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| [00:01:46] | kavorka^: | nordle, is there any info on the console? |
| [00:02:25] | whosit: | Any tweaks for an ATI video card? |
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| [00:02:36] | nordle: | kavorka^: not started from console, but good idea, will re-start from terminal and see if anything, thanks. |
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| [00:04:39] | kavorka^: | nordle, yeah its always the go when u get stuff like that happening...run it from console and see what it complains about |
| [00:05:08] | nordle: | "sh internal command not found" |
| [00:05:14] | gandalfcome: | can I run a mythbaCKEND on a server without X? |
| [00:05:45] | nordle: | It sais to change the player to "internal" so thats what I did, is it case sensitive? |
| [00:06:26] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah |
| [00:06:29] | GreyFoxx: | Capital I |
| [00:06:31] | GreyFoxx: | Internal |
| [00:06:49] | GreyFoxx: | I should change that as it bites several people :) |
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| [00:07:01] | nordle: | oops, my TV screen isnt the greatest, its a struggle to read the fonts a lot of the time.... thats my excuse anyway ;) |
| [00:08:47] | nordle: | sorted :) thanks! |
| [00:09:14] | gandalfcome: | can I run a mythbackend on a server without X? how do i configure it? |
| [00:09:34] | GreyFoxx: | Export the X display to another machine |
| [00:09:54] | gandalfcome: | do i really need it? |
| [00:10:37] | GreyFoxx: | If you want to run mythtv-setup you either need X running on the backend while you do it, OR export the display to a machine thatis running it |
| [00:11:32] | gandalfcome: | to export via ssh do i need an x server running on the machine or can I just export the display? |
| [00:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | you have to xport to an X server on whatever machine you are sending the display to |
| [00:12:20] | GreyFoxx: | If you are on the localnetwork with the machine you don't need to do it over X |
| [00:12:28] | GreyFoxx: | just export DISPLAY=111.222.333.444:0 |
| [00:12:35] | GreyFoxx: | and run an X server on 111.222.333.444 |
| [00:14:08] | gandalfcome: | GreyFoxx, thanks |
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| [00:19:51] | gandalfcome: | do i need to do ssh -X? |
| [00:20:11] | GreyFoxx: | Not if you are on the local lan with it |
| [00:20:23] | GreyFoxx: | just "export DISPLAY=IP:0" on the backend |
| [00:20:32] | GreyFoxx: | wiht IP being the machine running X |
| [00:20:45] | GreyFoxx: | and on the machine running X make sure it allows X connections from the machine with the backend |
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| [00:21:31] | gandalfcome: | perfect, it works how do I run setup in window mode |
| [00:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know if you can honestly as I've never tried |
| [00:22:19] | GreyFoxx: | but you can likely pass a -geometry 640x480 or somesuch on the commandline |
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| [00:24:23] | pushpop: | is it safe to upgrade to .20 on gentoo if your using firewire? |
| [00:28:21] | gandalfcome: | GreyFoxx, thanks again works like a charm |
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| [00:39:47] | kavorka^: | just switched to the internal video player over from xine...i'm impressed. is the internal dvd player just as good? |
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| [00:45:32] | kavorka^: | ok it works just fine as well....does the internal player support vcd's? |
| [00:45:42] | GreyFoxx: | Nope |
| [00:45:55] | GreyFoxx: | But It's likely to come |
| [00:46:04] | GreyFoxx: | I've got a few here that I plan to use for testing |
| [00:47:07] | kavorka^: | excellent |
| [00:47:59] | Aid`: | GreyFoxx: you program? |
| [00:48:36] | kavorka^: | im thinking of converting some of my mpeg2 recording to divx...what would be a good utility to use to do it? |
| [00:48:59] | Aid`: | transcode |
| [00:49:42] | kavorka^: | Aid`, transcode does this? wow i thought it only created nuv files |
| [00:51:02] | kavorka^: | ok time to read the man file |
| [00:51:05] | Aid`: | it does all sorts of things |
| [00:53:38] | GreyFoxx: | Aid`: Yes |
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| [00:57:16] | Aid`: | GreyFoxx: if i program in JAVA can i help making any plugins or is that not the correct lang? |
| [00:57:26] | GreyFoxx: | C++ |
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| [00:58:27] | GreyFoxx: | I suppose to could use any language,but it would be a little painful to use something else :) |
| [00:58:41] | GreyFoxx: | the libavcodec stuff is C,but the myth stuff is c++ |
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| [01:22:07] | RyeBrye: | If LIRC is properly setup, with /sbin/service lircd start always saw "OK" or something? |
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| [01:22:34] | RyeBrye: | I'm trying to get LIRC working with a serial port receiver, but it doesn't seem to do anything... but it seems to be loading from the output in /var/log/messages |
| [01:22:51] | RyeBrye: | http://pastebin.ca/193604 <-- /var/log/messages | grep lirc |
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| [01:25:15] | RyeBrye: | hm. NM – I just went into mode2 and am clearly getting pulses spitting out |
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| [01:26:34] | sphery: | RyeBrye: check that your button names in ~/.mythtv/lircrc match those in /etc/lircd.conf |
| [01:26:48] | sphery: | And make sure you use ~/.mythtv/lircrc instead of ~/.lircrc |
| [01:27:22] | RyeBrye: | lircd doesn't seem to be installed right – even though I installed it from an rpm using yum |
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| [01:28:16] | RyeBrye: | if I type "lircd" as root I get a command not found message |
| [01:28:30] | RyeBrye: | sphery – thanks for the tip about the button names |
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| [01:29:17] | pushpop: | is it safe to upgrade to .20 on gentoo if your using firewire? |
| [01:31:32] | RyeBrye: | Strange... I see lircd in my /usr/sbin but it doesn't appear to be in my PATH... |
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| [01:32:56] | Anduin: | RyeBrye: usually caused by bad suing |
| [01:34:08] | fryfrog: | ´Okay, so the cable guy brought me 2x DCT6412 III |
| [01:34:19] | fryfrog: | they are HD DVR's with firewire out |
| [01:34:30] | fryfrog: | but the 6200ch won't change the channels over fire wire |
| [01:34:35] | fryfrog: | anyone used one of these? |
| [01:50:30] | RyeBrye: | I think I figured out part of my problem... I had a different window running in mode2 so my lirc crap wasn't working... |
| [01:50:58] | RyeBrye: | If i have a cheapy "All-in-One" remote, should I just look for a good config file that has buttons in it and then set the remote codes to an existing remote out there? |
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| [01:51:07] | RyeBrye: | (i.e. a universal remote) |
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| [01:57:32] | Mattwj2005: | hey guys |
| [01:58:33] | sphery: | hey |
| [01:58:48] | Mattwj2005: | how is it going sphery? |
| [01:59:21] | sphery: | good |
| [01:59:24] | sphery: | what's up? |
| [01:59:29] | Mattwj2005: | not much |
| [01:59:35] | sphery: | No Myth problems? |
| [01:59:37] | sphery: | Cool. |
| [01:59:48] | Mattwj2005: | just playing around with my pchdtv-5500 and MythTV |
| [02:00:04] | Mattwj2005: | I still need to work on my pvr-150....but Battlestar is on now :) |
| [02:00:15] | sphery: | Wow. I will (finally) be playing with HD-3000's and MythTV probably next week. |
| [02:00:42] | Mattwj2005: | I don't know about the hd-3000 but the hd-5500 is pretty good :) |
| [02:00:58] | sphery: | Yeah. I'm making patches, but can't do any testing because I'm recording primetime stuff.. |
| [02:01:06] | sphery: | Few more hours before testing... |
| [02:01:16] | Mattwj2005: | got you |
| [02:01:22] | Mattwj2005: | anything good on primetime tonight? |
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| [02:01:33] | Mattwj2005: | Battlestar is on Sci so HDTV doesn't help |
| [02:01:52] | Mattwj2005: | I don't use the analog part of the tuner |
| [02:03:16] | sphery: | No. There's really nothing good on in primetime tonight. |
| [02:03:20] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery: that's what a dev copy of your DB is for. :) and with the fake tuner ability you can even simulate recordings on a dev box with no tuners. |
| [02:03:26] | sphery: | But, I record everything I might want to watch. |
| [02:03:40] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay |
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| [02:04:27] | sphery: | Yeah, Captain_Murdoch, Next week I'll be putting the finishing touches on my HDTV Myth systems (split backend/frontend). Then, the old box becomes a dev box. :) |
| [02:04:29] | xzcvczx: | when backing up a dvd using mythDVD import is there a way to get it to make a 1.4gb avi or a 700mb avi as when i choose 'Good' it spits out a 2gig avi? |
| [02:05:25] | sphery: | Mattwj2005: Also, since I only have local channels, sometimes I have to settle for not-good shows. :) |
| [02:05:37] | Mattwj2005: | got you |
| [02:05:46] | sphery: | xzcvczx: Don't think there's much control through MythDVD. |
| [02:05:49] | Mattwj2005: | better than nothing :) |
| [02:06:01] | sphery: | You may have to use an external program to rip to CD-sized hunks. |
| [02:06:06] | sphery: | (or whatever) |
| [02:06:10] | xzcvczx: | oh ok |
| [02:06:29] | Aid`: | . |
| [02:06:44] | xzcvczx: | meh oh well i will let mythdvd do the 2 others that are lined up then just use something else to shrink them to a more reasonable size |
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| [02:06:48] | sphery: | Anduin could tell you more, though. He knows MythDVD (and now MythVideo) like he wrote it himself. |
| [02:06:49] | xzcvczx: | cheers |
| [02:07:32] | fryfrog: | Anyone know why mythfilldatabase would not add new channels when i select them in datadirect's labs.zap2it.com? |
| [02:07:34] | Anduin: | xzcvczx: You cannot currently edit the transcode profiles (other than by hand) |
| [02:07:58] | xzcvczx: | and editing by hand is done where? |
| [02:08:10] | sphery: | fryfrog: are you using digital? (I.e. HDTV?) |
| [02:08:13] | Anduin: | xzcvczx: dvdtranscode (the table in the DB_ |
| [02:08:22] | xzcvczx: | sorry first time i have ever backed up a dvd |
| [02:08:23] | fryfrog: | it is a mix, HD DVR hooked up to firewire |
| [02:08:30] | fryfrog: | does it ignore HD from cable listings or something? |
| [02:08:31] | xzcvczx: | Anduin: cheers |
| [02:08:39] | fryfrog: | i saw *once* something about "not adding channel XXX" or something |
| [02:09:03] | sphery: | fryfrog: By default, mythfilldatabase will not add new channels for digital video sources because they're usually unusable until you've done a proper scan. |
| [02:09:11] | fryfrog: | ahhhh |
| [02:09:16] | fryfrog: | do you know how to bypass that? |
| [02:09:17] | sphery: | You can tell it to use them by passing the "--do-channel-updates" argument |
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| [02:09:35] | fryfrog: | ahhh |
| [02:09:36] | sphery: | But it's semi-destructive, so don't put it in mythfilldatabase args setting in mythfrontend settings. |
| [02:09:48] | sphery: | Use it only from the command line when you're sure that's what you want to do. |
| [02:10:27] | fryfrog: | ahhhhhh |
| [02:10:29] | sphery: | firewire is also not added automatically because many times the channels that are added are not available because of encryption. |
| [02:10:30] | fryfrog: | i see the text |
| [02:10:38] | fryfrog: | ah, guess i'll find out |
| [02:10:42] | sphery: | So, you have to use --do-channel-updates for firewire sources. |
| [02:10:44] | fryfrog: | my firewire is quite unstable |
| [02:11:01] | fryfrog: | sometimes it tunes fine, but sometimes it takes 2 or 3 attempts into livetv to catch something |
| [02:11:09] | fryfrog: | so far, the 5 or 6 i tested are not encrypted though |
| [02:11:14] | fryfrog: | comedy central, etc |
| [02:11:14] | sphery: | I've never used firewire. |
| [02:11:20] | sphery: | So, can't help with that part. |
| [02:11:22] | fryfrog: | my cable company is retarded :p |
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| [02:11:40] | sphery: | To your benefit, it sounds like. |
| [02:11:41] | fryfrog: | i asked them to trade my HD DVR for 2x HD STB (no dvr) |
| [02:11:53] | fryfrog: | the dude brought me TWO HD DVR cause they didn't have any :/ |
| [02:12:05] | fryfrog: | and the HD DVR is not as supported by myth |
| [02:12:06] | sphery: | do they charge you 2xDVR fee? |
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| [02:12:19] | sphery: | Or is it the same as 2xHD STB? |
| [02:12:51] | sphery: | Guess that means you can write the code to add support for the new boxes. :) |
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| [03:17:44] | aboutblank: | call your kernels please? new mythtv box and need ivtv but not sure if i should upgrade my kernel first. at 2.6.15 on dapper now |
| [03:19:19] | sphery: | 2.4.26 |
| [03:19:25] | sphery: | If it ain't broke... |
| [03:19:40] | sphery: | (Will be upgrading--probably next week--though.) |
| [03:20:00] | sphery: | I will be using 2.6.18--which may be a bad idea, but I'm stubborn enough to make it work. |
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| [03:31:22] | ShockValue: | .18, but i dont use ivtv |
| [03:32:07] | GreyFoxx: | 2.6.12.5 on my master backend, 2.6.13.5 on my slave, and 2.6.16.20 on the frontends |
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| [03:40:46] | ShockValue: | anyone using the dct6200 + firewire? wondering how you set it up so things keep working after a reboot |
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| [03:44:33] | SkaFreak: | Hello, I can't get connected to my backend (which I am running locally) despite the fact that it's running and that I have it set to 127.0.0.1. Anyone have any ideas on what might be wrong? |
| [03:47:00] | aboutblank: | it's not running? |
| [03:47:16] | SkaFreak: | is is running |
| [03:47:31] | SkaFreak: | it* |
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| [03:49:59] | aboutblank: | you can share any type of partition over samba... right? |
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| [03:52:10] | ShockValue: | check /var/logs/mythtv |
| [03:52:30] | ShockValue: | or wherever your logfiles are stored.. there should be a backend log that might give you some insite |
| [03:53:14] | SkaFreak: | alright |
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| [04:02:11] | SkaFreak: | well that solved the first problem |
| [04:02:46] | SkaFreak: | now I just need to figure out why it's not actually showing any channels, just fuzziness despite the fact that it pulls up the info |
| [04:05:24] | aboutblank: | info is not related to the stream... |
| [04:05:27] | aboutblank: | it's pulled from the net |
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| [04:11:58] | SkaFreak: | yeah, I know |
| [04:12:11] | SkaFreak: | but it seemed like it tried to autoconfigure where all the chanels were too |
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| [04:24:26] | fryfrog: | damnit, all of a sudden my air2pc cards aren't getting *any* HD channels |
| [04:24:33] | fryfrog: | and firewire that i just setup, is skipping! |
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| [04:33:11] | Ediehow: | anyone using an ir blaster? |
| [04:34:40] | ShockValue: | is there anyway to make an nfs mount /mythtv / internal player buffer more data when playing a large file? |
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| [04:40:42] | antiPo5ix: | I'm currently watching my tivo |
| [04:41:16] | antiPo5ix: | I hate its scheduling capabilties |
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| [04:41:38] | antiPo5ix: | there should be bumper stickers "Kill your TiVo" |
| [04:43:26] | antiPo5ix: | If TiVo added a mp4(divx,xvid) encoding capabilties and enhanced confilct resolution and a lifetime subscription I might think about persuing TiVo |
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| [04:53:53] | ShockValue: | if i wanted to remove the data about mythmusic and rescan my collection from scratch, how could i do that? |
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| [05:15:01] | RyeBrye: | ls |
| [05:15:10] | RyeBrye: | err... wrong window |
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| [05:21:32] | scott_: | yo |
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| [05:23:18] | antiPo5ix: | yo? |
| [05:23:32] | Ediehow: | please, anyone use an ir blaster? |
| [05:23:51] | antiPo5ix: | not I |
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| [05:27:33] | xanderp: | is mythfilldatabase broken for everyone? (is zap2it broken?) I get to 4282K and it just loops stuck on both of my backends |
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| [05:34:08] | Tronic_: | My "Watch TV" got broken. |
| [05:34:28] | Tronic_: | Scheduling a recording and then watching it real-time in Media Library works fine. |
| [05:34:34] | Tronic_: | But I cannot watch live TV. |
| [05:34:44] | Tronic_: | (just gives me a black screen) |
| [05:34:57] | Tronic_: | And in log says that prebuffer wait timed out. |
| [05:35:56] | Tronic_: | It used to work before, but for some reason doesn't anymore. |
| [05:38:00] | xanderp: | Tronic_ can you do a mythfilldatabase right now? I can't tell if both of my backends are broken, or if it's a problem with zap2it |
| [05:38:20] | Tronic_: | I only use EIT. |
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| [05:38:37] | Tronic_: | So I can't do mythfilldatabase :) |
| [05:38:39] | JoshT76: | anyone using .20 yet? |
| [05:38:47] | scott_: | no one has upgraded to .20 yet |
| [05:38:53] | JoshT76: | dang |
| [05:38:55] | JoshT76: | lol |
| [05:39:00] | xanderp: | :( |
| [05:40:00] | JoshT76: | when i compile it, mytharchive has issues, any suggestions? |
| [05:40:45] | xanderp: | anyone please test mythfilldatabase for me? I am hoping that zap2it is temp broken, not both of my backends. |
| [05:41:02] | JoshT76: | or has anyone else experienced issues with mytharchive when comiling mythplugins |
| [05:41:13] | JoshT76: | xanderp: i will |
| [05:41:22] | ShockValue: | arg.. i dont get it.. with firewire + dct6800 i can use test-mpeg2 just fine to get video.. but i cant seem to get it to work in myth |
| [05:41:34] | xanderp: | JoshT76: thanks, mine freezes on both machines at 4,282 |
| [05:41:52] | ShockValue: | ive set my capture card to 0,0 and run through 100–400mhz, but still the same thing.. times out trying to watch live tv |
| [05:42:20] | scott_: | ShockValue: I feel your pain, I'm in your same boat |
| [05:42:58] | ShockValue: | i got this thing working for like 10 minutes last week before i had to rebuild.. so i know it's possible.. just not sure what im missing |
| [05:44:08] | JoshT76: | woking ok here |
| [05:44:24] | JoshT76: | really i'm cooking with a wok |
| [05:44:26] | xanderp: | crap... |
| [05:44:29] | ShockValue: | JoshT76: is there some script or some settins you have to run before you start the backend? |
| [05:44:32] | JoshT76: | lol i meant working |
| [05:44:47] | xanderp: | what ver you running? |
| [05:44:51] | JoshT76: | i have a few things that i run, why? |
| [05:44:54] | JoshT76: | .20 |
| [05:45:00] | xanderp: | hmmm |
| [05:45:24] | scott_: | ShockValue: who is your cable provider? |
| [05:45:27] | ShockValue: | why? becuase i'd like to make mine work too.. so copying you might help :) |
| [05:45:29] | ShockValue: | comcast |
| [05:45:41] | JoshT76: | what are you trying to get working, what's broke? |
| [05:45:47] | scott_: | lucky bastard, they pretty much allow you to grab anything they offer via firewire, right? |
| [05:46:12] | scott_: | ShockValue: I think JoshT76 was telling xanderp that his mythfilldatabase was working |
| [05:46:17] | ShockValue: | oh |
| [05:46:32] | ShockValue: | i misunderstood then.. i thought he meant he had firewire and a dct6200 working |
| [05:46:54] | scott_: | have you tried both p2p and broadcast and each 100–400Mbps settings? |
| [05:47:00] | JoshT76: | oops, my bad dude didn't intend to mislead you |
| [05:47:33] | ShockValue: | not bcast |
| [05:47:50] | ShockValue: | i heard that was unreliable, so i didnt try that yet |
