| Sunday, July 1st, 2007, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:28] | dwbell: | mythtv is having trouble playing audio on a few files downloaded with bashpodder. |
| [00:00:55] | dwbell: | Happens on both myth boxes, yet sound is fine if I use another program to watch. |
| [00:01:19] | dwbell: | output of file is: ./hak5--2x10--xvid.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 640 x 480, ~30 fps, video: XviD, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 24000 Hz) |
| [00:01:33] | dwbell: | any ideas? |
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| [00:36:36] | tank-man: | what is bashpodder? |
| [00:44:01] | dwbell: | a script to download podcasts using wget. I have it set to download video podcasts to /recordings and I rebuild the database once in a while |
| [00:44:50] | dwbell: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BashPodder |
| [00:47:31] | tank-man: | does it play in mplayer ? |
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| [00:51:58] | dwbell: | plays in mplayer, totem, kaffiene even amarok will play the audio |
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| [00:53:16] | dwbell: | I've had this happen with other video podcasts, but always with h.264 encoded video, this one is giving me trouble as xvid |
| [00:54:52] | Captain_Murdoch: | posting an error message or a pastebin link to the "-v playback" logs might be helpful to someone. |
| [00:58:22] | dwbell: | Captain_Murdoch: fairly new to myth, where would I find playback logs? |
| [00:59:13] | Captain_Murdoch: | depends on your distribution. you'll have to check the script that starts mythfrontend to see if they are even turned on. if not, then close mythfrontend and just run it manually from a terminal window. "mythfrontend -v playback | tee audio_problem.log" |
| [01:00:12] | dwbell: | thanks |
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| [01:10:02] | dwbell: | Ok, started mythfronted with that command, ran the file for a few seconds and this was the output: |
| [01:10:10] | dwbell: | http://www.darylbell.com/audio_problem.log |
| [01:11:12] | dwbell: | sorry if this isn't proper protacol for posting this type of thing, I'm unfamiliar with pastebin. |
| [01:12:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | no problem.... pastebin is easy, just go to the page, paste your log in the box and submit. it will give you a link which you can give to others to see your file. |
| [01:12:49] | kevin1: | I am attempting to edit a recording and add cut points, I then transcode it and when I leave the program and come back they are back to default and what I edited is not saved.. How can I get it to save the edits? |
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| [01:15:05] | Captain_Murdoch: | dwbell: looks like there is no video in that file, just audio. is that correct? |
| [01:15:31] | Captain_Murdoch: | if so, then mythfrontend can't play it because it is only setup to play files with both. |
| [01:16:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | no one has spent the time to get mythfrontend to be able to play files with just audio. |
| [01:17:12] | dwbell: | testing, I think the offending portion is here: http://pastebin.ca/598083 |
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| [01:17:35] | dwbell: | Captain_Murdoch: no it is audio and video, myth plays the video but not the audio |
| [01:18:22] | dwbell: | I noticed one error mess. recommended running mythcommflag --file 1043_20070630180000.mpg |
| [01:18:53] | dwbell: | running that did give errors saying "[mpeg2video @ 0xb71f22e8]warning: first frame is no keyframe" |
| [01:21:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | 2007-06–30 18:02:15.622 AudioOutput Error: Unable to set ALSA parameters |
| [01:21:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | 2007-06–30 18:02:15.623 NVP: Disabling Audio, reason is: Unable to set ALSA parameters |
| [01:22:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | do any recordings play with audio? |
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| [01:23:52] | dwbell: | Yes, everything recorded with myth plays fine, and all other xvids I've downloaded play fine with audio |
| [01:28:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | maybe that 56000 bitrate then. not sure. |
| [01:28:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | not an alsa expert. |
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| [01:29:42] | mistone: | I want to add a menu item that launchs a program how do I do that? |
| [01:29:54] | dwbell: | running mythcommflag now if it still has a problem, I'll move on. Thanks for your help. |
| [01:30:14] | Captain_Murdoch: | think it's <ACTION>EXEC /my/program.sh</ACTION> or something like that. |
| [01:30:28] | mistone: | ok |
| [01:30:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | look at how it calls mythbrowser, I think that's an external application |
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| [01:32:27] | dwbell: | no joy with mythcommflag, I'll delete the file and hope that's the last of it. |
| [01:33:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, it wouldnt' fix this issue. |
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| [01:45:48] | Lunar_Lamp: | Hmm, when I type "eject" on the command line my dvd drive ejects a DVD fine, yet from within mythtv it does not work. How can I resolve this? |
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| [02:21:48] | kambei: | I was just wondering, with the closing of zap2it, is there a plan of contingency in place? This has probably been asked a lot, I would guess. |
| [02:23:00] | Chicago: | Probably we need to code against the TV Guide data instead.... it's too bad Tribune Media Services doesn't want to be a party to the OS Community. |
| [02:24:02] | kambei: | Do you imagine that a solution will be in place in the required frame of time? |
| [02:24:36] | Chicago: | no, I don't. |
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| [02:25:12] | kambei: | I see. |
| [02:25:30] | Chicago: | Some company is ultimately going to have open RSS feeds for it as long as they will be wanting to distribute media centers... so eventually we'll find a public provider. |
| [02:25:49] | kambei: | Is there something I can do to help? |
| [02:25:57] | Captain_Murdoch: | some solution will be in place, what it is is still yet to be determined. the devs are working on it. |
| [02:25:59] | phlegm: | Hey myth people. My backend just crashed and now I'm getting sql errors. Any idea on how to fix this error? QL Error: Can't open file: 'oldrecorded.MYI' |
| [02:26:32] | kambei: | phlegm: There are some various contrib scripts that correct some DB-related issues. |
| [02:27:19] | phlegm: | myth.rebuilddatabase.pl ?? Will it lose my current data? |
| [02:28:05] | kambei: | I'm not certain, I think I have used optimize_mythdb.pl |
| [02:28:08] | phlegm: | optimize_mythdb.pl looks better... |
| [02:28:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | optimize_mythdb.pl it runs "repair table" |
| [02:28:09] | kambei: | I can't recall. |
| [02:28:13] | phlegm: | :) |
| [02:29:11] | phlegm: | Fixed.... :) |
| [02:29:17] | kambei: | Good. |
| [02:34:05] | kevin1: | I am attempting to edit a recording and add cut points, I then transcode it and when I leave the program and come back they are back to default and what I edited is not saved.. How can I get it to save the edits? |
| [02:34:54] | Captain_Murdoch: | use 'M' to exit that screen, not ESCape. |
| [02:35:44] | kevin1: | thank you will give it a try |
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| [03:07:11] | ** jroysdon wonders how places like http://www.tv-now.com/thegrids.htm?Zip= get their guide data (they say TV Guide, but under what license?) ** | |
| [03:08:47] | jroysdon: | Wow, they just put a section of TVGuide's website right in their website... |
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| [03:14:34] | justdave: | when I do "s" for the onscreen show listings, it seems to get stuck in a loop |
| [03:14:37] | justdave: | looks from appearance like it's crashing over and over again (screen flashes quickly then blank for a bit, and the only way to get out is to ssh in and kill mythfrontend and restart it) |
| [03:14:46] | justdave: | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/112773 is the chunk of the log that keeps repeating over and over |
| [03:14:56] | justdave: | anyone have any clues which of those messages is the actual problem? |
| [03:15:03] | justdave: | or what to do to help debug it? |
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| [05:33:10] | Treito: | hello |
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| [05:53:08] | Tanthrix: | Well that was a damn good ending to series 3 of the new Doctor Who |
| [05:53:16] | ** Tanthrix has to find something to do for the next 6 months now ** | |
| [05:53:53] | mchou: | bah |
| [05:54:22] | mchou: | You can always wath Tour de France |
| [05:54:28] | mchou: | watch* |
| [05:54:59] | mchou: | that would keep you plenty occuppied |
| [05:55:27] | mchou: | not to mention the dope! |
| [05:55:49] | Tanthrix: | Nah, not my thing. Watching sports of any kind is tedious at best. |
| [05:56:11] | mchou: | lol |
| [05:56:27] | mchou: | like Dr. Who isnt tedious...... |
| [05:56:34] | mchou: | gimme a break |
| [05:59:36] | Treito: | anybody of you (two) using lastest svn and mythdvd? |
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| [06:00:12] | mchou: | Treito: nope, not me |
| [06:01:08] | Treito: | the frontend crashes with a segfault, i don't know why, there has to be a system |
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| [06:12:57] | denon: | odd question, but have any of you interfaced myth as a front-end to a beyondtv media server? |
| [06:13:14] | denon: | with regards to having it pull file locations and episode details from btv |
| [06:15:41] | Treito: | look at the documentation |
| [06:18:40] | juski: | oh man. last thing I needed was to get home at this early hour |
| [06:18:46] | mchou: | denon: dude, stop wasting your time with btv |
| [06:19:27] | juski: | mythtv frontends can mostly, nay _only_ be front ends for.. mythtv backends. not MCE backends & certainlynot beyondtv |
| [06:20:05] | mchou: | juski: that wasnt what he asked |
| [06:20:11] | denon: | well, I've coded some nice tools for btv that would be a pain to give up |
| [06:20:18] | mchou: | denon: lol |
| [06:20:19] | denon: | I could rewrite them for myth, but there's not much point |
| [06:20:29] | Treito: | stupid question but what is btv?! |
| [06:20:36] | denon: | beyondtv |
| [06:20:48] | denon: | btv does what I need — was just hoping to add some pxe booted clients with myth |
| [06:20:54] | juski: | no dice, not gonna happen |
| [06:21:06] | juski: | mythtv all or nothing, ya boo, etc etc etc |
| [06:21:17] | denon: | spose |
| [06:21:26] | denon: | I could pxe boot CE for that matter, I guess |
| [06:21:31] | juski: | you _could_ probably fudge it, but it'd be exactly that – a fudge |
| [06:21:55] | denon: | could re-visit myth, just kinda a hassle to see if it does everything the way you want it again :) |
| [06:21:58] | mchou: | why anyone want's to use prioprietary crap in this day and age is beyond me :) |
| [06:22:07] | juski: | besides, mythtv has a really powerful backend with a superb scheduler, beyond anything else as far as I know |
| [06:22:09] | mchou: | get it? beyondme |
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| [06:22:15] | mchou: | :) |
| [06:22:15] | Treito: | juski: do you use mythtv-svn? |
| [06:22:16] | denon: | mchou: what's proprietary about btv? it's all in xml files, and an extensive api to do whatever I want |
| [06:22:24] | mchou: | denon: lol |
| [06:22:25] | juski: | Treito: on my test/dev box yes |
| [06:22:40] | mchou: | you think an API is "open?" |
| [06:22:45] | Treito: | juski: what abou the internal dvd-player? it works? |
| [06:22:52] | denon: | no, I didnt say it was open .. |
| [06:22:53] | mchou: | denon: you must work for MSFT |
| [06:23:03] | Tanthrix: | denon: mchou is a troll. Ignore him. Seriously. Walk away. |
| [06:23:08] | denon: | no .. in fact I have about 80% 'nix (bsd) in our datacenters |
| [06:23:12] | mchou: | that's their definition of "open" |
