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| [00:12:47] | murray: | mornin' .... anyone able to help with EIT / EPG woes with DVB-T in the UK? |
| [00:17:08] | my2keh: | yo |
| [00:17:12] | metalac: | so for some reason my myth sound is much lower than the sound rest of the applications make, any clue what might be up? I pushed everything to 100 |
| [00:19:24] | sphery: | just the different capture sources. |
| [00:19:33] | sphery: | Mine is the same. |
| [00:20:17] | sphery: | digitally-captured sound is at one level, analog (PVR-x50) captured is another, everything else (videos/DVD's/CD's/MP3's) has it's own volume. |
| [00:20:46] | sphery: | Just make sure it's easy to change the volume and all is well. :) |
| [00:22:12] | my2keh: | shoot |
| [00:22:12] | my2keh: | brb |
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| [00:23:49] | sphery: | mrdigital: How's your FC7 install going? |
| [00:30:54] | my2keh: | ok ok back |
| [00:31:01] | my2keh: | jedix>> you there |
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| [00:32:11] | thread: | so I found this note on the wiki: Make sure the vector optimized colorspace option is enabled for Intel Macs. Without this enabled, video output may be distorted. |
| [00:32:21] | thread: | but I didn't find any indication where this option is found |
| [00:32:31] | thread: | be it in os x or mythtv itself.... I can't seem to find it anywhere |
| [00:33:28] | jedix: | my2keh: yeah |
| [00:33:47] | jedix: | my2keh? |
| [00:34:15] | sphery: | thread: It's not in Myth, so I'd guess it's in OS X. |
| [00:34:23] | thread: | sphery: good to know |
| [00:34:33] | sphery: | good luck finding it, though. |
| [00:34:41] | sphery: | (and you might want to update the wiki with more info once you do) |
| [00:35:20] | thread: | I swear it's nowhere to be seen..... heh |
| [00:35:27] | thread: | do I need to register to update the wiki? |
| [00:35:36] | my2keh: | so what didja want? |
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| [00:36:07] | jedix: | my2keh: can you join that chan? |
| [00:36:36] | snarkster: | can I change mythmusic to use xine as the engine? |
| [00:36:38] | my2keh: | done |
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| [00:38:37] | thread: | god damn that was well hidden |
| [00:38:49] | snarkster: | what was? |
| [00:38:54] | thread: | Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> TV Settings -> Playback ... like 8 screens in |
| [00:39:08] | thread: | Use Vector-enhanced color spec conversion |
| [00:39:16] | thread: | I stand corrected — 12 screens in |
| [00:39:37] | thread: | would somebody update that on the wiki for the next poor sap? |
| [00:39:49] | thread: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php?title=My . . . mp;section=2 |
| [00:40:47] | thread: | comment #9 on this page had to point it out to me: http://collectivity.goof.com/articles/2006/09 . . . -x-variants/ |
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| [00:44:50] | d00gster: | thread, what remote control you use with you mac? |
| [00:44:57] | thread: | none |
| [00:45:02] | thread: | was thinking of trying the apple remote... |
| [00:45:13] | thread: | i think i read it works in 0.20 ? |
| [00:45:18] | d00gster: | ah |
| [00:46:33] | thread: | yea doesn't seem to work |
| [00:50:59] | sphery: | thread: That's actually in Myth? |
| [00:51:06] | sphery: | I can't find it anywhere in the source... |
| [00:51:08] | thread: | sho nuff |
| [00:51:20] | thread: | well it was called something slighly different |
| [00:51:26] | thread: | used the word "enhanced" rather than "optimized" |
| [00:51:32] | sphery: | looking... |
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| [00:52:35] | sphery: | Hmmm. Still can't find it. |
| [00:52:48] | sphery: | Maybe it was removed from the dev version. |
| [00:52:54] | sphery: | Sorry for leading you astray, though. |
| [00:53:37] | sphery: | I'd guess it was updated to always set the switch when appropriate. |
| [00:54:20] | thread: | nod |
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| [00:55:09] | missoula: | does anyone know what the status of multiple users is in myth? |
| [00:55:26] | missoula: | users that might have different permissions to different content.. |
| [00:55:48] | missoula: | i read something about it on the wiki for the 06 summer of code ( http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/SoC2006# . . . h_Multi-user ) |
| [00:55:51] | hads: | AFAIK that was a SoC project that not much eventuated out of |
| [00:56:18] | missoula: | yeah... i haven't been able to find anything else about it |
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| [00:58:03] | missoula: | all right, thanks. |
| [00:58:09] | hads: | I think a number of the SoC projects didn't pan out that well. |
| [00:59:56] | missoula: | last years'? |
| [01:00:31] | hads: | Yah |
| [01:00:56] | missoula: | that's too bad.. do they have soc people this year? there's no wiki page about it |
| [01:01:13] | hads: | I'm not sure, I haven't heard anything about it. |
| [01:03:11] | missoula: | i'm working on a project where we were hoping to have per-user stats for myth usage.. |
| [01:03:40] | missoula: | seems like there are at least a couple of components "missing" |
| [01:03:40] | missoula: | :p |
| [01:03:59] | hads: | Contribute patches? :) |
| [01:05:06] | missoula: | it's a thought. we'd really like to be able to stay current with the svn builds though, so it'd be a risk |
| [01:05:14] | missoula: | if they weren't accepted, that is. |
| [01:05:27] | my2keh: | I'd like to see stats |
| [01:05:37] | my2keh: | like this: http://www.snapstream.net/buzz.aspx |
| [01:05:42] | my2keh: | see what people are recording |
| [01:05:47] | my2keh: | I end up finding good shows |
| [01:06:24] | hads: | my2keh: That's understandable. I'm sure if you post a RFC to the dev list about picking it up you'll get some feedback on how the devs feel about it. |
| [01:06:44] | my2keh: | yeah, that's a lot of work |
| [01:06:47] | my2keh: | i'm more of a moocher |
| [01:07:06] | missoula: | well.. there is something like that in myth web right? just a look at what's been recorded on the system.. |
| [01:07:24] | hads: | Um, that was for missoula not, my2keh |
| [01:07:36] | my2keh: | yeah but it only shows what's recorded on my system |
| [01:07:39] | my2keh: | hads>> ok phewf |
| [01:07:40] | my2keh: | lol |
| [01:08:37] | missoula: | i'd like to contribute :) but we need to be careful about how spend our resources — we're only a little summer project ourselves. |
| [01:08:55] | hads: | Understandable |
| [01:10:17] | my2keh: | anyone have their PVR feeding 2 TV's? ie one upstairs/downstairs? |
| [01:10:51] | my2keh: | the upstairs one is just in the kitchen, so a seperate frontend there isn't practical |
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| [02:36:56] | Speedy2: | xris: Yo. |
| [02:39:02] | xris: | Speedy2: click on the "recording schedules" menu item. |
| [02:39:07] | xris: | find the one you don't want, click on it. |
| [02:39:07] | Speedy2: | xris: I'm there. |
| [02:39:16] | xris: | you should get a page like recording details, but with less info. |
| [02:39:28] | Speedy2: | xris: Ok, there |
| [02:39:46] | xris: | radio button at the top of all of the recording options should be "cancel" |
| [02:40:04] | Speedy2: | xris: I don't see that option. |
| [02:40:09] | Speedy2: | xris: Let me try with another browser. |
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| [02:40:27] | robbins876: | I just installed a new HDD and got a partition written to it using fdisk /dev/sdb1 |
| [02:40:34] | robbins876: | how do i format it now with ext2? |
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| [02:41:12] | robbins876: | or whichever filesystem will be best for a 500gb drive |
| [02:41:19] | Speedy2: | robbins876: Search on mkfs |
| [02:42:49] | robbins876: | Speedy2, so I would go mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sdb |
| [02:42:50] | robbins876: | is that it? |
| [02:42:52] | Speedy2: | xris: Ok, I see; that options doesn't show up on entries that have been overridden due to conflicts |
| [02:43:12] | hads: | Yeah, mkfs.something – ext2 probably isn't the best filesystem for a recordings drive though. |
| [02:43:19] | xris: | Speedy2: there are no conflicts/etc for recording schedules. |
| [02:43:30] | robbins876: | is ext3 better? |
| [02:43:31] | xris: | I'm not talking about the "upcoming recordings" page, but the "recording schedules" page |
| [02:43:38] | xris: | robbins876: yes |
| [02:43:44] | Speedy2: | xris: Well, I had a conflict, so I overrode it; it appears in a red box under Recording Schedules. |
| [02:43:53] | Speedy2: | xris: Set to "Don't Record" |
| [02:43:56] | robbins876: | alright, so the command i'm going to run is "mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sdb" correct? |
| [02:43:56] | hads: | People tend to use XFS or JFS a lot for filesystems that are handling large files. |
| [02:43:58] | xris: | Speedy2: the override is its own schedule |
| [02:44:15] | vfrex: | JFS is all the rage these days |
| [02:44:21] | Speedy2: | xris: My mistake, maybe I shouldn't have manually done that? |
| [02:44:28] | hads: | I've had good results with JFS myself. |
| [02:44:30] | Speedy2: | robbins876: I'd suggest XFS. |
| [02:44:39] | xris: | Speedy2:either way |
| [02:44:43] | robbins876: | vfrex: i've got some windows users in my apartment that will likely connect to the drive aswell, will XFS work for them? |
| [02:44:47] | robbins876: | or Speedy2 |
| [02:44:56] | Speedy2: | xris: So if I want to get rid of that entry under my "Recording Schedule", any easy way to do that? |
| [02:45:11] | Speedy2: | My options when I click on it are: |
| [02:45:11] | Speedy2: | Schedule Override: |
| [02:45:12] | Speedy2: | * Schedule normally. |
| [02:45:12] | Speedy2: | * Record this specific showing. |
| [02:45:12] | Speedy2: | * Do not record this specific showing. |
| [02:45:12] | hads: | robbins876: That's not related to the filsystem |
| [02:45:21] | xris: | schedule normally will kill the override |
| [02:45:28] | xris: | and "cancel" will get rid of the original |
| [02:45:57] | Speedy2: | robbins876: You'd have to use SMB (Samba) to share whatever filesystem you setup; SMB would work with whatever file system you'd go with. |
| [02:46:00] | vfrex: | robbins, how are the users connecting? |
| [02:46:02] | robbins876: | hads, alright then... so the command will be mkfs -t XFS /dev/sdb ?? |
| [02:46:06] | robbins876: | vfrex: just through samba |
| [02:46:09] | vfrex: | ok |
| [02:46:40] | robbins876: | is that command correct? |
| [02:46:47] | Speedy2: | xris: Just curious, if I put in a request for a little "X" to kill the entry (last column show in the Recording Schedule) is that something you'd consider implementing? |
| [02:47:00] | xris: | nope |
| [02:47:07] | hads: | robbins876: There's plenty of info on formatting filsystems around the web. |
| [02:47:18] | robbins876: | or mkfs.xfs /dev/sdb ? |
| [02:47:29] | xris: | well, not until I've had a chance to redesign all/most of that whole section, which I'd rather do first. |
| [02:47:35] | Speedy2: | xris: OK, fair enough. One more question, I did a search for all movies and I ended up using over 128 MBytes of RAM. Just curious what settings you have for your php.ini |
| [02:47:50] | Speedy2: | xris: Used over 128 MBytes of RAM and the movie search died. |
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| [02:48:04] | robbins876: | the only concern I have is that the things on the web say like /dev/sdb1, where as when i fdisk -l, i just show /dev/sdb |
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| [02:48:18] | ** xris grumbles about control-W working fine for "delete last word" in bash. ** | |
| [02:48:34] | xris: | Speedy2: look at mythweb.conf.apache file in svn trunk.. that's what I use. |
| [02:48:35] | vfrex: | how many drives do you have in the computer? |
| [02:48:38] | robbins876: | 2 |
| [02:48:50] | robbins876: | sda1 and 2, then this new drive shows up as /dev/sdb |
| [02:49:10] | Speedy2: | robbins876: You'll have to pay close attention whenever you're mucking with a filesystem |
| [02:49:14] | xris: | robbins876: sda1 and sda2 are one drive, two partitions |
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| [02:49:31] | vfrex: | the safest way to do it is to unplug your other hard drives |
| [02:49:38] | robbins876: | I know that much, I'm just wondering if i need to put a 1 after it |
| [02:49:40] | Speedy2: | sda == first drive, sdb == second drive, sdc == third, sdb == fourth, etc; sda1 1st partition on drive a, sda2 second partition on drive a, etc. |
| [02:49:42] | vfrex: | partition from a live-cd |
| [02:49:56] | robbins876: | it really shouldn't be this difficult |
| [02:49:57] | hads: | Just know what you're doing :) |
| [02:50:11] | vfrex: | well, you could do it from a gui and it would be rather easy ;) |
| [02:50:27] | robbins876: | such as system-config-lvm? |
| [02:50:30] | Speedy2: | robbins876: It isn't difficult. To create a filesystem, you're creating/formatting a partition, so yes you'd need a 1 or a 2. |
| [02:54:25] | vfrex: | i don't suppose you guys have any suggestions for a frontend that exclusively fits out static and fuzz |
| [02:54:40] | kormoc: | fits out? |
| [02:54:56] | vfrex: | hmm? |
| [02:55:29] | kormoc: | <vfrex> i don't suppose you guys have any suggestions for a frontend that exclusively fits out static and fuzz |
| [02:55:37] | robbins876: | is XFS use only for SCSI drives? |
| [02:55:41] | vfrex: | *spits out |
| [02:55:43] | vfrex: | no robbins876 |
| [02:55:44] | kormoc: | robbins876, no |
| [02:56:04] | kormoc: | vfrex, spits out? well, my old p3 had a bad sound card that outputted a lot of static |
| [02:56:15] | vfrex: | well, video too |
| [02:56:33] | kormoc: | why would you want static and fuzz? |
| [02:56:43] | robbins876: | vfrex, when i run mkfs.xfs /dev/sdb1 i get -bash: mkfs.xfs: command not found |
| [02:57:06] | kormoc: | robbins876, the command is not found, how's that related to drives of a certain interface? |
| [02:57:29] | robbins876: | hah, it's not, just something i read online that i thought i'd ask about |
| [02:57:39] | vfrex: | kormoc, i'm trying to watch live tv through cable. the goal is to replace the fuzz with real moving pictures |
| [02:57:44] | metalac: | so i noticed an issue with my sound setup. it's fairly low i have to crank up the speaker quite a bit, but on some commercial the sound gets EXTREMELY loud, so bad i have to mute it, any way to remmedy this? |
| [02:57:47] | robbins876: | all the examples were about SCSI drives |
| [02:57:49] | xris: | robbins876: just means you don't have the xfs utils installed. You're fine with ext3... it's less to worry about if you're not particularly familiar with linux filesystem utils. |
| [02:57:59] | robbins876: | alright, ext3 it is |
| [02:58:07] | vfrex: | lol |
| [02:59:01] | kormoc: | vfrex, I'm still lost on why you'd want to start with static/fuzz then. Why not just ask what video out/sound out cards people are using? |
| [02:59:12] | robbins876: | if i just do mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 will that just format the entire drive? |
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| [02:59:16] | vfrex: | ok, let me rephrase |
| [02:59:25] | vfrex: | I don't want to start off with static or fuzz |
| [02:59:46] | kormoc: | robbins876, the partition, yes |
| [02:59:56] | vfrex: | When I run a channel scan from mythbackend setup, it discovers the channels |
| [03:00:26] | vfrex: | when I run mythfrontend to actually view the channels, all I get displayed to my monitor is fuzz |
| [03:00:34] | robbins876: | alright...finally, it's going |
| [03:01:24] | kormoc: | vfrex, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#I_ca . . . ng.__Help.21 |
| [03:02:02] | vfrex: | it tuned into channels fine before I installed the OS |
| [03:03:06] | vfrex: | now I'm running the same OS from the same install disk, just a new installation. followed the same instructions for getting mythtv set up, and I'm pretty sure the configuration is identical |
| [03:03:38] | kormoc: | vfrex, obviously something it up, get it working again outside of myth and then attempt it again |
| [03:03:52] | robbins876: | OK, i'm back...again. Now that the drive is partitioned and formatted, do I have to mount it to make it usuable? |
| [03:04:27] | kormoc: | robbins876, only if you want to store data on it |
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| [03:04:41] | robbins876: | so that's a yes |
| [03:04:47] | robbins876: | is there a way to make it mount perm at boot? |
| [03:04:47] | vfrex: | you'll probably want to add it to fstab |
| [03:04:52] | vfrex: | ^ |
| [03:04:53] | robbins876: | there we go |
| [03:05:39] | vfrex: | so kor, you're saying throw the tuner into a windows box for testing purposes to ensure it still works? |
| [03:05:47] | kormoc: | vfrex, no... |
| [03:05:57] | robbins876: | hate to ask, but what do i add to fstab, i thought by looking i'd be able to tell what i wanted it to be, but i cant |
| [03:06:05] | kormoc: | vfrex, you need to get it working with this os install with another, simple tv app before using it with myth |
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| [03:07:03] | vfrex: | ok, i think i see what you're saying :p |
| [03:09:26] | xris: | robbins876: what distro are you using? |
| [03:10:47] | robbins876: | xris: fedora 6 |
| [03:10:57] | robbins876: | about ot up to fedora 7 once i get all my stuff saved to this new drive |
| [03:10:59] | xris: | robbins876: why not just use the fedora disk manager to do this? |
| [03:11:11] | robbins876: | i didn't know there was such a thing |
| [03:11:39] | xris: | there is somewhere. |
| [03:11:44] | xris: | no idea what it's called, though... |
| [03:12:01] | robbins876: | and for some reason, this drive is showing that it's 6% in use |
| [03:12:05] | robbins876: | and there's nothing on it |
| [03:12:27] | willis_: | 5% reserved space is common |
| [03:12:27] | kormoc: | welcome to filesystem overhead... |
| [03:12:44] | kormoc: | dumpe2fs -h /dev/device will give you info bout things |
| [03:13:00] | robbins876: | alright |
| [03:13:10] | robbins876: | well i got it mounted, but what do i add to the fstab to make it load at boot |
| [03:13:17] | robbins876: | i did mount /dev/sdb1 /store |
| [03:13:35] | willis_: | look at the other fstab entrys for examples. |
| [03:13:35] | kormoc: | man fstab |
| [03:13:48] | Speedy2: | xris: There is some weird bug with r14000, Firefox and lighttpd; putting the mouse on items in the Recording Schedule, it blinks rapidly. I'll get more info and file a bug report |
| [03:13:49] | willis_: | its rather straightforward |
| [03:13:59] | xris: | Speedy2: not a bug |
| [03:14:07] | xris: | it's a browser effect |
| [03:14:12] | xris: | make your window bigger |
| [03:14:14] | [R]: | i have a 5500 doing dvi/vga dual screen perfect... i just got a 5200 and it refuses to see anyting on the DVI... has anyone ever seen this? |
