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aboutblank:

xvid!

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aboutblank:

i do believe xvid is faster at encoding.

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ciphernemo:

Is someone willing to help walk me through configuring MythTV to work with a MySQL database? The last thing I did was do a make install on both lame and mythtv, as well as install MySQL 5 and change the mysql root password. The online guides are either incomplete when it comes to MySQL and MythTV (ie: assume I'm so mysql expert), or don't apply to my distro (ubuntu dapper).

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aboutblank:

ciphernemo, i _think_ you just have to set a mysql root password, and the mythtv installer will create the DB

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ciphernemo:

aboutblank: every guide I've seen talks about doing a #mysql -u root [-p] < mc.sql

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ciphernemo:

aboutblank: and I can't find an mc.sql file anywhere

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ciphernemo:

aboutblank: I do remember that mythtv has a dbfillsomething command that it runs itself... so can I skip worrying about this mc.sql script?

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aboutblank:

ciphernemo, the dapper guide does not mention this.

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aboutblank:

ciphernemo, actually.. according to the dapper guide, you should keep the root mysql password null

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ciphernemo:

aboutblank: I've already changed it

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ciphernemo:

aboutblank: this was according to mythtv's official docs

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aboutblank:

argh, i don't know

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xris:

ciphernemo: mc.sql creates the db and assigns the permissions.

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xris:

once you do that, the backend can do the rest

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aboutblank:

he doesn't know where to find mc.sql

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aboutblank:

and neither do it

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aboutblank:

i***

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xris:

updatedb && locate mc.sql

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ciphernemo:

actually... it was according to fedore mythology, not official docs, got it confused

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xris:

or dpkg --help

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ciphernemo:

I've searched and I have no mc.sql

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aboutblank:

is it in the package?

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xris:

mine's in: /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.21/database/mc.sql

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xris:

for fedora

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xris:

in the source, it's at mythtv/database/mc.sql

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ciphernemo:

xris: that's what fedora mythology guide told me to find... but in dapper I dob't have that

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xris:

ciphernemo: means whoever made the packages f'd up and forgot to include the file

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xris:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythtv/database/mc.sql

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xris:

that one will work just fine even for non-svn

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aboutblank:

i'm about to scream, LVM is the biggest pita i've ever seen. does anyone have it working?

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ciphernemo:

actually, I just found mc.sql.....

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: Yep... for over a year now.

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ciphernemo:

it looks like the .config and make installed mythtv in the current folder instead of where it should be

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ciphernemo:

arrrg

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: 4x200GB = 760GB formatted.

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xris:

ciphernemo: you're compiling AND using packages?

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: i'm trying to make an XFS LV... so i pvcreate /dev/hda3 and /dev/hdb1. then i vgcreate volume /dev/hda3 /dev/hb1

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aboutblank:

follow me so far?

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ciphernemo:

xris: I've installed mysql 5 from a package.... I'm installing mythtv 0.20 from source

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ciphernemo:

and lame from source

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xris:

ciphernemo: gotcha.

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xris:

`make` doesn't actually install...

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ciphernemo:

make install does

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: Kinda... I had to follow 'howto' docs to do it myself... So you've got two Logical Volumes, hda3 and hdb1...

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xris:

and it should put it into /usr/local/*

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A, but when i try to do the vgcreate, it says "no physical volume read from /dev/hda3 /dev/hda3 not identified as an existing physical volume unable to add physical volume"

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: (er, make that physical volumes)

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ciphernemo:

xris: it put it into the current folder (i was using /usr/packages, a folder I added)

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xris:

huh?

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: i don't understand what you mean.

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xris:

don't break lfs.. let it install where it wants to or you'll have a huge pain compiling plugins, etc.

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ciphernemo:

xris: it put it into /usr/packages/mythtv-0.20

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: Sorry, I'm thinking out-loud. Looking at my config atm...

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ciphernemo:

xris: I downloaded the tarball in to /usr/packages for myself... and ran the make from there. If I let it do its own thing (I didn't specify where it should go), it should install itself into a predefined directory upon #make install ... correct?

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xris:

ciphernemo: gotcha.. (I usually put source into /usr/src, but that's just me)...

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ciphernemo:

provided I did a ./configure and make

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xris:

yeah, if you `./configure && make && make install` it should go into /usr/local/*

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ciphernemo:

xris: I'm a linux noob, so I put downloaded stuff where I can remember :)

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xris:

though you should ./configure with the appropriate options.

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: Ok, I've got 4 physical volumes — /dev/hde1 , hdf1, hdg1, hdh1. And one Logical volume.

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ciphernemo:

here's official MythTV docs: If you are using the tarball, then unpack it: $ tar -xjf mythtv-0.20.tar.bz2 ; $ cd mythtv-0.20 ; $ ./configure

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ciphernemo:

are those instructions wrong?

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: What does /usr/sbin/pvdisplay show you?

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ciphernemo:

then: $ qmake mythtv.pro

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ciphernemo:

$ make

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ciphernemo:

and finally #make install

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xris:

ciphernemo: old docs

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: whoa.. where did you get four physical volumes from? i've got 2 HDDs in there.. formatted as /hda1 is ext3, hda2 is extended, hda5 is swap

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xris:

odd that no one updated them

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ciphernemo:

xris: argggggggg

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ciphernemo:

"Robert Kulagowski, mailto:rkulagow@rocketmail.com

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ciphernemo:

2006-09–22, v0.20.03"

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ciphernemo:

seem new to me... but if that's wrong, then Rob didn't update everything on 9–22

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xris:

yeah, that's just a last-edit.

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ciphernemo:

this is supposed to be official stuff linked on the official mythtv.org page :(

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: -not you, I've got 4 physical volumes. Are hda3 and hdb1 blank?

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: uh... pvdisplay shows on PV. name = /dev/evms/hda3, size: 143GB

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** ciphernemo yells at mythtv.org devs :P **

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ciphernemo:

hehe

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: hdb1 and hda3 are formatted to XFS

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aboutblank:

newly

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sunnyhours4130:

Anyone know any tips for getting the 1152x864 resolution to work with tv out with the nvidia drivers and x11? the desktop doesn't fit on my monitor when i have tv enabled.... need to set down to 1024x764

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ciphernemo:

xris: so, can you help me correct this?

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: And nothing for hdb1 from pvdisplay?

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: that's correct

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: Sounds like you need to create the LVM Physical volume for /dev/hdb1 ... Then you'll be able to create the LVM Virtual volume of both drives.

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xris:

ciphernemo: like I said.. ./configure with whatever options you want

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sunnyhours4130:

... not sure if i'm explaining that right. when I'm in 1152x864 I can scroll the mouse off the side of my monitor and the whole display shifts over

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xris:

then make, then `make install`

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: odd though, because vgcreate complains about hda3 being the problem.

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ciphernemo:

xris: I'm clueless about what I should do with that, what options to set, or even how to

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xris:

./configure --help

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: how would i go about making an LVM PV for hdb1?

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ciphernemo:

thank you captain obvious :P

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: I'm looking for a howto now... one sec...

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: Actually it's simple... pvcreate /dev/hdb1

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Tuju:

hi

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Tuju:

what I'm supposed to put into THEME settings ?

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Tuju:

MM_THEME_URL="auto"

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Tuju:

MM_THEME_NAME="Iulius.sfs"

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Tuju:

should these work with ramfs?

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: done. and it does show up in pvdisplay. but i still can't do "vgcreate my_volume /dev/hda3 /dev/hdb1"

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: http://ds9a.nl/lvm-howto/HOWTO//cvs/lvm-howto . . . 3.html#ss3.1

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: What's the error you're getting?

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xris:

ciphernemo: well, "what you want" depends entirely on what you want to plug mythtv into (firewire, dvb, etc).. most of those options are pretty well documented.

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xris:

also, you should really check out mythtv from the 20-fixes branch in svn instead of using the tarball. lots of fixes have gone in since the tarball was released.

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: well.. pvdisplay uses the path /dev/evms/hda3. i tried this in vgcreate and it worked.

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: Strange...

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: let me try fdisking

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ciphernemo:

xris: all I'm going to use mythtv for is recording and watching TV with snap2it schedule updates. All I'm having problems with right now is building mythtv and configuring it with mysql

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ciphernemo:

xris: skip the fixes stuff, I'll worry about that later. I'm tired of getting suggestions unrelated to my problem, no offense. Any way to help me with the ./config and such needed to build mythtv in default directories?

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jams:

ciphernemo- which part of configure && make && make install is breaking ?

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frankrizzo:

hi, I am having a lot of trouble finding a usb IR receiver to buy, the ones on lirc.org appear to cost around 150 US which doesnt make much sense to me

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frankrizzo:

can anyone point me in the right direction?

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jams:

frankrizzo- for usb I suggest the streamzap remote. Its a great remote and comes with a usb reciever

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J-e-f-f-A:

frankrizzo: If you're in the US, check ebay for a Microsoft MCE remote & receiver — should be about $40usd

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jams:

it's $30

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ciphernemo:

jams: the #./config and make without any options seems to be setting-up mythtv to be installed in the current directory instead of /usr/local

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: How's it going?

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ciphernemo:

jams: ...when I finally do a make install

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frankrizzo:

jams, and thats compatable with lirc?

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jams:

frankrizzo- yep

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: well, vgdisplay shows a volume of the appropriate type, so i'm going to proceed and see what happens

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frankrizzo:

excellent, thanks

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sunnyhours4130:

jams that thingie work with TVs too? or will I need multiple remotes?

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jams:

it's a non programmable remote, so its cant control your tv power or anything like that.

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J-e-f-f-A:

aboutblank: kewl. You just have to do the 'lvcreate' and 'mke2fs' now then... (see the link I sent you above)

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sunnyhours4130:

awww

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frankrizzo:

oh

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frankrizzo:

so that kind of limits its ability

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sunnyhours4130:

i guess I could duct tape both remotes to a piece of wood and have a single unit =P

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frankrizzo:

could I just use a radio shack remote or something with that IR receiver though?

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sunnyhours4130:

yeah, good question

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J-e-f-f-A:

sunnyhours4130: Just double-stick tape them back-to-back... ;-)

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sunnyhours4130:

haha

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jams:

it's no different then any other consumer electronic remote. If you want to consolidate remote buy a learning remote and start teaching

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sunnyhours4130:

just can't put it down on anything then =P

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koen:

just fell in

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koen:

one for all remote

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frankrizzo:

ok, any other IR receivers cheaper than 40 bucks then?

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koen:

ask friend google

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jams:

frankrizzo- yes the streamzap receiver works with every remote I have tried

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J-e-f-f-A:

frankrizzo: You could make your own... With an old VCR ir receiver and about $10 in parts from Radio shack.

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sunnyhours4130:

oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh snoogens!!!!

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sunnyhours4130:

i have several VCRs i can rip apart

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sunnyhours4130:

i have a project for tomorrow

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ciphernemo:

jams: here's my problems so far: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3wkJdA42.html

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jams:

wouldn't be usb though.

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J-e-f-f-A:

sunnyhours4130: check out lirc.org in the 'homebrew serial receivers' section... ;-)

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: i think i have it! i have to reboot and check

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sunnyhours4130:

yeah, i read that and started looking on ebay/froogle for known receivers that work. didn't find anything

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sunnyhours4130:

no biggie. serial is cool.

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J-e-f-f-A:

sunnyhours4130: One thing — that's using a serial port... You do have one, ritht?

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sunnyhours4130:

think so...... let me check again

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J-e-f-f-A:

s/ritht/right/ ;-) (typnig too fast...)

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jams:

ciphernemo- line 75 is the problem. can't find your QT libs

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koen:

@ciphernemo: isntall ffmmpeg dev libs or something

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sunnyhours4130:

yeah, i think thats a serial port down there

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koen:

f$ck reak b4 if write

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jams:

ciphernemo- make sure the qt lib is installed and you might need to set your QTDIR to wherever you have QT installed

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ciphernemo:

ciphernemo@tivoid:/usr/packages/mythtv-0.20$ echo $QTDIR

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ciphernemo:

/usr/lib/qt3

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ciphernemo:

ciphernemo@tivoid:/usr/lib$ cd qt3

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ciphernemo:

ciphernemo@tivoid:/usr/lib/qt3$ ls

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ciphernemo:

plugins

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ciphernemo:

is that install of qt3 messed?

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jams:

do you have a libqt-mt.so in /usr/lib/qt3 ?

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koen:

http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2002-July/000044.html

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koen:

The problem was that the libqt-mt.so.3 file had

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koen:

the tailing 3 so I symlinked it with libqt-mt.so

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nordle:

hi, the more I do, the more of a mess I make :) got a nova-t, uses dvb, always has done for 2 years. Today I installed latest cvs of v4l because noticed some bug fixes and also just for the hell of it. Now tv wont work as /dev/dvb/frontend0 etc is missing. Its loaded all the v4l stuff, but dmesg does say cx2388x cx88-mpeg Driver Manager version 0.0.6 loaded, and I vaguely remember an option in myth to use mpeg device under v4l. So, can the novat

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ciphernemo:

I have qt3-dev-tools .... 3:3.3.6-lubuntu6

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ciphernemo:

jams: the only thing in qt3 dir is a plugins dir

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sunnyhours4130:

so can i use one of the $10 all for one remotes with the streamzap usb receiver?

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jams:

sunnyhours4130- yes

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sunnyhours4130:

sweet

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koen:

at sunnhours : me thinks yes 2

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sunnyhours4130:

does it have to say learning? is that something special

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sunnyhours4130:

?

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aboutblank:

how do i check the filesystem of an LV like /dev/my_volume/Huge?

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koen:

you can do that ,but i wwould go the irw route

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roger55:

nordle, need to modprobe cx88-dvb? or whatever the frontendmodule is?

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HAIDEN:

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HAIDEN:

i know stb was part of another company, but i forget which... does anyone know?

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koen:

teach lirc the codes

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sunnyhours4130:

Haiden did you put it in your computer?

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HAIDEN:

sunnyhours4130, yes but unfortunatly im on a windows box right now and cant do any lspci

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sunnyhours4130:

oh, ha

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koen:

stb sounds like dish network stuff

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sunnyhours4130:

guess that rules out dmesg too

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jams:

ciphernemo- I dont' know squat about ubunta and what package holds libqt-mt.so . But that is the file that's missing right now

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sunnyhours4130:

the metal case on the coax receiver doesn't really have much to do with the card itself

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koen:

jams: check if the lib-mt-so exists

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ts0:

well, looks like i'm shit out of luck with myth

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sunnyhours4130:

no, you're never out of luck!

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ts0:

kernel+ivtv+amd64 brokenness :(

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jams:

koen: why my system works just fine

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HAIDEN:

sunnyhours4130, yes, but i thought maybe it would give me an idea of what chipset it uses

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koen:

if not link whatever lib-mt-.so.* to is

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ts0:

http://ivtvdriver.org/pipermail/ivtv-users/20 . . . /004343.html

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ts0:

^- out of luck

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sunnyhours4130:

you just have limited performance

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ts0:

in this case, performance is limited to 0

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sunnyhours4130:

not to me anyhoo. sorry bub

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sunnyhours4130:

haha

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ts0:

:)

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nordle:

roger55: DVB: registering frontend 0 (Conexant CX22702 DVB-T) Thanks! I had it down that dvb=digital and v4l=analog, but when I read the dvb modules within the v4l section of the kernel config, it got me confused! This card cannot use v4l right? ie /dev/video0 is a no no? Just curious to know really all the options availble.

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ciphernemo:

ts0: performance would be limited to 32-bit I take it, then?

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sunnyhours4130:

bah 64 bit is a bunch of hooey

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ciphernemo:

64-bit is just more bandwidth... doesn't equate to performance per say

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koen:

ts0: via chipset, shuffle cards?

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ts0:

ciphernemo: i'm working on getting an i686 kernel together now

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ts0:

ts0: yeah, it's an MSI board, VIA chipset, PVR-150s

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HAIDEN:

sunnyhours4130, looks like stb is out of business

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ts0:

s/ts0/koen

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ciphernemo:

ts0: can't you use a regular amd kernel instead?

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ts0:

that's ok, i'll try with the i686 kernel and see if I can get somewhere useful

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ts0:

ciphernemo: that would be different than i686 how?

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HAIDEN:

sunnyhours4130, its basically like a happauge pvr 150 as far as inputs

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sunnyhours4130:

haiden whatcha mean? just has the same ones inputs at the pvr 150? or its an identical card?

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aboutblank:

how do i determine the filesystem of a volume?

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sunnyhours4130:

dmesg might show it

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HAIDEN:

sunnyhours4130, same inputs... i dont think its identical

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roger55:

nordle, I don't understand, but glad it worked. :)

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sunnyhours4130:

oh, the inputs are pretty standard from one brand to another i think

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ts0:

aboutblank: is the volume mounted?

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ciphernemo:

ts0: i686 would be Intel... amd can emulate x86 hardware, but why when you have amd acceleration in kernels?

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sunnyhours4130:

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roger55:

nordle, the video0 might be for some other input orsomething

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aboutblank:

sunnyhours4130, thanks.. dmesg shows XFS :)

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ts0:

ciphernemo: because i'm trying to go down to least common denominator

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ciphernemo:

ts0: for your distro, don't you have a 32-bit amd kernel?

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nordle:

roger55: /dev/video0 is, as I understand it, the default device for v4l whereas dvb stuff all go in /dev/dvb

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ts0:

ciphernemo: i'm on gentoo

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ts0:

ciphernemo: so yes, I do

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nordle:

roger55: but your right, its just good its working again, many thanks!

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koen:

any dutch users here using dvb-c?

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roger55:

nordle, I guess so, the /dev/video0 might be for something like svideo-in

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ciphernemo:

ts0: if you're on gentoo... have you not built your kernel specifically for your PC?

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ts0:

ciphernemo: yes, I have

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ts0:

ciphernemo: you're misunderstanding, there is brokenness with ivtv and the kernel version i'm running on amd64

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ts0:

ciphernemo: firmware problems with the cards arise after you've tried to look at the video once

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HAIDEN:

sunnyhours4130, i found this site that has winxp drivers for the card... when i did the autodetect with this program, the chipset shows as BT878.... does that have an onboard encoder?

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ciphernemo:

ts0: what version of ivtv?

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ts0:

ciphernemo: i686 is reported working with the same hardware

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ts0:

ciphernemo: 0.7.x

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sunnyhours4130:

haiden not sure, i'll check google though =)

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ciphernemo:

ts0: ahhh... have you tried a 0.4.4 to 0.4.7 version with your kernel?

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ts0:

i was under the impression 0.4 was not supported with 2.6.17+

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ts0:

incorrect?

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ciphernemo:

I'm running 2.6.15 and it works fine... but that might be true

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ts0:

ciphernemo: 2.6.16 and below

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ts0:

.16

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ts0:

.15, even

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ts0:

ivtv stable version 0.4.7 released (ChangeLog). This release is for the 2.6.15 and older kernels ONLY.

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ciphernemo:

ts0: so why would you change your kernel to i686... you could back peddle the ivtv and kernel version without going to i686?

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ts0:

ciphernemo: because it's reported that 0.7/i686 works on amd64 with the pvr150

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ts0:

and if I can try it and get it to work, then I can try amd afterwards

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ciphernemo:

ts0: but I'm wondering what an i686 kernel would do on an amd64 arch?

