Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Sunday, December 24th, 2006, 00:02 UTC

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blahblahblah:

this is absolutely driving me nuts and it's probably something really really stupid

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blahblahblah:

mythbackend is running but the frontend just won't acknowledge it no matter what I set my backend ip to to run on the same machine...

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blahblahblah:

AHHH

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kormoc:

can you telnet to the backend?

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kormoc:

telnet ip 6543

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blahblahblah:

i'm on the backend right now

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kormoc:

i mean to the myth backend process

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blahblahblah:

...

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blahblahblah:

if I were to try "telnet 127.0.0.1 6543" it says unable to connect to remote host

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kormoc:

that is pointing to the backend not running

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kormoc:

ps ax | grep backend shows processes?

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blahblahblah:

but if I run "ps -e | grep myth" shows mythbackend

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blahblahblah:

could this be related to the init.d script used to start the backend?

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dcgaber:

hi all

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dcgaber:

i was wondering if someone could help with firewire

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kormoc:

blahblahblah, hrm... let me get a netstat command for ya...

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kormoc:

blahblahblah, netstat -l

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kormoc:

blahblahblah, does it have a line akin to "tcp 0 0 *:6543 *:* LISTEN"

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blahblahblah:

kormoc, I see nothing like that

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blahblahblah:

kormoc, the only protcol it seems to like is "unix"

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kormoc:

blahblahblah, then for some reason your backend is running but didn't bind to a socket to listen to

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blahblahblah:

kormoc, and nothing is even in the viscinity of 6543

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null:

Is it somehow possible to get the modeline that the nvidia-driver automatically generates extracted? I can't get my modeline for my tv working...

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blahblahblah:

kormoc, where do I go from here?

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kormoc:

blahblahblah, you can try restarting the backend and see if it fixes itself

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blahblahblah:

seeing as how mythbackend is started with a script I think I'll troll thru that and see if I can find any discrepancies

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blahblahblah:

I'm just getting used to the setup of ubuntu

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kormoc:

depending on if you have selinux enabled or not, you might be having it blocked via that, but It don't think ubuntu uses selinux by default

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blahblahblah:

is there a better way to restart it rather than pkill and then run it again?

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kormoc:

usually /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart or similar (mythtv-backend, myth-backend, etc)

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blahblahblah:

I think I might have it

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Dr_willis:

Ubuntu does not use selinux by default. :)

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blahblahblah:

I think the backend is hanging because it apparently doesnt' have access to the recordings folder

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Dr_willis:

I saw a howto on getting MythTV all setup. but i got the tuner in another card. so i never tried getting the backend going. just the frontend

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blahblahblah:

problem solved

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blahblahblah:

mythbackend hung because it didn't have permissions to the recordings folder... changed permissions... all fixed

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blahblahblah:

thanks kormoc... I just needed a little guidance in the right direction

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kormoc:

nifty :)

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blahblahblah:

only problem is my case is noisy... so I kinda whack it here or there to stop it... and I installed my new HDD in the floppy bay... after a good whack

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blahblahblah:

it made some funny noises

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blahblahblah:

a SATA hdd can take some punishment right?

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kormoc:

uhh, sometimes, but usually not

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blahblahblah:

:-(

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blahblahblah:

off to tinker...

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dcgaber:

can anyone help me compile the firewire_tester program?

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stevenm:

Hello. Does anyone have OS X binaries that use the protocol version 31?

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stevenm:

Alternatively, what is the latest release version of the backend which still uses version 30 ?

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kormoc:

stevenm, you can look it up in the timeline at svn.mythtv.org

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stevenm:

kormoc, thanks

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dcgaber:

kormoc, do you know about the firewire_tester program?

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kormoc:

nopers

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darkfrog:

I'm trying to figure out why MythArchive goes through fine and then shows an empty log screen when I hit "Finish". I've checked the wiki and what it suggests in the FAQ are already correct.

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darkfrog:

Is there any place I can look to find out what it's failing on?

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Dr_willis:

hmm i think in the myth dir. theres a dir that it keeps some logs

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Dr_willis:

/myth/mythburn/temp has some logs i see ...

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Dr_willis:

I just created an dvd.iso image today as a test.. copying it over to my other box to now burn it.

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darkfrog:

using MythBurn or MythArchive?

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Dr_willis:

not sure how the 2 are related/differ.. :) i 'think' the MythArchive stuff is under 'Optical disks -> Burn DVD' on this box.. so which one would that be. :)

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darkfrog:

aha, I only have python-2.3.4 and it says in dependencies that I need 2.3.5

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Dr_willis:

heh.. there ya go!

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darkfrog:

argh, but my apt repositories don't have 2.3.5

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Dr_willis:

:(

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darkfrog:

This is a FC3 box

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Dr_willis:

I 'cheat' and use KnoppMyth

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Dr_willis:

:)

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Paladine:

is it possible to run mythtv-setup with mythfrontend running as well?

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darkfrog:

last time I looked at it, it wasn't very stable...I stick with Fedora and Myth.

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darkfrog:

Paladine, yes

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Paladine:

cool cos I have like 700 channels to edit by hand and I need the stb's OSD to do it

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Paladine:

so I need to run frontend whilst doing it

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darkfrog:

that sucks

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Paladine:

also anyone know if there is a newer version of the xmltv channel ID file than the one in the ubuntu repos?

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Paladine:

cos the one I have is missing a bunch of channels

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darkfrog:

Anyone know a repository that supports FC3 that would have python-2.3.5?

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Axo:

Hello, anybody know why mythfilldatabase seems to be always running? When I look at "status" from mythfrontend it aways says running.

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Dr_willis:

i think the status thing just gets updated every so often. i got a task thats been running for ages.. :) and its not running according to top, or ps ax

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Axo:

Yeah same I cant see it when looking at "top"

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Dr_willis:

Im still exploring my MythTV box and stuff.. so i may be missing somthing.. but it looks like its just a log file that never got cleaned out

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Axo:

ok i'll rm some logs and see if helps

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Axo:

It cant be much as I still have 8 days of data in the guide

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Axo:

s/still/always

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Dr_willis:

yea, hmm.. MythWeb aint letting me log in.. grrr..

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Axo:

Thats a whole other question from me.... I only get one channel showing with mythweb guide..

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rexer:

>>> x11-themes/mythtv-themes-0.20 merged. HORRAY

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Dr_willis:

Hmm. MythWeb was working.. but now i cant login.

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Dr_willis:

the user name should be 'mythtv' right? heh. I set the password, again just now with htpasswd -c htpasswd mythtv

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daProfessa:

breaker breaker

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daProfessa:

anyone ?

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daProfessa:

got a device question that I cannot find answered

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daProfessa:

online

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Dr_willis:

hmm

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daProfessa:

anyone got experience with pcHDTV 5500"

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Dr_willis:

Not I.

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daProfessa:

well

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daProfessa:

when scanning for channels

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daProfessa:

signal goes from 100% to zero and back

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daProfessa:

but alwasy get ATSC signal and NTSC errors or timeouts

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** rexer finishes first completed compilation of mythv.. **

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rexer:

i've been trying to get a mythbox running for months..almost a year now..

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rexer:

mostly off an on spurts..

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rexer:

weeks go by without trying..

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Dr_willis:

heh.. i took the easy route and a unused pc + knoppmyth.

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rexer:

then one day.. i feel like trying again.. and finaly i get a completed myth compile..

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Dr_willis:

a few hrs to install/read docs.. and figure out how to configure it right. :)

[02:27:07]

Dr_willis:

I noticed the thing aint zapping comercials now..

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Dr_willis:

:(

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rexer:

im no expert or anything. but i didnt know that there was a bootcd version..

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Dr_willis:

KnoppMyth has a installer, and a livecd-frontend (that i aint got to work yet)

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** rexer is running **

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rexer:

Pentium III (Coppermine)

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Dr_willis:

Hmm.. the 'comfree' checkbox under mythweb mythweb/settings/channels settings.. when 'checked' for a channel – tells it to auto-tag the comercials for all shows recorded for that channel right?

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Dr_willis:

or am i missreading the setting/webinterface?

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crudpuppy:

knoppmyth didnt work "quite right" with my setup

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crudpuppy:

so I just decided to go with a distro I know better

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rexer:

how did you get it tweeked for your box?

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GreyFoxx:

crudpuppy: Almost the best choice

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crudpuppy:

almost?

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xris:

Dr_willis: no, it means that channel has no commercials, so don't bother running commflag

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Dr_willis:

xris, AHA!

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Dr_willis:

:)

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GreyFoxx:

crudpuppy: sorry meant "Always". I was talking to someone IRL and typing at the same time

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Dr_willis:

well that explains it. :)

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crudpuppy:

I've got to figure out how to get ride of this slight blue on the left

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crudpuppy:

alignment is off...like its leaving part of the menu there when watching tc

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crudpuppy:

tv

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GreyFoxx:

a vertical blue line at the very edge ?

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crudpuppy:

yeah

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GreyFoxx:

use xvattr

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xris:

Dr_willis: imho useless, since even on the commfree channels you'd want to flag any start/end stuff if you record early,e tc.

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crudpuppy:

xvattr?

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GreyFoxx:

yup, and change that colour to something else, like black :)

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GreyFoxx:

that's just the XV overlay not being overlayed "perfectly"

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GreyFoxx:

IE, driver/card's fault :)

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crudpuppy:

so its a problem with the nvidia card then?

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Dr_willis:

all righty.. got that figured out.. now.. what i i want 'Comercial AUto-Skip' to be 'on' by default? seems every new show i watch i have to re-enable skipping.

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GreyFoxx:

crudpuppy: the card or the driver

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crudpuppy:

ah

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rexer:

may be back..

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GreyFoxx:

those of use using regular TV's just turn up overscanning to push it past the visible edge of the screen :)

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crudpuppy:

ah, well I'm using a regular tv

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crudpuppy:

but, whats overscanning?

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crudpuppy:

lol

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crudpuppy:

remember I'm new to this stuff still

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crudpuppy:

just got a working myth box today

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xris:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

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Dr_willis:

heh – not talked about overscanning in ages.. not since my amiga/C64 days

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sigger_:

on that topic – anyone know if EPIA cannot do overscanning?

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xris:

sigger_: epia is a platform, not a video card.

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xris:

i.e. different video cards...

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sigger_:

xris: sorry, you're right. specifically, the onboard CLE266 on certain EPIA models

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sigger_:

and FWIW I'm using knoppmyth R5C7

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mateo:

i am trying to set up my lircrc config file. it says to save it to ~/.mythtv/lircrc but that file doesn't exist...

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crudpuppy:

dern, wonder why it skips some

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mateo:

i see the problem, file already existed, fixed it.

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mateo:

does the lircrc file work by tying remote buttons to keyboard layouts?

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mateo:

looks that way

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rexer:

do i have to signup with Zap2it?

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CyberKnet2:

only if you want north american tv listings

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rexer:

alrighty..

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CyberKnet2:

make sense, or did you have another question in mind?

