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| [00:12:41] | juski: | that's better |
| [00:12:52] | juski: | Ewrongserver |
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| [00:28:29] | nandor: | any idea why my RingBuffer would get an invalid file handle (-1) when trying to watch live tv? — the path to the file looks good — the file gets created but sits at size 0 |
| [00:29:05] | juski: | do scheduled recordings work? |
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| [00:29:23] | Paladine: | juski, new cpu is fitted :) |
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| [00:29:32] | juski: | Paladine: nifty |
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| [00:29:46] | Paladine: | notbad temps either |
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| [00:29:47] | nandor: | juski: they seem to yes |
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| [00:29:57] | juski: | nandor: check your livetv recording profile |
| [00:29:59] | Paladine: | CPU Temp: +32°C (low = +15°C, high = +55°C) sensor = thermistor |
| [00:30:00] | Paladine: | M/B Temp: +35°C (low = +15°C, high = +45°C) sensor = thermistor |
| [00:30:00] | Paladine: | Chipset T: +27°C (low = +15°C, high = +50°C) sensor = thermistor |
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| [00:30:06] | nandor: | kk |
| [00:30:07] | Paladine: | thats whilst watching mpeg2 video |
| [00:30:20] | juski: | 32'C?! |
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| [00:30:40] | Paladine: | also I am using my old single core hs and fan |
| [00:30:42] | juski: | I can't believe that's an AMD CPU ;) |
| [00:30:48] | Paladine: | on my new dual core |
| [00:30:55] | Paladine: | Computer: main | Distro: Ubuntu 6.06 "dapper" | Processor: 2.21Ghz | Model: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ | Memory: 2027MB Free: 1634MB [▀▀▀â–&euro ;▀▀▀â–&euro ;▀▀▀â–&euro ;▀▀] | Diskspace: 459.00GB Free: 331.00GB | Video: nVidia NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] X2 @ 2560x1024 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 19.88MB Up: 3.94MB |
| [00:31:22] | Tronic: | I have 19 °C on P4 Prescott. |
| [00:31:34] | juski: | so they've stopped making up numbers now, have they – amd I mean |
| [00:31:40] | Paladine: | Tronic, this is a 110W CPU hehehe |
| [00:31:55] | juski: | 4400 == 2200 * 2 :) |
| [00:32:02] | Paladine: | yes |
| [00:32:28] | Tronic: | Paladine: Mine isn't quite that powerful, I think. It's 3.0 GHz, overclocked to 3.5 GHz. |
| [00:32:54] | Paladine: | yeah I could OC this to 3GHz per core |
| [00:33:13] | cureless: | by that you mean 3Ghz |
| [00:33:15] | juski: | jees with those kind of core temps I should trade in my epia |
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| [00:33:22] | Tronic: | Just good 'ol single-core all the way here. |
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| [00:33:54] | Paladine: | juski, if I was using a high end hs and fanIexpect I could get it down to about 23–25C |
| [00:34:03] | Tronic: | However, I don't think that Prescott can be cooled in any reasonable way without liquid cooling. |
| [00:34:10] | Paladine: | and with liquid colling probably as low as 15C |
| [00:34:17] | Tronic: | Heatpipes just aren't effective enough. |
| [00:34:31] | Tronic: | ... and regular heatsinks don't stand a chance. |
| [00:35:39] | Tronic: | My current system uses liquid cooling for two computers. The heat exchange unit is hanging outside my window and has a powerful 120 mm fan on it. |
| [00:36:01] | Paladine: | am gonna buy one of these to replace the existing hs and fan |
| [00:36:01] | Paladine: | http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-000-AR |
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| [00:36:14] | juski: | oh ffs |
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| [00:36:22] | Tronic: | Since it's around 0 °C outside, the boxes run quite cool. |
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| [00:36:28] | Paladine: | juski, well I can't hear it under my desk |
| [00:36:35] | Paladine: | and thats with the case open |
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| [00:36:50] | chickeneater: | cureless: I got my gamecube today and it appears that there is very little if not unnoticable lag with my pvr-250 |
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| [00:37:52] | chickeneater: | cureless: though, I am currently having to hook it up via coaxial but I think something is screwy with my tuner. http://picasaweb.google.com/lastlee/UntitledA . . . 236039638034 |
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| [00:38:17] | Paladine: | juski, I hope my usb/rf controller arrives tomorrow |
| [00:38:24] | Paladine: | or I won't get it til wednesday :( |
| [00:38:50] | nandor: | rad that fixed it6 |
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| [00:41:33] | cureless: | chickeneater: that doesn't look very good |
| [00:42:18] | cureless: | chickeneater: but why the tuner? doesn't the gamecube output s-video/composite? |
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| [00:43:17] | juski: | xris: being a pest again I know.. another mockup for you http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ . . . /mockup6.png |
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| [00:44:22] | chickeneater: | cureless: I just got it off ebay... it only came with an RF Modulator |
| [00:44:31] | cureless: | chickeneater: I see. |
| [00:44:36] | chickeneater: | cureless: I got another one that hopefully has s-video |
| [00:44:45] | cureless: | chickeneater: why did you get 2? |
| [00:44:50] | chickeneater: | cureless: would you happen to know why it looks like that? |
| [00:45:01] | chickeneater: | cureless: they were cheap :P... I'm going to sell one |
| [00:45:07] | cureless: | chickeneater: maybe you don't have it set to the right channel/frequency |
| [00:45:15] | chickeneater: | I'm pretty sure it is right |
| [00:45:33] | chickeneater: | I even tried hooking up cable tv to it and it has the same problem |
| [00:45:34] | cureless: | chickeneater: try tuning to other channels/frequencies with ivtv-tune (iirc) |
| [00:45:45] | chickeneater: | tried that |
| [00:45:57] | cureless: | chickeneater: can you change the channel when using cable tv? |
| [00:46:01] | xris: | juski: not a pest when you're giving me things. :) |
| [00:46:02] | chickeneater: | yeah |
| [00:46:05] | cureless: | does the channel change and all channels look the same? |
| [00:46:22] | cureless: | make sure you have selected the right frequency set (ie cable-hrc-us, etc) |
| [00:46:32] | chickeneater: | no, the channel changes, but they are all horribly messed up |
| [00:46:37] | chickeneater: | hmm... |
| [00:46:48] | xris: | juski: looks good. Ambivalent about the swoosh on the trough, and I like the white border button. |
| [00:46:49] | juski: | I wanna make mythweb look like that last mockup6.png one day |
| [00:47:12] | cureless: | chickeneater: there are a couple of sets, from myth setup you can probably change them (though don't use myth to play with your console) |
| [00:47:19] | xris: | mythweb is a little more difficult to do like that. you really need all possible horizontal space for listings. |
| [00:47:34] | cureless: | chickeneater: I have to go, good luck with the debug, people here might be able to help you. |
| [00:47:36] | cureless: | later |
| [00:47:54] | xris: | juski: I'd vote for a little more 3d-ification around the trough area, too |
| [00:48:04] | xris: | but I just like bevel/emboss. :) |
| [00:48:07] | juski: | mockup7.png :) |
| [00:48:18] | chickeneater: | a'giht |
| [00:48:19] | chickeneater: | thanks |
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| [00:49:50] | Rhiliam: | Hello, does anyone know how to center the output of the TV-Out on an Nvidia card? |
| [00:50:37] | juski: | you don't |
| [00:50:49] | juski: | but you can centre myth's UI |
| [00:51:32] | Rhiliam: | I have tried centering the UI, but it didn't help. |
| [00:52:29] | Rhiliam: | I still have about a 1 inch black bar on the left hand side. |
| [00:52:55] | juski: | ah you need overscan by the sound of it |
| [00:53:02] | juski: | search the wiki for overscan |
| [00:53:20] | Rhiliam: | I can make it smaller with overscan in xorg.conf, but the picture then become really chopped off on the right hand side.. |
| [00:53:31] | Rhiliam: | will do a search – thx |
| [00:53:39] | xris: | juski: like I said. ambivalent. torn equally in both directions. |
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| [00:54:09] | xris: | Rhiliam: center? you can reposition with nvidia-settings, but that's about it. |
| [00:54:16] | acm: | where are the settings created in mythtv-setup stored? |
| [00:54:23] | GreyFoxx: | the sql database |
| [00:54:24] | xris: | acm: the database |
| [00:54:47] | acm: | mythtv-setup's main screen is showing up blank for me, think i setup a theme i dont have |
| [00:54:52] | acm: | wanted to reset it |
| [00:55:02] | xris: | acm: mythweb installed? |
| [00:55:04] | acm: | if i hit 'enter', other screens will show, just not the main screen |
| [00:55:09] | acm: | xris: yeah, haven't used it yet though |
| [00:55:25] | xris: | there's a raw settings editor there... but if you want to change your theme, that's in the frontend, not -setup |
| [00:55:28] | acm: | ubuntu 6.10.. |
| [00:55:43] | slowone: | can one use xvid tune with tv output? (would test myself cept stuck at work for another 4 minutes ;)) |
| [00:56:47] | juski: | heheh xris. someone has to make the call. I think the straight edge will make it easier to code into a working page though |
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| [00:57:24] | xris: | juski: nah, that's easy to deal with |
| [00:57:42] | xris: | it's just a matter of setting it as the background image for that frame |
| [00:57:43] | voidmage: | Does anyone know anything about getting the pvr-150 mce remote working in lirc? |
| [00:57:48] | voidmage: | right now i'm using lirc_mceusb2 |
| [00:57:49] | xris: | er, not <frame> but just frame. |
| [00:57:58] | voidmage: | and when i start irw it does nothing, quits, and kills lirc |
| [00:58:00] | xris: | voidmage: mceusb2 remote is nicer. |
| [00:59:13] | juski: | xris: mockup8.png and 9.png are up now |
| [00:59:22] | juski: | mockup9.png that is |
| [00:59:47] | xris: | 8 ick, 9 not bad |
| [01:00:01] | voidmage: | any ideas? |
| [01:00:19] | xris: | voidmage: why do you want to use the pvr-150 remote when the mceusb2 remote is better? |
| [01:00:25] | voidmage: | Er |
| [01:00:29] | voidmage: | my pvr-150 came with the mceusb2 |
| [01:00:56] | xris: | voidmage: that's a different matter... |
| [01:01:03] | voidmage: | Poorly worded question |
| [01:01:52] | xris: | juski: you'll need to make that shading consistent across the section bordering the content area, and personally I would go for a smaller area of fuzz, with possibly some 3d diff (2–3 px maybe0 between trough and top menu area |
| [01:02:17] | xris: | voidmage: error logs? strace? |
| [01:02:34] | voidmage: | hold on |
| [01:05:20] | voidmage: | xris: http://themassive.ath.cx/irw.strace |
| [01:05:31] | juski: | mockup10.png is up |
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| [01:06:31] | xris: | juski: now it looks like the trough is inside of the menu.. my goal was to get something sort of "next to and below" |
| [01:06:53] | juski: | ahh |
| [01:07:01] | acm: | hm, maybe my problem is im rending in opengl and i have a bad vid card. anyway to turn that off manually? |
| [01:07:01] | xris: | 3 layers of depth in the page... menu, trough, content... or menu, content, trough |
| [01:07:26] | xris: | voidmage: on lircd. that's the thing that's crashing |
| [01:07:29] | voidmage: | oh |
| [01:07:30] | voidmage: | okay |
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| [01:08:41] | voidmage: | xris: http://themassive.ath.cx/lircd.strace |
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| [01:10:49] | xris: | voidmage: nothing stands out to you? |
| [01:11:07] | xris: | like maybe the last 7 lines? |
| [01:12:26] | voidmage: | yeah, but i'm not sure what's causing that |
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| [01:13:44] | juski: | ouch, this is difficult to draw |
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| [01:15:55] | xris: | juski: you using gimp or photoshop? |
| [01:16:16] | xris: | it's *easy* in photoshop |
| [01:16:40] | xris: | voidmage: man chmod |
| [01:17:24] | voidmage: | I was running it as root |
| [01:17:30] | voidmage: | Not sure why it's doing that still |
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| [01:20:09] | juski: | mockup11.png |
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| [01:20:47] | Krazylegz: | kormoc: So, I can boot Knoppix and DMA works on my drive. hdparm shows nice numbers for the drive. When I boot in Gentoo, I can't turn on DMA. |
| [01:20:49] | Krazylegz: | Any ideas? |
| [01:20:59] | Krazylegz: | I'm guessing it's a kernel config issue. |
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| [01:21:05] | juski: | prolly |
| [01:21:36] | Krazylegz: | I'm pretty sure that's what's making my system really slow, not having DMA on. |
| [01:21:40] | juski: | xris: this is beginning to look startlingly similar to a theme idea I once mashed up |
| [01:21:41] | xris: | juski: ooh. not what I was thinking of, but I like 11 |
| [01:22:06] | xris: | can you put a little groove around the trough? |
| [01:22:29] | xris: | juski: you using gimp or photoshop? |
| [01:22:35] | juski: | neither |
| [01:22:43] | xris: | what, then? |
| [01:22:50] | juski: | paintshop pro, photochop's poor relation |
| [01:22:54] | xris: | ahh |
| [01:23:08] | xris: | yeah, emboss/groove effects are just a checkbox in photoshop |
| [01:23:10] | xris: | really handy |
| [01:23:13] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, could be a specific problem with the kernel you are using, what ide chipset and kernel version? |
| [01:23:15] | juski: | yeah I know |
| [01:23:27] | juski: | sadly navigating the UI isn't |
| [01:23:43] | juski: | I tried it, loved the features but hated the ui |
| [01:24:02] | Krazylegz: | kormoc: Pundit-R which is Via something or other. 2.6.19-r1. |
| [01:24:09] | xris: | juski: I've been using it for about 15 years. heh |
| [01:24:22] | Krazylegz: | Might try -r2 but I'm having enough other issues yet. Like udev hangs at boot just about every time. |
| [01:24:30] | Krazylegz: | Which I think may be related to the DMA issue. |
| [01:24:41] | xris: | ui doesn't bother me. I just use keyboard shortcuts for everything |
| [01:24:53] | juski: | so.. I'd better clear this up now.. by 'trough' you mean which part? |
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| [01:25:02] | juski: | top, left of the white section? |
| [01:25:11] | juski: | s/of/or |
| [01:25:54] | juski: | the other thing about photoshop's emboss & stuff is that is doesn't follow curves like these very well |
| [01:28:38] | xris: | trough is the left nav area |
| [01:29:09] | xris: | I've never had issues with emboss not following curves.. just a matter of fixing the light direction. |
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| [01:29:40] | xris: | juski: I think of the trough like the pull out drawer-like things that OSX uses in some windows |
| [01:30:16] | juski: | ahh |
| [01:30:29] | juski: | so where's the groove going? |
| [01:31:37] | xris: | border |
| [01:32:08] | juski: | thought so |
| [01:32:12] | juski: | that'll work |
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| [01:32:18] | xris: | my original idea was to get something that looked like 3 separate pieces.. trough and menu intersecting (or trough sliding out of the menu), sitting on top of the page content. |
| [01:33:17] | blayne: | Hey all. Something crazy. I upgraded mythtv last night, and ever since, I cannot change channels with up and down arrows, but can by entering numbers. |
| [01:33:38] | xris: | blayne: to/from what? |
| [01:33:45] | blayne: | Also, when I play recordings, there is no display on the screen, no "Tuner 1", no time, no volume, no position in stream. |
| [01:34:08] | blayne: | From 0.20–135 to 0.20–148 |
| [01:34:50] | tank-man: | blayne, see if you get response to key presses from lirc |
| [01:34:59] | tank-man: | use mode2 or irw |
| [01:35:07] | xris: | blayne: the numbers after the 0.20 mean nothing to me |
| [01:35:20] | blayne: | Same thing with lirc, the keys that usually channel up and down don't do anything. |
| [01:36:26] | blayne: | I noted that a myththemes-0.20–110 AND mythtv-themes-0.20–148 came down as dependencies |
| [01:37:00] | blayne: | Wonder if I have two theme packages clashing or something (on the control display not showing up) |
| [01:37:09] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, are you using gentoo sources or vanilla? |
| [01:37:21] | juski: | xris: mockup12.png |
| [01:37:41] | blayne: | tank-man, remote is fine. irw shows the keystrokes, and all other controls seem to work |
| [01:38:13] | blayne: | At the moment, I'm more worried about where all the info is |
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| [01:38:55] | voidmage: | mode2: error opening /dev/lirc |
| [01:38:56] | voidmage: | mode2: No such device |
| [01:39:04] | blayne: | Actually, now that I think about it, it may be browsing channels, but since I can't see the display, it looks like the keypresses aren't working |
| [01:39:06] | voidmage: | crw-rw---- 1 root root 61, 0 2006-12–21 19:49 /dev/lirc |
| [01:39:13] | voidmage: | (/dev/lirc does exist) |
| [01:39:26] | voidmage: | So i'm not sure where that comes from |
| [01:39:32] | voidmage: | unless the c means something i don't recognize |
