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| [00:00:55] | fysa: | I'm getting audio skipping issues now that I've moved all cards into a separate be. |
| [00:01:24] | charlieS: | well it requires around 5–6 Mb. Are you on wireless or something? :) |
| [00:01:35] | fysa: | gigabit :/ |
| [00:01:40] | charlieS: | hehe |
| [00:01:54] | charlieS: | CPU issues? |
| [00:02:03] | charlieS: | (lemme guess, dual core Opterons) |
| [00:02:04] | fysa: | 50% usage on the fe.. |
| [00:02:16] | charlieS: | oh, I was way off :) |
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| [00:02:28] | fysa: | AMD 64 3200 ;) |
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| [00:02:59] | charlieS: | 50% usage?! Wow.. what video card? |
| [00:03:07] | fysa: | oh, sorry, that's with high-def |
| [00:03:12] | charlieS: | ah :) |
| [00:03:21] | charlieS: | that's also a bit more than 5Mb/s |
| [00:03:33] | fysa: | SD is skipping too though.. |
| [00:03:40] | fysa: | with extra audio buffering off, it's unbearable.. |
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| [00:03:48] | fysa: | with extra audio buffering, it's better but not quite enough. |
| [00:03:59] | fysa: | is there super extra audio buffering? :P |
| [00:04:24] | charlieS: | something else must be having issues.. that shouldn't happen |
| [00:05:06] | fysa: | my read speed over the network hasn't dropped under 13 MB/sec.. |
| [00:07:32] | charlieS: | is the backend a fast box too? |
| [00:07:48] | fysa: | not really, but it's using a PVR-500.. |
| [00:07:57] | fysa: | 1.3 GHz right now |
| [00:08:29] | charlieS: | hrm. but it's streaming at over 100 Mb/s to push your hidef video to frontends. |
| [00:08:48] | fysa: | well, even with standard def I get an audio frame lost every few seconds |
| [00:08:58] | fysa: | hold on, let me watch the logs again. |
| [00:09:05] | charlieS: | too weird. |
| [00:10:13] | russK: | on gentoo, I don't have mythcommflag — anyone know how I get it? I built with backendonly USE flag |
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| [00:11:32] | fysa: | 86% idle on the be while watching SD |
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| [00:11:52] | fysa: | but the skipping seems to have mostly gone away... |
| [00:11:53] | fysa: | argh |
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| [00:12:19] | fysa: | it just did it |
| [00:12:47] | fysa: | 2006-11–08 20:28:52.686 Expiring BN9 Primetime News at 8 from Wed Nov 8 19:59:00 2006, 21 MBytes, forced expire (LiveTV recording) |
| [00:13:01] | fysa: | that was in the log on the be when it happened |
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| [00:18:53] | fysa: | maybe I'm just retarded. |
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| [00:32:25] | charlieS: | :) fysa |
| [00:33:57] | fysa: | another thing that's been bugging me for a while .. I'm using only SPDIF on my fe, so anything that's not AC3 gets sent as a stereo PCM stream.. but the volume between the PCM stream and AC3 streams are always very different (PCM way louder). Can ALSA help me here? |
| [00:34:13] | fysa: | I don't have any actual volume controls for the PCM stream. :/ |
| [00:34:22] | fysa: | everything is muted/off but the IEC958 output, basically. |
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| [00:36:36] | charlieS: | I wonder if a PII 266 with 768M would work as a frontend :) |
| [00:37:16] | antiPo5ix: | charlieS: does the graphics card support hard decoding of mpeg-II |
| [00:37:29] | antiPo5ix: | Xvmc or anything like that? |
| [00:37:34] | charlieS: | the theoretical one would, yes. |
| [00:37:44] | antiPo5ix: | dont try to do transcoding |
| [00:37:57] | charlieS: | no, just frontend |
| [00:38:05] | antiPo5ix: | there is no way a PII could decode an mpeg4 at a res of 480x480 |
| [00:38:12] | antiPo5ix: | I'm talking about playback |
| [00:38:32] | antiPo5ix: | RTJpeg uses less CPU to playback |
| [00:38:38] | charlieS: | but with XvMC, yes? |
| [00:38:58] | antiPo5ix: | both RTJpeg and Mpeg4 would not be able to playback without skip on a 266 |
| [00:39:05] | antiPo5ix: | mpeg-II could though |
| [00:39:08] | antiPo5ix: | I've seen it! |
| [00:39:31] | antiPo5ix: | get a cheap chaintech nvidia card from pricegrabber for about $20 |
| [00:39:33] | charlieS: | well good. (I'm not transcoding anything on the BE anyway) |
| [00:39:56] | antiPo5ix: | I use 366 celerons as my frontends |
| [00:40:16] | charlieS: | well this is a tiny box with one PCI slot. I've found maybe 2 video cards that support MPEG-2 decoding that are PCI. |
| [00:40:49] | antiPo5ix: | no AGP |
| [00:40:53] | antiPo5ix: | pre AGP era |
| [00:41:05] | Joffray: | why do you need mpeg2 decoding? |
| [00:41:15] | adante: | does anybody know why myth would seem to think it is an hour earlier than it is? |
| [00:41:21] | antiPo5ix: | to playback using xvmc on a very old box |
| [00:41:27] | charlieS: | adante: time zones.. |
| [00:42:10] | charlieS: | hrm well this might work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102447 |
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| [00:42:42] | adante: | charlieS: are you talking about the timeoffset? |
| [00:42:56] | adante: | Joffray: are you talking about the timeoffset? |
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| [00:43:16] | adante: | i don't see how i can adjust it without mucking up the EPG info |
| [00:43:32] | antiPo5ix: | I love how cheap video cards are for a mythtv box :) |
| [00:43:35] | Joffray: | did you set your timezone on the OS to an area that doesn't do daylight savings? |
| [00:43:58] | adante: | Joffray: yeah |
| [00:44:06] | charlieS: | adante: is the output of `date` correct? |
| [00:44:10] | adante: | charlieS: yeah |
| [00:44:22] | Joffray: | adante: then that's your problem |
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| [00:44:35] | adante: | Joffray: hm, how do i fix it? |
| [00:44:52] | adante: | Joffray: also, i don't quite understand why that's causing problems |
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| [00:45:24] | Joffray: | if you set your timezone to Arizona, but you live in idaho |
| [00:45:32] | Joffray: | technically you're in the same time zone for part of the year |
| [00:45:38] | Joffray: | but Arizona doesn't do daylight savings |
| [00:45:41] | Joffray: | so after that swtich |
| [00:45:43] | Joffray: | you'd be an hour off |
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| [00:45:51] | charlieS: | just wait a few months. |
| [00:46:05] | adante: | Joffray: well i didn't |
| [00:46:10] | Joffray: | then I don't know |
| [00:46:17] | charlieS: | 16:43 < adante> Joffray: yeah |
| [00:46:41] | adante: | charlieS: he asked me if i set my timezone to an area that doesn't do daylight savings – and i did |
| [00:46:53] | adante: | charlieS: but i didn't set my timezone to a place where i don't live |
| [00:47:08] | charlieS: | adante: there's time-related options in the mythtv settings. don't remember where, but I had to change mine too. |
| [00:47:08] | fysa: | ok. I figured it out, charlieS. |
| [00:47:26] | fysa: | I was just watching "Scrubs" and it was skipping again. |
| [00:47:27] | adante: | i live in a place without DST |
| [00:47:36] | fysa: | I realized it's the interlace-detection algorithm going haywire. |
| [00:47:47] | fysa: | If I force it to 'Progressive,' it works fine. |
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| [00:48:00] | charlieS: | interesting. |
| [00:48:01] | adante: | charlieS: if you're referring to timeoffset, i've tried changing it, all it seems to do is shift the guide data around |
| [00:48:04] | fysa: | If I leave it on auto, it goes back and forth every minute or two and loses sync each time. |
| [00:48:08] | charlieS: | hehe Scrubs rocks |
| [00:48:14] | adante: | all i want to do is make the myth scheduler read the time that is on my system! |
| [00:48:18] | Joffray: | adante |
| [00:48:30] | Joffray: | what is the current system time |
| [00:48:37] | adante: | Joffray: date returns 1048 |
| [00:48:42] | fysa: | would setting pulldown=1 on my ivtv driver fix it maybe? |
| [00:48:50] | adante: | Joffray: when i go into mythweb, it says MythWeb: Fri Nov 10, 2006, 11:48 AM |
| [00:49:12] | Joffray: | jeff@jeff-desktop:~$ date |
| [00:49:12] | Joffray: | Thu Nov 9 17:48:47 MST 2006 |
| [00:49:22] | charlieS: | adante: it's Thursday! |
| [00:49:29] | charlieS: | (hehe) |
| [00:49:36] | adante: | Joffray: ok, i abridged it: Fri Nov 10 10:49:24 EST 2006 |
| [00:49:49] | adante: | charlieS: here in australia we live IN THE FUTURE :] |
| [00:49:57] | Joffray: | EST? |
| [00:50:00] | Joffray: | isn't that in the US? |
| [00:50:01] | charlieS: | fysa: well it'd be performing the the 3:2 pulldown in hardware, so probably would help. |
| [00:50:19] | Joffray: | I gotta go make dinner |
| [00:50:20] | Joffray: | bbl |
| [00:50:40] | charlieS: | me goes to get some work done |
| [00:51:04] | fysa: | ivtvctl is different.. |
| [00:51:16] | adante: | Joffray: well, all i know is /etc/localtime is linked to the right timezone |
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| [00:54:43] | fysa: | the ivtvctl command changed in 0.8.0? |
| [00:56:17] | fysa: | .. |
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| [01:05:25] | adante: | anybody here using xvn? |
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| [01:06:02] | GreyFoxx: | xvn ? What's that? |
| [01:06:16] | adante: | extreme svn |
| [01:06:28] | adante: | it's like extreme sports but for sourcecode |
| [01:06:41] | adante: | also known as a typo – anybody using svn? |
| [01:06:48] | GreyFoxx: | Yes :) |
| [01:07:02] | GreyFoxx: | Though I haven't updated since last weekend |
| [01:07:05] | adante: | GreyFoxx: are you on a stable revision? if so, what? |
| [01:07:11] | GreyFoxx: | No, svn head |
| [01:07:21] | adante: | rats |
| [01:07:36] | adante: | i upgraded last week and started to get this http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 0off;#140878 |
| [01:08:08] | adante: | trying to figure out how far back i have to go to stop it :] |
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| [01:10:17] | GreyFoxx: | Not 100% sure what revision I'm on. I updated my source yesterday as I was gonna update lastnight, but neverhad time :) And I don't have that particularproblem |
| [01:10:20] | adante: | hmm of course that post was in 2005, heh |
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| [01:11:50] | adante: | well, that sucks |
| [01:11:59] | adante: | then i have no idea what is causing this and my myth is completely busto |
| [01:12:11] | GreyFoxx: | If your date command is showing the EST timezone I would doubt it's something myth is causing :) |
| [01:13:18] | adante: | GreyFoxx: pretty sure thats short for AEST |
| [01:13:27] | fysa: | getting lots of IOBOUNDs |
| [01:13:46] | adante: | which is to say, it turns up the same on most other boxes in this timezone |
| [01:14:04] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [01:15:51] | adante: | reckon this could be caused by some sort of DST insanity |
| [01:16:35] | adante: | other parts of aus are +1 hour ahead, just like my scheduler |
| [01:17:13] | adante: | but, i'm fairly confident my timezone is correct, so i don't know why the scheduler would get the wrong time |
| [01:17:52] | adante: | although i have noticed that a lot of software does assume the entire aussie east coast does DST |
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| [01:20:49] | mcf3782: | Anyone have any experience with the PVR 150 card and myth? I've tried both knoppmyth and gentoo and can't get anything other than a black screen when I try to watch live tv. |
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| [01:21:13] | mcf3782: | If I 'cat /dev/video0 >test.mpg' then all I ever get is a zero length file |
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| [01:21:40] | mcf3782: | I've exhauseted searching google and reading web page after web page... nothing seems to help. |
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| [01:23:48] | Joffray: | /dev/video0 is a device |
| [01:23:51] | Joffray: | not a file |
| [01:25:40] | adante: | aww rats |
| [01:25:45] | adante: | forgot to backup the database |
| [01:25:58] | adante: | i guess downgrading is now outta the question :] |
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| [01:26:47] | SavageOne: | yoyoyo |
| [01:29:43] | dhr: | I want to run a mythfrontend on its own box, talking to my master backend. The howto seems to suggest that when I first run mythfrontend it should ask some config questions. Instead, it just whines that it cannot open the database. How is configuration of a client system to be done? Here is the whining: http://pastebin.ca/244525 |
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| [01:30:52] | Joffray: | you need to allow access on your mysql server for the frontend ip |
| [01:31:13] | Joffray: | as well as specify the mysql ip, login/pass in the mysql.txt file |
| [01:32:52] | dhr: | Thanks. I'll work at that. |
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| [01:33:16] | stf57: | Hello group!!! |
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| [01:34:55] | SavageOne: | sI'm getting failed to open card |
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| [01:35:01] | SavageOne: | pvr-150 mce edition |
| [01:35:12] | SavageOne: | p4 1.8 GHz with 1 GB of ram |
| [01:35:29] | SavageOne: | I added the card under the settings for chose mpeg x50 |
| [01:35:36] | SavageOne: | added a video source, named it tuner 1 |
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| [01:35:47] | SavageOne: | went to input sources and it says NONE |
| [01:35:54] | SavageOne: | and channel editor says can't connect to card |
| [01:36:00] | SavageOne: | I alt-2'd the backend off |
| [01:36:03] | SavageOne: | and still |
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| [01:36:05] | SavageOne: | any suggestions |
| [01:36:11] | SavageOne: | this is my 5th format here I'm going crazy |
| [01:36:13] | dhr: | SavageOne: best to look at the log. See if IVTV had problems. |
| [01:36:27] | SavageOne: | how would I look at the log? |
| [01:36:46] | SavageOne: | I'm ssh'd in now |
| [01:37:05] | Joffray: | well |
| [01:37:14] | Joffray: | the output from the console |
| [01:37:21] | Joffray: | when you run mythtv-setup |
| [01:37:36] | SavageOne: | so hit control alt 2? |
| [01:37:42] | Joffray: | huh? |
| [01:37:45] | dhr: | log is two places (depending on distro): dmesg command output, or /var/log/messages |
| [01:37:48] | SavageOne: | I know what it is i just don't know how to find it |
| [01:37:55] | SavageOne: | I'm using knoppmyth |
| [01:38:05] | Joffray: | just look at the console |
| [01:38:37] | SavageOne: | joffray: he wants me to run mythtv-setup while I'm in there I won't see a command line, you mean one of the other instances? |
| [01:38:47] | SavageOne: | if I hit control and alt and 2 I get another instance of command line |
| [01:38:54] | Joffray: | just alt tab |
| [01:38:58] | SavageOne: | I don't know what it's called but it's what I always to |
| [01:39:30] | Joffray: | just goto command line, type mythtv-setup |
| [01:39:47] | Joffray: | now if you alt tab, you should see the console |
| [01:39:49] | dhr: | Joffray: SavageOne says he's ssh'ed in. So looking at log files or dmesg output would be the most straightforward, I'd think. |
| [01:39:50] | Joffray: | alt+tab |
| [01:40:07] | Joffray: | well then how is he running mythtv-setup |
| [01:40:31] | dhr: | ssh & through console? |
| [01:40:42] | dhr: | two connections, only one doing the setup. |
| [01:41:09] | SavageOne: | I looked at it and I'm getting livetv errors |
| [01:41:16] | SavageOne: | says it didn't start successfully |
| [01:41:47] | SavageOne: | but that's in mythtv |
| [01:41:53] | SavageOne: | if I do mythtv-setup I got no output there |
| [01:42:02] | Joffray: | where? |
| [01:42:08] | SavageOne: | lemme try removing all the connections and re add them and see if I get any stuff |
| [01:42:15] | SavageOne: | alt-tab to the shell window joffray |
| [01:42:33] | Joffray: | well of course you're going to see something |
| [01:43:06] | SavageOne: | yeah but nothing comes up |
| [01:43:11] | SavageOne: | it just says it connected to the databse |
| [01:43:16] | SavageOne: | as I add stuff it doesn't nothing |
| [01:43:25] | SavageOne: | gonna try again here I didn't remove the capture card and start from scratch |
| [01:43:30] | Joffray: | you want the output from where it fails |
| [01:44:27] | fysa: | ah. 90% wait :/ |
| [01:44:47] | dhr: | Joffray: I've started setting up a machine with only mythfrontend, intended to to talk to another box as master. But the client box does have a tuner. Is it better to run a backend on the client as well, but still use the master box as master? |
| [01:45:20] | Joffray: | if you want to be able to use that tuner, you have to run mythbackend on it as well |
| [01:45:40] | Joffray: | but you can connect it to a 'master' backend |
| [01:46:40] | dhr: | do things recorded on a slave stay on the slave, with only the database entries on the master? |
| [01:47:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [01:47:44] | fysa: | ivtv1: All encoder MPEG stream buffers are full. Dropping data. – ivtv1: Cause: the application is not reading fast enough. |
| [01:48:04] | dhr: | The slave has a tuner, but only a small drive (10G total). I wonder if NFS would work or be too slow. |
| [01:48:05] | fysa: | That's caused by io wait and not the other way around, right? |
| [01:48:29] | SavageOne: | okay sdo I watch the xterm |
| [01:48:39] | SavageOne: | and I add the capture card, the video input, etc |
| [01:48:46] | SavageOne: | and nothing comes out except this line w/ the date |
| [01:48:48] | SavageOne: | that's it |
| [01:48:49] | SavageOne: | period |
| [01:49:07] | SavageOne: | I get errors about lirc not cnneting to some device but tha't cuz my remote aint plugged in |
| [01:50:45] | dhr: | SavageOne: are you still sshed in from another computer? |
| [01:50:57] | SavageOne: | yeah but not using it |
| [01:51:00] | SavageOne: | I can if you're like |
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| [01:51:33] | dhr: | Joffray seems to know more, but I'll try to help. Go to it. type: dmesg | less |
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| [01:52:15] | dhr: | then do a search for a bunch of equal signs (type /==== then return |
| [01:52:31] | dhr: | It should stop at ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ==================== |
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| [01:54:23] | SavageOne: | k |
| [01:54:25] | SavageOne: | I got a bunch |
| [01:54:27] | SavageOne: | pm the output? |
| [01:54:39] | dhr: | put it in pastebin.ca |
| [01:55:18] | SavageOne: | http://pastebin.ca/244691 |
| [01:56:09] | SavageOne: | looks like it sees the card |
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| [01:57:19] | dhr: | SavageOne: this is incomplete. It should end with a line like ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ==================== |
| [01:57:33] | SavageOne: | shit |
| [01:58:37] | SavageOne: | http://pastebin.ca/244695 |
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| [01:58:39] | SavageOne: | my bad ;) |
| [01:59:57] | dhr: | SavateOne: IVTV seems happy. So you ought to have a tuner. What did you tell myth setup? |
| [02:00:15] | SavageOne: | k |
| [02:00:26] | SavageOne: | I didn't really touch general |
| [02:00:29] | SavageOne: | I went to capture cards |
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| [02:01:03] | SavageOne: | new capture card, chose mpeg2-encoder card (pvr-x50, pvr-500) |
| [02:01:04] | dhr: | I've not gone through the setup often enough to memorize it. Probably enough to do it myself :-) |
| [02:01:08] | SavageOne: | that's exactly what that part says |
| [02:01:25] | dhr: | that's right, but not all you have to do. |
| [02:02:00] | SavageOne: | i got more ;) |
| [02:02:18] | SavageOne: | below that in capture cards it defaults to /dev/video0 and below I have it set to tuner 1 |
| [02:02:42] | SavageOne: | then I go to finish and then on to video sources |
| [02:02:50] | SavageOne: | I add a video source, I'm told I can namke it anything |
| [02:02:54] | SavageOne: | I've been calling it tuner 1 |
| [02:03:03] | SavageOne: | actually this one I named video1 |
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| [02:03:14] | SavageOne: | under xml tv listinjgs it's on datadirect |
| [02:03:18] | SavageOne: | I got no username and password |
| [02:03:37] | SavageOne: | I've tried data direct and transmitted guide only both w/ same results |
| [02:03:39] | SavageOne: | I finish that |
| [02:03:50] | SavageOne: | then I go on to inpout connections |
| [02:04:14] | SavageOne: | in prior installations, under the top one here that's /dev/video1 tuner 1 it said a card there now it says (none) |
| [02:04:24] | dhr: | to download from zap2it, you need a username and password. |
| [02:04:43] | SavageOne: | is that necessary? eit is just the ones the channels download right? |
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| [02:04:49] | dhr: | That's where the channel lineup comes from (as well as the actual listings). |
| [02:04:59] | SavageOne: | either way I'm not too concerned about accurate listings just want to see the tv on the screen then I'll move onto that |
| [02:05:02] | SavageOne: | ahhh |
| [02:05:05] | SavageOne: | so I NEEEED that? |
| [02:05:09] | SavageOne: | how do I get a user password |
| [02:05:14] | SavageOne: | you think that's what's fouling me up? |
| [02:06:08] | SavageOne: | i'm on zap2it.com but don't see a spot for username password |
| [02:06:09] | dhr: | the process is described in the myth documentation somewhere. It may be fouling you up. Worth fixing anyway so there is no downside. |
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| [02:07:04] | SavageOne: | k |
| [02:07:09] | SavageOne: | i found that in the directions doing that now |
| [02:07:18] | SavageOne: | but that wouldn't stop the tv frtom working would it |
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| [02:08:59] | Joffray: | EIT is for DVB only |
| [02:09:11] | Joffray: | so you won't get anywhere with that on your pvr-150 |
| [02:09:16] | SavageOne: | thanks |
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| [02:09:19] | SavageOne: | that's good to know |
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| [02:09:27] | SavageOne: | I added my lineup and I'm putting the user pass in now |
| [02:09:31] | SavageOne: | no need to scan for channels? |
| [02:09:39] | Joffray: | you need to scan for channels |
| [02:09:44] | Joffray: | or you won't have anything to watch |
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| [02:10:32] | SavageOne: | I thought the data direct populated that |
| [02:10:36] | SavageOne: | it won't LET me scan for channels |
| [02:10:38] | SavageOne: | that's the whole thing |
| [02:10:42] | SavageOne: | says it cdan't see the card |
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| [02:10:57] | SavageOne: | I put datadirect user pass in, exited, ran mythfilldatabase |
| [02:11:05] | SavageOne: | and now it's downloading all kinda of stuff I assume that's good |
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| [02:12:30] | SavageOne: | still downloading |
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| [02:13:14] | SavageOne: | but you see what I'm saying? |
| [02:13:19] | SavageOne: | under input connections it shows nothing |
| [02:13:38] | SavageOne: | so if I try to go to channel editor or in the input connections to scan for channels I get nada it says it can't connect to the card |
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| [02:16:46] | SavageOne: | any ideas brother? |
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| [02:18:26] | dhr: | SavageOne: I think that you've got more of setup to do, but I don't remember well enough to help. |
| [02:19:11] | SavageOne: | shit |
| [02:19:39] | SavageOne: | it downloaded all the stuff from datadirect |
| [02:20:03] | SavageOne: | hey |
| [02:20:09] | SavageOne: | it's scanning for channels and finding some I think |
| [02:20:15] | SavageOne: | I had to go into inpuit connections and name it |
| [02:20:38] | SavageOne: | I think I didn't bind the inputs and the card together right |
| [02:22:22] | SavageOne: | holy shit |
| [02:22:24] | SavageOne: | I've got tv |
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| [02:23:58] | dhr: | good! So I was vaguely right about needing more setup. |
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| [02:24:40] | dhr: | any idea where you tell mysql to accept connections from another machine? |
| [02:24:58] | kormoc: | dhr, it's covered in the docs on myth's site |
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| [02:25:25] | SavageOne: | dhr: I set up a frontend once for a pal of mine but his mythtv was all setup, and I used knoppmyth and the frontend just asked for the ip of his box and wammo |
| [02:25:37] | SavageOne: | hey guys if I do mythtv from teh command line, it goes right to live tv |
| [02:25:46] | SavageOne: | what if I want to exit to the main mythtv menu w/o remote |
| [02:25:48] | kormoc: | SavageOne, run mythfrontend not mythtv |
| [02:25:54] | SavageOne: | oh |
| [02:25:55] | SavageOne: | there we go |
| [02:25:56] | SavageOne: | ;) |
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| [02:27:14] | SavageOne: | keyboard command for volume? |
| [02:27:20] | SavageOne: | testing sound in headphones no volume |
| [02:27:44] | SavageOne: | k f10 and f11 |
| [02:27:48] | SavageOne: | but I think I'm muted |
| [02:27:50] | SavageOne: | alsamixer? |
| [02:28:06] | kormoc: | SavageOne, why don't you try it and see |
| [02:28:45] | SavageOne: | I am |
| [02:28:47] | SavageOne: | hey question |
| [02:29:05] | SavageOne: | is my tv sound gonna come out the rcas on the pvr-150 or the computers sound output |
| [02:29:25] | kormoc: | there is no outputs on a 150 |
| [02:29:50] | SavageOne: | got it |
| [02:29:58] | SavageOne: | alsamixer wanted the "headphone" poutput unmuted |
| [02:30:09] | SavageOne: | kormoc: saw them didn't know if it was input or output |
