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Monday, October 1st, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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jedix:

they expire

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jedix:

don't worry about it

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lwizardl:

does mythtv support playback of full dvds onto the hd

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Hilikus:

got it

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Hilikus:

thanks

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robbins61:

I keep getting this error...localhost kernel: Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason a1 on CPU 0.

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robbins61:

anyone familiar with thta at all?

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p1mrx:

are you doing any overclocking?

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p1mrx:

that *might* indicate a hardware problem in the CPU, but I'm not sure

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robbins61:

p1mrx, no i'm not

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robbins61:

it just started

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robbins61:

and it only does it in linux, so i think it's an issue with the OS

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p1mrx:

well, if it did happen on windows, it probably wouldn't tell you

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robbins61:

true

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robbins61:

i mean, i don't notice any performace degradation in windows like i do in linux

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robbins61:

top shows xorg at 100% at times

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robbins61:

brb

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mzb_d800:

kormoc: it appears raid1 is also possible with LVM

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mzb_d800:

(s/raid1/mirror/)

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mzb_d800:

http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ . . . cvsroot=lvm2

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robbins61:

rebooted and it seems to be working better

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robbins61:

for now anyway

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robbins61:

i think it could have been a number of things that caused it

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robbins61:

i didn't notice it until my girlfriend logged into her account and then i logged back in

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TheLorax:

I'm about to buy a http://registration.hauppauge.com/webstore/ha . . . ct=pvr500mce but I don't know about NTSC or PAL. I'm in canada if it matters.

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kormoc:

NTSC and PAL are different formats

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kormoc:

you're likely NTSC

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kormoc:

but call your cable co if you want to double check

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TheLorax:

ok. thanks

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TheAsp:

canada is ntsc

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lwizardl:

yup just like dvds and games ntsc

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** xris really wishes that TMS would TYPE their data... an 8-character number takes up a LOT less space in a db if it's actually a number instead of a string of characters. **

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iamben:

any gentoo users know where i can get a real svn ebuild for mythtv? ie one that fetches the current svn always, not some predetermined revision

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kormoc:

iamben, there are none and likely won't be

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kormoc:

iamben, the fact that all the machines in your myth network need to be the same version makes the lack of that ability an issue with that sort of ebuild

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iamben:

but i've only got one machine and im addicted to bleeding edge =)

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kormoc:

iamben, you can always just bump the version yourself

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iamben:

yeah thats what ive been doing

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iamben:

i guess i just dont understand the subversion eclass, but i cant even figure out where it takes the $PV and passes it as a revision # to svn

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opello:

is there something built in to do what nuvexport did? or at least output the commercial-less mpeg without transcoding?

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kormoc:

opello, there's the 'lossless' mpeg2 cutting

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kormoc:

but it requires a mpeg2 to start

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opello:

that's what my pvr-500 gives me, i think

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kormoc:

yes, it is

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opello:

but the transcode menu in the ui didn't have a 'lossless' option

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kormoc:

check the wiki

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opello:

just high, medium, and low

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opello:

ok

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opello:

the --mpeg2 option for mythtranscode?

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opello:

so is the output file for that something other than the input file, so that it doesn't just overwrite it?

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opello:

nevermind :)

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lwizardl:

does mythtv support playback of full dvds from the hard drives?

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Dr_Willis:

lwizardl Hmm.. Ive played .vob files befor.

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Dr_Willis:

Theres a dvd rip plugin alsio I thought. (never used it)

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lwizardl:

Dr_Willis, yeah but from what i've been reading is it seems to rip them to like divx/xvid and i want to use the rips i made from dvd decrypter

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Dr_Willis:

i thought it ripped them to .iso. I thinki used it once.. and had a Huge 5gb ISO file. :)

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Dr_Willis:

but it may be configurable

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Dr_Willis:

Id perfer them to get ripped to xvid. :)

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lwizardl:

k because i don't have a mythtv box yet parts should be here around friday

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lwizardl:

and when i get to build my backend i want to rip all my dvds and store the raw files onto the backend for playback

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Dr_Willis:

you orderd a LOT of hard drives eh :)

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Aval0n-:

anyone else had the partial lock problem with QAM channels?

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lwizardl:

plan to have a few yes

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Aval0n-:

tunning to a channel on the same multiplex then over works

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Aval0n-:

but tuning the channel directly does not.

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jedix:

that's annoying

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Aval0n-:

what is jedix?

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Aval0n-:

my problem?

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jedix:

yeah

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Aval0n-:

I agree

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Aval0n-:

lol

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jedix:

hehe

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jedix:

good thing I have no kids

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Aval0n-:

eh?

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jedix:

well, then I'd have to use some sort of lock

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jedix:

that apparently does not work

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Aval0n-:

0_o

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Aval0n-:

I don't know if we are talking about the same thing :)

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jedix:

locking channels so kids don't turn on porno

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jedix:

right?

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jedix:

ah, whatever.. I don't care

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Aval0n-:

no

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Aval0n-:

hehehe

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Aval0n-:

locking onto digital channels to tune them

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jedix:

oh

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jedix:

that's even worse

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Aval0n-:

yeah

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Aval0n-:

lol

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Aval0n-:

even more annoying :)

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quink:

anyone here available to help me setup mysql so other mythtv systems can access the DB?

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kormoc:

quink, did you read the section in the myth manual that deals with doing that?

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quink:

yep

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quink:

i followed that exactly but this other system won't connect.

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defaultro:

hey folks, how can I tell mythfrontend to create a pidfile

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defaultro:

i don't know if it supports --pidfile like be

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TheAsp:

you could use a script... echo $$ >> $PIDFILE;exec mythfrontend

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defaultro:

ok

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TheAsp:

unless it's a script

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TheAsp:

like it is in ubuntu's packages

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defaultro:

i couldn;t remember what I use in the script i wrote in the office

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TheAsp:

don't know if that is standard or not

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defaultro:

I think i echoed $! something like this after running the command

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TheAsp:

that script should use exec though...

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themoebius:

what is the recommended tv capture card for mythtv?

