Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Sunday, February 25th, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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daMaestro:

achew22, :-P

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daMaestro:

achew22, only oc-128?

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fourcheeze:

daMaestro: I think if I needed that I would still use apt to install things

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achew22:

thats the fastest connection I know of... whats faster? Fiber into the backbone?

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daMaestro:

achew22, oc-255 backbone to infiniband

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achew22:

which one of those is faster?

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daMaestro:

fiber to the box; inifiniband 48X

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fourcheeze:

how fast is oc-128?

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achew22:

insane

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daMaestro:

http://www.bandwidthmarket.com/content/view/13/50/

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achew22:

fourcheeze, its like 6gbps

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daMaestro:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfiniBand :-))))))

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fourcheeze:

oc192 is only 10gbit

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fourcheeze:

you can get that fast on ethernet

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daMaestro:

i guess i missread quad-rate 12X

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daMaestro:

yea.. oc192 is not that fat (well to the inet it would be, assuming you have a 10Gbit+ pathway)

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fourcheeze:

mostly these things seem to depend where you are

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vegeat:

is there a way to ignore certain folders in mythvideo?

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fourcheeze:

for instance where I host they tend to all be in terms of ethernet ports

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daMaestro:

yeah.. hosts normally just stick to 100mbit ports

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daMaestro:

and then do traffic shaping at the router level

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daMaestro:

96 Gbit/s ... /me drools

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achew22:

yes, daMaestro thats the theoretical its probably closer to 40Gbit/s but stil thats damn fast

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daMaestro:

hmmm

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daMaestro:

so what do i need to do to get Nuvexport working

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chairman:

strange, I have changed some channels numbers on my system. so that I have 1, 2 3, 4 ,5 6 and so on. but when I press up it jumps over channel 4. but when I press the number 4 it tunes in on the channel nicely. If I press down when I'm on channel 4 I get channel 1825

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chairman:

hehe

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chairman:

strange

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daMaestro:

i'm so glad to see so much perl in use.. since working with fedora it has been all python

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daMaestro:

good to be back to something that loves perl :-)

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daMaestro:

she is sexy

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achew22:

daMaestro, perl is very nice. and Nuvexport is really easy I think you can almost make install it off the bat

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juski:

mornin'

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livingtm:

Anyone know how to get mythtv to halt the system on exit in Ubuntu? i put sudo halt in the config, but it doesnt work (its probably prompting for a password)

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daMaestro:

when there is only one show recorded

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juski:

this has been covered many many times before here

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daMaestro:

livingtm, adjust sudo access to not prompt for a password

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achew22:

daMaestro, how is mythtvplayer working for ya?

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juski:

what you need to do is edit /etc/sudoers to exclude the user you run mythfrontend as from needing a password to run the halt command

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daMaestro:

livingtm, :NOPASSWD or something like that.. there should be an example in your sudo config file

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livingtm:

daMaestro, Would you mind helping me through that? Im apparently not googling properly

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daMaestro:

achew22, have not loaded it up yet

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daMaestro:

livingtm, visudo

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daMaestro:

livingtm, make the needed changes

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livingtm:

daMaestro, yeah i tried something to that effect, its a no go

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achew22:

daMaestro, well good luck I'm going to a play in 10 min so if you have any questions now would be a good time otherwise good luck

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livingtm:

%mythtv ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/halt

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livingtm:

didnt work ^^

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daMaestro:

achew22, sweet.

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daMaestro:

achew22, thanks for your help

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achew22:

daMaestro, any time

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juski:

livingtm: tried logging out & back in?

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livingtm:

juski, i rebooted

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daMaestro:

achew22, once i get my feet wet, i am going to do a fedora based livecd for a myth frontent

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juski:

that was my next question :-P

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achew22:

daMaestro, that will be interesting will you shoot me an email when you do?

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daMaestro:

achew22, the single CD installer for a full myth system is already in the works

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daMaestro:

achew22, sure.. damaestro.us .... make sure i get your info

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juski:

soon to be my standard reply to questions, "have you tried rebooting?". I wanna work in IT support, see

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daMaestro:

achew22, the single cd installer is going to be hot.

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daMaestro:

achew22, using revisor/pungi.. the instal media is always updated :-)

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daMaestro:

achew22, so you don't need to be network connected for updates.

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achew22:

daMaestro, will it get info from the web or will it be a standalone?

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daMaestro:

standalone

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achew22:

what are those called... net install? somethign like that

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daMaestro:

netinstall is web-based installs

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daMaestro:

we call them re-spins

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daMaestro:

http://torrent.fedorauntiy.org

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daMaestro:

err..

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daMaestro:

http://torrent.fedoraunity.org

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daMaestro:

the last spin is old.. we expect to do one monday

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achew22:

Well I'm off to "The Little Shop of Horrors" wish me luck

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daMaestro:

nice

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daMaestro:

cya.

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livingtm:

juski, daMaestro no go.. tried it again.. it shuts down mythfrontend and sits there at the desktop

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juski:

livingtm: I'm not sure the halt command even works on ubunut

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livingtm:

sudo halt does, but it prompts

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livingtm:

for pword

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juski:

is the mythtv user in the sudo group?

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livingtm:

juski, uh, no probably not :-) lemme check

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livingtm:

thre is no sudo group

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daMaestro:

wheel

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daMaestro:

what does your sudo config line look like?

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juski:

there's something like one.. something like 'allow administrative tasks' in the user manager thingy

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daMaestro:

%mythtv ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/halt is a group i would expect

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daMaestro:

mythtv ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/halt might be what you are looking for

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daMaestro:

i'll go read the man page

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livingtm:

daMaestro, which man page? i tried the sudo man page and it gave command line arguments and such

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daMaestro:

livingtm, man sudoers

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livingtm:

sometimes man is so un-intuitive :-)

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livingtm:

and by man i mean man pages :-)

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daMaestro:

livingtm, you could have read the "see also" and figured it out

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livingtm:

probably

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daMaestro:

:-P

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daMaestro:

it is what i had to do

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livingtm:

oh wait... when you get to the "Are you sure you want to exit" page in Mythfrontend, shoudlnt there be a shutdown button/>

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juski:

not if the box is also a backend

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livingtm:

seems like ive seen the options "No" "Yes, exit now" and "Shutdown"

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livingtm:

oh ok...

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juski:

arghh stupid T4

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livingtm:

juski, this machine is a backend.. does that mean i cant shut it down? or that it just wont prompt to shutdown?

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juski:

yeah it means you can't shut it down from the GUI

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livingtm:

AHH shit thats my problem

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livingtm:

the sudo thing is working fine

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juski:

"do you want to shut down & possibly miss recordings?"

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livingtm:

yeah i know.. but what about "I want to shut it down to unplug it and move it"

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juski:

just shut it down manually

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livingtm:

juski, this box isnt going to a computer geek

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juski:

would you really want some dumbass family member powering off the machine from the GUI? I know I wouldn't

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juski:

if the power button is set to shut the machine down cleanly I cant see there being much of an issue

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livingtm:

juski, no but they should be able to turn it off

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livingtm:

okay.. is there a sleep mode that will let the backend do its thing?

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juski:

NVRAM wakeup you mean? yeah. read the docs

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juski:

you can get it to go to sleep after a period of inactivity & automagically wake up in time for recordings

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livingtm:

cooool

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livingtm:

okay

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juski:

not something I've ever played with since my frontend is diskless

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LLyric:

I really should look at disk frontend again sometime...

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LLyric:

And move my fileserver/mythbox out of the lounge :)

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juski:

the lounge is no place for big boxes with large HDDs

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livingtm:

juski, you network boot?

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juski:

yeah

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juski:

I use minimyth

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juski:

followed the guide at parker1.co.uk to make ubunut work with it

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daMaestro:

is there any way to do x11 forwarding with mythsetup and have it actually work?

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daMaestro:

[shodan], are you doing the ipod dealy?

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daMaestro:

[shodan], i also need to get that setup.. :-)

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[shodan]:

nope, I just want to automatically make avi files out of my nuv files

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daMaestro:

ahh

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daMaestro:

[shodan], so.. are you setting up a job to automagically transcode to something else?

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daMaestro:

[shodan], i think i am going to end up wanting to be able to share video via samba with windows clients

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[shodan]:

daMaestro, yes make my recordings (nuv and mpeg ts files) into mpeg4 avi files

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daMaestro:

[shodan], so, how are you doing that? did you setup a "custom job"

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daMaestro:

[shodan], because i'd like to do that.. and then also export for ipod..

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juski:

why you wanna use avi is beyond my comprehension – it's a shitty file container

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tlegistrae:

I just compile the svn source for mythtv, and did a make install, but when I try to run mthtv-setup, it fails. It cant connect to the database, the mythtvconver db doesnt exists, am I supposed to creat it, or did something go wrong durring the make install?

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[shodan]:

juski, nuv doesn't work right on xbmc

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juski:

tlegistrae: try reading the docs

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daMaestro:

tlegistrae, you need to create the db

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juski:

YES you're supposed to create the database yourself – the docs tell you how to do that, which you would know if you bothered to read them

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tlegistrae:

there is no need to get indignant juski, I spent tons of time reading the 40 different tutorials that are each incomplete is their own way

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juski:

[shodan]: and look here: http://syntax.homeip.net:8080/blog/2006/mythexport/

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juski:

tlegistrae: well, the *official* docs describe the step you've missed quite adequately

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[shodan]:

aahhh !!! the cli parameter is –infile !!!! yay !!

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[shodan]:

thanks juski !

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juski:

yet more useful info for mythtv users hidden away in a fucking BLOG :(

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juski:

I thought that's why the wiki existed. seems I was mistaken

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juski:

folks may aswell be keeping the information to themselves if they only put it on their own pages

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tlegistrae:

wow, your getting really excited

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[shodan]:

juski, no the wiki is for making 30 page long article full of trivia with no structure whatsoever ;)

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[shodan]:

i.e. http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Nuvexport

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juski:

hardly benefits the community if you hide it away. the wiki is for everybody to contribute to a *central* source of information

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juski:

[shodan]: anybody can get a wiki account & add / change information

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juski:

tlegistrae: I apologise for getting a bit short with you – you have to realise we see a lot of that kind of question here and it wears thin after about 10 minutes

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juski:

with regard to your comment about the 40 or so howto guides you might've been reading... that's part of the problem. there isn't yet a *definitive* source of information – too many Unclued Jimbob's Blog pages & the likes, mixing it up :(

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juski:

if folks really want to document the project, do it in the wiki :)

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juski:

though I admit it gets tricky when distro specifics get involved – but then the packagers have a role to play in the proceedings too

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tlegistrae:

I had previously grabbed myth with a package manager, but when I had severe issues with my legacy nvidia drives, and mythtv not finding the proper frequencys, I opted to reinstall on a diff hard drive. I have to compile from the svn source on the old setup because the digital port on my tuner card wasnt supported in .20 so I needed the latest sorce. And it would seem that the database was left over from the package manager creating it for

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tlegistrae:

Actually, if you have any insight it would be greatly appreshiated

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tlegistrae:

scantv found the frequencys

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tlegistrae:

but mythtv did not

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gardengnome:

2please configure mythaudio by running mythtvconfig. don't forget the firmware text file for the iwtw driver"

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tlegistrae:

can you think of any reason this might be?

