| Thursday, June 7th, 2007, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:03] | Aquahallic: | hmmm |
| [00:00:23] | Aquahallic: | think it's just because reiser supports the small files?? |
| [00:00:27] | Aquahallic: | makes it too slow? |
| [00:00:41] | juski: | keep it away from sharp objects too |
| [00:00:50] | Aquahallic: | lol |
| [00:01:52] | juski: | it's like gbee said anyway- takes your choice – it might work for you |
| [00:02:25] | juski: | ext3 is what ubuntu give everybody by default so it can't be all that bad |
| [00:02:39] | juski: | just if you ever do a 300GB delete in one go – watch out! |
| [00:04:19] | juski: | but then the problem I saw was no doubt more to do with accidentally filling / |
| [00:04:52] | Aquahallic: | well my storage drive is 500 gig |
| [00:05:00] | juski: | mysql fills its pants if you let disk space get too low on the partition where the db lives |
| [00:05:28] | juski: | in my case it resulted in me having to restore a backup from the previous night |
| [00:06:54] | Aquahallic: | :/ |
| [00:07:20] | Aquahallic: | well my root partition has 60 gig left |
| [00:07:28] | ** Aquahallic thinks he has a while yet ** | |
| [00:08:02] | Aquahallic: | SH!T I gotta move all this stuff to reformat this drive...:/ |
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| [00:44:36] | Aquahallic: | in the menus... under recording profiles.. there's an encoders settings.. there's a couple in there... Default.. livetv...... does livetv always use the livetv profile?? or do I need to select which profile livetv uses??? |
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| [00:49:57] | juski: | livetv is always just livtv |
| [00:50:18] | juski: | amazing, it being so damn obvious eh? ;) |
| [00:52:56] | Aquahallic: | lol |
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| [00:53:26] | Aquahallic: | well I thought I read somewhere that if you went in and edited one.. that whichever one you edited would be the playback for that session |
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| [00:53:46] | ** Aquahallic prolly read it wrong... have done so much reading lately...LOL ** | |
| [00:56:38] | jams: | congrats juski |
| [00:58:43] | Aquahallic: | what's a good bitrate to capture at?? |
| [00:59:26] | juski: | thanks jams :) |
| [00:59:37] | juski: | Aquahallic: whatever works for you |
| [00:59:50] | juski: | the defaults seem fine to my eyes |
| [01:00:16] | juski: | oh joy! there's another mythtv forum. ffs |
| [01:03:18] | jams: | yeah that forum has taken a beating arleady on the ml |
| [01:03:57] | jams: | only thing i don't like is the fact you have to signup to VIEW the dang thing |
| [01:04:07] | juski: | my sentiment exactly |
| [01:04:17] | juski: | and why the need for another forum anyway? |
| [01:04:40] | juski: | knoppmyth has its own, mythdora have theirs, then there's mythtvtalk... |
| [01:04:47] | jams: | oh i don't see the need, but if he wants to.... |
| [01:04:58] | jams: | i'm sure it will never take off |
| [01:05:04] | juski: | yeah I guess if he likes flogging a dead horse |
| [01:05:35] | juski: | trouble with mythtvtalk is that only a very small hard core of helpers stick around |
| [01:06:04] | jams: | i admit it..I never go there anymore |
| [01:06:06] | juski: | and we get loads of idiots who ask dumb questions, find them unanswered & 'bump' their own threads |
| [01:06:41] | juski: | I've cut way back. it's too soul-destroying being one of only a handful |
| [01:07:00] | jams: | same reason i only help a few people here |
| [01:07:10] | jams: | after a while it just sucks the soul out of you |
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| [01:09:15] | juski: | yeah jams – and not in a good way either |
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| [01:09:55] | jams: | heh |
| [01:10:57] | jams: | soooo juski now that your a dev any thougts on 1080 support for themes? |
| [01:11:19] | jams: | i have been looking through the code and it looks very straight forward to implment |
| [01:12:22] | juski: | I've thought it a bit limiting , 720P |
| [01:12:30] | juski: | so I'm all for it |
| [01:12:40] | jams: | perhaps i will play with it a bit more |
| [01:12:50] | juski: | I was having a hunt in the code earlier to implement a safe area mod for the setup menus |
| [01:13:08] | jams: | oh the setup menus are outside your control |
| [01:13:09] | juski: | make it use a 10% or so border so buttons don't go awol |
| [01:13:14] | jams: | thats all qt |
| [01:13:25] | juski: | I know |
| [01:13:42] | juski: | I mean I know it's not themable ;) |
| [01:13:51] | jams: | geckofiend said it's WAY to much trouble to fix that |
| [01:14:03] | jams: | and if he said so, then i'm not oging to 2nd guess it |
| [01:14:41] | jams: | even the myth code has little control over the setup themes |
| [01:14:45] | juski: | didn't look that way to me – appears to be a bit of code that gets the current window size & bases the widgets off that |
| [01:15:20] | juski: | but then – I'm no programmer :) |
| [01:15:34] | juski: | and I did only have a quick look |
| [01:15:45] | jams: | i have little reason to doubt him..but maybe he was being lazy that day |
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| [01:18:41] | jshewey: | I am having trouble with lirc. When I run irw, everything works and shows up ok, but when I use mythtv, my remote does not work. |
| [01:19:01] | jams: | jshewey- do you have a ~/.mythtv/lircrc file ? |
| [01:19:10] | jshewey: | I have properly set up my lircrc file in ~/.lircrc and ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:19:23] | juski: | jams – this is what I thought I could hack on.. one little line here: gContext->GetScreenSettings(wmult, hmult); |
| [01:19:23] | jshewey: | For both mythtv user and my regular user (miranda) |
| [01:19:37] | jshewey: | They both have rw permissions and have ownership of their respective files. |
| [01:20:48] | jshewey: | The only logs I have is the syslog and /var/log/mythtv/myth-backend.log |
| [01:21:09] | jshewey: | I also tried running mythfrontend from a terminal, but no mention of lircrc. |
| [01:21:13] | jshewey: | I am using ubuntu. |
| [01:21:17] | Anduin: | jshewey: your frontend log depends on your packager |
| [01:21:43] | jams: | hi Anduin |
| [01:21:49] | jshewey: | Got it. I really don't think it is being logged. |
| [01:22:06] | jshewey: | where can I set the log? in the startup script? |
| [01:22:57] | jams: | jshewey- yes that would be a good place to look |
| [01:23:15] | jams: | although running mythfrontend from a termnial would also work |
| [01:23:58] | jshewey: | When I run from a terminal, there is no mention of lirc at all. |
| [01:24:25] | jshewey: | To log: do I just pipe the output to a file, or is there a switch when starting the frontend |
| [01:25:27] | jams: | jshewey- mythfrontend --help |
| [01:26:01] | jshewey: | tried that already -no mention of logging |
| [01:26:34] | jshewey: | No manpage for mythfrontend either |
| [01:26:40] | Anduin: | jshewey: I'm also not sure that message is there in 0.20 |
| [01:26:41] | Anduin: | hi jams |
| [01:27:45] | jshewey: | I am using 0.20 |
| [01:29:12] | jams: | jshewey- the log switch may not be in .20 in which case you can redirect it to a file |
| [01:30:17] | jshewey: | OK. Still no mention of lirc by mythfrontend though. |
| [01:30:37] | jshewey: | I am sure that it is compiled with lirc support too. |
| [01:31:44] | jams: | jshewey- ldd /usr/bin/mythfrontend |grep lirc |
| [01:31:57] | jams: | if it finds something then it has lirc support |
| [01:32:12] | jams: | of course adjust the path to mythfrontend as needed |
| [01:33:24] | jams: | jshewey- other then that i would double check your lircrc file to make sure all it's setup correctly. make sure button names match and so forth |
| [01:34:52] | jshewey: | Interesting: nothing found. Which is odd because ubuntu compiles with lirc support by default. I know this because people have gotten lirc working right out of the repos with no problems on the forums. |
| [01:35:06] | jshewey: | My issue is unique to ubuntu (there are no posts on it) |
| [01:35:29] | jshewey: | Ahhh. It says the it is not a dynamic executable. Thats why. |
| [01:35:35] | jshewey: | I had to remove the grep |
| [01:35:59] | jshewey: | It's cause they use mythfrontend.real |
| [01:36:28] | jshewey: | Yep, grep shows that it has support. |
| [01:36:54] | jshewey: | (after accounting for the real file being mythfrontend.real) |
| [01:37:32] | jshewey: | Is there any way to verify that the syntax of lircrc is correct? |
| [01:37:55] | jams: | just by looking at it =) |
| [01:38:30] | jshewey: | Bummer. Too bad there isn't a parser for it. :( |
| [01:38:50] | jams: | pastebin your /etc/lircrc file and your ~.lircrc file |
| [01:39:04] | jams: | now your sure that irw works as the mythtv user? |
| [01:39:59] | Anduin: | If you are running 0.20 ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:40:40] | jshewey: | positive irw works |
| [01:41:05] | jams: | oh yeah .mythtv/lircrc is what i meant to type |
| [01:43:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | jshewey: Basically, /etc/lircd.conf has the 'mappings' of key names to ir signal patterns |
| [01:43:33] | jshewey: | Can't Pastebin: |
| [01:43:41] | jshewey: | Query failure: Can't open file: 'recent.MYI'. (errno: 145) |
| [01:43:50] | jshewey: | lock tables recent write |
| [01:44:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | jshewey: And the lircrc file maps those remote keys to mythtv (and oter program) functions... They have to match... |
| [01:44:17] | jshewey: | I knew that. It's highly possible that I have the syntax wrong. I used a template though. |
| [01:44:45] | jshewey: | I'm going to post a short section here since pastebin is down. It's like 6 lines |
| [01:44:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | jshewey: Well, if irw works, and every key is working, then your /etc/lircd.conf is fine. |
| [01:45:17] | jshewey: | begin |
| [01:45:17] | jshewey: | prog = mythtv |
| [01:45:17] | jshewey: | remote = Hauppauge_350 |
| [01:45:17] | jshewey: | button = CH- |
| [01:45:17] | jshewey: | config = Down |
| [01:45:18] | jshewey: | end |
| [01:45:46] | J-e-f-f-A: | jshewey: So when you run irw and press Channel-down, does it print "CH-" on the screen? |
| [01:45:49] | jshewey: | That's how my blocks basically look. Is there another way to verify that my lircrc file is correct (without using myth?) |
| [01:48:00] | jshewey: | Yes. |
| [01:50:14] | J-e-f-f-A: | jshewey: use http://pastebin.ca and paste both files |
| [01:50:53] | jshewey: | More specifically I get: 00000000000017a1 01 CH- Hauppauge from irw |
| [01:51:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | Well, then — I think you need to change "Hauppauge_350" to "Hauppauge" in your .lircrc file |
| [01:54:36] | jshewey: | I'll give that go |
| [01:55:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | jshewey: IE: The remote name in the /etc/lircd.conf needs to match the remote name in .lircrc — and according to irw, your remote name is "Hauppauge" |
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| [01:58:53] | jshewey: | That got it. Thanks guys! |
| [01:58:59] | jshewey: | You are awesome. |
| [01:59:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | jshewey: okeydokey! |
| [01:59:12] | jshewey: | Stupid thing to miss. But isn't it always? |
| [01:59:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | jshewey: Yeah, things can get confusing... But you'll probably remember that for a long, long time now... ;-) |
| [02:01:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Gee, would anyone be interested in my PVR-350 that I'm not using anymore? |
| [02:01:23] | jshewey: | no kidding. I actually knew that, but I think maybe I just accidentally left the _350 from the template I used, so it was just a stupid mistake on my part. |
| [02:01:39] | jshewey: | I guess you just need someone to talk you through stuff sometimes though... |
| [02:01:47] | juski: | J-e-f-f-A: maybe ask in #vdr ;) |
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| [02:02:27] | jams: | ok this is the last avocent KVM i'm buying |
| [02:02:38] | jams: | thats two of them just quit working |
| [02:02:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | juski: kewl. I'll first test it to make sure it hasn't 'gone south' in the year or so it's been sitting in my old backend, unused... Then find the box and all accessories (pigtail, remote sensor & remote...)..... ;-) |
| [02:02:49] | jams: | on this one the mouse usb port went |
| [02:02:58] | jams: | the other one the dvi port just quit |
| [02:03:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | jams: Are you constantly getting whacked with static? |
| [02:03:17] | jshewey: | Or buying seconds? |
| [02:03:23] | jams: | J-e-f-f-A- nope |
| [02:03:50] | jams: | just help jshewey and suddently the mouse stopped |
| [02:04:34] | ** jams goes looking for a new dvi/kvm ** | |