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kdubya:

what kind of TV

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kdubya:

HD, analog, what

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themoebius:

analog i think

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themoebius:

just normal cable input

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kdubya:

usually people go with pvr150 or pvr500

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kdubya:

pvr150 is about $60

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kdubya:

500 is the same thing but has dual tuners and goes for about twice that

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Aval0n-:

yeah

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Aval0n-:

I have a pvr-500

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Aval0n-:

the only thing I'll say is, make sure you have damn good signal before you pull the trigger on the pvr-500

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Aval0n-:

it's got an internal splitter that's less than perfect

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Aval0n-:

I had to change out a bunch of cable/connecters to increase my signal strength just to get a half way decent picture on it

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Aval0n-:

I had ordered two pvr-150s but when my video card came it, it's heatsink was so fat it covered a pci slot, so i needed to return them for the 500

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kdubya:

Aval0n-, do you have it amplified before you split it?

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Aval0n-:

no

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Aval0n-:

the amplifier introduced diagonal lines

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Aval0n-:

how do you find out a an imdb number?

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defaultro:

hey folks, how come I have this but it still blanks out, Option "DPMS" "False"

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TheAsp:

dpms turns off the monitor, it doesn't control the blank screen

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defaultro:

i don't want the blanking to happen

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defaultro:

what should be the value?

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Hilikus:

hey guys, im trying to get mythtv to show my list of videos but it keeps saying that there are note

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Hilikus:

none*

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kormoc:

Aval0n-, you search imdb for it?

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Hilikus:

imdb?? i thought it was to play video files i had on my hdd

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Hilikus:

oh sorry

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Aval0n-:

kormoc yeah I found it thank you.

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kormoc:

Hilikus, did you run the video manager?

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Hilikus:

yes, it says no videos found

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kormoc:

Hilikus, did you setup the path to them in the settings?

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Hilikus:

yes

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kormoc:

does the myth user have permission to read/enter the dir?

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Hilikus:

yes, i can ls it

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kash:

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Ozymandias2:

is there anyway to get an indication of when the next release will be?

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kormoc:

no

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Ozymandias2:

thanks

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Ozymandias2:

i didnt know if there was a roadmap or anything — i wasnt finding one on the site

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Hilikus:

is there a way to show previews of the wideos under "watch videos" like the first frame or something?

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dj_ryan:

hola peeps

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dj_ryan:

i can't get mythdvd to work on ubuntu feisty

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dj_ryan:

weird message "Couldn't find a matching decoder for: //dev/dvd"

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dj_ryan:

the dvd mounts and all of that.

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Ozymandias2:

anyone know of any mythplugins that allows for FM radio capture?

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weltschmerz:

how in the heck do i do RSS-casts in MythTV? i installed mythstream but i see no indication that it's doing anything.

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Aval0n-:

anyone know what would cause just static for sound on an ati hdtv wonder

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Aval0n-:

for sound when tuned to HD chans

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weltschmerz:

hello?

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kormoc:

weltschmerz, what are you tring to do?

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Bernardo:

good mornoing

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Bernardo:

good morning

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PRoGRaMMeRQ:

question: I have a 1 input tv, and I want to be able to have my mythbox, and my n64 available. I also have external speakers. The easy solution would be to plug both inputs into a vcr. How do I coordinate from the remote of my mythtv system, turning on/off external speakers, turning on/off tv, and input selection.

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PRoGRaMMeRQ:

Not that I ~~need~~ to do it that way, just that it'd be cool to have one remote/interface for everything.

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peoriaguy:

I am thinking of buying a new HDTV. i have a Ati X800 XL with VGA DVI and S video out. Should i get a TV with dvi or One with HDMI and get a converter cable?

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Tanthrix:

PRoGRaMMeRQ: With an IR blaster you could in theory do all of that, I think.

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Tanthrix:

peoriaguy: Either will work just fine, though unless your card already works great, you might want to ditch the ATI card and go with nvidia.

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Tanthrix:

peoriaguy: You can get an nvidia card for $35 shipped that will do component / dvi HDTV out, and it will likely have many more features than your ATI card.

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Tanthrix:

peoriaguy: But with regards to your original question, HDMI is just DVI+Audio, and converter cables are cheap, so it really doesn't make much difference. The only problem is if you get a HDMI only TV that doesn't have auxillary audio inputs

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Tanthrix:

In which case if you use a converter cable, you won't be able to do audio through the TV. Most of the ones I have run into though have at least one HDMI port capable of doing RCA audio for these very situations

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Tanthrix:

So it's not a big issue, but definately something you'll want to look at in advance.

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juski:

ah monday monday monday

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xris:

time for me to write another big check to TMS...

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** juski hands xris another 2 zeros :P **

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xris:

heh

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xris:

it's kind of fun writing such big checks

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xris:

too bad it's not my own money

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clever:

lol

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xris:

I should probably use some of that money to buy stamps, though.. instead of using my own. heh

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xris:

ok, time to shut down. I should go to bed.

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juski:

bah there's no script to find orphans for 0.20

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juski:

should be easy enough to make a script to find orphaned files anyway

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juski:

jees this find orphans script could do some damage in the wrong hands

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juski:

esp. if like in my case it doesn't work properly

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juski:

that's what I get for hacking the hostname :)

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directhex|work:

reckon it would benefit the wiki at all to document geographically which types of service are available & therefore which kind of kit is appropriate?

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juski:

if you could be sure anybody would actually read it, yeah :)

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SiD3WiNDR:

lol

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SiD3WiNDR:

juski still has no confidence in users...

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SiD3WiNDR:

(or is realistic-

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SiD3WiNDR:

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SiD3WiNDR:

arrrrf, ")"

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juski:

only being realistic

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juski:

"muhhhhhhh I can't be bothered to read.. YOU tell me instead or I will thkweam and thkweam and thkweam until I am sick!"

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SiD3WiNDR:

you mean thick ;>

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juski:

those people are already thick :)

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juski:

oops – generalising again

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juski:

won't be long I'll be entering the 4th year of being a mythtv user

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bjweeks:

is it planned to merge mythtv-vid before 0.21 is released?

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juski:

it's merged already

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bjweeks:

I still see it in its own branch

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juski:

it's merged

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juski:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/14405

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bjweeks:

oh, that explains the different branch

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SiD3WiNDR:

*notgoogledit* how's the multiplerecordingpermultiplex coming along? :]

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bjweeks:

that is still in a brach last time I checked

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directhex|work:

so what was the -vid branch for?

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SiD3WiNDR:

*notgoogleditagain* what, actually, is mythtv-vid ? The changeset description isn't very explanative

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bjweeks:

from what I gathered it allows you to change some things about playing TV by how powerful the CPU is

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bjweeks:

/noob

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juski:

new video rendering methods

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jtheuer:

hi, what could this error mean?

