | hey all |
| [22:58:19] | EnterUserName: | anyone here using ubuntu packages for mythtv |
| [22:58:24] | defaultro: | hmmm, wondering why when mplayer is called by myth, it shows 2 mplayer processes |
| [22:58:26] | EnterUserName: | with mytharchive i'm having som eproblems |
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| [22:58:54] | EnterUserName: | anyone? |
| [22:58:58] | EnterUserName: | im using fiesty.. |
| [23:01:01] | rushfan_: | Why does mythtv record all channels that I watch? |
| [23:01:08] | rushfan_: | Instead of ones I tell it to record w/ scheduling or the r key? |
| [23:01:22] | GreyFoxx: | rushfan_: That;s how you can pause/rewind "livetv" |
| [23:01:32] | GreyFoxx: | those recordings auto expire after 24 hours |
| [23:01:46] | rushfan_: | GreyFoxx: oh |
| [23:01:47] | EnterUserName: | err |
| [23:01:55] | EnterUserName: | stupid problemon my part.. permissions. |
| [23:02:01] | defaultro: | Hi Greyfoxx, is this normal what I am seeing. mplayer has 2 instance when called by mythfrontend |
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| [23:02:32] | defaultro: | http://www.nopaste.com/p/aof7Ee4Ew |
| [23:03:23] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: never heard of it doing it, and I don't use mplayer as my mythvideo player so I can't really say I've ever seen it myself |
| [23:05:30] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [23:13:15] | rushfan_: | Whats the best way to record vide off of a camcorder? mplayer? |
| [23:17:00] | cesman: | manual recording |
| [23:17:42] | cesman: | create a source, bind it to composite in of tuner and manually record |
| [23:17:54] | cesman: | been years since I've done it, search the archive for greater details |
| [23:18:09] | tcpsyn: | I never had a camcorder |
| [23:18:18] | mchou: | rushfan_: firewire |
| [23:19:04] | cesman: | only if your "camcorder" is a dv cam |
| [23:19:34] | mchou: | well, arent most camcorders now digital? |
| [23:19:55] | rushfan_: | Mines not a dv |
| [23:20:03] | mchou: | too bad |
| [23:20:09] | rushfan_: | I have some like ridiculous toshiba 100x optical professional cameras |
| [23:20:21] | rushfan_: | but I had to use this old thing this time around |
| [23:20:26] | tcpsyn: | I hr and I'm out of here for the week |
| [23:20:27] | tcpsyn: | oh yes |
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| [23:33:15] | darkwizard: | hey all |
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| [23:45:52] | cesman: | hello darkwizard |
| [23:47:29] | BULLE: | hmmm i fot kvart på det så |
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| [23:49:26] | jarle_: | BULLE: ok.... |
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| [23:53:46] | BULLE: | sorry wrong channel |
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