Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, September 23rd, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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kormoc:

just mythtv, mythvideo is a frontend only plugin

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Paladine:

so I would need to setup a vnc and use mythvideo via mythfrontend to watch my dvds when I am on the road

[00:01:36]

Paladine:

oh well that works too I suppose :)

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Paladine:

whats the minimum bw required for useable streaming over a network?

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Paladine:

1253kbps bitrate stream over 500KB/s link ok?

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kormoc:

let's figure it out

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Paladine:

that is too much for my brain at this time of night hehe

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kormoc:

1253 kilobits per second over a link that maxes out at 500 kilobits per second

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kormoc:

does that sound like it would work well?

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Paladine:

no Kb/s not kb/s

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Paladine:

big difference

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kormoc:

usually links are measured in bits per second

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kormoc:

well, 1253 kilobits per second is only 156.6 kilobytes per second

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Paladine:

yeah thats what I mean

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Paladine:

should be doable then

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kormoc:

give to convert from bits to bytes, you just divide by 8

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ack_f0o:

i just fuzzed a few input sin the setup area, and I still see just that... fuzz.....

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ack_f0o:

grabbing some old rca cables out of the attic for a composite run..........

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sphery:

sb g 09.22 14:36

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sphery:

oops

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ack_f0o:

umm.. just thought of my old aud 2 vid quant issues...

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ack_f0o:

paladine: how do you get audio input?

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Paladine:

ack, RCA out from thestb to RCA in on the pvr150

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ack_f0o:

ppaladine: you have no quantization issues? I used to — way back in the old days...

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine, kormoc — you guys talking about streaming over the web?

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Paladine:

ack, no problems at all

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Paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, yeah via a vnc connection to my home network

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techNick_:

has anyone here ever used MythDora?

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Paladine:

or vpn

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Paladine:

or whatever you want to call it

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Paladine:

:)

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: Ick... I wonder if mythstreamtv works with .20..

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Paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, I would be wanting to do it for mythvideo, so I couldn't use mythstreamtv

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ack_f0o:

paladine: any way to hardcode my tuner input to chan 3?

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Paladine:

I would have to setup a vpn and access it that way

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: Maybe — but you could also do what I do — use Mythweb to kick off MythstreamTV.

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: No VPN necessary – just a login to the web server...

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Paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, apparantly mythstreamtv doesn't work for mythvideo, only for mythtv

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: yeah, but it's all php scripts, just like Mythweb, so it could be modified... ;-)

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sphery:

Paladine: what addition to the wishlist for menu mode?

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Paladine:

sphery MythVideoCom :)

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sphery:

(catching up 6 hours later...)

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Paladine:

video intercom system for mythfrontend :)

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: Isn't that "Mythphone" ;-)

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sphery:

I don't know--because I don't use it--but isn't that what MythPhone is about?

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sphery:

(and allows going beyond intercom to talk to others outside your network)

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Paladine:

I dunno, when I asked last night I was under the impression that it didn't currently exist?

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Paladine:

I will have to look at mythphone then

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sphery:

Check out MythPhone

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sphery:

A lot of people using it are coming from/also using Asterisk

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Paladine:

allows you to use webcam and mic to call up another mythfrontendon the same LAN?

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sphery:

http://www.asterisk.org/

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: Yes, and even another mythfrontend on the web...

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Paladine:

I can't open webpages atm

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Paladine:

I better edit my wishlist entry back out of the wiki later then before someone tells me off :)

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J-e-f-f-A:

rotfl!

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sphery:

Or, any asterisk (or other computer-based PBX user) (I think)

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sphery:

Paladine: enjoy your phoning, etc.

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Paladine:

just thought it would be cool for my missus to nag^Wspeak to me when we are in different parts of the house

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine, sphery – It used to work with Vonage too, until Vongage got greedy and blocked calls from/to it. (Mythphone uses FWD – Free World Dialup)

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Paladine:

Ineed to write my own mythfrontend theme, this one is getting crowsed with all the plugins

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Paladine:

crowded

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: So how do you like .20 so far?

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Paladine:

my mythfrontend is only 720x576

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Paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, rocks my world

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Paladine:

I have mythmusic, mythgallery, mytharchive and mythvideo setup :)

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: Did you get that blaster setup/working yet?!?

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Paladine:

now I just need 4x 750GB SATAII barracudas to setup my 3TB raid5 array :)

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ack_f0o:

paladine: no svid out on my box..

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Paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, did I mention I hate rebooting?

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Paladine:

next time I reboot I will plug in theblaster

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: You shouldn't need to re-boot — it's just an LED on the serial port!

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Paladine:

I don't like the thought of plugging in a serial device without any shieldingon the plug

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Blargly:

Hi can anyone help me with an install question of knoppmyth? =)

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J-e-f-f-A:

Blargly: maybe — What's your Question?

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Blargly:

well i installed it and got to the 'configuration' part of the pamphlet, but then it says it will 'automatically' login the mythtv user and open a setup thing but instead it wants me to log in

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Blargly:

not sure what mythtv user's pw even is lol

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Paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, I am playing with dvd::rip atm and loving it

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J-e-f-f-A:

Blargly: You probably hit a key on the keyboard and cancelled the automatic login then — the user should be mythtv – I think the pw is the same by default.

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Paladine:

but am gonna need an uber disk array for my entire dvd collection

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Blargly:

ok

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Blargly:

i will try that

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Blargly:

thanks

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Paladine:

yeah password is mythtv

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Paladine:

or at least it isonmine

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: I've got 4x200GB — 760GB formatted as an LVM.

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Paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, am gonna go with RAID5

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Blargly:

that worked; so how to do i launch the config part of the instilation?

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: My password is different! ;-) I don't like default passwords!

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Paladine:

sinceIhave hardware RAID5 on my board

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Blargly:

"XFree86 implementation of the X Window

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Blargly:

System5 will start automatically via the GNOME Display Manager.

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hobophobe:

J-e-f-f-A, is that with or without the exclamation point? ;o)

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Paladine:

sysv?

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Paladine:

I thought sysv was dead?

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Blargly:

Is there any way for me to get the x window system 5 to start

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J-e-f-f-A:

hobophobe: I once used a password of "IFORGOT" on a shared ID at work. One day my boss asked me "What's the password for xxxxxx again?", and I said "I FORGOT". He said, "Come on, you use it every day, how can you forget?" — I said "I FORGOT!" — He finally got it about 30 seconds later... ;-)

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Paladine:

I am suprised I don't forget my passwords

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Paladine:

they are normally 12–16 characterslong and mixed case alphanumeric

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Paladine:

andI have a -lot- of them hehe

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: We have to change them every 30 days (minimum) at work... And I mix case and numbers and symbols...

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Blargly:

:/

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J-e-f-f-A:

Blargly: Maybe you should just re-boot and try again? It should boot right up, asking you if you want to install or run from the CD. Sounds like that didn't happen the first time...

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Blargly:

well i installed from CD then it told me to 'remove the CD and reboot'

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Blargly:

thats when it was supposed to automagically start the setup and didnt

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Blargly:

i will try a reboot

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Blargly:

nope :(

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Blargly:

ill restart install

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J-e-f-f-A:

Blargly: That's probably the best bet... Strange...

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Blargly:

hopefully i just hit a key like you said

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Paladine:

that was funny

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Paladine:

I run an ircd on anothernetwork andI haven't even loggedinto the box for that user for over 18 months, but I am a hub and one of the other hubs changed their IP so I had to relearn our ircd again bwahaha

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kormoc:

you are a strange, strange man

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armand:

heh

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Paladine:

but a luvable strange strange man

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Paladine:

Ihve so many more important andinteresting things to do than actually admin my ircd :p

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Paladine:

my current IP is not even added to the o:lines

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Paladine:

haven't bothered opering up on there for like 2 years

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Paladine:

sighup is your friend :)

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Dagmar:

Hmm...

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Dagmar:

This last build of mythtv seems to be not working so well. Bleh

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pyrodex:

anyone know why myth would show nothing in the main menu? It seems to be a new issue after a recent cvs compile

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Dagmar:

Old themes

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Dagmar:

If you use 0.20, the 0.19 themes are likely to do exactly that

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Dagmar:

turn off the OpenGL paint engine if sanifying your installed themes doesn't work

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ShockValue:

is it even possible to get digital passthrough with this? http://www.davko.co.nz/admin/files/DELL%20SX280%20no%20trap.jpg

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ShockValue:

it has 1 input, and 1 output. currently the intel8x0 driver does the sound, but i would like to get ac3,dts,pcm data out the port

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J-e-f-f-A:

ShockValue: I'm confused — the pic is of a tiny pc with a locking device on it-- what does that mean?

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ShockValue:

its a picture of the machine i have, showing the audio jacks available to me

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hobophobe:

It seems possible a USB device could suit your need but I don't know if it exists?

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J-e-f-f-A:

ShockValue: Unless the standard 3.5 audio jacks can be re-configured in software to do digital i/o, then you'd probably need to do it via usb (like hobophobe just said too)

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ShockValue:

yeah, i was hoping to somehow trick digital data out the port on the box... im totally broek :/

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ShockValue:

broke

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J-e-f-f-A:

ShockValue: What's the model number?

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ShockValue:

hrm, i wonder if they can

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ShockValue:

its the micro model of the dell optiplex gx620

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mythtTVusr:

hi everyone.. is anyone still having the problem with the screen freezing on doing a FFW at 5x or higher in mythtv 0.20 with a pvr350?

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ShockValue:

ICH7 chipset

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ShockValue:

everyone says that the alsa driver Intel-HD is what works, but i couldnt get that to work.. intel8x0 does though

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kormoc:

your onboard card might not support HD audio

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ShockValue:

unfortunatly this thing doesnt have any expansion slots in it, or i would just slap the old soundblaster in there

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ShockValue:

here's something interesting i get from /proc/asound/pcm though:

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ShockValue:

00–04: Intel ICH – IEC958 : Intel ICH7 – IEC958 : playback 1

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J-e-f-f-A:

ShockValue: "Audio: Ac97, SoundBlaster Emulation" "16-bit Analog-to-Digital; 20-bit Digital-to-analog" — Nothing about digital i/o for the sound card so far...

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kormoc:

only certain intel chips ship with HD audio support

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sloncho:

hi. how can I check if the XvMC is used during playback. I set it to be used. I compiled with XvMC support. My card is nvidia, using the nvidia's driver, 3D is working, etc. But for some reason the OSD text is blinking and unreadble, so I guess it's either the XvMC not enabled, or problem with it anyway

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kormoc:

for example, only 9xx chipsets can support it, (910GL, 915G, 915P, 915GV, 915GL, 915PL, 925XE, 925X,955X, 945G and 945P )

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Paladine:

well I am impressed

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Dagmar:

sloncho: No, actually that would be a sign that XvMC is working.

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Paladine:

1253kbps bitrate xvid4 at 720x400 is decent quality

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Dagmar:

sloncho: Ya gotta read some of the ML traffic. XvMC and the OSD don't get along very well still

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J-e-f-f-A:

ShockValue, kormoc: it's got an Intel 945 Express chipset...

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Paladine:

Iwas expecting uber artifacting and motion issues

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ShockValue:

kormoc – im using 945

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sloncho:

Dagmar, hmmm, no good then :(. So can I improve the situation somehow. Xv displays OK, but I do not want to use the CPU for that

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kormoc:

J-e-f-f-A, 945G, or 945P or one of the hundreds of other 945s?

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mithasdf:

anyone else experience the 5x FFW problem with the pvr-350 under mythtv 0.20?

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ShockValue:

not sure, let me see if i can figuyre it out

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kormoc:

J-e-f-f-A, for example, my 945GP doesn't support HD audio, but the 945G does

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sloncho:

opps, sorry Dagmar, did not read the second line

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J-e-f-f-A:

kormoc: Humm... docs on dell's site just say "Chipset: Intel (R) 945 Express" — it's got Gigabit ethernet...

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sloncho:

i'll go to read then

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kormoc:

J-e-f-f-A, it's likely just a i945 then, no letters at all

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J-e-f-f-A:

kormoc: "Integrated Intel Graphic Media Accelerator 950 with integrated DVI with dual-monitor support"

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ShockValue:

yeah thats the one

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J-e-f-f-A:

ShockValue, kormoc: I don't see any motherboard connections for digital audio either...

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kormoc:

that would be a very very good indication yours just doesn't support it then

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ShockValue:

does IEC958 suggest digital? http://pastebin.ca/180339 lists my audio stuff

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J-e-f-f-A:

sloncho: I use XVMC with .19 and the 'chroma osd' patch on a PIII 1Ghz to get hi-def, and it does flicker too. I just 'live' with it right now as I don't have the funds to upgrade the machine right now.

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sloncho:

J-e-f-f-A: thanks. maybe I'll do the same

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sloncho:

i did not install any patch though, just the 20-fixes. I do not know if it has that patch included

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J-e-f-f-A:

sloncho: I dunno — I think I remember that it was slated to go in with .20. I'm still running .19 — I'm a little wary of upgrading just yet, even though I like what I read about the new functionality...

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sloncho:

J-e-f-f-A: the upgrade went really smooth. And ... besides that it is memory hungry (gets 50% more memory), it is still beauty

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J-e-f-f-A:

slon

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J-e-f-f-A:

oops...

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sloncho:

the frontend gets 240MB of my 256 memory :)

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kormoc:

ouch

[01:44:31]

** kormoc ponders getting that gig upgrade **

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sloncho:

but ... the internal player is amazing

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J-e-f-f-A:

sloncho: Then I'll probably hold off then ... my backend is limited at 512mb now as it's RDRAM, and I don't have the cash to buy that junk... I'll probably just upgrade the whole box in a few months... (It runs real close to 512MB! I've only got 5k free right now!)