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ciphernemo:

ts0: that sounds scary to me

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HAIDEN:

sunnyhours4130, weird... looks like its working with their tv viewing program... except its a little distorted

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ts0:

ciphernemo: it's not any different fundamentally

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sunnyhours4130:

whose program?

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sunnyhours4130:

check out this site for a linux drive http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/bttv.html

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HAIDEN:

sunnyhours4130, STB

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sunnyhours4130:

haven't found many specs

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sunnyhours4130:

ohhh....

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sunnyhours4130:

i don't know who that is. don't think that they're important

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ciphernemo:

ts0: so you'll loose your 1337ness by switching from a custom build kernel to a binary one?

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ts0:

ciphernemo: i'm still custom building, just building an i686

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koen:

muhahahahah

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koen:

used to run gentoo too

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ciphernemo:

ts0: are you building it on a different pc?

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koen:

b4 i got a job

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ts0:

ciphernemo: no

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ts0:

i'm just used to gentoo

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HAIDEN:

sunnyhours4130, haha no they probably arent

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HAIDEN:

sunnyhours4130, im watching the mets game though

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ts0:

i've used it on and off for several years, I just don't like apt

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sunnyhours4130:

oh it?

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sunnyhours4130:

you're watching the game on that card?

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sunnyhours4130:

or you're watching the game so you can't work with the card?

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aboutblank:

J-e-f-f-A: i'd like to thank you for your help!

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nordle:

"you have a title on your dvd in a format that myth doesnt understand. Either that, or you haven't installed dvdinput table. You probably want to report this to a mailing list or something" Thats the msg I got starting the backend with Capote DVD in the drive. Should I report it or...?

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sunnyhours4130:

haiden check out http://www.dynalink.co.nz/files/pdfs/bt878_sp . . . 8%20specs%22 for specs

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HAIDEN:

sunnyhours4130, your the man

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HAIDEN:

thanks

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sunnyhours4130:

heh np

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sunnyhours4130:

i ripped open a VCR for the IR receiver..... its the 3 pin LED looking thing on the front panel, right?

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sunnyhours4130:

screw it i'm cutting it out anyway

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ciphernemo:

jams: I think I got past part of the qt3 problem... but still have errors: http://rafb.net/paste/results/46ygM040.html

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HAIDEN:

hah

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sunnyhours4130:

i'm pumped i was going to spend like 30 bucks on a receiver. forgot that i could just take one from my vcr that i don't use

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koen:

ciphereme, make clean

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ciphernemo:

koen: do a # make clean ?

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koen:

yup

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ciphernemo:

will try

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koen:

cipernemo: im in belgium, 3.30 am & drunk :)

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ciphernemo:

koen: sweet, it looks like the that worked... just #make install now?

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ciphernemo:

koen: but not too drunk to type :)

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koen:

hehe not yet

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koen:

just fired up a dutchy

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koen:

make install would do the trick i guess

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koen:

no

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koen:

sorry

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koen:

make clean && make

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ciphernemo:

well... already doing a make install, lol... and it looks like it's taking

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koen:

ur located where?

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ciphernemo:

us

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ciphernemo:

9:30pm here

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koen:

nice, only channel numbers overthere,right?

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ciphernemo:

koen: not sure what you meant by that

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koen:

in europe we have freq. for every channel different in nearly every town

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ciphernemo:

koen: ah, that sucks!

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ciphernemo:

koen: yes, only channel numbers here

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ciphernemo:

koen: different numbers in different areas... but no frequency anything

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koen:

you have a coax feed?

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ciphernemo:

koen: yes. it's aka: standard cable

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koen:

i'm thinking about switching to dvb-c

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ciphernemo:

koen: they have "digital cable" too, but they charge you more.. pppffft

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koen:

here too

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koen:

but like $5 a month for standerd channels

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ciphernemo:

I'm sorry, but hdtv should be the same price as regular tv... hdtv is that 16:9 aspect ratio thing

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koen:

but the digital is encrypted with god knows what algorithm

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ciphernemo:

koen: we get a discount because we're in a home-owners association, so we pay like $12? a month for standard cable + a few additional stations

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koen:

is it working yet?

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ciphernemo:

$12 US that is

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ciphernemo:

still doing an install

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koen:

prob. a make and then install i guess

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ciphernemo:

probably... I can ctrl-c it, correct? to no ill effects?

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bakkkk:

Hey Guys, I setup two monitors without using twinview...So i have screen 0 and screen 1 but I cant get anything to launch on screen 1...what should my display variable be, I tried export DISPLAY=:1; and it says cannot open display and when i run xhost + it says unable to open display :1. any ideas?

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koen:

just let it run

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ciphernemo:

koen: k

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ciphernemo:

bakkkk: can't that be controlled by your nvidia/ati drivers?

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jengo:

I have been trying for 4 days now to get MythTV to see my capture card ... no matter what options I pick, it still says can not open card ... but, tvtime finds it without any settings ... anyone have some ideas on what could be wrong ... its really driving me crazy lol

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koen:

bakkk: nvidia? use the xinerame setting somwere in the config

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bakkkk:

but i want the screens to be seperate

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bakkkk:

i dont want to use xinerame

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koen:

jengo: what kind of card do u have

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jengo:

Its a avermedia ... not 100% sure of the model number, but in lspci its listed as a bt787

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ciphernemo:

jengo: what card type are you selecting when you run mythsetup?

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jengo:

Well, I have tried them all actually

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ciphernemo:

jengo: have you troubleshot with ivtv too? are you using ivtv?

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jengo:

Hmm, no ... should I give that a shot ?

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ciphernemo:

jengo: make sure you try ivtv for your linux kernel version and troubleshoot...

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koen:

bt878 sounds like bttv

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sunnyhours4130:

bakkkk what are you doing to use the tv out? you fiddling with xorg.conf?

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koen:

bakkk: i guess its a v4l card you have to choose

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jengo:

On the probed info it says .... BT878 video (AVerMedia TVPhone [bttv]

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ciphernemo:

jengo: mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test.mpg

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koen:

bakkk: running the backand as a normal user?

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ciphernemo:

jengo: mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test.mpg first

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koen:

bakkk: try running as root

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ciphernemo:

oops, my copy paste is hosed...

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jengo:

don't have mplayer installed ... I will have to download it

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ciphernemo:

jengo: cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test.mpg

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ciphernemo:

first

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jengo:

ok

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ciphernemo:

then play it back with any player that supports mpeg2

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ciphernemo:

do this after ivtv is installed and configured

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koen:

cat doesnt work

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koen:

its an bttv card

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koen:

not ivtv

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ciphernemo:

ahhh, crud

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koen:

no mpg2

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ciphernemo:

ouch

[01:43:10]

ciphernemo:

fram capture?

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ciphernemo:

frame*

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koen:

yup, old styleeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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ciphernemo:

jengo: you should be able to work mythtv with that card you have.. .but I'd recommend upgrading it :)

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jengo:

doh ok ... just was about to try that hehe

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jengo:

Ya, I wanna get a better card. Just money is tight presently

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ciphernemo:

dang this make install is taking forever... sigh... all this to run 0.20 instead of 0.18

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sunnyhours4130:

what was wrong with .18 for ya? thats what i run

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koen:

ubuntu has .020 in the repo now, in multiverse

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jengo:

Do you have some suggestions on which settings I might be able to use for this ?

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orogor:

crap i found 2 card i like to buy , not enought free pci slot on my putter

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ciphernemo:

0.18 was buggy on my system

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sunnyhours4130:

oh gotcha

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ciphernemo:

koen: I have multiverse set on my sources, but I couldn't find it... hmmm.. oh well, it will be built anyway soon

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jengo:

would the card type be analog v4l ?

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koen:

ciphernemo: i have an dapper build running fronted from repos

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koen:

jengo: yes

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jengo:

Hmmm ok

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ciphernemo:

koen: good to know its there

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koen:

no plugings though yet

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ciphernemo:

koen: ahhhh

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ciphernemo:

koen: I assume you mean plugins

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koen:

yep, smoked some hasish, legal over here , typing baddd

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ciphernemo:

koen: that plus drunk? lol... bad to mix

[01:49:27]

koen:

drunk + stonend = strunk?

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ciphernemo:

= half way to the morgue

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koen:

yep, i work in a hostipal actually

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ciphernemo:

drunk + stoned + uppers = morgue :)

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koen:

haha, OT?

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ciphernemo:

"OT"?

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koen:

off topic?

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ciphernemo:

ah, yeah... but you're stoned... so this convo never happened :)

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ciphernemo:

it's all in your head

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koen:

who are you? why am i talking to you? ;)

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ciphernemo:

hehe

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koen:

hows the make install going>

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koen:

?

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ciphernemo:

still.... going

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koen:

how many ghz is yours? ;)

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ciphernemo:

oced to 3.2 GHz

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koen:

the build of a complete mythtv should take about 20 mins i guess

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ciphernemo:

wow, just finished

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ciphernemo:

so now make clean again then make?

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koen:

wow 20 min. have past allraedy?

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koen:

nope,

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ciphernemo:

should it be installe correctly?

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koen:

check if something is installed in /usr/local/ of /urs/local/bin

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ciphernemo:

I got lots of "has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor" messages... I'll check

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koen:

do a which mythfrontend

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ciphernemo:

koen: #which mythfrontend yields nothing

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ciphernemo:

nothing in /usr/local/bin

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ciphernemo:

except lame

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ciphernemo:

nothing in /usr/local for mythtv except under share... some mythtv files

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koen:

hmmmm, better do a : make clean && ./configure --prefix=/usr/ && qmake mythtv.pro && make && sudo make install

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ciphernemo:

"&&" seperates commands?

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koen:

yup

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ciphernemo:

k, I'll do those in that order

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ciphernemo:

ok, on make now, and I'll be waiting

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jengo:

ok ... I know this is a hard question to answer ... but, if you could have any capture card, which would you get ... (Looks like I am gonna need a better one, I give up on this budget one)

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koen:

standard cable , analogue?

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ciphernemo:

jengo: I use a PVR-500, but any Hauppauge PVR-150 is trouble-free

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koen:

a 350

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jengo:

ok cool

[01:59:33]

koen:

or a 150

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ciphernemo:

jengo: Those new MPEG4 cards looks sweet

[01:59:38]

jengo:

well, thanks for the help guys :P

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jengo:

are the mpeg4 cards out ?

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ciphernemo:

koen is the man :)

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jengo:

... and do they work with linux lol

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koen:

hahah, have a 350 & a 150

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ciphernemo:

jengo: not sure how compatible they are... but mpeg4 lets you record hdtv... or rather higher res tv

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jengo:

eh ... gonna be quite a while before I can afford an HDTV ... they are still over $1000 ... not worried about record HT

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ciphernemo:

I got a PVR-500 because I wanted 2 tuners and didn't want to install two PVR-150 or PVR-350s... I really like Hauppauge

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koen:

i once had a sales meeting with a guy from hauppauge

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jengo:

Funny thing is, I have 2 DVRs from the cable company in my house ... so I can record 2+ shows at once. Disadvantage is, I can't really keep that stuff or watch it during flights and what not on my mac

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koen:

i quote: we make tv cards, to watch tv, and only tv

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ciphernemo:

koen: hehehe

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jengo:

oh ... the PVR-500 is only $140 from newegg ... thats not bad at all

[02:03:31]

ciphernemo:

they need to make a PVR-750... two 350's put together :)

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koen:

better get an amp. too

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ciphernemo:

jenog: yup, price went down... I paid a little more from newegg months ago

[02:04:08]

jengo:

I was kinda expecting a good card to cost like $300 or somethin ghehe

[02:04:18]

koen:

i have a win tv usb 1.1 fore sale: $15

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ciphernemo:

jengo: look closely at the newegg listing for it

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ciphernemo:

jengo: I bet at that price it's a "white box"

[02:04:38]

jengo:

besides the fact its out of stock ... hehe

[02:04:48]

jengo:

white box ?

[02:04:55]

koen:

oem

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ciphernemo:

jengo: that's all you'll need for linux anyways, but doesn't come with remote and other stuff that retail boxes do

[02:05:12]

jengo:

Hmmm good point

[02:05:31]

jengo:

Ya, I am still unsure what I am doing remote wise ... I thought about getting one of those fancy logitech remotes

[02:05:35]

ciphernemo:

jengo: it's like a step up from oem... but still includes FM ant., input PCI slot, and cd for windows ppl

[02:05:55]

jengo:

I am trying to build a large media library, my goal is to encode all 500 DVDs so I can watch them "on demand"

[02:06:48]

koen:

going to bed now

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ciphernemo:

koen: ACCK! I get... /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXv I've installed qt3 already! grrr

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koen:

install xv dev

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ciphernemo:

xv dev... do an apt search for that?

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koen:

yep

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ciphernemo:

kown: k, thx koen... sleep well :)

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koen:

of libxv something like that

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sunnyhours4130:

hmm.......... i wonder if i can rip a voltage regulator out of this vcr too

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ciphernemo:

koen: I got xlib something.. is that right?

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koen:

libxvmc-dev

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ciphernemo:

koen: yup, that was a dependency :)

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ciphernemo:

thx!

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ciphernemo:

now I'll do your make clean and such all over again

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koen:

nope just a make

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koen:

will suffice

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ciphernemo:

k

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ciphernemo:

different error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXxf86vm

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koen:

libXxf86dga1

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koen:

libXxf86vm

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sunnyhours4130:

ciphernemo what distro you on?

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ciphernemo:

sunnyhours4130: ubuntu dapper

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sunnyhours4130:

cool. all that stuff was a breeze on mandriva. urpmi got me all those dependencies without much trouble.

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ciphernemo:

koen: I have the first, should I get the first -dev?

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koen:

2nd i think

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ciphernemo:

koen: both of those you gave me I had... but not the -dev ones... so I'll get the -dev ones. I assume I don't need the -debug ones

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koen:

you need -dev off every dep. mythtv has

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ciphernemo:

the make is going further now

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ciphernemo:

why doesn't someone put all this info together? those guides for isntalling mythtv out there are shamelessly incomplete

[02:18:03]

ciphernemo:

including the official docs which are old

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koen:

i first an install guide from the wiki

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ciphernemo:

I install 0.18 via binary ok, but doing this with building my own takes a lot of work

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koen:

there whas a line for the requesits of building from source

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koen:

now i'm really of the bed, 4,19 am here

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ciphernemo:

koen: thx for all your help

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ciphernemo:

koen: g'night

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koen:

welcome

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Tuju:

should minimyth 20–19 work with mythtv-20 ?

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koen:

goog luck, and thank you for smoking

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ciphernemo:

koen: lol

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ciphernemo:

Tuju: sorry to respond to your question with a question, but what is minimyth?

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Tuju:

mmm, minimyth is 0.20–19b10

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Tuju:

http://linpvr.org/minimyth/

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jengo:

Time for bed, thanks again all

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Datum:

I'm having trouble getting myth setup to find any qam channels with an hdhomerun. Is there anything weird I need to do for that to work? I didn't find anything when searching the wiki, at least not for 0.20.

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ciphernemo:

Tuju: interesting... a diskless mythtv

[02:22:06]

Tuju:

yep, I've it running aside me.

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Tuju:

on VIA epia

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ciphernemo:

Tuju: ahhh... small box then, lol

[02:22:29]

Tuju:

just motherboard and 12v input and hook tv into it.

[02:22:38]

Tuju:

well, it has RAM module too.

[02:22:53]

Tuju:

but doesn't get much simpler than that.

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ciphernemo:

Tuju: true... how many watts does that cpu use?

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Tuju:

don't know, but I've got a power size of matchbox.

[02:23:39]

Tuju:

power supply, that is.

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ciphernemo:

Tuju: interesting... so that minimythtv thing ... what happens when you lose power to it? *poof*?

[02:24:15]

Tuju:

nuting

[02:24:28]

Tuju:

everything should be stored in backend which is centos

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Tuju:

SCA RAID server

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ciphernemo:

ahhh, it's a client!

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ciphernemo:

Tuju: makes more sense to me now :)

[02:24:57]

Tuju:

http://www.mini-box.com/PW-200M-DC-DC-power-s . . . ;category=13

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sunnyhours4130:

just the frontend

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Tuju:

yep.

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sunnyhours4130:

i'm interested now =) the mini hardware is more expensive than normal form factor hardware right?

[02:25:29]

Tuju:

I don't want any noice into my livingroom.

[02:25:35]

Tuju:

nope.

[02:25:46]

Tuju:

motherboard costs something ~200 euros.

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ciphernemo:

Tuju: how is the data transfered? network?

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Tuju:

those old models you get chaper I guess.

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sunnyhours4130:

i built my whole mythbox for like 200 dollars us though

[02:26:23]

Tuju:

yep, I think so. Haven't got mythtv yet running but I'm running VLC multicast at the moment.

[02:26:47]

sunnyhours4130:

cool

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seth|laptop:

I have a question. 2 identical dvb cards, only one available for config in myth setup. Any reason why that would happen?

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sunnyhours4130:

wow thats some cool stuff tuju. i'm looking at some hardware on the web for that.

[02:29:00]

Tuju:

ITX cases can be bit expensive but there are cheaper ones too and it basically fits into ATX case too.

[02:29:15]

Tuju:

but of course there would be too much space in such.

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Tuju:

I've one running in my car too :)

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sunnyhours4130:

haha for what? movies/music?

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Tuju:

nuting special yet.

[02:30:14]

Tuju:

OBDII and such in mind.

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sunnyhours4130:

ol' dirty bastard?

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ts0:

obd diagnostics for the car

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sunnyhours4130:

=P

[02:31:39]

ts0:

is everyone here stoned except me?

[02:31:49]

ts0:

just curious ;)

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sunnyhours4130:

nah

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sunnyhours4130:

you are too. don't try to play us

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Datum:

you can't prove anything ts0

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Tuju:

i guess you all are americans at this time of earth.

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Ediehow:

hi

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sunnyhours4130:

heya

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Ediehow:

i may have to give up my slot where my pvr-150mce is

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Ediehow:

is there a good external replacement?

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sunnyhours4130:

nope

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sunnyhours4130:

heh, not that i've heard of anyhow

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Ediehow:

man this stinks

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Ediehow:

i'm out of pci slots

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Datum:

Ediehow: I don't have one myself, but you might check out the plextor convertX tuners

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sunnyhours4130:

mini atx setup?

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Datum:

they're external and have hardware mpeg4 encoders

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Ediehow:

yeah, i saw those

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Datum:

in theory, they look pretty good. But like I said, I don't have one myself, so I don't know how good they really are

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Ediehow:

wow, they are only $47

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Ediehow:

do they for sure work in linux w/myth?

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Datum:

well, I did a quick google search and found this page: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_go7007

[02:38:32]

Datum:

that explains how to set them up

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Datum:

so, it looks like they work

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Ediehow:

am i reading this wrong?

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Ediehow:

$47?

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Datum:

::shrug::

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Ediehow:

http://www.unityelectronics.com/product-product_id/3016

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Ediehow:

that's the same model i need, right?

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aboutblank:

so i'm trying to compile myth, and it says i need the LAME mp3 encoding library to compile myth. Does apt-get install lame not get this?

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Datum:

I'm not sure

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Datum:

I think there are some models that just have the composite inputs

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Datum:

and no tuners

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sunnyhours4130:

might get an older version than what is needed

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sunnyhours4130:

i haven't used deb/ubu in a while. whats the way to find the version of lame that you got?

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Datum:

and that look like it's one of those without a tuner

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Ediehow:

http://www.unityelectronics.com/product-product_id/3256

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Ediehow:

does that one have a tuner?