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gardengnome:

scantv? analog tv?

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juski:

tlegistrae: you've not set up the card correctly in mythtv-setup perhaps?

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juski:

analogue scanning doesn't always work in mythtv, FYI

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tlegistrae:

I used the same setting that I use with scantv

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tlegistrae:

NTSC and us-cable

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gardengnome:

tlegistrae: are you in the US?

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tlegistrae:

but in the scanining utilited, it asks about the moudlation, which I am unsure of

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tlegistrae:

yes

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juski:

if you're in the US you should get a zap2it account

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gardengnome:

tlegistrae: try zap2it

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juski:

that, when properly configured will set up your channels for you

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dannymk:

Hi everyone

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dannymk:

finally after a couple days hard work got my myth system running

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dannymk:

Anyone here have a pvr-350?

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dannymk:

I am having trouble playing video out to my tv

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dannymk:

anyone?

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dannymk:

anyone here have a 350?

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juski:

wow. patient guy or what?

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tlegistrae:

I am having a problem connecting to the database

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tlegistrae:

I created it as specified in the manuel

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juski:

ubuntu?

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tlegistrae:

yes

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juski:

can you log into mysql from a terminal?

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tlegistrae:

yes

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tank-man:

did you install from source or package?

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juski:

do you have a mysql.txt file in ~/.mythtv/ ?

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tlegistrae:

source

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juski:

tank-man: he had packages installed then went with source

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tlegistrae:

well, I reinstalled ubuntu on a different harddrive since then

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tlegistrae:

this a fresh attempt

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juski:

ah

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juski:

different story then :)

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tlegistrae:

this isnt the same error I was getting before when mysql wasnt confgiured for the mythtv user

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tlegistrae:

then it said that USER with PASSWORD yes or no cant log in at localhost

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tlegistrae:

I think it logs in

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juski:

gardengnome: yous still looking for an ubunut bootsplash thing?

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tlegistrae:

may have found the problem

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tlegistrae:

DBType is QMYSQL3

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tlegistrae:

I grabbed the 5 package

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tlegistrae:

can I just change the 3 to 5?

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juski:

nah that'd still work

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tlegistrae:

oh

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tlegistrae:

well the user anem and password are right

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GreyFoxx:

No, just leave as QMYSQL3

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tlegistrae:

and I ran that script in the database folder

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tlegistrae:

so the database exists as far as phpmyadmin lets on

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juski:

does mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg

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juski:

work?

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tlegistrae:

yes

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tlegistrae:

I get an Error(KickDatabase) for every entry though

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juski:

could still be a privileges issue

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tlegistrae:

does it need table specific privalages?

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tlegistrae:

cause mythconverge privalagesfor mythtv at localhost is check all for general privalages, but nothing set for table priuvalages

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tlegistrae:

I first get 2 BadDevice errors

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tlegistrae:

then is says the prefix is set to usr/local/

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tlegistrae:

DPMS is active

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tlegistrae:

QMYSQL3 driver not loaded

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tlegistrae:

available drives list is blank

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tlegistrae:

New DB connection total, 1

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tlegistrae:

and unable to connnect to database!

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tlegistrae:

this seems like the loggical place to start looksing from problems

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tlegistrae:

after that, nothing seems to find the db

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daMaestro:

ok.. so there is nothing "out-of-box" for windows that will play recorded shows, unless i setup a job to re-encode things?

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GreyFoxx:

daMaestro: It depends on what your recording source is

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daMaestro:

i have setup samba to share the video..

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daMaestro:

GreyFoxx, sp

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GreyFoxx:

what kind of capture card ?

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daMaestro:

pv-150

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GreyFoxx:

then recordings are mpeg2 by default unless you are transcoding them

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daMaestro:

mwhhahhhaha

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tlegistrae:

also, there are no tables in the mythconver database

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Cyberai:

I'm running version .20 btw

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juski:

tlegistrae: the tables should get created when you run mythtv-setup

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tlegistrae:

the setup does go pass an error where it sets three fronts to 0 point

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tank-man:

mysql-qt problem?

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tlegistrae:

possibly, Im not sure that I have qt

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tlegistrae:

DAMN!

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tlegistrae:

those legacy nvidea drivers are acting up again

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tlegistrae:

they keep causing X to fail on reboot

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[shodan]:

this is a shot from the original stream

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[shodan]:

http://domn.net/img/nuvexportsample1.png

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[shodan]:

this is what I got after nuvexport

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tank-man:

[shodan], export to what format?

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[shodan]:

http://domn.net/img/nuvexportsample2.png

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[shodan]:

avi xvid

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tank-man:

should be good

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tank-man:

go colbert :)

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[shodan]:

he's even more square after nuvexport is done with it ;)

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[shodan]:

according to gspot, the output file is 334mb for 29:25 of video , there are 9% I frames 50% P frames and 41% B frames

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[shodan]:

the sound quality is good and the A/V sync is good but the image quality is just terrible

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[shodan]:

it looks like it's 250kbps !

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tank-man:

second pic looks ugly

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[shodan]:

yeah, it's the output of nuvexport

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tank-man:

use the --debug optin with nuvexport and look at what settings it is useing

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daMaestro:

is the recorded programs section of mythweb very slow for anyone else?

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[shodan]:

system call:

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[shodan]:

mkdir -m 0755 /tmp/fifodir_19849/

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[shodan]:

forking:

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[shodan]:

/usr/bin/nice -n19 /usr/bin/mythtranscode --showprogress -p autodetect -c 1205 -s 2007-02-14-00-35–00 -f "/tmp/fifodir_19849/" 2>&1

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[shodan]:

forking:

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opello:

rafb.net/paste :)

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[shodan]:

it was only 7 lines..

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[shodan]:

-s 640x480 ?!?!

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[shodan]:

the input is 704x480 and the output is 704x480 but at some point it's choking it down to 640x480 ?!

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daMaestro:

oh man.. running mythfrontend over x11 forwarding is sweet

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daMaestro:

i don't have to walk to the basement anymore

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daMaestro:

is there any way to autofill the channel names? rather then "adding channel X" (which is what i have)

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daMaestro:

or is that a manual thing?

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justdave:

daMaestro: are you using a datadirect service? (like zap2it)

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daMaestro:

justdave, yes

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justdave:

daMaestro: delete all your channels then run mythfilldatabase

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daMaestro:

>:) mwhahahaha

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daMaestro:

justdave, i should wait till what is recording is done, correct?

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justdave:

the "adding channel X" stuff happens when you do the manual channel scan

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justdave:

daMaestro: yeah, I'd wait till nobody's using it :)

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daMaestro:

yeah.. i did the manual channel scan to see if everything was working

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daMaestro:

justdave, cool

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Cyberai:

does anyone know anything about frequency tuning? I have a fuzzy channel that comes in fine if I hook up a regular TV. I found the frequency fine tuner in mythweb and put in a value of 100 (slightly worse) then 500 (worse), then 1000 (much worse). So it seems I need to go down, not up. But any negative number in the fine tuning slot gives me no reception at all.

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Cyberai:

CHannel 27 is the problem. DO I need to make it channel 26 and then fine-tune up?

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justdave:

but if I back out to the main menu and pick weather then it's got the old cached? data still

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Fenix-Dark:

someone think they could help me get my tv tuner card working so i can use mythtv?

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Fenix-Dark:

ati tv wonder pro

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t0ny-p40:

Yay! My mythtv's startup is 100% automated!

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t0ny-p40:

Any one ever use anything like a ups as a watchdog?

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t0ny-p40:

My crappy cap card is freezing up the system

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daMaestro:

does anyone recommend just flagging commercials.. or completely removing them?

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t0ny-p40:

just flagging

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t0ny-p40:

it can mess up some times

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t0ny-p40:

you can remove them later if you want to

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daMaestro:

so, is there a way to automagically skip commericals? and how can they be removed later?

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t0ny-p40:

yes

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daMaestro:

ok, so.. if i find the commercials to be flagged correctly.. how do i remove them?>

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t0ny-p40:

you can hit o while playing the video then hit z to load them into the cut list

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t0ny-p40:

then transcode the file

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daMaestro:

ok, so it has to be done from the mythfrontend?

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t0ny-p40:

to enable auto skip goto setup>tv settings>playback

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t0ny-p40:

yes

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daMaestro:

is there a way i can setup a userjob that would automagically remove the commercials, if i checked the job box?

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[shodan]:

daMaestro, it's an option when you schedule a recording

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daMaestro:

[shodan], it is an option to mark.. is there an option to remove?

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tlegistrae:

nvideexit

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[shodan]:

daMaestro, just schedule a lossless trancode, it'll execute the cutlist

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daMaestro:

nice. thanks.

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daMaestro:

hmm i have a job "encode for iPod" which is staying at status "Queued" ... but the backend is doing nothing

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daMaestro:

any idea what i should do? did wrong?

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[shodan]:

maybe mythtranscode isn't starting ?

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t0ny-p40:

daMaestro, are you checking it with system information?

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daMaestro:

t0ny-p40, just via the mythweb

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t0ny-p40:

are you refreshing it?

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daMaestro:

yeah

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daMaestro:

it is not running /usr/local/bin/myth2ipod -cut "%DIR%" "%FILE%"

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tank-man:

daMaestro, check if you let user jobs run 24/7 or certain hours of the day

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defaultro:

very quiet in here :P

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daMaestro:

tank-man, how?

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tank-man:

either mythtv-setup somewhere or mythfrontend somewhere

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daMaestro:

ok.. i am starting up the frontend now

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vegeat:

its such a waste to have a firewire stb

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vegeat:

that doesnt work

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vegeat:

what language is myth written in?

