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| [00:23:36] | Honk^away: | where does mythvideo check for cover images? :P |
| [00:24:03] | siXy: | Honk^away, imdb by default |
| [00:24:18] | Honk^away: | now you got me confused =) |
| [00:24:31] | siXy: | ? |
| [00:24:47] | Honk^away: | how do i manually add an image? :] |
| [00:24:50] | Zider: | www.imdb.com :P |
| [00:24:58] | Zider: | oh, manually |
| [00:25:35] | Honk^away: | i thought i read somewhere that it'll use an image i put in the folder.. guess that wasnt right :P |
| [00:26:24] | siXy: | dunno – never tried it. presumably the image name is stored in the mysql database so you could update it there. |
| [00:27:27] | Honk^away: | d'oh |
| [00:27:50] | Honk^away: | guess i'll have to rewrite the plugin after all :P |
| [00:28:33] | siXy: | just to get an image for your dvd? doesnt seem worht it to me when you can just update the sql database to reflect the location of the cover image on your hdd... |
| [00:28:57] | psofa: | i just use ffmpeg to create a screenshot and manually add it to the db |
| [00:29:06] | Honk^away: | it's quite a bit more than that :P |
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| [00:29:26] | Honk^away: | anyway, thanks for the info =) |
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| [00:33:50] | symbolik: | anyone have success setting up the wintv-pvr 150 silver remote? |
| [00:34:41] | siXy: | symbolik, there are several pvr 150 remotes that could be described as silver. www.lirc.org has info on configuring them all. |
| [00:35:41] | symbolik: | already been there, got the config and replaced it |
| [00:35:43] | symbolik: | no go |
| [00:36:10] | xris: | symbolik: make sure you have the lirc kernel modules installed? some remotes require them, others don't |
| [00:36:26] | symbolik: | i'll check that out thanks |
| [00:36:49] | siXy: | also make sure you have a working .lircrrc in the correct place, otherwise nothing besides irw and mode2 will work. |
| [00:40:18] | nandor: | okay |
| [00:40:24] | nandor: | so i still have this issue |
| [00:40:30] | nandor: | as soon as i goto watch tv |
| [00:40:35] | nandor: | my remote stops responding |
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| [00:40:40] | nandor: | lircd stops getting info |
| [00:41:17] | nandor: | anyone know what could cause this |
| [00:41:29] | siXy: | nandor does irw work after the remote has stopped responding? |
| [00:41:53] | nandor: | work as in not crash or work as in reports commands? |
| [00:42:08] | nandor: | irw stops giving feedback until after i exit tv mode |
| [00:42:50] | siXy: | is this running irw in parellel to myth then? |
| [00:43:11] | nandor: | i can do either |
| [00:43:13] | nandor: | same results |
| [00:43:30] | nandor: | when im in the myth menus irw and myth both respond to commands when i goto watch tv both stop |
| [00:43:36] | nandor: | if i have irw off i get the same results |
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| [00:44:47] | nandor: | if i bring up the OSD it becomes responsive again |
| [00:44:47] | siXy: | hmmm. can yu try the same with mode2? |
| [00:45:37] | nandor: | mode2? |
| [00:45:51] | siXy: | yeah |
| [00:45:57] | nandor: | sure how do i do that |
| [00:46:02] | siXy: | just type mode2 |
| [00:46:10] | nandor: | where? |
| [00:46:14] | nandor: | oh. |
| [00:46:16] | nandor: | okay. |
| [00:46:20] | siXy: | =) |
| [00:46:43] | nandor: | do i need to stop lircd first? |
| [00:47:02] | siXy: | no |
| [00:47:13] | nandor: | # mode2 |
| [00:47:13] | nandor: | mode2: error opening /dev/lirc |
| [00:47:13] | nandor: | mode2: Device or resource busy |
| [00:47:24] | nandor: | # lsof /dev/lirc |
| [00:47:25] | nandor: | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| [00:47:25] | nandor: | lircd 3349 root 7u CHR 61,0 246685 /dev/lirc0 |
| [00:47:52] | siXy: | yu might need mode2 /dev/lirc0 |
| [00:48:13] | nandor: | too many args |
| [00:48:23] | nandor: | -d ftw |
| [00:48:25] | nandor: | same error |
| [00:48:28] | nandor: | busy |
| [00:48:30] | siXy: | uhh sorry its mode2 -d /dev/lirc0 |
| [00:48:45] | nandor: | # mode2 -d /dev/lirc0 |
| [00:48:45] | nandor: | mode2: error opening /dev/lirc0 |
| [00:48:45] | nandor: | mode2: Device or resource busy |
| [00:48:55] | psofa: | nandor, maybe you need to stop lircd |
| [00:48:58] | psofa: | er |
| [00:49:04] | psofa: | i think you really have to |
| [00:49:20] | nandor: | should mode2 return? |
| [00:49:22] | siXy: | i didnt think you needed to for mode2 – but its been a wile since i was last hacking lirc |
| [00:49:33] | siXy: | try it and see if it works |
| [00:49:45] | nandor: | ok i see codes let me get myth going |
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| [00:50:11] | nandor: | nope |
| [00:50:19] | nandor: | hangs the same way as soon as i goto watch tv |
| [00:50:43] | siXy: | thats interesting |
| [00:51:07] | nandor: | i wonder if this mobo is having problems processing hardware inturupts |
| [00:51:10] | nandor: | interupts even |
| [00:51:19] | siXy: | you may have dma issues |
| [00:51:24] | ** nandor nods ** | |
| [00:51:32] | nandor: | any good way to check? |
| [00:51:38] | nandor: | short of trying different hardware |
| [00:51:59] | siXy: | not really. you could trying lowering the pci latency timer some in bios setup – down to 32 |
| [00:52:30] | nandor: | ill try that then ill try new hardware i guess |
| [00:52:39] | nandor: | sucks though because this case only takes microatx |
| [00:52:45] | nandor: | so ill have to get a new case / mobo |
| [00:53:00] | siXy: | what mb/cpu do you have now? |
| [00:53:15] | nandor: | 3500+ |
| [00:53:18] | nandor: | and |
| [00:53:24] | nandor: | i think the asus micro atx mobo |
| [00:53:27] | nandor: | id have to check sec |
| [00:53:50] | siXy: | its not a radeon xpress 200 chipset is it? |
| [00:54:32] | nandor: | i lied |
| [00:54:40] | nandor: | its agigabyte i-DNA |
| [00:54:49] | nandor: | nforce |
| [00:57:57] | nandor: | .. |
| [00:58:55] | siXy: | hmm should be ok then i would have thought. nforce chips are normally ok |
| [01:02:57] | nandor: | wtf |
| [01:03:03] | nandor: | it just... started... working |
| [01:04:01] | siXy: | did you change anything? |
| [01:04:27] | nandor: | in fiddled the bios a bit |
| [01:05:28] | siXy: | ah ok. wel thats that sorted then :) |
| [01:05:45] | nandor: | heh |
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| [02:13:12] | savage1: | hello allll |
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| [02:21:21] | pmowry911: | Sorry for the offtopic ? but: Does anyone have a suggestion for a movie collection database that can handle multiple user collections with a check-out feature? Would be nice if you could use it from mythtv. |
| [02:23:33] | siXy: | pmowry911, would be very easy to write in php/mysql |
| [02:26:58] | pmowry911: | That implies that I have a clue at how to use php ;) I see a few with google and freashmeat.net that are close but not quite there. I'll look at the php based ones and see waht I can do. |
| [02:28:03] | siXy: | pmowry911, i meant write one from scratch. php is not that hard. |
| [02:32:33] | savage1: | man |
| [02:32:38] | savage1: | this network boot stuff is complicated rofl |
| [02:35:59] | pmowry911: | =) |
| [02:36:24] | savage1: | anyone here messing with knoppmyth |
| [02:36:29] | savage1: | and this prep-ts deal |
| [02:36:35] | savage1: | and something to do with a boot image cloop |
| [02:36:57] | savage1: | I got it to boot from the network but it's saying it can't find the knoppix file system after a few things |
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| [02:41:08] | morten: | would it be possible to universally control volume (ala aumix), but have it show up on the monitor (ala mplayer's built-in volume control)? |
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| [02:59:04] | Mattwj2005: | hi Majesty :) |
| [03:02:44] | Mattwj2005: | anyone here or are all 152 of you asleep? |
| [03:02:50] | Mattwj2005: | :-P |
| [03:04:51] | savage1: | I'm around |
| [03:04:55] | savage1: | about to fall asleep |
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| [03:17:18] | rothga1: | can someone help me get schedule info for my channels? |
| [03:17:31] | rothga1: | only one of my channels has info for it, the rest are just unknown |
| [03:19:04] | rothga1: | please :) I am using zap2it on mythtv .20 and qam 256 |
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| [03:20:37] | wireddd_: | does the mediamvp work as well as a normal frontend? |
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| [03:27:08] | rothga1: | exit |
| [03:27:13] | rothga1: | doh |
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| [03:54:47] | tryrt: | okay so i have everything working except my capture card, all i get is static |
| [03:55:03] | tryrt: | pvr 150 and ivtv |
| [03:55:34] | xris: | tryrt: freq table set properly? |
| [03:55:36] | RyeBrye: | OVer some TV shows – static is an improvement, you should be grateful |
| [03:56:05] | tryrt: | ivtv-tune -tus-cable -c 3 |
| [03:56:19] | RyeBrye: | Does ivtv-radio -f 102.7 (or any freq that is a station in your area) work for anyone with a PVR-500? |
| [03:56:28] | xris: | tryrt: firmware files installed properly? |
| [03:56:52] | RyeBrye: | I can scan for radio stations in ivtv-radio, and see signal strength in gnomeradio... but no sound is to be heard :( |
| [03:57:11] | tryrt: | i believe so |
| [03:57:16] | tryrt: | i am using knoppmyth |
| [03:57:21] | tryrt: | and i checked for firmware files |
| [03:57:25] | tryrt: | and they looked in order |
| [03:57:29] | RyeBrye: | dmesg | grep ivtv show any errors? |
| [03:57:30] | tryrt: | but that would seem illegal to tme |
| [03:57:38] | tryrt: | no it all looks good |
| [03:58:12] | savage1: | I hate alsamixer |
| [03:58:18] | savage1: | everytime I do an install it's muted |
| [03:58:22] | savage1: | why would it default to mute |
| [03:58:23] | savage1: | ugh |
| [03:58:33] | RyeBrye: | hm... the fact you got knoppmyth to even install means you got farther than i did with it... I ended up bailing on it and going to a different distro |
| [03:58:57] | siXy: | savage1, google unmuting alsa at boot. |
| [03:59:19] | savage1: | sixy: it stays unmuted on reboot, that's not what I mean |
| [03:59:24] | savage1: | I'm saying like each individual box OI do |
| [04:00:26] | siXy: | oh. well yeah thats not a big problem then unless you are doing lots of boxes in which case you should be imaging not installing from scratch anyway |
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| [04:00:39] | savage1: | yeah, I wish |
| [04:00:44] | savage1: | just my box and a friend or twos |
| [04:00:52] | savage1: | I'm working on network boot now |
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| [04:06:50] | rothga1: | where is the channels.conf file located by default? |
| [04:08:04] | RyeBrye: | When I build myth from the svn source, some of my ./configure options are ignored... such as --enable-lirc will show up as a "NO" in the list even when I tell it explicitly to enable it |
| [04:08:10] | RyeBrye: | and same with Nvidia XVMC support |
| [04:08:26] | RyeBrye: | Is there something I'm missing? |
| [04:08:58] | savage1: | here where does lircd.conf go? |
| [04:09:10] | RyeBrye: | ~/..mythtv/ |
| [04:09:14] | RyeBrye: | err – one . |
| [04:09:26] | RyeBrye: | iirc that is |
| [04:09:31] | siXy: | no. lircd.conf goes in /etc/ |
| [04:09:51] | siXy: | lircrc goes in ~/.mythtv/ |
| [04:10:21] | RyeBrye: | Oh |
| [04:10:23] | RyeBrye: | my bad |
| [04:10:57] | savage1: | it's all good |
| [04:10:58] | savage1: | thanks |
| [04:10:59] | savage1: | peace |
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| [04:13:46] | tryrt: | what is a good remote + ir tower/dongle setup? |
| [04:15:09] | tryrt: | or if not ir what then? |
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| [04:19:09] | RyeBrye: | Tryrt – do you have a serial port? |
| [04:19:15] | tryrt: | yeah |
| [04:19:32] | tryrt: | i think i read that lirc doesnt support usb |
| [04:19:34] | RyeBrye: | Do you need to control any boxes like a DirecTV box or a Dish Network box via IR? |
| [04:19:41] | tryrt: | nope |
| [04:20:00] | RyeBrye: | Then a simple USB -> IR serial thing is pretty easy to acquire |
| [04:20:13] | RyeBrye: | you can either make one yourself or buy one for around $20 total (after shipping) |
| [04:20:29] | RyeBrye: | A guy in Germany makes and sells them, and some guy in New Jersey does too |
| [04:20:43] | RyeBrye: | I bought mine from the dude in New Jersey, it works fine |
| [04:20:57] | Zider: | lirc do support usb, but not very many devices, iirc |
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| [04:21:26] | Zider: | RyeBrye: internal or external usb? |
| [04:21:36] | RyeBrye: | Oh – I didn't mean USB -> IR |
| [04:21:37] | RyeBrye: | sorry |
| [04:21:40] | siXy: | lirc supports mce usb and streamzap usb remotes – they are by far the wo most common usb ir remotes |
| [04:21:40] | RyeBrye: | I meant Serial -> IR |
| [04:21:45] | Zider: | ah |
| [04:21:50] | Zider: | RyeBrye: internal or external serial? |
| [04:21:51] | Zider: | :P |
| [04:22:07] | siXy: | but i would reccomend the snapstream firefly as its rf not ir |
| [04:22:17] | RyeBrye: | Err... I didn't mean Serial – I meant I yell at my 5 month old son until he hits the keys on the keyboard ;) |
| [04:22:26] | RyeBrye: | and yes – he's external |
| [04:22:33] | Zider: | RyeBrye: internal or external son? |
| [04:22:34] | Zider: | ;) |
| [04:22:37] | Zider: | ah |
| [04:22:50] | RyeBrye: | Yeah |
| [04:23:00] | RyeBrye: | He was cheaper than an internal version and has more expansion options |
| [04:23:04] | Zider: | :D |
| [04:23:06] | RyeBrye: | My wife had him internal for a while |
| [04:24:21] | Zider: | my ex has an internal.. dunno if it's male or female connector tho.. she's upgrading to external soon.. |
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| [04:25:15] | RyeBrye: | Yeah... that process is tough. It could be done with a dremel but it leaves the case in an awful condition. It's best to take it in for that kind of work |
| [04:26:02] | Zider: | I have a dremel, but I doubt she'd appreciate it.. |
| [04:26:13] | Zider: | or, dremel-like tool |
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| [04:26:56] | siXy: | women generally respond poorly to power tools, in my experiance |
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| [04:27:13] | Zider: | not my power tool :P |
| [04:27:30] | siXy: | :O |
| [04:27:40] | Zider: | ;) |
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| [04:30:55] | infinity1: | my mythbox more or less works and is recording, but for the life of me i can't figure out how to watch what is currently being recorded! |
| [04:31:06] | infinity1: | it just says "mythtv is already using all available inputs for the channel you selected" |
| [04:31:21] | siXy: | infinity1, go to recordings |
| [04:31:49] | infinity1: | media lib -> recordings? |
| [04:32:02] | siXy: | yeah |
| [04:32:18] | infinity1: | and then? |
| [04:32:32] | sphery: | Watch Recordings |
| [04:32:40] | infinity1: | k. been here. |
| [04:32:42] | sphery: | Menu (I think) |
| [04:32:53] | sphery: | Change to LiveTV recording group |
| [04:32:54] | sphery: | watch |
| [04:32:58] | sphery: | ? |
| [04:33:09] | infinity1: | hmmm .. |
| [04:33:11] | infinity1: | ohhh |
| [04:33:12] | sphery: | s/to LiveTV/to Default/ |
| [04:33:28] | infinity1: | i think there was a filter applied or something. argh |
| [04:33:32] | infinity1: | thanks. i think i get it :) |
| [04:33:33] | sphery: | YEah |
| [04:33:37] | sphery: | On the FAQ |
| [04:33:46] | infinity1: | that was super annoying |
| [04:34:18] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frequent . . . ecordings.3F |
| [04:34:50] | infinity1: | now to transcode stuff .. |
| [04:35:10] | infinity1: | ahahha ...i recorded the daily show and i have COPS instead |
| [04:35:23] | infinity1: | uuuhh .. |
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| [04:36:22] | Pryon: | Argh. For some reason I'm now burning DVDs that won't play in the standalone player (also xine needs handolding now too). Grrr. |
| [04:36:52] | infinity1: | hmmm it seems myth didn't change the channel before starting to record? |
| [04:36:58] | infinity1: | is that possible? |
| [04:37:10] | sphery: | infinity1: sure, with the right mis-configuration |
| [04:37:24] | sphery: | What do you use for a source? tuner? S-Video? Composite? |
| [04:38:31] | infinity1: | tuner |
| [04:38:42] | sphery: | Did you set a channel change script? |
| [04:38:48] | infinity1: | hmmm ..ok. i seem to remember something about channel change in myth-setup |
| [04:39:01] | sphery: | Make sure you do /not/ set a value for the channel change script. |
| [04:39:13] | sphery: | Otherwise, you'll have to write a script to do the channel change outside of Myth. |
| [04:39:20] | infinity1: | oh. i didn't. |
| [04:39:22] | sphery: | With tuner, it's better to let Myth do it. |
| [04:39:37] | sphery: | You're positive? |
| [04:39:58] | infinity1: | checking |
| [04:40:25] | sphery: | You can verify from mysql with: "SELECT externalcommand FROM cardinput;" |
| [04:41:41] | infinity1: | 1 row selected. blank output. |
| [04:42:11] | infinity1: | in mythsetup, the external change command is also blank. |
| [04:42:15] | sphery: | OK. |
| [04:42:29] | sphery: | Analog or digital TV? |
| [04:42:34] | infinity1: | analog |
| [04:42:41] | infinity1: | pvr-250 |
| [04:42:47] | sphery: | (by TV I meant signal--but you got that) |
| [04:43:01] | infinity1: | yea ...analog signal |
| [04:43:05] | sphery: | Location in the world? (North America) |
| [04:43:11] | infinity1: | california |
| [04:43:40] | sphery: | OK, did you create channels using 'Retrieve channels from listings source" button instead of "Scan for channels" |
| [04:43:52] | infinity1: | i did it using scan channels |
| [04:43:52] | sphery: | With analog (at least in the US), you should /not/ use "Scan for channels" |
| [04:43:58] | infinity1: | oh :) |
| [04:43:59] | sphery: | That's probably the issue |
| [04:44:10] | sphery: | Your channels are probably mis-configured |
| [04:44:27] | sphery: | To fix it, you need to shut down mythfrontend and mythbackend |
| [04:44:32] | sphery: | Then start up mythtv-setup |
| [04:44:37] | sphery: | Then go to Video Sources |
| [04:45:04] | sphery: | Then use the Delete All button (it /has/ to be the Delete All button--otherwise deleting won't delete the broken data) |
| [04:45:12] | sphery: | to delete all the video sources |
| [04:45:22] | sphery: | Then, re-create your video source(s) |
| [04:45:38] | sphery: | Then, re-assign inputs (in Input Connections) |
| [04:45:51] | sphery: | Then, "Retrieve channels from listings provider" |
| [04:45:57] | infinity1: | oh. i was going to rescan. whew. |
| [04:46:43] | infinity1: | k retrieved linups. |
| [04:46:46] | infinity1: | er lineups |
| [04:46:46] | sphery: | Yeah, you don't want to do that. |
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| [04:46:57] | sphery: | Still in the video sources? |
| [04:47:11] | infinity1: | yea. |
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| [04:47:14] | sphery: | OK |
| [04:47:37] | infinity1: | so don't retrieve in the video source when recreating the Cable video source? |
| [04:47:39] | GreyFoxx: | Err Sphery is correct, RyeBrye the rumour isn't :) |
| [04:47:41] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [04:50:16] | sphery: | infinity1: When creating the video source, you need to retrieve the lineups |
| [04:51:13] | sphery: | Then, in the page that has "Scan for channels" and "Fetch channels from listings source" (I think it's Input Connections), use "Fetch channels..." |
| [04:52:10] | infinity1: | k |
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| [04:53:48] | infinity1: | i have 7 minutes. ahh |
| [04:53:53] | infinity1: | gotta record house. heh |
| [04:55:50] | sphery: | type fast... |
| [04:55:51] | sphery: | :) |
| [04:56:13] | infinity1: | i think i have to repopulate the backend. |
| [04:56:17] | infinity1: | that takes forever... |
| [04:56:29] | infinity1: | oh. there is a today only option i tihnk |
| [04:57:02] | sbrath: | poll: Pentium D 945 (dual core/ht) vs Athlon 64 X2 4200 ? |
| [04:57:02] | sphery: | If all else fails, there's always: dd if=/dev/video0 of=/recordings/directory/House-20061114.mpg bs=1M |
| [04:57:44] | sphery: | I just hooked up my Athlon 64 X2 4800+ and it takes <40% of one core for 1080i with kernel deint |
| [04:57:51] | sbrath: | Or do I really not nead that much power on the master box. ( Not I want to rip all my DVD's and maybe convert everything to mpeg4).. |
| [04:58:00] | sbrath: | s/Not/Note |
| [04:58:01] | rothga1: | can someone please help me find my VID, AID, and PID of a couple HD channels? is that info in zap2it |
| [04:58:32] | sphery: | sbrath: high-def or standard? |
| [04:58:38] | rothga1: | high-def |
| [04:58:44] | rothga1: | QAM_256 to be specific |
