Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Monday, November 20th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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D-side:

GreyFoxx: i did that years ago.

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D-side:

GreyFoxx: when was the last time you helped someone, or found something helpful on it?

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savageone:

grey: what's the command to mount it w/ nfs instead of samba

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savageone:

probably a better idea huh?

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savageone:

nfsmount hehe

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GreyFoxx:

I answer stuff on there all the time, but frankly the number of idiots is growing

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GreyFoxx:

and the over all signal to noise ratio sucks

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GreyFoxx:

so much that I only read a fraction of the threads

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savageone:

hehe

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GreyFoxx:

savageone: mount -t nfs 192.168.0.100:/path/blah /mnt/point

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daveyiv:

When I run cat /proc/bus/input/devices it doesn't like my pvr150 IR blaster, however when I do a mode 2 -d /dev/lirc0 it receives the input from the remote, and because the cat command doesn't list it irw wont show any input, anyone know whats going on?

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GreyFoxx:

assuming you have an export of /path/blah setup

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savageone:

grey: nyou the name

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savageone:

u know what

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savageone:

i might actually name the directory blah

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savageone:

in honor of you ;)

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GreyFoxx:

ok :)

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Cardoe:

So what's the trick to make mythdvd work

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savageone:

does the spot we mount it to HVAE to be in mnt

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savageone:

I assume no

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GreyFoxx:

savageone: Nope, can be anywhere

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GreyFoxx:

I have /data/mythtv /data/video /data/mp3 /data/photos and /data/space on all mine

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savageone:

unable to lookup knoppix via gethostname

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savageone:

wtf

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savageone:

grey: I had a ton of samba shares before from my roomates tv collection, but the media browser would load all slow

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savageone:

so I just moved everything ONTO the backend

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savageone:

right now, I'm building a vmware machine to learn how to setup frontends

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savageone:

so I can build one from my bedroom

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savageone:

or even possibly just run the vmware machine from a laptop or pc in the bedroom or whatever

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savageone:

it plays, but the tv is mad choppy

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savageone:

.....vmware

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daveyiv:

When I run cat /proc/bus/input/devices it doesn't list my pvr150 IR blaster, however when I do a mode 2 -d /dev/lirc0 it receives the input from the remote, and because the cat command doesn't list it irw wont show any input, anyone know whats going on?

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GreyFoxx:

I've used a vmware frontend as a spur of the moment frontend,but now that I have fe's in everyroom I just use it for basic dev work when I am out of the house

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savageone:

werd

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savageone:

what's that error about tho

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GreyFoxx:

doh,that reminds me, forgot to commit that second fix to -fixes

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savageone:

via gethostname

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daveyiv:

Is there something special I need to do to make cat /proc/bus/input/devices show my IR device?

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russK:

is it a usb device?

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savageone:

sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.2.102:/myth /myth/

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daveyiv:

russK, its a pvr150 so no

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D-side:

i'm gonna have to see what channels actually work on this firewire box.

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russK:

How do you skip back to live after pausing?

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savageone:

i get the same error when I run su -

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savageone:

it's something fucking w/ sudo

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savageone:

and ssh is refusing connection

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savageone:

strange

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savageone:

so I can't run ANY root commands

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savageone:

that's fucking awesome

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D-side:

yawn.

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D-side:

its taking me a while to move 42gb over firewire. hrm.

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rfergu:

HI, we are setting up a mythtv box for christmas and I want to know if a project is possible. We have many dvds which we would like to store on hard disk and be able to select them from a menu. Hopefully the dvd will not be crippled and the dvds menus will be intact. Is this project possible?

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savageone:

yup

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savageone:

knoppmyth would be an easy way to start

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savageone:

boots of a cd, let's you auto install the whole deal

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savageone:

check the pamphlet online, google it

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kormoc:

savageone, and how do you play dvd images with menus?

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savageone:

yup

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savageone:

I had one get messed up on import

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kormoc:

what player?

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savageone:

but you can also rip them to xvid and it's crazy smaller

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savageone:

mplayer

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kormoc:

xine for me will not view menus on iso's

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savageone:

myth does it

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kormoc:

mplayer doesn't support menus at all

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savageone:

xine does if it's reading a dvd for me

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savageone:

put it this way

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rfergu:

yeah I was trying to do it, and the menus didn't happen

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kormoc:

xine does if it's a real disk

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savageone:

the default install of knoppmyth will play the menus

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kormoc:

but the libdvdnav requires block level access to do menus which loopback devices do not allow

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rfergu:

I don't mind copying the disks whole (4.9 gigs or whatever) no compression is needed.

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savageone:

kornmoc: AHHHHHN not from iso?

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savageone:

I thought it did

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kormoc:

nopers

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savageone:

that bites

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savageone:

I ripped to iso earlier

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savageone:

and it was wrecked

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savageone:

couldn't watch the file, the video was all distorted

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GreyFoxx:

the Internal player handles menus on dvd iso I thought

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kormoc:

GreyFoxx, really? hrm. I'll have to test it.

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savageone:

yeah

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savageone:

I usually rip to good

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savageone:

but if it's something w/ a lot of features, or if it's my girls lord of the rings super duper disk, she wants the whole deal os I iso'd it

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savageone:

I was pretty sure the menus worked

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savageone:

I'll tell you what

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savageone:

this rip right here to good is taking over an hour for 26 minutes

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savageone:

what's a good setting that'll keep a full 120minute movie at around 700mb

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** GreyFoxx makes and ISO to test menu support **

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savageone:

greyfox: you go boy

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savageone:

I'm so happy my channel data is right now

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savageone:

I'm going to record some stuff and the recording is going to start when the show starts, and end when it ends

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savageone:

by god

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kormoc:

heh, I'm playing with it now as well :P

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GreyFoxx:

hehe

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savageone:

it's all about setting the system time right rofl

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savageone:

I missed it

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GreyFoxx:

root@woop:/data/video# time cat /dev/hdc > FindingNemo-DVD.iso

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GreyFoxx:

hehe

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savageone:

grey: that quick? no

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savageone:

why did ripping to iso mess me up earlier I wonder

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kormoc:

heh, I tend to use dd, so I can continue on errprs and what not

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savageone:

wait wait

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GreyFoxx:

savageone: No, that's copying now, took like12 minutes last time I did it

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savageone:

It's because I was playing it from mplayer because I did it through my media browser

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savageone:

grey: you got the syntax I need to put into the video player to make it work good w/ xine

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kormoc:

savageone, we're playing with the internal video player, not xine or mplayer

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GreyFoxx:

Nope, I've never used xine for more than just starting avideo from the commandline

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GreyFoxx:

I use the Internal player for mythdvd and mythvideo

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D-side:

i'm absolutely amazed i'm able to play HD over my wireless.

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GreyFoxx:

once this ISO is done I'll try it on the iso

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savageone:

I wasn't aware of any internal player haha

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GreyFoxx:

savageone: The same one used for recording playback

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D-side:

hell. lets try livetv

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GreyFoxx:

Plays DVD's with menus and anything ffmpeg can handle

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savageone:

i go into video settings

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savageone:

player settings

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savageone:

and under default player it says : mplayer -f zoom etc etc

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savageone:

cna I just change that to internal

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savageone:

is that what you guys are talkin bout?

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GreyFoxx:

"Internal" with a captial I

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GreyFoxx:

yup

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savageone:

without any zoom bs right?

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GreyFoxx:

exactly

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savageone:

this isn't some sort of knoppix centric deal is it?

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GreyFoxx:

Internal

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savageone:

my dvd is set to xine so I'll do the same there

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GreyFoxx:

I don't know anything about knoppix or knoppmyth

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savageone:

ALSO, whatever codecs I have oinstalled still work right?

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kormoc:

I don't use knoppix/knoppmyth

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savageone:

because I've got a lot of wmvs unfortunately and they play now w/ the w32 codecs library

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savageone:

kormoc: I know ;)

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GreyFoxx:

If the Internalplayer (libavcodec/libavformat) can handle it

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frankrizzo:

Mythfront end is crashing with the following error when I try and select media to archive to dvd " mythfrontend: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmytharchive.so: undefined symbol: _ZNK11ProgramInfo17GetRecordBasenameEb"

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frankrizzo:

and I am at somewhat of a loss as to what to do. I do not seeing anything in the mailing list archive

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kormoc:

GreyFoxx, it's working fine, my god, I'm happy! :)

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FunkyELF:

hey guys, I figure some people in here may be knowlegabe about encoding video....

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savageone:

if I make a player settings change do I need to restart frontend?

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GreyFoxx:

kormoc: Cool :)

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kormoc:

rfergu, so there you go, the internal video player will handle menus off of iso's

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savageone:

not the box but the program

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kormoc:

nopers

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FunkyELF:

This isn't mythtv related. I just need to take a video from my camera and compress it. It is 45 minutes and 1.2Gb. I want to do like xvid or something

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frankrizzo:

the nuv tool should work

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frankrizzo:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Nuvexport

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FunkyELF:

frankrizzo, you talkin to me?

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frankrizzo:

yeah

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kormoc:

FunkyELF, ffmpeg is typical to use

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FunkyELF:

doesn't nuvexport come up with a list of stuff from MythTV?

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Vantage13:

what would be the best way to migrate recordings from one mythtv backend to another?

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FunkyELF:

kormoc yeah, I tried ffmpeg but I'm getting errors even when I use no options

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savageone:

grey: how did you set it up to get the whole dvd w/ the menu in iso

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frankrizzo:

it looks like you can use it from the command line outside of mythtv, just a suggestion though. I am by no means an expert

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FunkyELF:

and the program I tried for windows wound up out of sync

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GreyFoxx:

savageone: that cat line did it

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GreyFoxx:

copied the entire disk

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savageone:

because I'm seeing here that it asks me for each title on the tv to hit select

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frankrizzo:

if you read that wiki page though it should answer your question

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savageone:

oh

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savageone:

you don't do it from the menu?

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GreyFoxx:

nope

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savageone:

fuck man

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GreyFoxx:

10 minutes, 18 seconds

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savageone:

how big

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savageone:

no compression right?

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GreyFoxx:

nope

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kormoc:

savageone, aye, 4.7 gb or so for a full disk

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savageone:

so 4–6 gb hehe

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GreyFoxx:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4166172672 2006-11–19 21:01 FindingNemo-DVD.iso

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GreyFoxx:

That's a full, non compressed Finding Nemo copy

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savageone:

so what's w/ this iso option in the rip menu

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GreyFoxx:

It does basically the same thing as my cat did

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savageone:

but, it asks you to select each title

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savageone:

and when I did, the iso it made just played the one episode

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savageone:

w/ fucked up video, which I know assume is because I had mplayer set

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savageone:

now I"m Internal ;)

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GreyFoxx:

Like I said earlier, I don't really use that tool to really say what itshouldand shouldn't be doing

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savageone:

but it wants to rip the iso into seperate stuf

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savageone:

werd

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savageone:

anyone here do that

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frankrizzo:

I have found this that is related to my error : http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . ror;#234601, but the problem stems from using multiple methods to update mythtv. I have only used yum to update

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frankrizzo:

and have not compiled anything on my own

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fryfrog:

is it possible to do a forced install of a package with apt, but not install any dependancies?

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fryfrog:

ie, kind of like oneshot in gentoo?

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frankrizzo1985:

whoops, got knocked off....in case anyone responded I would not have received the response.....

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fryfrog:

nm

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savageone:

fry: nope

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savageone:

i got no idea I'd love to help

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savageone:

hehe

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D-side:

haha

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D-side:

i tried to watch HD through my xbox.

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fryfrog:

okay, maybe this is easier... i have a bunch of shows that have db info but no file. due to migrating, and some stuff. any idea how to get them in sync?

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D-side:

<-- fool

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shodan:

is it possible to use a tivo as a video source (maybe not for live tv, but somehow tell the tivo to record certain program and then download the video via the network interface)

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kormoc:

shodan, nope

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nakedchick:

hehe

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nakedchick:

that's like making one car drive another car whiule driving behind said car

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nakedchick is now known as SavageOne

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SavageOne:

btw, the nick change was a joke in another channel

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SavageOne:

my sincere apologies for my lame joke ;)

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SavageOne:

sorry dog

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SavageOne:

unless you can rig something

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SavageOne:

w/ the ir blaster or something

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SavageOne:

it IS open source

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SavageOne:

put on your hard hat and dive in

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shodan:

yeah , a bit too hackish, I'm just out of a nightmare of getting asterisk to work using too much hackery , don't feel like doing that again ;)

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SavageOne:

haha

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SavageOne:

I'm an asterisk guy

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SavageOne:

I use trixbox tho

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SavageOne:

mainly

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SavageOne:

so, I feel your pain

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shodan:

you know , first it was alsa-based , when I got cheap x100p , then good x100p , then spa3k2 and now I'm looking for some sangoma fxo ;)

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shodan:

s/when/then

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shodan:

I've had every problem in the book ;)

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SavageOne:

I rock digium

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SavageOne:

but the sangomas are nice

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SavageOne:

rhinos are nice

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SavageOne:

voiptutorials.com

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SavageOne:

kerry puts a podcast together, I mix it down, it's a good thing to listen to

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SavageOne:

it's like weekly

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SavageOne:

there's 6 up there

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frankrizzo:

Anyone running SVN?

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kormoc:

I'm running a svn build, aye

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gu014:

what video card might i purchase that has composite video out?

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kormoc:

I use a nvidia 6200

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frankrizzo:

i think I am at the point where I am going to uninstall myth and go with the SVN version because of my issue with mytharchive

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frankrizzo:

crashing

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gu014:

kormac: 6200 has composite video out?

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frankrizzo:

wanted to see how long it typically takes to compile it and all

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kormoc:

mine does, aye

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kormoc:

depends on your computer

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gu014:

kormac,what about the tuner card. all i need is a setup that has composite video in as well as out?

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gu014:

since i will be using a set-top box

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kormoc:

a pvr 150 is quite nice

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fryfrog:

does anyone know if there is an "ubuntu" way of doing perl modules?

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gu014:

kormac,i have two of those but they only have s-video in

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kormoc:

some models have composite as well

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daveyiv:

why would my IR device on my pvr-150 not show up when i do cat /proc/bus/input/devices?

