| Saturday, September 8th, 2007, 00:00 UTC | ||
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| [00:00:14] | keith4: | help help mythtv forgot about all of my recordings |
| [00:01:35] | Yahooadam: | .... |
| [00:01:41] | Yahooadam: | is the mysql database still running ? |
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| [00:02:18] | keith4: | yes |
| [00:02:27] | keith4: | no database erros in mythweb |
| [00:02:31] | keith4: | errors, either |
| [00:03:46] | keith4: | ah |
| [00:03:47] | keith4: | hmm |
| [00:03:48] | keith4: | #145 – Table './mythconverg/recorded' is marked as crashed and should be repaired |
| [00:04:26] | mkrufky: | Kazan: ping? |
| [00:04:36] | mkrufky: | Kazan: do you have an ATSC110 ? |
| [00:05:46] | Kazan: | yes |
| [00:07:13] | Kazan: | why? |
| [00:07:38] | mkrufky: | would you run a test for me? |
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| [00:08:10] | keith4: | how do i repair a crashed database? (isn't mysql supposed to do that passively?) |
| [00:08:10] | mkrufky: | i made some changes, that will allow you to specify the tuner rf input via a modprobe option |
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| [00:10:08] | Kazan: | mkrufky: it's on my live machine |
| [00:10:12] | mkrufky: | Kazan: The code is here: http://linuxtv.org/hg/~mkrufky/dvb-pll |
| [00:10:14] | Kazan: | and it has a recording scheduled soon |
| [00:10:14] | mkrufky: | oh |
| [00:10:24] | mkrufky: | ok, you dont have to do it right now |
| [00:10:36] | ** Kazan would rather not run expirimental code on his test machine ** | |
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| [00:10:45] | Kazan: | do you know the Hauppauge HVR-1800 has linux support? |
| [00:10:52] | mkrufky: | ok, no problem... im sure somebody on the list will test it |
| [00:11:09] | mkrufky: | yes. hvr1800 is supported now, in the tree in the link above :-) |
| [00:11:20] | mkrufky: | it will be in 2.6.24 |
| [00:11:30] | Kazan: | cool |
| [00:11:31] | mkrufky: | (yes, i said 2.6.24 ... NOT 2.6.23) |
| [00:11:44] | Kazan: | i assume it's analog part is just a pvr150 |
| [00:11:47] | Kazan: | what chipset is in the digital |
| [00:11:51] | mkrufky: | nope, completely different |
| [00:11:56] | Kazan: | it's not an ivtv? |
| [00:12:00] | mkrufky: | not at all |
| [00:12:04] | mkrufky: | it's all new hardware |
| [00:12:11] | Kazan: | really.. what they replace it with? |
| [00:12:22] | mkrufky: | we got the driver merged into the official v4l / dvb tree just a few days ago |
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| [00:12:42] | mkrufky: | ok, it's using the cx23885 PCIe bridge |
| [00:12:55] | mkrufky: | the pvr150, uses the cx23416 combo bridge+mpeg encoder |
| [00:13:07] | mkrufky: | the hvr1800, has a cx23417 as the encoder |
| [00:13:22] | mkrufky: | also, the tuners are all new |
| [00:13:26] | Kazan: | that's the ivtv17 encoder isn't it? |
| [00:13:40] | Kazan: | ie the 23416 minus the bridge |
| [00:13:44] | mkrufky: | close |
| [00:13:59] | mkrufky: | it's the cx23418 minus the bridge ;-) |
| [00:14:06] | Kazan: | ah |
| [00:14:24] | mkrufky: | cx23418 is used in the hvr1600 , which is not yet supported (but will be eventually) |
| [00:14:25] | Kazan: | dvb command interface or ivtv? |
| [00:14:31] | mkrufky: | ^^ both |
| [00:14:36] | Kazan: | oooh.... bilingual :D |
| [00:14:36] | mkrufky: | dvb api for atsc side |
| [00:14:40] | Kazan: | aah |
| [00:14:45] | mkrufky: | v4l2 for mpeg encoder |
| [00:14:49] | mkrufky: | and stop saying ivtv |
| [00:14:51] | Kazan: | hvr1800 also has qam256 right? |
| [00:14:53] | mkrufky: | ivtv api is obsolete |
| [00:15:02] | Kazan: | i'm refering to the chips |
| [00:15:03] | mkrufky: | replaced by v4l2 mpeg encoding api |
| [00:15:08] | mkrufky: | no ivtv chip |
| [00:15:21] | mkrufky: | ivtv is only the cx23415/6 |
| [00:15:24] | Kazan: | ah |
| [00:15:30] | mkrufky: | 7/8 is all new |
| [00:15:36] | Kazan: | so technically would should be saying conexant mpeg2 encoders |
| [00:15:48] | Kazan: | can you use the analog and digital halves independantly? |
| [00:15:52] | mkrufky: | instead, i said the exact chip name |
| [00:15:57] | Kazan: | or are they sharing something... like the pci-e bridge |
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| [00:16:03] | mkrufky: | yes — it is a combo card, NOT a hybrid |
| [00:16:11] | mkrufky: | so, will show up as two separate devices |
| [00:16:27] | mkrufky: | and you can use them both at the same time |
| [00:16:30] | Kazan: | beautiful :D |
| [00:16:37] | Kazan: | when i build my new system i should get a pair |
| [00:16:48] | Kazan: | then relegate my current system to backend/storage node duty |
| [00:16:49] | mkrufky: | the encoder side uses tda8295 + tda18271 |
| [00:16:54] | mkrufky: | (i wrote the driver for that) |
| [00:17:08] | mkrufky: | and the digital side uses mt2131 + s5h1409 |
| [00:17:23] | mkrufky: | the analog side will not yet be supported in 2.6.24 — we didnt release that code yet |
| [00:17:35] | mkrufky: | for 2.6.24, only ATSC |
| [00:17:46] | mkrufky: | qam, i think, will be supported on that card, but isnt working yet |
| [00:17:58] | mkrufky: | right now just VSB |
| [00:18:53] | Kazan: | well i guess i'll have to wait for the drivers to be finished |
| [00:19:04] | Kazan: | right now my tuner setup is PVR-150, PVR-500, ATSC-110 |
| [00:19:10] | mkrufky: | they'll be finished for 2.6.25 |
| [00:19:53] | mkrufky: | i held back the analog tuner support because i just refactored the internal api for analog tuners to use the digital api |
| [00:20:09] | mkrufky: | so, now i will re-write the new tuner support and have that ready next |
| [00:20:29] | mkrufky: | but it wont be in time for 2.6.24 ... i think there's only a few weeks left to get stuff in for that |
| [00:21:50] | Kazan: | when do you expect it in? |
| [00:21:53] | Kazan: | pre-january? |
| [00:22:22] | Kazan: | is the atsc/qam tuner of superior quality to the atsc-110's nxt2004? |
| [00:23:08] | mkrufky: | i didnt work on the digital stuff for that card, someone else did |
| [00:23:17] | mkrufky: | so i dont know the specifics about that yet |
| [00:23:21] | mkrufky: | but i think it is superior |
| [00:23:26] | Kazan: | holy snowballs |
| [00:23:34] | Kazan: | from the 23418 datasheet |
| [00:23:37] | mkrufky: | ? |
| [00:23:40] | Kazan: | Supports interlaced YPbPr inputs along with composite video and S-video |
| [00:23:43] | mkrufky: | u have the 23418 datasheet ?!? |
| [00:23:50] | Kazan: | YPbPr = component.. ie hd analog |
| [00:23:51] | mkrufky: | oh, just a product brief, probably |
| [00:24:02] | Kazan: | the basic datasheet |
| [00:24:07] | mkrufky: | yeah, the chip supports that |
| [00:24:17] | ** Kazan wonders if the 23418 can do mpeg2 compression of HD sized frames in realtime... ** | |
| [00:24:29] | mkrufky: | heh |
| [00:25:02] | Kazan: | because that would be BITCHIN |
| [00:25:17] | Kazan: | cablecard woes goodbye, hauppauge say hello to massive increase in business |
| [00:25:22] | kdubya: | id be fine if it downresed it like the slingbox hd does |
| [00:25:34] | kdubya: | still widescreen at least |
| [00:25:37] | Kazan: | well... until the cablecompanies cripple the YPbPr output resolution on their STBs |
| [00:25:49] | Kazan: | downrezzing is not acceptable |
| [00:26:00] | Kazan: | well... downrezzing more than 720p is not acceptable :P |
| [00:26:05] | kdubya: | it looks a hell of a lot better than my crappy cable signal |
| [00:26:07] | Kazan: | (i only have a 720p monitor right now) |
| [00:26:52] | Kazan: | mkrufky: what would be really awesome... |
| [00:27:07] | Kazan: | if they made a card that is to the HVR1800 as the PVR500 is to the PVR150 |
| [00:27:08] | kdubya: | do people that capture through a cable box still get the channel number and OSD crap from the cable box |
| [00:27:11] | kdubya: | or can you turn that off |
| [00:27:16] | Kazan: | IE two HVR1800s on one PCB |
| [00:27:35] | mkrufky: | heh |
| [00:27:41] | Kazan: | kdubya: include an "exit" instruction at the end of your channel change chain |
| [00:27:42] | mkrufky: | you wont have to wait long for that |
| [00:27:48] | Kazan: | mkrufky: woohoo |
| [00:27:50] | kdubya: | ah |
| [00:27:55] | Kazan: | i bet it'll need PCI-E 4x though |
| [00:27:59] | mkrufky: | nope |
| [00:28:12] | mkrufky: | regular pcie would work fine |
| [00:28:14] | Kazan: | a single lane can handle all that xmit? |
| [00:28:18] | Kazan: | brb |
| [00:28:23] | mkrufky: | im already working on this support in the driver |
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| [00:28:31] | mkrufky: | (but i dont have the hardware yet) |
| [00:28:55] | kdubya: | so there is a capture card coming out with component in? |
| [00:29:10] | mkrufky: | i dunno, but i have to reboot |
| [00:29:12] | mkrufky: | bbiab |
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| [00:29:32] | Kazan: | back |
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| [00:35:28] | Kazan: | mkrufky's reboots take a long time |
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| [02:08:51] | Jakal: | is there a way i can transfer video to the mythtv to watch? |
| [02:17:32] | Anduin: | Jakal: There is a MythVideo plugin |
| [02:19:59] | Jakal: | is it just for iso;s? |
| [02:21:04] | MaverickTech: | Jakal: no, it will play mpg's etc |
| [02:21:48] | Jakal: | ok cool. so how do i get the videos onto the mythtv? |
| [02:22:27] | mikeones: | Jakal: what do you mean? |
| [02:23:14] | Jakal: | well i cant stream the videos off my computer because something i had to do to get mythtv working broke it. so i wanna put the video files onto the mythtv to watch. |
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| [02:25:51] | sandeen_: | mkrufky-away, mail... |
| [02:25:53] | ** sandeen_ looks ** | |
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| [02:30:28] | degreseven: | i have a video where the action is very loud but speech is very quiet, i have to constantly adjust volume when i watch it. is there any easy way to normalize the audio so it boosts the quiet parts? |
| [02:30:59] | xanderp: | ok, just ran into this one. I'm trying to run mytharchive on a remote frontend and it's complaining about the files being remote. there is an option to copy remote files locally in the settings, but it doesn't seem to work, help please. |
| [02:31:33] | xanderp: | degreseven: does your tv to normalization? that would be the simple way |
| [02:31:49] | xanderp: | degreseven: or your stereo? |
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| [02:32:55] | degreseven: | no it doesnt, pretty old stereo =) |
| [02:33:03] | degreseven: | would have to be a software solution |
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| [02:33:43] | degreseven: | xanderp, wb =), no my stereo doesnt normalize, its pretty old |
| [02:33:47] | xanderp: | anyone have mytharchive able to run on a remote frontend? looking for pointers. |
| [02:34:27] | xanderp: | degreseven: does it have surround sound? if so, you can normally boost the volume of the center channel |
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| [02:35:02] | mikeones: | xanderp: I think you have to have the movie dir avalible to the frontnd via a nfs of share |
| [02:35:12] | mikeones: | s/of/or |
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| [02:35:43] | xanderp: | mikeones: i've got that, even mounted the dir on the frontend, but there's not an option to point archive to see it from where i'm looking |
| [02:36:14] | xanderp: | mikeones: i guess if i told the remote frontend that the tvrecordings directory was a video directory i could get to the file that way... |
| [02:36:35] | xanderp: | mikeones: but i'd like it to read all the tvguide info for the dvd |
| [02:36:41] | degreseven: | xanderp, no, it is only stereo |
| [02:37:05] | xanderp: | degreseven: is the video surroundsound? (ac3 or something) for the audio? |
| [02:37:48] | xanderp: | degreseven: your best bet is probably to run the file through a transcoder with normalization, outside of myth, but not sure on best one to use. |
| [02:38:06] | degreseven: | xanderp, ok, thanks |
| [02:38:22] | degreseven: | xanderp, looks like audio is only 2 channel on the file |
| [02:38:34] | xanderp: | degreseven: you could probably set it up as a USER JOB# though to accomplish repeatedly. |
| [02:38:49] | degreseven: | ahh, maybe il try that |
| [02:38:54] | degreseven: | thanks |
| [02:38:57] | xanderp: | no |
| [02:39:08] | xanderp: | no problem |
| [02:39:13] | xanderp: | ;) |
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| [02:55:23] | Aval0n: | is there any way to make the info when 'info' button is pressed to stay on screen until cleared? |
| [02:55:34] | Aval0n: | I can barely get the discriptions read before it times out and fades away. |
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| [03:04:03] | kdubya: | take speed reading classes |
| [03:04:24] | tank-man: | set the timeout to something else |
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| [03:15:07] | H00chster: | is there a way to keep certain frontends from using certain tuners? |
| [03:16:30] | kdubya: | SD frontend cant handle the HD stuff eh |
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| [03:16:57] | H00chster: | well actually it is handling it fine but for some reason it is grabbing that tuner by default and I don't recall setting priority on any tuner heh |
| [03:18:38] | HeatHawk[LI]: | When my mythtv is recording, the do weird stuff, like the mouse jumps and stuff, and my keyboard enters random keys, and its especially annoying if I am watching a show, it changes it to channel 2 by random, ideas? |
| [03:19:50] | kdubya: | you are most surely haunted |
| [03:21:46] | HeatHawk[LI]: | Well, its a usb tuner with a remote and reciever built into it, but ive tried taking the batteries out the remote, still screws everything up |
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| [03:22:17] | kdubya: | well |
| [03:22:27] | kdubya: | it is most likely not your keyboard entering anything |
