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| [00:00:11] | firefly2442: | anyone have any suggestions? http://pastebin.ca/188300 |
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| [00:00:33] | siXy: | yeah i had to get it to do some interesting stuff to get different lirc daemons to tie to different usb hardware devices, and then use a very modifeid irxevent to redirect the output to differnt places... balh blah blah |
| [00:00:34] | kormoc: | firefly2442, sure, install myth correctly |
| [00:00:37] | monkeypet: | firefly2442: run ldconfig. |
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| [00:00:47] | siXy: | havent put anything on the web about it yet, however |
| [00:01:24] | monkeypet: | siXy: why are you rewritingit? |
| [00:01:47] | siXy: | probably will do eventually, but given the complete lack of support i recieved from the mailing list its not exactly a the top of my priorityies right now |
| [00:02:03] | firefly2442: | monkeypet, hmm, that didn't seem to help |
| [00:02:08] | siXy: | becuase it wouldnt do what i wanted it to do in its current state |
| [00:02:08] | Anduin: | firefly2442: error is clear, if you used the default prefix you probably just lack your system search /usr/local/lib (so when ldconfig ran it did nothing) |
| [00:02:15] | kormoc: | well of course, given you're now a competing project. |
| [00:03:01] | siXy: | meh im not trying to start my own project, i just wanted to adapt lirc to work with my rather specific and unusual requirements... |
| [00:03:27] | kormoc: | heh, you said re-write, that's not adapting lirc :P |
| [00:03:36] | monkeypet: | What could be better than lirc... it can toast bread as well ;) |
| [00:03:54] | siXy: | well... rewiriting may have been the wrong word, but very little if any of the old code remains |
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| [00:05:26] | h0ser: | when my kernel loads (mythdora) ir_kbd_i2c loads as a module and i think it is causing my remote not to work, i like lircd, however when i do rmmod ir_common or modprobe -r, it crashes the computer, is there a way to stop it from loading in the first place? |
| [00:05:27] | siXy: | monkeypet lirc is great for serial-based devices. its not that optimised for usb devices imo |
| [00:05:47] | RandomDude16: | hey |
| [00:05:53] | kormoc: | h0ser, sure, depends on your distro of course |
| [00:05:58] | RandomDude16: | I need help with my remote. |
| [00:06:03] | RandomDude16: | I got it working but not in myth, |
| [00:06:06] | RandomDude16: | *myth. |
| [00:06:21] | h0ser: | kormoc: i mentioned i am running mythdora, i tried putting ir_common and ir_kbd_i2c in /etc/hotplug/blacklist but it didnt work either |
| [00:06:31] | RandomDude16: | I got it starting up at boot and everything but not working. |
| [00:06:40] | RandomDude16: | its the new media center remote |
| [00:06:42] | siXy: | random dude, you probably havent made the config file yet. |
| [00:07:00] | kormoc: | h0ser, hotplug != module loading at bootup |
| [00:07:15] | h0ser: | well, someone suggest that on efnet : ) |
| [00:07:20] | kormoc: | h0ser, I donno how to, cause I donno mythdora, and every distro is different |
| [00:07:20] | RandomDude16: | I need help making it. |
| [00:07:34] | h0ser: | kormoc: its just fedora core 4 |
| [00:07:39] | h0ser: | if you happen to know that :) |
| [00:07:43] | kormoc: | I don't know fedora :P |
| [00:07:50] | h0ser: | well then – n/m – heh |
| [00:08:12] | siXy: | randomdude – http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php has a pretty easy howto |
| [00:08:50] | ShockValue: | whats the key to slowdown playback? i switched from "ALSA:default" to "default", and that helped, but now everyting is playing doubletime :) |
| [00:08:52] | RandomDude16: | im using ubuntu dapper |
| [00:09:18] | siXy: | the bit you are probably missing, however, is the lircrc file, which lives in ~./mythtv |
| [00:10:45] | siXy: | the lirc parts are fairly generic. but if you google you should be able to find a lircrc for your remote. |
| [00:11:03] | firefly2442: | Do I need to specify command arguments for ldconfig? Sorry, this is the first time I've heard about it. |
| [00:11:29] | siXy: | have a look at it beofre you stil it in – often they have parts specific to particular peoples setups, for example people who use external amplifiers dont always bother with the volume control parts |
| [00:11:54] | monkeypet: | firefly2442: there is a configuration file in /etc/... |
| [00:11:55] | Anduin: | firefly2442: /etc/ld.so.conf (and some other files now) control where |
| [00:12:19] | kormoc: | http://kormoc.homelinux.org/lircrc <-- my lircrc for my mceusb2 remote |
| [00:12:49] | siXy: | oh yeah.. forgot to mention that there are several types of the mce remote – check which one you have :) |
| [00:18:22] | hadees: | anyone using mythlcdsever? I am having an issue with the LCD screen where it isn't clearing completely of the ServerScreen when mythtv starts up, although when mythtv over writes an area with its own menus its fine |
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| [00:22:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | hadees: I had it setup on one of my frontends a few months ago, but then fried a 40x4 lcd (I had the wrong pinout... yuck), and haven't fiddled with it since. I don't remember having that issue w/it though... |
| [00:23:13] | hadees: | J-e-f-f-A, any idea what to call that issue, i am having trouble searching for it |
| [00:23:35] | hadees: | i am guessing it is an lcdproc problem |
| [00:24:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | hadees: perhaps something like "mythlcd display corruption" ... |
| [00:25:02] | firefly2442: | Anduin, /etc/ld.so.conf doesn't exist, are there other places where it's stored? |
| [00:25:38] | Anduin: | firefly2442: /etc/ld.so.conf.d |
| [00:26:55] | firefly2442: | Anduin, I've got /etc/ld.so.cache .... that's about it |
| [00:27:57] | firefly2442: | can I just create this file? |
| [00:30:13] | Anduin: | firefly2442: It not being there is unlikely (possible, but unlikely), I assume ldconfig -p is pages long? |
| [00:31:16] | firefly2442: | Anduin, yep, it seems after looking online, Ubuntu does not have this file by default |
| [00:32:15] | Anduin: | firefly2442: Yeah, I see that in the MythTV Ubuntu page |
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| [00:37:25] | seeKay: | i just installed mytharchive on gentoo and i am not seeing the menu options for it... do i need to use a certain theme? |
| [00:38:13] | firefly2442: | Anduin, got it working by creating the file, thanks :) |
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| [00:42:00] | tibbetts: | Installing 0.18 on debian, and I'm getting ReadStringList timeout (quick) messages from the frontend, along with slow menu operation and live tv not working. The backend hasn't logged anything that seems relevant. is there popular wisdom about what causes this? Googling the mailing list doesn't seem to find anything relevant. |
| [00:42:09] | tibbetts: | s/debian/ubuntu/ sorry |
| [00:42:38] | GreyFoxx: | tibbetts: why not 0.20 ? 0.18 is kinda ancient :) |
| [00:43:06] | tibbetts: | cause it is whats in ubuntu. I figured I would start here and upgrade once I had it working. |
| [00:43:43] | tibbetts: | maybe that's a bad plan. |
| [00:44:14] | firefly2442: | tibbetts, there aren't any 0.20 packages in Dapper to upgrade to |
| [00:44:30] | firefly2442: | tibbetts, Edgy has some but not all of them are ready yet apparently |
| [00:45:15] | siXy: | arent there some unnoficial 0.20 pacakges for 6.06 flying about somewhere? |
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| [00:45:39] | siXy: | im sure ive seen some on my travels |
| [00:45:46] | firefly2442: | siXy, yeah, I tried some but I could never get the dependencies to work |
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| [00:48:44] | seeKay: | tibbetts: that's why i switched to gentoo for my mythtv machine... ubuntu was quick to put a system together, but crap like gnome and were just taking up space... also gentoo is like a week behind the mythtv developers in adding packages to their system |
| [00:49:03] | tibbetts: | gentoo causes hairy palms |
| [00:49:28] | seeKay: | gentoo does take a while, but you have to screw with ubuntu so much to get it to run mythtv that you might as well be compiling yourself |
| [00:49:29] | tibbetts: | :) |
| [00:49:50] | seeKay: | adding all these repositories from questionable sources and what not :P |
| [00:50:26] | seeKay: | so is anyone in here running 0.20 and have mytharchive installed/working? |
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| [01:32:45] | DigeratiH: | how is this for a pc to run knoppmyth on providing I get me a pvr150 >>> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDoc . . . g_R1002_USEN |
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| [01:41:19] | ShockValue: | ok, got regular tv working, but when i change to hidef chan, i get "Badalloc: insufficent resources for operation" spewed at the command line |
| [01:41:22] | ShockValue: | any ideas? |
| [01:42:33] | ShockValue: | actually, same error as this guy i found on google: http://www.pchdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9 . . . 63f920d12695 |
| [01:43:46] | DigeratiH: | I have no idea, I dont even have one setup yet |
| [01:43:50] | DigeratiH: | im sure someone knows |
| [01:44:36] | ShockValue: | gonna tinker with some X settings to see if that makes a diff... afk a minute |
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| [02:32:31] | monkeypet: | hm, should I buy the b5 dvd collection? |
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| [02:33:56] | ** kormoc peers at the b5 dvd iso collection he has ** | |
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| [02:34:01] | kormoc: | it's a good collection ;) |
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| [02:46:12] | GiantPickle: | Hello all... I've got mythtv running on a gentoo box (back and frontend) and it works awesome. However, when I connect to that backend from the frontend on my laptop... the color is all as weird... almost like a film negative... any thoughts? |
| [02:46:37] | GiantPickle: | laptop runs gentoo as well... and it is exactly the same version of mythtv on both |
| [02:47:10] | GiantPickle: | I've got the latest ati-drivers on the laptop |
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| [02:56:21] | RandomDude16: | I need help. |
| [02:56:27] | RandomDude16: | I need to get my media center remote to work in myth |
| [02:57:38] | seeKay: | RandomDude16: do you have lirc working? |
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| [02:58:56] | RandomDude16: | yes |
| [02:59:03] | RandomDude16: | irw works perfect |
| [02:59:14] | RandomDude16: | in terminal |
| [02:59:19] | RandomDude16: | when I test the remote |
| [03:00:38] | sigger_: | RandomDude16: if myth isn't responding to that, sometime the spellings in the hardware.conf file aren't matching the lircrc file |
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| [03:03:16] | RandomDude16: | im running kubuntu |
| [03:04:58] | RandomDude16: | and i compiled lirc |
| [03:05:04] | RandomDude16: | any ideas? |
| [03:06:53] | sigger_: | you do have a lircrc file somewhere, yes? |
| [03:07:44] | sigger_: | e.g. somewhere under /home/mythtv/ |
| [03:11:06] | kormoc: | I linked him to the one I use, but I don't think he did anything with it |
| [03:15:39] | siXy: | RandomDude16 – you have already been shown how to fix this once. |
| [03:18:33] | siXy: | i often wonder if people ask questions for entertainment rather than to actually get answers :/ |
| [03:19:20] | ShockValue: | blah.. SD tv is workin fine, but HD is throwing badAlloc errors and gives me a blue screen w/ audio |
| [03:20:25] | siXy: | how do you get your hdtv? |
| [03:20:42] | siXy: | via a box or directly froma tuner card? |
| [03:21:18] | ShockValue: | firewire -> backend -> frontend |
| [03:21:28] | ShockValue: | the frontend is the one throwing the BadAlloc errors |
| [03:22:05] | siXy: | can you manually record some hd and see fi that works? |
| [03:22:33] | ShockValue: | hmm, good idea |
| [03:28:23] | Ibeam: | is there anyway that i can manually edit a DVB channel video or audio pid? (as opposed to the chanPID) |
| [03:28:38] | kormoc: | in the DB? |
| [03:29:44] | Ibeam: | the channel table only has a place for channel PID, rather than seperate vid/aud PIDs.... |
| [03:30:05] | kormoc: | well, that would indicate that you can't then |
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| [04:14:00] | ShockValue: | how can I install mythweb on a seperate box that doesnt have any myth-stuff installed? i already have a webserver, and would like to just point the mythweb to my current backend |
| [04:16:20] | siXy: | just point apache to the mysql server on the myth box |
| [04:16:36] | siXy: | im sure ive answered that already :) |
| [04:16:57] | ShockValue: | right, but when i try to install mythweb, it keeps trying to pull "myth-stuff" as dependencies, etc |
| [04:17:18] | siXy: | yeah you will need to compile it from source most likely |
| [04:17:28] | ShockValue: | hrm |
| [04:17:35] | ShockValue: | k, ill look into how to accomplish that :) |
| [04:17:44] | ** ShockValue is kind of a linux newb ** | |
| [04:17:51] | siXy: | and even then i dont guarntee it will work, you may need to fiddle some |
| [04:18:05] | siXy: | whats wrong with running it on the backend? |
| [04:18:16] | ShockValue: | backend is behind the firewall. |
| [04:18:24] | ShockValue: | and i'd rather not open it up |
| [04:18:40] | siXy: | you only have to open one port.... |
| [04:19:05] | ShockValue: | yeah, but I already have an apache server sitting there bored on my DMZ. i'd rather use that if i can |
| [04:19:41] | siXy: | well, try if you want but i dont promise it will be easy |
| [04:19:59] | ShockValue: | just as long as you'll promise to still respect me in the morning |
| [04:20:11] | siXy: | hehehe |
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| [04:23:33] | metalac: | hey so i'm continiung with my poll to see what hardware you run for HD ;) |
| [04:23:56] | metalac: | so if you run 1080i WITHOUT XvMC can you tell me what cpu you got? |
| [04:24:25] | siXy: | WHY do you not want to use xvmc? |
| [04:24:46] | metalac: | no pretty OSD and no PIP |
| [04:24:55] | metalac: | and it's buggy |
| [04:26:24] | siXy: | not especially. but if you really dont want to how about gl2? |
| [04:26:40] | metalac: | gl2? |
| [04:27:03] | siXy: | yep. |
| [04:27:10] | metalac: | what's that? |
| [04:27:24] | siXy: | opengl based video acceleration |
| [04:27:42] | metalac: | that doesn't do anything for HD, only for drawing menus in X |
| [04:27:57] | siXy: | wrong. |
| [04:28:07] | metalac: | can i see some docs about it? |
| [04:28:25] | siXy: | probably. google is your friend. or man mplayer. |
| [04:28:36] | metalac: | OpenGL (Open Graphics Library) is an API for writing applications that produce both 2D and 3D graphics. MythUI will use OpenGL to render menus starting with version 0.20. |
| [04:28:47] | metalac: | says nothing about mpeg2 streams |
| [04:29:06] | siXy: | becuase its had opengl video accel for ages. |
| [04:29:43] | metalac: | but opengl doesn't deal AT ALL with mpeg2 streams, it renders graphics |
| [04:30:25] | siXy: | y'know if you dont want help thats fine.... |
| [04:30:34] | metalac: | ahahaaha is somebody geting mad |
| [04:30:45] | Ibeam: | metalac: openGL does deal with the rendering |
| [04:30:45] | metalac: | you really didn't provide help just put some terms in here |
| [04:30:54] | metalac: | Ibeam: of mpeg2 streams?? |
| [04:31:46] | Ibeam: | mythtv has been capable of handling the video rendering using GL for a long time |
| [04:31:56] | metalac: | where do you enable it? |
| [04:32:15] | siXy: | metalac rtfm |
| [04:32:34] | metalac: | siXy: that's because there is nothing about it in the manual since that DOES NOT exist |
| [04:32:41] | metalac: | OPENGL is used for MENUS not MPEG |
| [04:32:55] | Ibeam: | I suggest you do some reading about what GL is , if you have it setup or not, etc etc |
| [04:33:13] | siXy: | metalac support generally works better if newbies dont try to pretend they know what they are talking about |
| [04:33:23] | siXy: | gl getting hd to work. |
| [04:33:24] | metalac: | siXy: i'm no newbie here ok |
| [04:33:45] | siXy: | "OPENGL is used for MENUS not MPEG – yes you are" |
| [04:33:48] | metalac: | Ibeam: i have gl setup and I'm using it drow menus |
| [04:34:14] | Ibeam: | that's good |
| [04:35:06] | metalac: | they only thing opengl might do is do vsync |
| [04:35:17] | Ibeam: | :) |
| [04:35:46] | siXy: | for the last time – man mplayer |
| [04:35:53] | ** siXy calls it quits with this one ** | |
| [04:36:38] | metalac: | thank you ;) |
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| [04:37:37] | metalac: | -fixed-vo (BETA CODE!) |
| [04:37:37] | metalac: | Enforces a fixed video system for multiple files (one (un)initialisation for all files). Therefore only one window will be opened for all files. Currently the following drivers are fixed-vo compliant: x11, xv, xvidix, xmga, gl2, and svga. |
| [04:37:45] | metalac: | only thing where gl2 is mentioned in man mplayer |
| [04:41:50] | metalac: | gl2 is open GL output, should work on mplayer using vo=gl2 in .mplayer/config or just doing mplayer -vo gl2 filename if you just want to test it. I know I can play 720P ok with GL2 but it does use more CPU usage (still looks good atleast though) I believe I was able to do gl2 output on my athlon 64 3500+ on 1920x1080 barely, so like I said, you need a fast computer probably. |
| [04:41:57] | metalac: | so obviously gl2 is no better than xV |
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| [04:53:05] | harryk: | evening all |
| [04:53:25] | harryk: | can I bother the channel for a bit of assistance |
| [04:54:09] | siXy: | just ask your question :) |
| [04:54:11] | harryk: | setting up the hd5500 under myth, documentation is weak to the say the best |
| [04:54:56] | harryk: | i think the problem appears that myth is attempting to use /dev/video2 as the card, and thats fine, but when attempting to scan for channels, I get the following ouput |
| [04:56:11] | harryk: | 2006-10–01 23:47:50.406 pcHDTV::GetSignal_v4l1(fd 13, input 1, v4l2): error(Invalid argument) |
| [04:56:13] | metalac: | harryk: do you use zap2it at al? |
| [04:56:20] | harryk: | repeated through the end of the scan |
| [04:56:21] | harryk: | yes |
| [04:56:32] | harryk: | my pvr500 uses it for the local cable |
| [04:56:40] | harryk: | i setup a 2nd listing for ota |
| [04:57:37] | metalac: | try instead of scanning to use the source |
| [04:58:05] | metalac: | there are two buttons in setup one is to scan for channels and one is to use the source to get channel data |
| [04:58:08] | harryk: | ... correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I did that. |
| [04:58:16] | harryk: | prior to trying to scan for channels |
| [04:58:40] | metalac: | hmmmm |
| [04:58:51] | harryk: | how can I confirm |
| [04:58:55] | harryk: | rather |
| [04:58:59] | metalac: | try doing it again :) |
| [04:59:06] | harryk: | I think that I did ;) ... |
| [04:59:07] | harryk: | one sec |
| [04:59:29] | siXy: | harryk have you tried tuning a specific channel rather than scanning? |
| [04:59:52] | harryk: | not through myth |
| [05:00:01] | harryk: | when I run through the dtsignal program |
| [05:00:11] | harryk: | I am able to see the frequency for the channels |
| [05:01:05] | harryk: | ok, so I go through mythtv-setup, into input connections |
| [05:01:21] | harryk: | then under my hd card, I select fetch channels from listing source |
| [05:01:24] | harryk: | nothing happens |
| [05:01:28] | metalac: | ok that's good |
| [05:01:30] | metalac: | nothing should happen |
| [05:01:35] | harryk: | ok |
| [05:01:42] | metalac: | maybe a slight pause depending on your internet connection |
| [05:01:42] | harryk: | thats actually reassuring |
| [05:01:44] | metalac: | and then that's it |
| [05:01:46] | harryk: | ok |
| [05:01:57] | metalac: | now go to channel editor and see if there is any channels there |
| [05:03:08] | harryk: | ok, I go into the channel editor, select 'broadcast' (for the ota listing) and nothing is displayed |
| [05:03:27] | harryk: | so does that mean I'm not retrieving anything for that listing |
| [05:03:35] | harryk: | err.. source |
| [05:03:45] | metalac: | it seems like it |
| [05:04:18] | harryk: | ... should I have to run mythfill prior to being able to see that list? |
| [05:04:42] | siXy: | harryk- ive had mixed results with the myth scanner depending on tuner card. if you manually add a channel does that get you anywhere? |
| [05:04:46] | metalac: | no it should be there right away |
| [05:05:02] | metalac: | it seems that for HD* cards you need to scan |
| [05:05:03] | harryk: | siXy, I haven't tried to manually add one |
| [05:05:06] | metalac: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_ . . . ideo_Sources |
| [05:05:48] | metalac: | seems that the trick is to use a different frequency table |
| [05:06:09] | harryk: | and I confirmed that I'm already using the bcast table |
| [05:07:16] | metalac: | well it says you should use "Cable", "Cable HRC" or "Cable IRC" frequency table |
| [05:07:29] | harryk: | thats only assuming that you're using a cable feed |
| [05:07:41] | harryk: | previous sentence |
| [05:07:56] | harryk: | For OTA use the 8-VSB modulation and the broadcast frequency table, |
| [05:07:58] | metalac: | oh :) |
| [05:07:59] | metalac: | sorry |
| [05:08:02] | harryk: | no worries |
| [05:08:03] | metalac: | forgot your ota |
| [05:08:13] | harryk: | i'm not exactly a newb, i did read before comming here ;) |
| [05:08:21] | metalac: | are you on 0.20? |
| [05:08:52] | harryk: | [harryk@celeron ~]$ mythbackend --version |
| [05:08:52] | harryk: | Library API version: 0.20.20060828–3 |
| [05:09:08] | harryk: | i did the upgrade earlier this evening, and have since restarted the system |
| [05:09:19] | metalac: | it never hurts to try :) |
| [05:09:31] | harryk: | no I mean, I did restart earlier |
| [05:09:38] | metalac: | oh |
| [05:09:39] | harryk: | after the upgrade |
| [05:10:09] | metalac: | not sure what the problem might be |
| [05:10:13] | harryk: | it really seams that its not using the correct device |
| [05:10:22] | hjohnson: | i'm still torn.. |
| [05:10:24] | harryk: | 2006-10–01 23:50:36.992 pcHDTV::GetSignal_v4l1(fd 13, input 1, v4l2): error(Invalid argument) |
| [05:10:34] | hjohnson: | extend the basement computer to the living room, or build an HTPC |
| [05:10:38] | siXy: | harryk – can you try manually scanning a particular frequency that you know has working channels on it? |
| [05:11:46] | harryk: | siXy, when I do the dtvscan well... |
| [05:11:47] | harryk: | crap |
| [05:11:51] | harryk: | now I'm not getting jack |
| [05:12:23] | harryk: | ok |
| [05:12:28] | harryk: | well... earlier I was getting the following |
| [05:12:40] | harryk: | [root@celeron dvb-atsc-tools-1.0.3]# more scanned |
| [05:12:41] | harryk: | ion____:629000000:8VSB:0x31:0x34:0x03 |
| [05:12:41] | harryk: | qubo___:629000000:8VSB:0x41:0x44:0x04 |
| [05:12:41] | harryk: | ion W__:629000000:8VSB:0x51:0x54:0x05 |
| [05:12:41] | harryk: | Worship:629000000:8VSB:0x61:0x64:0x06 |
| [05:12:41] | harryk: | WMLW___:665000000:8VSB:0x41:0x44:0x04 |
| [05:12:45] | harryk: | CBS HD_:665000000:8VSB:0x31:0x34:0x03 |
| [05:12:49] | harryk: | WVTV-DT:755000000:8VSB:0x31:0x34:0x03 |
| [05:13:00] | harryk: | so I know I was getting signal |
| [05:13:06] | siXy: | oh just a quick check – there arent any errors in /var/log/messages pertianing to your card? |
| [05:14:19] | metalac: | hjohnson: keep the basement computer as backend and build a super quiet diskless HTPC in livingroom ;) |
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| [05:14:41] | vorpalbunny is now known as hjohnson | |
| [05:14:58] | siXy: | although its possible to build an inaudible htpc thats a combined backend/frontend – but that will cost more |
| [05:15:02] | hjohnson: | metalac: well, extending it up by balun and the like |
| [05:15:18] | metalac: | balun? |
| [05:15:25] | hjohnson: | metalac: leaving the machine in the basement, and just having a mouse/keyboard and the like |
| [05:15:26] | harryk: | siXy, i don't see any errors |
