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| [00:03:03] | changlinn: | morning all |
| [00:04:23] | changlinn: | anyone seen this? Starting MythTV server: mythbackendstart-stop-daemon: Unable to set initgroups() with gid 1000 (Operation not permitted) |
| [00:06:55] | changlinn: | my bad I thought I had root when I didn't |
| [00:10:12] | GreyFoxx: | grrr, stupid cut n pase |
| [00:10:16] | GreyFoxx: | paste even |
| [00:11:46] | ShiftyPowers: | guys anyone know of suggestions of how to setup a jukebox type system? |
| [00:11:49] | ShiftyPowers: | i have jinzora |
| [00:11:57] | ShiftyPowers: | but not sure if something can be done with mythweb |
| [00:18:29] | JoeyJoeJo: | changlinn: sounds like your mythbackend process isn't running |
| [00:18:39] | changlinn: | ahh doing a /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start says that it is already running, but ps-e says it isn't |
| [00:18:46] | JoeyJoeJo: | try the command "ps aux | grep mythbackend" |
| [00:18:52] | JoeyJoeJo: | without quote |
| [00:18:52] | JoeyJoeJo: | s |
| [00:19:05] | JoeyJoeJo: | that will tell you if mythbackend is running |
| [00:19:28] | changlinn: | yeah I did ps -e|grep myth nothing there |
| [00:20:27] | JoeyJoeJo: | there's your problem.. for some reason your init script isn't launching mythbackend.. maybe you can look in /var/log for a log file |
| [00:22:55] | tha_toadman: | can someone tell me – i'm considering this for a front end and it has a CF reader on the front...would you be able to boot from CF to linux with it?? |
| [00:23:09] | changlinn: | nah I just tried running mythbackend and it told me the ip of the backend was set wrong |
| [00:23:27] | ** purserj sighs, you can always tell when the weathers clearing up, our digital reception goes to pot ** | |
| [00:24:15] | Zider: | tha_toadman: if the bios can find it as a bootable device, sure.. |
| [00:24:30] | Zider: | tha_toadman: asus is usually good at that |
| [00:24:33] | tha_toadman: | hmm...interesting :-) |
| [00:24:52] | tha_toadman: | that sounds like a winner then |
| [00:25:58] | Zider: | why would you wanna boot from a CF? |
| [00:26:42] | tha_toadman: | to make it diskless |
| [00:27:00] | tha_toadman: | it'd be strictly a frontend machine with a firefly mini remote is all |
| [00:27:15] | Zider: | read-only disk I hope :P |
| [00:27:35] | tha_toadman: | yeah – why's that – livetv would kill the card? |
| [00:27:46] | tha_toadman: | read/writes...and all |
| [00:27:59] | Zider: | livetv would definitely wear out any flash media fast with all those writes |
| [00:28:06] | tha_toadman: | gotcha |
| [00:28:08] | Zider: | it has limited writes |
| [00:28:19] | tha_toadman: | well – scratch that then :-P |
| [00:28:27] | Zider: | you COULD put that in RAM ofcourse.. but, then you would need a lot of RAM :) |
| [00:28:47] | tha_toadman: | what would you recommend for size of RAM |
| [00:28:53] | tha_toadman: | gig? |
| [00:29:04] | Zider: | the same as your intended boot flash media |
| [00:29:17] | tha_toadman: | ok |
| [00:29:39] | tha_toadman: | ahhh :-) |
| [00:30:20] | tha_toadman: | can you limit the size of ram that livetv could use |
| [00:30:51] | Zider: | that would be the same as limiting how much disk space it would use, and I have no idea |
| [00:30:58] | tha_toadman: | ok |
| [00:31:18] | tha_toadman: | well it's a start though – i like that idea but i'm sure a simple HD would be MUCH easier |
| [00:31:30] | Zider: | yeah |
| [00:31:36] | Zider: | 2,5" is really silent |
| [00:31:41] | GreyFoxx: | well.... This afrontend or a backend you are talking about ? |
| [00:31:49] | tha_toadman: | front |
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| [00:32:03] | GreyFoxx: | then livetv would never touch the CF card |
| [00:32:10] | GreyFoxx: | that is all stored on the backend |
| [00:32:12] | Zider: | ah right, no backend |
| [00:32:20] | tha_toadman: | grey: remember the 'paperweights' i mentioned yesterday? lol – replacing those |
| [00:32:36] | tha_toadman: | oh i have a backend |
| [00:32:53] | Zider: | I mean, no backend running on this system |
| [00:33:00] | tha_toadman: | 1.3 athlon w/ 512 RAM and 2 HD's – 250 primary and a 120 secondary |
| [00:33:16] | tha_toadman: | sorry – i should have mentioned that earlier :-/ |
| [00:33:28] | Zider: | I think you did, I just missed it |
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| [00:33:58] | Zider: | well, I'm off to bed while I can still see it ;) |
| [00:34:03] | Zider: | *gone* |
| [00:34:17] | tha_toadman: | thanks zider – night |
| [00:37:02] | changlinn: | can the watch videos plugin in myth actually watch divx, xvid etc, mplayer can play them.... |
| [00:38:14] | jams: | changlinn- you can setup mythvideo to use mythplayer, so the answer is yes |
| [00:38:58] | changlinn: | hmm, ah I found the issue, had a brainfart... I hadn't installed mplayer yet |
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| [01:14:36] | qwehnce: | installing mythtv for the first time on debian etch, when i start the frontend, i get kicked back to the command line... any ideas? |
| [01:16:56] | psofa: | anyone here using the es_laguiatv grabber? |
| [01:17:14] | psofa: | the detailed info doesnt work :( |
| [01:17:28] | changlinn: | qwehnce: if you start it from console does it tell you anything in the console? |
| [01:18:27] | qwehnce: | from console, i get unable to start x server, from xterm, i get i bunch of scrolling errors i am unable tor ead |
| [01:18:31] | qwehnce: | to read* |
| [01:19:22] | qwehnce: | i think its because i dont have an improperly setup mysql but there is no good advice in actually setting one up |
| [01:19:32] | qwehnce: | *because i have |
| [01:19:32] | H00chster: | cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log and all the X info is in there |
| [01:19:34] | Mixx`: | did you run mythsetup? |
| [01:19:45] | H00chster: | you have X running qwehnce |
| [01:19:49] | qwehnce: | i installed on debian, it auto runs. |
| [01:19:53] | riksta: | mixx he needs to get X working for starters |
| [01:19:55] | qwehnce: | i am in xfce4 right now. |
| [01:19:58] | riksta: | oh |
| [01:19:59] | H00chster: | k, well from what u stated it wasn't |
| [01:20:01] | H00chster: | so ok |
| [01:20:12] | H00chster: | edit ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [01:20:21] | H00chster: | and update to where your database is for the backend |
| [01:20:24] | qwehnce: | mythfrontend cant startx |
| [01:20:33] | H00chster: | if it is on the same server then put it to localhost if you want |
| [01:20:48] | H00chster: | mythfrontend should start after x, so it shouldn't be starting x for you |
| [01:21:05] | H00chster: | you can add it to .xsession to start up once x is going though |
| [01:21:42] | H00chster: | why do you think you don't have sql setup right? there is tons of info on it at mythtv.org |
| [01:21:56] | H00chster: | if you got your backend going then most likely sql is setup |
| [01:22:16] | H00chster: | if you are trying to do a remote frontend, then you need to make sure you followed the info on allowing your network access |
| [01:22:32] | H00chster: | also you need to edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and comment out the bind-address 127.0.0.1 |
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| [01:30:07] | qwehnce: | i have removed mysql in reinstalled it through apt in an attempt to start over |
| [01:30:37] | qwehnce: | now again following the mythtv.org wiki, and i still receieve the most basic of errors |
| [01:30:47] | qwehnce: | when trying to even change the password |
| [01:31:37] | changlinn: | do the mythtv-setup after reinstalling mysql |
| [01:31:45] | H00chster: | without knowing your errors we can't help ya much |
| [01:31:45] | qwehnce: | even trying to start mysql results in failure. |
| [01:32:02] | qwehnce: | /etc/init.d/mysql start Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! |
| [01:32:15] | changlinn: | hey if you use the ir-kbd-gpio module for your remote can you change what keys do what? |
| [01:32:37] | H00chster: | qwehnce is this mysql only used for myth and you are just now setting up? |
| [01:32:52] | changlinn: | qwehnce: did you purge config files when you removed it? |
| [01:33:05] | H00chster: | changlinn I assume you are using lirc? if so then ya you can tell the lircrc what keys do what, and even then change them within myth itself |
| [01:33:07] | qwehnce: | i have never used mysql, its only going to be using for myth |
| [01:33:21] | qwehnce: | yeah, i using xchat |
| [01:33:46] | changlinn: | H00chster: nah supposedly don't need lirc if that module is installed, and it is and works, except the channel buttons don't work in myth |
| [01:33:48] | qwehnce: | where are the config files? |
| [01:34:34] | H00chster: | try apt-get --purge remove mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common mysql-server-5.0 and try again |
| [01:35:08] | H00chster: | changlinn I am not a remote expert by any means but all a module is, is drivers, something has to tell the drivers what to do, either lirc, or something |
| [01:36:07] | H00chster: | qwehnce I would just do apt-get install mysql-server after that |
| [01:36:13] | H00chster: | also would do apt-get build-dep mythtv |
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| [01:36:46] | changlinn: | H00chster: yeah I think that module is an ir keyboard driver, hence no need for lirc |
| [01:37:23] | williammanda: | here is the link for setting up your modeline ( i have 1360*768).... |
| [01:37:25] | changlinn: | so I guess I just need to detect what keypress sends and then make a keymap for this interface dev, but never done that |
| [01:37:36] | H00chster: | changlinn no clue then man, sorry, like I said a module is a module, all that is, is a driver. Something else has to tell that driver what to do. That is what lirc is for usually but maybe that does it differently somehow |
| [01:37:39] | williammanda: | http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl |
| [01:38:28] | H00chster: | You will have to sign up qwehnce and I am not an expert by any means but check out http://www.hoochvdr.info the MythTV section I have kept track of my basic notes, might help ya |
| [01:38:44] | williammanda: | milosch...you around? |
| [01:39:11] | williammanda: | riksta...here? |
| [01:39:14] | kermitthefrog918: | Hey, all my upcoming recordings disappeared, and the logs have said nothing about it... |
| [01:40:30] | kormoc: | myth decided you needed a break to go outside. it's due to federal bill #9552c, keep the geeks from killing themselves |
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| [01:42:18] | H00chster: | lmao |
| [01:42:31] | H00chster: | kermitthefrog918 make sure that the backend is still running |
| [01:42:38] | H00chster: | or you haven't ran out of space and it is frozen heh |
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| [01:45:21] | kermitthefrog918: | sorry, I asked a question then my box froze on me... |
| [01:45:40] | kermitthefrog918: | can anybody help me figure out why all my scheduled recordings aren't in effect? |
| [01:46:21] | onewheelskyward: | Could it be a time zone/clock sync issue? Do they show up in your scheduled recordings list? |
| [01:47:02] | kormoc: | onewheelskyward, <kermitthefrog918> Hey, all my upcoming recordings disappeared, and the logs have said nothing about it... |
| [01:47:15] | kormoc: | onewheelskyward, so no, they're not in the upcomming list |
| [01:47:24] | kermitthefrog918: | under mythweb, they all show up under Recording Schedules, and I can browse the listings as well... |
| [01:47:28] | onewheelskyward: | woo, that's a neat trick. |
| [01:47:33] | kermitthefrog918: | i tried scheduling a new recording and it didnt show up |
| [01:47:41] | onewheelskyward: | And if you try to re-schedule them? Ah gotchya. |
| [01:47:43] | kormoc: | kermitthefrog918, did you try restarting the backend? |
| [01:47:54] | kermitthefrog918: | yeah... restarted the backend, mysql, the whole machine... |
| [01:48:13] | GreyFoxx: | And .... you have programming data right? Your zap2it account didn't expire and you ran out of data ?:) |
| [01:48:30] | kermitthefrog918: | nope, i ran a mythfilldatabase and nothing changed |
| [01:48:41] | GreyFoxx: | In mythweb, go to Listings |
| [01:48:51] | GreyFoxx: | do you see shows listed ? |
| [01:48:51] | kermitthefrog918: | its all there |
| [01:49:07] | GreyFoxx: | and change the date to tomorrow or some other time oyu know a recording is suppose to happen |
| [01:49:19] | kermitthefrog918: | Backend Status doesnt say anything special... |
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| [01:49:25] | kermitthefrog918: | I have recordings going all day usually... (Seinfeld) |
| [01:50:06] | GreyFoxx: | Are you logging the backends output? See what it says after being restarted? Normally it will mention how many shows are scheduled |
| [01:50:18] | GreyFoxx: | or run mythbackend --printsched frm the commandline |
| [01:50:19] | kormoc: | kermitthefrog918, under backend status, what does it say next to DataDirect Status? |
| [01:50:41] | kermitthefrog918: | DataDirect Status: Your subscription expires on 03/06/07 04:03:37 |
| [01:50:47] | kormoc: | kk |
| [01:51:13] | kermitthefrog918: | in mythfrontend, under upcoming recordings, it says nothing is scheduled |
| [01:51:31] | GreyFoxx: | "or run mythbackend --printsched frm the commandline" |
| [01:51:33] | kermitthefrog918: | GreyFoxx: nothing |
| [01:51:36] | GreyFoxx: | ok |
| [01:51:48] | GreyFoxx: | and what does your backend log say after restarting it ? |
| [01:52:54] | GreyFoxx: | Normally there is a line similar to "Scheduled 150 items in 1.5 = 0.00 match + 1.46 place" |
| [01:53:39] | kermitthefrog918: | nothing special in the lgos |
| [01:53:55] | GreyFoxx: | Look specifically for a line like I said |
| [01:53:59] | kermitthefrog918: | all it outputs is "running as slave backend |
| [01:54:09] | GreyFoxx: | oh |
| [01:54:15] | GreyFoxx: | ... do you have more than 1 backend? |
| [01:54:40] | kermitthefrog918: | no... but i was playing with knoppmyth livecd the other day... that could have messed it up |
| [01:54:52] | GreyFoxx: | It sounds like it |
| [01:55:00] | kermitthefrog918: | how can I reset it to master backend? |
| [01:55:17] | GreyFoxx: | from the backend run mythtv-setup and reset the backendIP/masterip and such |
| [01:57:49] | kermitthefrog918: | k.. it was set to 127.0.0.1 in one place and my local network ip in the otehr... i set them both to network ip |
| [01:57:51] | kermitthefrog918: | restarting.. |
| [01:58:12] | kermitthefrog918: | yay fixed it |
| [01:58:19] | riksta: | yeah, that happened to me too |
| [01:58:22] | riksta: | kermitthefrog918, |
| [01:58:30] | onewheelskyward: | Nice detective work, Foxx. |
| [01:58:43] | kermitthefrog918: | Thanks a lot guys |
| [01:58:52] | riksta: | also, one time.....my recordings table was marked as crashed...that took me a while |
| [02:00:06] | Dibblah: | ... At band camp? |
| [02:00:11] | riksta: | hah |
| [02:01:02] | onewheelskyward: | So, I ordered an IR blaster from irblaster.info, which came in the mail today. I'm excited! I unpack the serial version of the device because I read the USB version has some support issues. I went to plug it into the back of my box, and...where's the COM port? |
| [02:01:24] | riksta: | haha! oops!! |
| [02:01:32] | Loto: | lmao |
| [02:01:36] | onewheelskyward: | I completely forgot that the COM port is the latest thing they've stopped including on Mini-ATX boards. |
| [02:01:43] | onewheelskyward: | Neither of my machines have them. |
| [02:01:45] | Loto: | often there is a header on the board |
| [02:01:55] | riksta: | make a serial->usb adaptor |
| [02:01:57] | riksta: | ;) |
| [02:02:03] | Loto: | you may need to salvage an old-school back plate to connect it |
| [02:02:05] | onewheelskyward: | Yeah. hehe |
| [02:02:23] | onewheelskyward: | I may have an old com port header laying around, but I'm not sure my board has one. I'll check the docs. |
| [02:02:25] | riksta: | the irony ;) |
| [02:02:39] | onewheelskyward: | Any reason why I couldn't get a DB25-DB9 converter and run it from the parallel port? |
| [02:02:50] | Loto: | parallel != com |
| [02:02:51] | Dibblah: | Back plate? What a novel idea. |
| [02:02:58] | Loto: | http://www.dueltek.com.au/store/Catalogue/Small/33136.gif is what im speaking about |
| [02:03:13] | Dibblah: | Loto: Won't work. |
| [02:03:26] | Dibblah: | Errr... |
| [02:03:28] | onewheelskyward: | Yeah I might have one of those but I'm not sure my board has a header. I'll check it out, thanks. |
| [02:03:34] | Dibblah: | onewheelskyward: Won't work, even :) |