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Ediehow:

yes, it does

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Datum:

yeah

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Ediehow:

but is that the one i need

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Ediehow:

?

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Ediehow:

that's onlky mpeg2

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Datum:

well

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Datum:

that page I found with the mythtv setup information

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Datum:

talks about configuring the model PX-TV402U

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Ediehow:

there's no other external ones?

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Datum:

I really don't know if the others are supported or not

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Ediehow:

i mean, like

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Datum:

that just came to mind

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Ediehow:

a wintv external?

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aboutblank:

is it recommended to compile myth yourself or use a package?

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Datum:

If you're looking for a good replacement to a pvr-150, which does hardware encoding

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Ediehow:

are there wireless usb adapters that let you use external antennas?

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Ediehow:

Datum, i'd prefer to keep what i have, but i am out of slots

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Ediehow:

and i need a wireless device with an external antenna

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Datum:

I don't think you're going to find many good external replacements. Heck, there aren't many good internal replacements :)

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Anduin:

aboutblank: Use packages if you can.

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Datum:

have you considered getting a USB wireless nic instead?

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Ediehow:

Datum, i need one with enough range, meaning i probably need to use an external antenna

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Ediehow:

for some bizarre reason, 1k feet away, my laptop can get on wireless, but no usb card i have tried can

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Datum:

I'm sorry, man. I can't think of any other tuners.

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Datum:

I don't have experience with many of them

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Ediehow:

don't worry about it, i'm going to h ave to keep my tuner

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Ediehow:

i just wish i could figure out how to easily use a usb wireless device and hook an external antenna to it

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Datum:

yeah. Sorry I couldn't help.

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Datum:

you probably already did this

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Datum:

Ediehow: but check out this page: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category . . . apture_cards

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Datum:

go through those, see if you can find something that would suffice

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Datum:

so, nobody here has a working hdhomerun with qam, and could help me find out where I'm going wrong?

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Ediehow:

im just going to have to build an antenna

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Ediehow:

http://www.usbwifi.orcon.net.nz/

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firefly2442:

can someone help me with mythfilldatabase issue: http://pastebin.ca/194616

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firefly2442:

it's not adding channel data to the database

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firefly2442:

I've tried removing the database and redoing it, doesn't seem to help

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firefly2442:

also tried removing the nonexistant channels via mythtv-setup

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Datum:

have you tried running mythfilldatabase with the "--do-channel-updates" parameter?

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firefly2442:

Datum, nope, lemme try that

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Tuju:

do you get those protocol errors?

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firefly2442:

AHHAHAH! It worked!

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Datum:

firefly: yay :)

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firefly2442:

Oh My! Thank you so much

[03:01:45]

Datum:

my pleasure

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firefly2442:

I've been working on this for the past week!

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firefly2442:

Thank you very much :)

[03:02:00]

Datum:

you're welcome

[03:04:09]

Tuju:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/228035 someone has fucked up things.

[03:04:33]

Tuju:

you change such things BETWEEN versions, not in patches.

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GreyFoxx:

To fix the bug required a protocol change. If a person runs identical versions of myth on both backend and frontend (the only really supported method) then they wouldn't have a problem

[03:05:51]

GreyFoxx:

If you upgrade one machine,update the other to the same version

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Tuju:

of course it should work if you use the same versions.

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Tuju:

that's why I said 'someone has fucked up' because I'm using the SAME versions.

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GreyFoxx:

Tuju: You aren't. Whatever packages you are using are likely two different checkouts from -fixes

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Tuju:

just how hard can it be.

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Tuju:

I'm not using checkouts.

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GreyFoxx:

The Packages are made from checkouts

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Tuju:

tarballs built by myself to RPMs.

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Tuju:

fucked up, I go to sleep.

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GreyFoxx:

No way you used the same original source

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GreyFoxx:

sleep well :)

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[R]:

mythtv is telling me that I have no upcoming recordings, when I totally should... i tried removing and readding one, but that didnt seem to fix it... anyone know how i can fix this?

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Pio:

[R], heh i just came in here to ask the same question, mine's doing that too

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Anduin:

[R]: restarting the backend does nothing?

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[R]:

nope

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[R]:

i've restarted it a few times

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Pio:

didnt work for me either :)

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Spicerun:

Hello,

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Anduin:

mythbackend --printsched?

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[R]:

its empty

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Anduin:

[R]: run mysqlcheck

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Anduin:

[R]: Also check that you disk isn't full

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Anduin:

r

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[R]:

error : Table './mythconverg/recordmatch' is marked as crashed and last (automatic?) repair failed

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Pio:

ah

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Pio:

thats probably my problem too.. had a power outage a bit ago

[03:17:50]

Spicerun:

Someone want to explain to me why mythtv suddenly can't do live TV when I transfer the recorded tv files (/mythtv/tv) to my new SATA drive from my old PATA drive?

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Anduin:

Spicerun: Because

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Spicerun:

Oh wait, I bet I know why. I forgot to change the recordings directory in mythtv-setup.

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[R]:

ah

[03:19:40]

[R]:

that did it

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[R]:

stupid mysql

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Spicerun:

Well, wait, my new SATA drive was mounted at (/mythtv/tv).

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Spicerun:

so that wasn't it either.

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Spicerun:

anyone have any ideas?

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Anduin:

Spicerun: You are certain the user you run the backend as can write there?

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Spicerun:

Yep.

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Anduin:

Spicerun: run the backend -v all,nodatabase and pastebin the chunk around the failed live TV

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Spicerun:

I'll do that when I move the files back to the Sata disk tomorrow.

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Spicerun:

I moved the files back to the PATA disk and unmounted the SATA disk....now it all works again.

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Anduin:

Yeah, that still sounds like a perms problem

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Spicerun:

Anduin: I'll fool with that then too and see if that fixes it.

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Spicerun:

First, my wife has to watch her recorded shows before I can 'break' the box again.

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Pio:

my problem was my master backend thought it was a slave backend

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Pio:

changed the ip address in mythtv-setup and all was well

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Spicerun:

BTW, does anyone know if a 10Mbyte cache, 7200 RPM Sata disk is faster than a 7200 RPM 8Mb cache PATA disk? I was surprised to find btw that I can only access the SATA disk with 16-bit accesses instead of 32-bit accesses.

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Spicerun:

I'm talking in terms of Data flow across to the AGP8 interface.

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Spicerun:

Thanks for the ideas Anduin

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LoneShadow:

anyone seen this problem, while booting up, I get "QSettings: error creating /.qt" while trying to start mythbackend

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LoneShadow:

if I log in as mythtv/root, and execute "/etc/init.d/mythbackend start", it starts up the app

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slide23:

How do I get mythtv to use channel names, right now like in mythweb it says '7 – Channel 7';

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ShockValue:

anyone using firewire/dct6200? i keep getting these errors when trying to watch tv: Taking too long to be allowed to read

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ShockValue:

after about 30 seconds, it just drops back to the main menu

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Anduin:

LoneShadow: usually a sign that however you are starting up doesn't have a home, or permissions to do what the error is about, it should still work though.

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Anduin:

slide23: It probably is using names, your names sucking is another problem.

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slide23:

is there a way to update the names automatically?

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Anduin:

slide23: Most people end up with those names by (incorrectly almost always) using the analog channel scanner. If that is what you did, run mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates

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slide23:

ok thank you :)

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slide23:

mythbackend should be down when doing this?

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slide23:

illegal option: '--do-channel-updates' (use --help)

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slide23:

its --do_channel_updates :)

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Anduin:

slide23: Only in the older version

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slide23:

hrm

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slide23:

<-- knoppmyth

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Anduin:

Yeah, probably not 0.20

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ShockValue:

arg, all my fonts are really tiny.. even when i crank up their size.. anyone know what thats about?

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ServerSage:

Has anybody else seen mythbackend eating up CPU time when it's not recording?

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adante:

ServerSage: yes.. occassionaly i come home to find its in a spinlock

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adante:

haven't figured out what causes it however

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ServerSage:

adante: Me either. The logs show nothing.

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ServerSage:

adante: And I don't have mythcommflag turned on. Argh. Frustrating.

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ServerSage:

adante: Did you see the same thing with .19? Or just .20?

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adante:

ServerSage: .20 as well

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slide23:

Anduin, now mythtv isnt showing my upcoming recordings

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ServerSage:

I've only seen it with .20.

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adante:

ServerSage: well .19 was extremely unstable in general for me (i use dvb with poor reception, myth was not so forgiving back in those days)

[04:53:41]

adante:

but yeah same issue – nothing in the logs seems to indicate anything

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ServerSage:

slide23: Have you looking in your database? Are they listed in there?

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adante:

although now you've mentioned it, it hasn't happened in a while

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DigerLAP:

myth is up and watch tv produces static

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ServerSage:

What distro are you running on adante?

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DigerLAP:

whats that all aboout?

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adante:

ServerSage: gentoo

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ServerSage:

DigerLAP: You probably have the wrong input chosen, or your cable isn't working. :)

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ServerSage:

adante: Same here.

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adante:

ServerSage: what version are you using atm?

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DigerLAP:

ok cable IS working but its not working on MYTH

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adante:

of myth, that is

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slide23:

ServerSage, are what? the actual recordings? they are listed in the Recording Schedule,

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DigerLAP:

where do i work on the inputs at from here?

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ServerSage:

DigerLAP: mythtv-setup

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ServerSage:

adante: .20_p11281

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ServerSage:

adante: I'm compiling p11444 right now.

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DigerLAP:

im not sure where that is, Im at HOME and i do see utilities/setup

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adante:

hm, probably time for me to bump up a ver

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ServerSage:

slide23: What exactly is the problem? I didn't get to read it before.

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ServerSage:

DigerLAP: It's not in the front end. Instead of running mythfrontend, run mythtv-setup

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slide23:

well I have my programs in the Recording Schedule, but they arent in the Upcoming Recordings

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ServerSage:

adante: What version you running?

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DigerLAP:

this is the MAIN box, imonly running one myth in this house

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ServerSage:

slide23: I ran into that when my database got hosed.

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slide23:

ok, so if i just re-add them, then they get scheduled

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ServerSage:

DigerLAP: Yes, and on that box, run mythtv-setup from the command line.

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ServerSage:

slide23: I had to run the mysql database fixer thingy. I can't remember the name of it off the top of my ehad.

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adante:

11244

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ServerSage:

head even.

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adante:

ServerSage: ^

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DigerLAP:

shit I exited myth, then it was soo minimul I did ctrl alt f2

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DigerLAP:

it was asking about login

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DigerLAP:

so I did f1 and got another login

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DigerLAP:

wtf

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adante:

who manages the portage mythtv ebuilds nowadays?

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ServerSage:

DigerLAP: I'm guessing you aren't a linux guy.

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Anduin:

adante: Cardoe

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DigerLAP:

i know enough

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DigerLAP:

been messing with it and running servers for several years

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DigerLAP:

yet I still run into some issues

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ServerSage:

adante: I think it's Doug Goldstein

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DigerLAP:

i dont know how to get my myth back up now

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DigerLAP:

im just at a $

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ServerSage:

DigerLAP: What distro are you running myth on?

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adante:

it's nice to see they're in order nowadays

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DigerLAP:

debian

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DigerLAP:

its was a knoppmyth install

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DigerLAP:

fuck im issuing a reboot

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adante:

back in the .19 (or .18?) days i remember there'd be 'stable' ebuilds where livetv wouldn't work

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ServerSage:

Language my good man, language.

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DigerLAP:

i think this is .19

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ServerSage:

adante: Yeah, but that was when gentoo was a little younger too. Portage has come a long way.

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DigerLAP:

what you never heard the F word before?

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DigerLAP:

does it offend

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DigerLAP:

its shouldnt

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DigerLAP:

its real world talk bab

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ServerSage:

DigerLAP: There are youngsters that use IRC too you know. :)

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DigerLAP:

not like they dont see it and here it elsewhere

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DigerLAP:

I have a 14 year old

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ServerSage:

Doesn't mean you have to contribute.

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DigerLAP:

well its backup

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DigerLAP:

ready to watch tv

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ServerSage:

Still have static?

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DigerLAP:

I need to configure this thing right

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DigerLAP:

yes

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ServerSage:

Okay, you need to get back to X.

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DigerLAP:

it comes up 1: Tuner 1

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ServerSage:

Oh, never mind. :)

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DigerLAP:

whasup

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ServerSage:

What card are you using DigerLAP?

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DigerLAP:

pvr 150

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ServerSage:

That should work perfectly under knoppmyth. :( Hmm.

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DigerLAP:

I couldnt find enough info on the setup once it was in a gui

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ShockValue:

arg.. ok, ive researched my DisplaySize, and set that, but it doesnt seem to makea difference in font size at all.. ive tried moving it up and down, but it doesnt change anything

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DigerLAP:

I once saw a video on systm and they said to choose Television as a input and it wasnt on my build

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ServerSage:

DigerLAP: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ has all kinds of info that may help you out.

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DigerLAP:

my remote aint doing anything either

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DigerLAP:

guess i should have chosen DOG BONE

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DigerLAP:

and its not showing up on my tv

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DigerLAP:

only the pc monitor

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DigerLAP:

i have been all over that wiki earlier this week

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ServerSage:

DigerLAP: I've never used knoppmyth, so I'm afraid I can't help you too much. But, as a linux user, you might want to take a look at: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_PVR-150

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DigerLAP:

some things

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DigerLAP:

i ned to know

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DigerLAP:

are how do I get a console to work in and not lose my myth

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ServerSage:

Also DigerLAP: You might wanna take a look at http://knoppmythwiki.org/ – looks like it has some of the info you need as well.

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DigerLAP:

i have looked at most all of it

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ServerSage:

ctr-alt-f7 should be X (with myth running) and any other (f1-f4) should work for a console.

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DigerLAP:

k

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ServerSage:

You could also change the root password, start sshd, and log in from another computer.

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DigerLAP:

well how do I run mythtv-setup

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DigerLAP:

from console

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DigerLAP:

need to be root?

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ServerSage:

DigerLAP: That info "should" be in that wiki. Han gon.

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ServerSage:

err...hang on.

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ServerSage:

http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=Haupp . . . Installation

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ServerSage:

One place to start – that is a knoppmyth specific pvr-150 how-to install guide.

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ServerSage:

ShockValue: So you need your fonts bigger or smaller? Have you changed the setting in "Utilities/Setup"->Setup->Appearance->Font size

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DigerLAP:

nano /etc/modprobe.d/ivtv does not exist

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DigerLAP:

brb

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ServerSage:

DigerLAP: You really need to "read" that page. The line right above says, and I quote, "You probably don't have this file unless you're upgrading. Just create it from scratch."

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bakkkk:

Hey Guys, I setup two monitors without using twinview...So i have screen 0 and screen 1 but I cant get anything to launch on screen 1...what should my display variable be, I tried export DISPLAY=:1; and it says cannot open display...any ideas?

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ServerSage:

bakkkk: You need to run X with -display localhost:1

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ServerSage:

bakkkk: Or rather -display :1

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bakkkk:

ServerSage: when i do export DISPLAY=:1;

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bakkkk:

then mythfronend it says cannont connect to X server :1

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bakkkk:

but I deffinitly can see the desktop on both displays so i dont see why i cant launch anything to display :1

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ServerSage:

You sure they are :0 and :1?

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bakkkk:

I'm pretty sure, how can i check?

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ServerSage:

Can you run something like "xterm -display:1"

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ServerSage:

Argh, I can't type. "xterm -display :1"

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ShockValue:

ServerSage: ive changed them, but in things like the program guide and mythmusic, they're all really small still

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ShockValue:

the thing is, xorg looks like its setting my DPI reguardless of what i set my displaysize to:

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ShockValue:

(--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (31, 31); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config option

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bakkkk:

ServerSage: no when i do that it says xterm Xt error: cant open display: :1

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ShockValue:

an i dont want 31,31. i want 100,100

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ServerSage:

ShockValue: Have you tried adding Option "DPI" "100 x 100" in your display device section of your xorg.conf file?

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ShockValue:

no, does that go in the Display section i take it?

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bakkkk:

DISPLAY=:0.1 fixed it!

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ServerSage:

bakkkk: Are you running that from the X session?

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bakkkk:

I guess you need the 0.1

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bakkkk:

not just .1

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ServerSage:

ShockValue: Yes, wherever you define your video card.

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ServerSage:

bakkkk: :) Glad ya figured it out.

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ShockValue:

well the display section and device section are 2 different sections :)

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ServerSage:

ShockValue: Cut me some slack, it's late here. Hehe.

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Anduin:

ShockValue: There is also the UseEdidDpi nVidia settings

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word:

bah, anyone else have any luck getting 'mythtv-database' to stop trying to connect locally? i've found 5 different mysql.txt's and set their info right.. /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt /home/word/.mythtv/mysql.txt /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt any i'm missing?

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MindHack:

hmm, just updated mythweb, now the 'upcoming recordings' page is blank, and setting up new recordings is just ignored

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MindHack:

mysql is running, and the listings page is accurate

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ServerSage:

MindHack: What version of mythweb did you grab?

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MindHack:

0.20_p11329 from portage

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MindHack:

guess I'll fall back on 0.20_p11188

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ServerSage:

Give p11444 a try.

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ServerSage:

Never mind. I'm mental. :)

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word:

wasn't there a problem not to long ago where an update of mythweb made it so you couldn't schedule recordings? that sounds about like what you're experiancing..

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ServerSage:

word: That was fixed in p11188.

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word:

Hm...

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firefly2442:

My sound is slightly off in MythTV, I'm using the tvtuner card sound out cable that then goes into my soundcard

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firefly2442:

I remember fixing this before but I can't remember what I did

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word:

i think i remember skimming past a fix for that in the docs

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xris:

word: check mythweb out from the fixes branch and you'll be fine

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word:

xris: not me with the problem it's MindHack

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MindHack:

fixes branch/

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xris:

ah

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ServerSage:

xris: And he is using a version that has the fix.

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MindHack:

hmm

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xris:

ServerSage: "the fix" is not correct. there were half a dozen separate commits fixing related issues.

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MindHack:

falling back doesn't work without recompiling mythtv too. That'll take forever

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loki_en:

I just finished my first mythtv install, using 0.20 packages on ubuntu to avoid the MySQL 5.0 incompatability. Everything works great, except higher channels that my VCR tuner detected without a problem are not available. PVR-150. My signal strength might be weak, but the VCR didn't have a problem. This is US – comcast analog cable in Washington State to be exact. Does anyone have a quick guess about why the upper channels are straight st

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ServerSage:

+xris: But they were all fixed last month. p11329 has all fixes current to Sept 29.

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xris:

ServerSage: that could be. so what's the problem (I missed that part of the discussion)

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xris:

loki_en: define "upper channels"

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loki_en:

anything above channel 13

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word:

loki_en: are the channels there and fuzzy?

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loki_en:

nope – static

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loki_en:

3–13 are alright, but 13 has audio problems.

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word:

i meant static..so they're in the channel list?

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xris:

loki_en: does 20 come in? annoying that 22 no longer exists for you to test

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ServerSage:

+xris: His upcoming recordings page is blank, and new recordings are ignored. :) Just like the prior problem. I am running the same version without problem.

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xris:

ServerSage: ah. sounds like there might be a php config problem (memory limit maybe). MindHack – have you checked the apache error log for info?