| [05:47:59] | xanderp: | odd.. i've got an old backend running on gentoo that i've not messed with for a long time, and it's broken for mythfilldatabase, and I just built a fedora backend and it is broken in the exact same way... |
| [05:48:39] | ShockValue: | xanderp: whats it do exactly? mine worked a few hours ago |
| [05:48:39] | xanderp: | i wonder if my zap2it account is screwed up. |
| [05:49:03] | ShockValue: | id try a mythfilldatabase from the command line and watch for errors there i guess |
| [05:49:12] | xanderp: | it starts to download, then freezes up at 4,282k downloaded and the arror keeps moving back and forth forever. |
| [05:49:22] | xanderp: | that's where i'm doing it :( |
| [05:49:29] | xanderp: | (command line) |
| [05:49:43] | ShockValue: | hrm, |
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| [05:49:53] | JoshT76: | it tells you when it expires during the process, try to see if it has |
| [05:50:08] | ShockValue: | i dont think ive seen that behavior before.. yeah, try logging into the website maybe |
| [05:50:09] | JoshT76: | why do they expore? |
| [05:50:17] | JoshT76: | expire* |
| [05:50:28] | ShockValue: | because that allows them to force you to take surveys |
| [05:51:01] | JoshT76: | oh so they are still free though after that (just started building mythtv's) |
| [05:51:19] | xanderp: | i think i'll create a new zap2it account and test that. my account isn't expiring until 2006/12/24 |
| [05:52:01] | xanderp: | they didn't even make me do a survey like before during the last renewal... it was much less painful. |
| [05:52:04] | ShockValue: | yeah, ive been pulling data from them for like 2 years.. they just have like 5 question surveys to complete to extend your subscription every few months |
| [05:52:40] | JoshT76: | what distro you guys use? |
| [05:53:04] | ShockValue: | gentoo |
| [05:53:39] | xanderp: | gentoo,redhat,suse |
| [05:53:43] | JoshT76: | cool, i'm using ubuntu |
| [05:54:23] | xanderp: | crap... i can't create a new account because i can't get to the 'need a certificate code' page... |
| [05:54:46] | ShockValue: | xanderp: new firewall? :) |
| [05:55:05] | xanderp: | nope |
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| [05:55:23] | xanderp: | http://tinyurl.com/85a6e |
| [05:55:27] | xanderp: | can you guys get to this? |
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| [05:55:56] | ShockValue: | yep |
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| [05:56:15] | ShockValue: | puts me here: http://docs.tms.tribune.com/tech/tmsdatadirec . . . e_codes.html |
| [05:56:16] | xanderp: | crapola... |
| [05:56:59] | xanderp: | thanks... i can get there, the tinyurl was broken for me |
| [05:58:56] | xanderp: | ok, now to try the new account (fingers crossed) |
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| [06:02:33] | xanderp: | ok, now i'm officially confused. It still freezes up at 4,282K. I'm going to try rebooting the new box and testing again |
| [06:02:54] | xanderp: | is there a mythfilldatabase -v or something for verbose? |
| [06:03:11] | xanderp: | yes.. sweet |
| [06:10:17] | xanderp: | ok, who was it that asked about my firewall? They get a gold star!!! I just checked my router's firewall and turned off all the outbound rules and it works now! |
| [06:10:39] | ShockValue: | <ShockValue> xanderp: new firewall? :) |
| [06:11:10] | xanderp: | nope... but i did do a firmware update to it not long ago. i wonder if they changed the way it applies it's ruleset |
| [06:11:37] | xanderp: | i will gut the rules and re-set them up from scratch and see if that fixes it. |
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| [06:18:28] | xanderp: | i found a posting that says that it's a problem with TCP window scaling. I bet it is something they broke in my most recent firmware on the router. |
| [06:18:50] | xanderp: | at least it works with the outbound FW rules disabled for now. |
| [06:19:53] | xuxa: | I'm working on my first-time install of KnoppMyth on a machine with a PC3000 HDTV card. How do I know what device the card is mapped to? (The default is /dev/video0 but I've found others using different configurations.) |
| [06:20:32] | xanderp: | xuxa try checking out dmesg |
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| [06:22:45] | xuxa: | xanderp: This is what I found: "PC3000 HDTV[card=22,autodetected" and "TV tuner card at 0x1fe" |
| [06:23:10] | xuxa: | oops, make that "TV tuner 52 card at 0x1fe" |
| [06:23:18] | xanderp: | hmmm, my ivtv based cards tell you what they were assigned to video0, video1 etc... |
| [06:23:34] | xuxa: | I wonder if it's /dev/video22 or /dev/video52 |
| [06:23:42] | xanderp: | if you look in /dev/ do you have tons of /dev/video's or just a few? |
| [06:23:48] | xuxa: | xanderp: hrm... let me look again. |
| [06:24:44] | xuxa: | looks like I have video0 through video63 or so |
| [06:25:02] | xuxa: | let me look again in dmesg, maybe I'm just missing the mention of video0 or video1 |
| [06:25:09] | xuxa: | you say your dmesg says that pretty clearly? |
| [06:25:24] | xanderp: | ok, i think some distro's pre-populate that directory with lots of them, even when they aren't REALLY there. |
| [06:25:39] | xanderp: | yes, but i have a different card |
| [06:25:42] | xuxa: | xanderp: okay, thanks. |
| [06:25:44] | ** xuxa looks again ** | |
| [06:28:32] | ShockValue: | arg, this is frustrating |
| [06:28:45] | ShockValue: | anyone awake succesfully using a dct6200 + firewire? |
| [06:29:48] | xanderp: | ShockValue: i don't even know what a dct6200 looks like :( sorry |
| [06:30:10] | sphery: | I'm neither awake nor using a dct6200. |
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| [06:30:51] | xanderp: | ok, i now know what they look like, and wish I had one! |
| [06:31:09] | ShockValue: | cool little box, if only i could get mythtv to talk to it |
| [06:31:20] | RyeBrye3: | Is there a place that lists off all of the possible config = for MythTV as I am building out my .lircrc file? |
| [06:31:21] | xanderp: | you think it's a timing issue? |
| [06:31:25] | xuxa: | xanderp: the one mention of "video" in dmesg refers to video0 so the default is probably correct. I'll keep looking for the problem. Thanks for the help! |
| [06:31:43] | ** xuxa puts off further troubleshooting till tomorrow ** | |
| [06:31:44] | xanderp: | xuxa: NP |
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| [07:01:18] | RyeBrye: | I have lircd installed, a lirc.conf file that works, and I can verify this by running irw... I've made a .lircrc file and it's in ~/.mythtv/.lircrc but the remote doesn't seem to work in myth |
| [07:03:18] | RyeBrye: | actually... it's in lircrc |
| [07:20:36] | sphery: | So, it's ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [07:21:05] | sphery: | If so, make sure your button names match those in /etc/lircd.conf |
| [07:21:25] | sphery: | (and remember, it probably should be /etc/lircd.conf, not /etc/lirc.conf) |
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| [07:57:07] | Tuju_: | mmm |
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| [07:57:25] | Tuju: | my backend starts fine. |
| [07:57:39] | Tuju: | my frontend boots to ramfs fine, but cannot connect to 'database' |
| [07:57:56] | Tuju: | any glue what could cause it? |
| [07:58:11] | Tuju: | I've mysql and mythbackend running on server. |
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| [09:31:24] | caitlin: | hmm, mario released new packages |
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| [09:34:27] | Ediehow: | anyone using ir blaster? |
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| [10:00:48] | octan: | hi all |
| [10:01:03] | octan: | i got this weird stuff |
| [10:01:13] | octan: | mythfilldatabase runs |
| [10:01:17] | octan: | fine |
| [10:01:20] | octan: | no errors |
| [10:01:45] | octan: | but when i open mythfrontend.. thers nothing in my program guide |
| [10:03:10] | caitlin: | are you trying to use on air info, or xml? |
| [10:03:17] | octan: | xml |
| [10:03:22] | caitlin: | google parker1 |
| [10:03:29] | caitlin: | he's got a guide to setting it up |
| [10:03:35] | caitlin: | make sure you've done everything in there |
| [10:03:46] | octan: | no, i had it working |
| [10:03:54] | octan: | it stoped working |
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| [10:04:10] | caitlin: | so has the guide *empties* like trashed data it had, or just run out? |
| [10:04:17] | octan: | ok |
| [10:04:23] | octan: | let check it out |
| [10:08:19] | Ediehow: | anyone using ir blaster? |
| [10:08:21] | Ediehow: | or an ir blaster |
| [10:09:20] | caitlin: | no, but what's up? |
| [10:10:17] | Ediehow: | i can't get lirc set up to control my stb:( |
| [10:10:33] | Ediehow: | irrecord says to hit all the buttons |
| [10:10:38] | Ediehow: | and it's supposed to do .... dots |
| [10:10:46] | Ediehow: | but it only does 2 dots for like 20 buttons |
| [10:10:53] | Ediehow: | and it's supposed to do 2 LINES of buttons |
| [10:10:57] | caitlin: | sounds a bit bust :P |
| [10:11:35] | caitlin: | have you got the right kernel modules for it? |
| [10:11:45] | caitlin: | sounds like it's picking up *some* of the buttons, but not all |
| [10:12:05] | Ediehow: | i tried another remote and it does dots for everything |
| [10:12:06] | Ediehow: | a pc remote |
| [10:14:08] | caitlin: | what guide are you following? |
| [10:14:18] | caitlin: | sounds like it's not understanding the codes that the remote is sending |
| [10:14:54] | caitlin: | i've got a nova-t card, and to use that i had to patch the module to understand all the buttons... it only understood a few and ignored the rest |
| [10:15:01] | Ediehow: | http://www.usbuirt.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1 |
| [10:15:23] | Ediehow: | Linux LIRC USB-UIRT HOWTO |
| [10:16:00] | Ediehow: | and record remote keypresses. Remote has to be held within inches of front center of usb-uirt. -l puts it into learn mode, which dumps the frequency. Might be a good idea to record a power button if you want to try transmitting. Continue thru irrecord process. |
| [10:17:30] | caitlin: | where does it say about two lines? |
| [10:17:40] | caitlin: | have you done the bit where you check the output codes |
| [10:18:36] | Ediehow: | when you do irrecord |
| [10:18:39] | Ediehow: | it talks about the two lines |
| [10:18:43] | caitlin: | irw |
| [10:19:14] | caitlin: | the program talks about two lines? |
| [10:19:19] | Ediehow: | irrecord |
| [10:19:21] | caitlin: | it's an odd output method |
| [10:19:29] | Ediehow: | ok, i just ran lircd -n -d /dev/lirc |
| [10:19:36] | Ediehow: | and it says what it's spposed to, that it's ready |
| [10:19:50] | caitlin: | does it put anything in "test.conf"? |
| [10:19:58] | Ediehow: | maybe i need to turn off my stb? |
| [10:20:27] | caitlin: | dunno |
| [10:25:37] | Ediehow: | this really SUCKS |
| [10:25:45] | Ediehow: | there is absolutely NO help on that forum |
| [10:29:35] | Ediehow: | this really sucks, i can |
| [10:29:44] | Ediehow: | 't have myth record things until it can change channels |
| [10:30:01] | caitlin: | you can use the keyboard |
| [10:33:11] | Ediehow: | not to automate recording |
| [10:33:20] | Ediehow: | it can't change channels for me |
| [10:33:39] | caitlin: | i dont follow, all the remote does is fake keyboard commands |
| [10:39:53] | Ediehow: | caitlin, how does myth change channels? |
| [10:40:05] | Ediehow: | if i set up a recording, i don't want to have to be there to change the channel |
| [10:40:05] | octan: | erm... damn webcamera |
| [10:40:10] | octan: | how do i tell which order the modules are loaded? i have a pvr 500 card,, it has video0 and video1 and i have a webcam /dev/video2 however.. when i restart my pc my webcam comes on video0 i cant have it there,, how can i tell it to be video2, or tell it to be loaded after the ivtv module ? my webcam uses the spca5xx module |
| [10:40:16] | caitlin: | Ediehow, it just does it |
| [10:40:23] | caitlin: | it tunes to the channel and starts |
| [10:40:24] | Ediehow: | caitlin, it doesn't just "do it" with a stb |
| [10:40:29] | caitlin: | it's a *prv* |
| [10:40:31] | Ediehow: | caitlin, you are talking about cable and coax |
| [10:40:37] | caitlin: | ah |
| [10:40:42] | caitlin: | i see |
| [10:40:57] | caitlin: | too early on a saturday for thinking :P |
| [10:41:47] | ** caitlin gets her telly from a dvbcard so the pc switches for her ** | |
| [10:49:33] | BULLE: | octan: make a suitable udev rule that mapps the webcam to video2 |
| [10:49:52] | BULLE: | octan: so read the udev docs, and write the appropriate udev rule |
| [10:50:38] | ** caitlin upgrades and grits her teeth ** | |
| [10:50:41] | octan: | BULLE, nice.. but if i just can get ivtv module to load first i dont need to do that |
| [10:51:02] | caitlin: | dont they load in the order from the modules list? |
| [10:51:06] | caitlin: | in that file? |
| [10:51:22] | octan: | well the thing is that the module spca5xx isnt listed in any files |
| [10:51:28] | octan: | i dont know how it starts |
| [10:51:49] | octan: | /etc/modules only has some mouse stuff and ivtv |
| [10:52:10] | caitlin: | is it in your kernel? |
| [10:52:18] | octan: | no |
| [10:52:27] | octan: | lsmod shows it as a module |
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| [10:52:35] | octan: | and i can rmmod on it |
| [10:52:51] | caitlin: | google? :P |
| [10:53:10] | octan: | lol :) i'll go as in my distro channel |
| [10:53:10] | caitlin: | its sad when google is brighter than you isn't it? i hate google... smug bastards |
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| [11:08:38] | dennis|nb: | can anyone help me with lirc? i dont understand how to setup my remote |
| [11:09:26] | dennis|nb: | i have recorded a lircd.conf with irrecord but i dont know what to do now |
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| [11:15:25] | caitlin: | aww bollocks, i've broken mythweb |
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| [11:19:25] | Zider: | caitlin: need to borrow some duct tape? |
| [11:21:43] | caitlin: | yeh |
| [11:21:44] | caitlin: | :p |
| [11:28:57] | dennis|nb: | gto a problem with mythfilldatabase, it doesnt write any program data to the db |
| [11:29:07] | caitlin: | FIIIIIXEDD it |
| [11:29:10] | caitlin: | cheers for the tape |
| [11:29:14] | dennis|nb: | grats caitlin ;) |
| [11:29:35] | caitlin: | i can *play* dvds, at 40000000db stupid drive, but i can't archive yet... dull |
| [11:37:58] | caitlin: | i *think* my motherboard is dead though |
| [11:38:05] | caitlin: | it's got capacitor goo :( |
| [11:39:01] | halex-ab: | Uh oh.. |
| [11:39:06] | halex-ab: | Not good.. |
| [11:39:25] | halex-ab: | Was it a cheap mobo..? heh |
| [11:48:12] | caitlin: | just 7 yrs old |
| [11:48:18] | caitlin: | it's my girlfriends actually |
| [11:48:26] | Zider: | abit? :P |
| [11:48:51] | caitlin: | erm |
| [11:48:56] | dennis|nb: | i have installed mytth with lirc support, but mythtv only recognises the up/down/left/right and ok keys from the remote |
| [11:49:17] | dennis|nb: | so it seems that it doesnt read the lircrc |
| [11:50:23] | dennis|nb: | irw reads the keys correct |
| [11:50:34] | caitlin: | gigabyte |
| [11:51:38] | Zider: | well, same crap ;) |
| [11:52:01] | halex-ab: | lol |
| [11:52:15] | halex-ab: | Not as bad as failing PSUs, I can tell you that for nothing.. |
| [11:52:41] | Zider: | true |
| [11:52:49] | Zider: | my exs psu exploded.. :P |
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| [11:53:23] | speedsix: | Hi all |
| [11:57:02] | speedsix: | Anyone got a dvd-audio disc playing under linux and what chances are there of mythmusic supporting playback? |
| [11:57:47] | caitlin: | psus just make pcs stop working |
| [11:58:00] | caitlin: | psu on my webserver went pop |
| [11:58:09] | caitlin: | new psu, came right back up |
| [11:58:12] | caitlin: | </jammy> |
| [11:58:16] | caitlin: | </touch wood> |
| [11:58:25] | Zider: | a fried mobo pretty much makes it stop working too ;) |
| [11:58:34] | caitlin: | of course, the raid may have saved it somewhat |
| [11:58:35] | halex-ab: | caitlin, sometimes.. I had a case where my PSU slowly ate my mobo |
| [11:59:00] | Zider: | caitlin: jammy? |
| [11:59:26] | caitlin: | yeh, spraying random voltages around if caps went pop is rather messy |
| [11:59:48] | caitlin: | </no actual idea how switch mode stuff works> |
| [11:59:53] | halex-ab: | lol |
| [12:00:46] | caitlin: | i blew out half the resistors out on my old laptop when the psu blew on that |
| [12:01:07] | caitlin: | soldered in some normal ones bridging the surface mount crap and it worked again |
| [12:01:10] | caitlin: | that was fun |
| [12:01:13] | Zider: | hehe |
| [12:01:17] | Zider: | no gaffa? ;) |
| [12:01:39] | halex-ab: | LOL..! |
| [12:01:45] | halex-ab: | caitlin, resistors blow out..? I thought they just burn out.. |
| [12:01:55] | caitlin: | same difference |
| [12:01:59] | caitlin: | the magic smoke gets out |
| [12:02:09] | Zider: | they don't exactly explode |
| [12:02:33] | caitlin: | hook a small resistor to a farad cap and see what happens |
| [12:02:54] | halex-ab: | Now there's some fun.. ;) |
| [12:03:18] | caitlin: | i hate buying new computers |
| [12:03:25] | caitlin: | i dont want to |
| [12:03:37] | halex-ab: | why not? |
| [12:03:40] | caitlin: | they're moved on and i'm still running pentium 2s |
| [12:05:09] | halex-ab: | You young whippersnappers, what ever happen to the good ol' pentium 1s..? |
| [12:05:16] | halex-ab: | happened* |
| [12:05:25] | caitlin: | i had one of those too |
| [12:05:33] | halex-ab: | What happened to it? |
| [12:06:21] | Zider: | my system is getting a bit old too.. time to upgrade soon I think.. |
| [12:06:29] | Zider: | it's only a core2duo |
| [12:06:33] | Zider: | old crap ;P |
| [12:07:42] | halex-ab: | LOL..! |
| [12:08:00] | halex-ab: | Tell me about it.. I want an upgrade to my FX-59.. |
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| [12:10:07] | halex-ab: | I'm surprised no-one's complained this is offtopic.. heh |
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| [12:11:08] | Zider: | halex-ab: discussing possible mythtv-FE/BE hardware isn't offtopic ;) |
| [12:11:41] | halex-ab: | Gaffa tape is.. ;) |
| [12:11:52] | Zider: | ;) |
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| [12:14:29] | caitlin: | gaffa tape is love its self |
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| [12:21:39] | dennis|nb: | i have a problem with sound: when i watch tv or dvd it walks, but not with music |
| [12:21:51] | dennis|nb: | and i cant change the volume |
| [12:22:44] | kraut: | moin |
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| [12:24:02] | Zider: | walks? |
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| [12:47:10] | dennis|nb: | how can i watch avi files? |
| [12:47:30] | dennis|nb: | i have copied an avi file to /myth/videos but it doesnt see the file |
| [12:47:30] | caitlin: | with your eyes |
| [12:47:34] | dennis|nb: | lol |
| [12:47:38] | caitlin: | run the setup |
| [12:47:45] | caitlin: | in the frontend |
| [12:47:52] | caitlin: | setup – media type fluff |
| [12:47:53] | dennis|nb: | i have set the path correct |
| [12:48:01] | caitlin: | it scans for the files and adds them to the db |
| [12:48:12] | caitlin: | they need to be in the database for myth to play them |
| [12:50:16] | dennis|nb: | ah great, it walks |
| [12:50:20] | dennis|nb: | thx caitlin |
| [12:50:43] | caitlin: | nps |
| [12:50:51] | caitlin: | if you add more you need to rescan |
| [12:51:14] | dennis|nb: | no when i start it i get a black screen |
| [12:51:20] | dennis|nb: | perhaps the codec is missing |
| [12:51:50] | caitlin: | check you can play them outside myth |
| [12:52:01] | dennis|nb: | how? mplayer? |
| [12:54:31] | dennis|nb: | mp3 playback doesnt walk too |
| [12:55:01] | dennis|nb: | does mythtv use gstreamer to playback music? |
| [12:56:03] | caitlin: | what os are you on? |
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| [12:56:17] | dennis|nb: | ubuntu |
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| [13:06:16] | dennis|nb: | arg...just had to rescan the music archive... |
| [13:06:22] | dennis|nb: | i am new to mythtv, sorry |
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| [13:15:50] | caitlin: | yeh, you;ll need to install some stuff in ubuntu |
| [13:16:02] | caitlin: | it's "legal" so wont play mp3 out of the box or dvds |
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| [13:19:04] | gardengnome: | re |