| [04:58:52] | sphery: | backend only or combined frontend and backend |
| [04:59:10] | rothga1: | I want to try to import a channels.conf file but I am learning as I go |
| [04:59:25] | robbins876: | is there a channel for rhythmbox? |
| [04:59:37] | rothga1: | combined frontend and backend |
| [04:59:49] | sbrath: | unless a pchdtv card can see the HD on my Charter cable service, it will just be the few OTA channels, and then the rest via DVR-150's |
| [05:00:18] | sphery: | will the system play them back or not? |
| [05:00:26] | sphery: | (i.e. frontend also on the same CPU) |
| [05:00:35] | sbrath: | for now, it will. |
| [05:00:53] | sphery: | I have an Athlon XP 2400+ for my backend and the Athlon X2 4800+ (which is overkill) for my frontend. |
| [05:01:04] | sbrath: | unless a P3–400 with a DVR-150 or a nVidia 6200 would sufice for playback. |
| [05:01:07] | sphery: | Will probably also have a slave backend with an Athlon XP 2000+ |
| [05:01:31] | sphery: | Might work for SDTV, but it's not worth the time, IMHO. |
| [05:01:48] | sphery: | (it will be slow on the menus and all) |
| [05:02:36] | sbrath: | you're refering that the P3–400 isn't worth making the frontend.. (It's a Compaq SFF and small and quiet ) |
| [05:02:48] | sphery: | Right |
| [05:03:22] | sbrath: | will the pchdtv card see the DTV signal over Charter Cable? |
| [05:03:24] | sphery: | Yeah. Backend doesn't take much CPU for PVR-x50's or HDTV capture. |
| [05:04:11] | sphery: | The commflag and transcoding take some CPU, but I'll farm some of that out to my frontend, too with mythjobqueue |
| [05:07:21] | infinity1: | man. this myth stuff has a steep learning curve |
| [05:07:28] | infinity1: | wait. anything linux does. heh |
| [05:07:30] | robbins876: | infinity1: for sure |
| [05:08:32] | sbrath: | What distro you running it on? That can make it easier or harder. |
| [05:08:38] | infinity1: | ubuntu |
| [05:08:56] | infinity1: | i've done debian for the past 5 years . this is my first time on ubuntu |
| [05:09:02] | sbrath: | one of the knoppix ones would seem to be easier.. |
| [05:09:07] | robbins876: | myth on Fedora was not hard |
| [05:09:07] | ** sbrath uses gentoo ** | |
| [05:09:34] | infinity1: | it seems the only really hard/annyoing thing so far is the lirc |
| [05:10:07] | sbrath: | isn't that the remote control thing? |
| [05:10:56] | infinity1: | ya |
| [05:11:37] | infinity1: | i started with myth about 2 weeks ago. just got a pvr-250 today ..so now i'm in another new world |
| [05:11:41] | robbins876: | infinity1: it's not so bad |
| [05:12:08] | infinity1: | just when i was comfortable with myth ...all these TV options |
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| [05:13:03] | infinity1: | i must say ..it should be a lot easier to watch live-tv ... |
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| [05:16:28] | infinity1: | sphery: k. it appears your suggestion was a great one |
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| [05:16:38] | infinity1: | now my channels are labeled better too |
| [05:17:43] | robbins876: | myth is probably one of the better programs ever made |
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| [05:18:15] | infinity1: | seems pretty good so far. seems the TV portion of myth is the most polished. |
| [05:18:25] | infinity1: | i wish the mp3 player was better |
| [05:18:26] | robbins876: | of course |
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| [05:18:54] | infinity1: | is there a playlist editor outside of the tv interface for the mp3 player? |
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| [05:24:35] | robbins876: | infinity1: To be honest, I don't ahve a lot of experience with the mp3 functions of myth |
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| [05:56:28] | RyeBrye: | !seen conreyt |
| [05:56:28] | MythLogBot: | conreyt was last seen 1 day 1 hour 47 minutes 37 seconds ago |
| [05:56:38] | ** RyeBrye wonders if he ever got mfd working ** | |
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| [05:58:37] | savage1: | hello all |
| [05:58:56] | savage1: | I got this problem where my channel guide has the right channels/programs but it's 5 hours late |
| [05:59:03] | savage1: | like it doesn't think it's the right time |
| [05:59:19] | savage1: | and I told my machine the right time during setup so I'm sure all is good w/ the system time |
| [05:59:23] | savage1: | anyone know how to deal with that |
| [06:02:14] | opello: | computer's timezone is right? |
| [06:04:32] | RyeBrye: | Neither the Hauppauge WinTV cards or the WinTV USB 2.0 tuner work with Myth, right? |
| [06:05:00] | savage1: | opello: yeah, eastern us |
| [06:05:03] | RyeBrye: | CompUSA is going tobe selling them cheap on black friday, and they would work in nicely to my upcoming blog post "Build a MythTV box on Black Friday for cheap" |
| [06:05:17] | savage1: | I even did an auto upgrade to retry and make sure that wasn't it, verified the time and the zone |
| [06:07:22] | savage1: | any ideas? |
| [06:07:32] | opello: | RyeBrye: wintv cards to (bttv driver, i think) but they are not the hardware mpeg encoder cards) |
| [06:07:37] | RyeBrye: | Gotcha |
| [06:08:38] | RyeBrye: | I'm not buying it for myself... I'm just using it for a novelty blog post... but CompUSA will be selling those cards (WinTV Go) for $15 on black friday... |
| [06:08:49] | RyeBrye: | (I think part of the sale is a MIR – but I can't read the fine print on the adscan) |
| [06:09:21] | opello: | nice |
| [06:09:45] | opello: | i got one for $10 on sale a while back, parents like it in their desktop |
| [06:09:48] | savage1: | man this sucks |
| [06:09:52] | savage1: | I can't figure out why it's doing that |
| [06:10:26] | RyeBrye: | is it a problem with UTM or something? Did you tell your computer to use UTM? |
| [06:10:41] | RyeBrye: | some server setups will turn that option on... iirc |
| [06:11:11] | RyeBrye: | GeForce 6660 256 Meg AGP or PCI-e card for $69 – no rebates... |
| [06:12:00] | savage1: | rye: utm? |
| [06:12:04] | opello: | utc? |
| [06:12:09] | RyeBrye: | OH |
| [06:12:10] | RyeBrye: | yeah |
| [06:12:12] | RyeBrye: | Maybe utc |
| [06:12:16] | opello: | but if `date` returns correct he should be good |
| [06:12:29] | RyeBrye: | hmm... good point |
| [06:12:36] | opello: | sounded like he had /etc/localtime all symlinked up |
| [06:12:36] | savage1: | what is utc? |
| [06:12:45] | RyeBrye: | universal coordinated time |
| [06:12:46] | opello: | coordinated universal time |
| [06:12:49] | savage1: | k |
| [06:12:51] | opello: | heh |
| [06:12:55] | opello: | it's french? |
| [06:12:58] | savage1: | so that's like synching my time w/ nasa or soimething riht? |
| [06:13:01] | RyeBrye: | something like that :) |
| [06:13:05] | opello: | it's just a time zone |
| [06:13:12] | savage1: | k |
| [06:13:20] | savage1: | what commands can I try to get this fixed |
| [06:13:24] | savage1: | I'm dying here |
| [06:13:29] | RyeBrye: | what distro? |
| [06:13:30] | opello: | does `date` return the right local time? |
| [06:16:03] | RyeBrye: | savage1 – "halt" is always a good one to make it stop whatever it is doing... but it wont necessarily fix the problem ;) |
| [06:16:20] | opello: | now none of that :p |
| [06:16:32] | ** RyeBrye reminds you that halt will turn it off ** | |
| [06:18:37] | RyeBrye: | Anyone use the Microsoft Wireless Desktop with myth? |
| [06:18:40] | savage1: | hehe |
| [06:18:41] | savage1: | I know |
| [06:18:45] | savage1: | sorry I was trying something |
| [06:18:48] | RyeBrye: | it's okay |
| [06:18:59] | savage1: | what do you think this is |
| [06:19:03] | RyeBrye: | did "date" return your current time? |
| [06:19:04] | savage1: | where do I log on at zap2it |
| [06:19:06] | savage1: | I can't find login |
| [06:19:11] | savage1: | that's who I made the account w/ right |
| [06:19:16] | savage1: | to get my guide data direct |
| [06:19:44] | RyeBrye: | Yeah, those are the people... but I don't know how to login.. is it not http://zap2it.com |
| [06:19:48] | RyeBrye: | ? |
| [06:20:02] | savage1: | yeah but there's no login |
| [06:20:04] | savage1: | I'm confused rofl |
| [06:20:41] | adante: | my mythbackend log is filling up with 2006-11–15 16:19:48.070 GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame g. Dropping. |
| [06:20:47] | adante: | - every second or so.. what is this? |
| [06:22:27] | savage1: | labs.zap2it.com |
| [06:23:12] | savage1: | yeah there's no time settings there |
| [06:24:28] | infinity1: | savage1: labs.zap2it |
| [06:24:42] | savage1: | i know dog |
| [06:24:43] | savage1: | it's not that |
| [06:24:48] | savage1: | there's no time settings there |
| [06:24:51] | savage1: | just pick the lineup |
| [06:24:56] | savage1: | it's something on my mythbox, gotta be |
| [06:24:58] | infinity1: | uhh ..yea. that sounds correct |
| [06:25:26] | infinity1: | somewhere there is an "auto" setting for timezone or something. i saw it when i was setting mine up today |
| [06:25:34] | infinity1: | in mythsetup or frontend |
| [06:25:35] | savage1: | k |
| [06:25:49] | savage1: | I thought I saw something that some point that had an offset setting |
| [06:25:51] | savage1: | gotta find it |
| [06:25:52] | savage1: | rebooting now |
| [06:25:54] | savage1: | hehe |
| [06:25:59] | savage1: | brb |
| [06:26:01] | infinity1: | you don't have to reboot |
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| [06:37:42] | wireddd_: | so whats the story with using a mediamvp as a frontend? are all mediamvps supported? does it have all of the features of normal frontend? |
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| [06:51:23] | wireddd_: | does anyone use these things? |
| [06:57:12] | juski: | from what I know of the MVP it doesn't act like a normal frontend |
| [06:57:33] | juski: | for one thing it'll only play back mpeg2 (or mpeg1 !) video |
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| [06:58:48] | juski: | the 'frontend' as such, is just a player for livetv & mythtv recordings as far as I know. The MVP app then has all the usual guff for playing music & photos from network shares |
| [06:59:23] | wireddd_: | all I really care about is live tv and recordings |
| [06:59:45] | juski: | it might not even do livetv for all I know – check their webpage |
| [07:01:07] | juski: | here you go: "You can watch and delete your recordings, as well as view the upcoming recording schedule. You can also watch live tv on any available tuner. Additional functionality, such as scheduling of recordings, commercial skip, etc are not supported at this time." |
| [07:01:40] | juski: | then on another page they say that scheduling is now supported |
| [07:02:40] | wireddd_: | hmm |
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| [07:03:21] | juski: | if you want a small light frontend & don't mind some hacking maybe the MSNTV2 would be better for you |
| [07:03:27] | wireddd_: | maybe |
| [07:04:07] | juski: | I've got 2 of these www.juski.co.uk/s100/ – don't use either of them yet since their front panels need modding to take a DVD drive |
| [07:04:47] | juski: | I was tempted by the MVP for a while- it looks great for what it is |
| [07:04:56] | wireddd_: | I don't need a dvd drive |
| [07:05:16] | juski: | and now apparently you can use VLC at the server end to allow you to transcode divx/xvid (etc) so you can watch them on the MVP |
| [07:06:43] | kambei: | Is there a recommended method for playing video from network shares? |
| [07:06:59] | wireddd_: | hmm, that might be just the ticket |
| [07:07:06] | juski: | I think what put me off buying one at the time I was looking for a small frontend was the fact you need to set up a tftp server & DHCP on your myth box. I'm over that now seen as I have a diskless frontend :) |
| [07:07:15] | juski: | kambei: what do you mean? |
| [07:07:35] | kambei: | Just playing normal video over an NFS mount, for example. |
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| [07:07:55] | juski: | kambei: in mythvideo,, all your videos have to be in the same location they are kept on every frontend |
| [07:08:27] | juski: | so if your videos live in say /media/movies , then you have to mount the share of that dir to the same place on every frontend |
| [07:08:58] | juski: | I use Xine personally but the Internal (note the capital 'I') player apparently works well too |
| [07:09:13] | kambei: | And Myth will play the video fine over a network? |
| [07:09:23] | juski: | depends on the network |
| [07:09:42] | juski: | I have wired 100 base ethernet here & it's fine |
| [07:09:50] | kambei: | Okay. |
| [07:11:14] | kambei: | Thanks. |
| [07:11:21] | juski: | np :) |
| [07:11:36] | juski: | right, time to go to work |
| [07:11:41] | kambei: | Have fun. |
| [07:19:29] | wireddd_: | I think I would rather setup a tftp server than flash the msntv2 |
| [07:23:09] | kraut: | moin |
| [07:24:05] | infinity1: | ok. i got lircd loaded, irw shows ouk in mth. what use the remote. but it doesn't work in mth. what next? |
| [07:25:28] | Dagmar: | What the hell are you saying? |
| [07:25:55] | infinity1: | sorry :) |
| [07:26:04] | kambei: | hahahaha |
| [07:26:26] | infinity1: | ok. i got lircd loaded, irw shows output when i use the remote, but the remote doesnt work in mythfrontend. what next? |
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| [07:26:43] | infinity1: | my laptop pauses every once in awhile and garbles my typing |
| [07:26:57] | Dagmar: | How about doing the _rest_ of configuring lirc |
| [07:27:06] | infinity1: | i haven't figured that out. |
| [07:27:12] | Dagmar: | It's in the documentation. |
| [07:27:16] | infinity1: | do i link lircd.conf to .mythtv/lirc |
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| [07:28:20] | kambei: | Do you have a lircrc? |
| [07:28:35] | Dagmar: | He would if he'd been reading the documentation |
| [07:29:14] | kambei: | You expect him to RTFM? |
| [07:29:37] | kambei: | Why should he do that when he can have you tell him what to do step-by-step? |
| [07:30:17] | Dagmar: | He can't. |
| [07:30:38] | Dagmar: | I now *ignore* questions which would involve me pointing at the documentation. |
| [07:30:40] | infinity1: | are you guys arguing over my RTFMing abilities |
| [07:30:52] | Dagmar: | I don't think we're arguing. |
| [07:31:22] | infinity1: | getting lirc working was the hardest part so far with this thing |
| [07:31:28] | kambei: | We're having a friendly discussion. |
| [07:31:47] | infinity1: | heh |
| [07:31:55] | kambei: | infinity1: My memory is hazy at best, as I have only set up Myth once, and that was a couple of months ago. |
| [07:32:00] | Dagmar: | Oh, well, if it's working then you don't have a problem |
| [07:32:32] | Dagmar: | This is *the* last time I am ever doing this: |
| [07:32:33] | Dagmar: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html#ss8.4 |
| [07:34:15] | infinity1: | tnx |
| [07:34:20] | infinity1: | yea. looks like its working now |
| [07:35:04] | Dagmar: | The docs really do explain everything people need to do, step by step, which is why it KILLS me that people will waste their own time and other people's by ignoring them. |
| [07:36:00] | infinity1: | no comment on linux docs :) |
| [07:38:51] | infinity1: | doh. i rebooted and now the remote doesnt work . |
| [07:39:01] | kambei: | is lirc started? |
| [07:39:06] | kambei: | There is an lirc daemon |
| [07:39:09] | infinity1: | dunno yet |
| [07:39:12] | kambei: | What distro? |
| [07:39:58] | Dagmar: | n00buntu probably |
| [07:40:09] | infinity1: | ubuntu. /etc/init.d/lirc start says starting but it doesn't actually start |
| [07:40:12] | kambei: | Dagmar: What do you use? |
| [07:40:30] | kambei: | infinity1: ps aux | grep lirc |
| [07:40:32] | Dagmar: | Slackware. |
| [07:40:38] | kambei: | Good distro. |
| [07:40:45] | Dagmar: | I build GNOME for it. |
| [07:40:58] | kambei: | Dagmar: GNOME on your Myth box? |
| [07:41:09] | kambei: | Or as a workstation? |
| [07:41:15] | Dagmar: | Well, GNOME is installed on my Myth box, but that's because I was lazy about how I installed X |
| [07:41:16] | infinity1: | yea. lirc isn't running |
| [07:41:50] | kambei: | infinity1: what happens when you run sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start ? |
| [07:42:30] | kambei: | Dagmar: Do you use anything other than Myth through your TV? |
| [07:42:32] | infinity1: | kambei: it says starting. but it doens't actual start |
| [07:42:49] | infinity1: | fixed. |
| [07:43:02] | infinity1: | changed /etc/lirc/hardware.conf to MODULES="lirc-i2c" |
| [07:43:29] | infinity1: | Dagmar: that wasn't documented :P |
| [07:43:31] | infinity1: | :) |
| [07:43:51] | kambei: | That may very well be an Ubuntu-specific issue. |
| [07:44:08] | wireddd_: | its in debian too i believe |
| [07:44:14] | kambei: | Well, same thing. |
| [07:45:05] | kambei: | Every time I set up LIRC, I promptly forget everything I just did. |
| [07:45:29] | kambei: | Doesn't really help me too much the next time I have to set it up. |
| [07:46:28] | Dagmar: | infinity1: Whatever whacked out things your distro does are your responsibility to look up in *their* documentation |
| [07:46:52] | infinity1: | Dagmar: yes. i'm aware of that. just giving you a hard time :) |
| [07:46:56] | Dagmar: | kambei: LIRC beats the holy hell out of implmenting it all yourself in perl |
| [07:47:12] | kambei: | No doubt. |
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| [07:48:00] | kambei: | I just done it so many times, and I always seem to have to re-read the docs. You'd think I would remember. |
| [07:49:00] | kambei: | Insofar as setting up the config files, and such. |
| [07:49:07] | wireddd_: | I wish the debian/debian based packages would just install and setup all of this stuff |
| [07:51:16] | wireddd_: | is there even debian specific documentation |
| [07:52:45] | wireddd_: | guess not |
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| [07:53:08] | wireddd_: | I may have to take it upon myself to document it |
| [07:53:26] | Dagmar: | Not a bad idea actualkly |
| [07:53:39] | Dagmar: | You will begin to see what the problem with lirc is when you do. |
| [07:55:26] | pat_: | with mythtv 0.19 I applied Max Barry's patch to improve scheduling of consecutive programs with the global preroll and postroll options to use all tuners available at http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/255 this patch wasn't incorporated into 0.20, is there a patch available that does a similar thing? |
| [07:55:55] | wireddd_: | well I run etch, and use all of the debian packages. installation is not easy |
| [07:56:40] | wireddd_: | and there is alot that is not in the mythtv documentation that I assume is specific to debian |
| [07:57:18] | pat_: | ie, two tuners, channel "A" at 6:00–7:00, channel "B" at 7:00–8:00 with global preroll of 1min and postroll of 10min. Default result is that it ignores the pre and post roll and records on one tuner, the patch gave an option to use all tuners as appropriate |
| [07:57:53] | Dagmar: | So you've verified that this wasn't put into 0.20-fixes? |
| [07:58:00] | pat_: | Dagmar: yes |
| [07:58:05] | pat_: | umm, no |
| [07:58:07] | pat_: | umm :) |
| [07:58:26] | pat_: | can you give me a pointer of where to check if it has? |
| [07:58:41] | Dagmar: | Schedule some recordings. |
| [07:59:14] | pat_: | it isn't in the precompiled debs at deb http://apt.hypnogogic.org dapper-hypnogogic mythtv |
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| [08:01:11] | infinity1: | can you skip commercials while watching the delayed version of something being recorded? |
| [08:02:05] | Dagmar: | No. |
| [08:02:08] | charlieS: | if you hit the right arrow 4–6 times :) |
| [08:02:40] | infinity1: | cuz commflag hasnt run yet ..right? |
| [08:03:22] | Dagmar: | Exactly. |
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| [08:08:30] | pat_: | Look at the 'softpad' branch. I use it to to solve exactly this problem |
| [08:08:40] | pat_: | where do I find the "softpad" branch? |
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| [08:23:40] | juski: | softpad? |
| [08:24:06] | juski: | ahhh |
| [08:24:43] | juski: | where you find the other branches of course |
| [08:24:45] | juski: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/softpad |
| [08:27:40] | pat_: | it looks like what I want to test, but not knowing much about compiling and the like I'll need to get one of my friends who codes for a living to build me a binary |
| [08:28:19] | pat_: | (trying to do anything apart from extract source debs, patch them and rebuild is beyond me) |
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| [08:50:03] | juski: | it's not that hard |
| [08:51:14] | juski: | can't be that hard if I can do it |
| [08:51:40] | pat_: | I've downloaded the softpad branch |
| [08:51:58] | pat_: | I'm downloading the 0.20 trunk/mythtv branch |
| [08:52:21] | pat_: | I'll diff them and then try to patch that against the source tree that has all the debian stuff |
| [08:52:27] | pat_: | can only break it all |
| [08:52:30] | pat_: | :) |
