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[00:00:04] | cesman: | setting up a remote frontend isn't that difficult |
[00:00:13] | cesman: | mysql? |
[00:00:33] | ubuntuEdgy: | i used to have a combined front end backend , that makes it hard |
[00:00:43] | kslater: | not really |
[00:00:52] | ubuntuEdgy: | cesman: i cqan connect to mysql |
[00:00:55] | kslater: | it may have masked problems you had with your setup |
[00:01:20] | TSCHAK: | wow... mytharchive is AWESOME |
[00:01:21] | kslater: | the remote frontend connects to mysql to find the master backend ip address, I think. |
[00:01:21] | TSCHAK: | :-D |
[00:01:45] | ubuntuEdgy: | kslater:you are right its the back end |
[00:01:47] | pac1: | ubuntuEdgy, let's pick up where we left off. |
[00:02:05] | ** cesman wonders if next release will be goofy goat... ** | |
[00:02:07] | ubuntuEdgy: | ok lets do it bro |
[00:02:25] | ubuntuEdgy: | yeh |
[00:02:38] | pac1: | is it running? |
[00:03:00] | ubuntuEdgy: | yes its running @media-server:~$ ps -p `cat /var/run/mythtv/mythbackend.pid` |
[00:03:00] | ubuntuEdgy: | PID TTY TIME CMD |
[00:03:00] | ubuntuEdgy: | 10776 ? 00:08:08 mythbackend |
[00:03:08] | pac1: | great. |
[00:03:14] | ubuntuEdgy: | :) |
[00:03:17] | pac1: | its running. now you have to be able to connect to it. |
[00:03:22] | ubuntuEdgy: | ok |
[00:03:31] | pac1: | hang on 1 min. |
[00:03:47] | ubuntuEdgy: | ok |
[00:04:33] | pac1: | type man services and read the file to learn about services that run on your machine. mythbackend is a service. |
[00:05:23] | ubuntuEdgy: | pac1: there is one thing i have not told you |
[00:05:40] | pac1: | tell all! |
[00:06:02] | ubuntuEdgy: | i used to have a back end front end combination |
[00:06:17] | pac1: | and it worked fine right? |
[00:06:19] | ubuntuEdgy: | now i have moved the backend to nother machine |
[00:06:30] | ubuntuEdgy: | yeh it did |
[00:06:47] | pac1: | If you got that far you're doing great. |
[00:06:53] | ubuntuEdgy: | but i have also not removed the backend fron the new front end |
[00:06:58] | ubuntuEdgy: | make sense ? |
[00:07:03] | pac1: | I'm running on a single box at the moment myself. |
[00:07:09] | ubuntuEdgy: | ahhhh |
[00:07:13] | pac1: | yes. If you run the frontend there it will still work. |
[00:07:19] | ubuntuEdgy: | it runs good huh? |
[00:07:31] | pac1: | as good as can be expected.... |
[00:07:48] | pac1: | pentium III 667 with 768mb mem |
[00:07:50] | grantt: | Hey guys. Does anyone have experience with running an Xbox as a frontend? I'm strugging with mine right now. |
[00:07:54] | pac1: | pvr 250 |
[00:08:02] | pac1: | er... 150. |
[00:08:04] | ubuntuEdgy: | but i still have the backend on the front end even thou i have got a new box for the backend |
[00:08:14] | ubuntuEdgy: | also i have stoped it thou |
[00:08:36] | ubuntuEdgy: | make sence |
[00:08:48] | ubuntuEdgy: | sense? |
[00:08:49] | pac1: | oh. I see. so the backend is an entirely new box. and you're using the old frontend backend as the frontend. |
[00:09:01] | ubuntuEdgy: | yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
[00:09:08] | ubuntuEdgy: | lol |
[00:09:45] | ubuntuEdgy: | so do i have to remove the old backedn , even thou i have stoped it ? |
[00:10:13] | ubuntuEdgy: | exactly |
[00:10:21] | ubuntuEdgy: | i have not set it up correctly |
[00:10:33] | pac1: | Its been a while, but I think there's something you have to set in one of the /etc files to allow the connections to occur. |
[00:10:33] | ubuntuEdgy: | i only configured mythv cards |
[00:11:08] | ubuntuEdgy: | i also remeber to uncoment this bind-address= 127.0.0.1 |
[00:11:46] | ubuntuEdgy: | "Look for the line that reads: bind-address= 127.0.0.1 and comment out that line by placing a # at the beginning. " |
[00:12:04] | ubuntuEdgy: | make sense ? |
[00:13:28] | pac1: | ah the old one. you need to change that to connect to the new one. |
[00:14:02] | pac1: | where are you configuring this? |
[00:14:15] | ubuntuEdgy: | but i will give it another try |
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[00:14:41] | pac1: | have you tried stopping the frontend and restarting it after changing the address? |
[00:14:57] | pac1: | at one point your pastebin entry indicated you had it pointed right. |
[00:15:20] | ubuntuEdgy: | pac1:front end Setup->General->Host name |
[00:15:44] | ubuntuEdgy: | i have not done that i will do it now ,good idea |
[00:16:35] | dhr: | How can I record a program from a source without a channel? I have a PVR150-like tuner with sgnal coming in the s-video input. No channel selection method. But I cannot get myth to accept a recording request for it. Any suggestions? |
[00:17:10] | pac1: | dhr. haven't tried that yet. No idea at this point. |
[00:17:39] | pac1: | Anyone know if connections to a backend server need to be allowed somewhere? |
[00:18:52] | ubuntuEdgy: | still cannot connect to the master backend server |
[00:19:15] | ubuntuEdgy: | the problem defore is with the backend |
[00:20:08] | dhr: | ubuntuEdgy: you can check if the backend is listening using the netstat command. Read the manpage. |
[00:21:11] | pac1: | dhr, doesn't he need an entry in /etc/services? or is that just for ports under 1024? |
[00:21:53] | dhr: | /etc/services is not needed. |
[00:22:08] | pac1: | ok thought that was what was needed. |
[00:22:23] | pac1: | what's happening to his connection to the server then? |
[00:23:02] | dhr: | If he were to refer to a port number by name, /etc/services would be used to do the mapping. But he isn't. |
[00:24:03] | dhr: | networking has many cooks. I can imagine firewall or tcpwrappers getting in the way. But most likely the backend isn't actually listening. use netstat to find out. |
[00:24:51] | pac1: | how about /etc/hosts.allow? |
[00:24:52] | dhr: | for example, "netstat --inet" (on the server) |
[00:25:04] | ubuntuEdgy: | netstat dose not make sence to me it show me were thing are connected what should i be looking for ? |
[00:25:20] | ubuntuEdgy: | ohh on the server ok |
[00:27:04] | dhr: | /etc/hosts.allow is tcpwrappers |
[00:27:46] | ubuntuEdgy: | any one want to ssh and fix my blues ? |
[00:28:02] | pac1: | nah, you shouldn't let strangers in.... |
[00:28:21] | ubuntuEdgy: | i feel like i known you all my life |
[00:28:28] | ubuntuEdgy: | get in will you |
[00:28:33] | pac1: | new best friend.... |
[00:28:40] | ubuntuEdgy: | exactly |
[00:29:31] | ubuntuEdgy: | what you say .......two eyes are better the one |
[00:29:33] | pac1: | I'm a white hat, but I wouldn't depend on such a statement myself. Neither should you. |
[00:29:52] | ubuntuEdgy: | lmaoo |
[00:29:57] | ubuntuEdgy: | im desprate |
[00:30:03] | pac1: | (pac1 is paranoid... thinks people on the net are out to get him...) |
[00:30:23] | ubuntuEdgy: | lol i been at this all day |
[00:31:07] | dhr: | I never remember all the flags of netstat. Best bet, as superuser, on server: netstat --listening --inet --program |
[00:31:11] | pac1: | movie is starting. bbl. keep reading ubuntuEdgy, you'll get it. Or someone will come by who knows the answer.. |
[00:31:36] | pac1: | tcp 0 0 *:6545 *:* LISTEN 13152/mythlcdserver |
[00:32:43] | dhr: | tcp 0 0 *:6543 *:* LISTEN 2688/mythbackend |
[00:32:50] | ubuntuEdgy: | tcp 0 0 localhost:2208 *:* LISTEN 3 |
[00:32:59] | dhr: | tcp 0 0 *:6544 *:* LISTEN 2688/mythbackend |
[00:33:28] | ubuntuEdgy: | 3394/mythbackend |
[00:33:28] | ubuntuEdgy: | tcp 0 0 *:6544 *:* LISTEN 13394/mythbackend |
[00:33:28] | ubuntuEdgy: | tcp 0 0 localhost:ipp *:* LISTEN 4 |
[00:34:08] | ubuntuEdgy: | listening ? |
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[00:34:37] | dhr: | if the local address is "localhost", it won't do you any good. |
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[00:34:57] | ubuntuEdgy: | what do i need to do |
[00:36:29] | dhr: | reconfigure your server. I would guess that mythtv-setup ON THE SERVER will let you fix this. No promise: I hven't done this often and my memory is not great. |
[00:37:12] | ubuntuEdgy: | also i have not gave the server any ip addresses is this normal ? |
[00:37:31] | ubuntuEdgy: | i have left it on default |
[00:38:31] | dhr: | your DHCP server probably gave it the IP address to your ethernet interface. But when you configured your mythbackend, you probably had to tell it what address to answer as. |
[00:39:03] | dhr: | BTW, you need to make sure that your DHCP server always gives the same address out to your machine. |
[00:39:37] | ubuntuEdgy: | yeh im going to do that soon |
[00:39:45] | ubuntuEdgy: | the router gives the ips |
[00:39:47] | achew22: | why not just set a static IP? |
[00:39:49] | dhr: | OR statically assign an address yourself, one that your DHCP server won't give someone else. |
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[00:40:18] | ubuntuEdgy: | ok |
[00:42:28] | ubuntuEdgy: | it should be |
[00:42:58] | ubuntuEdgy: | making sense ? |
[00:43:06] | dhr: | which is it? Probably not both. They are contradictory. |
[00:43:39] | dhr: | do you have more than one frontend running at once??? |
[00:44:50] | ubuntuEdgy: | no just one |
[00:45:10] | ubuntuEdgy: | mabe i should go to the back end see what we can do there ? |
[00:48:32] | dhr: | figure out why your frontend produces contradictory diagnostics. |
[00:51:30] | GreyFoxx: | ubuntuEdgy: ok. do what I say, exactly, in the same order |
[00:51:50] | ubuntuEdgy: | can i show you some thing before i do |
[00:52:03] | ubuntuEdgy: | http://pastebin.ca/409857 |
[00:52:06] | GreyFoxx: | shutdown mythbackend on your backend, shutdown mythfrontend on your backend, shutdown mythfrontend on your new frontend, if it's running shutdown mythbackend on your new frontend |
[00:52:24] | ubuntuEdgy: | this is when i was trying to connect toi the beckend |
[00:52:40] | GreyFoxx: | on your new frontend edit your mysql.txt and point it to the machine running your backends mysql database, most likely the same machine as your regular backend |
[00:53:20] | GreyFoxx: | on the backend, go into mysql and grant permission to the other machine |
[00:53:43] | GreyFoxx: | grant all on mythconverg.* to 'mythtv'@'OTHERIPHERE' identified by 'YOURMYTHPASSWORDHERE'; |
[00:53:50] | GreyFoxx: | flush privileges; |
[00:54:13] | hads: | Cool, ivtv 0.10 made its way into Feisty |
[00:54:31] | GreyFoxx: | then restart mythbackend on your backend |
[00:54:31] | ubuntuEdgy: | :-/kind of follow |
[00:54:36] | Kritter: | anyone framilar with doing sata manual install with knoppmyth? |
[00:54:44] | GreyFoxx: | go to the frontend |
[00:55:13] | GreyFoxx: | then run mythfrontend |
[00:55:47] | GreyFoxx: | and if you have mysqld running on your new frontend , turn it off and leave it off |
[00:56:04] | ubuntuEdgy: | mines was set to 127.0.01 |
[00:57:30] | ubuntuEdgy: | do i need mysql on the fron end or can i remove it ? |
[00:58:07] | GreyFoxx: | you don't need the mysql server running on the frontend , you just need the mysql client |
[00:58:33] | GreyFoxx: | client libraries that is |
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[00:59:21] | ubuntuEdgy: | i have the server installed |
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[01:01:49] | Rowdan: | does any one have any experiance with installing the FrontEnd on an Xbox? |
[01:02:23] | ubuntuEdgy: | please wait for me loging out |
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[01:04:44] | Rowdan: | how do i go about forceing a complete dump and reload of the EPG data for mythtv? |
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[01:06:49] | deebus: | got a mythtv compilation error, can someone help me out? |
[01:07:07] | deebus: | also...pastebin is blowing up on me. anyone have a different link |
[01:07:07] | deebus: | ? |
[01:07:14] | sigger_: | pastebin.ca |
[01:07:24] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v jams | |
[01:07:35] | sigger_: | oh, haha tha's the one above. |
[01:08:10] | deebus: | http://pastebin.ca/409987 |
[01:08:19] | deebus: | check out that nastiness |
[01:09:29] | sigger_: | eh, sorry I use the prebuilt freetype package (debian) |
[01:09:51] | grantt: | Rowdan: I'm strugging with the xbox right now |
[01:10:00] | deebus: | hm |
[01:10:08] | deebus: | apt-getting some more tt libraries |
[01:11:01] | sigger_: | not sure you neccesarily wanna get more libraries |
[01:11:12] | sigger_: | more about getting the right ones ;) |
[01:11:38] | grantt: | Rowdan: I've got it installed but it's not playing livetv or recorded programs |
[01:11:39] | dhr: | in C and probably C++, look first at the first error message. |
[01:12:02] | deebus: | yeah. I'm going for the Microsoft version of troubleshooting at this point: install terabyes of data, and hope it works |
[01:12:27] | sigger_: | fire, ready, aim. |
[01:12:39] | sigger_: | what pkgs have you installed |
[01:12:49] | grantt: | Rowdan: I've got a HW mod. I installed xebian into the savegame partition, so I can launch it via XBMC's "My Programs |
[01:12:49] | deebus: | um, lots |
[01:13:01] | dhr: | why no freetype/config/ftheader.h? bad makefile? missing file? |
[01:13:20] | deebus: | I think it might be |
[01:13:26] | deebus: | just ran the config script again |
[01:13:39] | sigger_: | while compile freetype? |
[01:13:56] | sigger_: | er, why that is |
[01:14:00] | deebus: | the compile was complaining about it. not really sure why |
[01:14:09] | sigger_: | what distro? |
[01:14:14] | deebus: | ubuntu |
[01:14:21] | sigger_: | ah, same as me. edgy? |
[01:14:31] | deebus: | nah, dapper |
[01:14:40] | deebus: | edgy x86_64 was giving me toubles |
[01:14:55] | deebus: | so I downgraded to dapper, and it looks like some of those troubles have been fixed |
[01:14:57] | sigger_: | google howto dapper install mythtv |
[01:15:04] | deebus: | already there |
[01:15:09] | sigger_: | there's howto's aplenty |
[01:15:12] | deebus: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_D . . . apper_Server |
[01:15:13] | deebus: | using that one |
[01:15:16] | deebus: | it's a good one |
[01:15:41] | sigger_: | it doesn't mention what freetype pkg to get? |
[01:16:00] | deebus: | well, it did, but the compile complained anyway |
[01:16:09] | deebus: | even though I followed the steps exactly |
[01:16:13] | ** deebus shrugs ** | |
[01:16:18] | dhr: | I like 64-bit, but it probably isn't much of a win for Myth. Probably a lose: you are in a minority and might hit more problems. |
[01:16:22] | ** deebus scratches head and parts unmentionable ** | |
[01:16:38] | grantt: | Rowdan: I just chose the "gamesave partition" option in this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Xbox_Frontend_HOWTO |
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[01:17:10] | Rowdan: | grantt: ok so the installer has the option to leave the curent filesystem intact |
[01:17:20] | grantt: | Rowdan: yes |
[01:17:40] | grantt: | My problem is at the moment it won't play livetv or recorded programs. |
[01:17:54] | grantt: | brb |
[01:18:05] | ubuntuEdgy: | great news people |
[01:18:17] | ubuntuEdgy: | i myback end and all work |
[01:19:06] | deebus: | woo hoo! |
[01:19:11] | dhr: | do you know why it worked this time? |
[01:19:39] | deebus: | please say you installed terabytes of data and hoped it worked, please say you installed terabytes of data and hoped it worked... |
[01:19:43] | ** deebus crosses fingers ** | |
[01:20:38] | ubuntuEdgy: | dhr: it was simple |
[01:20:54] | ubuntuEdgy: | the server ip was set to 127.0.01 |
[01:20:57] | ubuntuEdgy: | lmaoo |
[01:21:46] | grantt: | Rowdan: I don't know about softmods, but I just downloaded the latest ubuntu edgy iso and made a boot dvd. Then followed the instructions in the link I gave above. |
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[01:21:57] | grantt: | But be warned: performance seems pretty sucky on the xbox. |
[01:22:00] | ubuntuEdgy: | how i will just have to make sure the address stays the same |
[01:22:13] | Rowdan: | grantt: ok nm reading is powerfull tool... now going to locat the xbmcmyth |
[01:22:24] | Rowdan: | grantt: oh |
[01:22:55] | ubuntuEdgy: | need to log out brb |
[01:23:24] | grantt: | Rowdan: Yeah, so far I've found the 64MB RAM on the xbox is a real performance limiter. |
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[01:24:25] | deebus: | stupid makefile and C code question for the room... |
[01:24:43] | deebus: | if you run a makefile, and it dies somewhere along the way, and then you run it again... |
[01:26:22] | deebus: | hm. I seem to have asked a question so dumb, the entire channel is sitting in silent awe of my stupidity. |
[01:26:27] | deebus: | cool. |
[01:26:35] | deebus: | :-P |
[01:27:59] | grantt: | deebus: yes, that's the way make works |
[01:28:01] | dhr: | deebus: the question has no "yes" or "no" answer. |
[01:28:39] | dhr: | simple makefiles are intended to work that way. |
[01:29:13] | dhr: | but the problem is: what are the dependencies. If you change something, does the makefile detect it? |
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[01:29:46] | dhr: | do|work: I thought you were in Canada. Not normal working hours here. |
[01:36:53] | GomiBoy: | Got a question: I did a yum upgrade today & now don't get any menu when mythfronted starts. Nothing weird in the logs. Any ideas? |
[01:39:45] | deebus: | what does make distclean do? |
[01:41:02] | GomiBoy: | I'm not running the CVS version. |
[01:41:24] | GomiBoy: | I installed the RPM off atrpms.net |
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[01:50:26] | pac1: | I'm trying to record from pvr150, then copy to dvd. the dvd is all blocky, and the files sizes is way too small. should be 1g is 137 mb.... |
[01:50:49] | pac1: | is there a right way to create a dvd in Myth? |
[01:51:00] | deebus: | yes. not like that. |
[01:51:08] | pac1: | right... |
[01:51:13] | deebus: | :-D |
[01:51:23] | pac1: | so what's the secrit? |
[01:51:26] | deebus: | sorry. I couldn't resist. but unfortunately, I can't help you |
[01:51:33] | deebus: | you're ahead of me, atm |
[01:51:39] | deebus: | I'm still running into compile issues |
[01:51:41] | pac1: | deebus, np. |
[01:51:45] | pac1: | ;-) |
[01:52:03] | Kritter: | you could read this. http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=745 |
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[01:55:30] | pac1: | Kritter, read that, used mythArchive and got the crappy dvd. There's got to be something I've missed in setting up myth. |
[01:56:07] | pac1: | output on disk is 1060_20070101191100.mpg |
[01:56:47] | pac1: | mytharchive runs, but it does transcode. The result is not the right resolution. |
[01:56:55] | Kritter: | if you copy the file from myth to your other machine can you watch it with vlc or similar? |
[01:57:14] | Kritter: | ie: is the source file good and the screw up happens in the transcode. |
[01:57:35] | GreyFoxx: | pac1: What resolution are you recording at ? What resolution is the myt6harchive output coming out as ? |
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[01:58:25] | pac1: | GreyFoxx, I've got the files here, is there a way to show what the resolution of a file is? |
[01:59:04] | GreyFoxx: | I don't believe myth has a built in way to tell you, but most other players will |
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[01:59:13] | GreyFoxx: | or if you have transcode instal;led |
[01:59:19] | GreyFoxx: | tcprobe -i file.mpg |
[01:59:21] | pac1: | lemmey try mplayer on them. |
[01:59:23] | GreyFoxx: | will give you info |
[01:59:32] | GreyFoxx: | mplayer has a -identify I think or something similar |