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| [13:27:39] | fryfrog: | damn, why does firewire skip so badly? |
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| [13:48:19] | caitlin: | so, when i try and edit a recording, it's only giving the option to delete before or after the current frame, how do you mark commercials? |
| [13:48:26] | dennis|nb: | hm how can i read a channels.conf, i dont get any channel when choosing the file |
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| [13:48:51] | caitlin: | if there's nothing *in* channels.conf then you've not scanned anything into it |
| [13:49:46] | dennis|nb: | the channels.conf is okay |
| [13:49:50] | gardengnome: | caitlin: well. what do you mean? how to load the commercial list? |
| [13:49:54] | dennis|nb: | with many channels in it |
| [13:50:58] | mwtb: | I'm building mythtv from source and ./configure says that alsa support is disabled. The only configure option is to disable it and I haven't set it, so is there a missing lib or something causing it? |
| [13:51:38] | caitlin: | gardengnome, yeh... maybe mythcommflag's not beed run on it |
| [13:52:15] | dennis|nb: | mwtb, have you tried --enable-alsa ? |
| [13:52:46] | mwtb: | Unknown option |
| [13:53:09] | fryfrog: | caitlin: at the *start* of a commerical, you place a "delete after" marker |
| [13:53:15] | fryfrog: | and the end, you place a "delete before" |
| [13:53:25] | fryfrog: | then, you'll see that chunk marked to be removed |
| [13:53:26] | gardengnome: | mwtb: you need to install the alsa development package |
| [13:53:35] | caitlin: | ahh |
| [13:53:38] | fryfrog: | i think you can also press a key to load the commflag list, but i forget what key |
| [13:53:39] | caitlin: | clever |
| [13:53:54] | caitlin: | i was scared it'd trash everything :P silly me |
| [13:53:57] | fryfrog: | hehe |
| [13:54:13] | caitlin: | course, they're only marker, you dont *lose* anything till you transcode... right? |
| [13:54:17] | fryfrog: | it isn't immediate either, you have to initiate a transcode for it to have stuff chopped |
| [13:54:21] | fryfrog: | right |
| [13:54:36] | caitlin: | cool |
| [13:54:51] | caitlin: | i just dont wanna lose back to the future :P |
| [13:55:16] | gardengnome: | caitlin: you can tell mythtranscode/the backend to make a backup before transcoding. it's in mythtv-setup |
| [13:55:41] | fryfrog: | does anyone hook up to their cable box with firewire? |
| [13:56:10] | mwtb: | gardengnome: Ah, found it. Ta. |
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| [14:04:45] | ts0: | anyone have myth working under gentoo (0.20)? when emerging I get ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /lib64/libmythavutil-0.20.so.0.20.0 |
| [14:05:05] | ts0: | those kinds of errors go on for many pages. very odd, I have plenty of disk available and everything seems peachy. |
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| [14:17:03] | Cardoe: | ts0: you played with some config variables in /etc/make.conf |
| [14:17:10] | ts0: | Cardoe: yessir |
| [14:17:19] | Cardoe: | what'd you play with? |
| [14:17:27] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: what's wrong? |
| [14:18:05] | ts0: | Cardoe: I have a PORTAGE_TMPDIR, a bunch of use flags, accept_keyword=~amd64, and video_cards nvidiai |
| [14:18:09] | ts0: | and layman |
| [14:18:14] | ts0: | and that's pretty much it, basic, no? |
| [14:18:37] | Cardoe: | Myth won't build with a diff portage_tmpdir |
| [14:18:44] | ts0: | wot? |
| [14:18:46] | ts0: | you're kidding |
| [14:18:54] | Cardoe: | clearly I'm not. |
| [14:18:58] | Cardoe: | if it doesn't build for you |
| [14:19:01] | ts0: | who built that brokenness |
| [14:19:13] | Cardoe: | Trolltech |
| [14:19:18] | Cardoe: | and their qmake application |
| [14:19:23] | ts0: | ah, ok |
| [14:19:26] | ts0: | that makes some sense |
| [14:19:30] | ts0: | symlinks will work, no? |
| [14:20:36] | ts0: | this was only happening on install, not built |
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| [14:23:44] | mwtb: | When building mythtv, I'm getting a failure towards the end: "undefined reference to `DVBTuning::PolarityChar() const'". Am I missing something else? |
| [14:30:32] | fryfrog: | Cardoe: My firewire source's video/audio skips |
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| [14:30:55] | fryfrog: | locally, when viewing from a FE on the slave BE, it is much better |
| [14:31:28] | gri6507: | Hi. I've never used the IRC channel to ask questions before. I have a (what I think) fairly simple question |
| [14:32:04] | gri6507: | Is it possible to have the Backend save recordings with a different naming scheme other than <channel#>_<date><time>? |
| [14:32:18] | fryfrog: | i think there is a *script* somewhere that will make "pretty" name symlinks |
| [14:32:33] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: yeah I think there is a script somewhere |
| [14:32:34] | GreyFoxx: | gri6507: Myth itself wont do that, but there are 1 or scripts in the source contrib/ directory that will do it |
| [14:32:40] | fryfrog: | Cardoe: I thought maybe it was cause my network was a bit odd |
| [14:32:42] | GreyFoxx: | mythrename.pl or some such |
| [14:32:47] | ts0: | has the postgres support gotten usable yet, or no? |
| [14:32:48] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: no idea why you're getting a skip |
| [14:32:59] | GreyFoxx: | ts0: 0 work has gone into it and likely never will |
| [14:33:03] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: you def need 100mbit switch to handle firewire though |
| [14:33:10] | ts0: | GreyFoxx: maybe i'll put up a bounty for it |
| [14:33:23] | gri6507: | Ok .. I'll try to "locate mythrename.pl" on my machine. Thanks |
| [14:33:25] | Cardoe: | no postgres |
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| [14:33:26] | fryfrog: | master be <-> gige switch <-> router 4 port 100mbit switch <-> switch down stairs <-> xbox and remote slave BE / FE |
| [14:33:37] | ts0: | bounty size might change that ;) |
| [14:33:46] | fryfrog: | so *now* my master and slave BE (and FE) are hooked right to the gige switch |
| [14:33:51] | GreyFoxx: | I doubt it,but it's your money,offer it if you will |
| [14:33:59] | fryfrog: | so master be <-> gige switch <-> slave be |
| [14:34:05] | ts0: | we'll see, this is my first time getting myth running |
| [14:34:10] | ts0: | if it's usable, i'll bounty it |
| [14:34:13] | Cardoe: | ts0: it'd be a lot of work... since it uses QT's DB abstraction... which isn't supported in QT for Postgres |
| [14:34:16] | ts0: | if it's not, here's not much point |
| [14:34:32] | ts0: | Cardoe: someone was suggesting some kind of mediation system with an embedded DB that spooled to postgres |
| [14:34:35] | Cardoe: | GreyFoxx: have you seen people getting DB errors with the "recordedprogram" table? |
| [14:34:39] | GreyFoxx: | I've been playing around with using embedded mysql |
| [14:34:41] | ts0: | Cardoe: have to look at that again |
| [14:35:06] | GreyFoxx: | Cardoe: Hmmm , nothing I've noticed here that I can think of offhand |
| [14:35:39] | Cardoe: | it happened to me a while back |
| [14:35:46] | Cardoe: | and now I just got a bug report again as well. |
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| [14:35:54] | GreyFoxx: | I've been play with getting QT 3.3.x working with embedded mysql if only to help users dealing with problems configuring mysql |
| [14:35:59] | Cardoe: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150356 |
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| [14:37:45] | GreyFoxx: | hmmmm table doesn'texist? Weird. I did a 0.19 -> 0.20 upgrade yesterday at work and it worked without a hitch |
| [14:37:55] | ** GreyFoxx goesto look in dbcheck ** | |
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| [14:43:42] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, that table is created in dbver 1075, and myth 0.19 was 1123 so if 0.19 was working then recordedprograms must have existed and it not touched again until that failure in his log |
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| [14:54:07] | fryfrog: | Damnit, I just don't fucking get it! Why is this shit skipping? |
| [14:54:16] | fryfrog: | dstat doesn't show excesive network or cpu usage |
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| [14:55:29] | riksta: | hi anyone use the UK interactive MHEG stuff with myth? |
| [14:58:26] | ts0: | fryfrog: interrupt issue of some kind? |
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| [14:59:26] | fryfrog: | irq you mean? |
| [15:00:06] | DigerLAP: | on my manual install with a sata drive I used gparted to get it close to right? and it says on the manuall install of knoppmyth /sde instead of /sda like I thought it would say |
| [15:00:09] | DigerLAP: | is that ok |
| [15:00:20] | fryfrog: | thats odd |
| [15:00:48] | ts0: | yes, irq |
| [15:00:57] | ts0: | dmesg reveal anything? |
| [15:01:01] | fryfrog: | I don't see anything in dmesg :( |
| [15:01:05] | ts0: | what scheduler are you using? |
| [15:01:10] | fryfrog: | so i just changed channels to sci fi, and it didn't skip for a while |
| [15:01:15] | ts0: | take a look at lspci? |
| [15:01:16] | fryfrog: | disk scheduler? |
| [15:01:32] | ts0: | well, in 2.6, there are kernel scheduling and disk scheduling items |
| [15:01:36] | ts0: | i was more concerned about the prior |
| [15:01:39] | dennis|nb: | what is the correct mixer devicer when i use alsa:default? |
| [15:01:46] | fryfrog: | kernel scheduler? |
| [15:01:51] | fryfrog: | what would you suggest? |
| [15:02:05] | fryfrog: | i think my slave be / fe is set to "desktop" kernel latency |
| [15:02:10] | fryfrog: | and the backend set to server |
| [15:02:23] | fryfrog: | but i doubt that is the problem |
| [15:02:28] | ts0: | the fw is in the real backend, right? |
| [15:02:29] | fryfrog: | I can play HDTV just *fine* using my air2pc cards |
| [15:02:32] | riksta: | dennis|nb: it's in the wiki IIRC |
| [15:02:47] | fryfrog: | no, firewire is on slave backend which is at the tv, with the "main" front end |
| [15:02:54] | ts0: | ah, ok |
| [15:02:59] | dennis|nb: | riksta, in what wiki? sorry i used the german knoppmyth wiki for now |
| [15:03:03] | ts0: | well, the cards all have encoders on them |
| [15:03:15] | riksta: | dennis|nb: the one in the channel topic |
| [15:03:16] | ts0: | if you're taking firewire in, you're having to encode the video on the CPU, no? |
| [15:03:22] | GreyFoxx: | no |
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| [15:03:31] | fryfrog: | uh, i think firewire output is in mpeg format |
| [15:03:33] | GreyFoxx: | DIgital cable is broadcast encoded |
| [15:03:36] | GreyFoxx: | you are just receording it |
| [15:03:41] | dennis|nb: | riksta, ah okay thanks |
| [15:03:43] | ts0: | oh, I misunderstood |
| [15:03:56] | fryfrog: | cpu usage of slave backend goes to 3% when i watch firewire input |
| [15:04:03] | ts0: | hmm |
| [15:04:05] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: this is firewire though |
| [15:04:15] | GreyFoxx: | same thing |
| [15:04:24] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [15:04:31] | ts0: | yay, mythtv merged |
| [15:04:33] | fryfrog: | my FE is only using 3% cpu playing an SD channel |
| [15:04:51] | fryfrog: | master fe, that is |
| [15:05:12] | fryfrog: | but it skips like plays audio & video for 1–2 sec, pauses for half a sec or so, then resumes |
| [15:05:36] | fryfrog: | I've been watching for ~1:30 |
| [15:05:40] | fryfrog: | if i rewind to the start |
| [15:05:44] | fryfrog: | it *still* skips |
| [15:05:55] | fryfrog: | even though i have almost 2 minutes in buffer |
| [15:06:04] | GreyFoxx: | broadcasting over the network? |
| [15:06:20] | GreyFoxx: | What kind of BW between the two machines ? |
| [15:07:36] | nordle: | haha, Im proud of myself, I logged into irc and went into #mythtv-users instead of what I usually do which is go into #mythtv and ask a question to be told TOPIC (rightly so). hello :) Does anyone know, the ability to import channels.conf, I produced the list using scan -o zap -u /uk-trans.txt /tmp/channels.conf But the scduling shows "Unknown" for most channels, which is annoying. So what method to produce channels.conf using latest dvb-apps is be |
| [15:07:42] | RyeBrye3: | Ediehow: you sitll up? Did you get your lirc working? |
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| [15:07:57] | tam: | is there a way in mythtv that you don't have to scan for teh channels if you already have a channels.conf file? i'd just like to copy it to my .mythtv/ directory (obviously changing it to chanels.conf.xmltv) would that work? |
| [15:07:59] | dennis|nb: | riksta, i cant find that in the wiki, sorry |
| [15:08:13] | tam: | the reason i am asking is because i can't get it to scan for channels (i'm in the UK) |
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| [15:08:37] | fryfrog: | yeah, you can import a channels.conf |
| [15:08:39] | nordle: | tam: weird, talking similar thing. I imported my channels.conf, so yeah you can do it, via mythtv-setup |
| [15:08:58] | riksta: | dennis|nb: i think it might just be "default" |
| [15:09:03] | tam: | now to the dumb part...how would one get myth to recognise it tho? |
| [15:09:16] | fryfrog: | 2006-10–07 11:08:59.689 NVP: Waiting for prebuffer.. 3 ALAUUAUAAUUAAUAALAAAUAAAAAuAAUA |
| [15:09:25] | fryfrog: | 2006-10–07 11:09:00.046 Ignoring livetv eof in decoder loop |
| [15:09:31] | fryfrog: | I see a lot of those type of log entries |
| [15:09:35] | riksta: | dennis|nb: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html |
| [15:09:47] | nordle: | tam: im uk too, found the option to "slow scanning, or fix for cx88" to help. |
| [15:09:57] | dennis|nb: | riksta, default worked, thanks :) |
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| [15:10:28] | tam: | nordle: where abouts is that? i can't seem to see it |
| [15:10:45] | nordle: | tam: But I got most channels with dvb-apps scan, but it messed up the scheduling as the channels are mostly marked "unknown" which is why im here........ hang on ill check now. |
| [15:11:10] | tam: | thanks nordle |
| [15:11:14] | riksta: | great |
| [15:11:18] | fryfrog: | if plugreport says "data_rate=2" does that mean 200 in mythtv-setup? |
| [15:11:22] | dennis|nb: | how can i sort channels and delete unneeded? |
| [15:11:30] | DigerLAP: | when partitioning in cfdisk, when I create each partition, should Primary be chosen on each one |
| [15:11:49] | riksta: | dennis|nb: pretty much just using mysql at the moment i believe |
| [15:12:19] | fryfrog: | DigerLAP: you can only have 4 primary partitions |
| [15:12:24] | fryfrog: | so if you have 4 or less, use that |
| [15:12:40] | fryfrog: | if not, you can have 3 primary, 1 extended (which is a primary) and lots more inside that extrended one |
| [15:13:13] | nordle: | tam: sorry, flippin batteries appeared to have died on keyboard.....not sure if i got more, maybe I can xforward, brb 5 mins. |
| [15:14:00] | tam: | nordle: it's cool...don't worry about it man |
| [15:14:37] | Paladine: | is there anyway to force mythfrontend to give up the soundcard for my games without having to close the frontend? |
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| [15:15:36] | DigerLAP: | in knoppymyth on the manual install what file system do you use on /sde1 (my sata drive) |
| [15:15:40] | DigerLAP: | ext 3? |
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| [15:20:36] | DigerLAP: | in knoppymyth on the manual install what file system do you use on /sde1 (my sata drive) I dont see ext3 in the types |
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| [15:25:02] | nordle: | tam: vncviewer saved the day :) mythtv-setup --> Capture Cards --> Recording Options --> TV Tuner Delay ( I set mine to 250). |
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| [15:26:43] | Paladine: | hmmm must to add "Please add button in mythfrontend to free up the sound device" to mythfrontend wiki wishlist... |
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| [15:28:22] | RyeBrye3: | Anyone know if today's woot will work on Linux with a Mythbox? |
| [15:28:27] | RyeBrye3: | (the $30 wireless keyboard) |
| [15:29:22] | Paladine: | I use wireless kb and wireless optical mouse with linux, but not sure what a woot is |
| [15:29:37] | RyeBrye3: | Woot is: http://www.woot.com |
| [15:29:53] | RyeBrye3: | They put one (usually tech related) item up every night at Midnight Central time US |
| [15:29:53] | DigerLAP: | should I be concerned that my manuall install is detecting my sata drive as sde instead of sda |
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| [15:30:28] | RyeBrye3: | It's a cheap setup. It claims it's for a mac, but that's just because it has a power button on the keyboard and is white... The description goes on to say that it's compatible with PC's too |
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| [15:31:21] | nordle: | DigerLAP: not really, do other distros see it as sda then? some mobo's have the "primary" sata device on the raid chip, so everything else follows afterwards, could be that. |
| [15:31:32] | RyeBrye: | Do wireless keyboards ususally do Keypress -> RF signal ->|| USB Reciver -> Translate RF signal into standard USB Keypress signal || -> Computer? |
| [15:31:46] | RyeBrye: | as in – would an RF keyboard tend to look to an OS like a standard USB keyboard? |
| [15:32:06] | Paladine: | rye, mine seems too |
| [15:32:12] | RyeBrye: | Hmm |
| [15:32:20] | RyeBrye: | That makes this $30 keyboard really tempting |
| [15:32:26] | Paladine: | the wireless receiver I assume does all the work and just passes a translated signal via usb |
| [15:32:41] | RyeBrye: | Yeah. That's what I would assume is the logical approach too |
| [15:32:41] | Paladine: | because I don't have any drivers installed for my wireless keyboard |
| [15:32:48] | RyeBrye: | What brand is yours? |
| [15:33:01] | Paladine: | works on every system I plug it into even if there is no OS installed yet |
| [15:33:09] | Paladine: | I have a Logitech |
| [15:33:26] | Paladine: | Internet Desktop Pro or something |
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| [15:33:42] | RyeBrye: | Hmmm... Maybe I should hold off on this Kensington woot and just wait for the big sales in the US that happen on the day after thanksgiving and pick one up then... |
| [15:34:25] | RyeBrye: | I just got LIRC working last night... and I need to keep my overall costs down on this box because I promised my wife I would not turn it into a money pit... and although a wireless keyboard is a "really nice to have" – it's not necessarily a "must have" |
| [15:34:30] | DigerLAP: | gparted saw it as SDA |
| [15:34:49] | RyeBrye: | (plus I just threw down $50 for a set of DC -> USB adapaters so I can use my Dreamcast Arcade Sticks with xmame) |
| [15:36:09] | nordle: | I got this mini RF keyboard at the top, via usb, works on Slackware 11.0 using 2.6.18 (only one I tried it on) http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/Keyso_Key.html |
| [15:36:36] | nordle: | the touch pad with scroll section works too. |
| [15:37:07] | RyeBrye: | nordle = that's cool |
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| [15:38:16] | nordle: | RyeBrye: got most of the functions down on imon remote, but sometimes a keyboard is useful, its small enough to just hide beside the box. |
| [15:39:16] | teapot: | hi :) |
| [15:39:35] | teapot: | are there any debianites here ? |
| [15:40:19] | caitlin: | sort of |
| [15:40:21] | caitlin: | i work with it |
| [15:40:29] | teapot: | I'm trying to understand the logic of why there's a debian package for lirc |
| [15:40:47] | caitlin: | how so? |
| [15:41:12] | teapot: | I'm just getting going with mythtv, and I haven't got lirc going yet |
| [15:41:35] | teapot: | I've installed the lirc deb, but obviously it can't contain any kernel modules not so? |
| [15:42:20] | teapot: | As I understand it, I need to get the tarball of lirc, compile it, and then I'll have the necessary kernel module for the IR on my Hauppauge 350 card. |
| [15:42:53] | teapot: | Am I making sense ? |
| [15:43:08] | caitlin: | not really |
| [15:43:12] | caitlin: | i didn't need to do that |
| [15:43:19] | teapot: | Oh |
| [15:43:21] | teapot: | wow |
| [15:43:27] | caitlin: | the kernel module gets the hardware in the card working |
| [15:43:39] | caitlin: | so you can get the data from the ir input splat |
