| Saturday, December 16th, 2006, 00:05 UTC | ||
| [00:05:27] | crudpuppy: | what voip services give out their sip info? |
| [00:05:52] | Cybertoy2: | check voip-info.org ... |
| [00:06:00] | Cybertoy2: | broadvoice.com is one I know |
| [00:07:03] | Ediehow (Ediehow!n=GooGiri@66.0.59.58) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:07:11] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [00:07:12] | Ediehow: | friends |
| [00:07:18] | Ediehow: | anyone get better performance WITHOUT xvmc? |
| [00:08:24] | Bombo_ (Bombo_!n=bombo@dslb-084-060-203-108.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:10:24] | topping (topping!n=topping@64.212.181.67) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [00:10:48] | topping (topping!n=topping@64.212.181.67) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:13:00] | kavorka^ (kavorka^!n=xxxx@203-214-122-110.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:13:41] | slowone: | how much i/o does a haupauge 500 pvr card generate when both turners are recording to disk? (meg/sec) |
| [00:16:23] | kavorka^: | hi, has anyone created a dvd via mytharchive (from a recording), only to discover there is no audio on the resulting dvd? when i play the dvd on my other pc (in xp and linux) there is audio but in mythdvd (on my mythbox) there is none, apart from the menu intro....what's going on? is it a dud dvd or a problem with mythdvd? |
| [00:16:36] | hashbang (hashbang!n=nosuch@213-152-35-50.dsl.eclipse.net.uk) has quit ("Client exiting") | |
| [00:17:02] | kavorka^: | i wish i had a standalone dvd player to test it on, but i dont unfortunately |
| [00:17:10] | tank-man: | maybe mythdvd is trying to play audio track 2 ? or 1 |
| [00:17:11] | manuleviking (manuleviking!n=Tux@ANice-151-1-4-211.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:17:50] | kavorka^: | tank-man, i think so as i read a few threads about this...so i guess the q is...how do i get to to try the other track? |
| [00:18:05] | kavorka^: | and do u think my dvd will work in a standalone? |
| [00:18:32] | tank-man: | in a standalone you can pick the tracks |
| [00:18:58] | kavorka^: | i hope so, ive made too many dvd coasters this week |
| [00:19:14] | tank-man: | play the dvd from mplayer and see what audio track it is |
| [00:19:17] | GreyFoxx: | You can chang audio tracks in the internal player |
| [00:19:18] | LLyric (LLyric!n=simon@d220-238-210-224.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:19:20] | Bombo (Bombo!i=bombo@dslb-084-060-204-015.pools.arcor-ip.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [00:19:22] | Bombo_ is now known as Bombo | |
| [00:19:29] | kavorka^: | GreyFoxx, how do i do that? |
| [00:19:59] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sure there is a short key |
| [00:20:03] | GreyFoxx: | but during playback hit m |
| [00:20:10] | GreyFoxx: | one of the options is to change audio tracks |
| [00:20:17] | kavorka^: | ok, brb ill go and have a play |
| [00:20:22] | kavorka^: | thanks guys |
| [00:22:27] | stuarta (stuarta!n=stuarta@unaffiliated/stuarta) has quit ("dead") | |
| [00:22:27] | jonty_ (jonty_!n=jonty@host-84-9-152-131.bulldogdsl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:22:53] | kavorka^: | fantastic...i changed it to track 2 and it works....this dvd is for a friend and im worried he will get no audio...so u think it will be ok? |
| [00:23:57] | tank-man: | all dvd players can palay the additional audio tracks |
| [00:24:31] | kavorka^: | tank-man, excellent..great to hear. kudos to the mytharchive developers...its a sensational piece of software |
| [00:24:44] | tank-man: | how is mytharchive? |
| [00:25:05] | Robbie (Robbie!n=a@OL221-67.fibertel.com.ar) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:25:19] | tank-man: | from start to finish, how gonl does it take? |
| [00:25:28] | kavorka^: | brilliant...i used to do everything by hand via avidemux...but this does it all for you...auto creates menu entries etc...looks so professional |
| [00:25:46] | kavorka^: | tank-man, well it depends what your going from |
| [00:26:19] | Robbie is now known as PointyPumper | |
| [00:26:20] | tank-man: | mpeg2 from pvrx50 |
| [00:26:25] | kavorka^: | for a mpeg2 recording to dvd it takes 15 minutes max...but for say a divx then it takes 2–3 hours |
| [00:26:34] | tank-man: | wow, nice |
| [00:26:47] | kavorka^: | thats becuase no reencoding is required so its qyick |
| [00:26:57] | kavorka^: | try it...its brilliant |
| [00:27:24] | tank-man: | i've tried it with mythtranscode from the command line, not from mytharchive |
| [00:27:36] | tank-man: | to take out commercials that is |
| [00:28:02] | kavorka^: | ive been using nuvexport,mythtranscode etc...but mytharchive is very good now |
| [00:28:20] | kavorka^: | i still use nuvexport if i want to create a divx from a mpg2 recording though |
| [00:28:30] | kavorka^: | via avidemux to take out commercials |
| [00:31:45] | ille (ille!n=ille@pdpc/supporter/student/ille) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [00:33:18] | Ediehow: | hi GreyFoxx |
| [00:33:29] | Ediehow: | does xvmc make performance go down for some people? |
| [00:36:55] | daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@72.173.30.109) has quit (Client Quit) | |
| [00:47:44] | thunder (thunder!n=uhuttere@84-245-188-119.dus.bpool.celox.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:55:58] | daviey (daviey!n=mythtv@cpc1-sout2-0-0-cust111.sotn.cable.ntl.com) has quit (Success) | |
| [00:59:02] | kormoc: | Ediehow, sure can |
| [00:59:35] | jblack: | kavorka^: mytharchive works for you? |
| [01:03:30] | kavorka^: | jblack, yes it foes...and very well too |
| [01:03:53] | kavorka^: | does* |
| [01:04:17] | Ediehow: | kormoc: my livetv seems to be more problematic than before |
| [01:04:45] | kavorka^: | Ediehow, why do use xvmc? what cpu do u have? |
| [01:05:01] | kormoc: | Ediehow, it's very northbridge dependant |
| [01:05:35] | kormoc: | kavorka^, XvMC is great for nvidia cards, as if it works, it uses the video card to offset some of the mpeg-2 playback from the cpu |
| [01:05:38] | daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@72.173.30.109) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:06:26] | kavorka^: | kormoc, thats true...but its more hassle than its worth...id just bite the bullet and get a faster cpu |
| [01:06:41] | kavorka^: | theres too many side effects that turn me off it |
| [01:06:55] | kormoc: | kavorka^, not always. I've had really good luck myself, as has others |
| [01:07:21] | kavorka^: | kormoc, the osd greyscale and stuttering really turned me off |
| [01:07:56] | kormoc: | kavorka^, personally, XvMC removes studdering, and the grey OSD has fixes for certain cards |
| [01:08:23] | kavorka^: | yeah unfornately i have a 6200 |
| [01:08:36] | kavorka^: | unfortunately* |
| [01:08:54] | kormoc: | I have a 6200 as well, what's your north bridge? |
| [01:09:25] | kavorka^: | kormoc, northbridge? is that referring to cpu? |
| [01:10:21] | kormoc: | kavorka^, no, that's a chip on the motherboard that helps the cpu talk to the other components in the computer |
| [01:10:41] | kormoc: | kavorka^, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northbridge_(computing) |
| [01:11:32] | kavorka^: | kormoc, nope i'd say not...im using a compaq en, 400fsb...m/b is pretty crappy, so i'd say no |
| [01:12:24] | kavorka^: | you know the ones...alot of offices have this model...slimline...look nice..crap hardware though |
| [01:13:11] | kormoc: | still has a north bridge, it has to (unless it's certain newer amd cpus) |
| [01:13:25] | tracy_: | kormoc: do u run mythtv on gentoo? |
| [01:13:29] | kormoc: | yes I do |
| [01:13:50] | tracy_: | good/bad idea? |
| [01:13:56] | jonty_ (jonty_!n=jonty@host-84-9-152-131.bulldogdsl.com) has quit (Client Quit) | |
| [01:13:59] | kormoc: | I like it |
| [01:14:17] | kavorka^: | kormoc, interesting |
| [01:14:19] | kormoc: | but then, I'm decently good at linux and well versed in gentoo |
| [01:15:05] | kormoc: | kavorka^, the slowdown seems to be when the videocard accesses main memory (via the north bridge). sometimes there's a bit of a delay on each pci clock tick, which leads to the studdering. |
| [01:15:27] | tracy_: | 64 bit gentoo kormoc? |
| [01:15:56] | kormoc: | tracy_, Aye, I have a remote frontend on 64 bit, and the backend and local frontend on 32 bit, both work fine |
| [01:17:03] | tracy_: | ok, think my next attempt will be 64 bit on an amd 64 +3000... lets see if gentoo on that box will allow me to play HD |
| [01:17:44] | kavorka^: | kormoc, sounds about right...considering i have a p4 2.4....but renicing X by -2 or -3 has a huge effect |
| [01:18:04] | kavorka^: | ie cpu goes from 100% down to 40% |
| [01:20:20] | Inssomniak (Inssomniak!n=Dave@206-248-139-111.dsl.teksavvy.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [01:24:56] | crudpuppy (crudpuppy!n=someone@71-14-98-219.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) has quit () | |
| [01:28:32] | fiveiron: | anyone have an IR Blaster working with mythtv? |
| [01:29:47] | sc00p_ (sc00p_!n=oldendic@cpe-071-076-001-155.sc.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:35:25] | sc00p (sc00p!n=oldendic@cpe-071-076-036-043.sc.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [01:38:37] | fiveiron: | ugh... is anyone even using an IR Blaster? |
| [01:43:01] | Ediehow: | kormoc: you've had problems with livetv when using xvmc? |
| [01:43:33] | kormoc: | Ediehow, I have not personally, but others have |
| [01:43:45] | kormoc: | fiveiron, sure people have |
| [01:44:24] | fiveiron: | kormoc: on ubuntu? cause all the other tuts i've looked at are for something like fedora core, and I apparently don't have a kernel module to install.... |
| [01:45:18] | neddy (neddy!n=js152033@192.18.43.225) has quit ("Leaving.") | |
| [01:45:27] | kormoc: | fiveiron, you likely need to compile one |
| [01:51:40] | Exstatica (Exstatica!i=exstatic@redline.mednor.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:52:23] | scott_ (scott_!n=scott_@cpe-66-74-236-252.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [01:52:35] | kavorka^ (kavorka^!n=xxxx@203-214-122-110.dyn.iinet.net.au) has left #mythtv-users ("Client exiting") | |
| [02:05:01] | fiveiron: | uh... ok i'm trying to compile lirc in ubuntu and it says i need the kernel source installed. I've installed every package that in any way resembles the linux kernel source and its still giving me that message.... what is it wanting??? |
| [02:06:02] | Cybertoy2: | maybe the kernel source is in the wrong directory? |
| [02:07:13] | fiveiron: | its in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17–10 |
| [02:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know how they name the kernel source but "headers" implies it's only the include headers and not the full source |
| [02:09:41] | fiveiron: | hmm... it seems that maybe installing the source package only downloaded the source bzipped file |
| [02:10:14] | xris: | fyi, if anyone hears of people having trouble getting nuvexport, my servers are down. blackout over half of seattle, no ETA on when it'll be fixed. |
| [02:10:30] | GreyFoxx: | xris: k |
| [02:10:37] | fiveiron: | yeah... hows that going anyway? you guys are having like an ice hurricane up there |
| [02:10:49] | xris: | forevermore.net is gone completely since even my secondary dns is gone. |
| [02:11:08] | PacketScan: | editmy |
| [02:11:36] | GreyFoxx: | xris: doh |
| [02:11:56] | tracy_: | xris, did you write nuvexport also? |
| [02:12:07] | xris: | yes |
| [02:12:16] | tracy_: | cool, good job |
| [02:12:34] | tracy_: | u know a question is gonna come ;) |
| [02:12:47] | toad-six (toad-six!n=toadsix@c-69-142-219-14.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:13:03] | xris: | GreyFoxx: yeah. nasty windstorm. blew down my fence. |
| [02:13:04] | toad-six: | is there anybody here that uses a genpix tuner? |
| [02:13:51] | kormoc: | fiveiron, ice hurricane? that would be amusing :P |
| [02:13:51] | GreyFoxx: | xris: Wow |
| [02:14:14] | kormoc: | fiveiron, tis only a storm with some strong winds and a little rain and lightning |
| [02:15:45] | fiveiron: | kormoc: well they're saying on all the news stations that its going to become a bad ice storm |
| [02:16:31] | kormoc: | we're expecting a little snow later this weekend, but no ice (that I've heard about yet) |
| [02:17:39] | kormoc: | they're not forcasting freezing temptures at all in the 10 day extended forcast |
| [02:32:26] | seth|zaurus (seth|zaurus!n=seth|zau@oh-71-0-6-72.sta.embarqhsd.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:36:40] | kambei (kambei!n=kambei@c-66-31-201-57.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:42:37] | phrozen77_ (phrozen77_!n=phrozen7@pD9EC6655.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:44:32] | xris (xris!n=xris@dsl081-161-160.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has quit ("http://forevermore.net/") | |
| [02:46:19] | tank-man: | sunny up here in vancouver :) |
| [02:46:37] | tank-man: | j/k |
| [02:49:49] | seth|zaurus: | quiet tonight |
| [02:50:39] | phrozen77__ (phrozen77__!n=phrozen7@pD9EC70F0.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
| [02:51:11] | seth|zaurus (seth|zaurus!n=seth|zau@oh-71-0-6-72.sta.embarqhsd.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [02:54:17] | fiveiron: | is anyone using lirc in ubuntu? |
| [02:57:21] | topping_ (topping_!n=topping@207.47.6.182.static.nextweb.net) has quit () | |
| [02:57:53] | tank-man: | why would it matter what distro? |
| [02:58:54] | fiveiron: | because i'm trying to install the precompile package |
| [02:59:08] | fiveiron: | and I'm using a serial port IR receiver |
| [02:59:24] | fiveiron: | and i really don't want to have to recompile my kernel just to use this receiver |
| [02:59:24] | jasta (jasta!n=jasta@spotlight.pacificlightingsystems.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:59:24] | jasta (jasta!n=jasta@spotlight.pacificlightingsystems.com) has quit (Client Quit) | |
| [03:00:11] | tank-man: | so just compile a module |
| [03:01:31] | fiveiron: | ? |
| [03:01:41] | fiveiron: | thats what I tried |
| [03:02:15] | fiveiron: | and the tutorial led me through downloading the kernel source, running "make config" (which seemed to me like a process for compiling a kernel) |
| [03:04:22] | tank-man: | that is |
| [03:04:31] | tank-man: | no |
| [03:04:36] | fiveiron: | so how would i just compile a module to load into my current kernel? |
| [03:04:44] | tank-man: | just make modules, not make bzimage or whatever |
| [03:04:55] | tank-man: | configure it then make modules |
| [03:05:03] | tank-man: | make menuconfig |
| [03:05:04] | fiveiron: | lirc? |
| [03:05:08] | tank-man: | yea |
| [03:05:08] | fiveiron: | or the kernel source? |
| [03:05:29] | tank-man: | uncompress the lirc sources somewhere |
| [03:05:42] | tank-man: | and uncompress the kernel source somewhere like /usr/src |
| [03:05:51] | tank-man: | and symlink it to /usr/src/linux |
| [03:06:30] | fiveiron: | yeah thats what I did |
| [03:06:46] | tank-man: | now read the install text for lirc |
| [03:11:01] | fiveiron: | the install text doesn't say how to compile the module? |
| [03:11:06] | fiveiron: | i need lirc_serial |
| [03:12:24] | fiveiron: | uh |
| [03:12:36] | fiveiron: | and "make" returns about a billion errors on me |
| [03:15:30] | Led-Hed (Led-Hed!n=Led-Hed@209.209.124.226) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [03:17:27] | grantm_ (grantm_!n=grantm@kolob.wingateservices.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:18:19] | fiveiron: | this is the most frustrating thing i've done |
| [03:18:38] | grantm (grantm!n=grantm@kolob.wingateservices.com) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [03:20:44] | Ediehow (Ediehow!n=GooGiri@66.0.59.58) has quit ("Sho Ryu Ken") | |
| [03:20:45] | fiveiron: | #$@#$@^ |
| [03:21:38] | lotia (lotia!n=lotia@c-69-246-94-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:22:42] | fiveiron: | is there a better chatroom to discuss lirc issues, cause this is pissing me off |
| [03:25:09] | rtsai (rtsai!n=rtsai@c-71-202-145-253.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit ("leaving") | |
