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Sunday, November 5th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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jacob:

does anyone know a way to import m3u playlists into mythmusic 0.20?

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EnterUserName:

HI all

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EnterUserName:

Can i put mythweb on a seperate server of mythtv

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EnterUserName:

Where the mythweb accesses the remote databasE?

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mcquaid:

is the list of playback filters on the wiki complete? or are there other plugins available? I was looking to see if decomb was ported to myth

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mcquaid:

for ivtc

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xris:

EnterUserName: yes, you can

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EnterUserName:

xris: thank you already starting to try :) so now I knwo it works :)

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EnterUserName:

has the database changed from CVS to 0.20?

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EnterUserName:

erk vrom 0.20 to cvs?

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xris:

yes

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** EnterUserName curses **

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xris:

no one has used cvs in a LONG time

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EnterUserName:

i installed the wrong one.

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EnterUserName:

erk i mean the svnone

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xris:

but it's different from svn, too. even fixes and .20 are different

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EnterUserName:

oh darn...means i have to reset my database :)

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EnterUserName:

So you would suggest using the .20 version right for stability?

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EnterUserName:

(0.20 fixes i am referring to)

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xris:

yes

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xris:

if you're compiling from source, you should definitely grab from the fixes branch

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EnterUserName:

yes i downloaded the wrong one previously i noticed so i have to start from a fresh database :(

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xris:

nothing wrong with running svn.

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skizo1:

i've got two input sources, but shouldn't only one be showing in the program guide? there are two channels showing up for every channel in the guide, and the second one of each says "Adding" instead of the name of the channel

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EnterUserName:

gthats a good question skizo cuz i dont know how to do that eitehr

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EnterUserName:

how do i change between inputs for program guides

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PointyPumper:

uhm

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PointyPumper:

both sources are the same?

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EnterUserName:

no

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PointyPumper:

lets say, the same cable?

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PointyPumper:

ok

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EnterUserName:

One is analog one is digital

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EnterUserName:

so one has 75 channels and one has 300 :S

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Joffray:

they're all on the same guide

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PointyPumper:

and u want to filter em by source?

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EnterUserName:

yes if possible

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skizo1:

Joffray: why are they all on the same guide? that makes no sense, only the channels for the input source you're currently on should be showing

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Joffray:

not true

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skizo1:

?

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Joffray:

well, it's not

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Joffray:

I pull up my guide

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Joffray:

it has the info for all channels on all sources

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skizo1:

i've got two sources, one's digital, and one's analog, so i've got channels 2 – 78 or so on both of them... the digital source has more higher number channels

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Joffray:

cool?

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Joffray:

I just prefix them with a digit so they don't get conflicted

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EnterUserName:

Joffray: Explain..

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Joffray:

for source 3 I prefix all the channels with a 3

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PointyPumper:

on the channel number?

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Joffray:

yes

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Joffray:

so that they are unique

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PointyPumper:

u can also use a_

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skizo1:

Joffray: you shouldn't have to do that... it doesn't make any sense to show you the channels from the other source when you're not currently on that source

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PointyPumper:

and d_

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PointyPumper:

xD

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Joffray:

skizol: it does though. I'm not complaining

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EnterUserName:

how do you do a prefix?

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Joffray:

I like it

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skizo1:

Joffray: you wouldn't if all of your channels 2 – 78 were exactly the same and hence duplicated 4 times :(

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Joffray:

UPDATE channel SET channum = CONCAT(sourceid, channum);

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EnterUserName:

hmm

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Joffray:

or whatever you want to do

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Joffray:

skizol: I've got about 2500 channels right now ;)

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EnterUserName:

the question is, how would it know to change the channel

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EnterUserName:

Satellite im guessing :)

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Joffray:

yea, mostly

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EnterUserName:

yer changing the channum is that just the name

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Joffray:

the channum is really just for you, the information as to where to tune it is stored in the database

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Joffray:

skizol: why wouldn't you do it with 4 inputs?

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skizo1:

Joffray: this is the way i see it... you're watching tv on input 1, so i only want to see the channels for input 1 in the guide... if i switch inputs to input 2, i only want to see the channels for input 2 in the guide... it makes no sense to put all other channels from non-active inputs into the guide...

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EnterUserName:

hey

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EnterUserName:

ok let me know when your done with shizo i got antoher question

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Joffray:

well, that's not how it's done

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Joffray:

I think it makes a lot of sense

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Joffray:

I have a bunch of channels on a bunch of inputs

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Joffray:

I don't want to have to sift through which channel is on which input

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Joffray:

I just wanna go to it

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skizo1:

Joffray: yeah, and that's your opinion, which is exactly why it should be an option to filter the guide based on the input you're on

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Joffray:

it might be an option

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skizo1:

i'd love that if it were :P... i haven't found it yet though

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EnterUserName:

if i do autoflagging for commercials

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EnterUserName:

woudl a 64 bit 2.4 ghz be considered underpowered?

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EnterUserName:

:)

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EnterUserName:

2 gigs of ram..

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Joffray:

no

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Joffray:

not at all

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EnterUserName:

ok

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EnterUserName:

its not dual core or anything

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EnterUserName:

:)

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EnterUserName:

ill set it up to flag for commercials then.

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Joffray:

I use a 2.6ghz Celeron D

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EnterUserName:

autostart

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Joffray:

with 1GB of ram

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Joffray:

and I do the auto flag commercials

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EnterUserName:

Oh.. Do you have autostart for flagging?

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Joffray:

yea

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EnterUserName:

its set to be off by default ;)

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Joffray:

yea....

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PointyPumper:

does comm flaggin works?

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Joffray:

yes it does

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Joffray:

fairly well

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PointyPumper:

ahve u ever lost a part of a recording cause of autoflaggin?

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Joffray:

well

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EnterUserName:

Doesn't it keep the original recording?

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Joffray:

it doesn't cut it out

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Joffray:

it just flags where the commercials are

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EnterUserName:

nod :)

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PointyPumper:

no? when u transcodeit it doesnt?

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EnterUserName:

they need a mythtv backend for windows :p

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Joffray:

no, when you transcode it does not cut out the commercials

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PointyPumper:

snif

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PointyPumper:

yea

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Joffray:

Enter: no, no

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PointyPumper:

i need one :(

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Joffray:

ugh

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Quan:

yeah is there any way to get mythcommflag to automatically add the cutlist?

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EnterUserName:

oh howabout a mythtv cluster ?

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EnterUserName:

so i can have 2 systems working on it at the same time ":p

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Joffray:

Quan: no idea

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Quan:

EnterUserName: you can already have multiple backends :)

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EnterUserName:

can the input be on a different machien though?

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halex-ab:

EnterUserName, Yup..

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EnterUserName:

mebbe i'll use a vmware instance

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EnterUserName:

to be another backend

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EnterUserName:

(i have a vmware server on a windows machine lol )

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Joffray:

that won't work

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Joffray:

well, it'll work

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Joffray:

just very slowly

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EnterUserName:

hmm

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Quan:

don't think the tuner will work in vmware

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Joffray:

yea

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Joffray:

and a tuner won't work

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EnterUserName:

oh

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EnterUserName:

thats why i asked

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EnterUserName:

i have a tuner on antoher machine i just want to put the processing on antoher one

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EnterUserName:

to speed things up if necessary

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Quan:

you could use vmware as a frontend though

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Joffray:

mythtv does not use up a ton of processing

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Joffray:

especially on a 2.4ghz machine w/2Gb of RAM

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Joffray:

you can put many cards in a machine like that

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Quan:

yeah the only thing that's cpu intensive is transcoding, and even that runs at a low priority

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EnterUserName:

I use it for both my desktop and my tv system

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EnterUserName:

but yer right i've had no problems yet.. im just curious on whast start autoflagging will do

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Quan:

hrmm mytharchive is being a PITA :P

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Quan:

the "size" gauge doesn't work to well

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Joffray:

I'm trying to figure out this mythweb bug :)

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Quan:

I think I just made this dvd to big :(

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Quan:

there goes 4 hours I'll never get back :P

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Quan:

Joffray: bug?

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Joffray:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2288

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Quan:

don't think that's a mythtv bug though

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Quan:

are the dupes in the db too?

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Quan:

er not a mythweb bug I mean

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Joffray:

yea, it's a mythweb bug

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Joffray:

hence the open ticket

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simon_c_home:

Anyone had mythatchive cause problems with file permissions on your system ?

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Quan:

have it CAUSE problems?

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Quan:

simon_c_home: got an example?

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simon_c_home:

Quan: Yeh.

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simon_c_home:

all my permissions in /bin and /usr/bin have gone to 666

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simon_c_home:

very strange.

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Quan:

mytharchive doesn't run as root...

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Quan:

so it'd be kind of hard for it to change perms

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simon_c_home:

maybe something else happened on the box. But it's very strange.

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Quan:

unless you were running it as root

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simon_c_home:

well, I'm lazy, (so I know it's my own falut) but it was running as root.

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Quan:

eek

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simon_c_home:

but it's very very strrange. Maybe some filesystem problem.

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Quan:

if you're running an rpm based system you can have rpm restore all the file perms

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EnterUserName:

man zapit needs a faster connection

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EnterUserName:

this takes way to darn long to fill the database ;)

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simon_c_home:

just asking on the off chance it's known.

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simon_c_home:

Quan: Good thinking.

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simon_c_home:

Quan: thanks.

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Quan:

that might not fix *all* perms but should get most of them

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informavore:

anybody know how to setup to record from a cable box?

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EnterUserName:

yup get a blaster

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informavore:

I mean, how to get mythtv to read from the composite input... (I have a Hauppauge 500, the tunes work, but how to use the composite to read from a cable box?)

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Quan:

informavore: set up another source using the composite input

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informavore:

ok.. but they both use /dev/video0 ?

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BULLE:

informavore: yes, you can only use the composite input OR one of the tuners

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Quan:

informavore: run mythtv-setup, go into capture cards, select new, use /dev/video0, but use composite as input instead of television

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EnterUserName:

thats too cool!!! A picture in a picture option

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EnterUserName:

how do i change that channel :p

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EnterUserName:

i guess i can change and swap works ;)

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EnterUserName:

this is cool to i dont need alsa:Default anymore

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EnterUserName:

umm i dont have duplicate channels per device is that because they are the same program?

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EnterUserName:

I mean in the program guide i don't see both inputs is that because they have the same program on each device/

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EnterUserName:

anyone?

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Joffray:

eh?

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Quan:

EnterUserName: press...C I think..to change inputs

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Quan:

yeah C

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Joffray:

yea

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Joffray:

it's C

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Joffray:

;)

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EnterUserName:

oh ok

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EnterUserName:

and how about the programs not being

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EnterUserName:

shown for both inputs if they are the same you dont get duplicates?

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Joffray:

not being .........

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Quan:

when you change inputs the guide should switch to whats on the other input

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EnterUserName:

when i go to programg uide from the menu

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EnterUserName:

i only see one channel guide

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Joffray:

right

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EnterUserName:

so isit because both stations have the same program playing?

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EnterUserName:

or is it some setting im issing

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Joffray:

well you should see both channels

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Joffray:

there should be 2 of the same

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EnterUserName:

nope there is not..

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** Joffray shrugs then **

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Joffray:

good luck with that

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EnterUserName:

is there any additional options ?

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EnterUserName:

mythfilldatabase should do both right

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skizo1:

EnterUserName: once i changed the callsign to match on both inputs, my duplicate channels on the guide went away... your channum and callsign are the same for those channels, right?

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EnterUserName:

hmm well ones set to the analog feed and the other to the digital feed ..

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Quan:

does it switch between them when you press C?

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EnterUserName:

how do you change call sign?

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Quan:

or do you only see the analog channels?

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EnterUserName:

let me see

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skizo1:

EnterUserName: i changed it in the database

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skizo1:

because the callsign for my analog input was "Adding Channel x..." instead of what it should have been

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Quan:

EnterUserName: easiest way is to edit them in mythweb

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EnterUserName:

lol this sucks i cant stop it from recording now p

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EnterUserName:

wow this si raelly wierd

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EnterUserName:

it wont stop recording however its set to "do not record"

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informavore:

Quan & Bulle: OK mythtv-setup run, so now I have three capture cards... Do I need input connections?

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EnterUserName:

quan: how do i stop a recordintgit wont stop!

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Quan:

informavore: yup, now you need to assing an input to the card

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EnterUserName:

is it because of the autoflag/

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Quan:

EnterUserName: ?

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Quan:

EnterUserName: go into manage recordings and cancel it

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EnterUserName:

well

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EnterUserName:

Yes i did that

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informavore:

Quan: It doesn''t change any channels, it just receives a video signal from a cable box. What is the appropriate input?

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EnterUserName:

I went to schedule recordings.. then i went to program guide and selected stop recording however it still does ;O

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Quan:

informavore: erm, make one up?

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informavore:

Quan,, what''s wrong with 'None' ?

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Quan:

informavore: that shouled work if you're going to set the channel manual etc.

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Quan:

EnterUserName: restart teh backend?

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EnterUserName:

ok i got it stopped

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EnterUserName:

Now im watching live tv...

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EnterUserName:

and i press C and all i see is the title Digital CAble

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EnterUserName:

how do i switch to analog?

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informavore:

Quan: how do I record to something that doesn't have a channel?

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EnterUserName:

I was able to record on analog so i know its both there..

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Quan:

informavore: manually...go into watch livetv, change input to the second input

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Quan:

then press r

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Quan:

AFAIK that should work, never tried it :P

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EnterUserName:

Quan: I'm able to go picture within a picture to

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EnterUserName:

but the C command is not worknig

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informavore:

Quan: Is that with the 'C' command? or the 'Y' command, or... ?