| [06:23:17] | denon: | hah, thanks Tanthrix. |
| [06:23:20] | juski: | spose if you bought beyondtv you're likely gonna want to get your $$$ worth |
| [06:23:42] | denon: | juski: nah, Ive been using it for several years, have gotten my money's worth :) |
| [06:23:46] | mchou: | like Tantrix know wtf he is talking about |
| [06:23:53] | denon: | I really didn't come into to start a platform war.. |
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| [06:24:00] | denon: | er in here to.. |
| [06:24:02] | samesame: | mythtv rules |
| [06:24:06] | juski: | be much easier to just migrate to mythtv I reckon |
| [06:24:14] | squidly: | how do I tell mythlcdserver to not restart all the time? |
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| [06:24:38] | Tanthrix: | Hrm, my firewire setup seems to be getting more unreliable by the week. I wonder if they've 5C-ed some more channels lately |
| [06:24:41] | juski: | you could probably just set up a cron job to automagically import beyondtv recordings, but you're in messy territory there |
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| [06:24:50] | denon: | juski: perhaps .. Ive just grown lazy, the btv server purrs away without having to be touched |
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| [06:24:51] | Tanthrix: | When the gf finishes the daily show I'll have to go check the regulars again |
| [06:25:03] | juski: | and you'd still have to figure out how to get mythtv to schedule recordings from beyondtv |
| [06:25:15] | juski: | hardly ideal! |
| [06:25:27] | Tanthrix: | Should probably just cancel my subscription, I'm only recording a few things here and there on my super special extra HD channels |
| [06:25:27] | denon: | juski: there a clean way to aggregate lots of sources, and display them in lists by show or folder? |
| [06:25:38] | mchou: | yeah, it's called rdp |
| [06:25:42] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:25:52] | mchou: | hardly rocket science |
| [06:25:59] | mchou: | use vnc if you have to |
| [06:26:08] | denon: | ? |
| [06:26:25] | Treito: | i get segfaults when watching DVD, depending on the DVD on the same time code, but it differs with every DVD, any idea? |
| [06:26:33] | samesame: | one day i might build a ultra-quiet compact, small front end only |
| [06:26:40] | mchou: | if btv was really open you'd be able to grab all the listing descriptions and whatnot |
| [06:26:45] | juski: | mythtv isn't hot at aggregating lots of anything other than its own recordings |
| [06:26:48] | denon: | mchou: you can |
| [06:27:02] | mchou: | denon: so what is the problem? |
| [06:27:09] | denon: | juski: ah, see most of this is stuff Ive captured and cleaned up, or ripped from my own dvds etc |
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| [06:27:35] | juski: | mythvideo is what you'd use for playing existing media files |
| [06:27:42] | denon: | juski: I record very little new stuff .. I mostly need a media player, not so much cap |
| [06:27:44] | samesame: | is it possible to boot a mythtv front end using a usb stick with linux? |
| [06:27:45] | juski: | the er.. video plugin |
| [06:27:53] | denon: | just a nice way to organize media from lots of source |
| [06:27:56] | mchou: | samesame: yup |
| [06:28:08] | samesame: | excellent |
| [06:28:15] | denon: | samesame: afaik ,you can do it via pxe as well – no need to burn up read/writes on a usb thumb even |
| [06:28:18] | samesame: | my front end will have no HD, just a usb stick |
| [06:28:24] | juski: | denon: if all you want is a dumb media player, mythtv ain't really for you |
| [06:28:48] | samesame: | what is a pxe? |
| [06:28:49] | juski: | I'd recommend Elisa to you if it wasn't a closed source PoS that doesn't even play MPEG2 out of the box |
| [06:29:05] | juski: | but seen as it is.. ;) |
| [06:29:10] | denon: | samesame: it boots off the network, then pulls the image of the OS/software/etc from a server |
| [06:29:12] | denon: | and loads it into ram |
| [06:29:22] | samesame: | i see |
| [06:29:23] | denon: | so all your need is mobo/cpu/ram/video :) |
| [06:29:26] | denon: | no usb |
| [06:29:36] | denon: | well, and ethernet :) |
| [06:29:43] | juski: | unless you want to use wireless without a bridge |
| [06:29:45] | mchou: | good luck with swap |
| [06:29:54] | Tanthrix: | juski: By any chance do you know of any simple lirc compatible OSD file browsers? (IE, something like mythvideo in file browse mode with no meta data) |
| [06:30:02] | juski: | nope |
| [06:30:14] | Tanthrix: | Seems like all the ones that are out there are huge and bloated, like freevo |
| [06:30:15] | juski: | jees you guys are hard work this morning. I should go to bed or something |
| [06:30:31] | denon: | myth works fine via pxe, from what I've heard |
| [06:30:49] | juski: | a frontend without a backend is umm.. fairly impotent :-P |
| [06:30:56] | mchou: | sure myth works with pxe |
| [06:31:12] | juski: | and you still need a mysql server to store all the metadata |
| [06:31:15] | mchou: | that aint the issue. having massive amounts of ram is |
| [06:31:39] | mchou: | at least enough ram not to ever swap |
| [06:32:01] | samesame: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment |
| [06:32:26] | juski: | my 512MB frontend does ok without swap, though not with blootube-wide ;) |
| [06:32:37] | juski: | crashy! |
| [06:32:43] | achew22: | in mythdora whats the init scrpt for x called? |
| [06:32:48] | denon: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Diskless_Frontend |
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| [06:33:45] | mchou: | achew22: startx? :) |
| [06:33:57] | samesame: | is it possible to get a mythfront to PXE boot its OS from a seperate mythbackend? |
| [06:34:01] | achew22: | when I pkill X it restarts automatically |
| [06:34:12] | mchou: | samesame: yup |
| [06:34:15] | denon: | samesame: anything can be the "pxe server", it's just tftp and some dhcp options |
| [06:34:15] | achew22: | I just want to stop it so I can play with the file |
| [06:34:35] | mchou: | samesame: can boot from anywhere you designate with tftp |
| [06:34:38] | juski: | ffs where has all the irc etiquette gone? you don't just msg people you don't know ffs |
| [06:34:57] | denon: | hah |
| [06:35:03] | mchou: | juski: stfu |
| [06:35:11] | samesame: | denon: how do u tell a computer to boot its OS from over the network? are there options in the BIOS? |
| [06:35:11] | denon: | yeah, see thats why :) |
| [06:35:19] | denon: | samesame: the lan card has to support PXE |
| [06:35:21] | denon: | most do |
| [06:35:36] | juski: | mchou: being an asshat as usual I see. and folks say I do the channel no favours |
| [06:35:47] | mchou: | samesame: nah, you tell dhcp server where to look for tftp (server) |
| [06:35:50] | denon: | the bios will probably have an option for onboard lan cards to boot pxe first |
| [06:35:57] | samesame: | interesting, that means u can have a mythtv front end with no HD, no USB Stick |
| [06:36:03] | denon: | no mchou, the nic bios has to boot pxe |
| [06:36:10] | denon: | THEN it pulls the lease, and gets the tftp data |
| [06:36:12] | mchou: | denon: dont be a fool |
| [06:36:18] | denon: | then it can get the image to boot |
| [06:36:37] | denon: | mchou: I've deployed thousands of pxe boot workstations, don't be a dork |
| [06:36:40] | samesame: | on my mythbackend server, id need to run some special PXE server software? |
| [06:37:04] | mchou: | denon: lol, big deal. I work in clustering at intel and on PXE itself |
| [06:37:10] | Tanthrix: | denon: You're not taking my advice, I see. |
| [06:37:23] | denon: | Tanthrix: no, but I'm growing fond of AMD |
| [06:37:39] | Tanthrix: | AMD? |
| [06:37:45] | denon: | mchou works at Intel :) |
| [06:37:52] | Tanthrix: | Ahh, I see. |
| [06:37:57] | ** denon snickers ** | |
| [06:38:15] | mchou: | denon: dont be an idiot. working at intel doesnt mean all my machines are intel |
| [06:38:31] | denon: | good grief, if I have to explain my sarcasm .. |
| [06:38:43] | Tanthrix: | hehe |
| [06:38:45] | denon: | I'm saying I'm growing fond of AMD, because I now know a bit more about the people at Intel. |
| [06:39:35] | denon: | anyway, juski thanks for the info .. Tanthrix thanks for advice, pity I didn't take it |
| [06:39:44] | mchou: | denon: right. you know the quality of intel ppl based on a sample of 1 |
| [06:39:45] | denon: | think I'll bail and stick with what works |
| [06:40:01] | Tanthrix: | NP. |
| [06:40:15] | Tanthrix: | Doing my part to fight internet trolls since 1996. |
| [06:40:23] | mchou: | Tanthrix: STFU |
| [06:40:28] | denon: | pity DDoSs are so illegal |
| [06:40:41] | mchou: | Tanthrix: you're being a total pest |
| [06:41:04] | mchou: | accusing me of trolling when you are being a total jerk |
| [06:41:12] | Tanthrix: | juski: So how did your shirts turn out? |
| [06:41:25] | denon: | <mchou> oh, whoops .. that's a mirror |
| [06:41:30] | ** denon snickers ** | |
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| [06:41:52] | mchou: | what a total asshat |
| [06:42:31] | mchou: | some frigging winblows luser coming in here asking if myth interoperates with btv |
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| [06:42:55] | mchou: | why doesnt btv work with myth? |
| [06:42:57] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:45:00] | samesame: | hi guys. is there a way to get my myth front end work with my tivo box? |
| [06:45:27] | mchou: | haha! |
| [06:45:43] | mchou: | samesame: you tring to get a rise outta me here? |
| [06:46:18] | mchou: | trying* |
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| [06:55:31] | samesame: | the only downside of using pxe to boot a os from a mythbackend is that it will cause more HD usage, but if i put 2x HDs in my mythbackend that shouldnt be a issue |
| [06:56:13] | mchou: | nah, HD usage really isnt the problem |
| [06:56:32] | samesame: | what is the problem then? |
| [06:56:53] | mchou: | it's the fact you have tof configure the separate images that gets to be the real PITA |
| [06:57:06] | mchou: | to* |
| [06:57:22] | samesame: | plus there will be a lot of stuff going through ethernet, jamming the network |
| [06:57:39] | samesame: | video + audio + HD data |
| [06:57:46] | mchou: | no, network jamming is not the issue |
| [06:57:51] | samesame: | ok |
| [06:58:05] | mchou: | at least not on a wired network |
| [06:58:15] | samesame: | it will be wired, i dislike wireless |
| [06:58:36] | samesame: | wireless is for the lazy folk who cant be bothered to plug in |
| [06:58:44] | DMJC-L: | also for people who have laptopd |
| [06:58:47] | DMJC-L: | *laptops |
| [06:59:06] | samesame: | a laptop using wireless = a insecure laptop using wireless |
| [06:59:11] | DMJC-L: | you don't want cables going into laptops |
| [06:59:16] | mchou: | at this unless you have a lot of rooms and TVs in your house, I'd recommend going with disk because it will save a lot of configuration headaches |
| [06:59:18] | DMJC-L: | it's a quick way to bust your cable ports |
| [06:59:36] | samesame: | ok |
| [06:59:42] | DMJC-L: | also laptops with WPA2, Vlans and mac address filtering are reasonably secure |
| [07:00:10] | samesame: | im pretty sure my next door neighbour is a blackhat so i cant take that rest |
| [07:00:22] | mchou: | diskless works, but you need a full time job as an admin for your house |
| [07:01:30] | mchou: | and unless you enjoy booting *many* times to test out your configuration, it really is no fun at all |
| [07:01:34] | DMJC-L: | flash card + hdds for storage |
| [07:01:54] | DMJC-L: | boot of card, disable writing to it once your config is sweet |
| [07:02:23] | DMJC-L: | fun stuff |
| [07:02:30] | DMJC-L: | usb boot is easy too |
| [07:03:31] | mchou: | hmm, watermelon..... |
| [07:03:38] | mchou: | ambrosia of the gods |
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| [07:04:34] | mchou: | only thing that comes close to beating that on a hot summer day would be strawberry lemonade |
| [07:04:44] | ShockValue: | mmmm lemonade :) |
| [07:04:56] | mchou: | no, STRAWBERRY lemonade |
| [07:05:07] | DMJC-L: | mm.. |
| [07:05:10] | mchou: | with real strawberries |
| [07:05:17] | mchou: | not the artificial crap |
| [07:06:02] | mchou: | I hate it when restaurants serve the artificial stuff |