| [02:04:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | jams: Humm... I dunno... I'm still 'old-fashioned' I guess... My kvm is still PS/2... ;-) |
| [02:04:44] | jshewey: | I get that problem on my kvm. Usually switching PC and then switching back once or twice works for me. |
| [02:04:50] | jshewey: | Never figured out why though. |
| [02:04:58] | jshewey: | I have PS/2 too though. |
| [02:05:27] | jams: | jshewey- yeah that does occur with ps2 |
| [02:06:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | Well, it works... ;-) I've even got an 8-way 'professional' Cybex SwitchView Gold kvm switch from when we moved our computer room at work last year, and they didn't want it anymore. ;-) |
| [02:07:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | The 9 sets of KVM cables weigh in at something like 40 lbs... (They're all either 6' or 8' long...) |
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| [02:10:59] | jams: | i asked the local computer store to start stocking them, so they went out a bought a couple for me. it's a shame they got 2port KVM's instead of 4+ port |
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| [02:57:51] | WattoDaToydarian: | Hello everyone, I am running the latest SVN trunk version and I cant get mythweather and mythmovietime to work. |
| [02:58:43] | WattoDaToydarian: | Mythweather says "Failed to download image" a few times and spits out garbage on the screen. |
| [02:58:58] | clever: | sh: /usr/local/bin/mythcommflag: not found |
| [02:58:59] | WattoDaToydarian: | Mythmovietime just crashes the frontend |
| [02:59:18] | clever: | default value for that ignores --prefix on configure |
| [02:59:23] | Anduin: | WattoDaToydarian: both are broken |
| [02:59:33] | clever: | i can fix it but it would be better if it didnt exist:P |
| [02:59:52] | WattoDaToydarian: | oh shucks, lol |
| [02:59:52] | clever: | i can fix the source myself and make a patch with a few mins work |
| [03:00:13] | WattoDaToydarian: | well if it works then go for it |
| [03:01:24] | WattoDaToydarian: | Also, is it possible to start a mytharchive job on a remote frontend and have it run on the master backend? |
| [03:01:33] | Anduin: | WattoDaToydarian: MythMovies was just added to svn (trunk not fixes) |
| [03:01:45] | WattoDaToydarian: | right, I saw that |
| [03:05:13] | WattoDaToydarian: | does anyone have the answer to my mytharchive question? |
| [03:06:06] | livingtm: | The power went out and my sql is complaining about not being closed cleanly. how do i check/repair the myth database? |
| [03:06:28] | hads: | There is a optimise script in contrib which will do that for you. |
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| [03:18:16] | livingtm: | hads, I cant seem to find contrib |
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| [03:19:12] | hads: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . thtv/contrib |
| [03:20:05] | livingtm: | hads, im running ubuntu feisty, and the doc/mythtv-0.20 directory doesnt exist |
| [03:20:47] | clever: | locatecontrib|grep myth |
| [03:20:53] | clever: | insert a space where it fits |
| [03:20:56] | clever: | that may work |
| [03:25:42] | clever: | confirm the info in mysql.txt |
| [03:25:55] | clever: | and try running with -v none,database |
| [03:26:00] | clever: | to see just db errors/info |
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| [03:27:36] | livingtm: | mysql.txt looks good |
| [03:29:07] | clever: | try connecting |
| [03:29:18] | clever: | mysql -u USER -p -h host |
| [03:29:28] | clever: | from the frontend |
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| [03:30:22] | livingtm: | okay, running with -v shows loads of queries, but not errors. frontend starts up, but when i go to "watch recordings" i get a pop up window that says "could not connect to master back end" |
| [03:30:41] | clever: | seperate back/frontends? |
| [03:30:44] | livingtm: | yes |
| [03:30:56] | livingtm: | which ran great until my power went out :-/ |
| [03:31:33] | clever: | is the master backend still going? |
| [03:31:34] | livingtm: | i seem to be able to connect find |
| [03:31:44] | livingtm: | its running, and i can connect via mysql command line |
| [03:31:54] | clever: | the mythbackend on it though |
| [03:31:56] | clever: | not the mysql |
| [03:35:19] | livingtm: | clever, woah, no the backend wasnt running.. WTF |
| [03:35:31] | clever: | lol that easy:) |
| [03:35:48] | livingtm: | no its no that easy |
| [03:35:53] | livingtm: | .... :-( |
| [03:36:01] | livingtm: | it looks like the backend is dying on me |
| [03:36:19] | clever: | check its logs/output then |
| [03:36:49] | livingtm: | i started the backend, then on the frontend selected "view recordings" and i go the same error.. then checked the backend and it had died |
| [03:37:08] | clever: | run the backend in a term window as the proper user |
| [03:37:21] | clever: | so you can see the instant it exists and thee errorsit craps out |
| [03:37:33] | clever: | exits* |
| [03:37:45] | livingtm: | 2007-06–06 23:37:04.804 MainServer: HandleRemoteEncoder(cmd GET_STATE) Unknown e |
| [03:37:46] | livingtm: | ncoder: 2, exiting |
| [03:38:02] | clever: | no idea but atleast where close |
| [03:38:17] | clever: | some1 else can take over now |
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| [03:40:04] | ** clever pokes cesman with the above error:P ** | |
| [03:40:17] | cesman: | I'd say run mythtv-setup and check your tuners |
| [03:41:04] | clever: | sounds good:) |
| [03:42:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | make sure you don't have a tuner defined without a videosource. I think that's what caused that error for some people. search for "handleremoteencoder get_state" on the mailing list archives and you'll find it discussed lots |
| [03:42:50] | Captain_Murdoch: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . rch_type=AND |
| [03:43:09] | clever: | getting something odd here |
| [03:43:17] | clever: | the WLAN led on my router is blinking |
| [03:43:20] | clever: | and theres no wifi clients |
| [03:44:23] | clever: | no wifi clients though |
| [03:44:41] | Captain_Murdoch: | any wifi clients? |
| [03:45:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | :) |
| [03:45:06] | clever: | nope checked the wifi client list in the conf |
| [03:45:27] | livingtm: | ah i know what it was |
| [03:45:33] | livingtm: | that damn USB tuner |
| [03:45:37] | clever: | ahhh |
| [03:45:43] | clever: | unpluged? |
| [03:45:53] | livingtm: | the firmware doesnt load automagically |
| [03:46:08] | livingtm: | and with a server uptime of 175 days, i forgot about it ;-0 |
| [03:46:15] | clever: | lol nice |
| [03:46:25] | livingtm: | damn power outtage, i was on a roll :-) |
| [03:46:39] | livingtm: | so i bought a battery backup... and a PVR500 :-) |
| [03:49:05] | clever: | i have a ups feeding my rh9 switch dsl router |
| [03:49:16] | clever: | so the irc network and 1 website will stay up |
| [03:49:23] | clever: | but it bearly lasts atm with the current baterys |
| [03:49:57] | livingtm: | .... and you cant change the battery without unplugging it and shutting down.. ? |
| [03:50:10] | clever: | if i disconnect the batery it dies |
| [03:50:22] | clever: | but i have a long cable running out of it to a pair of 12v baterys |
| [03:50:33] | clever: | so aslong as i have 1 connected i can add/remove more |
| [03:51:04] | clever: | by wiring it up right i can increase the life |
| [03:51:08] | clever: | all the +'s together |
| [03:51:11] | clever: | all the -'s together |
| [03:51:17] | clever: | i got over 10 12v baterys |
| [03:51:27] | livingtm: | hehe |
| [03:51:28] | clever: | just not enough cabling to get them all going |
| [03:51:34] | clever: | and dad claims i would overload the ups |
| [03:51:51] | clever: | but i think that adding more baterys will just lessen the current drain from each when on batery |
| [03:52:05] | clever: | and lessen the charge going into each and just devide the current up when charging |
| [03:52:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | need some heavy duty diodes to keep the batteries from feeding into each other if you have all the +'s connected together and all the -'s connected together. |
| [03:52:26] | clever: | aslong as there at the same level that probly wont happen |
| [03:52:26] | livingtm: | clever, it depends on how the UPS determines that its time to shutdown |
| [03:52:28] | Anduin: | make sure his fire policy is up to date |
| [03:52:35] | clever: | lol |
| [03:52:46] | clever: | yeah wire it wrong and you may get 120 v dc |
| [03:52:48] | livingtm: | if its measuring current, and expecting its built in battery capacity, your goingto shutdown anyhow |
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| [03:53:00] | clever: | even then you can get over 100 amps easily from sticking that many at once |
| [03:53:06] | Dr_willis: | time to get a generator. :) |
| [03:53:15] | clever: | i once wired it into a ton of baterys |
| [03:53:20] | clever: | and ran my tv off it |
| [03:53:23] | clever: | with a current meter in the line |
| [03:53:33] | clever: | after i think 50mins |
| [03:53:36] | clever: | the voltage got low |
| [03:53:45] | clever: | and it started switching to a second curcuit |
| [03:53:51] | livingtm: | i've seen 10 car batteries in series blow an adjustable wrench into two pieces |
| [03:53:58] | clever: | which drew higher current less voltage to get 120 ac |
| [03:54:05] | clever: | and made more humming |
| [03:54:18] | clever: | it kept spiking over 10amps |
| [03:54:32] | clever: | the amp meter+cables where warming up |
| [03:54:46] | clever: | but the thin alegator clips |
| [03:54:50] | clever: | one of which had a full 10 amps |
| [03:54:54] | clever: | wherent heating at all |
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| [03:57:31] | WattoDaToydarian: | Does anyone know how to make plugins appear in mythweb? |
| [03:57:35] | livingtm: | If i have a pvr500, do i need two video sources even though they are the same? |
| [03:58:00] | jams: | livingtm- no you can setup both tuners to use the same video source |
| [03:58:16] | livingtm: | jams, okay cool... seems like i tried that once and got a screwed up channel DB |
| [03:58:37] | jams: | i have four tuners one video source |
| [03:59:57] | Dr_willis: | ya got to run 4 wires? |
| [04:00:14] | Dr_willis: | or do they all use the same cable input? |
| [04:00:21] | jams: | Dr_willis- only two wires |
| [04:00:33] | livingtm: | any signal quality issues? |
| [04:00:35] | jams: | 2 pvr500's so one cable for each card |
| [04:01:09] | jams: | livingtm- not really. once card has some lines with channel 6 but thats it |
| [04:01:53] | livingtm: | very cool. I dont own two, but i wondered if it would be worth it :-) |
| [04:02:03] | livingtm: | can always use 1 more tuner.... |
| [04:02:31] | jams: | heh it started out as rare when i would use all tuners |
| [04:02:41] | jams: | but the wife solved that "problem" for me |
| [04:02:49] | livingtm: | jams, i can imagine |
| [04:02:52] | Dr_willis: | My wife just watches 1 channel all day |
| [04:02:58] | Dr_willis: | 'Life Time Movie network' |
| [04:02:59] | livingtm: | thats why i got the dual |
| [04:03:16] | livingtm: | the kids are young, and they watch recorded stuff more than live stuff |
| [04:03:49] | livingtm: | but the wife records martha stuart which is on during sesame street... so thats a problem..... hehe |
| [04:04:57] | livingtm: | hard to relate to that insanity unless you have kids.... |
| [04:05:26] | livingtm: | the kids dont uderstand "But daddy only has one tuner" |
| [04:09:49] | ** cesman has 7 tuners and no wife or children ** | |
| [04:10:06] | ** clever has a father who refuses to even listen to me talking about mythtv ** | |
| [04:10:24] | clever: | and on the rare ocasion i can drag him to watch a show on it:P |
| [04:14:57] | Arfdee: | what do you start myythfrontend with to override and use qt as painter? |
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| [04:17:56] | Dr_willis: | show him the comercial zap feature. :0 |
| [04:18:03] | Dr_willis: | :) thats what gets them! |
| [04:20:50] | livingtm: | commercial zap kicks ass |
| [04:20:52] | Arfdee: | can someone tell me what the parameter is for mythfrontend to force qt painter? |
| [04:20:59] | livingtm: | no other way to watch |
| [04:21:14] | Arfdee: | it's -O something for painter |
| [04:21:49] | Dr_willis: | livingtm, my next task is to get MythTV recording my shows, converting them to Portable format for my GP2x and sending them tothe memory stick. :) |
| [04:22:00] | Dr_willis: | livingtm, then i just need to find time to watch the shows.. |
| [04:22:25] | Arfdee: | or the frontend resolution thing |
| [04:22:35] | livingtm: | Dr_willis, Oh, i have my shows exported as podcasts and synched to my ipod video |
| [04:24:53] | clever: | but you got recordings:P |
| [04:25:00] | livingtm: | but if i were a commuter i could see it |
| [04:25:02] | Dr_willis: | I got lots of videos also. :) |
| [04:25:12] | Dr_willis: | I sit at work and watch shows.. but its a bit noisy at work |