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jtheuer:

2007-10–01 00:42:00.777 MythSocket(829db70:14): readStringList: Error, timeout (quick).

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jtheuer:

2007-10–01 00:42:00.796 RemoteEncoder::SendReceiveStringList(): No response.

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jtheuer:

2007-10–01 00:42:00.798 NVP, Error: Unknown error, exiting decoder

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juski:

might one day mean that owners of shitty ati vga cards can use mythtv without pegging out their cpu

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juski:

jtheuer: PASTEBIN>CA#

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directhex|work:

ps3 optimization? threaded h264 decoding?

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juski:

bah

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juski:

pastebin.ca !

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jtheuer:

juski: can I fix it?

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jtheuer:

ot should I change the videocard? ;-)

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juski:

jtheuer: try restarting the backend

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bjweeks:

readStringList doesn't seem like a function related to video cards ;)

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jtheuer:

juski, bjweeks it happens when I try to switch the channel in live-tv. and yes, only restarting the backend fixes it. but.. I want to switch the channel ;-)

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juski:

boo ducking hoo

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jtheuer:

http://pastebin.com/m60c61d

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juski:

maybe the channel doesn't really exist

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juski:

look in the backend log

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juski:

I mean you might have EPG data for it but myth might not be able to tune to it

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bjweeks:

if so that is a very poor way to fail

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juski:

that kind of thing can happen when you lazily configure an xmltv grabber

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juski:

bjweeks: if a user is lazy & says 'all' configuring tv_grab_uk_rt for example, the first run of mythfilldatabase will add a whole bunch of useless channels to the database

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juski:

myth will list them, they'll all have listing data but myth won't be able to tune to them#

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juski:

simple (lazy) user error

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bjweeks:

well, Myth isn't catching the error and throwing a meaningful error. that would be the best case

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juski:

screw that

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juski:

how is myth supposed to know which channels exist?

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juski:

the backend log is very revealing when that happens

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bjweeks:

it can't but it can catch the exception if one doesn't exist

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juski:

it can't

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juski:

it's not coded that way

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juski:

trying to spot stupid errors like that is pointless anyway

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bjweeks:

:/ I don't know much about the Myth codebase

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bjweeks:

by the way, does 0.21 improve on the TV navigation code? I can get it to crash quite easily by pressing too many buttons

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juski:

so don't!

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jtheuer:

hey, this COULD be the problem, but... bjweeks is right, its a poor way to fail ;-)

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juski:

jtheuer: it's also poor for users to be lazy & tell an epg grabber just to go ahead & add too many channels

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juski:

like I said, look in your backend log

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juski:

if the backend fails to tune to a channel, it'll fail to record it and thus the frontend will be unable to play it

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jtheuer:

juski, I don't want to blame anyone for his code he does in his freetime, I just wanted to point out that there is no connection for an enduser like me between the error and the cause.

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jtheuer:

ok, what is now the preferred way to throw out of the database all the channels and EPG stuff?

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bjweeks:

well, I still think it is a bug that should be fixed before 1.0 but by that time DRM will have taken over or the code base will be all new

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bjweeks:

haha

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bjweeks:

jtheuer: mythtv-setup

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jtheuer:

ok. bjweeks, I got EPG from nxtvepg, but I couldn't export the channels (thats why there are EPG data without channels, I guess) can you suggest another EPG source or way to get channels AND epg? mythfilldatabase --manual does nat work by the way. It does not aks for anything, yet :-(

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bjweeks:

well, you just lost me so I assume you're not in the states

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jtheuer:

right ;-)

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jtheuer:

thanks anyway, I'll go through the howtos again ;-)

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bjweeks:

does the internal EPG grabber not work?

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jtheuer:

i have analog tv, so I need an external one (as far as I understood)

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jarle_:

jtheuer: Can't you just use tv_grab_* ?

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jtheuer:

jarle_: I could, but does tv_grab_* also create channel with names?

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jarle_:

jtheuer: As far as I know you need to already have a list of channels....

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jtheuer:

jarle_: yes, that caused the problem with the EPG (according to you, hope it's true *g* – the channels don't fit to the epg

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jtheuer:

maybe you can give me a hint: waht is the identifier to combine a channel in the channellist with an EPG entry? I mean, the names might be different '(upper/lowercase)... is there a unique identifier?

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juski:

xmltvid#

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juski:

xmltvid

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laga:

rooaus: hey, you were also using a vga->scart cable with a radeon, right?

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rooaus:

laga: No, I think that may have been someone else... I can't recall who though :)

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laga:

rooaus: ok, thanks :)

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rooaus:

np

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coreyo:

has anyone tried out this remote? I'm wondering if it can be configured to work with mythtv or perhaps even LIRC (through the radio receiver). http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=204071223

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SiD3WiNDR:

coreyo: it'll have to work with lirc, not mythtv :]

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directhex|work:

it's the mote linuxmce uses

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directhex|work:

so one assumes it works in some capacity

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juski:

myth won't use its gyro BS stuff though

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coreyo:

SiD3WiNDR, I'm not so sure. I'm willing to bet that the RF signals come in as keycodes (i.e. keycodes that could be mapped to the mythtv fontend)

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juski:

coreyo: google probably knows

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coreyo:

juski, been down that route

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SiD3WiNDR:

coreyo: oh? my RF remote is configured via lirc

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coreyo:

SiD3WiNDR, what RF remote do you have?

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SiD3WiNDR:

ati x10 thingy rebranded by medion

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coreyo:

SiD3WiNDR, heh, come to think of it, I have one of those lying around. Used to have it in my linux car box.

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SiD3WiNDR:

:]

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coreyo:

SiD3WiNDR, have a Lola mp3 x10 remote lying around too. Is yours a serial or USB dongle?

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SiD3WiNDR:

usb

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coreyo:

SiD3WiNDR, I had forgotten all bout those little guys. Thanks for helping me remember.

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SiD3WiNDR:

:)

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coreyo:

SiD3WiNDR, at the time that I got them, there was no real linux support. Stopped keeping up with them years ago

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SiD3WiNDR:

I used it in the past and it worked niecly

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SiD3WiNDR:

*nicely

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SiD3WiNDR:

changed to a multimedia case thingy with embedded remote stuff so it's lying around

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SiD3WiNDR:

but planning on a bedroom frontend which will need it again ;)

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coreyo:

that gyration remote was $40 (after I created a 3rd google checkout account, that is!) I went ahead and ordered one so that I could play around with it. Of course, I can't control my lights with that remote ... I'll be gettinga gyration compact keyboard and mouse too. That keyboard is the most awesome keyboard I've ever seen, and the range is 30 ft ... which is something my crappy mikeysoft keyboard does not have. I can on

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coreyo:

ly hope that the gyration remote is as good.