| [03:14:19] | [R]: | nvidia* |
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| [03:14:53] | willis_: | [R], with my dvi nvidia + tv out.. I have to be sure that both are plugged in when the machine boots.. |
| [03:15:04] | [R]: | yeah, they both are plugged in |
| [03:15:28] | [R]: | the only difference is its DVI D on the 5200 and DVI I on the 5500, but its a DVI D cable plugging into a DVI D only display |
| [03:15:33] | kormoc: | [R], only time my 5200 failed to detect a screen was my tv-out, you can always override detection in the xorg.conf |
| [03:15:33] | willis_: | [R], othter then that.. I just use the 'nvidia-xconfig --twinview' option (i think) been a while since i did the config. |
| [03:15:41] | Speedy2: | xris: My screen is maximized |
| [03:15:44] | willis_: | Hmm.. Not messed with the different dvi type plugs. |
| [03:15:46] | [R]: | its saying there is only 1 screen connected |
| [03:15:50] | [R]: | both windows and linux |
| [03:16:03] | willis_: | [R], does the post/bios screens show up on both? |
| [03:16:08] | [R]: | no |
| [03:16:13] | [R]: | but it doestn with the 5500 either |
| [03:16:23] | kormoc: | [R], try forcing it in xorg.conf, but likely a bad card |
| [03:16:29] | willis_: | sounds like a cable issue.. my 6800 shows the bios/post on the dvi and tv and vga outs.. |
| [03:16:37] | [R]: | i put on full debug, its only detecting the vga |
| [03:16:40] | xris: | Speedy2: that should only happen when the moused-over region has nowhere to go.. it appears under the mouse, which causes a "mouseout" event on the parent element, which hides the popup, which causes "mouseover" on the parent, which puts it under the mouse and causes mouseout, and ..... |
| [03:16:41] | robbins876: | /dev/sdb1 /store ext3 defaults 0 0 is that what i add to fstab to make it load at boot? |
| [03:16:50] | willis_: | that looks about right. |
| [03:16:57] | robbins876: | alright |
| [03:17:05] | kormoc: | [R], hence why I said to force it to go, cause no matter what it detects, it should output a signal and be seen |
| [03:17:18] | [R]: | how do i force it? |
| [03:17:19] | robbins876: | is there anyway to verify it's correct, willis_ ? |
| [03:17:25] | [R]: | it says "no dfp detected, ignoring" or something liek that |
| [03:17:34] | Speedy2: | xris: Yes, mouse over related, but it is happening with a maximized screen; my previous release didn't do that (r12xxx) |
| [03:17:39] | willis_: | robbins876, reboot and see if it works.. :) or unmount it and do a 'mount -a' |
| [03:17:45] | robbins876: | alright |
| [03:18:03] | willis_: | [R], try unplugging everythign exxept the one monitor thats not working.. see if it works then. |
| [03:18:18] | kormoc: | robbins876, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/IRC#How_ . . . ed_things.3F |
| [03:18:24] | [R]: | ok i'll try that |
| [03:18:32] | robbins876: | looks like it works, willis |
| [03:18:41] | kormoc: | [R], nvidia's readme covers under X config options how to force a output active |
| [03:18:52] | xris: | Speedy2: it's still just the browser. |
| [03:19:06] | robbins876: | my bad, man |
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| [03:19:27] | eubey_laptop: | can anybody reccommend a good remote for a htpc? |
| [03:19:52] | kormoc: | robbins876, we really don't mind being able to point someone in the right direction, but step by step stuff should be dealt with else where |
| [03:20:06] | kormoc: | eubey_laptop, microsoft MCE USB remote is my fav |
| [03:20:44] | Speedy2: | xris: Oddly, it happens when I have four or more entries in the recording schedule. Any suggestions on a quick and dirty fix? |
| [03:21:24] | [R]: | ok, with the VGA unplugged and just the DVI plugged in it says "No display devices connected" |
| [03:21:35] | [R]: | kormoc: i'm not finding the option, looking thru it now... do you know what its called? |
| [03:21:51] | xris: | Speedy2: nope |
| [03:22:06] | Speedy2: | xris: What web browser do you use? |
| [03:22:10] | [R]: | oh, ConnectedMonitor |
| [03:22:53] | Speedy2: | xris: Note, only seems to happen in Recording Schedule, I don't see it occuring anywhere else. |
| [03:23:14] | [R]: | kormoc: yeah, that didnt work |
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| [03:23:37] | kormoc: | [R], I'd personally just RMA it at this point |
| [03:23:47] | [R]: | yeah |
| [03:23:48] | kormoc: | (assuming the monitor is a known good one) |
| [03:23:56] | [R]: | its been working for months on the 5500 |
| [03:24:29] | kormoc: | for verification, just swap it back to the 5500 and verify it still does |
| [03:24:37] | [R]: | yeah, it does |
| [03:24:39] | [R]: | already tried that |
| [03:25:58] | [R]: | my dad has gotten a bunch of crappy cards, so hes like '5 cards and they all dont work?' he claims i'm not trying hard enough |
| [03:26:17] | willis_: | could be some odd issue with the mb/bios/card/videocarddriver |
| [03:26:35] | kormoc: | willis_, ones that only affect the DVI port are very rare... |
| [03:26:47] | kormoc: | willis_, and in both linux *and* windows |
| [03:27:01] | willis_: | kormoc, yea.. that is odd.. |
| [03:27:13] | willis_: | id almost lean towards the cable/port being bad |
| [03:27:18] | [R]: | right away my dad was like 'thats why linux will never be popular'... such an idiot... our myth systme kicks so much butt... and you'd never be able to pull that off with windows |
| [03:27:24] | willis_: | he did try JUST that port/monitor? |
| [03:27:34] | kormoc: | willis_, with the cable/monitor working fine on the other nvidia card? |
| [03:27:36] | [R]: | yeah, i unplugged the VGA |
| [03:27:38] | willis_: | 'linux allready IS popular' |
| [03:27:50] | [R]: | my dad is a retard, wahat can i say |
| [03:28:35] | willis_: | 'when you make things idiot proof. you are still designing things for idiots...' |
| [03:28:36] | willis_: | :) |
| [03:29:09] | [R]: | wtf |
| [03:29:15] | [R]: | Does the TV5200-VTDF128 (MS-8928–010) supports D-Sub (Analog) + TV Out (S-Video or Composite) at the same time? |
| [03:29:19] | [R]: | No, it does not since The TV5200-VTDF128 (MS-8928–010) Analog (D-SUB) and TV-Out uses the same DAC. So You cannot use D-SUB with TV-OUT. It does work with DVI + TV Out. |
| [03:29:53] | [R]: | thats not the one i have though... diff model, n/m |
| [03:30:05] | willis_: | Heh.. perhaps it has similer limitation. |
| [03:30:08] | vfrex: | lol, yeah linux is really popular. thats why we have so many high quality vendor provided drivers on this platform |
| [03:30:19] | [R]: | but linux said it detected 2 things |
| [03:30:42] | willis_: | given the low quality ive seen of many windows drivers..... i think it all boils down to the vendors being cheap.. or stupid. |
| [03:30:52] | willis_: | give us the specs.. and get out of the way vendors... :) |
| [03:31:00] | vfrex: | lol, true |
| [03:31:24] | willis_: | I have 4 PCI network cards – windows needs 4 different drivers for them.. linux uses ONE module for all of them |
| [03:31:30] | willis_: | same chipset :) |
| [03:31:44] | willis_: | figure that out.. (differnt brands/makers however) |
| [03:31:51] | [R]: | well no, that can't be it |
| [03:31:51] | [R]: | cuz it doesnt work with just the DVI plugged in |
| [03:32:28] | [R]: | i'm sure at the core the driver is the same |
| [03:33:32] | willis_: | if you have just the dvi plugged in , and cant even see the bios, or post screens.... thats a bad sign i think. |
| [03:34:18] | [R]: | thats never wroekd on the 5500 either though |
| [03:34:27] | [R]: | although it did work on an ATI i once tried |
| [03:34:36] | [R]: | but that didnt support Xv on both heads at once |
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| [03:48:47] | R_: | well i found a gigabyte 5200 thats the same price as the MSI |
| [03:48:54] | R_: | think it'll work better? |
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| [04:03:43] | jhatch: | corevette_, to answer you r question, there's alot of cards that work with linux. First, what do you want to do? OTA analog? Cable? Digital (HDTV)? |
| [04:04:19] | corevette_: | cable |
| [04:04:20] | corevette_: | coaxial |
| [04:04:59] | jhatch: | You'll want a QAM tuner then. the PCHDTV HD-5500 and the HD-Domerun are both great choices for that. |
| [04:05:17] | jhatch: | HD-Homerun... * |
| [04:06:01] | jhatch: | The HDHR has 2 tuners instead of the one that the HD-5500 has. |
| [04:06:16] | xris: | corevette_: analog, digital, US, europe? |
| [04:06:28] | corevette_: | digital |
| [04:06:32] | corevette_: | sorry |
| [04:06:33] | corevette_: | no |
| [04:06:41] | corevette_: | what do you mean analog or digital? |
| [04:06:47] | corevette_: | Us |
| [04:07:38] | xris: | analog cable or digital cable. |
| [04:08:12] | xris: | if it's digital cable, then you could get a QAM tuner like the pchdtv card, and you would get digital copies of the HD channels you can record over the air.. or (though unlikely) also digital cable channels that aren't encrypted. |
| [04:08:32] | xris: | or you could do what I do and get an HD cable box, no tuner, and just record stuff over the firewire port. |
| [04:09:07] | jhatch: | At this point would there be a reason to do analog cable? Aren't all the analog channels broadcast in digital as well? |
| [04:09:15] | jhatch: | xris, ^ |
| [04:09:18] | corevette_: | analog |
| [04:09:31] | corevette_: | i have a coaxial cable |
| [04:09:34] | xris: | jhatch: except that analog has a lot of stuff not broadcast, either. |
| [04:09:39] | xris: | corevette_: all cable is coaxial |
| [04:09:54] | jhatch: | ah. |
| [04:09:59] | corevette_: | analog |
| [04:10:01] | xris: | jhatch: I have about 12 broadcast channels, and about 80 analog cable channels. |
| [04:10:10] | xris: | corevette_: for plain old analog, a pvr-150 is your best option |
| [04:10:30] | corevette_: | how can you tell whether you have digital or analog |
| [04:10:34] | corevette_: | i don't have digital cable |
| [04:10:55] | jhatch: | Most cable companies have both, you can check with them to see if digital is in your area. |
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| [04:11:28] | xris: | corevette_: digital cable requires a cable box, and usually costs a lot more |
| [04:14:06] | corevette_: | so for analog, a pvr-150 is recommended...anything else? |
| [04:14:38] | jhatch: | you'll need a computer too... :P |
| [04:15:48] | jhatch: | corevette_, what is your ultimate plan? |
| [04:16:41] | corevette_: | jhatch: to record live tv on my computer |
| [04:17:06] | corevette_: | is the dvr-150 easy to install? |
| [04:17:37] | xris: | corevette_: mythtv is sort of intended to run standalone, not part-time. |
| [04:17:40] | jhatch: | Are you planning to use it as a dedicated pvr or for occasional tv capture? |
| [04:17:44] | xris: | and yeah, it just plugs into a pci slot. |
| [04:18:02] | xris: | no worse than any other card to install, and usually not that much to get the drivers running, either |
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| [04:19:39] | chuk: | if you are using mutiple directories in your default storage groups, how does myth decide when to use one directory over another? |
| [04:20:18] | jhatch: | chuk, never done that myself... Perhaps when one gets full? |
| [04:22:01] | chuk: | ah found something: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Storage_Groups_Weighting |
| [04:22:59] | corevette_: | xris: so i cant just double click on myth tv and select it and run the progrma whenever i wnat? |
| [04:24:00] | xris: | corevette_: mythtv isn't a single program |
| [04:24:12] | xris: | and "double click to open" sort of depends on how your distro has things set up. |
| [04:25:40] | xris: | afk |
| [04:28:44] | corevette_: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/screenshots |
| [04:28:48] | corevette_: | how does mythbuntu work then |
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| [04:32:31] | corevette_: | can you run a graphics card a tv tuner card at the same time? |
| [04:32:48] | kormoc: | yes, you can |
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| [04:34:05] | corevette_: | so why am i not able to use myth tv whenever i want to |
| [04:34:09] | corevette_: | and install it on my desktop |
| [04:34:15] | corevette_: | like ubuntu |
| [04:34:35] | chuk: | who says you cant? |
| [04:35:02] | xris: | corevette_: you just have to leave part of it running all the time |
| [04:35:48] | corevette_: | oh i mean |
| [04:35:54] | corevette_: | when i want it i double click onit |
| [04:36:00] | corevette_: | but i don't leave it running |
| [04:36:34] | chuk: | here's the short version: there are 2 parts to myth, the front end and the back end |
| [04:36:49] | chuk: | the back end should run at all times in the background |
| [04:36:54] | chuk: | should be hidden to you |
| [04:36:58] | corevette_: | why should it |
| [04:37:00] | hads: | If you just want to watch and record some TV then maybe MythTV is not what you are after. |
| [04:37:02] | chuk: | the front end you can load on demand |
| [04:37:11] | chuk: | because it is handing recording of shows for you |
| [04:37:15] | corevette_: | why do you need the backend |
| [04:37:20] | chuk: | see above |
| [04:37:40] | corevette_: | you never said why |
| [04:37:49] | chuk: | <chuk> because it is handing recording of shows for you |
| [04:38:04] | chuk: | if you dont want to use it as a PVR, then dont use myth |
| [04:38:16] | chuk: | just use any old tuning software |
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| [04:38:49] | corevette_: | do they have that for linux? |
| [04:39:24] | hads: | Who's "they" and whats "that"? |
| [04:39:29] | corevette_: | anybody |
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| [04:39:40] | hads: | 42 |
| [04:39:47] | corevette_: | is it possible jsut to run the frontend of mythtv? |
| [04:39:53] | chuk: | no |
| [04:39:57] | Speedy2: | Wow, just watched my first program recorded with Myth. |
| [04:40:00] | Speedy2: | Myth rocks! |
| [04:40:11] | chuk: | but it shouldn't really matter to you, the backend is seemless |
| [04:40:20] | chuk: | if you aren't recording anything, it won't do much |
| [04:40:34] | chuk: | there are lots of things that run in the background |
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| [04:40:37] | corevette_: | okay |
| [04:41:01] | chuk: | as far as you are concerned, you are really just running the front end |
| [04:41:04] | chuk: | by clicking the icon |
| [04:41:09] | corevette_: | yeah |
| [04:41:31] | chuk: | but, mythtv is not an ideal app for just watching tv IMO |
| [04:41:38] | corevette_: | i know |
| [04:41:40] | corevette_: | i want to record |
| [04:41:50] | chuk: | well, then mythtv is great |
| [04:42:14] | corevette_: | if i insert my pvr-150 |
| [04:42:18] | corevette_: | via pci |
| [04:42:22] | corevette_: | is it plug and play? |
| [04:42:36] | chuk: | no |
| [04:42:41] | Speedy2: | corevette_: Myth uses a database (MySQL) and it has a program called "mythbackend" which ties into MySQL and automatically manages when to record, storing what you've watched, your preferences, etc. |
| [04:42:55] | chuk: | you need to setup the backend, and you may need to load drivers for your card |
| [04:43:01] | chuk: | depending on your distro |
| [04:43:14] | Speedy2: | corevette_: the backend and mysql need to be running anytime you need something recorded, that's why it's best to leave it running nearly all the time. |
| [04:43:20] | chuk: | you may want to try one of the all in one clients like mythdora, knoppmyth, or mythbuntu |
| [04:43:33] | chuk: | learn with those |
| [04:43:44] | chuk: | then you'll probably want to roll your own |
| [04:44:19] | hads: | LIST |
| [04:44:29] | corevette_: | "PVR-150/150MCE/250/250MCE – supported out of the box" |
| [04:44:33] | corevette_: | ubuntu supports it out of hte box |
| [04:44:39] | chuk: | yeah, ubuntu does |
| [04:44:42] | hads: | Hmm. This isn't that pop3 session :\ |
| [04:55:10] | kormoc: | corevette_, supported does not mean plug and play like windows |
| [04:58:37] | corevette_: | mythtv vs. linux MCE...difference? |
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| [04:59:00] | kormoc: | corevette_, http://www.google.com/search?q=mythtv%20vs%20linux%20mce |
| [05:01:01] | juski: | heh. linuxMCE is heavy alpha software, hyped by people on digg as the 'next big thing'. mythtv 'just works' (if you know what you're doing) |
| [05:03:51] | juski: | kormoc: AFAIK nothing plugs & plays in windows anyway. driver installation is still very much hit & miss. At least in linux drivers don't tend to 'disappear' until you do stuff like update the kernel ;) |
| [05:04:13] | hads: | Isn't linuxmce just a distro? |
| [05:04:15] | juski: | guy I know who uses MCE at work was moaning the other day he had to reinstall his tuner card drivers for no apparent reason |
| [05:04:19] | ** hads goes to look ** | |
| [05:04:41] | kormoc: | juski, heh, fair nuff |
| [05:05:02] | juski: | linuxmce is based on plutohome, a commercial offerring which aimed to be a complete home 'hub' integrating media centre functions with house control etc |
| [05:05:22] | juski: | it uses bits of mythtv & wraps them up in its own awful ui |
| [05:05:50] | hads: | Oh yeah. I thought it used myth. Never really bothered to look much. |
| [05:06:02] | kormoc: | I'd describe it's ui as could look sharp with a lot of work, but currently would drive me crazy in a few minutes |
| [05:06:26] | juski: | long term I personally reckon it'd have been better to make mythtv integrate with other apps much better (like the HA stuff) |
| [05:07:42] | kormoc: | juski, telnet interface is a step that way |
| [05:07:55] | ** juski wonders how long it'll be before the guy gives up ** | |
| [05:08:41] | Speedy2: | First, commercial skip in myth is an awesome f'ing feature. Secondly, I played back my first mythtv recorded video and found the commercial skip had made a mistake; it jumped too large of a commercial break (6 mins) pushing past the end of the TV episode. What are some things I can do to tune commercial skip? |
| [05:09:34] | juski: | you can't really tune the commercial flagging other than to try different methods |
| [05:09:38] | hads: | Speedy2: I find it really depends on the show and the channel. |
| [05:09:51] | hads: | Some work great here, others get it wrong all the time. |
| [05:10:08] | hads: | I just take it as a bonus when it works :) |
| [05:10:16] | juski: | hardly works at all in the UK, for example. I just use a 4 minute skip+ :) it's no hassle to have to press one button |
| [05:10:22] | jhatch: | try turning on strict commercial flagging if it's not on already. |
| [05:10:33] | jhatch: | That's what made it better for me. |
| [05:10:50] | hads: | juski: heh, that's a big skip+ |
| [05:10:54] | Speedy2: | Interesting, thanks for all the tips |
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| [05:11:15] | juski: | hads: catches most if not all breaks though |
| [05:11:23] | Speedy2: | I think having some heuristic that a commercial break isn't longer than 3 mins or something would have helped in my case. |
