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Wednesday, December 27th, 2006, 00:12 UTC

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defend:

whats the newest kernel out there for knoppmyth?

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LLyric:

defend: why not go read the website, slacker?

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defend:

i am just going to install the vanila kernel by hand its easyer

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defend:

lol

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LLyric:

Unless you want a live cd, just install a real distro, and use that, imho.

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H00chster:

is there a way to delete all the recordings at once? like all the live recordings it did? seems I have a lot from when it tested that didn't get deleted or created properly for that matter and now I have a lot of errors bout the file not existing, and I see what it is after in my recordings list

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WhiteRabit:

rm -rf ?

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H00chster:

that is all good and dandy if the files exist I am talking bout from the frontend gui heh. where it is showing lots of live recordings that I guess it tried to do but the files don't exist

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sunnyhours4130:

don't forget the / =P

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H00chster:

so I am having to goto each one and hitting d and selecting yes

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H00chster:

lol sunnyhours

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H00chster:

don't think I had a storage dir defined before so I am guessing that is why I have null recordings

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H00chster:

lol ya prob not, luckily I do know linux heh just don't know myth lmao

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sunnyhours4130:

yeah

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sunnyhours4130:

i'd suggest away from going to the directory and doing an rm. I think i did that a while ago, and now i have two recordings listed in myth, but they don't link to any file

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sunnyhours4130:

but i can't get their listings to go away in myth

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sunnyhours4130:

anyone here care to help me with lirc? It's the last thing i need to do on this myth box

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sunnyhours4130:

i'll paypal ya 10 bucks if you get it working =D

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H00chster:

k still learning myth so I am sure in time hopefully will figure out the bells and whistles heh played with it long ago but dvb support was kinda nill, now it seems to be much better so giving it a go again

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sunnyhours4130:

awesome, glad you're back

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H00chster:

heh, VDR is where my heart is lol but I love playing with new things, and love the looks of myth

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sunnyhours4130:

cool

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H00chster:

does anyone know if commercial flagging works well for North American stuff?

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sunnyhours4130:

i've never had much luck with it

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H00chster:

ohh well heh was hopeful lmao

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H00chster:

anyone else currently here use myth for dvb?

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H00chster:

basically trying to find out if we need to run that mythfilldatabase thing

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sunnyhours4130:

mythfilldatabase is pretty key

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sunnyhours4130:

make sure you have mythbackend running while you run filldatabase tho

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WhiteRabit:

sunny, what distribution?

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sunnyhours4130:

mandriva 2005

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WhiteRabit:

oh... *silent*

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sunnyhours4130:

downloaded lirc 0.8.0 and installed from source

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sunnyhours4130:

haha yeah

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WhiteRabit:

what type of remote?

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sunnyhours4130:

i was able to setserial, depmod, and run lircd. i try to do mode2 and don't see anything when i press buttons

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sunnyhours4130:

just some 10 dollar RCA universal

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WhiteRabit:

what kind of remote receiver

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WhiteRabit:

what happens if you try irrecord?

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sunnyhours4130:

haven't tried irrecord yet. let me find out what receiver I have. i bought it online.

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WhiteRabit:

thats important

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WhiteRabit:

you can't compile modules and whatnot without knowing what kind of receiver you have

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sunnyhours4130:

right

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sunnyhours4130:

got this one: http://www.irblaster.info/?gclid=CNC27La7sYkCFTBcFQod_AK9Vg

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sunnyhours4130:

serial port

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abarbaccia:

if i updated a file in mythtv sourcecode (a channel changer) how do i check in the changes?

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GreyFoxx:

You don't

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WhiteRabit:

ooh, i want that

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GreyFoxx:

you submit a patch

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abarbaccia:

GreyFoxx: alright – link?

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GreyFoxx:

svn.mythtv.org

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abarbaccia:

great

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abarbaccia:

thanks!

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sunnyhours4130:

WhiteRabit: I ran irrecord again and it times out (i get the 10 second no input thing)

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GreyFoxx:

create a ticket , attach the patch and explain what it's for :)

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sunnyhours4130:

i also built my own receiver from radio shack parts. not sure if that was working so i ordered the irrblaster one

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WhiteRabit:

yeah, i think i've given you all the info I have

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sunnyhours4130:

Well, thanks anyway =)

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WhiteRabit:

does an ir blaster act as a receiver too?

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sunnyhours4130:

yeah, i just got the receiver over. i think you can get a transceiver tho

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sunnyhours4130:

WhiteRabit: Do you currently having a remote working with lirc?

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IamEthos:

so how do I associate the names of channels with the numbers automatically

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sunnyhours4130:

Anyone want to make 10 bucks through paypal helping me set up lirc on mandriva?

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WhiteRabit:

no, i need a new receiver

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sunnyhours4130:

oh okay, did you ever have it working?

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WhiteRabit:

although it technically works on my ubuntu machine, all the remotye codes show up the same

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WhiteRabit:

and i seem to remember i have to make install after every reboot

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WhiteRabit:

hhaha

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sunnyhours4130:

heh heh

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sunnyhours4130:

i just read that mandriva comes with broken modules for lirc that have to be removed

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WhiteRabit:

aha

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sunnyhours4130:

i'll head over to that lirc and figure out how to remove them =)

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rexer:

mythtvfrontend > log 2>&1 shows a paticular error...

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rexer:

mythtv: could not connect to socket

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rexer:

what ahhh.. so echo "mythtv 6546/tcp >> /etc/services..

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rexer:

would that work?

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rexer:

i mythaswell try a reboot..

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sunnyhours4130:

you running mythbackend and frontend on same machine?

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atomjack:

i just reinstalled (upgrade) fedora on my frontend, and after setting everything up and recompiling myth from svn, when i try to start the frontend from the console it just logs me out. But, I can start the frontend just fine from my XP box in a VNC window (running vncserver on the frontend machine)

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toad-six:

hi all – i am in the process of changing my gentoo mythtv box into a ubuntu one – in the process i wiped my harddrive and lost the patched firmware for my nexus card – is this still necessary? if so, can somebody send me their .fw file?

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hhhjr:

Eve ppl, anyone know where I can get some info on setting up a nexus-s 2.3 with mythtv 20?

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atomjack:

ok does anyone have any idea why starting mythfrontend immediately logs me out of KDE? This only happens when trying to run it from the console (hooked up to my tv) – I can run it just fine from a VNC window from my XP box

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Z_Morek:

is it common to have a lack of audio in frontend on ubuntu?

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Z_Morek:

google hasn't come up with anything relevant to edgy

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defend:

FN~Z_Morek, no

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Z_Morek:

evrytime I fix something I break something...

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Z_Morek:

ugh

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jd86:

Z_Morek, you're not alone, but eventually it will all work... then you'll upgrade something and it all starts again :)

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defaultro:

hey folks, do you let mythtv change your Xorg resolution when watching different video formats?

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atomjack:

ugh, i wish i could figure out why trying to start the frontend keeps dying and logging me out of KDE! :(

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Z_Morek:

I swear... I don't think I"ll use ubuntu again...

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Z_Morek:

sudo is really really getting on my nerves...

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jd86:

why?

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Z_Morek:

well for the mostpart it's not working

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jd86:

sudo? how can it not work?

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Z_Morek:

I type "sudo ls"

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Z_Morek:

promps pass

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Z_Morek:

then goes immediately to another command line

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jd86:

do sudo su and then you should be left at a root command prompt

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Z_Morek:

nope

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Z_Morek:

still user commandline

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jd86:

...

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jd86:

not for me

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Z_Morek:

and now I can't even edit my configuration

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Z_Morek:

because I can't sudo into the files

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Z_Morek:

this is lovely

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jd86:

?

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jd86:

after you did the sudo su, do an id (with no sudo) and your not uid=0?

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Z_Morek:

nope

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jd86:

well I don't use ubuntu, but when I did that did what I wanted way back when.

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Z_Morek:

thing is sudo isn't allowing me to do anything

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Z_Morek:

sudo just isn't functioning

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defaultro:

hey guys, is there a fastforward feature in mythtv?

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atomjack:

oh sweet, fixed it. had to disable glx in xorg.conf. weird.

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jd86:

yeah, but I'm unsure of what "key" it is on keyboard, it should be on the mythtv.org site

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DVBMark:

FF and RW are the <> keys

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DVBMark:

by default

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Z_Morek:

I think commercial skip is zx

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DVBMark:

still working on that commercial skip thing heh

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DVBMark:

it seems to cut too early and then doesn't go quite far enough

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DVBMark:

but close heh

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jd86:

most of the time my commercial skipping works alright, some channels just don't work well

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DVBMark:

do you have to do anything to it to adjust it properly? are you in North America?

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jd86:

yeah i'm in U.S>

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DVBMark:

default settings?

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jd86:

i've had this install for _so_ long I could have changed it around

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DVBMark:

lmao

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jd86:

well I have been upgrading but same database/settings for a very long time

[03:32:12]

tripppy:

can i ask questions about knoppmyth here?

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jd86:

I think it depends some of how the channel you record does its commercials... every once in a while i somehow end up watching commercials for stuff for the commercial

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HaDAk:

Hello

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jd86:

Hello

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HaDAk:

How are ya?

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jd86:

alright, you?

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HaDAk:

decent. fighting with myth :X

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HaDAk:

if all is well, i may have just solved my problem. if not, i will grab a sharpie, draw a circle on the wall, and bash my head in the circle.

[03:37:01]

sohum:

can one use mythtv to serve pictures over a network?

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HaDAk:

sohum, to my knowledge, yes.

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sohum:

any special software required on the client?

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tcpsyn:

can anyone help me get mythstreamtv working? I'm running debian, and I've compiled ffmpeg and vlc with mp3lame support, but I still cant stream audio.

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GreyFoxx:

sohum: MythGallery just accesses them local to the frontend, most people just use samba/cifs/nfs to mount a remote share to the frontend

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jd86:

sohum, I believe there is a photo gallery option, and it requires the files to be accessible on the client, so something like nfs will do.

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jd86:

GreyFoxx, ah! you beat me to it

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hhhjr:

Eve ppl, anyone know where I can get some info on setting up a nexus-s 2.3 with mythtv 20?

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GreyFoxx:

All of my forntends for instance mount /data/photos from my backend

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GreyFoxx:

that same directory is also samba shared on my local network for my wife to access via windows

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GreyFoxx:

and if/when I get around to it the myth upnp server will support it too

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tripppy:

does anyone use XBMC as a frontend ?

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sohum:

this would be wonderful if i could get samba working

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sohum:

this i can't

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sohum:

what would be a quick and dirty solution?

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GreyFoxx:

Samba is prettydead simple to get running

[03:42:27]

sohum:

i beg to differ

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GreyFoxx:

At least on a network that doesn't use domain logins and all that

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GreyFoxx:

which most home users don't use

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sohum:

.ummm... no. i don't think we do

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HaDAk:

ugh – i'm retarded. what's the command to connect to my wireless in unix? :X

[03:43:06]

tripppy:

how do i rescan for channels once im running mythbackend?

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GreyFoxx:

sohum: Hold on a sec and I'll put up my smb.conf you can use as a reference

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sohum:

thanks

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GreyFoxx:

www.phaze.org/mythtv/smb.conf

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GreyFoxx:

That's what I use on my main fileserver/master backend here at the house

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sohum:

GreyFoxx: thanks

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GreyFoxx:

I don't bother with usernames or per pc permissions or anything here

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tripppy:

GreyFoxx, how do i rescan channels once mythbackend is running, IE; how do i stop mythbackend?

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sohum:

i'll see if that'll help

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GreyFoxx:

tripppy: kill PID ?

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tripppy:

GreyFoxx, im a noob., how i find out the PID of mythbackend?

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Z_Morek:

"pkill mythbackend"

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GreyFoxx:

brb, just doing windows updates on the wifes machine and it requires a reboot

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tripppy:

woot.

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Z_Morek:

the process list is done by "ps"

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tripppy:

thnx.

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Z_Morek:

check manfile for more instructions "man ps"

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tripppy:

just learnt another command in *nix

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Z_Morek:

tripppy: google is your friend

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Z_Morek:

that's how I've learned almost everything in bash

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Z_Morek:

irc channels can be flaky

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tcpsyn:

shit, thats how I learned to tie a tie.

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Z_Morek:

sometimes helpful, sometimes not

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tripppy:

yeah ok

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HaDAk:

anyone know how to connect to a wireless network in fluxbox? (knoppmyth)

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tripppy:

i usually use google and find heaps of sites. but i always follow them to a T and i fuckup somewhere

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tcpsyn:

depends on alot of things. You'd probably have better luck in a more linux related channel.

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HaDAk:

ok.

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HaDAk:

i'll just keep googling

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tripppy:

i got aressted for googling

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tcpsyn:

what, kiddie porn?

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tripppy:

no i was sitting outside a lingere store and i was 'googleing' the shoppers

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tripppy:

im only j/k

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Z_Morek:

...

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Z_Morek:

tripppy not to be intrusive but how old are you?

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Z_Morek:

because that sounds like a joke I mightve made a few years ago

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Z_Morek:

though I don't think I'm quite that punny now in college

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tripppy:

24

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tripppy:

im a joker. always

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tripppy:

in my spare time i make myself laugh

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tripppy:

at my grandma's funeral i thougth about simspsons instead of crying

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Z_Morek:

to each his own...

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Z_Morek:

:-P

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tripppy:

Z_Morek, i just did a ps as root and it didnt show mythbackend

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Z_Morek:

did you kill it?

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tripppy:

mmm. im running the mythstream script

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toad-six:

does anybody here use a nexus card? i'm wondering if it's still necessary to use a patched firmware, or if the one that comes w/ ubuntu edgy is good enough

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HaDAk:

hokay. this is driving me nuts now. :) where's my sharpie?

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defend:

grr

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HaDAk:

i can't get the blasted thing to scan for channels.

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HaDAk:

or rather, find channels when it scans

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defend:

i dont know how to explain how much ivtv makes me mad

[04:01:35]

defend:

i am getting unkown symbol all over the place in .91

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tripppy:

HaDAk, hvae u tried looking under your bed? i leave my sharpie there

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tripppy:

HaDAk, have you added the right TV card type?

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tripppy:

do i need to run mythsetup as root?

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Z_Morek:

I don't think so...

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tripppy:

ps shows bash and ps. so backend came down somehow

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tripppy:

np

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tripppy:

no

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Z_Morek:

I thought you killed it with pkill?

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tripppy:

no is wassnt on the ps list

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Z_Morek:

hmm

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Z_Morek:

did you configure it to start on boot?

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tripppy:

i dont know. i installed knoppmyth.

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Z_Morek:

I would assume it should be all preconfigured...

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tripppy:

so yes its prolly on startup

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Z_Morek:

is there anything on the mythtv wiki on knopp that can help ya?

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HaDAk:

tripppy, sorry. was reading a forum post.

[04:11:22]

HaDAk:

here's what i've gotten so far:

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HaDAk:

tuner works. sound works. internet...worked for a minute, now i can't figure out now to connect again.

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HaDAk:

i don't have any channels, and when i scan for them, it doesn't add any.

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HaDAk:

so if i watch live tv, i get static.

[04:12:04]

HaDAk:

which brings up another problem – my remote isn't working.

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HaDAk:

so i have two issues: remote and channels.

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tripppy:

remote is secondary

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HaDAk:

yeah, i'm most worried about being able to watch tv, then about controling it.

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tripppy:

have u had it working? the picture and sound b4?

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HaDAk:

nopers.

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tripppy:

what antenna u sing?

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HaDAk:

i bought the wrong card before (read: wintv go plus)

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HaDAk:

i'm jacked into the cable

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tripppy:

ok.

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tripppy:

you got the right card selected?

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HaDAk:

it's standard cable. not digital.

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HaDAk:

well, i am assuming i do – i get colorful static playback

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tripppy:

when u scan for channels does it take its bloody time?

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HaDAk:

it takes a good 20–30 seconds

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HaDAk:

if that

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HaDAk:

for the record, we're dealing with a pvr-150

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HaDAk:

i have it set to mpeg with tuner1 as input

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HaDAk:

and my video source set to pvr-150–1

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defend:

wow why is this kernel not installing cx2341x driver

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HaDAk:

any ideas on how to get some channels?

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GreyFoxx:

HaDAk: So you have a pvr card connected directly to your cable from the cable company ?

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HaDAk:

yes

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GreyFoxx:

And you are in North America ?

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HaDAk:

yup

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HaDAk:

connected to comcast

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GreyFoxx:

You don't need to scan for channels

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GreyFoxx:

setup a zap2it account

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HaDAk:

oh?

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HaDAk:

i did.

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GreyFoxx:

place your login info in mythtv-setup

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HaDAk:

problem with that is being able to get online.

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GreyFoxx:

attache the video source to the card

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GreyFoxx:

and run mythfilldatabase

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GreyFoxx:

it sucks down channel and programming info

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HaDAk:

which i'm only able to get online via wireless.

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Z_Morek:

ouch

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GreyFoxx:

Via wireless what ? Your own local wireless AP ?

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HaDAk:

yes

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GreyFoxx:

Then what is the problem ?

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HaDAk:

erm.

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HaDAk:

i can't connect to the wireless.

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HaDAk:

i don't know *how*

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HaDAk:

:(

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GreyFoxx:

Look for a wiki/docs from your distro, or just google for info :)

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defend:

run a network cable to the router ;p

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defend:

or get a router

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HaDAk:

router is two floors up

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HaDAk:

>.<

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defend:

oh

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HaDAk:

not an option

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defend:

haha

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Z_Morek:

google

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defend:

suxs

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HaDAk:

yeah, well, i found iwconfig

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HaDAk:

but

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HaDAk:

after i put in all the information, it said it was connected.

[04:24:18]

HaDAk:

i didn't have an ip.

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Z_Morek:

anyone aware of sound issues with frontend in ubuntu edgy?

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GreyFoxx:

HaDAk: Connecting to the AP is just one part

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tripppy:

Z_Morek, i can;'t pkill mythbackend. ps -e shows mythbackend but i will not die.

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GreyFoxx:

you then have to either assign a static IP, or DHCP

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GreyFoxx:

FYI, if you are running a "server" it really should have astatic IP

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defend:

FN~Z_Morek, no for a secound time

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HaDAk:

GreyFoxx: true.

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GreyFoxx:

hardcode one from outside of your DHCP range

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defend:

a little info would help tho

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Z_Morek:

defend: I'm just curious if anyone else knows...

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HaDAk:

GreyFoxx: i'm familiar – just uncertain of how to do all this thru commandline.

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Z_Morek:

tripppy: run "ps -e | grep myth" what's there?

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defend:

wow i got ivtv finaly

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defend:

now i need to get this silly nvidia driver to install then i will be happy

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defend:

haha

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GreyFoxx:

)

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defend:

blah

[04:27:49]

defend:

lol

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defend:

luck had to end in such a hurry

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defend:

lol

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Z_Morek:

defend: if it makes a difference the ubuntu login sounds play but mythfrontend won't play audio from either recordings or tv

[04:29:07]

defend:

hmm

[04:29:09]

Z_Morek:

I tried alsamixer and tinkering but no luck

[04:29:13]

defend:

does mplayer work?