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frankrizzo:

kormoc, from what I see all i will need to do is install lamp by hand and then do "svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv" (and the other related commands for plugins and such) to compile myth tv

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frankrizzo:

is that all there will be to it, or will I have then find and compile like 100 other related things?

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kormoc:

lamp?

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kormoc:

and you're likely gonna need other things

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frankrizzo:

sorry, lame

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frankrizzo:

I am just trying to get an idea if I am over my head here, I can follow directions, but since I am not so good with linux its easy for me to get stuck simply because I dont know the correct commands

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xris:

kormoc: it's that new all-in-one apache+msql+mysql+perl+python+php package. :)

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frankrizzo:

xris, yeah, i meant lame though

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daveyiv:

why would my IR device on my pvr-150 not show up when i do cat /proc/bus/input/devices?

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xris:

daveyiv: no kernel driver for it?

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daveyiv:

im using ubuntu 6.10

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xris:

so?

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daveyiv:

how do i fix that?

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fryfrog:

daveyiv: mine never showed up as a device, on my pvr250s course that was an ir input

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xris:

install the lirc kernel module?

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fryfrog:

i think it was due to it being perhaps an i2c device?

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xris:

and even then it might not. lirc may work outside of the /dev/environment

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fryfrog:

but maybe i'm speaking out of my ass

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daveyiv:

lirc did work when i did mode2 -d /dev/lirc/0

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daveyiv:

but not when i did irw, what would cause that?

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daveyiv:

it never would work in the front end, just in the mode2 command

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frankrizzo:

kormoc, like what other things? How would I know what I would need?

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kormoc:

frankrizzo, http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-4.html

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frankrizzo:

thanks

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xylo:

Can I get some help with an audio problem? I'm using FC6 new install. I have the frontend settings at ALSA:default and mixer at default, but I get no sound from live tv. DVD and videos seem to work fine..

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frankrizzo:

I typed the following command "rpm -qa | grep myth | xargs rpm -e" to uninstall all myth rpms

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frankrizzo:

it took it, but just sat there and did not give any sort of confirmation

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frankrizzo:

mythbackend & frontend no longer work, but how do I know if it really got rid of all the myth related items?

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PaulWay:

frankrizzo: rpm -qa *myth*

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frankrizzo:

thanks

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frankrizzo:

now the waiting game beings......charter cable in US sucks....

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steve___:

just going to a howto for getting my dvb card working under linux. In the howto is suggests to run dvbscan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/uk-Oxford Does anyone have a file for echostar 6,8 or echostar 7? Or a spot I can read?

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xylo:

when watching live tv i get an error

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xylo:

AudioOutput Warning: Mixer attach error -2: No such file or directory

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xylo:

Check Mixer Name in Setup: '/dev/mixer'

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WAR_CH|LD:

anyone know much about hte mythcommflag/mythtranscode stuff? I can not get it to behave like I would lke too

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kormoc:

xylo, you could set the mixer to a device that exists

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WAR_CH|LD:

actually, using all the power of my brain I think i've just sorted it

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WAR_CH|LD:

dw. :)

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PaulWay:

WAR_CH|LD: How do you want it to behave?

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xylo:

The /dev/mixer device exists, with permissions for everyone. Still the same error when trying to watch tv. DVD and video is working fine

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xylo:

More of the error message: Opening ALSA audio device 'default'.ALSA lib control.c:910:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/mixer

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WAR_CH|LD:

well, just in the mythtv-setup general config, you have fields for settings options on the mythcommflag and transcode commands

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WAR_CH|LD:

but, if you add options it thne wants the file names for it

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WAR_CH|LD:

but, the userjobs command arguements just work in user jobs

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WAR_CH|LD:

and dont work in the spots already allocated

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WAR_CH|LD:

so I just made a userjob that does it for me, nad leaving the commflag/transcode options default in the general options

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WAR_CH|LD:

simple really, but my brain is a littel slow sometimes. :P happens with abuse. :)

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Captain_Murdoch:

WAR_CH|LD: if you put anything in those custom command fields for mythcommflag/mythtranscode, you have to specify all the normal options that would normally be passed because your user-specified command line will be used instead of the normal auto-generated one.

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Captain_Murdoch:

the fields aren't for appending options to the normal commands, they replace them.

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sigger:

Are the results of recording an AVI to a DVD (DVD disc, not data disc) less than excellent? Thought I remembered reading so.

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kormoc:

well, you get the encoding artifacts of the avi and the mpeg2, so it can be sucky

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frankrizzo:

kormac, whats a text editor other than vi?

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sigger:

thought I remembered reading that there were audio/video sync issues

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sigger:

frankrizzo: nano?

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frankrizzo:

yeah

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frankrizzo:

thats the one I forgot

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frankrizzo:

thanks

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kormoc:

by the way, it's kormoc not kormac

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sigger:

np:)

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kormoc:

two O's

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rothgar:

frankrizzo: pico is one I really like

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sigger:

karnac the magnificent – old Johnny Carson bit

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steve___:

anyone in here have a dvb-s card and mythtv working?

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kormoc:

I use vim personally

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frankrizzo:

kormoc, sorry, hit the wrong key

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sigger:

pico is much like nano. one's a take off of the other

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Zider:

rothgar: you prefer pico over nano?

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sigger:

so no serious audio/video sync issue going from avi to dvd?

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Zider:

sigger: yes, nano is a fork of pico, so you don't need pine to have the editor

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frankrizzo:

hmm, running into a problem with setting up svn, I am trying to follow the directions for editing settings.pro per this documentation :http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Upgrading_To_SVN and I dont see anything like it says I should edit

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sigger:

Zider: ah thank you

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rothgar:

Zider: well, I really can't say I have used nano very much. so from what I have done I use pico more than anything else

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frankrizzo:

if someone could take a look I would really apreciate it

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Zider:

rothgar: ah.. I used pico a lot too, before I realised nano was just like it, without needing a mail reader as well ;)

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rothgar:

maybe I'll give it a shot

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sigger:

wifey was just asking if there was a problem getting a mythtv recording over to DVD. I imagine its physically possible though perhaps illegal herer in US

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rothgar:

all I know is I don't like vi

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frankrizzo:

i agree, nano is nice and easy

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GreyFoxx:

hehe vi (or ViM) are my favourite editors,

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frankrizzo:

i only edit simple files

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GreyFoxx:

I only use them unless I'm stuck on a windows machine without gvim :)

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Zider:

I never liked vi(m) either..

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GreyFoxx:

It can be rough at first, but after a couple days it's second nature. I find myself hitting ESC all the time in notepadhehe

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rothgar:

haha, I was so confused the first time I used vi

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rothgar:

I wanted to leave so I kept hitting esc

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GreyFoxx:

I love it, I useit for everything

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Zider:

I don't even have it installed :)

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GreyFoxx:

main reason I first learned it though was that it's installed on pretty much every single *nix machine in existance going back decades

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GreyFoxx:

It's only gentoo that defaults to not installing it

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GreyFoxx:

most everything else installs it by default

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D-side:

7.3GB/hr

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D-side:

wow.

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rothgar:

D-side: you recording HD?

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GreyFoxx:

HD recording ?

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D-side:

GreyFoxx: yeah, via firewire

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GreyFoxx:

cool

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rothgar:

hope you have big hard drives

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D-side:

2(250GB)

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D-side:

raid0. :)

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frankrizzo:

argggg, tried to run "./configure --prefix=/usr" when compiling mythtv on fedora 5 and I get "gcc is unable to creat an executable file. If gc is a cross-compiler, use the --cross-compile option. C compiler test failed."

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Ross_C:

frankrizzo: do you have *ALL* of the rpms related to gcc/g++ installed?

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frankrizzo:

hmm, maybe I should do a "yum install gcc gcc-c++" just to be safe?

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frankrizzo:

cuz I am not sure

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rothgar:

I have a nvidia video card and I am using via xvmc but the playback is kinda skipping (not much but maybe 1 ever 4 sec). I was reading in the wiki that some people have better luck just enabling Xv. "While XvMC support (nVidia only) offloads some of the work to the video card, most people have reported better results with just using Xv acceleration."

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rothgar:

would I just turn xvmc back to standard and turn on XV picture controls?

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Ross_C:

frankrizzo: you'll need libgcc and probably a few others as well to have a fully functional gcc

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frankrizzo:

its installing binutils, glibc-devel, glib-headers, libgomp, & libstdc++-devel as dependencies

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frankrizzo:

for gcc & gcc-c++

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frankrizzo:

i will install libgcc as well after and give it a go

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tracy:

how does mythfilldatabase match what myth scanned to what gets downloaded from zap2it?

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rothgar:

tracy: my understanding is when you scan channels it will store all the information in a channels.conf file with channel name (KTTV,KDOC,etc), channel ID (a numerical value), and some other information that I don't understand. from there it looks up that information on zap2it and if it successfully tuned the channel it will download the information

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rothgar:

I could be wrong though cause I am not all that great with the workings of mythtv

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rothgar:

you can also import channels.conf files

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rothgar:

you can see what they look like http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Working_QAM_cable_layout

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rothgar:

I am working on my own because my channel information doesn't all download from zap2it

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rothgar:

but I am still learning myself

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frankrizzo:

Ross_C, the last update did a trick

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frankrizzo:

i am waiting for it to make now

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tracy:

rothgar: thanks, i'm having problems with zap2it too

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eidolon:

hmm. extending the zap2it subscription was trivial. wonder why i've been putting it off.

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frankrizzo:

aw crap, "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt collect2:ld returned 1 exit status make[2] *** [libmythavcodex-0.20.so.20.0.20.0] error 1 and so forth"

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rothgar:

tracy: are you using cable or OTA?

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eidolon:

how does mythfilldatabase run? cron job? or from within mythbackend automatically?

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eidolon:

i want to re-trigger it.

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GreyFoxx:

eidolon: Either

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GreyFoxx:

Depends on your config

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GreyFoxx:

you can cron it, or have myth run it

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GreyFoxx:

eitherway you can still run it from the commandline if needed

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eidolon:

okay, as 'mythtv' i assume...

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eidolon:

my schedules were completely empty, i just renewed my zap2it subscription.

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rfergu:

Is draft N wireless fast enough to send HDTV to a hard disk in another room?

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GreyFoxx:

really doesn't matter as long as mysql.txt is available for the user

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frankrizzo:

I found someone with a similar error on an older version of Myth on Debian, but there is no suggested solution

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D-side:

rfergu: i'm having good luck with just G.

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GreyFoxx:

but generally whatever using mythbackend runs as

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rfergu:

Nice!

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D-side:

rfergu: but truth be told, i'm amazed. :)

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** eidolon tries it. **

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frankrizzo:

i installed qt-devel

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rfergu:

hehe

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rothgar:

D-side: what router are you using? my g is having problems

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rothgar:

I think I am going to move my AP closer to the computer

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eidolon:

2006-11–19 23:02:02.953 DataDirect: Your subscription expires on 02/19/07 21:55:39

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** GreyFoxx heads to bed **

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eidolon:

wootie.

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** eidolon watches. **

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D-side:

rothgar: its just an AP, not a router also.

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rothgar:

hmm, what brand?

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rothgar:

I am up for getting a new one if mine doesn't work

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rothgar:

and are you using a usb wifi adapter or pci in the frontend?

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D-side:

Asus.

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D-side:

my setup is more complicated than that. :)

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rothgar:

haha

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D-side:

the backend is on a wired network segment

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D-side:

the frontend is on a wired network segment, but they're not wired together

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D-side:

i'm using two APs to bridge the two rooms.

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rothgar:

I c

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D-side:

and i lied, its not an asus, its a piece of shit airlink101

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D-side:

if i remember right, Fry's house brand.

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rothgar:

haha, well then my dlink should easily be able to do HD

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rothgar:

maybe it isn't my wireless that is crapping out and just my proc on my frontend

[04:07:45]

rothgar:

what are your computers? I have a p4 3.4 512mb ram for the backend and a p4 2.4 256mb ram for the frontend.

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rothgar:

but my hd doesn't play well at all on the frontend

[04:09:33]

D-side:

backend is an amd 3800+ X2, frontend is a mac mini.

[04:10:38]

rothgar:

damn, the mini plays HD

[04:10:52]

rothgar:

there has to be something wrong with what I am doing

[04:11:16]

rothgar:

or did you build myth on the frontend or install a package?

[04:11:40]

tracy:

rothgar: i am doing OTA HD

[04:12:06]

rothgar:

tracy: me too, where are you located? I wonder if it is something just with OTA right now

[04:12:15]

frankrizzo:

Ross_C, are you still there?

[04:12:16]

tracy:

just cleared all tuner cards, and started from the begining, doing a mythfilldatabase --refresh-all

[04:12:32]

tracy:

rothgar: charlotte,nc

[04:12:39]

rothgar:

I also checked to have myth scan for the OTA program info and that got a few channels but the info was wrong

[04:13:10]

tracy:

yes i tried that, didnt work

[04:13:24]

rothgar:

hmmm, at least I know it is not just me

[04:13:28]

rothgar:

but it is really frustrating

[04:13:48]

tracy:

now i tried scanning and keeping the channels like 3.1 instead of 3_1

[04:14:17]

tracy:

i got one to work by going into the channel setup in mythweb

[04:14:31]

tracy:

then going to the xmltvid column

[04:14:39]

rothgar:

are you having the scan do minimal updates? or delete?

[04:14:53]

tracy:

then going to www.zap2it.com and finding the same chanel

[04:15:12]

tracy:

then looking at the url and getting the xmltvid from the url

[04:15:23]

tracy:

then punching it in mythweb

[04:15:24]

rothgar:

woah, you lost me

[04:15:36]

rothgar:

I am on my mythweb right now

[04:15:56]

tracy:

click settings icon on top

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[04:16:08]

rothgar:

k

[04:16:16]

tracy:

then channel setup

[04:16:31]

rothgar:

what version are you using?

[04:16:37]

tracy:

0.20

[04:17:00]

rothgar:

I don't have channel setup, I have mythweb session settings, mythtv global defaults, mythtv channel info, mythtv key bindings, and mythtv settings table

[04:17:07]

rothgar:

I am using 0.20 too

[04:17:21]

tracy:

MythTV channel info

[04:17:27]

rothgar:

k

[04:18:12]

tracy:

then i found my HD stuff, but it does not have an xmltvid

[04:18:20]

Vantage13:

I seem to be having small problem with one of my tuner cards (PVR-150). I have it set to S-video, but every now and again I switch to it and it's no longer on S-video but "Tuner" (not Tuner1, but just "Tuner") and I have to go through mythtv-setup to change it back. Any idea why this might happen?