| [02:03:36] | williammanda: | riksta.....here is a link for computing a modeline... |
| [02:03:48] | williammanda: | http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl |
| [02:03:53] | Loto: | why do you say that Dibblah? |
| [02:03:54] | riksta: | williammanda ....err thanks ? |
| [02:04:09] | williammanda: | i got mine working using it |
| [02:04:12] | Dibblah: | onewheelskyward: Be aware that some ports are also wired 'differently'. |
| [02:04:34] | onewheelskyward: | Dibblah: Some COM ports? |
| [02:04:40] | Loto: | some com port headers |
| [02:04:46] | riksta: | williammanda, i have had my stuff working for years ;) but thanks |
| [02:04:47] | Dibblah: | Loto: I was meaning the DB25 -> DB9 converter wouldn't work. |
| [02:04:47] | Loto: | on new boards are not the 'old' standard |
| [02:04:51] | onewheelskyward: | Loto: Aah right on. |
| [02:04:53] | Loto: | ah |
| [02:05:05] | Loto: | but the one I used it for was standard |
| [02:05:09] | Loto: | i think it was a DFI board |
| [02:05:32] | williammanda: | riksta.....can i use a channels.conf file to tune in channels? |
| [02:05:36] | onewheelskyward: | I have a Gigabyte, so no help there. |
| [02:05:44] | williammanda: | without scanning? |
| [02:05:47] | riksta: | williammanda, is that DVB? |
| [02:05:58] | Dibblah: | williammanda: I wouldn't bother. Scanning is more likely to work reliably. |
| [02:05:58] | williammanda: | yes |
| [02:06:05] | riksta: | williammanda, there is some contrib script i believe that will parse the channels.conf and insert into the db |
| [02:06:22] | Dibblah: | riksta: It's included in mythtv-setup. |
| [02:06:32] | riksta: | Dibblah, i know :) |
| [02:06:36] | williammanda: | i can't find where to copy it to.... |
| [02:06:41] | Dibblah: | 'Import channels.conf' |
| [02:06:47] | riksta: | oh wait, sorry my bad |
| [02:06:52] | riksta: | i thought you meant the scanner |
| [02:06:59] | riksta: | Dibblah, cool |
| [02:07:01] | williammanda: | i used locate but found a bunch of examples....would this be the place to put it? |
| [02:07:06] | Dibblah: | But still, I wouldn't do it. |
| [02:07:14] | riksta: | williammanda, listen to Dibblah |
| [02:07:23] | riksta: | williammanda, why cant you do an auto scan |
| [02:07:41] | williammanda: | not getting anything off of cable.... |
| [02:07:48] | Dibblah: | Because he's searching cable for free porn. |
| [02:07:52] | williammanda: | but i do using windows |
| [02:07:57] | Dibblah: | ;) |
| [02:07:59] | williammanda: | :) |
| [02:08:04] | riksta: | williammanda, did you try with dvbscan ? |
| [02:08:16] | williammanda: | no what is that? |
| [02:08:44] | riksta: | it's part of dvb-utils or dvb-apps whatever it's called |
| [02:08:54] | riksta: | it's a console application that makes the channels.conf |
| [02:09:12] | williammanda: | do i need to compile it? |
| [02:09:15] | Dibblah: | Again. Just use the internal scanner. Choose one channel from channels.conf. |
| [02:09:28] | Dibblah: | Then scan from that. |
| [02:09:46] | williammanda: | i'm not following you dibb |
| [02:10:00] | Dibblah: | channels.conf is a text file. |
| [02:10:08] | Dibblah: | Each line specifies a channel. |
| [02:10:11] | williammanda: | all i know is to scan and let it run till it is finished |
| [02:10:30] | riksta: | williammanda, first of all how did you get a channels.conf in the first place? |
| [02:10:47] | williammanda: | a local friend on the same cable |
| [02:10:55] | williammanda: | who uses mythtv |
| [02:10:56] | Dibblah: | If you just get the option to blind scan, you're not using a DVB-c card, AFAIK. |
| [02:11:31] | riksta: | williammanda, well that's no guarantee it will work for you....although i guess it should...butim no cable expert |
| [02:11:38] | williammanda: | i have a pchdtv and fusion 5 rt gold cards |
| [02:12:06] | williammanda: | set them up using the dvb in capture cards |
| [02:12:37] | williammanda: | is this not what you are talking about? |
| [02:12:55] | riksta: | williammanda, you need to go to the channels section (5) |
| [02:13:14] | williammanda: | in mythtv setup? |
| [02:13:21] | riksta: | yeah, that's what he's talking about |
| [02:13:45] | williammanda: | ok #5 |
| [02:13:53] | riksta: | there's a scanner |
| [02:14:05] | riksta: | and you can import the channels.conf apparently |
| [02:14:45] | Dibblah: | Scan type 'Import channels.conf'. |
| [02:14:48] | williammanda: | do i key them in or transfer the file to the computer? |
| [02:14:51] | Dibblah: | But don't do that. |
| [02:15:21] | Dibblah: | Sheesh. |
| [02:16:07] | Dibblah: | I would walk you through translating a channels.conf entry into the bits required for dvb-c tuning... But my backend just died. |
| [02:16:20] | Dibblah: | And it's 2:19 :) |
| [02:16:36] | williammanda: | channel scanner ...is it the same in #4? |
| [02:16:38] | riksta: | haha Dibblah same here are you UK? |
| [02:16:52] | Dibblah: | Yeah. |
| [02:16:53] | riksta: | yeah just checked ur host |
| [02:17:01] | riksta: | <Manchester |
| [02:17:14] | Dibblah: | <Frozen northern wastelands. |
| [02:17:22] | riksta: | hehe, which is? |
| [02:17:29] | Dibblah: | Dundee. |
| [02:17:30] | riksta: | dundee? |
| [02:17:38] | riksta: | :) |
| [02:17:48] | Dibblah: | Yeah. You can read Telewest's hostnames too. |
| [02:17:59] | riksta: | ok ok, but it coulda been dunstable or whatever |
| [02:18:09] | riksta: | oh no it says dund |
| [02:18:10] | riksta: | :) |
| [02:18:56] | williammanda: | where can i find out how to do this? |
| [02:20:50] | Dibblah: | Okay. |
| [02:21:02] | Dibblah: | Does your channels.conf have lines like KNTV-HD :207000000:QAM_256:65:68:4 |
| [02:21:09] | williammanda: | yes |
| [02:21:14] | Dibblah: | Woo hoo. |
| [02:21:21] | Dibblah: | Go into the scanner. |
| [02:21:26] | Dibblah: | You want 'tuned'. |
| [02:21:30] | williammanda: | but it is text in an email |
| [02:21:36] | Dibblah: | Then you need to pick one of those lines. |
| [02:21:40] | williammanda: | k |
| [02:21:40] | Dibblah: | Any one will do. |
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| [02:22:11] | Dibblah: | First number you enter in frequency in the "tuned scan" option. |
| [02:22:30] | Dibblah: | Next select QAM_256 (or whatever) as your modulation. |
| [02:22:34] | Dibblah: | Then click scan. |
| [02:22:37] | williammanda: | this one 207000000? |
| [02:22:53] | Dibblah: | Yup. If that's from your channels.conf |
| [02:22:57] | williammanda: | k |
| [02:24:09] | Loto: | AH! almond chicken in the eye! |
| [02:24:11] | onewheelskyward: | Has anyone used an USB to Serial convertor in Linux? |
| [02:24:12] | Loto: | it burns! |
| [02:24:30] | onewheelskyward: | Loto: Got a safety eyewash handy? :) |
| [02:24:40] | Dibblah: | After that completes (it'll probably only add a few channels), you need to do 'Scan all transports' or something similar. |
| [02:24:53] | Loto: | i just sweet&sour'd it |
| [02:24:57] | Loto: | i think it'll be ok |
| [02:25:05] | Dibblah: | onewheelskyward: They only work for some applications (not software decoding IR, for example) |
| [02:25:33] | Loto: | under linux they probly wont appear as a normal /dev |
| [02:26:01] | Dibblah: | Eh? |
| [02:26:11] | Dibblah: | /dev/ttyUSB0,... |
| [02:26:34] | Loto: | ah, wasnt sure if there was kernel support for it |
| [02:26:36] | Dibblah: | I think that may have changed in recent kernels to be standard /dev/ttySx... |
| [02:26:43] | Dibblah: | Depends on the adapter. |
| [02:26:48] | Dibblah: | Many are supported. |
| [02:26:59] | Loto: | do usb serial devices have a standard drive akin to mass storage? |
| [02:27:05] | Loto: | *driver |
| [02:27:10] | onewheelskyward: | You know what? The cable would be as much as a new USB IR blaster. Screw it. :) |
| [02:27:45] | Dibblah: | Loto: No. Of course not. That would be too easy. ;) |
| [02:28:18] | Dibblah: | I hate to be one to push MS products, but MCEUSB2. All the way. |
| [02:28:35] | onewheelskyward: | Can you translate that from Gates to English? |
| [02:28:51] | Dibblah: | Actually, that's the Linux driver name ;) |
| [02:28:56] | onewheelskyward: | Oh. hehe |
| [02:29:14] | Dibblah: | Media Center Edition USB remote control. |
| [02:29:56] | onewheelskyward: | I think that's going the wrong way...I need to emit IR, not receive it. |
| [02:30:12] | Dibblah: | onewheelskyward: Yup. |
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| [02:30:43] | hexa: | is it possible to skip commertials while watching live tv ? |
| [02:31:05] | onewheelskyward: | Yes, if you're back in the buffer you can skip ahead until you catch up. |
| [02:31:10] | onewheelskyward: | Can you mythcommflag live tv though? |
| [02:31:27] | Dibblah: | You can do that with the MCE. As long as the little blaster thing is <2cm from the device to be controlled. |
| [02:31:48] | onewheelskyward: | I usually fix that by 'recording' whatever live TV I want to watch, wait 10 minutes, then start watching it. |
| [02:31:51] | Dibblah: | onewheelskyward: AFAIK, not by default. |
| [02:32:07] | hexa: | onewheelskyward, nice good idea :) thx |
| [02:32:47] | Dibblah: | I see 'shut up!' is still popular :) |
| [02:34:19] | onewheelskyward: | Heh...by the time I get through with this I might have a PCI-X 16X COM port card. It's my only free slot. :) |
| [02:35:30] | Dibblah: | Good luck with the 3.3v lottery. |
| [02:36:13] | onewheelskyward: | Hey, it's a 6 year old Antec power supply. How unstable could that be? |
| [02:36:34] | Dibblah: | I wish someone would give the PCI card manufacturers the hint that: Yes, the little slots are meant to be _voltage_ keys. |
| [02:37:15] | Dibblah: | Not "PCI cards have two slots at the bottom even if it fries things when you plug it into a 3.3v only socket" |
| [02:37:46] | onewheelskyward: | You know, the cable network is all IP based these days — I should be able to send a TCP/IP packet to it to tell it to change the channel by now. |
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| [02:39:09] | onewheelskyward: | The sad part is I just took a board with a COM port out of the machine...but I'd have to downgrade from Athlon 3000+ to an 1800+. |
| [02:42:07] | Loto: | what model of motherboard have you got |
| [02:42:17] | Dibblah: | onewheelskyward: The lottery in all of it's glory: |
| [02:42:18] | Dibblah: | http://www.quatech.com/support/rs232serialpci_faq.php#3 |
| [02:46:49] | qwehnce: | i have completely reinstall debian etch, and was wondering if this is complete enough if i have never setup a mysql server/database http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Installi . . . _Debian_Etch |
| [02:50:18] | qwehnce: | hello, i am really looking for some help |
| [02:50:36] | onewheelskyward: | Loto: Gigabyte K8N5IPVM9-RH — and it does have a COMA header. It says 'contact your dealer for a connector'. |
| [02:50:54] | onewheelskyward: | I'll take a quick look at that url, qwehnce. |
| [02:51:21] | onewheelskyward: | That will work for the software — but it doesn't cover the tuner cards. |
| [02:51:29] | onewheelskyward: | What kind of card do you have? |
| [02:51:43] | qwehnce: | i perform this " mysqladmin -u root password yourpasswordhere " and receive the same errors as before. connection to server at 'localhost' failed. |
| [02:52:29] | onewheelskyward: | Did you start mysqld before running the admin command? |
| [02:52:55] | qwehnce: | onewheelskyward, its wasnt on the wiki. |
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| [02:53:22] | onewheelskyward: | Give that a shot. |
| [02:53:46] | qwehnce: | onewheelskyward, i have never really used mysql |
| [02:53:49] | onewheelskyward: | The server has to be running in order for mysqladmin to run the grant command, which sets the password. |
| [02:54:00] | qwehnce: | i can only assume its /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| [02:54:08] | onewheelskyward: | Yeah or maybe mysqld. |
| [02:54:20] | onewheelskyward: | Did that start 'er up? |
| [02:54:42] | qwehnce: | it says mysqld is already running. |
| [02:55:38] | qwehnce: | debian:~# /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| [02:55:39] | qwehnce: | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld already running. |
| [02:55:40] | onewheelskyward: | what happens if you type 'mysql -u root' from the shell? |
| [02:56:05] | qwehnce: | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
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| [02:56:21] | onewheelskyward: | Try mysql -u root -p |
| [02:56:26] | onewheelskyward: | and type in the password you've been trying to use. |
| [02:56:51] | qwehnce: | that gave me access to mysql |
| [02:57:17] | onewheelskyward: | Ok, then it was successfully run! Congratulations! |
| [02:57:41] | onewheelskyward: | Now then — is it the -h localhost command that's giving you an error? |
| [02:57:42] | qwehnce: | is there anything more i must configure for mysql? |
| [02:57:46] | onewheelskyward: | In that case — do this: |
| [02:57:57] | onewheelskyward: | mysqladmin -u root -p -h localhost password 'passwordhere' |
| [02:58:02] | onewheelskyward: | and enter your root pw when it prompts. |
| [02:58:47] | qwehnce: | ok |
| [02:59:22] | qwehnce: | am i able to move on? |
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| [03:00:31] | onewheeltwo: | qwehnce: I just lost my connection. How's it going? |
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| [03:01:03] | qwehnce: | onewheeltwo, mysqladmin -u root -p -h localhost password worked, am i able to move on? |
| [03:01:15] | onewheeltwo: | Yep! |
| [03:03:37] | qwehnce: | onewheeltwo, thanks for helping me out. |
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| [03:09:17] | squish102: | ahhh dvdauthor keeps just stopping when creating dvd's.. any idea where to look for the error? |
| [03:09:31] | squish102: | is tmp/logs the only place to see the error? |
| [03:10:02] | squish102: | mythfrontend says "starting dvdauthor" and then never ends |
| [03:10:06] | onewheeltwo: | I've never used dvdauthor, but what about /var/log/mythtv? |
| [03:10:40] | squish102: | ok, i'll look there |
| [03:14:04] | squish102: | nope nothing in there |
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| [03:14:15] | squish102: | i am gonna try reboot, because it used to work |
| [03:17:37] | qwehnce: | when i run mythtv-setup in fluxbox, x11 crashes and i get kicked back to console. |
| [03:17:55] | qwehnce: | onewheeltwo, when i run mythtv-setup in fluxbox, x11 crashes and i get kicked back to console. |
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| [03:39:47] | monteslu: | he guys, I've gotten everything to work except that I cant actually get things to record. I've got two tuners setup, and I can watch live tv and rewind live tv, but recording is just getting ignored |
| [03:40:50] | H00chster: | monteslu make sure you followed the instructions making your recording directories writable by myth |
| [03:40:56] | CharlieSu: | I've got myth up and running perfectly on my gentoo box but I've got a windows box that is accessing mythweb and seeing the myth:// links under recorded programs... Is there any way to download/stream those files to a windows box on my LAN? |
| [03:40:58] | H00chster: | chmod a+rwx /directory |
| [03:41:25] | monteslu: | H00chster, it is |
| [03:41:36] | monteslu: | is there a log i can tail or something ? |
| [03:42:19] | H00chster: | run mythfrontend with -v all |
| [03:42:27] | H00chster: | and watch what happens when you try and record something |
| [03:42:33] | H00chster: | or might be mythbackend -v all |
| [03:43:29] | monteslu: | ok, I'll try it |
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| [03:45:57] | monteslu: | no errors coming out, but the myth guide still just says "Not Recording" for the show I want to record |
| [03:46:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hi guys... Just got back from 'micro center'... I took a chance and bought a dual-tuner PCIe hybrid HD/ntsc tuner – has Conexant CX2388 chipset & LG 5th generation tuner. It's the same chipset as the Fusion HDTV5 Express – I'm googling now, but do you know if it's supported in Linux yet? |
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| [03:47:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | make that Conexant CX23885 chipset... |
| [03:49:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hummmm... Seems it's too new atm... :-( |
| [03:49:53] | ** J-e-f-f-A the internal stuggle begins... "Take it back, or keep it until it's supported..." "humm..." ** | |
| [03:53:25] | purserj: | J-e-f-f-A: what kernel are you using? |
| [03:54:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | perserj: FC6 — 2.6.19–1.2895.fc6 |
