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| [00:12:20] | fxfitz: | Hello! I'm looking to install Myth TV on my Ubuntu desktop, but I do not have a TV tuner. I'm wondering if anyone suggests any particular card that doesn't cost too much and is known to work, and hopefully comes with a remote. |
| [00:13:12] | kormoc: | fxfitz, pvr 150 |
| [00:13:57] | fxfitz: | kormoc, One thing that I was interested in was TV-Out. Are there any cards that support that as well??? |
| [00:14:18] | kormoc: | just grab a nvidia gfx card |
| [00:15:10] | fxfitz: | But I'm not looking for something too expensive. I don't want to go buying a new video card as well as a TV tuner. :( |
| [00:15:45] | kormoc: | the only tv card with tv out is the pvr 350, which is more costly then a nvidia + pvr 150, and won't do a lot of stuff |
| [00:16:12] | fxfitz: | Oooooh, okay. :-P |
| [00:16:26] | fxfitz: | Hehe. Do you recommend any Nvidia cards too? :-P |
| [00:16:50] | kormoc: | I use a 6200 for my main mythbox, works fine |
| [00:17:01] | kormoc: | 5200 or newer should work fine |
| [00:17:46] | fxfitz: | kormoc, http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr150.html ;— It looks like that it has S-Video... |
| [00:17:56] | kormoc: | input, yes |
| [00:18:06] | fxfitz: | Oh. :-P |
| [00:18:09] | fxfitz: | Gosh darn. |
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| [00:19:23] | quink: | hello |
| [00:20:26] | fxfitz: | Hello! |
| [00:20:26] | quink: | any of you use xine and have it pipe audio to an ac3 device? |
| [00:20:42] | ** fxfitz headshakes. ** | |
| [00:20:51] | ** de-v headbangs. ** | |
| [00:21:16] | quink: | ? |
| [00:21:24] | de-v: | O_o |
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| [00:30:51] | juski: | quink: yep. minimyth takes care of all the configuration guff for me. I just specify "analog+digital" in a config file & my epia frontend obeys :) |
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| [00:32:16] | quink: | juski: wanna post your xine config file? |
| [00:32:35] | quink: | its giving out audio via spdif but only 2 channel. |
| [00:33:03] | juski: | not a xine config file.. a minimyth.conf. I tell it "digital+analog" it takes care of the rest |
| [00:33:14] | quink: | never heard of minimyth |
| [00:33:18] | juski: | quink: you sure the ac3 stream is surround? |
| [00:33:21] | quink: | yep |
| [00:33:24] | juski: | ac3 can be stereo too |
| [00:33:36] | quink: | with the internal player its surround |
| [00:33:42] | quink: | its a HD rip of a movie |
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| [01:13:02] | Dagmar: | Okay. THis is baffling. |
| [01:13:22] | Dagmar: | THe osd stuff doesn't behave like I thought it did |
| [01:15:18] | Dagmar: | An area of 640,60,80,80 seems to wind up off the screen somehow |
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| [01:18:41] | Anduin: | Dagmar: It isn't x,y,w,h? |
| [01:20:46] | Dagmar: | I *thought* it was |
| [01:21:09] | kormoc: | what res screen? |
| [01:21:15] | Dagmar: | I mean, 640,60 80x80 should really be within the viewable area |
| [01:21:18] | Dagmar: | 800x600 |
| [01:21:21] | Dagmar: | er sd |
| [01:21:44] | Dagmar: | I thought for a moment it might scale for the screen res in use, but that would just mean it would still be visible, since I'm running at 1024x768 |
| [01:22:00] | Dagmar: | ...trying to find some hints about fademovement now |
| [01:22:06] | kormoc: | try setting it to 100x100 and see where it ends up |
| [01:22:29] | Anduin: | 640 x is very close, you are aiming for the right edge? |
| [01:23:05] | Dagmar: | 640 puts it at farx-(farx/10*2) |
| [01:23:23] | Dagmar: | I'm aiming to have it bump the right edge of the safe title area |
| [01:23:27] | Dagmar: | er bumper |
| [01:23:50] | Dagmar: | Are the OSD coordinates not based on the usual aspect for sd? |
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| [01:24:52] | Dagmar: | Man this is wacky |
| [01:25:58] | Dagmar: | 0,0 winds up in the absolute upper left like it should |
| [01:26:14] | Dagmar: | From adjusting align the bounding box appears to be the expected size... |
| [01:27:15] | Dagmar: | THis is freaking based on 640x480 or something |
| [01:27:17] | Dagmar: | It's just got to be |
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| [01:27:56] | Dagmar: | Left aligned 400,0 should start in mid-screen |
| [01:28:23] | Dagmar: | Sure enough, 320,0 lands dead center |
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| [01:32:19] | HReadren: | xris, you there? |
| [01:33:10] | Dagmar: | Yep. THis is nuts. I could have sworn theme coordinates were supposed to be based on a range of 800x600 for sd |
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| [01:58:01] | Dagmar: | Wow this is annoying |
| [01:58:36] | Dagmar: | That really just should not be that way. BOth OSD and menu themes should use the same size grid |
| [02:00:29] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah, seems to me that when I first started making Gray-OSD that threw me off too |
| [02:00:49] | Dagmar: | WEll, I'm just irked because it means the theme elements are going to be 2x scaled for me |
| [02:00:55] | Dagmar: | ...meaning they're probably going to look blurry |
| [02:01:14] | Dagmar: | ...or at least more blurry than what happens with the menu theme graphics |
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| [02:07:51] | Dagmar: | It's also kinda unamusing that I have to go rescale everything now. |
| [02:08:00] | Dagmar: | At least I have that I'm working with SVG in my favor |
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| [02:27:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx: you still around? did you ever have any issues with the audio volume on the RM4100? I've adjusted everything up to max and it's still quite low. tried it on a pair of external amplified computer speekers and my bedroom TV and still the same. |
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| [02:40:28] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: USed alsamixer to push it all up ? I ran into that at first but just used alsamixer to max all of the outputs |
| [02:41:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, pretty sure. I pushed them up, saved the output config and just load that in my .xinitrc. I'll doublecheck, maybe I used amixer, can't recall off the top of my head, just wanted to ask since I saw you post a while ago. :) thanks. |
| [02:46:56] | GreyFoxx: | I used alsamixer, pused them up and then just alsactl store to save it |
| [02:49:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | odd, alsamixer won't run, amixer did though and there were a couple that were lower than I thought. I bumped them up and verified the .aumixrc has the maxxed values now. my alsa config must not be setup right. I created this nfsroot off my wife's system, so I might not have configured something correctly with that when I setup sound for the RM4100. |
| [02:49:38] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'll check into it thought. just wanted to make sure there wasnt' something like the msntv-on program. :) |
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| [02:54:27] | teksimian: | if there was a prebuilt myth-tv box, i'd buy it. |
| [02:56:44] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: Hehe actually Iuse to have a msntv-mute for enabling the audio outputs (outside of alsa and such) but that same functionality got rolled into the stage2 bootloader so I dropped it |
| [02:57:47] | GreyFoxx: | Use to have to flip a bit on the super controller just like for controlling the LED's in order to enable audio outputs :) |
| [02:58:31] | GreyFoxx: | teksimian: I think there are a few companies selling just such a thing |
| [02:58:46] | GreyFoxx: | Don't ask me their names though as I don't really track that kind of thing |
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| [03:21:50] | teksimian: | does mythtv work with just regular, old school analog cable? |
| [03:22:37] | Dr_willis: | analog? you mean a RCA input video cable? |
| [03:22:46] | Dr_willis: | or normal tv coax to the tuner? |
| [03:23:17] | teksimian: | the coax that just plugs right into the back of the tv. |
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| [03:25:58] | opello: | teksimian: yeah |
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| [03:30:41] | teksimian: | cool :) |
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| [05:26:55] | Mattwj2005: | Gooding morning room |
| [05:28:04] | Mattwj2005: | anyone home? :) |
| [05:29:09] | kormoc: | no |
| [05:29:15] | Mattwj2005: | hehe |
| [05:29:17] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay |
| [05:29:19] | Mattwj2005: | :D |
| [05:29:37] | Mattwj2005: | yeah I am tired of paying $60 per month for cable |
| [05:29:48] | Mattwj2005: | I am dropping down to basic on Tuesday |
| [05:31:49] | Mattwj2005: | I will still get OTA HD in the US right? |
| [05:32:07] | kormoc: | depends on the cable co |
| [05:32:17] | Mattwj2005: | comcast |
| [05:32:25] | kormoc: | depends on your local office |
| [05:32:55] | Mattwj2005: | okay :) |
| [05:33:04] | Mattwj2005: | good enough |
| [05:33:13] | Mattwj2005: | how are you kormoc my friend? :) |
| [05:36:09] | Mattwj2005: | by the way.... |
| [05:36:29] | Mattwj2005: | newest version of knoppmyth is awesome thanks to the great work of this group :) |
| [05:37:05] | Mattwj2005: | I especially like the clear channels only option for HDTV |
| [05:37:42] | Mattwj2005: | I have a HDHomeRun for HD |
| [05:38:47] | [R]: | i'm gonna pay $130 for cable and interent and pay it proudly... even though i'll nkow its a rip off |
| [05:40:10] | kormoc: | FIOS + Disk = $65 a month for tv and internet |
| [05:40:13] | kormoc: | doin' well Mattwj2005 |
| [05:40:14] | Mattwj2005: | the price difference between my old package and basic cable was ~ $60 |
| [05:40:33] | Mattwj2005: | yup :) |
| [05:40:44] | Mattwj2005: | FiOS is not in my area though |
| [05:40:58] | Mattwj2005: | it'll be hear before long though |
| [05:40:59] | Mattwj2005: | :) |
| [05:41:33] | Mattwj2005: | comcast will be on *swear word* |
| [05:41:40] | Mattwj2005: | *oh |
| [05:44:41] | Mattwj2005: | kormoc what up and download speed do you get? |
| [05:44:46] | kormoc: | 5/2 |
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| [05:45:06] | Mattwj2005: | Mbps |
| [05:45:12] | kormoc: | yup |
| [05:45:14] | Mattwj2005: | what are the tiers like? |
| [05:45:20] | charlieS: | so I have comcast, and I have a PVR-150 direct-attached. I added a zap lineup with just basic cable... to get the listing for that. I also have firewire – for which I need the full digital lineup. But I deleted them, and now I can't get them back. Ideas? |
| [05:45:26] | kormoc: | 5/2, 15/2, 30/5 |
| [05:45:38] | Mattwj2005: | I would go for the 30 :D |
| [05:46:09] | ** charlieS pokes around the db schemas again — there *must* be something there that's preventing the full lineup from populating.... ** | |
| [05:46:27] | Mattwj2005: | I want it so fast I don't even hit enter or click the mouse and it is there |
| [05:46:28] | Mattwj2005: | :P |
| [05:47:06] | Mattwj2005: | I want it so fast Google is jealous :P |
| [05:47:24] | charlieS: | hah – they have 10GbE links all over the place :) |
| [05:47:43] | Mattwj2005: | OC192 to my door is find |
| [05:47:55] | Mattwj2005: | straight to bgp ip any any |
| [05:47:57] | Mattwj2005: | ;) |
| [05:47:59] | kormoc: | so do so. Noone is stoping you |
| [05:48:11] | Mattwj2005: | my checking account is :P |
| [05:48:37] | ** cesman is away: Gone away for now. ** | |
| [05:48:41] | charlieS: | heh |
| [05:48:44] | cesman is now known as cesman_away | |
| [05:49:18] | Mattwj2005: | OC-192 is a network line with transmission speeds of up to 9953.28 Mbit/s (payload: 9621.504 Mbit/s; overhead: 331.776 Mbit/s). This is the fastest connection commonly available on the Internet. |
| [05:49:25] | Mattwj2005: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OC192 |
| [05:49:49] | charlieS: | yeah.. 10G is the mac right now. but wave division multiplexing allows multiple 10G links over the same fiber. |
| [05:50:02] | charlieS: | s/mac/max |
| [05:50:20] | Mattwj2005: | yeah in the field at least |
| [05:50:20] | kormoc: | which is why you need a I2 link, http://www.internet2.edu/lsr/ |
| [05:50:27] | charlieS: | anyway.. tell me how to get the full channel listings after I stupidly deleted them :P |
| [05:50:56] | kormoc: | 80 gigabit a second |
| [05:51:05] | charlieS: | kormoc: it's not as great as it sounds. and the NLR (national lamdba rail) is better anyway. |
| [05:51:12] | Mattwj2005: | buy an OCM 192 |
| [05:51:31] | Mattwj2005: | build a fast large computer cluster |
| [05:51:39] | Mattwj2005: | build a seach engine :) |
| [05:51:46] | charlieS: | sure I2 has high speeds... but no content there. Thought I do find some good torrents every once in a while :) |
| [05:52:06] | Mattwj2005: | lol |
| [05:52:15] | charlieS: | though* ..argh |
| [05:52:19] | kormoc: | I2 has more content then NLR, more universities :P |
| [05:52:26] | Mattwj2005: | make sure you accidently have an access point open too ;) |
| [05:53:01] | charlieS: | ivtv seg faults when you give it unexpected arguments (like, leave out an equals sign).. wtf is wrong with people? These are fundamental problems – of 20 years ago! |
| [05:53:05] | Mattwj2005: | heck better yet give your neighborhood free wifi |
