Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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Zombie:

What do you mean? I'm only talking about Live TV/

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janneg:

Zombie: LiveTV creates recordings to

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janneg:

o

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Zombie:

I semi-realize this.

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xris:

Zombie: need to figure out if it's an issue with MythTV not knowing the correct output device, vs not recording sound at all.

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janneg:

look in your recording directory. you'll find there either .nuv or .mpeg files

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xris:

however, if you're using tvtime, I suspect you're using software encoding, which means that you probably didn't set the input to "record" mode

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janneg:

try to play those with mplayer

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my2keh:

ahh xris!

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my2keh:

you wrote most of mythweb eh?

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xris:

yup

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my2keh:

including the manual recording screen I'm assuming

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my2keh:

ok, I'm sure it's correct, but I have duplicates of many channels

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my2keh:

two different sources

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my2keh:

so I have a 507 PPV and a 507 FOX

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my2keh:

in the manual recording screen

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xris:

ok...

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my2keh:

it only shows 507 FOX because it's grouping them together

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my2keh:

for whatever reason

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xris:

oh, odd

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xris:

submit a bug report.

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xris:

I like to have a record of such things...

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my2keh:

I did

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my2keh:

3868

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xris:

ok.

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my2keh:

I even think I provided a fix

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my2keh:

heh

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Zombie:

The Card is a

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my2keh:

but probably not

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xris:

it'll probably be awhile before I have time to go in and fix things... schedules direct stuff has taken up most of my spare dev time lately

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Zombie:

fryfrog: Its an MSI TV Anywhere Plus

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Zombie:

Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)

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my2keh:

xris>> of course, SD is more important for sure

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my2keh:

it's logged

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my2keh:

brb!

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** xris goes back to watching the SD user count grow.. **

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GreyFoxx:

heh

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kristok:

when i restart my myth box, the capture card audio inputs dont get set properly

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kristok:

I have 2 avermedia M179 cards (uses ivtv driver)

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my2keh:

xris>> what's it at now?

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my2keh:

or can you not say

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Raspberry:

I have one of the new hauppauge branded SMK receivers

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Raspberry:

and I'm having trouble getting it to work...

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Raspberry:

irw doesn't return anything

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my2keh:

Raspberry>> fear not

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my2keh:

it will work

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Raspberry:

oh I know :P

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my2keh:

I have the same thing

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my2keh:

lemme look at my bookmarks

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my2keh:

to see if I have anything that can help

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Raspberry:

I used the CVS lirc_mceusb2.c file and compiled the driver — but that didn't get it going either

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Raspberry:

I'm running Ubuntu Feisty Fawn

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Raspberry:

I bought the hauppauge MC Remote "Accessory" from their website — and it's a black remote ... the box says it's version 1069

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my2keh:

damn it

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my2keh:

i can't find it

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Raspberry:

I saw this... http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.lirc/5524

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Raspberry:

but from what I can tell ... that was added to the "official" lirc_mceusb2 driver on June 29th

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my2keh:

hmm

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my2keh:

it wasn't anything too fancy

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my2keh:

i know that part

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Raspberry:

this new receiver has the USB cable built right in

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Raspberry:

ya know what I mean?

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my2keh:

yup

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Raspberry:

yeah

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Raspberry:

the receiver light flashes when I push keys on the remote

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Raspberry:

so I know it's getting initialized to a degree

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Raspberry:

but I can't get mode2 or irw working

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my2keh:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote

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my2keh:

didja see that?

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Raspberry:

yup

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Raspberry:

my rmote isn't listed there

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my2keh:

i think I followed that

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my2keh:

oh so you just have the SMK receiver

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Raspberry:

my odl remote was the version 2 model Hauppauge PVR-kit

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Raspberry:

no

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Raspberry:

I have the receiver and remote

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Raspberry:

but Hauppauge has changed their remote

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my2keh:

so none of those 4?

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Raspberry:

I don't mind reprogramming my lircd.conf

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Raspberry:

nope

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my2keh:

ahhh

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Raspberry:

Hauppauge has changed to a black remote

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Raspberry:

I ordered the silver remote

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Raspberry:

and they sent me a black one

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my2keh:

bastards

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Raspberry:

it's a "vista compatible" remote

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my2keh:

blah

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Raspberry:

here's the best way to explain it...

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Raspberry:

they send you this now...

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Raspberry:

http://registration.hauppauge.com/webstore/ac . . . t=mce_remote

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Raspberry:

scroll down to the bottom of this page: http://registration.hauppauge.com/webstore/hardware.asp

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Raspberry:

when I ordered the "Medica Center remote" all the photos were of the silver remote

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Raspberry:

when it showed it up — it was blakc and I went back to the website and the main photo of the remote is black now

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Raspberry:

it seems to be the remote / receiver combo that comes with the HVR-1800

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Raspberry:

although I'm using PCHDTV-5500 cards

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Raspberry:

which have worked fine with the WinTV-PVR-150 remote and receiver

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Raspberry:

my problem might be resolved if I could get a CVS package for lirc and the new stable mythtv .20.2

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marC--:

hey all question, im sory of a noob. I just got a WinTV 1600 and I have no idea how to hook it up to my set top box... do i put the cable in to the setupbox and the cable out to my tv card?

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my2keh:

SORRY BACK

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my2keh:

you can get the CVS of lirc

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my2keh:

i'm running umm

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my2keh:

one sec

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my2keh:

0.8.2

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unkn0wn:

hey all, i'm trying to get mplayer to play audio out my pvr-350, any suggestions? (video is working fine)

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unkn0wn:

i assume that i need to direct the audio output of mplayer with the "-ao" switch, not sure what to pass it to though

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NightMonkey:

Joy – just updated to 0.20.2 and moved to SchedulesDirect. No problems so far.

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NightMonkey:

I just ran "mythfilldatabase" (no options). Should I do anything more to really confirm that the feed is ok?

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NightMonkey:

unkn0wn: Sorry, try #mplayer.

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NightMonkey:

OK, just paid for SD. :)

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unkn0wn:

NightMonkey, do you know what mythtv uses as their "Internal" player because i don't think it's mplayer (don't see it in the process list)

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GreyFoxx:

unkn0wn: It's built in

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NightMonkey:

unkn0wn: I belive it is ffmpeg? Not sure.

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unkn0wn:

how can i set the audio output for the internal player?

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NightMonkey:

unkn0wn: Belive GreyFoxx. ;)

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GreyFoxx:

myth uses the libavcodec libraries, but has it's out code for playback

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GreyFoxx:

unkno: how do you set the device name ?

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unkn0wn:

i want the default player to play out to my ivtv device

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GreyFoxx:

only way I know of is to enable the 350 as the decoder. Can't remember exacrtly where in the frontend that was

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unkn0wn:

i was trying to use mplayers "-ao" switch to select the ivtv device, but i was unsure of the syntax

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GreyFoxx:

most people do not generally use it for playback

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NightMonkey:

unkn0wn: IIRC, sound is muted when using ivtv playback through the PVR-350. Myth can't control the volume when audio is played via the PVR-350.

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GreyFoxx:

NightMonkey: Sure it can

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NightMonkey:

unkn0wn: I've got an audio cable going from the PVR-350 output into the line-in jack, so volume is controlled by ALSA.

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NightMonkey:

GreyFoxx: Oh, I saw the note in the mythfrontend "TV Settings" panel say otherwise – is that wrong, or did I misread that?

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unkn0wn:

okay nightmonkey, i'll try running a cable

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NightMonkey:

unkn0wn: You could use the ivtv-supplied utilities to control the volume first.

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GreyFoxx:

NightMonkey: It's been a long long time since I used a 350 for output bit I know I was able to control volume

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GreyFoxx:

at some point 350 decoding is going to just stop working unless someone takes up the reigns to make sure it keeps working

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CyberKnet:

hardware decode on most systems isn't nearly as useful as hardware encode.

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NightMonkey:

Yeah, I wish I could find a good resource for determining the best quality S-video output. Unfortunately, my box, a Shuttle, only has one PCI slot and a GF2 S-Video output – rather poor quality.

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unkn0wn:

alright guys, thanks for the advice, i'm taking off

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CyberKnet:

NightMonkey: All I have to say is don't get a vga->NTSC scan converter... my AVerMedia one bands like crazy

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kristok:

when i reboot my machine, the audio inputs for my capture cards are not properly set

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NightMonkey:

I just love the low level of off-card resource usage of the 350.

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kristok:

i have to do it by hand

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CyberKnet:

kristok: so put something in your startup scripts to run the commands necessary to set it up?

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kristok:

thats where it gets really weird, i put it in /etc/rc.local, and it still doesn't work

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NightMonkey:

And I don't have a need for HD, so I'm a bit of a video Luddite right now.

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kristok:

but if I log in after its booted and run /etc/rc.local by hand, it works

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CyberKnet:

NightMonkey: Yeah, I have no need for HD either

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CyberKnet:

kristok: hmm... put it in your mythbackend startup script?

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kristok:

CyberKnet: I could try that, but shouldn't myth set the audio inputs properly in the first place?

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CyberKnet:

NightMonkey: I tell you though ... it's easy to be jealous of the hardware the windows guys get to work with ;)

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CyberKnet:

kristok: I've never had trouble with it. What kind of tv tuner card?

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NightMonkey:

CyberKnet: What kind of hardware do you mean?

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kristok:

CyberKnet: two Avermedia M179 (uses ivtv driver)

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CyberKnet:

kristok: Hmm... IIRC, kormoc uses a pair of those that I sold him... I recall having to call the ivtv set ioctl command a few times before backend start up

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CyberKnet:

to set resolution, and such

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CyberKnet:

but it's been a while... I run a PVR-500 after I sold him my M179's

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CyberKnet:

you might ask kormoc about his setup, he's ususally here weekdays until about 4PM CST

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NightMonkey:

kristok: I don't know what your distro is, but does rc.local need to be added to runlevels?

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NightMonkey:

kristok: And is it running before the modules get loaded, for some reason?

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kristok:

Fedora 7, and rc.local gets run automatically. just to check i inserted a "touch /tmp/asdf" and I look at the timestamp

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kristok:

NightMonkey: I guess that's a possibility, that the driver isn't finished loading yet

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Eclipsor:

ahh, for some reason my video is jumpy still

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Eclipsor:

even though I set it downt o only one simultaneous job

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kristok:

CyberKnet: yeah, its v4l2-ctl now that you run to set the audio/video inputs, etc.

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bigdissaved:

I have a question for a mythtv dev. Would it be worth it to seperate the front/back ends from the libs. My thinking is that we install the libs package, then we can install the back and front ends, and there is less problems of residual libs messing up newer build...

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GreyFoxx:

myth/thedevs do not make packages. That's packagers that do that

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GreyFoxx:

And if you are consistant with your packages and or source ocmpiling I don't see how you can have residual libraries

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GreyFoxx:

Ir there are problems then the packagers need their fingers smacked

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Eclipsor:

what are some comon reasons I could have frames jumping?

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bigdissaved:

ok, I was going from 20 to svn, and I had to remove the myth libs, that is why I was thinking have the libs installed first..

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stevenm:

Hello. I just got a Schedules Direct subscription. What is the change needed on the software site to retrieve listings from this source?

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nitronic:

hi there, i have a pchd hd-5500 which is not giving me any signal strength according to dtvsignal, despite being hooked up to a perfectly good cable link. dmesg errors: "[ 4206.344000] cx88[0]/2-mpeg: cx8802_timeout" whenever i try a `dtvsignal -q 4` (or any other channel number)... any ideas?

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psofa:

<psofa> is there any script that would take myseries.S10E07.720p.LeetGroup and fetch from imdb?

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xris:

psofa: asking questions about pirated files here tends to get you kicked.

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psofa:

err?

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xris:

"LeetGroup"?

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psofa:

i didnt ask how to dld them, ffs

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psofa:

it was an example filename!

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xris:

an example filename that suggests piracy.

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xris:

anyway, mythvideo and mythweb (svn trunk) both have imdb search routines.

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psofa:

no it doesnt

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psofa:

i never said myseries was under some copyright

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xris:

psofa: "group" implies more than one person... and anything you'd be recording that's a "series" is going to be under copyright.

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psofa:

its actually a leetgroup production , a "life of a pirate" which leetgroup releases under gpl

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psofa:

a well known series

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xris:

not so well known, apparently. heh.

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xris:

anyway, my apologies.

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psofa:

:)

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xris:

I answered the rest of your question a few lines back

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psofa:

mythvideo wiki pages say the file must be properly named

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psofa:

as in exactly

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psofa:

so the usual naming conventions Name.S##E##.encodinginfo.blah wont do it

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xris:

ah, forgot that mythvideo didn't allow plaintext searching. well, mythweb still does it.

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xris:

and imho works better.

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CCFL_Man2:

anyone here have an old copy of xenix laying around?

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Anduin:

psofa: You can also edit the metadata before searching, there is a patch to allow direct searching, needs some work before it goes in.

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NightMonkey:

<gentoo> FYI: All plugins (and mythweb) packages have just been updated to 0.20.2 in Gentoo's Portage. </gentoo>

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psofa:

uhm strange

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psofa:

direct searching doesnt seem to work

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psofa:

the same string in imdb web search has exactly one match

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psofa:

however imdb number does the job :)

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Anduin:

It only searched movies

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psofa:

??

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drkfce:

Looking through the mythtv wiki, it seems to me that Hauppauge cards tend to be more compatible than others, is this true?

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psofa:

imdb web search has a match in names and titles

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xris:

drkfce: specific cards, yes.

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xris:

other cards, not at all

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Anduin:

psofa: DisneyPedia?

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drkfce:

ah

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psofa:

Anduin, ???

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Anduin:

psofa: imdb, "life of a pirate" right?

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psofa:

uhm no

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psofa:

lol

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psofa:

a yes

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psofa:

of course

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nitronic:

hi there, i have a pchd hd-5500 which is not giving me any signal strength according to dtvsignal, despite being hooked up to a perfectly good cable link. dmesg errors: "[ 4206.344000] cx88[0]/2-mpeg: cx8802_timeout" whenever i try a `dtvsignal -q 4` (or any other channel number)... any ideas?

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Hoochster:

xris and whomever the other people are, GREAT work on SD!

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pretender:

whats the command to run livetv through mplayer to fault find myth issues

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GreyFoxx:

pretender: command to make myth feed livetv through mplayer?

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GreyFoxx:

There is no such thing in myth. Myth doesnt use anything but the internal player for livetv or recordings

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pretender:

in getting sound stutter or choppy through myth am wanting to use somethings else to test

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Toxicity999:

Yay, using Sd myself now too.

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Toxicity999:

GreyFoxx I think he meant accessing the tuner in myth to make sure it was functioning properly.

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Toxicity999:

er

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Toxicity999:

in mplayer

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Hoochster:

it is pretty slick Toxicity999

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Toxicity999:

yes indeed, going to pay when I get some cash.

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Hoochster:

just setup 2 trial accounts but we are sold knew we would be but just wanted to check it out first, and now gonna sub on both. main reason was for my local channels it does great for ota. and if I am gonna do that I am gonna do it for the rest heh

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Toxicity999:

dd was never bad to me really, I had a nice setup, it's really the same so far. Which is a good thing.

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Toxicity999:

I like having it all happening a little more close to home though, lol.

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Toxicity999:

So to speak anyway

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Hoochster:

inded

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Captain_Murdoch:

GreyFoxx: can you give me a copy of your alsa config from one of your RM4100 boxes? I haven't messed with mine recently, but am looking into that muted audio issue again.

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bigdissaved:

would anyone be able to help me with an install error?