| [04:25:21] | clever: | Dr_willis: and my dad isnt impressed by comercial skiping:P |
| [04:25:24] | Arfdee: | please, is there a way to see all the override options for mythfrontend? |
| [04:25:24] | Dr_willis: | of course I hide from the boss. |
| [04:25:26] | clever: | or any of the pvr features |
| [04:25:49] | Dr_willis: | clever, go buy him some New Black socks and Sandals and a Metal Detector then.... |
| [04:25:50] | Dr_willis: | :) |
| [04:25:51] | clever: | he just claims its more complex then it needs to be and works fine without the comp |
| [04:26:11] | Dr_willis: | dont forget the plaid shorts also. |
| [04:26:25] | clever: | and its nearly imposible to get him to go walking in the woods on the paths ive found:P |
| [04:26:36] | Dr_willis: | Golf. :) |
| [04:26:43] | clever: | he isnt that old |
| [04:26:47] | clever: | :P |
| [04:26:49] | clever: | and he has a job |
| [04:26:53] | Dr_willis: | "And stay off my lawn!" |
| [04:26:54] | Dr_willis: | :) |
| [04:26:57] | clever: | lol |
| [04:27:33] | clever: | also where 1000 miles from the house+backend atm |
| [04:27:34] | Dr_willis: | I did see a feature in a DVD player program i liked (i think it was in a dvd player program) |
| [04:27:48] | clever: | all my backend trafic is limited to 50kb/sec in the direction that maters |
| [04:28:01] | Dr_willis: | ya could speed up the video about 5–20% and the sound would work/speed up also. so you could watch a movie faster. :) |
| [04:28:16] | clever: | mythtv can do that with the internal player |
| [04:28:25] | Dr_willis: | Not noticed that feature then. |
| [04:28:26] | clever: | mplayer can do it but the audio freq's get messed up |
| [04:28:38] | clever: | hit a when playing a recording in mythtv |
| [04:28:41] | clever: | tv based recording |
| [04:28:44] | Dr_willis: | Can it do it on avi files as well as recorded shows? |
| [04:28:49] | clever: | not shure |
| [04:29:03] | clever: | but it can be done on recorded shows and livetv |
| [04:29:21] | clever: | so you could watch livetv at 70% speed |
| [04:29:26] | Dr_willis: | :) |
| [04:29:27] | clever: | and manualy ff the comercials |
| [04:29:31] | Dr_willis: | look at those race cars go! |
| [04:29:41] | clever: | and the slow speed lets it get behind again so you have room to ff |
| [04:29:47] | clever: | lol that too |
| [04:29:48] | Dr_willis: | I used it to watch some of these LONG movies in a shorter time. |
| [04:29:54] | clever: | set it for 2x on a recorded show |
| [04:30:05] | Dr_willis: | it really annoyed the people watching the show with me. :) |
| [04:30:11] | clever: | lol |
| [04:30:19] | Dr_willis: | 'Why is the people talking so fast?!' |
| [04:30:25] | clever: | i find it fun to addjust the speed in mplayer and mess up the freq |
| [04:30:31] | clever: | sounds more diff:P |
| [04:30:45] | clever: | once i was playing it at 95% |
| [04:30:48] | clever: | while it was downloading |
| [04:30:48] | Dr_willis: | "Why dont the voices match their lips!" |
| [04:30:54] | clever: | so it wouldnt catch up as fast |
| [04:30:57] | Dr_willis: | :) (you are seeing things mom!) |
| [04:31:02] | clever: | and halfway thru i forgot |
| [04:31:10] | clever: | and then noticed the voices where off:P |
| [04:31:33] | clever: | mplayer addjusts the speed with {} [] and backspace |
| [04:31:42] | clever: | one set goes +- 10% |
| [04:31:48] | clever: | the other it 50% |
| [04:32:02] | clever: | so you can instantly half/double it or addjust it in small bits |
| [04:32:07] | clever: | backspace resets to 100% |
| [04:32:24] | clever: | and on winblows it horibly messes up the sync even after you reset it to 1x |
| [04:32:24] | Dr_willis: | I ermber whyi use a wireless keyboard now – Not a remote. :) |
| [04:32:33] | clever: | lol |
| [04:32:35] | clever: | my mythtv remote |
| [04:32:45] | clever: | is a mini pc keyboard on a 20foot extension |
| [04:32:56] | Dr_willis: | Yep. i got a nice wireless kbrd. |
| [04:33:06] | Dr_willis: | Id like to find one thats a keyboard+minitrackball wireless. |
| [04:33:26] | clever: | i got a wireless mouse but dont use it much on mythtv |
| [04:33:26] | Dr_willis: | well night all. take care |
| [04:33:27] | Arfdee: | what's the -O to change resolution of front end? |
| [04:33:29] | Arfdee: | gui |
| [04:33:37] | livingtm: | Im working on a Remote Control using my N770 |
| [04:34:00] | livingtm: | that has a nice finger-keyboard on demand |
| [04:34:00] | clever: | id like to get my bluetooth usb thingy working with my headset |
| [04:34:10] | clever: | or the treo |
| [04:34:33] | clever: | which gives me an idea |
| [04:34:35] | livingtm: | yeah bluetooth would be cool because as you walk through the house you can automatically select he closest frontend to control :-) |
| [04:34:49] | clever: | to sync the treo over bt you make a fake serial port on the pc |
| [04:34:52] | clever: | and the sync goes thru that |
| [04:35:03] | clever: | im guessing any other palm prog can access that port |
| [04:35:11] | clever: | so i could make a mythtv control prog |
| [04:35:22] | clever: | and then on the pc link fakecom to the network control port of the frontend |
| [04:35:28] | Arfdee: | do you guys help people? |
| [04:35:29] | livingtm: | anyone use kdevelop? |
| [04:35:38] | livingtm: | only if we know the answers |
| [04:35:47] | clever: | then i just need to make a prog which controls mythtv |
| [04:35:55] | Arfdee: | i was just wondering if there is a listing of the override settings |
| [04:35:57] | Arfdee: | for -O |
| [04:35:59] | clever: | and selects which pc to get the comport thru |
| [04:36:11] | clever: | Arfdee: i think it can take anything from the settings mysql table |
| [04:36:11] | livingtm: | Arfdee, you could try googling for it, or the mythtv wiki |
| [04:36:19] | Arfdee: | livingtm, i did |
| [04:36:27] | Arfdee: | clever, yeah, i can't access it though, the table:( |
| [04:36:33] | clever: | why not? |
| [04:36:35] | Arfdee: | remote |
| [04:36:45] | Arfdee: | n/m |
| [04:36:51] | clever: | lol |
| [04:37:45] | ** clever goes into mythtv-setup to fix the commflag errors ** | |
| [04:39:33] | clever: | fied |
| [04:39:35] | clever: | i think:P |
| [04:40:29] | Arfdee: | for one user using mythfrontend, they see no text |
| [04:55:25] | Arfdee: | can someone tell me why the fonts don't display correctly for mythfrontend for a certain user? |
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| [05:40:11] | ** cesman wonders how long after the release of the iPhone will we see an email about using it as a frontend... ** | |
| [05:52:45] | Arfdee: | e |
| [05:54:16] | Arfdee: | can someone tell me how to see what /dev/video device ivtv used? |
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| [06:25:39] | Tanthrix: | Bleh, my new Samsung Spinpoint 500GB drive just gave me a CRC error in windows, and chkdsk reported some bad clusters. |
| [06:26:27] | Sid`: | RMA it |
| [06:26:36] | Sid`: | first thing i do with new disks is check the SMART reallocated_sector_count |
| [06:26:41] | Sid`: | if its >0, take the drive back |
| [06:57:47] | Arfdee: | if i am using svideo input on wintv pvr 150mce |
| [06:58:00] | Arfdee: | do i tell mythtv-setup to use tuner1 or svideo 1 for default input? |
| [07:03:21] | hads: | Do you really need an answer? |
| [07:03:45] | samesame: | svideo 1 |
| [07:06:54] | SiD3WiNDR: | lol |
| [07:07:57] | samesame: | if i am using mythtv and i want to use the remote do i need to put the batteries in? |
| [07:08:23] | SiD3WiNDR: | depends what you want to use it for |
| [07:08:43] | SiD3WiNDR: | my mythtv box is making noise, can I turn it off and still use mythtv? |
| [07:09:04] | samesame: | it depends what u turn off |
| [07:19:07] | NHIwerx: | lol |
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| [09:22:08] | directhex|work: | if you want to. what kind of tuner? |
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| [09:23:09] | commander-ape: | I got a hauppauge theater card. Its using v4l. C |
| [09:23:29] | directhex|work: | so it's a framegrabber |
| [09:23:43] | commander-ape: | chipset is a bt 848 |
| [09:23:57] | directhex|work: | so it's a framegrabber |
| [09:24:16] | directhex|work: | manual channel adding should be fine. and i think you can import a xawtv channels.conf for that type of card with no problems |
| [09:24:51] | commander-ape: | how do i import these? i got a xawtv list exported from xawtv |
| [09:25:52] | directhex|work: | dunno. i moved off analog years ago. there should be an option somewhere. or maybe it's in the mythtv documentation |
| [09:34:08] | commander-ape: | do i need something under videosources in mythtv-setup |
| [09:37:15] | directhex|work: | you need something under EVERY section of mythtv-setup |
| [09:37:28] | directhex|work: | they're labelled, in order. nothing will work unless all sections are completed |
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| [10:05:55] | Dagmar: | OKay. |
| [10:06:21] | Dagmar: | With as many LADSPA plugins as there are, ONE of these damn things has got to be able to bring commercial volume under control |
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| [10:13:04] | juski: | or go for the fast lookahead limiter |
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| [10:14:46] | blackest: | I solved my dvb swopping problem |
| [10:15:00] | blackest: | not with udev thou |
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| [10:15:17] | juski: | Dagmar: see also SC1 |
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| [10:16:18] | blackest: | blacklisted one of the drivers for one card then loaded a dvb-T driver in modules followed by the blacklisted driver for the dvb-s |
| [10:16:54] | blackest: | now dvb-t is dvb-0 and dvb-s is dvb-1 consistantly |
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| [10:23:06] | Dibblah: | juski: Congrats on the new job title :) |
| [10:24:03] | directhex|work: | job titles? |
| [10:24:20] | juski: | thanks. got some commits in already – working on my next |
| [10:25:04] | gardengnome: | heh :) |
| [10:25:08] | gardengnome: | just seen them in my gmail |
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| [10:30:30] | gardengnome: | isn't there some kind of auto configuration patch that'll allow a FE to find its BE automatically? |
| [10:34:31] | Dibblah: | Yup. |
| [10:34:31] | directhex|work: | something to probe the subnet? |
| [10:34:44] | Dibblah: | upnp on the frontend |
| [10:35:03] | directhex|work: | mythtv upnp in "actually does something" shocker? |
| [10:35:04] | Dibblah: | Not complete yet, though., |
| [10:35:21] | Dibblah: | There's a patch in trac. |
| [10:36:11] | directhex|work: | whatever next – documentation on upnp? :o |
| [10:36:32] | juski: | watch as all hell breaks loose when users have more than one backend running different versions.. muhahahaha |
| [10:36:59] | juski: | I know though- only people like me do daft stuff like that |
| [10:37:48] | directhex|work: | switch the myth protocol to use XML-based data, so mismatched versions can ignore what they don't understand! |
| [10:38:24] | gardengnome: | directhex|work: the devs say it would be too slow |
| [10:38:59] | directhex|work: | add more megahurtzz! |
| [10:39:02] | juski: | you could put the protocol version into the backend upnp name somehow |
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| [10:43:54] | hpeter: | hi |
| [10:46:30] | hpeter: | which mythtv-config do i have to change, to add tv_grab_ch_... to the available tv-grabbers in mythtv? |
| [10:47:16] | hads: | Wait for 0.21 :) |
| [10:47:33] | hads: | It will support any XMLTV compliant grabber in your PATH |
| [10:47:33] | gardengnome: | hpeter: the source code. you can use mythfilldatabase --file, though |
| [10:47:51] | gardengnome: | hpeter: or just add a symlink ot tv_grab_de or something |
| [10:47:59] | gardengnome: | hpeter: do you speak german? |
| [10:48:24] | hpeter: | don't wanna wait ;) ja auch in deutsch |
| [10:48:48] | hpeter: | gardengnome: wo liegt das tv_grab_de von mythtv? habs ich gefunden |
| [10:48:58] | hpeter: | nicht gefunden |
| [10:49:09] | gardengnome: | hpeter: there is a german channel: #mythtv-de |
| [10:49:28] | hpeter: | gardengnome: k ;) |
| [10:51:11] | hpeter: | hads: is there already a release date for 0.21? |
| [10:51:29] | hads: | No |
| [10:51:57] | hads: | (AFAIK) |
| [10:53:05] | hpeter: | hads: k, thanx anyway |
| [10:59:31] | juski: | if you're really that keen, just watch the dev & commit mailing lists for word about a feature freeze |
| [11:09:31] | ** gardengnome sighs ** | |
| [11:09:47] | gardengnome: | something is wrong with my mythplugins tree. my dpatch stuff won't apply anymore |
| [11:09:51] | ** directhex|work needs a nap ** | |
| [11:10:05] | ** gardengnome needs a clue bat ** | |
| [11:10:38] | ** directhex|work deletes gardengnome's debian/patches ** | |
| [11:12:32] | gardengnome: | thanks |
| [11:19:23] | gardengnome: | yay, all worky again. the source tree was already patched when dpatch thought it was a clean one. svn revert to the rescue |