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rexer:

hmm..

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crudpuppy:

dern I forgot to emerge mythdvd

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crudpuppy:

hmmm, also don't seem to have all the channel info...like channel name

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crudpuppy:

its got the programming inof

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crudpuppy:

info

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crudpuppy:

but not channel name etc

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amrit|zzz:

hey folks

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amrit|zzz:

the first time i ran mythtv-setup, it asked me for my language, and then simply told me to run mythfilldatabase. when i do this, i'm told "there are no channel sources defined, did you run the setup program?"

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amrit|zzz:

is it just telling me to run mythtv-setup again? (this doesn't work, naturally)

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Dr_willis:

amrit, what disrto you using? it should be asking about a dozen questions and then some.

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amrit:

hey Dr_willis. fresh build on slackware. this is my first time setting up myth.

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Dr_willis:

Hmm.. you are running mythtv-setup as root?

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amrit:

Dr_willis: either as user or as root, it acts the same

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Dr_willis:

just asks the language then exists?

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Dr_willis:

exits..

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Dr_willis:

:)

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amrit:

no – it doesn't even ask the language. just tells me about running mythfilldatabase. i hit enter, it exits. if i go into the mythconverg db and drop all the tables, then run mythtv-setup, i'll be prompted for language pref again... but the same behavior, nothing extra

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Dr_willis:

bummer.. definatly somthing wrong then.

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amrit:

all i did with the db beforehand was to "mysql -u root -p < mc.sql" to setup the initial db & perms

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amrit:

yeah :/

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Dr_willis:

Im glad i cheat and use KnoppMyth

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amrit:

hah

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Dr_willis:

I just have to twiddle with apt-get every so often. heh

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amrit:

Dr_willis: i assume mythtv-setup is supposed to prompt you for your zap2it info, to properly configure mythfilldatabase?

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Dr_willis:

yep – theres about 9–12 'pages' of questions that ya use.. uses a fancy mythtv-ish front end.

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Dr_willis:

you are runnin this under X ?

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amrit:

yep, running under X

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Dr_willis:

i set my root user under knoppmyth when he 'startx' it runs mythtv-setup :)

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Dr_willis:

well over my head then.

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amrit:

doh.. thanks anyway

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crudpuppy:

amrit, anything dumped to the console when your run mythtv-setup and it does that?

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crudpuppy:

something that might indicate the problem

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crudpuppy:

run it from a xterm and see if you see anything menacing

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amrit:

sure, notthing that seems to be the culprit though. pastebin, sec

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amrit:

http://pastebin.ca/290578

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amrit:

looks like a skin error, a lircd error...

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amrit:

(dunno what that recordfileprefix error means)

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amrit:

found someone with a similar issue, but no solution: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . iew_threaded

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crudpuppy:

looks like your missing your themes

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crudpuppy:

and thats bombing it out

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crudpuppy:

Could not find theme: G.A.N.T.

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amrit:

er, is that all? i'll go grab the theme tarball then. i just figured it'd at least ship with a stock theme..

[04:11:17]

amrit:

that didn't help. it only installed a handful of themes (G.A.N.T not included).. and /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/ already has G.A.N.T.. wtf? it's starting to sound like it's confused about the prefix i chose. gonna rebuild the whole thing.

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crudpuppy:

hmmm, I need it to buffer/record faster so I can skip commercials on livetv

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rexer:

uptime

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rexer:

err sorry..

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rexer:

lsmod

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xris:

amrit: you sure you don't have 2 copies installed?

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naum42:

Is there a way to auto-rename the recorded files with the show title that I'm just missing?

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GreyFoxx:

nothing built in no

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GreyFoxx:

but there is a "mythrename.pl" script that comes with the source for doing that

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naum42:

OK, I'll look into that, thanks

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amrit:

crudpuppy: Dr_willis, xris: sweet! i think it was just confused because i re-ran configure with a different prefix (or something of the sort). make distclean, configure, make install resolved it

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Jake:

Evening.

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xris:

Jake: in some place

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xris:

places, even

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Jake:

Indeed, indeed.

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misterscott:

Hi everyone. Anyone willing to help me set up my dual-head config for MythTV?

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misterscott:

I've tried all sorts of RTFM to no avail. I have an LCD monitor and a 27" analog TV. I want to set up two separate X screens so I can use DISPLAY=":0.1" mythfrontend (or something like that) to pipe MythTV to the TV only.

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Axo:

misterscott: http://databytes.org/index.php?p=1_6

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misterscott:

I currently have the TV set as "RightOf" my LCD monitor in xorg.conf, and I can move the mouse off the LCD onto the TV, but the TV produces lots of horizontal static, and I can't see anything on the TV. I'm almost there...any ideas?

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misterscott:

Thanks Axo. I'll take a closer look at that page. I think I have those settings in place already, but I might be missing something. This is a Chaintech 7NIF2 mobo, with on-board nForce2, which I thought was able to handle a monitor through VGA and TV-out through S-video at the same time...hoping I was correct on that.

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Axo:

misterscott: Sorry I cant help you with the Chaintech mobo, I know nothing about them.

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misterscott:

Axo: Thanks anyway...I am pretty sure that xorg is set up correctly (and I don't see anything in your link that rings a bell), but for some reason I'm not having any luck with dual displays. I may try disconnecting the LCD to see if I can get the TV working alone.

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Jake:

Huh... I don't quite get it. Do I have to do some hardware setup to record and play back sound with my PVR-350?

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tcpsyn:

man, juski's theme blootube is great

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amrit:

cool.. got myth working just fine (w/ remote + lircd too)

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amrit:

thanks for the help

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AdamKili:

who here has MythTV setup to watch tv and record a program at the same time? What TV tuner card(s) do you use?

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kormoc:

AdamKili, you can use two pvr 150's or a single pvr 500

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jblack:

AdamKili: Doesn't everyone?

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jblack:

The trick for seeing shows that are currently being recoded is to view them via "watch recording".

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AdamKili:

ya hauppauge seems to be quite popular

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tcpsyn:

AdamKili, cheap, and supported.

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AdamKili:

how about Leadtek?

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kormoc:

AdamKili, just skip the pvr 250 (a 150 is cheaper/better), and the pvr 350 (a pvr 150 + nvidia card is better and cheaper again)

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kormoc:

AdamKili, stay away from cards that have brooktree or conexant. They are software encoding cards, so they use the cpu to encode and take a nice bit of power that can be used for other things, like chimerical flagging or similar.

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AdamKili:

what is brooktree/conexant?

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kormoc:

they are tv capture chipsets

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AdamKili:

how do i find out what one a card has? I'm using NewEgg.com, I don't think they have that technical of details

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kormoc:

well, for the most part, you have hauppauge as the only cable cards that are not brooktree or conexant

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AdamKili:

how about the Hauppauge 1033 WinTV-Go-Plus card?

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Dagmar:

Link it, please

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Dagmar:

Usually there's a Technical Specifications tab that tells you what a card does

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AdamKili:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116626

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AdamKili:

i think in the System requirements 90MHz is a mistake. probably 900MHz

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Dagmar:

Nope

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Dagmar:

That's probably correct

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Dagmar:

"90MHz minimum recommended for TV watching, 733MHz PIII for SoftPVR with MPEG, 1.8Gigahertz for SoftPVR with DivX"

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Dagmar:

Note the word "SoftPVR" featuring in there with approximately the same CPU requirements as would take to encode those codecs in realtime on the CPU

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Dagmar:

That is apparently just another framegrabber card

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AdamKili:

so I probably shouldn't get it?

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Dagmar:

NOpe

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Dagmar:

Here's another way to tell

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Dagmar:

Do a google search for the manufacturer name, model name, and "Linux". Ie. "Hauppauge WinTV-Go-Plus Linux"

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Dagmar:

The title of the first hit in this case is "Hauppauge Computer Works: Support for WinTV 878-based boards"

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Dagmar:

*bzzt* It's a Brooktree card.

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kormoc:

or click the "Manufacturer Product Page" :P

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Dagmar:

I was pretty sure before I asked you to link it that I rememebered what it was, but I wasn't sure about the "Plus" model

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kormoc:

"SoftPVR uses your PC?s processor to digitally record"

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kormoc:

that's a key of a software encoder :P

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Dagmar:

Hauppauge are about the only people who are reasonably up-front about telling that stuff

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AdamKili:

the pvr 150 is a bit pricy for me, in the PVR Hardware Database quite a few people have Leadteks. are they hardware encoder cards? i googled but didn't find much

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kormoc:

AdamKili, no, they are software I think. Now, software cards work well enough if you have a heafty cpu

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AdamKili:

2.70 GHz, 265 MB RAM

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kormoc:

a little light on the ram, but is fast enough

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AdamKili:

ya it sucks. We got the computer from a neighbor, it had Widows viruses on it and crashed randomly. We figured we were going to use linux aka no viruses, but it still crashed, so we tried taking out the addition 512 MB ram card and it fixed it. I hope our neighbor still has the reciept

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AdamKili:

the AverMedia M179 has hardware-encoding. the only place i can find it is eBay though, but for $25! but how trustworthy is this guy.....ebay's always questionable

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kormoc:

AdamKili, a m179 is a rebranded pvr 250. I actually use one, and it's quite nice for the price

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AdamKili:

i bet the seller's good enough. check it out if you want: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Avermedia-M179-D-TV-T . . . cmdZViewItem

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kormoc:

personally, I'd buy it, sure

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AdamKili:

[sorry if i'm asking to many questions] was it easy to set up? automatically detected like it says here (http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia_M179)? Do you know if there's a difference between the M179 and the M179-D

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kormoc:

it's as easy as any other pvr card is, and eaiser then my brooktree was

[07:21:22]

kormoc:

it is offically supported in ivtv now

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AdamKili:

ok sorry 1 more question. it has a remote contol right?

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kormoc:

no, it doesn't

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kormoc:

I use a microsoft MCE USB remote and ir blaster combo

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AdamKili:

great a dilemma. i hate dilemmas. get two software encoder cards? get a software encoder card that has a remote and the Avermedia M179? get two hardware encoders and buy a separate remote? hmmmm.......

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AdamKili:

getting a software encoder that has a remote and the Avermedia m179 would work wouldn't it?

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kormoc:

personally, I'd buy the m179 and the microsoft usb remote

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AdamKili:

or the Streamzap, supported by lircd: http://www.amazon.com/Streamzap-USBIR2-PC-Rem . . . =electronics

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Cardoe:

kormoc: MCE USB ftw!

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kormoc:

Aye :)

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Cardoe:

I have to kick my Myth box.

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Cardoe:

it's being annoying with HD shows

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Cardoe:

kormoc: you do pcHDTV + Hauppauge PVR?

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kormoc:

Cardoe, sorry, I only do the m179

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Bernardo:

good morning

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Bernardo:

GreyFoxx: yesterday I tried accessing mythtv upnp server with my DSM320RD. It listed all files perfectly, but didn't manage to play a single one, it always gave me a "unable to play file" on the client.