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Quan:

should be C informavore

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EnterUserName:

It's not working for me:S

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Quan:

EnterUserName: try Y too

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Quan:

EnterUserName: Y switches cards, C changes inputs on the current card

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Joffray:

Y just tells me what channel I'm on

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Quan:

hmm

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EnterUserName:

yup that works

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Joffray:

C works though

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EnterUserName:

Y works fopr me

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EnterUserName:

:)

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halex-ab:

Quan, I thought it was the other way around..

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halex-ab:

Nope, you're right..

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halex-ab:

lol

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Quan:

according to the keybindings chart, Y is switch card, C is switch input

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EnterUserName:

oh ok :)

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Quan:

can't test atm, got an archive job trying to finish :P

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Quan:

so for EnterUserName: Y – he has two cards

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Quan:

for informavore: C – he has one card multiple inputs...

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halex-ab:

Seems right..

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Quan:

in fact, informavore: you may not even need to have created the second input in mythtv-setup

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Quan:

try taking it out and hitting C while in livetv

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Quan:

man 5 hours to make a dvd with mytharchive :(

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halex-ab:

Eek..

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Quan:

something fubar here

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Quan:

nuvexport never took near this long

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Quan:

I need to quit being cheap and just get a pvr-XXX

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Quan:

hehe

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halex-ab:

lol

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Quan:

it's all the re-encoding that's taking it so long

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EnterUserName:

hey im only getting 13 channels

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EnterUserName:

with mythtv anyone nkow why?

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Quan:

EnterUserName: you used the wrong channel lineup then

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Quan:

i.e. you're using on air instead of cable

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EnterUserName:

hrm no its a proper line up

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EnterUserName:

its getting snow

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** Quan needs to find a way to auto-add the mythcommflag stuff to a cutlist :( **

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Quan:

I've got like 50 episodes of cartoons I need to put on dvd, it'll take forever to manually cutlist them :P

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EnterUserName:

Quan: i'm getting snow onm y lineuip

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Joffray:

mythcommflag --gencutlist

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Quan:

EnterUserName: on both, analog, or digital?

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EnterUserName:

just analog

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Quan:

Joffray: just run that as a user job?

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EnterUserName:

but it works from my tv

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Joffray:

sure

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Quan:

Joffray: slick, thanks :)

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Joffray:

--gencutlist Copy the commercial skip list to the cutlist

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informavore:

Quan: OK, so with no channels, the backend crashes, so created channel 3 named 'PVR' it still gives errors on startup, but at least backend doesn't crash. 'C' doesn't work, but 'Y' does to switch inputs.... So how do I schedule a recording on this thing?

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Joffray:

you don't have any channels

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Quan:

informavore: you can't schedule a recording on the comp input, you'll have to do them manually

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Quan:

informavore: or get an ir blaster and set up the com source with a lineup

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EnterUserName:

quan: any ideas?

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Quan:

EnterUserName: make sure you have the lineups correcxt, other than that nope

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Quan:

EnterUserName: does it work if you use kdetv/tvtime/ some other live tv app?

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EnterUserName:

um its an mpeg card

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EnterUserName:

but it works in a tv

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Quan:

hmm

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EnterUserName:

let me try scanning

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EnterUserName:

hmm

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EnterUserName:

should i enable Perform EIT scan

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Joffray:

ummm

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Joffray:

won't work unless you're doing DVB stuff

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Joffray:

or HD stuff (I think)

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halex-ab:

Nah, just DVB..

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Joffray:

ahh

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halex-ab:

Anyway, EIT data quality sucks.. lol

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EnterUserName:

oh ok im doing scanchannels

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EnterUserName:

that appears to be finding them all

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Joffray:

really? it's much more accurate than xmltv for some sources

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EnterUserName:

that appears Ok thanks for all you rhelp i got it working

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EnterUserName:

maybe it was using the wrong frequency..

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halex-ab:

Well, in Australia, only half the networks broadcast the data, the rest have limited info..

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GreyFoxx:

In Video sources, what is your frequency table set to ?

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halex-ab:

Probably is more informative in other places though..

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EnterUserName:

it was set to default i changed it to us-cable and now it works

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EnterUserName:

plus I did a scan channels

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Leebier:

anyone around have much practice with using an IR blaster to change chans on a STB? I have mine working 95% but it doesn't seem to want to take 3 digit channel numbers. I assume it's an easy edit to change_chan.sh but I'm just not familliar enough with the scripting language to know what to change

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BULLE:

hmmm, i doubt the shell script handles the chan digits one at a time

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BULLE:

even though i have not seen the script though

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EnterUserName:

pretty cool

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EnterUserName:

i can watch HOCKEY and another show at the same time :)

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Leebier:

BULLE, there seems to be a for loop

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BULLE:

Leebier: is the script available somewhere online ?

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Leebier:

http://www.htpcug.com/blaster.htm

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Leebier:

do a search for change_chan.sh, should be about 70% of the way down

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Joffray:

that should work with 3 digits

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BULLE:

Leebier: yeah, as Joffray said, that should work with arbitrary number of digits

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BULLE:

well, upp to some max for the shells max arg length

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Leebier:

well, that makes sense

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Leebier:

but, it doesn't work :)

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BULLE:

so fiddle a bit with the sleep values ?

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Leebier:

have tried that

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Leebier:

i see the 3rd digit appear on the screen

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Leebier:

but it looks like the OK gets sent too fast

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BULLE:

so add another sleep ?

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B5Duster_:

Hey all

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Leebier:

hrmm

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B5Duster_:

I'm having hardlock issues on my mythvbox. It's based on a via epia SP13000 mobo with a pvr250 card

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Leebier:

actually, making the sleep longer just borked it more

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B5Duster_:

hardlocks when A) watching a DVD occasionally and B) when watching/recording live tv

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Leebier:

it started bringing up the cable's OSG

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B5Duster_:

happens sporadically, sometimes after 8–9 hrs of use

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B5Duster_:

no log anomalies

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B5Duster_:

tested ram cpu, etc – no heat or HD issues

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B5Duster_:

happens more often if I have a disc in my dvdrom drive I noticed

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B5Duster_:

could be due to myth probing the drive once in a while – not sure

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B5Duster_:

I noticed that /proc/interrupts shows like 4 or 5 resources sharing IRQ 11 – one being ivtv0 (PVR card) and some VIA chipset

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B5Duster_:

not sure if that could be it – do you guys have any advice?

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mjelva:

is there a keyboard shortcut to make mplayer load a subtitle file with the same name as the movie file?

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mjelva:

or some other way that i could bind in lircrc?

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aarcane:

how do I tell mythtv that it's not running any backend and to quit trying to connect to the bloody non-existant backend ?

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aarcane:

sorry, mythfrontend

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BULLE:

aarcane: im not sure you can

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aarcane:

BULLE, must be some way

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GreyFoxx:

it should only connect to thebackend if you go into the TV functions

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aarcane:

whether or not I go into the TV functions, it still tries to connect on exit

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Leebier:

gah

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Leebier:

i am, in fact, smarter and dumber than i thought

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Leebier:

the problem isn't the script

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Leebier:

the problem is the cable box doesn't seem to like having 3 digit numbers entered (even from its remote!)

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GreyFoxx:

aarcane: I've never seen it do that, but to be honest it'srare I run the frontend without a backend to reach

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aarcane:

GreyFoxx, I don't have any TV tuner hardware, so I'm not using the backend at all. I'm using it for media, games, and music only since it provides all that functionality :)

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informavore:

Quan: Thanks for the help... I think it works...

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Quan:

informavore: cool :)

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aarcane:

if anyone knows how to disable the backend check on exit, could you PM the information to me? I'll be leaving to go to dinner with my wife shortly.

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CBiLL:

looking to pick a mobo for my standalone Mythtv based on Core 2 Duo full size atx .. any recommanations? I would like optical audio and coax audio in/out on the board intel chipset

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EnterUserName:

hey all

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CBiLL:

Howdy

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EnterUserName:

its all working nicely though the adaptec 2410 is not as good as the pvr-150

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EnterUserName:

either that or the pvr is hooked up to the digital :)

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** EnterUserName thanks all for there help :) **

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** Cardoe is aiming for another MythTV 0.20-fixes Gentoo snapshot tonight. **

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Cardoe:

FYI

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russK:

mythfrontend says something is using /dev/dsp but fuser says otherwise

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deny_:

ati hdtv wonder, how can i install that on my system, i have tried reading the instructions from mythtv.org but pain, hard to get, needs more description

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Joffray:

well

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Joffray:

what's not working

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deny_:

i cant find the card on my system, its fedora core 6, latest kernel

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Joffray:

do other programs work okay with the card?

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deny_:

kdetv

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deny_:

works ok, but not good

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deny_:

thank you, sorry for bother

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monkeypet:

anyone using xbox as frontends experiencing slow menus?

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Chicago:

My first capture card is set to /dev/v4l/video0.... for the purposes of VLC streaming... what is my video device name for and audio device name for tuner1? I have always experience /dev/v4l/video0 as having video & audio. Is there a separate audio device name for my first tuner or should I use /dev/v4l/video0 also? The default value for the audio in the VLC streaming wizard is /dev/dsp... and I don't want to send all my syste

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Chicago:

m sounds... just the audio from the first tuner on my Hauppauge MCE-500.

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Chicago:

Does the Hauppauge MCE-500 output MJPEG?

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BULLE:

Chicago: no, mpeg2

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Quan:

anyone else notice mytharchive doesn't calculate size right?

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Quan:

eh this is werid, can't play some recordings...says "RingBuffer(): failed to open remote file XXX.nuv

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Quan:

but in watch recordings the preview works :P

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Quan:

WTF over?

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PointyPumper:

hey

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PointyPumper:

what is this error

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PointyPumper:

?

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PointyPumper:

Taking too long to be allowed to read

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halex-ab:

If it's to do with your PHP grabber, please use the related channel..

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Leebier:

anyone have any ideas why attempting to capture video on my PVR-350 (capture alone even w/o output) is freezing the system solid (in or out of myth)? When running tests after setting up modprobe, everything worked fine

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J-e-f-f-A:

Hi guys... Long time no see... Anyone here that's jumped to 64-bit have a perference for A64 vs Intel?

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J-e-f-f-A:

(sorry, kinda ot...)

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hjohnson:

I'm liking my Athlon 64 X2

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hjohnson:

imho, AMD's dual-core implementation is better than Intel's

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hjohnson:

since the two CPUs are more tightly interconnected

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J-e-f-f-A:

hjohnson: Which distribution are you running, and is it the 64-bit version?

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hjohnson:

debian/amd64

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hjohnson:

hmmm.. so... to go to cuba at the end of the month, I need to fly to DC.. go figure

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J-e-f-f-A:

hjohnson: I'm running a Dual PIII 866 atm with FC4 — Looking to buy a dual-core system, and run FC5–64 on it...

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hjohnson:

J-e-f-f-A: not a big fan of fedora myself..

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dtm:

hjohnson: you've gotta be properly debriefed, louse-treated, and detained for communism^Wterrorism

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hjohnson:

dtm: hehe

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J-e-f-f-A:

hjohnson: No? I haven't had any issues with it... I've been using it for approx 1–1/2 years now. Seems pretty stable to me, and seems to work well with Myth.

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hjohnson:

J-e-f-f-A: i've been running debian for almost a decade now, which is part of it. :P

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hjohnson:

dtm: given some other places I've visited, hehe

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J-e-f-f-A:

Thanks hjohnson – I've gotta hit the sack now, but I thought I'd try to get a quick opinion or so before I did... Going to a local computer show/sale tomorrow afternoon with a pocket full of cash... ;-) My .20 backend will really kick booty!!!! ;-)

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hjohnson:

hehe

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J-e-f-f-A:

Hey, another (hopefully quick) question to throw out there — any motherboard chipsets I should stay away from???

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hjohnson:

my basement machine is a dual core athlon 64, 1GB RAM, 1.2TB RAID

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J-e-f-f-A:

(Using Hauppauge PVR-250 and PVR-500 and HD3000)

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hjohnson:

J-e-f-f-A: i'd go with NForce4 if I was you.. stay away from the via chipsts

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Leebier:

gah, i have this thing 95% working, shame that the only thing broken at the moemnt is tha actual VIDEO CAPTURE, without which, a mythbox is fairly useless :)

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J-e-f-f-A:

hjohnson: My current box is a dual PIII 866 w/512ram and 760GB LVM ... My .20 will have comparable storage, but be much, much faster... ;-)

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J-e-f-f-A:

hjohnson: Thanks — I'll look for a good Nforce4 mb then.... ;-) Goodnight all... ;-)

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dtm:

nforce is fully supported now?

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hjohnson:

dtm: yeah, I haven't had an issue with it

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hjohnson:

I'm running an Asus ANE or something like that..

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hjohnson:

PCI and PCI-E

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brendan__:

hi, i'm having audio trouble with mythtv. I'm using a v4l capture card, and recording audio on the Line chanel of my sound card. I had mythtv working properly when the backend and frontend were on the same computer, but earlier today i moved the master backend onto another computer, and now i'm running a slave backend and frontend now.

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brendan__:

anyone have any ideas

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brendan__:

i have read the mailing lists and the troubleshooting section in the howto

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capt-rogers:

I cannot change the channels with Mythtv on my set-top cable box. But the cable-box and remote, do have the builtin ability to AUTOTUNE and schedule programs. Therefore I just tell Mythtv to manually record based on the cable-box's schedule. Probably best to get a working IR-blaster, but this method works too.

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RyeBrye:

Anyone know what would case this message: ivtv0: This is the second unit of a PVR500

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RyeBrye:

ivtv1: This is the second unit of a PVR500 ?

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RyeBrye:

(they are both considered the second unit... so it disables the radio tuner on the card.. – which is on the first tuner, I guess)

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RyeBrye:

I emailed the ivtv-devel list

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aarcane:

anyone know how to disable the mythfrontend from talking to the mythbackend all together ?

