Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Friday, February 2nd, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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AngryElf_:

what might cause irrecord to repeatedly display "something went wrong" ?

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williammanda:

can I get someone to help me load dvb app?

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Bakefy:

onewheelskyward are you still here?

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onewheelskyward:

yeah

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Bakefy:

when i click on mythtv it does not let me configure it completly because it cant connect to the mysql

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Bakefy:

i logged in as mythtv and it let me use it... but it didnt work.

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Bakefy:

any suggestions?

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Bakefy:

onewheelskyward, do i need to type, mythtv-setup while I am logged in as the user mythtv?

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onewheelskyward:

Ok. What happens when you run mysql -u root?

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Bakefy:

it says some things like "welcome to the MySQL Monitor..

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Bakefy:

onewheelskyward, does that mean MySQL is running okay?

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onewheelskyward:

It should be.

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onewheelskyward:

You can try typing 'show databases' and it should display some stuff.

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onewheelskyward:

But you need to set up your root password/

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Bakefy:

i did set a password

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onewheelskyward:

aah great.

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onewheelskyward:

So just punch that data into mythtv-setup and it should be able to connect to your db.

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CaptainSeabag:

hi everyone.. wow hi all 189 of ya!

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onewheelskyward:

There's only about 3 of us that aren't lurking. :)

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CaptainSeabag:

hehe cool, hi onewheel

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daviey:

sorry

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Bakefy:

onewheelskyward, I don't understand why mythtv needs its own user

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Bakefy:

why does it appear to get further when I log in as mythtv

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daviey:

what user should it run as?

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onewheelskyward:

It actually doesn't. It's just a good practice to run daemons as a non-root users when they don't have to be priveleged.

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Bakefy:

when i type "show databases" in MySQL is doesnt show any database

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Bakefy:

current database... is blank

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onewheelskyward:

That's weird. You should always see the 'mysql' database.

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onewheelskyward:

Did you run the mysql_install_db command?

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Bakefy:

no

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Bakefy:

i did this "sudo apt-get install mysql-server"

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onewheelskyward:

Some distros require you to run it and some do it as part of the install.

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onewheelskyward:

So, logged into mysql as root you get nothing from 'show databases'?

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Bakefy:

that is correct

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onewheelskyward:

Something is screwy. If you 'create database mythconverg;' what happens?

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onewheelskyward:

oh wait

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Bakefy:

okay

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onewheelskyward:

were you hitting a semicolon after show databases;?

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Bakefy:

no

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onewheelskyward:

Try that.

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Bakefy:

okay

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Bakefy:

I have a few databases

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Bakefy:

mythconverg is one of them

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Bakefy:

What does that mean?

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xris:

Bakefy: that it's already created

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xris:

Bakefy: type: GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'mythtv';

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xris:

then you just type use mythtv for both login and password in mythtv-setup

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Bakefy:

while in mysql?

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xris:

yes

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xris:

you can pick a different password if you want (the second "mythtv" in the grant statement)

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Bakefy:

case sensitive?

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xris:

yes

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xris:

most people just use the defaults, but it's always nice to be a little more secure.

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Bakefy:

whats that one website so I can paste my terminal print out/

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kslater:

pastebin.ca

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** kslater marvels that he knew an answer **

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CaptainSeabag:

ok who wants to tackle a tiny remote issue?

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Bakefy:

xris http://pastebin.ca/336409

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Bakefy:

that is my error

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xris:

Bakefy: read your error carefully

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Bakefy:

okay

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xris:

oh, wait, it's not informative enough.

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xris:

anyway, you have a missing apostrophe.

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xris:

after localhost

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Bakefy:

oh

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Bakefy:

okay, it didnt do anything this time... is that good?

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xris:

should have sayd "X rows affected" or something like that.

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xris:

but yeah, it should be fine.

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xris:

now run: FLUSH PRIVILEGES;

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xris:

(oh, and btw, the queries themselves aren't case sensitive, just the password, etc. most db people like to separate the case of things to differentiate between commands and data)

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Bakefy:

this is the most i have ever down in mysql

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Bakefy:

done

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Bakefy:

flush privileges didnt do anything either

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CaptainSeabag:

tee hee

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CaptainSeabag:

has anybody here successfully conquered an MCE2 remote?

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hads:

CaptainSeabag: Yes

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Bakefy:

does mythtv record and take out the commercials?

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hads:

Works well

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CaptainSeabag:

orly hads?

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hads:

Bakefy: It can if you auto-transcode, mine just flags the commercials

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Bakefy:

this website has to be wrong

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Bakefy:

http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php

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Bakefy:

I followed it perfectly.

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hads:

It's on the Internet – it must be right.

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Bakefy:

yeah

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Bakefy:

you're probably right

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Bakefy:

it works when I log in at mythtv

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Bakefy:

but not on my normal user account

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Bakefy:

well.. it gets furthur

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fatrhino:

anybody have any idea why mythbackend would be running at 97–99% cpu when its not recording, playing or flagging?

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briand:

fatrhino: what version of MythTV are you running?

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CaptainSeabag:

maybe it decided to dress up as Windows for halloween? ;)

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briand:

fatrhino: edit the script that starts mythbackend and add the "--noupnp" flag to the line that calls mythbackend, and see if that fixes your problem.

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fatrhino:

mythbackend --version Library API version: 0.20.20060828–3

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briand:

was there a "Source code version:" line on that output?

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briand:

:)

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fatrhino:

Source code version: Unknown

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briand:

did u compile from source, or what?

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fatrhino:

no, i got myth from yum

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briand:

yum, per se, doesn't have myth — you got it from a repository somewhere. :)

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briand:

try the flag, above, and see if your problem goes away.

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fatrhino:

o right, i used the repositories from wilsonet

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fatrhino:

i will try that in a bit, its about to start recording a show

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briand:

jarod doesn't have repositories, but I think he normally links to ATrpms (Axel Thimm's repository)

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briand:

it shouldn't take all that long — edit the file. then type "service mythbackend stop" and "service mythbackend start". should take less than 5 seconds to stop/start it

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briand:

and, depending on your typing skills (speed, accuracy, etc), not much more than that to make the edit. :)

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briand:

hint: (it's in /etc/init.d/mythbackend)

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briand:

look for "start()" and add the "--noupnp" to the line below that that starts with 'daemon'

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fatrhino:

ya i just edited it

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briand:

okay, then `service mythbackend stop` and `service mythbackend start`

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briand:

and you should be okay. :)

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fatrhino:

weird thing is it usually will run good for awhile after restarting, but then after some amount of time it just jumps up, with no entries in any of the logs

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** briand nods. **

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fatrhino:

so i'll just keep an eye on it and hopefully that'll do it

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briand:

actually, there are some entries... but nevertheless, it's probably the problem you were experiencing.

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Bakefy:

when my mythtv says cannot connect to mythtv backend what does that mean?

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fatrhino:

Bakefy: backend and frontend on the same machine?

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Bakefy:

yes

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briand:

change the ip address back to 127.0.0.1 ;)

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Bakefy:

okay..

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Sembiance:

darn it. after transcoding an HDHomeRun 1080p HD recording using mythtranscode to 720p MPEG4, when playing those files with mplayer the audio becomes out of sync very quickly

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Sembiance:

going to try playing with the built in mythfrontend player to see how that goes

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Sembiance:

maybe I should also try transcoding to something other than MPEG4

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briand:

yeah. maybe MPEG2 :)

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Bakefy:

briand... what is the default password. it made it something...

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Bakefy:

I changed it to what I thought I made it,.. but it doesnt work now

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hads:

It's random aparently

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Bakefy:

shit.

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Sembiance:

briand: You can only transcode into MPEG4 or RTJPEG or something

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xris:

Sembiance: yeah. mplayer doesn't play nice with nupplevideo containers. you can transcode mpeg2 files in "lossless" mode to remove commercials, though

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CaptainSeabag:

speaking of which... has anyone gotten an internet tv stream working properly?

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CaptainSeabag:

im not gonna get too involved tonightg, just wondering.

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xris:

I don't think there are any mythtv plugins that do that

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CaptainSeabag:

yeah, mythstream

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xris:

not a mythtv plugin. that's a third party app

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CaptainSeabag:

i've got it installed, it's just that ffmpeg only plays the audio for it, and a blank square appears in the menu where video ought to be

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CaptainSeabag:

ohh

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xris:

not sure why it's not official, but I'm sure isaac has his reasons

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CaptainSeabag:

i'll keep fighting with it... i emailed its creator a few times

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CaptainSeabag:

so Isaac is the father of mythtv eh

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xris:

says so on mythtv.org. :)

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** xris hopes, anyway **

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CaptainSeabag:

sweetness... serves me right, speed reading only gets you bits and pieces :D

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CaptainSeabag:

alrighty thanks guys... take care

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_mike3:

hey guys... I've started mythbackend and it says it's started but when I list with netstat -an the ports. None of the ports are up and listening.

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_mike3:

Any ideas??

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xris:

_mike3: run mythbackend by hand and watch the output?

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_mike3:

xris: I'm on a gentoo box.. so I start it by /etc/init.d/mythbackend

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_mike3:

any idea?

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_mike3:

i see

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_mike3:

i did a mythtv and it says it can't connect to the database

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xris:

_mike3: you can also just run mythbackend by hand... by typing: mythbackend

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xris:

or: mythbackend -v all

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_mike3:

giving me an access denied when trying connect to database

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_mike3:

where do I specifiy the username and password for mythbackend for the database?

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xris:

updatedb && locate mysql.txt

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Bakefy:

I don't think my password is correct.

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Bakefy:

how can i change my password?

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_mike3:

ok I got it working

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_mike3:

Still having a problem. My remote works but when pushing channel up it just shows the last 20 seconds I can go through of the recording

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_mike3:

how can I fix that?

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spiderworm:

hey all, playing a DVD i just got from netflix isnt working in myth, and testing the DVD with xine reports a "Suspected RCE Region Protection!!!" error... but mplayer plays it just fine

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spiderworm:

does anyone know what this could be?

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Sembiance:

Is there a key to adjust audio/video sync while watching a video?

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Sembiance:

The transcoded video is off by just a tiny amount

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Sembiance:

enough that it's very un-cool watching ;)

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_mike3:

hey how the hell do you get to the guide??

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onewheelskyward:

s

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onewheelskyward:

[S]chedule

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_mike3:

and why is it that all my channels are saying "Adding Channel"

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_mike3:

?

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fatrhino:

thats how mine were too, i went in and entered them all manually, im not sure if there is a way to get the values from zap2it to fill in automatically though

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_mike3:

fatrhino: How do you pull up your guide?

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fryfrog:

does anyone know how you get /dev/mdX devices to show up in /dev?

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fryfrog:

is there a module i am forgetting to load?

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BigDog:

try this from your shell : mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates

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fryfrog:

or do i just need to do an mknod on em?

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BigDog:

i had this problem

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_mike3:

BigDog: I have channels on here that I don't even get.

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_mike3:

How do I remove those? I don't have them selected at zp2it

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_mike3:

zap2it

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BigDog:

lemme check my command history

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_mike3:

k thanks

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fatrhino:

pull up the guide while watching tv?

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BigDog:

then I did this: mythfilldatabase --max-days 20

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BigDog:

i think that's what fied it IIRC

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_mike3:

fatrhino: yes

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_mike3:

BigDog: I am doing those commands now

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BigDog:

now if i could just get my preview in the channel guide to display in the correct place, i'd be happier

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_mike3:

I just have channels on there that I don't even get

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_mike3:

like chan 30 i don't get that but yet it lets me select

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BigDog:

_mike3, ok

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BigDog:

hrm...might have to go into mythtvsetup and scan the channels again

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_mike3:

i will try that

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_mike3:

BigDog: You know how to pull up your channel guide?

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BigDog:

i don't while I'm watching tv :)

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BigDog:

IOW, I don't know

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_mike3:

how do you do it else where?

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BigDog:

let's see...

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williammanda:

anyone tell me what could be wrong in mythtv that I can't recieve a channel but I can use vlc and the channel comes right up?

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** BigDog has happauge pvr-350 remote in hand **

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_mike3:

i use the same remote so let me know. :)

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_mike3:

i mean in ALT+G is suppose to but I can't get it to pull up anywhere

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_mike3:

on the keyboard that is

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BigDog:

utils/setup->setup->tv settings->program guide

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BigDog:

then select "show the program guide when watching live tv" or something like that

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_mike3:

hrm...... that's weird..

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_mike3:

I'm confused with this

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_mike3:

how do I delete recording schedules?

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spiderworm:

hey all, playing a DVD i just got from netflix isnt working in myth, and testing the DVD with xine reports a "Suspected RCE Region Protection!!!" error... but mplayer plays it just fine

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BigDog:

i've been playing with mythweb, and did it that way

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_mike3:

with your MCE remote?

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BigDog:

nothing – must not be programmed i guess

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_mike3:

i got mine off the net and mine just jumps ahead and backward.. Can't it just change the channel?

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_mike3:

i have to scroll with the arrows then ok to change channels

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BigDog:

scrolling with the arroes are okay by me

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BigDog:

didn't know that tbh

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Bakefy:

what is the default password for my mysql database?

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BigDog:

root/root

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BigDog:

unless you changed it

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BigDog:

;)

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Bakefy:

thanks!

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_mike3:

it's dumb though. You gotta be able to pull up the guide when watching live tv

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_mike3:

alt g does squat

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BigDog:

does your preview work okay in th guide?

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_mike3:

yah

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BigDog:

mine doesn't

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Bakefy:

mythtv sucks to install.

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Bakefy:

I have been at this for 3 hours

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_mike3:

when your program guide is up and you hit the ok button on a channel what happens?

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BigDog:

it goes to that channel...no sweat

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_mike3:

mine asks me if i want to record

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BigDog:

ahhh

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_mike3:

i'm checking out the lircrc file

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BigDog:

my program guide comes up when I select watch tv, then I select a program that is playing, hit okay, and i'm there

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_mike3:

i have my program guide come up now when selecting watch tv

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BigDog:

_mike3, what kind of video card are you using to watch tv?

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_mike3:

just an nvidia

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_mike3:

64 meg

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BigDog:

which drivers?

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_mike3:

nvidia-drivers

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_mike3:

comes with gentoo

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_mike3:

i know what I gotta do

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BigDog:

checking for fedora 6 x86–64

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BigDog:

heh

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BigDog:

I'm using the drivers from nvidia on my system

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J-e-f-f-A:

_mike3: There's an option in the setup for 'use select to change channels in guide'... (may not have the exact wording right, but you get the idea.)