| [15:43:47] | Ad_: | Is there anyone here who has written any kernel code and/or has any good suggestion of how to implement a delay of say 20 ms |
| [15:43:55] | caitlin: | then lirc intreprets it and feeds it to the apps so they understand it |
| [15:43:57] | dennis|nb: | teapot, did you choose the hauppauge module on ./configure? |
| [15:44:04] | caitlin: | unless i've really missed what it's for |
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| [15:44:22] | teapot: | dennis|nb: are you reffering to the lirc build process ? |
| [15:44:26] | dennis|nb: | yes |
| [15:44:41] | teapot: | caitlin: do you have a module loaded for your IR ? |
| [15:44:48] | caitlin: | um |
| [15:44:51] | caitlin: | ircommon? |
| [15:44:58] | teapot: | dennis|nb: I haven't compiled lirc – I just installed the deb |
| [15:45:02] | dennis|nb: | ah okay |
| [15:45:18] | dennis|nb: | so do you have any lirc modules in your modules-tree? |
| [15:45:23] | teapot: | caitlin: where does ircommon come from ? |
| [15:45:27] | dennis|nb: | well i needed modules |
| [15:45:28] | caitlin: | ir_common, sorry |
| [15:45:32] | teapot: | dennis|nb: no, I don't |
| [15:45:35] | dennis|nb: | but i compiled it myself |
| [15:45:40] | caitlin: | it came free with ununtu :P |
| [15:45:52] | teapot: | caitlin: aaaah :) |
| [15:46:17] | caitlin: | my card is the nova-t |
| [15:46:26] | caitlin: | if that makes any difference to anythin |
| [15:46:29] | teapot: | caitlin: ok |
| [15:46:52] | caitlin: | i had to patch ir-common and recompile it, but lirc just *worked* |
| [15:47:03] | teapot: | I'm just trying to avoid compiling packages if there are debs available |
| [15:47:11] | caitlin: | i dunno what hardware there is on the 350 |
| [15:48:18] | teapot: | I just can't understand why there's a deb for lirc, if there's no deb for the lirc-drivers |
| [15:48:23] | dennis|nb: | isnt there an easy method to sort channels? |
| [15:48:43] | caitlin: | what's lirc-drivers? |
| [15:51:28] | teapot: | caitlin: I did an apt-cache search lirc, and didn't find it |
| [15:51:28] | teapot: | Maybe it exists though |
| [15:51:28] | teapot: | perhaps something in my apt config is b0rked |
| [15:51:28] | teapot: | gah! |
| [15:51:28] | teapot: | lirc-modules-source ! |
| [15:51:30] | ** teapot must be blind ** | |
| [15:51:57] | caitlin: | or made of chocolate |
| [15:52:26] | teapot: | heh |
| [15:52:35] | caitlin: | :) |
| [15:53:25] | caitlin: | any of you lot in the uk? using xml from radio times? |
| [15:55:25] | caitlin: | bloody robin hood isn't showing up in my listings, and i dont understand why |
| [15:55:54] | caitlin: | it's called "to be announced" and i feel it's been advertised enough :P |
| [15:55:59] | caitlin: | what can you see? |
| [15:57:22] | ts0: | ivtv needs a lobotomy |
| [15:57:37] | caitlin: | too sentient? |
| [15:57:56] | ts0: | it doesn't need to make me install video drivers for things I don't have |
| [15:57:57] | ts0: | in the kernel |
| [15:58:00] | ts0: | just because it feels cheeky |
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| [15:59:39] | fryfrog: | Damn you firewire, I don't get it! |
| [16:00:48] | GreyFoxx: | ts0: What is it requiring? |
| [16:01:06] | fryfrog: | I wish the stupid cable company had brought me a 6200 like I asked :/ |
| [16:01:25] | ts0: | GreyFoxx: the ivtv emerge requires a whole set of video drivers, rather than just the one for my card |
| [16:01:32] | ts0: | brb, have to reblewt |
| [16:01:39] | fryfrog: | ts0: that'd be myth, not ivtv doing that? |
| [16:01:40] | ts0: | actually, no I don't, what am I thinking |
| [16:01:44] | ts0: | no, ivtv |
| [16:01:45] | ts0: | I have a PVR-150 |
| [16:01:53] | GreyFoxx: | What specifically is it asking you to setup ? :) |
| [16:01:54] | fryfrog: | what is the ebuild bringing in? |
| [16:02:00] | fryfrog: | it should only bring in pvr-firmware and ivtv |
| [16:02:05] | fryfrog: | well, sorry for 0.8.0 |
| [16:02:22] | fryfrog: | the 0.4.x series should build modules for some things that are in the kernel too though? |
| [16:02:32] | fryfrog: | but no *video* drivers (ie, via, nvidia, intel, ati) |
| [16:02:49] | ts0: | 0.7.0 requires me to set not ust CONFIG_VIDEO_CX25840 but a ton of other items |
| [16:02:59] | fryfrog: | oh, right |
| [16:03:03] | fryfrog: | those aren't video drivers :) |
| [16:03:07] | ts0: | is my point |
| [16:03:07] | ts0: | for instance, if I had a cx25840-based board |
| [16:03:09] | fryfrog: | those are like tuner modules, decoder modules, etc |
| [16:03:26] | ts0: | video in the broader sense, not in the GPU sense |
| [16:03:34] | ts0: | suppose I should get pedantic with it |
| [16:03:36] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [16:03:49] | fryfrog: | i thought you meant ivtv was pulling in nvidia drivers |
| [16:03:53] | fryfrog: | which mythtv *will* do |
| [16:04:08] | fryfrog: | ivtv simply checks that your kernel has the correct modules |
| [16:04:13] | ts0: | right |
| [16:04:15] | fryfrog: | if you goto drivers, then umm, multimedia |
| [16:04:20] | ts0: | brb, going back to run mythtv-setup to fix the brokenness |
| [16:04:27] | ts0: | the drivers are all set right now |
| [16:04:28] | fryfrog: | and then in .17 and .18 kernels, i believe you can pick which extra moduels to compile |
| [16:04:31] | ts0: | I was just bitching needlessly |
| [16:04:35] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [16:04:45] | DigerLAP: | I am doing a manual install of KNOPPMYTH to a sata drive and the knoppmyth pamplet says that in LOAD CONFIG I should change /KNOPPMYTH/knoppmyth to /KNOPPMYTH/knoppmyth-sata and in doing so it now says ERROR: Check failed for HD_CHOICE (/dev/sda1). In cfdisk it shows my sata as SDE and not a SDA so can I edit a file so that it will work or what? |
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| [16:05:13] | fryfrog: | sorry, i dunno a think about knoppmyth |
| [16:05:26] | GreyFoxx: | Sweet, got a mini webbased interface to the frontend telnet controls heh. If I come up with some icons I can use this with my touchscreen |
| [16:05:43] | fryfrog: | ahha |
| [16:06:34] | RyeBrye: | DigerLAP – is this your first install of Myth? |
| [16:07:17] | RyeBrye: | The reason I ask is because I was going to use KnoppMyth because of it's supposed ease-of-install, but found the installer severely lacking so I switched to a different distro to install with |
| [16:09:02] | DigerLAP: | yes |
| [16:09:27] | RyeBrye: | I found that Fedora Core 5 plus a document called "Fedora Mythology" (google for that phrase and it's the number 1 result) was really helpful and easy |
| [16:09:42] | RyeBrye: | I thnk Fedora will probably be more friendly to the SATA HD situation than Knoppix... |
| [16:09:50] | RyeBrye: | What tuner cards are you going to be using? |
| [16:10:06] | DigerLAP: | its a knoppix boot install cd |
| [16:10:09] | DigerLAP: | never heard of it? |
| [16:10:15] | RyeBrye: | Fedora? |
| [16:10:41] | RyeBrye: | It's by the Redhat people... they used to call it redhad but decided to change the name... probably to distinguish it from the Redhat Enterprise server |
| [16:10:49] | DigerLAP: | this will prolly hook me up |
| [16:10:50] | DigerLAP: | http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . ght=hdchoice |
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| [16:11:07] | DigerLAP: | no i have head of fedora, i run that on my server |
| [16:11:12] | RyeBrye: | Oh ok |
| [16:11:36] | jams: | GreyFoxx- nice |
| [16:11:40] | RyeBrye: | Take a gander at http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php if you want to see what an install on Fedora would be like... It was fairly easy for me to do and there are RPMs for just about everything... |
| [16:12:04] | RyeBrye: | of course – if you can get KnoppMyth to work, there seems to be a pretty active support wiki for that distro |
| [16:12:29] | zoibee: | hi, i`m having a problem with digital audio and mythtv. I didnt have any problem getting sound in X and music/video, but a have no sound during live tv |
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| [16:13:10] | zoibee: | a = i :P |
| [16:13:15] | Weezey: | how do I set up kmix with my PVR-350 so that I can use my volume control in mythfrontend |
| [16:13:31] | caitlin: | zoibee, ps aux | grep nobeep |
| [16:13:35] | caitlin: | just out of curiosity |
| [16:13:42] | caitlin: | i had that issue a couple of days back |
| [16:13:54] | caitlin: | killed some shit with -nobeep and got sound back |
| [16:13:59] | caitlin: | rebooted and it was fine |
| [16:14:03] | zoibee: | no prosess with that name :) |
| [16:14:06] | speedsix: | Would it be possible to connect an Xbox to some sort of component/vga capture card on the pc and display the output in myth? |
| [16:14:56] | zoibee: | speedsix: that would be like tv wouldnt it? |
| [16:15:02] | DigerLAP: | hell i cant edit this damn file |
| [16:15:51] | speedsix: | zoibee, yeah :) Basically I want to be able to record game output and also I wouldn't need to use my crappy vga switchbox for the tv (both pc/xbox use vga) |
| [16:16:57] | RyeBrye: | along the same lines as speedsix's question – can I set up an input on my PVR-500 to use the composite-in for my old Dreamcast...? How would I set that up? (if there is a doc somewhere, I can go read it) |
| [16:17:11] | teapot: | caitlin: as a matter of interest, did you have to compile the ivtv kernel modules, or did they come standard with Ubuntu ? |
| [16:17:20] | caitlin: | standard |
| [16:17:29] | caitlin: | ubuntu is depressingly easy to work with |
| [16:17:30] | teapot: | Ubuntu ++ |
| [16:17:32] | caitlin: | it just does |
| [16:17:46] | teapot: | Mark Shuttleworth ++ |
| [16:17:48] | caitlin: | i've compiled sod all except that outdated module |
| [16:18:06] | caitlin: | and that was hauppages fault since they made a brand spanking new remote |
| [16:18:17] | teapot: | right |
| [16:18:21] | RyeBrye: | I'm not using Ubuntu – but I saw an article title along the lines of "I'm sorry, I'm leaving you for your hotter, easier daughter." about people switching from Debian to Ubuntu |
| [16:18:25] | superm1: | caitlin, the ivtv modules – did you use module-assistant |
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| [16:18:33] | caitlin: | nope |
| [16:18:42] | caitlin: | not that i know of |
| [16:18:52] | superm1: | well ivtv shouldnt be standard in ubuntu as of yet. |
| [16:18:59] | caitlin: | incidently i just used your new .debs to update mythtv and it all seems good |
| [16:19:14] | caitlin: | maybe i dont use ivtv then :$ |
| [16:19:15] | superm1: | oh really? |
| [16:19:28] | superm1: | the transcoding thing fixed? |
| [16:19:32] | caitlin: | seems to be |
| [16:19:37] | caitlin: | did you look at the mysql |
| [16:19:44] | superm1: | haven't gotten a chance to yet |
| [16:19:51] | superm1: | been busy with other stuff :( |
| [16:19:53] | caitlin: | i shaved a third off a 30 min episode with it |
| [16:19:56] | caitlin: | and it seems to play ok |
| [16:20:13] | superm1: | well i'll have to experiment with this then |
| [16:20:15] | caitlin: | that was "low quality" which doesn't seem a huge reduction, but i'm still working out what goes on :P |
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| [16:20:58] | RyeBrye: | My transcoding hasn't seemed to be doing anything |
| [16:21:06] | RyeBrye: | what version are you running that fixes that? |
| [16:21:08] | superm1: | for everyone else in the room, regards to ivtv in ubuntu. Edgy got ivtv added. There is a source and utils package. Both need to be installed, and then whenever a new kernel is installed, you run module-assistant to build the ivtv module for the new kernel. |
| [16:21:30] | superm1: | RyeBrye, what source are you transcoding from? |
| [16:21:52] | DigerLAP: | AHH this pc has a multimedia card reading device and thats why it was reading it as SDE instead of SDA, I inplugged it and now its reading it right |
| [16:21:56] | RyeBrye: | what source? The output of my PVR-500... an mpeg2 file |
| [16:21:56] | tam: | where does mythtv look for the username/password? i thought it was in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt but whenever i change it and try and run mythtv again its still not noticed..can anyone correct me? |
| [16:23:12] | superm1: | RyeBrye, transcoding should work fine from a pvr500. If you are by chance running into the same problem as caitlin and I however, there is a fix that caitlin came up with |
| [16:24:12] | RyeBrye: | I guess the better quesiton is – how can I tell if transcoding did anything? I tried transcoding a few files, and then checking in my System Info – and the average size... etc. stayed the same and the files looked the same |
| [16:24:17] | RyeBrye: | I've not looked into it much yet |
| [16:24:28] | superm1: | well depends which transcoding profile you try |
| [16:24:32] | superm1: | if you use the default profile |
| [16:24:40] | superm1: | then the only time it snips stuff out is if you make a cutlist |
| [16:24:40] | teapot: | tam: mythtv/mythweb-htaccess.conf |
| [16:24:52] | teapot: | tam: mysql also stores it |
| [16:24:56] | RyeBrye: | Ok... from commflag... etc? |
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| [16:26:12] | superm1: | well not directly from commflag.... if you open up a recording. hit E to go in edit mode. then hit Z to load your comm flag list. this serves as a starting point. If the commercials are all flagged perfectly, go ahead and hit escape and then you have a "cutlist" put in and you can transocde |
| [16:26:21] | superm1: | if they arent, you can correct them from within the editor |
| [16:26:38] | RyeBrye: | Oh, that's how you get that to work |
| [16:26:45] | superm1: | hehe |
| [16:27:11] | RyeBrye: | I'll go play around with it some and actually monitor file sizes and such |
| [16:27:24] | RyeBrye: | I've got to head out now... thanks for the tip :) |
| [16:27:38] | superm1: | yup |
| [16:28:08] | dennis|nb: | what does "no lock" mean while scanning a transponder? |
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| [16:31:41] | tam: | teapot: still the same when i change it...same error |
| [16:31:55] | DigerLAP: | man after I loaded all files to hdd and rebooted I got |
| [16:31:56] | DigerLAP: | Kernal Panic – not syncing: Attempted to Kill init! |
| [16:32:18] | DigerLAP: | and lots of Mount:No such device or address scrolled by |
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| [16:32:33] | tam: | teapot: and thats me changing the database user and not just a pass and its still saying mythtv using password 'YES' but i'm not using mythtv as the db user |
| [16:32:48] | dennis|nb: | anybody from germany here? |
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| [16:35:51] | roger55: | DigerLAP, probably wrong fstab/ bootloader config |
| [16:36:07] | DigerLAP: | i dont know what to do or check |
| [16:36:17] | DigerLAP: | edit fstab? |
| [16:36:28] | roger55: | DigerLAP, check the fstab and correct it, yes. |
| [16:36:44] | zoibee: | DigerLAP: edit fstab, comment out every line but root partition and swap and retry |
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| [16:37:19] | DigerLAP: | k |
| [16:40:55] | ShockValue: | hi all.. im trying to get firewire+dct6200 to work. currently when i try to watch livetv, it just spews a bunch of codec info, but i dont get any picture/sound |
| [16:40:55] | ShockValue: | a sample of what i mean is here: http://pastebin.ca/194180 |
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| [16:41:55] | SkaFreak: | Hey everyone, I have everything running on mythtv, but whenever I try to watch TV it just comes up as static, any ideas? |
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| [16:43:05] | caitlin: | you're watching the SNOW station |
| [16:43:51] | SkaFreak: | no, it's not even snow |
| [16:44:00] | SkaFreak: | it's more horixontal lines of static |
| [16:44:10] | SkaFreak: | not nearly as entertaining as the snow network |
| [16:44:12] | DigerLAP: | im not super sure what fstab is supposed to look like roger55 but it appears correct |
| [16:44:15] | DigerLAP: | its showing my drives |
| [16:44:24] | DigerLAP: | or drive with partitions rather |
| [16:44:25] | caitlin: | driving snow channel |
| [16:44:45] | caitlin: | does watching telly work *outside* mythtv? |
| [16:44:51] | jams: | anybody know where the font is defined for the setup screens? |
| [16:45:13] | SkaFreak: | it's the first thing I've tried under linux, but yes it works from windows |
| [16:45:23] | caitlin: | not the same |
| [16:45:26] | gandalfcome: | I bought a terratec cinergy 1400 today and built it into my server running mythtv backend. do I have to install drivers? how can I see that linux detected the card? |
| [16:45:36] | caitlin: | see if you can get the tv card to display pictures outside mythtv |
| [16:45:40] | SkaFreak: | I figured, I wasn't sure though |
| [16:45:50] | gandalfcome: | caitlin, was that aimed at me? |
| [16:45:59] | roger55: | DigerLAP, what did you mean by DigerLAP| man after I loaded all files to hdd and rebooted I got |
| [16:46:12] | SkaFreak: | whats a good tv tuner program other than myth to try caitlin? |
| [16:46:17] | ShockValue: | anyone seen these kind of errors before? AFD: Opened codec 0x952f790, id(MPEG2VIDEO) type(Video) |
| [16:46:23] | DigerLAP: | im using knoppmyth as a myth installer |
| [16:46:29] | caitlin: | i have to go pick up my gf from work |
| [16:46:31] | ShockValue: | its what is getting spammed on my screen isntead of my TV show :/ |
| [16:46:39] | caitlin: | google parker1 and see if his instructions make any sense |
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| [16:47:00] | roger55: | DigerLAP, post your fstab and bootloader configs to http://rafb.net/paste so we can take a look |
| [16:47:32] | DigerLAP: | where is lilo.conf located |
| [16:48:57] | roger55: | DigerLAP, /etc/lilo.conf ? |
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| [16:50:55] | Weezey: | I have the PVR-350 audio out going into the line in on my sound card, and it comes out the output, but the volume adjustment has no effect on the sound. |
| [16:51:06] | Weezey: | any thoughts |
| [16:51:07] | Weezey: | ? |
| [16:52:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | Weezey: I'm not sure the PVR350's audio output has a hardware volume control. Did you find any info in the wiki or archives? |
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| [16:54:42] | Weezey: | Everything I've read says that if you output from the PVR-350 then you can have the video go straight to your TV and the audio to the line in on your soundcard and then back out your soundcard's output |
| [16:54:48] | Weezey: | that way you can control the volume. |
| [16:55:13] | Weezey: | but the volume's going straight through. Where's the Master/PCM option for volume controlling in myth? |
| [16:55:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | Weezey: So you probably have to select your sound card's mixer... |
| [16:56:14] | DigerLAP: | here it is roger55 I had to type it by hand since I cant remote into the knoppix |
| [16:56:15] | DigerLAP: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/HKtXZw34.html |
| [16:57:07] | DigerLAP: | and I cant seem to find a lilo.conf on /ect |
| [16:57:16] | DigerLAP: | and I cant seem to find a lilo.conf on /ETC |
| [16:57:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | Weezy: mythfrontend -> Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> General — 3rd page "Audio" |
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| [16:57:46] | Weezey: | that did it, it was set to PCM |
| [16:57:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | DigerLAP: maybe /boot ? |
| [16:57:56] | Weezey: | I put it to Master and I can control it. |
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| [16:57:59] | DigerLAP: | nope |
| [17:00:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | DigerLAP: I'd search for it then... "find / -name lilo.conf" I don't use lilo, so the only other thing I can suggest is the find command an/or googling... |
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| [17:05:23] | SkaFreak: | ok...so apparently it seems that PVR card is working but I can not tune it to a channel. trying mplayer /dev/video0 or mplayer /dev/v4l/video0 both come out static, mythtv just comes out static, and I haven't been able to configure any other programs to show anything |
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| [17:07:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | SkaFreak: Sounds like the tuner type wasn't detected properly. You probably need to add a line to specify the tuner type... |