| [07:06:05] | ShockValue: | is there someway to tell if a HD channel is being encrypted? (firewire dct6200). Many of my HD channels have quit working suddenly |
| [07:06:40] | mchou: | ShockValue: yup. it's called the maintenence menu on your dct |
| [07:07:01] | ** ShockValue looks confused ** | |
| [07:07:14] | mchou: | ShockValue: goole is your friend |
| [07:07:18] | mchou: | google* |
| [07:07:19] | ShockValue: | yep, kk |
| [07:09:17] | mchou: | the menu will tell you if 5C is on for the program/channel |
| [07:10:12] | mchou: | ShockValue: you live in the same area as xris? |
| [07:10:37] | mchou: | ShockValue: if so ask him if his HDTV channels have gone 5C |
| [07:10:53] | ShockValue: | yeah, 10 miles away as the crow flies, but technically in a different zone |
| [07:11:53] | ShockValue: | gonna be quite cranky if they've gone 5c. there's no way around that is there? |
| [07:12:07] | mchou: | not really |
| [07:12:20] | mchou: | could be buggy firmware though |
| [07:12:32] | mchou: | i.e. not really 5C but buggy firmware |
| [07:12:33] | xris: | mchou: over qam, encrypted. over firewire, no |
| [07:12:54] | ShockValue: | it's been running perfectly for almost a year, and now HD barfs myth |
| [07:13:04] | mchou: | xris: how about the OTA channels over quam? |
| [07:13:10] | mchou: | qam* |
| [07:13:11] | xris: | mchou: those are all there |
| [07:13:17] | mchou: | xris: cool |
| [07:13:21] | xris: | but only those |
| [07:13:21] | ShockValue: | xris – so your HD is still running OK? |
| [07:13:29] | xris: | checking |
| [07:13:43] | mchou: | ShockValue: seriously, check the dct menus for what it says |
| [07:14:00] | ShockValue: | i first noticed it with the PBS HD channels (108, 112 if they're the same for you) |
| [07:14:11] | ShockValue: | mchou: yeah ill do that, just googling how |
| [07:14:17] | mchou: | ShockValue: PBS should always be in the clear |
| [07:14:43] | mchou: | ShockValue: if not report your cable franchise to fcc |
| [07:14:48] | xris: | discoveryhd coming in clear |
| [07:15:26] | mchou: | ShockValue: there should be no reason for cableco to turn on 5C for PBS |
| [07:15:44] | ShockValue: | well good, maybe its just my setup being screwed up then for somereason |
| [07:15:48] | ShockValue: | which is fixable :) |
| [07:15:53] | mchou: | ShockValue: so I'd say something is wrong on your end rather than cableco :) |
| [07:16:23] | ShockValue: | but im totally missing austin city limits in HD until i get it working.. |
| [07:16:29] | ShockValue: | that and pissing off my wife :) |
| [07:16:33] | mchou: | haha |
| [07:16:43] | xris: | ShockValue: where are you located? |
| [07:16:47] | mchou: | that means you get sex every night, right? :) |
| [07:17:24] | ShockValue: | lol i wish. im about 1 month away from being a dad |
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| [07:17:35] | ShockValue: | xris – bremerton |
| [07:17:38] | mchou: | ShockValue: lol. TMI :) |
| [07:18:01] | xris: | ShockValue: ah, yeah, different channel lineups, etc. |
| [07:18:36] | mchou: | ShockValue: interesting that you get served by a different headend than xris when you're only 10 miles away |
| [07:19:07] | ShockValue: | big chunk of water between us |
| [07:19:14] | mchou: | hmm, ok |
| [07:19:34] | xris: | mchou: different county, etc. |
| [07:19:44] | ShockValue: | like this one: http://www.deadpla.net/1.jpg |
| [07:20:05] | mchou: | what is that, Mt. hood? |
| [07:20:18] | ShockValue: | raineer |
| [07:20:23] | mchou: | ok |
| [07:20:47] | xris: | ShockValue: water, a few islands, etc.. heh |
| [07:21:13] | ShockValue: | yeah, if i could sink Bainbridge, i'd have a spectacular view of Downtown Seattle :) |
| [07:21:26] | mchou: | lol |
| [07:21:36] | ShockValue: | of course my taxes would skyrocket |
| [07:21:39] | xris: | ShockValue: wonder if that actually counts as an island. |
| [07:21:41] | mchou: | ShockValue: careful, NSA is listening |
| [07:21:47] | mchou: | :) |
| [07:22:04] | xris: | kind of wish I could live over on that side of the water. |
| [07:22:25] | xris: | poulsbo is nice |
| [07:22:33] | mchou: | ShockValue: dont wanna talk like that just at this moment when UK is in the shitter |
| [07:22:50] | ShockValue: | UK not doing good ? :( |
| [07:23:05] | ShockValue: | yeah i like poulsbo, i work up there often |
| [07:23:15] | mchou: | 3 cars in 2 days, you tell me :) |
| [07:24:01] | k-man: | anyone here use sdlmame with mythtv? |
| [07:24:10] | mchou: | Blair appointment to quartet must really have the Palestinians and Al Quaeda pissed |
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| [07:24:23] | samesame: | k-man: i do |
| [07:24:43] | k-man: | samesame, do you use lirc to quit mame after playing it |
| [07:24:44] | k-man: | ? |
| [07:24:53] | samesame: | k-man: yes |
| [07:24:57] | ShockValue: | damn it, ok i got the instructs on how to check for 5c. now the hard part is finding the remotes for those boxes :D |
| [07:24:59] | k-man: | samesame, how do you do it? |
| [07:25:20] | samesame: | k-man: u need to make sure mame activates lirc |
| [07:25:22] | xris: | I wonder if the EIT data comes over in the clear for encrypted channels |
| [07:25:32] | k-man: | samesame, how do I do that |
| [07:25:34] | k-man: | ? |
| [07:25:40] | k-man: | sdlmame has lirc support? |
| [07:25:45] | samesame: | k-man: yes |
| [07:25:54] | samesame: | its in the mame options |
| [07:25:57] | k-man: | samesame, please elighten me |
| [07:26:03] | mchou: | xris: is eit embedded in the mpeg stream? |
| [07:26:11] | k-man: | samesame, mame options? where? |
| [07:26:14] | samesame: | i cant remember off the top of my head but there is a option to use a lirc config file |
| [07:26:21] | samesame: | its a mame option |
| [07:26:25] | samesame: | [option] |
| [07:26:31] | mchou: | xris: if so, then it's probably encrypted |
| [07:27:02] | samesame: | k-man: IIRC mame uses ASCII character codes so u need to look those up and put those in your lirc config file |
| [07:27:19] | k-man: | samesame, um.... can you show me your config please? |
| [07:27:26] | samesame: | i cant im not at home at the moment |
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| [07:27:43] | k-man: | samesame, ok |
| [07:28:28] | xris: | mchou: would be nice to get access to the same listings data that the comcast boxes get |
| [07:28:40] | samesame: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_MythGame_0.18 |
| [07:28:50] | k-man: | samesame, are you sure you are doing with sdlmame? cos afaict, there is no support for lirc in sdlmame |
| [07:28:56] | mchou: | xris: you mean channel 2? :) |
| [07:29:16] | mchou: | xris: I'm not sure that's EIT |
| [07:29:34] | xris: | mchou: channel 2 is a real channel for me |
| [07:29:36] | samesame: | k-man: maybe its x-mame im using then |
| [07:29:45] | k-man: | samesame, yeah, i think it might be |
| [07:29:47] | mchou: | in fact I'm not even so sure EIT is "passed" thru firewire |
| [07:29:54] | samesame: | why dont u use xmame? |
| [07:29:54] | xris: | mchou: I doubt it is |
| [07:30:00] | xris: | but I just care about the data |
| [07:30:01] | xris: | .. |
| [07:30:04] | Treito: | hello xris |
| [07:30:33] | k-man: | samesame, there's some bug with it where it won't play fullscreen |
| [07:30:35] | xris: | then again.. it works out better in the long run if people just start paying for listings. |
| [07:30:47] | mchou: | sigh..... |
| [07:30:50] | xris: | hopefully we'll be able to announce something in the next couple of weeks |
| [07:30:51] | Treito: | i'm looking for a competent person helping me with mythdvd ;-) |
| [07:31:09] | samesame: | k-man: u need to set a few options to make it go full screen automatically, mine works ok |
| [07:31:20] | mchou: | xris: bah, I think coupla weeks is optimistic |
| [07:31:32] | ShockValue: | allright, thanks for the help ya'll. be back tomorrow with a new issue :) |
| [07:31:34] | xris: | mchou: for an announcement? |
| [07:31:47] | mchou: | xris: business decisions never proceed that fast |
| [07:32:02] | mchou: | ShockValue: so is 5C on or off? |
| [07:32:09] | xris: | implementation will take awhile, but we should have info hopefully by the end of this week, and hopefully be able to make it public shortly after that |
| [07:32:29] | ShockValue: | i dunno, i cant get into it right now.. im gonna have to tear apart the basement to find the remote and hook up a TV to the box |
| [07:32:36] | ShockValue: | and the wife is sleepin :) |
| [07:32:54] | mchou: | xris: really? that would really surprise me, consider 4th of July and all that..... |
| [07:33:00] | ShockValue: | but i have a good starting point for tomorrow |
| [07:33:26] | ShockValue: | xris: any hints? (like do i have to pay money?) :) |
| [07:33:31] | mchou: | ShockValue: dude, you dont need to hook the TV up to a box to get to the menu |
| [07:33:38] | ShockValue: | oh no? |
| [07:33:45] | xris: | ShockValue: it'll have to be for-pay at first |
| [07:33:47] | ShockValue: | hrm, maybe i misunderstood the docs |
| [07:33:52] | mchou: | ShockValue: you do need the remote though |
| [07:34:10] | ShockValue: | hrm, i might be able to find that without stirring the slumberer |
| [07:34:12] | ShockValue: | afk |
| [07:34:19] | xris: | we'd all like to be able to provide some basic info for free, but until we have an idea of what things will cost, how many users there really are, etc. we can't do that. |
| [07:34:34] | xris: | mchou: that's one day. |
| [07:34:42] | xris: | only takes a day to start a business in this state. |
| [07:34:50] | mchou: | xris: so Tribune wasnt will to provide demographic info? |
| [07:35:08] | xris: | mchou: we have some data. doesn't mean that many users would pay, though. |
| [07:36:04] | mchou: | xris: anyway, I just hope it's not some lame brain crap like that myth "value add" earlier |
| [07:36:17] | mchou: | forget what it was called |
| [07:36:18] | k-man: | samesame, yeah, i know... i have tried all options, i believe its some bug as it used to work fine with an older version of xmame |
| [07:36:26] | xris: | lxm wasn't so bad. |
| [07:36:42] | xris: | but as I understand it, we'd basically end up taking over labs.zap2it, for a fee |
| [07:36:46] | mchou: | yeah, lxm, that's it |
| [07:36:56] | xris: | can't really know for sure until tms hands out more NDAs |
| [07:37:04] | mchou: | xris: really now? |
| [07:37:33] | mchou: | xris: they need free admins? :) |
| [07:37:56] | xris: | like I said, more info should be forthcoming in the next couple of weeks. |
| [07:38:18] | mchou: | xris: I'm in no hurry |
| [07:38:30] | xris: | yup, still have 2 months |
| [07:38:39] | mchou: | but just realize that in perpetuity |
| [07:39:07] | mchou: | not sure linux devs is cut out for that degree of continuity |
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| [07:39:43] | mchou: | as much as everyone wants listings...... |
| [07:39:59] | xris: | not just linux, not just open source people |
| [07:40:18] | mchou: | xris: yup. |
| [07:40:34] | xris: | a LOT of people were affected by this, and the working group is getting more diverse every few days |
| [07:40:43] | mchou: | like btv and snapstram and all those commercial stuff |
| [07:40:51] | mchou: | snapstream* |
| [07:41:09] | xris: | nothing commercial |
| [07:41:26] | mchou: | well, at least it's good that tribune is still open to the idea |
| [07:41:58] | ShockValue: | hrm. ok i hit "ok" on the D11 in the diagnostic mode, but then the box doesnt show me anything |
| [07:42:09] | ShockValue: | what'm i missin? |
| [07:42:27] | ShockValue: | got my instructs here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use_a_Mot . . . P_is_Enabled |
| [07:42:32] | mchou: | ShockValue: probaly some arrows? |
| [07:43:22] | justdave: | when I do "s" for the program listings from livetv, it seems to get stuck in a loop |
| [07:43:30] | justdave: | looks from appearance like it's crashing over and over again (screen flashes quickly then blank for a bit, and the only way to get out is to ssh in and kill mythfrontend and restart it), except it doesn't actually crash. |
| [07:43:36] | mchou: | ShockValue: or try the 2nd part of that in the instruction |
| [07:43:41] | justdave: | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/112773 is the chunk of the log that keeps repeating over and over while it's looping |
| [07:43:54] | justdave: | anyone have any clues which of those messages is the actual problem? or what to do to help debug it? |