[01:45:53]

sloncho:

i just discovered (it may exist in prev version, but never tried), that if I have a direcory with DVD content in my videos path – it recognizes it and plays it as DVD – with menues, etc

[01:46:11]

ShockValue:

bah this sucks.. great+powerfull frontend.. no digital sound :(

[01:46:56]

J-e-f-f-A:

sloncho: The menus are new with .20 — I think the 'native' 'video_ts' support is new too...

[01:47:46]

sloncho:

J-e-f-f-A: my mythtv machine id both fronend (connected to my HDTV with HDMI) and backend with one PVR250. 2x700 PIII / 256RAM. Works OK. sometime skips frames during playback, when heavy loaded (i.e. transcoding) and recording in the same time

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sloncho:

otherwise it's ok

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J-e-f-f-A:

kormoc: me too... Although if I build a new backend I'll probably put 2GB in it... With dual-core too... (Running Dual PIII 866 now)

[01:48:38]

mithasdf:

anyone else experience the 5x FFW problem with the pvr-350 under mythtv 0.20?

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sloncho:

anyone using suse here, and compiled .20? mythgalery wants libXmu, and there is no such lib in my repos

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kormoc:

mithasdf, might want to try the mailing list

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kormoc:

sloncho, so go get it from the web?

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J-e-f-f-A:

sloncho: My backend can't play HD... I have a 1Ghz frontend w/512 that plays it, just barely, without skipping.

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sloncho:

kormoc: I'll do. but still – the config script did not complain :(

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kormoc:

sloncho, well, post a bug about it, cause that's a broken config script then

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J-e-f-f-A:

xris: You around tonite?

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esoteric|laptop:

hrm I ran an apt-cache policy and the candidate is still 0.19 :/

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sloncho:

J-e-f-f-a: I did not tried mine to play HDTV as well, I have no HDTV tuner. But I do output to my TV, in 1366x768 res. Thats what I meant to play on HDTV

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sloncho:

kormoc, will do

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J-e-f-f-A:

sloncho: I'm running a 20" pc monitor in my bedroom at 1152x864 (highest the monitor supports iirc), and hidef looks stunning... Even with your nose against the monitor!!! ;-)

[01:52:39]

sloncho:

till the end of the year I'll consider upgrades and HDTV tuner – anyway all broacasts will be digital after that :)

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esoteric|laptop:

anyone running mythtv on fedora?

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Blargly:

what does "uncompressing linux.... crc error system halting" mean

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sphing:

total random guess... but your kernel is corrupt?

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kormoc:

it means when it attempted to uncompress the compressed kernel image, it was corrupt

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Blargly:

:(

[01:57:09]

Blargly:

i just installed from a knoppmyth cd

[01:57:17]

Blargly:

could it be my harddrive?

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kormoc:

sure

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kormoc:

or cdrom drive or cd

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kormoc:

or memory, or cpu, or motherboard

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sloncho:

hmmm, I do have libXmu ... why it complains is out of my mind. I have the devel as well

[01:57:39]

Blargly:

lol

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Blargly:

it could be anything?

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J-e-f-f-A:

esoteric|laptop: Yep... me ... FC4 w/myth .19

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kormoc:

yeah

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Blargly:

whys that

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kormoc:

it could be a lot of things at this point

[01:57:59]

Blargly:

it was working 10 min ago

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kormoc:

they're all involved in the process?

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esoteric|laptop:

J-e-f-f-A, you gonna upgrade to 0.20?

[01:58:30]

Blargly:

....

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Blargly:

your not a very helpful person are you

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J-e-f-f-A:

esoteric|laptop: Eventually, but my system is working near-perfect now, so I'm going to experiment with a 'test bed' first...

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Blargly:

oh well

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kormoc:

Blargly, honestly, there's not much more to help with. You can run memtest and chcek your ram, you could get a new knopmyth cd...

[01:59:51]

J-e-f-f-A:

I was going to tell him to run memtest86 too... too late...

[02:02:25]

sloncho:

hey, does someone know how to add a path for libs in the make process of the plugins? gallery fails because it can not find libXmu. It is installed, but not in the paths I see in the ld line with -L param. So I need to add the right path. Do I need to change the configure script, or the make script, or I can pass a param (prefered)

[02:02:28]

esoteric|laptop:

J-e-f-f-A, my system is now back in working order, had some issues with it, but I am finally getting it under control (database corruption etc..)

[02:04:31]

J-e-f-f-A:

esoteric|laptop: What a coincidence... I had to re-build my system recently too... My OS hdd died... It's back about 99% to where it was before — I had tweaked some of the mythweb pages to integrate mythstreamTV better. got that about 1/2 done again now...

[02:04:56]

esoteric|laptop:

mythstreamtv?

[02:05:39]

esoteric|laptop:

I just use the default streaming capability, but thats cool

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J-e-f-f-A:

esoteric|laptop: Yeah, it's an 'unofficial' plugin that was written for .18, and 'patched' for .19. It uses VLC to do real-time transcoding for streaming over the web. Pretty slick, lets me watch myth programs anywhere... ;-)

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J-e-f-f-A:

esoteric|laptop: IIRC, mythstream lets you play streaming content from the internet. MythStreamTV lets you stream videos to the internet... ;-)

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esoteric|laptop:

how can I clear the jobs from the jobs queue?

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J-e-f-f-A:

esoteric|laptop: Sorry – dunno — never had the urge to do that! ;-)

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J-e-f-f-A:

esoteric|laptop: I have thought about .20 though — for things like MythArchive, the uPnP support (I bought a D-link media player on clearance), and all the other goodies....

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esoteric|laptop:

yeah I want mytharchive, thats why I want to upgrade

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esoteric|laptop:

I am trying to decide if I want to risk upgrading to fc4 or fc5

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esoteric|laptop:

I am still running fc3

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Esotericisms:

how can I tell the mythbackend to start processing the job queue again?

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Esotericisms:

nm, it finally started

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moxjake:

Using mythtv 0.20, ivtv 0.7.0 kernel 2.6.17, I have a PVR-500 & an pcHDTV5500, the HD card works fine, when I switch to the PVR-500 the screen goes blank, PVR 500 works in mplayer fine mythbackend errors: http://rafb.net/paste/results/QxFlbq38.html

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Esotericisms:

404

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opello:

http://rafb.net/paste/results/QxFIbq38.html (typo, I (bit i) not l (little L)

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opello:

)

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moxjake:

thanks

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moxjake:

I'm not running IRC on the myth box, visual copy/paste was required

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opello:

not a problem, wish i knew the answer to yours

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moxjake:

heh, yeah I just got the two cards to play nice with each other, but mythtv isn't being helpful now

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opello:

funny story, i've got a pvr500 using ivtv 0.3.2n using 0.18.1 and i don't want to upgrade, heh

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Esotericisms:

is it safe to upgrade mythtv from 0.19 to 0.20 on a fedora core 3 system?

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moxjake:

hmm, looks like my problem might be a 64-bit bug in the v4l2 API

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adante:

say um in mythweb

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adante:

in the recorded programs screen

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adante:

you can untick the auto-expire for recordings

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adante:

how do you actually apply/submit that action?

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Kazan:

ok... i'm totally confused

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Kazan:

i cannot get the music in my mythMusic playlist in the order I want

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Kazan:

nor does it seem to be in an order that really makes sense

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Kazan:

the pressing spacebar to get an order editor diesn't seem to work

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skizo1:

i just upgraded to release 0.20 and at the same time added an additional card (pvr150, first card is pvr350)... when i go to mythtv-setup and cycle thru the card types i don't see the MPEG-2 encoder types (MPEG-2 Encoder card (PVR-250, PVR-350) there... it was there before the upgrade and new card install – it's what my pvr350 was set as

[03:15:29]

gordonjl:

hi, all. I'm walking through a virgin install of mythtv on ubuntu dapper. I'm using the instructions found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186747 . I'm stumbling on "apt-get install dialog". I'm told the package isn't available. Can someone help me out with what to do?

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gordonjl:

this is .19, should I try for 2.0? Is this doable on dapper with a pvr 350?

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Kazan:

skizo1: make sure ivtv support was coded in

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skizo1:

Kazan: ahh, is that a new config option with 0.20?

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gordonjl:

nevermind, apt-get update fixed it

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sai2:

hmmm... so I have rebuilt the seektable, and that didn't help with my problem. It looks like it is calculating positions in the video stream based on the wrong frame rate. Is there somewhere there is a value that I should be changing?

[03:20:29]

sai2:

(this only started happening when I switch from 0.16 to 0.19)

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skizo1:

Kazan: yeah, the ivtv configure option was not enabled when mythtv was built

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sai2:

just to clarify: I have this problem where pushing skip forward or back skips to the wrong place in the video stream, and the further I go forward before skipping, the further out it gets.

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sai2:

anybody have any suggestions?

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skizo1:

Kazan: thanks

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ack_f0o:

paladine: you about?

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ack_f0o:

kormoc: looks like I can _not_ use coax *(tuner) input on my pvrx50 with an external box... =(

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hobophobe:

What can be done to increase transcoding time? Lower quality?

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hobophobe:

(err, make transcoding time less)

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sai2:

lower res seems to make a big difference to transcoding time for me

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sai2:

quality, not so much

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hobophobe:

ah

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hobophobe:

480^2 isn't that big of res, hm

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sai2:

no :)

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hobophobe:

I just (first trial) am transcoding a 1hr program to see if it works and see how it does, but it's probably been 2.5 hrs so far

[03:31:05]

sai2:

if you're transcoding a lot of stuff, you can farm it off to other machines to happen in parallel or on faster machines

[03:31:32]

sai2:

ouch... that's quite a long time.

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hobophobe:

probably my transcode settings need tweaking

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sai2:

My machine isn't super fast, but it transcodes at full res in about 1:1 time

[03:32:05]

CCFL_Man_:

hmm..

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hobophobe:

Yeah it is, I know with VLC it would have done it in substantially less so I must have some problem setting (This is 2.1ghz box with 1gig ram)

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Paladine:

I have a fast machine and am transcoding at 2:1 :(

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sai2:

Full res for me is 720x576 too

[03:32:46]

Paladine:

I am currently transcoding at 720x400 (16:9)

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hobophobe:

I'd quit this and try again but it's close to done so I want to get a look at the file

[03:33:34]

Paladine:

infact a lot more than 2:1

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sai2:

For stuff I really don't care much about, dropping to half the number of vertical lines is usually okay. That's VCD resolution.

[03:33:47]

Paladine:

49 minute episode of 24 took me 3.5 hours to transcode

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hobophobe:

I'm transcoding the news (old news at that) just because I can afford it to mess up :oP

[03:35:07]

Paladine:

I am transcoding dvd>mpeg4

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Honk^away:

Paladine: ouch =)

[03:35:51]

Honk^away:

what kind of system are you running? =)

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Honk^away:

celeron 500? =)

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Paladine:

amd64 3700+ San Diego with 2GB RAM

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Honk^away:

2 hours / hour is pretty ok for that hardware =)

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Paladine:

I am getting more like 4h per hour

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Honk^away:

more like 5.3 ;)

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Paladine:

no

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Honk^away:

oh wait.. 49, not 40

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Paladine:

:p

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hobophobe:

It says 10fps on the job

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Paladine:

that 2 pass xvid4 with quality setting 6 (maximum)

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Honk^away:

d'oh =)

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Honk^away:

aw well.. i guess it's no problem if you've got a pc with spare time =)

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hobophobe:

But I will try other things and next time do practice runs on smaller videos :o)

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Paladine:

I get 20fps on the first pass and 10fps on the second

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Honk^away:

use the cluster thingy ;)

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hobophobe:

I was going to ask about that Honk, is it possible to schedule transcoding for say, while I'm not home or while I'm asleep, etc.?

[03:40:42]

Honk^away:

errh.. you can do that manually ;)

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Honk^away:

killall

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Honk^away:

STOP and CONT

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Paladine:

who you calling a cont?

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hobophobe:

I may just not worry about transcoding except for things I plan on keeping on a longer term basis

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Honk^away:

doesnt mythtv have some feature for transcoding? *shrug*

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Honk^away:

i'm new to this too =)

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Paladine:

Honk^away, dvd::rip works really well for ripping single episodes off tv show dvds

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Paladine:

and the output quality is superb

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Honk^away:

yeah, i used it too =)

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Honk^away:

and i really love the cluster mode ;)

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Paladine:

my laptop runs windows and doesn't have cygwin installed so no perl

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Paladine:

my dual athlon MP needs life breathinginto it

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Paladine:

and my other two boxes are at the inl laws

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Honk^away:

inl laws?

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Honk^away:

athlon mp sounds good for transcoding though ;)

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Paladine:

missus parents (in laws)

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hobophobe:

2.2gb->768mb isn't bad

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Honk^away:

oh :)

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Honk^away:

mhh.. anyway..

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Honk^away:

time to get some sleep =)

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Paladine:

I am going from 1.7GB > 500MB

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hobophobe:

So the 480x480 is actually dumb since that's not the original size..hmm

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ho_9:

anyone know what this means in the mythfrontend log: QInputContext: cannot create input context for non-toplevel widgets

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Paladine:

I'm doing 720x400

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hobophobe:

Media players list the original as 480x480, but it's not..strange.

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hobophobe:

Time to see how fast VLC transcodes the same file

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hobophobe:

It'll be less than 20 minutes for same file it looks like

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Paladine:

how long did the last one take andin what app?

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hobophobe:

Last one took close to 3 hours, using whatever myth uses for mpeg4

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hobophobe:

Okay, took it ~14 minutes, now to see the quality

[04:19:08]

ShockValue:

anyone have a USB soundcard that works for ac3 passthrough?

