| Monday, November 6th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:48] | xris: | riddlebox: fix the permissions? |
| [00:00:52] | defend: | chmod -R www-data |
| [00:01:02] | defend: | chown-R www-data |
| [00:01:04] | Joffray: | http://www.oldskools.org/search.png |
| [00:01:11] | defend: | blah u get the point :p |
| [00:01:18] | Joffray: | that seems like it could be simplified |
| [00:01:28] | xris: | riddlebox: there is a directory called data/ that needs to be writable by your apache user. |
| [00:01:43] | xris: | Joffray: sort by title |
| [00:01:49] | Joffray: | right, I know |
| [00:02:16] | Joffray: | but it seems that the default is more verbose than needed |
| [00:02:22] | xris: | eventually, the extraneous showtimes in airdate mode will go into a popup |
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| [00:07:03] | riddlebox: | xris, how would I do that? |
| [00:07:24] | xris: | riddlebox: huh? depends on your path. |
| [00:07:44] | xris: | on my system, it'd be something like `chown apache /var/www/html/data` |
| [00:07:53] | riddlebox: | xris, ohh ok |
| [00:08:00] | xris: | on yours, it'd likely be something like `chown www-data /var/www/html/mythweb/data` |
| [00:08:15] | riddlebox: | nope it is /var/www/mythweb/data |
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| [00:08:28] | xris: | "something like".. :) |
| [00:09:29] | riddlebox: | hrmm it says apache is an invalid user |
| [00:09:41] | xris: | yeah. it's probably www-data on your system |
| [00:09:50] | riddlebox: | ahh ok |
| [00:10:00] | riddlebox: | sweet thanks |
| [00:10:02] | xris: | I was only off by 5 chars in my "something like".. |
| [00:10:17] | nomin: | I have my .nuv files stored on a separate partition than my installation. If I reinstall my OS I should still be able to view my stored videos, correct? Also, can I have multiple distros on one PC share the same directory for saved videos? |
| [00:10:24] | riddlebox: | now my system is totally up |
| [00:10:37] | xris: | nomin: don't forget to back up your database |
| [00:11:18] | nomin: | xris: you mean mysql? |
| [00:11:30] | nomin: | xris: what do you mean? |
| [00:11:36] | xris: | nomin: well, /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg (or whatever it is on your system) |
| [00:11:59] | xris: | all of the info about the recordings is stored in the db.. |
| [00:12:24] | nomin: | xris: can I still watch all the videos if I don't back up the database? |
| [00:12:37] | xris: | nomin: you'd lose titles, etc. |
| [00:13:13] | nomin: | xris: are you referring to the info that mythfilldatabase gives? |
| [00:13:20] | xris: | some, yes. |
| [00:13:41] | xris: | other stuff like commercial flag/cut lists, watch-flag, autoexpire settings, etc., no |
| [00:15:10] | xris: | it's a pain to have to re-import shows into the db because you'd lose all of that info. |
| [00:15:52] | nomin: | I have already moved my video files to another directory on a different partition and they all play just fine. Btw, I haven't done 'mythfilldatabase' yet in order to get the info about tv shows and schedules. |
| [00:17:17] | xris: | nomin: as long as you update the db, you'll be fine. I was just warning you that you'd lose all of that info about your recordings if you just blew away the db and reinstalled your OS. |
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| [00:17:33] | xris: | the mfdb stuff only matters for future shows, not for recordings. |
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| [00:18:57] | nomin: | xris: would I just copy everything in the mythconverg directory and paste it into the new mythconverg directory after I do a reinstall? |
| [00:19:48] | xris: | nomin: personally, I'd just copy over the whole mysql directory so you get permissions, too |
| [00:20:23] | xris: | that'll also help if you change mysql versions, since it'll be able to better detect if it needs to upgrade any of the file formats. |
| [00:27:23] | nomin: | xris: I have 2 linux OS's on my pc. Only one of them has mythtv on it. If I were to install mythtv on the other distro, would I still be able to watch the videos recorded with the first distro? |
| [00:31:27] | nomin: | btw, I'm not very technical when it comes to this mythtv stuff. I'm just a schmuck who managed to get mythtv to work. |
| [00:33:02] | Joffray: | well |
| [00:33:02] | Joffray: | you could, but it would be tricky |
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| [00:36:43] | nomin: | Joffray: so saving videos stored with mythtv requires more than just the .nuv files? I figured this was the case because I moved all of my stored files to a different partition and I can watch them just fine. |
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| [00:37:02] | Joffray: | well you can watch them fine |
| [00:37:12] | Joffray: | but to export all the data |
| [00:37:16] | Joffray: | and import it into the other one |
| [00:37:22] | Joffray: | would be tricky, I'd imagine |
| [00:38:16] | nomin: | ok, because I don't have much useful data with them anyways. I haven't set up the stuff from that website that gives us the info about the programs. |
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| [00:38:36] | nomin: | for now, just watching what I recorded is fine with me. |
| [00:38:40] | xris: | nomin: the better question is how/why are you running two separate distros on the same box? |
| [00:39:03] | nomin: | xris: because I'm still learning linux stuff. |
| [00:39:33] | xris: | you're best off running the db on a separate machine and then your mythtv installs wouldn't conflict |
| [00:39:33] | jacaru: | Hi, is there anyway to sequence through channels with channel up/channel down without having to hit ok on each channel to make it actually change the channel? |
| [00:39:52] | xris: | jacaru: generally, the channelup and channeldown keys work for that. |
| [00:39:58] | xris: | up/down arrow by default, I think |
| [00:40:38] | Joffray: | lol, this was a google ad on a page I was just reading: |
| [00:40:40] | Joffray: | MythTV is a lot of work |
| [00:40:40] | Joffray: | SnapStream Beyond TV is easy PC Magazine Editor's Choice, 4/2004 |
| [00:41:10] | jacaru: | to change to the next channel i have to hit up+enter and i would like to only have to hit up |
| [00:41:22] | GreyFoxx: | hahah a 2.5 year old quote at that |
| [00:41:42] | Joffray: | http://www.mythpvr.com/mythtv/windows-frontend-player.html |
| [00:41:44] | Joffray: | it's on that page |
| [00:42:30] | nomin: | maximumpc recently had an article about what to use to record tv on a computer and it said mythtv is for linux experts only. I'm a clear example that you don't need to be an expert to get mythtv going. |
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| [00:44:44] | xris: | nomin: yeah. used to be a huge pain. now, pretty much anyone can do it with knopmyth and stuff like it. |
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| [00:47:22] | nomin: | I'm about to upgrade from mandriva2006 to mandriva 2007. 2007 has mythtv .20 while I currently have .19. That's why I'm wondering what I need to do so make sure I keep all my videos. Maybe I should write down step by step what I did to install mythtv on mandriva 2007 to show how doable it is for a schmuck. |
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| [00:56:56] | daniel_bergamini: | does anyone know if there has been any success using a dreambox as a mythtv tuner or running myth frontend on a dreabox? |
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| [01:06:15] | defend: | now we just need to get new versions of myth compiling on fbsd and in the port tree :) |
| [01:07:03] | Joffray: | daniel: I highly doubt you'd be too successful with that |
| [01:12:41] | charlieS: | hrm, I recorded a show, and it shows up in mythweb's recording list... but I can't see it in mythfrontend :( |
| [01:12:52] | charlieS: | just using "Default" group. |
| [01:13:09] | Joffray: | sure you're in the right group? |
| [01:13:11] | daniel_bergamini: | defend I'm guesing your right |
| [01:13:25] | daniel_bergamini: | sorry |
| [01:13:30] | daniel_bergamini: | Joffray you're probably right |
| [01:13:31] | daniel_bergamini: | heh |
| [01:13:46] | daniel_bergamini: | what is dbox2? |
| [01:14:03] | charlieS: | how do you change what group you're viewing in mythfrontend? |
| [01:14:37] | Joffray: | press M |
| [01:14:43] | Joffray: | Change Group Filter |
| [01:14:47] | Joffray: | or something along those lines |
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| [01:15:20] | charlieS: | ah, thanks :) |
| [01:15:31] | charlieS: | weird that it doesn't show everything by default. |
| [01:15:44] | Joffray: | yea, I kinda agree |
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| [01:17:10] | charlieS: | woo, firefly was on UHD |
| [01:18:25] | seth|laptop: | mmm firefly |
| [01:18:32] | charlieS: | weird.. my local directv channels are hosed up. Can't change to them in myth.. like '12' tries channel 2023. |
| [01:19:03] | ** charlieS has checked his script.. it works fine, so it's myth just giving the wrong number. ** | |
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| [01:27:14] | ** charlieS tries changing the freqid's to the channel numbers.. ** | |
| [01:28:48] | charlieS: | yay it works :) |
| [01:29:05] | daniel_bergamini: | nice |
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| [01:32:18] | charlieS: | oh, there is a setting to show liveTV when using "All Programs" |
| [01:32:25] | charlieS: | .. which should be the default ;)_ |
| [01:32:31] | Con-fuze-ed: | I have a stupid question... what do I set as my path so that myth music looks at the master backend for music rather than the frontend filesystem |
| [01:33:05] | GreyFoxx: | charlieS: Most users disagree, hence why it's no default :) |
| [01:33:09] | Con-fuze-ed: | I don't like to have live tv mixed with my scheduled recordings |
| [01:33:10] | daniel_bergamini: | Con-fuze-ed I imagine you need to export that path from the backend and mount it on the front end |
| [01:33:13] | GreyFoxx: | But you can tell myth to showit by default I belive |
| [01:33:25] | daniel_bergamini: | but I'm not certain that's the only way |
| [01:33:34] | charlieS: | yea.. I guess LiveTV stuff does get cluttered. |
| [01:33:42] | Con-fuze-ed: | daniel_bergamini: so I have to mount it via nfs or samba... ugh |
| [01:34:33] | charlieS: | Now.. my final issue of the day, is that when I change the GUI size settings, they're applied to TV as well.. even though I have told it not to. |
| [01:34:51] | daniel_bergamini: | Con-fuze-ed make sure nobody disagrees, but yeah I think so |
| [01:35:03] | GreyFoxx: | So you do NOT have it set to use the gui size for tv playback ...yet it is ? |
| [01:35:09] | daniel_bergamini: | you should look at the docs for running a diskless front end |
| [01:35:22] | daniel_bergamini: | they give you the general instructions for mounting the /myth folder |
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| [01:35:33] | daniel_bergamini: | and if you just want music, adapt it for the /myth/music folder |
| [01:35:59] | charlieS: | GreyFoxx: correct |
| [01:36:58] | cryptonic: | can anyone tell me if i install myth tv on ubuntu will i be able to go from ubuntu(gnome to myth tv gui with the click of a button/ press of a key on a remote? |
| [01:37:35] | xris: | cryptonic: that has nothing to do with ubuntu, but yes, you should be able to script lirc to start mythfrontend |
| [01:37:52] | charlieS: | cryptonic: sure.. login as the mythtv user, and click on it in the menu. |
| [01:37:54] | kimo_sabe: | cryptonic: put mythfrontend on it's own virtual desktop |
| [01:38:06] | cryptonic: | is it easy enough to install myth on ubuntu do you know? |
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| [01:38:15] | xris: | cryptonic: most of the devs use ubuntu. |
| [01:38:25] | cryptonic: | :D |
| [01:38:35] | charlieS: | cryptonic: actually, there's docs in the wiki that show you how to make it launch myth on boot, after auto-login for gdm is enabled. |
| [01:38:41] | cryptonic: | is it just running a deb package then? |
| [01:38:41] | xris: | dunno about packages, though. people keep trying, but the main repo ones are usually way out of date |
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| [01:38:53] | charlieS: | cryptonic: a few packages, yep |
| [01:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | charlieS: From the frontend run this : mythfrontend -G GuiSizeForTV mythfrontend -G GuiSizeForTV |
| [01:39:04] | charlieS: | 0.20 is in Ubuntu. |
| [01:39:06] | GreyFoxx: | oops, just a single mythfrontend -G GuiSizeForTV |
| [01:39:13] | GreyFoxx: | What value gets returned ? |
| [01:39:16] | kash: | http://pastebin.ca/241203 |
| [01:39:18] | kash: | problem :/ |
| [01:39:24] | kash: | i think it's the way QT was compiled |
| [01:40:08] | charlieS: | GreyFoxx: = 0 |
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| [01:41:47] | kash: | where the hell do i get Qt from :o? |
| [01:42:19] | charlieS: | wow Bob deinterlace sucks.. but Kernel looks good |
| [01:42:40] | GreyFoxx: | charlieS: HDTV ? |
| [01:42:54] | GreyFoxx: | Bob is really only intended for HDTV output I believe |
| [01:43:00] | xris: | charlieS: much nicer to not use deinterlace, and to use the nividia flicker control |
| [01:43:02] | charlieS: | yea, I"m running 720p to the TV |
| [01:43:07] | xris: | oh |
| [01:43:08] | GreyFoxx: | ahh |
| [01:43:16] | kash: | i've got 1080p |
| [01:43:17] | kash: | :) |
| [01:43:21] | cryptonic: | downloading myth tv now to give it a try :) hopefully il like it :) |
| [01:43:35] | GreyFoxx: | xris: I'm curious, what resolution for you record at, and what do you use for an output res? |
| [01:43:37] | xris: | cryptonic: if you're compiling from source, grab from the fixes branch in svn |
| [01:43:40] | Con-fuze-ed: | you will hate it at first |
| [01:43:43] | cryptonic: | can you change the skins? |
| [01:43:46] | Con-fuze-ed: | and love it once it's all running |
| [01:43:51] | xris: | GreyFoxx: I record at whatever firewire gives me (it differs per show/channel). |
| [01:43:57] | xris: | playback is 800x600, Ithink |
| [01:43:59] | GreyFoxx: | turning flicker control down to 1/2 made a huge difference on my system |
| [01:44:17] | GreyFoxx: | I was happy before,now evenmore so |
| [01:44:22] | charlieS: | xris: I don't see that in nvidia-settings. |
| [01:44:29] | cryptonic: | well im installing it on my desktop to see what its like, my media pc isnt set up totally yet and that has the tv card so |
| [01:44:31] | Con-fuze-ed: | I had my box up for months with almost no maintenance and never a crash... but it took me many hours of sleepless nights to get it that way |
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| [01:44:45] | charlieS: | kash: nice :) |
| [01:45:33] | GreyFoxx: | xris: Ahhh, I forgot you had moved to firewire :) |
| [01:45:37] | xris: | heh |
| [01:46:13] | ** GreyFoxx is recording 720x480, output 720x480, flicker set to 1. Picture is as close to flawless as I can expect ** | |
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| [01:46:49] | cryptonic: | You must run mythtv-setup as the 'mythtv' user in order to complete mythtv configuration. Note that this program requires an X display, so you must either login to an X session as the 'mythtv' user, or otherwise arrange for that user to have access to your X display.? how do i give my current login access to the xserver? |
| [01:46:58] | Kannix_: | Hi all |
| [01:47:11] | Kannix_: | Can someone help me to set up mythtv under Ubuntu 6.10? |
| [01:47:20] | cryptonic: | lol |
| [01:47:25] | charlieS: | cryptonic: 'xhost +' |
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| [01:47:36] | Kannix_: | According to their documentation, I just need to install "apt-get install mysql-server" previous to mythtv. |
| [01:47:42] | EnterUserName: | Does anyone know if mythweb will work with fast cgi? |
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| [01:48:00] | charlieS: | Kannix_: it's a dependancy, don't worry about it. |