| [01:39:45] | xris: | voidmage: did you fix the permissions on /var/run? |
| [01:39:52] | xris: | or whatever it was |
| [01:39:58] | voidmage: | it was /var/run/lircd.pid |
| [01:40:12] | voidmage: | lircd deletes that when it stops |
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| [01:41:22] | blayne: | Does anyone else have two theme packages on their box? mythtv-theme and myththemes |
| [01:41:48] | blayne: | Are they different? |
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| [01:50:58] | xris: | juski: too much. I'm thinking of like 1–2 px total.. groove border setting in photoshop. |
| [01:51:25] | juski: | heh. who's gonna buy me photochop then? |
| [01:51:26] | xris: | I'm seriously impressed that you're doing this in paintshop, though. |
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| [01:54:47] | voidmage: | hmm. |
| [01:54:53] | voidmage: | I have a /dev/lirc |
| [01:54:59] | voidmage: | But no /dev/lirc0 or /dev/lirc/0 |
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| [01:55:09] | voidmage: | Would that cause anything or no? |
| [01:55:41] | juski: | lirc config snafu, perhaps? |
| [01:56:09] | voidmage: | hmm |
| [01:56:29] | tank-man: | voidmage, how did you install it? |
| [01:56:47] | voidmage: | I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lir . . . e11f87057de5 |
| [01:56:57] | voidmage: | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Edgy |
| [01:57:20] | voidmage: | I can't get it to run irw |
| [01:57:21] | tank-man: | that url looks scary. did you install from source? |
| [01:57:31] | voidmage: | When I run irw it exits without doing anything |
| [01:57:44] | voidmage: | I installed with apt-get |
| [01:58:08] | tank-man: | did you install the module ? |
| [01:58:13] | voidmage: | yeah |
| [01:58:18] | voidmage: | that i compiled |
| [01:58:23] | tank-man: | load it |
| [01:58:27] | tank-man: | modprobe |
| [01:58:28] | voidmage: | it's already loaded |
| [01:58:41] | voidmage: | if you want i have straces |
| [01:58:46] | voidmage: | http://themassive.ath.cx/irw.strace |
| [01:58:53] | voidmage: | http://themassive.ath.cx/lircd.strace |
| [01:59:03] | tank-man: | i dont know what to do witha strace |
| [01:59:22] | tank-man: | did you run that setup.sh file first? and pick your device |
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| [02:03:22] | voidmage: | still nothing |
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| [02:19:41] | voidmage: | Rebooted, still nothing |
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| [02:24:45] | mistone: | Ok I just replaced my PCI ATI card with a APG nvidia card and I am using a DVI to HDMI to connect to my HDTV |
| [02:25:08] | mistone: | but the computer does one long beep then two short ones ( it means it can't display the screen) what should I do |
| [02:25:15] | mistone: | its a FX5500 |
| [02:25:28] | juski: | sounds like it's broken |
| [02:25:40] | sandeen: | mistone, guess it can't even boot right |
| [02:25:50] | mistone: | um fuck? |
| [02:25:56] | mistone: | lol |
| [02:26:33] | sandeen: | unplug, reseat, etc.... |
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| [02:31:59] | mistone: | could it be it is looking for hte PCI card still? |
| [02:35:19] | juski: | possibly. depends what the BIOS is set to |
| [02:36:41] | mistone: | yea it does the same without hte card |
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| [02:36:53] | mistone: | so I am going to plug both in at the same time |
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| [02:38:04] | cptpotato: | anyone here use mythphone?" |
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| [02:39:43] | cptpotato: | i want to get my mythtv phone working with a sorenson vp to talk to deafies |
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| [02:51:17] | mk500: | hi all...does anyone know how I can make sure a script is called each time a program is about to berecorded? I have firewire box (6200), and need to reset it each time I record. |
| [02:51:42] | cptpotato: | cron? |
| [02:53:15] | mk500: | cptpotato: my setup script needs to run just before every recording, not once per day |
| [02:53:44] | juski: | cptpotato: if that videophone uses SIP then you can |
| [02:53:48] | mk500: | cptpotato: I guess I could run it hourly, but that's not optimal |
| [02:53:55] | cptpotato: | i never used cron.. but cant u set it up to run on a specified time? |
| [02:53:57] | juski: | mk500: external channel change script? ;) |
| [02:54:27] | mk500: | juski: that's an idea...yeah |
| [02:54:31] | juski: | mk500: actually you're prolly already using one, just add the reset bit into that, I'd guess |
| [02:55:01] | mk500: | I'm not, actually, as the channel change over firewire is built into my version of MythTV |
| [02:55:33] | GreyFoxx: | mk500: Myth doesn't have a build in way to trigger a scriptbefore a recording starts |
| [02:55:38] | cptpotato: | juski, the main thing is to use a cam so i can sign |
| [02:55:43] | GreyFoxx: | You wouldl likely have to mod the code to do that |
| [02:56:24] | cptpotato: | id say just write a pl script that runs in the background and executes what u want at a given time |
| [02:56:48] | juski: | I thought it'd run the external chan change script every time |
| [02:57:21] | GreyFoxx: | juski: hmmm..... good thought if he can also use that to change his channel |
| [02:57:42] | juski: | ah that'll defeat the auto-chango eh? |
| [02:57:43] | juski: | heh |
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| [02:58:06] | mk500: | but hopefully I can stil call the 6200ch script to do the channel change (after my stuff runs) |
| [02:58:14] | mk500: | I'm going to play around with that idea |
| [02:58:18] | mk500: | thanks for all the help! |
| [02:58:34] | GreyFoxx: | mk500: If you are using an external script to change channels just have 1 script do your joband then call the channel changer |
| [02:59:36] | mk500: | Grey: good idea....a master script that calls the two others |
| [03:00:15] | mk500: | ok, I gotta run......I'll report back with whether it all worked :-D |
| [03:00:43] | GreyFoxx: | Thank Juski, I hadn't though about the channel changer :) |
| [03:01:17] | Krazylegz: | Hmm, no Cardoe. |
| [03:01:18] | juski: | I've been on form this week I think |
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| [03:09:14] | GreyFoxx: | hee |
| [03:09:18] | GreyFoxx: | not me |
| [03:09:25] | GreyFoxx: | In fixing one bug I introduced another the other day |
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| [03:10:52] | crudpuppy: | well, I finally decided to buy a pvr-150 |
| [03:11:04] | crudpuppy: | now just to make it work |
| [03:11:05] | crudpuppy: | lol |
| [03:11:24] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: You're a FreeBSD guru, right? |
| [03:11:47] | mistone: | YAY it works :D |
| [03:11:52] | mistone: | ok now I got another question |
| [03:11:57] | mistone: | atm I got it hooked up to a moniter |
| [03:11:59] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: Actually I prefer OpenBSD :) |
| [03:12:05] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
| [03:12:16] | Krazylegz: | I was looking for a book recommendation for admining FBSD. |
| [03:12:19] | GreyFoxx: | but to be honest I just haven'tused FreeBSD in a while so I'm sure it's very different :) |
| [03:12:21] | mistone: | and I got my DVI HDTV, what do I do to make sure the TV doesn't get messed up |
| [03:12:32] | mistone: | I heard some configurations in X can make fry the TV |
| [03:14:05] | crudpuppy: | I heard that too |
| [03:14:12] | crudpuppy: | whats that all about? |
| [03:14:17] | crudpuppy: | really true? |
| [03:14:52] | mistone: | I dunno but I don't want to fry it and I need to know what to do before I connect it up |
| [03:15:09] | crudpuppy: | don't look at me |
| [03:15:19] | crudpuppy: | I'm still trying to get whats suppose to be an easy card workin |
| [03:15:20] | crudpuppy: | lol |
| [03:15:47] | crudpuppy: | by the way, can anyone perhaps tell me why the pvr-150 I bought when scanning channels doesnt hit any |
| [03:15:59] | crudpuppy: | its hook'd to the cable |
| [03:16:05] | crudpuppy: | line |
| [03:16:05] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: Thanks though. I'm having a heck of a time coming from Linux. |
| [03:20:38] | Krazylegz: | Anyone want to help me if I pastebin my Xorg.0.log and ask a few questions? :-) |
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| [03:21:53] | crudpuppy: | hmmm |
| [03:21:57] | crudpuppy: | this could have something to do with it |
| [03:21:57] | mistone: | if my HDTV is LCD can I screw it up with xorg? |
| [03:22:15] | crudpuppy: | when I start myth backend I get a msg on screen saying tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
| [03:23:38] | crudpuppy: | and |
| [03:23:53] | crudpuppy: | when I go to watch tv, the backend says can't enable vbi recording (2) |
| [03:24:00] | crudpuppy: | vbi : invalid argument |
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| [03:28:26] | Krazylegz: | mistone: Don't think so. Juski told me no. |
| [03:29:43] | mistone: | Ok... |
| [03:30:02] | mistone: | I am a little shaky lol |
| [03:30:35] | juski: | it shouldn't be possible to break a flat panelwith a duff modeline |
| [03:30:51] | juski: | ymmv ;) |
| [03:33:13] | crudpuppy: | do I need to do this test_ioctl crap I'm reading in some forums? |
| [03:33:17] | crudpuppy: | this is knopmyth |
| [03:33:21] | Krazylegz: | juski: You can do 24-bit color and it looks good on your set? |
| [03:37:20] | juski: | I don't have a flat panel |
| [03:37:57] | juski: | not getting one til I have a device which can play back h.264 hd silently |
| [03:38:05] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
| [03:38:14] | juski: | and that's not likely til analogue gets switched off |
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| [03:38:42] | juski: | anyway I know how panels work.. there's no way (in theory) you can knacker one with a dodgy modeline |
| [03:44:38] | juski: | xris: just before I go to bed (damn this bitmap editing addiction)... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ . . . mockup13.png |
| [03:46:29] | juski: | just something different I thought I'd try, nm |
| [03:48:51] | mistone: | Ok |
| [03:54:25] | juski: | right. time for bed. busy, busy day ahead |
| [03:55:08] | Krazylegz: | Goodnight. |
| [04:01:08] | crudpuppy: | I set options ivtv tuner=50 in modules.conf now I get redish static instead of pure blackish static |
| [04:01:09] | crudpuppy: | lol |
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| [04:01:39] | defaultro: | hey folks, anyone here uses 2.35:1 AR? |
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| [04:14:42] | sandeen: | how does one query the backend status from teh commandline? |
| [04:18:52] | GreyFoxx: | For one? See if something is recording ? |
| [04:21:12] | GreyFoxx: | lynx -dump http://192.168.0.10:6544/ | grep "Encoder " | grep "recording" |
| [04:21:18] | GreyFoxx: | replace the IP with your backend IP |
| [04:21:19] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [04:31:38] | sandeen: | GreyFoxx, sorta thought there was an easier way.. saw something in setup about which port to use for status |
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| [04:42:32] | GreyFoxx: | sane: Port 6544 is the status port |
| [04:42:35] | GreyFoxx: | oops missed him |
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| [05:02:03] | mistone_: | ok so I got my nvidia DVI output connected to a DVI to HDMI connected to my HD LCD TV |
| [05:02:35] | mistone_: | however I can't get the resolution higher then 800X600 |
| [05:02:40] | mistone_: | wtf ;o |
| [05:02:41] | mistone_: | :( |
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| [05:29:48] | cesman: | hello hello |
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| [05:33:46] | blayne: | Hey gang, earlier I was here mentioning that I couldn't see my overlayed display in mythtv. Found out what it was... |
| [05:34:02] | blayne: | Very simply, switched OSD to blueosd instead of abstractosd |
| [05:34:54] | blayne: | Just thought I'd let you know in case a soul was interested (no). :) |
| [05:35:10] | blayne: | Well, when the mythbox becomes operational again, my house is a happy place. |
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| [05:54:35] | crudpuppy: | ok, pvr-150(1045) and its got nothing but static. |
| [05:54:53] | crudpuppy: | I get this in dmesg tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
| [05:55:03] | crudpuppy: | I don't have a clue at this point |
| [05:55:08] | crudpuppy: | please help |
| [05:55:31] | xris: | crudpuppy: I'd recommend reading through the ivtv wiki/documentation |
| [05:55:49] | crudpuppy: | yeah, the ivtv stuff is confusing as heck |
| [05:55:50] | crudpuppy: | lol |
| [05:56:06] | crudpuppy: | I did several google searchs that came across some stuff on this |
| [05:56:13] | crudpuppy: | but none of em gave me a solution |
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| [06:01:35] | xris: | http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto |
| [06:02:02] | xris: | hmm, doesn't mention the tuner type settings. annoying. |
| [06:03:16] | crudpuppy: | yeah, I'm looking through there now |
| [06:03:20] | crudpuppy: | don't see nothing really |
| [06:03:55] | crudpuppy: | only thing I got left to try is moving this thing from the knoppmyth box to gentoo and try it there, where I can kinda do my own thing and start from scratch |
| [06:04:01] | crudpuppy: | not that I really think that'll do me much good |
| [06:04:02] | crudpuppy: | lol |
| [06:05:16] | xris: | wow. nice woot |
| [06:05:43] | xris: | crudpuppy: knopmyth is supposed to detect things like the pvr cards... |
| [06:05:55] | xris: | but the general rule *is* to stick with the distro that you know best. |
| [06:06:01] | xris: | plenty of people here who know gentoo |
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| [06:09:44] | tcpsyn: | Gentlemen. |
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| [06:24:37] | tcpsyn: | shit |
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| [06:33:41] | xris: | tcpsyn: watch the language |
| [06:34:08] | tcpsyn: | My apologies, wrong channel. |
| [06:39:04] | Dagmar: | So, how does one resolve both "the general rule *is* to stick with the distro that you know best." and "plenty of people here who know gentoo" not inspire you to raw terror? |
| [06:39:16] | Dagmar: | er not to inspire you |
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| [06:39:39] | Dagmar: | Because if Gentoo is the distro these people know *best* it's a wonder they can eat breakfast without losing an eye |
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| [06:40:53] | mistone_: | I still can't configue xorg to get my HD LCD TV to go past 800x600 :( |
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| [06:41:43] | Dagmar: | So, have you tried running xorgconfig or reading any documentation? |
| [06:42:09] | mistone_: | yea |
| [06:42:31] | mistone_: | well I am in ubuntu so I ran dpkg-reconfigure insteadof xorgconfig |
| [06:42:45] | Dagmar: | Okay, so you haven't actually done either of those things then. |
| [06:43:51] | mistone_: | I don't even have xorgconfi |
| [06:43:54] | mistone_: | *g |
| [06:44:42] | Dagmar: | Does your distro use xorg or xfree? |
| [06:45:02] | tcpsyn: | I think ubuntu is xorg |
| [06:45:22] | Dagmar: | Then it will have xorgconfig |
| [06:45:25] | mistone_: | xorg |
| [06:45:40] | mistone_: | nope! |
| [06:46:07] | mistone_: | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is basicly the same thing and is what you are supposed to use |
| [06:46:16] | Dagmar: | So then why doesn't it work? |
| [06:46:45] | mistone_: | I don't know? |
| [06:46:49] | mistone_: | thats why I asked |
| [06:46:55] | Dagmar: | Besides which, unless you give the tool you did run intelligent answers, it's still not going to work |
| [06:47:01] | Dagmar: | So what, exactly, have you tried so far? |
| [06:47:13] | mistone_: | tuns of stuff |
| [06:47:23] | Dagmar: | Okay, that's enough nonsense for me tonight then |
| [06:47:31] | mistone_: | added a modeline, couldn't change resolutions |
| [06:48:07] | mistone_: | disabled edid |
| [06:48:19] | mistone_: | updgraded to the new nvidia driver |
| [06:48:37] | mistone_: | I am sleeping now tho :( |
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| [06:48:52] | tcpsyn: | strange fello. |
| [06:49:23] | Dagmar: | Damned if I'm going to wade through another idiot claiming he did a lot of things, when those "things" might as well have been picked out of a hat at random |
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| [06:56:24] | tcpsyn: | think I"ll be able to get mythstreamtv working if I compile ffmpeg with --disable-v4l? |
| [06:56:49] | tcpsyn: | seems the only way I can get it to build. |
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| [08:08:57] | mistone: | OMG |
| [08:09:00] | mistone: | YES |
| [08:09:10] | mistone: | FULL HD TV 30% CPU HELL YEA! |
| [08:09:37] | mistone: | FX 5500 owns :D |
| [08:10:23] | tcpsyn: | contrats |
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| [08:19:58] | mistone: | hell ye |
| [08:20:13] | mistone: | a |
| [08:20:13] | mistone: | shit is off the hook lol |
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| [08:27:48] | mistone: | 720p is good to bad I couldn't get it to 1080i |
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| [09:00:21] | hashbang: | heya |
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| [09:20:50] | hashbang: | has anyone (esp. in the UK) experienced problems with mythbackend doing lots of disk IO and the load average rocketing up? Fixed by stopping & restarting mythbackend |