| [05:53:07] | charlieS: | ivtvctl, that is. |
| [05:53:19] | kormoc: | charlieS, feel free to fix it |
| [05:53:26] | charlieS: | kormoc: I have a job :P |
| [05:53:29] | t0ny-p40: | haha, hdmi to mail dvi http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E14FW4/r . . . 0735-9395023 |
| [05:53:48] | kormoc: | charlieS, so does everyone else, so might not want to bitch bout your free software |
| [05:54:12] | charlieS: | bitching is fine, especially when there's POOR programming afoot. |
| [05:54:28] | charlieS: | don't get me started on lirc.. |
| [05:54:32] | kormoc: | charlieS, so don't use it if it's so poor |
| [05:54:39] | charlieS: | heh |
| [05:54:57] | Mattwj2005: | what is a HDmi To Mail Dvi Inline Adapte? |
| [05:54:59] | Mattwj2005: | :S |
| [05:55:16] | kormoc: | and in any case, this isn't the proper place to bitch about things, so don't |
| [05:55:18] | Mattwj2005: | what is a Mail Dvi Inline Adapte |
| [05:55:24] | charlieS: | lol, that'ss awesome |
| [05:55:27] | kormoc: | Mattwj2005, that's the joke |
| [05:55:35] | Mattwj2005: | lol |
| [05:55:38] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay heeh |
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| [07:36:20] | samesame: | has anyone here managed to get mythtv working on a xen dom0 |
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| [07:41:36] | samesame: | "But it is running reliably, even when recording 3 simulaneous programs in MythTV, playing programs back to my two frontends, making phone calls with Asterisk, and people hitting the web servers – all at once. The most CPU intensive task is probably commercial flagging recorded programs in MythTV, and that doesn't even bother the machine. I still have 203 meg of memory unallocated too.. Hmm, what else can I do..." |
| [07:42:32] | hads: | ? |
| [07:42:50] | samesame: | http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/CoolConfigurations |
| [07:43:14] | hads: | So you quoted it here why? |
| [07:43:55] | kormoc: | he's lonely |
| [07:44:02] | samesame: | i could run mythtv on xen dom0 and i could run other software like postfix, bind on xen domu to keep things seperate |
| [07:44:33] | kormoc: | yeah, so? |
| [07:44:46] | samesame: | postfix and bind dont need x so i can save memory |
| [07:44:59] | samesame: | so that means i have 2 machines on 1 server |
| [07:45:15] | kormoc: | yeah, so? |
| [07:45:35] | samesame: | i was told that mythtv behaves better if its not mixed with other processes, so seperating like this is the way to go |
| [07:46:00] | samesame: | this is powerful stuff |
| [07:46:03] | kormoc: | other machines still count as other processes |
| [07:46:22] | samesame: | yes but at least they are seperate |
| [07:46:28] | kormoc: | they arn't |
| [07:46:33] | hads: | That advise is dubious anyway though. It would be up to you to test out for yourself. |
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| [07:46:46] | samesame: | ok |
| [07:46:59] | kormoc: | infact all you are doing is adding complexity, it's still the same hardware doing the same stuff |
| [07:47:09] | samesame: | do u guys run other stuff as well as mythtv on the same box? |
| [07:47:14] | kormoc: | yes |
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| [07:47:18] | hads: | yes |
| [07:47:22] | samesame: | does your mythtv skip frames? |
| [07:47:26] | kormoc: | it doesn't |
| [07:47:31] | hads: | no |
| [07:47:54] | samesame: | somone told me here that you should only run mythtv only on the box, nothing else otherwise its possible mythtv will skip frames? |
| [07:48:16] | kormoc: | if it skips frames with the stuff on the same machine, adding in virtual machines won't keep it from skipping frames |
| [07:48:19] | hads: | 19:46:33 < hads> That advise is dubious anyway though. It would be up to you to test out for yourself. |
| [07:48:26] | samesame: | ok |
| [07:48:38] | samesame: | what kind of software have u got running along mythtv? |
| [07:48:44] | kormoc: | yes, depending on the load, things can cause frame skipping |
| [07:48:53] | samesame: | i was thinking about installing asterisk + postfix + bind and maybe squid |
| [07:48:56] | hads: | Putting a question mark on the end of a sentance isn't the only thing that is required to make a question. |
| [07:49:45] | SiD3WiNDR: | hmm |
| [07:49:49] | samesame: | if your processor can handle the load there shouldnt be a problem |
| [07:49:50] | kormoc: | samesame, the other software doesn't matter, all that matters is the disk io, cpu time, and memory requirements of the other software |
| [07:49:50] | SiD3WiNDR: | I seem to have read this conversation before |
| [07:50:15] | hads: | Yup |
| [07:50:35] | kormoc: | samesame, no amount of vitalization will increase those items |
| [07:50:35] | SiD3WiNDR: | [08|09:32:40] < Dagmar> ...and I will say one last time... Squid should be entirely out of the question |
| [07:50:53] | samesame: | yes i rememeber |
| [07:51:06] | samesame: | maybe u can configure squid to use only a certain amount of memory |
| [07:51:37] | hads: | Seriously. Test. It. For. Your. Self. |
| [07:51:48] | samesame: | ok |
| [07:51:56] | samesame: | everyones setups are different |
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| [07:56:34] | Blaksmith: | quick Q... is there a way to have Myth change channel, but not record? |
| [07:56:47] | anykey__: | Blaksmith: no |
| [07:56:58] | Blaksmith: | hmmm ok.. |
| [07:57:07] | anykey__: | Blaksmith: it's a PVR, personal video *recorder* |
| [07:57:16] | Blaksmith: | more than one way to do it though... I guess set up a manual timer for like 5 min or so |
| [07:57:33] | Blaksmith: | ya, but like waking up to the news in the am too hehe |
| [07:57:45] | Blaksmith: | don't want to record the news all the time |
| [07:58:56] | hads: | myth records everything you watch. |
| [07:59:03] | Blaksmith: | ya, I know.. |
| [07:59:14] | Blaksmith: | I use myth with my pansat 3500 :) |
| [08:00:11] | samesame: | ive installed mythtv on my Commodore Vic 20 |
| [08:00:19] | Blaksmith: | hehe |
| [08:01:13] | Blaksmith: | still debating about getting a card that can run the motor on my dish... |
| [08:01:21] | Blaksmith: | so myth can run the motor... |
| [08:01:34] | samesame: | i thinking about porting mythtv over to the Acorn BBC Micro |
| [08:02:08] | Blaksmith: | cool.. |
| [08:02:23] | Blaksmith: | ok, well, if nobody minds, I'll idle here a while :) sleep calls hehe |
| [08:03:50] | hads: | Argh. No love from the XMLTV mailman server :( |
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| [08:37:30] | DGnome: | Hi, is there a howto including dvb-s and diseqc anywhere, sortof having problems :/ |
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| [08:49:28] | padd173: | When I connect the antenna (a 20m long cable from the roof) to my PC, the fuse goes down on the entire appartment – anyone has any idea what might be wrong here? |
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| [08:53:37] | DGnome: | padd173: either you have som electricity leaking from the antenna or something else is totally screwed, hire an electrician :) |
| [08:53:49] | padd173: | DGnome: Ok! |
| [08:54:07] | joakim: | padd173: I think it's a wonder your computer still works. |
| [08:54:13] | padd173: | :-) |
| [08:54:14] | padd173: | DGnome: What kind of electricity could be leaking from an antenna? |
| [08:54:24] | padd173: | DGnome: Of the 'Static' type? |
| [08:54:37] | DGnome: | padd173: Do you have an amplifyer? |
| [08:54:37] | Sid`: | you're probably leaking current (from your tuner) to earth (via your antenna) and tripping your RCD |
| [08:54:41] | Sid`: | that'd be my guess anyhow |
| [08:54:51] | padd173: | aha |
| [08:54:52] | padd173: | thx |
| [08:55:10] | Sid`: | is it your RCD that's going, or a breaker? |
| [08:57:34] | padd173: | um |
| [08:57:44] | padd173: | what's RCD? (I live in Greece, I'm not familiar with US terms) |
| [08:57:54] | padd173: | & what would a breaker be? |
| [08:57:55] | Sid`: | i'm in Australia, dunno what they call em in the US |
| [08:58:19] | Sid`: | but an RCD is a device that checks for current leakage to earth, and trips if it sees any ('safety switch, etc') |
| [08:58:24] | Sid`: | stands for 'residual current device' |
| [08:58:32] | padd173: | I have no idea |
| [08:58:37] | Sid`: | what is going? |
| [08:58:38] | padd173: | I'll hire an electrician to come over |
| [08:59:01] | padd173: | All the lights turn off (that's all I know) and I have to raise a small thingy to turn lights back on |
| [08:59:12] | Sid`: | ah |
| [08:59:17] | Sid`: | thats a breaker of some sort |
| [08:59:23] | Sid`: | either an inline breaker for the circuit, or your RCD |
| [08:59:24] | padd173: | a |
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| [09:24:55] | gbee: | sphery: #3426 – I'm wondering is why no-one noticed this earlier? Plenty of people use mythrename yet it's been broken since October |
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| [10:29:24] | sphery: | gbee: I think no one noticed it since most people's recordings probably have starttime = recstartts and since it only affects people who use mythrename.pl to actually rename files (as opposed to creating links). |
| [10:30:08] | sphery: | So, for those people, a few recordings may not have been renamed. The others would have (so they may not have even noticed the few that weren't). |
| [10:30:25] | gbee: | sphery: yeah, you're right |
| [10:31:58] | sphery: | It's also quite possible that those who did notice the few were afraid to report it thinking it was a configuration/user error. |
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| [13:13:59] | TSCHAKWerk: | morning all |
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| [13:25:53] | wastrel: | hi |
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| [13:42:01] | Pete_: | I know mythfrontend can rip cd's, but is there a plugin just for dumb cd playback? |
| [13:42:35] | directhex|work: | mythmusic will do cd playback, but it's not enormously dumb |
| [13:44:02] | Pete_: | Not something I personally use, just some people are looking for cd playback similar to dvd playback, ie put the disc in and off it goes. Sorry for being lazy and asking ;) |
| [13:45:32] | directhex|work: | you could misappropriate the VCD playback option at a stretch (make it launch a cd player app instead of vcd player) |
| [13:46:54] | Pete_: | It'd really need to be something inside myth, this is a computer in the kitchen, mainly controlled by a remote. |
| [13:48:25] | Zider: | CDDA playback belongs more in "optical disk" menu than mythmusic.. imo :P |
| [13:48:50] | Pete_: | Thats where I looked at first |
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| [14:01:29] | thoraxe: | there currently aren't a lot of optical audio out drivers are there? |
| [14:03:52] | directhex|work: | you mean sound cards with optical out? |
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| [14:10:18] | wastrel: | bah i have 2 tuner cards free from friend and neither are supported :] |
| [14:11:21] | laga: | weird |
| [14:11:29] | laga: | i have five tuner cards and all are supported |
| [14:12:34] | gbee: | probably pretty old cards and almost certainly framegrabbers |
| [14:12:45] | wastrel: | wintv-d and an all in wonder |
| [14:12:53] | wastrel: | all-in-wonder |
| [14:13:03] | wastrel: | ah well, i'll have to buy my own i guess |
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| [14:13:41] | gbee: | Pete_: mythmusic does CD playback and will do it automatically when you put in the CD |
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| [14:14:14] | Pete_: | Thats just what im looking for, maybe I set that frontend to auto rip on insert |
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| [14:17:29] | gbee: | under the general settings of mythmusic is the option to auto play a CD, you also need the 'Monitor CD/DVD' option enabled in mythtv's general settings |
| [14:18:53] | Pete_: | I know I have "Monitor CD/DVD" enabled, as dvds auto play, just waiting for it to update my collection before I can do anything else.. |
| [14:21:18] | gbee: | it could be faster/smoother, will take a look at that now that I've noticed the issue |
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| [14:21:48] | gbee: | and the mediamonitor could be a little smarter, just tried to load mythgallery with one of my CDs |
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| [14:25:28] | Kevorkian: | SO .. are we having fun yet ? |
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| [14:28:06] | Pete_: | "Searching for music files.." followed by "Updating music database" just to play a cd? (or am I missing something_ |
| [14:28:08] | Pete_: | )* |
| [14:29:40] | gbee: | Pete_: only does that once |
| [14:30:23] | gbee: | the first time you use mythmusic it loads the list of available tracks into the database, which is extremely slow with 0.20, a lot faster in SVN |
| [14:45:52] | Kevorkian: | is lircd generally considered 'stable' .. im using a pvr 250 and a happauge grey remote and it works great ... sometimes .. |
| [14:46:33] | directhex|work: | lirc is "mature" software |
| [14:47:27] | TSCHAKWerk: | yes, but there seems to be an argument over the quality of the code |
| [14:48:48] | Kevorkian: | This is weird .. in myth it works only when it wants to .. lke I can press up a few times and it doesnt register .. but then other times it works fine .. but if I drop back to a shell .. all the number keys work perfect .. |