[04:18:24]

rothgar:

ya, mine doesn't either

[04:19:05]

tracy:

so rothgar, to get that xmltvid u have to go to normal www.zap2it.com and find the same channel

[04:19:29]

rothgar:

and then just punch it in?

[04:19:35]

tracy:

then when u hover over the channel, look at the url

[04:19:41]

kormoc:

So who here has used the stats module in mythweb?

[04:19:52]

tracy:

the stnNum=

[04:20:12]

tracy:

the number after that is the xmltvid number

[04:20:36]

tracy:

i punched that in and saved it and did a mythfilldatabase and THAT channel worked

[04:20:41]

rothgar:

ok, when I go to my listings in zap2it I don't see stnNum=

[04:21:01]

tracy:

did u go to www.zap2it.com not labs

[04:21:07]

rothgar:

ya, that is where I am

[04:21:24]

rothgar:

then do I go to tv?

[04:21:37]

tracy:

http://tvlistings5.zap2it.com/tvlistings/Grid . . . d=PC%3a28105

[04:21:45]

tracy:

check that is my one for my zip

[04:22:01]

tracy:

brb

[04:22:09]

rothgar:

ok, (it actually opened up for my zip cause I think I have a cookie set)

[04:22:20]

rothgar:

oh, I see it

[04:22:23]

rothgar:

I will give it a shot

[04:23:17]

xylo:

anyone have any experience with a bt848 card?

[04:23:49]

kormoc:

I used to own one

[04:25:40]

xylo:

I'm having a hard time getting the audio working on mine. Do you know what the audio device in mythsetup should be? Mine is currently set to /dev/dsp

[04:26:02]

kormoc:

well, if it's routed though your sound card, then yeah

[04:26:20]

frankrizzo:

kormoc, so I am sure you are sick of me, but I am getting an error when I type "make", so i went through the link you sent me again and under the "QT libraries and binaries" section GT is not under the $PATH and not QTDIR is echoed back at all

[04:26:27]

kormoc:

of course, you need to set it to capture the corrrect channel and all that jazz

[04:26:41]

frankrizzo:

I have no ideas how to actually resolve this, nor do I know if its actually at the root of my problem

[04:26:55]

kormoc:

frankrizzo, you might just need the qt-devel packages or similar

[04:27:03]

frankrizzo:

i installed those

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frankrizzo:

yum install qt-devel

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eidolon:

2006-11–19 23:20:18.428 mythfilldatabase run complete.

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eidolon:

hooray!

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kormoc:

well, I don't know ubuntu well enough to sudgest where to go next, sorry

[04:27:43]

xylo:

yeah its going to the cd input right now. I can get the line out audio by unmuting, but no audio from within mythtv.

[04:27:56]

frankrizzo:

alright, thanks anyways

[04:28:01]

kormoc:

xylo, do you have the card set to capture via the cd input?

[04:28:10]

frankrizzo:

im using fedora if that makes any difference....

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kormoc:

heh, I don't know fedora ether :P

[04:29:44]

frankrizzo:

so my gamble did not pay off here.....

[04:30:03]

frankrizzo:

trying to compile it to fix my problems

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rothgar:

tracy: entering the xmltvid didn't work for my channels

[04:30:36]

rothgar:

I ran mythfilldatabase but it didn't pull down the info still

[04:30:46]

rothgar:

maybe I will scan my channels again or something

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xylo:

kormoc, I beleive so. in alsamixer there is a CAPTUR for CD.

[04:31:27]

kormoc:

xylo, and you have the capture volume unmuted in there?

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xylo:

it's muted. If I unmute it then I get audio even if myth is not running

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kormoc:

there's two capture's

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kormoc:

there's the playback capture volume, which when it is unmuted you'd hear it

[04:36:47]

kormoc:

and the recorded capture volume, which needs to be unmuted and up

[04:37:05]

kormoc:

in alsamixer, f2 is playback, f3 is capture settings iirc

[04:37:13]

kormoc:

you want capture muted in f2 and unmuted in f3

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xylo:

Ah ok, I'll give that a try

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frankrizzo:

hmm, there only seems to be one package associated with qt, and that is qt-devel

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frankrizzo:

kormoc, do you know how to set enviromental variables?

[04:41:19]

kormoc:

export QTDIR='/path/to/qt/dir'

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rothgar:

tracy you back yet?

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frankrizzo:

thanks, that worked

[04:45:53]

frankrizzo:

didnt fix the overall problem, but now I have an enviromental variable set

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frankrizzo:

for whatever its worth

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tracy:

rothgar: yes

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rothgar:

did you get it to work for more channels?

[04:48:18]

tracy:

nope, i am trying again, it only forked on the first one

[04:48:23]

tracy:

worked

[04:48:36]

rothgar:

I entered the info for quite a few of my channels but after running mythfilldatabase it didn't get any more info

[04:48:55]

tracy:

let me go find the post, i may have left a step out

[04:50:07]

tracy:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . tvid;#236398

[04:50:13]

tracy:

that is one of them

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rothgar:

ok, thanks

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tracy:

maybe it was because i hit 'E' when watching live tv

[04:52:13]

rothgar:

hmm, I will try

[04:52:16]

tracy:

maybe i should try that again

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tracy:

i did once, then it totally hung my mythtv

[04:52:55]

tracy:

i killed it and then sometime later did a mythfilldatabase

[04:53:13]

tracy:

so it could be that the 'E' did it and i didn't realise it

[04:53:34]

tracy:

let me know, i am now remote so i cannot watch livetv

[04:53:54]

rothgar:

I just pushed E while watching live tv and then just hit ok (I double checked the ID and it was correct)

[04:54:06]

rothgar:

then I went to the guide and it still had no info

[04:54:24]

rothgar:

I am going to run mythfilldatabase now

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kslater:

say you had a remote fe and you wanted to upgrade it to a slave be / fe combo. Is that process detailed somewhere?

[04:54:55]

rothgar:

should the backend be running? or does it matter?

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tracy:

ive done so many different things, but i dont think it matters that it is running

[04:56:07]

rothgar:

I ran it and it still just has unknown :-/

[04:57:11]

kormoc:

So who here has used the stats module in mythweb?

[04:58:24]

frankrizzo:

havnt even gotten mythweb running

[04:58:30]

frankrizzo:

does it look useful?

[04:58:51]

kormoc:

Sure, I wrote it, I'm just updating it a bit and wondered if people had ideas for new stats

[04:59:27]

frankrizzo:

i wish I could give you feedback :-)

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tracy:

kormoc: is that the last option on the menu?

[05:00:03]

tracy:

backend status?

[05:00:08]

kormoc:

nah

[05:00:12]

kormoc:

Statistics

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tracy:

oh, i dont have that for some reason

[05:01:01]

kormoc:

it's new in 0.20

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tracy:

i have a new 0.20, but it probably didnt install properly, FC6 using atrpms to upgrade

[05:02:07]

** tracy wonders what is missing **

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kormoc:

huh, strange

[05:02:50]

kormoc:

it's between the Status and the Logs menu items on the splash screen

[05:03:08]

kormoc:

can you see if you have a modules/stats in your mythweb directory?

[05:03:16]

tracy:

ohhh

[05:03:44]

tracy:

i never look at the splash screen, just the menu bar across top

[05:03:50]

tracy:

i got it now

[05:03:52]

rothgar:

kormoc, you are the one who does the status in mythweb?

[05:04:08]

kormoc:

the Statistics, aye

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daveyiv:

I have the .htaccess file and htdigest files created for Mythweb, but it just will not let me access the site from outside my LAN, what could be the problem?

[05:04:50]

rothgar:

statistics or backend status? (I do not find statistics in my mythweb)

[05:05:02]

rothgar:

oh wait

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rothgar:

there it is

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tracy:

rothgar: i also had not seen it... kormoc, i cannot think of much else

[05:05:53]

rothgar:

how is that different from status?

[05:06:11]

rothgar:

like can you give a example of what will be under recording statistics?

[05:06:28]

rothgar:

like, what days do you record shows?

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kormoc:

the top ten recorded shows, or the top ten recorded channels

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tracy:

how much total disk you would have consumed

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rothgar:

tracy: isn't that under status?

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kormoc:

huh, I wonder if I can get that

[05:07:32]

kormoc:

rothgar, this is historic data

[05:08:01]

rothgar:

hmm, most recorded show, most recorded day...etc

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kormoc:

most recorded show is already in there, just set the timespan to all

[05:08:49]

rothgar:

oh, ok

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frankrizzo:

i already know my stats, walker texas ranger is number 1 through 10

[05:09:08]

rothgar:

(I didn't actually click to view the stats

[05:09:14]

frankrizzo:

i built myth tv pretty much to just record that show, it is so bad I enjoy watching it

[05:09:31]

rothgar:

lol @ frankrizzo

[05:09:52]

frankrizzo:

ever seen the the clips Conan used to play?

[05:10:03]

tracy:

kormoc: how much it saved you in tivo fees ;)

[05:10:20]

** kormoc laughs **

[05:10:30]

kormoc:

I'm adding in running time span right now

[05:10:57]

kslater:

is there a tool that will look at an MPEG file and give the info about the capture res, etc?

[05:11:09]

rothgar:

kormoc: most watched recording I think might be kinda cool

[05:11:22]

kormoc:

yeah

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kormoc:

watched stats are a planned addition, but I need to find out what the status flag is for it

[05:12:27]

rothgar:

can you incorporate other plugins too? like mythdvd, mytharchive

[05:12:48]

rothgar:

cause most watched movie, and a history showing when you archived certain shows would be cool

[05:16:43]

frankrizzo:

hmm, did a make on qt

[05:16:48]

frankrizzo:

this is taking a long long time

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tracy:

rothgar: if u figure out anything, please leave me a pvt. i'm giving up for the night

[05:29:35]

rothgar:

ok, I think I am done trying for the night though

[05:29:53]

rothgar:

I am going to let it run the automatic fill database and see if it has info tomorrow or something

[05:30:08]

tracy:

im trying one more thing, adding the xmltvid to the channel editor

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rothgar:

which channel editor?

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rothgar:

in mythtv-setup?

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tracy:

stop backend, mythtvsetup, startbackend and then mythfilldatabse

[05:31:24]

rothgar:

ok, let me know how that works, I am going to make sure my cron daily job is set up

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tracy:

nope didnt work :(

[05:33:05]

tracy:

tomorrow is another day

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rothgar:

so you still can't get all your info right?

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rothgar:

just some channels?

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tracy:

i have 2 tuner cards

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tracy:

one using cable, that works

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tracy:

and new hdtv ota that does not

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rothgar:

regular SD cable?

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tracy:

yip

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tracy:

pvr150

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rothgar:

ok, then your setup is just like mine will be

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rothgar:

hopefully this OTA hd stuff will work out

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tracy:

for the sd cable, i have program info

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rothgar:

I will try a couple of things from work tomorrow

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rothgar:

and all the sd cable had xmltvid's?

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tracy:

the ota hd plays fine in my computer, just no program data

[05:34:53]

tracy:

yes

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tracy:

and has had for about a year

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anxt:

gonna try that channel icon thingy now

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anxt:

just to bling up my box

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anxt:

boex*

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anxt:

boxen**

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defaultro:

evening guys. Anyone has a copy of ddr1394 tar.gz file?

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kraut:

moin

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wireddd:

for whatever reason I can't get the mythtv script for xbmc to connect to the mysql server on my mythtv

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anxt:

xbmc plkays myth stuff?

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anxt:

wow

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anxt:

i should give my dad a myth xbox for christiams

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anxt:

is myth xbox hard to set up?

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wireddd:

i'll let you know if I get it working...

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anxt:

did you softmod?

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wireddd:

anyone that uses the mythtv script for xbmc around?

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Mattwj2005:

hey guys :)

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Mattwj2005:

I just bought a 80 GB hd

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Mattwj2005:

well 80 GB Video iPod that is :)

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jarango:

I need help configuring mythweb. I am not familiar with apache

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Mattwj2005:

I am not sure if I'll be much help

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Mattwj2005:

I use Knoppmyth

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Mattwj2005:

what is going on?

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jarango:

<Mattwj2005>: Have you used mythweb ?

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Mattwj2005:

yeah Knoppmyth comes with it

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Mattwj2005:

I use it all the time

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jarango:

<Mattwj2005>: I don't know how to configure it once it is installed

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Mattwj2005:

you mean how to add programs to be recorded?

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xris:

jarango: readme covers most of what you need.

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Mattwj2005:

hey xirs :)

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jarango:

<xris>: I read it but I don't understand apache conf

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jarango:

By default, it does not give me access

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jarango:

I don't know what needs to be changed in the htaccess file, or whatelse needs to be done

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jarango:

I could not understand the README instructions

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jarango:

this is what I get on the browser: Database Access Denied

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jarango:

You are most likely receiving this message because you

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jarango:

have failed to configure mythweb's database login info.

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jarango:

Please see .htaccess for instructions.

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xris:

jarango: the readme says to put that little config snipped somewhere that apache can load it (/etc/http/conf/httpd.conf is where it is in fedora, or /etc/httpd/conf.d/mythweb.conf if you have a conf.d directory)

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jarango:

xris: I will check, thanks

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xris:

jarango: I'm headed to sleep now, but if you're still having trouble tomorrow, I'll help you the rest of the way.

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jarango:

what do I need to do after that ?

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xris:

the readme covers what you need to do to get things configured. but for most distros, you just need that conf tweak and then edit the db variables/etc in .htaccess

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wireddd:

how much ram does mythfrontend normally need?

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wireddd:

because it is using 120mb and allocating 200mb just sitting at the main menu

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wireddd:

anyone around?

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rtsai:

wireddd: mine is sitting on 261MB

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wireddd:

what could it possibly need that much ram for?

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rtsai:

why does it matter?

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wireddd:

because it makes my computer start swapping

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rtsai:

get more ram

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wireddd:

for the frontend?

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rtsai:

that is what you are complaining about, isn't it?

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rtsai:

Xorg uses 111MB

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wireddd:

there is no reason why myth should need 120MB by its self

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wireddd:

mythfrontend rathar

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wireddd:

rather

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rtsai:

why shouldn't it?