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Bernardo:

Dagmar: still stuck with mythplugins. I can install them with a "sudo make install", but since the generated install paths are relative and not absolute, I'm unable to get the debian script to work

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Dagmar:

Okay awesome

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Dagmar:

Well, it's not awesome that you're still having problems, but it's awesome you caught me online so I can pick up where we left off

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Dagmar:

Can you pastebin the Debian script so I can see it?

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Dagmar:

I'll probably need you to pastebin the patch they're using after that, but since I've had some time to sleep the back of my brain has pretty much unraveled this one

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Dagmar:

I'm hoping to spot a place to wedge in the trivial change that will get a slash in the place it's missing

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Dagmar:

If you can even see where it sets INSTALL_ROOT in the build script, stick a "/" at the end of what it's setting, like if it's doing INSTALL_ROOT=$SRCDIR/$PKGNAME change it to INSTALL_ROOT=$SRCDIR/$PKGNAME/ with the slash at the end

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Bernardo:

I didn't even expect to see you online, so I went and made breakfast... :)

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Dagmar:

I work nights

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Bernardo:

I did edit the debian script like you are suggesting

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Bernardo:

it's easy to find the place

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Bernardo:

the problem is that all the "../" mean the paths are relative, so "make install INSTALL_ROOT=$SRCDIR/$PKGNAME/" gets appended with the relative path and ends up putting stuff in $PREFIX/

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Dagmar:

There shouldn't be a problem with that

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** Bernardo doesn't work nights, but can't sleep after 7 am... his internal clock seems to be locked **

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Dagmar:

What's it coming up with after you added the trailing /?

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Bernardo:

there is – later the script collects all packageable stuff from inside debian/$PKGNAME

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Bernardo:

lots of permission denied errors as it tries to write to /usr/share

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Dagmar:

Hrmm...

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Bernardo:

as I see it, if the paths were absolute ("$prefix/share", etc) when make gets passed INSTALL_ROOT it would prepend it and everything would to to the right place

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Dagmar:

Adding a trailing slash to what's being set as INSTALL_ROOT *should* work

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Bernardo:

as they are relative to the BUILD_ROOT, when it gets prepended to INSTALL_ROOT everything ends up in the "wrong" place

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Dagmar:

Now, if I were telling you to put a slash in at the *start* of INSTALL_ROOT, that I woudl expect to break

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Dagmar:

It should break at the end

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Bernardo:

for example, in my case I'm building in /usr/src/nvidia/myth; the install path ends as ../../../share, right?

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Dagmar:

Trailing slashes are generally quite safe. You can have as many of them as you like. /usr/, /usr, /usr////, and /usr/./././ are all the same thing

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Dagmar:

Bernardo: yeah

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Bernardo:

if I put INSTALL_ROOT as debian/mythplugin/, the install path ends as debian/mythplugin/../../../share, right?

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Bernardo:

and then that works out as /usr/src/nvidia/myth/debian/mythplugin/../../../share, right?

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Dagmar:

I kinda get the feeling that something in the debian parts is really screwing up

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Bernardo:

that then translates to /usr/src/nvidia/share

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Dagmar:

Bernardo: If the path you cite is what's coming out the other end, something is really broken

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Bernardo:

that's the kind of stuff that comes out when I pass a INSTALL_ROOT to make

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Bernardo:

I've even tried doing it directly, without the debian script

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Dagmar:

When *you* pass it to make?

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Dagmar:

Dude, my build script has yet to fail and I am using that variable

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Bernardo:

just a plain svn co, configure, make, then "make install INSTALL_ROOT=path/"

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Dagmar:

OKay, THAT is where you're screwing up unless "path" is defined as something starting with a /

[08:52:52]

Dagmar:

make INSTALL_ROOT=/tmp/DLG/STAGE/mythplugins-svn12247–1/mytharchive -C mytharchive install

[08:52:58]

Dagmar:

That is more like what you're supposed to use

[08:53:06]

Bernardo:

let me try once more

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Dagmar:

INSTALL_ROOT should not be a relative path

[08:54:21]

Bernardo:

bingo

[08:54:29]

Dagmar:

It's *supposed* to be in the Makefiles being used like: install -m 0755 $INSTALL_ROOT/$PREFIX/$dirname

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Dagmar:

I think yer debian script is constructing it's INSTALL_ROOT based on $pwd/debian or something

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Dagmar:

er $CWD/debian/$pkgname or something similar

[08:55:23]

Bernardo:

it has, $CURDIR

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Bernardo:

my bad

[08:57:37]

Bernardo:

http://pastebin.ca/290729

[08:58:03]

Bernardo:

this is what I get when I call make from the command line, passing $PWD/debian

[08:58:26]

Bernardo:

I only tried for mythbrowser, but it shows the same problem I'm having

[08:58:48]

Dagmar:

Hmm... lemme think on this a moment

[08:59:45]

Dagmar:

*Something* is going out of it's way to break things

[09:00:01]

Bernardo:

and this works with mythtv

[09:00:11]

Bernardo:

so there's some subtle difference here

[09:02:54]

Dagmar:

Lemme look at my build logs

[09:03:21]

Bernardo:

ok, thanks

[09:04:18]

Dagmar:

Okay. i think I've got it

[09:04:19]

Dagmar:

cp -f "libmytharchive.so" "/tmp/DLG/STAGE/mythplugins-svn12247–1/mytharchive/usr/lib/mythtv/plu gins/libmytharchive.so"

[09:04:38]

Dagmar:

Either something has been dramatically changed in the Makefiles or the --prefix argument that's being passed to configure needs to be looked at

[09:04:54]

Dagmar:

Something was striking me as odd, and it's that those damn ..'s should *not* be there

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Bernardo:

they're not there when I build mythtv or myththemes, only mythplugins

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Dagmar:

Something very stupid is being done in the install pase of things

[09:05:42]

Dagmar:

Well, mythplugins has a ton of subdirectories

[09:05:53]

Dagmar:

...and each one is basically a separate build

[09:06:08]

Dagmar:

Can you pastebin the debian script that's being used to build mythplugins?

[09:06:16]

Dagmar:

I can probably fix it if I can see what the hell they're doing there

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Bernardo:

ok, but as I've said I did reproduce the problem without the debian script, on a clean dir just downloaded from svn

[09:06:53]

Dagmar:

The number of ..'s exactly matches what's neeeded to bring those paths all the way back out to /usr, which means what's inserting them *has* to know what INSTALL_ROOT is being set to

[09:07:14]

Dagmar:

Since I doubt the Makefile is doing that computation, I'm inclined to say someone did something in that Debian script that they thought was elegant and has proven to be stupid

[09:07:30]

Dagmar:

Lemme try reproducing it here then

[09:07:58]

Dagmar:

Yech. What other than mythbrowser does it? I don't have konq on this machine so I know it won't build

[09:08:30]

Bernardo:

http://pastebin.ca/290734

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Bernardo:

mytharchive does the same

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Bernardo:

and doing what the script is doing ("./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-all --disable-festival";"qmake -o Makefile PREFIX=/usr mythplugins.pro";"make") gives the same result (for me)

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Dagmar:

OKay... waiting for it to build now

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Bernardo:

I'm starting to think it's my setup that is borked

[09:11:55]

Dagmar:

I can at least tell you that I'm *not* calling qmake

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Bernardo:

mmm... I wonder

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Dagmar:

Oh joy

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Dagmar:

recordingselector.cpp: In member function `void RecordingSelector::OKPressed()

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Dagmar:

etc etc lameness

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Dagmar:

It's balking because I have 0.20 headers, one moment

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Dagmar:

All I really needed was for it to generate the Makefile anyway

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H00chster:

Would anyone by chance know why I get a DATABASE ERROR and that is it when I try to use Mythweb from another machine on my network connecting to the Myth machine? I, as far as I can tell, have the conf file setup properly, and think I have the database permissions setup but am by no means an sql expert.

[09:15:17]

Dagmar:

OH BIG SQUIRTING JOY

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Dagmar:

Bernardo: Someone did something stupid in the actual Makefile

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Dagmar:

Check this out

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Dagmar:

-$(INSTALL_FILE) "archivemenu.xml" "$(INSTALL_ROOT)../../../../share/mythtv/"

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Dagmar:

Farking we-tah-ded

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Bernardo:

ouch

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Bernardo:

that would explain it

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Dagmar:

Definitely submit a ticket on that bit of stupid

[09:16:19]

Dagmar:

It absolutely should NOT be using a relative path there

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Bernardo:

and where is that being generated? Or is it already in all makefiles?

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Dagmar:

I'm digging for that now

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Dagmar:

H00chster: I think you pretty much nailed it. You don't have the permissions right in the database

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H00chster:

Dagmar, will keep looking, any tips? I have tried the usual setting of it. when I type in the sql query it is returning 0 results so that is telling me it isn't changing anything.

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** Bernardo just had the weirdest hang inside bttv **

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Bernardo:

I'm afraid my old hauppauge wintv might be a little borked... thankfully it will be replaced when I get the dvb-c

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Bernardo:

http://pastebin.ca/290739

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Bernardo:

this doesn't help at all when I'm trying to compile... :)

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Dagmar:

H00chster: I suggest reading the documentation on MySQL's site

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Dagmar:

Bernardo: I am coming up with squat so far, but I'm still digging

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Dagmar:

I would still go ahead and file a bug report on it

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H00chster:

Dagmar, thanks will check into it.

[09:24:42]

Dagmar:

Whatever someone did differently in there is fatally frying things

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Bernardo:

Dagmar: thanks, will do that. My problem was how to explain it so that there would be no confusion where the problem might be

[09:25:35]

Bernardo:

something which I didn't do that well at the beginning... :)

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Dagmar:

I'd say just tell them the generated Makefiles are coming out with broken relative paths and past the segment from the Makefile's install stanza showing those damn ../../../..'s that shoudl *never* be able to follow $INSTALL_ROOT

[09:28:36]

Dagmar:

That's a hellishly bad assumption that *ignores* --prefix anyway

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Dagmar:

If your source was in /foo/mythplugins you'd wind up with half the package in /foo/bin

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H00chster:

dagmar heh thank you, found out that my sql server on the myth was only listening locally, updated the bind address and all is good. Thanks for making me look.

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Dagmar:

Cool

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Bernardo:

ok, thanks

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Bernardo:

my daughter just woke up, bbl

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null:

Hello there. Anyone have an idea on how to speed up the display of subtitles? The playback of a DVD stutters when I enable them...

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Bernardo:

Dagmar: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1312

[09:50:19]

Bernardo:

it's already in there, and closed as invalid... :(

[09:50:45]

Bernardo:

I do need to find how to get qmake to generate absolute paths

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Dagmar:

Jesus how long has mytharchive been in a state of grace?