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opello:

c++ i believe

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vegeat:

yeah

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vegeat:

with some perl stuff

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opello:

if you knew ...?

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vegeat:

i just checked it right now

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opello:

ah :)

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vegeat:

i want to make some adjustments to mythvideo

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daMaestro:

tank-man, so i am looking to adjust the encoding profiles?

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daMaestro:

tank-man, and where to look for the job queue?

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daMaestro:

tank-man, i just looked through the setup stuff.. nothing popped out in the frontend for when to run user jobs

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skone:

any reason nothing is showing up in the upcoming recordings section in mythweb?

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daMaestro:

tank-man, found it.

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daMaestro:

skone, do you have anything schedualed?

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skone:

yeah

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skone:

if I do a man schedule to record now

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skone:

it doesnt record either

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daMaestro:

tank-man, i had not enabled user jobs to run

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ludmil:

hi guys. how do I set mythfrontend to run on my second x display. i do not use xinerama, i run a dual-head setup. --display :1 segfaults

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daum:

is there a way to import .avis int' mythtv using mythdvd?

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ludmil:

daum: why do you need to "import"?

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daum:

ludmil, well i just have like a few AVI's I want to play through mythtv so it goes onto my tv=)

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ludmil:

go to setup/videodaum: go to setup/media settings/video settings/general and set the direcotry in which myth looks for videos

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ludmil:

then just use media library/watch video

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daum:

thanks

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ludmil:

you can use as well setup/video manager, so you can add pictures, and movie data from imdb data to your videos

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daum:

ludmil, kk thanks

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ludmil:

np

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daMaestro:

what is the default for "directy that holds videos"

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daMaestro:

i think i remember it being something like /usr/share/XXXXXXXXXX

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daum:

yep

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daum:

like videos

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daum:

=xxxxx i think

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ludmil:

the default is /share/Movies/dvd

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ludmil:

at least for my intsall

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skone:

anyone know why I am unable to schedule any recordings?

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skone:

I can record live stuff, but cant schedule anything

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daum:

skone, your sql tables may be broken

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daum:

check to make sure none of them are broke and need a repair

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daum:

that is what happened to me once

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skone:

how can I check them?

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daum:

skone, well, mysqlcheck should do it

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skone:

just run that as root?

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daum:

mysqlcheck --databases mythconverg --auto-repair

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skone:

it said OK on everything

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daum:

hrm try to schedule soemthign now

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daum:

if not, login into mysql, then connect the the mythconverg database, then do REPAIR TABLE oldrecorded;

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daMaestro:

is there any way to have myth name recordings in some sane way.. ?

[05:57:58]

daum:

i think that is thet able name that i've had break the most hwen my comp crashes

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skone:

no go

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daum:

skone,even after running the repair command?

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tank-man:

daMaestro, look in the contrib dir

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skone:

I didnt do that

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daum:

try that

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tank-man:

there is a perl mythrename script

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skone:

can you give me more info on it

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daum:

google

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daMaestro:

tank-man, bravo..

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daMaestro:

tank-man, so where should that *really* be run from?

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daMaestro:

tank-man, should it be run as a userjob?

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tank-man:

i dont use it

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tank-man:

it probably can be run as a user job

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ludmil:

how do I set mythfrontend to run on my second x display. i do not use xinerama, i run a dual-head setup. --display :1 segfaults

[06:10:01]

daMaestro:

tank-man, hmm.. does it interfear with anything myth?

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daMaestro:

tank-man, does it matter the files get renamed?

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tank-man:

well, i thikn it also updates the names in the mysql db so it works as normal

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skone:

daum: you think it could be anything besides a corrupt sql table?

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daum:

skone, not sure thats the only time i've had the trouble before

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skone:

adding: mythtv as a slave backend server

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skone:

what does that mean in the backend log?

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skone:

I only have a single backend server

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skone:

shouldnt it be a master?

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tank-man:

yes

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skone:

where do you change that?

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tank-man:

i dont know

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skone:

im getting mythstring socket errors

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skone:

err mythsocket errors

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daum:

there isn't a way to tell mythvideo to play the videos through the same output as the rest? IE, i have my mythtv output to my tvcard then tv(have the 350)

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kormoc:

daum, install the generic pvr 350 x driver rather then using the myth specific one

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[shodan]:

xris, (if you're around) why doesn't nuvexport --mencoder use mythtranscode as a source ?

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ludmil:

how do I set mythfrontend to run on my second x display. i do not use xinerama, i run a dual-head setup. --display :1 segfaults. and DISPLAY=:1 mythfrontend says cannot connect to X server :1. but the display is there, i an see it on the tv

[07:22:28]

t0ny-p40:

Any one here know anything about building a ir receiver?

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t0ny-p40:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?p . . . tPage=family would that work and is it a good price?

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kormoc:

K|NgGh0sT, split the network up

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peppe123:

hello, what does the fifth and sixth column mean when running dvbscan?

[09:07:56]

peppe123:

initial transponder 130000000 6875000 0 4

[09:09:38]

peppe123:

Anybody want to help me solve my dvbscan problem?

[09:10:34]

peppe123:

I get several warnings when running dvbscan, all of the kind: WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0000

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cesman:

hello hello

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peppe123:

I have verified with windows that my HW is working properly for watching TV and I verified that HW should be supported on Linux/MythTV before buying it.

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peppe123:

hello cesman

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peppe123:

can anyone help me

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peppe123:

?

[09:17:08]

fourcheeze:

peppe123: what is your hardware?

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peppe123:

fourcheeze: technotrend c1500 budget pci ,CI, CAM, Conax

[09:20:18]

fourcheeze:

looks good

[09:20:44]

peppe123:

I know

[09:21:00]

peppe123:

just dont get why I cant find channels when scanning

[09:21:12]

peppe123:

been searching on google and everywhere....

[09:21:26]

peppe123:

followed the howto and so on

[09:21:34]

fourcheeze:

have you tried scanning inside mythtv ?

[09:22:06]

peppe123:

no, actually not because I stopped, because it said so in the howto

[09:22:17]

peppe123:

that I should fix this problem before going on

[09:22:22]

fourcheeze:

right

[09:22:36]

peppe123:

I should be able to see channels now

[09:22:42]

peppe123:

in dvbscan

[09:23:07]

fourcheeze:

peppe123: do you know which transmitter you have?

[09:23:12]

peppe123:

I got anothe error message like "tuning failed" before I adjusted the frequencies to fit my provider

[09:23:38]

fourcheeze:

if you create a channels.conf yourself does tzap work?

[09:24:05]

peppe123:

werent I supposed to create a channels.conf from the output of dvbscan?

[09:24:11]

fourcheeze:

yes you can

[09:24:20]

fourcheeze:

well

[09:24:27]

fourcheeze:

it depends how you want to do it

[09:24:36]

fourcheeze:

these days myth generates its own channels

[09:24:44]

peppe123:

i dont want anything else but get MythTV to work ;)

[09:24:49]

fourcheeze:

:-)

[09:24:55]

fourcheeze:

yeah

[09:25:09]

fourcheeze:

try scanning for channels in myth

[09:25:21]

peppe123:

but I suppose I have a problem because I dont see any channels....

[09:26:01]

fourcheeze:

peppe123: which distro?

[09:26:05]

peppe123:

ok, I will do that, probably will take sometime though, Im new to MythTV and seems to be a lot of menues and choices ;)

[09:26:11]

peppe123:

Fedora core 6

[09:26:47]

peppe123:

and I have everything working fine in windows xp

[09:26:54]

peppe123:

dual boot on my PC

[09:27:33]

peppe123:

Maybe I should tell that all channels are coded

[09:27:43]

fourcheeze:

did you put the firmware file in place?

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peppe123:

hmm, that could be it

[09:28:06]

fourcheeze:

yeah, if you didn't it will be

[09:28:11]

peppe123:

lol

[09:28:28]

peppe123:

is i this: dvb-ttpci-01.fw-2622

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fourcheeze:

could be

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fourcheeze:

I ran this script: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17/Documentation/dvb/get_dvb_firmware

[09:29:32]

peppe123:

This is the HowTo ive been trying to follow: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

[09:30:27]

fourcheeze:

doesn't seem to mention firmware

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peppe123:

hmm

[09:30:58]

fourcheeze:

I'm not sure where the firmware goes on ubuntu

[09:31:04]

fourcheeze:

I mean fedora

[09:31:08]

fourcheeze:

because I'm using ubuntu

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peppe123:

what is the firmware for?

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peppe123:

I mean what is it suppose to fix?

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fourcheeze:

it makes the device work :-)

[09:32:27]

fourcheeze:

I think it's essentially a driver

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peppe123:

but as I can see my HW works

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peppe123:

My current kernel: 2.6.19–1.2911.fc6

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fourcheeze:

if your device needs firmware uploading and you don't upload it it won't work

[09:33:37]

fourcheeze:

however much it seems to

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peppe123:

where does the firmware go? I mean is it "flashed" onto the card itself or only in Linux?

[09:34:30]

fourcheeze:

it gets uploaded to the card

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peppe123:

Im just worried if I screw up my working windows

[09:34:52]

fourcheeze:

I have this

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fourcheeze:

[17179625.148000] tda1004x: waiting for firmware upload (dvb-fe-tda10045.fw)...

[09:34:54]

fourcheeze:

[17179626.560000] tda1004x: firmware upload complete

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peppe123:

before I leave my windows setup I want to know everything works with MythTV

[09:35:21]

fourcheeze:

windows also uploads the same firmware

[09:35:34]

peppe123:

so its uploading during boot

[09:35:35]

peppe123:

?

[09:35:41]

peppe123:

not permanently

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fourcheeze:

normally when the driver is inserted

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peppe123:

ah,ok

[09:35:53]

fourcheeze:

but yes it has to be done on every boot

[09:36:02]

fourcheeze:

well, normally

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peppe123:

where did U find the frimware?

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fourcheeze:

get_dvb_firmware

[09:36:48]

fourcheeze:

that script is in the kernel source

[09:37:36]

fourcheeze:

probably you shold find someone using the same card

[09:37:43]

fourcheeze:

and see what firmware they are using

[09:39:25]

fourcheeze:

is this a cable card?

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peppe123:

where did U see this: [17179626.560000] tda1004x: firmware upload complete ??

