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[00:01:53] | brainsforsale: | ok |
[00:02:01] | brainsforsale: | my i have digital cable |
[00:02:11] | brainsforsale: | but i only need channels up to 99 |
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[00:06:51] | Juski: | back on the theme gang |
[00:07:29] | brainsforsale: | juski |
[00:07:45] | brainsforsale: | do you know anything about my question above ^? |
[00:08:02] | riddlebox: | Saviq, hrmm I wonder if ubuntu makes it harder I have done both and still cant access |
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[00:10:44] | Juski: | brainsforsale: no idea. we have channels starting at 101 & going up to whoknowswhat here |
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[00:11:08] | brainsforsale: | what? |
[00:11:20] | brainsforsale: | what about channel 25 fox |
[00:11:29] | brainsforsale: | or whatever your local fox is |
[00:11:50] | Juski: | in the UK here |
[00:12:14] | Juski: | the great thing about mythtv is that you can number your channels however the hell you like :) |
[00:12:51] | brainsforsale: | but do you know whether i have to connect to the cable box |
[00:12:58] | Saviq: | riddlebox: nope – You need to bind external iface with my.conf and let remote connections work with adding a user something@% |
[00:13:07] | brainsforsale: | or to the walls coax |
[00:13:27] | Juski: | brainsforsale: if the cable source is digital & encrypted then I expect you'd need to go through the set top box the cable company provides |
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[00:13:38] | brainsforsale: | ok |
[00:14:00] | Juski: | but I don't know enough about USA cable tv to be categoric about it |
[00:14:04] | brainsforsale: | but then can i change channels with the mythtv linux box? |
[00:14:06] | riddlebox: | Saviq, so the line bind-address, should be the ip address of the system right? |
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[00:15:00] | kuse: | How can I see if I compiled mythtv with lirc support? |
[00:15:03] | Saviq: | yeah external iface |
[00:15:29] | Juski: | kuse: the default is with lirc support |
[00:15:43] | riddlebox: | Saviq, forgive me but it should have the ip address, or should I put external iface? |
[00:15:47] | Juski: | if lirc isn't running you'll see three tell-tale messages when you start mythfrontend |
[00:15:48] | Anduin: | kuse: mythfrontend --version |
[00:15:50] | kuse: | Juski: ok, how do I setup the remote? |
[00:16:08] | Juski: | kuse: first of all you sit down & read some documentation about lirc & mythtv |
[00:16:57] | kuse: | Juski: I have from the wiki, one should use ~/.mythtv/lircrc hu? |
[00:17:00] | Juski: | I'll give you some clues though, and these are free |
[00:17:28] | Juski: | 1. you need lirc to work with your hardware. you can verify this by running irw & pressing all the buttons on your remote in turn to make sure they produce output |
[00:18:02] | kuse: | I used mode2 and it produced output from the remote |
[00:18:14] | Juski: | 2. for mythtv itself you need a ~/.mythtv/lircrc file whose button names match up with the button names you saw irw output. those will also be the button names defined in the lircd.conf or lirc.conf file |
[00:18:20] | Juski: | mode2 != irw |
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[00:18:50] | Juski: | mode2 will spurt out raw codes IIRC, and is no way to verify the remote's buttons are mapped to lirc buttons ;) |
[00:19:17] | kuse: | ok, should I use som argument to irw ? (the socket arg) |
[00:19:24] | ryanduff: | i'm looking to build a dual tuner hdtv system, does anyone have recommendations for a card/cards? |
[00:19:26] | Juski: | 3. some ready-made lirc config files are a load of tosh and may not work with your remote |
[00:19:42] | ryanduff: | i was also a bit confused as to controlling 2 cards via 1 remote |
[00:20:03] | Juski: | ryanduff: you need only one remote. the remote controls _mythtv_ not the tuner |
[00:20:18] | Juski: | the tuner card merely passes on the remote stuff ;) |
[00:20:36] | ryanduff: | gotcha, i figured that but wasn't sure |
[00:21:12] | ryanduff: | any recommendations on capture cards... i was hoping for something with hardware encoding |
[00:21:13] | ** Juski grumbles "welcome to #mythtv/lirc-users" btw ** | |
[00:21:55] | Juski: | ryanduff: there are no hardware encoding HDTV cards. the HDTV mpeg2 streams are already encoded and only need to be demodulated (i.e. turned from a signal into data) and passed down the PCI bus |
[00:22:52] | Juski: | that might also answer the question about whether or not you can just grab some component or HDMI from a cable receiver – you can't. Not yet anyway |
[00:23:01] | ryanduff: | well that makes it simpler... so there really isn't a load on the cpu in a hd based system as opposed to an analog system |
[00:23:07] | Juski: | it has to be OTA HD, or in some cases, QAM from your cable |
[00:23:18] | ryanduff: | i'm planning on using over the air |
[00:23:31] | ryanduff: | i'm trying to cut my com(crap) cable bill |
[00:23:35] | Juski: | ryanduff: recording OTA HD will consume way less CPU than using a basic framegrabber card |
[00:23:37] | riddlebox: | Saviq, hrmm I can now get mythfrontend to work, but it says that the master backend isnt running and it is |
[00:23:47] | ryanduff: | all the shows i watch are on network channels and I get HD OTA where I live |
[00:23:58] | Saviq: | can't help You here... |
[00:24:05] | Saviq: | never used two machine setup |
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[00:24:30] | Juski: | ryanduff: I'm not saying anybody should try this but you could prolly record OTA HD on a sub 1ghz machine. not that it'll ever be able to play it back at full framerate of course ;) |
[00:25:25] | Juski: | riddlebox: so you've bound mysql to use the real IP address of the backend, yeah? did you stop mythbackend & mysql, then restart mysql & mythbackend? |
[00:25:26] | ryanduff: | Juski: I figured that, I normally build boxes more powerful than they need to be so I'll end up grabbing a mobo/cpu combo with a cpu in the athlon 3000 range |
[00:25:39] | riddlebox: | Juski, I rebooted the machine |
[00:25:56] | Juski: | riddlebox: a little overzealous but that'd get mysql restarted nicely |
[00:26:22] | Juski: | riddlebox: next – have you looked at the official docs about setting up mysql & mythtv to work with separate machines? |
[00:27:27] | Juski: | actually you could try logging into the backend's mysql server from the new frontend to see if that works. then you can check that the backend is set to have the 'backend server ip' as the machine's real IP address, and that the 'master backend ip address' is set to the same |
[00:27:41] | Juski: | that should basically do it |
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[00:28:11] | riddlebox: | Juski, it does work, I have done that too |
[00:28:13] | Juski: | oh and while you're at it, make sure the backend & new frontend have different hostnames. wouldn't recommend you change the backend's hostname though |
[00:28:38] | Juski: | if they're both the same hostname you'll have problems playing back recordings |
[00:29:17] | Juski: | riddlebox: so did you stop mythbackend & make sure the backend's ip & master backend ip are not 127.0.0.1 ? |
[00:29:35] | Juski: | if you changed em without restarting mythbackend that'd cause the problem too |
[00:29:53] | Juski: | that's why mythtv-setup asks if you know what you're doing ;) |
[00:30:47] | kuse: | Juski: ty now my remote works... I also have a VFD is that compatible with mythtv's lcd function? |
[00:31:04] | Juski: | kuse: sorry dunno anything about LCDs |
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[00:31:40] | kuse: | Juski: Ok, there's a option in the settings about lcd's |
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[00:31:59] | Juski: | lcdproc will be needed & that's as far as my knowhow goes w.r.t that |
[00:32:20] | kuse: | Juski: ok, ill look into lcdproc |
[00:32:40] | Juski: | could even be wrong at that but it'd be a good place to start looking I guess |
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[00:34:03] | Juski: | folks – is this a better watermark for 'watch recordings' (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/tv_playback.png) than this : http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ . . . eenshot4.png ? whatcha think? |
[00:38:14] | Smeven: | I think i am going to attempt to make an image for mythtv based off libc |
[00:38:58] | Smeven: | I will probably just include all the myth stuff, dropbear, busybox, and possibly nfs or ftp. |
[00:39:19] | Smeven: | then burn it to a flash disk |
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[00:41:00] | Simplton: | Is anyone familiar with the error message: MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: Error getting codec params using old IVTV ioctl |
[00:41:32] | Simplton: | It happens when I try to start a video stream to the frontend |
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[00:41:58] | Tronic: | I'm having reliable segfaults... http://rafb.net/paste/results/RXWn2U55.html |
[00:46:05] | Juski: | Simplton: no idea but I think I've seen that posted here before. |
[00:47:32] | Juski: | Tronic: it might be best to create a ticket for that, include as much info as possible including the steps you take to reproduce it. if you don't feel up to that (and I wouldn't) just a post on the users' mailing list & someone will hopefully be able to help. segfaults can be er.. sticky things & need more experienced help than I think is currently awake here |
[00:50:01] | Juski: | though as a first exercise you could try running mysqlcheck on the mythconverg db |
[00:50:57] | Juski: | oh and before creating any ticket, make sure to search for the issue first – it may already be flagged |
[00:52:52] | Tronic: | mysqlcheck found issues. Let's see if running it fixed the segfaulting too. |
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[00:55:00] | frankrizzo: | hey, I am getting an error message when trying to start mythbackend "ChannelBase(2): InitialzeInputs(): Coould not get inputs for the capturecard. Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs? |
[00:55:05] | Simplton: | Is anyone familiar with the error message: MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: Error getting codec params using old IVTV ioctl |
[00:55:15] | Simplton: | It happens when I try to start a video stream to the frontend |
[00:55:30] | Juski: | frankrizzo: Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs |
[00:55:53] | frankrizzo: | When I did a test capture from a terminal window everything worked fine, and when I scan for channels it comes up with all of them |
[00:56:07] | frankrizzo: | to the best of my knowledge I have juski |
[00:56:43] | frankrizzo: | I edited the modprobe.conf |
[00:56:45] | Juski: | when mythtv says 'video sources' it actually means EPG data sources. |
[00:57:07] | Juski: | i.e. programme guide data sources as opposed to say video inputs |
[00:57:36] | frankrizzo: | so like the zap2it for US? |
[00:57:42] | Juski: | so you've not set up a 'video source' yet I bet – i.e. not yet told mythtv where to get it program guide data from |
[00:57:53] | Juski: | and not assigned that to the tuner input |
[00:58:04] | frankrizzo: | i did, I sychned it up and did a mythfilldatabase |
[00:58:10] | frankrizzo: | i can redo that though I guess |
[00:58:26] | Juski: | did you do that before or after scanning for channels? |
[00:58:33] | frankrizzo: | before |
[00:58:44] | frankrizzo: | oh, i guess that would be why |
[00:58:52] | Juski: | nope |
[00:59:05] | Juski: | should be _before_ which is why it's higher in the menu |
[00:59:05] | frankrizzo: | ok |
[00:59:25] | frankrizzo: | okay, well I did that then |
[00:59:50] | frankrizzo: | I did bring it from a digital box to an analog outlet, although both of them were using the composite (BNC) cable |
[01:00:26] | Juski: | so you setup the general page, set it to store recordings in xyz location, then set up your capture card(s), then video sources (which if using zap2it you'd already set up a zap2it account), then assigned the 'video source' to a tuner (or tuner input), then scanned for channels? |
[01:00:45] | frankrizzo: | yup |
[01:01:21] | Juski: | stop mythbackend, go into mythtv-setup again & make sure it's all nice |
[01:01:46] | frankrizzo: | ok |
[01:03:56] | frankrizzo: | i think I found it |
[01:04:12] | frankrizzo: | under tuners, I had my PVR 150s set to analog V4l capture card instead of MPEG-2 encoder card |
[01:04:40] | frankrizzo: | the analog v41 option was the default, and it had the right probe info under it, so it seemed like it was fine to leave it as default |
[01:04:45] | frankrizzo: | lets see if this fixes it |
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[01:08:51] | frankrizzo: | that did the trick |
[01:09:06] | frankrizzo: | thanks for making me double check the settings |
[01:11:42] | Juski: | heh. no problem. 2nd pair of eyes generally helps ;) |
[01:11:59] | Juski: | tired as mine are right now |
[01:12:03] | Simplton: | Is anyone familiar with the error message: MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: Error getting codec params using old IVTV ioctl |
[01:13:39] | frankrizzo: | sorry, cant say that I am |
[01:14:01] | frankrizzo: | did you check the mailinglist archive? I searched your message and found some things that may or may not be related, cant tell |
[01:14:38] | Simplton: | Where can I get the mailing list archive |
[01:15:08] | frankrizzo: | scroll to the top of this conversation |
[01:15:18] | Simplton: | thnx |
[01:15:18] | frankrizzo: | when you logged in there was a message, the link is there |
[01:16:22] | Juski: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ |
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[01:23:38] | Juski: | oo this is exciting.. playing with the OSD now |
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[01:24:28] | frankrizzo: | do you have your own that you made? |
[01:25:15] | Juski: | just playing for now |
[01:25:19] | Juski: | gonna grab a screenshot |
[01:25:56] | frankrizzo: | nice |
[01:27:14] | frankrizzo: | tommorw I am going to buy a firewire cable and try firewire capture from the cable box, I am thinking the quality will be better than composite |
[01:28:19] | Juski: | haha slightly |
[01:28:30] | Juski: | damn I need to run mythfrontend without xv |
[01:28:51] | frankrizzo: | was the slightly sarcastic, as in it will be a ton better? |
[01:30:29] | Juski: | it will be better by a huge factor |
[01:31:04] | frankrizzo: | nice, i can only use it as 1 tuner though, right? |
[01:31:29] | frankrizzo: | i have 2 PVR 150s right now |
[01:31:34] | Juski: | as far as I know but maybe not |
[01:31:38] | frankrizzo: | and firewire support on the motherboard |
[01:31:43] | frankrizzo: | k, i'll investigate |
[01:32:08] | frankrizzo: | ive been disapointed with the quality of compoiste, but having a dvr is so awesome I ignore the lack of quality |
[01:32:44] | frankrizzo: | i bet I could capture in HDTV then....... |
[01:32:54] | frankrizzo: | hmm, that would be nice |
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[01:34:40] | frankrizzo: | brb |
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[01:36:42] | rogue780: | anyone know how to free a tuner? there is a tuner that says it is watching live tv, but no front end is watching tv |
[01:37:36] | rogue780: | and also when I go to http://localhost/mythweb all is shows me is a directory listing, and when I click the php file it asks if I want to download. it was working before, but it randomly stopped |
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[01:42:55] | bobdole: | niiiiiiiiiiice |
[01:43:01] | bobdole: | my cable modem works downstairs |
[01:43:04] | bobdole: | this is frankrizzo |
[01:43:21] | bobdole: | now I can not bring my mythtv box upstairs every time it needs the internet |
[01:50:45] | Juski: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/newosd.png :) |
[01:52:02] | kash: | what plugin gives the 'edit keys' menu |
[01:52:15] | bobdole: | looks nice, although may I suggest making it a little more opaque? |
[01:52:27] | Juski: | kash: mythcontrols |
[01:52:36] | kash: | why is that called 'porn' :o |
[01:52:44] | bobdole: | shouldnt it be pron? |
[01:52:46] | kash: | thanks, Juski :) |
[01:53:01] | Juski: | I was only playin' anyway |
[01:53:17] | Juski: | OMG. I'm gonna be the theme guy. oh noes |
[01:55:10] | bobdole: | well I wont label you as the theme guy, but what theme do you use right now? |
[01:55:20] | Juski: | after projectgrayhem & projectgrayhem-wide I said no more. I almost pulled them altogether because of some snotty comments I got. then I moved onto some other things, ticking over a bit. eventually just idly messed about & came up with blootube. now there's an osd coming. shit |
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[01:55:40] | Juski: | I'm using the beta of blootube-wide as a matter of fact |
[01:55:44] | Juski: | testing & tweaking it |
[01:56:31] | Juski: | I tell ya all, kids.. don't mess with the theme bitmaps. not even a little bit. it's like heroin |
[01:56:47] | bobdole: | i'll be content messing with firewire tommorw |
[01:57:39] | Juski: | used to be a grade A art student a very long time ago then one day the magic just vanished. then I discovered theming & here I am sitting up at 2am messing |
[01:57:55] | bobdole: | haha |
[01:58:00] | bobdole: | and we all benifit |
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[01:58:41] | frankrizzo: | well its 9pm on a friday night....and im messing with myth |
[01:58:52] | frankrizzo: | waiting for friends to get their crap together and maybe do something |
[01:59:07] | Saviq: | hmm... 3am here ;] |
[02:01:40] | frankrizzo: | im at my parents house for thanksgiving, i brought my mythtv box cuz their internet is like 100 times better than mine |
[02:01:50] | frankrizzo: | and now I want to make them a home theater.... |
[02:02:21] | kash: | heh |
[02:02:21] | kash: | :) |
[02:02:36] | kash: | i just bought a second tuner card for the centre downstairs |
[02:02:42] | Juski: | hrm I need some icons on this box |
[02:02:49] | kash: | i mean i *just* bought it |
[02:03:00] | kash: | it's a WinTV Go Plus |
[02:04:20] | frankrizzo: | is that usb? |
[02:04:23] | kash: | no |
[02:04:26] | kash: | PCI |
[02:04:50] | kash: | http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4384735?site . . . MAIN_RSLT_PG |