| [02:30:36] | kormoc: | it does say in the pvr 150's manual |
| [02:31:14] | SavageOne: | thanks bro |
| [02:31:23] | SavageOne: | I appreciate the attitude |
| [02:31:29] | SavageOne: | it's fantastic to be talked down to |
| [02:31:35] | SavageOne: | of course it says it in the manual |
| [02:31:46] | SavageOne: | ask a quick question, or dig out a manual? |
| [02:32:04] | SavageOne: | next time you have a smart ass remark, write it on a piece of paper and wipe your ass with it k? |
| [02:32:06] | SavageOne: | thanks |
| [02:32:21] | SavageOne: | thanks for all your help dhr! |
| [02:32:36] | SavageOne: | it was all between the inut connections and that zap2it deal.... |
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| [02:33:11] | SavageOne: | i skipped that part of the directions at first because I thought its only benefit was to get listings furhter ahead in time and that it would be able to do the 48 hours from the regular cable |
| [02:33:19] | SavageOne: | btu I don't have digital cable, just basic cable |
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| [02:33:27] | SavageOne: | once you get this thing going it's pretty nice |
| [02:33:44] | SavageOne: | the pause etc is running smoothly on my p4 1.8ghz 1 gb of ram |
| [02:33:55] | SavageOne: | does knoppmyth or mythtv in general utilize samba? |
| [02:34:00] | kormoc: | SavageOne, people write manuals for a reason, we're all volenteers here, giving our free time up to answer questiosn |
| [02:34:04] | SavageOne: | I'd like to transfer a bunch of videos to it and/or let it read |
| [02:34:17] | SavageOne: | kormoc: you're giving your free time to be an asshole instead? |
| [02:34:25] | SavageOne: | I'm a volunteer in several channels also |
| [02:34:30] | SavageOne: | and I do tech support for a living |
| [02:34:39] | kormoc: | SavageOne, when people ask questions that are easily found elsewhere, it's eating up our free time in exhance for there's, it doesn't seem like it's fair for us to waste our time to make your life a little easier |
| [02:34:41] | SavageOne: | and rarely do i pull this "read the fucking manual" bullshit you are |
| [02:34:43] | SavageOne: | I read the manual |
| [02:34:48] | kormoc: | SavageOne, no you didn't |
| [02:34:48] | SavageOne: | and had some confusion regarding it |
| [02:34:55] | SavageOne: | and someone was nice enough to help me |
| [02:35:04] | kormoc: | SavageOne, you could ask about the confusion rather then asking something that's rather black and white |
| [02:35:10] | SavageOne: | there's nothing going on here! what's eating free time is your ego brother |
| [02:35:18] | SavageOne: | whatever |
| [02:35:24] | SavageOne: | arguing with you is a waste of my time |
| [02:35:26] | riddlebox: | man I am trying to find out how mythweb inserts custom recordings into the mysql database but I am not having any luck, does anyone have an idea for me? |
| [02:35:34] | dhr: | SavageOne: calm: you're burning bridges. |
| [02:35:43] | SavageOne: | dhr: you got it |
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| [02:35:58] | SavageOne: | it's been a long 15 hour day and I'm not a fan of negativism |
| [02:37:07] | kormoc: | SavageOne, so go elsewhere if you want someone to hold your hand. I answered your questions, and told you where they were for future reference. what more do you want? some cake and baby talk? |
| [02:37:41] | SavageOne: | dhr: I found me a nice samba how to |
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| [02:37:44] | SavageOne: | quite nice |
| [02:38:38] | kormoc: | riddlebox, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . s_manual.php |
| [02:38:52] | kormoc: | riddlebox, and look at the chedule save class for the actual db insert |
| [02:39:23] | riddlebox: | kormoc, I did a grep "INSERT INTO" schedules_manual.php and it turned up nothing? |
| [02:39:39] | kormoc: | riddlebox, that's cause it's not isnerting in that file |
| [02:39:50] | kormoc: | riddlebox, the insert happens in the schedule class |
| [02:40:03] | kormoc: | riddlebox, grep for 'class schedule' and then look at the save function in that class |
| [02:40:05] | SavageOne: | casual observation: apt-get is the bomb |
| [02:43:09] | riddlebox: | kormoc, that search turns up nothing |
| [02:43:24] | SavageOne: | I'm mounting a remote share on a windows box to the music but can you use smbmount for multiple shares to be mounted to the same /myth/music and have all the different sources show up? |
| [02:44:25] | kormoc: | riddlebox, it's somewhere in the mythweb source, xris would know more percicely |
| [02:44:34] | riddlebox: | kormoc, you are talking about line 107 I think |
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| [02:45:19] | kormoc: | riddlebox, yeah, that's the function, you need to look at the class definitation that $schedule is |
| [02:46:49] | riddlebox: | kormoc, the problem is I am not sure where to find that class definitation at, I do not know php at all, I am just slowly reading through it trying to figure out how it works |
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| [02:47:32] | kormoc: | riddlebox, you grepped for class schedule with -i or not? |
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| [02:48:08] | riddlebox: | kormoc, no I will try it now |
| [02:48:15] | kormoc: | riddlebox, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . chedules.php |
| [02:48:26] | kormoc: | riddlebox, line 220 starts |
| [02:48:38] | riddlebox: | thanks |
| [02:51:07] | riddlebox: | kormoc, I saw that, but it says REPLACE INTO RECORD, not INSERT |
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| [02:52:49] | jstew: | Hi, is there any way I can change the giant font in the program guide and on the categories? I'm doing svideo out, nvidia, 800x600. |
| [02:52:57] | jstew: | fond size settings have no effect |
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| [02:55:26] | mishehu: | does mythtv work with fftw 3.1.x ? |
| [02:55:30] | mishehu: | or only 2.1.x? |
| [02:57:41] | kormoc: | riddlebox, replace will overwrite if the keyed record already exists (updates it), or inserts if it doesn't |
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| [02:58:28] | riddlebox: | kormoc, ahh I see |
| [02:59:36] | riddlebox: | kormoc, I am writing an asterisk agi program to setup manual recordings from my cell phone :) |
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| [03:01:51] | jstew: | thats a great idea riddlebox |
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| [03:02:13] | riddlebox: | I already have one setup where it uses mythweb |
| [03:02:48] | riddlebox: | http://vallista.idyll.org/~james/ if you are interested |
| [03:06:37] | jstew: | anyone know how to solve font problems on tv-out display? |
| [03:09:20] | SavageOne: | trying to make it so my mouse can be used on all menus but it's hidden |
| [03:09:25] | SavageOne: | looked through settings, any hints? |
| [03:09:45] | riddlebox: | dont know, I use my keyboard for everything |
| [03:10:04] | SavageOne: | yeah trying to mess with the music player to see if it mounted right |
| [03:10:13] | SavageOne: | but I dunno the keyboard commands and don't have my remote here at the shop |
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| [03:11:50] | SavageOne: | wmv is a no go eh? |
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| [03:14:27] | Ediehow: | hi friends |
| [03:14:32] | Ediehow: | how do i edit an .mpeg file in linux |
| [03:14:35] | Ediehow: | a .mov, |
| [03:14:36] | Ediehow: | and remove portions |
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| [03:21:47] | jstew: | I dont know about .mov but theres avidemux |
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| [03:23:29] | SavageOne: | hey |
| [03:23:33] | SavageOne: | how do I get to the web browser? |
| [03:24:00] | kormoc: | install it and then select browser from the menu? |
| [03:24:42] | SavageOne: | not seeing browser |
| [03:24:48] | SavageOne: | I installed the firefox frok the wiki intructions |
| [03:24:56] | SavageOne: | and I see browser SETTINGS but browser not in menu |
| [03:25:01] | SavageOne: | strange |
| [03:25:02] | SavageOne: | switching theme |
| [03:25:50] | SavageOne: | ahh when you switch themes you can turn the mouse on |
| [03:25:55] | SavageOne: | let's see if I have a browser menu item now |
| [03:28:14] | SavageOne: | yup |
| [03:28:16] | SavageOne: | under info center |
| [03:29:15] | SavageOne: | alright I'm out of here time for some rest |
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| [03:29:50] | Ediehow: | avidemux? |
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| [03:34:41] | WeezeyD: | Can someone using Fedora on their mythbackend do: cat /proc/meminfo | grep Vm and let me know the numbers? |
| [03:36:12] | kormoc: | Weezey, wouldn't a pmap -d `pidof mythbackend/` | tail -1 be more useful? |
| [03:37:35] | kormoc: | without the / of course |
| [03:39:37] | tim_: | kormoc, you are one of the mythtv developers? |
| [03:40:12] | tim_: | I'm curious, is there any kind of block diagram that shows the architecture of myth? |
| [03:40:33] | kormoc: | tim_, I've done a little work with mythweb, but I'm not really a myth dev, no |
| [03:40:42] | kormoc: | tim_, and alas, there's a real lack of documentation like that |
| [03:40:52] | tim_: | Oh, too bad. |
| [03:40:59] | kormoc: | tim_, there's some pages on the wiki that go over a bit of that, but not in too much detail |
| [03:41:07] | tim_: | Thanks |
| [03:41:59] | tim_: | How about this: I installed Knoppmyth but when I restarted the machine it wouldn't work (couldn't watch tv). I found that the backend had not started. From what I've read it does not start automatically. Is this correct? |
| [03:42:15] | kormoc: | typically, yes |
| [03:42:29] | kormoc: | I thought knoppmyth was one that did start it automatically, but perhaps I was mistaken |
| [03:42:51] | tim_: | That seems weird. The front end starts, but no backend |
| [03:43:07] | tim_: | Maybe. It might just be a configuration problem on my system. |
| [03:43:40] | kormoc: | each distro handles automatic startup of programs differently, so you'd need to ask someone who knows about knoppmyth / knoppix |
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| [03:49:24] | fysa: | wow. blockdev --setra 2048 and lvchange -r 2048 fixed my read speed problems. |
| [03:50:00] | Weezey: | ivtv's kickin' my ass |
| [03:50:15] | fysa: | what's it doing? |
| [03:50:23] | Weezey: | crashin' like a mofo |
| [03:50:51] | fysa: | dmesg? |
| [03:51:10] | Weezey: | rebootin' |
| [03:51:17] | Weezey: | it keeps running out of memory |
| [03:51:22] | Weezey: | and then crashing mythbackend |
| [03:51:23] | fysa: | I have to use newi2c=0 as an option for some reason |
| [03:51:32] | fysa: | or it won't recognize my PVR-500 properly |
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| [03:51:47] | Weezey: | in modprobe.conf ? |
| [03:51:59] | fysa: | yeah, options ivtv newi2c=0 |
| [03:52:15] | Weezey: | how old is your pvr-500? |
| [03:52:29] | fysa: | Philips tuner MCE 500.. |
| [03:53:08] | Weezey: | you still want to see my dmesg? |
| [03:53:20] | fysa: | happened after moving it to a different machine. worked fine without touching anything in my AMD64 box.. but in the older NF2 board, it started acting up. |
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| [03:53:44] | fysa: | do you have a dmesg that it prints when it crashes? |
| [03:53:55] | fysa: | from /var/log/messages or something? |
| [03:54:04] | Weezey: | fysa: I can get one, I emailed it to me |
| [03:55:39] | Weezey: | http://pastebin.com/820919 |
| [03:56:08] | Weezey: | that's off of my secondary backend, but it's the same problem on the primary |
| [03:56:16] | Weezey: | different cards |
| [03:56:35] | Weezey: | pvr-350 on secondary and PVR-150 on master |
| [03:56:50] | fysa: | when did it start? |
| [03:57:34] | Weezey: | the memory issues, probably two days for sure |
| [03:57:41] | Weezey: | but it hasn't been stable since 0.21 |
| [03:58:22] | fysa: | probably two different problems |
| [03:58:44] | Weezey: | before the memory issues was the tinny audio on the pvr-150 and the occasional reboot |
| [03:59:00] | fysa: | which ivtv? |
| [03:59:04] | Weezey: | so I updated the 150 code to ivtv-0.7 |
| [03:59:10] | fysa: | 2.6.17? |
| [03:59:12] | Weezey: | yep |
| [03:59:30] | fysa: | you updated the pvr-350 also? |
| [03:59:32] | Weezey: | both boxes the 350 box was running 2.6.18 |
| [03:59:43] | Weezey: | but it kept crashing |
| [03:59:47] | fysa: | oh, two different boxes |
| [03:59:54] | fysa: | you download firmware again lately? |
| [04:00:08] | Weezey: | yeah both are within a few days |
| [04:00:19] | Weezey: | but may be installed wrong? |
| [04:00:59] | fysa: | I think I saw that ivtv dump earlier here when the drive couldn't keep up with a recording and the device kept filling its buffers |
| [04:01:22] | Weezey: | that's a posibility |
| [04:01:24] | fysa: | the page alloc failure |
| [04:01:48] | fysa: | but I'm using 0.8.0 as of a few hours ago |
| [04:02:09] | fysa: | try lowering your bitrates in myth? |
| [04:02:31] | Weezey: | where abouts? |
| [04:02:39] | fysa: | live tv/recording? |
| [04:02:54] | Weezey: | k, that doesn't explain the secondary one though |
| [04:03:08] | jstew: | Hi, is there any way I can change the giant font in the program guide and on the categories? I'm doing svideo out, nvidia, 800x600. |
| [04:03:13] | Weezey: | it's recording locally to a system that's doin' nothing. |
| [04:04:19] | Weezey: | though, perhaps the system drive is screwy. |
| [04:04:30] | fysa: | You may want to try the card in a different slot first.. |
| [04:04:52] | Weezey: | k. Well, you've given me more stuff to try. |
| [04:05:14] | Weezey: | most importantly I have to get the masterbackend working again before my neighbours and wife kill me. |
| [04:05:19] | fysa: | haha |
| [04:05:24] | fysa: | I know how it feels. |
| [04:05:54] | Weezey: | the guys on the asterisk mailing list I'm on call it the spouse test |
| [04:06:08] | Weezey: | if it doesn't pass that, it won't stay in the house. |
| [04:06:46] | fysa: | you try a lspci? |
| [04:07:04] | fysa: | lspci -vv and make sure its not sharing an IRQ with something |
| [04:08:49] | Weezey: | master's clean. |
| [04:09:25] | fysa: | I think I just found my problem.. both of my encoder cards are sharing an IRQ with the network card and SATA card. |
| [04:09:27] | fysa: | that can't be good. |
| [04:14:45] | GreyFoxx: | n |
| [04:14:58] | Weezey: | y |
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| [04:15:33] | fysa: | all IRQ 177. maybe I should try fixing the DSDT.. |
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| [04:23:21] | savage1: | hello all |
| [04:23:34] | savage1: | I checked my lircrc config file and all is well but still no remote in the menus |
| [04:23:39] | hhhjr: | hello, can anyone please direct me to a link that explains how to install the ttpci firmware, sorrycomplete nubie |
| [04:23:42] | savage1: | I reran the lirc config to see |
| [04:23:50] | savage1: | pvr 150 dog bone silver remote |
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| [04:29:53] | FGPDoug2: | Hey guys, question for you: I didn't put in my datadirect settings during setup. Is there a way to enter in the settings now, with mythtv fully installed? |
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| [04:36:26] | Anduin: | FGPDoug2: mythtv-setup |
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| [04:40:30] | fysa: | is there a way to record to a partition and then move to a different partition when recording is complete? |
| [04:42:18] | EnterUserName: | hi all |
| [04:42:25] | EnterUserName: | I can't seem to get the xv controls to work for the colour |
| [04:42:42] | EnterUserName: | it goes to negative 1 when i try to use the arrow keys.. how do i change the brightness |
| [04:42:45] | EnterUserName: | any ideas? |
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| [04:48:08] | FGPDoug2: | Wow, my tv card must be real bad if its lagging on a p4 2.8 with half a gig of ram. |
| [04:48:48] | EnterUserName: | ow hey all |
| [04:48:54] | EnterUserName: | how do you change the brightess in mythtv |
| [04:50:35] | Joffray: | press M |
| [04:50:38] | Joffray: | adjust picture |
| [04:50:41] | Joffray: | Brightness |
| [04:50:44] | EnterUserName: | sigh i did that it doesnt work |
| [04:50:48] | EnterUserName: | it stays on -1 |
| [04:50:53] | EnterUserName: | and then messes up |
| [04:50:55] | Joffray: | mine says 50% |
| [04:51:11] | FGPDoug2: | Gah. Its not picking up my tv listings =( |
| [04:51:46] | EnterUserName: | anyone else? |
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| [04:52:11] | Joffray: | that's how you change it |
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| [04:54:42] | __david: | Hello, I seem to have broken my mythtv box by messing up mysql |
| [04:54:53] | __david: | The error I get is Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [04:55:06] | __david: | what should I do to fix this |
| [04:55:12] | __david: | I googled around to no avail |
| [04:55:18] | EnterUserName: | whyd oesnt the brightness |
| [04:55:47] | Joffray: | you should add the mythtv user to your mysql database |
| [04:55:56] | __david: | Joffray, I have a mythtv user |
| [04:56:09] | __david: | the localhost one has full priveledges |
| [04:56:19] | __david: | I think I might've changed the password |
| [04:56:26] | Joffray: | then change the password |
| [04:56:28] | Joffray: | :) |
| [04:56:28] | __david: | what should it be to make it work? |
| [04:56:36] | Joffray: | whatever it's set to |
| [04:56:44] | __david: | Where should I change it? |
| [04:57:05] | __david: | I used phpmyadmin to clear the passward |
| [04:57:10] | __david: | and then it didn't work |
| [04:57:17] | __david: | so I changed the password to "mythtv" |
| [04:57:22] | __david: | and it still didn't work |
| [04:57:33] | Joffray: | look at whatever the password is in the mysql.txt file |
| [04:57:39] | Joffray: | set it to that |
| [04:57:41] | Joffray: | or vice versa |
| [04:57:46] | Joffray: | they just have to be the same |
| [04:58:02] | __david: | where is mysql.txt? |
| [04:58:08] | __david: | ~ on ubuntu |
| [04:58:17] | Joffray: | locate mysql.txt |
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| [04:58:58] | __david: | Thank you so much! |
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| [04:59:16] | __david: | And i must say, a random string of 8 characters isn't what I would've guessed it to be |
| [04:59:32] | __david: | You've saved me, and I really appreciate you tolerating my idiot question |
| [04:59:37] | Joffray: | :) |
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| [05:17:42] | defaultro: | hey folks, what is Apple Remote? |
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| [05:22:39] | fysa: | ugh |
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| [05:22:56] | fysa: | dd if=/dev/zero of=./test.dat bs=64k count=5000 -> 327680000 bytes (328 MB) copied, 75.5606 seconds, 4.3 MB/s |
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| [05:30:41] | defaultro: | Anduin/Cardoe? |
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| [05:30:56] | Cardoe: | yo |
| [05:31:02] | defaultro: | hey, looks like i know the issue now |
| [05:31:06] | Cardoe: | oh? |
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| [05:31:33] | defaultro: | if --post-file is pointing to a missing file, it will 500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR error |
| [05:31:46] | savage1: | hey anyone got this usb reciever based hauppauge pvr 150 |
| [05:31:48] | savage1: | the mce one |
| [05:31:49] | defaultro: | I was able to capture the /tmp/mythtv_post_****** |
| [05:31:54] | savage1: | says I need the mceusb2 driver |
| [05:32:03] | kormoc: | savage1, I have it, yes |
| [05:32:04] | savage1: | in lirc-reconfig.sh it only has mceusb as a choice |
| [05:32:09] | savage1: | man |
| [05:32:15] | savage1: | I've been at it for 3 hours |
| [05:32:20] | savage1: | wtf is the deal with this thing |
| [05:32:23] | kormoc: | mceusb2 is a valid choice |
| [05:32:32] | savage1: | yeah but it's not a choice for me |
| [05:32:34] | defaultro: | then i pointed it like this --post-file=/home/mythtv/mythtv_post_EHejas then I ran wget, no problems |
| [05:32:43] | kormoc: | savage1, did you compile the mceusb2 driver? |
| [05:32:46] | savage1: | if I do lirc-reconfig.sh I get the list, and mceusb is there but no 2 |
| [05:32:48] | savage1: | aha |
| [05:32:50] | savage1: | no I did not |
| [05:32:56] | savage1: | how would one do that |
| [05:32:57] | savage1: | hehe |
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| [05:33:08] | defaultro: | Cardoe, so I don't know why it get deleted so quickly before it gets used by wget |
| [05:33:15] | kormoc: | when you compile lirc, tell it to build mceusb2, it's a ./configure option |
| [05:33:46] | savage1: | I'm using knoppmyth tho |
| [05:33:52] | savage1: | should I apt-get the newest lirc maybe? |
| [05:34:05] | kormoc: | worth a try |
| [05:34:10] | kormoc: | or you might need to compile it yourself |
| [05:34:12] | defaultro: | Cardoe, this is what I did to capture the tmp file |
| [05:34:13] | defaultro: | #!/bin/sh |
| [05:34:13] | defaultro: | cp /tmp/mythtv_post* /home/mythtv |
| [05:34:13] | defaultro: | echo $* > /tmp/zap2it |
| [05:34:24] | defaultro: | so what is our fix then for that? |
| [05:34:47] | defaultro: | kormoc, it was your idea this afternoon to add the cp right? |
| [05:34:49] | Cardoe: | weird |
| [05:34:52] | kormoc: | defaultro, aye |
| [05:34:57] | defaultro: | hey |
| [05:35:07] | savage1: | kormoc: so my end result is to get my lirc-rebuild.sh to SHOW mceusb2 as an option? |
| [05:35:08] | kormoc: | defaultro, I'd add it to the ticket, and see if they just fix it |
| [05:35:14] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:35:25] | kormoc: | savage1, I'm not entirely sure, I don't use lirc-rebuild.sh |
| [05:35:30] | kormoc: | savage1, I just configured it by hand |
| [05:35:52] | kormoc: | defaultro, given the info you have, it should be treated as a valid bug |
| [05:35:56] | savage1: | maybe you could send me your lircd.conf file? |
| [05:35:58] | savage1: | ;) |
| [05:36:02] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:36:13] | kormoc: | savage1, http://kormoc.homelinux.org/lircd.conf |
| [05:36:25] | savage1: | is that the only file I'd need to mimic your setup? |
| [05:36:27] | kormoc: | savage1, and I have the lirc_mceusb2 driver loaded in the kernel |
| [05:36:33] | savage1: | ahhh |
| [05:36:42] | savage1: | so I need that driver in the kernel is the deal |
| [05:36:48] | kormoc: | savage1, http://kormoc.homelinux.org/lircrc <-- my mythtv specific settings |
| [05:36:49] | kormoc: | savage1, aye |
| [05:36:50] | savage1: | shit I wonder if apt-get'll find it |
| [05:37:46] | savage1: | crap |
| [05:37:47] | savage1: | alright brb |
| [05:37:53] | savage1: | only got one network cable at this end of the house rofl |
| [05:38:02] | savage1: | and no wireless |
| [05:38:05] | fysa: | is it normal for my swap usage to never go above 284K? :P |
| [05:38:13] | fysa: | out of 1.5gb, with only 512mb RAM? |
| [05:38:15] | kormoc: | fysa, if you have enough ram, aye |
| [05:38:23] | kormoc: | all depends on what you're running |
| [05:38:34] | fysa: | 339M cached |
| [05:38:41] | fysa: | linux will take away from that before using swap, right? |
| [05:38:45] | kormoc: | aye |
| [05:38:53] | fysa: | OK, cool, that's what I thought. |
| [05:39:23] | fysa: | does anyone want a couple 4-port SATA PCI cards? I'm almost ready to throw them and this board out the window. |
| [05:40:13] | kormoc: | heh, what are they? |
| [05:41:07] | fysa: | 3114s on a NF2 motherboard. on long sustained writes, I'm getting down to 5 MB/sec and I'm pretty sure sata_sil has been crapping out constantly and kicking good drives from my array. |
| [05:41:27] | kormoc: | icky |
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| [05:42:47] | defaultro: | I've added new info to the ticket |
| [05:43:05] | Joffray: | what ticket |
| [05:43:18] | defaultro: | Retrieve Lineup bug in mythtv-setup |
| [05:43:26] | defaultro: | 3. Video Sources |
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| [05:43:38] | defaultro: | ticket #2671 |
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| [05:44:31] | Joffray: | I can't replicate that problem |
| [05:44:42] | savage1: | hey I'm trying to read a dvd hehe |
| [05:44:51] | Joffray: | hey that's cool |
| [05:45:01] | savage1: | I gotta get decss eh? is that what causes the error that says I don't have permission |
| [05:45:10] | defaultro: | Joffray, is that message for me? |
| [05:45:52] | kormoc: | savage1, or you don't have permissions to access the device? |
| [05:45:57] | Joffray: | yes defaultro |
| [05:46:13] | savage1: | it's a default knoppmyth install... |
| [05:46:13] | defaultro: | i don't know why it behaves differently on your box |
| [05:46:19] | savage1: | the default user is mythtv right? |
| [05:46:32] | savage1: | how can I just make mythtv have all the rights |
| [05:46:33] | Joffray: | defaultro: chmod 777 the /tmp/ directory |
| [05:46:35] | Joffray: | see what happens |
| [05:46:35] | kormoc: | savage1, sure, does user mythtv have read rights to the dvd drive? |
| [05:46:38] | defaultro: | it is :) |
| [05:46:43] | savage1: | kormoc: I dunno |
| [05:46:51] | savage1: | is there a command to give it all the rights in the world |
| [05:46:54] | savage1: | doesn't matter to me |
| [05:47:00] | savage1: | this box isn't going to be on the net |
| [05:47:11] | kormoc: | if you *really* want to, chmod a+r /dev/* |
| [05:47:17] | kormoc: | but that's not really recommended... |
| [05:47:27] | kormoc: | (you'd need to do that as root anyway) |
| [05:47:32] | defaultro: | if you read the ticket again, I'm able to copy the mythtv_post* files to /home/mythtv which means that mythtv account is able to write to /tmp |
| [05:47:32] | savage1: | i hear you |
| [05:48:25] | savage1: | did it and got same error |
| [05:48:33] | savage1: | doesn't require a reboot or remount or anything like tht right? |
| [05:48:41] | kormoc: | nope |
| [05:48:55] | savage1: | what's this decss thing all about |