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| [17:09:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | SkaFreak: What's the tuner card btw? |
| [17:11:35] | SkaFreak: | ok |
| [17:11:39] | SkaFreak: | it's a PVR-150 |
| [17:12:59] | xuxa: | I've got a really basic question... I'm setting up a PC3000 HDTV card with MythTV. Can I receive only regular broadcast signal *or* DVB signals, or can I get both at the same time? |
| [17:13:39] | roger55: | DigerLAP, huh? that is the fstab of the koppix cd not yours |
| [17:13:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | SkaFreak: Yeah, that's probably the issue. I don't have a 150 in my system, but I've got a 250 and 500 – I was fortunate enough that it worked 'plug & play', but others have had to set the tuners manually... |
| [17:14:07] | SkaFreak: | although it seems to see it as a PVR-150 |
| [17:14:18] | SkaFreak: | the only errors I get when I bring up ivtv are: |
| [17:14:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | xuxa: Yuo can recieve one at a time — it's only one tuner after all. It's got both HD and Analog tuner modes though. Kinda like your radio can do both AM and FM, but not at the same time! |
| [17:14:34] | SkaFreak: | actually...it tells me my problem |
| [17:14:37] | SkaFreak: | ivtv0: Failed to load module tuner |
| [17:14:38] | SkaFreak: | ivtv0: Failed to load module tda9887 |
| [17:14:38] | SkaFreak: | ivtv0: Failed to load module cx25840 |
| [17:14:38] | SkaFreak: | ivtv0: Failed to load module wm8775 |
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| [17:14:58] | SkaFreak: | but it does see it as a PVR 150 on the last line |
| [17:15:19] | SkaFreak: | ivtv0: Initialized Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150, card #0 |
| [17:15:48] | xuxa: | J-e-f-f-A: aha! That makes a lot of sense. Thanks! |
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| [17:16:08] | zoibee: | SkaFreak: try to reboot or remove/add the card in myth-setup |
| [17:16:36] | SkaFreak: | zoibee, I have tried both of those |
| [17:16:51] | SkaFreak: | it's not a mythtv problem it doesn't look like, think it's an issue with ivtv |
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| [17:18:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | SkaFreak: You're right about it being an ivtv issue — the 'Failed to load module" messages are the root of your issue... I'd persue it with the ivtv folks, as I'm not sure what else to try atm. |
| [17:19:11] | DigerLAP: | roger55s thats the fstab on the sda1 |
| [17:19:15] | DigerLAP: | not from the cd |
| [17:19:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | SkaFreak: I'd look at my dmesg output for ivtv, but my system's been running 30+ days, and it's long since roled off... |
| [17:19:22] | DigerLAP: | im using the cd to navigate around the hdd |
| [17:19:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | s/roled/rolled/ |
| [17:19:33] | DigerLAP: | i do not see a lilo.conf nowheres |
| [17:19:38] | SkaFreak: | ok |
| [17:19:42] | DigerLAP: | not do I see any installed dirs |
| [17:19:48] | DigerLAP: | .ike /myth |
| [17:19:53] | DigerLAP: | nada |
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| [17:23:30] | Weezey: | If the PVR-350 is set to output the video I've got it working perfectly, but there's no sound when I'm playing a DVD. |
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| [17:24:18] | Hoxzer: | Aargh |
| [17:24:32] | Hoxzer: | My life was cutt off like 3 seconds |
| [17:24:40] | Hoxzer: | "connection timedout" |
| [17:25:01] | SkaFreak: | alright, this is good/bad |
| [17:25:13] | SkaFreak: | I just tried modprobing all of those by hand, and it works now |
| [17:25:24] | roger55: | DigerLAP, you haven't specified a / partition in there, that can't be right. |
| [17:25:32] | SkaFreak: | so the autoload from ivtv doesn't work, but at least I can watch tv |
| [17:27:28] | DigerLAP: | whaaaaaaa |
| [17:28:32] | DigerLAP: | i donno wtf is going on |
| [17:30:13] | roger55: | DigerLAP, if you want help with this you need to provide more info. |
| [17:30:35] | roger55: | DigerLAP, where is your / partition, your bootloader config etc... |
| [17:31:49] | DigerLAP: | im no linux expert |
| [17:32:12] | DigerLAP: | my / partition is /sda1 |
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| [17:32:22] | DigerLAP: | lilo is on the mbr |
| [17:32:31] | DigerLAP: | . /sda |
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| [17:33:23] | roger55: | and what filesystem is on sda1 ? |
| [17:34:19] | DigerLAP: | EXT3 |
| [17:35:05] | roger55: | then change the line from /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ext3 noauto,users,exec 0 0 to /dev/sda1 / ext3 noatime 0 1 |
| [17:35:13] | SkaFreak: | hooray, my mythtv is working now |
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| [17:35:55] | roger55: | DigerLAP, and what is on sda2 ? |
| [17:36:02] | DigerLAP: | swap |
| [17:36:15] | roger55: | and sda3? |
| [17:36:40] | DigerLAP: | thats where /myth should be and its ext3 |
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| [17:37:04] | DigerLAP: | knoppmyth said it installed files to the hdd but have yet to see them |
| [17:37:05] | DigerLAP: | anywhere |
| [17:37:37] | roger55: | /dev/sda3 /myth ext3 defaults 0 0 |
| [17:38:14] | roger55: | DigerLAP, I have no idea about knoppmyth, all I know is that the fstab you posted http://rafb.net/paste/results/HKtXZw34.html can't be right. |
| [17:38:40] | DigerLAP: | i cant beleive you guys use myth and no nothing of knoppmyth? |
| [17:39:00] | roger55: | DigerLAP, I use gentoo |
| [17:39:27] | roger55: | why would I know every distro on the planet? :) |
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| [17:40:19] | DigerLAP: | its not like that, its debian with myth rolled into and autoinstall |
| [17:40:27] | DigerLAP: | but with sata you have to do manuall |
| [17:40:45] | fryfrog: | if you have *two* firewire stb, does the channel for each one have to be unique? |
| [17:40:53] | fryfrog: | opcr[0].channel=63 |
| [17:40:55] | fryfrog: | i mean? |
| [17:41:02] | fryfrog: | the firewire guide suggest 0 for one, 1 for the other |
| [17:41:09] | fryfrog: | but then his "script" sets it to 63 |
| [17:41:32] | roger55: | DigerLAP, try changing the fstab like I suggested and see if it boots. if not you need to try harder :) |
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| [17:44:23] | ShockValue: | anyone experienced with realtime + gentoo? trying to get mythtv to run that way |
| [17:44:31] | ShockValue: | and gettin nothin out of #gentoo :) |
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| [17:46:26] | ShockValue: | anyway, in case someone does, i added the audiogroup to /etc/modules.d/realtime, and did a modules-update, but its not showing up in modules.conf |
| [17:48:29] | xanderp: | ok, i have 2 tuners, and when I try to connect to 'watch live tv' from remote frontend box, the first time i get lots of RingBuf Error: Invalid file descriptor in 'safe_read()' messages, then when i hit it again (like it fails over to the second tuner or something) it works. any ideas |
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| [17:49:44] | xanderp: | also, i can't seem to find where to define the ringbuffer anymore... they got rid of that didn't they? |
| [17:51:14] | Anduin: | xanderp: Yes they did |
| [17:51:44] | Anduin: | xanderp: run the backend with -v all,nodatabase and pastebin the chunk near the failed live TV attempt. |
| [17:52:16] | xanderp: | that's when they made everything 'recorded' and auto-expires yes? I will do the -v and see what that gives, thanks |
| [17:58:14] | xanderp: | the main error I see from the -v backend is it has MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: select timeout – ivtv driver has stopped responding |
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| [18:04:51] | Dagmar: | xanderp: What version of the driver, card, and kernel? |
| [18:05:38] | xanderp: | ok, if i cat /dev/video1 >test.mpg i get data. If i do that with /dev/video0 i get nothing. they are the same card, and I have them both defined under modules. (they are both loaded under dmesg as well.) I will get that info for you.. just a sec. |
| [18:06:08] | Dagmar: | xris: Could you maybe put a comment in the modules for nuvexport as to which version of transcode/mencoder/ffmpeg they're supposed to work with? (Unless I just totally bloody overlooked that) |
| [18:06:20] | Dagmar: | It would make submitting patches considerable easier. |
| [18:06:40] | xris: | Dagmar: I do my best to make it work with everything recent |
| [18:07:05] | Dagmar: | I beat the SVN into working with those three the other day, and two of them had a lot of ocmmand line changes |
| [18:07:37] | Dagmar: | Okay, so if you're pulling SVNs and stuff I'll assume that ('cept transcode, which doesn't seem to be doing much anymore) |
| [18:07:56] | xanderp: | it's a pair of pvr150's, i'm trying to figure out a fast way to find the ivtv version in fedora (i'm used to gentoo), but the kernel is 2.6.17–1.2187-FC5 |
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| [18:08:13] | Dagmar: | xanderp: modinfo ivtv prolly |
| [18:08:43] | xris: | Dagmar: which svn? |
| [18:08:45] | xanderp: | 0.7.1 ivtv |
| [18:08:53] | xanderp: | thx Dagmar |
| [18:09:03] | Dagmar: | xris: Both ffmpeg and the latest of mencoder |
| [18:09:06] | fryfrog: | crontab -e |
| [18:09:08] | fryfrog: | oops |
| [18:09:12] | xris: | Dagmar: I have only updated a couple of the ffmpeg modules to work with svn. I currently only use mp4 export, so use that as an example. |
| [18:09:17] | Dagmar: | not svn/cvs on mencoder tho. |
| [18:09:22] | xris: | I don't use mencoder (didn't even realize that module still worked) |
| [18:09:30] | Dagmar: | xris: Ah okay. I mainly do xvid |
| [18:09:40] | xanderp: | the really odd thing is that the second tuner works fine, and they are the exact same model/version card. |
| [18:09:44] | fryfrog: | what is the 2&> /dev/null to send all output to the trash? |
| [18:09:51] | fryfrog: | is it &>2> /dev/null? |
| [18:09:53] | Dagmar: | I'll resynch and put new patches together tomorrow nigth then |
| [18:09:55] | fryfrog: | i always forget :p |
| [18:10:03] | xris: | Dagmar: odd, thought I fixed the xvid stuff the other day (in ffmpeg) |
| [18:10:14] | Anduin: | 2>&1 |
| [18:10:40] | Dagmar: | Actually &> /dev/null works |
| [18:10:46] | xris: | fryfrog: 2>/dev/null |
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| [18:10:57] | fryfrog: | bah, 3 different answers :p |
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| [18:11:12] | Dagmar: | 2>/dev/null just send stderr to /dev/null |
| [18:11:25] | fryfrog: | i think it is stdin i want to redirect |
| [18:11:30] | fryfrog: | that way, i can still see errors |
| [18:11:32] | xanderp: | when i rmmod and modprobe the ivtv, both cards respond correctly in dmesg |
| [18:11:48] | Dagmar: | You get on ONE machine thta doesn't have bash and you'll be typing out 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/null for months, tho. :/ |
| [18:11:53] | Dagmar: | Damn people's archaic sh |
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| [18:12:35] | Dagmar: | xanderp: You've probably got slightly different 150's I'm betting |
| [18:13:00] | Dagmar: | xanderp: Look carefully at all the output in the syslog as the module loads for each card |
| [18:13:18] | Dagmar: | Betcha it's probably assuming they're both the same or misdetecting the other |
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| [18:13:24] | xanderp: | they are both reporting as model 26052 rev C185 cards... |
| [18:13:54] | xris: | Dagmar: if you want to upgrade the mencoder module and submit a patch, could you please look at the way that I manage cli param name changes for ffmpeg and do something similar? |
| [18:14:45] | xanderp: | the odd thing is they both worked find in my old backend box without any 'tinkering' to make them different. (that was gentoo, and this is fedora though) |
| [18:16:11] | Dagmar: | xris: I'll take a whack at it. I was seriously considering just creating a pair of structures to stick all the things "we know" about the input and output specifics and pull those back up with a bunch of if defineds and if exists statements on each end, simply to make it easier to atomically change the behaviour without havign to change hardwired lines like . "-r $varname -qa $var2" and such |
| [18:16:17] | xanderp: | lspci -vv reports them as being the same as well... right down to the device code and revision |
| [18:16:50] | Dagmar: | xanderp: If this is different hardware you're running them in now I'd check to make sure there's not a card not-so-sharing IRQs with the tuner that isn't working right |
| [18:17:12] | Dagmar: | xanderp: Or be lazy and switch their positions in the case and see if it breaks the other one |
| [18:17:28] | xris: | Dagmar: that's a lot of what I do with ffmpeg. |
| [18:17:30] | Dagmar: | Kinda depends on whether or not you have the sides off as to which is faster. :0 |
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| [18:17:46] | xanderp: | i'm going to swap the pci slots and see if my problem moves to the other card. (see if i have faulty hardware) and then i'll try moving to alternate pci slots altogether (to play a little IRQ russian roulette :) |
| [18:18:09] | xanderp: | Dagmar: you typed it faster than me :) |
| [18:18:18] | Dagmar: | xris: I was kinda cussing that it never seemed to want to work and then realized I didnt' have anyone but myself to blame "WTF am I grousing about... I've been coding in perl for years" |
| [18:19:25] | Dagmar: | Cloning your style shouldn't pose any serious problems. |
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| [18:19:35] | Dagmar: | I'm just glad it's not in OO |
| [18:19:38] | Dagmar: | I hate that |
| [18:20:39] | xris: | huh? it's partly oo |
| [18:20:43] | xris: | as much as perl can be oo |
| [18:20:43] | SkaFreak: | Ok, next question, heh: What would cause mythtv to pretend that qt is screwed up everytime I reboot the computer. If I re-emerge it using "emerge -1 =x11-libs/qt-3*" it works again, but I have to do that every time I reboot my machine |
| [18:21:09] | Dagmar: | xris: I don't see you doing the abymal blah->new() stuff that makes me nuts |
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| [18:21:27] | xris: | Dagmar: that's because that's deprecated syntax |
| [18:21:31] | Dagmar: | ...where people go to all that trouble to create one object, and access it once, and then dispose of it |
| [18:21:46] | xris: | look at the nuvexport file itself. |
| [18:22:04] | xris: | though I think I touch most things more than just once. heh. |
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| [18:25:42] | Dagmar: | SkaFreak: *maybe* not having the qt libs in a directory referenced by /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [18:26:41] | SkaFreak: | so keep the libs somewhere else, or just comment em out? |
| [18:26:51] | Dagmar: | No they kinda need to be available. |
| [18:27:35] | SkaFreak: | so how would I go about changing that issue? |
| [18:28:07] | aboutblank: | LVM can do linear mapping over 2 physical disks to create 1 logical, correct? And if one of the drives died, i wouldn't lose ALL my data? |
| [18:28:58] | Dagmar: | SkaFreak: `man ldconfig` `man ld.so`. You're supposed to know about these things if you're going to run Gentoo |
| [18:29:28] | Dagmar: | aboutblank: Depends. If you are doing spanning, then yeah, you might as well be losing all your data as if you'd just used dd to write zeroes over half the partition |
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| [18:29:53] | Dagmar: | aboutblank: ...or striping. You need to be doing mirroring to get any useful data-protection |
| [18:30:05] | aboutblank: | striping = spanning? |
| [18:30:12] | Dagmar: | No. |
| [18:30:20] | Dagmar: | Google for "RAID definitions" |
| [18:31:29] | aboutblank: | what raid number is spanning? |
| [18:31:47] | Dagmar: | It's not. It's usually referred to as JBOD |
| [18:32:34] | xris: | Dagmar: jbod isn't spanning |
| [18:32:35] | Dagmar: | There is also http://www.ritilan.com/archives/2005/11/03/17.59.51/ by way of visual explanation |
| [18:32:44] | aboutblank: | -_- damnit |
| [18:33:08] | aboutblank: | i want software JBOD with LVM2... when i lose one disk, i won't lose all data. |
| [18:33:17] | Dagmar: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_Array_ . . . n_.28JBOD.29 |
| [18:33:39] | aboutblank: | the word "spanning" doesn't make sense with JBOD though |
| [18:33:54] | xris: | Dagmar: ok, I'm wrong. had it explained to me wrong. |
| [18:34:04] | aboutblank: | okay i get it now. |
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| [18:34:22] | Dagmar: | Yeah, once you read a few descriptions dealing with raid isn't all that confusing |
| [18:34:42] | Dagmar: | getting bloody lvm2 tools to make sense is harder |
| [18:34:50] | Dagmar: | Their docs blow |
| [18:35:06] | aboutblank: | now what i need is a tutorial on how to do spanning/jbod on lvm2 |
| [18:35:14] | xris: | aboutblank: that's what lvm *does* |
| [18:35:17] | aboutblank: | aka linear mode |
| [18:35:27] | Dagmar: | "here's a few common uses, and here's the commands we're using, and we're not explaining anything." |
| [18:35:36] | xris: | fedora's gui lvm setup tools aren't bad |
| [18:35:37] | aboutblank: | xris: i think lvm2 does striping too |
| [18:35:52] | xris: | aboutblank: not by default (that I know of) |
| [18:36:06] | Dagmar: | I'm thinking about borrowing a friend's external 250 so I can redo my array as striped |
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| [18:36:45] | xris: | I backed up stuff to 3 different machines when I added my raid5 |
| [18:36:57] | Dagmar: | I wanna see if it speeds up fsck at least |
| [18:37:53] | Dagmar: | I'm thinking the time I'll waste abcking the thing up won't be able to be made up for if I do that tho |
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| [18:38:21] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [18:38:46] | Ediehow: | i have dishnetwork 322 box, where can i get lircd.conf for it so myth can control it through blaster? |
| [18:41:38] | aboutblank: | do i have to use a livecd to resize my primary boot partition? |
| [18:42:25] | aboutblank: | because i'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that i can't unmount my primary partition ;) |
| [18:42:29] | Dagmar: | Yes. |
| [18:43:18] | hatredx: | about, what fs though? |
| [18:43:28] | aboutblank: | resizing the ext3 |
| [18:43:34] | hatredx: | k |
| [18:43:47] | aboutblank: | then i want to make an LVM'd XFS spanned/linear/jbod |
| [18:44:05] | hatredx: | i have one with 1.5tb |
| [18:44:08] | hatredx: | fast and works well |
| [18:44:13] | hatredx: | xfs = good |
| [18:44:54] | aboutblank: | you don't happen to have a good tutorial on using LVM do ya? or will a gui like gparted do it? |
| [18:45:03] | hatredx: | its not that hard |
| [18:45:21] | hatredx: | i think I used the one off myth site as a guide |
| [18:45:33] | hatredx: | for commands and general guidence |
| [18:46:47] | hatredx: | you know how to change a type of a partition in fdisk – I though this was the hardest part |
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| [18:47:51] | aboutblank: | hatredx: why would i need to change the type of a partition? |
| [18:48:12] | Dibblah: | Growf. Don't buy the cheapest SATA2 PCI-e card from ebay. The default BIOS doesn't support port multipliers. |
| [18:48:19] | hatredx: | when you create the partition, you need to mark it as LVM and not Linux or such |
| [18:48:47] | Dibblah: | Usually, that wouldn't be a problem. But they've saved $.03 by using an EPROM. So it's not flashable. |
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| [18:49:19] | hatredx: | good sata cards are expensive |
| [18:49:21] | hatredx: | sucks |
| [18:49:46] | Tronic_: | hatredx: Do you mean RAID controllers? |
| [18:50:05] | Tronic_: | Or just some SiI3112/3114 based PCI cards? |
| [18:50:41] | hatredx: | sata w/raid, yes |
| [18:50:51] | hatredx: | raid is a tech on top of control system |
| [18:51:04] | Dibblah: | EPROM is so '90s, though :( |
| [18:51:34] | hatredx: | I get great performance from lvm |
| [18:51:38] | hatredx: | happy with such as it is |
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| [18:54:11] | DigerLAP: | where should lilo go MBR or ROOT PARTITION |