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bigdissaved:

( [ -d mythtv ] && cd mythtv ; make -f Makefile install; ) || true

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bigdissaved:

make[2]: Entering directory `/home/bigd/build/mythtv/programs/mythtv'

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bigdissaved:

mkdir: invalid option — u

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bigdissaved:

Try `mkdir --help' for more information.

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bigdissaved:

make[2]: *** [install_target] Error 1

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bigdissaved:

I looked at the Makefiles, and there is nothing about u near any mkdir commands

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bigdissaved:

I reyed putting install -d insted, but it gave the same thing...

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dns_56:

for some reason i cannot record using myth anymore, i can still watch livetv and watch already recorded programs

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tank-man:

if you are watching live tv, it is recording

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dns_56:

i know, do you think it is database related or something?

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dns_56:

do live recordings get stored in the same directory?

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Anduin:

They do, it is likely DB related.

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Anduin:

dns_56: Including the partition with the DB getting full.

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dns_56:

i have 7g on / and 200g on my recordings partition

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Anduin:

dns_56: Now look for crashed tables

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Anduin:

You can also run mythbackend --printsched to see what the scheduler is doing.

[06:29:59]

Hoochster:

Does anyone by chance know if there is a way to turn off the PIP view of what's on the current channel while in the guide?

[06:32:22]

dns_56:

the problem seems to be inserting schedules to the db, what table stores this?

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Tanthrix:

dns_56: Repair your db before wasting your time with anything else. Always a good thing to do.

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dns_56:

how? i only know how to use postgres and oracle

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Anduin:

dns_56: You may want to run optimize_mythdb.pl, record_tmp and recordmatch are the main recording state tables

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dns_56:

that is a myth script or a mysql?

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Anduin:

dns_56: myth, it is in contrib

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dns_56:

done that, i seem to be able to insert data into the record table but it does not seem to do anything with it

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Anduin:

dns_56: It doesn't normally reread the table without need.

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Anduin:

dns_56: It is better to use the frontend/mythweb to schedule things

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dns_56:

i am using the frontend, it does insert data into the record table but it does not record or show up in the frontend of upcoming recordings

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dns_56:

should i just drop the database and start again?

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adante:

should i be trying to build myth against qt3 or 4?

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Anduin:

dns_56: That is drastic, can you put several line of the backend log up on a paste site?

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Anduin:

adante: Qt 3 (4 will not work)

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dns_56:

there does not seem to be much interesting in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log mainly some info about client connect/disconnects

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Anduin:

dns_56: run mythbackend --resched and see if that causes anything to appear

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Anduin:

bigdissaved: So MKDIR in those Makefiles is mkdir -u?

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Anduin:

bigdissaved: It should match the one in your qmake.conf

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dns_56:

that did not give any errors

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astx813:

Is there really any difference between the Play DVD and Play VCD commands if it's configured to use the same optical drive?

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Anduin:

Yes

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Anduin:

dns_56: and --printsched still shows nothing?

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dns_56:

still nothing

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astx813:

Anduin, was that to me?

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adante:

hm

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Anduin:

astx813: It was

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adante:

so myth seems to be trying to build against qt4... how do i tell it to build against 3?

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astx813:

Damn. I wanted to clean up the Optical menu

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astx813:

too many options in there

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Anduin:

If you never play VCDs just delete the menu item

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astx813:

Eh, never know.

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TUplink_:

how can i change the chanel with the command line..... BT driver

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Raspberry:

has anybody got the new SMK receiver and Hauppauge v1069 remote working?

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Raspberry:

I just updated the wiki with the image of the new remote

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jblack:

woot. I'm now a paying member for schedules direct. Now all I need to do is wait until ubuntu upgrades myth

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jblack:

Has anyone moved to schedules direct yet? If so, did it screw with any of your existing programs?

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Raspberry:

I'll find out shortly

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Raspberry:

I'm upgrading my ubuntu install from feisty to gutsy

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jblack:

I'm already on gutsy, but I haven't upgraded in a week.

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Raspberry:

hopefully the new lirc resolves the issues I'm having with the new Hauppauge remote

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Raspberry:

I bought a remote / IR from Hauppauge and they shipped new one of their new Vista MCE Remotes

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Raspberry:

and some new SMK IR Receiver

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Raspberry:

i'm just baffled as to why schedules should cost anything

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jblack:

I don't have any ir remotes. I use 4 laptops as front ends.

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Raspberry:

networks want viewers... so why don't they have an industry standard "free" schedule stream

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jblack:

They do in the US... over radio waves.

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Raspberry:

the FCC monitors all TV stations in the US — so I don't understand why they can't provide that data... since the networks are providing it to them prior to shows being aired

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jblack:

Oh, you mean schedule data...

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Raspberry:

yeah

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GrizzlyAdams:

anyone around with a hdhomerun?

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jblack:

Many TV stations do give the info on their sites.

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Raspberry:

maybe we can get public access to schedules after we get over the net neutality thing

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jblack:

Tribune makes their money by agregating it.

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Raspberry:

I'm guessing Tribune doesn't hand type all of the schedules — so I don't understand why the mythtv community can't get the schedules the same way tribune does... and skip the middle man... </rant> :P

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jblack:

I bet tribune gets every single TV station to hand type it for them. ;D

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GrizzlyAdams:

:P

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GrizzlyAdams:

i need someone with a hdhomerun to run hdhomerun_config get ffffffff /tuner2/target

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Raspberry:

well there has to be money to be made somewhere

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Raspberry:

because otherwise Tribune wouldn't exist

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jblack:

If you don't like that idea, you should look into how much people charge for agregating xml-rpc feeds

[08:31:57]

jblack:

If christianity were started today, Jaysus would kick over (database)tables of the aggregators.

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jblack:

Yeah. Gutsy has the new stuff

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jblack:

Did anyone else notice all the zap2it logos over the sd site?

[08:34:02]

GrizzlyAdams:

:D my hdhomerun simulator seems to work :D

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Raspberry:

see this terms / conditions restriction?

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Raspberry:

Redistribution of the data is prohibited. This

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Raspberry:

includes displaying the data on a publicly

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Raspberry:

accessible web page. A password is acceptable

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Raspberry:

to prevent public access.

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Raspberry:

whoops

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Raspberry:

sorry about that

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Raspberry:

I'm on a different client than normal — should have pasted to a single line

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Raspberry:

-- so everybody has to password protect their MythWeb page?

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GrizzlyAdams:

its a good idea.

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GrizzlyAdams:

if its public.

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Raspberry:

I'll just modify the mythweb html to put a note on top that says "this is not public" "if you do not have permission to be here... leave"

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GrizzlyAdams:

heh

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Raspberry:

I also don't understand the whole... technical limitations = use a email address that won't change thing

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Raspberry:

how is the provider limiting their email addresses

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Raspberry:

I don't like the feeling I get about the Stability of SD

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Raspberry:

like Tribune could yank the rug out at any time

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juski:

hey didn't you already say </rant> ?

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Raspberry:

heh

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Raspberry:

sorry ... <rant>

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Raspberry:

and then "We are still working on the Privacy Policy."

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juski:

i.e. it's in the hands of the lawyers

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jblack:

I'm a little nervous about the whole 'Let the free software community police infringement thing'.

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Raspberry:

As a non-profit — I'm not sure that they can hide what they're paying Tribune

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juski:

will you just give it a rest?

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pynoob:

Anyone ever seen a problem where time stretch on live tv goes all wacky? :D Like is there a way to reset it? Now when I set it to one times the pitch in the audio is all farked?

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jblack:

rasp: I trust sd completely.

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Raspberry:

jblack, I'm just curious what they're paying ... $500... $5000, $10000? ya know — I have no idea what the market value for schedule data is worth

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juski:

pynoob: nope. can't remember ever seeing somebody mention it here either

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pynoob:

hrmmmm ta :P Very odd indeed....

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jblack:

rasp: At this point, they wouldn't know at all.

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Raspberry:

but now I have to pay for my grandma's schedule — so it makes it a mess, especially because payment is not reoccurring

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rooaus:

Raspberry: Quit your whining and setup your own alternative and charge what you want! You choose to use it or you don't, I am paying about $100 a year for guide data and you are whinging about a service where they hope to get it down to $20 per year!

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jblack:

rasp: Then move to HDTV and rely on EIP, limited as it is.

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Raspberry:

i am HD already

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jblack:

Ok, then that's another option. That costs nothing.

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Raspberry:

yeah – I just read that — I'll turn it on and see what happens :P

[08:52:59]

juski:

hey if we had $1 for everybody who whined about SD, nobody would even have to pay a sub :-P

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Raspberry:

heh

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jblack:

juski: the devs have been lifesavers setting up SD... For each whiner out there, there's two people that are appreciative that you guys walked the minefield to get us the data.

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Raspberry:

i appreciate the data

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juski:

yeah it's a very bold thing they're doing. you have to admire that

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Raspberry:

I don't admire that

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Raspberry:

SD is just a secondary middle man

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jblack:

Yeah. I'm amazed that they pulled it off. They must have been impressively dipomatic to tribune

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juski:

somebody had to do *something*. I've not heard much about any alternatives yet & it's getting close to the bone

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Raspberry:

I just built my first Myth box 3 weeks ago

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Raspberry:

and then I learned about this

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Raspberry:

so for people starting out like myself — it's a mess

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rooaus:

I really can not get over how quickly they got the whole thing together, it is a credit to all involved. Even the legals are moving fast (for lawyers).

[08:57:08]

jblack:

Yeah

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juski:

it's a pity that the silent majority don't speak up more often – I was following a few threads on -users & I got pretty miffed at what I'd call a slap in the face for those who are trying to help

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Raspberry:

this 1.4GB update to Ubuntu Feisty -> Gutsy is taking a while :P

[08:58:56]

Raspberry:

why would the silent majority of this topic be any different then any other topic?

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jblack:

juski: Free just ain't good enough

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Raspberry:

it's not free anymore

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juski:

some people just never know which side their bread is butterred on do they?

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jblack:

Oh? Mythtv is becoming proprietary? The codebase is getting locked down, and you're not going to get it without paying someone $89.95 ?

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Raspberry:

yeah — right before linux costs $249.95

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Raspberry:

I contribute to many OS projects

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Raspberry:

Myth will be one of them shortly

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juski:

couldn't happen – at least not the propriatary part. Thank the GPL for that

[09:00:43]

jblack:

I'm sure you do.

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Raspberry:

I just contributed to the wiki tonight

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GrizzlyAdams:

:D i just made my mythtv box appear to be a hdhomerun, so i can slave it to vista & my xbox 360 :D

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rooaus:

Wonder how the subscriptions are going, that will pretty much be the silent majority voicing their opinion. Should run a book on when the 10K mark will be hit :)

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** jblack pounds on sd a couple more times to convince himself he's really getting data and not EIP **

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jblack:

Uh oh

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juski:

ah hell. now the hangover is starting to kick in. damn me & my late nights in town

[09:07:40]

jblack:

I have a problem.

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rooaus:

juski: Heh, always seems such a good idea at the time.

[09:08:01]

jblack:

My program guide is only showing the next 18 hours of data or so.

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jblack:

anything from 8/27 00:00 on is unknown

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juski:

I think I might be getting too old to stay out til 6am

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jblack:

Ok. This is weird.

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jblack:

I'm missing only 8/27.

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juski:

a good day to go for a long walk

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DustyBin:

All my channels are picking up data apart from Teachers TV, Five US and Five Life.

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DustyBin:

http://www.juski.co.uk/antenna.xmltv

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DustyBin:

on your list i noticed you have us.channel5.co.uk and life.channel5.co.uk on your list

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juski:

DustyBin: the version of tv_grab_uk_rt you've got might not have those channels in its repetoire

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DustyBin:

are you picking up data ok?

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DustyBin:

aye ok

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juski:

I installed a nightly snapshot of xmltv a while back – got my ids all up to date

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jblack:

Is there a way to force mythfilldb to refill only one day?

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DustyBin:

i was watching television x last night, very impressed!

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juski:

you'll go blind!

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DustyBin:

yes, jblack in your frontend options

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juski:

I was trying my best not to gawp at lesbians snogging in the nightclub where I ended up. no need for TelevisionX when that's going on

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jblack:

dusty: I mean to re-retrieve just one day, this one time.

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DustyBin:

Utilities / Setup >> General Settings

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juski:

eesh sorry that was a very non-pc thing of me to say. it won't happen again

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DustyBin:

you can do it manually by getting up a terminal and typing in

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DustyBin:

mythfilldatabase

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DustyBin:

hehe

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juski:

jblack: what does mythfilldatabase --help say ?

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jblack:

Which I've done a zillion time, dusty.

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jblack:

juski: I saw and tried --refresh-second. That didn't seem to solve my 8/27 problem

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juski:

it's prolly just a temporary wrinkle. leave it a while

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jblack:

Yeah. It's just a day.

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juski:

dahhhh!!! bright light! I need some blackout blinds for this room

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jblack:

heh

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jblack:

The only big thing I'm missing anyways is Fat march.

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jblack:

Get it? Big?

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foo8ar:

hi all

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foo8ar:

im trying to get a remote encoder to work

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foo8ar:

it shows up OK in the status screens, it has storage mounted (with write perm) over nfs. it starts record and the recording shows up in the list of the recordings. but for some reason nothing gets written to /storage/recordings :(

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foo8ar:

could someone kind soul please point me where too look further?

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DustyBin:

foo8ar: what filesystem are you using?

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foo8ar:

hmm: jfs i believe

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foo8ar:

on the main system

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DustyBin:

check your /etc/exports

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DustyBin:

my ext3 mounts look like this

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DustyBin:

/mnt/netstore 192.168.0.4(rw,sync,insecure,subtree_check)

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DustyBin:

check /etc/exports on server

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foo8ar:

"/storage 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,insecure)"

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DustyBin:

why " < ?

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foo8ar:

?

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DustyBin:

"

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DustyBin:

you dont need >" in your config

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foo8ar:

my irc client didn't like slashes

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DustyBin:

ok

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DustyBin:

try putting in sync and subtree_check

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W6SN:

anyone know what progress there is towards updating gentoo's portage with the new release

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W6SN:

?

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DustyBin:

foo8ar: where did you change the recordings location

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foo8ar:

i think subtree check was autoadded when nfs process started and sync is only for consistency, right?

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DustyBin:

you need to change the locations of the recording son

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DustyBin:

mythtv-setup

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foo8ar:

i did that

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DustyBin:

what version of mythtv are you using?

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foo8ar:

and it shows "/storage/recordings" and of course thats where it's mounted

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DustyBin:

what version of mythtv are you using?

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W6SN:

visit0r: i am barely touching swap

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visit0r:

W6SN: I switched swap off to see if it was the cause, haven't seen the buffering since.

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W6SN:

interesting

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W6SN:

how much are you swapping?

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visit0r:

didn't look that closely, but the processor (Duron 800MHz) is more than enough for mpeg2 so I couldn't figure out any other reason for the slugginess

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foo8ar:

DustyBin: 0.20.20060828–3

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W6SN:

X and frontend are the only two big users on my machine, though I also stripped a lot of apps off of it

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visit0r:

SD MPEG2 that is

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DustyBin:

so your using svn?

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foo8ar:

nope package with ubuntu/debian

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DustyBin:

foo8ar: in mythtv setup, there is a new menu at the bottom dedicated to recording locations, IIRC, there is one for default and one for live recordings, you need to make sure you set them both with your desired recording location

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visit0r:

W6SN: yep I stripped everything I could from the kubuntu installation

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foo8ar:

i will look there

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DustyBin:

i believe if you dont set them up, they default to /mnt/store

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foo8ar:

btw: are there any configs in textfiles or does everything go into the mysql sb?