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squish102:

how do i get labs2it to update my channel name?

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squish102:

it currently says "Standard Bank

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squish102:

David Kropman

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squish102:

cheque acc: 070463360

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squish102:

branch

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squish102:

020109 or Cape Town

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squish102:

opps

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squish102:

it says:

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squish102:

Adding Channel 24

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squish102:

but some of the channels have the right name?

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squish102:

ok here is an easier question

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squish102:

if i have a title search, but i want to exclude a channel, how do i do that?

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hads:

minimyth doesn't have a channel of it's own does it?

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_mike3:

can't get my damn nvidia card to output through composite

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_mike3:

anyone feel like helping. :)

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Bakefy:

is there a file that I can look at that will tell me the password to my mythconverg database

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Bakefy:

hey xris!

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xris:

afk

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Bakefy:

is there a file that I can look at that will tell me the password to my mythconverg database

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kormoc:

~/.mythtv/mysql.txt

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Bakefy:

thanks!

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Bakefy:

is it wierd that there is no text? kormoc

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kormoc:

if it's the user that runs myth, then yes, it would be weird

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Bakefy:

haha

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Bakefy:

brb

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sandeen:

has anyone had trouble with nasty vertical lines on stuff recorded via a PVR-150....

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squish102:

if i am running shourt on the mount point that has my recordings, can i move them somewhere else, until i want to watch/dvd author them?

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hads:

Anyone using minimyth? I'm having a play with it at the moment and X seems to die after mythfrontend finishes pre-scaling theme images

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Dr_willis:

Hmm.. i need to look into minimyth

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hads:

It looks like X is running on terminal 2, which then if I switch terminals around there's a message from init – no more processes left in this runlevel

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mphill:

Anyone have a problem installing on edgy, when a error says it can not create permissions for user identified by wvfotnvh

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TrisMcC:

is it possible to have multiple playback filter profiles?

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TrisMcC:

I don't want to denoise my HDTV recordings

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defaultro:

does it currently do that though?

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TrisMcC:

I'm not sure.

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defaultro:

i don't think that it modifies the stream that is recorded

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defaultro:

it's a straight write

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TrisMcC:

well, on playback...

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TrisMcC:

playback filters

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defaultro:

oh

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defaultro:

man, i'm having a hard time finding flash MX :P

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_mike3:

anyone using geforce here

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_mike3:

?

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_mike3:

I'm going to kill this thing

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_mike3:

I can't get RCA to output

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defaultro:

mine is geforece i guess

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_mike3:

My monitor blinks when starting but that's it

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defaultro:

mike, did you go to CMOS

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_mike3:

I don't know what left to do. I have been working on this for hours

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_mike3:

What's in the cmos???

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defaultro:

you have to tell where you want the primary monitor to be

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defaultro:

is this an AGP card?

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_mike3:

ya

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defaultro:

there you go

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_mike3:

?

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defaultro:

go to CMOS and modify it. maybe it's still pointing to PCI

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defaultro:

however, I don't know if your mobo has a built in vga port

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_mike3:

it doesn't

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defaultro:

i don't know then

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defaultro:

but it doesn't hurt to look at it

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_mike3:

The tv out coming from the card won't output

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defaultro:

what model?

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TrisMcC:

damn, it applies my denoise3d to high def.

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_mike3:

geforce2 mx 200

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TrisMcC:

I don't like that

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defaultro:

TriskMcc, hmmm, interesting

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_mike3:

yah i'm out of ideas. the nvidia-drivers work well with displaying from xorg on the monitor just no output to the tv

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defaultro:

i never saw it

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_mike3:

I don't know..

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_mike3:

I'm so frustrated

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defaultro:

did you boot just the rca conencted to tv?

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defaultro:

i have seen xorg.conf for nvidia tv-outs

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defaultro:

didn't pay attention since i dont have a tvout

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_mike3:

defaultro: I don't know what you mean

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defaultro:

your card has a vga and an RCA output right?

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_mike3:

yes

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defaultro:

remove the vga, leave the rca, and rebot

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defaultro:

reboot

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_mike3:

k sec

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_mike3:

worked

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_mike3:

omg!

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_mike3:

i'm stupid

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defaultro:

it works now?

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_mike3:

yes

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TrisMcC:

I'll have to set the filters per channel.

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defaultro:

YOU ARE THE BEST MIKE!!!!

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_mike3:

hah

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_mike3:

just not working under linux right

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_mike3:

it's showing linux boot

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Dr_willis:

Heh,

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Dr_willis:

most all my nvidia cards work that way as well

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_mike3:

hrm...

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_mike3:

ok once I start X it fucks my screen up

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defaultro:

play with your settings

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Dr_willis:

what i found.. is that if i use the normal x/nvidia config and dont try to set up the tv out.. then just boot with JUST the tv hooked up.. it works. :)

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Dr_willis:

if i have both hooked up – i get the pc monitor.

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Dr_willis:

and yes.. ive twiddles/tweaked/read/fought long and hard with all the nvidia settings stuff. :)

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_mike3:

Dr_willis: Ok i removed all from X and i'm doing a restart

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_mike3:

the best overscan was 0.7

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_mike3:

i can't exceed 1.0 right?

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_mike3:

what are all the overscan values?

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Dr_willis:

its a # from 0 to 1 i think

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_mike3:

so 0.0

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_mike3:

0.1

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_mike3:

0.2

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_mike3:

to 1.0

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_mike3:

?

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Dr_willis:

yep

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_mike3:

Ok well I've rebooted with none of the tvout settings on

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Dr_willis:

My MythTV box isent online... so i cant check my config for ya . sorry

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_mike3:

:(

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Dr_willis:

step daughter is on the mythtv box.. using xp :(

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Dr_willis:

heh

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_mike3:

hrm... Ok nothing is set and when I startx I lose the screen

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_mike3:

hrm.........

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Dr_willis:

what disrto are you using anyway?

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hads:

Hmm, from studying the init sequence in minimyth it looks like mythfrontend is exiting or crashing therefore ending xinit

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_mike3:

gentoo

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_mike3:

could I have to dick around with vertrefresh and horzsync???

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Dr_willis:

i never had to.. but im not sure what kind of default xorg.conf gentoo makes

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Dr_willis:

Ive only used KnoppMyth mainly

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_mike3:

damnit...

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Dr_willis:

good luck

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_mike3:

I'm so close

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_mike3:

WHy the hell won't xorg work with the tv

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_mike3:

i don't know

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_mike3:

i'm freeking getting mad

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ShiftyPowers:

hey guys, are there key commands that I could pass on to lirc that would let me go 1 Home 2 Watch LiveTV 3 Watch Recordings and 4 Watch Videos?

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kormoc:

ShiftyPowers, define them and sure

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ShiftyPowers:

how do I define them?

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ShiftyPowers:

Alt+Home is in the examples but that doesn't work for me

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kormoc:

via the keybinding editor?

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ShiftyPowers:

ahhhhhhh

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ShiftyPowers:

where is that?

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kormoc:

in mythweb or a standalone app called mythcommand or similar I believe

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ShiftyPowers:

mythweb

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ShiftyPowers:

!

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ShiftyPowers:

yes

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ShiftyPowers:

thanks man

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hads:

Yay, sorted it. Of course it was a config error.

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hads:

mythfrontend couldn't find it's theme so was bombing out and therefore stopping X

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hads:

Must say it's quite a cool little distro.

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_mike3:

Hey what are some of your configs for tv's

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_mike3:

seems xorg corroupts my tv

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_mike3:

:(

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kormoc:

https://kormoc.com/stuff/xorg.conf/xorg.conf.tv

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_mike3:

kormoc: No luck with that

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_mike3:

I have the horizsync and vertrefresh the same

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jasoncohen01:

briand: Did you used to live in central NJ?

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waldo:

if i change 'mythcommflag' to 'mythcommflag --gencutlist' in mythtv-setup as the program to flag commercials, flagging fails

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waldo:

why?

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ShiftyPowers:

kormoc, do you know of a command i could send through lirc to both turn mythfrontend on as well as off?

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defaultro:

hi kormoc, any news with GUID in firewire?

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kormoc:

ShiftyPowers, nope

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defaultro:

does anyone know why it takes so long to go back to the menu when we answer "NO" at the question, do you really want to quit in mythfrontend?

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kormoc:

defaultro, what news can there be? it's sitting in trunk where it will stay till the next release

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ShiftyPowers:

defaultro, i think the theme is reloading

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ShiftyPowers:

at least it seems that way

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defaultro:

you mean, it reads the files again?

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defaultro:

kormoc, is the trunk very buggy right now?

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_mike3:

Guess my card isn't camptiable

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_mike3:

that's all I can think of

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ShiftyPowers:

i think so

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ShiftyPowers:

defaultro, but i hvae nothing to base that on

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ShiftyPowers:

so i might be talking ou to fme ass

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kormoc:

defaultro, no more then normal, most of the devs are running trunk all the time sucessfully

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kormoc:

_mike3, what card is it?

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defaultro:

kormoc, hmmm, looks like I want to try it :)

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_mike3:

geforce2 mx200

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kormoc:

_mike3, what version of the drivers are you using?

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defaultro:

Shifty, I'm going to try a very verbose logging

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_mike3:

the newest in portage

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kormoc:

_mike3, support for your card has been dropped awhile ago, you need to use a older driver

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_mike3:

legacy?

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kormoc:

aye

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Fooker:

So is there work currently happening for a windows frontend?

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kormoc:

Fooker, only what you've done

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_mike3:

well let's see if it works because the new nvidia-drivers worked fine when i had it hooked to a monitor

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Fooker:

kormoc: Sweet :P

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defaultro:

Shifty, the log didn't show anything

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kormoc:

_mike3, just cause they dropped support doesn't mean it would magically fail, it's just they won't be testing for issues like you're seeing

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Fooker:

kormoc: Guess I better get started then...

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_mike3:

ok i'm compiling the legacy

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Fooker:

kormoc: Maybe I'll just try and write a shell app for my ssh server to manually modify the mysql db :)

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quink:

hey

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kormoc:

Fooker, there's apps for windows that will allow you to playback recordings and similar (tapeworm), but no real frontends

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kormoc:

quink, check your driver's readme

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quink:

kormoc: its too big before it even gets to an OS

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_mike3:

kormoc: Ok it's working better now

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_mike3:

x goes blank still but when I come out I can actually see the font

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_mike3:

now

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_mike3:

hrm.. any suggestions?

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kormoc:

quink, then your monitor/tv doesn't support standard modes. you will likely have to tweak that hardware

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kormoc:

_mike3, hrm?

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quink:

kormoc: so basically nothing much to be done

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quink:

it worked fine with my old video card but not so much with this one.

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defaultro:

mike, what tv?

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kormoc:

quink, aye, sadly there really isn't anything

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_mike3:

citizen

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kormoc:

quink, you might be able to flash update the videocard if there is a update for it, but that's rather rare

[06:08:42]

quink:

well its an all in one mobo. 6150

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_mike3:

kormoc: I tried all the overscan from 0–1.0

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_mike3:

nothing

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kormoc:

_mike3, what are you trying to do?

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_mike3:

kormoc: Just get X to work on the tv

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defaultro:

mike, what resoultion are you trying

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kormoc:

<_mike3> x goes blank still but when I come out I can actually see the font

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_mike3:

defaultro: I'm letting it auto configure

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kormoc:

what does that mean?

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_mike3:

kormoc: When I would come back to console before it was all garbage on the screen. Now when I come out I'm actually seeing font on the screen

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kormoc:

ahh, gotcha

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kormoc:

have any x logs?

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_mike3:

no but on the screen it says NVIDIA(0): unknown type and a nvidida90): failed to load glx

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_mike3:

and dri module not loaded

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kormoc:

might want to put your xorg.conf up on a pastebin

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kormoc:

and dri isn't used with nvidia's drivers, so that's fine

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_mike3:

eselect how do I switch it again

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_mike3:

it's using x11's

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_mike3:

eselect opengl ?? nvidia

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kormoc:

set

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_mike3:

nothing

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_mike3:

fixed the glx thing

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_mike3:

but still blank screen

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kormoc:

the unknown type points to an error in your xorg.conf

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kormoc:

least, I can't think of anything else that can cause it

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_mike3:

yah I'm lost...

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_mike3:

nVidia GeForce 2 MX 200 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)

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_mike3:

is that in the legacy drivers/

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kormoc:

legacy is 7184

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_mike3:

what about horizsync and vertsync?

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_mike3:

ok how can I get these installed?

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_mike3:

to tell it to install that driver?

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kormoc:

emerge --unmerge nvidia-drivers

[06:18:53]

kormoc:

emerge nvidia-legacy-drivers

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_mike3:

i had that already installed. Wasn't working

[06:19:37]

kormoc:

welp, you might be out of luck then

[06:21:04]

_mike3:

hrm..

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_mike3:

can it be vertrefresh and so on?

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kormoc:

if you entered the values you got from your tv manual, likely not

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_mike3:

I don't have that manual

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_mike3:

Don't even know what they are

[06:22:06]

_mike3:

tried to find it on the net no luck

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** kormoc shrugs **

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_mike3:

citizen brings up a shit load of stuff

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waldo:

mythcommflag? anybody?

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kormoc:

waldo, what about it? you'd likely get better help talking in complete sentences at least...

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waldo:

23:48 < waldo> if i change 'mythcommflag' to 'mythcommflag --gencutlist' in mythtv-setup as the program to flag commercials, flagging fails

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kormoc:

waldo, of course, you need to pass in the correct parms, and you need to run the --gencutlist after it's flagged, not during

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waldo:

oh. is that actually explained anywhere?

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kormoc:

likely not

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waldo:

and what params? the default, which tags commercials just fine, is simply 'mythcommflag'

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waldo:

and how would i have it run a second task after the flagging?

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kormoc:

/usr/bin/mythcommflag -s %STARTTIME% -c %CHANID% --gencutlist

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kormoc:

as a user job

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waldo:

ah, okay

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waldo:

logically.

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waldo:

:] i'll give that a try tomorrow

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quink:

anyone here use a 6100/6150 video card?

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onewheelskyward:

I do

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quink:

things work okay, i mean doesn't cut off the picture or anything?

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onewheelskyward:

Nope. Just get the nVidia X drivers loaded.

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onewheelskyward:

I'm not using the TV out, just the D-SUB.

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quink:

i'm using dvi to a rear projection tv thats supposedly 1080i capable

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onewheelskyward:

Cool.

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quink:

its not working so well.