| [01:48:02] | Kannix_: | Of course I am getting SQL errors, when running "mythtv-setup". |
| [01:48:18] | Kannix_: | charlieS: Well, it is *not* a dependency with Ubuntu 6.10! |
| [01:48:29] | SkaFreak: | I tried connecting a PS2 to my mythtv setup but when I try to play games it's delayed, is there any way to fix that or is it just the time that it's taking to decode/display the signal |
| [01:48:44] | Joffray: | you can't fix that |
| [01:48:48] | Kannix_: | charlieS: I tried these instructions: http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php |
| [01:48:50] | Weezey: | I'm having this weird issue where some recordings, about 10 seconds in, it skips approximately 10 seconds and then the sound is off. Happening on both backends, pvr-150 and pvr-350. |
| [01:49:01] | cryptonic: | charlieS: go to system, administration and then synaptic package manager, search for myth tv and then tick the myth tv checkbox click apply and install from there |
| [01:49:08] | Joffray: | Kannix: import the mysql db |
| [01:49:17] | GreyFoxx: | SkaFreak: There is a buffer/reecording doing on, even during "livetv" |
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| [01:49:21] | Joffray: | err the mythtv db |
| [01:49:27] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: I did that. |
| [01:49:42] | Joffray: | well what's the error |
| [01:49:44] | Kannix_: | Joffray: Which mysql db are you refering to? |
| [01:49:47] | GreyFoxx: | If you want something withalmost no delay you will; need to use a cheap bttv tuner and have myth spawn a non recording app like xawtv just for that |
| [01:49:48] | Joffray: | mc.sql |
| [01:49:54] | cryptonic: | well thats as far as iv gotten so far |
| [01:49:56] | cryptonic: | :) |
| [01:50:16] | Kannix_: | THe error is "QSqlQuery::exec: database not open" |
| [01:50:25] | Joffray: | right |
| [01:50:25] | SkaFreak: | alright, so with a pvr-150 there's not really a way to get non-delayed video? |
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| [01:50:33] | GreyFoxx: | SkaFreak: Correct |
| [01:50:39] | GreyFoxx: | nor with myth itself |
| [01:50:40] | Joffray: | mysql -u user -ppassword < mc.sql |
| [01:50:56] | GreyFoxx: | there is a delay introduced by the pvr card and even more by myth |
| [01:51:03] | Kannix_: | Joffray: Where do I find that "mc.sql"? |
| [01:51:08] | Joffray: | it comes with the source |
| [01:51:11] | Joffray: | in the database folder |
| [01:51:17] | GreyFoxx: | Most who do what you describe do what I just said, pipe the game system though a bttv card and use another app for playback of it |
| [01:51:22] | Kannix_: | Joffray: I installed the ubuntu packages. |
| [01:51:30] | Joffray: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_E . . . _From_Source |
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| [01:51:42] | Joffray: | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV |
| [01:51:56] | Kannix_: | Joffray: Thanks for the links. |
| [01:52:09] | Joffray: | I don't know much about the binary packages |
| [01:52:44] | Joffray: | sudo apt-get install mythtv-database |
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| [01:54:16] | cryptonic: | hmmmmmm....... it says myth tv could not connect to your database please configure your database? |
| [01:54:35] | Joffray: | sudo apt-get install mythtv-database |
| [01:55:13] | charlieS: | dude.. it's running TV in a window when I window the GUI |
| [01:55:16] | charlieS: | :( |
| [01:55:30] | Joffray: | that's what it's suppossed to do |
| [01:55:37] | charlieS: | oh |
| [01:55:42] | cryptonic: | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock – open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| [01:55:43] | cryptonic: | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| [01:55:53] | Joffray: | close your synaptic package manager window |
| [01:56:21] | cryptonic: | lol, its like you are on my pc :) |
| [01:56:26] | Joffray: | ;) |
| [01:56:29] | GreyFoxx: | charlieS: Then don;t run mythin a window? |
| [01:57:08] | GreyFoxx: | When you mentioned the gui size before I didn't realized you had ment windowed mode and not just setting the gui x in fullscreen |
| [01:57:29] | charlieS: | I don't.. I"m experimenting |
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| [01:57:48] | GreyFoxx: | In windowed mode playback willbe a window |
| [01:57:54] | charlieS: | got that |
| [01:58:02] | GreyFoxx: | In fullscreen mode playback will be fullscreen unless you tell it otherwise |
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| [01:59:38] | cryptonic: | soz about that |
| [01:59:49] | charlieS: | oh crap. where are the settings stored for "resolution for GUI and TV" .. I changed it to 800x600 and it's saved it :( |
| [01:59:50] | cryptonic: | didnt look so long in terminal :( |
| [01:59:52] | Kannix_: | Joffray: Well, mythtv-database was and still is installed and cinfigured according to package management. The mysql.txt file is in my .mythtv directory, yet I still get the SQL errors. |
| [02:00:15] | charlieS: | GreyFoxx: you aren't really understanding what I said. I know what the option implies, but I'm obviously dealing with a bug. |
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| [02:01:02] | GreyFoxx: | charlieS: Settings -> Appearance |
| [02:01:21] | Con-fuze-ed: | I have a question... I deleted and recreated my capture cards in mythsetup.... now my scheduled recordings are not on tuners 1 & 2 but instead it 3&4.... it's mildly annoying... how can I reset it back to 1&2 |
| [02:01:23] | Kannix_: | Joffray: Do you know an mysql command that checks, if the "mythconverg" database exists? |
| [02:01:26] | charlieS: | GreyFoxx: I can't run the GUI |
| [02:01:44] | GreyFoxx: | Why not ? |
| [02:01:47] | charlieS: | Kannix_: 'show databases;" |
| [02:01:51] | Joffray: | mysql -uroot -proot; |
| [02:01:58] | charlieS: | because it's trying to change the resolution to 800x600... |
| [02:01:59] | Joffray: | mysql > show databases; |
| [02:02:11] | Joffray: | the mysql > is the command prompt once you're in mysql |
| [02:02:57] | Joffray: | the problem is either that the database doesn't exist or that you can't login |
| [02:03:02] | Joffray: | with the information in that mysql.txt file |
| [02:03:09] | GreyFoxx: | mythfrontend -O GuiWidth=X,GuiHeight=Y,RunFrontendInWindow=0 |
| [02:03:16] | GreyFoxx: | Fill in X and Y to whatever you want them to be |
| [02:03:26] | Joffray: | http://www.oldskools.org/mythfrontends.png |
| [02:03:27] | Joffray: | :) |
| [02:03:48] | charlieS: | GreyFoxx: thanks. Found it in the db :) |
| [02:04:48] | Kannix_: | charlieS: Since I am a mysql newbie, where do I enter that? The mysql shell does not accept it. |
| [02:05:11] | charlieS: | Joffray: explained it |
| [02:05:14] | Joffray: | what do you see right now |
| [02:05:20] | Joffray: | do you see |
| [02:05:23] | Joffray: | mysql> |
| [02:06:31] | cryptonic: | when i run the myth tv front end it seems to exit after the wake on lan option screen |
| [02:06:41] | Kannix_: | Joffray: Aha, forgot the ";" :) The database does exist. It is called "mythconverg" as expected. |
| [02:06:47] | Joffray: | ok |
| [02:06:51] | Joffray: | now check the mysql.txt file |
| [02:06:53] | cryptonic: | and everytime i run it it goes over the same settings |
| [02:06:56] | Joffray: | see what username/password it's using |
| [02:07:02] | Joffray: | and make sure you can login to mysql with that information |
| [02:07:23] | Kannix_: | Joffray: I cannot. Password is not set. |
| [02:07:58] | Joffray: | well set it |
| [02:08:09] | kash: | what kind of errors would i get if Qt wasn't compiled with OpenGL and MySQL support? |
| [02:08:32] | Kannix_: | Joffray: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [02:08:32] | Joffray: | you would get compile errors |
| [02:08:41] | Joffray: | so login without a password |
| [02:08:48] | Joffray: | and type |
| [02:09:00] | Joffray: | set password = password('ilovemen'); |
| [02:09:07] | Kannix_: | Joffray: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
| [02:09:17] | kash: | Joffray: http://pastebin.ca/241203 like that? |
| [02:09:26] | cryptonic: | can anyone help me with getting past the first two settings screens? |
| [02:09:26] | Joffray: | sure |
| [02:09:44] | Joffray: | cryptonic: if you're not getting past that, then you're having db problems |
| [02:09:44] | charlieS: | hrm. On just one channel, it's "not aligned" ...in that, on ch 12, I see a flickering bar at the top.. it's shifted down. |
| [02:09:48] | Joffray: | you and Kannix should hang out |
| [02:09:56] | charlieS: | lol Joffray |
| [02:10:07] | kash: | lol |
| [02:10:12] | Joffray: | I'm getting dinner now |
| [02:10:14] | Joffray: | bye |
| [02:10:50] | cryptonic: | joffray : how do you set up the db? |
| [02:11:14] | cryptonic: | damn :) |
| [02:11:28] | Joffray: | I'll be back in like an hour |
| [02:11:35] | Joffray: | I gotta get dinner and goto the store |
| [02:12:08] | cryptonic: | cool |
| [02:12:32] | Kannix_: | so we have the same problems :) |
| [02:12:34] | Kannix_: | *sigh* |
| [02:12:47] | Kannix_: | so I have to become a mysql admin to get a VDR to run ... |
| [02:13:03] | Joffray: | Kannix: your problem is that the user designated in your mysql.txt is non existant |
| [02:13:08] | Kannix_: | and all I want to do is watch some TV with my PVR350. Mythtv is the only "player" that seems to support it. |
| [02:13:16] | kash: | Kannix_: do you have phpmyadmin? |
| [02:13:17] | Joffray: | so you need to create it and make sure all the information matches |
| [02:13:22] | Kannix_: | Joffray: The users exists, just is not allowed access. |
| [02:13:35] | Joffray: | how do you know it exists? |
| [02:13:56] | cryptonic: | well shouldnt there be a default user? |
| [02:14:20] | Kannix_: | Joffray: I can "su" to it. |
| [02:14:29] | Joffray: | ok you're confused |
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| [02:14:33] | Joffray: | just because a system account exists |
| [02:14:42] | Joffray: | does not mean the same account exists in mysql |
| [02:14:43] | Kannix_: | Or do you mean an SQL user account for the db? |
| [02:14:47] | Joffray: | YES |
| [02:14:51] | Kannix_: | ok |
| [02:15:03] | kash: | Joffray: whoa, calm :] |
| [02:15:03] | Kannix_: | how do I check, if it exists and what the pw settings are? |
| [02:15:22] | cryptonic: | go have dinner |
| [02:15:24] | cryptonic: | :) |
| [02:15:25] | Joffray: | login to mysql as whatever user you used before |
| [02:15:39] | Kannix_: | I thought that mythtv-database package was supposed to do exactly that: set up mysql for that user etc. so you can run mythtv. |
| [02:15:51] | Kannix_: | Joffray: done. |
| [02:16:15] | Joffray: | mysql> SELECT user FROM mysql.user; |
| [02:16:25] | cryptonic: | kannix how did you do it, wheres the config file for mysql? |
| [02:16:30] | charlieS: | whee @ Manual Zoom Mode |
| [02:16:34] | Joffray: | I'm gone |
| [02:16:49] | cryptonic: | lol |
| [02:16:55] | cryptonic: | run man run :) |
| [02:17:11] | Kannix_: | Joffray: I have two user entries "mythv" |
| [02:17:14] | Kannix_: | oh well |
| [02:17:17] | Kannix_: | see you later :) |
| [02:17:18] | charlieS: | so does everyone use the MCE remote? Because it "just works" ? |
| [02:17:39] | cryptonic: | just works? |
| [02:18:00] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: I just installed the mysql-server package (ubuntu 6.10) and the "mythtv-database" package which is supposed to set up mysql for the purpose. |
| [02:18:17] | cryptonic: | might have to modify it with an ubuntu logo instead of windows logo on that green button, maybe spray it brown :) |
| [02:18:20] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: I have Zero experience with mysql |
| [02:18:37] | charlieS: | cryptonic: right :) |
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| [02:18:41] | cryptonic: | same here:) |
| [02:19:05] | R_: | yesterday i was on the watch recordings menu, and i did something, and it made the show in yellow text, does anyone know what i did? |
| [02:19:11] | R_: | show title* |
| [02:21:20] | charlieS: | unplugged the blue cable? |
| [02:21:39] | charlieS: | j/k.. I dunno. |
| [02:21:41] | R_: | lol |
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| [02:22:14] | cryptonic: | kannix you would think that the mysql server package would be part of the dependancies list |
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| [02:22:23] | charlieS: | damn power management. :( it's not DPMS.. but *something* is blanking my screen ever 10 mins. No BIOS settings.. |
| [02:22:58] | R_: | X has builtin blanking |
| [02:23:04] | R_: | xset q to check the status |
| [02:23:13] | cryptonic: | kannix, did it work after you installed the mysql server package and did you use 5.0? |
| [02:23:20] | GreyFoxx: | xset s off |
| [02:23:27] | GreyFoxx: | that's all I do on all my frontends |
| [02:24:07] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: You would think that, but it is not. |
| [02:24:21] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: It did not work and yes, I am using 5.0. |
| [02:24:31] | cryptonic: | :( |
| [02:24:35] | charlieS: | GreyFoxx: I have that set.. 'xset q' says blanking timeout is 0 |
| [02:24:56] | cryptonic: | E: mythtv-database: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| [02:24:56] | cryptonic: | E: mythtv: dependency problems – leaving unconfigured |
| [02:24:58] | cryptonic: | :( |
| [02:24:59] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: I have reinstalled mythtv, now I have all users twice. I might have to purge mysql AND mythtv, then install mysql first and then mythtv. Silly Ubuntu, really. |
| [02:25:16] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: Yep. that is the error you get. |
| [02:25:27] | RyeBrye: | Leiber – you still here? |
| [02:25:40] | RyeBrye: | Leeiber that is |
| [02:25:50] | cryptonic: | so you need to install mysql5 first and then myth tv? |
| [02:26:36] | charlieS: | anyone know of a way to have myth run a script after it changes channels? I've got an IVTV sound issue, and my cron to correct it can only run every minute.. |
| [02:27:02] | charlieS: | er, n/m, I can just `~/fixsound.sh` in the perl channel changer script :=O |
| [02:27:21] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: I suppose so. |
| [02:27:27] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: I am trying it right now. |
| [02:27:41] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: after purging mysql-server and mythtv. It takes a moment ... |
| [02:27:52] | cryptonic: | tell me if it works |
| [02:27:57] | RyeBrye: | Kannix – what distro are you working on? |
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| [02:28:50] | cryptonic: | ubuntu i think |
| [02:29:01] | RyeBrye: | gotcha |
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| [02:30:20] | Leebier: | yes i am |
| [02:30:24] | Leebier: | ryebrye, i am |
| [02:30:42] | Leebier: | you're going to break my heard if you have an answer since i'm in the middle of reinstalling FC5 |
| [02:31:18] | Leebier: | heart* |
| [02:32:53] | atomjack: | for the past couple weeks the quality of the video recorded with my pvr-250 has been really really bad. when viewing straight from the tv the quality is fine, and i've even tried switching the cables, but all my recordings from the pvr-250 are all but unwatchable – there's 1–2 second skips in the audio (and video matches), and a lot of the time the video is going haywire..here's a sample screenshot: http://img180.imageshack.us |
| [02:34:17] | atomjack: | er actually it's a pvr-350... |
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| [02:40:09] | RyeBrye: | Oh... Well |
| [02:40:15] | RyeBrye: | About the FC6 thing... |
| [02:40:26] | RyeBrye: | I ran an upgrade install and mythtv works perfectly fine in FC6 |
| [02:40:40] | RyeBrye: | and there were a few people here who were running FC6 shortly after it came out |
| [02:41:29] | cryptonic: | kannix : did it work? |
| [02:43:06] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: It works |