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Dagmar:

-$(INSTALL_FILE) "archivemenu.xml" "$(INSTALL_ROOT)/share/mythtv/"

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Dagmar:

THat's from SVN from 0.20-fixes from last week

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Dagmar:

what the hell

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Dagmar:

Okay, I'll jump all *over* Dibblah the next time I see him

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Dagmar:

If it isn't a bug, then it shouldn't have BROKEN anything

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Dagmar:

It's also installing a bloody lot of .svn files it shouldn't. Not sure how that's going awry

[10:01:43]

Dagmar:

I think I've got it

[10:02:00]

Dagmar:

It seems to come down to what the CWD was when qmake -o Makefile mytharchive.pro was invoked

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Dagmar:

...and I *think* I know how to fix it

[10:02:44]

Bernardo:

that would be cool... do you want me to test anything?

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Bernardo:

I've just tried building the "plain" ubuntu/debian package for mythplugins-0.20, and it fails the same way, I wonder how they build it, probably hacked by hand

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Dagmar:

It won't need testing if I find what I'm looking for

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Dagmar:

One of the .pro files changed it's pathing

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Bernardo|away:

Dagmar: the bug is in qmake, and appears when building under /usr : http://lists.atrpms.net/pipermail/atrpms-deve . . . /000018.html

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Bernardo|away:

I'm now building under /opt, and it seems to be working...

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Bernardo|away:

at least I no longer get the ../../ in the include lines

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Dagmar:

I kinda disbelieve this claim of a bug in qmake of that sort

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Dagmar:

Seems like a lame excuse for devs being careless

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Dagmar:

...although that may well be the case

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Dagmar:

I guess I've not had it manifest in my build engine because it does everything in /tmp

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Dagmar:

Oh well, I guess it's just One More Reason To Hate Qt

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Bernardo|away:

I'll see in a few minutes, but it seems to be working

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Bernardo|away:

brb

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null:

Is mythtv ignoring the "repeat" settings in the lircrc file?

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fatmatt:

Heyas

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fatmatt:

anyone able to suggest a fix for slow gui response in 0.20? takes a second or 2 to move after I hit the button

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Bernardo|away:

Dagmar: it worked... I only had to do another small edit on the debian build script, as it was looking for a .htaccess that wasn't there

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Bernardo|away:

so it's a qmake bug... Maybe it should be added to the wiki "DON'T BUILD UNDER /usr" :)

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** Paladine is listening to one of the most classic tracks of all time **

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Paladine:

all 26:52 juicy goodness minutes of Led Zep – Dazed and Confused from The Song Remains the Same :)

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crudpuppy:

hmmm, thats wierd

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crudpuppy:

is the player for dvds suppose to be set to internal?

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crudpuppy:

or a command of some sort?

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crudpuppy:

oh well, doesnt matter

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crudpuppy:

gonna emerge xine I think anyway

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jd86:

I remember a long time ago when i installed ivtv I had to delete some modules that were built with kernel, (this was back with0.4) do i still have to?

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Dibblah:

Dagmar: There's pretty much no easy way to get round the relative path generation.

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Dibblah:

And... It is invalid.

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Dagmar:

Yeah, I just spent about an hour digging through Qt trying to find out where the retardedness is coming from

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Dagmar:

Oh well, it's not like "moc is teh satan" is news or anything

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Dibblah:

If I remember right, it's qmake, not moc. It affects everything.

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Dibblah:

It is technically possible to futz with the generated makefiles, but... It's just not worth it.

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Captainseabag:

hi all just wanted to say Merry Christmas!

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Captainseabag:

have a good one! lata

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leninIdebian:

hallo

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leninIdebian:

is here anyone running mythtv on a Xbox?

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matallo:

hello

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matallo:

i've got kind of problem with mythfilldatabase

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matallo:

it duplicates programs!

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Ribs:

leninIdebian: check out the wiki, there is a section there for the xbox

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jd86:

kernel panic!!

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Neeesat25:

hello

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Neeesat25:

I am trying to setup my hauppauge 250 TV-card but myth doesn't detect it. Module name is bttv

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GreyFoxx:

no

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GreyFoxx:

the 250's module is the ivtv module

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GreyFoxx:

bttv is for the cheap software tuners

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Neeesat25:

oh

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Neeesat25:

is it in the kernel?

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GreyFoxx:

nope

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GreyFoxx:

it will be eventually

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GreyFoxx:

but for now you gotta get it and install it

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GreyFoxx:

most distros have some sort of package for it

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Neeesat25:

I am using debian

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Neeesat25:

just apt-get install ivtv?

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Neeesat25:

What is the latest version?

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GreyFoxx:

the last several are kernel specific

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GreyFoxx:

ivtvdriver.org

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jd86:

That went so well I'm almost sitting here waiting for it to stop working (upgrade kernel, ivtv, lirc and prior to that mythtv)

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Bernardo:

Dibblah: the simple workaround is to build things out of /usr tree, should that be added to the wiki?

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Neeesat25:

Ok ivtv installed and loaded. The problem is that it still canot detected in mythtv-setup

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Neeesat25:

It needs a firmware in hotplug dir?

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Neeesat25:

v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw?

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Dagmar:

It needs two of them, and the docs tell you exactly which ones and where they go

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Neeesat25:

ok

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Dagmar:

@#$!

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Dagmar:

I made illustrations for everything but the S-video connector

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Dagmar:

Damnit

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Jasper:

hello guys

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Jasper:

is there anyone here who made a remote control out of a wifi device?

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Dagmar:

I'm wokring on it

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Dagmar:

The Nintendo DS browser is slow as hell tho'.

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Dagmar:

I'm still not convinced it will ultimately be all that useful

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Jasper:

Dagmar I have a browser on my n80

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Jasper:

but I was thinking of a seperate program

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Dagmar:

Congratulations that browser is even slower

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Dagmar:

heh

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Dagmar:

I've the intention of people being able to install the thing more or less the way they install mythweb

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Dagmar:

BTW programs can FINISH before the Nintendo Browser gets done drawing my program guide in mythweb. lol

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Jasper:

it aint that slow Dagmar

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Jasper:

:P

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Jasper:

is it that slow?

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Dagmar:

It takes it almost five minutes to render Slashdot

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Dagmar:

Granted, it does a pretty slick job of it, but it's not fast

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Jasper:

and you claim the n80 browser is slower ? :P:

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Jasper:

huh Dagmar I didn't know mythweb loads a different page

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Jasper:

when I load it in my phone instead of my box

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Jasper:

that

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Jasper:

that's weird

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Jasper:

:P

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Jasper:

how does it recognise it as a phone?

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darkfrog:

I've written an application in Java called MythAssistant (screenshot here: http://www.captiveimagination.com/download/MythAssistant.jpg) and was curious if other people would find it useful for me to make publically available for use? I use it on my Windows machine but it's in Java so it can be run from any OS.

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Neeesat25:

about the firmware of ivtv is explaining howto for hotplug but I am using udev

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Jasper:

darkfrog what does it do?

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darkfrog:

Jasper, it's an external management application to browse all of your recordings and download them (with a readable filename) to another machine and optionally delete from the myth box when it's done.

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darkfrog:

Jasper, the majority of its features can be seen in the screenshot

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jd86:

Hey, I just upgrade to latest svn yesterday, and now on windows its detecting mythtv as a upnp device mythtv av media server, what can I do with this?

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darkfrog:

Sort of like MythWeb except MUCH faster. :o

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Jasper:

ah I see

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jd86:

darkfrog, that looks nice

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darkfrog:

I use it primarily to move entire seasons of shows over to my windows machine for creating DVDs.

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Dagmar:

If you're using a relatively unmodified udev and the 2.6.17.x kernel or higher you just stick the firmwares into /lib/firmware

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Jasper:

is there any specific reason why I can't load mythweb on my phone browser?

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Jasper:

why do I get some kind of downgraded version of mythweb? :P

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Dagmar:

Jasper: Probably that the webpage is more complex than your phone can handle

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Dagmar:

Cell phones primarily try to grab WAP pages anyway

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darkfrog:

Jasper, hehe, if you've got a gig of memory on your phone then I don't see why not. ;)

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Jasper:

4 gigh darkfrog...but not internal

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Jasper:

:P

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Jasper:

anyways

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darkfrog:

Jasper, not flash memory, but useable memory for the browser...you'll get out of memory errors....I sometimes do on Firefox. :o

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Jasper:

how can I disable this wap version

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darkfrog:

....but I have over a terrabyte of recordings....so that may make a difference. :o

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Jasper:

of mythweb ?

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darkfrog:

Jasper, it's specific to your phone....many phones will parse HTML and convert to WAP

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Jasper:

I can download torrents on my phone :P

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Jasper:

not this one darkfrog

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Jasper:

it's just a regular webbrowser on it

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Jasper:

and it loads other pages completely norml

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darkfrog:

Jasper, as far as I know there is no WAP implementation in MythWeb

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Jasper:

that's what I thought

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Jasper:

but apparently there is

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Jasper:

:P

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Jasper:

since I'm getting some kind of text only page

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darkfrog:

or you're mistaken. ;)

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Jasper:

with a small logo

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Jasper:

could be

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Jasper:

bt I think not

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AdamKili:

is there any adapter that converts VGA (computer monitor) out to Component or S-Video? I'd rather not have to buy a whole new video card just for TV out

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Scopeuk_:

AdamKili tehre are yes

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Scopeuk_:

dont know if it will be cheaper than a new card though

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AdamKili:

what are they called? VGA to component video adapter?

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darkfrog:

So would anyone here find MythAssistant useful if I made it available? (just don't want to waste my time if nobody cares)

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Scopeuk_:

AdamKili you can build one

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Scopeuk_:

althoguh vga to scart is much simpler

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AdamKili:

scart?

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Jasper:

back

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Jasper:

I had a slight kernel panic it appears

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darkfrog:

I'll take that as a no. ;)

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darkfrog:

thanks guys.

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Jasper:

sorry got disconnected

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AdamKili:

think this would do the trick? http://www.amazon.com/VIDEO-CARD-TV-ADAPTER-C . . . =electronics

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Jasper:

I'm gona find out if mythweb has some implemented wap somewhere

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Dagmar:

WAP is just a simplified form of HTML, dude.

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Dagmar:

s/form/subset/;

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Dagmar:

...and I'm pretty sure that xris has given that the consideration it deserves at the momemnt, which is next to none.

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Dagmar:

Doing so would make mytweb look like it was made with sharp sticks and mud if it were WAP-friendly

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tcpsyn:

I don't really understand how myth would work with a set top box... I get that the ir blaster changes the channels, but how does it schedule recordings?

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caitlin:

because it knows the listings and when programs start

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caitlin:

flicks the box to the right channel and records whatever the box sends to the mythtv machine

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caitlin:

stops recording when the show ends

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caitlin:

i guess

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tcpsyn:

I suppose that makes sense.

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tcpsyn:

heh

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tcpsyn:

<- thick head.

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caitlin:

i'm guessing tbh, i've never done it

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tcpsyn:

how would my mythguide know the digital cable channels?