| [05:15:52] | siXy: | yes i was afraid of that :/ |
| [05:15:56] | metalac: | hjohnson: how are you connecting video? |
| [05:16:31] | harryk: | I see the following in messages |
| [05:16:33] | harryk: | Oct 1 18:38:23 celeron kernel: cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.5 loaded |
| [05:16:34] | harryk: | Oct 1 18:38:23 celeron kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:02.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 193 |
| [05:16:34] | harryk: | Oct 1 18:38:23 celeron kernel: CORE cx88[0]: subsystem: 7063:5500, board: pcHDTV HD5500 HDTV [card=47,autodetected] |
| [05:16:35] | harryk: | Oct 1 18:38:23 celeron kernel: TV tuner 64 at 0x1fe, Radio tuner -1 at 0x1fe |
| [05:16:41] | harryk: | appears that the card is recognized |
| [05:16:59] | metalac: | you using udev? |
| [05:17:47] | harryk: | metalac, good question |
| [05:18:00] | harryk: | i recall reading about it earlier, but I cannot find where I read it to go back and confirm |
| [05:18:12] | siXy: | is there anything in /dev/dvb? |
| [05:18:15] | harryk: | yes |
| [05:18:29] | hjohnson: | metalac: active VGA->Cat-5e baluns |
| [05:18:32] | harryk: | adapter0 |
| [05:18:37] | hjohnson: | metalac: ie push it over cat5 |
| [05:18:41] | hjohnson: | along with USB |
| [05:18:45] | harryk: | [root@celeron dvb-atsc-tools-1.0.3]# ls -l /dev/dvb/adapter0/ |
| [05:18:46] | harryk: | total 0 |
| [05:18:46] | harryk: | crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 4 Oct 1 18:48 demux0 |
| [05:18:46] | harryk: | crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 5 Oct 1 18:48 dvr0 |
| [05:18:46] | harryk: | crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 3 Oct 1 18:48 frontend0 |
| [05:18:48] | harryk: | crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 7 Oct 1 18:48 net0 |
| [05:19:02] | ShockValue: | dude... pastebin.ca that stuff |
| [05:19:15] | harryk: | ShockValue, sorry? |
| [05:19:21] | harryk: | not familiar with pastebin |
| [05:19:34] | ShockValue: | lets you cut and paste lots of stuff for others to see without floodin the channel |
| [05:19:36] | siXy: | rafb is a lot faster |
| [05:19:39] | metalac: | hjohnson: that's interesting |
| [05:19:42] | siXy: | use that instead |
| [05:20:02] | harryk: | rafb? |
| [05:20:07] | siXy: | harryk could you try /dtvscan -q -c 90:120 -o scanned-channels |
| [05:20:18] | siXy: | www.rafb.net from memory |
| [05:20:47] | harryk: | nothing |
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| [05:23:16] | harryk: | somethign just occurede |
| [05:23:28] | siXy: | that should fill scanned-channels with a list of availiable channels... |
| [05:23:36] | harryk: | should I be attempting to use this as a dvb card, instead of a tuner? |
| [05:24:11] | siXy: | a dvb card is a tuner, but yes |
| [05:24:28] | harryk: | sorry, instead of the v4l tuner |
| [05:25:03] | harryk: | neh... so far nothing better |
| [05:25:44] | siXy: | well if that command i posted didnt find any channels myth inst going to |
| [05:26:57] | harryk: | siXy, but that command did... |
| [05:27:00] | harryk: | just not now |
| [05:27:03] | harryk: | but it did earlier |
| [05:27:07] | harryk: | one sec |
| [05:27:13] | siXy: | try restarting the system then try again in that case |
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| [05:28:36] | harryk: | weird |
| [05:28:43] | harryk: | check this out |
| [05:28:59] | harryk: | ux0 |
| [05:28:59] | harryk: | harryk crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 5 Oct 1 18:48 dvr0 |
| [05:28:59] | harryk: | harryk crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 3 Oct 1 18:48 frontend0 |
| [05:28:59] | harryk: | harryk crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 7 Oct 1 18:48 net0 |
| [05:28:59] | harryk: | ShockValue dude... pastebin.ca that stuff |
| [05:29:00] | harryk: | harryk ShockValue, sorry? |
| [05:29:02] | harryk: | harryk not familiar with pastebin |
| [05:29:04] | harryk: | ShockValue lets you cut and paste lots of stuff for others to see without floodin the channel |
| [05:29:06] | harryk: | siXy rafb is a lot faster |
| [05:29:08] | harryk: | metalac hjohnson: that's interesting |
| [05:29:10] | harryk: | siXy use that instead |
| [05:29:12] | harryk: | harryk rafb? |
| [05:29:14] | harryk: | siXy harryk could you try / |
| [05:29:16] | harryk: | ux0 |
| [05:29:20] | harryk: | harryk crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 5 Oct 1 18:48 dvr0 |
| [05:29:22] | harryk: | harryk crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 3 Oct 1 18:48 frontend0 |
| [05:29:24] | harryk: | harryk crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 7 Oct 1 18:48 net0 |
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| [05:29:26] | harryk: | ShockValue dude... pastebin.ca that stuff |
| [05:29:28] | harryk: | harryk ShockValue, sorry? |
| [05:29:30] | harryk: | harryk not familiar with pastebin |
| [05:29:32] | harryk: | ShockValue lets you cut and paste lots of stuff for others to see without floodin the channel |
| [05:29:34] | harryk: | siXy rafb is a lot faster |
| [05:29:36] | harryk: | metalac hjohnson: that's interesting |
| [05:29:38] | harryk: | siXy use that instead |
| [05:29:40] | harryk: | harryk rafb? |
| [05:29:44] | harryk: | siXy harryk could you try / |
| [05:29:46] | harryk: | err... |
| [05:29:48] | metalac: | oh wow |
| [05:29:50] | harryk: | sorry, not trying to flood |
| [05:29:54] | harryk: | WCGV-2_:539000000:8VSB:0x41:0x44:0x04 |
| [05:31:14] | siXy: | yeah you want to watch that :) |
| [05:31:17] | harryk: | ok |
| [05:31:25] | harryk: | now I'm getting better results |
| [05:31:29] | harryk: | wonder if its my antennae |
| [05:31:47] | harryk: | i power cycled that, and wham, instant (nearly) results at the command line |
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| [05:32:18] | siXy: | digital tv does need a better quality of antennae than analgue, but i suspect dsomething had just gotten ill. restarting fixes a whole lot of of problems |
| [05:32:28] | harryk: | ok, so now I get back to doing the scan through myth, and still nothing but timeouts |
| [05:32:55] | harryk: | and this puts my thoughts back to myth incorrectly trying to use /dev/video2 |
| [05:33:04] | siXy: | ok, did the command i posted provide some channels in the file it created? |
| [05:33:07] | harryk: | yes |
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| [05:33:45] | siXy: | then its your mythtv setup. |
| [05:34:00] | siXy: | try using atsc in the tuner type dropdown |
| [05:34:19] | harryk: | k, one sec |
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| [05:36:42] | harryk: | also, just tested dtvsignal on channel 25 and strong signal, over 75% |
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| [05:38:27] | skizo1: | does anyone know how to decrease the delay between transmissions when using the irsend program? i'm using a change channel script with mythtv and my cable box and the tx seems pretty slow |
| [05:39:45] | siXy: | yeah in the lirc code theres a very crude anti-flooding mechanism that filters out lots of the inputs. you can decrease its agressiveness if you want to, by downloading the source, editing and recompiling |
| [05:39:59] | harryk: | siXy, ok, still nothing in myth |
| [05:40:16] | skizo1: | siXy: hrmm |
| [05:40:20] | harryk: | wait |
| [05:40:21] | harryk: | wiat |
| [05:40:29] | harryk: | there ... it got it |
| [05:40:31] | harryk: | one sec |
| [05:40:45] | siXy: | harryk – i havent done it for a little while and i havent got a mythbox with me now so i cant really be of much use. its one of those options – and your card should show up as dvb:0 or somthing like that |
| [05:41:15] | harryk: | i think it just locked onto some |
| [05:41:28] | harryk: | I did have to change it to the dvb0 device |
| [05:41:32] | harryk: | that seems to have done the trick |
| [05:41:42] | harryk: | documentation is really poor on this subject, atleast in my opinion |
| [05:42:29] | siXy: | thats becuase noone gets paid to do it. |
| [05:42:35] | harryk: | heh |
| [05:42:40] | harryk: | too true |
| [05:43:13] | harryk: | i;m just saying that clarification on how hd cards should be setup would be nice |
| [05:43:27] | harryk: | i'm willing to take up the cause and submit some doc updates |
| [05:44:23] | siXy: | go for it. it would defiantely be appreciated |
| [05:46:21] | ShockValue: | this sounds like a bad sign: Wrote partition table, but re-read table failed. Reboot to update table. |
| [05:47:24] | harryk: | thats sounds like a crap shoot |
| [05:48:25] | skizo1: | siXy: do you have any idea where that input filtering code is at in the source? I've got 0.8.1 downloaded |
| [05:50:27] | siXy: | not off the top of my head im afraid. i can look it up, but not right at the moment – sorry |
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| [05:51:35] | skizo1: | siXy: did you read a thread somewhere that described this, or did you figure it out on your own? |
| [05:53:15] | siXy: | figured it out. i had to dissaseble lirc and very extensively modifiy it for a particular project i was doing |
| [05:53:35] | skizo1: | i see |
| [05:54:29] | harryk: | siXy, heh... after all that and the pc isn't capable of displaying the content |
| [05:54:37] | siXy: | ? |
| [05:54:39] | harryk: | or atleast appears that way |
| [05:54:53] | harryk: | i just get a blue screen, instead of video |
| [05:54:54] | siXy: | what spec? |
| [05:55:00] | harryk: | p4 2.8ghz |
| [05:55:05] | harryk: | 256mb |
| [05:55:16] | siXy: | gfx card? |
| [05:55:16] | harryk: | but i'm (currently) attempting to use integrated intel video |
| [05:55:46] | siXy: | right. geet a geforce 6200 or above and at least double the ram and you will be fine |
| [05:55:56] | siXy: | the cpu is plenty fast enough |
| [05:56:10] | harryk: | ram won't be a problem, i've got the sticks sitting next to me... the video card... well thats the problem |
| [05:56:23] | harryk: | the board I am using (alot of freeby stuff) only has pci slots |
| [05:56:30] | harryk: | and with that only 3 |
| [05:56:36] | harryk: | 1 for pvr-500 |
| [05:56:41] | harryk: | 1 for pchdtv5500 |
| [05:56:49] | harryk: | 1 for gigabit card – I could remove this |
| [05:56:55] | harryk: | but no AGP slots |
| [05:56:58] | harryk: | or PCIe |
| [05:57:07] | Dagmar: | siXy: Not quite. The newer nVidia's don't have the stuff that lets XvMC accellerate things |
| [05:57:16] | Dagmar: | NV41, some of the NV42 and NV43 |
| [05:57:38] | harryk: | i need to find a replacement socket 478 mb |
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| [05:57:45] | harryk: | i've got an fx5200 agp card |
| [05:58:04] | harryk: | which I think will do HD through the xvmc |
| [06:00:22] | Dagmar: | It should be able to |
| [06:00:27] | harryk: | as a question |
| [06:00:32] | harryk: | just because I can't watch it |
| [06:00:40] | harryk: | doesn't necessarily mean I can't record it, correct? |
| [06:00:46] | harryk: | and watch it on another box? |
| [06:00:59] | Dagmar: | That's fairly true |
| [06:01:18] | Dagmar: | Recording it is not that big of a deal, particualrly since you'll get the stuff over firewire |
| [06:01:54] | harryk: | Dagmar, actually, i'm using an internal pchdtv 5500 |
| [06:02:20] | siXy: | recording hd required very little power. playing it will work on fx cards, but they sometimes have funny overscan issues |
| [06:02:34] | Dagmar: | Well, if it's doing hardware-based encoding you should be fine |
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| [06:04:53] | metalac: | what sort of cpu? |
| [06:05:00] | ShockValue: | gdamn it.. dead scsi drive |
| [06:05:19] | metalac: | auch |
| [06:05:22] | harryk: | cool.. well.. siXy thanks for the assit |
| [06:05:32] | harryk: | i'm gonna grab some sleep and let this thing bake in overnight |
| [06:06:08] | ShockValue: | there goes my media server system drive |
| [06:06:12] | ShockValue: | blah |
| [06:06:32] | siXy: | no probs :) |
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| [06:13:48] | ShockValue: | cool.. comcast is about 4x faster than my dsl was |
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| [06:18:15] | gentoo-user7184: | I am trying to find a software like nuvexport but does the same thing for .mpg |
| [06:18:36] | gentoo-user7184: | i am running mythtv .19 with a pvr-150 and it saves all of my files at .mpg |
| [06:19:00] | gentoo-user7184: | is there a way that u can save them as .nuv? and then use nuvexport or? |
| [06:20:12] | gentoo-user7184: | or can i just use trancode or ffmpeg and do it manually? |
| [06:21:05] | Dagmar: | It would be dumb to convert files to nuv |
| [06:21:20] | Dagmar: | ...and it helps when you read documentation. |
| [06:21:24] | gentoo-user7184: | yea but i am trying to conver them to .avi xvid |
| [06:21:40] | Dagmar: | nuvexport will convert *from* the mpg format you get from PVR cards to DivX and whatnot just fine |
| [06:22:05] | gentoo-user7184: | i have tried konvert, however the file sizes are still large and when u play it back the image is centered in the middle of screen |
| [06:22:21] | simcop2387: | anyone got a use for a hair brush turned stun gun? |
| [06:22:22] | gentoo-user7184: | well when i said nuvexport i can and error |
| [06:22:52] | Dagmar: | English has it's uses. |
| [06:22:54] | gentoo-user7184: | table mythconverg.recordedseek ndoes not exist |
| [06:23:08] | gentoo-user7184: | oo wait |
| [06:23:38] | gentoo-user7184: | thats bc i have a new verison of nuvexport made for the new mythtv .2 has a different mysql scheme |
| [06:24:57] | gentoo-user7184: | well that would be my guest anyways |
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| [06:26:15] | Dagmar: | You need the 0.4 release from SVN for MythTV 0.20 |
| [06:26:26] | gentoo-user7184: | yea but i am running .19 |
| [06:26:34] | Dagmar: | Then you need 0.3 |
| [06:27:44] | Dagmar: | http://forevermore.net/files/nuvexport/archiv . . . .svn.tar.bz2 I *think* will work |
| [06:27:46] | gentoo-user7184: | and now i get an error with .3 saying ffmpeg can't support aac |
| [06:27:55] | gentoo-user7184: | must be an error withing the ebuild for .3 |
| [06:28:01] | gentoo-user7184: | with in** |
| [06:28:09] | Dagmar: | Ummm you aren't likely to need aac |
| [06:28:28] | Dagmar: | Typically DivX is still going to be using mp3 for the audio |
| [06:28:34] | gentoo-user7184: | yea i just took it out of the useflags for ffmpeg |
| [06:29:02] | gentoo-user7184: | also i could never get divx to encode with nuvexport in the past |
| [06:29:23] | gentoo-user7184: | am missing an plugin for ffmped/transcode/mencoder? |
| [06:29:27] | gentoo-user7184: | am i** |
| [06:29:36] | Dagmar: | This is because nuvexport is very sensitive to the exact versions of ffmpeg/mencoder/transcode because they keep changing their interfaces. |
| [06:29:54] | gentoo-user7184: | oo alright |
| [06:30:20] | gentoo-user7184: | u see i was running mythtv .20 but i got fed up with it |
| [06:30:24] | gentoo-user7184: | and went back to .19 |
| [06:31:24] | gentoo-user7184: | .20 backend would use my cpu 100% all the time... whether i was/wasn't watching tv/transcoding/or commerial flagging |
| [06:31:48] | gentoo-user7184: | and i couldn't even shutdown it down half the time |
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| [06:34:48] | siXy: | ati gfx card? |
| [06:42:10] | Dagmar: | Use a stable distribution |
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| [06:48:36] | gentoo-user7184: | i keep getting this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/th8Yif11.html |
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| [06:50:22] | gentoo-user7184: | could it be caused by a difference in ffmpeg interface? |
| [06:51:45] | Dagmar: | Ask someone who actually uses Gentoo |
| [06:51:56] | gentoo-user7184: | alright |
| [06:52:16] | Dagmar: | I've no idea what 'acc' is supposed to be |
| [06:52:36] | Dagmar: | If it's actually supposed to be 'aac', you should feel shame |
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| [06:57:51] | JoeyJoeJo: | I've edited my recording to take the commercials out, but how do I tell myth to actually do the cutting? |
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| [06:58:37] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [06:58:45] | Ediehow: | when i use satellite with mythtv, what do i do for audio? |
| [06:58:46] | Ediehow: | line in? |
| [06:59:21] | Anduin: | JoeyJoeJo: If you mean permanently it requires a pass through the transcoder (the lossless one if you have MPEG2 and want it) |
| [06:59:35] | JoeyJoeJo: | ah, ok |
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| [06:59:41] | Ibeam: | Ediehow: yes |
| [07:00:07] | Anduin: | Ediehow: Which capture card? |
| [07:00:35] | Ibeam: | err. good point Anduin |
| [07:00:47] | Ibeam: | i'll just stay quiet now :P |
| [07:00:48] | gentoo-user7184: | that could be the problem maybe |
| [07:00:58] | Ediehow: | pvr 150mce |
| [07:01:35] | Anduin: | Ediehow: If by line-in you mean the one on that card, yes. |
| [07:02:32] | Ediehow: | i am not sure that card has a line in... |
| [07:02:57] | Ediehow: | oh wait |
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| [07:03:00] | Ediehow: | it has all 3 rca jacks |
| [07:03:02] | Ediehow: | so i just use all those/ |
| [07:03:36] | gentoo-user7184: | thanks for the head up Dagmar i think that may have been the problem i a going to remerge ffmpeg since it requires aac |
| [07:09:58] | gentoo-user7184: | thanks Dagmar that was the problem |
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| [08:15:33] | PaulWay: | Hi all! |
| [08:18:00] | Juski: | ! |
| [08:19:01] | PaulWay: | How'd it go, Juski? |
| [08:19:08] | PaulWay: | Did you get it working? |
| [08:19:30] | Juski: | it didn't. got myth working, got minimyth booting. mythweb wouldn't work so I had to postpone |
| [08:19:41] | PaulWay: | What's wrong with mythweb? |
| [08:19:49] | PaulWay: | I've got a bit of experience with it... |
| [08:20:06] | PaulWay: | Great news on the minimyth – this is a Via Epia machine, yeah? |
| [08:20:08] | Juski: | a typo in the version I checked out |
| [08:20:17] | PaulWay: | Heh. |
| [08:20:22] | Juski: | should just be able to check out a newer one |
| [08:20:58] | Juski: | getting mythweb to work with apache on ubuntu was a BITCH this time. they've mucked with the configuration stuff AGAIN |
| [08:21:06] | Juski: | apache, I mean |
| [08:21:45] | Juski: | there's merit in installing the mythtv packages on ubuntu, if only to uninstall them to leave a working config intact :-P |
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| [08:46:06] | Juski: | PaulWay: FYI minimyth is dead easy to get going once you've got a DHCP & TFTP server working |
| [08:46:56] | rufnut: | thats wha i have to setup dhcp for m wifi |
| [08:47:01] | rufnut: | what |
| [08:47:19] | Juski: | wifi schmifi |
| [08:47:21] | Juski: | ;) |
| [08:48:18] | rufnut: | mythtv-setup aks for an ip number and i am unsre what to do |
| [08:48:49] | Juski: | even if you use DHCP you should have static IP addresses |
| [08:49:16] | Juski: | for backends AND for frontends |
| [08:49:46] | rufnut: | this computer is assigned to 10.0.0.14 |
| [08:49:53] | rufnut: | do i use that one |
| [08:50:15] | Juski: | rufnut: like it says in the mythtv docs, if the box is a combined frontend/backend machine, leave the IP address as 127.0.0.1. the the box will have other frontends talking to it, make the IP address the machine's REAL IP |
| [08:50:55] | rufnut: | err um front end backend gets me confused |
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| [08:51:12] | rufnut: | i just emerged mythtv |
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| [08:51:33] | Juski: | front & backend gets you confused? damn you've got some work ahead of you |
| [08:51:50] | Juski: | backend does the scheduling & recording & stuff. |
| [08:51:52] | rufnut: | the backend is running all he time i thinks |
| [08:51:57] | rufnut: | ahh |
| [08:52:00] | Juski: | frontend is the UI & player |
| [08:52:08] | rufnut: | the front end is the pretty bit hey |
| [08:52:14] | Juski: | BE & FE can be on the same box, or not |
| [08:52:26] | rufnut: | oki |
| [08:52:38] | Juski: | rufnut: I think you need to take 30 & read some FM man |
| [08:52:39] | rufnut: | looks like my back end is running |
| [08:52:52] | rufnut: | yeah |
| [08:53:02] | rufnut: | took me a while getting my vid card going |
| [08:53:47] | rufnut: | seems to be too much documentation |
| [08:54:09] | rufnut: | all diff ways to skin the cat |
| [08:54:32] | Juski: | the mythtv wiki is very good, as is the gentoo mythtv wiki |
| [08:55:44] | rufnut: | ok i will have a look and try to follow whats going on |
| [08:56:41] | Juski: | just emerging mythtv shouldn't start the backend daemon |
| [08:56:55] | Juski: | nor would it initialise the database |
| [08:59:08] | rufnut: | oh i have followed that part |
| [08:59:39] | rufnut: | the knoppmyth live cd seem to connect by itself |
| [08:59:54] | rufnut: | just have to setup my indtall too |
| [08:59:59] | rufnut: | install |
| [09:06:02] | otwin: | have to reinstall my backend tonight... any reason not to go for ubuntu edgy and stay with dapper? since it should be released this month... |
| [09:07:46] | rufnut: | go on give it a whirl |
| [09:11:38] | otwin: | maybe gar-minimyth will build on that, duh... |
| [09:11:46] | Dagmar: | The worst that can happen is that everything will break. |
| [09:11:52] | Dagmar: | ...which will give you something to fix. |
| [09:12:08] | Dagmar: | ...and make Myth that much more fun to use when it's working again. |
| [09:12:11] | otwin: | believe me, it can't break more than what i have now |
| [09:12:16] | Dagmar: | HAHAH |
| [09:12:20] | otwin: | no /bin, no /etc |
| [09:12:28] | Dagmar: | You still have /. man |
| [09:13:00] | otwin: | if you can't even do ls -l |
| [09:13:02] | Dagmar: | Things can always break more unless you're staring at a pile of rust and paint flakes, and then there could be a sudden and unexplainable wind. |
| [09:13:07] | Dagmar: | You don't need ls. |
| [09:13:14] | Dagmar: | echo * works |
| [09:13:37] | otwin: | which is probably in /bin |
| [09:13:43] | otwin: | heh |
| [09:13:45] | Dibblah: | echo is internal. |
| [09:13:46] | Dagmar: | Echo is a bash builtin |
| [09:14:04] | Dagmar: | When you break too many things, knowing what you actually have becomes pretty important. :) |
| [09:14:12] | otwin: | :-) |
| [09:14:14] | Dibblah: | Echo isn't a builtin. echo is. ;) |
| [09:15:21] | otwin: | well i'll boot with a rescue cd, chroot and see if I can fix this – but I guess a reinstall will be faster |
| [09:15:38] | Dagmar: | That's probably the case. |
| [09:15:50] | Dagmar: | Make a list of what you installed this time in case you have to do it again--it'll make things go faster. |
| [09:15:54] | otwin: | but mythbackend kept on running for a couple of hours :-) |
| [09:16:01] | Dibblah: | A chroot ain't going to work any better than you have now... |
| [09:16:27] | Dibblah: | Ick. It's too early. I used ain't wrong. :( |
| [09:16:32] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but he can at least exit it, install more stuff, and try again without rebooting. |
| [09:16:39] | Dibblah: | Indeed. |
| [09:16:43] | otwin: | thats what I meant |
| [09:17:00] | Dagmar: | "buried alive" is only fatal if you don't have a shovel. ;) |
| [09:17:23] | Dibblah: | Ever tried using a shovel in a coffin? |
| [09:17:45] | Dibblah: | Not that I have, actually, but it sounds like a losing proposition. |
| [09:18:49] | Dagmar: | If you were in a coffin and you had a choice of shovel or no shovel, what would you put better odds on. |
| [09:19:51] | Dibblah: | It's OK – I've seen Kill Bill. |
| [09:20:08] | rufnut: | that was on the other nigh |
| [09:20:11] | rufnut: | night |
| [09:20:26] | rufnut: | you in australia ? |
| [09:20:44] | Juski: | otwin: I doubt gar-minimyth will build on edgy. it fails miserably on dapper |
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| [09:23:25] | otwin: | Juski: yes I know – but it's now reason enough to install fedora ;-) |
| [09:23:31] | otwin: | not |
| [09:24:41] | rufnut: | you not like fedora |
| [09:24:44] | otwin: | and pablo is so fast with his releases and don't really have to |
| [09:25:20] | otwin: | let's say I prefer debian(-based) distros |
| [09:25:48] | otwin: | fedora was great for my first mythtv install since there is an execellent howto |