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_mike3:

question.. would a simple vga to rca adapter do the trick?? kormoc

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quink:

mind posting your xorg.conf?

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kormoc:

_mike3, it might

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onewheelskyward:

My xorg.conf came straight from X -configure.

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_mike3:

why might?

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quink:

onewheelskyward: what resolution you run at?

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onewheelskyward:

1024x768

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_mike3:

I bet you this would work with no problem under windows

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onewheelskyward:

I don't use it to watch the front end, normally.

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waldo:

oh, one more thing, i suppose this is for kormoc since he had the answer last time

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waldo:

how would i convert the .nuv to a .mpg or .... something less obscure?

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kormoc:

nuvexport

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waldo:

as a user job, i assume?

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waldo:

goofy parameters?

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quink:

weird. xorg -configure sets my screen to 720x480.

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kormoc:

it can take command line args, but it all depends on the version of nuvexport you have

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quink:

isn't 1080i 1920x1080?

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onewheelskyward:

You know, I may have had to change the resolution on my last X install, but that was it.

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kormoc:

waldo, nuvexport exports outside of myth, so you'll have two copys of the files, and one that won't delete if you delete it via the frontend

[06:35:18]

waldo:

kormoc: that's fine. if i grab whatever's current, what should the parameters be?

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kormoc:

waldo, I don't know off hand, it should have a --help that will give them

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waldo:

or is it not something i can call automatically from myth?

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kormoc:

just keep in mind, it'll likely take awhile to do

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quink:

this is driving me nuts. i can't figure out a way to make X display stuff right.

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onewheelskyward:

What's funky about it?

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quink:

onewheelskyward: stuff is getting cut off.

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kormoc:

quink, you might need to tell your driver to ignore the edid settings

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onewheelskyward:

Have you plugged it into an actual monitor?

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quink:

kormoc: that'll matter?

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kormoc:

quink, yes, that's what it uses to detect the res of the screen

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xris:

waldo: read the nuvexportrc file for the list of options. --help just sends you to the mythtv wiki page.

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quink:

brb

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_mike3:

this makes me so mad.

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_mike3:

I can't belive I can't get the damn thing to output to my tv.

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_mike3:

Man.........

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_mike3:

seems others have gotten the card to work

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onewheelskyward:

Of *course* that's feasible. :)

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adante:

hey

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adante:

what sort of facilities exist for playing files on dvd-roms (NOT regular mpeg2 dvd-media) with mythtv?

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kormoc:

none

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xris:

kormoc: you sure? I thought that mythvideo had some support for removable media

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kormoc:

i haven't seen any if it does

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kormoc:

under optical media I have play dvd, play vcd, import dvd and eject

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quicksil1er:

adante: sounds like a good plan

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robbins876:

I changed cable providers, and i think my channel line-ups are confused or something

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robbins876:

they appear to be correct on zap2it's webpage, but when i run mythfillldatabase it has them messed up

[07:57:00]

robbins876:

is there a way to "purge" the old lineups and start over with the new?

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xris:

robbins876: you generally need to wipe the channel and program tables, and rerun mfdb with one of the "channel" options to pull down the new channel data, etc

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robbins876:

so, i do that from mythtv-setup?

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xris:

I usually do it by hand

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hads:

You do that with mysql and mythfilldatabase

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xris:

not sure what mythtv-setup would do if you deleted the source and created the new one, though. that *should* work

[08:00:43]

hads:

Yeah, it's probably have a new source id I guess wouldn't it.

[08:00:52]

hads:

s/it's/it'd/

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xris:

hads: doesn't have to, but I think if he did things that way, mythtv would clean up after itself

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** kormoc grumbles about old mysql versions **

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robbins876:

i'm going to go ahead and delete the old source and make a new one... is that the consensus?

[08:02:52]

hads:

I was just thinking outloud that if you deleted the source in mythtv-setup and added a new one then the autoincrement id should be different and therefore not related to the channels anymore

[08:03:15]

hads:

That said, I'd just do it manually too.

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kormoc:

depends on if it's an autoincrement or just an MAX(id)+1

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robbins876:

alright... done, hope it works

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** kormoc is too lazy to check **

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robbins876:

kormoc: over my head

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kormoc:

well, IFNULL(MAX(id),0)+1...

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hads:

OK it got the better of me, it's an autoincrement

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robbins876:

yeah? well i bought a couch

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kormoc:

Ahh... mythtv.... helping humans turn into potatoes for over 4 years and counting

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robbins876:

Anyone watch boxing?

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** xris wonders if they show that on the FedEx channel. **

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hads:

Hmm, can't wait for this DVI module to get here, then I can finish setting up my new frontend. Yay

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robbins876:

alright, so i've got the channels being recognized correctly, but i have no channel names... what's the command to get those?

[08:13:16]

robbins876:

i know it exist, i just can't remember it

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robbins876:

like mythfillsome or something like that

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hads:

mythfilldatabase

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robbins876:

that didn't work

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hads:

Well what are you trying to do?

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robbins876:

i mean, it did, it got the program descriptions and what not, but it didn't fill in the channel names

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hads:

So fill them in

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robbins876:

there's a way to do it automatically

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robbins876:

i can't remember the command, i figured someone here would

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xris:

robbins876: I recommend that you explore the --help option

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robbins876:

mythfilldatabase --help?

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xris:

yes

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robbins876:

there it is... mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates

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robbins876:

for once, i actually found some worht in the "RTFM"

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hads:

Ug

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xris:

robbins876: mythtv's pretty good about some of those things

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robbins876:

alright, well thanks again guys!

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Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v juski

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juski:

mornin

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jduggan:

morning juski

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jduggan:

but it's not a good morning

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jduggan:

:P

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juski:

oh I beg to differ

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juski:

it's friday!

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jduggan:

is it?!

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jduggan:

OMG

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jduggan:

juski

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jduggan:

no shit

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jduggan:

i thought it was thursday

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jduggan:

god damn

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jduggan:

<3

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juski:

rofl

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jduggan:

ok so they day is looking up

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jduggan:

so i found a cheap raid5 card, rocketraid 18 something, worth the money?

[08:37:16]

jduggan:

1820 or something

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xris:

jduggan: for linux? probably not.

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xris:

who makes it?

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juski:

rocketraid? I looked at them

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xris:

ah, high point

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The_Ball:

jduggan, hardware raid5?

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jduggan:

yes hardware

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xris:

The_Ball: no

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jduggan:

oh?

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jduggan:

thought it was hardware

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jduggan:

infact, sure it was

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xris:

jduggan: no. it's driver-assisted hardware. like promise.

[08:38:18]

jduggan:

aaah

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jduggan:

ok thats gay

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xris:

I can get you more info tomorrow if you want it. I know that our proddev guys spent awhile testing the highpoint cards.

[08:38:43]

The_Ball:

get a 3ware

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jduggan:

good job i quesetioned it :)

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xris:

needless to say we don't sell them.

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jduggan:

er, questioned

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jduggan:

xris: heh :)

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xris:

jduggan: for hardware raid, there are only 2 brands in linux worth buying. 3ware, and 3ware. and if you don't mind lesser quality, LSI

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juski:

if you want real raid you must pay

[08:39:41]

juski:

muhahaha

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jduggan:

yea

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jduggan:

we go through alot of raid cards in work

[08:39:57]

jduggan:

but they're like £600 or more

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Dagmar:

If you like your bits juggled, Promise.

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juski:

I can get hdds cheap, but raid cards are just too expensive

[08:40:18]

xris:

Dagmar: promise works ok if you use kernel raid. heh

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The_Ball:

i have a software raid5 6x320Gb at home, but on my crappy server i get 10Mb/s

[08:41:12]

xris:

The_Ball: that's about all my network can do, anyway. :)

[08:41:40]

xris:

jduggan: seriously, though.. if you want hardware raid, you have to pay for it. 3ware and lsi are your only options if you want something that won't randomly blow away your data in linux

[08:42:39]

juski:

buy a server :)

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The_Ball:

xris, i did a dd on a 3ware card at work, steady 500Mb/s, wouldn't do more because dd was running at 99%

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** xris has the hookup for good servers **

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jduggan:

yea i was thinkin about just buying a 2nd hand server from ebay with one in already :P

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Dagmar:

Damnit

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Dagmar:

The Hall of Technical Documentation Weirdness took down the cool image from a Promise RAID manual

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xris:

The_Ball: not surprising. I think I actually get about 20–30M/s on my software raid5

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Dagmar:

It showed an example of RAID striping where a stack of eight numbered blocks got put into arrays as 2, 4, 6, 8 on one disk and 1, 3, 3, 7 on the other.

[08:44:24]

Dagmar:

...which is kinda how they worked.

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The_Ball:

xris, ok, but this is six disks and a old amd t-bird 1400

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xris:

The_Ball: gotcha. yeah, my server is a 3ghz ht p4

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The_Ball:

xris, does a ht cpu show up in cpuinfo as two cores?

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xris:

jduggan: that works, too... though the newer cards are really nice.

[08:45:29]

xris:

The_Ball: yeah.

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xris:

unfortunately. heh

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The_Ball:

why unfortunately?

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xris:

because it's not

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xris:

it's actually both good and bad.

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The_Ball:

the 500Mb/s one is running a xeon 3ghz ht

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xris:

slows down things like video encoding that would benefit from multiple cores

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xris:

jduggan: you need a machine like mythtv.org. :)

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xris:

actually, like the new db servers that we shipped out to linden labs.

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The_Ball:

xris, but still better than a single core though?

[08:47:48]

xris:

The_Ball: of course

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xris:

true dual core is way better, though

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jduggan:

hehe

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jduggan:

we have some cool kit here

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** xris can't remember if it was quad opteron or just quad core. **

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The_Ball:

so is the pricing, xeon ht 3ghz AUD400 xeon core 2 is around AUD1500 i think

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xris:

either way, each server draws about 730w under load

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jduggan:

but it sucks playing with nice kit and going home to a celeron 500 to play with :P

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jduggan:

not that i have a celeron 500

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jduggan:

:)

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xris:

jduggan: what sucks is seeing racks of machines worth more than my house.

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jduggan:

yeap

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jduggan:

true

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xris:

Linden has us shipping out 1 rack per week now... scary growth in second life.

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Dagmar:

So that's what, eleven new users a week?

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jduggan:

rack of kit?

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jduggan:

hmm

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jduggan:

or empty rack :)

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jduggan:

we just had a pile of racks delivered

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xris:

jduggan: rack of these, with dual quad core processors: http://preview-dev.siliconmechanics.com/i8524 . . . .php?cat=393

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xris:

oops

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Dagmar:

I gotta get around to taking a whack at compiling their new opensource client

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jduggan:

all destined to be filled

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xris:

http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i8524/dual-xe . . . .php?cat=393

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xris:

second url

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jduggan:

nice

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xris:

they don't order many of those, though. most racks are 1u dual xeons, I think. just lots of power in a small space.

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jduggan:

yea

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xris:

I only know about the db servers because there was some trouble with the amount of power they were drawing.

[08:52:21]

xris:

more than their colo gave them for the rack.

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jduggan:

heh

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The_Ball:

what bandwidth do you get out of those sas drives?

[08:52:56]

xris:

The_Ball: beats me. I just do the website. heh.

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The_Ball:

i've heard rumors that their damn quick

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xris:

I know they're faster than sata2, and that there were some issues with some of the drives/controllers early on that are now fixed.

[08:54:00]

xris:

speed issues, that is.

[08:57:11]

xris:

The_Ball: you could probably ask kormoc tomorrow. he tends to pay more attention to the hardware stuff than I do.

[08:57:23]

xris:

anyway, enjoy your respective days/evenings. I'm headed to sleep.

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juski:

730W for a server? eep!

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juski:

I'd need a series of ducts to send that around my house

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hads:

Oo, I didn't realise that lirc 0.8.1 supports the mce2 blaster. Nice.

[09:06:41]

juski:

nm. I'll just put a 750GB HDD in my backend instead

[09:06:49]

The_Ball:

juski, it's more of a problem if you live in a varm country

[09:07:12]

The_Ball:

hads, have you tried using it? I haven't bothered yet

[09:07:31]

hads:

Na, I only just read it on the wiki

[09:08:03]

hads:

My blaster works fine so I probably won't bother unless I need to setup a new backend

[09:08:24]

The_Ball:

i haven't found a need for a blaster yet

[09:08:36]

hads:

What's the deal with the two ir heads on the mce anyway?

[09:08:47]

juski:

one tx, one rx ?

[09:08:52]

jduggan:

nod

[09:09:12]

The_Ball:

rx??? i thought they were just dual outputs

[09:09:27]

hads:

Na, there's the big receiver and then two senders that plug into it.

[09:09:46]

hads:

Well, I assumed that they were both tx.

[09:09:48]

The_Ball:

yes, that's what i thought

[09:10:05]

hads:

I don't see why you would need two tx heads though

[09:10:27]

The_Ball:

what if you have two apps you want to controll

[09:11:11]

hads:

Apps?

[09:11:38]

jduggan:

stb's

[09:11:55]

hads:

Yeah

[09:11:56]

The_Ball:

appliances, one sat receiver and one audio amp, for example

[09:12:10]

hads:

Ah, I couldn't figure out what you meant by app :)

[09:12:31]

hads:

I wonder if you can control the tx heads individually

[09:13:05]

The_Ball:

that would be cool so you could control two apps of the same type

[09:14:53]

juski:

time to rtfm on the MCE USB2 then

[09:14:56]

juski:

isn't it?

[09:17:32]

The_Ball:

depends if there is a fm

[09:17:47]

The_Ball:

as in "fine manual" of course

[09:18:32]

juski:

the f can stand for whatever you like

[09:18:42]

juski:

since the manual is rarely fine

[09:21:03]

hads:

From memory it comes with a little paper booklet with no info in it.

[09:22:08]

hads:

That and I don't really care at the moment :)

[09:22:43]

juski:

nor me :)

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stuarta:

morning all

[09:30:38]

hads:

Evening

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juski:

morning stuarta

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[09:34:53]

** stuarta is still hammered from last night **

[09:35:32]

juski:

big night oot?

[09:35:49]

stuarta:

yeah, mate is going back to NZ

[09:35:58]

stuarta:

snakebites all night...

[09:36:12]

hads:

NZ? Cool

[09:36:34]

stuarta:

that's where he's from originally....

[09:36:41]

hads:

Me also

[09:36:53]

** stuarta is from Aus originally **

[09:37:18]

hads:

Cool, in the UK now I take it from the morning thing?