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hjohnson:

hmm.. I wonder if the ivtv drivers are working better with the samsung tuner modules on the PVR-500

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PointyPumper:

uhm

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PointyPumper:

got a lil problem

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PointyPumper:

my mythtv box is not transcoding :(

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PointyPumper:

what can be happening?

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Led-Hed:

I'm planning an upgrade from 0.19.1 to 0.20. My 0.19 backend is running on MySQL 4.1. Are there any prerequisites for upgrading to 0.20?

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xris:

nothing more than .19

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EnterUserName:

hey all

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EnterUserName:

What would cause the authtype basic not to work with mythtvweb

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halex-ab:

AuthType basic is the username and password prompt..

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EnterUserName:

yes i know but it stopped working after installing new apache and using env and rewrite

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PointyPumper:

ender224455

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PointyPumper:

EnterUserName

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PointyPumper:

enable the auth modules

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PointyPumper:

xD

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PointyPumper:

i had the same problem when updating to apache 2.2

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k-man:

hello

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k-man:

will mythweb run with apache2.2 and php5?

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Agrajag-:

yeah

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k-man:

Agrajag-, im having some issues getting it going

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k-man:

im getting this error: 5163230001490221

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k-man:

oops

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k-man:

crapola

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k-man:

shite

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Cardoe:

clearly data k-man didn't want us to see

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k-man:

yes... clearly he hit return too quickly

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EnterUserName:

hmm

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EnterUserName:

516

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EnterUserName:

im writing it down mebbe its a password

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degreseven:

is anyone have a surround sound home theater receiver connected to their myth box, and if so, how did you connect it?

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EnterUserName:

umm

[06:46:19]

EnterUserName:

optical

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EnterUserName:

or coaxial

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EnterUserName:

i have surround sound using optical and coaxia

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degreseven:

what sound card do you use?

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EnterUserName:

umm NForce something

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degreseven:

onboard?

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EnterUserName:

yup

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EnterUserName:

do an aplay -L

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EnterUserName:

u'll see if your card will let you do it

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EnterUserName:

umm

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EnterUserName:

that was a mistake

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EnterUserName:

sorry i tried to run that locally dont ban me :(

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degreseven:

i just have a cheap sound card though, no optical or coax connections

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k-man:

i get this error: /var/www/mythweb/.htaccess: Invalid command 'php_value', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration

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degreseven:

which will give the best quality of those 2?

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EnterUserName:

oh

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k-man:

any idea why i'd be getting that Agrajag-?

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EnterUserName:

degre: id ont think you can get surruond unless u have a 6 port card

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EnterUserName:

or 3 input card or something..

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EnterUserName:

Oh i know now a 6 channel card

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degreseven:

im wondering what sound card i should get

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EnterUserName:

oh

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EnterUserName:

if you can find a card with optical and is supported by linux

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EnterUserName:

optical is the best

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EnterUserName:

if not go with coaxial

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degreseven:

ok, thanks

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EnterUserName:

oh your speaker system needs tosupport coaxial or opticalas well

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EnterUserName:

So thats another dependency

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jbwan:

evening

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dtm:

:-o

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jbwan:

dtm!

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jbwan:

:)

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dtm:

!!

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jbwan:

ok...so the skinny on wintv 500

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jbwan:

good or no good?

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jbwan:

I was immediately ready to buy one

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jbwan:

and have been reading disappoint reviews

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xris:

jbwan: it's essentially dual 150's

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jbwan:

yes I know

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xris:

no other real options for hardware encoders

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jbwan:

I've read complaints about changing to the Samsung chipset

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xris:

yeah. that much sucks

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jbwan:

I was thinking about two 250 or 350s

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jbwan:

but then there's the issue with remote access

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xris:

350 isn't worth it

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jbwan:

with dual cards

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xris:

500 is two cards

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xris:

just on one card

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jbwan:

right

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xris:

it is literally just two 150's

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jbwan:

is the picture degredation and fuzzy edges that big of a deal?

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xris:

if you have the space, two 150's costs less than a 500

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jbwan:

or is that being hyped?

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xris:

never had any trouble with my 150.

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jbwan:

I do

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xris:

was light years ahead of my old bttv card, and better than the 250's I'd seen

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jbwan:

but then I have to figure out what remote combination to use

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jbwan:

so I can use a single remote

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jbwan:

with both 150s

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xris:

single remote for what?

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jbwan:

I definately want dual tuner

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jbwan:

if I use two 150 cards

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jbwan:

instead of the 500

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xris:

but remote for what.. to control mythtv or a cable box?

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jbwan:

oh

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jbwan:

myth

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xris:

and what does that have to do with your tuner card?

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EnterUserName:

You can use ONE pvr remote control for 2 devices

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jbwan:

you can only have one 150 IR module in use at a time

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EnterUserName:

for receiving

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xris:

jbwan: so? the remote controls mythtv, not the tuner

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jbwan:

so there's no conflict?

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jbwan:

k

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EnterUserName:

im using my hauppage with my adaptec and pvr150

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EnterUserName:

now THE Blaster on theo ther hand..

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jbwan:

<---- still a newb at this :)

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EnterUserName:

however if you have 2 satellite or digital boxes

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EnterUserName:

you will probably want 2 blasters

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EnterUserName:

dont ask me how to set that up :p

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xris:

jbwan: the remote is completely separate from the tuner for that sort of thing. it goes straight to lirc. doesn't actually control the tuner at all

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jbwan:

cool

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xris:

EnterUserName: digital == firewire, and it works over the firewire. :)

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EnterUserName:

hmm

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EnterUserName:

firewire ?

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EnterUserName:

im using a ir blaster..

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EnterUserName:

let me look at the back of my bxo :p0

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xris:

you need an HD box for firewire

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EnterUserName:

oh ok

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xris:

imho worth the $5 upgrade

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EnterUserName:

High Definition Box/

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EnterUserName:

?

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xris:

yeah. it's $5/month for me

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EnterUserName:

hmm

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dtm:

xris: to go from ntsc to hdtv is $5/mo?

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EnterUserName:

thats new to me :) What happens if you dont have a hd tv :)

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EnterUserName:

lol

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xris:

dtm: $5/month per box, and additional $5/month per box for HD

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xris:

EnterUserName: I don't. doesn't matter.

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EnterUserName:

how does it work ?

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EnterUserName:

how does it connect using firewire and so forth mythtv has it built in/

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xris:

most stuff isn't HD. just comes in at 528x480 or whatever the channel is (there are different resolutions)

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xris:

mythtv natively supports the motorola boxes

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xris:

I currently have 2 boxes daisy chained.

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xris:

myth -> box1 -> box2

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EnterUserName:

hmm

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EnterUserName:

so box1 and box2 are configured differently how about using other boxes other than motorolla

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xris:

box1 and box2 show up as different tuners in myth

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xris:

other boxes work, but may need IR blasters to control them

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cjl2004:

hello. Was wondering if MythTV has been optimized for AMD64 processors and where can I find a copy?

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Joffray:

compile it from source

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Joffray:

www.mythtv.org

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cjl2004:

thanks – downloading the source now

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PointyPumper:

Joffray

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PointyPumper:

i'm having problems with transcode :/

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PointyPumper:

can u help me?

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PointyPumper:

it doesnt seem to be working

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Joffray:

I'm a little intoxicated, but

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Joffray:

what's the problemz

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halex-ab:

lol, you're always intoxicated.. ;)

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Joffray:

do u have a probme with that?

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halex-ab:

Notorious, no..

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halex-ab:

Just saying..

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halex-ab:

Notorious, no*

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halex-ab:

Damn autocomplete.. lol

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Joffray:

Notoirus?

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Joffray:

heh

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halex-ab:

No no..

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halex-ab:

There we go..

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Joffray:

vermouth + triplesec+ gin does not go well together

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Joffray:

but I drank it anyway

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halex-ab:

Woah.. getting into the heavy stuff..

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PointyPumper:

jajaja

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Joffray:

so what's the porbme?

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PointyPumper:

well, the job seems to be queued

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Joffray:

ok

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PointyPumper:

but, in a sec

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PointyPumper:

it finishes :/

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PointyPumper:

and says that it has been completed

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Joffray:

well

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Joffray:

what are the settings for you transcode

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PointyPumper:

i'm transcoding to mpeg4

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Joffray:

k

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PointyPumper:

is that hardware based? :/

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Joffray:

what bitrate

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PointyPumper:

2200

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Joffray:

hq or not?

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PointyPumper:

no

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Joffray:

look in the db

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PointyPumper:

i got sd tv only xD

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Joffray:

if it's pointing to a .nuv file

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Joffray:

then it transcoded it

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** Joffray shrugs **

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** halex-ab needs coffee **

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** Joffray needs to go to bed **

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Joffray:

almost 2 am

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PointyPumper:

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[08:38:54]

PointyPumper:

ahvent said anything

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halex-ab:

OK, so there's two drunks in this channel.. lol

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PointyPumper:

i dont know what i did

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PointyPumper:

but its working now :S

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PointyPumper:

thx anyway xD

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Joffray:

hmm

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Joffray:

should I wake up early for the Chelsea match or not

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halex-ab:

If you've got more alcohol left, then yeh..

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Joffray:

I guess it's on at 11am

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halex-ab:

'night kids..

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Led-Hed:

anyone awake?

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Led-Hed:

I just upgraded to MythTV 0.20, but I cant seem to get xine to work as my default player in MythVideo

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PaulWay:

Hi all!

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Led-Hed:

hi

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PaulWay:

Probably a simple question: my new front end seems to be trying to connect to the back end on port 0 to watch video.

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PaulWay:

But it's connecting on 6543 and MySQL for all its other traffic.

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Led-Hed:

port 0 or tunner 0?

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PaulWay:

TCP port 0.

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Led-Hed:

honestly I've never checked to see what port it uses

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Led-Hed:

but 0 doesnt make sense

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PaulWay:

Ah-ha – a bit of odd-hackery on the server shows that the 'BackendServerPort' setting must be set for the server.

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asperon:

hi guys, is it possible to run more then one instance of a plugin? i have different dirs for movies and tv shows, and id like to have two options from the menu both poining at mythvideo, but for different dirs, is this possible?

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rtsai:

/away/

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brunes:

Well everyone, I solved my playback issues by getting a new video card

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brunes:

works like a charm now

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brunes:

unfortunatley the firewire control / capture with the cable boxes is just too finicky

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brunes:

I can only get it to work 2–3 times before I need to reboot

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brunes:

I think I'm going to give up and bring all this back to the store :/

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SarahEmm:

anyone else here have issues with everything in MythWeb being very, very slow? my mysql process hits 100% CPU and it'll take minutes to pull up any mythweb page..

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mjelva:

in the default mplayer run command, what does %s do?

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RaYmAn-Bx:

SarahEmm: which mythtv/mythweb version? After upgrading to 0.20-fixes from 0.19-fixes my mythweb is much much faster

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Kelerion:

morning all

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SarahEmm:

RaYmAn-Bx: ahh. 0.19 here :)

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SarahEmm:

morning Kelerion

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SarahEmm:

RaYmAn-Bx: i'm migrating to a new backend soon anyway, i'll upgrade when i do so..

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RaYmAn-Bx:

I dunno if it'll help, but it definitely helped here :)

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RaYmAn-Bx:

hmm, mytharchive doesn't seem to be doing anything. Just told it to make a dvd, like an hour ago, and nothing in the log and no asking for a dvd or anything..

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RaYmAn-Bx:

and no particular cpu usage indication something is going on

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RaYmAn-Bx:

any ideas? :S

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kraut:

moin

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Kelerion:

ok...still having problems with this dvb-t... bah humbug!

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pepsiman:

works great for me

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Kelerion:

works great for me... in mplayer... lol

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Tommck:

can anyone help me figure out why my myth 0.20 (ubuntu dapper) doesn't know that I have a DVD in the drive? I'm trying to rip and it says "No Jobs. Checking and/or waiting for DVD"

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jduggan:

is the dvd drive mounted?

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Tommck:

jduggan – no

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Tommck:

I just inserted the disk..

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jduggan:

are the dvd settings in myth correct?

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jduggan:

ie, point to the right device?

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Tommck:

jduggan – well.. when I say "eject", it ejects the right device

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Tommck:

I'll double-check again.

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** Tommck is checking to see if he's a complete dumbass... **

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** Tommck has verified that he's a complete dumbass **

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Tommck:

I shuffled around a little hardware when I was diagnosing another problem...

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Tommck:

left the CDRW drive in my machine instead of the DVD drive :)

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jduggan:

ah, well there you are then

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jduggan:

:)

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Tommck:

yeah... silly

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Tommck:

jduggan – of course, now that I've rebooted, transcode says it can't access the drive... I don't know why

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RaYmAn-Bx:

permissions presumably

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jduggan:

what are the permissions on the device

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Tommck:

brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 3, 64 2006-11–05 09:41 /dev/hdb

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jduggan:

erm

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Tommck:

mythtv user is in the cdrom group

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jduggan:

hdb

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jduggan:

?

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Tommck:

yeah

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Tommck:

that's the device

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jduggan:

kk looks good to me

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RaYmAn-Bx:

Tommck: check fstab and make sure it's setup to allow mounting by users

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Tommck:

RaYmAn-Bx – it is... and it's mounted by the mythtv user

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jduggan:

is that the same device that's set in myth settings?

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Tommck:

jduggan – yeah

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jduggan:

can you call transcode from the cmd line?

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jduggan:

never used myth to burn DVD's.. not really sure how it does it

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Tommck:

jduggan – good point... guess I can cut and paste the command line

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Tommck:

jduggan – not trying to burn.. trying to rip

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jduggan:

yea, my bad

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** Tommck proves himself a dumbass twice in a row **

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Tommck:

transcode's not installed :)

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Tommck:

in my defense though... what kind of error message is that?