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defaultro:

anyone seen xris?

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Paladine:

earlier

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defaultro:

oh ok

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defaultro:

i have a question regarding his mythweb

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defaultro:

in his earlier version, I remember that I was able to modify the video url variable. I can't find it anymore

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Paladine:

shame about the OS

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RyeBrye3:

FC?

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Paladine:

yeah

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Paladine:

redhat POS

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RyeBrye3:

I'm just looking for an easy install...

[04:44:09]

RyeBrye3:

KnoppMyth's install claims to be easy – but imho it is really bad (in that it wouldn't work, and tried to reformat already formatted partitions... etc)

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Spicerun:

I have a problem with mythwelcome....It keeps showing me that a user has locked the system, and that it is transcoding and other stuff...but none of that is running. I'm having to start mythfrontend instead. Anyone know what I have to fix to get mythwelcome to behave?

[04:55:44]

Spicerun:

Obviously mythwelcome refuses to start mythfrontend because it thinks it is locked. This is on mythtv-0.20a.

[04:56:29]

Paladine:

you know you are bored when you start using your solder sucker to make funny circular patterns on your cheek

[04:58:50]

monkeypet:

Paladine: Umm, no!

[04:59:22]

Paladine:

dude I am soooo bored

[04:59:30]

Paladine:

it is 6am

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monkeypet:

Paladine: only 10pm here...

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Paladine:

wish I was on the west coast

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hobophobe:

It doesn't look like there are good transcoding options (yet at least)

[05:00:47]

hobophobe:

maybe I'm just not using a high enough bitrate for the out

[05:00:58]

spitfireaus:

Hi, I've had a good search on the mailing list but am still having slow menu issues on 0.20. I'm on an AMD64 2600 with Qt Menu rendering.

[05:01:19]

spitfireaus:

When the frontend first starts up everything seems fine

[05:01:32]

monkeypet:

spitfireaus: Disable opengl?

[05:01:33]

Paladine:

tried disabling opengl?

[05:01:38]

Paladine:

gmta

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monkeypet:

Paladine: I beat you to it?? you sleepy?

[05:01:50]

spitfireaus:

but after watching tv live tv or a recording for a while when i go back to the menu it's really slow

[05:01:55]

Paladine:

I typed more than you

[05:02:03]

monkeypet:

Paladine: lol.

[05:02:15]

spitfireaus:

monkeypet: I've got my setting set to Render using QT

[05:02:47]

spitfireaus:

But i also have the same problem if I disable OpenGL using the command line flag

[05:03:06]

Paladine:

dude I am sat here whistling "I love you just the way you are" I must be really really really bored

[05:03:21]

monkeypet:

spitfireaus: How much cpu is your frontend using?

[05:03:22]

spitfireaus:

My graphics card is very crappy, It doesn't even seem to load if i enable OpenGL so i'm pretty sure that's not it

[05:03:30]

spitfireaus:

When idoling?

[05:03:36]

** spitfireaus checks **

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monkeypet:

spitfireaus: yeah?

[05:03:55]

monkeypet:

Paladine: I think I am addicted to the internet...

[05:04:25]

spitfireaus:

hrm

[05:04:36]

monkeypet:

spitfireaus: Did you upgrade using atrpm??

[05:04:44]

spitfireaus:

well the frontend isn't being listed in top, but the menu's are ok atm

[05:04:48]

Paladine:

monkey, if you think you are addcted you are not

[05:04:55]

spitfireaus:

Naa compiled from source

[05:04:58]

Paladine:

because everyone knows the first rule of addiction is denial

[05:05:04]

monkeypet:

spitfireaus: Did you enable optimization?

[05:05:09]

Paladine:

which is why I am not addicted to the intternet andhaven't been for 15 years

[05:05:15]

spitfireaus:

Not explicitly?

[05:05:22]

spitfireaus:

Should I need to?>

[05:05:26]

spitfireaus:

It seemed to detect my cpu ok

[05:05:36]

monkeypet:

spitfireaus: I don't know...

[05:05:54]

monkeypet:

spitfireaus: Did you remove your capture card and recreate it in mythsetup?

[05:06:03]

spitfireaus:

Oh no

[05:06:11]

spitfireaus:

monkeypet: just let mythtv upgrade my db

[05:06:22]

spitfireaus:

but live tv is working fine

[05:06:35]

spitfireaus:

it's only the menu's are really slow at times

[05:06:43]

monkeypet:

spitfireaus: I have seen problems with that in 2 upgrades that I did, but I don't know if it is related..

[05:06:51]

monkeypet:

spitfireaus: Worth a shot, I guess.

[05:06:56]

spitfireaus:

with you menus?

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spitfireaus:

you = your

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monkeypet:

spitfireaus: No, it wasn't recording and did weird stuff...

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spitfireaus:

monkeypet: hrm fair enough

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monkeypet:

spitfireaus: what distro you using?

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spitfireaus:

monkeypet: ubuntu

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monkeypet:

spitfireaus: kernel?

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spitfireaus:

monkeypet: Linux ice 2.6.15-27-amd64-k8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:57:42 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux

[05:08:42]

JohnQ:

I'm still using 0.19 since I havent had a time to do an upgrade.. is there a way to correct a *slight* audio/videual synchronization problem? The audio just just ever so slightly behind the video.

[05:09:03]

spitfireaus:

monkeypet: Unfortunately I've got to run now, but thanks for you help!

[05:09:15]

monkeypet:

JohnQ: there is no option in the frontend?

[05:09:46]

JohnQ:

Not that I have seen... but I havent explored the *entire* maze of menus..

[05:10:06]

monkeypet:

JohnQ: I thought i saw one in my 0.20.

[05:10:16]

monkeypet:

JohnQ: Why don't you upgrade?

[05:10:37]

JohnQ:

Just havent had the time. I probably will in a few weeks.

[05:11:45]

monkeypet:

Paladine: want to do the netmeeting aka ekiga with me?

[05:11:54]

monkeypet:

Paladine: I don't know how to work it.

[05:11:59]

Paladine:

ekiga?

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Paladine:

monkeypet, apparantly mythphone already does what I wanted

[05:12:24]

monkeypet:

Paladine: Yeah...

[05:12:48]

monkeypet:

Paladine: I want to try out ekiga... but I don't know anyone who uses it.

[05:13:14]

Paladine:

Ineed to find a way to haXor my USB webcams first

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monkeypet:

Paladine: Nah, let's just connect...

[05:13:52]

monkeypet:

Paladine: I don't have a webcam or mic connected.. I just want to set it connect.

[05:13:58]

monkeypet:

Paladine: set/see.

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Paladine:

am transcoding atm dude

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Paladine:

hense why I am bored

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monkeypet:

Paladine: Ummm, don't you sleep?

[05:14:24]

Paladine:

giving all my cpu to dvd::rip

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Paladine:

monkey, not frequantly now

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Paladine:

s/now/know

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Paladine:

s/know/no

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Paladine:

I generally live a 4 day week

[05:15:05]

Paladine:

andsleep an average of 15 hours a week

[05:15:14]

Paladine:

I havea disorder

[05:16:13]

Paladine:

some would argue I -am- a disorder

[05:16:17]

Paladine:

but meh, what do they know

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monkeypet:

Paladine: how do I find people on ekiga?

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Paladine:

I will finish this transcode, then go do the washing up then go play with my son for a couple of hours, then maybe sleep for 2 or 3 hours then start all over again

[05:17:47]

Paladine:

monkeypet, I have never used it so Ihave no idea

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PapaG:

Hi, please help a noob with knoppmyth, it hangs with a screen that says General. a bar at 50% in the middle and Channel Editor at the bottom

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Paladine:

another successful rip :)

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monkeypet:

Paladine: Hm, I found the directory and started to call random people, no one picked up...

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RyeBrye3:

Is the svideo out on an ATI Radeon 7500 good enough for MythTV?

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GemaRaste:

hello

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GemaRaste:

so is there anybody here that knows why I'm getting a segmentation fault when i start mythfrontend?

[05:40:51]

GemaRaste:

SIP: listening on IP address .... Nat address .... SIP: Cannot register; proxy, username or password not set

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ish:

I've finally got my overscan settings and resolution so my livetv playback looks just like it does with my normal cable feed.

[05:43:08]

ish:

However, the edges of the myth gui now cross into the outside edges of the tv, is there a way to add a padding to that?

[05:43:15]

ish:

margins or something?

[05:43:19]

RyeBrye3:

My tuner card hasn't arrived yet... Can I install MythTV and rip DVD's... etc. into it and then configure my tuner later -or is it better to wait?

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Paladine:

you should be able to install it without any problems

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RyeBrye3:

thanks

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Paladine:

but you probably wantto wait as you will want to enable ivtv

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RyeBrye3:

I can't enable ivtv without the cards installed?

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RyeBrye3:

or card that is

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Paladine:

you probably can but I don't know

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Paladine:

try and see

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RyeBrye3:

k

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GemaRaste:

mmm I got it

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Paladine:

at the very least it will be a learning excercise

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RyeBrye3:

:D

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GemaRaste:

w00t

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GemaRaste:

that was a random, nothing to do with mythtv fix to fix my mythtv problem

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RyeBrye3:

?

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GemaRaste:

I was having a weird error

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GemaRaste:

SIP listening on IP Address :5060 NAT address

[05:48:24]

GemaRaste:

SIP: Cannot register; proxy, username or password not set

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GemaRaste:

and it was because I didn't have my mythtv user set to allow remote desktop connections

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RyeBrye3:

strange

[05:50:22]

RyeBrye3:

oh well

[05:50:26]

RyeBrye3:

I'm off to bed

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sloncho:

hi. how do I change the font for divx/xvid subtitles (sub, srt, ...). I'm using the internal player to play the files. It finds the .srt file in the directory and if I enable the CC, it displays them. The problem is that I need a cyrillic font, but in the setup I can only choose between FreeSans.ttf and FreeMono.ttf. I have the right ttf font (unicode) which I want to use instead of these 2....

[05:50:28]

sloncho:

...So, how I change this?

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AlefBet:

I'm using MythTV 0.18.1 and I have a question.

[06:08:27]

AlefBet:

I know it's an old version, but I had problems with 0.19 and 0.20 isn't stable on Gentoo yet.

[06:08:59]

AlefBet:

Does anyone know how to rebuild the database information for a recording if you replace a corrupted recording with a correct one?

[06:09:18]

AlefBet:

I had a program that only recorded 5 minutes, but I had another myth box that got it all.

[06:09:58]

AlefBet:

After moving the .nuv file (actually a .mpeg since the other box is 0.19), I can watch the whole program but I can only skip around in the first 5 minutes.

[06:10:06]

AlefBet:

Maybe no one is here, though.

[06:10:35]

AlefBet:

I tried mythcommflag --rebuild --file and it didn't fix it.

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AlefBet:

Maybe if I use mythcommflag --video ?

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JohnQ:

Has anyone upgraded from 0.19 to 0.20 using apt-get on debian? Is it as painless as it should be? It will preserve the recorded shows, preferences, config, etc?

[06:16:44]

AlefBet:

Sorry, I can't help. I use Gentoo.

[06:17:00]

AlefBet:

I don't think very many people are on right now.

[06:17:09]

AlefBet:

(Otherwise I'd shut up, since I'm no help.)

[06:17:11]

hads:

Is .20 in Debian?

[06:17:46]

monkeypet:

JohnQ: Backup the db before you upgrade.

[06:18:03]

hads:

Backup the DB every day :)

[06:18:14]

AlefBet:

.20 is in Gentoo testing.

[06:18:37]

AlefBet:

Amen to the backup thing. I have a cron job for that and it's been useful when I start to tinker.

[06:18:48]

JohnQ:

it appears to be in debian... there's a libmyth-0.20 package...

[06:19:15]

JohnQ:

I assume its just a dump of the endire db in the normal mysql way?

[06:19:26]

AlefBet:

Backup?

[06:19:32]

AlefBet:

You want me to read you my cron job?

[06:19:48]

AlefBet:

mysqldump -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg | gzip -9 > "$HOME/mythbackups/mythdb_$(date +%a).sql.gz"

[06:20:37]

AlefBet:

Now you know my MythTV mysql password, but fortunately you don't have local access to my machine.

[06:21:00]

monkeypet:

johnQ: just copy the entire /var/lib/...mysql subdir...

[06:21:35]

JohnQ:

thanks

[06:21:36]

AlefBet:

That works too, although it gets more than just MythTV and it's not human readable if something goes partly wrong.

[06:21:49]

monkeypet:

AlefBet: Agreed...

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AlefBet:

Anyway, mythcommflag --video didn't work for my problem. Does anyone have any other suggestions?

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monkeypet:

AlefBet: What is your problem?

[06:28:36]

AlefBet:

I had a program that only recorded 5 minutes.

[06:28:53]

AlefBet:

But my other Myth box (the one I'm building for my parents) copied the whole thing.

[06:29:11]

AlefBet:

I copied the mpeg file from the one box to the other, so I can watch the whole thing in the first box.

[06:29:22]

AlefBet:

But skipping around with arrow keys only skips in the first five minutes.

[06:29:33]

AlefBet:

Is there a way to rebuild the skipping info for the whole program?

[06:30:14]

AlefBet:

I tried mythcommflag --rebuild --file, --rebuild --video, --file, and --video. But skipping is still off.

[06:30:36]

AlefBet:

(Shouldn't have tried to skip back 6 seconds after watching 45 minutes of program. :$)

[06:30:37]

monkeypet:

AlefBet: Oh, you mean commercial skipping.

[06:30:45]

AlefBet:

Arrow key skipping.

[06:31:07]

AlefBet:

MythTV still thinks the recording itself is 4:50 long.