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MindHack:

doing so now

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xris:

loki_en: sounds to me like it's still using us_bcast or something like that.

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xris:

or another device on the cable (vcr?) is interfering

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MindHack:

xris: nothing out of the ordinary :/

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xris:

MindHack: do you get ANY content on the recordings page, or is it just missing the recordings themselves?

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MindHack:

hmm, recordings page is populated as usual

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MindHack:

just nothing on upcoming recordings

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MindHack:

upcoming recordings has 4 checkboxen at the top, and a table header

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MindHack:

just nothing in the table

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word:

maybe the table corrupted?

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xris:

does the backend list any upcoming recordings on the status page?

[06:00:01]

MindHack:

heh, status page is dead, apparently I need to re-allow url file access

[06:00:10]

MindHack:

maybe it was the etc-update I did that caused this problem

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xris:

could be. restarted apache, backend, etc?

[06:00:36]

MindHack:

yup

[06:00:50]

MindHack:

lemme re-modify that file

[06:00:53]

MindHack:

thats gotta be it

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MindHack:

although there isn't any php errors on the upcoming recordings page

[06:01:09]

DigerLAP:

when I try to to run mythtv-setup it tells me cannot connect to X server

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word:

DigerLAP: if you can't run mythtv-setup it should have a problem running any gui app as well...

[06:01:59]

xris:

DigerLAP: and.. are you running X, etc?

[06:02:17]

DigerLAP:

well its running myth I just cant get my tunner to act right, I got static and I was gonna try and go through setup again

[06:02:21]

DigerLAP:

suggestions?

[06:02:38]

xris:

DigerLAP: did you su ?

[06:02:42]

MindHack:

xris: status page fixed, no shows scheduled for recording. Damn, I had like 10 in there

[06:02:46]

DigerLAP:

yes i did that

[06:02:50]

DigerLAP:

just su not su -

[06:03:04]

xris:

DigerLAP: that might still kill access to the X server. try sudo instead

[06:03:11]

xris:

or just run it as the user (doesn't really matter in this case)

[06:03:32]

MindHack:

xris: and recording commands still ignored

[06:04:03]

xris:

MindHack: do you have any program data? And what does the recording schedules page show?

[06:04:05]

word:

MindHack: see if the apache log file has anything interesting

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DigerLAP:

are you saying i need to be logged in as the user i setup instead of root?

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loki_en:

sorry I bombed out there – low swap.

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xris:

DigerLAP: su is not "logged in as root"

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word:

DigerLAP: you don't 'need' to be..just it'll open up that way

[06:04:26]

loki_en:

no – channel 20 doesn't come in.

[06:04:28]

MindHack:

xris: oh hey, the recording schedules page is populated

[06:04:37]

loki_en:

And, I'm sure I missed the answer.

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MindHack:

word: nothing relevant in the apache logs :/

[06:04:48]

DigerLAP:

well it says root@mythtv#

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xris:

loki_en: sounds to me like it's still using us_bcast or something like that.

[06:04:54]

xris:

or another device on the cable (vcr?) is interfering

[06:05:05]

xris:

DigerLAP: again. did you log in as root, or use su?

[06:05:11]

DigerLAP:

used su

[06:05:14]

xris:

su can block X connections

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loki_en:

I don't have anything else on the line. But, it's set at "Default". Should I change the format to "us-cable"?

[06:05:42]

MindHack:

xris: although, there exists duplicates in the recording schedules page, from all the times that I kept issuing commands

[06:05:43]

DigerLAP:

well i exited SU and still same thing

[06:05:51]

DigerLAP:

wont run mythtv-setup

[06:06:08]

xris:

DigerLAP: and you can run other apps like xev ?

[06:06:08]

word:

DigerLAP: export :0 (or whatever your display is) ...i think...

[06:06:16]

DigerLAP:

sudo did something once I was out of SU

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xris:

MindHack: odd

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xris:

loki_en: should be us_cable

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DigerLAP:

it says im not in the sudoers file

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loki_en:

got it. Thanks.

[06:07:09]

xris:

loki_en: works?

[06:07:10]

MindHack:

xris: would it make sense to just wipe the db?

[06:07:17]

word:

MindHack: not really..

[06:07:25]

xris:

MindHack: are you at a point where you could start over from scratch?

[06:07:27]

word:

MindHack: do you have phpmyadmin?

[06:07:47]

word:

would be easy to check the database for errors that way

[06:08:07]

MindHack:

word: nope, but I suppose I can do stuff on the commandline. xris : pretty new setup, my only concern is if its a bug with this release, how old is the ebuild, would you know?

[06:08:40]

xris:

no clue

[06:08:52]

xris:

doesn't sound like a mythweb problem, though.

[06:08:57]

xris:

all of that data comes straight from the backend

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word:

MindHack: ah i had to rebuild my recordedseek table a while ago because it got corrupted...forgot the command..but something similar may have happened to you..

[06:09:01]

MindHack:

ah, looks like the date is the 10th

[06:09:12]

MindHack:

wait.....nevermind

[06:09:14]

MindHack:

6th

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MindHack:

yesterday

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word:

DigerLAP: not in the sudoers file? did you try sudo export :0 ?

[06:09:56]

MindHack:

xris: so the upcoming recordings page and the recording schedules page draw from two different tables?

[06:10:01]

xris:

MindHack: could wipe the program table and rerun mythtvsetup

[06:10:10]

word:

MindHack: my guess is yes

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xris:

upcoming recording comes from the backend, not the db

[06:11:02]

MindHack:

so recording schedules comes straight from the db, and upcoming recordings comes from the backend, which gets info from the db I presume?

[06:11:26]

DigerLAP:

it says im not in the sudoers file so now what can i do

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word:

DigerLAP: did you try export :0 or mythtv-setup as regular user?

[06:12:06]

loki_en:

us-cable works – and thanks

[06:12:10]

xris:

MindHack: yeah, sort of. the upcoming recordings comes from the scheduler, which is a huge calculation that gets some of its info from the db

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xris:

DigerLAP: just run it as yourself without any su or sudo

[06:14:31]

ShockValue:

got it workin.. needed the Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE" thing

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MindHack:

alright, Im gonna downgrade to myth11281, I'll update you guys in the morning

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word:

xris: are you familiar with this darned mythtv-database package?

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xris:

word: nope, not unless it's for fedora.

[06:20:50]

word:

no :( apparently..it wants to use my local mysql-server even though..i have this and another computer set up as slave backends..and all the mysql.txt files are set reflecting that..

[06:21:37]

xris:

word: then ignore it?

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word:

it's a dependent of mythtv and it keeps coming up every time an update comes out...really bugs me and when other things don't work i blame it lol...

[06:22:51]

DigerLAP:

it didnt work xris

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DigerLAP:

I been messing with this all day, this machine once ran MCE perfectly, im going back to that

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word:

DigerLAP: can you open up another application window?

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DigerLAP:

fuck this myth shit

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word:

sigh...

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xris:

funny how users get frustrated with linux like that.

[06:25:03]

word:

funnily frustrating (if funnily was a word..)

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xris:

I know the feeling sometimes, though

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xris:

damn, I need to think about sleep. have to get up earlyish tomorrow.

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word:

xris: me too..any ideas why nfs on one computer only would refuse to let people mount it's drive? with 95% certainty on correct config?

[06:35:10]

Anduin:

xris: basename seems to only be set for filenames with myth:// URLs (basically I'm seeing that local_path isn't being set correctly)

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xris:

Anduin: ?

[06:36:03]

Anduin:

xris: perl module stuff, Recording.pm

[06:36:34]

xris:

ah.

[06:36:56]

Anduin:

(I of course didn't notice until my Windows user went to go click on her shows)

[06:38:05]

xris:

Anduin: what are you using that uses the perl module?

[06:38:23]

Anduin:

xris: mythrename.pl

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xris:

still confused. what with myth:// URL's? mythrename shouldn't bother with that.

[06:39:26]

Anduin:

xris: Recording.pm ~line 51

[06:40:09]

xris:

ahh

[06:40:20]

xris:

ok, I have no recollection of writing this. weird.

[06:40:50]

Anduin:

xris: Yeah, right now all recordings have the video directory for their full path

[06:41:49]

Anduin:

I let Mr. Hyde do a lot of coding for me as well, sometimes when I look at MythVideo my heads just hurts.

[06:41:58]

xris:

heh

[06:42:11]

xris:

give me examples of what data you're getting.

[06:42:14]

xris:

or an example

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Anduin:

xris: basically a new Recording is created with /var/media/video//1006_20061007232900.mpg as the filename, basename never gets set (the current code expects a URL for filename)

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Anduin:

xris: local_path is set to video_dir + basename and used down in the load_file_info function

[06:45:05]

Anduin:

xris: In this case local_path is always just videodir (which the nuv info loader hates)

[06:45:08]

xris:

ok, so instead of pulling out the url, I just have to pull off the video_dir

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Anduin:

Yeah, should work for local recordings

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xris:

Anduin: ok, committed a quick fix

[06:48:46]

Anduin:

xris: Thank you

[06:49:09]

** xris needs to sleep now. **

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Qwell:

Is it possible to manually tune the frequency table? Everything coming into the tuner is really fuzzy – some more than others. The connection is just fine

[07:03:23]

word:

Qwell: i believe so although i wouldn't be able to tell you how..

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Anduin:

Qwell: There is a finetune column in the DB that will let you adjust the actual frequency (assuming you are using a standard table), also if the thing in freqid looks like a frequency it will be used.

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Ediehow:

J-e-f-f-A: you there?

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Ediehow:

any ideas?:)

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k-man:

i seem to recall that .20 was supposed to have some kind of support for usb flash drives

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k-man:

is that the case?

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jduggan:

hi, when i 'p' live tv, it pauses the video but the audio keeps going so when i 'p' to play its using the updateded audio.. im using the audio out of my tvcard to line in of my snd card, anyone able to point me in the right direction?

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Anduin:

jduggan: You don't have it capturing right

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Anduin:

jduggan: The documentation at mythtv.org has info on setting it up right

[08:40:49]

Tuju:

where can I download mythtv-0.20-fixes.tar.bz2 ?

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Anduin:

Tuju: The fixes branch isn't really packaged that way

[08:41:58]

Tuju:

Yep, i noticed, wouldn't be asking otherwise.

[08:42:21]

Tuju:

I can't recompile my frontend so I need to update my backend.

[08:42:47]

Anduin:

Tuju: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/

[08:43:19]

Tuju:

I need to make tarball my own?

[08:43:41]

Anduin:

Tuju: or just use what you checkout

[08:43:59]

Tuju:

rpmbuild doensn't build from checkouts.

[08:45:00]

Anduin:

Tuju: There is no .spec in the myth tarballs anyway

[08:45:15]

Tuju:

I made one (or few).

[08:45:50]

Tuju:

Anduin – I have it running already – until I noticed that someone went and modifed already tagged release and broked the protocol.

[08:45:51]

Anduin:

Tuju: why not just use atrpms?

[08:46:03]

Tuju:

because they are not for my centos.

[08:46:44]

Tuju:

i have centos 4 and x86_64 arch. tried atrpms, that was nogo.

[08:47:44]

Anduin:

Stuck making your own tarball then

[08:47:57]

Tuju:

I have 0.20 tarball and my cross compiled frontend is compiled against that too. and that combination doesn't work.

[08:48:06]

Tuju:

because someone 'fixed' the protocol.

[08:48:16]

Tuju:

in tagged release.

[08:48:26]

Anduin:

Uh, if built from the same tarball it will work

[08:48:39]

Tuju:

Anduin, what is the process to make that tarball from snapshot?

[08:48:59]

Anduin:

Tuju: svn export it, tar it up

[08:49:17]

Tuju:

Anduin, it should be built from same *release* but can't tell as you can't trust to the version numbers.

[08:49:21]

Tuju:

Anduin, ack.

[08:49:40]

Tuju:

nothing have to be done to the snapshot before tarballing?

[08:49:44]

Anduin:

The version numbers are mostly meaningless, there is a protocol and binary version number that must match as well.

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Tuju:

Anduin and that sucks. really.

[08:50:24]

Anduin:

Tuju: I don't make the releases, that is best guessing.

[08:50:52]

Tuju:

exactly – and I don't build nor create my frontend. Without versions all we're doing is guessing.

[08:51:00]

Anduin:

Tuju: Yeah, whole long thread about in on the mail list, I think it (the complaining about it) is just silly.

[08:51:26]

Tuju:

and that's the reason someone invented those versions at the midevil days in the first place.

[08:52:20]

Tuju:

Basically this project doesn't respect the shit's worth of it's users.

[08:53:02]

Anduin:

It just expects them to be somewhat less lame, if you are going to use -fixes, use it consistently. If you stuck to actual released tarballs you would never see the problem.

[08:53:48]

Tuju:

Anduin – the fact is that I CANT USE it consistently. Even I would want, but I can't. I have to rely on versions what other people tell me.

[08:54:11]

Tuju:

I can't build the hole world starting from hongkong everytime I need a piece of software.

[08:55:39]

Tuju:

forcing everybody – the endusers to come down to the asm level on your product tells that 'this is not meant to be take-it-and-use-it product, but we wanna you to spend days after days hacking to get it into use'

[08:56:32]

Tuju:

the fact is that if I now take a snapshot and tarball it – HEAD has probably passed the point where protocol version was 31 which i need.

[08:56:34]

Anduin:

Not being able to use the same -fixes everywhere is just a packaging problem, if 0.20.1 were released many people would be asking why it doesn't work with 0.20, and it would still be a packaging problem.

[08:57:10]

Tuju:

Anduin, no it's a co-operating problem.

[08:57:39]

Tuju:

if people can't share their work and rely on version numbers, you're forcing everybody to work alone. that's it.

[08:58:04]

Anduin:

Tuju: even if that were the case (it isn't -fixes is still at 31) you could checkout the exact same svn revision as whatever you needed

[08:58:40]

Tuju:

considering on how many platforms and projects this is used, one would would think that it's selfexplitanary but aparent it aint.

[08:59:14]

Tuju:

Anduin excatly – I would, and I can't tell what version my co-worker in minimyth used.

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Tuju:

because HE ALSO thought that we could realy on versions and he only documented that one.

[08:59:47]

Tuju:

and that's coded into tarball names.

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teapot:

morning

[09:00:20]

Tuju:

why to fsck use versions at all if those are just to lead people into wrong direction?!!?!

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RaYmAn-Bx:

Tuju: does it not work if you stick entirely to the releases?

[09:01:03]

Tuju:

RaymMan-Bx no, it doesn't.

[09:01:16]

Tuju:

it complains that server has version 30 and client 31.

[09:01:41]

Tuju:

and I'm not the onlyone suffering for this: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/228035

[09:01:41]

RaYmAn-Bx:

and they are both released 0.20? not -fixes or whatever

[09:01:56]

Tuju:

RaymMan-Bx yep, exactly.

[09:02:51]

Tuju:

mythtv wiki page says that use 0.20-fixes release and there are no such available – espesically when we have that pretty download page where is only those couple links wisible instead of directory listing.

[09:03:00]

Tuju:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ma . . . rintable=yes

[09:03:08]

Tuju:

"There is a protocol change in the 0.20-fixes release. If you are experiencing protocol mismatches, be sure all your systems are using the same release of 0.20-fixes."

[09:03:13]

Anduin:

Tuju: You misunderstand what a release is.

[09:03:42]

Tuju:

Anduin frankly I have a strong feeling that this project dev's never got it in the first place. :)

[09:04:12]

Tuju:

first of all – YOU DON'T BREAK THE PROTOCOL IN MINOR RELEASES. period.

[09:04:32]

Tuju:

if you do, you forgot what the release is.

[09:04:38]

Anduin:

Yea, you are changing minds.

[09:04:54]

Tuju:

i didn't expect to do so.

[09:05:33]

Tuju:

would you like that you'r dev environment (i assume that it's linux kernel) wouldn't run it's ELF binaries and not be able to mount ext3 in minor update?

[09:05:34]

Anduin:

-fixes is just that fixes, an incompatible fix doesn't force a release it forces you to run the same fix set.

[09:05:48]

Tuju:

Anduin, I got that already.

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Tuju:

did you get that we can't share work between different platform packagers?

[09:06:09]

RaYmAn-Bx:

Tuju: I do agree that breaking compatability in a -fixes or similar branch is bad, but the problem you and other people are having is obviously different versions. Not the same released tarball.

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kraut:

moin

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Tuju:

RaymMan-Bx Yes, we seem to have different versions – and we shouldn't because we used the same version numbers – what I assume was tagged into svn.

[09:07:56]

Tuju:

these are the fscking basics of sw dev what we're talking about here.

[09:08:00]

Tuju:

really.

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Anduin:

Yes, the basics dictate that you pull the same code, you violated that and would rather complain.

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Tuju:

if you wanna break the ABI's and protocols, just label versions more verbosely and inform people, can it be that hard?

[09:09:04]

Tuju:

Anduin – you obviously didn't read what I wrote.

[09:09:25]

Tuju:

I can understand that others complined in the mailing list as you told.

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Tuju:

But hey – your version number is below 0.20 so you're right – this is not meant for endusers nor hackers like me who has worked with linux 12 years (for living). I'll come back when it's 1.0.

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otwin:

Tuju: why don't you just use svn and checkout the same revision that your frontend is based on?

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Anduin:

Tuju: You are essentially demanding that all release candidates for a particular linux kernel be backwards compatible. In your 12 years I'm sure you've noticed that simply isn't the case.

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Anduin:

Tuju: propose a system that doesn't involve a new release when a somewhat trivial fix goes into -fixes (yes even a protocol bump can be trivial, and in fact usually is)

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Tuju:

otwin, because I don't know what version of svn the frontend packager used.

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Tuju:

Anduin have you noticed that in kernel there are major and minor releases ? eh?

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Anduin:

Tuju: pretend the svn revision is the minor, and if something was built from svn then mythfrontend --version will tell you exactly which revision, try it.

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teapot:

um

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teapot:

Does anyone know if there's an IRC channel for LIRC ?

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Tuju:

Anduin, I don't care that is the fix trivial or not. I would appreciate that it would go in with major version change. If it breaks the protocol and prevents using same version clients, you're lost in your tagging, seriously.

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Anduin:

teapot: #lirc (or ##lirc), not extremely active (reportedly)

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Tuju:

Anduin, that's the first thing today what I agree with.

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teapot:

thanks Anduin

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niktaris_lap:

hi all, how do I rip a dvd as _one_ .iso so I can see one entry?

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Anduin:

niktaris_lap: Use the ISO rip option.

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Tuju:

Library API version: 0.20.20060828–3

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Tuju:

Source code version: Unknown

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Anduin:

Tuju: So not built from svn

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Anduin:

(or rather a svn checkout with svn stuff still around)

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Tuju:

http://linpvr.org/minimyth/download/test/latest/

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Tuju:

that's where they make the release.

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Tuju:

so as there is no tag for changes between version tags, it's hard to get the exactly same snapshot by myself.

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otwin:

Tuju: I'm running minimyth too...

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niktaris_lap:

Anduin, from Optical disks -> Import DVD ?

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Tuju:

otwin, which releases?

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Tuju:

verisons...

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Tuju:

versions

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otwin:

Tuju: 0.20b10

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Tuju:

ack, without problems?

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otwin:

it's pretty obvious on which revision it's based on: http://linpvr.org/

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Tuju:

what system I've as backend? I've centos.

