Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Wednesday, March 14th, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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dustybin:

ok let me think

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dustybin:

mine wont let me connect either

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cheeseboy:

its workin in myth

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dustybin:

aye cool!

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dustybin:

everything ok now?

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cheeseboy:

backend isnt starting at boot

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dustybin:

heheh

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dustybin:

problem no.2

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dustybin:

is your remote ok?

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cheeseboy:

yep

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dustybin:

ok good! :)

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dustybin:

try rebooting your machine and testing remote

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cheeseboy:

well i wanna be able to shut off my tc but that can wait

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dustybin:

to make sure modules / daemon starts from boot

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cheeseboy:

tv*

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cheeseboy:

h/o

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dustybin:

u havent finished with your remote yet

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antiPosix:

is there any game emulator for mythgame that supports exiting the emulator via a gamepad button, or lirc. I dont like having a keyboard plugged in

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dustybin:

shit my remote is buggered now lol

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antiPosix:

the sole reason I have the keyboard plugged in is for the esc key

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dustybin:

yep mirc supports lirc

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dustybin:

or some versions do anyway

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antiPosix:

mirc? isnt that a cheezy IRC win32 program

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dustybin:

i mean mame sorry

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dustybin:

im tired

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dustybin:

xmame supports lirc

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dustybin:

haha mirc is just that

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serfrs:

can anyone answer me why is it when I setup my backend, and use my remote frontend to watch tv, its zoomed in... and changing the over/underscan %'s does nothing but make the "box" its running in larger or smaller but keep the same view

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serfrs:

I have been wrestling with this the whole day and no luck

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cheeseboy:

ok remote still works

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dustybin:

ok good :)

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cheeseboy:

now how do i get backend to start at boot?

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dustybin:

hmmm

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dustybin:

let me think

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dustybin:

mine automatically starts at boot

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onewheelskyward:

What's your distro, cheesey?

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dustybin:

u could start it the lame way

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archpollux:

hi

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cheeseboy:

ubuntu

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archpollux:

how can i disable scanning of subfolders in mythvideo?

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archpollux:

i want the directory to be read only when i access it

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onewheelskyward:

cheeseboy: Take a lookin /etc/init.d, you can mirror one of those setup scripts. Myth might come with them also.

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archpollux:

is that possible?

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adante:

serfrs: possibly aspect ratio override? there are changeable options in the menu anyhoo

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onewheelskyward:

http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding . . . n-at-bootup/

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cheeseboy:

dustybin

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dustybin:

cheeseboy: are u sure your backend isnt starting?

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cheeseboy:

volume and channel are fast forwarding

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cheeseboy:

backend doesnt start unless i tell it to

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dustybin:

cheese boy u need to edit your ~/.mythtv/lircrc file

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dustybin:

and make sure the buttons on your remote do what u want them to

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mishehu:

goddamn thing won't record off of the firewire half of the time

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mishehu:

it changes channel but you get a file 0 bytes. and it's an OTA channel off of a motorolla dct 6200

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archpollux:

anybody? :)

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cheeseboy:

half these dont work

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cheeseboy:

like watch tv is f5

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cheeseboy:

guide is f3

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cheeseboy:

they dont work :(

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toad-six:

xris – are you there? i have a question regarding nuvexport...

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xris:

toad-six: reboot

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toad-six:

rrrreally.

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toad-six:

haha

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toad-six:

i'll give it a whirl

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toad-six:

thx

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xris:

some people have been having trouble with mysql, etc. not picking up the dst change without a full reboot

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Captain_Murdoch:

rm_you, are you still around? did you get that lircrc file?

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serfrs:

adante: you still around?

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nasa:

Hi, I have ripped some of my DVDs using mythdvd ( I used the excellent setting) — I was wondering how to get the resulting video fill my full TV screen?

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serfrs:

xris: have a ? for ya

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xris:

?

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serfrs:

maybe you know the answer... I've been pulling my hair out

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serfrs:

when I stream video form my backend to my front end, the video is WAY WAY zoomed in

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serfrs:

*from

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Honk^away:

mhh.. what can be wrong if livetv only shows like 8fps (estimated *g*) while the same scene from recordings runs just fine?

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serfrs:

nothing I do on the frontend changes the size

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serfrs:

so I have narrowed it down to possibly a backend issue

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serfrs:

there seems to be nothing in the setup for the backend that can scale the resolution down

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xris:

serfrs: sounds like a config issue somewhere... maybe even video card config?

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xris:

e.g. xRandR

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serfrs:

on the frontend?

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serfrs:

hmmm... I remmeber seeing something about that xRandR

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serfrs:

where can I go for some documention about ATI cards?

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xris:

not sure

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serfrs:

hmmm... I'm guessing that if I drop oney on a nvidia card all would be well...

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serfrs:

*money

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xris:

basically, RandR lets mythtv change your X resolution to fit the video resolution (no need for scaling, then)... but if you don't have it enabled in X, X just zooms in on the same full-size screen area

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xris:

serfrs: $20. :)

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rm_you:

Captain_Murdoch: ah, no, but i took like 45 minutes and created my own >_>

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rm_you:

was really annoying and time-consuming, but it works nicely now :P

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serfrs:

where at??

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Captain_Murdoch:

ok, I have 3 of those remotes, so was going to offer mine.

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rm_you:

heh, thanks :P

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serfrs:

all I can find is a 52-- for 55+shipping :)

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rm_you:

Anyone know why navigating in in the mythvideo plugin is REALLY slow (I'm using list mode, dunno about gallery mode)? Like... REALLY slow? And possibly how to fix it? :P

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Captain_Murdoch:

mine is at http://mythtv.bc2va.org/lirc/lircrc_packard_bell if you want to take a look.

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rm_you:

Captain_Murdoch: ok, I shall, thanks ;P

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serfrs:

ok... now just to make sure I got my bases covered, the menu (coming from the frontend) is perfect... everything about the frontend is perfect... just the video that is streaming from the back end

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rm_you:

serfrs: what ATI card do you have?

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rm_you:

I just spent a better portion of the day getting this one to work (Radeon 9600) but it works great now

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rm_you:

and by great, I mean "it doesn't hardlock the machine anymore" :P

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serfrs:

9550

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serfrs:

Its a great card

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rm_you:

you using TV out? or just monitor?

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serfrs:

worked out alot better than my 6200

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serfrs:

tv out

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rm_you:

hrm... my 6x00 works AWESOME :P

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rm_you:

lol

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serfrs:

after I enabled the tv-overscan, boom, it scaled the image perfectly, and lookes great

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rm_you:

ah ok

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rm_you:

so you aren't having trouble with it anymore?

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rm_you:

i saw you mention ditching it and buying an nvidia card, heh]

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rm_you:

thought maybe I could help save you some time/money :P

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serfrs:

well, everything thats handled by the frontend machine (the one with the ATI) looks great

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rm_you:

(although I still heartily recommend nvidia over ATI, i'm not insane! lol)

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rm_you:

heh ok, well gj then :P

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serfrs:

its just when I go to watch tv, thats streamed from the backend, that the picture is HUGE

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serfrs:

imagine taking the picture, chopping it into 6ths, and only being able to see the top middle 6th

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serfrs:

the OSD when I go to watch TV takes up the WHOLE screen

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rm_you:

lol

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serfrs:

whats supposed to be a 1–2 inch bar across the bottom, has turned into a 2–1/2 foot monster

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toad-six:

xris – me again – i rebooted and the times are still off

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toad-six:

mythweb returns the correct times

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kormoc:

toad-six, does the command date return the correct time and timezone?

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toad-six:

yup

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toad-six:

date

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toad-six:

Tue Mar 13 21:36:56 EDT 2007

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toad-six:

mysql version 5.0.24a-debian_9-log

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toad-six:

perl v 5.8.8

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toad-six:

ubuntu edgy eft

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** cesman ponders what is the point of a "media center" w/o PVR capabilities.... **

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some_dude_:

hey, anyone has prebuilt osx (intel) binaries using protocol 33?

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some_dude_:

i cant get osx-packager.pl to compile svn13+

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kormoc:

svn revision 13 is rather old...

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some_dude_:

and with the snyderpad versions i keep getting this: "DecompressSequenceFrameWhen failed"

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some_dude_:

anyone has any insight or anything?

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some_dude_:

noo

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some_dude_:

heheh, i mean 13042 etc

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some_dude_:

oh well...i tried

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some_dude_:

thanks either way

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some_dude_:

i'll keep trying "anything"

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some_dude_:

is there some funky way to use mismatched protocola versions?

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some_dude_:

protocol versions for myth, like use 31 & 33 together?

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some_dude_:

or else...it seems that it is broken...

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some_dude_:

hey sigger!

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sigger_:

hey dude

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some_dude_:

tell me you have an intel based mac!

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sigger_:

heh, I would... but I'd be lyin'

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some_dude_:

eh...

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some_dude_:

:-)

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some_dude_:

so no one has an intel based mac here?

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some_dude_:

(i should have just gotten ppc one...)

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GreyFoxx:

some_ I do, but I don't have mython it :)

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some_dude_:

hehe

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some_dude_:

mython?

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some_dude_:

(p)ython?

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GreyFoxx:

You never make a typo ?:)

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some_dude_:

no notevers

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some_dude_:

j/k

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sigger_:

can anyone give me a hint re compiling mythmusic? http://pastebin.ca/394136

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sigger_:

Perhaps I'm missing some qt stuff? tr is qt.

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tha_toadman:

anyone here familiar with lirc to lend a hand?

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tha_toadman:

i plugged it in and in "lsmod" ... i don't see it running

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jams:

hi all

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some_dude_:

toadman: cat /var/log/syslog

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tha_toadman:

ok

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some_dude_:

which remote?

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some_dude_:

btw?

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tha_toadman:

snapstream firefly (RF)

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some_dude_:

http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Snapstream_Firefly <-----read it

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tha_toadman:

already did

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some_dude_:

the device isn't being recognized?

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tha_toadman:

i don't think lsmod is running "lirc_atiusb" though

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tha_toadman:

http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Lirc <---- even tried this too, no luck

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some_dude_:

modprobe lirc_atiusb

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some_dude_:

which distro?

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tha_toadman:

ubuntu 6.10

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some_dude_:

aptitude remove lirc

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some_dude_:

(whichever)

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some_dude_:

download the src

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some_dude_:

./configure

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some_dude_:

(in the directory)

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some_dude_:

chose the atiusb one

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some_dude_:

make && make install

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tha_toadman:

those are where it breaks

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some_dude_:

hmmmm

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some_dude_:

kernel source & headers installed?

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tha_toadman:

source yeah

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tha_toadman:

headers not sure

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some_dude_:

headers?

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some_dude_:

aptitude search headers

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some_dude_:

and buildutils (all the crap that should be installed if you need to compile stuff)

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tha_toadman:

what am i looking for in headers

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sigger_:

anyone? a little compiling help?

