| Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 00:00 UTC |
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H00chster: |
correct GreyFoxx but do you have the matching MCE Keyboard as well? |
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GreyFoxx: |
At least not for my version of it |
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GreyFoxx: |
H00chster: Nope, just the remote/receiver |
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H00chster: |
the remote works out of the box no prob very nice |
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Yahooadam: |
i think my problem may have been partly a bad guide, and partly cos i didnt restart between switiching from serial to mceusb2 |
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H00chster: |
but the patched driver kormoc made and got the mce-mod developer to include makes the keyboard and blaster work. |
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H00chster: |
but lirc cvs hasn't included that yet |
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GreyFoxx: |
Man that was so easy I'll definately be recommending that remote + cvs lirc when users ask |
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H00chster: |
ya I can't stand mickeysoft heh but the remote is quite nice and VERY easy to get going in myth heh so I often recommend it lol |
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GreyFoxx: |
yeah |
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H00chster: |
can't beat it that everything you need is included heh |
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H00chster: |
don't even have to go through the pain of learning keys heh |
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GreyFoxx: |
now to map a few custom buttons :) |
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GreyFoxx: |
xris's example config in contrib certainly helped :) |
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H00chster: |
indeed |
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H00chster: |
only thing I changed was the jump buttons and the channel up/down stuff in myth's edit keys |
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H00chster: |
if only I could keep it from turning my xbox on when the media button is pressed ROFLMAO |
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H00chster: |
but I ended up just programming the harmony to that remote heh that fixed that lol |
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GreyFoxx: |
Once I setup Recorded TV as a Jumppoint to watch recordings and DVD Menu to launch mythvideo I'll be pretty happy :) |
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H00chster: |
exactly what I set my dvd menu too heh |
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H00chster: |
and livetv of course to livetv and set guide to the TV Playback guide |
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GreyFoxx: |
I'm n ot sure what yet but I'm gonna use those 2 for something else since I don't really use either of those functions :) |
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H00chster: |
heh |
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Yahooadam: |
bah |
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Yahooadam: |
u dont use the guide button ? >_< |
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Yahooadam: |
thats like the best button ever :p |
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GreyFoxx: |
Yahooadam: Extremely rarely, not enough to dedicate a button to it :) |
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xris: |
GreyFoxx: yeah. too bad I don't actually use my own remote.... though j-rod is getting the lirc kernel modules into the official fedora kernel, so it'll be a lot easier for me to keep the drivers up to date with my kernel soon. |
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GreyFoxx: |
xris: hehe |
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Yahooadam: |
i wish they would update packages faster on ubuntu |
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Yahooadam: |
oh |
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Yahooadam: |
mythtv is 0.20.2 |
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Yahooadam: |
lol |
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Yahooadam: |
meh ok so maybe they do update well :p |
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Yahooadam: |
*shuts up* |
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GreyFoxx: |
Hmmmm IS there a WAtch Recordings jumppoint ? |
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GreyFoxx: |
Admittedly I'm only looking in mythweb for it |
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H00chster: |
greyfoxx |
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H00chster: |
it is called TV Playback Recordings |
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H00chster: |
or TV Playback Recorded Shows or something like that but starts with TV Playback |
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GreyFoxx: |
Ahhh ok |
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GreyFoxx: |
TV Recording Playback |
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GreyFoxx: |
duh, I shoulda tried that. Thanks! |
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H00chster: |
np |
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juski: |
Yahooadam: really getting somewhere with my scripts now :) |
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juski: |
got the postcode lookup stuff done & working |
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juski: |
got most of the provider & package data done & parsable |
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** juski goes to bed. g'night all ** |
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H00chster: |
night juski |
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Yahooadam: |
nice one juski :D |
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Yahooadam: |
just finishing this game ;) |
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John: |
Can anyone help me? |
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Yahooadam: |
dont ask to ask, just ask |
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John: |
How would I use two different machines to be a backend and a frontend? |
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Yahooadam: |