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mikeones:

hello

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juski:

meh

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mikeones:

what would be the --enable-proc-opt for a CPU[AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ clocked at 1000.000 Mhz] Kernel[Linux 2.6.22.9-slh64-smp-1 x86_64]

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mikeones:

or will it auto detect?

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laga:

what would be the missing word in your sentence?

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mikeones:

?

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juski:

wrong answer :P

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mikeones:

cpu?

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mikeones:

laga: what am I missing?

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laga:

well, i have no clue what you want to know :)

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juski:

a clue?

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laga:

gah

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laga:

you're confusing me. both of you. :P

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juski:

this channel is no fun anymore

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juski:

and nobody has said 'please' today

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** laga just got lost in perl **

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mikeones:

laga: nm, this is what I was looking for --arch=ARCH

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laga:

i think there's a thread regarding the meaning of --enable-proc-opt on mythtv-dev

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juski:

!trout Maltese-Assembly-Line-Droids idiot

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** MythLogBot slaps Maltese-Assembly-Line-Droids with a idiot trout on behalf of juski... **

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mikeones:

./configure --arch=x86_64

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mikeones:

ERROR: CPU specific ./configure options failed compile test

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mikeones:

Removing CPU specific compilation options. (-mcpu=x86_64 )

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laga:

duh

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mikeones:

duh?

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laga:

mikeones: you need to read up on gcc and how it handles -mcpu/-march

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laga:

mikeones: the system architecture is detected automagically for you (i386/x86_64)

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mikeones:

thanks

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laga:

i wonder if there's still need to optimize on x86_64?

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laga:

i'd assume many optimizations are enabled by default because the i386 legacy is mostly gone

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jonK:

anyone around?

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laga:

no

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jonK:

something with the cx88 dvb module is going crazy dd is runnning, and syslogd is just spewing the following into the syslog: \

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jonK:

Oct 1 09:24:42 oscar kernel: [ 635.276836] cx88[0]: irq pci [0xfc04] ts risc_rd_err* risc_wr_err* brdg_err* src_dma_err* dst_dma_err* ipb_dma_err*

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jonK:

syslog is at 704 mb and growing

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jonK:

I'm unsure where to start

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juski:

oo nice! one of the recordings I accidentally deleted earlier (bad playlist operation) was in the middle of a job & didn't get deleted :)

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juski:

jonK: wtf does that have to do with mythtv?

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jonK:

tangential at best. Nevertheless, I do need some help

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laga:

configure your system logger to rotate the log files on a certain limit is reached :)

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laga:

or talk to the developer of the driver.

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** Hoxzer has nice script to upload oldlogs to gmail ^^ **

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jonK:

Nice idea, I was thinking just redirect syslogd and klogd to /dev/null until I figure it out. Just need some help figuring it out. so the issue is with the driver? (cx88 runs the pchd3000 card)

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juski:

never ceases to amaze me just how little ducking work our quality assurance dept will do if they can get away with it!

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juski:

I think I need to go home before I kill somebody

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laga:

juski: just think of how the doggy will be happy when you return home

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juski:

just think how happy I'll be that I have to take him for a walk cos my wife won't be back for another 2 & a half hours

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juski:

AGAIN

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Cyrexion:

Hey guys. My HD Myth Recordings play with video and audio out of sync, but xine plays them fine. Any ideas on how this can be fixed?

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laga:

ooh, it's so cute how you love your dog

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juski:

oh nice. Our production line has once again succeeded in giving us machines made up with board that haven't seen a JTAG programmer :-\

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juski:

laga: not MY dog :)

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laga:

juski: heh

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juski:

the balance of walkies is ridiculously out of step now

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laga:

it's good for you. :>

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juski:

that's NOT the point

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** laga grins **

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juski:

besides, he needs to be trained to go for a walk properly. none of this taking me for a walk crap

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juski:

read some good tips for that today

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** juski goes home. walkies beats being at work whatever **

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Cyrexion:

Strange thing is, the playback speed is at 1x, yet the video plays faster than the audio (audio sounds normal, not in "chipmunk" mode). The recording is 1hr in length, yet runs in 36 min, which makes me think some kind of timeshift enabled, but I'm not sure.

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laga:

Cyrexion: odd

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laga:

Cyrexion: make sure the seektable is correct

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directhex|work:

is there some way i could emulate a dvb device well enough to take a mythtv-setup screenshot?

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laga:

directhex|work: google images? or ask juski, i think he created screenshots a while back

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Dibblah:

directhex|work: Or use the iptv (or something) capture card.

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Dibblah:

Something allows you to do a file backed capture thing.

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Dibblah:

Unfortunately, I can't remember which capture card type it is :(

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Dibblah:

Just try specifying a valid mpeg for them all.

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|Torg|:

is there a way to set the logs not to record ffmepg errors?

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directhex|work:

is manually setting any of http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/images/chaned_dvb.jpg still needed in this day & age?

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laga:

directhex|work: it looks different nowadays :)

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laga:

directhex|work: nothing in the wiki?

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sphery:

clever: You mentioned having 2 channel 10's--one with no data. Did you fix that?

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sphery:

clever: If not, the best fix is http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034

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clever:

i deleted the channels thru mythweb

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clever:

dont watch channel 10 anyway

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clever:

i think the id/name of several groups of channels changed when i switched sources

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sphery:

clever: Quite likely it, so deleting the individual channel should work. As long as you don't end up with a "hidden" video source or something, you're good.

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clever:

it was mostly french channels and music channels

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clever:

neither of which i use

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Aval0n-:

guys when you go to rip a DVD I see for audio it has 6ch ac3 en, and then an option for AC3 audio underneath

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AndyCap:

xris: hehe, can't break the old system. :)

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Aval0n-:

if I leave the AC3 unchecked will it still copy that 6ch ac3 track since that is what is selected?

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sphery:

Aval0n-: AIUI, if you select a perfect copy (i.e. ISO rip), it copies everything regardless of checkboxes.

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sphery:

Aval0n-: If you instead transcode the DVD, the checkbox tells it to transcode the audio to AC-3.