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foo8ar:

s/s/d/

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DustyBin:

when you install mytht svn for the first time, you need to execute a little database script to create the mythconverg database

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DustyBin:

its inside the 'database' folder

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foo8ar:

well it connects ok to the database

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foo8ar:

on the main backend server

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DustyBin:

no

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DustyBin:

it will be with the source code

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foo8ar:

?

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W6SN:

hm. i look forward to the new version. hopefully portage will have it soon ;) so i can keep working in the confines of that

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DustyBin:

/usr/local/src/mythtv/database/mc.sql

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DustyBin:

thats where mine is

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DustyBin:

you need to run it: mysql -u blabla -p blabla < mc.sql

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W6SN:

sleep time for now

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foo8ar:

sorry Dusty but my question was if ALL of configs for backends goes into the main mysql database mythconverg

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DustyBin:

mysql mysql -u blabla -p blabla < mc.sql <-- actually this i think

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foo8ar:

or if any part resides on the disk of the backend

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DustyBin:

yes i believe so

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DustyBin:

there is only 1 databae for all of mythtv

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foo8ar:

and all of config goes there?

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tfm:

there can be only one ;)

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DustyBin:

frontend and mythtv-setup settings go there

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foo8ar:

ok thanks

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DustyBin:

backend is just a daemon

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DustyBin:

usually started from init.d

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foo8ar:

mm

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foo8ar:

i will look into the setup again

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foo8ar:

DustyBin: No it only had the "Directory to hold recordings" on the second page of the general setup

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foo8ar:

no other path for storage

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dablitz:

hello channel

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dablitz:

is there anyone here that can help me

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dablitz:

i have myth installed and running. everything except my remote

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dablitz:

I have an imon-vfd remote. the lcdscreen via lcdproc is functional. but having difficultites with the remote setup

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dablitz:

anyone

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dablitz:

i could really use the help

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Solv:

is a external sata drive with usb2 connection quick enough for SD live tv?

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juski:

quiet day today eh? I'm certainly trying to take things nice & slow

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nordle:

hi, mythtv has always had a little stutter on panning shots, but I had a small TV so it was ok. Now my TV is less small and its really ruining the movies. I have a detailed explanation here: http://pastebin.ca/671202 But in short, would it possibly help to remove --enable-xvmc --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-xvmc-opengl from the configure script. I'm reading conflicting reports. Many thanks for any advice! (some of this info I gleamed from the wi

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nordle:

Also, --enable-proc-opt. It's used in nearly every example I've seen via google, but I can't see what it actually does. Is there any point in using it on an Athlon64–3700 1GB RAM viewing SDTV/DVD.

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adante:

say how do i tell mythtv to compile against qt3?

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adante:

(as opposed to 4, which it is trying to do)

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briand:

define QTDIR

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briand:

or (less desirable) put qt3 in your lib path before qt4

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adante:

hm

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adante:

so my QTDIR is /usr/lib/qt3

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adante:

sorry /usr/qt/3

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adante:

briand: 'lib path' is a.. env variable or something in the makefile?

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briand:

also, perhaps something like "QTLIB=/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib"

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adante:

briand: that's an env variable?

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briand:

yes

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briand:

and, of course, needs to be in the environment of the user you're compiling under

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briand:

eg, root or myth, or whatever your mythtv user is called

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adante:

yep

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adante:

um, i only have a /usr/lib/qt4 directory

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briand:

heh

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adante:

/usr/qt/3/lib maybe?

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briand:

well, it won't compile against qt3 if you don't have qt3 installed

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adante:

no wait thats the libraries

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adante:

briand: i'm pretty sure i have it installed

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briand:

okay. so QTDIR should = /path/to/qt3/dir and QTLIB should = /path/to/qt3/lib

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briand:

in my setup...

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briand:

`/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin` is the first entry in my PATH variable...

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briand:

and QTLIB is set to `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib`

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briand:

that's on a Fedora Core 5 system

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adante:

alright.. just tried setting qtlib, cleaning & configuring now

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adante:

hum

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adante:

perhaps i am misunderstanding what i'm supposed to do :]

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adante:

briand: whats contents of your /usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin ?

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briand:

[root@myth ~]# ls -lh /usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin

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briand:

total 8.7M

[15:14:22]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 753K Oct 23 2006 assistant

[15:14:22]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3.8M Oct 23 2006 designer

[15:14:22]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4.1K Oct 23 2006 findtr

[15:14:23]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 715K Oct 23 2006 linguist

[15:14:25]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 104K Oct 23 2006 lrelease

[15:14:27]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 149K Oct 23 2006 lupdate

[15:14:29]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 621K Oct 23 2006 moc

[15:14:31]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 46K Oct 23 2006 qembed

[15:14:33]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84K Oct 23 2006 qm2ts

[15:14:35]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.0M Oct 23 2006 qmake

[15:14:37]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7.9K Oct 23 2006 qt20fix

[15:14:39]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5.2K Oct 23 2006 qtrename140

[15:14:43]

briand:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 472K Oct 23 2006 uic

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visit0r:

pastebin plz ;-)

[15:15:11]

adante:

ok

[15:15:11]

briand:

sry. t'was short. :)

[15:15:31]

adante:

its welp, in /usr/qt/3/bin

[15:15:37]

adante:

any idea if this is.. abnormal?

[15:15:46]

briand:

no ideer

[15:15:53]

briand:

what distro are you using?

[15:16:26]

adante:

gentoo

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adante:

not sure why it suddenly stopped working (as in, couple weeks ago it was configuring/compiling fine)

[15:16:53]

briand:

it may well be quite normal for gentoo. the paths i quoted are on a fedora core system

[15:17:06]

briand:

adante: did you update anything, such as your OS?

[15:17:11]

adante:

ok

[15:17:20]

adante:

briand: nup (thats why i'm so baffled)

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|Torg|:

ls

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briand:

well, it needs to find the proper (qt3) qmake

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briand:

that's in the ~/bin directory under your qt3 installation

[15:18:20]

briand:

then, the library needs to be specified in the QTLIB environment variable

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adante:

alas

[15:18:45]

adante:

it is still trying to build against 4

[15:18:58]

briand:

probably finding the qt4 qmake executable

[15:18:59]

adante:

briand: does this look right (PATH and QTDIR/QTBIN settings) http://pastebin.com/m5dcc1951

[15:19:09]

blackest:

Is there a method to get the master backend to wakeup automatically when it needs to record something ?

[15:19:27]

|Torg|:

yes blackest its called rtc alarm

[15:19:48]

blackest:

thats in the bios isn't it ?

[15:20:01]

|Torg|:

actauly its in a chip, but yes

[15:20:01]

adante:

ok, well thats annoying

[15:20:03]

briand:

adante: no QTLIB set there...

[15:20:13]

blackest:

is it accessable from the os ?

[15:20:21]

|Torg|:

usually found under power management

[15:20:25]

|Torg|:

yes usualy though ACPI

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adante:

lol farj

[15:20:34]

adante:

briand: sorry whats contents of your /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib

[15:21:06]

adante:

or nm i'll take an educated guess heh

[15:21:47]

adante:

well

[15:21:48]

briand:

http://pastebin.com/d51d5ebb1

[15:22:03]

blackest:

is there a howto for rtc and myth ?

[15:22:17]

adante:

ok, trie setting QTLIB, QTDIR, QTBIN, path has no qt4, run configure and make still goes for qt4

[15:22:24]

briand:

blackest: there's a few wiki pages on it... in the mythtv wiki

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briand:

adante: `which qmake` from the shell prompt, and report results

[15:23:17]

adante:

briand: /usr/bin/qmake

[15:23:19]

Inssomniak:

anyone have a lircd.conf file for hauppauge DVB remotes?

[15:23:28]

|Torg|:

http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ACPI_Wakeup

[15:23:31]

adante:

looking at the config script, it does try to use the $QTDIR/bin qmake though

[15:23:39]

briand:

and... is /usr/bin/qmake linked to the qt-3 directories or the qt-4 directories

[15:24:12]

blackest:

thankyou Torg

[15:24:13]

adante:

briand: um, it's an actual file, but diff says it is diff to qt3 qmake

[15:24:32]

|Torg|:

blackest, np

[15:24:37]

briand:

perhaps your distro copied the file there, rather than linking it... (bad idea, but that's just my opinion)

[15:24:38]

adante:

briand: but, i thought config script should be using $QTDIR/bin/qmake (which is qt3)

[15:24:55]

nordle:

Anyone using xine with its plugins / filters? ie --post blah. Where did you get your info? Can't see any in the docs, the xine homepage etc

[15:24:55]

adante:

probably

[15:25:00]

blackest:

the master backend is in my bedroom and its like a hothouse in here with a cpl of pc's blasting out hot air all the time

[15:25:07]

|Torg|:

blackest you may or may not like it as not all BIOSs work nice (most require a reboot before after you apply the wakeup) and many clocks are unstable (its why ntp exists)

[15:25:20]

briand:

adante: `mv /usr/bin/qmake /usr/bin/qmake.old` then create a link in /usr/bin to your qt3 qmake

[15:25:31]

adante:

briand: i am tempted to remove it and link the qt3 qmake.. but i am afraid that will bust something else when i try to build against qt4 down the track and cause another many hours of pain.jpg

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blackest:

ntp the time server ?

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|Torg|:

yes

[15:25:55]

mishehu:

hmm... whats the status of cablecard? I see that according to the wiki, the mandated FCC deadline was the beginning of july, but are there any cablecards out there taht work with myth?

[15:25:58]

briand:

adante: in that case, instead of renaming it .old, rename it qmake.qt3

[15:26:02]

briand:

er, qt4, rather

[15:26:08]

|Torg|:

you may also want to look into booting from CF (if you bios allows it)

[15:26:18]

blackest:

from CF ?

[15:26:23]

adante:

briand: yeah i'm probably stll going to forget and bone myself though

[15:26:30]

adante:

oh well

[15:26:30]

mishehu:

blackest: compact flash I imagine

[15:26:36]

adante:

i guess i need myth more than anything now :]

[15:26:41]

adante:

ok it's building against qt4

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|Torg|:

Compact Flash, as in teh sorta fat memory stick?

[15:26:45]

adante:

er sorry, qt3

[15:26:57]

adante:

but anyway.. doesn't it seem wierd it's going for 4 not 3 even with QTDIR?

[15:27:03]

blackest:

well i know it supports usb booting

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|Torg|:

usb = slow

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blackest:

and i have a handy adapter

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briand:

adante: i don't know your setup.. but here.. mythtv is the only application that runs on the mythtv box... so nothing else there will be looking for qt4.

[15:27:48]

adante:

briand: yeah righto

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blackest:

why would cf be handy to have ?

[15:28:18]

pointer:

mishehu: we wil probably never see a cablecard for myth...drm

[15:28:24]

briand:

...and it'll be a while before myth transitions to qt4. I should imagine i'll be updating the OS (at least once!) before then...

[15:29:05]

adante:

on a sidenote.. with mythweb, i try to view recorded programs, mythbackend spews errors and memory usage jumps up 50 meg :]

[15:29:39]

adante:

man this box is so broken

[15:29:45]

adante:

need to flatten and install ubuntu i think

[15:29:45]

briand:

adante: hmm. dunno on that one. i installed mythweb and it 'just worked'

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|Torg|:

put lilo, kernel, /boot, initrd image on the cf and you will save boot time, depending on how may modules and size of system it can be significant. Boot your box and watch, from time your bios screen disapears to time the box says entering runlevel that can all the done off CF at about 1/4 the time

[15:30:15]

briand:

adante: of course, i'm partial to fedora... but there are devs running (and developing) on ubuntu

[15:32:50]

blackest:

ah i see

[15:32:57]

mishehu:

pointer: maybe we should all drive a "put the cum on cumcast" campaign, where we go to screw them. get a ton of people to call in, send letters, etc, to all close out their cable accounts with the complaint that there is no cablecard support and clear-and-open firewire on all subscribed channels.

[15:33:28]

blackest:

actually i have done a test with wol and it took <90 seconds for my backend to become available

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|Torg|:

good, I want saying do it, just you may want to look into it

[15:33:58]

adante:

briand: hm ok, might have to put it on the lookat list

[15:34:06]

adante:

briand: anyway, thanks for your help – been trying to sort this out for weeks

[15:34:35]

blackest:

i will take a look at the acpi rtc alarm thing and see if its practical

[15:35:03]

adante:

anyway i'm going to have a nap.. cheers!

[15:35:17]

blackest:

unless someone has done something to set a cron job to send wol from a front end

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briand:

adante: glad you got it working... :) have a nice nap!

[15:35:54]

** briand has to start the laundry.. :/ **

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blackest:

actually that would be half decent idea if you can find the time for the next scheduled recording in the mythdatabase and write it to a script that sends wol to the backend

[15:39:26]

|Torg|:

I simply write it to a logfile, added an image called PowerOff, set nvram (yes poke it in) then reboot to poweroff, the system reboots, comes to lilo, loads in image then powers off. next thing it does it wakup 5 mins before time to record. it currently is disabled however

[15:40:00]

|Torg|:

myth already has wakeup time as an option to set

[15:43:33]

Inssomniak:

Im trying to set up a hauppauge DVB remote using the included IR sensor, and I have it working but it sends "unknown key" errors, my lircd.conf is wrong

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blackest:

you could use irrecord to get your remote codes

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Inssomniak:

its not working either

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|Torg|:

lirc is simply a lirc.conf file you cretaed or copied, it sends commnads based upon keys pressed, its then sends these commands to a user program

[15:45:46]

blackest:

well i am not much help but i found using lirc cvs got me a working input sensor

[15:46:09]

|Torg|:

if you get Unknown key then you are either sending myth something its not configured for or you have misconfigured one of your buttons

[15:46:35]

blackest:

does irw work ?

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Inssomniak:

irw works but in the logs: Aug 26 11:48:26 htpc av7110_emit_key: code 00001797 -> addr 30 data 0x17 -> unknown key!

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|Torg|:

lircd.conf is incomplete or incorrect

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Inssomniak:

yea

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Inssomniak:

I know I just cant find one for this remote

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Inssomniak:

although its very popular

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|Torg|:

creat it yourself

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Inssomniak:

I cant

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|Torg|:

you cant record a button?

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Inssomniak:

no

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|Torg|:

why not?

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Inssomniak:

irw isnt working for whatever reason

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|Torg|:

then go fix that

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Inssomniak:

well

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Inssomniak:

it worked

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Inssomniak:

it went thru the whole procedure

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Inssomniak:

but it recorded the same code (0x0) for all the buttons

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|Torg|:

then you have the srong timing or preamble set

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Inssomniak:

how does that get(un) set ?

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fryfrog:

don't you use ummm

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fryfrog:

irrecord to get that?

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|Torg|:

irrecord

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|Torg|:

most remotes send out a preamble, many repeat the keys over and over

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Inssomniak:

I dont see any option/way to control preamble

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|Torg|:

did you use irrecord and follow the onscreen instructions step by step?

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|Torg|:

fryfrog hows that ATSC comming along?

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Inssomniak:

yeap

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Aval0n:

hey guys, if I were to setup my mythbox with schedules direct. I want to make as easy as possible. I have analog cable, when I scan the channels with my pvr500, I get the correct standard 100 analog channels I'm supposed to have through cox cable. Then, when I scan for my QAM channels I get another 100+ only 20 or so locking but they all get mixed together in my channel list. I am only looking to keep my local chans in QAM.