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tcpsyn:

and... It probably wouldn't be possible to record two digital stations at once

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jams:

tcpsyn- to record two digital stations at once, you would need two STB boxes from the cable company

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tcpsyn:

damn.

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jams:

and two recorders in the mythbox

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tcpsyn:

actually, it looks like the digital stations suck anyway.

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tcpsyn:

I'd just want the music

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jams:

heh I rarely use them

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galois-:

hi, where would I find out if the nebula TV card was supported?

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kormoc:

google?

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galois-:

doesn't seem conclusive at the moment, I was hoping someone here might have anecdotal evidence

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tcpsyn:

there you go, trying to confuse me with the big words.

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galois-:

tcpsyn: can't get a straight answer from google – hoped the channel would be able to help

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galois-:

tcpsyn: :)

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galois-:

linux tv wiki also doesn't help

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caitlin:

what's the cards chipset?

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caitlin:

that's usually the big clue

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Paladine:

mythtv will work with e17 right? or would I have to recompile it?

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Jasper:

hej people

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Jasper:

ow can I find out the name of my mythfrontend:

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Jasper:

? :P

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xris:

Jasper: huh? `hostname` ?

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Jasper:

yeah that's what I am wondering about too :P

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Jasper:

I found this plugin

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Jasper:

to remotely control myth via wifi

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Jasper:

trying to get it too work

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Jasper:

okkkkkk

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Jasper:

looks like this plugin just crashed mythtv

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Jasper:

:P

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galois-:

caitlin: BT8xxx

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kormoc:

galois-, it would be supported by the bttv driver. it's a software encoder so it will require a decently heafty cpu, but would likely work

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galois-:

kormoc: thanks – works fine in windows atm

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kormoc:

there's a difference between recording and just watching

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caitlin:

is there?

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galois-:

currentky reading http://www.dtvforum.info/lofiversion/index.php/t13523.html which details the process for some distros – nothing on debian/ubuntu unfortunately

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caitlin:

i thought watching had to record, for the ringbuffer

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caitlin:

is that held in ram?

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kormoc:

caitlin, for myth, yes, for the windows software, tehre is a difference

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caitlin:

ah

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galois-:

caitlin: does for windows software

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caitlin:

sozzle

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kormoc:

caitlin, the windows software to watch just streams the video to the videocard, so it never hits the harddrive and doesn't get encoded

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galois-:

kormoc: does here

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kormoc:

caitlin, it's akin to using xawtv or tvtime on linux

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galois-:

kormoc: goes horribly wrong if c: runs out of space ...

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kormoc:

galois-, okay, so it is recording, then you should be fine

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Jasper:

mythfrontend segmentation fault

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Jasper:

:P

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Jasper:

lovely

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kormoc:

I just know people come in here and are like, I can watch it fine on my 700 mhz p3, why can't I use myth, and the answer is, they wern't encoding it on the fly before

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galois-:

kormoc: :)

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caitlin:

i'm sticking a printer on my mythtv box, since it's on all the time, it may as well do print jobs

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caitlin:

we had a brief idea to use it as stdout and watch pr0n on it

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caitlin:

it's an ink jet :P

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kormoc:

talk about slow :P

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caitlin:

probably a frame a minute

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kormoc:

you'd likely notice things you never have before

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kormoc:

hey look, she has a fly on her nose!

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caitlin:

tbh i dont really have a lot of pr0n :/

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caitlin:

i'm downloading a girls guide to 21st century sex

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caitlin:

it looks interesting, i missed it on telly

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caitlin:

are there any plans for myth to do preemptive taping?

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kormoc:

you have the internet, there's a collection of porn that would make most aliens blush out there for ya

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kormoc:

preemptive?

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caitlin:

digiguide used to do this thing where you told it what things you liked watching

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kormoc:

ahh

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caitlin:

and it'd flag other stuff that might be of interest to you

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caitlin:

i guess that was done manually by staff though, the program linkups

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kormoc:

yeah, people have tried to do a plugin like that, but alas, it's never taken off nor worked to well

[19:11:51]

caitlin:

it was frankly pretty awesome, i found some really good new shows that way

[19:12:09]

caitlin:

i tend to *really* like things on channel 4 at 3am... so id never see them if i was just browsing round the telly

[19:12:18]

caitlin:

but if it taped them *for* me.....

[19:12:33]

kormoc:

you can actually set myth to tape a channel at a certain time

[19:15:35]

caitlin:

yeh, i know

[19:15:47]

caitlin:

i was jhust giving an example of the awkwardness of timing

[19:15:52]

kormoc:

yeah

[19:15:58]

caitlin:

not that "cool things i like are broadcast at exactly 3am"

[19:16:16]

kormoc:

fair nuff

[19:16:42]

CyberKnet:

sup kormoc

[19:16:49]

kormoc:

Mornin' CyberKnet

[19:16:51]

kormoc:

how goes it?

[19:17:33]

CyberKnet:

very nice church service this morning... it goes well.

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** caitlin hugs her mythtv box and then looks at it... why are you finished?! there's nothing left to set up :( **

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caitlin:

stable systems are boring

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kormoc:

heh

[19:26:08]

kormoc:

you can always just open up root logins on sshd without a password. it won't stay boring for long!

[19:26:56]

caitlin:

it'll only be exciting very briefly though

[19:27:47]

caitlin:

i guess i could sort out my dvd burny thingy

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xris:

caitlin: time to upgrade to svn. :)

[19:29:35]

xris:

CyberKnet: my poor dad has 4 services today.. standard 2 in the AM, and then standard two christmas eve services tonight. sucks to be a pastor sometimes. heh.

[19:30:22]

CyberKnet:

xris: wow. that's a lot of church :)

[19:30:57]

CyberKnet:

But if he's doing what he loves, I'm sure he'll not mind :)

[19:31:12]

caitlin:

hrm, my sister is a vicar, her husband is a vicar, and my dad is an organist

[19:31:13]

CyberKnet:

Still... I love programming but if they asked me to pull a 16 hour day I might have other ideas...

[19:31:18]

caitlin:

between them they're xmassed OUT

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matallo:

hello

[19:31:47]

matallo:

whre are the transcode arguments in the mythdvd plugin?

[19:31:49]

briand:

one could argue that you're not a true programmer until you *have* pulled a 16-hour (or longer) day...

[19:32:02]

tcpsyn:

I do that all the time, and I'm not a programmer.

[19:32:22]

SavageOne:

merry christmas everybody!

[19:32:24]

tcpsyn:

I pull 16 hour days trying to get other programmers code to work :)

[19:32:31]

briand:

:)

[19:32:37]

matallo:

i've googled and read the mailing lists even looked in mythtv itself

[19:32:41]

briand:

then you're not working on my code, then. :grin:

[19:33:04]

briand:

xris: i like what you're doing with the re-vamp... how much more is in the works?

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tcpsyn:

is there a way to sort the recorded files by date?

[19:36:29]

tcpsyn:

They're all in there randomly

[19:36:32]

tcpsyn:

maybe by size?

[19:37:32]

kormoc:

in mythweb?

[19:37:36]

Cardoe:

ls --help

[19:37:39]

kormoc:

just clikc on the file size header

[19:37:39]

Cardoe:

man ls

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adante_:

is there some sort of problem with starting mythtv when the hdd is full?

[19:38:25]

kormoc:

yes

[19:38:36]

kormoc:

as in, it requires some space to start

[19:38:46]

adante_:

ok

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CyberKnet:

clicking a header to sort? that's SO microsoft windows. be original! make us click the footer!

[19:39:07]

adante_:

would that also cause an existing version of mythbackend to stop operating?

[19:39:12]

kormoc:

adante, yes

[19:39:23]

kormoc:

well, it can

[19:39:51]

adante_:

ok and finally, is myth failing to delete recordings in order to make space still a problem?

[19:39:59]

kormoc:

usually not

[19:40:14]

CyberKnet:

if the backend isn't running, I imagine it would have a hard time deleting things... :P

[19:40:19]

CyberKnet:

*grin*

[19:40:38]

** CyberKnet applies his ornery nature to something more productive **

[19:40:39]

xris:

briand: not sure. I'm off all next week, though, so I'm sure there will be more.

[19:40:48]

CyberKnet:

aha! A Cat!

[19:40:52]

CyberKnet:

heh

[19:40:54]

adante_:

CyberKnet: yeah, well it was running, but presumably it wasn't running well

[19:41:29]

CyberKnet:

adante: meh. I was just giving you grief for no good reason :)

[19:41:43]

briand:

CyberKnet: in Windows (at least in XP) there's an error you can get, on occasion, when the drive is full — "Cannot delete file: insufficient space. Try again after deleting one or more files."

[19:42:08]

xris:

if anyone else is curious about the changes in mythweb: http://forevermore.net/files/misc/screenshot.png

[19:42:21]

xris:

kormoc: look better than the last one? heh.

[19:42:35]

** kormoc nodnods. **

[19:42:37]

kormoc:

looks nice :)

[19:43:04]

CyberKnet:

puff the magic pastry

[19:43:04]

CyberKnet:

heh

[19:43:06]

CyberKnet:

:)

[19:43:15]

xris:

now if only the backend would size this things properly so the browser doesn't have to squish them

[19:43:25]

briand:

hmm. I didn't notice the graphic indicators before.. I must've done my SVN update too soon.

[19:43:58]

CyberKnet:

xris: you need the preview images smaller or something/

[19:44:00]

CyberKnet:

?

[19:44:27]

kormoc:

CyberKnet, yeah, they're like 33% shrunk in the new layout

[19:44:47]

xris:

CyberKnet: yeah. and larger (for the recording details page).. currently, the pixmaps are always 160x120, no way to specify

[19:45:10]

kormoc:

xris, you could resize them php size

[19:45:12]

kormoc:

*side

[19:45:26]

kormoc:

but I doubt it would look much better

[19:45:51]

xris:

no guarantee that people have the right php libs (or imagemagick) installed

[19:45:52]

CyberKnet:

kormoc: I think you might be surprised... browser resize algorithms are rarely optimized for image quality

[19:45:59]

xris:

doesn't help me to make them bigger, either.

[19:46:02]

CyberKnet:

xris: you couldn't use GD?

[19:46:09]

CyberKnet:

and yes, it wouldn't help make them bigger.

[19:46:10]

xris:

I want 320x240, esp. if I can get flashvideo playback

[19:46:38]

** kormoc peers at his FLV module that is rather sparse... **

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CyberKnet:

nothing wrong with sparse files ;)

[19:47:10]

linagee:

why do they show so many reruns during christmas? :(

[19:47:11]

kormoc:

xris, you're new streaming stuff, can it do FLV?

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kormoc:

linagee, to encourage you to spend time with your family and loved ones

[19:47:26]

xris:

no, I'm not streaming things newly.

[19:47:38]

xris:

but no, the new streaming module just sends the file

[19:47:42]

linagee:

kormoc: FLV? so have your own mythtv box stream video like youtube? lol

[19:47:43]

kormoc:

ahh, kk

[19:47:57]

xris:

only diff is that it will do an asx playlist so you don't have to download the whole file first.