| [03:26:12] | lotia (lotia!n=lotia@c-69-246-94-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has quit (Client Quit) | |
| [03:26:24] | lotia (lotia!n=lotia@c-69-246-94-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:32:25] | fiveiron: | dangit... make frigging blows up and generates like 5000 lines of errors and i have no idea what to look for to fix |
| [03:32:31] | fiveiron: | this blows |
| [03:33:46] | toad-six (toad-six!n=toadsix@c-69-142-219-14.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has quit (Connection timed out) | |
| [03:34:29] | AndyCap (AndyCap!n=aoy@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/AndyCap) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
| [03:35:33] | nuonguy (nuonguy!n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit ("Leaving.") | |
| [03:37:00] | bjohnson (bjohnson!n=bjohnson@i209-195-77-55.cia.com) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [03:37:36] | sandeen (sandeen!n=sandeen@sandeen.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:39:26] | fiveiron: | tank-man: should i just be able to "make modules" in the kernel source and then load the lirc_serial module? |
| [03:40:22] | jsheedy (jsheedy!n=jsheedy@207.179.216.183) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:42:08] | AndyCap (AndyCap!n=aoy@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/AndyCap) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:42:58] | jsheedy (jsheedy!n=jsheedy@207.179.216.183) has left #mythtv-users () | |
| [03:45:24] | Zyxus (Zyxus!n=michal@24-51-92-117.kntnny.adelphia.net) has left #mythtv-users ("window") | |
| [03:47:09] | Cybertoy2 (Cybertoy2!n=maxim@dsl254-123-131.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has quit ("Leaving.") | |
| [03:48:11] | sandeen: | bah. dvd playback is -worse- with xvmc? :( |
| [03:53:32] | GreyFoxx: | Can't say I've ever tried it |
| [03:53:46] | GreyFoxx: | but then other than 5 seconds of testing every once in awhile I never turn xvmc on |
| [04:05:27] | Dr_willis (Dr_willis!n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:14:49] | levander: | What's the most widely used mythtv mailing list / web forum? |
| [04:16:23] | levander: | Has anyone in here hooked up there myth box to a digital cable box? I'm kind of wondering what the point is of myth if you have to have a cable box for digital cable anyway. |
| [04:18:38] | Dr_willis: | To record shows.... for one. :) |
| [04:18:51] | Dr_willis: | My Dig. box dont have PVR features. |
| [04:20:07] | levander: | Dr_willis: the only cable box from Comcast (my local cable provider) that has a Firewire port is the DCT6412, which is a PVR. |
| [04:20:22] | levander: | But, that said, I'm aware MythTV is better than Comcasts DVR software. |
| [04:20:52] | Dr_willis: | of course ive always found using a dig. box + other things a hassle. |
| [04:21:21] | levander: | Dr_willis: you don't run your digital cable box through your myth box? |
| [04:21:25] | Dr_willis: | I dont even have dig. cable any more for the tv. got sick of the extra $$ they were charging me. |
| [04:21:53] | levander: | Dr_willis: yeah, that sounds like most people's solution to digital cable and mythtv |
| [04:22:10] | Dr_willis: | My TV tuner card has that IRblaster so it Could change channels on the Dig. box. |
| [04:22:32] | Dr_willis: | 'supposubly' some day there will be some sort of digital cable card that ya can get/use.. but no idea on those. |
| [04:22:50] | Dr_willis: | Even a lot of the special features on the new tv's dont work right with the dig cable box's |
| [04:22:56] | Dr_willis: | Piciture in Pic. ect... |
| [04:23:15] | WeberGlinux (WeberGlinux!n=WeberG@c-67-175-65-145.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [04:23:36] | tank-man (tank-man!i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [04:23:53] | levander: | Dr_willis: CableCard is already out, but the signal it decodes can't go over an open bus. So, there's no PCI card that will fit in a computer that can take a CableCard. |
| [04:24:25] | Dr_willis: | levander, so the big 'fix' people have been going on about – is still not useable for most people. :) |
| [04:24:39] | levander: | Dr_willis: when you change channels with the IR Blaster, are you able to store the video outputted from the digital cable box onto the mythtv hard drive? |
| [04:24:42] | Dr_willis: | I dont see myself getting anything that uses CableCard anytime soon. |
| [04:25:14] | Dr_willis: | levander, ive not tried it. i would assume you must be using the video in on the tv card from the video out of the Dig. box. |
| [04:26:25] | levander: | Dr_willis: If you're not capturing the video output from the cable box, what's the point of changing channels using the IR blaster? Why not just use the remote control to change the channels? |
| [04:27:14] | Dr_willis: | Its capturign the video out over the 'video out' like.. thats goignm to the video in on the tuner card... |
| [04:28:08] | Dr_willis: | so ya would program it say at 5:00PM to change to channel 40 and record for 1 hr.. and the irblaster would send the ir signles. I guess thats how it would work. |
| [04:28:25] | radi0head (radi0head!n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) has quit ("Restarting X brb.") | |
| [04:28:46] | levander: | Dr_willis: ah, i see – so these people aren't even using Firewire then... |
| [04:28:58] | Dr_willis: | I dont know what firewire would have to do with it at all... |
| [04:29:07] | Dr_willis: | Unless it was to let you Upload home movies to the thing. |
| [04:29:32] | Dr_willis: | Or that box had some REAL nice features that let it send video over firewire |
| [04:29:41] | GreyFoxx: | You can record from the firewire output of the digital box |
| [04:29:52] | GreyFoxx: | And with most use firewire to change channels too |
| [04:30:02] | Dr_willis: | That has potential then GreyFoxx |
| [04:30:03] | levander: | Dr_willis: you can connect your cable box to a myth box with a firewire cable. Then, (if all the software works with all the hardware right) you can change channels on the cable box via firewire, as well as capture video onto the myth box via the firewire. |
| [04:30:06] | GreyFoxx: | assuming your provider doesn't disable it |
| [04:30:22] | levander: | Dr_willis: yeah, some digital cable boxes have that real nice feature |
| [04:30:27] | Dr_willis: | but it seems like somthing that good would really get the Movie/Stations mad.. since it would give a VERY good recording. :) |
| [04:30:52] | levander: | Dr_willis: but, they've started encoding that FireWire video with an algorithm called 5C. So, that way may be dying off. I'm not sure. |
| [04:31:20] | Dr_willis: | Yep.. amazing the crud they do to keep us from 'watching' shows the way we want to. |
| [04:31:30] | daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@72.173.30.109) has quit (Client Quit) | |
| [04:31:33] | levander: | Dr_willis: there was some law for some reason awhile back that said you couldn't encode the firewire signal, I guess that law has been overridden somehow though. |
| [04:31:41] | Dr_willis: | treat us all as 'cows' for their cash milking needs. |
| [04:31:59] | levander: | Dr_willis: no kidding, they're desperate to protect their antiquated business model. |
| [04:32:05] | Dr_willis: | then theres the new cable things like hdmi, and so on. |
| [04:32:12] | Dr_willis: | levander, yep.. Like the Music Industry |
| [04:32:40] | Dr_willis: | and they wonder why people download torrents of shows instead of watching/recording them |
| [04:34:08] | Dr_willis: | The only feature my wife wants on this MythTV box – that was On the Digi. Cable box.. was a blackjack game she liked to play. |
| [04:34:09] | Dr_willis: | :) |
| [04:34:21] | Dr_willis: | can mysol be set to use the remote? heh heh |
| [04:34:25] | Dr_willis: | oops PySol |
| [04:34:48] | levander: | Dr_willis: when you say connect the video out on the cable box to the video in on the myth box, where do you connect it on the myth box? Is there a Component in on some tuner cards or something? |
| [04:35:18] | Dr_willis: | levander, this 150 Haugpage card has SVIDEO in, , an RCA in, and an AUdio in |
| [04:35:26] | Dr_willis: | I guess others have differnt inputs also. |
| [04:35:40] | Dr_willis: | and I got a rather low end card. :) |
| [04:35:52] | Dr_willis: | and of course the CoAx in for the tv signal. |
| [04:36:36] | levander: | Dr_willis: i just looked, the card I'm thinking I'm going to get, the Hauppage 500 has an S-Video in also. |
| [04:36:57] | Dr_willis: | I couldent find a 500 at the stores. |
| [04:37:11] | Dr_willis: | the 150 was $99 – about 50 in rebates.. :) |
| [04:37:21] | Dr_willis: | so for $50 i got a 150 + remote.. Not bad. |
| [04:37:36] | Dr_willis: | I may go pick up another to build a 2nd myth box. |
| [04:38:22] | Dr_willis: | I know the wife will Steal this box once she learns it can record her lifetime movies and zap the comercials |
| [04:39:00] | radi0head (radi0head!n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:39:29] | PiranhaP (PiranhaP!n=Piranha@ip70-185-128-223.lu.dl.cox.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [04:39:48] | levander: | I mail order my hardware, I find it a lot easier than running around to all the stores. |
| [04:40:51] | Dr_willis: | I was looking for an ATI remote – not even looking for a card.. but saw the tuners on sale. |
| [04:41:13] | Dr_willis: | been using GeeXboX on a machine for a simple video player. wanted a remote for it.. |
| [04:42:07] | PiranhaP (PiranhaP!n=Piranha@ip70-185-128-223.lu.dl.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:47:11] | Dr_willis: | KICK booty.. i just learnd how to 'stream' from my MythTV box :) to other pc's heh heh |
| [04:48:17] | kormoc: | you can also have multiple frontends to a single backend, and multiple backends (and multiple cards in each backend) |
| [04:48:35] | Dr_willis: | yea.. i dident quite get MythTV front end isntlled right on this Ubuntu box. |
| [04:48:56] | Dr_willis: | ive been using GeeXbox live cd on an old laptop – as a video player in the backroom. |
| [04:49:03] | kormoc: | keep in mind, every computer needs to run *exactly* the same version of myth |
| [04:49:20] | kormoc: | so ubuntu's myth might not work with fedora's |
| [04:49:27] | Dr_willis: | for a 50mb live cd GeeXbox is very impressive. wonder if it could work as a front end for just playing. |
| [04:49:40] | ** Dr_willis is watching "The Grinch that stole Xmas" :) ** | |
| [04:49:49] | Dr_willis: | "all the whos in whoville" |
| [04:51:18] | Dr_willis: | Now the "Next" big thing i need to figure out – is a nice easy way to convert the recorded shows to a format i canuse on the PSP. |
| [04:51:36] | kormoc: | nivexport has the ability to export to PSP format |
| [04:51:43] | kormoc: | *nuvexport |
| [04:51:47] | Dr_willis: | Kicking. :) |
| [04:51:58] | kormoc: | but nuvexport's website is currently down, as a good chunk of seattle loss power |
| [04:52:12] | Dr_willis: | yea – a few months ago psp converting was a bit of voodoo... |
| [04:52:32] | Dr_willis: | i got vmware + win98 setup + some tools to do it.. heh. |
| [04:52:38] | Dr_willis: | then i found a few linux front ends |
| [05:11:56] | kambei (kambei!n=kambei@c-66-31-201-57.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [05:15:37] | kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@dsl081-161-160.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has quit ("Done with work, yay! ( http://www.openbash.org )") | |
| [05:15:50] | toad-six (toad-six!n=toadsix@c-69-142-219-14.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:16:19] | k-man__: | how do i stop mythfilldatabase adding channels to mythtv when it grabs data? |
| [05:18:04] | pat_ (pat_!n=pat@cust4082.qld01.aanet.com.au) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [05:21:49] | pat_ (pat_!n=pat@cust4082.qld01.aanet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:22:14] | Gumby (Gumby!n=terry@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:23:00] | ectospasm (ectospasm!n=ectospas@adsl-146-237-69.mob.bellsouth.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:23:14] | WeberGlinux (WeberGlinux!n=WeberG@c-67-175-65-145.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:41:52] | Viking1 (Viking1!n=viking1@cpe-69-133-46-212.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:42:16] | Gumby (Gumby!n=terry@unaffiliated/gumby) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [05:44:52] | Gumby (Gumby!n=terry@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:47:01] | stuart_ (stuart_!i=user249@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:48:04] | buckley5 (buckley5!n=mythtv@216-161-132-60.dlth.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:50:03] | buckley5: | Anybody good with getting the audio up and running? I've got a pixelview board where I've got video, but can't get audio from the audio out on the board, i've bot the snd-bt87x loaded, and it recognizes my card, but no matter how I set it, fuser -v /dev/dsp shows the mythbackend using it, where /dev/dsp1 has nothing using it. Trying to redirect using dd as a test doesn't seem to have any effect either. |
| [05:53:17] | croppa (croppa!n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [05:56:51] | exobyte (exobyte!n=exobyte@69-12-143-197.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:57:11] | ectospasm: | buckley5: what are your mixer levels set at? Try alsamixer and see if master or PCM is muted |
| [05:59:58] | manuleviking: | bye bye |
| [06:00:00] | manuleviking (manuleviking!n=Tux@ANice-151-1-4-211.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) has left #mythtv-users ("Konversation terminated!") | |
| [06:05:46] | buckley5: | mixer levels in alsamixer are all pretty close to max |
| [06:06:35] | buckley5: | I've heard some of these pixelview cards have really quiet audio, but I would think with everything maxed out I'd at least be able to tell |
| [06:06:59] | buckley5: | ok, I've got myth using dsp1 now, still no audio |
| [06:07:29] | Viking1 (Viking1!n=viking1@cpe-69-133-46-212.cinci.res.rr.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [06:07:48] | exobyte: | I installed mythtv on a box. I want to configure the frontend to work on another machine, but it tries to access (unsucessfully) my current one |
| [06:09:38] | buckley5: | in the setup side, replace 127.0.0.1 with the IP of the other machine |
| [06:10:06] | exobyte: | buckley5: where is this? I just get errors on the console when I run mythfrontend |
| [06:10:56] | buckley5: | mythTV Setup – the initial setup where you designate the input card and the program guide location, etc. |
| [06:11:14] | buckley5: | its a separate program from the usual frontend |
| [06:12:52] | exobyte: | buckley5: mythtv-setup is complaining about not being able to connect to the mysql db |
| [06:13:05] | pat_ (pat_!n=pat@cust4082.qld01.aanet.com.au) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [06:15:12] | buckley5: | how did you install myth where it didn't set up a mysql db? |
| [06:15:32] | exobyte: | uhhh |
| [06:15:42] | exobyte: | I figured I didn't need it |
| [06:15:46] | exobyte: | and, umm |
| [06:16:28] | juski: | whoops |
| [06:17:09] | buckley5: | I think it needs to be there, just to store the configuration stuff |
| [06:17:35] | stuart_ is now known as croppa | |
| [06:17:38] | buckley5: | But I'm here to ask questions- I'm by no means an authoritative source |
| [06:18:03] | buckley5: | It took me all day to figure out how to hack my tuner for video |
| [06:18:04] | juski: | buckley5: you're right |
| [06:20:26] | ille (ille!n=ille@pdpc/supporter/student/ille) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:20:48] | pat_ (pat_!n=pat@cust4082.qld01.aanet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:31:35] | Dr_willis: | egads... its amazing the # of shows ive tagged to be recorded... |
| [06:31:45] | Dr_willis: | and some of them i may even watch! |
| [06:46:41] | exobyte: | hmmm... when |
| [06:46:48] | exobyte: | I go to watch TV, it's black |
| [06:47:39] | exobyte: | and then it goes back to the menu |