| [11:19:57] | blackest: | hi all :) |
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| [12:14:51] | juski: | see mythbuntu have gone to public alpha |
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| [14:07:45] | squidly[work]: | hello quick question about frontend vs backend |
| [14:08:06] | juski: | just ask |
| [14:08:29] | squidly[work]: | with the mythbackend on a different box is that the one that has the capture cards? Or do I need one for each front end unit |
| [14:08:50] | juski: | the backend does all the capturing |
| [14:08:59] | squidly[work]: | juski, sorry I was going to paste my question, but I realized it sounded like I was a M$ baby then |
| [14:09:00] | juski: | backend(s) rather |
| [14:09:54] | squidly[work]: | and streams it all to the front end's does that also include recoarded shows and ripped dvd's? and music? |
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| [14:10:09] | Dibblah: | A backend can have as many capture cards as you have sources. |
| [14:10:10] | TSCHAKWerk: | morning fellas |
| [14:10:14] | juski: | the backend only streams live & recorded TV |
| [14:10:29] | Dibblah: | squidly[work]: Sometimes streams. Not always. |
| [14:13:18] | squidly[work]: | I do. But I have not noticed if that's the case |
| [14:13:42] | squidly[work]: | I'm looking to only share out my music and dvd's to a front end with recoarded tv |
| [14:13:56] | squidly[work]: | also getting another pvr500 (the pvr-150 rocks) |
| [14:14:33] | Dibblah: | Simplest method is a NFS share on the backend server, exporting so you can mount the recordings / video / music tree to be the same directories on the FEs / BE. |
| [14:15:20] | squidly[work]: | Dibblah, I dont want to share out ALL of it. I've seen where latancy can mess things up. And as you know these are not small files |
| [14:15:53] | Dagmar: | It's not like sharing "all of it" increases latency |
| [14:16:42] | squidly[work]: | Dagmar, true, but there will be a TON of other things on my net that will rip arp apart my switch (until I can get a GIG switch) |
| [14:17:02] | Dibblah: | You're talking minimal amounts of traffic, really. |
| [14:17:25] | Dibblah: | And it's only accessed when... Well. When it's accessed :) |
| [14:17:42] | squidly[work]: | Dibblah, not with the way I do NFS. I dont use UDP NFS because I dont trust it. |
| [14:18:05] | squidly[work]: | Dibblah, I have used nfs in the past :D |
| [14:18:12] | Dagmar: | Your switch interconnects a few hundred machines? |
| [14:18:12] | Dibblah: | Oh. The token keeps getting lost in your network? |
| [14:18:42] | squidly[work]: | Dagmar, no but I have over loaded the switch with vm's before |
| [14:19:00] | Dibblah: | No, you have not ;) |
| [14:19:01] | Dagmar: | Again, your switch is home to a few hundred machines? |
| [14:19:02] | squidly[work]: | put about 15–20 IP's on one port of a swtich and it will drop udp packets |
| [14:19:18] | Dibblah: | You've *probably* duplicated your MAC address over different VMs. |
| [14:19:21] | Dagmar: | If you do something as stupid as generate hundreds of vm's, a gig switch is not going to help you. |
| [14:19:35] | Dibblah: | Which oddly works, most of the time. |
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| [14:20:10] | squidly[work]: | Dibblah, yea I though of that too. But each machine reported a different MAC |
| [14:21:02] | Dagmar: | squidly[work]: FOr one, your problem there is that you have a cheap-ass switch |
| [14:21:08] | squidly[work]: | and Dagmar not hundreds of vm's. I had about 20 vm's in my lab at one point in time, though I had a swtich that was about $5 |
| [14:21:23] | squidly[work]: | Dagmar, lol I was about to admit that one :D |
| [14:21:33] | Dagmar: | For the other, if the thing only has five ports, why would you expect it to have an arp cache much larger than five machines in size? |
| [14:21:59] | Dibblah: | ... Because you don't get switches with less than 256 entries or so... |
| [14:22:18] | tgm4883: | anyone know if the autodiscovery patch for mythfrontend also works for backends? |
| [14:22:20] | Dibblah: | 8k is most common. |
| [14:22:25] | Dagmar: | 2k arp caches are pretty common on small switches, actually |
| [14:22:29] | Dibblah: | tgm4883: No. |
| [14:22:44] | Dibblah: | What would it autodetect, exactly? |
| [14:23:08] | squidly[work]: | Dagmar, yep. Though managed switches do happen to go much higher with ARP tables. (well good managed switches) |
| [14:23:33] | squidly[work]: | I'm actually kinda happy I gave that switch to my ex. I also think a couple of ports on it were going bad |
| [14:23:46] | tgm4883: | I was too sure on how it worked. Thought maybe it could be made to read from a file |
| [14:24:07] | tgm4883: | but since it works for frontends that great |
| [14:24:09] | Dibblah: | tgm4883: What's your actual question? |
| [14:24:56] | tgm4883: | that was my actual question. I wrote a blueprint for mythbuntu last night, then it came to my attention that the patch existed |
| [14:25:24] | Dibblah: | For distribution? |
| [14:25:43] | tgm4883: | since there isn't usually much adding of secondary backends, and a patch already exists for frontends then my blueprint isn't really needed |
| [14:25:52] | ** Dagmar wonders about the sanity of making it read from a file. ** | |
| [14:26:01] | Dibblah: | Dagmar: Don't ask. |
| [14:26:03] | ** Dagmar looks meaningfully at mysql.txt ** | |
| [14:26:17] | Dibblah: | Dagmar: Actually, yes. |
| [14:26:22] | Dibblah: | And again, don't ask. |
| [14:26:24] | Dagmar: | heheh |
| [14:26:49] | Dagmar: | It's like autodetection, but it looks for the hints in a configuration file. ;) |
| [14:27:09] | opello: | that's my kind of "auto"detection |
| [14:27:41] | tgm4883: | nice |
| [14:27:46] | Dibblah: | It is autodetection, but it can't provide a UI with the default info. that's available at the time it needs to run. |
| [14:27:50] | Dibblah: | So it caches it. |
| [14:28:14] | Dibblah: | If I understand correctly, that is. |
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| [14:47:56] | Dibblah: | juski: I thought you didn't do code! ;) |
| [14:57:58] | juski: | Dibblah: have you seen the patch? I don't! |
| [14:58:45] | Dibblah: | Heh. It's not in the themes dir, so it's code ;) |
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| [15:35:05] | jams: | wow i had forgotten how painful ui.xml is |
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| [15:43:48] | juski: | jams: yup. one of the suggested jobs for the future is to split it into manageable chunks as part of the mythui port. I'm all for that! |
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| [15:44:22] | juski: | I don't care about the initial work – thinking about the ultimate benefit, a watch_recordings.xml will be much nicer |
| [15:44:23] | jams: | juski- yes i suggested it years ago |
| [15:45:12] | juski: | if I could code for toffee I'd help with the porting – then it'd go hand in glove with the theme updates |
| [15:45:20] | jams: | if i remember correctly each window will get it's own xml file |
| [15:45:28] | juski: | 3rd party themes will get broken.. muahahahaha |
| [15:45:47] | juski: | each window? jees |
| [15:46:00] | jams: | yeah it's alot of xml files |
| [15:46:13] | juski: | maybe I wouldn't advocate going that far |
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| [15:46:51] | jams: | but because you can inherit things it shouldn't be alot of work making each new file |
| [15:46:52] | juski: | just split the different areas like watch recordings, tv guide etc |
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| [15:47:04] | juski: | add the ability to do includes :) |
| [15:47:24] | juski: | dunno what that'd do to the xml parser though |
| [15:47:41] | juski: | it's hairy enough as it is |
| [15:47:49] | jams: | don't know..have to wait for chutt to return |
| [15:51:05] | jams: | juski- are you intrested in looking at a nother mythvantage test? |
| [15:51:29] | juski: | jams: I have a lot on right now but I certainly don't mind taking it for a spin |
| [15:51:45] | jams: | no big deal |
| [15:51:54] | jams: | i will let you know when the next iso is up |
| [15:52:18] | juski: | k |
| [15:52:21] | jams: | but if you want to look at the current one, all you need todo is signup then it's available for download |
| [15:54:14] | jams: | ugh..stupid people at work |
| [15:54:18] | jams: | back in a bit |
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| [16:14:25] | thoraxe: | yes if it weren't for work we'd all get more done |
| [16:15:16] | Dibblah: | Damn. Does anyone (apart from Beirdo) log this channel? |
| [16:15:38] | Dibblah: | I'm sure I pasted a command to move recordings into a storage group... |
| [16:25:03] | jams: | Dibblah- got a regex to grep for? |
| [16:25:24] | jams: | for it? |
| [16:26:21] | Dibblah: | It's OK – I just cheated :) |
| [16:26:43] | Zider: | Dibblah: I log everything :D |
| [16:26:43] | Dibblah: | Thanks, though. |
| [16:27:14] | Dibblah: | I used to, until I started using kopete. |
| [16:27:34] | Dibblah: | 1Gb used by your IM proggy is just not right. |
| [16:27:45] | jams: | Dibblah- yes you did paste a mysql/bash command |
| [16:28:14] | jams: | Feb 24th |
| [16:28:16] | Zider: | I have 1,3GB IRC-logs.. and 15MB msn logs ;) |
| [16:28:19] | Dibblah: | Should be possible to do this from the frontend, really. |
| [16:28:49] | jams: | i though there was a userjob for it, might be mistaken though |
| [16:29:22] | Dibblah: | Not to move between storage groups when you're reassigning a recording rule. |
| [16:30:00] | jams: | very possible |
| [16:31:34] | jams: | heh i bet my new kvm will be here before provantage gives me a tracking number |
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| [16:56:09] | Dibblah: | WTH is Sky playing at? |
| [16:56:37] | Dibblah: | UKTV Gold – 1.2Mbytes / second. |
| [16:56:52] | Dibblah: | That's higher than Sky one, ffs... |
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| [17:29:26] | juski: | uh? how'd you know that, Dibblah ? |
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| [17:42:39] | juski: | Dibblah: anyway I know why that channel'd have a higher bitrate. Noisier material – old grainy film etc. probably |
| [17:50:06] | Dibblah: | juski: You can see the bitrate from the encrypted stream. |
| [17:50:33] | AndyCap: | hehe, would be hard to conceal that without vasting bandwidth |
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| [17:52:48] | juski: | bing! neon-wide now has the clock |
| [17:53:14] | juski: | well, not officially.. yet |
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| [18:03:00] | juski: | bah. this sucks,having to use my _own_ webspace |
| [18:03:32] | Zider: | juski: instead of..? |
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| [18:03:53] | juski: | instead of some webspace I er.. borrow the use of for free :) |
| [18:03:58] | Zider: | ;) |
| [18:04:04] | sphery: | juski: Out of curiosity, what did you think of the old visor theme? |
| [18:04:06] | Zider: | if you need space, I have.. :) |
| [18:04:21] | hume: | hi... does anyone know how mythtv would work on an integrated graphics card called: CN700 UniChrome Pro integrated graphics |
| [18:04:37] | hume: | i find no info about it on the myth wiki |
| [18:04:39] | juski: | sphery: it was one of the reasons I started making my own |
| [18:04:45] | sphery: | lol |
| [18:04:51] | sphery: | Just wondering. |
| [18:04:59] | juski: | hume: you want to check out www.openchrome.org |
| [18:05:21] | juski: | mythtv will support any acceleration that works in linux AFAIK |
| [18:05:21] | sphery: | A friend of mine for whom I maintain a myth box only likes that one (which is way out of date). |
| [18:05:42] | juski: | sphery: tell your friend they have no taste :P |
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| [18:06:09] | sphery: | There are/were a lot of people on the list talking about/mourning the loss of/wishing someone would update visor, and I never got it... |
| [18:06:16] | sphery: | nuvola is the other one... |
| [18:06:23] | juski: | sphery: let them whine |
| [18:06:25] | sphery: | Guess some people like to see the sky on their TV... |
| [18:06:32] | juski: | they have the power to bring them back |
| [18:06:49] | hume: | juski, hrm....cn700 seems not to be listed on openchrome, but there seems to be a linux driver on the viaarena site: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=4 . . . SubCatID=158 – any clue about that? |
| [18:07:04] | sphery: | Yeah, I'm not suggesting you bring it back (I never liked it, anyway). I just wondered what your feelings were. |
| [18:07:06] | juski: | hume: if it works, chances are mythtv can use it |
| [18:07:12] | juski: | sphery: very anti |
| [18:07:38] | sphery: | I actually convinced the guy to start working on updating it himself... |
| [18:08:04] | sphery: | He's made a bit of progress (mainly, I think, he has the background in place). Still has a lot of learning to do... :) |