[09:37:35]

stuarta:

yup, been here since 2000

[09:38:01]

hads:

Cool

[09:39:20]

** stuarta needs to give up drinking **

[09:39:21]

juski:

heh. HR have sent me a display screen risk assessment form

[09:39:34]

juski:

it's gonna go back to them with grammar & spelling corrections

[09:39:38]

stuarta:

800x600 should be put down as a risk.

[09:39:41]

juski:

give up drinking?!

[09:39:53]

stuarta:

i say it, i never do it

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[09:40:15]

hads:

That's a terrible thing to say

[09:40:15]

stuarta:

the bacon & egg sarnie was good.

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stuarta:

sadly nobody believes me....

[09:41:57]

stuarta:

and i can't see it happening either...

[09:42:13]

juski:

won't do you harm to cut back for a while

[09:42:46]

hads:

Of course, it would be good for you. Like that's going to happen though :)

[09:42:51]

juski:

I know folks who swear by their detox periods

[09:43:06]

quicksil1er:

as opposed to 'during'

[09:44:02]

stuarta:

i used to get hammered all the time...

[09:44:18]

stuarta:

pub work was fun.

[09:44:26]

hads:

It's a sign of getting old.

[09:44:32]

stuarta:

out till 3am drinking

[09:44:37]

hads:

Hah, good call stuarta

[09:44:44]

stuarta:

back in the next morning at 8am for deliveries

[09:45:00]

juski:

used to DJ 6 nights a week, plastered

[09:45:05]

hads:

The only problem is if you have to count the takings...

[09:45:08]

stuarta:

still hammered, with two bacon & egg muffins from the evil arches

[09:45:44]

stuarta:

hads: you count, then get hammered...

[09:45:55]

hads:

Opps, was that the problem :)

[09:46:06]

** stuarta has seen the sun come up more than a few times. **

[09:47:45]

hads:

Yup, used to get caught by the cleaners coming in at 10ish occasionally :)

[09:49:33]

juski:

first club I ever worked at, the owners were lazy buggers. me & a mate used to be given the keys to lock up. many a morning we went outside to find the sun had come up. after hours staff parties are the best part of working in the leisure trade

[09:50:08]

Dagmar:

And here I was thinking it was the bitches

[09:50:20]

stuarta:

that's just a bonus

[09:50:23]

Dagmar:

er... girls of relaxed virtue

[09:50:35]

juski:

I've said this before, it's not all that good if it's on a plate & you don't have to work for it

[09:51:01]

** stuarta fondly remembers a 19yr old blonde, one of a set of twins **

[09:51:17]

Dagmar:

This depends on how many bungee cords and ceiling hooks you have handy.

[09:51:18]

juski:

bucket parties at barmaids houses :)

[09:51:25]

juski:

ahh those were the days

[09:52:41]

Dagmar:

I don't notice many artists whining about the fact that they can just go to the store and buy lots of different acrylic paints.

[09:54:08]

hads:

heh

[09:54:21]

Dagmar:

You will never successfully propagate your genes in sufficient numbers with that attitude, juski.

[09:56:10]

** stuarta attempts to crawl under the desk and die. **

[09:56:34]

** hads knows that feelsing well **

[09:56:54]

stuarta:

we've all been there, done that, bought the t-shirt

[09:57:02]

stuarta:

and *still* go back for more

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hads:

I went to a batchelor party last Sunday and was quite unwell, 6pm came around and I still had a cold sweat going on :/

[09:58:02]

hads:

Got there in the end though. Was a good night

[09:58:36]

stuarta:

pre-hangover cure part 2 -> salt n vinegar chips

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hads:

Bloody mary

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stuarta:

none of those in the office

[10:00:15]

hads:

Hah, true. I'm in weekend mode now.

[10:01:03]

stuarta:

for you at least. roll on 5pm

[10:05:10]

juski:

device nodes not being created? wrong driver modules maybe?

[10:05:16]

juski:

bad udev rules?

[10:06:07]

juski:

damn. got to get back on track searching for db-9 sockets :(

[10:06:08]

seppl:

juski: sorry but what is a device node? The kernels loades the modules by itself but as far as I read they are right

[10:06:20]

juski:

device nodes are things in /dev

[10:06:38]

seppl:

juski: the same rule worked for my dvb-s card. Now it's a Nova-T

[10:07:16]

juski:

other than the fact they're not interchangable what does that tell you? ;)

[10:08:15]

stuarta:

!trout udev

[10:08:15]

** MythLogBot slaps udev with a trout on behalf of stuarta... **

[10:08:37]

juski:

udev !rules

[10:08:40]

juski:

;)

[10:10:46]

stuarta:

EBRAINHURTS

[10:12:31]

juski:

!trout purchasing_dept. cluebat

[10:12:31]

** MythLogBot slaps purchasing_dept. with a cluebat trout on behalf of juski... **

[10:12:58]

stuarta:

what this time?

[10:15:08]

juski:

asked to assess a component for suitability, with a new variant of connector whose part number has an 'L' in it. no reference to 'L' designators in the datasheet

[10:15:43]

stuarta:

lets buy non existing stuff.... good plan....

[10:15:47]

juski:

it's not rohs compliant anyway so christ only knows why they're still interested in buying it#

[10:16:02]

stuarta:

$$

[10:16:23]

juski:

infact none of the bloody part number matches what the datasheet says

[10:16:32]

juski:

apart from the 1st 3 numbers

[10:16:35]

juski:

IDIOTS

[10:16:59]

stuarta:

and they only specify the manufacturer :)

[10:18:08]

juski:

wonder what'd happen in purchasing ever get a clue

[10:18:13]

juski:

s/in/if

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stuarta:

not going to happen...

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juski:

heh. same thing goes for marketing too

[10:22:06]

juski:

dilbert seems less funny the more I realise it's all true to life

[10:22:48]

juski:

ahh now this other datasheet I found myself seems like it's the ticket

[10:24:00]

juski:

nope. no mention of the 'l' option

[10:26:38]

juski:

time to bring out the cattleprod

[10:26:49]

juski:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzT!

[10:28:16]

juski:

hahahaa see attached sheet. what attached sheet? and you lot wonder why I'm such a bad person all the time

[10:28:37]

Ruleke:

It must be you

[10:28:52]

Ruleke:

none of us experience stuff like that

[10:28:58]

Ruleke:

*cough*

[10:29:02]

juski:

and my superiority complex?

[10:29:09]

juski:

;)

[10:29:25]

Ruleke:

don't worry about that, it can't be harmed by mere mortals

[10:31:14]

juski:

ach well I'll just look up some switches instead

[10:32:01]

** Ruleke studies the quote from the vendor **

[10:32:32]

** stuarta tries to look busy, but reads the register instead **

[10:33:12]

juski:

the alps website is full of nice diversions

[10:33:24]

stuarta:

the alps?

[10:33:42]

juski:

alps.com

[10:34:18]

juski:

I'm a recovering fader enthusiast

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stuarta:

alps is not for me

[10:38:26]

juski:

hmmm. another part number that doesn't seem to exist

[10:42:01]

Dagmar:

Why, one would almost think you're trying to buy something from Radio Shack.

[10:45:40]

juski:

look up a component in the databsae, get the manufacturers part number, look up that part number to compare it with a proposed new part.. Edoesnotexist

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juski:

what the heck is a gm ?

[10:59:40]

juski:

some USA abbrev. of gramme?

[11:01:00]

stuarta:

if it's talking about a weight then yes

[11:01:38]

juski:

weird. what's wrong with SI notation ?

[11:01:40]

stuarta:

though 'g' is the proper term

[11:02:20]

juski:

anyway g is a unit of mass, not force. the spec. is 'operating force'.

[11:02:29]

** juski ia very pedantic today **

[11:02:53]

juski:

this is like comparing apples with oranges

[11:03:24]

stuarta:

maybe it's not gramme then...

[11:03:31]

opello:

gram meter? :)

[11:03:51]

opello:

or gramme-metre i suppose

[11:03:52]

Dagmar:

Game Master

[11:04:28]

juski:

gaenecologically modified?

[11:05:14]

opello:

gastronomical monstrosity

[11:05:20]

stuarta:

outrageous! england won a game of cricket!

[11:05:39]

stuarta:

against australia!

[11:05:43]

juski:

don't worry. it won't happen again

[11:05:44]

quicksil1er:

stuarta: yeah, I noticed that. Weird.

[11:06:27]

stuarta:

whatever happened to total and absolute crushing victory without losing a single game in the whole series???

[11:06:41]

juski:

another switch manufacturer quoting gm and saying grams of force. it's MASS not force. fecking idiots

[11:07:01]

** stuarta pats juski's high horse **

[11:08:18]

quicksil1er:

I think 'gram force' is acceptable

[11:08:23]

quicksil1er:

q.v. 'pound force'

[11:09:42]

juski:

force == mass x area

[11:10:39]

juski:

aanyway

[11:10:46]

juski:

whoah! that's a long way down!

[11:11:05]

** stuarta shoots juski's high horse for biting him **

[11:11:22]

quicksil1er:

juski: force = mass x area? wtf?

[11:11:27]

** quicksil1er thinks juski's flipped. **

[11:11:31]

Dagmar:

lol

[11:11:45]

quicksil1er:

the 'a' word you're looking for is acceleration, dude :P

[11:11:46]

juski:

whatever

[11:11:52]

Dagmar:

mass x area == splatter zone

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quicksil1er:

:)

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juski:

shit day today, innit?

[11:16:51]

Dagmar:

Noo... It's a *good* day

[11:16:53]

Dagmar:

We're getting SNOW!

[11:17:15]

** stuarta demands snow **

[11:17:34]

stuarta:

sadly it's positively tropical for this time of year.

[11:17:46]

Dagmar:

Not much, but enough to make the idiots around here completely panic in the morning when they get up and see all two inches of it

[11:17:48]

Dagmar:

http://mtsh.org/radar/

[11:17:57]

juski:

snow would be great, but only if it's enough to stop all traffic enough for me to not have to bother *trying* to come into work

[11:18:49]

juski:

what I'm doing today (changing the laws of physics, apparently), I could do at home

[11:28:31]

Ruleke:

juski : I thought you weren't an american... you're supposed to know your units :P

[11:29:46]

juski:

units.. just got a very basic thing glaringly wrong

[11:30:23]

Dagmar:

Got your pounds mixed up with your ounces?

[11:30:30]

juski:

looks like an A in GCSE physics counts for nowt 20 years later

[11:30:45]

juski:

wtf is an ounce? ;)

[11:30:59]

Dagmar:

It's one of those strange American things.

[11:31:07]

juski:

no need to say strange

[11:31:23]

Dagmar:

Like considering all digits equally significant because otherwise some of them are going to file a suit against you.

[11:32:09]

juski:

anyway I thought SI units were universal, hence the confuzzlement over 'gm'

[11:32:34]

juski:

you americans, always deciding that standards aren't for you

[11:32:49]

Ruleke:

gm is clearly incorrect

[11:32:55]

Ruleke:

they could be meaning 'gf'

[11:32:59]

Ruleke:

still not SI though

[11:33:09]

Ruleke:

but you can convert it to newtons :)

[11:33:27]

Dagmar:

Because they're made of cake, and everyone likes cake

[11:33:29]

juski:

if I don't know what they mean by 'gm' I can't convert it to anything

[11:33:38]

Ruleke:

yep

[11:33:57]

Ruleke:

thoguh gram-force could be logical :)

[11:34:13]

Ruleke:

convert it to dynes and mail them if it's equivalent hehe

[11:34:56]

Dagmar:

juski: It's not a lack of respect for standards. It's called "innovation"

[11:35:06]

juski:

they might mean gigametres..

[11:35:12]

quicksil1er:

The best unit of mass is 'hundredweightforce fortnights per fathom'

[11:35:18]

Ruleke:

juski :)

[11:35:19]

juski:

but you don't measure force in metres either ;)

[11:35:39]

Dagmar:

That's right. You use furlongs for that.

[11:35:42]

** juski sends Tyco/AMP back to college **

[11:35:48]

juski:

then goes back there himself

[11:36:08]

Ruleke:

well most of the time it's an abbreviation for gram but if they state 'force' it becomes even more confuzzling :)

[11:36:27]

quicksil1er:

standards are slippery, I was taught at school that all the 'bigger than 1' units should be capitalised (D,H,K,M,G...) and smaller-than-1 should be lowercase (d,c,m,mu,n,p)

[11:36:37]

Ruleke:

heh

[11:36:46]

juski:

according to wikiwikiwikiwiki 'gm' is an erroneous abbr. for gram

[11:36:49]

Dagmar:

I was taught that the base of the number matters

[11:36:51]

quicksil1er:

this makes perfect sense (and you need to distinguish d and D and m and M)

[11:36:57]

Ruleke:

that's not a standard, that's just taught wrongly :P

[11:37:00]

quicksil1er:

but nobody bothers

[11:37:20]

Ruleke:

juski: look up gf

[11:37:29]

Ruleke:

I like that :)

[11:38:23]

quicksil1er:

Ruleke: I think it was a standard actually, just never adopted

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Ruleke:

quicksil1er: which one ?

[11:43:10]

Ruleke:

quicksil1er: ah the caps stuff ? no

[11:44:30]

quicksil1er:

Ruleke: well you will note that it is *almost* true; only K->k is an exception in common usage

[11:44:41]

Ruleke:

hecto

[11:44:49]

Ruleke:

deca

[11:44:54]

Ruleke:

bit special deca though ;)

[11:45:00]

quicksil1er:

surely Deca is a big D?

[11:45:06]

quicksil1er:

otherwise how do you tell it from deci?

[11:45:11]

Ruleke:

no

[11:45:13]

Ruleke:

deca is da

[11:45:18]

** Ruleke slaps quicksil1er **

[11:45:21]

quicksil1er:

well that's just really stupid :P

[11:45:31]

Ruleke:

this is 3rd grade stuff

[11:45:40]

Ruleke:

when you are 10

[11:46:06]

Ruleke:

quicksil1er: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_prefixes#Harmonization : )

[11:46:09]

juski:

deca is an order of magnitude?

[11:46:10]

quicksil1er:

if that's an attempt to patronise me, don't bother

[11:46:47]

juski:

see how sarcasm works well in IRC ;)

[11:46:58]

Ruleke:

:P

[11:47:20]

Ruleke:

I suppose one shoudl use more 'emoticons'

[11:47:25]

Ruleke:

let's invent one for it :P

[11:50:14]

Dagmar:

:|

[11:50:16]

juski:

think I'll move my svn repo today

[11:50:30]

stuarta:

oooo

[11:51:13]

juski:

aye – all set up, stuff checked in & out :)

[11:51:39]

juski:

revision 1 of everything is live

[11:51:39]

Ruleke:

quicksil1er: not really, more a frustration outcry, nothing personal :P

[11:51:39]

stuarta:

not to hard it it :)

[11:51:43]

stuarta:

is it...