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| [09:11:32] | mcquaid: | I have a particular show where for now, I want to keep all of them, I can only seem to shut off auto expire one at a time |
| [09:12:01] | mcquaid: | is there a more efficient way to flag a whole show (with numerous eps) to not expire? |
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| [09:15:47] | juski: | mcquaid: add the group they're part of to a playlist then use the playlist options to set them all to not expire :) |
| [09:16:03] | mcquaid: | cool thx |
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| [09:16:19] | juski: | 1. select the programme group 2. press M to add em to a playlist 3. press M again & select playlist options :) |
| [09:20:02] | mcquaid: | hmm, well i seem to have to add each ep one at a time to the playlist |
| [09:20:32] | juski: | no, press left, then press menu |
| [09:20:37] | juski: | add the whole group |
| [09:21:26] | mcquaid: | ahh i got it thx |
| [09:21:37] | juski: | handy for mass deletions too ;) |
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| [09:24:24] | Dagmar: | Now we need a key for digging mass graves. |
| [09:24:29] | juski: | delete * from recorded where groupname="wife's"; |
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| [09:27:26] | mcquaid: | i noticed something though, once I do one show I can't seem to do another without exiting out of 'watch recordings' and going back in to do another show |
| [09:28:06] | juski: | yeah exiting 'watch recordings' clears the playlist |
| [09:28:48] | mcquaid: | ok so thats by design that I have to leave and go back in to do another show? |
| [09:29:10] | juski: | shouldn't be |
| [09:29:32] | juski: | if you just add all the show groups to one playlist THEN set the options, maybe that'd work instead |
| [09:33:43] | mcquaid: | yes I think I get it now |
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| [09:36:14] | Dagmar: | juski: If you have to dig a mass grave for your wives, you have much larger problems than a fancy PVR is going to solve. |
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| [09:43:11] | juski: | arghhh fucking pcb cad engineers. apparently they like to choose their _own_ pin designations for these connectors rather than follow the connector manufacturer's suggested pin numbering scheme |
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| [10:07:10] | Dagmar: | juski: That's how they justify their salary, man. They come up with a unique solution that makes the technology 'theirs' for the company, instead of adhereing to something sane and reasonably compatible |
| [10:07:31] | Dagmar: | Otherwise it's "he didn't design all this, he borrowed half of it. Sack his lazy bum." |
| [10:07:39] | Dagmar: | s/bum/arse/; |
| [10:08:34] | Dagmar: | A friend of mine designed a PBX card for his company--he actually got criticized by the bizdev manager for using common, practically off the rack chips to make it all go. |
| [10:08:51] | juski: | yeah & if they didn't habitually piss everybody else off in the process they'd get no job satisfaction I suppose |
| [10:09:59] | Dagmar: | I'm thinking they should have just run with it instead of bitching because how else do you make a PBX muxing card that will have driver support and will _work_ in less than a month |
| [10:10:06] | juski: | bastard firefox has crashed again |
| [10:10:25] | Dagmar: | Meh. I want my single tab killer button again |
| [10:10:32] | Dagmar: | That's the one thing I don't like about FF 2.0 |
| [10:10:37] | juski: | Dagmar: lol. typical marketing/management moans |
| [10:10:42] | Dagmar: | No longer can I have 75 tabs up at once |
| [10:11:07] | Dagmar: | Someone should make some of those devs filter through ebay somtime |
| [10:11:21] | Dagmar: | They'd get the smaller tab without each one having a kill button back in a flash |
| [10:11:37] | Dagmar: | ...at least as a configurable option like it was at one point in the past. |
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| [10:17:58] | juski: | bah. bloody online ordering sites that make you fucking register just to get a quote. evil, EVIL |
| [10:18:18] | juski: | show me the damn price already! |
| [10:18:39] | Dagmar: | Could be worse |
| [10:18:57] | Dagmar: | I got spam from a home gardening site this evening. |
| [10:19:24] | Dagmar: | I look forward to their explanation as to a) where the hell they got my email address, and b) why their email does not comply with the CAN-SPAM regulations. |
| [10:20:00] | Dagmar: | Unsolicited commercial email (to be legal in the US) must be tagged in a specific way as unsolicited commercial email, so that it can be filtered out. |
| [10:20:09] | juski: | hmmm. delivery cost.. unknown. ten out of ten for making my blood boil |
| [10:20:28] | Dagmar: | Hey if you have to ask, then you're not a good revenue source for them. :) |
| [10:22:16] | juski: | I have to ask because every single req. I make has to be correct to the nearest penny or purchasing will spit it out like the useless jobsworths they are |
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| [10:27:56] | juski: | tfm is here! |
| [10:28:10] | juski: | now people can read it before asking questions :-P |
| [10:28:24] | tfm: | greetings |
| [10:28:25] | tfm: | ;) |
| [10:29:33] | Dagmar: | Well, I see a nickname, but no text. |
| [10:29:36] | Dagmar: | How very odd. |
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| [10:30:07] | omarkj: | Good day. |
| [10:30:27] | Dagmar: | I need bright, candy-colored icons to tell me what to do damnit! |
| [10:30:30] | ** Dagmar strokes out. ** | |
| [10:31:07] | omarkj: | I was wondering if anybody has any experience in using mythTV, or any other open source project, as a, well, what is it called, information screen display system. |
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| [10:31:39] | juski: | you mean like doing slideshows of pictures? |
| [10:31:50] | omarkj: | Well, more than just slideshows. |
| [10:32:00] | juski: | or some means of your company making money out of an open source project? |
| [10:32:16] | omarkj: | If I only owned the goddamn company. |
| [10:32:23] | juski: | heh |
| [10:32:42] | juski: | describe what you mean by 'information sreen display system' |
| [10:32:45] | omarkj: | Sure. |
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| [10:33:14] | Dagmar: | MythGallery does a slideshow, but frankly you'd be better off just using gThumb or something with a regular old nVidia card. |
| [10:33:17] | Dagmar: | Much less trouble. |
| [10:33:21] | ** juski wonders how much of this corporate attention mythtv is getting is down to the booth at the LW expo ** | |
| [10:33:48] | Dagmar: | Obscurity is good. |
| [10:33:54] | Dagmar: | Obscurity does not attract lawyers. |
| [10:34:13] | omarkj: | I am looking for a solution, or something I can make work, that would allow me to have multiple information screens running at differnet places using a central server to distribute text to show, images and video clips. |
| [10:34:47] | Dagmar: | omarkj: There's about, oh, four or five... million ways that can be done. |
| [10:34:48] | omarkj: | I know I'll have to do some programming to get what I want, but I am ofcourse going to release whatever I do under your preferred licence. |
| [10:34:57] | omarkj: | Dagmar: That's what I thought. |
| [10:35:18] | Dagmar: | ...although really i'd suggest using a pull approach, rather than trying to push data out to client sites. |
| [10:35:33] | Dagmar: | Pull scales better. |
| [10:36:10] | Dagmar: | Stick up a webserver with simple htaccess controls, and stuff it with the scripts and media files and let the remote sites simply poll it and download applicable updates. |
| [10:36:56] | Dagmar: | If you wanted to be especially highbrow about it, you could use an SVN server (or rsync if you like pain) and facilitate incremental updates to save bandwidth. |
| [10:37:34] | omarkj: | Yeah, I think that would be a more fun approach really. |
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| [10:38:29] | omarkj: | Anyway, has mythtv been recieving some attention lately ? |
| [10:38:36] | Dagmar: | I bit, here and there. |
| [10:39:13] | Dagmar: | I dread it because I like MythTV, and I'm pretty damn sure that if past history of other related things is any indication, the moment that attention passes beyond a certain threshold, the lawsuits will begin. |
| [10:39:30] | omarkj: | Yes, I understand what you mean.+' |
| [10:39:31] | Dagmar: | The first of which is almost bound to be an accusation that MythTV promotes and facilitates video piracy. |
| [10:40:10] | Dagmar: | Then according to pattern will come the whining that it's taking money from advertisers and broadcasters alike by allowing people a way to avoid watching commercials. |
| [10:40:43] | omarkj: | That's likely. |
| [10:41:13] | Dagmar: | The trac server is likely to wind up being hosted in Brazil or Argentina or Sweden. |
| [10:41:35] | omarkj: | We've got pretty liberal laws here in Iceland. |
| [10:41:41] | omarkj: | Still, anyway. |
| [10:42:33] | Dagmar: | Maybe someone will get smart and try to outlaw lawsuits that serve no purpose but to prop up weakening businesss models. |
| [10:43:04] | Dagmar: | ...and maybe a large bag of money will fall from the sky through the moon roof of my car, and land neatly in the passenger's seat. |
| [10:43:15] | omarkj: | I think that's more likely. |
| [10:43:20] | Dagmar: | Me, too. |
| [10:44:03] | juski: | I think you'd get further with a bunch of scripts, nfs media shares & telnet |
| [10:44:14] | juski: | dirty but quick & effective |
| [10:44:48] | Dagmar: | wget+apache is quick and doesn't involve the "security" of portmap |
| [10:45:08] | omarkj: | I actually might end up using RSS to deliever some data to the clients. |
| [10:45:16] | Dagmar: | Not a bad idea |
| [10:47:20] | omarkj: | Anyway, I don't know who to thank, but I'm using mythtv at home as a PVR system and it works like a charm.. So thanks. |
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| [10:50:03] | juski: | thank the community :) |
| [10:50:31] | juski: | that includes everybody then ;) |
| [10:51:42] | omarkj: | Ahm, I know how it works. Even if I do have a day job at a rather evil Microsoft dominated company (it's amazing what power that company has to, it seems, brainwash people) I try to spend my evenings helping out in a few open source solutions. : ) |
| [10:53:10] | juski: | I'll be going for a dive into the source in an hour or so |
| [11:01:45] | omarkj: | Sounds like fun. |
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| [11:07:35] | juski: | yeah. looking at the dvb recorder class to see if there's anything I can do to chuck away audio streams I don't want |
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| [11:12:30] | pat_: | ok, seems after my errands tonight I got all the patches applied for the softpad branch, and I'm away compiling |
| [11:12:35] | pat_: | hope the bloody thing works |
| [11:16:30] | Dagmar: | error: ld was unable to locate libcojones.so |
| [11:20:52] | pat_: | well that compile bombed out |
| [11:21:40] | juski: | I'd raise a bug report for this bug but I dunno if it's really a bug or not yet |
| [11:21:50] | juski: | fear the ire of the the developers! |
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| [11:24:33] | duckeo: | can anyone help to troubleshoot a segfault in mythtvupdate? |
| [11:24:43] | juski: | actually no, its more about not being bothered to file a bug which will be closed immediately with a 'worksforme' solution |
| [11:24:45] | duckeo: | running on debian-latest_amd64 |
| [11:26:27] | juski: | compile it with debugging support enabled & run it under gdb like the docs say to do, maybe? |
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| [11:47:03] | juski: | hmm. just looked in the recordingprofiles table & I can't see how changing the dvb recoding type to 'tv only' affects anything |
| [11:50:28] | juski: | I see the GUI stuff in the code but can't determine where it changes a setting |
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| [12:36:14] | juski: | ahh so what I want to do can't easily be done |
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| [12:36:37] | juski: | myth tells the driver which PIDs to filter by their type |
| [12:36:46] | juski: | bah |
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| [12:57:49] | pat_: | /usr/include/GL/glx.h:45:19: error: GL/gl.h: No such file or directory |
| [12:57:59] | pat_: | where would I even begin to look for that file? |
| [12:58:09] | juski: | opengl headers |
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| [12:59:04] | pat_: | glitz-glx1-dev or libglut3-dev? |
| [13:00:12] | juski: | no idea |
| [13:00:22] | juski: | apt-get build-dep mythtv mythplugins :) |
| [13:01:36] | Dibblah: | emerge mythtv;swear --amount lot; svn up http://svn.mythtv.org/mythtv;./configure;make;make install |
| [13:01:38] | pat_: | didn't include mythplugins in that command before... |
| [13:01:50] | Dibblah: | ;) |
| [13:04:00] | quicksil1er: | does bluray/HD have more colour depth than DVD? |
| [13:04:10] | juski: | yep. cos HD does |
| [13:04:50] | quicksil1er: | how much? |
| [13:05:07] | juski: | and no, mythtv doesn't support either of them yet because no foo has risked incarceration due to violating the DMCA |
| [13:05:11] | ** quicksil1er nods ** | |
| [13:05:33] | quicksil1er: | how much is the colour depth difference? and is it pleasantly noticeable in your opinion? |
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| [13:05:49] | juski: | no idea. it's all bollocks designed to get us to buy more stuff anyway |
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| [13:06:08] | ** quicksil1er nods ** | |
| [13:06:27] | juski: | it'll be in some faw or other somewhere though |
| [13:06:33] | juski: | faq, even |
| [13:07:16] | Dagmar: | Too many colors as it is |
| [13:07:23] | quicksil1er: | I was after a subjective opinion and I've come to expect juski to be opinionated :) |
| [13:07:41] | Dagmar: | How the hell are we supposed to verify that we're getting sixty-five THOUSAND colors out of our video cards now? |
| [13:08:12] | quicksil1er: | count them! |
| [13:08:19] | Dagmar: | We could be gettin gypped and be coming up a two or three short as a cost-cutting measure and no one would ever know |
| [13:10:44] | juski: | like any flat panel display would have the kind of dynamic range necessary to be able to discern that many colours anyway |
| [13:11:04] | juski: | bollocks & hogwash :-P |
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| [13:23:35] | juski: | gonna upload an mpeg stream later on for some folks to test. need to determine if my playback problem originates in the recording or playback |
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| [14:10:43] | fryfrog: | juski: I'd be happy to test your mpeg on my gentoo system and my newly should be working soon ubuntu system :) |
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| [14:13:00] | juski: | fryfrog: just need to get home & upload it |
| [14:13:11] | juski: | oh wait I could use that online thingy |
| [14:14:21] | juski: | if I can just remember what it's called |
| [14:15:11] | seth|laptop: | new mpeg? |
| [14:15:31] | juski: | ah spreadit.com |
| [14:15:50] | juski: | no it's a recording I have problems playing back on my epia box |
| [14:16:29] | juski: | you got your badgers yet btw? |
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| [14:18:00] | seth|laptop: | not as of yesterday, but the wife will get the mail today, and she is to call me when they arrive. Can't wait |
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| [14:18:38] | mcquaid: | I trying to adjust playback brightness but 'f' doesn't bring up any adjustment options |
| [14:19:05] | mcquaid: | i'm wondering if it's not using hardware overlay and maybe this could be the cause? |
| [14:19:07] | juski: | mcquaid: you need to enable em first.. 'use xv picture controls' |
| [14:19:19] | seth|laptop: | the reason I asked about the mpeg, is I have a presentation coming up for my myth stuff, and I currently have a button on my harmony set to play LWMythPromo, for demo purposes, and I thought maybe there was a new version. |
| [14:19:30] | juski: | nah |
| [14:19:44] | juski: | been way too busy with www.juski.co.uk/pg/comingsoon.htm |
| [14:20:53] | seth|laptop: | sweet |
| [14:21:04] | mcquaid: | ok thx i'll look into that |
| [14:21:21] | juski: | mcquaid: look at the wiki sometime too |
| [14:21:23] | seth|laptop: | thats really sharp |
| [14:21:36] | seth|laptop: | are they concept, or is this an actual working box? |
| [14:21:45] | juski: | working |
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| [14:22:22] | Merlin83b: | Looks nice, juski. Not sure on the pic of loads of VCRs though :) |
| [14:22:39] | juski: | they can be changed. you're the 2nd person to say that |
| [14:22:45] | juski: | Merlin83b: just the man actually |
| [14:22:49] | Merlin83b: | Eek |
| [14:23:04] | juski: | do you have problems playing back recordings which have the audio description track? |
| [14:23:15] | juski: | with xvmc & deinterlacing enabled? |
| [14:23:26] | Merlin83b: | I don't think so – I don't have any problems with playback apart from bfsq pauses these days. |
| [14:23:36] | juski: | I'm uploading a clip which gave me gappy playback on my epia box |
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| [14:23:50] | Merlin83b: | I'll check it for you when I get home :) |
| [14:23:52] | juski: | when I strip the extra audio track out of the streams they play fine |
| [14:24:07] | juski: | you still using an adapted knppmyth? |
| [14:24:11] | Merlin83b: | Yep |
| [14:24:21] | juski: | is it quick at booting? |
| [14:24:25] | Merlin83b: | No. |
| [14:24:27] | Merlin83b: | Not even a little bit. |
| [14:24:31] | juski: | ouch |
| [14:24:47] | Merlin83b: | I haven't timed it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was over a minute, perhaps over two. |
| [14:24:47] | juski: | might give it ago just to see if it'll play the files okay |
| [14:24:52] | Merlin83b: | I go away and do other things. |
| [14:24:53] | juski: | jesus |
| [14:25:19] | quicksil1er: | I keep meaning to poke around and see how fast its possible to make booting |
| [14:25:27] | quicksil1er: | but I never find time, so I just leave the box running 24/7 instead |
| [14:25:28] | juski: | I hope the file finishes uploading before I go offsite |
| [14:25:49] | juski: | I tried a slack mythtv distro for the s100 box & it was up in less than 20 secs |
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| [14:26:04] | juski: | that's less than STB boot times |
| [14:27:13] | mcquaid: | juski, sorry i was trying to find that in the wiki didn't see it |
| [14:27:35] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, I've seen people say they have amazingly fast boot times which would be nice. Like quicksil1er I leave it on 24/7 though so not so much of an issue. |
| [14:27:44] | mcquaid: | well, i've enabled it, but trying to adjust brightness with the arrow keys just results in the brightness value going from 50 to -1 |
| [14:27:50] | Merlin83b: | Thinking of putting a FE in the bedroom which would be turned off when not in use. That would need to boot up fast. |
| [14:27:57] | seth|laptop: | my knoppmyth boots slow because of the LVM setting, it scans every possible drive designation, takes like 1–1/2 minutes to boot |
| [14:28:19] | mcquaid: | it mentioned it doesn't work on all systems, but i'd think a somewhat modern nvidia card would have proper xv support |
| [14:30:19] | juski: | yeah well knopp's kernel isn't optimosifilied either so that won't help |
| [14:30:22] | juski: | probing hardware... |
| [14:30:24] | juski: | probing hardware... |
| [14:30:25] | juski: | probing hardware... |
| [14:30:45] | seth|laptop: | it does load up everything but the kitchen sink, but that is why it is so easy to use, heh |
| [14:31:13] | juski: | so's slack |
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| [14:32:35] | Inkubot: | MythTV can work without a TV card ? it's necesary ? |
| [14:33:02] | juski: | read the FAQ |
| [14:33:11] | ]-[all: | Inkubot: not |
| [14:33:40] | juski: | it's not necessary, but the FAQ tells you that |
| [14:34:17] | mcquaid: | is there anything i can check regarding issues with xv? I've enabled it but only get a -1 value when trying to adjust |
| [14:34:28] | mcquaid: | card is a geforce 6200 |
| [14:34:42] | mcquaid: | using nvidia's binary |
| [14:37:18] | ]-[all: | justki: do you know if mythtv supports live transcoding? |
| [14:37:52] | juski: | Merlin83b: http://www7.spread-it.com/dl.php?id=d1a6f5c91 . . . a53c43b13f97 |
| [14:38:05] | juski: | ]-[all: no |
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| [14:38:09] | juski: | it doesnt |
| [14:38:11] | mcquaid: | nm, i just tried xv adjustments in other players and it's not working either so I have some other issue |