| [03:54:10] | radi0head: | Hello, is there anyone here having trouble updating the mythtv listings with mythfilldatabase? It seems like zap2it is giving me some errors: HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error. |
| [03:54:53] | purserj: | J-e-f-f-A: hmm, I think my card uses the same chipset let me double check |
| [03:54:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | radi0head: I believe those are cosemetic — it should work on a subsequent attempt... |
| [03:54:59] | radi0head: | I set mythfilldatabase to update each days. But since a couple of days, it doesn't seem to want to update, so I ran it manually just to discover that it looks like it can't connect to zap2it anymore. |
| [03:55:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | perserj: It's a PCIe card... (IE PCI Express)... pretty new stuff... (had to spend my bonus on something!) |
| [03:56:09] | purserj: | ah okay, well I don't have PCIe |
| [03:57:06] | radi0head: | J-e-f-f-A; It's supposed to update each days automatically, which it does, but there seems to be problems going on with zap2it these days. No matter how many times I run mythfilldatabase, there are things which aren't updating. |
| [03:57:35] | radi0head: | And giving me those unable to connect kmind of errors. |
| [03:57:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | purserj: Thanks... ;-) I already have an HD3000 and HD5500, but was hoping to either eliminate or suppliment them with this new dual-tuner PCIe HD tuner... |
| [03:59:05] | radi0head: | Does anyone know when the next stable version of mythtv will be available? |
| [03:59:31] | radi0head: | Argh, GreyFoxx is afk. |
| [03:59:54] | purserj: | J-e-f-f-A: I need to get a second card, still too many conflicts between kids programmes and ours |
| [03:59:56] | J-e-f-f-A: | radi0head: My .19 system has been rock solid... ;-) My new .20 system isn't in 'full production' yet, but so far, so good... |
| [04:00:15] | radi0head: | J-e-f-f-A; I'm running an old svn build iirc. |
| [04:00:26] | GreyFoxx: | radio: huh ? |
| [04:00:31] | radi0head: | mythtv-svn_r11312_20060927-i486–1 |
| [04:00:39] | H00chster: | radi0head I am purely guessing heh but usually things are ready when they are ready heh |
| [04:01:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | purserj: I'm a firm believer of 'overkill'... my current BE has 3x PVR-x50 tuners fed by Dish sat tuners, and 1HD3000 tuner... New backend will add a HD5500, a USB HVR-950, and I was hoping this dual-tuner PCIe card.. (but not yet!) |
| [04:01:28] | radi0head: | H00chster; Yeah I know, but sometimes GreyFoxx knows when the next version is close to be ready. |
| [04:01:29] | radi0head: | heh |
| [04:01:47] | GreyFoxx: | radio: Not likely anytime soon |
| [04:01:53] | H00chster: | I am sure he would be one of the first aye! but ya just don't wanna rush things |
| [04:01:57] | radi0head: | Ah okay, thanks GreyFoxx |
| [04:02:09] | GreyFoxx: | too much stuff going on and too many bugs still open |
| [04:02:57] | H00chster: | there's no bugs |
| [04:03:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | radi0head: If you're looking for stable, perhaps you shouldn't be running the SVN version — isn't that the 'bleeding edge' alpha/beta code? |
| [04:03:04] | H00chster: | just features that aren't fully implemented properly! :) |
| [04:03:14] | H00chster: | svn rocks |
| [04:03:18] | purserj: | H00chster: you work for MS don't you |
| [04:03:19] | ** radi0head agrees. ** | |
| [04:03:30] | H00chster: | how are they supposed to work out bugs and make the next stable if nobody tests it! :) |
| [04:03:30] | ** radi0head agrees with H00chster ** | |
| [04:03:44] | H00chster: | heh purserj |
| [04:03:47] | H00chster: | HELLLL NO |
| [04:04:24] | radi0head: | I need to get the latest svn, my revision is kind of old. |
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| [04:05:30] | radi0head: | Anyone here has Illico Digital TV? |
| [04:06:08] | radi0head: | (by Videotron) |
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| [04:50:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | Humm... I think I'll take this PCIe tuner back and pick up a HDHomeRun instead... Anybody here using one atm? |
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| [05:09:21] | Fooker: | Hey all. Is anyone familiar enough with the code to tell me exactly what myth does when a show is deleted and not allowed to re-record? |
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| [05:14:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fooker: I'm not sure about the exact specifics, but the program details are stored in the database, and if a new recording comes up that matches that criteria, it's flagged as 'previously recorded'... |
| [05:15:09] | Fooker: | J-e-f-f-A: So I would assume that the entry is kept in the recordings database, with a filesize of 0 and autoexpire set to false? |
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| [05:16:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fooker: Like I said, I'm not sure specifically. I wasn't sure if you wanted a 'general' answer, or an 'exact' answer, so I tried to help by telling what I knew so far... |
| [05:17:29] | Fooker: | Yeah, no problems. |
| [05:21:12] | Fooker: | J-e-f-f-A: Question for ya – been a while since I've really mucked with mysql. Does it block access from remote machines by default? |
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| [05:30:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fooker: Yes... There's a tip in Jared's howto "Tips & Tricks section" to enable remote frontends... http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php ... |
| [05:30:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fooker: You also need to be sure to set your backend's 'real' ip in mythtv-setup, not 127.0.0.1 ... |
| [05:34:18] | Fooker: | J-e-f-f-A: Just actually trying to get a mysql client on my laptop to connect to the database on my myth box, I thought maybe I had an error in my syntax, but everything appears good. Not sure why its refusing to connect... |
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| [05:37:12] | fatrhino: | any reasons mythbackend would be running 97–99% CPU in top when its not recording, playing back or commflagging? |
| [05:37:53] | fatrhino: | AMD 3500+, everything works fine, just wondering why this would be |
| [05:41:22] | Fooker: | Yep |
| [05:41:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fooker: Also, jared mentions having to edit mysql.txt on the remote frontend (client) — not sure if that's required for the mysqlclient too, or just myth... |
| [05:43:35] | Fooker: | No, not needed |
| [05:44:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fooker: Humm... not sure where else to go then. There's probably a log or two to look at somewhere, but I'm not familair enough with it yet to tell you were... Sorry... |
| [05:44:45] | Fooker: | All the logs are empty, which makes me think something else is broken as well... |
| [05:45:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fooker: Humph... Well, I hope you get it sorted out... I've got to get to sleep... ttyl. |
| [05:45:55] | Fooker: | Thanks |
| [05:46:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | np. |
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| [06:58:26] | onewheelskyward: | Has anyone used Myth on Ubuntu 6.10? |
| [07:03:02] | amrit|bbl is now known as amrit | |
| [07:04:49] | hads: | onewheelskyward: Yes |
| [07:05:36] | onewheelskyward: | Any strange issues? I tried it out yesterday and everything looked fine...until I recorded. Any recording, no matter the planned length, would only record 58 seconds worth. |
| [07:06:47] | onewheelskyward: | After seeing that, and my mixed experiences with Gentoo, I reinstalled with FC6 and everything's working just fine. |
| [07:06:54] | hads: | Nope, no issues here. Not using the packages though. |
| [07:07:07] | onewheelskyward: | ah that's probably the trick. |
| [07:07:29] | hads: | I installed using packages on a friends though and it appears to work |
| [07:07:37] | hads: | Well, it does work |
| [07:08:06] | onewheelskyward: | Yeah, I get the feeling there was something tricky about my install..I didn't waste any time checking the logs, though. |
| [07:08:45] | hads: | Well there's your problem |
| [07:09:00] | hads: | Logs are your friend |
| [07:09:02] | onewheelskyward: | :D |
| [07:09:57] | onewheelskyward: | So are free Linux distros. |
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| [08:25:20] | hads: | Can anyone confirm that mythgallery can't handle using the Internal player yet? |
| [08:26:37] | Spida_ is now known as Spida | |
| [08:29:30] | Dagmar: | I was under the impression that it used the internal image viewer |
| [08:29:53] | hads: | I mean for video clips |
| [08:36:03] | Dibblah: | It has worked okish for me in the past. |
| [08:36:16] | Dibblah: | Doesn't understand some mpeg4 containers, but... |
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| [08:41:36] | hads: | With the Internal player? I just tried putting "Internal" in the settings and it doesn't want to play anything |
| [08:42:43] | kambei: | Who was telling me that you need a 3+Ghz processor to play HD? |
| [08:43:29] | hads: | There's various user reports on the XvMC page on the wiki |
| [08:43:47] | Dibblah: | hads: I'm using SVN. |
| [08:44:04] | kambei: | hads: Was that directed at me? |
| [08:44:50] | hads: | Dibblah: Yeah, I'm using .20-fixes, has there been a commit relating to mythgallery with the Internal player? |
| [08:44:53] | hads: | kambei: Yes |
| [08:45:01] | kambei: | hads: Okay, thanks. |
| [08:45:29] | Dibblah: | hads: I have no idea. |
| [08:45:48] | hads: | kambei: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC#Example_CPU_Savings |
| [08:46:22] | hads: | Dibblah: OK, Are you using the internal player or the default mplayer line? |
| [08:46:28] | hads: | (with mythgallery) |
| [08:46:37] | kambei: | hads: Thanks. |
| [08:50:19] | Dagmar: | I didn't know MythGallery did video clips at all. |
| [08:50:23] | Dagmar: | I thought it was just static images. |
| [08:50:38] | Dibblah: | hads: Internal. |
| [08:51:34] | hads: | Dibblah: Cool, thanks. |
| [08:57:08] | ambrness: | Hi, I thought I'd configured mythtv to use tv_grab_au and eit, but no eit data shows up. and sure enough mythfilldatabase says "Source configured to use only the broadcasted guide data. Skipping." ... how and where do i configure this, since my gui efforts aren't working ? |
| [08:57:32] | H00chster: | www.google.com |
| [08:57:42] | H00chster: | heh wrong window |
| [08:57:57] | ambrness: | hah, i was about to say that i have googled this, and just gotten bug reports :P |
| [08:58:04] | H00chster: | heh! |
| [08:58:17] | H00chster: | alt tabbed outa a game and thought I was on the web browser lol |
| [08:59:42] | Dibblah: | ambrness: Video sources, configure a grabber. |
| [08:59:46] | Dibblah: | mythtv-setup |
| [08:59:52] | ambrness: | yeah, i have one configured |
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| [08:59:55] | ambrness: | and it grabs and populates |
| [09:00:05] | ambrness: | but yet my listings window is empty |
| [09:00:09] | ambrness: | searches show up data, however |
| [09:00:21] | Dibblah: | Time / date set right? |
| [09:00:24] | ambrness: | yep |
| [09:00:54] | ambrness: | actually ... that might have explained why asking it to record a program fails |
| [09:01:04] | ambrness: | i have to manually set schedules |
| [09:01:10] | ambrness: | but yeah, time and date are fine |
| [09:01:12] | hads: | Timezone? |
| [09:01:28] | ambrness: | correct |
| [09:02:06] | ambrness: | basically followed that : http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation |
| [09:03:10] | ambrness: | it's just odd that if i tell it "record on this date at this time", it works ... if i search for the program on at that time, and say record, it doesn't even show up in upcoming recordings |
| [09:04:47] | ambrness: | oh wait, it does show up in upcoming recordings now |
| [09:04:51] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [09:04:56] | Dagmar: | Heisenbug! |
| [09:06:01] | ambrness: | would just love to have data in the listings window |
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| [10:23:29] | Zider: | should any firewire box work with linux/mythtv? or are some unsupported somehow? |
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| [10:27:56] | juski: | morning all |
| [10:29:29] | Zider: | ahoy juski |
| [10:31:07] | rsdvd: | hi Juski |
| [10:31:37] | juski: | on the drive in this morning I didn't see any cars. all I saw were vector shapes with gradient fills |
| [10:31:52] | Zider: | juski: do you know if all dtv boxes with firewire works or do some need special support somehow? |
| [10:32:16] | rsdvd: | juski : LOL....with neon glow |
| [10:32:41] | juski: | Zider: AFAIK your cable company has to provide you with a box that has firewire output enabled to at least allow you to stream channels you'd ordinarily get OTA |
| [10:32:59] | juski: | in tha US, anyhow |
| [10:33:19] | Zider: | juski: yes, but provided I have a box with firewire, would any make/model work? |
| [10:33:26] | juski: | yeah rsdvd I've been getting my vector drawing skills up to date |
| [10:33:34] | juski: | Zider: no idea |
| [10:33:38] | ambrness: | now not even manually scheduled things record ... getting ridiculous ... sits in upcoming recordings, then disappears when meant to be recording |
| [10:33:42] | Zider: | or does SomeManufacturers CoolBox1000 not work for some reason ;) |
| [10:33:51] | ambrness: | teach me to tamper to try and get eit working |
| [10:34:46] | juski: | rsdvd: decided to go with vectorised watermarks after all :) they look way more spiffy IMHO |
| [10:35:08] | juski: | easier to maintain an overall style too ;) |
| [10:35:09] | Zider: | juski: I found this really neat DTV box for 3,5" floppy mount.. :) |
| [10:35:22] | juski: | Zider: eh? |
| [10:35:28] | rsdvd: | juski : do you have a latest example? |
| [10:35:57] | juski: | rsdvd: gimme a sec |
| [10:36:00] | Zider: | juski: http://tystpc.nu/pics/de/produktbilder/floppydtv-t-ci.jpg |
| [10:37:05] | juski: | Zider: uh-oh. doesn't look like any cable box you'd be able to use in the USA |
| [10:37:20] | Zider: | juski: have no idea, I'm not in the US tho |
| [10:37:35] | juski: | ah |
| [10:37:41] | juski: | looks like it's only dvb-t anyway |
| [10:37:59] | Zider: | juski: there are models for different dvb-* |
| [10:38:04] | juski: | ah |
| [10:38:11] | juski: | and it has a CI * slot :) |
| [10:38:16] | Zider: | yep |
| [10:38:34] | Zider: | and sincwe it uses firewire, it SHOULD work just likme any box, right? |
| [10:38:36] | juski: | don't think it'd work with mythtv though |
| [10:38:44] | Zider: | that's how I undersdtand it at least |
| [10:38:55] | Zider: | ..and I still can'tr spell, even tjho I bought a new kbd ;) |
| [10:39:03] | juski: | you'd probably have to do some serious hacking |
| [10:39:10] | Zider: | oh? |
| [10:40:39] | juski: | yeah to get the right protocol for channel changing etc |
| [10:41:09] | Zider: | I thought all that was standard |
| [10:41:34] | juski: | maybe, maybe not |
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| [10:43:43] | Zider: | now I'm getting unsure if I should get digital-tv or not :P |
| [10:44:05] | juski: | well not _that_ thing. I wouldn't advise you buy it |
| [10:44:16] | juski: | pci or usb dvb tuners are proven |
| [10:44:33] | juski: | but if you want to be the trailblazer ;) |
| [10:44:33] | Zider: | usb? I thought most were firewire? |
| [10:44:37] | juski: | nope |
| [10:44:47] | Zider: | hum |
| [10:44:52] | rsdvd: | Zider – I could not say if that card will work – but it is very interesting – a usb DVB in a floppy mount |
| [10:44:54] | juski: | you have dvb receivers confused with cable STBs in the USA |
| [10:45:12] | Zider: | rsdvd: yeah, it's a brilliant idea imo |
| [10:45:20] | Zider: | juski: I see.. |
| [10:45:30] | juski: | no use for me. my backend has no floppy slot :) |
| [10:46:03] | rsdvd: | it is just an external USB device that is remounted in a 3.5" case – with an internal usb wire |
| [10:46:33] | Zider: | yep |
| [10:46:33] | juski: | if that wanker shakes my chair when he walks past one more time he's gonna get PUNCHES in the face |
| [10:46:59] | rsdvd: | LOL |
| [10:47:12] | rsdvd: | are you in Swinton again? |
| [10:47:20] | juski: | nope |
| [10:47:43] | juski: | he goes past my desk & grabs the back of my chair & shakes it, knowing how annoying it is |
| [10:47:57] | juski: | I might format his hard drive tonight when he's gone home |
| [10:48:04] | rsdvd: | Arh.....he deserves a smack then :-) |
| [10:48:04] | juski: | xfs |