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some_dude_:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2882 . . . =lirc+nova-t <--- follow this one...but mod for your drivers

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some_dude_:

it will make sure the build env is setup

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some_dude_:

linux-headers-2.6–17 (something like that)

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tha_toadman:

i did those instructions... "unlink linux" first didn't work...?? ..then I followed up to "make" and then "make install" and it errored out

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some_dude_:

paste the error?

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some_dude_:

what does it say?

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some_dude_:

like **error 2 etc etc..

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tha_toadman:

..checkin

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some_dude_:

use pastebin

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some_dude_:

http://pastebin.com/

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some_dude_:

btw..

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tha_toadman:

ok – just a sec

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some_dude_:

not just "unlink linux"

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tha_toadman:

yeah – i tabbed it out

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some_dude_:

link it to the new src

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tha_toadman:

to ....source...etc

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some_dude_:

ln -s /usr/src/$myCrap

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some_dude_:

ln -s /usr/src/myUntaredSrc /usr/src/linux

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tha_toadman:

i'm posting at pastebin now

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tha_toadman:

LOL!!

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tha_toadman:

wow – that's not a nice command

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some_dude_:

no, your src is whatever its name is

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some_dude_:

2.6–17 (or something)

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tha_toadman:

2.6.17–10

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tha_toadman:

i'm using the alternate iso

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some_dude_:

2.6.17 (sry..smoking and drinking coffee and trying to fix my own crap all at the same tim)

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some_dude_:

time

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tha_toadman:

no worries ;-)'

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some_dude_:

and my laptop is hot...damn crappy macbooks..

[02:55:55]

tha_toadman:

i'm damn near thinking i'm gonna call it a night on this anyway...roughly 2 and a half hours working on the frontend

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some_dude_:

(but you get the picture)

[02:56:25]

some_dude_:

but it is well worth it..

[02:56:39]

some_dude_:

the reward is worth the 2hrs

[02:56:49]

some_dude_:

(just pull the svn and compile)

[02:57:47]

some_dude_:

pastebin?

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tha_toadman:

lol – i crashed it

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some_dude_:

64bit?

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tha_toadman:

that's what that warning is above

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some_dude_:

(alternate)

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tha_toadman:

no 32 bit

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some_dude_:

paste ls -l /usr/src/

[02:59:04]

some_dude_:

so we can get that out the way

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sigger_:

its worth it unless you can't get it to compile :(

[02:59:24]

some_dude_:

(heheheh...true)

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some_dude_:

i cant!

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some_dude_:

on osx :-(

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Dr_willis:

macbooks are crap? :)

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sigger_:

I'm having trouble with ubuntu, but I've done it before with approximately the same svn ver

[03:00:04]

some_dude_:

they are okay..

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Dr_willis:

Thinking about gettting a new laptop... when school starts up again

[03:00:23]

Dr_willis:

wife took mine.

[03:01:37]

some_dude_:

i have a modded svn script...but i added too much dvb stuff to it

[03:02:06]

some_dude_:

macbooks are cool...but i have a sweater on my lap...it isnt a laptop..unless you like being sterile

[03:02:15]

some_dude_:

so i guess they arent "cool"

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some_dude_:

heheh

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some_dude_:

sigger: paste the output of 'ls -l /usr/src/

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some_dude_:

'

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CharlieSu:

any good guides for getting mythfrontend on a MAC? g4

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Dr_willis:

heh – i got an old imacDV

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sigger_:

some_dude_, sure one sec

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CharlieSu:

Dr_willis: any URLs?

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Dr_willis:

nope.. the thing is in the closet :)

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Dr_willis:

i aint used it in ages

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sigger_:

some_dude_, http://pastebin.ca/394200

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some_dude_:

charlie: get it from snyderpad.com

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CharlieSu:

thanks

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some_dude_:

install it...it will work

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some_dude_:

welcome

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CharlieSu:

some_dude_: bad url

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some_dude_:

charlie: http://padilla.net/mythtv-osx <--- faster

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some_dude_:

ALOT faster

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CharlieSu:

PPC not intel

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some_dude_:

click the ppc link

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some_dude_:

in the "middle"

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some_dude_:

some_dude

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some_dude_:

where is the src?

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some_dude_:

i see the headers

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some_dude_:

where did you put the src?

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sigger_:

some_dude_, you talkin to me?

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some_dude_:

ya...sigger

[03:12:33]

sigger_:

oh, its on a network share with some other stuff

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some_dude_:

sry..i forgot my own name

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some_dude_:

ah..

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some_dude_:

move it to usr src

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some_dude_:

move it to /usr/src

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some_dude_:

untar it

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some_dude_:

it should look like this

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sigger_:

kernel source. this is what ubuntu provides. thought you were talking about my myth source which I'm having trouble compiling

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xris:

sigger_: myth usually compiles fine if you have the dependencies installed. and if you're running ubuntu, you could get that with `apt-get build-dep`

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xris:

fyi, if you're compiling from source, please tell me you're using svn trunk or svn fixes...

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sigger_:

svn trunk

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xris:

good.

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some_dude_:

he is trying to do lirc

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some_dude_:

doesnt have his kernel src

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xris:

some_dude_: you don't need the kernel source, just the headers

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sigger_:

some_dude_, I'm not trying to do lirc. that was the other guy you were talking to

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some_dude_:

AH!

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some_dude_:

(confused now)

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sigger_:

which explains why I have no idea why your asking me for kernel stuff

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some_dude_:

OKAY

[03:17:02]

some_dude_:

so i guess he fixed his problem...

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some_dude_:

sry..

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some_dude_:

(hehehehe)

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sigger_:

xris, I can't use build-dep to get deps based on source can I?

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sigger_:

some_dude_, no prob I thought i was helping you by giving you kernel paste

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some_dude_:

it was toad...

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some_dude_:

lol...thats when i became confused...sry

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some_dude_:

xris is right...thats all you need

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sigger_:

and mythtv is compiled fine. its mythplugins (mythmusic) thats giving me gried

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xris:

sigger_: build-dep pulls in the build dependencies for the packages.

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xris:

the packages may choose different options during compile than you do, but it's at least a good start

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sigger_:

ah your saying do packages so I can get deps, then compile from src?

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some_dude_:

he xris...you wouldnt happen to have .20 svn protocol 33 (past march 10th) for intel mac would you?

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some_dude_:

or a clue what this means?

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some_dude_:

DecompressSequenceFrameWhen failed

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xris:

some_dude_: sorry, no mac

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xris:

well, my wife doesn't run mythtv on her ibook

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some_dude_:

ugh...heheh..worth a shot

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xris:

sigger_: you don't need to install the packages to get at the build dep. just have the src repository enabled

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xris:

afk, need food

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some_dude_:

(for the kid..i took his tv..now i cant get his shows to work...)

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sigger_:

umm, ok, I'll play with it. thx

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tha_toadman:

some_dude: i've retired for the night – thanks alot for your help this evening

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sigger_:

wow, I feel like a tool. apt-cache search myth gives me nothing. I tried adding the Marillat debian deb-src site, but that gave nothing and isn't for ubuntu anyway. can anyone explain to the brain dead what I'm doing wrong?

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xris:

sigger_: multiverse enabled?

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sigger_:

hmm is now

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xris:

and apt-get update?

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sigger_:

and nope (after update)

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sigger_:

I got it when I added Marillat's site for etch. I'm running ubuntu. This sounds like trouble, right?

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sigger_:

argh, apt-get build-dep added another 100MB of packages that I'm really not sure I needed and compilation still fails in mythmusic at the same spot

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toad-six:

xris – i tried rebooting and nuvexport is still showing times off by 1 hr for anything before the DST switchover

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reaspired:

hello I'm running ubuntu edgy, following guide, but I get this QSettings: error creating /home/mythtv/.qt

[04:31:29]

reaspired:

Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed when trying to run backend

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toad-six:

which library would that be? a perl library?

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Dr_willis:

reaspired, that user and dir exist?

[04:33:10]

Dr_willis:

ive not tried mythtv yet under ubuntu :) but ive seen the guides. you may of just missed a step

[04:42:30]

reaspired:

well I tried loging into mythtv on my ubuntu, and it says there is no home directory, but since I put it under root group it says it would log in as root. weird

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Tanthrix:

Anyone here have any experience playing back h264/x264/WMV-HD 1080p content in linux?

[04:45:42]

Tanthrix:

Any thoughts on what CPU I should shoot for to accomplish this?

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Tanthrix:

(And did I mention I would like to do it cheap? ;-)

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sigger_:

Tanthrix, copy the linuxtechtoys.com machine

[04:51:41]

Tanthrix:

I'm afraid I'm not seeing which one you are referring to.

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Tanthrix:

They seem to have 3 on their site, and none of them look fast enough to do 1080P.

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Tanthrix:

Got a direct link?

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sigger_:

the most expensive one is the full sys,

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sigger_:

gonna get myself one sometime soon. would build it but just dont have the time

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Tanthrix:

The most expensive one I'm seeing this this one: http://www.linuxtechtoys.com/ltt/product_info . . . ducts_id/237

[04:55:59]

Tanthrix:

And I'm almost completely certain that is not near fast enough to do 1080P content.

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sigger_:

top speed AMD Athlon x2 chips available. what more could you need (or get)?

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sigger_:

oh and look at this. dunno if cpu is uppable http://store02.prostores.com/servlet/tvease/Detail?no=5

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Tanthrix:

Oh, I see. I didn't notice the upgrade thing at the bottom.

[04:59:18]

Tanthrix:

With the upgrades they both look pretty decent, but I really would to hear from someone who has a working setup doing 1080p h264.

[04:59:42]

Tanthrix:

Since it takes so damned much to do it smoothly.

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sigger_:

Tanthrix, what CPU would you expect to be able to do h264?

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sigger_:

cuz I don't think its much about the rest of the sys.

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Captain_Murdoch:

knowledgejunkie: are you around?

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Tanthrix:

That's what I'd like to find out for certain ;-) My Core 2 Duo 6400 system using VLC maxes out one of the cores during 1080p x264.

[05:02:01]

Tanthrix:

(Since VLC, and as far as I know, all if not most linux video playback apps are single threaded)

[05:02:38]

Tanthrix:

My Core 2 Duo system is windows by the way, so linux might be better.

[05:03:00]

Tanthrix:

So basically I'm wondering if I might better off with a faster single or dual core instead of a Core 2 Duo, despite the fact they are better CPUs.

[05:03:55]

sigger_:

I believe the display apps are single threaded.

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Tanthrix:

So then it makes sense to get as fast of CPU as possible then, from what I can gather, even though GHz doesn't equal pure performance.