| [14:38:22] | Merlin83b: | juski: If that's your MPEG you want testing, tell me again when I get home and ask :) |
| [14:38:34] | juski: | mcquaid: like something to do with the fact it's a 6200 ;) |
| [14:38:55] | juski: | cheers Merlin83b :) |
| [14:39:02] | mcquaid: | heh, ya not the fastest but I'd expect hardware overlay to work fine |
| [14:39:08] | fysa: | I don't think Xv adjustments work well on my 6150 either.. nvidia-settings works I believe though. |
| [14:40:29] | fysa: | Is it possible to specify a different internal decoder for MythVideo? I want "Internal" as default, but "Internal:decoder=XvMC" for .ts. |
| [14:41:22] | juski: | fysa: does it not just use the default setting from the tv playback settings? |
| [14:41:30] | fysa: | yeah, it just uses the default settings.. |
| [14:42:27] | fysa: | and XvMC is kind of buggy, so I'd like to _only_ use it for .TS (usually 1080i for me) |
| [14:42:43] | fysa: | I don't believe there's a way to specify internal playback/decoder settings in MythVideo yet. |
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| [14:52:25] | GreyFoxx: | I don't believe there is anyway to configure it to do that |
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| [15:02:37] | sPiN-: | heeeey every body :) |
| [15:02:53] | sPiN-: | upgrading to .20 thought id come shoot the breeze while it compiles |
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| [15:11:19] | ** seth|laptop install knoppmyth in a sabayonlinux/gentoo/vmware machine, as he cannot get myth to compile ** | |
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| [15:13:48] | _are_: | Hi |
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| [15:25:17] | fryfrog: | Anyone know if kernel 2.6.17-10–386 or kernel 2.6.17-10-generic is the one you should boot from? |
| [15:25:29] | fryfrog: | in Ubuntu, 6.10 that is |
| [15:25:47] | seth|laptop: | 386 will be optimized for i386 arch, generic, will be universal |
| [15:26:11] | seth|laptop: | either one will work, but 386 will load modules specifically for that arch |
| [15:26:17] | fryfrog: | well, that i understand :/ |
| [15:26:51] | seth|laptop: | like on my ubuntu, I have amd64-generic, and amd64-k8, I boot k8 as it is optimized for my cpu |
| [15:26:54] | seth|laptop: | if that helps |
| [15:26:55] | fryfrog: | but on say an athlon-xp (686), is one better than the other? |
| [15:27:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [15:27:08] | seth|laptop: | generic was what was installed by default I think I added the k8 one |
| [15:27:15] | fryfrog: | it looks like the "default" is the 386 one |
| [15:27:20] | seth|laptop: | ah |
| [15:27:30] | fryfrog: | but that was only after my first boot |
| [15:27:37] | seth|laptop: | wow |
| [15:27:43] | fryfrog: | first boot went to generic, i think 386 got added when i isntall nvidia? |
| [15:27:51] | fryfrog: | or some ivtv drivers maybe |
| [15:27:58] | seth|laptop: | I only had generic , failsafe and memtest on mine |
| [15:28:01] | fryfrog: | there is *only* 386 and "generic" kernels |
| [15:28:16] | fryfrog: | yeah, thats all i had |
| [15:28:30] | fryfrog: | but i think when i apt-get installed nvidia module or something else, it added the "386" kernel |
| [15:28:45] | fryfrog: | er, maybe automatix2 did it |
| [15:29:07] | seth|laptop: | probably brought down the 386 restricted modules, hence needing the kernels |
| [15:29:12] | fryfrog: | Ubuntu did happily let me create a RAID1 that was missing half of itself! |
| [15:29:15] | fryfrog: | ahhhh |
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| [15:29:27] | fryfrog: | I feel dirty not running a kernel compiled for my platform :( |
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| [15:29:30] | fryfrog: | SO DIRTY! |
| [15:29:38] | seth|laptop: | sometimes ubuntu can be wicked wierd, hehe |
| [15:29:39] | seth|laptop: | :-) |
| [15:29:40] | fryfrog: | gonna have to take a gentoo shower :) |
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| [15:31:52] | seth|laptop: | you want dirty, try sabayonlinux, graphical gentoo install, 4 desktops, xgl and beryl, all the good apps, in just under an hour, it was over so quick, I though I had to pay someone, hehe |
| [15:32:02] | psofa: | anyone knows whats the difference between diseqc and diseqc (uncommited)? |
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| [15:36:08] | psofa: | err are diseqc switches supposed to work in myth (lastish trunk) |
| [15:37:27] | fryfrog: | those things that rotate anennas? |
| [15:37:33] | fryfrog: | there is a setting for it |
| [15:37:36] | psofa: | no |
| [15:37:37] | fryfrog: | oh, sorry |
| [15:37:46] | psofa: | a switch that selects between 2 ports |
| [15:37:54] | fryfrog: | i forget the option, but its in mythtv-setup |
| [15:37:58] | psofa: | i know there are some settings in recording |
| [15:38:05] | psofa: | but it doesnt seem to worl |
| [15:38:07] | psofa: | work |
| [15:38:38] | psofa: | err |
| [15:38:40] | psofa: | nm |
| [15:38:41] | psofa: | :P |
| [15:41:09] | fryfrog: | I always thought it was a sat / ant rotating thing |
| [15:41:45] | psofa: | its also that thing |
| [15:42:24] | psofa: | hmm strange.When i push livetv myth cant tune.If i reselect a channel to tune it will tune fine. |
| [15:42:37] | psofa: | anyone getting the same with diseqc? |
| [15:45:54] | fryfrog: | can you point to anything describing diseqc? |
| [15:46:03] | fryfrog: | i'd just llike to know more about wtf it is :) |
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| [15:54:12] | psofa: | just google |
| [15:54:56] | psofa: | i think its just a protocol for dvb devices to send commands to varous stuff like rotors switches etc... |
| [15:55:04] | Inkubot: | someone use knoppmyth ? |
| [15:57:34] | seth|laptop: | I do |
| [15:57:48] | seth|laptop: | all 3 of my backends |
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| [16:02:39] | psofa: | anyone knows whats wrong with this? i just added a disecq switch.And when switching to the said input i cant get a lock.If i change channel im able to lock fine. |
| [16:02:42] | psofa: | http://pastebin.ca/249237 |
| [16:03:06] | psofa: | its as if disecq commands are not sent upon initial input locking |
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| [16:18:32] | fryfrog: | wow, wikipedia doesn't have a disecq entry |
| [16:19:12] | fryfrog: | is it disecq or diseqc |
| [16:19:12] | fryfrog: | ? |
| [16:19:39] | janneg: | fryfrog: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DiSEqC |
| [16:19:56] | fryfrog: | ah, i just had the letters reversed |
| [16:24:29] | juski: | re |
| [16:24:53] | juski: | so, do I put a HDD in my epia box now & start messing with umbongo or do I do some theming instead? hmmm |
| [16:25:21] | ivor: | why would you want to move away from netbooting? |
| [16:25:49] | juski: | because minimyth can't play this file: http://www7.spread-it.com/dl.php?id=d1a6f5c91 . . . a53c43b13f97 |
| [16:26:09] | juski: | or rather it can, but it pauses about every 20 secs |
| [16:26:35] | juski: | but when I remove the mono 64kbits audio description track with ffmpeg, it manages to play it just fine |
| [16:27:03] | juski: | so I'm thinking about trying ubuntu & seeing what I can accomplish in a better diagnosis |
| [16:27:37] | juski: | dunno if it's a via xvmc problem, an alsa issue or mythtv problem |
| [16:27:51] | ivor: | hmmm perhaps. |
| [16:28:14] | juski: | only see the problem when I deinterlace but not when I timestretch |
| [16:28:16] | ivor: | couldn't you stay netbooting but use your own distro instead of minimyth |
| [16:28:38] | juski: | oh god putting the hdd in there is just for ease of installation |
| [16:28:49] | juski: | if it turns out to be ok I'll netboot it |
| [16:30:00] | juski: | apparently knoppmyth doesn't exhibit the issue, so it might not be a mythtv bug |
| [16:32:17] | juski: | I had a look at the source today to see if there's any way I could hack it to chuck the AD track away, but I think myth just filters PIDs indiscriminantly based on what type they are, not their contents |
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| [16:36:16] | juski: | I can make a user job to run ffmpeg & mythcommflag --rebuild on all the recordings I make from BBC channels (which are the only ones affected it seems) but it's a PITA & I won't be able to watch an in-progress recording without annoying pauses |
| [16:36:27] | juski: | seems silly when it used to be perfect |
| [16:37:00] | Dagmar: | You can always prefix the user job with a nice command |
| [16:37:33] | juski: | user jobs don't run until after the recording is completed though |
| [16:37:48] | Dagmar: | Well, suprisingly, neither does commflagging |
| [16:38:04] | juski: | your point being? |
| [16:38:15] | Dagmar: | Blunted. |
| [16:38:43] | Dagmar: | Oh hey when you're looking at the cutlist editor, does your i-beam line up properly on the bar? |
| [16:39:08] | juski: | if the show has this pesky extra audio track I never wanted in the first place, I can't watch it without the annoying gaps, hence the need to run the user job on it ;) |
| [16:39:13] | juski: | dunno – never looked at it |
| [16:39:19] | Dagmar: | Mine has never been in the place where it's supposed to be. |
| [16:39:24] | juski: | you think the seektable might be screwy? |
| [16:39:29] | Dagmar: | I suppose I should do a screengrab of it and submit it as a bug |
| [16:39:39] | juski: | oh it's not connected. fair nuff |
| [16:39:44] | Dagmar: | No, it looks like it's strictly a graphical misalignment to me |
| [16:40:06] | Dagmar: | The seektable seems accurate "enough". I just wish it were frame-accurate. |
| [16:40:21] | juski: | though it might be worth running mythcommflag --rebuild on a 'gappy' recording – the problem might 'just' be the seektable |
| [16:40:40] | Dagmar: | Well, the i-beam is actually both horizontally *and* vertically misaligned. |
| [16:41:03] | juski: | but exactly why the seektable is getting mangled during recording would become another mystery to solve |
| [16:41:15] | juski: | Dagmar: prolly just some theme-fu is needed |
| [16:41:34] | Dagmar: | juski: That's what I'm figuring, but I've been assuming it's not themed at all. T hat might be incorrect. |
| [16:41:43] | juski: | Dagmar: oh it is |
| [16:41:52] | juski: | I think |
| [16:41:57] | juski: | doubting myself now |
| [16:42:02] | Dagmar: | Ah then this might be one of those 800x600 versus the 1024x768 I run it at things |
| [16:42:14] | Dagmar: | ...which is why i submitted that as a bug the other day (minor/trivial) |
| [16:42:34] | juski: | you bugger though.. you know how much bigger that's gonna make all the themes? |
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| [16:42:44] | Dagmar: | Yeah |
| [16:42:56] | juski: | my (as yet unfinished) 1280x720 theme weighs in at over 20MB now |
| [16:43:02] | Dagmar: | ...and that will go right away as soon as someone has the sense to change it all so it can handle scalable vector graphics. |
| [16:43:28] | juski: | but .. but... but... we'll have to use shitty icons then.. no photo-real ones :( |
| [16:43:31] | Dagmar: | You might want to think about lowering the accuracyu of the jpg encoding then. ;) |
| [16:43:46] | juski: | jpg doesn't let you have transparency |
| [16:43:50] | Dagmar: | juski: With gtk/gnome stuff, you can use pretty much any graphic format for anything. |
| [16:44:10] | juski: | so 'just' rewrite mythfrontend in gtk :) |
| [16:44:12] | Dagmar: | ...so you can drop svg in in place of png or jpg or gif and it "just works" |
| [16:44:13] | psofa: | err anyone knows where can i find the freq of sats to scan? |
| [16:44:23] | juski: | psofa: lyngsat |
| [16:44:26] | Dagmar: | If I had a bloody clue about some of the window nesting things I would have considered that |
| [16:44:42] | Dagmar: | ...and I'd do it in perl, too, just to bring the heat on the guys maintaining the gtk-perl bindings now |
| [16:44:54] | juski: | haha |
| [16:45:01] | Dagmar: | They're being lazy right now and letting everyone use Glade::XML, which is a bit of a hack |
| [16:45:17] | juski: | Glade? jesus. not seen that name for a long time |
| [16:45:22] | psofa: | juski, yeah lyngsat shows the freq of each channel but i cant find the general freq of the satellite :S |
| [16:45:35] | juski: | whoops. had it confuzzled with glide there for a sec |
| [16:46:44] | Dagmar: | But seriously, if I could do SVG this LCARS theme would be cake |
| [16:46:49] | juski: | hrm I wonder how much of my bothersome recordings are made up of non-audio & non-video packets |
| [16:47:02] | juski: | bleh vlc plays em ok so by rights so should myth |
| [16:47:03] | sPiN: | XvMC OpenGL sup. no |
| [16:47:24] | juski: | sPiN: turn that into a question & someone might answer it |
| [16:47:35] | Dagmar: | In any case, I don't see any reason why since it's *already rescaling every single element* when you start the frontend that they can't just add a toggle in the main ui element to let themes say whether or not they're targeted at 800x600, or 1024x768, or even 1000x1000 for that matter. |
| [16:47:36] | sPiN: | does that mean that i will not have openGL support? |
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| [16:47:54] | Dagmar: | sPiN: You expect that to work? |
| [16:47:54] | juski: | sPiN: no it means that xvmc will not use opengl textures |
| [16:48:11] | Dagmar: | I saw it was a "hidden" option in 0.20-fixes the other day and foolishly turned it on. |
| [16:48:15] | Dagmar: | Yay for black screens. |
| [16:48:23] | juski: | Dagmar: true. you could have a <baseres>fooxbar</baseres> tag |
| [16:48:39] | Dagmar: | --enable-xvmc seems about all that's safe to do, it auto-detects everything else |
| [16:49:03] | Dagmar: | Override it's detection at your own peril. |
| [16:49:14] | juski: | so ivor: you ever seen the gappy playback problem on recordings from beeb channels? |
| [16:49:18] | Dagmar: | I've no idea what --enable-xvmc-opengl is actually supposed to be compatible with |
| [16:49:27] | Dibblah: | It's not. |
| [16:49:36] | Dibblah: | Look at the commit log for that option. |
| [16:49:54] | Dagmar: | Well, I figured it's not safe by virtue of it doesn't work, and it's been commented out of the visible options. |
| [16:49:58] | Dagmar: | ;) |
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| [16:50:22] | Dibblah: | That would, indeed be a subtle clue. |
| [16:50:43] | Dagmar: | I should learn to not do these things when a program I wanna record is about to start tho |
| [16:50:47] | ivor: | OT today's humour: http://www.techatplay.com/2006/10/18/how-does . . . really-work/ |
| [16:51:05] | Dagmar: | There was a frantic bit of coax shuffling last night so I could at least watch the program in realtime. |
| [16:51:30] | sPiN: | thanks guys |
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| [16:52:49] | Dagmar: | ivor: How is that humor? |
| [16:53:20] | Dagmar: | Is this one of those "droll" things that's too European for me to wrap my yankee head around? |
| [16:53:30] | ivor: | Dagmar: how is that a "blackberry push email technology beater". basically. |
| [16:53:46] | Dagmar: | ivor: Well, it evades massive lawsuits I suspect. ;) |
| [16:53:51] | ivor: | lol. |
| [16:54:17] | psofa: | anyone knows where can i find the freq that myth needs to scan the sat for channels? |
| [16:55:26] | juski: | psofa: lyngsat shows a list of transponder freqs |
| [16:55:43] | juski: | digital channels on satellite aren't on a frequency per channel |
| [16:55:52] | psofa: | juski, i know |
| [16:55:58] | psofa: | i used to add the channels myself |
| [16:56:05] | psofa: | but i want myth to scan for them |
| [16:56:06] | juski: | so just pluck the freq data off of lyngsat |
| [16:56:28] | juski: | scan an initial transponder & if it lists any other transponder freqs myth will scan them too |
| [16:56:30] | psofa: | myth asks for one freq only inorder to scan all transponders for channels |
| [16:56:40] | Dibblah: | No... |
| [16:56:57] | Dibblah: | But once it's scanned the first one, it's populated the transponder list. |
| [16:57:09] | juski: | almost the same diff. |
| [16:57:12] | Dibblah: | So you can 'scan all transports' and it'll find the rest :) |
| [16:57:34] | juski: | point being that it'll find the other transports from just being given the one initially |
| [16:57:38] | Dibblah: | It's not automatic and it can be confusing, so I thought I'd better be verbose :) |
| [16:57:43] | psofa: | so i just need to enter one valid transponder? |
| [16:57:49] | juski: | in theory |
| [16:57:50] | Dibblah: | Yup. |
| [16:57:54] | psofa: | ah :P |
| [16:58:07] | juski: | but not all transponders carry the other transponders' freqs |
| [16:58:09] | psofa: | i thought there was a special one that listed all transponders ir sth |
| [16:58:23] | Dibblah: | ... As long as all the channels you want are from the same provider. |
| [16:58:39] | juski: | what's up with googling for the name of the satellite? |
| [16:58:44] | Dibblah: | (Sky UK, Digital+, etc. |
| [16:58:54] | psofa: | Dibblah, i want to scan for all channels |
| [16:59:00] | Dibblah: | You can't. |
| [16:59:07] | psofa: | huh? |
| [16:59:12] | Dibblah: | Well, you can, but not in the way you're thinking. |
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| [16:59:17] | a1fa: | omfg |
| [16:59:21] | a1fa: | mythweb is broken |
| [16:59:43] | a1fa: | Fatal error: Call to undefined function: backend_row() in /var/www/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php on line 238 |
| [16:59:48] | Dibblah: | Each provider only tends to list the multiplexes / transponders that it's using. |
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| [16:59:58] | juski: | you could scan with dvbscan across the whole freq. range which'd take a very long time, then import the channels.conf file into mythtv, then do some mysql-fu to get EIT to work |
| [17:00:01] | psofa: | Dibblah, when i wanted to scan hotbird i used the dvb scan utils.They used only one freq to scan everything |
| [17:00:08] | a1fa: | Revision: 11752 |
| [17:00:21] | Dibblah: | psofa: From 4 seed transponders, if I remember right. |
| [17:00:23] | a1fa: | mythweb is f0x0red |
| [17:00:26] | juski: | a1fa: I had similar problems. have you just upgraded mythweb? |
| [17:00:41] | a1fa: | yes |
| [17:00:50] | juski: | problem I had was caused by not copying all the stuff over properly |
| [17:01:12] | juski: | delete or otherwise get rid of the mythweb dir. & copy it again |
| [17:01:17] | a1fa: | ok |
| [17:01:19] | juski: | then chmod the 'data' dir |
| [17:01:32] | juski: | and chgrp of course ;) |
| [17:01:46] | juski: | (like it says to in the howto doc) |
| [17:01:57] | Dibblah: | Then customise your .htaccess if required |
| [17:02:07] | a1fa: | not necessary |
| [17:02:16] | a1fa: | its not internet facing |
| [17:02:35] | juski: | might be necessary if your myswl login details aren't the defaults ;) |
| [17:02:43] | juski: | s/myswl/mysql |
| [17:02:43] | Dibblah: | Great! I now know your mysql mythtv username / password! Thanks ;) |
| [17:03:16] | Dibblah: | Now, for step two of my plan towards world domination. Mwahahaha. |
| [17:03:23] | a1fa: | and what you gonna do about that |
| [17:03:25] | a1fa: | come to my home |
| [17:03:29] | a1fa: | and plug a keyboard |
| [17:03:35] | a1fa: | to a computer? |
| [17:03:40] | juski: | this is gonna be a good laugh. going to try knoppmyth on my frontend :) |
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| [17:03:42] | a1fa: | and still you wouldnt be able to do anything |
| [17:03:44] | Dagmar: | This is what AJAX is good for.... non internet-facing intranet sites |
| [17:04:02] | Dibblah: | a1fa: Relax. It was humor ;) |
| [17:04:16] | a1fa: | I'd cap your ass with my .40 glock |
| [17:04:20] | a1fa: | joke |
| [17:04:21] | Honk^away: | mhh.. why does my mythvideo have problems with ' in file names? :/ |
| [17:04:29] | a1fa: | juski : fixed.. cool |
| [17:04:49] | juski: | Honk^away: because you downloaded them from some 1337 w@r35 source you foo |
| [17:05:17] | Honk^away: | well.. errh.. actually the 's are supposed to be there :P |
| [17:05:26] | juski: | rename em to have proper linux filenames then |
| [17:05:39] | Honk^away: | that _are_ proper filenames |
| [17:05:40] | Dibblah: | Nothing wrong with a ` in filenames. |
| [17:05:49] | Dagmar: | juski: Are we sure the thing isn't using them as a field delimiter? |
| [17:06:03] | juski: | shouldn't be |
| [17:06:19] | a1fa: | juski : i am still fighting with random shutdowns.. no logs in kern.log or anywhere, for that matter |
| [17:06:34] | ivor: | heat? |
| [17:06:35] | a1fa: | juski : i upgraded my ivtv driver and now I upgraded nvidia driver, and mythtv |
| [17:06:40] | a1fa: | ivor : heat is at 30c |
| [17:06:43] | juski: | a1fa: try your PSU next |
| [17:06:51] | Dibblah: | a1fa: If you have multiple computers, I'd seriously suggest trying a serial console. |
| [17:07:01] | a1fa: | ivor : AMD64 3200+ and heat is at 30c |
| [17:07:05] | juski: | if it's something that came with your case, put it in the nearest bin now |