| [09:27:27] | Dagmar: | Dibblah: W0rd. Heh |
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| [09:34:34] | Freman: | G'day folks |
| [09:34:40] | Freman: | can anyone help me get nuv-export running? |
| [09:35:16] | Dagmar: | You will want to use some distro's packaging for all that |
| [09:35:33] | Freman: | I tried... 0% DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'mythconverg.recordedseek' doesn't exist at /usr/share/nuvexport/mythtv/recordings.pm line 118 |
| [09:35:43] | Dagmar: | Sounds like you're using 0.3 |
| [09:36:05] | Dagmar: | You need to use 0.4 with MythTV 0.20, and 0.3 with 0.19 |
| [09:36:06] | Freman: | supposed to be 0.4p200060918 |
| [09:36:13] | Freman: | I'm using myth 0.19 |
| [09:36:28] | Dagmar: | You need to use the last 0.3 release with 0.19 |
| [09:37:40] | Freman: | I'll try that |
| [09:37:54] | Freman: | What's new in 0.20 (c? |
| [09:41:02] | Dagmar: | Unicorns and flowers. |
| [09:41:10] | Dibblah: | Ponies! |
| [09:41:11] | rufnut: | Thanks juski got my backend runnin g |
| [09:41:16] | Dagmar: | Mainly a lot of bugfixes |
| [09:41:31] | Freman: | Does it crash when you delete the last video still? (c: |
| [09:42:07] | ** Freman goes and checks out the release_notes ** | |
| [09:42:20] | rufnut: | i am being unfair expecting my machine to run myth while i am compiling kde hey ? |
| [09:42:27] | Freman: | yeh just a little |
| [09:43:02] | rufnut: | oh well not long now up to 27/30 |
| [09:43:29] | Freman: | ooh, MythUI sounds sexy |
| [09:43:49] | Freman: | Screenshots would rock |
| [09:45:07] | Freman: | mouse support, thank christ for that |
| [09:45:32] | Freman: | now if only you could set it up so that "space" on a checkbox checks the box rather then skips to the next page |
| [09:50:38] | Dagmar: | Yeah the control UI needs a bit of banging on |
| [09:50:48] | Dagmar: | It's mainly Qt buggery tho |
| [09:51:20] | quicksilver: | my machine runs myth fine whilst compiling anything/everything |
| [09:51:32] | quicksilver: | depends how fast it is |
| [09:51:41] | rufnut: | whats yr machine ? |
| [09:52:54] | rufnut: | at the moment i have no xxmc support so all is done cpu wise |
| [09:55:13] | quicksilver: | I have an athlon64 3000+ (single core) |
| [09:55:18] | quicksilver: | everything is CPU, no hardware assist |
| [09:55:32] | quicksilver: | it can quite happily record 1 channel, play another, and compile at the same time |
| [09:55:36] | rufnut: | i am on a p4 1.6 |
| [09:55:58] | rufnut: | maybe you have niceness setup right |
| [09:56:13] | rufnut: | i demand all when i compile |
| [09:56:30] | ** quicksilver shrugs ** | |
| [09:56:36] | quicksilver: | I have niceness on the default settings |
| [09:56:48] | quicksilver: | the kernel threads which service the cards get niced, the kernel does that automatically |
| [09:57:28] | rufnut: | yeah but if i have it setup to compile it will killeverything else |
| [09:57:37] | rufnut: | and so it should |
| [09:57:54] | rufnut: | takes long enough |
| [09:58:02] | ** [mbm] loves hardware assist – xvmc and spdif passthrough ** | |
| [09:58:10] | rufnut: | yes me too |
| [09:58:59] | rufnut: | dts on that spdif too |
| [09:59:09] | Freman: | hmmm nope |
| [09:59:14] | Freman: | still can't make nuvexport work |
| [09:59:25] | Freman: | 10% DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'mythconverg.recordedseek' doesn't exist at /usr/share/nuvexport/mythtv/recordings.pm line 125. |
| [09:59:47] | Freman: | I have installed nuvexport-0.3_pre20060729 |
| [09:59:56] | Freman: | I simply don't have "recordedseek" table |
| [10:00:11] | rufnut: | quicksilver do you use dvb ? |
| [10:01:02] | quicksilver: | rufnut: sometimes, yes |
| [10:01:28] | ** [mbm] records atsc and qam .. not technically dvb but probably the american equiv ** | |
| [10:01:31] | rufnut: | o n high definition |
| [10:01:42] | quicksilver: | no, not HD |
| [10:01:56] | rufnut: | ahhhh that would load yr cpu up |
| [10:02:00] | quicksilver: | indeed |
| [10:02:12] | rufnut: | you dont use xvmc or xxmc |
| [10:02:16] | quicksilver: | I'm just watching UK broadcast TV |
| [10:02:25] | rufnut: | what vid card do you have ? |
| [10:02:25] | Dibblah: | [mbm]: Did you get anywhere with your streams that were breaking Myth? |
| [10:02:54] | quicksilver: | rufnut: ATI radeon 9200 or something in that series |
| [10:02:59] | quicksilver: | it might be an 9250 I forget |
| [10:03:13] | Dibblah: | Recordedseek is new with 0.20 – All of the seektables used to be in recordedmarkup. |
| [10:03:23] | rufnut: | hmm you should get some dri action happening |
| [10:03:24] | [mbm]: | Dibblah: haven't had time, and I'm getting pissed off at comcast because each time I look the streams are different .. last week they screwed up and encrypted some channels which were supposed to be unencrypted and unencrypted some encrypted channels like the movie channel |
| [10:03:43] | quicksilver: | rufnut: I am using the TV-out drivers which aren't in the main driver tree |
| [10:03:49] | quicksilver: | rufnut: anyhow, I don't need hardware assist :P |
| [10:04:00] | quicksilver: | it's less than 20% CPU load to play fullscreen mpeg2 or mpeg4 |
| [10:04:12] | rufnut: | tv-out |
| [10:04:21] | quicksilver: | it runs OK even with the CPU scaled down to 1Ghz |
| [10:04:23] | Dibblah: | Freman: That last comment was for you :) |
| [10:04:35] | rufnut: | thats analog i guess |
| [10:04:38] | ** [mbm] ended up watching "the greated game ever played" on some movie channel instead of debugging it ** | |
| [10:05:02] | Dibblah: | [mbm]: That's what happens when a company believes that nothing apart from their hardware will be connected to their network. |
| [10:05:09] | quicksilver: | rufnut: the tv-out is s-video, so, yes, it's analog |
| [10:05:18] | quicksilver: | rufnut: I only have a cheap, old, 23" analog TV |
| [10:05:29] | rufnut: | the input is analog too ? |
| [10:05:36] | rufnut: | same here |
| [10:05:40] | quicksilver: | typically the input is digital |
| [10:05:42] | rufnut: | 68 cm |
| [10:05:45] | quicksilver: | but I watch analog channels too |
| [10:05:55] | Dibblah: | I only have 83" :( |
| [10:06:03] | rufnut: | lol |
| [10:06:05] | quicksilver: | when it's been recorded to mpeg2/4, it doesn't really matter whether the original was analog or digital |
| [10:06:13] | [mbm]: | Dibblah: yeah I know.. when they installed the cable initially they ran the tv through the automatic channel scan and the installer was suprised to see that my tv had picked up any of their digital channels — then he tried to sell me a cablecard |
| [10:06:18] | Dibblah: | quicksilver: Yes, it does. |
| [10:06:24] | quicksilver: | Dibblah: ? |
| [10:06:48] | Dibblah: | You'll get far more artifacts on a mpeg2 recording being re-recorded to mpeg2. |
| [10:07:03] | rufnut: | when i record hi def mpeg2 and its huge |
| [10:07:09] | quicksilver: | Dibblah: true but that's not what we were talking about |
| [10:07:11] | rufnut: | god i love it |
| [10:07:16] | quicksilver: | Dibblah: we were talking about CPU usage, I think :) |
| [10:07:23] | Dibblah: | If either of them is mpeg4, however, it's a different set of artifacts, which oddly is a little better. |
| [10:07:30] | quicksilver: | Dibblah: I actually don't transcode the digital, that gets spooled in native format |
| [10:07:43] | quicksilver: | so the DVB-T stays in native mpeg2, while the analog is compressed mpeg4 |
| [10:07:49] | [mbm]: | disks are cheap, I just dump raw streams without transcoding ;) |
| [10:08:01] | rufnut: | why not |
| [10:08:02] | Dibblah: | [mbm]: The cablecard you can't actually plug into anything, you mean? |
| [10:08:25] | rufnut: | i would too |
| [10:08:31] | Freman: | I only transocde the stuff I intend to keep for a while |
| [10:08:37] | [mbm]: | Dibblah: well, my tv is 'digital cable ready' with the ability to tune unscrambled channels and will accept a cablecard .. but yeah, I thought it was pointless |
| [10:09:34] | Freman: | disks are cheap, but 23" lcd wide screen monitors arn't – that's what I'm saving for (rather then spending all my mony on disks) |
| [10:10:18] | [mbm]: | hmm good point, I wish I actually could run native res on my tv |
| [10:10:56] | Dibblah: | I wish the XV scaling wasn't so... Cheap. |
| [10:11:17] | [mbm]: | I'm using xvmc and it looks pretty damned good |
| [10:11:30] | Dibblah: | xvmc is slightly different. |
| [10:11:32] | Dibblah: | I think. |
| [10:11:45] | [mbm]: | well, the mc is motion compensation |
| [10:11:54] | Dibblah: | I know. |
| [10:11:55] | Freman: | oh no, you got me wrong, the two 23" wide screen monitors are for my PC... the $4k projector which I buy later is for the tv (c: |
| [10:12:14] | [mbm]: | Freman: well, I use my tv as a monitor for the mythtv box |
| [10:12:20] | Freman: | yes, so do I |
| [10:12:21] | Freman: | for now |
| [10:12:24] | [mbm]: | 32" lcd |
| [10:12:39] | Freman: | 68cm crt )c: |
| [10:14:22] | [mbm]: | Dibblah: I'm finding that even hd channels have minor mpeg compression artifacts |
| [10:14:47] | Dibblah: | HD tends to be worse, artifact wise. |
| [10:15:16] | Dibblah: | Since the companies don't yet know how much bandwidth they can squeeze before the customer starts to complain. |
| [10:15:31] | Dibblah: | Except in Europe, of course. |
| [10:15:53] | Dibblah: | Since we didn't go for the cheap'n'nasty mpeg2 HD standards ;) |
| [10:16:04] | [mbm]: | well, what annoys me is I thought things would magically get better after moving away from ntsc, and they did, but I was expecting the frames to be uncompressed tiff quality which they aren't |
| [10:16:14] | [mbm]: | right |
| [10:17:05] | [mbm]: | most of the channels worth watching still aren't broadcasting in digital |
| [10:17:10] | Dibblah: | Would have thought they would have learned after the NTSC / PAL fiasco... |
| [10:18:07] | [mbm]: | ntsc looks like crap on a hd set .. you really notice how much the lower the color resolution is from the luminance |
| [10:18:30] | Freman: | mpeg2 looks fine in AU |
| [10:18:51] | Freman: | but then, there's nothing worth watching on our measly 5 channels |
| [10:19:13] | [mbm]: | few hundred channels here, still nothing worth watching |
| [10:19:46] | [mbm]: | and if there was anything worth watching, you can bet they'll repeat it over and over until you're sick of it |
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| [10:20:12] | Freman: | well, think. Big brother is on one of ours... that leaves us with 4 watchable channels, one chooses to run sports for a week, 3 watchable channels, one is abc, the other is sbs, the left over one is usualy channel 7, it wouldn't know what good programming was if it got smacked over the head |
| [10:21:05] | Freman: | channel 10 (big brother) runs things late almost constantly, and very very frequently at seeminly random intervals will swap between current season and previous season episodes |
| [10:21:28] | Freman: | wouldn't be the first time I've watched a House ep and thought I chould check my hard disk for temporal errors |
| [10:21:29] | [mbm]: | I'm lucky if I get to watch two new episodes in any given week |
| [10:21:43] | Freman: | two new eps in a week? omg! |
| [10:21:52] | Freman: | we have to wait a week between episodes, and usualy 2 |
| [10:22:03] | [mbm]: | well, I mean across multiple programs |
| [10:22:18] | Freman: | there's normally only one thing on at a time worth watching |
| [10:22:34] | Freman: | thank god for mythtv tho – it means I don't have to stay up till 12:30 to watch it |
| [10:22:47] | [mbm]: | I've got a record list of about 30 programs and most of the time it ends up being the same episodes over and over |
| [10:23:11] | Freman: | sounds lke our simpsons (c: |
| [10:23:42] | [mbm]: | I consider it pretty pathetic to give it 30 programs to record and find that a week later it's only recorded two episodes |
| [10:24:37] | [mbm]: | which sadly means I either tell it to record the repeats, or I surf live tv when I run out of things to watch |
| [10:25:52] | [mbm]: | at this rate it would probably be cheaper for me to go on amazon and buy seasons on dvd than it would be for me to pay for cable |
| [10:27:12] | ** [mbm] wonders if television was better before the invention of a recorded program ** | |
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| [10:28:59] | [mbm]: | only daily content these das is the talk shows (shameless plugs for movies – yawn) and news (terror breaks out, violent crime .. the more negative the higher the ratings) |
| [10:33:59] | ** Freman shakes head ** | |
| [10:34:18] | Freman: | nuvexport encoded my wide screen eps in 4:3 |
| [10:34:41] | [mbm]: | cropped or squashed? |
| [10:34:55] | Freman: | squashed |
| [10:35:30] | [mbm]: | hmm wonder if it's an aspect bit or if it got the resolution wrong in the file |
| [10:36:13] | Freman: | any hints on fixing it? |
| [10:37:42] | [mbm]: | unfortunately no, I haven't had to deal with encoding much |
| [10:43:42] | Freman: | First time I used ffmpeg, this try I'll go with transcode |
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| [10:44:12] | Freman: | You need tcmplex to export a dvd. |
| [10:44:16] | Freman: | cept I can't |
| [10:51:44] | Dagmar: | Actually, you just erred with nuvexport |
| [10:51:58] | Dagmar: | One of the things it tells the encoder is what aspect ratio to use |
| [10:52:16] | Dagmar: | Basically, the problem with nuvexport is that xris isn't god. |
| [10:52:35] | Dagmar: | ffmpeg, transcode, and even mencoder keep changing their interfaces, so basically... |
| [10:53:00] | Dagmar: | The first time you try to use a new version, run it with --debug. That'll make it do _nothing_ but instead emit the commands it was _going_ to execute. |
| [10:53:22] | Dagmar: | Then you cut and paste those one at a time (after you've checked out that they're sane and not doing something like saying 4:3 when they should say 16:9)... |
| [10:53:41] | Dagmar: | ...and then you go and diddle nuvexport so that it does the right thing. |
| [10:54:02] | Dagmar: | OR you can just pester xris to tell you exactly what versions of the stuff he's using and install those same exact versions on your machine. |
| [10:54:48] | Dagmar: | I spent the last two nights looking at it, and short of adding some very finicky checks and tests to nuvexport there just isn't any good solution. |
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| [11:00:57] | LLcoolM: | hi, i got a problem with mythtv. i have an analogue tv capture card with bt878 chipset (and mythtv doesnt find the card when trying to scan for broadcasting services |
| [11:01:41] | Dagmar: | That's because it's not supposed to scan for the card. |
| [11:01:46] | Dagmar: | You're supposed to _tell_ it about the card. |
| [11:01:49] | Freman: | /usr/bin/nice -n19 ffmpeg -f rawvideo -s 704x576 -r 25 -i /tmp/fifodir_23875/vidout -f yuv4mpegpipe – 2> /dev/null | /usr/bin/nice -n19 yuvdenoise 2> /dev/null | /usr/bin/nice -n19 ffmpeg -threads 2 -y -f s16le -ar 48000 -ac 2 -i /tmp/fifodir_23875/audout -f yuv4mpegpipe -s 704x576 -aspect 1.33333333333333 -r 25 -i – -aspect 1.3333 -r 25 -deinterlace -croptop 12 -cropright 14 -cropbottom 12 -cropleft 14 -s 720x576 - |
| [11:01:50] | Freman: | b 6000 -vcodec mpeg2video -qmin 5 -ab 384 -ar 48000 -acodec mp2 -f dvd '/home/freman/jericodvd/Jericho.mpg' 2>&1 |
| [11:01:52] | Dagmar: | Did you run mythtv-setup? |
| [11:02:00] | Dagmar: | Freman: Yep you have a lot of arguments to examine |
| [11:02:03] | Freman: | now I have to work out the aspect ratio of wide screen... |
| [11:02:20] | Dagmar: | Freman: Thankfully that's more or less a job for a pocket calculator. |
| [11:02:22] | LLcoolM: | Dagmar: i told it about the card |
| [11:02:32] | Dagmar: | LLcoolM: You're in the US? |
| [11:02:35] | LLcoolM: | i explicitly configure tv-capture card |
| [11:02:44] | LLcoolM: | Dagmar: nope |
| [11:02:48] | LLcoolM: | germany |
| [11:02:59] | Dagmar: | LLcoolM: Well, mainly it expects to get the channel listings from the listing service |
| [11:03:06] | Freman: | I found another howto that uses projectx... sounds easier |
| [11:03:24] | Dagmar: | Freeman: What's 16 divided by 9. |
| [11:03:42] | Dagmar: | Freman: Take that number and replace the 1.3333333~ with it. |
| [11:04:09] | Freman: | 704x576 <- and all of them? |
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| [11:05:15] | Dagmar: | No that's the dimensions of the recording, which is *not* actually the same thing as the aspect ratio of the vidoe |
| [11:05:21] | bofh_omega: | hi @ all does anyone know how to solve the following character coding error |
| [11:05:24] | bofh_omega: | DB Error (Copy program data on record): |
| [11:05:26] | bofh_omega: | Driver error was [2/1267]: |
| [11:05:28] | bofh_omega: | Query was: |
| [11:05:30] | bofh_omega: | REPLACE INTO recordedprogram SELECT * from program WHERE chanid = '1041' AND starttime = '2006-10–02T12:00:00' AND title = 'AVENZIO – Schöner leben!'; |
| [11:05:33] | Dagmar: | I record stuff at 720x480 all the time, just for the extra detail, but it's supposed to be viewed at 4:3 |
| [11:05:58] | bofh_omega: | this is what mythtv gives me when I try to do scheduled recording |
| [11:06:01] | Dagmar: | The aspect ratio is a separate bit of data explicitly mentioned in the video file that tells the player what aspect ratio to display in |
| [11:06:28] | jcsmith: | g'morning everyone, i just installed myth .20 yesterday and i'm having some trouble getting the program guide to work, it appears that mythfill database is running properly however there is no data in the program guide |
| [11:06:32] | LLcoolM: | Dagmar: how can i get the channel listings anyway? |
| [11:06:44] | LLcoolM: | it refuses to scan because it says it doesnt find the videocard |
| [11:06:59] | Dagmar: | LLcoolM: Then you need to ignore Myth for a moment and work on why the card isn't showing up |
| [11:07:13] | bofh_omega: | jcsmith: you have to "connect" the programms to each other. Have a look at mythtv-setup and the last point in the list. |
| [11:07:18] | Dagmar: | Use tvtime or something like that to verify your card actually works first. |
| [11:07:39] | Freman: | Dagmar, *shakes head* could just ask the user whether they want it in widescreen or not (c: |
| [11:07:53] | Dagmar: | Freman: Actually, it's supposed to detect such things. |
| [11:08:07] | Dagmar: | Fremen: You *might* want to look at the force_aspect option in /etc/nuvexportrc |
| [11:09:11] | Dagmar: | jcsmith: Bofh_omega is dead on. You definitely need to define a tuner card, then define the channel data source (i.e., tell it about your zap2it account or whatever) and then assign the data source to the tuner in mythtv-setup |
| [11:09:13] | Freman: | tah, I didn't even know that file existed (c: |
| [11:09:57] | jcsmith: | bofh_omega, Dagmar, i'm looking into it right now, i was nearly positive i did that tho |
| [11:10:41] | LLcoolM: | well, tvtime recognizes the card on /dev/video0 |
| [11:11:25] | Juski: | well, set mythttv-setup to look for a v4l card on /dev/video0 |
| [11:11:45] | bofh_omega: | Dagmar: what's the meaning of "to be dead on"? Sry my english isn't that good |
| [11:12:02] | Dagmar: | bofh_omega: The idiom means "to be exactly right" |
| [11:12:21] | Dagmar: | LLcoolM: Yeah, but does it *work*? |
| [11:12:39] | bofh_omega: | thx |
| [11:12:44] | Dagmar: | np |
| [11:13:04] | [mbm]: | suppose the next thing you're going to tell is is that we need to set the programs we expect recorded? |
| [11:13:55] | Dagmar: | Unless you'd like to code up something that does that |
| [11:14:04] | Dagmar: | I hear Netflix is offering money for that kind of thing tho |
| [11:14:13] | Dagmar: | http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/02/technology/ . . . ;oref=slogin |
| [11:16:01] | [mbm]: | tivo did that suggestions crap.. it sucked |
| [11:16:48] | Juski: | what's a tivo? |
| [11:16:54] | Juski: | :-P |
| [11:17:20] | [mbm]: | based on the fact you seem to like violent japanese anime, we've decided to record an animated preschool program ... :P |
| [11:17:41] | Dagmar: | Oh you didn't wait it out |
| [11:17:48] | Dagmar: | It's your worst nightmare after a month or so |
| [11:18:16] | Juski: | I should take a look at mythbayes sometime |
| [11:18:20] | Dagmar: | It'll find insanely obscure stuff you've never heard of that it turns out you really would have watched had you any idea they ever showed something like that on TV |
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| [11:20:26] | Dagmar: | It's like a candymaker that slowly but surely figures out your weaknesses, and then rolls up it's sleeves and sets about making you weigh 500lbs in a serious way. |
| [11:22:20] | [mbm]: | my suggestions menu has had the same crap for 2 years now |
| [11:24:36] | Juski: | wow. new plugin called mythmovies.. yet another thing to make a watermark/logo for |
| [11:25:53] | Merlin83b: | What does mythmovies do? |
| [11:26:07] | Juski: | shows USA users local movie showing times |
| [11:26:13] | Dagmar: | Handy! |
| [11:26:16] | Merlin83b: | Oh, handy. |
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| [11:26:47] | Merlin83b: | I really only use MythVideo and MythWeb from plugins. |
| [11:27:06] | jcsmith: | bofh_omega, Dagmar, thanks for the help, i see what you're saying now in the last bit, not very intuitive, yet after i do it, it makes sense |
| [11:28:54] | Juski: | I'm thinking about starting to use mythvideo as a music player – just make predefined playlists & have xine play em |
| [11:31:18] | bofh_omega: | hmm it should be possible to watch a record while recording it. Isn't it? |
| [11:31:55] | [mbm]: | bofh_omega: yep |
| [11:32:17] | bofh_omega: | k, so my mysql issue breaks this feature for now |
| [11:32:20] | bofh_omega: | ;) |
| [11:32:41] | [mbm]: | you can't tune to the channel but you can watch the program from the recording menu |
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| [11:33:47] | bofh_omega: | jep, thats how it should be. But in my case the programm recorded isn't shown in this menu. I get the file to harddisk, everythings ok with it. But because of the failed mysql query I can't watch it. |
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| [11:38:36] | seth|laptop: | hrm, is a "Skystar2" a sattelite card, or will it recieve local OTA HD as well? |
| [11:39:12] | Aid`: | i use mine for sat |
| [11:40:04] | GreyFoxx: | It's dvbs only I believe |
| [11:40:28] | seth|laptop: | here is the lspci output: |
| [11:40:35] | seth|laptop: | Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02) |
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| [11:43:17] | seth|laptop: | so this will definitely not receive OTA, if that is the case, I shouldn't buy it? |
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| [11:48:29] | Freman: | http://www.inaudible.co.uk/nuvexport/ <- Aren't I a nice fellow, I just spent 10 minutes recovering that page from google cache |
| [11:48:35] | Freman: | shame someone will trash it again |
| [11:48:55] | Juski: | usually the ffmpeg authors |
| [11:49:32] | Juski: | "I'm bored. I know, I'll change the command syntax again" |
| [11:51:08] | Dagmar: | This time 'round it's everyone |
| [11:51:14] | Dagmar: | mencoder and transcode as well |
| [11:55:06] | Juski: | heh but wouldn't life be so boring if all the options stayed the same & all people did was fix bugs? ;-) |
| [11:56:29] | Dibblah: | seth|laptop: Skystar will do satellite only. |
| [11:57:00] | Dibblah: | So what are you actually asking? It won't do DVB-s2 channels, it doesn't have a CAM slot. |
| [12:00:41] | Dibblah: | (Those are two seperate issues – Most of the HD channels are encrypted in most places, and most of the Eur providers are using DVB-S2 for those channels too) |
| [12:01:49] | Dibblah: | I am of course assuming you want sat stuff. And that you're in Europe ;) |
| [12:03:43] | BULLE: | Dibblah: sorry to barge in on the discussion, and you might have already explained this, but, if i buy a dvb receiver card, that has cam support, and buy one of the cheap ones with no video decoder on board, will i be able to receive HDTV streams aswell then ? |
| [12:03:58] | BULLE: | Dibblah: and then just use cpu and graphics card, to decode the hdtv stream |
| [12:03:59] | Dibblah: | Generally no. |
| [12:04:10] | BULLE: | Dibblah: oh, why not ? |
| [12:04:45] | Dibblah: | Most providers don't provide a CAM to plug in. Most providers are using DVB-S2, which isn't supported by Linux in any good way yet. |
