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[00:16:07] gu014: can the zaptoit be renewed or do i have to create another account upon expiration?
[00:16:38] |Torg|: yes you can renew it
[00:17:15] gu014: |Torg|, thank you
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[00:33:57] xris: gu014: they'll hopefully email you
[00:34:13] xris: there was a period when the email system was broken, but I've gotten the last 2 notifications just fine.
[00:35:20] jams: in the last 2 years I have recieved one email
[00:35:44] jams: maybe it gets flagged as spam
[00:35:46] gu014: xris: awesome
[00:37:16] xris: gu014: otherwise, just make sure to log in every 3 months and answer the survey (which lately has been "click this submit button")
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[00:39:37] |Torg|: how much would getting agp to work on an nvidia card speed it up consdering its being used in 2D not 3D mode?
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[00:43:36] xris: |Torg|: "getting agp to work"? Usually a card either is or isn't agp.
[00:46:56] gu014: i am unable to obtain the correct time settings...i just did a 'hwclock --systohc'..then rebooted and the time is still not correct..any suggestions?
[00:47:18] gu014: 'tzconfig' is correct
[00:47:25] |Torg|: the crd is agp, it loads the agpgart driver, I have NVAGP set to 1
[00:47:39] |Torg|: the card sttus in /proc still calims it is disabled
[00:48:00] |Torg|: there isnt a damn ting in dmesg or messages other then when the driver loads, it dosnt seem to find anything
[00:48:15] |Torg|: other then requesting agp mode I can only see the request
[00:48:25] |Torg|: so is there some trick to get it to work?
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[00:52:02] BULLE: |Torg|: very silly q, are you sure you are loading the right agp-gart driver and that the kernel doesnt have any other gart driver already precompiled, that have given me silent failures in the past
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[00:59:02] |Torg|: im loading agpgart and via_agp
[00:59:11] |Torg|: agpgart 30416 2 via_agp,nvidia
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[01:01:45] rogue781: hey I'm getting the error: Failed to init MythContext, exiting. I keep trying to set the mysql password and all that jazz, but it keeps reverting each time run mythfrontend, and I get the aforementioned error.
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[01:02:54] rogue780: please direct any responses to rogue781 to me
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[01:10:01] xris: rogue780: mysql.txt
[01:11:15] rogue780: again, a reboot fixed my problems.
[01:11:16] rogue780: go figure
[01:12:32] rogue780: xris, do you know what unichrome drivers to install for a epia motherboard?
[01:12:40] rogue780: epia CN1000EG to be exact
[01:16:49] rogue780: err--more specifically, how to configure xorg.conf for the driver, since aparently they are already installed
[01:19:42] xris: rogue780: sorry, no
[01:20:14] rogue780: xris, darnit. playback is super super jerky
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[01:41:32] ectospasm: is there any documentation that briefly describes all the necessary components of a mythtv system? I saw in the mailing list that such questions may have been answered by a FAQ, but I couldn't find that FAQ
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[01:42:30] kormoc: ectospasm, it's not all that complicated... you need a computer, a way to get tv into the computer (tv card or firewire), and a way to display the tv (monitor or vidoeo card with tv out), and a way to have input (keyboard or a remote).
[01:43:06] ectospasm: can the mythfrontend and mythbackend coexist on the system? Is this recommended?
[01:43:14] ectospasm: same system, 'scuse me
[01:43:20] jams: yep
[01:43:21] marxes: yeah, they can
[01:43:22] kormoc: ectospasm, sure can, and it works fine
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[01:44:34] ectospasm: I may be asking in the wrong place, but would recommend mythtv to someone who has never even really used any sort of DVR/PVR? Would I be better off with something like TiVO?
[01:45:00] kormoc: depends on the person
[01:45:10] kormoc: with a well setup remote, it's about as easy as a tivo
[01:45:27] kormoc: but the underlaying stuff, like keeping it running and happy isn't always so easy
[01:46:44] ectospasm: The thing that draws me to it is that it's based on Linux, and I've been dealing w/ that for years.
[01:46:57] marxes: oh then i would go for it
[01:47:03] ectospasm: that, and I don't want to pay any subscription fees if I can avoid it
[01:48:23] kormoc: if you know linux decently well and can tame mysql, you're golden
[01:50:03] ectospasm: I've gotten mysql tame before...
[01:50:57] ectospasm: The mysql db, in mythtv, what is it used for? It just stores programming schedules, etc., right? Or do the recorded programs get stored within the context of mysql?
[01:51:25] jams: it stores all the metadata and configuration
[01:52:26] ectospasm: OK
[01:53:10] jams: along with what shows have been recorded, and a bunch of other stuff
[01:53:35] ectospasm: So, how does the UI look? Does it look as good what you'd get on TiVO, or the PVR you get from the cable/satellite co?
[01:53:40] jams: the data or media is stored on disk
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[01:54:05] jams: ectospasm- screenshots can be found at mythtv.org
[01:54:19] jams: but i think the ui is better then a cable/satellite co
[01:54:29] jams: tivo might have a better ui
[01:54:36] jams: it's all subjective you know
[01:54:41] ectospasm: right
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[01:54:59] jams: There are lots of different themes you can try out
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[01:57:04] ectospasm: it looks pretty good, maybe not *quite* as slick as a professional UI, but it looks good enough to me
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[01:57:26] |Atum|: G'day all.
[01:58:05] jams: ectospasm- there are some even better themes if you look at the wiki
[01:58:33] ectospasm: cool
[01:58:54] |Atum|: Anyone around that may have any ideas for my issue I sent to the mailing list last night? :-)
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[01:59:16] |Atum|: that is...http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/240085
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[02:00:51] eidolon: can someone help me out figuring out why my main menu fonts are so small? I've tried changing the 'small' ' medium' and 'large' fonts in the setup page in mythfrontend, and restarting – they never change. my Program Guide is completely illegible :(
[02:01:17] kormoc: |Atum|, you sure the permissions on /dev/video0 is correct?
[02:01:36] kormoc: |Atum|, and have you tried rebooting?
[02:02:22] |Atum|: Yes I've rebooted, and permissions on /dev/video0 is 666
[02:02:35] |Atum|: for the purposes of testing, I am running both the backend and frontend as root
[02:03:47] jams: is that usb card a hardware encoder or software?
[02:04:02] |Atum|: That I do not know
[02:04:05] |Atum|: Let me try to find out
[02:07:13] ectospasm: I see in the documentation that, at least implicitly, they keep pushing the Hauppauge PVR-350. Is it really that well recommended, or am I just reading too much into it?
[02:08:04] jams: |Atum|- is that thing made by Hauppauge?
[02:08:11] Cybertoy: wonder if anyone can help me get my skystar 2 card to work in NA?
[02:08:14] |Atum|: Pinnacle
[02:08:23] Cybertoy: I heard that NASA TV on 119W is FTA...
[02:08:26] jams: ectospasm- i wouldn't get the 350
[02:08:28] Cybertoy: but can't even tune into that.
[02:08:36] |Atum|: I am using the em28xx driver as perscribed by v4l
[02:08:42] Cybertoy: using basic szap command...
[02:08:45] kormoc: ectospasm, it used to be *the* card, but now a pvr 150 + nvidia is considered better
[02:09:09] Cybertoy: is this entry right in the channels.conf file: nasa:12370:r:0:20000:4130:4131:213  ?
[02:10:39] gu014: is there a plugin for watching encrypted dvds in mythtv? css of some sort? im using knoppmyth
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[02:14:00] jams: gu014- check the knoppmyth wiki for dvd playing
[02:14:32] |Atum|: it appears to be software encoder
[02:14:39] |Atum|: (PCTV USB2)
[02:14:50] eidolon: hmm, the various faq's say the fonts in the program guide are defined in Settings->Appearance->Program guide, but they're not there?
[02:15:25] jams: |Atum|- I really don't know, but I would try to get it working with tvtime/xawtv first
[02:15:49] ectospasm: is there a distro that's geared specifically for mythtv? I'm most familiar w/ Gentoo, but I have experience with a lot of others...
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[02:16:10] |Atum|: it works with tvtime jams
[02:16:17] |Atum|: It works great infact :-)
[02:16:20] jams: ectospasm- there is knoppmyth and mythdora
[02:16:39] Ajaxamander_: has anyone here gotten X to work over a DVI->HDMI cable for Myth?
[02:16:40] jams: no reason gentoo won't work though
[02:17:20] eidolon: oh ho! xdpy is showing 'resolution: 34x34 dots per inch'
[02:17:22] eidolon: that might be it.
[02:17:33] Ajaxamander_: I just moved from gentoo to knoppmyth, gentoo worked great
[02:17:35] jams: eidolon- yes 100 dpi is the target
[02:17:50] eidolon: yay the mythtv wiki and asking the right question :)
[02:18:23] jams: |Atum|- sorry don't know
[02:18:34] eidolon: how can i find out what version nVidia driver i'm using?
[02:19:11] eidolon: ah, dmesg | grep -i vidi – got me 'kernel module 1.0–8774'
[02:22:49] eidolon: hmm. cept the fix is for Xorg. i believe i'm running XFree86. (this is knoppmyth)
[02:25:19] jams: eidolon- it should work, whats the fix?
[02:25:41] eidolon: it's talking about Options entries in the Xorg.conf file. which i don't have. i may have found a reference on another list though
[02:26:42] ectospasm: Does the HOWTO still hold true, and you should use XFS or JFS for your recorded programs partition?
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[02:27:15] jams: ectospasm- yes
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[02:28:08] ectospasm: so if I'm reading it right, mythdora is out of the question. If it's anything like Fedora Core, only ext2 and ext3 are available filesystems
[02:28:36] jams: don't know
[02:28:52] marxes: fedora supports other file systems
[02:29:33] ectospasm: I don't remember fedora core 4 supporting other filesystems on the install though. It's been nearly a year since I've played w/ it, so I don't know
[02:29:51] marxes: you can pass in it when you boot the installer
[02:30:02] marxes: atleast I was able to on FC6
[02:30:07] ectospasm: I always forget that option
[02:30:09] marxes: haven't looked at FC4
[02:30:23] ectospasm: I'd be surprised if it was an option on FC4
[02:30:33] ectospasm: and mythdora is based on FC4
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[02:32:19] ectospasm: so is it easy to burn shows to DVD in mythtv, so you can keep what you want without sacrificing disk space?
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[02:33:17] jams: mytharchive seems to work decent enough
[02:34:04] jams: it's a heck of a lot easier if you use mpeg hardeware encodedercards (pvr-x50)
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[02:38:44] kormoc: ectospasm, http://www.fedorafaq.org/fc4/#reiserjfs
[02:39:02] ectospasm: Has the broadcast flag kicked in yet? I haven't been keeping up with my EFF info...
[02:40:03] GreyFoxx: that ws shotdown a year and a half ago now I think
[02:40:25] ectospasm: they always made warning that it was never quite dead
[02:40:52] GreyFoxx: still dead right now
[02:41:20] ectospasm: OK, so I don't have to worry about looking for older cards w/o the flag
[02:41:27] jams: nope
[02:41:54] jams: I don't know of any linux supported cards that support the flag
[02:42:31] ectospasm: Well, I'd be pretty sure the drivers _wouldn't_ support the flag, and would try to workaround it in software.
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[02:44:09] ectospasm: but that may be prohibited by the DMCA, heheheheh
[02:45:22] ectospasm: So if I got a pvr-150 that came w/ a remote, is that worth it?
[02:45:40] marxes: do you have HD ?
[02:45:56] ectospasm: Not yet
[02:46:12] ectospasm: but I will be moving soon, so I'm just planning for the future
[02:46:37] kormoc: ectospasm, if you're gonna go HD soon, you likely shouldn't bother with a pvr card
[02:46:52] ectospasm: OK
[02:47:00] kormoc: ectospasm, are you in the US?
[02:47:04] ectospasm: yup
[02:47:31] kormoc: you should be able to request a cable box with firewire out when you get HD cable, myth can capture off of the cable box without a tvcard
[02:47:37] kormoc: that's the best way to handle hdtv
[02:48:02] marxes: I want to get that working
[02:48:04] ectospasm: will I be able to record non-HD signals using that same setup?