| [09:21:09] | hashbang: | I'm using Hauppauge Nova-T cards and mythtv 0.19 |
| [09:21:31] | hashbang: | (this is a recent development; last few weeks or so) |
| [09:22:39] | juski: | what's in the logs? |
| [09:22:58] | juski: | do you use EIT? |
| [09:23:06] | hashbang: | juski: yes to EIT for some channels |
| [09:23:34] | juski: | might be hangover from the early eit caching that was put in |
| [09:23:52] | juski: | morning, btw :) |
| [09:23:53] | hashbang: | I wonder if it's something that's changed in UK DVB streams recently |
| [09:23:57] | hashbang: | juski: morning, also! :-) |
| [09:24:44] | juski: | oh yeah – recently they've started to change some stuff... a new datatype IIRC – one that allows series links & the like |
| [09:25:30] | hashbang: | ooh, nice... |
| [09:25:33] | juski: | saying that, those changes won't be in 0.20-fixes either so other folks should be seeing it if it's that |
| [09:25:49] | hashbang: | 2006-12–21 22:14:03.953 DVB#1 ERROR – Reading Section. |
| [09:25:49] | hashbang: | (75) Value too large for defined data type |
| [09:25:49] | hashbang: | 2006-12–21 22:15:47.035 DevRdB(1) Error: Driver buffers overflowed |
| [09:25:56] | hashbang: | lots of that last one |
| [09:26:04] | hashbang: | 2006-12–21 22:26:04.979 TFW, Error: Write() — IOBOUND begin cnt(9400) free(1057503) |
| [09:26:04] | hashbang: | 2006-12–21 22:26:15.426 TFW, Error: Write() — IOBOUND end |
| [09:26:07] | juski: | sounds like a likely suspect |
| [09:26:07] | hashbang: | some of those |
| [09:26:20] | hashbang: | 2006-12–21 22:32:23.863 Started recording: Serendipity: channel 1501 on cardid 1, sourceid 1 |
| [09:26:20] | hashbang: | 2006-12–21 22:32:36.853 DVB#0 DVB SI Table Parser Started |
| [09:26:21] | hashbang: | 2006-12–21 22:33:30.020 DevRdB(0) Error: Driver buffers overflowed |
| [09:26:33] | hashbang: | (laugh at my sucky taste in films) |
| [09:27:08] | juski: | I dunno if it was in 0.19, but you could try altering the recording profile to chuck away anything that isn't tv |
| [09:27:37] | hashbang: | juski: i.e. throw away EIT and other such metadata? |
| [09:28:31] | juski: | yeah but from the recordings. it won't stop eit AFAIK |
| [09:29:17] | hashbang: | OK, I might look into that |
| [09:29:34] | hashbang: | I've just been tweaking my channels to add five life/us, so I'll do one thing at a time. |
| [09:32:43] | hashbang: | juski: thanks for the insight; I've gotta scoot for now, but I'll try and get back on if/when it happens again |
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| [09:38:05] | [shodan]: | can I use a UDP/RTP broadcast network stream as a source for mythtv ? |
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| [09:40:10] | [shodan]: | I have a computer with a FTA DVB card, it's running windows with MyTheatre which has an option to do broadcast remote viewing, right now some video is playing , on any other computer I can launch videolan client and do "open network stream" then type "udp://@" and I get video |
| [09:40:17] | [shodan]: | could mythtv use video like that ? |
| [09:44:41] | juski: | maybe. I just don't know |
| [09:44:59] | juski: | you'd be better off putting the DVB card into the myth backend though |
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| [09:52:58] | juski: | I need to go pick up a part for my car... kerching! |
| [09:53:20] | [shodan]: | yeah but that's probably a big pain compared to getting it off the network |
| [09:53:32] | [shodan]: | maybe I can find some program to do virtual V4l |
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| [11:00:49] | Dagmar: | Welcome back, unwashed masses. |
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| [11:03:22] | tcpsyn: | I washed. |
| [11:03:25] | tcpsyn: | actually.. thats a lie. |
| [11:03:31] | tcpsyn: | But I will, I promise. |
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| [11:15:46] | rsdvd: | Hello All – can anyone tell me what size the channel icons should be? I have almost completed my Mythtv setup intime for christmas, I just need to create channel icons for all my channels now |
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| [11:21:26] | Dagmar: | actually you don't have to |
| [11:21:50] | Dagmar: | If you dig around the wiki and docs a bit you'll find the magic script that will download them and then push them all into the database for you. |
| [11:22:10] | Dagmar: | Then, if you like, you can basically snatch 'em all up and redraw them (yes, I agree, they're mostly hideous) to suit your tastes. |
| [11:22:26] | rsdvd: | will it find ALL icons? I have UK SKy Digital and Freeview ? |
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| [11:22:45] | Dagmar: | It'll get all the icons that your listing service has. |
| [11:22:58] | Dagmar: | ...and if anything, it's not just as simple as creating the icons to get Myth to use them. |
| [11:23:13] | Dagmar: | It's MUCH easier to get Myth to use the icons you make if you use the script to feed them to the db |
| [11:23:13] | rsdvd: | ok – any idea of the scripts name? |
| [11:23:18] | Dagmar: | It's documented. |
| [11:23:24] | rsdvd: | ok – I will RTFM |
| [11:25:14] | [shodan]: | can I use mythtv with BEV using a software DVB PCI card and a USB CI reader and my original BEV smartcard ? |
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| [11:29:12] | [shodan]: | (a way to be legit and stable and everything) |
| [11:30:19] | rsdvd: | Dagmar : the only icon script I can find mention od in the docs is 'mkiconmap.pl' but this appears to only work for DataDirect (which we don't use in the UK).....am I looking in the wrong place? |
| [11:31:05] | Dagmar: | Hang *onto* that. You can use it to find out how to push the icons into the db |
| [11:31:42] | Dagmar: | I guess it will only be useful for the networks that aren't "just" in the UK, but it should speed things up |
| [11:37:06] | rsdvd: | ok......I doubt we have many channels that are the same as the US......but thanks for the advice. |
| [11:40:59] | juski: | right that's my car's heater blower fixed :) |
| [11:41:24] | juski: | hey rsdvd.. LTNS ! |
| [11:41:45] | juski: | rsdvd I made a UK icon grabber script a wee while back |
| [11:41:58] | rsdvd: | Hi Juski – how are you? |
| [11:42:08] | juski: | it's easier to use the script than the iconmap stuff I think |
| [11:42:18] | juski: | am very well ta, going up in the world ;) |
| [11:42:28] | rsdvd: | goin up in the world? |
| [11:42:50] | juski: | yeah I have a 'voice' now :) |
| [11:42:56] | rsdvd: | lol |
| [11:42:59] | rsdvd: | so you do |
| [11:43:23] | rsdvd: | does that mean I have to call you sir now? |
| [11:43:27] | juski: | hahaha no |
| [11:43:38] | juski: | fyi http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/11597 might be useful to you |
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| [11:44:34] | juski: | how's the dvd business going? |
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| [11:45:16] | rsdvd: | thanks for the link.......the business has been manic......just started to quiet down now for christmas....then it will be mad again in January |
| [11:45:30] | rsdvd: | not had much time to work on my Myth box :-( |
| [11:45:53] | juski: | since we last spoke a few of us in the UK have been out & about exhibiting mythtv :) |
| [11:46:37] | rsdvd: | have you? I must have missed that....would have been interesting – where were you exhibiting? |
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| [11:47:09] | juski: | Lugradio Live in July & LinuxWorld Expo in October. wolverhampton & London respectively |
| [11:47:37] | rsdvd: | cool – was it well received? |
| [11:48:07] | juski: | yeah, apart from a grilling I got from the LRL guys in their radio interview but it was all in good spirit ;) |
| [11:48:08] | rsdvd: | BTW – I love your new theme – it is now my default (replacing your last theme) |
| [11:48:18] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [11:48:25] | juski: | careful it doesn't eat all your RAM ;) |
| [11:48:35] | juski: | it's rather large |
| [11:48:57] | rsdvd: | lol.....It has – but the frontend deos nothing but Mythfrontend so it can cope. |
| [11:49:15] | juski: | it might end up in the official themes pack yet, but the size it is now it'd be at the expense of others |
| [11:49:45] | juski: | I need to try & see if jpeg2000 will work for the images |
| [11:50:22] | rsdvd: | if you could get the images 'smaller' then I think it would definatly be the best all-round theme |
| [11:50:53] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [11:51:38] | juski: | just gonna make a batch job in GIMP to see if it'll work |
| [11:51:54] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [11:52:12] | juski: | if it works with jpeg2000 I'll save a TON of space |
| [11:52:21] | juski: | tcpsyn: blootube-wide (www.juski.co.uk) |
| [11:52:41] | rsdvd: | juski : are you planning any more themes? |
| [11:52:58] | juski: | a 4:3 version of blootube-wide in the new year, and then no plans |
| [11:53:12] | juski: | I have other projects |
| [11:53:20] | rsdvd: | Myth ones? |
| [11:53:53] | tcpsyn: | whoah, thats slick man. |
| [11:53:55] | juski: | yeah |
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| [11:54:31] | juski: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/music.png is the new mythmusic screen |
| [11:54:35] | tcpsyn: | the a-z of sexual practice bro? |
| [11:55:02] | juski: | hahahaha I wondered how long it'd be before someone mentioned that |
| [11:55:53] | juski: | that's a joke. it comes from when I did a mythtv demo video & didn't realise all the adult channel listings were there. when scrolling through the program finder it paused at 'anal teens' |
| [11:56:04] | Dagmar: | lol |
| [11:56:08] | juski: | I didn't even notice til someone here pointed it out |
| [11:56:12] | tcpsyn: | damn it looks slick. |
| [11:56:24] | juski: | I aim to please (me) |
| [11:56:30] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [11:56:39] | Dagmar: | Yeah, I used to have `fortune -o` in my root ~/.profile, up until I was doing a lecture before a LUG on a 15 foot projection screen. |
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| [11:57:01] | Dagmar: | That sort of thing is so much fun. |
| [11:57:27] | Dagmar: | At least you've got no blatantly pirated MP3's in the new screenshot |
| [11:57:37] | juski: | yeah one of the neighbours came round to look at a framegrab from my cctv. I couldn't remember where I left it & he accidentally saw some porn |
| [11:57:54] | juski: | that was embarrasing |
| [11:58:07] | rsdvd: | lol |
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| [11:59:12] | Dagmar: | Your wife is either a saint or *really* kinky |
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| [11:59:26] | ** juski whistles ** | |
| [11:59:39] | tcpsyn: | hah |
| [11:59:48] | Dagmar: | I mean, most people don't keep their porno in a menu driven, easy to use, graphical interface. |
| [12:00:51] | tcpsyn: | pr0n goes in the dotfiles |
| [12:02:05] | rsdvd: | lol....you all have thought too much about this :-) |
| [12:06:00] | Dagmar: | We're male. |
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| [12:06:18] | Dagmar: | Unless you just *never* have a significant other around, you've had to think about where to stash yer goodies. |
| [12:06:41] | Dagmar: | ...and some people are probably just writing in their will "burn my computer, for god's sake" |
| [12:07:24] | juski: | heh |
| [12:07:27] | at0m|c: | the gf likes my ~/.pr0n just like me :> |
| [12:07:45] | juski: | well, gimp may not be able to save files as jpeg2000, but some good has come of the job |
| [12:08:07] | juski: | some of the watermarks are projectgrayhem-wide's |
| [12:08:09] | juski: | oops |
| [12:08:13] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [12:08:31] | juski: | amazed nobody's noticed yet |
| [12:09:00] | juski: | nobody using my theme must also use mythflix, mythfm or mythnews |
| [12:09:19] | juski: | I'll fix those later |
| [12:09:44] | juski: | I have the watermarks, just not saved em or copied em across |
| [12:10:08] | juski: | so – if GIMP doesn't support jpeg2000, I very much doubt mythtv will |
| [12:10:42] | juski: | jpeg is gonna need a workaround if I'm to use it |
| [12:11:01] | GlemSom: | Anyone else but me having problems using MythWeather and PVR-350 TV-OUT? Everything else in mythtv workes fine with my PVR-350 TV-OUT – when when running mythweather the x server craches |
| [12:11:23] | juski: | the atrophy begins :-| |
| [12:14:30] | rsdvd: | juski : how do I downlaod that icon script without downloading the whole svn version? |
| [12:15:14] | juski: | hmmm. |
| [12:15:35] | rsdvd: | all I want is the perl script and the icon list |
| [12:16:03] | WeberGlinux: | I'm getting ready for my firsrt attempt of installing myth tv! :-D |
| [12:16:07] | juski: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . p;format=txt |
| [12:16:26] | rsdvd: | arh....shoudl ahev through o fthat :-) |
| [12:16:34] | juski: | and http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . p;format=txt |
| [12:16:43] | juski: | save as... bingo ;) |
| [12:20:41] | juski: | haha you'd never guess but the png files take up the same space as a crap looking jpeg |
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| [12:21:29] | rsdvd: | you will have to use crappy images ;-) |
| [12:21:47] | juski: | never! |
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| [12:22:07] | rsdvd: | lol |
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| [12:22:25] | rsdvd: | is the size really that big a problem? |
| [12:23:00] | juski: | not for me it ain't |
| [12:23:13] | juski: | well actually it is, to upload the beast |
| [12:23:16] | rsdvd: | lol.....well there is your answer |
| [12:24:07] | rsdvd: | if people find it too bloated...let them resize them. How about building a lower quality version as well.....looks less cool but uses less memory |
| [12:24:31] | juski: | yeah there's a 'lite' version on the agena |
| [12:24:38] | juski: | agenda even |
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| [12:24:55] | juski: | planning to use the same size of watermarks as grayhem-wide |
| [12:25:06] | juski: | just blootube stylee |
| [12:25:27] | rsdvd: | cool |
| [12:27:18] | juski: | it'll end up about the same size & memory footprint as pg-wide :) |
| [12:27:46] | juski: | all that'll be different is the watermarks, so easy to maintain (thank f...) |
| [12:28:06] | rsdvd: | lol |
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| [12:33:03] | eitanois: | juski |
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| [12:33:51] | dverzolla: | juski |
| [12:33:54] | dverzolla: | are you here? |
| [12:34:31] | juski: | yep |
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| [12:45:20] | juski: | and? |
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| [12:45:42] | quicksilver: | he wanted to check you were here so it was safe to nick your car |
| [12:45:57] | rsdvd: | lol.....I was just typing the smae joke |
| [12:48:35] | dverzolla: | dah |
| [12:48:55] | dverzolla: | juski: you use PVR-150 with Composite Input? |
| [12:50:21] | juski: | nope. svideo |
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| [13:14:25] | kslater: | any MythTV goodies coming from Santa for any good little Mythboy or Mythgirl? |
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| [13:17:03] | juski: | no, all the users are too whiny |
| [13:17:56] | Paladine: | sods bloody law |
| [13:18:04] | juski: | I heard that Santa will be ignoring everybody but the project contributors again :-P |
| [13:18:05] | Paladine: | my cool new mythtv toy arrived today |
| [13:18:18] | juski: | and it's broken? |
| [13:18:26] | Paladine: | now bearing in mind I am the type of man who has every single cable you can possibly imagine for domestic technical use |
| [13:18:30] | kslater: | not all of the users are too whiny, just the ones who whine |
| [13:18:42] | Paladine: | yet I am unable to find a single one of multiple coaxial cables I have somewhere in the house |
| [13:18:53] | Paladine: | to test my new toy with |
| [13:18:56] | juski: | kslater: they make up for the rest |
| [13:19:01] | kslater: | nk |
| [13:19:15] | juski: | Paladine: off to Maplins you go ;) |
| [13:19:28] | Paladine: | sod that the n4arest maplins is in Preston |
| [13:19:30] | juski: | actually B&Q sell that kind of thing |
| [13:19:42] | Paladine: | I will grab one from the market |
| [13:19:54] | Paladine: | juski, its my USB>RF controller :) |
| [13:19:58] | kslater: | you lucky chaps in the UK still have electronics stores you can walk into and buy components? |
| [13:20:03] | Paladine: | it arrived and has a purdy red light on it |
| [13:20:11] | juski: | not quite, no kslater |
| [13:20:37] | juski: | we can walk in, whether they have what we want in stock (or even know what it is) is something else |
| [13:20:40] | kslater: | I suppose in the US we do as well, but only in a few select cities |
| [13:21:11] | Paladine: | yeah but in the US it doesn't cost your 50 bucks for a 1000 ohm resistor ;) |
| [13:21:42] | juski: | I get my components through work, what I need of them |
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| [13:22:30] | juski: | actually since the users of my theme haven't been complaining much lately I'll release a new tarball today :) |
| [13:23:00] | Paladine: | man I have so much to do after this joint |
| [13:23:13] | Paladine: | I have to renew the loan on the camcorder up at uni |
| [13:23:21] | Paladine: | I have to go into town and do some shopping for themissus |
| [13:23:30] | juski: | I have to buy a pollen filter (not that I need it yet) and 2 xmas cards |