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sphery:

TTBOMK, transcoding is done for anything other than perfect quality.

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sphery:

Not that I've ever done this because I don't have a license for CSS...

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mikeones:

I can not hear sound in my recordings today. pvr350 running svn trunk. this is from my logs http://pastebin.com/d4baf4179

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mikeones:

does this mean anything?

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mikeones:

#

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mikeones:

2007-10–01 12:25:10.654 NVP: Disabling Audio, params(-1,-1,-1)

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mikeones:

#

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mikeones:

2007-10–01 12:25:10.655 NVP: Disabling Audio, params(0,-1,-1)

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sphery:

mikeones: Change your recording profile to use 48kHz audio.

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mikeones:

ok sphery, any reson why it would stop now?

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sphery:

mikeones: There's probably more to it than that, but that's the first problem you have. Myth is still trying to do the right thing.

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sphery:

Chances are, though, you've upgraded your kernel/ivtv kernel modules and need to reconfigure stuff.

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sphery:

Once fixing the recording profile, you'll know that misconfiguration is not causing the issue, so you can move on to the next. :)

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lwizardl:

hi

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sphery:

hi

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mikeones:

sphery: I have upgraded the kernel and rebuilt ivtv from source. Anywhere else to look?

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sphery:

mikeones: 2.6.22? I've heard that people upgrading to that kernel (and its ivtv) have had issues.

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sphery:

If so, #ivtv (or whatever) or #gentoo-mythtv (or whatever) is probably a good place to start

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mikeones:

I went from 2.6.22.5 to 2.6.22.9

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sphery:

I don't know any specifics. I haven't been keeping up with ivtv since I started my plan to move to all HDTV a couple of years ago.

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sphery:

Chances are something changed that requires you to change config or to patch Myth (but I'm just guessing, now).

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mikeones:

thanks sphery, I will look around

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sphery:

good luck. Sorry I'

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sphery:

m not any help

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mikeones:

maybe there is a confilct if I am building from scratch?

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mikeones:

vtv stable version 1.0.2 released (ChangeLog). This release is for kernels >= 2.6.22. This release does NOT contain the ivtv driver proper, as that is now part of kernel 2.6.22. It does contain test tools, utilities and the ivtv-fb and saa717x drivers.

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sphery:

mikeones: You definitely want to use the ivtv kernel module in the 2.6.22 kernel if you're using the 2.6.22 kernel.

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sphery:

If you built the right version of the ivtv utils, you should be OK.

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alexp789:

hi all, has anyone on at the moment had any luck getting the Nova-T 500 PCI stable? It's a bit flakey on my system.......

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Niklas_E:

is there any easy way to install mythburn?

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alexp789:

Niklas, for what its worth have you tried mytharchive... Just started using it last week, and was impressed with how well it burnt dvd's.....

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Niklas_E:

okey

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Niklas_E:

well check that out

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Lunar_Lamp:

I have a weird issue with my sound levels getting reset down to ~70% whenever I exit from watching TV, or use buttons like pausing/rw/ffwd live TV. I have to use alsamixer via a ssh terminal to restore it. I've tried using alsactl store – but to no avail. Anyone else had a simiar issue?

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mikeones:

sphery: thanks man. It was a driver confilct.

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lwizardl:

I have a hard drive with dvds stored from dvd decryptor. would mythtv be able to play these ?

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bradd:

anyone get qt3 to compile on mac x 10.5?

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bsdfox__:

anyone randomly get skip-forwards in their videos (I'm getting them after removing all the flagged commercials, so it's not like it's flagged as a commercial...) sometimes 2 minutes, 4minutes, sometimes 10 minutes.. really weird and annoying (and I can skip back and have it happen again)

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Aval0n-:

sphery thanks for your info up there.

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Aval0n-:

now i wish there was an easy way to toggle on and off ac3 passthrough

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Aval0n-:

I could just leave it on all the time and then turn the receiver on when I watch videos..

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Aval0n-:

which seems like the most probably answer right now, but if my wife goes to them when she just has the TV on, she won't understand why she just gettings static pops

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bsdfox__:

Aval0n-: you could probably write a simple script to do it and bind a key on the remote to it

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Toxicity999:

Woot, just ordered a nice MCE Remote. I would have just build my own Receiver, but I have no good remotes around anyway, so why not blow 30 on a remote/receiver combo.

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sphery:

bsdfox__: I've seen something like that when the recordings were damaged (i.e. bad signal on my HDTV capture cards).

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Anduin:

lwizardl: Yes

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lwizardl:

ok with support for all options like audio formats & subtitles?

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lwizardl:

because I want my backend to store all my dvds onto the hd

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Anduin:

and menus, etc

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lwizardl:

cool thanks

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lwizardl:

my parts for my machine will be here friday supposedly the ups site says

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Anduin:

It only takes longer if you keep looking

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lwizardl:

yeah i just have bad luck with ups

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lwizardl:

i've never had a problem with fedex

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roelf:

hello everybody

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laga:

hi

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roelf:

i have a Techno trend s-1500 the card is working correct but the remote controle doesn't

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roelf:

the device of the remote controle is avalible at /dev/input/event3

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roelf:

i have added in /etc/conf.d/lircd | LIRCD_OPTS="-d /dev/input/event3"

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roelf:

when i do irw i can't get a signal from the remote controle

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Cyrexion:

does anyone know how to configure mythtv so my pchdtv-hd5500 card can record through its s-video input ?

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Cyrexion:

at the moment, it works beautifully capturing HD OTA broadcasts, but I would also like for it to act as a vcr, capturing video from my DiSH Receiver.

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bsdfox__:

sphery: hmm my recordings look fine :\

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bsdfox__:

also, I've started noticing the slow moving "scan lines" (I think that's what they're called) .. they slowly move from the bottom of the screen to the top. I know they're on the actual recordings cause they're the same on 3 different frontend machines. is there any filter I can use to get rid of these or any way to eliminate them on the recordings? my video looks very good besides these lines (which aren't really

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bsdfox__:

noticable except when the screen is dark)

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laga:

bsdfox__: might be ground hum?

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bsdfox__:

?

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Henkie:

one tuner of mine doesnt do auto-transcode, where can i set this?

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bsdfox__:

any tips?