| [18:08:23] | juski: | as much as that?! pfft ;) |
| [18:09:12] | sphery: | Like I said, "A lot of learning to do." |
| [18:10:04] | hume: | juski, i find nothing on the viaarea page about acceleration – got any idea on how to check that? (dont have the machine here, thinking about buying it) |
| [18:10:07] | sphery: | He's never worked on an open source project, either (and is really a Windows guy), so he's got even more of a learning curve ahead of him. |
| [18:10:15] | juski: | anyway we need _less_ 43 aspect themes not more! |
| [18:10:35] | sphery: | Definitely... I'm all for 16:9 themes... |
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| [18:10:58] | directhex: | dump support for !wide and !opengl o/ |
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| [18:11:20] | directhex: | infact, make it so the frontend fails to show on <720p |
| [18:11:30] | juski: | directhex: make the ui fade optional & I'll be right on it |
| [18:11:51] | sphery: | Yeah, and even if he does get it "finished", I don't think he'll be willing to be responsible for maintaining it. So, it will probably be posted and then die another death. |
| [18:12:04] | directhex: | juski, Yet Another Mythtv Setting? |
| [18:12:29] | directhex: | juski, i can make it optional within its current constraints fairly easily. it's just that code makes me feel icky :) |
| [18:12:31] | sphery: | Should be a theme setting... |
| [18:12:49] | directhex: | sphery, yes, it should |
| [18:12:56] | juski: | either way. make it so I can disable it. I don't want it |
| [18:13:05] | sphery: | Allow the theme to choose from any available transitions... |
| [18:13:08] | sphery: | (or none) |
| [18:13:31] | sphery: | I think that was Chutt's original plan, but then work/real life got in the way... :) |
| [18:13:57] | juski: | <induce-epilepsy>on</induce-epilepsy> |
| [18:14:21] | sphery: | lol |
| [18:14:33] | directhex: | juski, i can give you a 1-line patch to make it optional. as long as you don't mind changing the setting in the DB yourself |
| [18:15:13] | juski: | I might even have a go at putting it in the ui code, but that'd mean all themes'd have to be updated – or just default it to 'on' |
| [18:15:27] | sphery: | hmmm. Moving 220GiB of (badly fragmented) data off one disk and to another takes forever... |
| [18:16:25] | juski: | a5benwillis: you got them badges yet? |
| [18:16:34] | juski: | sphery: ouch |
| [18:17:47] | Tanthrix: | I still can't believe my brand new 500GB drive has bad sectors. This is actually the first time in all of my years and 30–40+ drives that I've owned that I've actually seen some bad sectors |
| [18:18:12] | Tanthrix: | (Usually my drives start clicking / etc.. before I notice problems, at which point they get dumped) |
| [18:18:44] | sphery: | But, once I mv/mke2fs/mv (putting small old SDTV at the end of the disk and large HDTV at the beginning), I should never have this problem again. My SDTV will slowly disappear and my new and old HDTV filesizes are of the same order of magnitude, so... |
| [18:18:47] | directhex: | drives die straight away or after years |
| [18:19:05] | Tanthrix: | Better than sometime in between, I suppose |
| [18:20:13] | juski: | well, I hope whoever is packaging my themes up isn't grabbing them direct from the usual places |
| [18:20:25] | sphery: | I had one where one sector became unreadable (i.e. the disk would try for 10+ minutes, then error). Where was that sector? The first one in my root partition (i.e. had the filesystem info in it)... |
| [18:20:43] | Tanthrix: | sphery: Of course it was. Where else could it be? ;) |
| [18:21:06] | sphery: | The bad thing was that after I made a new filesystem, it worked fine, so I couldn't replace it under warranty, and I don't know whether to trust it... |
| [18:21:45] | sphery: | I even tried changing partitions around so that I knew I was overwritting that sector and it reads and writes fine (and without any SMART issues). |
| [18:21:45] | Tanthrix: | They require proof the drive is bad to RMA? I've RMA'd tens of drives at work for various, sometimes not-quite-reproducible errors – never had any problems. |
| [18:22:28] | Tanthrix: | (IE, I hear a few bad clicks, and that's that. Even if if the drive itself reports as fully readable and such.) |
| [18:22:39] | sphery: | I haven't RMA'd one in about 7 years, but last time I did, I had to give them the error code from the manufacturer's disk diagnostic tool. |
| [18:22:47] | Tanthrix: | Ahh, I see. |
| [18:22:56] | sphery: | Perhaps it's a consumer vs. commercial thing... |
| [18:23:06] | Tanthrix: | I was actually going through consumer channels |
| [18:23:12] | sphery: | Hmmm... |
| [18:23:18] | juski: | they always want the diag codes from us |
| [18:23:20] | sphery: | Perhaps I'm just not persistent enough. |
| [18:23:46] | sphery: | Tanthrix must know people... |
| [18:23:47] | Tanthrix: | I believe it was samsung and fujitsu that I have done this with mainly – just used their online page. |
| [18:24:03] | juski: | we've got 'special' diag software too |
| [18:24:45] | Dopy: | usually is you just say its dead and the bios wont detect it.. you can bypass all "special" software |
| [18:24:49] | sphery: | I've RMA'd drives from Maxtor, and WD. Was also impressed that I hadn't needed to RMA one in 7 years (until this little incident). |
| [18:25:08] | Tanthrix: | I think Samsung might have asked to run some software first, but I just ignored it and specified "Bad sectors" on the form |
| [18:25:13] | Dopy: | i like maxtor too.. but everyone i talk to says... they rma maxtor all the time |
| [18:25:40] | sphery: | Now that's an idea I hadn't considered---pretend to be a normal consumer who can't necessarily get beyond the BIOS detection... |
| [18:25:46] | Tanthrix: | In any case, as Dopy says, just lie and say the BIOS won't detect it |
| [18:26:15] | Tanthrix: | They will promptly toss your drive into a garbage can when they recieve it, either way. Then you get a nice refurbished drive in the mail..heh |
| [18:26:33] | sphery: | I did notice that they said something like 80% of drives RMA'd don't need to be, so I guess they probably don't always get a code. |
| [18:26:34] | Dopy: | its easier that way.. who wants to spend hours finding out whats wrong with the drive.. that you already know is bad |
| [18:27:05] | sphery: | Yeah. Part of the reason I didn't press it was because drives are cheap these days... |
| [18:27:09] | Tanthrix: | Off I go, later folks. |
| [18:27:34] | Dopy is now known as DVST8 | |
| [18:28:00] | DVST8: | i have a 500gb and a 250 that is bad... DOA.. just sitting there |
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| [18:30:57] | sphery: | I've got some bad ones, too... 5 between 10 and 20 GB, an 80MB (yes, MB), and an 40MB... The one I'm not sure about is a 160GB. |
| [18:32:34] | DVST8: | im sure a 10 isnt under warrenty anymore..lol |
| [18:32:46] | DVST8: | i just bought 10 750gb seagates |
| [18:32:51] | DVST8: | 5 year warr!!! |
| [18:33:10] | DVST8: | 220 each |
| [18:33:28] | sphery: | Wow. I have 3 of them for my myth system... Total of 3TB. Very nice for HDTV. |
| [18:33:37] | sphery: | 10 was a bit more than I needed. |
| [18:33:45] | DVST8: | im creating a raid 6 array... for myth |
| [18:33:51] | sphery: | (The 3TB obviously includes other drives) |
| [18:33:54] | DVST8: | 6tb |
| [18:34:02] | DVST8: | 6tb 1 partition |
| [18:34:09] | sphery: | Nice. |
| [18:34:11] | DVST8: | i had to use a gtb disk |
| [18:34:25] | sphery: | gtb? |
| [18:34:37] | DVST8: | or gbt |
| [18:34:54] | DVST8: | i dunno.. a normal partition only supports up to 2tb |
| [18:35:09] | sphery: | Oh. I didn't know that. Hasn't been an issue for me. |
| [18:36:01] | DVST8: | its pretty cool |
| [18:36:12] | DVST8: | only thing now is.. libdvdcss doesnt work on all dvds |
| [18:36:34] | gbee: | odd, never seen that |
| [18:36:52] | DVST8: | so ive had to install winxp so i can use anydvd and copy all my 400 some discs |
| [18:37:03] | siXy: | hello everyone :) stupid question, but can you rip dvds on a remote frontend? |
| [18:37:21] | DVST8: | id like to know also... |
| [18:37:58] | gbee: | yes, but you need to nfs mount the remote drive assuming you want them stored on the backend |
| [18:38:35] | gbee: | actually, that's just a guess – I realise I don't really know as I've never used MTD |
| [18:38:54] | DVST8: | why wouldnt that work |
| [18:39:00] | DVST8: | should be easier tho |
| [18:39:17] | siXy: | yeah, thats all done. and mtd is listening on default port, but myth doesnt want to connect to it |
| [18:39:48] | juski: | www.juski.co.uk/movie.png – very tasty IMHO |
| [18:40:46] | siXy: | ooo nce! Project Graham v2? |
| [18:41:01] | juski: | version $whatever |
| [18:41:06] | siXy: | :) |
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| [18:41:37] | juski: | it's pretty much available now from my website as you see in the screenshot – but without the clock & mythmovie watermark |
| [18:41:39] | siXy: | as whoever packages for suse doesnt belive in themes im gonna have to grab seperately. linky? |
| [18:41:49] | juski: | juski.co.uk |
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| [18:41:59] | juski: | give it half an hour to get a more upto date one |
| [18:42:48] | siXy: | kk |
| [18:43:21] | siXy: | juski do you know about using dvd rip on remote forntent? mtd is being unkind to me :S |
| [18:45:05] | juski: | ah bum I forgot to update the preview jpg |
| [18:45:40] | juski: | siXy: I know some packagers don't include mythtranscode in frontend bundles |
| [18:46:59] | siXy: | yeah i have mythtranscode, just the frontend doesnt seem to see mtd running on the backend |
| [18:48:18] | sphery: | siXy: Not that I've ever tried it (because it would be illegal for me to rip a DVD), but whether the frontend is on the same machine as the backend makes no difference for frontend plugins. |
| [18:48:35] | sphery: | As gbee said, if you want to store the recording on a backend drive, you'll need it network mounted. |
| [18:48:57] | sphery: | Chances are you have a configuration issue that's preventing mtd from running properly. |
| [18:51:06] | siXy: | sphery: as for legality these are dvds i own copyright to. mtd is running fine, it works locally on backend |
| [18:51:43] | siXy: | problem is that in forntend config you can only specify a port to connect to mtd on, not an ip/dns name |
| [18:52:46] | juski: | siXy: updated now |
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| [18:53:17] | juski: | hey y'all ProjectGrayhem is now updated. grab it from www.juski.co.uk |
| [18:53:42] | juski: | neon-wide was also updated today |
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| [18:54:01] | siXy: | juski: thanks |
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| [18:54:42] | blackest: | hi i want to add a new frontend with a new user anyone know what needs to be done as regards the user |
| [18:55:08] | juski: | ??? |
| [18:55:23] | siXy: | man useradd |
| [18:55:36] | blackest: | man useradd to what |
| [18:56:01] | siXy: | type in console. |
| [18:56:08] | siXy: | then you will know how to add a user |
| [18:57:21] | sphery: | siXy: mtd /must/ run on the frontend. It's part of MythVideo (for MythDVD), not part of the backend. |
| [18:57:40] | sphery: | And, I wasn't questioning the legality of your using it. Only saying I can't use it. |
| [18:58:19] | siXy: | ah well ti tired that only mtd then complains it cant connect to the backend. do i need to run a mini-backend on the frontend for this? |
| [18:59:09] | TSCHAKWerk: | juski: was project-grayhem-wide also updated? |
| [18:59:27] | juski: | TSCHAKWerk: not yet. that's work in progress |
| [18:59:32] | TSCHAKWerk: | ok |
| [18:59:48] | juski: | I could release it as is – it's not broken as such.. just needs some tweaks n stuff |
| [19:00:04] | juski: | it's going the way of the shiny shiny too |
| [19:00:27] | TSCHAKWerk: | hehehe, bill bailey: cosmic jam |
| [19:00:33] | TSCHAKWerk: | I loved his Kraftwerk spoof |
| [19:00:35] | sphery: | siXy: No backend required on the frontend. I run mtd on my dedicated frontend with no backend running. |
| [19:01:07] | sphery: | siXy: However, you must run mtd using a user whose environment is configured to allow mtd to find mysql.txt so it can find the backend. |
| [19:01:43] | sphery: | You're almost definitely running it such that it uses the defaults and thinks the master backend is on localhost. |
| [19:02:13] | ** TSCHAKWerk blinks and reads juski's nav buttons again, I thought I read "Case Badgers" ** | |
| [19:03:21] | juski: | heh |
| [19:03:26] | sphery: | So, either "export HOME=/home/mythtv" (or whatever) or "ln -s /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt" (or whatever) or put mysql.txt in the appropriate system-wide config directory (i.e. the mythtv share directory) or ... |
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| [19:08:54] | siXy: | sphery: thanks |
| [19:09:17] | sphery: | did it work? |
| [19:09:27] | sphery: | (and your welcome) |
| [19:09:36] | juski: | flippin eck I love this theme now |