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wireddd:

because its not complicated enough to justtify it

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rtsai:

yet another vague assertion

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rtsai:

if it's not complicated, then you should feel free to fix it

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wireddd:

rtsai, what could the frontend possibly use that much memory for?

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Mattwj2005:

hey guys :)

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wireddd:

ok, so mythfrontend uses 1/2 as much memory when I lower the resolution from 1280x1024 to 640x480

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Mattwj2005:

I would guess 1/4

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Mattwj2005:

if that is true

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wireddd:

and xorg stays at around 255mb instead of going up to 600mb

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wireddd:

although when I change my appearance settings, mythfrontend crashes xorg

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juski:

using the 3d toys then?

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wireddd:

nope, using qt to render

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juski:

no. a re you using the 3d desktop toys?

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juski:

the opengl renderer has f all to do with 3d

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wireddd:

juski, I don't have opengl at all

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juski:

no compiz etc then?

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wireddd:

nope

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wireddd:

so why is mythfrontend's memory usage tied so directly to its resolution

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juski:

because the icons etc are scaled & kept in memory

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wireddd:

is there a skin without graphics?

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wireddd:

icons are not worth 160mb of ram

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juski:

they are NOT skins

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wireddd:

themes, whatever

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juski:

why you so concerned about ram usage? you using a shitty xbox?

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juski:

nobody ever said that it's be tolerable on the xbox – it _works_ and that's about it

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wireddd:

i'm not running it on an xbox

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wireddd:

im running it on my desktop

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juski:

under gnome or kde?

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wireddd:

kde

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juski:

heh

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wireddd:

its pretty bad when one program uses 2x the amount that all of kde uses

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juski:

well, when I was playing around on a machine with 128MB RAM & no swap, mythfrontend ran fine

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juski:

so something is obviously very wrong with your setup

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wireddd:

at what resolution though?

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juski:

800x600#

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wireddd:

at 320x240 mythfrontend uses ~ 58mb, at 640x480 mythfrontend uses ~ 65mb at 1280x1024 (which is native for this lcd) mythfrontend uses ~150mb

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juski:

so what?

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juski:

find a less graphically intensive theme

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juski:

or make your own

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wireddd:

when I have some time, I am going to play around with it

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visit0r:

hmm interesting... might want to use some quick compression for the in-memory theme components too...

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wireddd:

ok I am applying my new appearance settings, so it is going to make xorg restart...

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wireddd:

like clockwork

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qu0zl:

wireddd, you do understand that if xorg is crashing it's xorg or your xorg drivers fault right? A client app should not be able to make xorg crash

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qu0zl:

you should ask the xorg list about it if you want it fixed. I'm not sure what debugging info they'll need from you though. perhaps a backtrace as well at the xorg log

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wireddd:

i'm looking into why right now

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ivor_:

are you sure xorg is crashing?

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wireddd:

well, its at least restarting

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wireddd:

kicks me all the way out to kdm

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ivor:

is kdm starting a full kde session or just mythfrontend?

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wireddd:

a full session

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ivor:

have you got another machine you can ssh in from?

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wireddd:

yeah

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ivor:

in that case start X from that machine and see what gets dumped out.

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wireddd:

wow, it is everytime I close mythfrontend also

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wireddd:

I had the glx extension loaded, even though nothing was using it. mythfrontend somehow managed to ask it to do something which in turn caused xorg to crash

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wireddd:

I guess

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wireddd:

because it isn't crashing now

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wireddd:

that also seemed to cut down on the memory usage

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wireddd:

by ~60 mb at 1280x1024

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quicksilver:

well that doesn' mean anything, probably

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quicksilver:

since it counts the video ram it is mapping

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quicksilver:

and glx is mapping more ram for texture

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wireddd:

it was gant

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wireddd:

all things being equal (1280x1024 no gl) gant uses 2x the amount of memory as blue

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wireddd:

i'm going to have to have a go at making a theme that uses the least amount of ram possible

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Inkubot:

good morning :)

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wireddd:

is there a mythtv theme somewhere that uses no images?

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Saviq:

wireddd: last time I've seen You've said that You're going to make one yourself ;]

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wireddd:

i'm playing around with it...

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Inkubot:

wireddd i need to do a theme.. where you get info for this ?

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Inkubot:

it's hard ?

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Mattwj2005:

people in the room sweet! :)

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Mattwj2005:

hey everyone

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Inkubot:

hallo :)

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Mattwj2005:

anyone transcode Mythtv to a video iPod? :)

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wireddd:

Inkubot, there is some info on the wiki

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imperfect-:

I think there's a script to do it to a podcast, isn't there?

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imperfect-:

or at least to H264

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Mattwj2005:

yeah I heard about that

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Mattwj2005:

anyone try that?

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Mattwj2005:

:)

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Mattwj2005:

I got the 80 GB ;)

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imperfect-:

I got the 60

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imperfect-:

I never use it.

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Mattwj2005:

really?

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Mattwj2005:

why not?

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imperfect-:

Really

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imperfect-:

;)

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imperfect-:

UHm

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imperfect-:

Turns out my HDTV and/or 19inch wide screen LCD looks better

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imperfect-:

and it also turns out that when I'm in the mood for media I'm at home

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imperfect-:

;)

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Mattwj2005:

oh okay

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wireddd:

I sold my ipod, I had a gmini 400 anyway

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Mattwj2005:

oh okay....yeah my family lives 3 hours away....if nothing else I'll you the music for that

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Mattwj2005:

*I'll use

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Mattwj2005:

imperfect did you use the video cables for that?

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Mattwj2005:

how was that?

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imperfect-:

For what?

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imperfect-:

No, I watch the videos on my TV/Monitor

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imperfect-:

Never on my iPod

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Mattwj2005:

oh okay

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imperfect-:

the only time I've used my ipod for videos is when I was driving home from Toronto one time last year

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Mattwj2005:

can't you hookup a iPod to the tv

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imperfect-:

I watched movies where my spedometer was ;)

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Mattwj2005:

lol

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Mattwj2005:

that is awful :P

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imperfect-:

Yeah, but it's composite /Svideo methinks

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imperfect-:

http://www.myth2ipod.com/myth2ipod.html

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imperfect-:

That looks like what i was talking about

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weevil:

afternoon :(

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Mattwj2005:

afternoon?

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Mattwj2005:

slow Monday?

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weevil:

dunno about slow

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weevil:

but yeah it's monday alright

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Mattwj2005:

this is the weekend for me

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Mattwj2005:

I work weekends/nights

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Mattwj2005:

Mondays are rough though

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weevil:

today even moreso

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weevil:

anyway.. shit happens

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Mattwj2005:

weevil where are you from? :)

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Mattwj2005:

I am from Minneapolis

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wireddd:

ok I am down to 40mb of memory

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imperfect-:

It's Wednesday for me!

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imperfect-:

woot!

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wireddd:

just by removing images from the theme

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Mattwj2005:

I only work 2 days this week :)

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Mattwj2005:

12 hour shifts though

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wireddd:

imperfect-, how is it wed. for you?

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Mattwj2005:

I am guessing he means middle of the week for him

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wireddd:

I hope so, otherwise he is going crazy

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imperfect-:

Thanksgiving

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imperfect-:

get a 4 day weekend

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imperfect-:

Friday is Wednesdmy weekend

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wireddd:

I am not working at all this week

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wireddd:

I think I like the way myhtcenter looks after I stripped out all of the images

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wireddd:

err mythcenter

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wireddd:

very minimalist

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Mattwj2005:

I am interested in how this myth2ipod will work

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imperfect-:

It's a userjob

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imperfect-:

You do whatever, run userjob, subscribe to podcast, the end.

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Mattwj2005:

how do you keep the rss from spread over the Internet?

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Mattwj2005:

that won't be good

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imperfect-:

well.

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imperfect-:

I'd say subscrive to a local private ip webserver

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imperfect-:

subscribe too

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Mattwj2005:

oh okay sounds good :)

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fryfrog:

Now to resolve my one final issue: When I moved from Gentoo -> Ubuntu, I used a db snapshot that was about a day old, so there are files in my recordings dir that have no db entry, and there are db entries with no files. I would like to get them in sync, but when i delete a show with no file, it says "couldn't find file blah, not remvoing metadata from db"

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Inkubot:

i need to stream mythweather

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Dagmar:

Good luck with that

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Dagmar:

smart people would just go to www.wunderground.com

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Inkubot:

:D

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Inkubot:

but i need to stream mythweather

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Mattwj2005:

why do you need to stream it?

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Mattwj2005:

:-?

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Dagmar:

1. You don't "need" to/

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Dagmar:

2. Good luck researching that.

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Inkubot:

for a weather channel

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Dagmar:

It doesn't stream.

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Inkubot:

:(

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Inkubot:

bad news then

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Inkubot:

damn!

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Mattwj2005:

8 am I should go to bed in a few minutes

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Mattwj2005:

working dang nights :)

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otwin:

fryfrog: use touch to create empty files with the correct name so myth won't complain about the missing recordings

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Mattwj2005:

goodnight everyone :)

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fryfrog:

otwin: thanks, i'll try that

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euphobot:

morning

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euphobot:

while I was out of town my mythfilldatabase seems to have had a problem. and now manually running mythfilldatabase leaves no program info

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seth|laptop:

ack, zap2it labs changed their HD OTA channel numbers, had to re-do my entire lineup.

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euphobot:

zap2it is the source

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seth|laptop:

TG for the knoppmyth forums. Forums are cool 8)

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euphobot:

tg?

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seth|laptop:

Thank Goodness

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euphobot:

how do I "re-do lineup"

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weevil:

nothing like asking a good question

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seth|laptop:

log into their site, delete exiusting

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seth|laptop:

ack existing, and create a new one

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D-side:

meh. i don't want to have to run cable.

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seth|laptop:

I don't know it looks kinda screwy though, for example before I had 43_1 as fox 43 and 43_2 as the tube network, now they both say 57, I am wondering how I am going to switch between the 2, perhaps it is an error on zap2it's side. I can only wait until I get home tonight to check it

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jduggan:

fryfrog: i've had that error before.. check the mythbackend log for which file it tries delete.. normally gives full location/filename then just 'touch location/to/filename' and next time round it deletes it and removes metadata

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imperfect-:

Man

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imperfect-:

This myth2ipod thing works pretty well ;)

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imperfect-:

I wonder how it'll do on HDTV content ;)

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D-side:

whats myth2ipod? standalone or part of nuvexport?

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D-side:

wow someone even bought a domain for it? heh.

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D-side:

made on a mac. now we're talkin.

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Chicago:

What's going on here in line #400... I'm compiling from SVN and seem to fail. I posted my ./configure and compile-log. Can somebody take a look at lines 400++,please http://pastebin.ca/253208

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asphy:

hey guys, erm, n00b question here before i go ahead and put mythtv on.. will it run perfectly fine without a capture card? just looking for a nice interface that the other half can use to play vids/her music/baby photos etc ;)

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Chicago:

asphy: I have had problems without a capture card... sometimes mythtv just unexpectedly quits... but maybe others have success.

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qu0zl:

Chicago, looks like you're missing a qt dev package to me

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qu0zl:

find the package for your distro that has those files and install it

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Chicago:

qu0zl: I'll check into that. My system uses gentoo and so I'll try and emerge the gentoo-dev pack

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qu0zl:

it may be qt-dev or kde-dev or something like that too

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asphy:

thanks Chicago, much appreciated. i'll probably grab a cheapo card on payday anyhow, so not the end of the world if i have to wait a week.

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Chicago:

Hopefully the SVN is nicer than that gentoo ebuild.

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Chicago:

asphy: Freevo works fine without a capture card.

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qu0zl:

Chicago, even the svn version will still need those header files installed. So you'll need to find what package provides them either way

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qu0zl:

ahhh, sorry i see this is with the svn version already. Never mind :)

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asphy:

brilliant, i'll have a looksie :) thanks for your help o/

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RyeBrye:

So since Fedora runs on the PS3 – how long until someone gets the PS3 to work as a MythFrontend? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnAn3h7kTM4

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RyeBrye:

I

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RyeBrye:

I'll take donations and volunteer to get it working :)

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Dagmar:

That depends on when it becomes cheap enough that doing so isn't farking stupid

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RyeBrye:

Yeah. Hence the "donations" part :)

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RyeBrye:

I would imagine that if someone already HAD a PS3 – then the cost of the machine would be a sunk cost

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asphy:

must admit, thats probably the cleverest way of blagging a free ps3 i've ever seen...

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asphy:

heh :)

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RyeBrye:

and the marginal cost to get MythFrontend to work on it would just be time

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Dagmar:

I think we've had quite enough moral decay surrounding the PS3

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Dagmar:

Franky, I'm glad that Nintendo will now have bragging rights that their release weekend they sold almost twice as many units as Sony did.

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Dagmar:

...because Nintendo actually remembers they're supposed to get devices to stores to sell them rather than just generate hype.

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RyeBrye:

I'm neutral on the console war part – I just see a box running linux and wonder if it would be able to handle MythTV :) if it can, I might want to go spend $200 and get one

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Dagmar:

I hear some stores even still have a few *left* this morning

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RyeBrye:

(The $200 would be for a Glock)

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Chicago:

qu0zl: There isn't really a kde-dev or qt-dev on Gentoo. I'm emerging the qt-embedded package now. Would you think that might help? I noticed that line #403 where the qdom.h is the file it fails on is in my harddrive already in 3 places. /usr/include/qt4/Qt/qdom.h /usr/include/qt4/QtXml/qdom.h /usr/qt/3/include/qdom.h

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seth|laptop:

I didn't think mythv would build against qt4

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maniacxs:

hi, i am trying to connect to the mythtv server to listen music with a pocket pc. Is there something to configure at server side?

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Chicago:

seth|laptop: Well, I don't know all the details. My Gentoo has been on QT-4 for a while... and the mythtv ebuilds all usually compiled and worked nicely. I'm working on testing direct from SVN now.

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RyeBrye:

Can pocket PC listen to daap shares? (like iTunes?)

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Chicago:

seth|laptop: I had an error log. http://pastebin.ca/253208

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Dagmar:

Well, the real question is why do you expect SVN head to compile?

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Chicago:

Dagmar: SVN head usually compiles fine for me. I

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Dagmar:

"usually".