[16:15:55]

Inssomniak:

there was initally "hold down some button", then asked for name of each button and hold each one, then at the end press one fast as you can, thats all there was

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Aval0n:

Anyone have any suggestions on getting the channels to lineup correctly without having to manually enter every single one?

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|Torg|:

Inssomniak do it again, if it still fails you have a bad receiver, bad remote, half dead batteries or got tired and skiped a step

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Inssomniak:

Im not sure if it has anything to do with using dev/input driver or not?

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|Torg|:

yes Aval0n scan in every single last one, use mysql directly to delete rows of channels you dont want, then go into scheduledireect and uncheck those channels you deleted

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|Torg|:

Inssomniak ALL hadare depends on its driver

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Inssomniak:

it seems I had 2 choices, use dev/input or hauppauge_dvb

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|Torg|:

Inssomniak what do you use for a reciever?

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Inssomniak:

the one onboard the DVB card

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|Torg|:

what dvb card?

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fryfrog:

|Torg|: My cheap rabit ears got like 5 or 6 channels, i just threw my PVR500 in my server and am going to use that for analog cable

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Inssomniak:

nexus-s

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|Torg|:

fryfrog I thought you got another antenna

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fryfrog:

well, i was using QAM to start with, then found some rabbit ears at my parents lake house

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fryfrog:

haven't upgraded from that

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|Torg|:

put those rabbit ears on teh roof and it will be a big improvemnt :)

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Aval0n:

Torg hmm

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Aval0n:

I'm not realy good with mysql

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Aval0n:

really*

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|Torg|:

Aval0n use phpmyadmin, use mythweb

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|Torg|:

use mythv-set and delete them one at a time

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|Torg|:

there are many ways to delete individual channels

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Aval0n:

I know, but I was trying to avoid that because I'de have a total of 200+ chans to sort through

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Aval0n:

and none of them have names

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Aval0n:

so I have to tune them to see them

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|Torg|:

nad I have 45 religius and spanish channels I dont want, whats your point?

[16:23:09]

Aval0n:

I guess if that's the only way I'll do it

[16:23:20]

Aval0n:

just wanted to see if there was an easier way.

[16:24:28]

Aval0n:

fryfrog

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Aval0n:

how is your quality on the pvr500?

[16:25:56]

Aval0n:

Torg when you mean go into schedules direct, do you mean on their website? (sorry I payed but have not setup anythi ng yet)

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fryfrog:

Aval0n: I think the analog cable in my area sucks, but I haven't used it yet in about a year or 3

[16:27:15]

fryfrog:

i guess i'm about to find out :)

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Aval0n:

:)

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Aval0n:

I've had a real hard time getting it to look good

[16:27:28]

Aval0n:

but

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Aval0n:

the BEST I've managed to get is by doing this

[16:27:36]

Aval0n:

just to help you out

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Aval0n:

Bob 2x for framerate

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Aval0n:

standard XvmC

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Aval0n:

then high quality with res at 720x480

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fryfrog:

doesn't bob need your display output to be double that of the uh... video?

[16:28:19]

Aval0n:

min bitrate 4400 max at 6500

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Aval0n:

fryfrog eh

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Aval0n:

I'm running at 1280x720

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Aval0n:

via hdmi

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Aval0n:

it looks the best for me

[16:29:19]

Aval0n:

followed by linear

[16:29:24]

Aval0n:

<shrug>?

[16:29:42]

Aval0n:

like I said, it's still no where as good looking as going straight to the T.V.

[16:30:06]

Aval0n:

does your pvr500 have the samsung tuners or phillips?

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fryfrog:

[ 861.590350] tveeprom 3–0050: tuner model is Samsung TCPN 2121P30A (idx 87, type 70)

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fryfrog:

samsung, it looks like

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Aval0n:

ahh

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Aval0n:

i hear there was a patch for em

[16:31:21]

Aval0n:

but if you have real grainy looking picture

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Aval0n:

your signal might be too strong

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Aval0n:

fryfrog: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php . . . poor+quality

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psofa:

anyone knows why MythVideo cant write to ~/.mythtv/MythVideo? i get: The operation has been processed but an error occurred.: Could not write

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psofa:

~/.mythtv/MythVideo/0381061.jpg.The directory is pretty writable though :(

[16:56:56]

Esine:

Is it possible to stream live tv via MythWeb like you can stream recordings?

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|Torg|:

yes

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Esine:

how?

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psofa:

uhm lol

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|Torg|:

ffmpeg encode to flv or asx stream to vlc

[16:57:23]

psofa:

it wanted /home/user/MythVideo

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tank-man:

with recent mythweb

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psofa:

lol

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Esine:

I have a week old svn mythweb

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psofa:

*/home/user/.mythtv/MythVideo

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psofa:

it didnt like the ~

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psofa:

Oo

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Esine:

<|Torg|> ffmpeg encode to flv or asx stream to vlc <-- how do I do this? Remember I'm talking about LiveTV here and not recordings

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kash:

sorry bout that, xchat was crashing

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Esine:

can I encode it on the fly?

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kash:

Esine, is it a PVR card?

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|Torg|:

livetv, no

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Esine:

oh..

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Esine:

kash, no a budget

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kash:

oh, then no.

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|Torg|:

not unless you want to record it and then stream that recording

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Esine:

I can already do that but my question was about livetv..

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tank-man:

livetv is a recording

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Esine:

welll... both my desktop (this computer) and the mythtv box run Linux. Can I use mythfrontend on this computer (with no tv tuner) and connect to the backend across the room and expect it to work?

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Esine:

can it send the video data over the LAN?

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tank-man:

yes

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Esine:

cool.

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|Torg|:

how fast is the lan

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Esine:

very cool

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Esine:

100 MB

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tank-man:

i do that on my laptop

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|Torg|:

yes, thats rather trivial to do

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Esine:

good thanks

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|Torg|:

depends on what you are streaming tho, it may make it imposible to do anything else when you do watch tv

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Inssomniak:

etc-updoes mythtv understand the event interface?

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psofa:

how can i exclude a directory under the mythvideo video directory?

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GreyFoxx:

psofa: There is no such feature

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GreyFoxx:

I had a custom patch I used for it where I would place a ".ignore" file in the directory and it would be skipped

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GreyFoxx:

but there is nothing in 0.20.2-release or trunk to do it

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psofa:

:(

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psofa:

now my porn is exposed

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psofa:

lol

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GreyFoxx:

move it outside the video directory

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GreyFoxx:

then when you want access just symlink to it

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GreyFoxx:

delete the symlink when you are done

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jams:

and if you want to get really fancy, you could setup a irxevent. A single key on the remote could add/remove that special dir

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|Torg|:

make sure its the big red button in the middle with the "PRESS FOR PORN" lable

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psofa:

lol

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tank-man:

psofa, put your porn in a dot directory ~/.erotica maybe ?

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psofa:

fuck this

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psofa:

my porn will be public

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|Torg|:

why be ashamed of your porn, wear it proudly!

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tank-man:

chmod your directory

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|Torg|:

hmm why does the color for adult programming and the color of chidrens programs look very close to eachother

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my2keh:

haha never noticed

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my2keh:

i'm gonna be pulling the "make install" trigger soon!

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my2keh:

heh

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Aval0n:

guys I have very faint and only happens sometimes, (like when scenes fade in and out) diagonal lines throughout the picture

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Aval0n:

they are evenly spaced and when they aren't there the cpiture looks good

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juski:

do you live near a radio ham or CB radio user? ;)

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ZmaX:

Hi all. I cannot set up my:

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ZmaX:

Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

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juski:

ZmaX: see www.ivtvdriver.org

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TSCHAK:

is anyone successfully using the IR blaster on the PVRUSB2?

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ZmaX:

thanks, juski

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Aval0n:

juski I don't think so

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ZmaX:

juski, I hope it'll work

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Aval0n:

I am using a wireless adpater and a wireless mouse near by

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Aval0n:

no change when I unplug the mouse

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iamlindoro:

Hi everyone-- Upgraded to SVN trunk last night with a couple of tiny, non-big-deal issues, but was hoping to resolve them... Primarily with MythWeb. I searched the user and dev lists, as well as google, with no result... First, "Recorded Programs" in Mythweb returns nothing but a black box reading "Fatal error: Call to undefined method Program::thumb_url() in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/tv/tmpl/default/recorded.php on l

[18:04:31]

Aval0n:

I do have a wireless 2.4ghz camera outside my front door though

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iamlindoro:

At first I thought I had failed to compile with perl bindings, but checked and I did so

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juski:

iamlindoro: try wiping out the mythweb dir & copy it again.

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iamlindoro:

gotcha, will try that

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juski:

ZmaX: I will not help you in a private message. you want 1:1 help you PAY FOR IT

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ZmaX:

asd

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Aval0n:

juski: do you think the wireless camaera could be doing it?

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Aval0n:

it's about 75ft away from it

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juski:

Aval0n: be worth switching it off for a while just to see.

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ZmaX:

juski, you're right

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ZmaX:

so

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Aval0n:

its up in the attic

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ZmaX:

thanks

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Aval0n:

i'll have to give it a shot

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Aval0n:

I just put all good compress connetors on the cables

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Aval0n:

compression*

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Aval0n:

no hex crimps

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Aval0n:

just to make sure they were done right

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juski:

some of those wireless cameras are just shoddy

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Aval0n:

it's from X10

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Aval0n:

so you're probably right

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jarle:

When a gfx-card has HDTV-out is does that mean HDMI, or is HDTV-out something different?

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Aval0n:

I have an external 2 way cox splitter outside. 1 leg goes straight to my cable modem no splits

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juski:

jarle: er.. check the card's spec sheet

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Aval0n:

and the other comes straight to the mythtv box

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Aval0n:

with a known good 2 way splitter

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juski:

if it doesn't say if it's DVI or HDMI, don't buy it

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Aval0n:

jarle I've had good luck with the nvidia 7300gs with hdmi

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jarle:

juski: it says 2xDVI and 1xHDTV-out :)

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tank-man:

that 1xhdtv could be component out

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TSCHAK:

usually hdtv means component out

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jarle:

my TV that has HDMI input is located apx 6 meters away from the myth frontend, I'm trying to decide if I should go for a gfx card that can send both audio/video in HDMI or a card that can only send DVI..

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ZmaX:

juski, once I've installed ivtv driver

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ZmaX:

what I have to do?

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jarle:

Aval0n: You card has SPDIF input so that it can send both audio and video through the HDMI cable?

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my2keh:

the trigger has been pulled, rebooting!

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Aval0n:

yes

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Aval0n:

jarle it wors great

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my2keh:

if I just did "make install" for mythtv

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my2keh:

and it didn't upgrade myth

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Aval0n:

just make sure your MB has spdig pins

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my2keh:

how can I tell why?

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|Torg|:

my2keh when you start up the backend, what version does it tell you it is? when you start up the frontend can it talk to it? do each of the plugins work?

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my2keh:

Library API version: 0.20.20060828–3

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my2keh:

Source code version: 12354M

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my2keh:

that's the version

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my2keh:

oh wait

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my2keh:

0.20.2

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my2keh:

that's what I want i think

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my2keh:

ohh but it's probably not what i'm thinking

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my2keh:

heh

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|Torg|:

rember nowhere in the code will it tell you its 0.20.x

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my2keh:

source code version should be like 14

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|Torg|:

the code only has 0.20 in it

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|Torg|:

and yes the revsions is more like 143xx

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my2keh:

yeah exactly

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my2keh:

i'm still at 12354 hmm

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|Torg|:

did you stop it, install the new one, then start it again?

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my2keh:

uhh huh

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|Torg|:

did you clean out the old one BEFORE you put in the new one?

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Esotericisms:

anyone have directions on how to upgrade the mythtv suite on fc6, so it can hook into schedules direct? "yum -y upgrade mythtv-suite" doesn't work

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my2keh:

|Torg|>> how do you clean out the old one?

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|Torg|:

well first off insterad of doing make installs you make packages and install those

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my2keh:

nah

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|Torg|:

its posible to have one pacakge mainter put stuff in /usr/bin and you just compile and put it in /usr/local/bin

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my2keh:

packages are for wimps

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|Torg|:

packages is how you maintain your system

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my2keh:

I didn't install a myth package

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my2keh:

originally

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|Torg|:

make uninstall

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my2keh:

make uninstall from where?

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|Torg|:

from the same place you did the make install

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my2keh:

originally? or for this version

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my2keh:

i don't have the old version

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|Torg|:

yes originally, its why I advocated you make packages instead

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|Torg|:

there is now now way of knwing short of looking at mtime and md5sums which is old and which is new

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my2keh:

how do I redo the ./configure

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my2keh:

is that make clean?

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|Torg|:

nope

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my2keh:

or is there like a config clean?

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kash:

make distclean

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kash:

:)

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|Torg|:

make clean will clear out all the objects, compiled libs, etc and reset the makefile

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Esotericisms:

j-rod, you hanging around?

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|Torg|:

make distsclean

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kash:

or make mrproper

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my2keh:

kash, I think ur joking

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my2keh:

heh

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|Torg|:

then run configure

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|Torg|:

then make

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kash:

my2keh, ....?

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|Torg|:

kash isnt joking

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my2keh:

ok heh

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|Torg|:

sometimes I have to wipe out ccache as well

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my2keh:

now I have to make again

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my2keh:

then make install

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|Torg|:

there really is no substitute or shortcut to good pacakge magment

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my2keh:

i would expect make install to overwrite the old stuff

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|Torg|:

if it installs the same things to the same directories, yes

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kash:

use the correct --prefix and yes it will

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|Torg|:

*IF* it is maintained betern revisions

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|Torg|:

*IF* you havent made any custom patched, themes or other modifications

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my2keh:

I use the --prefix on my ./configure, is that what you mean kash?

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|Torg|:

overwritting binaires is never a good idea

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kash:

my2keh, do `which mythbackend` for me

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my2keh:

mythtv@mythtv:~$ which mythbackend

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|Torg|:

as the user that runs the backend my2keh

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my2keh:

usr/bin/mythbackend

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kash:

use --prefix=/usr when you do configure

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kash:

:)

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iamlindoro:

Hey Juski, thanks, that worked perfectly. As soon as you said it I knew it would do the trick.

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|Torg|:

the default is /usr/local/ not /usr

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my2keh:

how the heck do you post something that starts with a slash in IRC?

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my2keh:

./configure --enable-dvb --enable-xvmc --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-xvmc-pro --enable-proc-opt --prefix=/usr

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my2keh:

that was my configure line

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Perdignus:

Hello – Are there any WinTV PVR 150 users here?

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kash:

use /say or hit ctrl+enter iirc

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|Torg|:

\/like this

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kash:

you can put a space, even

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kash:

/usr/bin

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my2keh:

\/usr/bin

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my2keh:

/usr/bin

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my2keh:

ahh!

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kash:

:)

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my2keh:

learn something new every day

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|Torg|:

/

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my2keh:

so yeah, my ./configure line had the prefix in there already

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my2keh:

and I did make install

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kash:

cool, good.

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my2keh:

rebooted and it was still old version?

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kash:

erm

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kash:

did you do make install as root

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|Torg|:

there is no reason to reboot the box, this isnt windows

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my2keh:

yuppers

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my2keh:

haha ok, reboot was for good measure ;)

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my2keh:

old habit

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my2keh:

it's compiling now..

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kash:

first time i read that, i saw old rabbit. second time, i saw old hag.

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my2keh:

i don't need to stop mysql right?

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kash:

i think i'm going blind.

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kash:

no

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my2keh:

haha

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|Torg|:

while you are compiling stop mysql and dump mythconverg for safety

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|Torg|:

you need to stop mysql to dump it, not for any other reason

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kash:

noo

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my2keh:

|Torg|>> did that already

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my2keh:

before I started

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rambo3:

wasuup

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kash:

why do you tell him to not reboot the box because it's not windows, but then tell him to stop mysql?