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jduggan:

i was just about to say

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jduggan:

but first thing to try is calling whatever myth is calling direct from the cmd line

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Tommck:

yeah

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mirak:

hi

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mirak:

is it easy to use ir blaster of pvr 150 ?

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jduggan:

yes

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jduggan:

a piece of piss

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SarahEmm:

err.. the pvr150 has an ir blaster?

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jduggan:

SarahEmm: yes

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jduggan:

some models

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jduggan:

the MCE ones

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SarahEmm:

ahh.

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** SarahEmm has a -500, but dunno what model it is **

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mirak:

jduggan: the setup is done through mythtv ?

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jduggan:

no, lirc

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mirak:

for pvr 150 should I use pvr150 type card or v4l ?

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mirak:

because I don't get sound with PVR150 but I get it with v4l

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Tommck:

jduggan – so... any idea why libdvdread can't open /dev/hdb? (we already checked permissions before)

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Tommck:

jduggan – I can't play the DVD from mythtv either

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jduggan:

are you sure its pointing to the right device.. and i assume /dev/hdb actually *IS* the dvdrom?

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Tommck:

jduggan – yes, it is

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Tommck:

I even did a "cat" on some stuff in /proc to make sure

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jduggan:

can the mythtv user mount /dev/hdb

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Tommck:

jduggan – yes.. it currently is mounted

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Tommck:

(by that user)

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mirak:

I have a dvb card plus a pvr150, I don't understand how to swtitch from one to the other

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Tommck:

jduggan – should it be mounted?

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jduggan:

was it already mounted and in use before libdvdread tried accessing it?

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mirak:

it says C and Y keys but that doesn't work

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Tommck:

jduggan – It was mounted... in order to get the DVD info, I would assume it would have to

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Tommck:

and "mount" shows that it is still mounted

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jduggan:

try unmounting it, and if you're browsing that dir on the cmd line or something, move away from that dir

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jduggan:

then use whatever prog ur using that calls libdvdread

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Tommck:

interesting... that seemed to do it... had to manually unmount

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Tommck:

if transcoding requires an unmount, why doesn't MythDVD unmount the drive?

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TrueNovice:

Mythtv stopped working and I reinstalled. Now I got error:Failed to find network interface eth0

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mirak:

jduggan: when I press the C keys it stays on the initial video source

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jduggan:

Tommck: sounds like something else already had the device locked

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Tommck:

jduggan – this machine is a mythtv-only machine... maybe some default ubuntu server process mounts it?

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jduggan:

mirak: im afraid i cant help with your problem, ive never used more than one card

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Tommck:

jduggan – dumb question, but... will it rip in the background? (can I leave the Rip/Transcode screen?)

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mirak:

I don't understand this video source stuff

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jduggan:

Tommck: probably another mythtv process mounted it before, and ive no idea, i never ripped a dvd, i'd like to think you could navigate but from experience, i doubt it will :)

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mirak:

so I have setup the pvr150 to get channels frm analog tunner

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mirak:

now if I want to switch to composite input, how do I do that ?

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mirak:

do I need to create another video source ?

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Tommck:

mirak – I think so... though I have never used more than one source on the same card

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Tommck:

mirak – how are you going to change channels? is this a satellite or cable box?

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mirak:

Tommck: cable box

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mirak:

Tommck: I will use i blaster some day, but that's not for now

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Tommck:

mirak – so.. how do you change channels?

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mirak:

cable remote

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Tommck:

mirak – so you're not automatically recording anything ?

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mirak:

not yet

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Tommck:

oh.. ok

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Tommck:

I was confused.

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mirak:

I am informaticien and have problems configuring mythtv

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mirak:

that's odd

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mirak:

pffff

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mirak:

mythheavy

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mirak:

how to setup composite input for pvr 150 ???

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Imaginativeone:

how do I actually watch tv with mythtv?

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Imaginativeone:

setting this shit up is fucking HARD

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RaYmAn-Bx:

not really. Once you've been through mythtv-setup you should be set

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RaYmAn-Bx:

assuming you've setup your tv card correctly in linux

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Imaginativeone:

ah...I might have gone wrong there...

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Imaginativeone:

I was hoping Mythdora would have handled that

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RaYmAn-Bx:

oh, no idea about that

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mirak:

no he is right it's just hard

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Imaginativeone:

is there a way to set up my card again?

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Imaginativeone:

even when everything else is up and running?

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Imaginativeone:

should I just reinstall?

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RaYmAn-Bx:

what card do you have? Are you even sure it has linux drivers? :)

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Imaginativeone:

Hauppauge 150

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Imaginativeone:

anyone know how to insure I have the correct drivers?

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fryfrog_:

Anyone ever see backend crash with "*** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/mythbackend: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x

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fryfrog_:

ad25cd88 ***" when visiting "recorded programs" in mytweb? This is on a *slave* backend, not the master backend :/

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mirak:

when try to record a programm I only have "do not record this programm" as schedul options

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mirak:

why ?

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fryfrog:

move to the item, then use the left/right keys to change it

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Imaginativeone:

I have that same problem

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fryfrog:

it cycles through the options

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Imaginativeone:

are you getting video?

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Imaginativeone:

I'm not getting any live tv yet

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mirak:

I get video

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mirak:

fryfrog: no it doesn't

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mirak:

fryfrog: it doesn't cycle.

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Imaginativeone:

how did you get the video to work?

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mirak:

I used mythtv already but with a pctv card with composite recording and didn't seen this problem before

[16:39:02]

mirak:

with pvr 150 ?

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Imaginativeone:

yeah

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mirak:

I use PVR 150 card type

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mirak:

I set a source with no channel grabber

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mirak:

I bind that source to composite1

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Imaginativeone:

is that set up during the install?

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mirak:

?

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Imaginativeone:

log on

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Imaginativeone:

the changes you're talking about...

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Imaginativeone:

where do you make them?

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Imaginativeone:

only during install?

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Uncivil:

hello

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Imaginativeone:

hi Uncivil

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Uncivil:

i came looking for all kinds of help if anyone is in the know

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Uncivil:

there is something about the instillation of this I dont understand

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Imaginativeone:

unfortunately I'm quite ignorant about MythTV...

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Imaginativeone:

but I will try

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Uncivil:

well

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Uncivil:

i put a fresh install of ubunto on my unix machine

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Uncivil:

ubuntu sorry

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Uncivil:

and thought the myth tv project would be fun

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Uncivil:

well im not really unix savy either

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Imaginativeone:

it's anything but "fun"

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Uncivil:

i am seeing that

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Uncivil:

frusterating is true

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Imaginativeone:

challenging, perhaps...

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Uncivil:

but i think i got it installed

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Uncivil:

the sql thing has me stumped

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Uncivil:

i see it running as a service

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Uncivil:

but i dont know how to access the db

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koffein:

"mysql -p" as root

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Uncivil:

i guess its my first time accessing a server im hosting

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Uncivil:

whats that do koffein

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Uncivil:

?

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riddlebox:

can anyone help me get my nvidia cards tv-out to work?

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koffein:

logs you into mysql as the root user and asks for password

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koffein:

if you have not set it, don't use -p

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Uncivil:

set what?

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koffein:

the password

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koffein:

I assume you mave ot

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koffein:

have not

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Uncivil:

for sql or root?

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koffein:

so just run mysql as root

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koffein:

for the root user in the database

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Uncivil:

it giving me access denied on both accounts

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Uncivil:

which may be my problem

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Uncivil:

perhaps i set a pw and didint realise it?

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Imaginativeone:

do I absolutely HAVE to have a tv to see live tv?

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Imaginativeone:

can I use my pc monitor instead?

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Neeesat25:

Juski are you around?

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jduggan:

riddlebox: the nvidia docs clearly explains tv-out

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jduggan:

Imaginativeone: no, a TV is just a display medium, you watch it on whatever screen you like

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Imaginativeone:

rats...I wish I could figure out why I'm not getting live tv (or the ability to record, for that matter)

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Uncivil:

grrr its not gonan let me into my sql db..i keep getting access denied

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jduggan:

Uncivil: not even as root?

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, I may have missed it but as root did you just type mysql?

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Uncivil:

this ubuntu liked me to type sudo before i do stuff

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Uncivil:

i forget that

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Imaginativeone:

jduggan: may I msg you?

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jduggan:

type, mysql -u root -p

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Uncivil:

im in there now

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jduggan:

ok

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Uncivil:

withiut sudo it dont ler me do anything

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, there is no root password for mysql in ubuntu when you install it

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Uncivil:

this is all so difficult

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Uncivil:

to me

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, I have a good site for you

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Uncivil:

i was hoping for for a one click bang its ready solution

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Uncivil:

its frusterating

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Uncivil:

but I hop eto learn something

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, this is a little bit old but it is pretty good,

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riddlebox:

http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, I can help you setup mythtv in Ubuntu, I have done it many times

[17:02:21]

Uncivil:

i think i have it set

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mirak:

why the hell now when I inside watch recording I see nothing ?

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Uncivil:

when I run the setup i get db errors

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, first did you get the packages from multiverse?

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Uncivil:

uhh

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Uncivil:

i got it thrugh synaptic

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, first of all you need to run mythtv-setup as the mythtv user

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, you need to open a terminal and type "sudo passwd mythtv"

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Imaginativeone:

do I need to do that as well?

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riddlebox:

then login as the mythtv user and run "mythtv-setup"

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, did you just install myth in Ubuntu?

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Imaginativeone:

uh no. Mythdora

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Imaginativeone:

Everything works...except for live tv

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Imaginativeone:

I even have the listings

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jduggan:

have you configured the input source correctly?

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, I have used knoppmyth, but never Mythdora, sorry

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Imaginativeone:

wow!!

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** Imaginativeone listens INTENSELY **

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Imaginativeone:

jduggan: possibly not.

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Imaginativeone:

would you help me with the steps?

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, did you get what I told you?

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Uncivil:

yes

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Uncivil:

when i do the sudu password mythtv

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Uncivil:

what that posed to do

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, no "sudo passwd mythtv"

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riddlebox:

it will ask you for a new Unix password

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Uncivil:

says command not found

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riddlebox:

paste what you are typing

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Uncivil:

sudu passwd mythtv

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jduggan:

sudo*

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Uncivil:

gah i knew that

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Uncivil:

i am so sorry

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Tommck:

sudo

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mirak:

how do I create a channel if I record from composite input ?

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Uncivil:

i will have to create a new user

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jduggan:

mirak: you using a STB?

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, you cant, the mythtv packages did that already

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Uncivil:

it wasnt keeping a user because of groups or something

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mirak:

jduggan: a what ?

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jduggan:

mirak: a set top box

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jduggan:

cable or satelite decoder

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Uncivil:

so i should start from scratch? it sounds like something goofed

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mirak:

jduggan: yes

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jduggan:

do you have epgs working yet?

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mirak:

jduggan: because he wants me to put a channel, otherwise I can't record

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mirak:

jduggan: I don't use that

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Imaginativeone:

is there a tutorial for what I need?

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jduggan:

mirak: i think you should

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, are logged in as user mythtv?

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mirak:

jduggan: its too complicated enough

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jduggan:

mirak: in 'channel editor' you set the freqid to the channel thats set on your set top box, then you need an external channel changer script to change the channel on your set top box via infrared or over a serial cable.. however you wish to communicate with the stb

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Uncivil:

there is no mythtv use

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Uncivil:

ubuntu was dumping the user because it didnt belong to a user group

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, you cant create it, the packages did already

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Uncivil:

well there isnt one

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, you wont see it

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jduggan:

just adduser mythtv

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jduggan:

and 'passwd mythtv'

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jduggan:

making sure you are root user

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mirak:

jduggan: there is a problem anyway, I can't delete recordings

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jduggan:

mirak: what is the error

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Uncivil:

ok i made a user

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mirak:

jduggan: it says no recordings, and says just before there are records in groups

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jduggan:

oh ive had that problem before

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jduggan:

have you checked in 'watch recordings'?

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mirak:

yes, the problem is here in fact

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mirak:

the log says can't autoexpire

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jduggan:

any given reason?

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jduggan:

permissions on the files?

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jduggan:

do they even exist?

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Chicago:

What did I screw up if I'm seeing '!!NoTrans:' all over the place in mythweb?

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Tommck:

OT: LVM question: Can anyone tell me how to figure out which physical drive contails a particular file?

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Tommck:

(the #lvm group is dead)

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Tommck:

group/channel/chatroom/whatever

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mirak:

mythtv sucksss

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Uncivil:

ok i make new user

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Uncivil:

mythtv

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mirak:

problem deleting files

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mirak:

it's weird, it doesn't seem to like when a path have two consectuive /

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Tommck:

mirak – why is that weird?

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, log out of your current use and log in as mythtv then run in Accessories-->terminal "mythtv-uset"

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riddlebox:

sorry, that is "mythtv-setup"

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mirak:

Tommck: it says filters have recording, but then it says there is no recordings

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Tommck:

mirak – I was responding to "it's weird, it doesn't seem to like when a path have two consectuive /"

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mirak:

thereforce i can't watch livetv recordings or scheduledrecordings

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Tommck:

having 2 consecutive "/" is not valid, as far as I know

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mirak:

Tommck: because ls /// is the same as ls /

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kormoc:

Tommck, sure is, ls ////usr////bin

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Tommck:

very strange..