[02:05:12] | frankrizzo: | Juski, is this the beta of it? |
[02:05:12] | frankrizzo: | http://www.jobs-khakis-chicks.com/MythTV/iuliusbloo-osd.tar.bz2 |
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[02:06:25] | Juski: | frankrizzo: nope |
[02:06:34] | Juski: | that's something else |
[02:06:54] | Juski: | the beta theme is blootube-wide from www.juski.co.uk by way of the projectgrayhem theme page |
[02:07:04] | Juski: | and it's only a GUI theme, not OSD |
[02:07:47] | frankrizzo: | ah, what osd are you using? |
[02:08:33] | Juski: | I'm adapting Retro-OSD |
[02:13:29] | Juski: | ahaha should be able to knock something out pretty quick for the OSD |
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[02:50:03] | defaultro: | evening folks, is there any video google plugin for myth? |
[02:58:05] | frankrizzo: | not that I know of |
[02:59:37] | Juski: | video google? |
[03:00:17] | Juski: | I saw on the -dev mailing list a few days ago someone is working on putting video rss functionality into mythnews |
[03:01:05] | defaultro: | oh |
[03:01:08] | defaultro: | that's cool |
[03:02:31] | Juski: | .. if you're into that sort of thing I suppose it is, yeah |
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[03:12:20] | Juski: | whee there's my webpage updated to show the new OSD bit which is also now W.I.P. |
[03:12:27] | frankrizzo: | lets see if I can configure my xorg.conf file correctly the first time to do component output to an lcd hdtv |
[03:12:45] | Juski: | frankrizzo: not got DVI? |
[03:13:13] | frankrizzo: | i dont have a dvi cable at my parents house |
[03:13:22] | frankrizzo: | will buy one tommorw with the firewire cable if its cheap |
[03:13:34] | Juski: | ah right |
[03:13:39] | frankrizzo: | i have a 40 inch one at my place using a dvi -> hdmi cable |
[03:13:56] | Juski: | well folks.. something to mull over – the last 2 screenshots here: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/comingsoon/ |
[03:14:07] | frankrizzo: | i actually got this 37 inch one for my parents for 500 bucks |
[03:14:58] | frankrizzo: | slowly loading.... |
[03:17:04] | Juski: | I guess when this is all done the only frontier I've yet to tackle is a skin for mythweb |
[03:17:46] | frankrizzo: | the theme looks pretty nice |
[03:17:54] | frankrizzo: | is it made for widescreen? |
[03:18:12] | Juski: | yeah |
[03:18:26] | Juski: | a 4:3 version will come eventually, probably in the new year |
[03:18:45] | frankrizzo: | im good with the widescreen |
[03:19:28] | Juski: | heh. me too |
[03:19:33] | frankrizzo: | can I download the osd and give it a whirl, or are you not ready? |
[03:19:42] | Juski: | it's not ready yet |
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[03:19:53] | Juski: | I may well finish it before the theme |
[03:20:06] | Juski: | that said the theme is _almost_ there now |
[03:22:55] | frankrizzo: | wow, I did not realize this screen was 108-p |
[03:22:57] | frankrizzo: | 1080p |
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[03:24:58] | Juski: | for $500? bargain! |
[03:26:41] | frankrizzo: | whoops, 1080i it looks like |
[03:29:56] | defaultro: | My friend just bought a vizio 42" LCD. He connected the comcast cable directly to DTV input. He said that he is able to see Discovery HD. WHOA! |
[03:30:05] | defaultro: | I'm going to check it out tomorrow |
[03:30:18] | defaultro: | I don't know how that would happen, he doesn't have stb |
[03:30:55] | defaultro: | if it's true, what's with the Vizio tuner that's not in our Fusion card? |
[03:32:11] | Juski: | anyway.. 3.30am – bout time I hit the hay |
[03:32:18] | frankrizzo: | have a good one |
[03:32:18] | Juski: | g'nighty |
[03:34:12] | frankrizzo: | ewwww, composite sucks |
[03:34:23] | defaultro: | composite really does suck |
[03:38:55] | frankrizzo: | crap, the funky problem is back. |
[03:39:05] | frankrizzo: | for some reason this thing is ignoring the color red |
[03:39:21] | frankrizzo: | when I unplug the red cable, the screen coloration doesnt change |
[03:39:27] | frankrizzo: | and it looks way out of whack w/o red |
[03:41:28] | frankrizzo: | i think i need that dvi cable.... |
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[03:52:01] | frame: | Hi, is anyone using xbmcmythtv? |
[03:52:11] | frame: | I'm having some problems with the default.py |
[03:52:52] | frame: | Using the gasgiver xmbc release with the latest xbmcmythtv |
[03:53:41] | kslater: | what's xbmcmythtv? |
[03:55:22] | frame: | http://www.google.com/search?q=xbmcmythtv |
[04:10:30] | defaultro: | that's a cool app |
[04:10:52] | defaultro: | hi frame, do you think an xbox(non-360) can be installed with an HD-DVD? |
[04:13:27] | frame: | i have no idea. |
[04:13:36] | frankrizzo: | and have it work in HD |
[04:13:39] | frankrizzo: | ? |
[04:13:44] | frame: | I did buy a modded dvd drive though, that supports all kinds of media formats. |
[04:13:50] | frame: | better then the orginal at least. |
[04:14:11] | defaultro: | oh ok :( |
[04:14:44] | defaultro: | do you know where I should buy xbox? |
[04:14:54] | frame: | craigslist |
[04:15:24] | defaultro: | k |
[04:15:44] | defaultro: | ebay is more dangerous right? |
[04:15:47] | rogue780: | frame, did you use a mod-chip or the software only type? |
[04:16:11] | rogue780: | defaultro, yes. if you get it from ebay 1 in 10 will give you anthrax ;) |
[04:16:19] | defaultro: | anthrax? |
[04:16:27] | frame: | defaultro i have a debug kit. |
[04:16:29] | rogue780: | defaultro, it was a joke |
[04:16:37] | defaultro: | oh |
[04:16:39] | defaultro: | :) |
[04:16:46] | defaultro: | how is craig different from ebay? |
[04:16:50] | rogue780: | defaultro, craigslist and ebay are both good. |
[04:16:51] | defaultro: | i've never tried craig |
[04:16:57] | defaultro: | ok |
[04:16:57] | frame: | It's all local. :P |
[04:17:11] | frame: | it works well, at least where i am. |
[04:17:12] | rogue780: | defaultro, with craigslist it is local, you go and pick it up from the the person- thus no shipping |
[04:17:27] | defaultro: | bam |
[04:17:30] | defaultro: | that's a good one |
[04:17:31] | rogue780: | defaultro, but if you live in baltimore like me, you really don't want to go out and meet to mane random people |
[04:17:38] | defaultro: | oh |
[04:17:39] | defaultro: | :) |
[04:17:42] | frame: | yeah, and their posts are always negotiable. |
[04:17:55] | defaultro: | is there a white xbox? |
[04:18:02] | defaultro: | my friend has the black |
[04:18:04] | rogue780: | the 360 |
[04:18:06] | frame: | mine is translucent green. |
[04:18:07] | defaultro: | nope |
[04:18:08] | rogue780: | is white |
[04:18:10] | defaultro: | the old xbox |
[04:18:17] | rogue780: | spray-paint will make an old one white |
[04:18:32] | defaultro: | but they're both has the same features right? |
[04:18:33] | rogue780: | I think they have "skins" you can put on xbox's. not sure if they have white or not |
[04:18:35] | defaultro: | so i should not worry? |
[04:18:44] | defaultro: | oh, im talking about the physical |
[04:19:04] | rogue780: | defaultro, go to craiglist.org and click on the nearest city to you. and search |
[04:19:30] | frame: | yeah, if you're paranoid about meeting people, use ebay. :P |
[04:19:43] | rogue780: | and do the same with ebay. then use whichever is the better deal in the end |
[04:19:51] | kslater: | is there an easy way around the 2G file size limit that samba has? |
[04:20:00] | defaultro: | i'm ok with meeting people, i grew up on a very busy street with fights every week :D |
[04:20:27] | defaultro: | looks like i want to go with craiglists |
[04:20:38] | defaultro: | i hope i can find a crt projector too |
[04:21:19] | defaultro: | and question folks, sometimes the poster writes "mint condition". What does it really mean? |
[04:22:19] | frame: | fuck if i know. |
[04:22:25] | frame: | there is really no way to tell until you get it. |
[04:22:47] | defaultro: | no, i just wanted to know what mint condition mean |
[04:22:51] | defaultro: | :D hehehe |
[04:22:57] | defaultro: | does it mean, bad condition? |
[04:23:01] | frame: | which is why i love craigslist, i dont have to hassle with some douche in canada about a faulty product. |
[04:23:26] | frame: | It means 'almost retail'. |
[04:23:48] | frame: | and if it isn't almost retail, when you get it. They lied. |
[04:24:08] | defaultro: | ph |
[04:24:10] | defaultro: | oh |
[04:24:13] | defaultro: | almost new then |
[04:25:49] | defaultro: | do you know if there is an xbox channel? |
[04:26:06] | frame: | i dont know about this network. |
[04:26:08] | frame: | try efnet. |
[04:26:18] | defaultro: | ah, that's why i dont see any |
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[04:27:20] | Anduin: | defaultro: as in from the mint, before it has passed through dirty hands |
[04:27:27] | kslater: | can any of the commonly used network file systems do 1.8M / s throughput? |
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[04:28:12] | nweaver916: | anyone know how to get MythTV/DVD to connect to the web and download info for a DVD I rip inside of Myth? pressing "i" does nothing |
[04:28:18] | defaultro: | sorry Anduin, i never used the word mint. English is not my native tongue too. I know it's a simple word :( |
[04:31:01] | Anduin: | defaultro: coin money is made there |
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[04:32:18] | frame: | kslater can't samba? |
[04:32:27] | Anduin: | nweaver916: You can do an imdb search from the video manager |
[04:32:51] | kslater: | frame – well samba seems to have a 2G limit to file size |
[04:33:49] | frame: | You mean that, if you transfer a 4G file across your network, it dies at 2G? |
[04:33:58] | frame: | Or the bandwith that it's capable of? |
[04:34:00] | kslater: | yes |
[04:34:04] | kslater: | the former |
[04:34:08] | kslater: | dies after 2G |
[04:34:11] | frame: | haha, that has nothing to do with samba. :P |
[04:34:41] | frame: | I routinely transfer files in excess of 20G across my samba shares. |
[04:34:43] | kslater: | ok, I'm game, what does it have to do with? |
[04:35:05] | defaultro: | so guys, if we send a 2 or 3 questions to the seller on ebay about the product he is selling, and the seller does not answer, should I consider it a scam? |
[04:35:20] | kslater: | fs on either end is jfs over lvm2 |
[04:35:22] | frame: | Swap your nics out. :P |
[04:35:44] | kslater: | ooh, can't do that. nics on the motherboard |
[04:35:55] | frame: | defaultro...whatever you want on ebay, a million people have. |
[04:36:01] | kslater: | machines only have 1 pci slot and it's used for capture cards |
[04:36:01] | frame: | dont wait, just go to the next one. |
[04:36:13] | frame: | kslater, shuttle? |
[04:36:28] | kslater: | no, custom epia based boxes |
[04:36:44] | frame: | that sucks. |
[04:36:50] | frame: | fuck with your duplex settings. |
[04:36:57] | frame: | or something. :P |
[04:37:18] | kslater: | you really think it's the NIC and not some setting in smb.conf that I didn't tweak? |
[04:37:36] | frame: | my smb.confs are not very elaborate. |
[04:37:49] | frame: | and i dont have anything in there about limits at all. |
[04:39:02] | kslater: | frame: can samba do 1800k / s throughput? |
[04:39:25] | frame: | That's less then 2M |
[04:39:33] | frame: | my network is 10M |
[04:39:40] | frame: | i havn't upgraded yet. :P |
[04:39:48] | frame: | 100m/bit |
[04:39:52] | kslater: | 10Mbit / s theorectical |
[04:40:21] | frame: | You're not going to get a flat 10M anywhere but a lab. |
[04:40:26] | frame: | But it's close enough that i dont care. |
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[04:43:54] | kslater: | frame: do you use smbmnt to connect to your drives? |
[04:44:09] | GreyFoxx: | On a home network you shouldbe able to hit 9MB+ depending on tdrives you are reading and writting to |
[04:44:44] | kslater: | that's the kind of performance I need to get, but I'm not there currently |
[04:44:46] | frame: | smbmount |
[04:47:21] | kslater: | seems like maybe I need to give some additional options to my smbmount commands |
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[04:48:07] | Anduin: | kslater: or switch to cifs, smb has -o lfs (or had) |
[04:48:18] | crweb: | hello, I'm looking at getting a WinTV PVR 500, and I'd like to know which IR system works with linux ? |
[04:48:28] | frame: | lirc |
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[04:49:09] | frame: | is anyone using xbmcmythtv? |
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[04:49:20] | frame: | I'm having some trouble with the default.py |
[04:50:55] | kslater: | Anduin: I just remounted using the -o lfs, we'll see if that works better |
[04:53:33] | kslater: | maybe this is documented somewhere and if so feel free to slap me with a trout |
[04:54:07] | kslater: | once I added my second tuner, I expected some of my 2 programs in 1 time slot conflicts to get resolved, but they haven't. |
[04:54:51] | kslater: | does myth always attempt to record the higher priority show on the first capture device? |
[05:02:22] | Anduin: | kslater: If it is just a 2 in 1 conflict, yes, two tuners would resolve that (did you add it in mythtv-setup, associate it with an input, etc)? |
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[05:04:43] | kslater: | I did add it via mythtv-setup |
[05:05:00] | kslater: | tuner 2 only has a limited selection of channels |
[05:08:38] | kslater: | so 2 shows, show on chan 2 has priority 33 and shows up scheduled for tuner 1, show on chan 4 shows up as conflict. |
[05:09:26] | kslater: | tuner 2 doesn't have chan 4, but tuner 1 does. |
[05:10:02] | nweaver916: | from the media library, pressing "i" to retrieve info about a movie does nothing, any ideas/config files I might have missed? |
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[05:13:01] | nweaver916: | anyone? |
[05:13:16] | kslater: | sorry, haven't tried that with my machine |
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[05:15:19] | nweaver916: | can't seem to find any info on it, other then to press i to do it... |
[05:15:28] | nweaver916: | trying to rip my DVD collection, would be nice if that worked |
[05:18:29] | Anduin: | nweaver916: 'i' should bring up a menu with "Search IMDB" |
[05:20:52] | nweaver916: | i does nothing |
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[05:21:10] | nweaver916: | is that in the video window, with all titles listed, or after you go in? |
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[05:21:29] | Anduin: | nweaver916: It is in the video manager |
[05:22:12] | nweaver916: | from the video window, highlighting the title and pressing "i" brings up a menu that says "Watch this video" "View full plot" "View details" and "Cancel" |
[05:22:20] | nweaver916: | that's from the video manager |
[05:22:33] | nweaver916: | hitting enter gives me a detailed screen, pressing "i" does nothing |
[05:23:46] | nweaver916: | copying videos to another pc (this is my laptop, where I am currently ripping from while I wait for my DVD drive to arrive) to see if that one works |
[05:24:12] | GreyFoxx: | No, it's not, that is the video Gallery |
[05:25:23] | nweaver916: | so how do I get to the video manager, and not the video gallery? |
[05:25:55] | nweaver916: | nm, found it |
[05:26:07] | GreyFoxx: | Using the classic menus, which I use There are 4 options, "Browse Videos, Video List, Video Gallery and Video Manager, notsure about "DVR" |
[05:26:10] | GreyFoxx: | menus |
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[05:27:09] | Freman: | I'm having a little problem with a mythtv install |
[05:27:19] | Freman: | some channels don't have sound )c: |
[05:27:28] | Freman: | they're allright on the backend but not the front end |
[05:27:34] | Freman: | they're dvb-t channels |
[05:27:39] | Freman: | some have sound fine some not |
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[05:29:53] | FunkyELF: | hey guys, what is the best way to save the audio from a recording into mp3? Like some live performances at music awards and such. |
[05:30:02] | Freman: | http://paste-bin.com/1565 <- this is some logs |
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[05:31:26] | nweaver916: | great, now that I got the images, it core dumps when entering the video gallery |
[05:31:29] | nweaver916: | :( |
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[05:36:01] | gctaylor: | Are there folks using myth-tv and a PVR-350 to capture from an analog camcorder(or VCR I suppose) and then burn to DVD? |
[05:37:17] | FunkyELF: | i've captured from my PVR 500 okay. Didn't burn to DVD though |
[05:38:18] | gctaylor: | FunkyELF: Did you have any color vs. black and white problems? |
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[05:38:59] | Feclar: | so you need 2 tuners to record+watch diff channel? |
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[05:44:39] | frame: | yes |
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[05:51:57] | nweaver916: | can anyone look at a dump and see if anything jumps out at them? Since adding info about ripped DVD's, mythfrontend crashes when going into view videos (video gallery) |
[05:52:33] | FunkyELF: | gctaylor, uhm, I think the color vs. b/w problems have to do with having it set to svideo instead of composite |
[05:53:33] | Freman: | my mythtv isn't playing anything that's not ac3 )c: |
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[05:53:59] | FunkyELF: | I always forget what to have it set on since they use the same input. I have a little composite / svideo adapter, so it is going into the svideo input on the card...but if you set it to svideo it won't work, since it originated from composite it has to be set to composite |
[05:54:03] | FunkyELF: | ...I think |
[05:55:06] | nweaver916: | http://pastebin.com/832449 |
[05:55:11] | nweaver916: | if anyone can take a look at this |
[05:55:53] | lotia: | any recommendations for a DVB usb device? |
[05:56:42] | gctaylor: | FunkyELF: I'm using a little adapter too. I think it's the composite to svideo adapter. I wonder if I can just buy an adapter to go from the camcorder to the TV connector. Seems easiest. |
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[05:57:52] | frame: | is anyone using xbmcmythtv? |
[06:01:12] | Feclar: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4191 |
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[06:01:23] | Feclar: | anyone have expirence with that card? seems like a good deal for a hdtv card |
[06:01:27] | Feclar: | even at the 70$ mark |