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| [02:43:25] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: Sorry it took so long. Mythtv had some lengthy setup routine. |
| [02:43:26] | cryptonic: | how did you do it? |
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| [02:43:45] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: Well, first pruge all mysql and mythtv files via synaptic |
| [02:44:04] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: then reinstall mysql-server (no version number, it automatically depends on 5.0) |
| [02:44:30] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: After mysql-server is installed, reinstall mythtv. |
| [02:45:16] | Kannix_: | Then copy the /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt to your home directory into ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt and make it world-readable. |
| [02:45:36] | Kannix_: | then you can start mythtv-setup |
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| [02:46:19] | cryptonic: | ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt and make it world-readable. (world readable? |
| [02:46:54] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: "sudo chmod 644 mysql.txt" |
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| [02:51:35] | Leebier: | ah, gotcha |
| [02:51:37] | Leebier: | thx |
| [02:51:46] | Leebier: | i didn't feel like downloading 6 before reformatting |
| [02:52:06] | Leebier: | so i'm just putting 5 back on, will upgrade if/when things are working and there's some consensus it won't break anything :) |
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| [02:52:13] | cryptonic: | kannix: did you get this error while installing myth tv in synaptic : E: mythtv-database: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| [02:52:14] | cryptonic: | E: mythtv: dependency problems – leaving unconfigured |
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| [03:00:32] | cryptonic: | whats the command for starting the myth tv backend again? |
| [03:01:16] | Kyle-Work: | mythbackend :) |
| [03:01:18] | Leebier: | mythbackend |
| [03:03:30] | cryptonic: | never mind, does amarok break myth tv? |
| [03:04:35] | cryptonic: | ? |
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| [03:08:36] | Qwell: | so...why might mythtv not change to a channel, when it's supposed to record? It fails recording, because it doesn't change channels |
| [03:08:48] | Qwell: | If I'm on the right channel beforehand, it records fine |
| [03:10:02] | brendan__: | Hi, i'm not getting any sound from my v4l capture card. It works fine in tvtime, line is set to capture, and the volume is corrent |
| [03:10:29] | brendan__: | i looked at the debug section in the how-to but nothing there helped |
| [03:10:37] | Qwell: | meanwhile...anybody on the west coast wanna let me leech some bandwidth, to watch the simpsons (et al)? :P |
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| [03:14:12] | Kannix_: | cryptonic: well, any luck in getting it set up? I cannot get it to play. |
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| [03:19:54] | cryptonic: | cant get it to work at all now |
| [03:20:12] | cryptonic: | think it might have something to do with amarok |
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| [03:40:48] | defend: | hey any one here use nuvexport to transcode to xvid? |
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| [03:47:23] | nomin: | I would like to about nuvexport also. How easy to use is it? etc. |
| [03:47:32] | nomin: | *I would like to know about |
| [03:48:02] | Joffray: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Nuvexport |
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| [03:49:52] | RyeBrye: | Can I just build a single plugin for myth from source and plug it into the current Myth I am running? |
| [03:50:03] | RyeBrye: | I want the newest mythgame in SVN – the one that will automatically generate screenshots for your roms |
| [03:50:15] | RyeBrye: | but I don't really want to build the whole thing... |
| [03:50:49] | Joffray: | mythplugins is seperate from the other stuff |
| [03:51:00] | RyeBrye: | gotcha |
| [03:51:21] | RyeBrye: | mythplugins would build all the plugins then? |
| [03:52:03] | Leebier: | gah, updating everyting after installing FC5 takes for freaking ever |
| [03:52:11] | Leebier: | nothing anyone here can do about it, just wanted to whine |
| [03:52:15] | RyeBrye: | Yeah, it would :) |
| [03:52:23] | RyeBrye: | almost as long as downloading FC6 :P |
| [03:52:31] | RyeBrye: | (well, not quite that long actually) |
| [03:52:32] | Sedorox: | quick q (and yes, very newbish), does the mythbackend deamon have to be running on a frontend only system? |
| [03:52:36] | Leebier: | don't you use your "logic" on me |
| [03:53:20] | Leebier: | yeah, this is only 500 MB of downloads (which actually was fast) |
| [03:53:26] | Leebier: | it's the installation time that's killing me |
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| [03:54:42] | RyeBrye: | Updating using yum when both atrpms and livna are enabled is like resolving a fight between bitter teenage girls |
| [03:55:04] | Leebier: | lol, thankfully i have only yum set up so far |
| [03:55:42] | RyeBrye: | atrpms and livna repos... I have livna for something... but I can't remember what – since it's ndiswrapper package was outdated and sucked and it's nvidia beta drivers didn't work for me... |
| [03:55:47] | Leebier: | i'm still steaming about having to give up on an install where lirc (including for a IRblaster to change my STB) and TV out worked with no problems |
| [03:55:53] | RyeBrye: | people in #fedora hate atrpms – but I obviously need it for Mythtv |
| [03:56:12] | Joffray: | you don't need it, you could build from source |
| [03:56:15] | Joffray: | ;) |
| [03:56:15] | trend: | grr.. i keep seeing: 'em28xx #0: this driver can be opened only once" when I run 'mythtv' |
| [03:56:16] | RyeBrye: | Leebier – you can put your /home on it's own partition and not have it touched when you reinstall |
| [03:56:26] | Leebier: | i have foudn their attitude annoying |
| [03:56:33] | trend: | and then mythtv closes after a second |
| [03:56:53] | Leebier: | what good would my /home directory have done me? |
| [03:56:54] | RyeBrye: | Joffray – that's a good point... I'm thinking about building MythTV from source anyway |
| [03:57:00] | Leebier: | or is that where all the lirc stuff lives? |
| [03:57:06] | trend: | and I am not using it for anythign else.. i don' think |
| [03:57:08] | RyeBrye: | All your user settings are usually stored there |
| [03:57:17] | Leebier: | ah, well, not much settings-wise that had been done yet |
| [03:57:22] | trend: | the model is loaded however |
| [03:57:25] | RyeBrye: | Oh, gotcha |
| [03:57:30] | Leebier: | just that the PVR-350 is so tempermental |
| [03:57:34] | RyeBrye: | I had to reinstall my system a while ago |
| [03:57:38] | Leebier: | and it was very well behaved with yseterday's install |
| [03:57:41] | RyeBrye: | it's a lot faster each time you do it |
| [03:57:48] | Leebier: | this is true |
| [03:57:56] | Leebier: | alas, this is the 3rd time in the last month |
| [03:57:59] | Leebier: | with zero days of having a working PVR inbetween |
| [03:58:09] | RyeBrye: | Yeah, that would suck |
| [03:58:44] | Leebier: | should have just stuck with my mostly working .18 on FC3 :) |
| [03:58:52] | RyeBrye: | I'm still okay to strip and rebuild my system since it's not in production use yet – my DirecTV Tivo is still my main DVR... but soon I wont have DirecTV (it's a homeowners association deal – we're switching from a group package with DTV to a local cable provider) |
| [03:59:36] | Leebier: | that's annoying. though i guess being able to record when it rains will be nice :) |
| [03:59:45] | Joffray: | never an issue for me |
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| [04:00:04] | Joffray: | and it snows here |
| [04:00:04] | Joffray: | a lot |
| [04:00:22] | Joffray: | people have a lot of misconceptions about satellite dishes |
| [04:00:48] | Leebier: | never had one, but i've had some family complain about the rain thing |
| [04:01:23] | Leebier: | my biggest thing about not getting a dish is that it means i have to get a landline so i can have internet |
| [04:01:41] | Joffray: | you don't need to get a landline to get DSL here |
| [04:01:49] | Joffray: | in fact, I have DSL without home phone service |
| [04:01:56] | Leebier: | oh? interesting |
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| [04:02:01] | Sedorox: | you can have cable internet too without paying for cable tv |
| [04:02:06] | Leebier: | i'll have to keep that in mind next time i'm in the market |
| [04:02:06] | Joffray: | yea |
| [04:02:09] | Joffray: | I used to have that |
| [04:02:16] | Leebier: | sedorox- yes, but i've never seen it be an economically viable option |
| [04:02:20] | Sedorox: | its normally like $10 tho for a 'access' charge |
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| [04:02:23] | Sedorox: | ah |
| [04:02:42] | Leebier: | but maybe my opinion will have changed now that i live away from my hometown and want the sunday ticket package |
| [04:03:03] | Leebier: | 'cause going to a sports bar every weekend is time consuming, expensive, and i got stuck in an out of the way alcove 'cause only 1 tv had my game |
| [04:03:22] | Joffray: | try being a soccer fan in the US |
| [04:03:45] | Leebier: | lol. i hear ya. i just spent the last year in england, so I have been keeping my eyes open for coverage |
| [04:03:57] | Leebier: | i'm pretty sure my digital cable has some coverage though |
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| [04:04:05] | Joffray: | yea, I watch/record the games on FSC |
| [04:04:13] | Leebier: | though i imagine you're screwed if you follow a team on the bottom half of the tables |
| [04:04:14] | Joffray: | and then I have ITVN for the other EPL games |
| [04:04:17] | Leebier: | but that's the case in england as well |
| [04:04:36] | Joffray: | FSC/Setanta have an agreement where Setanta gets first dibs each week |
| [04:04:42] | Joffray: | then they go back and forth for broadcast rights |
| [04:04:51] | Joffray: | so Setanta gets first dibs, 3rd dibs, 5th dibs |
| [04:04:51] | Joffray: | etc |
| [04:04:54] | Leebier: | gotca |
| [04:05:11] | Joffray: | of course, Setanta is only available on DirecTV or ITVN (www.itvn.com) |
| [04:05:18] | Joffray: | or Globecast |
| [04:05:36] | Leebier: | i actually did a bunch of academic reading about football broadcast rights in an European Law class |
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| [04:06:15] | Leebier: | of all sports, mlb has been the best about making games available to out of market people |
| [04:06:36] | Leebier: | for $100 i was able to watch every game in the league for the year, from anywhere with a connection, live or archived |
| [04:07:14] | Leebier: | just wished a had my mythbox with me in england, 'cause timeshifting would have been very nice :) |
| [04:07:31] | Leebier: | well, with auto commercial detecting :) |
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| [04:15:17] | riddlebox: | anyone know if you need amd64_agp and agpgart modules if you run a nvidia card? |
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| [04:34:47] | PointyPumper: | asdasdas |
| [04:34:49] | PointyPumper: | anybody in here? |
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| [04:44:34] | Leebier: | probably pretty dead |
| [04:45:01] | Leebier: | i've noticed a rather eastcoast/european schedule for activity in the room |
| [04:45:10] | Leebier: | i'm here and awake, but likely to be of nearly zero help |
| [04:47:57] | PointyPumper: | :/ |
| [04:48:18] | PointyPumper: | i have the same timezone as east coast xD but i live at night xD |
| [04:48:45] | riddlebox: | heres something funny, I can watch recorded videos, which are mpg files, in mythtv, but I cannot go into the dir and click on them to watch them? |
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| [04:55:51] | Joffray: | you can open them with mplayer |
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| [05:05:03] | hot_wheelz: | we have a shitty fusio dvico dual digital dvb-t and it won't work in ubuntu |
| [05:05:05] | hot_wheelz: | help? |
| [05:05:24] | hot_wheelz: | its not detected by the mythtv-setup program |
| [05:05:41] | hot_wheelz: | but we have another winfast dtv1000t which IS being detected and can scan channels OK |
| [05:06:09] | hot_wheelz: | is there something we can check to see if the card is being detected properly by linux – like a kernel version or something? |
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| [05:52:42] | lineX: | hi |
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| [06:13:13] | Spyhawk: | hello |
| [06:13:49] | Spyhawk: | is anyone here? |
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| [06:19:25] | Spyhawk: | hello? |
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| [06:36:31] | juski: | Spyhawk: you'd do better just getting down to business & stating your problem :) |
| [06:38:05] | Spyhawk: | lol |
| [06:39:18] | Spyhawk: | is it possible to run MythTV without a Tuner card installed? I dont have one yet and am trying to install it. i get to the point of running mythbackend & and it hangs partial way though |
| [06:39:22] | Spyhawk: | any ideas? |
| [06:39:35] | Joffray: | hmph |
| [06:40:46] | juski: | if you want to use mythtv without a tuner card you don't need to run mythbackend |
| [06:41:32] | juski: | all mythbackend gives you is a scheduled recording system, recording & transcoding – all the stuff to do with TV |
| [06:42:16] | Spyhawk: | cool got it |
| [06:42:20] | juski: | without mythbackend, mythfrontend will still _work_ – just not the TV functionality (watch TV, schedule recordings, watch recordings etc) |
| [06:42:24] | Spyhawk: | i just went ahead and ran frontend |
| [06:42:25] | Spyhawk: | it worked |
| [06:42:37] | Spyhawk: | thanks |
| [06:43:52] | juski: | np :) |
| [06:44:52] | Spyhawk: | is there an option to read memory cards? |
| [06:44:55] | juski: | you can also change the menus so the TV related items don't appear if you like |
| [06:45:29] | juski: | though I can't remember many of the specifics there are a few ways to make menu items disappear |
| [06:46:31] | juski: | all of them involve editing theme xml files IIRC, but there are already some predefined menu layouts – one or more may already have the tv items removed :) |
| [06:47:22] | juski: | you said you don't _yet_ have a tuner – does that indicate you plan to get one (or more) at some point? |
| [06:48:15] | Spyhawk: | yes |
| [06:48:48] | juski: | if so, I don't recommend you buy a framegrabber (regular 'tv tuner') – I suggest you go for one of the Hauppauge PVR cards for analogue TV, or a DVB tuner (for digital TV in Europe) or an ATSC HDTV tuner.. or indeed a cable receiver with a firewire port ;) |
| [06:49:08] | Spyhawk: | i plan on getting a Hauppauge PVR-150 |
| [06:49:11] | juski: | ah cool |
| [06:49:32] | Spyhawk: | do you know if the LeadTek tuners work? |
| [06:49:39] | juski: | pvr2000 etc? |
| [06:49:50] | Spyhawk: | or TV2000 yes |
| [06:50:19] | juski: | tv2000 is a framegrabber & I wouldn't recommend anybody buy one. software encoding sucks on so many levels |
| [06:50:29] | Spyhawk: | ah i agree |
| [06:50:45] | Spyhawk: | i didnt konw the tv2000 didnt have a hardware encoder |
| [06:50:57] | Spyhawk: | hows the pvr2000? |
| [06:51:47] | juski: | pvr2000 doesn't yet work fully in Linux, but a while ago I was helping test it |
| [06:51:59] | Spyhawk: | i know Hauppauge is a good brand. all reviews point to that direction. any other brands you would recommend? |
| [06:52:11] | juski: | it works as a framegrabber but there are still issues with its hardware encoding |
| [06:52:23] | juski: | Hauppauge or Hauppauge for analogue TV |
| [06:52:33] | juski: | .. or Hauppauge ;) |
| [06:52:37] | ** Sedorox has a PVR150 ** | |