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Chicago:

Dagmar: Besides... same issue for me compiling stable branch.

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Dagmar:

It's not guaranteed to compile, and if it doesn't, you are kind of expected to fix it or not complain.

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seth|laptop:

Chicago: right , I got it to build with emerge, but Inever had any luck with source, this is on my sabayonlinux box, which is basically gentoo, prebuilt with beryl and xgl

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Dagmar:

So basically then the problem is that you've broken your development environment.

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Dagmar:

More Gentoo crackheadedness

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Chicago:

Well... I remember something about LD_LIBRARY_PATH or some other environment variable I had to set before I compiled SVN last time.

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Chicago:

Then everything compiled fine.

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maniacxs:

RyeBrye: what are daap shares?

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maniacxs:

isn't it only upnp?

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Dagmar:

Chicago: So basically what you're saying is that you don't know what you're doing.

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Chicago:

Dagmar: You know... I have an idea, but it's not clear.

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Dagmar:

I think perhaps the path "/!/mythTV" a number of people would find rather alarming

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Chicago:

Dagmar: Yeah... but I'm not having troubles managing the ! as a path in any of my other configurations.

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Dagmar:

Much like when one sees a derelict having an argument with a dumpster that will soon escalate into violence, seeing that you're using "!" as a directory name tells me it's time to just quietly walk away.

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Chicago:

Well thanks for your peculiar fear of special characters.

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Chicago:

Dagmar: The only real complication is that sometimes you can address it as /!/mythTV and othertimes as /!/mythTV.

[15:05:29]

** Dagmar hums with his fingers in his ears. **

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RyeBrye:

maniacxs: There is a project that is in the svn trunk that enables daap sharing called the mythfrontenddaemon (mfd) – daap shares are what iTunes uses to share music over a tnetwork

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maniacxs:

RyeBrye: thanks

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Defend:

why would you use ! as a dir ?

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Chicago:

Defend: bang shows up at the top of directory listings. bang is 1 character. bang is easy to type with one left hand.

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Dagmar:

If your top level directory is so large that it's hard to manage, someone should probably take root privs away from you.

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Defend:

that would drive me nuts

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Chicago:

So, you want to tease me for using ! as a dir name... or explain why I use it... or quit using it before you'll leave me alone about it?

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Defend:

why dont you make a non standard home dir then if you want it to be easyer to locate

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noct3rn:

What type of CPU utilization should I be seeing on Core 2 Duo E6600 (2.4) with XvMC/Bob for 1080i output ?

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Dagmar:

I dont' really care why you're using it. It's what most people would consider "a sign".

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qu0zl:

Chicago, i don't know what version of qt mythtv usually uses, but you're include path is using -I/usr/include/qt4, From there qtdom.h would be referenced by the path 'Qt/qdom.h' but from the qt3 include dir it would simply be ./qtdom.h

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qu0zl:

so check the line of your source code, and see what it's tryingto include

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Dagmar:

Deviating from normal configurations until you know, and I mean really, really know what you're doing with Linux, is just begging for new insoluble problems to crop up

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qu0zl:

the path may not be valid for qt4. if it's expecting the fileto be at ./qtdom.h but it's really at ./Qt/qtdom.h because it's version 4 not version 3 you're pointed at then that will stop it compiling

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Chicago:

Dagmar: Not really, I'm pretty efficient.

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Dagmar:

...and when someone does something like makes up a whole new top-level directory, there's probably even more "improvements" lurking in the shadows.

[15:11:41]

qu0zl:

if that's the problem then you may need to point it at the qt3 includes and libraries. I dunno what version it's meant for

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jams:

myth works with QT4? when did that happen?

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Dagmar:

More amusingly still is the lack of reading.

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qu0zl:

i don't think it does jams, that's the problem. but i'm not sure :)

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Chicago:

qu0zl: I think you're right about the qt3 includes. As I remember how I made the SVN compile last time, I believe I pointed the LD_LIBRARY_PATH somewhere different... ala qt3.

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Dagmar:

The HOWTO and the Wiki both are somewhat clear: "NOTE: MythTV DOES NOT WORK with Qt4."

[15:13:08]

qu0zl:

well your pastebin log definitely shows it using the qt4 include paths Chicago

[15:13:11]

qu0zl:

so there's the problem

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Chicago:

qu0zl: Yeah.

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** jams will ignore the ! **

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Chicago:

qu0zl: I'd like to try playing in just directFB and not compiling in X at all... have you seen that work nicely with gentoo?

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Dibblah:

No.

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Dibblah:

No no no.

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qu0zl:

i've never done anything with gentoo tbh

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Dibblah:

Don't go there.

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qu0zl:

Dibblah, seems optomistic about it though

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qu0zl:

:)

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Dagmar:

Gentoo user + crazy path names + trying to use Qt4 + expecting SVN head to compile ...

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Dibblah:

Down that road lies insanity.

[15:14:59]

qu0zl:

Chicago, what was wrong with the gentoo emerge btw, specific problems mean you need to compile from svn?

[15:15:09]

Dibblah:

X is easier, quicker, nicer, more supported,...

[15:15:46]

Dibblah:

And doesn't require your firstborn and a chicken to get working.

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Chicago:

qu0zl: Specifically there was some language issue with the mythtweb... I was getting "!NoTrans::" which are translation errors all over the place... I'm using english everywhere so that was just gay... I also wanted to test the responsiveness of myth using some custom gcc optimizations... so I figured leave the ebuild to the side and try from direct source.

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Dagmar:

More crazy configuration "specialness"

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qu0zl:

you can use custom gcc optomizations with emerges can't you? <-- no gentoo expert

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Dibblah:

Oh yay. Someone that uses "gay" that way. I'm going to butt out about now. No pun intended.

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Chicago:

Dibblah: Framebuffer stuff does kinda drive me nuts... but I think I already figured out which framebuffer driver to use on my hardware... I'm on a geforce 2 ultra... so I'm using the vesa-tng framebuffer console driver

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Dibblah:

The actual driver isn't the problem.

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qu0zl:

Chicago, X is pretty lightweight/speedy if you just use X and a simple window manager. Doubt framebuffer is worth the effort really

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Dibblah:

It's that noone uses FB.

[15:17:42]

Dibblah:

So you're on your own re support.

[15:18:01]

Dibblah:

Accelleration is literally non-existant in FB.

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D-side:

heh

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Chicago:

Dibblah: I can leave out directFB today because it's failed every other time before... I would like to try making it work in a nice configuration with the in-kernel nvidia framebuffer console driver... and then just never load X and need the GLX driver... maybe that way I'll see niceness.

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Dibblah:

Sure. When you manage it, post the patches to trac. Because I'm fairly sure the FB support is busted ATM.

[15:19:43]

Chicago:

Dibblah: First, I want to set it up in X... because I watch it in a 720x480 window while I'm working.

[15:21:43]

Dagmar:

nVidia framebuffer driver is damn near useless.

[15:21:46]

Dagmar:

Don't use it, period.

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Chicago:

Dagmar: nVidia framebuffer is about 3 times faster than vesa-tng.

[15:22:16]

Dagmar:

It is also broken.

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Dagmar:

It will break if you try to use the nVidia kernel driver.

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Chicago:

Dagmar: I think it's the tainted nvidia-glx driver that's 'broken'

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Dibblah:

Chicago: "DirectFB is still pretty broken, but I don't want it to be more broken than before [10782]." That's in the last commit to the DFB stuff.

[15:23:07]

Dagmar:

I think you're deluded.

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Dibblah:

I'd believe it.

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Dagmar:

You need to get these crazy made up ideas out of your head and do actual research

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Dagmar:

There is nothing fundamentally broken about the nVidia kernel driver because it's "tainted".

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Dibblah:

Dagmar: No need to get confrontational. Again.

[15:24:23]

Dagmar:

It's also very well documented why the two don't work together.

[15:24:39]

Dagmar:

Why not? If no one ever challenges these broken assumptions, he'll take them to his grave.

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qu0zl:

Chicago, for ease of use the tainted nvidia driver is the way to go tbh. There's also an opensource nvidia X driver you can use if you prefere, though it's slower.

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Dagmar:

Bogons should be destroyed, not conserved.

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Dibblah:

the opensource one AFAIK doesn't do XV scaling in hardware.

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Dibblah:

So is... Somewhat useless for Myth :)

[15:25:43]

qu0zl:

oh, i didnt realise it was that bad! i knew it didn't do xvmc anyway

[15:28:18]

Dagmar:

<Dagmar> It will break if you try to use the nVidia kernel driver.

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Dagmar:

<Chicago> Dagmar: I think it's the tainted nvidia-glx driver that's 'broken'

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Chicago:

Well, since I'm being challenged... my 'research' and basis for saying the in-kernel nvidia framebuffer console driver is 3 times faster than the vesa-tng framebuffer console driver came from a simple test. I basically built a kernel with 1600x1200 console and tried each of those two in-kernel framebuffer drivers... the nvidia driver scrolled lines 3 times faster than the vesa-tng driver.

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qu0zl:

Chicago, have you compared the in0kernel nvidia framebuffer to the X driver though?

[15:30:09]

qu0zl:

and if the framebuffer driver just doesn't work with mythtv then anything will be faster than it ;)

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Dagmar:

Typically, when someone does an experiment, the results need to bear upon the problem.

[15:31:07]

Dagmar:

WHatever speed the framebuffer driver runs at has nothing to do with the X driver unless you actually do something that, I dunno, *compares* the two

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Chicago:

qu0zl: No, because there is alot of overhead coming from X. The window manager I want to use is xfce. I think it would more easily let me run a mythtv and xmame with very little overhead.

[15:31:20]

Dagmar:

...and I actually I was trying to paste that to another channel to demonstrate bogon emissions

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qu0zl:

there isn't really that much overhead from X chicago, if you just run X and a window manager. no gnome/kde stack

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Dagmar:

You're complaining about overhead from X and you're not livid about MySQL?

[15:32:01]

Chicago:

yeah, kde usually... because my standard use of myth is as a window while i'm playing online

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qu0zl:

so use X and ratpoison or some other lightweight manager

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Chicago:

Dagmar: I did another experiment with the mysql... going back and forth between 3 and 4... trying each with utf8 vs. latin1 english... and I landed on mysql 4 without utf8... I can deal with its speed. It seems much faster now than it was for the last 4 months.

[15:33:00]

Dagmar:

So you're normally using KDE, but you're trying to compile Myth to use framebuffer because X is too much of a resource problem for you

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Dagmar:

You are going into my ignore list right now before whatever has broken your mind can possibly spread and damage mine.

[15:33:33]

Chicago:

Dagmar: Yeah, because the framebuffers never work right for me... and I want to make them work.

[15:33:51]

Dagmar:

Dibblah was pretty clear in that they do *not* work

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Chicago:

I know.

[15:34:34]

Dagmar:

But hey, clearly the cluons are just running from the sight of you

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Chicago:

I already said I just want to make it work in X first... because right now I can't watch TV... and this week TV Land is doing a Star Trek marathon... its really pissing me off that I am struggling with recompiling through myth again so I can watch Spock and Kirk... know what I mean?

[15:36:11]

jduggan:

so i've a .dat file from a vcd anyone know how i can change this into a .avi file?

[15:36:31]

Dagmar:

Some people would just leverage some knowledge and just use the character set that only involves one byte per character, instead of even considering using the one that can use two or more and doubles the disk space needed.

[15:36:52]

Chicago:

Dagmar: sometimes even 3 bytes per character!

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Dagmar:

jduggan: Typically you just use transcode on an entirely different file

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jduggan:

Dagmar: what do you mean an entirely different file?

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Dagmar:

jduggan: ...which I was under the impression was generally shown as a vob file, but it's been awhlie since I've bothered.

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Dagmar:

Generally if I have to rip a DVD, I just stick it in the cheap-ass DVD player I have that will play all media and encode it using the s-video input

[15:38:23]

D-side:

er

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D-side:

what?

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Dagmar:

There's some kung fu classics floating around that are entirely legit, but on media that looks like the substrate was sprayed on with a cheap airbrush and all my burners refuse to have anything to do with it

[15:38:49]

D-side:

wow.

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Dagmar:

...but I can stick it in the $30 DVD player and it'll play fine.

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weevil:

rofl

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Dagmar:

I've got like three of Jackie Chan's first films, and the Vincent Price classic, "House On Haunted Hill"

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jduggan:

Dagmar: i *cough* downloaded a vcd.. the movie is in a .dat file which i got using daemon tools, but i wanna turn it into an avi so i can play in linux

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D-side:

sounds like the kind of thing you should just pass on ripping ata ll. :)

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qu0zl:

jduggan, can you play it with vlc?

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qu0zl:

vlc plays more formats than anything else i know. if it can play it, it can transcode it

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Dagmar:

jduggan: Smack it with the file utility (`file filename.dat`) to see what it is, and then use transcode on it to convert it to something useful like AVI-encapsulated XviD

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fysa:

mythfrontend will build for PPC, right?

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jduggan:

Dagmar: AVSEQ01.DAT: RIFF (little-endian) data, wrapped MPEG-1 (CDXA)

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Dagmar:

Euw it gave the cop-out answer

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weevil:

vcd to dvd? sounds a bit like a sow's ear to silk purse

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ghotiboy1:

hello there...i have 0.20 installed (having upgraded to it over the years) and i'm having some issues with it crashing...I decided that i am going to wipe and reinstall from scratch (OS and all)...Is there any way to clean up the DB in the process as I've had sporadic problems with deleting recordings...

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makomk:

Oops... *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/mythbackend: malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0xa9a502b7

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ghotiboy1:

hello? anyone know what the best way to clean up the db is rather than just back the whole thing up and restore? or do i need to just import the whole thing?

[16:10:16]

weevil:

is there any way to stop the echoes in the channel?

[16:10:26]

ghotiboy1:

hahahaha

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jduggan:

hmm so guys, these .nuv files, mythtranscode creates, is there somewhere in the myth wiki that says how to convert them to mpeg/avi, i cant seem to find it

[16:14:16]

weevil:

nuvexport

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weevil:

btw converting between lossy formats will be ahem.. a bit crap

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jduggan:

weevil: well i tried changing it from livetv quality to 'medium' quality because the original file was 1gig for 1hr show

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jduggan:

but a friend in work wants to see it, there's no way im uploading 1gig to him

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ghotiboy1:

nuvexport works gread jduggan

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ghotiboy1:

great, that is

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ghotiboy1:

takes a while if you are lowering bitrate

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weevil:

no way you're uploading ANY mythtv recording

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ghotiboy1:

unless it is a recording of your Uncle Joe playing the accordian on Christmas last year

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jduggan:

weevil: eh?