| [14:49:01] | Kevorkian: | I have been unable to figure out where the issue is |
| [14:49:30] | Kevorkian: | the keyboard on the box controls myth fine .. even when the remote dont want to work |
| [14:52:26] | Kevorkian: | lircd should simply take the remote keypresses and present them to the shell ( or app ) as if they were normal keystrokes ?? |
| [14:59:55] | sphery: | Kevorkian: what remote? |
| [15:00:28] | Kevorkian: | happauage grey .. into a pvr250 |
| [15:00:39] | sphery: | infra-red, then, right? |
| [15:00:43] | Kevorkian: | yea |
| [15:01:09] | sphery: | OK. I'd have useful comments if it were radio-frequency, but none for that... |
| [15:01:11] | directhex|work: | Kevorkian, lircd doesn't quite do that – it runs its own protocol which apps need to understand (it does NOT just present keystrokes, as standard |
| [15:02:48] | sphery: | Kevorkian: I recommend running irw (while also running Myth). It will be just another "client" on the lircd socket and will show you when a remote button press is received. |
| [15:02:56] | Kevorkian: | hmmm .. directhex|work .. Perhaps something is missconfigured then .. if I do open a shell .. and press teh numbers on the remote .. I get them on teh command line as if it was typed on a keyboard |
| [15:03:01] | sphery: | Chances are LIRC isn't "getting" the button presses.... |
| [15:03:31] | directhex|work: | Kevorkian, that sounds VERY strange. can you pastebin your lircrc? |
| [15:06:03] | Kevorkian: | sure .. its stock knoppmyth tho .. I have made no changes to it myself .. other then whatever knopp made during its install ... http://pastebin.ca/558861 |
| [15:06:17] | sphery: | The most likely reason for LIRC to miss a button press is due to timing issues (which can affect serial receivers, but I don't know if it affects the i2c receivers), i.e. from using kernel's CONFIG_HZ of 100 or 250. You should use 1000 for a Myth box. |
| [15:06:49] | sphery: | When Myth misses a button press, you don't see it in irw, right? |
| [15:07:40] | Kevorkian: | correct .. however .. I have seen myth react to a keypress that I have missed in irw |
| [15:07:41] | directhex|work: | nothing in that lircrc suggests anyting should be appearing in a console to me :x |
| [15:08:27] | sphery: | Oh... I think that's the issue... |
| [15:08:45] | sphery: | Sounds like the kernel's keyboard driver for the Hauppauge remote is loaded... |
| [15:10:00] | Kevorkian: | hmmm |
| [15:10:27] | Kevorkian: | so how do I make that go away ? |
| [15:10:46] | sphery: | I can't remember the name of the module... What do you get from /sbin/lsmod |
| [15:11:42] | Kevorkian: | ir_kbd_i2c 10640 1 saa7134 ??? could that be it ? |
| [15:11:48] | sphery: | that's it... |
| [15:11:48] | directhex|work: | that's a tv tuner |
| [15:11:53] | sphery: | You'll need to blacklist it |
| [15:11:57] | directhex|work: | no wait, i was looking at te wrong column |
| [15:12:20] | ** sphery doesn't know how to blacklist modules on KnoppMyth... ** | |
| [15:12:21] | Kevorkian: | the reciver is built into the tuner card |
| [15:12:44] | sphery: | Yeah. directhex|work saw the saa7134 and missed the ir_kbd_i2c |
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| [15:14:01] | Kevorkian: | so how would I simply unload it ? |
| [15:14:14] | sphery: | rmmod ir_kbd_i2c |
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| [15:14:26] | fysafysa: | which remote is it? |
| [15:14:26] | sphery: | (as root/with sudo/whatever) |
| [15:14:59] | Kevorkian: | happauage grey fysafysa |
| [15:15:00] | sphery: | Hauppauge remote. He wants to use LIRC (and I don't blame him because it's much more powerful). |
| [15:15:06] | mkrufky: | where is the *official* place to submit feature requests? or should i just say it here, for conversation's sake? |
| [15:15:50] | fysafysa: | are you using a single ~/.lircrc? |
| [15:15:51] | fysafysa: | begin |
| [15:15:53] | fysafysa: | prog = mythtv |
| [15:15:55] | fysafysa: | button = up |
| [15:15:57] | fysafysa: | config = Up |
| [15:15:59] | fysafysa: | repeat = 2 |
| [15:16:01] | fysafysa: | delay = 1 |
| [15:16:03] | fysafysa: | end |
| [15:16:20] | Kevorkian: | fysafysa, the issue seems to be that it is also acting as a keyboard |
| [15:16:24] | sphery: | mkrufky: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Feature_Wishlist |
| [15:16:30] | mkrufky: | thanks, sphery |
| [15:16:31] | sphery: | but you can mention it here just for fun. |
| [15:16:33] | fysafysa: | if not, maybe you should try. |
| [15:16:35] | mkrufky: | ok then: |
| [15:16:38] | fysafysa: | mine does that too. |
| [15:16:55] | fysafysa: | with the number keys.. |
| [15:17:04] | mkrufky: | i want a new status flag per recording..... a flag that states whether or not the given program has yet been "VIEWED" or not |
| [15:17:39] | mkrufky: | and the auto-expire feature should take "VIEWED" status into account |
| [15:17:39] | sphery: | mkrufky: It's available in SVN trunk... |
| [15:17:39] | fysafysa: | but I run irexec -d |
| [15:17:46] | sphery: | and auto-expire will take it into account in trunk (if you tell it to do so) |
| [15:18:36] | Kevorkian: | cant rmmod that driver |
| [15:18:40] | Kevorkian: | ir_kbd_i2c is in use |
| [15:18:43] | Kevorkian: | by the saa |
| [15:18:48] | Kevorkian: | hmmm |
| [15:18:50] | directhex|work: | fysafysa, welcome to 5 minutes ago – you're being counterproductive at this point |
| [15:18:51] | sphery: | mkrufky: There's a "watched" flag on recordings. You can tell Myth to automatically mark a show as watched if you exit "near the end" of the recording or you can explicitly mark shows as watched. |
| [15:19:02] | fysafysa: | good for me |
| [15:19:15] | mkrufky: | sphery: awesome... im glad i said it here then, without sending in the feature request |
| [15:19:42] | directhex|work: | Kevorkian, you'll need to unload the saa module first then. and reload it afterwards |
| [15:19:45] | mkrufky: | so this "watched" flag only exists in svn for now, right? i dont think ive seen it in my atrpms 0.20 package yet |
| [15:19:48] | Kevorkian: | yea fysafysa the thought is that I somehow have the happauage keyboard driver loaded .. and its interfering with the real lircd somehow |
| [15:20:09] | sphery: | mkrufky: You can tell autoexpire to increase the priority of watched shows (i.e. they are expired first). You can also tell Myth to not allow re-record for autoexpired recordings that are watched (non-watched recordings that are autoexpired are always marked to allow re-record). |
| [15:20:35] | directhex|work: | Kevorkian, try "echo blacklist ir_kbd_i2c >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" |
| [15:20:52] | mkrufky: | sphery: awesome!1 that's exactly what i want |
| [15:21:00] | mkrufky: | thanks |
| [15:21:29] | fysafysa: | http://ivtvdriver.org/pipermail/ivtv-users/20 . . . /006196.html |
| [15:21:50] | sphery: | Kevorkian: Sorry, forgot that ir_kbd_i2c is using saa7134. You'd have to unload it (and likely through other dependencies basically all the ivtv modules), then manually load them in order... Or, blacklist hte module and let modprobe take care of it (i.e. on a reboot). |
| [15:22:33] | Kevorkian: | hmmm |
| [15:22:52] | Kevorkian: | file edited .. rebooting now |
| [15:22:57] | sphery: | So, since it sounds like directhex|work knows how Debian-based systems blacklist, try his recommendation. THen, the easy way to relead is a reboot... |
| [15:23:00] | sphery: | Cool. |
| [15:23:01] | Beirdo: | hell! |
| [15:23:01] | fysafysa: | you see that thread? |
| [15:23:05] | Dagmar: | He should really only need to unload the keyboard driver. |
| [15:23:23] | Kevorkian: | Dagmar, it woudlnt unload |
| [15:23:30] | sphery: | But the saa7134 is using it... |
| [15:23:31] | directhex|work: | fysafysa, would you use a small tactical nuke to kill a fly? |
| [15:23:35] | Dagmar: | sphery: That's how pretty much all the distros up-to-speed on 2.6 kernels work actually |
| [15:23:49] | sphery: | location is different, though... |
| [15:23:56] | Dagmar: | Kevorkian: THen that's a case where you have to kill the app that's using it, or blacklist and reboot |
| [15:24:06] | Kevorkian: | rebooting now |
| [15:24:59] | Dagmar: | sphery: Unlike previous versions, modutils man pages now specify all the fancy stuff that used to be different between distros before |
| [15:25:22] | Dagmar: | I think the idea was basically to lay down how they thought _all of it_ should work, so there wouldn't be all this distro-specific confusionj this time |
| [15:25:33] | sphery: | Oh, and in IRC, it's often easiest to recommend using a tactical nuke to kill a fly, rather than explaining how to disassemble the nuke to get the piece of sheet metal to use as a flyswatter... :) |
| [15:25:54] | Dagmar: | Pfff. Anything longer than two lines of instructions just confuses people |
| [15:26:12] | ** sphery would be surprised if any distro "owners" actually cared how someone /else/ thought things should work... ** | |
| [15:26:40] | Dagmar: | THey don't typically dork that heavily with anything that's already been carefully laid out tho |
| [15:26:47] | ** Kevorkian does teh dance of joy ** | |
| [15:27:32] | Dagmar: | Some of them might change file locations to comply with their idea of a filesystem standard, but they generally don't make substantive vhanges to how things that are actually working, work, because it means an instant and direct addition to their workload. |
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| [15:28:05] | Dagmar: | Bug with distro-specific stuff means someone has to spend time to fix it, then push the fix, etc etc |
| [15:28:33] | Dagmar: | Bug with pristinely constructed binaries means, kick report upstream, admire bug, go back to p-diddling around |
| [15:32:20] | directhex|work: | Kevorkian, solved? |
| [15:32:30] | Kevorkian: | yeppers |
| [15:32:33] | Kevorkian: | I think |
| [15:33:25] | Kevorkian: | the orginal issue was that it would work only when it wanted to .. it seems to feel more responsive now .. so .. unless it starts being broken again this looks lke it fixed it |
| [15:35:21] | sphery: | Dagmar, I'm not finding any mention of blacklisting (other than include the line "blacklist modulename") in my man 5 modprobe.conf from module-init-tools 3.2.2 (3.3 is in development, and no newer 3.2.x versions). I'm pretty sure the location of the file is still distro-specific since /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist would be used to build modprobe.conf (the only official configuration file for modprobe) dynamically. |
| [15:36:01] | Kevorkian: | anyone every hear of a artec t14a mini usb hd tuner or if there is any linux support for this ? |
| [15:36:40] | mkrufky: | Kevorkian: the ATSC version, or the DVB-T version? |
| [15:36:41] | sphery: | Dagmar: It's not really important, but I am interested as I build my own distro and I do it differently. |
| [15:37:13] | Dagmar: | It doesn't build modprobe.conf |
| [15:37:24] | Kevorkian: | not sure .. mkrufky |
| [15:37:33] | mkrufky: | Kevorkian: well, what country do you live in? |
| [15:37:42] | Dagmar: | First paragraph in the modprobe manpage mentions /etc/modprobe.conf is the optional config file and /etc/modprobe.d is a directory for use for the same purpose |
| [15:37:42] | Kevorkian: | us |
| [15:37:54] | mkrufky: | Kevorkian: not supported, sorry |
| [15:38:23] | mkrufky: | Kevorkian: however, i should be relatively simple to add support for that device |
| [15:38:36] | Dagmar: | `man modprobe.conf` basically tells the rest of the story |
| [15:38:47] | mkrufky: | i wrote to artec and asked for a sample in exchange for linux support and got no response |
| [15:39:04] | mkrufky: | so, -EOUTOFLUCK for any user thats wants to use it in linux |
| [15:39:11] | Kevorkian: | yea mkrufky .. should and will be are two diffrent things tho |
| [15:39:40] | mkrufky: | Kevorkian: buy two, mail one to me, and it will get full linux support in 2–3 kernel versions thereafter |
| [15:40:21] | Kevorkian: | Its that easy .. huh |
| [15:40:30] | mkrufky: | for me it is |
| [15:40:47] | mkrufky: | afaik, the only unknown in THAT device is the tuner programming |
| [15:40:48] | mkrufky: | brb |
| [15:40:58] | Dagmar: | mkrufky: I could make you hate that. |
| [15:41:07] | Dagmar: | I've got like nine craptacular webcams here |
| [15:41:26] | mkrufky: | Dagmar: huh? make me hate what? |
| [15:41:36] | Dagmar: | Only two vendor/prod codes between them, but all with differently behaving chips |
| [15:41:59] | Dagmar: | mkrufky: Setting up support for hardware people send you. ;) |
| [15:42:20] | mkrufky: | oh |
| [15:42:27] | mkrufky: | well, i am not interested in webcams to begin with |
| [15:42:55] | mkrufky: | but i have code already written for most of the components of the Artec 14 ATSC unit |
| [15:42:59] | sphery: | Dagmar: Thanks... I guess I should have re-read even the intro stuff. Having read it back when 2.5 was in development, I've been skipping the intro stuff figuring it's not going to change. |
| [15:43:12] | gpd: | hmm. just setup my new Asus M2NPV-VM board but the onboard graphics are giving me nasty flickering on the lower half of the screen with DVI->HDMI. :( |
| [15:44:02] | Kevorkian: | so what would you recomend for hdtv in the us with myth ? |
| [15:44:04] | Dagmar: | sphery: I welcome a bit of uniformity in this. Oh yes |