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[06:18:50] | djperegrine: | what version of ivtv should I use because I am using 0.7 and I set the backend to use NTSC, it sets my driver to 25 FPS and makes the picture look really choopy and horrible! |
[06:19:24] | djperegrine: | in totem it looks great |
[06:20:21] | nweaver916: | anyone know why mythfrontend crashes after getting IMDB info for a few ripped DVD's? Tried deleting the ~/.mythtv/MythVideo/ pictures, not change |
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[06:30:10] | djperegrine: | :O |
[06:30:15] | djperegrine: | why is no one answerin :( |
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[06:32:53] | anxt: | cause only lusers are on irc on friday night? |
[06:32:56] | anxt: | ppl like me? |
[06:34:12] | frankrizzo: | an dme? |
[06:34:27] | djperegrine: | :( |
[06:34:59] | wireddd: | i'm just waking up from last nights party |
[06:37:46] | Freman: | Anyone know how I can resolve "cards.pcm.iec958" to a hw:0,1 or whatever? |
[06:37:58] | Freman: | I think it's actually a subdevice under one of the hw:0's |
[06:45:20] | AngryElf: | trying to compile 0.19: gamehandler.h:109: error: extra qualification ‘GameHandler::’ on member ‘GetHandlerByName’......any ideas? |
[06:46:11] | fallingHDD: | just wondering is there a plugin that does like playlist management like selecting vids to play on xbmc on teh xbox. the videomyth plugin's interface looks pretty primitive |
[06:52:50] | djperegrine: | have you looked through all the options there are a shitload |
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[07:06:45] | Feclar: | whats an opensource win32 pdf creator? |
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[07:07:58] | Dagmar: | There isn't one. |
[07:08:15] | Dagmar: | ...and don't ask about bloody win32 software |
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[07:09:17] | Feclar: | how bout opensource linux pdf creator then? |
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[07:29:20] | xris: | Feclar: ps2pdf |
[07:30:09] | anxt: | Feclar: cups has pdf driver too iirc |
[07:30:56] | anxt: | openoffice exports to pdf |
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[07:35:21] | DanaG: | I'm trying to get a set-top box to work over Firewire. I can use the test-mpeg2 (piped into VLC) and get video, |
[07:35:47] | DanaG: | but in MythTV, it always turns to channel 48, and then is surprised when it doesn't get any digital video. |
[07:35:55] | DanaG: | How do you set up channels for firewire? |
[07:38:53] | xris: | DanaG: program in a default channel? or better yet, delete channels from your lineup that you don't receive |
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[08:01:31] | Fecla1: | whats the default mythtv user password? |
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[08:10:41] | Fecla1: | hmm do i have to make a mythtv user? |
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[08:17:41] | wireddd: | you should |
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[08:24:14] | Fecla1: | is there a quick way to see if my tuner is working without mythtv? |
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[08:53:11] | djperegrine: | Fecla1 : mplayer /dev/video0 for starters |
[08:53:12] | djperegrine: | or |
[08:53:54] | djperegrine: | cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg then just open the mpg however you want |
[08:54:16] | djperegrine: | last way is prob better because its the raw data and less things can get screwed up |
[08:57:20] | Dagmar: | http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Troubleshooting |
[08:57:23] | Dagmar: | Very useful, that |
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[09:46:20] | kuse: | Is there someone here who uses lcdproc along with mythtv here? |
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[10:19:47] | stillmotion: | hey guys |
[10:20:19] | stillmotion: | How can I get mythtv to find all my videos on my whole computer than just /lib/var/videos |
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[10:22:07] | stillmotion: | and even my music |
[10:23:15] | xris: | stillmotion: man ln |
[10:23:40] | stillmotion: | I don't want to link everything |
[10:23:44] | stillmotion: | too much work |
[10:23:49] | xris: | it only looks in one directory at the moment |
[10:24:04] | stillmotion: | darn |
[10:24:16] | xris: | and I must say, that if you keep your media files in more than 2 or 3 places, you really need some organization in your life. |
[10:24:22] | stillmotion: | can it look in the sub dir's? |
[10:24:31] | xris: | of course |
[10:24:36] | xris: | that's why i suggested symlinks |
[10:24:49] | stillmotion: | well, I just threw this box together today, 3 hdds I don't know where things are |
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[10:29:59] | Dagmar: | "/lib/var"? |
[10:30:02] | Dagmar: | *YUCK* |
[10:30:22] | Dagmar: | Read the FHS already |
[10:30:43] | Juski: | yeah it's short for 'library' and 'variety' :-P |
[10:30:56] | Dagmar: | Not variety, variable. |
[10:31:07] | Dagmar: | Library implies *not* variable |
[10:31:17] | Dagmar: | ...which is why it makes my hair practically stand on end to see that |
[10:31:37] | Juski: | so what is it that comes with that path as defaults? |
[10:32:12] | Dagmar: | Absolutely nothing I've ever seen |
[10:32:52] | Juski: | until ubuntu came into my life I used to keep meeja files in /media |
[10:33:17] | Juski: | but now they're kept in /myth/tv /myth/videos / myth/music etc :) |
[10:33:22] | Juski: | logical if nothing else |
[10:33:43] | Dagmar: | Yep. Those work fine. |
[10:34:05] | Juski: | I was joking about /var/lib before, you know |
[10:34:23] | Juski: | it'd be like keeping your meeja files in /usr/bin |
[10:34:26] | Dagmar: | Dude, /var/lib actually makes a bit of sense |
[10:34:33] | Dagmar: | /lib/var on the other hand. *shudder* |
[10:34:57] | Juski: | anyway it's horses for courses innit |
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[10:35:17] | Juski: | like the interminable "which distro" question |
[10:35:17] | Dagmar: | If I had a clue what that idiom meant, maybe |
[10:35:25] | Dagmar: | It's up there with "safe as houses" for me. |
[10:35:42] | Dagmar: | "safe as houses" tends to have a different feeling in a city with earthquakes |
[10:36:18] | Juski: | I bet! |
[10:37:22] | Dagmar: | Anyway, the FHS rocks (excepting one or two small things) because for the most part it outlines all the things that are the reasons administrators have put files into certain places over the last couple of decades |
[10:37:39] | Dagmar: | Stuff that stays reasonable for that long tends to be almost universally correct |
[10:37:46] | Juski: | if only linux distro would obey... |
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[10:39:03] | Juski: | btw anyone seen this? http://www.linuxforums.org/multimedia/linux_a . . . centre.html? |
[10:40:00] | Juski: | I dunno which MythTV the guy was using though.... "I clicked on the preview to start playback and the recording instantly jumped to life in crystal clear fullscreen. Just as I was about to exit, however, the video jumped a little. I knew it was too good to be true, I dragged the navigational slider back a couple of minutes and to my surprise was dropped right in the middle of a commercial." |
[10:40:34] | Juski: | clicked on the preview?! dragged the navigational slider? what the...? |
[10:41:40] | Dagmar: | Maybe he was running it in a window |
[10:42:19] | Dagmar: | Considering that it apparently automatically pulled int he com... |
[10:42:20] | Dagmar: | No wait a minute |
[10:42:37] | Dagmar: | What the hell version of MythTV has *ever* started commflagging the moment a program started recording? |
[10:42:49] | Dagmar: | That's what it would have to have done by the sequence of events he laid out |
[10:42:56] | Juski: | eggsackerly |
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[10:43:10] | Dagmar: | Man I hate it when asshat reporters *fictionalize* things to make them "more dramatic" |
[10:44:02] | montag___: | hi, just a question, i start mythfrontend with a specific plugin (mythphone...) the plugin start correctly, but i if press ESC and exit from plugin i got a blank screen and i need to stop mythfrontend by hand and restart it, i can restart automatically the plugin ? |
[10:44:18] | Juski: | the linux mag review of mythtv was about the same level. damnit do we have to write our own reviews aswell?! |
[10:44:23] | Dagmar: | Probably so |
[10:46:36] | Juski: | in the very early hours of today I started playing with an OSD tweak btw :) |
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[10:48:53] | Juski: | montag___: what's so wrong with starting mythphone from inside mythfrontend? |
[10:50:01] | montag___: | i've to setup a videophone only kiosk, i think mythtv it's great for this, but i need to start only mythphone.... |
[10:51:12] | Dagmar: | He doesn't want to have to figure out how to kill off all the menu entries except that for MythPhone and he doens't want to have to have people press naything to go into mythPhone and he's too stubborn to simply use Ekiga. |
[10:51:32] | Juski: | you could make a script which checks that the program is still active & if not, kill it & start it up again. some people do that to keep their mythfrontend alive I believe |
[10:51:53] | montag___: | Dagmar: i use ekiga but mythtv it's better for this work.... |
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[11:05:23] | Dagmar: | montag: Just the same, you're not going to be able to get rid of the one menu people are going to have to click through |
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[11:32:18] | kuse: | Is there any debug available to see if mythtv is recieving any remote events? |
[11:35:34] | Juski: | remote events? like telnet messages? |
[11:35:43] | Juski: | or like lirc button presses? |
[11:35:59] | Juski: | anyway --verbose help will help :) |
[11:37:15] | kuse: | Juski: --verbose for mythfrontend or for lircd ? |
[11:37:24] | Juski: | mythfrontend |
[11:38:08] | kuse: | do I have to run lircd as root or as the user who is running mythfrontend? |
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[11:41:04] | Juski: | lircd generally runs as root because the init script runs it |
[11:41:06] | Dagmar: | You want to run it as root |
[11:41:15] | Dagmar: | Exactly for the reasons Juski siad |
[11:41:36] | Dagmar: | It might be possible for someone to overflow lircd, but if they do so, they're in your house and have more skillz than you |
[11:41:53] | kuse: | "mythfrontend --verbose all" doesnt say anything when I push buttons on my remove (lircrc is setup) |
[11:42:42] | Juski: | what does irw say? |
[11:44:42] | Juski: | you know.. irw, the program you use to verify all the remote buttons work.... |
[11:46:54] | kuse: | When I push a button irw tells me that I pushed that button, so that works |
[11:47:44] | kuse: | How is lircrc supposed to work? I've put a test script for one of the buttons with irexec but that only works if I start the irexec app. |
[11:48:20] | kuse: | Isnt lircd supposed to read lircrc? |
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[11:54:22] | Juski: | lircd reads lircd.conf |
[11:54:52] | kuse: | ok but how does lircrc work then? |
[11:54:55] | Juski: | and since mythtv has had native lirc support since the year dot you don't need irexec |
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[11:55:04] | Juski: | mythfrontend reads it when you start mythfrontend |
[11:55:20] | Juski: | which is why you put the lircrc file in ~/.mythtv/ |
[11:55:26] | squeee: | My main menu is showing up in the wrong order, what do I have to change to fix that |
[11:55:52] | kuse: | Juski: But how come my test script only works if run irexec? |
[11:56:02] | Juski: | squeee: what do you mean, the 'wrong order' ? |
[11:56:17] | Juski: | kuse: because your test script doesn't have native lirc support |
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[11:58:44] | Juski: | kuse: it's pretty simple. if irw reports every single button press on your remote, then your lircd.conf file is good. all you have to do then is make sure that the lircrc file you have in ~/.mythtv/ has button definitions (button = foobar) which match the corresponding lircd.conf button names |
[11:59:24] | kuse: | Juski: ok, what about the "config = ?" |
[11:59:30] | Juski: | man lirc |
[11:59:59] | kuse: | Juski: the mythtv wiki tells that the config must match, but it doesnt say waht to match |
[12:00:18] | Juski: | the button names must match if you want the button to actually work |
[12:00:37] | Juski: | secondly the config = lines tell mythtv which function the lirc button 'presses' |
[12:00:38] | kuse: | Juski: ok, so the config is not needed |
[12:01:12] | Juski: | e.g. prog = mythtv |
[12:01:20] | Juski: | button = OK |
[12:01:28] | Juski: | config = Enter |
[12:01:37] | Dagmar: | it's needed. |
[12:01:44] | squeee: | Juski: the main page is: Watch Recordings, Upcoming recordings, Recording, System Status, and Utilities/Setup. Utilities/setup takes me to a more correct main menu |
[12:01:48] | Juski: | which would bind the 'ok' button to mythfrontend's Enter key |
[12:02:03] | Dagmar: | ...and if you'd just look at some other configured file, it would become really obvious what the format is and what the various fields do. |
[12:02:07] | Juski: | squeee: change the menu theme then, to 'default' |
[12:02:27] | Juski: | and if you ask me how to do that I will kill the kittens |
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[12:05:11] | Juski: | every time somebody doesn't rtfm, kittens are killed |
[12:05:13] | Dagmar: | He's not kidding, either |
[12:05:14] | Dagmar: | http://blairhouse.homeip.net/~dagmar/cat13.jpg |
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[12:05:30] | Dagmar: | That poor little tabby is depending on you. |
[12:06:12] | squeee: | Juski: Its default now, i've tried several themes and it is still the same |
[12:06:37] | Juski: | squeee: so the problem is actually that you believe the menu layout isn't what you would call logical |
[12:06:58] | squeee: | considering I have to go to Utilities/Setup to get to watch tv, yes it is |
[12:07:37] | Juski: | this is what the main menu should look like in terms of the button order: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2//comingsoon/ |
[12:08:11] | Dagmar: | squeee: You are changing the wrong theme |
[12:08:11] | Juski: | if it's fucked up, then you've messed with a file somewhere, or there's a packager guy who hasn't got the faintest clue what he's doing (v. unlikely) |
[12:08:18] | Dagmar: | THINK OF THE KITTEH! |
[12:08:32] | Dagmar: | squeee: There are *three* different types of themes you can change. |
[12:08:41] | Dagmar: | One changes the graphics on the menu screens. |
[12:08:54] | Dagmar: | One changes the OSD displays you see while you're watching TV and videos. |
[12:09:12] | Dagmar: | ...and the third, the one you should be looking for changes the order of the menu items |
[12:09:29] | squeee: | oh, i only knew of the first 2, i'll look around thanks |
[12:09:31] | Juski: | but who in the world would put 'watch tv' in utils/setup? |
[12:09:42] | Juski: | they're next, after the kitten |
[12:09:52] | Dagmar: | Juski: Whoever designed the "DVR" menu theme |
[12:09:56] | Dagmar: | Yes, I think it's retarded, too |
[12:10:18] | Juski: | I have to admit I've never played with that 'feature' |
[12:10:28] | squeee: | hah, ok thats what that is, thanks! |
[12:10:29] | Dagmar: | I didnt' even realize there were three theme selectors until I set mine to the lame DVR setting as well |
[12:10:30] | Juski: | config for config's sakes IMHO |
[12:10:42] | squeee: | sorry for the loss of the kittens |
[12:10:58] | Juski: | no kittens have been harmed today .. yet |
[12:11:48] | Juski: | my personal theme consultant on the other hand.. I'm thinking about it |
[12:12:24] | squeee: | Any of you run the svn version? |
[12:12:56] | Juski: | I've got svn from a few nights ago on my dev box |
[12:13:07] | Juski: | oh how the OSD menu has grown |
[12:13:26] | squeee: | The opengl thing? |
[12:13:45] | Juski: | _what_ opengl thing? the fade? |
[12:13:47] | Dagmar: | Now that I've restabilized my hardware I am thinking about doing another package release |
[12:13:58] | Dagmar: | Just gotta catch SVN on a good day, I think |
[12:13:58] | squeee: | I have a roomate that wants to make a frontrow clone for mythtv |
[12:14:11] | Juski: | squeee: wish him all the very best of luck, then |
[12:14:19] | squeee: | hah, yes |
[12:14:33] | Juski: | so he'll be rewriting mythfrontend. nice easy task |
[12:14:45] | kuse: | Juski: Sry for beeing so anoying but mythfrontend doesnt react to my button presses, how can I confirm that mythfrontend is really read lircrc and evaluating the contens? |
[12:14:47] | squeee: | hah, that's what he kinda joked about |
[12:15:01] | squeee: | kuse: Irw? |
[12:15:10] | Juski: | kuse: it's pretty simple. if irw reports every single button press on your remote, then your lircd.conf file is good. all you have to do then is make sure that the lircrc file you have in ~/.mythtv/ has button definitions (button = foobar) which match the corresponding lircd.conf button names |
[12:15:13] | kuse: | squeee: Works like a charm |
[12:15:28] | Juski: | kuse: the key point there is.... |
[12:15:29] | Juski: | make sure that the lircrc file you have in ~/.mythtv/ has button |
[12:15:30] | Juski: | definitions (button = foobar) which match the corresponding lircd.conf button names |
[12:15:30] | Dagmar: | ...and the frontend will say so when it starts if it's talking to lircd |
[12:15:53] | squeee: | kuse: What kind of remote? |
[12:16:02] | Juski: | never mind what kind of remote |
[12:16:13] | kuse: | squeee: imon from Silversone LC10M chassi |
[12:16:43] | Juski: | you know, with the amount of questions we get in here about remote config files, I'm honestly beginning to think that the predefined ones out there have among them a few made by retards |
[12:16:50] | squeee: | Juski: I have a firefly remote that had this problem and it was because when you push a button it gives you 2 commands. So it did kind of matter what remote |
[12:16:59] | Juski: | it doesn't matter |
[12:17:33] | Juski: | if you have a brain you can look at lircd.conf to see what the buttons are defined as and make sure they line up with the 'button =' lines in lircrc |
[12:17:51] | kuse: | Juski: they do, thats the tricky part |