[09:39:57]

peppe123:

yes its DVB-C

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ludmil:

while watching tv, pressing 'S' brings up the tv guide. when I scroll and find a channel which I want to watch, how do I play it? what is the key? enter brings the scheduling screen.

[09:41:09]

peppe123:

and is listed on http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-C_PCI_Cards

[09:41:31]

fourcheeze:

peppe123: I see that message after the module for the frontend is loaded

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peppe123:

Technotrend

[09:41:50]

peppe123:

C-1500

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peppe123:

DVB: registering frontend 0 (ST STV0297 DVB-C)...

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peppe123:

ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:0b.0[A] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19

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kormoc:

ludmil, space?

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ludmil:

kormoc: same – scheduling

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fourcheeze:

peppe123: I'm not sure how to read those messages – it's different for each card

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kormoc:

ludmil, you sure it's a show playing now and not in the future?

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peppe123:

fourcheeze: ok, damn

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ludmil:

kormoc: yeah

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kormoc:

donno then

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kormoc:

might want to check the keys.txt

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ludmil:

kormoc: thanks, i'll check

[09:49:29]

peppe123:

saa7146: register extension 'budget_ci dvb'.

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peppe123:

ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:09.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 17

[09:49:29]

peppe123:

saa7146: found saa7146 @ mem f8a0a800 (revision 1, irq 17) (0x13c2,0x1010).

[09:49:29]

peppe123:

saa7146 (0): dma buffer size 192512

[09:49:29]

peppe123:

DVB: registering new adapter (TT-Budget-C-CI PCI).

[09:49:30]

peppe123:

adapter has MAC addr = 00:d0:5c:04:75:b4

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peppe123:

input: Budget-CI dvb ir receiver saa7146 (0) as /class/input/input4

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peppe123:

budget_ci: CI interface initialised

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peppe123:

DVB: registering frontend 0 (ST STV0297 DVB-C)...

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peppe123:

ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:0b.0[A] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19

[09:49:42]

peppe123:

Installing spdif_bug patch: Audigy 2 [SB0240]

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peppe123:

dvb_ca adapter 0: DVB CAM detected and initialised successfully

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peppe123:

oops, sorry

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k-man_:

about once a month, i find mythtv-backend hangs and I have to manualy restart it, does anyone else have that problem?

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ludmil:

while watching tv, if i use channelup/down keys, how do i set it to change the channel to the newly selected without pressing the ok button? i found a setting only to do this if i enter the channel number, but now while browsing.

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peppe123:

cheeze: U here?

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peppe123:

fourcheeze

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fourcheeze:

hi

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peppe123:

fourcheeze: I got it working! ;)

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fourcheeze:

cool

[10:50:34]

fourcheeze:

how?

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peppe123:

fourcheeze: thanks for the idea!

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fourcheeze:

what was it?

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peppe123:

just searched in MythTV

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fourcheeze:

ahh

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peppe123:

?!?

[10:51:04]

fourcheeze:

nice

[10:51:06]

peppe123:

lol

[10:51:08]

peppe123:

strange

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fourcheeze:

yeah, that works for me

[10:51:20]

fourcheeze:

did you get all the channels?

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peppe123:

found a post somewhere that said that scandvb is not necessary anymore since some version of MythTV

[10:51:44]

peppe123:

yes, I got them all!

[10:52:11]

** juski rolls his eyes **

[10:52:52]

peppe123:

now I have another problem

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peppe123:

;)

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juski:

peppe123: so which howto was telling you to use scan & import a channels.conf file?

[10:53:28]

peppe123:

wilsonnet?

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juski:

surely not...

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juski:

course you could always have checked the *official* *wiki* for information. much as it seems to have gone out of fashion lately

[10:54:55]

peppe123:

or maybe not

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peppe123:

w8

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gardengnome:

juski: i dunno about the ubunut bootsplash. i think daviey was gonna do it.

[10:56:15]

peppe123:

I went from chapter 10 to another location

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juski:

we should have a campaign for every John Doe who's ever done a 'blog' or homepage howto to put it in the wiki instead

[10:57:03]

peppe123:

# DVB capture cards (Nova-T, Fusion DVB-T, other non-North American HDTV): then there is a link

[10:57:07]

juski:

gardengnome: ah well. I was bored, is all

[10:57:31]

peppe123:

thats were it said to run dvbscan

[10:57:35]

juski:

I'd also highly recommend people start using and updating the wiki !

[10:57:49]

juski:

ONE place for information

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gardengnome:

peppe123: that guide is two years old

[10:58:29]

juski:

the quest to get mythtv working shouldn't have to be several days of trawling the corners of the internet for titbits

[10:58:44]

fourcheeze:

peppe123: what's your other problem?

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gardengnome:

juski: i'd suggest that you write a nice, lenghty, IRC compatible explanation why the wiki should be used. then bind it to an alias.

[10:59:48]

peppe123:

fourcheeze: I have very "low volume" on my sound

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gardengnome:

juski: right next to "/say RTFM!!11" ;)

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gardengnome:

peppe123: that website is old. way too old. it stems from the first DVB implementation made by dopester.

[11:00:17]

juski:

peppe123: if it's digital, there's squat all you can do about it other than turn up your TV sound

[11:00:44]

fourcheeze:

peppe123: have you opened up the full mixer?

[11:01:20]

juski:

the ethics-gradient site was essential reading for mythtv 0.16 :)

[11:01:34]

fourcheeze:

:-)

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fourcheeze:

those were the days

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peppe123:

full mixer?

[11:02:02]

fourcheeze:

when you had to grind your own rivets to build myth

[11:02:12]

fourcheeze:

peppe123: something like alsamixer

[11:02:55]

fourcheeze:

because there are usually two and sometimes 3 things that need to be adjusted

[11:03:18]

fourcheeze:

peppe123: I take it you found the volume control on myth?

[11:03:31]

peppe123:

fourcheeze: No ;)

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fourcheeze:

[ and ]

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juski:

fourcheeze: it's still not come along much in terms of stability – I mean it was pretty much as stable as it is now.. only now we've got more features. and setup screens

[11:03:57]

juski:

oh and osd menu options :(

[11:03:59]

fourcheeze:

juski: which stability problems do you have?

[11:04:10]

juski:

did I say it's unstable?

[11:04:19]

juski:

;)

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hads:

So why would it come along then?

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fourcheeze:

not in as many words

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fourcheeze:

my only problem recently is backend dying

[11:05:17]

fourcheeze:

ok, so it's a big problem

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juski:

I don't think it's actually improved that much since 0.16 tbh – despite the 'new features'

[11:05:33]

fourcheeze:

and I've just added a second drive and converted to LVM

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fourcheeze:

with striping, which I hope will fix it

[11:05:57]

fourcheeze:

generally it dies if I'm recording one or two things and watching something else

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hads:

I quite like the 'new features'

[11:06:03]

fourcheeze:

I'm guessing the drives can't keep up

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fourcheeze:

but since last night – no dying

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juski:

I can record 3 shows & watch another while serving a show to a remote frontend – all from one PATA HDD

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fourcheeze:

hmm

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juski:

no icky glitches – just works (tm)

[11:07:51]

fourcheeze:

how fast is your drive?

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juski:

nothing special

[11:08:56]

fourcheeze:

well I can't work out why it would be crashing

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juski:

Timing buffered disk reads: 140 MB in 3.01 seconds = 46.58 MB/sec

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fourcheeze:

faster than mine

[11:10:00]

fourcheeze:

Timing buffered disk reads: 104 MB in 3.02 seconds = 34.42 MB/sec

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fourcheeze:

the other one is 23MB/sec

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fourcheeze:

with striping performance shold be much better I think

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juski:

Device Model: Maxtor 7H500R0

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fourcheeze:

juski: which filesystem?

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juski:

ext3

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fourcheeze:

Oooo

[11:12:09]

fourcheeze:

should be slow

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juski:

nope

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fourcheeze:

hmm

[11:12:27]

hads:

Yeah

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fourcheeze:

I'm using xfs

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juski:

deletes are pretty sluggish but I can live with that

[11:13:56]

fourcheeze:

anyone else using xfs and having problems?

[11:14:09]

gardengnome:

i've got major performance issues when live previews are enabled in the watch recordings screen. i suspect it's the silly pci latency timer :/

[11:14:27]

hads:

I'm not, but I'm sure there are a *lot* of people using XFS who aren't.

[11:15:08]

fourcheeze:

hads: which filesystem are you using

[11:15:17]

hads:

JFS

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hads:

on LVM

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cliche:

xfs on lvm here, no problems

[11:15:27]

fourcheeze:

I nearly went for jfs

[11:15:54]

fourcheeze:

xfs looks best to me on paper

[11:16:07]

fourcheeze:

for this application

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hads:

I wouldn't have thought that IO would be your problem.

[11:16:17]

fourcheeze:

but I am getting glitches

[11:16:51]

hads:

Haven't heard of IO making the backend crash

[11:18:26]

pat_:

I'm using xfs on lvm, and it hasn't given me any problems in the two or more years I've been using it

[11:18:37]

pat_:

I just made it with the default settings too

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fourcheeze:

ok, so what can make the backend crash?

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juski:

until I have a problem with ext3 I'll continue to use it – nothing at all wrong with it

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pat_:

coped with power outs gracefully on restart too

[11:19:06]

fourcheeze:

it only ever crashes while I'm watching something

[11:19:22]

fourcheeze:

and normally when I'm watching something and recording at the same time

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juski:

I've heard of issues with xfs when the filesystem is almost full

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pat_:

my filesystem lives at almost full

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juski:

people losing whole partitions because the hdd was just about full & the power went out

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pat_:

expires old recordings to tape new ones

[11:20:07]

pat_:

shrug, maybe I"m just lucky

[11:21:36]

hads:

Na, there's issues with everything it's just uncommon is all.

[11:22:23]

fourcheeze:

my problem is fairly regular – backend can die 2/3 times a night

[11:22:47]

fourcheeze:

however since I put it on lvm it's fine (althouhg I've only had it running a few hours :-) )

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blackest:

anyone here use kaffeine for broadcasting ?

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blackest:

It appears to me that when I try this my lan gets flooded

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juski:

no need for kaffeine here. I've got my mythtv :-P

[11:27:54]

fourcheeze:

does anyone know if there are plans to do streamed audio over mythtv?

[11:28:04]

fourcheeze:

it would seem to be a subset of the video problem

[11:28:20]

juski:

what?