[02:00:58] | pac1: | tcprobe gives: (*) = not default, 0 = not detected audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 48000,16,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x50 [0x2000] (*) PTS=1.5134, bitrate=384 kbps detected (50) presentation unit(s) (SCR reset) |
[02:01:10] | pac1: | that's what was recorded by myth. |
[02:01:24] | GreyFoxx: | no video info ? |
[02:01:45] | pac1: | kine strange eh? |
[02:02:33] | thylacine222: | Hey, I´ve been recording stuff, but it hasn´t been showing up in Play Recordings, does anyone know why? |
[02:03:30] | pac1: | thylacine222, can you see the .mpg files? |
[02:04:12] | thylacine222: | Yes |
[02:04:17] | thylacine222: | I´ve been able to play them |
[02:04:24] | thylacine222: | Hold, on, trying something from FAQ |
[02:05:09] | pac1: | GreyFoxx, summary from VOB is (*) = not default, 0 = not detectedimport frame size: -g 720x480 [720x576] (*) aspect ratio: 16:9 (*) frame rate: -f 23.976 [25.000] frc=1 (*) PTS=0.1780, frame_time=41 ms, bitrate=9000 kbps audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 44100,16,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x50 [0x2000] (*) PTS=0.1780, bitrate=384 kbps -D 0 --av_fine_ms 0 (frames & ms) [0] [0] |
[02:05:40] | pac1: | hmmm. aspect ratio is wrong. should be 4:3 |
[02:06:23] | pac1: | frame rate 23.976 might be wrong too. |
[02:07:09] | Rowdan: | grantt: you stuill around? |
[02:07:19] | grantt: | Yep |
[02:08:47] | Rowdan: | ok so i got the xbmcMyth but i can get it to conect to the sql server |
[02:10:16] | grantt: | you probably need to enable access to your mysql server. I ran into that problem too. Can't remember exactly where the file is, but somewhere in mysql there's a config file that has a "limit connections to localhost" option. |
[02:10:35] | Rowdan: | how do i go about either seting up a new sql user or reconfigureing the curent ones? |
[02:10:38] | Rowdan: | ah ok |
[02:11:35] | Rowdan: | and i dont supose you know any thing about the 1 hour off in the programing guide ifo do you? |
[02:12:42] | grantt: | no, but i suspect it's due to daylight savings time being wacky this year |
[02:12:53] | Rowdan: | ya thats wut i figured |
[02:15:39] | GomiBoy: | Try upgrading package tzdata |
[02:18:09] | Rowdan: | where would i find the update? |
[02:18:53] | Rowdan: | myth pakages? |
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[02:27:16] | high-rez: | I've read there's some way to set my happaugge mce500 to 720x480 – but I can't seem to figure out how to do this. |
[02:27:59] | hads: | It's in setup in the frontend somewhere |
[02:30:04] | doc|home: | yup, mythtv-setup |
[02:34:19] | hads: | Isn't it in the frontend setup? |
[02:35:09] | high-rez: | i'm not seeing it in mythtv-setup. I wouldda expected it under the captyure card config, but all I get is the /dev/device (type which is mpeg). |
[02:35:17] | ** doc|home looks ** | |
[02:35:37] | hads: | Yeah, in the frontend Setting -> TV Settings -> Recording Profiles |
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[02:39:29] | doc|home: | fair nuff, my bad |
[02:39:44] | high-rez: | cool lets see what this does |
[02:39:44] | high-rez: | :) |
[02:42:42] | high-rez: | hmm i can't tell the difference |
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[03:01:36] | deebus: | anyone know what causes some channels to come in, and others to be static? |
[03:05:31] | sigger_: | deebus, had to run before. you got yours set up? |
[03:07:05] | deebus: | mostly. |
[03:07:14] | deebus: | some channels are coming in as just static |
[03:08:26] | sigger_: | can't help ya there neither. I don't use the tv stuff. |
[03:08:28] | Milosch: | omfg |
[03:09:24] | Rowdan: | deebus: are all of them static? |
[03:09:27] | Milosch: | (bsg) |
[03:12:59] | deebus: | no, just the higher numbers |
[03:13:58] | Rowdan: | deebus: wut chan it start at? |
[03:14:33] | Rowdan: | 13? 99? |
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[03:21:09] | deebus: | lemme check... |
[03:22:47] | deebus: | Rowdan: starts at channel 14 |
[03:27:24] | SirTuxalot: | what is an easy way to reset the theme setup of the front end...something I set really messed it up and it is largely unusable...thanks |
[03:33:21] | Captain_Murdoch: | deebus, sounds like your frequency table setting is wrong. did you set it to one of the cable settings and you're using over-the-air or vice-versa? |
[03:47:30] | deebus: | Murdoch: not sure. I can set that up in mythfrontend, right? |
[03:51:08] | Captain_Murdoch: | mythtv-setup |
[03:56:44] | sigger_: | evening Captain_Murdoch |
[03:56:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | hey |
[03:57:27] | sigger_: | got a bunch of commands working on the mpd emulator. |
[03:57:34] | Captain_Murdoch: | cool |
[03:57:55] | sigger_: | now just looking to g-bee for some guidance on best way to access some music file metadata |
[03:59:11] | sigger_: | if I get this puppy working well, you interested in seeing the main myth telnet expanded? I'm thinking it would be cool to have MythTron (Crestron for mythtv) |
[04:01:39] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, I'm open to patches. I coded the network control stuff originally for Pluto because they wanted a way to directly control Myth rather than keyboard stuffing and it also gave them the ability to query for status. I'm open for new patches/features though. :) |
[04:03:05] | sigger_: | Ah cool. I could finally have a use for my Nokia 770's. One step at a time. |
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[04:09:45] | Rowdan: | deebus: i would sugjest to check your config... sounds like your config is using broadcast tuning |
[04:15:56] | Rowdan: | grantt: ok i think im at same place as you now... am able to conect and sync the data but it wont actually play the files |
[04:17:07] | ner0x: | My MythTv doesn't actually let me watch tv at all. I get "Invalid file (fd -1) when opening" when attempting to read any type of filee. |
[04:17:21] | ner0x: | I'd really like to get this working to replace my actual TV. :) |
[04:17:54] | Rowdan: | GomiBoy: wut were you saying to try and fix the 1 hour off set problem? |
[04:19:03] | Rowdan: | ner0x: this wont realy replace a TV, unless your planing on watching on the comp monitor |
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[04:19:37] | Rowdan: | is more like a open source TIVO |
[04:19:40] | ner0x: | Rowdan: That's what I'm planning on doing. :) I have a dual-monitor setup, would actually make things easier if I got this working. lol |
[04:19:44] | doc|home: | Rowdan: I use it as a tv |
[04:19:49] | Rowdan: | ah ok |
[04:19:58] | purserj: | Rowdan: I have it running on our main tv right now |
[04:20:00] | doc|home: | only tv I use in fact :) |
[04:20:15] | doc|home: | actually it's better than tv. Commercial skipping++ |
[04:20:17] | Rowdan: | well not sure, but sounds like you might need to configure the recording path |
[04:20:22] | purserj: | tvout on our nvidia card is a wonderful thing |
[04:21:23] | Rowdan: | is very true just wanted to make sure we were on the same page, not thinkin that it would replace a tv |
[04:22:10] | ner0x: | Rowdan: :) |
[04:22:29] | Rowdan: | ner0x: i have heard, and read that if the recording path is not set corectly it would give problems like your experianceing |
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[04:26:51] | Loto: | tv out on most gfx cards sucks :( |
[04:27:00] | Loto: | blurfest |
[04:27:08] | hads: | Works fine here. |
[04:27:17] | Loto: | i didnt say it didnt work ;) |
[04:28:06] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: first, try running 'mythfrontend --reset' |
[04:29:09] | ner0x: | Rowdan: I believe I set it up correctly. |
[04:29:10] | Rowdan: | trying to read text is blury but for tv viewing is fine for me |
[04:30:02] | Rowdan: | any one have a pvr-350? |
[04:31:01] | Rowdan: | it has the tuner and video out, just woundering if the output is less blury then vga card video output |
[04:32:25] | hads: | Hmm, segfaults. Time to debug compile |
[04:32:25] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: did that help? |
[04:32:27] | SirTuxalot: | knowledgejunkie: im not ignoring u...brb |
[04:34:14] | Loto: | if you want quality output that is |
[04:35:55] | SirTuxalot: | knowledgejunkie: yes it worked, thank you...my apologies |
[04:36:09] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: no problem :) |
[04:39:28] | SirTuxalot: | knowledgejunkie: maybe you can answer another question for me...up until earlier tonight I was having trouble with the backend segfaulting and getting the error that "Card 1 did not have a hostname" or something to that effect. I deleted my cards in setup and reattached them as V4L instead of MPEG. Would you happen to know why that would make a difference? |
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[04:40:05] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: what card is card 1? |
[04:40:34] | SirTuxalot: | both of my cards are pvr-250s |
[04:40:50] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: they should both be configured as hardware MPEG-2 cards |
[04:41:16] | deebus: | Rowdan: it works! |
[04:41:18] | deebus: | thanks all! |
[04:41:19] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: are you running a single backend? |
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[04:41:51] | SirTuxalot: | thats what they were originally set up as...yes I have one computer that is the frontend and back end |
[04:43:12] | ner0x: | As far as I know, I have everything set up correctly.. I wish there was an auto script for this.. |
[04:43:36] | SirTuxalot: | knowledgejunkie: ill let you chew on that for a bit, i need to step away for a bit...thanks again for the help |
[04:43:48] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: you should go into mythtv-setup -> capture card, then choose "Delete All Capture Cards" – this will remove any old entries. Then re-add them as MPEG-2 cards |
[04:44:24] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: I'll let you try that and see if it works. |
[04:45:22] | Rowdan: | ner0x: have you tryed the knoppMyth distro? |
[04:45:58] | Rowdan: | http://knoppmythwiki.org/ |
[04:50:05] | Rowdan: | #knoppmyth |
[04:58:14] | SirTuxalot: | knowledgejunkie: I made the change, I am not getting the hostname error, but it still segfaults |
[04:58:50] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: can you pastebin the end of the backend logfile before it segfaults? |
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[04:59:58] | SirTuxalot: | sure |
[05:01:26] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: you'll need at least important,general (i.e. the default) logging |
[05:06:47] | SirTuxalot: | Using runtime prefix = /usr |
[05:06:47] | SirTuxalot: | New DB connection, total: 1 |
[05:06:47] | SirTuxalot: | Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost |
[05:06:47] | SirTuxalot: | Current Schema Version: 1160 |
[05:06:47] | SirTuxalot: | New DB connection, total: 2 |
[05:06:48] | SirTuxalot: | Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost |
[05:06:50] | SirTuxalot: | EITHelper: localtime offset -5:00:00 |
[05:06:52] | SirTuxalot: | New DB connection, total: 3 |
[05:06:54] | SirTuxalot: | Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost |
[05:06:56] | SirTuxalot: | EITHelper: localtime offset -5:00:00 |
[05:06:58] | SirTuxalot: | New DB scheduler connection |
[05:07:00] | SirTuxalot: | Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost |
[05:07:02] | SirTuxalot: | Main::Starting HttpServer |
[05:07:03] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: please use pastebin.ca |
[05:07:04] | SirTuxalot: | |
[05:07:06] | SirTuxalot: | |
[05:07:08] | SirTuxalot: | |
[05:07:10] | SirTuxalot: | |
[05:07:12] | SirTuxalot: | |
[05:07:14] | SirTuxalot: | |
[05:09:12] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: go to http://pastebin.ca/, paste the log in the text box, and post the URL |
[05:09:26] | SirTuxalot: | oh okay... |
[05:10:29] | SirTuxalot: | http://pastebin.ca/410171 |
[05:10:35] | SirTuxalot: | like that? |
[05:11:07] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: yep – like that. Is that as far as the backend gets? |
[05:11:24] | SirTuxalot: | yep...the next line is segfault |
[05:11:52] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: OK, rerun the backend using -v all logging and pastebin the log again |
[05:12:03] | SirTuxalot: | but if I change them to V4L it will startup...okay, i will do that |
[05:14:46] | SirTuxalot: | knowledgejunkie: okay, new post is http://pastebin.ca/410178 |
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[05:15:47] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: segfault is due to UPNP |
[05:15:55] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: are you running SVN? |
[05:16:12] | SirTuxalot: | im going to say no, should I be? |
[05:16:40] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: what version (atrpms.net?) are you running? |
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[05:18:01] | SirTuxalot: | what is atrpms.net? that sounds like a redhat issue |
[05:18:31] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: that's for Fedora users – what version of MythTV are *you* running? |
[05:18:53] | SirTuxalot: | im running the latest release on gentoo |
[05:19:31] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: right – do you know which revision (not release) of MythTV it was built from? |
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[05:20:07] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: if you run mythbackend as 'mythbackend --noupnp' does the segfault go away? |
[05:20:39] | SirTuxalot: | no |
[05:21:20] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: what's the output from 'mythbackend --version' |
[05:21:51] | SirTuxalot: | 0.20.20060828–3 |
[05:22:12] | SirTuxalot: | linux debug using_v4l using_oss using_alsa using_ivtv using_firewire using_lirc using_dvb using_x11 using_xv using_xrandr using_opengl_vsync using_opengl using_frontend using_backend using_bindings_perl |
[05:23:02] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: Do you still have your capture cards setup as V4L? |
[05:23:23] | SirTuxalot: | no, they are currently mpeg |
[05:24:14] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: your log from 15 minutes ago says they are still V4L |
[05:24:30] | SirTuxalot: | okay, one sec |
[05:24:44] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: hang on, maybe not |
[05:25:46] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: they're in /dev/v4l/video0, which is threw me |
[05:26:30] | SirTuxalot: | yea, that was different than what the setup said they would be.../dev/video0 |
[05:28:12] | SirTuxalot: | i double checked, they are mpeg |
[05:29:15] | SirTuxalot: | hey, i appreciate the help...will you be on tomorrow night? I need to get to bed. I do thank you for the assistance |
[05:29:47] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: Quite probably – maybe look out for some Gentoo users (I'm a RH/Fedora bod) |
[05:30:12] | SirTuxalot: | alright...ill do that...again, thanks for the help |
[05:30:36] | knowledgejunkie: | SirTuxalot: no problem :) |
[05:30:49] | SirTuxalot: | good night |
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[05:35:31] | chuggs: | roughly how long does it take to output 1 hour to HQ iso via mytharchive ? |
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[06:14:11] | Rowdan: | chuggs: think it would depend on the specs of the box your useing myth on |
[06:14:24] | anykey_: | morning |
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[07:13:02] | Neesat25: | Good morning to all |
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[07:24:14] | Dagmar: | No. |
[07:24:18] | Dagmar: | Don't wanna. |
[07:24:21] | Dagmar: | Ya can't make me. |
[07:24:31] | onewheelskyward: | Make you what now? |
[07:24:43] | Dagmar: | "<Neesat25> Good morning to all" |
[07:25:02] | onewheelskyward: | Ah. He can't make me either. Mainly because it's only 25 minutes past midnight here. |
[07:25:10] | Dagmar: | Not having a real happy night here at work anyway |
[07:25:47] | Dagmar: | In the morning I'm going to have to hassle the guy who manages the giant tape monster and have him *further* stagger the backups |
[07:25:59] | Rowdan: | 25 past midnight is still technikly morning |
[07:26:05] | Rowdan: | hehe |
[07:26:11] | onewheelskyward: | blah blah blah technicality blah blah. |
[07:26:28] | Dagmar: | Cuz right now, the backup server is pulling so much bandwidth, it's choking my monitoring server literally to death |
[07:26:39] | onewheelskyward: | Cool. |
[07:26:47] | Rowdan: | but it does signify me bedtime.... nn |
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[07:26:55] | onewheelskyward: | g'nite |
[07:27:18] | Dagmar: | If I can't monitor the network, I will be forced to start calling people in the middle of the night about it and I'll start with the guy in charge of the backup server |
[07:27:42] | Chicago: | lol |
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[07:27:53] | Dagmar: | I don't like waking people up in the middle of the night, but there's no reason *they* have to know that if it gets them to actually fix things more quickly. |
[07:27:53] | onewheelskyward: | I'm sure he lives for that call. :) |
[07:28:19] | Dagmar: | I'm always extra chipper when something has failed and I feel like the admin was being a slack bastard about it |
[07:30:49] | Dagmar: | People always hate cheerful at 3:30am |
[07:31:55] | Dagmar: | God that reminds me I need to get ahold of the netsec guys and make sure the IDS won't freak the hell out if I convert the monitoring box to using hping instead of ICMP |
[07:32:30] | Dagmar: | 'cuz like, a box suddenly sending syn packets to half the network is probably going to piss off the IDS. |
[07:32:37] | hads: | heh |
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[08:26:49] | juski: | morny morny |
[08:28:42] | qu0zl: | morning Juski |
[08:30:23] | ** juski checks the openchrome website to have a look at their bugtracker.. need to find out what's up with xvmc in the latest cvs ** | |
[08:31:11] | juski: | bah it's down |
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[08:45:25] | juski: | come on openchrome.org.. don't be down all day.... |
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[08:55:50] | rsdvd: | morny Juski |
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[09:35:46] | Ruleke: | hello folks |
[09:49:42] | Dagmar: | Heya Ruleke |
[09:51:01] | Ruleke: | Can anyone inform me on how to use dvb teletext subtitles in mythtv ? |
[09:51:45] | Ruleke: | I suppose the teletext substream is always recorded, just an issue with playback ? |
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[10:03:06] | Chai_Sangeen: | hello everybody |
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[10:08:56] | sid3windr: | :) |
[10:09:06] | sid3windr: | I only have dsp and adsp too, with debian packages :( |
[10:09:22] | sid3windr: | but I only use the box as mythfrontend so oss worksforme(tm) for now... |
[10:10:06] | sid3windr: | but adsp is alsa's dsp, no? |
[10:10:20] | sid3windr: | problem is when I used adsp I didn't get ANY sound, while dsp worked. :) |
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[10:10:53] | rsdvd: | crayzee : I have not touched my sound setup for ages....but I am sure you can just overtype that field with the ALSA:Default.......I don;t think it ever shows as a drop down – I might be completly wrong though |
[10:10:58] | crayzee: | sid3windr, same issue |