| [05:49:01] | savage1: | is that just for ripping or for playing too? |
| [05:49:09] | kormoc: | both |
| [05:49:25] | savage1: | k and obviously it won't come w/ knoppmyth since it's "illegal" |
| [05:49:32] | savage1: | so where would one get this "illegal" program ;) |
| [05:49:32] | kormoc: | indeed |
| [05:49:37] | savage1: | I assume apt-get wont do it rofl |
| [05:49:39] | defaultro: | i redid chmod 777 /tmp and I will test later if it changes anything |
| [05:49:41] | kormoc: | |
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| [05:49:58] | savage1: | working on it ;) |
| [05:49:59] | defaultro: | is there any difference between the two: drwxrwxrwx and drwxrwxrwxt |
| [05:50:25] | kormoc: | there's a t |
| [05:50:33] | defaultro: | sticky bit |
| [05:50:41] | kormoc: | indeed |
| [05:50:47] | defaultro: | sorry, i wasn't so clear |
| [05:50:50] | kormoc: | that's the difference :) |
| [05:50:56] | defaultro: | does it affect something |
| [05:51:25] | Joffray: | mythfilldatabase works fine right? |
| [05:51:25] | kormoc: | shouldn't |
| [05:51:37] | defaultro: | yes, mythfilldatabase works fine |
| [05:51:38] | savage1: | hey the newer mythtv uses xine righ? |
| [05:51:43] | kormoc: | no |
| [05:51:48] | savage1: | ? |
| [05:51:53] | kormoc: | myth uses's it's own player |
| [05:51:53] | Joffray: | mythtv uses whatever you specify |
| [05:52:01] | savage1: | shit man |
| [05:52:03] | defaultro: | the problem is, wget is sending an nonexisting mythtv_post file |
| [05:52:06] | kormoc: | mythvideo can use xine, or mythtv's internal player, or mplayer |
| [05:52:07] | savage1: | I found a decss but it only works w/ xine |
| [05:52:13] | savage1: | is xine installed? |
| [05:52:17] | Joffray: | defaultro: wget doesn't send anything |
| [05:52:24] | defaultro: | it does |
| [05:52:41] | kormoc: | Joffray, of course it does, how else does it post? |
| [05:52:50] | defaultro: | it is used by myth :) |
| [05:53:15] | Joffray: | wtf is in that file |
| [05:53:15] | defaultro: | parameters are prepared and is sent by wget |
| [05:53:25] | defaultro: | xml |
| [05:53:32] | defaultro: | look at the ticket again |
| [05:53:34] | kormoc: | Joffray, it's the data that is required to be posted to get the results back from zap2it |
| [05:53:39] | Joffray: | k |
| [05:53:51] | kormoc: | Joffray, it's purely how zap2it knows what to send back |
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| [05:54:41] | defaultro: | so the real question on the bug is, why does the tmp file gets deleted so quickly/early |
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| [05:55:02] | defaultro: | and why is it only happening to me |
| [05:55:11] | kormoc: | defaultro, you might want to check the permissions on the tmp file |
| [05:55:20] | defaultro: | checking |
| [05:55:25] | kormoc: | defaultro, it might be an issue that the tmp file exists, but is unreadable for some reason |
| [05:55:36] | defaultro: | -rw------- 1 root root 525 Nov 9 16:58 mythtv_post_EHejas |
| [05:55:36] | defaultro: | -rw------- 1 root root 525 Nov 9 16:58 mythtv_post_vLQOtD |
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| [05:55:49] | defaultro: | ah |
| [05:55:53] | defaultro: | seems that is the problem |
| [05:56:07] | defaultro: | good catch there kormoc |
| [05:56:12] | kormoc: | heh, thanks |
| [05:56:28] | defaultro: | i will chown /tmp to check if it changes anything |
| [05:56:40] | kormoc: | shouldn't |
| [05:56:49] | kormoc: | that's permissions from the file creator |
| [05:57:11] | defaultro: | i'll do it after the make on svn-fixes-0.20 |
| [05:57:37] | kormoc: | defaultro, as the user who is running the script |
| [05:57:40] | defaultro: | i almost lost hope, i pulled svn-fixes-0.20 :D |
| [05:57:44] | kormoc: | see what the umask is set to (run umask) |
| [05:58:09] | defaultro: | 0022 |
| [05:58:15] | kormoc: | that's what mine is |
| [05:58:21] | defaultro: | that would be 755 |
| [05:58:26] | kormoc: | aye |
| [05:58:28] | defaultro: | which i guess makes a problem |
| [05:58:34] | defaultro: | let me try something here |
| [05:59:50] | Joffray: | what user are you running mythtv-setup as? |
| [06:00:13] | Joffray: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . tadirect.cpp |
| [06:00:15] | Joffray: | line 533 |
| [06:00:30] | defaultro: | mythtv |
| [06:00:43] | Joffray: | run it as root |
| [06:00:48] | Joffray: | see what happens |
| [06:01:24] | kormoc: | even if root works, why would user mythtv be creating files owned by root? |
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| [06:01:27] | kormoc: | that seems... wrong |
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| [06:02:02] | defaultro: | wait, I was running it as root and it was failing. I forgot that |
| [06:02:26] | defaultro: | so it's not really permissions |
| [06:02:31] | defaultro: | I forgot, sorry |
| [06:02:42] | kormoc: | defaultro, in your shell script |
| [06:02:47] | kormoc: | try modifying it |
| [06:02:51] | defaultro: | so, the question is, why does the temp files gets deleted so quickly |
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| [06:02:57] | defaultro: | kormoc, ok, how |
| [06:03:02] | kormoc: | chmod a+r /tmp/mythtv_post* |
| [06:03:10] | kormoc: | wget $* |
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| [06:03:25] | defaultro: | the real wget? |
| [06:03:28] | kormoc: | mythtv_post being whatever the prefix is, I'm guessing that's the right one |
| [06:03:29] | kormoc: | aye |
| [06:03:40] | kormoc: | that way it will chmod to world readable, and run |
| [06:03:53] | kormoc: | if that works, it's a permission issue for sure, if it doesn't, there's something else wonky |
| [06:03:54] | defaultro: | i thought it should be o+r |
| [06:04:03] | Joffray: | DataDirectProcessor::~DataDirectProcessor() |
| [06:04:03] | Joffray: | 554 { |
| [06:04:03] | Joffray: | 555 unlink(tmpPostFile.ascii()); |
| [06:04:03] | kormoc: | a is all, o is just other |
| [06:04:05] | Joffray: | that's why |
| [06:04:11] | defaultro: | ah |
| [06:04:17] | defaultro: | what Joffray? |
| [06:04:24] | Joffray: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . tadirect.cpp |
| [06:04:31] | Joffray: | ~line 533 |
| [06:04:45] | defaultro: | ah, it's gets unlink before it gets used by wget? |
| [06:04:58] | Joffray: | I don't know |
| [06:05:04] | kormoc: | shouldn't be why |
| [06:05:09] | Cardoe: | defaultro: sorry.. |
| [06:05:13] | kormoc: | cause if that's the case, your shell script shouldn't be getting it |
| [06:05:20] | defaultro: | oh yeah |
| [06:05:23] | defaultro: | you're right |
| [06:05:23] | Cardoe: | I was working on D-Bus |
| [06:05:29] | kormoc: | it would have to be *really* split timing to cause that |
| [06:05:30] | defaultro: | Cardoe, no worries |
| [06:05:43] | defaultro: | kormoc and joff has been helping troubleshooting the issue |
| [06:05:46] | Cardoe: | cool |
| [06:05:49] | defaultro: | we're doing some more testing |
| [06:06:01] | kormoc: | Joffray, that's the deconstructor that unlinks, and the class isn't deconstructed till after the wget returns |
| [06:07:12] | kormoc: | the function that gets called is DDPost (line 808) |
| [06:07:48] | defaultro: | what do you think about this new script? |
| [06:07:53] | defaultro: | #!/bin/sh |
| [06:07:53] | defaultro: | chmod a+r /tmp/mythtv_post* |
| [06:07:53] | defaultro: | cp /tmp/mythtv_post* /home/mythtv |
| [06:07:53] | defaultro: | /usr/bin/wget.real $* |
| [06:07:53] | defaultro: | echo $* > /tmp/zap2it |
| [06:08:10] | kormoc: | sure, that should work fine |
| [06:08:13] | defaultro: | trying now |
| [06:08:20] | kormoc: | you might want to add something if this fails |
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| [06:09:08] | kormoc: | /usr/bin/wget.real $* > /tmp/wgetoutput |
| [06:09:15] | kormoc: | that way you can see wget's output |
| [06:09:31] | kormoc: | ooh, make that /usr/bin/wget.real --debug $* > /tmp/wgetoutput |
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| [06:09:39] | savage1: | hey guys |
| [06:09:46] | savage1: | i got decss in the there no problem |
| [06:09:49] | savage1: | apt-get DOES have it |
| [06:09:57] | savage1: | apt-get install libdvdcss2 |
| [06:09:58] | savage1: | ;) |
| [06:10:01] | savage1: | on knoppmyth |
| [06:10:07] | savage1: | but check this out, I'm in the rip dvd menu |
| [06:10:19] | savage1: | I give it a name, tell it i want good quality, and then how do I actually start the rip? |
| [06:10:31] | savage1: | I see the VIEW button but I guess that's just to see what the quality will be like? |
| [06:10:50] | savage1: | getting it set up is one thing but then learning to use it is another, but so far this seems pretty bad ass |
| [06:10:59] | Joffray: | lemme see |
| [06:11:00] | Joffray: | 1 sec |
| [06:11:18] | savage1: | u got that right arrow on the bottom |
| [06:12:49] | defaultro: | huh |
| [06:12:51] | defaultro: | chmod: changing permissions of `/tmp/mythtv_post_KvcPzr': Operation not permitted |
| [06:12:58] | Joffray: | 1 sec I gotta throw a dvd in my backend |
| [06:13:05] | savage1: | hehe |
| [06:13:07] | savage1: | thanks joffray |
| [06:13:12] | kormoc: | defaultro, running as root? |
| [06:13:14] | defaultro: | but look, drwxrwxrwx 7 mythtv mythtv 4096 Nov 10 00:12 tmp |
| [06:13:20] | defaultro: | nope, running as mythtv |
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| [06:13:36] | kormoc: | defaultro, toss in a ls -l /tmp/mythtv_post* > file |
| [06:13:40] | kormoc: | before the chmod |
| [06:13:45] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:13:50] | kormoc: | see exactly what it's being created with |
| [06:14:11] | mactenchi: | anyone else having their mythtvbackend eat up all the cpu? |
| [06:14:19] | mactenchi: | even when nothing's recording? |
| [06:14:30] | kormoc: | not I |
| [06:14:53] | Cardoe: | I hate how they can't use "this->" int he code |
| [06:14:55] | Cardoe: | to make it easier |
| [06:15:05] | kormoc: | hrm? |
| [06:15:09] | defaultro: | -rw------- 1 root mythtv 525 Nov 10 00:14 /tmp/mythtv_post_DcZJVc |
| [06:15:14] | defaultro: | that's why |
| [06:15:21] | kormoc: | defaultro, that's really wrong |
| [06:15:26] | defaultro: | i know |
| [06:15:28] | kormoc: | user mythtv shouldn't be able to create that file... |
| [06:15:49] | defaultro: | is it because mythtv-setup has setuid bit |
| [06:15:50] | defaultro: | ? |
| [06:15:50] | kormoc: | remember to update the ticket with all this |
| [06:15:57] | kormoc: | defaultro, yes, very likely actually |
| [06:16:04] | kormoc: | defaultro, that would cause it |
| [06:16:10] | defaultro: | is it a bug or my fault? |
| [06:16:28] | kormoc: | try removing the suid bit and see if it works |
| [06:16:31] | defaultro: | k |
| [06:16:34] | kormoc: | it's likely your fault, or the distro's fault |
| [06:16:57] | kormoc: | tho, I'd still sudgest in the ticket (if I was you) to default give group read permissions on the temp file |
| [06:17:08] | Cardoe: | defaultro: this is on Gentoo? |
| [06:17:26] | defaultro: | FC3 |
| [06:17:37] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [06:17:53] | Cardoe: | if it's got setuid, kormoc |
| [06:17:58] | Cardoe: | it'll be able to read that file |
| [06:18:14] | kormoc: | Cardoe, wget, which it spawns can't, and that's the problem |
| [06:18:17] | defaultro: | it's working now :) it populated the DD lineup |
| [06:18:22] | kormoc: | wget is getting spawned as user mythtv |
| [06:18:25] | Cardoe: | kormoc: true |
| [06:18:37] | Cardoe: | kormoc: but that code does have some nasty hackary |
| [06:18:41] | Cardoe: | besides the point |
| [06:18:48] | Cardoe: | that's exactly what his issue is |
| [06:18:49] | Cardoe: | the setuid |
| [06:19:05] | defaultro: | what i did is chown mythtv:mythtv /usr/local/bin/myth* which took out all the setuid bits |
| [06:19:07] | kormoc: | defaultro, yeah, I'd update the ticket, with the results, and sudgest giving group read permissions to the tmp files would fix suid bit issues and not be much more insecure |
| [06:19:36] | defaultro: | they're going to close the ticket right? |
| [06:19:53] | kormoc: | likely, yeah |
| [06:19:56] | defaultro: | k |
| [06:20:02] | kormoc: | but least someone will read and think bout it |
| [06:20:06] | defaultro: | k |
| [06:20:10] | defaultro: | doing it now |
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| [06:21:21] | savage1: | joffray: gotta hit 0 |
| [06:21:24] | savage1: | that's what I was missing |
| [06:21:25] | mchou: | anyone us an UPS here? |
| [06:21:32] | savage1: | I don't have a working remote so that's that |
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| [06:21:56] | EnterUserName: | hi all |
| [06:22:02] | EnterUserName: | How do i enable picture controls for xv |
| [06:22:05] | mchou: | just wondering what's a reasonable size to get w/o overkill |
| [06:22:06] | EnterUserName: | my screen is a bit dark |
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| [06:22:34] | EnterUserName: | i tried to enable it in mythtv but i try to change it and it goes to -1 |
| [06:22:47] | EnterUserName: | how do i enable it inthe x server |
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| [06:25:12] | defaultro: | done |
| [06:26:20] | defaultro: | kormoc, thank you very much |
| [06:26:28] | kormoc: | You're welcome, glad to help |
| [06:26:32] | defaultro: | ;) |
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| [06:27:18] | EnterUserName: | Does anyone have an nvidia card who knows how to enable the picture cards in x windows |
| [06:27:29] | kormoc: | picture cards? |
| [06:28:11] | EnterUserName: | erk picture controls |
| [06:28:18] | EnterUserName: | changing brightness and colors and contrast |
| [06:28:18] | Joffray: | savage1 |
| [06:28:20] | Joffray: | it even says |
| [06:28:26] | Joffray: | 0 Process Selected Title |
| [06:28:32] | EnterUserName: | savage1? |
| [06:28:38] | Joffray: | yes |
| [06:28:40] | Joffray: | savage1 |
| [06:28:43] | EnterUserName: | i enable that/ |
| [06:28:44] | EnterUserName: | :) |
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| [06:28:56] | Joffray: | savage1 is a user |
| [06:28:58] | kormoc: | shouldn't need to enable anything if your card supports it |
| [06:29:01] | EnterUserName: | oh |
| [06:29:09] | EnterUserName: | odd i have XV enabled |
| [06:29:17] | Joffray: | do you mean xvmc ? |
| [06:29:23] | EnterUserName: | no i have XV enabled |
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| [06:29:27] | reeddler: | hi |
| [06:29:28] | kormoc: | you could just use xgamma to set the brightness |
| [06:29:52] | EnterUserName: | is there a howto on how to enable xvmc |
| [06:30:00] | reeddler: | can someone tell me where the internal channel switcher is? in which file? |
| [06:30:18] | kormoc: | it should jsut work if you are using the nvidia drivers |
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| [06:30:26] | EnterUserName: | kormoc: suse doesnt come with xvmc |
| [06:30:37] | EnterUserName: | and i compiled mythtv from scratch i dont know which libraries i need |
| [06:30:50] | kormoc: | reeddler, it uses the V4L for most cards, which is in the linux kernel source |
| [06:30:52] | EnterUserName: | xgamma only does color...not brightness |
| [06:31:00] | kormoc: | xgamma does brightness |
| [06:31:11] | EnterUserName: | hmm. gime me an example? |
| [06:31:16] | kormoc: | xgamma -gamma 2 |
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| [06:31:45] | kormoc: | it's not quite the same, but might work |
| [06:31:50] | EnterUserName: | oh |
| [06:31:58] | EnterUserName: | will xvmc allow me to do it |
| [06:32:02] | EnterUserName: | if i am able to get it working? |
| [06:32:12] | kormoc: | shouldn't change it, no |
| [06:32:13] | reeddler: | kormoc... ok... let me then step back a few lines of code... which file has the logic to change the channel before recording it (via firewire) |
| [06:32:30] | reeddler: | cuz what's happening to me is it starts recording before the channel is switched |
| [06:32:34] | reeddler: | ... resulting in a gap |
| [06:32:43] | kormoc: | reeddler, you might want to go to #mythtv and talk with the developers |
| [06:32:48] | reeddler: | k thnx |
| [06:33:15] | EnterUserName: | so picture controls wont work with xvmc eitehr if it doesnt wotrk with xv/ |
| [06:33:22] | kormoc: | aye |
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| [06:33:44] | defaultro: | ok, i have another minor issue :D hehehe |
| [06:33:46] | kormoc: | XvMC is just extensions to XV |
| [06:34:18] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [06:34:37] | EnterUserName: | sucks why did nvidia not use picture controls anymore.. |
| [06:34:45] | EnterUserName: | i think the gamma helped it |
| [06:34:49] | EnterUserName: | i did 1 instead |
| [06:34:52] | kormoc: | nvidia does |
| [06:35:12] | kormoc: | my 5200, 5800, 6200, and 6800 all has Xv picture controls |
| [06:35:21] | EnterUserName: | well it goes from 50 % to -1 when i try to change it |
| [06:35:25] | EnterUserName: | i have an nvidia 7300 GT |
| [06:35:31] | kormoc: | what driver version? |
| [06:35:54] | EnterUserName: | Dave's On Sale Again. Everythings Zen :(... Mistakes..mistakes... |
| [06:35:56] | EnterUserName: | erk |
| [06:36:02] | EnterUserName: | NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64–1.0-8776-pkg2.run |
| [06:36:14] | EnterUserName: | it also doesnt work when i hit ctrl alt f1 but thats a seperate issue :) |
| [06:36:14] | kormoc: | try updating to the beta driver? |
| [06:36:21] | defaultro: | I have a COMCAST digital entry in zap2it. It's for my fusion hdtv card. Last night I added firewire. I added a new zip so that I can pull same channels. However, mythfilldatabase was telling that it will not add channels. I think because they are the same. What is the fix for this? Sourceid 5 is the firewire. http://pastebin.ca/244827 |
| [06:36:23] | EnterUserName: | ok let me try find it off nvidias site? |
| [06:37:00] | kormoc: | http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9629.html |
| [06:37:04] | EnterUserName: | thanx |
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| [06:40:03] | adante: | so.. anybody know of a semi-solid myth revision to use? |
| [06:42:14] | defaultro: | it's ok folks, I found out that I can select the capture card I want in "select input" |
| [06:44:47] | Joffray: | adante: 0.20-fixes branc |
| [06:44:49] | Joffray: | branch |
| [06:44:51] | EnterUserName: | nvidia is slow!! |
| [06:44:52] | EnterUserName: | : |
| [06:45:07] | kormoc: | slow? |
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| [06:46:24] | EnterUserName: | i jsut clicked on a link and its not doign anything lol :) |
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| [06:48:26] | seeking: | excuse me, but I was wondering if this is the right place to ask some questions regarding implamenting a new codec into MythTV. |
| [06:49:22] | kormoc: | well, #mythtv is where the developers hang out, but let's just say, it's non-trivial to add new codecs, and unless you're willing to do the work, it's best to not disturb them |
| [06:50:18] | sphery: | seeking: Oh, and MythTV uses ffmpeg, so you'll need to convince the ffmpeg developers to add it and then it will work in MythTV's player. |
| [06:51:09] | seeking: | Oh, I've looked over some of the code already. |
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| [06:51:17] | seeking: | and I am wiling to do the work as you say |
| [06:51:47] | seeking: | basically I'm looking to add a third, lossless (based on the Lagarith source) component to either NuppelVideo or the transcoder |
| [06:52:23] | kormoc: | yeah, if you're serrious, #mythtv is the place to talk more bout it |
| [06:52:35] | seeking: | ok. thanks for your time |
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| [07:07:01] | clop: | hi, when i try to run "modprobe ivtv_fb", my system totally hangs. is there a log it might have written? |
| [07:07:20] | defaultro: | what's wrong guys. I set a recording and I told to use PREFER INPUT DCT2000. However, it is still using my fusion tuner card. |
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| [07:08:07] | Joffray: | defaultro: lemme guess, duplicate channel numbers |
| [07:08:20] | defaultro: | no, i only have single channel. |
| [07:08:33] | defaultro: | http://pastebin.ca/244827 |
| [07:08:49] | defaultro: | i want to record the same channels but different capture card |
| [07:09:13] | defaultro: | mythfilldatabase didn't add it because it already exists |
| [07:09:49] | defaultro: | look, http://restricted.dyndns.org/zap2it.gif |
| [07:10:11] | defaultro: | the new one is Comcast – Schaumburg |
| [07:10:16] | sphery: | defaultro: There's a difference between "prefer input" and "use input" (and there's no "use input" in Myth) |
| [07:10:32] | defaultro: | oh |
| [07:10:40] | defaultro: | so how do I fix my issue? |
| [07:10:50] | sphery: | Also, to allow mythfilldatabase to add new channels to a digital source, you must use "--do-channel-updates" |
| [07:10:53] | defaultro: | looks like I may need to add the channels but how |
| [07:11:14] | defaultro: | will i have duplicates then? |
| [07:11:18] | sphery: | But, generally you don't want to do that because you actually should use the channel scanner to scan for channels (on digital sources, but never on analog sources) |
| [07:11:22] | defaultro: | because they're the same channels |
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| [07:11:36] | defaultro: | i don't need because i'm using 6200ch |
| [07:11:47] | defaultro: | it'[s not QAM256 |
| [07:11:49] | defaultro: | it's firewire |
| [07:11:58] | sphery: | Don't know how to set up firewire |
| [07:12:04] | defaultro: | it's already setup |
| [07:12:10] | defaultro: | only missing are the channels |
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| [07:12:20] | sphery: | But, I know it won't set them up automatically because they're often encrypted. |
| [07:12:23] | defaultro: | what does --do-channel-updates |
| [07:12:25] | sphery: | So you have to tell it to. |
| [07:12:38] | defaultro: | it's not ecnrypted, i'm able to record |
| [07:12:45] | sphery: | --do-channel-updates says to sync your video source with your DataDirect lineup |
| [07:12:56] | defaultro: | i'll try that now along with --sourceid 5 |
| [07:12:58] | sphery: | Right. So you have to tell Myth it's OK to add those channels. |
| [07:13:08] | defaultro: | k |
| [07:13:12] | sphery: | Myth won't do it automatically because adding an encrypted channel is dangerous. |
| [07:13:32] | sphery: | Note, though, that you /must/ have different video sources for your analog and digital inputs |
| [07:13:41] | defaultro: | yes, i do have them all :) |
| [07:13:43] | sphery: | If you're using both |
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| [07:14:03] | sphery: | have them all? |
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| [07:14:34] | defaultro: | no, just the input cards |
| [07:14:37] | defaultro: | not the channels |
| [07:14:53] | reeddler: | how do I delete a recording group... the manual says press "D" when in frontend... but doesnt work for me |
| [07:14:58] | defaultro: | what i really want to happen is to grab the channels i chose in zap2it for my firewire |
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| [07:15:15] | sphery: | that's what --do-channel-updates does |
| [07:15:17] | defaultro: | i think, that's the issue why it is still using fusion capture card |
| [07:15:21] | defaultro: | i ran it |
| [07:15:23] | sphery: | But, use the --sourceid, too/ |
| [07:15:24] | defaultro: | let's see |
| [07:15:28] | defaultro: | yes |
| [07:16:34] | sphery: | Also, if you want to control which capture card is used (i.e. digital versus analog), you can specify different callsigns for your digital channels than for your analog channels and use "this channel" recording rules. |
| [07:16:41] | defaultro: | looks like i have 2 entries now :D |
| [07:16:55] | defaultro: | i will try recording now ;) |
| [07:17:15] | sphery: | If you just want something like using your PVR-150 instead of the PVR-250, you should delete the capture cards and add them again in the order of preference. |
| [07:18:18] | defaultro: | it's hard to tell which one is which because they're all the same channel names ;) |
| [07:18:33] | defaultro: | thanks for sourceid |
| [07:18:34] | sphery: | Channel names can be changed without consequence |
| [07:18:55] | sphery: | Channel callsigns tell Myth that channels are the same (i.e. for "this channel" rules) |
| [07:19:31] | pab_: | um....is there some place I can still get the .19 version of the frontend (preferably a .deb).....at least until I finish backing up the server? |
| [07:19:46] | defaultro: | update channels set name=name+' FW' where sourceid=5; |
| [07:19:54] | defaultro: | looks like that's going to work |
| [07:20:01] | defaultro: | or should I update callsign? |
| [07:20:03] | sphery: | So, if you want WGN to be just one channel on your system, set the callsign = "WGN" on analog and digital sources. |
| [07:20:23] | defaultro: | so I should update callsign field instead? |
| [07:20:38] | sphery: | If you want them treated independently--so you can use "this channel" rules to determine whether to record on digital versus analog, call one "WGN" and one "WGN-DT" or something. |
| [07:21:00] | defaultro: | in callsign? |
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| [07:22:06] | sphery: | Then, assuming you want Lost in HDTV, but you'll settle for SDTV in the event no digital source is available, create a high-priority "this channel" rule for "ABC-DT" and a lower-priority "all channels" rule. |
| [07:22:29] | sphery: | Update callsign to say whether to treat them as the same or different channels for the purpose of scheduling. |
| [07:22:45] | sphery: | Am I making any sense (it's 2:22am here) |
| [07:22:52] | defaultro: | :D |
| [07:23:13] | reeddler: | sphery: where'r u at? |
| [07:23:26] | defaultro: | what is the concat symbol for mysql |
| [07:23:30] | defaultro: | + doesn't work |
| [07:24:08] | sphery: | reeddler: Melbourne, FL |
| [07:24:24] | defaultro: | this worked, concat(NAME,'FW') :D |
| [07:24:25] | billvortex: | defaultro, CONCAT("string", "string") |
| [07:25:13] | defaultro: | see above |
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| [07:25:14] | defaultro: | :D |