| [19:09:37] | sphery: | s/your/you're/ |
| [19:09:56] | sphery: | Is this the new Project Graham (which sounds tasty :) |
| [19:10:14] | juski: | just working on -wide now |
| [19:10:19] | Como|Lappy: | hey guys |
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| [19:10:42] | Como|Lappy: | just playin with my mythbox, trying to schedule a recording for my woman... Its been a few weeks since ive recorded anything |
| [19:11:08] | Como|Lappy: | well i've tried twice to manually add a recording, and it doesnt seem to add it |
| [19:11:15] | sphery: | Wow. For me a day with < 2 recordings is rare... |
| [19:11:17] | Como|Lappy: | could a full storage partition cause that? |
| [19:11:29] | sphery: | manually add a rule? |
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| [19:11:38] | Como|Lappy: | i tried that the second time |
| [19:11:49] | Como|Lappy: | ive got 28 gigs available, though |
| [19:11:50] | juski: | bumcheeks! forgot to update the gallery icons! |
| [19:11:58] | Como|Lappy: | that should be enough for the short recording |
| [19:12:09] | sphery: | What do you mean by, "manually add a recording?" |
| [19:12:22] | sphery: | import one that was recorded elsewhere? |
| [19:12:29] | sphery: | Or create a manual recording rule? |
| [19:12:55] | sphery: | (or create a manual recording rule to allow you to record the output from a VCR that was use to record a show elsewhere :) |
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| [19:16:15] | spiker611: | Hi guys, im looking for a very cheap HD tuner card that will connect to my comcast cable connection – does the kworld atsc-110 do this? |
| [19:19:13] | siXy: | sphery: yes it worked. thanks. was starting mtd as root, and root has no mysql.txt |
| [19:20:18] | siXy: | its happily ripping now |
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| [19:21:04] | Como|Lappy: | Alright, so what are possible/probable causes for the recordings im adding not showing up on the schedualed recordings area |
| [19:22:46] | Como|Lappy: | and where might the mythbackend logs be |
| [19:23:40] | juski: | where logs live can vary but try looking in /var/log |
| [19:24:05] | Como|Lappy: | that was my first guess |
| [19:26:40] | Como|Lappy: | what would be a good way to track them down |
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| [19:27:01] | juski: | locate mythbackend.log ? |
| [19:27:15] | Como|Lappy: | ah, thanks |
| [19:27:18] | Como|Lappy: | filenames help |
| [19:29:41] | Como|Lappy: | hrmph |
| [19:29:46] | Como|Lappy: | looks like it doesnt exist |
| [19:29:48] | Como|Lappy: | ...awesome... |
| [19:30:18] | sphery: | Como|Lappy: how are you starting mythbackend? |
| [19:30:31] | Como|Lappy: | i ran it in a screen session |
| [19:30:33] | sphery: | generally the start script will specify "-l logfilename" |
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| [19:30:52] | sphery: | If you do that it doesn't log unless you a) specify a log file as above or b) redirect output |
| [19:31:06] | Como|Lappy: | ah ha |
| [19:31:07] | sphery: | So, restart it with: "-l /path/to/logfile" |
| [19:31:12] | Como|Lappy: | so i need to track down the session |
| [19:31:34] | sphery: | Yeah... The screen will have the last X lines of output. |
| [19:33:02] | Como|Lappy: | blah, it doesnt wanna work |
| [19:33:06] | Como|Lappy: | probly why it wont schedual |
| [19:33:47] | Como|Lappy: | ok, its angry |
| [19:33:49] | ** Como|Lappy reboots ** | |
| [19:34:10] | ** sphery hopes Como|Lappy set up the start script to log output :) ** | |
| [19:34:24] | Como|Lappy: | i dont think my start script even starts a backend |
| [19:34:27] | Como|Lappy: | the thing isnt done |
| [19:34:33] | Como|Lappy: | i havnt gotten audio working yet |
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| [19:34:50] | Como|Lappy: | ive just been jimmy rigging it to record horse races for her |
| [19:36:11] | blackest: | i'm movin about the same currently got 40 minutes to go |
| [19:36:26] | sphery: | Why so slow? |
| [19:36:46] | sphery: | I still have 130GB to go |
| [19:36:52] | blackest: | maybe coz i'm remoted to desktop using xnest |
| [19:37:00] | Como|Lappy: | im moving a full 250gb hard drive over the network off my laptop right now |
| [19:37:08] | sphery: | I think mine is a serious file fragmentation issue... |
| [19:37:26] | sphery: | I'll find out after it finishes and I re-create the filesystem and move stuff back. |
| [19:37:36] | sphery: | Network would slow it down. |
| [19:37:48] | sphery: | Mine is 2 local drives on different buses, even. |
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| [19:38:21] | blackest: | hmm minimised speeds it up now its 20 minutes |
| [19:40:02] | blackest: | my own fault i didnt notice the records directory got reset to default so now i am bringing them back into 1 |
| [19:40:34] | Como|Lappy: | ah ha |
| [19:40:38] | Como|Lappy: | now both show up after reboot |
| [19:40:41] | Como|Lappy: | awkwaed |
| [19:40:44] | Como|Lappy: | awkward, even |
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| [19:41:30] | blackest: | will be ok i think |
| [19:42:10] | blackest: | is juski still here ? |
| [19:42:55] | juski: | !seen juski |
| [19:42:55] | MythLogBot: | juski is here and has been idle for 15 minutes 54 seconds |
| [19:43:06] | blackest: | i've got a small problem with channel names not fitting in the tvguide |
| [19:43:21] | blackest: | is that a theme issue ? |
| [19:43:41] | juski: | tv channel names are too long |
| [19:44:16] | laga: | no shit? |
| [19:44:18] | juski: | 1. check X is running at 100DPI & if not, fix it |
| [19:44:54] | juski: | 3. edit the channel names so they're not so long |
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| [19:45:03] | gbee: | ! |
| [19:45:26] | juski: | discovery home, health, leisure, art, sex, magic, food +1 |
| [19:45:30] | juski: | Etoolong! |
| [19:45:31] | commander-ape: | hi. how come i cant change channels using mythtv? |
| [19:45:35] | gbee: | edit the callsign, since in most places we use callsigns instead of the channel names |
| [19:45:44] | commander-ape: | i just got this one channel, up and down keys dont do anything |
| [19:46:01] | gbee: | how many channels have you setup? |
| [19:46:08] | juski: | none, prolly |
| [19:46:16] | commander-ape: | well i did the channel scan, he added like 40 |
| [19:46:20] | blackest: | hmm theres 100's of channels can't i just widen the box and show more text |
| [19:46:49] | juski: | blackest: you can if you can live with seeing less program details! |
| [19:47:07] | juski: | hard to strike a balance |
| [19:47:18] | blackest: | sure so i get 3 columns instead of 4 |
| [19:47:25] | juski: | all themers have tried & failed to satisfy everybody |
| [19:47:37] | blackest: | even 2 for now and next |
| [19:48:04] | juski: | if you think I'm gonna spoon feed you a howto to mangle a theme you have anyother thing coming |
| [19:48:07] | juski: | I is busy |
| [19:48:13] | blackest: | more important to know what channel is (thou must admit lots i will never watch) |
| [19:48:24] | juski: | here's a hint though – look in ui.xml |
| [19:48:59] | juski: | the 1st window entry is the main program guide – the one you get in 'manage recordings' |
| [19:49:08] | juski: | the 2nd one is the livetv EPG |
| [19:49:12] | juski: | have fun! |
| [19:49:24] | blackest: | ok thanks |
| [19:51:45] | Anduin: | juski: I'm not crazy like xris, 2ish (GMT-8) is usually my cutoff |
| [19:52:36] | Anduin: | juski: I think your patch should have fixed every place location wasn't one :) |
| [19:52:53] | juski: | eh? |
| [19:53:28] | juski: | can I have that in English please? didn't quite make sense :) |
| [19:53:44] | Anduin: | juski: Just reading the scrollback in #mythtv |
| [19:54:00] | juski: | Anduin> juski: I think your patch should have fixed every place location wasn't one :) |
| [19:55:31] | Anduin: | juski: Oh, that just goes back to me disliking everything being called location, the bit at the end was to let you know I wasn't serious. |
| [19:55:58] | juski: | ah |
| [19:56:06] | commander-ape: | can at least someone tell my why the OSD is flickering so bad |
| [19:56:12] | juski: | now in context, it makes sense :) |
| [19:56:29] | commander-ape: | it somehow gives me headache |
| [19:56:53] | juski: | I might get around to changing it one day. I won't be the last person the offsetting location parameters have confused |
| [19:59:04] | juski: | huh? fonts can't have alpha? eeew |
| [19:59:29] | juski: | I need to hide some text & not have mythfrontend whine about it being commented out |
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| [20:07:18] | juski: | dont tell me I need to do another blinkin patch! |
| [20:07:21] | sphery: | Guess I won't answer commander-ape |
| [20:07:32] | killaz: | Hi... |
| [20:09:02] | blackest: | juski which ui.xml file will it be the one in usr/share/mythtv/... |
| [20:09:12] | killaz: | I'm using tv_grab_nl.py to fill the mythdatabase. After runnning tv_grab_nl I runned the mythfilldatabase. But I get this message: your grabber does not provide channel numbers so you have to... |
| [20:09:29] | killaz: | Am I doing something wrong? |
| [20:11:59] | juski: | blackest: nope. the one in the theme dir |
| [20:12:55] | juski: | killaz: some grabbers don't provide channel numbers :-O |
| [20:13:09] | juski: | so you'll have to put the numbers in all by yourself! :-O |
| [20:13:30] | killaz: | using the --manual |
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| [20:14:13] | juski: | or by using the channel editor in mythtv-setup |
| [20:14:22] | killaz: | strange in none of the walktrough of tv_grab_nl they say something about inserting the channel |
| [20:14:40] | killaz: | juski: where is the channel editor? |
| [20:14:53] | juski: | in the walkthrough they say something about something somewhere? wow that's awesome |
| [20:15:23] | gbee: | killaz: your not doing anything wrong, it just means that we can't automatically insert the channels by using the information in the xmltv data |
| [20:16:05] | gbee: | killaz: digital or analogue? |
| [20:16:10] | killaz: | gbee: analogue |
| [20:17:37] | gbee: | killaz: ah ok, well you'll need to find someone else from the Netherlands who can probably help you setup things correctly |
| [20:18:25] | killaz: | gbee I read some wlaktrough of the Netherlands none say anything about the channels |
| [20:18:41] | killaz: | walkthrough |
| [20:18:48] | gbee: | have you tried scanning for channels? |
| [20:19:48] | gbee: | delete any channels that are already there, run a scan and then edit them to add the xmltvid manually |
| [20:20:17] | killaz: | nope didnt tried that. Once I got the warning about the channel I search and saw anything about adding channel and I decided to came in here |
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| [20:23:25] | WattoDaToydarian: | Hello everyone, I tried to use mytharchive last night and when I checked on it I saw that It failed while trying to use dvdauthor. I see these 2 errors in mythburn.log "ERR: Cannot jump to chapter 6 of title 1, only 5 exist" and "ERR: in VTSM pgc 0, button 6". |
| [20:27:27] | ** juski cranks up "Bizarre Inc – Playing With Knives" ** | |
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| [20:36:26] | WattoDaToydarian: | So I'm guessing no one knows what happened with mytharchive? |
| [20:37:14] | laga: | WattoDaToydarian: your question was not good. at least, you should have provided log files. also, we're not all awake all the time |
| [20:38:19] | fysa: | make sure you didn't run out of space. |
| [20:38:42] | WattoDaToydarian: | I didn't run out of apace |
| [20:38:45] | WattoDaToydarian: | space* |
| [20:40:48] | WattoDaToydarian: | Ok, here are the logs with |tail http://pastebin.ca/548701 |
| [20:41:25] | ubuntuEdgy: | i have a problem when rewinding or fast forwarding recoded tv , it's always very slow or wont rewind at all ? |
| [20:45:56] | ubuntuEdgy: | any one ? |
| [20:48:38] | WattoDaToydarian: | ubuntuEdgy: I used to have that problem until I updated to the latest svn |
| [20:49:02] | ubuntuEdgy: | ok i will try that |
| [20:49:14] | ubuntuEdgy: | cheers watto |
| [20:51:41] | simcop2387: | well later i might find out if my parents tv can do ATSC out over firewire, i think it can but i'm not sure (its got a built in cable card ready tuner and everything) |
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| [20:53:50] | Fony_Vaio: | i have the weirdest problem with my main fe, when most of the picture is black during playback of live tv or recordings, the sound becomes choppy, but only when most of the picture is black. |
| [20:54:34] | Fony_Vaio: | ie. when a program fades to black, or credits start, etc, the sound goes all choppy, but as soon as something comes back onto the screen, the sound resumes normally |
| [21:01:31] | Tanthrix: | Fony_Vaio: You sure you're not just seeing patterns where there are none? (Or maybe just when bitrates increase, such as necessary for scenes with a lot of unique detail) |