[12:18:12] | Juski: | I don't believe you |
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[12:18:43] | Juski: | if irw works, then the contents of lircrc should be read by mythfrontend. note the lack of a . at the beginning of lircrc |
[12:19:02] | Juski: | e.g. /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc |
[12:19:10] | squeee: | kuse: Another issue I had that caused this... How old are the batteries? |
[12:19:29] | Juski: | squeee: he has said irw works already, so that question's not going anywhere ;) |
[12:19:32] | kuse: | squeee: The batteries are new, irw are getting every push |
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[12:20:21] | Juski: | kuse: in lircrc do the 'prog = ' lines say 'prog = mythtv' or 'prog = irexec' ? |
[12:20:49] | kuse: | I have a line in /etc/lircd.conf "Enter 0x28A195B7" and the lines in lircrc " prog = mythtv / button = Enter / config = Enter" |
[12:21:23] | Juski: | ok. let's save some time here. |
[12:21:35] | Juski: | post your lircrc file into a pastebin |
[12:21:47] | kuse: | ok, a sec. |
[12:23:53] | kuse: | Juski: http://pastebin.com/832539 |
[12:24:28] | Juski: | fyi, pastebin.ca is usually much faster ;) |
[12:25:13] | Juski: | looks fine |
[12:25:47] | kuse: | Juski: let me ask this, should the config = Enter do like enter a menu in mythfrontend? |
[12:25:59] | Juski: | nextly, mythfrontend only reads the lircrc file when it starts |
[12:26:11] | Juski: | so if you changed the lircrc file you will have to restart mythfrontend |
[12:26:48] | kuse: | Juski: I have restarted it many times, should there be a output line that says if mythfrontend read the file or not? |
[12:26:53] | Juski: | kuse: whatever the config line says emulates the actual keyboard press. so config = Enter will do whatever Enter is assigned to in mythfrontend |
[12:27:31] | Juski: | it won't say whether it read the file or not AFAIK |
[12:27:56] | Juski: | does the user mythtv runs as have permission to read the lircrc file? |
[12:28:19] | kuse: | Juski: yeah he owns it and the chmod is 666 on it |
[12:28:39] | Juski: | kuse: ok then. as a test, stop lircd |
[12:28:49] | Juski: | start mythfrontend without any verbose options |
[12:29:25] | Juski: | you'll see something about 'could not connect to socket' and another message telling you to read the preceding two messages... if mythtv was compiled with lirc support |
[12:29:47] | Juski: | it's highly unlikely mythtv was built without lirc support though. very unlikely indeed |
[12:31:04] | Juski: | if you like you can even run irw when mythfrontend is running, to confirm lircd is still working |
[12:31:43] | kuse: | Juski: doesnt say anyting about "could not connect...", wonder if I dont have lirc support |
[12:32:30] | Juski: | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
[12:32:30] | Juski: | mythtv: No such file or directory |
[12:32:30] | Juski: | lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages |
[12:32:51] | Juski: | that's what it'd say if lircd wasn't running and if it was built with lirc support |
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[12:33:26] | Juski: | did you build mythtv yourself or are you using packages? |
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[12:33:33] | kuse: | Juski: I dont get any of those when lircd isnt running |
[12:33:43] | kuse: | Juski: i build it myself |
[12:34:00] | Juski: | how the hell did you manage to build mythtv without lirc support ?!?!?!?!?! |
[12:34:13] | kuse: | Juski: dont know really |
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[12:35:46] | Juski: | kuse: go into the dir where you have the source code |
[12:35:54] | Juski: | and do fgrep "lirc" config.mak |
[12:36:34] | kuse: | Juski: damn I did a new ./configure |
[12:36:51] | Juski: | show me the output of that then |
[12:37:11] | kuse: | Juski: it says lirc support: yes |
[12:38:01] | Juski: | so try looking in config.mak then |
[12:38:11] | kuse: | Juski: CONFIG_LIRC_LIBS=-llirc_client |
[12:38:13] | kuse: | CCONFIG= linux release using_v4l using_oss using_alsa using_ivtv using_dbox2 using_hdhr using_ip_rec using_freebox using_live using_lirc using_joystick_menu using_x11 using_xv using_xrandr using_xvmc using_xvmc_pbuffer using_frontend using_backend |
[12:38:35] | Juski: | hrm |
[12:39:00] | Juski: | are you sure lircd was stopped? |
[12:39:12] | Juski: | ps -ef |grep lirc |
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[12:39:20] | kuse: | Juski: when checking config.mak? |
[12:39:37] | Juski: | no when running mythfrontend & looking for "lirc_init failed" |
[12:42:22] | kuse: | Juski: lircd isnt running and mythfrontend doesnt say a word about lirc |
[12:43:09] | Juski: | so try ldd /usr/bin/mythfrontend |grep lirc |
[12:43:46] | Juski: | or maybe /usr/local/bin not /usr/bin |
[12:44:19] | kuse: | Juski: nothing |
[12:44:30] | Juski: | so you managed to build mythtv without lirc support |
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[12:44:35] | Juski: | for real |
[12:44:36] | Juski: | nice one! |
[12:44:53] | kuse: | Juski: hehe, rebuild it is then :p |
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[12:45:38] | Juski: | I don't think I've ever seen anybody who'd built myth without lirc support. you might want to make sure to read the output of ./configure properly in future ;) |
[12:46:01] | kuse: | yeah :d |
[12:46:43] | Juski: | it wasn't a complete waste of our time then.. you hopefully learned some stuff |
[12:46:55] | Juski: | ;) |
[12:48:28] | kuse: | Juski: no, ty for ur time |
[12:49:18] | kuse: | Juski: You said earlier that mythtv does what eg. Enter is mapped to do, where do I make those mappings? |
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[12:51:09] | Juski: | editing keybindings is done by either mythweb or mythcontrols. don't mess with that too much |
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[13:21:13] | squeee: | I'm trying to get mythplugins to compile and i keep getting this: |
[13:21:13] | squeee: | main.cpp:405: error: âclass ArchiveSettingsâ has no member named âexecâ |
[13:21:44] | squeee: | i'm getting alot of bugs that looks similar to that |
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[13:23:39] | squeee: | ahh nm i forgot qmake |
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[13:32:21] | Dagmar: | Ya don't need qmake |
[13:32:27] | Dagmar: | make calls it for you |
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[13:45:31] | Juski: | you need mythtv installed I think though |
[13:45:39] | Dagmar: | Yep |
[13:45:42] | Dagmar: | That much is for sure |
[13:45:43] | psofa: | Juski, do you know the difference between "PAL-*" and "HD576i" tvstandard on nvidia tvout? |
[13:45:57] | psofa: | maybe the later results in an interlaced X mode? |
[13:45:58] | Juski: | psofa: no I don't |
[13:46:31] | Juski: | worth a go though eh |
[13:46:41] | psofa: | Juski, so when you got an interlaced mode with nvidia drivers how did you get it |
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[13:46:56] | psofa: | i mean where in the logs it states whether it is or not |
[13:47:04] | Juski: | I didn't |
[13:47:16] | psofa: | so youve never gotten such mode? |
[13:47:16] | Juski: | and I've never said that I did |
[13:47:26] | psofa: | :/ |
[13:47:39] | psofa: | btw svideo sucks |
[13:47:44] | Juski: | I just said I didn't have to deinterlace because the flicker filter took care of it, which really took me aback |
[13:48:11] | psofa: | Juski, i have the impression that the flicker filter leads to other problem |
[13:48:12] | psofa: | s |
[13:48:25] | psofa: | if you think about it how does the filter work |
[13:49:04] | Juski: | it reduces interlace flicker by averaging lines & stuff |
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[13:49:23] | psofa: | Juski, so essentially it cuts bandwidth from the signal |
[13:49:32] | Juski: | not quite, no |
[13:49:47] | psofa: | like fast movements arent really so fast etc.. |
[13:49:53] | psofa: | no? |
[13:49:55] | Juski: | I was 2 feet away from a 22" CRT screen & it looked superb |
[13:50:40] | Juski: | look in the logs from like last July or something & you'll be able to find me asking "how come I'm not deinterlacing but I'm not seeing any interlacing artifacts?" |
[13:51:17] | psofa: | btw in the nvidia drivers it says "SCART" Force Scart output format, also called Peritel |
[13:51:21] | psofa: | wtf? |
[13:51:29] | Juski: | then someone explained that it was prolly the flicker filter |
[13:51:37] | Juski: | so that's where _that_ comes from |
[13:52:13] | Juski: | psofa: I dunno. maybe they can do composite sync these days. |
[13:52:24] | Juski: | I don't have all the answers, or even 90% of them :P |
[13:52:29] | psofa: | :P |
[13:53:03] | Juski: | getting proper interlaced output isn't high on my list of priorities right now anyway |
[13:53:06] | psofa: | even if they did there would be no sense having such option in the TVoutformat since you would be using a vga connector |
[13:53:53] | Juski: | psofa: _maybe_ (and it's a fucking big 'maybe') you can use a cable similar to what ATI users can utilise |
[13:54:17] | Juski: | without someone from nvidia driver development here to fully explain it, nobody can tell |
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[13:56:37] | psofa: | Juski, nah the bastards in nvnews tend to silence the issue because the ati cards can do composite.... |
[13:57:23] | Juski: | so that'd be a 'no' then |
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[13:58:51] | Dagmar: | I really haven't seen any problems from using the flicker filter |
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[13:59:06] | Dagmar: | ...and the s-video output is interlaced by default, AFAIK |
[13:59:29] | Juski: | ya we know the tv output is interlaced, but what it gets isn't necessarily interlaced |
[13:59:41] | Juski: | which is why you usually still have to deinterlace |
[13:59:46] | Dagmar: | I dont'. |
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[14:00:21] | Juski: | I said 'usually' |
[14:01:14] | Juski: | I was using 800x600 over svideo out without an interlaced modeline & for some reason (maybe the flicker filter) I didn't have to deinterlace & it looked as good as it would from a set top box or dvd player |
[14:02:23] | jduggan: | svideo out always looked really blurry to me |
[14:02:31] | jduggan: | on more than one TV |
[14:02:35] | jduggan: | CRT and LCD |
[14:03:05] | Juski: | the one thing that can really mess up interlaced recording is if you're not recording at a multiple of the tv standard's format. i.e. not recording at foo x 576 for PAL or foo x 288 |
[14:03:52] | Juski: | jduggan: looks fantastic here. not as good as VGA for sure, but damn good all the same. definitely as good as my panasonic RV-20 dvd player |
[14:04:13] | Dagmar: | I'm not using modelines at all. |
[14:04:30] | Dagmar: | I'm just using an nVidia card, 1024x768 output on the S-video port, and setting the proper things in xorg.conf |
[14:04:44] | Juski: | that's all I was doing too, AFAIK |
[14:04:59] | Juski: | only at 800x600 |
[14:05:57] | jduggan: | yea maybe i was goin too high a resolution |
[14:06:03] | jduggan: | Juski: what do you use now, VGA? |
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[14:17:23] | Dagmar: | I just went ahead and reported that guy on the sell.com site. No way does he have a bunch of 60Gb PS3's and Wii's for sale at 10% over retail. No fuckin' way |
[14:17:26] | Dagmar: | doh wrong channel |
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[14:28:55] | wireddd: | a ps3 seems like it would be a great platform for transcoding video if someone wrote a trancoder to take advantage of the dsps |
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[14:56:52] | kslater: | anyone know if mytharchive will take a 720p HD recording and make it work for a DVD export? |
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[16:20:52] | Plex: | have a linux question, but wonder if anyone here can help, as it manifests in mythtv. Sound stopped working one day out of nowhere. The only thing that plays now is dolby digital content, from DVDs etc. Sounds won't play in playback recordings or in mythvideo or in mythmusic. this is the only sound that works. Any ideas? Thanks! |
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[16:22:44] | Saviq: | nothing happens "out of nowhere"... |
[16:22:53] | Saviq: | something must've changed |
[16:26:58] | Plex: | sure |
[16:27:04] | Plex: | only I didn't do anything manually |
[16:27:15] | Plex: | but my analog audio is dead |
[16:27:23] | Plex: | not the digital, apparently |
[16:27:35] | juski: | maybe it's time to check your mixer settings then |
[16:27:43] | Plex: | in other words, I didn't change anything |
[16:27:49] | juski: | maybe it's time to check your mixer settings then |
[16:27:56] | Plex: | I have everything routed to SPDIF |
[16:28:04] | Plex: | handled by my amplifier |
[16:28:23] | juski: | and? |
[16:28:37] | Plex: | so mixer settings are turned off (in mythtv) |
[16:28:41] | juski: | so? |
[16:28:50] | Plex: | no sure what you're asking? |
[16:29:22] | juski: | so you maintain you never changed anything yet you can't be bothered to check the linux mixer settings juuust incase something changed accidentally |
[16:29:33] | Plex: | ah, yes, checked those |
[16:29:38] | Plex: | look good |
[16:30:20] | juski: | it's bound to be something simple |
[16:30:48] | juski: | xine stopped playing analogue audio for me a few days ago, or more than likely I forgot to check all my videos worked with audio |
[16:31:11] | juski: | check everything, and check again :) |
[16:31:44] | Plex: | yeah, I've been doing that, but don't really know what I'm lookingn for, I guess :-) |
[16:32:11] | Plex: | it just seems odd that only dolby comes through now |
[16:32:23] | juski: | first check that other programs can play audio |
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[16:33:16] | Plex: | they can't – which is why it's a linux issue – unless it's xine on a dolby digital signal (5.1, etc) |
[16:33:54] | juski: | so check alsamixer then |
[16:34:00] | juski: | and your alsa config |
[16:34:53] | riddlebox: | Saviq, you there? I got my mythfrontend on a seperate pc working just fine, well its a bit choppy but I think thats cause the wireless |
[16:35:18] | Plex: | yeah, I've looked at those |
[16:35:21] | Plex: | they look "ok" |
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[16:36:27] | Saviq: | riddlebox: definitely |
[16:36:35] | Saviq: | wireless is nooot the way to go |
[16:36:57] | riddlebox: | Saviq, well in an apartment, the landlord wont let me run cable, even though I am a phone tech...... |
[16:37:03] | juski: | yeh no ifs, no buts |
[16:37:09] | D-side: | i'm able to do HD over wireless. i'm amazed to be honest. |
[16:37:21] | juski: | there are ways to run cables neatly & unobtrusively |
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[16:37:53] | juski: | for fast, ultimately reliable connections you just can't beat cabled |
[16:38:40] | riddlebox: | juski, its not worth the trouble, trying to buy a house, and plus the router is in the living room and I would have to go around corners into another room |
[16:38:59] | juski: | so get better wireless then |
[16:39:33] | juski: | damn. I know now why the edit markers never line up in the OSD. you can't get them to align for love nor money! |
[16:39:38] | Smeven: | anyone know of a dish network receiver model that has a serial port in it? |
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[16:42:12] | riddlebox: | juski, its fine being a little choppy, all I will use it for is when the girlfriends little brother and sisters come over I can put them in there and put a show on, its cool I dont have to run coax or anything, and I get a decent picture |
[16:45:32] | jduggan: | graphics cards with both dvi and regular d-sub out.. are they generally dual monitor gfx cards or just one or the other? |
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[16:46:25] | mirak: | hi |
[16:46:58] | ** juski goes postal.. "I have searched google and this forum for a couple of hours now and I can't find the solution for this simple problem, where in my mythfrontend do I set the ipadress for my mythbackend?" ** | |
[16:47:13] | mirak: | does anyone have a logitech harmony 688 remote ? |
[16:47:20] | juski: | will nobody please think of the kittens? |
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[16:48:50] | nandor: | what would cause recordings in my recordings directory to not show up on the menu? |
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[16:56:44] | jduggan: | juski: any idea on my 'offtopic' question? |
[16:56:51] | jduggan: | :) |
[16:58:06] | jams: | generally dual monitor |
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[16:59:29] | jduggan: | hmm |
[16:59:37] | juski: | hi jams. you ever done any editing of osd.xml ? |
[17:00:01] | juski: | I can't get the markers to line up for love nor money :( |
[17:00:30] | juski: | I can move em, get one into line but the other won't shift no matter what horiz. position I put in for it |
[17:01:23] | jams: | well I started one, then got bored with the video editor stuff |
[17:01:25] | juski: | the markers also move when the aspect of the recording changes mid show! |
[17:01:44] | Dagmar: | You mean the cut point markers? |
[17:01:51] | Dagmar: | I mentioned that a couple weeks back, IIRC. |
[17:01:56] | Dagmar: | they're always boned |
[17:02:18] | Dagmar: | It *looks* like an offset problem, but I couldn't track down the relevant part of the code to fix it |
[17:02:21] | juski: | ach well. so I'll call it a day & say they're close enough (tm) |
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[17:05:21] | Ron-W: | hi all |
[17:06:32] | jams: | hi |
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[17:07:33] | juski: | I'll just tar this up & it's job done. blootube-osd :) |
[17:13:19] | D-side: | you people can't appreciate how much i don't wantto do this. |
[17:13:43] | juski: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ . . . enshot12.png and http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ . . . enshot13.png |
[17:13:53] | juski: | don't want to do what? |
[17:14:00] | D-side: | fresh gentoo install for the backend. |
[17:14:04] | D-side: | i've had it with ubuntu |
[17:14:08] | juski: | hahaha |
[17:14:23] | D-side: | yes juski i know, i owe you an apology. :) |
[17:14:25] | juski: | I've been tempted to do that with my frontend more than once, believe me |