[11:28:53]

fourcheeze:

have my music on my central myth server and stream it out to clients

[11:29:04]

fourcheeze:

mythmusic seems to want a local copy

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juski:

share it over nfs

[11:29:26]

fourcheeze:

well, what I do is share it over ssh

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juski:

IIRC, music is shared over upnp – or is going to be

[11:30:14]

anykey_:

Hm, does anyone know if I can re-import old recordings? (I have the files, but not the database entrys)

[11:30:33]

juski:

mythrebuilddatabase.pl

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anykey_:

juski: does that work for a *complete* new setup? (I lost the old one due a drive crash)

[11:31:30]

juski:

anykey_: no idea

[11:31:56]

juski:

anyway the wiki covers the subject. look in there

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anykey_:

juski: ok, going to have a look, thank you

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hardnova:

my data feed has channel data all in one datafile

[12:02:17]

hardnova:

so what i have to run it twice on the same data or is there some way around this ?

[12:02:44]

gardengnome:

i wish i knew.

[12:02:57]

gardengnome:

it looks like have you to run it twice, AFAIK.

[12:03:06]

gardengnome:

make sure to use --update so it doesn't add new channelös

[12:04:00]

hardnova:

anyone know of a repository of channel icons ?

[12:05:27]

gardengnome:

lyngsat? ;)

[12:05:30]

fourcheeze:

has anyone come across a dvd that libdvdcss2 won't grab the keys for

[12:05:42]

fourcheeze:

trying to rip a region 2 star wars III

[12:05:43]

gardengnome:

hardnova: talk to xris, he's done some iconmap stuff

[12:06:00]

gardengnome:

fourcheeze: ssshhh, the MPAA is watching

[12:06:07]

fourcheeze:

do I care?

[12:06:29]

gardengnome:

hardnova: dunno if that helps: http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/12868

[12:06:37]

gardengnome:

hardnova: where are you located?

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hardnova:

Australia MElbourne

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LLyric:

hardnova: which source are you using? Mine seemed to arrive ok

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fourcheeze:

oddly the bonus disk works

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hardnova:

source ?

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LLyric:

Where are you getting your xmltv info from?

[12:09:35]

hardnova:

tvguide.org.au

[12:10:17]

hardnova:

LLyric what are you using ?

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juski:

hmmm XBMC has audio compression in its UI now

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juski:

and it doesn't work with mythtv's upnp :(

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adante:

LLyric, hardnova, incase you guys are interested, a pretty good script is being developed by some guys on ocau

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** LLyric nods. Maybe I'll look if there are problems with the other one **

[12:24:00]

adante:

well fair enough. i've personally found their guide data substantially better than tvguide's

[12:26:12]

LLyric:

ocau = overclockers? what's overclocking got to do with pc pvrs?

[12:27:30]

gardengnome:

mien is underlocked. thaT's about the same just backwards

[12:27:31]

gardengnome:

;)

[12:28:23]

adante:

who knows, grotesquely incomprehensible as the idea may seem, i guess it provides a natural place for pc enthusiasts to gather and converse on other common technology interests

[12:29:52]

** juski has all his tv tuners overclocked, for more 31337!!!! FTW!!!!!!! O/ **

[12:31:29]

juski:

of course they wouldn't work as good without all the neons in the case. man that box is ripped

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pat_:

shrug, I just use icetv.com.au for my guide data, and pay for good data

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juski:

how much does that cost then? still cheaper than buying a tv mag every week?

[12:48:59]

pat_:

dunno, easier than typing it in

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gardengnome:

certainly cheaper than buying it and typing it into mysql ;)

[12:49:41]

pat_:

$11/month

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pat_:

(3 monthly, AU dollars)

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pat_:

that's what I do

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pat_:

now I see that 12 month is only $99, I think I'll change to that

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gardengnome:

that's approximately

[12:51:03]

gardengnome:

6.61695 EUR. not excactly cheap

[12:51:22]

pat_:

shrug, all the shows I want are on free to air, and I need good guide data

[12:51:37]

juski:

when is Aus going to get decent EIT data?

[12:51:46]

pat_:

mythtv isn't much use without guide data

[12:51:57]

pat_:

it only has a few hours on it from my understanding

[12:52:08]

juski:

ours in the UK has shortcomings but it's mostly very good

[12:52:23]

pat_:

juski: when AU channels broadcast shows to the schedule they publish?

[12:53:07]

pat_:

yeah, we are

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pat_:

so I live with it the way it is

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pat_:

(him or packer, we're boned either way)

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juski:

his $ky empire is wanting to charge too much for some good channels so we're losing them from our cable at the end of the month

[12:54:29]

pat_:

cable is for rich people in .au

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juski:

I've decided he can burn in hell – there are after all other methods to get his shows

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pat_:

either those or the people that watch way too much tv

[12:56:23]

juski:

we're thinking seriously about dropping to a lower package

[12:56:29]

juski:

there's f. all on anyway

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pat_:

foxtel is the only show in town I think (although I'm not sure) My sister has it and it comes with a box similar to mythtv however that machine deletes shows automatically after two days or something

[12:59:41]

pat_:

apparently it wouldn't cost much more than icetv for foxtel (packages start at $37/month)

[12:59:55]

pat_:

shrug, don't care enough

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pat_:

anyway, the wife has started watching mythtv in the bedroom. I think I'll take some drinks in and watch with her (and turn on the aircon)

[13:03:13]

pat_:

goodnight

[13:04:06]

pat_:

thanks for pointing out minimyth

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pat_:

it is the ducks nuts

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Xteven:

gug, is there a way to use mplayer as the media player in mythtv ?

[13:08:38]

Xteven:

I'm not sure what's used now, but I can't work with it

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gardengnome:

Xteven: for recordings and livetv? no.

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gardengnome:

you could put your recordings directory into mythvideo if you wanted too

[13:16:43]

fryfrog:

anyone know of any good old/new tv shows that i might be missing?

[13:16:57]

fryfrog:

heroes, jericho, lost, 24, bsg are all my favorites :)

[13:18:05]

juski:

lost? nobody can ever miss lost if they've ever seen an episode. jesus. that show STINKS

[13:18:23]

fryfrog:

i thought the first season was great

[13:18:33]

fryfrog:

but i haven't even watched the premier this season :(

[13:19:07]

fryfrog:

guess i sohould see whats new on adult swim :)

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fryfrog:

I think Heroes is my fav now

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juski:

started watching that yesterday. up to episode 4 now

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fryfrog:

in HD?

[13:23:35]

juski:

roflmao

[13:23:43]

juski:

in the UK?!

[13:23:50]

juski:

on my epia m10000 ?

[13:23:53]

fryfrog:

well, i spose you could have torrented it :(

[13:23:55]

fryfrog:

oh

[13:23:56]

fryfrog:

hehe

[13:24:03]

fryfrog:

i guess even then you'd be screwed :)

[13:24:13]

fryfrog:

well, its a good show no matter what. just prettier in HD :)

[13:24:37]

juski:

quite funny in places aswell

[13:24:42]

fryfrog:

yeah

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juski:

very quirky – I'm amazed it's been such a hit in the US

[13:24:56]

fryfrog:

you've met hiro nakamura right?

[13:25:02]

fryfrog:

spelled differently, maybe

[13:25:29]

juski:

he's def. my fave character so far

[13:25:41]

fryfrog:

he is a special effects dude at one of the big houses

[13:25:46]

juski:

yeah I know

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fryfrog:

ah

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fryfrog:

yeah, he is my fav by far :)

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fryfrog:

have you gotten to "save the cheerleader, save the world"?

[13:26:24]

fryfrog:

i think that was pretty early

[13:27:03]

juski:

the last one we watched saw the cheerleader on the morgue slab waking up

[13:27:31]

fryfrog:

ahhhhhhh

[13:27:49]

juski:

the episode of Lost I watched might aswell have been Pokemon ffs

[13:27:49]

fryfrog:

met the cop dude yet?

[13:27:54]

juski:

aye

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fryfrog:

i think he is my 2nd fav

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fryfrog:

you *have* to watch Lost from start to finish

[13:28:13]

fryfrog:

i mean, from ep1 on

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juski:

sod that

[13:28:25]

fryfrog:

jumping into the middle would be retarded

[13:28:30]

fryfrog:

well, you gotta watch heroes the same way :p

[13:28:39]

juski:

I never got into twin peaks either. that was a pile of shite

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fryfrog:

and 24, though i think you can get away with only starting at the start of a season

[13:28:49]

fryfrog:

twin peaks?

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fryfrog:

didn't that have david duchovney in it?

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juski:

among others

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juski:

David Lynch thing

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fryfrog:

i don't even know what kind of show it was

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fryfrog:

soap?

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juski:

utter, hyped shite

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juski:

I've heard of people switching TV companies just to watch lost

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fryfrog:

thats a little much :p

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juski:

anyway I like that I don't get it

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fryfrog:

and why would you need to?

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fryfrog:

i mean, isn't NBC an everywhere channel?

[13:30:29]

juski:

nope

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fryfrog:

unless you are not in teh US

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fryfrog:

but really, who's not? :)

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juski:

channel 4 in the UK used to carry it then it went to a subs-only network

[13:30:57]

juski:

I'm not, and I'm proud of it

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fryfrog:

thats only cause you are safe, down there in the UK with no oil supply :p

[13:31:41]

juski:

I've heard the kind of plotlines involved & I just think "WHY?!". I mean 24 is silly & fairly fatuous but come on there's a limit

[13:32:04]

juski:

anyway – chores to do.. it's Sunday :(

[13:32:07]

juski:

afk

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fryfrog:

good luck :)

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juski:

then more Heroes! :)

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hardnova:

for ir blasting ( sending ir codes out the serial port do i need to add something the lircd.conf ?

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maniacxs:

Hi, I am trying to get music with upnp from mythbackend. When playing the playlist, or the adress in the playlist with mplayer it says http://HOSTNAME:6544/getMusic?Id=38 404: Not Found. Has someone seen something like this? Playing from mythweb does not work, too.

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adante:

[juski] when is Aus going to get decent EIT data? <-- haha, good one!

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hardnova:

i just built a irblaster connected to the serial port only i cant get irsend to connect

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hardnova:

anyone awake

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fryfrog:

not me :)

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fryfrog:

well, my setup seems to be *much* happier with just one master backend

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anykey_:

Has anyone encountered the issue that all recordings are *way* too long? Well, they are not really, but mythtv thinks they are..