| [10:48:24] | rsdvd: | FYI – english version of that floppy decoder (http://www.digital-everywhere.com/cms/en/index.php) |
| [10:48:31] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [10:48:51] | juski: | you don't need domain passwords to boot a linux live cd :-D |
| [10:48:53] | Zider: | yeah, I was just about to link to it, I just needed to remember the adress first :) |
| [10:51:07] | rsdvd: | wow – £136 in the UK – no thanks! |
| [10:51:58] | Zider: | how much is an "ordinary" box? |
| [10:52:10] | rsdvd: | half that |
| [10:52:21] | Zider: | ah |
| [10:52:32] | rsdvd: | and in the UK you could not use the CAM |
| [10:52:40] | Zider: | oh? |
| [10:52:48] | rsdvd: | 'legally' anyway |
| [10:52:53] | juski: | heheh not since topuptv changed their model |
| [10:53:41] | juski: | you could do dvb-t with a cam, all legit – not that there was anything worth watching with it |
| [10:53:49] | rsdvd: | I have never found anyone who actually uses top-up tv |
| [10:54:14] | juski: | I don't know anybody who has it either |
| [10:54:26] | juski: | there are only about 70,000 users of it, max |
| [10:54:35] | rsdvd: | more than I thought! |
| [10:58:17] | Zider: | what kind of photos? |
| [10:58:21] | rsdvd: | :-) I use a company in hungary for by 'free' photos |
| [10:58:38] | juski: | photos I can use in my themes |
| [10:59:42] | juski: | actually photos I can use for a website design I'm working on too :) |
| [10:59:52] | rsdvd: | if you actually want 'photos' as opposed to art – try http://www.sxc.hu/index.phtml |
| [11:00:07] | juski: | after a good picture of a couple on a sofa watching a big screen wide tv |
| [11:00:22] | juski: | one I can photochop a mythtv screen into ;) |
| [11:00:42] | Merlin83b2: | http://www.google.com/search?q=royalty+free+stock+photos& |
| [11:00:43] | Merlin83b2: | :) |
| [11:01:13] | juski: | Merlin83b2: royalty free never means 'cheap' |
| [11:01:27] | Merlin83b2: | So drop 'royalty' :) |
| [11:01:33] | juski: | I found an ideal one on Sunday. it was 'only' |
| [11:01:43] | juski: | £500 to use for 3 years on a website |
| [11:01:58] | Merlin83b2: | Blimey, a subscription to photos.com is a similar price to tht. |
| [11:02:20] | juski: | Merlin83b2: there's too much crap around, and of questionable origin with unclear licencing |
| [11:02:33] | Merlin83b2: | So get out there with your camera ;-) |
| [11:02:37] | rsdvd: | that one I posted are totally free |
| [11:02:37] | Merlin83b2: | YOu could be famous in your own theme! |
| [11:02:49] | ** juski is not photogenic ** | |
| [11:02:49] | rsdvd: | they also offer ones to pay for |
| [11:04:52] | juski: | ahh THAT'S where I got some photos for PG & blootube |
| [11:05:07] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [11:05:46] | juski: | lost my bookmarks innit |
| [11:05:58] | Merlin83b2: | Did you look behind the fridge? |
| [11:07:05] | juski: | lol |
| [11:07:49] | Zider: | bah.. the cable supplier I have now lacks channels with digital and is expensive with analog, and I can't choose any other supplier.. :P |
| [11:08:25] | Merlin83b2: | Mmm, DVB-T |
| [11:08:32] | juski: | AVRISP MK2 – Low-cost In-System Programmer for Atm |
| [11:08:35] | juski: | bum |
| [11:19:52] | anxt: | i am confused |
| [11:20:05] | anxt: | i can run mprime all day |
| [11:20:55] | anxt: | if i run nuvexport on one host no crashes, if i run it on another, some crashes after a few hours |
| [11:21:14] | anxt: | if i run it on the box that serves the nfs i crashes over and over again |
| [11:21:33] | anxt: | like in minutes |
| [11:34:30] | esperegu: | saluton. |
| [11:35:02] | Zider: | say what now? |
| [11:35:41] | changlinn: | anyone built lirc on ubuntu? |
| [11:35:58] | changlinn: | getting a config error C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
| [11:37:26] | esperegu: | I would like the mythfrondend to shutdown on exit. Is that possible? I see a lot of stuff about shutting down and recording but not a simple shutdown option. |
| [11:37:46] | esperegu: | changlinn: I did an apt-get and it worked |
| [11:38:05] | changlinn: | just apt-get lirc... |
| [11:38:27] | changlinn: | yeah I have an avermedia, and all the how to's say to compile it yourself |
| [11:38:40] | esperegu: | aha. me 2 |
| [11:38:51] | esperegu: | a medion |
| [11:39:26] | changlinn: | does your up/down channel work, a lot of my remote works with just the ir-kbd-gpio module installed, but I can't navigate myth |
| [11:39:28] | esperegu: | changlinn: you know how to shutdown on exit of the frontend? |
| [11:39:52] | esperegu: | which card you have? |
| [11:39:58] | changlinn: | avermedia 771 |
| [11:40:03] | esperegu: | aha |
| [11:40:08] | changlinn: | esperegu: shutdown on exit... hrm |
| [11:40:34] | esperegu: | jes. I want my girlfriend to be able to press the power button on the remote ;-) |
| [11:41:03] | changlinn: | see my power button the remote brings up the ubuntu shutdown menu |
| [11:41:17] | changlinn: | but I am never going to shut mine down :P |
| [11:41:18] | esperegu: | jes. that's normal |
| [11:41:22] | esperegu: | hehe |
| [11:41:45] | esperegu: | you should make a config file. |
| [11:41:50] | changlinn: | yeah but other buttons don't work on the remote, changing channels for example |
| [11:42:00] | esperegu: | lircrc and put it in you .mythtv dir |
| [11:42:02] | changlinn: | esperegu: but what kind a keymap? |
| [11:42:22] | changlinn: | I already have a lircrc but it doesn't seem to be called/work |
| [11:42:33] | esperegu: | lirc should run |
| [11:42:38] | esperegu: | lircd |
| [11:43:18] | esperegu: | hehe |
| [11:43:27] | changlinn: | doesn't need to if you are running ir-kbd-gpio |
| [11:43:39] | changlinn: | see here http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . 65eeea4181b1 |
| [11:43:49] | esperegu: | changlinn: that config is for mythtv..... |
| [11:44:18] | esperegu: | at least mine is workin ;-) |
| [11:44:21] | changlinn: | yeah I know but it doesn't work in the front end |
| [11:44:25] | juski: | stop posting links to forums you need to be a member of :-| |
| [11:44:27] | esperegu: | it does |
| [11:44:35] | esperegu: | indeed |
| [11:44:50] | juski: | wanna look? sign up! |
| [11:44:52] | juski: | grr |
| [11:44:53] | changlinn: | yeah sorry it is a pain in the butt, but they have a huge repo of mythtv info |
| [11:45:08] | juski: | so does the mythtv wiki |
| [11:45:16] | esperegu: | juski: you know how you can shutdown when exiting the frondendL |
| [11:45:22] | juski: | which everybody in their right mind should contribute to |
| [11:45:35] | changlinn: | another annoying thing about that forum, if you are inactive for a couple months it shuts your account and you can't reopen it... hence I am changlinn2 |
| [11:45:38] | juski: | no more bloody blog pages with howtos |
| [11:45:55] | changlinn: | juski: I agree... |
| [11:46:10] | juski: | no, don't look at the official docs, look at MY site for my unique way of doing things |
| [11:46:12] | changlinn: | but I only contribute to a wiki if I know it works and have done it... |
| [11:46:33] | changlinn: | juski: yeah that site is for knoppmyth |
| [11:46:47] | changlinn: | which is what my first mythbox was |
| [11:47:04] | juski: | why didn't you stay with knoppmyth? |
| [11:47:36] | juski: | using knoppmyth as a stepping stone to something else is a little unfair on its developers don't you think? |
| [11:48:04] | qu0zl: | lol |
| [11:48:41] | esperegu: | anyone can give me a hand in automaticly shutting down from within the frontendL |
| [11:48:43] | esperegu: | ? |
| [11:50:27] | qu0zl: | i've not done it esperegu but if i were to try i'd probably try and setup irexec to run 'shutdown -h now' on seeing a particular remote key press |
| [11:51:20] | esperegu: | hmm.. I was hoping that mythtv it self had a way to exit&shutdown from within the frond end. |
| [11:51:59] | changlinn: | juski: there forums were where I got a lot of help to get my box working with my current card and I never wrote down all the stuff I had to do |
| [11:52:37] | changlinn: | I went with ubuntu instead of knoppmyth as knoppmyth is a pain to use/update |
| [11:52:55] | changlinn: | and most of my other machines are ubuntu |
| [11:53:11] | changlinn: | anyway time to put the pc under the tv, later |
| [11:53:45] | juski: | esperegu: it doesn't let you shut the machine down from the UI if it's also the backend |
| [11:53:57] | esperegu: | juski: :-( |
| [11:54:46] | esperegu: | So I will have to make a sh script that does probably... hmm |
| [11:56:55] | juski: | esperegu: why the hell would you want your backend to shut down & possibly miss a recording schedule? |
| [11:57:15] | juski: | the only way to work around that is with nvram wakeup |
| [11:58:51] | esperegu: | hmm... u right |
| [11:58:59] | esperegu: | maybe I should start the welcome |
| [11:59:04] | quicksil1er: | in principle it owuld be cool to link in with the nvram wakeup, and automatically set it to wake up 5 minutes before the next recording |
| [11:59:21] | quicksil1er: | or replace '5 minutes' with 'lower bound on boot time' |
| [11:59:40] | juski: | doesn't it do that already if you set it up properly anyway? |
| [12:00:02] | juski: | I think I'd already use it if I didn't need my backend on all the time |
| [12:00:33] | juski: | but I've started to think of instances where the box could be powered down – like from 2am to 8am |
| [12:00:47] | juski: | I don't usually need it on then |
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| [12:05:20] | Merlin83b2: | juski: Any idea if epias do the fun nvram wake up thinger? |
| [12:06:11] | juski: | Merlin83b2: I dunno. I think so. been thinking about setting my frontend to wake up at 6pm every day |
| [12:06:46] | Merlin83b2: | Yeah, I might have to play with that. Got the leccy bill yesterday. |
| [12:06:54] | Merlin83b2: | Quickly followed it up with a visit to uswitch.com |
| [12:07:12] | juski: | I could save £20 a year. whoop-frickin-ee |
| [12:09:10] | Merlin83b2: | For 5 minutes of effort. |
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| [12:10:38] | juski: | that much is worth switching for |
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| [12:10:46] | Merlin83b2: | Pretty much :) |
| [12:14:15] | juski: | er when did stock xcghng go fee-wise ? |
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| [12:17:11] | juski: | ah it gives search results from stockxpert.com as well |
| [12:17:13] | juski: | duh |
| [12:53:58] | kslater: | so here's my question on boxes being powered on all the time. Do they use the total amount that the PS is rated for? or if they're idle do they use something much less? |
| [12:54:11] | kslater: | I guess it's more of a PS question than anything |
| [12:54:16] | Dagmar: | When they're idle they use a LOT less |
| [12:54:31] | Dagmar: | If you really want to know, go to NewEgg and dig around in their power supplies inventory |
| [12:54:37] | Dagmar: | There's a few models that have an ammeter built into them |
| [12:54:46] | Dagmar: | That "450W" rating is peak load |
| [12:55:24] | Dagmar: | I've pushed a power supply beyond that before (warning... doing so will kill them in a month or two) and what it amounted to was that I didn't dare use the optical drive and with more than one of hte hard drives spun up |
| [12:55:45] | kslater: | interesting |
| [12:56:09] | kslater: | does the same time apply to external 'brick' supplies? |
| [12:56:16] | Dagmar: | Yep. it's peak load |
| [12:56:35] | Dagmar: | Basically, you don't need to go all ricer about it tho |
| [12:56:38] | kslater: | I have a couple of EPIA combo boxes so I shouldn't be pulling all that much no matter |
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| [12:56:57] | Dagmar: | Hit up Google for "power supply calculator" and there are *several* sites around that you just punch in what you've got and it tells you what you need. |
| [12:57:21] | kslater: | I think I've used the one on mini-box.com |
| [12:57:23] | Dagmar: | If you don't have like, an SLI video setup with a 4Ghz CPU and four drives, you don't need anything like a 600W power supply |
| [12:58:01] | Dagmar: | I see kids on GaiaOnline all the time speccing out new systems and putting in a 550W power supply for one drive, a burner, and a video card and I have to redirect them to more sane measures because they always seem to want it "quiet" too |
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| [12:58:15] | Dagmar: | High wattage tends to mean bigger, *louder* fans |
| [12:58:49] | Dagmar: | I've got an Athlon T-bird 900Mhz here I'm finally "de-ricing" because, frankly, I was high when I ordered the parts. |
| [12:59:11] | Dagmar: | 550W power supply, and one of those early Thermaltake Golden Orb coolers that does 55CFM |
| [12:59:24] | Dagmar: | It sounds like a small hand vacuum when you power it up |
| [13:00:02] | Dagmar: | Mind you, I was high on painkillers from some knee surgery I'd just had |
| [13:00:34] | Dagmar: | My judgement was not the best that day. I have vague memories of saying "vrrmm...vrmmm... VRRMMM!" when I was picking the parts |
| [13:01:31] | Dagmar: | Aim for the wattage that you might use if you installed as many drives as you think the case might take without being cramped, and at about 37W per IDE/SATA drive, that really only amounts to about 100W extra |
| [13:12:09] | juski: | backend is a nice steady 125W or so, 24/7 :( |
| [13:12:25] | juski: | athlon XPs don't throttle. not the ones I've got anyway |
| [13:13:32] | Dagmar: | 900Mhz isn't an XP. THat's an original T-bird |
| [13:13:46] | Dagmar: | One of the first with their "new" 130nm process, IIRC. |
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| [13:14:14] | juski: | when did I say anything about your 900Mhz poo thing? |
| [13:14:23] | Dagmar: | ...from when CPUs were designed with the ideal of "Oh I'm sure there's some more hard drives you can spin down to save energy" |
| [13:14:47] | Dagmar: | I figured you were referring to it because I am not so sure anyone would buy an XP anymore |
| [13:15:05] | Dagmar: | It doesnt' make any sense with teh 64-bit chips being just as cheap or cheaper in some cases |
| [13:15:25] | juski: | I dunno if i could even buy an XP if I wanted to round here |
| [13:16:56] | Dagmar: | It would not be a reasonable thign to purchase |
| [13:17:25] | Dagmar: | I got dragged into two more "upgrade" jobs for friends of friends here locally this week |
| [13:17:32] | juski: | well, unless you want a room heater included in the price |
| [13:17:46] | Dagmar: | They weren't amused at the prices now |
| [13:18:00] | SeaWeed: | hello all |
| [13:18:20] | juski: | I still find the choice bewildering |
| [13:18:36] | juski: | socket XYZ, socket 123, this that & the other |
| [13:18:45] | juski: | just gimme a frickin fast CPU you muppets |
| [13:18:46] | SeaWeed: | can any 1 point me toward current ( MythStreamTV ) |
| [13:19:05] | juski: | http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox . . . oogle+Search |
| [13:19:11] | SeaWeed: | 0.96 seems to error on install |
| [13:20:14] | SeaWeed: | it looking for ( theme.php ) |
| [13:20:21] | juski: | seems to error eh? wow. how incredibly descriptive |
| [13:20:23] | SeaWeed: | and dont seem to have that file |
| [13:20:31] | SeaWeed: | lol |
| [13:20:44] | SeaWeed: | let me Drop in paiste bin |
| [13:21:02] | Dagmar: | Hmm... looks like it's got PHP in it |
| [13:21:08] | Dagmar: | That could be yer problem right thar |
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| [13:22:56] | SeaWeed: | http://pastebin.ca/335582 |
| [13:23:01] | SeaWeed: | there is error im seeing |
| [13:24:26] | SeaWeed: | mythweb working fine i was just trying to install mythstream |
| [13:24:45] | daviey: | Is /var/www/mythweb//themes/Default/theme.php www-data and your installing as mythtv |
| [13:24:46] | daviey: | Is /var/www/mythweb//themes/Default/theme.php www-data and your installing as mythtv |
| [13:24:53] | daviey: | sorry for repeat |
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| [13:25:30] | sebrock: | I'm back! |
| [13:25:38] | daviey: | oh good |
| [13:25:43] | sebrock: | hehe |
| [13:26:01] | sebrock: | anyone knows of a good image backup utility for linux? |
| [13:26:11] | Dagmar: | Depends on how you want to back up |
| [13:26:17] | Dagmar: | Mondo Backup is great tho |
| [13:26:19] | sebrock: | pref. one that makes bootable images |
| [13:26:23] | Dagmar: | Mondo Backup |
| [13:26:45] | Dagmar: | http://www.mondorescue.org |
| [13:26:58] | sebrock: | I'm thinking of making a "base-system" on a DVD thats bootable and restores my system if something fucks up (as it did last time) |
| [13:27:09] | sebrock: | is mondo able to do this? |