[02:48:10] kormoc: usually, aye
[02:48:43] kormoc: there's been a few users who have issues with it, but the majority have it working quite fine
[02:48:45] marxes: I have a pvr-350, but I want to get that firewire setup
[02:49:11] marxes: I have that motorola box that everyone has been using also
[02:49:47] ectospasm: so basically I just need a firewire card, a good video card (with TV-Out?), and a big hard drive...
[02:49:51] marxes: I want to get my pvr-350 working before I start with the firewire
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[02:50:03] kormoc: ectospasm, aye
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[02:50:14] quantum: anybody out there
[02:50:27] kormoc: ectospasm, if you get a hdtv that takes DVI or HDMI, you can use the dvi on your videocard to power the tv, so it acts like a bit monitor
[02:50:39] kormoc: quantum, nope
[02:50:50] quantum: I am trying to find out if the internet streams option on mythtv actually works
[02:50:55] Spicerun: Has there been any progress in identifying the lockups between Xorg=7.1 and Nvidia drivers?
[02:51:01] quantum: it just kind of does nothing when I select a station
[02:51:11] kormoc: Spicerun, they should all be happy in the new nvidia driver
[02:51:18] kormoc: quantum, what internet stream option?
[02:51:48] quantum: well it comes up under media library
[02:52:06] kormoc: what plugin did you install to get it?
[02:52:15] quantum: hmm don't remember
[02:52:25] jams: mythstream?
[02:52:33] quantum: sounds familiar
[02:52:54] quantum: any idea if it really works
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[02:53:46] kormoc: it's not an offical plugin, so it's not really supported, thus it might just need to be updated
[02:54:23] quantum: o.k. well now that I know what to search for that should help, looks pretty cool if it works
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[02:57:16] marxes: kormoc, I'm interested about hdmi out's on the hd cards
[02:57:22] quantum: I am getting this problem with a lot of mpg files being left in the directory. I have both mpg and nuv files of the same name
[02:57:44] kormoc: marxes, HDMI is just dvi + audio on one cable. you can buy adapters to convert DVI to HDMI
[02:57:44] marxes: x probably looks much better, no overscan? with that setup?
[02:57:54] kormoc: right, it's pure digital
[02:57:54] quantum: actually I take that back they arn't necessary the same name
[02:57:55] marxes: oh, i didn't know that
[02:58:27] quantum: looks like some things are not being ranscoded maybe or something, weird. how do I end up with mpg files in my directory. I have the PVR 250
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[02:58:55] kormoc: quantum, the 250 records by default into mpg files, after you transcode them, they'd be nuv
[02:59:48] quantum: well seems like a lot of stuff must not be transcoding for some reason, but some stuff is weird
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[03:01:35] eidolon: stooopid question. where do i set my timezone? my program guide entries are off by 5 hours. i know i saw this somewhere, i just can't remember where.
[03:02:10] kormoc: eidolon, depends on the distro
[03:05:31] quantum: looks like about 20% of my recording end up as mpg instead of nuv. not sure how to correct this. wonder why it isn't transcoding some of the stuff
[03:06:10] GreyFoxx: might not be caught up yet ?
[03:06:19] GreyFoxx: transcoding isn't quick :)
[03:06:31] eidolon: kormoc: this is knopppmyth
[03:06:43] quantum: no they are over many months
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[03:11:54] seth|laptop: ok who knows gentoo?
[03:13:04] jams: #gentoo-mythtv ?
[03:13:14] seth|laptop: new build,I have all the dvb stuff buit into the kernel, yet it says failed to open device
[03:13:16] seth|laptop: yes
[03:18:06] Cybertoy: ok ... so ... I ripped a DVD and now have this big iso file...
[03:18:21] Cybertoy: what can I do with that? I can't seem to watch it, right?
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[03:30:49] quantum: when I do a yum update myth*, do I need to reboot afterwords or restart the frontend and backend or is that automatic
[03:33:26] h|barbobot: well thanks to your faq i solved my problem
[03:33:30] h|barbobot: thanks :)
[03:33:51] quantum: lucky you
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[03:38:21] markl_: mythtv backend is filling my logs with weird messages, and won't actually record anything. the message looks like this:
[03:38:32] markl_: 006-12–05 20:39:14.542 Could not find channel 5_2 in TVCT
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[03:39:04] markl_: Channel #0 name(KSL-HD) 5–1 mod(ATSC 8-VSB) cTSID(0xbbb) pnum(3) ETM_loc(0) access_ctrl(0) hidden(0) hide_guide(0) service_type(2) sourc
[03:39:07] markl_: e_id(3)
[03:39:10] markl_: ...
[03:39:14] markl_: and zap2it seems to be giving errors too
[03:39:29] markl_: any idea what to try?
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[03:40:49] markl_: it was working fine until thursday or so
[03:41:26] markl_: dtvsignal shows that the channels get a great signal
[03:44:48] sandeen: hmm is there a way to delete -one- capture card?
[03:44:55] ** sandeen only sees delete all **
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[03:56:04] sandeen: if I import a channels.conf file, is the channel number the only thing that links my channels to zap2it data?
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[04:41:20] |Atum|: Interesting...I noticed in my dmsesg im getting a strange error saying that em28xx can only be opened once
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[05:08:46] |Atum|: arg. 10 hours into this i think im about to give up on myth
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[05:13:19] robbins876: Atum: what's the deal?
[05:13:42] |Atum|: tuner works in tvtime – load into myth tv and click LIVE TV (or record) and i get a black screen
[05:13:53] |Atum|: mythbackend.log says /dev/video0 device is busy
[05:14:24] |Atum|: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/240085 for the backend
[05:14:52] |Atum|: I've been reading crap every which way to sunday but nothing has seemed to help so far...and the card is working in tvtime
[05:24:39] ** sandeen had his hd playback working for a while tonight and now it's all foo again **
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[05:28:32] cheatersrealm: on a hauppage pvr500 it has 2 tv tuners
[05:28:46] cheatersrealm: does that mean with 1 coax, it can tune to two channels at once?
[05:30:55] |Atum|: uhj
[05:30:58] siXy: yes
[05:31:18] |Atum|: with a single cord? or will he need a splitter?
[05:31:22] |Atum|: (sorry I was just looking at that card myself)
[05:31:36] cheatersrealm: so it looks like the thing has 2 coax inputs
[05:31:43] cheatersrealm: but one is marked tv in, and the other is marked FM in
[05:31:49] siXy: single cable iirc but you might need a splitter
[05:31:49] cheatersrealm: but all I get is static
[05:32:05] |Atum|: Ohhh.
[05:32:14] |Atum|: The second might be a radio tuner not another tv tuner?
[05:32:26] cheatersrealm: well there is 2 tv tuners that linux detects
[05:32:42] |Atum|: Don't ask me I cant get my single tuner to work in mythtv :(
[05:32:43] siXy: no there are 2 tv tuners. it is basically 2 pvr-150s strapped together
[05:32:43] |Atum|: hehe
[05:32:53] cheatersrealm: yeah
[05:33:00] cheatersrealm: but does the coax in get split to each one?
[05:33:07] siXy: cheatersrealm, you prboably need to tune it a frequency
[05:33:14] siXy: yes it does
[05:33:25] cheatersrealm: hrm, I kind of got a signal
[05:33:27] cheatersrealm: horray for me
[05:33:59] cheatersrealm: I think I need to use us-cable-irc
[05:34:10] cheatersrealm: instead of us-bcast, or us-cable
[05:34:18] cheatersrealm: because us-cable-hrc works ok
[05:34:34] cheatersrealm: (better than us-cable)
[05:34:41] |Atum|: I think im convinced i just set up the driver wrong or something damn it :(
[05:35:08] cheatersrealm: lets see if this don't work
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[05:35:50] cheatersrealm: arg!
[05:35:58] cheatersrealm: it's worse now
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[05:39:42] cheatersrealm: ok, scanning for channels works with us-cable-hrc
[05:39:47] cheatersrealm: so I'm going to try that
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[05:43:18] |Atum|: well im going to build from source and see if that helpsd
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[05:46:12] cheatersrealm: I got fuzzy video now
[05:46:14] cheatersrealm: which is good
[05:46:22] cheatersrealm: before I got no video
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[05:48:44] fdsd: hey guys, I have a display that is 1366x768, its an LCD, it only has HDMI, and when its plugged into the PC it can only detect 1280x720 then it upconverts it to 1366x768 which cuts off the top and bottom of the scren
[05:48:48] fdsd: screen
[05:48:56] fdsd: any idea how I can fix that?
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[05:53:07] markl_: i have one that is the same way, i never figured out a way around it
[05:53:13] markl_: test before you buy i guess
[05:53:22] markl_: sharp aquos = P.O.S.
[05:53:47] siXy: fdsd, you will probably need a modeline in xorg.conf for that resolution
[05:53:52] |Atum|: so much for building frmo source lol
[05:54:30] fdsd: well the sharp is what I have, and the HDMI is limited to 1280x720
[05:54:32] fdsd: err
[05:54:33] cheatersrealm: I'm just gonna call up comcast
[05:54:37] cheatersrealm: be like yo, what's the frequencies
[05:54:56] fdsd: grr, its annoying, the tv is so nice
[05:55:17] siXy: fdsd, so you need a modeline to force it to use 1366x768 insteal of 1280x720
[05:55:33] fdsd: siXy, do you think I could force it?
[05:56:36] siXy: yes. google "xorg modeline"
[05:56:45] fdsd: ok cool
[05:56:48] fdsd: ill figure it out
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[05:59:02] cheatersrealm: dang comcast
[05:59:28] |Atum|: cheater what is up?
[05:59:55] cheatersrealm: I'm trying to figure out what's up with this tuner
[06:00:02] cheatersrealm: and their tech support is being slow
[06:00:10] cheatersrealm: this is the 4th time I've logged onto the web support tonight
[06:00:25] |Atum|: cheater: are you getting picture, just badly snowy?
[06:00:31] cheatersrealm: sort of
[06:00:34] |Atum|: ie channel 44 = channel 44 just poor quality?
[06:00:38] cheatersrealm: using us-cable-hrc
[06:00:42] cheatersrealm: not sure if 44=44
[06:00:45] |Atum|: or are the channels off
[06:00:47] |Atum|: ah ok
[06:00:52] cheatersrealm: I could check
[06:00:57] cheatersrealm: but it's hard to tell
[06:01:00] cheatersrealm: audio comes in OK
[06:01:15] |Atum|: How is your cable hooked up?
[06:01:20] |Atum|: any splitters, etc?
[06:01:24] cheatersrealm: ok
[06:01:27] cheatersrealm: comes in the wall
[06:01:32] cheatersrealm: cable -> splitter
[06:01:38] cheatersrealm: one of those goes to my room, another to a working tv
[06:01:49] cheatersrealm: the one from my room gets split, one into tv tuner card, other into cable modem
[06:01:51] cheatersrealm: cable modem works
[06:01:55] |Atum|: hehe
[06:02:04] |Atum|: bad for your cable modem speed :-)
[06:02:08] cheatersrealm: whatever
[06:02:11] |Atum|: To be split that much
[06:02:13] cheatersrealm: they're coming out to fix that tuesday
[06:02:28] |Atum|: You may need an RF amplifier with that many splits, but I cant be sure.
[06:02:28] cheatersrealm: ok.. so
[06:02:34] cheatersrealm: 2 splits?