| [12:04:45] | BULLE: | just write the bits to to hd, and have the software worry about decoding it ? |
| [12:05:00] | Dagmar: | That's pretty much the way Myth was designed to work, man |
| [12:05:19] | Dagmar: | The backend _just_ records, and the frontend _just_ plays. |
| [12:05:36] | BULLE: | Dagmar: yeah, this was more of a dvb question i guess |
| [12:05:36] | jcsmith: | will mythweb run with php5? |
| [12:05:46] | Dibblah: | Decoding <> Decrypting. |
| [12:05:55] | Juski: | jcsmith: yes |
| [12:05:56] | Dibblah: | Decrypting is done by the card. |
| [12:06:31] | Dibblah: | Well, actually, decrypting is done by the CAM. |
| [12:06:47] | Dibblah: | But the data stream gets passed through the CAM by the card. |
| [12:06:52] | ** jcsmith goes to try and figure out why mythweb is not working and begins to question my decision to install .20 ** | |
| [12:09:56] | Juski: | jcsmith: which 0.20 ? I had a problem yesterday on -fixes rev 113xx (or similar) which has a typo preventing recording_schedules.php working |
| [12:10:08] | Dagmar: | jcsmiht: You got myth-plugins-0.20a, right? |
| [12:10:26] | jcsmith: | i downloaded the -fixes branch saturday mid-day and compiled it |
| [12:10:31] | Dagmar: | There was a small, but sufficiently fatal "oopsie" in 0.20 that called for 0.20a to be released |
| [12:11:45] | jcsmith: | ...jucki: might the type-o have been in the .htaccess file because i can't get any of mythweb to work and in my apache logs there is an error complaining about this line: |
| [12:12:06] | jcsmith: | RewriteEngine |
| [12:12:18] | Juski: | jcsmith: you need mod_rewrite loaded in apache |
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| [12:14:14] | Juski: | and mod_env |
| [12:14:47] | Juski: | problem I had yesterday was just with mythweb loading but none of the tv related stuff worked. not 0.20a related stuff either |
| [12:16:37] | jcsmith: | i think most of my problems are stemming from upgrading my os at the same time i upgraded myth, quiet a lot changed between breezy and dapper i'm noticing |
| [12:17:11] | Juski: | apache has changed a fair bit I think |
| [12:17:45] | jcsmith: | yes it has, in breezy, with apache mod_rewrite was loaded by default |
| [12:17:46] | Juski: | to enable modules in apache you now have to make symlinks from mods_available to mods_enabled .. messy |
| [12:17:53] | jcsmith: | yea, i just discovered that |
| [12:18:08] | jcsmith: | altho, i think its quiet nice, much better than messing with the dammed apache.conf |
| [12:18:10] | Juski: | what the hell was wrong with leaving it all in apache.conf? |
| [12:18:20] | Juski: | we'll agree to disagree then |
| [12:18:22] | Juski: | ;) |
| [12:18:52] | jcsmith: | i'm sure that opinion just stems from my ignorance of apache tho |
| [12:25:51] | Juski: | I think mod_env & mod_rewrite were already enabled on my dapper box yesterday... maybe the previous mythtv (from packages) has changed the config |
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| [12:26:26] | Dagmar: | Juski: That sounds like packager-madness, not Apache-madness |
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| [12:27:54] | Juski: | yeah but the apache config changes still threw me a curve |
| [12:27:55] | seth|laptop: | upgraded my mythbox to .20 ove the weekend. openGL menus are sweet. But the internal DVD player is hosed. Had to go back to good old xine. Otherwise, an easy transition. |
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| [12:28:16] | Juski: | opengl sucks on my epia box |
| [12:28:38] | dopez: | i'm not even getting opengl to work on my epia ;) |
| [12:29:11] | Juski: | I can live without UI bling |
| [12:29:29] | Juski: | it's only a poxy fade now anyway, so not missing much for the time being |
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| [12:30:13] | Juski: | maybe I should go buy a pci fx5200 which I still can |
| [12:30:21] | Juski: | s/which/while |
| [12:30:40] | dopez: | hehe |
| [12:31:12] | Juski: | oo amazon have one.. only £77 (!!!!! WTF?!!) |
| [12:31:50] | dopez: | wow, i think i got my gf6600gt for that money ;) |
| [12:31:58] | ivor: | Juski: the gl fading should work fine. |
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| [12:32:06] | ivor: | looks very pretty. :) |
| [12:32:12] | Juski: | ivor: it should, but it doesn't |
| [12:32:20] | Juski: | looks like a jerky slow PoS |
| [12:32:50] | Juski: | I've seen it working properly & was hardly bowled over by it to be brutally honest |
| [12:37:47] | seth|laptop: | the fading is nifty, but it is just eyecandy. :-) |
| [12:39:14] | Juski: | I'd like to see a better mythmusic than eyecandy any day |
| [12:40:05] | seth|laptop: | does it use the opengl for the OSD now. It seems my OSD's are a bit sharper than before? |
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| [12:41:11] | Juski: | dunno |
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| [12:59:11] | ivor: | Juski: yup can't argue with that. |
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| [12:59:39] | ivor: | jerky slow PoS sounds like you have software only GL basically. |
| [13:00:52] | dopez: | yeah, i had that also on my epia, xorg.conf mentioned dri is enabled but glxinfo says no (found that out after seeing the slideshow ;) |
| [13:00:55] | Juski: | yeah I'll look into it when I get 0.20 up properly |
| [13:01:19] | ivor: | Juski: still persevering then. :) |
| [13:01:28] | Juski: | Pablo'll fix it I'm sure.. when I find out what's up |
| [13:01:44] | Juski: | ivor: only mythweb to fix & minimyth to tweak, then I'm all done |
| [13:02:14] | Juski: | good thing I kept my gentoo HDD though, or I'd not be quite so relaxed about it |
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| [13:24:36] | Freman: | awh bugga |
| [13:24:42] | Freman: | my "dvd" is only 650 megs |
| [13:24:57] | Freman: | reckon I can burn a cd as a dvd? |
| [13:29:48] | ivor: | Freman: of course you can.... as long as the player you're putting it in recognises CD's |
| [13:30:18] | Freman: | nah, soright, I need to test my burner with these blanks anyway |
| [13:31:28] | Dagmar: | I test with RW's |
| [13:31:59] | Merlin83b: | I've heard of CDs burned in DVD format referred to as MiniDVDs in the past, might be worth looking up. |
| [13:32:23] | Dagmar: | It doesn't matter if the iso image only came out to be 650Mb |
| [13:32:41] | Dagmar: | The formats are the same as far as the data is concerned |
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| [13:33:10] | LoneShadow: | 2006-10–02 06:32:27.153 TV Error: StartPlayer(): NVP is not playing after 20000 msec |
| [13:33:16] | Freman: | I'm only doing this to test my new burner... in 1 day it's done more coasters then my old pioneer did in 2 years |
| [13:33:42] | LoneShadow: | does 0.20 frontend require new configuration ? |
| [13:34:08] | Dagmar: | Nope |
| [13:34:12] | LoneShadow: | hmm |
| [13:34:31] | LoneShadow: | I just overwrote 0.19 with 0.20 |
| [13:34:51] | LoneShadow: | my frontend plays videos from video library, but dosnt play recorded videos |
| [13:35:27] | LoneShadow: | how do I change the time out from 20seconds ? |
| [13:35:34] | Freman: | I think I'll be starting my myth 0.20 from a fresh install |
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| [13:36:49] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: I assume you restarted both mythbackend and mythfrontend after the new software was installed ? |
| [13:37:19] | sunnyhours4130: | Have a question about hardware performance in mythtv. Out of a sempron 2400+ cpu, avermedia m179 tuner, and 512mb of 3200+ ddr, whats likely the biggest bottleneck of my system? |
| [13:38:30] | LoneShadow: | yes, otherwise it complains about mismatch version |
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| [13:40:58] | Juski: | sunnyhours4130: the user |
| [13:41:05] | sunnyhours4130: | heh |
| [13:41:16] | sunnyhours4130: | the "chair to keyboard interface" |
| [13:41:43] | Juski: | for SDTV that system should be more than capable |
| [13:41:59] | sunnyhours4130: | k |
| [13:43:20] | Juski: | wooyeah.. windows just let me hot-plug a floppy drive |
| [13:43:28] | Juski: | not a USB one either |
| [13:43:43] | Juski: | (don't try that at home. kids) |
| [13:43:46] | sunnyhours4130: | ick, what are you using either of those for? (floopy or windows) |
| [13:44:10] | Juski: | work.. I'm doing a thing to extract the SMART logs from HDDs & save them to floppy |
| [13:44:25] | sunnyhours4130: | sounds like fu |
| [13:44:26] | sunnyhours4130: | n |
| [13:44:28] | Juski: | if I had time I'd have made a linux boot cd which'd mount a USB HDD... |
| [13:44:59] | Juski: | but this is kinda... lastminute/yesterday |
| [13:45:03] | sunnyhours4130: | yeah |
| [13:45:28] | sunnyhours4130: | man......... is it just me or did ram get more expensive? |
| [13:45:42] | Juski: | damn/ need to reboot anyway.. brb |
| [13:45:53] | sunnyhours4130: | haha |
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| [13:46:43] | LoneShadow: | GreyFoxx:http://pastebin.ca/188751 |
| [13:46:50] | LoneShadow: | these are the errors I get |
| [13:48:00] | sunnyhours4130: | whats nvp? |
| [13:48:16] | LoneShadow: | player I think |
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| [13:49:34] | Juski: | bastard. floppy IT gave me is bollocks |
| [13:49:44] | sunnyhours4130: | lol |
| [13:51:23] | ivor: | sunnyhours4130: nuppel-video-player or do you mean a different nvp |
| [13:51:28] | Juski: | I dunno why the brown stuff always has to head in the direction of the whirly thing on mondays & fridays |
| [13:51:44] | Dagmar: | Juski: Spread more fear at the office |
| [13:51:48] | ivor: | s/mondays&fridays/mondays to fridays/ |
| [13:52:33] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: You might wanna look at increasing the debug level to get more output as that dioesn't tell you much |
| [13:52:39] | GreyFoxx: | do you see anything on the backend ? |
| [13:54:52] | LoneShadow: | I am rebuilding the frontend with Xvmc=off |
| [13:55:02] | LoneShadow: | not sure if that was supposed to be off or on |
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| [13:56:38] | Honk^gone: | is there any way to tell mythtv to record 2 episodes that run right after each other from 2 different sources? |
| [13:56:55] | Honk^gone: | it always cuts off the end of the first episode and records it as start of the second :/ |
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| [13:58:16] | Dagmar: | If you've got two tuners |
| [13:58:31] | Dagmar: | Otherwise the best you can hope for is to sync your clock |
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| [13:58:56] | Honk^gone: | the clock's ok, the tv isnt :P |
| [13:59:09] | Honk^gone: | i do have 2 tuners |
| [13:59:29] | Honk^gone: | but it still ends the first episode at the time the second one starts recording |
| [13:59:58] | Honk^gone: | mhh.. or maybe i'm just reading the mythweb page wrong =) |
| [14:01:37] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: It shouldn't matter |
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| [14:02:44] | Kelerion: | morning all :) |
| [14:02:59] | Freman: | VBR quality/quantisation (1–31)? <- would 1 be higher quality? or would 31? |
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| [14:09:06] | Juski: | heya Kelerion.. long time no see.. you been on hollyhollydays? |
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| [14:10:34] | LoneShadow: | GreyFoxx: whats the diff between the video preview we get in the small window while browsing the recordings Vs playing actual recordings ? |
| [14:10:58] | ivor: | one's a lot smaller? :P |
| [14:11:01] | LoneShadow: | coz it plays the previews as soon I move the selector over the recordings, has problems only when I try play the recorded one |
| [14:11:08] | LoneShadow: | ivor :P |
| [14:11:43] | kazer_: | any gentooist here able to export to xvid with nuvexport? |
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| [14:12:43] | Kelerion: | hey Juski ... not exactly..lol.. been in hospital... |
| [14:12:43] | GreyFoxx: | the most obvious diff is that one uses X11 for output and the other will use xv if available. I seem to remember also finding that the preview window would use the local(or network mounted) file system if the file was available where as normal playback would use mythbackend even though it could have used the direct playback |
| [14:13:34] | fryfrog: | KaZeR: you have xvid use flag? |
| [14:13:40] | LoneShadow: | I dont think I am exporting any nfs mounts for the recordings |
| [14:14:16] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: I wouldn't expect there to be much difference then, but I'd have to trace the code to really find out |
| [14:14:34] | LoneShadow: | how do I increase the timeout ? |
| [14:14:36] | KaZeR: | fryfrog, yup :) in fact, ffmpeg segfaults when i try to export.. |
| [14:14:41] | fryfrog: | KaZeR: oh! |
| [14:14:57] | fryfrog: | KaZeR: did you check bugs.gentoo.org? Possible its an ffmpeg issue perhaps? |
| [14:15:01] | Juski: | hoppytal? oof... hope you're alright now fella :) |
| [14:15:02] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: I doubt it's configurable |
| [14:15:06] | GreyFoxx: | other than in code |
| [14:15:26] | GreyFoxx: | and if it hasn't started after 20 seconds, it's not gonna |
| [14:15:37] | jblack: | random note for those that like to help out: |
| [14:15:44] | Freman: | crap |
| [14:15:49] | GreyFoxx: | Like I said, increase the debug level on th4e frontend and also look at the backends logs |
| [14:16:01] | Freman: | it seems somewhere between recording, fixing my nfs and finally transcoding, I've chopped the end off an episode )c: |
| [14:16:02] | GreyFoxx: | one of them likely is gonna say something that helps |
| [14:16:18] | jblack: | I 've had a considerable problem over the last three weeks with mythtv locking up if I didn't touch the keyboard for 10–15 minutes. |
| [14:16:38] | GreyFoxx: | Your machine going to sleep ? |
| [14:16:40] | fryfrog: | xset s off, xset -dpms |
| [14:16:48] | LoneShadow: | I got "-v all" debugs on the frontend, looking at it now |
| [14:17:02] | jblack: | I finally tracked the problem down to nat. The database connection goes unused for awhile and nat silently closes it. |
| [14:17:17] | KaZeR: | fryfrog, if it works for you, i'd be glad if you could msg me your versions and use flags of nuvexport and ffmpeg |
| [14:17:23] | GreyFoxx: | jblack: That would be a problem |
| [14:17:41] | KaZeR: | fryfrog, i had a look at bugs.gentoo.org, but didn't find anything. i'm double checking |
| [14:17:48] | jblack: | GreyFoxx: Yeah. Already resolved. Just wanted to drop a note here so that if someone else comes along... |
| [14:18:01] | Juski: | jblack: maybe put that on the wikiwikiwah |
| [14:18:16] | jblack: | I can probably do that. |
| [14:20:26] | Freman: | ah crap |
| [14:20:33] | Freman: | nuvexport isn't seeing the whole nuv file |
| [14:22:45] | KaZeR: | Freman, how big is the original show? |
| [14:24:18] | LoneShadow: | 2006-10–02 07:23:34.416 TV: StartPlayer(): took 20770 ms to start player. |
| [14:24:18] | LoneShadow: | 2006-10–02 07:23:35.213 TV Error: StartPlayer(): NVP is not playing after 20000 msec |
| [14:24:26] | Freman: | 2.7 gigs (it's been transcoded) |
| [14:24:34] | Freman: | it see's it's 7.9 gig bigger brother |
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| [14:24:38] | LoneShadow: | GreyFoxx: cant find anything wrong in the error logs |
| [14:25:02] | DigerLAP: | hey does anyong think this pc will be ok, or cause problems |
| [14:25:02] | DigerLAP: | http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDoc . . . g_R1002_USEN |
| [14:25:04] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: hmmm... This on your MSNTV2 ? |
| [14:25:10] | DigerLAP: | for knoppmyth |
| [14:25:11] | KaZeR: | Freman, isn't you that had troubles last week with >4G files over nfs? |
| [14:25:20] | Freman: | yeh I fixed that |
| [14:25:22] | KaZeR: | that /who (forgive my english :) |
| [14:25:29] | LoneShadow: | yea |
| [14:25:35] | Freman: | I think it might be because this file got double transcoded |
| [14:25:35] | LoneShadow: | was working fine with 0.19 |
| [14:25:54] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: There is a patch you will wanna use otherwise all of your colours will be blue shifted |
| [14:26:04] | KaZeR: | Freman, i don't see where double transcoding would cut the end of a show.. |
| [14:26:06] | LoneShadow: | patch for what ? |
| [14:26:09] | seth|laptop: | heh, DigerLAP, I was just reading your post in the forum. Looks good, but add another 512MB of RAM |
| [14:26:14] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: For mythtv |
| [14:26:25] | LoneShadow: | I took the sources from the svn |
| [14:26:27] | GreyFoxx: | There is a bug in the IEGD drivers handling of i420 |
| [14:26:30] | KaZeR: | i'd rather say that either cutlist was erroneus, or the transcode died at some point |
| [14:26:34] | LoneShadow: | oh |
| [14:26:50] | GreyFoxx: | Same bug affects ATI proprietary drivers |
| [14:26:57] | GreyFoxx: | it's fixed in latest svn head |
| [14:27:07] | GreyFoxx: | but not in -fixes or 0.20 release |
| [14:27:13] | LoneShadow: | aah ok |
| [14:27:22] | GreyFoxx: | That would not be the cause of the slow startup, but it will be a problem anyway :) |
| [14:27:34] | LoneShadow: | was the patch required for 0.19 fixes release as well ? |
| [14:27:38] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [14:28:07] | DigerLAP: | <seth|laptop> heh, DigerLAP, I was just reading your post in the forum. Looks good, but add another 512MB of RAM |
| [14:28:08] | DigerLAP: | GREAT |
| [14:28:20] | DigerLAP: | I will get another stick and that pvr 150 and give it a go |
| [14:28:23] | LoneShadow: | so are you running 0.20 + patch on your msntv2 ? |
| [14:28:33] | DigerLAP: | is there a doc on the manual install somewhere cause its a sata drive |
| [14:28:44] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: YEah |
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| [14:29:04] | GreyFoxx: | But mine is also a little customized as I've been working on speeding up playback startup |
| [14:29:17] | GreyFoxx: | I dropped 4 seconds from mine. Down from 10 to 6 |
| [14:29:27] | LoneShadow: | nice |
| [14:29:31] | seth|laptop: | DigerLAP, is it a "knoppmyth only" install, or are you going to dual boot? |
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| [14:29:40] | GreyFoxx: | I'm putting up the patch somewhere you can get it (the video patch) |
| [14:29:43] | DigerLAP: | knoppmyth only |
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| [14:29:47] | LoneShadow: | can you post your mythtv/config.mak on pastebin.ca |
| [14:29:50] | DigerLAP: | gonna sit in a cabinet under tv |
| [14:30:01] | LoneShadow: | I want to compare and see if my build is messed up |
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| [14:30:28] | seth|laptop: | then the regular knoppmyth pamphlet instructions should be fine for "Manual install" just substitue /dev/sda where they want /dev/hda |
| [14:30:39] | LoneShadow: | I followed http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html Section 9.8 for building 0.19 as well as 0.20 |
| [14:30:49] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/msntv/i830mIEGD.patch |
| [14:31:14] | DigerLAP: | gotcha |
| [14:31:44] | seth|laptop: | http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?id=KnoppMythInstall or follow this from the wiki |
| [14:32:06] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: My config.mak is there too |
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| [14:32:48] | GreyFoxx: | I'm in the process of updating the box to latestsvn right now |
| [14:34:38] | LLcoolM: | ok, my tvcapturecard works now with tvtime but still isnt recognized by mythtv |
| [14:35:01] | DigerLAP: | thx seth|laptop |
| [14:35:37] | DigerLAP: | one of my biggest hurdles is attic time and getting a network cable run from the switch to the tv cabinet in the LV |
| [14:35:57] | DigerLAP: | unless wireless can work good, but I have heard bad things about wireless with knoppmyth |
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| [14:40:20] | metalac: | if you are running 1080i without XvMC, can you tell me what CPU you have? |
| [14:41:15] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: You should just email the -users list |
| [14:41:26] | GreyFoxx: | you are gonna get the same people over and over again here :) |
| [14:41:48] | metalac: | true |
| [14:42:15] | metalac: | i'm almost done recompiling my system with gcc4.1 to see if it makes any difference |
| [14:44:29] | LoneShadow: | GreyFoxx:http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/170259 |
| [14:44:51] | LoneShadow: | at the end he mentions that he changed the timeout, not sure how |
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| [14:54:38] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: That would be by editing code :) |
| [14:55:09] | GreyFoxx: | If it's taking more than 20 seconds to start you have aserious problem |
| [14:55:28] | GreyFoxx: | you could always nfs mount the recordings and try manually starting a recording |
| [14:55:32] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv file.mpg |
| [14:58:49] | GreyFoxx: | I'm hoping to test the new version of the IEGD driver in the next couple days. See how well the OpenGL support works |
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| [15:00:51] | jeffmeden: | hey guys |
| [15:01:39] | jeffmeden: | i have a feeling i am missing something when it comes to lircd, i have an IR remote and an RF remote and i can't get either to work for squat |
| [15:02:07] | jeffmeden: | irw doesnt show a thing when i run lircd on either device |
| [15:05:00] | scopeuk: | GreyFoxx that on msntv2? |
| [15:05:26] | GreyFoxx: | scopeuk: Yup |
| [15:05:52] | scopeuk: | sweet |
| [15:06:20] | ** scopeuk is in the process of grabbig nsome debian install dvds to update his system and is finding the throtteling someowhat irritating ** | |
| [15:06:24] | jeffmeden: | and whats up with the mythtv web page? |
| [15:06:42] | jeffmeden: | kind of hard to find help on my own when its borked |
| [15:06:53] | scopeuk: | its fine here |
| [15:07:06] | jeffmeden: | all weekend it was out for me |
| [15:07:14] | GreyFoxx: | It's been having issues for days |
| [15:07:22] | jeffmeden: | now the page is there but the wiki is half broke |
| [15:07:25] | LoneShadow: | didnt they change the server ip ? |
| [15:07:27] | GreyFoxx: | and I think the wiki is flaky at the moment |
| [15:07:35] | jeffmeden: | i got a wiki main page but went to search and now i get squat |
| [15:07:36] | GreyFoxx: | LoneShadow: New box, new cost |
| [15:07:37] | LoneShadow: | yes, wiki is still broken |
| [15:07:38] | GreyFoxx: | err new host |
| [15:07:46] | LoneShadow: | svn.mythtv.org works though :D |
| [15:07:49] | scopeuk: | yeh its been regiged as per front page |
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| [15:08:46] | jeffmeden: | so can anyone give me some lircd advice? i cant get any output from either remote i try |
| [15:09:36] | jeffmeden: | one is an ati USB/RF remote wonder and another is a leadtek wintv2000 coolcommand |
| [15:09:51] | jeffmeden: | both have templates from lirc so someone must have gotten them working |
| [15:10:45] | jeffmeden: | the device shows up in /dev, i can start lircd with the right conf file, but when i run irw it gives me nothing. is there something more i am missing? |
| [15:10:48] | BULLE: | start with actualy looking at dmesg outupt. to make sure all modules gets loaded etc |
| [15:11:10] | jeffmeden: | /dev/lirc0 is my usb driver and /dev/lirc1 is my IR driver |
| [15:11:27] | jeffmeden: | i start lircd with the -d /dev/lirc# option |
| [15:11:51] | jeffmeden: | modules look good in lsmod | grep lirc |
| [15:12:02] | jeffmeden: | i've got to be missing something though |
| [15:12:46] | jeffmeden: | i should probably mention i am using the lircd built into mythdora |
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| [15:13:45] | orogor: | hi here |
| [15:13:51] | orogor: | any frenchg people around ? |
| [15:15:24] | hashbang: | ne ici pas, desolé! :-/ |
| [15:15:45] | Honk^gone: | jeffmeden: can you cat the device while lirc is not running? |
| [15:16:09] | jeffmeden: | cat what? the lirc# device? |
| [15:16:13] | jeffmeden: | i hadn't tried that |