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kormoc:

/ == /./

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kormoc:

erm

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kormoc:

// == /./

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Tommck:

never had occasion to to test this theory

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kormoc:

it's great, as when you're adding path components together, it's easy enough

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kormoc:

just tack on / on the front and then back, concat together, and it's valid, no checks needed

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Tommck:

for lazy developers

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Tommck:

:)

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kormoc:

heh, it's painful to check via bash :P

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Tommck:

I'd just figure there'd be a standard method to concatenate paths and deal with it

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mirak:

it says sorry no recording availables while it's actually recording something

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Uncivil:

ok i have goofed something

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Uncivil:

is there a way to just start over

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Uncivil:

and let the install do what it is posed to

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Uncivil:

the user thing is all goofed

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mirak:

Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, you synaptic to reinstall all mythtv-related packages, including mysql-server and mysql-client packages

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kormoc:

mirak, you can ignore that, it's not importanct

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mirak:

kormoc: and about the no recordings available, how to fix that ?

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kormoc:

that I donno

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Imaginativeone:

I need a little help; having trouble watching live tv

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Imaginativeone:

that's the ONE thing that not working

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Uncivil:

ok im reinstalling ubuntu

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Uncivil:

it keep locking up

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Uncivil:

im sure with all the other crap i have done

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Uncivil:

i have screwed somethign up in the process

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SpAcY:

Hi guys, bah my mythtv have a strange behaviour :] when i watch LiveTV it always record it ... (without press r)

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SpAcY:

it is new @ 0.20 ?

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Tommck:

SpAcY – it's always done that

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Tommck:

it's just more explicit now..

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Tommck:

you have to record to watch live tv

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Hausberg:

I am having problems with mytharchive it is crashing my frontend anyone who can help?

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kormoc:

SpAcY, aye, it's new to 0.20 to keep the live tv around after it's recorded

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kormoc:

SpAcY, it will auto-expire first, so it's no real harm

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Tommck:

kormoc – is it also new to stop you from watching live TV across show boundaries?

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SpAcY:

okies guys, no prob then :)

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kormoc:

Tommck, no, that shouldn't happen

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Tommck:

kormoc – every time I watch live TV and a show ends, the screen just freezes there

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Tommck:

ok... I'll check into it... I don't watch Live very much anyway

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t0mas:

hi

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t0mas:

Are there any debug options to use when MythTv keeps dying with "Sementation Fault"

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t0mas:

it does it like... at random...

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kormoc:

sure, you can do traces with gdb or strace, or similar

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kormoc:

typical debuging

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t0mas:

yeah, but I was hoping for some buildin debug option :)

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t0mas:

to get more verbose output on the console... It can't really be random.. it must error out on something

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t0mas:

but it's not clear what

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kormoc:

you can increase the verbrosity higher with -v all or similar

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Tommck:

t0mas – what about "-v all" ?

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t0mas:

sounds like a good idea

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t0mas:

I'll try

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Hausberg:

I put my frontend log bits to pastebin http://pastebin.ca/240209 this is the only notice I get when mytharchive crashes

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Hausberg:

it comes immediately after search files and when I choose recording and press OK

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, do you have a Nvidia card by chance?

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mirak:

does mythtv uses transaction to acces the relational database ?

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mirak:

it seems it's easy to corrupt the recordings parts

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Uncivil:

yes i do

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Uncivil:

gf4 fx 5200

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Uncivil:

will an ATI TV Wonder 200 PCI PVR give me issues with Myth TV?

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juski:

if it has v4l compliant drivers, no – probably not

[17:51:27]

Uncivil:

riddlebox: why do you ask if I have nvidia card?

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, because my nvidia card and every distro right now locks up as soon as I install the nvidia drivers

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Uncivil:

so dont instal the nvidia drivers?

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Uncivil:

i didint have the probelms when i was using fc2

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** Tommck thinks somebody failed statistics **

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Uncivil:

but with ubuntu its locking

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Uncivil:

since im installing fresh i dont have to install them

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, all I know is that as soon as I install them I get lock ups, but then without them I cannot get my tv out to work

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juski:

if you want mythtv to work properly I expect you'll have to install nvidia drivers

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Uncivil:

wonderful

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Uncivil:

it locks up but the mouse still moves

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riddlebox:

yup welcome to my world

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Uncivil:

haha

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juski:

might be indicative of a different problem

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jduggan:

Uncivil: maybe its the window manager then

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jduggan:

if your mouse is moving, i cant see it being the graphics?

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riddlebox:

juski, you shouldnt need them if the machine is only a backend that a different frontend connects to

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juski:

that's true

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jduggan:

i also hear the nv driver is very good

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jduggan:

you dont specifically need the nvidia offical ones

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riddlebox:

jduggan, you can disable nvidia in /etc/X11/xorg.conf top nv and it will run forever as soon as you enter nvidia it locks up

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Uncivil:

how do i find out if that driver is v4I compliant?

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jduggan:

riddlebox: maybe its an x extension you have enabled

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riddlebox:

jduggan, I dont know, which ones need to be enabled... I am also wondering if it is in the newer kernels, it seems to have started in 2.6.16

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riddlebox:

jduggan, maybe I will just install dapper again and not do any kernel upgrades and see if that fixes the problem

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riddlebox:

unless I can downgrade an edgy kernel to 2.6.15

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jduggan:

riddlebox: possibly a corrupt nv module?

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jduggan:

riddlebox: is it locking the whole box or just X?

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riddlebox:

jduggan, the whole machine

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Tommck:

MythTV's Internal player thinks my AVI file is 7883 hours long

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riddlebox:

only thing that works is the mouse, it moves and thats it

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Uncivil:

i get that too riddle

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Tommck:

and skip forward and skip backwards down do anything

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jduggan:

can you get back to the console?

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riddlebox:

jduggan, caps lock key gets stuck

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riddlebox:

jduggan, you cant do anything but reboot

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jduggan:

ah

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Uncivil:

and watch mouse pointer move

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riddlebox:

yeah

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jduggan:

id say there's a problem with the nvidia module then

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, is your card a geforce fx 5200 by chance?

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tormen0815:

hi

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Uncivil:

yes

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Uncivil:

it is

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Uncivil:

as a matter o fact

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riddlebox:

lol hrmm I think it may be specific to that card

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Uncivil:

you have same?

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riddlebox:

yup

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tormen0815:

Is it possible to use ALSA for the captureing devices?

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** Tommck has an FX 5200 and has no problems... **

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tormen0815:

It seems not, because the "ALSA:..." syntax is always changed back to "/dev/dsp"...

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Uncivil:

i hhad another card in but it had not tv out

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tormen0815:

?

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riddlebox:

Tommck, what distro do you run

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Tommck:

ubuntu dapper

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Tommck:

and before that, SUSE 9.1

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riddlebox:

Tommck, can you paste uname -r in here?

[18:02:18]

Tommck:

as a matter of fact, the 5200 is probably one of the most popular cards for MythTV

[18:02:23]

juski:

maybe try testing your memory extensively

[18:02:41]

riddlebox:

juski, I went out and bought a 1gb chip cause I assumed it was my memory

[18:02:56]

Tommck:

riddlebox – I'm running 2.6.15.27–686

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riddlebox:

I knew it, 2.6.15 kernels work

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riddlebox:

anything newer doesnt

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Tommck:

riddlebox – why do you need newer?

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riddlebox:

Tommck, have you done all kernel upgrades in dapper?

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Uncivil:

ok fresh install is done

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riddlebox:

Tommck, I am trying to use edgy

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Tommck:

riddlebox – as far as I know.. .I don't do them constantly

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tormen0815:

Before myth I was using ALSA and mencoder to record from my two capturing cards.

[18:04:14]

tormen0815:

How can I do this with myth?

[18:04:30]

tormen0815:

Or is it not yet possible?

[18:04:37]

riddlebox:

sorry I dont know

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Tommck:

tormen0815 – I have 4 cards

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tormen0815:

:-)

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jduggan:

Uncivil: have you tried downgrading the nvidia drivers?

[18:05:04]

Uncivil:

i just installed fresh ubuntu

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Uncivil:

so

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Uncivil:

i have nothing

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Uncivil:

:)

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Uncivil:

im gunna start all over

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riddlebox:

jduggan, how would I downgrade nvidia drivers? in ubuntu

[18:05:42]

Tommck:

www.google.com

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tormen0815:

Tommck: But do you use ALSA to record/capture from them or dsp?

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riddlebox:

ouch

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jduggan:

riddlebox: uninstall your original drivers then get an older driver package from nvidia.com

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riddlebox:

I havent tried that, I have only gotten the beta drivers

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Tommck:

tormen0815 – they're all encoder cards... so... doesn't need to use ALSA

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Tommck:

riddlebox – I've downgraded..

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tormen0815:

Tommck: nice :-)

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Tommck:

riddlebox – do you have the original .run file?

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riddlebox:

Tommck, I always install them in apt-get for ubuntu

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riddlebox:

I have installed the newer drivers from the .run file

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Tommck:

riddlebox – ahh..

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Tommck:

you can apt-get remove them

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riddlebox:

actually I am starting over fresh like Uncivil, I tried knoppmyth but I had the same problems

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jduggan:

checking google, i see alot about fontshadow

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Uncivil:

Tommck:can you reccoemnt driver ver number?

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jduggan:

bbl

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Tommck:

Uncivil – checking

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Uncivil:

ok...so re-dl new synaptic for myth tv

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riddlebox:

ok let me get my kernel-headers and source then I will try an older version of the drivers

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Tommck:

Uncivil – I'm running 1.0.8762

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Uncivil:

ok ill use that one

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riddlebox:

ok I will look for them

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Uncivil:

dated may 22 2006 Riddle

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Tommck:

riddlebox – I think it's a dapper package I'm using

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Uncivil:

whatas dapper?

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Tommck:

Uncivil – Ubuntu 6.06

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Tommck:

it's called Ubuntu Dapper Drake

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Uncivil:

ohh

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Uncivil:

sorry for the ignorance

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, the previous version of ubuntu

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Uncivil:

im usin Edgy

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Uncivil:

looks nicer than FC2 I can say that

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Uncivil:

but im still linux retarded

[18:13:22]

Tommck:

Uncivil – trial by fire :)

[18:13:34]

Uncivil:

i even took a course at the community college

[18:13:37]

Uncivil:

and well

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Uncivil:

i dont remember much

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Uncivil:

i try and force myself to use it as much as possible

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Uncivil:

but the machine just sits unloved

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SavageOne:

hi all

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Uncivil:

hi Savage

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SavageOne:

I got an epia board and a pvr-150 and I'm poulling my hair out

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SavageOne:

uncivil what's up

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SavageOne:

I'm using knoppmyth

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SavageOne:

I've done my apt-gets for everything concerned

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SavageOne:

4th install

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SavageOne:

going nuts

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SavageOne:

no channel editor seeing channels

[18:15:39]

SavageOne:

like it seems to detect the card

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SavageOne:

with 2.0

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Uncivil:

ill brb im gona go store and get this card

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SavageOne:

i found a nice howto for epia

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SavageOne:

with some wget instructions

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SavageOne:

but none work

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SavageOne:

the links are broken there and the mirrors are busted, and I've been unable to find the files with google

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riddlebox:

SavageOne, you are doing apt-get in knoppmyth?

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riddlebox:

SavageOne, you are not supposed to update knoppmyth, the only way is by using the new versions of knoppmyth to upgrade, not apt-get

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riddlebox:

hey cesman

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Uncivil:

how do i work these .run files?

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cesman:

hello riddlebox

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, you need to type, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, then you press ctrl+alt+F1, and log in, then type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then change directories to the run package and type "sudo sh *.run"

[18:21:47]

Uncivil:

ok its working on this other thing

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Uncivil:

the build essential

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Uncivil:

this is fun again

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Uncivil:

things are working

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, you will also have to probably do "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.16 linux-headers-`uname -r"

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Uncivil:

ok ill do this..thanks Riddle im run to store real fast and ill be back...man i appreiate all this help

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Vantage13:

what is needed to get mythtv to use a remote once it's setup with lirc and irw returns the proper codes?

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Vantage13:

i've got a lircrc and irexec is started, but mythtv doesn't seem to want to do anything with the remote

[18:27:49]

Vantage13:

anything I can do to diagnose what's going on? irw seems to work fine

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Krazylegz:

Hmm, no Zap2It survey this time for the renewal.

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riddlebox:

I noticed that as well

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riddlebox:

hrmm I cannot build the nvidia driver that old

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Imaginativeone:

I need a little help; having trouble watching live tv

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Imaginativeone:

that's the ONE thing that not working

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, you can record tv?

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Imaginativeone:

nah...not yet

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Imaginativeone:

I figure it's part of the same problem

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riddlebox:

ok what tuner card do you have?

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Imaginativeone:

geforce 5200?

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Imaginativeone:

I think it's nVidia

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riddlebox:

no thats your graphics card

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Imaginativeone:

I can go get the box if necessary...

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riddlebox:

what is the tv capture card you are using

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Imaginativeone:

ah! Hauppauge 150

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riddlebox:

ok, so have you installed the ivtv drivers?

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riddlebox:

and the firmware?

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Imaginativeone:

aaahhh...no

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Imaginativeone:

at least, not on purpose

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, what distro do you run?

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Imaginativeone:

can I do that in Linux?

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Imaginativeone:

Mythdora

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Imaginativeone:

which is FC4, I think

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riddlebox:

ok, I would assume it would do that for you, but type dmesg in a terminal then paste all of it at pastebin.ca

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Imaginativeone:

cool, cool!

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Imaginativeone:

can I have a few minutes to do that

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Imaginativeone:

?

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Imaginativeone:

the pc is in the basement

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riddlebox:

sure I will be around for awhile, do you have ssh? you could ssh to that machine and do it

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Imaginativeone:

LOL

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Imaginativeone:

I don't have that level of expertise

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riddlebox:

are you running linux on the machine you are at now?

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Imaginativeone:

nah, xp laptop

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riddlebox:

you could download putty to do it, from download.com

[18:57:35]

Imaginativeone:

cool! I'll try it

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, I know knoppmyth would detect that card and setup the system for you in a matter of minutes

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Imaginativeone:

yeah...I was just hoping to go with Fedora for my Oracle studies

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Imaginativeone:

do I want putty.exe?