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Z_Morek:

actually. no

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defend:

with out extra switches

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defend:

do you have more than one sound card?

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Z_Morek:

just an onboard

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defend:

are you using alsa?

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Z_Morek:

I think so...

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defend:

what happens when you try alsa?

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Z_Morek:

lost me...

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defend:

i mean when you try alsamixer

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defend:

sorry

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Z_Morek:

I go in... I make sure volumes are up and not muted

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defend:

it shows devices and stuff?

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Z_Morek:

yup

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HaDAk:

alright. so i assigned an IP address. i can ping my router.

[04:32:04]

HaDAk:

i can not, however, ping google.

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HaDAk:

what a pisser.

[04:32:32]

defend:

do this

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defend:

cat /proc/bus/input/devices

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defend:

and put the out put in a pastebin

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HaDAk:

defend: me?

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defend:

no sorry i was talking to z_morek

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HaDAk:

ah, ok.

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defend:

hadax what distro

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HaDAk:

knoppmyth.

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HaDAk:

which is...debian.

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Z_Morek:

http://pastebin.ca/293071

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defend:

do cat /etc/resolv.conf

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Z_Morek:

I had problems with knopp WAY back so I never used it

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defend:

do you have a nameserver entry

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HaDAk:

i don't know?

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defend:

morek it doesnt seem to see your audio card

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HaDAk:

i connected to the network, assigned myself an IP address. i can ping my router, but i can't get out

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Z_Morek:

yet ubuntu login sounds played...

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defend:

morek do lspci in a pastebin for me

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defend:

hadak do this from the command line

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defend:

cat /etc/resolv.conf

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Z_Morek:

http://pastebin.ca/293072

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defend:

does it print something saying like nameser and an ip?

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HaDAk:

my nameserver resolves to my wan ip

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HaDAk:

which is good.

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HaDAk:

but i still can't ping google :(

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defend:

you dont want the nameserver to be your machines ip

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defend:

it probly should be the ip of your router

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HaDAk:

my namesever is my WAN ip

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HaDAk:

ie, comcast's given IP

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HaDAk:

not my routers.

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defend:

z_morek it doesnt show any sound card in that is the sound coming through the speakers or through the pc speaker?

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defend:

hadak i think you realy want your router ip in there

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defend:

try

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defend:

hadak try nslookup google.com <wan ip>

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defend:

see if it can resolve google

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HaDAk:

command not found :(

[04:41:03]

defend:

hmm

[04:41:14]

defend:

try ping 38.113.5.165

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defend:

see if you can even get out side

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HaDAk:

no.

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HaDAk:

network is unreachable.

[04:42:09]

defend:

does your router use wep?

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defend:

try traceroute 38.113.5.165

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defend:

see where it fails

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HaDAk:

bah, idfk

[04:43:35]

HaDAk:

it just....dies.

[04:43:38]

HaDAk:

instantly.

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Z_Morek:

defend: I believe it came thru the tv...

[04:43:49]

Z_Morek:

i turned off the login-logout

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Z_Morek:

sounds...

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defend:

ahh

[04:45:03]

defend:

hmm

[04:45:10]

defend:

dont know how that works

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defend:

lol

[04:45:14]

Z_Morek:

I just want to apt-get this all away

[04:45:18]

HaDAk:

ok. so lemme try this.

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HaDAk:

gigabit to gigabit...i'll share my connection from one to another

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HaDAk:

fair enough, right?

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defend:

morek try cat /dev/random /dev/dsp

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defend:

are they local or outside hadak

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Z_Morek:

no funny sounds...

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HaDAk:

huh?

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HaDAk:

you know. maybe i should give it a rest, and get some sleep. i've got to be up in a couple hours for work.

[04:47:23]

HaDAk:

i suppose i could work on this tomorrow.

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defend:

hmm

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HaDAk:

thanks for yer help guys

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defend:

i dont think it is reconizing your sound card morek

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defend:

:/

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Z_Morek:

to synaptic!

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defend:

lol

[04:49:57]

defend:

also #ubuntu has a chan on this network they might be more knowledgeable or have some ideas

[04:51:28]

Z_Morek:

my attempts to get attention go unnoticed

[04:51:31]

Z_Morek:

that place is a zoo

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defend:

ya it is

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defend:

lol

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Z_Morek:

well... it's a permissions issue

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Z_Morek:

I've discovered that much

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Z_Morek:

noone in ubuntu will respond at this point...

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tripppy:

Z_Morek, how did you reinstall go?

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Z_Morek:

reinstall?

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Z_Morek:

sudo was broken VIA /etc/sudoers misconfigured

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Z_Morek:

fixed it...

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Z_Morek:

then sound wasn't working

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Z_Morek:

so I tooled around a lot

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Z_Morek:

found a guide online

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Z_Morek:

added my soundcard

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Z_Morek:

added users to the "audio" group... and now I'm watching a mythbusters recording :-)

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Z_Morek:

still gotta fix lirc but that's an issue for another day

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Z_Morek:

peace all

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Z_Morek:

and tripppy good luck on navigating bash

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sigger_:

oh my mencoder sure can take its sweet time

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DVBMark:

anyone using the opengl capability of nvidia drivers and xvmc?

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kormoc:

I do

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DVBMark:

is it stable?

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kormoc:

sure

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DVBMark:

all you do is just enable that one command line in the configure statement in myth right?

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DVBMark:

was just curious about trying it to see how it does with hd stuff

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kormoc:

well, the opengl one and the xvmc one, sure

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kormoc:

you do know that opengl is only used for the frontend menus, and only for a fade affect, right?

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DVBMark:

I assume the opengl support AND the opengl vsync?

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kormoc:

you need to enable the xvmc one as well

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DVBMark:

ya just curious if it will do better with the osd and such and not cause the stutter while osd is up and tv is going

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kormoc:

it can, aye

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DVBMark:

right on xvmc, the --enable-opengl --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-xvmc

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kormoc:

XvMC offloads some of the video decoding to the gpu, so it can help if it's a cpu speed issue

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DVBMark:

that is --enable-xvmc-opengl

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DVBMark:

well cpu isn't topped out by any means just want to see if it does better

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DVBMark:

new to all this and trying to make it the best I can of course

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DVBMark:

still gotta figure out my xorg.conf stuff as well heh

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toad-six:

anybody here use a nexus card? is it necessary to use a patched firmware?

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DVBMark:

if you are in the US toad-six then I would think so! :)

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kormoc:

DVBMark, huh? why would you say that?

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DVBMark:

thanks kormoc, compiling now, do I need to set that in the frontend setup as well?

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DVBMark:

say what about the nexus?

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kormoc:

yes, you'll need to have the frontend use XvMC as the mpeg decoder lib

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kormoc:

DVBMark, aye, about the nexus

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DVBMark:

right but thought I remembered something bout the osd and setting opengl instead of qt

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kormoc:

DVBMark, opengl isn't used for the OSD, it's only used to get a fade affect between menus

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DVBMark:

on the nexus, the firmware is adding support for ntsc as far I am aware

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DVBMark:

thought it already faded

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DVBMark:

maybe it does it more

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DVBMark:

guess will see

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kormoc:

qt as the painter just switched, opengl fades, that's the only thing opengl frontend painter gives

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DVBMark:

all still greek to me but hopefully it will make more sense once it is done

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DVBMark:

any recommendations on my xorg.conf?

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kusznir:

I've got a Myth power-saving question: There's a setting "Max wait for a recording (min)" that is intended to prevent the myth system from shutting down automatically if there is a recording that will occur within that time bracket. My question is will the myth say powered on that long, and if a recording hasn't started by the end of its wait, turn off; or will it look that far ahead in its scheduler, and if nothing is schedlule

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kusznir:

d to start in that time, turn off?

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DVBMark:

currently running a 6200

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DVBMark:

but have a 5750 on its way

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DVBMark:

k I am assuming it isn't working heh, I set the vsync to opengl, and I got lots of white vertical lines on the screen and it is real jittery heh, unless there is a xorg.conf setting I need to do as well?

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JoeyJoeJo:

do any of those HDTV cards that capture over the air signals work in Myth?

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Zider:

I guess if they work in linux they work in mythtv

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kormoc:

JoeyJoeJo, nope, none of the cards listed on linuxtv.org ( http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_cards ) work at all... nopers... not a single one...

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mcquaid:

hello, the backend for me is pretty rock solid, only crashed once in about 2 months of use. but the frontend crashes several times a week

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mcquaid:

or it times out launching live tv

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mcquaid:

the box only has 128 megs, (p4 1.6) what's the minimum ram for myth?

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JoeyJoeJo:

kormoc: thanks, I won't get one of them

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mcquaid:

this is using .20 on ubuntu dapper. just want to get an idea how stable the frontend is for others

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kormoc:

JoeyJoeJo, but really now, googling 'atsc mythtv' has tons of hits, the first one being myth's own website

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Zider:

mcquaid: my myhbox currently use around 270MB RAM

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mcquaid:

hmm maybe that's it then

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mcquaid:

but other times, it'll work fine.

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kormoc:

mcquaid, my box has 256 megs of ram, and 256 megs of swap, and it's using all of it, but is stableish for the most part

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mcquaid:

then it starts getting sluggish, menu's take ages to come up etc

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mcquaid:

but after a reboot it's fine for a day or two

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kormoc:

that's very likely memory

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mcquaid:

ya i guess i should slap some ram in this old box

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dannyp_:

how is it crashing?

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mcquaid:

well, right now i launch a term from blackbox and then launch mythfront end from there

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mcquaid:

it'll drop back to the term when it crashes

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JoeyJoeJo:

is it important to have qam?

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mcquaid:

i'll take down the errors next time, but i think it's various errors like live tv not available (timed out) and some others

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mcquaid:

but dannyp regards to how, it's usually accessing a menu, or trying to launch livetv, once live tv is up it rarely crashes

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mcquaid:

the only consistent crash i've had is, if I am recording something and watch the live recording and ff too close to the end of the live stream, that'll trigger a crash dumping me back to the term

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Neeesat25:

Merry Christmas to all

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defaultro:

hi kormoc

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defaultro:

HappyNewYear

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defaultro:

i noticed that all my HEROES recording were only 54 minutes. But schedule was from 8 to 9. I don't have any recording set after HEROES. Can anyone explain?

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Neeesat25:

Anyone knows if Aver DVB-s is supported in linux?

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kormoc:

Neeesat25, linuxtv.org

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kormoc:

defaultro, mornin'. Marry Belated Christmas!

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defaultro:

:D

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defaultro:

Belated Christmas too

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Hausberg:

does anyone know how and when linuxtv drivers are included in a newer kernel?

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Dagmar:

How about "not" and "never".

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Bernardo:

when mchehab and linus agree they are stable

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Bernardo:

I've seen at least one merge in the 2.6.x kernel series

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Hausberg:

I am just wondering cause my DVB card is supported by linuxtv drivers and I am just thinking when I can stop using this and activate DVB for linux in kernel

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Bernardo:

I just had to install the v4l-dvb branch to try to trace a conflict between my two analogic cards

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Bernardo:

good morning

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kerzinger:

on mythtv restart I get the error: no /usr/mythtv running non killed

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kerzinger:

please help

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Bernardo:

kerzinger: check /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log (or something like that) to see why mythbackend isn't starting

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kerzinger:

Bernardo: thanks

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Bernardo:

also check the output of "ps ax | grep myth" to see if it really doesn't start

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Bernardo:

nshm: but the problem only manifests itself when I have both boards installed

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kerzinger:

Bernardo: thanks it worked

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Bernardo:

oops, wrong channel

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Bernardo:

kerzinger: there was info in the log?

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kerzinger:

Bernardo: our problem was again that the raid5 was not correctly mounted

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kerzinger:

Bernardo: I think we solved that now

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kerzinger:

Bernardo, the cron.daily script doesnt really run, after session managment error it hangs any ideas?

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kerzinger:

the problem is that mythfilldatabase hangs at : discarding two-channel sound flag at /usr/bin/tv_grab_de_tvtoday line 803.

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Neeesat25:

can MythVideo play vdr format files?

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Dagmar:

Neeesat25: Probably not, but you might get it to work if you make it use mplayer for playback, and failing that http://vdrsync.vdr-portal.de/ may help you with transcoding it out to something more vanilla

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Neeesat25:

Well I have a converting tool named Xproject who can convert my old vdr files to mpeg ones

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Neeesat25:

I prefer using internal player

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fatmatt:

woohoo, after 4 months of house renovations and a month of reloading software, my mythtv box is once again operational

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kerzinger:

how does mythfilldatabase call the xmltv (in my case tv_de_grab_tvtoday). it seems that it hangs? any ideas? thanks in advance

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Neeesat25:

mplayer shows some windows during start up

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fatmatt:

kerzinger, if you're running it from the mythtv-setup then alt-tab to see if its in a differtent window

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kerzinger:

no im running the cron daily script and it doesnt really finish

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kerzinger:

my mythfilldatabase hangs as well

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kerzinger:

fatmatt: see above

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fatmatt:

have you run the tv_grab script on its own?

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kerzinger:

yes i tried it said something with can't run only with configure

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kerzinger:

it runs now

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kerzinger:

i used --config-file

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kerzinger:

now it says grabbing

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kerzinger:

well and it hangs now

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fatmatt:

so the grabber is hanging?

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kerzinger:

it seems so

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kerzinger:

it shouldn't take that long, should it

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fatmatt:

maybe do a google on that script and check for alternatives... it does take some time depending on how much data it's grabbing

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kerzinger:

do you know if mythtv can operate solely on epg data?

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fatmatt:

used to be a few to several minutes for me befor the people running the server with the data made some changes....

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fatmatt:

as in the epg broadcast with the dvb signal? yes, there's a checkbox for it in the setup and it worked fine for me (but the tv channels in Oz generally don't put more than a day or so of data on it)

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kerzinger:

thanks man im away now ill be back later, btw where in oz are you?

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fatmatt:

kerzinger, Melbourne

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XATRIX:

hi....can anybody tell me something ? why there is 2 connectors on the rear panel of twinhan PCI dbv card ? LNB-IN LNB-OUT ?

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XATRIX:

what should i do with them ?

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juski:

well, one is to plug the LNB into (which is the thing mounted on the dish), and the other is a passthrough connector (which you shouldn't really use)

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juski:

a dish isn't like a regular antenna or cable connection – i.e. you can't just loop the wiring through to another device

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XATRIX:

juski> emm...can i use LNB-OUT to connect it to TV or reciever ?

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XATRIX:

directly

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juski:

no

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juski:

didn't you read the manual that comes with the card?

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XATRIX:

i have an OEM card, no documentation....i've tried to find it on the main twinhan webpage, but there i couldn't download it

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juski:

heh. the perils of buying OEM gear

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XATRIX:

:-)

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juski:

does it even work in linux?

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XATRIX:

there's no other way i have :)

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XATRIX:

yes

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XATRIX:

it's workin'

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pat_:

if it is like the twinhan dvb-t cards I have it'll be junk

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juski:

yeah I know someone who has a twinhan dvb-t card & he wouldn't recommend it to anybody

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XATRIX:

i have 2 dvb on my pc....skystar2 and twinhan...and now i try to make a choice between them :)

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XATRIX:

i'm currently need only dvb-s for the satellite TV

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pat_:

I'm seriously considering replacing both of them with a dvico dual tuner 2 card

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XATRIX:

:)

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pat_:

surely it won't be as crappy

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juski:

well, to have more than 1 dvb-s tuner you need a dual, triple or quad LNB

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juski:

and if you do that, it's one cable PER TUNER to EACH LNB

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XATRIX:

juski> i have a sat-dish with 3 LNB mounted on it....so, as i said before, i need to make a choice, what would be better skystar2 or twinhan

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juski:

I dunno, whichever works best for you

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juski:

I don't recommend hardware a) generally and b) that I don't have experience of

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XATRIX:

juski> i'm using the switch, i guess it's called "DiSEqC"

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XATRIX:

3 LNB, 2 DiSEqCs, and two cables, one for reciever and one for PC

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XATRIX:

are here any users how use skystar2 ?

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juski:

we don't get many users of dvb-s in here

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XATRIX:

juski> em, can you explain ? dvb-s ---- TV but dvb-t ----- Internet ?

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juski:

dvb-s == satellite, dvb-t == terrestrial (i.e. through an aerial), dvb-c == cable

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tripppy:

XATRIX, what model twinhan you got?

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XATRIX:

tripppy> TwinhanDTV Sat-Express

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XATRIX:

1025

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Dibblah:

XATRIX: Skystar2.

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tripppy:

it mythtv-setup what card do you use? DVB?

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Dibblah:

The Twinhan stuff may have improved, but those hardware designers were smoking something pretty strong at the time.

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XATRIX:

Dibblah> can i operate with 3 LNB through the DiSEqC with SkyStar2 ?

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Dibblah:

Yes.

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tripppy:

i have a twinhanDVB-t card 3020c im not too sure which device type to use...

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XATRIX:

Dibblah> how ? :) i heard that it supports only 2 LNB, with diseqc

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Dibblah:

It's a DVB card, so DVB may be a good choice ? ;)

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tripppy:

ok

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tripppy:

how do i utilise the webaccess to knoppmyth? its asking me for a user/pass. the ones i supplied are not working

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Dagmar:

You're supposed to read the docs so you know to set up the one for the webaccess.

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Dagmar:

So *kofkof* read the docs for mythweb, man

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Dagmar:

It takes all of 3 minutes

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juski:

the fuckers at nero.com. nero7 reloaded is $59.99 or 59.99EUR

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XATRIX:

Dibblah> are you shure that skystar2 can operate disecq ? i mean i have 3 LNB...

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juski:

bah. there was I, thinking "ooo, $59.99 for the full unlimited version fo Nero.. nice". pity I can't bloody buy it at that price in the UK. those bastards

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tripppy:

Dagmar, im connecting now – this is the error

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tripppy:

Error at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 105:

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tripppy:

fsockopen(): unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:6543

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juski:

hahaha "not available at your country" indeed. I don't think I'll bother even trying to buy anything from them

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tripppy:

and then more

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juski:

hey Max0 how did you get on?

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Max0:

hey i gave up last night, had a bit of no eventfull day working on my car then pc

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juski:

heh

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Max0:

got stuck on a seized bolt then the pc wouldnt work

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Max0:

:(

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XATRIX:

can anybody explain me, what does it mean "frontend" and "backend" ?

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juski:

that's what wd40 & blowtorches were invented for

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Max0:

tried that

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juski:

XATRIX: the docs explain it pretty well, if you bothered to read them

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Max0:

and a big hammer

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Max0:

going to have another try again today in the light so ill be back on tonight with the pc

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Max0:

thanks for your help by the way

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juski:

Max0: I was amazed to find, when I went to do my brakes, that the nuts & bolts had covers over em!