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Henkie:

the auto default transcode-box is checked

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juski:

gah. doggy isn't very well :(

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laga:

:/

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juski:

seems like a slight stomach upset, so we've got to be mr & mrs nasty & not feed him til tomorrow

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juski:

then progress feeding a little bit at a time. shouldn't be anything nasty

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lwizardl:

what is qam used for ? dvb satellite?

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Cyrexion:

does anyone know where the image used for Bootsplash is located?

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juski:

lwizardl: qam is generally used to refer to digital cable in the USA, but it's a modulation scheme widely used for terrestrial (DVB-T) and satellite (DVB-S) too

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gr8nash_work:

can someone tell me how to take back my registerd nick.. it says it already in use

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Plugh:

/msg nickserv ghost <userid> <password>

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Plugh:

IIRC

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gr8nash:

YEAH

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gr8nash:

thanks!

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Plugh:

np

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Plugh:

Can someone point me to where the de-interlacing playback option is in MythTV (svn version). I know i've seen it before but I can't seem to find it now.

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juski:

playback profiles, wherever they are...

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Plugh:

So, mythfrontend, TV Settings, Playback...

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gbee:

3rd page, select "edit" for the profile that is most likely to be used

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gbee:

yes that whole thing sucks and yes it will change before 0.21 is released

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Plugh:

Page 3 is "Current Video Playback Profile"

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Plugh:

Oh. its the Primary Deinterlacer option? I'll set it to None.

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Plugh:

I thought I had seen an option re: de-interlacing somewhere else before. I suppose it may have moved since then.

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juski:

probably tv playback settings ;)

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juski:

oh yeah baby! I've recovered DJ Yoda on Radio 1 last night doing 'the A-Z of Radio One' :D

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Plugh:

ok, thanks. That menu change seems to have helped.

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Cyrexion:

when transcoding takes place, does it take into account the cutlist and omit video portions as necessary?

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Cyrexion:

anyone alive ?

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kormoc_:

no, we're all zombies

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juski:

nah

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Cyrexion:

ahh, ok

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Cyrexion:

is there a way to get a progress on what is being transcoded in mythtv?

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Juski_deceased:

the status page – job view

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kormoc:

All we want to do is eat your brains. We're not unreasonable, I mean, no one's gonna eat your eyes...

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laga:

except for the crows maybe

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laga:

but they all use MCE

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Juski_deceased:

mythtv's to orangey for crows

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Cyrexion:

thanks, Juski_deceased

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Cyrexion:

is there some kind of flag set in mythtv to indicate what video / recording is currently playing?

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bsdfox__:

you know how using the built-in transcoder will show you the percentage and the framerate? is there any way to pass that info from a user job?

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Sesse:

hi. I've set up so I can play multicast in vlc (udp://@224.17.42.1 works fine), and then tried creating an iptv input card with an .m3u file with lines like "udp://224.17.42.1:1234". yet, mythtv only gives "signal: 0%" and doesn't appear to join the multicast group. any ideas?

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Sesse:

mythtv svn as of today

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gbee:

cyrexion: recordings yes, the inuseprograms table – although beware it also marks them inuse when being viewed in the preview window

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janneg:

gbee: does the live preview use the same identifier?

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gbee:

an inuse program will have the FL_INUSEPLAYING or FL_INUSERECORDING flag in the inusemap (and iconmap)

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gbee:

janneg: just checked, no it uses "preview player" instead of "player" – so you can distinguish between them that way

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Cyrexion:

I see there is a corrspondence between the chanid of 'inuseprograms' and 'recorded', but it's not unique enough to identify the particular file being played back.

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zntneo:

crap, i've messed up my nuvexport

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zntneo:

fileparse(): need a valid pathname at /usr/bin/nuvexport line 33

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zntneo:

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/nuvexport line 33.

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zntneo:

thats whati get anyone have any idea why?

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gbee:

cyrexion: we use both chanid and starttime as a combined unique identifier

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bsdfox__:

zntneo: fix your /etc/nuvexportrc

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gbee:

cyrexion: SELECT title, recusage FROM inuseprograms i, recorded r WHERE r.chanid=i.chanid AND r.starttime=i.starttime;

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zntneo:

in nuvexport what does "Default to export to the current directory" mean?

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gbee:

nothing in English

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zntneo:

its the path variable

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janneg:

gbee: I would like to switch to a recordedid for recordings. that would save 6 bytes per recordedseek entry

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Cyrexion:

gbee, understood. thanks so much

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zntneo:

what should the path varible be set to in the nuvexport?

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Cyrexion:

SELECT title, recusage FROM inuseprograms i, recorded r WHERE r.chanid=i.chanid AND r.starttime=i.starttime AND i.recusage='player';

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gbee:

janneg: makes sense, also avoids the whole confusion over progstart & starttime which exists between several tables

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Rommie:

Hey all. Question for ya – is there a way to allow multiple clients to view the same video feed, if you only have a single input?

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sphery:

janneg: Also would work well with Captain_Murdoch's changes to allow multiple different copies of recordings (i.e. different transcoded versions).

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sphery:

(Don't know how he was handling that in his patch.)

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gbee:

Rommie: yep, that's one of the core features/abilities of mythtv – all recordings can be viewed from multiple machines, livetv is just another recording so other frontends can watch it (just not control it)

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zntneo:

anyone know what i sould set my path variable in nuvexport to?

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Rommie:

gbee: So just record it, and then on the clients go under recordings and view it?

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gbee:

Roomie: yep

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Rommie:

Neat. Any ideas how many clients I can expect to get out of a gigabit link?

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gbee:

crap, kitten has been in a fight, poor thing has a bleeding cut on her nose

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laga:

poor kitteh :(

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janneg:

sphery: me neither but I would guess that he has moved the filename(s) to another table

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janneg:

and since the recordedseek table holds file specific data it has probably already a fileid

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zntneo:

anyone mind showing me their nuvexportrc file?

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gbee:

Rommie: depends on the source (bitrate) of the recording, taking the top bitrate DVB channel here in the UK as a guide (avg 4.5 Mbps) – well you can do the maths

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Rommie:

gbee: SD video feed (composite, so I'm guessing 480p or lower)

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Rommie:

gbee: But as long as I can get 4 clients (plus one local), I'm happy :)

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gbee:

Rommie: easily

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zntneo:

if i posted my nuvexportrc to a pastbin could someone look at it to see whats wrong?

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Sesse:

hmf. it looks like my multicast issues are related to the fact that the kernel doesn't understand what interface to enable multicast on when imr_address=IPADDR_ANY.