setup the backend |
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Yahooadam: |
like normal |
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Yahooadam: |
on the frontend, enter the ip of the backend |
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Yahooadam: |
done |
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John: |
I thought it was harder |
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Yahooadam: |
have you used mythtv b4 ? |
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fryfrog: |
thats what she said |
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fryfrog: |
you'll also need to make sure your mysql server accept connections on your network (not just localhost) |
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John: |
Yes but it was many years ago |
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Yahooadam: |
from my experience, connecting a frontend to a remote backend is the easy bit |
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techjimbo: |
hey guys, I've roamed the FAQ. who does the listings now? I heard about zap2it |
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Yahooadam: |
Schedules Direct |
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techjimbo: |
how's the support? flawless? |
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John: |
Is there rpm's for el5? |
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Yahooadam: |
el5 = ? |
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Yahooadam: |
as for SD support, asking in here is usually a good bet |
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Yahooadam: |
but its atleast as good as Z2I if not better |
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John: |
Red Hat Linux Enterprise Linux 5 same as CentOS |
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John: |
I use CentOS for my servers |
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techjimbo: |
SMEserver looks quick and easy. |
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Yahooadam: |
john, it doesnt especially look like it at a quick glance |
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Yahooadam: |
i know there is for FC5 |
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John: |
CentOS is a distro based on el5 |
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Yahooadam: |
it seems you can use apt-get on red hat though ... |
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John: |
CentOS uses yum repos |
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Yahooadam: |
most people seem to reccomend compiling it ... so ... |
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Yahooadam: |
i cant see any RPM's |
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Yahooadam: |
mythtv is only officially distributed in source format |
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John: |
I have a feeling that it might be in the rpmforge repo |
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Yahooadam: |
http://atrpms.net/topic/multimedia/ – this apparently has it |
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Yahooadam: |
"Red Hat Linux and Fedora Core packages for MythTV and all of its add-on modules" |
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John: |
I use these repos along woth the Core repos: drbl, epel, atrpms, rpmforge |
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John: |
atrpms has them |
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Yahooadam: |
so it would seem a yum install mythtv will work .. ? |
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John: |
with the atrpm repo list installed |
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John: |
then yes you can installing |
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John: |
Compiling |
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fundies: |
cancan i install mythtv to my tivo? |
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fryfrog: |
no, thanks come again! |
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Yahooadam: |
"The TiVo is running fairly specialized hardware, so it'd be a real pain to have to tailor MythTV to that. I bet it'd just be easier and way less time consuming to buy a mini-itx fanless PC, and run MythTV on that." |
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Yahooadam: |
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mythtv+on+ti . . . enGB225GB225 |
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Yahooadam: |
http://ask.pvrblog.com/2004/10/tivo_to_mythtv.html |
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Yahooadam: |
bam bam bam |
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Yahooadam: |
pretty easy ... |
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iamben: |
"it'd actually take some effort to do that..." |
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Yahooadam: |
if i select "Find and record one showing of this title." |
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Yahooadam: |
in mythtv |
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fundies: |
ok well i got a directtv tivo |
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fundies: |
and i want to use it with cable |
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Yahooadam: |
will that record every episode, once ? |
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fundies: |
do i hae any options? |
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fryfrog: |
thats uh, not likely to ever happen |
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fryfrog: |
yeah, sure |
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fryfrog: |
sell it on ebay/craigslist |
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fryfrog: |
buy a cable tivo |
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fundies: |
no i want to image the hardriive or something of that nature |
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fryfrog: |
i think you are having a fundamental issue of not comprehending the differences between satalite and cable |
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fryfrog: |
it is easy to summarize with the phrase "they are very different" perhaps |
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Ryushin: |
Is there something like this http://www.woot.com/ that can be used for a mini frontend for myth. Does Myth support IPTV? |