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otwin:

Tuju: ubuntu

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Tuju:

ack

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otwin:

just checkout svn-fixes at revision 11458

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Anduin:

Tuju: short of making a new tag in that branch (the merit of which is highly questionable, your packager isn't giving you the svn revision, expecting the tag is just as unlikely), well, still seems silly

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Tuju:

Anduin, yep, I agree.

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Anduin:

niktaris_lap: Yes, that is the place.

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Tuju:

otwin, where did you see that revision?

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Tuju:

from cvsweb?

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Tuju:

or has minimyth documented it somewhere?

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Anduin:

Tuju: In the text on that URL, not the best place

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otwin:

http://linpvr.org/ there he says what the latest build is based on

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Tuju:

otwin, you're right :)

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Tuju:

I even had read it last night.

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otwin:

then after getting 0.20-fixes, use 'svn -r 11458' to have the same backend as the latest minimyth. compile, install and reboot minimyth

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niktaris_lap:

Anduin, there I get "Title 1 of 2" These are the number of .vob files on the DVD. Is this normal?

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Anduin:

niktaris_lap: Yes

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Tuju:

otwin, I earn that much that it would make my settop box too expensive. I rather go and take 10 commercial boxes with less money.

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Tuju:

simply don't have time to delve into minimyth gar environment.

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otwin:

Tuju: I don't understand. What minimyth have you installed? What frontend do you use?

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kavorka^:

hi, does anyone know the maximum file size avidemux2 can handle?

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niktaris_lap:

Anduin, Ok so I select to rip both and it give me 2 entries in "Watch Videos" Am I missing something ?

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Anduin:

niktaris_lap: If you selected ISO rip it should have copied the entire thing

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niktaris_lap:

Anduin, the only ISO I see is in quality. Right ?

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niktaris_lap:

or should I change some settings from someplace ?

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Anduin:

niktaris_lap: Yes, in the quality section, there is no need to select anything else

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niktaris_lap:

ok lets try it again

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Tuju:

rebuild with snapshot seems to solve the protocol version.

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Tuju:

thanks anduin and owtin.

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Tuju:

otwin, that is.

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emja:

i'd appreciate some help with lirc. I had it running fine but then upgraded some packages a few weeks back and it hasn't worked since. I think it was a kernel upgrade that did it.

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emja:

the correct lirc-kmdl-blah is installed

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emja:

from syslog; "could not get file information for /dev/lirc"

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emja:

what have I overlooked?

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emja:

bah! all it needed was a 'modprobe lirc_gpio'. thanks to http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#lirc

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emja:

:-)

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xzcvczx:

is there a way to get mythvideo to log into your imdb account to get the info?

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fish_:

re

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sunnyhours4130:

dayum....... installing lirc sounds pretty intensive

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pben:

hi

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pben is now known as benp

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benp:

i have followed the guide here http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/156055#156055 and it all seemed to work ok, then i re-booted and it seems to not work anymore

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benp:

checked the xpad.o and xir.o are still there, they have the correct permissions but the remote is working in a similar fashion to how it did before adding those modules

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benp:

does anyone know what the problem might be ?

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Mattwj2005:

hey guys

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Mattwj2005:

I had no luck with getting my pvr-150 working

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Mattwj2005:

I am going to try a newer version of the kernel

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Mattwj2005:

custom kernel time! :-P

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Qwell:

Mattwj2005: If you use 2.6.16 or 2.6.17, you need a specific version of ivtv

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Mattwj2005:

I am using 2.6.17 that came with the newest version of Knoppmyth

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Qwell:

Then you need ivtv 0.7.x

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Mattwj2005:

2.6.18 is suppose to have built support for the card

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Mattwj2005:

yeah it has 0.7.0

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jammyd:

Anyone know why I have to use the -aid parameter when watching some myth recordings in mplayer?

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jammyd:

Not all of them have this issue, but some do and it's a bit of a PITA

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Mattwj2005:

it is just like with my pchdtv-5500 the drivers never did anything for me

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Mattwj2005:

a new kernel did

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Mattwj2005:

so what are you guys up to today?

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** SarahEmm waves, morning all **

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Mattwj2005:

hi Sarah

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SarahEmm:

what are people here using for frontends? i'm running an xbox now, which i've been using for a couple years, but it's paaaainfully slow navigating the mythtv UI...

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Mattwj2005:

I am using a 1.2 Ghz Celeron PC that is for my frontend and backend

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** SarahEmm needs something living-room-appropriate, which is why i've been using the xbox.. **

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jduggan:

im using a 2ghz celeron with 512mb ram, but i find this sometimes laggy with the mythtv gui

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jduggan:

it also has the backend on it

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SarahEmm:

yikes... a 2GHz box?

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SarahEmm:

ahh. that'd explain it heh

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** SarahEmm has a seperate backend on a 1.7GHz celeron doing just backend **

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jduggan:

hmm

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jduggan:

i should look into that

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SarahEmm:

the frontend is just slow because it's a 700mhz celeron with like 64MB of RAM...

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Mattwj2005:

nope a 1.2 Ghz

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SarahEmm:

Mattwj2005: was talking to jduggan

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jduggan:

i have a samba/nfs server which that's all it does

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Mattwj2005:

oh sorry

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Mattwj2005:

:)

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jduggan:

i might make that the fileserver

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jduggan:

erm

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jduggan:

backend

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jduggan:

even

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jduggan:

thats a p4

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SarahEmm:

anyone have recommended cases for a frontend?

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SarahEmm:

that look .. living-roomey?

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jduggan:

shuttle?

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SarahEmm:

hrm.. maybe..

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SarahEmm:

that's what my backend is, heh :)

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jduggan:

anyway, i have a question, firstly, how or where do i specify the command to process DVD's (ie which player to use and with what option arguements), secondly how can i startup DVDs when i want, rather than have that media monitor running and them start when i put the dvd in the drive

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jduggan:

because that's annoying, i dont always want to watch it as soon as i put the disc in the drive

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SarahEmm:

umm, the former is under settings, then mythdvd

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SarahEmm:

the latter.. is the media monitor a myth thing? mine doesnt' do that

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jduggan:

i dont have settings->mythdvd

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SarahEmm:

it might be buried... it's in settings somewhere

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** SarahEmm isn't sure where offhand **

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jduggan:

is mythdvd a plugin?

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SarahEmm:

yes

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jduggan:

aha

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jduggan:

ok

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jduggan:

that would explain =]

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SarahEmm:

hehe

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jduggan:

but my mythtv supports dvd's anyway

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jduggan:

is this normal?

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jduggan:

i should probably build it all from source so i know what's what, but these unofficial debian packages seem to have worked hassle free thus far

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SarahEmm:

err....

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SarahEmm:

you must have the plugin then

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jduggan:

in utilities-setup->media settings-> i have a 'video settings' option where i can change the default player for .vob

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jduggan:

but the input box isnt long enough to input all the args that i want for it

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SarahEmm:

hrm....

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SarahEmm:

oh, wait

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SarahEmm:

that's mythvideo, not mythdvd

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SarahEmm:

still a plugin, but the general video-playing one, not the dvd one

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Zider:

jduggan: what kind of args? what player?

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jduggan:

mplayer

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jduggan:

with optimisation args

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jduggan:

and specifying the sound card device

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Zider:

can't they be setin the cfgfile?

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Zider:

set in

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jduggan:

well anyway, the input box is long enough, just when u input so much it turns almost like sms

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jduggan:

one key has multiple chars

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jduggan:

bit weird

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jduggan:

is there a list of plugins enabled in mythtv?

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jduggan:

or a config dir i can check

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Zider:

I think that happens when you type numbers.. so you can use a remote to enter text

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jduggan:

ah

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jduggan:

makes sense

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jduggan:

coz i got as far as entering -cache arg to mplayer =]

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Zider:

why notenterthatin cfg file instead?

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Zider:

..my space key suck :P

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jduggan:

config of mythtv?

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Zider:

no, mplayer

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jduggan:

guess i could

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wirelessdreamer:

anyone here know how i can add an escape or back button on screen to click on?

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jduggan:

SarahEmm: i've been through all the utilities/setup menu's there's no mythdvd setup

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jduggan:

it starts up using 'totem' which is the default player installed within gnome

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jduggan:

there must be a config file i can edit rather than search menu's?

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FunkyELF:

every time I start MythTV it asks what language. I think that started happening after it crashed once....any ideas?

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MindHack:

Cardoe: hey :) I think there may be a bug with 11444 in amd64

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SarahEmm:

jduggan: do you have mythdvd installed?

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murat:

hi

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murat:

when I am compiling mythtv, I get this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/Kv8idn14.html

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murat:

it cannot find -lqt-mt

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murat:

any idea?

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SarahEmm:

do you have Qt installed?

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SarahEmm:

with multithreadedness?

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murat:

yes

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jduggan:

what's the 'options' menu key on a regular keyboard?

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SarahEmm:

murat: do you have /usr/lib/libqt-mt.* ?

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jams:

jduggan either m or i

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murat:

SarahEmm under here /usr/qt/3/lib

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murat:

so I think I should expoer LDFLAGS

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murat:

as /usr/qt/3/lib ?

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SarahEmm:

make sure that dir is in /etc/ld.so.conf, then re-run ldconfig

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SarahEmm:

or add it to ldflags, possibly

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Tuju:

what resolution one should run in normal european tv ?

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murat:

SarahEmm it's in /etc/ld.so.conf and I tried ldconfig

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Tuju:

mine fonts are cut from lower edge and some text go out of the screen at the bottom.

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Cardoe:

MindHack: and that is?

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SarahEmm:

murat: And it still doens't work?

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murat:

SarahEmm no, it doesn't

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SarahEmm:

is it also in ldflags?

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murat:

how can I check it SarahEmm

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SarahEmm:

i don't remember offhand... it should be in the makefile?

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murat:

there is no makefile in the source

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murat:

SarahEmm should I ask in #mythtv?

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** kormoc blinks **

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kormoc:

what do you mean there's no makefile in the source?

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SarahEmm:

no, murat

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kormoc:

there's mythtv.pro, it's a qmake file, which is what myth uses for it's make

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SarahEmm:

murat: this isn't a development issue. this is the right channel

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murat:

so the problem is about libavcodec?

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murat:

cause the problem occures in ths dir

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kormoc:

what's the problem?

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murat:

kormoc http://rafb.net/paste/results/Kv8idn14.html

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kormoc:

you don't have qt installed correctly it would seem

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kormoc:

it's missing libqt-mt.so

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murat:

it's in here /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so

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kormoc:

you need to pass that to the make file somehow

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kormoc:

echo $QTDIR

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kormoc:

is it set to /usr/qt/3 ?

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murat:

yes

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kormoc:

can you put the entire make output up somewhere?

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murat:

this error occures before make

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murat:

it's in the ./configure

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kormoc:

ahh, toss the output of the fill ./configure up somewhere?

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murat:

it's coming

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murat:

kormoc http://rafb.net/paste/results/5qqNSO50.html

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kormoc:

murat, if you run ./configure --help, you should see a option to pass to configure for the qtdir, right?

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murat:

kormoc I looked for it but no

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murat:

nothing about qtdir

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murat:

or qt

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kormoc:

hrm

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kormoc:

what about a lib include directory?

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murat:

there is this --libdir-name=LIBNAME search/install libraries in PREFIX/LIBNAME []

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murat:

but if I specify this as qtlib dir

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kormoc:

yeah, you wouldn't want to do that

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murat:

it would give more errors

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Qwell:

So, last night somebody alluded to being able to manually tweak the frequency table directly through mysql... Is there a better/easier way to do this?

[16:34:53]

Qwell:

Basically what's happening, is every channel is "fuzzy". If I take the same cable and connect it to a TV, it's just fine.

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GreyFoxx:

You can do that per channel in the channel editor underm ythtv-setup

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Qwell:

and it worked just fine before I moved.. silly AL cable ;)

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GreyFoxx:

It couldbe that your tuner is being detected incorrectly ? If it thinks it's a wrong tuner it will cause problems

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Qwell:

GreyFoxx: nah, I had it working the other day. It's been off since

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Qwell:

well, maybe

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kormoc:

murat, strange, my ./configure string is rather close to yours, and it works fine for me...

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murat:

kormoc strange problem...

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benp:

..is there any particular reason why my remote is being picked up as a mouse? xpad-mouse.c: Mouse Emulation @ Chinese-made Xbox Controller

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Qwell:

GreyFoxx: ivtv seems to know what card it is

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Qwell:

and I'm not seeing a freq editor in the channel editor

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Qwell:

oh, there it is

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MindHack:

Cardoe: upon upgrade, the "upcoming recordings" page in mythweb was blank, the status page showed no upcoming recordings, the "recording schedules" page showed recordings, with some duplicates, and setting programs to record in mythweb was seemingly ignored "however, they showed as dup's in the schedules recordings page"

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MindHack:

I then downgraded to mythtv-0.20_p11281, and the problems went away "hopefully"

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murat:

kormoc good news for now

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Basstard`:

what's the status for MSI K8NGM2-FID, is it working out of the box?

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murat:

export QTDIR=/usr/qt/3 just before ./configure :D

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kormoc:

huh, shouldn't need to do that if echo $QTDIR was set

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kormoc:

you're not using sudo, are you?

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murat:

yes

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murat:

no I am not

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murat:

oops

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murat:

I am

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murat:

:D

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kormoc:

heh, that explains it

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murat:

I have to

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murat:

:D

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murat:

how ca't I figured this?

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kormoc:

you need to do sudo -x (I think it's -x) to move the env with the sudo session

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murat:

huh

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murat:

kormoc I know but I can

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murat:

sorry

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murat:

I cant

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murat:

coz

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** kormoc blinks **

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murat:

I am packagıng it for a distro

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murat:

called Padus

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MindHack:

heh, yet another distro ;-P

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kormoc:

well, you are doing the same thing with the EXPORT vs the sudo -x

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** kormoc shrugs **

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murat:

sure

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murat:

MindHack this one is cool

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murat:

:d

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murat:

and packaging is very esasy

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murat:

easy*

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Qwell:

hmm, editing the freq seems to do nothing

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Hoxzer:

^^

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benp:

does anyone have a sec to try and give me a hand getting my remote working for the xbox ?

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wirelessdreamer:

anyone know how i could add a back button to the mythtv menu's?

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MindHack:

wirelessdreamer: one that would have the same effect as pressing back on the browser?

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jams:

murat got a url?

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wirelessdreamer:

the same effect as pushing escape

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murat:

jams sure

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murat:

http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/index.html

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benp:

it's been driving me nuts for 4 days now, any help would really be appreciated

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MindHack:

wirelessdreamer: oh, I thought you meant mythweb. Nevermind, I wouldn't know

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murat:

it has NL and ENG lianguage support for now but FR and IT lang support on the way

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wirelessdreamer:

any idea where to start looking for that?

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wirelessdreamer:

i have no problem modifying the code, i just don't know where to start with how big mythtv is

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MindHack:

wirelessdreamer: I have no ideas. I rarely use frontend as it is

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murat:

jams and It doesn't use any known package-managers coz it has its own package manager

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jams:

right

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jams:

odd enough I was just looking at this the other day

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murat:

cool

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wirelessdreamer:

i know it .20 mouse support is now "official" any idea who is in charge of that?

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wirelessdreamer:

*in .20

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murat:

all of you are always wellcome in #pardus

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SarahEmm:

anyone here using a PVR-150/500 with the new captioning support?

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Qwell:

weird... if I ivtv-tune, it works fine

[17:00:23]

Qwell:

How can I tell what freq myth is setting?

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Qwell:

...wtf, it works in myth now

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GreyFoxx:

wirelessdreamer: Noone is really

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GreyFoxx:

And I believe it only works on the menus/widgets that have been switched to use the mythui interface, so it's not everything

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Tuju:

how frontend transfers tv signal from server? with some stream or over NFS or?

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kormoc:

default via a stream

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SarahEmm:

no, it has its own protocol built in, doesn't need nfs

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kormoc:

but can via NFS

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kormoc:

or samba

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SarahEmm:

really?

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Tuju:

SarahEmm, ack. thanks.

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kormoc:

or any other remote filesystem

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SarahEmm:

neermind, listen to kormoc. evidently i'm out of date

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kormoc:

SarahEmm, yeah, the default protocol is basically just a stream

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Tuju:

but it should work without NFS

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Tuju:

ack.

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kormoc:

of course

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Tuju:

good.

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GreyFoxx:

If the file is available on thefilesystem it reads from there, otherwise it uses it's own protocol

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Tuju:

now if I just could figure out why it doesn't show anything. :)

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kormoc:

and thus, if you mount it locally, like /mnt/tv on the server is exported out and on the remote frontend is mounted as /mnt/tv, it will read via nfs or whatever you used to mount it there

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Tuju:

how about online tv – if I just watch channels – it's not recorded anywhere, right?

[17:10:02]

kormoc:

sure is

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kormoc:

can't timeshift if it's not recorded

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Tuju:

mmm.

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Tuju:

so it always records what ever I watch.

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kormoc:

Yes

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Tuju:

ok.

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Tuju:

I also used VLC and it doesn't save anything.

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Tuju:

just pipes /dev/video0 to stream which I receive in client end.

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kormoc:

Sure, but VLC != Myth

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MindHack:

kormoc: Im working on a myth "player" that plays recordings over a mounted filesystem like nfs. I was just going to do without the livetv mode, but now maybe I don't have to :)

[17:11:30]

benp:

does anyone have any experience with lirc and third party remotes?

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kormoc:

MindHack, why? given you can do that with the real frontend...

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fryfrog:

Anyone know who "Sean Donovan, techonfoot.com" is? He wrote the firewire guide on the mythtv wiki

[17:12:29]

MindHack:

real frontend crashes my machine, way too slow and bloated. So what Im doing is writing a wrapper for gmplayer. I use gmplayer to watch recordings as-is, but I miss the commercial skipping

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MindHack:

benp: ask in #lirc?

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Qwell:

GreyFoxx: rm4100?

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benp:

MindHack: there is a #lirc ? :p

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Tuju:

kormoc my watching and recording seems to work but if I start playback, all I get is dark blue screen and sometimes some overlay texts.

[17:15:06]

Tuju:

should VIA MPEG decoder work?

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** kormoc shrugs **

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Tuju:

I get menus from that VIA MPEG composite connector.

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Tuju:

:)

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Tuju:

46% cpu utilization atm.

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Tuju:

shouldn't be a problem.

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Basstard`:

anyone using a vanilla K8NGM2-FID?

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ciphernemo:

I'm so frustrated with installing MythTV. It's become so much of a pain follow one guide or another only to find out that something in the guide is outdated, and whenever I ask for help here, someone helps me a little with one thing only to have someone else tell me it was the wrong way to do something. GRRR. Is there a MythTV 0.20 install guide somewhere out there that is up-to-date and complete? I've googled for da

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ciphernemo:

ys and have given up.

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kormoc:

ciphernemo, the wiki is the best there is, other then the offical install docs

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ciphernemo:

kormoc: ok, I'll try the wiki for a bit

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benp:

i have managed to get mythtv working fine, just can't get the damned remote working so can't really use it! :(

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ciphernemo:

kormoc: What's MythTV *SVN*?

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kormoc:

ciphernemo, SVN (subversion) is the source code version control system myth uses

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kormoc:

ciphernemo, so when they say SVN, they tend to mean trunk, which is the development tree

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ciphernemo:

ah, makes sense, thx

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benp:

argh, this is driving me nuts

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benp:

from everything i have read, it should be working fine !