| [07:44:07] | ShockValue: | i dont have to have a screen hooked up to see this stuff eh? |
| [07:44:20] | mchou: | ShockValue: nope |
| [07:44:25] | ShockValue: | hrm, ok ill go try again |
| [07:44:51] | xris: | mchou: there are several options for getting the guide data. Most of us would like to keep working with TMS, though. |
| [07:45:13] | mchou: | xris: yeah, no doubt |
| [07:45:30] | mchou: | xris: keep the # off ppl low and reduce complexity |
| [07:46:23] | mchou: | considering TMS aggregates the data anyways it's not a bad game plan |
| [07:47:24] | ShockValue: | ok, i change to channel 108. turn off the box. hit select |
| [07:47:34] | ShockValue: | then down arrow to d11 and hit select |
| [07:47:50] | ShockValue: | screen goes blank. up/down does nothing, left/right toggles d11 on and off |
| [07:47:54] | ShockValue: | same with d6 |
| [07:48:22] | mchou: | ShockValue: 108 doesnt even sound like a HD channel |
| [07:48:40] | mchou: | you better check your lineup again |
| [07:49:00] | ShockValue: | 104–113 is the mirror of the SD channels 4–13 |
| [07:49:14] | ShockValue: | 108 is KCTSHD1 (pbs) |
| [07:49:26] | xris: | mchou: I've contacted a couple of individual tv stations. you'd be amazed at how disorganized they are. |
| [07:49:35] | xris: | their idea of a data feed was a hand-made xls file. |
| [07:49:42] | mchou: | hehe |
| [07:49:57] | ShockValue: | ill try 662, tnthd! :) |
| [07:51:17] | ShockValue: | same result. |
| [07:51:26] | ShockValue: | this would be way more fun if i wasnt out of beer |
| [07:52:08] | xris: | ok, time to sleep. |
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| [07:52:29] | mchou: | ShockValue: I think you're reading the wrong instructions |
| [07:52:56] | ShockValue: | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use_a_Mot . . . P_is_Enabled |
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| [07:55:15] | mchou: | ShockValue: that's for a motorola *DVR* |
| [07:55:25] | mchou: | which is not DCT-6200 |
| [08:00:31] | justdave: | if I run it from outside of livetv it works fine, only seems to loop like that if I run it from livetv |
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| [08:03:33] | ShockValue: | wellive found a few pages for the dct6200 and it's saying the same thing. |
| [08:04:01] | mchou: | ShockValue: well, then you have bad firmware or something else is going on |
| [08:04:27] | ShockValue: | guess ill diagnose more tomorrow, thanks for the help |
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| [08:08:21] | paranox: | has anyone been able to get mp3s to play from through all speakers (5.1) in mythtv? |
| [08:08:55] | samesame: | is there a such thing as a 5.1 encoded mp3? |
| [08:09:28] | paranox: | i mean a stereo mp3 upmixed to 5.1 |
| [08:09:48] | samesame: | a stereo mp3 upmixed to 5.1? ive never heard of that before |
| [08:10:06] | samesame: | if the file is still a mp3, it will have 2 audio tracks, left and right stereo? |
| [08:10:33] | paranox: | upmix, ie. duplicate the sound to the read channels |
| [08:10:53] | paranox: | *rear |
| [08:11:02] | samesame: | you've lost me here |
| [08:11:10] | mchou: | paranox: that's a function of your sound card, nothing to do with mp3 |
| [08:11:30] | mchou: | duplicate sound to rear channels |
| [08:11:49] | paranox: | mchou: i know. ive got it to work with everything except mythmusic |
| [08:11:57] | paranox: | so i was just wondering if anyone has had any luck doing it |
| [08:12:05] | mchou: | and has virtually nothing to do with myth |
| [08:14:07] | paranox: | obviously it does if its the only thing its not working with |
| [08:15:04] | mchou: | dude, for starters you tell myth to use alsa instead of OSS |
| [08:15:33] | paranox: | why do you assume im using oss? |
| [08:15:55] | mchou: | I'm not assuming anything. that's what your pastebin says |
| [08:16:14] | paranox: | ??? |
| [08:16:22] | mchou: | or maybe that was someone else's pastebin |
| [08:16:22] | paranox: | ive said nothing about using oss |
| [08:16:30] | paranox: | ive said nothing about using either |
| [08:16:33] | ** justdave hasn't seen him mention a pastebin url ** | |
| [08:16:34] | paranox: | therefore you assumed |
| [08:17:00] | mchou: | paranox: dont be silly |
| [08:17:17] | mchou: | it was someone else's pastebin is all |
| [08:17:20] | ** samesame detects paranox is getting aggetated ** | |
| [08:17:26] | samesame: | *agitated |
| [08:17:35] | mchou: | lol |
| [08:18:27] | samesame: | paranox: try using the alsa mixer |
| [08:18:32] | samesame: | thats if your using alsa |
| [08:18:58] | paranox: | samesame: im using alsa |
| [08:19:15] | samesame: | have u played with the alsa mixer yet? |
| [08:19:19] | paranox: | sure |
| [08:19:48] | paranox: | samesame: ive got .asoundrc to do the upmix |
| [08:20:06] | samesame: | so everything is ok now |
| [08:20:14] | paranox: | no |
| [08:20:27] | paranox: | its ok with everything except mythmusic |
| [08:20:29] | paranox: | ill explain |
| [08:20:51] | paranox: | module in .asoundrc called ch51dup does the upmix |
| [08:21:01] | paranox: | if i select this for mythtv, it works fine and upmixes |
| [08:21:44] | samesame: | if you play your mp3 with something other than mythmusic, does it play ok? |
| [08:22:45] | paranox: | if i select it for mythmusic, my music doesnt play and stderr gives something along the lines of 'expected 44k, got 48k' |
| [08:22:56] | ** justdave gives up on the program guide and heads to bed ** | |
| [08:22:58] | paranox: | except all my music is 44k |
| [08:23:14] | paranox: | music upmixes fine in amarok |
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| [08:26:03] | samesame: | paranox: sounds like you could have one of those windows vista viruses what are floating around.. |
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| [10:33:15] | map7home: | is it possible to use an IrDA dongle as a remote control receiver? |
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| [10:34:52] | gbee: | anyone here will to test a patch against -fixes? |
| [10:35:32] | CJDBunnY: | hi. how do i change channel when i guide mode? i only seem able to enter the schedule recoring |
| [10:35:52] | gbee: | guide settings |
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| [10:36:46] | CJDBunnY: | thanks gbee |
| [10:37:20] | Trentster: | hey all when using an nvidia graphics card with a hdtv is it better to use vga out to vga in on the lcd tv or to use tvout/svideo on the graphics card to svideo in on the lcd tv? |
| [10:37:49] | gbee: | there is an option there somewhere to change the behaviour of pressing SELECT in the guide |
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| [10:42:59] | Trentster: | I saw this on mythtv wiki "If using a Nvidia TV output (composite/svideo) & watching PAL/NTSC signals there should be no need to deinterlace video because the TV output's flicker filter's default setting (of 127) makes interlaced material look perfectly natural – exhibited on FX5200 svideo output – YMMV." does this mean we should allways use tv out on an nvidia card and not vga out, that way we dont have to worry about deint |
| [10:42:59] | Trentster: | erlacing? |
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| [10:45:25] | doc_: | hi there |
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| [10:46:12] | gbee: | Well if someone is reading scrollback later on, I'd appreciate it if this patch could be tested with -fixes http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/ . . . o_fixes.diff |
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| [10:53:22] | gpd: | If I record radio from UK freeview station – how can I convert to mp3 ? |
| [10:53:41] | pat_: | vlc? |
| [10:54:39] | gpd: | ok – remind me what codec the original file is? it says .mpg but it isn't clear what type |
| [10:55:42] | gbee: | gpd: there is a script in contrib to do exactly that |
| [10:55:50] | gbee: | mpeg2 |
| [10:57:57] | gbee: | well contrib of trunk |
| [10:58:17] | gpd: | http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv/contrib/ |
| [10:58:22] | gpd: | mythencode.pl? |
| [10:58:50] | gpd: | dvbradioexport.pl --- possibly :D |
| [10:59:07] | gbee: | yeah |
| [10:59:29] | gpd: | fantastic: thanks gbee ! |
| [11:00:18] | gbee: | requires a trunk build and a couple of things like ffmpeg and libid3tag |
| [11:00:32] | gbee: | err, id3tag |
| [11:00:35] | gpd: | hmm.. just starting to realize that :( |
| [11:01:09] | gpd: | so no normal tools can read mythtv generated mpegs. correct? |
| [11:01:46] | gbee: | not true, they are just ordinary mpeg2 files |
| [11:01:59] | juski: | morning |
| [11:02:00] | gbee: | can be read by just about anything |
| [11:02:04] | juski: | er.. afternoon, even |
| [11:02:28] | gpd: | so I should also be able to recode for my N800 |
| [11:02:53] | gbee: | the trouble comes with some things not being able to handle mythtv's NUV format |
| [11:03:17] | gbee: | juski: are you still running a -fixes build? |
| [11:03:54] | juski: | yeah it's hardly recent though |
| [11:04:23] | gpd: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Nokia_N800_Tablet_PDA |
| [11:04:35] | juski: | Library API version: 0.20.20060828–3 |
| [11:04:35] | juski: | Source code version: 11626 |
| [11:04:48] | gbee: | ok, well I'm just looking for someone to test a patch because I don't have a -fixes install |
| [11:05:07] | janneg: | gpd: ffmpeg handles mythtv's nuv correctly |
| [11:05:31] | juski: | I need to upgrade my lot sometime.. 11626 is like .. how old now? |
| [11:06:26] | janneg: | 8 months |
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| [11:07:32] | juski: | wow. been pretty rock solid up til now though :) |
| [11:08:32] | juski: | btw gbee the t-shirt arrived yesterday. it's very good quality |
| [11:08:39] | gbee: | cool |
| [11:09:19] | juski: | looks more or less exactly like the jpg :) |
| [11:09:34] | juski: | less than a tenner too – will use em again |
| [11:10:20] | gbee: | sounds good, what image did you use? |
| [11:10:41] | juski: | www.juski.co.uk/tshirt.jpg |
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| [11:13:11] | gbee: | well if that came out ok, then I'm impressed :) |
| [11:14:06] | juski: | text is perfectly legible |
| [11:14:50] | juski: | and.. I think my training for next weekend is complete after last night's outing. didn't get back til gone 4.30am damnit |
| [11:15:44] | sebrock: | dear linux-aces would you know why I get an empty file named "1" in my root at every boot? |
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| [11:17:29] | jc: | Hi. Is there a way to manually fine tune TV channel frequency while watching TV? Going to myth-setup is impractical. |
| [11:17:48] | juski: | jc: with er.. the channel editor perhaps? |
| [11:17:53] | juski: | press E while in livetv |
| [11:18:13] | janneg: | sebrock: probably a broken init script that wants to redirect stderr to stdout and misses a '&' |
| [11:18:25] | juski: | can't remember if there's a finetune parameter in the channel editor screen though |
| [11:18:39] | jc: | juski: I will check. Thanks |
| [11:19:56] | juski: | gbee: btw I got lirc working on the demo box no problem yesterday. just have to write a lircrc file & that's done. The bluetooth spam script seems to be broken though, so that might save me a lynching |
| [11:19:59] | sebrock: | janneg ok thanks |
| [11:20:00] | juski: | *from a |
| [11:20:54] | juski: | oh btw gbee I think we're gonna need to talk IP addresses for LRL ;) |
| [11:21:19] | juski: | not that it's a big deal to have to change on the day like |
| [11:21:41] | gbee: | juski: yep |
| [11:27:45] | jc: | Pressing E while watching tv does not allow me to set the channel frequency. There's a "probe" button at the botton but it does not seem to do anything. |
| [11:28:40] | juski: | jc: so how many channels do you have to update? can't be that many surely |
| [11:29:06] | juski: | you can use mythweb on another machine to edit the finetune column of the channel table |
| [11:29:25] | jc: | There are 4–5 that show artifacts and I would like to try to move the freq up and down a little. |
| [11:29:32] | jduggan: | is there internet connectivity @ lrl? |
| [11:30:01] | juski: | jduggan: not officially but there might be leaky wifi you can whore off of |
| [11:30:11] | jduggan: | heh |