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GreyFoxx:

weevil: Hehe I do that from time to time. pull recordings from my work mythbox down to my home one if I missed it for some reason or run out of tuners :)

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ghotiboy1:

jduggan: he is saying that you are violating copyright law when you pass a recording on to someone else

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weevil:

well if one guy's comments end up with the MPAA coming down on mythtv & causing loads of grief, I'll keep my mouth shut in future

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jduggan:

how does he know what copyright exists on the program i wish to upload

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weevil:

it's a recorded tv show

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weevil:

you said as much

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ghotiboy1:

Unless it is Uncle Joe

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jduggan:

so if i lend a VHS of the documentary thats breakin copyright also?

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weevil:

yup

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jduggan:

okay, what i really mean to say is

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weevil:

too late

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jduggan:

going by your analogy they would ban vhs tapes

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weevil:

and the log'll show it

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weevil:

going by my anaology, it was outside of what could be construed as 'fair use'

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jduggan:

so i can hardly see any agency coming down on mythtv

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jduggan:

besides, this is a software support channel

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weevil:

the dividing line is too thin already

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jduggan:

not a criminal activity advice channel :)

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weevil:

it's the public face of a pvr project

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sigger:

since you're all on the topic: do you all believe its illegal (in the US) to record a show (e.g. network TV or other properly paid for thing, such as HBO) via mythtv and then record to DVD for your own exclusive use to watch later

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jduggan:

anyway

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jduggan:

nuvexport installs with mythtv?

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weevil:

no

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ghotiboy1:

nope

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jduggan:

dont seem to have that file on my system

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weevil:

people read the docs?

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jduggan:

ah ok, which package is it in

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ghotiboy1:

SVN

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weevil:

there's this thing called 'google' or something

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jduggan:

well im on the wiki

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ghotiboy1:

jduggan: http://tinyurl.com/yxtoc6

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ghotiboy1:

first link

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weevil:

well – had my fill helping out in here & now I've had my fill of being a troll. enoy

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weevil:

/s/enoy/enjoy

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ghotiboy1:

guess so

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ghotiboy1:

so, now that he won't troll my question: anyone know what the best way to clean up the db is rather than just back the whole thing up and restore? or do i need to just import the whole thing?

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jduggan:

omfg 4hrs to transcode a 1hr file

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ghotiboy1:

dude, that is normal

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ghotiboy1:

unless you have a quad-core system

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jduggan:

lol

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jduggan:

i thought it'd be at max the length of time it takes to actually view the movie

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ghotiboy1:

depending on the options you give it, you can reduce that time somewhat

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jduggan:

ah well

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ghotiboy1:

nope, it is decoding and re-encoding the video and doing artifact finding

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ghotiboy1:

the problem is that GNU software coders don't have access to some of the proprietary codecs that are faster

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GreyFoxx:

Doh, mytharchive doesn't currently honour the delete flag

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sigger:

If anyone from before is interested in reading an interview with an LA, CA (US) attorney to get more understanding of the (il)legality of recording with myth vs a VCR: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/lawrpt/stories/s712304.htm

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euphobot:

zap2it problem. cleared lineup. made new lineup. ran myth-setup. ran mythfilldatabase. look at listings in myth web interface. still no program info.

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seth|laptop:

yeah my HD OTA stuff changed, but after redo-ing my lineup, and then running mythfilldatabse, mythweb still shows my old info

[16:50:20]

seth|laptop:

I am wondering if it is not a issue at zap2it, and perhaps they will fix it later

[16:50:24]

kslater:

does anyone know of an easy way to sample a recording from the command line and get the specifics of the recording?

[16:50:37]

kslater:

assume MPEG2 as the file type

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kslater:

seems like I used to know this

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kslater:

doh – nevermind mplayer -vo null -ao null -identify <filename> works

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euphobot:

If I could look at the xml coming from zap, I would know the channel # they are using

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tracy:

euphobot: i have the same problem

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tracy:

and some1 else was too, last night

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seth|laptop:

I just wonder why mythweb has not been updated yet. I cleared and created my channel lineups, ran fill and my old channels are still showing up.

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tracy:

seth|laptop: but it is different in mythfrontend?

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seth|laptop:

tracy: not sure, I am at work, I was hoping to get it sorted out before this evening recordings start, but I guess I'll have to wait until I get home

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tracy:

i have same exact problem... :(

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tracy:

seth|laptop: u running what tuner? i have pvr150 and ota hd.. only problem is with ota program info

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tracy:

hi xris, did i mention that patch to nuvexport solverd mt segmentation fault in ffmpeg when using nuvexport

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xris:

tracy: nope, but I knew it would fix a bunch of issues once I realized what was going on

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seth|laptop:

tracy: my problem is also with HD OTA, my pvr is hooked to Dish Network, I have 2 air2pc HD OTA cards, and they are where I do the bulk of my recording from, so starting at 4pm EST today, this could get interesting for me, hehe

[17:14:59]

hjohnson:

afaik, we have no OTA HDTV here

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hjohnson:

OTA TV is going by way of the dodobird here in Canada

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GreyFoxx:

hjohnson: Where are you located ?

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hjohnson:

Vancouver, BC, Canada

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GreyFoxx:

I thought Vancouver had several OTA HD channels, I know TO has a bunch

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GreyFoxx:

Basically you gotta be in Montreal, TO or Vancouver :/

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GreyFoxx:

None here in Halifax even though several channels said they would be doing them by the end of the summer that just passed :/

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tracy:

so seth|laptop was it working and stopped working? this weekend was the first time i tried to get ota hd program info... i had this card in vista before that

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seth|laptop:

as of yesterday evening (Sunday) all of my stuff still worked. I did not check it this morning before I left. :-(

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tracy:

seth|laptop: so your program guide info was there and now is wrong/not being updated?

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hjohnson:

GreyFoxx: I had read a bunch of places that most stations were looking to ditch OTA totally,simply because it's not financially viable... given the massive cable and satellite penetration

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seth|laptop:

according to mythweb, my old channels are still in the listings, however after going to zap2it, and setting up the revised listings, I ran mythfill database, and I noticed that several channels were changed on my "Local Broadcast" entries, I just wish I knew for sure. I did not however re-scan the channels in mythtv-setup, perhaps this will change everything. At 4PM to day I will know if its working, as a thumbnail will be created in "recordings" I

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GreyFoxx:

hjohnson: Doh

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seth|laptop:

as a failsafe, I have set the shows up to record on the dish network side as well, on my slave box

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hjohnson:

GreyFoxx: well, it makes sense, really...

[17:22:48]

hjohnson:

and frees up spectrum for useful things, like high speed data

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mkrufky:

seth|laptop: im just curious, which kernel are you running, and is it the air2pc rev1 or rev2 card? i ask, because there is a bug in the revision using the nxt2002, for kernels 2.6.18 ... i fixed it in 2.6.18.2

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GreyFoxx:

I'd rather the OTA video heh, but to each their own :)

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seth|laptop:

mkrufky: I run kernel 2.6.15 and my air2pc cards are revision 2

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mkrufky:

revision 2 is the one using the bcm3510 ?

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seth|laptop:

yes

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mkrufky:

ah, ok... so you're not affected by this bug... thanks

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seth|laptop:

np, and thank goodb

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seth|laptop:

ness

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seth|laptop:

er goodness

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mkrufky:

:-)

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mkrufky:

i actually had quite a hard time getting a good signal with my rev2 card ... im glad it is working for SOMEBODY

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fysa:

anyone try to build myth on a PS3 yet?

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seth|laptop:

I average about 78 to 88%

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tracy:

external antenna?

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GreyFoxx:

fysa: I've seen one other guy ask, but that's about it :)

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GreyFoxx:

what type of cpu is in the PS3 ?

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fysa:

three+ core PPC I believe.

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** seth|laptop wonders why anyone would buy a console for >200 bucks **

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seth|laptop:

or at all for that matter, hehe

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** hjohnson wonders why anyone would buy a console, period. **

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seth|laptop:

man there were people geting shot for those PS3's, thats just crazy

[17:27:41]

mkrufky:

i just mentioned it to my co-worker

[17:27:51]

mkrufky:

apparantly sony was involved in this official linux release for ps3 ?!?

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mkrufky:

that is awesome

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fysa:

.. because with Linux, it's a PC with $1000 worth of hardware for much cheaper.

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seth|laptop:

and $600, would rather buy an eMachine, hehe

[17:28:14]

seth|laptop:

ah

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fysa:

and a small case..

[17:28:18]

mkrufky:

from what i know about the hardware, it is more powerful than a typical pc

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hjohnson:

seth|laptop: well, that's debateable

[17:28:35]

hjohnson:

i've not seen a well built emachines computer, ever

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fysa:

a HTPC case alone is almost $200. :P

[17:28:41]

fysa:

$100-$200. :P

[17:29:08]

fysa:

So just having the PS3, you get games and mythfrontend in one box — WITH the ability to play HD/1080p, that the XBox lacked.

[17:29:33]

fysa:

All for around $400 eventually..

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GreyFoxx:

I imagine we will see more patches come in for the PPC compiling then :)

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seth|laptop:

I guess there is something to that, but I just can't see spending the money on a console, bought my xbox frontend at a yardsale for $30, no HD content, but it does SD just fine, but $600, wow

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tracy:

now if i could find an xbox for $30

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GreyFoxx:

I'd pay $30 for one heh. Then I could use it as another upnp client to test with myth and streaming recordings that way without needing that xbmcmyth script

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hjohnson:

i'm debating on what to use at a front end..

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mkrufky:

os3 can play 1080p ??? hot!

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mkrufky:

Ps3

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hjohnson:

I just can't picture myself buyin gan xbox

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Inkubot:

mythweather show wrong info :(

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hjohnson:

I'm thinking an EPIA EN12000 or something, which uses the C7 CPU

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jduggan:

seth|laptop: what do you use for a remote with an xbox frontend?

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seth|laptop:

jduggan: xbox dvd remote, it came with it

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jduggan:

oh right

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jduggan:

so the ir on the dongle is supported?

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GreyFoxx:

I would use one for the ocassional game but mostly for testing xbmc with myth. It has too little ram and is too loud for a fe for me

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tracy:

seth|laptop: http://bb.labs.zap2it.com/viewtopic.php?t=1055 < im still reading but we not the only ones having a problem

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seth|laptop:

it works well enough, it actually can play fox43 HD content, but anything from NBC, heroes for example, it cannot, not sure why there is a pause

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seth|laptop:

keeping in mind that I am running it in 640x480 mode on a 27" tv

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jduggan:

i was thinkin about gettin an xbox as a frontend

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mkrufky:

seth|laptop: in NYC, WNBC_HD is broadcast in 1080i — my machine chokes on the deinterlacing sometimes ....

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mkrufky:

is that your problem?

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mkrufky:

(i have been lucky watching heroes so far — no glitches during that show)

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seth|laptop:

yeah on 8_1 i get pauses, but that is on my xbox, my master/front has no issues with it

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seth|laptop:

most of the 43_1 content is 480i, like the simpsons, and that 70's show

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seth|laptop:

that plays fine on the xbox

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sigger:

hjohnson: you've been thinking about that EPIA for a while now, IIRC

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fryfrog:

does anyone have a harmony remote? I have a 688 (i think?) and it seems to have used up its batteries in 1 month

[18:05:02]

fryfrog:

i wonder, is that abnormal? does the silly remove ever go to sleep or something?

[18:05:22]

tracy:

dont sit on your remote ;)

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sigger:

I have a 680 I think (or 676?). a little heavy on batteries, but not crazy

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** seth|laptop has 880, uses rechargable, hasn't put it in the cradle for a week and a half **

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sigger:

688 have a color lcd backlit screen that stays on much?

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fryfrog:

it isn't the color one

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fryfrog:

but it does have an lcd display

[18:07:00]

fryfrog:

and it stays on *all* the damn time

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fryfrog:

i've not seen any way of turning it off

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kormoc:

there's a easy way

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sigger:

I reduced the "glow" time using the program

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kormoc:

just remove the batterys

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fryfrog:

the glow never comes on for me, i don't use any of the buttons that activate the feature

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** seth|laptop thinks the programming program is a PITA **

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** sigger totally agrees **

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fryfrog:

i concur as well, i wish it had a nitty gritty mode or something

[18:08:45]

** seth|laptop had to set up his mythbox as a mediacenter pc to get all the cool buttons **

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fryfrog:

is that how you got lots of good buttons?

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seth|laptop:

yup

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fryfrog:

did you then use lirc's irrecord?

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sigger:

when you have the remote learn a code by IR sensor, program should be able to upload them back

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fryfrog:

or just grab a mediacenter lircrc?

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kormoc:

I think he means he installed windows media center?

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seth|laptop:

no. I use the MCE remote codes, but I have all the buttons

[18:10:16]

seth|laptop:

my receiver is the one that uses mceusb2

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sigger:

seth|laptop: more buttons that a Hauppauge silver (which I don't think is that much)

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seth|laptop:

no, had to tel the harmony remote that it was controlling a media center pc, hehe

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fryfrog:

ahhh

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fryfrog:

i have not run into many buttons i wish for

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seth|laptop:

well I wanted jump points for all the features, I needed an aspect ratio button, comm skip and ffwd rew, and an input card switcher

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sigger:

I just need more button codes (regardless of what they're named) so I can program lircrc with more myth/mplayer codes.

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seth|laptop:

it took me like 2hrs to set it up, with the wretched programming interface, but it was worth it, heh

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gmad:

heloo everybody!

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gmad:

I have problem with mythtv first running

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Inkubot:

when mythweather shows wrong info it's a problem of msnbc ?

[18:15:54]

gmad:

could anybody help me?

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fryfrog:

probably not, this is an iranian cow milking support channel

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sigger:

damn, I thought this was for iraqi cows

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sigger:

same thing soon enough

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Inkubot:

fryfrog HAHAHA

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gmad:

very funny!