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| [13:27:18] | Dagmar: | The guy gave a presentation to a local LUG here about devving it. he was apparently having some problems with his wife, which got him started on making backups, and his revision control was to make changes, back the machine up, and then restore the backup |
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| [13:27:40] | Dagmar: | If the changes were bad, he'd use the previous backup without them in it |
| [13:27:50] | Dagmar: | It's pretty much designed to do that very thing |
| [13:28:01] | sebrock: | very nice |
| [13:28:01] | rippz: | Hi, got a little problem related with xmltv (yes I googled already ;) |
| [13:28:07] | sebrock: | cant connect to site tho |
| [13:28:13] | rippz: | Am I in the right place to ask a question? |
| [13:28:28] | Dagmar: | rippz: It beats asking at the bus stop |
| [13:28:35] | sebrock: | maybe is it related to mythtv? |
| [13:28:35] | rippz: | true lol |
| [13:28:38] | rippz: | for sure |
| [13:28:46] | rippz: | my mythweb shows the program guide completly messed up |
| [13:28:54] | Dagmar: | messed up how? |
| [13:28:55] | rippz: | it shows the wrong guide for a channel |
| [13:29:05] | rippz: | for example it shows cnn's guide at discovery |
| [13:29:16] | sebrock: | Dagmar, can you connect to the site? |
| [13:29:19] | Dagmar: | It shows different information than Myth's fe does? |
| [13:29:26] | Dagmar: | sebrock: No, I can't acutally |
| [13:29:27] | rippz: | i dont have a myth frond end |
| [13:29:48] | Dagmar: | sebrock: I'm bouncing around links right now looking for a torrent of the live CD |
| [13:29:53] | rippz: | perhaps this means something: when i do mythfilldatabase --manual it says New channel found after update |
| [13:29:54] | sebrock: | Dagmar, k, I try with an alt. site |
| [13:29:57] | rippz: | tho I got channels in the database |
| [13:30:10] | Dagmar: | rippz: That could mean anything |
| [13:30:25] | rippz: | hm |
| [13:30:33] | Dagmar: | If mythweb is showing you something different than the frontend does with respect to lineups, xris might be interested in hearing about it |
| [13:30:49] | Dagmar: | rippz: What are you using as a data source? |
| [13:31:00] | rippz: | for the program guide? |
| [13:31:03] | Dagmar: | Yep |
| [13:31:07] | rippz: | xmltv tv_grab_nl |
| [13:31:18] | Dagmar: | Hrm... I've no idea about that one |
| [13:31:24] | sebrock: | Dagmar, I found a package... now, just to make things straigh, it is possible to backup a bootable image on a dvd and then rewrite to the HD? |
| [13:31:25] | rippz: | it was fine at first |
| [13:31:34] | rippz: | till i imported an sql with the proper channel settings |
| [13:32:05] | Dagmar: | sebrock: Yep |
| [13:32:14] | rippz: | hm i might have a solution already |
| [13:32:17] | sebrock: | I'll try it then, thanks |
| [13:32:20] | rippz: | perhaps i need to switch around the chanids |
| [13:33:46] | rippz: | yes that does the job |
| [13:36:55] | juski: | oh purchasing have fucked up again so can I find alternative parts for them? they'll be lucky |
| [13:37:05] | sebrock: | k got it installed now Im gonna try it out |
| [13:38:28] | juski: | funny but I thought sourcing components was *their* job |
| [13:41:34] | sebrock: | Dagmar, qick question |
| [13:41:57] | Dagmar: | yo |
| [13:42:06] | sebrock: | when doing the backup, should one set it to "everything", I just want to backup the installation |
| [13:42:18] | Dagmar: | Only if you want it to back up everything |
| [13:42:34] | sebrock: | I want to backup my ubuntu |
| [13:42:41] | rsdvd: | juski : just been reading last nights IRC logs – looks like qardengnome might be close to getting minimyth workign on S100 :-) |
| [13:43:38] | juski: | jups |
| [13:43:45] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [13:44:46] | sebrock: | so /dev/sda1 would do it? |
| [13:45:51] | sebrock: | Dagmar? |
| [13:46:10] | sebrock: | thats where my ubuntu is... |
| [13:46:15] | Dagmar: | Then that should do it |
| [13:46:22] | sebrock: | how about swap and stuff? |
| [13:46:28] | Dagmar: | It has some documenation you really do want to read |
| [13:46:36] | Dagmar: | You dont' need to back up a swap partition |
| [13:46:41] | Dagmar: | That would be silly |
| [13:47:08] | sebrock: | sure. Is my kernel sane? |
| [13:47:11] | sebrock: | hihi |
| [13:47:49] | sebrock: | I guess... |
| [13:48:19] | sebrock: | 2.6.17.10-generic |
| [13:48:32] | Dagmar: | Nothing wrong with that |
| [13:48:40] | sebrock: | ok started now |
| [13:48:48] | sebrock: | will it erase the DVD aswell? |
| [13:48:54] | sebrock: | (RW |
| [13:49:01] | Dagmar: | Probably not |
| [13:49:20] | sebrock: | Ok let see |
| [13:51:46] | sebrock: | seems to be a very nice util |
| [13:52:48] | sebrock: | errr.. its backing up empty space as well... |
| [13:53:05] | Dagmar: | Documentation is fun stuff. |
| [13:53:32] | sebrock: | sure |
| [13:53:58] | sebrock: | stupid thing to be default anyway |
| [13:54:02] | Dagmar: | Nope |
| [13:54:16] | Dagmar: | You might someday want to restore a backup and then recover deleted files from it |
| [13:54:59] | sebrock: | is there a way to abort :« |
| [13:55:12] | Dagmar: | power buttons and kill -9 should be equally effective |
| [13:55:41] | sebrock: | hahha dvd is getting in and out |
| [13:57:41] | monteslu: | hey guys, i'm able to pause and rewind live tv, and it's putting files in /mnt/store just fine, but I can't seem to have anything scheduled record. Any ideas? |
| [13:58:17] | monteslu: | I'm going in from the guide, setting up a show to record, but it never switches from "Not Recording" |
| [13:58:49] | juski: | Eclueless |
| [13:59:20] | sebrock: | Dagmar, FYI it did rewrite the disk |
| [13:59:27] | Dagmar: | how do people make the defaults not work? |
| [14:00:48] | juski: | must be some 'special' knack |
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| [14:02:20] | Neeesat25: | Hello |
| [14:02:29] | sebrock: | Dagmar, ? |
| [14:03:04] | Neeesat25: | Anyone try 64 bit system with mythtv? |
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| [14:03:21] | sebrock: | setting up one right now |
| [14:03:34] | juski: | ffs what sort of lame arse question is THAT? |
| [14:04:08] | Neeesat25: | juski: about 64 bit? |
| [14:04:12] | Dagmar: | neesat: I've no idea why it wouldn't work, unless of course you are trying it with a bad distro and don't know what you're doing |
| [14:04:19] | sebrock: | dagmar /root/images/mindi$ are the img and isos here safe to delete? |
| [14:04:43] | Dagmar: | sebrock: If you burned them to disc, sure |
| [14:04:55] | sebrock: | dammit, documentation is down |
| [14:05:08] | Neeesat25: | I didn't try it yet just getting infos if it is possible |
| [14:06:06] | juski: | time to go bang my head on a brick wall |
| [14:07:11] | Dagmar: | I have *got* to stop checking woot.com |
| [14:07:22] | Dagmar: | I have no business buying a new TV right now |
| [14:08:01] | Neeesat25: | juski: It is just a question thats all |
| [14:08:02] | Dagmar: | The sad thing is that I was thinking it would go well with the theme |
| [14:08:27] | Dagmar: | Neeesat25: There's no reason why it won't work |
| [14:08:30] | juski: | Neeesat25: think about the question for a minute |
| [14:08:38] | sebrock: | cant find a switch to not include empty space |
| [14:09:00] | juski: | and ask yourself WHY it might not work then realise there's no reason on God's Earth why it shouldn't work unless you screw something up |
| [14:09:19] | Neeesat25: | I never try 64 bit before and I heared that with drivers etc has problems |
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| [14:09:54] | juski: | try 64 bit & if you have problems go back to 32 bit |
| [14:09:55] | juski: | no loss |
| [14:10:14] | Neeesat25: | ok thanks |
| [14:10:16] | Ruleke: | gday |
| [14:10:21] | juski: | not as if you gain much from operating in 64 bit mode anyway, i heard |
| [14:10:32] | Dagmar: | You get to feel superior about it |
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| [14:11:01] | juski: | hey I'm thinking about buying a new case. will it be compatible with mythtv? |
| [14:11:07] | quicksil1er: | juski: no |
| [14:11:18] | Dagmar: | Only if you can get Domokun stickers for it |
| [14:11:31] | quicksil1er: | juski: you have bad luck, you will inadvertantly choose a case which steals all your cookies and molests your cat |
| [14:11:34] | juski: | ah kewl |
| [14:11:46] | sebrock: | its linked to the mondorescue.org |
| [14:11:50] | Dagmar: | or you could wind up with a case that has a big turbine mouth sticking out the front of it |
| [14:11:59] | juski: | if the case comes in 64 bits will it still work? |
| [14:12:02] | Dagmar: | sebrock: They're all anchor links. Scroll down. |
| [14:12:16] | sebrock: | hahahha |
| [14:12:22] | Ruleke: | juski: if you assemble it :) |
| [14:13:35] | Dagmar: | juski: You can run frontends on these http://www.dvkom.ru/case/atx_1/kitty.jpg |
| [14:13:45] | Dagmar: | They get an extra 5% "specialness" performance |
| [14:14:18] | sebrock: | dagmar, is compression what they refer to as not including empty space... because there is no such option otherwise |
| [14:14:54] | ** Ruleke gave up on mondo a while ago ** | |
| [14:15:04] | Ruleke: | maybe I should re-evaluate it |
| [14:15:11] | Ruleke: | not sure how much has changed |
| [14:15:30] | Dagmar: | I've used it to do backups several times |
| [14:15:50] | Dagmar: | Never did I just coarsely point it at a physical disk and not expect it to make an image backup tho |
| [14:16:26] | sebrock: | Thing is, my ext3 is ~10GB, my linux installation would be ~1GB, it requires 3 DVD discs... thats not right |
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| [14:17:17] | Dagmar: | Perhaps you need another tool then |
| [14:17:36] | sebrock: | so you know of no option to exclude empty space? |
| [14:17:36] | Dagmar: | because, no offence, but i'm not reading the bloody documentation for you |
| [14:17:56] | Dagmar: | I've done it with Mondo, dont' remember what exactly it was I did becuase I've stopped making those kinds of backups anymore |
| [14:18:08] | Dagmar: | I just network restore my stuff now |
| [14:18:11] | sebrock: | non taken, but I cant find such a thing in the docs |
| [14:18:20] | sebrock: | ok I'll have to search around |
| [14:20:04] | Milosch: | personally, i rsync it to another machine... |
| [14:21:21] | sebrock: | think the compression will take care of that |
| [14:22:12] | sebrock: | or I'll switch to g4l, it reads the FS first |
| [14:23:12] | Dagmar: | Amazing. |
| [14:23:26] | Dagmar: | I guess the adage about hammers making everything look like nails holds true again |
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| [14:44:32] | juski: | trust us lot here to pick dual height 9 way D-sub connectors with a totally unique pin spacing |
| [14:45:06] | rsdvd: | :-) you can't 'borrow' them for personal use |
| [14:45:19] | jams: | heh |
| [14:45:47] | juski: | like 750GB HDDs you mean? |
| [14:46:16] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [14:46:32] | rsdvd: | 5 of them in RAID mmmmmm |
| [14:46:47] | juski: | wah! think of my leccy bill! |
| [14:47:10] | rsdvd: | lol.....get a solar panel |
| [14:47:43] | juski: | in manchester? hahaha |
| [14:47:54] | juski: | can rain power stuff yet? |
| [14:47:55] | daviey: | currently my electric bill is £145 a month |
| [14:48:03] | daviey: | grrr |
| [14:48:04] | juski: | a month? |
| [14:48:06] | quicksil1er: | juski: rain can power carrots |
| [14:48:08] | daviey: | yes |
| [14:48:23] | Ruleke: | stop growing canabis then |
| [14:48:34] | juski: | time to evict those travellers from the bottom of the garden then |
| [14:48:41] | Dagmar: | You're putting the electricity to better use |
| [14:49:01] | daviey: | tbh i'm catching up a bit, the electric company recommended £40 a month DD and i used way over that. I have 3 towers pretty much permently on |
| [14:49:06] | Dagmar: | If you don't use those watts, they'll be used by teenagers to listen to rap music, and by women to make their hair poofy |
| [14:49:49] | juski: | Dagmar: more likely by women making their hair shiny & unfeasibly straight these days |
| [14:49:51] | Dagmar: | recommended a what? |
| [14:50:22] | Dagmar: | I'm astonished. |
| [14:50:26] | daviey: | £40 a month direct debit |
| [14:50:34] | Dagmar: | All the electric company here ever tells anyone is "give us yer money" |
| [14:51:04] | Dagmar: | There *is* stuff you can do to lower power consumption |
| [14:51:28] | Dagmar: | I use to have 11 running full time |
| [14:52:11] | daviey: | in a cluster? |
| [14:52:20] | Dagmar: | more like a mongolian horde |
| [14:52:48] | daviey: | haha, no i mean – did you have it set up as a super computer? |
| [14:53:10] | Dagmar: | Literally nothing I do but runnign JTR could make use of that |
| [14:53:19] | Dagmar: | I just had too many machines doing a lot of stuff |
| [14:53:36] | daviey: | Dagmar, like what!? |
| [14:54:02] | juski: | rendering Poser porn |
| [14:54:07] | Dagmar: | Serving files, umm... cracking passwords... doing statistical analysis on packet logs, the usual stuff |
| [14:55:00] | Dagmar: | The unlovely secret no one mentions about doing your own hardware work is that, after awhile, the spare parts and leftovers get together to make new machines |
| [14:55:27] | Ruleke: | tell me about it :) |
| [14:56:04] | Ruleke: | I keep telling myself the setup is as a POC, but it always ends up being the production machine :P |
| [14:56:14] | quicksil1er: | Dagmar: why's that unlovely? |
| [14:56:32] | juski: | my spare box isn't even consuming standy current |
| [14:56:33] | Dagmar: | quicksilver: Because eventually, you find out what they charge for raised flooring. |
| [14:57:35] | Dagmar: | ...and it almost looks cost effective because you've got so many bloody computers in the house |
| [14:57:54] | daviey: | my computers provide central heating |
| [14:58:20] | Dagmar: | Like, right now, I have as leftovers that I think I'm jsut going to bin... no less than 19 drives in sizes from 640Mb to 10Gb |
| [14:58:36] | Dagmar: | daviey: My computers were how we heated the apartment in SF |
| [14:59:04] | Dagmar: | A couple of times people said they thought it was chilly and I adjusted the temperature by waking up three machines and starting thier rc5 clients. |
| [14:59:42] | daviey: | hahha, make them thrash |
| [15:00:51] | Dagmar: | One had two full height SCSI drives in it |
| [15:01:37] | Dagmar: | When the first $150 electric bill comes in the mail, you start to reconsider just leaving drives spinning all day |
| [15:02:23] | daviey: | haha |
| [15:02:45] | daviey: | The misses hates it |
| [15:03:14] | rsdvd: | during winter it is great – we don't need to bother with heating |
| [15:04:39] | daviey: | the noise though!!1 |
| [15:05:15] | juski: | mate of mine has 4 machines always on, godknows what home automation gear.. and air conditioning |
| [15:05:25] | juski: | so there's all the crap making a room hot |
| [15:05:59] | Dagmar: | Yeah, I'm just now sorting through the box that has most of my x10 crap in it |
| [15:06:31] | Dagmar: | That stuff is kinda addictive |
| [15:07:26] | juski: | kinda expensive more like |
| [15:07:56] | juski: | sying that it's still very much small niche thing in the UK |
| [15:08:10] | daviey: | i couldn't afford x10 – so i bought a serial port relay box ;) |
| [15:08:15] | Dagmar: | I was getting the controllers used from people for like $3–4 |
| [15:08:22] | daviey: | geez |
| [15:09:02] | Dagmar: | But like, a fluourescent bulb in a lamp and an x10 controller to make sure it's off when no one's home can just about fund itself at that price |
| [15:09:22] | juski: | I could run misterhouse on my backend :) |
| [15:09:28] | Dagmar: | yep |
| [15:09:48] | juski: | not at £30 a pop for the controllers though |
| [15:09:53] | Dagmar: | I'm alreayd eyeing some of the menu stuff looking for maybe a reliable way to call a shell script to indicate that very possibly the room lighting might need darkening |
| [15:10:15] | Milosch: | i wonder where i hid that serial port interface... |
| [15:10:22] | bluey- is now known as bly^afk | |
| [15:10:47] | juski: | use whatever someone used to implement the ploop plop fart tivo noises |
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| [15:11:41] | juski: | pretty sure they did |
| [15:11:50] | Dagmar: | I thought that was a verboten subject among the devs |
| [15:11:55] | juski: | I was heard to yell "make it stop!!!" |
| [15:12:12] | Dagmar: | Where could one perhaps find these evil, naughty, horrible patches |
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| [15:13:03] | juski: | I dont even think they were patches |