| [11:30:31] | juski: | I've got my bluetooth adapter – that's as wireless as I get |
| [11:30:36] | jduggan: | :) |
| [11:30:52] | jc: | mythweb... interesting idea. Can you set freq in there? I thought it was just a prog guide browser. I have not set it up yet... |
| [11:31:09] | gbee: | jc: when you say artifacts, is this digital or analogue? |
| [11:31:20] | juski: | yes you can edit channel details in mythweb |
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| [11:31:53] | jc: | analogue. But I don't see them when I watch the same channel directly on the TV |
| [11:32:01] | psofa: | anyone knows why mythtv wont autoexpire things? |
| [11:32:06] | gbee: | mythweb is more than programme guide browser |
| [11:32:12] | psofa: | ive been having this problem since god knows when |
| [11:32:23] | psofa: | options for autoexpiring are set |
| [11:32:37] | psofa: | ive even told it to autoexpire shows older than 1 day |
| [11:32:42] | psofa: | but it wont |
| [11:32:58] | gbee: | psofa: have you got slow deletes enabled? |
| [11:33:09] | jc: | I will set up Mythtweb . Thanks. |
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| [11:34:40] | psofa: | gbee, uhm not sure.Is this in mythtv-setup thing? |
| [11:34:43] | psofa: | lemme check |
| [11:35:50] | sebrock: | I can't get LCDd to start on boot, can anyone help me with this |
| [11:36:44] | psofa: | gbee, slow deletes is disabled |
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| [11:45:28] | sebrock: | Only way I can start LCDd is to manually sudo it... can anyone help? |
| [11:50:38] | immolo: | rc.local? |
| [11:50:51] | immolo: | pretty dirty but it will do the job |
| [11:52:32] | jduggan: | yea sounds like youre possibly trying to starting it before its initialised, use rc.local if you're not already to ensure your startup happens after everything |
| [11:53:16] | sebrock: | it's in rc2.d |
| [11:53:33] | sebrock: | alright I'll try rc.local |
| [11:54:52] | sebrock: | and another thing, I've read somethings about the "font" issue with myth and X |
| [11:55:03] | sebrock: | some say you should not alter the X dpi |
| [11:55:06] | sebrock: | some say you should |
| [11:55:32] | sebrock: | because changing font size within myth does not really change the font size for me |
| [11:55:35] | juski: | if it's 100 DPI you shouldn't. if it's not, you should |
| [11:56:06] | sebrock: | what is default, I cant find any DPI stuff in my xorg.conf |
| [11:56:20] | juski: | and FYI you can only select big, small & default for font sizes. changing the numbers will only change the size of the Qt widget fonts! |
| [11:56:35] | sebrock: | ok |
| [11:57:02] | juski: | it pays to make sure you have all the right fonts installed for the theme you're using |
| [11:57:23] | juski: | look for a README in the root of the $theme dir |
| [11:59:46] | sebrock: | no DPI set in xorg |
| [12:00:00] | sebrock: | under which section should this be? or does it not matter |
| [12:00:09] | juski: | DISPLAYSIZE |
| [12:00:16] | juski: | see the wikiwikiwikiwikiwiki |
| [12:00:42] | juski: | woo got my bluetooth script worky again |
| [12:00:51] | sebrock: | there is no displaysize defined |
| [12:01:00] | sebrock: | thats why I as what the default is? |
| [12:01:29] | juski: | run xdyinfo |grep dots to find out what DPI you're running at |
| [12:01:36] | sebrock: | tnx |
| [12:01:41] | juski: | duh |
| [12:01:47] | juski: | xdpyinfo |grep dots |
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| [12:02:51] | planktonboy: | hi chaps |
| [12:03:38] | juski: | hi planktonboy |
| [12:03:56] | juski: | pfft! cheeky B.. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/277384 editing the transparency indeed! pah!! |
| [12:04:44] | planktonboy: | hi juski |
| [12:06:03] | planktonboy: | hehe yeah I read that on the news threads earlier |
| [12:06:15] | planktonboy: | messing with your work mate |
| [12:06:34] | jc: | juski: the mythweb idea worked. I can fine tune from there. Thanks a lot! |
| [12:06:38] | psofa: | if i up the required free space thing it does autoexpire |
| [12:06:44] | juski: | jc: glad to help :) |
| [12:06:59] | psofa: | however it wont autoexpire when a show is too old |
| [12:07:07] | psofa: | just when it runs out of space |
| [12:07:21] | juski: | check your db ain't corrupted |
| [12:07:24] | sebrock: | nope putting it to rc.local gives [failed] |
| [12:07:31] | psofa: | juski, me? |
| [12:07:34] | sebrock: | must be some permission fault |
| [12:07:36] | juski: | psofa: yes yee |
| [12:07:45] | sebrock: | it works fine manually as root |
| [12:08:27] | juski: | sebrock: man update-rc.d |
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| [12:12:22] | psofa: | juski, what im i looking for, the recorded table seems ok to me |
| [12:12:38] | psofa: | autoexpire is 10000 for most recordings |
| [12:13:36] | planktonboy: | has that bug in mythvideo been fixed yet...I have recently done an update to svn 13775 and 13780 and when I try to move forward through a video that is playing it crashes mythfrontend |
| [12:13:38] | juski: | no idea what that's meant to mean |
| [12:13:58] | juski: | planktonboy: check the -commits archive & see |
| [12:14:00] | psofa: | juski, i think its just priority |
| [12:14:45] | planktonboy: | juski yeah I saw that they had fixed a bug in mythdvd that sounded similar |
| [12:15:20] | planktonboy: | juski is that commit archive here http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/timeline |
| [12:15:35] | planktonboy: | or is that just a timeline page as it says |
| [12:16:03] | gbee: | planktonboy: bug wasn't fixed, we need a backtrace for crashes |
| [12:16:23] | gbee: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3688#comment:1 |
| [12:16:43] | planktonboy: | gbee ok I can do that if someone can give me a brief how to guide |
| [12:18:05] | planktonboy: | but I will need to build from svn again as I did a partimage restore of my system when it didnt work |
| [12:18:13] | gbee: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.2 |
| [12:18:33] | planktonboy: | gbee thanks mate wiil read up on thawt |
| [12:18:37] | planktonboy: | that even |
| [12:19:05] | juski: | I fink it's about time I ate some breakfast |
| [12:20:22] | planktonboy: | hehe |
| [12:20:42] | planktonboy: | yeah that would be nice |
| [12:21:13] | planktonboy: | but that means I would have to stand up to make myself some brekky |
| [12:21:31] | planktonboy: | most I can manage is a cup of tea |
| [12:22:42] | sebrock: | juski, it says it already exists (which is true), I dont know how to proceed |
| [12:23:51] | planktonboy: | anyone using mythphone in here today |
| [12:24:05] | sebrock: | or netflix :/ |
| [12:24:41] | planktonboy: | I dont use netflix....that seems to be more of a US thing I think...same as mythmovies |
| [12:24:52] | sebrock: | yeah |
| [12:25:37] | sebrock: | update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/LCDd exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force) |
| [12:25:50] | sebrock: | when trying to remove it |
| [12:26:36] | planktonboy: | brb |
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| [12:29:43] | doc_: | mm i've developed an applet with qt .. it checks backend at every N minutes to ckeck if recording, and then, show a message with recording program ... would be it useful ? |
| [12:30:29] | doc_: | it is intended to be used on linux, windows, mac os x :) |
| [12:30:37] | juski: | doc_: not to me, but different folks maybe |
| [12:30:44] | doc_: | aha |
| [12:30:57] | juski: | announce it on the users mailing list & see what people say ;) |
| [12:31:16] | doc_: | :) |
| [12:31:38] | juski: | I'll tell you this for free though – don't take folks' comments too seriously ;) Can be very de-motivating, that list |
| [12:31:56] | juski: | great work! BUT |
| [12:32:14] | doc_: | don't worry, i've received similar messages with other projects :) |
| [12:32:28] | juski: | "great work BUT" is not a compliment ;) |
| [12:32:57] | juski: | hmm cup of tea & toast covered in honey. heaven |
| [12:32:57] | doc_: | hehe :) |
| [12:33:21] | juski: | haha it's 1.30pm |
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| [12:34:52] | ** gbee wonders how many times he's said "great work but" ** | |
| [12:35:46] | sebrock: | juski, update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/LCDd exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force) |
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| [12:36:01] | sebrock: | I dont know how to proceed |
| [12:36:40] | sebrock: | and will this really fix this because there is already an entry in rc2.d |
| [12:38:34] | juski: | rc2.d? no idea sebrock. you need an lcdproc ubuntu expert |
| [12:38:56] | juski: | I'd suggest asking in #ubuntu is is wasn't gonna be futile ;) |
| [12:39:08] | juski: | s/is is/if it |
| [12:39:41] | juski: | *might* be worth a try though |
| [12:40:45] | sebrock: | all things at boot start as root does it not? |
| [12:44:13] | juski: | you know this lcdproc stuff – for it to work it doesn't depend on something else being run first does it? similar to how serial port lirc receivers need setserial to disable the port before using lirc_serial... |
| [12:44:44] | juski: | that's probably the only likely reason the init script isn't doing its thing- has to be something like that |
| [12:46:18] | sebrock: | I've tried to put it in rc.local but it failes aswell |
| [12:46:47] | sebrock: | well, it depends on the lirc_imon module to be loaded |
| [12:47:23] | sebrock: | with the myth user I cant start it, permission denied, but with root I can start it right after boot |
| [12:47:58] | sebrock: | /dev/lcd0 says: crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 144 2007-07–01 14:05 /dev/lcd0 |
| [12:48:03] | juski: | so what's loading the lirc_imon module? |
| [12:48:21] | juski: | and is lirc a dependency as well? |
| [12:48:38] | juski: | maybe lirc is being started _after_ lcdproc by some weird quirk |
| [12:50:39] | juski: | anyway you know you've got to be rooty to start/stop/restart init scripts ;) |
| [12:52:12] | sebrock: | I put lirc_imon into /etc/modules |
| [12:52:35] | sebrock: | yeah but boot is done by root? |
| [12:54:00] | juski: | well yeah usually as far as I know. I just take it for granted that init scripts will work |
| [12:54:56] | juski: | if the init script doesn't work on its own at boot time but works fine when you run it manually just after booting, then I reckon it's a safe bet that something the init script depends on hasn't started or hasn't yet happened |
| [12:55:25] | sebrock: | I'll check the script again |
| [12:56:04] | sebrock: | $syslog $local_fs $network $remote_fs |
| [12:56:31] | sebrock: | as rc.local is the last thing to go and it does not work there either... |
| [12:56:35] | sebrock: | I'm clueless |
| [12:56:50] | juski: | maybe you're not putting the right thing in rc.local |
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| [12:57:22] | juski: | I think you should def. go in search of an lcdproc expert |
| [12:58:23] | sebrock: | I put it in /etc/rc.local |
| [12:58:35] | sebrock: | and it failes when I put it there so that is beeing executed |
| [13:02:14] | juski: | are there any logging options you can enable in the script to find out why it's failing? |
| [13:02:29] | rooaus: | sebrock: Does your script use the full path, maybe the path isn't fully configured when init runs? |
| [13:05:31] | psofa: | can anyone guess why cant my damn mythbox autoexpire old recordings? it seems to just delete when its full |
| [13:05:40] | sebrock: | rooaus what do you mean? |
| [13:05:42] | psofa: | backend says 2007-07–01 16:04:47.013 AutoExpire: ExpireLiveTV(10000) |
| [13:05:42] | psofa: | 2007-07–01 16:04:47.013 AutoExpire: FillDBOrdered: Adding Short LiveTV programs in starttime order |
| [13:05:42] | psofa: | 2007-07–01 16:04:47.015 AutoExpire: SendDeleteMessages. Nothing to expire. |
| [13:05:59] | sebrock: | it works to simply run "LCDd" as root directly after boot |
| [13:07:59] | rooaus: | sebrock: Bash sets the path when you login for you, so "LCDd" just works. But maybe the path environment variable isn't set during the boot process and the shell can't find LCDd. |
| [13:09:20] | rooaus: | Try typing "which LCDd" and see where the executable is installed, then use this in your script. eg "/usr/sbin/LCDd" |