| [06:57:23] | Dr_willis: | dont have the right tv card selexted.. would be my guess.. rerun mythtv-setup |
| [06:57:29] | Dr_willis (Dr_willis!n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving") | |
| [07:03:40] | buckley5 (buckley5!n=mythtv@216-161-132-60.dlth.qwest.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [07:13:56] | thunder (thunder!n=uhuttere@84-245-188-119.dus.bpool.celox.de) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [07:22:52] | scott_ (scott_!n=scott_@cpe-66-74-236-252.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:23:31] | scott_: | hi – are all override available settings for mythfrontend -O ... listed somewhere? |
| [07:38:47] | Anduin (Anduin!n=awithers@adsl-69-110-34-171.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:53:42] | topping_ (topping_!n=topping@207.47.6.182.static.nextweb.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:59:39] | toad-six (toad-six!n=toadsix@c-69-142-219-14.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [08:19:12] | at0m|c (at0m|c!n=at0m@d51520B61.access.telenet.be) has quit (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
| [08:19:14] | bagpuss_thecat (bagpuss_thecat!n=bagpuss_@lodge.glasgownet.com) has quit (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
| [08:19:15] | o_cee (o_cee!n=oscar@c83-249-96-144.bredband.comhem.se) has quit (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
| [08:23:01] | o_cee (o_cee!n=oscar@c83-249-96-144.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [08:23:01] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v o_cee | |
| [08:24:24] | at0m (at0m!n=at0m@d51520B61.access.telenet.be) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [08:24:33] | at0m is now known as at0m|c | |
| [08:40:17] | juski: | mornin' |
| [08:49:44] | topping_ (topping_!n=topping@207.47.6.182.static.nextweb.net) has quit () | |
| [09:08:11] | majesty (majesty!n=majesty@weston-69.65.85.170.myacc.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:13:26] | hashbang (hashbang!n=nosuch@213-152-35-50.dsl.eclipse.net.uk) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:21:49] | Zider (Zider!i=zider@c-dd9c72d5.031-30-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [09:21:52] | Zider (Zider!i=zider@c-dd9c72d5.031-30-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:23:12] | Ediehow (Ediehow!n=GooGiri@66.0.59.58) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:23:21] | Ediehow: | help, the stupid dishnetwork screen saver is ruining my recordings that go through 3am:( |
| [09:25:27] | jrr_ (jrr_!i=jrr@kearny.dreamhost.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:26:23] | jrr (jrr!i=jrr@kearny.dreamhost.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [09:29:55] | [1]majesty ([1]majesty!n=majesty@weston-69.65.85.170.myacc.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:34:26] | [1]majesty ([1]majesty!n=majesty@weston-69.65.85.170.myacc.net) has quit (Client Quit) | |
| [09:39:47] | jblack: | your cablebox has a screensaver? |
| [09:44:29] | majesty (majesty!n=majesty@weston-69.65.85.170.myacc.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [09:45:47] | bagpuss_thecat (bagpuss_thecat!n=bagpuss_@lodge.glasgownet.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:49:32] | Ediehow: | STB |
| [09:49:40] | Paladine: | what to buy |
| [09:50:02] | Paladine: | jblack, my set top dvd disk changer has a built in screensaver |
| [09:59:39] | toad-six (toad-six!n=toadsix@c-69-142-219-14.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:00:19] | phrozen77_ (phrozen77_!n=phrozen7@pD9EC6655.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit ("Some people say that I must be a horrible person, but that's not true. I have the heart of a young boy... in a jar... on my d) | |
| [10:02:42] | PiranhaP (PiranhaP!n=Piranha@ip70-185-128-223.lu.dl.cox.net) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [10:03:24] | Ediehow (Ediehow!n=GooGiri@66.0.59.58) has quit ("Sho Ryu Ken") | |
| [10:05:23] | LLLyric (LLLyric!n=simon@d58-104-35-101.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:05:32] | LLLyric (LLLyric!n=simon@d58-104-35-101.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [10:05:44] | LLLyric (LLLyric!n=simon@d58-104-35-101.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:07:03] | LLyric (LLyric!n=simon@d220-238-210-224.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [10:10:18] | NAiL: | I've run into problems compiling the backend again.. http://de.pastebin.ca/280969 |
| [10:10:24] | Paladine (Paladine!n=Paladine@paladine.org.uk) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [10:10:31] | NAiL: | Anyone know how to fix? |
| [10:11:46] | LLLyric (LLLyric!n=simon@d58-104-35-101.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [10:12:03] | LLyric (LLyric!n=simon@d58-104-35-101.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:13:32] | Neeesat25 (Neeesat25!n=neosat@87.228.219.109) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:13:45] | Neeesat25: | Hello to all |
| [10:14:11] | Neeesat25: | I have problem running some dvd movies on mythtv. I am using the internal dvd player. |
| [10:14:31] | Neeesat25: | Is it better to use external ones? |
| [10:16:29] | Neeesat25: | Anyone around? |
| [10:20:19] | briand (briand!n=brian@c-68-35-194-216.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
| [10:24:24] | Gumby (Gumby!n=terry@unaffiliated/gumby) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [10:25:51] | briand (briand!n=brian@c-68-35-194-216.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:26:23] | Gumby (Gumby!n=terry@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:34:10] | juski: | I use xine, always have |
| [10:35:56] | Neeesat25: | Juski do you compile it with special features? |
| [10:36:13] | Neeesat25: | Or just a package install of xine-ui? |
| [10:37:55] | juski: | just xine-ui |
| [10:38:37] | Neeesat25: | any special settings is dvd settings? |
| [10:39:14] | juski: | not that I'm aware of |
| [10:42:40] | Neeesat25: | just set the player to xine? |
| [10:42:49] | juski: | aye |
| [10:44:52] | juski: | xine -pfhq foobar etc etc etc |
| [10:47:19] | Neeesat25: | xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd:/? |
| [10:47:34] | juski: | something like that. I'm a bit fuzzy today |
| [10:48:04] | Neeesat25: | ok juski, Thanks |
| [10:48:52] | sphenxes (sphenxes!n=sphenxes@85-125-226-220.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving") | |
| [10:56:45] | juski: | my pesky frontend is still insisting on being daft & not outputting to spdif. it's really pissing me off now |
| [11:19:41] | nuonguy (nuonguy!n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [11:44:38] | Zider (Zider!i=zider@c-dd9c72d5.031-30-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [11:48:16] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [11:48:38] | Blaksmith: | hi.. future user here... :) hope ya don't mind if I idle till I get it set up |
| [11:54:38] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [12:04:24] | stuarta (stuarta!n=stuarta@unaffiliated/stuarta) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:04:25] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v stuarta | |
| [12:04:36] | stuarta: | afternoon all |
| [12:18:41] | jams (jams!n=jams@CPE-72-131-6-174.wi.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [12:19:17] | jams (jams!n=jams@CPE-72-131-6-174.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:19:18] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v jams | |
| [12:25:28] | sigger_2_ (sigger_2_!n=Sigger@ool-44c0a897.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [12:28:41] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:30:45] | turbo (turbo!n=brian@c-68-35-194-216.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:30:47] | briand (briand!n=brian@c-68-35-194-216.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [12:31:31] | tcpsyn: | anyone ever have a hard time compiling ffmpeg under debian? |
| [12:33:07] | stuarta: | nope |
| [12:33:13] | Blaksmith: | never tried |
| [12:33:23] | stuarta: | compiles just fine |
| [12:33:31] | tcpsyn: | I can't get it to compile, I'm sure I'm missing some dependency, but I dont know what it is |
| [12:33:44] | stuarta: | pastebin the error |
| [12:36:10] | tcpsyn: | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/R66WAE88.html |
| [12:37:04] | stuarta: | what kernel are you compiling against? |
| [12:37:24] | tcpsyn: | 2.6.19 |
| [12:38:02] | stuarta: | i'd suspect there's an incompatible kernel header change. try installing the headers from an earlier version |
| [12:38:32] | stuarta: | generally don't need the latest headers unless you require new features |
| [12:38:33] | tcpsyn: | I can do that without wrecking my current kernel? |
| [12:38:35] | uhuttere (uhuttere!n=uhuttere@87.193.40.76) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:38:58] | stuarta: | the debian packages drop the headers in /usr/src |
| [12:39:23] | stuarta: | did you hand install that kernel? |
| [12:39:29] | tcpsyn: | yea |
| [12:39:36] | tcpsyn: | I can install the binary ffmpeg |
| [12:39:40] | fiveiron: | stuarta: i have a q for u |
| [12:39:45] | tcpsyn: | but that doesn't include mp3 support |
| [12:39:52] | tcpsyn: | for mythstreamtv |
| [12:40:28] | stuarta: | you are going to need an earlier set of headers, won't need the kernel, just the headers. |
| [12:40:35] | fiveiron: | i'm trying to build the lirc_serial kernel module for my serial port IR receiver |
| [12:41:43] | stuarta: | mmm... |
| [12:45:18] | fiveiron: | know of a good tut? |
| [12:47:07] | stuarta: | nope. never got it working myself. haven't had the need |
| [12:51:41] | tcpsyn: | i just ordered a reciever |
| [12:52:10] | fiveiron: | gah.... i just figured it out |
| [12:53:40] | turbo is now known as briand | |
| [12:53:52] | fiveiron: | there needs to be better documentation on that project |
| [12:54:25] | tcpsyn: | fiveiron, start writing |
| [12:59:02] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [13:01:32] | Zyxus (Zyxus!n=michal@24-51-92-117.kntnny.adelphia.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:08:33] | croppa (croppa!i=user249@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has quit ("Konversation terminated!") | |
| [13:11:06] | epoch (epoch!i=epoch@octane.breakbeats.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:11:18] | stuarta: | fiveiron: what was it? |
| [13:11:49] | fiveiron: | i had to have the lirc sources extracted to /usr/src if i didnt, make would bomb like crazy |
| [13:11:56] | nelius (nelius!n=nelius@pD9E0D979.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:12:09] | fiveiron: | lirc sources = lirc kernel module sources |
| [13:13:53] | nelius: | what is the best way to setup xmltv with dvb? |
| [13:14:31] | juski: | scan first, add xmltvids later. that's what I do |
| [13:14:44] | nelius: | with mythfilldatabase --manual ? |
| [13:14:52] | juski: | nah |
| [13:15:22] | stuarta: | hiya juski! |
| [13:15:32] | nelius: | how than? |
| [13:15:35] | juski: | hey stuarta. not so loud please ;) |
| [13:15:49] | stuarta: | xmas party last night? |
| [13:16:08] | juski: | aye |
| [13:16:18] | juski: | started falling asleep at the table.. not good |
| [13:16:48] | stuarta: | sounds as bad as my effort the other week. |
| [13:16:52] | juski: | was home by midnight, and gonna do it all again tonight – hopefully without the falling asleep |
| [13:17:06] | nelius: | juski: did i get you right, that mythfilldatabase --manual is _NOT_ the right method? |
| [13:17:09] | juski: | we went to a proper pub first |
| [13:17:16] | juski: | nelius: I dunno. I just never use that |
| [13:17:32] | juski: | I mangle files myself |
| [13:17:58] | nelius: | you just assign some id's in the channels table? |
| [13:18:03] | juski: | proper pub == real beer, followed by wine |
| [13:18:04] | juski: | yeah |
| [13:18:26] | stuarta: | all the xmltvid's |
| [13:18:29] | Gumby (Gumby!n=terry@unaffiliated/gumby) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [13:18:41] | juski: | anyway I don't care much whether I made a fool of myself at the 'do' – I don't go back to work til next year now :) |
| [13:19:23] | juski: | you can find all the xmltvids you need in a text file called channelids IIRC |
| [13:19:27] | jonty_ (jonty_!n=jonty@host-84-9-152-131.bulldogdsl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:19:35] | juski: | not that I'd trust my memory much today ;) |
| [13:19:47] | nelius: | :-) |
| [13:19:56] | nelius: | tnx, i'll try this |
| [13:20:24] | juski: | there's a guide in the wikiwiki ya know |
| [13:20:45] | juski: | I wrote the uk page when I still had some braincells intact |
| [13:21:35] | nelius: | yeah i think i read something about uk dvb... |
| [13:21:43] | nelius: | but this was about cable wasn't it? |
| [13:21:59] | stuarta: | same principle applies |
| [13:22:14] | juski: | it's a pain to have to edit the channel table but at least you don't have to do it very often |
| [13:22:33] | nelius: | juski: you say it! |
| [13:22:39] | stuarta: | IIRC i wrote a script to do it for me... |
| [13:23:04] | juski: | a while ago I started working on a wizard thing in perl but then I got distracted by an expo & a new theme ;) |
| [13:23:11] | nelius: | espechally if your wife allways stands behind you and askes: " And does our new telly work now?" ;-) |
| [13:24:59] | juski: | and when I got back from the expo, I upgraded mythtv & got into problems with my frontend. problems which haven't been completely fixed yet |
| [13:25:19] | juski: | silly buntu with its not always worky spdif output. tsck |
| [13:26:20] | nelius: | my sound device toggles dsp / dsp1 each reboot :-( |
| [13:26:49] | juski: | you prolly need to do some udev tweaking, or blacklist a kernel module or 2 & load em manually |
| [13:27:30] | nelius: | well, i first need my programm info working to get my wife smooth again :-) |
| [13:28:33] | nelius: | is it the channel_ids file where i find the xmltvid? |
| [13:28:46] | juski: | yeah |
| [13:28:53] | juski: | where you find that depends on the grabber |
| [13:29:08] | juski: | for uk_rt it's /usr/share/xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt/ |
| [13:29:19] | D-side: | hrm. i wonder how i can see if my digital cable HD channels are output in DD |
| [13:29:21] | nelius: | so the id is basically a url? |
| [13:29:44] | juski: | no, it's just a unique identifier for every channel |
| [13:30:14] | fiveiron: | running mode2 for /dev/lirc0 does absolutely nothing when i press buttons on my remote.... any idea why? |
| [13:30:35] | juski: | fiveiron: maybe it's /dev/lirc/0 you need to be looking at |
| [13:31:46] | juski: | oh fack. it's peeing down & I need to go out later |
| [13:32:07] | juski: | ah well. time for some dead animal sandwiches :) |
| [13:32:15] | stuarta: | mmmm. |
| [13:32:48] | stuarta: | i'm a big fan of wraps. |
| [13:37:52] | KaZeR (KaZeR!n=kazer@210.204.98-84.rev.gaoland.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [13:39:19] | nelius: | argh! i have to set icon also by hand... |
| [13:40:55] | LLyric: | Is NFS over 100mbit fast enough for 2 HD simultaneous recordings? |
| [13:42:15] | stuarta: | what's the bitrate on your HD channels? |
| [13:42:58] | LLyric: | I dunno, whatever is normal down here. ~10mbit I guess? |
| [13:43:12] | LLyric: | I forget the key to make mythtv tell me ;) |
| [13:43:35] | nelius: | where does xmltv store its data? |
| [13:43:54] | stuarta: | nelius: .xmltv |
| [13:44:02] | LLyric: | nelius: it doesn't, really, mythfilldatabase pushes it into the DB, the deletes it... |
| [13:44:09] | LLyric: | If you're asking about mythtv, that is ;) |
| [13:44:35] | nelius: | ah, i havn't found the tabel i guess |
| [13:44:54] | nelius: | is it in program? |
| [13:45:04] | fiveiron: | juski: nope... its /dev/lirc0 |
| [13:45:13] | stuarta: | nelius: that's where it ends up |
| [13:45:40] | LLyric: | nelius: table "program" in mythconverg |
| [13:46:09] | nelius: | so the chanid in table program is the id which must be xmltvid in table channel? |
| [13:46:26] | Paladine (Paladine!n=Paladine@paladine.org.uk) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:46:32] | Paladine: | so anyone familiar with kino? |