| [03:22:39] | kdubya: | probably something interfering with your IR reciever |
| [03:23:16] | defaultro: | good evening folks. This is the first time I've experience this. I was watching then suddently, the mythfrontend disappeared. I can still hear the audio though. I had to kill the fe to see it again |
| [03:23:34] | defaultro: | s/suddently/suddenly/ |
| [03:23:45] | kdubya: | well if it has only crashed once consider yourself luck :P |
| [03:23:47] | kdubya: | lucky* |
| [03:24:20] | defaultro: | true but something is wrong with 0.20.2. I just upgraded last night for SD |
| [03:24:59] | defaultro: | I've got a log, checking |
| [03:25:02] | HeatHawk[LI]: | kdubya, well i cant see how tuner interference would cause my mouse and keyboard to go berserk, unless the reciever on it is fucking with them through wireless (wireless keyboard mouse combo) |
| [03:25:28] | HeatHawk[LI]: | if thats the case, how can i disable the remote function on it? |
| [03:25:34] | kdubya: | maybe it is RF interference then |
| [03:25:40] | HeatHawk[LI]: | its a hauppage wint tv usb 2 |
| [03:25:46] | kdubya: | and it is the mouse and keyboard, not that remote |
| [03:26:06] | kdubya: | try a wired USB keyboard and mouse and see if the same thing happens |
| [03:26:20] | HeatHawk[LI]: | its only when the tuner is active, so im gonna have to say its related, lol |
| [03:26:34] | defaultro: | what's this folks? |
| [03:26:35] | defaultro: | 2007-09–07 21:43:48.958 Preview Warning: Failed to save preview. |
| [03:26:35] | defaultro: | You may need to check user and group ownership |
| [03:26:35] | defaultro: | on your frontend and backend for quicker previews. |
| [03:26:35] | defaultro: | Attempting to regenerate preview on backend. |
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| [03:29:41] | kdubya: | looks like it is failing to save the preview |
| [03:31:13] | defaultro: | i changed the ownership |
| [03:31:16] | defaultro: | i'll check it now |
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| [03:37:17] | HeatHawk[LI]: | lol |
| [03:37:20] | HeatHawk[LI]: | on wired mouse |
| [03:37:23] | HeatHawk[LI]: | same old shit |
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| [03:40:23] | qfour21: | Hi there everyone. I'm having trouble getting a frontend box to connect to a backend box. mythfrontend runs just fine on the backend box, but times out connecting to the frontend. I've made sure to grant access in mysql to the entire subnet that the frontend is on. Interesting to note that from the backend box i can can open a socket to port 6543. On the frontend, openssl times out trying to do this. |
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| [03:41:45] | HeatHawk[LI]: | is it normal to go to the dir its recording to and have ls report an input output error? |
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| [03:42:18] | qfour21: | would that be bind-address directive in my.cnf? hmmm... it's worth a shot |
| [03:45:20] | qfour21: | well, adding the 'bind-address' directive and bouncing mysqld didn't resolve it |
| [03:45:41] | qfour21: | maybe something in mythbackend itself? |
| [03:46:38] | qfour21: | HeatHawk[LI]: I definitely think an io error on the path that you record to would be A Bad Thing(tm) |
| [03:48:33] | HeatHawk[LI]: | ya, well, my system does funky things when it records stuff |
| [03:48:46] | HeatHawk[LI]: | im gonna try swapping the cpu to a faster one when i get the chance |
| [03:49:38] | HeatHawk[LI]: | its a sempron 2800+ 64bit (1.6, 128 cache), i have a real a64 3000+ (2.0, 512 cache) that might boost it up |
| [03:50:03] | HeatHawk[LI]: | didnt want to use it because it gets hot, but damn myth brings this computer to a crawl |
| [03:50:07] | qfour21: | is this SD content or HD? |
| [03:50:24] | qfour21: | and is it a dedicated backend box? |
| [03:51:03] | HeatHawk[LI]: | no, its regular cable, and its my linux workstation, i use it for a lot, just put on the tuner to record shows i miss |
| [03:51:23] | qfour21: | dude, if it's not HD content |
| [03:51:36] | qfour21: | you should be able to darn near use a wristwatch to record |
| [03:51:49] | qfour21: | unless your tuner is a frame grabber, not an mpeg encoder |
| [03:52:28] | qfour21: | I ran a backend on a pIII 450 with an mpeg encoder card and it never broke a sweat |
| [03:52:32] | HeatHawk[LI]: | its a wintv usb2 analog tuner? |
| [03:52:48] | qfour21: | that might be a frame grabber |
| [03:52:50] | briand: | the same can nearly be said for *recording* HD content... now, playing that back is another story... |
| [03:52:57] | qfour21: | not familiar with it |
| [03:53:27] | HeatHawk[LI]: | could be the hard drive th |
| [03:53:45] | qfour21: | definitely could be... or controller too |
| [03:53:47] | HeatHawk[LI]: | since its solid on right now, and i get that i/o error when ls on it |
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| [03:56:42] | qfour22: | so, anybody have ideas what i might be missing for the issues of not being able to connect from frontend to backend? |
| [03:58:16] | HeatHawk[LI]: | check the firewall on it |
| [03:58:26] | qfour22: | no firewall |
| [03:58:32] | qfour22: | they sit on the same switch |
| [03:58:43] | qfour22: | hmmmm |
| [03:58:51] | qfour22: | wonder if i can open a socket from the laptop to it |
| [03:58:55] | HeatHawk[LI]: | that dosnt meen the linux iptables allow for activity on that port |
| [03:59:38] | qfour22: | ohhhhhh you mean HOST based firewall |
| [03:59:46] | qfour22: | haven't messed with any of that stuff yet |
| [03:59:50] | qfour22: | time to read some manpages |
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| [04:02:22] | qfour22: | it's got accept any/any for mysql |
| [04:02:39] | qfour22: | don't see anything in iptables -h for port 6543 though |
| [04:03:49] | HeatHawk[LI]: | im not sure what needs to be open for it, im a noob to mythtv still |
| [04:04:26] | qfour22: | already found a decent howto on it |
| [04:04:32] | ** qfour22 crosses his fingers ** | |
| [04:11:54] | qfour21: | WOOO HOO |
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| [04:11:58] | qfour21: | thanks for the help |
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| [04:19:12] | defaultro: | my officemate has a comcast dvr. Why can they record encrypted shows? That's illegal right? |
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| [04:19:18] | jedix: | hey |
| [04:19:22] | jedix: | I hvae two tuners, one always has the description in teh OSD and the other doesn't |
| [04:19:29] | jedix: | I have setup the same zap2it account (until I upgrade) |
| [04:19:36] | jedix: | adn the tuner that doesn't have descriptions (just says unknown), the guide always starts way way away from the channel I'm on |
| [04:22:29] | defaultro: | so what's with their dvr that it can record encrypted shows? |
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| [04:23:24] | HeatHawk[LI]: | welp |
| [04:23:33] | HeatHawk[LI]: | something definitly screwed up |
| [04:23:38] | HeatHawk[LI]: | had to reboot to get the disk back |
| [04:23:41] | HeatHawk[LI]: | and now its fine |
| [04:23:51] | HeatHawk[LI]: | sucks tho, it didnt get my recording |
| [04:23:54] | HeatHawk[LI]: | :( |
| [04:24:33] | HeatHawk[LI]: | off to bed |
| [04:24:34] | HeatHawk[LI]: | later |
| [04:25:18] | jedix: | so I kinda want the info to be on both tuners |
| [04:25:45] | jedix: | and idealy the guide to start on the channel I'm watching |
| [04:25:50] | jedix: | any ideas how to do that? |
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| [04:31:06] | jedix: | ping? |
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| [04:31:12] | sslashes: | any idea why mythmusic visualizations would not work? |
| [04:31:17] | Jakal: | one of the videos i uploaded to my mythtv isnt playing properly. the audio goes out of sync as the video plays. can anyone suggest what player to use? |
| [04:31:33] | jedix: | mplayer? |
| [04:32:01] | Jakal: | worth a shot |
| [04:34:55] | Jakal: | still out of sync. maybe its just this video |
| [04:35:02] | Jakal: | tho it works fine on my pc |
| [04:35:14] | jedix: | does it start out of sync? |
| [04:35:20] | defaultro: | hey folks, is this supported in mythtv -> MyHD MDP-130 |
| [04:35:24] | jedix: | or does it slowly go out of synch? |
| [04:36:12] | Jakal: | ill try another video |
| [04:36:31] | Jakal: | and it goes out of sync quickly |
| [04:36:37] | Jakal: | about a queater thru |
| [04:38:35] | jedix: | I'm wondering if it's 44hz vs 48hz thing |
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| [04:51:52] | kyi_: | damn it ... the data direct train just derailed for me |
| [04:52:37] | kyi_: | my subscription said it was good until 10–15 but no go |
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| [04:57:22] | mistone: | ok so I still have regular analog cable and I live on the US |
| [04:57:38] | mistone: | and I want to switch to HD, what are my options and what would work best with mythtv |
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| [05:06:36] | jedix: | I have no problems paying for zap2it |
| [05:06:42] | jedix: | but I wish I didn't have to upgrade |
| [05:08:42] | mistone: | why not just pay the schedule direct guys? |
| [05:08:50] | mistone: | thats I am about to do |
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| [05:10:07] | jedix: | schedule direct is the myth guys, right? |
| [05:10:11] | mistone: | yea |
| [05:10:16] | mistone: | well pretty much |
| [05:10:20] | mistone: | but they use zap2it |
| [05:10:35] | jedix: | so I don't have to upgrade to use it? |
| [05:10:42] | mistone: | upgrade mythtv? |
| [05:10:47] | jedix: | yeah |
| [05:10:48] | mistone: | yea you would have to upgrade mythtv |
| [05:10:55] | jedix: | yeah, thus my upset |
| [05:10:59] | jedix: | ah well |
| [05:11:02] | mistone: | your using gentoo or something? |
| [05:11:03] | jedix: | I will do that soon |
| [05:11:05] | mistone: | it was apt-get update for me |
| [05:11:06] | mistone: | lol |
| [05:11:20] | jedix: | I built my own myth so I could reverse the channels |
| [05:11:28] | mistone: | :O ? |
| [05:11:41] | mistone: | reverse the channells? |
| [05:11:44] | jedix: | yes |
| [05:11:49] | mistone: | what do you mean? |
| [05:12:06] | jedix: | so when you pull up the guide, up is up |
| [05:12:21] | mistone: | um you can change the controls |
| [05:12:30] | mistone: | you don't need to mess with teh source code to do that |
| [05:12:43] | jedix: | huh? |
| [05:12:52] | jedix: | I want up to be up in numbers |
| [05:13:09] | mistone: | what are you talking about lol |
| [05:13:18] | jedix: | press s |
| [05:13:21] | jedix: | look at the guide |
| [05:13:28] | jedix: | why is it when you press down |
| [05:13:34] | jedix: | do the numbers go up? |
| [05:14:09] | mistone: | 1) first of all mine doesn't do taht 2) There is a way to edit the controls on mythtv, its under options |
| [05:15:02] | jedix: | I don't want to change the controls |
| [05:15:14] | jedix: | I want the numbers to be reversed |
| [05:16:06] | mistone: | make up down and down up |
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| [05:16:24] | jedix: | the channels listed will still be the wrong way |
| [05:16:29] | mistone: | oh |
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| [05:48:16] | Aval0n: | hey guys, on dish network they had episode information, but they had the year the movie was released or what date episodes aired |
| [05:48:21] | Aval0n: | is that a possible option with SD? |
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| [05:59:50] | xris: | Aval0n: for most stuff, yeah |
| [06:00:11] | xris: | that's what the free trial is there to find out |
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| [06:03:39] | Aval0n: | how do I toggle that on xris> |
| [06:03:43] | Aval0n: | i've already payed |
| [06:03:51] | Aval0n: | :) |
| [06:04:07] | xris: | Aval0n: toggle it on in mythtv? It should just be there. |
| [06:04:14] | xris: | assuming the data exists. |
| [06:04:26] | xris: | I don't know what the schedule stuff looks like in the frontend, but I know that I coded it into mythweb |
| [06:04:36] | Aval0n: | I get the episode and what the subject is |
| [06:04:39] | Aval0n: | but no day |
| [06:04:42] | Aval0n: | err date |
| [06:04:55] | Aval0n: | dish have movie from 1998 3 stars blah blah |
| [06:05:03] | Aval0n: | has* |
| [06:05:58] | xris: | you won't get a day for movies.. they don't have days, just years (since movies have different release dates around the world) |
| [06:06:12] | Aval0n: | right but I don't get that |
| [06:06:19] | Aval0n: | I have to hit the info button twice |
| [06:06:34] | Aval0n: | first time I hit it, I get position |
| [06:06:53] | Aval0n: | then I get episode subject and i can barely finish reading it and it disappears :) |
| [06:06:55] | xris: | like I said, I don't know anything about that info in the frontend. if the data is there, mythweb will show it. |
| [06:07:12] | Aval0n: | ok |
| [06:08:09] | Aval0n: | yeah I see it in mythweb |
| [06:08:19] | Aval0n: | dunno why it doesn't show on the front end |
| [06:08:27] | Aval0n: | the theme wouldn't be controlling it would it? |
| [06:09:15] | Aval0n: | i see it in program guide |
| [06:09:23] | Aval0n: | just not on the data for info button |
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| [06:17:42] | jhatch: | Hey, does the mythweb flash player work for anyone here? |
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| [06:26:41] | mistone: | let me try |
| [06:28:20] | mistone: | eh server doesn't work yet |
| [06:28:45] | defaultro: | hi xris, any ideas how many folks have signed up already with SD? |
| [06:29:13] | defaultro: | is it more than 100k users now? |
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| [06:39:25] | xris: | defaultro: not that many. heh |
| [06:39:40] | xris: | new PP should go up this weekend. we have to wait a week for users to agree to it, and then we can start releasing some numbers. |
| [06:39:43] | xris: | PP == privacy policy |