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fundies: |
fryfrog but theres a cable port on the tivo |
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fryfrog: |
is that to let it record ota locals? |
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BHSPitMonkey: |
Hiya. |
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fundies: |
fryfrog theres a cable in and 2 satilite ins and 1 cable out |
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Yahooadam: |
"Dont ask to Ask Just Ask" |
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Yahooadam: |
im so gonna have to make a macro for that |
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sphery: |
Yahooadam: Find and record one showing of this title is appropriate for movies. Record at any time on any channel is good for all episodes of a series. |
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fryfrog: |
fundies: so... then just use it? |
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Yahooadam: |
sphery – "Record at any time on any channel." wont re-record episodes ? |
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Ryushin: |
Yahooadam: Well, their are trying to be polite. They've probably been beaten up by going to the FreeBSD/Solaris/other elitist channel. |
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sphery: |
Yahooadam: Nope. Not if you enable duplicate detection. |
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fundies: |
fryfrog cant the ghey directv software only checks satilite |
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Yahooadam: |
ok ty sphery :) |
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Yahooadam: |
hmm mythtv could actually be quite good |
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Yahooadam: |
well when juski gets his setup thing done i might tie in my sky connection and start using it :) |
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sphery: |
mine is quite good (not to say it couldn't be improved) |
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Yahooadam: |
Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 512 bytes) in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/programs.php on line 420 |
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Yahooadam: |
bah ! |
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sphery: |
Yahooadam: You need to increase the PHP memory size. |
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Yahooadam: |
its ok now |
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sphery: |
cool |
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Yahooadam: |
i realised, i was trying to search all films, and all series |
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Yahooadam: |
(with no criteria as i was trying to find 4* films) |
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Yahooadam: |
= alot of results |
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sphery: |
Yeah. A search for nothing is similarly interesting. |
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sphery: |
nothing finds everything |
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Yahooadam: |
:) |
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Yahooadam: |
search with no critera = no filter ;) |
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sphery: |
right |
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Yahooadam: |
can you watch stuff off mythweb ? |
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sphery: |
yes/no |
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Yahooadam: |
ah |
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Yahooadam: |
it opens it with mythtv |
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sphery: |
You can do direct download, ASX streaming, and Flash video (Flash and maybe ASX only in SVN trunk), but they all have limitations |
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Yahooadam: |
hmm :( |
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sphery: |
Flash is a proof-of-concept implementation that needs a /lot/ of supporting backend code that's not there, yet, to be done correctly.. |
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clever: |
the mythtv protocol is simple |
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clever: |
to me |
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clever: |
if i knew the interface for vlc/mplayer i could probly add mythtv support to them |
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sphery: |
My backends are unable to even play back my recordings (HDTV) in real time, but the Flash approach requires transcoding in real time. |
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sphery: |
clever: Yeah. It was designed to be simple. |
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clever: |
sphery: the new method is to have mythbackend transcode on its own in realtime |
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sphery: |
Though if you can run vlc/mplayer, why not just run mythfrontend. |
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clever: |
which wont help for you:P |
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clever: |
mplayer and vlc also work on winblows |
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clever: |
if i code the addon right it should build for both os's |
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Yahooadam: |
which would be freaking awesome :p |
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p3bkac: |
I have mythtv installed and setup to use my hauppauge pvr-350 but times out when I try to record video or watch live tv...I have done a dd if=/dev/video0 of=capture.mpg and am able to capture video |
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clever: |
ive asked the mplayer channel before but they led me to the wrong part of the help file |
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sphery: |
clever: right. there's also going to be support for multiple-recording-files per show, so if I wanted, I could do a < realtime transcode and watch later through MythWeb (but I won't ever do that--it's easier to carry my recordings with me than to try to watch through my 768kbps upstream link to the 'net) |
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clever: |
what i did before |
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clever: |