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some_dude_:

anyone knows what thus means: DecompressSequenceFrameWhen failed <--- on an intel mac

[05:06:55]

some_dude_:

the frontend keeps doing this

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some_dude_:

and i get sound but no video

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sigger_:

prolly, tho I will be getting an athlon x2 despite this

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sigger_:

sorry dude, no idea

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ryebrye:

I'm trying to set up MythTV for my friend, and I'm on his box and using firewire out from his Motorola 6200 box – SD channels come through fine, but the HD one just goes blank and then says there is an error

[05:12:09]

ryebrye:

Looks like from the log that it's trying to read from the temporary file, but it's not being created for some reason

[05:12:35]

ryebrye:

Is this a problem with the cable box, or could it be possibly fixed if I upgrade to the SVN head?

[05:14:22]

witless:

i'm in the process of recording my first scheduled program with mythtv. however, the file is 0 bytes long. i was playing /dev/video0 with mplayer when the recording started – could this be the cause?

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witless:

(it is still recording btw)

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ryebrye:

it's still recording but it's a zero byte file?

[05:15:13]

ryebrye:

doens't sound like it's really recording then

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witless:

well the front end status shows "recording", and the program appears in media library (?)

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ryebrye:

Can you play it back in the frontend when you select it?

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witless:

no

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ryebrye:

check your backend output, it probably has an error message

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witless:

ok

[05:18:32]

witless:

MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: Error setting format ... eno: Device or resource busy (16) <--- i guess mplayer was holding /dev/video0

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ryebrye:

Yeah, that was probably the problem

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ryebrye:

Do you know anything about HD recording over firewire?

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witless:

do you know if it's possible to have it "restart/resume" recording at this point? it's still within the recording time window

[05:19:35]

witless:

no, no idea

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Captain_Murdoch:

witless: just restart your backend and it should restart the recording.

[05:20:17]

witless:

Captain_Murdoch: thanks

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witless:

yeppers

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Captain_Murdoch:

ryebrye: I don't know anything about firewire, sorry. (before you ask) :)

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some_dude_:

if there is a setting in the in the frontend...is there a way I can take it off in the backend?

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Captain_Murdoch:

huh?

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sigger_:

cesman, _trying_ to get myth compiled complete. Makes me appreciate knoppmyth all the more.

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cesman:

:)

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cesman:

that is one of the reasons I started KnoppMyth

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cesman:

that is also why I include all deps needed

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witless:

any recommendations for a deinterlace playback algorithm? i'm watching in a window on a crt monitor.

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sigger_:

I'm gearing up to do some coding and want to have my starting point compiled from svn, so I'm starting from scratch on a sandbox machine

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sigger_:

witless, which player? internal, xine?

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witless:

sigger_: internal

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sigger_:

I believe bob is available and optimal

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witless:

ok, thx

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sigger_:

np

[05:28:13]

sigger_:

(maybe "optimal" was a little strong.

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witless:

man once you get this thing running it's voodoo-cool

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sigger_:

yeah. :)

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ryebrye:

Is there some kind of program I can use to test a firewire input?

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ryebrye:

tvtime doesn't seem to like my ATI drivers

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kormoc:

tvtime wouldn't be able to use firewire anyway

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ryebrye:

That's good to know :)

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kormoc:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/FireWire

[05:32:55]

ryebrye:

I'm trying to troubleshoot why I can get sd channels out of my motorola SD-6200, but not HD

[05:33:02]

ryebrye:

cool, thanks for the likn. I'll go read that

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kormoc:

they might be encrypted or disabled by the cable co

[05:35:15]

ryebrye:

That's too bad. Is there any easy way to tell?

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kormoc:

if there is, that link will have it

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ryebrye:

k

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witless:

sometimes the front end makes my entire desktop color palette go nuts, when the myth window has focus. any ideas?

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cesman:

witless: ~/.xsession-errors?

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banyan:

hello all — what repo and package has libmp4ff.so.0 in it?

[06:22:54]

Dagmar:

use apt to search

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knowledgejunkie:

Captain_Murdoch: I'm here

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banyan:

If apt could find it I wouldn't need to ask...

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Dagmar:

So why haven't you tried using Google to find it?

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banyan:

I have a hunch that there is a livna package and a freshrpms package for faad2, but only one works.

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high-rez:

assu,ing for a moment that you're using port 3306, you can check simply by doing "netstat -an | grep 3306"

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Regner:

what am i looking for ?

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high-rez:

E.g.

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high-rez:

tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN

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high-rez:

Here mysql is bound only to localhost.

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high-rez:

So it's bound to your internally nat'd address.

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kormoc:

keep in mind, you need to allow the mythtv user to connect, via the commands in the myth docs

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high-rez:

What this tells you is that you should be able to make a TCP connection to the port that mysql is listening on. Now, mysql has some user ACL stuff that limits the hosts that users can connect from.

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Regner:

so i need to tell mysql to allow other hosts

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high-rez:

Most likely, you do. I hate the whole mysql user/host management piece, really wish pgsql was supported :(

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juski:

morning

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kormoc:

mornin'

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juski:

hey a magazine review of mythtv that goes without ever mentioning MythTV: http://openmedia.co.nz/openmedia/content/view/18/47/

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kormoc:

nice

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kormoc:

well, that's hardly a magazine or a review. that's the site that sells myPVR's

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juski:

whoops

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juski:

thought it was a linky to the actual review

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kormoc:

yeah, I've often thought that they pimp it up way too much as their own...

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juski:

on a side note, I've got to get me some cables from this place: http://www.glodark.com/audio/unique.htm

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kormoc:

ha! I need one of those Supercell Batterys

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juski:

I'm gonna stuff my speakers with that Kapak wool

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kormoc:

reminds me of http://kalecoauto.com

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juski:

rofl

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juski:

"I used to always worry about keeping those nuts on my chin spoiler. But now I never have to worry about the chin nuts slipping off! Thank you, KaleCoAuto!"

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kormoc:

Heh, I like the sparkless sparkplugs :)

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kormoc:

"Spark plugs are often misunderstood by most people. A spark plug's name is quite literal. They are designed to plug the line – and suppress any spark"

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juski:

hahaha adjustable powerband. gawd

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adante:

well at least openmedia have a mythtv link at the bottom

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adante:

apparently this sort of gratuitous use is common in southern hemisphere eg http://www.d1.com.au/hmc/

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kormoc:

fair 'nuff

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juski:

wouldn't be so bad IMHO if anything was coming in the other direction

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adante:

what do you mean?

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juski:

some call it 'giving stuff back'

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kormoc:

the openmedia guy (I believe) has been on the dev mailing list requesting features, promising features to his customers and then getting mad when the devs don't hop on them and make them real.

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kormoc:

just adding stress if nothing else

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adante:

heh, what a jackass

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juski:

and his customers find the wiki hard to use apparently

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kormoc:

I don't think it was him, but I seem to recall some company sold 'support contracts' and pointed people to the -user's mailing list as the official support channel

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adante:

yeah the d1 stuff has always bugged me.. not so much the lack of 'giving stuff back' but the fairly obvious attempt to hide (or, at best, withhold) the fact that they use myth

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adante:

but in fairness, d1 *did* make good quality australian epg guide data freely available to all mythusers (& others) for quite some time

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adante:

only came to realise how valuable that was after they stopped providing it :]

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juski:

what was the issue there? reusing data without permission?

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juski:

god I'm such a bitch this morning!

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adante:

juski: i think that was essentially it – not on d1's part, but the tv stations in aus are notoriously overprotective of their guide data

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juski:

it's all gorn quiet ...

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juski:

ls /media/dvbradio

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Dibblah:

ls: cannot access /media/dvbradio: No such file or directory

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juski:

how did you know?

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Dibblah:

You really thought ssh was secure?

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Dibblah:

;)

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juski:

heh

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juski:

the so-called equivalent LED 'bulb' produces 60 lumens. PFFT

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juski:

save energy – live in the dark!

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Merlin83b2:

How old is the research that quotes those figures, juski?

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juski:

Merlin83b: a bulb datasheet

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Merlin83b:

juski: LED stuff is advancing fast though – if it's more than 6 months old it will have been surpassed.

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juski:

brightest fixture I've found is 250 lumens – it'd take the life of the unit to pay for itself

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juski:

looks like dimmable lights at home are a thing of the past :(

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Dagmar:

juski: Well, man. The new fluorescents basically kick ass

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Dagmar:

Replace your overheads with little fluoro's and replace any nightlight bulbs with LEDs and the next time you see darkness will probably be during a blackout.

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Dagmar:

Those weird looking curled-up fluorescents last for freaking *years*

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Dagmar:

...and they definitely pay for themselves inside of 6–9 months

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Merlin83b:

My flat is all about those little halogen jobs.

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Merlin83b:

No energy saving alternative for them :(

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qu0zl:

i've tonnes of those poxy things too Merlin83b

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qu0zl:

one of the many banes of modern apartments

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shodan-:

fluorescents are no good if you want "sharp" light , I wish they made low power metal-halide lamps that last 10khours

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Dagmar:

I don't like how much heat those halogens put out

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Dagmar:

One of the nicer things about the fluoros is that, in the rare event one actually DOES burn out, you don't have to sit in the dark for 10 minutes waiting for it to cool off so you can change it without burning your @#R$@ fingers

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shodan-:

2007-03–14 00:44:27.103 DataDirect: BlockedTime is: 2007-03–14T00:44:36

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shodan-:

2007-03–14 00:44:27.104 DataDirect: NextSuggestedTime is: 2007-03–14T02:04:37

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shodan-:

does that mean I should run mythfilldatabase --update every 2 hours ?

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Dagmar:

Nope

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Dagmar:

WHen you run mythfilldatabase and it talks to DataDirect, it's given strong "hints" about when it's best to be run next to even out the load on their servers.

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Dagmar:

Basically, you don't have to dork with it manually ever again once you've told the backend it should run mythfilldatabase for you.

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Dagmar:

THis is something you turn on in the setup menus of the frontend (and is the default) IIRC

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Dagmar:

Once you've enabled it, it will run (more or less) every 24 hours

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shodan-:

ah, k , I'll do that the

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shodan-:

n

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Dagmar:

This is one of the reasons I don't care for some packagers method of chucking it into crond to run at a fixed time every day

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shodan-:

I thought that since the setting was in the frontend, that it would run mythfilldatabase on that particular frontend, that's why I was just about to set it with cron on the backend

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gbee:

juski: you need to start selling mythtv labels for Hauppauge remotes, to replace their logo :)

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Dagmar:

Maybe talk to somewhere that makes 'skins'

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juski:

gbee: no points for guessing I've already looked at getting customremotes made bearing the logo

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juski:

actually that would solve a lot of problems in one fell swoop

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juski:

if you use the 'mythtv' remote, just plug the right lircrc file in & you'd be away

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gbee:

juski: I knew you'd talked about it, didn't know if you'd actually got further than that

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juski:

not that users can correctly copy a file to the right place

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juski:

yeah I'm still waiting for a quote

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gbee:

juski: aye, would be good

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Merlin83b:

juski: Got a design we can look at?