[15:16:18]

GreyFoxx:

I have been my recordseek table has been mangled by something

[15:16:34]

anykey_:

Mythtv *does* work with mysql-5, does it?

[15:16:38]

GreyFoxx:

yes

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anykey_:

hm ok

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GreyFoxx:

You can rebuild the seek table for each recording

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anykey_:

how?

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williammanda:

question on....computer setup for myth.....

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GreyFoxx:

If it affects all of the entries it could just be a corrupt table

[15:17:46]

williammanda:

i set my computer hard drive according to the ubuntu setup...

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GreyFoxx:

anykey_: I would login to mysql and run repair recordedseek;

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anykey_:

GreyFoxx: I did this already..

[15:18:26]

GreyFoxx:

then, of the problem stil exists (which is likely does)

[15:18:49]

GreyFoxx:

then run mythcommflag --rebuild --all

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williammanda:

10G for root, 3G for swap, the rest for mythtv under var

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GreyFoxx:

Or yuou can do mythcommflag --rebuild -f filename if you only want to do a specific show

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anykey_:

GreyFoxx: what has commflagging to do with the length of a recording?

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williammanda:

i'm running into a space issue

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GreyFoxx:

anykey_: mythcomflag also rebuilds the keyframe seektable

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anykey_:

GreyFoxx: ah ok

[15:23:57]

anykey_:

GreyFoxx: thanks, that fixed it

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clever_:

im moving my /var/lib/mythtv to a 20gig partition

[15:42:15]

clever_:

what do i have to do other then chown+mv+change in mythtv-setup?

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fourcheeze:

clever_: to its own partition?

[15:43:24]

clever_:

mostly

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clever_:

using lvm

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fourcheeze:

is that where your recordings are?

[15:43:39]

clever_:

thats where they are right now

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fourcheeze:

if you just want to move your recordings the easiest thing is to mount a partition somewhere and then tell mythtv where they are

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clever_:

its currently just lvm with 1 partition underneath it but that way i can add more drives later

[15:44:13]

digitom:

Hi. Having troube with Mythtv and the Direct-Rendering-Infrastructre. Mythtv works very fine, without the drm kernel module. But with drm module loaded, Mythtv works only after the secound try. What's wrong?

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clever_:

fourcheeze: id like it to also put new recordings in the new drive

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fourcheeze:

yes, that's all configurable

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** clever_ looks:) **

[15:45:04]

fourcheeze:

for instance my recordings are in /home/rec/tv

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fourcheeze:

which currently has is an lvm partition with 297G allocated

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clever_:

have you used lvm?

[15:46:04]

clever_:

ahh nice:)

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fourcheeze:

and striped :-)

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clever_:

so far ive done pvcreate vgcreate and lvcreate

[15:46:28]

clever_:

only pv atm is /dev/hdb1

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clever_:

and the lv is mounted to /media/mainlv

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clever_:

but i have 3 other harddrives in ntfs format which id like to add to the lvm

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fourcheeze:

ok, in that case you should just copy your files to there then set that as your tv recording directory in myth

[15:47:24]

fourcheeze:

well if you want to stripe them it's best to do it in one go

[15:47:29]

clever_:

need to empty the ntfs drives then pvcreate and add

[15:47:35]

clever_:

but i dont have them free right now

[15:47:47]

clever_:

only 1 pv is usable right now

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fourcheeze:

they're ntfs – what could they have on them that's useful ? ;-)

[15:48:13]

clever_:

tons of avi files i want to keep

[15:48:27]

clever_:

my main file server was XP

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clever_:

sticking a bad ram chip in it for 30 seconds managed to make xp unbootable somehow

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fourcheeze:

nasty :/

[15:49:27]

clever_:

yeah

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clever_:

the drive mythtv is on reads at about 4mb/s

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clever_:

the old drive which im going to later add to the myth box is 40mb/sec read

[15:49:52]

clever_:

50mb/sec write

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fourcheeze:

that's better

[15:50:01]

clever_:

yeah

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clever_:

and i think there identical in size

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fourcheeze:

how does that work?

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fourcheeze:

surely it's just slower to write on the slower disk

[15:51:58]

clever_:

but if your striped you may wind up writing between there 2 speeds

[15:52:08]

clever_:

wont get a full 50mb/sec out of the striped layout

[15:52:16]

clever_:

since half that has to go at 4mb/sec

[15:52:57]

clever_:

also i seem to be able to use storage groups to im going to see if i can use both /var/lib/mythtv and /media/mainlv/mythtv at once

[15:53:56]

clever_:

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on

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clever_:

ops

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clever_:

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on

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clever_:

dangit:P

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clever_:

mirc doesnt like the fact the lines start with a /

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fourcheeze:

yeah

[15:54:39]

clever_:

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on

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clever_:

/dev/mapper/mainvg-mainlv

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clever_:

/dev/hdb3 52G 47G 2.8G 95% /

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clever_:

there

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clever_:

ive got both /var/lib/mythtv and /media/mainlv/mythtv in the default storage group

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fourcheeze:

so are all your drive 20G?

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clever_:

thats a 20gig partition

[15:55:28]

clever_:

hdb is 80gig

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clever_:

it had a 20gig ntfs leftover from before i got the linux in

[15:55:57]

clever_:

just last night i made a matching 20gig partition on another box and ran this

[15:56:27]

clever_:

copyed the whole 20gig ntfs directly over

[15:56:39]

clever_:

using a livecd at one end

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hardnova:

irblasting anyone ?

[15:58:15]

clever_:

it seems to be able to use both partitions at once:D

[15:58:21]

clever_:

i got an ir blaster

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hardnova:

i just built a serial port one , tested it but cant connect to it

[15:59:10]

clever_:

i also made a serial one

[15:59:14]

clever_:

and had trouble at first

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clever_:

forgot to ./configure with --enable-transmit

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hardnova:

i have a working imon remove ( reciever 0

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clever_:

and even then it didnt work:P

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hardnova:

<clever_ i have precompiled binary from atrpms

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clever_:

i tryed getting it precompiled and my binary distro threw source tars at me:P

[16:00:31]

hardnova:

so what made it work ?

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clever_:

$ ./configure --with-transmitter --with-driver=serial --with-port=0x3f8 --with-irq=4

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hardnova:

i have a normal led attached atm to test

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clever_:

i had to manualy point out the serial ports io port and irq

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hardnova:

hmmm maybe compile is the only way

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clever_:

setserial /dev/ttyS1

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clever_:

/dev/ttyS1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3

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clever_:

that program will let you view the port/irq

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hardnova:

arr ok

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clever_:

also to compile the kernel module which is need youll need kernel headers

[16:02:20]

clever_:

took me months just to get it to even compile:P

[16:02:30]

clever_:

then a week before my dad would buy the parts

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hardnova:

i have specified the serial params in the config file /etc/sysconfig/lircd

[16:02:35]

clever_:

then 2 weeks to build it:P

[16:02:46]

clever_:

and when i finaly got the hardware made

[16:02:52]

clever_:

ubuntu upgraded the kernel on me

[16:02:56]

clever_:

making the module unusable:P

[16:03:10]

hardnova:

lol thats a sad story

[16:03:14]

clever_:

need to get arround to recompiling the module for my current kernel

[16:03:22]

clever_:

i rebooted to a older kernel to get it working

[16:03:43]

clever_:

also its nowhere near loading on bootup yet but i dont plan to reboot too much

[16:04:18]

hardnova:

is there some part of lirc that may limit the remotes it can read or is it just hardware limitations

[16:04:45]

clever_:

2 limits i know of

[16:04:55]

clever_:

the remote signal is on a certain freq

[16:05:07]

hardnova:

i have the reciever working but only gets codes from the remotes that came with it

[16:05:13]

clever_:

if your receiver ic doesnt match the freq of the remote it will shorten the range a good deal

[16:05:30]

hardnova:

arr ok interesting

[16:05:38]

clever_:

try using it at 1inches:P

[16:05:50]

hardnova:

is the serial port reciever a better way to caapture codes ?

[16:06:01]

clever_:

dont know

[16:06:06]

clever_:

havent made any receiver yet

[16:06:20]

clever_:

i downloaded the code from the lirc site and got lucky with my cable box

[16:06:37]

hardnova:

yea i might hook up the reciever part too and go just with the serial see how that goes

[16:06:42]

clever_:

so i cant turn the mythtv TV itself on to use it

[16:06:46]

clever_:

without the original remote

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hardnova:

have you looked here http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/

[16:07:57]

clever_:

yep thats what i used to get the cablebox codes

[16:08:00]

clever_:

jvc tv

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clever_:

says right on the remote rm-c1251g

[16:08:24]

clever_:

no such file under jvc

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lightspeedbiker:

greetings

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daum:

how do i redirect the output of mythdvd to output via my tvcard(pvr-350)?

[17:01:30]

juski:

use the Internal player

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daum:

juski, how do i set up that?

[17:01:45]

juski:

oh ffs

[17:02:18]

daum:

juski, well mythdvd uses mplayer it looke dlike

[17:02:44]

juski:

utils/settings > setup > media settings > dvd

[17:02:48]

juski:

playback

[17:03:01]

juski:

change the 'play' command to Internal

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daum:

juski, it is

[17:03:23]

juski:

it's not mplayer then

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juski:

it's the Internal player

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[17:03:46]

juski:

if your mythtv recordings play on the pvr350 output then so should dvds

[17:04:04]

juski:

same player, see

[17:04:48]

daum:

yea i understand that, was the video settings, switched it to internal

[17:04:59]

daum:

but for some reason now its not forwarding the sound of a .vob

[17:05:29]

juski:

welcome to the list of disadvantages of owing a pvr350 :)

[17:05:38]

daum:

heh

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juski:

*owning

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juski:

then take the pvr350 audio output & route it through theline input of your soundcard, then plug the soundcard output into your tv

[17:06:31]

juski:

I don't even have a pve350 yet I know this. I wonder how....

[17:07:06]

qfour20:

Hello, all. I seem to have some issues with playing back SD recordings that were pulled via firewire from my cable box. From what I can tell, the files are "ac3" at 32khz. When it plays back through mythfrontend, it sounds like the chipmunks.

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qfour20:

I'm sending audio out through an envy24 card's SPDIF output using alsa. I have tried to manually set a resampling rate in my .asoundrc, which still didn't help, although it's highly likely that I didn't do it right.