[06:02:39] |Atum|: On the splitters, are there -x.x DB listed
[06:02:41] |Atum|: on each 'out'
[06:03:00] cheatersrealm: it appears that 18 is 18
[06:03:16] cheatersrealm: yeah, and 17 is 17
[06:03:37] cheatersrealm: ok, the channels are correct, but snowy
[06:03:41] |Atum|: Example: my house from street I have 1 2way, -3.5, -3.5db (on both outs). One goes directly to the cable modem for maximum signal. The second split goes to another splitter that is -7, -7, -3.5 (2 outputs are -7db and one is -3.5db)
[06:03:46] cheatersrealm: like crazy psychadelic snowy
[06:04:14] |Atum|: That all said, in my house two TVs lose at LEAST -10.5 DB in signa
[06:04:15] cheatersrealm: uh, dunno, I can check
[06:04:26] |Atum|: and are noticeably lower quality as a result, especially in the upper channels
[06:05:12] cheatersrealm: no markings on my splitter
[06:05:48] cheatersrealm: but I'm assuming that if the cable modem works, and the power levels are within limits, the cable tv should work?
[06:05:55] cheatersrealm: at least better than crazy fuzzyness
[06:06:07] |Atum|: cable is a lot less picky as far as whether or not it 'works' i think :)
[06:06:13] |Atum|: but dont quote me on that
[06:06:27] |Atum|: if you plug a TV in to the one you've got your tuner plugged into
[06:06:32] |Atum|: is it as snowy?
[06:06:42] cheatersrealm: uh
[06:06:45] cheatersrealm: dunno
[06:06:53] cheatersrealm: let me go get a different tv
[06:06:57] cheatersrealm: (20 as opposed to 30 inch)
[06:09:40] cheatersrealm: no, the TV is fine
[06:10:11] cheatersrealm: now what?
[06:10:19] |Atum|: interesting
[06:10:35] |Atum|: Im going to point to some sort of tuner configuration
[06:10:44] cheatersrealm: tuner or mythtv config?
[06:10:53] |Atum|: well, lets see
[06:10:57] |Atum|: do you have tvtime installed?
[06:11:02] |Atum|: (tvtime.sourceforge.net)
[06:11:03] cheatersrealm: no
[06:11:07] cheatersrealm: want me to?
[06:11:10] |Atum|: Try installing that, see if it works in there first
[06:11:56] cheatersrealm: uh
[06:12:06] cheatersrealm: can you run tvtime over X forward?
[06:13:03] cheatersrealm: I get http://channels.debian.net/paste/4722
[06:14:21] |Atum|: I dont know *shrug*
[06:14:29] |Atum|: Im running it locally here.
[06:15:30] cheatersrealm: hrm
[06:15:45] cheatersrealm: I can just use the card to dump mpg files
[06:15:47] cheatersrealm: via a cat
[06:15:50] cheatersrealm: but it has to get tuned
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[06:21:25] |Atum|: well I think you're ahead of me *sigh*
[06:21:40] |Atum|: when I do cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg I get a file, it grows in size but i cant check it :p
[06:21:44] |Atum|: nothing will open it properly
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[06:22:14] cheatersrealm: heh
[06:22:18] cheatersrealm: I get a valid mpg file
[06:22:19] cheatersrealm: it's just static
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[06:26:53] |Atum|: O-K I think i have an issue or gotten a bit closer
[06:27:10] |Atum|: when I try to load LIVE TV (or start a recording) and I do a dmesg | grep em28xx I get another result
[06:27:20] |Atum|: it shows "em28xx #0: this driver can be opened only once
[06:27:53] cheatersrealm: hrm
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[06:28:57] |Atum|: damn it
[06:29:06] |Atum|: "its documented how to fix that just check the discussions here"
[06:29:14] |Atum|: wtf...cant this guy provide a link?
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[06:31:29] cheatersrealm: that's the worst
[06:31:51] cheatersrealm: apparently tvtime uses the hardware overlay
[06:31:56] cheatersrealm: which means no x forwarding
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[06:33:24] |Atum|: I want to uninstall all this crap and start from scratch
[06:33:35] |Atum|: now do I remove drivers that I installed via command line? arg
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[06:35:37] cheatersrealm: |Atum|: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda and re-install everything :)
[06:35:46] cheatersrealm: that will zero the drive if you run it from a livecd
[06:35:48] |Atum|: not funny ;p
[06:35:54] |Atum|: I dont
[06:37:20] |Atum|: this is my media serving computer. Mythtv was simply the final component to getting it all good
[06:37:43] cheatersrealm: same here
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[06:45:28] Mattwj2005: good evening everyone
[06:45:30] Mattwj2005: :)
[06:45:48] cheatersrealm: hey
[06:46:07] Mattwj2005: what are you up to cheater?
[06:46:29] cheatersrealm: tryna figure out what the frequencies are on my cable
[06:46:43] Mattwj2005: why do you need to know that?
[06:46:59] cheatersrealm: mythtv won't tune properly
[06:47:02] cheatersrealm: (afaict)
[06:47:39] Mattwj2005: i see
[06:48:13] Mattwj2005: your card could be having problems too
[06:48:20] Mattwj2005: I have had issues with the pvr-150
[06:48:27] cheatersrealm: I have a pvr-500
[06:48:33] cheatersrealm: so odds are, yes, it's giving issues
[06:48:56] Mattwj2005: yeah all I was getting is static....never did get it to work
[06:49:45] cheatersrealm: it seems like most everyone in here has something that doesn't work
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[06:55:44] |Atum|: no, all the idle people have working mythtv :P!
[06:57:24] siXy: hence why we are idle ;)
[06:57:37] Tronic: Yeah, mine works.
[06:57:38] cheatersrealm: yeah, once I get my crap working, I'm never coming back!
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[06:57:48] siXy: i dont use cable tv (or even any sort of analogue tv any more) so im not really the best person to help you
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[06:58:57] cheatersrealm: siXy: the other people don't have a working mythtv
[06:59:05] cheatersrealm: you might be the best one to help me :)
[06:59:34] |Atum|: holy SHI!!!! I got it working :D!
[06:59:39] cheatersrealm: horray
[07:00:26] |Atum|: I had to use a custom cvs of the em28xx driver
[07:00:44] cheatersrealm: argh
[07:00:53] cheatersrealm: anothre hour on hold, and still no frequency table
[07:01:03] |Atum|: where are you from
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[07:01:08] |Atum|: you mentioned you had comcast?
[07:01:16] cheatersrealm: yeah
[07:01:20] cheatersrealm: maryland
[07:01:24] cheatersrealm: 21210 zip code
[07:01:32] |Atum|: zbecuase if u get a hold of them, ask them for the frequencies for CMT, VH1, MTV, MTV2, and E! in 98373 and e-mail them to gallwapa@gmail.com
[07:01:32] |Atum|: :D
[07:01:37] siXy: cheatersrealm, i dont live in the usa and im not really familiar with your tv system
[07:01:40] |Atum|: becuase I can't get 61–65 working haha :)
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[07:01:54] cheatersrealm: lol
[07:02:12] cheatersrealm: |Atum|: find me in a week
[07:02:20] cheatersrealm: I'll tell you how I got stuff
[07:02:21] cheatersrealm: if I did
[07:02:25] cheatersrealm: siXy: aha
[07:02:32] |Atum|: Okay :-) cheater got an e-mail?
[07:02:37] |Atum|: I don't always have irc access hehe
[07:02:47] |Atum|: only when im home. we block 6667 at work
[07:02:54] cheatersrealm: it's called ssh forwarding
[07:02:57] cheatersrealm: it's a wonderful thing
[07:03:00] cheatersrealm: or screen + irssi
[07:03:48] siXy: cheatersrealm, freenx?
[07:03:49] |Atum|: I tried getting a ssh forwarding tunnel set up
[07:03:56] |Atum|: Couldnt quite figure it all out
[07:04:03] |Atum|: besides...
[07:04:08] cheatersrealm: with putty it's pretty easy
[07:04:12] |Atum|: I'm the network admin at work, so its more ethical than technical
[07:04:40] |Atum|: Being that I'm the be-all-end-all god to all technical systems there
[07:04:54] cheatersrealm: so, you block your own 6667
[07:05:04] cheatersrealm: and then you don't get around it?
[07:05:10] cheatersrealm: my school blocked it
[07:05:18] cheatersrealm: I tunneled out through a computer lab
[07:05:21] siXy: cheatersrealm, leaving 666* outgoing open on a corp network is a massive security risk
[07:05:49] siXy: lots of torjans use silent irc clients to get sensitive info out
[07:06:00] cheatersrealm: yea I guess
[07:06:12] cheatersrealm: but I would still go around it for my own use
[07:06:26] cheatersrealm: or, alternatively, use ssh to my home computer
[07:07:01] siXy: i use nx to my home computer. allows me to use irc and avoids having to circumvent the security principles
[07:07:22] cheatersrealm: :)
[07:08:06] |Atum|: interesting, now i have to find out how to schedule it to auto record and all the fun stuff
[07:08:16] |Atum|: :D
[07:08:25] cheatersrealm: frequency table = wtf
[07:08:33] cheatersrealm: if I set it to us-cable
[07:08:35] cheatersrealm: it doesn't work
[07:08:39] cheatersrealm: it blatantly should work on that
[07:09:22] |Atum|: Im using us-cable and its working...
[07:09:34] |Atum|: cheater: is it possible the driver for your tuner isnt working correctly?
[07:09:47] cheatersrealm: |Atum|: I can't test it
[07:09:49] cheatersrealm: because I can't tune it
[07:09:54] cheatersrealm: but I think it is
[07:09:59] cheatersrealm: I just get really staticy stuff
[07:11:28] |Atum|: hmm
[07:11:33] |Atum|: do you have to use xforwarding?
[07:11:39] cheatersrealm: what did you put for tv-format
[07:11:41] |Atum|: Seeing if it worked in tvtime would be a good test
[07:11:45] cheatersrealm: uh, kind of
[07:11:54] cheatersrealm: I might put it in another computer
[07:11:57] cheatersrealm: but that'd be next week
[07:12:21] cheatersrealm: tv format and vbi format
[07:12:21] |Atum|: I just hooked up another monitor to the computer for testing.
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[07:14:04] cheatersrealm: well it's got a monitor
[07:14:10] cheatersrealm: but installing X is gonna be a big pain
[07:14:36] cheatersrealm: whatever, nevermind
[07:14:39] cheatersrealm: I'm out
[07:14:43] cheatersrealm: I'll be back on tuesday to sort this out
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[09:31:55] Mattwj2005: wow quiet room :)
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[11:26:23] juski: yeah it's quiet – that means everybody's mythtv boxes are working juuust fine ;)
[11:27:28] Merlin83b: Hehe
[11:28:04] Zider: juski: no it means they're all in the asylum after trying to get it working ;)
[11:29:45] juski: so we're the carers in the community then. nice :)
[11:30:17] Zider: :D
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[12:26:56] juski: looking at big flat screen prices again. where are all the 16:9 resolution ones? all this 1366x768 rubbish is surely no good
[12:28:35] juski: whoops. wrong again
[12:30:32] Merlin83b: I now have 2 19" flat panels at work. It's lovely :)
[12:31:54] juski: I want this one: http://www.richersounds.co.uk/showproduct.php . . . -KDL46W2000U
[12:32:17] juski: 1080p for less than 2.5 grand
[12:32:21] juski: at long last
[12:32:34] juski: oh damn it's LCD
[12:35:39] Merlin83b: It'd be good if RS said the response times and stuff.
[12:37:07] juski: and gave a number from 1 to 10 for how good the black is
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[12:52:46] juski: anyone fancy doing some fact-checking for a laugh? http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/issue/71/Medi . . . h_MythTV.pdf
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[13:01:55] Kizmet: Has anyone had any success using a TwinHan Sat-CI (Mantis 10340) ? I have a paytv provider and I am looking at hooking up my Myth box and this card is the only one that I can source locally for under $400
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[13:13:01] janneg: Kizmet: I think the linux driver for that card is still in development. http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/info/ . . . XP-MCE-.html might be a much cheaper alternative
[13:14:04] janneg: the shop ships world wide and is told to be reliable
[13:17:52] Kizmet: thx
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[14:04:23] seth|laptop: ok who here runs gentoo for their myth boxen?
[14:04:30] Zider: me
[14:04:45] seth|laptop: do you use HD, or rather dvb card(s)?