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riddlebox:

yup

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Imaginativeone:

cool...I have the prog

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Imaginativeone:

do I need to know the Linux machine hostname?

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riddlebox:

nope, just the ip address of the machine

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Imaginativeone:

cool

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Imaginativeone:

now, let's see

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Imaginativeone:

in the basement, there's my Linksys Wireless B router

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Imaginativeone:

Windows machine

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Imaginativeone:

Linux machine

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Imaginativeone:

how do I find the ips?

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mythuser:

hi ... quick question:

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mythuser:

when i go to watch recordings, it brings up a dialog that says "select group filter" when i select a filter, it goes to recodings list, but it is blank, says "Sorry, No Recodings Available."

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mythuser:

any ideas?

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, I would go to the machine downstairs and type ifconfig

[19:04:51]

Imaginativeone:

cool! tell me the point at which I owe you money ;-P

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EnterUserName:

hi all

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mythuser:

hello

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, :) pass it forward

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EnterUserName:

Will MythWEB work with apache 1.3?

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riddlebox:

mythuser, I am not sure about your question yet, I am looking

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mythuser:

i found this

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mythuser:

http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /127378.html

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mythuser:

it says "run an export of the

[19:06:08]

mythuser:

database from phpmyadmin

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mythuser:

but i am not sure how to do that

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Uncivil:

riddle? I have a q. You said to press ctrl+alt+F1, and log in, then type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then change directories to the run package and type "sudo sh *.run"

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riddlebox:

mythuser, are you recording shows?

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mythuser:

no

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mythuser:

and i can not get into mythweb either

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, yeah

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Uncivil:

if the run package is on the desktop

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mythuser:

it happened last night

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mythuser:

i tried restarting

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mythuser:

and it is still doing it

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Uncivil:

what do i type

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Uncivil:

?

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riddlebox:

mythuser, your database may have been corrupted

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mythuser:

crap

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, what do you mean?

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Uncivil:

you said to change dir's to the run package

[19:07:44]

riddlebox:

mythuser, there is a command to check the database and fix errors, but I cannot remember it

[19:07:57]

mythuser:

i will google real quick

[19:07:59]

riddlebox:

Uncivil, cd = change directory,

[19:08:04]

Uncivil:

i have the file on my desktop

[19:08:14]

riddlebox:

Uncivil, what is your username?

[19:08:19]

Uncivil:

uncivil

[19:09:04]

riddlebox:

Uncivil, you would type "cd /home/uncivil/Desktop"

[19:09:07]

mythuser:

Some of these errors can be remedied by regenerating the seek table for all or a specific recording using mythcommflag --rebuild.

[19:09:10]

mythuser:

is that it?

[19:09:12]

Uncivil:

ohhh

[19:09:26]

riddlebox:

Uncivil, did you get the other packages I told you?

[19:09:33]

riddlebox:

mythuser, no thats not it

[19:09:39]

Uncivil:

i got the first

[19:09:42]

Uncivil:

im following your dirs

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Uncivil:

hrmm

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Uncivil:

no suh file or directoy

[19:10:12]

Uncivil:

need soace

[19:10:14]

Uncivil:

space

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Uncivil:

lol

[19:11:00]

Uncivil:

it asking about a kernel interface for this nvidia driver...I dont wan it ti dl an interface do I?

[19:11:31]

riddlebox:

no

[19:12:14]

Uncivil:

i really appreciate all this help...I am sorry for all my ignorance...I am trying to learn

[19:13:01]

Uncivil:

hrmm

[19:13:08]

Uncivil:

unable to build the kernel module

[19:13:32]

riddlebox:

yeah I thought so

[19:13:37]

mythuser:

i just logged in using putty

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mythuser:

and tried to run a mythfilldatabase

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mythuser:

and i am getting tons of errors

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mythuser:

on can not input into database

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, get this version 1.0–8774

[19:14:28]

riddlebox:

mythuser, I am looking it is an easy command

[19:14:51]

Uncivil:

how do i get graphical thing back?

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riddlebox:

you type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"

[19:16:10]

Uncivil:

ooo

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Uncivil:

i hop ei can remmeber all this

[19:16:21]

riddlebox:

:)

[19:16:46]

Dagmar:

Saner to just switch from runlevel 3 back to runlevel 4

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Dagmar:

...as in `telinit 4` to get back to GDM, and `telinit 3` to change to text console

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mythuser:

thank you riddle

[19:18:14]

riddlebox:

mythuser, I am looking but I am having trouble finding it I had to use the command the other day myself

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mythuser:

this command is to correct errors in the database?

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riddlebox:

mythuser, which command?

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riddlebox:

mythuser, here "mysqlcheck -r -umythtv -p mythconverg"

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Imaginativeone:

riddle: I'm having difficulty copying that information from vi to pastebin.ca

[19:25:21]

Imaginativeone:

could you help?

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mythuser:

thank you

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mythuser:

i will try it right now

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Hoxzer_:

/win 11

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Hoxzer_:

geez

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Imaginativeone:

that copies everything?

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Uncivil:

Riddle.. I am doing this but trillian put a smiley face in it sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.16 linux-headers-`uname -r"

[19:27:19]

Uncivil:

so whats the instal lunu ?

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mythuser:

mysqlcheck: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) when trying to connect

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mythuser:

i am trying this remotely

[19:30:06]

mythuser:

should i go to the machine and do it from there?

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mythuser:

ok, its running

[19:31:11]

mythuser:

pw was mythtv

[19:32:53]

mythuser:

it gets an error

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mythuser:

on every check

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mythuser:

error : 28 when fixing table

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riddlebox:

Uncivil sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17 linux-headers-`uname -r`

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riddlebox:

mythuser, it will fix them

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, do this, "rmmod ivtv" then "modprobe ivtv" as root

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riddlebox:

sorry for the delay guys I am also working on my own system

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Uncivil:

i understand

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Uncivil:

i appreciate any help

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Uncivil:

its all worth the wait

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mythuser:

np ,,, you are helping a lot dude, much appreciated

[19:37:22]

mythuser:

it is not fixing a lot of the parts of the db

[19:37:30]

mythuser:

for most, it says

[19:37:30]

mythuser:

mythconverg.mythweb_sessions

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mythuser:

error : 28 when fixing table

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mythuser:

status : Operation failed

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** juski realises something **

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riddlebox:

?

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Uncivil:

riddle

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Uncivil:

it tell me it couldnt find package linux-headers-uname-r

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riddlebox:

no you need linux-headers-`uname -r` --> you need the ticks in there

[19:40:27]

juski:

backticks

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juski:

` ` ` ` ` not ' ' ' ' '

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Uncivil:

ohh

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juski:

;)

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juski:

in mythmusic, I've been proposing making a change to make column listing variable width so that the currently selected column is the widest – but this is already the case (doh!) although there's no real reason for the width of the leftmost column to be as much

[19:42:28]

Uncivil:

jeeze...its amazing what happens when you type things right

[19:42:33]

juski:

heh

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Imaginativeone:

is the first ip address in a traceroute the origin machine?

[19:45:11]

riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, it would be the eth0 one

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riddlebox:

ohh sorry I read wrong

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Imaginativeone:

damn...I didn't see that

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Imaginativeone:

I'm having trouble finding the ip address of my Linux machine

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mythuser:

brb, i gotta run

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mythuser:

ill try again later

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mythuser:

thank you all for your help

[19:46:22]

Imaginativeone:

I did a traceroute, but I have no idea which of those ips to use

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, if you go to the pc, and type ifconfig as root, in fedora you may need to to su – first

[19:47:25]

Imaginativeone:

hmm...not recognizing that command

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Uncivil:

in my router under my dhcp it tells me my computer names to help me find my internal ip

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charlieS:

are there any themes that limit mythtv menus to the center rectangle TV is limited to? (because of overscan)

[19:47:33]

jduggan:

you shouldnt need to be root, just type the full path

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jduggan:

unless you modified permissions

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jduggan:

type /sbin/ifconfig

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Uncivil:

if that makes simple :)

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Imaginativeone:

thanks

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juski:

whoah since when did mythmusic display the track title etc in fullscreen vis mode?

[19:50:13]

riddlebox:

juski, you crack me up

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juski:

I'm sure I'd never seen it before

[19:50:36]

Imaginativeone:

you guys rock

[19:51:19]

juski:

I'm taking a seriously hard look at mythmusic & thinking of ways to improve it – then I'll make mockups for someone to work to / give ideas

[19:51:42]

jduggan:

juski: about time someone had a look at it :)

[19:52:16]

jduggan:

are all the plugins just xml calling mythtv functions?

[19:52:21]

juski:

hahaha

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juski:

if only

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jduggan:

they're modular code?

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juski:

I dunno but put it this way there's a lot more to them than just xml

[19:53:07]

jduggan:

ive not looked into the innards of mythtv yet, been working on getting a working bug free system

[19:53:11]

riddlebox:

I need to learn more programming stuff

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riddlebox:

jduggan, I had that once.......

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juski:

jduggan: well if you ever plan to code for mythtv you'd have to make sure any changes you make will work with the current svn head

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Uncivil:

im taking programming and it does nothing but confuse me

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riddlebox:

I know a some python

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Imaginativeone:

riddlebox: putty works!! wow!

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Imaginativeone:

what's next?

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, its a nice tool to have around

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juski:

I like the new 'squares' visualisation :)

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Uncivil:

ohh putty i like...We used that un my unix class

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jduggan:

juski: not saying i plan on developing for mythtv itself, maybe personal modifications

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, type dmesg in a terminal then copy all of that after you hightlight it all press ctrl+c then go to pastebin.ca and paste it all in

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juski:

putty's great & the best thing about it is that installing it only involves copying an executable

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riddlebox:

I know

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jduggan:

whats even better is to not have a windows box at all and use use a linux terminal

[19:56:01]

jduggan:

s/use/just/

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riddlebox:

:)

[19:56:08]

juski:

seriously though since when had mythmusic displayed the track info in fullscreen vis mode?

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juski:

just since 0.20?

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jduggan:

juski: ive never seen that?

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jduggan:

and im running .20

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jduggan:

heh

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juski:

that only needs a bit of fettling IMHO..

[19:57:27]

juski:

I think I'll try doing one of my improvement ideas myself

[19:57:51]

juski:

the 'select/deselect item then move to the next entry down automatically' thing.. a real timesaver

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riddlebox:

juski, the only thing I have done was I created a python app to integrate asterisk and mythtv, so that when I call home I dial a code and can setup a manual recording

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Uncivil:

wow

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juski:

riddlebox: get that sent to the mailing lists man

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juski:

mythtv needs everybody's input – it's a community effort

[19:59:45]

Imaginativeone:

pastebin.ca seems to be down

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riddlebox:

juski, I am not done writing it yet, I need to do error detection and all that stuff, plus right now it depends on mythweb, I need to have it insert it into the mysql database it self

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charlieS:

riddlebox: why not just use a cell phone's web browser?

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riddlebox:

charlieS, I do not pay for a data plan, plus I do not want a machine to be accessed through the net---paranoid

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riddlebox:

charlieS, I do not know apache that well

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riddlebox:

I dont want to come home and have a hard drive full because someone set a bunch of recordings

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RyeBrye:

you can set it up to require authentication

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juski:

riddlebox: lol

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riddlebox:

RyeBrye, dont know how.... I know I can read up on it, but I just dont do it

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charlieS:

you can password protect mythweb, but yea, dialing in is awesome for people without a data plan.

[20:03:07]

juski:

if you ever find an unprotected box out there do the right thing & tell its owner :)

[20:03:14]

RyeBrye:

Yeah... that is pretty cool to be able to dial in

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RyeBrye:

It might also be cool to have a thing that will check an stmp mailbox and look for recording instructions – so you could email it stuff to record

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fryfrog:

riddlebox: the mythweb comes with a .htaccess file an instructions for sucuring it :)

[20:04:30]

riddlebox:

I know one of these day I will read up on it

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Imaginativeone:

riddlebox: did you get my info?

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robbins876:

I'm having so much trouble with dedicated frontends... it's unreal

[20:06:09]

riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, nope, sorry where is it

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Imaginativeone:

hmm...I tried to paste it to pastebin.ca

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riddlebox:

haha I just searched for my site, and found this, http://nerdvittles.com/wp-commentsrss2.php?p=130 it references my script

[20:07:37]

riddlebox:

http://vallista.idyll.org/~james/

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, you paste it in the hit the submit button right? I need the url

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alan|home:

hi ho all

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riddlebox:

hello

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Imaginativeone:

riddlebox: may I msg it?

[20:12:24]

riddlebox:

yeah

[20:12:34]

robbins876:

Anyone have myth running on an xbox?

[20:12:52]

riddlebox:

not yet, need a xbox

[20:13:02]

charlieS:

robbins876: lots of people, according to the wiki.

[20:13:32]

Imaginativeone:

a buddy sold me his xbox360 for $50

[20:13:38]

charlieS:

wow mythtv-users is pretty high-traffic.

[20:13:43]

Uncivil:

ugh

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charlieS:

Imaginativeone: lol, wow.

[20:13:49]

riddlebox:

really, I will buy it from you for 60

[20:13:53]

Uncivil:

id sell my 2yr old for a xbox360

[20:14:01]

Imaginativeone:

lol

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charlieS:

Imaginativeone: are you sure it was a 360?

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Imaginativeone:

yep

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Imaginativeone:

he got "the newest one", so he was going to throw this one away

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Joffray:

360 is the newest one

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Uncivil:

the 360 is the newest

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Uncivil:

is it black or white?