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[17:14:41] | D-side: | hey, i like that screenshot. 13. |
[17:14:47] | nandor: | what would cause recordings in my recordings directory to not show up on the menu? |
[17:14:50] | juski: | what it does automagically it takes away the potency of the user |
[17:15:01] | D-side: | i like that very much. |
[17:15:04] | juski: | nandor: wrong group filter or group view |
[17:15:06] | GreyFoxx: | juski: looks nice |
[17:15:16] | D-side: | juski: when i finally have an hdtv, i'll use that. |
[17:15:24] | juski: | it works in 4:3 too ya know |
[17:15:33] | juski: | the osd theme I mean ;) |
[17:15:34] | D-side: | why no, i didn'tt. |
[17:15:48] | D-side: | thats a good point. that'd look good with mythcenter. |
[17:16:02] | juski: | a bag over the TV looks good with mythcenter IMHO |
[17:16:06] | D-side: | not that i'll know anything about that for the next few days. |
[17:16:20] | D-side: | apparently I just insulted your theme eh? :D |
[17:16:34] | juski: | fuck. I did it again. the other themes are nice, it's just that ... whoops. anyway |
[17:17:01] | juski: | naw we've all got different tastes, thank $deity :) |
[17:17:27] | juski: | jees if I was gonna be all like "use my theme or I'll cry" I might as well have given up ages ago |
[17:17:36] | nandor: | juski: under "All Programs" I had two episodes of futurama on there last night — now there is nothing but in my recordings directory i still see the mpg's (last night i was using mythfrontend on my laptop now im running it on the main box) not sure if that makes a difference |
[17:18:06] | juski: | nandor: were they live tv recordings? |
[17:18:15] | nandor: | they were scheduled recordings yes |
[17:18:42] | juski: | does mythweb show them? |
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[17:19:06] | nandor: | that is funny |
[17:19:15] | nandor: | the mythfrontend of this laptop shows them |
[17:19:19] | nandor: | the other box doesnt show them |
[17:19:29] | juski: | is the other box just a frontend? |
[17:19:39] | nandor: | this laptop is just a frontend |
[17:19:45] | nandor: | the other box is the mainbackend |
[17:19:55] | nandor: | and a frontend |
[17:20:00] | juski: | changed the hostname of the backend recently? |
[17:20:05] | nandor: | no |
[17:20:18] | juski: | it's a puzzle for sure then |
[17:20:22] | nandor: | :( |
[17:20:32] | juski: | does the laptop play said recordings? |
[17:20:37] | nandor: | where does the recording library get the notion of what it has available? |
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[17:20:51] | nandor: | yes it does |
[17:20:52] | juski: | nandor: the 'recorded' table |
[17:21:05] | juski: | both are using the same database I assume... |
[17:21:17] | nandor: | the laptop uses the db as root and the other box uses it as mythtv user |
[17:21:21] | nandor: | could that wonk it up? |
[17:21:33] | juski: | possibly |
[17:22:03] | juski: | you don't rahhhly want to allow root mysql connections over the network |
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[17:22:27] | nandor: | yah i know i just hadnt gotten around to giving mythtv the correct host restrictions |
[17:22:55] | juski: | so you'd best sort out your db affairs then :) |
[17:23:24] | Paladine: | juski there shouldn't be any problem allowing root connections to mysql over a network so long as the relevant security issues are resolved in the grant table |
[17:23:56] | juski: | although if anything I'd have thought that if it was a perms issue, mythfrontend, while running on the backend would squeal about it not being able to connect... unless certain tables aren't being read, but that's unlikely I think |
[17:23:58] | nandor: | juski: just changed the user |
[17:24:04] | nordle: | Hi, im using ALOT of disk space, like 110GB/150GB, but using the web interface there is only around 10 items apparently. So even though I tell it to delete something, it's not instant. Is this normal? (mythtv 0.20). |
[17:24:09] | Paladine: | specially since the majority of internal networks are in non addressable IP space |
[17:25:26] | juski: | nordle: maybe you've enabled gradual file deletions... which is a good move if you're using ext3 believe me |
[17:28:11] | nordle: | juski: I am using ext3, partially due to the resier stuff, but also because I can easily read the partition from windows too. looking at [recorded] I can see field [deletepending] set to 1 on many many recordings, so maybe this fits in. Could I perhaps tell it to hurry up :) |
[17:28:55] | juski: | wth is taking up so much space anyway? High def. recordings? |
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[17:29:55] | juski: | gonna take a break for a while.. bbl |
[17:31:28] | frankrizzo: | juski, I got a dvi cable |
[17:31:32] | frankrizzo: | its so wonderful |
[17:31:32] | nordle: | ok, bye, dont know why so much space, I've not changed any of the "default" recording settings. Theres around 70 recodings on the filesystem that I dont want to be there, that would take the space. |
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[17:35:01] | nandor: | okaokay both frontends are using the same db info but they are both different still :( |
[17:35:46] | Torg: | what do you mean they are differnt? |
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[17:40:19] | frankrizzo: | where are the themes stored? |
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[17:41:32] | Torg: | do you mean where are they intalled? |
[17:41:35] | frankrizzo: | yeah |
[17:42:09] | nandor: | Torg: i have two frontends, and the recorded shows on them both are different |
[17:42:17] | Torg: | did you compile myth or did you install it from a rpm or deb? |
[17:42:36] | nandor: | one box is FC packages the other is macos packages |
[17:42:56] | nandor: | im looking at the recorded table in the DB and it has both sets in there |
[17:42:59] | Torg: | actualy nandor I was asking frankrizzo that :) |
[17:43:02] | nandor: | ohhh |
[17:43:04] | nandor: | sorryz |
[17:43:14] | frankrizzo: | i used rpms |
[17:43:28] | Torg: | there in /usr/share/mythtv/themes |
[17:43:33] | frankrizzo: | thanks |
[17:44:12] | nandor: | is frontend going to query the db each time it starts up? |
[17:44:41] | Torg: | every time it starts, every time you watch something, every time you change a settin |
[17:44:49] | Torg: | it takes to it damn near constantly |
[17:45:24] | Torg: | the FE settings are in the database, the configs are in the database, the schedule is in the database, the recodrings are in the database, the recording settings are in the database |
[17:45:55] | Torg: | about the only thing not stored in the database is the db conectivity settings (well those are in there too but the FE used a flatfile) |
[17:46:00] | frankrizzo: | Torg, what about the database settings? |
[17:46:24] | Torg: | the database settings are in the database as well, but your FE used a file to connect to the DB |
[17:46:26] | frankrizzo: | just kidding... |
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[17:52:10] | nandor: | Torg: so why would one frontend show 3 futurama episodes and the other 4 other random recordings |
[17:52:34] | nandor: | mysql> select COUNT(*) from recorded; |
[17:52:34] | nandor: | +----------+ |
[17:52:34] | nandor: | | COUNT(*) | |
[17:52:34] | nandor: | +----------+ |
[17:52:34] | nandor: | | 7 | |
[17:52:39] | Torg: | can you connect to the database from each host and show the tables? |
[17:52:42] | nandor: | ^^ 3 on one frontend 4 on the other |
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[17:52:59] | Torg: | run a select * on the table and pastbin it |
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[17:53:59] | Torg: | you can also run the frontend with a "-v all" to give you the most debugging info you can get |
[17:54:16] | frankrizzo: | juski, your beta theme likes to take a while to show itself :-) |
[17:54:31] | nandor: | Torg: pastbin? |
[17:54:54] | Torg: | its in the topic, http://pastebin.ca |
[17:55:04] | Torg: | so you dont dump 7 lines of db to the channel |
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[17:56:00] | nandor: | kk sec |
[17:57:01] | nandor: | http://pastebin.ca/257710 |
[17:57:41] | Torg: | is myth.ntsj.com your backend? |
[17:57:45] | nandor: | yes |
[17:58:05] | Torg: | does both frontends connect to it by its fqdn? |
[17:58:09] | Torg: | err do |
[17:58:15] | nandor: | to the db? |
[17:58:19] | nandor: | they both connect by IP |
[17:58:25] | Torg: | yes to the db |
[17:58:35] | nandor: | hmm |
[17:58:36] | nandor: | acutally |
[17:58:44] | juski: | GreyFoxx: takes a while to show itself? what do you mean? |
[17:59:02] | Torg: | ok do both FEs reverse lookup the IP address to the FQDN? |
[17:59:12] | Torg: | juski that was frankrizzo not GreyFoxx :) |
[17:59:14] | juski: | whoops.. sorry frankrizzo .. whaddya mean? |
[17:59:43] | frankrizzo: | well, its sitting at the blue screen and freaking out |
[17:59:51] | frankrizzo: | the background of your theme |
[18:00:00] | juski: | works fine here (tm) |
[18:00:06] | frankrizzo: | after I went into a utility menu |
[18:00:18] | nandor: | Torg: they do now — no change |
[18:00:20] | frankrizzo: | hmmmmm |
[18:00:32] | frankrizzo: | the resolution is 1920x1080 |
[18:00:46] | juski: | frankrizzo: how much ram do you have? |
[18:00:51] | frankrizzo: | 1 gig |
[18:00:56] | juski: | how much free? |
[18:00:57] | juski: | ;) |
[18:00:58] | Torg: | ok nanddor go onto each FE and run mythfrontend into a logfile and see what its telling you about the "misisng" recordings |
[18:01:06] | frankrizzo: | um, cant tell right now |
[18:01:16] | frankrizzo: | the machine is freaking out |
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[18:01:25] | Torg: | juski frankrizzo cant tell you that, not ever hes using linux :P |
[18:01:44] | Torg: | ther eis no definitive way to tell in linux how much memory you have free |
[18:01:46] | juski: | frankrizzo: the beta theme has the biggest watermarks of all the themes. upscaled to 1920x1080 they'll take loads of ram. and when I say loads I mean LOADS |
[18:01:53] | Torg: | you cant discern real from virtual memory in a reliable way |
[18:02:03] | frankrizzo: | ahhh, what is the theme made for |
[18:02:09] | juski: | you can tell how much ram mythfrontend is using though |
[18:02:14] | juski: | frankrizzo: for me |
[18:02:14] | frankrizzo: | i am not familer with this watermark concept either |
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[18:02:33] | juski: | you know the piccies that change when you select different menu options? they're watermarks |
[18:02:39] | frankrizzo: | i know, but what resolution do you run it out? |
[18:02:46] | frankrizzo: | okay, i got it |
[18:02:51] | imperfect-: | total used free shared buffers cached |
[18:02:52] | imperfect-: | Mem: 196816 166116 30700 0 63480 17984 |
[18:02:52] | imperfect-: | -/+ buffers/cache: 84652 112164 |
[18:02:52] | imperfect-: | Swap: 393208 18248 374960 |
[18:02:53] | imperfect-: | What's that? |
[18:03:07] | juski: | 1280x720 on my dev box. 720x576 on my own frontend |
[18:03:36] | juski: | and no I'm not gonna redo the graphics :-P |
[18:03:42] | frankrizzo: | haha, im not asking |
[18:03:44] | nandor: | Torg: would i see that on the stdout of front end or just in logs? |
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[18:04:00] | nordle: | Does anyone have any links on transcoding through the system? Im looking at the docs on teh web, in the archive, the wiki and all the info I've seen is very limited, just stating there are default groups and thats it really, no info on how to actually tweak things. |
[18:04:02] | Torg: | nandor if you run it without redireting it to a log it will come out in the console |
[18:04:06] | frankrizzo: | should project grayhem run better? |
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[18:04:27] | juski: | yeah but that doesn't look anything like as nice |
[18:04:31] | Torg: | try "mythfrontend -v all > mythfronend.log 2>&1" |
[18:04:56] | nandor: | doing that now acutally hehe |
[18:05:57] | nandor: | look for missing? |
[18:06:31] | Torg: | look to see what its telling you when you go list the recordings, you should notice it taling to the database (specialy doing a select on the recordings table) |
[18:06:31] | frankrizzo: | hmm....a sauasge pizza would be good right now..... |
[18:07:20] | nandor: | only hits on "recorded" are select distinct from recordedl; |
[18:07:31] | Weezey: | I have two backends and one of them uses a different provider, is it possible for me to some how link the channels that are the same? Like I get channel CKVR on 219 on one backend and 21 on the other. It really doesn't matter that they're the same channel, but for scrolling through the massive guide, it would be nice to have a consolidated area which picks whichever input. |
[18:07:42] | frankrizzo: | so the question (perhaps rethorical) is now, should I try and change the resolution to make things work better? 1920x1080 seems to be the native resolution |
[18:08:36] | nandor: | 2006-11–25 10:04:46.789 write -> 8 21 QUERY_RECORDINGS Play |
[18:08:38] | Torg: | frankrizzo unless you bought that TV very recinetly I dount 1080 is your nativ resolution. |
[18:08:38] | nandor: | and that |
[18:09:12] | frankrizzo: | i bought it 30 days ago |
[18:10:09] | frankrizzo: | the user manual has all sorts of reoslutions that it supports, so I guess I dont really know which is the native resolution |
[18:10:12] | Torg: | nandor try using mysql from the fe's and see what each tell you. There is nothing other then the fqdn in your recordings table that looks strange |
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[18:10:38] | Torg: | frankrizzo is it doing 1080p or 1080i? |
[18:11:11] | frankrizzo: | it will do 1080i |
[18:11:25] | frankrizzo: | actually |
[18:11:31] | frankrizzo: | DVI1 will do 1080p |
[18:11:37] | frankrizzo: | which I have it hooked up to |
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[18:12:02] | juski: | what's its native res. though hmm? |
[18:12:16] | frankrizzo: | I dont know how to tell because it lists a whole bunch |
[18:12:21] | frankrizzo: | of resolutions that it supports |
[18:12:54] | Torg: | native res revers to the fixed pixel display your display can do, it depednds on display acualy |
[18:13:01] | frankrizzo: | I would assume the highest it supports would be the native one, but I am not basing that on anything |
[18:13:02] | Torg: | its quite differnt from max res tho |
[18:13:16] | Torg: | no its usualy the highest non interlaced res |
[18:13:16] | juski: | ever heard of downscaling? ;) |
[18:13:23] | frankrizzo: | heard of it.... |
[18:13:47] | Torg: | a display will do larger reses by upscaling adn lower by downscaling |
[18:14:45] | frankrizzo: | hmmm. Well the tv is 37 inches hdtv |
[18:15:26] | juski: | Torg: I think it's the other way around tbh |
[18:15:30] | Torg: | the native res has nothing to do with the screensize, it is in fac teh size of the microdisplay you are projecting/converting, or showing |
[18:15:46] | Torg: | oops yes juski your right :) |
[18:15:54] | juski: | upscaling to convert lower reses to the native res and conversely downscaling to fit bigger reses onscreen |
[18:16:49] | frankrizzo: | ok, lets try another resolution |
[18:17:04] | Torg: | my native res is 720p but I usew my display in 1080i. The differnce, well noticeable, is not enough to justify the conversion of the 1080i bcast I get and the picture quailty is still quite acceptable |
[18:18:48] | frankrizzo: | hmm...it appears blurry at 1280x768 at 720p |
[18:19:24] | frankrizzo: | it looks really good |
[18:19:31] | frankrizzo: | but a little less sharp |
[18:20:15] | frankrizzo: | so I changed my resolution to 1280x768, the beta theme should run pretty well shouldnt it? |
[18:21:07] | nandor: | Torg: so the frontend that just has futurama, i can see it getting returns for "most haunted" in the logs not sure why its tossing them |
[18:22:03] | nandor: | ill have to get back to this later — thanks for your help |
[18:22:03] | frankrizzo: | brb |
[18:22:20] | Torg: | nandor it shouldnt, it should still tell you what was recorded. |
[18:22:43] | Torg: | had the hostname been differnt I could see where the FEs could get confused |
[18:22:54] | Torg: | but since they are all the same I dont know |
[18:23:37] | imperfect-: | |
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[18:27:09] | Torg: | juski I went and looked up upscaling vs downscaling. There actualy called expansion and compression. You upscale from your native to what is shown. So your display upscales (exapands) to 1080 from a native 720 |
[18:28:53] | Torg: | so waht I supose is the lack of detail in my 1080i is less from the fact its interlaced then the fact its been upscaled. Still though I dont care |
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[18:29:39] | nordle: | mythtfrontend setup, changing transcoding profiles, it keeps setting the audio to 32100 with a volume of 90. Seems like a bug? |
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[18:31:40] | nordle: | brb |
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[18:38:19] | ** juski hits the theme with a big hammer ** | |
[18:39:01] | Torg: | juski where is the download for the theme |
[18:39:38] | juski: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/comingsoon/ |
[18:40:37] | Torg: | beta1.1? |
[18:41:11] | juski: | yup |
[18:41:20] | juski: | beta1.2 might be out later |
[18:42:18] | Torg: | ill load it up afer I eat, thanks |
[18:42:46] | juski: | just tweaking the OSD 'watch recordings' screen atm |
[18:43:18] | juski: | couple more tweaks after that & I think it might be done. I might dump music-ui.xml down the toilet actually. I hardly ever use mythmusic |
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[18:49:36] | ShiftyPowers: | anyone around that can try and help me with some DVB problems? |
[18:50:04] | ShiftyPowers: | or willing to help me :) |
[18:54:47] | juski: | some DVB problems. wow, that's specific |
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[18:58:16] | juski: | oo you made a forum post & it seems you've done the groundwork, ShiftyPowers :) |
[18:59:11] | ShiftyPowers: | yeah |
[18:59:25] | ShiftyPowers: | yeah somewhat groundwork |
[18:59:30] | ShiftyPowers: | it seems like i'm almost there |
[18:59:41] | ShiftyPowers: | i know the card works and all |
[18:59:51] | ShiftyPowers: | but it's just integrating into MythTV that doesn't quite work |