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fryfrog:

yeah, iran better watch it. bush has 2 years left, thats plenty of time to hop over there

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fryfrog:

heck, i bet he could get us to north korea too, god knows they need an invasion

[18:17:54]

sigger:

I meant more like Iran hopping into Iraq the moment we (US) step out

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gmad:

could you tell me how to setup tv channels if I am ouside all countries with xmltv info

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fryfrog:

sigger: oh, good point :)

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kslater:

Myth display question: if I run my output of a fe to a TV at a resolution of 960 x 540 and play back a recording that is 720x480, what happens? Up scaling to fit the X dimensions? Mode change down to fit the recording?

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kormoc:

usually the video is scaled, aye

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kslater:

ok. ditto for a 1920 x 1080 going to a 960 x 540 X display. It would get scaled down to fit.

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tracy:

seth|laptop: after reading lab2it's forum, they have changed the digital subchannels eg 4–1 to its real channel eg 34. so basically we are screwed

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** tracy sits and hopes lab2it changes it back **

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seth|laptop:

tracy: man that sucks

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cureless:

anybody have an opinion on WD KS drives vs Seagate DB35/SV35 ?

[18:26:52]

cureless:

I haven't found any real reviews of the Seagates

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kslater:

tracy – so I finally get close to being able to record hd and zap2it is yanking support for listings?

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fryfrog:

I'd go for seagates any day for the 5 year warrenty, period

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jduggan:

ok so guys, i have a VCD in the way of .bin/cue files.. is there no way to view this without building cdemu kernel support?

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fryfrog:

jduggan: you could use bin2iso

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jduggan:

(burning to cdr is not an option btw)

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jduggan:

bin2iso

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jduggan:

hmm

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jduggan:

will have a look thx

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fryfrog:

at least, i think that is what its called

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cureless:

doesn't mplayer play it?

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fryfrog:

there *is* a program that'll let you mount a bin/cue file in linux, and...

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fryfrog:

yeah, i'd try mplayer/xine/myth on the file and see if it work

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fryfrog:

my xbox and myth happily play iso files, can't say i've tried a bin/cue

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GreyFoxx:

fryfrog: Just you mount

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GreyFoxx:

mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/blah

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cureless:

mplayer will jus treat it as a stream and (with luck) play it. But you can convert it/mount it

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jduggan:

fryfrog: yea the iso's get mounted on the loopback device

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cureless:

GreyFoxx: it's not an iso

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GreyFoxx:

.bin

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sigger:

jduggan: easiest way I found is to just use VLC which supports bin/cue files

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GreyFoxx:

cureless: It will still work

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GreyFoxx:

if you use the right filename :)

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GreyFoxx:

a bin file is just an iso with a different name basically

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cureless:

GreyFoxx: have you tried it? .bins don't have the same format as isos. It would surprise me if it works

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jduggan:

so mplayer vcd://file.bin?

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GreyFoxx:

cureless: I'm sure I have

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GreyFoxx:

but I'll see if I have any on my machine now to test

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jduggan:

i will test

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sigger:

jduggan: I spent a BUNCH of time mucking around with that. Trust me – try VLC

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cureless:

jduggan: there is a conversion tool, bchunk bin/cue -> iso too

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GreyFoxx:

cureless: It is giving me an error, I'm sure I've gone it though, maybe the file I had was reall an iso with a .bin filename

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tracy:

kslater: i'm exactly in the same boat... i installed the HD tuner THIS weekend

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cureless:

GreyFoxx: a possibility. .bin files are different enough from .isos

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tracy:

thanks to zap2it, i guess the tuner card is going back into vista

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euphobot:

what is nuexport?

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jduggan:

btw, if anyones interested about that vcd thing.. i used a windows laptop with 'daemon tools' mplayer plays the .dat file which i extracted from the vcd

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jduggan:

and moved

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jduggan:

i just renamed it to .mpg

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jduggan:

works fine

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jduggan:

there is a project like daemon tools, called cdemu, i'm just too lazy to bother with it for *one* video file :)

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kslater:

tracy: I wonder if it wouldn't be possible to transform the XML that's returned?

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jduggan:

its a kernel module iirc

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cureless:

jduggan: you can convert the cue/bin to an iso using bchunk

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jduggan:

cureless: okay

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jduggan:

which package would i find bchunk

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cureless:

jduggan: what are you running?

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jduggan:

aah there's a .deb package for it

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jduggan:

debian testing

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cureless:

not that I know the package for all distros, but debian (and probably ubuntu) it's called bchunk

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jduggan:

nod

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tracy:

kslater: possibly, but i am hoping there is someone much brighter than me that will figure it out

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cureless:

darn it, why can't hard drive reviewers/manufacturers agree on a noise measurement technique so I can choose and buy a silent hard drive!!

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kormoc:

cureless, cause then you'd never buy any drive as there are no silent drives out there

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cureless:

but at least I can figure out which one is more quiet

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jduggan:

hmm i used that bchunk it gave me a supposed iso file, but mount says it cant mount superblock

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jduggan:

so im guessing its f*cked

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jduggan:

Nov 20 18:52:19 paki kernel: Unable to identify CD-ROM format.

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cureless:

are you sure the .bin is in bin format?

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jduggan:

ofcourse

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jduggan:

i have a .bin and .cue

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jduggan:

i iuExample: bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo

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jduggan:

i followed that example

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fryfrog:

bin and iso are a little different

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fryfrog:

bin is the raw data, you *need* the .cue file to tell it how it is laid out

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cureless:

fryfrog: jduggan is trying to convert to is with bchunk

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fryfrog:

can you try another tool?

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D-side:

are you trying to mount it or burn it?

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fryfrog:

cureless: i realize, i was just commenting on ummm someone else's comment

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D-side:

oh. i just read the above. :)

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jduggan:

D-side: convert it to a useable format

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fryfrog:

he wants to simply play it

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jduggan:

ie, a mountable iso

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D-side:

why am i thinking mplayer does that

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fryfrog:

daemon-tools (for windows) happily mounts it :)

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D-side:

if its a (s)vcd

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D-side:

or was it vlc... one of the two.

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jduggan:

fryfrog: yea as a workaround i can mount it in daemon tools extract the .dat file and mplayer in linux treats that as an mpeg, it plays fine

[18:56:20]

jduggan:

only its a pain to have to transfer between computers just to do that

[18:56:26]

fryfrog:

does anyone use the mythrename perl script?

[18:56:33]

jduggan:

i have done

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fryfrog:

jduggan: i agree, i've done *tons* of stuff win .bin and .cue files in linux, i just forget the tools :(

[18:56:58]

fryfrog:

does anyone use it to *constantly* keep their files named all pretty like?

[18:57:06]

fryfrog:

or can you somehow get myth to do that automagically?

[18:57:22]

jduggan:

fryfrog: i guess you could add it to a cron job?

[18:57:41]

fryfrog:

yeah, sure

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jduggan:

i did it because i wanted to find the .mpg for a program to transfer to another machine

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fryfrog:

ah

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jduggan:

never used it otherwise :)

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fryfrog:

mainly, i just need to find the files that are on HD but not in the db

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jduggan:

ah

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fryfrog:

which i guess i can also do with that other script :/

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jduggan:

well u could do it in perl pretty easy

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jduggan:

list and compare

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jduggan:

dinner time bbiaf

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tracy:

for those with OTA HD content from zip2it.. your program guide probably is empty for all digital channels

[19:01:31]

kslater:

and that really sucks

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ghotiboy2:

sorry to be annoying about this (3rd time to ask): Does anyone know if I can "clean" the myth database good when I wipe and reload the mythbackend server? I need to wipe the OS...I have issues sometimes with programs that won't delete and wanted to start semi-fresh, but I have 150 recordings...

[19:01:48]

** seth|laptop wonders why mythweb still shows the old guide **

[19:02:36]

seth|laptop:

what do I have to run remotely from a terminal, to see which channels the hd card is tuning?

[19:02:42]

kslater:

ghotiboy2: are you asking if one of the database migration scenarios works properly?

[19:02:53]

natoka:

seth|laptop: perhaps mythfilldatabase did not run

[19:03:14]

fryfrog:

ghotiboy2: what are you asking?

[19:03:24]

fryfrog:

ghotiboy2: if you want to nuke your db, just drop and re-create it

[19:03:24]

seth|laptop:

natoka: I ran it manually after I heard the issue existed, it showed that it was adding/updating local broadcast channels

[19:03:44]

natoka:

seth|laptop: and how does the data inside look alike?

[19:03:55]

ghotiboy2:

i'm asking if there is a way to export only the data for current recorded programs and start fresh with everything else

[19:04:16]

natoka:

seth|laptop: perhaps some tables or fields are missing that are now essential to mythweb ...

[19:04:39]

ghotiboy2:

btw...where are the migration scenario instructions? they aren't listed in the docs TOC

[19:05:38]

kormoc:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Backup_your_database

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seth|laptop:

well mythweb still shows the old channels

[19:05:50]

kormoc:

ghotiboy2, sure, just backup the recorded table

[19:06:40]

natoka:

seth|laptop: you could try to manually fix that by dropping the tables and recreating them with mythfilldatabase – I suppose

[19:06:45]

ghotiboy2:

ok, that sounds decent...i might try that

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tracy:

seth|laptop: just dont go into mythsetup and delete all channels like i did

[19:07:42]

seth|laptop:

natoka: well looking at phpmyadmin, the channel tables are all still showing the ones that worked, i.e 43_1 for fox43 .vs what zap2it says 47

[19:07:49]

tracy:

because they aint coming back

[19:08:23]

tracy:

doesnt mythfilldatabase only update the ones it matches

[19:08:59]

natoka:

seth|laptop: and mythfilldatabase runs without complains?

[19:09:04]

seth|laptop:

yes

[19:09:06]

fryfrog:

"To start the monitor, go to the screen you want to monitor and use "Ctrl-A" "M" to look for activity or "Ctrl-A" "_" to monitor for silence"

[19:09:10]

fryfrog:

neat screen feature

[19:10:42]

natoka:

seth|laptop: hmm, your date/time settings are correct?

[19:11:05]

natoka:

seth|laptop: otherwise it looks like mythfilldatabase borks something

[19:11:55]

fryfrog:

wow

[19:12:02]

fryfrog:

screen and "split" is awsome!

[19:12:04]

natoka:

seth|laptop: but before debugging it i'd suggest having a look and compare the database structure with a freshly created one ...

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seth|laptop:

natoka: well currently it appears to not have changed. In lookin at the lineups, the new channel representation at zap2it uses the channel ID number where it you to show the ca

[19:19:26]

seth|laptop:

channel number

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promacuser:

if anyone has a second, i'm having trouble connecting to the outside world with my box

[19:20:39]

promacuser:

i can connect to anything on the local network and the other computers on the local network can access the internet

[19:20:43]

promacuser:

but the mythbox will not

[19:21:10]

fryfrog:

sounds like you maybe don't have your default gw set on the linux box

[19:21:16]

fryfrog:

can you ping your default gw? google?

[19:21:29]

promacuser:

i can't ping anything, i don't think

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seth|laptop:

natoka: for example what zap2it showed on their site was 43_1 but now shows 47 before it showed 43_2 and now it shows 47. In looking at the mythconverg table, it still shows 43_1 as the channel number and 47 as the channel ID, perhaps mine is not a borked as I thought

[19:22:11]

seth|laptop:

promacuser: perhaps a resolv.conf setting

[19:22:29]

fryfrog:

myth doesn't *really* care what zap2it calls the channel numbers

[19:22:35]

fryfrog:

its the xmltv ide that matters, afaik

[19:22:51]

fryfrog:

i use an "OTA" line up for my HD, but i manually scanned and simply added the xmltv id to the channel

[19:23:11]

promacuser:

fryfrog: i get this — connect: Network is unreachable

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seth|laptop:

how does one "manually scan" for this xmltv id number

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promacuser:

ifconfig looks fine, still, but traceroute fails

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fryfrog:

and route?

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promacuser:

sorry, route, not traceroute

[19:28:23]

promacuser:

actually, there is no gateway in route

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kslater:

promacuser: single adapter?

[19:29:10]

fryfrog:

there ya go

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fryfrog:

route add default gw <insert correct gw ip here, biotch>

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mishehu:

I prefer iproute2 ;-)

[19:30:12]

fryfrog:

sure, if you know how to use that fancy new shit :)

[19:30:34]

fryfrog:

back when *I* learned linux, you used route or you were just helping a sheep get through the fence

[19:30:40]

promacuser:

what is the route usually?

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promacuser:

the 255 number?

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fryfrog:

usually its your base ip with a .1

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promacuser:

(and here comes the newbie)

[19:31:08]

fryfrog:

ie, 192.168.1.1 is *probably* the most popular

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natoka:

fryfrog: but ip is much more versatile than ifconfig/route ...

[19:31:21]

** seth|laptop still thinks its missing the resolv.conf **

[19:31:29]

fryfrog:

if you are using dhcp (ie, you have a linksys,dlink,etc router)

[19:31:32]

promacuser:

ok, so here's a question. why does my mythbox forget the gateway?

[19:31:48]

fryfrog:

promacuser: because you didn't tell it how to set it perm-like?

[19:31:52]

promacuser:

because i have to do this at least once a month

[19:32:52]

fryfrog:

this is *real* basic linux stuff, i would re-examine what distro you are using and how it is setup

[19:32:53]

promacuser:

fry: how do i do that?

[19:33:08]

fryfrog:

and then find the docs for your distro, or at least the help channel for it

[19:33:10]

promacuser:

oh. see, i'm just a set it up and see if it works kind of guy

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seth|laptop:

what distro

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fryfrog:

i hope you picked fedora or ubuntu then :)

[19:33:30]

fryfrog:

or suse i spose?

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cureless:

promacuser: what distro are you using? how does your system get the network settings?

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promacuser:

knoppmyth

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fryfrog:

do you have a little router thing? dlink, linksys, etc?

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promacuser:

and i have a linksys router

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seth|laptop:

add the interface information to /etc/network/interfaces

[19:34:12]

promacuser:

i'm a good computer guy. just not a good LINUX guy

[19:34:18]

promacuser:

more of a mac person

[19:34:21]

** seth|laptop is a happy knoppmythuser **

[19:35:01]

seth|laptop:

if I am not mistaken, you can also run net-setup

[19:36:23]

natoka:

if you've got a dhcp server it is even easier ...