[19:48:12]

kormoc:

linagee, you can get FLV players for free, so I'm playing with adding a you-tube like player into mythweb

[19:48:16]

xris:

proper streaming still needs interaction with mythtranscode (commercial cutting, nuv -> whatever, etc)

[19:48:30]

kormoc:

and ffmpeg

[19:48:33]

linagee:

kormoc: hrm.... for "home use only", right? LOL

[19:48:39]

kormoc:

linagee, of course :P

[19:48:52]

linagee:

kormoc: i detect a big bang happening at the cable companies soon

[19:48:59]

linagee:

kormoc: they will wake up and smell the java

[19:48:59]

kormoc:

ooh?

[19:49:01]

kormoc:

meh

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linagee:

kormoc: nobody watches commercials any more. lol

[19:49:16]

kormoc:

likely not, we're a rather small subset of people

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linagee:

kormoc: hrm.

[19:49:28]

xris:

kormoc: we need to convince geoff to move his mpeg2cut stuff around so that the backend can stream a file and honor the cutlist, rather than just sending the whole file.

[19:49:29]

caitlin:

i get confused when people talk about commercials

[19:49:39]

linagee:

caitlin: ?

[19:49:50]

linagee:

caitlin: oh, you mean they make references to them? lol

[19:49:51]

adante:

ok, i have a transcode system setup but myth has been reporting failed transcodes lately – is it possible myth has 'lost track' of these files hence why it is failing to delete them?

[19:49:58]

kormoc:

xris, yeah... that would be awesome

[19:49:58]

linagee:

caitlin: yes. here too. commercial free going on three years

[19:50:04]

** linagee shows his commercial free 3 year chip **

[19:50:08]

linagee:

:)

[19:50:10]

xris:

adante: what source? dvb/etc?

[19:50:36]

adante:

xris: dvb yep

[19:50:43]

briand:

caitlin / linagee: I get the same thing — the guys at work will be talking about some new commercial, and I just say "oh, I rarely see commercials."

[19:50:52]

xris:

adante: there are bugs... some streams just don't cut properly.

[19:50:58]

linagee:

briand: "i don't watch tv. just the shows" heh

[19:50:59]

xris:

there are some fixes in svn, and a couple of open tickets.

[19:51:11]

xris:

kormoc: but once he does that, mythtranscode/mythexport *should* be able to stream any file format that ffmpeg can

[19:51:27]

briand:

...then they start their mime bit: "I'm running Linux! la la la" I figure it's some sort of mind-meld microsoft jealousy thing...

[19:51:44]

linagee:

briand: mime?

[19:51:46]

linagee:

briand: meme?

[19:51:57]

briand:

linagee: pantomime, mimickry, et al

[19:52:02]

linagee:

oic

[19:52:04]

adante:

xris: well getting transcode working is one issue, but is this what is causing myth to stop deleting my files

[19:52:27]

linagee:

briand: you say mime and my brain thinks of content types. lol

[19:52:51]

xris:

adante: oh, I missed the delete part.

[19:52:54]

xris:

that's f'd up

[19:52:55]

briand:

of course, after they all crest the vista of redmond, wa. then i'll be one of the few talking about digital video.... ;)

[19:53:29]

linagee:

i wonder who has the most hours of mythtv records in the room? whip it out

[19:53:49]

adante:

xris: from what i can tell it appears to.. myth has deleted all the nuv files in my system but the mpgs are still there

[19:54:00]

briand:

of course, they may only change their tune to "my recordings don't disappear on their own — i run linux! la la la"

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Ediehow:

help friends

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Ediehow:

i haven't taped 24 since i had cable

[19:54:16]

linagee:

530GB. 2,900 hours of mythtv. :-D

[19:54:29]

Ediehow:

i have dishnetwork now, and i want to update my recording schedule, but the channel is missing for the recording

[19:54:40]

Ediehow:

but i can't find it through searching because it's more than 2 weeks away

[19:54:41]

xris:

adante: you sure it didn't just rename them?

[19:54:47]

Ediehow:

how do i, for a recording schedule, change it's channel?

[19:54:49]

** linagee has just about every single show i've watched in the past 3 years recorded. ;) **

[19:55:20]

adante:

xris: rename to mpg? it's never done that before

[19:55:28]

adante:

and they're quite massive – pre-transcode size

[19:55:38]

briand:

linagee: I'm sure I'm not even close to being a contender — Total Recorded: 2 months 20 days 5 hrs 46 mins

[19:55:49]

linagee:

briand: how much space is it taking up?

[19:55:50]

xris:

adante: mpeg files stay named as mpg.. if your nuv files were actually mpg and you did a lossless transcode, it would fix the suffix for you

[19:56:11]

briand:

linagee: oh, they're not all on disk, still.. that's just from the stats screen in mythweb.

[19:56:28]

linagee:

briand: that's 1,925 hours, right?

[19:56:29]

briand:

I've got my 1 TB LVM partition about half filled, I think.

[19:56:37]

linagee:

briand: not all on disk? :-/

[19:57:06]

linagee:

briand: mine are all on disk. i really just use mythtv for the scheduling and recording and mythweb. i rarely use the frontend interface

[19:57:07]

briand:

no — i don't save everything i record. watch it, delete it, and move on

[19:57:27]

adante:

xris: i don't quite follow.. but i don't think they've been renamed from .nuv back to .mpg

[19:57:35]

kormoc:

linagee, mythweb has a stats module, which shows historic stuff

[19:57:44]

linagee:

kormoc: under which tab'

[19:57:54]

kormoc:

linagee, for example, I have in the past 18 months, recorded 6 months worth of stuff

[19:57:58]

briand:

linagee: funnily enough, the "Statistics" tab. ;)

[19:58:17]

kormoc:

linagee, on the main page, click statistics :P

[19:58:19]

briand:

you should upgrade to SVN. :)

[19:58:22]

linagee:

hrm.. i have no such tab

[19:58:41]

xris:

adante: sounds like a weird bug. I'd recommend that you enable the "keep" setting for transcodes so it keeps your originals

[19:58:42]

** linagee looks at version **

[19:58:48]

linagee:

i'm still running 0.18! heheh. :-)

[19:58:53]

briand:

yikes!

[19:58:56]

kormoc:

linagee, ooh, that'd be why

[19:59:19]

briand:

i started with 0.18.1, nearly two years ago

[19:59:22]

linagee:

briand: it's been working this whole time without me noticing. ;)

[19:59:30]

briand:

:)

[19:59:41]

linagee:

briand: i have transcode set up to automagically downconvert the file and put it in my shared folder on my local network

[20:00:02]

briand:

cool... and what do you view the recordings on/with?

[20:00:04]

linagee:

it also names the file with the show name

[20:00:12]

linagee:

briand: mplayer in windows. ;)

[20:00:18]

linagee:

it works awesome. way better than microsoft's.

[20:00:24]

briand:

no doubt.

[20:00:24]

linagee:

briand: nicewarrior

[20:00:37]

briand:

looks nice on a 35" flat screen, too. :)

[20:00:41]

linagee:

briand: it has a silly pic of a kid in a cape when it starts

[20:03:09]

xris:

linagee: you need to update mythtv so you can use mythrename.pl

[20:03:22]

SavageOne:

hey guys

[20:03:26]

SavageOne:

who's got the dopest themes?

[20:03:45]

xris:

juski

[20:03:45]

SavageOne:

and how easy is it to make one? what directory are they in, is it like the old winamp deal where I could just use one as a template and make mods

[20:03:51]

kormoc:

g.a.n.t for the win!

[20:04:03]

SavageOne:

I'm making one for my mom I want to put my neices pics on it

[20:04:08]

SavageOne:

kormoc: I do love a good gant

[20:04:13]

briand:

hmm. it looks like my recording stats are going to be artificially inflated, thanks to zap2it, tomorrow.

[20:04:37]

Ediehow:

how do i, for a recording schedule, change it's channel?

[20:04:51]

xris:

SavageOne: take a look at the myththemes tarball

[20:04:52]

briand:

they're playing MythBusters all day long on Discovery, and they've tagged all the episodes with a "generic" subtitle/description... so my box is going to record all of 'em.

[20:04:58]

xris:

plenty in there to use as examples

[20:05:16]

SavageOne:

briand: u like that show? It seems kinda hoakie to me sometimes

[20:05:22]

SavageOne:

I like the concept but I dunno about the science

[20:05:27]

xris:

briand: yeah, same with dirty jobs today... had to manually disable all of them

[20:05:30]

SavageOne:

I'm a HUGE fan of penn and tellers Bullshit

[20:05:32]

SavageOne:

that shows is fabulous

[20:05:37]

kormoc:

briand, yeah... I've been meaning to tackle adding in a flag to only record episodes with episode data...

[20:05:45]

kormoc:

but it's a small pain :P

[20:06:06]

kormoc:

SavageOne, who cares about the science, there's a cute redhead!

[20:06:10]

briand:

the science is not too bad — sometimes they get it wrong, but the viewers write in and they'll re-research things...

[20:06:19]

briand:

kormoc: yeah, she's a hottie. :)

[20:06:21]

adante:

xris: alas, i'm only transcoding to save space, so that would defeat the purpose :]

[20:06:34]

SavageOne:

hey

[20:06:43]

SavageOne:

i got beef with the transcoding daemon interface

[20:06:53]

SavageOne:

if i choose ISO it should just rip the entire dvd to iso w/ the menus

[20:06:59]

SavageOne:

not easy track or whatever to a seperate iso

[20:07:02]

SavageOne:

sort of defeats the purpose

[20:07:08]

adante:

xris: transcodes were working fine, until i updated my svn and rebuilt, now it keeps complaining of missing profiles or something

[20:07:28]

xris:

adante: you just have to manually delete the *.old files.. but at least you won't lose things if it deletes

[20:07:43]

xris:

adante: sounds like you should submit a bug.

[20:07:53]

linagee:

xris: i think if i update mythtv, it will just corrupt everything. lol

[20:08:04]

briand:

:sigh:

[20:08:17]

linagee:

xris: i think i'd feel safer if i had backups first

[20:08:26]

adante:

xris: ok.. well if i can get some info together i'll do that

[20:08:34]

briand:

that's the price of living on the edge! the trepidation is also *free*! no charges whatsoever, and there's excitement and new features, etc, etc.

[20:08:49]

briand:

;)

[20:10:12]

xris:

linagee: just backup the db and you should be fine.

[20:11:26]

adante:

say whats the difference between the databases recorded and recordedprogram?

[20:11:46]

adante:

or better yet, which one should i empty to empty my recordings

[20:12:06]

xris:

you mean tables?

[20:12:23]

xris:

there are a lot of tables to clear out to delete programs. easier to do it directly from the frontend or mythweb.

[20:13:12]

caitlin:

would anyone mind answering a few dumb pms about transcoding? i can't find a decent guide, and mine dont seem to work too well/at all

[20:13:15]

xris:

but basically, recordedprogram stores an identical copy of the program table info (along with a couple of other tables for people, credits, etc) for recorded shows.