[17:08:39]

WeezeyF:

When I run mythfrontend from /home/mythtv/.kde/Autostart/myth-load.sh (FC myth howto) it spawns two more mythfrontends which have -session and a bunch of characters on them when I look at ps ax | grep mythfrontend

[17:08:54]

qfour20:

does anybody have a good resource that can help me configure alsa correctly? When i launch the files from command line (mplayer) they play correctly, but using mythfrontend all I get is chipmunks.

[17:08:56]

WeezeyF:

how do I make those stop showing up?

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juski:

I dunno but I can make these questions stop showing up :)

[17:09:25]

WeezeyF:

juski: /mute ?

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Widget:

hey

[17:22:44]

zormoc:

Weezey, you sure they're processes rather then threads?

[17:22:51]

zormoc:

WeezeyF, you sure they're processes rather then threads?

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WeezeyF:

zormoc: well, I have to switch to each of them to close each

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zormoc:

ooh, that's sucky

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[17:24:43]

WeezeyF:

yeah, it only happens on startup. I'm not sure what's up with that.

[17:24:51]

WeezeyF:

it's the same startup script as the other boxes.

[17:26:57]

Widget:

I was wondering, is there an actual app for viewing the mythtv logs in its database?

[17:27:19]

qfour20:

my .asoundrc and /etc/asound.state: http://pastebin.ca/371798

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qfour20:

anyone have an idea why audio is not being resampled to 48khz?

[17:28:42]

Widget:

qfour20: have you tested it with other sound apps?

[17:28:55]

qfour20:

yes, all other sound apps i've used work just fine

[17:29:11]

qfour20:

xmms, mythmusic, even the exact same recording files played back with mplayer work just fine

[17:29:21]

qfour20:

it's just all chipmunks in mythfrontend

[17:29:36]

qfour20:

although mythfrontend is configured differently than the command line options I use with mplayer

[17:30:01]

qfour20:

I execute this and it works for a recording: mplayer -ao alsa:device=spdif 1037_20070222120000.mpg

[17:30:33]

qfour20:

mythfrontend is configured to use ALSA:plughw:0,1 (won't work with ALSA:device=spdif or ALSA:default)

[17:30:40]

Widget:

qfour20: you've played with mythfrontend -v <something audioish>?

[17:30:49]

qfour20:

have not yet....

[17:31:02]

qfour20:

let me take a peek. mythbox is in the other room. one moment

[17:34:32]

rsdvd:

Good Evening folks – does anyone know what the .mkv file extension is?

[17:34:45]

juski:

matroska

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|Torg|:

http://www.google.com/search?q=mkv+extension& . . . -US:official

[17:35:21]

juski:

did everybody get labotomised in their sleep or something?

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rsdvd:

Hi juski : is it just a container format

[17:35:36]

juski:

both a container & a codec

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adante:

and a fish paste

[17:35:51]

hardnova:

damit just built the ir reciever serial port bit but that is not working have transmiter working now but no reciever

[17:35:54]

qfour20:

Widget, what is the syntax for using -v ?

[17:36:08]

adante:

-v help

[17:36:13]

Widget:

qfour20: -v help gives you a list

[17:36:21]

juski:

mmm fish pastebin

[17:36:28]

Widget:

qfour20: PS if this doesn't help I'm out of ideas, soz

[17:36:53]

Widget:

am I right in thinking that there isn't a dedicated log viewer for mythtv?

[17:37:44]

|Torg|:

view

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juski:

aha! now i remember where I read the thing about looping pvr350 audio into your soundcard.

[17:38:52]

juski:

it was in some *documentation*

[17:39:19]

qfour20:

well... i get lots of error messages about video divergence from audio and frames being dropped.

[17:39:34]

qfour20:

looks like i'm definitely having problems of audio being played back faster than it should be

[17:41:15]

juski:

I should have given up irc for lent

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hardnova:

is there a program that gives tells me where the signals are at ?/

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hardnova:

on the serial port

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|Torg|:

tip?

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|Torg|:

minicom will too, what signal do you want to see?

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Widget:

I just ask about the log viewer, as I've written a Qt prog here that can read mythtv logs across the network, which seems to work quite well

[17:53:20]

Widget:

didn't know if it would be something worth releasing

[17:53:49]

|Torg|:

log files are text files

[17:54:05]

Widget:

|Torg|: i meant the mythconverg.mythlog table

[17:54:07]

|Torg|:

they can be read with many tools, and are in fact part of the posix requirements

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kormoc:

Widget, mythweb shows those

[17:54:25]

Widget:

kormoc: I know

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Widget:

kormoc: this is more lightweight than apache

[17:56:17]

|Torg|:

what uses mythlog?

[17:56:52]

Widget:

not much

[17:56:56]

WeezeyF:

anyone running SVN? Is there a skipping problem or is only when displaying via the pvr-350

[17:57:14]

Widget:

|Torg|: or do you mean what writes to it? the transcoding daemon does

[17:57:22]

|Torg|:

Weezey be a bit more specific ther are three branches of svn code, and what subverison

[17:57:42]

|Torg|:

yes Widget I never see anything in mine, so I wonderd what part of myth uses it

[17:57:58]

|Torg|:

if the transcoding daemon does, it would make sence, as I dont use it

[17:58:24]

|Torg|:

my mythlog table is empty as afaik always has been

[17:58:37]

Widget:

|Torg|: expirations are put in there and scheduler information, but it was the transcoding I was interested in

[17:59:15]

|Torg|:

istersting becase mine never has anything in it

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WeezeyF:

|Torg|: trunk

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|Torg|:

thanks Weezey I wasnt asking for myslef tho, more like to get you more specifc help

[18:01:13]

WeezeyF:

heh, thanks anyway

[18:01:17]

|Torg|:

I dont have SD cards, and dont use a pvr-350 so I cant really help you

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Widget:

mm, dinner time

[18:03:38]

|Torg|:

yes it is lunchtime, the wife is pestering me to go out to eat

[18:03:50]

|Torg|:

oh well and exuse to pick up another coupple harddrives :)

[18:06:14]

maniacxs:

hi, i tried to use the music play feature of mythweb, but i am not able to play the songs. kaffeine says it is a unsupported codec and mplayer does not fill its cache. one other mythtv user gets directly mp3 files in the playlist i do not get these. Any ideas how to get it working?

[18:16:02]

hardnova:

anyone with knowlage on ir blaster / serial lirc

[18:16:27]

|Torg|:

most of us I would guess

[18:19:36]

|Torg|:

did you use irrecord to record any inputs?

[18:20:00]

livingtm:

How do I set up an S-video input? Seems like the backend setup wants me to connect it ot a Source and have default channels and everything for it

[18:20:05]

hardnova:

doesent irw display all codes it gets ?

[18:20:25]

|Torg|:

irw shows what /dev/lircd sees

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|Torg|:

it will ignore anything not defined in the conf file

[18:20:56]

|Torg|:

so no conf, no /dev/lircd, no irw

[18:21:16]

hardnova:

Torg well thats odd because on my last setup irw would see any codes from my remotes and thats how i defined them,

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|Torg|:

you would be surpised at how my ir "noise" your reciver gets

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|Torg|:

you made an lircd.conf file and irw would spit out things like "up"

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|Torg|:

thats its normal behvior becae you had a defenition for "up" in the lircd.conf

[18:22:28]

hardnova:

no it would say 00000010002901 unknown

[18:22:57]

|Torg|:

*IF* it has a predata set for it

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hardnova:

Torg no it had no data

[18:23:35]

|Torg|:

then it may simply be the differnce in version of lircd

[18:23:49]

hardnova:

Torg anyways i have noticed that its not working that way now so maybe yes a differnt version

[18:23:56]

|Torg|:

if I point one of my many other remotes at it, that are not defined, irw does nothing at all

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|Torg|:

do you have support for the device you use?

[18:24:27]

hardnova:

Torg so i have remotes defined that worked before when i was using the imon reciever

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hardnova:

Torg im now using a serial one i built a few mins ago

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hardnova:

so is there some way to monitor irrecord ?

[18:25:52]

|Torg|:

monitor in what way, that it gets a signal?

[18:26:03]

|Torg|:

its what irrecord does, you put in a labl and press a key

[18:26:04]

hardnova:

yes

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|Torg|:

what it captures, it writes to the output

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hardnova:

is the output always a file ?

[18:27:51]

|Torg|:

tell it to output to – if you want to see

[18:28:38]

livingtm:

Im confused with the backend setup.. I want to connect a VCR, or a camera to a composite in on my tuner card... how do i set that up?

[18:28:51]

livingtm:

there arent any channels associated with it

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|Torg|:

what capture card do you have? and how do you connect it?

[18:29:19]

livingtm:

i have a pvr500

[18:30:05]

livingtm:

i have cable tv connected to it, but i also want to use the composite and SVideo ins

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hardnova:

Torg irrecord isnt working it just says no data for 10 seconds aborting

[18:31:06]

livingtm:

I dont want to add a "Video Source" for the composite in do I?

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livingtm:

If I dont connect the input to a Video Source, I cant seem to change to it in the front end. But if I DO add a video source, it bitches about not having channels associated with it

[18:33:02]

|Torg|:

well myth was made to tune to channels and record tv

[18:33:11]

|Torg|:

it want menat to be a video passthough

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livingtm:

are you saying my composite and svideo are useless?

[18:34:02]

livingtm:

What if i want to record old home videos off of a VHS?

[18:36:20]

ffish:

ok, I changed the hostname of my sole mythbox (combined frontend/backend) and everything is falling apart around me

[18:37:17]

ffish:

I've even tried going back and starting from scratch, but it can't even probe for video cards anymore in mythtv-setup

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bjweeks:

should a xpress 200 be able to handel hdtv?

[18:40:00]

ffish:

does anyone have experience changing the hostname on a myth box?

[18:43:48]

ffish:

anyone?

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ffish:

does anyone know why it can't scan for capture cards anymore

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ffish:

so no one here has any clue?

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hardnova:

is there an option for lirc_serial active high/low

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hardnova:

do i need to set a sample rate ?

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hardnova:

hello ?>

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hardnova:

i managed to record a remote in raw format will that still work the same ?

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hardnova:

its strange but the remote codes that worked with the remote imon dont read the same via the serial port

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fryfrog:

PVR500 would have dual tuner/dual svideo

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fryfrog:

no idea on dvb-t though

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anykey_:

I think there's a hauppauge card that has dual dvb-t

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anykey_:

daviey: you could go for two WinTV HVR-1300, no idea on driver support though..