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juski:

zero rusticles :)

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Max0:

hehe the nut is off the bolt

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Max0:

the bolt is sized onto the shock

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juski:

might have to do some cutting & drilling then :(

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Max0:

yuh thats the last resort im gona try with a hammer n wack it lose

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juski:

that's why I try to never hang onto a car for much longer than 5 years old

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Max0:

this one is about 16

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Max0:

hehe

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Max0:

its all good fun tho

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juski:

course when you eventually fix it, put some lithium grease on there maybe

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Max0:

aiye ;)

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Max0:

its strange i get a lock on the stations on dvb tools

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Max0:

but it wont play

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Max0:

ill wounder over that when im attacking my car with a hammer

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Max0:

:D

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juski:

anyway XATRIX the frontend is the user interface & player. the backend does scheduling, recording, transcoding etc

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Dagmar:

Pfft.. You'll never see the odometer hit 300,000 miles with that attitude.

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Dagmar:

Drive them until the *wheels fall off*. Car repairs are almost never more expensive than a car payment.

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juski:

Max0: maybe do a test recording from tzap & cat /dev/dvb/dvr0 > test.mpg then upload the file & we'll see if we can play it

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juski:

Dagmar: unless you happen to own a Rover car ;)

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Dagmar:

What's a rover?

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Dagmar:

Surely you're not talking about the mars lander

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juski:

haha no

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juski:

a now defunct UK car manufacturer

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XATRIX:

juski> thanks...it is difficult for me, to understand some words...i'm from urkaine :) Crimea, Yalta

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Dagmar:

I'm driving a 10 year old BMW and it's repairs are still cheaper than payments on a cheap car

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juski:

they made expensive to run, expensive to repair (and difficult) rustbuckets

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Max0:

juski i will do later mate need to get the car sorted when there is some light left

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juski:

yeah good plan

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juski:

I need to wash & clean my car. it's a shite tip

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Dagmar:

juski: Ahh.. they should hve done like Yugo... to hell with maintenance--just keep the vending machine at the dealership stocked with fresh ones

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Max0:

thought id log on and just log some of chan to learn a bit more

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Max0:

bbiab

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Dagmar:

If it breaks down, you catch a cab to the dealership and stick two quarters in the machine, turn the crank, and a new one drops into the slot

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juski:

Max0: take heart in the fact that tzap gets a lock anyway

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Max0:

yeah, and its locking on freeview as well

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Max0:

anyways really need to the car sorted so will be back later

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juski:

jeees, it costs money to add poster images to imdb.com

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juski:

that sucks

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juski:

oh hell, they don't make it easy for members of the public to submit titles either. also sucky

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Igg-man:

Is there a way I could forward an entire mailbox file to another address?

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Igg-man:

A for loop, or something simliar might work

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GreyFoxx:

if you use mutt you could tag all the message and bounce them to the other one(not forward whcih changes the headers and such but bounce)

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janneg:

tag . tag-bounce

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Ruleke:

hmm I wonder if this "full featured" dvb-c card can really record HD content...

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Ruleke:

reading the spec it says things like "Maximum download MPEG-2 PES speed: 12 Mbit/s"

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neeesat25:

when I try to open my videos I get: *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x0839b360 ***

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neeesat25:

and mythfrontend crashes

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janneg:

Ruleke: I think it's the maximum rate of the mpeg decoder. three simultaneous recordings from one multiplex should exceed 12mbps

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neeesat25:

Anyone?

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Ruleke:

janneg: with decoder you mean the video output of the card ?

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Ruleke:

confusing indeed :/ http://shop.technotrend.de/images/specs/TechS . . . um_C2300.pdf

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Igg-man:

GreyFoxx: awesome. That would work though. I'll try it, thanks

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r3m0t:

is it possible to record Sky HD channels through mythtv? if so, what hardware is required?

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defend:

any one here using a fusionhdtv rt card by anychance?

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Fifth:

so I got a PVR150 for christmas rawr

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Fifth:

still have to install it

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Fifth:

haha

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HannesAThome:

hello, is anyone using the lirc harware from iguanaworks? does it work with the serial driver?

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SeaWeed:

is there any 1 around that use's ( Joffray's MythTV ) install script im new to Mythtv and getting Few error's on install

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SeaWeed:

Seem that there is 1 or 2 bad patch's conflitcing with the install

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buddyholy:

evening people....

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buddyholy:

would ne body have any idea what script builds the music_songs .sql table..

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DVBMark:

Anyone recommend a HD OTA Tuner, the HDHomerun or PCHDTV 5500? I kinda lean towards the HDHomerun cuz of external. Just wanted insight.

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janneg:

Ruleke: yes

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neeesat25:

Anyone knows how to fix this: *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x0839b350 ***?

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neeesat25:

This is happening when trying to view Videos

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janneg:

we need a full back trace to help you

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neeesat25:

thats all I got from debug

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janneg:

you need a debug build and start it from gdb

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fryfrog:

DVBMark: another card is the air2pc one

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fryfrog:

DVBMark: I'd say get which ever one you'd like, the HD homerun has two tuners I believe. But I think it also costs more than twice as much as 2x air2pc or hd5500 cards

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DVBMark:

fryfrog: thanks for the reply, main thing I was looking at is not taking up a PCI slot, so I like that advantage, ya it is pricey. One thing i didn't know is that HD Tuners can only recieve 1 channel at a time unlike regular OTA SD tuners. So the dual tuner does sound nice. Thanks again for the reply, just wanted to make sure all are a sound invenstment

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DVBMark:

still learning myth, so not quite ready for it just starting to read the manual heh, one of those, install first and run and then go back and read heh!

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HannesAThome:

is anyone using mythweb and the music part? can anyone tell me what happens if you klick on a file? do you download it then?

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GreyFoxx:

HannesAThome: When I click on the play icon I get a m3u file which my media player should use to play the file

[15:01:16]

HannesAThome:

GreyFoxx on the play icon or on the mp3 file itself?

[15:01:55]

HannesAThome:

because i do not have a play icon

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GreyFoxx:

the playicon

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GreyFoxx:

clicking the filename adds it to the playlist

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HannesAThome:

which version are you using? i do not have a play icon

[15:02:53]

GreyFoxx:

svn from a couple days ago

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HannesAThome:

ohh

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HannesAThome:

i use 0.20 with debian

[15:03:22]

HannesAThome:

is there anywhere a screenshot?

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GreyFoxx:

I never really looked at the music stuff back then

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GreyFoxx:

I can make one

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HannesAThome:

cool

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HannesAThome:

GreyFoxx you could send it by email or place it anywhere i could have a look. thank you very much

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DVBMark:

So does video work the same way GreyFoxx? Converts it to an .m3u file for playback, or does that require mythstream or something?

[15:05:47]

GreyFoxx:

www.phaze.org/mythtv/shot.png

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GreyFoxx:

an m3u is merely a point. It tells the app "got to this URL to get the file"

[15:06:29]

GreyFoxx:

the video stuff is just downloaded like a normal file and some players play while downloading

[15:06:43]

GreyFoxx:

there is work on offical flash based streaming, but nothing public yet

[15:07:03]

GreyFoxx:

mythstreamTV can be used (if it still works witgh newer mythwebs) to setup a small stream as well

[15:07:06]

DVBMark:

ya I am familiar with it for using it via mplayer and the xbox etc in the past

[15:07:17]

** caitlin grumbles at mythmusic **

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DVBMark:

just didn't know if it puts it in that format automatically

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DVBMark:

thanks

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** juski grumbles at the whiners :) **

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HannesAThome:

no yours look far different from my mythtv web fronthend

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caitlin:

is there a way to search for a track within the current playlist and play it, without fuckingn with your playlist in mythmusic?

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juski:

not AFAIK

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Neeesat25:

when I configure mythtv for dvb support I get support for /usr/include. is this correct?

[15:08:55]

juski:

mythmusic needs a LOT of love, and it ain't getting any

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Neeesat25:

my drivers are in /usr/src/DVB/linux/include

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HannesAThome:

juski but it is quite usefull to manage music

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juski:

I'd only say mythmusic was good at _playing_ music, not managing it

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DVBMark:

Neeesat25, then specify that on your configure line

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HannesAThome:

juski, yes shure

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DVBMark:

--dvb-path=/usr/src/DVB/linux/include

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Neeesat25:

after? --enable-dvb

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DVBMark:

don't matter where, just in your configure line

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DVBMark:

before compiling

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buddyholy:

well mythmusic is compleatly borked on my setup...

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Neeesat25:

ok thanks

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buddyholy:

it scans for music....adds the track to the database

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buddyholy:

then procedes to tell me I have no tracks!

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kerzinger:

fryfrog: hey its me gandalfcome, my gallery2 works like a charm now. its back to mythtv now, this time on the real server

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buddyholy:

sigh.

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HannesAThome:

is anyone using the serial ir from iguanaworks?

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seth|laptop:

buddyholy: did you "select" the tracks after the scan?

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buddyholy:

seth|laptop I have tried ...they dont show up

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seth|laptop:

sometime I forget to put checks in the boxes, thats all

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HannesAThome:

Greyfox, did you use the mythweb from cvs or the hole mythtv from cvs?

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GreyFoxx:

HannesAThome: I don't understand that question

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GreyFoxx:

But yes, I do run svn

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buddyholy:

seth|laptop acuully I think the rebuilding of the database worked

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buddyholy:

it works now

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seth|laptop:

well thats good

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HannesAThome:

i wanted to ask if it would be possible to use mythweb from cvs and use the rest of mythtv as a package from debian

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GreyFoxx:

oh, no

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GreyFoxx:

you can't intermx them

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HannesAThome:

ok

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juski:

there's no cvs, for one thing

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buddyholy:

the knopmyth distro formats the /myth partition with very little inodes.

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HannesAThome:

would you recommend changin to svn?

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GreyFoxx:

HannesAThome: Works great for me, but I always run svn

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GreyFoxx:

and I watch the dev list and commits list

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HannesAThome:

ok

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GreyFoxx:

I find it very stable

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fryfrog:

kerzinger: glad to hear :)

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buddyholy:

agk

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buddyholy:

afk

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GreyFoxx:

Usually it's DVB people who have issues in the past, but no big problems I can think of right now

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DVBMark:

you want to run SVN if you run DVB! :)

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kerzinger:

fryfrog: now the channel grabber has problems, i remember that the channel grabber is always a bit problematic from lasttime, but theres no way around xmltv is there?

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caitlin:

i'm going to try and love mythmusic a bit then..... learning curve here i come

[15:17:30]

juski:

mythmusic needs a rewrite IMHO, not just nips & tucks

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Dagmar:

Gimme perl bindings. :)

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juski:

pleh

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juski:

perl doesn't do nifty UI stuff

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Bernardo:

hi

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Dagmar:

It does if you have the bindings for it. :)

[15:19:05]

Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: I still have upnp problems

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Dagmar:

I actually got a lot of mileage out of the first iteration of Gtk::Perl, until they migrated to Gtk-2 and decided it was easier to tell people to use Glade::XML than to document things

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Bernardo:

it works with djmount (except for recordings), and with the dlink it just gives "can't open file" a lot

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GreyFoxx:

Bernardo: And are you runn ing the latest SVN trunk ?

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kerzinger:

is anyone here running mythtv in germany with the tvtoday grabber?

[15:21:29]

kerzinger:

and is there a xmltv channel?

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DVBMark:

reading in the docs that they recommend xfs or jfs filesystems over ext3, is that still the recommendation, always been an ext3 guy myself?

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janneg:

kerzinger: in #mythtv-de is maybe one

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juski:

DVBMark: makes little or no difference other than big files take longer to delete

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Dagmar:

*much* longer

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mtnbkr:

DVBMark: me too, but it turns out that jfs is the best (quickest) at deleting large files – which apparently gets done a lot with mythtv. I think I read a good comparison on the mythtv site or wiki, but surely a google search will turn up some good info and comparisons

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DVBMark:

juski: thanks, I take it, that it is def recommended to turn on that slow file deletion thing then or if I am rebuilding should I just go with one of the others?

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Dagmar:

jfs deletes more or less instantaneously

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: yes, I did a make clean, svn up, before rebuilding mythtv

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juski:

DVBMark: if you're using ext3, definitely enable gradual deletes in mythtv

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mtnbkr:

DVBMark: the speed diff will be painfully apparent when you are scrolling through your recordings and manually deleting the ones you don't want/need

[15:26:39]

DVBMark:

ya have kinda experienced that on just the regular live recordings it seems to keep heh

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Bernardo:

to make sure it wasn't a firewall problem, I connected to the same AP the dlink uses using a wifi card on my laptop

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juski:

it's not that bad, definitely not on files as big as 4GB

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juski:

it's when you delete whole swathes of recordings, that's when you really notice

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DVBMark:

k, might look into switching to jfs on my next build to see how it does, all my other drives are ext3 maybe someday will convert them but figured at least if the livetv one is setup that way would be the best

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DVBMark:

thanks for the input

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juski:

time to start work making up my temporary slave backend

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DVBMark:

I am sure I will find this in the docs somewhere, but I assume you can have a livetv directory and then actual recordings that you schedule etc can be set to another directory?

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juski:

nope

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DVBMark:

eww heh k

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GreyFoxx:

Bernardo: Are you running SVN trunk or -fixes ?

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Dagmar:

Typically you do *not* go and access the recordings directly, so the directory they're in doesn't much matter.

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juski:

you definitely _do_ _not_ ever delete files yourself

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DVBMark:

well might just stick with ext3 and enable the slow deletes then cuz I have external servers and such that also house my recordings and such and pretty sure they are ext3 he

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juski:

for the average user I doubt it's much of an issue anyway

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DVBMark:

hoping it is just a setup thing, but have noticed during install playing etc, I seem to have a lot of I assume livetv recordings that either failed, didn't take place or something and in my backend, notice a lot of file not there messages

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juski:

but take it from me, deleting in excess of 100GB in one go will most likely bog down your box for quite a while with ext3

[15:30:58]

Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: I am running trunk, yesterday it was rev 12341, I think

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GreyFoxx:

You can have seperate directories for livetv in svn using storage grouyps

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DVBMark:

I might redo the drives in the main backend as jfs and just deal with the external servers, will it hurt as far as you know to have slow deletes on with jfs?

[15:31:34]

DVBMark:

Thought I remembered seeing that GreFoxx

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DVBMark:

thank you

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GreyFoxx:

Bernardo: so your player can see the myth box, can see the files but just gets the error when playiong ?

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DVBMark:

so LiveTV will get written to whatever dir that is, and the Default dir will be what recordings goto?

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juski:

I don't think of SVN as being something I'd recommend the average user delve into ;)

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GreyFoxx:

DVD: They are all written to the same place bvy default

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GreyFoxx:

but you can create seperate storage groups for them as you like

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juski:

anyway, WTF IS LIVETV? ;)

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DVBMark:

agreed juski, I am usually a playah! :) so I mess with SVN all the time on most all I do heh

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DVBMark:

lmao yup, can't recall the last time I watched something live lmao

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juski:

mythtv != tv watching app

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Dagmar:

It's what you watch when you're out of recordings and don't feel like getting up

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DVBMark:

heh

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juski:

mythtv == most powerful open source (or not) PVR app on the face of the Earth

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: exactly

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DVBMark:

I am diggin it, now that it has more DVB support, otherwise been a VDR enthusiast heh

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juski:

VDR? pfft

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DVBMark:

lmao

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GreyFoxx:

Bernardo: Setup a tcpdump to capture all traffic to/from the mythback and your player, Then reboot the player and try to play a file

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Bernardo:

of course, recordings don't play yet even in djmount

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GreyFoxx:

then send me the traffic dump :)_

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juski:

they're not lying when they say it takes 10 mins to install it though

[15:34:22]

juski:

getting it to work is something entirely different

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juski:

same with MediaPortal

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juski:

and Freevo

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: ok, I'll do that when I get home. If things stay calm here, it'll be in a couple of hours

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DVBMark:

never had much problem but just always like playing with new things heh

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GreyFoxx:

Bernardo: It would be most helpful :)

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DVBMark:

but definately getting more and more into myth

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juski:

DVBMark: that was me a while ago, but the sense of loss I feel when mythtv goes wrong is galling

[15:35:19]

jd86:

I've had more problems keeping the computer mythtv runs on stable and running...

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GreyFoxx:

Working on getting an xboxb360 to stream music from myth now that I have one

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DVBMark:

heh

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juski:

Eastenders recordings were all jumpy last night, but it's not my show so I don't care a bit

[15:35:50]

DVBMark:

heh GreyFoxx, don't ya love it! :)

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DVBMark:

need some development on making the 360 be an extender for myth, and forget that windows crap heh.

[15:36:23]

GreyFoxx:

DVBMark: My mother heard me tell my dad I wanted to rent one just to add support for it, she thought I actually wanted to own one and bought it for me :)

[15:36:28]

juski:

I think it might be a good time to finally fettle my loft aerial properly though

[15:36:35]

GreyFoxx:

So first will be pmusic, then photos

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DVBMark:

lmao

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GreyFoxx:

then I'll look at the video

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DVBMark:

that would be awesome

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GreyFoxx:

and right now I'm going to look at lunch

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DVBMark:

ya music and photos from what I have seen from others messing with it shouldn't be real tough

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juski:

the video part might be tricky

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DVBMark:

doing video isn't all that bad, but what I want is for it to work through their media center stuff built in, that might be the issue

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: I definitively need to do that, at least to help the mediatomb guys to add FF/REV/subtitle support for the 250RD

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DVBMark:

that tversity works ok, but just works off shares

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DVBMark:

I want livetv and all heh

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Dagmar:

You should take a shot at mentioning you've been thinking about renting a prostitute.

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juski:

DVBMark: not only getting it working – there are prolly patent issues involved too

[15:38:03]

DVBMark:

has that ever stopped xbmc heh

[15:38:30]

DVBMark:

but I know lol

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: you might be interested in checking their code, it already supports the xbox and the dsm320rd (and it's GPL)

[15:38:51]

Bernardo:

bbl

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DVBMark:

Dont' suppose someone already has a Modeline for a Sharp XR-10x Projector ehh? heh

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Max0:

hi

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buddyholy:

h

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Max0:

juski you about mate?

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Max0:

managed to get my bolt free with a big hammer and an angle grider

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Max0:

:D

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juski:

Max0: hahaha

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HannesAThome:

i've a serial ir from iguanaworks and i'm missing the lirc_serial module, does anyone know if it is in a package with debian, or do i have to compile it myself?

[15:58:05]

juski:

HannesAThome: build it yerself

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juski:

!=rocketscience

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juski:

though the type of serial receiver it is might cause some confuzzlement

[15:59:01]

juski:

there are a few different options to choose from

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HannesAThome:

yes

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juski:

the most common (and I dunno which applies to you) is the good ole dumb as hell homebrew type, which is just a means of getting an IR stream onto a serial port pin

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juski:

others output actual characters to the serial port

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HannesAThome:

do i have to make the dumb driver also myself?

[16:00:59]

juski:

yes

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juski:

For technical support, contact support@iguanaworks.net .

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fryfrog:

damn, speaking of debian and modules for lirc...