[06:31:19]

AlefBet:

So if I try to skip forward 30 seconds, it jumps back to 4:50.

[06:31:26]

monkeypet:

AlefBet: Oh, I think we can modify the db.

[06:31:33]

monkeypet:

AlefBet: Let me check....

[06:31:36]

AlefBet:

I'm using 0.18.1, by the way.

[06:31:45]

AlefBet:

What do I do?

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monkeypet:

AlefBet: There is a progstart,progend field in the db.

[06:33:41]

monkeypet:

AlefBet: First backup your db.

[06:34:06]

AlefBet:

Backing up now.

[06:34:25]

AlefBet:

Done.

[06:34:36]

monkeypet:

AlefBet: Start mysql

[06:34:52]

AlefBet:

Okay.

[06:35:01]

AlefBet:

use mythconverg?

[06:35:02]

monkeypet:

AlefBet: use the mythconverg db.

[06:35:13]

monkeypet:

AlefBet: do you know the title?

[06:35:48]

AlefBet:

I know the program name, the episode name, and the file name.

[06:35:50]

MissActek:

Does anyone know a program for playing x264 encoded files?

[06:36:06]

monkeypet:

AlefBet: select title,starttime,endtime,progstart,progend,basename from recorded where title like '%Best of Joy%';

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monkeypet:

AlefBet: replace "Best of Joy" with your title.

[06:37:32]

AlefBet:

Unknown column 'progstart' in 'field list'

[06:37:59]

monkeypet:

AlefBet: describe recorded;

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AlefBet:

http://students.cs.byu.edu/~adampete/table_description.txt

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monkeypet:

AlefBet: Look for any interesting fields that might have time or duration.

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monkeypet:

AlefBet: starttime,endtime

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monkeypet:

AlefBet: try that query again.

[06:40:08]

AlefBet:

I see starttime and endtime.

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AlefBet:

The others don't look relevant to me, but I don't know their whole meanings of course.

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andruk:

in the mythtv-faq install howto for ubuntu (dapper drake – what im using – kernel 2.6.15-27–386), there is a command "sudo make @@ sudo make install" bash throws the error that no target for make was found, and no makefile was found, any suggestions/links? thanks in advance

[07:43:41]

andruk:

er, that && not @@

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AlefBet:

I don't use ubuntu for MythTV, so I might not be able to help.

[07:45:10]

AlefBet:

But is there a file called "Makefile" in the current directory?

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andruk:

AlefBet: yes

[07:46:08]

AlefBet:

What do you get when you type "pwd ; sudo pwd"?

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andruk:

AlefBet: *smacks forehead*

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andruk:

AlefBet: nah, i think it found it. forgot to cd into the directory im in the directory above it

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AlefBet:

That would do it.

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andruk:

AlefBet: thx anyway...i feel every bit of the n00b i am...dang it

[07:47:46]

AlefBet:

Little things get you all the time.

[07:47:54]

AlefBet:

Especially annoying when it's something you know you know.

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andruk:

AlefBet: Yeah. That's why GUIs are important, they let you see where you are instead of reading through bash scripts to figure out whats wrong

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andruk:

AlefBet: it worked, but it threw "Error 2" do you know where i can go to find out how serious that is?

[07:49:36]

AlefBet:

You can tear my Bash from my cold, dead flippers, but I know that graphical shells do a lot of people well.

[07:50:17]

AlefBet:

I don't know offhand. It may not be standardized, though.

[07:50:19]

andruk:

AlefBet: bash is very useful, because GUIs dont implement editing stuff as root well

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andruk:

ill just see how it goes...

[07:50:39]

AlefBet:

Yeah, especially Linux shells. Windows is starting to get it.

[07:50:55]

AlefBet:

I like Bash for how easy it is to automate things.

[07:51:18]

AlefBet:

GUIs are harder to repeat actions over again and save for later.

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andruk:

lol, well, yeah, if you want to get asked 15 times if your the admin just to remove a million registry keys

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andruk:

tru dat homes

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AlefBet:

It's nice to be able to throw up a quick for loop if I need to rename 300 files in the current directory.

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AlefBet:

Not for the faint hearted, though. One mistake and you've got 300 files to fix.

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andruk:

true, you have to go through macros carp in guis to do that, and omg, amen to that

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andruk:

do you know if this is a valid command: wget ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/wintv-...0.24.23035.zip

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andruk:

its here: its in this howto: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Ubuntu

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AlefBet:

If you have wget installed, it should be valid.

[07:54:02]

JohnQ:

assuming you have wget installed...

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andruk:

i think i do

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andruk:

even with the "..."

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andruk:

?

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AlefBet:

That's up to the server where the files are being retrieved from.

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JohnQ:

depends what the file is actually called.. it might actually be correct.

[07:55:27]

AlefBet:

It's not. I just clicked on the link and got a no such file error.

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andruk:

oh, okay, so the server just searches through its directories and sends me the file without me knowing where exactly its coming from? is that a security idea? schweet

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AlefBet:

Possible the walkthrough wants you to replace the ellipsis with something from above?

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andruk:

dont think so...

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AlefBet:

Anything you put on an ftp server is fair game.

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andruk:

so ftp will essentially accept anybody (although you can pw-protect directories and stuff?)?

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JohnQ:

which type of card are you trying to use?

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andruk:

Hauppage PVR-500

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AlefBet:

You can put things in directories that require a login, but that's less common these days.

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AlefBet:

FTP is mostly used for anonymous access.

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andruk:

ah

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AlefBet:

For someone with a login, ssh and scp are better, simpler choices.

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JohnQ:

go here: ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/wintv-pvr_150-5 . . . 24.23035.zip

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AlefBet:

It looks like the URL depends on your card type.

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andruk:

much thanks JohnQ (Public?) oh.

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JohnQ:

and now... I run out to get some food... one cannot upgrade to 0.20 on an empty stomach.

[08:00:50]

andruk:

lol

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AlefBet:

Good luck with 0.20. I'm waiting for it to go stable on Gentoo.

[08:01:37]

andruk:

it cant connect to the ftp server

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andruk:

the one JohnQ gave

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AlefBet:

Odd. I was able to go there a few minutes ago.

[08:02:06]

AlefBet:

I get in fine.

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JohnQ:

worked for me... must be you :-)

[08:02:25]

AlefBet:

Do you have the same problem if you paste the link into firefox?

[08:02:36]

AlefBet:

I get a download-file dialog.

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andruk:

fx is taking a long time (bash just timed out to it) and gftp is not able to even look it up

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AlefBet:

Odd. I got it almost instantly.

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andruk:

oh

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andruk:

i might know the problem

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monkeypet:

In 0.20 where is the option to enable browse mode when channel surfer instead of directly changing the channels.

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AlefBet:

Figured it out, andruk?

[08:10:18]

andruk:

not sure...

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AlefBet:

If you still need it, I copied what I downloaded to here: http://students.cs.byu.edu/~adampete/pvr_2.0.24.23035.zip

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nuonguy:

/join #winehq

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andruk:

hmmm

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andruk:

i killed my special firewall blocking stupid people who want to limit my rights to do what i please with my music...and i still cant connect to it

[08:21:04]

Pete__:

Is there a way to change the openGL transition effect, similar to how you can with mythGallery in 0.20?

[08:24:33]

andruk:

AlefBet: not i cant even get to google.com...this is interesting, i didnt think i had killed my internet connection...

[08:24:52]

andruk:

AlefBet: if you can hear this, mssg me back

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andruk:

wtf AlefBet: this is weird...

[08:26:41]

JohnQ:

You didnt.

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andruk:

JohnQ thank you

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andruk:

lol

[08:27:01]

andruk:

reassuring

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JohnQ:

pray for me. ... I am about to upgrade :-)

[08:27:15]

andruk:

lol, will do bro

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** AlefBet invokes a moment of silence for JohnQ **

[08:28:41]

JohnQ:

debian is so nice for this stuff... sometimes. if it works... its one command. ... if it doesnt, its weeks of repais.

[08:29:09]

AlefBet:

That's one thing I like about Gentoo. I know it's pretty much always about 20 commands away.

[08:29:24]

AlefBet:

Not one or two, and not 100.

[08:29:38]

AlefBet:

It gets as low as five sometimes :D.

[08:29:44]

JohnQ:

heh

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JohnQ:

debian is always 1.. or 10,000

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AlefBet:

Yeah. I like it for my work machine.

[08:30:12]

JohnQ:

but.. usually 1

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AlefBet:

Ubuntu, actually.

[08:30:19]

AlefBet:

The stuff I do at work is usually anticipated and just works.

[08:30:33]

AlefBet:

For my tinkering boxes, I like a distro I can tie in knots.

[08:33:06]

andruk:

does IRC work through port 80?

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JohnQ:

no

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JohnQ:

usually 6667 .. but not always

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andruk:

okay

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andruk:

i think my port 80 and 21 are blocked...by something...gonna restart and see whats up, so brb

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andruk:

lo?

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JohnQ:

hi

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AlefBet:

Net working again?

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andruk:

80 is

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AlefBet:

That's a good thing.

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AlefBet:

Got the file you need?

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andruk:

ftp port is open...but i cant connect

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AlefBet:

Your ftp port shouldn't matter. It's the server that has to have FTP open.

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andruk:

nah, its not working at all

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andruk:

and its 3am, and i woek tomorrow...

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andruk:

*work

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AlefBet:

Did you try to get the file off the server I put it on?

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andruk:

yeah

[08:59:41]

andruk:

oh

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andruk:

wait

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andruk:

which one was that?

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AlefBet:

http://students.cs.byu.edu/~adampete/pvr_2.0.24.23035.zip

[09:01:59]

andruk:

there we go

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andruk:

thank you very much

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andruk:

erm...got one more in yeh?

[09:02:33]

andruk:

wget ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/wintv-....22254_inf.zip prolly wont work either

[09:03:28]

andruk:

wget ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/wintv-pvr_150-5 . . . 2254_inf.zip prolly wont work either

[09:04:14]

andruk:

lol, wtf? this site wont work just for me? whats up with that?

[09:04:24]

Anduin:

If you are looking for the firmware it is at ivtvdriver.org

[09:05:04]

AlefBet:

You know, that's interesting.

[09:05:22]

AlefBet:

I remember installing a firmware when I first set up these two mythtv boxes 9 months ago.

[09:05:25]

andruk:

i already got that, but thank you...

[09:05:38]

AlefBet:

But I just set this new one up a few days ago and it's working fine.

[09:05:41]

AlefBet:

I never got the firmware.

[09:05:56]

AlefBet:

Do you think Gentoo added it to their ebuild?

[09:06:12]

AlefBet:

I have a 500MCE too.

[09:06:18]

andruk:

huh

[09:06:22]

andruk:

thats weird

[09:07:05]

andruk:

yeah, that site isnt working either...would you mind retrieving that and giving me the link to that file on your ftp server, please?

[09:07:16]

andruk:

you dont have to if you dont want to...

[09:08:03]

andruk:

and the guide im reading says nothing about needing gentoo drivers, etc.

[09:08:12]

AlefBet:

Which version of ivtv are you using?

[09:08:17]

andruk:

er, drivers on gentoo

[09:08:22]

andruk:

0.7.0

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andruk:

wait

[09:10:21]

andruk:

no, i should be using a different version

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AlefBet:

I threw the firmware at students.cs.byu.edu/~adampete/firmware.tar.gz

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andruk:

okay, ill switch to the version im supposed to be using...

[09:10:39]

AlefBet:

That is, http://students.cs.byu.edu/~adampete/firmware.tar.gz

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andruk:

cool, thank you so much

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AlefBet:

Sure.

[09:13:20]

andruk:

AlefBet: so you go to BYU?

[09:13:41]

AlefBet:

Yeah.

[09:13:58]

AlefBet:

For about 10 years now.

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andruk:

which one, and whats your major?

[09:15:13]

AlefBet:

The main one, and I'm working on a PhD in Computer Science.

[09:15:32]

AlefBet:

You want to hear something incredibly stupid?

[09:15:47]

AlefBet:

I just discovered that Gentoo has mythweb 0.20 in stable.

[09:15:58]

AlefBet:

Unfortunately, mythtv is only stable to 0.19.

[09:16:09]

AlefBet:

Which means the default packages you get are incompatible.

[09:16:11]

AlefBet:

Brilliant.

[09:16:31]

AlefBet:

Oh, well. I'll just go in and mask the new mythweb.

[09:16:47]

andruk:

AlefBet: wow, cool about school, uncool about gentoo...

[09:17:37]

AlefBet:

All right, it's compiling now. That ought to fix it in about five minutes or so

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AlefBet:

Another "fun" thing about Gentoo. Everything takes about 10x as longer to install as in other distros.

[09:18:15]

AlefBet:

The price you pay for a source-based distribution.

[09:18:26]

AlefBet:

My field is pretty fun.

[09:18:48]

AlefBet:

Perfect. MythWeb is working now!

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andruk:

yeah, im a sophomore in physics, but im thinking about switching over to CS or doubling...

[09:20:18]

AlefBet:

I heard that the average number of major changes per student is four.

[09:20:35]

AlefBet:

I'm not sure if I believe that, though.

[09:20:39]

AlefBet:

I had one major change.

[09:20:54]

AlefBet:

From Electrical and Computer Engineering to Computer Science.

[09:21:14]

AlefBet:

I found I liked the software and algorithm end of it better than the microshuttling of bits and signals.

[09:21:38]

AlefBet:

The hardware end of it was fun, though. Just not as fun as the algorithm side.

[09:22:39]

JohnQ:

heh small world.. I'm nearly 10 years into my own CS PhD.

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AlefBet:

Where at?