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[10:11:30] | crayzee: | rsdvd, now I feel stupid. I didnt realise it was editable! |
[10:11:53] | rsdvd: | I may be wrong – give it a go |
[10:12:26] | crayzee: | rsdvd, worked like a charm |
[10:12:31] | rsdvd: | :-) |
[10:12:32] | ** crayzee leaves in shame ** | |
[10:12:37] | rsdvd: | lol |
[10:12:42] | crayzee: | Thanks! |
[10:12:43] | sid3windr: | ack |
[10:12:46] | sid3windr: | must try that :) |
[10:12:58] | sid3windr: | thanks rsdvd for the hint and crayzee for asking the question ;) |
[10:13:09] | crayzee: | OK, well back to the debian version for me |
[10:13:11] | rsdvd: | Glad I could be of help |
[10:13:12] | sid3windr: | imo it should appear in the dropdown though. |
[10:13:15] | crayzee: | make uninstall works, right? |
[10:13:37] | crayzee: | sid3windr, I guess it is hard to know what all the different alsa devices are? |
[10:13:44] | ** crayzee doesn't know ** | |
[10:13:51] | sid3windr: | well, alsa:default should work everywhere I guess |
[10:13:54] | sid3windr: | unless there is no alsa |
[10:13:59] | crayzee: | True |
[10:14:10] | sid3windr: | but meh, it could use libalsawhatever to find them I think? |
[10:14:24] | sid3windr: | it uses that lib to output the stuff in the first place [i think] |
[10:14:32] | sid3windr: | anyway, problemo solved. on to the next! =) |
[10:14:33] | rsdvd: | sid3windr : it does not show cause your alsa names can be differnt on each machine......and also making it editable give you flexability with other sound systems (JAck etc) |
[10:15:59] | crayzee: | I wonder if there could be an improvement to the GUI to make it more obvious it is a combo box, and not just a drop-down. |
[10:16:05] | ** crayzee is *not* a GUI designer. ** | |
[10:16:54] | rsdvd: | I am sure it is mentioned in the docs...or at least the wilsonet guide or I would not know either :-) |
[10:20:47] | sid3windr: | docs are for pussies! |
[10:21:55] | crayzee: | rsdvd, all I keep reading is "Change Default Device to ALSA:default" |
[10:22:10] | crayzee: | And to me it appears to be a drop down menu... |
[10:22:18] | crayzee: | Anyway |
[10:22:47] | crayzee: | It is an awesome piece of software, and I have been happily using it since 0.16, so I wont complain any more! |
[10:26:45] | sid3windr: | I tried to set it up 3.5 years ago, got tired of it, went to freevo, didn't use that much, got annoyed with some shortcomings + no multituner support, went back to myth a months ago, runs pretty smoothly now with separate back- and frontend :) |
[10:37:06] | Ruleke: | moo |
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[10:52:09] | cbx33: | hi guys |
[10:52:20] | cbx33: | in the image viewer, if i'm using a keyboard, how do i exit |
[10:52:25] | cbx33: | the gallery plugin |
[10:52:52] | cbx33: | the wiki shows to press "exit" on the controller |
[10:52:59] | cbx33: | but there is no corresponding keyboard button |
[10:53:11] | cbx33: | even Ctrl Alt Backspace loads up mythtv back to the same place |
[10:53:13] | cbx33: | :S |
[10:56:12] | rsdvd: | Escape? |
[10:56:26] | cbx33: | nope |
[10:56:33] | cbx33: | that just goes up a level |
[10:56:52] | rsdvd: | escape again :-) |
[10:56:58] | cbx33: | heheh |
[10:57:00] | cbx33: | nope |
[10:57:01] | cbx33: | ;) |
[10:57:29] | cbx33: | also my images are not showing up as thumbnails....which is another strange thing |
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[11:01:56] | rsdvd: | in mythgallery – I exit up and out using the 'backup' key on my remote – which is mapped to esc through lircd – there is no special entry on keybindings so it must use the Global exit which is esc |
[11:05:25] | juski: | docs are for pussies? hmm people who say that are assholes :) |
[11:06:42] | ** crayzee thinks of the Team America speech... ** | |
[11:06:50] | juski: | lol |
[11:07:26] | juski: | man I love that documentary film |
[11:07:35] | crayzee: | Yeah, I know. |
[11:07:44] | crayzee: | "No me gusta! No me gusta!!" |
[11:08:25] | rsdvd: | Hi Juski.......how are you today? |
[11:08:37] | ** hads issues an aptitude dist-upgrade to feisty ** | |
[11:08:43] | crayzee: | Sorry, that was the answer. The question was "What do mexicans say whilst being washed away by a tidal wave?" |
[11:08:52] | juski: | rsdvd: monday :) |
[11:09:12] | crayzee: | hads, I'd love to know how that goes. |
[11:09:37] | crayzee: | hads, I tried AMD64 feisty just 2 days before the beta was released, and it was so unstable I gave up. |
[11:09:55] | hads: | I've been running it on my desktop and laptop for some months. I just decided to upgrade my main myth box. |
[11:09:55] | rsdvd: | juski : I know what you mean......I hate mondays (especialy when your only staff member calls in sick....grrrr!) |
[11:10:10] | cbx33: | how is myth setup for ubuntu |
[11:10:12] | juski: | so we've had ubunut diaper, wedgy, now they've gone & did festery? |
[11:10:16] | cbx33: | last time i tried it was really flaky |
[11:10:25] | jduggan_: | rsdvd, someone is sick?! |
[11:10:27] | hads: | Solid for me. |
[11:10:29] | jduggan_: | how dare someone be sick |
[11:10:30] | jduggan_: | :| |
[11:10:32] | Dagmar: | juski: At least it's not "fisty" |
[11:10:38] | juski: | hahaha |
[11:10:52] | juski: | Dagmar: you're a genius |
[11:10:58] | Ruleke: | lol |
[11:11:05] | juski: | "how does installing ubunut feel?" |
[11:11:07] | cbx33: | hads on edgy? or feisty? |
[11:11:07] | juski: | "fisty" |
[11:11:26] | hads: | cbx33: Edgy, soon to be Feisty |
[11:11:35] | cbx33: | last time i tried |
[11:11:41] | cbx33: | it didn't setup any of the directories |
[11:11:47] | ** cbx33 just tried knopmyth ** | |
[11:11:56] | juski: | hads: careful – YMMV a lot. |
[11:12:06] | cbx33: | ymmv? |
[11:12:10] | dustybin: | i dont know why everyone rates ubuntu, its probably the most unstable distro you can use |
[11:12:11] | Dagmar: | heh |
[11:12:14] | hads: | My milage is fine thanks. |
[11:12:17] | juski: | I've done upgrades to new ubunut versions on a test mythbox – found it worked once but not other times |
[11:12:39] | hads: | dustybin: Stable for me. |
[11:12:41] | juski: | for the effort involved I'd just reinstall the OS now |
[11:12:43] | crayzee: | cbx33, seems to work for me, but I always copy my old db, .mythtv dirs,etc over manually, and then install the distro's version. |
[11:12:58] | cbx33: | ok |
[11:13:08] | cbx33: | I'm hoping to do fesity beta install |
[11:13:14] | cbx33: | then install mythtv on that |
[11:13:25] | cbx33: | is there a nice guide on it all? |
[11:13:35] | hads: | juski: I've been dist-upgrading Debian for years now without reinstalling, there's always a few niggles but nothing too major |
[11:13:39] | crayzee: | juski, there are serious issues with upgrading to edgy. Feisty has fixed most of them, from what I hear. |
[11:13:57] | cbx33: | is mythtv gonna provide that? |
[11:14:01] | crayzee: | dustybin, choice and fashion my friend. |
[11:14:02] | Dagmar: | Probably not |
[11:14:03] | cbx33: | via either ubuntu |
[11:14:07] | cbx33: | of knoppmyth |
[11:14:22] | cbx33: | s/of/or |
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[11:14:37] | juski: | yeah well when I'm done with ubunut I might head back to gentoo. or maybe slack |
[11:14:42] | Dagmar: | Your last statement implies that you're not willing do anything that requires manual intervention, so let the leading zero in the version number be a big hint that MythTV is not going to work without some manual intervention. |
[11:14:58] | cbx33: | oh no....I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty |
[11:14:58] | crayzee: | juski, gentoos not so stable at the minute |
[11:14:59] | cbx33: | ;) |
[11:15:06] | cbx33: | I'm an ubuntu dev for crying out lout |
[11:15:11] | Dagmar: | OKay, that's a different matter. In that case you should be quite happy. |
[11:15:12] | juski: | even if it was 1.x, do you think it'd read yer frickin' mind? |
[11:15:17] | crayzee: | juski, I left it due to being MILES behind in geting X,org-7 unmaskes |
[11:15:20] | crayzee: | *unmasked |
[11:15:21] | cbx33: | but i was hoping to get manual intevention to a minimal |
[11:15:21] | Dagmar: | Just keep any loose clothing away from it while you're working on it. |
[11:15:25] | cbx33: | as i have other stuf to do ;) |
[11:15:45] | juski: | 1. install ubunut |
[11:15:48] | juski: | 2. install mythtv |
[11:15:55] | juski: | 3. fix the stupid arse database problem |
[11:15:58] | Dagmar: | 4. steal more underpants |
[11:15:59] | juski: | 3. run mythtv-setup |
[11:16:24] | hads: | There is no database problem if you install from source |
[11:16:24] | Dagmar: | juski: Someone from ubuntu was in here this morning practically swearing that it has all been fixed now if you follow the edgy install guide |
[11:16:38] | cbx33: | heheh |
[11:16:43] | dustybin: | ubuntu doesnt go through rigorous testing like other distros, it would be wiser to install debian instead of ubuntu, at least your guaranteed stability |
[11:16:54] | hads: | and oldness :) |
[11:16:58] | cbx33: | hads did you install from source |
[11:17:05] | hads: | cbx33: Ya |
[11:17:08] | cbx33: | juski what is the database problem? |
[11:17:23] | cbx33: | hads is the from myth source....o |
[11:17:51] | juski: | Dagmar: I'll die before I believe that |
[11:18:04] | Ruleke: | -EPARSE |
[11:18:06] | crayzee: | dustybin, and then install all the iup to date software you want from source? And research and fetch the patches yourself? I don't have time for all that! |
[11:18:17] | crayzee: | *iup -> up |
[11:18:28] | juski: | cbx33: the database problem is of the package installer randomising the db password |
[11:18:47] | cbx33: | ahhh juski should be fixed in feisty? |
[11:18:51] | cbx33: | i'd hope |
[11:19:14] | cbx33: | lets not get into a distro war :p |
[11:19:15] | juski: | cbx33: I'm past caring |
[11:19:22] | Ruleke: | debian ftw ;) |
[11:19:27] | cbx33: | heheh |
[11:19:27] | ** Ruleke sits back ** | |
[11:19:27] | crayzee: | Well, randomising the password is very sensible, if a user knows nothing about securing their PC. |
[11:19:34] | cbx33: | true |
[11:19:36] | juski: | we flagged it up as an issue last OCTOBER |
[11:19:46] | cbx33: | well then it should be fixed by now |
[11:19:57] | cbx33: | anyone here tried feisty and myth from scratch? |
[11:20:00] | hads: | It's interesting how much time is spent discussing this topic here |
[11:20:07] | Ruleke: | it should also lock the root account and encrypt the harddisk, then create a black hole and use it as a swap device |
[11:20:12] | juski: | then proceeded to get very pissed off at zillions of people coming in here complaining "cannot connect to database" |
[11:20:41] | Ruleke: | I went ott with the black hole didn't I ? damn |
[11:20:49] | Ruleke: | it almost looked believable :P |
[11:20:53] | Dagmar: | Yeah this guy I mentioned was swearing there was a whole group assigned to deal with their MythTV packages now |
[11:21:05] | cbx33: | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Backend_Frontend |
[11:21:07] | ** juski laughs ** | |
[11:21:10] | Dagmar: | We'll see about that |
[11:21:11] | juski: | I was in that group |
[11:21:12] | cbx33: | well that's a pretty big doc ;) |
[11:21:43] | crayzee: | if only it would automatically install /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.[ext] as well... And of course the current user... Perhaps have a global file belonging to the mythtv group, and allow simple adding of user to that group... |
[11:21:52] | juski: | I know – you can all just blame me for deserting it – that's why mythtv on ubunut sucks – cos I didn't stick it out |
[11:21:54] | crayzee: | But meh, mythtv:mythtv is easier to remember. :) |
[11:22:33] | cbx33: | oh juski.....how could you :p |
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[11:23:06] | Ruleke: | juski: you killed mythtv ! you bastard ! |
[11:23:08] | Ruleke: | :) |
[11:23:24] | Ruleke: | now get back in your theme sweatshop and crank out some goodness |
[11:23:46] | juski: | hey neon-wide is out of beta already |
[11:23:51] | Ruleke: | nice |
[11:23:59] | juski: | thanks to all the user-contributed debug reports... |
[11:23:59] | Ruleke: | I don't use it myself though, but kudos |
[11:24:03] | juski: | COUGH |
[11:24:22] | cbx33: | neon-wide? |
[11:24:35] | Ruleke: | hey you don't expect users to test something with bugs right ? it has to be perfect at first release :) |
[11:24:50] | crayzee: | Ruleke, lol |
[11:25:22] | juski: | lazy buggers, those users |
[11:25:26] | juski: | all they ever do is use |
[11:25:32] | Ruleke: | make it perfect, then I'll "test" it ;) |
[11:25:48] | Ruleke: | actually no |
[11:25:52] | juski: | AFAICT it IS perfect |
[11:25:58] | Ruleke: | once it's perfect I want you to install it for me |
[11:26:03] | Ruleke: | and bring me a beer too |
[11:26:16] | crayzee: | Or a beer throwing fridge... |
[11:26:17] | juski: | heheh you know what you can do :-P |
[11:26:22] | Ruleke: | when you're done with that you can mow the lawn |
[11:26:26] | Ruleke: | ;) |
[11:26:56] | juski: | yeah, well you can cook my sock! |
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[11:27:07] | crayzee: | Bug number 19234: MythTV does not mow my lawn. Steps to reproduce: 1) Install MythTV, 2) Look at lawn. |
[11:27:46] | Ruleke: | confirmed by : Ruleke |
[11:27:58] | Ruleke: | assigned-to : Juski |
[11:28:10] | juski: | ticket closed. |
[11:28:12] | crayzee: | priority : high |
[11:28:14] | Ruleke: | wontfix ? |
[11:28:15] | Ruleke: | ;) |
[11:28:16] | juski: | reason: too lazy |
[11:29:30] | juski: | Bug number 27863: MythTV made me so angry I destroyed my pc |
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[11:29:40] | juski: | additional information: see http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=juski2 |
[11:29:51] | juski: | additional information: see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRF7LKM47uA |
[11:30:37] | juski: | anyway.. I is offski |
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[11:34:34] | crayzee: | Awww, I was hoping to see a PC destroyed, not a keyboard. :( |
[11:35:08] | Ruleke: | hehe |
[11:35:16] | Ruleke: | I've seen that one before |
[11:35:25] | rsdvd: | does anyone here have an antec fusion case? |
[11:35:46] | Ruleke: | not me |
[11:36:21] | rsdvd: | :-) anyone else? |
[11:37:27] | Ruleke: | I'm tempted to get a coolermaster STC-T01 |
[11:37:30] | Ruleke: | :-) |
[11:37:35] | Ruleke: | not that this helps you |
[11:37:58] | rsdvd: | are they expensive? |
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[11:38:15] | Ruleke: | I think so |
[11:38:48] | rsdvd: | ewww.....that looks horid |
[11:39:38] | Ruleke: | I need lots of accessible storage |
[11:39:55] | rsdvd: | :-) well that defo has that |
[11:39:59] | sid3windr: | a stacker is quite nice |
[11:40:11] | sid3windr: | for being a huge-ass case with lots of storage options, and second power supply and all |
[11:40:12] | Ruleke: | yeah I like the crossfan idea, not sure how well it works though |
[11:40:35] | ** sid3windr has a lian-li pc60 for workstation ** | |
[11:40:54] | Ruleke: | this is for the backend anyways, noise is secondary |
[11:41:13] | Ruleke: | just put some 5-in-3 hotswap enclosure thingies in there and I should be ok |
[11:41:28] | Ruleke: | problem with that is I don't know if it'll fit |
[11:41:47] | Ruleke: | it seems to use these screw-on rails dealies for the 5.25" slots |
[11:43:39] | crayzee: | P-180B |
[11:43:57] | Ruleke: | wassat |
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[11:44:27] | Ruleke: | crayzee: looks nice, just need the disks accessible |
[11:44:59] | crayzee: | My case is an Antec P-180B. Its a P-180, but in black. Great cooling, fairly quiet, adjustable fan speeds, LOADS of space for drives, PSU at bottom, holes for watercooling,... |
[11:45:02] | sid3windr: | Ruleke: those 5-in-3 should support the rails yes, but make sure the space you're going to put it in is deep enough! |
[11:45:13] | sid3windr: | Ruleke: thought that shouldn't be a problem in the stacker I think |
[11:45:18] | Ruleke: | yeah that was the next problem :P |
[11:45:38] | sid3windr: | my backend is a 4U/tower supermicro with 3 5-in-3 boxes |
[11:45:57] | Ruleke: | that's what I want |
[11:46:05] | Ruleke: | which 5-in-3 do you use ? |
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[11:47:21] | crayzee: | Wow, thats a whole load of storage. |
[11:47:23] | Ruleke: | my POC box is just a beige-box mini tower with one 5-in-3 sata hotplug box |
[11:47:35] | Dagmar: | Damn dude |
[11:47:39] | Dagmar: | Get out of the house occasionally |
[11:47:45] | Ruleke: | I do |
[11:47:53] | Ruleke: | which is why it all needs to be accessible et |
[11:47:54] | Ruleke: | etc* |
[11:48:02] | Ruleke: | just hotplug the damn thing |
[11:48:10] | crayzee: | Dagmar, what is out of the house? |
[11:48:16] | Ruleke: | the daystar |
[11:48:28] | sid3windr: | Ruleke: supermicro |
[11:48:32] | crayzee: | Dagmar, last time I looked it was rain and miserable people. |
[11:48:55] | crayzee: | That was a couple of weeks ago, mind... |
[11:50:52] | Ruleke: | sid3windr: can't fidn that one :/ |
[11:50:57] | crayzee: | How do you go about cooling with those 5-in-3s? |
[11:51:45] | ** cbx33 just wants a media center that works ** | |
[11:51:57] | cbx33: | I tried LinuxMCE over the weekend |
[11:52:13] | Ruleke: | crayzee: mine has its own, never gets over 35C |
[11:52:15] | cbx33: | got potential....but lacking in some key areas |
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[11:52:45] | Ruleke: | yikes |
[11:52:48] | Chicago: | yeah |
[11:52:57] | Chicago: | I had to see if my modem got cutoff... |
[11:53:26] | crayzee: | Ruleke, is it noisy? |
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[11:53:46] | Ruleke: | crayzee: not sure |
[11:53:53] | crayzee: | Chicago, you wouldnt get quit messages if your modem died, would you? |
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[11:54:08] | Ruleke: | I don't think so... this is the backend proof of concept beige box thingy, so the cpu and psu fan are already loud |
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[11:54:20] | Chicago: | crayzee: I never have before... but checking the modem is more of a reflex. |
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[11:54:29] | crayzee: | Chicago, fair play! |
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[11:54:33] | Ruleke: | modems... that takes me back |
[11:54:38] | cbx33: | heheh |
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[11:56:23] | crayzee: | Well, I designed my new PC to be fairly quiet (within a budget) and to replace my old very unstable PC (which I have lovingly given to my fiancee... heh heh heh) and it's really nice for watching TV, keeps the drives at 31C, and has 1.5TB storage. That should last me a while, I hope! |
[11:56:48] | ** cbx33 has $800 to spend on a media center ** | |
[11:56:49] | Ruleke: | yeah this thing is also the house file server |
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[11:57:10] | cbx33: | any recommendations? |
[11:57:19] | Ruleke: | cbx33: give it to me :) |
[11:57:23] | cbx33: | hahah |
[11:57:25] | cbx33: | ;) |
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[11:57:44] | Ruleke: | it's such a common question with no real sensible simple answer |
[11:57:51] | cbx33: | yeh i suppose |
[11:57:51] | crayzee: | cbx33, mine cost me £800... which is what, $1600? But I got stuff like UPS and all, to make the components live longer. Plus 4 new 320GB HDDs adds to the cost... |
[11:57:59] | cbx33: | wow |