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juski:

Merlin83b: no online piccies

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Merlin83b:

Meanie :-P

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juski:

I'll try to find one that looks similar enough

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gbee:

crap, the example lircrc for the hauppauge remote must be for an old version – has things like Text/Subtitles bound to Stop and ChanUp/ChanDown to Up/Down

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shodan-:

what is the "proper" way to rename a file ? is there an utility to do that like mythrename.pl ? I want to rename "2007-03–01, 23h30 – The Colbert Report, (1625).nuv" to "2007-03–01, 23h30 – The Colbert Report, (1625).mp4" (but only this one file, I need a way I can run from a script)

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gbee:

the one I've just got has seperate Text, SUbtitile and chanup/down buttons

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juski:

shodan-: sounds like you need a script containing some mysql-fu

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gardengnome:

hello guys

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Dagmar:

Or just hack up mythrename a bit

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gardengnome:

or just edit the DB ;)

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juski:

oh noes! we ran out of clues to hand out

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** gardengnome fires up the clue-o-magic **

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gardengnome:

oy! it's stuck on RTFM!

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gardengnome:

;)

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juski:

I'm finding out where we get our remotes made...

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juski:

jesus!

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gardengnome:

somewhere in asia, i bet. ;)

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juski:

27 key remote... cost on a bill of materials is

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mrfree:

hi all

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juski:

0.29 GBP !

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Merlin83b:

Whee!

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gardengnome:

i'll take 5

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Merlin83b:

100k asterisk users, sell em for a fiver, nigh on half a million profit ;-)

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juski:

the manufacturer has the most un-googlable name in history

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shodan-:

how about something like this ? --> echo "UPDATE recorded SET basename='2007-03–01, 23h30 – The Colbert Report, (1625).mp4' where basename='2007-03–01, 23h30 – The Colbert Report, (1625).nuv';" | mysql -p mypassword -u mythtv -h echelon

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Merlin83b:

a tech inc

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Merlin83b:

.29 GBP based on an order of how many?

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Merlin83b:

Pictures?

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Merlin83b:

Information juski, dammit :-P

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praet:

shodan-: i think you need to select your proper database (append mythtvconverg to that command)

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praet:

shodan-: you can try with a select script

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juski:

Merlin83b: we go through a lot. one per unit sold

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kslater_:

it's always wise to test your update with a select, unless you just don't care about the data

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shodan-:

ah yes, forgot that

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Merlin83b:

I'll bet, but you don't order them from the suppliers one at a time...

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shodan-:

praet, hmm , what's a select script ? some sql function or just bash script that does some error checking before sending the request to the sql server ?

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juski:

arghhhh fecking Access has crashed

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praet:

shodan-: yes a mysql select script in exchange of making a database change

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gardengnome:

svn, or the google code repositories, can be really annoying *sigh*

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juski:

I'll rephrase that – Access has crashed & cannot be closed

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juski:

god I wish we used mysql – I could make my own db query webpages

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praet:

ms access? doing win32 dev today juski

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juski:

I USE access

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juski:

because I'm forced to

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praet:

convince them to upgrade

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praet:

there are plenty of weaknessess to access

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juski:

it's crashed again! bah

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gardengnome:

yay for useless zealotry

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juski:

I might have to try rebooting

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praet:

is it a mdb file too ? or are you accessing a different backend

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praet:

mdb files have a 10 connection limit for example

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juski:

christ knows

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shodan-:

juski, you want "pskill.exe access.exe" hehe

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shodan-:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals . . . /pskill.mspx

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juski:

and it's crashed again

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juski:

I give up

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kslater_:

extract the data to a local mysql db

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praet:

also processexplorer is what i install on the office machines to replace the taskmanager

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juski:

I was gonan do a 'where used' on the part # I found to verify it's what I think it is

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Dagmar:

Cygwin makes Win32 liveable, IMHO

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kslater_:

cygwin is a must on windohs. I'd go bonkers without it

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shodan-:

bah, windows is just a platform for putty

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kslater_:

well you don't need putty with openssh in cygwin. ;-)

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Dagmar:

"just a platform for putty" lolk

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praet:

yeah putty is great. at home the family machine is win32 and the only was to modify the tv is through putty

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juski:

anyway later I need petrol

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shodan-:

probably not until cablecardv2 gets mainstream

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Ryushin:

Is that spec even officially done yet?

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shodan-:

I think so, the wikipedia isn't that clear but it says cablecard device should be available before the end of the year

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shodan-:

is cablecard just a CAM ?? I thought it was some sort of input ?

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juski:

oh forget that already

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juski:

cablecard on linux?

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Dagmar:

shodan-: WIkipedia is a Pollyanna

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praet:

Dag, i had to wikipedia what pollyanna meant

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gbee:

lmao

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sigger:

gbee, since you're here, if you have a sec. something's wrong with my compiling mythmusic. Its failing on DatabaseBox.cpp telling me that DatabaseBox isn't declared, when it quite obviously (to me) is.

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gbee:

sigger: is this an unmodified checkout?

[12:51:30]

sigger:

yes

[12:51:52]

gbee:

odd

[12:51:59]

sigger:

svn up'ed last night about 12:00 GMT-5

[12:52:36]

gbee:

latest svn works fine and the last change to databasebox was a long time ago

[12:53:27]

sigger:

I made sure to call it "my compiling mythmusic" because clearly its something on my end.

[12:53:46]

sigger:

thought mentioning the spot where it fails might trigger a thought on what's wrong.

[12:54:24]

gbee:

sigger: nothing comes to mind, have you got the precise error?

[12:54:44]

sigger:

sure, I'll pastebin

[12:55:32]

sigger:

http://pastebin.ca/394575

[12:55:46]

sigger:

it continues on with more, similar errors

[12:56:58]

sigger:

as part of attempting to cure, I turned off access to distcc servers, hence those messages. shouldn't affect it tho.

[12:57:01]

gbee:

hmm, the line numbers are all out by 5

[12:57:09]

adnick56:

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows why the delete and delete & rerecord buttons would not show up in mythweb. Everything else is perfect and i am using the svn release of myth?

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sigger:

I may have added a single blank line just to make sure it was reading the same file I was looking at. but not 5 lines.

[12:58:42]

sigger:

want to see the first 21 lines?

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gbee:

sigger: yeah

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sigger:

I went hog wild. 25 lines I think http://pastebin.ca/394580

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gbee:

hehe, no wonder it's failing – it's missing a bunch of headers including databasebox.h

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praet:

gbee: are you a dev?

[13:03:23]

gbee:

depends

[13:03:31]

praet:

what do you work on

[13:04:31]

gbee:

misc stuff – mythfilldatabase and mythmusic lately, before that parts of mythfrontend

[13:04:45]

sigger:

argh. Just looked at trac. yeah mine is short those lines.

[13:05:17]

sigger:

but no idea why svn up wouldn't have done it. I can fix this. Thank you very much.

[13:05:49]

sigger:

btw, been taking a very close look at adding mpd as a decoder. I think its doable.

[13:06:31]

gbee:

sigger: if the file was modified before 'svn up' was run, then it would only merge in new changes and not revert old ones – but why those lines were removed I don't know

[13:07:01]

gbee:

sigger: glad to hear, good luck with it

[13:07:05]

sigger:

one structural difference that I have to look at is the difference in how playlists are kept. mythmusic internal keeps its own playlist. mpd keeps its own playlist. just a matter of keeping them in sync.

[13:07:54]

sigger:

there's no current way to "send a playlist to the player" cause that's just not how it works right now. but that shouldn't be too tough.

[13:08:05]

sigger:

and thanks for the well wishes.

[13:09:33]

** gbee figures he obviously doesn't work on the area that praet was interested in **

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praet:

heh

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adnick56:

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows why the delete and delete & rerecord buttons would not show up in mythweb? Everything else is perfect and i am using the svn release of myth.

[13:14:29]

sigger:

gbee, all good now. crikey I spent a couple hours on that last night. someone even thought it was lib related (though I couldn't see how) and had me DL another say 100MB of stuff.

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gbee:

eek

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sigger:

ya, I may actually nuke the whole install and start over just to keep it clean.

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praet:

adnick56: maybe ask xris when he comes around

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adnick56:

ok thanks

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juski:

let's try the access thing again...

[13:40:16]

Beirdo:

well, trying to get SystemRescueCD to boot PXE has been a colossal waste of time

[13:41:07]

Beirdo:

I got it to boot to where it ran the entire init sequence, but then suddenly it somehow deconfigured the network? it couldn't see the NFS server anymore, so the NFS root was kaput.

[13:41:21]

Beirdo:

and I couldn't ping the machine either.

[13:42:04]

Beirdo:

f'in gentoo abomination

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juski:

ahh the remote I was thinking of is much more expensice

[13:42:59]

juski:

*expensive

[13:43:07]

juski:

Â£1.10 GBP

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gbee:

ouch

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Merlin83b:

That's hardly a lot though, for a remote that matches up properly with MythTV's functionality.

[13:44:34]

Beirdo:

1.10 pounds is a lot?

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Beirdo:

that's what? $3US?

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Beirdo:

I think I'm missing something here :)

[13:45:11]

praet:

2.13$

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juski:

http://www.thomson.net/EN/Home/Technology/tec . . . acturers.htm

[13:45:49]

Merlin83b:

It's more expensive in comparison to the 29 pence one earlier but it absolute terms it's quite cheap.

[13:45:51]

juski:

look for the 'dolphin' model

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Beirdo:

oooh

[13:46:11]

Beirdo:

heh

[13:46:28]

Beirdo:

it costs less than a cup of coffee at Starbucks though :)

[13:46:42]

gardengnome:

starbucks has got to be terribly overrated.

[13:46:45]

Merlin83b:

Thought you were looking into a custom one, juski?

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Beirdo:

gardengnome, it's OK. I'd rather get coffee at a Vienna cafe though :)

[13:47:26]

gardengnome:

Beirdo: it's just caffeine, silly.

[13:47:35]

juski:

Merlin83b: they do do custom

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Beirdo:

when we were in Vienna, we walked right past a huge crowded Starbucks and instead went to the tiny cafe just down the street... that was empty, cheaper and better coffee

[13:47:52]

Merlin83b:

So you're going to order a thousand and sell them?

[13:47:54]

Merlin83b:

;-)

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gardengnome:

Beirdo: i've become a big fan of schokakola. it's chocolate mixed with caffeine <3

[13:48:05]

juski:

I wonder what the MOQ is

[13:48:13]

Beirdo:

not bad

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Beirdo:

I make myself coffee every day...

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[13:48:49]

Beirdo:

we have coffee from Dominican Republic, although Puerto Rico grows decent coffee locally too

[13:49:13]

adnick56:

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows why the delete and delete & rerecord buttons would not show up in mythweb? Everything else is perfect and i am using the svn release of myth.