| [15:14:20] | jams: | think it's on the knoppmyth wiki |
| [15:16:09] | juski: | This is difficult to achieve without impelemting and requring all audio devices to be routed through an ALSA mixer (which has its own issues at the moment) --- As a work around, look on the backend setup screen. There is a config option for "Execute command when key pressed" (or something like thing) that you can configure to play a sound |
| [15:16:10] | Ruleke: | Is there a way to determine svn version for a running mythtv ? seems the version string in log at startup is just the date... |
| [15:16:21] | Dagmar: | aha |
| [15:16:39] | Dagmar: | thanks juski |
| [15:16:53] | juski: | ploop ploop parple poop fart.. doodo bing! |
| [15:17:13] | Dagmar: | more like cheep, cheep, brrr-dzt |
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| [15:18:04] | Dagmar: | Actually, I could probably splice into lirc |
| [15:18:20] | jams: | Ruleke- mythfrontend --version |
| [15:19:13] | juski: | a crap pvr should make the sounds of pebbles hitting the bowl |
| [15:19:51] | jams: | lirc is one of the methods on the knoppmyth wiki |
| [15:20:05] | juski: | if folks want tivo so frigging badly why the hell don't they just go get one?! |
| [15:20:11] | Ruleke: | jams: 12306M ? |
| [15:20:17] | Ruleke: | what's the M :) |
| [15:20:17] | Dagmar: | It needs to make a noise like a proejector spinning up when you start a video. |
| [15:20:21] | Dagmar: | :) |
| [15:21:14] | juski: | I smell the end of my interest in mythtv when audio themez hit the scene |
| [15:22:19] | Dagmar: | It could play burlesgue when opening mythgallery. ;0 |
| [15:22:46] | juski: | only for the Bettie Paige scans though |
| [15:25:24] | juski: | email joke time |
| [15:25:25] | juski: | What do you call a 30 year old chav girl? |
| [15:25:54] | cesman: | what is a "chav girl"? |
| [15:25:59] | Ruleke: | can't figure out if a fix made it to -fixes :-/ |
| [15:26:01] | Ruleke: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2412 |
| [15:26:13] | juski: | cesman: a commoner |
| [15:26:19] | Ruleke: | I don't think it made it to knoppmyth for sure |
| [15:26:25] | juski: | the answer is 'granny' fyi ;) |
| [15:26:31] | Ruleke: | might explain the xvmc issues on epia |
| [15:26:57] | juski: | Ruleke: didn't on mine |
| [15:27:33] | Ruleke: | it didn't have the fix or it didn't show the problem running knoppmyth ? |
| [15:27:46] | juski: | didn't fix the problem |
| [15:28:02] | Ruleke: | yeah ok |
| [15:28:10] | juski: | but running mythfrontend as non-root did |
| [15:28:26] | Ruleke: | seems rather strange because xvmc-vld doesn't seem to work at al using knoppmyth :/ |
| [15:28:39] | juski: | worked for me when I tried it |
| [15:29:53] | Ruleke: | darn |
| [15:30:38] | daviey: | so juski what do you call a ......? |
| [15:31:01] | cesman: | "granny" |
| [15:31:05] | daviey: | granny, sorry i'm not listening fast enough |
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| [15:32:24] | cesman: | Ruleke: the -fixes in E50 is 12xyz |
| [15:32:29] | cesman: | cannot remember exactly |
| [15:32:49] | cesman: | if you look at the version information from the menu, it will tell you |
| [15:32:57] | Ruleke: | cesman: yeah I figured it now, I don't think the -fixes branch has that changeset though... |
| [15:44:16] | juski: | cesman: btw have you seen www.juski.co.uk/comingsoon.png ? |
| [15:45:13] | Ruleke: | juski: what is that picture ? :P |
| [15:46:04] | juski: | if it's not self-explanatory you need to switch your higher brain functions on ;) |
| [15:46:23] | cesman: | yes |
| [15:47:08] | Ruleke: | I mean the "icon" |
| [15:48:37] | juski: | looks like a turntable to me |
| [15:48:45] | juski: | I'm dumping that icon |
| [15:48:47] | Ruleke: | yeah I wasn't sure |
| [15:48:49] | cesman: | juski: I don't get your "chav girl" joke |
| [15:49:01] | Ruleke: | not sure how it related to the playback :) |
| [15:49:08] | juski: | Ruleke: it's a mockup |
| [15:49:10] | Ruleke: | for music I could understand |
| [15:49:15] | Ruleke: | yeah just wondering |
| [15:49:28] | juski: | cesman: hardly surprising – you're not a UK res. ;) |
| [15:49:43] | H00chster: | it is a laser disc player ruleke |
| [15:49:50] | Ruleke: | cesman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav |
| [15:49:50] | H00chster: | that's how it relates |
| [15:49:57] | Ruleke: | H00chster: no it isn't :) |
| [15:50:03] | H00chster: | LMAO |
| [15:50:07] | H00chster: | well regardless heh |
| [15:50:08] | Ruleke: | I have one :P |
| [15:50:18] | H00chster: | maybe he has a different one |
| [15:50:33] | Ruleke: | heh |
| [15:50:36] | Scopeuk: | juski we back to normal then i take it? |
| [15:50:41] | juski: | eh? |
| [15:50:49] | juski: | what's normal? |
| [15:50:56] | Ruleke: | drunk and happy |
| [15:51:21] | juski: | you mean it'd been a few days since I yelled at someone? |
| [15:51:28] | H00chster: | it has been awhile |
| [15:51:37] | H00chster: | must be on meds |
| [15:51:52] | juski: | I explained that the other day |
| [15:51:55] | Scopeuk: | juski i was going off the Chav girl joke |
| [15:52:02] | Scopeuk: | juski i was around |
| [15:52:35] | juski: | beats the arse off yakking about lvm endlessly for days |
| [15:52:41] | Ruleke: | hehe |
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| [15:52:52] | ** Ruleke shushes juski ** | |
| [15:53:04] | juski: | lvm lvm lvm lvm lvm |
| [15:53:11] | Ruleke: | oh noes |
| [15:53:30] | juski: | raid0? |
| [15:53:33] | juski: | no raid 5 |
| [15:53:37] | juski: | raid 5? no... |
| [15:54:04] | ** Ruleke sighs ** | |
| [15:55:16] | juski: | we could play a game of how many times we can say the word 'awesome'.. then people who wander in might think they've stumbled into #ubuntu |
| [15:55:30] | cesman: | I tell ya, wikipedia is awesome! |
| [15:55:32] | Ruleke: | or a Fast Show episode |
| [15:56:46] | ** cesman see someone has spruced up the KnoppMyth entry ** | |
| [15:56:59] | Ruleke: | :) |
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| [15:57:46] | Scopeuk: | juski juski juski what have you done |
| [16:00:29] | juski: | pfff.. |
| [16:01:41] | juski: | hey the only webshites I ever deface are my own |
| [16:01:59] | Dagmar: | Boston Police are freaking morons |
| [16:02:48] | Ruleke: | as long as you don't generalise |
| [16:03:03] | Dagmar: | Just wait until you see the news about the Mooninites |
| [16:03:35] | Dagmar: | How these men eat without swallowing the fork, I have no idea. |
| [16:04:02] | Ruleke: | seen it |
| [16:04:52] | Dagmar: | The throwies weren't just slightly mistaken for bombs |
| [16:05:22] | juski: | this week I are been mostly uninstalling ubuntuu |
| [16:05:46] | Ruleke: | hehe |
| [16:05:48] | Dagmar: | ..and like, there's pictures of some of them people managed to nab on Flikr and YouType now |
| [16:05:53] | Dagmar: | Those cops were farking stupid |
| [16:05:54] | Ruleke: | you're from the Isle of Man ? :) |
| [16:06:24] | juski: | Ruleke: er.. I don't have webbed fingers... |
| [16:06:30] | Ruleke: | hehe |
| [16:06:45] | Ruleke: | can't see that from here |
| [16:06:59] | Ruleke: | only see you conjugating verbs :P |
| [16:07:33] | Dagmar: | Shameful public conjugator |
| [16:07:56] | juski: | ooh. suit you sit |
| [16:08:01] | Ruleke: | hehe |
| [16:08:25] | Ruleke: | action gizmo |
| [16:08:53] | juski: | eth ethetheth.. ubuntu distro |
| [16:09:09] | juski: | ubuntu distro-gizmo. chris waddle |
| [16:09:26] | Ruleke: | scorchio |
| [16:09:50] | Ruleke: | hehe still have some lined up in my recordings dir |
| [16:10:27] | juski: | there's at least one scene in one series that was shot outside the hotel where I had my wedding reception |
| [16:11:06] | Ruleke: | during the reception ? |
| [16:11:07] | Ruleke: | :P |
| [16:11:22] | onewheelskyward: | receptions are awesome! |
| [16:12:52] | Dagmar: | they ares muches better than static |
| [16:13:00] | juski: | yeah – relatives you've never met before get to clean out the bar tab in 10 minutes |
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| [16:44:35] | cesman: | later folks |
| [16:46:02] | juski: | later cesman |
| [16:46:11] | juski: | see you at mythfest ;) |
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| [16:48:05] | Scopeuk: | Mythfest? |
| [16:48:41] | juski: | yeah |
| [16:50:00] | juski: | remember that night when we were all drinking to the new knoppmyth release? |
| [16:50:12] | juski: | I said something about organising some event or other |
| [16:50:25] | juski: | forgot all about it til just now |
| [16:54:42] | Scopeuk: | ok |
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| [17:08:38] | ic05sb3: | dagmar, its me again, sebrock... |
| [17:09:00] | juski: | Scopeuk: it's not gonna happen so don't worry about it ;) |
| [17:09:02] | ic05sb3: | can't get mondorecovery to exclude empty space... |
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| [17:09:39] | ic05sb3: | juski, you seem to be around here much and know your stuff... do you have and idea for backing up linux? |
| [17:10:00] | juski: | yes thanks |
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| [17:10:07] | xris: | ic05sb3: backing up what? |
| [17:10:13] | gardengnome: | ic05sb3: are you looking into backup up a complete partition regardless of the file system? |
| [17:11:27] | ic05sb3: | I have installed Ubuntu and am about to install the drivers for tvcard now... I want to backup the system as it is now to a bootable one on DVD so I can easy make recovery |
| [17:11:46] | ic05sb3: | last time, all hell broke loose because of the MySQL db |
| [17:11:47] | gardengnome: | ic05sb3: partimage might be the right tool of your. dunno |
| [17:12:01] | gardengnome: | because of the DB? how? |
| [17:12:18] | ic05sb3: | would not know, it interfered with everythink |
| [17:13:09] | gardengnome: | could be please put some meaning into your scribbles? :) |
| [17:13:11] | ic05sb3: | got the tip to use mondorescue, problem is that it backsup everything, including empty space |
| [17:13:17] | gardengnome: | s/be/you/ |
| [17:13:36] | ic05sb3: | what hard to understand there? |
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| [17:15:38] | gardengnome: | ic05sb3: never mind |
| [17:16:18] | juski: | if the install is so new why bother backing it up? it isn't like ubuntu takes a long time to install |
| [17:16:30] | juski: | back up your mythtv database & some config files – that should be enough |
| [17:17:32] | ic05sb3: | I mean I want to do it when I have a solid "base-system" |
| [17:17:47] | ic05sb3: | looks as partimage is the thing |
| [17:17:52] | juski: | with ubuntu that's normally just after installing |
| [17:18:26] | juski: | you can go from a flat hDD to worky mythtv box in under an hour even with ubuntu if you know what you're doing |
| [17:18:41] | gardengnome: | ic05sb3: what is was trying to say is: you'll need to use mysqldump to backup mysql. just copying /var/lib/mysql/ mighjt result in a corrupt database |
| [17:19:11] | ic05sb3: | juski get off the high horse please, you have no idea what I already configured and what not... |
| [17:19:30] | juski: | ahem! |
| [17:19:37] | juski: | such impertinence! |
| [17:19:53] | ic05sb3: | gardengnome, thanks, we are talking about two different issues |
| [17:20:03] | gardengnome: | alright |
| [17:20:03] | ic05sb3: | I got my answer partimage it is |
| [17:20:08] | ic05sb3: | thanks gardengnome |
| [17:20:11] | qu0zl: | partimage is a good answer alright |
| [17:20:12] | juski: | jesus christ |
| [17:20:22] | ic05sb3: | mute |
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| [17:20:37] | juski: | ssh |
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| [17:22:33] | xris: | ic05sb3|a: why not just back up the mysql db and call it good? |
| [17:28:32] | qu0zl: | to restore it you just boot the target with knoppix again and write the image |
| [17:28:43] | qu0zl: | making a dvd is a pain |
| [17:28:53] | qu0zl: | juski has a fair point though :) |
| [17:30:45] | ic05sb3|a: | I think the use of network is more appealing as cool stuff than functionallity |
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| [17:31:15] | ic05sb3|a: | the DVD is not dependent on network and therefor the much better suited for this |
| [17:31:53] | qu0zl: | the network is quicker/handier if you have a network, which most nerds already do |
| [17:32:08] | qu0zl: | i dont bring my pvr away from the network tbh |
| [17:32:15] | ic05sb3|a: | sure, but mine is wireless and would be much much slower |
| [17:32:31] | qu0zl: | the partition is probably only about 500 megs compressed surely? |
| [17:32:58] | ic05sb3|a: | not at home now but that could be right |
| [17:33:04] | qu0zl: | well, either will work, i just find making bootable dvds more hassle than running a network service |
| [17:33:32] | ic05sb3|a: | well sure, I understand the point aswell... |
| [17:41:40] | Milosch: | i wonder if mythcommflag's --sleep would help my current problem |
| [17:42:08] | Milosch: | seems when commflag starts, the backend ramps up to ridiculous memory usage, e.g. 1.5G resident |
| [17:43:10] | esperegu: | how can I play music from a shared network drive in myth? |
| [17:43:11] | Milosch: | disabled automatic commflag and the machine stopped misbehaving |
| [17:43:27] | Milosch: | esperegu: maybe an nfs mount? |
| [17:43:44] | esperegu: | Milosch: it's allready mounted to /media/mp3 |
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| [17:43:54] | esperegu: | I just need mythtv to recognise it |
| [17:44:16] | Milosch: | esperegu: afaik there is a config only for a single directory of mythmusic |
| [17:44:27] | esperegu: | :-( |
| [17:44:29] | Milosch: | so, point to /media or /media/mp3 |
| [17:44:38] | esperegu: | it's not writable |
| [17:44:47] | Milosch: | mount your nfs within the currently configured dir and it might work |
| [17:44:56] | esperegu: | and in the setup it saids that dir should be writable |
| [17:45:10] | esperegu: | k. will try that then. was hoping for a better sollution ;-) |
| [17:45:28] | Milosch: | needs to be writeable for cd import, not sure otherwise... |
| [17:47:25] | Milosch: | or, make your nfs mount writeable ;) |
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| [17:49:00] | null_: | Hello. Is it a known issue that the internal dvd player stutters each time it should display subtitles? |
| [17:49:21] | monteslu: | hey guys, i'm able to pause and rewind live tv, and it's putting files in /mnt/store just fine, but I can't seem to have anything scheduled record. Any ideas? |
| [17:49:24] | monteslu: | I'm going in from the guide, setting up a show to record, but it never switches from "Not Recording" |
| [17:49:38] | monteslu: | I really want to get this fixed before tonight's spurs-suns game |
| [17:51:51] | alsoconfused: | monteslu: try running the backend with -v schedule |
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| [17:52:39] | monteslu: | alsoconfused, I'll try that. Thanks |
| [17:53:13] | null_: | any ideas on my problem? |
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| [18:01:21] | rikstah: | this could be a cool addition to mythtv for uk users: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6317389.stm &ndash ; the bbc are going to be giving away programming on the internet |
| [18:06:01] | xris: | rikstah: are they actually finally going to do it? they've been talking about it for years. |
| [18:06:31] | rikstah: | seems imminent but you know what they are like ;) |
| [18:06:44] | rikstah: | it'd be cool to have a plugin for myth |
| [18:08:02] | xris: | unlikely.. sounds like drm involved. |
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| [18:16:08] | esperegu: | hehe |
| [18:16:14] | esperegu: | my first dvd in mythtv: |
| [18:16:16] | esperegu: | 2007-02–01 19:16:10.262 You have a title on your dvd in a format myth doesn't understand. |
| [18:18:00] | onewheelskyward: | That's one of the nicest error messages I've ever seen. |
| [18:18:25] | null_: | Hello. Is it a known issue that the internal dvd player stutters each time it should display subtitles? |
| [18:19:40] | Zider: | null_: never seen that, only stutters when changing chapter on some disks |
| [18:22:39] | null_: | Zider: I think the amd1800+ shouldn't be the problem right? |
| [18:25:34] | onewheelskyward: | Are you doing software MPEG-2 decoding? |
| [18:25:49] | null_: | onewheelskyward: I think so yes |
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| [18:27:48] | onewheelskyward: | It might be reaching the limits of the CPU...a top while running playback would be a quick way to ascertain that. |
| [18:29:03] | null_: | it has about 20% idle... |
| [18:29:12] | null_: | 70% idle if no subtitles |