| [13:23:36] | Paladine: | I have to buy a coxial cable and install all the software for this new toy |
| [13:23:41] | Paladine: | and lots of other things |
| [13:23:57] | Paladine: | pollen filter as in for a grinder? |
| [13:24:10] | kslater: | Paladine – what is this new toy? |
| [13:24:12] | juski: | then later I need to get my spare box up & running as a slave backend. I've run out of tuners for the christmas lineup |
| [13:24:23] | juski: | pollen filter is for my car |
| [13:24:33] | Paladine: | oh, sorry I was thinking erb hehehe |
| [13:24:35] | juski: | I fixed the heater blower earlier |
| [13:24:37] | Paladine: | just for a change ;) |
| [13:25:27] | Paladine: | kslater, it is a special controller device that sends IR signals over USB to an RF port onmy set top box, for controlling the set top box from my machine |
| [13:25:28] | juski: | made a better ground for my autochanger too and I might even pop to the dreaded Maplins to buy some bits to make a line input adapter for the car stereo |
| [13:25:52] | kslater: | cool stuff |
| [13:26:06] | kslater: | control the stb thru walls and floors |
| [13:26:24] | Paladine: | once I have it setup, I can use mythtv to automatically schedule recordings |
| [13:26:43] | Paladine: | as opposed to having to manually schedule both mythtv and my stb for every single thing I want to record |
| [13:27:35] | juski: | right now though I'm gonna grab some coffee & toast |
| [13:27:58] | Paladine: | already have the coffee and in the process of rolling first joint of the day |
| [13:28:02] | kslater: | I need to help my brother get his Mythbox changing channels over the Christmas break – he's had it running for a few months but no sat box channel changing yet. |
| [13:29:11] | Paladine: | kslater, you any good with electronics? |
| [13:29:26] | kslater: | I'm a hack at best, why? |
| [13:29:31] | Paladine: | if so, check this out http://www.paladine.org.uk/ir_blaster.jpg |
| [13:29:45] | Paladine: | it is a very simplified circuit diagram for making a serial infra red blaster |
| [13:29:50] | Paladine: | for controlling STBs |
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| [13:30:17] | kslater: | very cool |
| [13:30:31] | Paladine: | it was designed to make it easy for even non electronics people to be able to buiold a simple serial IR blaster |
| [13:30:45] | Paladine: | will cost you about 3 bucks for the parts |
| [13:30:54] | kslater: | we should be able to change the channels on his DirecTV rx using a serial cable setup just like I use on mine, but he's got some other problems getting in the way I guess |
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| [13:31:25] | kslater: | thanks for that schematic though, that's a definite keeper |
| [13:31:52] | Paladine: | np, I didn't draw it, but I do try and pass it on to as many people as possible |
| [13:32:58] | Paladine: | hehehe it is funny at my house at the moment |
| [13:33:03] | Paladine: | missus has lost her voice |
| [13:33:21] | Paladine: | so I keep saying to our son, I will try and findhis real mommy again as soon as I can ;) |
| [13:34:22] | Paladine: | best christmas present a man can ask for |
| [13:34:26] | Paladine: | his missuslosing her voice |
| [13:37:42] | Zider: | why? |
| [13:38:42] | Paladine: | ? |
| [13:38:51] | Paladine: | brbhave to watch my son a sec |
| [13:38:56] | Zider: | why would that be a good christmas present? |
| [13:39:06] | juski: | would be a good present any time of the year |
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| [13:40:22] | juski: | soap opera-watching, persistently nagging us to do stuff, but we love them really ;) |
| [13:40:41] | ** kslater thinks juski's been married more than 15 years.. ** | |
| [13:41:02] | Zider: | you must have some real bad luck in finding yerself a woman then :P |
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| [13:42:07] | juski: | find a woman who doesn't try to change a man, and stay together? heh sounds impossible |
| [13:42:40] | Zider: | worked fine with the ones I had.. (except the staying together part) |
| [13:42:47] | juski: | see? |
| [13:43:19] | Zider: | :P |
| [13:43:24] | juski: | how many times have you been married anyway? if you don't mind me asking |
| [13:44:03] | Zider: | I'm not a christian |
| [13:44:24] | juski: | ahhh |
| [13:44:38] | Zider: | or any other religion for that matter |
| [13:45:26] | stevenh: | does that mean you don't get married? |
| [13:45:41] | Zider: | yes? |
| [13:45:42] | juski: | I dunno why but I suddenly started thinking about polygamy. I think I know why it's not a big thing in the UK – we get enough earache from one ;) |
| [13:45:55] | stevenh: | oh that is a nice schematic |
| [13:46:00] | juski: | my marriage had nothing to do with religion |
| [13:46:07] | Zider: | marriage is pointless imo |
| [13:46:17] | Zider: | it's done in a church, go figure |
| [13:46:23] | juski: | mine wasn't |
| [13:46:43] | juski: | nor was there a religious figurehead doing the ceremony |
| [13:46:57] | Paladine: | actually the majority of marriages in the UK don't take place in a church |
| [13:46:58] | Zider: | it is originally |
| [13:47:13] | juski: | we figured it'd have been hypocritical to get married in church, seen as we never go |
| [13:47:17] | Zider: | it's still tainted by christianity imo |
| [13:47:19] | Paladine: | most marriages in the UK happen at the registrar's office |
| [13:47:23] | stevenh: | really? do they get married in a hall or some such? |
| [13:47:34] | juski: | speaking of being nagged... phone |
| [13:47:56] | Zider: | and it's just a way to put a collar on each other, which shouldn't be needed in a working relationship |
| [13:48:34] | kslater: | spoken like someone that's not committed to anyone for long |
| [13:48:38] | ** juski laughs ** | |
| [13:48:56] | juski: | some people are into collars & stuff |
| [13:48:59] | Zider: | kslater: I'm always committed, but I don't need a piece of paper to do that |
| [13:49:03] | stevenh: | that is true |
| [13:49:30] | Zider: | I don't even do one-nights.. it's relationship or nothing.. |
| [13:49:41] | juski: | Zider: that's the important thing above all else |
| [13:49:47] | kslater: | does the relationship produce children? |
| [13:49:54] | Zider: | kslater: hopefully not |
| [13:49:59] | Zider: | altho my last one did.. |
| [13:50:01] | kslater: | or is that left to those of us with papers? :-) |
| [13:50:15] | Dagmar: | More pussy for me, then. |
| [13:50:16] | Dagmar: | w00t! |
| [13:50:36] | Zider: | t00t |
| [13:50:37] | juski: | zomg! |
| [13:51:23] | Paladine: | lol |
| [13:52:06] | Zider: | Dagmar: as long as I can have the one girl I like, you can have the rest.. |
| [13:52:44] | Zider: | and since I'll probably not meet anyone in the near future, go right ahead |
| [13:53:24] | Dagmar: | I'll probably have done her, too. |
| [13:53:43] | Paladine: | Computer: main | Distro: Ubuntu 6.06 "dapper" | Processor: 2.21Ghz | Model: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ | Memory: 2027MB Free: 1543MB [▀▀▀â–&euro ;▀▀▀â–&euro ;▀▀▀â–&euro ;▀▀] | Diskspace: 459.00GB Free: 321.00GB | Video: nVidia NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] X2 @ 2560x1024 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 52.23MB Up: 9.40MB |
| [13:53:44] | Paladine: | Sensors: CPU Temp: +30°C Case Temp: +34°C |
| [13:54:01] | Paladine: | man this CPU is performing well heat wise considering the HS/Fan I am using is not rated for it |
| [13:54:10] | Zider: | Paladine: wow, your vPenis must be huge |
| [13:54:12] | Zider: | ;P |
| [13:54:49] | Paladine: | no, just my overdraft |
| [13:55:09] | Dagmar: | I would submit that perhaps your monitoring tools are crap. |
| [13:55:25] | Paladine: | nothing wrong with my monitoring tools thanks |
| [13:55:35] | Dagmar: | Yes, very obviously there are. |
| [13:55:48] | Paladine: | no very obviously they are not |
| [13:55:50] | Dagmar: | Is it 93 degrees F in your room? It is in your case. |
| [13:55:58] | Paladine: | not all of us run our CPUs hot enough to cook the christmas turkey on |
| [13:56:09] | Dagmar: | ...and your CPU appears to be running at a mere 86 degrees F. |
| [13:56:09] | Paladine: | my side panels are off and the heating is on |
| [13:56:20] | Paladine: | so yes of course my case will be hotter |
| [13:57:02] | Paladine: | also your cpu should -always- be cooler than your cases ambiant temp |
| [13:57:07] | Dagmar: | Dude, unless it's a notebook, 86F means the machine was turned off about 10 minutes ago. |
| [13:57:16] | Paladine: | otherwise what is the point of pulling the heat off itin the first place |
| [13:57:35] | BULLE: | Paladine: not true |
| [13:57:45] | Paladine: | dagmar, just because you crap overheats, doesn't mean everyone elses does :p |
| [13:57:56] | Dagmar: | That thing should be running a bit closer to 100F and the CPU will nearly *always* be warmer than the ambient case temp. |
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| [13:58:04] | BULLE: | Paladine: if cpu would be cooler then ambient case temp, heat would flow from the case, to the cpu |
| [13:58:15] | Dagmar: | Paladine: You can take your snarky comments and shove them. I've had my hands in *thousands* of PCs. |
| [13:58:19] | Paladine: | Bulle, actually yes it is true, it is simple physics, you take hheat from a component and vent it to the environment, the environment becomes warmer, the component becomes cooler |
| [13:58:30] | Dagmar: | Your monitoring tools are misreporting the temperatures. |
| [13:58:38] | Paladine: | that is the whole point of colling technology |
| [13:59:00] | Paladine: | Dagmar, oh so you are the only person who has had their hands on thousands of pc's now eh? |
| [13:59:28] | BULLE: | Paladine: yes, you take heat from the cpu, and went it to the enviroment, but heat travels from hot -> cold |
| [13:59:35] | Dagmar: | Yeah, well, simple knowledge of thermodynamics should be telling you in a not-so-subtle way that you dont get the CPU *lower* than the ambient temperature with a fan and heatsink, chunky. |
| [13:59:45] | BULLE: | Dagmar: indeed |
| [13:59:53] | BULLE: | Dagmar: that was my point |
| [13:59:58] | Dagmar: | The *best* you can do with an HSF is for the two to match. The source of the heat will never be lower. |
| [14:00:18] | Paladine: | Dagmar, I disagree, but I am not going to sit here argiung with some self righteous prick :) so go beat yourself up over it, cos I could give a flying fuck :) |
| [14:00:31] | Dagmar: | Paladine: Enjoy your ignorance, then. |
| [14:00:44] | quicksilver: | Paladine: disagreeing with the laws of thermodynamics is unlikely to bother them much |
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| [14:00:53] | BULLE: | Paladine: he is not a self righteous prick, he is just simply trying to tell you that your thermal monitoring is way off |
| [14:00:54] | quicksilver: | Paladine: but no heatsink can make your CPU cooler than the air around it |
| [14:00:55] | Bernardo: | hi |
| [14:00:58] | Dagmar: | ...and don't spam channels with your damn machine stats unless you are ready to deal with being chided about it. |
| [14:00:59] | BULLE: | quicksilver: hehe |
| [14:01:07] | Dagmar: | Damn newb |
| [14:01:15] | Paladine: | dagmar, go fuck yourself |
| [14:01:23] | Paladine: | who the hell do you think you are? |
| [14:01:28] | Zider: | he's Dagmar |
| [14:01:30] | Zider: | duh |
| [14:01:33] | Zider: | ;) |
| [14:01:37] | Dagmar: | As far as you're concerned, I'm the old man on the hill that knows freaking everything. |
| [14:01:50] | Zider: | Dagmar: the Oracle? |
| [14:01:52] | Zider: | ;) |
| [14:01:58] | Zider: | I'm Neo btw |
| [14:01:59] | Zider: | :D |
| [14:02:08] | Paladine: | dagmar, as far as I am on concerned you are a prick who thinks he knows everything but actually knows very little |
| [14:02:11] | Dagmar: | Zider: I'm not quite that gnomic usually. |
| [14:02:17] | Zider: | Dagmar: haha |
| [14:02:25] | Dagmar: | Paladine: STFU before you wind up on bash.org or something. |
| [14:02:41] | Zider: | Paladine: how ironic, I was just thinking that about you ;) |
| [14:02:42] | Paladine: | so anyway, I am not interestined in getting into a flame fest so if you have nothing more interesting to say, I will be off to do some xmas shopping |
| [14:03:01] | Dagmar: | You're the one who started being a dick about it |
| [14:03:05] | quicksilver: | Paladine: dagmar can be abrasive but he was trying to point out an important flaw in your monitoring tools |
| [14:03:14] | quicksilver: | Paladine: I don't think he really deserves that invective |
| [14:03:18] | Dagmar: | Why you'd want to defend someone else's badly functioning code, I hav eno idea. |
| [14:04:02] | Dagmar: | If you're running a substandard heatsink, and assuming those temperature figures are correct, you're looking to blow that CPU out |
| [14:08:32] | ** Bernardo keeps hidden behind a rock while there's still smoke ** | |
| [14:09:50] | Dagmar: | I just hate to see someone blow out a $180 processor |
| [14:10:37] | Bernardo: | the only way I know for a cpu to be cooler than the environment is to put a peltier between it and the heatsink |
| [14:10:51] | Bernardo: | but then you might start having condensation problems |
| [14:10:55] | Dagmar: | Bernardo: That pretty much is the only way |
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| [14:11:07] | Dagmar: | Meh, most of the peltier units I've seen were pretty weak |
| [14:11:34] | Dagmar: | Unless they were being run with the CPU unpowered, they just don't move quite that much heat to cause condensation |
| [14:11:47] | Bernardo: | I've seen a couple decent ones, enough to start showing frost |
| [14:12:34] | Bernardo: | anyway, back to choosing dvb-c cards... Can't decide between a technotrend 2300 and a knc |
| [14:13:18] | Zider: | liquid nitrogen cooling should keep the cpu cooler than the environment ;) |
| [14:13:35] | Bernardo: | didn't manage to win the ones I wanted in ebay... :( |
| [14:13:59] | Bernardo: | Zider: might be a liitle difficult to handle... |
| [14:14:20] | Zider: | Bernardo: so am I. :P |
| [14:14:44] | Dagmar: | it would look *really* cool when it fails tho'. :) |
| [14:14:50] | Zider: | ;D |
| [14:14:54] | Zider: | T2-computer |
| [14:15:23] | Dagmar: | I was trying to do a dry ice case mod, but I couldn't find any reasonable way to deal with dry ice causing condensation |
| [14:15:45] | Dagmar: | For the record, it was just for looks, not for coolin. |
| [14:15:58] | Dagmar: | ...but water building up anywhere in the case is a not-good thing. ;/ |
| [14:16:17] | quicksilver: | that's the key disadvantage of ever being cooler than the atmosphere |
| [14:16:29] | quicksilver: | it plagues fridges, freezers and cheap air-con units everywhere |
| [14:16:32] | Dagmar: | Well, I was hoping to spread out the "damage" with some older heatsinks I had spare |
| [14:16:35] | quicksilver: | and indeed the insides of car windows :) |
| [14:16:58] | Dagmar: | The word for the day became "bzzt." |
| [14:18:19] | Dagmar: | I think maybe a container made of styrofoam *might* work better than a small metal box with heatsinks strapped to it |
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| [14:22:47] | Bernardo: | Zider: so are you what, difficult to handle? |
| [14:22:50] | Bernardo: | Zider: so are you what, difficult to handle? |
| [14:28:03] | juski: | oo I like the new mythfm watermark.. pity nobody's ever gonna see it in mythtv 0.20 :) |
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| [14:32:54] | Zider: | Bernardo|away: yes ;) |
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| [15:06:13] | frink_: | hey all |
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| [15:12:10] | juski: | cesman: you around? |
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| [15:21:01] | juski: | for any uk users interested there's a petition for HDTV on free to air terrestrial TV here: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/openhdtv/ |
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| [15:22:02] | jams: | juski, give me an address to sign up with |
| [15:23:16] | juski: | hmmm thinking of a good address |
| [15:23:49] | juski: | 11 downing st., london wouldn't be a good choice ;) |
| [15:28:38] | frink_: | think monopoly board |
| [15:28:46] | frink_: | ;-) |
| [15:28:50] | frink_: | Anybody know what this is: |
| [15:28:52] | frink_: | DWARF2 unwinder stuck |
| [15:29:07] | frink_: | I keep getting kernel dumps of it and then the box hangs |
| [15:30:22] | jams: | if I lived there I could probably do more then sign the petition. |
| [15:30:43] | frink_: | You could spend a few million on a public consultation... |
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| [15:46:27] | [Elvis]: | hello people |
| [15:46:34] | [Elvis]: | I have a hardware related question :P |
| [15:47:15] | [Elvis]: | is it possible to split 1 s-video out signal to 2 tv's |
| [15:47:19] | [Elvis]: | without losing quality? |
| [15:47:38] | seth|laptop: | for simultaneous playback |
| [15:47:53] | seth|laptop: | you would need an amp |
| [15:48:58] | [Elvis]: | it doesn't have to be simultanious |
| [15:49:03] | [Elvis]: | just don't wanna have to switch cables |
| [15:50:30] | seth|laptop: | then you should be fine, I am doing it now, between xbox, and mythbox, with a standard splitter |
| [15:52:01] | seth|laptop: | but my splitter has an a/b switch, so it is isolated |
| [15:52:20] | seth|laptop: | 2 inputs, 4 oiutputs |
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| [15:58:48] | iamlindoro: | Hi all-- I am attempting to run myth.rebuilddatabase.pl but get a message about "Can't locate Time/Format.pm in @INC"... I presume I am missing a required perl library.. can anyone tell me which one? |