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| [18:56:02] | Tronic_: | hatredx: Do you mean real RAID or host/fake RAID? |
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| [18:56:37] | Tronic_: | Where the latter is what you get for less than 100 €, the former is what you start to get at over 300 €. |
| [18:58:00] | jduggan: | hi all,Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host based authentication failed... what does this error message relate to ? it cant connect to mysql db? because ive manually granted all on the db for the correct user and pass |
| [18:58:39] | Tronic_: | What could be causing livetv not to work? I can schedule a recording of a currently running program and then watch it "live" in Media Library, but the "Watch TV" option only gives me a black screen. |
| [18:59:08] | jduggan: | the mythfrontend can connect to the db |
| [18:59:15] | Tronic_: | jduggan: Did you grant also for the correct host? |
| [18:59:25] | jduggan: | Tronic_: yes |
| [18:59:28] | jduggan: | localhost |
| [18:59:36] | Tronic_: | Ok. No idea, then. |
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| [19:00:09] | hatredx: | Tronic, I dont understand the qestion related to what statment ... lvm is host/os based and real raid is hw based. |
| [19:00:29] | hatredx: | lvm for the cost and performance is more then enough for residental usage |
| [19:00:47] | hatredx: | hw raid dont pay off until high systems (cost to gain) |
| [19:01:28] | hatredx: | hw raid in most midlevel and lower pcs is usless and not worth it |
| [19:01:42] | hatredx: | inmho |
| [19:01:48] | Tronic_: | hatredx: Yes, but I was asking: what kind of RAID are you after? |
| [19:01:59] | Tronic_: | Not whether it makes sense, etc. |
| [19:02:39] | hatredx: | oh I am not |
| [19:02:41] | Tronic_: | What you get with < 100 € cards is definitely not hardware RAID, and I would not even call those cards RAID controllers (like the marketing people do). |
| [19:02:48] | hatredx: | I was commenting on someone speaking of doing xfs and lvm |
| [19:03:19] | Tronic_: | ... and this brings us back to the topic about their prices – about 30 € for two ports (the chip always seems to be SiI3112) or 70 € for four ports (SiI3114). |
| [19:03:31] | hatredx: | 4 for sure |
| [19:03:42] | Tronic_: | Which, in deed, is *very* expensive, if you compare to the price of the same chip on a motherboard. |
| [19:03:53] | hatredx: | more the better =) ; as long as the bus line is clean and some offload is on the chipset |
| [19:03:57] | Tronic_: | You can get a full motherboard with SiI3114 and a lot of other hardware on it, for 70 €. |
| [19:04:07] | jduggan: | how can i add an option to the mythfrontend menu's to play a DVD with my own software and args |
| [19:04:16] | jduggan: | someone give me a link to this? |
| [19:04:30] | aboutblank: | i need to format a partition before i create an LV in LVM, right? tuts usually say pvcreate, but i don't want to do that since i have other partitions on the disk |
| [19:04:35] | Tronic_: | Thus, paying the same for a PCI card with just the controller chip on it seems robbery. |
| [19:04:38] | hatredx: | nforce4 chipset and its raid is what I am stuck with on mb |
| [19:04:41] | hatredx: | works great |
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| [19:05:08] | jduggan: | i also wish to add all my divx movies for browsing, how would i go about doing this? anyone got a link to a howto etc, as you can tell im pretty new to mythtv |
| [19:05:27] | Tronic_: | This also means that often it is cheaper to just buy a new motherboard than get those PCI-based controllers. |
| [19:05:33] | RyeBrye: | jduggan: have you looked at the mythtv wiki? |
| [19:05:37] | Tronic_: | s/PCI-based/PCI card/ |
| [19:05:55] | hatredx: | there are some crazy sata cards out there |
| [19:06:06] | hatredx: | with buttload of ports and sataii raid etc .. |
| [19:06:20] | hatredx: | crazy ... thats corp shit ... 600 a card |
| [19:06:22] | hatredx: | lol |
| [19:06:36] | RyeBrye: | jduggan: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Xine talks about how to use XINE with Myth as the DVD player |
| [19:06:56] | hatredx: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816151004 |
| [19:06:57] | RyeBrye: | jduggan: If you want to use a different DVD player, this might be a good thing to get started with |
| [19:06:57] | aboutblank: | I'm using a promise tx4310 in raid5 and have been very happy with it |
| [19:06:58] | hatredx: | !!!!!!!!! |
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| [19:07:17] | hatredx: | 24 ports ... jebus |
| [19:07:19] | robbins876: | I'm getting no sound in myth... what should i check first? |
| [19:07:36] | RyeBrye: | robins876: make sure you haven't gone deaf ;) |
| [19:07:39] | hatredx: | robbin, that /dev/dsp or whatever you picked does exist |
| [19:07:55] | Ibeam: | hi folks |
| [19:07:55] | robbins876: | i'm getting sound everywhere else, just not in myth |
| [19:07:55] | hatredx: | so if ls /dev/dsp does return something, you are in better shape already =) |
| [19:07:57] | Ibeam: | a sincere thank you, to all who helped over the past few days, with trouble shooting some of the issues i had with the new Suse10.1/MythTV boxes |
| [19:08:04] | Ibeam: | much appreciated |
| [19:08:21] | DigerLAP: | wtf does this mean |
| [19:08:22] | DigerLAP: | Kernal Panic – not syncing: vfs: Unabale to mount root fs on unkown-block(8,1) |
| [19:08:29] | RyeBrye: | Ibeam – how hard was getting MythTV on Suse? Was it OpenSUSE or the commercial one? |
| [19:08:37] | Ibeam: | all working great now (although i still haven't testing DVD ripping yet :P) |
| [19:09:05] | Ibeam: | Suse 10.1 (commercial) |
| [19:09:49] | hatredx: | so I am thinking about finding out what happens when you shove two different pci-e cards with out doing sli |
| [19:09:51] | robbins876: | man, sometimes i don't understand myth |
| [19:10:04] | robbins876: | now the sound is workin |
| [19:10:05] | robbins876: | g |
| [19:10:16] | hatredx: | as you would expect, two different video cards with independent usage? |
| [19:10:40] | Ibeam: | RyeBrye: it was very easy to get it all installed (there are mythTV 0.20 packages in the reposotories) but getting the hardware setup was a little tricky |
| [19:10:58] | RyeBrye: | Yeah, the hardware seems to be the hard part usually |
| [19:11:09] | hatredx: | robbins, you use kde? |
| [19:11:54] | robbins876: | yep |
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| [19:12:31] | hatredx: | check the arts timeout value in sound system in kde control center |
| [19:12:49] | hatredx: | you can lower it a bit as that system waits that long to release the /dev/dsp |
| [19:13:14] | hatredx: | so if kde plays a sound, it sounds like you load myth faster then the time out |
| [19:13:19] | robbins876: | should i just turn off auto suspend? |
| [19:13:28] | hatredx: | no, it will never release it then |
| [19:13:32] | robbins876: | oh, i see |
| [19:13:41] | robbins876: | so what's the use of it? |
| [19:13:56] | hatredx: | thats another can of worms, but its the kde sound system |
| [19:14:12] | robbins876: | if i disable the sound system what will happen? |
| [19:14:14] | hatredx: | any sound from kde and most your apps is through the arts system. |
| [19:14:18] | hatredx: | you will get no sound =) |
| [19:14:46] | hatredx: | its a pain in the ass ... so if you lower it to like 2 or 3 it may give you more the streamline feel... |
| [19:14:49] | xris: | Tronic_: um, if you only have one tuner, how would you expect to record two streams at once? |
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| [19:15:12] | hatredx: | you cant =p |
| [19:15:36] | Tronic_: | xris: I don't. |
| [19:15:47] | robbins876: | are you in KDE, hatredx? |
| [19:15:48] | Tronic_: | xris: I am trying to watch livetv while NOT recording. |
| [19:15:53] | xris: | ahh |
| [19:15:53] | Tronic_: | Then I get black screen. |
| [19:15:53] | hatredx: | robbin, yes |
| [19:16:07] | robbins876: | what's your auto suspend set to? |
| [19:16:21] | Tronic_: | If I try while recording, I get an error message. |
| [19:16:26] | hatredx: | 30, but I have a sound card that supports mutli source mixing |
| [19:16:42] | ivor: | Tronic_: what does your backend log say? |
| [19:16:43] | robbins876: | mine is at 266, is that too high? |
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| [19:17:02] | hatredx: | ummm, are you taking buffer? |
| [19:17:13] | hatredx: | because if that is suspend time ... its huge |
| [19:17:20] | hatredx: | most have 30 (think default) |
| [19:17:30] | hatredx: | i have used 5 with little effect to perforamce |
| [19:17:47] | robbins876: | it says auto-suspend if idle after |
| [19:17:50] | robbins876: | 266 seconds |
| [19:17:52] | Tronic_: | I am thinking that this might be because the default channel for LiveTV is sending encrypted programming at the moment. |
| [19:18:02] | hatredx: | wow, lower that to 5 and apply |
| [19:18:14] | Tronic_: | If I try to schedule a recording on that channel, it doesn't work (I get black screen in Media Library, too). |
| [19:18:30] | hatredx: | see if that helps you out ... so you only wait 5 secs after a kde sound to get mythfrontend sound |
| [19:18:33] | Tronic_: | However, in livetv I should be able to switch channels but apparently that is not working. |
| [19:18:37] | hatredx: | if not, revert I guess. |
| [19:18:40] | robbins876: | oh, i see |
| [19:18:47] | robbins876: | it works now |
| [19:19:06] | robbins876: | so i should probably install my soundblaster card instead of using this onboard bullshit? |
| [19:19:14] | hatredx: | good stuff; hope I explained that so you get the complete idea. Give a man a fish ... =) |
| [19:19:20] | hatredx: | yes |
| [19:19:32] | hatredx: | very much so, sb line has good multi channel support |
| [19:19:51] | hatredx: | most the time you dont have to deal with crap like that ... |
| [19:19:56] | robbins876: | i really don't want to go to my parents house, but i guess i have to |
| [19:20:25] | hatredx: | got to get day started, bbl ... |
| [19:20:31] | robbins876: | peace |
| [19:20:58] | robbins876: | the new southpark is so fucking funny |
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| [19:25:07] | robbins876: | i don't play world of warcraft...i'm playing hello kitty island adventure |
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| [19:27:11] | Tronic_: | I removed the encrypted channel and now MythTV works. |
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| [19:27:28] | Tronic_: | This brings us to a couple of disturbing bugs in the program. |
| [19:27:58] | Tronic_: | #1 it does not tell the user that the channel is encrypted (nor that no data is available at the moment) |
| [19:28:14] | Tronic_: | #2 it does not allow switching channels if a non-working channel is encountered. |
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| [19:28:29] | Tronic_: | Especially #2 is quite serious and should be fixed. |
| [19:29:10] | Coutal: | say, is there any current home for mythtv debian packages? |
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| [19:29:42] | ivor: | Tronic_: so file a bug |
| [19:29:45] | Tronic_: | I am also seeing another bug: it doesn't let me choose the default channel in mythtv-setup. No matter what I choose (on the backend machine), it goes to 013 (the encrypted one) by default and when I go back to mythtv-setup, that channel is selected there. |
| [19:29:56] | ** J-e-f-f-A is back ** | |
| [19:30:12] | Tronic_: | After deleting 013 it now goes no 014, no matter which channel I choose. |
| [19:30:18] | Tronic_: | s/no/to/ |
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| [19:32:12] | Tronic_: | ivor: I'll let someone who already has Bugzilla (or whatever system you use) access to do it. |
| [19:32:35] | ** ivor bangs head hard on desk. ** | |
| [19:32:41] | tecta: | when I do /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start it says... Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [19:32:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow |
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| [19:33:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Oops, I'm here... dish lirc file? |
| [19:36:33] | Tronic_: | ivor: Well, the thing is that I might report bugs, I might submit patches and I might even assist on program design, but if doing so requires more than personal contact with the developer responsible, I don't bother to. This is pro-bono work, after all :P |
| [19:37:14] | ** ivor *shrugs* ** | |
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| [19:39:03] | tecta: | when I do mythfilldatabase it says table 'mythconverg.dd_v_program' doesn't exist... do i need to create it manually? |
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| [19:41:30] | ciphernemo: | Is there any guide out there for setting up an debian/ubuntu system for MythTV 0.20? I've already googled for it and can't find jack that will help. The documentation walks through 0.20 build, but it runs through it from a developer's perspective and skips over so many important things... like I need qt3, etc. |
| [19:42:44] | otwin: | ciphernemo: http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_0.20.php |
| [19:43:52] | Coutal: | say, i was wondering. what drawing backend does myth frontend use? does it write directly to framebuffer? |
| [19:44:34] | ivor: | Coutal: it has a selection of drwaing options |
| [19:44:38] | Coutal: | i'm planning to try running mythtv with dxr3 |
| [19:44:47] | ciphernemo: | otwin: I've seen that one already... if you read through it, the person is installing 0.18 and upgrading... it's a complete waste of time |
| [19:45:06] | Coutal: | if it can use sdl, it might just work |
| [19:45:30] | ciphernemo: | otinw: also, that's less complete than the documentation for MythTV |
| [19:46:28] | ciphernemo: | Is there any COMPLETE guide out there for setting up an debian/ubuntu system for MythTV 0.20? I've already googled for it and can't find jack that will help. The documentation walks through 0.20 build, but it runs through it from a developer's perspective and skips over important things... like qt3, etc |
| [19:46:54] | Coutal: | ivor: do you know if anyone ever tried that? |
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| [19:47:28] | Ediehow: | hi, anyone using stb with an irblaster? |
| [19:47:33] | aboutblank: | oh please help me- i booted to ubuntu livecd, and opened gparted.. i then resized my primary ext3 partition, but something went wrong. the error message was cryptic, but i restarted my computer and now it hangs on "mounting partition".. argh! help me please :( |
| [19:47:43] | ivor: | Coutal: no idea, have a search through the maillist. if someones used a dxr3 they'll certainly have mentioned it. |
| [19:47:56] | ciphernemo: | aboutblank: take that questions to #ubuntu |
| [19:48:01] | aboutblank: | d'oh |
| [19:48:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: yes, I'm using 3 dish receivers with a blaster. |
| [19:48:24] | otwin: | ciphernemo: i gave you a guide to install myth 0.20 (READ it) and read the myth doc and search the wiki |
| [19:48:30] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A: PLEASE Help[ me |
| [19:48:33] | Ediehow: | i think i talked to you before:) |
| [19:48:36] | tecta: | i do sudo mythbackend and it says failed to bind port 6543 |
| [19:48:39] | Ediehow: | i have usb-uirt set up |
| [19:48:43] | Ediehow: | and i have a dish 322 w/dishnetwork |
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| [19:48:46] | orogor: | hello |
| [19:48:49] | ciphernemo: | otwin: it's not complete and doesn't help me, so no need talking about it more |
| [19:48:51] | ciphernemo: | Is there any COMPLETE guide out there for setting up an debian/ubuntu system for MythTV 0.20? I've already googled for it and can't find jack that will help. The documentation walks through 0.20 build, but it runs through it from a developer's perspective and skips over important things... like qt3, etc |
| [19:48:56] | orogor: | any french persone preferably with a freebox here ? |
| [19:49:01] | Ediehow: | i patched lirc to work with usb-uirt and everything, how do i get the blaster to control mythtv? |
| [19:49:05] | Ediehow: | errr the stb |
| [19:49:18] | Ediehow: | did you ever use irrecord? |
| [19:49:33] | otwin: | ciphernemo: well then no myth for you... |
| [19:49:36] | tecta: | anyone know why it says it can't bind to port 6543 please! |
| [19:49:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: (irrecord) yeah, but you probably don't need to... Do you have the lirc file for the 322 remote? |
| [19:49:42] | ciphernemo: | mutes otwin |
| [19:49:52] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A: apparently not, i am not sure |
| [19:50:07] | Ediehow: | i had tried some, but when i used channel changer script, lirc said "remote not supported" |
| [19:50:11] | RyeBrye: | ciphernemo: the most complete guide I know of is for Fedora, not Ubuntu... |
| [19:50:16] | Ediehow: | with irrecord, you know how it generates dots when you hit buttons? |
| [19:50:24] | orogor: | ... also anyone knows a good audio mixer with a gui ? |
| [19:50:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: yes |
| [19:50:28] | ciphernemo: | RyeBrye: I can try that, thx... do you have a link? |
| [19:50:36] | Ediehow: | with my old pc remote, it generates tons of dots, with this stb remote, it generates only 2 |
| [19:50:49] | Ediehow: | the remote is 3.0 IR, that's what it says on the back |
| [19:50:52] | RyeBrye: | ciphernemo: the easiest way to find it is to google for "Fedora Mythology" – I'll go grab a link |
| [19:51:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Humm... Let me do some googlin'... |
| [19:51:18] | Coutal: | ivor: the last discussion about it is from 12/2002, which seems quite out of date. i think things have changed a little while since then :) |
| [19:51:26] | Ediehow: | i am guessing all dn 322 boxes have same remote? |
| [19:51:37] | RyeBrye: | ciphernemo: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [19:51:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Yes, although there is a 2nd remote that's UHF for the 2nd tuner... |
| [19:51:51] | ciphernemo: | RyeBrye: thx, I'll take a look :) |
| [19:52:08] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: (That currently is no way to control afaik) |
| [19:52:23] | RyeBrye: | ciphernemo: It's a great guide. I recently used it to get my Myth box up and running... |
| [19:52:30] | Coutal: | do you think a 500mhz K6–2 will be enough for decoding mpeg? |
| [19:52:55] | RyeBrye: | I decode MPEG2 by hand with paper and pencil |
| [19:52:57] | ciphernemo: | RyeBrye: wow, that's complete! It should cover gaps I'm clueless about in the mythtv docs, thank you! |
| [19:53:00] | RyeBrye: | It sucks. I get about 2 frames per day |
| [19:53:17] | ivor: | Coutal: actually I see discussions about it on and off quite frequently: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . sb=post_time |
| [19:53:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | Coutal: For SD, yes, if you're using an Nvidia card, and especially if you use xvmc. |
| [19:53:31] | RyeBrye: | ciphernemo: it relies heavily on yum to install packages, so that stuff wont work for you in ubuntu... but the configuration stuff might be helpful |
| [19:54:00] | Coutal: | J-e-f-f-A: SD indeed, not an nvidia card. and pardon the ignorance, what is xvmc? |
| [19:55:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | Coutal: XVideo Motion Compensation — it helps with mpeg decoding in hardware. The Nvidia cards have support for it. (only requires GeForce 4 series card or newer) |
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| [19:55:47] | tecta: | 2006-10–07 15:54:39.746 WARNING: something is currently using: /dev/dsp, retrying. |
| [19:55:55] | ivor: | Coutal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XvMC |
| [19:56:09] | Coutal: | the card on the machine is a trident cyberblade i7. it has some hardware motion compensation, but i doubt it's of the same kind and quality. |
| [19:56:10] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A: "that currently is no way.." what does that mean? |
| [19:56:12] | RyeBrye: | J-e-f-f-A: Does the XVMC work well on the NVidia cards? I have a GeForce 6200 and was wondering if I should look into enabling that... even though I don't really see a problem with Mpeg decoding as is – getting my CPU more time for other stuff can't be a bad thing |