[14:04:51] Zider: nope
[14:04:53] seth|laptop: damn
[14:05:03] Zider: don't have any tuner card yet
[14:05:08] seth|laptop: i built the modules into the kernel, however, no dvb card
[14:05:28] janneg: I do, why? please ask specific questions
[14:05:31] Zider: but I'll check if my cable tv supplier has firewire boxes so I can connect that to the box
[14:05:45] seth|laptop: I'm wondering if there might be a dvb package I need to emerge to make the stinking things work, I emerge ivtv, and now my pvr cards wortk
[14:06:37] janneg: did you built the the drivers as modules?
[14:07:55] janneg: it should work out-of-the-box if you don't need a firmware
[14:08:40] janneg: with ivtv the situation is different since the main driver is not in the kernel
[14:09:46] seth|laptop: janneg: I did "M" almost every dvb card in device drives v4l, but it still doesn't see it, perhaps mine need firmware. It is an air2pc rev. 2 card
[14:10:32] seth|laptop: yeah I figured as much with ivtv, I had to add the modules to the 2.6 file, so it remembers to laod it, but after the emerge, it worked great
[14:11:31] seth|laptop: I also would like to post that if anyone has a working mce usb lirc.conf and lircrc file, I would appreciate a paste bin, hehe
[14:11:57] seth|laptop: damn knoppmyth just made it too easy, everything just worked. This is the first gentoo mythtv build I ever did
[14:12:02] ** seth|laptop is a slacker **
[14:12:25] kslater: anyone using a URC7800 remote aka One4All Cinema7?
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[14:14:43] seth|laptop: the odd thing with the dvb card, is lspci -v knows all about it. I figured it would just work OTB, my mistake, hehe
[14:15:01] janneg: seth|laptop: is any dvb driver loaded? lsmod | grep dvb should display something
[14:15:17] seth|laptop: no
[14:15:23] seth|laptop: returns nothing
[14:15:52] janneg: then the driver isn't loaded try modprobe skystar2
[14:16:22] seth|laptop: FATAL: Module skystar2 not found.
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[14:22:18] janneg: seth|laptop: modprobe flexcop-pci
[14:23:00] fysa: Anyone here have experience with the Adaptec SATA RAID controllers?
[14:23:25] fysa: I'm curious if it's possible to ignore the onboard RAID and get them to work as standard SATA controllers.
[14:24:41] janneg: seth|laptop: sorry, modprobe b2c2-flexcop-pci
[14:30:12] seth|laptop: janneg: is there something I need to set in make,conf?
[14:30:22] seth|laptop: so the module is built?
[14:33:11] janneg: seth|laptop: no, only kernel compilation
[14:34:22] seth|laptop: janneg: that worked modprobe b2c... your a genius
[14:34:24] seth|laptop: thanks
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[14:35:59] janneg: seth|laptop: no problem
[14:36:43] seth|laptop: now to add that to the 2.6 modules file
[14:39:15] seth|laptop: are there any dvb "tools" i should emerge?
[14:41:46] janneg: linuxtv-dvb-apps
[14:43:23] seth|laptop: ack now lirc wont compile, hmm
[14:43:34] ** seth|laptop forgot how stressful gentoo could be, hehe **
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[15:01:21] fourcheeze: anyone using a macmini as a front end?
[15:01:36] fourcheeze: what's it like?
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[15:36:52] juski: hometime!
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[15:44:48] adde: any one using sasc who could help me out (ofcourse use within household
[15:44:48] adde: <adde> )
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[16:14:32] ViViD: hello, ive recorded several tv shows with mythtv, and id like to convert then into xvid avi format
[16:15:21] ViViD: currently they are saved as .nuv files and i was wondering if anyone knew a transcoding setup to get the best quality/size
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[16:17:20] ViViD: anyone know of the location of some mythtv transcoding information?
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[16:31:01] rogue780: does anyone know how to install unichrome drivers and ubuntu?
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[16:31:44] wachino: hello
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[16:33:21] lotia: any datadirect users on who are using it for HD program info?
[16:33:24] rogue780: does anyone know how to install unichrome drivers and ubuntu?
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[16:36:44] lotia: HD ota that is
[16:37:50] lotia: i'm confused about how to use the frontend editor after doing a channel scan. i've added the xmltv id's but don't know if i need to add another lineup to zap2it or will the channels be populated automatically without another lineup
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[16:41:02] fryfrog: lotia: if you sign up to zap2it for an OTA listing, you shoudln't need to fill in any of that or do a channel scan
[16:41:12] fryfrog: the whole point is that the line up includes it all, no?
[16:41:19] wachino: can someone help me?
[16:41:38] wachino: i've a pinnacle pctv stereo
[16:41:43] fryfrog: lotia: that said, I have cable adn get the "OTA" channels over QAM. I use a OTA line up, and I did some manual database editing
[16:42:09] fryfrog: I copied the correct *channel* info ( like multiplex, freq, etc ) into the OTA lineup
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[16:42:17] wachino: i can watch tv, but cant hear any sound
[16:43:19] lotia: fryfrog: i didn't associate my lineup in mythtv-setup with the HD channels
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[16:44:28] fryfrog: lotia: in theory, this is what you should do – setup an OTA HD lineup with zap2it (which it sounds like you've done), setup a "tuner" device (which you must have done to do a channel scan), then bind the data direct line up to the tuner device
[16:44:53] fryfrog: thats it, assuming you are using an accurate data direct OTA line up for your area, that line up should have the corrext multiplex, channel number, etc
[16:44:57] lotia: fryfrog: surprisingly it works without doing that.
[16:45:13] fryfrog: what, you just doing a channel scan?
[16:45:17] lotia: i simply created the lineup in zap2it
[16:45:17] fryfrog: of course that works
[16:45:25] fryfrog: ?
[16:45:48] fryfrog: you mean, you did a channel scan, setup a lineup in zap2it and... didn't do anything else?
[16:45:54] seth|laptop: ok, my lirc wont emerge/compile. guess I am stuck with just the mce remote :-( no irblaster
[16:46:07] fryfrog: ie, didn't configure mythtv and zap2it?
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[16:50:57] lotia: fryfrog: you are correct
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[16:53:05] fryfrog: damnit
[16:53:17] fryfrog: well, sounds like she was getting scheduleing from EIT but i dunno :)
[16:55:25] juski: rogue780: you just install ubuntu. no drivers needed :)
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[17:02:10] |Torg|: Im thinking of micing skystar2 ATSC card with a skystar2 QPSK card, do they coexist peacefully on the same box?
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[17:03:01] juski: no, they'll have a fight to the death on the PCI bus
[17:03:24] juski: seriously though – there's no reason why they shouldn't cohabit nicely
[17:03:41] |Torg|: ok I was just wondering about drivers and such
[17:03:45] juski: other than udev rearranging them at randomly at boot time
[17:03:58] |Torg|: I know I needed special firmware, not in the dvb relase to get my ATSC cards to work
[17:04:23] |Torg|: udev never has screwed with my cards, I dunno what people problem with udev is :)
[17:04:42] |Torg|: adapter0 and adapter1 stay they way, they never change
[17:04:49] juski: people's problem with udev is assigning devices nodes on a first come first served basis
[17:05:10] juski: depends on the order the pci bus is enumerated. you can get lucky, or not
[17:05:34] seth|laptop: so, I have a question, I just got my gentoo mythbox up last night, is there an issue currently with zap2it accounts, and program data?
[17:05:48] |Torg|: perhaps its becase its two of the same cards and they play together nice
[17:05:48] seth|laptop: i haven't filled db for like 4 days
[17:06:01] |Torg|: yes seth hads been goin on for about a month
[17:06:10] |Torg|: havnt you seen me tell people about it here?
[17:06:28] |Torg|: afaik its only with the atsc HD channels, but I can tell you how to fix it
[17:06:46] seth|laptop: well mine is incorrect with dish tv
[17:07:02] |Torg|: it woudlnt suprise me if they didnt hav the same issue
[17:07:03] seth|laptop: its like right every other day
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[17:07:08] fryfrog: mine has been working fine, for ota atsc and cable listing
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[17:07:36] |Torg|: yes fryfrog works once its setup, the issue is zap2it has differnt lables then what the chanels bcast
[17:07:38] seth|laptop: like tonight i know bnes will be on, but it says friends
[17:07:42] fryfrog: ahhhhh
[17:07:49] |Torg|: so you have set from zap2it tht has listing but can not be corelated to the channel
[17:08:02] |Torg|: and you have scanned chanels that can not be linkes to xmltvids to xap2it
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[17:08:23] |Torg|: the "classic" problem is someone is setting up myth and mythfilldatabase dosnt give them guide data
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[17:08:58] |Torg|: you have to --do-channel-updates and import xap2it, then scan in via mythtv-setup, then somehow merge the data (my opnion is its easiest with mythweb)
[17:09:13] seth|laptop: well it is incorrect fot tonight, but thursdays info is correct, I am running mythfill --refresh-all, to see if it makes a difference
[17:09:17] |Torg|: but once setup it works
[17:09:44] |Torg|: seth it also woulnt suprise me if DN didnt spcifly put out fud about the chanenls
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[17:28:36] GreyFoxx: |Torg|: Wanna try the patch here: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2781
[17:28:50] GreyFoxx: It allows windows to now see myth in it's list of upnp network devices
[17:29:00] GreyFoxx: so it might be the same reason the 360 wont see it
[17:29:07] |Torg|: k holdon
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[17:37:41] |Torg|: the patched changed the upnpavcd.xml file, I copied the changed xml to my /usr/local/shar/mythtv direcotry overwriting the old one. I restarted mythbackend
[17:37:48] |Torg|: but my 360 still does not see the backend
[17:37:56] GreyFoxx: k
[17:38:12] GreyFoxx: I'm gonna commit the patch anyway just to make it show up in Windows
[17:38:24] |Torg|: k
[17:38:25] GreyFoxx: but was hopping it might also take care of the 360;s :)
[17:38:39] |Torg|: do you know what the issue is?
[17:38:59] |Torg|: Ive trid to get to the 360 via the netowrk, its denying scans, pings, and any connection attempt to it
[17:39:01] GreyFoxx: It's probably something small like that to at least I'I suspect it's the same as that patch. The 360 is looking for a header we aren't sending in the announcements
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[17:39:27] GreyFoxx: I'd know within 20 minutes of gettinbg my hands on one
[17:39:41] |Torg|: well if I can get tcpdump to work on Windows I can record it talking to my deksotp vs it talking to the BE
[17:39:55] |Torg|: all you need do is come visit me :)
[17:39:59] GreyFoxx: heh
[17:40:22] |Torg|: Ill even introduce you to Texas BBQ, chili and peppers :)
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[17:40:29] GreyFoxx: Been there :)
[17:40:38] GreyFoxx: I use to travel once a week or more for work :)
[17:40:55] |Torg|: next time I go the the UK ill bring it with me :)
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[17:41:05] GreyFoxx: <<-- Nova Scotia, Canada
[17:41:19] |Torg|: oh hell, thats snow country :P
[17:41:29] GreyFoxx: hardly :)
[17:41:31] |Torg|: I thought you were in the UK :)
[17:41:39] GreyFoxx: Alaska is snow country, not us :)
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[17:41:53] GreyFoxx: we have higher year round average temps than places like New York city :)
[17:42:11] |Torg|: oh thats saying allot :P
[17:42:27] |Torg|: snow to us texans is a weatehr phenomia
[17:42:29] GreyFoxx: Most people envision snow blizzards every other day if I don't mention it :)
[17:44:58] |Torg|: well lts see I think its cold when it gets to 12C
[17:45:28] |Torg|: that is winter to me
[17:45:43] GreyFoxx: cold is -2 or below, 12c is "mild/cool" :)
[17:49:56] BULLE: h
[17:50:03] BULLE: -20C is cold
[17:51:16] Zider: cold is when your teeth cracks if you open your mouth
[17:51:36] BULLE: hehe
[17:52:02] BULLE: who was it that i was talking about h264 playback performance and nvidia hd video acceleration with yesterday ?
[17:54:07] BULLE: http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=328
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[17:55:51] ivor: rogue780: what's the problem?