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juski:

hahahaha. just received an email from purchasing telling me where the dome camera samples are. they're "in dave" apparently. poor dave!

[11:57:07]

Dagmar:

Man, those are probably giving him some cramps at the very least.

[11:57:48]

Dagmar:

If he's using them for a website, hopefully he's at least making money with them, although I don't know who would like to see live innards on the intertubes

[11:57:49]

juski:

enough to make your eyes water

[11:58:07]

Dagmar:

...at least, not enough to pay money to see them.

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daviey:

on ubuntu where is /var/www/mythweb normally a symlink to??

[12:24:24]

Ruleke:

you're not setting up those cameras are you 'dave' ? :)

[12:24:31]

imperfect-:

the new mythweb has ASX links...

[12:24:37]

imperfect-:

Anyone know how to make em work?

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juski:

heh. I said SET the cameras up, not *get* the cameras up

[12:29:33]

Ruleke:

maybe the instructions were translated from chinese :)

[12:29:48]

Ruleke:

not that 'hole', dave

[12:30:10]

Dagmar:

It's a shame there's no CLI argument to make the frontend just go straight to the program guide

[12:30:15]

Dagmar:

It would make theme work a bit easier

[12:30:52]

daviey:

juski, is dave normally on top of you – that would explain why they said up (with) dave?

[12:31:10]

juski:

no no no, we can't go making theming easier. make it harder if anything

[12:31:21]

juski:

:)

[12:31:33]

daviey:

juski, obv. i mean on the floor above you ;P

[12:31:38]

juski:

daviey: i don't even know who dave is

[12:31:44]

daviey:

i'm dave

[12:32:40]

Dagmar:

bleh

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stuarta:

exactly how i feel

[12:33:58]

Dagmar:

Hmm... I wonder when ijr is going to notice I solved my own enhancement ticket.

[12:34:16]

Dagmar:

I figured such a thing would give him warm fuzzies

[12:35:41]

Dagmar:

I love that someone again filed a ticket saying that the uPnP server makes his remote control crash.

[12:36:01]

Dagmar:

The model in question easily costs upwards of $250

[12:36:36]

daviey:

*keen*

[12:36:47]

Dagmar:

YEah, I'm emailing a friend of mine over at ISS about it right now.

[12:41:41]

juski:

or maybe it was /usr/share/www was linked to /var/www

[12:41:59]

daviey:

juski, it's there but defaulting not viewable

[12:42:07]

daviey:

(by default)

[12:42:35]

juski:

I'd only just got used to gentoo using a 'proper' apache config, then switched to ubunut

[12:43:03]

Dagmar:

It's easier if you just give up using other people's and roll your own.

[12:43:07]

daviey:

hmm. last night i added a user to www-data group. Maybe thats the problem

[12:43:09]

Dagmar:

Then at least you know where *you* put the files.

[12:43:22]

juski:

easier said than done though, isn't it?

[12:43:26]

Dagmar:

deviey: I'd just chown the data directory to be owned by the httpd user

[12:43:43]

Dagmar:

There's not much point in bothering with group permissions on this

[12:43:50]

daviey:

Dagmar, that would fix that; but wouldn't fix my php issue. They must be linked

[12:44:11]

juski:

anyway I can't remember what I did. it works now (tm)

[12:44:27]

daviey:

Dagmar, i edited /etc/groups because i wanted to add user 'asterisk' to www-data.

[12:45:01]

Dagmar:

Ah so you want asterisk to be able to modify your mythweb installation then.

[12:45:03]

Dagmar:

Very cunning.

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daviey:

Dagmar, cheeky. No i also have asterisk installed on the box; and i want user asterisk to modify the web frontend for that

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daviey:

cheeky sod

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daviey:

fixing /etc/groups didn't do it

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daviey:

looks like a fresh install is required

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daviey:

yepeee

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daviey:

now, shall i carry on the edgy go back to dapper?!

[12:51:55]

Dagmar:

Use whichever one you know best.

[12:51:56]

Ruleke:

I'm starting to be glad I never tried ubuntu

[12:53:17]

juski:

Wedgy or Diaper.. hmmm

[12:53:42]

Dagmar:

Yeeees... well.

[12:54:00]

Dagmar:

Some people on Gnome-look.org apparently forgot about the cleavage on the desktop thing

[12:54:20]

Dagmar:

I would kinda like to know what http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=52586 has to do with Indiana Jones

[12:54:31]

Dagmar:

Umm.. not really safe for work, that

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daviey:

yeah thats safe, you can't quite see the james blunt

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juski:

we have enough James blunts at work thanks

[12:58:23]

daviey:

Dagmar, http://oemioyaga.googlepages.com/ubuntu-wallp . . . -1024x76.jpg

[12:58:28]

daviey:

ntfw

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Dagmar:

I'll just be mailing that URL to myself so I can look at it properly when I get home

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Ruleke:

heh

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Ruleke:

too low in resolution for a background

[13:00:22]

Dagmar:

Ah but not too low to admire

[13:00:45]

juski:

I want to leave my job of my own accord so I'll wait

[13:01:09]

Ruleke:

haha

[13:01:20]

Ruleke:

ssh tunnel :)

[13:01:28]

daviey:

Ruleke, there is a bigger one

[13:01:31]

Dagmar:

Heheheh

[13:01:40]

Dagmar:

De magical wonders of an exported X display

[13:01:56]

daviey:

Dagmar, freenx or proper?

[13:02:05]

Ruleke:

Dagmar: no a tunneled squid

[13:02:10]

Dagmar:

Just plain old X to Cygwin over OpenSSH

[13:02:15]

juski:

all well & good if your can hude your monitor

[13:02:20]

Ruleke:

where's the bigger one then

[13:02:21]

juski:

*hide

[13:02:23]

Dagmar:

OpenSSH and PuTTY

[13:02:28]

Ruleke:

I'll set it as my work desktop :)

[13:02:31]

juski:

vnc :)

[13:02:50]

juski:

tried several times to get freenx worky on ubunut but it's not happening

[13:02:53]

daviey:

Dagmar, isn't DNS still done locally though?

[13:03:06]

daviey:

ie a Sysadmin can see what sites your going to

[13:03:34]

Ruleke:

yep if dns lookups are monitored, you can do dns lookups on the remote end too if you want

[13:03:47]

daviey:

juski, use the real one; freenx i couldn't get working either. But for 3(?) users nomachines one is free

[13:04:01]

Dagmar:

daviey: nope

[13:04:08]

juski:

I'm not that arsed tbh. vnc does the job

[13:04:18]

Dagmar:

I can run Firefox on my machine at home and the display appears here, no problem

[13:04:39]

daviey:

Dagmar, i can run firefox on my local machine aswell ;P

[13:04:44]

Ruleke:

I'm not worried about dns lookups, I control those machines :P

[13:05:31]

Ruleke:

Dagmar: meh the picture isn't very good quality :(

[13:05:56]

Dagmar:

It's the thought that counts I suppose

[13:14:12]

daviey:

Can i really be bothered to install my OS from scratch

[13:14:34]

daviey:

It aint even got got a cd drive attached..... So i would have to plug it in

[13:15:02]

daviey:

Then i need to back up /etc /home

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daviey:

hmm, how can i do a mysqldump for all my databases

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daviey:

(not just mythconverg)

[13:30:04]

rsdvd_:

mysqldump --all-databases (taken from typing mysqldump at the prompt :-) )

[13:31:26]

daviey:

doh!

[13:31:38]

rsdvd_:

:-) or shortened to -A

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Dagmar:

mysqldump mythconverg mysql

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Dagmar:

It's not like you have bunches of them unless you've been using your DB for other things

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daviey:

mysqldump --opt -u root -p --all-databases > databasedump.txt

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daviey:

that should do it right?

[13:33:33]

Dagmar:

Oh god no.

[13:33:40]

Dagmar:

That'll tear out the back wall of your apartment.

[13:33:46]

daviey:

Dagmar, i have 4 databases; i wanted them dumped into a single sql file

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daviey:

haha

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rsdvd_:

what is the --opt for?

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daviey:

dunno, thought it looked goood

[13:35:05]

daviey:

(it worked btw) thanks

[13:35:08]

Dagmar:

It's for when your database is down with OPT

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Dagmar:

(yeah you know me)

[13:36:33]

Ruleke:

what was that tool to analyse an mpeg2 file ?

[13:37:35]

daviey:

mk1eye

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Ruleke:

daviey: hmm ?

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daviey:

hmm.. what else needs backing up /etc/* /home

[13:38:58]

daviey:

Ruleke, sorry – i'm wrong

[13:42:22]

juski:

heh. i got freenx worky

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juski:

well, it started a blank X session anyway

[13:43:11]

daviey:

gdm or just blank??

[13:43:33]

juski:

blank

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daviey:

trific

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juski:

better than before – wasn't even connecting

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juski:

whee

[13:44:34]

juski:

full desktop

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juski:

this is quite nippy compared to vnc

[13:48:55]

juski:

or rather, it's like vnc is at home, only over the intarweb0r thingy

[13:49:04]

Ruleke:

the tubes you mean

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Ruleke:

:p

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juski:

quite

[13:50:14]

juski:

ye gads! I'll be able to show off mythtv properly here – obviously without video like but hey

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rsdvd_:

juski – are you on windows? how do you get freenx to run on windows?

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juski:

work is always on windows :(

[14:01:43]

juski:

freenx server 1.5.something

[14:01:53]

juski:

freenx client for windows 1.5.something

[14:01:55]

juski:

:)

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rsdvd_:

ok – I use colinux on the windows PC to get an xserver and a complete *nix environment

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juski:

problem I had with it not being worky before was that I'd been using the 2.x client

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juski:

just realised another upside to this freenx – frees up a port :)

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_mike3_:

Hey guys.. i've install mythweb and changed the variables for the database in .htaccess. when I try to browse the site it comes back and complains that the variables in .htaccess are wrong. PHP is properly working. I've tested this by making a .php file with phpinfo() and it shows php info. So it's up and working.. Any ideas what else I need to check or change in mythweb

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_mike3_:

I followed the guides online. This is a gentoo box

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rsdvd:

"complains that the variables in .htaccess are wrong" – what is the error message

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_mike3_:

rsdvd: sorry

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_mike3_:

i will get it

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_mike3_:

Database Setup Error

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_mike3_:

The database environment variables are not correctly set in the included .htaccess file. Please read through the comments included in the file and setup the db_*environment variables correctly.

[14:56:02]

_mike3_:

Some possible solutions are to make sure the mod_env is enabled in httpd.conf, as well as having followed the insructions in the README about the AllowOverride settings.

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_mike3_:

mod_env is available

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_mike3_:

db_server "localhost" db_name and the rest are all correct.

[15:02:04]

_mike3_:

what else could be causing this?

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rsdvd:

i would try setting the server to a real ip not localhost

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_mike3_:

mysql won't allow that for the users. It's an access denied

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_mike3_:

i tried for the heck of it and no diff

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juski:

try db_server with the machine's real ip address

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rsdvd:

that is what i said

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_mike3_:

I tried that. no luck

[15:20:20]

GreyFoxx:

jesus

[15:20:38]

GreyFoxx:

We've got a colo customer thjat has hardware raid turned on on his motherboard,

[15:20:45]

GreyFoxx:

running software raid ontop of it

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juski:

heheh

[15:20:53]

GreyFoxx:

AND LVM on top of that

[15:21:13]

juski:

overkill on the overkill, in overdrive eh

[15:21:20]

GreyFoxx:

*shakes head*

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jams:

asking for trouble

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juski:

ooo 3.30pm

[15:31:29]

juski:

should I say time to scoot & make my hours up next week or stay longer.. hmmm

[15:31:58]

juski:

scoot!

[15:32:47]

** jams pushes juski towards the door **

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Dagmar:

"Key-based root logins are quite secure."

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Dagmar:

LOL

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rsdvd:

poets day

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Dagmar:

All things considered, mine is probably the most gentle LARTing that guy is going to get.

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_mike3_:

this is completely stupid. I don't understand why this won't work

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_mike3_:

urg!

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_mike3_:

for crying out loud.. Why the hell won't mythweb work

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jcopper:

whats the prob works great for mw

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_mike3_:

database error stating to check my variables in .htaccess

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_mike3_:

i only changed the database stuff

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jcopper:

make sure that the symlinks are in tact that. That caused me a bunch of problems b/c they wernt set right for me

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_mike3_:

how do i check that

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_mike3_:

?

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jcopper:

in both .htaccess files

[16:11:55]

Dagmar:

You use vi and your eyeballs, usually.

[16:12:05]

Dagmar:

You can try calling Ms. Cleo, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

[16:12:09]

jcopper:

look at www/mthweb by do ls -ln and make sure those links exist

[16:12:58]

_mike3_:

links?

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jcopper:

symlinks

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_mike3_:

there is no symlinks setup

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_mike3_:

i just have the mythweb extracted under my document root

[16:13:54]

_mike3_:

so there is a sub directory called mythweb

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jcopper:

mythweb uses /var/mythweb out of the box and my locations for recordings was differenent

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_mike3_:

gentoo system here

[16:14:07]

jcopper:

yes there is

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jcopper:

that is what I use as well

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jcopper:

gentoo rocks

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_mike3_:

ok hrm..

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_mike3_:

there is no symlinks under mythweb

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_mike3_:

just more sub directories..

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jcopper:

did you emerge mythtv or build it from tar

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_mike3_:

emerge

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_mike3_:

how basic can this be

[16:25:04]

_mike3_:

geez! Mythweb ;lkdsajf;lsajfd;lajfdsafd

[16:32:24]

_mike3_:

holy mother of!

[16:32:25]

_mike3_:

i got it

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juski:

wheee

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juski:

how's y'ed, stuarta ?

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juski:

doing the braincell fsck yet...?

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threedaymonk:

I'm looking for a DVB-T tuner with the following requirements: cheap; USB connection; allows access to raw multiplex data under Linux. Any recommendations?

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juski:

threedaymonk: YMMV

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juski:

I dunno if anybody can tell you about being able to access raw mux data..