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| [19:56:43] | GreyFoxx: | There are negatives to it |
| [19:56:59] | GreyFoxx: | Gray scale OSD, and some people report playback problems |
| [19:57:26] | RyeBrye: | Hm |
| [19:57:37] | tecta: | wait mythtv uses OSS? |
| [19:57:52] | RyeBrye: | tecta – yes – MythTV IS OSS |
| [19:57:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: There isn't a UHF 'blaster' for myth that I'm aware of atm. So unless the 2nd tuner can be changed to respond to IR signals, you won't be able to use it with Myth. |
| [19:58:03] | RyeBrye: | oss = open source software |
| [19:58:06] | Ediehow: | i don |
| [19:58:08] | Ediehow: | 't care about the second tuner |
| [19:58:18] | Ediehow: | i just want myth to be able to change channels |
| [19:58:24] | tecta: | RyeBrye, 2006-10–07 15:54:39.746 WARNING: something is currently using: /dev/dsp, retrying. |
| [19:58:25] | Ediehow: | that's all i care about right now, so i can start doing auto recordings again |
| [19:58:26] | GreyFoxx: | tecta: It's configurable for audio output. |
| [19:58:43] | GreyFoxx: | default is oss but you can use alsa as well |
| [19:58:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Ok, just looking into it now — looks like it's a different remote (but similar looking) to the one for the 311... |
| [19:58:51] | fish_: | oss = open sound system |
| [19:58:55] | RyeBrye: | Oh, gotcha |
| [19:59:04] | Ediehow: | the back says 3.0 IR |
| [19:59:05] | RyeBrye: | OSS == too many things |
| [19:59:07] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, in mythtv-setup i can change? |
| [19:59:16] | GreyFoxx: | tecta: No,in mythfrontends setup menus |
| [19:59:26] | fish_: | ands its deprecated but afaik mythtv uses it still for recording when you have a cheap tv tuner like i have |
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| [20:01:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Is your remote model "128579" — #3 on this page: http://sadoun.com/Sat/Order/Remotes/Dish-Network.htm ??? |
| [20:02:04] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, utilities setup part? |
| [20:02:07] | Ediehow: | the back says 3.0 ir echostar technologies corporation 119946 made in mexco patent pending |
| [20:02:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Ok, so it's model 119946 then... good info... one sec. |
| [20:02:44] | Ediehow: | it LOOKs like http://sadoun.com/Sat/Order/Remotes/3.1%20Picture.jpg |
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| [20:03:23] | GreyFoxx: | tecta: I don't rememberthe exact menu off hand |
| [20:03:38] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, do you use OSS or alsa? |
| [20:03:58] | GreyFoxx: | usually OSS, but honestly some of my machines are alsa |
| [20:04:36] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, well i'm not sure what's using sound for OSS atm (so why would myth complain about it?) |
| [20:04:55] | GreyFoxx: | Lemme guess.... Running KDE ? :) |
| [20:05:03] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, nope gnome |
| [20:05:20] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, then it;'s likely running the gnome sound daemon |
| [20:05:34] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, yeah i think |
| [20:05:36] | GreyFoxx: | which has grabbed control of the sound device |
| [20:05:57] | jduggan: | hi, anyone know if there's a similar plugin as mythvideo and mythmusic for dvd? |
| [20:05:59] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, so kill gnome sound daemon? |
| [20:06:03] | robbins876: | what's up, fox? |
| [20:06:34] | GreyFoxx: | tecta: That wouldfix it |
| [20:06:45] | GreyFoxx: | Though you might be able to just use ALSA |
| [20:06:56] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use any sound daemon stuff, so I don't know how well ALSA plays with it |
| [20:06:58] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, yeah i wish i could find how to change it |
| [20:07:17] | GreyFoxx: | tecta: By looking in the frontends settings menus |
| [20:07:21] | GreyFoxx: | IT's in there |
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| [20:09:48] | GreyFoxx: | Settings -> General -> 3rd page |
| [20:10:32] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, i see where it says Audio output device |
| [20:10:47] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, has options from /dev/dsp /dev/adsp /dev/dsp2 /dev/dsp3 |
| [20:10:57] | GreyFoxx: | If you want alsa type in "ALSA:default" |
| [20:11:04] | GreyFoxx: | and changethe mixer to "default" |
| [20:11:20] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, for audio output? |
| [20:11:45] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [20:11:58] | GreyFoxx: | you have to set both, audio output and mixer |
| [20:12:00] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, k hm is there anyway to minimize mythtv without exiting? |
| [20:12:19] | GreyFoxx: | not ifit's fullscreened :) |
| [20:12:28] | tecta: | k |
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| [20:13:59] | FunkyELF: | any gentoo users here? |
| [20:14:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Yeah, I'm still hee... trying to dig up 322 lirc remote stuff... |
| [20:14:45] | GreyFoxx: | Nope, we exiled them to #gentoo-mythtv :) |
| [20:16:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Check out the remote codes on this page (a littel more than 1/2 way down) http://www.htpcug.com/Multi.htm |
| [20:17:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | You can put one (or all three for that matter) into your /etc/lircd.conf file and try to use them to control your 322. If it's using 'standard' dish remote codes, then one of these should work for you. |
| [20:19:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: To see which remote code it's using, do step 8, part 1 only. Then you'd only need the single section. (I wonder if the 2nd tuner can be set to a diferent IR code this way?!?) |
| [20:22:38] | zoibee: | does anyone here got a good lircrc file for mythtv, mplayer, xine..? |
| [20:23:37] | orogor: | any french persone preferably with a freebox here ? |
| [20:23:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | zoibee: Jared had one on his guide in the tips&tricks session — don't know if it's as good as you want though... http://wilsonet.com |
| [20:23:48] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, says "Alsa:default" file not found |
| [20:24:25] | ** J-e-f-f-A is away: for a few minutes... ** | |
| [20:24:36] | Anduin: | tecta: ALSA |
| [20:24:44] | tecta: | Anduin, thx i'll try |
| [20:24:46] | GreyFoxx: | tecta: I said ALSA:default :) |
| [20:25:04] | GreyFoxx: | in Unix always assume captials are important :) |
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| [20:26:51] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, well i had ALSA:default and it still didn't work neither does ALSA |
| [20:28:22] | GreyFoxx: | did you also set the mixer to "default" ? |
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| [20:29:20] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A: back |
| [20:29:22] | Ediehow: | sorry |
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| [20:30:33] | FunkyELF: | any gentoo users in here upgrade from .19 to .20? |
| [20:30:52] | tecta: | GreyFoxx, GreyFoxx yes |
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| [20:31:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: pong |
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| [20:32:49] | ShockValue: | bah, this firewire thing is driving me bonkers |
| [20:33:14] | ShockValue: | it occasionally works, but mostly it times out over and over.. but i cant figure out the pattern |
| [20:33:33] | nordle: | Is anyone using mythtv in the UK? My channels just say "unknown" for 95% of them with regard to epg. |
| [20:34:51] | J-e-f-f-A: | nordle: I'm not in the UK, but does your 'lineup' match what you've picked for your listings provider? |
| [20:38:52] | ShockValue: | J-e-f-f-A: are you familiar with getting realtime stuff to run? myth is complaining that it cant do them |
| [20:40:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: No... You're talking about 'realtime' priority right? |
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| [20:40:20] | ShockValue: | yeah |
| [20:41:16] | nordle: | J-e-f-f-A: Thanks, by lineup, there is no lineup. I used xmltv, installed ALL the perl requirements, it went of and downloaded shed loads of channels for uk, and some of them have populated correctly. |
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| [20:41:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: I think I rember seeing/reading a blip that you'd have to "chmod +s mythbackend" to enable the the realtime priorities... But then again, I could be way off base.... ;-) |
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| [20:42:14] | Ediehow: | ok, back |
| [20:42:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: You're like a tennis match today, aren't you! |
| [20:42:41] | Ediehow: | you'd never even want to imagine the wireless setup i have going |
| [20:42:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | nordle: Check a few hours in the future, or even the next day to see if the listings are there. |
| [20:42:46] | Ediehow: | but i think it's stabilized for now |
| [20:43:12] | jaymode: | i compiled mythtv 0.19 and mythtvplugins from source(used the older version to be compatible with my backend) and I am getting a segmentation fault when mythfrontend is trying to load MythMusic, is there a way to remove this plugin? |
| [20:43:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: (Just don't move the tin-foil!!!) |
| [20:43:42] | ShockValue: | yeah, im in the same boat.. dont move the wire or livetv will quit workin :/ |
| [20:43:48] | fish_: | btw: i bought a p3 833mhz with 256mb ram for mythtv. before that i asked if this is enought for running both front- and backend. the ppl here said: well, maybe not, its too slow.. (because i do everything in software (capturing from a low budget tv card, mixing the sound from the soundcard input and no mpeg decoder) |
| [20:43:54] | fish_: | but it works very well |
| [20:44:08] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A: so any ideas on that ir blaster? |
| [20:44:21] | Ediehow: | i don't care about using my pc remote for now, i just want to get myth controlling satellite |
| [20:45:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Did you see any of my msgs before you dropped the time before last? |
| [20:46:02] | Ediehow: | i saw pong:) |
| [20:46:09] | fish_: | i'm at ~90–95% cpu but it works fine ;) |
| [20:47:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | fish_: Get yourself an Hauppauge card, and you'll have about 80% of your CPU back, and probably better quality too... ;-) |
| [20:47:56] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: I'll send it to you again, in a pm window. |
| [20:48:15] | fish_: | J-e-f-f-A: well, i have atm a analog tv card but i will buy a dvb-s card soon |
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| [20:49:24] | Eddiehow: | sheesh |
| [20:49:27] | Eddiehow: | so much for that machine |
| [20:49:32] | Eddiehow: | J-e-f-f-A, this is a stable connection |
| [20:49:43] | Eddiehow: | after i wrote "pong" what did you say? |
| [20:50:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow: I said I'd re-send it to you on a pm window so as to not flood the group... ;-) |
| [20:50:36] | Eddiehow: | ok |
| [20:50:36] | Eddiehow: | go ahead |
| [20:52:59] | ShockValue: | this is the error that im getting while trying to watch tv... this happens about 90% of the time, but occasionaly if i reboot the master backend, then it works once. |
| [20:53:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | fish_: My backend is a Dual PIII 866MHz w/512mb ram, PVR-250, PVR-350, and HD3000. I've got 760GB LVM for video. It does pretty good, even when flagging commercials. |
| [20:53:02] | ShockValue: | http://pastebin.ca/194360 |
| [20:53:59] | fish_: | J-e-f-f-A: well, i have only one cpu =) |
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| [20:54:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | fish_: (Correction, it's a PVR-250 and a PVR-500, so 3 analog tuners) Yeah, but it goes to show you that old hardware can still do the trick... |
| [20:54:49] | BULLE: | fish_: it al depends on how high res you are capturing video in, i would say |
| [20:55:01] | teapot: | hi : |
| [20:55:20] | ** BULLE pours a cup of tea ** | |
| [20:55:23] | fish_: | BULLE: well, i think it should be full pal |
| [20:55:38] | BULLE: | fish_: you sure of that ? |
| [20:55:41] | fish_: | i didn't change something related to that |
| [20:55:48] | BULLE: | fish_: then its not ful pal |
| [20:55:48] | teapot: | damn, forgot screen |
| [20:55:51] | fish_: | BULLE: how can i check that? |
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| [20:55:57] | BULLE: | fish_: backend settings i think |
| [20:56:08] | BULLE: | fish_: i would think you are doing 480x480 or so, as that was the default for me |
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| [20:56:16] | BULLE: | fish_: better keep it that waythough, with your hardware |
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| [20:56:56] | J-e-f-f-A: | fish_: Your dvb-s card won't add much for recording (it's already encoded, no need to do in software), and playback would be about the same too, unless it's HD content, then you're probably SOL unless you try an Nvidia card with XVMC. |
| [20:57:06] | teapot: | better |
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| [20:57:34] | fish_: | J-e-f-f-A: yes, i know, i mean that when i'v a dvb-s card i will have a little bit more cpu left ;) |
| [20:57:48] | Eddiehow: | J-e-f-f-A, i am in system info |
| [20:58:01] | Eddiehow: | and it says primary remote address 1, has a picture of a tv with a 1, and says IR |
| [20:58:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow: What's the remote number? |
| [20:58:25] | teapot: | Can anyone confirm that for a Hauppage 350 I need lirc_dev and lirc_i2c ? |
| [20:58:42] | antiPo5ix: | I ended up with this USB white "transeiver" which has a blaster that plugs into it. It came with a Hauppauge PVR. Is this a mceusb or mceusb2? how do I know? |
| [20:58:51] | fish_: | BULLE: do you know i which database table that is? |
| [20:59:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow: Awesome, you should be able to use the "DISH_1" remote from that guys page. Is there a 'secondary' remote address & IR setup? |
| [20:59:15] | fish_: | its not "capturecard" |
| [20:59:25] | Eddiehow: | it says secondary remote address 1 tv with a 2 in it and uhf pro |
| [21:00:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow: Humm. Does it give you an option to change it to IR, with address 6 or 9? |
| [21:00:30] | Eddiehow: | i dont know, is that necessary? |
| [21:00:56] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow: not for tuner 1, but if you could, then you would be able to use both tuners with Myth... ;-) |
| [21:01:20] | Eddiehow: | no matter what tv card i have? |
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| [21:02:01] | teapot: | Actually, can anyone running a hauppage350 list *all* of their modules for me perhaps ? |
| [21:02:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow: You'd need two 'tv cards' in your myth box, because it would be two different external tuners. |
| [21:02:10] | Eddiehow: | ok |
| [21:03:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow: So, setup your lircd.conf using the "DISH_1" codes on http://www.htpcug.com/Multi.htm (about 1/2 way down) |
| [21:03:58] | Eddiehow: | ok, i just copied that to lircd.conf |
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| [21:04:14] | Ediehow: | wrong button |
| [21:04:41] | teapot: | heh |
| [21:04:51] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow, Ediehow Then restart lirc. |
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| [21:05:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow, Ediehow Then try to send the 'info' button: |
| [21:05:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow, Ediehow: irsend --device=/dev/lircd1 SEND_ONCE DISH_1 info |
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| [21:06:08] | Ediehow: | hold on a second |
| [21:06:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow, Ediehow: (Oh, and get out of the menu with your 'real' remote first and tune to a channel) |
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| [21:07:20] | teapot: | When I run irw, lirc jus dies |
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| [21:07:30] | Ediehow: | hold sec |
| [21:07:35] | ** J-e-f-f-A plays taps... ** | |
| [21:07:36] | teapot: | accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| [21:07:45] | teapot: | could not open /dev/lirc |
| [21:07:54] | teapot: | default_init(): No such device |
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| [21:10:21] | Ediehow: | hey J-e-f-f-A |
| [21:10:23] | Ediehow: | you there? |
| [21:10:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Yep... |
| [21:10:41] | Ediehow: | what was that irsend supposed to do? |
| [21:10:47] | Ediehow: | is info supposed to say something? |
| [21:10:50] | Ediehow: | i'm still watching the same show |
| [21:11:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: If your 'blaster' is close enough to your reciever, it should have popped up the 'info' display, just like if you hit it on your remote. |
| [21:11:38] | Ediehow: | ok, i need to put my blaster near the stb? |
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| [21:12:11] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Yep. Mine are just 1" away from the front of the box, but YMMV... |
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| [21:12:41] | Ediehow: | nothing is showing up on screen |
| [21:12:51] | Ediehow: | i have lircd -n -d /dev/ttyUSB0 running |
| [21:13:45] | Ediehow: | and after i run that command it says "accepted new client on /dev/lircd ; uirt2usb_raw uirt version 0509 ok |
| [21:13:45] | jduggan: | hi, when i 'p' live tv, it pauses the video but the audio keeps going so when i 'p' to play its using the updateded audio |
| [21:13:48] | jduggan: | how to fix this please? |
| [21:13:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Ok, so try leaving the device out — like this: |
| [21:13:49] | Ediehow: | then it says removed client |
| [21:13:55] | robbins876: | xaralx is free for linux, but starts at $79 for windows... that's funny |
| [21:13:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | Eddiehow, Ediehow: irsend SEND_ONCE DISH_1 info |
| [21:14:11] | jduggan: | im using wintv hauppauage card with audio line out to my line-in of my snd card |
| [21:14:56] | Ediehow: | 3 lines, accepted new client on /dev/lircd; uirt2usb_raw: UIRT version 0509 ok; removed client |
| [21:15:04] | Ediehow: | after i issue your command |
| [21:15:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: And your dish box doesn't respond? |
| [21:15:46] | Ediehow: | nordle, and waht channel change script do you use? |
| [21:15:51] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A, no, and... |
| [21:17:09] | Ediehow: | what channel change script do you use? |
| [21:17:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: I use the channel change script on that same page, with the delays tweaked a little bit, and a 'channel up' command first. That way if I get on an 'invalid' channel somehow, it gets out of that mode. |
| [21:18:37] | nordle: | Ediehow: channel change script? |
| [21:19:03] | Ediehow: | hold on |
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| [21:22:11] | Ediehow: | why do you have an lircd1? |
| [21:22:16] | Ediehow: | mine is just /dev/lircd |
| [21:22:56] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A, i tried using that channel change script |
| [21:22:57] | Ediehow: | and it says |
| [21:23:10] | Ediehow: | uirt2usb_send remote not supported |
| [21:23:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: The remote name should be DISH_1 |
| [21:23:40] | Ediehow: | it is |
| [21:23:44] | Ediehow: | but this is the same error i was getting before |
| [21:24:09] | Ediehow: | everytime i execute one of those commands |
| [21:24:10] | Ediehow: | it says |
| [21:24:24] | Ediehow: | (i am running lircd -n -d /dev/ttyUSB0) |
| [21:24:49] | Ediehow: | it says accepted new client on /dev/lircd, uirt2usb_raw: UIRT version 0509 ok, uirt2usb_send: remote not supported |