| [15:44:14] | mkrufky: | .....and i am looking for testers for my OnAir Creator driver.... in case anybody has that device and looking for linux support |
| [15:44:30] | mkrufky: | Kevorkian: depends.,... do you want USB or PCI ? |
| [15:44:46] | Kevorkian: | either at the moment .. I am a blank slate .. |
| [15:44:55] | mkrufky: | Kevorkian: next question, do you want ONLY digital tv, or do you want analog support also ? |
| [15:44:56] | Kevorkian: | usb is nice cause I could move it to something else .. |
| [15:45:47] | mkrufky: | Kevorkian: I recommend the DViCO FusionHDTV 5 USB Gold. It is a USB device that supports both OTA VSB, and QAM for digital cable |
| [15:46:02] | mkrufky: | Kevorkian: it has analog capabilities, but i didnt add that to the driver yet |
| [15:46:59] | mkrufky: | (i forgot to ask if you'll use it with digital cable, or just OTA stuff.... if just OTA stuff, then there are even more options) |
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| [15:47:23] | Kevorkian: | well I was thinking of ota . but the qam stuff sounds intresting |
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| [15:47:53] | mkrufky: | ok, well the FusionHDTV5 USB Gold is a good all-in-one usb solution |
| [15:48:16] | Kevorkian: | I havent used any .. but the rumor is that my cable co encrytps EVERYTHING |
| [15:48:26] | mkrufky: | if you dont care about QAM, then there are some other devices that are still good.... but not yet supported in the mainline linux kernel without external patches |
| [15:48:31] | Kevorkian: | so the qam support may not be a big deal for me |
| [15:48:41] | mkrufky: | they're not allowed to encrypt everything |
| [15:48:56] | Kevorkian: | besides the basics .. I mean |
| [15:49:02] | mkrufky: | the standard channels that would normally be found in OTA will also have to be unencrypted on the digital cable |
| [15:49:23] | mkrufky: | well, yeah... all the premium channels are encrypted -- |
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| [15:58:39] | Dagmar: | Not supposed to and "don't do" are two different things |
| [15:59:01] | Dagmar: | I got to use foul language (okay, so I have low standards for "acceptable" on this) last week to a Comcast rep |
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| [15:59:27] | Dagmar: | They tried to sell me digital cable, again |
| [15:59:49] | Kevorkian: | awwww .. no love for comcast |
| [16:00:03] | Kevorkian: | rumor is that they dont even encrypt there on demand feeds |
| [16:00:11] | Dagmar: | Not when they're 5C'ing everything but PBS and the SD rebroadcasts of OTA channels |
| [16:00:36] | Dagmar: | It depends on which market you're in |
| [16:00:53] | Dagmar: | THey used to not 5C any of it here |
| [16:01:08] | Dagmar: | Then they found out that *OMG* people could use their own DVR |
| [16:01:22] | mkrufky: | Kevorkian: nobody encrypted the on-demand feeds |
| [16:01:42] | mkrufky: | they are all sent out on random PIDs, negotiated with the client STB on program start |
| [16:01:48] | Dagmar: | On a brighter note, I did just see a newscaster referring to people with Down's Syndrome as "mentally disabled" |
| [16:01:56] | mkrufky: | it is very easy to see what your "neighbors" are watching with a PC QAM card |
| [16:02:13] | wastrel: | hi |
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| [16:14:59] | Kevorkian: | during fast forward/ rewind of anything ( riped dvd and recorded show checked so far ) .. I get NVP: Timed out waiting for free video buffers. in mythfrontend.log and the vid freezes untill I hit ff again |
| [16:15:08] | Kevorkian: | any ideas on whats goign wrong ? |
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| [16:23:23] | jduggan_: | f/win 21 |
| [16:33:06] | juski: | wastrel: nobody's listening. you'd better ask a question before you get bored :) |
| [16:33:36] | wastrel: | too late i'm already boerd |
| [16:33:39] | wastrel: | bored |
| [16:33:57] | gpd: | hmm. new bios, new nvidia drivers and still flicker on bottom 1/3rd of screen with HDMI onto TV that was fine with old AGP card |
| [16:33:59] | wastrel: | i'm just hanging anyway |
| [16:34:17] | juski: | wastrel: you know the other channel is only for development talk right? |
| [16:34:23] | mkrufky: | gpd: try OLD nvidia drivers |
| [16:34:25] | wastrel: | yes |
| [16:34:45] | gpd: | Is flickery weirdness likely due to hardware problems? |
| [16:35:26] | wastrel: | juski: thanks for responding though :] |
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| [16:37:05] | wastrel: | my replaytv pvr is getting flaky so i figured it was time to start looking at mythtv. :] need to buy a bunch of hardware first before i can start playing with it though. |
| [16:37:47] | juski: | well my best advice would be to read, read, read and then read some more |
| [16:38:23] | juski: | mythtv isn't hard to get working as such but some of the apps you might want to use alongside it can be.. lirc etc ;) |
| [16:38:32] | wastrel: | yeah i'll need lirc. |
| [16:38:46] | juski: | and before you buy any tuner cards make sure they work in linux |
| [16:39:00] | wastrel: | i got 2 free ones from a friend and neither are supported :] |
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| [16:39:14] | wastrel: | i'm looking at a couple of prv-150's maybe |
| [16:39:20] | juski: | and when you've got tuner card(s) make sure they work in linux before trying to set up mythtv |
| [16:39:47] | juski: | saves untold hassle when you limit the number of unknowns ;-) |
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| [16:40:26] | dr_willis: | saw some PVR150's mce edition on sale for $120 this weekend. |
| [16:40:33] | dr_willis: | Not sure if that was a good price or not |
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| [16:43:45] | mkrufky: | bad price |
| [16:43:48] | wastrel: | i'm looking on newegg and they're $73.99 |
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| [16:46:30] | Tanthrix: | 53.99 for the whitebox version on newegg |
| [16:47:42] | atrus: | is it possible to sign up for a Trac account so I can track responses to a bug i'm filing? |
| [16:50:25] | juski: | atrus: no |
| [16:50:38] | jams: | atrus- if you use your email address instead of anonymous it will mail you |
| [16:50:59] | sphery: | atrus: you can add yourself to the CC field |
| [16:51:56] | sphery: | atrus: If you're creating the ticket, make sure you read http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/269002#269002 |
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| [16:52:18] | planktonboy: | hi all |
| [16:52:23] | gpd: | hmm. doesn't seem to be the onboard nvidia 6150 since it is fine with a Dell LCD but continues to flicker with the TV :( |
| [16:52:48] | atrus: | hmm. ok. |
| [16:52:55] | planktonboy: | does anyone know what has to be set up in order to use the instant message feature in mythphone |
| [16:52:58] | wastrel: | Tanthrix: good eye :] thanks |
| [16:53:33] | planktonboy: | it doesnt seemt o do anything if I click on it and I cant find any info on the web re that function |
| [16:54:05] | mkrufky: | gpd: maybe you have to fix your modeline setup in the X configuration? |
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| [16:54:55] | gpd: | mkrufky: any pointers? at the moment it is written by nvidia-settings |
| [16:56:43] | juski: | wow. this is a vector drawing? oh man. http://www.vecteezy.com/vf/34-bokal |
| [16:57:12] | Pete_: | gbee: It seems to update the music database each time I put a cd in. Looking at the output of the frontend im getting a whole load of sql errors about mythconverg.music_artists not existing |
| [17:01:59] | mkrufky: | gpd: you might want to google the model # of your television, with the word, "modeline" |
| [17:02:16] | gpd: | mkrufky: yup – not coming up with anything so far :( |
| [17:02:26] | gpd: | tx-23lxd60 panasonic |
| [17:03:35] | mkrufky: | so, i'd guess that;s a 60" widescreen? |
| [17:03:57] | gpd: | no – I wish: 23 inch widescreen |
| [17:05:46] | gpd: | i don't suppose running windows under VMware will allow me to use Windows Monitor profiling tools? |
| [17:06:07] | gpd: | I'll have to install Windows on a disk – run the tests and then work out the modeline |
| [17:07:56] | sphery: | juski: Got a second for a theme/font question... I think Minimalist-wide may have a bug, but don't know the themes well enough to know for sure. |
| [17:08:47] | sphery: | juski: nvm. Figured it out... |
| [17:09:16] | sphery: | (Look for half and hour, then as soon as I say something, I find what I'm looking for.) |
| [17:11:00] | mkrufky: | gpd: sorry, was afk |
| [17:11:22] | mkrufky: | gpd: i didnt realize that you can do that so easily in windows......... |
| [17:11:41] | juski: | sphery: you mean the bug I fixed the other day? |
| [17:11:52] | sphery: | gpd: My preference is to find someone else who has already created a working modeline for my specific TV model on avsforum.com. |
| [17:12:02] | juski: | icons vanishing in Qt painting mode? fixed it |
| [17:12:08] | juski: | committed it iirc |
| [17:12:10] | sphery: | juski: No. It was a font thing, but it's not a bug. The font was defined elsewhere... |
| [17:12:29] | sphery: | Wasn't finding the where until I started to ask. |
| [17:12:45] | sphery: | But, it does bring up another question I have about fonts... |
| [17:12:46] | Pete_: | "Table 'mythconverg.music_artists' doesn't exist" any ideas where to start? |
| [17:12:46] | sphery: | :) |
| [17:13:24] | Pete_: | none of the music tables seem to exist infact |
| [17:13:48] | sphery: | Pete_: Got a backup of the DB (or several)? |
| [17:13:57] | Pete_: | I have plenty :) |
| [17:14:03] | sphery: | How long have you been using Myth? |
| [17:14:10] | Pete_: | years |
| [17:14:10] | sphery: | Did MythMusic ever work for you? |
| [17:14:20] | sphery: | And you recently upgraded? |
| [17:14:33] | Pete_: | The backend hasn't been upgraded since 0.20 |
| [17:14:46] | sphery: | backend and frontend /must/ be running the exact same revision of Myth. |
| [17:15:11] | sphery: | That would be the first step to fixing it if they're not currently running the same rev. |
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| [17:16:47] | planktonboy: | damn gotta go..bbl :)) |
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| [17:16:56] | Pete_: | Infact they are both svn snapshots on these machines, surely the tables music_xxxx aren't a recent addition though? |
| [17:17:29] | sphery: | IIRC, after 0.20 was released, MythMusic was completely changed--including the DB schema--and does use different tables. |
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| [17:17:54] | sphery: | It may have been before 0.20, but I know we recently started using new tables. |
| [17:18:53] | sphery: | So, do you have the same version of Myth on all machines that touch the DB? |
| [17:19:07] | sphery: | (i.e. all frontends and backends) |
| [17:20:23] | Pete_: | music_xxxxx all exist in my old mythconverg database, it just seems something hasn't created them in my 'new' (0.20-svn) database |
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| [17:22:27] | Pete_: | And no, I don't think they are all the same checkout, I know the main frontend and the backend are though |
| [17:22:38] | Pete_: | And music doesn't work there |
| [17:24:23] | sphery: | Well, a database upgrade should have created all the new tables for you and copied data from the old tables. Something prevented that from working. The error message in the log file would be ideal for tracking down what. |
| [17:25:50] | sphery: | Otherwise, the "best" solution is to start a clean DB using ideas from http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.7 (along with http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.5). |
| [17:26:56] | gbee: | Pete_: sounds like your database is hosed |
| [17:27:21] | sphery: | If it's just the music stuff, you can probably fake it by deleting the appropriate music tables and ensuring that the MusicDBSchemaVer is "correct" for your starting point. |
| [17:27:49] | sphery: | But I'll leave the specifics as an exercise for the reader. |
| [17:27:51] | Pete_: | sphery: I didn't upgrade, I started from scratch for 0.20svn. The music tables don't exist at all in the 'new' database |
| [17:28:12] | gbee: | that's what I get for reading IRC history forwards and not backwards |
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| [17:28:27] | sphery: | How did you start from scratch? With mc.sql or with a DB backup? |
| [17:30:54] | Pete_: | I don't remember using either of those, I think I just used mythtv-setup, sounds like i've done it all wrong ;) |
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| [17:32:19] | sphery: | Pete_: The proper way to start a fresh DB is at http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 |
| [17:32:48] | sphery: | If you don't have anything you need to keep in your current fresh DB, you can just drop the existing mythconverg DB and start over. |
| [17:32:58] | sphery: | If you do have stuff to save, you'll need to do things in the right order. |
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| [17:33:20] | sphery: | (so let me know if that's the case and I'll give you an overview) |
| [17:33:55] | gpd: | Where does one find the Dot Clock Frequency for a TV? The manual gives Vertical and Horizontal Frequencies |
| [17:33:59] | Pete_: | could I export my current (working except for music) database, import mc.sql, then import my backup (replacing all the tables I have, leaving the new ones?) |