[19:00:26] | D-side: | sighh. |
[19:00:33] | juski: | did you try scanning for channels in mythtv-setup's channel editor? |
[19:00:46] | D-side: | maybe i'll say fuck it and not bother configuring X. |
[19:00:52] | D-side: | just use vnc. :D |
[19:01:28] | ShiftyPowers: | i didn't scan in the channel editor |
[19:01:36] | ShiftyPowers: | i scanned in the input selection |
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[19:07:11] | juski: | well you scanned anyway |
[19:07:15] | juski: | did that find any channels? |
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[19:10:36] | ShiftyPowers: | yes it found channels |
[19:10:44] | ShiftyPowers: | and seem to be the right ones |
[19:15:38] | D-side: | hrm. any gentoo users know if theres anything not done by portage to use firewire? anything need to put in manually? |
[19:15:57] | D-side: | now that i look at the package d/l list, i'm thinking no. |
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[19:22:34] | Torg: | juski the only "slowness" I can see to the theme is when its scaling it on first load, switching between items on easch screen (there is a noticable but not apreciative lag time) and some lag on selection of a item. All in all however the visuals are much nicer. |
[19:23:10] | juski: | some lag? seems instant on my 800mhz box at 1280x720 |
[19:23:32] | Torg: | I dont know if its as much myth tho as it is my X server |
[19:23:48] | Torg: | it ran the cpu for mythfrontend to 100% for a bit when it laoded, but it taperd off |
[19:23:54] | Torg: | its CPU bound tho, not memory |
[19:24:27] | Torg: | I dont have emprical dta on how much the lag is, its just that I notice some lag where I did not before |
[19:24:36] | Torg: | its simply notricable not detrimental |
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[19:26:26] | Torg: | and this is on a 3.06Ghz dual core, with 4G of ram running at 1920x1080i |
[19:26:29] | juski: | well, it aint noticable here |
[19:26:33] | juski: | ;) |
[19:26:56] | Torg: | but like I said I think its more the X server then myth |
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[19:34:59] | juski: | another box ticked off now :) |
[19:35:09] | juski: | and it's 7.30pm |
[19:35:11] | juski: | sheesh |
[19:35:23] | ShiftyPowers: | juski, this is killing me bud :) |
[19:35:34] | ShiftyPowers: | google ain't powerful enough to solve me issue |
[19:36:08] | juski: | tried the wiki? on how to set up ATSC channels & zap2it together? |
[19:36:56] | juski: | I expect that the error you get is caused by channels which don't have DVB parameters in the database – channels which mythfilldatabase inserted when it grabbed your zap2it info |
[19:37:10] | Servo888: | congrats on .20. Major leap from .19.1... Everything feels smooth, channel surfing, and such. |
[19:37:30] | juski: | yay some praise for the developers for a change! |
[19:37:39] | Torg: | what error are you getting? |
[19:37:59] | Torg: | there is an issue with channels defeined in DD and what is bcast by the provicer (at least in my area) |
[19:38:11] | Torg: | it would not suprise me a bit if it happend elsewhere |
[19:39:16] | ShiftyPowers: | where is the wikie with ATSC and zap2it? |
[19:39:29] | Torg: | I dont know it actually exists |
[19:40:00] | Torg: | let me guess when you scan you get one set of channels that DD dosnt have data for, and when you look at DD it has those chanels defined |
[19:40:21] | juski: | users mailing list would be a good place to look too, and it looks like Torg here knows what the deal is :) |
[19:42:08] | ShiftyPowers: | DD? |
[19:42:15] | ShiftyPowers: | which one is DD? |
[19:42:36] | Torg: | the issue is the channels bradcast there ID's, in one example my local PBS station says it is "KERA-HD·" while the DD listings (zap2it) calls it "KERA-HD" (notice its missing a char). So my guide had two cahnels one with a few def that had no duide data, one for a channel with gide data that had no freq def |
[19:42:41] | Torg: | DD is the owner of zap2it |
[19:42:47] | Torg: | Data Direct |
[19:42:55] | ShiftyPowers: | ah gotcha |
[19:42:59] | ShiftyPowers: | do I need zap2it? |
[19:43:02] | ShiftyPowers: | to get it to work? |
[19:43:03] | Torg: | yes |
[19:43:05] | ShiftyPowers: | oh |
[19:43:07] | ShiftyPowers: | ok |
[19:43:10] | Torg: | unless you want to have a 2–3 days guide ala EIT |
[19:43:16] | ShiftyPowers: | gotcha |
[19:43:26] | ShiftyPowers: | so you've seen this issue where it's just a black screen on livetv? |
[19:43:30] | GreyFoxx: | Actuall, tribune media services (tms) owns zap2it, and data direct is the name of their xml listings service I believe |
[19:43:41] | Torg: | ok GreyFoxx somethibng liek that :) |
[19:43:48] | ShiftyPowers: | what happens exactly is I've set up the capture card as DVB |
[19:43:56] | ShiftyPowers: | it works if I use azap and stream from mplayer |
[19:44:04] | ShiftyPowers: | i've tried that part so I know the hardware works |
[19:44:14] | Torg: | the black screen on live tv, if its realted to this isssue, is cased my a channel you have with guide data that has no tuning peramitors (becase you were given it via zap2it) |
[19:44:19] | ShiftyPowers: | i've then set up a data source as Zap2It with my area code and broadcast |
[19:44:35] | ShiftyPowers: | sounds like it might be it |
[19:44:36] | Torg: | azap works by building a chanel guide ala a scaner, so of couse it works |
[19:44:48] | ShiftyPowers: | any idea how to reconcile the zap2it data to what mythtv channel scanner comes out with? |
[19:44:51] | Torg: | do you have mythweb working? |
[19:44:58] | Torg: | yes, I do mine by hand |
[19:45:11] | ShiftyPowers: | I didn't install mythweb yet |
[19:45:30] | Torg: | mythweb is the easiest way to edit the channels by far, id suggest you get it working |
[19:46:03] | ShiftyPowers: | so once i get it installed what do I need to do to edit the channels and reconcile scan vs zap2it? |
[19:47:43] | Torg: | what you are going to do is use the scanner in myth-setup to scan your ATSC. It will add channels it found, now go into yoru ZAP2IT and make a lineup with the channels you want. Next do a mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates. Fianly go into mythweb, transocde the xmltvids from what DD gave yo onto what you scanned from ATSC. Then delete the chanels that you dont want (like the old DD ones you copied the ids from) |
[19:48:09] | Torg: | whats left is a working set of tuanble tv statiosn that reflect eh proper xmltvids so DD can update the cahennsl |
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[19:48:31] | ShiftyPowers: | hmm, sounds like a plan |
[19:48:32] | Torg: | I also ass updates by EIT becae DD isnt exactly 100% acuarate, but thats another issue |
[19:48:36] | ShiftyPowers: | i'm going to try and install mythweb right now |
[19:48:54] | ShiftyPowers: | well accuracy is another issue :) |
[19:49:04] | ShiftyPowers: | i'll take a working channel right now as a start |
[19:49:18] | Torg: | you could also do this gia update and delete sql statments and mysql at the command line |
[19:49:21] | ShiftyPowers: | so in the video sources i should have DD set to my zip code and broadcast right? |
[19:49:33] | Torg: | but I would think learning sql would be a bit harder then simply making mythweb work :) |
[19:50:02] | Torg: | yes go to labs.zap2it.com. create a bcast lineup and checkbox only those channels you can actualy get/actually want |
[19:50:25] | ShiftyPowers: | ok that's easy enough |
[19:50:34] | ShiftyPowers: | then mythfilldatabase and then transcode eh? |
[19:50:40] | ShiftyPowers: | what is involved in transcode? |
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[19:51:00] | Torg: | you dont trancode them sorry a mistake on my part |
[19:51:48] | Torg: | you will have two rows of data, one has an xmltv id (it came from DD) the other will have the channel def (it came from the scanner). You can copy the xmltvid form the DD to the scanned or copy the fields for the tuning params (its easier to simply copy teh xmltvid) |
[19:52:14] | ShiftyPowers: | gotcha |
[19:52:16] | Torg: | I cut and paste the xmltvids to track what ive edited and what I havnt, its really easy |
[19:52:25] | ShiftyPowers: | so then whenever DD updates it will be able to update the channels |
[19:52:31] | ShiftyPowers: | cool |
[19:52:45] | Torg: | DD updates simply by xmltvid, yes it works |
[19:52:46] | ShiftyPowers: | and when mythtv tunes something it goes by the DD or hte scanned channels? |
[19:53:00] | ShiftyPowers: | because if it's by DD that makes sense why it's a black screen |
[19:53:14] | juski: | depends what your starting channel is set to |
[19:53:16] | Torg: | when myth tunes something it used the pids and tuning params, not the DD stuff (well the scheuduler does) |
[19:53:24] | juski: | and the last one it tuned to ;) |
[19:53:40] | Torg: | no juski its becase DD sont provice pids, so myth does not know how to tune the channel |
[19:54:03] | ShiftyPowers: | so how do I know mythtv is not going by the channel scan parameters? |
[19:54:12] | Torg: | you essentially have to merge the two defs together, thats all |
[19:54:19] | ShiftyPowers: | i mean if I scanned in the channel scanner should it not be able to tune the channel even without guide data? |
[19:54:27] | ShiftyPowers: | yeah merge makes intuitive sense |
[19:54:31] | Torg: | mythtv *IS* going by the chanenl scan parms, thats the issue |
[19:54:32] | ShiftyPowers: | hopefully that's the issue |
[19:54:37] | ShiftyPowers: | ah |
[19:54:39] | ShiftyPowers: | gotcha |
[19:54:43] | ShiftyPowers: | Torg, thanks so much man |
[19:54:53] | ShiftyPowers: | even if this doesn't work at least i've learned a little more on mythtv |
[19:54:55] | ShiftyPowers: | :) |
[19:54:55] | Torg: | hopefully it helps, but your welcome :) |
[19:55:05] | ShiftyPowers: | i'll try it right now and see |
[19:55:09] | ShiftyPowers: | trying to get mythweb installed |
[19:55:17] | ShiftyPowers: | any good wikis on that for svn mythweb? |
[19:56:30] | Torg: | probably but if you understand how a web server works, its not that diffcult |
[19:57:00] | ShiftyPowers: | well i've copied the mythweb files to my web server |
[19:57:08] | ShiftyPowers: | just trying to get all the permissions set and the php to work |
[19:57:11] | ShiftyPowers: | php works on my server |
[19:57:16] | ShiftyPowers: | since phpmyadmin works |
[19:57:48] | Torg: | your going to copy the mythweb to your root web tree somwhere (/var/www is my root web so I copy it there). Chane the ownership so the web server can read it, do the same the icons (for that matter you can simpky copy them and redeine it), edit the .htaccess file (its in the mythweb dir) and use a webbroswer to access it |
[19:58:07] | juski: | tarry tarry night... |
[19:58:16] | Torg: | beta1.2? |
[19:58:31] | juski: | yeh. it'll take a wee while to upload though |
[19:58:46] | Torg: | btw juski the mythphone disply overlaps the text a bit, not that I care tho I dont use mythphone |
[19:58:59] | juski: | there's no phone-ui.xml so don't blame me :) |
[19:59:10] | juski: | E_SEP ! |
[19:59:24] | Torg: | hey if I was testing it I at least want to tell you if I found somethig wrong :P |
[19:59:28] | juski: | I don't theme screens I don't use ;) |
[19:59:33] | Torg: | fix it or dont I dont care ether way :P |
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[19:59:41] | ShiftyPowers: | torg, the ownership should be www-data right? |
[19:59:45] | juski: | I can't fix it. I didn't theme it :) |
[19:59:56] | Torg: | if your web browser runs as www-data yes (it probbly does) |
[20:00:07] | Torg: | then the fix is to theme it :P |
[20:00:12] | juski: | pleh |
[20:00:13] | juski: | no way |
[20:00:35] | juski: | that'd mean it'd get even bigger for one thing |
[20:00:35] | Torg: | Id rather you spend time on the MC360 port tho :P |
[20:00:55] | juski: | 4:3 version of this would come next |
[20:02:21] | Torg: | why do you have a 4:3 TV? |
[20:02:23] | juski: | and my knowledge of qt goes as far as one function I wrote almost a year ago |
[20:02:46] | juski: | I don't have a 4:3 TV |
[20:02:52] | juski: | but I have a 4:3 monitor |
[20:02:52] | Torg: | then why convert it :P |
[20:03:19] | juski: | because people I respect would like one – users ;) |
[20:03:49] | Torg: | well if your not goint to theme mythphone why are you going to port to 4:3 |
[20:04:13] | Torg: | im just using your own argument agsint you :P |
[20:04:16] | juski: | nobody cares about mythphone? |
[20:04:47] | Torg: | you said you dont care about mythphone "[13:59] <juski> I don't theme screens I don't use ;)" |
[20:05:24] | juski: | it's not the most well-used of the plugins either |
[20:05:34] | juski: | anyway I'm not arguing. it's my perogative :-P |
[20:05:41] | Torg: | juski im just yanking your chain |
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[20:06:52] | solemnwarning: | Are there any distros with mythtv already configured and setup so you don't have to go through the nightmare of setting up a DVR box? |
[20:07:16] | Torg: | solemnwarning what nightmare, Ill assume you want something like knoppmyth |
[20:07:33] | solemnwarning: | knoppmyth = livecd? |
[20:07:38] | juski: | nope |
[20:07:45] | juski: | not for a backend anyway |
[20:07:47] | Torg: | yes also = preset myth |
[20:07:53] | juski: | and you kinda need a backend |
[20:07:54] | Torg: | livecd = frontend |
[20:07:55] | solemnwarning: | Does it install and just work? |
[20:08:04] | ** juski coughs very loudly ** | |
[20:08:06] | Torg: | *if* you have compatable hardwre, yes |
[20:08:11] | juski: | _allegedly_ |
[20:08:15] | juski: | ymmv |
[20:08:29] | solemnwarning: | C-media PCI sound card, compro DVB-T300 card |
[20:08:46] | Torg: | juski other then not having firmware for my dvb cards, knopmyth works fine (its just old) |
[20:09:00] | juski: | solemnwarning: it's still based on 0.19 so DVB scanning might not work for you (and other stuff) |
[20:09:30] | juski: | md5sums.txt uploaded.. now the big fat tarball |
[20:09:44] | Torg: | solemnwarning there are more then enogh pages on how to create you own myth boxes baed upon RH and debian flavors |
[20:09:51] | Torg: | chose a distro you want and go for it |
[20:10:04] | solemnwarning: | I've not actually tried myth yet as I've never even gotten it to start |
[20:10:13] | solemnwarning: | Only tried freevo so far |
[20:10:15] | juski: | it's hardly a nightmare to setup anyway |
[20:10:28] | solemnwarning: | btw, why does myth need MySQL? |
[20:10:36] | solemnwarning: | All of the myth deps seem overkill |
[20:10:37] | juski: | because it does |
[20:10:38] | Torg: | well if you have setup freevo you can get myth to work just fine |
[20:10:48] | juski: | solemnwarning: you don't like it, don't use it :-P |
[20:10:52] | solemnwarning: | I can't get freevo working either |
[20:11:03] | Torg: | it contains allot of data, and I mean allot, to put it into flatfiles would be deterimental to performance |
[20:11:17] | juski: | and it'd be much harder to make it all work over a network |
[20:11:18] | solemnwarning: | What about sqlite? |
[20:11:19] | xris: | solemnwarning: they'll eventually embed mysql. |
[20:11:32] | xris: | solemnwarning: sqlite would take 5–10 minutes to run some of the scheduling queries. |
[20:11:32] | Torg: | mysql contains al the settings, al the reocrdings, al the chedules, all the matches, all the information |
[20:11:59] | juski: | all the recorded programs' seek tables to let you edit, flag commercials and seek very accurately |
[20:12:21] | Torg: | about the only thing I could say would improve performance would be to go to postgrss but since mysql works fine I dont see any reason to fix what aint broke |
[20:12:30] | juski: | exactly |
[20:12:46] | juski: | it's not exactly a huge drain on HDD space or resources |
[20:12:53] | ShiftyPowers: | man torg can't get mythweb installed from svn, i'm more of a newbie than i thought |
[20:13:15] | Torg: | ShiftyPowers just copy the directy in its entierty to the root web |
[20:13:19] | Torg: | what are you stuck on? |
[20:13:25] | ShiftyPowers: | i did that |
[20:13:28] | juski: | 75% :) |
[20:13:34] | ShiftyPowers: | and the directory is /var/www/mythweb |
[20:13:39] | juski: | xris: wanna try a new OSD ? |
[20:13:45] | ShiftyPowers: | with a mythweb.php as the main file in that dir |
[20:13:46] | xris: | juski: love to |
[20:13:49] | GreyFoxx: | That reminds me, |
[20:13:55] | ShiftyPowers: | after that going to 192.168.1.101/mythweb |
[20:14:00] | ** GreyFoxx launches his vmware environment to work on the embedded mysql stuff again ** | |
[20:14:11] | ShiftyPowers: | shows the directory listing and clicking on mythweb.php gives a database error |
[20:14:12] | xris: | ShiftyPowers: um, should just have to check it out and change perms on the data dir |
[20:14:23] | xris: | ShiftyPowers: oh, first install? read the readme |
[20:14:32] | xris: | you need to config apache |
[20:14:35] | ShiftyPowers: | ah yess |
[20:14:39] | ShiftyPowers: | the old READMEN |
[20:14:41] | juski: | 8e86ff11ef2b29a4bc894609c5f55254 /media/blootube-wide_beta1.2.tar.bz2 |
[20:14:41] | ShiftyPowers: | RTFM |
[20:14:42] | ShiftyPowers: | sorry |
[20:14:42] | Torg: | its http://192.168.1.101/mythweb/ not http://192.168.1.101/mythweb you cant rewrite a rewrite rule twice |
[20:15:03] | xris: | juski: url, not md5. ;) |
[20:15:09] | juski: | bleh |
[20:15:11] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
[20:15:14] | juski: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ . . . -osd.tar.bz2 |
[20:15:32] | juski: | I need to give my webshite some love soon |
[20:15:55] | juski: | the hand-tweaked html will have to go byebyes |
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[20:16:43] | ShiftyPowers: | how do I change the ownership to www-data? sudo chown www-data /var/www/mythweb right? |
[20:16:52] | xris: | ShiftyPowers: -R |
[20:16:55] | xris: | for recursive |
[20:16:57] | Torg: | add -R |
[20:16:58] | ShiftyPowers: | cool |
[20:17:06] | xris: | though you only need to change the ownership on data/. |
[20:17:15] | juski: | I'm gonna stop asking someone's opinion. he's such a blimmin critic's critic |
[20:17:26] | rogue780: | can someone help me get svideo out working with my radeon 7000 under ubuntu? |
[20:17:31] | Torg: | more specifically do a sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/mythweb |
[20:19:05] | xris: | rogue780: good luck with that. ATI and linux don't get along so well. |
[20:19:15] | xris: | rogue780: you definitely need the proprietary drivers, though |