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HannesAThome:

does this command show me the available driver lircd --driver=help or

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juski:

HannesAThome: looks like it's a dumb one

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fryfrog:

i think i updated my kernel a few weeks ago, but i don't specifically recall how to re-compile the modules it uses :/

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HannesAThome:

maybe i shouldn't use lirc as debian package and make it myself

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juski:

HannesAThome: yeah it's a bog standard homebrew thing, judging by their schematic

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fryfrog:

HannesAThome: you have to complile it eaither way, might as well use the method that is tested and documented for your distro

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HannesAThome:

fryfrog and thats the problem, i can not find any documentation for debian

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fryfrog:

oh?

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fryfrog:

i found it quite easily for Ubuntu, iirc

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fryfrog:

the ubuntu docs should be close

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HannesAThome:

ohh, ubuntu may be also helpful

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HannesAThome:

can you give me a link if possible?

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FlopsyPete:

hi. I'm trying to install the latest mythdora. During setup I get asked to specify the capture card, I have an Avermedia card which I believe uses bttv. The capture card options for bttv are 'bttv – analog/non DVB' but this card is DVB, whats up with that?

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fryfrog:

i'd have to seach just like you :(

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fryfrog:

you know the ubuntu wiki?

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HannesAThome:

no

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fryfrog:

what is mythdora?

[16:05:51]

fryfrog:

turns out its obvuios :)

[16:05:52]

fryfrog:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/

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FlopsyPete:

fryfrog: an installer for mythtv

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fryfrog:

ahhh

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HannesAThome:

com?

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Max0:

juski dont suppose you want to give me another hand with this box?

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DVBMark:

apt-cache search lirc might help ya

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DVBMark:

if you see an lirc-module-source, I would guess that is what u are after, and if you do your own kernel then after getting that modules source add modules_image to your compile line

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DVBMark:

fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=.whatever kernel_image modules_image

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HannesAThome:

i do have the lirc-module-source

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DVBMark:

did it put something in your /usr/src?

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HannesAThome:

but it needs to be compiled with the kernel, and i also use a packaged kernel

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DVBMark:

either a tar.gz file or a modules directory?

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juski:

Max0: I have to cook tea right now, so not right now, no ;)

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DVBMark:

ohh well never used a packaged kernel so not sure heh

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Max0:

ok mate no worries

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DVBMark:

would think you need to use modules assistant or something, can't help ya there

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Max0:

ill be on most of the night trying to sort it

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DVBMark:

haven't honestly used lirc either yet so don't have any input on that yet either but the time is coming I am sure

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HannesAThome:

yes a lirc-module-source.tar.gz i untarred it and there is a modules source directory now

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DVBMark:

well that would be the steps listed above but honestly not sure how to do it if you use a packaged kernel

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DVBMark:

I do know there is a modules-assistant app or something that might do it but don't know for sure, might have to go into that modules dir see if there is a readme

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HannesAThome:

dpkg-reconfigure lirc-module-source makes it, it also builds modules but the modules it builds are not compatible with the kernel unfortunately

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Paladine:

yellow all :)

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Ruleke:

blue you

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** Paladine just ordered a 32" LCD HDTV :) **

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Ruleke:

that small ?

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** Ruleke has no idea how big that is :-) **

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Ruleke:

inch schminch

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Paladine:

32" is pretty big

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Ruleke:

google is your friend... it's ok I guess

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Paladine:

our CRTs are only 28" and 30"

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riddlebox:

wohoo just got a phone call a guy wants to give me an xbox because the cd tray is broke! finally got a frontend for my tv

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DVBMark:

heh ya that is my next project after I finish getting the proper setup of myth, I have about 4 xbox's heh

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DVBMark:

plus 2 360's lol

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Ruleke:

isn't a 16:9 one smaller in surface area compared to a 4:3 one with the same diagonal ? (/me too drunk to do the math)

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FlopsyPete:

Is the mythdora setup screen where it asks what capture card you have the same as would be seen in any mythtv setup?

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HannesAThome:

Ruleke is the one you ordered HD-Ready or has it a HD-Reciever

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Ruleke:

I didn't order one

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Ruleke:

It's just that DVBMark bought a 32 inch one and I already have a 32inch old 4:3 crt, so I considered it not that big

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Ruleke:

sorry Paladine bought one

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Ruleke:

bah I should sober up

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HannesAThome:

heheh

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Paladine:

the one I got is HD ready and has HDMI yes

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riddlebox:

DVBMark, what do you mean get a proper myth setup?

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Paladine:

was uber cheap at tesco's too

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DVBMark:

I am learning myth heh, I have it running but plan on figuring things out and then redoing it after what I learned heh

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DVBMark:

and DVBMark runs a PJ with 120" Diagonal Screen so THERE LOL

[16:31:54]

Ruleke:

sounds like a plan DVBMark, I rebuilt 4 times so far ;)

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riddlebox:

DVBMark, I was going to say, fedora makes it real easy to setup and run mythtv

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DVBMark:

nah I'm a Debian man heh

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fryfrog:

ubuntu, ftw!

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Ruleke:

same here

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Ruleke:

easy on debian too

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DVBMark:

I am running, just trying to make it better and learn the ins and outs

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DVBMark:

yup Ubuntu is a good Dist as well

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Paladine:

from what I have found on the web, it seems that my TV is a rebranded LG/Phillips too

[16:32:36]

Paladine:

so it should be nice quality :)

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Ruleke:

knoppmyth for other people that I need to "support"

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riddlebox:

DVBMark, yeah, I used to run it on ubuntu, but I accidentally ran the updates once and forgot about a new kernel, with fedora the ivtv drivers are updated when there is a new kernel

[16:33:16]

DVBMark:

heh I build my kernel myself so shouldn't run into that, but thanks for the tip

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DVBMark:

not using ivtv as of yet either just DVB

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DVBMark:

and possibly an HDHomeRun for OTA later

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Ruleke:

bbye anyways

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riddlebox:

man my setup is just a pvr500

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kerzinger:

does anyone use the tv_grab_de_tvtoday script that comes with xmltv

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kerzinger:

_

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kerzinger:

?

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juski:

Max0: you around?

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Max0:

yeah mate

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Max0:

just fixed my sisters ipod

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juski:

Max0: stop mythtv-backend if it's running, then run tzap "BBC ONE" again

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Max0:

k i just stoped the back end to scan for channed

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juski:

then cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 to a file for 30 secs or so

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Max0:

channels and it crashed but ok....

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Max0:

[16:53:18]

Max0:

ok that seems to be cating the file...

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juski:

ok with that running, do cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 > test.mpg

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juski:

when you stop it, do ls -l to see what filesize you get

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Max0:

allready done

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Max0:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 0 2006-12–27 16:53 test,mpg

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Max0:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 0 2006-12–26 22:45 test.mpg

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Max0:

:(

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juski:

I had a feeling this might happen

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IamEthos:

* Your system is not capable of displaying the full framerate at 1280x735 resolution. Frames will be skipped in order to keep the audio and video in sync.

[16:54:47]

juski:

are you using edgy?

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IamEthos:

what is all that about?

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IamEthos:

why aren't I capable?

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IamEthos:

I'd like to be

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Max0:

me using edgy?

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juski:

IamEthos: have you installed proper drivers for your vga card?

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juski:

Max0: yeah

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Max0:

no whats that?

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juski:

Max0: ubuntu/kubuntu edgy

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IamEthos:

juski, yep, fglrx, I believe

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Max0:

oo yeah

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Max0:

6.10

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IamEthos:

though I've never been 100% sure that everything is working correctly.

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IamEthos:

I wish there was a benchmark package for my card that can test everything that it's supposed to do

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juski:

Max0: think you might need some newer modules from linuxtv.org's hg repository

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Max0:

you know /dev/dvb/adapter0/ is the digital card

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juski:

Max0: there are helpful guides on linuxtv.org's site and the guys who hang out in #linuxtv are great

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Max0:

could we try that with the analog one instead

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juski:

Max0: use tvtime for the analogue side

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Max0:

linux tv on freenode?

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juski:

Max0: #linuxtv yeah

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Max0:

ok ill try out tvtime and linuxtv thanks

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cheatersrealm:

anyone around good with ivtv drivers? All I can get from my ivtv-based hauppage pvr-500 is static.

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Max0:

is the uk pal?

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Max0:

or someother format

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juski:

yup

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Max0:

thanks

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juski:

PAL-I

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juski:

if I were you I'd not even bother with the analogue part though

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Max0:

kk

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Max0:

i got told to try tzap -r "BBC ONE"

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Max0:

which gave

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Max0:

tzap -r "BBC ONE"

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Max0:

using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'

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Max0:

tuning to 690000000 Hz

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Max0:

video pid 0x0258, audio pid 0x0259

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Max0:

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Max0:

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Max0:

etc

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caitlin:

looks good

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caitlin:

lock, is a good word

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caitlin:

unless "no" is infront of it

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Max0:

hehe

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Max0:

cool

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Max0:

cant seem to get a picture tho

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juski:

Max0: did I ask you to cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 ?

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Max0:

cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 > test.mpg yeah

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Max0:

should it be frondend0

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Max0:

or the otherone?

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juski:

if that's not producing any output I think the drivers are broken

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juski:

see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-167302.html

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Max0:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 46784512 2006-12–27 17:08 test.mpg

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Max0:

:D

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Max0:

i did that as root btw

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juski:

ahh

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juski:

ok

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juski:

try this: ffmpeg -i test.mpg

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juski:

it should report a load of stuff about the recorded file

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juski:

it'll also complain about not being given an output filename but ignore that

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Max0:

ok ill pastebin.ca it

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Max0:

http://pastebin.ca/293465

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juski:

Max0: great! so it works. you need to sort out why you can't play the stream though

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cheatersrealm:

what's tzap?

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juski:

cheatersrealm: what's google?

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cheatersrealm:

good point

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Max0:

could it be a codex issue?

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juski:

Max0: make sure the mythtv user & your own user are members of the 'video' group

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Max0:

yeha they are

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Max0:

i checked that

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juski:

k

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cheatersrealm:

if I get just static, is tzap likely going to tell me there's no signal?

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juski:

xine/vlc/mplayer should have no problems

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juski:

cheatersrealm: tzap is not for ivtv cards

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juski:

ivtvtune et al are for that. RTFM on ivtvdriver.org

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cheatersrealm:

aha

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Max0:

so just to check the command is mplayer /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0

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Max0:

with the other tzap in a other window

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juski:

Max0: yeah

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DVBMark:

so it seems using a sound card instead of onboard audio is best, is it overkill to go with a high end soundblaster or will the older live's work just as well?

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juski:

DVBMark: YMMV with any soundcard

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DVBMark:

YMMV?

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visit0r:

DVBMark: it should not matter much if you use a digital out to the amp

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juski:

right I need to try & catch up on my 9 solid days' worth of recordings

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DVBMark:

thanks juski and visit0r ya will be using spdif I am sure so cool, think I have some lives sitting around somewhere

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DVBMark:

I get prebuffering pauses and reaad that might help

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juski:

with digital it shouldn't make any difference

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DVBMark:

cool thanks

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DVBMark:

never actually tried getting a sound card going in linux heh just always used the onboard lmao this should be interesting lol

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DVBMark:

just a kernel recompile I am sure heh

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visit0r:

not needed, I'm sure. the only problematic point will be to make the live the default card instead of your onboard one. had to edit some conf manually for that...

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DVBMark:

k will deal with it when I find the card, thanks for the tips, might ask questions when I put it in heh

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DVBMark:

bah it will take up my last pci slot heh guess only will have 2 tuners, lol

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DVBMark:

using the spdif off the motherboard now, so do you think it will really make a difference?

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Max0:

sorry about that

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** SeaWeed i been trying to compile ( Mythtv ) With no luck if any 1 can shed some lite on it Would be Great **

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SeaWeed:

make[2]: *** [siscan.o] Error 1

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SeaWeed:

make[1]: *** [sub-libmythtv] Error 2

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SeaWeed:

make: *** [sub-libs] Error 2

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Max0:

i tried mplayer and my screen whent black

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Max0:

lol

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cheatersrealm:

juski: well, even with the ivtv tools, I can't seem to tune, and tvtime complains that it can't open /dev/video0

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visit0r:

DVBMark: no difference

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DVBMark:

ok so shouldn't waste the time if it shouldn't make a diff. so my prebuffering pauses are prob from something else then

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visit0r:

DVBMark: oh, one: hardware mixing might not work so you might not be able to use multiple applications that output sound at the same time without some tweaking

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DVBMark:

only thing running on the system is myth

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visit0r:

ok

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DVBMark:

but you are saying adding a live card shouldn't make any difference in my prob if I am using the spdif or digital out right

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SeaWeed:

if no 1 can help With those error's can some 1 point me to a good place to research them

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cheatersrealm:

wait, even as root it can't open the video device

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DVBMark:

SeaWeed doesn't give us much to go on with what u pasted, but try googling the error and see.

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SeaWeed:

yah i did google i did find some bad info on them

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SeaWeed:

i did not want to paste all the lines with error's figured it may flood

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SeaWeed:

but im useing ( Joffray's MythTV ) script

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DVBMark:

I personally have no clue what that is, maybe you should start there and not use the script, see if you can configure/compile it on your own first.

[17:27:47]

DVBMark:

then determine what the script is doing differently

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SeaWeed:

Well the Script add some patch and files that may nto be supported for ?'s here

[17:28:44]

SeaWeed:

or i would just come rite out and ask

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SeaWeed:

lol

[17:28:49]

SeaWeed:

but thanks

[17:28:57]

DVBMark:

again, I suggest trying to do it without the script and if it works, then try and add whatever patches individually and see where the problem fails

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DVBMark:

or go and ask the make of the script heh.

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SeaWeed:

i would ask the author if i knew where to find him :(

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SeaWeed:

but thanks For input

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visit0r:

DVBMark: no, I don't think the prebufferin pauses are due to the sound card

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SeaWeed:

i have Tryed looking for other Help adding files i will need but not realy no info out there on it

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DVBMark:

thank you visit0r, save me the effort heh. I think it is probably due to not having a Modeline in there currently. I need to figure out how to go about that properly

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DVBMark:

just saying SeaWeed that you should first try and see if you can get myth going raw by itself, if that works, then start adding to it. instead of going in with a whole bunch of stuff that you don't know about.

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DVBMark:

it makes troubleshooting very tough when you aren't sure what someone else's scripts might be doing

[17:33:40]

DVBMark:

But do keep in mind, I am purely suggesting. I am completely new to the Myth game myself, I just know a little something bout installing stuff!

[17:34:44]

SeaWeed:

Well Mythtv did install and Work from deb But when installed like that it dont Come with support i need

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SeaWeed:

i have System Up and Going With Hardware support i need currently running vdr figured i would see what myth is all about

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SeaWeed:

looks like a nice setup

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kerzinger:

mythtv on an xbox? I need a very thin client and quite a few seem to use the old xbox as a frontend client. what kind of xbox do I need to run linux and use a remote control (with or without dvd kit, what rom chip)? thanks for advice

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Dagmar:

kerzinger: Google

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Dagmar:

kerzinger: It's kinda hard to miss

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kerzinger:

Dagmar: thanks

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defend:

any one here using a fusionhdtv rt card by anychance?

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caitlin:

can any of you *cook*?

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caitlin:

</survey>

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seth|laptop:

I cook

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Dagmar:

I have a microwave.

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Dagmar:

...and a can opener (very important part of using a microwave).

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at0m|c:

dr outker pizza's pwn

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defend:

i cook ;p

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defend:

i love food

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caitlin:

myth needs a bloody cooking function

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jcopper:

does anyone run Myth .20 with Ubuntu dapper

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defend:

anyone ever heard of anyone getting this error with a fusionhdtv5 card by anychance KERN_WARNING lgdt330x: lgdt3303_read_status: Modulation set to unsupported value

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jcopper:

I can't get my nividia 5200 to display the righ tsize

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jcopper:

it's too big for the scren

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defend:

sounds like an x issue

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defend:

check your resoultion in your xconfig

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jcopper:

yes but I tried powerstrip on windows but the mode line still doesnt work

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defend:

whats powerstrip

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jcopper:

a cool modeline generator for windowsa

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defend:

and what does windows have to do with xorg ;/

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** seth|laptop lives in a windows free environment **

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jcopper:

you put the modeline from powerstrip into xorg.coyou put the modeline from powerstrip into the xorg.conf

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defend:

does x fit your screen?

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jcopper:

if I you a monitor instead of 57' hdtv

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seth|laptop:

sweet 57" HD

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jcopper:

yea myth rocks on it

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seth|laptop:

is your vga plugged directly into the tv, or are you converting

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seth|laptop:

or dvi

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jcopper:

dvi to tv~to my receiver and

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jcopper:

i think the problem may be my tv but I am not sure becasue s-video works fine

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defend:

maybe the tv is not tunning the correct res

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jcopper:

it is using 1280x1024

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jcopper:

i cant seem to set a non-standard size in xorg.conf

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Dagmar:

You need modelines for that usually

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jcopper:

yea I can't get them to work at all

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jcopper:

i can't tell what it shoudl be so x throws up

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jcopper:

?

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jcopper:

q

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jcopper:

q

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defend:

look at the log file

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defend:

search for WW

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jcopper:

ok

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Dagmar:

Generally that's just X telling you that it doesn't know how to use the resolution you requested, which is where modelines come in

[18:07:51]

Dagmar:

Yes, well, that URL is probably only marginally safe for work

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Dagmar:

wrong channel

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defend:

ya it could be just wrong sync rates or something

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jcopper:

Unrecognized ModeValidation token "NoEdidPClkCheck";

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jcopper:

(WW) NVIDIA(0): ignoring.

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defend:

but looking in the log file will tell you what the problem is

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defend:

what is that

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defend:

lol

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jcopper:

the log file

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jcopper:

q

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: you're here?

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: I've put the log at www.bandos.net/upnpvideo.tar.bz2

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Bernardo:

7 videos gave me "wrong format" (that's a new error, they just gave "can't open file"), and the eighth the DSM320RD just sat there, until I powered it off

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seth|laptop:

this seems like a crazy question, but what is the default recording type for tv shows, mpeg2, or mpeg4

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mishehu:

mpeg2 in general I think.

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mishehu:

less cpu intensive than mpeg4

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seth|laptop:

so if my protable can support mpeg1, 2, 4 it should import them ok.

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seth|laptop:

good to know

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seth|laptop:

never really checked, hehe

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rosh1182:

Had a few questions about Myth because I am thinking of switching. First, anyone use DirecTV with Myth, or does anyone have any links where I can understand the differences between using Myth with DirecTV and using something like TIVO?

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juski:

depends what kind of tuner card you have

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rosh1182:

I haven't bought any hardware yet

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juski:

framegrabbers get recorded as RTJPEG (nuppelvideo) by default IIRC

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seth|laptop:

well, it would be a pvr150, but also an air2pc card HD OTA

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Cybertoy:

hi ... anyone happen to use myth2ipod here?