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| [06:43:17] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:46:18] | mistone: | I will pay as soon as I get everything set up |
| [06:46:25] | mistone: | looks good tho |
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| [07:09:29] | mistone: | read-edid is the greatest thing ever |
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| [07:44:21] | mza-: | 2007-09–08 02:41:59.424 RingBuf(/home/adam/recordings//3107_20070908024147.mpg): Invalid file (fd -1) when opening '/home/adam/recordings//3107_20070908024147.mpg'. |
| [07:44:33] | mza-: | i get that error when trying to switch to my hdtv tuner |
| [07:44:41] | mza-: | standard def works fine |
| [07:44:48] | mza-: | the file gets created, it's just empty |
| [07:44:51] | mza-: | any ideas? |
| [07:46:47] | mza-: | using a pvr-150 and an ati-hd wonder on a gentoo box running 2.6.22.1 kernel |
| [07:46:50] | mza-: | if that helps |
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| [07:52:11] | mza-: | it displays the video for a second then stops |
| [07:52:23] | mza-: | and every 30 seconds or so ill get video/audio output |
| [07:52:25] | mza-: | very strange |
| [07:52:27] | mza-: | just a blip |
| [07:53:26] | mza-: | 2007-09–08 02:52:35.884 NVP::AddAudioData():p1: Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost! |
| [07:53:30] | mza-: | that stuff too |
| [07:53:39] | mza-: | might try a new sound card:-\ |
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| [07:59:05] | mistone: | could I run mythtv off a removable harddrive? |
| [07:59:19] | mistone: | like I mean save the shows to one |
| [07:59:50] | mistone: | er external |
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| [08:40:41] | floppyears: | mistone: 0.21 from svn can do it easily |
| [08:40:56] | floppyears: | you just add your removable storage as a storage group and voila |
| [08:41:14] | mistone: | hrrmm |
| [08:41:36] | mistone: | I only have a 25 gig hd |
| [08:41:59] | mistone: | and I want to buy a new one, and its a older computer so its a regular ata interface |
| [08:42:02] | floppyears: | yeah, you'll definetely want more than that |
| [08:42:17] | mistone: | yea so should I buy a normal harddrive or a external one? |
| [08:42:25] | floppyears: | you can always get a regular ata hdd |
| [08:42:32] | mistone: | thats what I was about to do |
| [08:42:57] | floppyears: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Storage_Groups |
| [08:43:41] | mistone: | ah ok |
| [08:43:42] | mistone: | thats awesome |
| [08:44:52] | mistone: | hrrm |
| [08:45:28] | mistone: | wahteve I will just get a regular drive |
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| [08:58:10] | floppyears: | get as much storage as you can, it always comes in handy |
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| [09:21:52] | mistone: | 250 gigs is fine |
| [09:22:16] | mistone: | even for hd |
| [09:22:55] | laga: | 500G is cheap, though |
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| [10:26:47] | drindt: | someone knows if myth is running with uclibc? |
| [10:27:37] | laga: | drindt: i doubt it. search the mailing list |
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| [10:51:24] | ifvoid: | hi |
| [10:52:47] | ifvoid: | I;m looking to buy a tv capturing card for both analogue cable and dvb-t |
| [10:53:01] | ifvoid: | could anyone recommend one that works nicely with linux? |
| [10:53:12] | laga: | ifvoid: www.linuxtv.org ? |
| [10:53:35] | laga: | with most hybrid tuner cards, you can't use both tuners at once. they don't work too well with mythtv AFAIK |
| [10:54:12] | ifvoid: | hmm ok |
| [10:54:21] | ifvoid: | so I would be better of buying two cardS? |
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| [11:00:46] | ifvoid: | laga: the linuxtv wiki doesn't list whether such a card can handle cable and dvb simultaneously |
| [11:02:46] | laga: | ask the manufacturer? ;) |
| [11:02:53] | laga: | still depends on the linux driver, though |
| [11:03:11] | laga: | i bet your question has been covered on the ML a lot, so you should search it, too |
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| [11:06:32] | sege: | i just can't get subtitles to work correct in the internal dvd player. with ogle/xine it looks okej, black frame around characters and white in the middle, buth the internal player i get transparency in the middle and black frames. this makes it impossible to read. frustrating. |
| [11:19:17] | SiD3WiNDR: | ifvoid: I have a hybrid card but you can't use both together |
| [11:20:30] | ifvoid: | SiD3WiNDR: yeah, I guess it depends on the card |
| [11:20:37] | ifvoid: | but of course that info is nowhere to be found |
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| [11:27:34] | BiohaZd: | hey guys |
| [11:27:43] | BiohaZd: | am i right in saying i need 2 instances of lirc |
| [11:27:49] | BiohaZd: | one for pvr 150 remote |
| [11:27:58] | BiohaZd: | and one for controling my virgin media stb ? |
| [11:48:21] | Dagmar: | The docs say what to do, and that ain't it. |
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| [11:52:47] | BiohaZd: | please can you point me to the docs :) |
| [11:54:44] | BiohaZd: | mythtv.org ? |
| [11:54:51] | BiohaZd: | mythtv.org/wiki ? |
| [11:54:54] | BiohaZd: | other ? |
| [11:55:00] | BiohaZd: | thanks :) |
| [11:58:27] | BiohaZd: | is it this page http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html ? |
| [12:05:35] | BiohaZd: | any help with be great (im busy searchig the docs) |
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| [12:11:12] | benc-: | setup first remote backend. it can play livetv from its tuner. any other frontend gets a MythSocket timeout error when trying. anyone run into this? tuners in master work. |
| [12:14:48] | benc-: | ah. note on lists. still had 127.0.0.1 as remotes address. |
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| [12:17:24] | Henkie-: | hi, are there any known issues with a ati radeon card? (using fglrx drivers) |
| [12:17:34] | BiohaZd: | benc- thanks |
| [12:17:57] | Henkie-: | the playback of recorded files is out of sync |
| [12:17:58] | directhex: | Henkie-, yes. fglrx sucks. |
| [12:18:13] | Henkie-: | directhex, yeah, i figured as much :( |
| [12:18:21] | directhex: | it's a known issue! |
| [12:18:28] | BiohaZd: | i think the std answer is "ditch ATI and go get an Nvidia" |
| [12:18:39] | Henkie-: | yeah, but this isn't my system :) |
| [12:18:42] | BiohaZd: | :) |
| [12:18:56] | BiohaZd: | anyone here fro mthe uk ? on cable tv ? |
| [12:19:53] | spoky99: | hi all |
| [12:20:06] | BiohaZd: | hey :) |
| [12:20:17] | spoky99: | someone know the repository for mithbuntu gutsy? |
| [12:20:32] | BiohaZd: | sry nope |
| [12:20:40] | spoky99: | :( |
| [12:20:49] | BiohaZd: | any reason u using gutsy ? its still very alpha code |
| [12:20:50] | directhex: | spoky99, package repository? |
| [12:21:13] | directhex: | spoky99, same as regular gutsy. as is usually the case with ubuntu variants |
| [12:21:34] | BiohaZd: | :) |
| [12:21:40] | spoky99: | because I'have one computer whith mythbuntu 7.10 installed from a friend |
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| [12:22:09] | spoky99: | I'have only to configure ir (lirc) |
| [12:22:33] | BiohaZd: | nice |
| [12:22:43] | spoky99: | O_o |
| [12:23:13] | BiohaZd: | i'm trying to get my serial ir receiver to work |
| [12:23:18] | BiohaZd: | dont know where to begin |
| [12:23:25] | BiohaZd: | i have amy pvr-150 remote working |
| [12:23:30] | spoky99: | but.. today after one apt-get update.. |
| [12:23:44] | spoky99: | make me error like this |
| [12:23:49] | BiohaZd: | :( |
| [12:23:57] | spoky99: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/packages/dists . . . /Packages.gz 404 Not Found |
| [12:24:12] | BiohaZd: | check thay link works |
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| [12:24:33] | spoky99: | (I ave two other hauppauge whit it's remote that work...) |
| [12:24:40] | spoky99: | don't work |
| [12:24:40] | directhex: | spoky99, generally, #ubuntu-mythtv is the place to ask |
| [12:25:05] | spoky99: | I know... but nobody write there :( |
| [12:25:09] | spoky99: | escuse me!! |
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| [12:25:33] | directhex: | spoky99, and i wasn't aware you needed any extra repos beyond the usual ubuntu ones |
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| [12:26:21] | spoky99: | I don't know.. using module-assistant I need install new lib |
| [12:27:12] | directhex: | spoky99, do you have a regular ubuntu gutsy souces in sources.list? |
| [12:27:16] | spoky99: | and was better start installing new modules after a apt-get upgrade |
| [12:27:22] | spoky99: | yesss |
| [12:27:43] | spoky99: | I don't thik that my friends cange someting in the sources list |
| [12:28:04] | spoky99: | (excuse my bad english... is't my language) |
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| [12:29:14] | spoky99: | I tried to search in the mythbubtu site but.. I do't find nothing about repository :( |
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| [12:32:09] | XLV: | spoky99, you search 0.20.2 packages for ubuntu? |
| [12:34:23] | spoky99: | I don't know |
| [12:34:49] | spoky99: | I want only update the computer that work |
| [12:35:00] | spoky99: | installing on it the remote |
| [12:35:10] | directhex: | i really don't see why you need a repository other than the regular ubuntu one though |
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| [12:37:07] | spoky99: | I don't undrestand why ad when I need it, but they are on the original sources.list |
| [12:37:15] | spoky99: | I never changed it |
| [12:38:50] | XLV: | atm in regular repostories a previous version of mythtv is available, to get 0.20.2 you need to do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536555 |
| [12:39:21] | directhex: | XLV, i'm not sure how this is relevant to a mythbuntu 7.10 issue |
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| [12:42:35] | XLV: | directhex, it isnt, i thought he ran ubuntu, not mythbuntu |
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| [12:53:05] | spoky99: | thank's I will read it :) |
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| [13:33:48] | BiohaZd: | hi guys can anyone help me get lirc working so i can chnage channels on STB ? |
| [13:34:55] | laga: | BiohaZd: google? |
| [13:35:09] | BiohaZd: | i have been for the last few hours |
| [13:35:16] | BiohaZd: | not making much progress :( |
| [13:35:22] | BiohaZd: | i have lirc working for pvr-150 |
| [13:35:32] | BiohaZd: | now trying to get serial ir working |
| [13:36:04] | BiohaZd: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Using_an . . . _with_MythTV |
| [13:36:24] | laga: | what is your *problem*? |
| [13:36:42] | BiohaZd: | i dont know where to begin |
| [13:36:49] | BiohaZd: | must i have 1 instance of lirc |
| [13:37:00] | BiohaZd: | for both pvr-150 remote and chnage channels via serial ? |
| [13:37:16] | BiohaZd: | i add pvr-150 remote and STB remoteto lirc.conf |
| [13:37:52] | BiohaZd: | not sure if i need lirc_serial module loaded in kernel |
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| [15:36:01] | kieran491: | Hi |
| [15:37:15] | kieran491: | I have a machine that has a TVTuner card which is adapter0 when i first got mythtv to refer to it. it use to use adapter0 but now it thinks that adapater0 is actualy named adapter1 and i cant seem to fix it any ideas on how i can make the mythtv look at adapter1 as actaul adapter0? |
| [15:38:02] | kslater: | I think if you search you should be able to find some details on how to make the cards stay in the proper order |
| [15:38:10] | kslater: | do you have more than one capture card? |
| [15:38:27] | kieran491: | no just the one |
| [15:38:37] | kslater: | what type of card? |
| [15:38:41] | kieran491: | DVB |
| [15:39:08] | kieran491: | see what it see is |
| [15:39:33] | kslater: | where's one of the guys that use dvb cards when you need them? |
| [15:39:53] | kieran491: | What Exists = /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 |
| [15:39:54] | kieran491: | What It thinks = /dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 |
| [15:40:21] | laga: | why dont you change it in the setup |
| [15:40:52] | kieran491: | i have to 0 |
| [15:40:53] | kslater: | seems like a logical question, but I think he's saying it changed in the past |
| [15:40:58] | kieran491: | but it uses adapter1 |
| [15:41:33] | laga: | you can change that in mythtv-setup. |
| [15:42:08] | kslater: | laga – do you know if a slave .20.2 backend will talk to a master backend at .20? |
| [15:42:33] | kieran491: | i have laga that the thing its currently set to 0 BUT it thinks 0 is refering to adapter1/front0 but in fact it should be pointing to adapter0/front0 |
| [15:42:42] | laga: | kslater: it won't. unless the master backend is running 0.20-fixes. there was a protocal change after vanilla 0.20 came out |
| [15:42:51] | kslater: | cra[ |
| [15:42:54] | kslater: | crap |
| [15:43:09] | kslater: | I was going to do a test install of .20.2 on the slave to ease into the upgrade |
| [15:43:18] | laga: | kslater: the protocol change occured like a year ago, so in most cases you're safe |
| [15:43:32] | kslater: | let me check my package date |
| [15:44:18] | kslater: | .20–147 from at rpms |
| [15:44:27] | kieran491: | can i change what adapater folder mythttv is refering to in the database? |
| [15:44:41] | kslater: | is the protocol version in the db anywhere? |
| [15:45:13] | laga: | kslater: what you're saying is not really making sense. that shouldn't happen. |
| [15:45:27] | laga: | kslater: is that the latest atrpms build? |
| [15:46:19] | kslater: | no, it's an old one |
| [15:46:47] | kslater: | started out as mythdora 2.32 and then I did a partial upgrade some time ago to grab some newer stuff |
| [15:46:59] | laga: | ah |
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| [15:47:15] | laga: | well, i guess you'll find out eventually ;) |
| [15:47:24] | ** laga goes back to yelling at the nvidia driver ** | |