| [05:11:30] | hads: | I think I use 20seconds forward and 15 back |
| [05:11:31] | jhatch: | Speedy2, what was your first show? |
| [05:11:35] | Speedy2: | It figured out where the start of the break perfectly |
| [05:11:40] | Speedy2: | jhatch: M*A*S*H |
| [05:11:57] | jhatch: | Good show. :) |
| [05:11:59] | Speedy2: | both times, it figured out the start. Only the second time it didn't get the ending time of the commercial break correctly. |
| [05:12:37] | jhatch: | Speedy2, do you have it set up do use all methods of flagginf? |
| [05:12:39] | jhatch: | ing |
| [05:12:53] | kormoc: | I've never had M*A*S*H correctly detect on any combo of flagging |
| [05:13:18] | ** jhatch has never scheduled M*A*S*H to record, just watched it live... ** | |
| [05:13:24] | Speedy2: | jhatch: I need to check the options, one sec |
| [05:13:37] | Speedy2: | Damn mythweb is nice. |
| [05:13:46] | jhatch: | Isn't it though? :) |
| [05:13:59] | Speedy2: | hrm |
| [05:14:05] | Speedy2: | MaximumCommercialSkip is set to 3600 on my setup |
| [05:14:19] | Speedy2: | CommercialSkipMethod is set to 255 (is that all methods on?) |
| [05:14:33] | kormoc: | yes, it's a bit based value |
| [05:14:41] | jhatch: | Probably, I never look there... |
| [05:15:08] | juski: | developers spend hours working on a UI for you to change settings & what do you do? hack the db.. :-\ |
| [05:15:12] | Speedy2: | jhatch: Is there another way to check the commskip settings from myth? |
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| [07:13:30] | tafkaz: | hallo and good morning (here in DE) |
| [07:13:31] | tafkaz: | i have finally got my myth-box up and running. really impressive piece of software... |
| [07:13:31] | tafkaz: | but i cant believe though is, that it seems to be such a pain in the a** to edit your channel list....i mean, i have about 700 channels which i want to edit (visible/invisible) and sort |
| [07:13:44] | tafkaz: | how do you so that....cant be this hard... |
| [07:14:24] | hads: | If the GUI isn't doing it for you try mythweb, or mysql |
| [07:14:54] | tafkaz: | mythweb is rather slow, besides you cant edit a whole block of channels, you will have to edit every single channel by hand |
| [07:15:10] | tafkaz: | the gui should do it for me ? |
| [07:15:15] | MilkBoy: | mmm.. "update channels set visible = '0'" =) then you won't have any crap to watch anyway |
| [07:15:41] | hads: | "mythweb is rather slow"? |
| [07:15:58] | tafkaz: | yes the channel editor....with so many channels... |
| [07:16:10] | kormoc: | tafkaz, uhh, what about the channel edit page in mythweb where it lists all the channels in one page, how is that one by one? |
| [07:16:27] | kormoc: | and it's only as slow as the browser is |
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| [07:17:15] | tafkaz: | well of course, but thats even worse...with more than 700 channels you will have to go through every single channel, find the visible flag and set it |
| [07:17:46] | kormoc: | tafkaz, what are you attempting to do? likely it's much easier to just poke the db... |
| [07:18:01] | hads: | If the GUI isn't doing it for you try mysql |
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| [07:18:53] | tafkaz: | well....i have much to many channels after the scan...loads of 24h porn-telephonenumberchannels, strange information-channels and stuff |
| [07:18:54] | Speedy2: | tafkaz: You may want to consider a mysql frontend like tora |
| [07:19:17] | tafkaz: | i want to sort out the ones i really need, and then put them in a desired order |
| [07:19:22] | kormoc: | tafkaz, as MilkBoy said, it's easy to mass set them all one way or the other, but really, you can't expect it to read your mind and just pick the ones for you... |
| [07:19:41] | hads: | Quite. And as everyone has said... use SQL |
| [07:19:58] | Speedy2: | tafkaz: Unfortunately, right now, there is no better channel editor. |
| [07:20:08] | tafkaz: | no of course not.... |
| [07:20:09] | tafkaz: | what i was thinking of was a channel-editor in the style of, lets say this one here perhaps: |
| [07:20:29] | hads: | Make a patch? |
| [07:21:00] | tafkaz: | http://www.setedit.de/startup_e.html |
| [07:21:18] | tafkaz: | i guess we could need something like that ! |
| [07:21:43] | kormoc: | tafkaz, I look forward to your patches, please attach them to tickets on http://svn.mythtv.org |
| [07:22:05] | tafkaz: | hehe, i am just talking to our software engineer....really ! |
| [07:22:33] | tafkaz: | what would be the best way to do it...java, php ? |
| [07:22:38] | tafkaz: | what do you think...? |
| [07:22:48] | Speedy2: | tafkaz: Java or Tcl/Tk or Qt. |
| [07:22:55] | kormoc: | tafkaz, myth is written in c++ with QT |
| [07:23:12] | juski: | tafkaz: thing you have to remember is that mythtv is supposed to be usable from a '10 foot' interface |
| [07:23:13] | Speedy2: | tafkaz: Java because it is cross-platform. Tcl/Tk or Qt because both of them are also cross-platform |
| [07:23:19] | tafkaz: | i would like to have it absolutely platform independent |
| [07:23:35] | kormoc: | Speedy2, no java or tcl/tk hooks with mythtv |
| [07:23:46] | juski: | considering you really only need set up your channels _once_ I don't see what the fuss is about |
| [07:23:53] | Speedy2: | kormoc: The channel editor program could hook directly to mysql. |
| [07:24:21] | kormoc: | Speedy2, could, but breaks the interface of myth and thus wouldn't likely be accepted in |
| [07:25:01] | juski: | somebody would need to maintain a separate app & keep it up to date with database schema changes |
| [07:25:11] | juski: | serious breakage could result, otherwise |
| [07:25:12] | Speedy2: | kormoc: I'm sure it wouldn't be officially sanctioned, but it would be nice if there was a PC/computer method to organize and deal with channels. |
| [07:25:14] | hads: | Yeah, kinda pointless really |
| [07:26:00] | juski: | I'm sure it wouldn't be officially sanctioned, but if we had just $1 for everytime somebody said "mythtv should" we'd be able to afford professional full-time programmers |
| [07:26:20] | kormoc: | Speedy2, personally, I don't see the point, as for any complicated updates, I need to hand edit them all (mythweb) or I can write a sql query to do it for me |
| [07:26:22] | hads: | There's already mythtv-setup, mythweb and if you need to, SQL. |
| [07:27:09] | juski: | anyway if you really must mangle the channel table in a 'better' editor there's always myphpadmin & the likes |
| [07:27:20] | juski: | or mythweb |
| [07:27:37] | juski: | wouldn't be too hard to adapt mythweb's channel editor to allow you to change more fields |
| [07:27:47] | hads: | Circular conversation detected, aborting. |
| [07:28:32] | juski: | bloody users. always wanting stuff |
| [07:29:18] | Tanthrix_AFK: | And to add a completely unrelated opinion into the mix, I really hate ID3v2 tags. Whose brilliant idea was it to put the metadata at the beginnning of the file so that the whole damn thing has to be rewritten (at least in windows) to update info? |
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| [07:29:24] | Speedy2: | Hey, we're really grateful for what myth can do. |
| [07:30:03] | juski: | you all know we're not saying 'we look forward to your patches' out of spite, right? |
| [07:30:16] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, it's to help with streaming, so you don't need the full file before you can display meta-data |
| [07:30:43] | Speedy2: | juski: I'm working on fixing the issues I find, I'll submit when they're usable |
| [07:31:17] | Tanthrix: | kormoc: Ahh, I see. Well, it's good to know there was some reason for the change. Still, it's freaking annoying and ultimately not worth it in my opinion. |
| [07:31:33] | juski: | Speedy2: not everybody is so understanding :) |
| [07:31:48] | juski: | speaking from my own PoV, I'm not into this for anybody else |
| [07:32:09] | Tanthrix: | kormoc: Are files not being able to be appended at the beginning a problem with the filesystem or OS? |
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| [07:32:29] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, combo of both more likely then not |
| [07:32:49] | Tanthrix: | Linux bound by the same problem? |
| [07:33:05] | Tanthrix: | Always use my winbox for all my mp3 stuff, so I've never tried it. |
| [07:33:06] | kormoc: | not that I'm aware of |
| [07:33:19] | kormoc: | but then again, I never really speed tested it to find out |
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| [07:38:34] | xris: | Tanthrix: probably depends on the program doing the saving |
| [07:38:53] | xris: | and linux filesystem cache. |
| [07:39:16] | xris: | I've noticed when saving mp3 files, the first save is slow, but if I change something after that, things go pretty quickly |
| [07:39:28] | xris: | so the library could be optimizing the space-usage within the tag or something |
| [07:39:33] | Tanthrix: | I see |
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| [07:54:16] | juski: | ooyeah. inkscape is the thing to draw themes in |
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| [07:59:57] | juski: | wooo and inkscape plays nicely on a dual desktop. that should speed things up no end. in your face PSP ! |
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| [08:01:28] | juski: | good job I don't intend to use any photos in the next theme though |
| [08:02:35] | wilco: | Where does mythbackend get its mysql connection info? I've updated ~mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt but it's still looking for a database on localhost |
| [08:04:29] | wilco: | Ah, nm. My mythbackend is running as root, so I needed to copy the mysql.txt to /root/.mythtv |
| [08:06:18] | Speedy2: | Is there any particular ntp package to use on Linux? Recordings are a bit off in time. |
| [08:06:22] | Speedy2: | (Gentoo) |
| [08:07:56] | hads: | openntpd is nice, pretty much zero config |
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| [08:11:22] | Speedy2: | hads: But it doesn't account for clock drift — have you found that to be a problem? |
| [08:12:29] | hads: | Sorry? That's exactly what NTP does. |
| [08:13:57] | Speedy2: | From the Gentoo config (not saying it's the gospel): OpenNTPD does not (as of openntpd-3.7_p1) adjust the rate of the clock to cater for drift, so ntp is probably a better solution. |
| [08:14:33] | hads: | No idea. It works for me. |
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| [08:46:09] | murray: | Hi. Got a fully working myth setup, except I cannot get the EPG to populate via the EIT data on DVB-T. With "-v all" in mythbackend log, it shows it's scanning the multiplex's for EIT data, but it only takes 0.001 seconds before the next log line about purging data ... and nada shows up in the EPG/db tables. |
| [08:46:36] | murray: | ideas? I'm flat out of them |
| [08:47:02] | robbins876: | mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.20/database/mc.sql when i run that I get an error saying that there is no such file or directory |
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| [08:48:24] | murray: | cd /usr ; cd share ; cd doc ; cd mythtv-0.20 ; cd database |
| [08:48:34] | murray: | robbins876 : how far do you get with the above? |
| [08:49:01] | robbins876: | cd: mythtv-0.20 no such file or directory |
| [08:49:07] | robbins876: | cd: database: No such file or director |
| [08:49:19] | robbins876: | i bet it's just the wrong version num |
| [08:49:34] | murray: | cd /usr/share/doc ; ls -ld myth* |
| [08:49:46] | Dagmar: | How freaking about `find /usr -name mv.sql` |
| [08:49:56] | Dagmar: | er `find /usr -name mc.sql` |
| [08:50:16] | Dagmar: | How the hell can people see "No such file or directory" and be confused by it |
| [08:50:19] | robbins876: | murray, i was missing a .1 |
| [08:50:21] | robbins876: | now it works |
| [08:50:26] | murray: | or 'cd /usr ; du -a . | grep mc.sql' longer, but faster |
| [08:51:04] | Dagmar: | You sure about that? |
| [08:52:45] | murray: | not enough to bet a kidney on, but my experience tends in that direction |
| [08:53:03] | Dagmar: | You'd be entirely wrong |
| [08:53:26] | Dagmar: | On general principle a single command is going to run faster than anything involving du |
| [08:55:09] | murray: | ok. sorry. |
| [08:57:48] | Dagmar: | http://pastebin.ca/627372 |
| [08:59:30] | murray: | yeah, did something similar. I defer to your rightness :) My bad. |
| [09:03:01] | juski: | murray: my guess is that you imported a channels.conf file. that misses some info mythbackend needs to crawl the EIT info |
| [09:03:27] | juski: | that's since been fixed, so if you use a newer version of -fixes you'llnbe ok |
| [09:04:19] | juski: | importing a channels.conf file misses off networkid & something else from the dtv_multiplex table |
| [09:04:48] | juski: | you can use dvbsnoop to get that info then put it into the table yourself but I can't remember exactly how |
| [09:05:49] | murray: | juski : so if I use channels.conf (optionally with a re-scan of existing transport), I get all the right channels, entirely watchable, but no EPG. If I purge the mythtv files, and re-install fresh after dropping the db, and use the "Full Scan", it tends to crash a lot with seg faults. However, it did eventually complete – with a full set of channels, that it cannot then tune/lock onto, so entirely UN-watchable ... and |
| [09:06:47] | juski: | murray: it'd help everybody long term if you got backtraces for those segfaults |
| [09:07:05] | murray: | I'd be delighted, although I'm using the ubuntu packages, not the svn head |
| [09:07:22] | murray: | thus I assumed I would just be met with "use svn head" ;) |
| [09:07:25] | juski: | you could still build -fixes from source quite easily |
| [09:07:34] | juski: | you never know – the bug might already be fixed |
| [09:07:54] | juski: | and then either way you'd be using a newer version & still get working EIT after importing a channels.conf |
| [09:08:01] | hads: | The ubuntu packages are starting to get a bit old too. |
| [09:08:05] | murray: | I want to get around to compiling from source, but darn it, it used to work, and it does all work, except the EPG/EIT stuff |
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| [09:08:18] | juski: | a bit? that's understating it |
| [09:08:42] | juski: | this isn't for dvb-c in the UK is it? |
| [09:09:08] | murray: | I started to compile it last night, but it crashed half way through the compile. I think it was complaining about a missing lXv (although the three letters in question could be different, I'm going on memory) |
| [09:09:23] | murray: | dvb-t |
| [09:09:26] | murray: | freeview, uk |
| [09:09:32] | hads: | apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| [09:09:32] | juski: | sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv mythplugins should take care of most dependencies ;) |
| [09:09:47] | murray: | ahh, handy. will try that |
| [09:09:49] | murray: | thanks |
| [09:10:36] | juski: | it'll probably help you later if you install ccache now too |
| [09:10:43] | juski: | save loads of time on future compiles |
| [09:11:18] | juski: | one thing though – back up the database before installing the new version |
| [09:11:31] | juski: | oh and make sure to uninstall the packages before make install too |
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| [09:11:58] | hads: | And don't forget that your install will move to /usr/local |
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| [09:12:35] | murray: | ta. db isn't fresh anyway, so I've already wiped it in an attempt to get things working again. |
| [09:12:42] | juski: | unless you run ./configure with --prefix=/usr ;) |
| [09:13:01] | robbins876: | Alright, I think I may have missed some stuff |
| [09:13:05] | robbins876: | anyone familiar with lirc? |
| [09:13:06] | murray: | (moved across the city, and to a new set of frequencies, which caused all the problems) |
| [09:13:09] | robbins876: | did those messages post? |
| [09:13:20] | hads: | `chmod -R 775 /usr/local && chown -R :admin /usr/local` will let you install as a user in the admin group, so no root nessecary. |
| [09:14:09] | robbins876: | /usr/bin/irw returns "connect: No such file or directory" |
| [09:14:14] | robbins876: | how do i fix that? |
| [09:14:33] | murray: | many thanks for that juski and hads. Will go do my homework :) Much appreciated |
| [09:14:56] | hads: | Actually that groups would be staff traditionally I think |
| [09:15:07] | robbins876: | I hate lirc problems. |
| [09:16:32] | tafkaz: | i get 'Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times' in /tmp/mythwelcome.log |
| [09:16:32] | tafkaz: | is this a significant problem? |
| [09:17:27] | juski: | not unless you're seeing video problems |
| [09:17:51] | tafkaz: | well i am not in front of the tv right now, i guess not |
| [09:18:18] | tafkaz: | the message appears every 2 secs |
| [09:19:01] | juski: | somebody must be watching tv then |
| [09:19:26] | tafkaz: | thats all it means ? |
| [09:20:02] | juski: | it means that a buffer is timing out, possibly due to a low performing frontend |
| [09:20:17] | juski: | but if your video is nice & smooth it's nothing to worry about |
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| [09:21:29] | tafkaz: | ok...but why is the frontend possibly running so slow. my system is pretty fast with an AMD x2 3800 and a 1GB Ram |
| [09:21:46] | tafkaz: | i guess some configuration has still to be done ? |
| [09:22:00] | robbins876_: | Is anyone answering my questions? My connection keeps doing weird things |
| [09:22:18] | juski: | robbins876_: irw not working means lircd isn't running |
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| [09:22:40] | robbins876_: | juski, i believe it is |
| [09:22:46] | robbins876_: | but, how do i check that out? |
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| [09:22:52] | robbins876_: | i mean, i've stopped and started it |
| [09:23:20] | juski: | robbins876_: ps -ef | grep lirc :) |
| [09:23:41] | robbins876_: | root 4746 2178 0 03:24 pts/1 00:00:00 grep lirc |
| [09:23:55] | hads: | So no |
| [09:24:13] | robbins876_: | that means it's not running? |
| [09:24:37] | juski: | yes |
| [09:24:51] | tafkaz: | thanx for now |
| [09:24:58] | juski: | tafkaz: if you have an ATI card, go buy a nvidia one |
| [09:25:08] | robbins876_: | alright, so i do service lircd start |
| [09:25:10] | robbins876_: | correct? |
| [09:25:11] | juski: | if you use the nv driver for nvidia, use 'nvidia' instead |
| [09:25:23] | juski: | robbins876_: depends on what distro you use |
| [09:25:27] | robbins876_: | fedora |
| [09:25:39] | juski: | dunno/care |
| [09:25:47] | robbins876_: | fair enough |
| [09:25:47] | tafkaz: | i have an nvidia card with the right driver ! |
| [09:25:57] | juski: | see if there's a log entry for lircd, robbins876_ |
| [09:26:08] | juski: | find out why it's not staying running |
| [09:26:15] | robbins876_: | once again, i don't know how to do that |