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Rommie:

gbee: Thanks :)

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Sesse:

wonder if I can either a) teach the kernel which interface to use, or b) teach mythtv my local address

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zntneo:

dangn't now i can't get mythexport to work

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jedix:

is there a way to change the video playback command from the video list screen?

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Anduin:

jedix: No, only in the settings page

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jedix:

k, thanks

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zntneo:

in user jobs if i do "%DIR%'"%FILE%" does that equal the dir/thefilename?

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Sesse:

wow

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Sesse:

it works

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Sesse:

just had to meddle with the routing table

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Sesse:

now I just need to figure out how to get the aspect right again... seems to have changed since 0.20.2

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tank-man:

zntneo, you got an extra '

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Sesse:

I guess there's no good summary of how the widescreen aspect stuff changed from 0.20.2 to svn?

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zntneo:

oh i need ' instead of "?

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Cardoe:

where in the DB is the tuner priority stored?

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Cardoe:

hey j-rod

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j-rod:

hey Cardoe

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Cardoe:

how goes the lirc integration?

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j-rod:

pretty good

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zntneo:

am i right tank?

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j-rod:

got a ton of checkpatch cleanups into upstream lirc now

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j-rod:

next up is some actual code review, and/or writing the lirc cvs to kernel git tree conversion scripts

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zntneo:

what order does user jobs go in?

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jhatch:

Hey j-rod. :)

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j-rod:

damn, I can't hide, can I? ;)

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tank-man:

zntneo, i ment you need a ", not a '

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jhatch:

Dude... I see you... :)

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zntneo:

so i need 4? or 3?

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j-rod:

I'm running away in 3 minutes, or my wife will yell at me

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jhatch:

You late for dinner?

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tank-man:

you need 2 or 4, depending on what input your user job is expecting

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zntneo:

my user job is an nuvexport --infile the above

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JoeyJoeJo:

on my local frontend my recordings show up as being hours longer than they really are.. however, on my laptop's frontend they show up normally.. why would cause this?

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Cardoe:

j-rod: very cool

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tank-man:

maybe that "%DIR%/%FILE%" or "%DIR%" "%FILE%"

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j-rod:

oops, I'm already running late... :)

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zntneo:

ok how do i make nuvexport export to a specfic path?

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tank-man:

i dont know

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bsdfox__:

zntneo: I told you before, edit /etc/nuvexportrc

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zntneo:

what specfic variable do i need to edit?

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bsdfox__:

the one about the path

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zntneo:

well in my command i have a --path set

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blackest:

if X gets updated is it likely xorg.conf will get overwritten ?

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laga:

depends.

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Cardoe:

where in the DB is the tuner priority stored, anyone remember?

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Cardoe:

I got it never mind

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blackest:

remember i spent ages getting tv out working its now booted up saying x is borked

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laga:

blackest: on ubuntu gutsy?

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blackest:

yep

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blackest:

it could be a kernel update

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bsdfox__:

probably reinstall the nvidia driver

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blackest:

i had to compile ati 6.6.3

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bsdfox__:

assuming you're using nvidia

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bsdfox__:

oh ati :( sorry

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blackest:

nah it was ati and a real pig at that

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AndyCap:

Hm, anyone have some hints on how to discover FEC, transmission_mode, guard_interval etc for dvb-t?

[21:52:24]

blackest:

where are you

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laga:

blackest: there#s bullet proof X which overwrites your X config if X breaks in an attempt to make it work again

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blackest:

it looks about right thou laga

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blackest:

would a kernel change break things

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floppyears:

hi guys, right now I have 2 machines using mythtv. 1 of them is a backend/frontend with 2 tuners 500GB hd, 1gb of ram

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floppyears:

the other machine is just a frotend with 256mb of ram, and 1 cheap leadteak tuner that has a remote control

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floppyears:

can the 2nd machine that has the cheap leadtek tuner be a 2nd backend/frontend ?

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floppyears:

I would only use the slave backend to record a program if the other 2 tuners are busy

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floppyears:

can this machine handle sd tv recording ?

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Rommie:

Is there any easy way I could overlay some text on top of a channel? So that someone sitting at the master system can enter it in, and it'll appear, say, in the bottom corner of any clients watching that channel?

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blackest:

floppyears if its a frame buffer card its not worth it

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floppyears:

blackest: it doesn't have hardware encoding, the 2 tuners in the main backend are hauppage though

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laga:

Rommie: yes, check mythtvosd

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floppyears:

it's just that sometimes there's a 3rd show that needs to be taped at the same time, but this doesn't happen often

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bsdfox__:

floppyears: how fast is the cpu in the frontend? also you'll want more ram in the frontend than backend for a setup like that

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floppyears:

amd 1800+

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Rommie:

laga: Thanks :)

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bsdfox__:

floppyears: that's right around the mark where it'll work decent

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bsdfox__:

you should be able to get it running ok

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blackest:

floppyears i don't know the card but if its a frame grabber you have the audio sync problem since what you watch isnt live its got a delay on it if the tv card audio is using a lead into your audio card its going to be difficult

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floppyears:

I don't watch livetv and I will only use that leadteak tuner for recording a show when the 2 hauppage cards are busy

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Rommie:

laga: Do you know where'd I'd find the template files it comes with?

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floppyears:

so how hard or complicated is the setup process for a slave backend ?

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laga:

Rommie: no, sorry

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blackest:

its not hard to do a slave backend

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blackest:

its just a case really of pointing to the master backend database and using your existing password and configuring the new card

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floppyears:

cool thanks

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floppyears:

also, I read the master backend can wakeup the slave backend to record something

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floppyears:

how does that work ?

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floppyears:

I really don't want to have 2 machines on all the time with mythtv

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blackest:

wake on lan

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blackest:

providing its supported on the slave off course i've a compaq slave unfortunately it doesnt support wake on lan

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floppyears:

so can the 2nd slave backend be completely turned off and it can be turned on by the master backend using wake on lan ?

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bsdfox__:

floppyears: yeah if it supports wol

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floppyears:

oh, cool

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bsdfox__:

your nic needs to support it too and have the cable plugged in

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bsdfox__:

wol is pretty easy to setup though

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floppyears:

yeah, my old computer supports that :)

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blackest:

The biggest headache is liable to be your tv card

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JoeyJoeJo:

on my local frontend my recordings show up as being hours longer than they really are.. however, on my laptop's frontend they show up normally.. why would cause this?