| [07:25:22] | defaultro: | thanks |
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| [07:31:38] | ** RyeBrye just finished patching the screenshot generation for MythGame – and made it sweet... ** | |
| [07:32:20] | RyeBrye: | I added a progress bar and some error handling- plus the ability to decide whether or not to overwrite existing screenshots into a mythgame patch I was working on today |
| [07:32:33] | RyeBrye: | It's very slick :) |
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| [07:36:34] | reeddler: | how do I delete a recording group... the manual says press "D" when in frontend... but doesnt work for me |
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| [07:38:54] | mchou: | kormoc: stop hacking |
| [07:39:12] | mchou: | or should I say cracking..... |
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| [07:40:47] | defaultro: | ok folks, I have the channels now which are mapped to the firewire card. I go to Manage recording, program guide and select that channel and record it now, nothing happens. What could have I missed? |
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| [08:22:04] | alan|home: | hi all |
| [08:22:30] | Hoxzer: | hi all |
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| [08:22:45] | alan|home: | i can't access my mythweb page. it says the acess is forbidden... |
| [08:22:52] | Hoxzer: | :D can you believe what happened when I about to go to school |
| [08:22:53] | alan|home: | does anyone knows why ? |
| [08:23:05] | Hoxzer: | my belt's buckle bropke |
| [08:23:08] | alan|home: | know* |
| [08:23:11] | Hoxzer: | it is like allumine |
| [08:23:23] | Hoxzer: | aluminium |
| [08:23:32] | ** juski laughs as Hoxzer's pants fall down ** | |
| [08:23:37] | alan|home: | Hoxzer: ^^ |
| [08:23:43] | juski: | alan|home: check your .htaccess file |
| [08:23:49] | alan|home: | Hoxzer: don't go and catch the flue |
| [08:23:56] | alan|home: | juski: ok |
| [08:24:14] | Hoxzer: | alan|home: well, I got another buckle jsut took a while to find it so I have to skip a lesson |
| [08:24:18] | ** juski passes Hoxzer a cat5 cable he can use as a belt temporarily ** | |
| [08:24:23] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [08:26:18] | alan|home: | juski: do you know the exact name of the file i'm looking for ? |
| [08:26:36] | alan|home: | (linux system) |
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| [08:27:03] | alan|home: | (well... not sure there is a backend for any other system anyway...) |
| [08:27:06] | juski: | alan|home: .htaccess |
| [08:27:19] | alan|home: | juski: locate doesn't find it... |
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| [08:28:56] | juski: | alan|home: try in /var/www |
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| [08:29:05] | juski: | it might be in a subdir down that way |
| [08:29:28] | juski: | you'll need to use ls -l to find it |
| [08:29:53] | alan|home: | juski: :/ |
| [08:29:56] | alan|home: | find /var | grep htaccess |
| [08:29:56] | juski: | whhops ls -al |
| [08:30:01] | alan|home: | -> nothing |
| [08:30:11] | juski: | it's hidden |
| [08:30:20] | juski: | any file beginning with a . is hidden |
| [08:30:28] | juski: | which distro are you running? |
| [08:30:34] | alan|home: | mandriva 2007 |
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| [08:30:55] | alan|home: | and i know about hidden files... thanks anyway |
| [08:31:06] | juski: | ugh |
| [08:31:27] | juski: | so mythweb will be wherever mandriva sees fit to put webpages |
| [08:31:38] | juski: | it's normally somewhere like /var/www |
| [08:31:39] | scx: | !hardware |
| [08:31:56] | quicksil1er: | it might not be using htaccess |
| [08:32:07] | quicksil1er: | it might just have the privs set up in one of the main conf files for the web server |
| [08:32:16] | scx: | is there a list of tested tv cards with MythTV ? |
| [08:32:22] | juski: | I'm not usually one to diss distros but mandriva is a PoS |
| [08:32:34] | juski: | scx: try the wiki |
| [08:32:34] | alan|home: | quicksil1er: ok, i'll ask on #mandriva |
| [08:32:52] | quicksil1er: | alan|home: or look in /etc/apache or /etc/apache2 |
| [08:33:01] | alan|home: | quicksil1er: ok |
| [08:33:10] | alan|home: | juski: PoS ? |
| [08:34:01] | juski: | piece of shit |
| [08:34:05] | scx: | juski: I tried the wki.org :s |
| [08:34:15] | juski: | scx: wiki.mythtv.org |
| [08:34:17] | alan|home: | juski: ha... ok. |
| [08:34:27] | scx: | juski: in this one I can see the info http://mythtv.org/wiki/ |
| [08:34:30] | scx: | thanks |
| [08:34:40] | scx: | (too late) |
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| [08:37:58] | alan|home: | juski: ok, there is no .htaccess file by default on mandriva. |
| [08:38:15] | juski: | so they've done it some other way |
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| [08:38:18] | alan|home: | soooo, any idea why i can't acess my mythweb page ? |
| [08:38:39] | juski: | the mythweb dir should be in there somewhere though – that HAS an .htaccess file |
| [08:40:37] | Hoxzer: | lol, I just heard about some power supply modification well, this guy put a lump of sugar in the middle of the wires to lower fan speed :P |
| [08:40:47] | Hoxzer: | one of those modifcations that I might not try |
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| [08:42:55] | juski: | Hoxzer: that guy should try putting an IEC mains lead in his mouth & switching the power on |
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| [08:44:17] | Hoxzer: | ouch :/ |
| [08:47:51] | Joffray: | alanhome: chmod 777 your mythweb directory |
| [08:52:03] | juski: | that's not a good idea |
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| [08:52:47] | juski: | make sure the data dir within the mythweb dir is writable by the user apache runs as |
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| [08:55:29] | alan|home: | same result if the browser is launched by root |
| [08:55:32] | ** juski laughs. seems the guy at work who has a tivo has wrong guide data for next tuesday. well it might be right, but that'd make 3 independant listings sources wrong too ** | |
| [08:55:36] | Neeesat25: | Juski are you around? |
| [08:55:46] | juski: | no I'm not around |
| [08:55:49] | juski: | ;) |
| [08:55:51] | Neeesat25: | Ok |
| [08:55:57] | juski: | sup? |
| [08:56:17] | Neeesat25: | Juski I will be in London next week. Any good shop for Mythtv Equipment? |
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| [08:56:48] | juski: | no idea. tottenham court road has lots of computer & tech shops |
| [08:57:03] | ** juski does not (and never will) live in London ** | |
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| [08:57:18] | Neeesat25: | Ah Tottenham. Where about is Tottenham? |
| [08:57:23] | Neeesat25: | Near Oxford? |
| [08:57:36] | juski: | no Tottenham Court road IN London |
| [08:58:01] | Neeesat25: | I have heared about Insign shop has some cool Cases for htpc's |
| [08:58:06] | juski: | it has its own tube station and is about 5 mins walk from Euston station |
| [08:58:23] | Neeesat25: | Oh Thanks |
| [08:58:34] | Neeesat25: | I make a visit |
| [08:58:53] | juski: | be careful though – there are a lot of shops that rip people off! |
| [08:59:05] | Neeesat25: | ok Thanks |
| [08:59:24] | juski: | and another word of advice – never let your credit card out of your site in those shops! |
| [08:59:42] | juski: | _seriously_ |
| [08:59:48] | Neeesat25: | I know the prices of such things. I will compair them with our locals |
| [08:59:55] | Neeesat25: | Oh Ok Thanks |
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| [09:02:09] | juski: | s/site/sight |
| [09:02:30] | juski: | bloody hell.. not like me to make a mistake like that :-| |
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| [09:48:28] | buu: | Ok, so, is there documentation someplace about making X display on a tv? |
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| [09:52:43] | juski: | no, it's completely undocumented. everyone who's ever succeeded in doing it managed it only by a huge fluke. not even google has any answers to the question |
| [09:53:31] | juski: | of course you could always tryreading the nvidia driver documentation if you have a nvidia card, or the ATI driver docus if you have an ATI card |
| [09:53:36] | juski: | or the mythtv wiki... |
| [09:54:24] | juski: | http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox . . . linux+tv+out |
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| [09:58:33] | buu: | Heh, for some reason all I could think of to search for was 'x11 tv'. I think that's a sign I need slepe. |
| [10:00:08] | juski: | setting up mythboxen at 3am is never a good idea |
| [10:00:25] | juski: | hey is that why so many folks have problems? they're _asleep_ ?! |
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| [10:13:51] | Dagmar: | No, that's heavy metals in the water |
| [10:14:40] | Dagmar: | ..although I can't really rule out inbreeding or Down's Syndrome |
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| [10:34:50] | ** juski is glad he's not got verizon as his ISP :) ** | |
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| [12:36:31] | alenax: | hi all :) |
| [12:37:17] | alenax: | before i get into the mailing list and stuff could i ask a silly question that you probably have answer hundred of times? |
| [12:37:29] | alenax: | what is the best distro for Mythtv? |
| [12:38:44] | alenax: | i have installed an Edgy Ubuntu but well i do not mind any other distro if that makes the install and Mythtv work smoother |
| [12:38:52] | Dagmar: | Whichever one you know how to work and compile things (correctly) on. |
| [12:39:07] | alenax: | debian based works ok for me |
| [12:39:20] | alenax: | hi Dagmar :) |
| [12:40:34] | alenax: | though i have not find much documentation for Edgy or ubuntu |
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| [12:46:40] | ** alenax is going to sit around on this channel while she compiles this new toy ** | |
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| [13:42:47] | hhhjr: | hello could someone please help me with installing ivtv drivers? |
| [13:43:13] | Russ85: | quick question. if i want to watch live tv while recording another show, do i have to have two capture cards? |
| [13:43:53] | hhhjr: | Analog tv or digital? |
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| [13:44:47] | hhhjr: | I belive with dvb you can record more than 1 channel if they are on the same transponder but I may be wrong |
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| [13:59:20] | juski: | hhhjr: you can't record more than one show at the same tie with just one card (yet) |
| [14:00:07] | juski: | so Russ85 the answer is – you need at least two tuners |
| [14:01:58] | juski: | why you thought you might not need two tuners to watch something & record something different at the same time, is beyond my comprehension though ;) |
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| [14:12:46] | juski: | hmm friday. long lunches. sleepy |
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| [14:25:25] | scopeuk: | hi |
| [14:25:36] | Chicago: | hi |
| [14:30:45] | Defend: | i cant get my converting to xvid to come out clean it looks blocky when i got full screen :/ anyone mind looking at my script? |
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| [14:31:45] | Dagmar: | Have you checked what you're telling it against the documentation yet? |
| [14:34:59] | ** juski does a spot of head drilling to relieve the boredom ** | |
| [14:35:45] | Merlin83b: | Juski|Trepanned |
| [14:37:15] | juski: | although I saw a trick I could do with a firework on the BBC website yesterday... |
| [14:37:42] | Merlin83b: | lol |
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| [14:37:48] | Merlin83b: | Best not to even think about that one. |
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| [14:39:16] | hhhjr_: | any body able to help a newbie install ivtv drivers? please |
| [14:40:42] | ** r3z points to the end of the topic for hhhjr_ ** | |
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| [14:47:10] | RyeBrye: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1810 if anyone is using MythGame and the SVN source – I posted a patch that makes automatic generation of screenshots a piece of cake! (updated previous patch with nice features) |
| [14:49:01] | GreyFoxx: | Just an FYI, there are screenshot "packs" out there you can download for 90% of the games out there |
| [14:49:46] | juski: | speaking of screenshots... |
| [14:50:04] | GreyFoxx: | Well, I should say I've seen them for non xmame stuff. I didn't specifically notice mame screenshots but I'd be darn suprised if they didn't exist |
| [14:50:05] | RyeBrye: | Yeah – but the "packs" often have wrong names depending on where you got your roms from |
| [14:50:18] | RyeBrye: | They do exist, but renaming them is a pain in the rear |
| [14:50:22] | GreyFoxx: | RyeBrye: that's why people use the goodutils to rename their roms to the known names |
| [14:50:30] | RyeBrye: | hmm |
| [14:50:32] | GreyFoxx: | and those match the screenshot names |
| [14:50:37] | juski: | how many roms can you legally own? |
| [14:50:53] | opello: | as many as you have carts for :) |
| [14:51:00] | RyeBrye: | Juski – lots, if you have an old box of NES games lying around you bought at a garage sale |
| [14:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | juski: I'm sure it's a pretty small amount over all :) |
| [14:52:05] | RyeBrye: | how many mame roms you can legally own is probably a different story |
| [14:52:15] | RyeBrye: | (unless you bought out an old arcade or something) |
| [14:53:36] | RyeBrye: | GreyFoxx – the other tweak I'm going to add into the MythGame screenshot generation is flagging any rom that exits before it loads (i.e. bad roms) and let the user remove them from the system... which would make it convenient to eliminate some of the junk roms from a directory that simple scanning wont do |
| [14:54:02] | RyeBrye: | You know... for all those "bad roms" that you legally own too |
| [14:54:55] | hhhjr_: | ok I need some more help. I am trying to install the ivtv drivers and now this is the command I am trying to use. make && makeinstall and this is what I get back make -C/lib/modules/2.6.17–10 server/build M=/home/hhhjr/ivtv-0.7/driver modules make: Entering a unknown directory make: ***/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-server/build: no such file or directory. Stop. make[1]:***[all] Error 2 |
| [14:55:23] | opello: | RyeBrye: sometimes the reader doesn't work right :) |
| [14:55:34] | hhhjr_: | rz3 I am using that install guide and the above is what comes out of it |
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| [14:56:09] | juski: | you need the kernel headers then |
| [14:56:10] | hhhjr_: | sorry r3z |
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| [14:57:06] | juski: | I haven't got the patience for this today |
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| [14:58:03] | hhhjr_: | I think I have succesfully installed mythtv but I cannot get my pvr500 or my TT dvb card to install |
| [14:58:25] | Dagmar: | So, have you read www.ivtvdriver.org? |
| [14:58:44] | Dagmar: | ...and I *strongly* recommend starting with just the one PVR500 card |
| [14:58:51] | hhhjr_: | yes that is what I have printed out in my hand |
| [14:59:14] | hhhjr_: | yes that is what I am trying to get running |
| [14:59:27] | Dagmar: | I'm going to try not to think about why you bothered to print out a website |
| [14:59:35] | Dagmar: | Have you done it's _troubleshooting_ steps? |
| [14:59:50] | hhhjr_: | no I printed out the install guide |
| [15:00:16] | GreyFoxx: | RyeBrye: Can you reformat your patch to use 4 space padding and not tabs? |
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| [15:00:33] | Dagmar: | What kind of pervert uses 4-space tabs?? |
| [15:00:34] | hhhjr_: | when I try use the make && make install I get into trouble |
| [15:00:36] | qu0zl: | hhhjr_, http://www.willmer.com/kb/category/projects/ |
| [15:00:50] | qu0zl: | a google for the error and +ivtv throws up that page that tells you how to fix the error |
| [15:01:19] | hhhjr_: | ok thanks I'll try that thank you |
| [15:01:20] | qu0zl: | the page is even correct from my own experiences with it. The build directory either comes from the kernel headers or the kernel source package. That page tells you how to get it |
| [15:01:24] | qu0zl: | good luck |
| [15:01:47] | Dagmar: | It comes from the symlink in /lib/modules/`uname -r` |
| [15:02:18] | qu0zl: | but the contents come from the headers package or the source package i believe |
| [15:03:16] | RyeBrye: | GreyFoxx – sorry, yeah, I can do that |
| [15:03:23] | ** RyeBrye is new to patches ** | |
| [15:03:53] | RyeBrye: | GreyFoxx – is there an easy command line util to do that? |
| [15:04:18] | GreyFoxx: | hmmmm I imagine awk/sed could do it |
| [15:04:40] | GreyFoxx: | but I've never done it. I just configure ViM to use 4 spaces when I hit tab :) |
| [15:04:56] | Dagmar: | sed -i -e 's/ / /g;' |
| [15:05:13] | ** Dagmar makes a jerking motion in the air. ** | |
| [15:05:53] | GreyFoxx: | better than in your pants I suppose |
| [15:05:57] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
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| [15:06:13] | ** GreyFoxx remembers there could be kidlets present :) ** | |
| [15:07:48] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : -v jams | |
| [15:08:01] | jams: | hi all |
| [15:08:09] | GreyFoxx: | Howdy |
| [15:08:37] | jams: | any progress on the school project? |
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| [15:09:15] | GreyFoxx: | Yup, having a meeting next week with a few of them to give them a small demo and get exact details on what they want/howmany rooms and such. |
| [15:09:32] | jams: | good to hear |
| [15:09:47] | GreyFoxx: | I've been told each class has 2 ethernet lines back to a central server room, gigabit switch etc |
| [15:10:14] | jams: | hopefully thats true |
| [15:10:20] | GreyFoxx: | So if anything, bandwidth wont be a problem |
| [15:10:31] | GreyFoxx: | network bandwidth that is |
| [15:10:37] | jams: | few years back I worked with schools, an often stories like that were just untrue. |
| [15:10:43] | GreyFoxx: | Heh |
| [15:11:27] | GreyFoxx: | A coworker of mine use to run a wiring company and wired a few of the schools these guys have built and he said that's what he ran (the 2 lines) to each room. IT could be elcheapo gigabit switches though which I will find out |
| [15:12:36] | jams: | you know, if this goes well I might bring up the topic with my old job |
| [15:13:09] | jams: | they were purcahsed by edison schools |
| [15:13:25] | GreyFoxx: | Cool :) |
| [15:13:33] | jams: | and the operations manager used to ask me about myth once a week |
| [15:13:49] | jams: | he was setting up a box in his house |
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| [15:14:09] | GreyFoxx: | cool stuff |
| [15:14:21] | jams: | I know edison has the infrastructure to support it |
| [15:14:31] | GreyFoxx: | I hope I get the chance to set it up, if anything to test scale ability and such :) |
| [15:14:34] | Dagmar: | They'll have a gigE switch, and have run cat5 to the rooms. |
| [15:14:50] | Dagmar: | Just you wait and see |
| [15:14:55] | jams: | please keep me informed |
| [15:15:01] | GreyFoxx: | jams : Will do |
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| [15:15:36] | jams: | this is jumping the gun, but are you making a custom image for them? |
| [15:15:38] | Dagmar: | Or like I saw in Sumner County Schools, they'll have crimped the cables wrong, and the things will be running parallel down a 200 foot hallway, about two feet from the overhead fluorescent light baluns. |
| [15:16:10] | Dagmar: | There's nothing quite so cool as pulling out your multimeter and seeing there's 60V AC on a wire that isn't connected to a goddamn thing on the other end. |
| [15:16:28] | GreyFoxx: | jams: Not much custom other than removing the XML for functions they don't want visible |
| [15:16:46] | jams: | makes sense |
| [15:16:46] | GreyFoxx: | wow |
| [15:18:35] | GreyFoxx: | of course it means I'll have to find small little cases |
| [15:18:45] | GreyFoxx: | full pc desktop cases are not an option heh |
| [15:18:55] | GreyFoxx: | and decide on the board and such |
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| [15:20:34] | jams: | shuttles seem like a good fit to me |
| [15:21:55] | jams: | or an aopen mini pc |
| [15:23:35] | GreyFoxx: | Cool. I'd never seen those minipc's before |
| [15:25:58] | GreyFoxx: | The shuttle X100 looks nifty too, and has a slotloading dvd |
| [15:27:29] | jams: | $999 |
| [15:27:36] | fryfrog: | Anyone getting one of those crazy priced gf8800's? :) |
| [15:27:36] | jams: | tad high |
| [15:28:06] | Dagmar: | I'd need a MUCH more powerful PSU |
| [15:28:12] | Dagmar: | I'm sure that's going to throw a lot of people |
| [15:28:25] | fryfrog: | the 8800 GTX doesn't need an extra super psu |
| [15:28:27] | fryfrog: | or GTU? |
| [15:28:31] | Dagmar: | You don't typically expect a video card to require more power than the rest of your damn system put together |
| [15:28:32] | GreyFoxx: | 768meg fo ram on a video card? Crazy stuff |
| [15:28:33] | fryfrog: | what is the 2nd one, i forget |
| [15:28:36] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
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| [15:28:49] | fryfrog: | and where did they get those numbers? the other one has like 640mb or something |
| [15:28:52] | fryfrog: | 612 |
| [15:28:53] | fryfrog: | or what ever |
| [15:29:04] | fryfrog: | what ever happened to nice, even numbers like 512 or 1024 :) |
| [15:29:11] | fryfrog: | 256, etc |
| [15:29:51] | fryfrog: | I think I'm going to build new gaming computers sometime early next year for Supreme Commander. Hopefully by then, they will have a 8600 or 8400 that is *good* but not $500-$600 :) |
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| [15:32:49] | defaultro: | morning guys. I'm troubleshooting my firewire channels. I would like to know what value in fields on channel table should be unique? |
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| [15:33:57] | Chicago: | I'd rather get Jordy LaForge glasses than a $600 videocard. Maybe sometime in the future... |
| [15:34:26] | defaultro: | wow, that's too expensive. what vidcard is that? |
| [15:34:46] | fryfrog: | defaultro: what do you mean? when you are using firewire, i am pretty sure the *only* thing myth cares about is the number, because it will simply request the channel number from the cable box |
| [15:34:52] | fryfrog: | GF8800 that just came out |
| [15:35:05] | fryfrog: | of course, all high end new video cards are in the $500+ range, that isn't abnormal or anything |
| [15:35:06] | defaultro: | ok, here is my issue |
| [15:35:29] | defaultro: | previously, i aalready have COMCAST DIGITAL lineup in mythtv which is used by Fusion card |
| [15:35:38] | defaultro: | channels are 187,188 ....194 |
| [15:35:54] | defaultro: | I added another COMCAST DIGITAL via a different zip |
| [15:36:22] | defaultro: | then last night, i did a mythfilldatabase --sourceid 5 --update-channels-only something like this |
| [15:36:29] | fryfrog: | defaultro: does your Fusion card get *digital* channels or analog? |
| [15:36:36] | defaultro: | so now, I have two 188, 189, 190 ..... |
| [15:37:00] | defaultro: | when I try to select the number which i'm sure it's for DCT6200, it doesn't do anything |
| [15:37:18] | fryfrog: | defaultro: *if* both your cards get the same *actual* channels, why not just use *one* line up? |
| [15:37:35] | defaultro: | that's what i thought too but doesn't work |
| [15:37:43] | defaultro: | how will I tell to use DCT2000 |
| [15:37:45] | defaultro: | oops |
| [15:37:48] | defaultro: | DCT6200 |
| [15:37:49] | fryfrog: | I think the only *other* option is to give them different channels in *myth* :/ |
| [15:38:08] | defaultro: | if I do that, what will be used by /usr/local/bin/6200ch? |
| [15:38:10] | fryfrog: | Tell me about your *other* tv card? |
| [15:38:24] | defaultro: | Fusion HDTV lite |
| [15:38:29] | defaultro: | it's working fine |
| [15:38:31] | fryfrog: | Do you get an *identical* channel line up from firewire and the HD card? |
| [15:38:35] | defaultro: | yes |
| [15:38:40] | fryfrog: | or does the HDTV card only pick up a few channels |
| [15:38:48] | defaultro: | no issues with HDTV card |
| [15:38:51] | fryfrog: | so you get all 800+ channels with the HDTV card? |
| [15:38:57] | defaultro: | oh no |
| [15:38:58] | fryfrog: | right, i'm trying to understand your setup |
| [15:39:10] | defaultro: | i only care about 8 channels, i'm fine with that |
| [15:39:12] | fryfrog: | Let me tell you how *mine* is setup |
| [15:39:17] | defaultro: | wait |
| [15:39:20] | defaultro: | let me finish :) |
| [15:39:36] | defaultro: | that means, I only want to care about the same 8 channels for my firewire |
| [15:39:43] | fryfrog: | I have 2x air2pc cards, their channel line up is from "broadcast" and they are named like "5_1" and "5_10" (even though they are QAM cable) |
| [15:39:48] | defaultro: | fusion is connected via a coax |
| [15:39:52] | defaultro: | k |
| [15:40:16] | fryfrog: | my firewire cable boxes are bound to a "digital" cable line up, all their channels are like 1–800 |
| [15:40:16] | defaultro: | i'm listening :) |
| [15:40:22] | fryfrog: | so there is no dupe channels |
| [15:40:36] | defaultro: | how many firewire are u using in linux |
| [15:40:38] | fryfrog: | btw, if you have firewire working why do you only care about the same 8 channels? |
| [15:40:47] | fryfrog: | I have 2x DCT6412 boxes |
| [15:40:57] | defaultro: | because it's encrypted here in our area as compared to your area |
| [15:40:58] | defaultro: | :( |
| [15:41:05] | fryfrog: | pc ,_> box 1 <-> box 2 |
| [15:41:09] | defaultro: | which is fine with me |
| [15:41:13] | fryfrog: | really? |
| [15:41:17] | defaultro: | ah, daisy chained |
| [15:41:28] | fryfrog: | I read taht the DVR's tend to *not* encrypt anything on firewire |
| [15:41:33] | defaultro: | so you are saying that I should also use the same lineup that my fusion card is using? |