| [13:46:47] | stuarta: | no, xmltvid in channel, must be equal to what your grabber puts out |
| [13:46:48] | LLyric: | nelius: nah, there's a mapping in the middle. |
| [13:47:21] | nelius: | ok, this is what i'm searching :-) |
| [13:48:00] | LLyric: | you normally shouldn't have to deal with the db |
| [13:48:09] | LLyric: | Use mythtvsetup for this configuration |
| [13:48:33] | nelius: | my problem is: if i do a channel scan and than mythfilldatabase --manual, it dosn't update the scaned channels. |
| [13:48:45] | nelius: | so new channels w.o. tuning informations are created |
| [13:48:55] | LLyric: | you need to set the xmltvid in mythtvsetup->channel editor |
| [13:49:04] | LLyric: | to match the data from xmltv |
| [13:49:28] | LLyric: | run xmltv manually to get a look at the data, if you want. |
| [13:49:35] | nelius: | yeah, but than the question again, where do i find the xmltvids ? |
| [13:49:55] | LLyric: | which end? they're in the XML file (from the datasource), and they're in the DB (for import) |
| [13:51:59] | nelius: | if i go to the channel editor, i can set xmtv-id, |
| [13:52:29] | nelius: | mythfilldatabase "somehow" filled my program database with data, and now i need to know what i have to ender here in this setup field |
| [13:53:01] | nelius: | if i do a " select distinct chanid from program;" i on the db, i just get numeric id's |
| [13:54:10] | nelius: | and so, my problem is, how is the mapping? |
| [13:54:29] | nelius: | or where can i find the mapping? |
| [13:54:29] | nelius: | i don't find any xml-files on my machine |
| [13:56:02] | daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@72.173.30.109) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:57:40] | stuarta: | nelius: run the grabber by hand first and have a look at the output. |
| [14:01:12] | nelius: | yeah, i did this :-) and i gave some numbers as chanids... but now i can't find where myth stored this conf... |
| [14:06:19] | Bernardo (Bernardo!n=Bernardo@sourcemage/Bernardo) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:06:26] | Bernardo: | hi |
| [14:07:10] | Bernardo: | I need help installing mythtv-database in ubuntu edgy. The mysql root password isn't being passed to mysql, even if it is in the DBI->Connect call in the postinst script |
| [14:07:14] | Cybertoy (Cybertoy!n=cybertoy@dsl254-123-112.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has quit ("Bad haircut?") | |
| [14:08:01] | Zider (Zider!i=zider@c-dd9c72d5.031-30-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:08:31] | juski: | Paladine: kino, the video editor for linux? |
| [14:11:23] | Paladine: | yeah |
| [14:11:37] | juski: | nah |
| [14:11:40] | juski: | :-P |
| [14:12:00] | Paladine: | the video I just grabbed from the camcorder seems really dark |
| [14:12:21] | Paladine: | but I am worried about adjusting the brightness and contrast in case it is just my nvidia drivers |
| [14:12:24] | juski: | over firewire? |
| [14:12:28] | Paladine: | yeah |
| [14:12:43] | Paladine: | anyone got windows handy? |
| [14:12:48] | juski: | how does other video look? |
| [14:12:58] | juski: | yeah I have (oh the shame of it) |
| [14:13:03] | Paladine: | a bit grainy but other than that just dark |
| [14:13:28] | Paladine: | sec let me copy one of the videos into my web dir, if you could check it in windows for me I would appreciate it |
| [14:13:29] | juski: | yeah sure |
| [14:13:59] | juski: | one of my pvr150 recordings had weird audio.. like it was 4-bit or something |
| [14:14:31] | Paladine: | k www.paladine.org.uk/logan.mpeg should work |
| [14:14:39] | Paladine: | it is about 26MB |
| [14:14:39] | juski: | wish there was more mythbusters on terrestrial telly :) |
| [14:14:54] | Paladine: | oh try 39MB hehe |
| [14:15:02] | juski: | was about to say... |
| [14:15:15] | Paladine: | but I have 832Kb/s upload so it should be reasonably quick |
| [14:15:30] | juski: | 10 meg download? |
| [14:15:35] | Paladine: | 8 |
| [14:15:43] | juski: | lucky sod |
| [14:16:00] | juski: | I get 5Mb down, 256k up |
| [14:16:17] | Paladine: | I made sure we bought a house close to the telephone exchange :) |
| [14:16:19] | juski: | haha |
| [14:16:19] | juski: | that'd do it |
| [14:16:25] | Paladine: | post code is the first thing I check when looking for somewhere to live |
| [14:16:42] | Paladine: | if it isn't within 2km of exchange I am not interested |
| [14:16:43] | juski: | I was more worried about crime figures etc |
| [14:17:11] | Paladine: | we are approx 5000 feet from the exchange here |
| [14:17:19] | Paladine: | actual cable run |
| [14:17:19] | stuarta: | Paladine: what do you use to check distance to the exchange? |
| [14:17:33] | Paladine: | I asked the engineer who fitted the line |
| [14:17:35] | juski: | ooo I just remembered I have some redbull in the fridge :) |
| [14:17:45] | stuarta: | that's nasty shit |
| [14:17:54] | juski: | nasty but will be necessary tonight |
| [14:17:56] | Paladine: | hows that video coming juski? |
| [14:18:01] | juski: | 41% |
| [14:18:09] | Paladine: | you getting decent speed on it? |
| [14:18:15] | juski: | 89k/sec |
| [14:18:22] | Neeesat25 (Neeesat25!n=neosat@87.228.219.109) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [14:18:23] | Paladine: | sweet :) |
| [14:18:27] | juski: | that's KB/sec |
| [14:18:37] | Paladine: | yeah I just checked my mrtg :) |
| [14:18:54] | juski: | jees you could just about stream full quality freeview with that |
| [14:19:12] | juski: | when their bitrate is lowest ;) |
| [14:19:21] | Paladine: | :) |
| [14:19:34] | juski: | reminds me I installed mythstreamtv yesterday but it doesn't work yet |
| [14:20:16] | Paladine: | oh thats a real cute video you are grabbing too |
| [14:20:18] | sigger_2_ (sigger_2_!n=Sigger@ool-44c0a897.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:20:20] | Paladine: | filmed it last night |
| [14:20:28] | Paladine: | he is only 12 months old |
| [14:20:34] | Paladine: | his 1st birthday was tuesday |
| [14:20:36] | Paladine: | his party is today |
| [14:20:58] | juski: | oh ffs someone left a comment on my youtube vid... "omg wot a weirdo safe az tunz dooo luv it dis sng it da biz" |
| [14:21:22] | Zider: | juski: no translation to english? |
| [14:21:42] | ** briand snickers ** | |
| [14:22:44] | Paladine: | that video almost down juski? |
| [14:22:59] | juski: | wow. that IS dark |
| [14:23:06] | Paladine: | in windows too? |
| [14:23:13] | juski: | did you forget to take the lens cap off? |
| [14:23:16] | juski: | ;) |
| [14:23:23] | Paladine: | no it looks fine on the camcorder |
| [14:23:35] | Paladine: | so I need to apply a filter to them to brighten them up a bit |
| [14:23:42] | Paladine: | question is what do I use to apply the filter |
| [14:23:43] | juski: | definitely needs a gamma tweak |
| [14:23:48] | Paladine: | mplayer can do it can't it? |
| [14:23:56] | juski: | I dunno |
| [14:24:01] | juski: | not done any editing in linux |
| [14:24:11] | juski: | I'd just slap it into Vegas & tweak it |
| [14:25:03] | juski: | I've done quite a lot of colorising in Vegas |
| [14:25:19] | fysa (fysa!n=fysag@653414hfc175.tampabay.res.rr.com) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [14:25:27] | juski: | blimmin nora. looks fine in Vegas |
| [14:26:40] | Paladine: | weird |
| [14:27:59] | fysa (fysa!n=fysag@653414hfc175.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:29:12] | GeeVee (GeeVee!n=mythtv@bas7-ottawa23-1088827984.dsl.bell.ca) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [14:32:33] | Neeesat25 (Neeesat25!n=neosat@87.228.219.109) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:33:54] | Neeesat25: | When I set LiveTV or Videos I see a line of the mythtv background on the left and top side. Is there a setting I can to to have tv screen covering all? |
| [14:34:41] | visit0r: | is the line blue? |
| [14:35:43] | Neeesat25: | yes |
| [14:37:17] | juski: | Paladine: I've been thinking about it & I reckon you have a problem with the capture driver |
| [14:37:50] | Paladine: | its just standard generic raw1394 |
| [14:37:54] | juski: | DV is basically mjpeg & capture quality varies a lot between codec implimentations, believe it or not |
| [14:38:28] | juski: | Microsoft's is a PoS and is very lossy |
| [14:39:39] | visit0r: | Neeesat25: there's a xset in wiki |
| [14:39:46] | visit0r: | Neeesat25: that converts the blue line to black thus invisible |
| [14:39:53] | Neeesat25: | cool |
| [14:39:59] | Neeesat25: | I will search for it |
| [14:40:01] | Neeesat25: | Thanks |
| [14:40:03] | visit0r: | np |
| [14:40:33] | juski: | or overscan it away ;) |
| [14:40:41] | Paladine: | mmmmm exceedingly good mince pies :) |
| [14:40:47] | Neeesat25: | overscan? |
| [14:40:50] | Bernardo (Bernardo!n=Bernardo@sourcemage/Bernardo) has left #mythtv-users ("Time makes no sense") | |
| [14:40:55] | juski: | wiki it ;) |
| [14:41:02] | Neeesat25: | ok |
| [14:41:26] | juski: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Overscan |
| [14:41:36] | visit0r: | Neeesat25: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_D . . . Blue_Borders |
| [14:43:45] | markit (markit!n=konversa@host119-245-static.72-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:45:30] | Neeesat25: | Thank you friends |
| [14:45:56] | visit0r: | np |
| [14:46:45] | juski: | zomg the Hamster is on wonofan woss next Fwiday! |
| [14:48:01] | Neeesat25: | I dont have any file as .xinitrc |
| [14:48:11] | Neeesat25: | Shall I create it? |
| [14:48:30] | Neeesat25: | in /home/mythtv/ |
| [14:49:46] | juski: | which wm are you using? |
| [14:50:25] | Neeesat25: | wm? |
| [14:50:30] | juski: | window manager |
| [14:50:33] | visit0r: | Neeesat25: yeah, although I have had problems it never getting executed automatically in ubuntu so I've just inserted those commands in my mythtv startup script |
| [14:50:34] | Neeesat25: | kde |
| [14:50:53] | juski: | you can add the command to a session file if you like |
| [14:51:11] | Neeesat25: | the script that starts mythtv? |
| [14:51:25] | Neeesat25: | just before starting it? |
| [14:51:47] | juski: | aye |
| [14:52:11] | Neeesat25: | is aye = yea? |
| [14:52:47] | visit0r: | yes |
| [14:53:42] | Neeesat25: | Great just did it |
| [14:53:47] | Neeesat25: | thanks again |
| [14:54:02] | visit0r: | np |
| [14:55:18] | nelius (nelius!n=nelius@pD9E0D979.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep") | |
| [14:55:21] | nasa (nasa!n=smithna@c-71-207-20-172.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:56:06] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:59:08] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [15:02:59] | Neeesat25: | It's been fixed |
| [15:09:06] | juski: | another satisfied customer :) |
| [15:12:18] | Neeesat25: | Is there a way to have a splash screen wile pc is loading? |
| [15:12:44] | D-side: | oh there is a God |
| [15:12:59] | D-side: | tthis is my first cup of coffee in a week. oh how i've missed you, dark nectar |
| [15:15:19] | Zider: | Neeesat25: yes, I believe you can stuff a bootsplash image in the initrd that is shown while the kernel loads |
| [15:15:44] | Neeesat25: | nice |
| [15:16:27] | informavore (informavore!n=informav@bsqt.homeip.net) has left #mythtv-users ("Konversation terminated!") | |
| [15:18:36] | psofa (psofa!n=psofa@ppp79-189.adsl.forthnet.gr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:20:46] | juski: | ooo I know what I can do... |
| [15:20:47] | Kyler (Kyler!n=chatzill@74.132.227.26) has quit (SendQ exceeded) | |
| [15:27:57] | D-side: | whats that! |
| [15:31:02] | Zider: | juski: you can do the best theme for mythtv ever! no, wait.. you already did that.. hm.. |
| [15:32:39] | juski: | I'm playing around with Reason |
| [15:32:54] | Zider: | for what reason? |
| [15:32:58] | Zider: | *giggles* |
| [15:33:04] | Zider: | I made funnee |
| [15:34:50] | markit (markit!n=konversa@host119-245-static.72-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [15:35:03] | visit0r: | which theme juski has done? |
| [15:38:46] | Zider: | projectgrayhem |
| [15:41:21] | GreyFoxx: | ande bloo |
| [15:43:14] | GreyFoxx: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ |
| [15:43:31] | juski: | or as my wife calls it |
| [15:43:34] | juski: | boobtube |
| [15:43:38] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [15:45:04] | Scopeuk (Scopeuk!n=Scope@dyn237157.shef.ac.uk) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:45:20] | D-side: | juski: Reason? |
| [15:46:05] | juski: | Propellerhead Reason :) |
| [15:46:21] | juski: | nothing like some moody techno to help a hangover |
| [15:47:22] | juski: | actually I need some System F – Into The Blue, right now |
| [15:48:10] | D-side: | i'm lisitening to the online demos now |
| [15:49:42] | Dirky (Dirky!n=Dirky@82.152.136.98) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:50:07] | D-side: | interesting stuff. |
| [15:50:37] | juski: | sometimes I really miss having my decks set up |
| [15:50:43] | Dirky: | hi guys |
| [15:51:01] | juski: | Dirky Diggler? |
| [15:51:03] | D-side: | juski: this is all midi stuff? can you plug a midi keyboard and go? |
| [15:51:21] | Dirky: | I'm trying to compile svn trunk mythplugins after compiling the mythtv directory fine |
| [15:51:22] | juski: | D-side: I don't have a keyboard at the mo' – just use step sequencing |
| [15:51:28] | D-side: | but you COULD? |
| [15:51:29] | Dirky: | however I am getting this error |
| [15:51:42] | ** stuarta suspeccts Dirky didn't make install ** | |
| [15:51:43] | D-side: | gf might like this on her ibook. |
| [15:51:46] | juski: | Dirky: make install in the mythtv dir first I think |
| [15:51:48] | Dirky: | make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/mythtv/mythplugins/mytharchive/mytharchivehelper' |
| [15:51:48] | Dirky: | g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -fomit-frame-pointer -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPREFIX=\"\" -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -DQT_TABLET_SUPPORT -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I/include -I/usr/kde/3.3/include -I/include -I/include/mythtv -I../../../../../../include/qt3 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -o main.o main.cpp |
| [15:51:49] | Dirky: | main.cpp:31:35: error: libmythtv/programinfo.h: No such file or directory |
| [15:51:56] | Dirky: | hehe, honest I did make install |
| [15:52:00] | Dirky: | in the mythtv directory |
| [15:52:09] | juski: | don't believe you |
| [15:52:15] | Dirky: | :) |
| [15:52:26] | Dirky: | please believe me |
| [15:52:28] | stuarta: | me either |
| [15:52:35] | juski: | there's a song in that somewhere |
| [15:53:01] | juski: | fuck me this tune makes me miss DJing SO much |
| [15:53:01] | Dirky: | oh guys, your making me upset now :( |
| [15:53:09] | juski: | Dirky: just kidding |
| [15:53:20] | juski: | maybe your prefix was wrong or something |
| [15:53:37] | Dirky: | well I used the same prefix for the configure |
| [15:53:48] | Dirky: | hmm, is the qmake prefix important too? |
| [15:53:51] | Dirky: | does that need to be same |
| [15:53:53] | juski: | did you use packages before? |
| [15:53:59] | Dirky: | yes, afraid so! |
| [15:54:05] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : -v jams | |
| [15:54:08] | juski: | they might be left over |
| [15:54:11] | stuarta: | did you remove them? |
| [15:54:32] | Dirky: | I removed the packages and cleared out some stuff |
| [15:54:39] | Dirky: | I'm using /usr/local/ for the prefix |
| [15:55:22] | juski: | ugh I just remembered this track is by Ferry Corsten! |
| [15:55:30] | juski: | I must be a chav or summink |
| [15:57:30] | D-side: | you're speaking an entirely different language now. |
| [15:57:35] | ** juski dons his burberry cap ** | |
| [15:57:50] | Dirky: | almost like you are from the UK! |
| [15:57:57] | juski: | haha |
| [15:58:11] | juski: | I'm almost even from planet Earth, some days |
| [15:59:13] | D-side: | heh |
| [15:59:18] | D-side: | lets not push it, eh? :D |
| [15:59:33] | juski: | oh god. I have this vague memory now of telling the guys from work they're a bunch of wankers last night. whoops |
| [15:59:51] | D-side: | juski: so, serious question. my gf has some musical talent, and loves her keyboard i got her last christmas. |