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** charlieS finds the mythcenter to be a bit better **

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charlieS:

^theme*

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Imaginativeone:

it appears that there's two versions of 360

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jduggan:

premium model and a budget model

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Imaginativeone:

ah

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robbins876:

[root@localhost robbins876]# mysql -u root mysql

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robbins876:

ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)

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robbins876:

[root@localhost robbins876]# mysql -u root mysql

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robbins876:

ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)

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robbins876:

oops... didn't mean to paste that twice... how do i log in?

[20:17:29]

Joffray:

use your password

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robbins876:

what does teh syntax look like?

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Joffray:

mysql-upoop -pcrap -Dmythconverg

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Joffray:

poop is the user, crap is the password

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Joffray:

mythconverg is the database

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charlieS:

robbins876: you can edit my.cf to allow root to connect without a password from localhost..

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charlieS:

what's a good *nix app to spit out video information? Like.. what codec a given video is using, etc.

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xris:

charlieS: mplayer -identify

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xris:

or ffmpeg -i

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xris:

or tcprobe -i

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charlieS:

cool

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Uncivil:

awwww machine wont boot with capture card

[20:27:30]

charlieS:

nice, exactly what I wanted:

[20:27:31]

charlieS:

Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 480x480, 29.97 fps(r)

[20:27:31]

charlieS:

Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 1411 kb/s

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charlieS:

:))

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Imaginativeone:

riddlebox: still there?

[20:34:29]

riddlebox:

yeah

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Imaginativeone:

how do I register my nick?

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Uncivil:

woah riddle after I install that thing

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Imaginativeone:

I didn't know my msgs didn't reach you

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Uncivil:

it make wierd

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xris:

Imaginativeone: /msg nickserv help register

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Uncivil:

says xserver is disabled

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, click ok then when you get back to the console you need to do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev xorg-dev then rerun the .run file again

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ficusplanet:

Hey everyone. I recently purchased an EPIA EN12000EG and am trying to setup mythtv 0.20 in Ubuntu Edgy. The system is very unstable and I was wondering if anybody here had any experience with this hardware and had any pointers?

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Uncivil:

the console wont start

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, type ctrl+alt+f2

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Uncivil:

terminal

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Vantage13:

hi, i have a pvr-150 and the tuner video seems like it's "zoomed in". Any idea what setting I might need to adjust to fix that?

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tormen0815:

how can I clear MythMusic the whole database?

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tormen0815:

(in MythMusic)

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, just log in there and run that command I pasted

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tormen0815:

phpmyadmin?

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Uncivil:

ok

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Uncivil:

its doin somethin

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Imaginativeone:

did it paste?

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riddlebox:

nope

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Imaginativeone:

damn

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, once you register your nick you have to type /msg nickserv identify yourpassword

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Imaginativeone:

how about that...

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riddlebox:

there ya go

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Imaginativeone:

yipster

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Uncivil:

graphic thing back?

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Uncivil:

the start thing dont work

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Uncivil:

says startting GNOME discplay manager

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Uncivil:

but still terminal lookin

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, /etc/init.d/gdm start right

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, ok so your firmware and drivers are installed

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Uncivil:

riddle:correct

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Uncivil:

it says it starts

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Uncivil:

but i dont see it

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Uncivil:

err it says [ok]

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, did you add your card in the setup?

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, type startx once

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Uncivil:

yeah!!!

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Imaginativeone:

riddlebox: yes, added the card in the setup

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Uncivil:

ok now i can synaptic the myth stuff?

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, now type cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, you still need to get the ivtv drivers and install them and the firmware, what card do you have?

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Uncivil:

umm

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Uncivil:

tv womder 200

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riddlebox:

hrmm I am not familiar with that

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riddlebox:

hold on

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juski:

that's not a pvr card AFAIK

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Uncivil:

mine isnt?

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juski:

nope

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Uncivil:

juski?

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, when that runs for a bit hit ctrl+c

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Uncivil:

it says its a pvr

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riddlebox:

then open the mpg with a media viewer

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juski:

it's not supported in linux

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riddlebox:

juski, ouch

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Uncivil:

gah an i just bought it too

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juski:

find out if linux supports hardware _before_ buying :)

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Uncivil:

on the mythtv hardware listings people are shoing to use it

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juski:

the pvr 200 card from ATI ?

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Uncivil:

ya

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juski:

whoops...

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juski:

tv wonder 200 from ATI? I very much doubt it

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Dagmar:

Will not work.

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juski:

which listings are those?

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Dagmar:

Period.

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Uncivil:

theres a database on umm

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juski:

they might say "ATI TV WONDER" but sadly ATI lump all their cards under the same basic label

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Dagmar:

Then email those people and ask them how they got it working

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Uncivil:

darn

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juski:

my experience with ATI tuner cards in Windows was more "wonder why it's still not working"

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Imaginativeone:

riddlebox: can I do that remotely?

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Uncivil:

somone even said in here it would work

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juski:

who said?

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Uncivil:

i dont recall

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Imaginativeone:

open up the mpg, that is...

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Dagmar:

ATI, by and large, does not give a shit about end users.

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Uncivil:

was a few hours ago

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juski:

if you'd only said "tv wonder" then yeah

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juski:

but not their newer cards which have hardware encoders onboard

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Dagmar:

They care greatly about representing high benchmark scores and signing partnering agreements with other vendors, but they treat their users like shit.

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Uncivil:

no i recall spelling it out

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, you can do command remotely but you need to open the file on that pc to see if it recorded anything

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Imaginativeone:

got it

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juski:

Uncivil: sorry to be the bearer of bad news fella

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SavageOne:

man

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SavageOne:

if I had an epia mobo and a pvr-150 media center edition, would you recommend knoppmyth or doing like a fedora install and then installing mythtv

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Uncivil:

well money and time wasted then

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Uncivil:

oh well

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Uncivil:

i appreciate everyone help

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riddlebox:

SavageOne, it depends on how involved you want to get

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SavageOne:

riddle: i want to use mythbox for tv input and some basic features and I want it to work hehe

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juski:

Uncivil: if it's possible to trade the card in, do that. otherwise sell it on ebay or somewhere ;)

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SavageOne:

I did about 5 installs of knoppmyth

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, you will be ready though when you/if the card gets supported :)

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SavageOne:

no worky at all

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riddlebox:

SavageOne, what do you mean it didnt work

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SavageOne:

tried and tried

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juski:

knoppmyth is many things to many people. A silver buller it ain't

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Uncivil:

ill just put it in windows machine or something

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SavageOne:

well it boots into it and sees my card

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Uncivil:

and forget about all this other

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SavageOne:

buit i can't get it to detect channels or view tv

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SavageOne:

and the remote doesn't work

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, thats sad to hear

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SavageOne:

even tho I chose it from the list etc

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juski:

Uncivil: wait a sec...

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riddlebox:

SavageOne, which card do you have?

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SavageOne:

pvr150 mce edition

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SavageOne:

the one with the "dog bone" remote

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juski:

if that tv wonder card of yours isn't one of the newer ones featuring hardware encoding it might work

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riddlebox:

SavageOne, that should work great in knoppmyth

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SavageOne:

there was an epia howto on there too but all the wget links were broken

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SavageOne:

riddle: nope

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SavageOne:

hehe

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SavageOne:

it might be te mobo tho know what I mean?

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Uncivil:

how i know if it will or wont work?

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SavageOne:

there were some kernel updates for epia but none of them would work

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riddlebox:

SavageOne, when you do dmesg does it say that the ivtv drivers and the firmware are loaded

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SavageOne:

yes

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SavageOne:

hehe

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SavageOne:

it's off now

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SavageOne:

I formatted it and I'm gonna try mce just for kicks

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SavageOne:

but I'm going to give mythtv another shot tomorrow

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SavageOne:

just probably not going to use knoppmyth

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SavageOne:

it doesn't seem to like my setup

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riddlebox:

I can get you going in ubuntu

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SavageOne:

I don't get why mythtv doesn't put out a nice installer that's interview based

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SavageOne:

riddlebox: you can, how so?

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SavageOne:

with an epia mobo?

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juski:

SavageOne: feed back the info about your issues with knoppmyth to their team.. it's not gonna get fixed if nobody reports the issues they see

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SavageOne:

juski: my plan was to get it working, and then post something on the wiki

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riddlebox:

SavageOne, as long as ubuntu detects everything I would assume I can help you

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SavageOne:

ubuntu is debian based right?

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Cardoe:

Anyone see how the menus are doing OpenGL fades

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Cardoe:

anyone know how to make that happen?

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SavageOne:

so essentially I can get a ubuntu install on there and then just do apt-get install mythtv

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juski:

SavageOne: sign up to their forums... if stuff is broken that they need to fix, let em know

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juski:

Cardoe: it's in the appearance menu... change the painter method to 'opengl' then restart mythfrontend

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Uncivil:

juski:how do i know if its gonna work or not?

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SavageOne:

juski: I will, but as of now I don't know WHAT's broken

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SavageOne:

and someone already commented tha tht elinks were broken on the wiki

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Cardoe:

juski: where's that config choice?

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juski:

Cardoe: should be on the first page of utils/setup > setup > appearance

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Cardoe:

juski: looks like it's a default in mythtv 0.20 fixes

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Cardoe:

but not 0.20

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Uncivil:

riddle:what do i need to do from this point to se if it will even work?

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juski:

that tv wonder 200 card looks to me like it's just a framegrabber, so v4l should support it, if not now then eventually

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Imaginativeone:

riddlebox: snow, but it looks like snowy video (which is GOOD)

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Imaginativeone:

do I just need to connect it to a cable wire?

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, hrmm YEAH!

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SavageOne:

it just seems to me like mythtv needs more focus on ease of implementation

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SavageOne:

know what I mean

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SavageOne:

you guys ever fuck w/ asterisk?

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SavageOne:

it's hard to work with

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riddlebox:

SavageOne, its not that hard

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SavageOne:

but someone put out this thing called trixbox, it was called asterisk at home

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SavageOne:

it's hard w/ certain hardware

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SavageOne:

I dunno man

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SavageOne:

I'm not THAT linux savy, but I'm a pretty decent computer guy and I'm pulling hair out w/ a recomended mobo and tv card

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SavageOne:

hehe

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Imaginativeone:

one last question: do I need to get a Wireless desktop card if I want to move it from the wired connection to the (wireless) router?

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juski:

yeah that tv wonder 200 is a framegrabber alright, but it may not be supported by v4l drivers yet

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Imaginativeone:

one other question (oops) does the capture card "know" when it is receiving video or not?

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Uncivil:

jsut a framegrabber? That means it needs alot more processor huh?

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juski:

yeah

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juski:

for them to call it a 'pvr' is a load of bollocks by the look of it

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, yes you need a wireless card, if you want wireless, and I dont know about the second

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Uncivil:

great

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juski:

Uncivil: I might be wrong – only going by photos of the board

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Imaginativeone:

riddlebox: once I connect it to cable tv, will I immediately be able to record video?

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Uncivil:

so what do i do now to even see if its gonna work?

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juski:

Uncivil: try loading up tvtime & see if you get a picture

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Uncivil:

whats tvtime?

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juski:

just read it's not compatible with windows MCE, which prolly means it's just a framegrabber

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juski:

tvtime is a v4l TV viewing app

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riddlebox:

Imaginativeone, if you have setup everything in mythtv-setup then I would assume yes

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juski:

right.. time to watch some mythtv

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Uncivil:

where do i get that?

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Imaginativeone:

riddlebox: thanks SO much, I owe ya

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riddlebox:

no prob

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, at least we got our nvidia card problems fixed!

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Uncivil:

ya

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Uncivil:

i suppose

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Uncivil:

hehe

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Uncivil:

im trying to find a use for this unix machine

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riddlebox:

there are tons of things you can do with it

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Uncivil:

so far its been good for increasing the temperature of my room

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Uncivil:

god place to put things on top of

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Uncivil:

it sticks out from under my desk enough to rest a drink on top

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, there alot of things to learn in linux? use it, you never know you may start to prefer it

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Uncivil:

well i have tried..but it seems everyrhint I want to do..or games I want to play

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Uncivil:

are windows based

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riddlebox:

you may be able to get them working in linux, some stuff does work

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Uncivil:

i need to find this tvtime

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riddlebox:

Uncivil, sudo apt-get install tvtime

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Uncivil:

couldnt find package

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riddlebox:

hrmm give me a minute

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Uncivil:

sourceforge being slow

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koffein:

Uncivil, you can install tvtime if you have testing in your sources.list

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koffein:

I think

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koffein:

or unstable

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koffein:

do you have a "stable" box?

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Uncivil:

sure

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Uncivil:

if not i put a package of sugar under the corner

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Uncivil:

;)

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Uncivil:

keep drink from spillin

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koffein:

this is why I used ""

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riddlebox:

koffein, it is edgy he is running

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Uncivil:

fresh install

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koffein:

the ubuntu thingy?

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Uncivil:

like umm 2hours ago

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riddlebox:

yeah

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koffein:

you kids and your new-fangled toys

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koffein:

when I grew up debian potatoe was the bee's knee

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koffein:

get off of my damn lawn

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koffein:

..etc

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riddlebox:

lol

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Cardoe:

Anyone have a DirecTV box connected to Myth?

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xris:

I used to do that with dishnet

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xris:

same principle

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Uncivil:

so no tvtime?

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koffein:

Uncivil, http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/x11/tvtime

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koffein:

google is your friend

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koffein:

seems you have to add this "universe" to your sources

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koffein:

look that up in the ubuntu docs

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Uncivil:

grrr im bout to look up throw box out window

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Uncivil:

stupid nvidia drivers

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koffein:

look up "send box overseas to koffein" :P

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koffein:

whats wrong with the drivers?