| [15:41:37] | fryfrog: | which is what I lucked out and ended up with |
| [15:41:44] | fryfrog: | defaultro: I don't see why not |
| [15:41:50] | defaultro: | ok, here is the issue |
| [15:41:57] | defaultro: | how will i tell to use the firewire capture card? |
| [15:42:01] | fryfrog: | defaultro: that way, it'll pick *any* device whenyou goto 188 |
| [15:42:03] | defaultro: | it always use my fusion |
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| [15:42:09] | fryfrog: | defaultro: change the priority |
| [15:42:14] | defaultro: | ? |
| [15:42:30] | defaultro: | i remember seeing a 0 in mythtv-setup |
| [15:42:31] | fryfrog: | defaultro: I gave my air2pc cards a +1 priority bump, so that shows that come from *both* will pick the air2pc cards |
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| [15:42:50] | fryfrog: | defaultro: and live tv is setup to use the "reduce conflicts" so it'll pick the firewire |
| [15:42:59] | defaultro: | wait, slow down :) |
| [15:43:10] | defaultro: | so priority should be bumped up |
| [15:43:16] | defaultro: | but what if I want to do this |
| [15:43:19] | fryfrog: | or down |
| [15:43:34] | fryfrog: | if you want you r*firewire* to be used first, bump up its priority |
| [15:43:43] | defaultro: | oh |
| [15:43:53] | defaultro: | is that the reason why it keeps using my Fusion? |
| [15:43:54] | fryfrog: | and you might want to fiddle with the live tv setting |
| [15:44:04] | fryfrog: | well, they are probably all *even* now |
| [15:44:06] | defaultro: | no worries about livetv |
| [15:44:11] | fryfrog: | in that case, i bet it just picks the first one in the list |
| [15:44:15] | defaultro: | what do you mean even? |
| [15:44:21] | fryfrog: | which would be the hdtv card since you added it first |
| [15:44:27] | defaultro: | ah |
| [15:44:36] | fryfrog: | well, if you have 2 different cards and the "priroity" is set to 0 on both... |
| [15:44:46] | fryfrog: | it probably just goes "oh, well i'll just use the first one he added" |
| [15:44:56] | defaultro: | and we can't force my firewire to be the first by just going to Program guide |
| [15:45:09] | fryfrog: | don't think so |
| [15:45:18] | fryfrog: | you could use Y to switch between inputs if you want |
| [15:45:22] | defaultro: | cause i saw Prefer input-> DCT6200 last night |
| [15:45:24] | fryfrog: | give them meaningful names :) |
| [15:45:41] | defaultro: | so here |
| [15:45:45] | fryfrog: | which do you *want* to be used mostly? |
| [15:46:01] | defaultro: | i want to use both so I can record same schedules |
| [15:46:08] | fryfrog: | I prefer my air2pc cards because they are local to the server |
| [15:46:08] | defaultro: | shows with the same schedules |
| [15:46:25] | defaultro: | say smallville at 7pm and another show at 7pm |
| [15:46:27] | fryfrog: | so you don't actually *care* which does the recording? |
| [15:46:31] | defaultro: | yes |
| [15:46:35] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [15:46:41] | fryfrog: | well, that should just work out of the box |
| [15:46:41] | defaultro: | as long as I see that firewire is recording |
| [15:46:49] | defaultro: | which i haven;t seen |
| [15:47:00] | fryfrog: | out of curiosity, why are you paying $10 / mo for an HD firewire box when you could get the same from a $100 hdtv card? |
| [15:47:08] | fryfrog: | defaultro: OHH, you wanna test firewire |
| [15:47:15] | fryfrog: | defaultro: if *livetv* works, you are fine :) |
| [15:47:24] | fryfrog: | just watch the "status" page in mythweb and cycle through inputs |
| [15:47:25] | defaultro: | i have tested this though. 6200ch -n 2 191 and then test-mpeg2 -n 2 > test.mpg. This works |
| [15:47:36] | fryfrog: | are you using p2p or broadcast? |
| [15:47:42] | defaultro: | p2p |
| [15:47:44] | fryfrog: | also, you might want to compile the "firewire_tester" |
| [15:47:55] | defaultro: | i used the box because my wife likes a channel that I can't record via myth |
| [15:47:59] | fryfrog: | do a few tests in p2p and a few in broadcast, see which works best |
| [15:48:05] | fryfrog: | defaultro: ahhh, i see |
| [15:48:14] | defaultro: | i never had troubles with test-mpeg2 |
| [15:48:18] | fryfrog: | defaultro: are you *sure* that *all* the output over firewire is encrypted? |
| [15:48:23] | defaultro: | i always get a recordnig |
| [15:48:27] | fryfrog: | defaultro: firewire_tester is *way* *way* better |
| [15:48:33] | defaultro: | yes, its encyrpted |
| [15:48:38] | fryfrog: | that sucks :( |
| [15:48:48] | defaultro: | i went to service menu on DCT6200 and 5c=1 |
| [15:48:51] | fryfrog: | I like that I can record like 300 channels from my firewire box :( |
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| [15:48:58] | defaultro: | sweet |
| [15:49:01] | fryfrog: | defaultro: have you actually *trid* it though? |
| [15:49:04] | defaultro: | yes |
| [15:49:07] | fryfrog: | defaultro: ah, suck |
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| [15:49:13] | defaultro: | i have a recording |
| [15:49:23] | fryfrog: | maybe you could get the crappy DVR for +$5/mo |
| [15:49:34] | defaultro: | there is a thread that i followed which converts our linux firewire as a vhs device |
| [15:49:39] | fryfrog: | glad they didn't ahve any more HD tuners when they came out :) |
| [15:49:47] | fryfrog: | I got a pair of the DVR's for the montly price of the Tuners |
| [15:49:55] | defaultro: | tool is called mpg123grab |
| [15:50:05] | defaultro: | i set it to an encypted channel and started capturing |
| [15:50:13] | defaultro: | it was non-zero |
| [15:50:15] | fryfrog: | just got static? |
| [15:50:20] | fryfrog: | or something |
| [15:50:27] | defaultro: | then mplayer didn't understand the format |
| [15:50:46] | defaultro: | the guy told me to look at the first offest in the header but i didn't see 0x47 |
| [15:50:56] | defaultro: | i remembering seeing 0x58 |
| [15:51:01] | defaultro: | 47 is mpeg2 |
| [15:51:07] | fryfrog: | ah ;( |
| [15:51:13] | fryfrog: | i feel for you sir! |
| [15:51:16] | defaultro: | yep |
| [15:51:22] | defaultro: | but he's working on it |
| [15:51:28] | fryfrog: | what channel is smallville on? |
| [15:52:06] | defaultro: | he is telling me that stb are dump because it will start sending if end device gets detected as video or tape |
| [15:52:14] | defaultro: | because our pc is not 5c compliant |
| [15:52:23] | defaultro: | s/dump/dumb/ |
| [15:52:31] | defaultro: | smallville is wgn |
| [15:52:34] | defaultro: | channel 9 here |
| [15:52:48] | defaultro: | so here fryfrog |
| [15:52:58] | defaultro: | i will delete the new lineup I added |
| [15:53:18] | defaultro: | run mythfilldatabase to delete the lineup that were inserted |
| [15:54:04] | defaultro: | then on 3. video sources in mythtv-setup, I will select COMCAST DIGITAL, the one that I used for my FUSION hdtv card |
| [15:54:11] | defaultro: | am I correct? |
| [15:54:19] | fryfrog: | sounds like it should work |
| [15:54:32] | defaultro: | then go to program guide, select a show to record now |
| [15:54:43] | defaultro: | then select another channel to record now |
| [15:54:50] | defaultro: | it should use the firewire card |
| [15:54:57] | defaultro: | because fusion is already recording |
| [15:55:07] | defaultro: | right? |
| [15:55:27] | defaultro: | and if it doesn't work, select bcast |
| [15:56:30] | defaultro: | the guy had a question for me |
| [15:56:31] | defaultro: | Had a look and the stream appears to be encrypted. |
| [15:56:31] | defaultro: | Do you know which level of 5C the source was? Copy once, Copy never? |
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| [15:57:11] | defaultro: | and do you know how we can check in 6200 what type of device it thinks the firewire card in linux is? |
| [15:57:52] | fryfrog: | I think you are pretty much 100% garenteed it isn't detecting it as supporting 5c :) |
| [15:58:20] | defaultro: | say that simpler |
| [15:58:31] | fryfrog: | Computers can't support 5c |
| [15:58:33] | defaultro: | it isn't detecting is as supporting 5c |
| [15:58:36] | defaultro: | ok |
| [15:58:43] | fryfrog: | well, maybe windows could |
| [15:58:54] | defaultro: | so question |
| [15:59:20] | fryfrog: | man, i wonder why mine is so wide open |
| [15:59:20] | defaultro: | if it thinks that it's 5c compliant, it will send a unencrypted stream? |
| [16:00:16] | fryfrog: | no |
| [16:00:23] | fryfrog: | it'll send an encrypted stream |
| [16:00:33] | fryfrog: | actually, it doesn't even care to detect anything |
| [16:00:35] | defaultro: | oh |
| [16:00:51] | defaultro: | what about HDTV sets with firewire inputs? |
| [16:00:54] | fryfrog: | if comcast marks a channel as encrypted, its sent encrypted. the device is responsible for being "compliant" and getting it |
| [16:01:03] | fryfrog: | they are 5c compliant, can decrypt it |
| [16:01:04] | defaultro: | how does it decrypt it? does it have decryption |
| [16:01:07] | defaultro: | oh |
| [16:01:10] | fryfrog: | yup |
| [16:01:23] | defaultro: | let me show you the thread |
| [16:01:36] | defaultro: | very interesting |
| [16:02:04] | defaultro: | http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=734242 |
| [16:03:06] | defaultro: | brb, i will just delete the lineup |
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| [16:04:12] | fryfrog: | oh, neat |
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| [16:07:22] | fryfrog: | So it looks like it sets your PC to pretend to be a HDTV device (which can't record) so the device sends unencrypted content to it? |
| [16:08:19] | defaultro: | i think so |
| [16:08:23] | defaultro: | that's what he was telling me |
| [16:08:36] | defaultro: | but other folks are not believing him |
| [16:08:39] | defaultro: | i don't know |
| [16:09:03] | defaultro: | i don't know which is true or what :) |
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| [16:09:28] | defaultro: | i've remove the lineup and pointed it to an existing lineup |
| [16:09:53] | defaultro: | what parameter is good for mythfilldatabase so it deletes those channel lineup? |
| [16:10:44] | defaultro: | will this work, mythfilldatabase --remove-new-channels --sourceid 5 |
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| [16:12:12] | defaultro: | or --do-channel-updates |
| [16:12:17] | fryfrog: | i dunno :/ |
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| [16:22:10] | can_: | hello |
| [16:22:32] | can_ is now known as KenC | |
| [16:22:40] | KenC is now known as NooWay | |
| [16:23:09] | NooWay: | hello, is there anyone use freecom dvb-t usb stick with MythTV? |
| [16:23:16] | NooWay: | I need some help |
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| [16:25:20] | jams: | NooWay- is that device supported by linux? |
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| [16:26:22] | NooWay: | yes |
| [16:26:24] | NooWay: | jams |
| [16:26:41] | NooWay: | i had already seen the pictures |
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| [16:26:58] | NooWay: | but i could not change the channels |
| [16:27:11] | NooWay: | once I changed, the screen freeze |
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| [16:28:03] | NooWay: | i try to change the tuning delay time to 2000 msecs, but still not working |
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| [16:32:09] | NooWay: | once I changed, the screen freeze |
| [16:32:10] | NooWay: | i try to change the tuning delay time to 2000 msecs, but still not working |
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| [17:03:02] | fish: | re |
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| [17:08:39] | Hoxzer: | re |
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| [17:09:03] | Pryon: | ^$ |
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| [17:13:53] | jduggan: | does anyone else not find the limitation of 'callsign' name a f**king pain? |
| [17:14:08] | fryfrog: | what is the limitation? |
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| [17:14:14] | jduggan: | i dunno |
| [17:14:15] | Lin: | hi all! |
| [17:14:21] | jduggan: | like 5 chars or something |
| [17:14:25] | jduggan: | the epg wont show more |
| [17:14:33] | Lin: | then... I have the first sucess in battle.. win X linux + mythtv |
| [17:14:35] | jduggan: | and in 'channel editor' it only uses 5chars |
| [17:14:36] | Dagmar: | Where are you that callsigns are longer than five characters? |
| [17:14:37] | fryfrog: | oh |
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| [17:14:47] | jduggan: | Dagmar: UK |
| [17:14:51] | Lin: | someone know if mplayer sypports dvd navigation? |
| [17:14:54] | jduggan: | Dagmar: 'channel 4' |
| [17:14:59] | djperegrine: | I am getting " NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /myth/tv/1002_20061110091456.mpg" |
| [17:15:00] | Dagmar: | jduggan: Not a callsign. |
| [17:15:01] | jduggan: | Lin: no it doesnt, but they're working on it |
| [17:15:06] | djperegrine: | on the frontend :( |
| [17:15:18] | jduggan: | Dagmar: what's a callsign then |
| [17:15:20] | djperegrine: | the TV will go black then just quit after a fe seconds |
| [17:15:32] | juski: | the internal mythtv player supports dvd navigation |
| [17:15:35] | Dagmar: | jduggan: A short series of letters and numbers used to identify the broadcaster to other receivers. |
| [17:15:44] | jduggan: | Dagmar: the epg shows the callsign right? |
| [17:15:47] | jduggan: | rather than the channel name |
| [17:15:49] | juski: | as does xine, ogle, vlc ... infact just about everything except mplayer :) |
| [17:15:53] | Dagmar: | ... like KQED, or W5F9X |
| [17:16:02] | Lin: | juski, yes.. all expect mlayer |
| [17:16:08] | Lin: | but mplayer is the best player |
| [17:16:15] | juski: | no its not |
| [17:16:19] | djperegrine: | do I have to iinstall something? |
| [17:16:20] | juski: | it doesn't support dvd menus! |
| [17:16:27] | Dagmar: | it's rather likely that BBC's Channel 4 is simply BBC4, since I keep seeing them say that |
| [17:16:36] | Lin: | juski, i simply love it.. :-) this is the only flaw |
| [17:16:50] | jduggan: | juski: does the internal player use mythfrontend's lirc config? |
| [17:17:00] | jduggan: | or does it have its own |
| [17:17:03] | juski: | they should all put their egos where the sun doesn't shine & make ONE really good player :-P |
| [17:17:13] | juski: | uses the same lircrc |
| [17:17:37] | jduggan: | Dagmar: i dont really care whats what, i just hate the fact that the epg only shows like 5 or 6 chars of the channel name, its quite ugly |
| [17:17:40] | Dagmar: | But if they did that they couldn't get their jollies from changing their APIs and watching the other projects squeal |
| [17:17:50] | Dagmar: | jduggan: Channel name != callsign |
| [17:17:51] | juski: | a mate of mine I talked to today is getting out of the OSS business. can't say I blame him. he's sick of users demanding stuff |
| [17:18:01] | jduggan: | Dagmar: channel name is restricted in mythfrontend end then |
| [17:18:04] | Merlin83b: | Talking to yourself again, juski? |
| [17:18:08] | juski: | jduggan: callsign is meaningless to us UK folks |
| [17:18:17] | jduggan: | atleast in all the themes ive used |
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| [17:18:28] | juski: | Merlin83b: no, the developer of a very popular oss 'meeja' player |
| [17:18:50] | Dagmar: | Considering this stuff stems from way, way back when shortwave ran things, I'm pretty darn sure every station in the UK has a callsign on their broadcasting licence |
| [17:18:53] | juski: | anyway, I say fuck the users, I'm doing a new theme |
| [17:19:13] | Merlin83b: | Heh |
| [17:19:24] | juski: | callsign for ITV1,2,3,4 & 5... SH1T3 |
| [17:19:26] | jduggan: | http://smashthestack.org/~jduggan/myth.jpg <--example of the epg being limited.. anyone able to tell me if this is fixable? |
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| [17:19:43] | juski: | jduggan: make a new OSD theme |
| [17:19:54] | juski: | like I'm gonna, one day |
| [17:19:59] | Dagmar: | yeah, that's just a freaking BUG |
| [17:20:02] | Lin: | juski, i put a dvd and optical disks -> play dvd, it plays the dvd and the menu intro but didn't allow the integration with menu navigation. there is a way to do it? as I could notice it is running mplayer under mythfrontend to reproduce DVDs. Im at ubuntu dapper. |
| [17:20:06] | Dagmar: | Some of those should line wrap at the very least |
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| [17:20:32] | juski: | Lin: so make the Internal (big hint there!) play the one to launch DVDs |
| [17:20:38] | jduggan: | juski: ah, so its an osd issue, are there themes that allow the full channel name? |
| [17:20:53] | juski: | jduggan: not AFAIK, but then I don't use livetv so I'm unlikely to care |
| [17:20:57] | Lin: | juski, it's calle Internal (right?) |
| [17:21:06] | juski: | yes Lin it's called Internal |
| [17:21:14] | Lin: | :-) |
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| [17:22:09] | Lin: | juski, in DVD Player Settings at DVD Player Command: right? |
| [17:22:30] | juski: | yes |
| [17:22:50] | juski: | for $deity's sakes, it's not gonna make your system explode if you put the wrong command in there |
| [17:23:00] | Lin: | i know :-) |
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| [17:24:42] | juski: | I'm a little bit angry at the 'free photo' websites I've been looking at which are 'borrowing' photos with the wrong kind of licence conditions from flickr |
| [17:24:48] | Lin: | juski, sorry.. maybe Im too lame.. but didn't work.. Utilities/Setup->Setup->Media Settings->DVD Settings->Play Settings->Dvd Player Command == Internal |
| [17:24:59] | juski: | mythtv 0.20 ? |
| [17:25:08] | Lin: | 0.18 |
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| [17:25:14] | juski: | doh |
| [17:25:19] | Lin: | ok.. i will try the latest version |
| [17:28:00] | Lin: | im using myth browser (version 0.20). I wish to know if there is a way to open the web sites with larger font sizes. Someone here knows? |
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| [17:28:30] | juski: | what? you can't be using 0.18 of one package & 0.20 of another |
| [17:28:35] | Lin: | no |
| [17:28:37] | Lin: | another host |
| [17:28:41] | Lin: | ;-) |
| [17:28:55] | Lin: | ubuntu edgy uses mythtv 0.20. |
| [17:29:06] | Lin: | im at ubuntu dapper uses mythtv 0.18.1 |
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| [17:29:19] | djperegrine: | my mythtv is messed up when I click watch tv it goes black then quitse t bac to the menu |
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| [17:29:37] | djperegrine: | and it says |
| [17:29:38] | juski: | djperegrine: post some error messages then someone might take notice |
| [17:29:51] | djperegrine: | NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /myth/tv/1002_20061110093304.mpg |
| [17:30:21] | djperegrine: | I can't figure out what is going on I installed all the codecs |
| [17:30:53] | juski: | what else did you install that made mythtv break? |
| [17:31:03] | djperegrine: | nothing it just didn't work |
| [17:31:23] | fysa: | aha! |
| [17:31:34] | fysa: | JFS = bad. |
| [17:31:39] | Lin: | juski, are you in a bad day? |
| [17:31:55] | juski: | nope. I'm normally like this |
| [17:32:02] | djperegrine: | I think what messed it up was I compiled the source then installed it, then I i upgraded ubuntu then I installed the mythtv package |
| [17:32:13] | juski: | djperegrine: whoops |
| [17:32:27] | djperegrine: | then I ran make uninstall and removed all the packages etc |
| [17:32:35] | djperegrine: | then added them again |
| [17:32:45] | djperegrine: | so yea |
| [17:32:51] | djperegrine: | its pretty messed up lol |
| [17:32:57] | Lin: | from nothing to a bad thing(tm) |
| [17:33:10] | djperegrine: | but I am almosst there |
| [17:33:11] | juski: | you might have old libs lying around that you don't want, djperegrine |
| [17:33:14] | djperegrine: | I just have this one error |
| [17:33:29] | djperegrine: | um |
| [17:33:41] | djperegrine: | ok? |
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| [17:34:17] | djperegrine: | so what should I do :O |
| [17:35:00] | juski: | find & remove all the mythtv libs |
| [17:35:13] | juski: | then reinstall it again, I think |
| [17:35:30] | djperegrine: | there is only one myth lib... mythlib :O |
| [17:35:43] | juski: | libmyth* |
| [17:35:47] | juski: | or so... |
| [17:35:48] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [17:35:58] | Lin: | some knoe about mplayerXP |
| [17:36:41] | Joffray: | I hear google.com does |
| [17:36:56] | Lin: | someone here has tested mplayerXP |
| [17:37:02] | fysa: | jfs writes on my 1.7TB RAID5/LV = 5–9 MB/sec. jfs writes on my 10GB RAID5/LV = 80MB/sec :/ |
| [17:37:11] | juski: | lin just use xine. it rocks at dvd playback |
| [17:37:17] | Dagmar: | Google also knows better than to talk about Windows software in a channel meant for software that only runs on Linux. |
| [17:37:19] | juski: | or upgrade to 0.20 |
| [17:38:22] | charlieS: | is there a way to have a frontend that can't make changes to anything backend related? Deleting recordings might be OK, but that's about all. |
| [17:38:30] | Dagmar: | fysa: Something is _very_ broken on your machine |
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| [17:38:49] | fysa: | It's jfs. |
| [17:38:55] | fysa: | on that partition.. |
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| [17:38:59] | Dagmar: | Not likely. |
| [17:39:01] | fysa: | 1.7 TB, 90% full, 50,000 files.. |
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| [17:39:07] | fysa: | just deleted 200,000 files off of it. |
| [17:39:13] | Dagmar: | One of those benchmarks is insanely off |
| [17:39:19] | fysa: | no.. |
| [17:39:22] | Dagmar: | Yes. |
| [17:39:24] | charlieS: | yea well writing tons of small files on RAID5 is, uh, Slow. |
| [17:39:32] | fysa: | that's one *big* file |
| [17:39:47] | juski: | jduggan: if the 10,000 of so whiny users I've encountered in my life didn't put me off caring so much I'd be working on making life easier for UK mythtv users |
| [17:39:56] | fysa: | dd if=/dev/zero of=test.dat bs=128k count=5000 -> 655360000 bytes (655 MB) copied, 137.328 seconds, 4.8 MB/s |
| [17:40:02] | Dagmar: | If you're comparing distinctly different types of disk writes and expecting the numbers to have meaning, you're an idiot. |
| [17:40:13] | djperegrine: | I reinstalled, same error |
| [17:40:14] | fysa: | WTF? |
| [17:40:16] | fysa: | Get out of here. |
| [17:40:26] | fysa: | I've been testing this for three days. :P |
| [17:40:35] | fysa: | The file system is fubar. |
| [17:40:57] | fysa: | Now watch this -> dd if=/dev/zero of=test.dat bs=128k count=5000 |
| [17:41:04] | djperegrine: | NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /myth/tv/1002_20061110094407.mpg |
| [17:41:06] | fysa: | on the fs that's never been used.. |
| [17:41:06] | djperegrine: | :( |
| [17:41:12] | fysa: | 655360000 bytes (655 MB) copied, 7.58069 seconds, 86.5 MB/s |
| [17:41:13] | juski: | fysa: there's such a thing as testing stuff too much & when you don;t understand the benchmarks you're running, it's an exercise in futility |
| [17:41:23] | charlieS: | fysa: is the RAID in degraded mode? |
| [17:41:26] | fysa: | nope. |
| [17:41:29] | fysa: | they are *both on the same RAID* |
| [17:41:33] | fysa: | and *both on the same VG* |
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| [17:42:46] | fysa: | my test case is larger than the RAM in the machine. the fs is choking, completely. |
| [17:43:00] | Dagmar: | The test case is broken |
| [17:43:04] | Dagmar: | ENTIRELY broken |
| [17:43:14] | fysa: | You're wrong. :P |
| [17:43:18] | charlieS: | using dd is the way to go, FWIW |
| [17:43:18] | fysa: | ENTIRELY wrong. :P |
| [17:43:20] | Dagmar: | You're measuring the speed of writing to _cached filesystem space_ |
| [17:43:42] | charlieS: | or mkfile.. but I'm not sure if linux has that (?) |
| [17:43:55] | Dagmar: | Run a damn sync to flush the buffers and base your time on that, or use Bonnie++ if you're not going to be smart enough to do the research so you know how to actually accurately measure things |
| [17:43:57] | fysa: | OK, let me bonnie it up and you'll see. :P |
| [17:44:13] | juski: | jduggan: you can pick up some mysql-fu to update vast swathes of channels ya know ;) |
| [17:44:16] | Joffray: | fine then, reformat it if you think its fubar |
| [17:44:44] | charlieS: | how many disks does this multi-TB RAID5 span? |
| [17:44:53] | fysa: | I don't understand where the animosity is coming from. I've been in this channel for a year now. :P |
| [17:45:01] | fysa: | I'm not new at this. :P |
| [17:45:02] | juski: | jduggan: a while ago I started a monster, automagical configurator thingy script for we UK folks. It's not got off the ground yet but if I can ever be bothered it'll rock |
| [17:45:09] | Dagmar: | You've apparently not been trying to fly this kind of silliness before then |
| [17:45:10] | charlieS: | fysa: yea, wtf? |
| [17:45:23] | Dagmar: | 5–8Mb/s is so impossibly slow an old 486 could keep up |
| [17:45:28] | fysa: | *exactly* |
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| [17:45:36] | Dagmar: | Your machine or your test environment is *broken* if you're seeing a number like that |
| [17:45:40] | fysa: | JFS is trashed. |
| [17:45:45] | Dagmar: | Don't try to blame JFS. You set it up |
| [17:45:59] | charlieS: | Dagmar: confirmed, now help him figure out why. |
| [17:45:59] | fysa: | .. *MY* JFS is trashed. :P |
| [17:46:00] | juski: | you know when you've seen dozens of rtfm questions in one day & you're sick to death of seeing it but still want to hang around & try to help out? |
| [17:46:07] | Dagmar: | If this were JFS's fault, you'd be seeing the same slow speed on both filesystems |
| [17:46:14] | fysa: | no. |
| [17:46:21] | fysa: | JFS on the other file system hasn't been touched in the last year.. |
| [17:46:26] | charlieS: | is there a fsck for JFS? |
| [17:46:29] | Dagmar: | But go ahead and reformat it so you'll stop trying to tell people this nonsense |
| [17:46:29] | ** Joffray smacks forehead ** | |
| [17:46:50] | fysa: | the JFS on this file system has crashed, gone to 100%, 200,000+ files and back multiple times. |
| [17:46:57] | fysa: | and it hasn't liked it. |
| [17:47:11] | Dagmar: | So why is it that you are using a known, damaged filesystem? |