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| [16:02:01] | voidmage: | I'm having trouble with lirc. When I run irw it goes straight back to the console |
| [16:02:05] | voidmage: | lircd's logs |
| [16:02:05] | voidmage: | lircd-0.8.0[23945]: lircd(userspace) ready |
| [16:02:05] | voidmage: | lircd-0.8.0[23945]: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| [16:02:06] | voidmage: | lircd-0.8.0[23945]: could not open /dev/lirc0 |
| [16:02:06] | voidmage: | lircd-0.8.0[23945]: default_init(): No such device |
| [16:02:06] | voidmage: | lircd-0.8.0[23945]: caught signal |
| [16:02:09] | voidmage: | Terminated |
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| [16:02:50] | voidmage: | /dev/lirc is chmod 666 and /dev/lirc0 (symlink to /dev/lirc) is 777 |
| [16:03:10] | voidmage: | I'm using lirc_mceusb2 |
| [16:05:19] | janneg: | jams: which lighttpd version do you use? lighttpd 1.4.11 has empty PATH_INFO after rewriting. |
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| [16:13:38] | cesman: | juski: you rang |
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| [16:21:27] | sdlnxgk: | Time to go play some World of Warcraft before the g/f gets here.... Have a great day everyone !!! |
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| [16:31:02] | jams: | janneg 1.4.12 |
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| [16:43:49] | janneg: | jams: I found it: "broken-scriptfilename" => "enable" |
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| [16:48:32] | Paladine: | hmmm this controller could prove a pain in the ass to setup |
| [16:48:44] | Paladine: | looks like I will have to manually add every single sky channel |
| [16:48:57] | kslater: | electronics guys – when a diode fails does it usually allow current to flow in both directions or not at all? |
| [16:49:15] | ** kslater is trying to get a simple JP1 cable working ** | |
| [16:49:57] | scopeuk: | kslater id guess at nothing |
| [16:50:06] | scopeuk: | althoguh its along tiem since i last played with diodes |
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| [16:51:50] | seth|laptop: | i beleive for a diode to fail, it would "open", therefore you should get nothing |
| [16:55:30] | kslater: | I'll have to check it again when I get home and have a meter |
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| [16:58:52] | Captainseabag: | hi everyone |
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| [17:01:27] | ** kslater wants one remote to rule them all, one remote to find, one remote to control them all and in the darkness bind them ** | |
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| [17:02:21] | seth|laptop: | kslater: Harmony 880 |
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| [17:02:41] | kslater: | I have a perfectly good one4all cinema7 |
| [17:03:02] | kslater: | all I need to do is get the jp1 cable working and download stuff |
| [17:03:19] | kslater: | that's the best sort of present of all – using something you already have to do something new |
| [17:05:22] | seth|laptop: | now jp1 that is on your motherboard? |
| [17:06:31] | kslater: | no it's an interface on the remote itself – allows you to reprogram it with new devices not part of the original programming |
| [17:06:38] | seth|laptop: | ah |
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| [17:15:13] | Captainseabag: | hey i've got a question about MythTv, anyone have a minute? |
| [17:15:38] | kslater: | it's the disease we all share – ask the question |
| [17:15:58] | xris: | Captainseabag: that question wasn't about mythtv |
| [17:16:23] | opello: | i don't suppose with 0.20 there's a way to cancel a recording while it's recording? |
| [17:16:33] | xris: | opello: delete the file |
| [17:16:46] | kslater: | uh, hit the delete key on the recording? |
| [17:17:02] | opello: | oh, i mena to say from mythweb |
| [17:17:04] | opello: | meant* |
| [17:17:13] | opello: | if i was sitting there it wouldn't be a problem :) |
| [17:17:19] | xris: | opello: same answer |
| [17:17:40] | xris: | oh, wait, I removed delete if it was in-progress, didn't I.. there's only "delete and rerecord |
| [17:17:42] | Captainseabag: | hey slater, i'm considering buying an Allwell box for the living room mythtv setup. two of their boxes include tuners: Philips SAA7113 and Philips SAA7114H |
| [17:17:45] | opello: | like rm the file? |
| [17:17:46] | Captainseabag: | haha xris |
| [17:17:48] | opello: | xris: yeah |
| [17:18:01] | opello: | can i just build a link? |
| [17:18:08] | opello: | and it'll just work(tm)? |
| [17:18:12] | xris: | opello: yeah. |
| [17:18:15] | opello: | cool |
| [17:18:25] | xris: | and feel free to submit a bug report so I don't forget to put it back into .21 |
| [17:18:57] | opello: | heh it's never been there, figured it wasn't supposed to be or something |
| [17:19:16] | opello: | (never knew why, works fine, heh) |
| [17:19:20] | kslater: | Captainseabag – not familiar with those tuners |
| [17:19:29] | kslater: | do you have a link? |
| [17:19:37] | Captainseabag: | this is all i've got: |
| [17:19:38] | Captainseabag: | http://gctglobal.com/Products/Set_Top_Box/K35/k35.html |
| [17:20:11] | xris: | Captainseabag: a quick google seems to indicate that it *might* be possible, but if it is, it's a lot of work. |
| [17:20:15] | Captainseabag: | it's no big deal though; i did email the salesman there to see if he can just get me a box big enough to fit my own pci tuner and a hdd |
| [17:20:18] | Captainseabag: | ooh i see |
| [17:20:32] | xris: | Captainseabag: what kind of signal are you connecting to? |
| [17:20:39] | Captainseabag: | ntsc cable |
| [17:21:15] | kslater: | I figure you really want a PVR-x50 then |
| [17:21:26] | xris: | Captainseabag: analog or digital? |
| [17:21:28] | kslater: | can't go wrong with hardware encoding your input stream to disk |
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| [17:21:46] | Captainseabag: | hm who makes the pvr-x50? and analog, xris |
| [17:21:53] | xris: | Hauppauge |
| [17:22:06] | xris: | pvr-150 and pvr-500 |
| [17:22:08] | kslater: | ntsc sorta implies analog to me, atsc digital |
| [17:22:19] | Captainseabag: | ahh i see. i just bought a 150mce and it didn't "just work" with R5D1 |
| [17:22:33] | xris: | kslater: atsc is OTA digital.. I record digital NTSC out of my cable box... |
| [17:22:37] | Captainseabag: | ahh yea true. i dont mind atsc either :D |
| [17:23:04] | kslater: | xris – digital meaning HD? |
| [17:23:20] | Captainseabag: | ohh true, digital cable is still mostly analog |
| [17:23:23] | xris: | kslater: no. ntsc meaning sd |
| [17:23:29] | kslater: | k |
| [17:23:32] | xris: | Captainseabag: not in seattle. |
| [17:23:44] | xris: | kslater: comcast gives me all of my channels over firewire — HD and SD |
| [17:24:09] | Captainseabag: | over firewire?? from the cable box out to a pc? |
| [17:24:15] | kslater: | HD uncompressed? |
| [17:24:37] | seth|laptop: | that would take a big hard drive |
| [17:24:48] | xris: | Captainseabag: yeah. required by fcc law for HD customers. |
| [17:25:00] | xris: | totally worth the $5/month upgrade to the HD box for me. |
| [17:25:11] | Captainseabag: | you're kidding... i oughtta try that on my box |
| [17:25:41] | xris: | but they're only *required* to give you the channels you could get OTA.. some places give you all of them, others are backwards and you still have to fight to get the minimums. |
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| [17:25:47] | seth|laptop: | now recording over firewire, can you do more than 1 channel at a time? |
| [17:25:48] | Captainseabag: | so would my question be any easier if i asked, how do i get a hauppauge 150mce working? |
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| [17:25:59] | xris: | seth|laptop: no. the cable box still only has one tuner. |
| [17:26:00] | kslater: | xris – same law doesn't seem to apply for US sat providers. Or does it? Seems like you can only get raw data |
| [17:26:15] | xris: | Captainseabag: if you already have the card, yes. |
| [17:26:21] | Captainseabag: | yes sir i do |
| [17:26:28] | xris: | kslater: no. fcc doesn't control satellite. |
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| [17:27:30] | xris: | Captainseabag: firewire is at least worth looking into if you already have a box (sometimes you have to ask to get a box with firewire ports enabled, but they're supposed to provide one if you ask). |
| [17:27:57] | xris: | as for the 150, there seems to be a decent howto at ivtvdriver.org, and if you run into issues, people here can usually help. |
| [17:32:07] | Captainseabag: | it's the 150MCE btw... i guess that makes a difference |
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| [17:32:56] | Dr_willis: | My Hauppage 150 worked very well with KnoppMyth – once i figured out where to select the right video card. :) |
| [17:33:12] | xris: | not really. there are about a dozen versions of the 150. mce just has different plugs on the back and doesn't come with a remote. |
| [17:33:17] | Captainseabag: | where to select the right video card? |
| [17:33:40] | xris: | mythtv-setup |
| [17:33:56] | xris: | Captainseabag: and making sure the tuner type is set properly in modules.conf (or whatever your distro calls it) |
| [17:34:08] | Dr_willis: | Its the x50-Hauugpage item in one of the fields. |
| [17:34:11] | Dr_willis: | I think. |
| [17:34:11] | xris: | you also have to make sure the firmware files are in the proper location on your system. |
| [17:34:50] | Captainseabag: | ok i hit a mental brick wall here. let me see if i can find modules.conf |
| [17:35:07] | xris: | Captainseabag: what distro? |
| [17:35:19] | xris: | sometimes /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf |
| [17:35:36] | opello: | hm, so i added a manual recording, and now it's in my program listing? |
| [17:35:43] | opello: | (on mythweb anyway) |
| [17:35:45] | ** xris wishes that linux distros would settle on a SINGLE standard place for such things. ** | |
| [17:35:59] | xris: | opello: that's how mythtv does it now |
| [17:36:09] | Captainseabag: | knoppmyth r5d1 |
| [17:36:11] | opello: | can i expunge it? :) |
| [17:36:33] | Captainseabag: | ok holdon guys, finding the module thing |
| [17:36:33] | xris: | opello: just delete the schedule |
| [17:37:28] | opello: | ah good idea :) cancel/save worked |
| [17:37:41] | opello: | a little less obvious than a delete button on the schedule page, but it got the job done |
| [17:39:23] | opello: | btw, thanks :) |
| [17:39:56] | xris: | opello: couldn't think of a better way to handle it. |
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| [17:43:06] | Captainseabag: | hm in the modprobe.d directory there is no conf file! |
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| [17:43:38] | Captainseabag: | i apologize for the noobness here but do i have to ls for hidden files? |
| [17:44:26] | Dr_willis: | ls -al |
| [17:44:31] | Dr_willis: | shows .files |
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| [17:45:05] | Captainseabag: | hm nope, no conf files |
| [17:45:31] | Captainseabag: | there's a file called KnoppMyth that contains two includes for ivtv drivers |
| [17:46:48] | seth|laptop: | Captainseabag: what output do you get when you type 'ivtv-detect' ? |
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| [17:48:53] | Captainseabag: | seth, says haupauge wintv-pvr150, then video ison video0, radio on radio0, adn some other encoders |
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| [17:49:25] | seth|laptop: | well then the drivers are there |
| [17:49:36] | seth|laptop: | probably just needs set up in mythtv-setup |
| [17:50:56] | Captainseabag: | i've done that, i told it video0 and all. when i select Watch Live TV the screen goes black for a few seconds then comes back to the menu |
| [17:51:33] | Captainseabag: | it wouldn't be because of my vga card would it? |
| [17:51:40] | Paladine: | [17244554.232000] hiddev96: USB HID v1.00 Device [Joseph Heenan Sky/Sky+ Digibox Controller] on usb-0000:00:02.0–1 <- now I just have to figure out how to use it :) |
| [17:52:05] | seth|laptop: | Captainseabag: backend on the same machine? |
| [17:52:28] | Captainseabag: | yes |
| [17:53:39] | seth|laptop: | and when you run mythfrontend in a terminal, are there any errors |
| [17:53:47] | Captainseabag: | i suppose if i sched a manual recording and it worked, i'd know if it was just a bad vga card |
| [17:53:49] | Captainseabag: | i'll try that now |
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| [17:55:15] | Captainseabag: | entry error, then failed to get page info |
| [17:55:34] | juski_: | huh? |
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| [17:55:46] | Juski: | better |
| [17:56:09] | Captainseabag: | GetEntry at (-1) failed |
| [18:03:14] | seth|laptop: | this a stock R5D1 install |
| [18:03:19] | Captainseabag: | yes |
| [18:03:21] | seth|laptop: | no svn updates or anything? |
| [18:03:25] | seth|laptop: | hrm |
| [18:03:27] | Captainseabag: | correct |
| [18:03:53] | seth|laptop: | what video card? |
| [18:04:06] | Captainseabag: | geforce 2 |
| [18:04:10] | seth|laptop: | and was it an autoinstall, or an upgrade |
| [18:04:15] | Captainseabag: | autoinstall |
| [18:05:15] | seth|laptop: | ok, under setup-utilities>setup>tv>tv playback, which are you using for decoder and interlacing? |
| [18:06:46] | seth|laptop: | I'm not sure a geforce 2 card will do it though, but I wouldnt see why not |
| [18:06:54] | ** seth|laptop never had one ** | |
| [18:06:57] | Captainseabag: | ok let me check |
| [18:07:31] | seth|laptop: | BTW, what is the source |
| [18:07:43] | seth|laptop: | cable dish, coax, a/v cabels |
| [18:07:55] | Captainseabag: | coax standard ntsc cable |
| [18:08:30] | seth|laptop: | and you have set up a zap2it account? |
| [18:08:43] | Juski: | whee time to make some circuits |
| [18:09:31] | jasta: | yay, new bloc party album coming out :) |
| [18:09:45] | seth|laptop: | I am not sure if a channel scan is required for cable or not, I use dish |
| [18:10:02] | Dr_willis: | I did a channel scan |
| [18:10:07] | seth|laptop: | but I have the same card, pvr150MCE |
| [18:10:09] | Dr_willis: | then removed all the *#&@&@*@ Home shopping Channels. |
| [18:10:09] | Captainseabag: | just says libmpeg2 |
| [18:10:17] | Captainseabag: | yes i did set up the zap2it |
| [18:10:20] | seth|laptop: | ok, change that to Standard |
| [18:10:29] | Captainseabag: | haha home shopping |
| [18:10:37] | Paladine: | juski, that usb rf controller is proving problematic at the moment |
| [18:10:38] | Captainseabag: | ok did that, no difference |
| [18:10:47] | Dr_willis: | I got them blocked on the normal tv.. so the wife Never sees them. |
| [18:10:49] | Paladine: | the test commands aren't working |
| [18:11:16] | Juski: | Paladine: hassle the seller. he's duty-bound ;) |
| [18:11:33] | Paladine: | Juski, yeah I already emailed him, Iam sure he will sort it out |
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| [18:11:52] | Paladine: | the lED is flashing indicating it is getting the command, but the sky box is just doing nothing |
| [18:12:00] | Paladine: | LED |
| [18:12:41] | Juski: | is it plugged into the right rf socket? |
| [18:12:45] | Juski: | and is the STB so enabled? |
| [18:13:05] | Juski: | from what I read you need to enable-ify it on the STB too |
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| [18:14:16] | crudpuppy: | ok, pvr-150 ivtv drivers installed...now when I try and tune it I get ioctl VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY failed |
| [18:14:22] | seth|laptop: | Captainseabag: you using tv out or is this on a monitor |
| [18:14:30] | crudpuppy: | can't find anything online to help me out |
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| [18:16:09] | Captainseabag: | monitor |
| [18:16:56] | seth|laptop: | very odd |
| [18:17:04] | Captainseabag: | hey crud, join the 150 anguish crowd :) |
| [18:17:08] | Captainseabag: | yes |
| [18:17:23] | crudpuppy: | lol |
| [18:17:31] | Captainseabag: | holdon leme sched a recording |
| [18:17:52] | crudpuppy: | I'm on gentoo using the latest of everything in case it matters |
| [18:18:01] | seth|laptop: | Captainseabag: yeah, try to schedule something, and KP is using the nvidia drivers, not the nv drivers? |
| [18:18:16] | seth|laptop: | actually that probably shouldn't matter |
| [18:19:07] | Captainseabag: | ok then, i go to sched recording and it says sorry guidegrid's gotn othing to show you. manual record wont let me pick a channel cause none exist... i did dl the program guide to |
| [18:19:09] | Captainseabag: | *tho |
| [18:19:35] | seth|laptop: | looks as thought your zap2it stuff never downloaded, or mythfilldatabase was not run |
| [18:19:59] | seth|laptop: | do you see a bunch of "Unknown"'s |
| [18:20:26] | Captainseabag: | nah just nothing |
| [18:20:52] | seth|laptop: | ah, shutdown the frontend, stop the backend, and then re-run mythtv-setup |
| [18:20:58] | seth|laptop: | delete the card, then re-add it |
| [18:21:13] | seth|laptop: | then restart the frontend, and re-run mythfilldatabase |
| [18:21:46] | seth|laptop: | make sure you do all the steps on the setup, from capture device to step 3, I dont guess you need to rename any channels |
| [18:24:54] | Captainseabag: | ohh how do i restart the backend |
| [18:25:01] | Captainseabag: | er shut down backend |
| [18:28:41] | Captainseabag: | nevermind, found it |
| [18:28:42] | seth|laptop: | wait |
| [18:29:34] | Captainseabag: | ya? |
| [18:29:40] | seth|laptop: | do /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop to stop the backend |
| [18:29:47] | Captainseabag: | ahh ok |