| [09:26:22] | robbins876_: | i'm a linux novice |
| [09:26:33] | tafkaz: | which distro robbins876_ ? |
| [09:26:34] | juski: | well, see where the logs live |
| [09:26:40] | juski: | ls /var/log for starters |
| [09:26:42] | hads: | A Linux channel or LUG may be best |
| [09:27:02] | tafkaz: | on fedora do '/etc/init.d/lircd status' as root |
| [09:27:24] | robbins876_: | tafkaz, posts nothing |
| [09:27:46] | tafkaz: | aha.... |
| [09:27:46] | tafkaz: | try /etc/init.d/lircd stop |
| [09:28:00] | robbins876_: | also posts nothing |
| [09:28:01] | juski: | and it's no use claiming to be a newbie – we were all noobs once |
| [09:28:39] | tafkaz: | i guess you dont have lirc installed ? |
| [09:28:42] | robbins876_: | juski, by the way, grayhem looks good, i like the update |
| [09:28:48] | tafkaz: | try rpm -qa | grep lirc |
| [09:29:16] | robbins876_: | tafkaz, returns 4 lines, looks like it's installed |
| [09:29:47] | juski: | robbins876_: cheers. wit til you see the next one |
| [09:29:50] | juski: | *wait, even |
| [09:30:09] | tafkaz: | post those lines into some http://pastebin.com/ |
| [09:30:10] | juski: | there'll be no more theme revamps though. only maintenance from now on |
| [09:30:17] | robbins876_: | it feels like it runs a little bit slow, but that could be my imagination |
| [09:31:14] | robbins876_: | http://pastebin.com/m115950bd |
| [09:31:40] | tafkaz: | looks good |
| [09:32:06] | tafkaz: | do a ls /etc/init.d/lirc* |
| [09:32:25] | juski: | my themes might seem a little bit slower than the 'official' themes on some systems due to them using bigger graphics |
| [09:32:44] | robbins876_: | tafkaz, /etc/init.d/lircd |
| [09:32:46] | juski: | but on my 800mhz test box they fly as much as any other |
| [09:33:07] | juski: | tafkaz: the problem is that lircd isn't staying running, not that it won't run |
| [09:33:25] | tafkaz: | allright...then |
| [09:33:42] | juski: | you can run lircd from a shell, just to test it |
| [09:33:50] | tafkaz: | tail -f /var/log/messages | grep lirc |
| [09:33:51] | juski: | lircd --help for info on that IIRC |
| [09:33:59] | anykey_: | you need to run lircd -n ;) |
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| [09:35:24] | robbins876_: | anykey_, it says that lircd process with pid 4959 is already running |
| [09:35:42] | robbins876_: | so i killed it |
| [09:36:06] | robbins876_: | then it says could not open config file '/etc/lircd.conf' |
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| [09:36:21] | anykey_: | robbins876_: thats probably the problem then |
| [09:36:22] | juski: | robbins876_: bingo! |
| [09:36:25] | tafkaz: | tail -f /var/log/messages | grep lirc in one terminal and /etc/init.d/lirc(d) restart in another one |
| [09:36:37] | tafkaz: | jup.....bingo |
| [09:36:48] | robbins876_: | so what do i need to do to get that config file? |
| [09:36:52] | tafkaz: | u dont have a config yet ! |
| [09:37:06] | tafkaz: | depends on the remote control |
| [09:37:09] | juski: | how could lirc have ever worked? |
| [09:37:15] | robbins876_: | http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb |
| [09:37:22] | robbins876_: | is that what i need? i think i got that thing before |
| [09:37:25] | tafkaz: | some remotes work a little without any lirc |
| [09:38:03] | robbins876_: | should i just save that file to /etc/lircd.conf? |
| [09:39:03] | tafkaz: | you can try....then restart the service |
| [09:40:42] | robbins876_: | alright, when i do /usr/bin/irw and push buttons on the remote i still get no output |
| [09:40:58] | juski: | you get no output, but it's not just falling back to the prompt? |
| [09:41:06] | robbins876_: | no, it falls back to the prompt |
| [09:41:34] | juski: | anyway since when did this channel become a surrogate #lirc ? ;) |
| [09:41:52] | Dagmar: | When someone decided to hand-hold |
| [09:41:54] | robbins876_: | my appologies |
| [09:41:59] | juski: | we're always clearing up after them |
| [09:42:17] | tafkaz: | you need a hardware.conf too ! |
| [09:42:47] | robbins876_: | where do i get/place that? |
| [09:42:53] | tafkaz: | in /etirc |
| [09:43:05] | tafkaz: | in etc irc |
| [09:43:12] | juski: | hardware.conf describes the .. hardware :) |
| [09:43:25] | juski: | usually lives in /etc/lirc/ |
| [09:43:38] | Dagmar: | ...and as an added bonus, isn't an actual filename. |
| [09:43:43] | tafkaz: | but your problem could be, that after eych reboot the dev changes |
| [09:44:20] | robbins876_: | apparently /etc/lirc isn't a directory |
| [09:44:24] | robbins876_: | this thing is so fubar |
| [09:44:27] | tafkaz: | dagmar: it isnt ? |
| [09:45:49] | tafkaz: | i think it is ... |
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| [09:50:42] | robbins876_: | anyone have any idea why i dont' have a hardware.conf? |
| [09:51:00] | juski: | errr because you've not put one there? |
| [09:51:09] | robbins876_: | i don't even have /etc/lirc |
| [09:51:11] | robbins876_: | though |
| [09:51:33] | juski: | since you're on fedora it's time you mosied over to jaord wilson's site |
| [09:51:39] | juski: | *jarod, even |
| [09:51:46] | robbins876_: | i'm there, and this part of the tutorial is rahter skimpy |
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| [09:52:10] | tafkaz: | ok wait..... |
| [09:52:10] | tafkaz: | you dont have /etlirc ??? |
| [09:52:14] | juski: | it will be, in that it doesn't say "hey robbins876_ , what you need to do is.." ;) |
| [09:52:20] | tafkaz: | ahhhh..../etc/irc i mean |
| [09:52:40] | juski: | no tafkaz what you mean is /etc/lirc |
| [09:52:51] | tafkaz: | lol....yes ! |
| [09:53:06] | tafkaz: | i love autocompletion in bash |
| [09:53:07] | robbins876_: | juski, I would invite ou to look at the tutorial and see how lacking this part of it is |
| [09:53:16] | tafkaz: | stop arguing ! |
| [09:53:36] | tafkaz: | you will have to remove all those lirc rpms |
| [09:53:43] | tafkaz: | and reinstall just lirc ! |
| [09:53:58] | tafkaz: | somethings wrong with the installation |
| [09:54:19] | juski: | packaging stuff with an almost infinite combination of options is futile anyway IMHO |
| [09:54:26] | tafkaz: | i dont think fedora uses another dir for lirc |
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| [09:54:55] | robbins876_: | tafkaz, you mean uninstall the 4 things from the pastebin i posted? |
| [09:55:09] | tafkaz: | yup |
| [09:55:15] | tafkaz: | rpm -e packagenames |
| [10:01:49] | robbins876_: | tafkaz, then what? usr/bin/irw still just goes to new line |
| [10:02:34] | juski: | robbins876_: after uninstalling those rpms, then you have to build lirc. muhahahaha |
| [10:02:55] | robbins876_: | i would love to do that, i've had to do that before and that's how i got it working i think |
| [10:03:01] | robbins876_: | but i can't find the website where i did it |
| [10:03:21] | vfrex: | you should have gone with ubuntu :p |
| [10:03:24] | robbins876_: | i thought it was somethig on the lirc webiste that was along the lines of ... "install lirc from SVN" or something |
| [10:04:51] | robbins876_: | or CVS or something |
| [10:05:14] | vfrex: | guys, is there a preferred linux app for testing out your tv tuner? |
| [10:05:36] | juski: | vfrex: depends what kind of tuner it is. for analogue/v4l, tvtime or xawtv |
| [10:05:56] | tafkaz: | ok robin |
| [10:06:06] | tafkaz: | now do yum install lirc |
| [10:06:08] | juski: | note that hauppauge pvr cards won't work in tvtime or xawtv |
| [10:06:17] | vfrex: | damn |
| [10:06:34] | juski: | vfrex: see www.ivtvdriver.org on how to test the card then |
| [10:06:54] | tafkaz: | robbins876_: got me ? |
| [10:08:42] | robbins876_: | yeah, but it didn't work |
| [10:08:43] | robbins876_: | again |
| [10:08:51] | robbins876_: | i'm trying this CVS thing |
| [10:08:55] | robbins876_: | http://www.lirc.org/cvs.html |
| [10:09:17] | tafkaz: | no wait... |
| [10:09:26] | tafkaz: | what the hack are you doing ? |
| [10:09:30] | juski: | jees without proper config files it's NEVER gonna work |
| [10:09:39] | tafkaz: | you will not need the CVS version !!! |
| [10:09:42] | juski: | blunder blunder blunder along! |
| [10:09:58] | robbins876_: | so i should stop this then? |
| [10:09:59] | tafkaz: | just install an easy rpm package !!! |
| [10:10:06] | tafkaz: | YES !!!!!! |
| [10:10:12] | robbins876_: | anduin had me do this last time he helped me |
| [10:10:12] | tafkaz: | REPEAT YES !!!!! |
| [10:10:32] | juski: | so you didn't learn anything from that? |
| [10:10:35] | tafkaz: | it is normally not necessary |
| [10:10:40] | robbins876_: | it was like 9 months ago |
| [10:10:46] | tafkaz: | uh my .... |
| [10:11:02] | tafkaz: | listen robbins876_: i really want to help yu..... |
| [10:11:03] | juski: | so why should anybody bother to help if the install isn't gonna last long and you don't make notes? |
| [10:11:21] | robbins876_: | i had notes but, i just update to FC7 and lost those chats |
| [10:11:23] | tafkaz: | but please just follow my posts ok ? |
| [10:11:34] | robbins876_: | tafkaz, deal |
| [10:11:37] | juski: | oh ffs |
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| [10:11:41] | tafkaz: | ok |
| [10:11:44] | tafkaz: | ;-) |
| [10:11:48] | robbins876_: | I have done what you said, I removed the files using rpm -e |
| [10:11:52] | robbins876_: | then i did yum install lirc |
| [10:11:55] | robbins876_: | worked fine |
| [10:11:58] | robbins876_: | where to next? |
| [10:12:01] | juski: | updating your distro breaks stuff!!!!!!! |
| [10:12:06] | tafkaz: | ok |
| [10:12:19] | juski: | deserve everything you get IMHO |
| [10:12:29] | tafkaz: | you already installed lirc with yum install lirc |
| [10:12:42] | tafkaz: | it downloaded and installed something |
| [10:12:47] | tafkaz: | you are sure ? |
| [10:12:49] | robbins876_: | yes |
| [10:12:55] | tafkaz: | goooooood |
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| [10:13:08] | tafkaz: | now go see if there is /etc/lirc now |
| [10:13:14] | juski: | robbins876_: do yourself a favour & make notes this time |
| [10:13:16] | tafkaz: | and tell me whats in it |
| [10:13:47] | tafkaz: | thanx juski....i was going to say that too ! ;-) |
| [10:14:01] | robbins876_: | still no such file or directory |
| [10:14:10] | tafkaz: | heh...thats odd |
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| [10:14:59] | robbins876_: | truly |
| [10:15:31] | tafkaz: | oh wait.... do you have lircd.conf in /etc ? |
| [10:15:36] | robbins876_: | yes |
| [10:15:59] | tafkaz: | paste the ingredients to some pastebin |
| [10:16:28] | robbins876_: | http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb |
| [10:16:37] | robbins876_: | that's exactly what i pasted into lircd.conf |
| [10:18:17] | tafkaz: | do you have some /etc/hardware* |
| [10:18:31] | robbins876_: | nope |
| [10:19:15] | ** juski points out it could be handy to load the hardware driver module(s) at some point ** | |
| [10:19:25] | robbins876_: | modprobe.conf? |
| [10:19:55] | tafkaz: | no |
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| [10:20:13] | juski: | the usb receiver thing need a driver to be loaded. maybe something like lirc_mceusb |
| [10:20:23] | tafkaz: | do this as root anyway /sbin/chkconfig lircd on |
| [10:20:27] | robbins876_: | for sure, that's something that strikes a memory |
| [10:21:14] | robbins876_: | /sbin/chkconfig lircd on sends me back to a new line |
| [10:21:47] | tafkaz: | hm....normally there should be a hardware.conf to tell the system which hardware is used |
| [10:22:20] | robbins876_: | this is a fresh install of fedora 7 |
| [10:22:51] | juski: | if the old install was worky, why install a new distro? |
| [10:23:08] | robbins876_: | a lot of things were not working well |
| [10:23:12] | juski: | doesn't make any sense to me. my backend is still on ubunut edgy |
| [10:23:18] | robbins876_: | mainly network issues |
| [10:23:52] | juski: | yeah but for stuff like that surely you'd only update the kernel, not switch to a new distro |
| [10:23:55] | vfrex: | ok, it seems like I am receiving a good signal and can tune to channels using ivtv-utils |
| [10:24:17] | juski: | vfrex: now you're good to go with mythtv. chow down on the docs :) |
| [10:24:38] | vfrex: | jusk, i guess i went in the wrong order. did mythtv and it doesn't go :( |
| [10:25:07] | juski: | if you follow the right docs & digest when you read & understand it you can't go wrong |
| [10:25:12] | tafkaz: | well....i cannot help you here robbins876_...sorry |
| [10:25:36] | robbins876_: | alright, thanks man |
| [10:25:39] | vfrex: | jusk, i agree. there is a huge amount of good docs out there. i'm 99% of the way setup |
| [10:25:49] | tafkaz: | cat /proc/bus/input/devices |
| [10:25:59] | tafkaz: | give me the output |
| [10:26:13] | juski: | vfrex: with hauppauge tuner cards the important thing to remember is to make sure you select the right kind of capture card in mythtv-setup |
| [10:26:18] | robbins876_: | tafkaz, me? |
| [10:26:28] | tafkaz: | yup |
| [10:26:48] | vfrex: | jusk, the weird thing is, I had it setup to tune pretty well in mythtv |
| [10:26:49] | robbins876_: | http://pastebin.ca/627472 |
| [10:27:06] | vfrex: | but I ended up reinstalling the OS to help get LIRC working |
| [10:27:33] | vfrex: | i think i'll try deleting hte card and adding it back |
| [10:27:54] | tafkaz: | robbins876_: well there is no remote runnig |
| [10:28:11] | juski: | ffs guys. reinstalling the OS to get lirc working? what fecking planet are you living on?! |
| [10:28:14] | tafkaz: | you will have to find out which module has to be loaded |
| [10:28:24] | juski: | there's no point trying to help some people |
| [10:28:36] | robbins876_: | I believe it's lirc_mceusb or something like that |
| [10:28:39] | vfrex: | lol, easy there man. on a fresh install, why not? |
| [10:28:40] | robbins876_: | i remember that from my old setup |
| [10:28:55] | tafkaz: | well...dont remember ...find out !!! |
| [10:29:06] | tafkaz: | you know what the remote is ! |
| [10:29:08] | robbins876_: | yes |
| [10:29:12] | robbins876_: | i know that's the moduel |
| [10:29:14] | tafkaz: | google lirc remotename fedora |
| [10:29:31] | tafkaz: | and then modprobe modulename |
| [10:29:37] | juski: | modprobe -l | grep lirc will list your lirc modules |
| [10:29:56] | juski: | make a note of that too |
| [10:30:00] | tafkaz: | you can try with modprobe lirc_mceusb but only if it listed |
| [10:30:18] | tafkaz: | otherwise you will have to install it ! |
| [10:30:35] | tafkaz: | maybe yum search mceusb |
| [10:31:28] | juski: | there's a lot to be said for trying mythdora or knoppmyth if you're new/don't want to learn/just want a mythtv box |
| [10:32:06] | robbins876_: | juski, i just can't get lirc working, and clearly, it seems as though this is an atypical problem, man...chill out |
| [10:32:45] | juski: | I AM chilled out. I'm just saying |
| [10:32:46] | tafkaz: | juski: my box just freezed...could i show you the output to look it up ? |
| [10:32:57] | tafkaz: | that would be great... |
| [10:33:09] | juski: | what output? |
| [10:33:36] | tafkaz: | mytwelcome.log |
| [10:33:49] | juski: | nah |
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| [10:34:04] | tafkaz: | ups... |
| [10:34:35] | tafkaz: | did i say something wrong ? |
| [10:34:46] | tafkaz: | i thought i asked politely...:-) |
| [10:34:59] | vfrex: | its irc, you can't do anything right |
| [10:35:09] | tafkaz: | LOL yeah right! |
| [10:37:03] | robbins876_: | tafkaz, i did modprobe lirc_mceusb and it looks like it worked, now what? |
| [10:37:13] | tafkaz: | cool |
| [10:37:27] | tafkaz: | irw and see if something happens |
| [10:37:54] | robbins876_: | thank you jesus! |
| [10:37:59] | robbins876_: | i got some output |
| [10:38:13] | robbins876_: | i found this guide and followed it |
| [10:38:15] | robbins876_: | http://www.netreveal.com/ddalton/2006/04/htpc . . . e_4_o_1.html |
| [10:38:31] | tafkaz: | ok..... |
| [10:38:54] | robbins876_: | and that seemed to help getthing the modprobe thing up |
| [10:39:05] | robbins876_: | i couldn't have done it without you, man. |
| [10:39:10] | robbins876_: | we're sisters now. |
| [10:39:12] | robbins876_: | for life. |
| [10:39:24] | tafkaz: | you need to put the modprobe line to some boot.local or maybe you just put the module into /etc/modules.conf |
| [10:39:38] | tafkaz: | otherwise you will always have to do it by hand |
| [10:39:39] | robbins876_: | to make it load on boot, correct? |
| [10:39:46] | tafkaz: | gooooood boy |
| [10:40:11] | robbins876_: | neither of those files appear to be the right ones, however |
| [10:40:27] | tafkaz: | welll.... should though |
| [10:40:29] | tafkaz: | moment |
| [10:40:31] | robbins876_: | k |
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| [10:40:48] | juski: | whew. that was a close class |
| [10:40:54] | juski: | wtf? close call |
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| [10:41:21] | vfrex: | hmm? |
| [10:41:33] | robbins876_: | who puts a close window button in the bottom right had corner of an app? |
| [10:41:45] | juski: | a retard? |
| [10:41:50] | robbins876_: | i beleive so |
| [10:42:01] | tafkaz: | ther right ones /etc/modules.conf |
| [10:42:14] | robbins876_: | there's nothing in that file, is that cool? |
| [10:42:46] | tafkaz: | if anyone wants to help....(i would really want to know, what happened and know what i must do to make it work again ) |
| [10:43:00] | tafkaz: | http://pastebin.com/d5cfefbef |
| [10:43:11] | tafkaz: | robbins876_ yeah ok... |
| [10:43:18] | robbins876_: | what do i add in there? |
| [10:43:28] | tafkaz: | just put in the modulename there in the last line |
| [10:43:43] | robbins876_: | the last line will be the first line. |
| [10:43:47] | tafkaz: | without modprobe |
| [10:43:54] | juski: | wow. did pastebin.com get a new bit of wet string or something? |
| [10:44:36] | juski: | tafkaz: for some reason, mythbackend crashed. maybe the signal vanished |
| [10:44:56] | juski: | restart the backend |
| [10:45:18] | robbins876_: | tafkaz, i'm just putting lirc_mceusb in that file, correct? |
| [10:45:20] | tafkaz: | yes...but isnt that strange ? |
| [10:45:21] | robbins876_: | and that's ALL that's in there |
| [10:45:33] | tafkaz: | ok robin |
| [10:45:52] | robbins876_: | that was mostly a question, rather than a statement |
| [10:45:59] | robbins876_: | but i'll try a reboot and see what happens |
| [10:46:10] | juski: | tafkaz: not strange at all. if your dvb signal is guff the backend has been known to crash |
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| [10:46:28] | tafkaz: | hm ok.....only seems to happen atone channel (radio) |
| [10:46:46] | juski: | tafkaz: so er.. don't use that channel |
| [10:47:05] | tafkaz: | lol....i will tell her ! |
| [10:47:07] | juski: | delete or hide it |
| [10:47:27] | tafkaz: | 2007-07–20 12:46:46.442 Event socket closed. No connection to the backend. |
| [10:47:33] | juski: | you let her watch tv while you're not at home? why isn't she chained up in the kitchen? |
| [10:47:54] | tafkaz: | you craze.....she wouldnt let me....its me thats chained to work ! |