| [15:47:36] | kslater: | build date was mid nov 2006 |
| [15:47:42] | kslater: | might be new enough |
| [15:49:09] | kslater: | seems like the protocol version should be able to be pulled from somewhere |
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| [15:49:58] | laga: | kslater: 2007-09–08 17:49:53.966 Using protocol version 35 |
| [15:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythbackend --version |
| [15:50:06] | laga: | kslater: my frontend says that when starting |
| [15:50:18] | GreyFoxx: | plus the logs like laga mentions |
| [15:50:25] | ol_schoola: | kslater: run mythbackend from a console |
| [15:50:32] | kslater: | cool |
| [15:50:40] | kslater: | it'll spit it out on startup I assume |
| [15:51:22] | kslater: | oh, need to read up a bit, I see it thanks guys. |
| [15:52:45] | ol_schoola: | i remember the first time i realized that all that stuff at boot was tucked away in dmesg. what a revelation THAT was |
| [15:53:02] | gautada_: | My system restarted after a power failure. I had several DVD rip jobs in progress. The rip function was completed and all jobs were waiting for permission to transcode. How do I restart them with mtd? |
| [15:54:54] | kieran491: | in my setup mythtv is handeling my DVB Card Number 0 and 1 as adapter1 and not handleing them as sepeart eg. adapter0, adapter1 |
| [15:56:28] | kieran491: | what dose the following error mean ERROR_OPEN Subtype: DVB-T |
| [15:56:36] | kslater: | I see backend version number, but not myth protocol in the backend log. |
| [15:58:45] | kslater: | nevermind, I'm a doofus |
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| [15:59:00] | kslater: | it's in there on both backends. protocol 31. :-( |
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| [16:01:23] | spoky99: | laga: the remote work :D many many thanks! |
| [16:01:31] | ol_schoola: | kslater: mythdora 2.3 was fedora core 5, right? |
| [16:02:22] | Cowman: | so with zap2it gone, is schedules direct the only option for guide data now? |
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| [16:02:42] | spoky99: | laga: It's possible make the computer halt directly from mythtv? now they restart |
| [16:02:57] | ol_schoola: | Cowman: depends on your definition of "only" |
| [16:03:07] | zo0m: | cowman: and where you live, and what skills you have |
| [16:03:10] | zo0m: | heh |
| [16:03:36] | Cowman: | well my sources are direcTV and local insight cable. neither of which have guide data that myth can read as far as I know |
| [16:03:44] | ol_schoola: | for me, it's the only worthwhile choice. and i'll be pleased when i build .20.2 today |
| [16:04:27] | gautada_: | Again does anyone know how to restart dvd rip's transcoding job after the rip was successful but the transcoding didn't complete? |
| [16:04:28] | ol_schoola: | without sounding like an evangelist, SD is it. unless you want to invest lots of time fixing a scraper or three |
| [16:04:54] | Cowman: | although myth is in a way ruining TV for me. I've now seen every episode of every show I like to watch.... it's staggering efficency means I go through all the new content faster :P |
| [16:05:16] | ol_schoola: | Cowman: i agree :) |
| [16:05:36] | iamben: | i read in several places that reiserfs should not be used for my recording storage, what are the problems with that? |
| [16:05:50] | zo0m: | my favorite complaint is missing previews for new shows because im always skipping commercials :) so its like "wow, when did that start? that show looks awesome.." like ice truckers heh |
| [16:06:03] | Cowman: | yeah I have that |
| [16:06:07] | zo0m: | iamben: um, because reiserfs is designed for small files? |
| [16:06:10] | Cowman: | my commercial skip misses some though |
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| [16:06:35] | Cowman: | I don't think it's myth, I think it's the source...and possibly the cap card. |
| [16:06:49] | Cowman: | should probably upgrade my ivtv drivers again |
| [16:07:15] | zo0m: | xfs and jfs are best for large files |
| [16:07:17] | iamben: | zo0m: i understand it may not be the fastest, but the docs act like my system will crash and burn if i use reiserfs |
| [16:07:24] | zo0m: | iamben: it may |
| [16:07:43] | iamben: | reiserfs isnt totally retarded, it knows how to handle large files |
| [16:07:52] | zo0m: | sure, its just inefficient |
| [16:07:56] | Cowman: | every 1–2 months my pvr150 basically locks up and the only fix is to totaly power down the machine and power it back up.... or it starts skipping(random 1 second black screens with no audio), same cure. |
| [16:07:58] | zo0m: | and i will not argue with you over it, so do what you want lol |
| [16:07:58] | iamben: | it excels at small files, but it handles large ones just fine |
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| [16:08:04] | zo0m: | fine, then dont ask and do it |
| [16:08:06] | zo0m: | lol |
| [16:08:28] | iamben: | so that is the only reason for them warning us against it? it isnt quite as efficient at large files? |
| [16:08:35] | iamben: | i thought there might be something more complex |
| [16:08:41] | Cowman: | what's wrong with ext3? |
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| [16:08:50] | zo0m: | its complex when you come back here a few days from now and complain that myth is studdering |
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| [16:09:04] | gautada_: | iamben: it is very complex you got the glib answer |
| [16:09:05] | zo0m: | or takes forever to open a 2.4gig 1hr show to start playing |
| [16:09:18] | zo0m: | "what does prebuffering pause mean?!@" |
| [16:09:33] | zo0m: | so the docs warn you against it, you want to buck the docs, go for it and run reisfer we dont give a care :) |
| [16:09:52] | ** Dagmar makes a note in his client so that it reminds him Cowman is an ext3 user every time he speaks ** | |
| [16:09:56] | zo0m: | oh your mythfrontend locking up during livetv when the 1hr mark comes and your show switches over |
| [16:10:05] | zo0m: | s/oh/or |
| [16:10:07] | iamben: | i already had this machine built on reiserfs long before i considered mythtv, i was inquiring to see how important FS really is |
| [16:10:20] | zo0m: | filesystem is always important. |
| [16:10:25] | zo0m: | you choose the right fs for the right job |
| [16:10:29] | iamben: | zo0m: actually it does all of the things you've described =) |
| [16:10:30] | zo0m: | its why you have a choice in the first place |
| [16:10:30] | Dagmar: | Cowman: READ the documentation. It is there to prevent ugly problems that will later require you to erase everything to fix. |
| [16:10:45] | kieran491: | is the mythtv site down? |
| [16:11:19] | gautada_: | iamben: You can use parted or gparted and adjust your partitions. Then put myth on a new partition with a new file system |
| [16:11:20] | Cowman: | can't get it either |
| [16:11:48] | Cowman: | so ext3 has problems? what are you all using then, jfs? |
| [16:12:00] | gautada_: | Cowman: yas |
| [16:12:06] | iamben: | gautada_: i can do one better actually, i've got the OS & myth on an older 13G drive, and i have some extra identical drives laying around i can mirror to |
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| [16:12:12] | zo0m: | ext3 isnt that bad now, it was terrible before delayed deleting came around |
| [16:12:18] | laga: | mythtv.org works here |
| [16:12:18] | zo0m: | but yeah i run xfs and havent had a single problem |
| [16:12:21] | laga: | but it's slow |
| [16:12:22] | zo0m: | works here too |
| [16:12:40] | Cowman: | oh ok, I've been formatting with larger blocks |
| [16:12:47] | Cowman: | my recordings have their own partition on the disk |
| [16:12:50] | zo0m: | xfs on a raid5 4x300gig sata2 hardware raid controller (adaptec 2420sa) |
| [16:12:59] | gautada_: | iamben: Great use jfs along side reiserfs |
| [16:13:10] | Dagmar: | Cowman: Doesn't matter. The docs are dead on about why ext3 is not useful as the filestore |
| [16:13:27] | kieran491: | argh i reinstalled the WHOLE database deleted it reinstalled it and its picking up DVB Card number 0 and 1 as the same adapter (adapter1) |
| [16:13:27] | ** Esine runs jfs ** | |
| [16:13:34] | zo0m: | i chose xfs over jfs because when searching the email lists i found more rants/complaints about corrupted jfs partitions than xfs |
| [16:13:38] | zo0m: | so im like, alright, xfs it is! |
| [16:13:41] | zo0m: | and havent had a problem since. |
| [16:13:41] | Esine: | uh.. really? |
| [16:13:42] | zo0m: | few years now |
| [16:13:49] | zo0m: | yeah esine, search the lists |
| [16:13:51] | zo0m: | :) |
| [16:13:53] | Cowman: | well next time I rebuild it I'll try xfs or jfs |
| [16:13:55] | Esine: | I haven't had any problems with jfs for like 3 years but ok |
| [16:14:02] | Dagmar: | I never noticed anything that wasn't coming from people who didn't buy a UPS |
| [16:14:12] | Esine: | I used to have xfs too but jfs did better on performance tests |
| [16:14:14] | Esine: | so I chose jfs |
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| [16:14:27] | Cowman: | the only problem I had with ext3 was caused by a power outage during a recording.... which promted me to buy a UPS |
| [16:14:33] | Esine: | and it's not like I have anything super important data on my hdds that I don't have backups of |
| [16:14:33] | zo0m: | esine: really? what did you use to test? i found the opposite actually |
| [16:14:34] | Dagmar: | Between the two, jfs is probably the better choice because of the way XFS handles writes that involve a lot of very small writes |
| [16:14:44] | Esine: | zo0m, no I read some tests online and jfs was faster on some things |
| [16:14:53] | zo0m: | ah |
| [16:15:13] | kieran491: | no ideas why i am getting this problem with the DVB Card number treating 0 and 1 as the same adapater? |
| [16:15:51] | zo0m: | bonnie ran faster for me when the fs was xfs |
| [16:15:54] | zo0m: | 4096gig file |
| [16:16:00] | zo0m: | but that was just me i dunno to each their own |
| [16:16:06] | Cowman: | right now I'm thinking about scrapping my current myth machine and delegating that task to my personal fileserver. I'm just working out how I want to make that work right now |
| [16:16:13] | zo0m: | er 4096meg LOL |
| [16:16:21] | zo0m: | 4096gig raid5 would be impressive! |
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| [16:16:50] | mkrufky: | FusionHDTV 5 Express works! |
| [16:17:00] | mkrufky: | :-D |
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| [16:18:00] | zo0m: | comparisons i found online were 4years old.. |
| [16:18:05] | trevarthan: | Is there a mythtv update for the new schedulesdirect service for Fedora Core 5? |
| [16:18:10] | zo0m: | so didnt trust them |
| [16:18:25] | trevarthan: | It looks like the FC5 atrpms repo has gone away.... |
| [16:19:18] | trevarthan: | schedulesdirect needs a software update, right? |
| [16:19:35] | zo0m: | 0.20.2 |
| [16:20:01] | Cowman: | does myth have any issues running in a x64 environment? |
| [16:20:25] | janneg: | Cowman: no |
| [16:20:51] | mkrufky: | trevarthan: i had to upgrade my fc5 box to f7 for that same reason |
| [16:21:15] | Cowman: | will it compile x64 or do you need ia32 compatability libraries |
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| [16:21:57] | janneg: | Cowman: it works fine with native 64bit |
| [16:22:10] | Cowman: | k, thanks |
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| [16:22:35] | Cowman: | last time I installed an x64 distro, had lots of problems with software that needed 32-bit libraries installed to work right |
| [16:23:24] | Cowman: | but I think x64 does seem to run just a tiny bit faster |
| [16:23:40] | lwizardl: | anyone use antenna's? |
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| [16:23:52] | iamben: | lwizardl: i do, but not for hd |
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| [16:24:34] | lwizardl: | iamben, well i'm not really using it for hd either currently. |
| [16:24:36] | ChrisAshton84: | Hi, I'm having a couple of problems, could anyone help: |
| [16:24:39] | Cowman: | I wish someone would release a linux compatable cap card that would let me cap HDTV from my satelite reciever |
| [16:24:44] | ChrisAshton84: | 1) capture/Mic is my alsa device, but right now myth is adjusting capture/PCM creating an echo. |
| [16:24:46] | ChrisAshton84: | 2) had schedulesdirect working, but after reinstalling myth to fix sound, it doesn't filldatabase just gets Unknown for everything |
| [16:24:58] | Cowman: | all the HD cards are OTA only though :( |
| [16:25:00] | lwizardl: | iamben, do you suddenly lose sinal on fox? |
| [16:25:34] | iamben: | lwizardl: i do not. i consistently get piss-poor reception though =) |
| [16:25:35] | trevarthan: | mkrufky: what version of mythtv supports schedules direct? 0.21? |
| [16:25:49] | Cowman: | .20.2 |
| [16:25:59] | trevarthan: | ok. cool. |
| [16:26:12] | kieran491: | so no one has had the problem where mythttv treats "DVB Card Number" 0 and 1 as the same adapater (adapater1) ? |
| [16:26:39] | lwizardl: | iamben, hmm because if I use my hd tuner i get the channels in and they look nice but after about 5mins they start to lose signal and then come back in |
| [16:26:48] | mkrufky: | trevarthan: 0.20.2 |
| [16:27:46] | janneg: | kieran491: no, can you check the capturecard table for the videodevice entries of your dvb cards |
| [16:28:09] | kieran491: | hmm ok |
| [16:29:26] | kieran491: | but i only have the one DVB card and thats the only TVTuner in the computer |
| [16:31:49] | ChrisAshton84: | for the schedules direct issue, I get "did not find any new program data" for every file it downloads |
| [16:33:32] | kieran491: | videodevice is set to 0 for the tvtuner card |
| [16:33:39] | kieran491: | but its using adapater1 |
| [16:36:24] | janneg: | kieran491: there shouldn't be a adapter1 if you hav only one dvb card |
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| [16:36:43] | kieran491: | i know thats what i am having problems with |
| [16:37:00] | kieran491: | its treating DVB Card Number 0,1 as the same adapter |