[11:58:05] | Ruleke: | crayzee: lol @ dollar conversion ;) |
[11:58:07] | cbx33: | crayzee...that's just crayzee |
[11:58:20] | ** cbx33 ** | |
[11:58:29] | cbx33: | if i'm talking about my native currency |
[11:58:47] | Ruleke: | it's not that you will ahve to pay it in pounds |
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[11:59:00] | Ruleke: | it doesn't exactly work like that |
[11:59:18] | crayzee: | cbx33, is it just for MythTV? Does it have to be quiet? How much storage do you want/need? |
[11:59:30] | cbx33: | quiet yes.....just a mythtv media box |
[11:59:35] | cbx33: | would like 5.1 surround |
[11:59:38] | cbx33: | i have speakers |
[11:59:42] | hads: | How many tuners? |
[11:59:50] | cbx33: | but the only input is 3 3.5 mm jacks |
[11:59:55] | cbx33: | 1 tuner would be fine |
[12:00:16] | cbx33: | but a little expensive |
[12:00:21] | crayzee: | cbx33, most fairly-budget mobos have onboard 5.1 surround now. |
[12:00:24] | cbx33: | 2 would be nice |
[12:00:29] | hads: | The Silverstone gear is reasonably priced |
[12:00:30] | Ruleke: | dvb-t/dvb-c/dvb-s/s2 ? :) |
[12:00:32] | cbx33: | does myth support it? |
[12:00:32] | Ruleke: | hd ? |
[12:00:36] | cbx33: | no hd |
[12:00:43] | Ruleke: | hads: lol you think ? |
[12:00:45] | cbx33: | i don't get the differneces |
[12:00:53] | Ruleke: | hads: I find it to be the expensive option tbh |
[12:00:59] | crayzee: | terrestrial/cable/satelite |
[12:01:03] | ** cbx33 too ** | |
[12:01:05] | cbx33: | ahhh |
[12:01:08] | cbx33: | dvb-t |
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[12:01:20] | crayzee: | welcome back, everyone... |
[12:01:25] | Ruleke: | it's an invasion |
[12:01:27] | cbx33: | was looking at the wintv nova-t pci |
[12:01:33] | hads: | Ruleke: Compared to the other quiet type brands that are out there they are cheap. Here at least. |
[12:01:47] | Ruleke: | hads: not here :( |
[12:01:54] | Ruleke: | they look nice though |
[12:01:56] | fabbione: | c" appears to do nothing... any help would be very much appreciated |
[12:02:04] | crayzee: | I have an *old* Freecom DVB-T. Cost me £30. Works like a charm. |
[12:02:15] | cbx33: | crayzee cool |
[12:02:19] | cbx33: | that's the price of the hauppage |
[12:02:28] | hads: | It's funny how different brands are cheap/expensive in different countires . |
[12:02:29] | crayzee: | I also have a new Freecom DVB-T (USB stick). Is in my drawer as it doesn't work well at all. |
[12:03:03] | crayzee: | Used to crash my old PC, and stop the keyboard working in X, and all sorts of things. |
[12:03:08] | cbx33: | yikes |
[12:03:15] | cbx33: | btw i think i found out the issue with the gallery |
[12:03:18] | crayzee: | Though, I am fairly sure that that may be because my old PC was so unstable... |
[12:03:22] | cbx33: | it was cos i had a usb stick plugged in |
[12:03:31] | cbx33: | unplugged that and it seemed to work ok |
[12:03:54] | crayzee: | My saa7134-dvb card (Pinnacle 300i) now works fine in my new pc, too. |
[12:03:59] | cbx33: | crayzee any preference on mobos? |
[12:04:01] | cbx33: | cool |
[12:04:07] | cbx33: | i was gonna go with asus |
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[12:04:12] | crayzee: | cbx33, I prefer ASUS with nVidia chipsets |
[12:04:15] | cbx33: | ;) |
[12:04:17] | cbx33: | me too |
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[12:04:27] | cbx33: | what do i do for output to a tv |
[12:04:28] | crayzee: | My current one is a M2N-SLI |
[12:04:33] | cbx33: | just a simple nvidia agp card with a tv out? |
[12:04:39] | cbx33: | I have something similar |
[12:04:42] | crayzee: | I had a A7V600 (KT600 chipset not nVidia) before. |
[12:04:43] | Ruleke: | I wish they would do purevideo though |
[12:04:44] | cbx33: | but that's for my dev machine |
[12:04:55] | Ruleke: | my money is now on intel to be the first with decent drivers |
[12:05:07] | cbx33: | heheh |
[12:05:15] | hads: | Yeah, Intel video seems to be coming along nicely |
[12:05:16] | crayzee: | cbx33, ENSURE that you get a low powered processor |
[12:05:28] | cbx33: | crayzee....any recommendations? |
[12:05:34] | cbx33: | do you go AMD or INTEL? |
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[12:05:39] | Ruleke: | hads: the only decent way to do it... completely open |
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[12:05:48] | cbx33: | ahh cool |
[12:05:48] | hads: | Ruleke: Agreed |
[12:05:50] | crayzee: | cbx33, AMD all the way. |
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[12:05:58] | cbx33: | cool |
[12:05:59] | cbx33: | me too |
[12:06:13] | hads: | I'm prefering Intel CPUs lately |
[12:06:13] | crayzee: | Do *not* get ATI video cards. |
[12:06:17] | cbx33: | crayzee, sounds good |
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[12:06:26] | crayzee: | Intel best for support, nVidia best for performance. |
[12:06:27] | cbx33: | I always ALWAYS get ASUS/NVIDIA/AMD |
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[12:06:42] | crayzee: | cbx33, tried and trusted :) |
[12:06:45] | cbx33: | indeed |
[12:06:49] | cbx33: | never failed me before |
[12:07:22] | cbx33: | crayzee, so how did you setup your mythtv box? |
[12:07:25] | crayzee: | cbx33, as a small thing, I would recommend you get some arctic silver 5 paste (TIM) |
[12:07:40] | Ruleke: | I quite liked to look of the asus M2NPV-VM as a motherboard |
[12:07:41] | cbx33: | for the heat compound? |
[12:07:48] | crayzee: | cbx33, I don't remember. It was so long ago. I think I first compiled it with Gentoo... |
[12:07:56] | Ruleke: | untill I realized it won't do h.264 gpu-accelerated anyway in linux |
[12:07:59] | crayzee: | cbx33, yeah. |
[12:08:11] | cbx33: | so your box is pretty much left alone now? |
[12:08:41] | cbx33: | oh what about lirc |
[12:08:43] | crayzee: | cbx33, only built my new box last week... |
[12:08:53] | cbx33: | crayzee...installed it yet? |
[12:09:00] | crayzee: | cbx33, I use a serial receiver. bought it from some guy |
[12:09:06] | crayzee: | cbx33, am using it this very second. |
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[12:09:22] | cbx33: | grog |
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[12:09:28] | ** cbx33 knows not what to buy ** | |
[12:09:56] | crayzee: | cbx33, it is very multi-purpose though. AMD X2, webserver/database/development/svn/mythtv/gaming/etc. Does everything. |
[12:10:03] | cbx33: | awesome |
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[12:10:36] | crayzee: | cbx33, I would recommend you use SATAII. |
[12:10:38] | Ruleke: | I'm waiting on the big April hdtv changes my cable company is announcing... could be that they will link the CAM to their STB, which would be terrible for me :-/ |
[12:11:10] | Ruleke: | I'd have to get one of those CAMs where you can input the box's code, but then would need to figure out how to extract it first :P |
[12:11:10] | crayzee: | cbx33, whatever you do, dont use IDE with more than one drive per thingy[channel?]. [Only use master drives, don't use slaves] |
[12:11:17] | cbx33: | crayzee that was my plan |
[12:11:26] | cbx33: | SATA II |
[12:11:41] | Ruleke: | would you still build ide these days ? :-/ |
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[12:12:04] | crayzee: | Ruleke, if you just move HDDs from old to new then yes. |
[12:12:04] | ** cbx33 wouldn't ** | |
[12:12:20] | cbx33: | crayzee: true ;) |
[12:12:24] | ** crayzee looks around innocently. ** | |
[12:12:46] | cbx33: | hehe |
[12:12:52] | cbx33: | so interms of CPU power |
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[12:13:00] | cbx33: | how much do you think i would need ;) |
[12:13:11] | cbx33: | can i put like 2 wintvnota-ts in there |
[12:13:15] | crayzee: | cbx33, 1.5GHz should do it easily I would think |
[12:13:20] | crayzee: | Oh, then 2GHz |
[12:13:27] | Ruleke: | huh ? |
[12:13:32] | crayzee: | *shrugs* do you use PIP? |
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[12:13:45] | Ruleke: | ah yes |
[12:13:45] | cbx33: | PIP? |
[12:13:47] | cbx33: | oh |
[12:13:48] | cbx33: | no |
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[12:13:51] | cbx33: | well not yet |
[12:13:53] | crayzee: | If you are recording on both and watching back both with PIP then you need more power... |
[12:13:59] | cbx33: | this will be my first myth tv box |
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[12:14:21] | crayzee: | Are you planning on using software RAID? |
[12:14:31] | cbx33: | i wasn't no |
[12:14:36] | cbx33: | |
[12:14:38] | cbx33: | so |
[12:15:07] | Ruleke: | software raid doesn't really use a lot of cpu anyways |
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[12:15:16] | crayzee: | Ruleke, true. |
[12:15:19] | Ruleke: | still goign strong on this p2–300 :) |
[12:15:26] | Ruleke: | that's my dvb backend :) |
[12:15:30] | sinthetek: | i'm trying to figure out how to watch scheduled recordings |
[12:15:41] | sinthetek: | i see it in previosly recorded but cannot figure out how to play it back |
[12:15:47] | crayzee: | cbx33, a low powered sempron should do it. |
[12:15:52] | cbx33: | wow really? |
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[12:16:05] | cbx33: | that could bring the cost down |
[12:16:18] | crayzee: | I mean low powered as in wattage not speed... |
[12:16:24] | ** cbx33 was gonna kick for a 3800 64 ** | |
[12:16:25] | cbx33: | yeh |
[12:16:31] | sinthetek: | when i goto 'watch recordings' the show doesn't appear, it only gets listed in 'previously recorded' |
[12:16:34] | hads: | sinthetek: "Watch Recordings" |
[12:16:44] | hads: | Ah |
[12:16:59] | crayzee: | Well, I had the setup you want with a Athlon XP 2800+ and my system seemed to manage fine... |
[12:17:16] | crayzee: | Except for the instability... but that wasnt related to the processor load. |
[12:17:26] | sinthetek: | i tried removing them from the previously recorded list in hopes they'd appear in the 'watch recordings' list about a week ago and i never recovered 'em, heh |
[12:17:32] | hads: | My master BE/FE is only a XP1500+ |
[12:17:39] | sinthetek: | so this time i thought i'd google and ask before trying anything new |
[12:17:46] | Ruleke: | should be ok, I've had a 3-tuner epia do all the work needed |
[12:17:52] | sinthetek: | scheduled recordings are supposed to show up in the 'watch recordings' menu automatically, then? |
[12:18:04] | Ruleke: | analog sdtv, but should be the same as dvb imho |
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[12:18:24] | hads: | Yes, sinthetek, recordings should just appear in the Watch Recordings screen |
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[12:18:32] | crayzee: | Well dvb uses virtually nothing for recording. |
[12:18:42] | Ruleke: | neither do the pvr analog cards :) |
[12:18:44] | crayzee: | Like 2% CPU or something. |
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[12:18:53] | cbx33: | crayzee cool |
[12:18:56] | crayzee: | Ruleke, ah. :) |
[12:19:00] | hads: | Both the same, just dumping data to disk |
[12:19:03] | sinthetek: | ok... any idea what might have prevented it from being moved to the 'watch recordings' menu? they didn't the last time either |
[12:19:03] | crayzee: | Ruleke, help with playback too, dont they? |
[12:19:05] | Ruleke: | yer |
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[12:19:09] | Ruleke: | the 350 does |
[12:19:18] | Ruleke: | but I've run with the epia xvmc too |
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[12:19:24] | sinthetek: | could it be a setting when i modified when first scheduling it? |
[12:19:29] | cbx33: | crayzee do the hardware pvr cards offer any significant advantage? |
[12:19:35] | crayzee: | cbx33, note that you can offload a lot of the MPEG2 stuff to your graphics card, so less processor power needed for that too... |
[12:19:45] | cbx33: | how do you do that? |
[12:19:45] | Ruleke: | cbx33: they don't do dvb, your requirement was dvb |
[12:19:52] | cbx33: | ahhh i see |
[12:20:00] | cbx33: | crayzee is that easy to do? |
[12:20:00] | crayzee: | cbx33, I just use DVB-T now, chucked out my old analog stuff. |
[12:20:01] | hads: | DVB is MPEG2 anyway |
[12:20:18] | cbx33: | i see |
[12:20:21] | crayzee: | cbx33, XvMC |
[12:20:28] | cbx33: | sorry....I'm still a little new to some of this |
[12:20:30] | Ruleke: | I still use 1 pvr350 as a secondary tuner in the frontend, the rest is dvb-c |
[12:20:37] | cbx33: | XvMC? |
[12:21:02] | crayzee: | cbx33, look up XvMC in the wiki. It will be way more informative than I am. |
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[12:21:27] | crayzee: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC |
[12:21:33] | hads: | Heh, my box just dist-upgraded without interupting me watching TV |
[12:21:48] | crayzee: | hads, nice :) |
[12:22:29] | hads: | I'll need to recompile lirc before I reboot though but that's about it. |
[12:23:50] | cbx33: | thanks crayzee |
[12:24:00] | Ruleke: | I wonder when the IR chips will move to the hid layer |
[12:24:20] | Ruleke: | or event driven interfaces, whatever subsystem of the kernel that is |
[12:24:54] | cbx33: | so crayzee using that requires recompiling mythtv |
[12:25:09] | crayzee: | cbx33, Ill just check |
[12:25:15] | cbx33: | it looks like it |
[12:25:38] | cbx33: | unless ubuntu or knopmyth compile it with XvMC support |
[12:25:39] | hads: | Depends if myth is compiled with support enabled to start with I guess. |
[12:25:58] | Ruleke: | knoppmyth does |
[12:26:02] | cbx33: | so.....in all honesty, do you guys think it is better to compile everything from source? |
[12:26:06] | Ruleke: | but it doesn't wot |
[12:26:13] | Ruleke: | s/wot/work on epia |
[12:26:16] | Ruleke: | for some reason |
[12:26:22] | cbx33: | epia is? |
[12:26:48] | hads: | Via Mini-ITX |
[12:26:48] | Ruleke: | the via "embedded" platform, a mini-itx solution with a C3 cpu |
[12:26:51] | crayzee: | cbx33, it is compiled in in ubuntu |
[12:26:56] | cbx33: | cool |
[12:26:56] | Ruleke: | or C7 these days I guess |
[12:27:00] | cbx33: | awesome |
[12:27:06] | hads: | EPIA boards are cool |
[12:27:11] | crayzee: | Argh! Standard XvMC screws the sound! |
[12:27:12] | Ruleke: | literally ;) |
[12:27:19] | cbx33: | i mean.....i can always get hte mythtv pacakges from ubutnu and recompile them |
[12:27:39] | ** cbx33 is a MOTU, so i should be able to handle that ;) ** | |
[12:27:42] | crayzee: | And and it makes the status thingy grey... |
[12:27:48] | Ruleke: | personally I install knoppmyth for friends/family and use debian and svn-fixes compiled for myself |
[12:28:06] | cbx33: | I'm thinking of possibly starting with knopmyth |
[12:28:15] | cbx33: | and then seeing what I need to change for myself |
[12:28:18] | Ruleke: | it's a good way to at least start out imho |
[12:28:22] | cbx33: | yeh |
[12:28:25] | Ruleke: | if you stick with it is up to you |
[12:28:34] | cbx33: | well....we WANT a media center |
[12:28:42] | cbx33: | hence why i looked at linuxMCE |
[12:28:49] | cbx33: | but it just had too many bugs |
[12:28:55] | cbx33: | and was damn slow to load |
[12:28:58] | sinthetek: | no idea how to manually move a program from the 'previously recorded' menu to the 'watch recordings' menu? |
[12:29:23] | hads: | sinthetek: That's not something that you need to or can do AFAIK |
[12:29:26] | cbx33: | how active is mythtv development anyhow....a new version expected when? |
[12:29:41] | hads: | When it's ready |
[12:29:47] | cbx33: | hehe |
[12:29:49] | cbx33: | great answer ;) |
[12:29:57] | hads: | The development is active. Look at the Trac |
[12:30:06] | cbx33: | i suppose being an ubuntu dev i get locked into the feeling of regular releases |
[12:30:53] | sinthetek: | hads: short of opening another video player and sifting through the other ambiguously-named video to find mine... i do need to figure out how i think |
[12:31:02] | sinthetek: | s/video/videos |
[12:31:26] | sinthetek: | s/mine/the right one |
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[12:31:42] | qu0zl: | sinthetek, if the video is still there then it'll be in the 'watch recordings' menu. Make sure you don't have a default view filter on |
[12:31:46] | cbx333: | sorry bout that |
[12:32:10] | sinthetek: | qu0zl: i think i used default-everything almost except scheduling priority |
[12:32:27] | ** sinthetek checks his video filter settings ** | |
[12:32:40] | qu0zl: | it's not a feature of the recording settings, it's a feature of the 'watch recordings' menu itself |
[12:32:45] | Zider: | .msg AuthServ@chanserv.arcnet.vapor.com RESETPASS gosan onem1ss1letwom1ss1le |
[12:32:46] | crayzee: | Why does XvMC mess everything up so much> |
[12:32:50] | crayzee: | ? even |
[12:32:51] | Zider: | damn, wrong windoe :D |
[12:33:08] | cbx333: | crayzee thanks for all the help |
[12:33:19] | crayzee: | cbx333, no worries |
[12:33:30] | cbx333: | so for output to the TV |
[12:33:48] | cbx333: | i don't have HD or nothing fancy....would the standard tv out on an nvidia 6200 series be ok? |
[12:33:52] | Zider: | noone saw that, right? ;) |
[12:34:09] | cbx333: | Zider......of course not....(hehehe) |
[12:34:14] | Zider: | ;P |
[12:34:28] | Zider: | well, I was about to change it anyway, so what's another change.. :) |
[12:34:41] | sinthetek: | hah! that was it |
[12:34:43] | sinthetek: | thanks qu0zl |
[12:34:49] | cbx333: | i at the moment take the SVHS output of my card |
[12:34:49] | qu0zl: | :) |
[12:34:51] | sinthetek: | the filter was set to livetv rather than all programs |
[12:35:01] | cbx333: | and plug it in via the SCART adapter I have |
[12:35:12] | cbx333: | is that an ok way to do things? |
[12:35:28] | sinthetek: | for some reason it seems to be only showing the programs i saved when i selected 'all programs' |
[12:35:30] | sinthetek: | but whatever :P |
[12:35:43] | sinthetek: | at least now i know i can switch video filters to watch what i want, hehe |
[12:35:45] | sinthetek: | ok, thanks again |
[12:35:50] | sinthetek: | hold it down! |
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[12:37:31] | Ruleke: | Zider: is it twom1ss1lethreetwom1ss1le ? :) |
[12:37:48] | Zider: | Ruleke: damn! ;) |
[12:38:03] | Ruleke: | oh scratch that last 'two' |
[12:38:06] | Ruleke: | copypaste :) |
[12:38:35] | Zider: | oh, lucky guess then ;) |
[12:38:45] | cbx333: | crayzee should 5.1 sound....."just work" on knopmyth ?? |
[12:38:59] | Ruleke: | almost |
[12:39:08] | Ruleke: | you might have to play with some mixer stuff |
[12:39:14] | cbx333: | ahhh ok |
[12:39:18] | sid3windr: | is there a way to test surround on linux? |
[12:39:21] | Ruleke: | or are we talking ac3 passthrough ? |
[12:39:29] | cbx333: | Dude I have no idea |
[12:39:33] | sid3windr: | like on windows creative had a tool that said "left front" "left rear" .... |
[12:39:37] | sid3windr: | through the right speakers :) |
[12:39:40] | Ruleke: | sid3windr: I use a test file that lists all 8 channels |
[12:39:43] | sid3windr: | s/right/correct/ |
[12:39:47] | sid3windr: | Ruleke: care to share? :) |
[12:39:50] | Ruleke: | well 7, the bass doesn't really 'list' :P |
[12:39:55] | sid3windr: | hehe |
[12:39:56] | sid3windr: | boom. |
[12:40:02] | Ruleke: | I think it's copyrighted tbh |
[12:40:05] | cbx333: | Ruleke, what is ac3 passthrough? |
[12:40:20] | cbx333: | i just have a standard 5.1 SB Live |
[12:40:21] | hads: | The passing through of ac3... :) |
[12:40:23] | Ruleke: | I found it on the intarweb with a google |
[12:40:26] | crayzee: | cbx33, no idea. Guess so. 7.1 just works on my PC... not that I have 7.1 speakers. I have 2.1... |
[12:40:44] | sid3windr: | :) |
[12:40:45] | ** cbx333 has 5.1 and is pumping crappy stereo through them at the mo ** | |