| [18:29:16] | onewheelskyward: | Holy cow. |
| [18:29:30] | onewheelskyward: | I had no idea subtitles were so intensive. |
| [18:29:48] | null_: | I think there is something wrong, mplayer displays them just fine |
| [18:30:12] | onewheelskyward: | aah yes. In that case the hardware is fine. |
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| [18:36:05] | rippz: | oh crap :o |
| [18:36:14] | rippz: | can I restore it somehow |
| [18:39:03] | klingon: | hello, is the Hauppauge WinTV HVR 1600 a good card? |
| [18:39:52] | Milosch: | for windows |
| [18:40:33] | Milosch: | klingon: pretty sure that is the one that is not supported in linux, yet |
| [18:41:22] | klingon: | Milosch: Hauupage considers it an equivalent to the PVR-150 |
| [18:41:45] | mothas: | Anybody know if you have to import a DVD into myth from the backend, or can you do it from the front-end? |
| [18:41:46] | Milosch: | it is a replacement for it, but one of the chips is different and not yet supported |
| [18:42:30] | Milosch: | mothas: should be able to do 'import dvd' via the optical discs menu |
| [18:43:34] | klingon: | Milosch: is work being done to support this card under Linux? |
| [18:44:03] | klingon: | Milosch: Otherwise I will just wait for a deal on the PVR-150 |
| [18:44:07] | Milosch: | availability of data for the chip is the problem, currently not available... |
| [18:44:11] | mothas: | Milosch: OK, but when I try that on my front-end box, it immediately skips to the "no jobs and nothing else to do" or some such. Do I have to have the backend dvd archive mounted on the front-end or something? |
| [18:44:45] | esperegu: | anybody knows what quality mythtv is using to record when you are watching. Is that LifeTV ? |
| [18:44:55] | Milosch: | klingon: careful, they are shipping the new card in the 150 box, along with a note, so you might get lucky but you might not |
| [18:45:29] | Milosch: | mothas: not mounted, no, but make sure the dvd is accessible for the mythtv user and also configured correctly |
| [18:46:05] | klingon: | Milosch: I would return it then, and force whoever sold it to me to eat the shipping/restock fee since they would be selling a mislabled product |
| [18:46:21] | mothas: | Hmmm ok – I'll check that. I haven't actually tried playing it from the Mythtv user on the frontend yet. |
| [18:47:04] | rippz: | mythtv is a real struggle for me to setup proper |
| [18:49:11] | juski: | too late to chime in with a solution for klingon :( |
| [18:49:27] | Milosch: | juski: what would that be? |
| [18:49:56] | juski: | a few forum users have had the hvr1600 shipped instead of pvr150 cards – apparently just getting in touch with your local Hauppauge office & explaining you want it for linux is enough for them to swap it |
| [18:50:40] | juski: | it's going to be at least 9 months before there's a proper driver for the cx23418 mpeg encoder |
| [18:51:00] | Milosch: | contractural obligation no doubt |
| [18:51:01] | juski: | the dvb part already works apparently though |
| [18:51:10] | Milosch: | well, that's interesting |
| [18:52:08] | ** jams collapses while working on tax paperwork ** | |
| [18:52:16] | Milosch: | juski: which driver? |
| [18:52:24] | Milosch: | for the atsc part |
| [18:52:26] | juski: | Milosch: can't remember |
| [18:52:28] | Milosch: | k |
| [18:52:55] | juski: | one thing for sure – the analogue side will not be supported in ivtv |
| [18:53:05] | juski: | it'll be v4l mpeg :) |
| [18:53:23] | Milosch: | by then that sounds reasonable |
| [18:53:58] | juski: | I think it's more workload of the devs making the time so long |
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| [18:54:13] | juski: | they have their work cut out for them as it is |
| [18:54:55] | ** Milosch rediscovers Weather Report ** | |
| [18:55:02] | juski: | very few people work on the the kernel as far as I can tell, comparitively speaking |
| [18:55:52] | Milosch: | only one person that i can see working on ivtv, or least also commenting on it |
| [18:56:04] | juski: | doesn't even bear thinking about what life in linux would be like without them |
| [18:56:20] | juski: | probably like this 80x25 terminal I'm typing in ;) |
| [18:56:34] | Milosch: | i had fun when i helped with one driver in particular, the one for the handspring visor |
| [18:56:46] | Milosch: | but without greg it would never have actually happened |
| [18:56:55] | juski: | I've done a bit, and plan to do some more |
| [18:57:02] | juski: | helping I mean |
| [18:57:03] | Milosch: | thing is, that driver became a wrapper for a lot of other pda's |
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| [18:57:16] | juski: | this is what it's all about |
| [18:57:20] | Milosch: | we got lucky, and HS coughed up the magic |
| [18:57:31] | juski: | community, without the 'awesome' song & dance |
| [18:58:15] | Milosch: | i tried on another for a dual port usb->serial |
| [18:58:42] | Milosch: | spent a time working on firmware, but that was a real pain not being a typical devel |
| [18:58:56] | Milosch: | i'm just a perl/php hack really |
| [18:59:36] | juski: | I'm just a themer / part time web dabbler |
| [19:00:04] | juski: | used to go round calling myself an 'advocate' of mythtv, but I didn't see the point |
| [19:00:05] | Milosch: | spent more time with phpgroupware and now egroupware |
| [19:03:20] | Milosch: | but not very active there anymore |
| [19:03:26] | juski: | been learning about open source the hard way, from a developer's point of view. it's not easy at first, dealing with 'your public' |
| [19:04:28] | juski: | you get "hey thanks for your hard work, I love this but...". Now I can just switch off |
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| [19:06:09] | juski: | tonight I'll mostly be setting up subversion properly (I hope) |
| [19:06:23] | juski: | check all my work to date in there |
| [19:06:29] | juski: | some RTFMing to do |
| [19:06:31] | Milosch: | well, i used to not be so customer oriented, but after 5 years of consulting came to realize the importance |
| [19:06:50] | juski: | when you get paid for it it's different |
| [19:06:59] | Milosch: | oh sure ;) |
| [19:07:24] | Milosch: | problem is that the 'customer' for opensource has little patience at times |
| [19:07:40] | Milosch: | not fully appreciating the value of what they are getting |
| [19:07:42] | juski: | at times?! |
| [19:07:45] | Milosch: | heh |
| [19:07:53] | Milosch: | some are less annoying... |
| [19:07:54] | juski: | I have a theory about that |
| [19:08:11] | juski: | too many users see all software as 'free' anyway. I mean they don't pay for it, a lot of them do they? |
| [19:08:29] | Milosch: | right, another obstacle for a paid consultant as well... |
| [19:08:44] | Milosch: | "I am not going to assist you in stealing XYZ." |
| [19:08:47] | esperegu: | how can I watch the currently recording program? |
| [19:08:58] | juski: | esperegu: watch recordings, maybe |
| [19:09:15] | juski: | this is something else that'd test the patience of a saint... |
| [19:09:24] | esperegu: | it's not there. mythtv says: select it from the playback menu |
| [19:10:00] | esperegu: | but wtf is that =) |
| [19:10:14] | rippz: | hmprf |
| [19:10:22] | rippz: | I want to reinstall MythTV completly on Ubuntu |
| [19:10:26] | rippz: | but everytime I run the setup |
| [19:10:30] | Milosch: | esperegu: probably the filter which by default does not show livetv |
| [19:10:30] | rippz: | it runs with old settings |
| [19:10:35] | Milosch: | it is configurable |
| [19:10:37] | rippz: | I need to resetup the database and stuff |
| [19:10:53] | rippz: | does anybody know how I can force a complete reconfigure |
| [19:11:01] | esperegu: | Milosch: I chose default. should I select liveTV? |
| [19:11:22] | Milosch: | esperegu: that at least, but there is also a config to show livetv in default |
| [19:11:27] | Milosch: | iirc |
| [19:12:07] | Milosch: | rippz: not any different from another app using mysql, drop the db, create the db, grant perms to a user, and go |
| [19:12:35] | Milosch: | mythtv 'should' setup the tables itself, unless i suffered a major bf |
| [19:12:51] | rippz: | ill check it out |
| [19:13:08] | rippz: | im just using linux since yesterday now |
| [19:13:14] | Milosch: | ah ok |
| [19:13:18] | rippz: | so im having alot of first user troubles :-) |
| [19:13:32] | Milosch: | linpeople might be better for more generic things, then there should be channels for mysql, etc |
| [19:13:32] | rippz: | hm |
| [19:13:49] | rippz: | the database is there, and the mythtv user haves got access to it |
| [19:13:53] | esperegu: | Fatal error: Call to undefined function: save() in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/tv/detail.php on line 146 |
| [19:14:01] | rippz: | i think you suffer a major bf then :D |
| [19:14:20] | Milosch: | rippz: but the existence of the db is most likely your problem |
| [19:14:27] | Milosch: | you wanted to start fresh |
| [19:14:31] | rippz: | yeah for sure |
| [19:14:40] | rippz: | dropped the database |
| [19:14:46] | rippz: | should I also get rid of mythtv mysql users? |
| [19:15:06] | Milosch: | not necessarily, just grant access |
| [19:15:27] | Milosch: | but why not be thorough and reload the machine ;0 |
| [19:16:17] | kormoc: | esperegu, svn,mythtv.org create a ticket |
| [19:16:47] | Milosch: | svn of mythweb not working for me at all due to some protocol detection issue |
| [19:16:54] | Milosch: | but i haven't spent much time on it |
| [19:17:06] | kormoc: | Milosch, with trunk mythtv? |
| [19:17:14] | Milosch: | yes |
| [19:17:22] | kormoc: | which version? |
| [19:17:51] | rippz: | It does not seem to fill the database, or create the database |
| [19:18:04] | Milosch: | 0.20.20070124–1, 12672M |
| [19:18:13] | kormoc: | huh |
| [19:18:17] | Milosch: | that's from backend |
| [19:18:46] | kormoc: | I'm running 12500 backend and lastest mythweb fine, might have been a proto bump |
| [19:19:35] | Milosch: | nm, it is working again – weird |
| [19:19:56] | Milosch: | had some issues with mythcommflag, now that that is disabled everyone is happy |
| [19:20:41] | Milosch: | i.e. when it runs, backend ramped up to 1.5G resident memory usage |
| [19:21:02] | Milosch: | so the backend was screwed until it was restarted |
| [19:28:39] | esperegu: | dammit... how can you watch a currently running recording? :-D |
| [19:28:51] | GreyFoxx: | Go into Watch Recordings |
| [19:29:49] | esperegu: | it's not there :-( |
| [19:29:58] | rippz: | This is weird... it first says Unable to connect to database, then it says access denied... while access is fully granted ;s |
| [19:30:48] | esperegu: | GreyFoxx: do you need to configure something special? |
| [19:31:01] | GreyFoxx: | Nope |
| [19:31:49] | esperegu: | no special options when activating the recordL |
| [19:31:51] | esperegu: | ? |
| [19:32:02] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [19:32:15] | GreyFoxx: | So, you have a recording in progress and just want to view it ? |
| [19:32:24] | GreyFoxx: | In Watch recordings, you don't have it listed ? |
| [19:33:54] | Fony_Vaio: | weird, i have one chan that skips very slightly every now and again... not happening on other chans from what i've seen so far. probably a signal strength issue? |
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| [19:41:04] | juski: | Fony_Vaio: more than likely |
| [19:41:30] | juski: | my guess is that it's not a BBC channel either – it'll be one on a qam64 mux |
| [19:41:55] | juski: | with qam64 they can cram more streams in with less error correction |
| [19:42:09] | juski: | good eh |
| [19:42:45] | juski: | though all kinds of things can cause freeview problems. lightswitches, scooters outside, hairdryers.... |
| [19:42:56] | juski: | even rain in some places! |
| [19:43:35] | juski: | upgrading your aerial cable to CT100 or better grade can help – it has more overall screening to prevent interference getting into the cable |
| [19:44:20] | juski: | infact the old fashioned TV coax we used in the UK for years is pretty much useless for digital |
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| [19:44:55] | juski: | what would show up as one or 2 lines on analogue tv can wipe out enough data to make dvb-t throw a wobbler |
| [19:45:08] | juski: | digital != quality |
| [19:45:14] | juski: | </sermon> |
| [19:45:20] | ** Milosch faints ** | |
| [19:46:23] | ** onewheelskyward catches Milosch ** | |
| [19:46:32] | Milosch: | whew, thanks |
| [19:46:48] | juski: | IMHO digital TV can't hold a candle to well set up analogue systems but with digital at least we get more channels & true widescreen :) |
| [19:47:09] | rippz: | "Couldn't find theme G.A.N.T. RecordFilePrefix is not set?" |
| [19:47:25] | rippz: | just exists after that i couldnt even get to set it up yet :P |
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| [19:51:47] | juski: | bah I just don't understand this svn business |
| [19:52:32] | juski: | the quickstart docs had me create a structure in /tmp then import it |
| [19:52:35] | juski: | easy peasy |
| [19:52:40] | rippz: | I hardly understand anything of this |
| [19:52:48] | rippz: | :D |
| [19:53:09] | juski: | ahh I know what I did wrong :) |
| [19:56:23] | rippz: | Is "fetch channels from listings source" supposed to work |
| [19:57:48] | juski: | depends on whether or not your listings source supports it |
| [19:58:08] | juski: | are you just randomly stabbing around in the dark or are you working from a document? |
| [19:58:42] | rippz: | i already worked from 3 guides |
| [19:58:45] | rippz: | they didnt work out |
| [19:58:54] | rippz: | so i combine them and my limited knowledge and just try again :> |
| [19:58:59] | juski: | rippz: do you use zap2it ? |
| [19:59:05] | rippz: | no |
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| [19:59:15] | Milosch: | i think he is in the netherlands? |
| [19:59:23] | xris: | juski: it's usually pretty easy. you import, then you check out what you just imported. |
| [19:59:24] | juski: | don't use 'fetch channels from listings source' then |
| [19:59:39] | juski: | xris: but I don't want to start from scratch |
| [20:00:00] | juski: | maybe there's a gui thing for this |
| [20:00:07] | Milosch: | juski: are you just randomly stabbing around in the dark or are you working from a document? ;) |
| [20:00:10] | ** Milosch ducks ** | |
| [20:00:17] | rippz: | juski: i believe it worked tho |
| [20:00:37] | juski: | Milosch: shut up |
| [20:01:01] | juski: | I'm reading the manual & not understanding it |
| [20:01:03] | Milosch: | har har |
| [20:01:29] | juski: | not some 'this is how I installored mythtv or somethink' on John Doe's blog page |
| [20:01:30] | Milosch: | utfm |
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| [20:01:56] | xris: | juski: what do you mean start from scratch? |
| [20:02:50] | juski: | well I mean if I check out a blank repository into a working theme dir.. what'll happen? |
| [20:02:51] | xris: | juski: generally, you just use svnadmin to create the repo (in /var/svn or /var/lib/svn), and then you start importing data to it. |
| [20:03:13] | Fony_Vaio: | i'm going to start recommending all my mce friends to try out myth, this is greate |
| [20:03:16] | Fony_Vaio: | *great |
| [20:03:20] | juski: | for now I'd like a GUI thingy so I can get the hang of it |
| [20:03:45] | xris: | the general process is (creat repo) (import existing data) (check out and VERIFY copy of recently-imported data) (delete original non-svn-checkout version of original data) |
| [20:04:45] | juski: | I have most space in my home dir, so I'll put my repos there |
| [20:06:13] | drakinwow: | has anyone expirienced problems with MySql on FC 5? |
| [20:06:29] | drakinwow: | I seem to be hitting a road block with the .sock file... |
| [20:06:36] | xris: | juski: ok. odd, but understandable |
| [20:07:26] | drakinwow: | I've done everything from re permissioning the file to vi'n it |
| [20:07:57] | xris: | drakinwow: what's the actual error? |
| [20:09:07] | juski: | xris: /dev/hda3 460037228 5614912 431053768 2% /home |
| [20:09:37] | xris: | ah.. you're one of those weird people who puts /home on its own partition. |
| [20:09:50] | xris: | I like to stick with "global data in global directories", too. |
| [20:09:57] | xris: | but my svn repo is web accessible, etc. |
| [20:10:40] | outlier: | Stupid question maybe, but how do I tell mythvideo what host the files are on? |
| [20:11:22] | kormoc: | you don't |
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| [20:11:48] | outlier: | They have to be on the front-end? |
| [20:11:51] | kormoc: | yes |
| [20:12:17] | kormoc: | you can mount them locally over NFS or samba, but yes, they need to at least pretend to be local |