| [06:52:43] | Sedorox: | still working on getting mythtv to work tho :( |
| [06:52:56] | Sedorox: | (in general.. not with the card itself) |
| [06:53:25] | juski: | getting the tuners in your box working & confirming they work before going near mythtv is an important step :) |
| [06:53:47] | Spyhawk: | are they hard to setup? |
| [06:54:03] | juski: | depends what you mean by 'hard' |
| [06:54:20] | juski: | if you can follow howto instructions to the letter you should be ok |
| [06:54:57] | Sedorox: | the problem for me.. everything I've tried so far.. doesn't like to work since I don't have audio on my backend box... however I could get it to scan the channels (and it was proper) |
| [06:56:11] | ** charlieS confirms that shitfing the GUI -40px also shifts TV. ugh.. I guess I just suffer with a crap menu. ** | |
| [06:57:33] | juski: | charlieS: so uncheck the 'use GUI size for TV' in the appearance menu then ;) |
| [06:57:41] | charlieS: | you'd think, huh? |
| [06:58:12] | juski: | depends how you're shifting the GUI around |
| [06:58:35] | charlieS: | shrinking, then shifting left. |
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| [06:58:54] | juski: | uncheck that box then.. it's enabled by default |
| [06:59:05] | charlieS: | it is unchecked, sheesh |
| [06:59:16] | juski: | unless you're using the 'overscan' settings... |
| [06:59:19] | ** charlieS can read what it's _supposed_ to do ** | |
| [06:59:29] | charlieS: | no.. Appearance menu |
| [06:59:33] | juski: | hey don't bite my head off |
| [06:59:45] | charlieS: | I didn't :) |
| [07:00:02] | Spyhawk: | wow, i restarted the machine and logged into my mythtv account and it changed everything |
| [07:01:03] | charlieS: | like icons on the desktop are missing, from the other account? |
| [07:01:35] | juski: | charlieS: so you resized the GUI & gave it a minus value for the X offset... I'd have thought that unchecking 'use GUI size for TV' would've solved that |
| [07:01:44] | Spyhawk: | yes, a terminal loaded, a clock, and a mozilla firefox icon with a picture of a finger print |
| [07:01:57] | charlieS: | me too. that's the first thing I tried :) |
| [07:02:15] | juski: | charlieS: does X reach the edges of your screen? |
| [07:02:18] | charlieS: | Spyhawk: that's the default setting for first login. |
| [07:02:43] | charlieS: | juski: it overscans.. I was trying to shrink so that I could see the edges of the myth menus. |
| [07:03:02] | juski: | charlieS: hmmm |
| [07:03:35] | juski: | I once thought about making a 'calibrated' graphic you could use to guage the amount of overscan you have to enable folks to resize the GUI faster |
| [07:03:43] | charlieS: | juski: it seems like a bug.. if I just shrink, and let it stay uncentered, TV is fine. But if I change the X offset, TV is effected. |
| [07:04:13] | juski: | that tickbox should fix it, for sure. I know cos I use it ;) |
| [07:04:31] | charlieS: | it does, when I'm not fuxing with the offset :) |
| [07:04:32] | juski: | are you running svn head or 0.20-fixes? |
| [07:04:51] | ** charlieS thinks the solution is to have a theme that understands how TVs work, and limits itself to a center rectangle. ** | |
| [07:04:59] | charlieS: | 0.20 |
| [07:05:09] | juski: | charlieS: some themes aren't very overscan friendly |
| [07:05:20] | juski: | both of mine take 5% overscan into account |
| [07:05:51] | ** charlieS is using mythcenter ** | |
| [07:05:54] | ** charlieS tries others ** | |
| [07:05:55] | juski: | but GUI resizing is something that's gonna get a whole lot more friendly fairly soon |
| [07:06:26] | Spyhawk: | any way i can get my old desktop back? it changed all my accounts display format |
| [07:06:48] | juski: | Spyhawk: just make the changes you made to the other account's login |
| [07:07:03] | juski: | you won't have to do it again for that user |
| [07:07:21] | charlieS: | you can copy .gnome2 from the other user account |
| [07:07:28] | charlieS: | juski: what theme do you use? |
| [07:07:39] | juski: | I use my ProjectGrayhem-wide theme |
| [07:07:45] | juski: | www.juski.co.uk/pg/ |
| [07:08:20] | ** charlieS checks it out ** | |
| [07:08:39] | juski: | charlieS: if you have more than 5% overscan there may still be issues with stuff fitting onscreen though |
| [07:09:06] | charlieS: | ~5 is about right. |
| [07:09:28] | juski: | if you have a nvidia VGA card, what I generally do is adjust the overscan so there's no black border left in X, using nvidia-settings |
| [07:10:10] | juski: | I should head to work.. back in a bit |
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| [07:11:37] | charlieS: | people seem to have a much more featurefull nvidia-settings than I do |
| [07:14:30] | charlieS: | menus are still the same.. but nice theme juski :) |
| [07:24:39] | Dagmar: | nvidia-settings hides/shows features based on what it thinks your card supports |
| [07:24:53] | Dagmar: | Plus practically every version of the driver has a slightly different version of the utility |
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| [07:26:36] | Spyhawk: | how do i activate my svideo out under linux on my video card? |
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| [07:28:25] | lineX: | hello? |
| [07:32:00] | lineX: | problem: X overscan with tv-out using s-video from PVR350. I've gone into service mode in the TV and improved the overscan but on the desktop there are still vert and horiz buttons that are not visible. |
| [07:33:48] | charlieS: | so in theory you can run X at a smaller resolution, with the same timings. |
| [07:33:58] | charlieS: | I didn't have much luck with that, though. |
| [07:35:26] | Dagmar: | What are "vert and horiz buttons"? |
| [07:35:53] | charlieS: | window manager menus/etc near the edges of the screen.. |
| [07:36:28] | Dagmar: | So what part of MythTV are those? |
| [07:36:34] | charlieS: | lineX: and note that "correcting" overscan means the edges will likely be curved. |
| [07:37:07] | charlieS: | Dagmar: it applies to mythtv, because they use every pixel and put checkboxes right against the edge :( |
| [07:37:30] | Dagmar: | Ah well |
| [07:37:49] | Dagmar: | When does MythTV show window manager decorations, exactly? |
| [07:38:38] | charlieS: | it's a way to describe it.. you're just itching to say "go to #<distro>" aren't you? :) |
| [07:38:46] | Dagmar: | Nope |
| [07:38:57] | Dagmar: | ...but no one ever listens to me when I say "ther'es nothing to be done" |
| [07:39:10] | Dagmar: | So I might as well run people 'round the primrose path until they get tired enough to accept it. |
| [07:39:14] | charlieS: | Dagmar: there is.. |
| [07:39:20] | Dagmar: | Then feel free to speak it |
| [07:39:35] | charlieS: | mythtv needs to operate within TV scan constraints! |
| [07:40:04] | Dagmar: | Problem being, TV's have all that space already off the edge of the visible display |
| [07:40:13] | ** charlieS doesn't give a shit about WM decorations, but would like to see checkboxes without resizing the GUI (which is buggy) ** | |
| [07:40:17] | charlieS: | Dagmar: right |
| [07:40:33] | Dagmar: | There's a *reason* why most video editors have that curious white box in the middle of hte display area |
| [07:40:49] | lineX: | charlieS: minimizing my hsize and vsize still won't reveal the bottom or sides of my X window |
| [07:40:50] | charlieS: | right. and mythtv should limit its menus to that box. |
| [07:41:00] | Dagmar: | So, until someone puts some code into Myth to make a setting to *pad the drawn area* this is going to stay insouble |
| [07:41:11] | Dagmar: | So again, it's not fixable now |
| [07:41:17] | ** charlieS nods ** | |
| [07:41:30] | Dagmar: | So why were you just attempting to say that it was again? |
| [07:41:36] | charlieS: | lineX: *shrug* you wouldn't like the results anyway. |
| [07:41:55] | charlieS: | Dagmar: I said it was "if mythtv limited itself to the box" |
| [07:42:11] | Dagmar: | No, you didn't. I said it wasn't possible and you contradicted me. |
| [07:42:39] | charlieS: | well you can resize/shift the gui.. sorta. |
| [07:42:47] | charlieS: | Dagmar: I agree with you :P |
| [07:42:48] | Dagmar: | Which does not a bit of good |
| [07:43:34] | lineX: | how do you resize the gui? are you talking about resizing X? that's what I'd like to do... |
| [07:44:05] | charlieS: | lineX: I'm talking about the MythTV GUI. And you don't want to resize X.. the edges will be curved if you do. |
| [07:44:50] | Dagmar: | charlieS: You made the mess. Now you get to clean it up |
| [07:45:19] | charlieS: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Overscan |
| [07:45:22] | charlieS: | done. |
| [07:45:23] | charlieS: | :) |
| [07:45:55] | Dagmar: | LOL |
| [07:45:57] | Dagmar: | "Most GUI elements _should_ fit the screen properly because the theme design guide specifies that a minimum of 5% of the screen's outer area be left empty." |
| [07:46:10] | Dagmar: | It's a shame no one bothered to put that border in the container element for all the setup menus |
| [07:46:51] | charlieS: | I think my overscan is more like 7% or more.. |
| [07:47:00] | Dagmar: | Qt is always going to put dropdown menus wherever it feels like |
| [07:47:14] | Spyhawk: | besides the inputs/outputs on the PVR150 and PVR150 MCE, whats the difference? |
| [07:47:26] | Dagmar: | Spyhawk: Three letters |
| [07:47:29] | charlieS: | I think one comes with a remote? |
| [07:47:41] | Dagmar: | ...and there is no difference in the inputs and outputs |
| [07:47:42] | Spyhawk: | lol |
| [07:47:50] | Dagmar: | A PVR150 card is a PVR150 card is a PVR150 card. |
| [07:47:57] | Spyhawk: | i see two on newegg and the connections on the back ard different |
| [07:48:02] | Dagmar: | The "MCE" just says it don't come in a fancy box |
| [07:48:04] | Spyhawk: | no its not |
| [07:48:11] | ** charlieS got the cheapest he could find, and it worked great. ** | |
| [07:48:13] | Dagmar: | ...it doesn't even necessarily mean it's going to have a remote |
| [07:48:28] | Dagmar: | Spyhawk: Sure you do |
| [07:49:08] | charlieS: | niice, I love how mythweb grabs a random frame from the show to use for displaying in the recordings list.. |
| [07:49:18] | charlieS: | a big ole boob in this one :) |
| [07:49:26] | Dagmar: | Well, it's not random, but otherwise it would ust be a black screen most of th etime |
| [07:49:50] | charlieS: | ah |
| [07:50:30] | charlieS: | I wonder if an algorithm exists to detect the presence of a nipple in an MPEG-2 stream |
| [07:50:35] | Dagmar: | Probbaly |
| [07:51:02] | Dagmar: | I know U of Mich(?) was working on a "naked people filter" a few years back that they'd gotten above 80% accuracy |
| [07:51:15] | charlieS: | wow.. |
| [07:51:31] | charlieS: | so naked people get filtered out? for parental control? |
| [07:51:58] | charlieS: | I guess it has many applications. |
| [07:52:06] | charlieS: | filtering, or the opposite. |
| [07:52:55] | Dagmar: | Actually, it was used for tagging. Not filtered out. |
| [07:53:05] | Dagmar: | It could tell whether or not there was a naked person in the shot |
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| [07:53:41] | charlieS: | It'd be neat to analyze the percentage of frames with nudity, I suppose. |
| [07:54:47] | Chicago: | What does it mean when my mythweb says "!!NoTrans: " before every link? Mythweb looks totally broken. |
| [07:56:21] | Sedorox: | hmmm |
| [07:56:28] | Sedorox: | can't get remote frontend to watch live tv |
| [07:56:40] | Chicago: | What's the error message? |
| [07:57:06] | Sedorox: | 2006-11–06 02:56:04.213 RemoteEncoder::openControlSocket(): Connection timed out. |
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| [07:57:09] | Sedorox: | it looks like |
| [07:57:34] | Sedorox: | 2006-11–06 02:56:04.215 GetEntryAt(-1) failed. |
| [07:57:36] | Sedorox: | after that |
| [07:57:41] | Sedorox: | thats really the only errors |
| [07:57:41] | Mattwj2005: | hey guys :) |
| [07:57:45] | Sedorox: | on the console anyway |
| [07:58:04] | Sedorox: | hey Mattwj2005 |
| [07:58:15] | Mattwj2005: | how is it going Sedorox? |
| [07:58:44] | Sedorox: | eh.. first time issues with mythtv :p |
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| [07:59:25] | Mattwj2005: | oh got you....I am rebuilding my knoppmyth box |
| [07:59:32] | Sedorox: | fun |
| [07:59:46] | Mattwj2005: | not using the newest version...I am using the second newest version |
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| [08:00:32] | Sedorox: | I'm using p11444 iirc |
| [08:00:51] | Mattwj2005: | the newest version is kinda of buggy |
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| [08:01:42] | Sedorox: | hehe |
| [08:01:45] | Sedorox: | .20 you mean? |
| [08:02:05] | Mattwj2005: | nope...the newest version of Knoppmyth |
| [08:02:55] | Sedorox: | ooh ok |
| [08:03:42] | Mattwj2005: | yeah I have been having an audio problem |
| [08:03:51] | Mattwj2005: | the second newest version is more stable |
| [08:05:11] | Sedorox: | ah |
| [08:05:16] | Sedorox: | seems I can't set recording either |
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| [08:39:26] | Spyhawk: | how do i revert back to my old xwin session bootup instead of the over simplified one that myth uses |
| [08:40:07] | Dagmar: | You remove whatever you installed |
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| [08:43:41] | adante: | how's the current state of myth svn – usable? |
| [08:45:49] | Dagmar: | 0.20-fixes is useable |
| [08:45:59] | juski: | svn is generally usable |
| [08:46:00] | Dagmar: | HEAD, is, as *always* not fit for public consumption |
| [08:46:08] | juski: | wouldn't go that far |
| [08:46:11] | Dagmar: | I would |
| [08:46:17] | juski: | yeah well |
| [08:46:22] | juski: | YMMV is what I'd say |
| [08:46:37] | Dagmar: | I'm tired of seeing people reporting the screwball errors they get from compiling something they grabbed while someone was in the *middle* of a checkin |
| [08:46:52] | Dagmar: | They should know that if they pull head they'd better be ready to debug it, but nooo... |
| [08:47:22] | juski: | there's always that. leave em to it |
| [08:47:35] | Dagmar: | But they *whine* |
| [08:47:43] | Dagmar: | ...and I'm not able to remotely stab them. |
| [08:47:50] | juski: | people whine too much anyway |
| [08:47:54] | ** LLyric idly wonders why his Athlon X2 3800+ doesn't seem to be able to play content at 800x600 smoothly. ** | |
| [08:48:15] | Dagmar: | Probably carbon buildup |
| [08:49:05] | juski: | LLyric: something is prolly fucked up. If my epia running at 1Ghz can play mpeg2 720x576, your box is very ill |
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| [08:49:22] | LLyric: | Yeah, I presume it's the X11 config. |
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| [08:49:34] | LLyric: | That seems pretty hard to get right :/ |
| [08:50:01] | juski: | I'd expect even if you'd not installed proper vga drivers, a 3800 would be able to play any SDTV without a problem |
| [08:50:18] | juski: | what's so hard about getting your X config right? |
| [08:50:23] | LLyric: | It's HDTV content, but only playing at 800x600. Which is another issue :/ |
| [08:50:25] | juski: | install vga drivers, tell X to use em.. |
| [08:50:40] | juski: | why only 800x600 then? |
| [08:51:25] | LLyric: | Because, although my TV supports 1080i in via component, when I configure X for HD1080i, it comes out ... offset |
| [08:51:38] | Dagmar: | In other words, carbon buildup. |
| [08:51:39] | juski: | don't tell me you're capturing HD & playing it out over an svideo connection... |
| [08:51:41] | LLyric: | Looks like every second line is offset a bit, meaning that everything is blurry / has a shadow |
| [08:52:01] | LLyric: | juski: there are multiple frontends, but this is just one of them |
| [08:52:02] | juski: | sounds like you need a modeline for that TV |
| [08:52:23] | LLyric: | juski: sounds like I do, you're right. How would I get one, without windows and that tuning program? |
| [08:52:34] | adante: | juski: yeah, i've been caught with my pants down a few times, just thought i'd check :] (and yeah.. too lazy to keep track of mailinglist:) |