i copyed the nuv's over the internet |
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clever: |
50kb/sec |
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clever: |
halfway arross the country |
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Yahooadam: |
i want to watch my recordings on windows |
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clever: |
then put them in a local folder |
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Yahooadam: |
atm :p |
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clever: |
making it think i nfs mounted the backend |
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clever: |
then mythfrontend played them just fine |
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clever: |
except for the lag to the mysql and master backend:( |
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clever: |
and it took ages to transfer a show |
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sphery: |
I guess for a slim windows client, vlc/mplayer wouldn't be bad. I find, though, that if I'm not using mythfrontend, it's just as easy to play the file directly. |
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sphery: |
I copy my recordings to my laptop when I go on trips and play them as any other video file. |
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clever: |
the direct download of mythweb can be streamed thru vlc/mplayer/other |
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clever: |
but lacks seek support |
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clever: |
asx might fix that i dont remember using it |
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sphery: |
(and I have keys set up to allow skipping commercials in about 3 keypresses) |
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p3bkac: |
any takers on what i might be doing wrong? |
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clever: |
how far is mythtv from a working frontend build on winblows? |
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sphery: |
Yahooadam: With Samba, mythrename.pl (highly recommend using it's --link option, not actually renaming), you can play them on Windows (and it's easy to find the right one). |
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clever: |
sphery: i only use samba for the other direction(mounting xp shares on linux) |
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Yahooadam: |
bah another network drive :p |
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sphery: |
p3bkac: You've selected PVR-x50, PVR-500 for the card type? |
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Yahooadam: |
i already have 5 :p |
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sphery: |
:) |
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clever: |
most of my net drives are nfs mounts |
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p3bkac: |
It actually shows PVR-350 identified |
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p3bkac: |
and /dev/video0 |
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sphery: |
I found that not using Windows makes it easy to access my Myth stuff on any of my machines... :) |
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clever: |
bbl |
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sphery: |
p3bkac: but what about what you selected in mythtv-setup? |
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Yahooadam: |
how would i use mythrename.pl ? |
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Yahooadam: |
is there a good faq somewhere :) |
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sphery: |
not really. |
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p3bkac: |
sphery: I thought that was what you were talking about...I selected the V4L PVR350 in mythtv-setup |
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p3bkac: |
is there a place where myth keeps it's logs for me to parse through? |
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p3bkac: |
nm...found it in /var/log |
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Yahooadam: |
p3bkac – usually a good place to start looking ;) |
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sphery: |
Yahooadam: I use: mythrename.pl --link /path/to/dir --format '%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%T-%S' --underscores --separator '-' --replacement '_' |
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Chutt_: |
v4l / pvr-350 are two separate things |
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sphery: |
Yahooadam: But I run it for 5 directories and use these other four formats, too: '%T/%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%S' , '%U-%T-%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%S' , '%C-%T-%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%S' , '%T-%oY%om%od-%S' |
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Yahooadam: |
do you have to run that manually, or can mythtv do it automatically ? |
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sphery: |
To get dirs sorted by start time, title, recording group, category, original airdate |
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sphery: |
I have a cron job run it. |
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p3bkac: |
I think it says V4L in the menu (2nd Option Capture Cards) and then identifies PVR350 when I go in to it |
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sphery: |
Myth doesn't have it built in. |
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p3bkac: |
I have the logfile but it's not giving me any details...2007-09–05 21:59:42.578 TV Error: StartRecorder() — timed out waiting for recorder to start |
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sphery: |
p3bkac: It should be something like: "MPEG-2 encoder card (PVR-x50, PVR-500)" (though that version--from trunk--is new and the old said something about PVR-250, PVR-350, the MPEG-2 encoder part should be recognizable). |
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p3bkac: |
I think I just found it in the backend logs...says I have to setup the profile (which I thought I already did)....2007-09–05 21:59:02.532 Unknown video codec...2007-09–05 21:59:02.540 Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and. |
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