| [17:07:13] | juski: | before your house burns down |
| [17:07:21] | juski: | ;) |
| [17:07:21] | a1fa: | Dibblah : it would show up in ssh session |
| [17:07:29] | Dibblah: | No, it wouldn't. |
| [17:07:29] | a1fa: | juski : i had that happen the last time if you remember |
| [17:07:46] | Dibblah: | Not if it's a shutdown as you're describing. |
| [17:07:54] | a1fa: | juski : my AMD 1800+ ps caught on fire |
| [17:08:01] | Honk^away: | Love Hina Spring Special – 1 – Don`t Let the Blooming Blossoms Wither and Fall!.avi |
| [17:08:05] | a1fa: | the power supply burned the motherboard |
| [17:08:05] | Honk^away: | for example :P |
| [17:08:16] | a1fa: | "`" |
| [17:08:22] | a1fa: | ` |
| [17:08:28] | juski: | a1fa: might be time to buy a mains power conditioner & a new PSU too |
| [17:08:40] | a1fa: | power conditioner? |
| [17:08:43] | Honk^away: | the file's working just fine, mythvideo is acting up |
| [17:08:45] | Honk^away: | :| |
| [17:08:51] | juski: | Honk^away: just rename it |
| [17:09:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: It's a really, really cheap-ass form of UPS |
| [17:09:02] | Dibblah: | Honk^away: Are you using the internal player? |
| [17:09:18] | Honk^away: | mplayer %s |
| [17:09:25] | Honk^away: | juski: i want to have that filename |
| [17:09:28] | Dibblah: | Put " s arount the %s |
| [17:09:30] | Dagmar: | a1fa: If this PSU died in the machine that's rebooting on it's own now, I'd say it probably damaged the mainboard and/or CPU |
| [17:09:39] | Honk^away: | wouldnt that just mess up " in filenames? :P |
| [17:09:53] | Dibblah: | No. The quotes _should_ be stripped. |
| [17:10:22] | Dagmar: | %s is effectively one level of quoting deeper than the " around it |
| [17:10:23] | Dibblah: | Assuming you can see the difference between '' and " ;) |
| [17:11:08] | Dibblah: | Try it. If it works, have a beer. |
| [17:11:14] | Honk^away: | doesnt work :) |
| [17:11:15] | Dibblah: | If it doesn't... Have a few more. |
| [17:11:31] | juski: | after enough you won't care anymore :) |
| [17:11:34] | Honk^away: | that wont work either, i dont have any beer :) |
| [17:11:43] | juski: | in that case, PANIC! |
| [17:11:49] | Dibblah: | Of course, you could just use the fancy new Internal player ;) |
| [17:12:23] | juski: | you could just stop being mardy & rename the damn file. linux isn't a punctuation fascist |
| [17:12:42] | juski: | well, ermm... it is actually, but renaming the file will stop it being a bitch so much |
| [17:13:09] | Dibblah: | That's right. When it all gets heated, blame Linux. |
| [17:13:19] | Dibblah: | No, can't be the app ;) |
| [17:13:35] | GreyFoxx: | I blame PEnguins. |
| [17:13:41] | GreyFoxx: | They've had it too good for too long |
| [17:13:46] | Dibblah: | I blame Bush. |
| [17:13:48] | GreyFoxx: | down with Antartica! |
| [17:13:55] | GreyFoxx: | +c |
| [17:13:56] | Dibblah: | But then that's just too easy. |
| [17:14:05] | psofa: | Dibblah, i scanned on a specific provider transpoder.It only gave me the channs on this transponder.It didnt get the rest channels of the same provider |
| [17:14:09] | Honk^away: | Dibblah: i thought the internal player only played mpegs :p |
| [17:14:20] | juski: | so global warming is _good_ then? bad for penguins I mean :) |
| [17:14:21] | Dibblah: | psofa: As I said originally, |
| [17:14:22] | GreyFoxx: | Honk^away: It will play anything ffmpeg supports |
| [17:14:31] | Dibblah: | you need to scan all transports now. |
| [17:14:32] | Honk^away: | mhmh :] |
| [17:14:39] | psofa: | <Dibblah> ... As long as all the channels you want are from the same provider. |
| [17:14:41] | Honk^away: | whatever, i wanna stay with mplayer.. |
| [17:14:46] | juski: | doesn't cost you anything to _try_ it |
| [17:14:59] | Dibblah: | psofa: Go back and scan all transports. |
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| [17:15:23] | Dibblah: | The first scan (this is actually a bug) only populates the transport list. |
| [17:15:33] | Honk^away: | Internal segfaults *lol* |
| [17:15:50] | Honk^away: | or at least crashes :] |
| [17:15:51] | juski: | didn't cost you anything to try it though eh |
| [17:15:53] | Dibblah: | Bah. You need to get more-mainstream porn. |
| [17:15:56] | psofa: | Dibblah, ah lol |
| [17:16:00] | Dibblah: | That all works. |
| [17:16:01] | psofa: | it works :P |
| [17:16:04] | Dibblah: | Allegedly ;) |
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| [17:16:33] | psofa: | so right now it has only the list with the providers transponders? |
| [17:16:36] | juski: | Honk^away: what would be the problem in working around the issue by renaming the blummin file anyway? |
| [17:17:12] | juski: | I mean, it's only one file |
| [17:17:18] | Honk^away: | it's like 100 files |
| [17:17:28] | Honk^away: | and they're named the way they are automatically |
| [17:17:32] | Dibblah: | psofa: Yup. All of the dtv_multiplex table (well, most of it) is populated now. Scan all transports will go through each of the multiplexes and see what else it can see (adding any additional transports it comes across) |
| [17:17:35] | juski: | Perl to the rescue! |
| [17:17:46] | Honk^away: | i dont want to rename 'em :P |
| [17:17:51] | juski: | or any ole regex will do |
| [17:17:58] | symbolik: | my program guide is on crack |
| [17:18:06] | Honk^away: | what would i replace the ' in "I don't" with? |
| [17:18:08] | Honk^away: | for example |
| [17:18:11] | symbolik: | it kind of looks alright, but it doesn't match up as far as scheduling |
| [17:18:23] | Dibblah: | Honk^away: Just remove it. Most people do. |
| [17:18:35] | Honk^away: | Dibblah: i dont want to =) |
| [17:18:49] | symbolik: | when do you suspect your cable provider may be the one to blame for crappy program guides? |
| [17:18:49] | Dibblah: | Now who's being the punctuation nazi? |
| [17:18:58] | Honk^away: | oh btw.. "%s" doesnt play any file at all |
| [17:19:05] | Dibblah: | Honk^away: Nice. |
| [17:19:07] | juski: | Honk^away: try putting the whole of the player command in quotes, e.g. "mplayer foobar choofoo %s".. I dunno if that'd work |
| [17:19:44] | Honk^away: | i doubt that :) |
| [17:19:44] | Dibblah: | Ah. Err... Apologies. |
| [17:20:16] | juski: | Honk^away: then other than patching mythvideo there's sod all you can do other than rename the files |
| [17:20:39] | Dibblah: | I really, really must stop dragging out geopolitical slurs in a global channel :( |
| [17:20:41] | GreyFoxx: | Honk^away: What is being passed to your app ? |
| [17:20:41] | symbolik: | it got my provider right, postal code is all good, everything looks right asside from a slight skew in channels which i can probably fix manually but the schedule is all bunged |
| [17:21:12] | juski: | oh arse. my permanent marker has run out |
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| [17:21:44] | Honk^away: | GreyFoxx: which app? :) |
| [17:21:57] | GreyFoxx: | Whatever app you are spawning from mythvideo |
| [17:22:01] | GreyFoxx: | Or is it just a display problem? |
| [17:22:23] | Honk^away: | *shrug* |
| [17:22:30] | Honk^away: | no clue.. i'm just spawning mplayer :P |
| [17:22:43] | Honk^away: | i'm trying to find out right now, but i killed my X in the process :P |
| [17:22:43] | Dibblah: | How were / when were these recordings imported into mythvideo? |
| [17:22:53] | juski: | GreyFoxx: I think it's just that the filenames are causing mythvideo to miss bits out of the filename |
| [17:23:10] | juski: | Edaftfilenames |
| [17:23:12] | Honk^away: | Dibblah: using the video manager |
| [17:23:16] | Honk^away: | just a few seconds ago =) |
| [17:23:22] | Dibblah: | Bugger. Okay. |
| [17:23:35] | Dibblah: | What do they look like in the DB? |
| [17:23:41] | juski: | time to try this livecd then... |
| [17:23:47] | GreyFoxx: | Honk^away: And you can't play them, how are they displayed in the interface? Full proper name or is it cut off too ? |
| [17:24:21] | Honk^away: | the display is fine |
| [17:24:29] | Honk^away: | errh.. looks like my app isnt started at all |
| [17:24:55] | Dibblah: | Is it started OK with normal named files? |
| [17:24:57] | Honk^away: | i just placed a script in front that echoes the file name to a file :] |
| [17:25:21] | Honk^away: | works fine with "normal" files, doesnt output anything at all with the ' names |
| [17:25:33] | Dibblah: | Well, it won't. |
| [17:25:41] | a1fa: | juski : when is a flash player going to be included with mythtv |
| [17:25:47] | Dibblah: | Unless you're quoting it correctly inside your script. |
| [17:26:04] | Honk^away: | Dibblah: huh? |
| [17:26:18] | Dibblah: | The ' gets interpreted. |
| [17:26:34] | Dibblah: | And overrides your > |
| [17:26:52] | GreyFoxx: | mishehu: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' |
| [17:26:52] | GreyFoxx: | mishehu: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file |
| [17:27:02] | GreyFoxx: | oops, that auto completed to mishehu |
| [17:27:09] | Dibblah: | Yeah, that sort of thing. |
| [17:28:00] | Honk^away: | echo playing >> /dev/shm/test.txt |
| [17:28:03] | Honk^away: | better? :P |
| [17:28:06] | GreyFoxx: | hmmmm |
| [17:28:07] | Honk^away: | doesnt get executed either |
| [17:28:09] | GreyFoxx: | works for me |
| [17:28:12] | GreyFoxx: | I'm using xine |
| [17:28:21] | GreyFoxx: | and xine "%s" failes with the above error |
| [17:28:27] | GreyFoxx: | but : xine %s |
| [17:28:29] | GreyFoxx: | works fine |
| [17:28:30] | Dibblah: | Aha! We can blame mplayer :) |
| [17:28:39] | Honk^away: | we cant, i'm using a sh script right now :P |
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| [17:28:52] | GreyFoxx: | I don't have mplayer on this machine to test, Internal works, xine works |
| [17:28:56] | Honk^away: | a simple "echo playing >> ..:" |
| [17:29:05] | GreyFoxx: | filename "I don't care.avi" |
| [17:29:13] | Honk^away: | GreyFoxx: errh.. |
| [17:29:28] | kuse: | Hello, no matter what font size or theme I choose the text everywhere (in menus etc) are 2 large, who do I change that? |
| [17:29:35] | Honk^away: | ` <-- try that instead of ' |
| [17:29:49] | ivor: | kuse: change/check/set the X dpi |
| [17:29:57] | kuse: | ivor: 100x100 dpi |
| [17:30:03] | Dibblah: | kuse: Or change your theme. |
| [17:30:04] | GreyFoxx: | Why the hell would you have a backtick in a filename ? |
| [17:30:05] | kuse: | ivor: as it supposed 2 be |
| [17:30:17] | GreyFoxx: | Especially in place of a single quote ? |
| [17:30:17] | Honk^away: | GreyFoxx: i told ya.. they get generated automatically :P |
| [17:30:19] | Dibblah: | (Some themes use fixed-size fonts) |
| [17:30:19] | kuse: | Dibblah: but the change of theme doesnt matter |
| [17:30:32] | kuse: | Dibblah: ok |
| [17:30:35] | a1fa: | When is flash player going to be included with mythweb |
| [17:30:45] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: Someday, Maybe |
| [17:31:00] | a1fa: | wooot |
| [17:31:01] | Dibblah: | a1fa: As soon as you write it, submit a ticket, get it accepted,... ;) |
| [17:31:12] | Zider: | prolly not before the flash plugin works properly? ;) |
| [17:31:14] | ivor: | that's nothing do do with myth though.; that's up to whatever your distro installs with konqueror. |
| [17:31:23] | GreyFoxx: | Honk^away: I'd be very suprised if this doesn't require code changes as even just to rename the file to include the backtick I had to escape it at the commandline |
| [17:31:34] | Dibblah: | mythweb != mythbrowser ;) |
| [17:31:55] | Honk^away: | GreyFoxx: so teh code's buggy after all =D |
| [17:32:03] | ivor: | Dibblah: good point! :) |
| [17:32:08] | GreyFoxx: | No, bash interperates backticks |
| [17:32:33] | a1fa: | sour altoids <3 |
| [17:32:35] | GreyFoxx: | It's like having a double quote in afilename. Just cause you can do it doesn;'t make it a smart idea :) |
| [17:32:35] | Honk^away: | honk@server /mnt/shared/watching/ $ touch 'bob`bob' |
| [17:32:35] | Honk^away: | honk@server /mnt/shared/watching/L $ ls |
| [17:32:38] | Honk^away: | it doesnt *g* |
| [17:32:57] | Dibblah: | Thanks, but I'd rather leave your Bobs alone. |
| [17:33:19] | a1fa: | anyway to combine two partitions from two different hds? |
| [17:33:30] | a1fa: | software raid |
| [17:33:35] | Dibblah: | HVM |
| [17:33:46] | GreyFoxx: | Honk^away: The single quotes is the only reason you didn't have to escape it :) |
| [17:33:56] | GreyFoxx: | Honk this works with the backtick nanme |
| [17:33:59] | GreyFoxx: | xine '%s' |
| [17:34:05] | a1fa: | maybe raid 0 |
| [17:34:07] | GreyFoxx: | like I said, bash interperates it :) |
| [17:34:13] | GreyFoxx: | but the single quotes tells it not too :) |
| [17:34:29] | GreyFoxx: | so mplayer -fs -zoom '%s' or some such should work |
| [17:34:31] | Honk^away: | GreyFoxx: that's odd.. it didnt work for me |
| [17:34:58] | Dibblah: | Single quotes... |
| [17:35:04] | Dibblah: | I was wrong. Again. ;) |
| [17:35:45] | a1fa: | Is there any way to combine two directories into one? |
| [17:35:46] | GreyFoxx: | hehe it's the diff between echo "$HOME" and echo '$HOME' |
| [17:35:47] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [17:35:59] | a1fa: | Maybe via parition... raid 0? |
| [17:36:11] | Honk^away: | mplayer '%s' doesnt play any files at all :] |
| [17:36:15] | a1fa: | something like RHLVM |
| [17:36:16] | Dibblah: | a1fa: Why are you asking and not listening? |
| [17:36:26] | a1fa: | to who? |
| [17:36:42] | Dibblah: | RAID0 works. LVM works. |
| [17:36:47] | Dibblah: | Pick one. Do it ;) |
| [17:37:03] | a1fa: | how reliable is lvm |
| [17:37:08] | Honk^away: | i guess replacing ` with ' will work though |
| [17:37:13] | GreyFoxx: | Honk^away: try it from the commandline |
| [17:37:13] | Dibblah: | Lots of people use it. |
| [17:37:24] | Zider: | maybe he means merging two partitions with files already on them.. |
| [17:37:24] | GreyFoxx: | mplayer 'I don`t whatever.avi' |
| [17:37:47] | Dibblah: | ln -s ;) |
| [17:38:12] | Honk^away: | GreyFoxx: i know that works :P |
| [17:38:50] | GreyFoxx: | there is no function difference between mplayer '%s' and mplayer 'I don`t know.avi' |
| [17:39:03] | Dibblah: | a1fa: myth_archive_job.pl may be what you're actually wanting. |
| [17:39:09] | GreyFoxx: | %s is replaced with the file name and it's passed to the system to run |
| [17:39:21] | GreyFoxx: | which is why it works with xine '%s' here |
| [17:39:28] | a1fa: | what does it do? |
| [17:40:06] | Dibblah: | Tries to keep a certain level of space in your Myth recording directory. |
| [17:40:19] | Dibblah: | By archiving off "older" recordings to the other drive. |
| [17:40:28] | a1fa: | what if i want to watch them |
| [17:40:39] | Dibblah: | Geez. Read the script ;) |
| [17:40:44] | Dibblah: | It creates symlinks. |
| [17:40:44] | a1fa: | url? |
| [17:40:51] | psofa: | Dibblah, hmm now this got me a shitload of channels.What would i do if i wanted to scan only some transports without adding all these channels.Can i do "existining transport scan"? |
| [17:40:53] | Dibblah: | It's in /contrib. |
| [17:40:56] | a1fa: | cool |
| [17:40:59] | a1fa: | i'll check it out |
| [17:41:22] | Dibblah: | Scan single transport _may_ to what you want. |
| [17:41:24] | Honk^away: | Playing Love Hina – S1 – Motoko`s Choice, Love or the Sword – DON`T CRY.ogm. |
| [17:41:29] | Honk^away: | mplayer's starting just fine |
| [17:41:54] | Honk^away: | with 'filename`stuff.avi' |
| [17:42:06] | Dibblah: | psofa: But you're better just setting the not-visible flag on the channels you're not wanting. |
| [17:42:44] | a1fa: | does this script run in cron |
| [17:42:50] | a1fa: | or you run it manually? |
| [17:42:52] | Dibblah: | Should do. |
| [17:43:03] | psofa: | Dibblah, how im gonna do this? (sorry for being lazy..) |
| [17:43:22] | a1fa: | run in cron |
| [17:43:26] | Dibblah: | I can't remember. I did it through editing the channels table directly. |
| [17:43:40] | ** Honk^away sobs ** | |
| [17:43:44] | a1fa: | mythphone needs to have a bigger screen |
| [17:44:00] | a1fa: | when you watch tv, and phone comes in.. it should be more readable |
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| [17:46:19] | a1fa: | i am just going to add two more 500 gb hard disk |
| [17:46:40] | a1fa: | or 4 hard disks, set them as raid 0 |
| [17:46:45] | Dibblah: | psofa: mysql -p mythconverg -e "update channel set visible=0;" |
| [17:46:47] | a1fa: | 500*4 = 2tb |
| [17:46:47] | psofa: | Dibblah, i know i can do it via mythweb |
| [17:47:01] | Dibblah: | Assuming you have more channels that you're NOT interested in ;) |
| [17:47:09] | psofa: | Dibblah, ah that makes sense |
| [17:47:28] | Dibblah: | Then flip the interesting ones in Mythweb. |
| [17:47:40] | Dibblah: | Then you've got the fun of filling in the xmltvids. ;) |
| [17:48:06] | Dibblah: | a1fa: I wouldn't do that if I was you. |
| [17:48:24] | Dibblah: | Well, not with RAID0, anyway. |
| [17:48:39] | psofa: | Dibblah, nah thats not necessary.Besides the eit data works on astra fine |
| [17:48:39] | Dibblah: | RAID5 is the most popular option for that setup. |
| [17:48:51] | Dibblah: | 19.2 :( |
| [17:48:57] | Dibblah: | Not 28.5 :( |
| [17:50:14] | Dibblah: | But then... You're lucky. You have official CAMs, etc :( |
| [17:50:50] | psofa: | anyone using a diseqc switch? |
| [17:52:05] | psofa: | ive it setup properly however when switching to the relevant input i cant lock.If i try again (by selecting one channel even the same one it tried to tune) it works fine |
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| [17:54:02] | Dibblah: | psofa: hardware / kernel version? |
| [17:54:36] | psofa: | skystar2 dvb-s / 2.6.18-gentoo |
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| [17:56:27] | juski: | well well well guess what? knoppmyth plays the recordings juuust fine |
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| [17:57:08] | ** psofa is in deep server with his new sat ** | |
| [17:57:16] | psofa: | lol |
| [17:57:22] | psofa: | *deep shit |
| [17:57:28] | psofa: | i cant think while typing |
| [17:59:02] | Dibblah: | You got through the diseqc configuration trap, though? |
| [17:59:17] | psofa: | nope |
| [17:59:43] | Dibblah: | I mean you at least got that page to save... |
| [18:00:12] | psofa: | ??? |
| [18:00:22] | Dibblah: | The DVB connection tree. |
| [18:00:36] | psofa: | ah yes |
| [18:00:39] | psofa: | of cource |
| [18:00:41] | psofa: | :) |
| [18:00:47] | Dibblah: | You must have done, otherwise you wouldn't be scanning :) |
| [18:00:50] | psofa: | first time i didnt save |
| [18:00:56] | Dibblah: | Maybe try a different switch type. |
| [18:00:57] | psofa: | and it didnt work at all |
| [18:00:58] | psofa: | :P |
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| [18:01:30] | psofa: | Dibblah, other switches have no number of ports option so i suppose this cant be right |
| [18:01:43] | Dibblah: | It's a 2 port switch? |
| [18:01:46] | psofa: | yes |
| [18:02:01] | Dibblah: | And you're not stacking them? |
| [18:02:09] | psofa: | ? |
| [18:02:20] | Dibblah: | ie you don't have a switch attached to the output of a switch. |
| [18:02:25] | psofa: | nope |
| [18:02:29] | Dibblah: | (not counting the LNB switch) |
| [18:02:31] | juski: | so looks like I'll be dumping minimyth if Pablo can't find out what's up :( |
| [18:02:48] | psofa: | the switch attaches to 2 lnbs |
| [18:02:54] | Dibblah: | Try one of the other switch types. (A/B, etc) |
| [18:03:03] | psofa: | ok |
| [18:03:48] | Dibblah: | Although I'm not sure how that'd work with a universal LNB. |
| [18:05:10] | juski: | aye since universal LNBs use tones to control which band they're working on AFAIK |
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| [18:05:40] | juski: | and switches use tones to er.. switch AFAIK too |
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| [18:07:52] | psofa: | Dibblah, err |
| [18:07:56] | psofa: | now it doesnt work at all |
| [18:08:04] | psofa: | i cant see port2 at all |
| [18:08:56] | psofa: | btw thats what the backend says when using the diseqc |
| [18:08:58] | psofa: | http://pastebin.ca/249237 |
| [18:11:34] | psofa: | Dibblah, and thats with -v all |
| [18:16:30] | juski: | hahaha knopp crashed my backend |
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| [18:16:42] | Merlin83a: | juski: Still want that thing trying out? |
| [18:17:27] | juski: | Merlin83a: yeah please |
| [18:17:33] | juski: | http://www7.spread-it.com/dl.php?id=d1a6f5c91 . . . a53c43b13f97 |
| [18:18:09] | juski: | plays fine in knoppmyth here apart from it crashed my backend when I shut it down |
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| [18:18:42] | juski: | and by golly their boot process is ugly, but that's knoppix for ya |
| [18:19:01] | Merlin83a: | True – like I said thout, I power on and walk away :) |
| [18:19:19] | fryfrog: | Man, Ubuntu is the pretty! |
| [18:19:35] | juski: | well now I know the problem isn't necessarily myth, I'm gonna go for ubuntu then see if Pablo knows what's up with minimyth |
| [18:19:59] | Merlin83a: | Downloading now, 25 mins or so. |
| [18:20:11] | juski: | cheers fella :) |