| [08:52:35] | LLyric: | My HD settop box works great |
| [08:52:38] | juski: | look in the mythtv wiki |
| [08:53:09] | LLyric: | We should probably get the performance working properly first? |
| [08:53:16] | juski: | even google for |
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| [08:53:21] | LLyric: | I've love your help on this :) |
| [08:53:31] | juski: | 'modeline' and 'make/model of TV' |
| [08:53:39] | LLyric: | old/crappy/rate tv |
| [08:53:54] | Dagmar: | Google will have tons of accurate hits for that |
| [08:54:02] | LLyric: | hehe :_) |
| [08:54:24] | LLyric: | It's a "Toshiba 46VW9UA" |
| [08:54:31] | juski: | I can't be arsed to help today. it's monday morning |
| [08:54:35] | LLyric: | no results for "46VW9UA modeline" |
| [08:54:35] | Dagmar: | Don't tell us, tell Google. |
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| [08:55:04] | LLyric: | Is there an interactive modeline tuner thing, like there used to be? |
| [08:55:16] | Dagmar: | In what reality was this? |
| [08:55:37] | LLyric: | In the early X days, we had to create all our own modelines byb hand |
| [08:55:50] | juski: | xvidtune ? |
| [08:55:53] | LLyric: | And there was some X tool, that took keypresses, and changed the settings a bit at a time |
| [08:55:56] | LLyric: | Yeah, that's probably it |
| [08:56:06] | Dagmar: | xvidtune is the only thing that ever came close to fitting that description. |
| [08:56:16] | LLyric: | It was 10+ years ago, I forget :) |
| [08:56:22] | Dagmar: | I didn't. |
| [08:56:24] | juski: | there are online ones now |
| [08:56:51] | juski: | and no, you needn't worry about blowing up your TV |
| [08:57:19] | LLyric: | I'm just a bit bummed that setting my nv to "HD1080i" didn't just work :) |
| [08:57:26] | juski: | nv? blech |
| [08:57:35] | LLyric: | ATI sucks worse |
| [08:57:44] | LLyric: | My laptop is ATI, and it's a real pain |
| [08:57:47] | juski: | nv? not nvidia? blech |
| [08:58:03] | LLyric: | Not literally "nv", using binary driver of course :) |
| [08:58:10] | juski: | heh |
| [08:58:22] | juski: | the open source ones suck arse IME |
| [08:58:32] | LLyric: | Yeah. For sure. |
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| [09:06:23] | juski: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Modeline_Database |
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| [09:15:59] | Mattwj2005: | nothing like compiling the kernel 3:15 in the morning :) |
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| [09:23:52] | juski: | dammit my cable box zapper script was borked.. was stripping '50' from the channel numbers.. 50 is the prefix I use :) |
| [09:27:13] | juski: | I'd already fixed it but hadn't copied the fixed script to the new box.. heh |
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| [09:38:03] | juski: | sudo apt-get install lynx |
| [09:38:09] | juski: | feck |
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| [09:47:13] | ** LLyric completely fails to get it working nicely ** | |
| [09:47:56] | LLyric: | Is a GeForce 6600 GT just a crap card then? Or my crappy tv? |
| [09:48:36] | ivor: | the world is going mad. http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35511 |
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| [10:03:10] | LLyric: | Aw man, when I plug in a CRT monitor, mythtv+linux are beautiful... Smooth, crisp, fast. |
| [10:03:16] | LLyric: | It's just the TV out that's really bad |
| [10:03:59] | juski: | ivor: mornin. how are the scrapes? recovered? |
| [10:04:23] | juski: | LLyric: you need to fiddle with modelines & stuff & get your component out working properly |
| [10:04:39] | ivor: | juski: elbows still badly bruised. can't rest them on anything. and I keep forgetting. |
| [10:04:51] | LLyric: | The nvidia-settings thing only says 1024x768 for the tv, is that a problem? |
| [10:08:04] | juski: | ivor: ouchy |
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| [10:08:31] | juski: | LLyric: if you have a T Vwhich has component input, why are you even bothering with the TV out? |
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| [10:08:56] | LLyric: | Don't I need to? |
| [10:09:35] | juski: | if your TV has _component_ (i.e. not just composite) input you should use it to get the max. possible quality |
| [10:10:01] | LLyric: | It's connected with component out now... but if I don't tell xorg.conf to use tv out, nothing gets displayed. |
| [10:10:16] | juski: | component? you sure? |
| [10:10:21] | LLyric: | Of course |
| [10:10:26] | LLyric: | The same component-out cables (and connector) which work great with my HD settop box |
| [10:10:36] | juski: | hmmm |
| [10:10:41] | LLyric: | RGB, three cables. |
| [10:10:48] | juski: | TVOutput type in xorg.conf? |
| [10:11:05] | juski: | set that to 'component' ? |
| [10:11:22] | LLyric: | That's not understood – creates errors in output |
| [10:11:32] | LLyric: | Even the nvidia docs say composite or s-video |
| [10:13:57] | juski: | after looking here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-664010.html maybe you could change the "TVStandard" line to say "1080i" |
| [10:14:07] | LLyric: | That was the first thing I tried :) |
| [10:14:20] | LLyric: | Then it comes out with the interlace/offset issue I describe at the start |
| [10:14:31] | LLyric: | It looks 95% fine, just offset |
| [10:15:01] | ** LLyric notes the *beta* drivers now support "component" as a setting ** | |
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| [10:15:09] | LLyric: | http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_ . . . endix-h.html |
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| [10:29:58] | Spyhawk: | LLyric what distro of linux do you use? |
| [10:30:10] | Spyhawk: | for your Myth |
| [10:34:16] | LLyric: | fc6 |
| [10:34:26] | LLyric: | was fc5 and before that fc4 |
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| [10:42:04] | je_fro: | howdy folks...anybody seen the "green/pink rectangle effect" before? --> http://dev.gentoo.org/~je_fro/images/dsc03139.jpg |
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| [10:53:44] | juski: | grrr bloody apache is still reporting its version number in error messages |
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| [10:56:56] | BULLE: | LLLyric: so you are running mythtv 0.20 on fc6 ? any problems ? or is it something you could recomend ? |
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| [11:08:57] | LLLyric: | It's fine, except I'm having issues with my video driver, which I had before anyway :) |
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| [11:12:58] | BULLE: | LLLyric: nvidia or ati or something else ? |
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| [11:24:04] | Dagmar: | juski: Dude, it's not hard to turn that off |
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| [11:49:01] | juski: | Dagmar: I knew how to do it in a previous version of apache, but not this one. nm I'll work it out eventually |
| [11:49:46] | Dagmar: | Google for "prodonly". :) |
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| [11:50:08] | Dagmar: | Usually I'm a little more brutal than that and just patch the version number out of the daemon entirely. |
| [11:51:01] | juski: | heh |
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| [12:12:43] | ** juski laughs quietly at http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/11/06/torchwood/ ** | |
| [12:14:19] | xzcvczx: | sparkler bombs :S |
| [12:14:40] | xzcvczx: | anyoe know what timezone uc berkeleys in? |
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| [12:15:30] | psofa: | can a sempron 1.6ghz do 1080p? |
| [12:16:02] | Tommck: | is it normal for the Internal player not to be able to skip forward and back in an AVI? |
| [12:16:07] | juski: | psofa: record it, yeah |
| [12:16:12] | Tommck: | xzcvczx – Pacific |
| [12:16:28] | xzcvczx: | Tommck: pst? |
| [12:16:39] | psofa: | juski, lol.can it at least decode 720p? |
| [12:16:42] | Tommck: | xzcvczx – yeah |
| [12:17:03] | xzcvczx: | cheers |
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| [12:17:15] | juski: | psofa: not without xvmc, and even then chances are slim |
| [12:17:16] | xzcvczx: | silly countries with multiple timezones |
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| [12:17:34] | Tommck: | silly tiny countries :) |
| [12:18:41] | Tommck: | :)' |
| [12:19:03] | Tommck: | so anyone know if not being able to skip forward or back is normal for an AVI with the Internal Player? |
| [12:19:21] | xzcvczx: | its not |
| [12:19:30] | xzcvczx: | unless the avi isnt indexed |
| [12:19:51] | Tommck: | xzcvczx – it is the result of transcoding a dvd in "excellent" settings. |
| [12:19:58] | Tommck: | how do I tell if it's indexed or not? |
| [12:20:02] | psofa: | juski, any chart where i can see how each processor performs with decoding? |
| [12:20:06] | Hoxzer: | ooh, god damn has somebody else notice any change in mythweb when moving from apache 2.1 to 2.2 |
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| [12:20:30] | Hoxzer: | I'm having some serious problems getting it work with require user option |
| [12:20:43] | xzcvczx: | Tommck: it should be indexed then you sure it successfully completed? |
| [12:20:48] | juski: | psofa: nope. YMMV. get as fast as you can afford. and if you still can't afford fast enough, sell internal organs or something |
| [12:21:05] | psofa: | :) |
| [12:21:33] | Tommck: | xzcvczx – given the typical error notifications in Myth, I have no idea ;) |
| [12:21:49] | Tommck: | xzcvczx – never got an error. |
| [12:21:50] | xzcvczx: | how big is the file? |
| [12:22:04] | xzcvczx: | thats typical |
| [12:22:26] | Tommck: | xzcvczx 2.1GB |
| [12:23:19] | xzcvczx: | try running in mplayer maybe and jump around a bit? |
| [12:23:40] | xzcvczx: | well see if u can |
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| [12:24:12] | Tommck: | xzcvczx – guess I can try that.. |
| [12:25:18] | Tommck: | xzcvczx – Mplayer works fine jumping around |
| [12:40:58] | ** juski lightens the load on his inbox considerably ** | |
| [12:41:30] | Tommck: | so, xzcvczx – any other ideas about not being able to skip forward and back in AVI? |
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| [13:06:53] | psofa: | juski, what about an amd64 3200+ .Thats the max my badget allows me |
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| [13:08:23] | Dagmar: | Then that's what you'll have to be satisfied with then |
| [13:11:23] | Zider: | dammit.. I hate when the burner gets DMA turned off without me noticing it until I already started burning :P |
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| [13:15:48] | david_: | Hi. |
| [13:16:10] | david_: | Can a thin client be used as a MythTV frontend? |
| [13:16:33] | david_: | Anyone here? |
| [13:16:38] | Zider: | yes |
| [13:16:46] | Zider: | I guess it shouldbe possible |
| [13:17:24] | Tommck: | david_ – define "thin client" |
| [13:17:25] | david_: | Even if the thin client had to play and burn CDs and DVDs? |
| [13:17:54] | Zider: | burning hardly uses any resources |
| [13:18:19] | david_: | thin client: PC connected to fat client/server that does all the work. |
| [13:18:48] | Zider: | but the thin client still needssome hardware |
| [13:18:48] | Tommck: | david_ – "all the work" ? |
| [13:19:02] | Tommck: | Myth supports front-end/back-end setup |
| [13:19:08] | david_: | most of it. Whatever gives the best system performance |
| [13:19:49] | Zider: | what kind of hw does your thin client have? |
| [13:19:59] | david_: | OK then, what would be the minimum requirements for a MythTV frontend? |
| [13:20:37] | Tommck: | david_ – want HD support? |
| [13:20:47] | Zider: | I believe I've read about PII 450's doing frontend jobs.. |
| [13:20:49] | david_: | Zider: PII 450Mhz, 192MB RAM, 4MB VGA card, onboard sound, Pioneer DVR-108 |
| [13:20:51] | Zider: | not HDTV tho |
| [13:21:15] | david_: | Tommck: No |
| [13:21:22] | Zider: | should be enough.. RAM is a bit tight, but should be expandable |
| [13:21:41] | david_: | It's already maxed out with 3 x 64MB sticks |
| [13:21:53] | _are_: | while we are at it: what would be the requirements with HDTV? |
| [13:21:58] | david_: | I could track down some 128's though. |
| [13:22:08] | Zider: | _are_: lots andlots of CPU ;) |
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| [13:23:45] | david_: | Would the thin client need a hard drive at all/ |
| [13:23:46] | david_: | ? |
| [13:23:52] | _are_: | I am thinking of placing my backend server into the cellar and setting up something preferably noiseless into the living room to watch tv there. DVB-S and seems more and more gets sent in hdtv here. |
| [13:24:30] | _are_: | david_: linux can perfectly netboot and as there exists a knopmyth write access is obviously not needed -> no hard drive needed |
| [13:24:30] | Tommck: | david_ – to boot? |
| [13:24:44] | david_: | i could network boot it. |
| [13:25:57] | david_: | Does anyone have MythTV running on their laptop, a la Front Row style? |
| [13:26:11] | Zider: | front row? |
| [13:26:38] | pepsiman: | is there a setting to tell the backend not to touch the capture card when not capturing? |
| [13:27:22] | david_: | Like win MCE, but's Apple's version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Row |
| [13:27:35] | david_: | Zider:^^^ |
| [13:27:56] | _are_: | pepsiman: mythtv-setup, 1st menu, there's a checkbox somewhere |
| [13:28:07] | Zider: | who the heck wants anything like apple does it? ;) |
| [13:28:35] | david_: | OK forget the Front Row crap. |
| [13:28:41] | Zider: | jk :) |
| [13:31:24] | david_: | I guess that's a no then. |
| [13:32:13] | Tommck: | pepsiman – if it's a DVB card, I believe that's part of the setup of the card |
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| [13:32:37] | david_: | How hard would MythTV be to set up for someone with relatively little GNU+Linux experience? |
| [13:32:50] | Tommck: | HARD |
| [13:32:57] | david_: | Really? |
| [13:33:06] | Tommck: | I think so. |
| [13:33:20] | david_: | Damn. I would be in that catergory. |
| [13:33:31] | Tommck: | basically, when the first thing goes wrong, it would be hard |
| [13:33:46] | david_: | Yeah I've tried a few times. |
| [13:34:22] | Tommck: | but, as Isaac likes to point out, this is a project for developers, not end users |
| [13:34:35] | david_: | How handy. |
| [13:35:38] | Merlin83b: | david_: It might be worth your while trying KnoppMyth – worked for me :) |
| [13:36:09] | david_: | I would still have to get the backend up and running :(. |
| [13:37:13] | david_: | How big is KnoppMyth to download? |
| [13:37:20] | psofa: | anyone with an amd64 3200+ whos able to decode mpeg2 1080p? |
| [13:37:37] | Tommck: | psofa – if you have an nvidia graphics card, that'll be overkill |
| [13:37:46] | psofa: | ? |
| [13:38:08] | Tommck: | oh wait... 1080p? not 1080i? |
| [13:38:18] | psofa: | p |
| [13:38:21] | Tommck: | what source do you have that's 1080p? |
| [13:38:25] | psofa: | i dont |
| [13:38:27] | LLLyric: | BTW, I switched back to s-video, and it's much cleaner than component. Go figure. |
| [13:38:38] | psofa: | but i want to be hdready with this purchase |
| [13:38:38] | Tommck: | psofa – then why do you need 1080p? |
| [13:38:49] | Tommck: | psofa – HD is 1080i max |
| [13:39:08] | psofa: | err okay, then will it do 1080i? |
| [13:39:10] | Zider: | LLLyric: don't you mean composite? |
| [13:39:15] | Tommck: | psofa – yes |
| [13:39:19] | LLLyric: | No, component. |
| [13:39:24] | Tommck: | I have a P4 3.2 (old non-dual core) |
| [13:39:38] | Tommck: | it will decode and play 1080i with only about 25% CPU usage |
| [13:39:46] | david_: | What does the p stand for again? |
| [13:39:52] | psofa: | progressive |
| [13:39:53] | Tommck: | progressive |
| [13:40:03] | david_: | Ah, yes. |
| [13:40:07] | LLLyric: | I can't get component-out of my card working nicely. It's a nvidia 6600 GT with component video outputs (via breakout dongle thing) |