| [18:29:57] | seth|laptop: | snd then /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
| [18:30:04] | seth|laptop: | before you do the mythfilldatabase |
| [18:30:31] | seth|laptop: | i had to log into my box at home to check, forgot the app that runs the backend :-) |
| [18:31:15] | Captainseabag: | hmm ok it keeps saying doesnt exist, and it's there in the ls |
| [18:31:52] | seth|laptop: | are you root or using sudo |
| [18:32:18] | Captainseabag: | sorry got it... |
| [18:32:23] | seth|laptop: | actually you need to be root, until you update /etc/sudoers |
| [18:32:27] | Captainseabag: | my problem is the comp is in the other room |
| [18:32:32] | seth|laptop: | ah |
| [18:32:45] | Captainseabag: | so i have to keep running back and forth. darn UPS, not delivering my laptop yet :D |
| [18:33:39] | seth|laptop: | well mine is on a tv, with no keybaord, so I ahve to do everything from the laptop or one of my slaves |
| [18:33:54] | seth|laptop: | occasionally from my zaurus |
| [18:34:31] | Captainseabag: | you ssh into it from the zaurus? hot! |
| [18:35:18] | Paladine: | w00p I have the command line working :) now I just have to find an easy way to integrate it into mythtv without having to add about 600 channels manually |
| [18:35:54] | Captainseabag: | hotness |
| [18:36:18] | Captainseabag: | i scored an HP PIII laptop for $40 on ebay... all it needed was a new hard drive! |
| [18:37:09] | seth|laptop: | thats a good buy |
| [18:37:24] | seth|laptop: | I just got an hp dual p3 1ghz server on ebay for 75$ |
| [18:37:30] | seth|laptop: | that willbe my new backend |
| [18:37:49] | Captainseabag: | very sick |
| [18:38:08] | Captainseabag: | all of a sudden that horsepower will be utilized for more than just passing viagra spams! |
| [18:38:09] | Dagmar: | Is the only thing the frontend talks to the database FINALLY |
| [18:38:57] | Dagmar: | Bleh. That was a bit of a mess. *ANYWAY* I finally spent enough time dorking with Visio to make a functional diagram so we've got something to point people who refuse to read at, when they ask silly questions about what the database is for |
| [18:38:58] | Dagmar: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Image:Mythdiagram.png |
| [18:39:18] | Dagmar: | I'll figure out where the heck to actually put it in the docs later tonight |
| [18:39:23] | seth|laptop: | well I have 2 HD cards, and 2 pvr150's, and only 2 pci slots on my frontend, so I have random slaves with cards in them, this will be a one stop siolution |
| [18:40:07] | Dagmar: | ...heading home from the office now. (I'm such a slacker) |
| [18:40:22] | Paladine: | hey juski you here? |
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| [18:40:27] | seth|laptop: | must be nice, I think we still have 3 hours or so shere |
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| [18:41:21] | Captainseabag: | nice, 1 stop server solution! i'll probably do that eventually, cause having a tv tuner card on my mac mini just bogs it down to the point where i lost 2 hdds :D |
| [18:41:53] | Juski: | Paladine: yeah |
| [18:42:01] | seth|laptop: | my problem is if I record from 1 pvr and 1 hd at the same time commflagging is running I have to renice to 19, which is why keep my Zaurus close by. it tasks my poor little amd64 3200+ a bit during hd playback, very annoying |
| [18:42:17] | Paladine: | juski, you know off the top of your head what I have to do in mythtv-setup for Sky scheduling? |
| [18:42:22] | Paladine: | save me looking it up |
| [18:42:29] | Juski: | nope |
| [18:42:45] | Juski: | though tv_grab_uk_rt --configure wouldn't go amiss |
| [18:42:58] | Juski: | or do you already have the channels set up? |
| [18:43:08] | Paladine: | no I don't have the channels setup yet |
| [18:43:11] | Paladine: | I have to do them manually |
| [18:43:24] | Paladine: | which is gonna take a while |
| [18:43:25] | Captainseabag: | yeah im using a p3 for this mythtv setup now, if i can make it work i'll invest money into a new pc |
| [18:43:28] | Juski: | someone did a script for $ky |
| [18:43:37] | Captainseabag: | a p3 tower i got for $8 and change |
| [18:44:03] | Paladine: | Juski, yeah but will it work with this controller, I have to set the frequencies for all my channels to the relevant channel number |
| [18:44:11] | Paladine: | so like the frequency for sky 1 I have to set to 106 |
| [18:44:12] | Paladine: | etc |
| [18:44:15] | Juski: | yeah |
| [18:44:25] | Juski: | it only take ch numbers as input AFAIK |
| [18:44:40] | jams: | Dagmar The frontend doesn't transmit and the backend doesn't connect to mysql for mythvideo and mythmusic info. |
| [18:45:25] | Paladine: | am looking forward to finally not having livetv crash every 30 minutes cos I don't have any scheduling setup |
| [18:45:29] | Captainseabag: | it has an AMD64 sticker on it to give it more horsepower :D |
| [18:45:36] | seth|laptop: | hehe |
| [18:45:50] | Juski: | what everybody needs is a mythtv case badge with the mythtv logo on it |
| [18:45:57] | Dr_willis: | Put the PC above the monitor – that way the bits can run downhill faster... |
| [18:46:23] | ** seth|laptop has 5 of those, although one is leaving the house on christmas day ** | |
| [18:46:37] | Dr_willis: | Heh – Next MythTV box i build i want a nicer case – this pc case just dose not look good sitting next to the TV |
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| [18:46:54] | seth|laptop: | built my father-in-law an hd mythbox for christmas, with a shiny new case badge |
| [18:47:36] | Juski: | ooo that was nice of you. you must love doing tech support ;) |
| [18:48:01] | Juski: | (on phone) "yeah, so just open up a terminal and type ps -aux |grep mythbackend" |
| [18:48:08] | seth|laptop: | well he just wants hd, and dvd, couldn't beleive he didnt have advd player |
| [18:48:13] | seth|laptop: | hehe |
| [18:48:14] | Captainseabag: | yeah righty-o on the nice case |
| [18:48:20] | Captainseabag: | nice of you! |
| [18:48:22] | seth|laptop: | i have him set up for ssh |
| [18:48:38] | Captainseabag: | ok i killed the backend, ran mythfilldatabsae, ran mythfillsetup, |
| [18:48:46] | Juski: | until my dad got his pc wings I was doing remote desktop |
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| [18:49:09] | Captainseabag: | ya remote desktop is very time saving instead of, "i see a button here, it says OK or Cancel... hmm theres some other tabs" |
| [18:49:10] | seth|laptop: | and you completed all the steps during setup? |
| [18:49:17] | Captainseabag: | yeah did all the steps. still nothing |
| [18:49:42] | seth|laptop: | wow, I am out of ideas, I ahve never known KP to "not work" |
| [18:50:21] | Captainseabag: | :( |
| [18:50:29] | Captainseabag: | hey i appreciate the help |
| [18:50:36] | seth|laptop: | nothing in the guide? |
| [18:50:39] | Captainseabag: | could it be a chipset thing? |
| [18:50:41] | Captainseabag: | nothing in the guide |
| [18:50:51] | Captainseabag: | as in the motherboard's chipset |
| [18:50:59] | seth|laptop: | no, its not the card/chipset, its zap2it |
| [18:51:12] | seth|laptop: | ivtv-detect shows the card, so KP sees it |
| [18:51:47] | seth|laptop: | when you set up zap2it, did you just select all the cahnnels, or just a few fav's |
| [18:51:51] | Captainseabag: | all |
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| [18:52:07] | Juski: | Captainseabag: the default setup option for capture cards isn't the one you want to be using, fyi. you didn't just leave the capture card type as 'v4l' did you? |
| [18:52:21] | Captainseabag: | i tried it as mpeg card and v4l |
| [18:52:21] | seth|laptop: | and the card is preset to come on on what channel, like mine is set to tune Lifetime for the wife |
| [18:52:34] | Captainseabag: | set up to tune to tuner ch 2 i assum |
| [18:52:36] | Captainseabag: | e |
| [18:52:37] | seth|laptop: | you did use the one that says x50 |
| [18:52:47] | Juski: | Captainseabag: it'll only work as mpeg |
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| [18:53:09] | seth|laptop: | well if you are not using a set top box, you shouldn't need to "preset the channel to" option, for tuning, just for starting |
| [18:53:12] | Juski: | and when you went thru the setup menus did you go all the way through til 'finish' ? settings won't get stored otherwise |
| [18:53:38] | Captainseabag: | yes |
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| [18:54:41] | Juski: | did you restart mythbackend after making setup changes? |
| [18:54:59] | Captainseabag: | it said couldnt start for some reason so i just shutdown-r now |
| [18:55:19] | seth|laptop: | well that is not good |
| [18:55:26] | Juski: | that 'some reason' was maybe that it was still running |
| [18:55:28] | seth|laptop: | you ran mythtv-setup as root |
| [18:55:36] | Captainseabag: | i ran it as mythtv |
| [18:55:40] | seth|laptop: | doh! |
| [18:55:43] | Captainseabag: | :( |
| [18:56:00] | seth|laptop: | that could be the first problem |
| [18:56:15] | Captainseabag: | alrighty, i'll kill the process, run mythtv-setup as root, then should i do mythfilldatabase again? |
| [18:56:22] | seth|laptop: | yes |
| [18:56:35] | Captainseabag: | kill adn restart process as root right? |
| [18:56:41] | seth|laptop: | yes |
| [18:56:46] | seth|laptop: | mythtv-setup as root |
| [18:57:00] | seth|laptop: | and also to stop the backend, yaddah, yaddah |
| [18:57:01] | Captainseabag: | and from an architectural standpoint, how come this didn't work out of the box, when it did for some people? |
| [18:57:13] | Captainseabag: | k |
| [18:57:16] | seth|laptop: | only thing you want to do a mythtv is strat the frontend |
| [18:57:22] | Captainseabag: | ok |
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| [18:57:43] | seth|laptop: | not sure, I did 6 installs of r5d1, and they all worked right away |
| [18:57:50] | Captainseabag: | :D thats good |
| [18:57:52] | seth|laptop: | then I updated to mythsvn-fixes |
| [18:58:01] | Captainseabag: | yea im not complaining, just wondering why so i can prevent this next time |
| [18:58:22] | Juski: | bah I need my solder wick |
| [18:58:26] | Hoxzer: | 4 |
| [18:58:33] | seth|laptop: | 3 |
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| [18:59:15] | Paladine: | juski, if I can get theguy who made this controller to dump his channel table to a .sql script, would it be safe to just dump it into my existing database? |
| [18:59:39] | Juski: | Paladine: maybe, maybe not |
| [18:59:42] | seth|laptop: | that is a good question Captainseabag, the first step after the inital reboot, is to enter the root password, and thus all configuring thereafter is done as root |
| [18:59:54] | Paladine: | I can't find this channel script you were talking about |
| [19:00:19] | Paladine: | Ihave manually added a couple of channels now and the controller is working |
| [19:00:20] | Juski: | Paladine: hmmm. I think it was submitted on a ticket |
| [19:00:29] | Paladine: | just looking for a quicker way to add the hundreds of channels we have hehehe |
| [19:01:17] | Captainseabag: | OK get this... in setup apparently after you select your capture card and default input (tuner 1) i forgot that later on in setup you had to assign tuner1 to Coach (name of my channel listings databsae) |
| [19:01:37] | Paladine: | works both with typing the channel number in on the numeric keyboard and using the up/down cursor keys |
| [19:01:45] | Paladine: | so pretty chuffed so far :) |
| [19:02:02] | Captainseabag: | so when you guys were asking about my default channel i said i assume channel 2. well i just found the part where you actually do assign tuner1 to coach and dfeault channel i assigned to 2 |
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| [19:02:28] | Captainseabag: | i'll be so happy if this works now |
| [19:02:50] | Juski: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2686 Paladine |
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| [19:03:43] | ** Juski wonders if he has any 78l05 voltage regulators in his goody box ** | |
| [19:04:02] | Captainseabag: | HHAHAHA |
| [19:04:05] | Captainseabag: | SETH YOU'RE A GENIUS |
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| [19:04:25] | Captainseabag: | by walking me through these random steps... aside from the not doing it as root originally, i just never ocnnected tuner 1 with my databsae! |
| [19:04:46] | Captainseabag: | now i['m gonna sit on my floor and watch QVC in all its stunning crappiness for the rest of the day :D |
| [19:04:52] | Captainseabag: | and i owe you a beer or something |
| [19:06:09] | seth|laptop: | hehe |
| [19:06:27] | Juski: | one voltage regulator, unsmoked |
| [19:06:29] | Captainseabag: | so waht do you do for a living |
| [19:06:29] | Juski: | :) |
| [19:06:37] | seth|laptop: | just glad to give back, this channel is one of the only reasons my mtythv works at all, and I am not running a microshaft produt |
| [19:06:39] | Captainseabag: | cause i might need some coders at my company |
| [19:06:51] | Captainseabag: | ahah tell me about it... $1700 for a microvirus MCE |
| [19:07:08] | seth|laptop: | I am a unix sys admin for the PA state court system |
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| [19:08:56] | Captainseabag: | haha that's awesome |
| [19:09:12] | Captainseabag: | ive got a brother who lives in blue bell pa and is interested in working as a sysadmin |
| [19:09:49] | seth|laptop: | I have been to blue bell |
| [19:10:24] | Captainseabag: | i haven't.. he was living outside of reading and i left a bag of pork rinds on his car and drove away |
| [19:10:43] | seth|laptop: | i have relatives in reading |
| [19:10:56] | Captainseabag: | nice place |
| [19:10:59] | seth|laptop: | i don't visit them much, hehe |
| [19:11:05] | Captainseabag: | im up in rochester, ny boringest place ever |
| [19:12:37] | Captainseabag: | do yo uknow how to modify mythtv, aka creating plugins? |
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| [19:12:58] | Paladine: | oh hell I think I have to rebuild mythtv |
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| [19:13:07] | Paladine: | I don't think I built it with xmltv enabled |
| [19:13:51] | seth|laptop: | no sir, a coder I am not |
| [19:14:06] | Captainseabag: | hmm k just checking. looking to hire a coder |
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| [19:14:35] | Captainseabag: | im actually a 24 year old retired businessman :D sold a juice bar and travelled all year, but i blew all my retirement savings by the time november hit |
| [19:14:54] | ** seth|laptop can rememebr 24 ** | |
| [19:15:16] | Captainseabag: | had a good time? |
| [19:16:52] | seth|laptop: | I had just gotten out of the military, and was looking for work, but I do remember some good things, and my first wife. |
| [19:17:47] | Captainseabag: | orly |
| [19:17:59] | sigger: | Captainseabag: there still a club in downtown rochester called The Church? |
| [19:19:19] | seth|laptop: | hey I just noticed a problem with my mythbox, normally I have to renice commflag to 19, so I wrote a script to run nice -n19 mythcommflag, and inserted it into the mysql tables, now commflag isn't working, yet running the script from the cli does, very odd |
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| [19:26:01] | Bernardo: | you guys get married early... |
| [19:26:11] | ** Bernardo got married when he was 34... ** | |
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| [19:28:58] | ** seth|laptop was first married at 18 ** | |
| [19:29:18] | seth|laptop: | then again at 30, and once more, at 35 |
| [19:29:36] | seth|laptop: | 35 was the keeper, I gues 3rd time is a charm |
| [19:29:38] | seth|laptop: | ;-) |
| [19:29:45] | sigger: | hat trick! |
| [19:29:58] | Juski: | Paladine: how the hell did you build mythtv without xmltv? |
| [19:30:33] | Captainseabag: | :D |
| [19:30:51] | Captainseabag: | i figure i should've gotten an arranged marriage, saves me time basically |
| [19:35:37] | Captainseabag: | well thanks a lot seth, im gonna go look at more miss nevada pics and get some lunch :D hope to see you on here again |
| [19:36:00] | seth|laptop: | np Capt. and I am ususally here |
| [19:36:13] | Captainseabag: | hadry har! |
| [19:36:18] | seth|laptop: | hehe |
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| [19:37:36] | ** seth|laptop looks for Placebo's song "Running up that Hill"...... ** | |
| [19:38:12] | seth|laptop: | heh, the firewall guys have blocked out any reference to a music web site, guess I'll have to get onto a datacenter box |
| [19:41:56] | Juski: | I thought that was a Kate Bush song, but never mind |
| [19:42:02] | SavageOne: | happy chrismahanakwanza |
| [19:42:14] | seth|laptop: | Juski: it was redone |
| [19:42:27] | Juski: | did mr Molko make it _good_ then? ;) |
| [19:42:37] | xris: | Juski: fyi, http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ . . . mockup11.png is still my fav. |
| [19:42:47] | seth|laptop: | I heard it on the Bones Episode "Judads on a Pole" at the very end, can't get it out of my head |
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| [19:43:15] | Juski: | xris: okees. don't expect much over the next few days.. not right now anyway cos I have a soldering iron in one hand |
| [19:43:17] | caitlin: | oi oi |
| [19:43:28] | xris: | Juski: just needs some kind of border between the light blue of the left nav and the surrounding dark blue, which is what I was calling a groove. |
| [19:43:31] | Juski: | oui oui |
| [19:43:38] | xris: | Juski: np.. it *is* christmas weekend. :) |
| [19:43:51] | Juski: | oh you mean I get time off? ;) |
| [19:44:10] | caitlin: | i cannot get my remote talking to mplayer.... i have a lircrc file for my user, with all my definitions for mplayer, but it's resolutely ignoring them, any of you guys know where it might be looking for config? |