| [17:47:17] | charlieS: | so newfs it :P |
| [17:47:19] | juski: | so grab everything off there you value while you still can, put it somewhere safe & change fs |
| [17:47:24] | Dagmar: | geez |
| [17:47:44] | fysa: | Because I just discovered the reason why the drive is slow.. |
| [17:47:48] | charlieS: | "this is vinnie's watch, and I want you to have it. you deserve it" |
| [17:47:54] | fysa: | so now I'm confirming it, and dealing with it. |
| [17:47:59] | Dagmar: | Because you've wrecked the filesystem, which makes your benchmark meaningless. |
| [17:48:16] | juski: | so lemme see... jfs is a crock, reiserfs is a crock.. what's left? ;) |
| [17:48:18] | fysa: | and I figured there may be more than one person here using jfs on a large filesystem in a real-world environment. |
| [17:48:31] | Dagmar: | I've no problems at all with JFS |
| [17:48:42] | fysa: | good. I hope it stays that way. |
| [17:48:46] | Dagmar: | Of course, I also have a UPS because no filesystem is going to tolerate what you did to that one. |
| [17:48:52] | fysa: | .. lordy |
| [17:49:16] | Lin: | juski, worked flawlessly |
| [17:49:17] | Dagmar: | Next time you might as well just use $RANDOM and dd to blow away a few thousand randomly-chosen sectors on the disk and then blame the filesystem for not being able to cope |
| [17:49:19] | Lin: | nice player |
| [17:49:41] | Lin: | it plays all kind of codecs? |
| [17:49:53] | charlieS: | er, he dd'd to a file.. what are you talking about Dagmar? |
| [17:50:05] | Lin: | im using myth browser (version 0.20). I wish to know if there is a way to open the web sites with larger font sizes. Someone here knows? |
| [17:50:10] | fysa: | Dagmar has no idea what's going on right now. |
| [17:50:29] | fysa: | He blasted me and is trying to make this personal. |
| [17:50:35] | Dagmar: | fysa: Neither do you apparently or you wouldn't be puzzling over this |
| [17:50:39] | ** charlieS starts a group hug ** | |
| [17:51:15] | fysa: | I'm not announcing my problems here asking for help — I've been working on this problem for the last week, tracing it through ACPI/DSDT/IRQ issues to drive/SATA controller problems and I've finally found it. |
| [17:51:24] | Dagmar: | I don't think you appreciate just how slow 5–8Mb/s actually is |
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| [17:51:53] | charlieS: | it's enough to keep up with SDTV :) |
| [17:52:03] | charlieS: | oh MB. gah. |
| [17:52:10] | ** charlieS slaps /me ** | |
| [17:52:11] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but that kind of speed out of SATA should have been cause to break out smartctl and audit the disks for fitness |
| [17:52:29] | fysa: | I'm announcing my problems here because it means I've finally _found_ it, and as this channel is logged at some point in the future it's possible that someone out there could suffer a similar problem and perhaps be helped by my findings. |
| [17:52:46] | juski: | heh. as if anyone searches the logs |
| [17:52:55] | fysa: | Google turns up the logs. :) |
| [17:52:57] | juski: | or reads the FAQ |
| [17:53:06] | Dagmar: | Because it's either going to be hardware failure, or someone having jacked up the journal in a pretty severe way, like say, by having a jillion files on it during a disk crash, and so on |
| [17:53:11] | fysa: | I lurked here for months before ever /joining just by searching the logs. |
| [17:53:14] | ** sigger searches the logs for references to people searching the logs ** | |
| [17:53:36] | Dagmar: | fysa: I would hope other people would know when to actually run fsck |
| [17:53:52] | Lin: | There is any way to make the mouse pointer appear over myth mithtv window? |
| [17:53:59] | fysa: | Anyway.. we all know this is experimental stuff. I didn't install Myth to 'watch TV,' and neither did any of you. :P |
| [17:54:22] | ** charlieS disagrees with that ** | |
| [17:54:25] | juski: | wha? |
| [17:54:34] | fysa: | Well. Eventually.. :P |
| [17:54:41] | juski: | Lin: in the appearance settings menus |
| [17:54:43] | Dagmar: | I installed it to watch TV and listen to music |
| [17:54:48] | Lin: | juski, thanks |
| [17:54:59] | xris: | Lin: I thought mouse support went into .20.. |
| [17:55:15] | juski: | jesus if I wanted to waste my time messing around with a hardly-ever works PVR app I'd have gone over to MediaPortal ages ago |
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| [17:55:48] | qu0zl: | or mce Juski |
| [17:56:03] | juski: | we love our mythtv in this house, and if it ever breaks (sometimes I break it), I get very anxious |
| [17:56:19] | dtm: | juski: you get very anxious if anything breaks, ever |
| [17:56:20] | fysa: | you married too? |
| [17:56:23] | dtm: | ^_^ |
| [17:56:35] | juski: | dtm: it's my perogative |
| [17:56:55] | dtm: | juski: it's not your prerogative to blame mythtv for your problems. |
| [17:57:09] | juski: | since when have I ever blamed mythtv for my problems? |
| [17:57:23] | dtm: | isn't that what you just said? ^_^ |
| [17:57:41] | dtm: | what's the "hardly-ever work PVR app" |
| [17:57:45] | fysa: | I resorted to lowering the bitrate on my PVR-500s to 3MB/sec so the wife wouldn't destroy me. ;) |
| [17:57:54] | juski: | it's only ever broken when I've done something daft like let / fill up |
| [17:58:21] | dtm: | fysa: lol what does your bitrate have to do with imminent wifely destruction? |
| [17:58:31] | juski: | and the 'if I wanted to waste my time'... bit means that I don't feel like I'm wasting my time with MythTV |
| [17:58:49] | dtm: | fysa: 3MBps is probably about the maximum they'd do anyway |
| [17:58:54] | juski: | but if all I wanted to do was screw around with software day & night I'd use something else |
| [17:59:02] | fysa: | poor write performance on my media partition = skipping video |
| [17:59:05] | dtm: | fysa: that'd be outrageous |
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| [17:59:16] | dtm: | juski: o i c <3 <3 |
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| [17:59:20] | dtm: | sorry. |
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| [17:59:44] | juski: | why I'm so damn angsty.. who knows.. maybe there's a full moon |
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| [18:00:53] | fysa: | dtm: I usually run 8000/9600 in myth for LiveTV .. it's much better when enlarged on the HD display. |
| [18:03:16] | fryfrog: | fysa: you never got your nfs write performance increased? |
| [18:03:21] | fysa: | haha |
| [18:03:22] | fysa: | fryfrog.. |
| [18:03:26] | fryfrog: | you should *easily* be able to write 2 HD streams over NFS :? |
| [18:03:31] | fysa: | I figured it out. |
| [18:03:51] | fysa: | my main media partition is fragmented or the journal is fried or something.. |
| [18:04:09] | fryfrog: | so you've fixed it? |
| [18:04:12] | fysa: | local writes (using dd) are 5MB – 9MB/sec |
| [18:04:20] | fysa: | the same speeds that I was getting over NFS ;) |
| [18:04:24] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [18:04:30] | fryfrog: | copy the data off and xfs format it :) |
| [18:04:32] | fryfrog: | copy it back on :) |
| [18:04:44] | dtm: | juski: yeah it's cool |
| [18:04:45] | Dagmar: | No, just copy the data off and blow the thing away. JFS is not responsible for that |
| [18:04:46] | fryfrog: | xfs has treated me right for quite a few years now :) |
| [18:05:04] | fysa: | I've got another filesystem on the same VG/RAID5 that is getting 60–80MB/sec writes after sorting out IRQ sharing issues. |
| [18:05:13] | Dagmar: | A 586 notebook running on a battery with a 4200rpm IDE disk could outrun that |
| [18:05:21] | fysa: | also jfs.. but totally empty and 30GB instead of 1.7TB |
| [18:05:23] | dtm: | fryfrog: are you somehow under the impression that there's a performance ceiling inherent in nfs? |
| [18:05:36] | fysa: | so yeah, I'm going to go back to xfs. |
| [18:05:52] | dtm: | Dagmar: that's pretty much what i have!! except it's a g3 powerbook <3 |
| [18:05:58] | Dagmar: | dtm: lol |
| [18:06:01] | dtm: | so it rools your socks |
| [18:06:02] | fysa: | after I run bonnie a few times and log everything I can. |
| [18:06:19] | Dagmar: | Wipe and reformat the jfs filesystem and it will return to normal |
| [18:06:41] | Dagmar: | unless it was just screwed up to begin with, which is possible |
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| [18:07:51] | fysa: | just have to figure out a way to back up all of this data so I can remake the partition.. ;) |
| [18:07:59] | fysa: | almost makes me want to go reisferfs next time because it can shrink. |
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| [18:08:12] | OhYeah1: | hey whats up |
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| [18:10:10] | fysa: | anyconvertfs might be fun to try.. :P |
| [18:10:17] | Dagmar: | JFS can *grow* without even being unmounted, which IMHO makes it more useful |
| [18:10:55] | OhYeah1: | Is there anywhere I can find a good cards that are well supported? |
| [18:10:55] | djperegrine: | I got iworking :DD: :D:DD: |
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| [18:11:16] | djperegrine: | however my video is choppy and the sound lags from the video |
| [18:11:17] | fysa: | OhYeah1: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
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| [18:11:47] | OhYeah1: | thanks man |
| [18:11:58] | fysa: | the Hauppage cards are pretty well supported. |
| [18:12:12] | Dagmar: | Pfft. I'm getting 36Mb/s writing to a non-raid, simply LVM spanned pair of 250Gb 7200 RPM IDE drives on teh same controller |
| [18:12:15] | OhYeah1: | Anyone using gentoo as their core distro? |
| [18:12:34] | Dagmar: | This is why I'm saying something has to be *broken*, not just inefficient, for someone to get 5–8Mb/s on a RAID5 SATA array |
| [18:12:37] | fysa: | Lots of gentoo/myth HOWTOs on google. |
| [18:13:06] | OhYeah1: | I am just curious... I am a Gentoo user but was curious how well it was supported before I go into this |
| [18:13:45] | fysa: | KnoppMyth may be easier to start out with. |
| [18:14:06] | djperegrine: | ubuntu 6.10 + apt-get mythtv is really easy to |
| [18:14:17] | djperegrine: | and you have a real , supported OS :P |
| [18:14:51] | OhYeah1: | Now if I am using something like Charter which uses a cable box... will I still be using the box or what? |
| [18:15:29] | fryfrog: | dtm: of course nfs is only limited by hd write speed, network speed and i'm sure at some theoretical point cpu or memory or something, but mainly just network and disk |
| [18:16:07] | OhYeah1: | Will I just run the cable through the cable box from Charter and into the PC than back out to the TV? |
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| [18:18:32] | OhYeah1: | Anyone? |
| [18:19:58] | juski: | djperegrine: apart from if you want mp3 playback which doesn't depend on gstreamer, but hey... oh yeah and apart from if you want a fully functional ffmpeg without compiling it yourself, but hey.... |
| [18:20:30] | mirak: | hi |
| [18:20:38] | mirak: | anyone have experience with lirc ? |
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| [18:21:11] | mirak: | can lirc intercept any remote signal, like for exemple my tv remote just use the same ? |
| [18:21:17] | mirak: | to just |
| [18:21:28] | djperegrine: | juski eh? |
| [18:21:39] | djperegrine: | I don't get what you mean |
| [18:22:10] | dtm: | mirak: i was under the impression that it can be programmed, and that all remote controls use the same IR signal |
| [18:22:11] | mirak: | is there an osd help ? |
| [18:22:26] | dtm: | mirak: but it's all about what IR adaptor you use |
| [18:22:35] | mirak: | dtm I see |
| [18:22:59] | mirak: | does the IR all needs to be pointed at directly ? |
| [18:23:02] | dtm: | mirak: the sure-fire way to handle it is to buy a kit. |
| [18:23:10] | dtm: | mirak: IR is fairly directional |
| [18:23:12] | mirak: | I guess I will need to invest in a cable |
| [18:23:20] | dtm: | in what cable |
| [18:23:29] | mirak: | a wire |
| [18:23:40] | mirak: | because the IR is RS232 plug |
| [18:23:42] | dtm: | mirak: i have a kit which included an mpeg2/mp3 digitizer, an IR port, and an IR remote |
| [18:23:48] | mirak: | if I plug it it will be at the back of the computer |
| [18:23:56] | dtm: | oic |
| [18:24:12] | mirak: | I got a second hand DVB-C card, and the guy also gave me a remote with IR |
| [18:24:49] | mirak: | a TT 2.1 for 65€, I think I didn't got robbed, since it's not allowed to be sold by shops here in france |
| [18:25:24] | mirak: | if I bought a brand new one, it would have cost 98 euros on dvbshop.net, plus 14€ of shipping |
| [18:25:31] | mirak: | shippment |
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| [18:26:43] | mirak: | the remote is ugly though |
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| [18:31:13] | reeddler: | hello |
| [18:31:28] | reeddler: | any developers around |
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| [18:32:54] | mirak: | is it possible to enable post processing when playing video ? |
| [18:33:01] | mirak: | or a recording |
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| [18:35:43] | Pryon: | It is possible to play a video while transcoding (for example). Is that what you mean? |
| [18:35:54] | Pryon: | s/video/recording/ |
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| [18:36:35] | Pryon: | That is, you can start watching the recording, hit 'm' and select begin transcode, then go back to watching. |
| [18:37:32] | psofa: | which of the *crons will execute missed jobs while the system was down? |
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| [18:39:45] | sphery: | psofa: fcron and I'm pretty sure anacron does, too. |
| [18:39:53] | sphery: | I like fcron, myself |
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| [18:40:11] | psofa: | sphery, ty ill try it |
| [18:40:36] | sphery: | I think anacron needs another cron, anyway, (like fcron). |
| [18:42:13] | GreyFoxx: | man that would be scary unless implemented VERY well :) |
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| [18:45:12] | Lin: | there is a little line in center of screen while im watching dvd with internal player. someone else saw this? it's like a little problem on video decoding... mplayer didn't show this problem |
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| [18:46:17] | stuarta: | evening all |
| [18:46:19] | sphery: | GreyFoxx: Are you the Retro-OSD decision maker? |
| [18:46:42] | sphery: | afternoon, stuarta :) |
| [18:47:04] | stuarta: | :) |
| [18:47:18] | mirak: | does mythtv allow to dig into folders for videos ? |
| [18:47:36] | sphery: | mirak: MythVideo does, MythTV doesn't. |
| [18:47:48] | mirak: | ? |
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| [18:48:00] | sphery: | however, Chris Pinkham (Captain_Murdoch) is working on allowing multiple storage directories for recordings. |
| [18:48:18] | mirak: | hem if I put my home folder for videos or mp3 does mythtv do the difference ? |
| [18:48:30] | mirak: | I remember mythtv became a bit heavy when doing this ... |
| [18:48:31] | mirak: | lol |
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| [18:49:21] | sphery: | mirak: MythVideo (the plugin that plays non-recorded video) would, but you'd get a lot of junk in there, too. |
| [18:49:44] | sphery: | IMHO the best bet is to create separate "videos" directory with all your videos |
| [18:49:52] | sphery: | Or at least with symlinks to your videos |
| [18:49:55] | sphery: | and nothing else. |
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| [18:50:06] | mirak: | I think I will create a mythtv folder with symlinks |
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| [18:50:15] | sphery: | Have fun. |
| [18:50:18] | mirak: | to image, video etcetera |
| [18:50:52] | sphery: | Yeah. Will work best if you do the same for images for MythGallery, for music for MythMusic, and for the videos for MythVideo. |
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| [18:51:13] | mirak: | do you know Tracker ? |
| [18:51:32] | sphery: | Never heard of it. Sorry. |
| [18:51:34] | mirak: | sphery: tracker is an indexing system. I tied it |
| [18:51:36] | mirak: | tried it |
| [18:51:49] | mirak: | it's like beagle, but way better |
| [18:53:41] | sphery: | Found it. |
| [18:54:04] | sphery: | Unfortunately, the name is too common throughout the net in other contexts |
| [18:54:07] | sphery: | Sounds pretty cool. |
| [18:54:25] | mirak: | there is an implementation into nautilus |
| [18:54:38] | mirak: | that's what I tried |
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| [18:55:15] | mirak: | this blow away any search too I know |
| [18:55:34] | sphery: | Sounds a lot like locate, but also uses metadata from the files? |
| [18:55:51] | mirak: | yes |
| [18:56:11] | mirak: | I don't know exactly how it works but it also index bases on content of text files |
| [18:56:52] | sphery: | If it honors filesystem permissions/ACL's, it sounds like it would actually be a nice addition to my systems. |
| [18:57:25] | mirak: | you mean a search on permissions ? |
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| [18:57:58] | mirak: | I used only to index my $HOME, but maybe there is a way to have it global |
| [18:58:11] | mirak: | can you show me the link, I forgot it |
| [18:58:12] | sphery: | Actually, I mean that if user bob searches for something it doesn't show files bob can't access |
| [18:58:20] | mirak: | ok |
| [18:58:27] | sphery: | http://www.gnome.org/~jamiemcc/tracker/ |
| [18:58:39] | mirak: | the tracking daemon can be per user |
| [18:59:00] | sphery: | documentation link is 404'ed |
| [18:59:38] | sphery: | The FAQ seems to be a bit repetitive. |
| [18:59:48] | sphery: | (Need to brush up on my Latin, though.) |
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| [19:07:49] | wreckage: | I have sound going through my pvr350, how do I tell myth to play it through soundcard |
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| [19:08:22] | djperegrine: | how do I fix "NVP: prebuffering pause" |
| [19:08:26] | djperegrine: | my video is choppy |
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| [19:09:26] | mirak: | wreckage: you choosed wich type of card ? |
| [19:09:50] | wreckage: | well, it seems like whatever options I choose in mythfrontend, it doesn't matter |
| [19:10:05] | wreckage: | my main problem is that I cna't get the internal or myplayer to play divx sound in mythvideo |
| [19:10:07] | mirak: | that's from tuner ? |
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| [19:10:23] | mirak: | it's mpeg2 |
| [19:10:28] | wreckage: | yeah |
| [19:10:37] | wreckage: | but can I not play divx through? |
| [19:10:42] | wreckage: | which is mpeg1, layer 3 |
| [19:11:00] | wreckage: | they're saying it just can't process the sound or something |
| [19:11:18] | wreckage: | so i'm wondering if I hook it through my sound card, then hook an audio cable from soundcard out to pvr in |
| [19:11:32] | mirak: | I am a bit tired of the minimalism of gnome |
| [19:11:43] | mirak: | I am going to install kde back .. |
| [19:11:50] | wreckage: | that's what i'm running |
| [19:12:01] | mirak: | I think they could do efforts on nautilus |
| [19:12:09] | mirak: | but I prefer gnome looks |
| [19:12:25] | mirak: | maybe there a gnome skins for kde ... |
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| [19:13:14] | OhYeah1: | Does mythtv act as a window manager or something? |
| [19:13:47] | GreyFoxx: | Nope |
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| [19:14:24] | OhYeah1: | So how does it handle interfacing with the TV? |
| [19:14:40] | GreyFoxx: | It doesn't |
| [19:14:43] | GreyFoxx: | Myth talks to X |
| [19:14:50] | GreyFoxx: | X / your video driver talks to the TV |
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| [19:15:07] | OhYeah1: | ok |
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| [19:15:15] | simcop2387: | hmm how long has CC been working with pvr-150s? |
| [19:15:30] | OhYeah1: | I am curious as to how I will use my cablebox in oder to get all of my channels from my cable provider? |
| [19:15:33] | GreyFoxx: | simcop2387: depends on your combination of kernel and ivtv version |
| [19:15:46] | GreyFoxx: | simcop2387: with the right combination for a while now |
| [19:16:44] | GreyFoxx: | OhYeah1: Normally the output of the cable box plugs into your capture card, and myth can be configured to call an external app to use an IR blaster to "fake" the remote control and change the channel on the cable box. |
| [19:16:58] | GreyFoxx: | As well if your cable box has firewire (and it's enabled) you can record via that |
| [19:17:06] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: nice i never noticed |
| [19:17:25] | OhYeah1: | GreyFoxx: Sounds good |
| [19:17:42] | fryfrog: | OhYeah1: firewire is the way to go, if it works for you :) |
| [19:18:30] | OhYeah1: | firewire for what? |
| [19:20:45] | GreyFoxx: | recording |
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| [19:21:12] | GreyFoxx: | If your cable box has a firewire connector and it's turned on then you can potentially record over it and change channel with it |
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| [19:22:23] | sphery: | GreyFoxx: I noticed on Retro-OSD that if you have the Info display up and you type in number (i.e. for seek 13 minutes or channel change or soemthing), you can't really see them as they're right on top of the channel info. |
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| [19:23:32] | sphery: | I'm planning to patch my copy--was thinking about just moving the container to the top left like in the original isthmus--but was wondering if it were something that should be patched "correctly" in trunk... |
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| [19:23:53] | sphery: | If so, I'm looking for suggestions on the "correctly" part of the patch. :) |
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| [19:27:56] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: you forgot to mention *and* the output is mostly unencrypted :) |
| [19:29:13] | wreckage: | i've have no sound through mythtv, help =( |
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| [19:30:10] | sphery: | wreckage: http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html |
| [19:31:06] | wreckage: | hah thanks |
| [19:31:12] | sphery: | hope it help |
| [19:31:19] | wreckage: | I was running sound through my pvr350 |
| [19:31:26] | wreckage: | now i'm trying it just from my sound card |
| [19:31:39] | wreckage: | but the audio setup in mythfrontend doesn't seem to make a difference |
| [19:31:47] | wreckage: | when I change around the options from adsp and dsp |
| [19:31:53] | wreckage: | and from alsa to default for the passthrough |
| [19:32:21] | sphery: | When you're using the PVR-350 hardware decoder, sound /always/ goes through the PVR-350. |
| [19:32:26] | sphery: | Then, you need to |
| [19:32:33] | sphery: | "loop" through the sound card |
| [19:32:50] | wreckage: | but it can't process mpeg1 sound can it? |
| [19:32:52] | sphery: | i.e. PVR-350 audio out -> sound card line in |
| [19:33:29] | fryfrog: | It is the opinion of a number of people that the PVR350 tvout is not worth fiddling with |
| [19:33:35] | sphery: | The non-PVR-350-decoder video types are automatically decoded in software by MythTV (both video and audio) and the audio is output through the sound card |
| [19:33:42] | fryfrog: | since it *only* accelerates mpeg2 and is such a pain in the ass |
| [19:33:53] | wreckage: | yeah |
| [19:34:07] | wreckage: | well it was working great except no sound when playing divx video |
| [19:34:11] | wreckage: | which irritates me |
| [19:34:14] | sphery: | Since the sound card is outputting to the speakers (after capturing PVR-350 audio out via its line in), you get sound for MPEG-2, MPEG-4, whatever |
| [19:34:25] | sphery: | I'm also of the opinion the PVR-350 tvout is not worth it. |
| [19:34:31] | sphery: | I have a 350, but use an NVIDIA. |
| [19:34:39] | wreckage: | so spherry |
| [19:34:52] | sphery: | 350 has too many drawbacks, so it's /only/ appropriate on a very-significantly-underpowered machine. |
| [19:34:57] | wreckage: | you use the red/white audio outs from the pvr into the mic of your soundcard |
| [19:35:08] | wreckage: | then the soundcard, out to the tv? |
| [19:35:48] | wreckage: | i bought a cable today, just an 1/8" audio cable, hoping to loop the out from sound into the pvr350 |
| [19:35:51] | wreckage: | but that didn't help |
| [19:36:43] | juski: | you'd need to plug the 1/8" audio cable from the pvr350 audio output to the soundcard line input, then unmute the line input – the _opposite_ of what you ordinarily do with tuner audio outputs ;) |
| [19:37:07] | sphery: | PVR-350 audio out (red/white RCA connectors) to sound card line in (using a RCA->mini-jack "Y" cable) then sound card audio out to speakers or A/V receiver (with another Y cable). Using line in is preferred over mic because mic does things like boost/gain |
| [19:37:11] | wreckage: | the only 1/8" audio port on the pvr is in the in I think |
| [19:37:23] | juski: | and mic inputs tend to only be mono (eew) |
| [19:38:06] | ** juski wonders when the pvr350 is finally gonna get its coffin nailed up properly ** | |
| [19:38:23] | wreckage: | if I had my life to live overagain, I would have got a 500 + sound card |
| [19:38:26] | ** stuarta has beer :) ** | |
| [19:38:34] | sphery: | Yeah, the 350 uses a "bundle-o-cables" with a "proprietary" mini-din connector for S-Video, Composite, and Audio out--not a mini-jack output. |
| [19:38:42] | wreckage: | yeah |
| [19:38:47] | wreckage: | stupid propietary cable |
| [19:39:02] | sphery: | juski: that, too. Forgot about the mono. |
| [19:39:28] | wreckage: | alright, stupid question |
| [19:39:30] | sphery: | wreckage: it's only "semi" proprietary. |
| [19:39:40] | sphery: | identical cables are used by many manufacturers. |
| [19:39:40] | ** juski goes back to removing a white fringe from an image of a flatscreen tv ** | |
| [19:39:43] | wreckage: | this ghetto pc i'm using |
| [19:39:55] | wreckage: | for audio ports has like green, pink, and something else |
| [19:40:00] | wreckage: | for mic, speaker, input? |