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juski:

pvr, DVB & HDTV gets recorded as mpeg2

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seth|laptop:

cool, then I am set

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seth|laptop:

got a new Creative Zen Vision:M for the holiday, and I am getting ready to dump some series

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juski:

rosh1182: mythtv will require a directv set top box to use to record directv programming

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kormoc:

rosh1182, and valid subscription

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juski:

rosh1182: you'll need a capture card (I recommend a pvr150 from Hauppauge) and an IR blaster or some other means of mythtv changing channels on the set top box

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juski:

maybe try reading the channel FAQ too, I think it might be covered there

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seth|laptop:

that is what I use for my dish network

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juski:

oh btw I have a question for a change

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Max0:

hey juski i got a picture

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Max0:

:D

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Max0:

even tho its quite pixely

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juski:

my OSD doesn't seem to have any transparent areas

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rosh1182:

Juski: thanks so much for your help, how do I get access to the FAQ?

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juski:

Max0: get a better signal ;)

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juski:

rosh1182: read the channel topic

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Max0:

mplayer "dvb://BBC TWO"

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Max0:

was the answer

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rosh1182:

Juski: thanks

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juski:

Max0: really? the other command has always worked for me.. anyway good news!

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Max0:

yuh i might try rescanning on a different transmitter is there a app to see the signal strenth?

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rosh1182:

what limits does the myth software package have in terms of number of inputs and number of outputs? In other words, could I put together a box with 5 cable inputs so I could record 5 shows at the same time? How can I output so that more than one TV (not computer) can watch multiple shows at the same time?

[18:41:18]

juski:

Max0: tzap

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juski:

Max0: how many ways is your aerial split?

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GreyFoxx:

rosh1182: no real software limit on the number of inputs

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GreyFoxx:

and since you can have multiple backends you can have as many as you can shove cards into

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GreyFoxx:

you can serve up to as many frontends as you deploy

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Max0:

mmm i goes into a splitter in the loft then downstairs few bed rooms

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juski:

Max0: freeview can look quite pixellated on fast moving stuff, depending on the show. CRT TVs are much more forgiving than LCD/Plasma/PC Monitors

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GreyFoxx:

the limits you end up running into are network bandwidth and depending on how you store the recordings diskio

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GreyFoxx:

rosh1182: But 5 inputs isn't a problem at all

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Max0:

its fine downstairs tho

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juski:

Max0: you can't really split an aerial more than once without an amplifier

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juski:

Max0: set top boxes are much more forgiving than PCI cards too

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Max0:

yeah i think its an amplifer in the loft

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juski:

Max0: in tzap, you're looking for a low BER and zero UNC

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juski:

BER == bit error rate

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juski:

UNC == uncorrectable error rate

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Max0:

whats the command again

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GreyFoxx:

Bernardo: It's weird

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Max0:

tzap /dev/video0

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Max0:

?

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juski:

tzap "BBC ONE" channels.conf IIRC

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rosh1182:

GreyFoxx: so let's say I put 2 outputting graphics cards with one inputting cable card, and I run the output of the 2 graphics cards to two different televisions. Does that mean I can watch two different channels at the same time?

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GreyFoxx:

Your player asks for the first 0–16383 bytes of data, we return it but it then asks for the same data over and over

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rosh1182:

btw: I tried visiting the faq at (http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/) and I got a page load error

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GreyFoxx:

rosh1182: 1 input can only tune 1 channel at a time

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Max0:

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Max0:

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Max0:

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Max0:

they good or bad?

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juski:

Max0: UNC is quite high

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GreyFoxx:

if your card was a pvr500 thenhj you could have 2 since it is actually 2 pvr150's on a single pci card

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juski:

Max0: ideally UNC should be 00000000

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juski:

snr should be as close to ffff as possible

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Max0:

ok so how would i reduve that. diff transmitter?

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juski:

Max0: probably not

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rosh1182:

GreyFoxx: makes sense, so as long as I have the same # of inputs and outputs, I could scale the number of sets that way

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GreyFoxx:

rosh1182: Honestly though the more you use it the less you ever use LiveTV and the more you end up use watching recordings and skipping commericals etc

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juski:

use better aerial coax, maybe reduce the signal level... any number of things

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rosh1182:

how does mythtv combine the channel guide of two different sources: so if I have two inputs, one from directv and one from cable?

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Max0:

ill check the connectors then see if that helps

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rosh1182:

is it like replayTV?

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GreyFoxx:

rosh1182: no idea about the replaytv

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defend:

http://pastebin.ca/293569

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Beirdo:

rosh1182, the site should be working, what was the issue?

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rosh1182:

Beirdo: it does work now, thanks

[18:52:27]

Beirdo:

no problem

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rosh1182:

Beirdo: my question was related to how directv works with Myth, and I was told to see the FAQ

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Beirdo:

ahhh

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jcopper:

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PeterC:

Have been trying to update mythweb from 0.20–0.8 on my Debian etch for some time. I thought that waiting for another new version would resolve the problem but it hasn't. The error message is: postinst called with unknown argument 'upgrade'. Anyone seen this problem and know how to fix it?

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defend:

why does my dvb-utils not include any us examples?

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defend:

is that normal

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GreyFoxx:

Yes, since most US bird doesn't have much if any freely availabel channels

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GreyFoxx:

most of the examples are from European sats

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a1fa:

hi

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defend:

ah man

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defend:

lol how do i scan for hd chans then

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defend:

lol

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defend:

is there a way to tell it just scan everything via cmd line

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defend:

since i am at work

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a1fa:

do vnc

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a1fa:

launch mythtv-setup into vnc

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a1fa:

and conncect to it

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defend:

hmm

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juski:

oh bugger. distcc is hogging most of the cpu on my production backend :(

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a1fa:

defend : do you use zap2it?

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DVBMark:

GreyFoxx, if you don't mind me asking since you knew about the Storage Directories. I am bout to redo my system, do it with JFS, is there a real need or advantage of using LVM if I have storage directories? And can create them later as mounts as needed?

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defend:

yes

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a1fa:

why dont you just send it your HD channels

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GreyFoxx:

I've never been a fan of lvm, so I really am not one to speak to it's good points

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GreyFoxx:

but with storage groups, no I don't see any reason to use it

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DVBMark:

ya me either which is why I am trying to stay away from it heh

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juski:

LVM == greatly increase your chances of losing a whole filesystem :)

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DVBMark:

one of those if 1 drive fails what happens to the rest type things lol

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GreyFoxx:

yeah

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DVBMark:

exactly heh

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defend:

i didnt think they had it

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juski:

one big disk >>>>>>>>> a clutch of smaller disks

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DVBMark:

k cool then storage directories as I understand it from reading the docs can be created more later and mount other drives to and it will start using them

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kormoc:

well, with LVM when one drive fails, data recovery depends more on the filesystem then LVM itself

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juski:

unless you're talking RAID.. proper RAID, not pretendy RAID

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DVBMark:

thanks juski and GreyFoxx.

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kormoc:

Reiser for example will just give up the ghost on all your data if any part of it dies

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DVBMark:

I have Raid 5 TB Servers that I mount to, but have 3 drives in my main backend

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kormoc:

ext2/3 you have almost complete recovery on the good drives

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DVBMark:

so JFS instead of XFS?

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DVBMark:

ya looked at doing raid with lvm before and it just seemed like a nightmare heh

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juski:

I looked at lvm & just thought "EH?!"

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DVBMark:

ya have had good luck with software raid on ext3 when a drive fails

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DVBMark:

lol

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DVBMark:

yup

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DVBMark:

just making sure there was no other advantage that I might need from it heh

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kormoc:

LVM is for data I don't care about

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DVBMark:

covering bases as you could say heh

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DVBMark:

lol

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kormoc:

raid is for data I care about :)

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DVBMark:

yup yup

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DVBMark:

all my movie rips are on raid5

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a1fa:

kormoc : raid 0 is for data i dont care about

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kormoc:

a1fa, you can do raid 0 + 1 (or 1 + 0)

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DVBMark:

I plan on doing about 60g for my / partition and making a live-tv directory on that, be enuf? and then I have a 400 and a 300g drive in there I am gonna make for recording dirs

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juski:

all the raid systems I've ever seen first hand are too noisy for my house

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DVBMark:

and if I ever get good enuf plan on using mytharchive to convert to divx and moving over to my tb servers

[19:20:13]

DVBMark:

I luckily have a server closet that houses all my servers heh

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juski:

at the end of the day there's not much TV worth keeping

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DVBMark:

so no noise

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DVBMark:

except my game system

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a1fa:

hm.. my motherboard or powersupply have a serious problem

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juski:

there's precious little worth even ripping tbh

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a1fa:

or both

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a1fa:

everytime i attach an additional Hard-Drive

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a1fa:

the computer would shut it self off in the middle of th enight

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DVBMark:

so 60gig plenty for live-tv storage, it should ideally be deleting anything I don't record when I change channels right heh

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a1fa:

or it would work for days and then shut itself off

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juski:

with each additional HDD requiring 2A on the 12V rail to spin up...

[19:21:19]

a1fa:

i tested the power supply, and the power supply was good

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a1fa:

500W

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juski:

if it cost less than $100 for a 500W PSU, it's not up to the job

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kormoc:

a1fa, that rating is for the entire power supply, how much can the 12v rail handle by itself?

[19:21:50]

juski:

I've had those '500W' PSUs before

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a1fa:

juski : it as $130 case with a PS

[19:22:14]

juski:

so the PSU is worth maybe $25

[19:22:29]

a1fa:

maybe

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kormoc:

grap this one: http://www.pcpower.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=S47ATX

[19:22:45]

juski:

server manufacturers don't take any chances with PSUs

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juski:

so buy a server PSU

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a1fa:

how much is this one

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a1fa:

juski : i dont want an airplane in my livingroom :P

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kormoc:

you have 26A on the 12v rail, can handle 12 drives fine

[19:23:20]

kormoc:

a1fa, $100, and quiet to boot

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a1fa:

kormoc : i like it

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juski:

a1fa: so don't have it in your livingroom

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a1fa:

juski : not much i can do about it now

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a1fa:

until i buy a house

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kormoc:

a1fa, pcpowerandcooling is my favorate brand, they're one of those companys that make you feel good.

[19:24:05]

a1fa:

then i will do diskless frontends

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a1fa:

kormoc : like sex?

[19:24:24]

juski:

if each HDD produces 30dBA, four HDDs would make it about 42dBA, which is very audible

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a1fa:

pr0n makes me feel good

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a1fa:

not if your case is sound proof

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a1fa:

or sound damped

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juski:

soundproof == airtight?

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juski:

;-)

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a1fa:

no i hope

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kormoc:

a1fa, I bought one of their 510w delux power supplys a few years ago now. Had it for around 6 months when on a friday night they called me up around 7 pm. They told me that they had a run of bad caps and my power supply might have been affected, so they were going to mail me out a new one. The next day (saturday), around 10 am or so, it was sitting at my door. I got to keep both of them, and the old one is still working perfec

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kormoc:

tly fine :)

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juski:

oh bum. --disable-joystick-menu doesn't work then

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a1fa:

kormoc : cool

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juski:

duh! ../../libs/libmythui/libmythui-0.20.so: undefined reference to `JoystickMenuClient::Init(QString&)'

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juski:

of course there's no reference to it, I disabled it. buffoon!

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a1fa:

where can i buy this ps?

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a1fa:

any special place?

[19:26:46]

kormoc:

a1fa, right from them, or you can check newegg

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a1fa:

i need to order two 700 gb disks

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juski:

700GB?

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kormoc:

720?

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juski:

didn't think anyone made 700GB, only 750

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a1fa:

heh

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a1fa:

720 i think

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a1fa:

i was gonna go for 500

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a1fa:

i will buy this after NYS

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a1fa:

I am also using ZoneMinder on my mythtv box

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Max0:

wooow i got a wicked picture with mplayer :D

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a1fa:

how

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Max0:

mplayer "dvb://BBC TWO"

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a1fa:

500gb

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a1fa:

for $129 with free shipping

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juski:

why would mythweb be saying an in-progress recording has a filesize of 'B'? other than the bad news, that is

[19:35:10]

caitlin:

it's sesame street?

[19:35:37]

juski:

The Royal Institution Christmas Lectures actually

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juski:

:(

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juski:

if that recording has fucked up, ubuntu is SO making the journey tonight

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juski:

gentoo, 18 months, no problems with mythtv

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juski:

now on ubuntu, nothing but fucking hassles

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DVBMark:

Debian baby! although Ubuntu is good but only use it for a desktop os, I use Debian pure for any servers heh

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Max0:

juski i got a good pictute with mplayer

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DVBMark:

gentoo is good to if you have a lifetime to wait on things lol

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juski:

Max0: cool

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Hoxzer:

Jamie Got a gun

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juski:

yeah well my gentoo box had uptimes of > 6 months

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juski:

not with umbongo

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Max0:

how much of a misson will it be to set up mythtv

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juski:

on ubuntu? using their packages? MAJOR

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DVBMark:

my deb boxes are all uptime of a long time heh, don't get me wrong I like gentoo as well heh just don't like having to deal with all that flag stuff nor the compile times heh

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Max0:

lol

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Max0:

:(

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kormoc:

Max0, depends on your linux knowledge and skills.

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a1fa:

debian > *

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DVBMark:

I just started building my deb box again so time me heh

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** a1fa ducks **

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a1fa:

dont hit me please

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Z_Morek:

wasn't there talk about debian... dying...

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a1fa:

haha

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DVBMark:

not that I have ever seen heh

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a1fa:

rumor by redhat

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Max0:

mmm linux one week of having it as main OS

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Z_Morek:

not as much support as there used to be or something

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Max0:

:S

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a1fa:

god forbid

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a1fa:

i'd think i would die

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juski:

ubuntu is ok apart from needing to compile mythtv to get everything working right so you can follow a howto

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a1fa:

if that happened

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DVBMark:

I think due to all the halfbreeds there is more support than ever now lol

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juski:

or do stuff properly

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a1fa:

juski : compile is ok

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DVBMark:

I compile myth as well heh

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a1fa:

i use svn version anyway

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DVBMark:

ya

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Z_Morek:

I'm not liking ubuntu now

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Z_Morek:

I'm trying it on for size

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DVBMark:

lol

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Z_Morek:

I haven't had to compile to get myth functioning

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Z_Morek:

but lirc is currently dead

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DVBMark:

I just don't like compiling qt or glibc heh

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DVBMark:

that's why I don't use gentoo lol

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a1fa:

Netgear KWGR614 Open Source Wireless-G Linux Router with Dual Antennas

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Z_Morek:

gentoo is theoretically faster tho right?

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juski:

/usr/lib/libmythavcodec-0.20.so: undefined reference to `XvMCLoadQMatrix'

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DVBMark:

dunno how lol

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DVBMark:

faster at what heh

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juski:

I didn't enable xvmc!

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Z_Morek:

well I hope to get gentoox working on my modded xbox

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DVBMark:

xebian LMAO

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juski:

linux in 32MB ram is just not funny

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juski:

not with kde anyway

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DVBMark:

better than windows and 32MB ram lol

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juski:

that isn't saying very much at all

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DVBMark:

true

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DVBMark:

lol

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fdinng:

hi all

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Z_Morek:

ratpoison? :-P

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Z_Morek:

ugh

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fdinng:

got some questions

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juski:

one works, at a snail's pace.. the other... oh dear

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juski:

so, I didn't enable xvmc, yet I get /usr/lib/libmythavcodec-0.20.so: undefined reference to `XvMCLoadQMatrix'

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DVBMark:

did you DISABLE it?

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juski:

what've I done wrong?

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DVBMark:

think it enables by default don't it?

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juski:

yes I did disable it

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DVBMark:

and pro and such?

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fdinng:

can I hook mythtv to my tv?

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DVBMark:

if you have a video card that will hook to your tv, I would guess YES?

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juski:

I also disabled joystick support too, and it failed to build for a similar reason

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Z_Morek:

fding... yes

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fdinng:

Z_Morek and the quality will be compressed, computer, or plain TV?

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juski:

fdinng: depends

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juski:

start asking smarter questions

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Z_Morek:

I have svideo out on my video card

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Z_Morek:

I'm watching recordings on my tv now

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Z_Morek:

adn sshing into it from my main computer

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Z_Morek:

trying to get lirc working .... *grumble grumble*

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DVBMark:

I will be trying lirc on this next install

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juski:

trying to understand why mythtv keeps shitting its pants on this PoS distro

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DVBMark:

lmao

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fdinng:

Z_Morek ok, thanks so basically I need a S-video capable card?

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** DVBMark shouldn't laugh too hard he is reinstalling and might need juski's help.. **

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DVBMark:

lol

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DVBMark:

yes fdinng

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Z_Morek:

fdinng: the tv is essentially a monitor

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DVBMark:

what's your configure statement juski?

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jams:

juski- take it slackware istn'e going so well for ya

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Z_Morek:

fdinng: just has certain refresh rates

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fdinng:

Z_Morek aha

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juski:

jams: didn't get far with that at all. my production backend is throwing a wobbler

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Z_Morek:

fdinng: so any tv-out will work... generally svideo is most common

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juski:

./configure --disable-firewire --enable-dvb --disable-hdhomerun --disable-dbox2 --disable-freebox --disable-crciprec

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juski:

I was only trying to save some compile time

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Z_Morek:

fdinng: and you can get rca plugs for your stereo out plug on your audio card

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fdinng:

Z_Morek thanks, now from what I understand I can use a ONE computer to display into TWO separate TV's? Using Cable, would be that possible wihtout having to incurr Time Warners fees for extra rooms?

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DVBMark:

--disable-xvmc --disable-xvmc-pro and seems like there was another one

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DVBMark:

being as I am booting my new install I can't tell ya lol

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DVBMark:

./configure --help

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Z_Morek:

fdinng: a computer can display to as many heads as you can configure and have output for

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Z_Morek:

fdinng: as far as cable in... that's a different story

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juski:

looks like mythbackend crashed because distcc was hogging all the CPU

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juski:

ffs

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fdinng:

Z_Morek how different is that? I need to know 'cause I am about to buy the parts to set MythTV and I would like to have in two rooms being able to watch different channels simultaneously

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Z_Morek:

fdinng: you'll need two captures...

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fdinng:

Z_Morek meaning two CARDS?

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DVBMark:

that's one thing I haven't delved into yet is figuring out how to setup distcc

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Z_Morek:

fdinng: you could use one card with 2 inputs

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DVBMark:

guess I should being as I have a few servers that it could use

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cptpotato:

hi all, where can i find what all the keyboard keys do in mythtv

[19:51:12]

juski:

cptpotato: RTFM ?

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DVBMark:

heh juski is taking his frustrations out on others lmao

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Z_Morek:

fdinng: iirc the hauppauge pvr350 has two inputs

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Z_Morek:

fdinng: and it automatically encodes mpeg2

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juski:

seriously, all the keyboard commands are in the docs

[19:52:13]

fdinng:

Z_Morek ONE card with 2 inputs will allow me to watch different channels simultanesouly?