[20:19:25] | Torg: | xris my backend works with ATI just fine :P |
[20:19:40] | rogue780: | the proprietary drivers and the 7000 are no-go |
[20:20:01] | xris: | juski: where the heck is the osd theme config? |
[20:20:03] | ShiftyPowers: | the README says to add the override to a conf.d file /etc/httpd/conf.d, anyone know where that dir is in ubuntu with apache2? |
[20:20:05] | rogue780: | xris, they only support back as far as the 90xx series |
[20:20:10] | rogue780: | I'm using the opensource drivers |
[20:20:31] | xris: | rogue780: I don't know if you can. |
[20:20:35] | Torg: | I believe its /etc/apache2 |
[20:20:40] | xris: | Torg: not saying it's impossible, just that it's a pain in the a$$ |
[20:21:02] | juski: | xris: ? |
[20:21:08] | Torg: | I think its more imposible, since I dont run X on my backend specifly becase its a 9200 |
[20:21:19] | rogue780: | dagnabit. guess I'll have to go buy another fx5200 |
[20:21:21] | juski: | xris: oh to choose the OSD theme? tv playback on about the 25th page |
[20:21:26] | Torg: | it runs fine in console mode, which is all I care about anyway |
[20:21:37] | xris: | damn, finally found it |
[20:21:40] | xris: | thx |
[20:22:44] | juski: | the edit graphics don't work as well as I'd like, but I tried every which way to get em to fit properly & no dice |
[20:22:47] | ShiftyPowers: | where are the apache2 modules enabled in ubuntu? anyone know? |
[20:23:11] | Torg: | in httpd.conf I belive |
[20:23:24] | ShiftyPowers: | that files is mostly empty in a default install then? |
[20:23:36] | ShiftyPowers: | and i can just put in there mod_env etc? |
[20:23:38] | ShiftyPowers: | what's the syntax? |
[20:23:49] | juski: | ShiftyPowers: /etc/apache2/modules_enabled |
[20:23:53] | Torg: | is there a modules.conf file? |
[20:24:00] | xris: | juski: looks really nice. only problem I see off the bat is one that every osd theme but default has, which is the cutpoint markers are never displayed on the cutpoints themselves. |
[20:24:01] | juski: | whoops mods_enabled |
[20:24:10] | ShiftyPowers: | gotchas |
[20:24:12] | juski: | xris: heh |
[20:24:12] | ShiftyPowers: | gracias |
[20:24:21] | xris: | something like: ======]===--------- insread of =====]------- |
[20:24:33] | Torg: | sorry ShiftyPowers I use apache 1 not 2 |
[20:24:50] | juski: | xris: good job we go off the video not the markers then ;) |
[20:25:01] | xris: | juski: yes, but it makes editing a pain |
[20:25:14] | xris: | enough of a pain that I've stuck with default even though I think its ugly |
[20:25:17] | juski: | in the land of many commercials I bet it does |
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[20:25:36] | juski: | so the default OSD edit stuff is okay? |
[20:25:38] | juski: | hmmmm |
[20:26:00] | juski: | I wonder if this is a case of theme begat wrong config stuff, and further themes begat it |
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[20:26:10] | ShiftyPowers: | Torg, in that directory mods-enabled there are a bunch of files |
[20:26:20] | ShiftyPowers: | where could i enable mod_env |
[20:26:23] | ShiftyPowers: | for example? |
[20:26:27] | ShiftyPowers: | just trying to follow the readme |
[20:27:15] | xris: | juski: maybe. |
[20:27:32] | xris: | but yeah, default is the only one I've ever used that looks right. even blueosd is wrong for me |
[20:27:44] | juski: | I'll have a look at that now |
[20:28:08] | juski: | actually I'll take a peek tomorrow or just later. need foodles |
[20:28:13] | xris: | for some reason, I got it into my head that it's an X dpi issue, since I've heard that the X dpi setting affects font sizes in the guides, etc. |
[20:28:32] | juski: | hrm I dunno though |
[20:28:36] | juski: | I'll get to the bottom of it |
[20:29:01] | xris: | does it happen for you? |
[20:29:31] | D-side: | mythtv compile is going. woot. |
[20:30:18] | Torg: | LoadModule env_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_env.so is how apache 1 does it, im not sure how apache2 does |
[20:31:00] | Torg: | juski the osd text is somewhat oversized and can extend lower then the OSD, is that intentional? |
[20:32:56] | ShiftyPowers: | figured it out |
[20:33:02] | ShiftyPowers: | they are already loaded into apache2 default install |
[20:34:11] | ShiftyPowers: | cool Mythweb works |
[20:34:35] | Torg: | ok ShiftyPowers now you shoudl be able to edit the channels |
[20:35:12] | ShiftyPowers: | well i went into the channel listing and most have an xmltid already |
[20:35:31] | ShiftyPowers: | a lot of htem are repeated, like 3 times for a certain channel |
[20:35:31] | Torg: | is that from what DD put there or from what you scanned? |
[20:35:45] | Torg: | and if you want a guide for it then it MUST have an xmltvid |
[20:35:58] | Torg: | do you have any recorded shows? |
[20:36:31] | ShiftyPowers: | no, no recorded shows |
[20:36:34] | ShiftyPowers: | fresh install of myth |
[20:36:42] | ShiftyPowers: | i can rescan and see what happens |
[20:36:46] | ShiftyPowers: | this is from DD |
[20:36:47] | ShiftyPowers: | i guess |
[20:36:50] | Torg: | ok then run mythtv-setup and go into the channel defs |
[20:36:50] | ShiftyPowers: | yeah it is |
[20:36:54] | ShiftyPowers: | k |
[20:36:59] | ShiftyPowers: | into the channel editor right |
[20:37:01] | Torg: | delete each and every channel myth knows about, then scan for new ones |
[20:37:05] | ShiftyPowers: | k |
[20:37:07] | ShiftyPowers: | will do |
[20:37:11] | ShiftyPowers: | i'll report back |
[20:37:11] | Torg: | remmebr to start and stop the backend |
[20:37:17] | ShiftyPowers: | yep |
[20:37:22] | Torg: | after that go look at the channel lineup in mythweb |
[20:37:34] | Torg: | edit out any you dont want |
[20:38:27] | Torg: | then do a mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates |
[20:38:51] | Torg: | then go back into mytweb and see what was added, then merge the records and what is left should be a working set of channels |
[20:41:10] | ShiftyPowers: | btw Torg, have you seen this error regarding TVRec and digital signal monitoring? |
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[20:41:17] | ShiftyPowers: | it's an error on the mythbackend |
[20:41:35] | Torg: | what is the error? |
[20:41:43] | ShiftyPowers: | hold on, let me find it |
[20:41:48] | ShiftyPowers: | i posted it in the mythtalk forum |
[20:41:50] | ShiftyPowers: | hold on |
[20:42:26] | Torg: | just give me a link to the post |
[20:42:44] | ShiftyPowers: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4209 |
[20:43:32] | Torg: | yes it means it couldnt tune what you told it to |
[20:46:07] | ShiftyPowers: | ok, doing mythfilldatabase now |
[20:46:17] | ShiftyPowers: | let's see what happens |
[20:46:30] | ShiftyPowers: | the scan didn't have any xmltid's like you predicted |
[20:47:31] | ShiftyPowers: | well it filled in the xmltvid's |
[20:47:37] | ShiftyPowers: | but there aren't many that are blank |
[20:47:43] | Torg: | hehe there is no way for a scan to know what DD thought it should be |
[20:48:10] | ShiftyPowers: | weird |
[20:48:30] | ShiftyPowers: | but yeah, in mythweb now there are a lot of channels with most of them haveing 3 rows |
[20:48:34] | ShiftyPowers: | which are identical |
[20:48:48] | Torg: | thats from DD, the new ones have xmltvid ill bet |
[20:49:01] | ShiftyPowers: | yes |
[20:49:14] | Torg: | are there more channels then what you scanned? |
[20:49:14] | ShiftyPowers: | but from my old ones only 4 remain |
[20:49:17] | ShiftyPowers: | there used to be more |
[20:49:40] | Torg: | DD will inject any channel you have cheked at zap2it, wether you can see it or not |
[20:49:49] | Torg: | your scan should have told you what you can recive |
[20:49:55] | Torg: | trust what you scanned, not what DD told you |
[20:50:03] | Torg: | just use the DD data to update the stuff you scanned |
[20:50:06] | ShiftyPowers: | yeah but the channels i scanned are no longer there |
[20:50:22] | ShiftyPowers: | unless there is another page i'm not seeing |
[20:50:34] | Torg: | no try scanning them in again |
[20:50:43] | ShiftyPowers: | ah |
[20:50:44] | ShiftyPowers: | ok |
[20:50:47] | Torg: | the do-updates may have erased the old ones |
[20:51:05] | Torg: | I havnt done this in a while so I may have given you the steps out of order |
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[20:51:08] | ShiftyPowers: | yes |
[20:51:13] | ShiftyPowers: | the --help says that i twould erase them |
[20:51:16] | ShiftyPowers: | makes sense |
[20:51:48] | ShiftyPowers: | doing hte rescan |
[20:51:53] | ShiftyPowers: | now i should hopefully have duplicates |
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[20:55:39] | ShiftyPowers: | i just selected all channels in my zap2it |
[20:55:42] | ShiftyPowers: | i can delete them after |
[20:55:44] | ShiftyPowers: | no? |
[20:55:50] | ShiftyPowers: | it only had a few selected for some reason |
[20:55:54] | ShiftyPowers: | and not hte ones i wanted |
[20:56:11] | Torg: | select only the ones you want, do not slect extras |
[20:56:18] | Torg: | its how you got all those extra chanels |
[20:56:24] | ShiftyPowers: | ah |
[20:56:33] | ShiftyPowers: | ok, i'm just lazy, i'll dothat now |
[20:56:39] | Torg: | if you cant scan them they for all intent do not exist |
[20:56:54] | ShiftyPowers: | is antennaweb the best way of knowing what the KTVSFxxx are? |
[20:56:54] | Torg: | there is nothing you can do short of a differnt antenna (posibly) to get those stations |
[20:57:06] | ShiftyPowers: | which network etc? |
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[20:57:08] | Torg: | antennaweb is the best way, and antennaweb sucks |
[20:57:13] | ShiftyPowers: | haha |
[20:57:23] | Torg: | antennaweb does not know the earth is not flat |
[20:57:41] | Torg: | it has no idea of terrain and often will tell you that youc an recive a channel you can not |
[20:57:56] | Torg: | ESP if your stations use directional antenna like mine do |
[20:58:11] | Torg: | there are 6 that bcast in the opposite direction |
[20:59:01] | Torg: | Veo la TV en ingles, no espanol |
[20:59:09] | Torg: | so I dont care about the 6 I cant get :P |
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[20:59:38] | ShiftyPowers: | haha makes sense |
[20:59:49] | ShiftyPowers: | i want the hd channels are those the "DT" channels in zap2it |
[21:00:03] | ShiftyPowers: | or should i just pick the main ones? |
[21:00:04] | Torg: | ones with DT and HD are ATSC yes |
[21:00:14] | Torg: | ones with SD are ATSC stnd def usualy |
[21:00:29] | Torg: | do not pick the main ones unless your tuner can tunr NTSC and ATSC |
[21:00:53] | Torg: | what you will find is one channel, with more then one program id, called pids |
[21:01:03] | Torg: | it will look like three channels, it is in fact just one |
[21:01:24] | Torg: | WFAA-DT, WFAA-SD and WFAA-3 are like that to me |
[21:01:54] | ShiftyPowers: | gotcha |
[21:01:56] | Torg: | the first is HDTV, some of the time, the second is STD def in ATSC (ala good NTSC), and the last simply shows weather radar 24/7 |
[21:02:10] | ShiftyPowers: | gotcha |
[21:02:19] | ShiftyPowers: | but you clicked only the first 2? |
[21:02:26] | ShiftyPowers: | or all three for htat channel in zap2it? |
[21:02:36] | Torg: | I click all three, since maybe I may want to actualy see that raday some day :) |
[21:02:43] | ShiftyPowers: | gotcha |
[21:03:04] | Torg: | yes my zap2it has all those checked but I DO NOT check the WFAA one (the NTSC bcast) |
[21:03:32] | Torg: | there is WFAA, WFAA-DT, WFAA-SD and WFAA-3. I only check the last 3 |
[21:03:59] | ShiftyPowers: | yep |
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[21:04:56] | Torg: | also if you want the icons, id suggest you download them now |
[21:05:17] | Torg: | you can also download them afterwards and edit each channel by hand |
[21:05:23] | Torg: | its just easier to do it now |
[21:05:54] | Torg: | 2 KDTN 4 KDFW 5 KXAS |
[21:05:54] | Torg: | 6 KCEN 8 WFAA 9 WFAADT |
[21:05:55] | Torg: | 9 WFAADT2 9 WFAADT3 10 KWTX |
[21:05:55] | Torg: | 11 KTVT 13 KERA 14 KERADT |
[21:05:55] | Torg: | 18 KTXADT 18 KTXADT2 19 KTVTDT |
[21:06:00] | Torg: | oops sorry |
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[21:07:52] | ShiftyPowers: | hmm, do i need them now? |
[21:07:57] | ShiftyPowers: | just want to make sure it works first |
[21:09:07] | ShiftyPowers: | i actually used my channels.conf from azap to know what I can tune |
[21:09:12] | ShiftyPowers: | and selected those in zap2it |
[21:09:31] | Torg: | good idea |
[21:09:40] | Torg: | and no you dont need the icons, there just eye candy |
[21:11:08] | Torg: | the only thing id like fixed is to make more then just 9 out of 60 channels watchable :P |
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[21:15:37] | nordle: | To change the mp3 audio volume and bitrates for the transcoding recording profiles, I had to do it via SQL as it kept changing back to 32100 and 90 if trying to do it via mythfrontend. |
[21:17:36] | ShiftyPowers: | Torg, thanks for your help but |
[21:17:37] | ShiftyPowers: | bud |
[21:17:43] | ShiftyPowers: | i have to go to lunch but i'll try this later |
[21:17:46] | Torg: | np did it work? |
[21:17:53] | Torg: | I gota go soon, too |
[21:17:53] | ShiftyPowers: | not yet |
[21:17:55] | ShiftyPowers: | almost there |
[21:18:04] | ShiftyPowers: | i'll find you around later if you are around :) |
[21:18:07] | ShiftyPowers: | thanks again for your help |
[21:18:27] | Torg: | np |
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[21:20:15] | nordle: | Is there an easy way to force a transcode on pre-recorded items? I think the reason so much space is consumed, is 1. its not deleted files I've clicked delete on, and 2. i had not setup transcode settings on the install, so everything is 100% TS @ 1.5GB/hour. Does the "Delete + Re-record" option via mythtweb perform a transcode? Otherwise I dount understand what does delete +re-record do, after all, how does it know that something will be on again to |
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[21:26:44] | juski: | blimmin eck! minimyth's rootfs is like 39MB without the themes! |
[21:27:46] | juski: | Torg: the OSD text fits here just fine. sure you're running X at 100DPI? and that you have the requisite fonts installed? |
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[21:29:55] | xris: | juski: that dpi thing could be my issue |
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[21:30:37] | Torg: | I run it at 75DPI otherwise the get too big |
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[21:30:47] | Torg: | but ill play with that later on, I gota run not |
[21:30:48] | juski: | xris: I'll still look into the default osd theme though. I want my theme to look perfick ;) |
[21:30:59] | Torg: | thanks for the osd and new theme :) |
[21:31:19] | juski: | Torg: you have to run at 100DPI or nothing will fit right. if fonts are too big chances are it's because of a substitution |
[21:31:34] | Torg: | k ill work on it later on |
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[21:31:49] | xris: | juski: if you fix it, I'll push for it to be the new default. heh |
[21:32:09] | xris: | juski: someone really needs to find a way to integrate 4:3 and 16:9 themes into a single pack. |
[21:33:21] | juski: | xris: symbolic links |
[21:33:29] | juski: | I've considered it more than once |
[21:33:43] | juski: | but since I got into the habit of making so many custom backgrounds it'd not save that much space |
[21:33:54] | xris: | juski: well, was more thinking so people could just pick the theme they wanted and let myth decide the aspect |
[21:33:56] | kslater: | MythLogBot? |
[21:34:07] | kslater: | ?MythLogBot |
[21:34:17] | kslater: | crap |
[21:34:23] | xris: | kslater: pm it help |
[21:34:33] | kslater: | got it |
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[21:46:17] | juski: | hrm.. back to my digital audio output conundrum.. got my mixer settings right but I think I need alsa to resample everything to 48khz. where in the world does ubuntu keep its asound.conf ? |
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[21:52:41] | juski: | oh hang on |
[21:52:47] | juski: | I wonder... |
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[21:57:57] | kslater: | mythweb seems to have trouble displaying the image for HD recordings on a slave backend. Is this a config item I've missed? |
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[21:59:26] | solemnwarning: | Are there any good tutorials on setting up a mythtv PVR with the remote setup? (Preferably debian based) |
[21:59:50] | solemnwarning: | I have a Compro DVB-T300 btw, I want to use freeview, RF and composite |
[22:01:36] | juski: | solemnwarning: you can't use RF with a DVB-T tuner to pick up analog TV |
[22:01:53] | solemnwarning: | Funny, I did with tvtime |
[22:01:58] | juski: | not unless it's a hybrid but mythtv doesn't support them |
[22:02:03] | solemnwarning: | GAH |
[22:02:11] | solemnwarning: | Mythtv can't use hybrid cards?! |
[22:02:31] | solemnwarning: | Why the hell is setting up a PVR impossible? |
[22:02:43] | juski: | well it _can_ but it can't know that 2 tuner types cannot be used at the same time |
[22:02:57] | solemnwarning: | Ok |
[22:03:01] | solemnwarning: | But I can use one at a time? |
[22:03:06] | juski: | if you have freeview why bother with analogue? |
[22:03:18] | juski: | it's a whole lotta hassle for er.. not many years of analogue tv |
[22:03:21] | solemnwarning: | For watching the sky downstairs |
[22:03:26] | juski: | ah |
[22:03:40] | juski: | you'd be better with a super-long svideo & audio cable tbh |
[22:03:46] | juski: | and a pvr150 |
[22:03:50] | juski: | or just a pvr150 |
[22:03:56] | solemnwarning: | pvr150? |
[22:04:01] | juski: | hauppauge pvr150 |
[22:04:15] | solemnwarning: | This card is supported, so it should work |
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[22:04:41] | juski: | yeah but say you have a recording scheduled from freeview & one scheduled from the $ky box.. what then? |
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[22:04:51] | juski: | crash-tacular, or summink |
[22:05:06] | juski: | well definitely one or two failed recordings |
[22:05:15] | solemnwarning: | I won't do anything like that :P |
[22:05:21] | juski: | yeh yeh |
[22:05:35] | solemnwarning: | So are there any good guides to setting up a PVR box? |
[22:05:40] | juski: | you do know that software encoding sucks don't you? |
[22:05:49] | solemnwarning: | I have a duron 850 and 256MB ram in it |
[22:05:54] | juski: | ugh |