[20:13:22]

xris:

caitlin: just ask here

[20:13:40]

adante:

ok then.. this'll take a while heh

[20:13:40]

caitlin:

bah... but scroll death eats my thoughts

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xris:

caitlin: what are you trying to transcode?

[20:15:17]

caitlin:

tv

[20:15:24]

xris:

from what to what?

[20:15:27]

xris:

and for what purpose?

[20:16:09]

caitlin:

there's a setting in mythfrontend, in the dvb encoders bit "enable auto transcoding after recording" that seems to be on a "per profile" basis... does this mean that if unchecked, it ignores the "auto trancode flag" set in mythweb?

[20:16:26]

caitlin:

i want to make my normal dull episodes of series shows smaller

[20:17:00]

adante:

holy dooley my box is falling apart on me

[20:17:33]

briand:

Panic! Bad Magic File!

[20:18:11]

briand:

(an old SCO message...)

[20:19:18]

caitlin:

quake used to crash out with some message about "bad magic"

[20:21:35]

xris:

caitlin: ahh, haven't used that one. I use lossless transcode, which is pointless until there is a cut list.

[20:22:01]

caitlin:

ok

[20:22:05]

xris:

but I believe that checkbox is possibly the same one as in mythweb.

[20:23:47]

caitlin:

nah, it's a single tickbox on the whole profile

[20:24:02]

caitlin:

unless.. but that would be a bit nuts

[20:24:09]

caitlin:

hrm

[20:26:17]

Ediehow:

how do i, for a recording schedule, change it's channel?

[20:28:05]

briand:

Ediehow: set it to "Record at any time, on any channel" ?? ...or, create a new rule for the new channel.

[20:28:44]

Ediehow:

i can't:(

[20:28:47]

Ediehow:

it's 3 weeks away

[20:28:56]

Ediehow:

i just want to change the actual channel of the existing recording profile

[20:31:17]

caitlin:

bleh, are there any keyboard shortcuts for like "next cut point" or anything?

[20:31:26]

caitlin:

for the adjusting of

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caitlin:

or are the automatic ones trustable?

[20:33:49]

briand:

Ediehow: UPDATE recorded SET chanid=<new_chanid> WHERE recordid=<recordid_of_rule_in_question>;

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briand:

Ediehow: of course, before doing any monkeying around at the SQL prompt, you would be well-advised to make a backup of your database, using mysqldump. :)

[20:35:11]

briand:

y'know, just in case you forget to type a 'where clause' or something.

[20:35:39]

Ediehow:

what table is this in?

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briand:

the table is specified in the UPDATE command. it's "recorded"

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Ediehow:

ok

[20:36:17]

Ediehow:

i am doing it through webmin

[20:37:06]

Ediehow:

no, that's what things are RECORDED

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Ediehow:

i am talking about recording schedules

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briand:

sorry. I meant to type "record" not "recorded"

[20:39:05]

briand:

See what I mean about doing a backup first, in case of a mistake? ;)

[20:39:28]

xris:

caitlin: hit E while watching a show to invoke the cutlist editor.

[20:39:40]

xris:

then Z to import the commercial flag list.

[20:40:00]

xris:

up/down arrow adjust the movement range, pgup/down to move between cut points.

[20:40:11]

xris:

then while watching, press X and it'll transcode and remove commercials

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Ediehow:

:)

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briand:

it worked, i take it?

[20:50:24]

Ediehow:

no

[20:50:31]

Ediehow:

those are not the correct tables

[20:51:48]

Ediehow:

it's for

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Ediehow:

Recording Schedules (Manual, Custom)

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briand:

I'm afraid you're mistaken. the 'record' table houses the record rules.

[20:52:35]

briand:

SELECT DISTINCT(title) FROM record;

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briand:

you'll see you have one entry for each program (or rule).

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Ediehow:

k

[20:55:26]

Ediehow:

it's not listed there

[20:55:31]

Ediehow:

oh wait

[20:55:32]

Ediehow:

i see

[20:59:31]

Ediehow:

do i have to restart mysqld after changing it?

[20:59:37]

briand:

no

[21:00:03]

Ediehow:

hmm

[21:00:09]

briand:

you may need to prompt mythbackend to reschedule, tho

[21:01:03]

tcpsyn:

do you guys notice that some recordings are in black in white with no audio?

[21:01:48]

tcpsyn:

I think its because I have conflicting shows scheduled with only one tuner...

[21:02:00]

tcpsyn:

But I'm not sure if thats true. Can anyone confirm it?

[21:02:22]

Ediehow:

if you have conflicting shows

[21:02:22]

Ediehow:

only one will record, as far as i know

[21:02:49]

tcpsyn:

any other idea why that might be happening?

[21:03:45]

briand:

tuner type not specified correctly? bad/low signal quality on your antenna/cable going into the card?

[21:04:31]

tcpsyn:

its seems to only happen to about one in 30 recordings

[21:04:44]

briand:

does it always happen on the same channel(s)?

[21:05:01]

tcpsyn:

No.

[21:05:07]

tcpsyn:

It happened once while I was watching live tv

[21:05:16]

tcpsyn:

all of a sudden it went black and white and the audio static

[21:05:17]

briand:

without changing channels?

[21:05:26]

tcpsyn:

yeah. mid stream

[21:05:53]

briand:

if it were happening here, I'd suspect signal quality, then.

[21:06:14]

tcpsyn:

it is split quite a few times throughout the house

[21:06:41]

briand:

next time you see it in live tv, tune that channel on a television connected directly, and see if it's happening there, too.

[21:07:00]

tcpsyn:

I'll try that, thanks.

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briand:

that may help you determine whether the signal is degraded within or outside the house

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rexer:

im back..

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rexer:

well.. i was able to run mythtv-setup

[21:11:03]

caitlin:

xris, cheers! i just halved the size of something or other

[21:12:11]

jams:

GreyFoxx- here?

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rexer:

mysql -u root < mc.sql

[21:15:20]

rexer:

ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)

[21:15:32]

rexer:

any takers?

[21:15:40]

kormoc:

try mysql -u root -p < mc.sql

[21:15:43]

kormoc:

and type in your password

[21:16:31]

caitlin:

and type your password in here too

[21:16:33]

caitlin:

just so we can check

[21:16:39]

rexer:

sure...

[21:16:45]

caitlin:

</ press alt f4 etc etc>

[21:16:55]

caitlin:

:P

[21:16:55]

rexer:

Enter password:

[21:16:58]

rexer:

ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

[21:17:10]

caitlin:

try the right password :P

[21:17:15]

rexer:

wait.. i think i used the wrong one..

[21:17:15]

caitlin:

told you we should check it

[21:17:26]

rexer:

ahh..it worked..

[21:18:08]

BULLE:

so, rule number 1, always use the correct password

[21:18:26]

rexer:

letmet rerun mythtv-setup

[21:22:19]

rexer:

QMYSQL3: Unable to connect

[21:22:42]

rexer:

i rad mythtv-setup 2>&1 > myerror2

[21:22:59]

rexer:

Access denied for user 'rex'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

[21:23:08]

rexer:

2006-12–24 07:31:20.928 DB Error (KickDatabase):

[21:24:13]

kormoc:

use user mythtv password mythtv

[21:24:21]

kormoc:

not rex

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caitlin:

is that right? do oyu not need the password from that crazy text file

[21:24:34]

caitlin:

i'm using that one

[21:25:43]

rexer:

hmm..

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kormoc:

caitlin, mc.sql by default uses mythtv/mythtv

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caitlin:

how special.. i never get bored of the randomness of mythtv... maybe it's something my disto does

[21:28:06]

rexer:

is that changable thru the mythtv-setup?

[21:29:56]

rexer:

in my room *heated* have to walkover to the *cold living room to run the mythsetup.

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kormoc:

or run it over ssh?

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[21:39:38]

rexer:

as user or root?

[21:39:45]

kormoc:

user

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kormoc:

you need to setup your ssh to do x forwarding

[21:40:26]

rexer:

mythtv-setup: cannot connect to X server

[21:41:52]

kormoc:

right

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kormoc:

you need to set it up to allow it

[21:42:21]

rexer:

mythtv-setup 2>&1 > myerror4

[21:42:38]

rexer:

QSqlQuery::exec: database not open

[21:42:50]

rexer:

mythtv-setup: stack smashing attack in function virtual void QWidget::create(WId, bool, bool)()

[21:42:51]

rexer:

Aborted

[21:43:30]

rexer:

any takers?

[21:43:59]

rexer:

i installed cygwin xserver in my box.. here... sshed x forward to the mythbox..

[21:45:21]

rexer:

i can run firefox remotely and display it on my winbox.

[21:45:51]

BULLE:

dunno, i would blame some windows firewall, or NX or similar stuff

[21:45:56]

BULLE:

but i dont run windows, so i dont know

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rexer:

2006-12–24 07:54:03.855 Using runtime prefix = /usr

[21:46:43]

rexer:

2006-12–24 07:54:03.862 DPMS is not supported.

[21:46:43]

rexer:

2006-12–24 07:54:03.926 New DB connection, total: 1

[21:46:43]

rexer:

2006-12–24 07:54:03.946 Unable to connect to database!

[21:46:43]

rexer:

2006-12–24 07:54:03.946 Driver error was [1/1044]:

[21:46:44]

rexer:

QMYSQL3: Unable to connect

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rexer:

Database error was:

[21:46:48]

rexer:

Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' to database 'mythdb'

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rexer:

2006-12–24 07:54:04.009 DB Error (KickDatabase):

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BULLE:

now you are back at a more graspable error

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rexer:

whats that supposed to mean?

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BULLE:

is the db realy named mythtdb ? isnt it mythconverg or something ?

[21:49:24]

kormoc:

it's not mythdb

[21:49:28]

kormoc:

its mythconverg

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BULLE:

indeed0r

[21:50:54]

lightspeedbiker:

QUESTION, what directory does MythVideo use? /usr/share/mythtv

[21:51:17]

kormoc:

lightspeedbiker, whatever you set it to

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lightspeedbiker:

ok kormoc, I think it's set to /usr/share/mythtv/mytharchive does this make sense

[21:52:08]

** kormoc shrugs **

[21:52:23]

lightspeedbiker:

I'm getting the error message "No files found"

[21:52:27]

kormoc:

I use /mnt/multimedia/Videos/ personally, but it's entirely up to you

[21:52:35]

kormoc:

lightspeedbiker, do you have files in that directory?

[21:52:56]

lightspeedbiker:

I placed a file.mpg into the directory but sill no files

[21:53:14]

kormoc:

did you scan your collection?

[21:53:21]

lightspeedbiker:

Do you think the problem is a dir/file ownership issue?

[21:53:42]

lightspeedbiker:

OK kormoc, How does one start a scan?