| [13:40:38] | LLLyric: | Although my TV handles it fine (from my 1080i settop box), I can't get the card working properly. It *almost* works. |
| [13:40:42] | Zider: | I've never seen component out on a gfx card |
| [13:40:55] | Zider: | unless it's some sort of VGA-to-scart adapter |
| [13:40:57] | Tommck: | Zider – they have them now |
| [13:41:21] | LLLyric: | It has a thing that looks like a big s-video cable, more pins. That breaks out to RGB (component) + s-video |
| [13:41:43] | Zider: | mkay |
| [13:42:09] | Zider: | I must be outdated then ;) |
| [13:42:21] | LLLyric: | It's only a 6600GT, not even that new |
| [13:42:33] | david_: | I'm off. Thanks. |
| [13:42:35] | Zider: | mine is a 6600GT, and it doesn't have it :P |
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| [13:42:49] | david_: | Bye! |
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| [13:43:03] | puzzled: | hello |
| [13:43:05] | Zider: | 6600GT is relatively new, just not top notch in performance |
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| [13:44:28] | ** LLLyric reads off the box: WinFast PX6600GT TDH ** | |
| [13:45:01] | puzzled: | can anyone confirm that the Hauppage WinTV PVR-350 has a video out |
| [13:45:36] | LLLyric: | puzzled: yes it does, but it sucks for anything except recordings that the pvr-350 made |
| [13:46:08] | psofa: | Zider, i have an 6600gt with component.It has sth like a dongle that breaks into many outputs |
| [13:46:26] | Zider: | psofa: from some special port? |
| [13:46:27] | psofa: | ah its been said :P |
| [13:46:33] | puzzled: | LLLyric: thanks for the info. So you recommend e.g. a cheaper PVR-150 and a videocard with video out? |
| [13:46:35] | psofa: | Zider, yes |
| [13:46:47] | psofa: | sth like an svideo out but with more pins |
| [13:46:48] | Zider: | I've got VGA, digital (whatever it's called) and svideo on mine :P |
| [13:46:50] | LLLyric: | puzzled: if you've got free-to-air digital, that's a much better way to go |
| [13:47:04] | LLLyric: | psofa: did you get the component-out working with 1080i? |
| [13:47:22] | psofa: | no i havent even tried the tv out on this card |
| [13:47:41] | puzzled: | LLLyric: I just have plain cable |
| [13:47:45] | psofa: | i actually have never seen not even 720p :( |
| [13:49:11] | LLLyric: | It kicks ass. But I can't get it anymore. Not with myth, and my video card with my tv anyway :( |
| [13:51:13] | LLLyric: | Hmmm, looking in the box, it looks like the videocard came with a game called Splinter Cell. |
| [13:51:22] | LLLyric: | I've heard of that, wonder if it's any good |
| [13:52:31] | puzzled: | anyone have a recommendation for a videocard with good video out quality? Don't need hdtv. |
| [13:52:51] | LLLyric: | This card has great s-video quality |
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| [13:55:02] | Neeesat25: | Juski? |
| [13:55:52] | puzzled: | LLLyric: you mean the WinFast PX6600GT TDH you mentioned a bit back? |
| [13:56:11] | LLLyric: | Sure |
| [13:58:13] | puzzled: | got to go. thanks for the info LLLyric |
| [13:58:28] | LLLyric: | ok |
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| [14:06:57] | stf: | Hello group... |
| [14:07:14] | pepsiman: | Tommck: I have that set. Is it normal for mythbackend to have the device opened 19 times? |
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| [14:18:52] | stf: | I've got a problem to recording. When i try to record from the tv guide, i always have a "recorder failed" into the satus zone. I can watch live tv and see live tv into the "watch recording". Does any one have a solution !?! |
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| [14:35:31] | stf: | Any body's here.... Hello.... Honey!!! It's me I'm home.... |
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| [14:47:49] | evil_j: | stf? is that a typo? |
| [14:53:44] | Dagmar: | stf: You might want to make sure that if you have more than one tuner defined that they both actually work |
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| [14:58:01] | RyeBrye: | this page made me laugh... I think they are serious: |
| [14:58:01] | RyeBrye: | http://j-walk.com/other/wifispray/ |
| [14:58:26] | RyeBrye: | Man, some of that Wi-Fi spray might make my streaming video from my wireless backend faster |
| [15:00:11] | Dagmar: | "...and most versions of Linux" *snicker* |
| [15:00:58] | RyeBrye: | Oh, I just read at the bottom that it's from a humor blog... |
| [15:01:16] | RyeBrye: | the guy could probably sell a ton of this stuff for $10 a bottle if he included packaging that had these outrageous claims |
| [15:01:20] | RyeBrye: | (as gag gifts) |
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| [15:10:57] | evil_j: | maybe they could sell the same stuff as 'audio spray' to improve the 'sound' of a room :) |
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| [15:24:03] | xzcvczx: | :S my computer just reboot when i put a dvd in :o |
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| [15:30:42] | xzcvczx: | RyeBrye: if you just read the disclaimer well before the part where it says its a joke its obviously a joke |
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| [16:15:38] | Juski: | /msg NickServ IDENTIFY nes00sha |
| [16:15:56] | Juski: | er... |
| [16:16:53] | Juski: | oh feck |
| [16:17:14] | RaYmAn-Bx: | lol |
| [16:17:23] | RaYmAn-Bx: | that damn space, eh :P |
| [16:17:57] | Juski: | no nickserv stuff is working here.. bollocks |
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| [16:20:36] | juski: | silly irssi |
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| [16:32:53] | laga: | re |
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| [16:37:17] | psofa: | has anyone tried the stock amd fan/hs in a mythbox? is it loud? |
| [16:37:45] | psofa: | or most importantly can i change the fan in the future? |
| [16:38:03] | defend: | i dont see why not |
| [16:38:11] | defend: | it a computer ;p |
| [16:38:45] | defend: | FN~juski, hey mate i got a question for you would u happen to be arround? |
| [16:39:20] | psofa: | defend, err ffs i mean if the fan is hardmounted on the hs |
| [16:39:44] | laga: | psofa: you could just exchange the whole shebang: heatsink and fan |
| [16:39:52] | defend: | rya |
| [16:40:06] | defend: | and what do u mean hardmounted |
| [16:40:14] | defend: | go a couple screws on it |
| [16:40:15] | defend: | lol |
| [16:41:28] | psofa: | laga, if i did buy another hs id buy one of those that require the mobo to get out of the case first. |
| [16:41:42] | psofa: | and thats a pita |
| [16:41:47] | ** juski is not available right now. please pipe your message to /dev/null ** | |
| [16:41:59] | psofa: | so noone has tried the stock hsf? |
| [16:42:11] | Merlin83b: | psofa: Just try it! |
| [16:43:25] | laga: | last thing i've heard about AMD heatsinks was back in the socket A days. they sucked then ;) |
| [16:44:07] | psofa: | yeah me too :P |
| [16:44:10] | defend: | lol ;p was woundering if u have ever tried to compile myth on a bsd system ... i started to but was getting an error in httprequests.h about sendfile64 which i am assuming is because bsd and linux handles sendfile diff |
| [16:44:30] | psofa: | but the damn xp-90 hs isnt out of the box compatible with am2 :( |
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| [16:45:18] | juski: | bsd != linux |
| [16:45:23] | juski: | mythtv is for linux |
| [16:45:41] | juski: | good luck with that |
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| [16:46:16] | xzcvczx: | juski: changed your password yet? :P |
| [16:46:30] | juski: | yeah |
| [16:46:36] | laga: | psofa: the xp 120 sounds better :) |
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| [16:47:16] | psofa: | laga, it isnt compatible either |
| [16:47:45] | laga: | psofa: :( |
| [16:47:56] | psofa: | btw wtf is up with the ddr2 memory.do i need 533 or 6xx memory for a 3200+? |
| [16:48:37] | psofa: | pre am2 you just needed a pc3200mhz ddr mem to run at stock |
| [16:49:51] | laga: | psofa: i was gonna buy the successor of the xp-120 for my conroe box. till i saw a picture of the heatsink mounted on the board. http://pics.computerbase.de/1/5/0/9/8/2.jpg |
| [16:50:10] | psofa: | lol |
| [16:50:16] | psofa: | thats a sick hs |
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| [16:51:28] | laga: | psofa: gotta love it. |
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| [16:56:37] | psofa: | laga, isnt this kinda sick too? http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.808013 |
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| [17:00:33] | cryptonic: | is there anyone here that can help with database problems with myth on ubuntu? |
| [17:02:20] | juski: | just ask the question |
| [17:05:00] | wreckage: | after installing myth and my hauppauge 350, the X and Mythtv display on my TV seems to be cutoff on the top and left side. Any quick fix for this? My xorg.conf shows 720x480 resolution. I tried changing this to 640x480 but nothing seemed to change |
| [17:05:53] | Joffray: | that's a scan issue |
| [17:05:53] | ivor: | wreckage: adjust the mythtv offset in settings to be smaller. |
| [17:05:57] | Joffray: | not resolution |
| [17:06:17] | ivor: | well the offset to be larger, the window to be smaller. :) |
| [17:06:39] | cryptonic: | well im getting an issue with myth not being able to connect to the mysql database in the setup |
| [17:06:42] | defend: | i know juski but i would like to try to get it to work to expand the overall userbase of myth |
| [17:07:07] | juski: | defend: bah humbug |
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| [17:07:35] | defend: | haha thats the attitude :) |
| [17:07:47] | defend: | i will get it to work if it is the last thing i due :) |
| [17:07:56] | juski: | cryptonic: if you can log into mysql with the mythtv user on a console, then the contents of ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt are wrong |
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| [17:08:03] | defend: | i just havent had enough time to figure out a patch yet |
| [17:08:27] | juski: | defend: funny, but I don't see getting mythtv to work on freebsd as a way to expand the userbase somehow – but to each their own ;) |
| [17:08:30] | laga: | defend: you could annoy GreyFoxx a bit, he's run mythtv on openbsd before. |
| [17:09:08] | defend: | how do you not see it epending the user base? alot of people use freebsd, newbsd, openbsd |
| [17:09:11] | ivor: | defend: http://mythtv.son.org/tiki-index.php |
| [17:09:19] | cryptonic: | wheres the .mythtv |
| [17:09:37] | cryptonic: | i found a mythtv folder in the home folder but not .mythtv |
| [17:09:55] | juski: | defend: nevermind. I don't personally know anyone who uses BSD |
| [17:10:05] | juski: | cryptonic: do you know the mythtv mysql user's password? |
| [17:10:09] | Joffray: | cryptonic |
| [17:10:11] | laga: | i have a PC-bsd install somewhere on a spare hdd. |
| [17:10:13] | defend: | ivor i know but i want to get it to work with .18 and up |
| [17:10:16] | Joffray: | cd /home/mythtv/.mythtv/ |
| [17:11:18] | cryptonic: | is that the folder with a .qt folder inside? |
| [17:11:38] | Joffray: | no |
| [17:11:42] | Joffray: | I gotta goto class |
| [17:11:58] | defend: | alot of people use some type of verient .. and i figure since i use it i would try to help expand myths base to possible include it and get it added to the bsds ports systems |
| [17:12:28] | juski: | cryptonic: do you know the mythtv mysql user's password? |
| [17:12:42] | cryptonic: | mythuser? |
| [17:12:58] | cryptonic: | i dont know, i usually would set things up by default |
| [17:13:03] | juski: | do you know the password for the mythtv mysql user? |
| [17:13:14] | juski: | right then. the password is stored in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [17:13:43] | cryptonic: | nope, how would i as in i cant find .mythtv either its not in the home directory, im taking a look for it now |
| [17:13:53] | juski: | did you install mythtv-database ? |
| [17:14:19] | cryptonic: | yep |
| [17:14:29] | juski: | I'm not sure you're even reading what I'm saying |
| [17:14:42] | juski: | there should be a file in /etc/mythtv called mysql.txt |
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| [17:14:57] | wreckage: | ivor: any idea how to adjust it for X in general, wouldn't that take care of it in mythtv as well? |
| [17:15:00] | juski: | and it should have the database login details for the 'mythtv' mysql user |
| [17:15:18] | juski: | wreckage: newsflash: you can't |
| [17:15:52] | ivor: | wreckage: no you're doing TV out, which is producing an over-scanned display. |
| [17:16:17] | ivor: | the only option would be if your Video card provided settings to control over/ under scan. |
| [17:16:19] | wreckage: | so basically screw X I shouldn't be using it on my tv, and just fix it through mythtv |
| [17:16:37] | juski: | unless you can find a way to stop the funny little red green & blue men jumping off the edges of the screen every time... poof |
| [17:16:46] | ivor: | however... if you're displaying video then you want it overscanned anyway. you just want the apps to fit inside the visible area. |
| [17:17:01] | ivor: | hmm do we have a wiki page on overscan? |
| [17:17:06] | juski: | yup |
| [17:17:09] | wreckage: | I guess as long as I can get myth looking good then it doesn't really matter |
| [17:17:17] | cryptonic: | juski : DBHostName=localhost |
| [17:17:17] | cryptonic: | DBUserName=mythtv |
| [17:17:17] | cryptonic: | DBName=mythconverg |
| [17:17:17] | cryptonic: | DBPassword=vwyqyxux |
| [17:17:40] | juski: | cryptonic: well done you found the file I told you would exist, in the location I said it would be |
| [17:17:52] | cryptonic: | i set up the frontend accordingly and still keeps repeating the same steps saying could not connect to database |
| [17:17:57] | wreckage: | should mythtv be able to see avi's when playing videos? |
| [17:18:04] | juski: | avi's what? |
| [17:18:07] | wreckage: | it uses mplayer to play movies right? |
| [17:18:07] | juski: | and who is avi? |
| [17:18:09] | wreckage: | divx, xvid |
| [17:18:13] | wreckage: | sorry |
| [17:18:23] | juski: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Overscan |
| [17:18:43] | ivor: | excellent. |
| [17:18:49] | wreckage: | agreed |
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| [17:21:00] | cryptonic: | does anyone know where the .mythtv folder is located in ubuntu? |
| [17:21:21] | GreyFoxx: | wreckage: Myth has it's own internal player or can be configured to use any external player when playing mythvideo stuff |
| [17:21:32] | juski: | in /home/mythtv, usually |
| [17:21:32] | wreckage: | cryptonic: /home/user/? |
| [17:21:40] | juski: | or /home/$user |
| [17:21:46] | wreckage: | GreyFoxx: thanks |
| [17:22:02] | juski: | cryptonic: in the home folder of any user who runs mythfrontend funnily enough |
| [17:23:48] | juski: | time I wasn't here anyway... |
| [17:24:03] | Neeesat25: | Juski fx5200 rocks |
| [17:24:18] | cryptonic: | i can find a mythtv folder but not .mythtv does it matter? |
| [17:24:35] | Neeesat25: | I have try it with tv out and has nothing to do with my older cards |
| [17:25:19] | laga: | cryptonic: you do realize that .folders are hidden? |
| [17:26:41] | Dagmar: | Learn to use `ls -al` |
| [17:28:50] | cryptonic: | should i replace the mysql.txt in the .mythtv folder? |
| [17:31:30] | Dagmar: | Only if you know what you're doing. |
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| [17:38:32] | Con-fuze-ed: | anyone here using one of those cheap usb dvb-t (HDTV) devices here in the US? |
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| [17:58:39] | GreyFoxx: | ls -la |
| [17:58:40] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [17:58:47] | Con-fuze-ed: | hehe |
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| [18:09:56] | laga: | yay, annoying scripts FTW |
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| [18:13:31] | scopeuk: | laga lol |
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| [18:25:45] | juski: | "how do I start mythtv without x?".. ffs give me a break |