| [13:12:28] | sebrock: | hm ok |
| [13:13:05] | rooaus: | Probably a long shot but worth checking. |
| [13:13:21] | sebrock: | I'll try it |
| [13:13:38] | sebrock: | so should I put /usr/local/sbin/LCDd this in rc.local instead? |
| [13:14:59] | rooaus: | Yes. |
| [13:17:30] | psofa: | uhm |
| [13:17:40] | psofa: | Select * from recorded works fine |
| [13:17:45] | rooaus: | If that doesn't work try redirecting it's output to a log file, maybe something like "/usr/local/sbin/LCDd &> logfile". This will redirect stderr AND stdout to the logfile |
| [13:17:55] | psofa: | but when itried the exact query that the backend uses |
| [13:18:04] | psofa: | ERROR 1194 (HY000): Table 'recorded' is marked as crashed and should be repaired |
| [13:18:31] | sebrock: | rooaus what do you know, it worked |
| [13:18:34] | sebrock: | thank you! |
| [13:20:23] | rooaus: | No worries, these things can be frustrating at times :) |
| [13:20:37] | sebrock: | yeah, well now you saved my day |
| [13:20:40] | juski: | ahh! just assumed sebrock was using the right path lol |
| [13:21:03] | sebrock: | well, the easiest things pass the mind sometimes... |
| [13:21:45] | rooaus: | true |
| [13:30:05] | psofa: | yay! fixed |
| [13:30:11] | psofa: | backend started deleting |
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| [13:36:25] | darkfrog: | Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong in my xorg.conf configuration: http://www.captiveimagination.com/wiki/index.php/Temp I keep getting Mode Not Supported. I'm trying to use my HDMI connection. |
| [13:36:52] | sebrock: | what does this mean: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/LCDd exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force) |
| [13:36:57] | juski: | darkfrog: then maybe your display doesn't support the mode you're trying to use! |
| [13:37:04] | sebrock: | should I use -f to remove it? |
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| [13:37:26] | darkfrog: | juski, I got the modelines specifically for my TV model. |
| [13:38:14] | juski: | try setting IgnoreEDID to "1" in xorg.conf ? TVs sometimes lie ;) |
| [13:38:51] | darkfrog: | what will that do? |
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| [13:39:21] | darkfrog: | juski, this is a 56" HDTV with 1080p |
| [13:39:32] | juski: | IIRC it'll get xorg to ignore the resolutions the TV says it'll support – they sometimes lie |
| [13:39:54] | darkfrog: | okay |
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| [13:40:10] | darkfrog: | Know how to restart X when you're remotely connected? |
| [13:40:19] | juski: | depends what disp. manager you use |
| [13:40:36] | juski: | e.g. in ubuntu you might do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| [13:40:52] | darkfrog: | juski, KDE I believe on FC6 |
| [13:41:04] | darkfrog: | ...maybe Gnome actually...I guess I don't remember. :o |
| [13:42:08] | juski: | you don't remember? shame on you :) |
| [13:42:37] | darkfrog: | yes I know. :o |
| [13:43:10] | darkfrog: | juski, no such command as gdm. ;) |
| [13:43:23] | darkfrog: | how about gpm? |
| [13:44:50] | juski: | try sudo /etc/init.d/ then hit tab til you see something likely lol |
| [13:45:36] | jams: | gpm won't get you very far with restarting X |
| [13:48:42] | darkfrog: | not seeing anything "likely" :o |
| [13:49:58] | jams: | darkfrog- likely would include gdm kdm xdm |
| [13:50:11] | jams: | if all else fails you could just kill the X server |
| [13:50:40] | darkfrog: | no gdm, kdm, or xdm |
| [13:50:45] | jams: | if one of those login managers is running X will try to restart |
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| [13:51:09] | darkfrog: | jams, how do I just kill X then? |
| [13:51:11] | jams: | eh those are the usual suspects, no idea what ubunta uses |
| [13:51:21] | darkfrog: | This is Fedora Core 6 |
| [13:51:49] | jams: | ah |
| [13:51:56] | jams: | did you look in /etc/rc.d/init.d ? |
| [13:52:48] | darkfrog: | same files |
| [13:53:28] | jams: | really and gdm,kdm,xdm is not listed? |
| [13:53:38] | jams: | amazing |
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| [13:54:28] | darkfrog: | jams, there is a /usr/bin/kdm though |
| [13:54:59] | jams: | darkfrog- so is kdm running ? |
| [13:55:03] | jams: | ps -ef |grep kdm |
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| [13:58:58] | darkfrog: | jams, no, it's not. :o |
| [13:59:13] | darkfrog: | gdm is |
| [14:00:32] | darkfrog: | Comma separated list: /usr/sbin/gdm-binary -nodaemon, /bin/sh /etc/gdm/XKeepsCrashing, /usr/libexec/gdmopen -l /bin/sh -c /etc/gdm/XKeepsCrashing -noopen, /bin/sh /etc/gdm/XKeepsCrashing -noopen |
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| [14:01:26] | darkfrog: | Is it normal for HDMI to not even show a display when you're booting? |
| [14:03:02] | jams: | darkfrog- is that a dvi -> hdmi converter ? |
| [14:03:10] | darkfrog: | jams, yeah |
| [14:03:24] | jams: | my hdmi connection shows stuff on boot if I have the tv turned on first |
| [14:03:33] | jams: | otherwise the computer defaults back to the vga connection |
| [14:03:40] | darkfrog: | Mine just says "Not Supported Mode" |
| [14:04:03] | EnterUserName: | I have 2 video cards.. and the second one never shows booting informati on |
| [14:04:15] | jams: | is it starting with some framebuffer mode or just text ? |
| [14:04:53] | darkfrog: | jams, I never see anything when I'm running from the HDMI, it flickers at the points when it's changing modes and then displays "Not Supported Mode" |
| [14:05:08] | darkfrog: | I previously had a VGA connection but decided I would "upgrade" :o |
| [14:05:58] | jams: | darkfrog- so you doni't even see the bios screens? |
| [14:06:03] | darkfrog: | no |
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| [14:07:15] | jams: | might just be your card doing the vga init first, but thats just a guess |
| [14:07:32] | darkfrog: | I disconnected the vga connection thinking that might be part of the problem. |
| [14:07:45] | jams: | that was a good idea |
| [14:08:10] | darkfrog: | I think I'm going to give up on this thing for now. :o |
| [14:08:24] | jams: | darkfrog- onboard video card as well? |
| [14:08:48] | darkfrog: | jams, no, an ATI Radeon 9600 AGP |
| [14:09:01] | jams: | ah |
| [14:09:16] | darkfrog: | it has a DVI and VGA port |
| [14:10:00] | jams: | my two ati's behave correctly in respect to dvi/vga showing boot info |
| [14:10:28] | jams: | don't really know |
| [14:10:30] | darkfrog: | thanks for you help. :) |
| [14:10:43] | darkfrog: | I'm going to switch back to VGA for now until I can think of another idea. |
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| [14:16:27] | psofa: | uhm okay now sth else came up.ive got 200 or so recordings in the recorded table that have deletepending=1 but they arent deleted |
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| [14:51:38] | MrMist1: | Hi all |
| [14:51:55] | MrMist1: | I want to be able to play DivX when inserting a CD |
| [14:52:02] | MrMist1: | Any ideas how to fix this ? |
| [14:56:03] | juski: | "I want, never gets" – that's what my Dad always said to me when I was a kid :) |
| [14:56:20] | MrMist1: | heh |
| [14:56:36] | MrMist1: | seems I'm not getting :S |
| [14:56:54] | juski: | the easiest way is to have the optical drive automount, and make a symlink in the videos dir to the mount point |
| [14:57:40] | MrMist1: | hmm |
| [14:57:55] | MrMist1: | would I have to "search for new media" every time when inserting? |
| [14:58:02] | MrMist1: | Optical drive automount ? |
| [14:58:14] | MrMist1: | How do I do it ? |
| [14:58:26] | MrMist1: | the ln -s I know how to do |
| [14:58:33] | juski: | totally depends on your distro |
| [14:58:48] | MrMist1: | I'm on ubuntu |
| [14:59:39] | juski: | so search for a guide for ubuntu then:) |
| [15:05:18] | MrMist1: | thanks :) |
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| [15:16:21] | Dagmar: | *sigh* |
| [15:16:30] | Dagmar: | Frontend crashed again |
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| [15:23:53] | sebrock: | I need to get meself a nice SP/DIF cable |
| [15:24:44] | juski: | you don't need anything special for coaxial |
| [15:25:00] | juski: | zero point paying $$$ for 'gold plated' BS etc |
| [15:25:34] | juski: | let's *not* laugh at the saps who buy & sell gold plated optical leads again ;) |
| [15:25:37] | Dagmar: | bling bling, tacky is calling, will you accept the charges? |
| [15:26:13] | sebrock: | I know, but I'll have to wait until towmorrow anyhow |
| [15:26:43] | justdave: | when I do "s" for the program listings from livetv, it seems to get stuck in a loop; looks from appearance like it's crashing over and over again (screen flashes quickly then blank for a bit), except it doesn't actually crash. |
| [15:26:54] | justdave: | the only way I've found to get out of it once it starts doing that is to ssh in or switch to a different vt and kill mythfrontend and restart it |
| [15:27:07] | justdave: | if I run it from outside of livetv it works fine, only seems to loop like that if I run it from livetv |
| [15:27:18] | justdave: | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/112773 is the chunk of the log that keeps repeating over and over while it's looping |
| [15:27:30] | justdave: | anyone have any clues which of those messages is the actual problem? or what to do to help debug it? |
| [15:28:26] | sebrock: | otherwise I'm looking for a nice wired router... can't find anything on consumer level tho |
| [15:28:43] | sebrock: | ie gigabit and at least 100mbit WAN-LAN |
| [15:29:29] | justdave: | I just got a gigabit switch and put it behind a 100 Mbit linksys router |
| [15:29:43] | justdave: | seems the only way to get gigabit on the inside without paying a fortune |
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| [15:30:41] | sebrock: | what is your wan throughput? |
| [15:30:47] | sebrock: | thats my main concern |
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| [15:31:30] | justdave: | 5 Mbit is all they'll give me. it handles that fine |
| [15:31:39] | sebrock: | heh yes I guess |
| [15:31:46] | sebrock: | but I want to max my 100mbit line |
| [15:32:19] | justdave: | I'm using openwrt on it, too. the stock firmware sucks |
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| [15:36:21] | Dagmar: | sebrock: There's a reason you're not finding equipment like that |
| [15:36:33] | sebrock: | I guess there is no demand for it |
| [15:36:37] | sebrock: | everything is wireless nowadays |
| [15:36:49] | sebrock: | or what is your reason? |
| [15:36:51] | Dagmar: | No, there's no _need_ for it. |
| [15:37:19] | Dagmar: | Literally no one's home internet connection can even saturate a 10base-T link. |
| [15:37:37] | Dagmar: | Only the people who have FIOS (fiber) service get near that |
| [15:38:25] | Dagmar: | gigE on the back of a home router makes about as much sense as gold 42" spinners on a YUgo |
| [15:39:07] | sebrock: | you must be kidding... here in sweden the need for a router with higher throughput is pretty big |
| [15:39:21] | Dagmar: | Sure it is |
| [15:39:32] | Dagmar: | What kinda connection do you have? |
| [15:39:38] | sebrock: | alone where I live I think there are more fiber users than dsl |
| [15:39:43] | sebrock: | 100mbit fibre |
| [15:39:56] | Dagmar: | Then your service provider's equipment has a gigabit ethernet port on your side? |
| [15:40:08] | Dagmar: | THen 100base-T is as fast as you need to worry about |
| [15:40:23] | sebrock: | yes it is |
| [15:40:50] | sebrock: | but my router I use now only gives me about 1/3 of my max capacity |
| [15:41:26] | sebrock: | so what I would like is a gigabit router for LAN side and around 100mbit throughput from WAN |
| [15:41:35] | sebrock: | thats not too much to ask |
| [15:41:39] | Dagmar: | THat's pointless |
| [15:41:56] | sebrock: | ?? |
| [15:42:34] | Dagmar: | Look, if your side of the equipment the ISP brought over to connect to the internet is 100base-T, then connecting somethign with a GigE port to it is a freaking waste of time |
| [15:42:45] | sebrock: | sight |
| [15:43:09] | Dagmar: | ....and either you can't do math, because 1/3 != 1/10, or the problem you're having is that 100base-T is faster than your _actual connection_ to the rest of the internet |
| [15:43:22] | sebrock: | look, if I connect my computer directly to the WAN port in my wall, I get about 92mbit down |