[12:40:47] | sid3windr: | I have 5.1 on an sb live 5.1 |
[12:40:54] | sid3windr: | but I never tried if it works like it should |
[12:40:55] | cbx333: | sid3windr: with myth? |
[12:40:59] | cbx333: | haha |
[12:41:06] | cbx333: | guess that's what you wanted to test huh? |
[12:41:08] | sid3windr: | I just installed myth like 2 weeks ago |
[12:41:08] | sid3windr: | hehe |
[12:41:19] | sid3windr: | well, I havent tested with anything under linux =p |
[12:41:27] | cbx333: | oh i see |
[12:42:01] | crayzee: | cbx333, you said you had 3.5" jacks, right? If so, you don't want S/PDIF |
[12:42:21] | cbx333: | no |
[12:42:34] | cbx333: | i have 6 channels (5.1) of 3 jacks |
[12:42:42] | cbx333: | and 3 jacks into my speaker system |
[12:42:56] | cbx333: | so it'll work i just hope myth sorts it out for me ;) |
[12:42:59] | thylacine222: | What type of jacks? |
[12:43:03] | cbx333: | 3.5mm |
[12:43:07] | Zider: | jack sparrows? |
[12:43:28] | Ruleke: | 3pole :) |
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[12:43:56] | cbx333: | 3 stereo 3.5mm jacks |
[12:44:03] | cbx333: | = 6 channels |
[12:45:00] | Ruleke: | 5.1 "smart" connector setup |
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[12:45:33] | Ruleke: | weird :) |
[12:45:47] | cbx333: | so i hope it works ok |
[12:45:54] | thylacine222: | On-Board Connectors |
[12:45:54] | thylacine222: | Analog/Digital Out (Analog Center & Subwoofer/6-channel S-PDIF Output) |
[12:45:54] | thylacine222: | Line In |
[12:45:54] | thylacine222: | Microphone In |
[12:45:54] | thylacine222: | Line Level Out (front) / Headphone Out |
[12:45:55] | thylacine222: | Line Level Out (rear) |
[12:45:57] | thylacine222: | MIDI / Joystick port |
[12:45:59] | thylacine222: | Telephone Answering Device In |
[12:46:01] | thylacine222: | MPC-3 Analog CD Audio In |
[12:46:03] | thylacine222: | Digital CD Audio In |
[12:46:09] | thylacine222: | Whoah, did not mean for that to happen. |
[12:46:09] | hads: | Quit your pasting. |
[12:46:10] | jduggan_: | does this look like #pastebin? |
[12:46:19] | jduggan_: | :p |
[12:46:40] | Ruleke: | he's trying to flood us off to take ops ! oh sorry... 1995 ircnet flashback |
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[12:54:06] | crayzee: | 1995... Thats when I started programming my dad's ZX81... |
[12:56:49] | cbx333: | Ruleke, what did you mean by Smart setup ;) |
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[12:57:40] | cbx33: | thanks everyone.....this has to be one of the most useful channels I've visited in a while |
[12:58:42] | clever: | arg |
[12:58:47] | clever: | arg |
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[12:59:37] | cleverca: | arg |
[12:59:50] | cleverca: | my cable box stoped working with my ir blaster |
[13:00:21] | Ruleke: | cbx33: that's what they call it |
[13:00:49] | Ruleke: | cbx33: because you can switch the links to be front/rear/left/right etc from their line-in/line-out/mic config |
[13:01:51] | cbx33: | ahh i see |
[13:02:09] | cbx33: | well....I'm looking for a multi channel test file |
[13:02:13] | cbx33: | so i can test it |
[13:02:22] | cbx33: | I'll tinker with it tonight |
[13:02:33] | Ruleke: | you can find some online |
[13:02:36] | cbx33: | is alsamixer on knopmyth? |
[13:02:40] | Ruleke: | yes |
[13:02:54] | cbx33: | yeh i was just searching guess my googling keywords for multichannel linux audio test file |
[13:03:03] | cbx33: | arent't up to scratch ;) |
[13:03:09] | Ruleke: | they aren't really linux specific :P |
[13:03:16] | cbx33: | true |
[13:03:24] | cbx33: | what player do you play them in? |
[13:03:30] | Ruleke: | I used aplay myself iirc |
[13:03:31] | cbx33: | i mean what format of audio file has 5.1 |
[13:03:36] | Ruleke: | ah |
[13:03:37] | cbx33: | aplay? command line? |
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[13:03:44] | Ruleke: | I had a multichannel pcm file |
[13:03:47] | Ruleke: | .wav I think |
[13:03:51] | cbx33: | wow |
[13:03:55] | cbx33: | aplay played it? |
[13:04:00] | Ruleke: | iirc |
[13:04:08] | cbx33: | cool |
[13:04:08] | Ruleke: | so I think so :) |
[13:04:11] | ** cbx33 googles again ** | |
[13:04:52] | Ruleke: | I also downloaded one with some special effect, some helicopter flying circles or something like that |
[13:04:57] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v j-rod | |
[13:05:03] | Ruleke: | it must be somewhere on one of the boxes |
[13:05:07] | cbx33: | coooool |
[13:05:10] | cbx33: | if you find it |
[13:05:17] | cbx33: | and it's not license restricted that'd be so cool |
[13:05:25] | Ruleke: | not really motivated to go on the scavengehunt tbh :) |
[13:05:31] | Ruleke: | I think it is |
[13:05:34] | Ruleke: | even the test one |
[13:06:05] | Ruleke: | I also got one from microsoft but that wasn't playing properly |
[13:06:10] | Ruleke: | though it should |
[13:06:20] | Ruleke: | also pcm, but the bitrate was weird or something, I can't remember |
[13:06:29] | cbx33: | ok |
[13:07:04] | Ruleke: | also, I was looking for ac3 at the time, so try that |
[13:07:40] | Ruleke: | http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia . . . l.aspx#link6 |
[13:07:41] | Ruleke: | hehe |
[13:07:53] | Ruleke: | 'feel lucky' in google |
[13:08:06] | Ruleke: | you might not be lucky playign it though, so try some other ones |
[13:08:33] | Ruleke: | I had to extract them from the .exe, maybe I did that part wrong |
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[13:12:13] | Ruleke: | right, so has anyone done dvb teletext subtitles with myth before ? :) |
[13:13:05] | adante_: | hi.. um i'm no doubt 393932 years behind but anybody have any comments on linuxmce? |
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[13:14:03] | cbx33: | heheh Ruleke you're a sucker for tha hard stuff aren't you :p |
[13:14:15] | cbx33: | adante I have just writte nan article onit |
[13:14:35] | cbx33: | adante: http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=266 |
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[13:15:29] | adante_: | cbx33: how old is linuxmce? |
[13:15:46] | adante_: | also, can you explain how the file browsing interface works? |
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[13:17:38] | cbx33: | linuxmce for me was not mature enough |
[13:18:11] | cbx33: | it only came out about 10 days ago iirc |
[13:19:07] | adante_: | ui looks like it 'came out' in the 70's |
[13:19:29] | Ruleke: | hehe |
[13:20:04] | cbx33: | tbph the front ui....that is the overlay one is ok.... |
[13:20:08] | cbx33: | but as soon as you start using it |
[13:20:11] | cbx33: | I agree |
[13:21:22] | adante_: | well thanks for the info |
[13:21:28] | adante_: | any comments on the file browser? |
[13:21:31] | adante_: | if you got to use it |
[13:22:08] | cbx33: | clunky |
[13:24:43] | adante_: | righto |
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[13:46:48] | Kritter: | I hate it when there are 10 sets of documentation on something all different, none complete or current. |
[13:48:39] | Ruleke: | do you really ? |
[13:48:43] | cbx33: | hehe |
[13:48:48] | Ruleke: | really really HATE it ? |
[13:48:50] | cbx33: | thanks Ruleke I found one |
[13:48:54] | Ruleke: | takes a lot of effort |
[13:48:58] | cbx33: | but it only plays in vlc |
[13:49:06] | Ruleke: | cbx33: aww :) |
[13:49:20] | Ruleke: | I did cmdline aplay, because I also tested it when I was not there :) |
[13:49:38] | Ruleke: | via IM "did that sound right ?" |
[13:49:39] | Ruleke: | hehe |
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[13:50:42] | cbx33: | hahah |
[13:51:13] | cbx33: | darn it |
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[13:51:23] | cbx33: | though mplayer says it's a pcm file |
[13:51:28] | cbx33: | it doesn't play it |
[13:51:34] | cbx33: | vlc does |
[13:51:38] | cbx33: | but aplay says it isn't pcm |
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[13:54:12] | Ruleke: | I had something like that |
[13:54:19] | Ruleke: | I researched it |
[13:54:24] | cbx33: | oi :p |
[13:54:25] | cbx33: | hehe |
[13:54:35] | cbx33: | i just found a nice wmv, that has surround on it |
[13:54:59] | Ruleke: | yer, I don't remember what exactly, but it turned out to be the file |
[13:55:10] | Ruleke: | ac3 stuff, I really don't recall |
[13:55:13] | cbx33: | does knopmyth have the w32 codecs |
[13:55:15] | cbx33: | ? |
[13:55:19] | cbx33: | or can they be instaled? |
[13:56:18] | Ruleke: | what are w32 codecs ? |
[13:56:24] | Ruleke: | I use the internal mythtv player |
[13:56:29] | cbx33: | so i can play wmv |
[13:56:37] | Zider: | Ruleke: the windows dll codec pack from mplayer |
[13:56:43] | Ruleke: | no idea |
[13:57:03] | Ruleke: | I don't like mplayer much ever since I got to know the attitude of the developer(s) |
[13:57:05] | Ruleke: | call me petty |
[13:57:15] | Zider: | hehe |
[13:57:17] | cbx33: | no that's fine |
[13:57:20] | frink_: | /whois #freely |
[13:57:23] | cbx33: | i just wanna play a wmv on mythtv |
[13:57:23] | frink_: | oops |
[13:58:07] | GreyFoxx: | any particular reason you can'y use the Internal myth player? |
[13:58:14] | cbx33: | no reason at all |
[13:58:15] | GreyFoxx: | I use it to watch WMV files all the time |
[13:58:22] | cbx33: | ok cool |
[13:58:27] | GreyFoxx: | of course, I use it to watch pretty much everything |
[13:58:41] | Zider: | not me. |
[13:58:52] | Zider: | you can't watch me with mythtv ;) |
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[13:59:15] | Ruleke: | you're only on Pay per view |
[13:59:19] | Zider: | yes |
[13:59:22] | Zider: | wait, no |
[13:59:24] | Ruleke: | :P |
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[13:59:39] | Ruleke: | omg I found the goatse man ;) |
[13:59:42] | Zider: | ;) |
[13:59:43] | Ruleke: | zider ! |
[13:59:48] | Ruleke: | :-P |
[14:00:07] | Zider: | well, I am from .se (sweden), and goats are cute.. so, goat-se.. yeah.. ;) |
[14:00:22] | Ruleke: | thank god you didn't get the reference |
[14:00:24] | ** Ruleke hides ** | |
[14:00:34] | Zider: | I did. |
[14:00:34] | Zider: | :) |
[14:00:46] | Ruleke: | I know |
[14:00:47] | Zider: | I know full well what goatse is :) |
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[14:04:49] | kantlivelong: | anyone here use mythmusic |
[14:08:29] | Zider: | yes |
[14:08:33] | The_Ball: | kantlivelong, i have used it a little |
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[14:10:34] | kantlivelong: | The_Ball: i try playing a track and it just freeze.. |
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[14:14:45] | The_Ball: | kantlivelong, i haven't had that happen |
[14:15:09] | kantlivelong: | interesting.. |
[14:15:22] | kantlivelong: | what version of myth are u using? |
[14:17:12] | kantlivelong: | its odd it wont even find my songs |
[14:17:34] | gbee: | kantlivelong: there is a know bug causing a crash when playing files of different types e.g. aac/ogg/mp3/cd |
[14:17:37] | The_Ball: | thta might be the problemn |
[14:17:44] | kantlivelong: | hmmm |
[14:18:03] | kantlivelong: | im using 0.20 |
[14:19:44] | at0m|c: | hi, i often have to manually restart the mythtv-backend, like after selecting "Watch TV", which doesn't work yet |
[14:19:57] | at0m|c: | any idea's on how i can avoid these manual restarts? |
[14:20:25] | kantlivelong: | also does the enx-15 work on myth at all? |
[14:20:34] | at0m|c: | running mythtv backend on a plain debian testing system w pvr350 |
[14:22:21] | at0m|c: | also, i noticed knoppmyth has lirc-reconfig.sh and setup_350.sh scripts. afaik i configured mythtv quite ok, but can't access the tuner yet. is there a way to install/run these scripts on debian, or do something similar? |
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[14:45:20] | kantlivelong: | im gettin this error from mythtv Error opening audio device (), the error was: No such file or directory |
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[14:52:05] | crayzee: | setup->setup->general->page 3 |
[15:00:19] | tts: | whats the best wy to wake the backend and show down when not it use ? |
[15:00:46] | tts: | im looking at this and sems too complicated http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Wake_On_LAN_Router |
[15:01:06] | Dagmar: | You can do wakeup timers if your motherboard supports that |
[15:02:33] | tts: | itsa realy old pc |
[15:03:06] | tts: | but it has the cable from the Ethernet to the motherboard |
[15:03:18] | tts: | make sense ? |
[15:04:44] | Dagmar: | There are docs on how to do it |
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[15:05:26] | tts: | ok |
[15:05:31] | Dagmar: | And the "better" way is to not use Wake-On-LAN because something *else* has to know when to wake up the backend |
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[15:05:39] | Dagmar: | The backend has the stuff needed to be able to shut down |
[15:05:54] | tts: | but will i have to wol manauly each time ? |
[15:06:36] | tts: | Dagmar:if wol works i will wake the server myself |
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[15:06:59] | tts: | im just worried about recordings ,will it wake up to start them ? |
[15:08:07] | kantlivelong: | DAMNIT ALL |
[15:08:21] | kantlivelong: | IT STILL DOESNT USE MY AUDIO GRR |
[15:08:42] | kantlivelong: | gonna blow this thing up |
[15:09:20] | tts: | i really like the mythtv-welcome idea :) |
[15:10:48] | kantlivelong: | mythtv keeps complaining saying theres no audio device! |
[15:11:18] | tts: | can you use the sound device on other applications? |
[15:11:25] | kantlivelong: | yes mplayer works fine |
[15:11:29] | tts: | did you set it up on mythtv |
[15:11:33] | tts: | asp1 |
[15:11:35] | tts: | asp |
[15:11:40] | kantlivelong: | yep its set to alsa |
[15:11:40] | tts: | try them all |
[15:11:49] | kantlivelong: | theres no device option |
[15:11:50] | tts: | change it |
[15:12:03] | tts: | there is |
[15:12:04] | kantlivelong: | theres only alsa |
[15:12:13] | tts: | change the asp |
[15:12:29] | tts: | do you have a pci sound card? |
[15:12:40] | kantlivelong: | no its internal but yes its using alsas PCI drivers |
[15:13:02] | kantlivelong: | all i see is a passthru ooutput dev and thats alsa |
[15:13:21] | tts: | look on the "dev" section |
[15:13:29] | kantlivelong: | dev section? |
[15:13:42] | kantlivelong: | of what |
[15:14:01] | tts: | mythtfront end setup |
[15:14:20] | kantlivelong: | im in setup |
[15:14:25] | kantlivelong: | general right |
[15:14:26] | kantlivelong: | ? |
[15:14:46] | tts: | ok navigate to the sound stuff |
[15:15:02] | tts: | yes general |
[15:15:16] | kantlivelong: | k @ Audio |
[15:15:33] | tts: | wait i will open up mythfront too |
[15:15:58] | kantlivelong: | k |
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[15:16:03] | tts: | actually i cant im at the backend |
[15:16:08] | tts: | sorry |
[15:16:15] | kantlivelong: | at the backend? |
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[15:16:18] | tts: | forgot :) |
[15:16:24] | kantlivelong: | i have backend running too.. |
[15:16:35] | tts: | on same pc ? |
[15:16:42] | kantlivelong: | how else would u do it? |
[15:18:08] | kantlivelong: | makes no sense |
[15:18:15] | kantlivelong: | says in frontend i cant connect to backend |
[15:18:20] | kantlivelong: | so dont need backend? |
[15:18:25] | tts: | you do |
[15:18:32] | kantlivelong: | im confused then |
[15:18:33] | tts: | here let me help you , |
[15:19:18] | tts: | paste this sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop |
[15:19:30] | tts: | then this sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
[15:19:47] | kantlivelong: | i dont even use the init scripts |
[15:19:56] | tts: | oh god |
[15:20:04] | kantlivelong: | they dont work |
[15:20:07] | tts: | what do you use |
[15:20:19] | kantlivelong: | backend on the proper user |
[15:20:23] | tts: | im a noob myself you see |
[15:20:32] | tts: | yes that right |
[15:20:45] | tts: | i used to do that too ,ubuntu ? |
[15:20:50] | kantlivelong: | gentoo |
[15:20:54] | kantlivelong: | the init script sucks |
[15:21:10] | tts: | ahhhhhhhhh i dont know what gentoo is |
[15:21:18] | kantlivelong: | makes no sense |
[15:21:41] | tts: | you need to find out how to start the beckend |
[15:21:57] | tts: | and also make sure it is running |
[15:22:30] | kantlivelong: | yeah just type backend;| |
[15:22:49] | tts: | ok ,to check ? |
[15:22:56] | kantlivelong: | hmm? |
[15:23:02] | tts: | ls backend;| |
[15:23:08] | kantlivelong: | ... |
[15:23:20] | kantlivelong: | god damnit mythtv |
[15:23:26] | kantlivelong: | bout to use freakin freevo |
[15:23:28] | tts: | how do you check if it actually started successfully |
[15:23:34] | kantlivelong: | ps aux :) |
[15:23:50] | tts: | did it start |
[15:23:54] | kantlivelong: | yeah |
[15:24:11] | tts: | ok did you remeber to run the mythtv-setup |
[15:24:15] | kantlivelong: | yeah |
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[15:24:20] | tts: | and setup your tv cards |
[15:24:26] | kantlivelong: | no tv tuner yet |
[15:24:31] | kantlivelong: | i just want freakin music player |
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[15:25:09] | tts: | i know that the music player om mythtv is really not that good |
[15:25:27] | kantlivelong: | yeah well it cant open the audo device |
[15:25:34] | tts: | IMHO |
[15:25:35] | kantlivelong: | so i doubt mythtv can |
[15:26:36] | tts: | well have you tryed |
[15:26:46] | tts: | chaging the cards like i said |
[15:27:01] | zooy0rk: | i know that tuner cards with hardware decoding have inherent lag but I was wondering if older cards (maybe bttv) still have this issue, does anyone know? |
[15:28:31] | kantlivelong: | tts: theres only 1 to choose from |
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[15:35:40] | tts: | kantlivelong:whats that |
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[15:36:33] | kantlivelong: | tts: just an alsa device |
[15:36:42] | kantlivelong: | damn mythmusic theres gotta be something better |
[15:37:49] | tts: | yeh i would say try some other app as long as you dont really plan on using tv ,mythtv is the best for tv |
[15:38:27] | tts: | im sure its some thing to do with the selected device im mythtv |
[15:38:30] | tts: | in* |
[15:39:25] | kantlivelong: | i plan on using tv soon but this music player is just trash |
[15:39:56] | tts: | i know its very very new |
[15:40:24] | tts: | still in dev , unless I'm very much mistaken |
[15:40:28] | kantlivelong: | heh |
[15:40:43] | kantlivelong: | bleh now i gotta uninstall myth |
[15:40:44] | kantlivelong: | damnit all |
[15:40:56] | kantlivelong: | or ill leave it |
[15:40:57] | kantlivelong: | idk |
[15:41:39] | tts: | good luck |
[15:41:48] | kantlivelong: | ty |
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[15:43:40] | onewheelskyward: | The entire project is still in dev, actually. :) |
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[15:46:40] | tts: | nice to know |
[15:46:54] | tts: | any one know how to back up this file hwclock.sh- |
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[15:47:21] | tts: | found it sudo cp /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh hwclock.sh.bak |
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[15:56:48] | spiderworm: | Can anyone help me with a compile error: http://pastebin.ca/410665 |
[15:57:10] | spiderworm: | ../../libs/libavformat/libmythavformat-0.20.so: undefined reference to `voc_get_packet' |
[15:57:18] | spiderworm: | ../../libs/libavformat/libmythavformat-0.20.so: undefined reference to `get_wav_header' |
[15:57:25] | spiderworm: | ../../libs/libavformat/libmythavformat-0.20.so: undefined reference to `wav_codec_get_id' |