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jeffmeden:

anyone here using an ati usb remote?

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jeffmeden:

i am having nothing but trouble

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Basstard`:

it's no trouble if you expect it to not work

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jeffmeden:

good one

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jeffmeden:

i've managed to get it set up in lircd but now every button registers twice in mythtv

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fryfrog:

ciphernemo: mythtv is hard :(

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** SarahEmm agrees. trying to weigh dropping in something commercial instead of revamping my myth install... **

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benp:

could anyone point me in the direction of where to get some help for a third party xbox dvd remote been playing about with lirc and additional modules for days but had no luck, read everything i can find on google but nothing helped, really frustrating me now

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SarahEmm:

probably just stick with myth. more flexible..

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octan:

hi all

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octan:

can anyone visit this site?

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octan:

http://mythtv.org/modules.php?name=Downloads& . . . &lid=131

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kormoc:

octan, sure, why not?

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octan:

i cant

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kormoc:

it's not private or anything

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octan:

i get this message on my screen

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octan:

XML Parsing Error: not well-formed

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octan:

Location: chrome://global/content/commonDialog.xul

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octan:

Line Number 1, Column 9:ow.close();

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octan:

--------^

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kormoc:

that's a error in your local mozilla/firefox install

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ShockValue:

does the myth transcoding daemon need to be running on the frontend, or the backend machine? (i have it running on the frontend, but it still says it cant find it)

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kormoc:

chrome is the code for the user interface in all mozilla/firefox based browsers

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octan:

ok

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octan:

i restarted firefox

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octan:

and it worked

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octan:

:)

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murat:

kormoc it's been one hour and still compiling :D

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murat:

and no error so far

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fryfrog:

ShockValue: I think it runs on the *backend*

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ShockValue:

hrm, ok.. let me see if i can get it going there

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ciphernemo:

Ok, I'm having build issues with MythTV 2.0 tarball (yes, I know the difference between cvs version and tarball, so no I want to use the tarball). I've downloaded it, stored it in my own directory /usr/packages and have extracted it into mythtv-0.20 dir. Inside that dir, I did a #./configure ; qmake mythtv.pro ; make ; sudo make install. It never created much in /usr/share/mythtv at all (no /programs /database, etc.)

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ciphernemo:

, but I have stuff in the dir I extracted the tarball. Can someone help walk me thorugh a build and clean-up whatever junk I already have on my linux box from my previous attempts?

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kormoc:

ciphernemo, not really, as there's no un-install when building from source by hand

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kormoc:

ciphernemo, and it's myth 0.20 not myth 2.0

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ciphernemo:

kromoc: yup, typo on first version number

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kormoc:

ciphernemo, and what you did installed into /usr/local rather then /usr likely

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Kabutor:

After upgrade to myth 0.20 and mythvideo 0.20 using mythvideo in gallery mode If I dont have a Image for a movie, it didnt show the letters, as it didi before.. any idea where to look?

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ciphernemo:

kormac: I have absolutely no mythtv folder in /usr/local

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kormoc:

ciphernemo, well, if you look at the ./configure output, it does tell you where it will install into

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kormoc:

and make install should have outputted every file it copied and all that jazz

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Kabutor:

did I have to exec anything to update the database?

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ciphernemo:

kormoc: where would I find those files? psssstt.. I'm not a developer, and other than lame, mythtv is the only thing I've built in linux

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kormoc:

ciphernemo, when you ran those steps, it outted the info to the console

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Ediehow:

J-e-f-f-A: you around?

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Kabutor:

I have the log with some "Imagecache miss for: No cover"

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ciphernemo:

kormoc: correct, that was yesterday, the system has been rebooted since this, and I did this in a sudo -i terminal

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kormoc:

welp, you can read the configure.log in the directory, but you'll have to do some digging or just do make install again and see where it puts it all again

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Ediehow:

man, the usb-uirt forum is USELESS

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ciphernemo:

kormoc: I do thave a configure.log, so I'll look there first

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ciphernemo:

kormoc: let me try to save myself some time... do you happen to know of links to binaries for 0.20?

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kambei:

Is there any sort of decent "TV-friendly" web browsing software?

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kormoc:

ciphernemo, nopers, sorry

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kormoc:

kambei, mythbrowser

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benp:

..assumably nobody has encountered the same problem as me

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kambei:

kormoc: But doesn't that require you to pre-select the sites you wish to view?

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Ediehow:

err mythweb?

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kormoc:

kambei, not sure, I didn't think so

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kambei:

kormoc: I'm in my first month of Myth usership, so I may not have my facts straight.

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Kabutor:

where is mythvideo cvs svn ?

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kormoc:

svn.mythtv.org

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robert83a1:

hello, I installed mythtv on fedora core 5 using this guide http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#capture , now I've connected the PVR-150 card with the antenna cable, and I've set ivctl to p0, and pal settings, and I only get static, so I tried to look for that ptune-ui.pl but it's nowhere on fc5 , then I decieded I setup this thing with Mythsetup, so I did, selected the correct card card type : mpeg-2 encoder card (PVR-x50), and I

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kormoc:

and it's svn or cvs, not both

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Kabutor:

thx

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ciphernemo:

kormoc: apparently there's a 0.20 binary for my distro (ubuntu) at http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1

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ciphernemo:

kormoc: going to give-up on the mythtv build as its broken as far as I'm concerned for the ofifical tarball... I had multiple ppl help to no avail, and I've had no problem building something simple like lame

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defi____:

hi all

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defi____:

anyone have this problem; when I use the OSD while watching tv it causes the frontend to die suddenly, any ideas?

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mezoko:

Hi

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mezoko:

Is mythtv able to record a audio stream from line-in?

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mezoko:

or is there a program that would do that?

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fryfrog:

cat /dev/something > file?

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Ad:

is it possible to adjust recording volume individualy for a specific channel

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mezoko:

fryfrog: but if I did that what type of file would it record as?

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fryfrog:

depends on what you are pulling audio from

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fryfrog:

if you have a pvrX50 and switch it to the right inputs, then do "cat /dev/video0" you'll end up with a blank, mpeg2 file with audio in it

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Ad:

the recordings comes from a pvr 500

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fryfrog:

ie, black screen and audio

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fryfrog:

but this would be one time only type thing

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fryfrog:

ie, its all manual

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fryfrog:

you'd need to then prolly pull the audio from the video some how

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mezoko:

fryfrog: the line in

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fryfrog:

mezoko: line in on your *sound card*?

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mezoko:

fryfrog: yes

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fryfrog:

what is your goal?

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firefly2442:

Are there instructions online somewhere for setting up the Alsa mixer for analog sound?

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fryfrog:

continued, repeat recording of audio on a schedule?

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fryfrog:

or do you just need a quickie?

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mezoko:

my goal is to record audio for a satalite radio at a give time

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mezoko:

fryfrog: a schedule

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fryfrog:

firefly2442: i don't think there is a guide, cause that just happens :p

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fryfrog:

mezoko: humm, i honestly have no idea how you'd do that in myth

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robert83a1:

hi, I've also did the cat /dev/video0 test.mpg thing, and ended up with a file that has static in it , like no channel selected

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robert83a1:

I wonder how I could scan for channels?

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mezoko:

fryfrog: is there an other program that might be able to do it

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fryfrog:

mezoko: I've always hoped someone would make an "MythFM" with recording, but i doubt anyone publishes radio schedules to grab

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firefly2442:

fryfrog, my sound is not in synch

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firefly2442:

fryfrog, TvTime works fine though

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robert83a1:

and I also wonder why won't mythtv scan find any chinels for me

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robert83a1:

channels

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defi____:

anyone have this problem; when I use the OSD while watching tv it causes the frontend to die suddenly, any ideas?

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mezoko:

right now my dad uses a windowblow based program, but I'm looking at buying a media center pc and if I can record his radio on it, he'd be one happy son of a father

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fryfrog:

firefly2442: when you say it isn't in sync, does that mean its a few seconds behind? Does it continue making sound if you pause the video?

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mezoko:

wait, that should be father of a son

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firefly2442:

fryfrog, yes, it continues sound after I stop watching live tv

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mezoko:

fryfrog: I wrote a script at one point in time for linux thought it wasn't very good, it did't always record the full time, some of the problem was wav only supports 4GB file sizes

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fryfrog:

firefly2442: And now, I bet you are using a bttv type card (ie, not mpeg2) and you run audio into the "line in" on your sound card?

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firefly2442:

fryfrog, it's grabbing the sound from the tvtuner and sending it to the motherboard audio via a cable

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kormoc:

I didn't think wav had a file size limit, as it's just raw data

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firefly2442:

fryfrog, no bttv card but yess, line in :)

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fryfrog:

firefly2442: which means you should simply pop into alsamixer or alsamixergui and turn that volume source up, then mute it

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kormoc:

you sure the 4gb isn't a filesystem limit rather then a wav limit?

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mezoko:

kormoc: no it was a wav limt

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mezoko:

has I had files over 4G

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mezoko:

I was using reiserfs at the time

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kormoc:

huh, that makes very little sense, but fair nuff

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fryfrog:

mezoko: scheduling a recording of line in would be *trivial* outside of myth

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fryfrog:

if you don't need a gui or anything

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fryfrog:

simply setup a cronjob to start recording at X time and stop at & time

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Kabutor:

how can I blank the mythvideo metadata? is it in mythconverg db?

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jduggan:

hi all, i have a wintv pci card, with line in and line out, am i right in thinking that i need to put line out of the tv card to line in of sound card? im having problems with sound through mythtv

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fryfrog:

you could use any sort of program you want, from "cat /dev/dsp" to a real recording proggy or something

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fryfrog:

but it wouldn't have a nice ui

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mezoko:

fryfrog: but with /dev/dsp it probably can't filter out other audio than just the line-in

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fryfrog:

mezoko: yeah, sorry i was just using an example. I honestly don't know what you'd use or point to it, but there *has* to be something like "arecord" maybe?

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fryfrog:

(i know "aplay" exists, why not arecord?

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fryfrog:

but it'll probably boil down to starting a program, feeding it some params such as amount of time to record, file to record to, what to record from

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kormoc:

cause arecord does exist?

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fryfrog:

You could probably just run a constant stream into an mp3 encoder and then even broadcast it

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fryfrog:

kormoc: does it? I was just guessing :)

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fryfrog:

holey shit, it does!

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kormoc:

it comes with aplay :P

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fryfrog:

i rule :)

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fryfrog:

mezoko: you'd prolly even be able to do wav -> mp3 on the fly, that doesn't use up much cpu time now a days

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mezoko:

fryfrog: do you have any idea how to dot hat?

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fryfrog:

so you won't end up with 4G wav files

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fryfrog:

mezoko: I can give you a meta idea, but not a detailed step by step. sorry

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mezoko:

fryfrog: yeah, do you know how to pipe that has I've tried without any look

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jduggan:

hi all, i have a wintv pci card, with line in and line out, am i right in thinking that i need to put line out of the tv card to line in of sound card? im having problems with sound through mythtv when i 'pause' tv the sound keeps playing so obviously when i 'play' again the sound is where it originally is not where it should be paused at, anyone able togive me some info on this please?

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mezoko:

fryfrog: ok I'll take the meta idea

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fryfrog:

something like "arecord <all your options> | lame -options appropriate for lame > file.mp3

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fryfrog:

you could throw in some fancy `date` stuff to get a date/time stamped .mp3 file

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firefly2442:

fryfrog, which source do I need to change? http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/firefly2442/Untitled.jpg

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fryfrog:

firefly2442: depends on what you have it hooked up to :/

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fryfrog:

oh

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fryfrog:

obviuos

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fryfrog:

the one that says "rec"

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fryfrog:

line :)

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fryfrog:

the "rec" means that is where it is pulling audio from (you can only do one at a time, afaik)

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Kabutor:

is it possible that mytvideo fails when it reads the coverfile value in the db in spanish as ->" Sin carátula"

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firefly2442:

fryfrog, ahh ok, lemme see if it worked :)

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fryfrog:

nice level of 3 is lower than normal, right?

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kormoc:

it's nicer then 0, yes

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fryfrog:

k

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fryfrog:

i always forget how it goes :)

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fryfrog:

-19 is *zomg so important*

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kormoc:

well, it's all relitive anyway

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fryfrog:

and 19 is "only gets time after *everything*" right?

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kormoc:

mostly, yes

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fryfrog:

k

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fryfrog:

and zomg, my *firewire* TNTHD recording is 800mb!!!

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fryfrog:

i think it just *might* be working!!!

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** SarahEmm wishes the cable company here enabled the FW port :/ **

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fryfrog:

My cable company is so duh-tarded too :p

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fryfrog:

I called and asked them to swap my HD-DVR for a pair of HD tuners

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SarahEmm:

but in the US they have to enable the FW port, don't they?

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fryfrog:

they are a bit cheaper and they'd let me record 2 streams :)

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fryfrog:

SarahEmm: yeah, but they are allowed to use 5C on content if they wish

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SarahEmm:

ahh

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fryfrog:

The guy showed up with TWO HD DVRS!!!

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SarahEmm:

here they just turn the ports off

[18:42:14]

fryfrog:

"Sorry, they didn't have any HD Tuners"

[18:42:20]

BULLE:

5C ?

[18:42:26]

kormoc:

encryption

[18:42:26]

fryfrog:

"So i'm going to take your 1 HD-DVR and give you 2 *more* HD-DVR

[18:42:30]

fryfrog:

yar, encryption

[18:42:38]

fryfrog:

mine doesn't seem to use it on any of the channels so far

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BULLE:

fryfrog: but for the price of 2 tuners ?

[18:42:48]

fryfrog:

Discovery HD, TNT HD both come in fine

[18:42:50]

fryfrog:

BULLE: yeah

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BULLE:

fryfrog: ok deal then =)

[18:43:06]

fryfrog:

BULLE: but the stupid HD DVRs have hard drives in them and they run *really* hot

[18:43:26]

fryfrog:

yeah, nice deal

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fryfrog:

but i can't *use* them as DVRs

[18:43:34]

fryfrog:

and evne *worse*!!!

[18:43:39]

fryfrog:

the damn things have TWO TUNERS in each one

[18:43:44]

SarahEmm:

why is that so bad?

[18:43:46]

fryfrog:

but afaik, there is no way to use both over firewire :(

[18:43:48]

SarahEmm:

ahh

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BULLE:

fryfrog: why cant you use the as DVRs ?

[18:44:50]

fryfrog:

if i setup the DVRs to record shows, when *myth* wanted to record a show it might get over ridden

[18:45:05]

fryfrog:

ie, myth starts recording over firewire on channel 841

[18:45:19]

fryfrog:

then, half way through the HD DVR says "oh, i should record scrubs" and switches to channel 803

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BULLE:

fryfrog: ah

[18:46:06]

jduggan:

can somebody help me with my sound configuration please? im having a little trouble? audio is always a few seconds behind, and when i pause sound keeps going so when i play again its not where i left off

[18:46:10]

fryfrog:

but at least i have 2 of them

[18:46:14]

SarahEmm:

ahh

[18:46:14]

BULLE:

fryfrog: be happy you have firewire at all, here i have never seen a stb with firewire

[18:46:24]

fryfrog:

hehe

[18:46:26]

SarahEmm:

fryfrog: what's the myth advantage over the built in DVRs?

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** SarahEmm is still debating myth over cableco DVR **

[18:46:41]

kormoc:

jduggan, mute the playback of the line-in and set the capture to line-in

[18:46:49]

kormoc:

jduggan, the mythtv docs cover setting that up

[18:46:51]

fryfrog:

SarahEmm: have you ever seen anyone besides tivo's interface for DVR?

[18:47:04]

SarahEmm:

no...

[18:47:06]

fryfrog:

SarahEmm: but there are a few other advantages :)

[18:47:09]

SarahEmm:

heh, that good? :)

[18:47:14]

SarahEmm:

i'd miss mythweb

[18:47:24]

fryfrog:

1) My mythbackend has 1.2TB of space, the comcast has like 80G

[18:47:24]

SarahEmm:

and being able to grab tv to watch on flights, that's my biggest one

[18:47:32]

fryfrog:

ummm

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BULLE:

fryfrog: you cant just access the hd of the comcast dvr ?

[18:47:55]

BULLE:

fryfrog: or, i guess you can, but not legaly, withouth breaking it open

[18:47:56]

fryfrog:

2) I can record shows over firewire and watch them on my upstairs computer mythtv *or* tv

[18:48:14]

fryfrog:

BULLE: no, the comcast box only supports 130G max anyway

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mezoko:

fryfrog: I found how to record directly to a mp3

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fryfrog:

mezoko: awsome :)

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SarahEmm:

hrm, yeah...

[18:49:44]

** SarahEmm is leaning towards building new BE/FEs based on a PVR-500 and faster FEs, and migrating to that **

[18:49:56]

SarahEmm:

seems to still be a lot of advantages over commercial ones. :)

[18:50:00]

fryfrog:

On tuesday, my PVR500 should arrive too :)

[18:50:26]

** SarahEmm has one, but it's been useless since i came out because of no CC support.. it's finally there, in theory. i should test that out tomorrow to make sure it actually works **

[18:50:52]

fryfrog:

CC support?

[18:50:55]

fryfrog:

closed caption?

[18:51:03]

mezoko:

fryfrog: now I just got to leave my radio on few about two weeks and emulate recording my dads radio

[18:51:10]

mezoko:

if it works he'd be happy

[18:51:20]

mezoko:

but I just hope i won't interfere with mythtv

[18:51:26]

fryfrog:

hehe

[18:51:33]

fryfrog:

as long as you don't use line in for mythtv?

[18:51:48]

mezoko:

fryfrog: well I'm assuming I won't I don't have mythtv box yet

[18:51:51]

SarahEmm:

yeah frank_

[18:51:54]

SarahEmm:

err yeah fryfrog

[18:52:11]

SarahEmm:

fryfrog: the -250 had good support, the -150 and -500 have sucky support. in theory the new driver works around that tho

[18:52:14]

mezoko:

fryfog, you just plug the attenia into the capture card right?

[18:52:27]

fryfrog:

mezoko: what?

[18:52:32]

fryfrog:

SarahEmm: ah, I didn't realize that

[18:52:39]

Ediehow:

hi fryfrog

[18:52:44]

fryfrog:

SarahEmm: now I'll have a spare PVR500 and a spare PVR250 :)

[18:52:48]

mezoko:

fryfrog: for tv watching you just got to plug the tv attenia into the tv card right?

[18:52:51]

Ediehow:

can someone help me with my stb? i can only get blaster to correctnly send "info

[18:52:59]

fryfrog:

mezoko: are you talking about *me* or *you*?

[18:53:02]

SarahEmm:

fryfrog: why spare?

[18:53:11]

fryfrog:

SarahEmm: cause now that firewire works, I don't need them

[18:53:17]

SarahEmm:

ahhh right :)

[18:53:20]

fryfrog:

and I have a pair of air2pc cards to record *just* the HD channels

[18:53:21]

fryfrog:

as well

[18:53:30]

** SarahEmm has a PVR-500 sitting around, and a bttv-based card that's been working with mythtv for.. err.. a lot of years **

[18:53:30]

fryfrog:

I"ll prolly build my parents a myth box

[18:53:52]

fryfrog:

i use my bttv cards to stop myself from rolling backwards in my rolly chair :)

[18:54:02]

Ediehow:

can i find out who made a mythtv wiki page?