[22:06:14] | juski: | I tried it once as an experiment on my 800mhz machine |
[22:06:28] | juski: | at a decent frame rate it looked more like vhs tbh |
[22:06:28] | solemnwarning: | I'm not going to watch and record at the same time |
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[22:07:33] | juski: | I suggest you RTFM, search the wiki for distro howtos, then ask questions pertaining to stuff you read that you didn't understand |
[22:07:39] | solemnwarning: | I really doubt the DVR boxes you buy have 1GHz+ CPUs |
[22:07:55] | juski: | no they have dedicated hardware encoders & decoders |
[22:08:01] | solemnwarning: | bah |
[22:08:12] | juski: | some even have PVR-on-a-chip |
[22:08:16] | solemnwarning: | If I was gonna buy hardware encoders and decoders I may as well buy a DVR box |
[22:08:17] | juski: | seriously |
[22:08:38] | r3m0t: | solemnwarning: you forgot internet schedulging data, no subscription fees, mythweb |
[22:08:45] | juski: | but ask yourself are they as versatile? can you schedule recordings while you're at work? |
[22:08:54] | juski: | can you watch other content on them? |
[22:08:55] | r3m0t: | ad filters, etc, etc |
[22:08:59] | juski: | can you network them? |
[22:09:08] | solemnwarning: | meh |
[22:09:22] | juski: | sure they're easy to set up – very plug & play, but they're also very limiting ;) |
[22:09:28] | solemnwarning: | I'm just a bit pissed with Linux DVR boxes since I've been trying to get freevo working since yesterday |
[22:09:46] | solemnwarning: | And now it seems 1.6 has some bug that makes it not work at all |
[22:09:48] | juski: | I never got freevo to work either |
[22:10:00] | juski: | or VDR |
[22:10:06] | juski: | or Mediaportal |
[22:10:08] | Shikkie: | I'm considering a mythtv box using Fedora Core 6, a pvr-150 w/ remote, 256MB DDR333 memory, Athlon XP 1600+ cpu, and an IDE hard drive, vid card probably will be a nvidia geforce ti4600; would that be adequate? |
[22:10:11] | juski: | or GBPVR |
[22:10:14] | juski: | ... |
[22:10:17] | defi__3x: | This may be old but does anyone knowof a bug in .20 that causes livetv to freeze when programs change ie. every 1/2 hour or hour depending on length of program. Im not using NFS. |
[22:10:19] | ** solemnwarning puts a debian CD in and redoes the install ** | |
[22:10:33] | juski: | solemnwarning: 1. install linux |
[22:10:39] | juski: | 2. test your tuner card(s) |
[22:10:41] | juski: | 3. install mythtv |
[22:10:44] | juski: | 4. set up mythtv |
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[22:10:59] | solemnwarning: | I'm gonna reinstall to get rid of all the freevo stuff around it |
[22:11:09] | solemnwarning: | It would be faster then deleting it all |
[22:12:22] | defi__3x: | I read this bug was in .19 but haven't seen any refrences to .20 and it's happening to me. |
[22:12:45] | juski: | defi__3x: try 0.20-fixes |
[22:14:08] | defi__3x: | juski: Is that a patch? |
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[22:15:17] | Anduin: | defi__3x: It is the branch were patches to 0.20 are applied |
[22:15:46] | juski: | hrm. this alsa stuff really has me puzzled |
[22:16:35] | juski: | I need audio to come out of the front analogue output & spdif at the same time, as well as pass ac3 & DTS to the spdif port |
[22:16:51] | r3m0t: | Shikkie: I think you might need more RAM... |
[22:16:52] | juski: | I get DTS etc out of it but no normal stereo audio |
[22:17:04] | defi__3x: | Anduin: thanks, is there a central repository for all the patches so I can locate the patch I need? |
[22:17:56] | Shikkie: | r3m0t, I'm kinda thinking the same; I have another stick of the same memory I could cannibalize from another box to try 512 out if it seems sluggish |
[22:18:25] | Shikkie: | r3m0t, otherwise, that would handle it as a single backend/frontend? |
[22:18:56] | Anduin: | defi__3x: you can look through trac, I don't remember a patch that would fix that specific issue but you can look through everything applied |
[22:19:51] | defi__3x: | Anduin: thanks if I cant find that then Ill install fixes and see if it clears up |
[22:20:15] | Anduin: | defi__3x: If you are running 0.20 you should probably be running 0.20-fixes |
[22:21:05] | defi__3x: | Anduin: I dont see .20-fixes on the downlad page where is it located? |
[22:21:24] | solemnwarning: | The compro DVB-T300 is capable of starting the machine when a recording is about to start so you don't need to leave it running, can mythtv use that feature? |
[22:21:39] | solemnwarning: | If it can I might upgrade it to an Athlon XP 1800+ |
[22:22:01] | Anduin: | defi__3x: You would use svn to check it out |
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[22:22:04] | r3m0t: | Shikkie: I guess so *shurg* |
[22:22:52] | Shikkie: | r3m0t, I guess like anything, my mileage will vary |
[22:23:02] | Anduin: | defi__3x: The tarballs are only updated for major releases, something more of a bad joke really. |
[22:23:09] | solemnwarning: | Anyone? |
[22:23:10] | defi__3x: | Anduin: Thanks, I'm reading my ebuild now to see if I might possibly have it installed already |
[22:23:38] | Anduin: | defi__3x: Yeah, you almost certainly do if you are using an ebuild |
[22:23:42] | Shikkie: | it sounds like people are having success with less powerful hardware so there's hope :) |
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[22:26:20] | solemnwarning: | So mythtv can't use the boot timer on the TV card? :) |
[22:26:22] | solemnwarning: | *:( |
[22:27:12] | Anduin: | solemnwarning: I don't use it, but there is/was a feature on machines that supported it where myth would shut down and boot in time to start recording. |
[22:27:17] | juski: | solemnwarning: no but mythtv supports motherboards with timed wakeup features |
[22:27:29] | solemnwarning: | The timed bootup in the BIOS? |
[22:27:36] | juski: | will you just sit down & read some documentation |
[22:27:46] | ** solemnwarning jumps around and burns some docs ** | |
[22:27:56] | juski: | I know you're itching to get going but you need to go through the basics first |
[22:28:22] | sphing: | anyone have the sil3114 raid controller? |
[22:29:36] | r3m0t: | is there a program I can run from the command line which says "tell mythtv-frontend I pressed left/right/up/down"? |
[22:30:15] | solemnwarning: | I have a SiI 3112 |
[22:30:18] | xris: | r3m0t: telnet :) |
[22:30:38] | xris: | r3m0t: nothing quite ready yet that I know of that has it scripted out |
[22:30:55] | ** xris goes to rake some leaves. ** | |
[22:31:58] | r3m0t: | xris: telnet to who? |
[22:33:25] | sphing: | solemnwarning: do you have kernel panics? |
[22:33:30] | solemnwarning: | No |
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[22:33:59] | sphing: | after alot of data, the kernel panics |
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[22:36:01] | sphing: | solemnwarning: do you use the kernel module? |
[22:36:07] | solemnwarning: | Yes |
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[22:39:09] | solemnwarning: | I don't see anything in the docs about the timed boot |
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[22:55:16] | sphing: | solemnwarning: i have a bad memory stick |
[22:55:22] | sphing: | that was corrupting data |
[22:57:48] | Captain_Murdoch: | solemnwarning: search the mailing lists for "nvram wakeup" |
[22:57:57] | Captain_Murdoch: | without the quotes |
[22:58:06] | solemnwarning: | ok |
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[23:12:46] | chrizspencer: | hi guys |
[23:13:08] | ** LLyric sighs ** | |
[23:13:26] | chrizspencer: | does anybody run fedora? |
[23:13:32] | LLyric: | Pffffthp |
[23:13:36] | chrizspencer: | an is still awake? |
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[23:13:42] | janneg: | maybe root? |
[23:13:54] | chrizspencer: | nice joke |
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[23:15:39] | Tuxguy: | i am going to be building a mythtv machine, is a remote sensor a must? or can i use the mouse? also.... should i use a tv tuner that has coaxile support since i am going to be recording from cable tv |
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[23:18:54] | LLyric: | Tuxguy: the rmote is just a convenience, but the cable-tv thing is more complicated |
[23:19:08] | Tuxguy: | How bad? :/ |
[23:19:31] | LLyric: | Tuxguy: cable is encrypted, and mythtv can't decrypt it, so you need to take a decrypted feed from your cable box |
[23:19:41] | chrizspencer: | is your cable analouge or digital? |
[23:19:46] | Tuxguy: | I don't have encryped cable. |
[23:19:55] | Tuxguy: | I have basic cable, analog + extended channels, no box |
[23:20:06] | chrizspencer: | what card? |
[23:20:07] | LLyric: | It's still encrypted |
[23:20:16] | LLyric: | Isn't it? |
[23:20:50] | ** chrizspencer 550 packets currtently updating ** | |
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[23:22:25] | ShiftyPowers: | anyone know what a program not found in PAT error is? |
[23:22:35] | ShiftyPowers: | on the backend? |
[23:22:56] | PointyPumper: | every cable channel in usa is encrypted? :S |
[23:23:22] | ** LLyric isn't in USA, so doesn't know about these things... ** | |
[23:23:25] | Tuxguy: | How much is a device to change it to a decrypted feed |
[23:23:32] | PointyPumper: | oh, well, in the first world |
[23:23:37] | Shikkie: | No, you should be able to get basic analog cable through the cable jack |
[23:23:47] | LLyric: | Tuxguy: YOu get that from your cable provider, normally |
[23:23:53] | Shikkie: | w/o a cable box... at least with my company I can |
[23:24:11] | Tuxguy: | I don't have a cable box... is it still encryped? Is my Tv doing the decription? |
[23:24:13] | Tuxguy: | I have basic cable |
[23:24:24] | LLyric: | If it's just rf-modulated, you may be able to use a tuner |
[23:24:34] | LLyric: | Is basic cable just the networks, that are free-to-air? |
[23:24:46] | Shikkie: | I've used a tuner direct to basic cable for all the basic channels |
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[23:24:55] | chrizspencer: | what pci card do you have? |
[23:25:02] | chrizspencer: | or usb |
[23:25:19] | Shikkie: | I was using a PVR 500 |
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[23:25:32] | ** LLyric did similar with pvr-350 ** | |
[23:25:32] | chrizspencer: | is it a dual tuner? |
[23:25:37] | chrizspencer: | yes |
[23:25:49] | Shikkie: | I'm using a digital box now because it gets me a clearer signal but before at another house I just had basic |
[23:26:00] | Shikkie: | chrizspencer, the 500 is dual tuner. works really well, I like it |
[23:26:11] | chrizspencer: | i think so |
[23:26:14] | chrizspencer: | should work |
[23:26:15] | Tuxguy: | Shikkie, PVR 500 works in Linux? |
[23:26:19] | Shikkie: | I just ordered a pvr 150 for a mythtv box; I've got a windows media center using the 500 right now |
[23:26:19] | LLyric: | If you have an antenna, getting digital/HD from there might be better. |
[23:26:32] | chrizspencer: | pvr350 works |
[23:26:45] | chrizspencer: | but analog is discontinued in germany in the near future |
[23:26:48] | Shikkie: | Tuxguy, I think so, the whole pvr series uses the same drivers |
[23:26:55] | chrizspencer: | and digital cable is encrypted at all |
[23:27:15] | chrizspencer: | not the mce 150 or 250? |
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[23:27:28] | chrizspencer: | is it recognized by linux in the boot screen |
[23:28:23] | chrizspencer: | i just upgraded fedora core 5 to 6. looks good |
[23:28:25] | LLyric: | Depends on your distro etc. IIRC I had to add some driver, but it was easy. |
[23:28:40] | chrizspencer: | does anyone like to help me with the compiling next? |
[23:29:20] | Shikkie: | I'm going to be using FC6 for a box pretty soon |
[23:29:32] | chrizspencer: | already works |
[23:29:53] | chrizspencer: | but i need a compiled version with something forbidden. but i use it just for me |
[23:29:59] | PointyPumper: | [20:40:25] <chrizspencer> but analog is discontinued in germany in the near future |
[23:30:01] | PointyPumper: | ^@#%$^&@%#&@$ |
[23:30:09] | PointyPumper: | here we dont even have hdtv |
[23:30:13] | PointyPumper: | :'( |
[23:30:37] | PointyPumper: | bah, digital tv |
[23:30:37] | PointyPumper: | asd |
[23:30:52] | chrizspencer: | hdtv is in german cable kd! |
[23:30:58] | chrizspencer: | analog is going to end |
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[23:31:51] | chrizspencer: | kd told me a week ago. that´s why the receiver is now always included |
[23:32:12] | chrizspencer: | all digital private channels are basic encrypted |
[23:33:00] | ShiftyPowers: | Torg was here earlier but does anyone have experience with DVB and mythtv? I have it almost setup but LiveTV is blank when i try watching TV |
[23:33:04] | ShiftyPowers: | ? |
[23:33:27] | chrizspencer: | i have experience. what country? |
[23:33:45] | chrizspencer: | did you already find channels? |
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[23:34:13] | ShiftyPowers: | US |
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[23:34:20] | ShiftyPowers: | i can scan the channels in the builtin scanner |
[23:34:29] | chrizspencer: | did you find some? |
[23:34:36] | ShiftyPowers: | and they show up in mythweb but have no xmltid numbers |
[23:34:38] | ShiftyPowers: | yes i found quite a few |
[23:34:48] | ShiftyPowers: | and i'm able to play them if I use azap and mplayer for example |
[23:34:56] | ShiftyPowers: | and do the whole tune azap first and then play mplayer |
[23:35:02] | ShiftyPowers: | so i know the hardware is working |
[23:35:43] | chrizspencer: | sounds bad |
[23:35:59] | ShiftyPowers: | i'm using svn mythtv |
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[23:36:08] | ShiftyPowers: | i'm almost there it's so frustrating |
[23:36:17] | ShiftyPowers: | and i can't make heads or tails of the mythbackend.log |
[23:36:44] | ShiftyPowers: | chriz are you in the us? |
[23:36:57] | chrizspencer: | no. germany |
[23:37:00] | chrizspencer: | mine works |
[23:37:08] | chrizspencer: | with ci/cam |
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[23:37:51] | ShiftyPowers: | crap |
[23:37:57] | ShiftyPowers: | and all you did was scan for channels? |
[23:38:02] | ShiftyPowers: | is it OTA or through a cable? |
[23:38:03] | chrizspencer: | no |
[23:38:10] | chrizspencer: | i had to add a transponder first |
[23:38:21] | chrizspencer: | after that mythtv added the rest of them |
[23:38:24] | ShiftyPowers: | transponder or transport? |
[23:38:29] | chrizspencer: | transponder |
[23:38:32] | ShiftyPowers: | is that hardware transponder |
[23:38:32] | ShiftyPowers: | ah |
[23:38:34] | ShiftyPowers: | ok |
[23:38:43] | ShiftyPowers: | but in mythtv all you had to do was scan for the channels? |
[23:38:49] | ShiftyPowers: | what card do you have if you don't mind me asking |
[23:38:53] | chrizspencer: | we are talking about dvb-c, do we? |
[23:39:06] | ShiftyPowers: | it's over the air ATSC DVB |
[23:39:10] | chrizspencer: | technotrend budget 1500 and knc1 |
[23:39:41] | chrizspencer: | are you able just to record? |
[23:39:45] | chrizspencer: | did you try? |
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[23:40:04] | ShiftyPowers: | i get nothing on the screen |
[23:40:12] | ShiftyPowers: | can't change the channels |
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[23:40:44] | chrizspencer: | sounds that this channels is locked |
[23:40:52] | chrizspencer: | do you see the channels in the schedule? |
[23:40:56] | chrizspencer: | epg |
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[23:41:27] | ShiftyPowers: | yeah i do |
[23:41:39] | ShiftyPowers: | the channels aren't locked from the source, they are over the air free broadcasts |
[23:41:47] | ShiftyPowers: | so i know it's probably not there |
[23:41:56] | chrizspencer: | try to schedule something not encrypted or try a startchannel that is not encrypted! |
[23:42:34] | ShiftyPowers: | none of them are encrypted though |
[23:44:00] | ShiftyPowers: | here's the error i get in my mythbackend log |
[23:44:01] | ShiftyPowers: | http://pastebin.com/832876 |
[23:48:14] | chrizspencer: | there was a solution in a german forum |
[23:48:31] | chrizspencer: | he said that he changed the bandwidth manually, not auto |
[23:48:40] | juski: | bah this non-digital output of stereo audio is bugging me now |
[23:48:42] | ShiftyPowers: | hmm, don't know what that means |
[23:48:49] | ShiftyPowers: | what bandwidth? |
[23:48:54] | chrizspencer: | i have no idea |
[23:49:06] | chrizspencer: | look in the cardmenu for bandwidth |
[23:49:39] | ShiftyPowers: | ok |
[23:49:41] | ShiftyPowers: | i'll look |
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[23:51:55] | chrizspencer: | please help me with that compiling messages. i have no idea whats wrong http://pastebin.com/832881 |
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[23:55:51] | juski: | FH... alsa is majorly complicated |
[23:55:55] | xris: | chrizspencer: need more context |
[23:55:59] | chrizspencer: | ok |
[23:56:04] | chrizspencer: | i come back after a reboot |
[23:56:09] | xris: | chrizspencer: you might also find better help in #mythtv-de |
[23:56:12] | chrizspencer: | any help is welcome! |
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[23:57:03] | juski: | any alsa experts in the house tonight who know how to get both normal & passthru audio out of a spdif output? |
[23:57:28] | canny: | juski mine works if I unmute the ie device in alsamixer |
[23:57:44] | canny: | assume you tried that |
[23:57:45] | juski: | it's unmuted |
[23:57:53] | juski: | ac3 & dts come out juust fine |
[23:58:04] | juski: | just not regular ole stereo audio |
[23:58:05] | xris: | juski: I should look into getting that hooked up on my box now that I have a receiver that can play it. |
[23:58:13] | xris: | except that the pundit SUCKS and has the port in the front |
[23:58:18] | juski: | eew |
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[23:58:23] | juski: | alsa is evil |
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[23:58:34] | canny: | hey there xris good news I am allowed to spend some time next week doing the mobile side of mythweb |
[23:58:40] | juski: | this worked fine btw, until I stopped using gdm & gnome |
[23:58:44] | canny: | as got the Managing director into mythtv !!! |
[23:58:55] | xris: | canny: cool |
[23:59:17] | canny: | so hopefully will submit you a couple of patches for the mobile side of stuff late next week |
[23:59:25] | xris: | cool |
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