| [15:16:24] | orogor: | haha |
| [15:16:32] | jeffmeden: | it should show the remote codes coming in? |
| [15:16:35] | orogor: | i dont manage to set anything properly |
| [15:16:44] | Paladine: | any brits awake? |
| [15:17:12] | Honk^gone: | jeffmeden: it should show some garbage =) |
| [15:17:15] | Honk^gone: | if you press your remote |
| [15:18:08] | jblack: | Does mythmusic go on the frontend or the backend? |
| [15:18:14] | jeffmeden: | i see... so if that works and irw doesn't what would that mean? i have a broken lircd? |
| [15:18:24] | Honk^gone: | jblack: frontend :) |
| [15:18:29] | Ibeam: | Paladine: yes the one brit here |
| [15:18:29] | Honk^gone: | jeffmeden: did you set up your remote? ;) |
| [15:18:39] | jeffmeden: | 'set up my remote |
| [15:18:42] | Paladine: | lbeam you seen this http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/117804 |
| [15:18:46] | jblack: | Hmm. WHen I wonder where it is.. |
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| [15:18:51] | jeffmeden: | whats to set up? |
| [15:19:01] | KaZeR: | fryfrog? |
| [15:19:06] | Honk^gone: | read the lirc installation tutorial =) |
| [15:19:27] | jeffmeden: | i got the config file from the web site, made a lircd.conf and then started lircd with that and the device specified |
| [15:19:29] | Honk^gone: | you gotta create /etc/lircd.conf somehow for example :] |
| [15:19:44] | Honk^gone: | sounds like your config isnt working :P |
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| [15:19:51] | Honk^gone: | how did ya "make" it? =) |
| [15:19:57] | jeffmeden: | so thats what my problem is!!! |
| [15:19:59] | jeffmeden: | sigh |
| [15:20:26] | jeffmeden: | i used one of the prefabricated conf files |
| [15:20:36] | Honk^gone: | maybe it's not for your remote? =) |
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| [15:20:45] | Honk^gone: | try running the setup tool.. |
| [15:20:47] | Ibeam: | Paladine: wow, the page is taking for ever to load, heh.. reminds me of the good ol' days.. |
| [15:20:55] | jeffmeden: | correct me if im wrong but shouldnt irw show output no matter what |
| [15:21:02] | jeffmeden: | so long as the device i name is the right one |
| [15:21:05] | Paladine: | lbeam, 19" LCD 8MS response time for under 100 quid |
| [15:21:09] | Honk^gone: | jeffmeden: wrong :) |
| [15:21:21] | jeffmeden: | so what in the conf file specifies the remote |
| [15:21:21] | Paladine: | dvi too |
| [15:21:24] | Paladine: | with cable |
| [15:21:29] | Honk^gone: | irw will only show output if lircd can make out what key you pressed |
| [15:21:35] | Ibeam: | very nice |
| [15:21:39] | jeffmeden: | its only for keymapping |
| [15:21:42] | Paladine: | just bought two |
| [15:21:49] | Ibeam: | Paladine: widescreen? |
| [15:21:51] | Paladine: | figured I would share the find with other brits :) |
| [15:21:54] | Paladine: | no 4:3 |
| [15:22:01] | jeffmeden: | well i have tried all the available config files |
| [15:22:09] | jeffmeden: | i also tried irrecord but that reported nothing |
| [15:22:12] | Paladine: | 3 year warranty too |
| [15:22:13] | Honk^gone: | jeffmeden: well.. create one yoruself? =) |
| [15:22:17] | Ibeam: | Paladine: still , a catch thanx Paladine |
| [15:22:24] | Paladine: | I am replacing my dual 21" CRTs with two of those |
| [15:22:40] | Honk^gone: | try again ;) |
| [15:22:57] | Honk^gone: | if cat works but irrecord doesnt, you're prolly using the wrong device with irrecord |
| [15:25:11] | jeffmeden: | what does irrecord need to know about when it starts |
| [15:25:22] | jeffmeden: | just the /dev/lirc# right? |
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| [15:30:07] | DigerLAP: | seth|laptop whats the differance in the pvr150 and the pvr150 mce |
| [15:32:56] | seth|laptop: | DigerLAP pvr150 has irblaster jacks (for contrlling set top boxes_ pvr150mce does not. I use the mce one with a serial port irblaster. |
| [15:37:01] | Honk^gone: | jeffmeden: sounds about right |
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| [15:37:52] | LoneShadow: | GreyFoxx: it does play with "mythtv file.mpg" after more than 20 seconds delay |
| [15:41:13] | seth|laptop: | when you use mythdvdburn, does it make the tv shows smaller, to fit on the dvd, or deos that need to be done ahead of time? |
| [15:42:27] | DigerLAP: | that raises a questionof my own, will i be able to save tv shows in divx avi format? |
| [15:43:36] | seth|laptop: | http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=NuvexportToDVD this says yes. :-) |
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| [15:44:07] | DigerLAP: | sweet nipple popsicles!! |
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| [15:44:11] | seth|laptop: | http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=XviDEncoding as does this |
| [15:44:14] | DigerLAP: | this myth is gonna do it all |
| [15:44:18] | seth|laptop: | let me know how you make out. |
| [15:45:01] | seth|laptop: | my guess would be that you do not wnat KM R5D1 though. Transcode is supposedly borked. Use R5C7. |
| [15:45:20] | DigerLAP: | k |
| [15:45:40] | seth|laptop: | When I upgraded to R5D1, I couldn't even get commflag to work |
| [15:45:42] | seth|laptop: | :-( |
| [15:46:36] | DigerLAP: | I will probably put r5c7 on there and never upgrade |
| [15:46:59] | DigerLAP: | if it works I will never mess with it in that regard without an image backup |
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| [15:47:16] | seth|laptop: | so i rolled back to R5C7, and I just manually built mythtv .20 over the weekend. Now I will wait until the next release. The forums are riddled with D1 headaches, some of my own actually, and C7 has been great. Besides, the wife couldn't deal with a major system issue right now. She is addicted to mythtv, heh |
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| [15:48:23] | seth|laptop: | which is why the dvd burn issue has risen. She records shows all day while we are at work, and they fill up the harddrive pretty fast at 6 or 7 GB an hour. |
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| [15:48:45] | DigerLAP: | 6 or 7 per hour, HD ? |
| [15:48:49] | seth|laptop: | yeah |
| [15:48:54] | DigerLAP: | ah |
| [15:49:23] | metalac: | ahahaha |
| [15:49:28] | metalac: | whoops wrong window ;) |
| [15:50:01] | seth|laptop: | the dish network shows she records are only like 2 to 3GB an hour, but they are piling up as well. Yesterday we were out and about all day, and she recorded the entire Law and Order SVU season 7, my hard drives (LVM) is down to 118GB, another series spree, and I'm doomed, hehe |
| [15:51:32] | DigerLAP: | forgive me for being lame but since I dont yet have it installed I have some questions on what it can do, I have read a lot about what it CAN do and im excited, BUT can it record a whole season of a certain show like tv season pass |
| [15:51:57] | seth|laptop: | but the killer is the boohbah shows she records off of PBS-HD for our daughter, they are taking up serious soace at 2 to three shows a day. Thank goodness myth is smart enough not to rerecord items already stored on the drive/db |
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| [15:52:15] | jams: | DigerLAP yes |
| [15:52:21] | seth|laptop: | if you can see it in the program guide, it will record it |
| [15:52:21] | jblack: | seth|laptop: Any particular reason you need to cram them in at the highest resolution? |
| [15:52:29] | DigerLAP: | sweet |
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| [15:52:46] | seth|laptop: | jblack, I am not sure how to do it differently, I figured the HDTV card was set at a fixed stream |
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| [15:53:37] | seth|laptop: | I would love to figure out how to do more to the shows than just flag commercials, but I have not tried transcoding yet. The one time I attempted it, it went from 3.5G to 3.4GB not much of a difference |
| [15:54:38] | jblack: | seth|laptop: I don't have a hdtv card here, but under Setup->TV Settings->Recording Profiles->Software encoders, I was able to set the resolution and quality level. |
| [15:54:53] | scopeuk: | seth|laptop 100 meg is alot if you have 500 files |
| [15:55:06] | jblack: | Lost and Jericho gets recorded at a nice resolution. The news and kids show gets recorded at crappy resolutions. |
| [15:55:13] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [15:55:23] | seth|laptop: | scopeuk, very true |
| [15:55:30] | scopeuk: | season 3 starts soon in the states dont it? |
| [15:55:32] | jblack: | Failing that, you can certainly turn on transcoding and resize it once its done recording. |
| [15:55:52] | jblack: | scopeuk: Yeah. Last week they did the "What happened last year" show. |
| [15:56:06] | scopeuk: | wed i think |
| [15:56:10] | hjohnson: | alas, I'll be on my way to africa.. |
| [15:56:17] | hjohnson: | (when Lost and BSG premier) |
| [15:56:28] | scopeuk: | alas ill still be stuck at uni in the uk |
| [15:56:31] | jblack: | hjohnson: So record, nuvexport, and download it. :) |
| [15:56:55] | scopeuk: | jblack mabywith your conenction with my hpome connection i could get 12.5k up theoretical maximum |
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| [15:57:17] | scopeuk: | easier to get my dad to post me a dvd up once a week |
| [15:58:42] | Pryon: | seth|laptop: Do the channels you watch not have many commercials? My recordings shrink between 20–25% after just cutting commercials |
| [15:58:47] | seth|laptop: | so BSG starts on friday, I need to fire up mythweb and set it to record. Almost forgot. |
| [15:59:35] | seth|laptop: | Pyron, I have not tried to cut commercials out yet, only flag them. But the PBS shows, in HD, don't generally have commercials, just the shows |
| [16:00:27] | Pryon: | Ah. I'm surprised they shrink *at all*, then. |
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| [16:00:37] | seth|laptop: | I'm sure the svu shows she recorded, could probably be cut to 1GB each if I could cut oiut the commercials |
| [16:00:53] | Pryon: | oh never mind, I'm being my usual idiot self |
| [16:01:12] | seth|laptop: | tehy currently weigh in at about 2.1GB each, and it was TBS, so there were probably alot of commercials |
| [16:01:58] | seth|laptop: | I will mess with the transcoding settings tonight when I get home. Perhaps they will yeild smaller files |
| [16:04:38] | jblack: | you may need an mpeg card to do the heavy lifting, btw. |
| [16:04:56] | jblack: | and also bear in mind that you'll be turning your nice hdtv into a low end tv. :) |
| [16:05:09] | jblack: | but the kid probably won't care |
| [16:05:29] | DigerLAP: | L O S T comes on WED , man im ready!! |
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| [16:10:37] | scopeuk: | well there go the tubes |
| [16:10:51] | seth|laptop: | My daughter is only 11months old, she wouldn't notice the difference. I ahve also impported some of my dvd collection (Firefly) the series to be exact, and transcoding them at good, brought the file down from 4.2GB more or less to 1GB, and the quality is excellent. I would hope HD would compress as nice as that |
| [16:10:53] | scopeuk: | new season of lost its all voer |
| [16:11:30] | scopeuk: | i need to buy firefly |
| [16:11:50] | scopeuk: | serenity was fantastic and firefly looks promising ( i know i have that the wrong way round but thats hwo i watched it) |
| [16:11:51] | ** seth|laptop likes firefly ** | |
| [16:12:17] | seth|laptop: | i didn't know about firefly (waits for the boo's) until I saw serenity |
| [16:12:43] | scopeuk: | id heard of it but never got round to watchign it till i saw serenity |
| [16:12:54] | LoneShadow: | same here, saw serinity first |
| [16:13:01] | LoneShadow: | firefly is pretty cool |
| [16:14:16] | fryfrog: | bah! |
| [16:14:30] | fryfrog: | if you watch serenity first, you partially screw up firefly! |
| [16:14:46] | opello: | yeah |
| [16:14:57] | scopeuk: | theres no disclaimer on the box |
| [16:14:58] | scopeuk: | ill cope |
| [16:15:01] | opello: | firefly in the right order first :) |
| [16:15:14] | scopeuk: | well yeh whould be better but i cant unwatch serenity |
| [16:15:16] | fryfrog: | i'd seen a few episodes, but i was honestly not very impressed by the western-ness of the sci-fi show |
| [16:15:21] | ** scopeuk inverts servenity and watches it ** | |
| [16:15:35] | fryfrog: | but when i heard they were making a movie, i went back and netflixed all the shows :) |
| [16:17:07] | Anduin: | There are a few hours you will never get back. |
| [16:17:21] | fryfrog: | Like Supernova? |
| [16:17:28] | opello: | i never get any of my hours back :( |
| [16:17:50] | opello: | stupid relativity |
| [16:18:04] | fryfrog: | damn you speed of light! |
| [16:18:31] | opello: | non-zero mass doomed us all |
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| [16:19:44] | LoneShadow: | after upgrading to 0.20 can I go back to 0.19 without changing anything in the database ? |
| [16:19:55] | fryfrog: | no |
| [16:19:56] | scopeuk: | all you need to do is figure away to blow yourself into an infinate numeb of massless pieces then you can exist for ever ;-) |
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| [16:20:00] | seth|laptop: | if you dump it first and then restore it |
| [16:20:03] | fryfrog: | make a db dump before you upgrade to 0.20 |
| [16:20:12] | opello: | scopeuk: i'll get right on that :) |
| [16:20:14] | fryfrog: | if you don't like it, go back to 0.19 and load your db |
| [16:20:21] | LoneShadow: | yea I have taken a db dump before upgrading |
| [16:20:31] | fryfrog: | then you should be fine :) |
| [16:20:33] | LoneShadow: | but do I "have" to restore it ? |
| [16:20:37] | fryfrog: | yes |
| [16:20:45] | LoneShadow: | ok |
| [16:20:46] | fryfrog: | you have to drop the 0.20 db and re-create the 0.19 one |
| [16:20:50] | LoneShadow: | that explains the frontend crashing |
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| [16:21:00] | LoneShadow: | err, never mind, it worked |
| [16:21:18] | LoneShadow: | dont know why it crashed first time |
| [16:21:22] | fryfrog: | i have *no* idea what would work and what wouldn't, but there will be *something* for sure |
| [16:21:31] | fryfrog: | each "major" release changes the db in some way or another |
| [16:21:47] | LoneShadow: | 0.20 is not working out well for me :( |
| [16:21:48] | fryfrog: | so you might find almost everything works except... mythvideo |
| [16:21:49] | fryfrog: | or something |
| [16:21:55] | fryfrog: | worked fine for me :) |
| [16:22:01] | fryfrog: | in fact, better than 0.19 |
| [16:22:01] | LoneShadow: | its good that I didnt delete 0.19 |
| [16:22:26] | seth|laptop: | I upgraded saturday night, and other than the Internal DVD player not functioning I have no complaints |
| [16:22:32] | LoneShadow: | mplayer file.avi works, but not mythtv file.avi on 0.20 |
| [16:22:45] | LoneShadow: | it does work with mythtv, but takes more than 20 seconds |
| [16:23:11] | opello: | why would you do it that way and not use myth video? |
| [16:23:15] | LoneShadow: | but frontend playback of recorded media just shows black screen |
| [16:24:47] | fryfrog: | isn't that a bit of a weird way to *use* muth? |
| [16:24:53] | fryfrog: | or is everything slow to show / black? |
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| [16:25:57] | LoneShadow: | my mythfront end might be broken |
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| [16:27:20] | DigerLAP: | when it comes to /dev/sda and /dev/hda what does the A in sda and hda stand for? |
| [16:27:33] | Pryon: | first device on that interface |
| [16:27:50] | DigerLAP: | ohh |
| [16:27:52] | Pryon: | second would be /dev/sdb or /dev/hdb etc |
| [16:27:57] | DigerLAP: | gotcha |
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| [16:37:37] | jeffmeden: | so i set a recording to auto-flag commercials and it recorded, and it flagged |
| [16:37:42] | jeffmeden: | according to the job manager |
| [16:37:53] | jeffmeden: | but it doesnt show up in the recordings list |
| [16:38:02] | jeffmeden: | the list of what can be watched locally |
| [16:39:29] | fryfrog: | i've noticed a few of those |
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| [16:39:38] | fryfrog: | i'll go to skip a commercial and it says it isn't flagged |
| [16:39:45] | fryfrog: | but the FE seems to think it is, and a job ran for it |
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| [16:44:00] | lostboy1: | hi, can I run a dedicated mythfrontend 0.20 against a mythbackend 0.19? or should both machines use the same version? |
| [16:44:16] | seth|laptop: | I don't think that would work |
| [16:44:20] | orogor: | i got heaps of problems if somone feels like helping me |
| [16:44:23] | DigerLAP: | reading what you wrote jeffmeden will myth record shows and not record the commercials or do you does it just flag em for skipping during playback? |
| [16:45:01] | jeffmeden: | fryfrog: what i mean is the recording itself isnt on the list |
| [16:45:07] | jeffmeden: | its like its ignoring it for some reason |
| [16:45:10] | orogor: | the backend randomely stop to accept connections |
| [16:45:14] | jeffmeden: | it shows up in the web interface |
| [16:45:18] | orogor: | my tv guide is empty |
| [16:45:40] | orogor: | if i start to atch tv , then stop , then it s still recording |
| [16:45:49] | orogor: | and i can t watvh tv again |
| [16:50:05] | orogor: | humm |
| [16:50:18] | orogor: | alsdo the frontyend seems to just crash when trying to delete a recording |
| [16:50:51] | seth|laptop: | sounds like something is recording. can you watch the show in the "recorded programs screen", and if you do not wish it to record, from the same screen, you can cancel the recording |
| [16:52:40] | DigerLAP: | seth|laptop did you say you have this one http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Hauppauge-WinT . . . uctDetail.do |
| [16:53:13] | DigerLAP: | if so how does the remote work the computer? A usb IRD port? |
| [16:53:52] | seth|laptop: | DigerLAP, yes |
| [16:53:56] | seth|laptop: | USB |
| [16:53:59] | DigerLAP: | sweet |
| [16:54:33] | seth|laptop: | during the install, you select MCEUSB from the options knoppmyth gives you, and then it just works :-) |
| [16:54:43] | DigerLAP: | ok |
| [16:55:35] | seth|laptop: | I had to give mine up, as it didn't have the 17' range from my big screen to my recliner. I went with the ATI Remote Wonder RF remote. Now it works from other rooms, which is handy when changing out tunes |
| [16:56:20] | DigerLAP: | what size bigscreen you have |
| [16:56:41] | seth|laptop: | its only a 43" 4:3, but it works great, and its only 3 yrs old. |
| [16:57:03] | orogor: | 2006-10–02 18:56:43.196 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [16:57:03] | orogor: | 2006-10–02 18:56:50.202 MythSocket(80e1b10:15): readStringList: Error, timeout (quick). |
| [16:57:03] | orogor: | 2006-10–02 18:56:50.202 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
| [16:57:08] | orogor: | i got stuff like this right now |
| [16:57:15] | nasa: | Hi, could anyone help me troubleshoot a "QMYSQL3 driver not loaded" message? I just updated my mythbox to Mandriva 2007 (plus updated some hardware). |
| [16:57:51] | lostboy1: | jeffmeden: are you having a problem where you have setup programs to record, but the system is not adding the new programs to the record list? |
| [16:57:58] | seth|laptop: | orogor, is your frontend the same version as your backend? |
| [16:58:03] | orogor: | i think so |
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| [16:58:46] | fryfrog: | seth|laptop: was that remote reasonably okay to setup in myth? |
| [16:58:50] | jeffmeden: | lostboy1: no they record fine they dont show up on the frontend's list of watchables though |
| [16:58:51] | seth|laptop: | nansa, it is possible that Mandriva 2007 installed a newer version of MYSQL? |
| [16:59:32] | orogor: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Z8POBZ47.html |
| [16:59:39] | lostboy1: | jeffmeden: oh, well, I think i read something in the FAQ about that, something like you may have a filter applied, not sure though |
| [16:59:43] | DigerLAP: | I once had this, but sold that house and left it in there http://67.60.115.225:8080/photos/displayimage . . . 0&pos=30 |
| [16:59:46] | DigerLAP: | 60" |
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| [16:59:52] | DigerLAP: | it was soo nice to have |
| [17:00:06] | seth|laptop: | fryfrog, I just ran 'lirc-reconfig.sh' and knoppmyth installed it for me, but I did tweak the lirc.conf file, to enable some different keys. The only problem I have with it, is if my daughter, or cats unplug it. It requires a reboot to get it back again. It's USB. |
| [17:00:37] | fryfrog: | oh, thats odd |
| [17:00:47] | orogor: | looks like it s same version to me |
| [17:00:49] | fryfrog: | i'd have though a rmmod / modprobe would pick it up again? |
| [17:01:14] | fryfrog: | actually, i'd have thought plug/unplug wouldn't need *anything*, but failing that an rmmod / modprobe should do it |
| [17:01:44] | seth|laptop: | thats what I thought. And when it unplugs, lircd takes up a steady 43% of the cpu. killing the process removes it, and then restarting it brings it back down to like .06% but the remote no longer works, until I rebbot, kind of a pain. :-( |
| [17:01:53] | fryfrog: | could you use the internal USB header on your motherboard to hook up a usb port that you leave *inside* the case, that way they can't even reach it? |
| [17:01:59] | ivor: | oh what a complete wally. |
| [17:02:04] | jeffmeden: | fryfrog: yeah it would be nice if i could read the faq |
| [17:02:17] | ivor: | I guess it won't find any channels... if I've disconnected the aerial. |
| [17:02:21] | seth|laptop: | thats a good idea fryfrog, I do hav a header available in there |
| [17:02:23] | ivor: | what a plank. |
| [17:02:26] | fryfrog: | maybe not :) |
| [17:02:33] | fryfrog: | seth|laptop: thats what i'd do :) |
| [17:02:36] | nasa: | seth|laptop — yes |
| [17:02:38] | fryfrog: | or super-glue it into a plug ;p |
| [17:03:05] | nasa: | it installed mysql 5 |
| [17:03:31] | seth|laptop: | nasa, did you do a db dump before you upgraded, if so re-import your dump file into the new mysql |
| [17:04:04] | seth|laptop: | chances are if it installed a new version, mythconverg, may not even exist anymore |
| [17:04:33] | metalac: | hey guys |
| [17:04:38] | nasa: | seth|laptop — I didn't do a db dump (didn't matter anyways, I am moving into a new place and it's a couple months out of date and for another place) |
| [17:05:15] | metalac: | i recompiled my system with gcc4.1 and now i get an error that says "videooutputxv: xvmctex: init failed" but only when i watch stuff of the firewire, my pvr150 works fine |
| [17:05:18] | metalac: | any clue what's up? |
| [17:05:42] | metalac: | btw i'm NOT using XvMC |
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| [17:08:17] | jammyd: | metalac: that error pops up all over google, have you tried looking there? |
| [17:08:58] | metalac: | yeah |
| [17:09:29] | metalac: | apparently it's harmless, but i'm not sure then why my mythfrontend crashes |
| [17:10:16] | seth|laptop: | nasa, check out this part of the mythtv docs, maybe it will help. You may also need to re-install mythtv, so it picks up the new QT stuff, as well as the MYSQL stuff, but I would follow this page, and see if you can get it started with what youhave now: http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html |
| [17:10:57] | metalac: | the only thing bellow that message is VideoOutputXv: XvmcAdaptor name: 'Nv17 Video Texture' |
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| [17:11:15] | metalac: | X Error: BadMatch (invalid paramater attributes) 8 .... |
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| [17:13:50] | metalac: | ok so i increased debuggin, how does this sound: 'mythfrontend: ../../../src/mesa/glapi/glapi.c:341 _glapi_get_dispatch: assertion api !=((void*)0) failed. |
| [17:14:17] | Kelerion: | metalac, running XGL? |
| [17:14:31] | nasa: | seth|laptop — Yeah, I was following that |
| [17:14:41] | metalac: | Kelerion: not that i know off |
| [17:14:46] | Kelerion: | kk |
| [17:15:21] | Kelerion: | try turning off opengl in your FE.. see what happens |
| [17:15:40] | metalac: | Kelerion: i did |
| [17:16:05] | metalac: | Kelerion: it's strange cuz it only happens when i try to run something off firewire input |
| [17:16:30] | Kelerion: | no idea then.. dont use firewire here |