| [18:26:07] | juski: | sudo apt-get install vdr :-P |
| [18:26:19] | laga: | :> |
| [18:29:59] | BULLE: | some people have the wierd notion that X is horribly resource hungry |
| [18:30:12] | BULLE: | and want OPTIMAL linux box, so no X, only mythtv |
| [18:30:51] | juski: | it's not even hungry for disk space |
| [18:31:14] | juski: | not when you consider certain mythtv based distro take up 128MB uncompressed ;) |
| [18:31:16] | BULLE: | well, nothing in comparison to what recorded video takes |
| [18:31:22] | BULLE: | indeed |
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| [18:56:20] | Paladine: | bloody sky *GRUMBLE* |
| [18:56:46] | Paladine: | stupid stb unset a bunch of my scheduling |
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| [18:59:32] | juski: | sounds to me like you need an IR blaster of some sort Paladine |
| [18:59:54] | Paladine: | I have one, I just haven't rebooted the box since I made it 2 months ago |
| [19:00:27] | juski: | I heard Moyles talking about $ky plu$ on his radio show this morning. how I laughed. "oh, it's not recording anymore.. just unplug it... if that doesn't work you'll have to do a full reset but you'll lose all your recordings".. muhahahaha |
| [19:01:02] | juski: | so the box had locked up & wasn't listening to the IR blaster? gnarly :( |
| [19:01:02] | Paladine: | this is regular sky |
| [19:01:13] | Paladine: | I had a bunch of shows set on series link with autoview enabled |
| [19:01:19] | juski: | our NTL bag-o-bones does that |
| [19:01:32] | juski: | ahhh |
| [19:01:34] | Paladine: | went to watch torchwood which "recorded" last night |
| [19:01:41] | Paladine: | and got Kalifornia instead |
| [19:01:45] | juski: | you didn't miss much tbh |
| [19:01:50] | Paladine: | cos the box hadn't changed channels |
| [19:01:58] | juski: | there was some good dialogue though ;) |
| [19:02:12] | Paladine: | so just checked my personal planner and it has unset simpsons, torchwood, the unit and stargate atlantis |
| [19:02:28] | juski: | they're doing a lot of 'insert/recycle DH CGI here' |
| [19:02:29] | Paladine: | and now I can't even get a series link on simpsons |
| [19:02:43] | juski: | just erm.. let myth handle that ;) |
| [19:02:52] | Paladine: | that would require rebooting my box |
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| [19:03:11] | juski: | ahh that precious commodity they call 'uptime' |
| [19:03:25] | juski: | uptime is meaningless if the box isn't working right though isn't it? |
| [19:03:33] | Paladine: | nothing to do with uptime, everything to do with a very long research job running |
| [19:03:42] | juski: | I see.. .oops |
| [19:03:43] | Paladine: | and the box is running fine |
| [19:03:53] | Paladine: | it is the set top box that is not scheduling properly |
| [19:03:55] | laga: | research? distributed.net? :) |
| [19:04:07] | juski: | so why'd you need to reboot your mythbox for the ir blaster to work again? |
| [19:04:20] | Paladine: | not to get it working again, to get it working period |
| [19:04:27] | Paladine: | I don't have my serial port plugged in |
| [19:04:37] | juski: | pci based? |
| [19:04:41] | Paladine: | yes |
| [19:04:58] | juski: | ouch! |
| [19:04:59] | Paladine: | well not pci based |
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| [19:05:09] | juski: | open the box jobby.. I geddit |
| [19:05:15] | Paladine: | just uses one of the pci holesin the case |
| [19:05:29] | Paladine: | the port actually plugs into the mobo |
| [19:05:37] | juski: | gotcha |
| [19:05:42] | Paladine: | but I am not gonna risk plugging it in powered up |
| [19:05:57] | juski: | I would.. but then I do all kinds of insane cack |
| [19:06:11] | juski: | not to my mythbox though |
| [19:06:31] | Paladine: | I have broken boards before when playing with serial ports with the power on |
| [19:06:33] | scopeuk: | my myth box is currently sans hdd |
| [19:06:39] | juski: | heh. this is a record so far.. 19:06:37 up 4 days, 21 min, 5 users, load average: 0.06, 0.17, 0.36 |
| [19:06:40] | Paladine: | granted I was prodding it with a metal fork |
| [19:06:45] | Paladine: | but, once bitten twice shy |
| [19:07:12] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [19:07:37] | juski: | 0.20's been behaving itself, and so has ubuntu now my hardware is properly modprobed. damn hotplug/udev shittiness |
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| [19:08:05] | juski: | mythtv-setup.. insert tuner card on /dev/video$random |
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| [19:08:50] | Paladine: | my dremel never arrived today either so I double pissed |
| [19:09:22] | Paladine: | I can't move forward on my server mod until my new dremel arrives |
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| [19:10:22] | Paladine: | turning a 12 year old battered geige full tower into this http://www.paladine.org.uk/images/leftpanel.png |
| [19:10:35] | Paladine: | s/geige/beige |
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| [19:11:14] | oomph-work: | does anyone use MythTV with Dishnetworks HD TV programming? |
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| [19:11:50] | laga: | Paladine: just shell out 50 bucks for a decent case and save yourself the trouble? |
| [19:11:58] | oomph-work: | id like some advice on what type of setup id need to impliment this? as in what hardware to purchase, what remote control is best etc |
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| [19:12:04] | Paladine: | where's the fun in that? |
| [19:12:16] | Paladine: | also, I would still have to do the custom paint job |
| [19:12:17] | jams: | hi laga |
| [19:12:17] | xris: | oomph-work: won't work for HD. |
| [19:12:29] | juski: | oomph-work: no go – you can't capture HD from a satellite box |
| [19:12:37] | xris: | your only legal option for HD with dishnet is to buy a firewire receiver from 169time.com |
| [19:12:41] | Paladine: | but I can't paint until I have cut out the 120mm fan hole |
| [19:13:19] | laga: | hi jams |
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| [19:13:57] | Paladine: | also laga, I am in the UK, the cheapest "decent" server case is ~$180 |
| [19:13:59] | oomph-work: | ok, but mythtv will work with dishnetwork, correct? |
| [19:14:11] | oomph-work: | how does this firewire reciever work? |
| [19:15:07] | xris: | oomph-work: works with dishnet for SD stuff (I ran it for over a year like that).. you'll need an IR blaster to control the box, and something like a pvr-150 for a tuner (svideo input). |
| [19:15:37] | xris: | I don't know how the firewire stuff from 169time works. it was cheaper for me to switch to comcast (they gave me a really nice competitive switchover rate) and use their firewire stuff. |
| [19:15:49] | Paladine: | anyway I have to go cook lasagne bbl |
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| [19:16:02] | juski: | microwave went beeeep! |
| [19:16:08] | oomph-work: | xris: is there even a need for an pcHDTV HD-3000 |
| [19:16:24] | juski: | oomph-work: only good for OTA HDTV |
| [19:16:25] | xris: | oomph-work: that's for broadcast and unencrypted cable. |
| [19:16:26] | oomph-work: | or will the pvr150 work fine |
| [19:16:40] | ** juski shuts his face :) ** | |
| [19:16:44] | oomph-work: | ahh yeah, i wont be using off the air broadcasts |
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| [19:17:30] | xris: | oomph-work: either way, I'm pretty sure you'd need an ir blaster... irblaster.info has nice ones for a reasonable price. or you can make your own for about $8–10 in parts |
| [19:18:05] | oomph-work: | thats cool, looking at them now thanks. IR Blaster will work with my dish remote? |
| [19:18:20] | xris: | yeah |
| [19:18:24] | oomph-work: | emulte it to keystrokes using LIRC? am I understanding this right? |
| [19:18:28] | xris: | well, only the IR one |
| [19:18:47] | xris: | but yeah. if you google for "losdos mythtv" you should find the howto I used, and it has the lirc config necessary. |
| [19:19:05] | oomph-work: | k |
| [19:19:14] | oomph-work: | how much is this thing from 169times? |
| [19:19:18] | oomph-work: | i dont seem to find a price |
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| [19:22:06] | xris: | oomph-work: prices should be there. I think they run $700–1000, though |
| [19:22:23] | oomph-work: | are they basically modded receivers? |
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| [19:32:28] | wreckage: | so mythtv records whatever is on tv, all the time right? |
| [19:32:40] | wreckage: | like if I change channels it starts recording that auto right? |
| [19:32:50] | scopeuk: | wrecage yes and no |
| [19:33:03] | scopeuk: | yes it records it but it wont store and file it unless you tell it to record |
| [19:33:10] | wreckage: | well, the reason I ask, is cause since i've been at work, I see my harddrive is 20 gigs heavier |
| [19:33:25] | wreckage: | /dev/hda5 97G 54G 39G 59% /video |
| [19:33:33] | wreckage: | 54 gigs used |
| [19:33:41] | scopeuk: | might jsut be temp recordings made when live tv is used |
| [19:33:46] | scopeuk: | those auto delete when they get in the way |
| [19:33:51] | wreckage: | excellend |
| [19:33:53] | wreckage: | excellent |
| [19:33:54] | wreckage: | that is |
| [19:34:06] | wreckage: | i've only recorded 1.5 hours of tv |
| [19:34:17] | wreckage: | so I was hoping it just isn't recording and saving everything 24/7 |
| [19:34:23] | scopeuk: | no it doesent |
| [19:37:11] | GreyFoxx: | Unless you leave LiveTV running 24/7 |
| [19:37:45] | wreckage: | oh... |
| [19:37:46] | GreyFoxx: | myth will auto expire livetv "recordings" after 24 hours, OR if space is required for another recording |
| [19:38:02] | wreckage: | so I shouldn't leave it on the "watch tv" thing? |
| [19:38:14] | GreyFoxx: | That depends on you really |
| [19:38:25] | GreyFoxx: | but general no, people don't leave it there |
| [19:38:38] | wreckage: | alright, i'll get in the habbit of backing out |
| [19:38:39] | GreyFoxx: | You certainly can. It's up to your |
| [19:44:36] | scopeuk: | just wasting a tuner and hdd space |
| [19:45:34] | defend: | FN~GreyFoxx, hey i got a question for ya i heard you have run myth on bsd in the past? |
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| [19:53:05] | GreyFoxx: | defend: Every once in a while I go through and make sure the code compiles and runs on OpenBSD |
| [19:53:20] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't done it in several months but I just grabbed OpenBSD 4.0 and plan to go it up in the next couple weeks] |
| [19:54:14] | ** juski picks up his theming knife ** | |
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| [19:57:07] | defend: | whats the latest version you have done of myth on your box? i was trying to do .20 and i am getting some compile errors in regards to sendfile64 in httprequests.cpp it has to do with fbsd handling sendfile diffrently then linux os have you ever heard of that? |
| [19:57:39] | GreyFoxx: | I did some for 0.19, but haven't done any for 0.20 |
| [19:58:01] | defend: | hmm |
| [19:58:05] | GreyFoxx: | well that's a lie. I started it for 0.20, but never finished as I trashed my laptop :) |
| [19:58:26] | defend: | haha :) |
| [19:59:03] | GreyFoxx: | I downloaded OpenBSD 4.0 just the other day to have a go at that |
| [19:59:09] | defend: | i am doing it to my home box and i realy dont want to install linux just to get myth since i got kde and all my work stuff the way i want it |
| [19:59:47] | defend: | but i cant seem to get pass the sendfile i googled it and tryed to make my own files for it but it still failed |
| [20:01:17] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [20:01:29] | GreyFoxx: | It's usually annoying each time I do it :) |
| [20:01:41] | GreyFoxx: | They are usually close but not quite :) |
| [20:04:17] | defend: | what do you use for config options? do you happen to know by anychance |
| [20:04:26] | seth|laptop: | gentoo question, myth .20 does not work with QT4, correct, as this is true, or must be, what do I need to emerge to get QT3. In my knoppmyth distro, it contains folders for bth qt4 and qt3, so 'export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3 is easy enough, I cannot do this however with my new gentoo install |
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| [20:04:44] | kormoc: | seth|laptop, emerge mythtv will bring in qt3 |
| [20:04:53] | kormoc: | seth|laptop, and yes, myth requires qt3 still |
| [20:05:00] | seth|laptop: | emerge mythtv fails on lcdproc :-( |
| [20:05:14] | kormoc: | that's another issue then |
| [20:05:46] | kormoc: | you could add -lcd to the mythtv use flags, and then it won't try to compile lcdproc |
| [20:05:48] | seth|laptop: | and my guess is bringing in mythtv from portage, will not be compatible with my mythtv.org tarballs of .20 |
| [20:05:58] | seth|laptop: | ok, I'll do that |
| [20:06:02] | GreyFoxx: | defend: I defined an OpenBSD profile in configure itself which sets the options (like disabling the backend) |
| [20:06:08] | GreyFoxx: | so I just do a ./configure |
| [20:06:14] | kormoc: | mythtv in portage is svn revision 10505, it's newer then 0.20 tarballs |
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| [20:06:23] | kormoc: | erm |
| [20:06:29] | defend: | hmm |
| [20:06:31] | seth|laptop: | so a portage frontend won't work with my current backend |
| [20:06:39] | defend: | maybe i will try it here at work haha |
| [20:06:40] | kormoc: | sorry, wrong version, it's 11444 |
| [20:06:51] | kormoc: | seth|laptop, nope, they need to be the same version |
| [20:07:00] | seth|laptop: | that is why I need qt3, hehe |
| [20:07:20] | kormoc: | seth|laptop, you need qt3 no matter which version, the 0.20 tarballs also require qt3... |
| [20:07:54] | seth|laptop: | right, thats where my issue is, do I just do an 'emerge qt3' and what will that do to my qt4 |
| [20:07:55] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: hey question for ya |
| [20:08:04] | seth|laptop: | I have a feeling kde is using it |
| [20:08:36] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: I been messing with the firewire channel changer and I am having issues at I have a 6416 and its not listed but the mythtv internal firewire changer works? |
| [20:08:56] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: do you know how I would locate what is missing from the contrib changer? |
| [20:08:56] | kormoc: | seth|laptop, no, you need to emerge <x11-libs/qt-4.0 |
| [20:09:19] | kormoc: | alas, I do not, as I haven't worked with it at all |
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| [20:09:57] | seth|laptop: | kormoc: I will give that a try tongiht |
| [20:10:00] | seth|laptop: | tonight even |
| [20:10:30] | seth|laptop: | been away from gentoo too long, I should have known that :-( |
| [20:10:56] | ** seth|laptop shakes fist at packaged distros for their ease and simplicity ** | |
| [20:11:29] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: :/ yeah its frustrating |
| [20:11:51] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: I want to setup the external channel changer so I can use it with my pvr350 but its not working :/ |
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| [20:17:55] | jduggan: | hmm, out of interest livetv paused for a second with no errors in backend.log and the audio went out of sync with the video, i thought with the pvr150 bein an mpg stream this shouldnt happen? |
| [20:18:02] | jduggan: | wot could cause this? |
| [20:20:29] | kormoc: | well, the Wheel Of Time does cause spacial durations around it, so if you do have a wot around, it could cause sync issues... |
| [20:20:41] | seth|laptop: | hehe |
| [20:21:46] | jduggan: | .dotdawt |
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| [20:23:10] | Paladine: | juski, no I actually cook it from scratch |
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| [20:23:16] | Paladine: | even make my own pasta |
| [20:24:06] | Paladine: | my 3 cheese lasagne is infamous :p |