[16:55:06]

juski:

anyway as far as mythtv is concerned, you can't yet use the whole mux

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juski:

aaand it's not likely any time soon either

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threedaymonk:

that's fine; this won't be using mythtv initially, but I figured that this would be a good place to ask

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threedaymonk:

I need to be able to access programme streams for several channels on the same multiplex with one tuner

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juski:

you'll be needing to use VDR then

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gardengnome:

re

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threedaymonk:

ah, I hadn't seen that before; tanks for the tip

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threedaymonk:

I think I can use dvbstream for what I want, though

[16:59:01]

threedaymonk:

Basically, the challenge is to build a whole-multiplex seven-day time-shifter as cheaply as possible

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rsdvd:

good evening gardengnome

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juski:

everybody wants the Earth for free, eeee I dunno

[17:02:24]

threedaymonk:

really? how ironic!

[17:02:25]

juski:

evening gardengnome :)

[17:02:36]

juski:

how's that ironic?

[17:02:36]

ivor:

yeah what was it called....

[17:02:46]

ivor:

phoenix or something.... where's google.

[17:02:48]

threedaymonk:

we are trying to do this to prove that the BBC shouldn't use DRM on their internet player

[17:03:03]

ivor:

"pandora"

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juski:

threedaymonk: mind if I ask who for?

[17:03:14]

juski:

haha pandora's box :)

[17:03:22]

ivor:

indeed. you know techies. :)

[17:03:26]

juski:

the GUI looked very erm... mythic

[17:03:32]

threedaymonk:

the idea being that if you can make a cheap time shifting box that gives the same without DRM, DRM is dead

[17:03:51]

threedaymonk:

juski: it's just me and a colleague

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juski:

threedaymonk: I thought that the bbc trust had more or less ruled out the beeb using MS DRM because it has to be platform agnostic

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threedaymonk:

sadly, that's not the case

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threedaymonk:

they have to implement a realplayer-based solution in a reasonable time frame

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juski:

not how El Reg or digitalspy spun it

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juski:

anyway bbl – I need to eat

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threedaymonk:

but that will still be restricted to win/mac/x86 linux

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juski:

have fun

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threedaymonk:

thanks ;-)

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esperegu:

saluton

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esperegu:

I have a question. I recorded a movie yesterday and would like to watch it. How should I start to play it?L

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juski:

please don't answer that ANYBODY

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esperegu:

(this is probably a stupid question but

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esperegu:

juski: why's that?

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juski:

you would like to WATCH a RECORDING and you're wondering which menu allows you to WATCH RECORDINGS from ?

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Dagmar:

Because it's an impossibly dim question.

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Dagmar:

Only the mentally disabled can ask something like that.

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juski:

and you managed to install mythtv & get it working?!

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esperegu:

juski: ok. where should I look for the recording in the WATCH RECORDING menu? Of course I opened that about a dozen times

[17:37:23]

juski:

ah

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juski:

default filter problem

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esperegu:

it shows in the mythweb site

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juski:

press M while in the watch recordings screen & select a recording group to view

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Dagmar:

heh

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esperegu:

... k off trying that

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juski:

I remember seeing that and wondering wtf was up

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esperegu:

juski: THX!

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esperegu:

now I have to check why there is no sound....

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juski:

sorry for the confusion – but we do get people that daft in here

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H00chster:

esperegu check out your utilities/setup then setup then general section for audio setup

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H00chster:

well the question was kinda null juski heh!

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H00chster:

till it was explained lol

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grndslm:

anybody know why my ivtv module won't load properly??? (using a pvr500 & ivtv-0.7.3 on kernel 2.6.17 / ubuntu edgy)....i get these errors after dmesg:

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grndslm:

[17237039.696000] ivtv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_read

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grndslm:

[17237039.696000] ivtv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog

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Dagmar:

Yeah, you didn't compile that for your kernel

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Dagmar:

...because your kernel would have those symbols or ivtv would refuse to compile

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quink:

morning

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kslater:

quink must be way west of me

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grndslm:

Dagmar: so i need to recompile the kernel??

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quink:

los angeles

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kslater:

only a couple thousand miles then

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Dagmar:

grndslm: That's a good start

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grndslm:

Dagmar: this is too odd because i've setup mythtv a few times before, and i never had to compile my own kernel....always worked after make && make installing the ivtv driver, and then modpobe ivtv !!!

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Dagmar:

That's very special.

[17:52:40]

Dagmar:

You didn't make the mistake before that you did this time

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grndslm:

hmm....well, thanks for the encouragement, Dagmar

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kslater:

grndslm: perhaps you had kernels with ivtv built in in the past

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grndslm:

kslater: i've tried on edgy before...so kernel 2.6.17 shouldn't be the problem...maybe a smaller revision like 2.6.17–10 could make a difference??

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kslater:

dunno, never played in the ubuntu distros before

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grndslm:

yea guess i will have to start over and see if i still get this same error

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grndslm:

thanks guys...

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Dagmar:

Here's a hint.

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Dagmar:

In the kernel config, turn everything in the Video4Linux section on as modules, even if you don't think you need them.

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quink:

is there a way to make audio 'smart'? Basically have a toggle switch, somehow, between surround sound stereo, depending on my mood?

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kslater:

quink – doesn't surround sound imply a receiver of some type? And can't that downmix the 5.1 into 2 channels?

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Zider:

you can always connect to three stereo amps :)

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quink:

well what i mean is, i have a receiver, but i don't always wish to use it.

[18:03:37]

quink:

But when I'm in the mood, i want it as an option i can always switch on.

[18:03:43]

quink:

if that makes sense.

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kslater:

it makes perfect sense and I was thinking about the same thing

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juski:

so use digital :)

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quink:

have some defaults set, like tv recordings/live tv = stereo put through tv speakers, videos default through receiver unless they don't have surround sound data.

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juski:

turn the amp on when you want surround

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kslater:

it helped that I didn't get my ac51 passthru working right

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quink:

juski: right now i get a nasty 'digital' sound through my tv when watching something that has surround sound

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quink:

still working out the bugs on this new system. tons of little problems.

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kslater:

yep – got the same thing quink

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kslater:

altho if you watch HD live tv you might want surround there, no?

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grndslm:

soo...sometime during the release of edgy eft, the ubuntu maintainers decided that they didn't need all the separate 686, k7, etc. kernels in the repository....and now they have obsoleted all kernel images but linux-image-386, which apparently doesn't have ivtv/v4l built-in

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quink:

at least most features work. i think once i find the big bugs the rest will work itself out.

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grndslm:

i'm starting to dislike ubuntu more and more with every release

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juski:

grndslm: but it's 'awesome'

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juski:

it's awesome personified

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** juski pukes **

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kslater:

I think juski has thrown in the towel on ubuntu

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kslater:

as have a lot of others in this forum.

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rudolf:

hi all, i cannot find a way how to get mpeg4+mp3 from nuv container to he avi container without reencoding it.. is it possible?

[18:10:50]

juski:

it's the most dugg distro, therefore has to be the best right?

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grndslm:

heh...i'm thinking about trying gentoo to actually get some use outta my core 2

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juski:

rudolf: you can't

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Dagmar:

Not only that, it's un-possible

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grndslm:

it's getting lamer by the minute

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Dagmar:

You don't know how to build an SMP kernel yourself?

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quink:

well time for work.

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juski:

don't get me wrong – ubunut is great for whacking a cd in & installing a fairly usable desktop environment

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juski:

but if you want to do anything semi-serious with it.. erm..

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grndslm:

so what would i use for something semi-serious?

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juski:

I think it's swings & roundabouts

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juski:

all mythtv installs take a certain amount of poking & prodding to get to do what you want eventually

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Dagmar:

I think I'll make a distro that randomly breaks something in itself every so often

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Dagmar:

Then people would have a reason to brag about uptimes, and windows users would feel right at home

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juski:

Dagmar: I think fedora beat you to it

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grndslm:

yea, it's not worth a change on the mythbox...but i do have to compile my own kernel now!

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qfour20:

i have a question about the "internal" dvd player for myth. does it take the same syntax as mplayer for specifying audio options (alsa SPDIF)?

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Dagmar:

grndslm: Not to sound like a Gentooer, but you are seldom best served by any stock kernel.

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juski:

qfour20: nope

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juski:

qfour20: amazingly it uses global settings you set for the rest of mythtv

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qfour20:

is there a place where the internal player is documented so that I could answer my own question?

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Dagmar:

qfour20: Not even in the source code. Heh

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qfour20:

hmmmm.... b/c recordings in myth play just fine to my receiver, but dvds do not

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juski:

qfour20: wrong ac3 passthru configuration then

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qfour20:

ok... back to digging through .asoundrc stuff then. thanks!

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grndslm:

well, i'm off to recompile the kernel and dream of having a spare machine to install gentoo on

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juski:

diaper, wedgy, and then there'll be foisty

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rudolf:

juski: that's unpleasant...

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juski:

at least there's choice. nobody has to use it :)

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Dagmar:

Swirly Swinehead

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sebrock:

finally going to install the HVR-1300 now wish me luck

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Dagmar:

...and the Felchy Ferret release

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juski:

do I sense a backlash?

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jduggan:

so uhm

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jduggan:

wots the difference between mkinitrd and mkinitramfs

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juski:

or is it more a follow-through ?

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Dagmar:

They're two different tools

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Dagmar:

Ta-da!

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jduggan:

Dagmar: yea, but they both make an initrd right?

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Dagmar:

One makes an initramfs

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gardengnome:

one makes an initramfs

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gardengnome:

heh

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sebrock:

can't remember if I asked this before: MythTV comes with all necessary codecs right?

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Dagmar:

sebrock: Well, that depends

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Dagmar:

It comes with the codecs it needs to play the things it records.

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Dagmar:

As for things your average porno is encoded with, no.

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sebrock:

how about xvid/divx?

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Dagmar:

Nope

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sebrock:

mp3 ?

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Dagmar:

You get to provide that on your own, same as always

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GreyFoxx:

Myth will play those via the libavcodec stuff myth comes with

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sebrock:

ok, any good advice on codecpack?

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GreyFoxx:

If ffmpeg can play it, myth can pretty much play it

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sebrock:

ffmpeg can play divx right?

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sebrock:

FFusion?

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rsdvd:

gardengnome : how goes the fight with minimyth?

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juski:

wtf is FFusion?

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GreyFoxx:

sebrock: Yes, it will play divx/xvid

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jduggan:

/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: add_modules_dep_2_5: modprobe failed

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jduggan:

FATAL: Module raid1 not found.

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sebrock:

ok, is that ffmpeg will do it or FFusion?

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GreyFoxx:

I have no idea what FFusion is

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GreyFoxx:

but the ffmpeg libraries, which myth uses will play xvid and divx files

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GreyFoxx:

I do it all the time

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sebrock:

then I should pay no attention to what Dagmar says :d

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sebrock:

ok good

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juski:

http://aldorandenet.free.fr/codecs/

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jduggan:

hrm

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jduggan:

isntallation of new kernel debians way

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jduggan:

i get that

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jduggan:

suspect?

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juski:

I like the way it's done on gentoo

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juski:

build the kernel. copy it to the boot partition. done

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juski:

I actually miss gentoo now

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sebrock:

when I run dmesg I see that a HVR-1100 is detected...

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sebrock:

when I have a 1300, is this a problem?

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juski:

sebrock: maybe you need newer kernel modules

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juski:

and I dunno if the mpeg2 encoder is even supported yet

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sebrock:

it is

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sebrock:

am I approaching this right then?

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juski:

probably

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sebrock:

thing is, Im followin this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337960

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sebrock:

so I guess I try to install now ...

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juski:

so that covers the digital tuning side

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juski:

no mention of the analogue hardware encoder there

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juski:

is the hvr1300 a hybrid card?

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Ryushin:

juski: Don't know what you mean about installing the kernel on debian. Download from kernel.org, compile, copy bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz-etc., update-grub and you're done.

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juski:

Ryushin: I didn't know either :)

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sebrock:

it is, well I read blackbird should support it halfnhalf

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juski:

all I know is, it was easy on gentoo

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sebrock:

juski, how do you know its only dvb?

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juski:

sebrock: cx88-dvb

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sebrock:

I thought it included analog

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juski:

the letters 'dvb' kind of infer it doesn't

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Ryushin:

Oh, okay. I've been compiling my own kernel since .74. Man, where has the time gone.

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sebrock:

well v4l-dvb <---has got analog in them

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sebrock:

that I know, they just have this name

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juski:

there's analogue, and then there's the hardware encoder to consider

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sebrock:

yes, Im doing some mail corr. with a guy from the list who got blackbird to work analog

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juski:

they'll know over in #v4l

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sebrock:

*analogue

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sebrock:

oh tnx

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juski:

I was following it for a while & my interest tailed off

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sebrock:

gonna reboot

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juski:

I have a leadtek pvr2000 which'd use cx88 modules – lent a hand testing drivers & I must get back to that at some point

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sebrock:

ok dmesg shows me a HVR-1300 now

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sebrock:

how do I check if its working... got tvtime

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sebrock:

scanning now

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Milosch:

hmm, mytharchive stopped working for me...

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Milosch:

gets to the log viewer, then absolutely no output or activity

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sebrock:

juski how can I be sure that its scanning analogue?

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juski:

if you're using tvtime it'd only be scanning analogue

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sebrock:

ok

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sebrock:

well It scans, so thats a good sign?

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juski:

not necessarily

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juski:

means it prolly works as a framegrabber

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sebrock:

what is framegrabber?

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Milosch:

nm, i was missing some python crap for some reason

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juski:

a framegrabber is just a regular ole tv tuner that doesn't have an mpeg encoder

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rudolf:

juski: i have an idea to record to rtjpeg and transcode recording from userjob using nuvexport-divx when it is imposible to get mpg4 from nuv container. is there a way to stop internal transcoding that normally follows the userjob?

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rudolf:

...when it is not possible..

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juski:

you're in control of that

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juski:

if you run a user job on an rtjpeg recording then it won't transcode it to nuv – it'll convert it to whatever the userjob does AFAIK

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rudolf:

according to my observation the recording is being saved already into nuv container

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rudolf:

and if i do understand the docu correctly, userjob is executed first and then main transcoding from rtjpeg in nuv to something i want in nuv

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juski:

there's rtjpeg nuv & mpeg4 nuv

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rudolf:

yes

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juski:

either of which can be turned into avi by nuvexport

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rudolf:

yes, but it needs to be reencoded

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rudolf:

no?