[19:52:15]

DVBMark:

yup

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DVBMark:

they are

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DVBMark:

check the topic there are some good links there that might assist heh

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fdinng:

from Time Warner Cable?

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juski:

fdinng: no, to record/watch 2 channels at the same time you need two INDEPENDENT tuners

[19:52:42]

fdinng:

DVBMark who me?

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Z_Morek:

fdinng.... actually it might be the pvr500

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DVBMark:

no cptpotato

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fdinng:

ohh

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juski:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Keybindings

[19:53:35]

fdinng:

Z_Morek wow that thing look kewl

[19:53:36]

juski:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Keybindings

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Z_Morek:

fdinng: regardless there's 2input cards out there but running two frontends on one pc might be a bit hard to configure

[19:54:13]

Z_Morek:

to two tvs...

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Z_Morek:

I imagine it's possible but would involve a LOT of custom config files

[19:54:41]

juski:

yeah it's a pretty fucktarded thing to want to do IMHO. two remotes, two soundcards, two X servers...

[19:54:45]

fdinng:

Z_Morek hard to configure, but possible? How about with virtualized OS, such as XEN?

[19:55:07]

fdinng:

ok so not recommended?

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cptpotato:

im just trying to configure my remote control

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Z_Morek:

I'm really not that knoewledgable...

[19:55:24]

Z_Morek:

I just go with what I know

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fdinng:

ok thanks

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Z_Morek:

esp when I misspell knowledgable...

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juski:

not recommended for somebody who didn't figure out to watch 2 different things he'd need more than one tuner card, no ;)

[19:55:59]

fdinng:

juski fucktarded but what if I have two TV on different rooms? Do I need TWO comptuers?

[19:56:12]

Z_Morek:

well if you know your way around linux and x servers and multi-head setups... you could pull it... I assume

[19:56:14]

juski:

you don't NEED 2 computers but it'll be fuckloads easier

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fdinng:

ok

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fdinng:

juski I might try both ways

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juski:

a heck of a lot of folks who drop by here have enough problems getting anything to work on ONE screen

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fdinng:

ROFL

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Z_Morek:

I'm attempting something... similar... I'm trying the modded xbox route

[19:57:05]

Z_Morek:

cheap frontend

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fdinng:

mm... os it'll be a challenge

[19:57:08]

Z_Morek:

but a bitch to set up

[19:57:32]

juski:

everything's a bitch. they secret is to make it _your_ bitch ;)

[19:57:49]

Max0:

hehe

[19:57:55]

Z_Morek:

well I don't have the command of xbox configuration to make it my bitch

[19:58:14]

fdinng:

ohh... well since mine is big the bitch will prolly love it ;-D

[19:58:17]

Max0:

ive got a chipped xbox

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Max0:

well good

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juski:

modding xboxes isn't a topic for discussion here, but xboxscene.com is a good place to look

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DVBMark:

I have 4 Xbox's plus some MediaMVP's that I am gonna try

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Z_Morek:

I know I just like to complain...

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fdinng:

w00t can I use xbox to do this? 360?

[19:58:54]

Z_Morek:

xboxscene's guides can be dead links

[19:58:57]

Z_Morek:

it's annoying

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juski:

xbox360 is so far not uncrippled

[19:59:18]

Z_Morek:

it's a work in progress

[19:59:21]

fdinng:

ok what's the processor that I need to do this?

[19:59:23]

juski:

it has not been blessed with the ability to run non M$ code

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juski:

fdinng: any modern CPU will just about do

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juski:

more CPU headroom the better

[19:59:52]

fdinng:

juski I think that hypervisor thingy that consoles are using is uncrackable...

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juski:

whatever

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fdinng:

dual-core 64-bit aight?

[20:00:14]

juski:

drop the subject now please folks

[20:00:20]

juski:

fdinng: more than enough

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fdinng:

how much RAM?

[20:00:39]

juski:

if you want to play 2 hd streams at the same time it might not be but hey

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juski:

512MB MINIMUM

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juski:

you might get by with less but I wouldn't recommend it

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fdinng:

PVR-500 got only one TV output

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DVBMark:

any luck yet juski with that xvmc?

[20:01:24]

juski:

pvr-500 doesn't have ANY TV output

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Z_Morek:

350's got output

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juski:

pvr350 is getting deprecated with every passing day. my advice would be to avoid it

[20:02:14]

juski:

if mythtv's support for it breaks, it's not likely to get fixed

[20:02:23]

fdinng:

juski which one do would you reccomend that's bleeding edge?

[20:02:34]

juski:

that's the other thing

[20:02:38]

juski:

don't buy bleeding edge

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juski:

1) it's a waste of money

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PeterC:

seth|laptop: I have done a little bit debugging regarding the ivtv DMA error. It seems that when I enable OpenGL in MythTV the errors occur. Using QT everythink works fine.

[20:02:52]

juski:

2) it's unlikely to work properly in linux

[20:03:09]

fdinng:

will GeForce SlI work?

[20:03:23]

juski:

fdinng: forget about SLI, there's no need for it for mythtv

[20:03:44]

fdinng:

oh

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juski:

5200, 6200 etc will be fine

[20:04:12]

Dibblah:

ATI Rage II would be fine ;)

[20:04:13]

DVBMark:

I got a 6200, which seems to do ok, but I want my osd back in color with xvmc so I have a 5750 on its way

[20:04:19]

fdinng:

kewl 60 bucks

[20:04:39]

seth|laptop:

PeterC: after my 12268 svn-fixes update, the problem went away for me

[20:04:47]

seth|laptop:

I run in opengl now

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** juski tries make again **

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fdinng:

for two front ends do I need TWO graphics cards and TWO TVcards?

[20:05:21]

juski:

fdinng: to run on the same machine, yeah

[20:05:35]

juski:

if you're using TVs that is

[20:05:36]

fdinng:

but for two different TV's

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PeterC:

seth|laptop: OK, I havn't tested with that version, but I will do that.

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juski:

or you could go dual desktop with one graphics card, use the TV out for one screen & buy a VGA-TV converter for the other

[20:06:08]

fdinng:

juski what about those cards got TWO monitor outputs?

[20:06:20]

juski:

getting 2 remotes to work will be fun on a stick

[20:06:50]

fdinng:

fun like cool? Or are you being ironic?

[20:06:53]

Dibblah:

Twinview doesn't work with Myth in that way, AFAIK.

[20:06:58]

Dibblah:

No, sarcastic.

[20:07:09]

juski:

fun like having your toenails pulled out with rusty pliers

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fdinng:

lol

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Dibblah:

(A card can only output an overlay to one head at a time)

[20:07:38]

fdinng:

Dibblah so MythTV doesn't work with Twinview?

[20:07:42]

Dibblah:

It will.

[20:08:01]

Dibblah:

You can only display video on one of the heads, though.

[20:08:03]

juski:

but you can't have mythtv running on both

[20:08:06]

Dibblah:

Unless you use mirror.

[20:08:06]

juski:

heh

[20:08:08]

juski:

nice

[20:08:18]

fdinng:

yikes

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juski:

that's not just a mythtv limitation btw

[20:08:35]

fdinng:

a mirror? ROFL

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Dibblah:

fdinng: It's a limitation of the hardware.

[20:08:52]

Dibblah:

fdinng: It's a display mode.

[20:09:02]

fdinng:

a mirror will play the same show

[20:09:06]

Dibblah:

Means that both heads display the same thing.

[20:09:16]

fdinng:

I want different

[20:09:20]

Dibblah:

Not a physical on-the-wall mirror.

[20:09:31]

Dibblah:

Easiest way to get that is 2 frontends.

[20:09:35]

fdinng:

like the cable company does but charging. I ain't wanna pay for that

[20:09:52]

fdinng:

Dibblah will multiseat work?

[20:10:06]

juski:

if your cable company encrypts what's on the cable, you'll also need two set top boxes

[20:10:07]

Z_Morek:

is there an lirc channel on freenode?

[20:10:11]

juski:

#lirc

[20:10:16]

juski:

IIRC

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Z_Morek:

I tried "#lirc" but noone was there..

[20:10:25]

Dibblah:

... I just put together a 20w PIII 700 with LCD display for £60 :)

[20:10:26]

juski:

it's the holidays

[20:10:37]

Z_Morek:

literally noone

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Dibblah:

Well, actually, I put together 1 and have the bits for 3.

[20:10:45]

Z_Morek:

there wasn't even a bot...

[20:10:50]

juski:

Dibblah: where you get them from?

[20:10:54]

Dibblah:

ebay.

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fdinng:

mmm...

[20:11:14]

Dibblah:

Dell L400 laptop without the laptop bits.

[20:11:17]

fdinng:

damn... this is two much..

[20:11:21]

fdinng:

*too

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Dibblah:

Bought the motherboards and screens.

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fdinng:

ok where should I start?

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Dibblah:

Set up a backend, fill your channels in, set up a frontend and start it all.

[20:12:21]

fdinng:

I don't have the hardware yet

[20:12:23]

Dibblah:

Jarod's guide comes highly recommended.

[20:12:24]

juski:

a good starting point would be to RTFM

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juski:

then read it again

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Z_Morek:

and DON'T SKIP STEPS

[20:13:18]

juski:

then if you have questions, ask em

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BULLE:

and again

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Z_Morek:

I made that mistake

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fdinng:

I am RTFM

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juski:

I never say RTFM for the sake of it

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Dibblah:

fdinng: I would also suggest trying it out first, with cheapish hardware and your existing machine.

[20:13:20]

Z_Morek:

those guides are fine tuned... almost everything is there for a reason

[20:13:21]

juski:

I also never say NO MSGing without reason either

[20:13:21]

Dibblah:

ie buy one PVR-150.

[20:13:21]

Z_Morek:

how much are pvr150s going ofor?

[20:13:26]

Max0:

sorry

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Dibblah:

Z_Morek: I'll sell you one for £30 ;)

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fdinng:

Dibblah wait my existing hardware is a crappy laptop with intel i830 shared memory. I wold need a USB

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juski:

you want private help, pay me a hundred quid an hour :)

[20:14:06]

Dibblah:

It has, admittedly, got a connector soldered onto the i2c bus, but it still works...

[20:14:14]

Max0:

sorry im not gay ;)

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juski:

pfft. cheeky B

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Dibblah:

shared memory is not a problem

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Max0:

lol

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Max0:

any idea why mplayer players the tv but no sound?

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fdinng:

Dibblah so if I get a USB tuner TODAY I can get start right away?

[20:14:54]

Dibblah:

Get out of the gamer mindset. Low power is what you want. Low power == good.

[20:15:17]

Z_Morek:

is the myth community big in england?

[20:15:18]

juski:

and I want the 1st person I kickban to be someone more worthy ;)

[20:15:19]

Dibblah:

Yup.

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Dibblah:

Z_Morek: I wouldn't know.

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juski:

Max0: prolly picking the mostly blank audio description channel

[20:15:25]

Z_Morek:

I noticed an ubuntu edgy guide was way up on google and it was also written by a brit

[20:15:38]

Z_Morek:

just curious...

[20:15:39]

juski:

Max0: find out which key mplayer uses to select a different audio stream

[20:15:47]

Max0:

ok thanks

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Dibblah:

fdinng: Only problem is potentially finding one that is supported under Linux and also doesn't suck.

[20:16:23]

juski:

the whole beef I have about private questions is a) they don't get logged and b) nobody else benefits

[20:16:40]

juski:

if I'm gonna do 1:1 support, PAY ME :)

[20:16:50]

fdinng:

Dibblah the towe I have is 200 MMX, so I can just forget about it

[20:17:07]

juski:

but screw that I can't be arsed with the responsibility :-P

[20:17:24]

fdinng:

juski I am a masochist, I like to suffer if it's necessary

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Dibblah:

200 is _slightly_ too slow for a frontend. Just OK for a backend.

[20:17:50]

juski:

200 might be pushing it even with a pvr350 helping out

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Dibblah:

PIII 700 is OK for a frontend.

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juski:

athlon 800 is 'ok' for a frontend too

[20:18:14]

Dibblah:

Depends on the disk, etc, but yes.

[20:18:18]

juski:

but only with xvmc

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Max0:

Requested audio codec family [mp3] (afm=mp3lib) not available.

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juski:

Max0: heheh

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Max0:

hehe

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Dibblah:

Athlon 800? You couldn't afford a fan heater?

[20:18:39]

juski:

install them thar debian multimedia repos

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BULLE:

fan heater ?

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Dibblah:

(The earlier athlons – 800 – 1Ghz were nastily hot, in my experience)

[20:19:20]

fdinng:

ok intel or AMD?

[20:19:33]

juski:

KDE or GNOME? you start the war

[20:20:11]

GreyFoxx:

Neither :)

[20:20:29]

Max0:

im tryind kde first

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fdinng:

someone wanna come with me to the store?

[20:20:40]

Max0:

trying*

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juski:

I actually find it ironic that although the users of both environments are often wasting time arguing pointlessly, their developers aren't !

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juski:

;)

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juski:

Max0: I prefer KDE as a desktop having tried it, but as GreyFoxx said I don't use a DE for my frontend

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GreyFoxx:

I don't use one on my desktop heh

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Dibblah:

Evil. Evil all the way.

[20:21:49]

FlopsyPete:

I can't get an Avermedia card with saa7133 chip to work with Mythtv 0.20 in Mythdora 0.31. Whats the cheapest worthwhile tv card from Hauppage thats worth buying?

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Dibblah:

pvr-150.

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juski:

FlopsyPete: oh come on. if you don't already know it's all about the pvr150 why even bother? ;)

[20:22:22]

Dibblah:

Really, I wouldn't bother with software encoding.

[20:22:32]

** juski seconds that wholeheartedly **

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Max0:

im quite new to having linux as a main OS

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: I'm back

[20:22:46]

Max0:

ive set it up at work as a file sever and a proxy before

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Dibblah:

It's asking for Neighbors not to be recorded and therefore an asskicking scheduled.

[20:22:52]

Max0:

so its cool to actuly try it out

[20:22:56]

juski:

I tried linux on my main machine & loved it.. then found it impotent

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fdinng:

anyone got this working in 64bit?

[20:22:58]

Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: you say it asks for the first bytes, then keeps asking for them again?

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GreyFoxx:

Bernardo: Yup

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juski:

fdinng: yes, many people have

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GreyFoxx:

the first 16K and repeats

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FlopsyPete:

juski: ok. the shop I went to today had the 150 out of stock, but had the 250. I guess I should wait for the 150

[20:23:17]

Z_Morek:

I found myself bound and gagged using linux as a main os

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fdinng:

juski is there any performance benefit of it?

[20:23:27]

Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: and for the other videos it claims it doesn't support, but play well when served by mediatomb?

[20:23:28]

Z_Morek:

felt like I couldn't get around easily

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juski:

FlopsyPete: the 150 is cheaper, and slightly better quality

[20:23:39]

GreyFoxx:

then after a few tries it goes thrugh the whole "give me your info" stage again and tries to download again

[20:23:39]

Z_Morek:

probably a reflection of my inexperience at the time

[20:23:41]

FlopsyPete:

juski: thanks

[20:23:41]

Max0:

i can see the uptime is a lot better than windows servers

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juski:

fdinng: not much

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juski:

Max0: not on my box it ain't

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GreyFoxx:

Bernardo: I don't have a capture of a mediatomb one to even guess :)

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Max0:

:O

[20:24:03]

juski:

ubuntu will prolly be gone by new years

[20:24:15]

GreyFoxx:

all I can tell is is what I see, not why it's doing it

[20:24:20]

Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: ok, I'll give you one.

[20:24:21]

Max0:

im tryin ubuntu and l like it

[20:24:27]

juski:

I'm starting to class uptime as how long mythbackend is staying up

[20:24:29]

Max0:

its a bit like a windows linux

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GreyFoxx:

I can compare a working one though and see what I come up with

[20:24:43]

GreyFoxx:

I'm working on the 360 music support right now

[20:24:53]

GreyFoxx:

my wife wants that

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: they also have 360 support

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fdinng:

aight... thanks for the support. Wait last question, if I have TimeWarner Cable, do I need to boxes to play on two TVs?

[20:24:58]

Bernardo:

mediatomb, that is

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GreyFoxx:

I already know what needs to be done for that

[20:25:15]

GreyFoxx:

just need to do it

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juski:

fdinng: if it's digital, YES. if it's encrippled, YES

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GreyFoxx:

but only so much I can do from here at work with the 360 sitting at home :)

[20:25:36]

fdinng:

ROFL@encrippled

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Bernardo:

I also need some way to grab the exchange between the DSM320RD and DLink's media server

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GreyFoxx:

Bernardo: Windump(tcpdump for windows) or better wireshare/ethereal

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GreyFoxx:

just make sure you capture 1500 bytes as it defaults to 68

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Dibblah:

fdinng: Also depends on if your cable company puts channels you care about in-the-clear out...

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Bernardo:

probably will put the laptop running wireshark while the wife's windows pc runs the server

[20:26:33]

Bernardo:

what defaults to 68, windump?

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fdinng:

Dibblah what's in-the-clear?

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Dibblah:

68 is bootp, innit?

[20:26:48]

Dibblah:

Non-encrypted.

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juski:

uncrippled

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GreyFoxx:

ethereal/tcpdump/wireshark all default the snaplen to 68 bytes

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fdinng:

Dibblah ok

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GreyFoxx:

just be sure to pump it up to 1500

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fdinng:

ok second to last question... or penultima question

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Bernardo:

ok, I'm checking now in wireshark/gtk where I do that

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fdinng:

is it a good idea to use ATAoE with the recordings and so on?

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juski:

ATAoE ?

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fdinng:

ATA over Ethernet

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GreyFoxx:

fdinng: an't said I've ever tried it

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Dibblah:

fdinng: Don't bother.

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juski:

fdinng: it's not a bad idea, YMMV

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Dibblah:

You really are trying to complicate your life ;)

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fdinng:

don't bother, is not a bad idea :-S

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juski:

NFS for remote stuff

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: I have "limit each packet to" disabled

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fdinng:

ok and this is the last question

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GreyFoxx:

Bernardo: turn it on and set it to 1500 bytes to be 100% sure it's all there

[20:29:49]

fdinng:

is it possible to use a front end wirelessly?

[20:29:52]

Dibblah:

Yes.

[20:29:54]

Dibblah:

And no.

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fdinng:

mm...

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GreyFoxx:

If you have a good enough connection it can work

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Dibblah:

Mainly depends on your expectations.

[20:30:07]

fdinng:

w00t

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juski:

fdinng: yes, but standard def. tv needs at least a reliable 'G' connection

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fdinng:

ok.. so G will do

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juski:

and when I say reliable I mean i

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juski:

it

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: ok

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linagee:

is there anything good on tv? bah. i think it's all been cancelled or something

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Dibblah:

... And no microwaves or mobile phone masts nearby.

[20:30:40]

fdinng:

and I suppose the new pre-N are good as well

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juski:

or wet dogs

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Dibblah:

linagee: Someone scheduled this holiday or something. Damn inconsiderate, if you ask me.