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[18:09:46] Ryushin: Any word on when myth.rebuilddatabase.pl will be storage groups enabled?
[18:10:08] GreyFoxx: As soon as you send in a patch :)
[18:10:10] GreyFoxx: ;)
[18:12:19] Ryushin: GreyFoxx: Yea, I was wondering if I was going to get an answer like that. Too bad my perl is so rusty.
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[18:17:19] seth|laptop: ok, how do I offset my mythtv time table to subtract 5 hours. My epg is off by 5hrs
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[18:31:17] janneg: seth|laptop: there was somewhere in mythtv-setup a setting
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[18:34:13] phyber: ok, I'm running a MythTV 0.20 backend, but my frontend complains about wanting protocol version 31. Is protocol 31 for the backend in SVN?
[18:36:49] kormoc: phyber, they both require to be the *exact* *same* version
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[18:37:38] phyber: kormoc: I know that.
[18:37:46] phyber: which is why I need to know if SVN is the updated version ;)
[18:38:02] phyber: well, obviously it is. but, hmm.
[18:38:09] phyber: which file can I find the protocol version in?
[18:38:24] kormoc: phyber, there's a specific version of svn that is that protocol version, but you shouldn't just grab the latest version, you should grab the same svn revision as the backend
[18:38:46] phyber: well, I'm going to upgrade the backend, since downgrading the frontend would be too much hassle.
[18:38:49] phyber: (frontend is an xbox)
[18:39:08] kormoc: well, okay, so you need the SVN revision of the frontend :P
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[18:42:24] phyber: kormoc: which file is the protocol version stated in in the source?
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[18:45:51] phyber: ah, found it.
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[18:48:43] GreyFoxx: If you just change that and recompile expect problems
[18:48:54] GreyFoxx: the protocol number isn't changed for the heck of it :)
[18:49:15] GreyFoxx: Are you running to different versions of 0.20-fixes?
[18:49:22] GreyFoxx: 0.20 release was proto 30, and fixes is 31
[18:49:59] phyber: GreyFoxx: I wasn't going to just change it ;)
[18:50:11] GreyFoxx: hehe just checking, it happens :)
[18:50:12] phyber: I just need to find a version on SVN with the correct version :)
[18:50:20] phyber: since the current appears to be 32 >_<
[18:51:49] GreyFoxx: are you running -fixes
[18:51:50] GreyFoxx: ?
[18:52:02] GreyFoxx: fixes latest fixes is still 31 I believe
[18:52:17] phyber: I'm running the 0.20 stable on my backend at the moment
[18:52:29] phyber: oh
[18:52:40] phyber: -fixes is a diff somewhere that I can just apply?
[18:53:10] GreyFoxx: nope
[18:53:21] GreyFoxx: you can grab it from svn as well
[18:53:26] phyber: hmm, think I found it in the wiki :)
[18:53:31] phyber: 0.20.1
[18:53:36] GreyFoxx: svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-20-fixes/mythtv
[18:54:15] GreyFoxx: There is no .1, if that's on the wiki it should be changed
[18:54:21] GreyFoxx: what page on the wiki has that ?
[18:54:33] phyber: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.20.1
[18:54:46] GreyFoxx: pfft
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[18:56:23] GreyFoxx: destined for 0.20.1 is not accurate :)
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[18:59:50] janneg: seth|laptop: it is disabled, since it should work automaticly: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2143
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[19:01:04] juski: janneg: quick q. for you.. are you familiar with qtlook.txt? got a theme user whose qt menus are daft colours & I can't figure out why
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[19:02:19] janneg: juski: no
[19:03:03] juski: the colour of the text highlight on his qt menus is black. on mine it's white & I can't work out which it is. been trying to change it from qtlook.txt but no dice so far
[19:03:59] kslater: does remote commflagging currently work and remote transcoding not work?
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[19:05:12] janneg: kslater: since remote writing isn't implemented
[19:06:30] janneg: juski: ah, it's black here too
[19:07:14] kslater: janneg: ah, so the commflagging just needs to read the recording and write to the db, so remotes are fine
[19:07:42] janneg: yes
[19:07:51] juski: janneg: you just using the default qt style?
[19:08:16] ** kslater is slow, but at least he's hard to work with.. **
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[19:11:32] janneg: juski: what is the default qt style?
[19:12:09] kenguru: janneg, i did what you said that logging thing, but channel search is taking long, about 7–8 hours has elapsed and it's 98% ready.
[19:12:23] juski: janneg: default AFAIK
[19:12:43] juski: I wish qtlook.txt could be done away with. it's too complicated
[19:12:44] janneg: i have no 'default'
[19:12:59] juski: do you have a qtlook.txt in the theme dir ?
[19:13:13] kenguru: is NetID 0x6f same as 111 ?
[19:14:37] janneg: kenguru: yes, 6*16 + 15
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[19:14:58] kenguru: okay, it finished searching now, found none channels.
[19:15:18] kenguru: but it said found channels and stuff about that tsid thing.
[19:15:57] janneg: juski: yes and I have not modified it.
[19:16:24] juski: janneg: interesting
[19:16:27] janneg: juski: sorry, I have 'Default'
[19:16:45] janneg: I don't know, why I didn't saw it
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[19:17:59] |Torg|: GreyFoxx that patch along with one other to send the IP address fixes UPNP to show up in Windows Network places
[19:18:25] GreyFoxx: which other are you referring to ?
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[19:18:49] GreyFoxx: the patch to the xml file make it all show up in My Network Places here
[19:19:17] |Torg|: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2467
[19:19:28] |Torg|: I had to add that to make it show up
[19:19:40] juski: jams – could you do me a quick favour please & change the qt widget look to 'Desktop'?
[19:19:45] GreyFoxx: Ok, your mythbox has mutiple nics?
[19:19:45] janneg: and I'm not sure if the black background in the mythtv-setup warning had confused my. It's ok now
[19:20:02] |Torg|: one, and a ipv6-ipv4 interface
[19:20:08] |Torg|: eth0, lo, and sit0
[19:20:20] juski: whoops janneg not jams...
[19:20:21] |Torg|: I can remove it to make sure, in ether case its good to have
[19:20:42] |Torg|: that go damn 360 is stil deaf, dumb, and blind th
[19:20:46] juski: hrm I need to eat.. I'll try the gl painter & see if it shows up black then
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[19:21:53] |Torg|: it didnt show up untill I restarted my backend after applying the upnp.cpp patch
[19:22:10] ** GreyFoxx goes hunting for what the proper behaviour is **
[19:23:02] |Torg|: what info do you need/want?
[19:23:36] GreyFoxx: I'm just pulling up the RFC's to see what the official behaviour is with regards to machines with multiple IP's
[19:23:43] |Torg|: and I still maintain its the 360s fault, M$ probbly "enhanced" UPNP some way to make SURE it connects to a windows box (and ONLY a windows box)
[19:23:54] GreyFoxx: I'm not even thinkiung about the 360 with this
[19:24:20] |Torg|: btw when I try streaming to nero it just locks nero up
[19:28:36] |Torg|: what is the behavious of multiple upnp servers on teh same subnet?
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[19:29:59] GreyFoxx: Each server does it's own independant network ssdp announcement (destined to multicast address 239.255.255.250 port 1900)
[19:30:33] GreyFoxx: the clients "see" those to learn of the servers out there and then using the contents of the ssdp announcement know what IP/port to talk to for each to get info on services it provides
[19:30:36] |Torg|: ok bcae I have three, dlink, microsoft and the BE
[19:30:58] |Torg|: the BE and microsfot seem to be pifthing oiver and over, they are apearing and disapering in nero
[19:31:06] GreyFoxx: Similar in concept to windows shares. The windows box announces itself once in a while
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[19:32:17] |Torg|: UPNP from the BE is reporting the size incorrectly
[19:32:22] |Torg|: as well as the date
[19:32:26] Coume: hi all
[19:32:59] GreyFoxx: The date info is stored in the metafile, which a proper player will read
[19:33:13] |Torg|: the nuv files?
[19:33:37] GreyFoxx: as for the size if it's a file over 2G depending on the upnp client library it will return a m3u file instead of the proper info
[19:33:58] |Torg|: yes they exceed 2G and show up as teh 2G limit
[19:34:13] GreyFoxx: That would be the client software doing that
[19:34:14] BULLE: is the 2g limit due to windows or due to the specs ?
[19:34:14] |Torg|: the dates are all from today altho they were recorded all the last two weeks
[19:34:30] GreyFoxx: BULLE: historically several factors, but not the spec
[19:34:31] |Torg|: and nero simply freezes when I go to play them
[19:34:47] GreyFoxx: apache use to have a2g limit, windows filesystems use to, samba "use to"
[19:34:57] GreyFoxx: so a lot of client libraries for various things have them built in
[19:35:01] BULLE: GreyFoxx: so the upnp spec alows file size larger then 2gb ?
[19:35:04] GreyFoxx: yes
[19:35:10] BULLE: good
[19:35:49] GreyFoxx: |Torg|: That would be Nero filling in those dates as well. It's not parsing the meta data correctly
[19:36:12] |Torg|: ok thats teh only client aside from my dlink and the two xboxes that I can test with
[19:36:39] |Torg|: if I could just get the BE to stream via its 6544 port it would be nice :)
[19:36:57] |Torg|: the upnp that came up on my netowrk jsut pointed me to the status url of teh BE
[19:37:15] GreyFoxx: |Torg|: Yeah, that's all that the basic windows My Network places stuff supports
[19:37:32] GreyFoxx: Basically access to a status page
[19:37:50] |Torg|: is that windows or is that the BE?
[19:38:14] GreyFoxx: The status page is from the backend, it's windows that is loading it and only it
[19:38:30] GreyFoxx: That status page is the same one that appears in mythweb
[19:38:36] |Torg|: and nero is being totaly uncoropertive, right now it sees the BE but refuses to brawse it
[19:38:38] GreyFoxx: goto http://backendip:6544
[19:38:45] |Torg|: yes mythweb takes the page from teh BE
[19:39:20] |Torg|: if I kill mythweb, well apache, the BE still gives me the page
[19:39:53] GreyFoxx: It would with the built in http service
[19:40:02] GreyFoxx: upnp is basically httpu (http over udp)
[19:40:17] GreyFoxx: http://pastebin.ca/269719 This is an example of the metadata the backend feeds to the client
[19:40:22] |Torg|: that part I get its just xml
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[19:40:46] GreyFoxx: With the IP censored of course
[19:40:47] GreyFoxx: hehe
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[19:41:00] |Torg|: how do you get that?
[19:41:40] GreyFoxx: I use djmount, a linux based upnp client. I can browse all upnp media servers and see everything they serve
[19:41:59] GreyFoxx: I use the same thing to feed all of my mythvideo video to my frontends via the backends upnp server
[19:42:03] |Torg|: what does a windows box do differntly then the BE then?
[19:42:17] |Torg|: this shoudl be easy, install djmount look at the BE and look at my windows box. compare teh diff
[19:42:54] GreyFoxx: Which should be easy?
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[19:43:04] |Torg|: just see what the windows box does differntly
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[19:43:14] GreyFoxx: No need for djmount for that
[19:43:42] GreyFoxx: All I need is access to the various clients, like nero and a 360
[19:43:56] GreyFoxx: Once I have that it's almost trivial
[19:44:04] GreyFoxx: tcpdump is my b*tch
[19:44:58] |Torg|: well I can give you access to my BE
[19:46:10] GreyFoxx: I'm aware, but honestly trying to go through this stuff when you don';t have hands on access to both ends is not optimal :) Though don't expect me to never as for stuff and testing :)
[19:46:47] GreyFoxx: Having both client and server at my finger tips is what would make it simple and faster (and on my own timeline) :)
[19:47:04] GreyFoxx: What vcersion of Nero is that you are using ?