| [10:48:06] | juski: | that's just weird |
| [10:48:08] | Dagmar: | More beatings |
| [10:48:13] | tafkaz: | hehe |
| [10:48:22] | juski: | never mind letting you. try chloroform damnit |
| [10:48:29] | tafkaz: | so...restarted the backend.... |
| [10:48:40] | tafkaz: | and got the above line |
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| [10:49:21] | tafkaz: | do i really have to restart mythfrontend too ? |
| [10:49:27] | juski: | at least quite out of livetv |
| [10:49:34] | juski: | *quit |
| [10:49:41] | robbins876: | tafkaz, working beautifully |
| [10:49:50] | tafkaz: | grrrrreat ! |
| [10:50:07] | robbins876: | i agree |
| [10:50:46] | juski: | damnit I wish I'd never installed the flash player on my linux machine |
| [10:51:03] | vfrex: | why? |
| [10:51:15] | vfrex: | silverlight just that much better? |
| [10:51:35] | juski: | because on a website I visit there's a stupid bunch of flash ads that take up half the page & the 'close' button isn't appearing |
| [10:51:59] | vfrex: | lol |
| [10:52:03] | juski: | you should always have to opt to expand the advert not the other way aropund. evil bastards |
| [10:52:17] | vfrex: | i used flashblock for a while on firefox |
| [10:52:35] | vfrex: | it certainly had its upside |
| [10:52:51] | juski: | I'll just uninstall it |
| [10:54:06] | robbins876: | juski, you should try re-installing your OS |
| [10:54:29] | vfrex: | >_< |
| [10:54:45] | robbins876: | i have to be to work in 4 hours |
| [10:54:46] | robbins876: | boo |
| [10:54:52] | robbins876: | alright, thanks again tafkaz |
| [10:56:09] | vfrex: | man, watching datadirect download is like watching the grass grow |
| [10:57:26] | Dagmar: | So stop watching it |
| [10:59:10] | vfrex: | no worries, it finished! bad news is, i still can't seem to tune to channels |
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| [11:29:02] | TUplink_: | does any one think somthing will be coming so that we can use the mythfrontend on Xbox360 with out modifying the 360 like MCE? |
| [11:29:26] | TUplink_: | juski... its in the rite window now |
| [11:30:04] | juski: | there's Upnp .. so er.. probably that |
| [11:30:31] | TUplink_: | ohwell... may just have to linux my 360 :P |
| [11:30:47] | juski: | only if the 360 isn't crippled to only play windows media shite |
| [11:31:07] | juski: | and FWIW, it's pretty unlikely linux will ever run on a 360 |
| [11:31:46] | TUplink_: | well..... couldnt you in thery LIE to 360 and make it think mythbackend is MCEe |
| [11:32:09] | juski: | well yeah if you wanna reverse engineer their protocol & risk getting yo ass sued to bits |
| [11:32:21] | TUplink_: | hehe... |
| [11:32:27] | TUplink_: | funk MS |
| [11:32:59] | juski: | ok. pay a dev to do it, then pay for a lawyer when the crap hits the whirly thing |
| [11:33:08] | juski: | next! |
| [11:33:51] | TUplink_: | didnt the ms code get leaked a year or so ago.... |
| [11:34:06] | juski: | who GAF ? |
| [11:34:07] | TUplink_: | wonder if you can still get it |
| [11:34:44] | juski: | anyway from what I know of the 360 you'd need to turn up the tv sound pretty loud to use it as a frontend |
| [11:35:19] | TUplink_: | so the frontedn can run frontend? |
| [11:35:30] | TUplink_: | oops |
| [11:35:33] | TUplink_: | on the 360 |
| [11:35:55] | juski: | what? |
| [11:35:58] | TUplink_: | n/m |
| [11:36:15] | juski: | I just implied the 360 is a noisy beast, not that mythfrontend will run on it |
| [11:36:15] | tafkaz: | now thats a new one....RingBuf(/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/29106_20070720132606.mpg) Error: Waited 16 seconds for data, aborting. |
| [11:36:17] | TUplink_: | im gunna just go get an origianl xbox.... and make it a frontend |
| [11:36:29] | tafkaz: | is this improtant ? |
| [11:36:36] | juski: | TUplink_: linux on the xbox is s l o w & clunky |
| [11:36:44] | TUplink_: | um.... |
| [11:36:53] | juski: | tafkaz: your machine is very poorly |
| [11:36:55] | TUplink_: | its only 733mhz i wonder why |
| [11:36:59] | tafkaz: | strange |
| [11:37:27] | juski: | TUplink_: it's not the cpu speed to blame. it's the 32MB of RAM left over by the GPU |
| [11:37:30] | tafkaz: | why that ? |
| [11:38:01] | TUplink_: | oh... shared video memory STUPID microsoft |
| [11:38:28] | tafkaz: | that cant be.....it must be some configuration issue |
| [11:38:34] | juski: | TUplink_: it's more than enough for a console |
| [11:38:57] | tafkaz: | amd x2 3800 with 1 gb Ram rememebr ? |
| [11:39:00] | TUplink_: | um...... if you say so |
| [11:39:30] | TUplink_: | didnt you use to be able to buy USB RAM to help out? |
| [11:40:04] | ** Dagmar begins laughing uncontrollably ** | |
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| [11:47:15] | vfrex: | usb ram? |
| [11:48:14] | ** Dagmar chuckles some more. ** | |
| [11:49:13] | vfrex: | and you guys thought i was slow :( |
| [11:52:08] | juski: | whee 2.5 hours & I can go home to do some more themework :) |
| [11:55:44] | vfrex: | i'm hoping my boss doesn'tshow up |
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| [12:09:45] | paranoid_: | you can solder more ram into some revisions of the original xbox |
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| [12:12:51] | juski: | you have to remove the old ram & fit new chips in the majority of cases though |
| [12:13:18] | paranoid_: | on mine you just flip the motherboard over and there is space for additional pads :) |
| [12:13:46] | juski: | anyway maybe one day upnp will work well enough to be able to use anything that has upnp as a frontend |
| [12:14:26] | paranoid_: | heh :) |
| [12:14:50] | juski: | hardware donations would help that ;) |
| [12:15:15] | juski: | though from what I've seen of the links of the dlink DSM320 or whatever, their UIs suck! |
| [12:15:31] | paranoid_: | I've got ten quid to last me the rest of the month, I feel I should be on the reciving end of charity rather than on the giving end :P |
| [12:15:55] | juski: | I'm now overdrawn, thanks to LRL :(( |
| [12:16:02] | paranoid_: | LRL ? |
| [12:16:26] | juski: | LUGRadiolive |
| [12:16:30] | paranoid_: | ah |
| [12:16:49] | juski: | wasteoffrickingtime-live |
| [12:17:04] | paranoid_: | heh |
| [12:17:10] | paranoid_: | not something I've ever listened to :X |
| [12:17:28] | juski: | my advice would be to leave it that way |
| [12:17:45] | paranoid_: | so how has it caused you to be overdrawn? |
| [12:18:00] | juski: | travel costs, hotel fees, food, drink... |
| [12:18:04] | paranoid_: | ah. |
| [12:18:06] | AndyCap: | i.e. live |
| [12:18:35] | paranoid_: | my lack of cash is due to two weeks spent learning how to surf |
| [12:18:36] | juski: | I really would not have minded if we'd actually *reached* people there |
| [12:19:23] | juski: | give surf dude bleach for his hair.. job done ? |
| [12:19:33] | paranoid_: | heh |
| [12:19:41] | paranoid_: | the guy that taught me to surf had dark hair actually |
| [12:19:58] | juski: | whoah.. imposter dude! |
| [12:20:26] | paranoid_: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPw5ozVFCfQ |
| [12:20:31] | paranoid_: | for those with flash enabled web browsers |
| [12:21:20] | juski: | I'll look later on |
| [12:21:35] | paranoid_: | it's not that interesting. |
| [12:21:36] | juski: | video isn't too hot over vnc |
| [12:21:52] | juski: | oh I'll be plenty bored later. inlaws are coming |
| [12:22:17] | paranoid_: | I'm not married, it saves that whole issue. |
| [12:22:34] | paranoid_: | thankfully, I get on quite well with my girlfriends mother |
| [12:22:48] | paranoid_: | although she wasn't so keen on me when I first met my girlfriend heh |
| [12:23:01] | juski: | it's not that we don't get on – far from it. other than the fact we're all in the human race we have nothing in common really |
| [12:24:37] | paranoid_: | well, your wife would be a common point |
| [12:25:07] | paranoid_: | although I suppose in this day and age I should say partner, less the government have me arrested under some politically correct agenda |
| [12:25:33] | juski: | partner? I'm not gay |
| [12:25:46] | paranoid_: | I assumed you weren't, which is why I first went with wife ;) |
| [12:26:04] | juski: | you've been with my wife?! I'll be having words with her later |
| [12:26:12] | paranoid_: | buwahaha. |
| [12:27:40] | paranoid_: | I accidently killed the apache config on this server... I wonder if anyone will notice |
| [12:29:09] | paranoid_: | ah well, lunch hour is up, back later |
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| [12:40:45] | juski: | bit OT for a change.. anybody know of a good mp3 editor for linux ? I mean one that doesn't require re-encoding? Just for trimming really |
| [12:44:35] | SiD3WiNDR: | the only sound app thingy I know for linux is audacity, but I don't know if that does it on the fly |
| [12:45:21] | juski: | not bothered about on the fly – I just want to cut to the nearest frame & not have to re-encode |
| [12:45:24] | MilkBoy: | audacity can't trim losslessly iirc |
| [12:45:55] | juski: | might have to make an app! |
| [12:49:53] | juski: | hmm there's poc-streamer. have to give that a go |
| [12:50:05] | AndyCap: | make one that can cut .ts as well when you're at it. :P |
| [12:52:12] | juski: | ok. only one hundre dollar |
| [12:54:28] | AndyCap: | you'll make a cutter that won't need remultiplexing for 100 us dollar? :> |
| [12:54:43] | SiD3WiNDR: | ye, with on the fly I meant without decode/reencode |
| [12:57:31] | juski: | AndyCap: nah. can't code, won't code :) |
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| [13:07:57] | tafkaz: | another one :Parser not found for Codec Id: 94212 |
| [13:08:53] | tafkaz: | this only happens with some specific radio channel |
| [13:09:51] | tafkaz: | 2007-07–20 15:05:25.991 RingBuf(/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/29475_20070720150514.mpg): Waited 2.0 seconds for data to become available... |
| [13:11:24] | tafkaz: | is it normal btw that hparm -d /dev/sda dosnt show any output ? |
| [13:11:41] | tafkaz: | does hdparm not give you dma records for sata ? |
| [13:11:48] | Dagmar: | When you don't read the man page it's normal |
| [13:12:06] | tafkaz: | u really start boring me ! |
| [13:12:45] | tafkaz: | just tell me: i dont want to answer, or just dont aswer instead of giving unneccessary comments ! |
| [13:13:13] | tafkaz: | i mean....if i go on your nerves....why bother at all |
| [13:13:45] | Dagmar: | I'm telling you in a not so subtle way is that the *first* thing you should do when you have a problem is to *try to solve it on your own* |
| [13:14:00] | Dagmar: | ...*not* to ask other people because you're too lazy to think for yourself |
| [13:14:27] | Dagmar: | If/when you fail at solving it on your own, and you have actually made a decent attempt at it, THEN it's fine to ask others. |
| [13:14:28] | tafkaz: | right......and you decide that i didnt do that before right ? |
| [13:14:33] | Dagmar: | Damn right |
| [13:14:42] | Dagmar: | It's in the freaking man page or I wouldn't have said it. |
| [13:15:00] | Dagmar: | You wanna continue to be a whiny punk or are you going to man up and read? |
| [13:15:16] | tafkaz: | i'm trying to get this mythtv-thing to work for about 14 days now, and i am a f***** linux-engineer !!! |
| [13:15:43] | tafkaz: | i decide NOT to listen to YOU anymore instead ! |
| [13:16:01] | Dagmar: | 14 days? |
| [13:16:03] | Dagmar: | I see. |
| [13:16:10] | tafkaz: | as long as you dont want to help but only trying to be an asshole |
| [13:16:10] | Dagmar: | Your problem is that you're apparently a moron. |
| [13:16:18] | Dagmar: | ...and a whiny one at that. |
| [13:16:20] | tafkaz: | go screw yarself ! |
| [13:18:48] | Dagmar: | Perhaps you might consider that the reason that it's taking you this many days is because you're being a lamer and not actually doing any real researche |
| [13:19:04] | Dagmar: | The wiki and the main mythtv site have installation documentation that tells how all of everything works. |
| [13:19:13] | Dagmar: | But hay, live in the dark. See if we care. |
| [13:19:24] | juski: | been thinking about making a script to automatically paste errors from my mythtv log in here, then I won't ever need to think again |
| [13:20:16] | juski: | whoah. killer $#$$$$$$ idea! |
| [13:21:01] | juski: | MythMinder – a susbscription-only service where qualified, caring technicians look after your myth system because you're too lazy to read the docs |
| [13:21:43] | juski: | "ah. it needs an upgrade. that's 14 hours on engineering time at $50 an hour" |
| [13:22:02] | tafkaz: | well at least you re funny ! |
| [13:23:31] | juski: | SKy TV sell extended warranties that basically only entitle you to an engineer visit where the guy will hard-reset the box & make all your recordings go away. my service would be less extreme :-P |
| [13:23:53] | Dagmar: | http://www.gerv.net/hacking/how-to-ask-good-questions/ |
| [13:24:54] | juski: | oh no not him |
| [13:25:05] | juski: | I met him a couple of times. |
| [13:27:00] | Dagmar: | I could cite http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| [13:27:16] | Dagmar: | ..but then we'd have to argue about which of the two authors of that is a bigger asshole |
| [13:27:24] | Dagmar: | I'm saying Moen. |
| [13:29:18] | juski: | he was the first person I met at LRL2006. (stamping foot) .. "why does mythtv use mysql??!?!?!?!?!" |
| [13:29:39] | juski: | place had been open 5 minutes & I already wanted to punch somebody |
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| [13:30:03] | tafkaz: | you guys seem so frustrated |
| [13:30:27] | Dagmar: | juski: "Answer: Just to bug the s**t out of people." |
| [13:30:54] | Dagmar: | I'm not frustrated. I read carefully, and therefore, my stuff was up and running in about five hours |
| [13:31:05] | Dagmar: | ...and that's from never having seen it before. |
| [13:31:40] | juski: | or "btw, here's your mother's money back. it was a pleasure" |
| [13:31:48] | tafkaz: | yeah right.... i needed exactly 3 hours to get everything running....but i still have problems....and thats why i had the stupid idea to ask here ! |
| [13:32:06] | Dagmar: | ENOTIME is not a signal we recognize |
| [13:32:41] | Dagmar: | Red Pandas are very cool, and since they're listed as endangered, I'm not allowed to have one for a pet. *sigh* |
| [13:32:44] | Dagmar: | wrong chan |
| [13:32:56] | armbar: | I am running svn trunk and cannot talk to my mediamvp since my last update. 2007-07–18 21:26:36.448 MainServer::HandleVersion – Client speaks protocol version 8 but we speak 35! |
| [13:34:46] | juski: | armbar: duh wrong version :) |
| [13:35:04] | juski: | upgrade the MVP or downgrade the backend |
| [13:35:17] | armbar: | juski: ok |
| [13:35:51] | juski: | little tip for ya.. protocol 8 must've been around version 0.12 or so |
| [13:36:07] | armbar: | :) |
| [13:36:08] | juski: | so maybe you just need to configure the mediamvp |
| [13:36:59] | kslater: | iow – no way would the mediamvp ever have supported protocol 8 |
| [13:40:21] | GreyFoxx: | Actually I think it did |
| [13:40:23] | GreyFoxx: | way back |
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| [13:41:18] | GreyFoxx: | coolm firewire on my new STB does work |
| [13:41:27] | GreyFoxx: | This could be nifty |
| [13:42:34] | juski: | if it's anything like XBMCmythtv, it |
| [13:43:00] | juski: | .. it'd have a data entry area where you put the protocol version |
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| [13:48:46] | armbar: | err. even the mvpmc daily builds use protocol 8 :/ |
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| [13:49:11] | olsta: | hi |
| [13:49:24] | armbar: | when am I going to learn to stop updateding mythtv |
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| [13:49:50] | olsta: | i use here dvb-t and i found a channels.conf and it will work fine, but i get only for two channels the epg |
| [13:49:51] | olsta: | why? |
| [13:49:54] | juski: | armbar: there's no way in the world that would work with anything. somebody made a booboo |
| [13:50:34] | juski: | olsta: you should scan for channels in mythtv-setup NOT import a channels.conf if you want EIT to work! |
| [13:50:50] | ** Merlin83b2 heads to the US. ** | |
| [13:50:52] | armbar: | juski: It worked two days ago. Then I svp up and rebulit mythtv amd mythplugions because of a protocal missmatch. |
| [13:50:52] | GreyFoxx: | armbar: No way |
| [13:50:53] | Merlin83b2: | See you in a coupld of weeks, folks. |
| [13:51:05] | juski: | if scanning in mytht-setup doesn't work you should report it |
| [13:51:07] | GreyFoxx: | Actually I think they have backwards compatibility |
| [13:51:10] | janneg: | juski: that's fixed in trunk and current -fixes |
| [13:51:10] | olsta: | juski, k but i don`t found all the channels with the scan |
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| [13:51:15] | juski: | have fun Merlin83b2 |
| [13:51:16] | Merlin83b2: | GreyFoxx: Take it you didn't get tickets for HostingCon ;-) |
| [13:51:18] | GreyFoxx: | cause I used mymvp with trunk as of 6 months ago |
| [13:51:26] | juski: | olsta: you should report that then |
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| [13:51:29] | GreyFoxx: | Merlin83b2: Nah, my boss is being changes |
| [13:51:37] | GreyFoxx: | being cheap I mean |
| [13:51:41] | Merlin83b2: | Heh |
| [13:51:42] | Dagmar: | hehe |
| [13:51:54] | Merlin83b2: | Oh well. |
| [13:51:56] | Dagmar: | I was about to ask why is a mouse when it's spinning? |
| [13:52:15] | juski: | olsta: if you update to a newer version of 0.20-fixses you can use EIT when you have imprted a channels.conf file thanks to a nice dev :) |
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| [13:52:20] | armbar: | GreyFoxx: so do I but not with 14014 |
| [13:52:28] | olsta: | juski, what you mean if i scan i had only 11 channels and with the channels.conf 20 channels and they will work |
| [13:52:42] | dopester: | oh sweet eit works now :) |
| [13:52:51] | GreyFoxx: | armbar: that's cause the protcol went from 34 to 35 in the last few days |
| [13:52:53] | juski: | olsta: MUHHHHHHHHHH I mean you should report scanning problems or they WILL NOT GET FIXED |
| [13:53:01] | GreyFoxx: | but the mvp definately supports newer than 8 :) |
| [13:53:18] | olsta: | i had no scanning problems but he don`t find all the channels |
| [13:53:20] | juski: | if devs do not know stuff id broken they can't fix it damnit |
| [13:53:31] | armbar: | GreyFoxx: but myth did not keep its backwards compatiblity |
| [13:53:36] | olsta: | but i will scan ;) |
| [13:53:39] | GreyFoxx: | armbar: No, we don't |
| [13:53:47] | juski: | armbar: myth has never had it |
| [13:53:52] | armbar: | GreyFoxx: :( |
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| [13:54:20] | armbar: | juski: myth used to talk ver 8 with a ver 34 backend |
| [13:54:25] | GreyFoxx: | You can always find out the latest version that the mvp supports |
| [13:54:27] | juski: | bullshit |
| [13:54:30] | GreyFoxx: | armbar: No it didn't |