[09:23:05]

JohnQ:

Colordo State

[09:23:19]

JohnQ:

except with an "a" :-)

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andruk:

lol

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AlefBet:

Cool. I used to work for a guy from Denver.

[09:24:01]

andruk:

nah, Colorado School of Mines, hella harder, but a better rep (employers typically add 1 to our GPA)

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JohnQ:

Just saw a presentation from a guy from BYU at ASAP06

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AlefBet:

Do you remember his name?

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JohnQ:

hm.

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andruk:

I have a few friends )EEs nonetheless) at CSU tho

[09:24:41]

mah_meh:

can anyone help with these ? info on google is sketchy at best. it's from a usb2 nova-t

[09:24:41]

mah_meh:

[17272631.648000] dvb-usb: bulk message failed: -22 (2/-225935360)

[09:24:41]

mah_meh:

[17272631.748000] dvb-usb: bulk message failed: -22 (2/642)

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JohnQ:

I have the proceedings here somewhere.. one sec.

[09:26:34]

TakKovacs:

what is the general feeling around 0.20..worth the upgrade ?

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mah_meh:

the dvb improvements are good takkovacs, when my driver works ")

[09:27:13]

JohnQ:

bah... the index page doesnt have schools listed. just names :-/

[09:27:26]

TakKovacs:

thanks mah_meh

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AlefBet:

My feeling is I'm waiting for 0.20 to go stable in Gentoo.

[09:27:45]

TakKovacs:

what mboard are you using mah_meh ?

[09:27:54]

AlefBet:

But that's because it's easy for my Gentoo box.

[09:28:26]

AlefBet:

JohnQ: was he a CS guy? If so, do you remember his topic?

[09:28:46]

TakKovacs:

some seem to say the upgrade is painless but there still seems to be a few bugs out there

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mah_meh:

i did a fresh install so cant comment re; upgrade

[09:30:13]

mah_meh:

theres repositories for ubuntu dapper and edgy, simplified things alot for me ")

[09:30:34]

JohnQ:

Yeah, it was probably a CS guy.. might have been EE.. he was talking about floating point reduction operators in the context of FPGAs... he had some application he was implementing.

[09:30:45]

JohnQ:

I think he was using a SRC-6 machine.

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AlefBet:

Hmm. I recognize some of the work, but I don't think it's any of the guys I work closely with.

[09:31:47]

AlefBet:

I work in Artificial Intelligence.

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AlefBet:

andruk, I'm taking these files off the web server. All good?

[09:33:12]

andruk:

i am good, they are copied over, and i have backups in case i screw something up

[09:33:16]

andruk:

thank you very much!

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AlefBet:

K

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AlefBet:

NP

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JohnQ:

Might have been "Brent Nelson"?

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Juski:

well, today is ubuntu migration day

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JohnQ:

looks like he's ECE actually.

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AlefBet:

Mmm. Yeah, I probably wouldn't know him much then.

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andruk:

im goin to bed, night/morning all, and ty

[09:35:01]

AlefBet:

Qapla' andruk

[09:35:15]

AlefBet:

I'm not far behind.

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Juski:

night andruk

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JohnQ:

I used to be AI, but got switched over to FPGAs..

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JohnQ:

AI is huge here.

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AlefBet:

That's interesting. I wouldn't think there's much overlap.

[09:36:00]

AlefBet:

I work mostly in Machine Learning.

[09:36:15]

JohnQ:

Well.. from AI I got into Vision.. and from there it wa Vision algos on FPGAs.

[09:36:26]

AlefBet:

Yeah, I can see that.

[09:36:28]

JohnQ:

Yeah we have some neural net freaks here too ;-)

[09:36:37]

AlefBet:

Vision is an odd hybrid of high level algorithms and bit shuttling.

[09:36:55]

AlefBet:

I've done a good amount with ANNs, but my current project is a variation on a decision tree.

[09:37:10]

AlefBet:

Although the resulting data structure is no longer strictly a tree.

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JohnQ:

Neat stuff.. our faculty is really AI heavy.

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AlefBet:

How much ML?

[09:38:02]

JohnQ:

One guy is really into it.. and 3 or 4 others are "sorta" into it.

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AlefBet:

Mmm. We have about four labs working on AI type stuff, not including the guys doing vision.

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JohnQ:

we're a very small department.

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AlefBet:

The lab I work for is the Neural Network and Machine Learning lab.

[09:39:20]

AlefBet:

It's nice to be at BYU. The CS department is fairly well funded.

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JohnQ:

I think Ive seen some work come out of it. I seem to remember a NN-based rotation/scale face registration algo from there, no?

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AlefBet:

I'm not sure. That could have been done here.

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AlefBet:

My adviser is pretty derisive of face recognition, though.

[09:40:48]

AlefBet:

He says it's a glorified application.

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Juski:

blimey. installed mythtv 0.20 on dapper last night, well almost... mysql server wasn't a dependency so didn't get installed

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JohnQ:

wasnt recognition... just detection and registration.

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AlefBet:

Mmm.

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AlefBet:

A lot of what we've done in the past has been speech recognition and OCR.

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AlefBet:

That's my lab, though. The other labs probably have done other things.

[09:42:08]

AlefBet:

Intelligent Scissors in Photoshop was worked on here, by the vision guys.

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JohnQ:

Our ML guy here currently has his eye on brain waves and EEGs.. he's got some cool demos where the machine can clasify thoughts. interesting project.

[09:42:35]

AlefBet:

Sounds like a challenge.

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AlefBet:

What learning models is he using, do you know?

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JohnQ:

hes been at it a while.. but its not bad now.

[09:43:13]

JohnQ:

I think its just reinforcement learning and NNs..

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AlefBet:

Interesting. I've heard that using ANNs with Q learning is challenging.

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AlefBet:

He might not be using Q learning, though.

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JohnQ:

Hes got it to the point where you can think about one of 4 mental tasks and it'll correctly identify it like 80% of the time.

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AlefBet:

Reinforcement learning has been stuck on Q learning for too long in a lot of peoples' views.

[09:44:23]

AlefBet:

That's promising.

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AlefBet:

Clearly better than random.

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JohnQ:

Honestly Im not sure whats under the hood.. but the demo is neat to try.

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AlefBet:

I can imagine.

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JohnQ:

woohoo! my mythtv machine just finished downloading its dist-upgrade! Including, (among 315 other things) mythtv 0.20! yaay!

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JohnQ:

now I just hope that it all installs nicely..

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AlefBet:

That's in Edgy?

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JohnQ:

Edgy? You mean Etch?

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AlefBet:

Oh, sorry. Ubuntu on the brain.

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JohnQ:

Dunno.. I'm on sid.

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mythx:

hi all, have somebody experiences with myth+ASUS TV+FM 7135+DVB-T, please?

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AlefBet:

I've never tried Sid. Does it ever bite you?

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JohnQ:

not really.. I mean.. as long as you are willing to poke around a little bit, I find it stable enough for a home machine.. and much more current.

[09:49:16]

AlefBet:

That's good. I actually switched off Etch for Ubuntu Hoary because I was a bit disappointed with the recency of Debian.

[09:49:35]

AlefBet:

But nowadays, testing tends to be a bit more current than Ubuntu's latest release.

[09:49:38]

JohnQ:

sid is painfully recent :-)

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JohnQ:

I have to dist-upgrade every month or so, just so it doesnt get out of hand.

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AlefBet:

I really meant lack of recency, I guess. But Sid always made me a bit uncomfortable.

[09:50:24]

Juski:

bloody hell... now I know what a PITA setting up mythtv on ubuntu is when the 'kiddie' installer script takes over so much

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AlefBet:

Back when I first tried out MythTV I tried setting it up on Ubuntu, but the howtos were pretty flaky for it.

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AlefBet:

No one in the Ubuntu community seemed to have a really good grasp on how to set up a kernel module like IVTV.

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JohnQ:

ya.. that was a little tricky.

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AlefBet:

I settled on Gentoo because at the time the walkthroughs were much more direct and matter-of-fact.

[09:52:13]

JohnQ:

honestly, I had more trouble with lirc

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Juski:

so far I've had to un-set the random mysql password the installer set up, & all kinds of mad stuff

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AlefBet:

Gentoo users tend to be quite familiar with kernel modules.

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AlefBet:

I never did do the lirc stuff.

[09:52:38]

AlefBet:

I have the OEM card, so no IR built in.

[09:52:49]

AlefBet:

And the wireless keyboard seems to do fine for a remote for my family.

[09:52:51]

Juski:

gentoo users tend to be very familiar with commandlines too

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Juski:

;)

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Juski:

oh, morning stuarta

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AlefBet:

This is certainly the case.

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JohnQ:

I boutht a serial ir reciever from a dude in germany. works wonderfully once it works.. ;-)

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stuarta:

Juski: morning

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Juski:

tis d-day today & I'm starting to have 2nd thoughts already

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TakKovacs:

i'm looking for a capture card which can take s-video and spdif input..has anyone seen anything like this ?

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stuarta:

oh go for it....

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Juski:

it's now harder to install mythtv on ubuntu than ever before

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Juski:

stupid freaking "mother" script

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AlefBet:

My MythTV boxes are not the pinnacle of security a Linux machine ought to be, I gotta confess.

[09:54:46]

AlefBet:

Fortunately, they're all behind routers.

[09:55:04]

JohnQ:

yeah.. you pasted your mysql password earlier ;-)

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stuarta:

Juski: if I were you, i'd apt-get build-dep mythtv and build it yourself from source.

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AlefBet:

Yeah, I did.

[09:55:32]

AlefBet:

But you need a local account to use it, plus you need to get past my router.

[09:55:46]

AlefBet:

Still, I noticed what I did after I did it.

[09:55:54]

AlefBet:

I would have redacted the password if I'd noticed in time.

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Juski:

stuarta: planning to do that on the main install. just going for getting it up & running quickly on my spare box so I can get used to running tftp on umbongo

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JohnQ:

Incidentally.. mine has the same password... and is also behind a firewall ;-)

[09:56:41]

AlefBet:

I think that's the default password for a lot of Myth setups.

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JohnQ:

probably. Made it easy to paste

[09:56:58]

AlefBet:

At least the MythTV user has a different password.

[09:57:09]

JohnQ:

heh mine doesnt even have that.

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** AlefBet starts portscanning JohnQ. **

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JohnQ:

my firewall is so friggin restricted..

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Juski:

scanning....

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Juski:

(for channels, that is...)

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AlefBet:

Well, I think I'll say good night to all.

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AlefBet:

Good luck with 0.20.

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JohnQ:

thanks

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JohnQ:

night

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AlefBet:

Qapla'

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Juski:

btw stuarta I've got some bumph about passes for the expo :)

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stuarta:

okay :)

[10:00:45]

Juski:

nice error trapping in 0.20 about the recordings dir not being writable. how long's that been there? ;)

[10:01:12]

stuarta:

dunno...

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Juski:

you'd think after all the times I've done this I could do it in my sleep

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Juski:

argghh. fucking mythtv-backend init script! have the scripts in /contrib changed their names or something?

[10:03:16]

stuarta:

don't believe so....

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Juski:

hrm. I think it might be good for somebody high in the food chain to lay down guidelines for that sort of stuff

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stuarta:

what do you mean?

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Juski:

guidelines on executable naming conventions

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stuarta:

there's the FHS...

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Juski:

stuff's confusing enough for new folks as it is...

[10:06:24]

Juski:

yay livetv worky!

[10:06:38]

JohnQ:

dist-upgrade complete... now I pray.. and reboot.

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Hoxzer:

:D

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Hoxzer:

last time I did upgrade I fixed things like 4 days

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JohnQ:

and I still have an hour before it is supposed to record anything...

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Juski:

I have 9.5 hours...

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JohnQ:

ivtv still loaded... thats one hurdle..

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JohnQ:

doh... X isnt working. thats not good

[10:10:25]

JohnQ:

ah.. need to rebuild ati modules.. not too bad.

[10:13:04]

Juski:

installed themes...

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Juski:

installed tftpd...

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stuarta:

i have 2 days in a row with no scheduled recording... blimey...

[10:13:34]

Juski:

the fun part is gonna be making minimyth work.. there've been a lot of config changes since I last installed minimyth

[10:13:43]

JohnQ:

Yaay! it came up!

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Juski:

stuarta: 2 days? yikes. nothing on, or problems?

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stuarta:

nothing I haven't recorded before :)

[10:14:19]

Juski:

heh

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Juski:

wheeee programme guide is pretty busy

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Juski:

I love EIT sometimes

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JohnQ:

hmm.. absolutly nothing looks different in 0.20 yet..

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JohnQ:

I cant even be sure it IS 0.20 yet.. how unsettling

[10:17:50]

JohnQ:

Time to scan the changelog to see if I can find a new/changed feature.

[10:18:02]

stuarta:

JohnQ: most of the work was behind the scenes

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JohnQ:

there must be *something* different..

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JohnQ:

even something subtle..

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Juski:

opengl menu fades

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Juski:

that's about it

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JohnQ:

they faded before too.. didnt they?

[10:19:43]

Juski:

not in 0.19 they didn't

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Juski:

maybe did if you'd scarfed some LSD :-P

[10:20:52]

JohnQ:

.. I coulda sworn...

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JohnQ:

maybe they just slid off the top of the screen or something.

[10:22:44]

Juski:

no animation in 0.19 or earlier

[10:22:54]

Juski:

no animation to speak of in 0.20 or later either

[10:23:15]

Juski:

I still have mixed feelings about UI animations

[10:23:38]

JohnQ:

I *know* the menus left the screen in some sort of smooth way.

[10:23:49]

Juski:

they never have!

[10:27:34]

Juski:

oh crap. dhcpd config files have changed syntax

[10:32:34]

JohnQ:

YES! the chroma bug in the preview window is fixed!