| [17:34:37] | sphery: | mc.sql only creates the DB--no tables (i.e. doesn't put the schema in place). |
| [17:35:02] | niter3: | is there anything new for myth lately. Any new plugins and such? |
| [17:35:13] | sphery: | If you're trying to bring in stuff from a backup, the order is dependant upon the version used to create the backup and the version you're currently running. |
| [17:35:46] | sphery: | niter3: MythMovies recently went into SVN trunk. Allows you to see movie listings for local theaters. |
| [17:36:15] | sphery: | niter3: But, if you're using packaged versions, for the last 9 months or so, it's just been bug fixes. |
| [17:36:20] | Pete_: | Well, I have a functioning 0.20-svn system for most of the machines at the moment, except music does not work. It just seems to be those tables are missing from the database music_artists etc.. |
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| [17:39:31] | directhex: | sphery, ubuntu gutsy is running svn r13496 |
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| [17:40:16] | directhex: | though that's not a stable distro |
| [17:42:32] | sphery: | Pete_: One approach is http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.5 , dropping the mythconverg DB , http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 , start mythtv-setup and exit, http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.7 (and include other non-music tables, but not settings, as desired). Then run mythtv-setup and finish configuring, then mythfrontend settings. Then, you should be able to scan for music from ... |
| [17:42:39] | sphery: | ... the frontend. |
| [17:42:48] | sphery: | That's the long approach, but requires no knowledge of mythtv internals. |
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| [17:43:47] | Pete_: | Well I decided to just cheat, I know a little sql, just made a backup of the tables I needed, (music_artists music_albums etc) from an old database backup, imported them into the 'new' database and im sorted it seems |
| [17:43:59] | sphery: | Cool. |
| [17:44:18] | Pete_: | Thanks for all the suggestions :) |
| [17:44:45] | sphery: | Which is basically the variation on http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.7 I originally recommended, but that you didn't seem interested in. |
| [17:45:13] | modorf: | directhex, have you looked at Ubuntu Gutsy's build of MythTV? |
| [17:45:51] | modorf: | wondering what the dependancies are |
| [17:45:59] | Pete_: | Ah, when I read your comment about it you mentioned "clean database", I lost interest there, didn't quite realise what you were suggesting, sorry! |
| [17:46:18] | Pete_: | I have to get going now anyway, im late. Thanks for all the help |
| [17:46:20] | modorf: | and if I can just download all the Myth debs and upgrade my feisty install |
| [17:46:21] | sphery: | Pete_: No problem. I probably could have explained it better. |
| [17:46:45] | modorf: | or just wait for the back-port? |
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| [17:47:36] | modorf: | there are definately fixes I'm wanting compared to the feisty build. |
| [17:47:37] | sphery: | directhex: Gutsy runs SVN trunk r13496 (as opposed to SVN 0.20-fixes r13496)? If so, that should /only/ happen if a user explicitly asks (forces!) the use of the "unsupported" bleeding-edge development code. |
| [17:47:41] | wastrel: | hah i just realized i need a tv-out card :] |
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| [17:48:46] | modorf: | wastrel, what video card are you planning to use. a good number of nvidia cards have svideo/composite out |
| [17:48:47] | sphery: | wastrel: Another option is to get a new TV that takes VGA/DVI/HDMI or something else 50-years newer than NTSC/PAL. :) (Obviously far more expensive, though.) |
| [17:49:34] | wastrel: | well my friend has an all-in-wonder card he's giving me. i've been assuming i can't use that because it's not supported for encoding but i guess it has tv-out too? |
| [17:49:50] | wastrel: | i'm going to buy a hauppauge pvr-150 mce from newegg for encoding. |
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| [17:50:09] | sphery: | xris: In case #3596 gets re-opened, there's a very good chance it's the QT 3.3.8 segfault on exit bug. |
| [17:50:15] | modorf: | wastrel, which ati aiw? |
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| [17:50:38] | wastrel: | modorf: not sure what he's got. |
| [17:50:47] | wastrel: | i also have a hauppage wintv-d |
| [17:50:51] | wastrel: | from another friend |
| [17:50:51] | sphery: | wastrel: IMHO, a $30 (in the US, at least) NVIDIA card is far cheaper than a $0 ATI card. |
| [17:51:12] | wastrel: | heh i've never had nvidia before. |
| [17:51:40] | modorf: | wastrel, nvidia's seem to have better binary driver support. |
| [17:52:30] | sphery: | You'll spend a /lot/ of time trying to get the ATI working, you'll find that its drivers have bugs that may force you to compile your own version of Myth with a compile-time switch in place to work around the bugs, and you'll probably have issues where previews and other scaled video is in the upper-left corner instead of where it's supposed to be, and you'll probably have pink bars when you apply filters during playback. |
| [17:53:08] | xris: | sphery: mythtranscode? |
| [17:53:09] | sphery: | (might not be all of those issues, depending on card/driver version/etc., but you'll almost definitely have some of them) |
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| [17:53:31] | wastrel: | guess i'll add that to my shopping list. |
| [17:53:53] | sphery: | xris: Right. mythtranscode segfaults on exit because the QApplication destructor frees the DB connection that mythtranscode already closed and freed. |
| [17:54:17] | sphery: | xris: It also prevents MythArchive from working on a machine with an unpatched QT 3.3.8. |
| [17:54:24] | KaZeR: | hey people. myth(tv-setup|frontend) segfaults when i try to run it. i have the gdb output here : http://rafb.net/p/ZG3Vst97.html |
| [17:54:28] | KaZeR: | can anyone help? |
| [17:54:37] | sphery: | xris: Because once mythtranscode segfaults, the script/program gives up. |
| [17:55:27] | gbee: | KaZeR: you've got X problems – "Xlib: extension "XInputExtension" missing on display ":1.0"." |
| [17:55:48] | sphery: | KaZeR: You're using packaged build, right? What distro? |
| [17:55:59] | KaZeR: | gbee, thanks. any more details? |
| [17:56:07] | KaZeR: | sphery, gentoo, ebuild from portage |
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| [17:57:50] | xris: | sphery: gotcha |
| [17:58:18] | sphery: | KaZeR: which version? 0.20-fixes? |
| [17:58:23] | gbee: | KaZeR: apart from where it's crashing, which isn't of much help to you – but whatever the problem, it's something in your X install which is either mis-configured or missing |
| [17:58:43] | gbee: | suspect sphery has an idea what the problem is |
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| [17:59:04] | KaZeR: | sphery, media-tv/mythtv-0.20.1_p13344 |
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| [17:59:33] | gbee: | KaZeR: ati card? |
| [17:59:49] | KaZeR: | gbee, thanks for the tip. i'm running it in a vnc session (no screen attached) |
| [18:00:05] | KaZeR: | i'm going to check my X config |
| [18:00:18] | juski: | KaZeR: should still start up. I run mythfrontend in vnc sessions all the time |
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| [18:00:47] | KaZeR: | juski, i fully agree. it worked before a hard drive died and i had to reinstall the box |
| [18:01:29] | sphery: | KaZeR: I thought it might be related to http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3401 , but it looks like it's Debian packages that integrated the patch. |
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| [18:02:17] | KaZeR: | sphery, looks similar to my problem, indeed |
| [18:02:24] | sphery: | However, from what you're saying, it sounds like you have the inverse of what I was thinking (i.e. the same problem the reporter had). |
| [18:02:58] | sphery: | Anyway, the patch is broken, so once you create a proper fix, feel free to upload it to that ticket. :) |
| [18:03:10] | KaZeR: | hehe, thanks for the info :) |
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| [18:03:52] | sphery: | (I've never had the crash, either, and I run 2 backends that do not start X servers and routinely--even on initial setup--use ssh -Y to connect... |
| [18:04:05] | sphery: | Wondering if the problem is because someone improperly used ssh -X |
| [18:04:08] | sphery: | testing... |
| [18:05:02] | KaZeR: | sphery, i have the very same problem in vnc |
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| [18:05:15] | sphery: | Oops. Have to finish upgrading Myth first. |
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| [18:06:11] | jblack: | Hello. I'm having a heck of a time with myth on a newer laptop. Myth is showing a blue screen whenever I try to watch recorded shows. I think I have an idea as to what's wrong. |
| [18:06:29] | sphery: | Hmmm. Still works with ssh -X, but with some unrelated errors. |
| [18:06:41] | sphery: | I'd love to know how to reproduce that crash. |
| [18:07:13] | jblack: | The laptop, a gateway, has onboard video. I think that the bios is screwing with x.org with respect to video memory. I tried setting VideoRam=65536, but that didn't solve my problem. |
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| [18:09:15] | KaZeR: | sphery, i'd love to know how to avoid that crash, maybe we can swap? :) |
| [18:11:36] | jblack: | No suggestions? |
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| [18:12:15] | kruuli: | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/119055 |
| [18:12:29] | kruuli: | anyone else got that bug? :o |
| [18:13:10] | jblack: | Nope, though I'm using straight ubuntu rather than mythbuntu |
| [18:13:48] | kruuli: | ah well tryed that .. bit to much for me as im new to ubuntu and myth :) |
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| [18:20:25] | pike_: | theres a mythubuntu now? i guess it was only a matter of time |
| [18:21:18] | kruuli: | hehe guess so |
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| [18:22:54] | sphery: | jblack: Sounds like your video driver is broken or you're using dual output (i.e. a monitor and a TV), in which case the video is on the "other" one. |
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| [18:24:22] | sphery: | jblack: Since it's a laptop, it's possible that it's the latter and, for example, when you plug in the TV out connector, it turns off the LCD monitor, but because it's still the first display, it's used for the video out. |
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| [18:46:31] | gbee: | 74 tickets closed in the last week, 27 opened ... well it's progress of sorts :) |
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| [18:49:26] | directhex: | sphery, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/ . . . u1/changelog |
| [18:49:49] | directhex: | modorf, i've not backported ubuntu's mythtv since the previous version (0.20-svn20070122–0.0ubuntu6) |
| [18:51:59] | juski: | gbee: the overall trend is positive. woo! ;) |
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| [18:56:52] | gbee: | oh bugger, getting too cocky, last commit causes a segfault if you insert a CD while an existing playlist is loaded |
| [18:57:07] | ** stuarta trouts gbee ** | |
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| [19:07:06] | gbee: | no ... still segfaults even without the patch, looks like the playlist tree is getting trashed somewhere |
| [19:10:10] | gnome42: | Hi gbee, I doubt it's related but I noticed the other day that it will segfault if your cd device is set to a non-existant device node. |
| [19:10:56] | gbee: | gnome42: that's worth knowing and maybe you could open a ticket? |
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| [19:11:30] | gnome42: | sure, I'll svn up and check if its still there first. :) |
| [19:12:04] | gbee: | it's not related to this problem, which I now realise is the same one I was chasing earlier – sigsegv in GenericTree::addNode |
| [19:13:15] | gbee: | the fix I just put into svn just means you're more likely to notice the segfault because it's no longer getting stuck in a loop trying to read from a non-existant CD |
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| [19:38:10] | sphery: | juski: Is the stripe across Minimalist-wide new or am I going crazy? |
| [19:41:35] | jams: | sphery you talking about the horizontal stripe on the background, where the icons sit? |
| [19:42:54] | sphery: | yeah |
| [19:43:00] | jams: | if so, then it's about two years old |
| [19:43:19] | jams: | however the new mythui stuff made it disappear |
| [19:44:04] | sphery: | Hmmm. Something about it looks very different... I just updated from trunk r13461 to r13648. |
| [19:44:06] | jams: | the addition of base.xml made it reappear. |
| [19:44:12] | sphery: | Oh. |
| [19:44:23] | sphery: | Thank you so much for explaining that to me. |
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| [19:44:34] | sphery: | I thought I was going crazy. |
| [19:45:15] | fxfitz: | I just put a PVR-150 in my computer, and I have not yet installed MythTV. Is there any way that I can check and see if it's being recognized? Right now I'm running Ubuntu Feisty Fawn. |