| [20:12:47] | outlier: | But not with tv recordings – just dvd's and such, right? Otherwise, what's the point of having a backend at all? |
| [20:12:48] | rippz: | I think it almost works :D |
| [20:13:03] | kormoc: | outlier, correct, just for the plugin mythvideo |
| [20:13:14] | rippz: | nooo it doesnt ^_^ |
| [20:13:23] | juski: | and mythmusic and mythgallery, if you want commonality |
| [20:13:33] | kormoc: | outlier, plugins are frontend only, hence why it can't stream or simialr (yet) |
| [20:14:11] | outlier: | That needs work. I can't think why anybody would want their video collection sitting on every front-end instead of a central archive. |
| [20:14:13] | juski: | dunno if anybody has ever asked this.. the upnp server is one thing but is there ever likely to be a upnp client plugin? |
| [20:14:24] | Milosch: | juski: i just tried this, ran svnadmin then failed on an import |
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| [20:15:01] | outlier: | Is there any preference between nfs or samba? |
| [20:15:10] | juski: | outlier: with shares you *don't* need your video collection sitting on every frontend, that's the point of a share;) |
| [20:15:21] | juski: | nfs beats samba hands down |
| [20:15:36] | kormoc: | outlier, mine sits centralized and I use NFS for my frontend to get to it. Feel free to sumbit patches if you would like it better |
| [20:16:30] | outlier: | Would If I could. Just seems like the TV functions already have it handled, too bad the other plugins can't ride along. |
| [20:16:45] | juski: | as if it's that easy |
| [20:16:45] | xris: | juski: client for what? I know that the frontend will be moving to upnp config |
| [20:17:10] | juski: | xris: to play stuff from oh I dunno.. other upnp servers on the network perhaps? |
| [20:17:36] | xris: | I assume someone will end up writing a plugin to do it |
| [20:17:54] | juski: | was just idly wondering, is all ;) |
| [20:18:27] | juski: | I decided last night, after tripping over another pile of CDs that we need networked music players in this house |
| [20:18:39] | juski: | wanna listen to a cd, find the case only the cd isn't in it |
| [20:18:48] | juski: | or it's the wrong disc |
| [20:19:09] | outlier: | juski – or the kids have 'borrowed' it and rendered it into a coaster. |
| [20:19:40] | outlier: | it's what got me interested in myth to start with. |
| [20:19:50] | juski: | I need to clone myself so he (the clone) can get a shuffle on ripping all my cds again, tagging em right, then making some good mockups of how mythmusic could work better |
| [20:20:05] | xris: | heh |
| [20:20:14] | xris: | mythmusic definitely needs help. |
| [20:20:17] | juski: | I know I have better things to do that neon-wide but it keeps calling out to me |
| [20:20:21] | xris: | streaming from the backend would be the biggest thing, imho |
| [20:20:22] | juski: | s/that/than |
| [20:20:55] | xris: | outlier: fyi, people are talking about stuff like video streaming from the backend, etc. just not enough manpower at the moment to get a lot of it done. |
| [20:21:03] | juski: | takes all of 5 mins to set up an nfs share |
| [20:21:04] | outlier: | Just in principle, couldn't you stream from the backend and export X to the frontend? |
| [20:21:14] | juski: | what's the big deal in that? |
| [20:21:36] | juski: | outlier: not really |
| [20:21:51] | juski: | outlier: try watching fullscreen video over a VNC session to get an idea |
| [20:22:16] | outlier: | I gather the video accelleration doesn't happen then? |
| [20:22:25] | juski: | if I could remember how to op myself I'd kick you slowone. read your IRC ettiquette |
| [20:22:36] | juski: | outlier: nope |
| [20:22:48] | slowone: | huh? |
| [20:22:51] | slowone: | sorry @.@ |
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| [20:23:39] | juski: | few things annoy me more than uninvited random msgs |
| [20:24:59] | outlier: | I was thinking more of audio, rather than video streaming. Backend has enough to do without decoding for multiple front-ends, I think. |
| [20:25:26] | juski: | streaming audio is pretty easy |
| [20:25:30] | WZ__: | anyone using diseqc switches with their setup? |
| [20:29:30] | xris: | juski: I never understood that, as long as it's a legit message and not spam. if the person gets annoying, I just /ignore. heh |
| [20:31:04] | juski: | I don't do 1:1 help in private.. doesn't pay & doesn't benefit anybody. this wasn't asking for help but I dunno it always pisses me off when I get msgs from people I don't know |
| [20:32:01] | outlier: | juski – thanks for the nfs recommendation. Works like a charm. Looks like I can even get a MSWindows client if I want, so there's no downside really. |
| [20:33:27] | Milosch: | actually, it works now (svn) |
| [20:34:21] | onewheelskyward: | I'm waiting for a scanner that can scan a CD like a sheet of paper, and losslessly glean the data from it. |
| [20:34:55] | onewheelskyward: | That would save me a lot of time ripping CD's. :) |
| [20:34:55] | juski: | onewheelskyward: good luck with that |
| [20:35:17] | juski: | be cheaper to pay some guy to do it for you |
| [20:37:59] | rippz: | cardinput table: cardinputid, cardid, sourceid, name || 1,0,0,<NOTHING> |
| [20:38:06] | rippz: | is it safe to delete that entry in mysql |
| [20:43:49] | juski: | eek. just done some counting. neon-wide will be my 7th theme |
| [20:43:54] | juski: | the time is right for subversion |
| [20:44:46] | H00chster: | heh time fly's when umm you are having fun? heh |
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| [20:54:14] | GreyFoxx: | Any of you firewire recording people around ?:) |
| [20:57:57] | xris: | I am.. but I'm nowhere near my mythbox |
| [20:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | A coworker of mine got a new HD DVR box from his cable provider, it has 2 firewire outputs, and according to the paperwork he got he can record 2 channels (sdtv or hdtv) while watching a 3rd live |
| [20:59:18] | juski: | yay. my first ever home-made svn checkout :) |
| [20:59:27] | GreyFoxx: | So we wants to use that for recording to a mythbox |
| [20:59:34] | onewheelskyward: | juski: grats! |
| [20:59:41] | juski: | to /tmp of course |
| [20:59:48] | GreyFoxx: | but I've never heard anyone mention doing 2 recordings from the same firewire device over the same wire before |
| [20:59:52] | onewheelskyward: | It's always good to see source control implemented. It's a life saver. |
| [21:00:22] | juski: | maybe it's not using the same wire |
| [21:00:31] | juski: | same (fire) wire anyhow ;) |
| [21:00:34] | Milosch: | juski: fyi, the repository is easy to relocate, you inspired me to get mine going as well |
| [21:00:58] | GreyFoxx: | juski: There are 2 firewire outputs on it, so maybe each would be treated as a seperate box |
| [21:01:10] | GreyFoxx: | It even has a sataport in the back for an external harddrive |
| [21:01:26] | GreyFoxx: | he's bringing it into the office tomorrow so we can try to record from it :) |
| [21:01:52] | ** GreyFoxx goes to the wiki looking for firewire recording info ** | |
| [21:03:08] | onewheelskyward: | How interesting...I didn't realize perpendicular bit hard drives took a seek time penalty. |
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| [21:03:32] | xris: | GreyFoxx: wow. never heard of that. the firewire ports are usually just connected to a hub so you can daisy chain the box |
| [21:03:38] | Sovvy: | hey guys |
| [21:04:04] | GreyFoxx: | xris: Ok |
| [21:04:31] | GreyFoxx: | supposedly this box can do 2 recordings + 1 live,..,..... so I'm wondering how much I can pull from the box to record |
| [21:04:46] | GreyFoxx: | even if I could record 2 that would be sweet |
| [21:09:32] | juski: | I now have a worky svn repo of all my themes :) |
| [21:09:51] | juski: | just have to get into the habit of checking changes in |
| [21:10:31] | GreyFoxx: | ok |
| [21:10:56] | GreyFoxx: | I'm installing the libs and stuff now, then I'll recompile the backend here for firewire support and see tomorrow if I can get anything off it :) |
| [21:11:27] | GreyFoxx: | xris: Is there a recommended kernel version or anything? |
| [21:11:35] | juski: | time to say night night I think. and for some Shameless |
| [21:11:41] | juski: | g'night |
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| [21:15:08] | xris: | GreyFoxx: not that I know of |
| [21:15:20] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [21:15:36] | GreyFoxx: | this machine is running 2.6.16 so I was gonna update it to 2.6.19.2 anyway |
| [21:15:50] | xris: | I think my mythbox is 2.6.18 in fc5, so that should be fine |
| [21:17:04] | onewheelskyward: | 2.6.19.2 is AOK for myth. |
| [21:17:27] | onewheelskyward: | whoops, I'm running 2.6.19–1. |
| [21:22:34] | H00chster: | 2.6.19.2 is fine. |
| [21:23:02] | GreyFoxx: | I use it on my home stuff. I was mostly wondering about any kernel specific firewire problems :) |
| [21:23:34] | xris: | I haven't heard of any |
| [21:23:37] | H00chster: | understand, but would think the latter would have even more support |
| [21:23:56] | H00chster: | but firewire has been around for awhile so any 2.6 would prob be marvelous |
| [21:23:57] | GreyFoxx: | H00chster: doesn't mean it doesn't have any bugs which are what I'm looking to avoid :) |
| [21:24:44] | H00chster: | indeed GreyFoxx, I do understand that, but as said Firewire isn't a new technology so ideally should be fine, I do think if you use autofs type stuff that 2.6.18+ might break that |
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| [21:24:54] | H00chster: | but for hardware support of fw wouldn't think any issues |
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| [21:26:58] | GreyFoxx: | I know the hardware support is there, but bugs crop up all the time, and I always do my homework before updating :) |
| [21:27:16] | ** GreyFoxx heads home ** | |
| [21:27:18] | H00chster: | heh |
| [21:27:23] | H00chster: | bsafe |
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| [21:30:34] | s3cur17y: | Hey all |
| [21:30:58] | s3cur17y: | I have a question does anyone have a Remote that came with Intervideo? |
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| [22:00:51] | s3cur17y: | I have a question does anyone have a Remote that came with Intervideo? |
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| [22:19:17] | psofa: | has there been a protocol change since October or sth? |
| [22:19:25] | kormoc: | likely a few |
| [22:20:03] | psofa: | meh ill take the risk :P |
| [22:20:30] | hads: | Definitly a couple |
| [22:20:50] | hads: | There's been one since .20 was released |
| [22:20:53] | Fifth: | so if you buy a PVR150, is there an alternate way to setup remote control? Some sort of infared addon ? |
| [22:20:55] | monteslu: | anything that would change the way recordings are scheduled ? |
| [22:21:30] | Milosch: | Fifth: did it come with anything? |
| [22:21:45] | Milosch: | Fifth: not required, just wondering |
| [22:21:58] | Fifth: | Milosch, no PVR150 doesnt come with remote stuff. but Wondering if there's something out there someone's tried such as a USB infared or something |
| [22:22:14] | hads: | The MCE remotes are good |
| [22:22:15] | Milosch: | serial and usb are available for sure |
| [22:22:57] | Milosch: | mine came with my 500 so i didn't have to go shopping |
| [22:23:18] | Fifth: | cool the so the MCE remotes have some sort of infared plugin via usb or serail? |
| [22:23:20] | Fifth: | serial* |
| [22:23:37] | Fifth: | or do you already have to have an infared receiver of some sort? |
| [22:23:41] | Milosch: | well, mine came with a usb device which is a receiver/blaster |
| [22:23:47] | Fifth: | ah cool |
| [22:24:04] | Milosch: | whatever can be configured for use with lirc |
| [22:24:14] | Fifth: | nice |
| [22:24:55] | Fifth: | I currently just have the computer next to my other computers but figured I'd see about setting it up on the TV eventually.....how hard is the TV out stuff to do in Linux? |
| [22:25:44] | Milosch: | depends on the card, but nvidia cards seem to work well |
| [22:27:06] | Fifth: | cool |
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| [22:33:13] | Fifth: | Milosch, did you use nvtv? |
| [22:33:44] | Fifth: | Milosch, or just the nvidia x server settings? |
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| [22:40:47] | monteslu: | Fifth, my 99 dollar pvr150 came with a remote and it works fine with lircd |
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| [22:41:14] | monteslu: | i also picked up a second one for 54 bucks without a remote |
| [22:41:29] | Fifth: | cool |
| [22:41:35] | Fifth: | yah my $50 one didnt come with |
| [22:43:07] | monteslu: | The remote itself isn't that great though. the ir reciever is on a short wire, and it's not real sensitive. Also you have to really jam it into the jack for it to work |
| [22:43:42] | Fifth: | ah yah |
| [22:43:52] | Fifth: | well maybe i'll get myself an MCE remote or somethin |
| [22:44:46] | monteslu: | If I were to do it again, I might have gotten two cheap 150s and a decent serial ir receiver |
| [22:44:58] | monteslu: | then, just used a universal remote for it |
| [22:45:10] | Fifth: | ah, why serial vs. usb? |
| [22:45:25] | monteslu: | because I've got 2 serial ports doing nothing :) |
| [22:45:29] | Fifth: | ah lol |
| [22:45:31] | monteslu: | and they're dirt cheap |
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| [23:05:15] | AngryElf: | lsa |
| [23:22:06] | SlicerDicer-: | hey fryfrog you here? |
| [23:26:21] | jasoncohen01: | Anyone currently using Debian Etch (4.0) with an HDTV tuner? I'm currently using Sarge but I want to add an HDTV card and for that I need to upgrade. I was wondering if Etch is ready for primetime, considering they're getting ready to release the new stable. |
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| [23:27:01] | jduggan: | etch has been pretty stable for months |
| [23:27:24] | jduggan: | atleast from my experience |
| [23:27:38] | jasoncohen01: | jduggan: That's good to hear. |
| [23:28:34] | jasoncohen01: | It uses the 2.6.18 kernel so many HDTV drivers and the necessary DVB stuff should be available out of the box. I read that the Fusion 5 HDTV Lite should work out of the box with 2.6.17 on. |
| [23:29:12] | jasoncohen01: | jduggan: Did you have any issues upgrading from Sarge? |
| [23:30:48] | jduggan: | jasoncohen01: nope |
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| [23:45:10] | Bakefy: | Hello, I am trying to install MythTV and I am stuck on one part. I am using this website http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php |
| [23:45:41] | onewheelskyward: | Where are you stuck? |
| [23:45:43] | Bakefy: | I want to grant access rights to a user... I don't understand that completly. |
| [23:45:50] | onewheelskyward: | in MySQL? |
| [23:46:15] | Bakefy: | I guess... I am just typing what it tell me to into the terminal |
| [23:46:32] | Bakefy: | sorry, I am not super great with linux |
| [23:46:43] | onewheelskyward: | not a problem. Are you at the |
| [23:46:51] | onewheelskyward: | mysqladmin -u root password 'newpassword' bit? |
| [23:47:22] | Bakefy: | I changed the password |
| [23:47:40] | Bakefy: | I am on the "admin:x:106:garry,mythtv" part |
| [23:48:04] | onewheelskyward: | aah |
| [23:48:20] | Bakefy: | what should I type? |
| [23:48:24] | Bakefy: | not gary? |
| [23:48:30] | onewheelskyward: | So you're editing your groups file? |
| [23:48:42] | onewheelskyward: | No, not gary. Type mythtv on the lines you want mythtv to be a part of that group. |
| [23:48:48] | Bakefy: | do i need to open a groups text file first? |
| [23:48:48] | onewheelskyward: | So it breaks down like this: |
| [23:48:58] | onewheelskyward: | Yeah. You'll need to edit /etc/groups. |
| [23:49:16] | onewheelskyward: | Sorry, /etc/group. |
| [23:49:32] | onewheelskyward: | then the line breaks down like this: |
| [23:49:52] | Bakefy: | okay, i opend it with g edit |
| [23:50:23] | onewheelskyward: | You may want to add mythtv to admin, audio and anything cd related. |
| [23:50:33] | Bakefy: | oh okay! |
| [23:51:50] | Bakefy: | thanks onewheelskyward |
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| [23:53:15] | onewheelskyward: | np man |
| [23:54:08] | Bakefy: | when I went to setup, it said that mythtv could not connect to database |
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| [23:55:35] | Bakefy: | do you have any idea what I could have done wrong? |
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| [23:58:25] | onewheelskyward: | Ok. What happens when you run mysql -u root? |
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