| [17:17:31] | Juski: | O M $Deity... can't believe I've just read on wikipedia that some people said the film 'Gremlins' had racist connotations |
| [17:17:35] | metalac: | yeah no clue what the corelation might be |
| [17:19:17] | Kelerion: | Juski, yeah, because in real life us westerners have gremlins as well! sterotyping those eastern folks... bad us |
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| [17:20:55] | orogor: | anyone can help me to troubleshoot the mythtv stuff ? |
| [17:21:20] | orogor: | backend not responding is quite annoying fpor instance |
| [17:22:29] | kormoc: | Juski, don't you know? gremlins are the evil tribes men of aferica who will eat us if we give them food! |
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| [17:23:30] | seth|laptop: | wish I could help orogor, but it seems like the versions are different. Are the front and backend different boxes? |
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| [17:24:34] | orogor: | same box |
| [17:24:41] | orogor: | installed via portage on gentoo |
| [17:25:04] | kormoc: | and the issue is? |
| [17:25:19] | orogor: | backend randomely stop to respond |
| [17:25:26] | orogor: | and i cant fill the epg |
| [17:25:27] | kormoc: | and the logs say? |
| [17:25:35] | orogor: | nothing special |
| [17:25:58] | orogor: | backend log doesn t move and frontend complain about a quick timeout |
| [17:25:59] | kormoc: | and you increased the log verbosity? |
| [17:26:04] | orogor: | nope |
| [17:26:44] | kormoc: | you might want to try that |
| [17:27:09] | seth|laptop: | were there any strange messages when you last ran 'mythfilldatabase' ? |
| [17:27:30] | jeffmeden: | are there any good guides that review quality of tv tuners or tv-out video cards? |
| [17:27:49] | orogor: | seth|laptop, i have some right now |
| [17:28:22] | orogor: | 2006-10–02 19:28:07.182 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost |
| [17:28:22] | orogor: | config file /home/orogor/.mythtv/france xmltv hertz.xmltv does not exist, run me with --configure |
| [17:29:00] | kormoc: | and did you run it with configure? |
| [17:29:15] | orogor: | what , xmltv ? |
| [17:29:19] | seth|laptop: | taht would be why, it can't find the french xmltv id numbers for your program guide, run it with — configure |
| [17:29:28] | seth|laptop: | ack, too slow, ;-) |
| [17:29:39] | kormoc: | whatever you ran that said run me with --configure |
| [17:29:39] | seth|laptop: | mythfilldatabase --configure |
| [17:30:11] | orogor: | illegal option |
| [17:30:46] | nasa: | is it still true that mythtv won't run on qt4? |
| [17:30:55] | seth|laptop: | hertz.xmltv needs to be created from something, I am in US, so I get my stuff from zap2itlabs, there must be a french equivalent |
| [17:31:00] | kormoc: | nasa, yes, and will be for a long time |
| [17:31:11] | kormoc: | xmltv likely needs to be configured |
| [17:31:23] | seth|laptop: | yeah try xmltv --configure |
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| [17:32:32] | orogor: | seth|laptop, doesn t exist , all i have is grabbers for xmltv |
| [17:32:44] | kormoc: | run one of them with --configure? |
| [17:33:33] | orogor: | isn t that what mythtv is doing when configuring inputs ? |
| [17:33:46] | kormoc: | nope |
| [17:33:52] | jeffmeden: | if a tv tuner has mpeg compression onboard that means i can ignore sound card requirements right? |
| [17:34:05] | kormoc: | it's only configuring itself, not all the other things in the chain |
| [17:34:09] | kormoc: | jeffmeden, for recording, aye |
| [17:34:14] | BULLE: | jeffmeden: for recording yes |
| [17:34:15] | kormoc: | for playback, nope |
| [17:35:11] | jeffmeden: | naturally |
| [17:35:51] | jeffmeden: | i have relatively weak cable signal, is there any list of how well certain tuner cards work under these situations? |
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| [17:37:15] | jeffmeden: | or can you generally expect a more expensive card to work better |
| [17:37:50] | fryfrog: | jeffmeden: I have the same problem, but in my area the "analog" channels are also broadcast in digital |
| [17:37:54] | orogor: | for hertzian tuner cards nope |
| [17:37:55] | kormoc: | it's more about how much interference your computer gives the card at that point. |
| [17:38:07] | fryfrog: | jeffmeden: so instead of using my mpeg2 card as a tuner, i'll hook up 2x cable boxes via svideo |
| [17:38:37] | kormoc: | if you can keep the interference down, you should get a cleaner signal to record |
| [17:38:50] | jeffmeden: | fryfrog: i'd rather not tie up two digital cable boxes |
| [17:39:01] | ** hjohnson runs around like a chicken with his head cut off. ** | |
| [17:39:10] | jeffmeden: | kormoc: explain |
| [17:39:50] | jeffmeden: | what am i gonna do, open up the computer and tell it to stfu |
| [17:39:51] | kormoc: | jeffmeden, well, the tuners on most of those cards are very similar, but the hardest part in a internal tuner is dealing with all the interference the rest of the computer gives off |
| [17:40:12] | jeffmeden: | so is it worth it to buy a USB2 external tuner? |
| [17:40:35] | kormoc: | jeffmeden, no, but moving cards around can give better results, as well as less cards == better, and turning on such features as spread spectrum in the bios, which cuts down the interference in exchange for some decrease in performance |
| [17:41:24] | seth|laptop: | orogor check this out, it might help – http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tv.xmltv.announce/88 |
| [17:42:06] | seth|laptop: | looks like you may need to emerge Tcl/Tk libraries, but its an option |
| [17:42:09] | fryfrog: | so *that* is what spread spectrum is! |
| [17:42:43] | seth|laptop: | i would read more, but its in french, and I only do english, german, greek, and russian, appologies, heh |
| [17:43:06] | jeffmeden: | its that setting i always turn off and mutter 'F- the airwaves' |
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| [17:45:25] | jlefler: | Anyone using the PVR-150 MCE in their box? |
| [17:45:32] | seth|laptop: | I am |
| [17:45:45] | jlefler: | seth|laptop: How does it work for you? (asking because CC has it on sale for $59) |
| [17:46:48] | seth|laptop: | works great, I have used it with OTA, dish network, and now comcast digital cable |
| [17:47:15] | jlefler: | seth|laptop: Thanks. I need a hardware-encoding card, so I guess I'll be picking one up. |
| [17:47:44] | seth|laptop: | my only complaint was the remote control range, I have a very big living room, and it wouldn't quite go the distance to my recliner, heh |
| [17:47:55] | jlefler: | LOL. That shouldn't be too much of an issue for me |
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| [17:48:34] | seth|laptop: | best of all, it just worked, myth knew exactly what to do with it, or rather ivtv |
| [17:48:38] | jlefler: | very nice |
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| [17:49:54] | ** Juski renders another mytharchive DVD intro :) ** | |
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| [17:50:30] | seth|laptop: | hey, Juski, does mytharchive reduce the size of the file before it burns it to dvd? |
| [17:50:56] | Juski: | wow. 'best' quality setting with the top level of supersampling is gonna take 4 minutes for a 4 second clip. damn |
| [17:51:12] | Juski: | seth|laptop: it _can_ do that if the files you select are too big for the disc |
| [17:51:37] | seth|laptop: | orogor, here is another link that may help you – http://gentoo-wiki.com/XMLTV |
| [17:51:53] | Juski: | it's the #1 reason to not go with a low powered backend machine too |
| [17:52:08] | seth|laptop: | well the average boohbah show for my daughter off of PBS-HD is 3.5GB |
| [17:52:31] | fryfrog: | wow |
| [17:52:31] | Juski: | seth|laptop: transcoding HDTV to SDTV.. YMMV |
| [17:52:43] | fryfrog: | Your Method May Vary? |
| [17:52:44] | seth|laptop: | I can't see burning 1 show to a disk, that could get expensive |
| [17:52:52] | Juski: | mileage may vary |
| [17:52:55] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [17:53:04] | Juski: | or, you may get far, or nowhere at all |
| [17:53:12] | fryfrog: | i should mess around with transcoding, but i had such a bad experience with it the first time :) |
| [17:53:23] | Juski: | it certainly won't be HD for long |
| [17:54:11] | Juski: | seth|laptop: just buy her a 50TB array for her next birthday :-P |
| [17:54:17] | seth|laptop: | well as long as there is picture and sound, my 11month old won't care , hehe |
| [17:54:20] | hjohnson: | seth|laptop: yeah, I'd downsample.. and given that it's a kids show, it should compress fairly well. |
| [17:54:27] | hjohnson: | seth|laptop: is it animated or live-action? |
| [17:54:34] | seth|laptop: | live action |
| [17:54:35] | hjohnson: | (animation is a prime candidate for massive amounts of ocmpression) |
| [17:54:36] | Juski: | computer-animated/live |
| [17:54:45] | hjohnson: | ahh |
| [17:54:45] | seth|laptop: | yeah thats it |
| [17:54:52] | Juski: | think teletubbies on MORE acid |
| [17:54:58] | seth|laptop: | exactly |
| [17:55:08] | hjohnson: | still, you should be able to downsample it to SDTV and not lose a lot.. the kid will never notice. :P |
| [17:55:25] | seth|laptop: | that sounds good, but how is that accomplished? |
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| [17:55:43] | seth|laptop: | does mythburn do that or is it a seperate processs |
| [17:55:44] | Kelerion: | anyone know if radiotimes feed is broken? |
| [17:56:21] | Juski: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/videos/newintro.mpg |
| [17:56:26] | Juski: | Kelerion: worky AFAIK |
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| [17:57:00] | Pryon: | Argh. Forget my earlier "go transcode!" attitude. I cut out the commercials and new demuxing is a nightmare. 21 minutes of audio into the bitbucket for some reason. |
| [17:57:10] | Pryon: | s/new/now/ |
| [17:57:44] | Pryon: | I hope I'm just not running the program correctly. |
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| [17:59:27] | Kelerion: | Juski, I seem to be down to 2 days EPG! lol |
| [18:02:34] | Juski: | fuck. 'discovery channel' has turned into QuizCall |
| [18:02:48] | Juski: | Kelerion: 11 days here |
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| [18:03:17] | Kelerion: | you using RT too? |
| [18:03:30] | Juski: | you don't get > 7 days with EIT ;) |
| [18:03:38] | Kelerion: | ahh.. true |
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| [18:04:16] | Juski: | although there's an encrippled TV guide broadcast on Freeview for people who want a 14-day guide |
| [18:04:41] | Kelerion: | well... lotta use that is.. lol |
| [18:05:34] | fryfrog: | mmm, Heroes tonight! |
| [18:05:34] | seth|laptop: | anyone here use dvb-s from a sattelite? |
| [18:05:56] | seth|laptop: | only good thing on as well |
| [18:06:08] | kormoc: | Evensence is on Conan tonight |
| [18:06:20] | Kelerion: | this is what I'm getting: http://pastebin.ca/188959 |
| [18:06:36] | Kelerion: | and I upgraded xmltv as soon as I saw it this morning... latest cvs |
| [18:06:41] | ** seth|laptop fires up mythweb ** | |
| [18:07:11] | Juski: | Kelerion: something is wong... Source configured with no grabber. Nothing to do |
| [18:07:24] | Kelerion: | Evenscence? Evanescence? |
| [18:07:44] | seth|laptop: | that was easy |
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| [18:07:59] | Kelerion: | urgh |
| [18:08:04] | Kelerion: | I bet I know whats doing that |
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| [18:09:29] | ** Kelerion tries it again ** | |
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| [18:10:40] | Kelerion: | hang on a second.. my secord sourceid is my cctv one... and I set that to not have an EPG.. so why's it put "/bin/true" in the grabber field on the DB? |
| [18:10:47] | Juski: | bollocks. my zapper script has a fault I'd never noticed before. trailing zeros throw it off course. time for a new regex |
| [18:10:53] | Juski: | after tea :) |
| [18:11:19] | orogor: | haaa, seph leaved |
| [18:11:39] | orogor: | i have a slightly better situation with xmltv , but still nothing shows up in epg |
| [18:14:05] | Juski: | oh man WTF is this script doing? |
| [18:14:29] | Kelerion: | no no... the "Source configured with no grabber. Nothing to do." is right |
| [18:14:47] | Kelerion: | so it should just be updating the EPG for sourceid=1 |
| [18:14:53] | orogor: | ... since no french peoples since last time ? |
| [18:15:08] | Juski: | Kelerion: you still running mythfilldb as the same user as before? |
| [18:15:17] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [18:15:37] | Juski: | cos the .xmltv files mythfilldatabase uses will be in the /home/$user/.mythtv dir |
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| [18:16:12] | Kelerion: | well.. that paste was using root for it.. but it does the same for the mythtv user as well |
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| [18:16:38] | Kelerion: | that line #17 looks to be screwing stuff up |
| [18:16:57] | Juski: | I can see me having to rewrite this script tonight. can't work out WTF it's doing |
| [18:17:48] | Kelerion: | looks like it's ITV4.. gonna take that outta the lineup and see what happens |
| [18:18:05] | Juski: | Kelerion: saw a post about that on the xmltv ML today |
| [18:18:18] | Juski: | downgrade your xmltv I think |
| [18:18:32] | Juski: | but use the channel_ids file from the cvs |
| [18:19:00] | Juski: | only positive reply I saw on the XMLTV ML was 'works in windows fine here :P' |
| [18:19:02] | Kelerion: | ok. .thanks.. I'll give it a shot |
| [18:19:08] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [18:19:18] | Juski: | why did you upgradify it? |
| [18:19:50] | Juski: | what the? my script works on all channels except 250 |
| [18:19:52] | orogor: | that looks ok to you : ? http://rafb.net/paste/results/xBjD0D72.html |
| [18:20:12] | Kelerion: | I upgraded xmltv *after* I noticed that error this morning |
| [18:20:27] | Juski: | wait... wait... any channel ending in '50'.. haha! |
| [18:20:34] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [18:20:45] | Juski: | I need a new delimiter in my chans.txt file, and a new regex |
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| [18:21:12] | orogor: | ? |
| [18:21:19] | seth|laptop: | orogor, looks like it ran ok |
| [18:21:20] | Juski: | or maybe just something to not use the channel prefix & not strip it out |
| [18:21:26] | orogor: | mt epg guide is still empty right after that update |
| [18:21:31] | seth|laptop: | wow |
| [18:22:12] | Kelerion: | okies... food time... bbl :) |
| [18:22:30] | Kelerion: | xmltv |
| [18:22:35] | Juski: | yeah I'm doing an awk on the prefix number... stupid idiot! |
| [18:22:38] | Kelerion: | oops |
| [18:23:12] | Juski: | taken more than 6 months for that bug to rear its head |
| [18:23:23] | Juski: | I'm such a fluke-r |
| [18:24:14] | orogor: | seth|laptop, looking directly in the DB , it doesn t seems it s filled |
| [18:24:38] | Havelock: | hello, my remote control does not work :-( irw works fine. (v .20, ivtv) |
| [18:24:44] | seth|laptop: | well, I see that now, Updated Channels 0 its as though your xmltv file is empty |
| [18:24:54] | Havelock: | Do i need a special setup-switch? |
| [18:25:18] | seth|laptop: | havelock, you need a lirc.conf file |
| [18:25:31] | orogor: | /home/orogor/.mythtv/.xmltv is empty |
| [18:25:31] | Havelock: | i have a lirc.conf |
| [18:25:31] | seth|laptop: | then restart lircd |
| [18:26:03] | seth|laptop: | orogor, did you try the pytvgrab.pl listed on gentoo-mythtv wiki? |
| [18:26:59] | Havelock: | seth|laptop: lircrc exists in ~/.mythtv |
| [18:27:23] | seth|laptop: | Havelock, does it have your remote codes in it? |
| [18:27:41] | seth|laptop: | orogor check here – http://gentoo-wiki.com/XMLTV |
| [18:27:54] | Havelock: | seth|laptop: as i said before: irw works fine and reads my remote-keys |
| [18:29:02] | seth|laptop: | Havelock, have you tried to go into mythtv and change the key setup, to see if your remote shows up, when a key is pressed? |
| [18:29:09] | seth|laptop: | I had to cvhange some of mine |
| [18:29:48] | Havelock: | seth|laptop: Where do i find the key-setup? In the frontend config? |
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| [18:30:27] | seth|laptop: | havelock, yes, under utilities and set up menu, I am not sure exactly where, but I am thinking in the "genral" submenu |
| [18:30:56] | seth|laptop: | ack datacenter alarm, bbiab |
| [18:31:02] | Havelock: | seth|laptop: ok, i will search there :-) |
| [18:34:39] | Havelock: | seth|laptop: There is only a field called "Keypress Application", but it seems to be for an external application? |
| [18:34:47] | metalac: | ok so i have one question |
| [18:35:28] | metalac: | i set libmpeg2 in mythfrontend, but it turns out that i didn't even have libmpeg2 package installed, yet myth has been working fine for about 3 months :) |
| [18:35:45] | metalac: | does mythtv provide it's own version of libmpeg2 ?? |
| [18:36:01] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: yes |
| [18:36:26] | GreyFoxx: | libmythmpeg2 is how it's named |
| [18:36:43] | metalac: | oh ok |
| [18:37:49] | orogor: | seth|laptop, doesnt seems to work out |
| [18:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | I should add line to the frontend and backend output to say what show a frontend is watching |
| [18:39:38] | seth|laptop: | I'm out of ideas orogor, sorry, I wish I knew more about non-US xmltv, but I do not, appologies |
| [18:40:30] | seth|laptop: | Havelock, I am not in from]nt of the mythbox right now, but I know in one of the utilities submenus, there is a place to do key changes. Not sure off the top of my head, been a while since I've done it. |
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| [18:42:42] | orogor: | seth|laptop, it seems the version i use is good in fact |
| [18:42:55] | Havelock: | seth|laptop: Ok, i will continue searching... |
| [18:43:28] | orogor: | i means it contain the fixes for the bug solved in the ebuild you pointed me , plus it actually compiles |
| [18:45:19] | seth|laptop: | and when you ran the script, you outputted to a channels.conf file? |
| [18:47:05] | orogor: | i just noticed the xmltv ebuild didnt copued any grabber to mt system |
| [18:47:23] | kormoc: | did you set the proper use flags? |
| [18:47:33] | orogor: | there s none to set for fr |
| [18:47:49] | orogor: | haa there is ! |
| [18:47:54] | ** Juski goes off to find a bash script substring thing ** | |
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| [18:48:39] | quantum: | anybody out there |
| [18:48:54] | quantum: | anyone at all |
| [18:48:58] | kormoc: | just nod if you can hear me, is there anyone at home? |
| [18:49:14] | quantum: | has anyone tried the dvd rip on myth |
| [18:49:22] | kormoc: | nope, you're the first one |
| [18:49:39] | kormoc: | Juski, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/refcards.html#AEN19003 |
| [18:49:44] | quantum: | well I was wondering why it doesn't rip the audio track correclty, I only get music no voices |
| [18:50:04] | Juski: | kormoc: cheers, but I found what I need already thanks :) |
| [18:50:24] | quantum: | there is an en ac3 2ch and an enac6 channel |
| [18:50:32] | seth|laptop: | are you putting an X in the box next to encode AC3 audio? |
| [18:50:36] | quantum: | I tried them both with and without the ac3 audio, |
| [18:51:00] | seth|laptop: | what language are you ripping in? |
| [18:51:14] | quantum: | If I just use the myth dvd player it seems to work o.k. I am ripping in english |
| [18:51:35] | seth|laptop: | and you are leaving the defaul ac3en6ch |
| [18:51:56] | Juski: | wheyhey.. fixed my channel change script |
| [18:52:20] | quantum: | yeah, I leave it, default, the music seems fine bu the voices are nonexistant or very very quit |
| [18:53:23] | quantum: | wonder if it is skipping the center channel or something funky like that |
| [18:53:28] | seth|laptop: | that is probably because you are playing them through 2 speakers only, no 5.1 I had the same issue, but now I run everything through my A/V receiver |
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| [18:54:09] | quantum: | seth|laptop, yeah I just have two speakers, but everything else plays o.k. or if I use the dvd player option in myth it will play it directly o.k. ususally |
| [18:55:01] | seth|laptop: | try using xine to play back your ripped dvd's, and make sure the audio is set to 2 channel, I am pretty sure that is the default |
| [18:55:05] | quantum: | is there any way around the problem, I can't imagine a lot of people don't have the issue |
| [18:55:34] | seth|laptop: | change you video playback line from internal or mplayer to 'xine -pfhq --no-splash' |
| [18:55:38] | kormoc: | most people just watch in 2 speaker mode |
| [18:56:14] | seth|laptop: | that is what I did to get around it, before 5.1 sound card |
| [18:56:20] | quantum: | o.k. I'll give that a shot thanks |
| [18:56:22] | orogor: | ... still no french here ? |
| [18:56:33] | orogor: | a freebox owner ? |
| [18:57:26] | metalac: | so i'm playing HD now and cpu usage is 55% for mythfrontend and 45% for X, and sound is fairly good but the picture stutters, why is X usage so high? |
| [18:57:41] | seth|laptop: | not using XvMC? |
| [18:57:48] | seth|laptop: | no nvidia card? |
| [18:58:01] | orogor: | it s good or bad to use it ? |
| [18:58:04] | kormoc: | or lack of XV |
| [18:58:14] | ** BULLE wants XvMC support for mpeg4 AVC ** | |
| [18:58:17] | metalac: | seth|laptop: i'm trying not to use XvMC |
| [18:58:31] | seth|laptop: | so how is XV enabled? |
| [18:58:31] | orogor: | i have xvmc , but sometime it does more harm than good it seems |
| [18:58:40] | kormoc: | XV is enabled by the driver |
| [18:58:40] | seth|laptop: | I use XvMC to get rid of the stuttering |
| [18:58:58] | metalac: | seth|laptop: my sound is just horrible with xvmc |
| [18:59:04] | seth|laptop: | is that added to XF86Config or xorg.conf? |
| [18:59:14] | metalac: | sounds like sheep |
| [18:59:23] | orogor: | seth|laptop, still same stuff here |
| [18:59:33] | metalac: | what needs to be added to xorg.conf? |
| [18:59:35] | seth|laptop: | well I tried orogor, sorry |
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| [18:59:48] | kormoc: | seth|laptop, no, it's just enabled by the driver or not |
| [18:59:57] | seth|laptop: | I don't know I was trying to figure out how to enable XV, was just asking if thats where you do it |
| [19:00:09] | seth|laptop: | driver = ? |
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| [19:00:32] | kormoc: | using the nvidia driver will enable XV |
| [19:00:40] | metalac: | that's what i thought too |
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| [19:00:51] | kormoc: | using a driver that has XV support is how you get XV... |
| [19:01:32] | Juski: | !seen laga |
| [19:01:32] | MythLogBot: | laga was last seen 1 day 20 hours 2 minutes 21 seconds ago |
| [19:01:35] | metalac: | so with xvmc enabled X is not using any cpu but mythfrontend is using 90+% of cpu |
| [19:02:04] | fryfrog: | metalac: isn't your OSD in greyscale if you use xvmc? |
| [19:02:22] | metalac: | fryfrog: yea |
| [19:02:46] | fryfrog: | lame :P |
| [19:03:21] | metalac: | ahaha i know |
| [19:03:27] | metalac: | thats why i'm trying to avoid xvmc |
| [19:03:43] | Juski: | fryfrog, metalac – there's a hack for that, see the wiki |
| [19:03:59] | fryfrog: | ah, i think i recall something of that |
| [19:04:03] | metalac: | Juski: not for nvidia 6* or 7* |
| [19:04:11] | fryfrog: | but i thought it was for 0.19 or something |
| [19:04:24] | fryfrog: | I'm using a 6200 in one nvidia box, Ti 4200 in the other |
| [19:04:32] | fryfrog: | so i guess i can use it on one, but not the other :( |
| [19:04:41] | Juski: | fryfrog: it's still in 0.20 |
| [19:05:00] | Juski: | grey OSD isn't so bad til you try editing, then it gets a shade confusing |
| [19:05:17] | metalac: | god damn i'm soooo close |
| [19:05:42] | metalac: | my HD looks nice and it sounds good, but i'm missing every 30th frame or so |
| [19:06:46] | metalac: | which is faster libmpeg2 or standard? |
| [19:07:32] | Juski: | metalac: try em & see |
| [19:07:49] | metalac: | that's what i'm doing now |
| [19:07:57] | metalac: | any clue which deinterlacing method is fastest? |
| [19:08:07] | metalac: | if not i'm gona spend a long time trying stuff here :) |