| [21:02:11] | Fony_Vaio: | Tanthrix: seriously, it's been going on since i implemented this fe a few days ago |
| [21:02:39] | Tanthrix: | Fony_Vaio: And it never, ever occurs unless you are seeing blackness on the screen? |
| [21:02:53] | Fony_Vaio: | Tanthrix: yup |
| [21:03:11] | Tanthrix: | Fony_Vaio: And you've watched a few hours worth of stuff to get a decent confirmation of this? |
| [21:03:25] | Fony_Vaio: | i only started noticing it badly last night when i sat down to watch war oratorio |
| [21:03:42] | Fony_Vaio: | Tanthrix: yes, since then i've played around a few hours tonight with it |
| [21:04:02] | Fony_Vaio: | even the mrs has noticed it when watching her recordings (ugly betty, etc) |
| [21:04:11] | Tanthrix: | That's damned odd. |
| [21:04:24] | Fony_Vaio: | it didn't do it for the entire show, except a couple of adverts where there was fade to black inbetween |
| [21:04:29] | Fony_Vaio: | and then did it during credits iirc |
| [21:04:36] | Fony_Vaio: | yeah, really weird, eh |
| [21:04:41] | piksi: | can anyone suggest what kind of residue i might have in my recordings folder or database or somewhere, when i'm now getting a "mythtv is already using all available inputs for the channel you selected" ? |
| [21:04:46] | Fony_Vaio: | and damn annoying |
| [21:04:57] | piksi: | this happened after i deleted one recording by hand and removed the entry afterwards from mythtv |
| [21:05:22] | Tanthrix: | I'm still very dubious it has anything to do with fades to black, probably something else going on |
| [21:05:38] | Tanthrix: | piksi: You've tried restarting the backend? |
| [21:05:47] | laga: | Fony_Vaio: is this with xvmc? |
| [21:06:11] | piksi: | Tanthrix: yes, and i've checked the recordings directory rights (they haven't changed, worked fine before...) and checked that there were no extra files there |
| [21:06:12] | Fony_Vaio: | laga: i'm not using xvmc anymore |
| [21:07:17] | piksi: | Tanthrix: and in the console i ran it from it's reporting "TV: Attempting to change from None to None" when i try to open dvb tv channels (and reports that "already selected" error) |
| [21:08:29] | Tanthrix: | piksi: Hrm, not sure what to suggest |
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| [21:10:14] | Fony_Vaio: | gg out, will do more checking later (if i'm not too drunk by that time :D |
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| [21:27:49] | piksi: | with what command line tool can i check the signal strength on my dvb-t card? |
| [21:27:53] | piksi: | or are there such? |
| [21:29:15] | directhex: | tzap |
| [21:29:41] | piksi: | thanks, i'll look into it |
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| [21:56:06] | sphery: | Dibblah: Nice suggestion for #3502. I always thought the lmsensors stuff was bogus on MythWeb since it shows my MBE only (and ignores my SBE and dedicated frontend). |
| [22:04:51] | piksi: | i've loaded dvb_core, mt352, bt878 etc... |
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| [22:13:08] | Tanthrix: | piksi: That's likely your problem then – myth can't see your tuner for whatever reason |
| [22:13:22] | Tanthrix: | piksi: Check dmesg and see what it's telling you |
| [22:14:16] | piksi: | hmm, no errors for the dvb card |
| [22:14:30] | piksi: | and the kernel modules are configured exactly similarly as they were when it was working |
| [22:14:49] | piksi: | propably is |
| [22:14:56] | Tanthrix: | I believe the module's do that |
| [22:16:31] | piksi: | strange, i've loaded them all, dvb_core, mt352, bttv, bt878... |
| [22:17:19] | Dibblah: | piksi: Do you have udev running? |
| [22:17:27] | piksi: | Dibblah: yes, i'm using it |
| [22:17:44] | piksi: | Dibblah: it's loaded right at the start |
| [22:24:25] | juski: | oo interesting: http://lircconfig.commandir.com/ |
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| [22:25:23] | siXy: | nice link juski |
| [22:26:55] | juski: | interesting use's of apostrophe's too (sic) |
| [22:28:25] | robbins876: | How do I go about checking which SATA chipset I have? |
| [22:28:39] | laga: | robbins876: man lspci |
| [22:28:41] | piksi: | lspci |
| [22:28:44] | juski: | lspci |
| [22:28:54] | juski: | read your motherboard manual |
| [22:28:58] | juski: | (!!!!!!!!!) |
| [22:29:08] | robbins876: | i don't have the manual anymore, that's why i asked |
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| [22:29:16] | piksi: | they are often found from the net |
| [22:29:19] | piksi: | as pdf's |
| [22:29:37] | robbins876: | i'm not sure which model it is either, it's 2 years old |
| [22:29:52] | siXy: | the comandir mini looks good for remote extension – as usb doesnt like being extended along 20m of cat5 |
| [22:29:55] | juski: | stop making excuses already |
| [22:30:02] | piksi: | it would be quite trivial to open up the case and look for the model sign........ |
| [22:30:19] | piksi: | even i ain't *that* lazy ;-) |
| [22:30:33] | robbins876: | yeah, it would have! |
| [22:30:40] | piksi: | Dibblah: uh, so.. how might udev affect this issue? (since you mentioned) |
| [22:30:50] | juski: | that's saying something from what hear, piksi ;) |
| [22:32:22] | piksi: | 'from what hear' ..? |
| [22:32:26] | piksi: | i'm not following :-) |
| [22:32:39] | juski: | bah |
| [22:32:46] | juski: | from what I heard :-P |
| [22:32:53] | Dibblah: | udev is what creates the device nodes. |
| [22:34:11] | siXy: | if udev is broken you would have much more serious issues than a non-functioning tv card ;) |
| [22:35:00] | juski: | time to do battle with video-ui.xml again. :-| |
| [22:35:32] | Dibblah: | siXy: Probably not. |
| [22:36:03] | Dibblah: | All of the required stuff is pre-created before udev gets on the scene. |
| [22:36:58] | juski: | there's that blasted grocer's apostrophe again |
| [22:37:25] | Dibblah: | Watch out – Here Comes An "S"! |
| [22:37:50] | siXy: | juski have you read "Eats Shoots And Leaves" by any chance? :) |
| [22:38:45] | juski: | probably |
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| [22:39:33] | juski: | woo I can listen to Alan Robson's Nightowls online now. metro radio never used to stream :) |
| [22:41:16] | pagan0ne: | other than not having any FTA worth talking about, any suggestions? |
| [22:41:44] | juski: | check the wiki at linuxtv.org |
| [22:42:23] | pagan0ne: | juski i found a wintv card that seemed to do the job, i was just wondering if anyone has had expirence with it |
| [22:42:49] | juski: | and here is the logical channel to pester people about a question not directly related to mythtv. yay |
| [22:44:27] | pagan0ne: | juski: well actually get it right its mythtv-users, i just got reamed over that, illogival if you ask me, as it more or less pertains to kubuntu's hardware compatability with said card, not so much as the software side of things |
| [22:45:27] | juski: | so wtf does that have to do with mythtv? |
| [22:45:51] | pagan0ne: | juski: oops i was thinking i was in another channel |
| [22:46:00] | pagan0ne: | juski: sorry |
| [22:46:15] | juski: | this channel is for user support for mythtv. people who use mythtv – mythtv users.. |
| [22:46:55] | juski: | anyway if you ever stop by & check the channel logs you'll see how often satellite tuner questions fall on deaf ears |
| [22:46:55] | pagan0ne: | juski: i know, the whole #mythtv being for dev's kinda threw me off though, i would have thought #mythtv-dev would be the channel for that |
| [22:47:22] | directhex: | how about #mythtv for development and ##mythtv for users? fits in with freenode guidelines! |
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| [22:48:27] | juski: | it's dead easy to wander into #mythtv and if you *pay* *attention* you needn't end up embarrassed :) |
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| [22:49:38] | Anduin: | directhex: Yes, guidelines clearly created to prevent confusion |
| [22:49:55] | pagan0ne: | juski: i was paying attention thats why i didnt ask them any questions, except about the channel name, but as a support community, it needs to be simple for the end user, not aware of the guidelines... |
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| [22:50:22] | juski: | my piss is really boiling now |
| [22:50:35] | killaz: | Hi where can I find more info about configuring my hauppauge P150? |
| [22:51:37] | pagan0ne: | that im suggesting orginizing things in such a way asto prevent confusion in the first place, and make it easier on the user? |
| [22:51:40] | killaz: | cause now I can only see black screen and some gren/red dots (line noise) |
| [22:51:42] | juski: | that's why you get the PM & so on |
| [22:51:51] | juski: | just BECAUSE! |
| [22:52:02] | juski: | it's the operator's perogative. be happy |
| [22:52:15] | killaz: | when I run mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [22:52:27] | pagan0ne: | im not unhappy about it, i just found it counter-intuitive for the adverage user |
| [22:52:34] | juski: | why is ubuntu's default theme colour a shitty brown colour? ;) |
| [22:52:59] | pagan0ne: | kubuntu's isnt, thats why more people use it |
| [22:53:38] | directhex: | more people don't use it |
| [22:53:40] | juski: | anyway pagan0ne you asked, you got some kind of answer.. that's enough from me I think |
| [22:54:18] | pagan0ne: | ill drop it because im starting to feel more like a troll i so hate |
| [22:55:41] | juski: | jees. there's a woman on the phonein I'm listening to.. trying to clear up a mixup a bed company made and it's making her feel suicidal. Jees. I hope she never tries to install mythtv |
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| [23:01:01] | blackest: | um i see now why you wanted me to write something on dvb-s juski |
| [23:01:40] | blackest: | i've got it all working here apart from a couple of niggles |
| [23:01:58] | blackest: | finding a channel is hard |
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| [23:05:26] | blackest: | is favourites per frontend or universal? |
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| [23:11:49] | eric256: | hello? |
| [23:12:02] | juski: | goodbye? |
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| [23:13:36] | eric256: | hey...any good mythtv sites besides mythtv.org? |
| [23:13:56] | juski: | besides wiki.mythtv.org |
| [23:14:05] | juski: | nope! |
| [23:14:20] | eric256: | just got my myth box up an running and there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of info. yea it and the wiki are all. hmmm .okay then |
| [23:14:52] | jarle: | eric256: mythtalk maybe? |
| [23:14:58] | ** juski laughs ** | |
| [23:15:15] | juski: | try the new forum at mythtvforum.com. you can be their 27th member |
| [23:16:02] | eric256: | must register to even view?...thats a turn off big time |
| [23:16:09] | juski: | heheh |
| [23:16:16] | juski: | mythtvtalk.com is ok |
| [23:16:21] | directhex: | eric256, no kidding. almost as if people don't want to sign up for an unknown forum... |
| [23:16:27] | juski: | there are also the mailing lists |
| [23:16:49] | juski: | I'd personally go for the mailing lists, or if you have some kind of clue, ask here! |
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| [23:16:54] | eric256: | yea mailing lists where good for trouble shooting...but to just explore features ideas etc they arn't much help...checking out mythtalk now |
| [23:17:17] | juski: | look in the wiki – there's a very good manual that covers a lot of features |
| [23:17:49] | juski: | and what that doesn't cover – so long as you stay out of the setup menus you can screw anything just by playing around. sit down & explore! |
| [23:18:04] | juski: | *you can't screw* |
| [23:18:07] | simcop2387: | . |
| [23:18:24] | juski: | dyndns or no-ip.org etc etc etc |
| [23:18:28] | eric256: | hehe i've already tried most options in the setup menu (and completetly reinstalled a few times) using mythdora right now |
| [23:19:02] | juski: | if you'd have problems getting a connection onto port 80 I can't see how anything else would magically work |
| [23:19:23] | juski: | stick with mythweb.. it's ace! |
| [23:19:26] | eric256: | juski yea..i was thinking it probably wouldn't be too hard to make a web site that mythboxs could connect to and their users could connect to...say have the mythbox ping the website at set intervals to see if the user has signed in and scheduled anything...might be bit stressfull on a server though..dunno |
| [23:19:48] | ** eric256 wonders what juski is talking about. lol ** | |
| [23:20:08] | juski: | wtf? |
| [23:20:34] | juski: | I mean if you're worried about getting a solid connection to a box for mythweb to work, how the hell would anything else work? |
| [23:20:50] | eric256: | i'm not worried about a solid connection |
| [23:20:57] | juski: | check out jusftp.no-ip.org right now |
| [23:21:07] | eric256: | lmao i know what it is and how to use it |
| [23:21:09] | juski: | mythweb is what you want. besides there's nothing else |
| [23:21:24] | eric256: | there's nothing else is just a reason to build something ;) |