| [19:45:28] | jams: | minimalist-wide is one of 3 themes that uses button-background.png. the new ui does not take into account that element so the strip "disappeared". When juski added base.xml it included button-background.jpg as the default background. |
| [19:46:01] | jams: | hence the strip reappeared. it's not exactly "correct" but it works for now. I do the same with syth |
| [19:46:04] | juski: | jams: I thought that was how it was intended to look so I put it in there |
| [19:46:17] | sphery: | gbee: Are you getting a "Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy" on shutting down mythfrontend? On a hunch (haven't looked at any code), I'm assuming it's related to the new clock (since that's the "big" change since my last update). |
| [19:46:18] | jams: | juski- that is how it's inteneded to look =) |
| [19:46:44] | gbee: | sphery: no I'm not |
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| [19:46:57] | jams: | juski- i made that change about 2 years ago. |
| [19:47:02] | sphery: | gbee: OK. I'll investigate it, then. Thanks. |
| [19:47:13] | gbee: | I get the usual QT 3.3.8 segfault though, so maybe that masks a problem |
| [19:47:34] | sphery: | Oh. I wish mine would segfault before erroring. ;) |
| [19:47:51] | gbee: | not sure the clock is involved, but let me know |
| [19:47:55] | jams: | the reason i said it's not "correct" is because button-background is for the menu's only. base.xml makes it global. At the moment it's the best we can do. |
| [19:47:56] | sphery: | Does it even sound reasonable that it could be with the clock? |
| [19:48:03] | mkrufky: | fxfitz: do 'dmesg | less' and you'll be able to look thru the kernel's debug log... the drivers output messages there when they identify devices |
| [19:48:07] | juski: | jams: anyway I don't know of many themes which don't use some kind of sneaky 'improper' workaround. apart from goody-2-shoes mepo-wide :-P |
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| [19:48:30] | jams: | hehe |
| [19:48:58] | sphery: | fxfitz: It can be tested without Myth, but generally, you have to learn a lot about ivtv to make sure you do it right. In many cases, you'll spend less time just installing Myth and testing it in there. (Although many will say that's not the approved solution.) |
| [19:49:15] | mkrufky: | mplayer is easier |
| [19:49:30] | jams: | juski- at the time that strip was added to match the htpc case i was using |
| [19:49:43] | mkrufky: | myth is good for AFTER you know your devices are all working properly |
| [19:50:11] | jams: | however i haven't used that theme in ages, because horizonatal themes are hard to use. |
| [19:50:30] | juski: | btw jams you don't think this looks scary do you? www.juski.co.uk/appearance.png ? |
| [19:50:53] | juski: | jams: that's cos we need _proper_ horizontal menus which scroll from side to side |
| [19:51:05] | jams: | man i really need to get cut/paste working for my vnc session. |
| [19:51:18] | a5benwillis: | juski: Ewe |
| [19:51:24] | ** mkrufky would photoshop the eye whites a bit ** | |
| [19:51:43] | sphery: | juski: I think it's spookier than the fact that the guy who responded to your e-mail about using those images for your theme is using your theme. |
| [19:51:47] | a5benwillis: | juski: That would scare my kids LOL |
| [19:52:08] | juski: | it looks better than the shite image in the current theme |
| [19:52:08] | mkrufky: | i just wouldnt want to see that vein on a 50" screen, thats all |
| [19:52:10] | juski: | IMHO |
| [19:52:11] | jams: | HA that is a bit much |
| [19:52:24] | wastrel: | i need a new hard drive |
| [19:52:25] | wastrel: | or 2 |
| [19:52:33] | juski: | ok I'll rework the eye.. I remember thinking it needed something... |
| [19:52:37] | sphery: | juski: for "proper" horizontal menus, do you mean the buttons move, but the highlighted one stays centered? |
| [19:52:52] | sphery: | (wondering in case I get time to work on it...) |
| [19:53:01] | juski: | sphery: yup |
| [19:53:05] | juski: | that's what I mean |
| [19:53:06] | sphery: | cool. |
| [19:53:09] | jams: | sphery- yes that was the intention when horizontal menus were introduced |
| [19:53:10] | mkrufky: | juski: i think if you apply a minimal blur filter on the eye whites it would be better |
| [19:53:22] | jams: | however it didn't exactly make it |
| [19:53:47] | sphery: | and with that approach, it wouldn't "stop" (i.e. would wrap around). |
| [19:53:49] | Dagmar: | So basically horizontal was supposed to be a sliding strip of buttons? |
| [19:53:56] | jams: | Dagmar- yep |
| [19:54:06] | Dagmar: | Oh, aha! More devs on no |
| [19:54:07] | Dagmar: | w |
| [19:54:08] | jams: | with the active one fixed in the middle |
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| [19:54:33] | gbee: | sphery: I wouldn't say so, iirc we're not directly (or even indirectly) involving any mutex locks in that code |
| [19:54:42] | Dagmar: | Is there any particular reason why the OSD themes are based on a 640x480 grid, while the menus base on a 800x600? |
| [19:54:42] | gpd: | strange question: do I need special component cables to connect to component – or will any 3 standard RCA video cables work? |
| [19:55:05] | sphery: | gbee: OK. I'll approach it with an open mind (probably the right approach, regardless :). |
| [19:55:06] | Dagmar: | gpd: Any decent RCA cables will work |
| [19:55:27] | gpd: | none of the modelines seem to help with my lower 1/3rd vertical flickering... |
| [19:55:29] | Como|Lappy: | even cable wire or speaker wire works for component, if you're special like me |
| [19:55:54] | gpd: | presumably component resolution / quality will be much worse than DVI->HMDI? |
| [19:56:01] | gpd: | or am I wasting my time with HDMI? |
| [19:56:21] | mkrufky: | hdmi is as good as it gets |
| [19:56:35] | mkrufky: | and dvi can look as good as hdmi |
| [19:56:45] | mkrufky: | component will give you the same resolution |
| [19:57:01] | mkrufky: | its just a matter of preference, or whataver you have available |
| [19:57:06] | gpd: | but if I can do 720p over component it will be comparable to the untrained eye? |
| [19:57:33] | mkrufky: | there's really no benefit to convert from your pc to a component signal |
| [19:57:36] | gbee: | sphery: there is a known reason why that error might occur according to the QT lists and that is creating a QApplication and then never calling QApplication::exec before it's destroyed |
| [19:57:42] | mkrufky: | but, it should look exactly the same |
| [19:58:10] | gbee: | sphery: but I can't think of a any recent commit which would cause that to be the case |
| [20:00:55] | sphery: | Yeah. I'm seeing that it was a common occurrence in 2002... |
| [20:01:14] | sphery: | I will admit that I shut down the frontend rather quickly--was scared by the big stripe on Minimalist-wide. :) |
| [20:01:21] | sphery: | I'm letting it run for a few minutes now. |
| [20:01:39] | jams: | heh |
| [20:03:53] | gbee: | heh, ignored the date because I figured 2002 wasn't that long ago ... *ahem* |
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| [20:10:35] | fxfitz: | I'm setting up MythTV right now and I'm confused on what to do for the Video source setup. What kind of XMLTV should I use?? |
| [20:11:24] | sphery: | fxfitz: What country? |
| [20:11:26] | laga: | are there different kinds of xmltv? |
| [20:11:50] | fxfitz: | sphery, US. |
| [20:12:01] | sphery: | No XMLTV required. You'll use DataDirect. |
| [20:12:18] | sphery: | fxfitz: http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3 |
| [20:12:28] | ficsch: | hi. is it possible to record on one machine and then stream to another one that is connected to the TV by means of TV-out (nvidia 6600gt) ? |
| [20:12:54] | fxfitz: | sphery, Thank you very much! |
| [20:13:02] | mkrufky: | ficsch: that's the entire point of mythtv |
| [20:13:11] | ficsch: | great :) |
| [20:13:33] | juski: | mythtv can allow you to watch/record/stream on a home network? oMG that's teh awesome! |
| [20:13:48] | mkrufky: | mythtv records TELEVISION ?!? |
| [20:13:54] | ficsch: | ... |
| [20:14:13] | mkrufky: | (we just RTFM in a very polite way) :-P |
| [20:14:22] | mkrufky: | ^ said |
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| [20:15:40] | mkrufky: | hehe i knew i shouldnt have said that |
| [20:15:53] | sphery: | gbee: I think you're off the hook. mythtv-setup doesn't have the problem, but it does have the clock... |
| [20:16:28] | ** gbee breaths a sigh of relief ** | |
| [20:16:30] | juski: | right folks refresh the appearance.png :) I think you'll find it much improved.. and mkrufky minimal blur filter.. pfft! bit more to it than that ;) |
| [20:17:08] | fxfitz: | sphery, What about input connections? :( |
| [20:17:15] | mkrufky: | i think that looks much better, juski |
| [20:17:24] | gbee: | suppose I should become indignant now and ask why you immediately thought to blame me :p |
| [20:18:07] | juski: | it's fscking hard work, photon-chopping eyes |
| [20:18:09] | sphery: | lol... Ummm, well, because you're outnumbering the other devs on commits about 10:1 lately... :) |
| [20:18:11] | jams: | juski- i say revert |
| [20:18:18] | juski: | lol jams |
| [20:18:19] | mkrufky: | lol |
| [20:18:27] | jams: | of fix that line that's right above the eye |
| [20:18:35] | jams: | it looks like a peice of plastic |
| [20:18:50] | mkrufky: | yeah... what is that semi-circle white transparency up there? |
| [20:18:59] | juski: | sposed to be a shiny bit |
| [20:19:15] | jams: | heh i't not shiny |
| [20:19:17] | mkrufky: | maybe a lens glare would look good there |
| [20:19:30] | juski: | lens flares are too fake |
| [20:19:34] | mkrufky: | err, i forget what it's actually called....... |
| [20:19:38] | mkrufky: | ok u knew what i meant |
| [20:19:38] | juski: | I have no idea why they put them in games |
| [20:19:48] | sphery: | fxfitz: You'll first create your capture cards, then you'll create your video source(s), then you'll "connect" the video source to the appropriate input, then you'll use "Fetch channels from listings provider" to create channels (do /not/ use "Scan for channels"), then you'll watch TV. |
| [20:19:54] | juski: | you don't get lens flares when you look at stuff with your own eyes! |
| [20:19:54] | juski: | ;) |
| [20:20:10] | mkrufky: | you do if you wer contact lenses |
| [20:20:15] | mkrufky: | wear |
| [20:20:23] | juski: | do you? |
| [20:20:26] | mkrufky: | yes |
| [20:20:28] | juski: | eew |
| [20:20:35] | mkrufky: | well, not exactly |
| [20:20:43] | mkrufky: | it's more like a halo, around any light source |
| [20:20:49] | mkrufky: | you get used to it after a while |
| [20:20:57] | juski: | I wear specs & have never seen a panavision style lens flare ;) |
| [20:21:06] | jblack: | sphery: Sorry I missed your reply. Are you still there? |
| [20:21:08] | mkrufky: | yeah you dont get that from normal eye glasses |
| [20:22:17] | sphery: | jblack: yes, but my memory isn't... |
| [20:22:24] | jblack: | sphery: I'm able to get video for transcoded shows. Shows that aren't transcoded are blue, unless I run mythfrontend with XV disabled. |
| [20:22:37] | fxfitz: | sphery, Alright. How come use Fetch Channels from Listings Provider and not Scan for Channels?? |
| [20:23:08] | sphery: | fxfitz: because you're in the US and the provided data is better than "guess-timated" data. |
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| [20:23:21] | juski: | tell you what I'll take her eyebrow stubble away that the white highlight was hiding too |
| [20:23:29] | sphery: | jblack: You're not using a PVR-350 for output, right? It was a laptop? |
| [20:23:32] | fxfitz: | sphery, Right. Gotcha. |
| [20:23:43] | gpd: | FYI: You cannot run Powerstrip using a Bart PE CD :( |
| [20:23:53] | jblack: | sphery: This is a client laptop without TV hardware. |
| [20:24:34] | jblack: | sphery: I think its a memory problem. I get plenty of errors, when XV is not disabled, about not being able to allocate memory. I suspect that the problem is the bios is hosed when it comes to devoting shared memory to the video card. |
| [20:24:37] | sphery: | The blue screen generally indicates that the system was configured with two displays. Xv only works on display 1 with any driver you're likely to use. |
| [20:25:09] | Esotericisms: | I have a question. I am looking into building a new mythtv setup. Anyone know if this motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186115) will work with MythTV using a dvi-to-component adapter (http://cgi.ebay.com/HDTV-Component-Video-Adap . . . mdZViewItem) |
| [20:25:10] | sphery: | Does the laptop have a TV out port? |
| [20:25:40] | jblack: | sphery: I don't believe so. I think I'm not being clear though. |
| [20:26:14] | sphery: | Basically, what I've heard is that you get video without a problem when not using Xv, right? |
| [20:26:22] | sphery: | With Xv do you ever get video? |
| [20:26:25] | jblack: | Nope, though I'm using straight ubuntu rather than mythbuntu |
| [20:26:29] | jblack: | gah. |
| [20:26:31] | jblack: | myth can show the shows in Xv if they have been transcoded to a lower resolution. myth shows blue if the video has not been transcoded, unless I disable xv. |
| [20:26:46] | sphery: | What video card? |
| [20:26:51] | sphery: | (driver) |
| [20:26:54] | jblack: | Onboard i845 |
| [20:27:03] | sphery: | What resolution is the output? |
| [20:27:08] | Esotericisms: | anyone? |
| [20:27:09] | sphery: | (configured to use) |
| [20:27:51] | jblack: | 1200x800, I believe. |