[19:47:12] |Torg|: 7 plat
[19:47:43] GreyFoxx: I think one of my coworkers has that on his machine
[19:47:49] GreyFoxx: if so I can use that for testing
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[19:49:01] |Torg|: im gona test djmount to see what it tells me
[19:54:06] |Torg|: [I] Add new device : Name='MythTV AV Media Server' Id='uuid:895c3874-a26b-4883-8304-fd1216c76e87' descURL='http://10.1.1.161:6544/getDeviceDesc'
[19:54:07] |Torg|: [E] Error Subscribing to Service EventURL — -301
[19:54:08] |Torg|: [E] Error Subscribing to ContentDir EventURL — -301
[19:57:01] |Torg|: ok the differneces in what Windows Media Connect is reporting vs myth is allot
[19:58:10] |Torg|: http://pastebin.ca/269747
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[19:59:33] |Torg|: specifly it has a ConnectionManager that myth does not as well as an extra service which I dont think is necessary
[20:02:15] rogue780: has anyone here gotten unichrome dirvers to work on ubuntu
[20:02:16] |Torg|: GreyFoxx does that make any sence to you?
[20:05:59] GreyFoxx: |Torg|: I'll look it over in a bit. Dealing with a work "crisis" at the moment
[20:06:38] |Torg|: ok im on a sales call now too :)
[20:06:51] juski: back to qtlook.txt fiddling
[20:08:12] |Torg|: juski did you create the theme on a winodws box? or is there some other reason the files are set exaecutable?
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[20:08:29] juski: hahaha
[20:08:37] jimbolaya: Hello
[20:08:39] juski: quick & dirty chmod
[20:08:47] kormoc: |Torg|, they hold a hidden program that gives the secret to life, the universe and everything when run!
[20:09:08] jimbolaya: I have a question about UPnP on 0.20.
[20:09:09] juski: there's actually a secret paypal donation trojan
[20:09:17] juski: you ue the theme, you pay
[20:09:18] |Torg|: thats secret_life.so.1.0.0.1
[20:09:31] |Torg|: I chmoded all the files -x :P
[20:09:47] GreyFoxx: jimbolaya: Ask,. not guarantee of answers :)
[20:10:41] jimbolaya: Heh. I can't seem to figure out why the clients aren't connecting correctly to my mythbackend server.
[20:10:58] jimbolaya: I'm hoping for some help in debugging the problem.
[20:11:01] xris: juski: msg me your email address so I can cc you the email I sent out last night about redesigning mythtv.org
[20:11:06] GreyFoxx: What is the client in this case?
[20:12:07] jimbolaya: I'm using a software one and a hardware one. I have an OmniFI DMS-1
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[20:12:29] juski: xris: do your qt widgets look ok with blootube-wide? mine look like http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/screenshot.txt
[20:12:32] jimbolaya: and I'm using the Nero client.
[20:12:50] |Torg|: juski 404
[20:12:56] juski: .txt pfft
[20:12:58] juski: .png
[20:13:06] GreyFoxx: jimbolaya: We are literally talking about problems using the Nero client minutes before you walked in
[20:13:18] GreyFoxx: and I have no specific knowledge of that client
[20:13:43] GreyFoxx: unfortunately the current code doesn't have much in the way of useful debug statements in it to log on the backend side of things
[20:13:48] GreyFoxx: I plan to add more this weekenbd
[20:13:51] jimbolaya: Showtime I think.
[20:14:02] jimbolaya: ah.
[20:15:15] GreyFoxx: Personally I've only used it with djmount (client software) and a dlink DSM 320
[20:15:20] xris: juski: 404
[20:15:37] GreyFoxx: but I'm now slowly working to get my hands on more clients to test it on
[20:15:39] jimbolaya: I turned on "network" verbose messages and I only saw http connects and disconnects but no network traffic.
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[20:15:52] jimbolaya: I'd be more than happy to help you test things.
[20:15:59] GreyFoxx: jimbolaya: Yeah, those are less than useless
[20:16:08] jimbolaya: Heh.
[20:16:36] xris: juski: I don't use blootube-wide, either. no "wide"  :)
[20:16:43] GreyFoxx: I've got a few more debug statements in my version here, but it's much more than I would put into the code for others to use as it can flood pretty easy :)
[20:17:51] jimbolaya: OK. I guess I can sit on my hands for a little longer ;) I've been looking forward to the UPnP for a while.
[20:18:21] |Torg|: when I run djl;ink it complais incessently about not finding ID's and not creating UDNs
[20:18:23] GreyFoxx: heh I've been using it with djmount to stream to my frontends for a while
[20:18:31] GreyFoxx: now I plan to get it out to as many clients as possible
[20:19:43] jimbolaya: OTOH, I am getting to be familiar with vlc since I've kind of got this in my blood at the moment.
[20:21:03] GreyFoxx: jimbolaya: It will be nice once they release a win32 version with the upnp support in it
[20:21:38] jimbolaya: Yeah.'
[20:21:50] GreyFoxx: last I read on their lists it was gonna be Sept just past
[20:21:56] GreyFoxx: so it's likely close
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[20:24:30] |Torg|: I also have what I belive to be an archtecure issue. my videos are all on my FE (where they were captures and or put to play) while its data is on the BE
[20:24:48] |Torg|: so there is a disocnnect of who has the metainfo vs who has the data and I cant stream form the FE
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[20:25:13] GreyFoxx: |Torg|: that will likely not be changed
[20:25:40] |Torg|: is that konw issue not being fixed, or an archtecure issue of not mouting a remove FS on my part?
[20:26:14] jimbolaya: |Torg|: you don't want to mount the data from the front end to the backend (nfs, smb etc etc)?
[20:26:32] GreyFoxx: The general assumption is that the backend is service the data to the frontend, usually via network mounts Myth video don't have a concept of what machine the data is actually on for the backend to know
[20:27:32] |Torg|: jimbolaya I dont moint network filesystems period
[20:28:44] jimbolaya: |Torg| Ah. I couldn't live without nfs myself. I've been talking to some of the nfsv4 guys where I work. I'm kind of excited about it.
[20:29:18] |Torg|: I have a GE netowrk I dont plan on runing jumbo frames on
[20:29:21] BULLE: jimbolaya: im looking forward to stable nfsv4 support in linux, it seems to make nfs more sane
[20:29:34] Coume: juski?
[20:29:44] juski: Coume:
[20:30:01] GreyFoxx: Anyone off hand know of any other upnp media servers (free) thatrun under windows other tham Windows Media Connect ?
[20:30:05] Coume: Did you receive lots of emails?
[20:30:10] juski: yeh
[20:30:17] Coume: f*ck them
[20:30:20] Coume: argggggghhhhhhh
[20:30:41] Coume: why do they target us that bad?
[20:30:43] Coume: :(
[20:30:48] juski: no idea
[20:30:52] BULLE: GreyFoxx: the only one i can come to think of is kind of semi free, it comes with nokia upnp capable telephones, and its written in java
[20:30:56] Coume: I'm sorry about that juski  :(
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[20:31:20] Coume: I apologize for the inconvenience juski :(
[20:31:41] stuarta: evening all
[20:31:58] GreyFoxx: Looks like there are a couple for linux at least. I'll get those going as well
[20:31:58] Coume: evening stuarta
[20:32:15] juski: evening stuarta .. and thanks :)
[20:34:32] rogue780: has anyone here gotten unichrome dirvers to work on ubuntu
[20:34:46] juski: rogue780: what drivers? it just works
[20:34:57] juski: on dapper it does anyway
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[20:38:16] stuarta: juski: :)
[20:38:42] juski: musta needed a re-login
[20:39:51] GreyFoxx: cool, ushare works too and was a snap to setup.
[20:40:11] GreyFoxx: |Torg|: Might be interesting to try ushare and see if your 360 can see it's contents
[20:40:24] GreyFoxx: http://ushare.geexbox.org/
[20:40:57] GreyFoxx: if it does that's cool, since we have the source to it :)
[20:41:34] ** stuarta is watching the highlights of england *losing* a test match to australia **
[20:42:00] juski: do england do anything else?  ;-)
[20:42:28] stuarta: normally they invent the sport first
[20:42:33] stuarta: then lose at it :)
[20:42:36] juski: lol
[20:43:09] stuarta: takes special effort to do that :)
[20:43:20] juski: yeah with the emphasis on 'special'
[20:43:46] stuarta: takes *special* effort to do that :)
[20:44:02] juski: I can't figure out what goes on in this qtlook.txt file
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[20:44:24] stuarta: btw. got my new router up and running.
[20:44:31] juski: woohoo :)
[20:44:35] stuarta: as yet not entirely happy.
[20:44:37] Deformative: Is there a way to make mythtv stream to my website?
[20:44:49] stuarta: running at 1.4Mb/s compared to 7Mb/s
[20:45:08] juski: Deformative: if there were, and you did, I think some broadcaster would want to have a quiet word in your ear about what their definition of 'fair use' is
[20:45:32] stuarta: it does however have a SNR of 11.5 vs 6db
[20:45:43] Deformative: I would password protect it.
[20:45:44] juski: that's not a very good SNR
[20:45:51] Deformative: I just wanna be able to watch from school.
[20:45:52] stuarta: it's rat shit
[20:46:19] juski: Deformative: if it's for your own personal use why don't you investigate _mythstreamtv_ ?
[20:46:25] stuarta: Deformative: tried clicking on a link in mythweb?
[20:46:39] Deformative: Because i did not know there was such a thing juski.
[20:46:56] juski: you do now, though ;)
[20:47:09] stuarta: ENOBEER
[20:47:24] ** juski has vodka **
[20:47:56] juski: not for schoolnights though, and definitely not when I have to drive 30 miles at 7am
[20:48:11] juski: in the rain, among numpties
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[20:49:47] seth|laptop: ok so lirc 0.8.0 hates me, and wont let me compile all for both mceusb2 and serial drivers. Gentoo says nogo, lirc_parallel is not compat. with smp kernel, so I recopmiled the kernel, and now we see if it builds
[20:50:01] seth|laptop: otherwise, my gentoo mythbox works great
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[20:56:18] janneg: juski: http://www.grunau.be/blootube_qt_error.png
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[21:05:01] stutterman: anyone know why playback of dvd iso's or vob's are choppy when there's a lot of motion but xine of the same data works fine? myth version .20a
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[21:05:29] stutterman: (internal myth dvd player)
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[21:12:34] juski: janneg: hrm.
[21:12:48] juski: anyway.. time to play a nice multiplayer game of burnout revenge :)
[21:12:53] |Torg|: ok GreyFoxx the 360 does not see ushare either, so im going to go thoguht eh ushare stuff to see whats wrong there
[21:14:28] robbins876: Torg: what are you trying to do with your 360?
[21:14:37] |Torg|: read upnp evices
[21:14:54] robbins876: so your'e trying to serv your music to the 360?
[21:14:58] |Torg|: I have 4 upnp servers to include a specially patched mythbackedn
[21:15:10] |Torg|: music, pictures, video anything
[21:15:34] robbins876: i have music and photos shared with twonkymedia server
[21:15:47] |Torg|: im running djmount which can see it
[21:15:59] |Torg|: the goal here is to get the 360 to see the mythbackend
[21:16:03] stuarta: doh! core dump
[21:16:11] janneg: juski: it seems be be independent on the selected qt style
[21:16:15] |Torg|: I dont really care if I can use my 360 to watch movies or play video
[21:16:50] |Torg|: teh object of getting ushare was to use an open source server, twonkyvision is not open source
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[21:24:39] |Torg|: GreyFoxx you here?
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[21:31:02] CharlieSu: anyone use a mythfrontend on an original xbox? if so which one? XMBC plugin or linux on xbox?
[21:31:29] |Torg|: xbmc can see it as a samba share or a upnp share
[21:33:00] CharlieSu: |Torg|: yes but then the files are named funny..
[21:33:16] |Torg|: look at the pretty irectroy
[21:33:43] CharlieSu: |Torg|: where is that?