| [19:45:33] | Juski: | caitlin: for the user, it's .lircrc |
| [19:45:39] | Juski: | in ~/ |
| [19:45:53] | Juski: | and it needs some prog = mplayer stuff inside it |
| [19:45:57] | caitlin: | yeh, i thought so |
| [19:46:36] | caitlin: | and that is there, and has commands in it |
| [19:47:31] | Juski: | hrm. anyway. it's teat time. wow it's late |
| [19:47:49] | caitlin: | hmm, i wonder if ubuntu compiles this without support |
| [19:47:52] | Juski: | teat? I mean TEA. that was a bit Freudian |
| [19:49:02] | jrr_: | hehe |
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| [19:51:40] | metalac: | i wouldn't mind some teat time right about now |
| [19:51:47] | metalac: | but my teats are at work :( |
| [19:52:29] | seth|laptop: | hehe, sheesh |
| [19:52:45] | seth|laptop: | hey, does the mediamvp setup work well with mythtv? |
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| [19:54:28] | xris: | Juski: I get all next week off. of course, if I *didn't* take it off, I'd lose the days off. |
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| [19:55:13] | Inssomniak: | Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: Then frontend doesnt start watching TV, what does this mean? |
| [19:55:33] | seth|laptop: | frontend and backend are not same mythtv versions |
| [19:55:43] | Inssomniak: | I though that, but I checked and they are the same |
| [19:55:58] | kormoc: | Inssomniak, obviously not, how did you check? |
| [19:56:07] | Inssomniak: | 12263 for the frontend, although the backend shows 12263M |
| [19:56:41] | kormoc: | which distro are you using? |
| [19:56:50] | Inssomniak: | gentoo on both frontend and backend |
| [19:56:52] | seth|laptop: | i had this happen once, when my 'updatesvn' script failed to cron on one of my frontends, but a quick, rerun of the script fixed it :-( |
| [19:57:41] | Inssomniak: | Library API version: 0.20.20061213–1 |
| [19:57:42] | Inssomniak: | Source code version: 12263M |
| [19:57:53] | Inssomniak: | the front end reports the same, less the "M" |
| [19:57:59] | kormoc: | Inssomniak, the Library API version the same as well? |
| [19:58:12] | Inssomniak: | yup |
| [19:58:17] | kormoc: | restart the backend? |
| [19:58:24] | Inssomniak: | yup |
| [19:58:31] | ** seth|laptop is glad he doesn't use emerge to update his frontend, whew! ** | |
| [19:58:38] | kormoc: | and the protoversions that it is complaining about are? |
| [19:58:39] | Inssomniak: | nope, dont do that either |
| [19:58:43] | kormoc: | 31 and 32? |
| [19:58:51] | caitlin: | duh, you just have to get the syntax right... <<dope |
| [19:59:09] | kormoc: | seth|laptop, heh, I use the ebuilds, but having gentoo all around keeps them in sync :P |
| [19:59:11] | seth|laptop: | did a light bulb come on for you caitlin |
| [19:59:31] | caitlin: | nope, but the volume works in mplayer, and i can quit out with the remote |
| [19:59:38] | caitlin: | so i never have to leave the sofa again |
| [19:59:41] | seth|laptop: | excellent |
| [19:59:46] | seth|laptop: | not so good |
| [19:59:49] | kormoc: | till you need munchies and beer! |
| [19:59:50] | caitlin: | my new chassis has a week uptime on it now |
| [19:59:53] | caitlin: | so all is going well |
| [19:59:53] | seth|laptop: | get up to get a beer now and again |
| [19:59:57] | caitlin: | beer is puke |
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| [20:00:06] | seth|laptop: | and when you do so , walk around the kitchen 3 time :P |
| [20:00:07] | caitlin: | chocolate and milk is the win |
| [20:00:39] | caitlin: | hmm, i could go get a baileys i suppose |
| [20:00:47] | seth|laptop: | thats the spirit |
| [20:01:45] | ** seth|laptop hmmm, baileys, not a bad idea actually ** | |
| [20:02:05] | caitlin: | my new car dashboard is in the mail as well, so i can trick out my car pc |
| [20:02:06] | caitlin: | mint |
| [20:02:19] | caitlin: | this holiday is good |
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| [20:03:04] | seth|laptop: | hey, there is good news, they just put out a rumor, that we may get to go home early today, excellent |
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| [20:04:05] | Krazylegz: | seth|laptop: It's 3pm. |
| [20:04:33] | seth|laptop: | yes, but I am scheduled until 5 |
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| [20:05:19] | ** Bernardo just found out why his machine has been hanging since he installed mythtv ** | |
| [20:06:00] | Bernardo: | just saw a raid5 induced kernel panic in a console... :( |
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| [20:15:52] | Juski: | kernel panics are baaad |
| [20:16:04] | jrr: | nuh-nuh |
| [20:16:50] | jrr: | i like it when my kernel panics |
| [20:18:05] | Juski: | yeh kernel panics are a way of life in noobOS |
| [20:18:09] | cesman: | at 6 PM PST (-8 GMT) in #knoppmyth, we'll be holding Drunk in IRC to celebrate the imminent release of the next version of KnoppMyth |
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| [20:18:24] | cesman: | please feel free to stop in... |
| [20:18:37] | Juski: | cesman: get my email btw? |
| [20:18:41] | cesman: | you'll have to BYOB |
| [20:18:43] | mateo: | what priviledges does the mythtv user need? |
| [20:18:50] | cesman: | yes, I did thanks |
| [20:18:51] | jrr: | that way it's not *technically* drinking by yourself! |
| [20:18:55] | jrr: | (alcoholic) |
| [20:19:11] | seth|laptop: | mateo: anything in /myth, should be chown 'd to mythtv:mythtv |
| [20:19:15] | cesman: | you are you talking to? |
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| [20:19:34] | Juski: | don't you be dissin' the cesman, jrr |
| [20:20:10] | jams: | yeah the fusion case will be here Tuesday! |
| [20:20:14] | mateo: | i'm talking about phpmyadmin privledges. if I log in with mythv it says priviledges: No |
| [20:20:17] | jrr: | jams: link |
| [20:20:38] | Bernardo: | I wonder what a "rip 0x2b8fd724c236" in dmesg output means... |
| [20:20:50] | jams: | http://www.provantage.com/antec-fusion~7ANTG048.htm |
| [20:21:22] | Juski: | very nice apart from the front panel ports |
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| [20:21:46] | seth|laptop: | oh, ok, then I can't help, I use root for phpmydamin, probably not very smart, but it works :-) |
| [20:21:49] | cesman: | jrr: so _who_ were you calling an alcoholic? |
| [20:22:30] | jams: | They don't look so bad in real life. |
| [20:22:30] | jrr: | nobody in particular |
| [20:22:31] | Paladine: | where do I find tv_grab_uk_rt ? |
| [20:23:29] | Juski: | Paladine: in xmltv |
| [20:23:29] | LLyric: | stfw |
| [20:23:46] | jrr: | jams: that's not a bad deal if the psu doesn't suck |
| [20:23:58] | seth|laptop: | jams: thats a nice case |
| [20:24:17] | mateo: | is there a forum to ask mythtv questions on? |
| [20:24:20] | jams: | antec is often good about those things |
| [20:24:25] | Juski: | oh crap. where did I put my wire strippers? |
| [20:24:26] | Paladine: | juski? |
| [20:24:37] | Juski: | Paladine: in the xmltv packages |
| [20:24:50] | Juski: | mateo: www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/ |
| [20:24:59] | Juski: | or google for mythtv forum |
| [20:25:00] | Paladine: | I dont appear to have xmltv installed |
| [20:25:12] | Juski: | Paladine: so installify it ;) |
| [20:25:27] | ** LLyric needs to built an ultra-quiet frontend, once the shops open again after xmas. ** | |
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| [20:25:47] | LLyric: | Sick of my ugly noisy six-disk backend in my lounge |
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| [20:28:18] | LLyric: | jrr: are there linux drivers for the VFD on that thing? |
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| [20:30:16] | Krazylegz: | Anyone want to help me more with X? I'm having a heck of a time. |
| [20:31:41] | ** Bernardo needs a cheap and silent frontend for the wife... ** | |
| [20:31:48] | Krazylegz: | http://www.hitracker.com:81/xorg.conf is my current xorg.conf. I can't get the color depth high enough, everything else is pretty good. |
| [20:32:18] | Krazylegz: | I used to have better color than this when I used the composite output with an SDTV. Now my LCD does 1366x768 and I'm using VGA, but this isn't working for me. |
| [20:33:51] | Juski: | there's no such thing as cheap AND silent ;) |
| [20:36:19] | mateo: | how do you tell the backend to stop? |
| [20:36:32] | LLyric: | depends on your distro :) |
| [20:36:46] | Juski: | yelling won't help ;) |
| [20:37:08] | LLyric: | mateo: basically, kill the process |
| [20:37:18] | Juski: | er.. .I wouldn't do that |
| [20:37:28] | Juski: | better to stop it properly |
| [20:37:50] | ** LLyric looked at his /etc/init.d/mythbackend script – it looks like it's just doing a kill ** | |
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| [20:39:00] | Juski: | and it deletes the /var/run file so the init script knows what state it's in |
| [20:39:18] | Juski: | killing processes might be fine for mythbackend, but it can lead to bad habits |
| [20:39:23] | LLyric: | yup |
| [20:39:27] | Juski: | and unexpected results |
| [20:39:50] | mateo: | what process? |
| [20:39:55] | mateo: | i have no process running |
| [20:40:02] | Juski: | mateo: what distro? |
| [20:40:15] | Juski: | usually something like /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop |
| [20:40:23] | Juski: | or /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop |
| [20:41:10] | mateo: | ubuntu |
| [20:41:30] | Juski: | sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop |
| [20:42:40] | mateo: | thanks |
| [20:42:57] | Juski: | and then sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
| [20:43:01] | Juski: | to restart it |
| [20:43:03] | Juski: | magic! |
| [20:43:23] | Bernardo: | Juski: one can always dream... My budget for a frontent isn't that big. That's why I am very interested in upnp support in mythtv |
| [20:43:53] | Juski: | heh. now those gadgets are silent |
| [20:44:03] | Juski: | not many that actually look like a pretty picture though |
| [20:44:34] | Bernardo: | one question, how do I tell mythtv to reindex the recordings? With the kernel panics and consequent corruption, I have some discrepancy between what's on disc and what myth thinks is there |
| [20:44:49] | Juski: | but then, you could say that about the folks in here :-P |
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| [20:44:51] | Bernardo: | I already have a dsm-320rd |
| [20:45:03] | Juski: | Bernardo: mythcommflag is your friend. try it with --help |
| [20:45:29] | Bernardo: | I stupidly bought it expecting the code to be GPL |
| [20:45:34] | Bernardo: | ok, thanks |
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| [20:45:47] | jams: | Bernardo- are you saying some recordings are on disk, but not in the db? |
| [20:46:00] | Bernardo: | and some on the db but not on disc |
| [20:46:03] | Inssomniak: | getting a LOT of writeaudio-buffer underrun errors (then sound cuts out) |
| [20:46:14] | Juski: | right, my car stereo line input is almost ready for testing :) |
| [20:46:34] | GreyFoxx: | Bernardo: Have you try the dsm with myth already ? |
| [20:46:36] | Bernardo: | I've had a few kernel panics here, it seems that software raid still has it's problems |
| [20:46:38] | GreyFoxx: | s/try/tried |
| [20:46:43] | Bernardo: | GreyFoxx: not yet |
| [20:46:51] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [20:46:56] | Bernardo: | I've been trying to get the backend to work before |
| [20:46:59] | jams: | hey GreyFoxx |
| [20:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm curious about how well it works for you |
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| [20:47:06] | GreyFoxx: | jams: Howdy |
| [20:47:13] | Bernardo: | and was trying to find why this machine had started hanging |
| [20:47:29] | Bernardo: | now it seems that it's software raid that can't keep up with mythtv |
| [20:48:15] | GreyFoxx: | unless you are doing some SERIOUS amount of recording or have bad drives I can't imagine that |
| [20:48:58] | Bernardo: | I don't know |
| [20:49:06] | Bernardo: | raid had worked until now |
| [20:49:26] | Bernardo: | maybe it's the second tv card giving problems too |
| [20:49:37] | Bernardo: | but the kernel panic I saw was raid |
| [20:50:15] | jams: | Bernardo- far as I know you would could run mythrebuildatabase to import the disk recordings back into the db. Then delete the remaining not found recordings via the frontend. |
| [20:50:24] | Bernardo: | I have to recheck if raid has any knwon problems in ubuntu edgy 64 |
| [20:50:37] | Bernardo: | jams: thanks, will do that |
| [20:50:46] | jams: | then you could run mythcommflag to reindex the recordings |
| [20:50:59] | caitlin: | would mythrebuilddatabase have to be run with the backend stopped? |
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| [20:51:22] | Igg-man: | My HD playback is choppy when I have sound enabled... it seems like it plays at half speed. Is there anything I can try to fix this? |
| [20:51:33] | jams: | caitlin- I don't think so |
| [20:51:54] | Igg-man: | I get "WriteAudio: BufferUnderrun" messages from the frontend |
| [20:52:28] | Bernardo: | it seems ubuntu doesn't install mythrebuilddatabase |
| [20:52:51] | Juski: | try in /usr/local/share/mythtv/contrib |
| [20:52:58] | jams: | so GreyFoxx what do you need to make a roku soundbridge with with upnp. It sees the server and lists the files but when you try to play one it says it can't find the file. |
| [20:53:38] | jams: | and don't say a roku soundbridge ;) |
| [20:54:29] | Bernardo: | Juski: not there, let me check if I'm missing ant |
| [20:54:34] | Bernardo: | any package |
| [20:55:50] | GreyFoxx: | jams: Does that just play audio or do video as well ? |
| [20:55:58] | Juski: | Bernardo: you could always download the tarball from mythtv.org ;) |
| [20:55:59] | jams: | only audio |
| [20:56:05] | GreyFoxx: | jams ok: |
| [20:56:19] | jams: | the photobridge does video and audio |
| [20:56:30] | Bernardo: | Juski: will do that soon, I really should build the svn tarball |
| [20:56:38] | GreyFoxx: | If you are running SVN or -fixes from the last few days you will want to update again since I broke it the other day :( fixed it today |
| [20:56:59] | Bernardo: | I saw the commits today... :) |
| [20:57:23] | jams: | oh i'm running SVN right before you commited the 360 fix |
| [20:57:50] | GreyFoxx: | jams: that same day I broke this other stuff :( |
| [20:58:05] | GreyFoxx: | Try updating to now :) |
| [20:58:15] | jams: | I was working with the orginal author of the myth upnp, but he sorta disappeared |
| [20:58:33] | Bernardo: | should I tell it to link with the nvidia XvMC lib or the default one? |
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| [21:00:34] | Bernardo: | well, I'm building for me, so nvidia it is |
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| [21:01:42] | jams: | oh vmware ws 6 will run in headless mode |
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| [21:22:36] | Juski: | yay my audio adapter works – first time too :) |
| [21:22:51] | Juski: | now I 'just' need to hack the cd changer cable |
| [21:23:27] | caitlin: | lovely |
| [21:23:44] | Juski: | it's a Pioneer one |
| [21:23:56] | Juski: | £40 if I mess it up |
| [21:24:03] | caitlin: | not too bad |
| [21:24:30] | Juski: | the circuit would also send audio over cat5 :) |
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| [21:25:25] | scopeuk: | this audio to car head unit via cd changer input? |
| [21:25:58] | Paladine: | juski do I have to anything special to use programme guides? I have rung the xmltv config, put it in ~/.mythtv called sky.xmltv (sky is the name of my video source), and I had added the numeric ID to the channel in mythtv-setup |
| [21:26:08] | Paladine: | but then I go to programme info, I get unknown |
| [21:26:18] | Juski: | scopeuk: yeah. Pioneer's is balanced |
| [21:26:25] | Juski: | Paladine: you ran mythfilldatabase yet? |
| [21:26:39] | Juski: | Paladine: as the mythtv user |
| [21:26:39] | Paladine: | yeah soon as I edited the channel in mythtv-setup |
| [21:27:02] | Juski: | Paladine: do the new entries in the channel table have xmltv ids? |
| [21:27:04] | scopeuk: | Juski nice |
| [21:27:16] | scopeuk: | think the kenwood ones are unbal alough dotn quote me on that |
| [21:27:23] | Juski: | hrm I need some red & black wire |
| [21:27:23] | caitlin: | nora, that blootube is a nice looking theme |
| [21:27:23] | Inssomniak: | anyone use mysql query browser and know how to delete rows? Its greyed out for me |
| [21:27:30] | Paladine: | why would I have to run it as mythtv user? I have just used my normal user in the past and it has worked fine |
| [21:27:42] | scopeuk: | was looking itno usign a damp box with my dads (or the spare in my car when i get roudn ito it) to use mp3 with the head unit |
| [21:27:48] | Juski: | gee thanks caitlin. try the OSD too. it's crispy |
| [21:27:55] | caitlin: | yars tis |
| [21:28:04] | caitlin: | i've got a boring telly though, so i dont widescreen |
| [21:28:11] | caitlin: | i should fork out for a good one |
| [21:28:11] | Paladine: | in fact when I added my 2 trest channels earlier, I ran mfd from my normal user and it worked |
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| [21:28:24] | Juski: | scopeuk: I've seen cables which are just a pioneer plug to minijack or phono plugs. icky |
| [21:29:02] | Juski: | ahhh that old balanced mike cable will do for red & black wires :) |
| [21:29:13] | scopeuk: | balanced mics |
| [21:29:28] | scopeuk: | gotta lvoe em |
| [21:29:30] | scopeuk: | xlr? |
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| [21:30:25] | Tronic: | Too bad that HIFI equipment doesn't support balanced connections. |