[19:37:59]

seth|laptop:

nichts on the "net-setup"

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seth|laptop:

promacuser: better to nano /etc/network/interfaces

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seth|laptop:

or vi if you prefer

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promacuser:

yeah, well, i learned how to set it up with a static ip address which is nice

[19:39:56]

seth|laptop:

promacuser: but my guess would be if you can hit the other boxes on your network, but not the outside world, then I would look at /etc/resolv.conf make sure your DNS stuff is in there

[19:40:44]

seth|laptop:

and since you are using knoppmyth, and they have the best wiki in the world, look here http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=StaticIPConfig

[19:42:59]

seth|laptop:

and if you are not sure of your nameserver/dns stuffs, run 'dhclient eth0 (or whatever your ethernet adaptor is) thn cat out /etc/resolv.conf, record it, and re-apply it after you configure for static.

[19:43:21]

seth|laptop:

however if it is there once, it should still be there after

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hjohnson:

sigger: yeah

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hjohnson:

just been on the road so much that I haven't had the opportunity to work on it. <G>

[19:48:59]

hjohnson:

(the trouble with being home less than 50% of your life)

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Inkubot:

D:

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imperfect-:

Anyone here had any luck with myth2ipod?

[20:05:33]

imperfect-:

And why oh why does it sucks so bad ;)

[20:06:27]

D-side:

hjohnson: blah blah.

[20:06:54]

hjohnson:

lol

[20:07:23]

imperfect-:

No takers on Myth2Ipod?

[20:07:25]

kormoc:

imperfect-, use nuvexport?

[20:07:36]

imperfect-:

kormoc: well this is a nuvexport plugin..

[20:08:02]

ghotiboy2:

what is the problem you are having with it

[20:08:03]

ghotiboy2:

?

[20:08:05]

imperfect-:

kormoc: so what I'm confused about is, when i convert SDTV to Ipod it's all twitchy and basically unwatchable on an iPod.. it's horrible... audio out of sync. Just wondering if I'm doing something wrong ;)

[20:09:06]

kormoc:

nuvexport will export ipod videos without plugins if you have the right libs installed

[20:09:14]

imperfect-:

Hrm.

[20:09:21]

imperfect-:

Interesting.

[20:09:27]

imperfect-:

I wonder why myth2ipod even exists?

[20:09:35]

kormoc:

it was made before nuvexport could do it

[20:09:48]

imperfect-:

Oh

[20:10:01]

kormoc:

anyway, lunch time

[20:10:40]

imperfect-:

Thanks for the input.

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cureless:

promacuser: what distro are you using? how does your system get the network settings?

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dogie:

anyone use a mediamvp as afront end?

[20:27:44]

dogie:

frontend

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imperfect-:

Anyone know how I can get a snapshot off one of my encoders into nupple video for testing purposes?

[20:32:45]

kslater:

I made a short hd recording with dvbstream from an ATSC broadcast using an Air2PC card. playback with xine shows the video fine, but no audio. Any thoughts on this?

[20:33:29]

mkrufky:

does the audio play if you put it thru mplayer?

[20:33:33]

mkrufky:

kslater: ^^

[20:34:23]

kslater:

haven't tried mplayer

[20:34:47]

kslater:

do you think it would handle it differently?

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lotia:

anyone here using XRandR to switch resolutions based on material? if so, i'm curious about whether you can set overscan on a per resolution basis. also what modelines do you use?

[20:39:31]

kormoc:

over scan in the nvidia driver is not done per mode

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lotia:

kormoc: i'm wondering how sd will look with a projector when run through a scaler. i don't want CC data being displayed on screen

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GreyFoxx:

doggie: I use to, right now it's sitting on shelf doing nothing

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mkrufky:

kslater: sorry, i got distracted

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mkrufky:

kslater: i asked if you tried mplayer, cuz xine is known to have some wierd issues with certain plugins

[20:52:23]

mkrufky:

kslater: for example, the a52 codec

[20:52:38]

mkrufky:

kslater: (a52 is used for atsc audio)

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mkrufky:

kslater: try mplayer — see if it works

[20:54:01]

capt-silver:

Does MythTV play Xvid video? I have tried,but i get these cool jaggy psychedlic colors....the colors man, the colors!

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kormoc:

lotia, you should be able to set one mode that looks right and have the video scale to screen. that is the more common way to handle it

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kslater:

mkrufky: thanks I'll try it, but I think xine has superior support for MPEG-2 decoding on my FE. (EPIA SP-13000)

[21:00:45]

kslater:

so if the audio works with mplayer I'll need to sort out the a52 codec

[21:03:50]

mkrufky:

kslater: it probably *is* superior .... however, this is a worthy test

[21:04:00]

kslater:

agreed

[21:04:03]

mkrufky:

im not telling you to ditch xine, just to try a test

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andy_:

hi all, how do you set up mysql for mythtv

[21:12:39]

kormoc:

check the myth tv docs and the mysql docs

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andy_:

these docs arent giving the d esired results

[21:14:46]

andy_:

nothing on ubuntu either

[21:15:21]

kormoc:

feel free to ask specific questions about where you're stuck, but really, we're not gonna walk you though the entire thing

[21:15:49]

mkrufky:

http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php ?

[21:16:08]

mkrufky:

*I* use jarod's guide — you cant go wrong

[21:16:23]

mkrufky:

even though his guide is for fedora, i use it as a base for any distro

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andy_:

ok, thanks, Ill try it out

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kslater:

mkrufky: you don't happen to know what utility I could use to strip AC3 from an mpeg2 file and save it as MP3?

[21:19:01]

mkrufky:

mencoder?

[21:19:06]

kslater:

I know I've done it in the past for other recordings, but I can't recall what I used now.

[21:20:03]

andy_:

alright, tryed and got "Failed to init MythContext, exiting."

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andy_:

thats after I try "mythtv-setup"

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mkrufky:

andy_: you should read the howto from begining to end before you begin

[21:21:14]

mkrufky:

read jarod's guide also — even though it doesnt apply to ubuntu:

[21:21:35]

mkrufky:

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

[21:21:39]

mkrufky:

^^ best guide, ever!

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capt-silver:

wilsonnet is pure garbage...wilsonet be the one...thx

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mycroes:

anyone got any clues as to when a non-qt version of mythtv will come?

[21:39:19]

D-side:

uh. is that even a plan?

[21:39:30]

D-side:

its the first i've ever heard of such a concept.

[21:40:17]

mycroes:

I read something on the site about switching to a different method of interface designing or something

[21:40:26]

mycroes:

that in future will enable other renderers, like sdl or opengl

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mycroes:

Menus are now drawn by MythUI using OpenGL. This option can be enabled/disabled in the Appearance settings.

[21:42:08]

mycroes:

that's a start

[21:42:12]

mycroes:

in the 0.20 release notes

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mycroes:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythUI

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mycroes:

but I guess it still needs qt at this time

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dmwarren:

afternoon all

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dmwarren:

does anyone know where to find a script to convert my shows title names to real names?

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GreyFoxx:

mythrename.pl comes with the myth source in the contrib dir

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GreyFoxx:

no idea if packagers include it or not

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dmwarren:

thanks lemme see if I can find it...

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DaSkreech:

Hello :)

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DaSkreech:

Does mythTV have a 10 Ft Interface?

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rothga1:

yes

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DaSkreech:

Neat :-)

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DaSkreech:

Now to figure out how to turn the PS3 into a superb sexy DVR and then sell the distro

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DaSkreech:

Muwhaahaha

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rothga1:

good luck on that

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rothga1:

I am sure more people buy the ps3 for a gaming system though

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rothga1:

that and they all get free tivo's through their cable company

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DaSkreech:

Yeah I know

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DaSkreech:

I'd probably be hte pnly person buying it but it'd make me happy :)

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DaSkreech:

And look a darn site better

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** darrenp wants mythtv on his ps3... when they come out over here in march! **

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rothga1:

you in the UK?

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darrenp:

Yup. :(

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darrenp:

Going to have to get a wii to be going on with! :)

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klekkus:

hi everyone

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DaSkreech:

Well honestly I'm only really interested in it cause they ahve a install linux Button

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DaSkreech:

Which is pretty ballsy

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klekkus:

Do anyone know what "mythtv is allrady using all available inputs for the channel you selected" means

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kormoc:

and by button, you mean after you patch the hell out of it first.

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DaSkreech:

Hmm

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klekkus:

when i push okey, it quits

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DaSkreech:

Does myth-Tv have mouse inputs yet?

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darrenp:

Yeah.. was at the LUGRadio live show this year and they had someone from sony telling us all about linux on the ps2 and ps3

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rothga1:

you prabably have a recording going

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kormoc:

klekkus, every tuner that can see that channel is in use

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DaSkreech:

darrenp: Linux on ps2 sucked ass

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DaSkreech:

unwiped at that

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kormoc:

klekkus, are you running myth via mythfrontend or mythtv?

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klekkus:

kormoc: if you mean the tv card, its not in use

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klekkus:

kormoc: via mythtv

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kormoc:

how do you know?

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kormoc:

you should run it via mythfrontend, mythtv is to be called via mythfrontend

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darrenp:

DaSkreech: I've no doubt. But it did look impressive when we were shown a large super computer made out of linked ps2's

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DaSkreech:

darrenp: Oh wait I apologise

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DaSkreech:

darrenp: Desktop linux sucked ass on the ps2

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darrenp:

DaSkreech: Heh.

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klekkus:

kormoc: i tried running it via mythfrontend. got segment fault:

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klekkus:

:(

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kormoc:

you need to fix that

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klekkus:

kormoc: how?

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klekkus:

onnecting to lcd server: localhost:6545 (try 1 of 10)

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klekkus:

Segmentation fault

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DaSkreech:

The home grown thing is much better as long as they don't start suing people as is Son'ys wont

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kormoc:

you need to debug it and all that jazz. it's decently complicated to do, but you shouldn't bother tring to run myth until it doesn't segfault anymore

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DaSkreech:

but everyone seems to be looking at using a home brewed linux install to play games. I think turning it into a DVr would be a much better proposition

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darrenp:

Defainately. Its one of the main reasons I want to get it, to give mythtv a try.

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darrenp:

That and play a few high def games! :)

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darrenp:

Warhawk looks fantastic!

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klekkus:

kormoc: any ideas on where to start debugging?

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kormoc:

you could try strace on it

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kormoc:

strace mythfrontend

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DaSkreech:

Exactly. Sony is covering the games section we need to make it comfy in a Living room setting

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DaSkreech:

so a lite ppc distro with mythTV would be neat

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DaSkreech:

.ogg Jukebox :)

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klekkus:

kormoc: ok, ill trie that:) thank you anyway:)

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darrenp:

Yup, just a pity it will need a reboot to play the games.

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DaSkreech:

someone will figure out a way to hook into that

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DaSkreech:

Just hope that 256 Megs is enough space for Myth

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GreyFoxx:

for a frontend?

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GreyFoxx:

ram or storage ?

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DaSkreech:

I guess

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** DaSkreech laughs. **

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DaSkreech:

Storage would be funny

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GreyFoxx:

it's more than enough ram

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GreyFoxx:

considering myth runs )poorly) on an xbox with 64meg of ram

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GreyFoxx:

my frontends are all 128megand they run fine ,so 256 should be ok

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** DaSkreech admits to never having setup Myth before but it looks pretty neat. don't know how the modules like weather/ RSS feeds etc work so I don't know whow much memory it needs **

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kormoc:

256 is a bit tight for a backend + frontend + mysql, but still doable

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DaSkreech:

Unless some brilliant bloke recodes teh Front end to run in the 256 megs on the Video card :)

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darrenp:

All my frontends have 512Mb in, but then thats 'cos the price difference of 256Mb is next to nowt! :)

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darrenp:

Talking of frontend, anyone any idea why one of my frontends (Minimyth) is refusing to play programs from a certain freeview mux (uk)

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dmwarren:

GreyFoxx, I found it at /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.20/contrib/mythrename.pl get installed here from packages. THANKS!!

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kslater:

anyone know the process to take a remote fe and turn it into a fe/be combo?

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kormoc:

setup the backend on it, restart the frontend

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kormoc:

done

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kslater:

kormoc: I installed the backend on it, now where do I do the setup for the new capture card that's in it?

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kormoc:

mythtv-setup

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kslater:

on which machine though? master backend or new slave backend?

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kormoc:

new slave backend

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kslater:

ok

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kslater:

thank you sir

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kormoc:

you're welcome

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sunnyhours4130:

has anyone had much success with an entry level 5.1 soundcard using knoppmyth?

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sunnyhours4130:

mine isn't supported by ALSA =(

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kormoc:

I use a sound blaster live 16 bit just fine

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sunnyhours4130:

cool deal. was it pretty cheap?

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kormoc:

indeed

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kormoc:

around $25ish iirc

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sunnyhours4130:

nice. do you need some fancy output cable?

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kormoc:

nope

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kormoc:

I think this is exactly the same one that I use

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kormoc:

http://maincomp.stores.yahoo.net/crlasobllidi.html

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sunnyhours4130:

cool. looks a bit like the one I have. a creative sb0090

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kormoc:

that's an Audigy, isn't it?

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sunnyhours4130:

yeah

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kormoc:

so why isn't it supported?

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sunnyhours4130:

nice on too. firewire on it and what not

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sunnyhours4130:

not sure.... i tried with mandriva 2007 and it didn't work on a fresh install. maybe i'm doing something wrong now that I think about it

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kormoc:

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.ph . . . _Labs#matrix

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kormoc:

see if you can find the exact model on there

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sunnyhours4130:

i looked, its not there =(

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kormoc:

that sucks

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sunnyhours4130:

i guess it couldn't hurt to throw it in my spare box and see if a fresh knoppmyth install would see it

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sunnyhours4130:

so i don't get it. my stereo receiver has inputs for RCA cables, and the soundcards all have outputs that are like headphone jack type thigns

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sunnyhours4130:

what do I have to do to make that work?

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kormoc:

sunnyhours4130, a headphone to RCA adapter

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kormoc:

a few bucks at any radioshack

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sunnyhours4130:

ahhhh ok

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kslater:

so with this whole zap2it hd listings debacle, seems like there are lots of choices of how to show the channels when adding and ATSC HD card. How does one know which is the right way?

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kormoc:

the one that works is the right way

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kslater:

ha

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