| [19:08:46] | Juski: | kernel deint always looks best.. dunno about cpu time |
| [19:08:58] | Juski: | unless you're using xvmc in which case, bob would be best |
| [19:09:26] | Juski: | holy hole in a doughnut! eep! http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/115007 freeview on a budget! |
| [19:11:31] | fryfrog: | If one is *recording* HD and playing back in 720p over DVI, do you need deinterlace? |
| [19:11:41] | Juski: | if it's 1080i, yes |
| [19:11:50] | fryfrog: | When I am a bit close or paying attention, I can see kind of an odd ... |
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| [19:11:52] | fryfrog: | effect? |
| [19:12:03] | fryfrog: | like lines in people or objects during motion |
| [19:12:05] | Juski: | evenin' stuarta |
| [19:12:13] | Juski: | fryfrog: sounds like you need to deinterlace then |
| [19:12:20] | stuarta: | evening Juski, et al |
| [19:12:22] | fryfrog: | not like the mpeg compression artifacts from motion, they are all *lines* |
| [19:12:24] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [19:12:50] | Juski: | fryfrog: a classic case infact :) |
| [19:12:53] | fryfrog: | so if the content *isn't* interlaced, does it still get deinterlaced by mith? |
| [19:12:56] | fryfrog: | myth? |
| [19:13:02] | fryfrog: | or does it not matter much? |
| [19:13:31] | Juski: | fryfrog: I think since 0.20 it autodetects & deals with accordingly |
| [19:13:56] | Juski: | heh. I seem to have my brain plugged in today |
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| [19:14:31] | metalac: | so xvmc's buggines is it myth's fault or nvidia's? |
| [19:14:56] | Juski: | stuarta: remember a while ago when I was fooing about making a channel changer script? turned out that it didn't like channels ending in '50' because the prefix I'd used was '50' in mythtv and I was awking the 50 out. oops |
| [19:15:07] | Juski: | metalac: nvidia's fault, always |
| [19:15:19] | metalac: | ahahah ;) |
| [19:15:27] | stuarta: | doh! |
| [19:15:28] | metalac: | so with never drivers we might see improvements? |
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| [19:15:43] | Juski: | metalac: or it might worsen.. you never know with nvidia |
| [19:15:50] | metalac: | true |
| [19:16:01] | metalac: | hey does overscaning use a lot of CPU power? |
| [19:16:31] | Juski: | shouldn't use much, but if myth is doing the scaling.... |
| [19:16:46] | kormoc: | esp on hd |
| [19:17:04] | metalac: | what do you mean by scaling? |
| [19:17:13] | kormoc: | resizing the video for output |
| [19:17:23] | kormoc: | making it larger or smaller |
| [19:17:32] | metalac: | well i'm running my GUI at 1920x1080 |
| [19:17:32] | stuarta: | ie. overscanning |
| [19:17:36] | Juski: | like if you checked the 'use GUI size for TV playback' box |
| [19:18:22] | Juski: | and the gui size happens to be different to a) the res the video is and b) your X resolution |
| [19:18:44] | metalac: | it is cuz max my input can be is 1080i, but i run myth at 1080p |
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| [19:19:11] | metalac: | i turned it off lets see what happens |
| [19:19:15] | fryfrog: | does anyone setup myth to switch resoultions around? |
| [19:19:18] | kormoc: | forget about i/p when talking about res, it's not gonna scale to make a interlaced video progressive |
| [19:19:45] | fryfrog: | The problem I have is that "720p" the video mode is *way* overscanned and makes using myth or anything else really annoying |
| [19:19:46] | Juski: | yeh but it'll scale a 704x576 picture to fit 720x576, say |
| [19:19:58] | metalac: | hey that fixed it :) |
| [19:20:04] | Kelerion: | back.. kinda |
| [19:20:07] | fryfrog: | and I'm not sure how to get it to fit on screen nicely |
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| [19:20:18] | fryfrog: | ie, what one might do with the controls on the front of their monitor |
| [19:20:25] | metalac: | i'm geting 90+% cpu usage still but it's looking nice |
| [19:20:37] | Juski: | fryfrog... keep the 'use gui size for tv playback' box unchecked and adjust the GUI size to fit the TV |
| [19:20:38] | Kelerion: | ok..so I added a slave backend to my setup here... and I first tested watching TV.. and trying PiP... woohoo!! it works! |
| [19:20:49] | fryfrog: | that is what i've done |
| [19:20:56] | fryfrog: | it was a pain in the ass though :) |
| [19:21:14] | Juski: | yeh I think I heard somebody was working something out about that |
| [19:21:15] | fryfrog: | also, the bg of my wm causes the screen to be bright on the edges |
| [19:21:20] | fryfrog: | have to set the bg to black |
| [19:21:32] | fryfrog: | and even then, the stupid slit on fluxbox makes a bit of haze on the bottom |
| [19:21:33] | Kelerion: | but only on live tv... am I missing something? shouldn't it also work whle I'm watching a recording? I spend 95% of my time watching recordings (as I suspect most myth users do!) |
| [19:21:45] | fryfrog: | I think I need to find the "perfect" modeline for X, but that is not easy :( |
| [19:21:59] | Juski: | Kelerion: no PiP doesn't work for watching recordings |
| [19:22:14] | Kelerion: | that sounds a bit wierd for a PVR |
| [19:22:21] | Juski: | somebody did a patch for PiP & PaP IIRC, but I bet it blows |
| [19:22:22] | metalac: | so the problem with HD now is that there is some lines on top of screen that are screwing up the whole picture |
| [19:22:31] | Kelerion: | PaP? |
| [19:22:39] | Juski: | picture and picture – i.e. 2 side by side |
| [19:22:44] | Kelerion: | ahh |
| [19:22:52] | fryfrog: | metalac: like, static? |
| [19:22:56] | Juski: | RTFML ;) |
| [19:23:16] | fryfrog: | Kelerion: why would you *use* PiP if you are watching a recording? |
| [19:23:17] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [19:23:27] | fryfrog: | i mean, PiP is so you can watch 2 shows "live" w/o missing something |
| [19:23:30] | kormoc: | fryfrog, to watch two boring shows at once! |
| [19:23:32] | fryfrog: | but if they are recordings... |
| [19:23:32] | Kelerion: | because... my slave backend is for my CCTV cameras :P |
| [19:23:35] | Juski: | I've never seen PiP as anything other than a gimmick for people with short attention spans |
| [19:23:38] | fryfrog: | *ohhh* |
| [19:24:01] | fryfrog: | do you record it with my 24/7? |
| [19:24:12] | Kelerion: | huh? |
| [19:24:15] | metalac: | fryfrog: no just some lines like it's not aligning right or something |
| [19:24:21] | kormoc: | fryfrog, of course he does, till it autoexpires! |
| [19:24:22] | Zider: | I use PiP on my tv to see if a show has started or not while I play NES.. |
| [19:24:55] | Juski: | Zider: how do you stand the lag? or do you use your TV's PiP ? |
| [19:25:05] | Zider: | Juski: the tvs |
| [19:25:11] | Juski: | thought as much ;) |
| [19:25:25] | fryfrog: | thats a good idea :) |
| [19:25:39] | fryfrog: | speaking of nes, i need to get that working with myth |
| [19:25:58] | Kelerion: | I'd have preferred to have had something where the second source was just a streamed image from my zoneminder box.. but didn't think that'd be doable |
| [19:25:59] | Juski: | good excuse for when you get fragged I suppose.. "I was seeing if CSI had started yet..." |
| [19:26:04] | metalac: | i'm still confused why the X usage is sooo HUGE |
| [19:26:05] | Zider: | it has 3 scarts, with svhs/composite on each, and is slow on switching.. so it takes forevre to flip thru it back to the NES.. ;) |
| [19:26:25] | metalac: | it's like 30% minimum no matter what I play, SD or HD |
| [19:26:27] | Zider: | fryfrog: I can recommend mednafen |
| [19:27:14] | Juski: | Kelerion: I dont think it'd be too hard to write an extension for that, in theory – but everything's THAT sodding easy in _theory_ |
| [19:27:34] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [19:27:43] | kormoc: | metalac, welcome to the world of X |
| [19:28:47] | Kelerion: | in *theorry* you could just have a second source... give it a URL to get a stream from.. and your done... presuming the stream was in a format mythtv could actually play |
| [19:29:18] | fryfrog: | anyone know anything about DS emu? |
| [19:29:26] | fryfrog: | doesn't seem possible in linux? |
| [19:29:32] | fryfrog: | at this time, i mean |
| [19:30:12] | Juski: | Kelerion & folks: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . ding;#217571 |
| [19:30:31] | metalac: | kormoc: it's just insane that x is using more than mythfrontend |
| [19:30:47] | kormoc: | metalac, not really, X is doing all the work |
| [19:30:51] | Zider: | fryfrog: DS? |
| [19:30:57] | Kelerion: | okies.. another one... my slave backend has two cctv cameras... on my FE I press V to bring up PiP and in displays the first camera.. how can I switch to the 3rd source (second camera) |
| [19:31:03] | metalac: | kormoc: so xv is part of X? |
| [19:31:16] | kormoc: | metalac, it's provided by the video driver to X, aye |
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| [19:31:44] | Juski: | Kelerion: B toggles the window focus (lets you change channels on the PiP window) |
| [19:31:56] | metalac: | kormoc: for some reason i thought that mythtv does all the work and pushes it to X for display |
| [19:32:04] | kormoc: | nope |
| [19:32:14] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: Not unless your driver doesn't have xv support |
| [19:32:20] | fryfrog: | Zider: DS as in Nintendo DS :) |
| [19:32:33] | fryfrog: | Kelerion: swap, then press Y? |
| [19:32:42] | Zider: | fryfrog: ahh, yes.. isn't that just a GBA with extra screen? |
| [19:32:53] | fryfrog: | Zider: and cpu :) |
| [19:32:59] | kormoc: | Zider, a touch screen! |
| [19:33:08] | metalac: | on mailing list people are able to play HD with less of cpu than i have, so no clue what i'm doing wrong |
| [19:33:09] | fryfrog: | Zider: I *think* I read that some guy who develops a GBA emu is adding support for DS |
| [19:34:17] | Zider: | kormoc: really? must've missed that |
| [19:34:19] | Kelerion: | so press B to toggle focus to the PiP window.. then press Y to switch the input within *that* window? |
| [19:34:30] | Juski: | Kelerion: that'd be about the size of it |
| [19:34:37] | Kelerion: | ahh ok.. thanks |
| [19:34:59] | metalac: | to watch SD i'm using over 50% of my cpu, 30% for X and 20% for mythfrontend, something is definitely wrong here |
| [19:35:08] | Kelerion: | will give it a go in a bit... just remembered I need to svn up my slave backend now.. lol |
| [19:35:19] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: from an xterm what do you get from "xvinfo" ? |
| [19:35:29] | Juski: | metalac: you definitely have 'nvidia' not 'nv' in your xorg.conf, right? ;) |
| [19:35:31] | Zider: | fryfrog: what's the name of that emu? |
| [19:35:40] | metalac: | Juski: yeah nvidia is right |
| [19:35:44] | fryfrog: | Zider: unfortunatly, i was just randomly googling around |
| [19:35:44] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: xvinfo not found |
| [19:35:48] | fryfrog: | I don't recall :( |
| [19:35:51] | Zider: | fryfrog: ah |
| [19:36:23] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: let me emerge it |
| [19:36:25] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: Are you running it as the same user that is running X ? |
| [19:36:35] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: no i sshd in as root |
| [19:36:37] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: seen as you're here.. how did you get on with trying out the screen resizing gadget? I remember you asked me to describe how it goes in XBMC... I can still do you a video for that |
| [19:36:46] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: It's not normally in root's path |
| [19:36:52] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: run it as the same user and X |
| [19:36:54] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: it's not installed |
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| [19:37:08] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: Weird' I've never not seen it included with X itself |
| [19:37:11] | kormoc: | yeah, not installed by default on gentoo |
| [19:37:12] | metalac: | do you want me running X at the same time? |
| [19:37:20] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: I would LOVE to see a video of that |
| [19:37:27] | Honk^gone: | GreyFoxx: modular X :) |
| [19:37:30] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: yes :) |
| [19:37:37] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, it's split off as of xorg 6.9+ and thus isn't defaulted by gentoo's install |
| [19:37:43] | GreyFoxx: | bah |
| [19:37:52] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: unable to open display |
| [19:37:55] | GreyFoxx: | Hey, lets not include vi or telnet by default either |
| [19:37:56] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:37:57] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: I'll put it on my to-do list |
| [19:38:04] | kormoc: | they don't ;) |
| [19:38:06] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: X must be running, and set your DISPLAY variable to :0 |
| [19:38:16] | Honk^gone: | or just start it inside x |
| [19:38:18] | Bazil: | latest working release of myth ? |
| [19:38:20] | Zider: | fryfrog: vba? |
| [19:38:26] | kormoc: | Bazil, check the topic |
| [19:38:41] | Bazil: | ah .. my bad ;) |
| [19:38:46] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: i got a hugeee output |
| [19:38:46] | kormoc: | or the website.... |
| [19:38:51] | ** Juski goes to try mythtv 0.2, just for laughs ** | |
| [19:38:51] | GreyFoxx: | Juskmi: Sweet, thanks |
| [19:39:24] | Bazil: | its been ALONG time since workig with my myth ... isnt it so that gentoo has a emerge thing to run for updating the myth ? |
| [19:39:25] | CCFL_Man: | GreyFoxx: how is the msntv2 working as a frontend? |
| [19:39:25] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: what in particular are you looking for? |
| [19:39:25] | fryfrog: | woot, xbox pad showing up! I'd forgotten to actually enable *joystick* in kernel :) |
| [19:39:33] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: hey if I can't contribute any code I may aswell contribute somehow ;) |
| [19:39:44] | fryfrog: | Bazil: how about "emerge --sync && emerge -uDNav world"? |
| [19:39:44] | GreyFoxx: | JuskiL: |
| [19:39:46] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [19:39:49] | CCFL_Man: | fryfrog: xbox as a frontend? |
| [19:39:51] | GreyFoxx: | CCC: Works perfectly for me :) |
| [19:39:54] | fryfrog: | Zider: let me see if i can find out |
| [19:39:59] | kormoc: | Bazil, you mean emerge --sync && emerge -u mythtv? |
| [19:39:59] | CCFL_Man: | GreyFoxx: nice |
| [19:40:06] | fryfrog: | CCFL_Man: no, xbox controller plugged into linux box :) |
| [19:40:16] | fryfrog: | something to use with mythgame |
| [19:40:19] | Bazil: | kormoc .. ya . something like that |
| [19:40:23] | Juski: | works (slowly) for me, does XBox linux & mythtv. very sucky indeed |
| [19:40:30] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: Put the output on pastebin |
| [19:40:32] | Honk^gone: | Bazil: learn using gentoo if you're using it =) |
| [19:40:35] | kormoc: | Bazil, the default way to update *anything* on gentoo? |
| [19:40:47] | metalac: | it's gona be a problem, no browser on that machine :) |
| [19:41:06] | Juski: | ivor: you around? |
| [19:41:15] | CCFL_Man: | fryfrog: ahh |
| [19:41:16] | Bazil: | see .. ive had a FULLY working version so far .. but .. today it all fucked up .. just stopped working .. mythfilldatabase doesnt do anything .. so i figured it might get fixed updating it |
| [19:41:23] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: redirect the output to a file |
| [19:41:28] | GreyFoxx: | xvinfo > file.txt |
| [19:41:28] | Honk^gone: | metalac: use ssh? =) |
| [19:41:46] | CCFL_Man: | fryfrog: you think with a tsop flash removed, an LPC mod will work on an xbox? |
| [19:41:46] | metalac: | doing that now |
| [19:42:05] | fryfrog: | CCFL_Man: I don't know anything much about xbox & modchip :( |
| [19:42:30] | CCFL_Man: | ahh |
| [19:42:49] | CCFL_Man: | mine blicks red and i hope an LPC mod can bring it back to live |
| [19:42:51] | CCFL_Man: | life |
| [19:43:13] | Juski: | could anybody with Epia linux experience please look at this http://pastebin.ca/189060 and tell me if I have hardware GL working on that ? |
| [19:43:31] | ivor: | Juski: pongle |
| [19:43:49] | DigerLAP: | where can I download Knoppmyth R5C7 |
| [19:43:54] | Juski: | ivor... output of glxinfo on my minimyth box.. http://pastebin.ca/189060 |
| [19:44:26] | ivor: | looks ok. what does glxgears give you? |
| [19:44:48] | Juski: | ivor: about 400fps |
| [19:45:34] | Juski: | 410.552 FPS to be exact |
| [19:45:57] | GreyFoxx: | That's pretty low I would think |
| [19:45:59] | ivor: | looks like you're rocking then. (even if 400 is a tad slow, are you underclocking?) |
| [19:46:07] | Juski: | ivor: not AFAIK |
| [19:46:12] | ivor: | 400's about right for a cle266 |
| [19:46:19] | ivor: | I get 420 on an M9000 |
| [19:46:27] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/HU05Ya50.html |
| [19:46:34] | ivor: | about 750 on a 'Pro. |
| [19:46:39] | Juski: | ivor: big difference (narf) |
| [19:46:54] | Juski: | this is an M10k |
| [19:47:35] | ivor: | Juski: yeah but the 9000 was one of the early non-nehemia boards. |
| [19:48:02] | ivor: | anyway, it looks alright, you getting your fadey menus now? |
| [19:48:09] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: That looks about normal |
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| [19:48:15] | Juski: | heh.. and without being logged into it over vnc, almost 500fps |
| [19:48:26] | ivor: | there you go |
| [19:48:26] | Juski: | well, 475fps anyway |
| [19:49:03] | Juski: | I'll try it on my new minimyth next time I boot the ubuntu HDD up to finish the rest of the upgrade |
| [19:49:36] | Juski: | glxgears is pretty much pegging the cpu out though |
| [19:49:51] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: people with Athlon XP 2800+ get about 10% cpu usage for SD with no xvmc, and i have a sempron 2800+ and i'm geting 50%, unless people don't know how to read cpu usage output |
| [19:49:54] | FarrisG: | I'm using 0.20 and it's all running great. I"ve noticed that mythcommflag runs by default when a recording finishes. Is there an easy way to also configure it to (a) automatically remove the commercials and/or (b) automatically transcode to some MPEG-4 format (DivX/XViD)? |
| [19:50:33] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: my xp2500+ does 10–15% for SDTV, that I would expect that |
| [19:50:53] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: yeah that sounds about right, how is your X usage? |
| [19:50:58] | Juski: | FarrisG: you don't wanna auto-remove anything. auto is seldom perfect |
| [19:51:22] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: 15% when using HDTV/1080i content, almost nothing for sdtv |
| [19:51:43] | kormoc: | FarrisG, sure, you can do a user job to import the commflags to a cutlist, but it may cut out parts of shows and what not |
| [19:51:56] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: so it seems that it's X what's killing me cuz its about 30% for SD and 45–55 for HD |
| [19:51:58] | radi0head: | When I quit the "Delete Recordings" session, It doesn't bring me back to the "Manage Recordings" until I do alt-tab. It seems like the gui doesn't refresh itself until I hi alt-tab twice. Anyone experiencing this? BTW, I'm using mythtv-svn_r11312_20060927-i486–1 |
| [19:52:11] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: Yeah, sounds like something is off there |
| [19:52:16] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: any way i can benchmark it or something? |
| [19:52:19] | GreyFoxx: | I really don't know what it would be |
| [19:52:26] | GreyFoxx: | hmmmm what version of the nvidia drivers ? |
| [19:52:37] | metalac: | i just upgraded |
| [19:52:54] | metalac: | 1.0.8774 |
| [19:53:07] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: try this |
| [19:53:09] | metalac: | used to be 1.0.8762 with same problem |
| [19:53:11] | GreyFoxx: | close mythfrontend |
| [19:53:20] | GreyFoxx: | rerun it from an xterm |
| [19:53:23] | GreyFoxx: | like this |
| [19:53:33] | GreyFoxx: | mythfrontend -O UseOpenGLVSync=0 |
| [19:53:59] | orogor: | the stuff based on nextview epg seems to work fine |
| [19:54:16] | orogor: | now i se programms in the db |
| [19:54:24] | orogor: | but i can t see them in the epg |
| [19:54:27] | FarrisG: | So I guess what I mean is, can I setup a process so that once I verify/edit the commflag info, is it easy to setup a job that will automatically remove the verified breaks and then transcode? |
| [19:55:09] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: ahhhhh that's more like it ;) 14% for mythfrontend, nothing for X |
| [19:55:36] | GreyFoxx: | sounds like your driver is buggy for opengl vsync |
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| [19:55:52] | fryfrog: | nice call :) |
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| [19:56:51] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: this still doesn't help with HD, as soon as i start HD it shoot's to 90% |
| [19:56:58] | metalac: | with X being 45–50 |
| [19:58:27] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: I'll look into gentoo's opengl manual nad see what's up |
| [19:59:54] | lostboy1: | metalac: are you using closed source drivers? |
| [20:00:10] | metalac: | lostboy1: yea |
| [20:00:13] | orogor: | haaa th grabber is culprit i think |
| [20:00:24] | orogor: | tv_grab_fr --slow --days 7 --output /tmp/TV.xml |
| [20:00:32] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: back around the 81xx nvidia driver versions they had similar openglvsync issues where it would drive up CPU load |
| [20:00:33] | orogor: | it returns only the list of channels |
| [20:00:35] | lostboy1: | metalac: did you do "eselect opengl nvidia" or the like? |
| [20:00:42] | GreyFoxx: | maybe they have reintroduced the box ? |
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| [20:01:08] | GreyFoxx: | I'm still using 7676 :) |
| [20:01:13] | metalac: | lostboy1: yes i did |
| [20:01:15] | GreyFoxx: | It was the last4 version before the problems :) |
| [20:02:01] | AdamDH: | hi all |
| [20:02:14] | lostboy1: | metalac: just for giggles, what frame rate do you get with glxgears? |
| [20:02:21] | Juski: | woof my mythtv box is getting busy |
| [20:02:52] | Juski: | 4 tuners on a Via KT600 board? not even I'm that daft |
| [20:03:18] | metalac: | is there anything regarding OpenGL i could do in nvidia-settings? |
| [20:03:19] | Juski: | ey AdamDH .. up for another round vs mythtv? |
| [20:03:22] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: How do you like the EPIA board? I'm being asked to do one up for my wifes cousin and was thinking of using one |
| [20:03:30] | AdamDH: | yes |
| [20:03:36] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: it's spiffy for a frontend |
| [20:03:52] | metalac: | lostboy1: ewwwwwww i get like 60fps |
| [20:03:58] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: There are settings in there but I doubt they would help. For now I would suggest turning off Oglvsync in myth |
| [20:04:03] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: ouch hehe |
| [20:04:08] | Juski: | Merlin83b is a bit fond of his dual dvb-t tuner Epia setup too |
| [20:04:11] | AdamDH: | trying to manually tune via terminal to a channle so I know the drivers work but I get nothing but static |
| [20:04:24] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Cool. a single tuner and a small all in one board are good for her. TVout is pretty good I assume ? |
| [20:04:30] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: glxgears shouldn't have anything to do with me watching HD extra slow would it? |
| [20:04:54] | lostboy1: | metalac: 60fps says your running software gl |
| [20:04:57] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: not specifically unless openglvsync is using, but it does indicate a problem |
| [20:04:58] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: svideo doesn't sparkle as much as it should .. bit fuzzy on blues for some odd reason in PAL mode |
| [20:05:11] | fryfrog: | does yoru xorg.conf have "load glx"? |
| [20:05:22] | metalac: | fryfrog: yes it does |
| [20:05:24] | fryfrog: | i mean, thats prolly a duh :/ |