| [23:21:42] | juski: | and fwiw I have had this box unprotected for weeks & it's still up |
| [23:21:57] | eric256: | i don't want to setup a static route into my mythbox though...annoying and a security risk of sorts |
| [23:22:02] | juski: | my production server is protected with standard measures & it's been fine |
| [23:22:09] | juski: | eric256: not really |
| [23:22:14] | juski: | you're not NORAD |
| [23:22:46] | directhex: | can i be WOPR? |
| [23:23:20] | juski: | but nothing |
| [23:23:42] | juski: | you could always run mythweb over an ssh tunnel |
| [23:23:47] | juski: | pretty tight |
| [23:24:05] | eric256: | but thats not realy my drive to look for something different. mostly i've been looking for a project and simplifying remote programming for a mythbox would open it up to more users, more users = more developers = better product |
| [23:24:31] | juski: | what's all this shite about 'product' trolling tonight? mythtv is not a product. it's a project |
| [23:24:34] | eric256: | or too many users and then mythbox starts trying to sell it ;) |
| [23:24:52] | eric256: | ?? /me didn't read anything from earlier |
| [23:25:10] | juski: | there isn't anything simpler than logging into a website. tivoweb is the same thing |
| [23:25:11] | eric256: | projects are products just not proitable ones lol |
| [23:25:30] | eric256: | yes but setting up the website isn't simple on mythbox, not for secure remote access |
| [23:25:37] | juski: | duh |
| [23:25:45] | juski: | mythtv isn't ready for Joe Schmoe |
| [23:25:56] | juski: | not by a long shot |
| [23:25:59] | eric256: | right isn't ready....so then the idea is to make sure it never is? |
| [23:26:05] | juski: | yep |
| [23:26:07] | eric256: | lmao |
| [23:26:18] | juski: | come on ffs it requires a computer! |
| [23:26:32] | eric256: | with my current hardware and mythdora anyone who could install windows could have a mythbox so its pretty close |
| [23:26:38] | eric256: | lol true |
| [23:26:53] | eric256: | i manage tech support for a 100+ company..people are stupid, computers are stupider |
| [23:26:57] | juski: | there are people in the world who can't figure out how to tune TVs into signals |
| [23:27:05] | juski: | how will they deal with a computer? |
| [23:28:31] | juski: | as for making it easier to make a secure mythweb – that's partially up to the distro maker. make a tickbox, enter the password.. bing bing bing! they have the power to do it now |
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| [23:29:13] | juski: | go ask them why they haven't |
| [23:29:21] | eric256: | there is more than one way to solve the problem...and making people sign up for a ddns is just one and not my favorite. |
| [23:29:36] | juski: | how many other ways would you do it? |
| [23:30:02] | juski: | you could have a box ping a server out there somewhere but that isn't a million miles from dyndns |
| [23:30:12] | eric256: | build a myth plugin that polls a remote server, sending it its current recording schedule and checking to see if there are any new schedulign rules... |
| [23:30:16] | blackest: | remember your ip address maybe |
| [23:30:18] | eric256: | user logs into same site to manage it. |
| [23:30:30] | juski: | and a centralised system would raise concerns about privacy! |
| [23:30:43] | juski: | for _sure_ |
| [23:30:50] | eric256: | your on irc and use email, you probably already have privacy concerns |
| [23:31:03] | eric256: | plus i'm using a distro that may already phone home with my info, i'd never know |
| [23:31:34] | juski: | that's based on trust |
| [23:31:36] | eric256: | and if your box is unprotected on the internet you should have bigger privacy concerns ;) |
| [23:31:36] | blackest: | why would you want a centralised system, when my wants and needs are different from yours |
| [23:31:52] | eric256: | plugins are optional, use your own wants and needs |
| [23:32:01] | juski: | I've invited people to have a go on it.. it's still there |
| [23:32:17] | juski: | my production box is relatively safe |
| [23:32:36] | eric256: | but a centralized system could make suggestions based on similar users choices, allow you and friends to form cooperatives for finding good shows and scheduling them and it would be easier for joe smoe |
| [23:32:45] | juski: | oh god no! |
| [23:32:49] | juski: | not the suggestions thing again |
| [23:32:52] | eric256: | lol |
| [23:32:53] | juski: | have you heard of spam? |
| [23:32:58] | blackest: | its not that hard to make your box fairly secure my backend is accessable from the web if you know i have mythweb and you have a username and password |
| [23:33:04] | eric256: | you act like i want to make it part of the core and force everyone to use it |
| [23:33:14] | juski: | it's come up countless times, each one it got shot down in flames |
| [23:33:20] | eric256: | i don't want or use mythgame or whatever, so i don't use it, not a big deal |
| [23:33:51] | juski: | the developers don't want it, so it's not gonna happen. ever |
| [23:33:58] | eric256: | oh dear, no one liked it in the past, my idea must suck...realy is that all youve got? |
| [23:34:08] | eric256: | the developers? so no plugins are developed outside the developers? |
| [23:34:12] | ** directhex crafts mythporn, an automagical system for browsing internet porno ** | |
| [23:34:12] | juski: | you could send a patch in, and it likely won't be accepted |
| [23:34:15] | eric256: | thats a crappy open source project |
| [23:34:39] | eric256: | patch? for what. why would a seperate plugin need a patch? this thing touts extendability |
| [23:34:44] | juski: | it has to fit in with the project. somebody has to commit your code – and for that they have to like it |
| [23:34:50] | eric256: | extensibility? arg i dunno what that word is |
| [23:35:05] | eric256: | i think i'm confused or you are. if its a plugin why would it have to be in the same source code? |
| [23:35:06] | directhex: | eric256, there are a few unofficial plugins of moderate success. not everything gets accepted upstream, for assorted reasons |
| [23:35:15] | juski: | I don't think it's a bad idea per se to have a suggestions system |
| [23:35:22] | juski: | eric256: plugins can be 3rd party |
| [23:35:29] | ** eric256 isn't want to be daunted by past failure ** | |
| [23:35:39] | eric256: | especialy not if its others failures lol |
| [23:36:07] | juski: | I just think that any such suggestion system would have to have strong safeguards in place to prevent abuse both ways |
| [23:36:11] | eric256: | ironicaly my idea is to reduce peoples effort for other things..odd. lol |
| [23:36:41] | juski: | as for 3rd party plugins which still work with current mythtv.. erm.. there's mythstream which can be cajoled into working |
| [23:36:55] | juski: | and there's er.... and er... oh |
| [23:37:19] | eric256: | lol |
| [23:37:19] | directhex: | juski, doesn't one of the torrent ones still work? |
| [23:37:37] | juski: | eric256: I couldn't give a damn about your ideas to be frank |
| [23:37:41] | eric256: | i'd guess that most of the plugins started as seperate projects, thats just a guess though |
| [23:37:50] | eric256: | no one asked you to give a damn |
| [23:37:53] | juski: | and this isn't a forum for user suggestions either |
| [23:38:15] | eric256: | lol. you asked, i answered, now you want to reprimand me.it isn't a suggestion even |
| [23:38:54] | eric256: | btw are both juski's the same person? tyour color keeps changing for no apparent reason |
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| [23:39:06] | juski: | I'm bipolar |
| [23:39:12] | juski: | or something. obviously |
| [23:40:13] | blackest: | eric256 why do people use mythtv ? could it be because they want to choose what to watch when they want to watch it and avoid the cr.. |
| [23:40:39] | tha_toadman: | question...i'm installing mtythtv and running 'setup' on ubuntu feisty...it's asking to run 'mythfilldatabase' but I haven't configured it (for zap2it) ...any ideas where i might be able to do that? |
| [23:41:08] | juski: | tha_toadman: maybe try reading the ubuntu community mythtv documentation |
| [23:41:20] | juski: | google will help you find it :) |
| [23:41:22] | eric256: | man..all i was talking about was making a way to program mythtv from the web without running a webserver and configuring routers etc. lol. you'd think i'd proposed porting it to windows or something |
| [23:41:24] | tha_toadman: | did that |
| [23:41:36] | blackest: | are you using the eit guide data or someother source ? |
| [23:41:43] | tha_toadman: | the guide sucks, juski..that's why i'm asking here |
| [23:41:44] | directhex: | eric256, there are patches in the main tree for that |
| [23:42:03] | tha_toadman: | i'm just trying to run 'mythtv-setup' ..forwarded thru X |
| [23:42:05] | juski: | eric256: but a webserver is the simplest way to do it, and the simplest way to access it even for Joe Schmuk |
| [23:42:06] | eric256: | directhex that do what? |
| [23:42:20] | directhex: | eric256, compile on windows. doesn't work much right now though |
| [23:42:35] | eric256: | juski...actualy...no. how many joe schmuks know where their router is? let alone how to configure it for a DMZ? |
| [23:42:40] | eric256: | ohhh /me got lost |
| [23:42:41] | eric256: | lol |
| [23:42:58] | juski: | eric256: how many people know how to plug a computer into a wall without blowing it up? |
| [23:43:11] | eric256: | way more than know where their router is. |
| [23:43:14] | killaz: | hi can I ask something about hauppauge installation with ivtv in here? |
| [23:43:28] | Anduin: | killaz: be the very first to do so |
| [23:43:36] | ** eric256 has sadly only managed to fry one pc....nice smoke from that though, nothing like buring plastic to make you hungry ** | |
| [23:43:40] | juski: | why can't we just NOT CARE about those people? they'll bring all kinds of new problems with their idiocy |
| [23:44:02] | killaz: | Oo |
| [23:45:03] | juski: | I'd love to be this altruist who believes in the power of the user & how they'll all be so damn happy they'll stay around & give back to the project – but that's not human nature |
| [23:45:23] | killaz: | ok well I'm trying to gra the tv-input using /dev/video0. But the /dev/video0 doesnt exist |
| [23:45:29] | killaz: | grab* |
| [23:45:41] | Anduin: | killaz: look at the ivtv init section in dmesg |
| [23:45:59] | juski: | hey this ranting is stopping me doing very important work |
| [23:46:01] | juski: | ! |
| [23:47:35] | blackest: | killaz does xawtv or kaffeine work with your card ? |
| [23:48:02] | directhex: | erm... dvb != ivtv |
| [23:48:03] | juski: | tha_toadman: do you KNOW how RUDE it is to MSG people you don't know without asking first?! |
| [23:48:06] | eric256: | lol...i'll come back and riley up more later juski...its been fun ;) |
| [23:48:07] | juski: | DO YOU?! |
| [23:48:15] | juski: | fucking retard |
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| [23:48:34] | directhex: | i must go and prepare sammiches |
| [23:49:04] | tha_toadman: | read it and see |
| [23:49:26] | killaz: | ok I found it. But now I see only noise. I'm using mplayer. I heard that I have to setup the channel using ivtv-setup before I can watch tv with mplayer? I want to test if I can watch a channel. |
| [23:49:52] | killaz: | wel actually I'm configuring this so I can use mythtv |
| [23:50:22] | Anduin: | killaz: You need something to tune, like ivtv-tune (or whatever it is called) |
| [23:51:02] | tha_toadman: | juski: trying to prove a point |
| [23:51:13] | juski: | I'm gonna have to read up on my irssi config some more to block msgs from people I don't know but let others through |
| [23:51:23] | blackest: | killaz mythtv is relatively hard it is easiest to use a simple program to see if you can watch tv before going on to mythtv |
| [23:51:50] | killaz: | blackest: exactly. |
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| [23:52:54] | fadumpt_: | hey |
| [23:53:12] | fadumpt_: | any idea why program guide information won't show up in the program guide? |
| [23:53:19] | fadumpt_: | s/hey/hi |
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| [23:55:55] | Anduin: | fadumpt_: It is really there? (in the DB)? |
| [23:56:45] | fadumpt_: | that I don't know |
| [23:56:58] | fadumpt_: | it looks like it's downloading something with mythtvfilldatabase |
| [23:57:10] | blackest: | killaz what card is it ? |
| [23:57:13] | fadumpt_: | but I don't know where to look to see what it's donwloaded |
| [23:57:17] | Anduin: | fadumpt_: and that lineup is associated with an input on a card? |
| [23:57:27] | fadumpt_: | yes |
| [23:57:35] | killaz: | blackest: PVR-150 |
| [23:57:47] | killaz: | I'm trying the ivtv-tune now... |
| [23:57:56] | Anduin: | fadumpt_: You can look in the DB, or look at the mythfilldatabase output |
| [23:58:01] | killaz: | blackest: I still see only noise |
| [23:58:19] | killaz: | ivtv-tune -f0.479 -d/dev/video0 |
| [23:59:59] | blackest: | have you downloaded any firmware for the card ? |
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