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[16:14:06] | gbee: | xris: did you figure out the album art problems with mythweb? |
[16:15:11] | xris: | ? |
[16:15:33] | xris: | your utf8 patch or whatever it was fixed it |
[16:17:34] | gbee: | ahh ok, I'd forgotten what was wrong and whether anything remained to be fixed |
[16:18:21] | xris: | I think it's all fixed. |
[16:18:28] | xris: | haven't messed with it since we last talked, though |
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[16:27:53] | Neeesat25: | Hello to all |
[16:28:53] | Neeesat25: | I have been using kde as Desktop manager but it is very painfull for the pc and myth. Is there a suggestion for any other? |
[16:29:31] | onewheelskyward: | I use gnome, personally. |
[16:29:35] | Neeesat25: | I have try fluxbox but I have problem auto starting mythtv at boot up |
[16:29:38] | onewheelskyward: | What kind of problems are you having with KDE? |
[16:29:47] | Neeesat25: | no problems at all |
[16:30:11] | Neeesat25: | just it is to big and takes more time to load and needs more ram |
[16:30:20] | Neeesat25: | to = too |
[16:30:36] | onewheelskyward: | Ah. Gnome is probably in the same category, then. |
[16:30:44] | Neeesat25: | yes |
[16:30:53] | Neeesat25: | I was using gnome in the past |
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[16:31:31] | Neeesat25: | I like fluxbox but I dono how to autostart mythtv etc |
[16:32:27] | Neeesat25: | no desktop manager? |
[16:32:36] | spiderworm: | no desktop manager |
[16:32:50] | spiderworm: | its easy too... just create an xsessions file in /usr/share/xsessions |
[16:33:00] | spiderworm: | it should work for gdm as well tho i havent tried it out |
[16:33:23] | Neeesat25: | and you have a command in xsession to autostart mythtv? |
[16:34:53] | spiderworm: | http://pastebin.ca/410706 is the text of /usr/share/xsessions/mythfrontend.desktop |
[16:35:19] | onewheelskyward: | Simple, efficient, effective. I like it. |
[16:35:43] | cleverca: | mythwelcome shows the time as 1:35 am |
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[16:36:05] | spiderworm: | and i configured kdm to autologin user mythtv to their default desktop (in this case, mythfrontend) after a couple seconds delay in kdm (in case some other user needed to log in) |
[16:36:26] | spiderworm: | so i can still log in and start gnome or kde, as can my wife |
[16:36:31] | cleverca: | date |
[16:36:44] | spiderworm: | sometimes its fun having a 52 inch computer monitor :) |
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[16:36:56] | cbx33: | Hey guys I'm back |
[16:37:02] | cbx33: | say someone has a USB stick |
[16:37:05] | cbx33: | with a wmv on it |
[16:37:13] | onewheelskyward: | Good lord. Got it hooked up to your massive flat panel, eh? |
[16:37:15] | cbx33: | and they want knoppmyth to view it |
[16:37:23] | cbx33: | how??? |
[16:37:25] | cbx33: | :p |
[16:37:54] | Neeesat25: | spiderworm: I just add that to xsession file and it starts mythfrontend and mythbackend? |
[16:38:08] | adante_: | cbx33: i am not a knoppmyth expert, but i achieved similar functionality with my cdrom drive using automount and then symlinking the directory into my video share directory |
[16:38:18] | spiderworm: | Neeesat25: no just frontend, starting backend you do with files in /etc/init.d/ |
[16:38:23] | adante_: | it is somewhat roundabout but works |
[16:38:30] | cbx33: | adante_ hmmm ok |
[16:38:34] | cbx33: | will try taht |
[16:38:45] | spiderworm: | Neeesat25: more than likely your system is already configured to start mythbackend on boot |
[16:38:51] | Neeesat25: | oh ok mythbackend can run from command line so thats not a problem |
[16:39:55] | Neeesat25: | Thanks man I will try it out. I am installing kdm at the momment |
[16:40:02] | spiderworm: | :) |
[16:40:41] | spiderworm: | anyone know how to fix undefined reference errors when compiling myth? |
[16:40:52] | cbx33: | hmmm adante_ no files found |
[16:41:05] | cbx33: | do i have to do something to knopmyth for it to be able to recognise wmv? |
[16:41:07] | spiderworm: | im no programming guru unfortunately |
[16:41:08] | onewheelskyward: | spiderworm: pastebin? |
[16:41:19] | spiderworm: | http://pastebin.ca/410665 |
[16:41:20] | adante_: | cbx33: might need to rebuild video list cache (or tell it not to use it) |
[16:41:38] | cbx33: | I just put it on a CD and put the disc in the drive |
[16:41:46] | cbx33: | there is a symlink to it iirc |
[16:41:49] | spiderworm: | onewheelskyward: trying to compile the 0.20 fixes svn checkout btw |
[16:42:01] | adante_: | cbx33: and it mounted correctly? |
[16:42:06] | spiderworm: | onewheelskyward: only configure flag was --prefix=/usr |
[16:42:09] | onewheelskyward: | yeah ... was there a 0.20-fixes source release? |
[16:42:25] | spiderworm: | onewheelskyward: i downloaded the tarball and the same problem occurs |
[16:42:32] | onewheelskyward: | weird. |
[16:42:49] | spiderworm: | do you know if there is a recommended gcc version? |
[16:42:53] | onewheelskyward: | Do you have the ffmpeg devel headers installed? |
[16:43:06] | cbx33: | hmmm possibly not |
[16:43:10] | cbx33: | just putting it back in again |
[16:43:20] | cbx33: | no it didn't mount |
[16:43:31] | onewheelskyward: | I do not know about gcc versions, which one are you running? |
[16:43:53] | adante_: | cbx33: ok.. i actually meant you need to setup automount to achieve that :] |
[16:43:56] | spiderworm: | im on ubuntu and i have the libavformat-dev package installed, is that good enough? |
[16:44:17] | spiderworm: | gcc --version shows gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20060928 |
[16:44:46] | spiderworm: | iirc the libav libraries are for ffmpeg? |
[16:44:58] | cbx33: | oh ok |
[16:45:00] | onewheelskyward: | I can't recall. |
[16:45:01] | cbx33: | mopunted manually |
[16:45:26] | onewheelskyward: | I was going to give the compile a shot. |
[16:48:14] | cbx33: | how do i rebuild the video cache |
[16:48:21] | cbx33: | just copied the file to the videos folder |
[16:48:35] | cbx33: | to /myth/videos/ |
[16:48:44] | cbx33: | but it still doesn't pick it up |
[16:48:51] | xris: | cbx33: utils menu |
[16:49:00] | xris: | it'll scan when you go into the video section |
[16:49:42] | cbx33: | coool |
[16:49:44] | cbx33: | thanks |
[16:52:05] | cbx33: | argh no sound |
[16:53:38] | onewheelskyward: | heh...I can't compile the source either, spiderworm, but I think it's my QT install. |
[16:54:16] | spiderworm: | onewheelskyward: you're having the same problem, or similar? |
[16:55:02] | onewheelskyward: | Nah I get errors like 'no matching function QRadioButton::etcetc' I think it's trying to link against QT4. |
[16:55:52] | gbee: | has anyone got any mp3s which have a POPM frame in the ID3v2 tag? Or know of any linux audio tools which set that information? |
[16:56:05] | spiderworm: | hmmm darn |
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[16:58:00] | onewheelskyward: | I found that source compile/installs work best when you source compile all of the dependent packages. |
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[17:01:58] | Neeesat25: | spiderworm: How you run kdm configuration window to setup autologin for mythtv? |
[17:02:33] | spiderworm: | Neeesat25: in kde, control panel |
[17:02:37] | spiderworm: | one sec |
[17:03:09] | spiderworm: | in the control panel, look for Login Manager |
[17:03:15] | Neeesat25: | I dont have kde installed |
[17:03:17] | GreyFoxx: | Is this a dedicated mythbox since it's auto logging in? |
[17:03:27] | spiderworm: | then click the big Administrator Mode button |
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[17:05:39] | spiderworm: | Neeesat25: oh, hmm... one sec.... let me see what my conf files say |
[17:05:49] | Neeesat25: | ok |
[17:06:08] | GreyFoxx: | Neeesat25: You can use xdm which doesn't require kde or gnome, or just don't use one and start X from your init scripts |
[17:06:13] | spiderworm: | its true... if you dont want to have kdm or gnome on there, you'll only be using mythtv, then there's no need for a login manager |
[17:06:54] | Neeesat25: | How you set it to autologin then? |
[17:06:58] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.pastebin.ca/410749 |
[17:07:01] | Dagmar: | You don't |
[17:07:07] | GreyFoxx: | I have that at the end of my rc.local |
[17:07:08] | Dagmar: | Logins are a fiction in the first place. |
[17:07:17] | GreyFoxx: | it launches X as the mythtv user |
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[17:07:26] | GreyFoxx: | my window manager (IceWM) auto starts mythfrontend |
[17:07:47] | Dagmar: | I've got MythTV's frontend as the default thing for runlevel 5 on mine |
[17:08:07] | Dagmar: | That way if I need to I can shell in and telinit 3 to kill it and then back to 5 to restart it when I'm working on things. |
[17:08:45] | Neeesat25: | So you have x-windows plus IceWM as window manager with no login manager. Correct? |
[17:08:53] | GreyFoxx: | Neeesat25: In my case, yes |
[17:09:12] | GreyFoxx: | rc.local starts X, X starts IceWM, IceWM launches myth |
[17:10:07] | Neeesat25: | I see, as mythtv user |
[17:10:19] | Neeesat25: | So I am going to need a window manager |
[17:10:36] | GreyFoxx: | It's recommended to use a window manager with myth |
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[17:11:05] | GreyFoxx: | If myth has to launch anything external. video players, emulators, custom menu items, etc |
[17:11:36] | GreyFoxx: | It's why I use IceWM, it's small, low resource usage |
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[17:14:30] | Neeesat25: | hmm I have just install it and ofcaurse I have add the last lines in rc.local as you mentioned |
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[17:18:40] | gbee: | ok, going OT a little here but does anyone know how to get Amarok to write id3v2 tags? I found an old post via google which says there is an option in the general settings – but I can't find it |
[17:18:42] | Neeesat25: | I just want to have PC more relaxed when using mythtv |
[17:19:53] | Neeesat25: | I do not have authorization as mythtv to use x server so it does not autologin |
[17:21:06] | GreyFoxx: | spiderworm: If you don't use any externally spawned apps it can be fine |
[17:21:25] | GreyFoxx: | but if you use game emulators, spawn other apps for dvd or video playback you are begging for focus isssues |
[17:21:55] | spiderworm: | GreyFoxx: yeah, i dont use those.... i use dvd playback, but the one bundled with myth now |
[17:22:01] | Neeesat25: | GreyFoxx: you mean when using kde or gnome? |
[17:22:16] | GreyFoxx: | No, when not using a window manager at all you can have focus problems |
[17:22:35] | Neeesat25: | I am using lots of game emus |
[17:22:48] | GreyFoxx: | then you want a WM of somesort at least |
[17:23:34] | Neeesat25: | yes thats what I have installed but it seems my user does not have authorizatrion using X |
[17:23:50] | clever: | 209: 3696400 IO-APIC-level bttv0, eth0 |
[17:23:59] | clever: | i think my net card and tv card are sharing int's |
[17:24:27] | clever: | and that may cause problems when trying to record and use a high ammount of network bandwidth |
[17:27:36] | Neeesat25: | Anyway I will have to see how to give authorization to my user tommorow. Thanks for all the help |
[17:28:17] | Neeesat25: | Have a good night to all |
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[17:29:39] | cbx33: | do i need to manually install libdvdcss on mythtv? |
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[17:30:30] | cbx33: | it says it can't read the dvd |
[17:32:08] | GreyFoxx: | cbx33: If you want to watch a Commercial DVD then you would need libdvdcss |
[17:32:16] | cbx33: | ah ok |
[17:33:01] | cbx33: | grrr |
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[17:40:33] | cbx33: | hmm |
[17:40:38] | cbx33: | still says source cannot be read |
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[17:45:47] | juski: | hi ho |
[17:46:01] | akifdino: | can i do the channel editing with mythweb? |
[17:46:09] | juski: | done fitting my new car stereo. it sounds nice :) |
[17:46:17] | juski: | akifdino: of course you can |
[17:46:31] | juski: | back up your database incase you screw them all up though |
[17:46:48] | akifdino: | juski: ;-) i mean deleting and editing channels? |
[17:46:51] | juski: | but you're no doubt already aware you should back up your db anyway! |
[17:46:58] | akifdino: | juski: yes |
[17:47:00] | akifdino: | ;-) |
[17:47:11] | juski: | with mythweb you can do all sorts of fuddling |
[17:47:24] | juski: | deleting, renumbering, change freqids, you name it |
[17:47:38] | akifdino: | ohhh |
[17:47:47] | juski: | the only thing you can't do is change DVB parameters |
[17:47:51] | akifdino: | also sorting? |
[17:47:54] | juski: | nah |
[17:48:04] | juski: | you can't do sorting |
[17:48:21] | juski: | I'm sure a simple bit of mysql would sort a table for you though |
[17:48:21] | akifdino: | like placing related channels together? |
[17:48:40] | juski: | just change their channel numbers |
[17:49:04] | juski: | I tried arguing for a channel 'group' column a while back |
[17:49:26] | juski: | the counter-argument was that mythtv is about *programmes* not channels |
[17:49:58] | juski: | both sides are valid arguments but since I can't write a line of code guess who rightly lost? ;) |
[17:50:06] | hjohnson: | what about htose of us who just mindlessly flip? |
[17:50:17] | juski: | hjohnson: er.. fuck you guys? ;) |
[17:50:26] | gbee: | actually I've got a ticket to add channel groups and when I get the time I intend to implement it |
[17:50:44] | juski: | gbee: nigh swan :) |
[17:51:27] | juski: | I was never angling for groups for myself – just thought it'd make life easier for those who still graze |
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[17:52:39] | gbee: | does no-one use amarok? :( |
[17:53:08] | juski: | I did for a while |
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[17:53:23] | juski: | til I found out how limiting linux on my particular desktop is |
[17:53:52] | jams: | i did, but i found it to be overkill. xmms and mythmusic do the job just fine. |
[17:54:55] | juski: | while I was still ubuntu-ing on my frontend I toyed with the idea of trying xmms |
[17:55:00] | jduggan_: | linux limiting? |
[17:55:10] | jduggan_: | thats like, an oxymoron |
[17:55:18] | juski: | jduggan_: no *serious* photo or video editors for linux |
[17:55:24] | gbee: | I'm just looking for something that will write POPM frames – right now though I can't get it to write anything other than ID3v1 tags |
[17:55:41] | gbee: | there is supposed to be an option to make it write id3v2 but I can't find it |
[17:56:09] | doc|home: | juski: if linux is good enough for dreamworks, i think it should be good enough for you |
[17:56:19] | juski: | doc|home: yeah but they don't use FOSS apps |
[17:56:34] | juski: | GIMP is credited for some work but come on.. ffs |
[17:56:38] | doc|home: | juski: they use a miz, gimp for one |
[17:56:41] | doc|home: | *mix |
[17:56:53] | juski: | gimp sucks arse, badly |
[17:56:58] | doc|home: | juski: language |
[17:57:06] | doc|home: | now can we get back on-topic please? |
[17:57:10] | gbee: | no |
[17:57:18] | juski: | for the average person, I'm sure gimp is just fine & dandy |
[17:57:23] | doc|home: | juski: topic please |
[17:57:24] | gbee: | ;) |
[17:57:29] | juski: | doc|home: sssh |
[17:58:02] | juski: | hey so next time the topic wanders onto lvm vs raid vs nonraid, vs whatever, I'll just yell TOPIC! |
[17:58:24] | doc|home: | you're ranting about stuff :) |
[17:58:35] | juski: | that's what I do |
[17:58:46] | juski: | if you're not comfortable with that just add me to your ignore list |
[17:59:13] | doc|home: | ah, a troll. |
[17:59:35] | juski: | who the hell are you to call me a troll may I ask? |
[18:00:03] | doc|home: | I'm someone who didn't use a question about amarok to start on a rant |
[18:00:37] | juski: | okay then. I still don't care |
[18:01:21] | akifdino: | i've one channel here called pro7, this is the only channel i can not receive. this channel was also scanned by mythtv as the rest. when i switch to this channel nothing happens mythfrontend says prebuffering pause |
[18:01:43] | juski: | akifdino: is it free to air? |
[18:01:55] | akifdino: | it hase a base encryption but free for everyone |
[18:02:03] | akifdino: | it is on dvb cable |
[18:02:31] | tts: | how do i find out my sql password please guys |
[18:02:37] | juski: | I think we used to watch a show called 'tutti fruiti' on Pro7 many moons ago – I'd not miss it much tbh |
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[18:05:39] | juski: | my cable-co supplied STB takes longer than that to change channel |
[18:05:42] | akifdino: | juski: but the receiver *cheep from my provider* is far quicker |
[18:06:24] | juski: | akifdino: that's life. There's talk about improving mythtv's channel change times even further but that's not a high priority right now AFAIK |
[18:06:30] | ** juski goes to eat ** | |
[18:07:48] | GreyFoxx: | akifdino: Myth also is spooling data to the disk sending it over and IP socket to be played back with some small buffering |
[18:08:10] | GreyFoxx: | So, if it are getting 1 second changes, that's considered good |
[18:08:37] | akifdino: | GreyFoxx: mythtv is great, i like it and i of course can live with it. |
[18:09:07] | GreyFoxx: | I'm not trying to "Defend" myth. Just explaining the difference between regular STB channel changes and myth channel changes :) |
[18:09:45] | akifdino: | GreyFoxx: i understand, no i was just expressing how much i like mythtv |
[18:09:48] | GreyFoxx: | Some poor souls see horrible (like 6 seconds) change times :) |
[18:10:02] | GreyFoxx: | unfortunately none of them are devs or can provide enough info to find out the cause |
[18:10:16] | akifdino: | GreyFoxx: no, maybe sometimes it goes over a second but not more than 2 secons here |
[18:15:10] | akifdino: | i've a remote control with a "i" button on it, what could a place into this button in order to make proper use of it with mythtv? |
[18:15:31] | thylacine222: | Program info? |
[18:15:37] | hjohnson: | akifdino: hmm... program info or news headlines? |
[18:15:44] | thylacine222: | Is it the PVR-150 remote? |
[18:15:47] | akifdino: | thylacine222: uyy program info, which button is it |
[18:16:08] | akifdino: | thylacine222: it is a remote control from technotrend which came with the c1500 dvb-c card |
[18:16:11] | thylacine222: | If I´m not mistaken, info is I. |
[18:16:43] | thylacine222: | I just set up my remote, and info was defaulted to i. |
[18:17:46] | akifdino: | thylacine222: the i button gives me the position |
[18:18:17] | thylacine222: | Ok. |
[18:18:37] | akifdino: | thylacine222: how does the program info look like? |
[18:18:55] | thylacine222: | I´m actually not sure there is a dedicated program info thing. |
[18:19:05] | akifdino: | mhh, i've never seen it |
[18:19:06] | thylacine222: | It just shows up when you browse channels |
[18:19:35] | thylacine222: | Hold on, let me check really quick. |
[18:19:40] | akifdino: | i see, that tine page on botton of the screen with a small summy? would be good to have it. but why is it not on button i here |
[18:19:43] | akifdino: | ok |
[18:19:47] | akifdino: | thylacine222: thank you |
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[18:23:32] | juski: | http://mythtv.indiegigs.co.uk/ – interesting idea, be nice if it doesn't get spammed |
[18:24:16] | akifdino: | juski: what does it do? |