[10:32:54]

Juski:

was never a problem in my wide theme :)

[10:36:58]

JohnQ:

hmm and CC seems to work all of a sudden.

[10:39:19]

JohnQ:

or rather... not work still... but theres an icon for it ;-)

[10:40:33]

Juski:

CC won't work with pvr150 or pvr500 for a while yet

[10:40:56]

Juski:

my eyes have been opened to how many folks rely on CC

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Juski:

hokay.. I'd been using the wrong dhcp server package

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JohnQ:

ya.. using a pvr-500

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Juski:

CC support is in the CVS ivtv drivers I think

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Juski:

for NTSC at least

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Juski:

stopping production dhcp server

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Juski:

tail -f /var/log/syslog

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Juski:

oops

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Juski:

so that works... now to get tftp working & grab minimyth

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fiveiron:

anyone have probs compiling mythgallery from source?

[11:02:09]

fiveiron:

says some function takes 5 arguments but was passed 6.... :-/

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Juski:

yay tftp server worky

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fivemyth:

videobrowser.cpp:285: error: no matching function for call to â€˜UIImageType::GetSize(bool)â€™

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fivemyth:

thats what I get when I try to compile mythvideo from source

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JohnQ:

my frontend seems to crash once I get to the "finish" button on the appearance settings.

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stuarta:

fivemyth: where did you get your sources from?

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fivemyth:

the svn.mythtv.org server

[11:14:25]

fivemyth:

got the .20 version rather than the trunk

[11:15:24]

fivemyth:

also, I'm getting this when compiling mythgallery:

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stuarta:

both mythtv & mythplugins?

[11:15:31]

fivemyth:

(yes)

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fivemyth:

main.cpp:82:70: error: macro "REG_MEDIA_HANDLER" passed 6 arguments, but takes just 5

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stuarta:

this is weird cause it builds just fine....

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fivemyth:

maybe i'll re-svn the plugins

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fivemyth:

lemme give that a try

[11:18:54]

fivemyth:

or should i just try getting the trunk?

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stuarta:

should work for 0.20 as well

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fivemyth:

brb

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fivemyth:

hrm... is the svn server down?

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stuarta:

hrm...

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stuarta:

nope

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fivemyth:

ah, nm

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fivemyth:

i see

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fivemyth:

brb

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fivemyth:

*sigh*

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fivemyth:

mythweather built fine... lol....

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fivemyth:

well i get this same error on mythdvd and mythvideo:

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fivemyth:

main.cpp:278:67: error: macro "REG_MEDIA_HANDLER" passed 6 arguments, but takes just 5

[11:40:30]

fivemyth:

and very clearly in the code:

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fivemyth:

REG_MEDIA_HANDLER("MythDVD VCD Media Handler", "", "", handleVCDMedia, MEDIATYPE_VCD, QString::null);

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fivemyth:

6 args...

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fivemyth:

maybe if i take out the Qstring::null

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fivemyth:

there's a ticket in for this tho

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stuarta:

do a svn log on the file it's complaining about

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stuarta:

we need to see which changeset broke it...

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fivemyth:

i'm guessing this one:

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fivemyth:

http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/10095

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fivemyth:

since that specifically added the Qstring::null argument to the REG_MEDIA_HANDLER call

[11:52:17]

fivemyth:

hrm...

[11:52:29]

fivemyth:

got rid of that error... but now I'm getting the same one that mythgallery is giving me

[11:54:25]

stuarta:

okay, did you make install mythtv before building the plugins?

[11:54:31]

fivemyth:

yep

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fivemyth:

mythtv works great

[11:54:50]

fivemyth:

even got mythweather compiled and working

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stuarta:

distclean'd the plugins before building it?

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fivemyth:

no

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stuarta:

NOTE: This changes the MYTH_BINARY_VERSION, so plugins must be recompiled and installed after you've installed the updated mythtv libs.

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stuarta:

that's from the changeset...

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fivemyth:

so just "make distclean" in the plugins dir?

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stuarta:

yup. + ./configure; make

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fivemyth:

k

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fivemyth:

lemme go add that qstring::null back into the functions

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fivemyth:

;-P

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sphery:

might want to do an svn revert to make sure you've got it right :)

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fivemyth:

heh

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** stuarta abuses the man with the hedge trimmer outside his window **

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fivemyth:

grr....

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fivemyth:

recordingselector.cpp:22:42: error: mythtv/libmythtv/programinfo.h: No such file or directory

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fivemyth:

that file is in mythtv/libs/libmythtv

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fivemyth:

and thats the output of a make on mytharchive, in case you were curious

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fivemyth:

hmm... adding libs/ didnt work....

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fivemyth:

what is the base dir that the plugins look for mythtv/ in?

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GreyFoxx:

normally /usr/local/mythtv/plugins/

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GreyFoxx:

errr

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GreyFoxx:

normally /usr/local/lib/mythtv/plugins/

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fivemyth:

but i'm building the svn in my home dir

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GreyFoxx:

I'm referring to where the compiled plugins are located

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GreyFoxx:

the mythplugins source is seperate from the mythtv source

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GreyFoxx:

and they don't need to know where each others source is

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fivemyth:

right.... but I'm getting an error in mytharchive saying it cant find mythtv/libmythtv/programinfo.h

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GreyFoxx:

compile and install mythtv first

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fivemyth:

i have

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fivemyth:

its currently running

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GreyFoxx:

it normally the install process installs the headers in /usr/local/include/mythtv/

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GreyFoxx:

which compiling mythplugins should find

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GreyFoxx:

assuming you are messing around with prefix locations and such

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fivemyth:

o i c

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GreyFoxx:

aren't I meant

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fivemyth:

hmmm....

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fivemyth:

there we go... just had to copy that dir over... it wasn't in /usr/local/include/mythtv for some reason

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fivemyth:

ugh, there's a giant storm headed right for us

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degreseven:

is there a way to disable to little movie poster image in mythvideo? i don't have any images & it's just taking up space & being ugly =P

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degreseven:

er, disable *the* little movie poster image

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fivemyth:

cannot find -lmyth-0.20?

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stuarta:

something has gone completely wrong with make install. what on earth did you do?

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fivemyth:

exactly what the instructions said

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fivemyth:

lemme redo myth though

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stuarta:

hrm

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stuarta:

good idea

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mah_meh:

anyone know how i can setup the mythweb myth:// association for windaws ?

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k-man__:

hello

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k-man__:

any idea if you can use marillat's .20 debs with ubuntu?

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mah_meh:

ubuntu edgy will install 0.20 by default

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mah_meh:

and theres a dapper package somewhere from memory

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mah_meh:

deb http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main

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mah_meh:

deb-src http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main

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Sebulba02:

how about 0.20 debs for etch? :)

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stuarta:

marillat

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Sebulba02:

last I saw there were only 0.19

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stuarta:

might not have turned up...

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Sebulba02:

yeah, 0.19–10

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Sebulba02:

or 0.19–0.10 rather, that's weird looking

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k-man__:

mah_meh: are they 0.20?

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Sebulba02:

they were the last time I looked at them (thought of trying to put them on my etch system :)

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k-man__:

crap,it needs libjack

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k-man__:

where do i get libjack from?

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Sebulba02:

Beats me, I don't use ubuntu..

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k-man__:

Sebulba02: nor do i

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k-man__:

i thought it would be a good chance to try it for my mythtv box

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** Sebulba02 shrugs **

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k-man__:

oh, i think its in universe

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mah_meh:

k-man .. yes

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mah_meh:

im running edgy, so i just apt-get'ed mysql

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mah_meh:

then apt-get mythtv, and it was all pretty easy

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mah_meh:

mind u i did a fresh install

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mah_meh:

i had loads of problems until i found an updated nova-t usb2 driver

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mah_meh:

now im just working on streaming ")

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Sebulba02:

oh great

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pyrodex:

anyone know what table holds the recording schedules?

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Juski:

pyrodex: the 'record' table, maybe

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lotia:

folks, will a mini-itx board fit in an atx case?

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Juski:

loita: well, I fitted my mini-itx board in a silverstone lc02 which also takes a full sized atx board

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Juski:

lotia, even :)

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lotia:

oh excellent, thanks juski

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Juski:

speaking of which.. time to see if my epia will boot from my new ubuntu install

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Juski:

pyrodex: the 'record' table, maybe (incase you missed it the 1st time)

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pyrodex:

thanks i found it :)

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Juski:

heheh.. getting there

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kampagnol:

anyone with time to help a gentoo-install semi-bewbie?

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kampagnol:

erm newbie...

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Juski:

just ask. most folks have no time to answer "can I ask" questions :-P

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kampagnol:

having issues with XvMC (apparently) – using recent NVIDIA binary driver

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Juski:

Dibblah: was it you who was asking about minimyth the other day? I'm just going about getting ir worky now

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Juski:

kampagnol: what issues?

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kampagnol:

XvMCTex: Init Failed

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kampagnol:

all I get is black output

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Juski:

kampagnol: which nvidia card do you have?

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Weezey:

Anyone running 0.20? I'm not sure how mine is automatically starting. I had a script in ~/.kde/Autostart/ but now when I boot up and auto-login, it's running two frontends and one of them has a -session in the command line.

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kampagnol:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)

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Weezey:

Also in 0.20 mythweb, I can't get to my recorded programs.

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Juski:

wooo minimyth booteth!

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kampagnol:

(from lspci)

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mah_meh:

juski, you big sql buddy,

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mah_meh:

http://www.myspace.com/110710969

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mah_meh:

whoops

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mah_meh:

damn myspace friends lol

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mah_meh:

lets try that again

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mah_meh:

whats wrong with this sql

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mah_meh:

UPDATE `settings` SET `data` = 'myth:\\tvpc/tv/', `hostname` = NULL WHERE `value` = 'WebVideo_URL' AND `data` = AND `tvpc` IS NULL LIMIT 1 ;

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Juski:

damn myspace full stop

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kampagnol:

Juski: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)

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Juski:

kampagnol: should be ok with xvmc... I dunno where to go from there, sorry

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Weezey:

mah_meh: data =

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Juski:

no need for the back ticks

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Juski:

```````

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Weezey:

Juski: yeah, but it won't work because data has no value

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Juski:

shuck fit... minimyth won't allow shutdown from the menu.. pfft

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mah_meh:

all i need to do is update WebVideo_URL

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kampagnol:

Anyone know how to troubleshoot "XvMCTex: Init Failed" problem?

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Weezey:

mah_meh: \s may only work in " not 's

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Weezey:

mah_meh: but the problem with your SQL above is that data isn't set.

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mah_meh:

oh i see what you mean weezey

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mah_meh:

i stole that line from somewhere on the mythtv site

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scopeuk:

hi all

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Weezey:

what's wrong with the console?

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mah_meh:

my sql is about as good as my .... c"hinese"

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mah_meh:

im sure theres nothing wrong with it

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mah_meh:

all i know so far is the value is webvideo_url under the settings table

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mah_meh:

hit me with some syntax ")

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c4v3m4n:

ok, i've searched google extensively but can't figure out the answer to my issue – which is that i can stream TV just fine using ivtv-tune and mplayer, but mythfrontend keeps reporting a problem

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Weezey:

mah_meh: what are you trying to do?

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mah_meh:

weezy, im using mythweb

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mah_meh:

so i need to update this DB value, so that my gf's laptop can access the recordings.

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mah_meh:

basically samba is running so normally you could update this value with the global settings in mythweb

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mah_meh:

but theres a bug that you cant use that particular character yet with mythweb 0.20

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Juski:

yoyo scopeuk :)

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Weezey:

did you add her IP to the allowed IPs in the mysql access table?

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mah_meh:

i dont need that weezey, because im not using the frontend

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mah_meh:

its all via mythweb

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scopeuk:

hi Juski

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mah_meh:

then the files will be accessed by samba, which works fine

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scopeuk:

all i can say is thank god freenode runs on port 7k also

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mah_meh:

it wont be 'streamed' as such

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scopeuk:

bloody uni filters outgoing irc ports

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mah_meh:

its a known problem weezey

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mah_meh:

look at this page

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mah_meh:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Play_Rec . . . From_MythWeb

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Weezey:

scopeuk: why would they do that? It's an invaluable resource.

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mah_meh:

winmyth sucks, so this is what i want to setup

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Juski:

scopeuk: eeew sucky.

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scopeuk:

Weezey probably becouse of bot net activity

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mah_meh:

vlc etc all works, i just need to update the rewrite that mythweb uses based on that db value

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antiProzac:

I just upgraded my box today to ubuntu 6.06. I am having issues connecting to mysql through qt/mysql libraries. I cannot find them in synaptic like I was able to in Ubuntu 5. I think it was called libqt-my-mysql or something like that. Mythtv compiled and installed fine, which I find weird.

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Juski:

mah_meh: why not forget about winmyth altogether – it's the biggest pile of steaming poo since .NET was invented. then try tapeworm

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antiProzac:

is mythtv ok with mysql 5?

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Juski:

antiProzac: 0.19-fixes onwards is yes

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mah_meh:

juski: ive never intended on using winmyth. my aim is to use mythweb and vlc, look at

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mah_meh:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Play_Rec . . . From_MythWeb

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Juski:

bleh

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antiProzac:

Juski: so I should use mysql 4?

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antiProzac:

nevermind, reread what you said

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antiProzac:

so 5 is ok, since I am using 0.20

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Juski:

am I typing in Swahili today or something?

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antiProzac:

who?

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Weezey:

mah_meh: UPDATE `settings` SET `data` = 'myth:\\MyMythBackend/recordings/', `hostname` = NULL WHERE `value` = 'WebVideo_URL' AND `hostname` IS NULL LIMIT 1 ;

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antiProzac:

Juski: maybe if you slow down a little bit

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Juski:

antiProzac: get off man. cripes.

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antiProzac:

I am getting the lovely "Qsql Error This is Strange"

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c4v3m4n:

antiProzac, have you set your sources.list file to pick up all the 'universe' and 'multiverse' repositories yet?

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mah_meh:

except my host is tvpc, and my share is tv

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mah_meh:

i know that query would be bad ")

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antiProzac:

c4v3m4n: oh, I did not do that step

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antiProzac:

c4v3m4n: thanks for the hint

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Juski:

hrm... think I need to go get the frontend from downstairs for a while

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Weezey:

mah_meh: UPDATE `settings` SET `data` = 'myth:\\MyMythBackend/recordings/', `hostname` = "tvpc" WHERE `value` = 'WebVideo_URL' AND `hostname` = "tvpc" LIMIT 1 ;

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Juski:

ROFLMAO... no opengl for minimyth then... right

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kampagnol:

Anyone know how to troubleshoot "XvMCTex: Init Failed" problem?

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Juski:

kampagnol: might mean mythtv was built without xvmc support?

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Juski:

maybe... I dunno

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Juski:

has the 'shutdown' menu been taken out of 0.20?

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mah_meh:

mysql> UPDATE `settings` SET `data` = 'myth:\\tvpc/tv/', `hostname` = "tvpc" WHERE `value` = 'WebVideo_URL' AND `hostname` = "tvpc" LIMIT 1 ;

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mah_meh:

Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)

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mah_meh:

Rows matched: 0 Changed: 0 Warnings: 0

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mah_meh:

rows matched: 0 ?

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Weezey:

mah_meh: UPDATE `settings` SET `data` = 'myth:\\MyMythBackend/recordings/', `hostname` = "tvpc.yourdomain.xxx" WHERE `value` = 'WebVideo_URL' AND `hostname` = "tvpc.yourdomain.xxx" LIMIT 1 ;

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mah_meh:

weezey, dont forget that myth:\\ needs to be host/share/ ;)

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mah_meh:

thats the whole reason i want the query to work ")

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mah_meh:

anyway

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Weezey:

mah_meh: UPDATE `settings` SET `data` = 'myth:\\tvpc.yourdomain.xxx/recordings/', `hostname` = "tvpc.yourdomain.xxx" WHERE `value` = 'WebVideo_URL' AND `hostname` = "tvpc.yourdomain.xxx" LIMIT 1 ;

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Weezey:

happy?

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mah_meh:

haha, not yet,

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mah_meh:

didnt make any difference

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Weezey:

still 0?

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Weezey:

then you need it to be null.

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mah_meh:

crap thing is i can see the value in the gui, even has an edit option, but its greyed out

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mah_meh:

yup, still 0

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mah_meh:

in the gui

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mah_meh:

it has hostname null

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Weezey:

do this: SELECT * FROM settings WHERE value="WebVideo_URL";

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mah_meh:

for that value

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Weezey:

then you'll see all of the values.

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Weezey:

hostname=NULL is the default

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mah_meh:

yep

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mah_meh:

that just outputs the data im looking at in the gui

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mah_meh:

value/data/hostname

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Weezey:

soo, what's your problem then?

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mah_meh:

sigh

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mah_meh:

i need to update the data

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mah_meh:

the myth:\\ bit

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mah_meh:

is wrong

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RyeBrye3:

is there a reason MythWeather shows me Wednesday Thursday Friday and not Sunda Monday Tuesday on the forecast screen?

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Weezey:

what do you want it to say?

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Weezey:

RyeBrye3: we cancelled those days.

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Weezey:

there will be no weather on them anymore.

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RyeBrye3:

Oh, good

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mah_meh:

myth:\\tvpc/tv/

[14:51:30]

RyeBrye3:

But wait – that's half of my weekend that got deleted!

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mah_meh:

i just tried UPDATE `settings` SET `data` = 'myth:\\tvpc/tv/', `hostname` = null WHERE `value` = 'WebVideo_URL' AND `hostname` = null LIMIT 1 ;

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mah_meh:

still matches zero rows

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Weezey:

update settings set data="myth:\\tvpc/tv/" where value="WebVideo_URL";

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mah_meh:

:)

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** RyeBrye3 's MythWeather is now updating correctly... don't know what was wrong before **

[14:56:27]

c4v3m4n:

ok, so I'm getting this error on mythbackend when I try to watch tv:

[14:56:45]

c4v3m4n:

NVR: Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back

[14:56:56]

c4v3m4n:

VIDIOCGBUF:: Invalid argument

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c4v3m4n:

I can use ivtv-tune and mplayer to watch TV just fine tho, so it's something with MythTV that's messed up I think. The ivtv drivers are loaded just fine, obviously.

[14:58:03]

c4v3m4n:

anyone have any ideas? (BTW, mysql is up and running, and I get no errors connecting to it either)

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Weezey:

mah_meh: updated wiki for you.

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cornell:

I was ssh'd into my myth box when I shut it down. And I found a bunch of strange messages on the terminal. At least, I think they're strange. I've copied them here: http://cornell.pastebin.com/792586. Are these normal?

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cornell:

oops... that's the second part

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cornell:

The first part is when I shutdown my knoppmyth box, it seemed to spew some dump info and hang. I turned it off and turned it back on.

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Sebulba02:

Anyone know what lib I could be missing with this? http://pastebin.com/792603

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kampagnol:

gentoo-install with broken frontend – warns about "XvMCTex: Init Failed" – any clues?

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frobnic:

hi there

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frobnic:

i misconfigured my xmltv-grabber. which table has the configuration?

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scopeuk:

isent xmltv stored in a config file

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frobnic:

there is a file Hama.xmltv in my case, but it does not contain the wrong chanid i entered when running myhtfilldatabase --manual

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scopeuk:

probably channels then

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frobnic:

xmltvid in channels is empty :(

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frobnic:

i'm gonna dump mythconverg and use 'grep' :)

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frobnic:

oh, funny. it is in channels, but added at the end.

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** frobnic <= idiot **

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frobnic:

scopeuk: it works. thank you

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AlefBet:

Hey guys. Is there a script that will add .mpg files in the recordings directory to the program list?

[15:48:42]

AlefBet:

I'm copying a bunch of programs from my myth box to my parents' and I'd like them to show up in the program guide so they don't have to fire up mplayer or something like that.

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J-e-f-f-A:

AlefBet: You'll probably have to put them in the video directory. But if you don't rename them to reflect the program itself, they'll show up as "1150_20060904143000.mpg" on the video page...

[15:51:36]

AlefBet:

Do I need the mythvideo plugin for that?

[15:52:04]

J-e-f-f-A:

AlefBet: Yes.

[15:52:15]

AlefBet:

Mmm.

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AlefBet:

A while ago, I lost my database and had to restore from backup, and someone here pointed out a script that would add the other programs to the DB, and I was wondering if there is still something like that.

[15:52:55]

AlefBet:

But I guess maybe not.

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J-e-f-f-A:

AlefBet: There's a perl script that will create symbolic links ... I use it to create symbolic links named "Walker Texas Ranger – Description.mpg" for a wireless media player.

[15:53:05]

AlefBet:

Thanks. I'll look at installing mythvideo.

[15:53:22]

AlefBet:

Renaming the files isn't an issue.

[15:53:32]

AlefBet:

I was just hoping to integrate them better with the program guide.

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J-e-f-f-A:

AlefBet: I think it's 'mythrename.pl' — I'm looking...

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AlefBet:

I've already got a list of files and their episode names.

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J-e-f-f-A:

AlefBet: The problem is that the program info is in the database itself...

[15:54:02]

AlefBet:

I can throw up a bash script to do the renaming no problem.

[15:54:19]

AlefBet:

Yeah, when I ran this script before I had to enter a program and episode name in for each file.

[15:54:28]

AlefBet:

I'm okay with that, if such a script exists.

[15:54:31]

J-e-f-f-A:

AlefBet: The only issue with plugging them into mythvideo is that the commercial skip won't work...

[15:55:01]

AlefBet:

When I was using mythvideo before, it fired up mplayer and the seeking worked differently and timescale not at all.

[15:55:01]

J-e-f-f-A:

AlefBet: So if you can get them imported back into the database, then that's the optimal way. (Which is what you're trying to do)

[15:55:04]

AlefBet:

I'd rather avoid that.

[15:55:34]

AlefBet:

Yeah, I was wondering if there was some sort of recovery tool that would help me add them to the database with enough metadata for them to work.

[15:55:48]

AlefBet:

Even if I had to type some in for each program.

[15:56:58]

AlefBet:

Hmm. MythVideo is marked testing on Gentoo. I guess I can unmask it if I need to....

[15:58:28]

J-e-f-f-A:

AlefBet: Actually, I don't think you'd have the commercial flags on your recordings anyways — I think that's all stored in the DB as well... So I don't think you'd be losing anything by making them videos... (Other than the slightly different usage of mplayer, but that can be tweaked to be more the same too)

[15:58:49]

Juski:

AlefBet: you can use nuvexport to export the mpgs & metadata then just copy the files over & execute the sql statements

[15:58:58]

Juski:

or use mytharchive's native export/import

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J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: Ah... another reason to go to .20... I wasn't aware that MythArchive had an IMPORT option!!! Awesome!

[15:59:29]

AlefBet:

Oh, that sounds good. I've not used nuvexport. Is it hard?

[15:59:47]

AlefBet:

I don't have MythArchive, though.

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Juski:

only hard thing about nuvexport is finding the right version for the version of mythtv you have

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AlefBet:

Ah, I think looking through my old chat logs the script I was thinking of is myth_rebuilddb.pl or myth_rebuilddatabase.pl.

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AlefBet:

Is that still part of MythTV?

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Juski:

ooo there's a mythfrontend setting to disallow exit from the UI.. didn't know that

[16:02:50]

Juski:

AlefBet: yup

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AlefBet:

Think it might do what I need?

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Juski:

don't think it'll do the program names & descriptions... though a quick look in the script will tell you

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promacuser:

Juski, are you always here? ;)

[16:03:34]

Juski:

am I shite!

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AlefBet:

Last time I ran whatever it was that worked, I had to enter the program name and episode name when it prompted me.

[16:03:43]

Juski:

always logged in, thanks to screen

[16:03:50]

Juski:

time to eat anyway.. ttfn

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AlefBet:

Screen is great.

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promacuser:

what is screen?

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AlefBet:

It runs terminal programs in a detachable session.

[16:04:41]

AlefBet:

I can start long processes, knowing that I can log out if I need to without killing the process or forking it to background.

[16:04:49]

RyeBrye3:

quick question: On the DVD Rip/Transcode – if I have subtitles on – those wont be saved in the video image, will they? (meaning: I can turn them off on playback?)

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AlefBet:

Looks like myth_rebuilddb doesn't come with my package. Where's the best place to grab it?

[16:06:11]

AlefBet:

Actually, lemme check my chat logs to see where I grabbed it last time.

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monkeypet:

AlefBet: Use screen to start long processes.

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AlefBet:

I do.

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AlefBet:

I usually run my Gentoo updates in screen.

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monkeypet:

AlefBet: Oh wait, you didn't ask the question, sorry.

[16:09:53]

monkeypet:

AlefBet: Still trying to solve the issue?

[16:10:07]

AlefBet:

The one from last night?

[16:10:10]

AlefBet:

I gave up on it.

[16:10:35]

AlefBet:

Now I'm trying to find a copy of myth_rebuilddb.pl.

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AlefBet:

Looking at the subversion tree, but I'm not sure which subdirectory it's in.

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AlefBet:

Ah, found it. Turns out it is on my system.

[16:16:17]

AlefBet:

Just uses a period instead of an underscore.

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promacuser:

I'm having trouble getting my MythBox to connect to the internet. I can connect to any of the other computers on my network, but it won't reach anything beyond that.

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namuch:

what makes the backend think that the current time is one hour off of the current time?

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RyeBrye3:

When I set up my DVD to transcode, and hit "0" to start the rip – it backs it back to the menu and says "No Jobs and nothing else to do. You could hit 0 to rip a DVD."

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RyeBrye3:

Am I doing something wrong?

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AlefBet:

namuch: Sounds like an ntp configuration error.

[16:20:36]

AlefBet:

Is it just mythtv that's off, or is it the system clock as well?

[16:20:50]

namuch:

when i type "date" from the console everything is fine..and my /etc/localtime is correct

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namuch:

and, yes it appears to be just the backend that is confused