[13:49:14]

Beirdo:

every time a friend/family member goes over to DR, we get them to bring back coffee from Santo Domingo :) I like it

[13:50:09]

gardengnome:

Beirdo: coffee is no good for my stomach. i prefer tea if it's got to be a beverage. coffee is ok, though, if there's nothing else

[13:50:10]

** Beirdo chucks a wireless mouse at gardengnome **

[13:50:22]

Beirdo:

coffee is a must for me :)

[13:50:23]

Beirdo:

hehe

[13:50:37]

** gardengnome gets out the hockey stick **

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Beirdo:

oh, and I make it in the espresso machine. and drink it black

[13:51:05]

** Beirdo is a coffee junkie **

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adnick56:

:) mmmmmmm coffeeeeeee

[14:00:12]

praet:

Beirdo: that would make it espresso then wouldnt it?

[14:00:30]

praet:

id like to have a machine in the office

[14:00:32]

gardengnome:

praet: let's call it caffeine syrup

[14:05:41]

Beirdo:

hehe

[14:05:48]

Beirdo:

pretty much espresso, yes

[14:06:00]

Beirdo:

but I don't put in the same quantity of coffee, etc

[14:06:11]

Beirdo:

definitely STRONG coffee :)

[14:07:13]

Dagmar:

I'm usually just happy using double grounds and double filters

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

a bunch of regular junkies, we are

[14:09:54]

adnick56:

mmm im liking this caramel machiado...

[14:11:53]

Hoxzer:

:/ Only thing I dont like in coffee is that it ruins your teeth :E

[14:12:09]

Beirdo:

meh, what's a little staining?

[14:16:12]

gardengnome:

start smoking. ;)

[14:16:35]

Beirdo:

hah

[14:16:42]

Beirdo:

you forget, I used to smoke cigars

[14:16:43]

Beirdo:

:)

[14:17:10]

Beirdo:

woman > cigar

[14:17:12]

Beirdo:

:)

[14:17:23]

Hoxzer:

:E women = useless

[14:17:31]

Beirdo:

bah

[14:17:50]

gardengnome:

common sense > smoking

[14:17:57]

rm_you:

lol

[14:18:26]

Beirdo:

yeah, you teach that to all the other Europeans who can't stop :)

[14:19:13]

gardengnome:

times are a-changing ;)

[14:23:36]

Dagmar:

Thankfully, this sort of insanity breeds itself out.

[14:24:09]

Beirdo:

you haven't been to the south of the US, I take it

[14:24:22]

Dagmar:

I live there.

[14:24:43]

Dagmar:

Low population counts don't happen all by themselves.

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

but the percent of smokers...

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Beirdo:

not as high as in Austria, mind

[14:25:34]

Beirdo:

damn, they were allowed to smoke inside the building at work, ffs

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gardengnome:

they've banned smoking at schools here like.. two years ago. ;)

[14:25:51]

Dagmar:

It's called "supporting the local product" mainly

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Dagmar:

Even in the Teacher's Lounge?

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Beirdo:

and they'll enforce it in.... 20 years?

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Beirdo:

I have a friend in TN who's always complaining he needs more money... but he smokes 2 packs of Marlboros a day

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Beirdo:

hmmm, cause-effect?!

[14:29:41]

Dagmar:

Hrm... I gotta call for some renter's insurance this morning.

[14:29:55]

Dagmar:

Getting an apartment on the river seemed like an okay deal, until this morning.

[14:30:10]

Beirdo:

flood season is upon you?

[14:30:11]

Dagmar:

If a particular dam fails, water levels on the river are supposed to go up about 20 feet

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gardengnome:

Dagmar: it was mainly the teachers who smoked in the building, but only in the teacher's lounge. students were banned to the pavement ;)

[14:30:22]

Beirdo:

which river?

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Dagmar:

...and the dam currently has the TVA in a bit of a tizzy.

[14:30:36]

Beirdo:

oh. Tennesee River

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Dagmar:

The Cumberland... the open sewer of TN.

[14:30:53]

Beirdo:

eek, smelly too?

[14:31:06]

Dagmar:

20ft is just high enough to be right at the banks, and we have hellish rains coming up for the next month or two

[14:31:42]

Dagmar:

RedBull is doing their Flugtag thing in Nashville this summer, and I'm going to go just to see how many people take one look at the water and just go back home.

[14:31:53]

Dagmar:

I imagine some people's crafts will hit that water and just dissolve.

[14:31:59]

Beirdo:

I saw some areas in Tennessee that were often flooded (along the southern border)... Beats me why anyone would want to live in that particular area

[14:32:18]

Dagmar:

The weather keeps you on your toes;

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praet:

Dag, last year we had a big rainstorm, and the river reached a bridge height that caused the water to rise double high.. 1st floor ruined, but thats what you get for living in 'waterfall view apartmet's

[14:32:41]

Beirdo:

having to build your house like 20–30 feet up on stilts... maybe don't live on a flood plain :) Dunno

[14:33:13]

Beirdo:

yeah, so I gathered

[14:33:25]

Dagmar:

Like, enough that I was a total asshole to some poor airport workers a few years back before DefC0n when Vegas got "two whole inches" of rain

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Beirdo:

hehehe

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Dagmar:

I could not believe the devastation two inches wreaked on that place

[14:34:02]

Dagmar:

Two inches of rain isn't enough to really make people break out the umbrellas here.

[14:34:11]

Beirdo:

just like a half-inch of snow in Washington DC

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Beirdo:

chaos

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praet:

heh

[14:34:29]

Dagmar:

Oh better than that

[14:34:38]

praet:

how much snow is = to one inch of rain?

[14:34:41]

Dagmar:

THe desert invaded the city on a raging torrent of floodwater

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Dagmar:

They were still bulldozing dunes out of the strip when our plane was finally allowed to land

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Beirdo:

not sure, praet, likely 3 or 4?

[14:35:11]

Dagmar:

I thought it was 12 inches of snow per one inch of rain

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Beirdo:

that much? it's possible

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praet:

well the weather has been erratic this year..

[14:35:51]

Dagmar:

I have *yet* to see 12 inches of snow in Nashville

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praet:

it seems that everyone gets sick when you have one cold day, one warm, one cold etc

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Dagmar:

Usually we just get a couple of inches of ice, and then we're back in 1820

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praet:

no electricity?

[14:36:19]

Beirdo:

hehe, yeah ice is always a joy

[14:36:34]

adnick56:

lol i was ice fishing on a foot of ice yesterday

[14:36:34]

juski:

hrm

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Dagmar:

praet: when it rips down 80% of the power lines like it did about 7 years ago, yep. No power.

[14:36:40]

Beirdo:

thank GOD there's none of that crap here in PR

[14:36:48]

Dagmar:

Interesting lightshow in the evening tho as substation after substation exploded

[14:36:58]

Beirdo:

a nice change after a lifetime in Canada :)

[14:37:13]

juski:

tick

[14:37:13]

juski:

tock

[14:37:13]

juski:

tick.. etc

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Beirdo:

juski, you OK?

[14:38:34]

Beirdo:

not pretending to be a suicide bomber, I hope

[14:40:16]

Beirdo:

let's see how the Sol10 reinstall is doing

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Beirdo:

32MB to go, good timing

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praet:

do power lines give off any heaty?

[14:45:31]

Beirdo:

they shouldn't give off appreciable heat, no

[14:45:50]

Beirdo:

otherwise they have intrinsic resistance, which means there is power loss

[14:46:35]

Beirdo:

well, they have SOME intrinsic resistance, but the goal of the power companies is to not lose much power in transmission, so that is kept as low as is possible

[14:47:00]

Beirdo:

if I remember the power systems stuff from university 10 years ago :)

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heanol:

is there any mini-itx/nano-itx capable of 1080p or 720p?

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juski:

heanol: doubt it very much

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juski:

20 mins to go :)

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heanol:

perhaps it would be able to.

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juski:

just found out the MOQ on those remotes

[15:16:32]

juski:

are you ready guys?

[15:16:58]

juski:

eighteen thousand pieces

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Dagmar:

WOW

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Merlin83b:

lol

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Merlin83b:

Â£19,800 then.

[15:20:00]

Merlin83b:

Off you go, juski :)

[15:20:45]

heanol:

could a core duo cpu play 1080p material?

[15:21:17]

quicksilver:

heanol: I believe apple claim their h.264 codec can do it on a core 2 duo

[15:21:30]

quicksilver:

I think it's stretching things though

[15:22:02]

heanol:

reading this.. http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comm . . . _plays_fine/

[15:22:05]

heanol:

it looks like it

[15:22:46]

heanol:

that mini-itx should be able to do it then :S

[15:22:58]

heanol:

unless mac minis have some other acceleration?

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quicksilver:

heanol: they might delegate some of the work to the GPU. I honestly don't know.

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juski:

lol

[15:27:07]

quicksilver:

apparently it doesn't

[15:27:12]

quicksilver:

although they plan to in future macs

[15:27:49]

quicksilver:

I strongly suspect 'less than half the computing power' means it is 720p

[15:28:15]

quicksilver:

but anyway, I don't think 1080p is going to be an issue for video; no one is planning 1080p broadcasts or media AFAIK

[15:28:28]

quicksilver:

PS3 games are the only significant 1080p app at the moment?

[15:31:21]

heanol:

quicksilver: well there's alot of downloadable material in 1080p ;)

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adnick56:

Hi, I was wondering if anyone would know why the delete and delete & rerecord buttons on the recorded programs page of mythweb would not show up?

[15:38:23]

adnick56:

I am using the svn of myth tv and mythweb.

[15:39:05]

kslater_:

heanol – the other source of 1080p content is BluRay or HD-DVD discs

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Dagmar:

By the way, there's apparently a model of the 7600 out now with HDMI, sans silly encumbrances

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RyeBrye:

Is there any speed benefit to running MythTV on 64 bit linux versus i686 on an AMD64 bit system? (if I recompile from SVN and tune it for AMD64?)

[16:09:59]

Dagmar:

Maybe, and this is a big maybe, a 5% speed increase.

[16:10:04]

Dagmar:

On a very good day.

[16:10:26]

dustybin:

excellent news

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dustybin:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6449213.stm

[16:10:41]

RyeBrye:

Ok. I'm setting up a box for a friend, and he didn't tell me he had a AMD64 system – so when I iwent over I only had the DVD of i686 linux

[16:11:12]

Dr_willis:

that will work..

[16:11:22]

RyeBrye:

Does the current head svn version of the mythtv-firewire branch compile and run okay?

[16:11:26]

Dr_willis:

you dont gain much at all from a 64bit disrto these days

[16:12:03]

Dagmar:

RyeBrye: The difference is so minimal you'd be hard pressed to justify reinstalling a fully 64-bit install later

[16:12:21]

RyeBrye:

Yeah, I wont bother with it

[16:12:51]

Dr_willis:

plus if you got problems later. you always wonder if its a 64bit issue.. or some other issue

[16:12:53]

kslater_:

so the multi-core AMD64 parts, those will get fully used with a 32bit Linux distro?