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my2keh:

LOL

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my2keh:

I can't keep up with all the instructions

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my2keh:

lol

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kash:

mysql is completely unrelated to MythTV besides the fact that it uses it to store data

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kash:

you do not need to stop it.

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|Torg|:

if you want to get a clean snapshot of a mysql database it has to be stopped, easierst way to do that is to shut it down

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my2keh:

ok, i didn't stop it

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rambo3:

my2keh, start the chess program

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kash:

why does he need a snapshot of the DB in the first place?

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|Torg|:

you can stop it, locke the tables, there are many things you can do to back up up

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|Torg|:

shutting it down is just the easist method

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my2keh:

compile............

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|Torg|:

so when he rols a new version of myth forward he can keep his old defentions

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kash:

that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard

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|Torg|:

depends on what version to what version, myth often updates and changes the schema of mythconverg

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|Torg|:

what is, keeping backups?

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kash:

no, shutting down mysql to make a snapshot.

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my2keh:

oh I've said dumber

[18:42:36]

kash:

and of course it changes the schema, why would he need to go back to the old one?

[18:42:37]

my2keh:

heh

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|Torg|:

kash its called a backout plan

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kash:

doesn't make sense to me

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|Torg|:

what dosnt?

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kash:

why he would need to go back a version

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|Torg|:

ummm what do you do for a living?

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kash:

i'm a student

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PuppiesOnAcid_:

Does anyone know of any articles giving general advice for building a MythTV box?

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my2keh:

worse comes to worse, if it doesn't work, I just rebuild

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|Torg|:

ok, well its a basic principal of IT, always have a plan, follow that plan, and plan for that plan to fail

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|Torg|:

kash Ill tel lyou what, go to mysql and drop mythconverg, erase your recordings, delete the mythtv, and start over

[18:45:35]

Perdignus:

Are the IVTV drivers still required for a WinTV PVR 150 or are they now included in the linux kernel?

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|Torg|:

sound fun? becase that is what you need plan for if you dont back up your stuff, and do not have backout plans

[18:46:05]

kash:

i've never had to restore a DB backup when going from SVN to .20.1

[18:46:06]

|Torg|:

the database snapshot is so you have something to rebuild FROM in case something happens

[18:46:07]

my2keh:

let's all play nice!

[18:47:33]

my2keh:

ok

[18:47:37]

my2keh:

so the compile is done

[18:47:40]

my2keh:

now just make install?

[18:48:36]

my2keh:

?

[18:48:44]

my2keh:

anyone still around? heh

[18:50:21]

my2keh:

BAMN

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my2keh:

i think it worked

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my2keh:

Library API version : 0.21.20070820–1

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my2keh:

Source code version : 14304M

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my2keh:

SVN branch : trunk

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my2keh:

wooohoo

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my2keh:

woah, slow down

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my2keh:

heh

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my2keh:

mythweb seems to be foobared

[18:54:01]

my2keh:

oh wait

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iamlindoro:

did you compile plugins from source as well and install those?

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my2keh:

yeah I was just gonna say

[18:55:13]

my2keh:

do I need to do ./configure for those as well?

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|Torg|:

yes

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my2keh:

doing so now

[18:58:22]

my2keh:

this one takes a while too

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iamlindoro:

Hmm, the only problem I seem to have left is that my HD 5000 won't lock when scanning channels any more... must be user eror somewhere

[18:59:43]

iamlindoro:

er error

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my2keh:

hmmm that didn't fix mythweb?

[19:00:27]

my2keh:

still says the same

[19:00:41]

my2keh:

maybe just copy it?

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|Torg|:

did you install the new mythweb?

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my2keh:

well I did a make install from the plugins directory

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iamlindoro:

There's more to it

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my2keh:

or do I juts do a cp -Rf?

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|Torg|:

yes go read the README file

[19:01:52]

|Torg|:

in fact its a rather BAD idea to go arround downloading software, compiling and installing it WITHOUT reading the README file

[19:01:57]

|Torg|:

its why its called README

[19:02:00]

my2keh:

bah

[19:02:08]

my2keh:

I read that after it doesn't work

[19:02:15]

my2keh:

much like building furniture or what not

[19:02:30]

** iamlindoro thinks most of my2keh's chairs must have three legs **

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my2keh:

three! on a good day

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|Torg|:

PLEASE, PLEASE read this document. People seem to skip over this, under the

[19:02:54]

|Torg|:

mistaken assumption that MythWeb will just work with no configuration. While

[19:02:54]

|Torg|:

I've tried to make it as auto-detecting as possible, it usually still needs

[19:02:54]

|Torg|:

some hand-editing to account for variances in install preferences, etc.

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my2keh:

ahh copy did it

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iamlindoro:

OK, so I erased all my capture cards and lineups when I switched to schedules direct, but now my HD 5000 won't lock on (unencrypted QAM) channels... I can see the signal bouncing between 70–100% on the right channels, but no lock... I tried turning up the Signal Timeout but that didn't help... I'm sure I must be doing something wrong since it's been so long since I set it up last... any ideas? Have tried all combinations of Q

[19:11:31]

|Torg|:

you shoudlnt have needed to erase cards, but I dont have a HD5000 or a QAM card, so I dont know

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iamlindoro:

You're right, I kicked myself for it afterwards

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|Torg|:

do you have an old database dump?

[19:12:46]

|Torg|:

for my ATSC cards all I do is tell it what card it is, what type it is, and leave enverything else alone

[19:13:04]

|Torg|:

for my dvb-s cards I have to define a diseq, other then that its the same

[19:13:20]

iamlindoro:

I do have an old db dump

[19:13:34]

iamlindoro:

but not the SQL expertise to use it :)

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|Torg|:

capturecard is your cards, videosource is the sources, channel are the channels

[19:14:38]

|Torg|:

you have a diseqc_tree table if its has ne to define as well

[19:14:55]

|Torg|:

other then that all I can say is go scan it again and do what you did the first time

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iamlindoro:

Hahaha, if I could remember what I did the first time I'd be in business

[19:15:54]

|Torg|:

if you really realy get stuf you can restore that dump, or if you can use vi to only restore certain rows or tables

[19:16:52]

iamlindoro:

Am looking at that section of the dump right now... I'm sure I'll get it figured out, and if not... well, it's my secondary tuner anyway

[19:17:14]

|Torg|:

I take it you are scanning digital cable

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iamlindoro:

Affirmative

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|Torg|:

did you try the dvb tools?

[19:17:47]

iamlindoro:

Yeah, without much success, but I only spent a few minutes on them so I'll go back to it if I have to

[19:18:10]

|Torg|:

that will tell you if you have a physcal problem, loose cable etc

[19:18:32]

iamlindoro:

Shouldn't, haven't physically touched it and it was working last night, but good to know none the less

[19:19:06]

|Torg|:

since its a cable comany I woudlnt be too stupised if they havnt screwed something up int he PMT, hell probbaly intentioanlly

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|Torg|:

if you can tune something and at least dump it you can determine if its working or not

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iamlindoro_:

Ah, free neighbor wireless, now I can play with the cables...

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ZmaX:

Anyone helps me to configure CX2341x tv card ?

[19:21:18]

ZmaX:

I am crazy...

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|Torg|:

free neighbor wireless is my backup networkig plan :)

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iamlindoro_:

nice

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|Torg|:

hell I even TOLD him it was open, he didnt want to secure it becase he didnt want the hassle

[19:22:50]

|Torg|:

I dont even know if he knows how to use his rotuer and access point, its sorta scarry

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|Torg|:

I really dont care as long as he dosnt interfear with mine

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iamlindoro_:

There are 9 APs within range right now... And 7 open

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iamlindoro_:

ha

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|Torg|:

aparments?

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iamlindoro_:

condos

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iamlindoro_:

but close enough

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ZmaX:

nobody helps me?

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|Torg|:

ZmaX it would help if you asked a question rather then just saying what card you had

[19:26:00]

ZmaX:

I just sa

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ZmaX:

sad

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ZmaX:

<ZmaX> Anyone helps me to configure CX2341x tv card ?

[19:26:06]

ZmaX:

<ZmaX> I am crazy...

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|Torg|:

yes and?

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ZmaX:

Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

[19:26:32]

ZmaX:

I installed ivtv and VLC media player

[19:26:47]

ZmaX:

but I cannot scan channels for right frequency

[19:26:55]

ZmaX:

I see only some noise

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iamlindoro_:

perhaps try #ivtv?

[19:27:14]

iamlindoro_:

if there is such a thing here

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ZmaX:

no iamlindoro

[19:27:35]

|Torg|:

http://ivtv.sourceforge.net/FAQ.html

[19:27:56]

iamlindoro_:

Just wondering why you're in #mythtv-users for a problem that has nothing to do with mythtv...

[19:27:59]

|Torg|:

http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Main_Page

[19:28:00]

ZmaX:

I saw

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iamlindoro_:

and being pushy about it no less

[19:28:54]

ZmaX:

iamlindoro, it is very difficult for me to configure that tv card. I tried a lot on wiki and searching on the net but nothing, I am sorry

[19:29:28]

|Torg|:

what istribution do you use ZmaX?

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ZmaX:

ubuntu...

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iamlindoro_:

ok, so again, why are you trying here where it has nothing to do with ivtv instead of #ivtv-dev, as it says in the faq that you supposedly read?

[19:29:47]

|Torg|:

http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu

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iamlindoro_:

YES!!! SUCCESS! Locked digital channels, sweet baby jesus yes!

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ZmaX:

iamlindoro, ...

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iamlindoro_:

Stupid Crapcast hid them way up in the channel range so it looked like I was failing... should have been more persistent.

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|Torg|:

comcrap?

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iamlindoro_:

yep

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iamlindoro_:

Ah, all is right with the world again... although I don't understand the new MythWeather to save my life

[19:33:07]

|Torg|:

dont supose I could perswade you to use that as an ATSC card and tell comcast to go take a hike :)

[19:33:43]

iamlindoro_:

Hahah, believe me I *would*, but I am in the shadow of a mountain and all the OTA signals disappear here, rassafrassa

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|Torg|:

I cant even setup the new mythwether, its putting in strange chars when I put in zipcode and gives me erros when I attmept to add screens

[19:34:18]

|Torg|:

Firefox has weather at the bottom status bar tho, so I dont really care if it works or not

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iamlindoro_:

Yep me too

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|Torg|:

I figire its some script that hadnt been updates yet or something

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iamlindoro_:

But I have learned to always blame myself first and software second so I figured I'd get it eventually

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|Torg|:

first priority is does it show and record tv, second is cn it do music, all the rest is just fluff

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iamlindoro_:

It's TV, Then MythVideo for me

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iamlindoro_:

whoah, I disappeared haha

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|Torg|:

oh yea I forgot mythvideo and dvs too

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ZmaX:

|Torg|, ok, I have ivtv drivers and installed VLC and ivtv-utils to change frequency. I have the right frequency too... but I continue to see some noise.

[19:38:08]

|Torg|:

ZmaX I dunno, is your input working?

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ZmaX:

what input?

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|Torg|:

to the card

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psofa:

mythvideo covers on mythweb arent visible :(

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iamlindoro_:

psofa, does the data directory in your mythweb directory have proper permissions?

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psofa:

yes

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psofa:

though i think i found it

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psofa:

i need a symlink

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iamlindoro_:

How do you know if you can't see the covers?

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iamlindoro_:

ok

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iamlindoro:

Grrrr, now I get to go delete Comcast's HUNDREDS of extra PIDs

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|Torg|:

im sure they do it just to annow home dvr users

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iamlindoro:

Hahaha, well I can pretend they do

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|Torg|:

if comcast had its way you would pay them every time you turned on the tv

[19:46:42]

iamlindoro:

At least have the decency to tell me which ones are the good porno

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ZmaX:

as we italian say: "mi so rotto il cazzo"

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iamlindoro:

And which of my neighbors is ordering "Chicks with Dwarves 4"

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|Torg|:

how can you tell who orders it?

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iamlindoro:

I can't other than knowing they would be in my area based on me getting their On Demand program

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|Torg|:

see there goes your business venture, if you knew who was ordering it you could offer to make them DVDs :)

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iamlindoro:

Hahah, sounds tooooootally legal

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iamlindoro:

And here I was thinking blackmail

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|Torg|:

it wasnt encrypted now was it?

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|Torg|:

you arnt charging for the media its the "service" :)

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iamlindoro:

No, but I'm sure the rights-holders would have something to say about it

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|Torg|:

besides if your neighbor knew you were going to make a VD they would tell you when it started

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|Torg|:

that way you would get eh whole stream and not just when you happend to find out

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iamlindoro:

Hey, I thought the whole point of porno was to AVOID VD

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robbins876_:

I installed myth using fedora and wilsons guide...how do i go about updating myth to 20.2?

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|Torg|:

oops, well you know waht I mean, my typing sucks so sue me :P

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iamlindoro:

hahaha just playin

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|Torg|:

Im going to see if updating my CPAN libs fixes the mythweather problems

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robbins876_:

Anyone know?

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|Torg|:

nope I still gthe the not all data is supplied by existing sources problem

[19:54:55]

iamlindoro:

Yep, exactly my error.. when you get to the bottom of it let me know

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sphery:

hi Spida

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Spida:

hi

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sphery:

got here before anyone could say anything in the other channel :)

[19:56:27]

Spida:

isn't the latest release 0.20.2?

[19:56:31]

sphery:

yeah.

[19:56:47]

Spida:

topic tells something different

[19:57:04]

sphery:

As far as the topic goes, you can read it as "Latest major stable release: 0.20"--doesn't include point release. :)

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|Torg|:

iamlindoro what distro do you use?

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Spida:

anyway, what do I have to change to correct the offset of the EPG?

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iamlindoro:

Ubuntu

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sphery:

Unless you can find a chanop to fix it :)

[19:57:25]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o GreyFoxx

[19:57:31]

sphery:

Spida: what grabber

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|Torg|:

no sphery the topic is actually correct

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Spida:

sphery: de-prisma

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|Torg|:

LIBVERSION = 0.20

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|Torg|:

VERSION = 0.20.0

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|Torg|:

thats from the settings.pro file of mythtv, as of revision 14303

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GreyFoxx!i=greg@out.of.phaze.org changes topic to .:. Welcome to the official user-to-user support channel. .:. http://mythtv.org/ .:. Latest stable release: 0.20.2 .:. Channel FAQ at http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/IRC .:. MythTV Wiki http://mythtv.org/wiki/ .:. Use http://pastebin.ca/ .:. US/Canada Listings: http://schedulesdirect.org/ .:.

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Mode for #mythtv-users by GreyFoxx!i=greg@out.of.phaze.org : -o GreyFoxx

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sphery:

GreyFoxx is on top of things... thx

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jams:

amazing..the imon receivers only appear to work with imon remotes

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jams:

that certainly throws a kink in my plans

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sphery:

|Torg|: I think your update failed... http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/14283

[20:01:42]

sphery:

Oh, you have an old revision--pre-0.20.2

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|Torg|:

Repository UUID: 7dbf422c-18fa-0310–86e9-fd20926502f2

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|Torg|:

Revision: 14303

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sphery:

Oh. I can't read numbers...

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Spida:

wasn't there a epgtimeoffsetsetting somewhere in the DB?

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sphery:

14283 is 0.20.2 and it's in settings.pro

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|Torg|:

current revision is 14312 as per http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/

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sphery:

Spida: I'm looking for it to see if that's the right one...