[18:24:49] | juski: | looks like it submits what you record to a server, and then it suggests other shows you might like based on what other people's systems have uploaded |
[18:24:53] | thylacine222: | akifdino: I know why I bound the i button to I. If you press I twice, then you get program info. |
[18:25:05] | akifdino: | thylacine222: mom, i'll try it |
[18:25:34] | akifdino: | thylacine222: you are right, but how does it need to be programmed then |
[18:26:00] | juski: | akifdino: in your lircrc file of course :) |
[18:26:12] | akifdino: | juski: yes, but how do i program double key presses |
[18:26:26] | juski: | I don't think you need to |
[18:27:46] | thylacine222: | Yeah, you´ll have to press twice. |
[18:28:10] | thylacine222: | There might be a way to not have to press twice in the TV options. |
[18:28:41] | akifdino: | you are right, on the remote it also works with double press |
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[18:30:58] | akifdino: | can i also program a key that it switches from tv mode to music mode? |
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[18:31:34] | thylacine222: | You can program a button that jumps from anything to music mode. |
[18:32:02] | akifdino: | how can i find out which config option music for example is? |
[18:32:20] | juski: | they're called jump points |
[18:32:47] | thylacine222: | You don´t need to, just bind the music key on your remote to some F-key, say F16, and then go to Options/Edit Keys/Jump Points/MythMusic |
[18:33:40] | spiderworm: | anyone know what to do to clear out the Theme settings and get frontend to use the default theme? |
[18:34:16] | thylacine222: | spiderworm: Can you just switch the theme to GANT? |
[18:34:36] | thylacine222: | *Can´t |
[18:34:53] | spiderworm: | thylacine222: i cant get into mythfrontend to switch the theme |
[18:35:39] | juski: | mythfrontend --help will reveal a --reset option |
[18:36:08] | juski: | that will reset the theme & the GUI size & window options |
[18:37:26] | spiderworm: | getting "Cannot find theme" error still |
[18:38:06] | thylacine222: | Maybe the themes aren´t installed? |
[18:38:48] | juski: | try running 'which mythfrontend' – that will tell you if the path starts with /usr/local or just /usr |
[18:39:11] | echosyp: | can mythtv auto-mute on commercials |
[18:39:20] | juski: | if it starts with /usr/ then your themes should live in /usr/share/mythtv/themes otherwise they'll need to be in /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes |
[18:39:31] | echosyp: | i know it can skip them, but i like to do stuff on commercials |
[18:39:36] | juski: | echosyp: nope |
[18:39:43] | echosyp: | crap |
[18:39:47] | juski: | echosyp: ever heard of 'pause' ? |
[18:39:59] | spiderworm: | which mythfrontend shows /usr/bin/mythfrontend and themes are in /usr/share/mythtv/themes |
[18:40:05] | thylacine222: | Echosyp: or mute.. |
[18:40:13] | juski: | spiderworm: that's your problem then |
[18:40:18] | echosyp: | that was stupid |
[18:40:40] | spiderworm: | it is? |
[18:40:52] | juski: | echosyp: some might say wanting to NOT skip commercials & mute the sound is stupid... far be it from me to cast aspersions though |
[18:40:56] | akifdino: | thylacine222: do you have a sort of refresh button on your remote? |
[18:41:04] | thylacine222: | Nope |
[18:41:13] | spiderworm: | juski: i dont understand how that's my problem? |
[18:41:16] | juski: | spiderworm: yeah mythfrontend will be looking in /usr/share not /usr/local/share |
[18:41:27] | thylacine222: | I have the PVR-150 remote, different than yours |
[18:41:32] | spiderworm: | juski: thats where i said the themes are |
[18:41:34] | echosyp: | i was talking to thylacine222 |
[18:41:42] | juski: | spiderworm: oops, sorry! |
[18:41:48] | spiderworm: | np |
[18:41:51] | echosyp: | asking if iv ever heardd of mute when i just said "auto-mute" |
[18:42:20] | juski: | spiderworm: it might still be using a prefix of /usr/local & looking in /usr/local/share – I can't remember why that'd happen though |
[18:43:09] | thylacine222: | Echosyp: Yes, I realized that you had heard of mute. |
[18:44:32] | spiderworm: | juski i had a bunch of *myth* files in /usr/local/lib that i got rid of and that seemed to clear up the problem.... |
[18:44:40] | spiderworm: | probably left over from an old install |
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[18:47:15] | echosyp: | the whole point of what i asked (not that your understaning is required) is that i can use the natural breaks in a show to do things like, homework or cook |
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[18:47:49] | juski: | kind of defeats the whole object doesn't it? |
[18:48:13] | juski: | shape tv around your life with mythtv, not the other way around ;) |
[18:48:40] | juski: | anyway I already said you can't auto-mute the audio, so end of story on this one |
[18:48:58] | gbee: | echosyp: to answer your question, no mythtv can't do that – not because it wouldn't be easy to implement but because there is the demand for it |
[18:49:06] | gbee: | isn't |
[18:49:17] | juski: | and like the 'insert other material during commercials' idea people had a while ago, there's likely too little demand to get it done |
[18:49:26] | echosyp: | i get it, the smart ass comments however were not necessary |
[18:49:42] | juski: | course they were – this is IRC |
[18:49:52] | thylacine222: | Echosyp: I apologize, I´m kinda pissed off right now. |
[18:49:54] | echosyp: | especially bad ones |
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[18:50:17] | kormoc: | echosyp, http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Wh . . . .2Fdirect.3F |
[18:50:20] | echosyp: | its cool, |
[18:50:38] | gbee: | mythtv already has too many settings, so unfortunately adding even more for little used features doesn't go over well – sorry |
[18:50:49] | juski: | gbee: amen! |
[18:51:02] | echosyp: | haha |
[18:51:32] | juski: | I'm holding off on doing my screenshot of every single menu screen project for a while |
[18:51:52] | juski: | I tried once before but got dreadfully bored after 160 images |
[18:52:42] | juski: | just think though – with a veritable library/index of screenshots we can point out to users exactly where they are |
[18:52:58] | rsdvd_: | Juski : can I pick your brains.....do you think a athlon 62 x2 4600 (Dual-core) + 1Gb RAM would be enough to play 720p HD without any issues? |
[18:53:08] | juski: | maybe list them on a website (the wiki perhaps) in a tree formation ;) |
[18:53:23] | juski: | rsdvd_: 720p mpeg2? blimey yeah |
[18:53:51] | juski: | it'd prolly cough a little with h.264, at least until ffmpeg is all parallelised |
[18:53:57] | thylacine222: | rsdvd_: I have an Athlon 64 2800 that can run that video, so I assume yours can. |
[18:54:09] | rsdvd_: | I am trying to spec my new frontend for the new TV.......just not sure how powerful to make it |
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[18:54:32] | juski: | rsdvd_: in the current state of play you'd need to uprgade it come terrestrial h.264 HDTV |
[18:54:33] | thylacine222: | The FAQ recommends around 3.0 Ghz. |
[18:55:03] | juski: | btw have any of the UK users heard the stuff about where some of Gordon Brown's budget finance is angled to come from? |
[18:55:14] | rsdvd_: | juski : but freeview HD will probably never happen......and by the time it does then it woudl be cheaper to replace |
[18:55:17] | juski: | that's right! the old analogue TV spectrum sale! |
[18:55:39] | gbee: | well we all knew that was coming |
[18:55:43] | juski: | yup |
[18:55:56] | juski: | well all apart from the altruists/naieve ones |
[18:56:54] | thylacine222: | Gah! Can someone help me w/ my mythweb setup? |
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[18:57:24] | gbee: | they'd have to have been living under a rock – what on earth gave them the idea that this government would doing anything else? |
[18:57:40] | Ribs: | heh |
[18:57:52] | Ribs: | it would be nice if HD freeview would happen |
[18:57:55] | juski: | gbee: a good amount of people still think the analogue stuff will automatically become HD |
[18:58:08] | Ribs: | freeview was almost competetive with sky there... |
[18:58:16] | juski: | like it's some sort of birthright... which is understandable I suppose |
[18:58:17] | thylacine222: | It´s set up to the point that I can access it from the computer it´s running on, but I can´t access it from the other computers on the network |
[18:58:54] | juski: | thylacine222: some apache config mangle-aration-ifying is needed then – prolly apache is still bound to 127.0.0.1 |
[18:59:06] | thylacine222: | How do I check? |
[18:59:33] | juski: | where you look depends on what distro you run, and how close to the proper config file locations they stayed |
[18:59:33] | thylacine222: | The server is set up on the computer´s ip address on the network. |
[19:00:09] | thylacine222: | I´m on FC6 |
[19:00:10] | juski: | well, is the mythbox on the same subnet as the rest of the network? |
[19:00:15] | thylacine222: | Yes |
[19:00:35] | juski: | what kind of error do you get? access denied? cannot connect to server? que? |
[19:00:41] | rsdvd_: | thylacine222 : can you access any part of apache from other machines? |
[19:01:00] | thylacine222: | What do you mean? |
[19:01:29] | juski: | thylacine222: what does the web browser report when you try to access mythweb? |
[19:01:45] | thylacine222: | Whenever I type the IP address of the computer into my browser, it just gives unknown host. |
[19:01:51] | rsdvd_: | thylacine222 : if you open a browser on a standard FC6 you shoud get a welcome page from fedora |
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[19:03:06] | thylacine222: | rsdvd_:Yeah, I´m there. |
[19:03:28] | juski: | so do you get that page from the other machines too? |
[19:03:38] | rsdvd_: | thylacine222 : so you get the welcome page from other pcs? |
[19:03:44] | thylacine222: | Oh, no, I do´t. |
[19:03:46] | thylacine222: | *don´t. |
[19:03:59] | thylacine222: | I thought you were talking about something else. |
[19:04:05] | rsdvd_: | LOL – make your mind up :-) |
[19:04:16] | thylacine222: | I´ve changed the directory to the mythweb directory, not the main one. |
[19:04:19] | rsdvd_: | check the apache error log |
[19:04:42] | akifdino: | the channels i delete with mythweb are still in mythtv-setup visible |
[19:05:10] | juski: | akifdino: pleh! |
[19:05:27] | immolo: | anyone know a good program to use just to see if a video card works outside of mythtv and isn't tzap |
[19:05:35] | juski: | immolo: kaffeine |
[19:05:51] | juski: | I assume you meant DVB tuner card :) |
[19:06:22] | thylacine222: | http://pastebin.ca/410892 |
[19:06:26] | akifdino: | juski: ? |
[19:06:33] | thylacine222: | error log ^^^ |
[19:06:39] | juski: | akifdino: I think it's unlikely somehow |
[19:07:03] | akifdino: | juski: do i maybe need to restart mythtv? |
[19:07:08] | juski: | mythtv hasn't automagically re-added deleted DVB channels since 0.18 |
[19:07:15] | juski: | akifdino: yeah maybe... |
[19:07:42] | immolo: | juski- thanks |
[19:07:47] | immolo: | juski- indeed |
[19:08:13] | juski: | np – I mean I know I'm a troll but I try to be a helpful one :-P |
[19:08:22] | rsdvd_: | thylacine222 : that is very short for an apache error_log.......and has no mention of you trying to connect |
[19:08:48] | rsdvd_: | thylacine222 : are you sure the PC you are working from can actually route to the webserver you are running on? |
[19:09:36] | thylacine222: | It was the same error over and over again, and there is no mention of my ip address. |
[19:09:50] | thylacine222: | I´m sshing into it right now, and I can ping it. |
[19:10:11] | juski: | time to check .htaccess & stuff |
[19:10:21] | rsdvd_: | there are no errors in the log you posted.......just notice and warns |
[19:10:44] | juski: | though even if you'd denied all but the box's own IP address, the other machine's browser would still not get 'unknown host' stuff |
[19:10:51] | rsdvd_: | I agree with juski .......are you using htaccess |
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[19:11:27] | thylacine222: | I haven´t changed the .htaccess, so I assume not. |
[19:11:40] | juski: | have a look anyway |
[19:11:53] | thylacine222: | I´ve changed httpd.conf, but it wasn´t working even before that |
[19:12:21] | rsdvd_: | thylacine222 : I think the standard mythweb uses htaccess by default......although I may be wrong |
[19:12:21] | juski: | thylacine222: if you changed httpd.conf to set it to run on the box's real IP address did you restart apache? |
[19:12:38] | thylacine222: | Yes |
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[19:15:06] | bcnx: | Hi all, any MythPhone users here? |
[19:16:37] | juski: | chance'd be a fine thing... |
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[19:23:33] | thylacine222: | does the .htaccess file help any? |
[19:25:10] | thylacine222: | Or do you need httpd.conf |
[19:33:10] | bcnx: | one more go: any heavy MythPhone users here? |
[19:33:28] | bcnx: | I'd like to use it with VoIPbuster. They do VoIP calls to landlines |
[19:33:50] | bcnx: | but it seems you can't enter a PSTN phone number in MythPhone |
[19:34:00] | bcnx: | was wondering if there's any way working around that |
[19:36:09] | juski: | bcnx: I think you asked this on the user's mailing list too – if you get no answer there it generally means there's no answer |
[19:36:27] | bcnx: | yes, true, I asked there as well |
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[19:36:54] | bcnx: | it's a pitty the developper hasn't read it |
[19:37:19] | bcnx: | it would be awesome to be able to call PSTN numbers |
[19:37:22] | juski: | not that I know much about VOIP – maybe you could set up a gateway using another application & call through that |
[19:37:25] | bcnx: | o well ... |
[19:37:38] | bcnx: | like install Asterisk on the same device |
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[19:37:59] | juski: | yeah but I've no idea if you can mangle mythphone to work like that |
[19:37:59] | bcnx: | that's the hard way, but it's an option |
[19:38:14] | juski: | better n' none :) |
[19:38:37] | bcnx: | I suppose you need to point Myth Phone to the Asterisk server and configure a Voipbuster accout in Asterisk |
[19:38:42] | bcnx: | is doable, but a lot of work |
[19:39:00] | bcnx: | if only MythPhone would not care about what you enter, it woudl work |
[19:39:01] | thylacine222: | Hey, I´m getting an "unable to connect to host" instead of "unknown host" now |
[19:39:19] | bcnx: | I sniffed the SIP packets and it's really no differerence |
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[19:39:55] | juski: | bcnx: maybe whoever develops mythphone would be willing to change it, or you could (cough) try to alter it yourself |
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[19:40:29] | Ribs: | what should I be looking for in mythtv for a tuner to be 'unavailable' ? |
[19:40:40] | Ribs: | is says one of my tuners is that, but I don't know why |
[19:40:55] | juski: | bear in mind that if it does get the functionality you want, it'll likely only be available in SVN & not backported to the stable version |
[19:41:14] | juski: | so you'd have to wait til the next release or else run SVN |
[19:41:26] | juski: | linux == pain |
[19:41:41] | juski: | for some that pain is having to learn new tricks ;) |
[19:41:59] | bcnx: | yeah, after all these years of open source I've come to realize that |
[19:42:16] | bcnx: | the rewards are "sometimes" awesome, but the pain, o god, the pain ;-) |
[19:42:34] | juski: | put it this way, you stand more chance of getting mythphone to work like you'd like it to than say.. oh Skype maybe ;) |
[19:43:16] | thylacine222: | Because we all know that skype developers are on time and very open. |
[19:43:26] | bcnx: | yep, and at least you get open standards |
[19:43:36] | bcnx: | there you go :-) |
[19:50:45] | thylacine222: | OK, so can anyone help me with mythweb? |
[19:55:51] | bcnx: | which is a pitty |
[19:55:56] | GreyFoxx: | bcnx: No, you get to pick |
[19:56:01] | GreyFoxx: | I just enter phone numbers |
[19:56:02] | bcnx: | really? |
[19:56:05] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
[19:56:34] | bcnx: | I tried regular phonenumbers, but no sigar – the conosle outputs somehting like "valid IP address?" |
[19:56:55] | bcnx: | okidok |
[19:57:01] | JoeyJoeJo: | is it possible to send a 1080i or 720p signal to an HDTV using a vga cable? |
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[19:58:40] | juski: | gah! I hate mains adapters! |
[19:58:45] | GreyFoxx: | bcnx: From the mythphone interface I type in my work # and hit "Place voice -only call" |
[19:59:05] | GreyFoxx: | actually hold on, I see what you are talking about |
[19:59:08] | juski: | those damn wallplug things are the bane of my life – I can never find the one I need when I want it |
[19:59:32] | bcnx: | yeah? |
[19:59:38] | immolo: | ok is it possible to hook up a ps2 to dvb card? |
[19:59:44] | praet: | JoeyJoeJo: i think you can if you hit a res. supported by your tv |
[19:59:55] | GreyFoxx: | bcnx: Hmmmm . I did it just the other day |
[20:00:02] | GreyFoxx: | I'm trying to remember how :) |
[20:00:09] | bcnx: | i troed several combinations |
[20:00:24] | bcnx: | with "003214465464654@sip.voipbuster.com " |
[20:00:40] | bcnx: | and just "003214654654654" |
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[20:03:50] | GreyFoxx: | Ok |
[20:03:56] | GreyFoxx: | It worked fine by putting in the # only |
[20:04:03] | bcnx: | aha! |
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[20:04:12] | bcnx: | so # + phone number? |
[20:04:14] | GreyFoxx: | it turns out my mythphone had not reregistered to my asterisk box after my last restart of asterisk |
[20:04:17] | GreyFoxx: | no |
[20:04:32] | bcnx: | :-s |
[20:04:33] | GreyFoxx: | in my case "xxxyyyy" |
[20:04:48] | GreyFoxx: | I restarted mythfrontend to force it to reregister |
[20:05:03] | GreyFoxx: | then just launched mythphone and typed my number and told it to place a voice onyl call |
[20:05:12] | GreyFoxx: | I called my self here at work from home just now using it |
[20:05:43] | bcnx: | so you just entered a reguler phone number |
[20:05:47] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
[20:05:47] | bcnx: | regular |
[20:06:05] | bcnx: | but you're VoIP server is your own asterisk box at home |
[20:06:10] | GreyFoxx: | Correct |
[20:06:12] | bcnx: | connected to PSTN |
[20:06:15] | GreyFoxx: | Yes |
[20:06:29] | GreyFoxx: | And previously I used it talking to an asterisk box here in the office |
[20:06:36] | bcnx: | I guess I could try some more then |
[20:06:45] | bcnx: | worst case I can always install Asterisk |
[20:06:53] | bcnx: | GreyFoxx, thanks a lot for trying |
[20:06:56] | GreyFoxx: | np |
[20:07:03] | praet: | bcnx: you have mythphone setup to use an external voip address? |
[20:07:06] | GreyFoxx: | I got the same error you did, until I forced it to reregister |
[20:07:23] | GreyFoxx: | I'll have to look at the code to see why it didn't reregister ojn it's own |
[20:07:28] | bcnx: | praet: yes, sip.voipbuster.com |
[20:07:51] | praet: | have you tested communications from that box with a client program |
[20:07:58] | bcnx: | Grey:now that you mention it, I did see some messages stating that it lost registration or something |
[20:08:19] | GreyFoxx: | bcnx: You likely had the same issue than me then |
[20:08:22] | thylacine222: | bcnx: It looks like you are supposed to have a + at the beginning of the number, did you do that? |