| [15:43:28] | sebrock: | with my router I get ~30 |
| [15:43:31] | sebrock: | you get it? |
| [15:43:36] | Dagmar: | So your router sucks then |
| [15:43:40] | Dagmar: | Using gige will not fix that |
| [15:43:46] | sebrock: | thats what i tell you |
| [15:43:55] | sebrock: | no you dont understand |
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| [15:44:02] | juski: | or you've got cat5 termites |
| [15:44:10] | Dagmar: | I *do* understand |
| [15:44:11] | sebrock: | the gigabit part I will only use on my own LAN |
| [15:44:19] | Dagmar: | I work in a NOC where about half the cables are gige |
| [15:44:33] | Dagmar: | THen all you need is a gigabit ethernet switch |
| [15:44:54] | Dagmar: | Those run in the $100 range for small ones |
| [15:45:14] | sebrock: | yes, but I also want a router/firewall and buying them as one unit should be cheaper |
| [15:45:22] | Dagmar: | Nope. |
| [15:45:25] | mkrufky: | not so |
| [15:45:32] | Dagmar: | "should" does not match with reality |
| [15:45:49] | sebrock: | how about p2p forwarding |
| [15:45:53] | Dagmar: | how about it |
| [15:46:04] | sebrock: | how would a switch handle that |
| [15:46:11] | Beirdo: | are there affordable commercial routers with gigE ports (esp with built-in gigE switch?) |
| [15:46:18] | anykey_: | sebrock: what does a switch have to do with p2p?! |
| [15:46:19] | Dagmar: | When "p2p forwarding" becomes more than a pair of buzzwords, maybe someone can answer that |
| [15:46:22] | juski: | a switch doesn't care about port forwarding |
| [15:46:26] | Beirdo: | a switch just passes data from port A to port B |
| [15:46:29] | Dagmar: | Beirdo: None that I've seen |
| [15:46:43] | sebrock: | See, thats why I want a router goddammit |
| [15:46:45] | sebrock: | :P |
| [15:46:49] | mkrufky: | Beirdo: i know of one... but you spent about $5000 after you have it all |
| [15:46:56] | sebrock: | and not a switch |
| [15:46:57] | Dagmar: | Lemme spell it out for your |
| [15:46:58] | Beirdo: | that's all it gives a damn about. The only possible difference is if it will do QoS prioritization |
| [15:47:08] | Beirdo: | mkrufky, yeah, hardly affordable |
| [15:47:13] | sebrock: | my god... |
| [15:47:17] | mkrufky: | certainly not for the end user |
| [15:47:18] | Dagmar: | A router that does GigE is going to run you _multiple_ hundreds of dollars |
| [15:47:45] | mkrufky: | we have it in my office, though.... it's a router and it has an extension where you can add a gige switch to it.... we're only using it as a router, though |
| [15:47:53] | sebrock: | Dagmar nope |
| [15:47:55] | Dagmar: | For that instance, you are far better off buying a motherboard with two onboard GigE NIC chipsets and building one. |
| [15:47:58] | Dagmar: | sebrock: Yes. |
| [15:48:09] | Dagmar: | sebrock: Feel free to go find prices under $200 |
| [15:48:14] | sebrock: | sure |
| [15:48:18] | mkrufky: | sebrock: you know of something high quality, yet cheaper? |
| [15:48:31] | Beirdo: | and not stolen? |
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| [15:48:36] | anykey_: | sebrock: a router that does 1gbit/s throughput is probably going to cost a lot more than 100$ |
| [15:49:00] | sebrock: | OMG OMG OMG I never said I needed a router with 1gbit throughput from WAN side |
| [15:49:02] | mkrufky: | ....and i think my $5K estimate is even on the cheaper side of things |
| [15:49:14] | Dagmar: | I know how much we shell out for Cisco's _cheap_ gigE equipment at the office |
| [15:49:15] | sebrock: | I need a 100mbit router with a gigabit switch |
| [15:49:20] | Dagmar: | It's prices are _not_ appropriate for the home. |
| [15:49:38] | Beirdo: | sebrock, so buy a damned 100mbit router and a gigabit switch |
| [15:49:40] | Dagmar: | sebrock: You said you needed exactly that, several times |
| [15:49:42] | Beirdo: | and stop being silly |
| [15:49:44] | anykey_: | sebrock: what you want is a router _and_ a switch, but not in the same device |
| [15:50:24] | Dagmar: | The amount of CPU you get in an appliance device for ~$100-$200 isn't going to be spry enough to manage 1000base-T. |
| [15:50:32] | sebrock: | like this one: http://www.dlink.com/products/resource.asp?pi . . . 27&sec=1 |
| [15:50:52] | sebrock: | not that I would buy dlink but thats an example |
| [15:51:40] | anykey_: | sebrock: go to a local store and ask them about what to get... this has nothing to do with mythtv... |
| [15:51:42] | Dagmar: | Of course d-link would jump out there and deliver crap |
| [15:51:43] | sebrock: | anykey_ check the name of that thing, it's named 'router' which nowadays is the term everybody uses for the combined router/switch |
| [15:51:52] | sebrock: | yes that was just an exampe |
| [15:51:56] | sebrock: | that but wired |
| [15:52:29] | sebrock: | Dagmar, it says that thin even has a gb WAN port |
| [15:52:36] | sebrock: | and that thing cost less than $200 |
| [15:52:48] | anykey_: | sebrock: just because "everyone" uses the term i won't use it |
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| [15:52:59] | Beirdo: | and likely has 100mbit internal bandwidth if that |
| [15:53:10] | Dagmar: | That doesn't mean there's any point to connecting it to your 100base-T upstream link. |
| [15:53:35] | sebrock: | noddan, I just tell you that there are stuff wfor less than $200 |
| [15:53:43] | Dagmar: | ...and the "usual" price on that is about double that |
| [15:53:48] | sebrock: | usual? |
| [15:53:54] | Dagmar: | Yes, the MSRP. |
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| [15:54:07] | anykey_: | sebrock: you likely won't get gigabit with that one |
| [15:54:16] | sebrock: | of cause not |
| [15:54:30] | anykey_: | sebrock: so why buy it then?! |
| [15:54:35] | sebrock: | I stated consumer level at the beginning of this discussion |
| [15:54:39] | sebrock: | never said I would |
| [15:54:41] | Dagmar: | Because of the rice factor, apparently |
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| [15:55:58] | sebrock: | it was an example, and it has gotten fairly good reviews. But I would not bother with D-link ever again |
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| [16:02:26] | mtymobile: | hi |
| [16:03:26] | mtymobile: | i'm gonna buy some stuff for my first mythtv box, which tv tuner card do you suggest? I was looking at hauppage DVB-T |
| [16:03:44] | mtymobile: | but I want one with hardware encoding |
| [16:04:55] | bdbosch: | mtymobile, I'd recommend a pvr-500 — two HW encoding cards in one... |
| [16:05:52] | mtymobile: | isn't it a dvb-s? |
| [16:06:24] | mtymobile: | i would like one which also has compatibility with digital terrestrial |
| [16:06:27] | anykey_: | mtymobile: pvr-500 is dual analogue |
| [16:06:37] | anykey_: | mtymobile: I think the Nova T-500 is dual DVB-T |
| [16:06:59] | bdbosch: | um, yes, sorry, it is |
| [16:07:34] | mtymobile: | mmm |
| [16:08:23] | mtymobile: | nova T-500 does not have hardware encoding |
| [16:08:38] | anykey_: | mtymobile: dvb-t is already mpeg2 |
| [16:08:47] | mtymobile: | ah |
| [16:08:57] | mtymobile: | sorry for my ignorance :D |
| [16:09:49] | mtymobile: | one thing about dvb-t |
| [16:09:59] | mtymobile: | i don't need any subscription |
| [16:10:07] | mtymobile: | right? |
| [16:10:15] | anykey_: | mtymobile: that depends on your provider |
| [16:10:29] | mtymobile: | the plug is just like an analog one? |
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| [16:11:46] | mtymobile: | are there any italian people in here? |
| [16:12:00] | mtymobile: | that would get much easier |
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| [16:17:21] | mtymobile: | thx anyway, google had the answers :D |
| [16:17:47] | mtymobile: | by the way, thanks for mythtv, great stuff |
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| [16:58:32] | mkrufky: | quilt pop -a |
| [16:58:37] | mkrufky: | oops... hehe |
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| [17:22:57] | Treito77: | hello |
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| [17:46:43] | Vantage13: | Hi, is there a way to have ivtvctl store the volume value I set for it? I have two tuners set to the same volume, but one always ends up quieter than the other (tuner input vs line in input). I can bump the volume up with ivtvctl, but whenever I go back to the tuner it resets the volume down again |
| [17:46:58] | Dagmar: | nope |
| [17:47:33] | Vantage13: | Dagmar: seriously? Any work around to even out the volumes then? |
| [17:48:00] | Dagmar: | Set the volume on your lamegrabber card |
| [17:48:10] | Dagmar: | ...or replace it with useful hardware |
| [17:48:43] | Vantage13: | Dagmar: lamegrabber card? |
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| [17:48:58] | Dagmar: | Yes, the bttv-driven card you mentioned you are using |
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| [17:49:25] | Vantage13: | Dagmar: how do you set the volume on it? I thought that's what ivtvctl did? |
| [17:49:43] | Dagmar: | ivtvctl has nothing to do with framegrabber cards |
| [17:50:03] | Vantage13: | Dagmar: I'm using a pair of PVR-150's btw |
| [17:50:08] | Dagmar: | There's stuff in the recording profiles to adjust the default volume for ivtv cards |
| [17:50:16] | Dagmar: | THen why did you even mention line-in? |
| [17:50:53] | Vantage13: | Dagmar: One card is using regular cable (tuner) the other is S-video with the audio line in from my set top box |
| [17:50:58] | Dagmar: | Ah... |
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| [17:54:46] | Vantage13: | Dagmar: so if I bump the volume with ivtvctl it's fine, but I can't store the value for some reason... |
| [17:54:57] | Dagmar: | Pay attention |
| [17:55:09] | Dagmar: | You set the default volume for ivtv cards in the recording profiles |
| [17:55:21] | Dagmar: | THe same place you set the capture resolution |
| [17:55:22] | Vantage13: | Dagmar: You can do that per card? |
| [17:55:42] | Vantage13: | Dagmar: that's mythtv-setup, right? |
| [17:55:52] | Dagmar: | Probably not, but you don't have another choice unless you see something in mythtv-setup |
| [17:56:08] | Dagmar: | No, this is in the frontend I'm talking about, although the same controls are in mythtv-setup |
| [17:56:31] | Dagmar: | Once you've run mythtv-setup, you generally never need to run it again for anything that doesn't involve a serious hardware or cable provider chaneg |
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| [18:03:36] | Vantage13: | Dagmar: thanks. I'll give that a try |
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| [18:30:04] | MrMist: | Hi all |
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| [18:30:13] | MrMist: | I'm having problems with automounting... |
| [18:30:52] | MrMist: | I've installed ivman, and made a symlink in my video directory. However, changing CD's doesn't seem to work |
| [18:31:08] | MrMist: | Anyone know what I'm doing wrong ? |
| [18:31:22] | Treito: | why you don't use hal/dbus? |
| [18:31:33] | MrMist: | Treito: huh ? |
| [18:31:40] | MrMist: | Treito: How ? |
| [18:31:55] | Treito: | distribution-specific |
| [18:32:16] | at0m|c: | hi, in my mythtv-setup i see now tuner2 instead of tuner0 as initially. tv shows as black&white noise, playback of old recordings and divx works fine. just seems that the current setup doesn't talk to the right tuner (i have only one, pvr350) |
| [18:32:21] | MrMist: | I'd appreciaite any help at all |
| [18:32:34] | Treito: | which distribution? |
| [18:32:41] | MrMist: | I'm running this on an ubuntu system |
| [18:32:50] | Treito: | feisty? |
| [18:32:55] | at0m|c: | running my usual distro, debian, here. the other boot was knoppmyth, from which i inserted the database |
| [18:33:14] | MrMist: | Treito: yep |
| [18:33:24] | Treito: | and you installe ivman?! |
| [18:33:35] | MrMist: | mhm |
| [18:33:39] | at0m|c: | any hints on having my myth talking to the right tuner again? (if that /is/ the problem) |
| [18:33:44] | Treito: | feisty comes with hal/dbus enabled ^^ |
| [18:34:13] | MrMist: | hmm... but the CD's don't mount automatically, do they ? |
| [18:34:38] | Treito: | if you enable the option in mythfrontend |
| [18:34:39] | at0m|c: | MrMist: depends on your /etc/fstab.bak |
| [18:34:41] | at0m|c: | oop |
| [18:34:44] | at0m|c: | MrMist: depends on your /etc/fstab |