| [16:37:38] | janneg: | are you sure you don't mix up mythtv's cardid which starts at 1 with the dvb adapter number? |
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| [16:38:31] | ChrisAshton84: | "DataDirect, Error: UpdateProgramViewTable no dd_state!" google's only hit isn't my problem, so I don't know how to get this working |
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| [16:38:39] | kieran491: | i have the following dvb in my dev /dev/dvb/adapter0/ when i choose DVB Card Number 0 i get /dev/dvb/adapter1/ when i choose DVB Card Number 1 i get /dev/dvb/adapter1/ |
| [16:40:18] | janneg: | kieran491: please paste logs which shows the problem to a pastebin |
| [16:40:25] | dillweed: | i was wondering why my fonts are so small? I've migrated my database to a new system and the fonts are really small. If I use a new default database my fonts are fine. Everything seems to be the same as far as font size is concerned, but my fonts seem to be really small with my old databases somehow. Any suggestions? |
| [16:40:31] | kieran491: | umm ok |
| [16:40:43] | kieran491: | i will post my mythtv-setup output |
| [16:42:40] | kieran491: | http://pastebin.ca/687265 |
| [16:43:18] | kieran491: | i would like to point out ahead of time i was switiching between DVB Card Number 0 and 1 |
| [16:46:56] | janneg: | and you didn't switched three time to 1? which version do you use? |
| [16:47:29] | kieran491: | umm |
| [16:47:41] | kieran491: | how can you find out? |
| [16:48:35] | kieran491: | o.20 |
| [16:48:37] | kieran491: | 0.20 |
| [16:48:53] | kieran491: | i got it off the SVN |
| [16:52:31] | ChrisAshton84: | no one able to help with schedules direct? |
| [16:52:41] | kieran491: | i got it from "http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv" |
| [17:02:49] | Chase: | I'm upgrading stuff again to try to get dvb to work right |
| [17:03:07] | Chase: | when switched from analog to dvb, then back to analog, then back to dvb, dvb fails |
| [17:03:14] | Chase: | can't get a lock |
| [17:03:22] | Chase: | anyone seen this before? |
| [17:03:55] | Chase: | I'm using a gentoo 0.20.2 ebuild |
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| [17:06:48] | Chase: | I have to restart the mythbackend to fix |
| [17:07:25] | Chase: | and if I go from analog to dvb, right now I make sure to exit out of tv playback and enter back in so I don't screw up mythbackend |
| [17:08:02] | kieran491: | janneg: ? |
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| [17:10:31] | janneg: | kieran491: that's not 0.20 but svn trunk. when did you get it? |
| [17:11:10] | kieran491: | yesterday |
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| [17:11:36] | kieran491: | janneg: yesterday |
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| [17:16:24] | janneg: | and you haven't modified it? |
| [17:16:38] | kieran491: | janneg: nop |
| [17:18:13] | janneg: | kieran491: and does mythbackend works if the videodevice in capturecard table is 0? |
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| [17:19:13] | kieran491: | i have'nt started that mythbackend yet i am still trying to set it all up |
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| [17:19:26] | kieran491: | janneg: i have'nt started that mythbackend yet i am still trying to set it all up |
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| [17:48:43] | defaultro: | hey folks, I've got a channel 670 from my comcast stb. What are my options to record this? |
| [17:49:16] | Dagmar: | If you're watching it, you're already recording it |
| [17:49:40] | defaultro: | nope, my capture card isn't able to see that channel |
| [17:49:53] | Dagmar: | Then you have no options |
| [17:49:55] | defaultro: | oh |
| [17:49:57] | clearzen: | Is there any development being done for the CX23418 chipset? |
| [17:50:01] | Dagmar: | ...and probably shoudln't be asking about that in here |
| [17:50:06] | laga: | clearzen: try #linuxtv |
| [17:50:07] | defaultro: | what? |
| [17:50:21] | defaultro: | what is wrong with my question? |
| [17:50:29] | clearzen: | thanks |
| [17:50:31] | Dagmar: | Those high numbers tend to be the on-demand stuff of "persons unknown" |
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| [17:50:42] | defaultro: | it's not on demand neither HD |
| [17:50:54] | defaultro: | it's actually even a poor mpg 2 encoding |
| [17:51:02] | defaultro: | it's just for my wifer |
| [17:51:05] | defaultro: | wifey |
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| [17:51:10] | Dagmar: | Hmm... |
| [17:51:30] | defaultro: | maybe, stb's rca output to a capture card |
| [17:51:34] | Dagmar: | I'd be poking at *why* the tuner card can't see it |
| [17:51:43] | defaultro: | it's in the high number |
| [17:51:53] | Dagmar: | Meh that doesn't really mean anything |
| [17:52:01] | defaultro: | and qam can only see 125 correct? |
| [17:52:06] | Dagmar: | Channel numbers don't have a whole lot to do with broadcast frequencies most of the time |
| [17:52:12] | defaultro: | oh |
| [17:52:23] | Dagmar: | No, I suspect you're thinking of broadcast cable freqs there |
| [17:52:26] | defaultro: | i can go inside the stb and grab the frequency |
| [17:52:30] | defaultro: | yes |
| [17:52:33] | defaultro: | you are correct |
| [17:52:37] | defaultro: | but |
| [17:52:40] | Dagmar: | STB == digital transport, right? |
| [17:52:47] | defaultro: | i thought QAM was for cable |
| [17:52:59] | defaultro: | stb = set top box |
| [17:53:12] | Dagmar: | Quadratrure Amplitude Modulation is usually what you hear bandied about with digital |
| [17:53:38] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [17:54:08] | defaultro: | will it help if i go inside the stb and look for some info? I remember seeing QAM64 something |
| [17:54:19] | Dagmar: | It can't hurt |
| [17:54:33] | defaultro: | ok but don't know what I will do next if I found out about it :P |
| [17:54:46] | Dagmar: | Anything indicating the channel number is that high is almost certainly going to be digital tho |
| [17:54:53] | defaultro: | ok |
| [17:54:55] | Dagmar: | Look up frequency tables with Google |
| [17:54:59] | defaultro: | k |
| [17:55:04] | defaultro: | let me check it now |
| [17:55:16] | Dagmar: | If your tuner card only does analog, it's the RCA input route you go |
| [17:55:18] | defaultro: | if it's digital, I'm hoping that that channel isn't encrypted |
| [17:55:31] | defaultro: | tuner card is fusion hdtv lite |
| [17:55:43] | defaultro: | so hopefully, channel isn't encrypted |
| [17:55:44] | defaultro: | brb |
| [17:55:49] | Dagmar: | Hopefully it won't be 5c'd up |
| [17:56:10] | iamben: | is there an faq somewhere for "prebuffering pause" issues? i just assumed mine was due to my store being on nfs (then reiserfs) but now im writing to a local jfs drive and it still stutters |
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| [18:01:40] | Aval0n: | hey guys, one the program guide and on mythweb you get information about the year a show or movie was aired as well as star raitings. But this doesn't show up when you use Info 'I'. I have looked through every menu I have and found nothing. Is it possible to have this show up with 'I'? |
| [18:02:07] | defaultro: | I'm back, here is what I saw |
| [18:02:31] | defaultro: | FREQ: 777.000 MHz TYPE: Digital MODE: QAM256 |
| [18:02:53] | defaultro: | but on the TYPE, it says ENC at the far right :( |
| [18:03:02] | defaultro: | TYPE: Digital ENC |
| [18:03:06] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [18:03:26] | defaultro: | so looks like I will be able to dump it to the harddrive but won't be able to watch it |
| [18:04:08] | defaultro: | looks like my only route is via RCA ports |
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| [18:05:01] | defaultro: | iamben, what video card? |
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| [18:19:03] | iamben: | defaultro: pvr-250 |
| [18:19:36] | iamben: | oh if you mean for output, its a gf4 mx440 w/ nvidia binary drivers |
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| [18:30:06] | PSU: | Has anyone ever had a problem with the incorrect total time that is listed during playback of a DVD ripped with mythdvd? For example, I just ripped a 2hr 30 mins movie and when I play it back, it is listed as 10 minutes and some secs. The whole movie appears to be there but the time that is displayed during playback seems way off...this has happened to the three movies that I ripped using mythdvd. |
| [18:39:07] | mkrufky: | ok, DViCO FusionHDTV5 Express is now supported in this tree http://linuxtv.org/hg/~mkrufky/cx23885 .... installation howto @ http://linuxtv.org/repo .... feel free to test and give me feedback — I already tested and it works 8-) |
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| [18:50:35] | Bearcat: | hey folks, i need some basic help here. I'm looking at the record options in the documentation and i'm still confused. I want to record all episides of the show "psyche" which i have not recorded before. Within my schedual data there are two episodes that are repeated all week. I want to record both episodes once. |
| [18:50:44] | Bearcat: | What option do i want for that? |
| [18:51:41] | Bearcat: | Does "title" refer to the show name or the episode name? |
| [18:51:51] | kdubya: | it wont record something you already have |
| [18:51:58] | kdubya: | you dont have to do anything |
| [18:54:06] | Bearcat: | kdubya: well this week there 5 showings of psyche: one unknown with a default description, one called "Rockaby", one called "bounty hunters". Bounty hunters is repeated 4 times. I just want one of each of these. Would that be "Record One Showing of this TItle"? |
| [18:55:31] | kdubya: | i think you just pick record this show at all times on all channels |
| [18:55:42] | kdubya: | and if it already has an episode it wont record it |
| [18:56:53] | Bearcat: | cool. Thanx. I *think* that worked |
| [18:56:59] | kdubya: | yeah |
| [18:57:04] | kdubya: | i just checked |
| [18:57:10] | kdubya: | thats what i do and i dont get repeats |
| [18:57:21] | kdubya: | and suddenly all channels are black and white |
| [18:57:26] | kdubya: | thats awesome |
| [18:57:31] | Bearcat: | whooot! |
| [18:57:40] | Bearcat: | Quick! Watch Casablanca! |
| [18:57:57] | kdubya: | heh |
| [18:58:04] | Bearcat: | i've run into that before. Are you useing DVB? |
| [18:58:20] | Bearcat: | it seems to happen when your channel frequencies are out of whack |
| [18:58:26] | kdubya: | i have a DVB card but it isnt working |
| [18:58:32] | kdubya: | this is a pvr150 |
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| [18:59:07] | Bearcat: | oh for $%s sake! I've been playing with the options for 10 minutes wonderign why nothing was changing. I was forgetting to hit save. |
| [18:59:15] | jerickso: | hi all |
| [18:59:37] | Bearcat: | i think i prefer the web interface. It's seems more powerful and quicker to access stuff |
| [19:00:10] | jerickso: | has anyone else had the 'UpdateProgramViewTable no dd_state' problem with schedulesdirect? |
| [19:00:20] | kdubya: | hmm |
| [19:00:27] | kdubya: | black and white football games suck |
| [19:00:27] | jerickso: | when you try running mythfilldatabase that is |
| [19:01:00] | BULLE: | kdubya: hmmm, are we talking real football, or american "football" ? |
| [19:01:20] | kdubya: | that *is* real football |
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| [19:06:42] | Mr_Grieves__: | I've got a question – I'm using the mythtv and mythplugins from feisty-proposed on ubuntu (the ones in the main repo don't support schedulesdirect yet), and when I go to setup the DVD player it complains about version error (20060828 vs. 20070821). |
| [19:07:25] | laga: | Mr_Grieves__: did you reinstall mythdvd? |
| [19:07:27] | Mr_Grieves__: | I typically don't use ubuntu, so I'm not sure where to go to get a matching libmyth version. |
| [19:08:45] | kdubya: | rebooting fixed my black and white-ness |
| [19:08:50] | kdubya: | you can all rest easy |
| [19:09:04] | Mr_Grieves__: | laga: I installed mythplugins from the feisty-proposed repo. I thought it would catch it ;) I was wrong! I reinstalled mythdvd alone and it works now :) thanks |
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| [19:09:31] | ** Bearcat breathes a sigh of relief for kdubya ** | |
| [19:09:53] | laga: | Mr_Grieves__: use dpkg -l *myth* to find out about the version of mythtv $stuff on your system |
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| [19:10:29] | Bearcat: | so i'm curious. how many of you use the web interface over the X interface? |
| [19:10:45] | kdubya: | to set recordings? |
| [19:10:53] | Bearcat: | yeah or whatever |
| [19:11:05] | kdubya: | the only thing i use the web interface for is to delete channels |
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| [19:11:25] | Mr_Grieves__: | laga: thanks for the tip :) |
| [19:11:30] | Mr_Grieves__: | \part |
| [19:11:35] | Bearcat: | of course i'm using this on my monitor, not my TV |
| [19:11:40] | kdubya: | using the web interface usualy requires movement to the TV |
| [19:11:41] | kdubya: | er |
| [19:11:43] | kdubya: | computer* |
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| [19:11:54] | kdubya: | yeah, i have a dedicated mythbox in the livingroom |
| [19:12:00] | Bearcat: | kdubya: that would make the difference |
| [19:13:37] | Bearcat: | so i have a minor problem. I seems that i have a whole bunch of channels in my db that i did not select via SD. They are probably left over from DD. I note there is a command to make mythfilldatabase delete new channels that are not in your db, but i'd like to do the opposite. Am i best off just deleting the channels manually via mythfrontend? |
| [19:14:06] | kdubya: | id delete them with mythweb |
| [19:14:42] | Bearcat: | ahh, there we go. Cool! |
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| [19:26:53] | kdubya: | asdfadf |
| [19:27:22] | laga: | ack |
| [19:28:13] | kdubya: | records |
| [19:28:17] | kdubya: | lack |
| [19:28:18] | kdubya: | color |
| [19:28:24] | kdubya: | recordings* |