| [19:40:01] | sphery: | It's basically not a "standard" connection like S-Video, but it's standard S-Video with a couple of extra pins. |
| [19:40:12] | sphery: | pink is usually mic. |
| [19:40:17] | wreckage: | green is speaker |
| [19:40:18] | sphery: | Maybe blue for line? |
| [19:40:21] | wreckage: | i'm thinking the other is the input |
| [19:40:23] | simcop2387: | damn cw |
| [19:40:23] | wreckage: | yeah blue |
| [19:40:28] | juski: | just because you _can_ run mythtv on a machine Charles Babbage would have only dreamed of, doesn't mean you should ;) |
| [19:40:29] | simcop2387: | screwing up video |
| [19:40:35] | psofa: | sphery, about fcron, does it also properly execute the missed jobs outside of cron.{daily,hourly....}? |
| [19:40:45] | wreckage: | damn it, so I have to go buy another Y cable now |
| [19:41:01] | wreckage: | sphery |
| [19:41:03] | simcop2387: | 15 minutes of a show with no audio |
| [19:41:11] | wreckage: | so do you have any problems playing divx in mythvideo? |
| [19:42:43] | simcop2387: | wreckage: with the Internal player? no, i only have problems with it with some esoteric files usually |
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| [19:43:38] | sphery: | wreckage: I bought all the Y cables I would need, hooked everything up, and then decided the PVR-350's audio wasn't worth it, so I went and bought a GF4MX440 and now I have like 4 Y cables sitting there unused... |
| [19:43:54] | jduggan: | whats a good program other than mythtv to watch live tv? |
| [19:43:57] | simcop2387: | sphery: ebay! |
| [19:43:59] | wreckage: | i have some at work |
| [19:44:06] | fryfrog: | a TV! |
| [19:44:10] | fryfrog: | tvtime, xawtv |
| [19:44:14] | simcop2387: | jduggan: what kind of card? if its just a bttv card type thing look intu tvtime |
| [19:44:18] | fryfrog: | though they don't work with mpeg2 cards afaik? |
| [19:44:20] | simcop2387: | tvtime > xawtv |
| [19:44:24] | jduggan: | simcop2387: pvr150 |
| [19:44:26] | fryfrog: | mplayer can do it too? |
| [19:44:41] | simcop2387: | jduggan: mplayer and ivtv-tune -c channel works fine |
| [19:44:42] | wreckage: | sphery: so do you think that I wont have a problem with divx movies |
| [19:44:51] | simcop2387: | jduggan: why don't you want to use mythtv? |
| [19:44:56] | wreckage: | if i go from pvr350 -> soundcard -> tv ? |
| [19:45:03] | reeddler: | I have a weird problem where firewire recorder starts recording a few secs before the channel switch... resulting in a gap which confuses ffmpeg, mythtranscode |
| [19:45:09] | fryfrog: | cause mythtv is for bitches! |
| [19:45:21] | reeddler: | firewire setup... |
| [19:45:30] | fryfrog: | reeddler: use an external channel change script and build in a small pause before returning |
| [19:45:41] | fryfrog: | ie, ch6200, sleep 2 |
| [19:46:03] | ** reeddler slaps himself on forehead ** | |
| [19:46:15] | ** stuarta suggests the trout ** | |
| [19:46:31] | fryfrog: | I use an external script that actually changes the channel, then *tests* firewire and if it isn't working it resets it |
| [19:46:44] | fryfrog: | that takes long enough to be *sure* the channel change has taken place :) |
| [19:47:06] | fryfrog: | speaking of which, i need to post my p2p & broadcast version to the wiki |
| [19:47:23] | reeddler: | oh... btw... I've an external channel switcher i've put together for SA4200HD hacking the older version which wasnt working w/the new box.. how do I submit it to mythtv developers? |
| [19:47:27] | sphery: | wreckage: No problem with DivX--Myth will decode in software. |
| [19:47:53] | jduggan: | simcop2387: 'livetv' through mythtv seems to have some quality loss from watching it straight to the tv from the satelite decoder, i want to see what streaming live tv quality is like rather than encoded tv |
| [19:47:57] | reeddler: | fryfrog that priming thing makes firewire a biatch sometimes |
| [19:48:46] | wreckage: | sphery: so do you agree that it isn't working now cause of my pvr350? |
| [19:48:54] | wreckage: | cause mpg sound works, but divx does not |
| [19:49:16] | fryfrog: | reeddler: submit a patch to the svn.mythtv.org thing, I did the same for my patch to 6200ch.c :) |
| [19:49:40] | fryfrog: | reeddler: priming thing? i assume you mean the "sometimes firewire just stops fucking working" crap? |
| [19:49:47] | reeddler: | yeah |
| [19:50:18] | fryfrog: | reeddler: i had a *hell* of a time with the "p2p" setting on my DCT6412. It would *fail* about 50% of the time or something |
| [19:50:24] | reeddler: | even worth.. sometimes it starts to work... and it buts the 5hit out of me... what was that I did to fix it... cuz i know it will break a few weeks down the road |
| [19:50:37] | reeddler: | s/buts/bugs |
| [19:50:40] | fryfrog: | ever since I switched to "broadcast" (which for a long time I believed was *inferior* rather than just being an alternative) |
| [19:50:53] | fryfrog: | it has been about 98% success and my script catches the other 2% |
| [19:51:26] | fryfrog: | reeddler: the thing I hate *most* is that my 2 boxes will sometimes change their "node" :/ |
| [19:51:54] | fryfrog: | sometimes they'll be on node 0 and 1, sometimes 0 and 2 |
| [19:51:56] | reeddler: | well.. what are you waiting for young man... go go put that code on the wiki... show everyone that you put the "fry" into the "fryfrog" |
| [19:51:58] | simcop2387: | jduggan: ah, to deal with that go play with the quality settings in the setup->TV Settings->recording profiles, you can make it look better (at the expense of drive space/pause time) |
| [19:52:12] | reeddler: | ha.. never happened to me.. maybe cuz I only have one box |
| [19:52:14] | fryfrog: | usually they swap when one reboots (pc or the dct) |
| [19:52:34] | fryfrog: | reeddler: the second to latest version is there :) |
| [19:52:39] | fryfrog: | now i gotta remember *where* it is :p |
| [19:53:03] | reeddler: | I think I saw it last nite on wiki.. around 3AM.... i knew something looked different :) |
| [19:53:44] | SavageOne: | howdie folks |
| [19:53:52] | SavageOne: | I need to install the mceusb2 driver for my remote |
| [19:53:57] | reeddler: | howdie fella |
| [19:54:02] | SavageOne: | is there an apt-get command for that? I've got knoppmyth |
| [19:54:14] | reeddler: | apt-cache search mceusb2 |
| [19:54:25] | SavageOne: | cool |
| [19:54:28] | sphery: | wreckage: Yep. Once you do the Y connectors to loop through the sound card, all will work. |
| [19:54:33] | SavageOne: | I've never done apt-cache |
| [19:54:47] | reeddler: | how do you search for the packages then? |
| [19:54:52] | sphery: | wreckage: However, instead of getting more Y connectors, you could always get a $30 NVIDIA 5200... |
| [19:54:56] | sphery: | :) |
| [19:55:08] | kraut: | moin |
| [19:56:08] | SavageOne: | hey |
| [19:56:11] | SavageOne: | if apt-cache finds it |
| [19:56:12] | SavageOne: | then what |
| [19:56:21] | simcop2387: | jduggan: with the pvr-* cards you'll never get non-encoded video, they only give out mpeg2 video but you can adjust the quality to make it work better |
| [19:57:22] | sphery: | wreckage: The PVR-350 works great--the same as a PVR-150 or PVR-250--for recording, so if you just tell Myth not to use its hardware decoder, you can use the NVIDIA output without replacing your 350. |
| [19:57:37] | juski: | finally! I own that image |
| [19:58:47] | reeddler: | then apt-get install pkgname |
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| [20:03:02] | SavageOne: | aHH |
| [20:03:06] | SavageOne: | so it finds the package name |
| [20:03:06] | Curus: | Is it possible to run myth with a database password different from "mythtv"? |
| [20:03:07] | SavageOne: | nice |
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| [20:04:14] | fryfrog: | Curus: of course it is |
| [20:04:36] | fryfrog: | still gotta store the password in plain text though, so in the end it doesn't matter |
| [20:04:51] | Curus: | Yes, but where do I keep the password then? |
| [20:04:54] | fryfrog: | restrict the account to 'localhost' or your local network at least to provide some "security" |
| [20:05:10] | fryfrog: | search your system for "mysql.txt", it'll be one of those in a mythtv looking place |
| [20:05:19] | fryfrog: | like perhaps ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [20:05:24] | fryfrog: | or /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [20:05:29] | fryfrog: | depends on your install, distro, etc |
| [20:05:40] | fryfrog: | but the file "mysql.txt" is *almost* exclusivly mythtv's :) |
| [20:06:07] | sphery: | psofa: Sorry for the late reply--doing too many things at once... I don't know for sure about the missed job execution, but I think it's only for the "entries run periodically". Those at specific times are just missed. Those based on uptime were never missed. :) |
| [20:06:28] | sphery: | So, short answer, yeah, I think it's only the *ly jobs. |
| [20:06:38] | psofa: | damn :/ |
| [20:06:44] | sphery: | If you want more, look into anacron (which I think works in addition to fcron) |
| [20:07:16] | Curus: | Hmm that mysql.txt is elusive. |
| [20:07:56] | SavageOne: | guys |
| [20:08:02] | SavageOne: | if I apt-get this mceusb2 driver |
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| [20:08:08] | SavageOne: | do I still need to recompile lirc |
| [20:08:12] | SavageOne: | or will it just toss it in there |
| [20:08:19] | fryfrog: | anyone know how to do <code> in the wiki w/o putting two spaces in front of every stupid line? |
| [20:08:25] | SavageOne: | I'm looking to do lirc-reconfig.sh and get the mceusb2 thing as a choice right? |
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| [20:08:37] | Curus: | Ah, found it |
| [20:08:37] | SavageOne: | i've narrowed it down to my remote needing it since it's the new fangled usb mce remote from hauppauge |
| [20:09:02] | reeddler: | <pre></pre> |
| [20:09:13] | fryfrog: | reeddler: that was to me, right? |
| [20:09:19] | reeddler: | yessir |
| [20:09:22] | sphery: | psofa: Oh, but, IIRC, anacron only allows for "system" jobs--no user-specific tabs. |
| [20:09:28] | reeddler: | what is it.. mediawiki? |
| [20:09:35] | fryfrog: | uh, what ever mythtv's is? |
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| [20:09:39] | psofa: | sphery, thats no problem |
| [20:09:52] | fryfrog: | yeah, mediawiki |
| [20:10:23] | reeddler: | that should work |
| [20:11:51] | SavageOne: | mediawiki is awesome |
| [20:11:57] | SavageOne: | but it needs the newest php |
| [20:12:01] | SavageOne: | which might foul up your toehr stuff |
| [20:12:08] | SavageOne: | I gave it a shot and fucked my groupware system up |
| [20:12:48] | juski: | grrr what is it with sudo timing out |
| [20:13:07] | reeddler: | I'm sticking to TWiki |
| [20:13:10] | SavageOne: | I just do su - |
| [20:13:14] | SavageOne: | wordpress is nice too... |
| [20:13:19] | SavageOne: | never heard of twiki |
| [20:13:20] | SavageOne: | nice? |
| [20:13:23] | reeddler: | rulz |
| [20:13:42] | juski: | I hope this isn't people talking about yet another doc for mythtv stuff. that's what the wiki at mythtv.org is for |
| [20:14:18] | SavageOne: | I'm not hehe |
| [20:14:27] | juski: | the internet is full of Uncle Bob's Mythtv Howto guides |
| [20:14:28] | SavageOne: | I have a wiki for my techs here to track solutions to problems and stuff |
| [20:14:30] | SavageOne: | privately |
| [20:14:34] | SavageOne: | mythtvs wiki is nice |
| [20:14:36] | SavageOne: | so is knoppmyths |
| [20:14:49] | SavageOne: | there's some nice ones out there |
| [20:14:53] | SavageOne: | maybe collaboration is in order |
| [20:14:59] | reeddler: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWiki |
| [20:15:29] | reeddler: | it's small enough for personal use... where mediawiki is usually an overkill |
| [20:15:38] | SavageOne: | let me say one thing here |
| [20:15:43] | SavageOne: | Wikipedia is the fucking shit |
| [20:15:44] | SavageOne: | end of story |
| [20:15:47] | fryfrog: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Firewire . . . uner_Version |
| [20:15:49] | SavageOne: | that's my 2 cents |
| [20:16:16] | reeddler: | 2 canadian? or us? |
| [20:16:24] | ** juski uploads yet another screenshot ** | |
| [20:16:43] | juski: | this sure beats working |
| [20:16:51] | juski: | http://www.juski.co.uk/new3.png |
| [20:17:01] | fryfrog: | I should re-do that whole page :/ |
| [20:17:17] | fryfrog: | reeddler: you are using firewire, right? any chance you'd try my script? :) |
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| [20:17:59] | opello: | juski: nice images for priorities :) |
| [20:18:06] | reeddler: | lol.. juski I remember you posting new2.png last nite.. so the first thing in AM ... after having my cup of coffee of course... I clicked on my firefox to check if you posted new3 :) ( you can check the logs.. ) |
| [20:18:13] | juski: | I hope that when this theme is done, I don't get tired of it so easily |
| [20:18:24] | reeddler: | fryfrog I already cant wait for the day to be over so I can try adding sleep 2 :) |
| [20:18:33] | juski: | not in terms of supporting it, but in terms of _using_ it ;) |
| [20:18:39] | opello: | heh |
| [20:19:00] | juski: | when I have a couple of themes I like I might even randomise em |
| [20:19:03] | fryfrog: | reeddler: well, you won't *need* to if you use my script! :) |
| [20:19:09] | fryfrog: | anyway, tiem to go home :) |
| [20:19:20] | juski: | oh and be warned.. there will be a xmas-wide theme |
| [20:19:24] | reeddler: | fryfrog : where'r u at? |
| [20:19:37] | fryfrog: | Atlanta, GA |
| [20:19:47] | juski: | and there was me a while ago mutterring 'never again'. I must be bloody mad |
| [20:19:55] | fryfrog: | Friday means "screw you, i'm going home early" plus my tooth hurts :( |
| [20:20:06] | reeddler: | friday means I get beer at work :) |
| [20:20:15] | ** juski had beer at lunchtime ** | |
| [20:20:15] | fryfrog: | nice! |
| [20:20:21] | juski: | just made me want to sleep |
| [20:20:26] | opello: | heh |
| [20:20:26] | fryfrog: | thanks for the <pre> </pre> tip |
| [20:20:30] | ** stuarta had beer on the train ** | |
| [20:20:32] | reeddler: | oh worked.. cool |
| [20:20:41] | juski: | hope it was nice & cold, stuarta |
| [20:20:48] | stuarta: | have just moved onto Jack & Coke :) |
| [20:21:12] | juski: | what's Jim Beam like? getting a bit tired of Jack |
| [20:21:22] | stuarta: | more bourbon like |
| [20:21:31] | stuarta: | bit sweeter |
| [20:21:36] | reeddler: | fryfrog which script .. the frist one? |
| [20:21:42] | juski: | sweeter n' Jack? ye gads |
| [20:21:54] | antiPo5ix: | I am using the lirc_mceusb2 kernel module, I just aquired a serial ir-blaster. Do I need to go compile lirc_serial with the setup.sh program now? |
| [20:21:59] | juski: | might be time to try something more harsh altogether |
| [20:22:01] | stuarta: | well it tastes that way to me... |
| [20:22:15] | stuarta: | Beam is cheap tho :) |
| [20:22:26] | antiPo5ix: | PBR is cheaper |
| [20:22:37] | stuarta: | hmmm, maybe not sweeter, different. |
| [20:22:47] | antiPo5ix: | put sugar in it |
| [20:22:53] | antiPo5ix: | or nutrasweet |
| [20:22:57] | stuarta: | coke = suger :) |
| [20:23:17] | antiPo5ix: | like they do that Mikes Lowcarb Ladies hard Lemonade |
| [20:23:17] | stuarta: | 10g per 100ml |
| [20:23:21] | juski: | yikes I need about another gig of ram |
| [20:23:43] | stuarta: | had that problem once. bought 2G :) |
| [20:24:02] | juski: | 20+ layers of 615x720 in 24-bit colour |
| [20:24:17] | juski: | and transparency |
| [20:24:18] | juski: | oof! |
| [20:24:19] | ** stuarta suspects juski is crazy... ** | |
| [20:24:38] | juski: | makes constructing the watermarks so much easier ;) |
| [20:24:53] | antiPo5ix: | I bought a homebrew ir-blaster. Under lirc's setup.sh program, I chose serial, do I choose [1] With transmitter diode ? |
| [20:25:12] | juski: | antiPo5ix: likely |
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| [20:25:25] | antiPo5ix: | what is the [2] Software generated carrier |
| [20:25:31] | antiPo5ix: | is that for a receiver only? |
| [20:25:39] | ** juski uploads new4.png & new5.png ;) ** | |
| [20:25:49] | juski: | antiPo5ix: you prolly need option 2 too |
| [20:26:08] | juski: | although 'software' might suggest the driver doesn't do it |
| [20:26:17] | juski: | so leave it off for now & try without |
| [20:27:04] | stf58: | I've got a problem to recording with a scheduled program. Some one whant to fix it whit me!?! |
| [20:27:44] | ** stuarta is spending the night watching Species I & II ** | |
| [20:28:07] | juski: | I'm off to watch mythtv, & prolly some chick flick. bye bye JD & cokes.. down the hatch! |
| [20:28:24] | stuarta: | nice idea :) |
| [20:29:02] | juski: | I may resume the theming later & end up with something 'interesting' looking.. i.e. pissed drawings |
| [20:29:30] | antiPo5ix: | or maybe drawing of the future |
| [20:29:33] | antiPo5ix: | like on Heros |
| [20:29:55] | ** stuarta wonders what theme "drunk" would look like... ** | |
| [20:30:26] | stuarta: | stf58: try describing the problem |
| [20:30:37] | antiPo5ix: | most likely a naked picture of a chick that was ripped off google images |
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| [20:44:55] | stf58: | stuarta: I've try to reconding from the tv guide, into the status i've got a "recorder failed". Nothing into the folder. But when i watch live tv i got the file into the folder. When i press "R" to recording the actual tv sow i've got the file to. The probleme is juste with the scheduled program. |
| [20:47:14] | antiPo5ix: | irsend SEND_ONCE SA2000 POWER |
| [20:47:14] | antiPo5ix: | irsend: command failed: SEND_ONCE SA2000 POWER |
| [20:47:14] | antiPo5ix: | irsend: hardware does not support sending |
| [20:47:28] | antiPo5ix: | I think it is refering to my lirc_mceusb2 |
| [20:47:35] | stf58: | stuarta: later i've got a myth 0.18–1 every thing work great. I'have migrate my stuf to a different disk with a different vertion of mytht. I've try the 0.19, 0.20 and a svn 0.21. Exactly the same probleme with a version 0.19+ |
| [20:47:36] | antiPo5ix: | I also have lirc_serial loaded |
| [20:48:00] | stuarta: | stf58: weird... |
| [20:49:46] | antiPo5ix: | anyone have a lirc reciever and a lirc blaster running together? |
| [20:50:51] | r3z: | How well does the ATI Remote Wonder work with Myth? |
| [20:51:00] | stf58: | stuarta: Basicly my OS is a Redhat Enterprise IV with a compiled kernel 2.6.18 and a ivtv 0.8.0 |
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| [20:51:28] | stf58: | stuarta: and a PVR-150 as input device. |
| [20:51:40] | stuarta: | no different to a lot of people... |
| [20:51:54] | antiPo5ix: | I have two remotes listed in lircd.conf my remote control I use and my settop box |
| [20:52:01] | stuarta: | get much in the way of error messages in the backend logfile? |
| [20:52:03] | antiPo5ix: | is this how you do it using both? |
| [20:53:43] | stf58: | stuarta: The only error in the log sais it canot change the the specify channel. It's not a problem, becose i use a satellite reciever |
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| [20:55:27] | stf58: | stuarta: I see your into the mythtv channel. Do you think it's a problem for the developpement people ? |
| [20:56:23] | livingtm: | Anyone have a plextor convertx working with mythtv? Im having a hell of a time with it |
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| [21:00:30] | antiPo5ix: | does a blaster use the lircd daemon |
| [21:00:39] | antiPo5ix: | or only a receiver |
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| [21:04:16] | mirak: | I have a dvb-c, I have the channels list in channels.conf obtained with scan. I am wondering what's the simplest way to bound channels to EPG |
| [21:04:31] | mirak: | what's the correct method ? |
| [21:05:17] | Russ85: | duck tape and gorilla glue |
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| [21:05:58] | xris: | mirak: no xmltv for you? |
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| [21:06:14] | stuarta: | stf57: unlikely |
| [21:06:48] | antiPo5ix: | crap, I had the lirc_mceusb2 working, since trying to get lirc_serial to work with it I broke both. Now I cant even revert back to how it used to be |
| [21:07:32] | stuarta: | mirak: scanning the transports will populate the appropriate information. |
| [21:08:08] | reeddler: | antiPo5ix: restore your configs from the backup copy |
| [21:08:59] | mirak: | xris: what is it ? |
| [21:09:15] | mirak: | stuarta: problem is I can't find the initial transpondeur |
| [21:09:20] | mirak: | -u |
| [21:09:30] | mirak: | it doesn't crawl everything |
| [21:09:42] | antiPo5ix: | reeddler: i did |
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| [21:09:56] | antiPo5ix: | and I rmmod'd all lirc stuff |
| [21:10:05] | antiPo5ix: | and HUP'd the lircd |
| [21:10:05] | stuarta: | mirak: you should have transports after the channels.conf import.... |
| [21:10:33] | mirak: | stuarta: ah |
| [21:10:35] | antiPo5ix: | wel, I HUP'd the lircd after I re-modprobed the lirc_mceusb2 |
| [21:10:48] | mirak: | stuarta: but how happens the bouding to epg ? |
| [21:11:03] | xris: | mirak: xmltv? it's what you need to get tv listings into mythtv |
| [21:11:46] | reeddler: | Russ85 : duck tape? |
| [21:11:48] | mirak: | xris: xmltv is what download from console ? |
| [21:11:55] | xris: | mirak: huh? |
| [21:11:56] | stuarta: | mirak: there are 2 bits of information missing from channels.conf that allow over the air EPG to work |
| [21:12:02] | mirak: | reeddler: why is it called "duck tape" ? why duck ? |
| [21:12:09] | reeddler: | duct |
| [21:12:18] | reeddler: | he called it duck tape :) |
| [21:12:19] | mirak: | lol |
| [21:12:37] | stuarta: | some of us call it gaffa tape |
| [21:12:46] | antiPo5ix: | chicken tape just doesnt sound all that tough |
| [21:12:55] | antiPo5ix: | foul tape? |
| [21:13:06] | reeddler: | ducks use it to tape their butts tight waterproof when they go for a long swim |
| [21:13:10] | antiPo5ix: | poultry tape |
| [21:13:17] | Russ85: | actually, the true brand's name is "duck tape" |
| [21:13:18] | reeddler: | btw.. there's gorilla tape |
| [21:13:21] | Russ85: | i dont buy generic |
| [21:13:21] | Russ85: | ;) |
| [21:13:21] | stuarta: | duct tape is like the force. it has a light side, a dark side, and it binds the universe together.... |
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| [21:14:28] | antiPo5ix: | did you know "duck tape" is mentioned by name in the Bible |
| [21:14:43] | stuarta: | mwahahaha |
| [21:14:44] | reeddler: | where |
| [21:15:17] | antiPo5ix: | not sure, but I'm pretty sure Jesus used it frequently to fixed those cheapo sandles him and his diciples wore |
| [21:15:36] | reeddler: | flip-flops |
| [21:15:50] | stuarta: | they are called thongs... |
| [21:16:13] | antiPo5ix: | I love that word |
| [21:16:20] | antiPo5ix: | .....flip-flops |
| [21:16:49] | stuarta: | in australia, thongs = flip flops. in uk, thongs = g-string :) |
| [21:17:35] | antiPo5ix: | in the US, Democrats = flipflops and Republicans = g-strings |
| [21:17:46] | antiPo5ix: | barely covering their asses |
| [21:17:51] | ** stuarta rofl... ** | |
| [21:18:17] | antiPo5ix: | the pause between those two lines was me thinking of a joke |
| [21:18:27] | stuarta: | :) |
| [21:18:29] | antiPo5ix: | I'm proud of the one I came up with :) |
| [21:18:50] | antiPo5ix: | I nearly had to /part when after 20 seconds I had nothing |
| [21:19:19] | antiPo5ix: | who here realizes this is the "Best Day Ever" ? |
| [21:20:05] | stuarta: | hmmm. Species I & II, double dose of natasha henstridge.... i'll agree.... |
| [21:20:30] | antiPo5ix: | I was refering to "best day ever" on Nick |
| [21:20:49] | ** stuarta is Nick -less ** | |
| [21:20:55] | antiPo5ix: | cursed little 4 year old pwns my mythtv |
| [21:21:15] | antiPo5ix: | all my myth are belong to him |
| [21:22:01] | ** stuarta goes for 1.25x timestretch ** | |
| [21:22:36] | ** antiPo5ix goes to the pharm for some pain meds ** | |
| [21:23:05] | ** stuarta suggests alcohol... ** | |
| [21:23:25] | antiPo5ix: | I will most likely combine the med with alcohol when I get back |
| [21:23:54] | antiPo5ix: | need to keep my senses ya know, nothing like being a responsible parent ;) |
| [21:24:08] | antiPo5ix: | med makes me loopy, booze takes the edge off |
| [21:24:14] | antiPo5ix: | they kinda go hand-in-hand |
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| [21:24:19] | ** stuarta is neither responsible nor parent. ** | |
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| [21:27:39] | mirak: | "MythTV IR Blaster – www.irblaster.info – Professionally built and tested IR Blaster for MythTV $12" |
| [21:27:48] | mirak: | that's an add from gmail |
| [21:27:51] | mirak: | ad |
| [21:28:45] | mirak: | I mean a google advertising |
| [21:28:48] | mirak: | not a mail |
| [21:29:14] | kormoc: | meh, it's just someone who bought an ad |
| [21:32:01] | reeddler: | http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/5a20/ <= $29 ... took me more time to take it out of the box then to set it up... |
| [21:32:40] | kormoc: | I really like my mceusb remote personally |
| [21:33:31] | jams: | reeddler- the streamzap is a good remote. I recommend it alot. |
| [21:34:42] | RyeBrye3: | So MythBackend will build and run on OS X now? |
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| [21:41:51] | psofa: | any tool that automates: 1)ripping main movie of dvd to hd 2)splitting to 2 dvd's and burning? |
| [21:42:11] | russK: | My recordings don't show up in the Media Library but they do get recorded — where should I look to fix this? |
| [21:42:27] | RyeBrye3: | live tv recordings? |
| [21:42:43] | RyeBrye3: | Which part of the media library are you looking for them in? Video? |
| [21:42:54] | RyeBrye3: | because that's for other video sources like ripped DVD's... etc. |
| [21:43:20] | squish102: | how do i take what i have recorded and make it a divx? a) nuvexport b) some other way |
| [21:45:21] | squish102: | i'm looking for the b) answer as nuvexport degmentation faults in ffmpeg |
| [21:46:54] | fryfrog: | wtf, my nforce4 gige network card isn't showing up as 1000mbit anymore :/ |
| [21:47:15] | fryfrog: | stupid forceware update :/ |
| [21:48:27] | mirak: | does mythtv handle flac ogg etcetera ? |
| [21:49:51] | reeddler: | psofa i'm not sure if it has that feature, but check mytharchive |