| [20:27:53] | sphery: | IIRC, there was an issue with the i810 driver (that's the one you're using, right? just guessing) that prevented it from working properly at "high" resolution. |
| [20:27:57] | jblack: | I'm restarting the machine. |
| [20:28:04] | mkrufky: | Esotericisms: why bother with component? doesnt your tv have dvi input ? |
| [20:28:17] | Esotericisms: | unforunately no it does not ... older tv |
| [20:28:24] | sphery: | jblack: There's another (new and /much/ improved driver--I think it's called "intel", but I'll check in a moment) that fixes the issue. |
| [20:28:31] | mkrufky: | Esotericisms: and i did not look at your motherboard, but it should work |
| [20:28:36] | mkrufky: | Esotericisms: you dont need anything special |
| [20:28:41] | juski: | jams et al – refreshy :) |
| [20:28:45] | Esotericisms: | that converter should work though? |
| [20:28:50] | Esotericisms: | or one like it? |
| [20:29:03] | mkrufky: | juski: that looks _much_ better |
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| [20:29:31] | wastrel: | hi |
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| [20:29:43] | juski: | mkrufky: cheers :) |
| [20:29:57] | mkrufky: | no reason why it shouldn't work, Esotericisms |
| [20:30:17] | jblack: | Ok, yeah, its i810 |
| [20:30:23] | jblack: | (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so |
| [20:30:28] | juski: | zdzisekg: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/13628 – FYI :) |
| [20:31:01] | jblack: | Unfortunately ubuntu 7.4 doesn't have the intel driver yet. |
| [20:31:06] | sphery: | jblack: Switch to the intel driver (I had the right name). It's fixed. |
| [20:31:23] | zdzisekg: | juski, thanx. I missed that one |
| [20:31:23] | sphery: | Easy solution. Implementing the solution, on the other hand, may be much more challenging... |
| [20:31:39] | jblack: | Ohh, I lied. |
| [20:31:41] | sphery: | intel driver is being developed to replace i810 |
| [20:31:44] | jblack: | xserver-xorg-video-intel – X.Org X server — Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver |
| [20:31:56] | jams: | juski- needs green contacts =) |
| [20:32:05] | juski: | jams: grrr :) |
| [20:32:28] | jblack: | sphery: sorry for being a bit flighty. My daughter chose just this moment to ask for algebra help |
| [20:32:30] | jams: | it does look better, more natural |
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| [20:32:41] | sphery: | jblack: What does your X config file say (xorg.conf/XF86Config)? Driver ... |
| [20:33:07] | fxfitz: | Alright, well, MythTV is now working and I'm watching TV (except the quality is horrible, but it I think its because of the cable in this particular room). How would I go about setting up my remote to use? I just bought the PVR-150. |
| [20:33:13] | jblack: | I'm switching to the intel driver now. Just a moment |
| [20:33:45] | sphery: | That will be very nice if both are in that package for you... |
| [20:33:51] | ** sphery crosses fingers ** | |
| [20:34:45] | juski: | more natural as green? |
| [20:34:49] | sphery: | fxfitz: signal strength can be a big issue with PVR-x50's. See http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/17953#17953 for my recommendations. |
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| [20:35:39] | sphery: | fxfitz: But I'll leave the remote config for someone else. All I can recommend is use /either/ lirc_i2c /or/ ir_kbd_i2c. If you have both modules installed, you'll have weird issues (it "sometimes" works). |
| [20:35:42] | jams: | juski- no more natural without the white line |
| [20:35:52] | jams: | it's fine as is |
| [20:36:00] | juski: | ah yeah. was sposed to be shiny but I'll dump that plan |
| [20:36:07] | jblack: | Ok. Intel driver in, let's see how it goes. :) |
| [20:36:21] | juski: | zdzisekg: pm ? |
| [20:36:36] | jams: | juski- just don't animate the eyeball looking around! |
| [20:36:44] | juski: | jams: rofl. as if |
| [20:36:55] | sphery: | gbee: Now that I think about it, there were many changes to the pthread code from russellb's patches... Of course, I should really debug before pointing fingers, again. ;) |
| [20:37:13] | zdzisekg: | juski, sure |
| [20:37:30] | jblack: | sphery: YOU ROCK!! |
| [20:37:58] | sphery: | Glad it worked. Now, see, if you had listened to me hours ago... ;) |
| [20:38:13] | mkrufky: | jblack: which chipset it is? |
| [20:38:20] | jblack: | sphery: Ok, so if someone complains that x.org reports that memory is being stolen, he probably has an i810. Switch to the intel driver, and life gets good |
| [20:38:27] | mkrufky: | i am still using i810 on my 965G chipset under feisty |
| [20:38:51] | sphery: | jblack: really, though, you should thank j-rod (Jarod Wilson). He's the one who worked out the details. I just remembered them. |
| [20:38:59] | jblack: | mkrufky: (**) | |-->Device "Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrate |
| [20:38:59] | mkrufky: | (im not watching videos on that one yet, so i dont know the difference yet either) |
| [20:39:02] | jblack: | d Graphics Controller" |
| [20:39:05] | laga: | sphery: thanks for that posting |
| [20:39:08] | ** j-rod wakes up... ** | |
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| [20:39:12] | sphery: | mkrufky: i810 works until resolution gets too big. |
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| [20:39:20] | jblack: | You guys are likely to see this on ubuntu systems, who are defaulting to the i810 driver. |
| [20:39:20] | mkrufky: | cool. .. i will have to try intel on that box |
| [20:40:02] | j-rod: | yah, intel driver rocks on my mac mini |
| [20:40:07] | mkrufky: | jblack: so the name of the driver is "intel" , and it's already included with the default feisty install ? |
| [20:40:10] | sphery: | Oops. I woke the sleeping titan. Just telling jblack that you were the one who said to go with the intel driver. |
| [20:41:03] | mkrufky: | i have compiz running on that machine with the i810 driver and it already looks so slick.... i cant imagine it being any better, but i will try "intel" tonoght |
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| [20:41:06] | mkrufky: | tonight |
| [20:41:09] | jblack: | This is awesome. I've had to go without live tv on my vaio for a year. |
| [20:41:46] | sphery: | and now you can put all those transcoding cycles to something more interesting, like BOINC... |
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| [20:43:07] | ** jblack fixes his own laptop now ** | |
| [20:43:42] | jblack: | Thanks very much |
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| [20:57:40] | j-rod: | sphery: heh, no problem |
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| [20:58:13] | ** j-rod is just in a general daze today, still trying to recover from the weekend... :) ** | |
| [20:58:38] | jams: | anybody have some thoughts on why mythwelcome/mythfronted segfault in a chroot enviroment? |
| [20:59:51] | stuarta: | jams: what QT version? |
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| [21:00:56] | jams: | 3.3.8 |
| [21:01:12] | directhex: | 3.3.8 is busted |
| [21:01:39] | jams: | yes i know.. i thought it was still 3.3.6 |
| [21:02:00] | jams: | anyway strace shows it's looking for /dev/zero. like me try a bind mount real quick |
| [21:02:51] | jams: | ok that fixed it. |
| [21:03:15] | sphery: | gbee: I humbly apologize for assuming your big visible change in mythfrontend caused the mutex issue. I've verified that it's not your fault. Now just looking for a proper fix. |
| [21:03:40] | gbee: | hehe |
| [21:03:42] | gbee: | np |
| [21:04:28] | gbee: | tbh there was a good chance that it was my fault with all the commits I've made over the last week or two |
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| [21:05:28] | sphery: | Yeah. That's why I assumed. But you know what they say about making assumptions... Makes an *** out of u and mptions... |
| [21:06:37] | directhex: | leave my mptions out of this you bastard! |
| [21:07:16] | sphery: | :) |
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| [21:25:12] | planktonboy: | hi all |
| [21:26:12] | planktonboy: | anyone know about instant messaging using mythphone |
| [21:26:57] | planktonboy: | juswt wondering if it needs any other software to integrate that function as it doesnt seem to be working here |
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| [21:33:42] | gpd: | this flicker is very weird: it appears to only occur with foreground windows – but not with the desktop background... |
| [21:37:34] | Pete_: | gpd: Is the desktop background a dark color? |
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| [21:40:50] | gpd: | no – i think it is just because it is the same color |
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| [21:41:30] | gpd: | you seem to get the worst flicker around text / window borders |
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| [21:52:13] | Pete_: | i.e where there is a sharp change in colors? |
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| [21:55:46] | ubuntuEdgy: | any one know a giude on how to compile mythtv svn |
| [21:56:03] | ubuntuEdgy: | please post it. |
| [21:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.mythtv.org |
| [21:58:06] | GreyFoxx: | under Documentation |
| [21:58:40] | GreyFoxx: | Only thing it doesn't cover is getting the source whcih is shown on http://svn.mythtv.org's front page |
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| [22:00:41] | Dagmar: | ubuntuEdgy: Don't use SVN head unless a) you HAVE to for your tuner card support, or b) you are willing to fidx bugs you find |
| [22:00:49] | ubuntuEdgy: | i also found this http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.4 i think it mensions the source |
| [22:01:07] | ubuntuEdgy: | ok Dogmar |
| [22:01:14] | Dagmar: | ...and don't try SVN head if you can't follow simple instructions. |
| [22:01:41] | ubuntuEdgy: | sorry ? |
| [22:04:36] | mkrufky: | why would somebody HAVE to use svn head for tuner card support? |
| [22:05:13] | Dagmar: | There were two dvb-t cards that only worked with head I was told (by two users who were using them) |
| [22:05:34] | Dagmar: | Beyond that, it would have to be compulsive masochism |
| [22:06:08] | planktonboy: | Dagmar, what is head as opposed to trunk |
| [22:06:19] | Dagmar: | Same thing |
| [22:06:21] | planktonboy: | ok |
| [22:06:23] | planktonboy: | :) |
| [22:06:39] | planktonboy: | cheers |
| [22:06:45] | Dagmar: | For some reason, the clueless get confused when I say trunk |
| [22:06:55] | planktonboy: | right |
| [22:07:03] | Dagmar: | ...but most of them ahve seen what CVS HEAD is |
| [22:07:11] | planktonboy: | yeah |
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| [22:09:07] | gbee: | Dagmar: I'd rather say something like: "Don't use SVN head unless you are prepared to encounter bugs and report them correctly" |
| [22:09:28] | Dagmar: | Heh |
| [22:09:40] | Dagmar: | That always seems to turn into "it do not are working *pasteflood*" |
| [22:09:48] | gbee: | but otherwise I'd encourage people to use SVN head, the more people use it, the more bugs are reported and the better 0.21 will be when it's released ;) |
| [22:09:55] | planktonboy: | gbee, funny you say that |
| [22:09:58] | mkrufky: | Dagmar: probably just confused users who did their testing wrong...... device support should depend on the kernel, not mythtv version |
| [22:10:32] | Dagmar: | COnfused newbies don't have a clue about kernels or drivers or any of the other fun stuff that they need to know to do more than copy and paste commnands like a chimpanzee |
| [22:11:13] | planktonboy: | as I have been using head for a few weeks now and for the most part it works extremely well, but there are 1 or 2 things that I cant seem to figure if they are working properly or just something wrong with my setup |
| [22:11:19] | Dagmar: | I'm not trying to name names or anything but there's a particular distro that has been basically starting a whole new phase of the September That Never Ended |
| [22:11:59] | planktonboy: | so if I do find a possiblw bug where is the gbest place to report this or check for it...gossamer threads is only 1 I know? |
| [22:12:00] | mkrufky: | Dagmar: what do i need to google in order to understand THAT joke? |
| [22:12:26] | Dagmar: | "The September That Never Ended" |
| [22:12:34] | Dagmar: | I *wish* it were a joke |
| [22:13:03] | planktonboy: | mkrufky, hehe |
| [22:13:09] | mkrufky: | ;-) |
| [22:13:48] | gbee: | planktonboy: svn.mythtv.org (look at tickets) or sign up to the mythtv-dev mailing list |
| [22:13:49] | mkrufky: | ok, i get it now |
| [22:14:25] | gbee: | I'd recommend that everyone using SVN joins mythtv-dev and mythtv-commits |
| [22:14:56] | gbee: | (those are mailing lists btw, before anyone tries to join IRC channels called -dev or -commits) |
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| [22:15:00] | mkrufky: | lol |
| [22:15:28] | gbee: | http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInfo |
| [22:15:28] | mkrufky: | i wish there was a way to have the svn version installed concurrently with the stable version, without any risk of damage to the stable one |
| [22:15:31] | gbee: | at the bottom |
| [22:16:16] | sphery: | There is but it involves two different networks and > 2 different computers :) |
| [22:16:36] | sphery: | >= 2, actually |
| [22:17:03] | planktonboy: | gbee, ah yes of course, forgot about that place :) |
| [22:17:07] | planktonboy: | thanks |