[18:54:10]

SarahEmm:

lol fryfrog

[18:54:14]

SarahEmm:

fryfrog: hey, they work well :)

[18:54:18]

kormoc:

Ediehow, click history?

[18:54:48]

Ediehow:

Lozzo81

[18:54:52]

Ediehow:

anyone know their email?

[18:55:04]

jduggan:

kormoc: where do i set the capture to line-in?

[18:55:12]

jduggan:

in mythtv itself?

[18:55:26]

kormoc:

jduggan, no, in your mixer settings, usually via amix

[18:56:41]

jduggan:

hmm

[18:57:07]

firefly2442:

I'm still having the same problem as jduggan with the sound being out of synch :X

[18:57:23]

firefly2442:

I followed the instructions in the manul for running the mixer commands

[18:57:51]

firefly2442:

jduggan, do you have an analog audio in?

[18:59:35]

jduggan:

on the tv card?

[18:59:57]

firefly2442:

jduggan, yeah a cable going from your tvtuner to your audio input?

[19:00:03]

jduggan:

its an old hauppauge wintv pci card

[19:00:08]

jduggan:

yea

[19:00:10]

jduggan:

thats right

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firefly2442:

jduggan, yeah, I'm having the same problem as you, were you able to figure out these mixer settings? I'm still confused...

[19:02:32]

jduggan:

well

[19:02:40]

jduggan:

i managed to mute the line-in feed

[19:03:02]

jduggan:

because once i started mythfrontend i could quit the application but i would still hear the real-time audio

[19:03:18]

kormoc:

that doesn't sound right

[19:03:23]

jduggan:

but now i start mythfrontend and it has no audio at all =]

[19:03:28]

kormoc:

you should just need to run the commands the docs say and that's it

[19:03:42]

jduggan:

kormoc: indeed, that's what i've tried

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firefly2442:

me too

[19:03:51]

kormoc:

and they assume you have it plugged into your line-in, if you have it in your mic or other source, it won't work right

[19:04:23]

kormoc:

jduggan, you sure myth is recording from the right card?

[19:04:24]

firefly2442:

green output to blue input?

[19:04:27]

jduggan:

kormoc: i have line-out(tv card)->line-in(soundblaster audigy)

[19:04:36]

jduggan:

kormoc: there's only one card in this box

[19:04:44]

kormoc:

firefly2442, colors don't mean much, it's better to check the symbols

[19:05:14]

kormoc:

I donno...

[19:05:17]

firefly2442:

kormoc, yep, looks correct

[19:05:28]

kormoc:

I know I've done it before just fine via those commands

[19:05:36]

kormoc:

so something is a little strange on your setup

[19:05:40]

firefly2442:

It's strange because TvTime works perfectly

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kormoc:

not at all

[19:06:06]

kormoc:

tvtime just unmutes the playback of the line-in

[19:06:11]

kormoc:

which myth can't do

[19:06:33]

firefly2442:

ahh I see

[19:07:05]

firefly2442:

lemme try running the commands again

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jduggan:

so basically, sound comes in on line in real-time which is muted because it's out of sync so when u'r playing tv its playing with the processed video and sound?

[19:07:30]

jduggan:

which should be in sync?

[19:07:30]

kormoc:

in theory, yes

[19:07:36]

** kormoc nods **

[19:07:53]

jduggan:

ok

[19:07:56]

jduggan:

well the line-in is muted now

[19:09:30]

firefly2442:

so you want the line-in to be muted, but still record from it?

[19:09:37]

kormoc:

yes

[19:09:41]

kormoc:

there's two mixers

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firefly2442:

sorry, I know zilch about audio ;)

[19:09:44]

kormoc:

one for playback

[19:09:47]

kormoc:

and one for recording

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kormoc:

so you want the playback of line-in to be muted

[19:10:03]

kormoc:

but the recording to be unmuted and set to line-in

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kormoc:

in alsamixer, I think it's f4 to switch to capture settings and f3 to switch to playback settings

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robert83a1:

hi, I'm using latest mythtv from atrpms on fc5, with hauppauge pvr-150 card, and in europe, selected europe-west, and pal, and scanning for channels returns nothing. What could be still wrong ?

[19:14:14]

jduggan:

kormoc: in alsamixer 'line' in capture isnt muted but its just ---- like i dont have an option to up the volumes almost like it doesnt exist? in playback its set to mute

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jduggan:

kormoc: Line LiveDrive{1,2} arent related are they?

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firefly2442:

jduggan, is your line-in red? under capture?

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firefly2442:

the only thing showing any volume under view capture is "captur"

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jduggan:

firefly2442: it's just called 'Line' in my alsamixer?

[19:17:12]

firefly2442:

jduggan, yeah

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firefly2442:

jduggan, my mistake

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firefly2442:

mine says captur then L R and they're all in red and don't show any volume at all

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arbrandes:

How would I go about changing the capture resolution of a PVR-150?

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jduggan:

firefly2442: the ones that say CAPTUR in mine are FRONT, SURROUND, CAPTURE and MIX MONO (which has no volume field)

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firefly2442:

what's the different between aux and line?

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firefly2442:

now I can't hear anything under mythtv or tvtime

[19:26:48]

firefly2442:

Eesh, why can't this just be a little easier :)

[19:27:53]

Basstard`:

no one using a MSI K8NGM2-FID ?

[19:28:05]

Anduin:

robert83a1: It isn't a fallback channel, and your text was truncated.

[19:28:09]

firefly2442:

Do I need to change the audio from /dev/asp to ALSA:default in the settings?

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jduggan:

firefly2442: yes you should

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firefly2442:

jduggan, did you get yours to work?

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jduggan:

im at a point where my linein is muted, but it mythtv plays mp3's to play but i get no audio now with tv

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jduggan:

erm

[19:30:13]

jduggan:

i'll rephrase that

[19:30:40]

jduggan:

im at a point where my linein is muted, but mythtv plays mp3's fine sounds normal but i get no audio now with tv

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jduggan:

woohoo

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jduggan:

ok i didnt fix it

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firefly2442:

got it!/

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jduggan:

kormoc: i check the term output that i started mythfrontend from and i get a warning 'Opening ALSA audio device 'default'' AudioOutput Warning: Mixer attach error -2: No such file or directory Check Mixer Name in setup: ' '

[19:34:54]

jduggan:

basically, i take it it cant find the sound card?

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robert83a1:

Anduin : me sorry

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kormoc:

jduggan, it can't find the mixer, which is different then the sound card, but yeah, you need to fix that

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firefly2442:

gonna try a restart, brb

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Anduin:

robert83a1: use a listing source to get channels rather than the scanner

[19:40:34]

robert83a1:

Anduin : I live in Serbia, do you think that there is a chence that there is a listing source for this country cable ?

[19:40:44]

robert83a1:

(chance)

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firefly2442:

it seems to be working now !?

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jduggan:

kormoc: what's the difference between mixer and sound card?

[19:42:48]

firefly2442:

I think tvtime was using /dev/dsp and when it exits it wasn't "letting go"

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jduggan:

what exactly is a mixer?

[19:43:01]

jduggan:

can u explain

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kormoc:

jduggan, the mixer is what controls volume and similar stuff like that

[19:43:17]

firefly2442:

time for a test....

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jduggan:

ic

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kormoc:

jduggan, /dev/sound/dsp is a sound card, /dev/sound/mixer is the mixer

[19:43:45]

jduggan:

ok

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murat:

in order to use mythtv, do I have to setup mysql database for nythtv?

[19:44:01]

jduggan:

wonder why it cant connect to the mixer

[19:44:08]

jduggan:

kormoc: perms on the device?

[19:44:28]

kormoc:

jduggan, perhaps

[19:44:32]

robert83a1:

if I want to test this thing, if the card is actualy working

[19:44:42]

murat:

kormoc in order to use mythtv, do I have to setup mysql database for nythtv?

[19:44:45]

jduggan:

altho, actually it says no file or directory?

[19:44:46]

robert83a1:

I just checked on my tv the sound system is BG, then if I'm in PAL... that makes it PAL-BG ?

[19:45:06]

kormoc:

murat, yes

[19:45:12]

robert83a1:

also I see the frequence if I use ivtv-tune and config that frequency I should see the same channel if all is fine?

[19:45:17]

kormoc:

jduggan, yeah, that would be a problem

[19:45:26]

murat:

kormoc is there any doc to configure it ?

[19:45:40]

kormoc:

murat, on the website, yes

[19:45:45]

murat:

ok

[19:45:47]

firefly2442:

murat, phpmyadmin might help you

[19:46:12]

jduggan:

kormoc: do i change this in 'Passthrough Output Device: ' setting in mythfrontend settings?

[19:46:33]

jduggan:

actually

[19:46:35]

kormoc:

jduggan, uhh, I think it's under mixer

[19:46:45]

jduggan:

i see a 'mixer device' section =]

[19:47:35]

murat:

firefly2442 rpm or deb packages do this for the user or users have to configure it on their own?

[19:48:08]

jduggan:

kormoc: i dont have a /dev/sound/ i have a /dev/snd/ which have controlCxxx and similar files? no mixer file there there though?

[19:48:29]

kormoc:

jduggan, those are alsa devices, /dev/sound is oss devices

[19:48:34]

firefly2442:

murat, well, if you are running debian/ubuntu then you can just sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin

[19:48:41]

firefly2442:

murat, you mean for installing it?

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kormoc:

jduggan, you can use them, but I don't recall what you need to put in the mixer box to do so

[19:49:10]

jduggan:

kormoc: what 'mixer device' do i set in mythfrontend then?

[19:49:13]

jduggan:

for alsa

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kormoc:

jduggan, re-read what I said

[19:49:30]

jduggan:

ok

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murat:

firefly2442 I mean when you install mythtv from db or rpm, you should configure mysql for it on your own or these packages do it automatically

[19:49:45]

murat:

?

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firefly2442:

murat, I think they take care of the database automatically, I installed from source though so I might be wrong

[19:50:37]

murat:

ok, thanks

[19:51:04]

firefly2442:

murat, you can always check by installing phpmyadmin and logging in to see if the database exists

[19:51:11]

firefly2442:

murat, or use mysql via the commandline (harder)

[19:51:28]

jduggan:

kormoc: doubt that mixer error is stopping sound though huh? since it play's mp3's n that fine

[19:51:36]

jduggan:

and divx movies also

[19:51:43]

kormoc:

donno

[19:51:46]

kormoc:

it might, it might now

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murat:

firefly2442 I have no idea about mysql so I will try phpmyadmin

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jduggan:

hmm

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jduggan:

so i need to find the alsa mixer device

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word:

Umm..my 2 slave backends get mythtv from packages..but my master gets it from compiling source...a recent update i guess changed from protocol 30 to 31? and uh..i was wondering if i would have to recompile mythtv and mythplugins..anyone know?

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kormoc:

yes

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kormoc:

you need them all to be the same protocol version

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robert83a1:

YEHHHAAA

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robert83a1:

i managed to get a BLACK and WHITE screen

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Zider:

wohoo

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robert83a1:

but I don't know why, lspci -v showed my card correctly recognised

[20:09:32]

robert83a1:

honest

[20:09:47]

robert83a1:

but for some reason I had to do a options ivtv tuner=50 (right now)

[20:09:55]

robert83a1:

reboot, and works....

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robert83a1:

why?

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jduggan:

kormoc: do i specify to mythtv where to capture the audio? or does it figure it out?

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robert83a1:

on some forums I saw that it's tuner=38 for a PVR150, how can I check the ID of my card ? Hauppauge?

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jduggan:

kormoc, like to capture from line-in, i havent passed that arg to mythrv anywhere

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kormoc:

jduggan, when you setup the card, you setup where to capture there

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jduggan:

ok, what option should i have passed?

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jduggan:

for line in

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jduggan:

just alsa:default?

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kormoc:

can't do that for recording

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kormoc:

you should have given it a oss device

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kormoc:

but you don't have any

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kormoc:

so you need to enable the oss emulation

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jduggan:

in the kernel?

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kormoc:

and I can't really walk you though that, perhaps someone else can

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kormoc:

aye

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jduggan:

ok

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jduggan:

well ive built kernels plenty of times

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jduggan:

but this is a default debian 2.6 kernel

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jduggan:

was hoping i wouldnt have to go that far

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jaymode:

I compiled mythtv from source and am getting segmentation faults and I would like to completely remove mythtv and plugins and try again, any help on how to do this?

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jduggan:

jaymode: make uninstall in the root dir of the mythtv package?

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A-d:

does anyone know if it's possible to adjust the recording volume in mythtv

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claybo:

Hey everyone. XvMC uses more CPU with 0.20 for me than libmpeg2. XvMC no longer can play back HD content completely smoothly for me, but had no problems with that in 0.19. Is anyone else experiencing something like this, or maybe know a fix so I can get HD playback to work properly again in Myth? Thanks for any help.

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jaymode:

jduggan: this would be the directory where I unpacked the source to correct? if so I get an error "No rule to make target uninstall. stop"

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jduggan:

jaymode: ok then, cant help you

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jaymode:

jduggan: thanks for trying

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jduggan:

you could read the make files

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jduggan:

see what it copies where

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jduggan:

then manually rm -rf

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jduggan:

kormoc: so, basically, without OSS emulation in the kernel, you cant ever capture TV with audio? is this correct?

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nordle:

hi again, Im sooo near to getting epg setup :) Here's the deal, auto scan for UK channels results in none viewable, so I have to import channels.conf BUT the channels.conf is not in the right format for xmltv to get channel info. So I have my channels.conf imported and the UK generic scan. The only why I can see to get epg to work is to manually update the xmltvid on the channels from my .conf with the id's from the xmtv import, then run mythfilld

[20:18:03]

robert83a1:

hello, anyone played recently with other ivtv options ? tda9887=0 this causes an error, but it's supposedly the cure for a black and white screen.

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achew22:

does anyone know how to fix "mythbackend: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libmythavformat-0.20.so.0: undefined symbol: av_adler32_update" it does it with mythfrontend too

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ShockValue:

weirdness.. ive compiled lirc, and i have serial ports active according to dmesg.. but i dont get a /dev/lirc<anything>

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ShockValue:

achew22: what distro?

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achew22:

gentoo

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achew22:

I got it from portage

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robert83a1:

problem solved, reboot :)

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ShockValue:

try looking up revdep-rebuild. that will go through all the library dependencies and see what is missing

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jduggan:

what do people use as the audio capture device in mythtv-setup?

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Basstard`:

does anyone know what dist/etc i should use to get K8NGM2-FID to work from the get go?

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nordle:

Basstard`: Any distro with a recent kernel should be able to handle that, your looking for something with >=2.6.17 kernel probably.

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murat:

can somebody look at this http://rafb.net/paste/results/L7PIuX25.html

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firefly2442:

murat, looks like it can't find the database, did you try phpmyadmin?

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firefly2442:

murat, http://localhost/phpmyadmin/

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firefly2442:

does this load for you?

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murat:

yes

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murat:

and I tried to do somethings

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murat:

but doesnt work

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firefly2442:

murat, can you login?

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nordle:

Basstard`: Having looked at this http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=57791 it looks like my guess was wrong, as it worked with suse 10.0 on a 2.6.13 kernel. So ANY of the 2.6 based distros in the last 6 mths should install it fine. But check the link for any gotchas such as the built in gigabit nic etc.

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murat:

firefly2442 it says #1045 – Access denied for user 'murat'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

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firefly2442:

murat, try root and no password

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firefly2442:

murat, or root and your root password

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murat:

I can login with mu username and password

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firefly2442:

murat, ok, goto privileges

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jduggan:

firefly2442: what audio playback device are you using?

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jduggan:

/dev/dsp?

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firefly2442:

jduggan, lemme check, hold on

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murat:

firefly2442 and then?

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firefly2442:

jduggan, audio output is /dev/dsp while the passthrough is ALSA:somethingorother

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firefly2442:

murat, what user accounts do you have listed?

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firefly2442:

jduggan, make sure you change the passthrough from the default to ALSA

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murat:

firefly2442 two mythtv and two root

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firefly2442:

murat, ok good, try running mythtvsetup and make sure it can connect to the database

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firefly2442:

murat, "mythtv-setup"

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murat:

same messages

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firefly2442:

murat, if you run mythtv-setup it should ask you for database connection stuff

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murat:

yes

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firefly2442:

murat, are you sure you're running mythtv and not mythtv-setup ?

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firefly2442:

sorry, mythtv-setup and no mythtv

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murat:

when I give this command mythtv-setup in the command line, it's same with mythtv. Also mythtv tries to configure mysql

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firefly2442:

murat, are you running it as the mythtv user not yourself?

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firefly2442:

murat, maybe try that?

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niktaris_lap:

mythtv doesn't look up my music cd's anymore. Am I missing something ?

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TinheadNed:

'lo

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murat:

firefly2442 I am running it as mythtv

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TinheadNed:

anyone had a problem where everything plays well except primetime stuff? stuff like robin hood and jane eyre have jerky audio

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TinheadNed:

all my other stuff is fine

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TinheadNed:

this is 0.20 btw

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firefly2442:

murat, is your mythbackend running?

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murat:

firefly2442 I think I am being nerve-breaking but

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murat:

but I dont how to do it

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murat:

:(

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murat:

is it enough to give the command "mythbackend"

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firefly2442:

murat, well, I'm not sure if it automatically starts since you used a package, but yes, try that

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murat:

firefly2442 I think the problem is this line QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded

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Anduin:

murat: Install the Qt MySQL driver

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firefly2442:

shouldn't the package take care of those dependencies?

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Anduin:

A good one would

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murat:

what if I say the person who packaged mythtv is me, does it make sense?

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murat:

:D

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Anduin:

Yeah, that would make sense

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murat:

hehehe

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murat:

firefly2442 ok it works now :D

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murat:

sorry for taking your time

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firefly2442:

cool, I should have known that ;)

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firefly2442:

guess I need to brush up on my reading skills :X

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mezoko:

Would mythtv take advantage of a tv tuner mpeg2 onboard encoder?

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murat:

:D

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Anduin:

mezoko: Is there a linux driver for it?

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jduggan:

firefly2442: you got it working yet?

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mezoko:

Anduin: for the card or the onbaord encoding?

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Anduin:

mezoko: If it were really structured as you suggest, certainly both (but myth itself isn't going to feed a non-hardware input through another interface)

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murat:

firefly2442 now it says "could not connect to the master backend server"

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firefly2442:

murat, ok, now make sure you mythbackend is running :)

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firefly2442:

jduggan, well, I can record stuff, the audio is kinda junky, but when I copy nuv files to another machine there is no audio

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firefly2442:

jduggan, but when I view them on the same machine with mythtv it seems to work...

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mezoko:

Anduin: that card is to work with I think it something like teh ittv driver

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achew22:

ShockValue, I ran revdep-rebuild and it didn't fix the problem

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Anduin:

mezoko: If it presents a v4l(2) interface then there is a good chance that it either works, or could with some effort.

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firefly2442:

Gotta go do some laundry, I'll be back on later, thanks for the help all

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mezoko:

Anduin: do you know if Hauppauge WinTV Cards are gonna use the onboard mpeg2 encoder

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Anduin:

mezoko: the x50/500 are the only analog cards they make with hardware encoding (at least that was true some time ago)

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BULLE:

mezoko: wintv-pvr 150,250,350,500 are the only ones that hauppauge makes, that are analog and have hardware mpeg2 encoding

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BULLE:

mezoko: they will work with itvtv

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mezoko:

BULLE: so that means they'll use the card instead of the cpu right?