| [19:28:36] | laga: | call up the technicolor guys? |
| [19:29:27] | kdubya: | that probably wouldnt be very time or cost effective |
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| [19:38:49] | ol_schoola: | i'm hanging a plasma <vvvvbg> |
| [19:40:09] | ol_schoola: | power is done, low voltage chase is run and retro plaster rings installed, bracket is next |
| [19:40:58] | ol_schoola: | i think i'll grab the camera and document it |
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| [19:46:57] | Jakal: | can anyone gimme a hand? i got my myth tv all setup. but my tv cuts off about an inche of the screen all around. so some of the menus are very difficult to read. any solution? |
| [19:47:47] | laga: | Jakal: go to wiki.mythtv.org and read up on overscan |
| [19:48:44] | Jakal: | i found the overscan howto. but that tells me what to do if it has a black border. |
| [19:48:52] | Jakal: | ive kinda got the oppisite problem |
| [19:49:20] | laga: | same problem |
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| [19:50:27] | Jakal: | hmm. ill take another look. but i dont know linux to much. |
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| [19:51:00] | kdubya: | jakal |
| [19:51:08] | kdubya: | how are you connecting your computer to the tv |
| [19:51:33] | Jakal: | Svideo |
| [19:52:20] | kdubya: | oh if you dont have an hdtv i would just adjust the GUI |
| [19:52:41] | Jakal: | how do i do that? |
| [19:52:41] | kdubya: | because i assume you are not going to be using the desktop much |
| [19:52:55] | Jakal: | nah. its strictly a myth tv |
| [19:52:58] | kdubya: | somewhere in the options on mythtv |
| [19:53:09] | kdubya: | hold on ill let you know |
| [19:53:18] | Jakal: | thanks |
| [19:54:17] | Aval0n: | hey guys, one the program guide and on mythweb you get information about the year a show or movie was aired as well as star raitings. But this doesn't show up when you use Info 'I'. I have looked through every menu I have and found nothing. Is it possible to have this show up with 'I'? |
| [19:54:42] | kdubya: | setup – appearance then hit next |
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| [19:55:35] | kdubya: | GUI width and height |
| [19:55:45] | kdubya: | mess with that stuff until it fits |
| [19:55:45] | Aval0n: | jakal |
| [19:55:50] | Aval0n: | I just dealt with my overscan |
| [19:55:54] | Aval0n: | what do you have going on? |
| [19:56:09] | Aval0n: | symptoms, vid card, monitor etc.. |
| [19:56:36] | kdubya: | he just needs to scale the gui |
| [19:57:04] | Jakal: | tv is a regualr tv connected to the mythtv with Svideo. card is an nvidia 5600 |
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| [19:57:19] | Aval0n: | what res |
| [19:57:38] | Aval0n: | kdubya has told you right just scale the gui :) |
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| [19:57:47] | Aval0n: | I had overscan with my plasma |
| [19:57:59] | Aval0n: | drove me crazy |
| [19:58:04] | kdubya: | yeah |
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| [19:58:17] | kdubya: | how did you fix it |
| [19:58:18] | Aval0n: | 1280x720 had my ubuntu menu bars hidden |
| [19:58:35] | Aval0n: | well my hdmi setup is a little different than yours |
| [19:58:39] | mistone: | Aval0n: I have that to |
| [19:58:48] | Aval0n: | but I ended up using nvidia-settings to "scale to center" |
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| [19:58:56] | kdubya: | that works? |
| [19:58:57] | mistone: | I am still trying to get 1080i |
| [19:58:59] | Aval0n: | and I put a custom res in xorg.conf with 1280x720 timings |
| [19:59:03] | kdubya: | i have a custom modeline |
| [19:59:08] | kdubya: | oh |
| [19:59:11] | kdubya: | yeah thats what i did |
| [19:59:22] | mistone: | I just used parse-edid and it gave me the modelines |
| [19:59:35] | mistone: | but 1080i still does't work |
| [19:59:41] | Aval0n: | via hdmi? |
| [19:59:42] | kdubya: | that will give you modelines that have overscan mistone |
| [19:59:45] | Aval0n: | what manufacturer? |
| [19:59:48] | mistone: | yea it did |
| [19:59:51] | kdubya: | unless you can set 1:1 with yourTV |
| [20:00:02] | Aval0n: | you can't set 1:1 with hdmi |
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| [20:00:06] | Aval0n: | you have to use the VGA connector |
| [20:00:08] | kdubya: | you can on some |
| [20:00:11] | Aval0n: | SOME |
| [20:00:14] | Aval0n: | like 1 in 1000 |
| [20:00:15] | Aval0n: | :P |
| [20:00:21] | kdubya: | i really wish i got one that did |
| [20:00:27] | mistone: | atcually I think I can on mine |
| [20:00:34] | kdubya: | then you are lucky |
| [20:00:59] | Aval0n: | anyone |
| [20:01:03] | mistone: | oh nope |
| [20:01:04] | Aval0n: | anyway* |
| [20:01:23] | Aval0n: | anyone ever notice that when you hit I you don't get the full info that you do in program guide or mythweb |
| [20:01:38] | mistone: | yea to be honest it look pretty bad |
| [20:01:46] | Bearcat: | Aval0n: yeah. That's been bugging me |
| [20:01:47] | mistone: | I need to fix the modeline |
| [20:01:55] | Aval0n: | I wish I could fix it |
| [20:02:02] | kdubya: | Aval0n it is probably the OSD theme |
| [20:02:04] | Aval0n: | that and my backened just randomly crashes heh |
| [20:02:08] | kdubya: | you would have to edit the theme to get more info |
| [20:02:11] | Aval0n: | kdubya I don't think so |
| [20:02:17] | Aval0n: | I tried like 4 themes |
| [20:02:40] | mistone: | oh also: schedulesdirect isnt showing up as a input source :O |
| [20:02:45] | mistone: | I see datadirect |
| [20:02:46] | kdubya: | what does "i" do for you? |
| [20:02:53] | Aval0n: | you run .20.2? |
| [20:02:56] | mistone: | not schedulesdirect |
| [20:02:56] | kdubya: | mistone, you need to update myth |
| [20:02:59] | Aval0n: | I is information button |
| [20:02:59] | mistone: | yea i dd |
| [20:03:06] | mistone: | its .20.2 |
| [20:03:14] | kdubya: | heh |
| [20:03:15] | mistone: | I double checked |
| [20:03:25] | kdubya: | for me i shows the time bar thing |
| [20:03:31] | Aval0n: | it also bugs me that I have to hi I twice to get the info screen |
| [20:03:35] | Aval0n: | hit* |
| [20:03:55] | mistone: | waiiit |
| [20:03:56] | mistone: | 0.20.20060828–3 |
| [20:03:58] | Aval0n: | ahh well, I can't really bitch much. awesome free software |
| [20:04:11] | mistone: | thats still .0.2 isn't it |
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| [20:05:05] | Jakal: | there we go |
| [20:05:07] | Jakal: | thanks for the assist |
| [20:05:10] | laga: | it's 0.20 |
| [20:05:14] | laga: | not 0.2 ;) |
| [20:06:03] | mistone: | er yea |
| [20:06:06] | mistone: | :/ |
| [20:06:22] | mistone: | so its not in the ubuntu repos yet? |
| [20:06:39] | Aval0n: | go into software updates |
| [20:06:48] | mistone: | yea I did |
| [20:06:53] | Aval0n: | and enable proposed |
| [20:06:59] | mistone: | oh |
| [20:07:20] | Aval0n: | under updates tab methinks |
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| [20:07:35] | mistone: | there is a software sources thinge |
| [20:07:56] | Aval0n: | it's there trust me |
| [20:08:01] | iamben: | if i'm getting "prebuffering pause" when i first start watching live tv, where should i look for problems? |
| [20:08:07] | Aval0n: | not the package manager |
| [20:08:10] | Aval0n: | but software updates |
| [20:08:17] | mistone: | yea i enabled it |
| [20:10:32] | Aval0n: | then you should be good |
| [20:10:38] | Aval0n: | that's how I'm running it |
| [20:11:19] | Aval0n: | yeah |
| [20:11:24] | mistone: | yep its insallin the updates now |
| [20:11:34] | Aval0n: | I've tried several OSD themes and nothing is showing all the info like porgram guide or mythweb |
| [20:14:03] | Bearcat: | iamben: i belive it has to do that to fill up the buffer. |
| [20:15:28] | Aval0n: | it WAS the osd theme |
| [20:15:32] | Aval0n: | I found one with more info. |
| [20:15:34] | Aval0n: | hmm |
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| [20:16:29] | jerickso: | has anyone else seen mythfilldatabase issues after upgrading to .20.2? I'm getting errors about dd_state |
| [20:16:41] | iamben: | Bearcat: then shouldnt it just hold off on playback until the buffer fills up? rather than play jerky for the first 10 seconds? |
| [20:17:23] | Bearcat: | oh. Yeah, that it should do i'd think. At least mine does |
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| [20:18:53] | Bearcat: | The one thing that mythtv does not do that i would really love is the ability to switch back and forth from full-screen to a window. I have a feeling it will never do that though as people are oriented to "display it on my tv" |
| [20:21:29] | [M-M]_: | I think it used to be able to do that, a few years ago. But I think it was removed when the app was reorganized to use only one window |
| [20:21:39] | Bearcat: | *nods* |
| [20:22:26] | jerickso: | i don't recall it ever letting you toggle between full screen and windowed, but I don't think I've ever used it windowed either |
| [20:22:37] | Bearcat: | although i have a thought (look scared people): You can run in full-screen and just go to a different desktop right? So, i wonder if you could use compiz to display that desktop in a small window on other screens. |
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| [20:25:01] | [M-M]_: | jerickso: as I recall, you used to be able to use F to toggle. might have been just the playback window, though... I don't recall much; it was quite a while ago :) |
| [20:25:28] | jerickso: | [M-M]_: I think that was just playback. It was quite a bit ago |
| [20:26:53] | [M-M]_: | jerickso: as I think about it that rings more of a bell. I seem to recall I used it because the UI was too slow for me at my native 1600x1200 res, so I'd set it for 800x600 and use Ctrl-Alt-+ to change the screen res... but then the playback window would go back to 1600x1200 and run way off the edge :) |
| [20:27:36] | jerickso: | [M-M]_: yep, now if I can just sort out my new SD.org issue |
| [20:28:10] | [M-M]_: | and I just need to sort out my MythArchive issue :) |
| [20:28:26] | jerickso: | yeah, well, atleast you can record stuff... |
| [20:28:27] | jerickso: | grr |
| [20:28:35] | [M-M]_: | :( |
| [20:29:01] | [M-M]_: | wish I could offer some assistance, but I don't know much about mythfilldatabase except that it's working for me :/ |
| [20:29:08] | jerickso: | np |
| [20:29:36] | jerickso: | this happened after the 0.20.2 upgrade. |
| [20:30:10] | jerickso: | I've been running this long enough its no wonder I hit an ugly issue |
| [20:32:41] | jerickso: | it looks like it isn't creating a temp table during the run, 'though no errors are thrown when it is created |
| [20:36:16] | iamben: | jerickso: im having some issues now ever since my 7 day trial ran out... i have since reactivated my account, but its just showing blank listings now |
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| [20:37:07] | jerickso: | iamben: i just signed up today, so this is a fresh account |
| [20:37:49] | jerickso: | iamben: the only references I've found to my errors are things around case sensitivity on the auth credentials and just not setting things up right |
| [20:38:34] | jerickso: | iamben: it pulls the channel list down fine, but it doesn't get any program info |
| [20:38:56] | iamben: | thats what its doing for me now |
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| [20:39:40] | jerickso: | iamben: are you getting errors in your mythfilldatabase output? |
| [20:40:02] | iamben: | only thing i can see in the output that may be an issue is: 2007-09–08 15:37:41.850 DataDirect, Error: UpdateProgramViewTable no dd_state! |
| [20:40:32] | jerickso: | I'm trolling the debug info now, it is actually pulling program info down. it just isn't populating that dd_state table |
| [20:40:37] | jerickso: | yeah, same issue I have |
| [20:40:46] | jerickso: | are you using ubuntu-proposed packages? |
| [20:41:26] | jerickso: | at least someone else is sharing my issues... :/ |
| [20:42:09] | iamben: | im on gentoo |
| [20:42:14] | jerickso: | k |
| [20:42:22] | jerickso: | that makes me feel better |
| [20:43:00] | jerickso: | i recently moved away from gentoo for my myth setup. I'm just glad it isn't an issue with broken packages |
| [20:43:59] | [M-M]_: | hm, there is mention of that dd_state message in the users mailing list |
| [20:44:22] | [M-M]_: | although it might be a different problem |
| [20:44:25] | jerickso: | pretty sure I saw that one already, will go look again |
| [20:44:48] | [M-M]_: | doh... I'm trying to be helpful and you go and crush my dreams ;-) |
| [20:44:49] | [M-M]_: | hehe |
| [20:44:51] | jerickso: | subject of: SD-Mythfilldatabase problem ?? |
| [20:45:10] | [M-M]_: | yeah, that's the one |
| [20:45:11] | jerickso: | wow.. you've got pretty lame dreams |
| [20:45:15] | [M-M]_: | haha :) |
| [20:45:28] | [M-M]_: | well, I have to work this weekend, so I've got low expectations ;-) |
| [20:45:36] | jerickso: | heh |
| [20:45:51] | [M-M]_: | and notice what I'm doing instead of working ;-) |
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| [20:46:23] | Yahooadam: | hmm i guess juski went on holiday :( |
| [20:46:41] | laga: | why yes, he did. |
| [20:47:13] | jerickso: | [M-M]_: fair enough |
| [20:52:21] | iamben: | i just created a new video source, and when i go to fetch listings the first time it says "Did not find any new program data" for every day it tries |
| [20:53:02] | iamben: | this could be a problem |
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| [20:53:57] | BHSPitMonkey: | Hi all |
| [20:54:19] | BHSPitMonkey: | Is anyone in here, by chance, using LinuxMCE? |
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| [20:56:06] | Dagmar: | THis is very much the wrong channel for that |
| [20:57:42] | BHSPitMonkey: | I was afraid that might be the case, but it was worth a shot. |
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| [21:11:47] | [M-M]_: | I'm having problems with MythArchive... it fails (after processing for a long time) when I use HQ mode, but works fine if I use SP |
| [21:11:56] | [M-M]_: | 2007-09–08 15:25:23 Didn't find any video elements in stream info file.!!! |