[20:31:03]

fdinng:

wet dogs absorb waves? o.0

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linagee:

Dibblah: i don't get it. a holiday is one day.

[20:31:33]

linagee:

Dibblah: why fsck up the schedule for weeks? :(

[20:31:34]

Dibblah:

fdinng: pre-N? You remember the discussion about 'don't try new stuff in Linux'...?

[20:31:40]

fdinng:

yeah

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fdinng:

ok

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Dibblah:

Keep that in mind when shopping :)

[20:31:59]

fdinng:

thanks so next step I am going to get the hardware

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linagee:

Dibblah: i say we make an official petition to the networks to stop fscking up the schedules every christmas. ;)

[20:32:06]

fdinng:

thanks all

[20:32:18]

juski:

and remember kids, a real network cable will ALWAYS make wireless look very sucky indeed

[20:32:33]

linagee:

juski: not if the wireless = free internet. ;)

[20:32:44]

GreyFoxx:

hmmmmm do I port my ati_remote driver to 2.6.19.1 tonight or just drink the koolaid and install lirc

[20:32:59]

juski:

linagee: that's technically an offense in this country

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linagee:

juski: how is it offensive?

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fdinng:

you know I just realized. It's not possible to know everything without even having it working... Only when you have it and dealt with it will be possible to compare and see other options and understand more cards and so on

[20:33:18]

juski:

theft of data/services

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linagee:

juski: close your wifi-hole if you don't want others using it

[20:33:37]

juski:

linagee: it's still technically theft

[20:33:47]

juski:

anyway I wouldn't have wireless if you GAVE me the gear for free

[20:33:50]

linagee:

juski: it's like leaving your front door open and constantly sending out invitations to the party to everyone around you

[20:34:07]

juski:

so what? it doesn't change the matter that it's against UK law to steal bandwidth

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linagee:

(WEP = no, broadcast packets = yes)

[20:34:17]

linagee:

juski: UK law?

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linagee:

juski: this is the good ol US of A. ;)

[20:34:31]

GreyFoxx:

And my inviting you into my home doesn't mean to can raid my fridge and use my toilet

[20:34:31]

juski:

like it's illegal to steal stuff from somebody's house even if they left the front door wide open

[20:34:36]

fdinng:

wep = crackable = yes

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linagee:

juski: is doctor who big in the uk? hehe

[20:34:53]

juski:

dr who is crap in the UK

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GreyFoxx:

I love Dr Who :)

[20:35:10]

juski:

already deleted the xmas edition

[20:35:15]

GreyFoxx:

Though that XMas special the other day was a little blah

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: exactly. don't fsck up the house while you're at the party. (or in tech terms, don't use all the bandwidth and use it for hacking)

[20:35:23]

GreyFoxx:

hoping the next series is better

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: i love doctor who too and i'm not even in the UK. :)

[20:35:45]

juski:

torchwood 'combat' was a big improvement on previous episodes

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GreyFoxx:

juski: Agreed

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linagee:

juski: xmes edition where the tree goes spinning in circles and such? heh

[20:36:05]

linagee:

juski: season 2 is better

[20:36:06]

Dibblah:

linagee: And they say we don't have any exports.

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GreyFoxx:

and makes me wonder just how messed up Owen is

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GreyFoxx:

linagee: that was last year

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linagee:

Dibblah: i watch torchwood too! and that's not even broadcast!

[20:36:25]

juski:

heh. owen is one f'd up little bunny, fer sure

[20:36:25]

GreyFoxx:

but this year the ornaments fly around :)

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: you mean this year? when the daleks and cybermen both invade? hehehe

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Max0:

requested audio codec family [mp3] (afm=mp3lib) not available

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Max0:

i cant find mp3lib

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juski:

linagee: no he meant last yeah

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Max0:

?

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Dibblah:

Makes me wonder how much lesbianism they can fit into one series.

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juski:

Max0: google for mp3 codec on kubuntu

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GreyFoxx:

linagee: I'm talking about the Xmas special which didn't have any daleks in it

[20:37:05]

linagee:

Dibblah: they should play torchwood on scifi. i think it's an awesome spinoff from doctor who

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GreyFoxx:

sounds like you are referring to the end of the last series

[20:37:11]

Max0:

again thanks

[20:37:14]

juski:

looks like daleks are back in series 3

[20:37:15]

linagee:

GreyFoxx: end? :(

[20:37:21]

linagee:

GreyFoxx: i think you mean the end of rose. :p

[20:37:35]

GreyFoxx:

linagee: Seasons(series as they are known in the uk) have endings :)

[20:37:40]

juski:

still, better than that stupid spidery woman

[20:37:43]

linagee:

GreyFoxx: maybe the doctor will get a nice male companion this time around? ;)

[20:37:50]

juski:

linagee: nope

[20:37:54]

linagee:

no?

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GreyFoxx:

linagee: Nope, it's a cute girl

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juski:

that's what I said

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: how do you know?

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juski:

and she's no Billie Piper

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GreyFoxx:

same actress that had a bitpart in the torchwood place

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Dibblah:

It's _always_ a cute girl.

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juski:

take that how you will ;)

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GreyFoxx:

linagee: I read

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GreyFoxx:

and I saw the end of the xmas special that showed her

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linagee:

GreyFoxx: so is that the spoiler? doctor who picks up torchwood staff? they cross over again? heh

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linagee:

Dibblah: no it wasn't

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juski:

freya http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5146666.stm

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Dibblah:

This is the real xmas special. You're watching it behind, remember ;)

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GreyFoxx:

linagee: Same actress, I not the same "person" I believe

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linagee:

Dibblah: early doctor who had male companions. :p

[20:39:01]

juski:

he was gay back then though

[20:39:11]

linagee:

doctor who should be like captain jack. bisexual. :)

[20:39:15]

juski:

now he's just ambiguous

[20:39:37]

linagee:

juski: actually the old male companions were a tad ugly. too old.

[20:39:52]

juski:

the old dr whos were rubbish IMHO

[20:39:58]

linagee:

juski: indeed.

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linagee:

juski: i only watch them to get the backstory

[20:40:07]

juski:

especially back in the 1970s with all that BBC radiophonic workshop musak

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linagee:

juski: the old doctor whos are way slow. :-/

[20:40:18]

juski:

Roger Limb... ugh!

[20:40:45]

juski:

yeah they used to have like 8 part storylines

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linagee:

juski: it's like, here's your 12 minute dose of doctor who. oh and did we meniton? 7 minutes of that is a recap of last week!

[20:41:14]

juski:

supose they needed to get their money's worth out of the sets & stuff

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linagee:

juski: and that's another thing. not near enough special effects

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linagee:

juski: it's like in the old doctor who, you'd have special effects ONE time in the "8 part storyline"

[20:41:46]

juski:

linagee: they only have those recaps in countries where they have the attention span of a 5 year old

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linagee:

juski: in the new doctor who, special effects every 2 minutes. ;)

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juski:

a few points of note:

[20:42:12]

juski:

older episodes were made for very little money

[20:42:17]

juski:

effects cost $$$$$$$

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juski:

CGI is dirt cheap in relative terms these days

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linagee:

juski: they have many more effects now though. like i said, every 2 minutes it seems. ;)

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linagee:

juski: i think torchwood has even more special effects than doctor who. lol. or at least they make it seem that way.

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juski:

plus to make one lamp flash they needed a box the size of a car

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linagee:

juski: nowadays you could go to a home depot and build your own dalek. ;)

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Dibblah:

And they have the cheezy range-rover.

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juski:

dr who was first made before transistors were even invented if you remember

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juski:

ish

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linagee:

Dibblah: there was a doctor who that always rode cars with straight vertical seats. it made him look strange and prudish. LOL

[20:44:10]

juski:

anyway I need to go have some retail therapy while my athlon cooks its loins

[20:44:22]

juski:

arghhH!

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juski:

/usr/lib/libmythavcodec-0.20.so: undefined reference to `XvMCLoadQMatrix'

[20:44:36]

juski:

methinks the make thingy is broked

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Dibblah:

... 1963? Waaay after the transistor.

[20:44:53]

DVBMark:

remember US peeps that we are a season behind the UK in Doc Who. So they are about to start season 3 there as where we just finished season 2

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juski:

Dibblah: yeah maybe but you get my drift ;)

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Dibblah:

juski: I sense a disturbance in the make distclean...

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linagee:

they need to make a new "doctor crossover" lol. "The Eleven Doctors" :)

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DVBMark:

juski that is after doing the --disable-xvmc etc stuff?

[20:45:22]

juski:

yeah

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Max0:

juski ive followed the guide and one of codecs wont intsall

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Max0:

Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.

[20:45:28]

Max0:

This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or

[20:45:28]

Max0:

is only available from another source

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Dibblah:

Max0: Don't paste into the channel.

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linagee:

juski: EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

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juski:

Max0: you don't really need w32codecs unless you wanna play crippled files

[20:46:19]

juski:

who the hell encodes their cd /dvd collection with w32 codecs anyway?

[20:46:26]

linagee:

juski: i love the daleks in the new doctor who. they just go bezerk and start killing. the old series daleks are more like remote controlled killing bots.

[20:46:27]

juski:

in their right mind, I mean

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BULLE:

juski: im more inclined to think its people that download, uhm "public domain" file, and want to watch those =)

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Max0:

ok cheers

[20:46:58]

juski:

who'd even download wmv or wma files though?!

[20:47:02]

juski:

in their right mind, I mean

[20:47:02]

BULLE:

linagee: i have only seen the old daleks

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Max0:

hehe some porn is wmv

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linagee:

BULLE: do you know what a Mark III Travel Machine is? :)

[20:47:19]

Max0:

heh

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Max0:

:D

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linagee:

Max0: DRM porn?

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linagee:

Max0: porn that "phones home"?

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juski:

./configure --disable-firewire --enable-dvb --disable-hdhomerun --disable-dbox2 --disable-freebox --disable-crciprec --disable-xvmc --disable-xvmc-pro

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Max0:

ET porn?

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juski:

damn

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BULLE:

linagee: nope, i have only seen a few old epiodes of doctor who

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juski:

Tom Baker, ftw

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linagee:

Max0: no, i mean it contacts the creator of it to increment some counter or whatever

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Max0:

ah right

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juski:

Ecclestone came close, the Scot is nowhere near

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DVBMark:

don't know if it matters juski but there is also --disable-xvmc-vld

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BULLE:

Bernie Ecclestone ?

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juski:

Christopher

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linagee:

Max0: give me mpg any day. you can keep your wmv's to yourself. :p

[20:49:04]

juski:

Eccleston (sp?)

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juski:

anyway meanwhile, back in #mythtv-users....

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juski:

WARNING: If you plan to watch HDTV recordings you probably should buy an HDTV first

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juski:

(!)

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linagee:

juski: or a computer monitor

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juski:

and a faster frontend than an epia m10000

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juski:

;)

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Dibblah:

juski: I assume XVMC doesn't help enough?

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juski:

wth is configure _doing_ anyway?

[20:51:11]

juski:

Dibblah: heh. never, not since mythtv 0.20

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juski:

I need to look into that & see if the code can be made leaner

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Dibblah:

juski: Have a look through configure. It's quite instructional.

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Dibblah:

Oh, no, wait. I meant horrifying.

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juski:

I dont wanna know how it works. I just wonder wtf it's doing sitting there for 5 minutes

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linagee:

juski: what are you using? mythtv 0.21???

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juski:

no

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juski:

0.20-fixes

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linagee:

fixes for what

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juski:

0.20-fixes

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Dibblah:

If he didn't get that the first time, I doubt a repeat will help.

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Dibblah:

Fixes is the branch that most distributions should be pulling from.

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Dibblah:

0.20 + any major fixes that are unlikely to cause a regression.

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linagee:

0.20 + unstable fixes

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Dibblah:

No.

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Dibblah:

By definition, 0.20-fixes is stable.

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Dibblah:

More stable than 0.20.

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xris:

fixes means "fixes for bugs that were thought serious enough to not wait for .21"

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HannesAThome:

i can not get my remote ir harware to work. lircd says that it does not find licd.conf although it is in /etc/lirc

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juski:

wow. enable dma on hda & suddenly configure gets much faster

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HannesAThome:

has anyone had such a problem before_

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juski:

wtf was dma not enabled in the first place, Ubuntu?!

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jd86:

juski, :)

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defend:

any recomendations for nice remotes for myth?

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abarbaccia:

hey all – if i have a LocalBroadcast listing attached to my DVB card, but cannot tune all the channels in the listing (eg. the non digital ones) – will the non digital ones show up in the channel guide?

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defend:

FN~abarbaccia, yes

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defend:

unless you tell it not to list them in the channel editor

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abarbaccia:

which means if i go and schedule them then its not gonna know what to do

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defend:

they will record static or blank screen or what ever

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abarbaccia:

eh

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abarbaccia:

not too good

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abarbaccia:

so i should make them not visible if they don't have an xmltvid (after id'ing them)

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defend:

right

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Cybertoy:

hi

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Cybertoy:

anyone here happen to use myth2ipod?

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DVBMark:

will be getting a Zune soon so maybe then heh but not yet

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Cybertoy:

my wife got me a iPod video for christmas...

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Cybertoy:

so I'm trying to get myth2ipod to convert all movies to play on the ipod... but it seems like there's problems with really large files...

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Cybertoy:

the shorter ones work ... but once you're above 600–700 megs it won't work...

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PeterC:

seth|laptop: For Debian etch only svn-20061209–0.1 is available and that version still generate the ivtv DMA error.

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juski:

Cybertoy: try running them through ffmpeg first with ffmpeg -i foobar.mpg -acodec copy -vcodec copy -o boofar.mpg

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ollekalle:

Hi, I am having problems with my vanilla MythDVD installed on ubuntu edgy using default latest versions available through apt-get. I have two DVDs to test on. The first one displays the first logo of the DVD and then stops. the second do not start at all. frontend loggs shows some problems such as: "Error reading NV packet". (The two quite new DVDs works fine on my xbox). Any clues on what can be wrong?

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juski:

ollekalle: the DVDs are encrippled. you need to install some software (which we can't talk about here) to decode them

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juski:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=ho . . . ch&meta=

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juski:

any more uninvited MSG folks will be getting kicked

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Cybertoy:

juski, tnx.. I'll try that.

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seth|laptop:

PeterC: yeah, I haven't had any trouble with the recent svn-fixes versions

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brad_mssw:

GreyFoxx: got that latest upnp patch from 0.20-fixes, fixed the djmount crasher I was getting ... still no myth music listed though

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Max0:

hi all im gettin a picture with mplayer but ive got no sound

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Max0:

which i think its down to codecs

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PeterC:

seth|laptop: I'll stick with QT until next update hits the Debian etch repository. Thanks for the tips!

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defend:

hey juski did you ever finish that template you were working on?

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defend:

i now have my myth box on a decent tv so i would love to give it a try

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spuck00:

in mythvideo gallery-browser when you press enter on a movie is it possible to change the command to play file instead of open full details?

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Max0:

ah just found something intresting with my sound issue

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Max0:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_HVR_1100

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Max0:

says to edit /etc/modules.d/alsa

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Max0:

but i dont have that folder or file in /etc

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Zider:

Max0: running gentoo?

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Max0:

no

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Max0:

but thats all ive found for that card and ive got the same issue

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Zider:

gentoo adds /etc/modules.d/* to /etc/modules.conf

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Zider:

so that's where you need to put it

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Max0:

in /etc/modules.conf

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Max0:

ok thanks

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JoeyJoeJo:

all of my upcoming recordings say "recorder offline" and I can't watch live tv because it says the tuner is in use when it's not... any ideas?

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Max0:

zider i dont have a /etc/modules.conf

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** Max0 scatches head **

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Zider:

umm

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Zider:

your dist is broken ;)

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Max0:

i got /etc/modules

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Max0:

looks like modules to load at boot

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Cybertoy:

hmm.. so I noticed today that all my transcode's fail with status 247 ...

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Z_Morek:

anyone here good with lirc?

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namuch:

anyone running mythtv on the latest xorg (7.1), and using chromakeyosd?

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tcpsyn:

z_morek, what do you need?

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Z_Morek:

tcpsyn I run etc/init.d/lirc and test with irw

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Z_Morek:

it goes to a new command prompt

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Z_Morek:

and lircd is no longer running

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tcpsyn:

I read something about that yesterday, someone was having the same problem. irw kills lircd

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Z_Morek:

I've trolled google and docs...

[22:12:18]

Z_Morek:

I've tried compiling and using the packages... nothing

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Z_Morek:

I get the sense I'm missing something small but obvious

[22:12:40]

Z_Morek:

or it's something ubuntu related...

[22:13:07]

tcpsyn:

http://forum.byopvr.com/dvr/index.php/topic,2819.0.html

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Z_Morek:

hrmm

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Z_Morek:

running in non daemon mode it says something about /dev/lirc not openable

[22:16:22]

Z_Morek:

even with sudo

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Z_Morek:

ugh

[22:18:06]

tcpsyn:

z_morek, oh yeah, it was the lirc_serial kernel module

[22:18:18]

Z_Morek:

fix?

[22:18:58]

tcpsyn:

make sure you've got it loaded

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nikozu:

so what is the deal with this MonolithMC system.... are they paying zap2it for the guide data?

[22:22:31]

JoeyJoeJo:

all of my upcoming recordings say "recorder offline" and I can't watch live tv because it says the tuner is in use when it's not... any ideas?

[22:23:05]

juski:

Max0: yeah /etc/modules is the list of modules to load at boot on ubunty

[22:23:20]

tcpsyn:

juski, your theme rocks.

[22:23:56]

juski:

I know :)

[22:24:00]

juski:

but thanks

[22:24:07]

Max0:

so is /etc/modules where i need to add the line from that guide?

[22:24:12]

Max0:

im well confused

[22:24:26]

juski:

Max0: depends. do you want to stop it loading AND later load it manually?

[22:24:47]

Max0:

i just want sound on my TV card

[22:24:51]

Max0:

i can code a front end

[22:25:00]

Max0:

if mplayer works with sound

[22:25:20]

juski:

does the hvr1100 have audio capture onboard like?

[22:26:27]

juski:

I think you're on about messing with the anlogue side of it

[22:26:27]

Max0:

i belive so "his particular card uses the PCI interface to broadcast its sound"

[22:26:45]

juski:

which is ill advised with mythtv 0.19 & mythtv 0.20 & mythtv 0.20-fixes

[22:26:52]

spuck00:

where do I install themes? I use gentoo, thanks..

[22:26:59]

tcpsyn:

I'm still stuck trying to get mythstreamtv working. The debian binaries dont include mp3 support, and every compliation that I've tried doesn't seem to resolve the issue.

[22:27:02]

juski:

/usr/share/mythtv/themes

[22:27:07]

tcpsyn:

It'll stream video, but not audio.

[22:27:23]

juski:

tcpsyn: get libmad from the debian multimedia repos

[22:27:39]

juski:

oops liblame :)

[22:27:54]

Max0:

could liblame be teh same as my issue

[22:27:59]

juski:

yeah

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nikozu:

juski: have you heard of MonolithMC?