| [20:24:09] | wreckage: | what emulators can you use with mythgame |
| [20:24:18] | wreckage: | Paladine: $2 for a piece, right now |
| [20:24:37] | Paladine: | wreckage, Iam not a soup kitchen :p |
| [20:24:51] | Paladine: | $10 and you might get a piece if I am feeling generous |
| [20:25:18] | Zider: | wreckage: pretty much any emulator |
| [20:25:56] | Paladine: | wreckage there is a kilo of fine cheeses in my lasagne :p |
| [20:25:57] | wreckage: | Paladine: how about $9 and throw in a mountain dew |
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| [20:27:17] | aarcane: | anyone using mplayer and mythtv together with lirc that can give me some tips to set the two up to get along together? I can't find a good howto online |
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| [20:28:24] | juski: | Paladine: I didn't say your microwave went beeeeep.. it was my corncobs beeping :) |
| [20:28:37] | Paladine: | ahhh lol |
| [20:28:48] | juski: | and my home-made lasagne is very nice |
| [20:29:07] | juski: | jar sauces are okay but nothing like the real thing |
| [20:29:17] | Paladine: | I cook my sauce overnight |
| [20:29:48] | juski: | if I was handsome I might've been a good catch for my mrs... he cooks, he cleans... lol |
| [20:30:02] | Paladine: | I don't clean but I do cook :) |
| [20:30:44] | juski: | aarcane: you need a .lircrc file in the user's home directory – and the file must have prog = mplayer lines in it ;) |
| [20:31:15] | juski: | hmmm I think projectgrayhem 2.1 is almost ready :) |
| [20:31:21] | aarcane: | juski, but I want to use the same keys for mplayer and mythtv, how do I keep the keys from sending events to both apps ? |
| [20:31:46] | juski: | aarcane: the 'prog = foobar' lines differentiate |
| [20:32:07] | juski: | once you grasp that concept it'll become clearer to you |
| [20:33:13] | aarcane: | juski, but if I have a prog = mplayer button = up and a prog = mythtv button = up item separate of each other? won't that send the up button's event to both mplayer and mythtv at the same time ? |
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| [20:34:37] | juski: | aarcane: you need to have separate lines of course... |
| [20:34:58] | aarcane: | of course, but I wasn't about to paste a serries of newlines into IRC |
| [20:35:14] | juski: | look in most example lircrc files & you'll see a big bunch of prog = mythtv stuff followed by a big bunch of prog = mplayer stuff |
| [20:35:52] | aarcane: | I can't find any sample files though. I found a link to one on the wiki that's defunkt |
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| [20:37:07] | juski: | aarcane: see here: http://pastebin.ca/241968 |
| [20:37:34] | juski: | only mine has mythtv & xine stuff in it. you'll have to adjust it to be for mplayer, but you should grasp the idea now |
| [20:38:30] | juski: | to change the bits from xine you'll (of course) need to change prog = xine to prog = mplayer and adjust the 'config = ' lines accordingly |
| [20:38:48] | juski: | and the button definitions of course... |
| [20:38:56] | aarcane: | okay |
| [20:39:00] | juski: | I'd be no teacher if I handed it all to you on a plate :-P |
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| [20:39:29] | Paladine: | depends what you are teaching |
| [20:39:33] | aarcane: | lines 80 and 244, what keeps them from both activating at the same time and confusing mythtv when you're using xine? |
| [20:39:41] | Paladine: | if you are teaching him how to hand people things on a plate you would be :p |
| [20:39:42] | juski: | aarcane: I already told you |
| [20:39:57] | aarcane: | juski, but they both respond to the button "play" |
| [20:40:08] | juski: | aarcane: the 'prog = mythtv' bit tells lirc it's only for mythtv |
| [20:40:31] | aarcane: | yes |
| [20:40:50] | aarcane: | so when you press play, lirc sends play to only mythtv, and sends play only to xine at the same time. |
| [20:41:03] | juski: | depends which one is listening ;) |
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| [20:41:24] | aarcane: | does mythtv stop listening when mythvideo starts another application like mplayer? |
| [20:41:26] | juski: | and that depends on which has focus IIRC |
| [20:41:31] | aarcane: | or xine ? |
| [20:41:46] | juski: | stops listening when it doesn't have focus |
| [20:42:00] | juski: | as far as I know anyway |
| [20:42:15] | juski: | all you need to know is.. it works! |
| [20:42:33] | aarcane: | juski, thank you :) finally the bit I needed to know :P |
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| [20:44:37] | juski: | ahhh poo. I need more webspace |
| [20:45:28] | scopeuk: | diddums |
| [20:45:42] | ** scopeuk wonders if hel ever have enough storage ** | |
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| [20:46:58] | juski: | you can _never_ have enough online storage |
| [20:47:10] | juski: | though I'm not sure where all of my 55MB goes |
| [20:47:53] | cryptonic: | why doesnt mythtv use the same xserver login as the main os = ubuntu? |
| [20:47:59] | juski: | right this is the last time I update my themes without having a version control system in place |
| [20:48:09] | juski: | cryptonic: because it's a different account |
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| [20:48:30] | cryptonic: | why does it need a seperate account? |
| [20:48:35] | juski: | it doesn't |
| [20:48:48] | juski: | you can use mythfrontend in your default login if you want |
| [20:49:12] | juski: | but it's good to have processes run as different users sometimes |
| [20:49:19] | cryptonic: | so you could use xgl and compiz with myth tv on ubuntu ? |
| [20:49:36] | juski: | e.g. mythbackend – the folks who write the init scripts make it run as the mythtv user |
| [20:49:39] | juski: | cryptonic: nope |
| [20:49:59] | juski: | not yet at any rate |
| [20:50:27] | cryptonic: | :) |
| [20:50:46] | wreckage: | can xmame used through myth handle 2 players on certain games? |
| [20:50:56] | cryptonic: | hmmmmm.... i was just pondering if there will ever be an ubuntu media center based on myth tv :) |
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| [20:51:47] | stuarta: | evening all |
| [20:51:48] | juski: | wreckage: probably, depends on the games & your xmame configuration I spose |
| [20:52:02] | wreckage: | juski: alright, just wanted to know if it was possible |
| [20:52:06] | juski: | evening stuarta. good match yesterday? you bet on the winning side :) |
| [20:52:14] | GreyFoxx: | wreckage: Yeah that really is a xmame question. Mythgame just launches xmame |
| [20:52:21] | wreckage: | cool |
| [20:52:33] | stuarta: | juski: i don't bet, but yes the result was favourable |
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| [20:52:38] | wreckage: | I was just hoping someone was an xmame junky here =) |
| [20:52:48] | stuarta: | the referee however was as blind as a bat |
| [20:53:58] | stuarta: | didn't know the rules either... |
| [20:54:32] | juski: | uuuhhhh kayyyy ... ProjectGrayhem 2.1 is now unleashed :) |
| [20:54:44] | stuarta: | oooo |
| [20:54:51] | seth|laptop: | woohoo |
| [20:55:12] | juski: | wide & 4:3 themes now with blue shiny shiny shiny select bars |
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| [20:55:46] | juski: | if anybody feels like checking em into svn, feel free ;) |
| [20:56:10] | ** stuarta leaves that to GreyFoxx ** | |
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| [21:10:31] | fontppp: | what are these files i'm seeing in alt.tv.pvr.mythtv ? |
| [21:10:42] | scopeuk: | any one else look at this and think its potentially interesting http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php? . . . ucts_id=5966 |
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| [21:13:51] | jduggan: | juski: ss of projectgrayhem? |
| [21:16:39] | Con-fuze-ed: | scopeuk: # Does not support High Definition content (DivX HD/WMV9)... component out, but no HD... otherwise it would be cool |
| [21:17:07] | scopeuk: | Con-fuze-ed it has hd out jsut doesent support playback |
| [21:17:09] | scopeuk: | which is what got me |
| [21:17:21] | scopeuk: | they even sll a componant lead for 1080 |
| [21:17:35] | scopeuk: | up to i should say |
| [21:17:41] | scopeuk: | that has me slightlyconfused |
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| [21:17:58] | Con-fuze-ed: | and the VGA is only 1024x768... hmm. |
| [21:17:59] | scopeuk: | Output Interfaces Video: NTSC/PAL Composite Video, S-Video, Analog YPbPr Video, SCART RGB, VGA (1024x768), HDTV (480p, 720p, 1080i) |
| [21:19:05] | scopeuk: | its an ebeded linux box so its probably open to a little mild persuasion |
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| [21:19:42] | Con-fuze-ed: | probably... but I'd be afraid that they have proprietary drivers that limit it's capabilities |
| [21:19:50] | scopeuk: | yeh |
| [21:20:02] | scopeuk: | im gonan hava dig arround see what i can find |
| [21:20:10] | scopeuk: | as is it whould be prtty cool for what i do |
| [21:20:22] | Con-fuze-ed: | do you know what the price is about in USD? |
| [21:20:24] | scopeuk: | save hacing to boot up a real pc to watch pre recorded stuff |
| [21:20:28] | Con-fuze-ed: | nm |
| [21:20:34] | scopeuk: | Con-fuze-ed theres a converter o nthe right side bar |
| [21:20:45] | Con-fuze-ed: | yeah... like I said.. nm |
| [21:20:50] | scopeuk: | kk |
| [21:21:01] | scopeuk: | apparently its on uclinux 2.4 |
| [21:21:41] | Con-fuze-ed: | if all of the hardware were open, then it would be a decent little frontend box |
| [21:21:44] | scopeuk: | http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php? . . . ucts_id=7491 is probably more interestign becouse it has networking |
| [21:22:27] | Con-fuze-ed: | or even a front/back with external usb/firewire capture |
| [21:23:04] | scopeuk: | yeh |
| [21:23:16] | scopeuk: | and wtf is openDivX? |
| [21:23:42] | scopeuk: | ok its the old xvid project |
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| [21:29:25] | ** scopeuk ponders a quick easy way to make lots of money without being asked awkward questions ** | |
| [21:29:57] | Con-fuze-ed: | anyone have any experience using a usb atsc adapter like: http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_hvr950.html |
| [21:30:09] | Con-fuze-ed: | I am interested in cheaper ones, but this one is a start. |
| [21:30:18] | Dibblah: | scopeuk: I know the answer to that. I got an email this morning with details of how to do it. |
| [21:30:27] | Con-fuze-ed: | lol |
| [21:30:41] | Dibblah: | I've sent all my bank account info off and am just waiting for the cash to roll in :)) |
| [21:30:48] | Con-fuze-ed: | you should forward that email to several million people |
| [21:31:02] | scopeuk: | Dibblah lol |
| [21:31:04] | scopeuk: | bbiab |
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| [21:39:17] | juski: | that was a good HIGNFY :) |
| [21:40:26] | juski: | weird tv playback issue in minimyth.. looks fine-ish without deinterlacing, slightly flickery – but with deinterlacing looks perfect. strange thing is that before deinterlacing it didn't look 'interlaced' |
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| [21:53:19] | ivor: | juski: ? |
| [21:53:28] | ivor: | describe the difference |
| [21:54:47] | juski: | ivor: kind of looks like half the fields are being thrown away, but without the 'comby' line artifacts of interlacing |
| [21:55:02] | juski: | maybe the fields are being played in reverse order... |
| [21:55:22] | juski: | btw the video mode I'm using is 720x576Noscale |
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| [21:55:55] | ivor: | no comby effect even with fast movement? |
| [21:56:01] | juski: | scrolling text looks fine but jerky – hence my comment about it looking like hald the frames are being chucked |
| [21:56:09] | ivor: | perhaps the source mpg isn't interlaced? |
| [21:56:10] | juski: | I mean half the fields ;) |
| [21:56:24] | juski: | it's uk dvb-t recordings |
| [21:57:04] | ivor: | I'm using a set-top box tonight. :( |
| [21:57:15] | ivor: | my signals all gone to shit for some reason. |
| [21:57:34] | juski: | don't think the fields are being reversed.. I've seen that when i reversed a video clip that I burnt to dvd – that looked kind of 'echoey' |
| [21:58:25] | juski: | anyway switching on bob again made it look superb like it used to.. but previously watching some recordings I'd never even noticed deinterlacing was disabled |
| [21:59:05] | juski: | ivor: eew. really pees me off why PC tuners are never as sensitive as STBs |
| [21:59:45] | ivor: | dunno the tv wiring is a complete mess here. |
| [21:59:48] | scopeuk: | becouse then stb manus (they make the tuner chips for both at a guess) wouldent make as much |
| [22:00:13] | ivor: | I thought I'd imrpoved it but I think it's time to rip out all the old and put new cable and distribution amps in. |
| [22:00:30] | scopeuk: | ivor i hope for your sake your more proactive than me |
| [22:00:33] | ivor: | the joy of a new house. |
| [22:00:38] | ivor: | scopeuk: exaactly. |
| [22:00:44] | ivor: | I'll put it on my todo list. |
| [22:00:48] | scopeuk: | yeh i do that |
| [22:00:52] | scopeuk: | when ifind my todo list |
| [22:00:53] | juski: | it's about time I sorted my aerial out.. it's just a lash-up resting on a roofbeam at the mo |
| [22:01:13] | scopeuk: | i shoudlent rearly have a problem i quite like hights |
| [22:01:18] | scopeuk: | and i love messign with wiring |
| [22:01:28] | scopeuk: | only thing is ive effectivly movved out now |
| [22:01:38] | ivor: | juski: I've done that part of the job. replaced the aerials and lashings. |
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| [22:03:39] | Con-fuze-ed: | anyone know if the cat's eye usb atsc tuner works? |
| [22:03:53] | juski: | Con-fuze-ed: check linuxtv.org ? |
| [22:04:04] | Con-fuze-ed: | looked... no mention of it |
| [22:04:12] | juski: | so it's likely a 'no' then |
| [22:04:48] | Con-fuze-ed: | I think it's relatively new? not much talk about them and linux, and I'd imagine that since the cat's eye cards get a lot of attention, so would this... they even provide a linux driver |
| [22:04:51] | juski: | google is your friend, as is a search of the mythtv, linuxtv & v4l mailing lists |
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| [22:06:08] | Con-fuze-ed: | I have been... was just hoping someone here had experience or heard about these |
| [22:07:12] | kormoc: | Ooh, ooh! I've heard of them! Some guy came in here, all confused, and was asking about them! |
| [22:07:31] | Con-fuze-ed: | lol |
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| [22:11:35] | juski: | looks like their website is down anyway |
| [22:12:33] | juski: | ahh no it just changed URL :) |
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| [22:43:05] | fryfrog: | Does anyone know what changes are part of the new mythtv ebuild? |
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| [23:20:02] | TrisMcC: | Has anyone gotten the internal player to play video files in mythvideo with AAC audio? I compiled mythtv with --enable-gpl --enable-faac --enable-faad (and all combinations of those) and always get no sound. |
| [23:20:17] | TrisMcC: | I do an ldd /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend and get libfaac and libfaad as found |
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| [23:36:04] | jeffery: | does anyone know why after loading the modules.. I still can't see the /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 on the file system? |
| [23:36:37] | BULLE: | jeffery: you got udev rules to populate the filesystem ? |
| [23:36:46] | BULLE: | jeffery: if not, that is where i would start to look |
| [23:36:48] | Agrajag-: | perhaps you haven't loaded the right modules or haven't loaded them in the correct order |
| [23:36:56] | BULLE: | that to |
| [23:37:24] | jeffery: | thanks BULLE googled and got similar suggestion... |
| [23:40:34] | jeffery: | BULLE: is that what I would need: http://linvdr.org/mailinglists/vdr/2004/10/msg00156.html |
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