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|Torg|:

then sphery it was changed for the tarball and not on the svn trunk

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|Torg|:

I assue you its up to date, and as of 14303 correct

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sphery:

|Torg|: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/14283

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sphery:

Read the page

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|Torg|:

I have to compile it twice, one for an AMD the other for Intel, I implictly tell it what revision to get when I do the updates

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sphery:

then you had changes to settings.pro that prevented it from updating or something...

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iamlindoro:

Hmmm... this is strange, do the SchedulesDirect listings not include data about what is in HD?

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|Torg|:

http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv/settings.pro

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|Torg|:

go read it directly from svn

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GreyFoxx:

using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0'

[20:05:47]

GreyFoxx:

koffein_: Nextwave NXT200X VSB/QAM frontend (TERRESTRIAL)

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GreyFoxx:

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GreyFoxx:

oops

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sphery:

|Torg|: He's talking about the release version, i.e. 0.20.2 and 0.20-fixes

[20:06:22]

sphery:

both have been updated

[20:06:25]

|Torg|:

I thought everything in the trunk was also under the release versions

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sphery:

trunk is unstable dev, the release is tags/release-0-20–2 and the "stable fixes" branch is branches/release-0-20-fixes

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|Torg|:

yes but should not everything in stable be also include in trunk? to include versioniiong

[20:08:49]

|Torg|:

at the very least version trunk so that its 0.21pre or something

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sphery:

I don't know. Seems to be working fine.

[20:09:40]

sphery:

Perhaps it was an oversight or perhaps they only update trunk's version info for major releases

[20:09:45]

|Torg|:

trunk normally works fine afaik

[20:09:59]

|Torg|:

in the few cases where it hasnt I backrevved it untill a stuitable patch was fixed

[20:10:05]

sphery:

since most trunk users should have SVN available, the actual version specified by the --version will be much more specific, anyway.

[20:10:09]

|Torg|:

the only case that comes to mind is the atsc pmt problem

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sphery:

Spida: The XMLTV Time Offset description was just changed to "Your Local Timezone (for XMLTV)"/"Used if the XMLTV data comes from a different timezone than your own. This adjust the times in the XMLTV EPG data to compensate. 'Auto' converts the XMLTV time to local time using your computer's timezone. 'None' ignores the XMLTV timezone, interpreting times as local."

[20:12:09]

Spida:

sphery: whats that in the sql-db?

[20:12:27]

sphery:

If that applies to you, then that's what you need. It's in mythtv-setup under backend settings, looks like page 2 (Locale Settings)

[20:12:40]

sphery:

The -fixes version probably has the old description.

[20:12:54]

Spida:

myth-setup doesn't work.

[20:13:01]

sphery:

mythtv-setup, now

[20:13:02]

Spida:

no X

[20:13:07]

sphery:

ssh redisplay

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sphery:

ssh -l mythtv -Y <hostname>

[20:13:20]

sphery:

or whatever

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|Torg|:

xhost +, ssh -X, or XDMP

[20:13:40]

sphery:

but use -Y, not -X

[20:13:45]

Spida:

can't I just set the value in the db?

[20:13:46]

|Torg|:

why -Y?

[20:13:55]

sphery:

trusted X redisplay

[20:14:08]

sphery:

otherwise, you'll get errors/no access to clipboard/etc.

[20:14:30]

sphery:

Spida: you can, but the end result is your problem :). TimeOffset

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|Torg|:

ahh I never really use it, I just xhost + and export DISPLAY

[20:15:07]

Spida:

sphery: ok, what format? "+0200"?

[20:15:29]

sphery:

Spida: mythtv-setup will set it with the right format ;)

[20:15:35]

sphery:

(in other words, I don't know)

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Spida:

ok, thx

[20:16:29]

sphery:

Mine is 'None', so any other value's format I'd just be guessing.

[20:16:42]

sphery:

(Though I'm pretty sure my guess for 'Auto' would be correct.)

[20:17:14]

sphery:

|Torg|: Yeah, I don't trust xhost + even though I'm the only (known/authorized ;) user on my network.

[20:18:12]

sphery:

So I use ssh. With -X it works, though the only reason to use that (rather than -Y) is when you suspect the program on the other host may contain a keystroke logger.

[20:18:15]

|Torg|:

sphery you are correct, im just not that paranoid

[20:18:31]

sphery:

I haven't yet found that code in Myth, so I'm still using -Y. :)

[20:19:08]

sphery:

Yeah. I admit to being paranoid--mainly because I don't want to get "lazy" so that I make a mistake somewhere else (i.e. on a customer's network).

[20:19:46]

Spida:

sphery: I have half a dozen settings that keep me from using xforwarding... *g*

[20:19:59]

Spida:

so anybody here who knows the format?

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|Torg|:

you are right sphery and since I do work with the secirty guys (I dont kow why they put the infrastructure group with the security but the did) I should prbbly pay more attention

[20:22:40]

sphery:

|Torg|: Looks like they didn't update the trunk LIBVERSION (and didn't have VERSION) in 0.18.1 and since 0.20.1 was never officially "released" it wasn't updated then, either. I'm assuming that means they just don't feel it should be updated in trunk.

[20:23:16]

|Torg|:

im guessing something along that lines too, it would be nice if they upgraded it to 0.21 to match whats posted on the wiki

[20:24:12]

sphery:

But then people would think they're using a version that doesn't yet exist. :)

[20:24:25]

sphery:

the 0.21pre would kind of make sense

[20:24:57]

|Torg|:

hey its been confusing me now for nearly a month and Ive asked many many people

[20:25:12]

|Torg|:

untill now I never knew were my source of confusion was comming from, so thanks

[20:25:58]

sphery:

Thank you for letting me know that it's different in trunk and the other branches. I've never looked at the trunk one before.

[20:26:15]

sphery:

(though I've been running trunk for 4+ years)

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|Torg|:

iamlindoro you stil here?

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blackest:

anyone good with compaqs It is supposed to have wol but the bios is crappy doesn't have any obvious way of enabling it

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blackest:

I think there is supposed to be a management console tool you can use but obviously this requires windows even if i had it, I don't want to put a windows install to just put in a bios setting

[20:32:19]

sphery:

|Torg|: I fixed that issue with MythWeather, but don't remember how. IIRC, after installing all the new Perl modules I needed, I kept getting it because I was using the setup page incorrectly.

[20:32:28]

Aval0n:

anyone seen diagonal lines in their SD stuff before?

[20:32:31]

Aval0n:

I can't get rid of mine

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Aval0n:

the picture finally looks ok, but I still get these damned lines

[20:32:49]

Aval0n:

I've put all new compression connectors on my rg6

[20:32:52]

Aval0n:

changed my splitter

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sphery:

amping before splitting?

[20:33:05]

Aval0n:

unplugged my speed controller on my cpu fan..

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Aval0n:

sphery I had to take the amp off

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Aval0n:

because it amplified the lines

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|Torg|:

yea sphery I fixed all my perl issues, it was Image::Size that had a failed install (I must ohave overlooked it)

[20:33:28]

|Torg|:

I stil cant figure out how to set the things up tho

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Aval0n:

the only think i havn't done is unplugged the 2.4ghz wireless camera in my attic

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sphery:

Yeah, the setup pages were so--er--in need of some TLC that I couldn't tell you how I finally got it to work.

[20:34:13]

Aval0n:

because it's in my attic ;)

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Aval0n:

pain to get to

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sphery:

I'm pretty sure that it was the way I was using setup, though.

[20:35:03]

sphery:

Aval0n: antenna?

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Aval0n:

?

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sphery:

or cable

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Aval0n:

I'm using cox cable

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sphery:

Perhaps time to call Cox?

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Aval0n:

they won't come out

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sphery:

They should be able to do a signal test remotely while talking with them.

[20:35:36]

Aval0n:

said there is nothing they can do

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Octane:

i kinda need help, my old myth box still runs apt-get and i need to upgrade to the latest

[20:35:47]

Aval0n:

they said the power lvl is 34db

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Aval0n:

and it's within spec

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Octane:

does anyone here still use apt-get and can share their reps list with me

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iamlindoro:

Torg: Yeah, was just taking the puppy outside

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sphery:

How many and which type of splitters (i.e. 2-way, 4-way, ...) are you using?

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Aval0n:

sphery: the lines are very faint and show up when scene fade in and out and on some white backgrounds

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|Torg|:

iamlindoro go read thogh all the CPAN modules in the readme and make sure they are installed

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sphery:

Aval0n: they're dark lines?

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iamlindoro:

ok, will look

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Aval0n:

I have 1 external cox splitter outside, it's a 2-way. I leg goes striaght to my cable modem and the other to the mythtv box with has a 2-way on it

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blackest:

sounds like you have a lot of kit connected

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Aval0n:

sperhy it's card to desbribe them

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Aval0n:

hard*

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Aval0n:

evenly spaced liens

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|Torg|:

iamlindoro also check the scripts themselves to make sure they are executable and have no include errors

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Aval0n:

lines* diagonaly

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sphery:

|Torg|: Yeah, there was one that was not set to executable.

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sphery:

Aval0n: have you tried plugging into a TV to see if you get them there?

[20:38:38]

Aval0n:

they do NOT appear on the TCV

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blackest:

can you simplify your coax go direct without splitting and see if it cures it and then progress till it reoccurs

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Aval0n:

TV

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Aval0n:

going straight to the TV I do not see them

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Aval0n:

of course i'm using a 13 inch to test that

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Aval0n:

vs a 50" plasma

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blackest:

it could be a bad patch cable

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Aval0n:

i've switched ou my cables

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sphery:

Where was the amp you were using? It should be as close to the post Cox splitter (one that has one line for cable modem and one for Myth) as possible.

[20:39:50]

Aval0n:

except for the main cox one that comes in

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sphery:

If you can get it close to there, it's likely you'll amp the signal /before/ the noise, so you won't amp the noise.

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Aval0n:

i had it right before the mythtv splitter

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Aval0n:

so in my house by my box

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Aval0n:

so there was about 75ft cox cable in my attic before it

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blackest:

it could be too many signals trying to get down one piece of coax

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sphery:

By then--after a long cable run--you may have lost enough signal strength that the SNR was high.

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Aval0n:

when I scanned my chansin myth

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Aval0n:

for QAM

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Aval0n:

noise was at like 50%

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sphery:

I helped a friend set up a Myth box. His cable was unusable (IMHO) when he first installed it (though he said it was "good enough"), and he kept working on it. I eventually wrote up his experiences at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/17953#17953

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Aval0n:

but that was on the kworld no the pvr500

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sphery:

might be useful.

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sphery:

But, if you can find a way to amp the signal before the 75' run, it may just fix it.

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Aval0n:

hmm

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Aval0n:

i'de have to cut the cable in my attic

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sphery:

I have a powered amp 6 inches from the antenna at my place.

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Aval0n:

and add 2 more connectors

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sphery:

worthwhile if (when, I hope) it works. :)

[20:43:12]

Aval0n:

:)

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Aval0n:

other thing is sometimes when I turn an HD input on my box

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Aval0n:

it freezes

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Aval0n:

heh

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Aval0n:

i can go chan up chan down all day on the sd stuff but every once in a while when I tune a QAM HD chan it locks

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sphery:

That can happen with bad signals.

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Aval0n:

=/

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sphery:

(and can be very annoying)

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Aval0n:

sphery: if I have a bad cable on the other leg of the COX splitter

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Aval0n:

could that cause a problem too?

[20:45:08]

Aval0n:

or is it isolated on the other side of the splitter

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sphery:

Anyway, if it were my system, I'd try moving the amp, but if it doesn't work, please don't hate me for suggesting that approach. :)

[20:45:51]

sphery:

Don't know how much isolation you'd get. That's way beyond my level of knowledge.

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sphery:

Someone on the -users list would almost definitely be able to tell you.

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sphery:

But I'd guess that would really only affect the other side.

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sphery:

(and that's just a wild (not educated) guess)

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Aval0n:

do you think a 2.4ghz camera could whack it out?

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Aval0n:

I also have it coming out a hole in the wall with 2 rg6 from my dish network lnbs

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Aval0n:

i was going to cancel dish as soon as I got this working well enough

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Aval0n:

could the dish cables cause it?

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|Torg|:

not unless the sheilding was broken

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Aval0n:

hmm

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Aval0n:

uhg

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|Torg|:

aplify the cleanest signal you can, otherwise remove the amp

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sphery:

and clean signal is closest to the source :)

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|Torg|:

the more degraded the signal the owrse the amp gets, there is acualy a point were the amp works in detrminet to you

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|Torg|:

ALWAYS amp beofer you split

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|Torg|:

I have seen splitters that are rated at -8db that take more like -20db

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|Torg|:

I have notch filters like that too, that notch a whole lot more then just channel 3

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nordle:

Is anyone using mplayer instead of xine or mythtdvd? What command do they use to start it? Just wondering how you get round the fact it asks for a title number.

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|Torg|:

bad cable can make a bridge tap, not nearly as bad as tisted pair wire but still it will make one

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|Torg|:

and a bad brdige tap copnected to a cheap amp can nullify the cable complely with noise

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|Torg|:

like sphery tho I am not an RF Enginner I can only tell you about the crappy cable I get (I live very far out in the country) and what has happend when I tired to make it better

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|Torg|:

its very much of GIGO tho

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sphery:

All the North American cheapskates are starting to get worried about Sep 1.

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|Torg|:

why do you say that?

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iamlindoro:

Torg, did you recompile after checking those CPAN modules, or did simply adding them do the trick for you?

[21:04:18]

sphery:

Lot of "Anyone figured out a working alternative to Schedules Direct" posts are showing up on the -users list.

[21:04:29]

|Torg|:

they still dont work, but I wanted to see if it worked for you

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sphery:

iamlindoro: simply adding them worked for me

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|Torg|:

I can get the scripts to run, but I cant set them up

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|Torg|:

simply adding them shoudl work tho, its perl failing not myth

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iamlindoro:

hmm, ok, adding them didn't work, but I just recompiled, so let's see...

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sphery:

Though I think I got the same errors--even after installing all the perl modules--because I was using the setup page incorrectly. It was very counter-intuitive.

[21:05:36]

|Torg|:

ok I added a module say the animated part, and it gives me an error

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sphery:

(And I don't remember how I finally got it to work--it was about a month ago or so.)

[21:05:43]

iamlindoro:

nope no luck...

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|Torg|:

the ONLY thing I can add is the last piece

[21:05:51]

iamlindoro:

Yep, exactly

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iamlindoro:

Sever Weather

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|Torg|:

yes and I cant get it to look up my area either

[21:06:25]

iamlindoro:

same

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|Torg|:

iamlindoro can you run the perl scripts by themselves? do they give yuou any errors?

[21:06:49]

iamlindoro:

They all seem ok

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|Torg|:

im wondering if I dont have to delte my old weather setup infomraiotn

[21:07:40]

|Torg|:

mythweb seesm to use it correctly tho

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sphery:

|Torg|: I never deleted my old MythWeather setup.

[21:07:54]

|Torg|:

that or plug something into the database directly

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iamlindoro:

How about your visualizations in MythMusic? Mine are not working in spite of having compiled with libvisual support

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sphery:

MythWeb isn't currently using the new scripts. http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3834

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|Torg|:

same

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|Torg|:

yes sphery I know about that one

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|Torg|:

the scrips seem to be using xml files and db files, but I cant see how they are generated

[21:09:31]

|Torg|:

some of them appear to be dos formatted files as well

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sphery:

I may have done a dos2unix on some of them... At least, none of mine are DOS-format, now.