[21:33:55] |Torg|: mine is /myth/pretty
[21:34:07] |Torg|: if you want to run linux on it go here
[21:34:08] |Torg|: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Xbox_Frontend
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[21:45:40] daviey: Hi, can somebody help me with lirc
[21:46:02] daviey: i have installed it, but my remotes are not being recognised by irrecord
[21:46:16] daviey: I have followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Edgy
[21:47:52] daviey: I am using a homebrew reciever and a haupage (silver) remote
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[21:53:31] BULLE: daviey: all i can say, is that i cant get irrecord to work either =)
[21:54:26] daviey: BULLE, are you happy that lirc is receiving the signal?
[21:55:09] BULLE: daviey: uhm ? not sure i understand that question
[21:55:26] BULLE: if i am happy ?
[21:55:41] daviey: is lirc getting the signal
[21:55:45] BULLE: no
[21:55:49] daviey: oh
[21:55:54] BULLE: as i said, i cant get irrecord to pick up anything sane
[21:56:29] daviey: have you tried 'cat /dev/(ir device here)' to see if the reciever is working?
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[21:58:39] BULLE: daviey: it is working
[21:58:47] daviey: doh!
[21:58:52] daviey: mien aint
[21:58:54] daviey: mine
[21:58:55] BULLE: daviey: i can use it with a predefined lircd file
[21:59:18] BULLE: if i want to use irrecord to receive the values from the remote, to make custom lircd file, irrecord dont get anything
[21:59:37] BULLE: or, it does get something, but compalin its just 2 values, and say it cant only be 2 values
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[22:07:34] daviey: :(
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[22:11:57] TheSiege: will this place help me with xbox myth tv support?
[22:12:38] stuarta: normally
[22:15:25] TheSiege: just a quick question or 2, we have a myth server, how would i go about making my softmodded xbox connect to it, im only using it for myth nothing else so i dont want to have to load it froom a dash
[22:15:56] stuarta: xbmc i believe
[22:17:44] |Torg|: that or run linux on it
[22:17:55] |Torg|: xbmc via upnp or smb share
[22:18:11] |Torg|: just make sure you dont use a 360
[22:18:39] BULLE: i dont think you can softmod the 360
[22:18:50] |Torg|: you cant, well not really
[22:19:06] |Torg|: you cn mod its drive firmwar allowing you to play your backups
[22:19:14] BULLE: ye, you cant mod it so it will run anything but copies of disk
[22:19:15] BULLE: ye
[22:19:24] |Torg|: but im not talking about a modded xbox im talking about its psudo upnp
[22:19:28] BULLE: ah
[22:19:31] BULLE: ps3 !
[22:19:44] |Torg|: in fact im near conviced an xbox can not do upnp
[22:19:56] |Torg|: it does some modifed M$ pice of shit they call Upnp
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[22:20:38] TheSiege: i can autorun linux with a softmod?
[22:21:06] |Torg|: no
[22:21:28] TheSiege: ok so i best running xbmc and running the myth TV script
[22:21:44] Deformative: How would I run the vbi decoder?
[22:21:49] |Torg|: its best to use a FE and your xbox to play games
[22:22:30] TheSiege: what is FE
[22:22:38] |Torg|: Front End
[22:22:45] |Torg|: I get tired of typeing mythfrontend sorry
[22:24:15] TheSiege: sorry im not sure what you are saying? is there a mythTV prog for the xbox instead of the script?
[22:24:41] |Torg|: yes there is a mythtv program it runs on linux
[22:24:48] |Torg|: and linux runs on the xbox
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[22:25:14] TheSiege: but i couldnt link straight to the mythTV prog from a dash?
[22:25:18] |Torg|: the ENTIRE reason, at least publicly, you have modchip is to run cromwell bios to run linux
[22:25:33] |Torg|: no, what you want is called xbmc
[22:26:09] TheSiege: ok, so if i softmod my xbox, how would i go about putting linux on it to run mythTV
[22:26:16] |Torg|: the same reason you arnt suposd to download pre compiled xbmc a program for it ruiing the fe dosnt exist
[22:26:20] |Torg|: that and its a porting nightmare
[22:26:37] |Torg|: if you softmod the box you are not going to run linux
[22:26:49] TheSiege: damn
[22:26:54] |Torg|: you MUST have a modchip and you MUST load alternate bios (preferably cromwell)
[22:26:59] TheSiege: ok
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[22:27:14] |Torg|: but why are you asking xbox hacking questiosn in a myth user channel?
[22:27:20] TheSiege: unless i run the script
[22:27:31] |Torg|: what script?
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[22:27:52] TheSiege: python script from xbmc
[22:28:04] |Torg|: which one, to do what?
[22:29:31] TheSiege: run XBMC, then run the mythTV script from it
[22:29:51] |Torg|: yes its using smb to mount the directry and play the files
[22:32:52] Paladine: wtf
[22:33:03] Paladine: all my manual recording schedules have vanished
[22:33:30] TheSiege: hmmm
[22:33:52] TheSiege: well xbmc has a script for mythTV i was wondering if it was decent or not
[22:34:03] Paladine: I hadlike 8 shows in there on weekly recording schedules
[22:34:12] Paladine: and they have just vanished
[22:34:18] Paladine: been working fine for months
[22:35:07] |Torg|: TheSiege its fine, but all its doing is using samba, you can do that to
[22:35:35] TheSiege: so it wont have all the funtionality of mythTV?
[22:35:45] |Torg|: no
[22:36:00] |Torg|: if you want all the functionality of myth install it
[22:36:14] Paladine: hmmmmmmmm
[22:36:20] Paladine: something seriously borked
[22:36:37] Paladine: i restarted frontend and backend and now they are all back in the schedule list
[22:36:38] |Torg|: Paladine dont you have your database backed up?
[22:36:49] TheSiege: ok, so what exactly do i lose by using the FE
[22:36:49] Paladine: but it has failed to record todays shows
[22:37:04] Paladine: something must have crashed in myth
[22:37:09] Paladine: no erros in the log either
[22:37:47] Paladine: looks like mythmusic crashed and as a result it cocked up all the recording schedules for mythtv
[22:38:05] kslater: if I want to test another remote, what parts of myth do I need to restart afterwards? Just the FE?
[22:38:20] |Torg|: I can get the BE to crash sometimes when exiting my recordings (which cases a relaible crash on teh FE) or editing
[22:38:33] |Torg|: kslater just lircd
[22:38:48] Paladine: frontend was still working, just the recording schedule was empty
[22:38:50] kslater: oh cool
[22:39:02] robbins876: anyone here play gears of war?
[22:39:13] |Torg|: the FE crashing is pissing me off enugh I may just install .20 again
[22:39:27] |Torg|: no robbins876 can you burn me a copy :P
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[22:39:50] Paladine: thankfully the missus records stargate sg1 and atlantis on our set top box so I haven't missed them, but I am curious as to what mythmusic did to bork it
[22:40:15] |Torg|: sg1 is not being brodcast yet
[22:40:18] Paladine: mythmusic seems to have hung 1 second from the end of a song
[22:40:24] robbins876: Torg: you have a 360 and don't have GoW?!
[22:40:24] Paladine: it isin the UK
[22:40:31] Paladine: I am not in the US
[22:40:34] |Torg|: what season?
[22:40:38] Paladine: the latest
[22:40:45] Paladine: we don't have a mid season break like you guys
[22:40:56] |Torg|: what eppisode did you last record?
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[22:41:05] Paladine: it starts here a couple of months later than the US but goes right through without a mid season break
[22:41:10] Paladine: so we get the first half after you guys
[22:41:14] Paladine: and the second half before
[22:41:25] Paladine: last ep was 201 I think
[22:41:30] Paladine: today was 202 I think
[22:41:34] |Torg|: gateworld has th second half not staring untill summer now
[22:41:39] |Torg|: 201?
[22:41:49] |Torg|: thats about 8 years old :P
[22:41:54] |Torg|: you mean 1001, right?
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[22:42:15] Paladine: no 201 as in the two hundred and first episode
[22:42:20] Paladine: not season 2 episode 1
[22:42:53] |Torg|: ahh thats old too
[22:43:07] Paladine: it is the current season
[22:43:09] |Torg|: I dont knw them by episde number, i jsut rember watching episde 200 a while ago
[22:43:10] Paladine: so it is not that old
[22:43:25] |Torg|: counterstrike?
[22:43:25] Paladine: we are still in the first half of the current season
[22:43:37] TheSiege: what is the downside of using the mythTV script for XBMC as opposed to installing linux and putting mythTV on that?
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[22:43:54] Paladine: but like I said, you are on mid season break at the moment, doesn't start again in the US til next year iirc
[22:43:58] |Torg|: you loose allot of myths features
[22:44:13] Paladine: we go straight through
[22:44:14] |Torg|: so what you watched Paladine is season 10 episode 7
[22:44:22] |Torg|: umm you wont this time :)
[22:44:34] Paladine: yes we will
[22:44:43] |Torg|: According to TV Guide, the Sci Fi Channel has delayed the second half of the current seasons of Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis until April 2007. Previously, the shows had been scheduled to return in March, but that was already a delay from the usual January debut.
[22:44:55] Paladine: it is has already been posted on the official forums that the first episode of the second alf of season 10 will air in the UK first
[22:45:10] |Torg|: I cant belive thre that stupid to not realise we can BT it
[22:45:19] stutterman: anyone know why myths internal dvd player playback of dvd iso's or vob's are choppy when there's a lot of motion but xine of the same data works fine? myth version .20a
[22:45:41] Paladine: like I said, we start a couple of months behind you guys, but we go straight through without a mid season break
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[22:45:42] |Torg|: stutterman it can be alot of things
[22:45:48] Paladine: so we get the second half of the season before you guys
[22:46:00] |Torg|: well see Paladine. maybe il be bugging you for copies :)
[22:46:23] Paladine: yeah that would be a good way of pissing offthe MPAA who are already trying to sue me for the world
[22:46:34] stutterman: torg: I'm open to an suggestions. ldd of mythfrontend shows it points to the nvidia opengl libraries, it's a dual core box and cpu usage isn't high
[22:47:04] |Torg|: stutterman start out with your X config, then look at the playback settings in myth
[22:47:11] |Torg|: if your passing DTS look at alsa
[22:47:17] |Torg|: stuttering is often cased my audio
[22:47:55] stutterman: it's always at the same area, such as the castle movement at the beginning of any disney dvd.
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[22:48:43] stutterman: dd/dts pcm streams or just using stereo and no pass through both have the same stutter. extra audio buffering has had no affect.
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[22:49:06] stutterman: torg: what in the xorg.conf file? X extentions?
[22:49:19] |Torg|: X etensions nvidia options
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[22:53:33] juski: well, time for bed again. but damn that burnout revenge is awesome even on my ickle xbox :)
[22:54:35] stuarta: hehe, later, sleep well
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[23:02:52] Paladine: wb dude
[23:03:01] Paladine: time for me to go play Hammers of Fate though :)
[23:03:11] Paladine: finally got it working in cedega last night :)
[23:03:17] |Torg|: hehe cool!
[23:03:22] |Torg|: take care
[23:03:33] Paladine: you too bud
[23:03:59] Paladine: I will have to make sure I don't have mythmusic running during a tv recording schedule slot in future
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[23:12:15] Paladine: man I am pissed
[23:12:28] |Torg|: then stop drinking :P
[23:12:32] Paladine: I accidentally bid on an auction I meant to "Buy Now" on
[23:12:48] Paladine: and the person running the auction refused to cancel my bid so I could use Buy Now
[23:12:48] |Torg|: retract yur bid, and buy it now
[23:13:12] Paladine: they wouldn't let me retract (ebay) they said he had to cancel it
[23:13:35] Paladine: now it has gone over the buy now price with a bunch of low feedback users bidding on it
[23:13:47] |Torg|: shills probably
[23:13:50] |Torg|: whats teh auction?