| [16:00:04] | juski: | D-side: yeah? cool.. and? |
| [16:00:08] | D-side: | think she'd enjoy something like this? |
| [16:00:16] | juski: | Reason? most likely |
| [16:00:25] | juski: | it's a great software synth |
| [16:00:25] | D-side: | currently she just uses the 5 different track banks on the keyboard alone to mix her own crap |
| [16:00:32] | Dirky: | oh well, back to warcraft I think, cant figure this one out! I didnt want to have to reinstall a fresh OS but maybe it is only way |
| [16:00:41] | D-side: | if this is something she can connect thhat keyboard into, she might really dig it. |
| [16:01:00] | juski: | Dirky: just find all the myth libs & wipe em out, then recompile mythtv & try again. shouldn't be any need to reinstall the OS |
| [16:01:12] | D-side: | bbut at the same time i wonder if something like garageband might be a better fit. i don't know a damn thing aboutt this stuff. i can carry a tune, but thats about it. :) |
| [16:01:44] | juski: | D-side: did you ever see the mythtv demo video I did? the music in that was all done in Reason :) |
| [16:01:55] | D-side: | juski: no i never did. url? |
| [16:02:11] | juski: | uhhh www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/videos IIRC |
| [16:02:34] | juski: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/videos/LWmythpromo.mpg |
| [16:03:10] | D-side: | what video software? |
| [16:03:30] | D-side: | don't say cinelerra |
| [16:03:57] | juski: | Sony Vegas |
| [16:04:14] | ** juski ignores private msgs, FYI ** | |
| [16:04:28] | juski: | unless it's from somebody I know :) |
| [16:04:31] | D-side: | wasn't me. |
| [16:04:47] | D-side: | i'm sure you could never ignore moi anyway. :) |
| [16:05:07] | Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:05:16] | D-side: | I'd heard Vegas was a decent app, but i haven't played witth video editing in over ten years. |
| [16:05:20] | juski: | Dirky: like I said it might be a library caching thing. I can't remember the command to reset it |
| [16:05:24] | nuongu1 (nuongu1!n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:05:38] | D-side: | what, like ldconfig? |
| [16:05:48] | juski: | something like that |
| [16:06:10] | juski: | I've got 2 versions of myth on my ubuntu box that I need to sort out one day |
| [16:06:18] | D-side: | heh. |
| [16:06:27] | juski: | NOT today though |
| [16:06:37] | D-side: | my "oh screw this bullshit, i'm going back to gentoo" decision seems to have worked well for me. |
| [16:07:01] | Dirky: | yes it probably something simple! |
| [16:07:05] | juski: | if I could go without a myth backend for 2 days, I might |
| [16:07:26] | juski: | but it ain't broke so I'll prolly just leave it |
| [16:07:45] | akaias (akaias!n=akaias@c-76-16-18-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:09:03] | Dirky: | I've rebooted, tried ldconfig still main.cpp:31:35: error: libmythtv/programinfo.h: No such file or directory |
| [16:09:42] | stuarta: | try locate programinfo.h |
| [16:10:05] | Dirky: | yes, just doing that, looks like it is only showing in the src directory for mythtv |
| [16:10:33] | Dirky: | I assume it should be in one of the lib directories |
| [16:10:42] | stuarta: | also find /usr -name programinfo.h -print |
| [16:10:56] | stuarta: | take a bit longer, but the locate db may be out of date |
| [16:11:26] | Dirky: | yes quite right, its alo here |
| [16:11:31] | Dirky: | /usr/local/include/mythtv/libmythtv/programinfo.h |
| [16:13:12] | stuarta: | looking over the compile line again it looks like the prefix isn't set right. |
| [16:13:20] | stuarta: | re-run configure for the plugins |
| [16:14:28] | Dirky: | ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --libdir-name=/usr/local |
| [16:14:36] | Dirky: | does that look right? |
| [16:14:40] | stuarta: | loose libdir-name |
| [16:14:45] | stuarta: | lose even |
| [16:15:37] | Dirky: | ok, I notice I get a few of these during the ./configure |
| [16:15:51] | Dirky: | cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory |
| [16:15:51] | Dirky: | cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory |
| [16:15:51] | Dirky: | cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory |
| [16:15:51] | Dirky: | cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory |
| [16:15:51] | Dirky: | cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory |
| [16:15:51] | Dirky: | cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory |
| [16:16:02] | stuarta: | shouldn't matter |
| [16:16:16] | stuarta: | do you have /usr/local/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [16:16:19] | Dirky: | ok, so do I need the prefix on qmake ? |
| [16:17:15] | Dirky: | no, I assume I should add it |
| [16:17:39] | stuarta: | yes, add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf, and run ldconfig |
| [16:17:45] | stuarta: | then rerun configure |
| [16:19:44] | Dirky: | make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/mythtv/mythplugins/mytharchive/mytharchivehelper' |
| [16:19:46] | Dirky: | g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -fomit-frame-pointer -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPREFIX=\"\" -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -DQT_TABLET_SUPPORT -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I/include -I/usr/kde/3.3/include -I/include -I/include/mythtv -I../../../../../../include/qt3 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -o main.o main.cpp |
| [16:19:47] | Dirky: | main.cpp:31:35: error: libmythtv/programinfo.h: No such file or directory |
| [16:19:52] | Dirky: | same :( |
| [16:20:26] | stuarta: | is this latest svn? |
| [16:20:37] | nuonguy (nuonguy!n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [16:20:40] | Dirky: | night before last I got it |
| [16:21:14] | ** stuarta svn updates... ** | |
| [16:22:30] | Dirky: | I should update it? |
| [16:23:50] | stuarta: | those -I/include & -I/include/mythtv should be -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/mythtv |
| [16:24:04] | stuarta: | so the prefix isn't being populated. |
| [16:25:00] | stuarta: | okay, try not specifying the prefix either |
| [16:25:10] | Dr_willis (Dr_willis!n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:25:12] | manuleviking (manuleviking!n=Tux@ANice-151-1-4-211.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:25:23] | stuarta: | i haven't got it on my configure line, so it defaults to /usr/local |
| [16:26:00] | jams: | any body know how to fix this mysql error when running mythfilldatabase http://pastebin.ca/281204 |
| [16:26:34] | Dirky: | ok stuart, I'll try, appreciate your help |
| [16:26:38] | jams: | if I backup and restore the database, things work fine for one run of mythfilldatabase |
| [16:29:07] | tank-man (tank-man!i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:29:10] | Dirky: | still the same. strange, something is broken |
| [16:29:20] | Dirky: | I'll try pulling down new version |
| [16:30:52] | juski: | well time for a nap before getting ready for another night of debauchery |
| [16:31:08] | juski: | hopefully I'll handle by booze better tonight! |
| [16:31:14] | juski: | s/my/by |
| [16:32:46] | GeeVee (GeeVee!n=mythtv@bas7-ottawa23-1088827984.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:34:43] | Dirky: | sorry I cant help you jams |
| [16:35:58] | jams: | thats alright Dirky |
| [16:36:11] | jams: | didn't expect a rapid response on that one |
| [16:36:13] | frink_: | hey all |
| [16:36:27] | frink_: | 16:30 <+juski> well time for a nap before getting ready for another night of debauchery |
| [16:36:31] | frink_: | oh yeah? |
| [16:37:03] | stuarta: | *cough* lightweight *cough* |
| [16:47:40] | noddan_ (noddan_!n=noddan@noddan-birger.brj.sgsnet.se) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:50:13] | stuarta (stuarta!n=stuarta@unaffiliated/stuarta) has quit ("later all") | |
| [16:56:17] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:57:13] | faulteh (faulteh!n=faulteh@ppp114-103.static.internode.on.net) has quit () | |
| [16:57:38] | ** frink_ swears at RPM again ** | |
| [17:05:20] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [17:05:25] | noddan (noddan!n=noddan@noddan-birger.brj.sgsnet.se) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [17:05:37] | nelius (nelius!n=nelius@pD9E0D979.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:11:45] | recurs|ve (recurs|ve!n=adamklun@74-135-54-210.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:12:08] | recurs|ve (recurs|ve!n=adamklun@74-135-54-210.dhcp.insightbb.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [17:12:30] | recurs|ve (recurs|ve!n=adamklun@74-135-54-210.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:13:14] | recurs|ve (recurs|ve!n=adamklun@74-135-54-210.dhcp.insightbb.com) has quit (Client Quit) | |
| [17:13:21] | recurs|ve (recurs|ve!n=adamklun@74-135-54-210.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:13:55] | Cybertoy (Cybertoy!n=maxim@dsl254-123-131.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:24:09] | Dirky: | ok I donwloaded latest svn and am building again |
| [17:24:19] | Dirky: | myth has built and installed |
| [17:24:24] | Dirky: | just doing mythplugins now |
| [17:28:35] | SavageOne (SavageOne!n=savageon@static-66-212-194-20.myeastern.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:28:37] | SavageOne: | howdie folks |
| [17:28:44] | SavageOne: | anyone out there selling mythboxes commercially |
| [17:29:13] | SavageOne: | and anybody got any idea how these people that are are getting around decss? is there a legal pay-for dvd decoder you can purchase to keep legal when selling in the us? |
| [17:29:35] | coolego1 (coolego1!i=coolego1@cpe-24-195-130-233.nycap.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:32:22] | mtnbkr: | any devs in here? I have such a strange issue with the mythbackend... lemme try to explain: everything works fine for a while,. then randomly the mythbackend stops responding to the frontend. But, mythbackend is not 'hung' the frontend will timeout and complain that the backend is gone, and of course the recordings page etc are blank. But... here is the strange part: |
| [17:32:47] | topping_ (topping_!n=topping@207.47.6.182.static.nextweb.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:34:30] | Scopeuk (Scopeuk!n=Scope@dyn237157.shef.ac.uk) has quit ("Download IceChat at www.icechat.net") | |
| [17:35:28] | mtnbkr: | if I run strace without the -f (follow child processes) I get this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ui8PSo88.html and nothing changes in the frontend. BUT, if I run that same strace with the -f param, all of a sudden, the frontend comes alive and is able to communicate with the backend and the recordings page etc are populated. when the strace -f is killed, the frontend again can no longer communicate with the backend... |
| [17:35:29] | mtnbkr: | meanwhile, whenever the backend is not responding to the frontend, no scheduled recordings take place. |
| [17:37:54] | mtnbkr: | yeah, I know. this is very strange. was just running strace to see what mythbackedn was supposedly trying to do when it was not responding to the frontend. No idea why or how strace could affect how it acts. |
| [17:41:31] | juski: | good grief! that bloody multiple recordings from one transponder 'pledge' thing is still going on |
| [17:41:50] | ** mtnbkr cries ** | |
| [17:42:14] | daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@72.173.30.109) has quit (Client Quit) | |
| [17:42:41] | juski: | mtnbkr: using mythtv 0.19 and mysql5 by any chance? |
| [17:42:58] | juski: | or worse still, 0.18 ? |
| [17:43:52] | juski: | yeah stuarta I'm a lightweight. it's these damn early starts I've been doing. up at 6am. don't think I'll ever get used to them |
| [17:46:01] | janneg: | juski: I fear the only way to stop it, is to implement that feature |
| [17:47:29] | juski: | never give in on principle ;) |
| [17:47:39] | juski: | it'll set a precident, for one thing |
| [17:48:31] | GreyFoxx: | hehe but it would be a pretty sweet feature :) |
| [17:48:32] | juski: | I want, I want I want I want! Or I will thcream and thcream and thcream and THCREAM! |
| [17:48:46] | janneg: | let's see how much time I have after christmas |
| [17:50:07] | janneg: | I found the guy who said he can't code but is interesterd in discussing how it should be implemented quite funny |
| [17:50:21] | mtnbkr: | juski: heh... no, myth .20-something and per someone's comments in here I downgraded mysql from 5 to a 4 install :) |
| [17:51:15] | ** ille put himself in the line of folks wanting multiple recordings from one MUX ** | |
| [17:51:34] | juski: | there are plenty of procrastinators already |
| [17:51:37] | mtnbkr: | juski: funny thing is that the backend seems to query the database and log even though it is not responding to the frontend. and the strace "reactivating' the backend is beyond bizarre to me |
| [17:52:20] | juski: | mtnbkr: you're in the deep end there.. way outta my reach anyway ;) |
| [17:53:09] | mtnbkr: | lol |
| [17:53:13] | SavageOne: | anyone know of any commercial products using mythbox? |
| [17:53:14] | mtnbkr: | dagnabbit! |
| [17:53:25] | mtnbkr: | juski: # mythbackend --version |
| [17:53:25] | mtnbkr: | Library API version: 0.20.20060828–3 |
| [17:53:26] | mtnbkr: | Source code version: exported |
| [17:53:26] | mtnbkr: | Options compiled in: |
| [17:53:26] | mtnbkr: | linux release using_lmsensors using_v4l using_oss using_alsa using_ivtv using_firewire using_x11 using_xv using_xrandr using_opengl_vsync using_opengl using_frontend using_backend using_bindings_perl |
| [17:53:27] | GreyFoxx: | SavageOne: There are several out there |
| [17:53:32] | juski: | SavageOne: there are a few |
| [17:53:39] | GreyFoxx: | mostly in North America, but at least one in Australia too |
| [17:53:46] | juski: | none in the UK |
| [17:53:48] | SavageOne: | cool |
| [17:53:57] | SavageOne: | I'm trying to get an idea as to how they're getting around the decss issue |
| [17:54:06] | SavageOne: | like instead of decss are they using a commercial product |
| [17:54:10] | SavageOne: | for the decoder |
| [17:54:13] | juski: | http://mythic.tv/product_info.php?products_id=44 |
| [17:55:01] | juski: | the above system ships with knoppmyth, so I'd guess not |
| [17:55:27] | juski: | they also have to be very careful about providing systems with preconfigured guide data setups |
| [17:55:45] | juski: | careful, to protect our right to free EPG data |
| [17:56:10] | SavageOne: | yeah |
| [17:56:14] | SavageOne: | I'm not trying to build them myself |
| [17:56:20] | SavageOne: | tenxnetworks is trying to get me to sell them |
| [17:56:24] | SavageOne: | and I like the boxes they have |
| [17:56:30] | SavageOne: | but i'm concerned about the decss liability |
| [17:56:34] | juski: | a UK setup with DVB tuners would be quite a nice way to go |
| [17:56:42] | SavageOne: | I use knoppmyth now out of convenience |
| [17:56:44] | juski: | I'd also be concerned about mp3 |
| [17:56:48] | SavageOne: | but it just isn't the latest version |
| [17:57:23] | juski: | if ffmpeg ever get into software patents trouble it'll be bad news for everybody here too |
| [17:57:35] | ille: | http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/ |
| [17:57:50] | SavageOne: | I mean |
| [17:57:57] | SavageOne: | wghat is it like $3 for each implementation hehe |
| [17:58:04] | SavageOne: | I'd be willing to pay to setup a commercial system |
| [17:58:08] | SavageOne: | but maybe these guys ARE |
| [17:58:09] | SavageOne: | who knows |
| [17:58:23] | juski: | $0.75 a unit |
| [17:59:19] | janneg: | SavageOne: decss is only the tip of the iceberg. the licenses for all modern media codecs are the greater evil |
| [17:59:30] | SavageOne: | yeah |
| [17:59:32] | SavageOne: | it's bullshit |
| [17:59:38] | juski: | for DVD, talk to Macrovision |
| [17:59:41] | SavageOne: | but that's because of tghe side of the game we're on |
| [17:59:43] | SavageOne: | the team we're on |
| [17:59:44] | juski: | big $$$$ I imagine |
| [17:59:47] | SavageOne: | I mean, they want their money |
| [17:59:53] | SavageOne: | they spend a ton developing it and they want a return |