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| [18:20:32] | fryfrog: | I suspect this weekend will see the convertification of my master and slave be :) |
| [18:20:55] | juski: | myth users are leaving gentoo in their droves... wonder why? |
| [18:21:20] | fryfrog: | prolly get tired of all the fiddling |
| [18:21:24] | juski: | if you never, _ever_ update anything I expect gentoo is ok like anything else |
| [18:21:30] | fryfrog: | yeah, for sure |
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| [18:21:40] | fryfrog: | but you feel dirty when you don't sync and update world every day or two :) |
| [18:22:04] | juski: | but those dreaded words.. "an update to portage is available..." strike fear into me – or rather, they used to |
| [18:22:26] | fryfrog: | I will miss the ease of getting the latest of what ever I want, *and* being able to easily create my own builds for thigns that weren't quite up |
| [18:22:32] | juski: | it's not a user's distro and it took me 2 years to learn that |
| [18:22:47] | fryfrog: | Its an *awsome* learning distro |
| [18:22:52] | juski: | fryfrog: nothing to stop you building _some_ stuff from source |
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| [18:24:46] | juski: | you'll quickly learn that it's a decent way to get proper ffmpeg ;) |
| [18:24:46] | juski: | (building it yerself) |
| [18:24:46] | juski: | though last time I just used some debian repo or other |
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| [18:24:46] | fryfrog: | in that it forces you to learn to do basically anything :p |
| [18:24:46] | fryfrog: | Bad server and/or first time user distro |
| [18:24:46] | fryfrog: | for sure, not for the parents either :) |
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| [18:28:00] | natoka: | hi |
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| [18:28:51] | infinity1: | i'm a myth noob. anyway, my system recorded some stuff yesterday. today i looked and all my stuff was gone. |
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| [18:29:13] | infinity1: | yesterday was my first day of recording. did some maintenance delete something? |
| [18:29:49] | natoka: | i'm currently trying to figure out why my mythtvfrontend just shows me a black screen when switching to livetv |
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| [18:31:08] | infinity1: | i see ...its exiring stuff because i don't have disk space |
| [18:32:23] | infinity1: | hmm ..now where is it storing stuff |
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| [18:35:36] | Zombie: | Anyone know where I can get some of the best MythTV PVR Cards?' |
| [18:36:16] | natoka: | I just get a 'no lock' whenever I tune to some channel |
| [18:36:24] | thedward: | My Hauppage PVR150 works great, I got it from newegg.com |
| [18:36:53] | sPiN: | ditto |
| [18:37:15] | natoka: | Zombie: i'd suggest having a look at the supported cards list of http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| [18:37:17] | thedward: | I think I might need to get another one though, to help prevent roommate conflict. :) |
| [18:37:35] | natoka: | since any dvb card supported by linux should work fine ... |
| [18:37:43] | sPiN: | i get this: /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.1.0/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -ldts |
| [18:37:53] | sPiN: | i have libdts for 64bit installed |
| [18:37:57] | sPiN: | and i tried with 32 bit |
| [18:38:09] | sPiN: | im on suse 10.1 |
| [18:38:18] | sPiN: | doh nm, i know what i did |
| [18:38:24] | infinity1: | can you have myth store recordings in two locations? |
| [18:38:40] | natoka: | sPiN: that just means, that gcc can't find the library to link to |
| [18:38:53] | infinity1: | i want to store data locally and via nfs.. hmmm |
| [18:39:13] | sPiN: | yeah i knew that part but i was thinking i had the package installed but i didnt have the -devel package installed |
| [18:39:19] | sPiN: | got it now |
| [18:39:36] | thedward: | Does anyone know of a way to trigger a command (say nuvexport) before a deletion happens? |
| [18:39:51] | juski: | infinity1: no you can't (yet) store recordings in more than one location |
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| [18:40:30] | juski: | thedward: run a user job when the recording is finished, automagically |
| [18:40:38] | infinity1: | locally i only have 80 gb, but the nfs server fluctuates between 1 and 50 gb free all the time. |
| [18:41:01] | juski: | infinity1: 50GB? as much as that? pfft |
| [18:41:02] | thedward: | juski: hmm. yes that makes sense. not precisely what I was wanting but that'll have the same end effect. |
| [18:41:04] | infinity1: | so if i store locally, i don't get much, and if i store NFS, my stuff will auto-expire when it gets low |
| [18:41:10] | infinity1: | no win there .. |
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| [18:41:43] | juski: | a 320GB HDD is very cheap these days. save your pennies :) |
| [18:42:15] | infinity1: | yea. seems i'm always buying more storage though. heh |
| [18:42:23] | natoka: | hmm, i'd die for knowing the location where mythtv stores the channels frequences |
| [18:42:24] | ** Merlin83a got a quote for 9x300GB SAS drives today ** | |
| [18:42:46] | Merlin83a: | In a Dell storage enclosure. |
| [18:42:52] | juski: | heh |
| [18:43:03] | juski: | bet it wasn't 9x £65.00 |
| [18:43:07] | infinity1: | Merlin83a: ouch. SAS? |
| [18:43:13] | infinity1: | get the M1000 with SATA |
| [18:43:16] | Merlin83a: | lol, just a little more than that juski :) |
| [18:43:20] | infinity1: | much cheaper :) |
| [18:43:22] | Merlin83a: | infinity1: MD1000 with SAS. |
| [18:43:29] | Merlin83a: | Price isn't everthing in many situations :) |
| [18:43:56] | infinity1: | Merlin83a: hmm ..true. but for that price, i wouldn't go DAS |
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| [18:44:19] | Merlin83a: | infinity1: Customer wanted it :) |
| [18:44:44] | infinity1: | Merlin83a: how much was it? 15 k? |
| [18:44:59] | Merlin83a: | infinity1: Whoah, nowhere near. Something like 4.5k |
| [18:45:07] | Merlin83a: | (Erm, British pounds...) |
| [18:45:17] | ** juski wonders what happened to the tsunami warning that was reported earlier today ** | |
| [18:45:37] | infinity1: | Merlin83a: not too bad for SAS ..was it fully populated? |
| [18:45:45] | Merlin83a: | Nope, 9 of 15 bays iirc. |
| [18:45:55] | thedward: | I've got a linux box set up with a terabyte raid-5; I am just trying to figure out the best way to archive recordings over there. :) |
| [18:45:59] | infinity1: | ahh ..seemeed a little cheap. |
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| [18:46:17] | natoka: | still, i'd die for knowing the location where mythtv stores the channels frequences |
| [18:46:24] | juski: | archive recordings? is anything worth keeping? |
| [18:46:37] | juski: | natoka: in the database of course, where it stores everything else |
| [18:46:48] | thedward: | juski: I like having complete archives of shows |
| [18:47:15] | juski: | thedward: woof. it'll never end ya know. hoarding everything makes you the HDD manufacturers' best customer |
| [18:47:32] | natoka: | juski: in the table channels i suspect ? |
| [18:47:41] | juski: | natoka: the channel table, yes |
| [18:47:54] | infinity1: | k. i expanded my nfs volume +50gb for the myth stuff. |
| [18:47:59] | thedward: | juski: heh. this is probably true. though hopefully I'll switch to solid state at some point. :) |
| [18:48:02] | natoka: | juski: perhaps in the field freqid ? |
| [18:48:10] | juski: | natoka: yup |
| [18:48:18] | infinity1: | ... i wonder when a volume is "too big" ...and i should split it into two volumes |
| [18:48:25] | natoka: | juski: cause if that is the case, then the channel detection failed utterly |
| [18:48:37] | sPiN: | anyone know /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.1.0/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt |
| [18:48:47] | sPiN: | im not familiar with a libqt-mt |
| [18:49:10] | juski: | natoka: if you're using a newish pvr card (pvr150 or pvr500) it might not work at all |
| [18:49:32] | natoka: | sPiN: perhaps called libqt3-mt ... |
| [18:49:40] | thedward: | sPiN: under debian it's libqt3-mt |
| [18:49:52] | natoka: | juski: i'm trying to get my nova se2 working |
| [18:50:06] | sPiN: | ill do some more searching thanks |
| [18:50:09] | juski: | natoka: tested it with dvb-utils? |
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| [18:50:32] | thedward: | I tried channel detection and it just got hopelessly confused, but worked fine when I synced to the online schedule |
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| [18:50:46] | thedward: | that is, I synced the channels from the online scheduling source istead of autodetection |
| [18:50:49] | natoka: | juski: yes, but i have some second thoughts about my tests ... |
| [18:50:55] | Dooskers: | Hi all. I am a noob to mythtv and have a question. When I try to run mythfilldatabase, it says that there are no channel sources defined, and asks if I ran setup. I did, but I don't know what I should do. Are there any suggestions? |
| [18:51:27] | natoka: | juski: cause i had to szap all the time in order to be able to record a channel via dvbstream |
| [18:51:46] | juski: | natoka: well that's what you have to do, keep szap running |
| [18:51:48] | natoka: | juski: and i actually didn't read anything about that anywhere ... |
| [18:52:05] | natoka: | juski: i see, then that behaviour is ok, thx, for verification |
| [18:52:22] | juski: | and for satellite scanning in mythtv I think you need to enter an initial transponder frequency |
| [18:53:12] | natoka: | juski: initial transponder frequency ? i suppose that is satellite dependet, or? |
| [18:54:11] | juski: | natoka: look in the scanning file you used when you tried the dvb-utils scan util |
| [18:55:27] | psofa: | right now myth considers my 2 sources connected via a switch on the same dvb card to be the same input. Non the less it displays them as different inputs in the input list in mythtv-setup.Can i force it considering them as 2 independent inputs? |
| [18:59:19] | mkrufky: | any people that watch prison break? do NOT read the mythweb description blurb for the episode coming in two weeks — total spoiler! |
| [18:59:30] | juski: | heh |
| [18:59:35] | juski: | radiotimes do that too |
| [18:59:44] | juski: | there's an idea for a patch ;) |
| [19:00:08] | juski: | 'show descriptions (*)' |
| [19:00:14] | sPiN: | mkrufky, thanks! |
| [19:00:38] | sPiN: | i hate when they show previews of next week! |
| [19:00:40] | mkrufky: | heh, well usually i want to read those descriptions, but not if they're going to give away a crucial plot |
| [19:00:52] | mkrufky: | especially this one |
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| [19:01:33] | mkrufky: | a better idea for a patch, juski, would be to add a "spoiler" flag to the description.... but that would mean that the xmltv provider would have to honor it... so, i guess it wont happen, lol |
| [19:03:14] | juski: | we get a lot of essays that don't actually tell you what happens in the show too |
| [19:03:29] | juski: | blurbs, not synopses |
| [19:03:31] | juski: | :( |
| [19:03:45] | juski: | hang the EPG monkeys! |
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| [19:06:01] | natoka: | hmm, what's the difference between LNB Preset: Single(Europe) and Universal(Europe) |
| [19:06:23] | natoka: | they seem to have a completely different definition compared to dvb-utils |
| [19:06:25] | juski: | natoka: the difference between a single LNB & a universal one |
| [19:06:47] | ** juski is about to try his new theme on his TV ** | |
| [19:07:29] | natoka: | juski: then i'm quite at a loss, cause i don't know the difference and so i don't know which to select ... |
| [19:07:29] | mkrufky: | sorry, i was away |
| [19:07:40] | D-side: | juski: good luck. |
| [19:07:45] | mkrufky: | usually those blurbs are simple blurbs, but lately they've become spoilers |
| [19:07:54] | mkrufky: | i cant complain though — def not mythtv's fault |
| [19:09:17] | natoka: | thx, google just told me the difference ... |
| [19:10:15] | psofa: | okay this is my chance to clean up the database.Anyone with tons of dvb-s channels around that can tell me how he organized this mess? |
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| [19:16:16] | sPiN: | grrr i still got nothing on this libqt3-mt |
| [19:16:40] | psofa: | maybe is should create sources like hotbird-video hotbird-radio astra-video astra-radio astra-scrambled? |
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| [19:16:57] | natoka: | sPiN: it's the Qt library from trolltech |
| [19:17:27] | natoka: | sPiN: and suse must have a package for it since it uses kde which is based on qt ... |
| [19:17:49] | natoka: | sPiN: perhaps install the development packages qt ... |
| [19:17:51] | sPiN: | yeah i know, ive tried libqt and qt3- |
| [19:18:15] | sPiN: | i do have qt3-devel and several other devel packages for qt3 |
| [19:18:42] | natoka: | sPiN: it seems that the -mt means multithreaded |
| [19:19:00] | natoka: | sPiN: perhaps that helps |
| [19:19:10] | sPiN: | ohh thanks natoka ill try some searches with that |
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| [19:34:00] | Honk^away: | are there any tutorials on how to write mythtv plugins? =) |
| [19:34:32] | GreyFoxx: | I seem to remember some people in the last month or so on the dev list who planned to write something for the wiki |
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| [19:34:54] | GreyFoxx: | no idea if it ever happened or is of any use though |
| [19:35:14] | Merlin83a: | juski: Works fine here. |
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| [19:35:40] | Honk^away: | GreyFoxx: i'll see if i can find anything useful.. thanks :) |
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| [20:02:31] | fryfrog: | damn, i can't find any xbox iso tools in ubuntu :( |
| [20:02:34] | ]-[all: | I am trying to play a recorded file from a remote machine, It listed the available records properly... |
| [20:02:41] | fryfrog: | damn you gentoo for having almost everything i've ever wanted |
| [20:02:44] | ]-[all: | but when playing, it thinks the file is local, and says it was not found |
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| [20:02:54] | ]-[all: | any idea? I am using 0.20 |
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| [20:03:29] | ]-[all: | juski, hi, do you know how to do that? |
| [20:03:53] | deusjevoo: | fryfrog: you use gentoo? for pvr? sattisfied? |
| [20:03:58] | juski: | Merlin83a: thought it would :) ta |
| [20:04:15] | fryfrog: | ]-[all: export your recordings dir and mount it via nfs |
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| [20:04:41] | fryfrog: | ]-[all: it might also be because you set a local "recordings" dir, but I honestly don't have any experience with non-mounted file playback |
| [20:04:53] | fryfrog: | i figure NFS is probably better at file system work than myth :) |
| [20:05:06] | fryfrog: | deusjevoo: I'm in the initial stages of moving from gentoo -> ubuntu |
| [20:05:32] | fryfrog: | I've been using ubuntu for gosh, 4–5 years now? Basically since it came out |
| [20:05:40] | otwin: | juski: your file seems to play fine on my minimyth – what goes wrong when you play it? |
| [20:05:42] | fryfrog: | So I know and love it, can do most stuff in my sleep :) |
| [20:06:03] | juski: | otwin: it pauses about every 20 secs for < .5 sec |
| [20:06:09] | deusjevoo: | me, still looking for a distro to setup, was thinking of starting with gentoo |
| [20:06:20] | ]-[all: | fryfrog: it should use myth protocol do do that |
| [20:06:35] | ]-[all: | looking to the frontend messages, it is trying to play the file as local |
| [20:06:36] | fryfrog: | deusjevoo: have you *used* gentoo before? |
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| [20:06:37] | otwin: | juski: no problem here with internal player on latest minimyth |
| [20:06:44] | deusjevoo: | no |
| [20:06:51] | fryfrog: | I'd say, unless you are a gentoo *ninja*, start with something else |
| [20:07:06] | juski: | otwin: tried every setting in the book, and only happens when I deinterlace & don't timestretch on my M10k frontend |
| [20:07:10] | fryfrog: | Ubuntu or Fedora Core would be two fine choices, I've got Ubuntu on my laptops and like it :) |
| [20:07:39] | fryfrog: | ]-[all: Like I said, either mount the dir via nfs or perhaps you have told your frontend settings that you have a recordings dir locally |
| [20:07:55] | fryfrog: | also, you are takling about *recordings* right? not videos? |
| [20:08:21] | deusjevoo: | was doubting between fedora, suse, kanotix, gentoo |
| [20:08:31] | deusjevoo: | yes, to record with hauppauge pvr 500 |
| [20:08:54] | fryfrog: | Best choice would be the one you have the most experience with :) |
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| [20:08:59] | deusjevoo: | beeing in europe, thought suse might be a better choice over fedora |
| [20:09:06] | ]-[all: | fryfrog: I believe the second is the case, how can I tell the frontend to get the file from the backend server? |
| [20:09:15] | deusjevoo: | I know, but not affraid to experiment |
| [20:09:20] | fryfrog: | 2nd would prolly be Fedora Core because of Jarod's guides, or Ubuntu cause it rules :) |
| [20:09:38] | fryfrog: | I don't think your location has anything to do with it, unless you need one in *your* language |
| [20:09:49] | fryfrog: | ]-[all: probably somewhere in settings, or perhaps try "mythtv-setup" :/ |
| [20:10:18] | GreyFoxx: | ]-[all: Are you attempting to play a recording or are you attempting to play a video in MythVideo ? |
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| [20:10:32] | Anduin: | ]-[all: recordings are associated with a host, if your backend is/was set to localhost that would explain it |
| [20:10:32] | deusjevoo: | not really for me, but maybe, setting up for other people.... |
| [20:10:37] | ]-[all: | GreyFoxx: I am trying to play a record |
| [20:10:50] | juski: | mythtv doesn't play records :-P |
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| [20:11:26] | ]-[all: | Anduin: I didn't set my backend ip as 127.0.0.1, I set to my external IP |
| [20:11:34] | fryfrog: | god, the people in #ubuntu ask really dumb linux questions :( |
| [20:11:36] | deusjevoo: | just want a system that, once setup, i can switch on, leave on, and be sure it records whatever is scheduled over whatever period |
| [20:11:51] | juski: | fryfrog: that's them 'human beings' for yer eh ;) |
| [20:11:59] | fryfrog: | ahahah |
| [20:12:14] | fryfrog: | i can't take it, i had to leave :/ |
| [20:12:35] | fryfrog: | "is there a program that turns .rar files into .img files, like winrar" :/ |
| [20:12:40] | ]-[all: | juski: you mean that mythtv does not play a record from remote backend? |
| [20:12:43] | Anduin: | ]-[all: The only time it tries locally is when the backend for the recording and the current are the same |
| [20:12:52] | fryfrog: | should have said "how about 'cp file.rar file.img'" :p |
| [20:13:39] | ]-[all: | Anduin: So, where I set the current in the frontend? |
| [20:14:05] | ]-[all: | Anduin, In the frontend setup I just found one place to set ip address, Setup->General |
| [20:14:17] | Anduin: | ]-[all: it is the host name |
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| [20:15:37] | ]-[all: | Anduin: I set the remote backend address in the hostname, which is different from my local address.. |
| [20:15:55] | stuarta: | evening all |
| [20:15:58] | ]-[all: | The mythtv lists the remote recorded programs, but when playing it still try to play local (?????) |
| [20:16:09] | ]-[all: | :~ |
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| [20:21:44] | iFreak: | hey my listings are off by like 3 hours |
| [20:21:50] | iFreak: | but my time is right |
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| [20:22:37] | iFreak: | any ideas? |
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| [20:25:58] | Anduin: | ]-[all: I'd check the hostname field in the recorded table, the comparison is done against that and gethostname() for the frontend |
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| [20:26:21] | psofa: | 1h to scan all transponders Oo |
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| [20:27:26] | mkrufky: | iFreak: time zone? |
| [20:27:41] | iFreak: | oh |
| [20:27:46] | iFreak: | i think it is set to UTC |
| [20:27:51] | iFreak: | but im in PST |
| [20:27:58] | iFreak: | thanks for remindng me to check that |
| [20:27:59] | iFreak: | haha |
| [20:28:07] | stuarta: | that'll be the problem then :) |
| [20:28:10] | iFreak: | shit nevermind |
| [20:28:21] | iFreak: | i run date |
| [20:28:25] | iFreak: | oh wait |
| [20:28:26] | iFreak: | haha |
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| [20:29:00] | mkrufky: | :-) |
| [20:29:32] | mkrufky: | iFreak: are you doing ATSC ? |
| [20:30:15] | iFreak: | uh |
| [20:30:31] | mkrufky: | are you in USA using HDTV ? |
| [20:30:34] | iFreak: | no |