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Uncivil:

ill just look up "turn off unix and look at windows"

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koffein:

I thought the ati ones were worse

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EnterUserName:

hi all

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EnterUserName:

how do i change the time otu settings in mythweb

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EnterUserName:

: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /var/www/mythweb/includes/programs.php on line 420

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Uncivil:

it wont do graphical interface after reboot

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Uncivil:

mismatch somecrap

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EnterUserName:

im gettign that error message.. i have it running on a 266MHZ/30MB of ram system :p

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Uncivil:

well i appreciate all the help folks..im gonna take my worthless card and see what it does in a windows machine

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EnterUserName:

anyone?

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xris:

EnterUserName: /etc/php.ini

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xris:

and in your browser (since there's a timeout on each side)

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Joffray:

it shouldn't be taking 30 seconds to execute

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koffein:

what exactly is this problem that mythtv has with nvidia cards?

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Joffray:

what problem?

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xris:

koffein: nothing?

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Leebier:

anyone have an idea why any attempt to capture video (in myth or not) with my PVR-350 is causing a hard freeze (reboot necessary)?

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koffein:

Joffray, I thougt Uncivil had a problem with the drivers

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koffein:

that tvtime did not have

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Joffray:

Uncivil?

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koffein:

that guy in this channel here

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Uncivil:

sorry getting ready for a soccer game

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koffein:

anyway

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Joffray:

I haven't had any problems with nvidia cards

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koffein:

is there some list of graphic cards that DON'T work?

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koffein:

cause I'm planning to get a new one

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Joffray:

koffein: that's not dependant on mythtv, it's dependant upon linux

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Led-Hed:

does the "Unique Player Command" feature in MythVideo work with Xine? I cant seem to get it to work. I want to add --deinterlace to a few movies but once I add a paramater MythVideo refuses to play the movie.

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Uncivil:

me an riddle were havingthe same problem wit the drivers in ubuntu

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Joffray:

I'm using ubuntu on my backend (in the living room) that outputs to the TV in there

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Joffray:

and ubuntu on my computer here

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Joffray:

both ubuntu, both have nvidia cards

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koffein:

Joffray, same thing. If there is no linux driver, then it does not work

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koffein:

ok

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Joffray:

right, but that has nothing to do with Mythtv

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koffein:

it somehow appeared that way

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koffein:

anyway

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Uncivil:

i got it fixed tho

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koffein:

ok

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Uncivil:

turned the machine off

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koffein:

...

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Leebier:

can anyone help with freezes whenever i actually try to capture video? this is making the entire setup rather unusable

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EnterUserName:

hiall

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EnterUserName:

im getting this error message iun apacghe when doing program listings

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EnterUserName:

any idea

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EnterUserName:

Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /var/www/mythweb/includes/programs.php on line 421

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EnterUserName:

this is mythweb sorry :)

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Joffray:

so go into your php settings

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Joffray:

change the max execution time

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Joffray:

restart apache

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EnterUserName:

hmm i think i looked there.. which is better for speed 1.3 or 2.0? for apache

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EnterUserName:

nevermind if oudn it

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robbins876:

oudn?

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robbins876:

oh, nevermind

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EnterUserName:

hrm..

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EnterUserName:

i dont understand why its taknig longer then 120 seconds (

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EnterUserName:

:(

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Leebier:

can anyone even give me an idea of where to look to solve this problem? i'm not seeing anything obvious on gossamer threads. Any time i try to captuer video the system goes through a hard freeze. It worked when i went through the guide the first time. By the time i got myth set up, it now freezes. I've reverted to my old modprobe.conf and no help

[22:11:16]

Leebier:

i even went back to running X on the monitor (rather than the TV)

[22:11:31]

Leebier:

commented out all the lirc bits from my modprobe in case the order was the issue

[22:11:44]

Leebier:

undameonized mythbakend

[22:13:21]

Leebier:

and yet even a command line attempt to capture video (w/ no output) freezes the box

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RyeBrye:

Leebier – if you cat /dev/video0 does it scroll crap on your screen?

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Leebier:

no

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Leebier:

it freezes immediately upon hitting "enter"

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RyeBrye:

Oh

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RyeBrye:

that sucks

[22:15:35]

Leebier:

yah

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RyeBrye:

What card / drivers?

[22:15:41]

Leebier:

but that's why it's so bafflng

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Leebier:

PVR-350

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RyeBrye:

Hmmm

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RyeBrye:

as a superuser run: dmesg | grep ivtv and pastebin the output

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Leebier:

but i'll stress the sometimes problematic output of the 350 isn't the problem, in fact, the output has been working fine

[22:16:38]

Leebier:

will do, have to reboot first (as yet another attempted froze the system)

[22:16:42]

RyeBrye:

Obviously cat /dev/video0 crashing when you hit enter shows somethign is wrong

[22:16:44]

RyeBrye:

yeah, thats' fine

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RyeBrye:

I PROBABLY wont know enough to help you

[22:17:01]

RyeBrye:

but I might be able to give you a new set of eyes

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Leebier:

yah, thanks :)

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Leebier:

i'm not even sure where to go at this point since i've disabled any changes i made since the capture last worked

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RyeBrye:

hmm

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Leebier:

and its dying so early in the process, i don't even know what is left to change

[22:17:41]

RyeBrye:

true

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RyeBrye:

What distro are you running?

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Leebier:

barring removing ivtv and installing it again?

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Leebier:

FC5

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RyeBrye:

Reinstallign ivtv shoulnd't be too bad – did you install from the atrpms package?

[22:19:02]

Leebier:

yah

[22:19:41]

RyeBrye:

Upgrading your base to FC6 might be a good way to "start fresh" if you can't get it working

[22:19:58]

Leebier:

potentially

[22:20:06]

Leebier:

but i "started fresh" with FC5 again yesterday

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RyeBrye:

Oh

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eidolon:

question – is broadcast resolution (standard cable) converted on the mythbox to the equivelent of 320x200? or 640x480?

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Leebier:

http://pastebin.ca/240826

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Leebier:

hrmm, i wonder if maybe this ramdisk that is part of the jarod walkthrough could be it? i honestly didn't know much about it but followed his (usually good advice) and set it up

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Leebier:

i'm not sure how to walk it back to before though to see if that would be doing it

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RyeBrye:

Hmm

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RyeBrye:

I followed that FC walkthrough too... I see a few things in the dmesg output that raise flags

[22:21:50]

pepsiman:

eidolon: there is a setting for the recording resolution

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RyeBrye:

It is complaining that it can't find the firmware

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RyeBrye:

"ivtv0: did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware directory?"

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eidolon:

pepsiman: is there a reason you'd record at 320x200 over 640x480?

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pepsiman:

disk usage

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Leebier:

ah

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Leebier:

that would do it

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eidolon:

disks are dirt cheap :)

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pepsiman:

videos are enormous

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Leebier:

any ideas how that could happen, and more importantly, how to ameliorate this problem?

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RyeBrye:

I think that the ATRPMs also installs the firmware

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pepsiman:

eidolon: I use DVB, so I always get the full resolution

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eidolon:

DVB?

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RyeBrye:

maybe you left off an argument or something... let me check the walkthrough and see if I can find the set

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RyeBrye:

(but I might be wrong)

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GreyFoxx:

resolution doesn't really effect diskspace, bitrate does

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mirak:

hi

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eidolon:

GreyFoxx: do you have a cite for that?

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eidolon:

i'm trying to argue someone who is very facts driven that recording his cable shows at 320x200 is idiotic :)

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pepsiman:

eidolon: digital tv

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EnterUserName:

hi does anyone know if lighttpd will work with mythweb?

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Leebier:

thx rye, i'm seeing some posts out there on this problem so i'm looking through those as well

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EnterUserName:

im trying to find a quicker/less cpu instensive web server as im having problems with apache

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eidolon:

pepsiman: ah.

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GreyFoxx:

eidolon: No, I do not

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RyeBrye:

try to run: yum -y install ivtv-firmware ivtv-firmware-audio

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GreyFoxx:

Lowering the resolution to a point is similar to raising the bitrate

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mirak:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/10946 is there a way to get this modification under the form of a patch file ?

[22:26:34]

GreyFoxx:

Analog television (and standard dev dvb) is broadcast as 544x480, atleast in north america

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RyeBrye:

Leebier: good luck... if yum -y install ivtv-firmware ivtv-firmware-audio doesn't work... hopefully someone else has a solution... I've got to go play with some meat I have on the grill

[22:27:47]

Leebier:

thanks rye, you at least helped me locate WHERE the problem is

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eidolon:

GreyFoxx: *nod* alright.

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mirak:

any devs around ?

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Leebier:

enjoy your meat

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eidolon:

but you're still losing image quality with going with a 320x200 image.

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GreyFoxx:

eidolon: Well it depends on your display medium size and how much you have to scale the video for display

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pepsiman:

mirak: scroll to the bottom "Unified Diff"

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eidolon:

*nod*

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GreyFoxx:

If you are watching on something the size of a watch it would look fine

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eidolon:

heh

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GreyFoxx:

Line an ipod screen

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GreyFoxx:

s/Line/Like

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mirak:

pepsiman: ah ! thanks ! lol, it was there

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eidolon:

hm, looking at my machine, seems I'm doing about 2gig an hour right now for mpg filesizes.

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GreyFoxx:

But if you are watching on a Standard def TV, then 544x480/640x480/720x480 avoids scaling artifacts

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GreyFoxx:

eidolon: That's about average

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eidolon:

*nod*

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GreyFoxx:

I average 2.3–2.4G per hour

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eidolon:

okee.

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eidolon:

(this is a hauppage 150, being displayed on a 480i hdtv. no hdtv feed atm :(

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GreyFoxx:

the bitrate determines how many data samples per second aretaken, and therefore howmuch resulting data there is

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GreyFoxx:

regardless of the resolution

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GreyFoxx:

A 320x200 resolution recording with a 2mbit bitrate is the same amount of data as 640x480 at 2mbit

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GreyFoxx:

2mbit is 2mbit :)

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eidolon:

heh.

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Leebier:

is there an ivtv room?

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juski:

#ivtv last time I looked

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juski:

anyway, time for bed for me

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juski:

g'night

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jams:

#ivtv-dev

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Con-fuze-ed:

someone please help me... I am going insane... I moved from a single box to a frontend/backend config.... the new backend moved from 192.168.15.100 to .50 (frontend is still at .100) but when I try to play a previously recorded video, it gives "Failed to open remote file (myth://192.168.15.100:6543/....mpg).

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riddlebox:

arghhh I thought I had my nvidia problems fixed but the system just locked up!

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psofa:

anyone using an nvidia 7100 graphics card?Just asking before buying it

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Cardoe:

Con-fuze-ed: update all your config places to .50

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Con-fuze-ed:

I did that

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Leebier:

thanks jams

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Con-fuze-ed:

Is the ip of the backend that recorded a show stored in the database.... I noticed that the hostname is, perhaps it's resolving that hostname even though it doesnt exist?

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riddlebox:

juski, you around?

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scopeuk:

think juski jsut went to bed

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Con-fuze-ed:

the wrong ip shows up all over in the tvchains table? anyone know what that table holds?

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GreyFoxx:

livetv history

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Con-fuze-ed:

a lot of tables have a hostname field, that contains mythtv (which was previous machine's hostname) but it's not being resolved anymore, so I don't know where it gets the .100 address

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Cardoe:

Con-fuze-ed: probably be easier to call the original machine .100 still

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Cardoe:

and make the new machine a diff IP

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PointyPumper:

uhm

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PointyPumper:

i got 3 jobs

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PointyPumper:

queued

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PointyPumper:

and no one is processing

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PointyPumper:

what can be happening?

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Disconnect_:

any idea why F7 isn't bringing up my signal strength when I am in live tv? trying to tweak the antenna aiming before the simpsons/etc tonight and f7 has no effect. (running 0.20-fixes)

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hjohnson:

hmm.. anyone know if there has been a fix for the recent version of PVR-500 yet?

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Disconnect_:

using pchdtv-3000

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riddlebox:

whoah I think

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riddlebox:

I found a thread that may have solved my driver issue!

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Disconnect_:

no such luck here. :(

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Leebier:

anyone have any experience with ivtv failing to load firmware for the pvr350? i've found ppl all over google who've had the issue but their resolutions don't seem applicable

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Leebier:

if i were to <shudder> reformat once again, is there any particular reason i should be concerned about setting up myth on FC6 (presumably reducing the amount of time needed to run yum update),?

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kennyt:

will a schedule recording override LiveTV?

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kennyt:

scheduled, even

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xris:

kennyt: it'll prompt, and if gets no reply, it'll record

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kennyt:

xris: ah, great

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xris:

shouldn't leave livetv running, though.

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xris:

eats unnecessary cpu/electricity

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kennyt:

yeah, it's a huge disk hog, too, when it's running for, say, a day with the TV off

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kennyt:

if i can get an IR blaster going to turn off the TV, then it'll be easier for others to stop LiveTV (as presently they'd have to hit 'power' on the remote and press 'power' on the TV)

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xris:

kennyt: mythtv is designed to fill your drive, though.

[23:52:25]

xris:

can't comment on the other. that's just people not liking to be lazy.

[23:52:45]

xris:

personally, I'd just exit livetv before turning off the tv.

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riddlebox:

anyone running a nvidia geforce 5200 card

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xris:

I am

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xris:

I think

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xris:

heh

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Joffray:

ditto

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Joffray:

or maybe it's a 5600

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Joffray:

it has a 5 in it ;)

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riddlebox:

do you get lock ups on your system?

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Joffray:

never

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xris:

nope

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Joffray:

I used to a long time ago

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Joffray:

but then the newer drivers came out

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xris:

my mythbox is probably my most stable machine

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riddlebox:

I never did either, but if you do add Option "ShadowFB" in the device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf

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Joffray:

xris: What do you think about only displaying 1 row on mythweb searches if a show occurs multiple times in a day

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xris:

Joffray: sort by title

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riddlebox:

what can I do about mythweb saying data directory is not writable by www-data please check permissions?

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