[22:28:05]

Max0:

oo

[22:28:11]

juski:

going to watch some telly

[22:28:22]

juski:

Max0: google for mp3 playback on ubungee :)

[22:28:40]

juski:

or just add thedebian multimedia repo to /etc/apt/sources.list ;)

[22:28:47]

juski:

then apt-get update

[22:28:58]

juski:

then apt-get install libmp3lame or whatever it is

[22:29:04]

juski:

anyway.. afk

[22:29:07]

Max0:

thanks

[22:29:07]

juski:

and beer!

[22:29:33]

tcpsyn:

juski, I've had liblame

[22:31:10]

ollekalle:

Hi, My Hauppage PVR 500 refuses to find any channel by scanning (I can see no-channel-noice though). Any suggestions/ideas/docs?

[22:32:54]

kormoc:

usually you don't scan with one of those cards

[22:33:09]

kormoc:

you just set the cable type correctly and download your guide data and it works

[22:34:08]

ollekalle:

kormoc: hmm.. Ok.. I need to fin dsuch guide data then... anyways, shouldn't the scan work?

[22:34:23]

nikozu:

kormoc: you heard of this MonolithMC pre-packaged MythTV system?

[22:34:43]

kormoc:

nikozu, alas, I have not nikozu

[22:35:24]

kormoc:

ollekalle, I don't know, never tried. XMLtv is the default for the world, or zap2it for the US

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nikozu:

kormoc: hrmm, it's a pre-packaged myth system, https://monolithmc.com/index.php

[22:36:00]

ollekalle:

kormoc: thanks.

[22:36:14]

nikozu:

i thought the last time someone tried to sell a system like that, zap2it threatened to discontinue providing free guide data

[22:36:43]

kormoc:

nikozu, depends on if they come presetup with zap2it or not

[22:36:58]

nikozu:

what do you mean by that?

[22:37:14]

kormoc:

well, part of the setup process could be, setup a zap2it account

[22:37:18]

kormoc:

which is fine

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nikozu:

even though they are profiting from the system?

[22:38:42]

kormoc:

well, as long as the end user themselves are doing the zap2it signups, zap2it doesn't really care, as they just want those metrics

[22:39:16]

nikozu:

yeah, i guess so

[22:39:52]

nikozu:

hrmm, i really wonder about that then after reading their FAQ:

[22:39:55]

nikozu:

How does the MonolithMC get its Channel Guide data?

[22:39:55]

nikozu:

By using the supplied ethernet connection the MonolithMC can log online and download the content specific to your area. This means the MonolithMC must be wired into your household network (also for network file transfer purposes).

[22:40:11]

nikozu:

lol

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nikozu:

kormoc: actually, i don't think it is acceptable.. i just went back and dug thru my zap2it emails:

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nikozu:

When you signed up for Zap2it Labs, you agreed to a contract that states the service is available for non-commercial, personal use only. A few commercial entities have chosen to ignore these contractual terms in order to receive television listings without paying. We know who these entities are; you know who they are.

[22:50:16]

nikozu:

These violations must end.

[22:50:16]

nikozu:

If you purchased a hardware or software product that receives its television listings from Zap2it Labs' DataDirect or, indirectly, through XMLTV, you may be violating our contract. It is critical that you and your vendor abide by our contractual terms, lest everyone suffer the consequences.

[22:51:41]

nikozu:

that is from several years back, but i am sure it still holds, and i seriously doubt this MonolithMC company is paying any dues :P

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Merlino:

hi

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Merlino:

I have little strange problem on channels with more that 1 audio stream (AC3)

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Merlino:

I get prebuffer pauses with ac3 streams and not with mono/stereo streams....any idea?

[22:56:01]

defend:

is there a limit how a channel number can be?

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defend:

i setup a new video source on zap for my hd listing but myth doesnt seem to accept the vaules and wont scan up high enough to tune them

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HaDAk:

heyas.

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HaDAk:

can anyone explain to me why i'm getting only feedback, instead of video display?

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briand:

defend: an HD channel may be called "942" or whatever, but it's still actually broadcast on a frequency in the UHF range... that's probably the number you need to determine for tuning purposes.

[23:02:09]

briand:

HaDAk: probably something is set up incorrectly. ;)

[23:02:17]

HaDAk:

thanks for the insight. ;p

[23:02:19]

HaDAk:

any idea what?

[23:02:34]

briand:

as a guess, I'd say you didn't mute the input to your sound card.

[23:02:42]

HaDAk:

it's a pvr-150, installed and configured with knoppmyth.

[23:03:02]

HaDAk:

and all i seem to be getting is static.

[23:03:22]

HaDAk:

it's pretty, but not quite what i'm going for here

[23:03:22]

briand:

okay, so you mis-spoke when you said you were getting feedback, then?

[23:03:32]

HaDAk:

yes

[23:03:36]

HaDAk:

snow, not feedback. sorry.

[23:03:41]

briand:

first things first, then...

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cureless:

HaDAk: you have your input set as the tunner, you probably want s-video or composite

[23:04:04]

briand:

what version of ivtv are you using, is it loading properly, and what kernel revision are you running?

[23:04:10]

cureless:

HaDAk: or you don't have the tuner set to the right channel

[23:04:21]

HaDAk:

cureless: you're probably right.

[23:04:23]

cureless:

HaDAk: use ivtv-tune

[23:04:34]

HaDAk:

i'm using whatever knoppmyth set up.

[23:04:44]

HaDAk:

latest version of knoppmyth, that is.

[23:04:48]

briand:

cureless, that's the correct command for some versions of ivtv modules.

[23:05:14]

cureless:

v4l2-ctl for others?

[23:05:24]

briand:

HaDAk: that's akin to saying "please fix my Ford product", without specifying which ford product it might be.

[23:05:33]

HaDAk:

^^

[23:05:44]

briand:

type, at a command prompt, "uname -a" (without the quotes)

[23:05:47]

HaDAk:

unfortunately, i don't have the manual that came with said ford product.

[23:06:19]

briand:

actually, you do, it's available by typing "man" (again, without the quotes).

[23:06:21]

briand:

;)

[23:06:22]

HaDAk:

linux mythtv 2.6.17-chw-8

[23:06:30]

HaDAk:

yes. well.

[23:06:36]

HaDAk:

i had an early morning, and a late night.

[23:06:37]

HaDAk:

:)

[23:06:38]

briand:

ah, okay.. so you're running kernel revision 2.6.17

[23:06:42]

HaDAk:

yessum

[23:06:50]

briand:

next up, which ivtv version are you running?

[23:07:07]

HaDAk:

how can i find out?

[23:07:13]

briand:

type "ivtvctl --version" (without the quotes)

[23:07:40]

HaDAk:

0.7.0

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RasQulec:

I'm using the zap2it guide information, but it tells me the shows on channel 29 are coming on on 27 [and I like watching 27] Can I swap the guide data for some channels? I looked into the channel editor in mythtv-setup and on mythweb but they didnt seem to have any effect when I changed the xmltvid

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rogue780:

has anyone here gotten lirc to work w/ubuntu?

[23:08:16]

briand:

HaDAk: okay, that would indicate you have the right version of ivtv for your kernel

[23:08:22]

HaDAk:

horray!

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RasQulec:

rogue780: yes

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briand:

HaDAk: however, i've surmised that, for best results, running 2.6.15 w/ ivtv 0.4.x or running 2.6.18 with ivtv 0.8.x is the best bet...

[23:09:15]

rogue780:

RasQulec: i followed the guide on the ubuntu site, but when I run irw, i get no feedback

[23:09:19]

briand:

HaDAk: regardless, check dmesg after booting to see if your ivtv driver loaded properly.

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RasQulec:

are you using the wintv pvr remote?

[23:09:41]

briand:

HaDAk: if you've booted recently, just type "dmesg" at the terminal prompt.

[23:10:04]

cureless:

(or cat /var/log/dmesg)

[23:10:05]

briand:

HaDAk: there's a whole big section between === start ivtv === and === end ivtv == that you're interested in.

[23:10:13]

HaDAk:

lemme reboot. i'll check that.

[23:10:22]

briand:

or, see above.

[23:10:38]

cureless:

HaDAk: you don't need to reboot

[23:10:43]

briand:

just cat /var/log/dmesg (or, better yet, "less /var/log/dmesg")

[23:10:49]

HaDAk:

many times, you don't.

[23:11:07]

briand:

HaDAk: it's rare that you need to shutdown/reboot a linux box.

[23:11:22]

HaDAk:

true.

[23:11:28]

briand:

that's because bill gates' minions have not written software for it. ;)

[23:11:35]

HaDAk:

haha

[23:11:46]

HaDAk:

just goes to show how dated redmond is.

[23:11:47]

HannesAThome:

does anyone know if there is a irc channel for lirc?

[23:11:58]

HaDAk:

7, 8 years behind current technology?

[23:12:04]

briand:

HannesAThome: did you try #lirc ??

[23:12:28]

HannesAThome:

yes, but unfortunatelly there is just on user

[23:13:07]

HannesAThome:

it claims that it can not open /etc/lircd.conf although it is placed in /etc/lirc/lircd.conf

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** briand thinks .oO(so, if you own an Alfa Romeo, and need an Alfa Romeo expert, but there isn't one in town, you just go to the Volkswagen dealership and ask...) **

[23:13:45]

HaDAk:

alright. found the lines for ivtv

[23:14:11]

HannesAThome:

heheh briand

[23:14:18]

briand:

HaDAk: okay... check to see if there are errors loading stuff, especially if it's having trouble determining what your tuner type is...

[23:14:27]

HannesAThome:

briand i just didn't know where to look for help

[23:14:35]

briand:

HannesAThome: here's a linux tip:

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cureless:

why not just try to change the input?

[23:14:50]

briand:

HannesAThome: /etc/lircd.conf != /etc/lirc/lircd.conf

[23:15:03]

HannesAThome:

briand, i tried already this

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HaDAk:

doesn't look like there are any errors

[23:15:48]

HaDAk:

but.

[23:15:52]

HaDAk:

it does say

[23:16:00]

briand:

HannesAThome: it's looking for /etc/lircd.conf and you don't have that. you have /etc/lirc/lircd.conf No matter how many times I put the bread on the kitchen counter, I can never find it on the bathroom vanity.

[23:16:03]

HaDAk:

tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set

[23:16:15]

defend:

does any one here use a fusionhdtv5 card?

[23:16:24]

briand:

HaDAk: ah. could be it... try manually setting the tuner type.

[23:16:27]

defend:

this thing is driving me nuts

[23:16:33]

briand:

HaDAk: i know your next question, i'm thinking....

[23:16:39]

HaDAk:

briand: i bet you do. ^^

[23:16:39]

HannesAThome:

briand heheh, yes but i moved it to /etc/ and it still doesnt find it

[23:17:57]

HaDAk:

[pause] pizza is here.

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briand:

HaDAk: i have a pvr-500, which is supposed to be 2 pvr-150's, so you might try specifying tuner type 57

[23:19:32]

briand:

you'd specify that where you load the ivtv module: something along the lines of "option ivtv tuner=57" or somesuch.. you might scan the wiki for the proper syntax, etc under knoppix

[23:19:38]

** briand runs Fedora Core **

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rogue780:

what port is the serial port on the back of the computer usually? it's usually com1 right? is there a way to tell?

[23:22:24]

briand:

HaDAk: pizza? where's my slice(s) ??

[23:23:31]

defend:

hmm i used atsc scan and got some channels is there a way yo insert this in myth .20?

[23:24:23]

briand:

defend: the .20 release, or .20-fixes or .20 SVN ?

[23:24:32]

defend:

ahh

[23:24:34]

defend:

hold on

[23:25:01]

defend:

mythtv 0.20–0.3sarge1

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briand:

if you're running SVN, you'd scan for channels within myth.. there's no longer an option to "import" a 'channels.conf' file.

[23:25:06]

defend:

what ever that might br

[23:25:16]

briand:

defend: your guess is as good as mine.

[23:25:33]

defend:

i doubt it is svn

[23:25:38]

defend:

is there a way to check

[23:25:42]

briand:

defend: there's a page on the wiki about creating/importing a 'channels.conf' file, tho...

[23:26:03]

briand:

if you search there, you'll find the page I'm talking about, I'm sure...

[23:26:53]

briand:

to create the channels.conf file, I *think* you'd use the command line utilities (atsc scan), etc. I don't have an atsc card, at the moment, so I'm not entirely sure

[23:27:19]

briand:

but i do remember reading about it at one point.

[23:28:00]

briand:

in .20 SVN there's a "Scan For Channels" bit for ATSC, QAM, etc that's greatly re-worked over what was in the .20 release, from what I understand

[23:28:33]

briand:

in other news: pizza sounds like an excellent suggestion. i shall find my phone and order some...

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briand:

should be here right about kickoff time... :)

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HaDAk:

alright, i'm back.

[23:32:09]

HaDAk:

so, briand, you were saying... about setting the tuner type?

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juski:

ah fack

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juski:

/usr/lib/libmythavcodec-0.20.so: undefined reference to `XvMCLoadQMatrix'

[23:35:05]

juski:

I think I know what the problem is. ubuntu's xvmc wrapper

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briand:

HaDAk: see above.

[23:36:32]

briand:

HaDAk: i was away... well, on _your_ subliminal suggestion, actually... ordering pizza.

[23:36:53]

HaDAk:

:)

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HaDAk:

i do what i can.

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HaDAk:

ok, i amended the line. how do i reparse the files, or should i just...reboot?

[23:40:49]

RasQulec:

you could restart the program whos files you changed

[23:41:09]

HaDAk:

that would be a wondeful idea.

[23:41:13]

HaDAk:

*reboots*

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briand:

...which would require, in this case, unloading and reloading the module.

[23:41:35]

opello:

hardly worth a reboot

[23:41:52]

HaDAk:

since i'm realizing more and more by talking to you fellows that i'm a complete and udder (hehe cows.) noob... i'll reboot -.-

[23:41:59]

RasQulec:

):

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RasQulec:

dont

[23:42:06]

RasQulec:

then you wont learn what to do

[23:42:17]

briand:

exactly. :)

[23:42:23]

HaDAk:

next time you can lrn me.

[23:42:39]

opello:

modprobe -r module

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opello:

modprobe module :)

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RasQulec:

wee

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HaDAk:

^^

[23:43:03]

HaDAk:

that seems benign.

[23:43:04]

opello:

tres learnt

[23:43:18]

HaDAk:

lazer mouse, i heart thee.

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briand:

besides, we want you to see an uptime of > 364 days next year at this time on your mythtv box...

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HaDAk:

for thoust allowist me to usith you upon carpet.

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opello:

briand: heh

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RasQulec:

speaking of uptime I had a windows 98 lappy with 6 or more months of uptime once :D

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briand:

opello: it's possible... my 0.18.1 myth system ran for 283 days straight... then I added another card, upgraded myth, etc...

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opello:

i never thought it not possible

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HaDAk:

horray. no errors for ivtv in dmesg ^^

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RasQulec:

yay

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opello:

i don't have a ups though, most i've had was 200 some

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briand:

next quest: see if it tunes a channel now. :)

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betolley:

My audio with Mythtv just started being really high pitched.There is not a hum but the voices are high. I started w2ith 0.19.1 so I upgraded to 0.20.something . Any ideas?

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opello:

briand: but i did get 540+ on a sun box running linux :)

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HaDAk:

yes. that.

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briand:

opello: i had 800+ on an old sparc 5

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HaDAk:

should it be set to tuner or composite?

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rogue780:

I have a homebrew serial ir receiver. when I run ./configure for the lirc install and I go to configure the driver, part of the options are [1] With transmitter diode [2] Software generated carrier [3] Igor Cesko's variation. which of those do I need to have checked? I'm using the serial receiver with a hauppauge remote

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briand:

HaDAk: tuner, if you're tuning

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briand:

;)

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HaDAk:

;p

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briand:

HaDAk: composite is for the composite video input

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HaDAk:

omfg

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HaDAk:

television!

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marxes:

can someone set me straight on how make/qmake/configure work?

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** HaDAk dances **

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briand:

rogue780: which way did you build your "homebrew serial ir receiver" ?

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marxes:

My understanding was that those utilities will set variables for all the makefiles in the project to read from

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briand:

HaDAk: yay!

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HaDAk:

now.

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HaDAk:

let's see if the remote works.

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briand:

HaDAk: for that, you'll need to set up lirc :)

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HaDAk:

knoppmyth asked me several questions about my remote and such... and it worked in the past, but not anymore.

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HaDAk:

course...it worked with the wintv go

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HaDAk:

(piece of shit card that is.)

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briand:

blech.

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briand:

did your pvr-150 come with a remote?

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HaDAk:

yep

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HaDAk:

same remote, in fact.

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rogue780:

briand: I bought it...i used to have it working in fedora a few months ago... but it's different with ubuntu, which is what I'm using now

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briand:

easy enough to find a mythtv lircd.conf file for the "grey hauppauge remote", then

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HaDAk:

http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=Hauppauge250Remote

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HaDAk:

^^

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briand:

HaDAk: that's the pvr-250

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HaDAk:

i searched by remote model

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HaDAk:

te a415-hpg

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HaDAk:

the, not te.

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briand:

you might try looking in www.mythtv.org/wiki/ and searching there...

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rogue780:

briand: this is where I bought the receiver: http://www.irblaster.info/receiver.html

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briand:

rogue780: and it doesn't say on their site or in the documentation what options you need for lirc's ./configure ?

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opello:

marxes: qmake condences .pro/.pri files (maybe more?) into a Makefile, make runs off that

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rogue780:

briand: negative

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RasQulec:

read the faq rogue

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RasQulec:

its got info

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briand:

rogue780: are they three mutually-exclusive options? if so, it shouldn't take you more than 3 compiles to find out...

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HaDAk:

ok, i found the conf file...but i would like to enable the wireless on my mythbox to download it there.

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HaDAk:

...actually, i kinda want that going all the time

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rogue780:

RasQulec: thanks

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rogue780:

briand: another problem, is that I'm not sure which port it's plugged into. I'm assuming it's com1

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briand:

HaDAk: wireless? blech. too much of a pain, sometimes.

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briand:

rogue780: there's nothing called "com1" on a linux box...

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HaDAk:

briand: router is two floors up. moving the box isn't an option. wireless is all i've got.

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marxes:

opello, ok I am trying to get -L directive into all the makefiles, I tried a couple spots but I can get it to cascade down to all the individual make files

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briand:

rogue780: but you're probably right... its the first serial port

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opello:

marxes: add a LIBS += blah in an appropriate .pro file, then qmake

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opello:

marxes: i guess that's a convention, check the Makefile and profile to make sure that whatever you're working on calls it 'LIBS'

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rogue780:

RasQulec: grr...none of those links work

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HaDAk:

effing wireless.

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RasQulec:

rogue780: they worked for me

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rogue780:

RasQulec: could you pastebin the instructions for debian for me then? not sure why it won't work

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marxes:

opello: ok I'll see what I can do...

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RasQulec:

rogue780: which link do you want?

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