| [20:30:40] | iFreak: | it is my timezones |
| [20:30:42] | mkrufky: | ok, forget it then... just curious |
| [20:30:54] | mkrufky: | yes, i know its your timezones, i was goign to ask you something unrelated |
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| [20:31:20] | iFreak: | oh ok |
| [20:31:49] | iFreak: | im having a little trouble with getting it to display all the way fullscreen |
| [20:31:58] | iFreak: | there is a little black border |
| [20:32:02] | iFreak: | only when watching tv |
| [20:32:11] | iFreak: | during mythfrontend |
| [20:32:12] | mkrufky: | nvidia video card? |
| [20:32:13] | iFreak: | there is no border |
| [20:32:14] | iFreak: | yes |
| [20:32:38] | mkrufky: | there is a known "blue border" bug in the nvidia driver, but this sounds like it cant be |
| [20:32:56] | mkrufky: | there is a known "pink border" bug in nvidia's xv stuff. but also not the one |
| [20:33:19] | mkrufky: | are you viewing 16:9 content on a 4:3 screen? |
| [20:33:24] | ** stuarta is waiting for the "green border" bug :) ** | |
| [20:34:24] | mkrufky: | green border? i have heard of a full green screen — that is usually a v4l driver bug (on analog capture devices only) |
| [20:34:36] | ** stuarta was being silly.... ** | |
| [20:34:41] | ]-[all: | Anduin, I think you got it, I will test |
| [20:34:45] | mkrufky: | usually indicated that the video decoder didnt get the dignal |
| [20:34:48] | mkrufky: | ah, you were joking! |
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| [20:34:57] | Inkubot: | hi |
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| [20:37:48] | iFreak: | well i think |
| [20:37:56] | iFreak: | that myth might be changing my capture card |
| [20:38:02] | iFreak: | from 720x480 to 480x480 |
| [20:38:02] | Inkubot: | hi |
| [20:38:13] | Inkubot: | how can i change the settings of mythweather ? |
| [20:38:27] | Inkubot: | i'm trying to do it trough the menu of mythtv |
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| [20:38:35] | Inkubot: | but don't work for me |
| [20:38:36] | Inkubot: | :( |
| [20:39:59] | GreyFoxx: | iFreak: The default recording profile is set to 480x480, if you want a different resolution or bitrate you need to set it in your recording profiles |
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| [20:40:54] | mkrufky: | ok then... so i was halfway right — ur using ntsc |
| [20:42:08] | iFreak: | ok thanks |
| [20:44:46] | ]-[all: | Anduin: Thank you, it worked |
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| [20:59:16] | psofa: | err why firefox gets so fucked up with mythwebs huge channel lists? |
| [21:01:55] | mkrufky: | its a big render job |
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| [21:02:41] | mkrufky: | try also looking at "recorded programs" with 200 shows with "all programs" selected — should also be another big render job — this is not a bug, just a fact of life |
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| [21:04:08] | juski: | stuarta: you know that playback issue I've been having? dropping the AD track from the stream fixes it. Oh and knoppmyth doesn't seem to show the problem |
| [21:04:17] | juski: | evening btw :) |
| [21:04:31] | juski: | time to find a hdd |
| [21:04:33] | GreyFoxx: | w |
| [21:04:37] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
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| [21:06:59] | juski: | oh damn. not only do I need to find a hdd, I need to find an ata cable |
| [21:07:27] | juski: | aha! |
| [21:08:53] | stuarta: | juski: i have heard of it. not seen it in the wild |
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| [21:09:07] | stuarta: | other than the odd occasion the AD track is listed first in the PMT |
| [21:09:50] | juski: | can we not just chuck the damn thing away anyway? |
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| [21:10:22] | stuarta: | not easily. and i'm sure there is the odd person who uses it |
| [21:10:23] | psofa: | err its not just a matter of rendering job.When i try to change something it freezes |
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| [21:13:18] | GreyFoxx: | Sweet it works. Iv'e got mythvideo playing back myth's recordings via upnp from the backend, this should work to serve up non recordings to it too |
| [21:13:35] | juski: | I gathered it wouldn't be easy stuarta – had a peek in the source today |
| [21:14:05] | juski: | anyway I know other erm.. platforms don't give me the problem so I'm going down that route for a bit to experiment |
| [21:14:05] | stuarta: | it boils down to how do you decide which stream is the AD stream? |
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| [21:14:27] | juski: | stuarta: if no. of streams > 1, then chuck away the 64kbps mono one ;) |
| [21:14:43] | juski: | over-simplification I know |
| [21:14:46] | stuarta: | and you don't know which is which till you open it |
| [21:14:52] | juski: | yup |
| [21:14:57] | stuarta: | which we don't do when recording |
| [21:15:02] | juski: | which the recorder doesn't do – exactly |
| [21:15:15] | stuarta: | does mplayer et al play the streams? |
| [21:15:23] | juski: | yes. perfick |
| [21:15:44] | stuarta: | we'll have to do some testing with --verbose to find out what's going on |
| [21:15:46] | juski: | and when I timestretch they're peachy too |
| [21:16:03] | juski: | oh I've got some -v playback stuff |
| [21:16:37] | stuarta: | pastebin what you have. may need --verbose siparser,record,channel |
| [21:16:40] | juski: | NVP: Video is 5.29265 frames ahead of audio, doubling video frame |
| [21:16:40] | juski: | interval to slow down. |
| [21:16:59] | juski: | just that during playback, other than reporting the framerate |
| [21:17:21] | stuarta: | it's only 1x that has audio issues? |
| [21:17:22] | psofa: | juski, tell him also about the sound card buffer errors |
| [21:17:28] | juski: | stuarta: yeah |
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| [21:17:50] | juski: | psofa: yes and with --verbose all I get messages about waiting for buffers to become free, then becoming free |
| [21:18:04] | stuarta: | actually you have a sample handy? |
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| [21:18:11] | juski: | but I reckon that's expected behaviour since I get that during normal playback |
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| [21:18:19] | stuarta: | see if you can cut it down to a small piece and email it to me... |
| [21:18:33] | GreyFoxx: | lol cool! mythbackend is streaming non recorded videos to my frontend via upnp |
| [21:18:34] | juski: | bugger wish I'd used a pastebin now |
| [21:18:46] | stuarta: | GreyFoxx: oooo nice... |
| [21:18:54] | juski: | GreyFoxx: sssh the noobs will hear & expect it to be in released code ;) |
| [21:19:01] | stuarta: | i'm trying to get my hands on a mini mac |
| [21:19:01] | GreyFoxx: | stuarta: I had to "fix" one bug |
| [21:19:10] | GreyFoxx: | well, had to hide it for the moment until it's properly fixed |
| [21:19:29] | stuarta: | hehe |
| [21:19:38] | juski: | lemme just do this ickle bit of IDE origami |
| [21:19:50] | GreyFoxx: | Any time a upnp search was done it caused the upnp mount to die |
| [21:20:02] | GreyFoxx: | cause we return and error for all searches |
| [21:20:06] | juski: | without chafing the damn cable on the sharp metal hole... |
| [21:20:07] | GreyFoxx: | so I faked a success |
| [21:20:49] | GreyFoxx: | I think this might also be related to the upnp 100% cpu problem as after several failed searches my backends cpu shot to 100% |
| [21:21:15] | juski: | ahh the hdd ide cable goes THAT way.... |
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| [21:21:18] | Rince: | evening |
| [21:22:01] | juski: | heh I've just a blue rince |
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| [21:22:01] | juski: | *seen a |
| [21:22:32] | stuarta: | i was wondering what juski + blue rinse would look like *shudder* |
| [21:22:34] | Rince: | just a question: has someone already tried to view DVD-Images instead of "real" images via mythtv? |
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| [21:23:38] | ** Rince is thinking about having his DVDs as image on his filesystem instead of putting in DVDs... ** | |
| [21:23:58] | stuarta: | Rince: mythvideo |
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| [21:25:39] | Rince: | Hmm.. it can use dvd-images? |
| [21:25:41] | Rince: | nice |
| [21:26:20] | juski: | okay stuarta.. jus for you, booting minimyth up now |
| [21:26:28] | juski: | well and for me :) |
| [21:26:47] | juski: | oh and I have a sample clip which doesn't play well with the internal player too |
| [21:27:14] | stuarta: | feel free to email me them |
| [21:28:35] | Zombie: | Can any of you reccommend inexpensive NTSC and ATSC MythTV Card? |
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| [21:28:55] | stuarta: | juski: thanks |
| [21:28:59] | Zombie: | What Chipsets have you had the best luck with? |
| [21:29:14] | Zombie: | I have Comcast Cable Unfortunately. |
| [21:29:26] | ** juski increases his putty scrollback buffer to 'fucking long' ** | |
| [21:29:50] | mkrufky: | Zombie: you want a PCI card that has both NTSC and ATSC? ...or a usb card? |
| [21:30:01] | Zombie: | PCI. |
| [21:30:15] | Zombie: | It will be a Dedicated box. |
| [21:30:17] | juski: | may aswell download a wedgy CD while I'm on |
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| [21:30:42] | mkrufky: | Zombie: and by ATSC, you mean OTA only? ...or also digital cable? |
| [21:30:56] | fryfrog: | Does anyone run RAID1 on their backend/frontends? |
| [21:31:34] | fryfrog: | My question is, should I bother with a slave backend? My master (and everything else) server is running RAID1, along with a large RAID5... but the slave backend isn't special :/ |
| [21:31:40] | mkrufky: | Zombie: there is a chart in my wiki..... http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_cards |
| [21:31:41] | Zombie: | We do have Digital Cable. |
| [21:31:52] | mkrufky: | Zombie: ok, so then i recommend one of three cards: |
| [21:32:00] | mkrufky: | 1) DViCO FusionHDTV5 Gold |
| [21:32:08] | mkrufky: | 2) PCHDTV 5500 |
| [21:32:15] | mkrufky: | 3) DViCO FusionHDTV5 Lite |
| [21:32:27] | stuarta: | fryfrog: no real reason, they are pretty easy to rebuild since their config is in the DB |
| [21:32:46] | fryfrog: | that is true, i will concur with that and skip raid on the FE :) |
| [21:32:52] | fryfrog: | thanks for teh inputs :) |
| [21:32:55] | mkrufky: | Zombie: also AVerTV HD A180 works fine too |
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| [21:33:15] | mkrufky: | but i prefer the LG H06xF-based tuners |
| [21:33:16] | Zombie: | I don't have one of their cable boxes. |
| [21:33:17] | fryfrog: | Zombie: I'd recommend an air2pc card, but even more... rent a HD Tuner from your cable co and use firewire |
| [21:33:30] | fryfrog: | that way, instead of 5 HD channels, you can get *all* your channels |
| [21:33:34] | fryfrog: | even non-HD ones |
| [21:33:44] | juski: | there ya go stuarta |
| [21:33:49] | mkrufky: | fryfrog: the only air2pc card that will work with digital cable is the AirStar 5000 ... but that card will not work with analog video |
| [21:33:54] | Zombie: | Hold on. |
| [21:34:00] | juski: | damn. shoulda compressed it |
| [21:34:03] | fryfrog: | mkrufky: ah, yeah that is true it won't do analog |
| [21:34:21] | fryfrog: | and you *gotta* get the $100+ one, since its the only one that'll do QAM |
| [21:34:31] | mkrufky: | i have (almost) every card in that chart |
| [21:34:32] | fryfrog: | the $40 ebay ones don't do qam :( |
| [21:34:36] | fryfrog: | damn! |
| [21:34:58] | juski: | one of these days I'm gonna find all the ubuntu cds I've ever burnt |
| [21:35:12] | mkrufky: | $100+ one is the airstar5000 , like i said above ;-) |
| [21:35:18] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [21:35:27] | fryfrog: | i thought they were all 5000, but just gen1,2,3 |
| [21:35:31] | mkrufky: | Zombie: no |
| [21:35:33] | mkrufky: | oops |
| [21:35:36] | mkrufky: | fryfrog: no |
| [21:35:58] | juski: | haha. can't believe the domain http://ubuntulinix.org/ actually exists |
| [21:36:06] | fryfrog: | ? |
| [21:36:08] | mkrufky: | Zombie: for your purposes, you need one of those 4 i mentioned, but i recommend the first 3 |
| [21:36:10] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [21:36:14] | fryfrog: | miss-spelled :) |
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| [21:37:14] | Beakster: | hi, can anyone help me a Leaktek capture card which uses the cx88 driver? |
| [21:37:35] | Beakster: | i have a message in var/log/mesags about the subsystem not being recognised |
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| [21:37:50] | mkrufky: | Beakster: can you show me that message? |
| [21:37:57] | mkrufky: | (on rafb.net or pastebin.ca) |
| [21:38:11] | Beakster: | yeah, 2 secs, thanks |
| [21:38:37] | frankrizzo: | anyone here dealt with the transcoder failing under 0.20 with status 247? I have not been able to locate a solution to my problem |
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| [21:38:42] | mkrufky: | fryfrog: who is your cabletv provider? |
| [21:38:48] | fryfrog: | comunistcast |
| [21:38:53] | mkrufky: | hehe |
| [21:38:53] | mkrufky: | ok |
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| [21:39:03] | mkrufky: | i wonder if the 1394 jack works for time warner |
| [21:39:13] | mkrufky: | i will have to try that out |
| [21:39:24] | fryfrog: | its worth it :) |
| [21:39:41] | fryfrog: | I have a pair of their DCT6412 (motorola's hd dvr) hooked up via firewire |
| [21:39:59] | fryfrog: | I have *read* that the DVR's output *everything* to firewire unencrypted (this is the case with mine for sure) |
| [21:40:08] | mkrufky: | i bet firewire capture will require almost zero cpu usage |
| [21:40:16] | fryfrog: | yup, its very low |
| [21:40:26] | stuarta: | bitbanging at it's most basic |
| [21:40:39] | mkrufky: | so, i can even do that on my dedicated mythfrontend box ...... .just add a remote backend server to it |
| [21:40:39] | fryfrog: | I've seen some people in here report that the HD tuners (non-dvr) encrypt a lot of channels |
| [21:40:42] | Beakster: | http://pastebin.ca/249527 |
| [21:40:48] | fryfrog: | but i have not got one myself, so i dunno :( |
| [21:40:50] | psofa: | err can someone tell me whats wrong with mythweb? ive got a dozen dvb channels.I try to make a change to the channel table via mythweb and when clicking save the whole browser freezes |
| [21:41:01] | mkrufky: | psofa: give it time |
| [21:41:05] | fryfrog: | mkrufky: thats what i do, though my remote fe is a dual xeon :( |
| [21:41:19] | Beakster: | mkrufky, its a Leadtek DTV1000 T |
| [21:41:32] | mkrufky: | Beakster: gimme a minute |
| [21:41:42] | Beakster: | mkrufky, thanks |
| [21:42:12] | juski: | jees I thought that card was just like the 3 I have, working great (ish) since kernel 2.6.10 or whatever |
| [21:42:28] | juski: | modprobe cx88dvb – job done, I thought |
| [21:42:31] | mkrufky: | juski: yours has a subsystem id |
| [21:42:33] | fryfrog: | Humm, okay I have two options for moving my Gentoo master server to Ubuntu... |
| [21:42:35] | juski: | ah |
| [21:42:44] | fryfrog: | Throw in an 80G PATA drive, setup and install on there |
| [21:42:46] | mkrufky: | juski: i thought yours was an mpeg encoder |
| [21:42:48] | psofa: | mkrufky, lol it started responding after 3 minutes! |
| [21:42:52] | fryfrog: | and if i fail, remove it and boot from the raid 1 |
| [21:42:53] | mkrufky: | psofa: :-) |
| [21:42:57] | psofa: | any way to make it faster? |
| [21:43:09] | fryfrog: | *or* break my raid1 and install to *one* of the raid1's and revert if needed :/ |
| [21:43:11] | juski: | here I go.. putting ubuntu on my ickle epia frontend (sob) |
| [21:43:26] | mkrufky: | psofa: add memory to the machine running the browser? the lag is firefox rendering the html |
| [21:43:59] | psofa: | mkrufky, memory is at 500mb out of 1 gig |
| [21:44:13] | mkrufky: | Beakster: which ancient kernel are YOU running? |
| [21:44:20] | psofa: | it happens with both firefox and opera |
| [21:44:31] | mkrufky: | Beakster: #1 you need a newer kernel, or to install new v4l-dvb modules |
| [21:44:36] | juski: | oh crap. I need to go into the bios & change a setting so I can see this on the monitor, and I can't see to do it without a tv in this room |
| [21:44:39] | Beakster: | oot@mythtv:/home/mythtv# uname -a |
| [21:44:39] | Beakster: | Linux mythtv 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| [21:44:57] | Beakster: | just done a fresh install of ubuntu 6.10 |
| [21:45:01] | mkrufky: | Beakster: ubuntu edgy? |
| [21:45:16] | Beakster: | i previouly tried this card on Fedora core 4 and had same issue |
| [21:45:19] | mkrufky: | Beakster: ok, here are some instructions..... |
| [21:45:22] | Beakster: | yeah, edgy |
| [21:45:45] | mkrufky: | Beakster: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mercurial build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| [21:45:55] | mkrufky: | Beakster: hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb |
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| [21:46:07] | mkrufky: | Beakster: cd v4l-dvb && make && sudo make install |
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| [21:46:56] | mkrufky: | Beakster: then, edit /etc/modprobe.d/options |
| [21:47:07] | mkrufky: | Beakster: add this: options cx88xx card=51 |
| [21:47:08] | Beakster: | mkrufky, thanks, its working through that now |
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| [21:47:22] | mkrufky: | Beakster: after you edit that file, reboot your system |
| [21:47:25] | Beakster: | mkrufky, why is this happening? has my card got a newer firmware or something? |
| [21:47:34] | mkrufky: | Beakster: when it comes up, sudo modprobe cx88-dvb |
| [21:47:42] | mkrufky: | Beakster: your card has a bad eeprom on it |
| [21:47:48] | Beakster: | :S |
| [21:47:55] | mkrufky: | Beakster: so, the driver does not know how to autodetect it |
| [21:47:57] | Beakster: | bad why? should I send it back? |
| [21:48:03] | juski: | sounds like it |
| [21:48:03] | mkrufky: | Beakster: i *guessed* that card 51 is good for you |
| [21:48:18] | juski: | unless it's a new type maybe mkrufky ? |
| [21:48:29] | mkrufky: | yes, it is a new type |
| [21:48:30] | Beakster: | just bought it new a couple of days ago |
| [21:48:34] | mkrufky: | newer than 2.6.17 |
| [21:48:57] | mkrufky: | but there is no doubt, that either the card lacks an eeprom, or that it has one, and its corrupted |
| [21:49:09] | mkrufky: | either way, doesnt really matter if card=51 works |
| [21:49:22] | mkrufky: | if that works, then all you need to do is "modprobe cx88-dvb" |
| [21:49:30] | mkrufky: | the card will show up as a WinFast DTV2000 |
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| [21:50:42] | mkrufky: | psofa: sorry, i didnt mean to imply that it is browser-dependant |
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| [21:51:01] | mkrufky: | psofa: the fact is, the issue is client-side rendering... the server is not the problem at all |
| [21:51:03] | juski: | weirdest thing. my epia box just said it couldn't find ntldr.com |
| [21:51:14] | mkrufky: | yuck — that is bad news |
| [21:51:28] | fryfrog: | Does anyone know: If I break a RAID1 software mirror, install Ubuntu on one of the mirror drives (blowing away all the paritions on it)... if I boot with the old not-ubuntu mirror, is either of them going to try and claim the other as the other half of their raid mirror? I'd think that nuking the partitions *should* blow away the raid superblock information that the autodetect uses :/ |
| [21:51:42] | fryfrog: | juski: ahhaha, wtf? |
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| [21:52:01] | juski: | fryfrog: must've been a remnant of something on the spare hdd I guess ;) |
| [21:52:01] | infinity1: | fryfrog: if you wipe paritions, no they won't reclain |
| [21:52:14] | infinity1: | fryfrog: er reclaim. |
| [21:52:25] | Beakster: | mkrufky, is this likely to cause an problems with IR reciever or svideo in if we are telling it, its a different card? would it be easier to send it back to the shop for replacement? |
| [21:52:28] | fryfrog: | infinity1: thats what i'm *hoping* :) |
| [21:52:31] | juski: | oo I wonder if I go to ubuntu I'd be able to do STR |
| [21:52:34] | fryfrog: | infinity1: hopefully, i won't have to find out either :) |
| [21:52:37] | infinity1: | fryfrog: the lvm metadata will be gone |
| [21:52:37] | fryfrog: | STR? |
| [21:52:43] | fryfrog: | not lvm, md |
| [21:52:44] | juski: | suspend to ram :) |
| [21:52:47] | fryfrog: | but same idea |
| [21:52:51] | fryfrog: | oh, neat idea |
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| [21:53:02] | fryfrog: | and the master backend can wake servers up, i should look into that later |
| [21:53:16] | fryfrog: | why not suspend to disk too/also? |
| [21:53:19] | mkrufky: | Beakster: we wont know till after you try it |