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BULLE:

mezoko: yes

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BULLE:

mezoko: a little cpu power is still required, but its very minute, its basicly just copying the mpeg2 stream to disk

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mezoko:

BULLE: sweet

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mezoko:

BULLE: do you know if the Hauppauge Remotes work with lirc?

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BULLE:

mezoko: cpu will be used to WATCH the video though, unless you buy a 350 card ( it has tv out, but basicly only accelerates mpeg2 )

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BULLE:

mezoko: they should work, but better check lirc documentation in case somethign have changed lately

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BULLE:

i use a 250 card, with the remote, in linux

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BULLE:

works like a charm

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mezoko:

BULLE: should I spend the extra money on a 250? Or should I buy a 150?

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BULLE:

mezoko: hmmm, i cant realy answear that

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BULLE:

mezoko: some 150 cards that are cheap, are the MCE version, that does not come with a remote

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BULLE:

mezoko: better check the ivtv driver homepage, to make sure it supports all revisions of the 150 card

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TinheadNed:

I use the hauppauge remotes that come with the Nova-T

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mezoko:

BULLE: do you know the difference between the 150 and 250?

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TinheadNed:

the IR ports appear as /dev/input nodes, which are supported in the kernel

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BULLE:

mezoko: in practice, there is afaik no diff

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** Freman laughs, I've got like 12 remotes for different cards – if anyone wants one **

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TinheadNed:

although I haven't been able to create a udev rule so that the same PCI card is the remote every startup

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mezoko:

BULLE: then why is teh price so different

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Anduin:

mezoko: The 250 is an older card, if you are going x50 get the 150.

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Freman:

I found it was easier to make a serial remote receiver then it was to get the on-card remote to work

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mezoko:

oh ok

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BULLE:

Anduin: are all 150 revisions properly supported by the ivtv driver ?

[21:04:21]

BULLE:

Anduin: the ivtv page seems out of date, as it doesnt list a single 150 card as supported

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mezoko:

One last question

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Anduin:

BULLE: There were some issues with a tuner problem on some revs, only thing I'm aware of (note that I'm still waiting for another 250 to dies before I actually buy a 150)

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mezoko:

I'm looking at the pictures of the card from newegg, and it appears there is a thing that has a 3.5 mm jack do you guys now what hat might be

[21:05:30]

BULLE:

mezoko: sound input

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BULLE:

mezoko: i would check the ivtv driver mailinglist, to make sure the revision you want to buy of the 150 card is supported

[21:06:10]

mezoko:

BULLE: how would I find out the revision number?

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BULLE:

mezoko: atleast the 3.5mm input on my 250 is for sound, as it has s-video and composite video input aswell

[21:06:42]

BULLE:

mezoko: hard to realy, check that all revisions are supported and if they are, be happy

[21:06:55]

BULLE:

mezoko: back when i bought my card, i bought a 250 non MCE, because it was the best supported card

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BULLE:

mezoko: seems that all 150 cards are supported, according to the wiki

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BULLE:

mezoko: http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Supported_hardware

[21:07:50]

BULLE:

mezoko: so one of those should be fine then

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mezoko:

Which version of the remote reciever do you guys have? USD Dongle or the other reciever

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BULLE:

mezoko: my card has a 2.5 mm input on the back, where i connect the ir receiver

[21:10:12]

BULLE:

mezoko: i dont know if the usb ones work with lirc or not, you will have to check the lirc homepage/mailinglist archieves for such info

[21:10:35]

mezoko:

BULLE: well theres two cards with remotes on newegg, one has a dongle the other one has a 2.5mm jack

[21:10:54]

BULLE:

mezoko: consult lirc homepage

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mezoko:

the only difference seems like the one with the dongle has the audio rca along with the video

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zoibee:

where do i set audio out for live tv?

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Anduin:

zoibee: There is nothing special about live TV

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zoibee:

so it uses the default output from asound.conf?

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mezoko:

BULLE: it doesn't seem to say anything about the USB dongle I suppose I will get the one with just the rca video

[21:14:53]

mezoko:

Plus you said teh MCE were the junkier kind right?

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BULLE:

no idea

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Anduin:

mezoko: not junkier, just different accessories

[21:15:21]

BULLE:

i think the MCE ones doesnt come with a remote, atleast not here in europe, as you are supposed to use the MCE remote

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mezoko:

ahh maybe that why the one hauppauge card had a usb dongle it was MCE module

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BULLE:

mezoko: easiest thing to do is to just check hauppauge homepage for your region

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Anduin:

lirc has a few modules for supporting MCE USB receivers as well

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BULLE:

as they ship diff things to diff regions of the world

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mezoko:

BULLE: couldn't I use a rca (red white) to 3.5mm jack and plug that into the line on the card?

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achew22:

I recently emerged mythtv from the .20 ebuild on my gentoo system, and now when I try and run it it says "mythbackend: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libmythavformat-0.20.so.0: undefined symbol: av_adler32_update"

[21:20:43]

BULLE:

mezoko: uhm, yes, but what are you going to input ?

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BULLE:

mezoko: you only use the 3.5mm sound connector for sound INPUT, in combination with either the s-vhs or composite connector

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BULLE:

mezoko: but if that is what you want, yes, you can use a normal rca-> 3.5mm converter for the sound, i do that, as i connect a STB to my card, then sound goes via rca from the STB, to 3.5mm sound input on the card

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A-d:

Andin the mce usb transciever is now fully supported. both as a receiver and transmitter

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BULLE:

video goes via composite

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BULLE:

A-d: the old as well as the new version of it ?

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A-d:

no only the new one.

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Fnc:

afternoon all

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Fnc:

theres a writeup somewhere for settgin up a dvb card, its like go in setup do this, exit, run mythfill, restart setup, do this.... does anyone know where that doc is? or does anyone know the steps??

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A-d:

but the new one is the only one you can buy right now, so thats not a big deal unless you already own one of them

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Fnc:

a-d what you talkin about?

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A-d:

I'm talkning about the mce remote and that it is fully supported in lirc

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Fnc:

ah

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A-d:

previously it was only the receiver part was supported but now also supports the transmitter/blaster function

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Fnc:

anyone know in fc5 what the gui tool is for setting mount points?

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euphobot:

upgrade to .20 and the fonts disappeared from my Retro menus

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A-d:

hmm, lets fix that sentece a bit :-), "previously it was only the receiver part was working but now it also supports the transmitter/blaster function"

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euphobot:

gui?

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euphobot:

Fnc: see man mount

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Fnc:

graphical tool

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A-d:

it's called vi or vim

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Fnc:

trying to edit the fstab took me ages last time... was hoping there was a easy graphical way to change the automount permissions

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euphobot:

best way is to test mount until it works then add into fstab

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A-d:

what is it that you want to do

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Fnc:

mount my /dev/hda2 to video, with owner being mythtv

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Fnc:

with i guess rwx for any use

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Fnc:

r

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zoibee:

euphobot: or add into fstab and run mount -a until no errors arise :)

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euphobot:

thats good, but it might help to get the manual mount working first

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Fnc:

how do i figure out what my gid is for myth?

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euphobot:

so whats with the disappearing menu fonts

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A-d:

then add to your mount line -o owner=mythtv

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euphobot:

if mythtv is a user

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A-d:

yes mythtv is a user since only user can own something

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euphobot:

it is hard to find appearance without visible fonts

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A-d:

thats easy, you just has to click the transparent moving box somewhere on the screen :-)

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euphobot:

that I can do but I haven't found where the "no transparent fonts" is

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euphobot:

its not as fun as fishing

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euphobot:

cant see em but they bite

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niktaris_lap:

can I write a music playlist to a cd ?

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Anduin:

euphobot: Did you enable the GL painter?

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A-d:

I have actually had a similiar problem with transparent fonts, but that was solved when i uninstalled aiglx

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euphobot:

i think it is enabled in 2 places

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euphobot:

places in th frontend setup

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Anduin:

euphobot: mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt and see if the fonts return

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euphobot:

trying

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tecta:

for some reason mythfilldatabase can't connect to the backend server

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euphobot:

nope

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tecta:

hm do i have to forward the port?

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euphobot:

tecta: not if you specified the ip of that box and it is in same subnet

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Mattwj2005:

hey guys....I did it!

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Mattwj2005:

:)

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tecta:

euphobot, i just said port 6543 on localhost

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tecta:

euphobot, i'm behind a router though

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euphobot:

is the db on localhost?

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tecta:

euphobot, yezzir

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Mattwj2005:

I got my pvr-150 working

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euphobot:

you are not going thru your router then

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Mattwj2005:

if anyone is having problems with theirs please let me know :)

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tecta:

euphobot, k well not sure the prob, since it says set the correct ip, and i set it to localhost

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euphobot:

Anduin: is there a -O ThemePainter=gl ?

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euphobot:

tecta: is backend running?

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tecta:

grr mythtv is so hard to setup

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tecta:

euphobot, yeah

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euphobot:

might set the number of retries highter and longer

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Anduin:

euphobot: Yes, well it is called opengl (I believe)

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Mattwj2005:

it is version .20 ... there is still a ways to go before 1.0 :)

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Mattwj2005:

I am really happy with what it does all ready

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euphobot:

Anduin: trying that

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Anduin:

euphobot: It could also be some font that retro uses that you don't have (and the substitution is really bad)

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defi____:

is anybody else getting this type of error for there frontend: Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x29307)!

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defi____:

is anybody else getting this type of error for there frontend: Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x29307)!

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tecta:

dammit still won't connect

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euphobot:

maybe its time to re-install retro

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euphobot:

I had the font for .19

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Mattwj2005:

hey guys I have a question about an EIT

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Mattwj2005:

that is EIT scans

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Mattwj2005:

how long of a period of time does the EIT scan ahead

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pigeon:

hi, got a problem with a v4l analog tv card, channel changing isn't tuning properly, only got static, but if i manually use v4lctl it works, anything i should double check in myth? running 0.19.x, and it used to work when in 0.16.

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Paladine:

anyone recommend a sata raid card that plays nice with linux?

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pigeon:

ah, problem solved.

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jonK:

hi — anyone able to explain to me how to apply a diff patch?

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achew22:

jonK there are many exelent tutorials that can be found via google — would you like a few?

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achew22:

jonK, http://www.linuxhq.com/patch-howto.html

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jonK:

damn --- I looked for one before asking, but didn't find that one

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jonK:

i'll take a look thanks

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jonK:

now, it's not a kernel patch

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jonK:

but the command patch -p0 < patch-file-name-here

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jonK:

"patch file name here" is the patch file? (not the file being patched)?

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achew22:

jonK, thats the basic idea

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scott_:

hello mythtv lovers

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achew22:

try it — you'll find it easier when you try it

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jonK:

ok ... i'll try it and see what happens. ..

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scott_:

my video card is making a high pitched weeping sound in my backend, it's a headless machine so I don't even need it in there.. but i'm too lazy to remove it

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jonK:

i need to spec a file to patch on the input line — but am unsure what file the patch is to be applied to

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jonK:

I assume its the file from the first line of the diff: which reads:

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jonK:

--- ./libs/libmythtv/videodev2_myth.h 2006-07–18 17:55:57.000000000 +0200

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achew22:

scott_, maybe your sound card is crying from lack of attention?

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scott_:

I give it plenty of attention

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ShockValue:

whats the name of the file mythtv looks for for remote control button definitions? and where is it supposed to be located?

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achew22:

ShockValue, its in the mythdocs — leme check

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ShockValue:

hrm

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scott_:

I thought it was in the mythconverg database settings?

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ShockValue:

looks like lircrc in .mythtv, but for some reason its not picking it up on my box

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scott_:

yeah keybindings table in mythconverg database

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scott_:

ohhhh remote control

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scott_:

MY BAD

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ShockValue:

yeah the remote

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scott_:

mailing list says ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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achew22:

yeah so does the docs

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ShockValue:

ok, let me x2check and reboot it

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scott_:

ShockValue: did you enable lirc in ./configure?

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ShockValue:

yes, myth is compiled with lirc support

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ShockValue:

ok, so i have a file in /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc with some key settings

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ShockValue:

IRW responds correctly to my remote control on the command line

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ShockValue:

mythtv is compiled with lirc support

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scott_:

is mythfrontend being run as mythtv user also?

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ShockValue:

yes

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ShockValue:

arg, all the pastebins are getting slow :)

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scott_:

even the canadian one?

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ShockValue:

i cant even connect to .ca right now

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unstable:

Is there a mythtv like project for the radio?

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ShockValue:

good ? unstable. woiuld be cool to listen to the radio through mythtv :)

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scott_:

ls -la /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc

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ShockValue:

heres my lircrc: http://phpfi.com/161659

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ShockValue:

scott_: -rwxr--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 4019 Oct 8 16:02 /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc

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jonK:

anyone available to help me with an ivtv patch?

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jonK:

in the 0.8.0 readme is the following line:

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jonK:

If you run a 64-bit kernel, then you also need to apply patch misc/MythTV-0.20.diff

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jonK:

I'm unsure exactly what to do with this...

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BULLE:

jonK: apply it ?

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BULLE:

jonK: to the ivtv driver source

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unstable:

So there is no such project?

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unstable:

Someone that can filter out ads on the radio.

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unstable:

Something that can*

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BULLE:

no idea

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BULLE:

use google and freshmeat

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jonK:

BULLE, you're telling me what to do, not how to do it... could you help me with the latter

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BULLE:

jonK: just google for patch howto

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BULLE:

jonK: its easier then me trying to explain it

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jonK:

after trying this for the last hour or so, I'm not so sure

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BULLE:

jonK: basicly, the idea is to go to the correct direcotyr, type patch -p<level> <patchfile.diff

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BULLE:

level normaly is 1 or 2 or 0 i would say

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BULLE:

it should tell you all went well

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BULLE:

after that, you are done

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ShockValue:

anyone good with the dct6200 and firewire? im getting inconsistent results when trying to watch TV

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jonK:

its the first part that's throwing me, how to know what's the "correct directory"

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scott_:

ShockValue: I'm not good but I do want to hear about your firewire problem

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jonK:

the first two lines of the patch (---) and (+++) lines reference ./libs/libmythtv/videodev2_myth.h

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ShockValue:

scott_: well, it works about 75% of the time. but quite a fiew times when i try to watch livetv it times out trying and drops me back to the main menu...

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ShockValue:

i try a few more times, then it seems to work

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ShockValue:

let me see if i cant find the error

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ShockValue:

here we go. it throws this message about 10 times, in about 20 seconds, and drops me back to the main menu:

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ShockValue:

2006-10–07 13:45:42.592 RingBuf(myth://10.1.1.5:6543/1914_20061007134556.mpg): Taking too long to be allowed to read..

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jaymode:

I can no longer edit my recordings to cutout commercials, or at least when I go to the menu and hit edit for a recording nothing pops us anymore. Any way to get it back so that I can edit the recordings?

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ShockValue:

i have 2 boxes, so to test them both i was doing picture in picutre... once i got the first one going, it took me 2 or 3 tries of turning on PinP to get that to show up... assuming its the same issue

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jaymode:

ShockValue: i had a similar error message because my wireless network did not have enough bandwidth

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scott_:

I've had that ringbuf error as well

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ShockValue:

hrm, could be bandwidth i guess.. but would trying it 3 times, and it working just dandy on the 3rd time explain bandwidth?

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Fnc:

can someone tell me where the settings are to smooth things out in frontend?

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Fnc:

nm just found it deinterlace playback

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Fnc:

that reminds me... does anyone have any custom filters?

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jaymode:

ShockValue: not sure, maybe some other load on the network eg someone else downloading/accessing something?

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Paladine:

hey guys do the drives need to be the same drives for raid5 or just the same size?

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Fnc:

it will use the smallest one for the max size, if the others are different sizes

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Fnc:

best thing to do is use all the same drive though

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defi__3x:

Paladine, LVM can use drives of different sizes

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Paladine:

well I have 2x Maxtor 6L250S0 atm and the closest I can find is Maxtor 6L250M0

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Paladine:

I am raid5'ing no LVM

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defi__3x:

if all your doing is trying to make one large drive

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defi__3x:

Use those drives hen

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defi__3x:

*then

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Fnc:

youd be ok... raid can normally use different drives

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Paladine:

even though they have different buffer sizes?

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defi__3x:

You just lose storage if there different sizes

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Fnc:

thats right

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Paladine:

k thats good then

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defi__3x:

Thats why I suggested LVM

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Paladine:

I don't wanna use LVM

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Paladine:

I wanna use raid5

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defi__3x:

LOL ok ok

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defi__3x:

I'll stop saying it

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Paladine:

no redundancy on LVM

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armand:

hi, i installed mythstreamtv following the directions on the mythtv wiki, but when i pull up the mythweb interface i dont see a stream tv option

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Paladine:

if 1 drive dies you lose the lot

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defi__3x:

Ohh you want a backup

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armand:

any ideas where to look?

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ciphernemo:

I just installed via a 0.20 binary (with all plugins). Do I do a mythtv-setup next, or do I create a mythtv user, etc.? I'm lost on what to do next.

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defi__3x:

no you dont

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defi__3x:

you only lose what was on that particular drive

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defi__3x:

everything else remains

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ciphernemo:

defi: please direct to names? confusing :)

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defi__3x:

ok

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ciphernemo:

I just installed via a 0.20 binary (with all plugins). Do I execute a mythtv-setup next, or do I create a mythtv user, etc.? I'm lost on what to do next and I don't see directions for binary installs on wiki

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defi__3x:

I get an xlib error occasionally when I put the OSD up and the frontend dies, anybody else ever have this problem

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defi__3x:

ciphernemo, create a mythtv user then login as that use and run setup

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: which xlib?

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defi__3x:

just say Xlib

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defi__3x:

something about an async error

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defi__3x:

I can easily re-create it

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: any special privs to assign that mythtv user?

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: sounds like a video issue to me... what chipset / drivers?

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defi__3x:

yup, give access to everything myth uses i.e: video,cdrom,dvd,audio...etc

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defi__3x:

ati 9800pro

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: does the mythtv-setup add mythbackend to my configs?

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: or is that done with the install?

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: wish I could help, but I've only troubleshot with nvidia chipsets

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defi__3x:

ciphernemo, sorry got disconnected

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ciphernemo:

np

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defi__3x:

ciphernemo, anyone answer your question?

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: according to guides: "The mythtv install that you just ran automatically created a "mythtv" user."

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defi__3x:

ok then your all set

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defi__3x:

ciphernemo, now run setup but do so as that user

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: why would I run setup twice?

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defi__3x:

ciphernemo, did you already execute mythtv-setup

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: nm that last line

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: I got confused :)

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defi__3x:

ok

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: it looks like this binary I had didn't create the user as the old 0.18 binary did

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: off to fix that :)

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defi__3x:

ok

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: thx for the help

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defi__3x:

np

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defi__3x:

you think that Xlib error is for my video card? or the drivers for it?

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: I have a feeling it's for the video, especially if you're using X default ati drivers

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: video drivers

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defi__3x:

ciphernemo, I'm using the ati DRIVERS

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defi__3x:

oops

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defi__3x:

capslock

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defi__3x:

not yelling

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: np... ahhh, that's interesting

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ciphernemo:

defi__3x: hold on, lemme check something...

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defi__3x:

ciphernemo, are you suggesting its a hardware problem or just crap drivers?

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