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|Torg|:

im reading thouh bp16mr06.dbx, it seems to be where one of the scripts reads its locations from

[21:11:13]

|Torg|:

its dos formatted

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|Torg|:

I dont know if it would screw up teh scripts tho, they seem to regex search these files

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|Torg|:

I sorta doubt it would

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|Torg|:

I really thing the searches should be changed tho, unless we expect the users to all learn regexes, thats how they are searched currently

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|Torg|:

iamlindoro you do know the alerts are setup by county, right?

[21:18:43]

iamlindoro:

Naw, hadn't really gotten that far

[21:20:10]

iamlindoro:

Hahahaha, but apparently you can add the sever weather alerts as many times as you like

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Octane:

anyone here still use apt?

[21:22:02]

iamlindoro:

I'm sure many do... why?

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|Torg|:

yes Octane, why?

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ZmaX:

http://zmax.netsons.org/a.png

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ZmaX:

|Torg|, you see

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|Torg|:

sorry ZmaX I dont know how to fix that

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ZmaX:

:°°°(

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|Torg|:

her iamlindoro http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3722

[21:44:44]

|Torg|:

go add to the ticket

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ZmaX:

ciao

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nordle:

I'm trying to use this command as the dvd player. mplayer -dvd-device /dev/hdc -dvd-speed 5 -fs -cache 8192 -vo xv dvd:// It works from command line, but from mythtv it flashes up a big black screen (mplayer window) and it vanishes never to be seen again. What gives?

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Ryushin:

Has anyone had any issues with Nvidia's latest 100.14.11 driver?

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Dagmar:

nordle: I suggest using the internal player.

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nordle:

Dagmar: ok, but why? I was using xine as this seemed to have nicer menus/playback. But for some reason, on my largeer TV it refused to play some dvd's without flickering. + it doesn't play my legit "Behind Enemy Lines" whereas mplayer does. Remind me, what value do I need in the settings table, is it "default" or "Default" or ...?

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kash:

Ryushin, no

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nordle:

Ryushin: What sort of issues? or just a general question?

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Dagmar:

nordle: That's your problem.

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nordle:

Dagmar: Whats my problem?

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Dagmar:

I'm simply suggesting using the internal player, and possibly submitting a bug report on it, instead of attempting to extend the scope of MythTV to being responsible for the way other programs like Mplayer (which have nothing to do with it) behave

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Dagmar:

...and I mean "That's your problem" as in "That's your problem" as in being one you created because you're using an external application, and there's probably a better than 3/4 chance that you've left out something you needed to specify to make mplayer work correctly.

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Anduin:

or it is the focus issue

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Anduin:

nordle: and it is Internal (not Default)

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nordle:

Dagmar: One tool, one job, its still something I practice. So the internal player didn't look as good or have decent menus (last year) so I chose xine, it worked well up until I changed TV. I'm not saying you should support mplayer. But take a look on google, there is tonnes of info on using xine/mplayer, its not uncommon. In fact its so common that I didn't think for a second that asking about it would be a problem. As I said, running the same co

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Ryushin:

Stability issues with the latest driver.

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nordle:

Ryushin: Do you have stability issues? How do they manifest themselves?

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Ryushin:

I did a large upgrade. Changed to kernel 2.6.22, updated svn, updated the debian testing packages, lirc, nvidia driver. So I'm trying to find out what is causing the box to lock up.

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Ryushin:

What version of svn is needed for schedules direct?

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nordle:

What card do you have? I'm using .11 on a 6200 and a 7900 and have not had a single lockup for months... using 2.6.22.5

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Ryushin:

I was reading on nvidias forums that there are some people having problems with the latest driver. So I'm going to have to see if I can run 9755 as well as the new 100.14.11 driver.

[22:41:58]

Ryushin:

GeForce 7300 LE

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nitronic`:

hmm, dtvsignal doesn't pick up any signal on my pchdtv hd-5500 card, but when i have mythbackend running, it does. anyone know why this would be?

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Ryushin:

Maybe it was just coincidence. But my box has been rock solid until I did all this. But I wanted to get all the updates so I can move to schedules direct.

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Ryushin:

nitronic`: You can't use dtvsignal with the hd-5500.

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Ryushin:

It doesn't work.

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Ryushin:

There is another tool for that card.

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Ryushin:

You have to use dtvsnr.

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Aval0n:

what's that other program that's just a tuner??

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Aval0n:

I wanna test and see if i get my diagonal lines with it...

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NightMonkey:

Hrm, I seem to have nuked my lower order local channels from my DB. I used to know a way to truncate some tables to force a full channel ID update.

[22:45:12]

NightMonkey:

Anyone recall which tables should be truncated to clear the way for a channel ID update?

[22:45:26]

NightMonkey:

(Against SchedulesDirect data source)

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nitronic`:

Ryushin, wow, i wish someone had told me that earlier

[22:48:55]

Ryushin:

Do the xmlid's change with schedule direct or are they the same as zap2it?

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Ryushin:

nitronic`: Yea, I had to dig through the stuff on pchdtv's forums to find that out.

[22:49:43]

Ryushin:

dtvsignal works with the hd-3000, not the hd-5500.

[22:49:52]

linagee:

is there some sort of fix to make sure my tv guide keeps working? just upgrade to 0.20.2?

[22:49:56]

Ryushin:

Faster tuner than the hd-3000 so that's very nice.

[22:50:26]

Ryushin:

linagee: And subscribe to schedules direct.

[22:50:35]

linagee:

Ryushin: subscribe = $$$, correct?

[22:50:39]

Ryushin:

Yes

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linagee:

fooey

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Ryushin:

It's a non profit company.

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linagee:

Ryushin: what do they do with the money? hold beer parties?

[22:51:12]

iamlindoro:

it's also cheap

[22:51:43]

Ryushin:

It's straight up. All the money goes just towards paying for the listings and for hostings the servers and bandwidth.

[22:51:59]

Ryushin:

They have also taken money out of their own pockets to get this thing going.

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linagee:

Ryushin: they hire a million monkeys at typewriters to copy tvguide.com or something? heh

[22:52:21]

Ryushin:

It's only $5 a month right now. They hope to get the cost down to $20 a year.

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linagee:

$5/mo? yikes

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Ryushin:

I sure do hope they do buy some beer. They deserve it with all the hard work they do.

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Ryushin:

Doesn't Tivo charge $10 a month for their stuff?

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NightMonkey:

linagee: You can't afford two (plain) pizza slices a month, but can afford a myth box?

[22:53:08]

linagee:

NightMonkey: yes. something like that.

[22:53:16]

linagee:

do i get a slice?

[22:53:18]

MrSassyPants:

2007-08–27 00:13:01.466 TVRec(2): Changing from None to RecordingOnly

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MrSassyPants:

2007-08–27 00:13:01.468 TVRec(2): HW Tuner: 2->2

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MrSassyPants:

2007-08–27 00:13:01.474 TVRec(2) Error: Failed to set channel to . Reverting to kState_None

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NightMonkey:

linagee: Well, screen scraping for you.

[22:53:19]

Ryushin:

They are hoping next year it will be down to $20 a month.

[22:53:27]

MrSassyPants:

it simply failed to record something. wtf?

[22:53:37]

NightMonkey:

linagee: XMLTV might have an answer for you.

[22:53:37]

MrSassyPants:

no explanation why or how to fix the issue

[22:53:44]

linagee:

can't i just screen scrape it myself and pay $0/yr?

[22:53:50]

linagee:

maybe i can sell it for $10/yr to others

[22:54:12]

NightMonkey:

linagee: Yes. No.

[22:54:22]

linagee:

no

[22:54:23]

linagee:

?

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NightMonkey:

linagee: You will get in some trouble reselling people's copywritten data without permission.

[22:54:58]

GreyFoxx:

Ryushin: ummm $20 a YEAR not a month

[22:54:58]

linagee:

NightMonkey: how does schedules direct do it?

[22:55:11]

Ryushin:

linagee: To screen scrape is not legal.

[22:55:12]

linagee:

NightMonkey: take the people they are scraping it from out to dinner? wine and dine them?

[22:55:15]

GreyFoxx:

linagee: The data is purchased/licensed

[22:55:24]

Ryushin:

GreyFoxx: Thanks. Typo.

[22:55:28]

NightMonkey:

linagee: They buy a license for the data from TMS (which provides most lineup data for US/Canada)

[22:55:33]

GreyFoxx:

from the same people who provided the free zap2it service

[22:55:37]

GreyFoxx:

it's VERY expensive

[22:55:42]

linagee:

NightMonkey: that's bizarre. why can't we buy the data directly?

[22:55:54]

NightMonkey:

linagee: And they have an agreement that the data is used only for certain F/OSS projects, not for commercial use.

[22:56:01]

linagee:

hmm

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GreyFoxx:

linagee: the company has no interest in dealing with individuals only businesses/commercial accounts

[22:56:21]

GreyFoxx:

so schedulesdirect is being the "commercial account" on users behalfs basically

[22:56:22]

linagee:

GreyFoxx: i hate it when companies say that

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NightMonkey:

linagee: Lots of articles/commentary on this on the 'Net.

[22:56:37]

SiD3WiNDR:

heh

[22:56:46]

SiD3WiNDR:

of course linagee can buy the data directly

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nitronic`:

Ryushin, does dtvscan work for the hd-5500?

[22:56:56]

GreyFoxx:

WEll yes for a lot of money he can

[22:57:07]

linagee:

GreyFoxx: like, $21/yr? hehehe

[22:57:09]

SiD3WiNDR:

exactly :)

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GreyFoxx:

linagee: no. If you buy directly from them many thousands a month :)

[22:58:04]

GreyFoxx:

we're hoping with enough users the price of schedulesdirect can drop to $20 a year which is the goal

[22:58:09]

linagee:

GreyFoxx: each network should provide scheduling information for their shows for free from their websites in a machine digestable form...

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GreyFoxx:

linagee: Most do

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: if they want people to watch their network that is

[22:58:44]

GreyFoxx:

But the fact is that there are 8500 markets in the user and canada

[22:58:56]

GreyFoxx:

all showing slight variations of the shows

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linagee:

hmm

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MrSassyPants:

F/OSS projects can be commercial

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GreyFoxx:

and most of them don't know more than "we are showing stargate tonight"

[22:59:15]

GreyFoxx:

show TMS coordingates with them all

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GreyFoxx:

and writes the show descriptions

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Ryushin:

nitronic`: Don't know. It might. I use myth to run the scan.

[22:59:27]

GreyFoxx:

keeps track of actors in each episode etc etc

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: TMS?

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GreyFoxx:

It's a huge undertaking

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GreyFoxx:

linagee: Tribune Media Services. The people who make/own zap2it

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GreyFoxx:

and a few newspapers

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linagee:

hmm

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: where does TMS get their data from? :->

[23:00:20]

GreyFoxx:

the 8500 markets

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: do they do leg work? call up networks and cable companies or something?

[23:00:28]

GreyFoxx:

and then works it all together

[23:00:35]

GreyFoxx:

tms does the work

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GreyFoxx:

and sells the results

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: hrm... seems like an open source project could replace them. as long as 1 user in every market was willing to do the leg work to gather information

[23:01:44]

linagee:

and then of course make it mythtv compatible

[23:01:55]

Ryushin:

Seems like $5 a month is easier.

[23:01:56]

GreyFoxx:

I have 0 faith that would ever work

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GreyFoxx:

volunteers accross that size are just too unreliable

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GreyFoxx:

and for 0.17 a day I'd rather pay

[23:02:20]

Ryushin:

I'll pay someone $5 so I don't have to do that.

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linagee:

Ryushin: seems that way.... but if you were to add $5 * tons of users, that's a lot of money that you could be paying volunteers instead. or giving them a beer party every once in a while or whatever

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NightMonkey:

Paying "volunteers"?

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linagee:

:)

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Ryushin:

Hence, with enough people, it will drop to $20 a year.

[23:02:54]

GreyFoxx:

if the price hits $20 a year it's like 0.05 a day

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: $20/yr does not seem *that* bad, but $5/mo seems pretty damned close to what you'd already pay tivo/etc

[23:03:39]

NightMonkey:

Pretty easy to mess up the data, either through mishaps or intentional entry of bad data.

[23:03:49]

GreyFoxx:

linagee: so ? It's not acompetition

[23:03:55]

Ryushin:

Isn't the Tivo $10 a month?

[23:04:09]

linagee:

Ryushin: that's only a $5/mo differnce

[23:04:10]

GreyFoxx:

If the data doesn';t have $5 a month value to you then by all means donm't pay

[23:04:22]

Chutt:

tivo's $17 a month with a 1 year plan.

[23:04:25]

linagee:

GreyFoxx: yes, but we got it for free before! :P

[23:04:26]

|Torg|:

Tivo is $19.95/month

[23:04:26]

linagee:

heh

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NightMonkey:

linagee: Well, you're free to pay Tivo. But Tivo is a bit more limiting than MythTV (and even other F/OSS DVR projects), in my opinion.

[23:04:37]

linagee:

|Torg|: $12.95/mo when you pay ahead

[23:04:49]

GreyFoxx:

But with the effort and unreliability of screenscrapers I'd rather pay than worry about pocket change

[23:04:50]

c_plus_plus:

hello, under "capture card setup" what exacly should i put in the "audio device" parameter?

[23:04:50]

|Torg|:

yes linagee, im just quiting whats on their site

[23:04:55]

GreyFoxx:

I loose $5 a month into my couch

[23:05:12]

linagee:

NightMonkey: true. but then you are saying we're paying a company for other people's work? the money isn't going to the project supporters in that case...

[23:05:19]

|Torg|:

I spend more then $5 a month at Starbucks

[23:05:26]

Ryushin:

Oh boy. I get to pay $12.95 a month to be controlled by my PVR. Oh boy. I can't wait. Give MythTV and schedules direct and I'm a happy camper.

[23:05:35]

NightMonkey:

linagee: In which case?

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iamlindoro:

Linagee: Nobody is going to stop you from implementing your plan. Go ahead and do it! But the MythTV Devs busted ass to get a solution working in a matter of weeks, at great expense of time and money. If you have a better solution, do it. If you don't, then don't insult their effort by bitching about it.

[23:06:09]

GreyFoxx:

linagee: actually the intention is to spend some of the excess (if it's lucky enough ot have some) in support of F/OSS projects

[23:06:20]

linagee:

iamlindoro: true... but do they see any of the $5/mo i'm saying? :(

[23:06:27]

iamlindoro:

No, they don't.

[23:06:36]

iamlindoro:

They are a non-profit

[23:06:38]

NightMonkey:

linagee: In the case of SD -> TMS, we're paying people to get the *proprietary* data from a for-profit corporation via a non-profit corporation set up to make our lives easier.

[23:06:50]

linagee:

iamlindoro: oh

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Ryushin:

I hope they at least buy some beer for themselves.

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|Torg|:

iamlindoro they are a not FOR profit, not a non profit. There is a subtlde differnce there

[23:07:32]

iamlindoro:

true

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|Torg|:

it impliclty is an exampltion in the US iRX tax code under the 501(c) laws

[23:07:42]

GreyFoxx:

linagee: hopefully some will help with some F/OSS projects, but that's after everything else is paid for

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GreyFoxx:

so everyone sign up! :) lower my price :)

[23:08:06]

|Torg|:

they are a 501(3)1 or a charitble organizaiotn, and are exempt just like the chruch on the corner

[23:08:14]

|Torg|:

err 502(c)3

[23:08:17]

|Torg|:

damnit

[23:08:25]

|Torg|:

501(c)3

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Akuma:

Hello, I have an azerty keyboard and I can't seem to find any way to get my Alt-Gt+<key> to work with lircrc

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: when does the price get lowered? is there some count down, or minimum number of subscribers, or just whenever they feel like it? :(

[23:08:45]

iamlindoro:

Exactly... any overflow only serves to improve our mythtv experience by being spent on other elements, soooooo....