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juski:

no

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rudolf:

that was my first question — how to get the mpge4 from nuv container into avi :)

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rudolf:

i've made a couple of tries with the nuvexport buy haven't suceeded

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sebrock:

is ACPI a good thing to have with MythTV because mine doesnt work by some reason

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sebrock:

have to set it off at boot or it will stall

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juski:

time to go fit a car stereo

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_mike3_:

I just go to Watch TV and when I go to manage recordings it has stuff in there taking up 5 gig

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_mike3_:

why is this

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GreyFoxx:

_mike3_: It's called a PVR

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GreyFoxx:

How would you expect to rewind or pause livetv if you don't record it ?

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GreyFoxx:

You can access those shows by changing your filter in the Watch Recordings screen

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GreyFoxx:

Plus they auto delete after 24 hours OR if space is needed or another recording

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_mike3_:

GreyFoxx: oh ok

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_mike3_:

can I set it so it only records say 10 mins before of shows or something?

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GreyFoxx:

nope

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GreyFoxx:

Each show piece will be from where you start to where either the show ends or where you change thje channel

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GreyFoxx:

if the show ends and a new show starts it will be a new file and the old one is available for expiry

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sebrock:

Ok, I got tvtime running but I get ultrapoor reception onlu

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_mike3_:

GreyFoxx: i see...

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_mike3_:

I just wish i could get TV-out working now

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_mike3_:

Stupid GeForce2 MX200 won't output

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_mike3_:

No idea why

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gardengnome:

have you tried nvtv?

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** gardengnome cries over "DVB CAM did not respond :(" **

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gardengnome:

i'll get this working and if it's the last thing i'll ever do

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GreyFoxx:

_mike3_: What version of the nvidia driver ?

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_mike3_:

nvidia-legacy

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_mike3_:

and no I never tried nvtv. Do I need to install that?

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gardengnome:

yes

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GreyFoxx:

_mike3_: But, what version is that? -legacy doesn't really mean anything but "before the current one" :)

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GreyFoxx:

ahhh right, nvtv is needed for that if it has a supported tv encoder on it

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_mike3_:

no tv encoder.. Just tv-out

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_mike3_:

1.0.7184

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GreyFoxx:

You will need nvtv

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Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v xris

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hads:

Or a new card :)

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sebrock:

did anybody know the answer

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esperegu:

how come that the sound is crapy even when I play music? (it's not very bad but like missing something)

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sebrock:

I got a fairly new mobo, MSI K9NGM2-FID, cant get ACPI to work with it?

[19:49:28]

sebrock:

works in win

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xris:

sebrock: probably depends on which distro you choose

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sebrock:

got ubuntu, had the same problem with FC6

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Moulinex:

Is there gointo be iptv support for mythtv?

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sebrock:

hehe what is Moulinex? I've remember the tv ad somewhat

[19:55:54]

Moulinex:

i think its company that makes blenders etc... :)

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GreyFoxx:

Moulinex: There is already IPTV support, though apparently it's much improved in SVN over 0.20 release

[19:57:50]

Moulinex:

GreyFoxx, I'm interested it because xboxmediacenter cannot receiev multicast stream..

[19:58:41]

GreyFoxx:

in 0.20 there is basic support using the crc ip recording. I tested it recording multicast streams and it worked. It's been totally redone in svn and I havben't retried it there

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Moulinex:

GreyFoxx, Is it possible that backend receive stream and retransmit it to my xbox?

[20:00:35]

GreyFoxx:

well xbmc can be make to play myth recordings

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GreyFoxx:

so record it on the backend, play it on the xbox

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GreyFoxx:

assuming you can get it to record the stream available to you

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Moulinex:

GreyFoxx, It would be nice to have xbox behaving like IPTV box

[20:02:58]

Moulinex:

and backend would make all recordings..

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sebrock:

GreyFoxx, got an issue here, when I start mythtv-setup it says it cant connect to database?

[20:07:51]

GreyFoxx:

And what would you think to check first if an application can't connect to another app ?

[20:08:27]

sebrock:

well, MySQL is up and running

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GreyFoxx:

paste the exact errror message to pastebin.ca

[20:08:53]

sebrock:

Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

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hads:

Well that's difficult

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GreyFoxx:

So, the password in your mysql.txt is either wrong, or you didn't create the mythtv user

[20:09:45]

GreyFoxx:

check your mysql.txt to get the password

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sebrock:

My guide says that the user is created during installation

[20:09:49]

sebrock:

ok

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sebrock:

where is it located?

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GreyFoxx:

either in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt or in some other location whcih varies depending on the mood of the packager that made the package

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sebrock:

k, the setup has to be run by mythtv user I guess, when I check the users I cant see one

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hads:

Yes, it should be run by tht mythtv user if that's who you are running myth as

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sebrock:

hmmm

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sebrock:

well thats what the setup is doing anyway

[20:12:25]

sebrock:

should I just create a mythtv user for the system then??

[20:12:45]

sebrock:

stupid guide says it will be created automaticly in sql and PAM

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hads:

Ug. What guide are you following?

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sebrock:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy . . . tend_Desktop

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_mike3_:

GreyFoxx: Ok so i use nvtv as the driver instead of nvidia?

[20:15:53]

GreyFoxx:

_mike3_: Both actually

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sebrock:

hads, ?

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GreyFoxx:

nvidia is the driver for the card

[20:16:11]

GreyFoxx:

nvtv is a tool to turn on/control the tv chipset on the card

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hads:

sebrock: ?

[20:16:47]

sebrock:

any thoughts?

[20:16:53]

sebrock:

GreyFoxx, ?

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hads:

Did you follow this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_mythtvsetup

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gardengnome:

sebrock: what do you mean when you say "check the users"?

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hads:

which is linked from your other guide

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_mike3_:

GreyFoxx: How do I set that up in xorg.

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sebrock:

I cheched the users my linux system has

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gardengnome:

sebrock: how?

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sebrock:

and its only root and this ine

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sebrock:

one

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_mike3_:

I will be booting the computer up without a monitor. Just the rca cable

[20:18:21]

_mike3_:

so my picture is on the screen.

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GreyFoxx:

_mike3_: It doesn't go into xorg

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_mike3_:

then running x

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sebrock:

"Users and groups" under administration

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GreyFoxx:

it's a tool you runn it

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_mike3_:

GreyFoxx: Oh/??

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_mike3_:

Oh ok...

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GreyFoxx:

You pass it commands on acommandline, or it might take a config file

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GreyFoxx:

then you just need to configure your .xinitrc or window manager to run it when X starts

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gardengnome:

sebrock: ah. it's most likely not the guide that's being stupid ;) 'mythtv' is careated as a system user with an UID < 1000 which is why it won't show up in most "check the user" tools

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sebrock:

ok

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sebrock:

but will I be able to logon as mythtv?

[20:19:51]

sebrock:

and then run the setup

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sebrock:

I think the guide is stupid for not telling that

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sebrock:

gardengnome, so what should I do to get the setup to connect to sql?

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hads:

07:16:37 < hads> Did you follow this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_mythtvsetup

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sebrock:

Y E S

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sebrock:

there is nothing about this issue there, they just roll

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hads:

Are you sure... I see a trouble shooting section.

[20:23:32]

gardengnome:

mythtv-setup must either be launched as the user mythtv, or as a user in the mythtv group.

[20:23:41]

gardengnome:

did you add yourself to the mythtv group?

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sebrock:

I added the user I'm logged in with now, "htpc"

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gardengnome:

sebrock: did you log out and back in?

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sebrock:

tried that too

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gardengnome:

open a terminal and use "id" to find out if you're in the right group

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sebrock:

what should it say?

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gardengnome:

it should tell you are are a member of 'mythtv'

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juski:

gawd when will that girl learn? car stereos from crashed cars are not good buys

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sebrock:

gardengnome, anything?

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gardengnome:

sebrock: do you see "mythtv" somewhere in that line? because i don't. make sure there's a mythtv group on your system. -> grep mythtv /etc/group

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gardengnome:

sebrock: don't rush it, i'm busy as well

[20:31:19]

sebrock:

audio:x:29:htpc,mythtv

[20:31:19]

sebrock:

video:x:44:htpc,mythtv

[20:31:19]

sebrock:

mythtv:x:117:htpc

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sebrock:

this is illogical...

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gardengnome:

sebrock: log out and back in

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sebrock:

k

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gardengnome:

heh. weird. his ident is "sebrock" but the user name on his box is "htpc"

[20:33:24]

hads:

Probably a gui client

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gardengnome:

yikes

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juski:

GAIM.. ftw (for the windows)

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hads:

irssi!

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gardengnome:

irssi++

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juski:

aye :)

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gardengnome:

for windows i'd just use putty.. ;)

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hads:

Being in the mythtv group probably won't help this character as it's just a mysql perms issue

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gardengnome:

hads: *shrug* i wasn't paying attention to his real problem ;)

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hads:

There's a toubleshooting section on that page which sets the mythtv users password – I bet her hasn't followed it.

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hads:

erm. he

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gardengnome:

hads: the passwords is created dynamically

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gardengnome:

err, randomly. it's in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt

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hads:

That's an Ubuntu packaging thing right?

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sebrock:

gardengnome, now it states that the user htpc is a member of mythtv

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sebrock:

still mythtv-setup gives the same output, should I create a user called "mythtv"?

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gardengnome:

hads: ubuntu and debian, yes.

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gardengnome:

sebrock: ok, then your problem can be fixed with the stuff from the troubleshooting section

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Fony_Vaio:

how can i check why selecting play dvd from the myth menu gives a black screen for a few secs then bumps me back to the myth menu? is there a log?

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j2^:

Goodevening!

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Fony_Vaio:

j2^: evenin'

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j2^:

After upgrading my Debian Master backend from 2.6.15 -> 2.6.18 and upgrading IVTV to the required 0.8 tree, mythtv says "0 recorders found" even though IVTV initializes my PVR-500 just fine. Any hints?

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GreyFoxx:

j2^: I found I had t o into -setup, drop my pvr's and re-add them+link them to the video source

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sebrock:

OMg!!! I honestly cant log into my system as mythtv

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j2^:

GreyFoxx: Will try...

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juski:

j2^: you have a backup of your database already right?

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sebrock:

GreyFoxx, damn guide says that I should not create a user called mythtv as this will the the installation take care of

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juski:

oh ubunut strikes again

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sebrock:

sure enough I'm not able to create the user as it already exists

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GreyFoxx:

change the users password

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sebrock:

but I cant login with it

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sebrock:

how?

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juski:

sudo passwd mythtv

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GreyFoxx:

yeah

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juski:

or use the GUI thingy

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sebrock:

mythtv user does not show there

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j2^:

juski: yeap. Well... 18 hours old.. but good enough i suppose.

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sebrock:

k will try again

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j2^:

Hey.... "Found 2 recorders" :)

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j2^:

But.... now my "Encoder 1" and "Encoder 2" is "encoder 4" and "encoder 5"?

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j2^:

Need i really worry about that?

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_mike3_:

GreyFoxx: No luck with NVTV

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_mike3_:

It did squat

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_mike3_:

Going through the settings didn't do a thing on my TV.

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juski:

_mike3_: might be time to splurge some coppers on an fx5200 or so

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GreyFoxx:

_mike3_: Did it say what type of tv encoder you had? It might not support that chip

[21:10:35]

_mike3_:

GreyFoxx: yes it did

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GreyFoxx:

What kind ?

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_mike3_:

but it also was bitching about unreconzie shit in the background

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GreyFoxx:

well, unless you have the skills to debug it further you might be SOL with that card

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Fony_Vaio:

is there a guide to getting dvd's working in myth?

[21:14:32]

Fony_Vaio:

i think it's weird that the law allows us to watch non-protected (ie. illegal copied) dvd's without problem, but won't let us watch official copy protected dvd's...

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jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: except it's likely not legal for you to purchase or own pirated DVDs.

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jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: Anyways it's trivial to get commercial DVDs working in mythtv. You just need to install libdvdcss2

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Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: yes, but then why prevent the makers / distributors of free software from allowing users to play their protected (read: original) dvd's happily?

[21:16:25]

Fony_Vaio:

i already installed libdvdcss2, seems i must have missed something

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daum:

hey all

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jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: Party because they wanted to restrict piracy (even though CSS was an utter failure), and partly because they just have a fetish about control.

[21:17:07]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: what distribution are you using?

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_mike3_:

GreyFoxx: Yah.. I can't seem to get the info on the cihpset now

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gnome42:

daum: Which version are you using?

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Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: very silly, imho.

[21:17:18]

_mike3_:

It was something chico or some crap

[21:17:22]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: knoppmyth, latest release.

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juski:

Fony_Vaio: that's the DVD consortiums for ya

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juski:

and it's worse with the new formats

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daum:

20_p121172

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daum:

gnome42, it was working before

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daum:

sec gonna try restarting backend

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jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: you'll need libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3

[21:18:18]

Fony_Vaio:

juski: i think they are just making piracy more tempting for ppl.. it's sad, i wonder why i bother spending so much hard earned cash just to have to piss ball around trying to get around the drm to make the damn things simply play.

[21:18:42]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: thanks, i'll give it a try now

[21:18:44]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: can you play it in xine/mplayer directly?

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gnome42:

daum: Oh, ok. It's not the problem I was thinking of then :)

[21:19:01]

juski:

yeah one does have to question the motivation behind making everybody feel like the bad guy instead of just going after the real pirates harder

[21:19:01]

daum:

gnome42, hrm still no luck

[21:19:03]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: i'll try

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jasoncohen01:

I believe mythdvd just uses mplayer

[21:19:37]

daum:

anyone else have any idea why my mythtv for some reason just isn't allowing me to record anything?

[21:19:53]

daum:

i hda set up a bunch of programs to record now it shows none in upcoming recordings, and it won't allow me to assign any new recordings

[21:20:11]

gnome42:

daum: system time is accurate?

[21:20:19]

daum:

gnome42, 4:19pm

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gnome42:

k

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Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: i get an error in mplayer directly, seems like it's looking in the wrong place for the dvd... although it does spin up?

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jasoncohen01:

daum: go into the listings

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daum:

i really need to get this working soon tonight lotsa man vs wild

[21:21:56]

daum:

jasoncohen01, ok there

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gnome42:

daum: What does it say in the 'upcoming recordings' screen in the frontend for the shows that it didn't record?

[21:22:15]

jasoncohen01:

daum: have you run mythfilldatabase?

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daum:

jasoncohen01, yes i ran it a while ago also now it should be doing it itself every day

[21:22:33]

daum:

gnome42, there are none

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jasoncohen01:

daum: that means there's nothing scheduled to record

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Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: going to reboot and see if it helps.

[21:23:01]

jasoncohen01:

daum: did you see complete listings?