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| [21:42:50] | iamben: | jerickso: i just did a from-scratch setup and i still have the probem =( are you using latest trunk? |
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| [21:58:27] | RaZer0r: | hi |
| [21:58:30] | RaZer0r: | someone here? |
| [21:58:45] | RaZer0r: | (well a not idle person that is :p) |
| [21:59:19] | xris: | RaZer0r: lots of idle people here |
| [21:59:27] | RaZer0r: | uhu |
| [21:59:31] | RaZer0r: | i noticed |
| [22:00:07] | RaZer0r: | anyhow, the question is, i'm having a fairly low spec system, but it ran ubuntu for some time |
| [22:00:29] | RaZer0r: | i decided to make it into a mythtv system |
| [22:00:54] | RaZer0r: | and was wondering, is there such thing as a lightwight distro which runs it just optimal? |
| [22:01:13] | xris: | not really |
| [22:01:39] | xris: | the main problem with running on older hardware is that it doesn't have enough power to do the video encoding/decoding |
| [22:01:41] | RaZer0r: | so if i just put a text based debian server on it, and install it from there, what would you suggest? |
| [22:01:44] | xris: | holw old of a system? |
| [22:01:57] | RaZer0r: | well the tvcard is an mpeg2 streamer |
| [22:02:08] | RaZer0r: | cpu is a 1.2 ghz |
| [22:02:18] | xris: | that should be plenty if you have a hardware encoder card |
| [22:02:30] | RaZer0r: | only ram is 256 mb atm |
| [22:02:38] | xris: | just use a lightweight window manager like xfce or one of the "box" ones (e.g. blackbox) |
| [22:02:53] | RaZer0r: | k |
| [22:03:02] | xris: | ram is a little low, but should be ok if you're running 640x480 |
| [22:03:05] | RaZer0r: | might go for xfce |
| [22:03:20] | RaZer0r: | hmmz i was thinking about 1024x768 |
| [22:03:28] | iamben: | if you plan on using mythtv only, and in full screen, even xfce is overkill |
| [22:03:49] | RaZer0r: | it shall be a mythtv box only no other use for it :) |
| [22:03:56] | xris: | mythtv loads its theme files into RAM after resizing them... so the lower res you use, the less RAM those take up. |
| [22:04:22] | RaZer0r: | so a text based debian install, and a mythv backend – frontend install should be enough? |
| [22:04:26] | xris: | and TV is rarely more than 480 lines tall, so you won't gain much by using a higher res.. and your machine won't do HD. |
| [22:04:33] | BHSPitMonkey: | RaZer0r, 640 is all you need if it's going to a sd tv |
| [22:04:35] | RaZer0r: | no idd :) |
| [22:04:37] | RaZer0r: | k |
| [22:04:42] | xris: | RaZer0r: if you're going debian, you might look into knopmyth |
| [22:05:02] | RaZer0r: | debian or ubuntu servers |
| [22:05:08] | RaZer0r: | that's my choice atm |
| [22:05:56] | xris: | knopmyth is debian |
| [22:05:59] | RaZer0r: | (ubuntu has out of the box support for my hauppage 150mce ;) that's why the ubuntu choice |
| [22:06:08] | RaZer0r: | knopmyth, googling it right now :p |
| [22:06:50] | xris: | knoppix is a debian-based distro that pre configures a lot of hardware so you get a fully-working system without much effort. Knopmyth takes knoppix and does the same for mythtv and video hardware. |
| [22:07:21] | RaZer0r: | hmmz |
| [22:07:24] | RaZer0r: | handy |
| [22:07:50] | xris: | yup |
| [22:07:51] | RaZer0r: | and my ati graka? :p (it's an old pci, as the on board motherboard vga died some time ago) |
| [22:07:56] | xris: | good for the people who like .deb |
| [22:08:06] | xris: | I couldn't handle ubuntu. I like rpm too much (as a developer) |
| [22:08:13] | RaZer0r: | ah :) |
| [22:08:20] | xris: | ati and linux don't get along very well, at least for tv-out |
| [22:08:32] | xris: | if you're using a monitor, the open source radeon driver is pretty decent |
| [22:08:46] | RaZer0r: | i know, trying to get my vga to svideo convertor working |
| [22:10:13] | xris: | it might be easier to track down a $20 pci 5200fx |
| [22:10:15] | xris: | that's what I use |
| [22:11:02] | iamben: | i bought a mobo w/ onboard gf4mx w/ svideo out, i was pretty excited when i found out they made one |
| [22:11:03] | RaZer0r: | :) to bad i don't have agp port on that mobo |
| [22:11:38] | RaZer0r: | i would have used my gf4mx440 too ;) |
| [22:11:51] | xris: | that's why I went pci |
| [22:12:05] | xris: | well, and my current mythbox doesn't have agp, either. just 2 pci slots |
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| [22:12:12] | RaZer0r: | :) |
| [22:12:45] | RaZer0r: | i'll see what the ati drivers do, if they lock up too much i'll be looking for a nvidia pci card |
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| [22:14:27] | ** xris likes to watch the Schedules Direct user numbers keep going up ** | |
| [22:14:33] | ol_schoola: | hah, all i got is some nforce3 agp mobos — need to get off my ass and order something new |
| [22:14:50] | xris: | ol_schoola: just bought myself a nice new core2duo board/proc/etc... |
| [22:14:58] | xris: | and then left the chassis at work (where I had it delivered0. |
| [22:14:59] | ** ol_schoola will add one more tick when i buildf .20.2 tonight ** | |
| [22:15:11] | iamben: | xris: SD is broken for me again, for jerickso also |
| [22:15:17] | xris: | granted, the hard drives are the only other part I've received. |
| [22:15:19] | directhex: | my current mythbox has a dual-core 3ghz chip, a gig of ECC RAM, and 8 hard disks :x |
| [22:15:20] | xris: | iamben: what's not working? |
| [22:15:27] | ol_schoola: | xris: really? worth it? i freakin LOVE my new macbook pro |
| [22:15:29] | directhex: | plus a motherboard with PCI, PCIe and PCI-X |
| [22:15:47] | iamben: | it fetches fine, doesnt seem to populate the DB properly... lemme pastebin the log, its hard for me to tell which errors & warnings are serious and which arent |
| [22:16:03] | xris: | ol_schoola: I get some nice discounts from intel.. actually bought a quad core proc for $140, which is going to replace the 1.8G core2duo in my server (which will go into the mythbox) |
| [22:16:08] | MrJackson: | is anyone using a HDHomeRun w/ myth 20.2 (or the latest svn) and schedules direct? i'm having problems getting a channel list |
| [22:16:50] | directhex: | i occasionally get root menus displaying funny when using Internal to watch DVDs. is that something anyone else has gotten? |
| [22:17:17] | ol_schoola: | xris: if i plan to run vmware and xp on it a core2 duo, you think i'll have any hitches as a mbe/fe with a PVR 350? |
| [22:17:29] | RaZer0r: | well i hope i can set it up as i want |
| [22:17:31] | ol_schoola: | and an HD Homerun? |
| [22:17:41] | RaZer0r: | i got a central file server |
| [22:17:46] | iamben: | oh crap its a 4M log file, maybe i won't pastebin quite all of it |
| [22:17:54] | directhex: | ol_schoola, nobody likes the 350 anymore, unless you treat it as a 150 |
| [22:18:04] | HeatHawk[LI]: | hey guys, anyone know why my keyboard and mouse go berserk when mythtv is recording stuff, the keyboard enters random stuff and my mouse goes hay wire, the tuner is a WinTV USB 2 |
| [22:18:10] | xris: | ol_schoola: not a clue. you'll need a lot of RAM, though. I have a hard time with 2G in my linux workstation with XP inside of vmware |
| [22:18:25] | xris: | HeatHawk[LI]: usb kb/mouse? |
| [22:18:45] | ol_schoola: | dHex: i know, bought back around .15 or .16 and it ran good at the time for vid out, just use it record now |
| [22:18:47] | HeatHawk[LI]: | xris, yup, wireless, but i tried a wired mouse, no difference |
| [22:19:00] | xris: | HeatHawk[LI]: sounds like interference in the usb bus, and/or bad drivers. |
| [22:19:28] | RaZer0r: | http://info.razer0r.be |
| [22:19:30] | ol_schoola: | xris: thx for the heads up. i think i'm convimnced to just run the old +2500 barton as a dedicated winblose box |
| [22:19:36] | RaZer0r: | darn wrong box |
| [22:20:07] | RaZer0r: | sorry guy's |
| [22:20:35] | HeatHawk[LI]: | xris, bad drivers dosn't make sense, but maybe too much load on the bus might be right |
| [22:21:06] | xris: | HeatHawk[LI]: huh? you're talking about ivtv... they're quite often buggy |
| [22:21:40] | BULLE: | ivtv si the best! |
| [22:21:45] | RaZer0r: | lol |
| [22:21:54] | RaZer0r: | ivtv are buggy |
| [22:22:04] | RaZer0r: | that's for sure |
| [22:22:26] | RaZer0r: | glad i got a mpeg2 hardware decoder which is supported now ;) |
| [22:22:50] | HeatHawk[LI]: | ivtv? im not using that driver |
| [22:23:12] | RaZer0r: | i am |
| [22:23:54] | RaZer0r: | anyhow |
| [22:24:03] | RaZer0r: | lets try the knoppmyth |
| [22:24:10] | iamben: | xris: does this output look normal? the part about dd_state worries me http://rafb.net/p/174zbk30.html |
| [22:24:27] | xris: | HeatHawk[LI]: what driver do you use for the usb recorder, then? I thought ivtv did all of tha hauppauge stuff |
| [22:24:56] | HeatHawk[LI]: | im using the v4l dvb drivers, em28xx driver |
| [22:26:00] | iamben: | ivtv only does the pvr-x50's, none of the usb ones |
| [22:26:01] | xris: | iamben: does look a bit odd. I don't know enough about the DD format to know the answer, though. I passed it on to someone who does, though |
| [22:26:32] | RaZer0r: | buh, i hope i get my tv_grab_be working properly |
| [22:26:43] | iamben: | thanks |
| [22:26:44] | HeatHawk[LI]: | http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_usb2.html |
| [22:26:58] | HeatHawk[LI]: | might be it dosn't have an mpeg encoder in it? |
| [22:27:12] | RaZer0r: | yea |
| [22:27:39] | iamben: | i thought the problem was due to my 7 day trial running out, but i reactivated and its still not working. i also tried starting on a fresh mythtv machine with a clean setup, same issue there |
| [22:29:30] | HeatHawk[LI]: | xris, think its because it dosn't have an mpeg encoder in it? think if i put a faster cpu in it, (1.6 gig 128 cache to 2.0 512 cache) that it might process faster and not screw up my inputs? |
| [22:29:48] | xris: | HeatHawk[LI]: hard to say.. but it might help |
| [22:30:04] | RaZer0r: | so it would be proc based |
| [22:30:05] | MrJackson: | cache wont help much |
| [22:30:25] | MrJackson: | you need raw cpu speed |
| [22:30:27] | HeatHawk[LI]: | i didnt want to use that cpu because its a hotter chip (64 watts versus 89) |
| [22:30:28] | RaZer0r: | didn't know the clokcycles could actual mess up keyboard inputs? |
| [22:31:20] | HeatHawk[LI]: | MrJackson, its a sempron 2800 64 bit versus an a64 3000+, the idea is that it cant process the encoding fast enough and the bus is too loaded causing problems |
| [22:31:51] | RaZer0r: | :) |
| [22:32:21] | RaZer0r: | or the usb bus is just having a hard time giving the right throughput |
| [22:32:37] | HeatHawk[LI]: | ok |
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| [22:32:40] | HeatHawk[LI]: | i gtg |
| [22:32:44] | HeatHawk[LI]: | might be back later |
| [22:32:51] | HeatHawk[LI]: | hey riddlebox, long time no see! :D |
| [22:32:59] | HeatHawk[LI]: | too bad im leavin for now, lol, later |
| [22:34:20] | riddlebox: | ahh see ya |
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| [22:43:12] | Aval0n: | guys, my recordings are looking kind of grainy. LiveTV looks much better. I have it set on high quality, 720x480 mpeg2 PS, 16x9, lossless transcoding, 6000–8500 bitrate. Anyone know what else I can try? |
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| [22:43:46] | directhex: | why are you transcoding to such high bitrates? regardless of the bitrate, transcoding kills quality |
| [22:44:23] | Aval0n: | I was just trying to match the bitrate I had for LiveTV |
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| [22:44:55] | Aval0n: | what is "lossless transcoding" |
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| [22:45:31] | xris: | Aval0n: exactly what it says. |
| [22:45:46] | Aval0n: | so that wouldn't kill quality? |
| [22:45:55] | Aval0n: | just going off what directhex was talking about. |
| [22:45:59] | xris: | normally when you transcode something it has to get uncompressed and then recompressed (even when going between the same format). lossless means that it doesn't. |
| [22:46:08] | xris: | in the case of mythtv, it means removing commercials without reencoding |
| [22:46:23] | directhex: | if you're not changing the format, then surely it's not transcoding? |
| [22:46:41] | Aval0n: | I left it at the default of mpeg2 PS |
| [22:46:47] | Aval0n: | what is the difference between PS and TS? |
| [22:46:53] | directhex: | some mpeg headers |
| [22:47:20] | Aval0n: | I'm just trying to figure out how to maintain the same qual on my recordings that I see on LiveTV |
| [22:47:57] | xris: | directhex: it's transcoding if you take a dvd mpeg2 and convert it to mpeg2 at a different bitrate, etc. |
| [22:48:16] | xris: | Aval0n: PS and TS are container formats. |
| [22:48:23] | directhex: | xris, yeah, but if you change the bitrate, that's not lossless. surely "lossless transcoding" is an oxymoron |
| [22:48:38] | xris: | mpeg is confusing because the container format, video coded and audio codec are all referred to by the same name. |
| [22:49:00] | xris: | directhex: it's a misnomer, yes... but gets the idea across. |
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| [22:50:09] | floppyears: | hi guys I want to get a dvd burner for my mythtv box. which one of the following would you guys recommend: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp . . . e=DVD+Burner |
| [22:50:37] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [22:50:51] | Aval0n: | what is the LiveTV option |
| [22:50:55] | Aval0n: | low medium and high |
| [22:50:58] | Aval0n: | then livetv |
| [22:51:10] | Aval0n: | does that just match everything to what you have set for live TV? |
| [22:51:15] | Aval0n: | I'm talking about in recording profiles |
| [22:51:21] | directhex: | floppyears, the prettiest |
| [22:51:32] | floppyears: | directhex: which one would suggest ? |
| [22:51:42] | directhex: | floppyears, at a guess, i'd say the lite-on |
| [22:52:00] | Aval0n: | I only buy pioneers |
| [22:52:04] | Aval0n: | but that's just me |
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| [22:52:23] | directhex: | pioneer stopped being the only manufacturer to buy after their slot-loading reader become obsolete |