[16:12:56]

kslater_:

in general?

[16:13:03]

RyeBrye:

ATI video cards don't support xvmc, but do they support any other accelerated video playback?

[16:13:11]

Dr_willis:

Ive been using 32bit disrto on my amd stuff for years.

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Dagmar:

Who the hell has baclava in their purse?

[16:14:57]

Dagmar:

Do they keep borscht in their change purse?

[16:14:57]

sigger:

kslater: you're not my Reznick guy are you (you'll know what that means if you are)?

[16:16:23]

RyeBrye:

I loaded his system up and tested doing an HD Capture over firewire last night and the playback S U C K E D big time on 1080p... then I realized in the log it was saying it couldn't enable xvmc...

[16:16:24]

gbee:

won't really argue the subject, because I can't honestly say that it applies universally, but I found the 64bit OS to run faster/better than 32bit on the same 64bit system

[16:16:32]

kslater_:

sigger – nope

[16:16:42]

RyeBrye:

We swapped in his nVidia card and then loaded on Nvidia binary drivers and the playback was a smooth as butter

[16:16:57]

Dagmar:

ATI is the debil

[16:17:18]

RyeBrye:

Yeah. Not having xvmc support in the linux driver makes it about as useful for mythtv uses as a boat anchor

[16:17:19]

sigger:

heh, ok. would have been funny if you were a guy working on one of our companies audited financials.

[16:19:33]

quicksilver:

kslater_: my understanding is that neither bluray nor HD-DVD will typically be 1080p

[16:19:33]

RyeBrye:

anyone here running with a build of the Mythtv-firewire branch?

[16:20:06]

kslater_:

quicksilver – that contradicts what the HT-Guys have been saying in their podcasts

[16:20:27]

kslater_:

I don't have either so I couldn't say

[16:20:40]

kslater_:

should be easy to verify if it's in the specs though.

[16:21:37]

quicksilver:

kslater_: they're just files on disk, so in principle they can containt what they want

[16:21:39]

dustybin:

RyeBrye: what kind of display are u using for myth

[16:22:12]

quicksilver:

kslater_: but my understanding is that the lack of storage spaces means the studios are not planning to distribute films in 1080p

[16:22:23]

quicksilver:

kslater_: although in principle shorter features might be

[16:22:42]

kslater_:

interesting – BluRay has what? 50G of space?

[16:22:49]

quicksilver:

yes

[16:23:24]

kslater_:

so what would a 1080p recording at 27Mb/s take if it was a 2hr movie?

[16:23:30]

** kslater_ goes for a calculator **

[16:23:42]

quicksilver:

depends on the codec, mostly :P

[16:24:34]

kslater_:

good point

[16:25:26]

qu0zl:

even uncompressed you'd fit 5 hours worth of 27Mb/s in 50 gigs, wouldn'

[16:25:29]

qu0zl:

wouldn't you?

[16:25:32]

kslater_:

so a 1080i from nbc at 14.5Mb/s took 11G for 2 hrs in mpg2

[16:26:09]

kslater_:

so figure double that and you still only get to 22G for 2 hours

[16:26:17]

kslater_:

in mpeg2

[16:27:04]

kslater_:

I think HD DVD has like 30G capacity?

[16:27:52]

kslater_:

what I've heard is that content providers will favor 1080p @ 24fps for the HD disc formats, but that's just what I've heard.

[16:28:17]

kslater_:

the 24fps maps nicely to the film format most content starts out as

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onewheelskyward:

Yep, HD DVD has 15 gigs per layer as launched.

[16:40:21]

onewheelskyward:

There's been a prototype rumored that has increased the total capacity to 45 gigs.

[16:40:47]

onewheelskyward:

Toshiba added a third layer, apparently.

[16:42:28]

RyeBrye:

If I'm running an i686 kernel on AMD64 hardware, what should I set the tune parameter in when I build mythtv from source?

[16:42:38]

RyeBrye:

or the arch that is

[16:43:59]

juski:

heanol: there's a lot of downloadable software out there – doesn't mean everything's legal & should be encouraged.

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knowledgejunkie:

RyeBrye: try k8

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RyeBrye:

for --arch and --tune?

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adnick56:

Hi, I was wondering if anyone would know why the delete and delete & rerecord buttons on the recorded programs page of mythweb would not show up?

[16:45:31]

knowledgejunkie:

RyeBrye: --cpu

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knowledgejunkie:

adnick56: PHP problem, bad SVN checkout, permissions?

[16:48:46]

Dagmar:

bit weevils

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praet:

adnick56: i see "delete_rerecord" in release-0-20-fixes/mythplugins/mythweb/modules/tv/tmpl/default/recorded.php

[16:49:20]

adnick56:

how might i go about trouble shooting that i know its not a permissions problem in my mythweb directory

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adnick56:

i am using svn

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praet:

well if the buttons are there or not will depend on the php, not permissions

[16:50:17]

adnick56:

ok what could be wrong with php to cause this problem?

[16:50:35]

Dagmar:

Maybe having the wrong version of PHP installed.

[16:50:44]

Dagmar:

...but I still blame bit weevils.

[16:50:54]

praet:

adnick56: when you load recorded.php does it display the delete and rerecord link?

[16:51:35]

praet:

adnick56: also it depends on what theme/template you are using (default or compact)

[16:51:43]

adnick56:

default

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adnick56:

no the link is not displayed

[16:52:13]

adnick56:

when i click on the recorded programs link at the top of mythweb

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Dagmar:

You can always do `modprobe /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/acpi/*.ko`

[16:52:39]

praet:

ok go to your mythweb dir on your computer, and open up this file 'modules/tv/tmpl/default/recorded.php'

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adnick56:

ok can i do that remotely? i can acess mythweb from where i am

[16:56:32]

adnick56:

i tried to and it said unknown module

[16:56:54]

mcquaid:

not specifically myth related, but I want to stream my myth videos to boxes outside this network. I'd like to be also able to access mythweb to schedule recordings on the go if need be.

[16:56:55]

praet:

are you logged into the machine that mythweeb is installed on

[16:57:02]

adnick56:

"An unknown module was Specified"

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mcquaid:

Problem is I don't have access to the router I'm behind. Is there some type of nat traversal I can employ to work around this?

[16:57:17]

adnick56:

yes i am

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adnick56:

through putty

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praet:

ok

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praet:

/var/www/html/mythweb

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adnick56:

mine is actually /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb

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praet:

mcquaid: youd have to publish your webserver at the router..

[16:58:56]

adnick56:

but im there

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praet:

ok does this directory tree branch from there? modules/tv/tmpl/default/

[16:59:45]

mcquaid:

hmm, not sure i understand publish, normally if I had access to the router it would be a matter of port forwarding no?

[17:00:09]

adnick56:

yes

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adnick56:

and im there now

[17:00:18]

praet:

mcquaid: right.. port forward tcpip 80 to a webserver

[17:00:59]

mcquaid:

ok, but if I don't have access to the router I'm sol?

[17:01:28]

praet:

ok, you can vi recorded.php and manually check for rerecord

[17:03:15]

praet:

mcquaid: a lot of times multiple sites are published at a router, all on port 80, and filtered by header request (www.something.com) but you could ask for a non standard port publish, then set apache to host on that port

[17:03:33]

praet:

like http://myiporwww:1080

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adnick56:

Alright im in that file but what exactly am i looking for?

[17:03:59]

praet:

adnick56: check for differences compared to http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . hp?rev=13025

[17:04:24]

praet:

for example, check that line 340 (delete and rerecord) matches

[17:04:43]

praet:

in vi type n340

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adnick56:

ok i dont have vi

[17:05:23]

adnick56:

i do have nano

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praet:

well watever program

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Dagmar:

Then press arrow down three hundred and forty times.

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adnick56:

lol

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Dagmar:

Count carefully

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praet:

actually i think the vi command is 340G

[17:06:03]

Dagmar:

colon 340 works too

[17:06:17]

mcquaid:

btw, Ii'n ubuntu using .20. I recently saw on the ubuntu forums a rep with .20 + a recent svn snapshot. Is there anything new of significance that I might want to upgrade?

[17:06:34]

gardengnome:

if you have to ask, you don't want to run svn trunk ;)

[17:06:34]

mcquaid:

I believe opengl playback is in svn but thats all I know

[17:06:53]

praet:

adnick56: you can open nano +340 recorded.php

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praet:

to move the cursor to a line

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gardengnome:

mcquaid: it's in the mythtv-vid branch

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adnick56:

ok :)

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praet:

also in nano CTRL + _

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mcquaid:

well, one issue I have one of my clients is unstable and locks (not a myth related issue). But when this client locks up while watching live tv, the backend never releases the tuner until restarting the backend

[17:08:48]

mcquaid:

if that was fixed in svn I would probably try

[17:09:21]

mcquaid:

it says the tuner is in use in the system info, but if I go into recordings there isn't actually anything recording

[17:09:27]

gbee:

mcquaid: opengl playback _isn't_ in svn trunk

[17:09:40]

gbee:

nevermind, missed gardengnome saying the same

[17:09:45]

mcquaid:

And I've let it sit a few hours, it never times out

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mcquaid:

Hmm, I thought opengl was, I remember reading that awhile ago.

[17:10:26]

gbee:

mcquaid: that issue isn't fixed in svn, but strangely enough it's being worked on atm

[17:10:42]

mcquaid:

ah cool at least it's a known issue

[17:11:04]

adnick56:

ok i checked the lines are identical

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mcquaid:

and i wouldn't really care about opengl but I grabbed some gf 6200's for cheap not knowing that they don't really have hardware overlay anymore

[17:11:29]

mcquaid:

wtf would nvidia remove that

[17:11:40]

mcquaid:

so I don't have access to brightness,contrast etc without opengl

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Dagmar:

Basically, to make us all crazy

[17:11:45]

mcquaid:

heh

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Dagmar:

Not _all_ of them are missing it, too.

[17:11:58]

mcquaid:

really? strange

[17:12:19]

Dagmar:

Yes, it's great fun trying to tell people how to figure out if their card supports it or not

[17:13:21]

Dagmar:

Like, right now I can't even remember what command it is other than it's not xdpyinfo, but it does start with 'x'.

[17:14:36]

Dagmar:

xvinfo I *think*

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adnick56:

praet the lines are identical anything else i could check? Or is it possible i have the wrong version of php installed or a php config set wrong?

[17:15:30]

RyeBrye:

When building myth from source, I am trying to get it to link to my libXvMCNVIDIA but it seems to want to link to libXvMCW – and on the output it says the opengl-xvmc is off... how can I get it to recognize my libXvMCNVIDIA in /usr/lib ?