| [21:30:40] | scopeuk: | depends on your hifi equipement |
| [21:30:40] | Tronic: | I'll probably switch to studio equipment on my next system upgrade. |
| [21:30:57] | Juski: | scopeuk: neutrik XLRs. none of that Cannon shite |
| [21:31:11] | scopeuk: | cannon works |
| [21:31:22] | Juski: | proper hi-fi has balanced connections ;) |
| [21:31:24] | Tronic: | scopeuk: No, really, they don't. All that is branded hifi or high-end uses those crappy RCAs, usually with gold plating. |
| [21:31:46] | Juski: | high-end? if it's not got balanced ins it's not high end |
| [21:31:57] | scopeuk: | Tronic hi-fi by definition high fidelity extends to what youed probably class as studio gear |
| [21:32:07] | Tronic: | High-end is a marketing term for selling overpriced crap. |
| [21:32:14] | Tronic: | It has nothing to do with audio quality. |
| [21:32:27] | Juski: | not necessarily |
| [21:32:28] | Tronic: | And seriously, high-end devices do not use balanced connections. |
| [21:32:30] | scopeuk: | Juski those xlrs look liek whats id class as a cannon maby im jsut ncompetent lol |
| [21:32:43] | Tronic: | Studio hardware does. |
| [21:32:45] | Juski: | scopeuk: neutrik make the best ones :) |
| [21:32:58] | Tronic: | Gotta love Neutrik connectors. |
| [21:33:08] | Juski: | <8 Speakon |
| [21:33:14] | Tronic: | Especially the TRS/XLR combo is nice. |
| [21:33:16] | scopeuk: | speakon is fantastic |
| [21:33:35] | scopeuk: | unltill you realsise some bastard ran out 2 30m 8 ways instead of 2 10 m 8 ways and its alrady 5 am |
| [21:33:38] | Juski: | bit boring though... no sparks if you plug em into a live amp |
| [21:33:43] | Tronic: | Speakon is pretty nice, just badly overpriced. |
| [21:33:52] | Juski: | Tronic: depends where you shop |
| [21:34:05] | Juski: | they're as cheap as decent jack plugs here |
| [21:34:10] | Tronic: | Not that the price is going to make any difference in my setups, but ... |
| [21:34:16] | Juski: | 4-way ones are though |
| [21:34:37] | scopeuk: | 8 way is a bastrd |
| [21:34:50] | Juski: | to wire em up it prolly is |
| [21:34:55] | scopeuk: | fantastic as a conenction pain in the arse when tis in a large mobile gig |
| [21:35:04] | Juski: | but then so are those Bulgin 8 ways too |
| [21:35:24] | caitlin: | so right, for mythvideo and mythmusic, if you want a remote frontend to be able to access the media, you have to nfs mount it? it can't throw it across the mythprotocol stuff? |
| [21:35:36] | Juski: | caitlin: no you can't. gotta mount |
| [21:37:12] | ** scopeuk thinks he may have foud na new favorite connector http://www.neutrik.com/content/products/level . . . CatMSDE_misc ** | |
| [21:37:40] | Juski: | heh. they make great rj45 ones too |
| [21:38:04] | crudpuppy: | anyone else run into this stinking tuner type not set on a pvr-150 brand new card |
| [21:38:08] | scopeuk: | Juski yeh i saw them |
| [21:38:11] | scopeuk: | clsoe run thing |
| [21:39:34] | Juski: | crudpuppy: yeah I think mine was like that. never bothered fixing it since I never plan to use it |
| [21:39:39] | Juski: | svideo ftw |
| [21:39:46] | crudpuppy: | geez, thatnks |
| [21:39:47] | crudpuppy: | lol |
| [21:39:55] | crudpuppy: | ftw? |
| [21:40:19] | Juski: | google it |
| [21:41:33] | scopeuk: | google:define ftw :-) |
| [21:41:39] | scopeuk: | define:ftw |
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| [21:44:30] | Saviq: | hi guys... did any of You got a setup like this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/RGB_Scart working? |
| [21:44:55] | Saviq: | looks like i _almost_ got it working... |
| [21:45:17] | Saviq: | but it still does not sync well |
| [21:46:58] | Inssomniak: | in the channel editor is there a way to highlight a few channels and delete in one shot? |
| [21:47:34] | Juski: | Inssomniak: in mythweb there is |
| [21:48:01] | Juski: | but beware. if you delte the channel you just watched or recorded, it's time for the mysql-fu |
| [21:48:34] | Inssomniak: | as in? you screwed it up or that is a fix-it utility? |
| [21:49:06] | Juski: | as in.. if you delete the channel you just watched, livetv will be broken |
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| [22:02:53] | caitlin: | this frontend crack is daft.. if i change settings in one frontend, it affects the other |
| [22:02:58] | caitlin: | that seems a bit, uh, silly |
| [22:04:26] | GreyFoxx: | Sounds like you hve the same hostname on each frontend (which is what the settings are keyed too ) |
| [22:04:46] | caitlin: | hmm |
| [22:05:17] | caitlin: | i'd fiddle that with "myth-setup" right? |
| [22:05:21] | Paladine: | juski, I hadn't enabled xmltv in video source |
| [22:05:27] | Paladine: | looks like it is working now |
| [22:05:39] | Paladine: | or at least looks like it is pulling down a lot of data ;) |
| [22:05:45] | GreyFoxx: | caitlin: No, just set the hostname on each machine. The exact how is dependant on your distro :) |
| [22:06:02] | GreyFoxx: | Or you can manually set one that myth will use regardless of your distro's hostname in your mysql.txt |
| [22:07:27] | Paladine: | how long does it normally take mythfilldatabase to run the first time you enable programme scheduling? |
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| [22:12:52] | Inssomniak: | xvmc for me on all content just studders, although it was working on another install |
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| [22:14:09] | cesman: | Paladine: there is no really answer to your question |
| [22:14:15] | cesman: | too many variables |
| [22:14:35] | Inssomniak: | OK I havent been able to figure out this bug yet: LiveTV forcing JumpTo 1 |
| [22:14:42] | Inssomniak: | after 10 minutes of watching tv |
| [22:14:47] | cesman: | your connection speed, how busy zap2it servers are, how many channels, etc. |
| [22:14:59] | Inssomniak: | kills my live TV, and FLOODS the console |
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| [22:20:03] | matallo: | hello |
| [22:20:18] | matallo: | anybody here have experience with avermedia 777? |
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| [22:20:38] | tcpsyn: | I just bought my mom that dvr box from comcast |
| [22:20:44] | tcpsyn: | Not nearly as cool as myth |
| [22:20:56] | tcpsyn: | She's gonna have a hell of a time working that thing |
| [22:21:09] | tcpsyn: | I can actually look inside, the case is crated.. |
| [22:21:18] | tcpsyn: | theres just a seagate 160G HD in there |
| [22:21:22] | tcpsyn: | plain ole ide drive |
| [22:21:37] | matallo: | talking to me? |
| [22:21:42] | tcpsyn: | nomego, just talking |
| [22:21:49] | tcpsyn: | damn, sorry. |
| [22:21:52] | tcpsyn: | no. just talking |
| [22:22:06] | matallo: | okey |
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| [22:22:14] | tcpsyn: | she got tons of new channels. |
| [22:22:17] | GreyFoxx: | heh I got a upnp media player for my dad to add to let him watch his myth stuff from another room. |
| [22:22:17] | tcpsyn: | I want new channels. |
| [22:22:36] | Paladine: | man loads of program conflicts |
| [22:22:42] | tcpsyn: | Howcome she gets new channels with the dvr box, and I don't get them, with the same cable line? |
| [22:23:55] | kormoc: | tcpsyn, you should likely talk to your cable company. we can't really help you with that... |
| [22:24:31] | tcpsyn: | just wondering if thats the difference between using my normal ivtv driver, or a dvb driver |
| [22:24:50] | Paladine: | kormoc, how much prgrammeschedule data does mythtv-setup pull down the first time you enable, seems to take forever, is it a full months listings or just a couple of weeks or what? |
| [22:25:01] | kormoc: | Paladine, usually 14 days |
| [22:25:15] | Inssomniak: | I was reading the mythtv docs, and it mentions about installing/using a "realtime" module,. but I cant find any reference to this in my distro or kernel |
| [22:25:22] | Paladine: | I need to get a more upto date xmltv ID file |
| [22:25:32] | Paladine: | the one I have seems to missing a bunch of newish channels |
| [22:26:04] | kormoc: | tcpsyn, unless she's using full digital cable, she's not using a 'dvb' driver, and the pvr cards only get the first 100 some channels, it's a limit of their tuner |
| [22:26:09] | Paladine: | error inserting person <- thats gotta smart |
| [22:26:24] | Paladine: | me shoved into a mysql database |
| [22:26:29] | Paladine: | s/me/being |
| [22:26:47] | tcpsyn: | will my cable company be pissed that I'm using mythtv? |
| [22:26:55] | tcpsyn: | I know they get pissed if I run a mail server or anything. |
| [22:27:36] | Paladine: | and how do you propose they are going to know you are running mythtv? |
| [22:27:44] | Juski: | time to settle in front of the telly. hammond is on wossy tonight |
| [22:27:58] | Juski: | yeah I know, live tv.. pfft who'da thunk it? |
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| [22:31:19] | Paladine: | kormoc, I take it once you have run mythfilldatabase the first time, it then pulls down listings periodically? |
| [22:31:39] | kormoc: | Paladine, usually people have the backend run it, aye |
| [22:32:01] | Paladine: | do I have to do anything to make it run it regularly, or will it do it automatically? |
| [22:32:05] | kormoc: | Paladine, and the backend runs it once a day, and it pulls in today's, tomoorow's, and dat 14ths, so it catches any last minute changes |
| [22:32:15] | Paladine: | cool |
| [22:32:16] | kormoc: | Paladine, somewhere in mythtv-setup it is controled |
| [22:33:32] | Paladine: | ooo I think I am getting near the end |
| [22:33:35] | Paladine: | it is on S ;) |
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| [22:50:00] | tcpsyn: | are there any tuner cards capable of recieving digital cable? |
| [22:50:57] | GreyFoxx: | several. The problem is that most digital cable is encrypted. but you can receive whatever your provider isn't encrypting |
| [22:51:08] | GreyFoxx: | for some people that's a lot of stuff including HD |
| [22:51:13] | GreyFoxx: | for others almost nothing |
| [22:51:46] | tcpsyn: | and theres no way to know, without trying? |
| [22:51:58] | GreyFoxx: | pretty much :) |
| [22:52:12] | GreyFoxx: | there are a few sites and places that people keeps lists including on the wiki |
| [22:52:35] | GreyFoxx: | but there is no guarantee of accuracy or how long stuff will remain unencrypted |
| [22:52:38] | Inssomniak: | you can use the digital cable box and find out depending on the box |
| [22:52:51] | tcpsyn: | Inssomniak, what do you mean? |
| [22:53:08] | tcpsyn: | I have the boxes now, but they aren't for my tv. |
| [22:53:21] | Inssomniak: | mmotorola boxes you can go in and tell if the channel is encrypted or not |
| [22:53:29] | tcpsyn: | nice. |
| [22:54:02] | Inssomniak: | from what Ive found in my area on 3 different providers, the only stuff that isnt encrypted is the basic cable tier |
| [22:54:11] | Inssomniak: | everything else is |
| [22:54:21] | Inssomniak: | but all providers are different |
| [22:54:57] | tcpsyn: | damn. |
| [22:55:33] | tcpsyn: | So I'm hosed on the digital channels. |
| [22:56:10] | Inssomniak: | well, depends on your provider |
| [22:56:17] | GreyFoxx: | No, you just aren't guaranteed success |
| [22:56:19] | Inssomniak: | like GreyFoxx said some get it all |
| [22:56:26] | Inssomniak: | some get none |
| [22:56:44] | GreyFoxx: | Most people just use a STB and record the output of it |
| [22:56:48] | GreyFoxx: | that way they get all the channels |
| [22:56:56] | tcpsyn: | stb? |
| [22:57:00] | tcpsyn: | set top box? |
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| [22:57:12] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
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| [22:57:30] | GreyFoxx: | they plug the output of a STB into a capture card and use an ir blaster to change channels on it |
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| [22:57:46] | tcpsyn: | Yeah, I just don't want to pay for a third box. |
| [22:58:09] | GreyFoxx: | then you can get a card and try it, or look to see if your area |
| [22:58:16] | GreyFoxx: | 's open stuff is listed anywhere |
| [22:58:30] | GreyFoxx: | just remember there is no guarantee it with work |
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| [22:59:09] | tcpsyn: | anyone in here doing it? |
| [22:59:14] | tcpsyn: | without the stb? |
| [22:59:16] | Inssomniak: | my provider supplies me a fantastic range of the "basic" cable |
| [22:59:31] | Inssomniak: | heh |
| [22:59:41] | tcpsyn: | I want the radio mostly |
| [22:59:45] | tcpsyn: | and the porn, of course. |
| [22:59:53] | Inssomniak: | haha good luck with your quest |
| [23:01:04] | Inssomniak: | I screwed something up |
| [23:01:34] | Inssomniak: | I used the xrandr stuff for setting my tv up properly depending on HD,SD,etc, but the OSD now spills way off the screen |
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| [23:15:41] | Inssomniak: | anyone here use the xrandr feature? |
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| [23:17:58] | griswold: | Does mythtv work with video4linux2? |
| [23:18:44] | tcpsyn: | Inssomniak, I do. |
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| [23:19:21] | Inssomniak: | tcpsyn, it works well for me for tv viewing, in fact, perfectly, but the OSD is waay huge most I cant see, is there something special that you did? |
| [23:19:25] | GreyFoxx: | Inssomniak: I used it for like 5 minutes just to test it heh |
| [23:19:40] | tcpsyn: | Inssomniak, just setting the fonts to 100dpi |
| [23:19:56] | Inssomniak: | I think I have a bigger problem than that |
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| [23:20:20] | Inssomniak: | I can only see 1/4 (the upper left 1/4) of the OSD /main menu |
| [23:21:56] | crudpuppy: | you know, knoppmyth is nice and fast install, but man its a pita to work with a distro you don't know |
| [23:22:26] | tcpsyn: | its all about learning bro |
| [23:22:36] | tcpsyn: | insomniak, do different themes help? |
| [23:23:35] | GreyFoxx: | crudpuppy: then use whatever you are most familiar with :) |
| [23:24:08] | crudpuppy: | yeah I know |
| [23:24:16] | crudpuppy: | installing gentoo on the myth machine now |
| [23:24:17] | crudpuppy: | lol |
| [23:24:24] | crudpuppy: | be ready to run tomorrow sometime |
| [23:24:25] | crudpuppy: | lol |
| [23:24:50] | GreyFoxx: | to each their own :) |
| [23:24:53] | cesman: | crudpuppy: your issue is w/ getting the tuner set |
| [23:25:12] | cesman: | that isn't a KnoppMyth issue |
| [23:25:20] | crudpuppy: | yes, and no...in gentoo with a newer kernel and newer ivtv it doesnt do it |
| [23:25:36] | crudpuppy: | tried it in my main machine for the hell of it |
| [23:25:37] | crudpuppy: | lol |
| [23:25:56] | tcpsyn: | anoyone mess with the slingbox? |
| [23:26:46] | Inssomniak: | is there a way to get X to start in a specific mode? |
| [23:27:43] | tcpsyn: | what do you mean? |
| [23:27:52] | Inssomniak: | it starts in 1080i |
| [23:27:58] | Inssomniak: | I want it to start at 800x600 for the OSD |
| [23:28:58] | tcpsyn: | you could write seperate xorg.conf files and script them |
| [23:29:21] | tcpsyn: | have a osd.sh and a 1080i.sh |
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| [23:32:57] | tcpsyn: | alright, so I could buy my own digital cable box, and control that with myth. |
| [23:33:05] | tcpsyn: | thats better than renting it from comcast |
| [23:36:16] | Inssomniak: | as long as your provider will activate it |
| [23:37:25] | GreyFoxx: | not likely they will do that for free |
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| [23:41:41] | tcpsyn: | such scumbags |
| [23:42:54] | Inssomniak: | anyone know how to hide the closed caption white lines at the top of the picture? dont say crop, because its broken with interlaced images :) |
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| [23:45:23] | Paladine: | ouch thats painful |
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| [23:45:46] | Paladine: | everytime you do mythfilldatabase it does a full programme guide update? |
| [23:47:26] | GreyFoxx: | Inssomniak: Increase your overscan to get it off the screen ?:) |
| [23:49:19] | Paladine: | juski you here? |
| [23:53:57] | Inssomniak: | GreyFoxx, thats what I meant, its broken |
| [23:56:13] | Juski: | Paladine: yeah just back working on my cable |
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| [23:56:25] | Paladine: | juski, I think I have it about nailed |
| [23:56:33] | Paladine: | just doing mythfilldatabase now |
| [23:56:42] | Paladine: | if it works, then this is a sweet little piece of kit |
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| [23:56:53] | Paladine: | and to make it so much better it is jet black with a single red LED |
| [23:57:00] | Paladine: | so it looks really cool too ;) |
| [23:57:08] | caitlin: | awww, red? |
| [23:57:10] | caitlin: | not blue? |
| [23:57:23] | Paladine: | nope, red makes it seem more retro |
| [23:57:25] | Paladine: | which I like :) |
| [23:57:33] | caitlin: | yellow for full retroness |
| [23:57:42] | caitlin: | and vu meters |
| [23:58:01] | zablalbaz: | hey all...mythtv newb here |
| [23:58:06] | Juski: | oh man I hate soldering 15 way 'D' plugs |
| [23:58:10] | Paladine: | juski, lot of work setting it all up though |
| [23:58:20] | Paladine: | the controller itself was a sinch |
| [23:58:37] | Paladine: | but setting up all the channels generated by that xmltv script takes forever |
| [23:58:38] | caitlin: | i always find with those, Juski, is that i heat the pins and they melt their happy way out of the casing :P |
| [23:59:26] | Zider: | does anyone else experience lagging when switching scene in mythdvd? |
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