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Rommie:

Is it possible in the osd.xml file to specify how long a notification should stay up?

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GreyFoxx:

Rommie: No

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GreyFoxx:

It's configured in tyhe frontend setup menus

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Rommie:

Ok, thats workable

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Rommie:

I'm sure what I'm doing is utterly and horrible wrong, but its kinda need that myth is able to do it :)

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Rommie:

neat&

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Rommie:

neat*

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GreyFoxx:

What are you doing ?

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floppyears:

what does mythshutdown really do ?

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Rommie:

GreyFoxx: I'm gonna have a camera in a gym, outputting the video of a live volleyball game to a mythtv box – I'll then have a bunch of clients on the local network, in various viewing areas (a theater, a lounge, etc), showing the video feed live, with the score on the top using mythtvosd :)

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GreyFoxx:

cool :)

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Rommie:

Hopefully :)

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Rommie:

It would be nice if myth had an option to turn of the OSD when changing channels and to fade between channels, so I could do multicam, but I was told thats not possible...

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Rommie:

GreyFoxx: Is there way to use different fonts in the osd.xml file? Or are you limited to just the default font?

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GreyFoxx:

the osd.xml can define what font gets used for each item onscreen

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GreyFoxx:

so you can always customize one if you want

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Rommie:

Neat, now I just need to find a font I like :)

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Rommie:

Odd... the color declaration doesn't seem to be working. #FF0000 should be red, but its showing as black -as is everything else

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Hilikus:

hey guys

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Hilikus:

how do i confirue channels if im using a cable OTB (i think thats what its called)

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Rommie:

Set top box?

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Hilikus:

yes

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Hilikus:

STB?

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Hilikus:

cable desclambler, whatever

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Hilikus:

discrambler

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Rommie:

Descrambler.

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Hilikus:

thats it

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Rommie:

But I've never worked with one, so I can't be of much service – GreyFoxx would likely know...

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Hilikus:

how do i confirue the channel using one of those?

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blackest:

hilikus how are you connecting it

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Hilikus:

what?

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blackest:

your stb to the pc whats the connecion

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Hilikus:

the stb to mythtv?

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blackest:

connection

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blackest:

yes

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Hilikus:

s-video

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Hilikus:

it works already, its just confiruing the name of the channels and all that

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blackest:

ok into a tv card ? what type

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Hilikus:

i actually have a xmltv file with all the info

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Hilikus:

hauppage 150

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blackest:

how are you doing the channel change

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Hilikus:

i need to configure that too, lirc is already running

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Hilikus:

but i dont know how to actually tell it, this are the codes of my STB

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Hilikus:

these*

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blackest:

well i can tell you roughly what i did

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Hilikus:

or point me to a guide, i cant find one

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blackest:

you have to setup a tvguide even if its not got any data source and associate the input on the tvcard with it

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Hilikus:

how do i set the tv guide

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blackest:

if you scan for channels it'll make a load of channels corresponding with the names of the channels your tuner can pick up you might get 150 or so

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Hilikus:

yes but thats like tuner channels no?

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blackest:

they are not real channels coz its the svhs input

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blackest:

it doesnt matter since svhs doesnt change channels

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Hilikus:

ok, but i do still need the list

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blackest:

however each channel can be associated with a command to lirc to change channel with an irblaster

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Hilikus:

ok, that i need to do too, but first i guess just name the channels

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Hilikus:

how do i name them??

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blackest:

it will name them for you but you can fiddle with the names in the database using phpmyadmin

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blackest:

i use a hauppauge with a sat box and its easiest just to set what i want to see on the sat box and set up a custom record schedule in mythtv

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blackest:

lirc wouldnt change the channels on my sat box so i kinda gave up...

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dan__:

okay, so I installed mythweb and mythmusic and when I try to access my music I get a 403 error, anyone know how to fix that?

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Hilikus:

ok

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blackest:

anyway thats the quick and dirty way i did it :)

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Cyrexion:

does anyone have the following setup (or something like it) and it works? — DiSH Receiver connected to pcHDTV card via S-Video

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dan__:

my music directory is a symlink linking to a folder in my home directory, the permissions are set the same as the recording directory (which works), anyone have any clue about this?

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iamben:

dan__: apache is probably running as a different user than mythbackend, the same permissions may not be correct

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iamben:

i have an issue of my own: i have mythfrontend controlling my mixers, i have them set at 100/50 master/pcm... however, it seems to also have it set with BOTH of those channels muted, so every time i start a new playback or change the volume at all, they go to muted

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iamben:

mythvideo and live tv do not have this problem, only watching recordings

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dan__:

iamben: why would that make the recordings appear over the web but not the music tho?

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Hilikus:

whats the lineup id?

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Hilikus:

in mythfilldatabase

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bsdfox__:

anyone got advice on removing false commercial detection?

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bsdfox__:

seems that all my commercials get detected but I also get skips randomly during the actual shows

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bsdfox__:

strangest thing is that I'm running a user job that removes commercials and it doesn't remove these sections (but they are still detected as commercials) it's messed up :(

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dablitz:

hello channel. i was wondering if there is a way I can use ssh commandline to change a channel in myth

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GreyFoxx:

There is a telnet interface to the frontend

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GreyFoxx:

you could use that

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dablitz:

ok I will google telnet mythfrontend

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dablitz:

thanks

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iamben:

anyone got a link to that 1080p kill bill x264 clip for testing?

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iamben:

i think it was from bbc

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Inssomniak:

what would cause this: 2007-10–01 19:05:45.714 Event socket closed. No connection to the backend., it happens randomly and frontend never tries to reconnect, but BE is running fine

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AndyCap:

hmm, dvb apps on linux isn't really up to h.264 dvb-t yet

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AndyCap:

vlc got closest with actually identifying a video scream etc before crashing with a segfault

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Inssomniak:

2007-10–01 19:07:45.692 DB Error (Error inserting channel lock):

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Inssomniak:

Duplicate entry '2615-0–1' for key 1

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Inssomniak:

the backend shows these errors right at the same time the frontend pukes

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keith4:

I just installed a pcHDTV5500... I have no idea what the next step is. any ideas?

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Tanthrix:

iamben: http://x264.nl/h.264.samples/force.php?file=./bbc.hd.ts

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iamben:

Tanthrix: thank you sir

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Tanthrix:

No prob.

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Tanthrix:

That might be a different one actually – get rid of everything after samples/ to see the other downloads

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