| [20:05:28] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: only visible on VERY saturated colours though |
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| [20:05:49] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: hmmm. I think we might have one around the office I get use to play with |
| [20:05:56] | GreyFoxx: | if the TVout is good enough I might get one for her |
| [20:06:10] | GreyFoxx: | just trying to avoid a "big" pc looking thing and don'ty wanna spend big money on it |
| [20:06:26] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: it'll need XvMC working to be any use at all though. mine is 1Ghz & xine can't cope with dvd playback without it |
| [20:06:38] | GreyFoxx: | hmmmm |
| [20:06:58] | metalac: | i turned rendeaccell on in xorg, and now i'm getting 1500fps ;) |
| [20:07:06] | GreyFoxx: | Actually now that I think of it, I've got a athlon 1.2ghz machine laying around at home |
| [20:07:07] | Juski: | though that might've been cos I hadn't turned on DMA on the DVD drive, it was so long ago now |
| [20:07:08] | ivor: | GreyFoxx: I'll add another epia vote. |
| [20:07:23] | ivor: | perfect for little low power front ends. |
| [20:07:29] | GreyFoxx: | Juski/Ivor: which bouards? M10k's? |
| [20:07:57] | fryfrog: | metalac: how do you turn that on? |
| [20:08:01] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: M10k here, modded to be fanless with a Zalman Northbridge cooler |
| [20:08:02] | ivor: | depends on your output needs. the commell boards have component out on them |
| [20:08:20] | GreyFoxx: | composite or svideo are fine for her |
| [20:08:29] | Juski: | I still need to look into modding the board to get RGB out of the TV encoder :) |
| [20:08:48] | ivor: | also... if you have HD mpeg2 then you'll want a Unichrome-pro. |
| [20:08:49] | ** GreyFoxx heads out to pick up his little'un ** | |
| [20:09:03] | metalac: | fryfrog: Option RenderAccel "true" in video card section of xorg.conf |
| [20:09:05] | ** Juski looks at his to-do list... shit! it's getting long ** | |
| [20:09:27] | ivor: | Juski: I think you'll have to detach the necessary pins off the board and wire them up. |
| [20:09:43] | Juski: | pin 12 is the missing link IIRC |
| [20:09:52] | lostboy1: | metalac: did that help at all? |
| [20:09:57] | ivor: | yup but I believe it's tied low on the mainboard. |
| [20:10:14] | Juski: | ivor: lifting a pin is no sweat for me |
| [20:10:14] | metalac: | lostboy1: didn't help with HD at all |
| [20:10:25] | ivor: | hmm too small for my fat fingers |
| [20:10:25] | Juski: | and I doubt they tie an output pin low |
| [20:10:48] | Juski: | that'd be somewhat BAD for the output driver ;) |
| [20:11:16] | metalac: | this is weird using xvmc i get much worse SD, now it's up to 80% for SD |
| [20:11:19] | metalac: | up from 17% |
| [20:11:20] | metalac: | weird |
| [20:11:26] | Juski: | some boards have a header with all the outputs on em.. wish I'd got one of them instead |
| [20:11:39] | ivor: | true :) |
| [20:11:44] | Juski: | then I could use a _quality_ RGB to svid encoder |
| [20:12:09] | Juski: | either that or relegate my cable box to AV2 |
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| [20:13:06] | Juski: | hrmm.. now there's a thought.. I could make a hardware mod & little program to send a parallel port pin high to give me a SCART switching signal... |
| [20:13:17] | Juski: | have it launch when mythfrontend starts |
| [20:13:35] | kusznir: | Hi: Where can I go to get more info on how to deal with Myth XV problems (specifically, dealing with " VideoOutputXv Error: Could not find suitable XVideo surface." |
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| [20:14:09] | Juski: | kusznir: have you installed proper drivers for your VGA card? |
| [20:14:20] | Juski: | and make sure you're not trying to use XGL |
| [20:14:43] | Juski: | XGL.. now there's something that isn't talked about very often anymore.. pfft |
| [20:16:24] | kusznir: | Ok, I discovered I was using vesa instead of the sis driver. Where do I look for XGL? |
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| [20:16:32] | kusznir: | (Thanks, btw!) |
| [20:16:51] | Juski: | kusznir: if you don't know if you use XGL or not, you don't use it |
| [20:17:04] | kusznir: | Ok that fixes that :) |
| [20:17:06] | kormoc: | kusznir, you don't want to... |
| [20:18:18] | Juski: | if I wanted wobbly windows I'd have got SafestyleUK in to do my double-glazing |
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| [20:29:19] | firefly2442: | I seem to be having a problem with mythtv scanning my channels |
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| [20:29:40] | firefly2442: | I can watch TV perfectly with TVTime but MythTV is unable to find any signals for the channels |
| [20:29:52] | firefly2442: | Any ideas? Thanks. |
| [20:30:04] | kormoc: | firefly2442, are you in the US? |
| [20:30:07] | firefly2442: | yes |
| [20:30:12] | kormoc: | then don't scan |
| [20:30:19] | kormoc: | just setup zap2it like the docs say |
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| [20:34:45] | firefly2442: | kormoc, I've got zap2it setup, and it can grab my lineup in the video source |
| [20:34:57] | firefly2442: | kormoc, however, nothing shows up in the channel editor |
| [20:35:19] | kormoc: | firefly2442, did you run mythfilldatabase? |
| [20:35:24] | firefly2442: | kormoc, yes |
| [20:35:29] | kormoc: | and it said? |
| [20:38:54] | kusznir: | I'm getting what I feel to be excessive "jumpyness". The audio never noticably glitches, but the video doesn't seem smooth (tickers scrolling are very noticable, any other moderately-fast action shots have the same problem). I'm using a PVR-250 w/ 4500 bitrate, 6000 max bitrate at 480x480. Is this expected behavior for these settings? |
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| [20:40:27] | firefly2442: | kormoc, it doesn't seem to be grabbing any data? http://pastebin.ca/189100 |
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| [20:43:00] | DigerLAP: | was reading and saw |
| [20:43:01] | DigerLAP: | with TV out: |
| [20:43:01] | DigerLAP: | tv<ENTER> |
| [20:43:01] | DigerLAP: | This will set your video adapter to a resolution of 800x600. |
| [20:43:01] | DigerLAP: | Note: You'll still need to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to change the refresh rate or you CAN destroy your TV. |
| [20:43:09] | DigerLAP: | the note is scary |
| [20:43:26] | DigerLAP: | how do you know the refresh of your tv |
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| [20:43:39] | bluey: | mhh menno will endlich nen merom macbook :) |
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| [20:43:59] | bluey: | oups :) |
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| [20:55:59] | DigerLAP: | on the manual install will it still pretty much ask you questions on setting up the hdd |
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| [20:56:23] | [Ex0r]: | anyone here have the link to the page that talked about using a remote with mythtv ? |
| [20:57:20] | kormoc: | wiki.mythtv.org? |
| [20:57:31] | [Ex0r]: | can't remember what the device was |
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| [20:58:31] | DigerLAP: | http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=RemoteControls |
| [20:58:33] | DigerLAP: | ? |
| [20:58:44] | kormoc: | well, I'll just use my telepathic abilitys to read your mind... to help me out, I want you to go sit in your shower, with all your best clothes on, and sing baa baa black sheep while patting your head and drinking milk |
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| [20:59:07] | hads: | heh |
| [20:59:16] | ** Freman scratches head ** | |
| [20:59:51] | [Ex0r]: | DigeratiH- it was a IR remote that somebody a few months back recommended to me to use with the hauppage pvr set |
| [21:00:15] | hads: | MCE? |
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| [21:00:21] | [Ex0r]: | pvr-150 |
| [21:00:59] | [Ex0r]: | yeah, it's the hauppage pvr-150mce, so im going to check into mce usb remotes |
| [21:01:19] | [Ex0r]: | something tells me they are expensive though |
| [21:02:23] | kormoc: | $35ish or so |
| [21:02:40] | [Ex0r]: | wow |
| [21:02:41] | [Ex0r]: | for a remote |
| [21:04:17] | [Ex0r]: | 72 dollars wtf! |
| [21:04:24] | DigerLAP: | Heading Home |
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| [21:08:16] | krisp_: | my remote was 160 when i bought it |
| [21:08:29] | Freman: | show length inside mythtv: 42:12, and runs right to end of show exported showleneght – half that |
| [21:08:39] | Freman: | I wonder if mythtv is reading a different file |
| [21:08:52] | [Ex0r]: | IRBlaster! |
| [21:08:54] | [Ex0r]: | that's what it was |
| [21:10:02] | [Ex0r]: | lol, the normal wintv-pvr150 comes with a remote, and only uses coaxial, the pvr150mce comes with coaxial AND rca, and no remote, that makes no sense |
| [21:10:58] | kormoc: | the MCE edition assumes you have the MCE package, which includes a MCE remote |
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| [21:11:31] | [Ex0r]: | so they substitute a necessary remote for rca plugs ? |
| [21:11:54] | kormoc: | it's not necessary, and yes, it's a remote via the pvr-150 or rca plugs |
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| [21:13:02] | stuarta: | arse |
| [21:13:36] | [Ex0r]: | what do you mean, not necessary? How are you supposed to turn the channels if you don't have a remote. |
| [21:13:45] | kormoc: | use a keyboard? |
| [21:13:46] | AdamDH: | any ideas how I can use the command line intvtune to tune in a UK tv channle to rule out a drive issue while debugging my myth problem? |
| [21:13:56] | AdamDH: | *ivtv |
| [21:14:17] | kormoc: | for the first year and a half, my mythbox didn't have a remote, it had a keyboard |
| [21:14:50] | kormoc: | and if you want RCA and a remote, well, you can but the MCE edition, and buy a remote separately, so you can have both. |
| [21:15:29] | [Ex0r]: | heh, it's nice the MCE costs even more than the normal, and it doesn't even have a remote with it |
| [21:16:17] | kormoc: | [Ex0r], the mce edition also has a built in radio tuner that the regular editions don't have |
| [21:16:43] | [Ex0r]: | so does my mp3 player and dvd player |
| [21:16:47] | xris: | [Ex0r]: huh? pvr-150 mce is about $65, full retail with remote is around $95 |
| [21:17:12] | [Ex0r]: | umm it is? I can buy the mce at the local best buy for 79, the non mce is 90 |
| [21:17:21] | kormoc: | xris, now now, you're getting facts get in the way of his wonderful bitching |
| [21:17:22] | [Ex0r]: | err, other way around |
| [21:17:57] | [Ex0r]: | anyways, thanks for the lousy support, have fun |
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| [21:19:47] | xris: | wow. because best buy is *such* a good price. |
| [21:20:34] | BULLE: | bäst buy |
| [21:20:48] | BULLE: | some big computer store chain ? |
| [21:20:53] | kormoc: | I didn't even get to tell him that we're not the hauppauge support channel |
| [21:21:21] | kormoc: | BULLE, yeah, also known for some heafty markups on certain things |
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| [21:22:12] | Juski: | whoah man that blender is hard work |
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| [21:22:42] | Juski: | that's a definite RTFW program |
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| [21:23:28] | pben: | hi |
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| [21:23:48] | Juski: | time for bed, said I |
| [21:23:54] | Juski: | g'night |
| [21:24:37] | benp: | quick question for anyone about, i have googled it, but to no avail and was wondering if i need a dvd remote for my xbox as the controller doesn't seem to work |
| [21:24:52] | benp: | does seem kinda strange that it wouldn't support xbox controller |
| [21:25:10] | benp: | cya Juski |
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| [21:29:04] | benp: | ah, just read a thread, gamepad doesn't work |
| [21:29:08] | benp: | n/m |
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| [21:50:42] | Bazil: | what can be wrong .. when i run mythfilldatabase it hangs after printing 2006-10–02 23:49:33.395 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [21:50:42] | Bazil: | 2006-10–02 23:49:33.411 New DB connection, total: 2 |
| [21:51:00] | BULLE: | strace it ? |
| [21:51:11] | BULLE: | check mythlogs and mysql-logs and dmesg ? |
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| [22:00:21] | Bazil: | dont even know what to search for |
| [22:00:29] | Bazil: | think ineed to get help ;) |
| [22:03:09] | Eskas: | I'm using myth 0.18 now and have just about installed it. planning on doing an upgrade. how do I clean the database so I can make a totally fresh install of mythtv? |
| [22:03:34] | hjohnson: | whee, my thinkpad is melting down |
| [22:04:14] | hjohnson: | figuratively speaking |
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| [22:05:21] | hads: | Eskas: drop the database |
| [22:05:22] | nasa: | I know this is off topic... But does anyone know how to get the drivers for the pcHDTV 5500 to compile? Mine quits with errors about dvb_net.c |
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| [22:12:38] | regicide666: | I am looking for some information on getting a firewire cable box conection to work but am haveingn some troubles. Could some one point me to some information that would help get it going? |
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| [22:16:25] | nasa: | start here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/FireWire |
| [22:16:38] | nasa: | That's were I am looking now :} |
| [22:17:28] | regicide666: | yea i was reading that and it is more of a quick setup if everything is working and I am not haveing any luck |
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| [22:21:36] | nasa: | well, I am just starting to work on it.... Since, I can't get my pcHDTV 5500 drivers to compile :{ |
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| [22:25:30] | kusznir: | Hi all: I'm having trouble getting my slave backend to "come online" (be seen and used by the master backend). My understanding is if I complete mythtv-setup, specifying the IP of the master backend and set up a tuner (including linking it to available guide feed), then it should work. Is this correct, or have I forgotten something? |
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| [22:40:36] | jblack: | Hmmm. Some of my music isn't showing up. |
| [22:40:46] | jblack: | Could that be the lack of id3 tags? |
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| [22:49:43] | kusznir: | I'm getting a lot of "prebuffering pauseAAAAAAAA...." messages on my console that coorelate with pauses in video playback. No other warnings/errors look out of place. Can anyone offer suggestions as to how to diagnos this further? |
| [22:50:13] | kusznir: | (frontend is communicating with a seperate backend; it used to work fine. I just rebuilt it, and am now eperiencing the problems. |
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| [23:06:33] | Ibeam: | is there a way to stop a tuner from being used when another tuner on the same card is being used? (composite takes over from DVB and Myth doesn't complain while recording ) |
| [23:07:07] | kormoc: | wouldn't you configure them as different inputs on the same card? |
| [23:07:14] | kormoc: | then myth should do the proper thing, no? |
| [23:08:22] | Ibeam: | kormoc: yes they are different inputs, but the hardware is incapable of tuning both simultaneously, |
| [23:08:30] | kormoc: | right |
| [23:08:56] | kormoc: | myth should know that one card == one stream, and thus if they're both setup as a single card, it should know and do the proper thing |
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| [23:10:30] | Ibeam: | kormoc: hmm... between analog Television and composite it does, but DVB and Analog TV/Composite it doesn't (it's a hybrid card, and it appears as 2 different devices) |
| [23:10:44] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [23:10:47] | kormoc: | that would be why then |
| [23:10:55] | kormoc: | currently, I don't think there is a way to do that then |
| [23:11:03] | ** kormoc peers at the others in the room ** | |
| [23:11:08] | kormoc: | unless I am mistaken? |
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| [23:12:04] | siXy: | no i tried that witha hauppauge pv-1100 i think and couldnt get anywhere |
| [23:12:27] | ** Ibeam nods ** | |
| [23:12:32] | siXy: | or maybe it was a 1300 im not sure, anyway, i gave up in the end |
| [23:12:41] | Dagmar: | You should be able to just tell it to only run a max of one recording job at a time. |
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| [23:12:47] | Dagmar: | Then set tuner affinity for your recordings |
| [23:13:10] | Dagmar: | You are definitely allowed to tell 0.20 "I want this program recorded on tuneer two if possible" |
| [23:13:12] | regicide666: | anyone using firewire |
| [23:13:30] | Ibeam: | Dagmar: that's a good idea, but I have 3 cards so i Can't limit the number of recordings |
| [23:13:40] | Cardoe: | regicide666: I know someone that does |
| [23:14:01] | sunnyhours4130: | can anyone recommend an infrared receiver IC available in the US (making a remote control receiver for use with lirc) |
| [23:14:05] | regicide666: | I am getting data with "test-mpeg2 -r 1 > test1.mpg" but I can not play it in mplayer |
| [23:14:12] | Dagmar: | Ibeam: I don't really see that as much of a problem so long as you don't actually schedule a conflict |
| [23:14:18] | Cardoe: | Does MythVideo work with Xine? |
| [23:14:33] | kormoc: | Cardoe, why wouldn't it? |
| [23:14:33] | xris: | I think so |
| [23:14:42] | opello: | aren't there homemade irblaster circuits around somewhere? |
| [23:15:18] | Dagmar: | Many |
| [23:15:34] | Dagmar: | If you're lazy you can just order a transciever for about $25–30 pre-made |
| [23:15:45] | xris: | opello: lirc.org is a good starting place |
| [23:15:54] | opello: | sunnyhours4130: ^ :) |
| [23:16:11] | xris: | opello: or to irblaster.info and buy a nice-looking one |
| [23:16:13] | Ibeam: | Dagmar: when someone wants to watch LiveTV and that input is the only one available it tunes to it |
| [23:16:21] | nero: | opello, the ir diode + resister in series circuit is by far the easiest, and costs about a buck to make. |
| [23:16:28] | opello: | xris: sunnyhours4130 asked ... i figured someone might have the link |
| [23:16:32] | opello: | i didn't think you needed an ic |
| [23:16:34] | xris: | nero: more like $8, actually |
| [23:16:46] | nero: | xris, $8?? how so? |
| [23:17:07] | nero: | (cost me about 10c for the resistor and a buckish for the IR diode) |
| [23:17:47] | Ibeam: | Ibeam: I'm not the user of this machine, and they have a certain lack of comprehension that if all tuners are being used, then not to watch LiveTv... I hink I'll just nag them into submission.. hehe |
| [23:17:50] | opello: | oh, he was making a receiver |
| [23:18:01] | opello: | i thought he was just making the standard blaster ... |
| [23:18:58] | Ibeam: | Dagmar: ^ |
| [23:19:30] | xris: | nero: cost me about $5 for the serial plug |
| [23:19:46] | Dagmar: | Ibeam: just edit the menu and take LiveTV watching out of it. ;) |
| [23:19:58] | Dagmar: | Tell them they can only watch what is recorded |
| [23:19:59] | nero: | xris, oh yeah.. forgot about that... (i just butchered an old serial cable that wasn't in use) |
| [23:20:18] | Ibeam: | Dagmar: heh.. sounds like a plan |
| [23:20:23] | xris: | nero: all of my old serial plugs were din9 (mac) |
| [23:21:17] | Ibeam: | thanx for the info folks |
| [23:21:25] | nero: | Ok.. opello as long as you have an old serial cable laying around, it costs about a buck to build your own.. ;) |
| [23:21:31] | opello: | yeah :) |
| [23:22:10] | opello: | i'm sure i'd just go buy a solder end from the shack if they even carry that kind of stuff anymore |
| [23:22:41] | nero: | opello, at the shack that'll probably cost you about $30.00 ;) |
| [23:23:03] | opello: | heh |
| [23:23:04] | opello: | probably :) |
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| [23:36:40] | orogor: | anyone knows how to get mythtv to identify moviues automagically ? |
| [23:37:37] | artus30: | Hi all |
| [23:37:48] | artus30: | any lirc specialist available? |
| [23:38:35] | siXy: | just ask your question :) |
| [23:38:50] | artus30: | I have a problem with lirc_serial |
| [23:39:07] | artus30: | I tried it and it loads ok |
| [23:39:09] | siXy: | oroger – not in .19. that may have changed now, but i had to write a scrip to do it |
| [23:39:11] | artus30: | I am using Suse 10.1 |
| [23:39:26] | siXy: | whats the problem? |
| [23:39:27] | artus30: | mode2 does not show anything |
| [23:39:35] | orogor: | siXy, where is it ? |
| [23:39:44] | artus30: | irw not either |
| [23:39:52] | siXy: | what the script i wrote? on one of my computers |
| [23:40:03] | orogor: | apprently the issue is to associate imdb ids wit movies, even the search doesn t seems to work |
| [23:40:23] | siXy: | artus did you use the lirc thats built into suse or did you compile from source? |
| [23:40:58] | artus30: | lirc_dev: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag. |
| [23:40:59] | artus30: | lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 |
| [23:40:59] | artus30: | lirc_serial: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag. |
| [23:40:59] | artus30: | lirc_serial: auto-detected active low receiver |
| [23:40:59] | artus30: | lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin: sample_rate: 0 |
| [23:40:59] | artus30: | BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 1 devices found |
| [23:41:10] | artus30: | Suse binary |
| [23:41:28] | Dagmar: | But a reciever made from tin foil and cherry candies, right? |
| [23:41:49] | siXy: | in that case i would check your hardware, and the settings in modprobe.conf |
| [23:42:08] | Dagmar: | mode2 seldom shows _nothing_ unless the hardware is broken |
| [23:42:20] | artus30: | and irw ? |
| [23:42:53] | siXy: | irw wont show much useful without a properly configured conf in /etc/ |
| [23:43:09] | Dagmar: | Irw won't show you *anything* |
| [23:43:13] | siXy: | but mode2 *should* show something |
| [23:43:14] | Dagmar: | It's an _output_ tool |
| [23:43:23] | siXy: | thats what i said |
| [23:43:38] | Dagmar: | "wont show much useful" implies it might show somehting. |
| [23:43:38] | artus30: | how can I find out if anything is received? |
| [23:43:50] | Dagmar: | artus30: Usually, that's what you use mode2 for |
| [23:43:59] | siXy: | meh language differences :/ i need to remember that not everyone speaks the way i do |
| [23:44:03] | Dagmar: | ALl it does is spit out numbers representing the pulse lengths |
| [23:44:35] | siXy: | check the serial port isnt disabled in bios, and that your hardware is connected correctly |
| [23:44:37] | Dagmar: | If you had an IR LED on a keychain and just pushed it near the receiver, mode2 would show you largish numbers |
| [23:45:26] | siXy: | but a blank mode2 on serial devices is bad news |
| [23:45:26] | artus30: | if dmesg shows ttyS0 is it enabled in BIOS ? |
| [23:47:05] | nasa: | anyone have any luck with sa3250HD? (comcast HD box ) via firewire. I have been following this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/FireWire. Plugreport isn't showing any active nodes, any thing I am missing? |
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| [23:48:08] | siXy: | artus30: can you reboot and check your bios settings? |
| [23:48:11] | siXy: | ah well |
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| [23:50:53] | DigeratiH: | <DigerLAP> was reading and saw |
| [23:50:53] | DigeratiH: | <DigerLAP> with TV out: |
| [23:50:53] | DigeratiH: | <DigerLAP> tv<ENTER> |
| [23:50:53] | DigeratiH: | <DigerLAP> This will set your video adapter to a resolution of 800x600. |
| [23:50:54] | DigeratiH: | <DigerLAP> Note: You'll still need to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to change the refresh rate or you CAN destroy your TV. |
| [23:50:57] | DigeratiH: | <DigerLAP> the note is scary |
| [23:50:59] | DigeratiH: | <DigerLAP> how do you know the refresh of your tv |
| [23:51:02] | frank_: | anyone here runs mythtv 0.20 under Ubuntu dapper? The DVD menu created by mytharchive has problems. |
| [23:51:24] | Dagmar: | A docuemntation allergy is a terrible thing |
| [23:52:00] | siXy: | Dagmar: hehe :) |
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