[21:23:07]

daum:

jasoncohen01, yes but i scheduled something and then i look at it and it says not recording

[21:23:18]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: try xine, totem etc.

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hads:

Rebooting is not usually a solution to anything

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jasoncohen01:

that's a windows fix

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Fony_Vaio:

lol... yeah, i guess i'm still in windows mode, sorry.

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daum:

jasoncohen01, slast mythfilldatabase was 02-01–2007

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jasoncohen01:

try using another problem like totem or xine

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jasoncohen01:

*program

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jasoncohen01:

daum: what does the backend show for your tuners? are they active?

[21:24:31]

daum:

in system status?

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jasoncohen01:

daum: you can check in system status page

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jasoncohen01:

or in mythweb

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daum:

Tuner 1 is not recording.

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Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: works in xine, i'll look closer into mplayer issue

[21:25:29]

daum:

jasoncohen01, what is weird is it is talking with the backend for sure since my previously recorded is showing and wht not

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jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: i didn't think it was libdvdcss

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KaZeR:

anyone here has some experience with lirc? i recorded my remote signals with a receiver from irblaster, but i can't send them back (with a sender from irblaster too)

[21:26:03]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: I believe you can use xine with mythdvd

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KaZeR:

i know this could be a little off topic, but it's for my mthtv box :)

[21:26:18]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: it's set to matrox video renderer, by the looks of it. i think i need xv or xvmc for my nvidia card.

[21:26:21]

jasoncohen01:

daum: does livetv work?

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daum:

jasoncohen01, yup

[21:26:33]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: you want xv probably

[21:26:56]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: yup, perfect :D:D:D:D:

[21:27:00]

jasoncohen01:

daum: and if you hit record while playing livetv?

[21:27:07]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: now try mythdvd

[21:27:08]

daum:

let me ttry

[21:27:28]

jasoncohen01:

daum: how many tuners to do you have?

[21:27:32]

daum:

jasoncohen01, seems that paused laive tv works

[21:27:33]

daum:

jasoncohen01, 1

[21:28:05]

daum:

hrm but when i do pause live tv should it go to my media libray?

[21:28:11]

jasoncohen01:

daum: so you have complete and accurate tv info, but when you select something to record nothing shows up in upcoming recordings?

[21:28:12]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: it seems a tad jumpy, going to play a little then try myth agian

[21:28:21]

daum:

jasoncohen01, yup

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jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: ok

[21:29:10]

jasoncohen01:

daum: run "mythfilldatabase" in terminal. After it's done restart mythbackend

[21:29:45]

jasoncohen01:

daum: also, what was the status of the tuner in system status?

[21:29:52]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: yay, working! :D thanks for the tip. Now time to settle down with the mrs for some lotr. later

[21:30:12]

daum:

jasoncohen01, sec gonna run mythfilldatabase

[21:30:12]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: i hope you have the extended edition

[21:30:39]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: next time don't be so quick to blame the DRM. DeCSS has been working w/o a hitch for many, many years now.

[21:30:57]

Fooker:

Is there a place to set recording options for a series? I changed the recording options on one of the shows in the series, and I thought it would change them all, but it didn't.

[21:30:58]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: yah, although i didn't have that lib you told me to install...

[21:31:11]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: all you normally need it libdvdcss2

[21:31:44]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: the other one is necessary to compile mythdvd i think.

[21:31:44]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: tbh all the issues i've had the last few days since starting my myth journey have been my fault. lol

[21:31:55]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: heh, that's usually the way it goes.

[21:32:01]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: seems slightly jerky...

[21:32:16]

jasoncohen01:

Fooker: you mean you set recording options for a specific episode?

[21:32:28]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: in mplayer or xine?

[21:32:39]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: what are your pc specs

[21:32:46]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: mplayer

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jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: that's odd. You can have it show framerate in xine. Is the disk scratched?

[21:33:50]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: ok, it's not the PC

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Fooker:

jasoncohen01: I thought when you edited the options for the rule "recording all showings on all channels" it would change them all.

[21:34:09]

daum:

jasoncohen01, hrm still no luck

[21:34:13]

jasoncohen01:

Fooker: "Record at any time on any channel."?

[21:34:22]

jasoncohen01:

sorry, i'm thinking of the mythweb setting

[21:35:19]

daum:

jasoncohen01, it for some reason won't record it

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Fooker:

I think I may have found the problem.... does myth only run the transcode job if comm flagger found breaks?

[21:35:43]

jasoncohen01:

daum: mythfilldatabase ran ok?

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daum:

yea

[21:35:51]

daum:

2007-02–02 16:31:55.321 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5)

[21:35:51]

daum:

2007-02–02 16:31:55.322 Using protocol version 31

[21:35:51]

daum:

2007-02–02 16:31:55.324 mythfilldatabase run complete.

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jasoncohen01:

daum: what does it say when you set it to record?

[21:36:24]

jasoncohen01:

daum: do you have mythweb? it may be easier to see what's going on from there.

[21:36:39]

daum:

i just was using the guide to do it..i do just record this one time(on a show i've nver recorded) and it says not recording

[21:36:41]

daum:

jasoncohen01, i do no

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daum:

t

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jasoncohen01:

Fooker: yeah, i think comm flagging is first

[21:37:06]

daum:

jasoncohen01, working on getting mythweb installed and compiled now

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Fooker:

jasoncohen01: But if comm flagging finds 0 breaks, then does transcode not run?

[21:37:40]

jasoncohen01:

daum: i would think that as long as comm flagging completed it would, but i'm not sure

[21:37:42]

daum:

jasoncohen01, see what is weird is i'm looking at the mysql

[21:38:00]

daum:

and it has in the table record for today my man vs wild

[21:38:15]

daum:

whichi s later today

[21:38:20]

daum:

but still in mythtv it shows nothing as to record

[21:40:10]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: maybe i was being too hasty.. mplayer only seems to jerk noticably on the menu's, although there is still something not exactly right about the motion in the main title

[21:40:54]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: i've never used mplayer with menus. I usually use it because it plays the title directly. Also, menu support in mplayer is relatively new.

[21:41:44]

daum:

jasoncohen01, hrm ugh this is annoying i wonder why all a sudden this is happening

[21:41:50]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: if you go into mythdvd settings, you'll see it just uses mplayer with a few command line options. you can set it to use xine, if that works better for you. However.

[21:42:09]

hads:

or Internal

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jasoncohen01:

daum: so, this just started?

[21:42:21]

jasoncohen01:

hads: oh, there's an internal player now?

[21:42:35]

hads:

> 0.20 there is

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daum:

jasoncohen01, yeah

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daum:

jasoncohen01, i have no idea when

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daum:

jasoncohen01, last night i did a re-record then my machine froze over night this morning since that it has been dead

[21:43:28]

Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: i might have to do that... there's something a little disconcerting about the motion in the main movie with mplayer. xine is definitely better, imo.

[21:43:29]

jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: try using the internal dvd player then.

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hads:

Fony_Vaio: Tried mysqlcheck?

[21:44:04]

daum:

jasoncohen01, any ideas?

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hads:

Erm, I mean daum

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daum:

hads, nope

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hads:

If your backend locked up it's worth running mysqlcheck to check the tables in the db

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Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: ah, perfect. it's fine in myth

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daum:

hads do i do mysqlcheck -A -uroot?

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jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: good

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Fony_Vaio:

jasoncohen01: thanks again, off to use this thing finally :D

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jasoncohen01:

Fony_Vaio: enjoy

[21:45:48]

hads:

if you have no root password then `mysqlcheck -u root mythconverg` will do it

[21:46:01]

daum:

hads, weird seems that they are all ok

[21:46:06]

daum:

wait

[21:46:07]

daum:

no

[21:46:16]

daum:

1 client is using or hasn't closed the table in the mythconverg

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jasoncohen01:

daum: well, that would explain it

[21:46:53]

daum:

hrm reran it now it seems to be right

[21:47:18]

jasoncohen01:

no errors?

[21:47:25]

daum:

jasoncohen01, nope

[21:47:33]

daum:

hrm

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daum:

now my tv guide is empty

[21:47:50]

daum:

running filldatabase

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jasoncohen01:

daum: maybe mythbackend left the connection open when it crashed and it wasn't able to correctly acccess the DB after that?

[21:49:01]

daum:

jasoncohen01, maybe well see..i had to do a hard reboot this morning

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daum:

grrr

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daum:

this is annoying

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daum:

now my tvguide is gone

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jasoncohen01:

daum: that's actually good- it would explain why it can't record

[21:50:28]

daum:

and my but i just rand mythfilldatabase

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jasoncohen01:

daum: is mythbackend still running?

[21:50:46]

daum:

oh hrm

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jasoncohen01:

did you turn off the backend before doing the check?

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daum:

sec

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jasoncohen01:

i think you're supposed to

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daum:

jasoncohen01, i did

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hads:

Na, you can run mysqlcheck with clients active

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jasoncohen01:

hads: oh, good to know

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hads:

But it won't hurt as you probably should restart the backend afterwards just to be sure

[21:52:02]

hads:

(if something was broken that is)

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hads:

:)

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jasoncohen01:

daum: i bet it'll work after it updates.

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hads:

Don't think so

[21:57:27]

daum:

well i'm still registering blank on the frontend

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** daum cries **

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jasoncohen01:

daum: did you try restarting the backend?

[21:58:01]

jasoncohen01:

do you have any other frontends connected?

[21:58:21]

daum:

nope

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daum:

let me see what happens if ij ust simplely restart

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daum:

simply

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hads:

Heh people and their bloody rebooting

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** briand yawns. **

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jasoncohen01:

briand: did you previously live in central NJ?

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briand:

driven thru it, but no. upstate new york

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jasoncohen01:

briand: Ah, ok. I must be confusing you with someone else. Someone from #mythtv-users lived in NJ and gave me a TV card before he moved last year. I thought it was you.

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jasoncohen01:

We lived in the same town.

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daum:

nooopo

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daum:

hrm

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daum:

why in the world wouldn't this be working all a sudden

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daum:

ly

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jasoncohen01:

still no tv data?

[22:03:29]

daum:

yup

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jasoncohen01:

daum: but no reason why?

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daum:

i have no idea

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jasoncohen01:

also check zap2it to make sure nothing changed.

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daum:

i'm looking at the mysql tables for it and it has the program guide

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daum:

jasoncohen01, it shouldn't have anything to do with recently installing apache woudl it?

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hads:

I think this has been covered, but your date and timezone are correct right?

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daum:

yup feb 2, 506 pm, i use ntpdate

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hads:

OK, just checking

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daum:

apache shouldn't have anything to do with this right?

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hads:

Na

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daum:

70gigs free

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SlicerDicer-:

anybody familiar with this?

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daum:

jasoncohen01, logged into zap2it

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daum:

su

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daum:

wrong place

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daum:

seems it is right in mythtv-setup

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daum:

jasoncohen01, weird mythfilldatabase ran but did not insert an.... it says

[22:18:00]

jasoncohen01:

daum: when you logged into zap2it, did it show your channels and the correct info?

[22:18:06]

daum:

yea

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jasoncohen01:

and that it is not expired

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daum:

yup

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hads:

mysqlcheck should have done that

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daum:

ooo

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daum:

hrm

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daum:

that is weird

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hads:

REPAIR TABLE oldrecorded;

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daum:

FOR THE WIN!

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daum:

=0

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daum:

it all works!

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daum:

hads you rock

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daum:

weird that mysqlcheck didnt' catch it though

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hads:

Oh, that's because I forgot an option :/

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hads:

--auto-repair

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hads:

Sorry

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daum:

but it reported it as ok

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hads:

Strange. But it's all fixed now?

[22:26:59]

daum:

yup

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daum:

somehow everything related to that one table

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hads:

Cool.

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hads:

Yeah, corrupt databases do bad things in general.

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daum:

yup

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daum:

so happy that i tried to redo that find program then it crashed

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daum:

so i reopened it in a terminal and it said that table was broke

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daum:

brb

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jasoncohen01:

daum: cool, so now it works

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juski:

ffs. friend of ours has just phoned to say some kids have put her house windows out. police were called an hour ago & still no sign of them. what really annoys me is that bloody big brother on telly was made a fuss of over some *words* spoken out of turn, yet a woman & her coloured family are victimised & nothing gets done

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daum:

yup

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juski:

these kids btw are like 10 years old

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juski:

I know it's not right but maybe 'sorting' their parents out would help

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Dibblah:

It's public outrage vs private indifference. Guess which one wins?

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juski:

yup

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juski:

we've lent them money so they can call out an emergency glazier to board their windows because their insurance doesn't cover costs for out of hours work. that's bad

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williammanda:

anyone here on comcast in chattanooga tn?

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williammanda:

looking for qam info for fox 61

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juski:

MoRpHeUz: depends what kind of tuner you use

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juski:

and the recording format you use, if encoding in software

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MoRpHeUz:

is there any way ?

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juski:

MoRpHeUz: nope

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juski:

you can transcode recordings to mpeg4 when they've done recording, but that's about it

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juski:

what's the big deal about needing mpeg4 anyway?

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juski:

if you're planning to stream to outside your house, you'd better look at mythstream tv unless you have a *very* fast upload pipe

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juski:

oops mythstreamtv

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MoRpHeUz:

hhmm

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MoRpHeUz:

is mythstreamtv inside mythtv ?

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juski:

nope

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juski:

only works for existing recordings too – not live tv

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juski:

maybe you'd have more luck with VLC

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Tuomaz_:

Where do I set which channel to start on?

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juski:

Tuomaz_: mythtv-setup, in 'input connections' IIRC

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Tuomaz_:

juski: thanks

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MoRpHeUz:

juski: thanks! =)

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grndslm:

apparently the ivtv module needs the tveeprom module, which i haven't loaded...

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grndslm:

do i need to build tveeprom or download it from somewhere else?

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grndslm:

i don't get it

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Milosch:

that one should be in the kernel already

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williammanda:

milo....got my res 1366*768 setup

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Mazus:

would anyone be able to help with mythstreamtv? i get this vlc error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3888/plain/

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kranky:

im having some troubles getting xvmc working. i have a pundit-r and I purchased a PCI nvidia 5200fx. xdpyinfo shows that it has motioncompensation. i setup everything per the wiki. im running mythfrontend -v important,general,playback (ive tried -v all) and I dont even see that its trying to use xvmc

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kranky:

this is on ubuntu edgy, with mythtv packages, that have xvmc support, confirmed with ldd

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Ediehow:

hi, please help. volume changes in myth make no different anymore

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