| [17:59:56] | janneg: | juski: it's not mp3 alone, mpeg2, mpeg4, h.264, aac ... |
| [17:59:58] | juski: | what do linspire do about it? |
| [17:59:59] | SavageOne: | mean while the real work is being done in open source |
| [18:00:10] | SavageOne: | which, with little or no budget makes leaps and bounds above them |
| [18:00:16] | SavageOne: | like xvid |
| [18:00:17] | SavageOne: | I mean, it's great |
| [18:00:29] | juski: | xvid was reverse engineered from divx wasn't it? |
| [18:01:18] | GreyFoxx: | It was a from scratch implementation, no ideaif they just followed a spec of some sort of traced existing code |
| [18:01:22] | ille: | DVD player Licence http://www.licensing.philips.com/includes/dow . . . ame=4115.pdf |
| [18:01:25] | janneg: | probably from specs |
| [18:01:52] | GreyFoxx: | Probably since I know part of it's purpose was to avoid any claims on it |
| [18:01:53] | SavageOne: | yeah |
| [18:02:08] | ille: | entrance 10 000 $ + 2.5$ each player |
| [18:02:36] | GreyFoxx: | Their problem these days is that a LOT of dvd player makers are not getting licenses |
| [18:02:40] | jams: | GreyFoxx- mind looking at http://pastebin.ca/281204 This problem is driving me nuts |
| [18:02:46] | GreyFoxx: | Those $20 Walmart dvd players and such |
| [18:03:06] | Dr_willis: | GreyFoxx, yep. seen many of them. Cyberhome i think quit making dvd players – they got in trouble for that. |
| [18:03:12] | jams: | if I backup and restore the database, things work fine for one run of mythfilldatabase. After that it's hosed again. |
| [18:03:16] | Dr_willis: | Those players dident eevn want to play many of my comercial dvd's |
| [18:03:25] | Dr_willis: | we gave out about 6 last year at xmas. |
| [18:03:39] | ille: | jams: don't blame the swedes |
| [18:03:43] | GreyFoxx: | jams: hmmm I know Iv'e seen that |
| [18:04:14] | jams: | ille- don't worry |
| [18:05:47] | GreyFoxx: | jams: I can't remember if it was something I ran into when updating the office mythbox or if it was just something a user mentioned here |
| [18:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm actually it was someone here and who also came into -dev |
| [18:07:47] | jams: | not much shows up on the mailing list. |
| [18:08:25] | jams: | there was a a dbcheck commit that I thought was supposed to fix it but it didn't help "ALTER DATABASE mythconverg DEFAULT CHARACTER SET latin1;" |
| [18:09:13] | GreyFoxx: | Searching my irclogs for this channel fines 3 users mentioning it |
| [18:09:20] | jams: | at least doing a backup/restore of the database lets me run mythfilldatabase but I would still like to fix it |
| [18:09:40] | mtnbkr: | juski: where else can I go for help? the #mythtv channel is for devs and I dare not ask in there. :) |
| [18:09:57] | GreyFoxx: | I'm searching through my logs to see if the user got an answer that fixed it or explained it :) |
| [18:10:04] | jams: | thank you |
| [18:10:06] | GreyFoxx: | jams, what version are you running ? |
| [18:10:13] | jams: | 5.0.27 |
| [18:10:32] | GreyFoxx: | Heh my log for this channel hasn't been rotated since OCt 2004 :) |
| [18:10:40] | juski: | mtnbkr: try the users' mailing list |
| [18:10:52] | GreyFoxx: | What version of myth? -fixes or trunk ? |
| [18:11:18] | jams: | thats mysql 5.0.27. myth is trunk as of two weeks ago |
| [18:11:30] | GreyFoxx: | gotcha |
| [18:11:35] | Saviq (Saviq!n=michal@83.12.67.114) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:11:56] | Saviq: | hi guys... not really a question to be asked here... but I hava no idea where to go... |
| [18:12:26] | jams: | this started months ago, but I don't remember exactly when |
| [18:12:48] | mtnbkr: | juski: yeah, Ok I will do that... My problem is just so damn strange though... I almost need to write a book to explain it and all that I have tried to monitor/fix it. :) |
| [18:13:21] | ** mtnbkr has IRC logs going back to prehistoric times. ** | |
| [18:13:36] | Saviq: | is there some way to run Windows Media Connect (compatible) server on Linux? |
| [18:13:37] | Saviq: | I just got a receiver that can access WMC, but can't find anything that would run on my linux box |
| [18:14:20] | GreyFoxx: | Saviq" WMC is just a upnp server |
| [18:14:27] | SavageOne: | what do you guys recommend for the best media player for files/dvds |
| [18:14:31] | SavageOne: | I tried internal, and xine |
| [18:14:34] | GreyFoxx: | there are several for linux. Mythbackend is also a upnp server |
| [18:14:39] | SavageOne: | neither have good rewind/fast forward |
| [18:14:46] | SavageOne: | I was thinking about doing vlc |
| [18:14:58] | Saviq: | oh so that's it? |
| [18:15:01] | Saviq: | great :D |
| [18:15:49] | ille_ (ille_!n=ille@pdpc/supporter/student/ille) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:16:55] | GreyFoxx: | Saviq: Another that seems to work well is ushare |
| [18:18:28] | Saviq: | yeah thanks |
| [18:18:54] | GreyFoxx: | jams: the people never came back to say if any of the suggestions worked :/ |
| [18:19:34] | jams: | drats |
| [18:19:54] | GreyFoxx: | one guys said that the same query done manually in the mysql client worked |
| [18:20:05] | GreyFoxx: | but failed when the frontend/filldb did it |
| [18:21:35] | Saviq: | and what about a "Media adaptor" as stated in the uShare wiki? |
| [18:21:58] | Saviq: | that would transcode the streams according to the client needs? |
| [18:22:38] | GreyFoxx: | what about it |
| [18:22:39] | GreyFoxx: | ? |
| [18:22:54] | GreyFoxx: | Do you require one? Will your player not natively play the content you want to serve it ? |
| [18:22:56] | Saviq: | does Myth provide this? |
| [18:23:09] | Saviq: | not all :| |
| [18:23:16] | GreyFoxx: | No, myth doesn't |
| [18:23:16] | Saviq: | only mp3s, wma and pcm |
| [18:23:21] | akaias (akaias!n=akaias@c-76-16-18-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [18:23:34] | GreyFoxx: | well, what other kind of audio were you planning to serve it ? |
| [18:23:59] | Saviq: | ogg, flac, aac... whatever gets in my hands... |
| [18:24:03] | GreyFoxx: | I've personally never looked at any of the media adapters |
| [18:24:24] | Saviq: | ok thanks – I'll try and find some |
| [18:24:28] | GreyFoxx: | bbiab |
| [18:25:30] | visi (visi!n=real@c-67-177-29-181.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:40:47] | daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@72.173.30.109) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:46:59] | Dirky (Dirky!n=Dirky@82.152.136.98) has quit () | |
| [18:57:19] | Saviq: | hmm... ushare didn't work for me... |
| [18:57:42] | Saviq: | does Windows Media Player access UPnP servers? |
| [18:59:01] | GreyFoxx: | Only with the on2share(or something like that) upnp plugin which I do not think is free |
| [19:00:20] | Saviq: | mhm... will try MediaTomb now |
| [19:02:24] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:04:29] | Dr_willis (Dr_willis!n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving") | |
| [19:05:05] | kharan5876 (kharan5876!n=matt@c-68-49-196-3.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:07:20] | robbins876 (robbins876!n=robbins8@209.159.197.59) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [19:08:02] | Milosch (Milosch!n=milos@cpe-72-181-162-63.houston.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:08:17] | Milosch: | any mythgame users in today? |
| [19:08:20] | juski: | instead of the silly multiple recoding bounty there could be a UPnP client fund :) |
| [19:09:01] | GreyFoxx: | juski: Heh |
| [19:09:02] | juski: | not a bounty as such, but providing hardware to test the UPnP with ;) |
| [19:09:12] | GreyFoxx: | That would be nice |
| [19:09:19] | Milosch: | when I go to configure game players, I only see the background |
| [19:09:20] | GreyFoxx: | certainly make it go a lot faster |
| [19:09:23] | AngryElf (AngryElf!n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:10:03] | AngryElf (AngryElf!n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [19:10:13] | AngryElf (AngryElf!n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:10:20] | AngryElf (AngryElf!n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [19:10:29] | GreyFoxx: | Milosch: Only that screen ? Everything else is fine ? |
| [19:11:10] | Milosch: | general settings works as well as clear game data, scan for games shows nothing and does nothing |
| [19:11:19] | Milosch: | as far as I can tell |
| [19:11:37] | GreyFoxx: | If no gameplayers are defined it wouldn't do anything |
| [19:11:39] | kharan5876: | hello, I am running a udev system. I have myhtv installed with joystick support. When I plugin a joystick udev creats the node /dev/input/js0 for it. Then I start mythfrontend. When I unplug the joystick whiile mythfrontend is running the /dev/input/js0 node goes away. However if I plug it back it a new node is created /dev/input/js1 and now this joystick is no longer usable for mytfrontend. Is there any way around this?h |
| [19:11:49] | Milosch: | GreyFoxx: makes sense |
| [19:11:58] | Milosch: | hence my problem ;) |
| [19:12:10] | Milosch: | i wonder if I dare try to add one manually into the db |
| [19:12:15] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:12:32] | GreyFoxx: | That's really wierd though.... are the other settings menus ok? |
| [19:13:22] | Milosch: | they seem fine, also when i am in the game players screen i can still go back to the previous menu ok, so it is not crashing completely |
| [19:13:30] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe try mythtv-setup and the list of video devices |
| [19:14:11] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm |
| [19:14:12] | GreyFoxx: | try blindly hitting enter |
| [19:14:12] | GreyFoxx: | the first default option is to aqdd a new one |
| [19:14:13] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe it will get you where you want to go |
| [19:14:13] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:14:38] | Milosch: | tried that too... |
| [19:15:03] | Milosch: | if I arrow down and hit enter, mythfrontend crashes |
| [19:15:07] | GreyFoxx: | Out of curiousity, what version of myth are you running ? |
| [19:15:17] | Milosch: | relatively current svn |
| [19:15:26] | joerg (joerg!n=joerg@p54A3ABE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:15:34] | GreyFoxx: | There was a commit to gamesettings.h under mythgame 3 days ago |
| [19:15:46] | GreyFoxx: | It might be relevant to this |
| [19:15:49] | Milosch: | worth a shot |
| [19:16:03] | joerg: | good evening. |
| [19:16:19] | GreyFoxx: | It's related to changes to the config dialogs so I think it's likely something youw anna check out |
| [19:16:29] | Milosch: | recompiling now |
| [19:17:09] | ** GreyFoxx is in the middle of his saturday updates. hehe Slaves, frontends, and masters all compiling latest svn heh ** | |
| [19:17:23] | kharan5876: | maybe somehow I could make a new node that would send its events to /dev/input/js0? |
| [19:17:39] | kharan5876: | so myth wouldnt know or care if js0 is plugged in or not? |
| [19:17:52] | joerg: | hello, I have a little trouble with mythtv. |
| [19:18:02] | joerg: | |
| [19:18:04] | GreyFoxx: | kharan5876: That would certainly be annoying |
| [19:18:15] | joerg (joerg!n=joerg@p54A3ABE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has quit (Client Quit) | |
| [19:18:37] | GreyFoxx: | Wonder if there is anything on the wiki about that as it's likely happened to many before |
| [19:18:55] | Milosch: | still blank, but i inserted stella into the db, now scan for games is finding games based on that ;) |
| [19:19:15] | kharan5876: | GreyFoxx: Yeah but its either this or disable joystick support in mythtv entirely because it messes up my emulator scripts |
| [19:19:16] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:19:32] | Milosch: | none listed when i try to play |
| [19:19:58] | jb___ (jb___!n=joerg@p54A3ABE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:19:58] | GreyFoxx: | Milosch: When my compiles are done I'll try it out as well |
| [19:20:19] | Milosch: | thanks |
| [19:20:56] | jb___: | Hello, I have a small problem with mythtv. |
| [19:21:26] | Saviq: | damn... ushare didn't work, MediTomb crashes :| |
| [19:21:33] | nelius: | jb___: you lucky guy, most of us having big problems :-) |
| [19:21:41] | jb___: | recording of tv shows dont work for me. |
| [19:22:02] | kharan5876: | maybe I could just create a device node that works just like /dev/input/mice except its for joysticks. Do any of you guys know anything about doing stuff like that? |
| [19:22:09] | jb___: | I can watch live tv and switch channels, so I asume my problems are small :-) |
| [19:22:10] | levander: | nelius: big problems? |
| [19:22:37] | jb___: | in the log I see this: |
| [19:22:39] | jb___: | Channel(/dev/video0): SetInputAndFormat() failed |
| [19:22:41] | Dr_willis (Dr_willis!n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:22:48] | jb___: | TVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to E21. Reverting to kState_None |
| [19:23:00] | nelius: | remote is not working, xmltv not, sound only every second reboot... |
| [19:23:06] | nelius: | but i have video :-) |
| [19:23:36] | Dr_willis: | thats all ya need for porn right? :) |
| [19:23:38] | akaias (akaias!n=akaias@c-76-16-18-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:24:10] | jb___: | I have this with a analog Hauppauge PVR-350 on ubuntu edgy eft, mythtv 0.20-fixes-11451 |
| [19:24:13] | nelius: | but they don't come per sattelite :-) |
| [19:25:18] | Milosch: | funky, I can see the games and start stella now, but still can't configure the player in the gui |
| [19:25:30] | jb___: | could anybody help me with my small problem – not being able to record? |
| [19:25:31] | Milosch: | also, i guess this remote is not going to work for games |
| [19:25:36] | Saviq: | GreyFoxx: is it hard to enable myth's UPnP server? |
| [19:25:38] | Milosch: | until i configure it |
| [19:26:09] | Saviq: | I need only music streaming |
| [19:27:22] | Dr_willis: | Hmm.. Not tried the UPnP stuff yet. |
| [19:28:47] | levander: | If I use the ubuntu package of mythtv, how much can I expect mythtv to "just work"? |
| [19:29:02] | levander: | Or, is mythtv going to be a new hobby of mine? |
| [19:29:43] | rukuartic (rukuartic!n=rukuarti@pool-72-66-83-217.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [19:30:30] | Saviq: | levander: prolly depends on what You want to use |
| [19:30:43] | levander: | Saviq: you mean which hardware? |
| [19:31:03] | Saviq: | I mean which features |
| [19:31:09] | Saviq: | and which hardware |
| [19:31:46] | levander: | Well, I'm using the Hauppage 500 because I hear it's supported out of the box on the ubuntu package. |
| [19:32:34] | Dr_willis: | levander, so far i aint got it working on my Ubuntu system |
| [19:32:34] | levander: | Then, after that, watching and ripping DVD's, watching and recording Live TV are probably the two big features. Guess I could go slowly into the others. MythWeather sounds interesting as hell. |
| [19:33:07] | Dr_willis: | MthWeather = rather trivial. :) |
| [19:33:21] | levander: | Damn, one more thing to consider before I decide to spend $400 on computer parts whether or not to go with Myth. |
| [19:33:25] | Dr_willis: | shows a few images, and the forcast. heh |
| [19:33:40] | Dr_willis: | I used KnoppMyth and got a MythTV box set up in just a day or 2 |
| [19:33:47] | Dr_willis: | thats with reading all the docs and learning the stuff. |
| [19:33:53] | levander: | a day or two? |
| [19:34:01] | levander: | sounds like a long time |
| [19:34:13] | Dr_willis: | gee......... what do you expect.. its a complex system. |
| [19:34:20] | Dr_willis: | learn this, learn that.. learn some more neat tricks to try |
| [19:34:32] | levander: | Ubuntu is a complex system, but it just installs straight off the CD. |
| [19:34:39] | GreyFoxx: | Saviq: IT's on by default |
| [19:34:51] | GreyFoxx: | you have to turn it off on purpsoe if you don't want it |
| [19:34:56] | Dr_willis: | levander, so does KnoppMyth. |
| [19:35:06] | levander: | But, can I just have the base of watching TV and DVD's up and going with out much fuss? |
| [19:35:22] | Dr_willis: | should be able to. Learning where all the config settings and how things work is the hard part. |