| [13:54:44] | juski: | a version 30 frontend won't talk to a ver. 31 backend |
| [13:54:46] | armbar: | GreyFoxx: ok |
| [13:54:48] | juski: | never has, never will |
| [13:55:23] | juski: | this is why XBMCMYTHTV asks you to put the protocol version in there ;) |
| [13:55:43] | armbar: | juski: mvpmc does not |
| [13:55:53] | juski: | maybe they should :) |
| [13:56:33] | armbar: | I agree :) |
| [13:56:58] | juski: | or maybe an app could ask the backend what protocol it is & just pretend to be the same |
| [13:57:11] | juski: | though if that was possible I think it'd already do that |
| [13:57:13] | olsta: | juski, which fixes? |
| [13:57:53] | juski: | olsta: by not reporting the scanning problem to developers you are not doing the community any favours |
| [13:58:19] | juski: | if mythtv can't find the same channels as dvbscan something is wrong & needs to be fixed |
| [14:00:12] | juski: | anyway, a recent version of -fixes checked out from svn.mythtv.org should have the necessary code changes. you never know – the scasnning problem might even be fixed too!!!!! |
| [14:00:32] | olsta: | k thx |
| [14:00:40] | jams: | hi GreyFoxx i see you have unpacked the important stuff! |
| [14:00:52] | juski: | if I seem like I'm getting on your case it's only because too many users already let problems go unreported & yet whine when they don't get fixed :) |
| [14:01:30] | juski: | well, early hometime for me I reckon |
| [14:01:45] | juski: | POETS day :D |
| [14:01:55] | olsta: | well juski it was only a question |
| [14:03:26] | GreyFoxx: | jams: HEhe first thing I did was setup my masterbackend and all that :) |
| [14:03:43] | GreyFoxx: | this morning I plugged in the firewire cable and so far every channel is free and clear including all the hd ones |
| [14:04:28] | GreyFoxx: | And since it was my bday this week I'm finally getting to look at my gifts :) |
| [14:05:34] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: what kind of box? |
| [14:05:44] | olsta: | someone knows the link for the streaming module for mythweb? |
| [14:05:46] | GreyFoxx: | dct 6200 |
| [14:06:46] | fryfrog: | That is the HD *tuner* right? |
| [14:06:55] | fryfrog: | (ie, no DVR crap) |
| [14:07:32] | Dagmar: | GreyFoxx: You lucky bastard |
| [14:07:51] | Dagmar: | There's all of three non "protected" channels in this market |
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| [14:11:27] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: yes, the non dvr version |
| [14:12:03] | GreyFoxx: | Dagmar: yeah, I had called before I orderd it and they told me that they make sure firewire is on for every channel |
| [14:12:14] | GreyFoxx: | they just don't "support it" so thety wont help configure it for users |
| [14:12:23] | Dagmar: | I wish Comcast were that open-minded here. |
| [14:13:01] | GreyFoxx: | overall they are good |
| [14:13:20] | Dagmar: | Unfortunately, they've been brainwashed by the Monopolistic Pessimist Alliance of America |
| [14:13:21] | GreyFoxx: | 150 openqam channels.. 80 of them aredigital versions of the analog cable |
| [14:14:24] | Dagmar: | They ought to just give in and realize that people aren't so likely to pirate HD as all that for the same reason most people don't pirate DVDs... |
| [14:14:33] | Dagmar: | ...it takes too long to transcode the things down to something reasonable in size. |
| [14:14:33] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: did you do anything special to get the tuner? A while ago, I asked them to take their crappy DVR and give me *two* HD tuners... but the assholes were out of HD tuners and just traded me 2 HD DVRs for my 1 HD DVR |
| [14:14:57] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: Nope. Everyone gets the same tuner unless you specifically order the dvr |
| [14:15:22] | fryfrog: | I'd like to find out if they are in stock, but they charge $35 for every stupid trip out to your house |
| [14:15:35] | GreyFoxx: | wow really ? |
| [14:15:44] | fryfrog: | and when I asked about going to a local office they were like "sure, but we can't tell if they have any in stock before you get there" |
| [14:15:52] | fryfrog: | yeah, lame :( |
| [14:16:15] | fryfrog: | I'm also a *little* affriad that all my channels are not 5C'd because it is a DVR |
| [14:16:23] | fryfrog: | but your experience gives me hope |
| [14:16:30] | GreyFoxx: | damn, the software to convert video for my new video watch is crashy :/ |
| [14:16:42] | fryfrog: | where are you? |
| [14:16:51] | GreyFoxx: | Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada |
| [14:17:12] | fryfrog: | oh |
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| [14:17:17] | fryfrog: | long way from Georgia :) |
| [14:17:25] | GreyFoxx: | yeah :) |
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| [14:32:39] | olsta: | juski, after 5 scans with change the position my antenne i have all my channels with epg ;) |
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| [14:39:59] | mkrufky: | i checked on my backend in mythweb this AM after waking up, and to my surprise, there was a recording in progress.... it was recording LiveTV, but no frontend box was playing LiveTV at all... Seems like it was recording LiveTV for approx 18 hours or so.... the funny thing is, i never started any such livetv anywhere yesterday |
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| [14:41:17] | chuk: | that happens to me sometimes when my frontend hangs |
| [14:41:24] | mkrufky: | actually, i never use livetv ever — only for testing.... the last thing i did on the server yesterday was stop mythbackend to capture a full TS (for testing purposes) then start up mythbackend again |
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| [14:41:49] | mkrufky: | chuk: well, that would have made sense, if i was watching livetv on the frontend at one point ... but i wasnt |
| [14:42:13] | mkrufky: | it seems as it when i started the backend remotely, that it was automatically put into livetv mode |
| [14:42:16] | mkrufky: | so strange |
| [14:42:45] | mkrufky: | ..... my wireless router is unplugged — so i know that there arent any neighbors connected with their own mythfrontends :-P |
| [14:48:49] | Beirdo: | hehe. juski, you're on facebook, I see :) |
| [14:49:08] | laga: | i had my backend expost to the intarweb for a few minutes today. maybe your network is unsecured, too ;) |
| [14:49:41] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: You too? I became an addict briefly when my sister showed it to me |
| [14:49:58] | mkrufky: | ok,. thats the last straw .... . im gonna finally join it now |
| [14:50:08] | Beirdo: | heh, yep. it is a useful tool, but is also a bit addictive :) |
| [14:50:25] | mkrufky: | im on myspace and friendster and i never use those |
| [14:50:31] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:50:33] | laga: | what can it now? |
| [14:50:34] | mkrufky: | and everybody tells me im missing out on facebook |
| [14:50:35] | laga: | s/now/do/ |
| [14:50:50] | mkrufky: | i spend all day in front of the pc as it is.... i dont really need ANOTHER reason, lol |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | laga, it can connect you to your friends... and has many silly apps to keep you occupied |
| [14:51:01] | GreyFoxx: | mkf: I've never used myspace or friendster, but my sister bugged to go on facebook |
| [14:51:17] | GreyFoxx: | I've gotten back in contact with people I haven't seen in almost 15 years :) |
| [14:51:30] | Beirdo: | me too |
| [14:51:45] | Beirdo: | had a few high school friends contact me out of the blue |
| [14:51:49] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [14:51:54] | GreyFoxx: | Was freaky |
| [14:52:21] | Beirdo: | some of whom I didn't recognize the name as they'd gotten married... |
| [14:52:28] | Beirdo: | who the heck is that... Ooooooh.... |
| [14:52:37] | Beirdo: | stupid changing of last names :) |
| [14:53:18] | mkrufky: | the same hold true on myspace and friendster ..... but i guess there's always one that is favored among new people, and the others just die out, huh |
| [14:53:23] | mkrufky: | well, i'll join now :-) |
| [14:53:28] | Beirdo: | seems that way |
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| [14:54:09] | fryfrog: | I found a few people on facebook too, and i hate myspace :p |
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| [14:55:48] | mkrufky: | should i register to facebook using my reg email account , or should i use my spam-catcher ? |
| [14:55:52] | Beirdo: | hehe, in the MythTV users group on facebook, there's an employee (it seems) of BBC |
| [14:55:59] | fryfrog: | regular email is fine |
| [14:56:17] | fryfrog: | it can actually log into a few types of email accounts and help you find people you know on facebook |
| [14:56:18] | Beirdo: | well, it will email you when friends try to contact, and I haven't seen any spam that I recall |
| [14:56:20] | fryfrog: | and aim |
| [14:56:21] | mkrufky: | ok, so it's NOT a spam source ... i'll keep my fingers crossed |
| [14:56:29] | fryfrog: | nah, no spam for me from it so far |
| [14:56:33] | mkrufky: | good |
| [14:56:37] | fryfrog: | asside from "blah blah has added you as a friend" :p |
| [14:56:41] | mkrufky: | i'll use personal email acct |
| [14:56:41] | fryfrog: | is there a MythTV group?> :) |
| [14:56:55] | fryfrog: | and they also use your email to assign you to networks |
| [14:56:56] | GreyFoxx: | Ohhh I never even looked for a mythtv group on there |
| [14:57:04] | fryfrog: | my mom used her work email and was put into the coca-cola group |
| [14:57:27] | fryfrog: | there is a freenode group |
| [14:57:34] | fryfrog: | yup, a mythtv users group |
| [14:57:41] | fryfrog: | neat |
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| [14:59:23] | GreyFoxx: | I just joined it too hehe |
| [15:00:26] | ** mkrufky has succumbed to facebook ** | |
| [15:01:17] | fryfrog: | I found a guy I went to middleschool/highschool with like 15 years ago in Switzerland :) |
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| [15:03:30] | fryfrog: | actually, what *really* blew my mind was when I found my mom on facebook |
| [15:03:31] | fryfrog: | I was like "OMGWTFBBQ" |
| [15:03:31] | ** GreyFoxx goes to play with his helicopter ** | |
| [15:03:31] | fryfrog: | then i thought about it for a second and I remembered an email from a cousin who said she was getting married and put some picks up on facebook |
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| [15:04:56] | Beirdo: | yeah, that would do it |
| [15:06:06] | Beirdo: | my mom decided not to join it. :) |
| [15:06:47] | fryfrog: | all the people in the coca cola network are young wippernappers :) |
| [15:07:10] | mkrufky: | ok, so which is the 'cool' mythtv group?> i see Mythtv Users and MythtvTalk.com users of Facebook |
| [15:07:54] | Beirdo: | heh, I'm in Mythtv users. I don't do mythtvtalk.com, personally |
| [15:08:06] | fryfrog: | well, one only had 8 people :p |
| [15:08:10] | mkrufky: | ah, true |
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| [15:10:09] | Beirdo: | wouldn't it be nice if you could sort by the person's name when viewing group members? |
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| [15:11:07] | mkrufky: | lol ... Looking for: random play |
| [15:11:09] | mkrufky: | thats a good one |
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| [15:19:43] | fryfrog: | aw shit, Beirdo added me! |
| [15:19:50] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [15:21:38] | fryfrog: | okay, who of you other bitches are going to be my facebook friends? |
| [15:21:46] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [15:21:46] | fryfrog: | we win something at some point, right? |
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| [15:22:23] | fryfrog: | man, i had no idea your real name was Gavin |
| [15:22:32] | Beirdo: | aye :) |
| [15:22:45] | Dagmar: | Maybe if you were on myspace |
| [15:22:54] | Beirdo: | and there's my cute puppy there too |
| [15:23:05] | Beirdo: | she's bigger than that now though |
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| [15:23:49] | fryfrog: | myspace is for people with HIV |
| [15:24:18] | Dagmar: | And facebook has this thing about requiring pictures |
| [15:24:21] | mkrufky: | thats not cool |
| [15:24:26] | fryfrog: | requiring? |
| [15:24:26] | Beirdo: | it doesn't require one |
| [15:24:37] | Beirdo: | you can leave it with the big "?" |
| [15:24:38] | mkrufky: | facebook did not require a photo |
| [15:24:48] | fryfrog: | nar, no photo req when i signed up |
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| [15:24:58] | Dagmar: | It's facebook. They're all about teh shallow |
| [15:25:00] | fryfrog: | maybe that is something from back when it was college emails only? |
| [15:25:02] | mkrufky: | haha fryfrog you found me! |
| [15:25:08] | fryfrog: | i totally found you :) |
| [15:25:25] | fryfrog: | I also found my cousin, she has like 400+ friends |
| [15:25:34] | fryfrog: | I thought I was getting up there with like 20 :( |
| [15:25:47] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah, my wife has far too many too |
| [15:26:00] | Dagmar: | WARNING: Tammy Faye is in heavy rotation on CNN today. |
| [15:26:02] | fryfrog: | I like that you can say who you are married to and such |
| [15:26:12] | Dagmar: | I suggest not watching any news for the next week or so to avoid seeing "it". |
| [15:26:27] | Beirdo: | I don't watch the news anyways :) |
| [15:26:28] | mkrufky: | yay i have friends |
| [15:26:46] | Beirdo: | when I do, it's usually the local news... in Spanish, and I don't understand most of it |
| [15:26:49] | fryfrog: | what did she do? |
| [15:27:05] | Dagmar: | She's got cancer and weighs 65 pounds |
| [15:27:16] | Beirdo: | including the makeup? |
| [15:27:18] | Dagmar: | ...and is still wearing the same amount of makeup as when she weighed 200. |
| [15:27:32] | Dagmar: | It's the sort of thing that will make children cry and give them nightmares. |
| [15:27:39] | Dagmar: | **UGLY** |
| [15:27:48] | Beirdo: | friggin circus clown on crack |
| [15:27:54] | fryfrog: | They were involved in some scandle, right? |
| [15:28:01] | Dagmar: | Something like that |
| [15:28:06] | fryfrog: | something about money and putting a/c into their dog house? |
| [15:28:06] | Beirdo: | many years back, yeah |
| [15:28:17] | Dagmar: | ...but I'm thinking maybe a cut-rate clown after a few years on skid row hooked on crack |
| [15:28:37] | fryfrog: | damn, i can't see how many friends your wife hs :( |
| [15:28:44] | Beirdo: | 40, so far |
| [15:28:50] | fryfrog: | oh, bah |
| [15:28:52] | Beirdo: | will likely be 200 next week |
| [15:28:55] | fryfrog: | 200?? |
| [15:28:57] | fryfrog: | sheesh |
| [15:29:07] | Beirdo: | exaggerating a wee bit |
| [15:29:14] | fryfrog: | I'd have to get everyone in every IRC channel i hang out in just to get like 50 :p |
| [15:29:17] | Beirdo: | but she goes nuts on facebook :) |
| [15:29:26] | Dagmar: | See, I only let people who are my actual IRL friends be in lists on those sites |
| [15:29:50] | fryfrog: | Dagmar: sounds like no fun :) |
| [15:29:54] | Beirdo: | oh jeez |
| [15:29:57] | Beirdo: | I have 65? |
| [15:30:00] | fryfrog: | what is neat about facebook is you can actually explain "relationships" |
| [15:30:07] | Beirdo: | OK I'll stop complaining about my wife now ;) |
| [15:30:09] | Dagmar: | ...not that I think "internet friends" don't count or something, but there should be a separate category |
| [15:30:10] | fryfrog: | ahha |
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| [15:30:40] | Dagmar: | One for IRL friends, one for online friends, one for crazy teenage girls that stalk you, etc etc |
| [15:30:55] | Dagmar: | So far, I've gotten no teenage stalkers from MySpace. |
| [15:30:59] | fryfrog: | Like for Beirdo and mkrufky I put "You were members of #mythtv-users @ freenode.irc.net." |
| [15:31:00] | Dagmar: | I really don't see what all the fuss was about. |
| [15:31:25] | fryfrog: | well, actually I think mkrufky put it, and i copied it cause it was a good way of phrasing it :) |
| [15:31:45] | malph_work: | If I have myth backend on my main media server and I have mythtv frontend on a htpc The tuner card(s) can only be in the mythtv backend machine, is that correct? |
| [15:32:06] | fryfrog: | I hate myspace and friendster, but i'm actually pretty impressed with facebook |
| [15:32:19] | fryfrog: | (but i still have teh myspace/friendster, even though i hate it) |
| [15:32:20] | Dagmar: | malph_work: That's not really a question you should have to ask. Read http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Executive_Overview |
| [15:32:35] | Dagmar: | malph_work: It should clear up those kinds of questions |
| [15:32:37] | mkrufky: | fryfrog: yeah, that was me :-) |
| [15:32:48] | fryfrog: | malph_work: a "backend" runs where the tuners are, but they can be anywhere you like |
| [15:33:06] | fryfrog: | though typically, what you said is how it is |
| [15:33:09] | Beirdo: | heh, you can often find me in #gallery asking silly questions too :) |
| [15:34:20] | fryfrog: | true! |
| [15:35:09] | malph_work: | thanks to all that replied |
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| [15:35:43] | fryfrog: | ZOMG KITTENS: http://fryfrog.com/wordpress/v/MaryAnn-Donnie . . . mandKittens/ |
| [15:36:12] | laga: | zomg black kittens! |
| [15:36:58] | fryfrog: | does make it kind of hard to *see* them :/ |
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| [15:37:08] | fryfrog: | kind of looks like one cat with a *big* tummy |
| [15:37:09] | mkrufky: | oops, i think i did a "only access to limited profile" on bierdo ... is there a way i can fix that? |
| [15:37:22] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [15:37:28] | mkrufky: | it was an accident |
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| [15:37:37] | Beirdo: | I think there's a setting if you go to the friend details |
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| [15:37:42] | mkrufky: | ok |
| [15:38:10] | fryfrog: | http://fryfrog.com/wordpress/v/MaryAnn-Donnie . . . 062.JPG.html |
| [15:38:14] | fryfrog: | there, thats the goodest one |
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| [15:39:00] | Beirdo: | not to worry anyways :) |
| [15:39:05] | yhjjh: | http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.p . . . pagenumber=1 |
| [15:39:06] | yhjjh: | :$ |
| [15:39:12] | Beirdo: | it's there somewhere :) |
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| [15:40:46] | Beirdo: | hmmm, I should go make myself foooood |
| [15:41:19] | jams: | fryfrog- cats in a cage? |
| [15:42:54] | fryfrog: | yeah, so we don't have to hunt them down to fry them |
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| [15:49:31] | Dagmar: | LOL! "Why is the Cryptkeeper on CNN? OH." |
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| [16:02:03] | laga: | fryfrog: why do you keep the fur balls in a cage? |
| [16:02:20] | Beirdo: | containment |
| [16:02:39] | Beirdo: | otherwise you end up with kittens roaming all about :) |