[17:15:52]

gardengnome:

RyeBrye: why do you want to enable opengl-xvmc?

[17:16:26]

RyeBrye:

doesn't opengl-xvmc provide faster output acceleration?

[17:16:43]

Dagmar:

It provides bugs

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gardengnome:

i don't know. i think it's broken.

[17:16:46]

gardengnome:

yep

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Dagmar:

It's not on by default for a reason

[17:17:02]

Dagmar:

Just trust what it picks by default

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Dagmar:

ALl I ever get with that option enabled is a _black screen_

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RyeBrye:

Oh, that's not too interesting to watch

[17:17:38]

Dagmar:

...oh and the occasional complete system lockup in the program guide when the thumbnailer kicks in

[17:18:07]

Dagmar:

XvMC is fine (and you can't really avoid it linking the NVidia version) without it trying to entangle opengl

[17:18:20]

Dagmar:

...and openGL functions separately from XvMC just fine

[17:18:42]

Dagmar:

The two together are like potassium and water

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RyeBrye:

Gotcha.

[17:19:20]

RyeBrye:

Now I've just got to get it to say "yes" to firewire and I'll probably be good to go :)

[17:19:30]

Sembiance:

mmm... I love my new HDTV mythtv recording.

[17:19:56]

Sembiance:

About 4 or 5 years ago I set up a MythTV server with 5 internal PVR 250 hardware encoding cards. I only had analog TV in my area, so this was just great.

[17:20:05]

Sembiance:

But since moving to Boston... I've craved for just as many HD recorders

[17:20:46]

Sembiance:

Problem is PCI card space is a premium. I ended up just buying two external HDHomerun boxes, and upgraded to a gigabit ethernet network just to be safe. Things work great :)

[17:21:27]

praet:

Sembiance: im on east coast.. how are you getting hd down

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praet:

like over the air

[17:22:38]

Sembiance:

I first tried over the air

[17:22:54]

Sembiance:

But after a week or so of that, I had too many messed up recordings

[17:23:06]

Sembiance:

So I switched to QAM on cable

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Sembiance:

(I think that's the right wording)

[17:23:46]

Sembiance:

It was a bigger pain, because I had to first manually identify each and every channel and tie them together with a zap labs XML ID for that channel, but once that was done things are going great

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praet:

who is your provider for QAM over cable

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Sembiance:

Comcast

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Sembiance:

I get like 3 PBS stations in HDTV, all the networks (ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, CW/UPN), all the public access stations are viewable and maybe about 10 others. All together, a lot actually.

[17:27:18]

mcquaid:

I live in canada, besides ota, from what I've read rogers and symaptico encrypt their stations so I'd be pretty much screwed trying to use them with myth with a atsc card no?

[17:27:41]

Dagmar:

I thought ATSC was for over-the-air broadcasts

[17:27:42]

mcquaid:

and I read in the us, that on customers request, they have to enable the firewire port, but isn't that encrypted as well?

[17:28:16]

mcquaid:

ok this stuff is new to me, just been dealing with analog, so I might have my acronyms screwed up

[17:28:36]

mcquaid:

but from what I've read, in canada my options are pretty limited

[17:28:51]

mcquaid:

I'm surprised the US doesn't encrypt their stations?

[17:29:16]

Dagmar:

Well, in the US they'll give you a box with a firewire port if you ask, but some markets have decided to interpret that as "give the user a box with a firewire port and laugh as we've encrypted all the channels"

[17:29:46]

Dagmar:

It varies from provider to provider and market to market as to how useful the firewire port on a digital cable box is going to be.

[17:30:27]

Dagmar:

In most places the "premium" channels are going to be encrypted

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mcquaid:

what about on demand stuff, is that usually encrypted to?

[17:30:54]

Dagmar:

I've not heard of the channel-changing functionality over firewire being disabled yet, so that's at least something.

[17:31:01]

Dagmar:

mcquiad: Probably so

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Dagmar:

...with the justification that "It's already on tap when they need it, why would they need to record it?"

[17:32:06]

mcquaid:

hmm, sounds like it's going to kind of suck when analog is gone. What year is that scheduled for again. is it 2009?

[17:32:12]

Beirdo:

which is a pretty valid statement

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mcquaid:

ya that is valid as far as on demand goes.

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Beirdo:

mcquaid, in Canada? I thought the CRTC had ruled against mandating that

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Beirdo:

(all digital that is)

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mcquaid:

really? didn't know that

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mcquaid:

i guess i assumed canada was going to follow suit

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Beirdo:

they had a few years back, but check their site

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Beirdo:

it's not feasable

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Beirdo:

how are you gonna do ATSC and cover all of the prairies?

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GreyFoxx:

the CRTC has not mandated anything on that yet

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Beirdo:

just not worth the cost. The US has a higer population to support it

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Beirdo:

GreyFoxx, last I looked they turned down a request to mandate it or something along those lines

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Beirdo:

not that it matters to me now :)

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

now I get the joy of FCC regulations instead

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RyeBrye:

xvmc_render.h:13:36: error: X11/extensions/XvMClib.h: No such file or directory

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RyeBrye:

Anyone hit that snag before?

[17:39:03]

praet:

is that file in the right place?

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Dagmar:

Not with the right symlinks

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Dagmar:

...and not unless you somehow killed /usr/X11R6/include from the include path

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RyeBrye:

Should I just make a symlink to my /usr/include/X11/extensions/XvMC.h to X11/extensions/XvMClib.h ?

[17:39:55]

RyeBrye:

I don't have an XvMClib.h file – just XvMC.h

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Dagmar:

RyeBrye: Probably not. That's a "normal" X11R6 header file

[17:40:22]

Dagmar:

Like, a normal install of X should have it, but you may need some package named xorg-devel or something

[17:40:41]

RyeBrye:

Ok. I'll try that

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Dagmar:

Or if you're using X 7.x, one of it's MANY teeny tiny little header packages

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praet:

RyeBrye: i can pastebin mine if you like to try?

[17:41:18]

RyeBrye:

praet – that might help, thanks

[17:41:39]

RyeBrye:

I have an Xvlib.h

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praet:

http://pastebin.ca/394922

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Dagmar:

I don't think pasting one in will help

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Dagmar:

If there's one header file missing, there will almost certainly be more

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praet:

save that as XvMClib.h

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Dagmar:

...and for pete's sake don't try to substitute a different file unless you want pain

[17:42:35]

praet:

i think the ffmpeg might carry it

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RyeBrye:

Ahh... yum whatprovides helped out

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RyeBrye:

libXvMC-devel seems to provide it

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praet:

nice

[17:42:58]

Dagmar:

praet: It's an X header file.

[17:43:12]

Dagmar:

Definitely not something you'd get from ffmpeg

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Beirdo:

one would hope

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praet:

libXvMC-devel is there already

[17:45:12]

RyeBrye:

Hm

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RyeBrye:

Wonder why it didn't install when I copied and pasted it...

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praet:

second line?

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** RyeBrye scratches head, shrugs shoulders, and decides he doesn't care **

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RyeBrye:

It didn't have the devel libraries for the firewire components, I added those today

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** RyeBrye is building his friend's mythbox over SSH for him. **

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** RyeBrye should charge for this ;) **

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clop:

hi, it seems like the top two or three lines on my screen are just static, even though below them the picture is perfectly clear... any idea what might be causing that?

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clop:

(it happens on recordings and live tv)

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RyeBrye:

clop – I have the same issue on the box I'm building now with a SD firewire input

[17:54:42]

RyeBrye:

I haven't bothered trying to fix it yet, because I'm working on resolving other higher priority problems I'm having

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clop:

heh, yeah, it's not a real problem

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RyeBrye:

I imagine you could set the video playback to shift up by a few pixels in the settings

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RyeBrye:

and effectively move the static off of the viewable area

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praet:

clop: it could be closed caption (teletext) data

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praet:

i had similar distortion/static but after setting a proper overscan it was out of the viewable range anyway

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clop:

ok, i think i've seen "overscan" settings in the mythtv-setup somewhere

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praet:

well you could use your video card

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praet:

but it would affect the whole screen

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clop:

it shows up even when i'm running in windowed mode

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clop:

on the top of a window

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clop:

i mean, inside the window, underneath the title bar, i'll see the lines

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clop:

so its probably something about how it records

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praet:

right. its coming in through the source

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praet:

do you have full screen output without any black areas around your tv display

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clop:

praet, sometimes; i have a widescreen tv, so if the show is broadcast in the right aspect ratio or whatever, it'll fill the whole tv perfectly

[18:00:14]

clop:

but other times it'll just use a little section of it

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clop:

and i'll have black bars on the sides

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praet:

how are you outputting to tv?

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RyeBrye:

hmm... /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXmu

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clop:

through my nvidia card's vga output

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clop:

but the lines show up when i run a little mythfrontend on my regular monitor too

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praet:

well overscan in nvidia-settings will only effect svideo/component out

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clop:

yeah i probably have to change something with the way it records

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** RyeBrye just realized he didn't paste the second line of his install command for the dependencies :) **

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clop:

i'm using an HDHomerun box so i'm not sure how to control its settings

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** RyeBrye smacks self **

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praet:

RyeBrye: heh

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praet:

i dont know enough about the hd box to play with capture settings

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clop:

praet, ok, i'll see if i can get anywhere with that :)

[18:07:52]

praet:

clop: i think its setup> general > appearance

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clop:

do you know why it takes forever to prescale images every time i run a frontend?

[18:09:14]

praet:

forever like 5–10 secs or 30 secs...

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Sembiance:

clop: The universe is against you.

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clop:

hehe

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clop:

like 30s probably

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praet:

prescaling is done when you switch a theme or res and takes a looong time.. then at every subsequent load it takes a bit to check the cache 5–10 secs

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clop:

hrmn, maybe it can't write to the cache or something

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praet:

but you could always set the output to the themes res (800x600 or whatever)

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praet:

so no scale needed

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clop:

praet, sweet, i set that overscan percentage to 1 and it took away the static lines

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praet:

cool

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praet:

i think theme cache is saved to a $HOME/.mythtv subdir

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praet:

so make sure $HOME is set and you have user permissions in subdirs

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clop:

aah

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clop:

i see

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clop:

so when i switch from the regular mythfrontend to the small one

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clop:

it blows away the old directory and has to rebuild it

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clop:

instead of just leaving both caches around

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clop:

(i use a little frontend to watch tv on the computer monitor, and a big one for the tv)

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praet:

oh hmmm not sure

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praet:

check ~/.mythtv/(themename)cache

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praet:

i mean themecache

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RyeBrye:

After compiling, mythbackend wont load because it can't find my libraries (i.e. when I ldd /usr/local/bin/mythbackend I get messages like libmythtv-0.20.so.0 => not found )

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RyeBrye:

do I need to add my /usr/local/lib to some kind of path?