| [19:35:26] | Dr_willis: | and even then its not that hard |
| [19:35:45] | levander: | Damn, now that it's coming time to spend the money, I'm really getting cold feet about going Myth. |
| [19:36:15] | Dr_willis: | I got my MythTV box in one corner or the room, tv out working, it can stream shows to any other pc with the vlc streamer.. pther pcs can get to it and view the tv guide/set shows to record... |
| [19:36:22] | Dr_willis: | getting all my vidoes copied over to it now. |
| [19:36:25] | GreyFoxx: | levander: Seriously how much effort it will take depens partially on your distro and most on you |
| [19:36:43] | Milosch: | lirc keys not working in stella atm, but at least the games are firing up |
| [19:36:48] | Dr_willis: | Its always the little trivial things that stump ya.. then ya go 'DOH!' thats so simple. |
| [19:36:52] | GreyFoxx: | Your *nix knowledge level with the various software involved |
| [19:37:04] | quicksilver: | I mostly found the getting the right drivers the hard bit |
| [19:37:05] | Dr_willis: | RIght now. I am wondering how to enable the coemrcial auto-skipping by default. |
| [19:37:07] | levander: | GreyFoxx: I've been using Linux for over 10 years, I have knowledge, just not sure if I want to spend unexpected days tinkering with Myth. I have a life outside computers. |
| [19:37:30] | Dr_willis: | levander, install knoppmyth – may be the easiest thing. for a dedicated box. |
| [19:37:30] | quicksilver: | maybe I was slightly unlucky, I needed a CVS linux-dvb driver and a compile-from-source video card driver |
| [19:37:31] | GreyFoxx: | levander: My very first Myth install (when it was much more effort) years ago took 2 hours |
| [19:37:51] | Dr_willis: | of course first thing i did was select the wrong tv tuner card. :) |
| [19:38:01] | Dr_willis: | Then i had my timezone set wrong. |
| [19:38:06] | GreyFoxx: | levander: And that included compiling everything |
| [19:38:32] | jb___: | could anybody help me with my mythtv, which could not record tv shows? |
| [19:38:55] | levander: | The other thing I'm concerned about is the sketchy digital cable support. I'm about to buy a big 50" DLP television, and Myth's limited (compared to a cable box) support of HDTV makes me question the point of spending the money on a Myth Box that won't have as many HDTV channels. |
| [19:39:12] | levander: | What's the point of having an HDTV television if not the HDTV channels. |
| [19:39:14] | levander: | ? |
| [19:39:33] | GreyFoxx: | levander: There are many HD options |
| [19:39:41] | quicksilver: | but your point is still a good one |
| [19:39:47] | levander: | OTA and Firewire, right? |
| [19:39:52] | Dr_willis: | I dont even get HD channels. :() |
| [19:39:53] | GreyFoxx: | Free OTA hidef, clear QAM, or firewire recording from a stb |
| [19:40:11] | nelius: | do i have to configure X for using a "ir_common" remote? |
| [19:40:13] | levander: | The good channels are scrambled under QAM |
| [19:40:17] | Dr_willis: | Will HighDef make My Cooking shows look better? :) |
| [19:40:33] | GreyFoxx: | levander: it's very dependant on your area |
| [19:40:35] | levander: | And, firewire doesn't work with all Firewire ports on the PC. I'll have no idea until I try it. |
| [19:40:45] | GreyFoxx: | plus local DH channels are almost always in the clear |
| [19:40:57] | levander: | I guess I could just plan on watching television either from a cable box or from a myth box.... |
| [19:40:59] | GreyFoxx: | levander: Ask on the list :) |
| [19:41:11] | levander: | GreyFoxx: ask what on the list? |
| [19:41:29] | GreyFoxx: | What firewire chipsets people are using with which settop boxes |
| [19:43:00] | levander: | Yeah, I guess that's best... It's a little more complicated for me though, because my back end is a 440 BX motherboard chipset, and I'll have to buy an add-in card. Because of limited PCI slots, I was hoping to buy a combo LAN/USB/Firewire card... |
| [19:43:30] | Dr_willis: | Hmmm. never seen a card that has Firewire+USB+Lan |
| [19:43:39] | levander: | Dr_willis: they have them at Newegg |
| [19:44:09] | Dr_willis: | Of course I got a 6 USB port card, and my sound card has firewire. :) and built in lan on the MB. |
| [19:44:17] | levander: | Having two boxes is sounding the most appealing right now, one cable box, one Myth box. But, then you gotta ask, why not just one box, the cable box? |
| [19:44:44] | Dr_willis: | levander, cable box cant play my videos ive dowloaded.. and wont zap comercoa;s |
| [19:44:50] | levander: | Plus, you don't even really have to do anything to administer the cable box. |
| [19:44:59] | levander: | Dr_willis: good point |
| [19:45:25] | levander: | Dr_willis: cable box can't rip DVD's either. |
| [19:46:21] | quicksilver: | cable box may not be able to timestop |
| [19:46:25] | levander: | nor can it play DVD's, which I guess would be $70 of the $400 I would spend on Myth hardware... |
| [19:46:26] | quicksilver: | or even to schedule recordings |
| [19:46:34] | quicksilver: | depending on the cable box |
| [19:46:52] | levander: | quicksilver: the only way to get HD with Comcast is to get their DVR. |
| [19:46:58] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [19:47:08] | Cybertoy: | anyone using a mce usb remote? I'm having troubles with it... it sometimes doesn't respond to the buttons I press... |
| [19:47:20] | quicksilver: | can it say 'record every episode of the simpsons now and henceforth, on every channel?' |
| [19:47:25] | quicksilver: | Cybertoy: it's not low on battery is it? |
| [19:47:46] | Cybertoy: | quicksilver, no ... brand new ... out of the box ... with a new set of batteries |
| [19:47:47] | quicksilver: | commercial DVRs often aren't as featureful as myth |
| [19:47:49] | levander: | I'm so stubborn, I'm kind of thinking I have to try Myth (and spend the money) or I will be forever curious. |
| [19:49:00] | Cybertoy: | quickksilver, and when I look at "irw" output when it's not responding there's just nothing there even if I press the button for a long time |
| [19:49:07] | Cybertoy: | but when I press it again it works... |
| [19:49:29] | Cybertoy: | like every 5th time or so the command is not picked up |
| [19:49:31] | Cybertoy: | weird.$ |
| [19:49:39] | noct3rn (noct3rn!n=Stanza@c-67-184-66-198.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:50:19] | Cybertoy: | and I know that the remote is sending IR since another IR receiver in the room is picking up the signal. |
| [19:54:28] | Saviq (Saviq!n=michal@83.12.67.114) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [19:59:36] | catisonh (catisonh!n=catisonh@ppp-70-226-148-171.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [20:02:41] | madfactor (madfactor!i=madfacto@74.138.57.179) has quit () | |
| [20:09:13] | Cardoe (Cardoe!n=Cardoe@gentoo/developer/Cardoe) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:09:49] | pat__ (pat__!n=pat@cust4082.qld01.aanet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:17:59] | nuongu1 (nuongu1!n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit ("Leaving.") | |
| [20:21:43] | madfactor (madfactor!i=madfacto@74.138.57.179) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:22:48] | pat_ (pat_!n=pat@cust4082.qld01.aanet.com.au) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [20:28:15] | Pete__ (Pete__!n=pete@nock.demon.co.uk) has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [20:30:34] | daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@72.173.30.109) has quit (Client Quit) | |
| [20:31:39] | Saviq (Saviq!n=michal@83.12.67.114) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:31:41] | Saviq (Saviq!n=michal@83.12.67.114) has left #mythtv-users () | |
| [20:31:45] | Saviq (Saviq!n=michal@83.12.67.114) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:32:25] | ericpersson (ericpersson!n=ericpers@c80-217-95-108.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:33:33] | croppa (croppa!n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:35:36] | nelius (nelius!n=nelius@pD9E0D979.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep") | |
| [20:37:08] | Saviq: | does any one of You guys use myth's UPnP support? |
| [20:37:44] | GreyFoxx: | I use it to stream everything from my backend to my frontends for mythvideo |
| [20:37:58] | GreyFoxx: | and briefly with aDlink DSM-320 |
| [20:38:05] | Krazylegz: | Which -vo option to people usually use with mplayer? xv ? |
| [20:38:27] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: Most likely for those that use mplayer |
| [20:38:38] | Krazylegz: | I don't think mplayer got compiled with any options I can use to output to the television. |
| [20:38:42] | Saviq: | hmm... how do I choose which media will be streamed? can I at all serve music files? |
| [20:38:51] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: Thanks. |
| [20:39:23] | GreyFoxx: | Saviq: Myth will attempt to stream whatever music has been scanned into mythmusic, and your video recordings will be available |
| [20:39:34] | ericpersson: | how do i tune channels with my tvcard in mythtv? |
| [20:39:34] | Saviq: | mhm |
| [20:39:44] | GreyFoxx: | If you are running svn then you can also use it to service mythvideo scanned in videos too |
| [20:40:00] | Saviq: | I only need music for now |
| [20:40:15] | Saviq: | but damn my amp does not want to connect :| |
| [20:43:01] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [20:44:04] | ericpersson: | what to do if the channel scan doesnt return anything? |
| [20:49:41] | recurs|ve (recurs|ve!n=adamklun@74-135-54-210.dhcp.insightbb.com) has quit () | |
| [20:50:06] | chickeneater (chickeneater!n=lastlee@unaffiliated/chickeneater) has quit ("GeForce FX6200") | |
| [20:51:38] | _LM_: | Does anyone know if MythTV kan record DVB-streams that are encoded in H.264 |
| [20:54:39] | addy2 (addy2!n=addy@ip68-100-46-49.dc.dc.cox.net) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [20:56:37] | ille: | _LM_: it can, I think it is able in 0.20, but the HW requirement to play them is huge. |
| [20:57:24] | _LM_: | OK, Nice, then I'll order a HD-tv subscriptin and start to test it :) |
| [20:58:39] | ille: | _LM_: DVB-T/S or C ? |
| [20:59:07] | _LM_: | DVB-C |
| [21:00:22] | robbins876 (robbins876!n=robbins8@209.159.197.59) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:00:40] | ille: | _LM_: ok dunno if any one tried H.264 that way yet. |
| [21:01:07] | _LM_: | Someone's got to be the first :-) |
| [21:02:25] | ille: | _LM_: I have a DVB-C card but my provider has not HD yet. |
| [21:03:47] | Jasper (Jasper!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:03:50] | Jasper: | hello people |
| [21:04:04] | Jasper: | can anyone tell me how to set security on mythweb? |
| [21:05:28] | ille: | _LM_: and you need a very fast CPU to decode H.264 1080i streams, like a Pentium Core 2 duo. |
| [21:06:27] | _LM_: | ille: Probably, I'll upgrade my frontend for sure if it works |
| [21:06:34] | Saviq: | how do I check if my upnp is running and where to look for it's logs? |
| [21:07:24] | GreyFoxx: | Saviq: Unless you are turnning it off, it's running. But one way is to start mythbackend with a -v upnp |
| [21:07:38] | GreyFoxx: | that will show some upnp start up lines at the start |
| [21:08:27] | Saviq: | hmm... i may have it disabled in my Packman packages... |
| [21:09:17] | GreyFoxx: | The only way to disable it is if you are running 0.20-fixes from the last month or so or SVN and are starting it with --noupnp |
| [21:09:20] | Jasper: | can anyone tell me? |
| [21:09:20] | Saviq: | 'cause I don't see no upnp related data in mythbackend output |
| [21:09:21] | clop (clop!n=jared@cpe-24-28-66-79.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:09:34] | GreyFoxx: | Saviq: what version are you running ? |
| [21:09:46] | Saviq: | mythbackend version: 0.20.20060828–3 |
| [21:10:10] | GreyFoxx: | Hmm isn't that from before 0.20 release ? |
| [21:10:23] | clop: | hi, is there a way to configure x so that an input device (mouse/keyboard) is associated only with a particular screen? |
| [21:10:52] | clop: | i want the mythtv screen to be basically totally separate and never take the mouse focus, etc. |
| [21:10:54] | Cardoe: | hey GreyFoxx |
| [21:11:02] | GreyFoxx: | yo |
| [21:11:07] | Cardoe: | how's it going |
| [21:11:12] | Milosch (Milosch!n=milos@cpe-72-181-162-63.houston.res.rr.com) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [21:11:34] | GreyFoxx: | good, just finishd my saturday myth updates and now it's present wrapping time since my wife is out :) |
| [21:12:10] | Saviq: | aah christmas're coming :D |
| [21:12:36] | natoka (natoka!n=natoka@81-223-219-20.static.home.xdsl-line.inode.at) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:12:44] | recurs|ve (recurs|ve!n=adamklun@74-133-237-200.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:12:46] | Jasper: | can anyone tlel me how to set security on mythweb? |
| [21:14:04] | Saviq: | Jasper: I believe that You've asked that before, and as noone replied, |
| [21:14:10] | Saviq: | they probably can't |
| [21:14:45] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper: Google for Apache and .htaccess |
| [21:16:56] | Jasper: | Saviq thx for the heads up but they could have overread it.. |
| [21:17:51] | Saviq: | ;] |
| [21:19:27] | Cardoe: | Jasper: it's in the .htaccess file for mythweb |
| [21:19:30] | Cardoe: | a whole instruction set |
| [21:19:42] | Cardoe: | GreyFoxx: heh good timing for that. |
| [21:19:59] | Cardoe: | I probably need to roll a new mythtv patchset |
| [21:20:27] | ericpersson: | how do i get the channels frequencies? i looked at my cable providers site, but nothing, any hints? |
| [21:21:15] | natoka: | ericpersson: there are several ways for doing that automatically with your card |
| [21:21:48] | natoka: | ericpersson: e.g. you can use tzap / szap and use their output in mythtv ... |
| [21:21:51] | ericpersson: | yeah, i tried ivtv-tune for example, but i couldnt determine what was what.. |
| [21:21:58] | ericpersson: | hmm.. |
| [21:22:00] | ericpersson: | tzap.. |
| [21:22:26] | natoka: | ericpersson: in case you own a dvb-s or dvb-t card ... |
| [21:22:38] | ericpersson: | its a regular analog card.. |
| [21:23:06] | ericpersson: | i could do it manually perhaps, as with a "normal" tv, just search up and down and set the channels? but how? |
| [21:24:48] | ericpersson: | any hints with that? |
| [21:28:20] | sandeen (sandeen!n=sandeen@sandeen.net) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep") | |
| [21:32:45] | natoka: | ericpersson: http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Ptune-ui |
| [21:33:19] | ericpersson: | mm.. thanks, i'll have a look, i just tried xawtv, but i must have done something wrong.. |
| [21:35:29] | natoka: | ericpersson: xawtv is quite old and not really recommended ... |
| [21:35:35] | ericpersson: | ok |
| [21:36:20] | natoka: | ericpersson: though you could use it |
| [21:37:50] | ericpersson: | seems like i have ptune already, will try that instead.. |
| [21:39:36] | ericpersson: | natoka: i wont get to see what channel im tuning? |
| [21:39:50] | recurs|ve (recurs|ve!n=adamklun@74-133-237-200.dhcp.insightbb.com) has quit (Connection timed out) | |
| [21:44:38] | Jasper (Jasper!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has quit () | |
| [21:45:24] | croppa (croppa!n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has quit ("Konversation terminated!") | |
| [21:45:57] | aranc23 (aranc23!n=spin@12-215-117-64.client.mchsi.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:45:59] | natoka: | ericpersson: i quite don't get your meaning |
| [21:47:14] | ericpersson: | natoka: ptune doesnt give me any feedback on whats happening, and i dont know what options to select.. |
| [21:48:01] | natoka: | ericpersson: i think that ptune-ui is perhaps a bit better |
| [21:48:30] | ericpersson: | how do you mean? |
| [21:50:06] | natoka: | when i'm not completely wrong, you could just attach mplayer to your ivtv dev, and then use ptune-ui to search for channels |
| [21:51:23] | fiveiron: | hey anyone using lirc on ubuntu? |
| [21:51:32] | ericpersson: | hmm..perhaps so, good idea, i'll give it a try.. |