[23:08:52]

NightMonkey:

|Torg|: Who is a not-for-profit? SD is a non-profit: http://www.schedulesdirect.org/aboutus

[23:08:57]

GreyFoxx:

linagee: minimum numbers of subscribers

[23:09:03]

GreyFoxx:

obviously

[23:09:03]

|Torg|:

yes linagee but you would have to know what TMS charges, and that is forbiden by contrct to be given out

[23:09:21]

linagee:

GreyFoxx: can i subscribe and share the data with friends? lol.

[23:09:29]

GreyFoxx:

linagee: No :)

[23:09:33]

linagee:

oh. :)

[23:09:41]

|Torg|:

yes NightMonkey I dont know in what state there incorporated, but I could go look

[23:10:09]

linagee:

GreyFoxx: ... why were they "giving it away for free" before?

[23:10:10]

GreyFoxx:

Sweet, so far the multirec stuff is working well

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|Torg|:

I dount they have teh 501(c)3 yet either, unless tehy got it the fastest on record. The US goventment isnt exatly known for speed you know

[23:10:24]

GreyFoxx:

linagee: mainly because of the problem caused by screenscrapes

[23:10:32]

iamlindoro:

Because it cost them more in bandwidth to support the screen scrapers than to give it away

[23:10:39]

GreyFoxx:

but screenscrapers are fairly easy to defeat now with little effort

[23:10:39]

linagee:

GreyFoxx: screenscrapes?

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GreyFoxx:

screenscrapers

[23:10:51]

linagee:

GreyFoxx: the data was presented in XML....?

[23:11:02]

linagee:

scraping XML? lol

[23:11:12]

** linagee is confused **

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GreyFoxx:

linagee: No, the data was on webpages and the scrapers would comb through the pages and generate XML from it

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|Torg|:

to make a not for profit comapny you need a corporate licence (comes fromt the state) and a aproced 501c3 exception from the IRS. The first peice takes about 5 minutes teh second about a year

[23:11:31]

iamlindoro:

The data was presented in *HTML*, and someone had to write programs to make that Myth-readable

[23:11:41]

linagee:

iamlindoro: and zap2it did that?

[23:11:58]

iamlindoro:

No, Zap2It was their means of keeping people FROM doing that

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MrSassyPants:

<MrSassyPants> 2007-08–27 00:13:01.474 TVRec(2) Error: Failed to set channel to . Reverting to kState_None

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linagee:

iamlindoro: wait, WHA?

[23:12:12]

MrSassyPants:

?why the fuck.

[23:12:25]

linagee:

iamlindoro: so you're saying we're being punished by having zap2it taken away because some other people are doing screen scraping?? :(

[23:12:32]

iamlindoro:

Zap2It gets the data and parses it from all the US and Canadian markets

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GreyFoxx:

linagee: pay attention

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iamlindoro:

They do it manually, not with screen scraping

[23:12:52]

GreyFoxx:

1. users use to screenscrap zap2it's website for data and generate XML listings from it

[23:12:56]

iamlindoro:

Prior to Zap2It, Myth Users were forced to use screen scrapers

[23:13:03]

GreyFoxx:

2. this caused zap2it lots of trouble

[23:13:12]

GreyFoxx:

3. zap2it setup afree xml feed to stop the pain from screen scraping

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linagee:

ok

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|Torg|:

TMS claimed it was from commerical misusue of zap2it

[23:13:26]

linagee:

4. now they just don'

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linagee:

4. now they just don't want to do it anymore?

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GreyFoxx:

4. some companies abused the service, plus they had a profit loss, plus due to internal changes it would take a lot of coding effort to update zap2it to their new stuff

[23:14:03]

GreyFoxx:

5. someone decided it was no longer worth the effort and bandwidth

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linagee:

|Torg|: commercial misuse? so the new pay service will not be commercially misused because? :(

[23:14:06]

GreyFoxx:

6. Bye bye

[23:14:36]

linagee:

7. That totally sucks

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|Torg|:

actually linage that is one of the dangers of schedulesdirect and only us, as subscibers can stop it

[23:14:56]

SiD3WiNDR:

how would you stop it?

[23:15:02]

iamlindoro:

Which is why people should be paying to support it, because if it goes away, we are the ones who are harmed

[23:15:41]

|Torg|:

how woild I stop it, say lock access to the site by IP address for a ceratin ammoint of time, like only one IP per account per 12 hours or something

[23:15:46]

sphery:

GreyFoxx: out of curiosity (not going to use it myself), PlutoHome can't use the data can they?

[23:15:53]

GreyFoxx:

SiD3WiNDR: There are some ways to mitigate the problem but of course the hows would never be publicly given out :)

[23:15:56]

iamlindoro:

And I'm sure that 99.99% of the people with a mythbox pay more to POWER their system than to provide it with listings...

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sphery:

I pay more than $5/mo for the electricity for each of my 3 myth boxes

[23:16:28]

iamlindoro:

Exactly what I was sayin g

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GreyFoxx:

sphery: We're have to check with Robert or Daniel but I imagine they might have a problem

[23:16:30]

sphery:

and my electricity rates are pretty low

[23:16:34]

GreyFoxx:

but they have find out for sure

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linagee:

|Torg|: do like dyndns does. if you try to ask for the same data more than 3 times or so, your account gets banned. (and have a client smart enough not to ask for the same data over and over again.)

[23:16:43]

|Torg|:

I pay for more then $5 to cool the heat genreates by one of my myth boxes

[23:17:13]

iamlindoro:

Not to mention it's less than a freaking hamburger and fries... get over it

[23:17:20]

|Torg|:

linagee I dont run SD, nor do I code it, no does SD ask for my imput. I just pay $15 for a subscition

[23:17:32]

sphery:

Yeah, so >$5/mo to power the boxes (heaters) and >$5/mo to remove the heat they make :)

[23:18:09]

linagee:

|Torg|: i pay more than $5 in the losses to not working during the hours i spend to set up a myth tv box. :->

[23:18:24]

linagee:

|Torg|: beat that

[23:18:25]

sphery:

GreyFoxx: Cool, thanks. It will be interesting to see what they end up doing.

[23:18:40]

sphery:

But, my subscription is active (and will stay that way).

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iamlindoro:

Anyone who says they can't afford $5 a month but has the time, energy, and equipment to set up a MythBox has bigger problems than SchedulesDirect.. like gross financial mismanagement

[23:18:53]

sphery:

I'm still waiting for xris to put up a donate button...

[23:19:13]

linagee:

|Torg|: or even, "i pay more than $5/mo for the sqft-age rent as a percentage of my mortgage" (california land is so freaking expensive.)

[23:19:17]

Aval0n:

what's that other program that's just a tuner?

[23:19:29]

Aval0n:

xavwm

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Aval0n:

or something

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|Torg|:

linagee I wasnt playing my mythbox is bigger top that

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Aval0n:

I wanna see if my diagonal line problem shows up there too

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sphery:

xawtv?

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sphery:

also tvtime?

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Aval0n:

perhaps taht's it

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NightMonkey:

Funny enough, I'm accessing DD more than 3 times today since I'm trying to unscrew my lineup. ;)

[23:20:10]

sphery:

there is an xvwm, but that's a window manager

[23:20:24]

sphery:

perhaps both share the same neuron in your brain

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Aval0n:

sphery if they doesn't show up there, then it would be a problem with my signal would it?

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Aval0n:

:)

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sphery:

if no lines in xawtv/tvtime, then the signal is fine and there's a problem with Myth config (or your display or your analog connection to the TV)

[23:21:26]

linagee:

someone should have a .torrent source for tv listings. by asking every market what TV shows are on every night of course. ;)

[23:21:29]

blackest:

theres a book review in linux format "practical mythtv" i like the line – mythtv is tough. it devours linux newbies for breakfast, and if you survive the installation, that casual desire(to use the worlds most adaptable dvr) will have grown into fanaticism

[23:21:34]

Aval0n:

sphery I use hdmi

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Aval0n:

I'll test and let you know

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sphery:

then probably not a problem with your connection :)

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sphery:

you'd get sparklies with HDMI

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sphery:

lines for analog

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Aval0n:

sparklies?

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sphery:

(i.e. VGA cable running next to a power line)

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blackest:

analogue drop out

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sphery:

pixels would be the wrong color and "sparkle"

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Aval0n:

hmm

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linagee:

sphery: use an optical HDMI cable. then it wouldn't be subject to electromagnetic disturbances. :)

[23:22:50]

sphery:

flashing different colors

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Aval0n:

well I run the same hdmi cable for my dvd player

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Aval0n:

and it's fine

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linagee:

sphery: oh wait, they don't have that (yet)

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sphery:

I was going to say...

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linagee:

sphery: wouldn't you just love one tiny little 1 or 2 mm optical cable as opposed to a thick 5 or 8mm HDMI cable? hah

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iamlindoro:

*I* wouldn't

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Aval0n:

:)

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blackest:

that'l be the optical hdmi cable with diamond cores and platinum interconnects for perfect fidelity ;)

[23:24:12]

linagee:

iamlindoro: i guess you've never had to deal with 4 HDMI heads. hah

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iamlindoro:

One bad bend and you're out an expensive cable

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sphery:

I'm still waiting until I can get an HDMI cable and sound card to do the 8-channel uncompressed PCM audio that's supported by HDMI 1.3+

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iamlindoro:

Not so, although I am against HDMI on principle

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linagee:

sphery: hrm! true. i'm guessing that would confuse most users. heh

[23:24:57]

sphery:

At this point, I'd settle for a 25mm cable if it gave me the capability :)

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linagee:

sphery: 25mm diameter? that would be one fat cable! lol

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sphery:

even though it would mean moving my frontend and drilling a new whole in my wall since the cable wouldn't bend

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Aval0n:

brb...

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linagee:

how much bandwidth would you need for uncompressed video to the monitor? hrm

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iamlindoro:

HDMI is uncompressed

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linagee:

25 megabits/sec?

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sphery:

Although I will say that one of my main complaints about HDMI cables (versus DVI) is that they use smaller gauge wires that tend to lose much signal quality

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linagee:

1024 * 768 * 32 bits

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linagee:

oh wait, refresh rate. hah!

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sphery:

linagee: depends on the resolution/color dept

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linagee:

25 megabits is just 1Hz

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blackest:

any idea's how to make a compaq wake on lan it is supposed to do it, but i think maybe if its in network server mode so it doesnt need a keyboard it doesnt :?)

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linagee:

1.5 gigabits. hrm

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linagee:

you could do that with a 2gigabit/sec fibrechannel cable. :)

[23:28:19]

linagee:

(1.5 gigabits for 60Hz)

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iamlindoro:

Too bad nobody uses 1024x768

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linagee:

iamlindoro: nobody?

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linagee:

iamlindoro: i use it. :P

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iamlindoro:

1080p is, I believe, 3.4 Gbps

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sphery:

1920x1080 for me

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iamlindoro:

too bad for you

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Esine:

I use it too.. on my SDTV TV

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iamlindoro:

Nobody is going to build an interface to support 1024x768

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linagee:

iamlindoro: use trunking fibrechannel. :)

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JohnQ_:

Is there a page that describes the major differences between 19.x and 20.x?

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linagee:

all that hardware just for a monitor connection. :)

[23:29:21]

iamlindoro:

Yes, that would be much better than hdmi how?

[23:29:28]

sphery:

JohnQ_: release notes...

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linagee:

iamlindoro: smaller cable

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iamlindoro:

That dies the instand someone bends it badly

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iamlindoro:

er instant

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linagee:

iamlindoro: ....

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sphery:

JohnQ_: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes

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linagee:

iamlindoro: so does HDMI

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JohnQ_:

sphery: I couldn't find the 0.20 release notes online

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JohnQ_:

Thanks

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iamlindoro:

Please, HDMI is far more resistant to bending than optical cable

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linagee:

iamlindoro: HDMI cables are so dense and thick, they could not withstand a tight bend

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sphery:

JohnQ_: Also see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.20.2

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sphery:

JohnQ_: And, if you're just installing, I recommend starting with the 0.20.2 (or current SVN 0.20-fixes) version.

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Esine:

sphery, all the fixes in 0.20.2 are also in the trunky, right?

[23:31:49]

sphery:

Most packagers should have that version available.

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sphery:

Esine: basically all those and more (though, technically, some broken code in -fixes was replaced in trunk before the fix went into -fixes :)

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Esine:

ok thanks

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|Torg|:

oh and trunk is numbered consitanly 0.20 so as not to confuse you :P

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Aval0n:

grr

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nordle:

ok, I tried the Internal player and it still fails to play Behind Enemy Lines. So, I had another play with getting mplayer working, and joy it works. Problem is it needs the exact title number to work correctly. So I created a script called longest_dvd_track.sh which contains this lsdvd /dev/hdb | grep Longest | while read L; do L2=${L#'Longest track: '} && echo $L2; done. Now my mythtv commands are simply, mplayer -dvd-device /dev/hdc -dvd-speed 5

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Aval0n:

I installed tvtime but it just says no signal,

[23:36:28]

Aval0n:

under input it just has tC

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Aval0n:

TV

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iamlindoro:

Perhaps Behind Enemy Lines is protected by a version of copy protection that none of them can bypass, ie ArcOSS?

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Aval0n:

but i'm getting nothing but a blue screen

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Aval0n:

blah

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iamlindoro:

That might explain making the specific track work, but the "header" tracks crash it

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nordle:

iamlindoro: It works using mplayer without issue, its quite an old(ish) movie..... ahhhh, so it might work with the other players by specifying the track too...mmmmm

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iamlindoro:

I'd be interested to see whether you can play the WHOLE movie without issues, as they often introduce bad blocks into the middle of tracks

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nordle:

iamlindoro: the track work in mplayer is needed to get it to play any movie, but your right, it might have worked for the xine setting I had previously. I'll let you know in 90min :) Actually, you'll probably here the swearing if it does do that!

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iamlindoro:

haha

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sphery:

Nice... Just had a very scary surge go through my systems...

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fer_:

Hi

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fer_:

I'm looking for GreyFoxx, does anyone know if he's been arround?

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sphery:

I've heard the VLC can play ARccOS protected discs

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sphery:

s/the/that

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iamlindoro:

Yes, he was/is here

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fer_:

iamlindoro, thanks...

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my2keh:

hey, does it make sense afte rupgrading I can't get into Video's?

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cesman:

give details

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my2keh:

umm

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my2keh:

just upgraded to svn trunk

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my2keh:

I can get into the Watch Recordings screen

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my2keh:

can't get into the Watch Video's screen, nothing happens

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my2keh:

however, in my /myth/video directory, the videos are still there

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my2keh:

nothing too interesting in the mythfrontend log

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cesman:

did u compile mythplugins

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my2keh:

yup

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my2keh:

i dunno if it was successful though

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my2keh:

lemme try again

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my2keh:

I just need to do ./configure;make;make install right?

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MrSassyPants:

if it doesn't randomly crash

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MrSassyPants:

which it does often :(

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cesman:

if you've not read the mythtv docs, I suggest you do so

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my2keh:

MythVideo plugin will be built

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my2keh:

i've read them, but based on your comments, I'll re-read

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my2keh:

heh

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Perdignus:

It's a shame about MythWeather not being included, is it being dropped entirely from the MythTV suite?

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MrSassyPants:

bttv0: SCERR @ 374b5000,bits: HSYNC OFLOW FBUS SCERR*

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