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gardengnome:

add it to /etc/ld.so.conf

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gardengnome:

we haven't had that one in a while :)

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RyeBrye:

Gotcha :)

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clop:

i just let it build the cache, then changed the cache directory to read only

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clop:

so now it won't delete them

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praet:

clop: did that work?

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clop:

seems to have

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clop:

it tries to delete them but the filesystem won't let it

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praet:

does the prescaling prompt still come up?

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clop:

and it seems like it's not prescaling them anymore

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fryfrog:

sure, vnc

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praet:

edit the database?

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fryfrog:

or export X

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fryfrog:

yeah, or edit the db

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fryfrog:

I usually use x11vnc to do stuff like that

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praet:

last time i used vnc..

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fryfrog:

it'll latch on to an existing, running x11 session

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RyeBrye:

Hmm... I might set that up – I have this machine on his router's dmz

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fryfrog:

ssh port fowarding, ftw

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praet:

fryfrog: never used x11vnc.. sounds neat

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fryfrog:

router/dmz, it means nothing

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fryfrog:

praet: yeah, its very useful when you need it

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fryfrog:

was the only thing that bugged me about vnc on windows vs. linux

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fryfrog:

on windows, you get your desktop. on linux, you got a pristine, not your normal desktop

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fryfrog:

it was like RDP on windows

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praet:

right a second session

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praet:

i thought it was more powerful that wqay.. but you are right bout the differences

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fryfrog:

its perfectly fine if you just want to run some gui apps

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praet:

windows vnc could never pull that off

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fryfrog:

but when you want to actually modify your own desktop, its annoying to ya :)

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offset:

if you load the vnc module in your xorg.conf file you can connect to your existing session

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offset:

I did it a while ago so I don't remember the specifics, but it can be done without too much trouble

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fryfrog:

ah

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fryfrog:

well, x11vnc does it nicely too

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cheeseboy:

hi

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cheeseboy:

is it possible to setup my remote to adjust volume on tv and turn tv on and off?

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cheeseboy:

and if so how?

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fryfrog:

sure, get a universal remote

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fryfrog:

I have a Logitech Harmony Remote that does all that and more

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cheeseboy:

+i dont want to pay for universal remote because i have ir blaster

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fryfrog:

then i guess you could setup something in irexec to run something that sends the power on / off to the tv?

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fryfrog:

and volume

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fryfrog:

other than that, no

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cheeseboy:

how do i do that?

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fryfrog:

fark if i know

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cheeseboy:

?

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fryfrog:

??

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offset:

cheeseboy: iv'e done it with the MyBlaster ir blaster

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offset:

what kind of irblaster are you using?

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cheeseboy:

offset how do i check?

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cheeseboy:

its the one thatcme w/ my card

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RyeBrye:

what setting can I override to get mythtv-setup to not use opengl?

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RyeBrye:

(I'm trying to run it via vnc)

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juski:

it defaults to qt painter at first

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praet:

try mythtv-setup -O ThemePainter=qt

[19:01:40]

juski:

woo just killed over 260 crims in vigilante mode. I think I might be addicted to that

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RyeBrye:

praet -that worked, thanks

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juski:

FYI all, the --help option can be most illuminating

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praet:

jus, what game?

[19:02:14]

juski:

GTA vicecity

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RyeBrye:

juski --help only tells me that I can use -O

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praet:

ah

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gardengnome:

juski: road rage is fun

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juski:

level 30 or summink

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juski:

most I've ever done with only a car

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offset:

cheeseboy: do you have your irblaster/mythtv working?

[19:03:54]

juski:

hey ledshoppe.com are doing 100m bluetooth usb thingies for $6.99 shipped

[19:04:19]

juski:

oops sorry $4.99 shipped

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cheeseboy:

offset ive got mythtv and lirc working

[19:05:12]

juski:

gardengnome: I saw screenshots of plutohome today. I think they need to take a themer on

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gardengnome:

juski: go for it :P

[19:05:49]

cheeseboy:

plutohome?

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offset:

cheeseboy: if your ir blaster works through lirc i really can't help you. I've never delt with that kind of setup before.

[19:07:35]

cheeseboy:

http://www.snapstream.com/images/store/PVR-150_IR_Blaster.jpg

[19:07:41]

cheeseboy:

i have that thing

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juski:

plutohome is a home media/security/control hub type effort

[19:08:45]

juski:

its wiki is written up as linuxmce :-O

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gardengnome:

kinda like the UK government, just smaller

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offset:

cheeseboy: you basically just need some way of changing the remote_code that the blaster is using between your cable/sat box and your tv

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juski:

hey can we have a mythtv plugin for this? http://www.opendildonics.org/

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offset:

cheeseboy: i use 2 scripts, one for myth that controls my sat box, and one that is setup for my tv, then i call the tv script from irexec

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juski:

hahaha 'DIY hardware' on their wiki.. well it *would* be wouldn't it? :-P

[19:11:06]

gardengnome:

punny

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cheeseboy:

k..

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juski:

they should get a stand at a linux show

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juski:

kind of difficult to demo though

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** juski goes to wash his mind out with cold water **

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cheeseboy:

thereare linux shows?

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juski:

yup

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dustybin:

juski your a freak :p

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juski:

LinuxWorld is prolly the most well publicised

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juski:

LugRadioLive is another

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juski:

LinuxTag...

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juski:

how close they are to you depends on how near real civilisation you live

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cheeseboy:

can someone helpme setup remote to change volum on tv and turn tv off?

[19:19:07]

gardengnome:

cebit

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juski:

cheeseboy: you need to find out what IR code the TV uses

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Beirdo:

juski, they should also apologize for spamming every MythTV-related mailing list, blog, forums, etc with their ads when they started :)

[19:19:32]

cheeseboy:

thats tuff

[19:19:40]

cheeseboy:

insignia tv..

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cheeseboy:

not to common i think

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juski:

Beirdo: fair dues. They got the ball rolling on the telnet interface though IIRC

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Beirdo:

yeah, so I hear :)

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juski:

cheeseboy: it'd be easier to just forget it

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juski:

or get a universal remote

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juski:

seriously if you felt like killing your machine getting lirc worky on its own you'll not have a nice time gettin the blaster to work

[19:21:43]

dustybin:

i read in the mythtv manual that you can do away with lirc completely if u use a RF keyboard and a learning remote

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cheeseboy:

<sigh>

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Beirdo:

ummm, IR keyboard?

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Beirdo:

most remotes are IR

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juski:

the chip in the blaster only has so many codes programmed into it so it might not be able to do your tv anyway

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juski:

and besides finding out which code it is, then which command code does what... oof

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juski:

I'd think twice

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dustybin:

RF Keyboard and a RF learning remote

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juski:

there's a list of codes it supports somewhere – you could google it

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Beirdo:

hehe

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praet:

juski: a year ago i used a script that cycled through all the power codes and I wrote down when the power switched on/off

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Beirdo:

not many RF learning remotes to buy last I heard

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dustybin:

ok

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cheeseboy:

google wht?

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** Beirdo hands juski a trout **

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dustybin:

!trout cheeseboy

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** MythLogBot slaps cheeseboy with a trout on behalf of dustybin... **

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cheeseboy:

so what do i google for?

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dustybin:

what u trying to do?

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cheeseboy:

shut off my tv w/ ir blaster

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dustybin:

let me think

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dustybin:

jeeze i havent experimented with a i/r blaster yet

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onewheelskyward:

I have.

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onewheelskyward:

It's tough to find the documentation. I haven't been successful yet.

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dustybin:

there is a rough guide how to set it up in the mythtv manual

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onewheelskyward:

Yeah but it's lacking a lot of details. 95% of that document has to do with remotes.

[19:28:22]

praet:

http://www.htpcug.com/blaster.htm

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onewheelskyward:

Aah that one looks pretty good.

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cheeseboy:

how danyone got list of working tvs?

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GreyFoxx:

ummmm huh ?

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gardengnome:

my siemens fs 475 is working pretty well

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gardengnome:

it's like 20 years old, though

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praet:

he means working with builtin pvr-150 blaster

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praet:

but if you are looking to just turn power on off there may be a compatible match

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Sembiance:

Man, the HDHomerun boxes would be AMAZING if they could tune analog signals too

[19:36:16]

Sembiance:

they would just be all in one little boxes of coolness

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praet:

Sembiance: stop showing offf

[19:36:43]

Sembiance:

praet: Wtf are you even talking about?

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** praet 's jealous :) **

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praet:

havenet stepped into hd yet

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Sembiance:

praet: I didn't even say anything. How do you know I even own one?

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Gurft:

word up

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Sembiance:

praet: I didn't either, until I moved somewhere that there actually WAS HD :)

[19:38:00]

praet:

i asked you about your qam provider liek 2 hours ago :P

[19:38:05]

RyeBrye:

In the latest SVN head, it seems to redefine how it looks for firewire capture cards to use the GUID instead of the node # – but in mythtv-setup I can't select / enter a GUID for my capture card.

[19:38:09]

Sembiance:

Gurft: word up? Is that kind of like 'hey' or 'yo' or 'hiya' ?

[19:38:29]

Sembiance:

praet: ahh heh

[19:38:33]

Sembiance:

praet: do you use comcast too?

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Gurft:

Sembiance: Yessir it is.

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praet:

actually there is a monopoly in RI.. cox cable or go for satellite

[19:39:26]

Sembiance:

well, that's the way it is pretty much everywhere I ahve ever lived

[19:39:36]

Sembiance:

one cable provider

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praet:

also, hd requires an hd set top rental

[19:40:17]

Sembiance:

praet: you could always pull them out of the air

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praet:

yeah thats why i asked where you were getting hd from.. doea any standard uhf antenna get something to test?

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Sembiance:

praet: I tried 5 or 6 different antenna's. I found the simple basic sole dipole extender ones work best. Although I was just doing it indoor and wasn't concerned about direction

[19:42:03]

Sembiance:

praet: it depends on where you live I guess in relation to the signal

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Sembiance:

antennaweb has your details ;)

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praet:

yeah lots more research to do

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Sembiance:

yah it took a lot of research, a lot of trying different things, and even after I had all the parts it was still weeks before everything was running full automated by itself with no issues

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[shodan]:

are there any mythtv livecd project for the xbox (that are still in active developpement ?)

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praet:

[shodan]: im no to familiar on it, but the wiki has hits

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praet:

like http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Xbox_Install_using_E_Images

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praet:

"Theory is that you can ftp these files to the E: Drive on the xbox and just boot directly into a mythfrontend ready xebian environment."

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dustybin:

im sure debra wouldnt approve of her name being transformed with a x!

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[shodan]:

looks like this will do, "xebianmythtv"

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Beirdo:

I and the bot will be back in a while, I'm moving the linode from one datacenter to another

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praet:

[shodan]: the main xbox info is here btw: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Xbox_Frontend

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[shodan]:

thanks

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Beirdo:

goin down...

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