| [21:24:59] | nasa: | Hi, does anyone know anything about this error? "qinputcontext: cannot create input context for non-toplevel text" — none of my text is being displayed (including menus) |
| [21:25:04] | Ediehow: | error processing command: SEND_ONCE DISH_1 cancel transmission failed |
| [21:25:11] | Ediehow: | ; transmission failed, i mean |
| [21:25:20] | Ediehow: | then it says removed client |
| [21:25:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: I wouldn't bother with the channel change script until you get it to send one command (ie the INFO button) -- |
| [21:26:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Take a digital camera or video camera and watch the IR led with it when you send a signal — do you see it flash white on the preview screen? |
| [21:26:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | (of your digital camera or camcorder) |
| [21:26:47] | Ediehow: | you mean led on usb-uirt? |
| [21:27:05] | Ediehow: | led on usb-uirt blinks when i do that irsend command |
| [21:27:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Well, yeah, the infrared led. |
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| [21:28:30] | Ediehow: | and when i executed that command the lircd said accepted new client on /dev/lircd; uirt2usb_raw: UIRT version 0509 ok; removed client |
| [21:29:22] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A, was i supposed to do all of step 8? |
| [21:29:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ok, it looks like it's got a high-powered 'blaster', so put it a couple of feet away from your dish receiver, and point it in the general direction of it. |
| [21:29:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: No, it's already set to remote address #1. |
| [21:30:13] | Ediehow: | nothing is happening to the tv show i am watching |
| [21:30:45] | Ediehow: | the blaster is a few feet away from the leds of the stb |
| [21:30:48] | Ediehow: | and they are facing each other |
| [21:30:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Ok, let's try one more thing... |
| [21:31:46] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Add the following line to your /etc/lircd.conf – just after the 'toggle _bit 0' line: frequency 40000 |
| [21:32:46] | Ediehow: | i think it did it! |
| [21:32:51] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A, is the man! |
| [21:32:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: And you can change min_repeat to 1 as well ... |
| [21:33:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: kewl.. ;-) |
| [21:33:11] | Ediehow: | min repeat is already 1 |
| [21:33:13] | Ediehow: | i copied straight from that page |
| [21:33:23] | Ediehow: | it seemed to have a delay, J-e-f-f-A, is that normal? |
| [21:33:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Yes, if that's a PVR box. Probably about 1–2 seconds, plus the 2–3 that myth adds... |
| [21:34:10] | Ediehow: | but i can't use channel change script |
| [21:34:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Also, if you're used to the 'instant' channel changing of Cable, sat takes a couple of secs. |
| [21:34:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: How so? (cant use script?) |
| [21:34:47] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A, tell me what else i can try with irsend |
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| [21:35:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: You can send any of the 'key codes' in the /etc/lircd.conf file — ie "info" "cancel" numbers, etc... |
| [21:35:43] | Ediehow: | i can't do any numbers, it seems |
| [21:35:46] | Ediehow: | it says remote not supported |
| [21:36:00] | Ediehow: | i tried irsend SEND_ONCE DISH_1 1 |
| [21:36:32] | tecta: | 2006-10–07 16:37:09.217 Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it. |
| [21:36:32] | tecta: | You likely won't get any video. |
| [21:36:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: And it said "remote not supported"? |
| [21:37:00] | Ediehow: | yes |
| [21:37:01] | scottder: | Whats a good card for OTA ATSC HD |
| [21:37:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: How about: irsend SEND_ONCE DISH_1 info |
| [21:37:36] | Ediehow: | yeah, that pops up the info on the scren |
| [21:37:37] | Ediehow: | screen |
| [21:38:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Ok, hit your up-arrow, and change 'info' to the number 1 |
| [21:38:31] | Ediehow: | on irsend sceen, says command failed, then transmission failed |
| [21:38:36] | Ediehow: | and if i look back at lircd screen |
| [21:38:53] | Ediehow: | the 2 new lines are uirt2usb_send: remote not supported |
| [21:39:04] | Ediehow: | error processing command: send_once dish_1 1 and then transmission failed |
| [21:39:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Strange. Very strange, but we're on the right path... |
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| [21:40:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Humm.. try the channel change script, but follow it with 0123456789 — to see if any of the numbers work. |
| [21:41:02] | Ediehow: | nope, and select and cancel don't work either |
| [21:41:46] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Strange. Just for giggles, try changing 'min repeat' to 2 — that's what I have mine set to. Let's see if that makes the difference. |
| [21:42:12] | Ediehow: | nope |
| [21:42:17] | Ediehow: | do you think it has anything to do with usb-uirt? |
| [21:43:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: It might... But I don't understand why 'info' would work fine, but '1' doesn't... it's the same remote, same modulation... strange... Maybe there's a typo in your lircd.conf file? Can you pastebin it? |
| [21:43:46] | Ediehow: | i doubt it, since this is the same problem i was having with another lirc.docnf |
| [21:43:47] | Ediehow: | lircd.conf |
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| [21:47:06] | scottder: | J-e-f-f-A: Which HD card do you use? |
| [21:47:13] | Ediehow: | hold on |
| [21:47:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: pastebin it anyways... it can't hurt. (Or just send it in a /msg window) |
| [21:47:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | scottder: HD3000 |
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| [21:49:39] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A, hold on, getting it up |
| [21:49:46] | Ediehow: | had to get it from computer w/o internet |
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| [21:51:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: A computer without internet? Never heard of such a thing!!! ;-) |
| [21:51:38] | Ediehow: | bizarre wireless set up |
| [21:52:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Would you like me to send you a long ethernet cable? |
| [21:53:02] | jduggan: | hi, when i 'p' live tv, it pauses the video but the audio keeps going so when i 'p' to play its using the updateded audio.. im using the audio out of my tvcard to line in of my snd card, anyone able to point me in the right direction? |
| [21:53:11] | ciphernemo: | Installing 0.20... should I use MySQ 5 or 4? Also, do I need the mysql-common, mysql-client (includes common), or mysql-server (includes client and common)? |
| [21:54:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | jduggan: Then you've got your 'line in' un-muted in your playback settings. You need to mute it in playback, and un-mute it (or select it) in the capture/recording settings. |
| [21:54:36] | Ediehow: | http://pastebin.ca/194429 |
| [21:54:44] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A, if it's about 1000 feet, you can:) |
| [21:55:05] | FunkyELF: | anyone upgrade from .19 to .20 on gentoo? |
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| [21:55:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: lircd.conf — yeah, I don't seen anything wrong there. |
| [21:57:28] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A, any ideas? |
| [21:57:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Just for giggles, try deleting all the keys except the numbers, select, cancel, pointer_up and pointer_down — maybe it can only handle so many entries? (but that shouldn't be the case!!!), or even just try moving them to the 'top' of the list of keys... |
| [21:58:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Yep ^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| [21:58:27] | ciphernemo: | Installing 0.20... should I use MySQ 5 or 4? Also, do I need the mysql-common, mysql-client (includes common), or mysql-server (includes client and common)? |
| [21:58:57] | Ediehow: | is my lircmd.conf messing with anything? |
| [22:00:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: I dunno, don't use one myself. |
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| [22:00:29] | Ediehow: | nope |
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| [22:01:13] | Ediehow: | didn't fix it |
| [22:01:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Which did you try – moving them to the top, or deleting all but those 'keys"? |
| [22:02:00] | Ediehow: | commenting out with # |
| [22:02:05] | Ediehow: | even menu doesn't work |
| [22:02:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: You put the # in column 1, right? (Just checking...) |
| [22:02:51] | Ediehow: | yeah |
| [22:03:06] | ciphernemo: | Installing 0.20... should I use MySQL 5 or 4? Also, do I need the mysql-common, mysql-client (includes common), or mysql-server (includes client and common)? |
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| [22:03:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | So 'info' works... try some of the other commands – power – guide – select – recall |
| [22:04:08] | Ediehow: | man, gmail's search function SUCKS |
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| [22:04:56] | Ediehow: | none of those work |
| [22:05:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: That's strange. Does 'info' still work? |
| [22:06:11] | Ediehow: | yup |
| [22:07:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: So, go down the list of codes to see what does and doesn't work... (You'll have to un-comment those lines again though, if you didn't already) |
| [22:07:15] | Ediehow: | i think i tried everything |
| [22:07:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: And only 'info' works? Do the others all get the error in lirc? |
| [22:08:17] | ciphernemo: | wow, 180-some users and no one able to answer a basic mythtv question within 15min? |
| [22:08:34] | Ediehow: | nope, nothing |
| [22:08:38] | Ediehow: | everything except info |
| [22:08:41] | caitlin: | ciphernemo, use server |
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| [22:08:50] | caitlin: | and yes, use 4 or 5 |
| [22:09:02] | caitlin: | grammar++ |
| [22:09:05] | ciphernemo: | caitlin: you mean #mythtv-server? |
| [22:09:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | ciphernemo: Well, I use FC4, run .19 and MYSQL 4.0 — so I can't answer your question. |
| [22:09:18] | caitlin: | mysql-server |
| [22:09:28] | ciphernemo: | J-e-f-f-A: thx for replaying anyways :) |
| [22:09:58] | caitlin: | if it's a basic question, google it :P </irc nazi> etc.... |
| [22:10:03] | ciphernemo: | caitlin: oh, use MySQL server |
| [22:10:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Strange – although the fact that it's lirc giving you an error leads me to believe it's either lirc or your usb blaster... |
| [22:10:23] | caitlin: | you can capitalise it how you like, but yes... this^ |
| [22:10:36] | ciphernemo: | caitlin: I'm already swimming in mythtv install articles, and the docs talk about MYSQL, but not enough specifics |
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| [22:11:06] | Ediehow: | well, i posted to usb-uirt list, lirc list, and myth list |
| [22:11:42] | caitlin: | i'm using mysql5 |
| [22:11:55] | caitlin: | on 0.20-something |
| [22:11:58] | caitlin: | on ubuntu |
| [22:12:01] | caitlin: | and it's sweet |
| [22:12:03] | caitlin: | :) |
| [22:12:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: If you restart the lircd daemon, does the number '1' work, but perhaps nothing else? |
| [22:12:04] | jams: | he left |
| [22:12:11] | caitlin: | oh yeh |
| [22:12:13] | caitlin: | oh well |
| [22:12:24] | jams: | yep his lose |
| [22:12:26] | caitlin: | sulky people dont get telly |
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| [22:12:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: (maybe it's only allowing one code to be sent out for some strange reason?) |
| [22:12:40] | ** caitlin flashes her chest at ciphernemo's back ** | |
| [22:13:13] | Ediehow: | nope |
| [22:13:15] | Ediehow: | says remote not supported |
| [22:13:19] | Ediehow: | but info works all day long |
| [22:13:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: Well, I hope you get a response... It doesn't make any sense to me... It's the same remote, so all the buttons should work!!!!! |
| [22:14:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: You didn't start lircd with the " --only-send-info-button " option, did you? ;-) |
| [22:14:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | hehe |
| [22:15:06] | caitlin: | installs need "god" cheats |
| [22:15:22] | caitlin: | type got and all you get infinite health, and all your commands just work |
| [22:15:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | (BTW: Am I the only one seeing huge lags tonight? IE: 10–20 seconds?) |
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| [22:15:50] | caitlin: | you cant blame a low frag rate on your irc ping |
| [22:15:58] | Ediehow: | :) |
| [22:16:08] | Ediehow: | J-e-f-f-A, thanks for the help you did give me, i hope i am on the right way |
| [22:16:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ediehow: np !!! ;-) I hope you get it working soon. |
| [22:17:59] | Ediehow: | thx |
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| [22:20:08] | cornell: | Can anybody tell me where the myth mysql database is kept (on knoppmyth, if it matters)? |
| [22:20:28] | Ediehow: | bbl |
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| [22:21:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | cornell: It's called 'mythconverg' — if you're looking for the physical location on disk, try "find / -name mythconverg' |
| [22:22:43] | cornell: | Well... I"m trying to copy of the data, in advance of replacing the hd. So I need to copy the database... should I copy the database itself, and copy it back, or do a mysqldump? |
| [22:24:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | cornell: I don't know for sure — if you're keeping everything the same, and just putting in a new hdd, then a copy should work fine. I'd keep a mysqldump handy just in case anyways... |
| [22:26:32] | cornell: | So... basically both ;-), thanks J-e-f-f-A. Could you answer another? |
| [22:27:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | cornell: Maybe, try me... |
| [22:27:42] | cornell: | I'm in the midst of copying the data off... It took much longer than I expected. In the meantime, how do I find files created since I started the copy? I tried find / -mtime +3, but it gave me... everything. |
| [22:28:24] | cornell: | I'm looking for TV recordings, and related files. |
| [22:29:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | cornell: I'm not sure... It probably gave you everything as it's probably preserving the timestamps. |
| [22:30:07] | cornell: | ??? preserving timestamps... yes the created files have their correct timestamps preserved, but why doesn't find find only the recent ones? |
| [22:32:31] | cornell: | Well... Thanks again... I gotta head out, anybody have any ideas, PM, please? Thanks |
| [22:32:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | cornell: Sorry, I don't know the right answer to that... Perhaps they're not copied yet? |
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| [23:07:59] | Mattwj2005: | hey guys |
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| [23:13:45] | Mattwj2005: | anyone here? |
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| [23:16:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | Mattwj2005: Nope. |
| [23:16:31] | Mattwj2005: | lol |
| [23:16:35] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay |
| [23:16:36] | Mattwj2005: | :P |
| [23:17:28] | Mattwj2005: | what is up J-e-f-f-A? |
| [23:17:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | Mattwj2005: My mommy told me to not talk to strangers! ;-) Not much... |
| [23:17:50] | Mattwj2005: | who Joe Mama? |
| [23:17:51] | Mattwj2005: | :P |
| [23:17:58] | Mattwj2005: | went on a date |
| [23:18:04] | Mattwj2005: | *I |
| [23:19:38] | Mattwj2005: | I took a girl to the science museum of minnesota |
| [23:20:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Mattwj2005: How'd it go? |
| [23:20:11] | Mattwj2005: | I think it went pretty well |
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| [23:21:21] | Mattwj2005: | we went to a bunch of different exhibits, omnitheater, and 3d show |
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| [23:21:38] | gri6507: | So, i've got a quick question |
| [23:21:50] | Mattwj2005: | it was our first date....even if there is not a second it was fun to get out :) |
| [23:22:01] | Mattwj2005: | what is the question gri6507? |
| [23:22:25] | gri6507: | I did a really bad thing and deleted all of my recordings from the harddrive. Now mythfrontend says that I have recordings, but they don't really exist. How can I synch up MySQL with reality? |
| [23:22:44] | Mattwj2005: | no idea |
| [23:22:49] | Mattwj2005: | anyone else? |
| [23:23:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | gri6507: I think you need to run mythrebuildb.pl (I think that's the name) |
| [23:23:33] | gri6507: | that's not going to screw up the rest of my settings, is it? |
| [23:24:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | gri6507: I don't think so, just the recordings. Do some searching on the archives to be sure... |
| [23:24:50] | gri6507: | OK. I think I found it (assuming that that's the script). It's called myth.rebuilddatabase.pl |
| [23:25:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | gri6507: I think that'll do what you want... I did the same thing accidentally about a year ago... |
| [23:26:05] | gri6507: | thanks for the help! |
| [23:26:52] | Mattwj2005: | these guys are awesome for help :) |
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| [23:30:59] | Mattwj2005: | anyone do anything fun lately? |
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| [23:34:28] | RyeBrye: | Anyone know how to adjust the convergence of an old school RCA RPTV? |
| [23:34:45] | RyeBrye: | (more than just what the on screen menu lets you do, that is) |
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| [23:35:16] | orogor: | hi here |
| [23:35:25] | orogor: | anyone knows somethign about the freebiox stuff ? |
| [23:35:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | RyeBrye: There are probably poteniometers on one of the boards inside to adjust the convergence... Your best bet is to try to find a service manual online... |
| [23:35:57] | Mattwj2005: | I just know how to use my RCA SDTV :) |
| [23:36:12] | RyeBrye: | J-e-f-f-A: Thanks. I found a place that sells the service manual for $30... but that seems a bit pricey for a TV made in 1992 |
| [23:36:47] | RyeBrye: | Maybe I'll just take the back off, and read the current resistences on all the POTs with my multimeter and then just have at it |
| [23:37:04] | RyeBrye: | (I'd also write down the current resistences... of course) |
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| [23:37:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | RyeBrye: It might just be labelled... You might get lucky...) |
| [23:37:55] | RyeBrye: | Yeah, that's true... I'll go take the back off and take a peak... |
| [23:37:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | RyeBrye: Keep in mind, there's three picture tubes in there — One Red, One Green, and one Blue. So there should be 3 sets of controls. |
| [23:38:06] | RyeBrye: | Oh, good point |
| [23:38:11] | RyeBrye: | I think the red is the one that is off |
| [23:38:35] | kavorka^: | do you guys have a preference out of divx or xvid? and does xvid take just as long as divx to encode from mpeg2? (via nuvexport) |
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