| [21:55:08] | natoka: | fiveiron: iirc don't ask meta questions |
| [21:56:58] | fiveiron: | ok then, does anyone know why a default install of lirc, with a kernel module compiled and installed correctly, and a brand new serial port IR receiver hooked up, would not return anything when "mode2 -d /devl/lirc0" is entered |
| [22:01:07] | ericpersson: | natoka: how would i know what pal mode(the pal-i, pal-n) or what pal range(pal-europe-west) ? |
| [22:03:31] | chickeneater (chickeneater!n=lastlee@unaffiliated/chickeneater) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:04:00] | natoka: | ericpersson: either use google and be lucky ;) or trial and error |
| [22:04:50] | ericpersson: | natoka: hehe.. well, seems like such a task.. the thing that worries me is that the black-and-white fuzz in mplayer, doesnt change anything when i change frequency.. |
| [22:07:06] | natoka: | ericpersson: if you've got win**, you have a look into what channels the original software finds |
| [22:07:14] | recurs|ve (recurs|ve!n=adamklun@74-135-54-210.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:07:30] | natoka: | s/you// |
| [22:07:35] | ericpersson: | natoka: well, that would be cheating, wont it? ;) no, doesnt have one.. |
| [22:08:37] | natoka: | ericpersson: perhaps having a look at it with a normal tv might help too |
| [22:08:49] | ericpersson: | yeah.. |
| [22:09:10] | ericpersson: | is there a relation between what my tv shows(VHF4) and to a frequency? |
| [22:09:27] | natoka: | ericpersson: of course |
| [22:10:51] | natoka: | ericpersson: so perhaps it's better for you to translate the settings of your tv ;) |
| [22:11:19] | ericpersson: | yeah, perhaps.. |
| [22:11:25] | Gumby (Gumby!n=terry@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:12:00] | ericpersson: | all those topics with this tvstuff is very hard to google for, |
| [22:12:22] | chickeneater (chickeneater!n=lastlee@unaffiliated/chickeneater) has quit ("leaving") | |
| [22:12:44] | croppa (croppa!n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:12:52] | WhiteRabit (WhiteRabit!n=mythtv@rrcs-71-42-147-7.sw.biz.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:13:13] | natoka: | ericpersson: it's never easy ;) |
| [22:13:21] | WhiteRabit: | hey folks... where can i find the eth1394 module? I'm hooking up my new cablebox to an ubuntu machine |
| [22:13:24] | WhiteRabit: | everything i can find about eth1394 says it's a bitch and gives instructions how to disable it, but the mythtv wiki says its required so...... |
| [22:13:29] | catisonh (catisonh!n=catisonh@ppp-70-226-148-171.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:13:44] | natoka: | WhiteRabit: it's a kernel module |
| [22:13:55] | ericpersson: | natoka: well, thanks for your time anyway, at least i have black and white "ant-war" on my screen now.,. |
| [22:14:07] | natoka: | either you've got it or you'll have to recompile your kernel |
| [22:15:02] | natoka: | ericpersson: ;) |
| [22:15:02] | natoka: | ericpersson: enjoy ;) |
| [22:15:03] | WhiteRabit: | i know its a newbie question |
| [22:15:04] | WhiteRabit: | i just cant remember the command |
| [22:15:27] | fiveiron: | i'm utterly amazed at the lack of information on troubleshooting lirc.... |
| [22:15:35] | quicksilver: | WhiteRabit: locate eth1394 |
| [22:15:39] | quicksilver: | to see if you have it at all |
| [22:15:44] | WhiteRabit: | and i'm wading through a bunch of information and im amazed i just can't find what i'm looking for |
| [22:15:46] | quicksilver: | then modprobe eth1394 if you did |
| [22:16:10] | WhiteRabit: | modprobe! thanks |
| [22:16:43] | GreyFoxx: | Saviq: If that was you that posted to the -users list about the upnp server I just replied :) |
| [22:18:42] | ericpersson: | natoka: at least got an error now, "tuner 0–0061: tuner type not set" |
| [22:20:56] | xris (xris!n=xris@xris.forevermore.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:20:57] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v xris | |
| [22:22:12] | natoka: | ericpersson: as far as i can remember that can combined with the black/white screen imply that you should choose a specific tuner type or settings |
| [22:22:28] | bab (bab!n=bab@pool-72-85-212-167.bstnma.east.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:22:39] | bab: | b> Hi I am having a lot of trouble with getting mythtv to actully display the video so I can watch tv I can watch it using cat /dev/video0 |
| [22:22:41] | ericpersson: | yeah, seems like it, well, i'm googling for it now.. |
| [22:22:44] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:23:16] | jasta (jasta!n=jasta@71-35-174-48.tukw.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:23:28] | natoka: | ericpersson: i think the developer page of ivtv is the best resource in that case |
| [22:23:38] | WhiteRabit (WhiteRabit!n=mythtv@rrcs-71-42-147-7.sw.biz.rr.com) has left #mythtv-users () | |
| [22:28:06] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [22:29:45] | scott_ (scott_!n=scott_@cpe-66-74-236-252.socal.res.rr.com) has quit ("disabling onboard sound!") | |
| [22:32:28] | ericpersson: | natoka: i'll be damn, i got picture.. :) |
| [22:33:24] | ericpersson: | its not always problem to find the soloution, might be just as hard to find the real problem... |
| [22:35:00] | fiveiron: | this is ridiculous. this stupid IR receiver just can NOT be this hard to set up.... |
| [22:35:02] | fiveiron: | *sigh* |
| [22:37:02] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:39:42] | Dr_willis_ (Dr_willis_!n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:39:44] | willis__ (willis__!n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:40:33] | recurs|ve_ (recurs|ve_!n=adamklun@74-135-54-210.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:40:39] | recurs|ve (recurs|ve!n=adamklun@74-135-54-210.dhcp.insightbb.com) has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [22:43:46] | chickeneater (chickeneater!n=lastlee@unaffiliated/chickeneater) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:44:19] | natoka: | fiveiron: home made ir receiver ? |
| [22:44:27] | fiveiron: | irblaster |
| [22:44:31] | fiveiron: | from irblaster.info |
| [22:44:42] | fiveiron: | nicely made homebrew |
| [22:44:51] | fiveiron: | serial |
| [22:45:10] | fiveiron: | i've done everything i've found on the net ... followed all the tuts on lirc.org/etc |
| [22:45:44] | fiveiron: | when i run "mode2 -d /dev/lirc0" (lirc0 is the device created when i run modprobe on lirc_serial), i can press buttons all day and not see anything |
| [22:46:47] | natoka: | lol |
| [22:47:08] | fiveiron: | ? |
| [22:48:17] | natoka: | nevermind, some sort of brainbug regarding doing things yourself and not relying on the work of others ... |
| [22:48:37] | fiveiron: | .... |
| [22:48:38] | natoka: | fiveiron: still, the page is quite illusive |
| [22:48:50] | natoka: | fiveiron: it's not even telling you the electronic details |
| [22:48:57] | fiveiron: | ? |
| [22:50:09] | hashbang (hashbang!n=nosuch@213-152-35-50.dsl.eclipse.net.uk) has quit ("Client exiting") | |
| [22:50:24] | Dr_willis_ (Dr_willis_!n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [22:50:25] | Dr_willis (Dr_willis!n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [22:50:26] | willis__ (willis__!n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [22:51:41] | natoka: | fiveiron: whether it is using a low or high signal |
| [22:51:53] | natoka: | fiveiron: most likely it is low ... |
| [22:52:02] | fiveiron: | no idea what you're talking about |
| [22:52:27] | natoka: | fiveiron: just figure out the serial port you attached it to |
| [22:52:45] | natoka: | fiveiron: and give modprobe lirc_serial the right io and irq |
| [22:54:06] | coolego1 (coolego1!i=coolego1@cpe-24-195-130-233.nycap.res.rr.com) has quit (Nick collision from services.) | |
| [22:54:16] | natoka: | fiveiron: and if syslog doens't tell you that it: auto-detected active low receiver |
| [22:54:29] | natoka: | fiveiron: it's most likely broken hardware |
| [22:54:42] | fiveiron: | natoka: on that note... i've only got one serial port... so i'm assuming its /dev/ttyS0 ... ?? |
| [22:54:56] | natoka: | either regarding your serial port, or the ir receiver |
| [22:55:55] | natoka: | fiveiron: most likely, but io/irq settings may vary, have a look at your bios settings |
| [22:56:21] | natoka: | because cat /proc/ports is sometimes not really complete |
| [22:56:51] | fiveiron: | i've been looking at /proc/tty/driver/serial |
| [22:57:19] | psofa (psofa!n=psofa@ppp79-189.adsl.forthnet.gr) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [22:57:31] | natoka: | fiveiron: hmm, that should be fine |
| [22:57:50] | natoka: | fiveiron: and lirc_serial loads fine? |
| [22:58:02] | fiveiron: | i'm just running "modprobe lirc_serial" |
| [22:58:03] | natoka: | fiveiron: telling you that it autodetected ? |
| [22:58:12] | fiveiron: | am i supposed to be passing it more variables? |
| [22:58:18] | fiveiron: | irq/io ? |
| [22:58:43] | natoka: | fiveiron: that might not work, because lirc_serial seems to look at com2 in the first instance |
| [22:58:55] | natoka: | fiveiron: so you'll need irq/io for com1 |
| [22:59:07] | fiveiron: | k one sec |
| [22:59:13] | bab: | I still can not get mythtv to display any video, I am not sure what I am missing I have been going through the set up all day |
| [22:59:21] | fiveiron: | i just did an rmmod on lirc_serial.. now its complaining when i try to add it again |
| [22:59:35] | natoka: | fiveiron: error msg? |
| [23:00:04] | fiveiron: | "Invalid flag: /sbin/modprobe FATAL: Error running install command for lirc_serial" |
| [23:00:14] | natoka: | bab: channel listings are complete? |
| [23:00:46] | natoka: | fiveiron: some borked line in /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| [23:01:03] | fiveiron: | ah |
| [23:01:05] | fiveiron: | that would be it |
| [23:01:06] | fiveiron: | one sec |
| [23:01:10] | natoka: | fiveiron: starting with install |
| [23:01:15] | bab: | natoka, yes I can see the channel listings |
| [23:01:46] | natoka: | bab: i'm not asking whether they can be seen, but if they are complete with tuning information |
| [23:02:01] | bab: | natoka, how do I tell that? |
| [23:03:04] | bab: | natoka, do I want the default input tunner or composite under capture cards? |
| [23:03:18] | natoka: | bab: the problem i ran into some time ago, was that i filled the database with the channel information, but forgot to add the frequency stuff |
| [23:03:47] | bab: | I am using one eintv-pvr 350 and one 500 |
| [23:03:49] | natoka: | perhaps you ran into the same prob |
| [23:04:00] | bab: | how do I check |
| [23:04:15] | natoka: | bab: using sql ... |
| [23:04:57] | bab: | which table |
| [23:05:34] | stuart_ (stuart_!n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:06:33] | bab: | I am using Wintv-pvr 350 and one 500 do I want the default input to be runner or composite under capture cards? |
| [23:09:46] | natoka: | i think composite doesn't use a tuner, its just for transmitting a video signal ... |
| [23:10:22] | hatredx (hatredx!n=odium@c-68-43-186-25.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:10:29] | natoka: | bab: and the table should be called channel or somethink alike; use show tables; for searching |
| [23:10:42] | WhiteRabbit (WhiteRabbit!n=mythtv@rrcs-71-42-147-7.sw.biz.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:11:15] | natoka: | fiveiron: does it work now? |
| [23:11:53] | bab: | natoka, yup I got channel listings in there |
| [23:13:19] | bab: | nope I have had channel listings the whole time, but still no video |
| [23:15:29] | fiveiron: | natoka: one sec... i'll paste error from messages |
| [23:16:09] | five_linux (five_linux!n=fiveiron@74-137-145-70.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:16:20] | natoka: | bab: channel listings allone is not an indicator for frequency information |
| [23:16:37] | natoka: | i mean that the listing can lack the info |
| [23:17:03] | five_linux: | natoka: join #paste |
| [23:17:18] | Sembiance: | Anyone here record HDTV with Myth? |
| [23:17:55] | Sembiance: | I just got my HDHomeRun box working with Myth, and it records just fine, it's just that the video is in 1080i, very big and isn't cropped correctly for 16:9 ratio viewing |
| [23:18:01] | bab: | natoka the freqid table has values |
| [23:18:22] | Sembiance: | Can mythbackend convert these recordings into something like Xvid? |
| [23:18:47] | hatredx: | transcoding options perhaps? |
| [23:20:39] | croppa (croppa!n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has quit (Success) | |
| [23:20:52] | natoka: | five_linux: as i thought, lirc_serial tries com2 first |
| [23:22:22] | natoka: | five_linux: most likely the following will work better, if the io/irq are correct – otherwise you might freeze your system – and prior setserial was used accordingly |
| [23:22:25] | natoka: | five_linux: modprobe lirc_serial io=0x3f8 irq=4 |
| [23:24:03] | Sembiance: | hatredx |
| [23:24:12] | Sembiance: | hatredx: Where is transcoding configured at? mythtv-setup? |
| [23:24:20] | Sembiance: | hatredx: or is that done in mythfrontend ? |
| [23:24:35] | jb___ (jb___!n=joerg@p54A3ABE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has quit ("Lost terminal") | |
| [23:25:06] | visi (visi!n=real@c-67-177-29-181.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has quit ("That's right, quit.") | |
| [23:26:53] | fiveiron: | natoka: will try |
| [23:28:15] | WZ__ (WZ__!n=useru@S0106000c414b8569.cg.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:28:35] | degreseven (degreseven!n=bryan@c-71-227-220-4.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:34:05] | Blaksmith (Blaksmith!n=blak@ip67-94-36-93.z36-94-67.customer.algx.net) has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [23:35:40] | ericpersson (ericpersson!n=ericpers@c80-217-95-108.bredband.comhem.se) has quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") | |
| [23:36:04] | stuart_ is now known as croppa | |
| [23:36:44] | noct3rn (noct3rn!n=Stanza@c-67-184-66-198.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has quit ("Leaving") | |
| [23:39:28] | fiveiron: | natoka: HEY |
| [23:39:43] | natoka: | ? |
| [23:39:44] | fiveiron: | natoka: auto-detected active high receiver |
| [23:40:05] | fiveiron: | natoka: "lirc_dev: lirc_registered_plugin: sample_rate: 0" |
| [23:40:17] | fiveiron: | but it still doesnt do anything when i try mode2.... :-( |
| [23:40:50] | five_linux (five_linux!n=fiveiron@74-137-145-70.dhcp.insightbb.com) has quit ("bleh") | |
| [23:40:55] | natoka: | most likely the link /dev/lirc -> /dev/lirc0 is missing |
| [23:41:14] | fiveiron: | i'm using "mode2 -d /dev/lirc0" |
| [23:41:17] | fiveiron: | :-P |
| [23:41:28] | aranc23 (aranc23!n=spin@12-215-117-64.client.mchsi.com) has quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") | |
| [23:41:36] | fiveiron: | should lircd be running? |
| [23:41:49] | natoka: | lircd should not be running |
| [23:42:17] | fiveiron: | stopped it; tried mode2 -d /dev/lirc0 again... still nothing |
| [23:44:38] | ectospasm (ectospasm!n=ectospas@adsl-146-237-69.mob.bellsouth.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [23:45:39] | natoka: | fiveiron: as long as you get active high receiver instead of active low receiver something is most likely not working |
| [23:46:00] | natoka: | fiveiron: i'd suggest using setserial to iron out com1 & com2 |
| [23:46:15] | natoka: | fiveiron: and then try com1, then com2 |
| [23:52:53] | NAiL (NAiL!n=repvik@nslu2-linux/pdpc.active.NAiL) has left #mythtv-users () | |
| [23:52:56] | asdfasdfasdf (asdfasdfasdf!n=robbins8@209.159.197.59) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:52:57] | asdfasdfasdf (asdfasdfasdf!n=robbins8@209.159.197.59) has quit (Client Quit) | |
| [23:56:31] | manuleviking_ (manuleviking_!n=Tux@ANice-151-1-90-182.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:56:49] | robbins876 (robbins876!n=robbins8@209.159.197.59) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [23:59:58] | natoka: | hmm, how can i get rid off this prescaling ? |
IRC Logs collected by
BeirdoBot.
Please use the above link to report any bugs.