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daviey:

nova-t 500 is dual dvb

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daviey:

anykey_, thats a momma aint it

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anykey_:

daviey: a momma?

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fryfrog:

big??

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fryfrog:

also, be sure you check on linux support :)

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daviey:

http://www.hauppauge.fr/images/hvr1300_board.jpg

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anykey_:

daviey: well, the pvr-500 are *way* longer...

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hardnova:

i have a hvr1100 limited support but it is getting better

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daviey:

hvr-1300 isn't 'Dual Tuner Compatible'. What does that mean?

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fryfrog:

but i could be wrong

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doc|work:

hmm, I don't know much about those. How would that work?

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psofa:

i also think pal/ntsc are hardcoded in each model

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doc|work:

that's a pain. I got this really cheap. Same to have to sell it when I move back :/

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psofa:

doc|work, in other words you can only use an external tuner and feed the signal through svideo

[20:37:21]

doc|work:

would that work?

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psofa:

yes but you would have to change channels manualy though the cable box (there is some way to control the box via firewire or sth but im not at all familiar with it)

[20:39:00]

psofa:

plus i suspect there will be some quality loss

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doc|work:

this card came with a ir blaster (which I assume is transmitter) which is supposed to do that

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doc|work:

why would there be quality loss?

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doc|work:

(havign said that, I'm currently getting terrible quality. I think I need to get a cable booster)

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psofa:

because svideo is a lossy link?

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doc|work:

ah, ok

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anykey_:

psofa: is it so bad?

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psofa:

<psofa> plus i !suspect! .....

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psofa:

i dont know

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psofa:

for sure

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fryfrog:

actually, you could get *better* quality over the svideo

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fryfrog:

in my area, the "cable boxes" are all digital

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fryfrog:

so the "analog" channels are ugly, but the cable box uses the digital versions of the same channels

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doc|work:

I couldn't get much worse quality :)

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fryfrog:

so output is awesome

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anykey_:

they're here too, but the funny thing is that they only have analogue outputs ;D

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doc|work:

hah

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psyco-obiwan:

good evening fellow myth enthusiasts ;-)

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cesman:

hello

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psyco-obiwan:

does anybody know if it works at all or even have practical experience with mythtv on ppc64 linux ?

[20:57:05]

psyco-obiwan:

i have a macg5 dual for spare... ;-)

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justdave:

Is there a way to move an existing recording into a different recording group?

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cesman:

psyco-obiwan: you should be able to compile the frontend

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justdave:

Changing it from the context menu in the manage recordings section appears to only affect additional recordings of the same program

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justdave:

I want to change the one that's already recorded

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psyco-obiwan:

cesman: i have the frontend running on osx, im more after a backend/frontend

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psyco-obiwan:

the power the box has makes it very interesting as backend..

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anykey_:

psyco-obiwan: why? most tv tuners will not work on os x?

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cesman:

psyco-obiwan: AFAIK frontend only

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psyco-obiwan:

ok...thx, i was fearing there is no driver support und ppc

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anykey_:

psyco-obiwan: If you want to use the power, you can run mythcommflag etc on it, I think

[21:00:57]

justdave:

I think it can be the master if you want it to, but you'd have to run tuners on another box and slave them.

[21:01:06]

psyco-obiwan:

anykey_: thx, i would be happy if i could use nuvexport on it

[21:01:39]

psyco-obiwan:

justdave: ohhh...that would be fun enough... do you have any linkx except thesniderpad.com ?

[21:02:38]

hardnova:

im just testing and it seems that i need to irsend the number a couple of times for the device to reconise the code ?

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justdave:

I haven't looked to hard into slaving additional servers yet myself, I just know it can be done

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psyco-obiwan:

btw: cesman, i meanwhile run ~10 diskless frontends and one knoppmyth based master backend...works beautiful with the latest release...

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cesman:

:D

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justdave:

hmmm...

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justdave:

I have a show that keeps pausing itself during playback

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justdave:

pausing it on purpose then hitting play again will get it going for 20 or 30 seconds, then it pauses again

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justdave:

any ideas?

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[shodan]:

can mythfrontend in "watching recordings" read h.264 in avi ?

[21:12:51]

cesman:

mythvideo

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cesman:

and a player compiled w/ h.264 support

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gardengnome:

[shodan]: h.264 is supported, but i'm not sure if it'll work within an .avi container. i don't see why not, though

[21:14:10]

[shodan]:

cesman, no I want to know if the internal tv playback engine does it, not some external application I already know it does mpeg4 avi ...

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[shodan]:

gardengnome, k

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gardengnome:

[shodan]: you can try it by using "mythtv /your/file.avi".

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[shodan]:

k

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[shodan]:

hmm what's the fourcc for h.264 files ?

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justdave:

hmm, this thing freezes at the same spot every time if I start over. Is it possible there's something wrong with the encoding on that recording?

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justdave:

hmm, okay, changed my decoder from "Standard XvMC" to "libmpeg2" and it stopped freezing up

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justdave:

the on-screen help is truncated where it explains Standard XvMC, what's that do?

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gardengnome:

justdave: check the wiki

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justdave:

ah, hardware decoding.

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justdave:

so the decoder on my video card is shot?

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cesman:

what video card do you have?

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cesman:

and does it support the use of XvMC>

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daviey:

Am i right in saying there is no way, other than S-Video to get Sky(UK) into myth?

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justdave:

"nVidia Corporation GeForce 6200 (rev a1)"

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justdave:

I see notes about driver versions on there, how do I tell what version I have?

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justdave:

modinfo only seems to tell me the kernel version it was compiled for

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kormoc:

cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version

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justdave:

NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 1.0–9746 Fri Dec 15 09:54:45 PST 2006

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justdave:

which is newer than when the XvMC problems were fixed according to the wiki

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kormoc:

XvMC is very dependant on the motherboard in my experiences

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justdave:

PIC bus says "VIA Technologies" all over it.

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** cesman ponders what processor justdave has.... **

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kormoc:

that tends to be a bad sign in my opinion

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justdave:

I remember seeing a VIA XvMC option in addition to Standard XvMC

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cesman:

justdave: if you processor is powerful enough to decode what ever it is you are trying to decode, my recommendation would be to forego XvMC

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justdave:

yeah, it's still pausing on me periodically with this recording using libmpeg2, but it's way less frequent

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justdave:

Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz

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justdave:

it's keeping up, (except when it pauses), load avg 0.45

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cesman:

what are you playing back?

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justdave:

21% CPU utilization

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cesman:

SD?

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cesman:

HD?

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justdave:

yeah, SD

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justdave:

VHF band cable TV recording

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cesman:

you should not use XvMC

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cesman:

have you checked the logs to see what it is outputting doing the pausing??

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justdave:

backend log hasn't mentioned anything

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justdave:

suppose I need to run mythfrontend from a shell so I can see the output

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cesman:

or have it write to a log file

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justdave:

pah, ok, I need to redirect it to a log and tail the log. :)

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justdave:

if I pause the output, the video pauses waiting for me to unpause it :)

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hjohnson:

heh, this little pharos GPS I bought is cool

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justdave:

hmm, ok, it paused again... log has this:

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justdave:

2007-02–25 17:01:48.410 AFD Error: Unknown decoding error

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justdave:

2007-02–25 17:01:48.418 GetNextFreeFrame() is getting a busy frame A. LLLLl(ul)LLLLLLLLLLLUllLL

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justdave:

spits out a couple timecodes after that, then starts looping on "Waiting for prebuffer"

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fryfrog:

network issues?

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fryfrog:

or is the be/fe local?

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justdave:

it's all local

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fryfrog:

humm, thats weird :(

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hjohnson:

ok, rebooting into 2.10.0.1

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fryfrog:

2.10.0.1 of... what?

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daviey:

Anybody here looked into CAM emulation using sky?

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GreyFoxx:

We don't discuss that particular topic in here :)

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justdave:

hmm, it just core dumped. that wasn't nice.

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justdave:

guess I switch it back to libmpeg2 (I had it on "standard" which I guess is ffmpeg)

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juski:

daviey: thought you'd have had more sense than to bring that up man

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daviey:

whys that?

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kormoc:

daviey, it's a forbidden topic in here

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daviey:

i didn't know that

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kormoc:

should read the channel wiki...

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daviey:

Not talking about illegal use; just using what you have paid for

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kormoc:

doesn't matter

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kormoc:

http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Softcam

[23:06:41]

daviey:

i don't use sky, but somebody asked me to look into getting myth + sky hooked togther and digital->analog->analog->digital seems so stupid

[23:07:37]

daviey:

okay, i'll consider myself warned

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livingtm:

I just attempted to record video from a tape through the composite in on my tuner card, and it tried to follow the schedule for a non existant channel, and didnt get the entire video. is there a way to just hit record to start, and stop to stop?

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livingtm:

Ideally I'd like to get old VHS home movies into the video library

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hardnova:

hey

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hardnova:

hello

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juski:

hardnova: nope. the only way to do what you want is to schedule a manual recording between 2 times, then trim the resultant file in mythtv's editor

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juski:

mythtv == pvr != VCR

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hjohnson:

grumbe

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hardnova:

juski what are you talking about ?

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juski:

oops that was livingtm that was meant for

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hardnova:

juski i only asked about multiple instances of lirc for differrent devices nothing about recording

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[shodan]:

any idea why I'm getting this error

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[shodan]:

I ran mythtranscode --showprogress -p autodetect -i "2007-02–14, 22h00 – Attack of the Show, (1515).nuv" -f /tmp/mythtrancode_0000/

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[shodan]:

but mencoder fails with "Cannot seek backward in linear streams!"

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livingtm:

juski, i want to use it as a media library, not just a PVR. cant i just free record? what if I want a SEGMENT of the news, not the whole program?

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livingtm:

record, stop. cake.

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livingtm:

why does it need to be by a schedule?

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juski:

livingtm: because mythtv is not a VCR damnit

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juski:

argue the toss with the developers

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juski:

if you think it sucks – fine – go use something else

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livingtm:

Damn juski, im not saying it sucks.. christ stop being so defensive

[23:59:00]

juski:

putting vhs onto dvd is such a lame ass idea anyway

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livingtm:

im just saying the functionality to record OFF a schedule would be handy as hell

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juski:

for some maybe yeah

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livingtm:

juski its only lame if you dont consider 20 years of home movies to be worth it

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juski:

it pretty much goes like this – you want it – you code it

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livingtm:

at least your not a prick about it

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