| [22:17:08] | mkrufky: | yup, so, it's not happening |
| [22:17:29] | mkrufky: | i set up a separate mythbackend server for the sake of cx88-blackbird tests, and thats it |
| [22:17:37] | Dagmar: | OH some shell magic and a lot of filecopying could do it |
| [22:17:51] | Dagmar: | Just a bit of smoke and mirrors is all that would be needed |
| [22:18:56] | sphery: | Here, neither. I keep saying I'll set up a dev box, but NVIDIA EOL's my cards before I do, and I haven't felt like rewarding them by buying a new card just to keep the dev box identical to my production systems. |
| [22:19:22] | Dagmar: | Its' not like supported cards cost more than a cheeseburger |
| [22:19:24] | mkrufky: | i've got the mirrors and the smokes, but what does that have to do with my mythbackend? |
| [22:19:37] | mkrufky: | heheh, ok i gotta go guys... cu l8r |
| [22:19:46] | ** sphery wonders what a $30 cheeseburger takes like... :) ** | |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, go to Outback and find out? |
| [22:20:03] | Dagmar: | Very damn good |
| [22:20:08] | sphery: | lol |
| [22:20:23] | directhex: | i can has cheezburger? |
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| [22:20:36] | directhex: | sphery, i'd make you a mother of a good burger for £15 |
| [22:20:44] | sphery: | Yeah. It's bad enough buying new cards for my 3 production systems. Adding a 4th one would be wrong--you know, the principle of the matter. |
| [22:20:50] | Beirdo: | made with fresh "herb" |
| [22:21:18] | sphery: | Uh, you don't mean "herbs," do you? |
| [22:21:40] | Beirdo: | hey, for a $30 burger, it better be "herb" |
| [22:22:15] | hads: | heh |
| [22:22:19] | sphery: | lol (and someone afraid) |
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| [22:22:41] | Beirdo: | not that I indulge in such stuff... I'm not in Jamaica :) |
| [22:23:44] | sphery: | But you could always take a short trip over there for cheeseburgers... |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | "I'll take one ganjaburger, please"... hehe |
| [22:24:18] | planktonboy: | LOL |
| [22:24:32] | Beirdo: | straight off the cruise ship |
| [22:25:35] | directhex: | actually i was thinking tasty *legal* ingredients |
| [22:25:38] | directhex: | like nice meat |
| [22:25:45] | Beirdo: | oooooh |
| [22:25:50] | directhex: | but, y'know, whatever |
| [22:25:52] | Beirdo: | kobe beef-burger? |
| [22:26:18] | directhex: | kobe only really benefits as steak, since the fat distribution is one of the main features |
| [22:26:31] | Beirdo: | grind it up, it'd still make good burgers :) |
| [22:26:40] | stuarta: | bloody expensive burgers |
| [22:26:45] | directhex: | but not noticably better than decent lean steak |
| [22:26:55] | directhex: | once it;s ground, it stops being relevant that it was kobe |
| [22:26:59] | Beirdo: | true |
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| [22:27:51] | directhex: | do they have any goat in Beirdoland, or is that mostly jamaica? |
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| [22:28:06] | Beirdo: | I haven't seen any for sale here |
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| [22:28:14] | directhex: | hm. that's one i've never tried |
| [22:28:15] | Beirdo: | it's mainly pork, beef, chicken here |
| [22:28:21] | Beirdo: | goat curry is real good |
| [22:28:46] | Beirdo: | ate that occasionally in Toronto (Indian restaurants and Jamaican style both had goat) |
| [22:29:12] | directhex: | never had goat at a curry house |
| [22:29:16] | czth: | what NES emulator do people use? I tried Fce-Ultra, some games work, most halt with a gray screen |
| [22:29:33] | directhex: | nesticle's the best nes emulator. shame it's for windows |
| [22:29:52] | Dagmar: | I've had a burger that cost that much |
| [22:29:55] | Beirdo: | directhex, it's kinda like mutton but gamier |
| [22:29:56] | Dagmar: | It was worth it |
| [22:30:04] | directhex: | Beirdo, ooh, that sounds good. i love mutton |
| [22:30:05] | Dagmar: | THere are some cooks, people should just fucking worship |
| [22:30:09] | Beirdo: | Dagmar, I'd stick with Backyard Burgers |
| [22:30:13] | czth: | yes, shame :( |
| [22:30:18] | directhex: | Dagmar, i worship the guys from Iron Chef! |
| [22:30:21] | czth: | ack, i wish we had Backyard Burger around here |
| [22:30:40] | Beirdo: | that was one of the highlights of the Tennessee trip :) |
| [22:30:50] | Beirdo: | that and the JD distillery... and Beale St |
| [22:30:51] | Dagmar: | directhex: You can eat food prepared by people like that in two places I know of. Vegas, and San Francisco |
| [22:31:02] | directhex: | Dagmar, philly! |
| [22:31:43] | Dagmar: | directhex: Philly cheesesteaks of doom easily available just off Fulton and Haight street |
| [22:31:56] | Dagmar: | I ate lunch there like 2–3 times a week |
| [22:32:01] | Dagmar: | Walking six blocks each way. |
| [22:32:10] | Beirdo: | I wish we had Sonic down here |
| [22:32:50] | directhex: | Dagmar, i more meant http://www.chefmorimoto.com/ |
| [22:33:36] | ** Dr_willis gets out the Defibulator for Dagmar ** | |
| [22:34:13] | Dr_willis: | Im on a diet. :( cant have any of that good stuff.. |
| [22:35:12] | Dagmar: | I still think you would be unsettled by the quality of asian food in SF |
| [22:35:34] | Dagmar: | I've been told Japan and China have trouble keeping chefs because the best ones move to SF, and I can believe it |
| [22:36:41] | directhex: | actually my meatballs are much better than my burgers, even though the recipes are very similar |
| [22:36:52] | directhex: | i still haven't cracked the texture when making burgers |
| [22:37:17] | Dagmar: | THe secret is FIRE |
| [22:37:41] | Beirdo: | Wonder if Alton Brown did a Good Eats on burgers |
| [22:37:48] | directhex: | i need to make them more dense. i'm wondering if the food processor might eliminate more air |
| [22:38:14] | hads: | Don't process it. |
| [22:38:41] | Dagmar: | Pureeing the meat is what's killing your textture |
| [22:39:00] | hads: | You want to work it as little as possible |
| [22:40:10] | Beirdo: | fingers are a burger's best friend |
| [22:40:28] | Dagmar: | My cooking really pisses off the gf |
| [22:40:38] | Dagmar: | ...cuz left to my own devices, I just microwave stuff |
| [22:41:03] | Dagmar: | ...but i can build a grille from bricks and wire and cook mad food with real fire |
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| [22:42:02] | Dr_willis: | Beirdo, yes he did. basicially – keep it simple. and GRIND your own beef in a food processor. :) |
| [22:42:13] | Beirdo: | ah, K |
| [22:42:18] | Beirdo: | with pulses I'm sure |
| [22:42:21] | Dr_willis: | he did a course grind. |
| [22:42:34] | ** stuarta trouts postfix ** | |
| [22:42:40] | Dr_willis: | 5 pulses was for somthing, 6 for burgers. and a few more for beef tartar or somthing. |
| [22:42:44] | directhex: | my burgers are too airy. when it comes to turning them over on the grill, they implode |
| [22:42:50] | Dr_willis: | Your Millage may very :) |
| [22:42:50] | Beirdo: | stuarta, here, have sendmail :) |
| [22:42:59] | stuarta: | i hate sendmail |
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| [22:43:11] | Dr_willis: | I just cheat and get the premade ground chuck patties at the store. :) im lazy |
| [22:43:21] | Dr_willis: | wife wantes her burgers BURNT to a crisp anyway. |
| [22:43:22] | Dagmar: | directhex: Compress 'em more before you cook 'em, or use a leaner meat |
| [22:43:38] | Dr_willis: | Oh yea. he mixxed chuck and the other stuff i think also. |
| [22:43:44] | Dr_willis: | or was that for meatloaf. |
| [22:44:35] | stuarta: | dammit, the sockets there so why can't you see it postfix!! |
| [22:44:53] | Beirdo: | my wife can't eat much beef... gives her arthritis-like symptoms |
| [22:45:08] | Beirdo: | stuarta, check the perms and ownership on the sockets, etc |
| [22:45:20] | stuarta: | yeah, they are all good. |
| [22:45:22] | Beirdo: | postfix is picky about such things |
| [22:45:29] | Beirdo: | K |
| [22:45:35] | stuarta: | it's odd, it works when i postsuper -r the msg |
| [22:45:37] | planktonboy: | bbiab |
| [22:45:41] | directhex: | Dagmar, hm, can't get lean mutton for love nor money though |
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| [22:45:55] | Beirdo: | did you change the config while stuff was already queued? |
| [22:46:05] | Beirdo: | if so, you'd need to requeue the stuff to use the new rules |
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| [22:46:43] | stuarta: | been there, trying without any config changes and it still needs requeueing to work... |
| [22:47:15] | stuarta: | which is huh???? wtf???? territory |
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| [22:47:51] | joseph_: | good afternoon everyone! |
| [22:47:56] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [22:48:09] | joseph_: | what is the best card for the tv tuner card for mythtv? |
| [22:48:11] | stuarta: | i'll get out my voodoo kit. |
| [22:48:18] | joseph_: | i'm looking at building one, but I want to know what would be best |
| [22:48:32] | joseph_: | i've heard that haupauge is good |
| [22:48:38] | joseph_: | like the pvr-350 |
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| [22:48:43] | joseph_: | but i'm wanting the option for HD |
| [22:48:50] | Beirdo: | stuarta, also be sure that you don't have old postfix processes that didn't get shut down. That one caught me last week |
| [22:49:22] | Beirdo: | I had to look REALLY carefully at the pid to find that it was old |
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| [22:50:05] | Beirdo: | still like postfix better than exim though |
| [22:50:22] | stuarta: | sadly we use exim at work |
| [22:50:42] | ** stuarta starts ranting at postfix ** | |
| [22:50:46] | ** Dagmar casually makes sendmail walk a tightrope while juggling email ** | |
| [22:50:56] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:51:17] | Beirdo: | at a previous job (with 5 other UNIX admins), I was the one and only sendmail expert |
| [22:51:23] | Beirdo: | glad those days are past |
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| [23:06:47] | Andyman53: | Hey all |
| [23:07:01] | Andyman53: | anyone know how to get rid of the green line on the bottom of mythtv recordings? |
| [23:07:17] | Dagmar: | Stop using a framegrabber card |
| [23:07:29] | Andyman53: | i manually adjusted it on my monitor, but that doesn't work on tv out |
| [23:07:40] | Andyman53: | i have a hauppague pvr-250 |
| [23:09:01] | Dagmar: | OKay. That shouldn't be happening then |
| [23:09:15] | Dagmar: | What version of MythTV are you using? |
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| [23:10:40] | Dagmar: | A sort of workaround is to run `xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 0` immediately before starting the frontend (as in, after X has started), but there's something that you've let fall very behind in versions because I'm pretty sure that green is the overlay area, which should not be showing unless something's got a bug in it no one else has anymore |
| [23:11:07] | Dagmar: | ....but if you don't know what version of MythTV you're using, then you're pretty much stuck with the workaround. |
| [23:12:49] | Andyman53: | its installed less than a month ago |
| [23:12:53] | Andyman53: | how do i check? |
| [23:13:56] | Anduin: | Andyman53: mythfrontend --version |
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| [23:14:33] | Andyman53: | one sec |
| [23:15:20] | Andyman53: | library api version? |
| [23:15:33] | Andyman53: | 0.20.20060828–4 |
| [23:15:39] | Andyman53: | Source Code version: unknown |
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| [23:18:26] | Andyman53: | i don't have any playback adjustments either |
| [23:19:10] | Anduin: | Andyman53: have you confirmed that the green line isn't in the recording? |
| [23:19:26] | Andyman53: | what's the difference? |
| [23:19:30] | Andyman53: | i think it comes up in live tv too |
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| [23:20:39] | Anduin: | Andyman53: a valid test would be to play the same file in another player |
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| [23:21:04] | Andyman53: | ok |
| [23:21:14] | Andyman53: | i think i can do that through mythweb or vlc |
| [23:21:25] | Andyman53: | any reason playback filters aren't coming on though? |
| [23:21:42] | Andyman53: | colors are bleeding like contrast is too high (fine on my monitor though) |
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| [23:34:18] | Andyman53: | yeah its there |
| [23:34:22] | Andyman53: | only when you make it fullscreen though |
| [23:35:45] | Andyman53: | xvattr command not found |
| [23:36:07] | hads: | install it |
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| [23:49:01] | Andyman53: | xvattr: couldn't open display |
| [23:49:07] | Andyman53: | and xlib: connection refused to server |
| [23:49:36] | hads: | Are you asking a question or just pasting random error messages? |
| [23:50:34] | Andyman53: | actually im responding to anduin and dagmar |
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| [23:56:55] | Beirdo: | OK, bot's getting a small labotomy, it will be right back |
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| [23:58:05] | Beirdo: | there was a race condition in socket timeout... if the server didn't ping quite fast enough, the bot would disconnect |
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