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| [16:04:52] | laga: | bah |
| [16:04:56] | laga: | free the kittens! |
| [16:05:02] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:05:18] | Beirdo: | trust me, you don't want newborn kittens roaming |
| [16:05:25] | Beirdo: | they are blind at birth, you know |
| [16:05:31] | laga: | yes |
| [16:05:32] | Beirdo: | just stress out the momma |
| [16:05:33] | laga: | it's cute. |
| [16:05:42] | laga: | we hadn some newborn kittens like.. 15 years ago |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | kittens are so cute... but then they turn into cats |
| [16:06:11] | Beirdo: | and many cats are just snobby buttholes |
| [16:06:17] | laga: | our cats are still nice |
| [16:06:33] | Beirdo: | yeah, there are some that are nice, of course :) |
| [16:07:44] | Beirdo: | I don't think having a cat is in my near future... Too bad, as a nice cat is a nice addition to the family... A snobby one that won't give you the time of the day, however... ick. |
| [16:07:56] | Beirdo: | our puppy will be an only pet for a while |
| [16:07:57] | Dagmar: | Red Panda FTW |
| [16:07:59] | laga: | we got two black kittens a few years ago. :) |
| [16:09:39] | laga: | one is slowly turning white, it's weird. the longer hair is still black hair but the shorter hair is white. it turns into grey when it's walking |
| [16:09:58] | Beirdo: | neat |
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| [16:11:43] | robbins876: | I went to bed about 4 hours ago |
| [16:11:49] | robbins876: | now i have to get ready for work |
| [16:11:54] | fryfrog: | They are in a cage because the mother is feral and we have 2 other cats and a dog. The kittens are about 3–4 weeks old, so they don't have eyes closed :) |
| [16:12:01] | robbins876: | linux has caused so many sleepless nights |
| [16:12:16] | fryfrog: | Mostly it is to keep *our* animals from catching anything the mom might have (FIV, etc) |
| [16:12:28] | Beirdo: | ahhh, that's also a good reason :) |
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| [16:31:36] | alieas: | Hi all, I'm building a new MythTv box based on one of the new E6850 Intel Chips. I'm wondering, does it really make any difference from 1GB to 2GB of RAM in this box? |
| [16:32:43] | laga: | if you spend that much on a CPU, a few bucks for more RAM shouldn't matter ;) |
| [16:33:23] | alieas: | laga: well I was thinking of getting a single 1GB stick to start, and then get the matching stick in a few paychecks... |
| [16:33:34] | laga: | heh |
| [16:33:39] | alieas: | I had 2GB in my 4600+ |
| [16:33:50] | alieas: | and the MythTV information would say it was using the entire 2GB |
| [16:33:55] | laga: | 1GB RAM should be sufficient for mythtv. unless you run some really memory-hungry themes with an old version fo ymthtv on a HD display |
| [16:34:08] | laga: | yes, but i guess that's because how linux handles memory |
| [16:34:08] | bluey-: | linux always caches all the ram |
| [16:34:12] | alieas: | but what the hell could it need that much ram for? |
| [16:35:02] | alieas: | Its probably just good practice to go with the 2GB tho... |
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| [16:35:56] | bluey-: | mhh anyway ... for what so much horsepower :x ? |
| [16:36:26] | godsyn: | help : how do I disable opengl from the CLI. I enabled it and my card cannot handle it (~2fps in menus, fading, etc) and I cannot navigate to through the menus to disable it. |
| [16:36:37] | alieas: | I havn't been able to play back 720p x.264 video on my 4600+ |
| [16:37:51] | alieas: | and now that you can buy that E6850 is as fast as the X6800 and for only $300 !! I figured the X6800 was the only chip I could use for 720p x.264 and that chip is still $850 |
| [16:38:00] | godsyn: | anyone? |
| [16:38:19] | fryfrog: | alieas: linux *always* uses allthe available ram |
| [16:38:23] | fryfrog: | oh, bah |
| [16:38:25] | fryfrog: | to slow :) |
| [16:38:32] | fryfrog: | 1G is by far plenty :) |
| [16:38:36] | laga: | alieas: RAM is used as cache as well. you can get the real usage by running "free -m" and looking at "-/+ buffers/cache:" |
| [16:38:58] | bluey-: | soo much money ... we need those gfx hardware acceleration |
| [16:39:35] | godsyn: | help : how do I disable opengl from the CLI? I enabled it and my card cannot handle it (~2fps in menus, fading, etc) and I cannot navigate to through the menus to disable it. |
| [16:39:40] | fryfrog: | godsyn: there is an option you can pass to mythfrontend |
| [16:39:51] | alieas: | yeah its pretty sad these vids will play back on a Asus Pundit w/ nVidia 6150 Integrated on a 4600+, but now way in linux |
| [16:39:51] | fryfrog: | do --help and it should give you a way of modifyhing some msyql settings |
| [16:39:55] | fryfrog: | and try the wiki |
| [16:40:05] | alieas: | laga: thanks for that command |
| [16:40:32] | laga: | godsyn: laga: 'painter' could be myth{frontend|tv-setup} -O ThemePainter=qt |
| [16:40:57] | godsyn: | ok.. ty will try. |
| [16:41:17] | bluey-: | have you tried mplayer or only the internal engine from mythtv to playback those stuff? afaik mplayer is much more optimized for h264 |
| [16:42:01] | alieas: | bluey: yeah... tried everything. CoreAVC as a DirectShow plugin with VLC/Mplayer would probably do it... but I haven't been able to find anyone that has that down |
| [16:42:11] | laga: | bluey-: it depends. mythtv trunk shouldn't be much worse than mplayer. both are based on ffmpeg |
| [16:42:14] | alieas: | CoreAVC is a commercial h.264 decoder |
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| [16:47:20] | janneg: | alieas: if you're using trunk you could try following patch http://www.grunau.be/ffmpeg_sync_9430_mt_h264_13888.diff.bz2 |
| [16:47:59] | Dibblah: | laga: Haven't figured out why, but there is a significant difference (20%) in processor usage between mplayer and internal. |
| [16:48:49] | juski: | some profiling is needed, obviously :D |
| [16:49:07] | Dibblah: | Done it. No obvious low hanging fruit. |
| [16:49:18] | juski: | no? bah :( |
| [16:49:23] | janneg: | Dibblah: I can't confirm that number. it was less than 5% here the last time I checked |
| [16:49:42] | Dibblah: | However, my oprofile-foo isn't that good :( |
| [16:49:55] | juski: | maybe some OMGoptomisations ;) |
| [16:50:04] | alieas: | janneg: hm, interesting... what does this patch do exactly? |
| [16:50:07] | Dibblah: | janneg: Admittedly, last time I checked it was about a year ago. |
| [16:50:17] | Dibblah: | multi-threaded h264 decoding. |
| [16:50:36] | alieas: | really? |
| [16:51:06] | alieas: | SMP h264 for the internal mythtv player? |
| [16:51:26] | janneg: | alieas: slice based parallel h264 decoding and a ffmpeg upgrade |
| [16:51:52] | janneg: | Dibblah: iirc I checked in February |
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| [16:53:04] | alieas: | janneg: seriously... I will try that tonight... |
| [16:53:50] | janneg: | alieas: it's based on mythtv trunk revision 13888 |
| [16:54:05] | alieas: | janneg: I can checkout that specific revision, right? |
| [16:54:27] | alieas: | does that only work with the internal player then and not mplayer? |
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| [16:56:38] | janneg: | that patch only works for mythtv. if you want to patch mplayer you have to look for h264-parallel-take3.diff on the ffmpeg-dev ml |
| [16:57:32] | alieas: | thanks! is 13888 the current trunk? |
| [16:58:46] | alieas: | has anyone used these patches? are they solid? do they support quad core? |
| [16:58:59] | janneg: | alieas: btw, is your file somewhere available? I can decode h264 1080p with an amd64 x2 4800+ even without that patch |
| [16:59:45] | janneg: | 13888 is a checkout from last week |
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| [17:01:18] | Speedy2: | alieas: I did a checkout two or three days ago and got to 14000 |
| [17:01:31] | jarle__: | There is not a known problem running mythtv on a setup with a DVB-S card connected to a diseqc with four LNBs? It should work just fine? |
| [17:01:31] | Speedy2: | alieas: Yes, can check out specific version using svn |
| [17:01:36] | alieas: | speedy: thnx |
| [17:01:57] | alieas: | janneg: sorry not available today but maybe I can chop up some clips tonight and put them on my webserver... |
| [17:01:58] | janneg: | alieas: I use it. it uses currently 4 threads but that is editable |
| [17:02:10] | nug_: | i am having an issue with nuvexport, anyone have a second to help? |
| [17:02:23] | alieas: | this sounds awesome... |
| [17:02:30] | alieas: | hopefully will work for me :) |
| [17:03:04] | janneg: | alieas: it depends on the stream |
| [17:03:27] | alieas: | I'll try to get some stream samples up. |
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| [17:04:17] | Speedy2: | jarle__: myth works with diseqc, and dvb |
| [17:06:19] | nug_: | when i am transcoding with nuvexport, the completion percentage goes way past 100%, is this a known issue? |
| [17:06:54] | jarle__: | somehow I get this error when running mythtv-setup: "DiSEqCDevTree, Error: Port 1 has no connected devices configured." Not sure how to solve this... |
| [17:10:06] | alieas: | "svn co --revision 13888 http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv" Is that about right? |
| [17:11:44] | fryfrog: | I thought DiSEq controlled the direction/pointing of ariel/sat? |
| [17:15:12] | jarle__: | fryfrog: diseqc is used to select which LNB to use it functions like a switch you can connect several LNBs to. |
| [17:16:17] | fryfrog: | ah, neat |
| [17:16:23] | fryfrog: | what does that let you *do*? |
| [17:16:38] | fryfrog: | have a few ariels or sats and pick which one you want? |
| [17:18:13] | jarle__: | fryfrog: One LNB for each satelite you want to receive, and then use the diseqc to connect them all together in one cable that goes into your tuner. Your tuner will then send signals to the switch telling it which LNB to use... |
| [17:18:45] | fryfrog: | neat |
| [17:20:06] | jarle__: | fryfrog: If I could just set it up right in mythtv it would be (its working just fine in my dreambox) |
| [17:20:37] | fryfrog: | so is this for free sat? or is it a few LNBs from one of the triple LNB dtv type dishes? |
| [17:21:34] | jarle__: | fryfrog: not sure what you mean, I have a dish with four LNBs. |
| [17:22:00] | fryfrog: | i don't know a whole lot about sat. what satalites is it aimed at? |
| [17:22:32] | jarle__: | fryfrog: Thor 2, Hotbird, Astra and Eurobird 1 |
| [17:22:56] | fryfrog: | are the channels on those FTA or do you have like... some sort of subscription? |
| [17:23:57] | alieas: | I wish I knew more about FTA Sat |
| [17:24:45] | jarle__: | It it possible to run dvbstream on my mythbackend and have it stream to mplayer running on my desktop? |
| [17:25:23] | jarle__: | Something like "ssh -X -Y jarle@192.168.1.200 dvbstream -f 11247 -p v -s 24500| mplayer -ao sdl -", only I want mplayer running on the local desktop, and not on the backend (192.168.1.200) |
| [17:26:57] | jarle__: | fryfrog: I have a subscription in addition to the FTA channels (and I was hoping to be able to setup a mythtv system utilizing my subscription card eventually too...) |
| [17:27:19] | fryfrog: | ah |
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| [17:36:21] | alieas: | janneg: can you tell me the command to apply this diff.bz2 patch? I've got the 13888 checkout but I've never had to apply patches before |
| [17:36:39] | fryfrog: | bunzip2 diff.bz12 |
| [17:36:43] | fryfrog: | er, w/o the 1 |
| [17:36:56] | fryfrog: | then "patch -p0 --dry-run < diff" |
| [17:37:02] | fryfrog: | if it works, you can remove the --dry-run |
| [17:37:12] | fryfrog: | if it doesn't, you can fiddle with the -p0 (ie, -p1) |
| [17:41:18] | alieas: | fryfrog: thanks... seems to work with -p2 |
| [17:43:06] | alieas: | btw, fryfrog, your two PVR-250's are still alive and kickin' |
| [17:43:15] | fryfrog: | nice! |
| [17:43:18] | fryfrog: | the ones i sent you? |
| [17:45:24] | olds: | jarle: you still need help with the diseqc stuff? |
| [17:46:01] | alieas: | yeah... I actually recorded a slideshow video-out from my camera into the composite input on one the other day. Took me a little while to figure out how to use v4lctrl to set the proper input |
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| [17:47:19] | fryfrog: | Your PVR500 is sitting on my desk :) |
| [17:47:53] | alieas: | heh, you don't use it? you want to sell it back to me? |
| [17:48:01] | fryfrog: | ahahhah |
| [17:48:22] | fryfrog: | I *kindof* want to use it, but don't really have a reason to |
| [17:48:25] | alieas: | wait tho – it had those samsung tuners |
| [17:48:33] | fryfrog: | did you resolve your problem with it? |
| [17:48:38] | alieas: | I bet they are a lot better supported now tho. |
| [17:48:40] | fryfrog: | i thought it was something to do with your motherboard? |
| [17:48:53] | alieas: | its actually 100% incompatible with the Asus A8V motherboard |
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| [17:49:14] | alieas: | due to the bridging of the AGP/PCI bus |
| [17:49:38] | alieas: | becuase, the PVR-500 has it's own "bridge" (for the dual tuners), which conflicts with the mobo's bridge |
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| [17:53:23] | alieas: | I havn't compiled a mythtv SVN in about 5 months... any new features? |
| [17:54:25] | fryfrog: | so did you get rid of the Asus MB? |
| [17:54:37] | fryfrog: | or do you have something *else* to use the 500 in? |
| [17:55:17] | fryfrog: | oh, i forgot my parents have a new tv! |
| [17:55:25] | fryfrog: | i can maybe build them a mythbox using your PVR500 :p |
| [17:55:34] | fryfrog: | if you want, i do have another pvr250? |
| [17:55:43] | alieas: | well I was about to build a new box until janneg hit me with this smp h.264 patch... which seemed to apply to the 13888 checkout just fine. so I'm going to try that on my 4600+ tonight and see how it works (on the A8V mobo). So I'll be back in here tommorow |
| [17:57:56] | alieas: | the new mobo I was going to get, needs to be 1333Mhz FSB & I can only find with 3x PCI slots. The Asus P5K. So if/when that upgrade happens I'd like to move back to PVR-500's Although I will probably just find out that it is incompatible :) |
| [17:58:20] | alieas: | my A8V (AMD 939), has 5x PCI slots |
| [17:58:57] | fryfrog: | Ah, if you like I'd be happy to swap back to those 2x PVR250s if you want |
| [17:59:37] | alieas: | and I boughta ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA that supports Kentsfield and has 4x PCI slots but its only 1066Mhz FSB, so you can use it with the new E6850/E6750 chips. |
| [17:59:55] | alieas: | fryfrog: let me test this patch tonight, then I'll email you or see you in here |
| [18:00:26] | fryfrog: | what is a 4CoreDual? |
| [18:00:36] | fryfrog: | is it a dual motherboard that supports dual core? |
| [18:03:30] | alieas: | fryfrog: no... i dunno its got a funny name |
| [18:03:53] | alieas: | http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Asrock-4CoreDual-VSTA . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [18:04:23] | alieas: | The reason I got it was because you can use DDR or DDR2, and you can use PCI-E Gfx, or AGP gfx. Its a very versitle board as long as your not looking for high performance. |
| [18:04:57] | alieas: | and the only C2D board I could find with 4x PCI slots |
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| [18:12:13] | zorglu_: | q. in which language mythtv is coded ? |
| [18:12:29] | zorglu_: | well in fact my question is more 'once launched, how much ram does it use' ? |
| [18:13:05] | jams: | c++ / qt |
| [18:16:49] | zorglu_: | jams: ok thanks |
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| [18:27:02] | mkrufky: | this facebook thing is getting out of hand |
| [18:27:15] | mkrufky: | i joined today, and emails are just pouring in |
| [18:27:22] | mkrufky: | </ot> |
| [18:31:11] | fryfrog: | mkrufky: you can ajust what things send you email, i turned most of them off myself |
| [18:31:29] | mkrufky: | eh, thats ok |
| [18:31:39] | mkrufky: | im just surprised at all these people finding me that quickly |
| [18:31:45] | mkrufky: | dont they work? |
| [18:31:50] | fryfrog: | oh, you mean a lot of people are adding you? |
| [18:31:53] | mkrufky: | yeah |
| [18:31:56] | mkrufky: | it's rediculous |
| [18:32:00] | fryfrog: | i thought you meant you were getting emails when people did other stuff |
| [18:32:01] | mkrufky: | and writing on my wall too |
| [18:32:01] | fryfrog: | neat :) |
| [18:32:12] | fryfrog: | anyone from your long ago past? |
| [18:32:14] | mkrufky: | well, sure im getting emails from whatever they're doing |
| [18:32:24] | mkrufky: | nah... some people from college ... thats not TOOO long ago |
| [18:32:29] | mkrufky: | (i graduated in 2002) |
| [18:32:57] | mkrufky: | gasp! thats the first time i revealed my age to linux people! |
| [18:33:17] | mkrufky: | i think i gave my birthdate in facebook anyway |
| [18:34:13] | mkrufky: | some guy i dont know did a request to add me, (i think i know him thru a common friend ) and asked me to join some group, "buddha is the cutest dog in brooklyn" |
| [18:34:28] | mkrufky: | sometime tells me he doesnt care about the dog, itself |
| [18:34:42] | mkrufky: | ...(and i think it's kinda ugly anyway) |
| [18:38:20] | fryfrog: | An old co-worker of mine added my wife |
| [18:38:30] | fryfrog: | she was like "who the hell is this and why would i want to be his friend" :p |
| [18:38:41] | mkrufky: | i think i just found a friend that i havent spoken to in 15 years |
| [18:38:44] | fryfrog: | and *I* barely knew him, not even sure if he met her back then :p |
| [18:38:48] | fryfrog: | score! |
| [18:38:55] | fryfrog: | did you use the "rape my gmail/aim account" thing? |
| [18:39:00] | mkrufky: | i did |
| [18:39:11] | mkrufky: | but i said "no" to most people, lol |
| [18:39:23] | mkrufky: | gmail is like a contact sponge |
| [18:39:48] | mkrufky: | every user that's ever sent in a bugzilla report for v4l-dvb is a gmail contact ... kinda annoying |
| [18:41:16] | fryfrog: | yeah, sure is :) |
| [18:41:25] | fryfrog: | it wanted me to email like 500 people to join facebook |
| [18:41:30] | fryfrog: | i was like "kthxno" |
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| [18:45:27] | mkrufky: | lol |
| [18:45:36] | mkrufky: | i didnt let it email anybody |
| [18:45:57] | fryfrog: | me either :) |
| [18:46:35] | mkrufky: | that's wierd... in the facebook "search" box, it has every time ive ever searched via google in firefox |
| [18:46:42] | mkrufky: | s/time/term |
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| [18:47:29] | fryfrog: | uh oh, it haxored your google account |
| [18:47:45] | fryfrog: | now facebook knows you searched for "how to sex dolphins" |
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| [18:48:22] | mkrufky: | nah... i dont have saved searches in my gmail account ... i didnt start using that feature yet |
| [18:48:39] | mkrufky: | this seems to be reading from the local browser's google search history |