| [22:53:14] | floppyears: | Aval0n: why ? |
| [22:54:05] | Aval0n: | burn quality |
| [22:54:25] | Aval0n: | and other reason I probably shouldn't mention here :) |
| [22:54:56] | directhex: | which also aren't relevant anymore |
| [22:55:32] | Aval0n: | erm |
| [22:55:40] | Aval0n: | it's still very relevant |
| [22:55:41] | Aval0n: | but anyway |
| [22:55:45] | Aval0n: | that's just what I buy |
| [22:55:51] | Aval0n: | <shrug> |
| [22:55:58] | directhex: | i remember when pioneer drives were objects of desire. i remember when it was neccessary to pick & choose particular drives if you planned on copying safedisc or other copy-protected discs. i remember when people didn't just use VLC for their who-gives-a-fuck-about-region-protection discs |
| [22:56:04] | Aval0n: | loyalty to the brand, until I get let down I'm stickin with em :) |
| [22:56:17] | directhex: | these days, anything goes. JVC are fine, as listed. NEC/Sony are also fine. samsung at a pinch |
| [22:56:22] | clever: | got 70gig free on my mythtv drive |
| [22:56:23] | clever: | yay |
| [22:56:32] | directhex: | don't buy acer-benq and you'll be fine |
| [22:57:22] | Aval0n: | lol\ |
| [22:58:19] | directhex: | or asus, obviously |
| [22:58:26] | directhex: | that doesn't need spelling out |
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| [23:02:16] | tomb0y: | simple question, but does myth-tv upscale dvd playback? and how high can it upscale to ? |
| [23:02:43] | directhex: | yes, and how high does your graphics card go? |
| [23:05:11] | directhex: | play a DVD at anything other than 720x568. whoop, congrats, it's being upscaled. stick a scaling filter on the end. even better. in the end, it won't magically turn dvds into something better |
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| [23:06:00] | CaptObviousman: | greetings, earthlings |
| [23:07:04] | MrJackson: | is anyone using a HDHomeRun w/ myth 20.2 (or the latest svn) and schedules direct? |
| [23:07:13] | zo0m: | successfully? no |
| [23:07:16] | zo0m: | heh |
| [23:07:27] | MrJackson: | well atleast i'm not alone lol |
| [23:07:40] | zo0m: | though my hdhomerun didnt work with 0.20-fixes before 0.20.2 came out.. so cant blame it on the changeover :) |
| [23:08:04] | zo0m: | cant scan crap in myth, which everything says was fixed |
| [23:08:08] | zo0m: | so dunno wtf is up |
| [23:08:24] | MrJackson: | ya, i saw that that was suposta be fixed too but it doesnt work for me either |
| [23:08:55] | zo0m: | yeah, read the same thing |
| [23:09:00] | zo0m: | was supposed to be fixed in -fixes too heh |
| [23:09:08] | MrJackson: | i've been googling for like 18 hours |
| [23:09:38] | zo0m: | friend of mine has a homerun, he had to do some crazy voodoo to get it to see any channels in myth.. specifying freq manually and doing 1 channel at a time |
| [23:09:45] | zo0m: | he said it was a complete and total bitch heh |
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| [23:10:50] | MrJackson: | i might be doing that too unfortunatly |
| [23:11:50] | MrJackson: | it's working great in the latest knoppmyth release, was super simple to setup, waiting for the sd supported version that should be out any day but while i'm waiting i've been toying with building my own from scratch |
| [23:11:59] | MrJackson: | kinda reconcidering that now lol |
| [23:12:14] | zo0m: | i regret even buying it |
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| [23:12:25] | zo0m: | i bought the homerun because of all the terrific "works right out of the box with myth!" reviews |
| [23:12:32] | tomb0y: | directhex: well just bought a new sony lcd, and my normal dvd player is only outputting at 480i, which is quite disappointing on a 1080p tv hah |
| [23:12:33] | zo0m: | of course, emailing the list with my problems generates no responses heh |
| [23:13:01] | zo0m: | i just get "timeout" on every channel it scans. annoying as crap. windows client works fine, i can watch tv. perl script scanner sees all the channels from the masterbackend itself |
| [23:13:07] | zo0m: | yet when myth tries to scan, nothing |
| [23:13:18] | directhex: | tomb0y, right. but the video data is only 480i. whatever you do, you can't add detail |
| [23:13:42] | MrJackson: | zo0m, yup, same problem |
| [23:13:52] | zo0m: | who's your provider? |
| [23:13:56] | MrJackson: | OTA |
| [23:13:59] | zo0m: | ah |
| [23:14:00] | zo0m: | hehe |
| [23:14:09] | zo0m: | cool, at least thats not the problem then |
| [23:14:23] | tomb0y: | directhex: arent the standard dvd encoded at 540p / 480i ? |
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| [23:15:00] | BULLE: | tomb0y: more like 576i or 480i |
| [23:15:04] | MrJackson: | i also get segmentation faults sometimes when scanning, when it hits a chan that is there |
| [23:15:12] | BULLE: | tomb0y: depending on what tv standard you are using |
| [23:15:30] | directhex: | tomb0y, 720x480 for NTSC, 720x576 for PAL. whether it's interlaced or progressive depends on the content (typically progressive on movies, interlaced on tv shows) |
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| [23:23:43] | jerickso: | is anyone else seeing issues with mythfilldatabase when run against a schedulesdirect source? Right now I'm getting Error: UpdateProgramViewTable no dd_state errors |
| [23:24:28] | jerickso: | i know that iamdan has similar issues, just curious if others were seeing it to |
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| [23:27:24] | Anduin: | jerickso: If you have no dd_state table then the temp table creation failed |
| [23:27:32] | jerickso: | I've been looking at it for a bit now. I haven't seen anything wrong on my side |
| [23:27:45] | jerickso: | understood, all of the other temp tables are being created properly |
| [23:27:53] | jerickso: | it just isn't inserting any data into that table |
| [23:27:59] | jerickso: | it errors out on the select from it |
| [23:28:23] | jerickso: | I haven't read through the code enough to see if that is a computed table or if the data is coming directly from the DD stream |
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| [23:30:41] | mistone: | I can't seem to get describitions and shows with schedules direct |
| [23:30:57] | mistone: | it says authorization denied alot of times when I do mythfilldatabase |
| [23:31:07] | jerickso: | in other words, I haven't seen anything that suggests the temp table itself is broken |
| [23:31:09] | mistone: | do I need to pay to get this info ? ( I am still withen the trial ) |
| [23:31:22] | kdubya: | no |
| [23:31:23] | kdubya: | you dont |
| [23:31:27] | Anduin: | jerickso: Yeah, it looks like it writes a row there on endDocument |
| [23:31:36] | mistone: | so then why it it saying authorization denied? |
| [23:31:47] | jerickso: | mistone: you'll get 401s (Unauthorized) on the fill database run |
| [23:31:54] | mistone: | oh |
| [23:32:04] | mistone: | its still not working though |
| [23:32:05] | jerickso: | the web request runs once w/o your username, and then again with |
| [23:32:09] | mistone: | it still says unkown |
| [23:32:20] | mistone: | so maybe thats not the issue |
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| [23:32:56] | jerickso: | Anduin: k, I'll just dump the doc its pulling and take a look. I'm guessing that I'm running into an issue on their end, not mine right now |
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| [23:35:57] | mistone: | :? |
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| [23:37:04] | Anduin: | mistone: You can log in to the SD site? Setup a lineup? |
| [23:37:18] | mistone: | I did all taht |
| [23:37:26] | mistone: | the channels work |
| [23:37:41] | mistone: | I just don't see shows and describtions |
| [23:38:31] | Anduin: | mistone: Can you pastebin a mythfilldatabase --refresh-today? |
| [23:39:49] | mistone: | its taking a while |
| [23:40:21] | CaptObviousman: | is there a way to add drives to a raid5 setup after it's been established? |
| [23:40:23] | mistone: | 2007-09–08 16:40:05.452 DataDirect, Error: UpdateProgramViewTable no dd_state! |
| [23:40:24] | mistone: | 2007-09–08 16:40:05.453 Did not find any new program data. |
| [23:40:24] | mistone: | 2007-09–08 16:40:05.454 |
| [23:40:45] | CaptObviousman: | or do I have to rehost the data, then start from scratch? |
| [23:40:55] | jerickso: | mistone: you have the same issue I do right now |
| [23:41:08] | mistone: | no solution ? :O |
| [23:41:12] | mistone: | it worked with zap2it |
| [23:41:45] | jerickso: | CaptObviousman: depends on your raid solution, some hardware raid5 controllers will let you do it. I've been told that Linux software raid will do it, but I haven't tried (yet) |
| [23:42:50] | CaptObviousman: | jerickso: reeeeally, that would make me quite happy |
| [23:43:06] | jerickso: | mistone: I don't have a solution for you, obviously there are people who have it working properly |
| [23:43:17] | mistone: | or not? |
| [23:43:27] | jerickso: | CaptObviousman: Do you have a raid5 setup now or are you asking for future reference? |
| [23:43:52] | CaptObviousman: | jerickso: for future reference. I'm trying to build my NAS on the cheap |
| [23:44:00] | CaptObviousman: | any money spent on that comes out of my MythTV box budget |
| [23:44:22] | mistone: | if you don't use HD you could totally build a myth box with like 200 |
| [23:44:35] | jerickso: | CaptObviousman: k, take a look at the raid admin tools for linux software raid. I'd stay away from hardware controllers that do raid for you (imo) |
| [23:44:57] | CaptObviousman: | mistone: sadly, not an option for me. I've already gone to HDTV, there's no way I could go back now |
| [23:45:02] | mistone: | haha |
| [23:45:16] | mistone: | well then its like 350 |
| [23:45:22] | mistone: | I mean you can make a cheap ass computer |
| [23:45:34] | mistone: | mine is like a 2ghz over clocked to 3 ghz |
| [23:45:43] | mistone: | I don't have any HD content right now tho |
| [23:45:56] | CaptObviousman: | well, I don't want a jet engine sound howling out of my entertainment center |
| [23:45:58] | mistone: | but its worked perfect with a FX 5500 which wasl ike 30 bucks |
| [23:46:01] | mistone: | haha |
| [23:46:04] | mistone: | yea its pretty loud |
| [23:46:16] | CaptObviousman: | I already have a Silverstone box that looks like a receiver |
| [23:46:50] | CaptObviousman: | hmm, this software raid how-to is from 2004. Have there been advances in raid software tools since then? |
| [23:47:09] | mistone: | well poeple atcually use SATA now lol |
| [23:47:15] | ** CaptObviousman doesn't trust howtos based around 2.4 ** | |
| [23:47:29] | jerickso: | CaptObviousman: yes.. read the current tools docs, not the Aged howtos |
| [23:47:40] | mistone: | Anduin: http://pastebin.com/m755b8d61 |
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| [23:48:50] | jerickso: | mistone: your error is the same thing I'm getting |
| [23:48:56] | mistone: | yeaaa |
| [23:48:57] | CaptObviousman: | raidtools, mdadm, and dmraid. Yeesh |
| [23:48:59] | jerickso: | iamben: we aren't alone on the dd_state isues |
| [23:49:10] | jerickso: | CaptObviousman: you found em |
| [23:49:10] | iamben: | hmm if i set my painter to opengl and it didnt work, how can i set it back to qt without getting into the gui? |
| [23:49:18] | CaptObviousman: | dmraid is newest? |
| [23:49:23] | mistone: | :? |
| [23:49:39] | iamben: | jerickso: i was beginning to think it wasnt just a config problem |
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| [23:49:44] | mistone: | jerickso: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/288004 |
| [23:50:12] | jerickso: | mistone: I've seen that already, wasn't my issue |
| [23:50:18] | mistone: | same here |
| [23:50:32] | iamben: | jerickso, mistone: me too =( |
| [23:50:57] | iamben: | i wish i had a working setup to compare mythfilldatabase's output to |
| [23:51:07] | mistone: | I wonder if its a mysql thing |
| [23:51:11] | jerickso: | CaptObviousman: I'm running mdadm |
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| [23:51:43] | iamben: | CaptObviousman: dmraid is for using your controllers pseudo-hw raid, like many mobos have onboard |
| [23:51:45] | jerickso: | mistone: no, I'm getting the tables created properly, I just don't get any data inserted into that one. if you run mythfilldatabase with -h database it'll dump sql |
| [23:51:52] | iamben: | raidtools is the old set of tools, no one uses it anymore |
| [23:52:00] | iamben: | for run of the mill linux software raid, use mdadm |
| [23:52:04] | mistone: | no I mean teh issue has to do with mysql |
| [23:52:05] | CaptObviousman: | now I just have to wait for Fry's to put a really cheap mobo+chip on sale |
| [23:52:16] | jerickso: | mistone: I don't think so |
| [23:52:28] | iamben: | mistone: in what way? i havent upgraded or changed my mysql setup lately, and its on a fresh db now |
| [23:52:36] | mistone: | oh ok |
| [23:52:45] | mistone: | I updated mysql before I checked |
| [23:53:10] | jerickso: | mistone: I think its the data coming from them. I haven't had a chance to dump the data stream yet |
| [23:53:21] | mistone: | yea I was trying to find a way to do that |
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| [23:55:48] | Plantain: | Hey, mythtv seems to have gone crazy on me, I've just installed it, and apart from the 'fullscreen' going well over the edges of the screen, I can't read any of the setup text because it's the same colour as the background (white on greyish white :S ) |
| [23:56:13] | Plantain: | I've managed to get it into a little window from MythTVFrontend, but I still can't read the text |
| [23:58:01] | xris: | Plantain: the "over the edges" is overscan, and is normal for TV... try purging ~/.mythtv/themecache/ |
| [23:58:09] | xris: | for the other issues |
| [23:58:11] | Anduin: | mistone: tv_grab_na (the new one) should be able to save the file |
| [23:59:31] | Plantain: | xris: Okay, trying that now |
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