[23:13:58] Paladine: so Ijust emailed the dude thanking him for ruining my son's birthday present
[23:14:09] Paladine: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt . . . 130054076603
[23:14:56] Paladine: I am not bidding on it anymore
[23:15:19] Paladine: I would rather spend an extra 10 GBP on a new one than give him the satisfaction of buying his
[23:15:27] |Torg|: http://deadeyedata.com/index.php?main_page=pr . . . currency=USD
[23:15:38] |Torg|: with conversion should come to about the same
[23:15:52] Paladine: less actually
[23:15:55] Paladine: but I want a silver one
[23:15:59] Paladine: and I am not in the US
[23:16:05] |Torg|: oh lets be picky :P
[23:16:47] |Torg|: http://www.xoxide.com/silverstone-lc10-s-htpc.html
[23:16:50] |Torg|: a bit more
[23:18:20] |Torg|: why cant they skip it to the UK?
[23:18:25] |Torg|: err ship
[23:18:47] Paladine: they probably can but the shipping and import duty would be more than the case itself
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[23:21:06] |Torg|: how about if I ship it and call it a bookcase :)
[23:21:12] Paladine: torg, I will just buy one of these
[23:21:14] Paladine: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ThermalTake-Bach-HomeTh . . . cmdZViewItem
[23:21:35] |Torg|: those are pretty
[23:21:37] Paladine: works out the same price with shipping and is new
[23:21:42] |Torg|: but why all teh ricer stuff?
[23:22:15] Paladine: the LEDs?
[23:22:28] |Torg|: teh pretty case, the leds the whole thing
[23:22:42] Paladine: cos it is to go in the lounge with the tv
[23:22:53] Paladine: so I want it to look like the rest of our av equipment
[23:22:56] Paladine: which is all silver
[23:22:58] |Torg|: put it in a tower pc and put it next to the tv :)
[23:23:13] Paladine: that uses more space
[23:23:20] Paladine: we have room on the shelf under the tv
[23:23:27] Paladine: butonly for a desktop case
[23:23:39] Paladine: and then logan can't get to either
[23:23:48] Paladine: (behind glass doors)
[23:23:57] |Torg|: oh nice idea, but off its airflow
[23:24:08] Paladine: the back of the cabinet is open
[23:24:24] |Torg|: ok so cut off HALF of its airflow :P
[23:24:34] Paladine: it will be fine :p
[23:24:46] Paladine: that one has a vfd window too which the silverstone doesn't have
[23:24:51] |Torg|: hey its your box
[23:25:07] Paladine: its only a low power box
[23:25:10] |Torg|: teh vfd would be nice
[23:25:10] Paladine: 233 Watts
[23:25:13] |Torg|: low power?
[23:25:19] |Torg|: what do you plan on putting into it?
[23:25:28] Paladine: athlon xp1800
[23:25:36] |Torg|: drives?
[23:25:42] Paladine: 1x 80GB IDE
[23:25:48] |Torg|: video?
[23:25:55] Paladine: fx5500 256MB PCI
[23:26:07] |Torg|: that should be ok
[23:26:21] |Torg|: 50W CPU, 20W drive, 50W vieo
[23:26:37] |Torg|: your bout putting a raid aray in the thing :P
[23:26:50] Paladine: it is a very simple box
[23:26:54] Paladine: will be running edubuntu
[23:27:05] Paladine: output straight to the tv
[23:27:23] |Torg|: 233W should be fine
[23:27:31] Paladine: it is to encourage heather to use computers more and also to get Logan playing educational games etc
[23:28:16] Paladine: not even putting a tv card in there
[23:28:22] Paladine: no need cos we have sky+ in there
[23:28:23] |Torg|: I tought mine how to use myth, and she uses to play music
[23:28:38] |Torg|: great a $3000 mp3 system :)
[23:28:39] Paladine: I will put myth frontend on there for the plugins (gallery, mythmusic etc)
[23:29:25] Paladine: well probably, I haven't decided yet
[23:29:31] Paladine: since I also have the photos in gallery2
[23:29:40] Paladine: so no need for myth at all really
[23:29:52] Paladine: amarok can handle the music
[23:31:18] Paladine: anyway speaking of games :)
[23:31:20] Paladine: bbl
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[23:31:29] ** Paladine ctrl+alt+f9's **
[23:32:03] |Torg|: whats on f9?
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[23:32:13] Paladine: my gaming xserver
[23:32:25] |Torg|: you run x more then once?
[23:32:29] Paladine: yes
[23:32:37] Paladine: I have xinerama setup
[23:32:45] |Torg|: ahh
[23:32:48] gu014: what do you think of this motherboard... DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136151
[23:32:52] Paladine: cedega doesn't like xinerama, it tries to maximise games across both monitors
[23:33:08] |Torg|: share your X setup would ya, i can do that for multiple monitors but not multiple screens
[23:33:12] Paladine: so irun a seperate xserver with single monitor config
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[23:34:16] Paladine: sudo xinit /usr/bin/cedega -- :1 -config xorg-games.conf
[23:34:35] Paladine: xorg-games.conf is a seperate xorg.conf with single monitor setup
[23:34:59] Paladine: you will need to use xauth to add a cookie for the second server
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[23:35:20] Paladine: its pretty straightforward really
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[23:36:39] Paladine: for me, I just do `xauth` from the cli
[23:36:47] Paladine: then type list to get a list of existing cookies
[23:37:06] |Torg|: I dont use cookies I just + the whole thing
[23:37:12] |Torg|: but I dont want to run X twice
[23:37:37] Paladine: then do add :1 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 [cookiekey]
[23:37:49] Paladine: replace [cookiekey] with the key of an existing cookie from the list
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[23:39:20] Paladine: I find I get much better gaming performance running cedega in its own xserver without a window manager
[23:39:40] |Torg|: so you run a seperate gaming server
[23:39:45] Paladine: and I can just switch between the gaming xserver and my regular desktop with the ctrl+alt+f* keys
[23:40:06] Paladine: also saves power too :)
[23:40:16] |Torg|: ahh ok I get it you use mythfe as an X display host
[23:40:17] Paladine: because when I am in the second xserver, the second monitor powers off
[23:40:24] |Torg|: power? how do?
[23:40:41] Paladine: I only have the xrog config file for the second server setup for single monitor
[23:40:46] Paladine: so the idle monitor powers off
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[23:41:15] Paladine: goes into 1W standby mode
[23:41:22] Paladine: cos it has no signal
[23:41:29] |Torg|: I dont run monitors on mine
[23:41:35] |Torg|: seems a waste of video card myslef
[23:41:35] CharlieSu: when using myth web i tried a search for ER the TV show but it keeps timing out because there are other things with 'er' in the name.. how can I specify that it should only be "ER" ??
[23:41:48] Paladine: what do you view your desktop on?
[23:42:10] |Torg|: Paladine me? I dont run a desktop
[23:42:27] Paladine: ok well what does mythfrontend display on then?
[23:42:51] |Torg|: a JVC DLP Tv
[23:43:06] Paladine: well thats the equivelant of a monitor :p
[23:43:11] Paladine: and uses a lot more power :p
[23:43:17] |Torg|: well its off unless I watch tv :)
[23:43:36] Paladine: I am going to be getting a 3rd monitor for this machine soon
[23:43:46] |Torg|: VC HD-61Z575A (DFP-0): "1920x1080"
[23:44:19] Paladine: will run mythfrontend in its own monitor and then my regular desktop in the other 2 monitors
[23:44:28] Paladine: that way I can run beryl without any problems
[23:44:48] Paladine: and I will run cdega on the same monitor as mythfrontend, but again in it's own xserver
[23:45:02] Paladine: so I can switch between mythtv and cedega
[23:45:16] |Torg|: my myth boxes are purly servers
[23:45:18] Paladine: I don't run mythfontend in full screen mode at the moment
[23:45:36] Paladine: it sits in the bottom left corner of my right hand monitor on my regular desktop
[23:45:48] Paladine: at 720x576 resolution
[23:45:56] Paladine: xchat above it
[23:45:59] Paladine: and gaim to the right of it
[23:46:18] Paladine: then my left monitor is web and gterm
[23:46:34] Paladine: thats desktop 1
[23:46:40] Paladine: I have evolution running on desktop 2
[23:46:42] |Torg|: ahh I run Windows as my desktop
[23:47:01] Paladine: I have windows in desktop 3
[23:47:06] Paladine: running in vmware
[23:47:32] Paladine: and desktop 4 is where I write my papers and do research and stuff
[23:47:49] Paladine: my nickname amongst friends is "Man of many windows"
[23:48:33] |Torg|: I only have two montiors on my dekstop
[23:48:44] Paladine: Ionly have 2 monitors
[23:48:51] Paladine: I used virtual desktops
[23:48:53] |Torg|: im wathing stargate atlantis on one and typing to you on the other
[23:48:53] Paladine: use
[23:49:07] Paladine: 4 virtual desktops
[23:49:24] ** stuarta has dual heads **
[23:49:28] Paladine: all running across 2 monitors at 2560x1024
[23:49:33] stuarta: it is the way forward.
[23:49:38] Paladine: I have 4 heads
[23:49:46] Paladine: hense why I am getting a third monitor
[23:49:47] ** stuarta becomes envious **
[23:50:02] Paladine: dual NVidia 6600GT PCI-E SLI cards
[23:50:04] stuarta: 4 heads = 4 monitors
[23:50:05] |Torg|: I want a third but my vieo card only has dual dvi
[23:50:24] Paladine: yes but I don't physically have room on my desk for 4 monitors :)
[23:50:39] Paladine: both my monitors are DVI at the moment
[23:50:45] ** stuarta suggests a monitor tree. 2up 2 down **
[23:50:46] Paladine: the 3rd one will be too
[23:51:00] |Torg|: I use sony sdm-94s
[23:51:19] Paladine: stuarta, that will probably be what I do after I get fed up with -only- having 3x 19" LCDs ;)
[23:51:49] stuarta: now that's not fair :(
[23:51:53] |Torg|: yea stuarta if I go for anther vieo card im gon put in two more 19" lcds and a tree
[23:51:56] Paladine: but as I am currently in school, I have to watch the spends
[23:52:13] |Torg|: in fact it will b a good use of this months bonus check :P
[23:52:22] stuarta: i could do with a 3rd screen
[23:52:40] stuarta: nice widescreen mounted on the wall, for the frontend
[23:52:42] Paladine: if I go with 4 I will will mod my desk
[23:52:51] Paladine: cos the top two will be too high up otherwise
[23:52:57] Paladine: my desk has a monitor shelf
[23:53:03] |Torg|: wall mount tree would be cool, got any good links to one?
[23:53:04] Paladine: where my monitors currently sit
[23:53:24] Paladine: torg, i was thinking of making a freestanding tree out of scaffolding
[23:53:41] |Torg|: I was thinking more like pvc with mounts
[23:54:06] Paladine: you can buy used steel scaffold pipes on ebay with couplings really cheap
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[23:55:03] |Torg|: yea but pvc is cheper, easier to use and would hld them just fine
[23:55:17] Paladine: I actually designed a plan for building an entire PC workzone with scaffold pipes for the frame :)
[23:55:35] |Torg|: I was also thinking of adding a widescreen to the middle of my two 19" ones
[23:55:43] |Torg|: thart way I dont piss off the wife too mcuh
[23:55:51] Paladine: I am thinking of buying a 32" LCD after xmas, during the sales
[23:55:55] Paladine: but it would be for the lounge
[23:56:09] Paladine: so for the box I am building for missus and son
[23:56:11] |Torg|: shee stil thinks my comptuer is faster then hers becase I have two monitors not one
[23:56:55] Paladine: better resolution on lcd tv than crt tv
[23:57:04] Paladine: and no faffing around with scart adapters
[23:57:09] Paladine: just use the vga in on the lcd tv
[23:57:31] Paladine: shouldbe able to pick up a 32" lcd after xmas during the new year sales for under 300 GBP
[23:57:45] Paladine: they currently start at about 360GBP
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[23:58:11] Paladine: none brand name but still vga input, pip and 8ms response time
[23:58:26] |Torg|: those are like $1000 here
[23:58:42] Paladine: yeah brand name models start at about the same here in the UK
[23:58:49] Paladine: for cheap brands
[23:58:56] Paladine: but generic ones are much cheaper
[23:59:56] Paladine: most people fail to realise that there are only about a dozen companies in the world that actually make the lcd screens

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