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| [19:16:23] | xris: | and... http://www.schedulesdirect.org/ |
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| [19:18:28] | d00gster: | guys I have Mythtv running on debian and have a mobo with a built in intel video card (82865G Integrated) I bought a vga-rca|svid adaptor hoping to spit the signal on rca to me tv. I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg and configured my xorg with the interactive configurator. I was hoping that someone can tell me how to get the signal on rca. |
| [19:18:34] | mkrufky: | yay! |
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| [19:19:54] | mkrufky: | xris: i think that's channel-topic worthy |
| [19:20:12] | mkrufky: | err... actually, it CERTAINLY is |
| [19:20:17] | mkrufky: | since the old name is currently in there |
| [19:20:32] | xris: | mkrufky: thanks. forgot that I added it to the topic |
| [19:20:39] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o xris | |
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| [19:20:51] | xris!n=xris@xris.forevermore.net changes topic to .:. Welcome to the official user-to-user support channel. .:. http://mythtv.org/ .:. Latest stable release: 0.20 NOT 0.2 .:. Channel FAQ at http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/IRC .:. MythTV Wiki http://mythtv.org/wiki/ .:. Use http://pastebin.ca/ .:. US Listings: http://schedulesdirect.org/ .:. | |
| [19:20:54] | Mode for #mythtv-users by xris!n=xris@xris.forevermore.net : -o xris | |
| [19:21:02] | mkrufky: | :-) you're welcome..... and thank YOU ... I know you're involved in that solution |
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| [19:23:11] | fryfrog: | oh, just a name change eh? |
| [19:24:30] | ** psymin grumbles. ** | |
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| [19:32:16] | xris: | fryfrog: yeah... someone (won't mention who) owns "TV Data" trademark |
| [19:32:55] | fryfrog: | ahhhh |
| [19:33:05] | fryfrog: | better to avoid any possible issues, i'd concur for sure |
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| [19:44:42] | peter_: | Hi |
| [19:45:12] | peter_: | Anyone experience with mythfrontend on osx? |
| [19:45:58] | olds: | yea, can't get it to f'ing work |
| [19:46:18] | peter_: | I bought myself an Intel mac mini, it is running but... |
| [19:47:41] | peter_: | output is very blocky, as if I am watching a 150X150 pixels movie |
| [19:48:20] | xris: | peter_: what res recording? |
| [19:48:50] | peter_: | pal 720x576 |
| [19:49:26] | peter_: | looks like it is using a wrong video driver... |
| [19:49:40] | peter_: | cpu is completely pegged |
| [19:50:54] | fryfrog: | why not throw some of the linux on that mac mini? |
| [19:51:08] | peter_: | it is build by osx-packager script |
| [19:51:24] | peter_: | because i want to keep using osx... |
| [19:51:38] | fryfrog: | ah |
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| [19:51:44] | fryfrog: | nothing wrong with that :) |
| [19:51:52] | peter_: | :) |
| [19:52:17] | peter_: | it should be possible though |
| [19:52:36] | peter_: | on mymacbook pro it is running fine! |
| [19:53:14] | chairman: | is it possible to get all the buttons on a hauppauge remote working with the ir_common module (ubuntu feisty) and use it with mythtv or do I have to make a new kernel with a modified ir_common? |
| [19:55:15] | mkrufky: | you dont have to build a whole new kernel, if you want to altar ir_common |
| [19:55:20] | mkrufky: | chairman: ^ |
| [19:55:32] | mkrufky: | chairman: http://linuxtv.org/repo |
| [19:55:46] | mkrufky: | look for the v4l-dvb instructions there |
| [19:57:05] | chairman: | hmm |
| [19:58:41] | chairman: | you mean rebuild the dvb modules? |
| [19:59:19] | mkrufky: | thats how to get the new ir_common without rebuilding the whole kernel |
| [19:59:49] | mkrufky: | it's also the tree that you must use to generate patches against, if you plan on alterung the keymaps for that remot |
| [19:59:56] | mkrufky: | altering |
| [20:00:02] | mkrufky: | grr typos |
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| [20:00:32] | chairman: | is there any tutorial how you should change the keymaps and so on? |
| [20:00:42] | chairman: | that you know about |
| [20:02:09] | mkrufky: | maybe in http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki |
| [20:02:13] | mkrufky: | but google might know better |
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| [20:03:37] | chairman: | If found a tutorial on how you could disable it and use lirc on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288229 |
| [20:04:04] | chairman: | mkrufky: tnx for the help |
| [20:04:24] | chairman: | mkrufky: I will investigate and see what the best solution is |
| [20:05:10] | chairman: | I really want a solution that works even if I update the kernel but you can't get it all |
| [20:05:23] | mkrufky: | heh |
| [20:05:42] | mkrufky: | if you make a patch and submit it to us, then, assuming all it well, it will be included in future kernels |
| [20:05:50] | mkrufky: | s/it/is |
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| [20:07:40] | olds: | peter_:so the osx-packager worked for you? |
| [20:08:39] | ** olds runs it ** | |
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| [20:10:39] | mrdigital: | is there a HCL For mythtv? |
| [20:10:56] | juski: | mrdigital: mythtv isn't compatible with any hardware |
| [20:11:03] | fryfrog: | Hydro Carbon Layer? |
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| [20:11:07] | juski: | it's more a matter of whether or not the hardware you choose works in linux |
| [20:11:10] | mrdigital: | well then V4L?? |
| [20:11:11] | olds: | Hardware Compatibility List |
| [20:11:24] | fryfrog: | oic |
| [20:11:26] | olds: | yea, if it works in linux, it should work in mythtv |
| [20:11:28] | mrdigital: | how can i find if my TV Tuner works |
| [20:11:35] | olds: | what tv tuner is it |
| [20:11:46] | fryfrog: | google for "your card linux" and see what turns up |
| [20:11:56] | juski: | not those exact words though :-P |
| [20:11:56] | chairman: | mkrufky: I wish my programming skill was so good that I could do that |
| [20:12:05] | mrdigital: | Avermedia m150\ |
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| [20:12:17] | olds: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Video_capture_card |
| [20:12:23] | mrdigital: | can i do yum install mythtv? |
| [20:12:32] | olds: | hey look, your card is on that page |
| [20:12:48] | chairman: | when i'm first here. does anyone have any experience with using mythtv in a iptv solution. |
| [20:12:51] | olds: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia_M150-D |
| [20:14:15] | chairman: | hopefully when I move around christmas I can get fiber directly to the house. and they deliver IPTV but I still want to use mythtv and I don't really want to control an external settop box |
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| [20:14:29] | mkrufky: | mrdigital: i believe it is supported |
| [20:14:39] | mkrufky: | chairman: it's not programming, in this case -- |
| [20:14:43] | juski: | mrdigital: you'd better go see a howto guide |
| [20:14:46] | mkrufky: | chairman: give it a try, you'll be surprised |
| [20:14:47] | mrdigital: | ok |
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| [20:15:11] | mkrufky: | chairman: but if lirc supports it, then dont bother — just use lirc |
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| [20:15:59] | fryfrog: | chairman: i don't see how you'd use IPTV w/ MythTV w/o a STB |
| [20:16:12] | olds: | yea, me either |
| [20:16:26] | mrdigital: | olds can i pm you? |
| [20:16:36] | olds: | I don't own your capture card |
| [20:16:45] | olds: | I can't help you set up that card |
| [20:16:47] | chairman: | fryfrog: I don't know, I just read something about IPTV support on the mailinglist |
| [20:16:49] | mrdigital: | i know you dont this isn a diff question |
| [20:16:54] | olds: | just ask here |
| [20:17:11] | chairman: | fryfrog: but it looks like the discussion died out after awhile or something |
| [20:17:17] | mrdigital: | cant but nevermind |
| [20:17:21] | olds: | can't? |
| [20:17:26] | olds: | just msg me then |
| [20:17:47] | olds: | and no, I can't help you get money out of a nigerian bank account |
| [20:17:53] | chairman: | hehe |
| [20:18:17] | fryfrog: | ahahah |
| [20:18:20] | fryfrog: | chairman: ah |
| [20:18:35] | fryfrog: | chairman: i kind of thought IPTV was propriatary, but i don't know *anything* about it |
| [20:18:45] | mrdigital: | olds: get my msg? |
| [20:18:48] | chairman: | fryfrog: some are |
| [20:18:50] | olds: | yep |
| [20:18:53] | olds: | I msg'd you back |
| [20:19:19] | chairman: | fryfrog: but if the provider is one of the good guys it should work |
| [20:19:30] | olds: | did you get my msg? |
| [20:19:46] | chairman: | fryfrog: some iptv solutions works with vlc |
| [20:19:46] | mrdigital: | no |
| [20:19:59] | olds: | have you registered your nickname? |
| [20:22:10] | mkrufky: | you must be registered w nickserv in order to receive pm's from those already registered |
| [20:22:19] | mkrufky: | -and- we have #v4l and #linuxtv for hardware support |
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| [20:49:23] | vfrex: | if ivtv-tune picks up and records channels on the tv tuner successfully, but I can't seem to get the same magic to work in mythtv, where would you suggest I start troubleshooting/looking for errors? |
| [20:51:54] | fryfrog: | line up binding ness |
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| [20:52:49] | vfrex: | hmm |
| [20:55:46] | mkrufky: | vfrex: did it used to work and doesnt anymore? |
| [20:56:30] | vfrex: | no |
| [20:56:36] | vfrex: | never really worked |
| [21:02:07] | mkrufky: | oh :-( |
| [21:02:35] | mkrufky: | well, if you're using the later kernels with ivtv already included, then you'll want to set it up as a v4l2 mpeg encoder |
| [21:02:45] | mkrufky: | the old ivtv api was removed from the driver |
| [21:06:09] | vfrex: | hmm |
| [21:09:53] | vfrex: | oh, it apparently works now |
| [21:09:58] | vfrex: | i should go to work more often... |
| [21:10:27] | mkrufky: | lol |
| [21:10:37] | mkrufky: | well, thats good |
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| [21:11:29] | vfrex: | heh, ok, now i'm gonna jinx it and see if i can get this stuff working through the cable box |
| [21:12:23] | mkrufky: | ok, well good luck |
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| [21:13:14] | vfrex: | thanks man! |
| [21:13:52] | mkrufky: | ok, im out... lata |
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| [21:13:57] | cyrexion: | hey guys, I'm having trouble with my audio output when using MythTV (R5F1) — it appears to be recording audio fine, as I can transfer a capture to another computer and play it back with sound. Playback on the unit itself is actually slow. Any ideas? |
| [21:14:22] | cyrexion: | that is, the playback of the video seems to be < 1x |
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| [21:29:29] | mezoko: | I'm looking for a tv card |
| [21:29:51] | mezoko: | I heard that the hauppauge are usually really good, but I've also heard that I should avoid the MCE seiries |
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| [21:34:13] | hads: | The MCE cards are the same |
| [21:46:54] | mezoko: | oh cool |
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| [21:52:06] | chuk: | I'm having a scheduling problem |
| [21:52:19] | chuk: | I have 2 tuners set up, 1 sat and 1 cable |
| [21:52:40] | chuk: | when I tell it to record Late Night with David Letterman, I tell it to record in this timeslot every day and to prefer the cable input |
| [21:52:56] | chuk: | but it schedules it for both the cable and the sat tuners |
| [21:53:01] | chuk: | when I disable one, it disables both |
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| [21:55:02] | juski: | who the hell is spreading lies that Hauppauge pvr MCE cards are no good for linux? |
| [21:57:06] | ** SiD3WiNDR has a pvr500 mce, working fine :) ** | |
| [21:58:36] | vfrex: | microsoft ;) |
| [22:00:29] | cyrexion: | juski: do you still have that kick ass mythtv theme on your website? if so, what's the link? |
| [22:01:24] | juski: | which one? there are eight kick-ass themes now |
| [22:01:42] | cyrexion: | you have 8 of them ? |
| [22:02:07] | juski: | 6 GUI themes & 2 OSD themes |
| [22:02:27] | juski: | see if you can guess the URL of my website |
| [22:02:32] | cyrexion: | well, in particular, the one with the high quality images associated with the highlighed category — perhaps that's two vague. |
| [22:02:39] | juski: | blootube-wide |
| [22:03:44] | cyrexion: | that's the one... thansk |
| [22:03:51] | cyrexion: | err, s/thansk/thanks |
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| [22:06:14] | nuonguy: | What does this error message mean? "Waiting for Permission to Start Transcoding" |
| [22:06:24] | nuonguy: | I guess it's not an error message |
| [22:07:05] | juski: | maybe, just maybe it means it's waiting for permission to start transcoding. just sticking my neck out there |
| [22:07:07] | nuonguy: | The Rip/Transcode screen seems to have stopped at title 2, leaving that text as screen |
| [22:07:17] | nuonguy: | juski: um, yeah |
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| [22:07:34] | nuonguy: | it seems to have finished two titles well enough and now it seems to have stopped |
| [22:07:51] | nuonguy: | why would it suddenly need permission? |
| [22:07:55] | nuonguy: | too many jobs going? |
| [22:08:04] | cyrexion: | juski: you apparently have knowledge as to how MythTV operates. When I record shows, all of them have a name of "Unknown" — is there a way I can rename this? |
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| [22:30:32] | Mr__Grieves: | Has anyone managed to use imdbpy.py to get tv episode info? It's giving me hell... |
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| [22:33:03] | warlord: | Hey, I've got a couple recordings (all SD off digital cable with a PCHD3k) that have sound when played through myth but when I download the transport stream and play with mplayer I have no audio. |
| [22:33:29] | warlord: | ffmpeg reports TWO audio streams, but mplayer still has no audio regardless of which stream I attempt to play. |
| [22:33:43] | warlord: | I've tried using kplayer, and it has no audio. |
| [22:33:53] | warlord: | (other programs are fine; just a few have this issue) |
| [22:35:33] | HaSH is now known as Kernel | |
| [22:35:39] | warlord: | any ideas/suggestions? |
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| [22:41:47] | xris: | warlord: lucky that you get unencrypted SD.... |
| [22:42:28] | warlord: | xris: RCN is great! I even get 1080i and 720p through my STB firewire.. |
| [22:42:45] | warlord: | anyways, it's weird; it doesn't seem to be consistent. |
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| [22:42:57] | warlord: | I'm happy to put a 20MB snippet up on the web for someone.. |
| [22:43:30] | xris: | warlord: I get everything over firewire.. but the actual QAM signal is encrypted, so I still have to pay for a cable box. |
| [22:43:35] | xris: | no idea on your audio issue, btw. |
| [22:44:26] | warlord: | Some of my QAM is encrypted, but very little. |
| [22:44:53] | warlord: | Could you take a look at the TS? |
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| [22:46:03] | warlord: | http://www.ihtfp.org/TDS-test.mpg |
| [22:46:42] | warlord: | ffmpeg reports one video stream and two audio streams. |
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| [22:47:42] | warlord: | OOh, I was wrong. |
| [22:47:56] | warlord: | mplayer CAN choose the correct audio stream. |
| [22:48:30] | warlord: | Using this command gives me audio: mplayer -aid 116 TDS-test.mpg |
| [22:48:45] | warlord: | So now I get to figure out how to handle this in an automated function |
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| [22:54:30] | warlord: | HMM.. looking at a 'good' vs. 'bad' file, both have two audio streams.. How do I figure out which is the "correct" audio stream to use? |
| [22:54:34] | xris: | warlord: sorry, emergency stuff going on at work, no time. |
| [22:54:49] | warlord: | (or, how to I tell mencoder to keep both streams?) |
| [22:56:01] | warlord: | xris: NP. |
| [22:56:14] | xris: | I know that myth sucks when it comes to dual-audio stuff, too |
| [23:00:23] | warlord: | Well, myth seems to be getting it right.. |
| [23:00:27] | warlord: | mencoder isn't |
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| [23:11:26] | warlord: | Ahh, I think I see what's going on. mencoder chooses the first stream it sees, which might NOT be "audio stream 0.1" |
| [23:11:48] | warlord: | I've apparently just been VERY LUCKY. |
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| [23:23:44] | warlord: | Okay, gotta run. I think I've got a solution. BBL. |
| [23:23:51] | warlord: | thanks for listening, xris |
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| [23:33:59] | olds: | so I just got done compiling mythfrontend on my macbook pro |
| [23:34:04] | olds: | I checked out trunk |
| [23:34:15] | olds: | but the protocol version compiled is 31 |
| [23:34:30] | olds: | not 34 |
| [23:35:31] | olds: | anyone know why? |
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| [23:47:13] | olds: | guess not |
| [23:47:35] | fysa: | did you recompile the backend too? |
| [23:48:03] | olds: | my backend is protocol version 34 |
| [23:48:08] | olds: | on a seperate machine |
| [23:48:17] | olds: | it is also trunk, compiled about a week ago |
| [23:48:25] | fysa: | svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv |
| [23:48:26] | fysa: | svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/myththemes |
| [23:48:28] | fysa: | svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythplugins |
| [23:48:28] | olds: | right |
| [23:48:45] | fysa: | interesting. |
| [23:48:56] | fysa: | hey, did you have any issues compiling it? |
| [23:49:01] | olds: | nope |
| [23:49:07] | fysa: | I had to use a prepackaged version a while back. |
| [23:49:16] | olds: | lemme try one thing |
| [23:49:21] | fysa: | haven't tried compiling on OS X lately.. |
| [23:49:27] | fysa: | how are you launching the app? |
| [23:49:36] | fysa: | maybe you have an old version lying around in $PATH somewhere or something? |
| [23:50:12] | olds: | yea, that's what it was |
| [23:50:28] | olds: | I had some old prepackaged version in my Application folder |
| [23:50:34] | olds: | now things are better |
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| [23:50:45] | olds: | thx |
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| [23:54:12] | my2keh: | hey anyone use harmoney remote? |
| [23:54:24] | my2keh: | err harmony |
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| [23:58:01] | my2keh: | guess no! |
| [23:58:08] | my2keh: | err damn can't type tonight |
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