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| [21:53:21] | russK: | My live-tv viewing sessions do show up in the Media Library ... but no scheduled recordings do |
| [21:54:05] | juski: | any minimyth users in tonight? apart from me I mean? |
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| [21:54:23] | Axsuul: | anyone using mythtv w/ directv |
| [21:55:10] | juski: | got a really strange problem playing back some recordings (ones with audo description) – with xvmc enabled they're a bit stuttery on my ickle epia box :( |
| [21:55:58] | stuarta: | maybe cause the time code comes from the audio stream? |
| [21:56:33] | juski: | tried 'use video as timebase' – still the same |
| [21:56:36] | fryfrog: | oh, i guess the options just changed. now there is an "autonegotiate 1000FD" option |
| [21:56:39] | psofa: | reeddler, well it seems it cant split the resulting dvd nor rip a dvd...... |
| [21:56:40] | juski: | and extra audio bufferring |
| [21:56:59] | juski: | and top shows playback using only25% CPU |
| [21:57:17] | psofa: | juski, hey! that nightmare is mine! get outa here! |
| [21:57:34] | juski: | in minimyth? |
| [21:57:48] | juski: | maybe the issue is with via xvmc then |
| [21:57:51] | psofa: | juski, no just regular myth :) |
| [21:58:00] | stuarta: | my guess is there is some weird arse underlying issue that causes all the prebuff pauses... |
| [21:58:32] | juski: | I'll try upgrading to the latest tomorrow & see if that helps. technically I shouldn't even be using this one ;) |
| [21:59:10] | psofa: | ive observed that when myth wants to write the new audio to the buffer it has to wait approx 200msec to write it because it says it has not enough space |
| [21:59:18] | juski: | I can stand to watch it without deinterlacing pretty much |
| [22:00:05] | juski: | plenty of ram free so it's not that either |
| [22:00:28] | psofa: | i suppose 200msec meens fluidity of 5frames/sec :P |
| [22:01:43] | psofa: | i can see the laginess in both fixes and trunk |
| [22:01:44] | juski: | I find it plays a few seconds then glitches for wait for it.. about 1/5th of a sec... about 200msec |
| [22:02:23] | juski: | maybe if there was a patch to just chuck the 2nd audio stream away... |
| [22:02:36] | juski: | optionally of course ;) |
| [22:02:43] | psofa: | beeing a noob if i had to guess id guess its a sound issue |
| [22:03:00] | stuarta: | juski: you can do that with ffmpeg |
| [22:03:18] | juski: | the OSD menu.. can I edit an xml file to remove the billions of options that are there since 0.20 ? |
| [22:03:27] | psofa: | because it doesnt prebuff pause only if i enable the extra audio buffering |
| [22:03:48] | juski: | stuarta: bit of a pain to have to do that, but it'll be worth a go |
| [22:04:12] | stuarta: | be interesting to try.... |
| [22:04:48] | psofa: | juski, have you tried the oss emulation instead of alsa? |
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| [22:05:19] | juski: | psofa: I kept all my frontend settings from 0.19, so there should be no change |
| [22:05:52] | psofa: | err okay but if it works ok with oss then we would know if its indeed alsa's fault |
| [22:05:53] | juski: | aww bugger I can't just snip all the extraneous menu items out |
| [22:05:57] | juski: | booo! |
| [22:07:17] | juski: | I can see me doing my own custom patching |
| [22:07:59] | Axsuul: | anyone using directv with mythtv? |
| [22:09:08] | juski: | if I can't fix the gappy playback I might roll back. debugging on my epia box is gonna be impossible – ready-rolled distro, can't build it on any of my systems here, yada yada |
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| [22:16:07] | stadanko: | can anyone help me with a weird slave problem? |
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| [22:19:06] | xris: | Axsuul: I used to use dishnet. same concept |
| [22:20:41] | stadanko: | it keeps trying to connect to localhost instead of the MBE. |
| [22:21:14] | stadanko: | I have checked all mysql.txt files on the slave (with find / -name "mysql.txt) and edited them all with the proper IP |
| [22:23:14] | charlieS: | just configure it in the frontend general settings... |
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| [22:25:54] | stadanko: | the frontend works fine. its the slave backend that wont connect to the master. the log files indicate it is trying to connect to its own IP (192.168.1.x) on startup. |
| [22:26:48] | Axsuul: | xris: whats the connection, coaxial? |
| [22:27:17] | xris: | Axsuul: svideo |
| [22:27:40] | xris: | if by coax, you meant to say "rf connector", you can't do that with satellite tv in the US. |
| [22:27:49] | fryfrog: | stadanko: make sure in "mythtv-setup" under general it is pointed to your master |
| [22:28:20] | stadanko: | frydog: thanks....i did but its still pulling the IP address.... |
| [22:28:23] | fryfrog: | xris: well, if your sat *box* has a coax out (ie, tune your tv channel to 3 to see picture) you could do that... but that isn't what you are talking about i'm sure |
| [22:28:53] | fryfrog: | stadanko: wait, *what* is trying to hit the localbox? is it something about "db" or "backend"? |
| [22:29:09] | xris: | fryfrog: true. but that would just be stupid, then, unless your tv card was whacked and didn't have composite or svideo inputs |
| [22:29:12] | fryfrog: | cause the slave be *first* has to hit your mysql server, *then* it pulls the master be's ip from there |
| [22:29:23] | fryfrog: | xris: true, quite stupid |
| [22:29:43] | stadanko: | when I run /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend on the slave it is trying to connect to its own IP instead of the IP of the master |
| [22:29:45] | fryfrog: | Do satalite providers have the same "working firewire" requirement that cable providers do? My guess is "no" ? |
| [22:30:00] | fryfrog: | stadanko: okay, but what is the *context* of that failure |
| [22:30:20] | fryfrog: | stadanko: it will spit out information, you should be able to tell if it is failing to connect to the db or the actual backend |
| [22:30:38] | Axsuul: | ok thanks xris |
| [22:30:43] | fryfrog: | stadanko: try running the backend with "-v important" (manually, or how ever your distro controls it) |
| [22:31:09] | Axsuul: | xris: so what was your setup, you just connected the satelite receiver to the linux box, and used the tv as display for the linux box? |
| [22:31:09] | xris: | Axsuul: sucks, but that's how it is. |
| [22:31:16] | stadanko: | frydog: mythbackend -v all |
| [22:31:16] | stadanko: | 2006-11–10 16:31:01.204 Using runtime prefix = /usr |
| [22:31:17] | stadanko: | 2006-11–10 16:31:01.266 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [22:31:17] | stadanko: | 2006-11–10 16:31:01.365 Unable to connect to database! |
| [22:31:17] | stadanko: | 2006-11–10 16:31:01.365 Driver error was [1/1045]: |
| [22:31:18] | stadanko: | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| [22:31:19] | stadanko: | Database error was: |
| [22:31:21] | stadanko: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'192.168.1.94' (using password: YES) |
| [22:31:23] | stadanko: | QSqlQuery::exec: database not open |
| [22:31:25] | stadanko: | QSqlQuery::exec: database not open |
| [22:31:27] | stadanko: | 2006-11–10 16:31:01.533 DB Error (KickDatabase): |
| [22:31:29] | stadanko: | Query was: |
| [22:31:31] | stadanko: | SELECT NULL; |
| [22:31:32] | xris: | stadanko: please use pastebin |
| [22:31:33] | stadanko: | No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
| [22:31:35] | stadanko: | 2006-11–10 16:31:01.589 Failed to init MythContext, exiting. |
| [22:31:52] | stadanko: | frydog: doh sorry about that. i meant to paste one line |
| [22:32:00] | ** stuarta puts his fingers in his ears. ** | |
| [22:34:00] | psofa: | juski, does the frontend say it did prebuffering pause? |
| [22:34:07] | xris: | Axsuul: receiver -> mythtv -> tv, plus mythtv -> irblaster -> receiver |
| [22:34:27] | xris: | I don't actually use mythtv to watch tv.. only recordings. |
| [22:34:31] | Axsuul: | xris: what is irblaster? |
| [22:34:40] | xris: | Axsuul: irblaster.info |
| [22:34:44] | xris: | you need it to control the receiver |
| [22:34:55] | Axsuul: | xris: oh, how come you dont use mythtv to watch tv |
| [22:35:10] | xris: | Axsuul: if I'm watching live tv, it's easier to just watch live tv |
| [22:35:17] | fryfrog: | stadanko: your mythbackend is failing to get to your db, and my name is "fryfrog" not "frydog" :) |
| [22:35:25] | fryfrog: | stadanko: your "mysql.txt" file is probably wrong |
| [22:36:07] | psofa: | juski, try libmpeg2 |
| [22:36:08] | Axsuul: | xris: ah, ok , thanks |
| [22:36:22] | stadanko: | frydog: checked all of them, even did a find / .... they all have the correct IP |
| [22:36:25] | psofa: | i have the impression its really better |
| [22:37:01] | xris: | Axsuul: only reason I could think of for wanting time shifting during live tv would be for sports, and I don't watch sports. |
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| [22:39:23] | wireddd: | I have a couple of catv modulators, and I was wondering, if I just fed it into the catv wall jack in my apartment, do you think it would broadcast it to all of my neighbors? |
| [22:39:30] | mirak: | hem mythmusic is really bad to choose music ... |
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| [22:40:40] | stuarta: | pain in the arse i'd say... |
| [22:40:47] | fryfrog: | stadanko: paste your out put into pastebin.ca |
| [22:40:55] | fryfrog: | stadanko: and my name is FRYFROG damnit! |
| [22:41:14] | stadanko: | sh*t...lol sorry fryfrog |
| [22:41:28] | ** stuarta contemplates a frydog' sandwitch.... ** | |
| [22:41:34] | mirak: | duh I made it crash because I added inadvertently all my library to the playlist ... |
| [22:42:07] | mirak: | why do you say arse ? |
| [22:42:12] | mirak: | what's an arse ? |
| [22:42:18] | fryfrog: | arse == ass |
| [22:42:23] | fryfrog: | ass == behind |
| [22:42:28] | fryfrog: | behind == tush |
| [22:42:31] | xris: | fryfrog: ass == donkey |
| [22:42:33] | fryfrog: | tush == butt? |
| [22:42:35] | stadanko: | fryfrog: http://pastebin.ca/245380 |
| [22:43:01] | stuarta: | also known as pile of shit. |
| [22:43:33] | fryfrog: | stadanko: is 192.168.1.94 the ip of your *mysql* server? |
| [22:44:14] | fryfrog: | (its also likely to be the IP of your master be) |
| [22:44:18] | stadanko: | fryfrog: no its the IP of the slave where I am try to run the myth-backend |
| [22:44:36] | fryfrog: | okay, then somewhere there is a mysql.txt that is still pointing to that ip |
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| [22:45:49] | stadanko: | fryfrog: i did a find / -name "mysql.txt" it returned six files. I edited them all and put the correct ip in. rechecked it 3 times. |
| [22:46:23] | fryfrog: | i dunno what to tell ya, but some how you must have missed one :) |
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| [22:46:56] | stadanko: | fryfrog: thanks, i may just reinstall |
| [22:47:03] | mirak: | I can't edit the player command line from playing list ? |
| [22:47:05] | fryfrog: | i doubt that will help :( |
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| [22:47:33] | fryfrog: | maybe you could examine the output of "-v help" and see if there is an output that will give you more detail |
| [22:47:48] | fryfrog: | to tell you *which* mysql.txt file it is reading |
| [22:48:23] | fryfrog: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'192.168.1.94' (using password: YES) |
| [22:48:28] | fryfrog: | I'm sure you saw that line :) |
| [22:48:31] | fryfrog: | but that is your problem |
| [22:48:45] | fryfrog: | maybe mythbackend has a --option to specify the mysql server? |
| [22:49:22] | fryfrog: | no, looks like you need to look at "-v help" and find one that provides detail about which mysql.txt file you are reading |
| [22:49:26] | fryfrog: | what distro you use? |
| [22:49:26] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [22:49:28] | fryfrog: | shitskises |
| [22:49:33] | fryfrog: | i been talking to my stupid self |
| [22:50:24] | kormoc: | that takes talent |
| [22:50:28] | Sedorox: | lol |
| [22:50:40] | fryfrog: | I have talent, so much that it is flowing from my socks :/ |
| [22:50:47] | fryfrog: | now shut your fingers :p |
| [22:52:02] | juski: | psofa: libmpeg isn't an option. need xvmc. and besides it was always fine in 0.19 :) |
| [22:52:16] | juski: | I ain't budgin' for no software hangups |
| [22:52:37] | psofa: | juski, maybe my eyes are tired but libmpeg seems to have resolved the issue for me |
| [22:53:00] | juski: | with a 1ghz CPU, libmpeg might be a bit too thirsty |
| [22:55:37] | juski: | should diff work on binary files? |
| [22:56:29] | juski: | yes.. oops |
| [22:56:39] | psofa: | imho it should but a small source change can make a binary really different right? |
| [22:56:52] | kormoc: | yes, it could |
| [22:56:53] | stuarta: | it does, but it won't tell you what is different... |
| [22:57:01] | juski: | the files differ, & that's enough for me |
| [22:57:13] | juski: | just proving I'm not already using the latest minimyth rootfs :) |
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| [22:58:15] | juski: | I love the way you upgrade minimyth.. copy a kernel & rootfs over |
| [22:58:22] | juski: | will try it later |
| [22:58:31] | psofa: | btw i get those errors: OSDImgCache, Error: Creating osdcache file failed. |
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| [23:02:52] | psofa: | wow fluidity just got a new meaning |
| [23:03:07] | psofa: | if theres such word :P |
| [23:05:08] | stuarta: | 50% chance of that being a word |
| [23:06:06] | kormoc: | http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+fluidity |
| [23:06:32] | psofa: | ^^ |
| [23:09:35] | stuarta: | hey i was guessing! |
| [23:10:30] | stuarta: | dammit, why does no email turn up when i'm testing new mail filtering.... |
| [23:11:54] | psofa: | anyone knows where are osd cache files created? maybe its a permissions problem |
| [23:14:23] | stuarta: | nope, but i'd guess some where in the home dir.... |
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| [23:22:52] | defaultro: | fryfrog? I need your help |
| [23:27:20] | dhr: | my myth box has lost all knowledge of the local channels. I'm using zap2it. It worked for weeks. Last night I did something and now the channel lineup is curdled. Most are now called "Adding Channel X" (where X is the channel number). What can cause this? How can I fix it? |
| [23:28:27] | dhr: | Where is the lineup stored? Is it a file or something in a mysql database? |
| [23:30:26] | defaultro: | anyone here uses firewire? |
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| [23:33:39] | defaultro: | dhr, it's in mysql |
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| [23:36:52] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: well sort of :) |
| [23:37:06] | SlicerDicer-: | I have issues with firewire as I moved but what do you need? |
| [23:37:31] | SlicerDicer-: | I am well on my way to getting them resolved though :) |
| [23:38:34] | fysa: | Anyone here have experience with reiserfs on >1TB filesystems? |
| [23:40:19] | SlicerDicer-: | nope I use JFS for mythtv as it deletes giant files quickly :) |
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| [23:40:43] | defaultro: | Hi SlicerDicer |
| [23:40:56] | SlicerDicer-: | hello defaultro |
| [23:40:56] | defaultro: | please look at this, http://pastebin.ca/245412 |
| [23:41:04] | SlicerDicer-: | looking |
| [23:41:08] | defaultro: | thanks |
| [23:41:24] | defaultro: | i don't know why it's pointing to node 1 but i have it at 2 in mythtv-setup |
| [23:42:01] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: delete all tuner cards |
| [23:42:03] | SlicerDicer-: | and redo them |
| [23:42:06] | SlicerDicer-: | I had to do that once |
| [23:42:19] | SlicerDicer-: | or delete all firewire tuner cards anyway |
| [23:42:21] | fysa: | SlicerDicer-: How big is your media partition? |
| [23:42:25] | SlicerDicer-: | if you have say a PVR150 then leave it |
| [23:42:33] | SlicerDicer-: | fysa: HUGE like Gorilla ;-) |
| [23:42:57] | defaultro: | why? |
| [23:43:03] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: hell if I know |
| [23:43:10] | SlicerDicer-: | but I did have it jamming on the wrong nodes |
| [23:43:21] | defaultro: | i noticed it wasn't sending the node |
| [23:43:32] | defaultro: | it was only sending the channel |
| [23:43:53] | defaultro: | i found out about this when i renamed 6200ch and created my own |
| [23:43:54] | SlicerDicer-: | fysa: or is that huge like Guerrilla? btw 10 points of you can tell me the movie :) |
| [23:44:07] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh defaultro your using 6200ch trying to do this? |
| [23:44:12] | defaultro: | yes |
| [23:44:14] | SlicerDicer-: | and 6200ch is throwing the error? |
| [23:44:21] | SlicerDicer-: | or the cablebox is? |
| [23:44:26] | SlicerDicer-: | errr capture |
| [23:44:27] | SlicerDicer-: | rather |
| [23:44:27] | defaultro: | if i do it manualy, no erro |
| [23:44:31] | defaultro: | error |
| [23:44:41] | defaultro: | i have to do it this way though, 6200ch -n 2 188 |
| [23:44:43] | SlicerDicer-: | as in change the channel manually? |
| [23:44:47] | defaultro: | yes |
| [23:44:48] | defaultro: | it works |
| [23:44:53] | defaultro: | because it's in node 2 |
| [23:45:02] | defaultro: | without -n 2, it will fail |
| [23:45:04] | juski: | sooooo .. with timestretch at 1.1 playback is A ok (w t f?!) |
| [23:45:04] | fysa: | I'm using jfs on a 1.7tb partition and the write speeds on new files have been very poor lately. |
| [23:45:14] | defaultro: | which i think, myth is not passing to 6200 |
| [23:45:24] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: nano 6200ch about 3–4 pagedowns you will find the node settings compile it with node 2 default and bam away to go :) |
| [23:45:33] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: let me find the actual line number |
| [23:45:33] | defaultro: | it's binary |
| [23:45:40] | SlicerDicer-: | make your own 6200ch |
| [23:45:49] | defaultro: | ah, recompile you mean? |
| [23:45:54] | SlicerDicer-: | indeed |
| [23:45:57] | defaultro: | cool ;) |
| [23:45:59] | juski: | libmpeg2 doesnt work at all, 'standard' is like 5fps, 'standard xvmc' gives me weird colours... tried every playback setting going.. use opengl vsync really slows it down |
| [23:46:08] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: I do it :) |
| [23:46:11] | SlicerDicer-: | thats how I got mine working |
| [23:46:17] | SlicerDicer-: | aussie00 |
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| [23:46:31] | defaultro: | #define STARTING_NODE 1 |
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| [23:46:41] | SlicerDicer-: | bleh wrong button |
| [23:46:47] | defaultro: | i guess, that's what you mean |
| [23:46:48] | defaultro: | #define STARTING_NODE 1 |
| [23:46:50] | juski: | oi shuddup I'm trying to get my issues sorted out |
| [23:46:51] | juski: | ;) |
| [23:46:53] | SlicerDicer-: | indeed defaultro |
| [23:47:00] | fysa: | juski: is X11 going to 100% CPU usage? |
| [23:47:01] | SlicerDicer-: | that will set your node to 2 |
| [23:47:05] | fysa: | while playing? |
| [23:47:05] | juski: | fysa: nope |
| [23:47:07] | SlicerDicer-: | set your node to 2 and your good to go |
| [23:47:08] | SlicerDicer-: | no problems |
| [23:47:12] | SlicerDicer-: | at least should not be |
| [23:47:14] | juski: | 25% CPU usage, tops |
| [23:47:23] | fysa: | dedicated fe? |
| [23:47:27] | juski: | I think the issue is the video drivers |
| [23:47:43] | juski: | fysa: minimyth |
| [23:47:49] | fysa: | which are you using for video? |
| [23:48:01] | defaultro: | it's working |
| [23:48:10] | defaultro: | my wife got mad though, I forgot she was watching something |
| [23:48:11] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
| [23:48:11] | juski: | dvb-t recordings, and only the ones with a (blank) 2nd audio track give me grief |
| [23:48:21] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: shit happens lol |
| [23:48:22] | fysa: | sorry, I mean for video out ;) |
| [23:48:40] | Leebier: | anyone around who could help figure out how/why lirc is doing horrible horrible things to ivtv causing the system to freeze hard? |
| [23:48:45] | juski: | so I think I might be able to run a post-record job & strip the extra (useless) audio track & see where that gets me |
| [23:48:59] | fysa: | Can you set it to only use PS instead of TS? |
| [23:49:32] | juski: | fysa: with a db hack, but the TS recording thing _solved_ this same issue about 18 months ago |
| [23:49:49] | defaultro: | SlicerDiver, thanks for the idea |
| [23:49:59] | SlicerDicer-: | yep defaultro no problem |
| [23:50:10] | SlicerDicer-: | damn it |
| [23:50:22] | SlicerDicer-: | I hate gnome sometimes |
| [23:50:27] | juski: | I'm pretty pissed off right now. there I was a few weeks ago extolling the virtues of mythtv to all & sundry & then this comes up |
| [23:50:34] | defaultro: | i still envy you though because most of your channels are sent in clear. DAMN chicago |
| [23:50:39] | fysa: | Have you tried selecting an audio stream specifically after viewing starts? |
| [23:50:42] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: I moved |
| [23:50:50] | defaultro: | so encrypted now? |
| [23:50:54] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: there is random buckshot 5c |
| [23:50:56] | SlicerDicer-: | brb |
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| [23:51:03] | juski: | oh yeah that's the other thing. when I select the blank 2nd audio track the video plays juuust fine :( |
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| [23:52:04] | SlicerDicer-: | there lol |
| [23:52:09] | juski: | so it might even be shite in the 'good' audio stream |
| [23:52:31] | juski: | why can't stuff just stay the bloody same? 0.19 was fantastic? |
| [23:52:35] | juski: | :) |
| [23:52:42] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: X taking a crap always suck |
| [23:52:46] | fysa: | is it AC3 audio? |
| [23:52:57] | juski: | no, mpeg1 layer 2 like all UK dvb-t audio is |
| [23:53:25] | juski: | I wonder if this has got anything to do with me enabling EIT the other day |
| [23:53:31] | stuarta: | juski: blank 2nd track? that might be the problem.... |
| [23:53:36] | juski: | it _shouldn't_ affect recordings |
| [23:53:53] | juski: | stuarta: never heard anything of use in the audio desc. track |
| [23:53:57] | stuarta: | not related to EIT imho... |
| [23:54:01] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: if the nodes change just recompile :) |
| [23:54:03] | fysa: | What happens if you enable the record profile option to remove interactive data? |
| [23:54:11] | juski: | the wha? |
| [23:54:21] | juski: | there's an option for _that_ ? |
| [23:54:29] | wreckage: | I had audio with my mythtv, but no audio with mythvideo when playing video files. I recently hooked my pvr350 into my soundcard. I now have audio when playing divx movies, but no audio on livetv, any ideas? |
| [23:54:32] | stuarta: | juski: i have. "woman standing on top of stairs, holding aloft a flaming torch...." |
| [23:54:32] | fysa: | That's something that just showed up for me I think. |
| [23:54:43] | fysa: | in Settings, for the DVB card.. there was some new stuff. |
| [23:54:54] | fysa: | TV/Recording Profiles or something.. |
| [23:55:00] | juski: | but then I'd not be able to get radio recordings to work would I? |
| [23:55:05] | fysa: | where it would only save audio/video/subtitles |
| [23:55:15] | fysa: | well, see if that makes any difference first.. |
| [23:55:22] | fysa: | then you could always add a second profile for radio recordings. |
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| [23:55:27] | juski: | and what about my other recordings? |
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| [23:55:41] | juski: | the ones that don't play back properly? fix em with ffmpeg? |
| [23:55:55] | fysa: | you're getting ahead of yourself, I think ;) |
| [23:56:04] | fysa: | see if there's anything there that makes a difference first ;) |
| [23:56:40] | juski: | ok.. default rec. profile changed to 'tv only' |
| [23:56:55] | juski: | time to make a test recording I guess |
| [23:57:20] | wreckage: | I had audio with my mythtv using pvr350 audio out, but no audio with mythvideo when playing mythvideo divx/xvid files. I recently hooked my pvr350 into my soundcard. I now have audio when playing divx movies, but no audio on livetv, any ideas? |
| [23:57:26] | fysa: | that's the only option I have in there for my DVB card now.. |
| [23:57:40] | fysa: | I thought I used to have a PS/TS option.. |
| [23:57:43] | defaultro: | SlicerDicer? |
| [23:57:43] | fysa: | maybe I'm losing my mind. |
| [23:58:02] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: the nodes sometimes change |
| [23:58:03] | juski: | fysa: it used to be in the card setup section in mythtv-setup in 'advanced' |
| [23:58:06] | fysa: | ah |
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| [23:58:14] | defaultro: | Slicer, http://pastebin.ca/245432 |
| [23:58:14] | fysa: | that's right |
| [23:58:14] | juski: | fysa: it was removed & the default set to TS only |
| [23:58:42] | juski: | if I'd known I could've chucked the fucking useless red button shit out earlier I'd already be doing so |
| [23:58:56] | fysa: | haha |
| [23:59:07] | fysa: | there is another option in Playback or something to disable Interactive TV. |
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| [23:59:17] | defaultro: | SlicerDicer, myth did change the channel |
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| [23:59:27] | juski: | the "do you want to become seriously fucking annoyed by extra graphics on your recordings?" |
| [23:59:33] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: the node will change from time to time |
| [23:59:46] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro: if the cable company decides to reset your box |
| [23:59:49] | SlicerDicer-: | it will change |
| [23:59:51] | defaultro: | SlicerDicer, but it still works on node 2 |
| [23:59:57] | defaultro: | it was able to change the channel |
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