| [18:35:04] | MrMist: | Treito: Where exactly do I do that ? |
| [18:35:13] | Treito: | good question |
| [18:35:17] | MrMist: | at0m|c: ... what options do I need there then ? |
| [18:35:35] | Treito: | setiings -> general or something, definitly in the frontend |
| [18:35:43] | Treito: | MrMist: feisty has ist |
| [18:35:47] | MrMist: | for automounting ? |
| [18:35:50] | Treito: | /s it |
| [18:35:57] | at0m|c: | MrMist: mine has a line like: |
| [18:36:00] | Treito: | for automounting with myth |
| [18:36:00] | at0m|c: | /dev/hde /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0 |
| [18:36:19] | Treito: | at0m|c: that's nearly standard |
| [18:36:27] | at0m|c: | hm that's noauto, should be auto to auto mount |
| [18:36:39] | at0m|c: | to play auto, see setup in mythfrontend |
| [18:36:45] | Treito: | at0m|c: noauto is correct for hal/dbus |
| [18:36:54] | at0m|c: | Treito: OKI, SORRY |
| [18:36:58] | at0m|c: | fek caps |
| [18:36:59] | Treito: | np |
| [18:37:11] | MrMist: | it SHOULD be noauto ? |
| [18:37:24] | Treito: | MrMist: don't change your fstab |
| [18:37:32] | MrMist: | /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 |
| [18:37:37] | Treito: | when using mythfrontend: noauto |
| [18:37:48] | MrMist: | This is my line |
| [18:37:59] | Dagmar: | Just make sure you don't screw it up like MrMist did |
| [18:38:10] | Treito: | /dev/scd0? feisty? not a fresh install |
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| [18:38:32] | MrMist: | Treito: sure is. It's a DVD drive. And it's XUbuntu, by the way |
| [18:38:35] | Dagmar: | Ack. Scratch that, I'm not used to seeing people try to use comma-delimited entries for fstype when 'auto' works so well |
| [18:38:53] | Treito: | MrMist: normally all new entries are by UUID |
| [18:39:29] | MrMist: | The HD's are by UUID |
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| [18:39:35] | SiD3WiNDR: | zoobuntu |
| [18:39:39] | Treito: | yes |
| [18:39:45] | Treito: | damn, my fault |
| [18:39:56] | kslater: | with a pvr-150 what's the input number for coax? |
| [18:40:00] | Dagmar: | noobuntu |
| [18:40:01] | Treito: | dvd and uuid would be a little bit strange |
| [18:40:16] | MrMist: | Then I'm not wrong :) |
| [18:40:23] | MrMist: | Any flags I should enable? |
| [18:40:35] | MrMist: | should I put in "atime" or something ? |
| [18:40:36] | Treito: | no, don't touch fstab |
| [18:40:55] | Treito: | put your hands away |
| [18:40:57] | MrMist: | what do I do then ? |
| [18:41:13] | Treito: | enabling media-monitoring in the frontend |
| [18:41:25] | Treito: | that's all |
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| [18:41:47] | Treito: | it's very simple |
| [18:41:59] | at0m|c: | MrMist: u don't have a mount problem then if i have it correctly, it's just autoplay in mythfrontend setup that's disabled i think |
| [18:42:18] | at0m|c: | see mythfrontend > setup |
| [18:42:35] | SiD3WiNDR: | talking about autoplay, I have a dvd and when I insert it mythtv starts up the picture browser instead of mythdvd |
| [18:42:48] | SiD3WiNDR: | can I prioritise the dvd part somehow? ;) |
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| [18:43:02] | Treito: | it's disabled by default |
| [18:43:12] | SiD3WiNDR: | it=? |
| [18:43:27] | SiD3WiNDR: | I have media monitoring set up, and "upon dvd insertion" "start mythdvd" |
| [18:44:01] | Treito: | it=media monitoring |
| [18:44:14] | Treito: | you have to check the checkbox |
| [18:44:43] | SiD3WiNDR: | see above |
| [18:45:12] | MrMist: | Treito: at0m|c: Hmm.. I see.. should I de-install ivman also them ? |
| [18:45:14] | MrMist: | then |
| [18:45:21] | Treito: | of course |
| [18:45:47] | at0m|c: | MrMist: for that autoplay checkbox, see mythfrontend > setup/utilities > setup > 3th or 4th page there |
| [18:45:52] | MrMist: | Found it |
| [18:45:55] | Treito: | why this is in the feisty-repository?! |
| [18:45:57] | at0m|c: | cooles |
| [18:46:00] | MrMist: | trying to boot now |
| [18:46:30] | MrMist: | Why in the world isn't that setting enabled by default ? |
| [18:46:35] | at0m|c: | for smth else... in my mythtv-setup i see now tuner2 instead of tuner0 as initially. tv shows as black&white noise, playback of old recordings and divx works fine. just seems that the current setup doesn't talk to the right tuner (i have only one, pvr350) |
| [18:46:53] | MrMist: | Treito: Do you know where the CD's are mounted then ? |
| [18:46:53] | at0m|c: | MrMist: cos most people want it like that |
| [18:47:20] | Treito: | MrMist: normally /media |
| [18:48:23] | MrMist: | hmmm |
| [18:48:28] | Treito: | but you do not need to know the mountpoint for myth |
| [18:48:33] | MrMist: | hehe... now my DVD won't eject |
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| [18:49:28] | Treito: | how do you want to eject? |
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| [18:49:52] | MrMist: | By pushing the eject button |
| [18:50:01] | Treito: | try by menu |
| [18:50:37] | MrMist: | hmm |
| [18:51:03] | MrMist: | nothing happened from the menu, but I was able to push the button now :D |
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| [18:54:10] | MrMist: | Thanks guys |
| [18:54:12] | MrMist: | :) |
| [18:54:33] | MrMist: | It's a bit of a hassle having to select it from the menu first, but I'll survive :D |
| [18:54:47] | MrMist: | cya |
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| [18:56:04] | Treito: | but installing ivman and tries to setup it is much better? :-D |
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| [19:09:33] | Algaeman: | Is there a list of the command line parameters somewhere? |
| [19:11:23] | laga: | Algaeman: mythfrontend --help; mythbackend --help etc |
| [19:11:27] | at0m|c: | Algaeman: tried the man page? |
| [19:11:36] | Algaeman: | ah, I was just trying mythtv --help |
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| [19:12:56] | laga: | you generally don't run 2mythtv" |
| [19:13:04] | psofa: | anyone knows of a player that could seek on the http streams of mythweb? |
| [19:13:05] | laga: | it's either mythbackend or mythfrontend |
| [19:18:06] | Algaeman: | maybe you generally don't run mythtv. I do |
| [19:18:49] | offset: | I know that zap2it is closing the direct data service on September 1'st, but when i update now, i'm only getting data for around 10 channels. anyone else having this problem? |
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| [19:26:17] | GreyFoxx: | psofa: Nothing will |
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| [19:29:11] | erpo: | My mythtv box is recording everything in black and white (grayscale). It's not an output problem. When I play the mpeg files on another computer, the picture is in black and white too. What can I do? |
| [19:29:38] | erpo: | This just started happening today. I didn't make any changes to the system. |
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| [19:33:20] | Tanthrix: | erpo: Which card? |
| [19:37:30] | erpo: | Tanthrix: WinTV PVR-150 MCE |
| [19:38:32] | Tanthrix: | I'd say update your ivtv driver to the latest |
| [19:38:46] | erpo: | Tanthrix: lspci -v says it's "Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) |
| [19:38:46] | erpo: | MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)" |
| [19:38:47] | Tanthrix: | Probably some quirky driver issue that would be fixed by doing that |
| [19:38:56] | erpo: | Tanthrix: I'll give it a try. |
| [19:39:17] | Tanthrix: | Or, if you wanted to first, turn the computer off, then unplug it from the wall and wait 30 seconds |
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| [19:39:44] | Tanthrix: | Sounds silly, but it has been unknown to fix some problems that a normal reboot would not |
| [19:39:51] | erpo: | Tanthrix: I've had this problem before once and that fixed it. However, I don't want to have to keep doing this. |
| [19:40:26] | Tanthrix: | Yah, for me whenever I rebooted I lost audio and had to do the unplug trick. Updating the driver fixed that for good. |
| [19:40:47] | erpo: | Tanthrix: mmm.... |
| [19:41:22] | Tanthrix: | That was a while back though, not sure what driver version was giving me the trouble |
| [19:42:08] | erpo: | Fixes for my problem are not listed in the changelog... |
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| [20:25:38] | psofa: | GreyFoxx, well cant it fake seeking? |
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| [20:25:51] | psofa: | as in open a new connection at point to seek |
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| [20:40:31] | kslater: | have a really strange on here – helping a buddy with a mythtv setup. mythtvsetup displays the theme correctly, mythfrontend shows a funcky green/orange/black combo |
| [20:40:40] | kslater: | any ideas on what we should check? |
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| [21:03:28] | Mersault: | how do I make mythfrontend log more verbosely? especially the mythmusic plugin. scanning my music collection causes it to lock up, I want to know why. |
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| [21:17:08] | janneg: | Mersault: mythfrontend -v help |
| [21:17:50] | janneg: | and please be a little more patient |
| [21:19:01] | Mersault: | worked though :) |
| [21:19:18] | Mersault: | *sigh*.... needs the x server |
| [21:23:17] | Daviey: | Mersault: then direct it to the X server |
| [21:23:42] | Daviey: | If X is started, presumably 'DISPLAY=:0 mythfrontend -v' |
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| [21:34:15] | Mersault: | I have x running... but on an SD tv, with no other monitor. it would be nice if there was a man page so I could do this remotely through ssh |
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| [21:44:16] | Octane: | hey all, veteran mythtv user here, i know a new release hasn't come out since september 06, but wondering what some of the more expert users are doing as it relates to having the latest? |
| [21:44:28] | Octane: | i still run .19 ;) |
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| [21:47:48] | Tanthrix: | erpo: Doesn't matter, still probably a good idea. |
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| [22:19:04] | ShockValue: | xris or mchou awake yet? :) |
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| [22:38:34] | ShockValue: | ok, if i tune my dct6200 to channel 108 (PBS HD) and run firewire_tester, I just get a stream of: P2P: Testing...Failed |
| [22:38:47] | ShockValue: | and if i tune it to 662 (TNT HD) and run it, it works dandy |
| [22:39:14] | ShockValue: | ive hooked the cable box straight to the TV, and 108 comes in just dandy, so i know the channel is there and good |
| [22:40:52] | ShockValue: | i've tried many different ways to get my machine to give me the diagnostic info (5c encrypt status) but it refuses to cooperate. i enter diagnostic mode, and it lets me scroll through d1-d12 but then I hit "ok" or "right arrow" on any of them its just blank |
| [22:41:06] | ShockValue: | "my machine"= dct6200 |
| [22:42:04] | ShockValue: | any thoughts on what im missing? |
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| [22:57:02] | Tanthrix: | ShockValue: Well, if some channels work, and some don't, that's a pretty good sign the ones that don't have 5C |
| [22:57:59] | Tanthrix: | On my setup I get everything but PBS HD and NBC HD, so even OTA stuff can be 5C-ed despite it not being legal |
| [22:59:59] | Tanthrix: | (My setup = firewire out from Motorolla DCT3412) |
| [23:00:48] | Tanthrix: | They come through in the clear through QAM though, so I just bought a cheapie ATSC tuner to get them |
| [23:00:59] | Tanthrix: | er, ATSC/QAM tuner |
| [23:20:00] | erpo: | DRM is just about the worst thing ever invented. |
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| [23:55:26] | phillywhitetrash: | anyone here use mythdora with a 64bit microprocessor? |
| [23:57:40] | achew22: | phillywhitetrash, I did, why? |
| [23:58:39] | phillywhitetrash: | was wondering if you can do it from the default 4.0 dvd |
| [23:58:59] | phillywhitetrash: | (mythdora 4.0 dvd} |
| [23:59:00] | achew22: | yeah — it will just emulate i686 or i386 mode |
| [23:59:19] | achew22: | phillywhitetrash, little speed degredation but it wasn't noticable for me |
| [23:59:20] | phillywhitetrash: | but not true 64bit rite? |
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