| [21:53:45] | mkrufky: | Beakster: lets just hope that it is the same card juski has, and that it just has a bad eeprom |
| [21:54:18] | mkrufky: | aha! i think juski's card doesnt have a subsystem id either |
| [21:54:27] | juski: | what? |
| [21:54:29] | ** mkrufky just looked at his chat backlogs ** | |
| [21:54:41] | mkrufky: | juski: you send card=51 in your startup scripts, dont you? |
| [21:55:07] | infinity1: | how well does TV recording to NFS partiion work? |
| [21:55:16] | juski: | mkrufky: not AFAIK |
| [21:55:25] | juski: | and what about this from lspci? 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) |
| [21:55:32] | infinity1: | fine or YMMV? heh |
| [21:55:37] | juski: | that's my lr6650 |
| [21:55:53] | Beakster: | i can see that too |
| [21:56:02] | Beakster: | but i think it should say Leadtek 1000 |
| [21:56:07] | mynameisjonas: | i folks, apologies if this is a faq (although i cant find it) my dvb cards are only giving me the audio description stream on some channels and its driving me nuts |
| [21:56:10] | mynameisjonas: | any ideas? |
| [21:56:14] | mkrufky: | juski: oops, im wrong |
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| [21:56:28] | ** Kazan finally figured out udev rules ** | |
| [21:56:31] | juski: | mkrufky: my 'other' card is a leadtek pvr2000oem ;) |
| [21:56:46] | juski: | udev does _not_ rule :P |
| [21:56:47] | mkrufky: | juski: your card is one of these: 107d:663b,107d:663c,107d:6632 |
| [21:56:51] | Kazan: | (took the time to sit down and hack em out) and now i have working udev rules for making stable aliases to my input cards |
| [21:56:52] | mkrufky: | lspci -vn will reveal that |
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| [21:57:04] | juski: | mkrufky: different box, different card |
| [21:57:10] | mkrufky: | completely different |
| [21:57:12] | psofa: | err fuck mythweb |
| [21:57:13] | juski: | the dvb-t tuners I have are all leadtek lr6650 |
| [21:57:15] | mkrufky: | Beakster: has a DVB card |
| [21:57:20] | psofa: | gonna use cli sql |
| [21:57:22] | mkrufky: | juski: has a blackbird mpeg encoder |
| [21:57:25] | Kazan: | once you have it all figured out it's easy |
| [21:57:52] | Kazan: | DRIVER=="ivtv", ID=="0000:{pciid}", SYMLINK+="your_mom" |
| [21:57:59] | juski: | mkrufky: yeah that's the lr6632, the mpeg encoding cx88 card. in my other box. not the one I just gave you the lspci output from :) |
| [21:58:08] | mkrufky: | lol |
| [21:58:14] | ** Kazan wonders if he should put a howto on this into the mythTV wiki ** | |
| [21:58:34] | mkrufky: | juski: so the DVB one registers itself as a winfast, right? |
| [21:58:51] | Beakster: | mine says: |
| [21:58:53] | Beakster: | 00:0b.0 0400: 14f1:8800 (rev 05) |
| [21:58:53] | Beakster: | Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 |
| [21:58:53] | Beakster: | Memory at ce000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] |
| [21:58:53] | Beakster: | Capabilities: <access denied> |
| [21:58:56] | juski: | mkrufky: erm.. I dunno |
| [21:59:06] | mkrufky: | Beakster: yes, i knew that :-) |
| [21:59:10] | mkrufky: | juski: ok |
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| [21:59:22] | Beakster: | ok, v4l built :) |
| [21:59:26] | Beakster: | i'll do the modprobe endit |
| [21:59:31] | Beakster: | *edit |
| [21:59:33] | mkrufky: | ok |
| [21:59:37] | mkrufky: | lets see if it works....... |
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| [22:00:42] | Beakster: | right i'll reboot now |
| [22:00:46] | Beakster: | back in 5 |
| [22:00:48] | Beakster: | thanks |
| [22:00:55] | juski: | whee installing umbongo on my epia box now :) |
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| [22:01:07] | juski: | see if I can get mythfrontend working before bedtime |
| [22:01:13] | mynameisjonas: | anybody have any ideas? |
| [22:01:23] | juski: | mynameisjonas: about what? |
| [22:01:37] | juski: | ah |
| [22:01:54] | mynameisjonas: | about the wrong audio stream probs im having |
| [22:01:58] | juski: | try selecting the other audio stream. press M during playback & go to 'audio stream' |
| [22:02:16] | juski: | sometimes myth might get it wrong, sometimes they're labelled wrongly in the stream |
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| [22:02:42] | mynameisjonas: | does this also work for recordings and livetv (through an xbmc frontend) |
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| [22:03:01] | juski: | mynameisjonas: xbmcmythtv can't do it, only linux mythtv on the xbox can |
| [22:03:17] | juski: | or can it? hmmm |
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| [22:03:26] | mynameisjonas: | thanks juski, that might be just what i was looking for |
| [22:03:28] | juski: | prolly an option in xbmc somewhere to select another audio track |
| [22:03:29] | Beakster: | back |
| [22:03:40] | Beakster: | how do i check its working, i still dont have a /dev/dvb |
| [22:03:43] | mynameisjonas: | so if i set it in the frontend – it will default to this for future recordings? |
| [22:03:49] | juski: | mynameisjonas: nope |
| [22:03:54] | mynameisjonas: | dang |
| [22:04:11] | mkrufky: | Beakster: sudo modprobe cx88-dvb |
| [22:04:16] | mynameisjonas: | any way to do this in the mythtv setup on a per-channel basis? |
| [22:04:19] | juski: | mynameisjonas: what might help is to put a small section of recording up somewhere & file a bug |
| [22:04:27] | mkrufky: | Beakster: then, "dmesg | tail -n20" |
| [22:04:42] | juski: | mynameisjonas: which country do you live in? |
| [22:04:53] | juski: | and can the backend play the recordings ok? |
| [22:04:55] | mynameisjonas: | UK |
| [22:05:09] | juski: | UK? then I suspect that xbmc is at fault |
| [22:05:20] | stuarta: | hmmm |
| [22:05:30] | mynameisjonas: | i'll have to double check the backend playing the recordings – currently its go no speakers! |
| [22:05:31] | Beakster: | FATAL: Error inserting cx88_dvb (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88-dvb.ko): No such device |
| [22:05:38] | mkrufky: | hm,mmm |
| [22:05:45] | juski: | try playing the recordings with mplayer, vlc etc.. see if the default audio track is the stereo english one |
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| [22:05:51] | mkrufky: | Beakster: are you sure your card does DVB ? |
| [22:05:56] | Beakster: | yes |
| [22:05:59] | Beakster: | thats why i bought it |
| [22:06:01] | mynameisjonas: | thanks juski |
| [22:06:05] | Kazan: | i hate "no such device" |
| [22:06:12] | mkrufky: | Beakster: can you pull out the card and tell me what chips are on it? |
| [22:06:14] | Kazan: | i have that problem with radeon's agpgart |
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| [22:06:30] | mkrufky: | Beakster: that should have worked, since i would assume your card has a cx22702 |
| [22:06:33] | Beakster: | Leaktek Winfast DTV1000 T |
| [22:06:43] | Zombie: | I'm trying to decide between the pc5500 and Dvico FusionHDTV5-RT Lite |
| [22:06:47] | Beakster: | yes, i believe it is |
| [22:06:54] | juski: | Beakster: that's what it said on the box at least, but what the card is might be different ;) |
| [22:07:14] | juski: | I've known returns depts just re-box stuff & put them back into stock |
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| [22:07:30] | Beakster: | 00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) |
| [22:07:49] | mkrufky: | Zombie: FusionHDTV5 RT-Lite is much less expensive, it uses bt878 chipset instead of cx2388x (pcHDTV5500) |
| [22:07:50] | juski: | Beakster: what does dmesg report when you modprobe cx88dvb ? |
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| [22:08:01] | mkrufky: | Zombie: pcHTDV5500 is identical to FusionHDTV5 GOLD |
| [22:08:06] | juski: | and when did this turn into #linuxtv ? ;) |
| [22:08:18] | mkrufky: | juski: sorry |
| [22:08:21] | mkrufky: | my fault |
| [22:08:24] | mkrufky: | should i leave? |
| [22:08:25] | mkrufky: | ;-) |
| [22:08:27] | juski: | mkrufky: haha no |
| [22:08:31] | Beakster: | last 3 lines of dmesg are: |
| [22:08:32] | Beakster: | [17179800.532000] cx2388x cx88-mpeg Driver Manager version 0.0.6 loaded |
| [22:08:32] | Beakster: | [17179800.552000] cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.6 loaded |
| [22:08:33] | Beakster: | [17179800.552000] cx8802_register_driver() ->registering driver type=dvb access=shared |
| [22:08:39] | seageek: | I just installed knoppmyth and want to pick up a DVD burner for my box, are there any brands/models I should stay away from? |
| [22:08:42] | juski: | Beakster: is that all ? |
| [22:08:50] | mkrufky: | Beakster: for netiquette, please pastebin or rafb in the future |
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| [22:09:14] | Beakster: | juski, yes i think so |
| [22:09:14] | juski: | timer says 15 mins so far... |
| [22:09:18] | Beakster: | mkrufky, sorry |
| [22:09:36] | mkrufky: | Zombie: bt878 is slightly less efficient for digital tv stuff, so i would recommend the cx88-based one instead |
| [22:09:44] | mkrufky: | although, they both do work very well |
| [22:09:48] | Zombie: | Which is:? |
| [22:09:51] | Zombie: | Which is? |
| [22:10:03] | mkrufky: | Zombie: did you read anything i wrote? |
| [22:10:13] | Zombie: | Yes. |
| [22:10:24] | Zombie: | But I don't know which card has which chipset. |
| [22:10:31] | mkrufky: | says so in the wiki |
| [22:10:34] | mkrufky: | i sent you the link |
| [22:10:38] | Beakster: | mkrufky, what now? do i need to send this card back for replacement? |
| [22:11:02] | juski: | according to the linuxtv wiki, that card should just work (tm) Beakster |
| [22:11:16] | mkrufky: | Beakster: no, pull it out and tell me what chips are on it |
| [22:11:38] | Beakster: | ok, 2 secs, i'll just ahve to irc from my laptop so i can shut this box down |
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| [22:11:52] | mkrufky: | ?? |
| [22:11:57] | mkrufky: | how did you reboot before? |
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| [22:12:12] | mkrufky: | u DIDNT reboot, thats why it isnt working |
| [22:12:22] | mkrufky: | we just replace two subsystem cores — you need to reboot |
| [22:12:22] | Beakster: | mkrufky, i did |
| [22:12:24] | mkrufky: | ok |
| [22:12:43] | tgnb: | hey there i'm trying to setup mythweb but i'm getting the following error: Unable to connect to the master backend at 127.0.0.1:6543. |
| [22:13:36] | tgnb: | i believe i followed the instructions but i dont know where to set that mythtv should look for a different backend server |
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| [22:15:23] | Beakster2: | I hate mirc so much =( |
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| [22:15:55] | Beakster2: | ok, pulling card out now |
| [22:15:56] | mkrufky: | mIRC is great, for a windows app |
| [22:16:08] | mkrufky: | ...but u know gaim also works in windows |
| [22:16:10] | juski: | GAIM is better, and free |
| [22:16:13] | mkrufky: | :-) |
| [22:16:23] | juski: | and Free too I think |
| [22:16:27] | Beakster2: | i like xchat tho |
| [22:16:32] | Beakster2: | and it costs for windows now |
| [22:16:51] | Beakster2: | CX22702–25 |
| [22:17:00] | juski: | so it's one of them |
| [22:17:04] | Beakster2: | CX23883–39 |
| [22:17:15] | juski: | and that's it apart from one little 8 pin SOIC |
| [22:17:27] | juski: | .. if it even has one |
| [22:17:30] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: what is written on the tuner? |
| [22:17:33] | mkrufky: | "tin can" ? |
| [22:17:53] | kormoc: | and string! |
| [22:17:57] | Beakster2: | dont see any 8 pin chips |
| [22:18:17] | Beakster2: | sticker with "WinFast DTV1000 T" |
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| [22:18:31] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: what is under that sticker? |
| [22:18:33] | Beakster2: | P/N: W12G0065 |
| [22:18:52] | Beakster2: | hmm, not sure i want to peel it of incasei have to send it back |
| [22:19:04] | mkrufky: | OOPS |
| [22:19:08] | mkrufky: | i totally screwed up |
| [22:19:10] | Beakster2: | thats on the metal box |
| [22:19:14] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: you want to change it to card=35 |
| [22:19:26] | mkrufky: | card=35 _will_ work |
| [22:19:28] | Beakster2: | ok |
| [22:19:37] | Beakster2: | i'll plug it back in and boot up =) |
| [22:19:46] | mkrufky: | #define CX88_BOARD_WINFAST_DTV1000 35 |
| [22:19:46] | morten_: | mythfrontend goes through some sort of 'pre-scaling' process every time i fire it up. it seems to me that this is rather pointless to do more than once. is it? how can i fix? |
| [22:19:48] | mkrufky: | my fault |
| [22:20:36] | juski: | morten_: make the .mythtv directory in the home dir of your user writable by that user if it's not already, then mythtv will cache the scaled images ;) |
| [22:20:53] | Beakster2: | mkrufky, no problems, i appreciate your help =) |
| [22:21:33] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: i have to go home soon.... but i would LOVE to hear that it works befor ei go |
| [22:21:56] | morten_: | juski: i did. but it seems the subdirs in 'themecache' weren't set properly. the progress bar still shows, but very briefly. |
| [22:21:59] | morten_: | thanks. |
| [22:22:24] | Beakster2: | mkrufky, rebooting with 35 now |
| [22:22:31] | juski: | morten_: that's normal |
| [22:22:42] | morten_: | no way to disable? |
| [22:22:48] | morten_: | that is, no feasible way? |
| [22:23:24] | Beakster2: | ok, ive rebooted |
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| [22:23:37] | Beakster2: | modprobe cx88-dvb now? |
| [22:23:41] | mkrufky: | yes |
| [22:23:55] | mkrufky: | you should add that also to your startup scripts so that you dont have to do it manually |
| [22:24:07] | Beakster2: | i have a /dev/dvb!!!!! |
| [22:24:08] | Beakster2: | =) |
| [22:24:13] | mkrufky: | note to all cx88-dvb users: cx88-dvb will no longer autoload for 2.6.19+ |
| [22:24:16] | mkrufky: | sorry, guys |
| [22:24:39] | Beakster2: | ok, i guess i should add that line to the modprobe.conf? |
| [22:24:42] | mkrufky: | but it was needed in order to support newer cx88 cards that have BOTH a mpeg encoder AND a dvb demod (hvr1300) |
| [22:24:48] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: yeah, i think so |
| [22:25:23] | Beakster2: | ok, i'll see if i can get some video appearing |
| [22:25:47] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: now that that is all working... i have some bad news |
| [22:25:49] | juski: | mkrufky: it doesn't autoload on 2.6.16, fer sure |
| [22:26:14] | mkrufky: | juski: is does, but you are using the linuxtv.org v4l-dvb modules, which are really the 2.6.20 version |
| [22:26:23] | juski: | mkrufky: I'm not. that was my other box |
| [22:26:24] | mkrufky: | 2.6.16 vanilla will still autoload |
| [22:26:58] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: the current drivers do not support the svideo / remote on your card |
| [22:27:15] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: but, I can help to fix that for you .... just not today |
| [22:27:24] | Beakster2: | mkrufky: is that cos my card has problems? |
| [22:27:35] | Beakster2: | mkrufky: or just cos they havent been written? |
| [22:27:37] | mkrufky: | no, it's cuz the guy that added support for your card was lazy |
| [22:27:55] | mirak: | huh vdr is even worse than mythtv |
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| [22:28:01] | juski: | ubuntu's not using a vanilla kernel |
| [22:28:01] | mirak: | the config is shit |
| [22:28:02] | Beakster2: | mkrufky: why have we had these problems? why didnt it "just work"? is there a fault? |
| [22:28:07] | juski: | mirak: duh! |
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| [22:28:24] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: because your card either lacks an eeprom, or it has a corrupted one |
| [22:28:32] | Beakster2: | hmm |
| [22:28:35] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: more likely, that it lacks the eeprom |
| [22:28:39] | mkrufky: | many cards dont have it |
| [22:28:43] | juski: | cost saving |
| [22:28:45] | Beakster2: | mkrufky, ok, so no point in sending it back? |
| [22:28:47] | Gumboot: | I can't seem to run mythfrontend to completion. It appears to run out of memory and crash. |
| [22:28:48] | mkrufky: | the vendors cant afford a 10 cent ic |
| [22:28:53] | juski: | they cost like $0.09 |
| [22:28:58] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: no point to send it back |
| [22:29:04] | Beakster2: | mkrufky, whats the quickets way to get some tv to appear to test it? |
| [22:29:05] | juski: | and windows drivers don't need eeproms |
| [22:29:07] | Gumboot: | How much memory should I expect it to use before at peak? |
| [22:29:41] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: unfortunately, i dont have much time left...... |
| [22:30:01] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: you need to scan for channels, and tune using tzap , view the stream in mplayer |
| [22:30:23] | Gumboot: | s/before // |
| [22:30:35] | Beakster2: | mkrufky, ok, i'll google a bit. i tried a tutorial, but scanning gave me tuning failed |
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| [22:34:40] | mkrufky: | Beakster2: meet me in #linuxtv ... |
| [22:34:40] | mkrufky: | shoudl have said that a long time ago |
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| [22:36:09] | mkrufky: | looks like i was kicked |
| [22:37:19] | juski: | netsplit |
| [22:37:36] | juski: | the joys of freenode :) |
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| [22:38:26] | mkrufky: | yeah, really killed my log bot in my channels |
| [22:38:44] | ** juski hurries up the mythfrontend install ** | |
| [22:38:47] | juski: | tick, tock! |
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| [22:41:52] | mkrufky: | ok , i gotta go |
| [22:41:55] | mkrufky: | goodnight guys |
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| [22:44:45] | juski: | from flat hdd to working frontend in 51mins |
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| [22:48:04] | psofa: | err what has changed with myth and dvb-t? it used to let me select a frequency modulation etc.Now i only get a screen with countries... |
| [22:48:33] | juski: | woyeah ubuntu doesn't gimme problems with playback |
| [22:48:37] | juski: | so it's bye bye minimyth |
| [22:49:01] | psofa: | so what could be different? |
| [22:49:09] | juski: | no idea |
| [22:49:13] | juski: | I'm off to bed |
| [22:49:15] | psofa: | only things that come to mind are alsa version/ kernel version |
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| [22:49:22] | juski: | yup |
| [22:49:25] | juski: | g'night all |
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| [22:53:24] | symbolik: | does the program guide work or does it just pull random channels? |
| [22:53:56] | symbolik: | cause i'm on the zap2it site and enter my postal code, and it's nothing like what i have listing on mythtv program guide using the same postal code |
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| [22:55:05] | kormoc: | symbolik, it pulls what you tell it to, so double check your settigns |
| [22:55:11] | symbolik: | k |
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| [23:09:40] | psofa: | err after updating some sources channels etc this wierd thing happens.When switching to the dvb-t source it successfully switches to the 1st dvb-t channel.Then when i push up/down the title of the other source's channels appear and if i select them nothing happens (obviously).The channel table looks ok.Where else i must check? |
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| [23:26:20] | symbolik: | i have absolutely no idea what i'm doing wrong, channel guide is fine on zap2it, completely wrong on mythtv |
| [23:26:55] | olds: | what's wrong |
| [23:27:27] | symbolik: | my channels are fine, the networks are all in the right spots but the schedule is bunged |
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| [23:32:57] | psofa: | juski, are you still here? |
| [23:33:19] | psofa: | :( |
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| [23:36:22] | symbolik: | what's the number after my provider and postal code under video sources setup |
| [23:36:37] | symbolik: | 0005535 |
| [23:38:27] | symbolik: | nm i see it in the url at zap2it |
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| [23:38:47] | symbolik: | it's the right schedule...i don't get this |
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| [23:39:39] | symbolik: | data is already present, skipping |
| [23:40:12] | symbolik: | ... |
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| [23:52:48] | WAR_CH|LD: | in myth-setup, general options, under job que, in there you ahve the mythcommflag and mythtranscode options, do the variable that work in the customise job's section work in here as well? |
| [23:54:37] | kormoc: | you could try it and see |
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| [23:58:49] | symbolik: | how do i completely clear all program and channel data? |
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