[20:08:28] | GreyFoxx: | it didn't auto reconnect |
[20:08:31] | bcnx: | praet: I tried that form a PC that acts like the Mytbox's router |
[20:09:19] | bcnx: | thylacine222: I didn't try that, but GreyFoxx just tested without a "+" and that seems to workµ |
[20:10:09] | praet: | bcnx: try installing a sip client, throw your config in there and make your echo test |
[20:12:05] | bcnx: | praet: you mean testing the same account on a SIP client on that machine? the only reason that wouldn't work is because of NAT issues, but it's a good idea. will do that as soon as "Heroes" finishes :-) |
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[20:12:33] | praet: | right. would check your connection as it is not an internal pbx like asterisk |
[20:12:39] | juski: | I thought Heroes had finished til like April or something |
[20:12:41] | akifdino: | if you had a cabel dvb card and all your channels do work except a few and those would work with the card on an other receiver where would you look to love it? |
[20:12:58] | akifdino: | s/love/solve/ |
[20:13:01] | praet: | hehe |
[20:13:11] | bcnx: | I'm in Europe, things arrive here with some delay ;-) |
[20:13:24] | bcnx: | we just got rid of black and white screens ;-) |
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[20:14:50] | praet: | akifdino: 'on anoher receiver' like, another set top box? |
[20:15:10] | akifdino: | praet: yes |
[20:15:23] | akifdino: | praet: the one which my provider gave me. pace |
[20:16:03] | juski: | akifdino: it's most likely to be some kind of bug caused by the cable company using non-standard signals |
[20:16:20] | akifdino: | juski: is there anything i could try/do? |
[20:16:39] | praet: | were you able to test by tuning manually |
[20:16:52] | juski: | akifdino: report it as a bug if you're able to use czap to tune the channel |
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[20:17:19] | juski: | but developer folks need more info than "help! not worky!" ;) |
[20:17:46] | juski: | if czap doesn't tune the channels you are missing, then there's little that can be done |
[20:17:56] | akifdino: | ok |
[20:18:02] | juski: | stop mythbackend before trying czap btw |
[20:18:09] | akifdino: | juski: yes, ok |
[20:18:20] | juski: | anyway I need to go |
[20:18:22] | juski: | g'night |
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[20:18:25] | bcnx: | praet, juski, greyfoxx: thx a lot! |
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[20:37:11] | bcnx: | GreyFoxx: I think it registeres OK now, but still the odd IP address messages |
[20:37:43] | bcnx: | Just tried xlite on the same machine and that works fine |
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[21:08:34] | tts: | guys my master server is really slow will tuning off the Gui help ? |
[21:09:22] | tts: | it only has 249 mb ram |
[21:09:30] | thylacine222: | Which GUI? |
[21:09:33] | thylacine222: | the frontend? |
[21:09:42] | tts: | backend |
[21:09:56] | tts: | i have the pannels and all running |
[21:10:05] | thylacine222: | You mean CPU panels? |
[21:10:08] | thylacine222: | monitor panels? |
[21:10:26] | tts: | its basicly like a normal desktop |
[21:10:37] | tts: | basically * |
[21:10:48] | thylacine222: | Has it always been running slow? |
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[21:11:00] | thylacine222: | What Distro and GUI? |
[21:11:05] | tts: | actualy its hasnt been this bad |
[21:11:18] | tts: | cant watch tv properly |
[21:11:27] | tts: | i have ubuntu |
[21:11:42] | tts: | gui is gnome |
[21:11:59] | thylacine222: | What are the specs on the server? |
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[21:13:52] | tts: | it should be thrown i got a new pc and thought maybe i could use this as server |
[21:14:05] | tts: | its 1.ghz 256 mb |
[21:14:11] | thylacine222: | And what´s the output of "ps aux | grep myth" |
[21:14:17] | thylacine222: | That should be fine for a myth server |
[21:14:17] | tts: | 249 sorry |
[21:14:26] | tank-man: | that was my old pc 2 days ago, 1ghz/512ram |
[21:14:52] | tank-man: | worked fine for sdtv with mythtv |
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[21:15:20] | tts: | not 512 its 249 tank-man |
[21:16:25] | thylacine222: | Hey, I´m running a 900 Mhz backend and frontend, and it runs fine. |
[21:16:39] | tts: | thylacine why dose a server need so much power |
[21:16:55] | tts: | how much ram ? |
[21:16:59] | thylacine222: | It´s less powerful than yours, lol.. |
[21:17:06] | thylacine222: | 512 ram, I think. |
[21:17:11] | thylacine222: | Do you have a swap set up? |
[21:17:49] | tts: | yeh it has 700 mb swap |
[21:18:03] | tts: | uses about 300 mn of witch |
[21:18:04] | thylacine222: | Hm... |
[21:18:14] | thylacine222: | Are you sure it´s not the frontend computer? |
[21:18:46] | tts: | yeh very shure |
[21:19:01] | tts: | thou it has front end installed i dont use it , |
[21:19:08] | tts: | just the server side of things |
[21:19:12] | tts: | http://pastebin.ca/411127 |
[21:19:51] | tts: | also remember I`m not using it right now , but i can if you want |
[21:20:26] | tts: | also i dont find it easy to connect to it |
[21:20:29] | thylacine222: | You´re not using the frontend? |
[21:20:41] | kormoc: | tts, what's the capture card? |
[21:20:41] | tts: | no just backend |
[21:20:48] | tts: | dvb-t |
[21:20:53] | tts: | kworld 100 |
[21:20:53] | thylacine222: | How is the frontend connected to the backend? |
[21:21:00] | tts: | lan |
[21:21:22] | kormoc: | tts, so by slow, what exactly do you mean? |
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[21:21:47] | tts: | the picture on the front end is not as it should |
[21:22:04] | thylacine222: | Does the video drop frames? |
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[21:23:04] | thylacine222: | Oh, it sounds like a DVB-T Problem. Sorry, can´t help you there, have no idea about that. |
[21:23:23] | tts: | also the front end "machine status" show theres only about 16 mb ram left |
[21:24:01] | doc|home: | tts: linux only frees memory when it's needed. It's normal not to have much showing as free |
[21:24:06] | tts: | i mean 16 mb thats really bad :( |
[21:24:43] | tts: | i will try with the powerfull front end and see how tings go |
[21:25:04] | tts: | it has a 3200 with 1gb of ram 8-) |
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[21:25:25] | tts: | the other has a 2800 with 512 of ram |
[21:25:30] | thylacine222: | I should hope that works |
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[21:25:41] | tts: | i hope not......... |
[21:26:05] | tank-man: | why do you hope not? |
[21:26:10] | thylacine222: | Wait, so let me get this straight. You´re getting video problems on one channel in particular, but not on any other channels? |
[21:26:30] | thylacine222: | Or did I just get that completely wrong? |
[21:26:34] | tts: | that would mean 2800 is not good |
[21:26:45] | tts: | yess |
[21:26:48] | thylacine222: | 2800 is overkill. |
[21:27:13] | thylacine222: | For a dedicated SD frontend, at least. |
[21:27:13] | tts: | ohh |
[21:27:49] | tts: | why do servers need to be so strong /powerfull |
[21:27:57] | tts: | i dont get it |
[21:28:16] | tts: | all they do is send data |
[21:28:16] | tank-man: | they dont |
[21:28:32] | hjohnson: | tts: unless they're doing other tasks. |
[21:28:36] | tank-man: | i had a 1ghz with 512ram for my backend/frontend/desktop |
[21:28:39] | tts: | how hard can blowing some stuff down a pipe be |
[21:28:42] | hjohnson: | say, running the parity calculations for RAID. :) |
[21:28:54] | hjohnson: | or transcoding video. |
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[21:29:02] | tts: | 512ram i have 249 remeber |
[21:29:11] | tts: | i think ram is the isue here |
[21:29:20] | hjohnson: | the more RAM you have the better.. |
[21:29:23] | hjohnson: | cache more of that filesystem to RAM. |
[21:29:37] | tts: | yeh, |
[21:29:45] | tank-man: | lots of people use an xbox for a frontend for sd too and it has 64mb ram |
[21:30:05] | tts: | im still planing on doing that |
[21:30:06] | hjohnson: | i'm thinking about hacking an AppleTV for a frontend. :) |
[21:30:09] | hjohnson: | that'd be a fun project. |
[21:30:26] | hjohnson: | little, quiet, includes a remote, gigabit ethernet, and HDMI connector. |
[21:30:44] | tts: | shure will be, |
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[21:31:02] | tts: | im going to try on the 3200 brb guys |
[21:31:12] | hjohnson: | it's just a Pentium M w/256MB and stuff. :) |
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[21:32:09] | tts: | ohh will turning off gdm make a diffrence ? |
[21:32:22] | tts: | and how do i turn it on when needed ? |
[21:33:18] | tts: | make sense , the backend dont need a GIU/gnome right ? |
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[21:33:48] | hjohnson: | tts: yeah, but it's a pain to set it up if you don't have it.. |
[21:34:05] | hjohnson: | since you have to do everything through mythtv-setup, rather than good old fashioned text config files.. (grumble grumble) |
[21:34:06] | tts: | yeh but every thing is set up |
[21:34:31] | hjohnson: | when I set up I was sitting there going "this would be so much easier if I could just use vi" |
[21:35:03] | Tommck: | anyone else have problems upgrading with the hamsta.net packages for Ubuntu Dapper Drake? (mythtv-database always fails) |
[21:35:48] | tank-man: | run mythtv-setup on a different pc with ssh |
[21:36:21] | tank-man: | text config file would be better tho |
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[21:39:33] | tts: | tank-man:that didnt work for me tryed it once |
[21:39:59] | tts: | it said some thing about ,x display |
[21:40:23] | tts: | heck i cant even sudo gedit |
[21:40:29] | tank-man: | i had to do it like that cause xbox doesnt have a keyboard |
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[21:40:35] | tts: | have to use sudo nano |
[21:41:08] | tts: | tank-man how easy is it to do a front end on the xbox |
[21:41:28] | tts: | i always wanted to do that but never got the help |
[21:41:43] | tank-man: | pretty easy, same difficulty as on normal pc |
[21:41:46] | tts: | when i did i couldnt ftp inot the box |
[21:42:07] | tts: | not risky then ? |
[21:42:54] | tank-man: | no |
[21:43:13] | tts: | great im going to try it some time |
[21:43:35] | tts: | do you have a link to the compiled stuff? |
[21:43:55] | tank-man: | no |
[21:44:06] | tank-man: | i compiled from source |
[21:44:20] | tts: | with what ubuntu ? |
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[21:45:14] | tank-man: | on xbox? |
[21:45:30] | tts: | no on pc |
[21:45:37] | tts: | lol |
[21:45:37] | tank-man: | slackware |
[21:45:47] | tts: | i dont know all thats |
[21:46:17] | tank-man: | if you are familiar with linux, installing mythtv can be easy |
[21:46:23] | tts: | so there is no way to just down load and install |
[21:46:37] | tank-man: | i just setup my new backend this morning |
[21:46:44] | tts: | yes its easy for me now :P |
[21:46:59] | tts: | any good ? |
[21:47:13] | tts: | acualy its very very very easy |
[21:47:17] | tank-man: | sure |
[21:48:04] | tts: | people complain to much and it scares the noobs away |
[21:48:50] | tts: | i was thinking is i disable gdm like this System/Administration/Services and unclick Graphical Logic Manager (gdm) |
[21:48:56] | tts: | how will i get it back |
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[21:51:10] | tts: | i have asked in #ubuntu ,should be ok |
[21:52:45] | tank-man: | why are you uninstalling gdm? |
[21:52:54] | tank-man: | that is the login manager |
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[21:54:28] | tts: | ohh realy |
[21:54:43] | tts: | i just dont want any gui ? |
[21:55:08] | tts: | i dont want gnome |
[21:55:19] | tts: | uses too much cpu and ram |
[21:55:26] | moh: | I've seen people recommend WMII |
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[21:55:55] | tts: | this is for the server , people common |
[21:56:07] | tank-man: | then yea you can get rid of it |
[21:56:19] | tts: | ok how tank |
[21:56:24] | deebus: | my second input on my pvr500 doesn't want to scan for channels. anyone know why that might happen? |
[21:56:40] | tts: | you dont need to |
[21:56:49] | tts: | just seletc a source |
[21:57:00] | deebus: | k, lemme see... |
[21:57:07] | tank-man: | tts, if you dont want graphical startup, try looking in /etc/inittab file |
[21:57:16] | tts: | unless im very much mistaken |
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[22:00:42] | tts: | thanks guys |
[22:00:50] | tts: | see you around |
[22:01:04] | moh: | you can change the *default* runlevel in /etc/inittab, but that doesn't change "graphical" startup on debian |
[22:01:10] | tank-man: | i mean the runlevel when you pc boots up |
[22:01:34] | moh: | yes, inittab does that. Has nothing to do with if X starts or not. |
[22:03:05] | hads: | Basically every distro except Debian derivs use 3/5 |
[22:03:53] | ** xris recommends runlevel 6... safest against hacking. ** | |
[22:04:21] | hads: | heh |
[22:04:38] | xris: | actually, people have been known to run firewalls at runlevel 6 |
[22:04:41] | tank-man: | then how do boot up to command promt login on debian? |
[22:07:53] | tank-man: | nevermind, it was tts that wanted console login |
[22:10:04] | thylacine222: | Can anyone help me with mythweb? |
[22:10:10] | xris: | thylacine222: what's up? |
[22:10:49] | thylacine222: | I´m able to access mythweb from the backend/frontend computer (same computer), but I can´t access it from other computers on the network. |
[22:11:06] | xris: | errors? |
[22:11:53] | thylacine222: | in the browser |
[22:12:14] | xris: | are you running selinux or a firewall on the box? |
[22:12:23] | thylacine222: | the access attempts don´t show up in access_log or error_log |
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[22:12:29] | thylacine222: | No, I disabled SELinux. |
[22:12:56] | thylacine222: | I´m not sure about firewalls, but I haven´t intentionally installed any. |
[22:13:01] | thylacine222: | I´m on FC6 |
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[22:13:45] | xris: | telnet on port 80? |
[22:13:58] | thylacine222: | Not sure how to do that? |
[22:14:08] | thylacine222: | Here´s my htaccess file for mythweb |
[22:14:09] | thylacine222: | http://pastebin.ca/410910 |
[22:14:35] | xris: | if it connects, type anything and press enter |
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[22:16:25] | onewheelskyward: | mmm..routing fun. |
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[22:17:40] | hiredgoon: | hi folks |
[22:18:00] | hiredgoon: | having trouble getting mythtv to capture audio with my (blaster) ati tv wonder ve on ubuntu edgy |
[22:18:07] | hiredgoon: | re, blasted |
[22:19:18] | hjohnson: | do those even work with linux? |
[22:19:30] | hiredgoon: | yup, crap that they are |
[22:20:33] | hiredgoon: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_TV-Wonder_VE is sorta helping, but despite capture being on on my line in i get no audio |
[22:21:41] | hads: | Bummer, the MCE blaster doesn't appear to work with my STB, back to the serial one it is I guess. |
[22:21:43] | thylacine222: | Ahah! |
[22:21:45] | thylacine222: | I found it. |
[22:22:01] | thylacine222: | Fedora comes installed with a firewall that blocks port 80 by default. |
[22:22:09] | thylacine222: | But it doesn´t block SSH |
[22:22:22] | onewheelskyward: | Wonderful. |
[22:22:44] | thylacine222: | Thanks everyone |
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[22:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Hey, just want to thank the MythArchive devs – you've helped me put off replacing my hard drives with larger sized versions. ;) |
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[22:38:42] | hads: | onewheelskyward: Finished that upgrade. |
[22:39:02] | onewheelskyward: | hads: You're a glutton for punishment. :) I haven't started my swap yet. |
[22:39:48] | hads: | THe MS MCE blaster doesn't seem to work with my STB but that's no major. I was going to get rid of my old serial blaster but now it gets to stay. |
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[22:48:53] | onewheelskyward: | Oh good to know ivtv 10 is working. |
[23:06:18] | ByteChanger: | lo all |
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[23:09:15] | kantlivelong: | anyone here use gentoo? |
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[23:10:47] | ByteChanger: | can someone help me... http://pastebin.ca/411318 Basically, I need to repair my Database... |
[23:11:12] | ByteChanger: | please and thanks. |
[23:11:16] | ByteChanger: | :-) |
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[23:13:36] | ByteChanger: | hehe, is there a mythrepairdatabase command? |
[23:17:11] | hads: | `mysqlcheck --auto-repair mythconverg` |
[23:17:28] | hads: | Add -u and -p if you need to change the user/password |
[23:21:04] | ByteChanger: | thanks hads |
[23:21:54] | hads: | np |
[23:23:01] | adante_: | kantlivelong: sure |
[23:27:24] | ByteChanger: | hmm, the repair job isn't working... |
[23:27:35] | ByteChanger: | It reports OK for everything... |
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[23:27:54] | kantlivelong: | adante_: do u use that init script? |
[23:28:14] | ByteChanger: | any way to erase the mythconverg/recorded table? |
[23:36:39] | clever: | login to mysql and truncate table recorded |
[23:36:48] | clever: | that will simply empty it without deleting |
[23:36:57] | clever: | but youll loose its contents |
[23:37:06] | clever: | might confuse some other things |
[23:38:31] | ByteChanger: | clever: What kinda syntax for something like that? |
[23:38:48] | clever: | 'use mythconverg' to change to the db |
[23:38:54] | clever: | then 'truncate table recorded;' |
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[23:39:15] | clever: | to login its 'mysql -u username -p -h server' |
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[23:39:35] | clever: | name/pw/server are in mysql.txt(locate mysql.txt) |
[23:39:39] | adante_: | kantlivelong: yeah |
[23:39:48] | k-man_: | can anyone recommend a dual tuner dvb-t card that works well with linux? |
[23:39:53] | kantlivelong: | adante_: really.. it fails for me what version are u using |
[23:40:12] | ByteChanger: | thanks clever! |
[23:40:24] | adante_: | kantlivelong: nooo idea heh |
[23:40:30] | kantlivelong: | eh.. |
[23:41:06] | adante_: | kantlivelong: probably one from old 0.19pre build |
[23:41:19] | adante_: | kantlivelong: i can put it on pastebin or something if you want.. isn't much to it |
[23:41:43] | kantlivelong: | adante_: sure |
[23:41:48] | clever: | my ubuntu package gave me 0.18:P |
[23:41:55] | kantlivelong: | adante_: how did u set it up.. maybe i did it wrong |
[23:41:57] | clever: | ive removed it since and gotten svn |
[23:42:30] | adante_: | kantlivelong: emerged one of the ebuilds.. but i switched to svn |
[23:42:48] | clever: | dont have any gentoo boxes here |
[23:44:03] | kantlivelong: | adante_: thanks |
[23:44:12] | ByteChanger: | clever: 0 rows affected.... Anyway to just blow away the whole DB and start it from scratch? |
[23:44:37] | clever: | what is the problem your getting? |
[23:44:51] | clever: | might be a simpler way to fix it |
[23:45:55] | ByteChanger: | I take it back. I think that fixed it clever... |
[23:46:06] | clever: | :) |
[23:46:50] | ByteChanger: | its working ;-) Thanks clever!! |
[23:46:59] | clever: | :) |
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