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kormoc:

in the frontend, go to settings -> video manager

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kormoc:

it will scan and show you what it finds

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lightspeedbiker:

ok kormoc, I'll give it a go! thanks

[21:55:40]

lightspeedbiker:

ok kormoc, I ran scan it said no files found...

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lightspeedbiker:

maybe i should set it to a new directory with a file in it

[21:58:06]

lightspeedbiker:

ok kormoc one more question

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rexer:

awwwhh man... /dev/video0 is gone...

[21:59:00]

lightspeedbiker:

Is the directory set in util>settings>media settings>video settings>video setup> gen settings ????

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rexer:

brb.. rebooting older kernel.

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Plouj-:

hi

[22:09:41]

Plouj-:

any idea what kind of hardware in my desktop I need to be able to capture video from xbox360 at a resolution around 1024x768

[22:10:28]

Dr_willis:

Hmm.

[22:10:55]

Plouj-:

or actually, what are my options for capturing from xbox360 in Linux?

[22:10:59]

Dr_willis:

what kind of video outputs the xbox360 have anyway?

[22:11:06]

Plouj-:

no idea :)

[22:11:35]

Dr_willis:

My Hauggpage 150 has svideo in, and rca in. but those wouldent be that high a res capture would be my guess..

[22:11:56]

Dr_willis:

be same as capturing any other tv signal.

[22:12:36]

Hoxzer:

Geez, I'm still in in something with that girl

[22:12:40]

Hoxzer:

cannot get rid of her :(

[22:12:52]

Hoxzer:

she is just so good

[22:12:55]

Hoxzer:

so perfect

[22:13:01]

Hoxzer:

btu still so fucked up :(

[22:13:10]

Hoxzer:

not my type at all but still I have to have her

[22:13:22]

Hoxzer:

but cannot have her because I have no idea how to communicate with her

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caitlin:

with your mouth?

[22:13:41]

Hoxzer:

caitlin: like the topic ...

[22:13:44]

Plouj-:

install Bash on her

[22:13:50]

Hoxzer:

:O

[22:13:54]

Dr_willis:

Get her in an IRC chat room... you seem to be very verbose in here....

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caitlin:

whats up with her?

[22:14:16]

Hoxzer:

caitlin: well her ass ...

[22:14:19]

Hoxzer:

her face

[22:14:22]

Hoxzer:

her brains ...

[22:14:26]

caitlin:

she's ugly?

[22:14:29]

Hoxzer:

i wanna have whole package plz

[22:14:36]

Hoxzer:

caitlin: NO?

[22:14:44]

Hoxzer:

she is not ugly

[22:14:51]

caitlin:

so whats wrong?

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Plouj-:

well, ok, maybe I don't need that high of a resolution

[22:14:55]

Hoxzer:

ah, wrong

[22:15:00]

Hoxzer:

well she is so called pissis

[22:15:14]

Hoxzer:

:D and she likes hip-hop adn moves with that type of guys

[22:15:17]

Hoxzer:

they are total jerks

[22:15:34]

Hoxzer:

and ofcourse girls

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** Dr_willis is so OLD that he has no idea what Hoxzer is even talking about.... **

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Hoxzer:

:D

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Dr_willis:

first thing that i want to know about a female.. 'can she cook?'

[22:15:59]

Dr_willis:

:)

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caitlin:

so she's had a taste bypass?

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Hoxzer:

kinda like

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Plouj-:

where can I get a list of Hauppauge cards supported in Linux and their specs?

[22:17:20]

caitlin:

it's xmas

[22:17:26]

caitlin:

buy her some rock cds

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caitlin:

she'll realise she's an idiot and butch up

[22:17:50]

Dr_willis:

Plouj-, check the mythtv homepage/wiki.

[22:18:05]

Dr_willis:

Plouj-, i got a 150 – its decent. :) and was on sale. $50 after rebates

[22:18:08]

Milosch:

yes, this is the loveline channel apparently ;)

[22:18:28]

caitlin:

for this 20 mins it is, i'm bored

[22:18:39]

Milosch:

500 = 2 150's and it is decent, but for some reason the 350 tuner looks a lot better

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Dr_willis:

i thought i read 'somewhere' where the newer 150's have improved features in the capturing hardware, giving some better videos then they used to.

[22:19:46]

Cybertoy2:

hi all... I have a strange problem... I use optical output for all my audio ... when I watch LiveTV or listen to music though I don't get audio ... but when I go into alsamixer at the same time and mute IEC958 it works... now unfortunately it seems like IEC958 gets unmuted automatically...

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Cybertoy2:

someone see that before?

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kormoc:

lightspeedbiker, sounds bout right

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Jasper:

:p hello people

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lightspeedbiker:

ok kormoc, Have video recognized now, but fails to play,

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threedaymonk:

My MythTV installation has suddenly lost the ability to schedule: the list is empty, and even if I add a new programme, it doesn't appear in upcoming recordings. Any ideas?

[22:35:16]

Milosch:

might need to check/clear the table manually

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threedaymonk:

there are entries in record...

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threedaymonk:

I'll just make a dump and try clearing that table

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Milosch:

did you upgrade recently?

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threedaymonk:

no – I haven't touched anything, except to reboot

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rexer:

ls /dev/video*

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rexer:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 24 08:16 /dev/video0 -> v4l/video0

[22:40:42]

Jasper:

I'm gonna recode my mobile phone to be used as a remote control

[22:40:45]

Jasper:

is gonna be wicked :P

[22:41:04]

threedaymonk:

Milosch: I've DELETEd everything from the table; no luck. Should I restart mythbackend?

[22:41:21]

Milosch:

probably

[22:41:24]

Milosch:

can't hurt

[22:41:31]

Milosch:

much

[22:42:11]

threedaymonk:

interesting. it's killed mythweb

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Milosch:

you can enable some debugging and maybe see if it is having trouble with the table or maybe there is a segfault or something, could also be a damaged table if your machine crashed recently

[22:42:39]

** threedaymonk restarts apache **

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Milosch:

debian et al will usually email the admin if that happens

[22:43:37]

threedaymonk:

hmm. ubuntu doesn't even *have* mail

[22:43:51]

Milosch:

what?

[22:44:03]

Milosch:

i'm sure they install exim by default

[22:44:08]

caitlin:

seems not!

[22:44:18]

caitlin:

maybe they do on the server version

[22:44:28]

threedaymonk:

I know it didn't crash, anyway

[22:44:30]

Milosch:

they did on my two boxes, just a standard downloaded version

[22:44:44]

Milosch:

running edgy on the myth box, actually

[22:44:55]

caitlin:

i'm runnign edgy 64 on mine

[22:44:59]

caitlin:

no exim

[22:45:01]

caitlin:

or postfix

[22:45:17]

caitlin:

or sendmail

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Jasper:

omg

[22:45:28]

Milosch:

yeah, just looking on mine

[22:45:31]

Jasper:

'the wonder years' best series ever :P

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threedaymonk:

Milosch: you mentioned enabling debugging: how do I do that?

[22:48:14]

Milosch:

mythbackend -v help

[22:48:27]

Milosch:

mythbackend -v all would show everything it can

[22:49:13]

Milosch:

add something like that to whatever starts it. I have done that, running it foreground and watching as i run things in mythfrontend

[22:49:37]

Milosch:

all shows a LOT, so be ready ;)

[22:49:51]

Milosch:

-v database might be more appropriate

[22:50:21]

Jasper:

anyone else here using phone / nintendo ds / pda as remote control?

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Milosch:

pda would be cool, i have an old visor here somewhere with the remote program...

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Milosch:

and the blaster

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Milosch:

module

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Jasper:

I'm just starting to program a java module for the symbian os system

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Jasper:

if anyone is interested

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Milosch:

ah

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Jasper:

gonna rewire the keys of the phone to function as number keys...

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threedaymonk:

ah, whoops, looks like it's jobqueue that's the table I need to look at

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Jasper:

and I have the 4 way button for the menu

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Jasper:

would be cool I guess

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Milosch:

i don't guess my phone could much more than take a picture of the tv set

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Jasper:

oh

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Jasper:

:(

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Milosch:

samsung razor copy

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Jasper:

mine runs wireless g ...

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Jasper:

so it's quite handy

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Milosch:

you know that's what they call a cell phone in germany

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Milosch:

at least the last time i heard

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Jasper:

you mean handy

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Milosch:

yeah

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Jasper:

yes I do know that :P

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Milosch:

k ;)

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Jasper:

since I live very close to germany

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Jasper:

:P

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Milosch:

hehe

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Milosch:

all i can see from here is that your name is in red ;)

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threedaymonk:

I'm not getting anything more useful in the logs than QUERY_GETALLPENDING – which returns 0[]:[]0 (which means nothing I guess...)

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Milosch:

maybe stop the backend, restart mysql and check the system logs to be sure there is not a table problem

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Milosch:

i hope you have enough disk space

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threedaymonk:

I do

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threedaymonk:

80GB free

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Milosch:

can you send that over, please

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Milosch:

anyone using jfs for their store ?

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threedaymonk:

sorry, was that for me?

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Milosch:

threedaymonk: was a joke, i.e. send me the free space

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threedaymonk:

:-)

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Milosch:

not much of one, i reckon

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threedaymonk:

Shouldn't take long if I gzip it first ;-)

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Milosch:

right...

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threedaymonk:

no mysql problems, apparently (logs are empty)

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Milosch:

good

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Jasper:

hehe

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Jasper:

managed to get a 'hello world' on my phone

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Jasper:

we're on the way :P

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threedaymonk:

there are a couple of pending jobs in housekeeping: JobQueueCleanup and JobQueueRecover-mediapc

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threedaymonk:

they seem to signify something

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threedaymonk:

... though I don't know what (and nor does Google)

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rexer:

hmmm...

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rexer:

| Attempting to contact the master backend for rescheduling. |

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rexer:

2006-12–24 09:19:19.642 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5)

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rexer:

2006-12–24 09:19:19.643 Connection timed out.

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rexer:

awwwhhh man...

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threedaymonk:

the backend seems to be *really* busy with EITHelper updating programme details. Is that normal?

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Milosch:

maybe disable that

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threedaymonk:

oh, how do I do that?

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Milosch:

i think there is a frontend config, but also in mythtv setup

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Milosch:

sorry, have to search

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rexer:

ok.. i see a lot of could not connect to master backend server messages..

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rexer:

prolly indeicator of the network settings?

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** threedaymonk reads "There's guide data until 2028-07–05 21:52 (7864 days)." **

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** briand wonders about the accuracy of that "data" **

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kormoc:

quick, sell the data to the networks so they can fire the programmers and save tons of money!

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threedaymonk:

it was one programme, called 'unknown'

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threedaymonk:

not worth much, alas!

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rexer:

uhh? what / qe?

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rexer:

rebootin.

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mchou:

lol, just found out reiser is up for sale

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mchou:

gotta pay his legal bills

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mchou:

so much for that FS

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caitlin:

has he been locked up yet?

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mchou:

no, dont think so

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mchou:

the whole affair is rather sordid

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