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namuch:

this is a fairly new gentoo 2006.1 system

[16:21:57]

J-e-f-f-A:

namuch: Probably soemthing like daylight savings time being set wrong.

[16:22:18]

namuch:

but, the "date" command is correct...is it a qt thing?

[16:24:07]

namuch:

even when i look at my backend log timestamps, they show the correct time, when i go into mythweb, look at recording schedules, or anything like that, then date is one hour ahead

[16:24:36]

hashbang:

namuch: what timezone are you in?

[16:24:43]

namuch:

phoenix

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monkeypet:

namuch: did you run date as the mythtv user?

[16:24:53]

hashbang:

(both in real life, and $TZ)

[16:25:11]

hashbang:

namuch: my geography isn't very good; EST?

[16:25:12]

J-e-f-f-A:

namuch: I'd still verify that your timezone and daylight savings setting are set properly.

[16:25:24]

namuch:

MST currently, phoenix doesn't change times

[16:25:52]

hashbang:

namuch: also, there have been a bunch of updates to the timezone database, so check you're fully up-to-date there

[16:26:05]

namuch:

emerge --sync last night

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namuch:

and i've been monkeying with timezone stuff all morning trying to get this straightened out

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hashbang:

namuch: what does 'TZ=GMT date' show right now?

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monkeypet:

Places that don't follow daylight savings are wierd.

[16:27:59]

namuch:

Sat Sep 23 16:27:44 GMT 2006

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promacuser:

we started to look at my problem yesterday, but i wasn't able to diagnose it precisely

[16:28:05]

promacuser:

ie, fix it

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hashbang:

namuch: OK, that's right

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RyeBrye3:

What would cause my Rip/Transcode to do this: I go in, select a vob, hit "0" to start it going – and it immediately kicks me back to the Rip/Transcode menu as if nothing ever happened (saying "No Jobs and nothing else to do. You could hit 0 to rip a DVD)

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namuch:

i have been running mythtv on gentoo for a very long time, and have never experienced this problem

[16:28:39]

namuch:

before

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RyeBrye3:

It will play the DVD back if I hit "view" in the submenu

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hashbang:

namuch: you're not in Navajo Nation, are you?

[16:29:02]

hashbang:

(they observe DST, apparently!)

[16:29:03]

namuch:

ahh, no

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promacuser:

and i can't ping anything from the mythbox

[16:29:11]

namuch:

in greater phoenix

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J-e-f-f-A:

namuch: I would say that if it started after you did your emerge last-night, then it definitely is due to changes in the timezone stuff monkeypet was talking about...

[16:29:29]

RyeBrye3:

Ahh... the Daylight Savings time...

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** RyeBrye3 overhears people all the time specify things as "Mountain Standard Time" – when in fact we are currently in "Mountain Daylight Time" **

[16:30:04]

namuch:

here is what happened, i've built a new backend server to replace dying hardware on my old server

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monkeypet:

namuch: did you change the hostname?

[16:30:37]

namuch:

i have yet to put this new machine into production, until i can figure why this problem is happening

[16:30:42]

namuch:

nope

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hashbang:

namuch: TZ=MST date ?

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namuch:

the hostname has been the same since bootstrap

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hashbang:

$ TZ=MST date

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hashbang:

Sat Sep 23 09:30:39 MST 2006

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namuch:

Sat Sep 23 09:31:06 MST 2006

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namuch:

which is my current "date" output

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hashbang:

namuch: is that the right "real" time for you?

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namuch:

yup

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hashbang:

OK, so the user you're running that as has $TZ set correctly

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promacuser:

let me know if anyone can help or when you have some time to check this out with me

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namuch:

good question, the backend runs as root

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namuch:

the log file timestamps that the backend is writing is correct, that is the puzzling part

[16:33:09]

monkeypet:

namuch: Did you see what date returns on the user that runs the frontend?

[16:33:19]

hashbang:

considering that timezones are just +/- offsets, they're harder than they look on the surface. :-)

[16:33:22]

Dibblah:

Juski: not me asking about minimyth...

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namuch:

this client-server system, my backend is headless, always have done it that way

[16:33:58]

namuch:

never had issues until now...

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Do you have your router's ip configured as your gateway on your backend?

[16:34:20]

Juski:

Dibblah: never mind.. it was someone whose nick starts with 'd' anyway :)

[16:34:38]

monkeypet:

promacuser: what is the issue?

[16:35:28]

promacuser:

thanks guys. sorry to be a pain.

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promacuser:

mythfilldatabase fails every time because it can't find the website, and anything that i ping outside of my LAN fails

[16:36:22]

J-e-f-f-A:

monkeypet: promacuser can't get to the internet from his backend box, but can get to other boxes on his network. Sounds like the 'default gateway' for his backend isn't set to his router's internal address.

[16:36:42]

J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: What's your router's ip? 192.168.1.1?

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promacuser:

jeffa: yes

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monkeypet:

promacuser: what distribution are you using?

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promacuser:

jeffa: where do i set it?

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promacuser:

monkeypet: knoppmyth

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: did you setup your backend with static IP, or dynamic?

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promacuser:

jeffa: i just set it to static IP about a week ago

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promacuser:

jeffa: or tried to

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Ok, then put your router's ip in your 'gateway' field for your ethernet card. That should do it.

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monkeypet:

promacuser: login as root, try this, /sbin/route, what is the default route?

[16:38:35]

promacuser:

yes, you guys are correct, there is no gateway

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promacuser:

how do i set it exactly?

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Should be on the same place that you assigned the static IP address.

[16:39:43]

promacuser:

jeffa: ok, i'll look it up, but i don't remember. . . this is the problem when i don't know a lot of UNIX

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monkeypet:

promacuser: temporary set it, /sbin/route add default gw <ROUTER IP>

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J-e-f-f-A:

monkeypet: thanks — I coudln't remember the 'route' syntax...

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monkeypet:

J-e-f-f-A: I don't remember where knoppix keeps the interface info.

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J-e-f-f-A:

monkeypet: yeah, I was just googling to find it too...

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promacuser:

jeffa: /etc/network/interfaces

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monkeypet:

J-e-f-f-A: What is knoppix based on, debian?

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J-e-f-f-A:

monkeypet: Knoppix

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frankrizzo:

i just got a 40 inch lcd hdtv....... an upgrade from a 27 inch 8 year old samsung

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promacuser:

i found it. do i need to restart?

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monkeypet:

promacuser: no, just restart the interface

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frankrizzo:

mythtv made me do it

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J-e-f-f-A:

monkeypet: Sorry- KnoppMyth is based on Knoppix — not sure what Knoppix itself is based on...

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monkeypet:

promacuser: /etc/init.d/network restart

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promacuser:

monkeypet: thanks ;) was just about to ask

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monkeypet:

promacuser: after that check your route table, /sbin/route

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=StaticIPConfig

[16:44:38]

J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: That's how to make it 'permanent'... ;-)

[16:45:28]

promacuser:

JEFFA: right, i looked at that

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promacuser:

JEFFA: but i think i changed some things wrong

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promacuser:

Kernel IP routing table

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promacuser:

Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface

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promacuser:

192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0

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promacuser:

monkeypet: also, the restart command didn't work

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krisp_:

anyone using the "crop" filter?

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krisp_:

crop

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promacuser:

monkeypet: -bash: /etc/init.d/network: No such file or directory

[16:47:19]

krisp_:

i get pink or green bars instead of getting black ones like the documentation says I should

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: What's the ip of your box? 192.168.1.x — what's 'x'?

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Juski:

krisp_: you might need to set the colorkey colour with xvattr

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promacuser:

104

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krisp_:

to what, black?

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Juski:

krisp_: yup

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RyeBrye3:

Anyone know why when I hit "0" to start a DVD ripping it just throws me back to the menu?

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krisp_:

ok i will give that a shot

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Juski:

RyeBrye3: mtd isn't running?

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RyeBrye3:

Juski: I have mtd running... I'm pretty sure – before I loaded it, it gave me a message that it wasn't loaded

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: So make your /etc/network/interfaces look just like the one on the wiki — plug in 192.168.1.104 for 'desired ip addrss', and 192.168.1.1 in 'gateway address' and 192.168.1.255 in 'highest allowable address*'

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** RyeBrye3 will double check to make sure mtd is running **

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RyeBrye3:

Juski: Yeah, mtd is running

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Juski:

wtf was c4v3m4n up to earlier?

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monkeypet:

promacuser: ifdown <interface>

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monkeypet:

promacuser: ifup <interface>

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promacuser:

JEFFA: yeah, i did. it looks exactly like the one in knoppmythwiki

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krisp_:

hm cant set color key

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krisp_:

and not in list

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promacuser:

monkeypet: wait, i don't udnerstand that

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Juski:

yay minimyth now has a themecache. lovely. now to test the remote

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: either "ifdown eth0", or "/sbin/ifdown eth0", then the same for ifup...

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promacuser:

what does that do?

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promacuser:

JEFFA: ifdown: interface eth0 not configured

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Umm, well, try bringing it up then. That is the name of your interface, as that's what your 'route' output showed above.

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promacuser:

JEFFA: ifup eth0

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promacuser:

SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument

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promacuser:

Failed to bring up eth0.

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Ok, your netmask should be 255.255.255.0 in that file --

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promacuser:

JEFFA: it is

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: I wonder if it needs parens around it like the other values though...

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frankrizzo:

I am trying to setup fedora to look the best with my tv, I am using component cables and the screen supports 1366 x 768 @ 60Hz, is there anything else I should configur in hte xorg.conf file?

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promacuser:

JEFFA: i will try

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promacuser:

JEFFA: how do i restart it because /etc/init.d/network isn't found?

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: ifup eth0

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promacuser:

JEFFA: ty

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promacuser:

JEFFA: now it gives syntax errors. methinks no parenthesis

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krisp_:

any other reasons why the crop filter bars wouldn't be black other than xv colorkey

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promacuser:

JEFFA, how do i do that?

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promacuser:

sorry, this is new for me

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promacuser:

a PM?

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promacuser:

hang on JEFFA

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Juski:

bleh. remote not worky :((

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krisp_:

so nobody else has had any trouble with the crop filter giving them non-black bars?

[17:09:20]

Juski:

hrm... catting /dev/lirc0 produces garbage text when I press buttons, so the hardware works...

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krisp_:

xris you ever hear of non-black bars with the crop filter? i'm getting pink or yellow but not black

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Juski:

I reckon it's still the xvattr thing

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krisp_:

i dont have colorkey as an attribute

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Juski:

xvColorKey ?

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krisp_:

right

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Juski:

yay! remote worky!

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Juski:

:)

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promacuser:

ok

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xris:

krisp_: with...?

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krisp_:

i use the ati binary drivers

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xris:

again, what program?

[17:16:24]

krisp_:

myth

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xris:

frontend? I've never used it.

[17:16:35]

krisp_:

ya

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xris:

pink sounds appropriate for ati, though.

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Now that we've got your networking fixed, what's your other question?

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krisp_:

i had to do the define for the ati color hack it must not apply to the black bars

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xris:

xvcolorkey sounds like a reasonable thing

[17:17:06]

RyeBrye3:

is it normal for mtd to say "Please send bug report – no VTS_TMAPT" when it loads?

[17:17:24]

krisp_:

well, xvcolorkey isn't in the list of attributes for the driver

[17:17:27]

promacuser:

JEFFA: i can't connect to the website on the box to use it remotely

[17:17:41]

xris:

krisp_: no, it's not there by default. it's an override setting.

[17:17:42]

J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Your backend?

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promacuser:

JEFFA: yes

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Ok, first thing to do is setup the security in the webserver, otherwise anybody on the web can schedule programs on your box.

[17:18:56]

promacuser:

JEFFA: ok, what's the best way to do that?

[17:19:12]

J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Then after you do that, you enable a 'virtual serve' on your router to let port 8080 or 80 (or whatever you chose) to be forwarded to your backend box.

[17:19:40]

J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Your backend is knoppmyth too?

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krisp_:

hm

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promacuser:

JEFFA: yes. i've had this set up before, where i route port 90 to from the router to the box

[17:20:50]

promacuser:

JEFFA: it just doesn't seem to want to work now

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Is the webserver running? ps -ef |grep httpd

[17:22:00]

promacuser:

nope

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promacuser:

JEFFA: hmm, maybe that's the problem ;)

[17:22:22]

J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Yep! /sbin/service httpd start should do the trick...

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Juski:

right that all works... I can rest now & demolish gentoo tomorrow :))

[17:22:40]

J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: But I'd look into adding a login! You using apache?

[17:22:47]

promacuser:

JEFFA: i think so

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promacuser:

JEFFA: also, how do i add this to the list of things to happen at startup/

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J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: I've got to step away for a little bit — I'm oncall from work and just got called. I'll pm ya in a few.

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** Juski restarts the gentoo box dhcp server **

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promacuser:

JEFFA: ok, thanks again

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krisp_:

the bars are actually yellow and white stripe

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krisp_:

now that i look at them closely

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frankrizzo:

Anyone care to help me troubleshoot jitter issues? I have been fooling around for 2 weeks and still have not gotten very far

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AlefBet:

What directory do I put mythvideo files in?

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AlefBet:

mythtv.org seems to be sparse on mythvideo docs.

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kormoc:

the directory you put in the mythvideo setup?

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AlefBet:

I just used portage. Where is the mythsetup file?

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kormoc:

mythvideo is setup under settings inside of mythfrontend

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AlefBet:

Oh, okay. That makes sense.

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AlefBet:

Sorry.

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roger55:

AlefBet, mythtv-setup is the name of the setup binary

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roger55:

ah you want what kormoc said.

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antiProzac:

today I built a new mythtv box. I am using the same hardware as my old 0.20, only this one has a GeForce MX4000 video card in it. Installation was fine. Now when I enter "Watch TV" I get a blank screen. Any ideas?

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antiProzac:

tvtime works, so my tuner is ok

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aevil:

antiProzac, start mythfrontend from a terminal and watch the output

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AlefBet:

What is the "info" button?Can I type "internal" for a command in a file association?

[17:41:26]

AlefBet:

Or is that just for the default player?

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kormoc:

just for the default player

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kormoc:

info button?

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AlefBet:

Sorry. I typed a question, but didn't send it. Then it turns out I didn't need it, but I forgot to erase it.

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** AlefBet blushes. **

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monkeypet:

antiProzac: What capture card are you using?

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frankrizzo:

i get jitter with myth tv even when I am playing a dvd, I have a motherboard that has a geforce 6150 /430 chipset

[17:46:32]

kormoc:

cpu? memory? what's the cpu load? how full is the memory?

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frankrizzo:

sempron 3000+ AM2, 1 gig of memory

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frankrizzo:

not sure how to check the load and how full the memory is

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frankrizzo:

using fedora

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kormoc:

top

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kormoc:

and free -m

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frankrizzo:

should I check it while watching a dvd?

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frankrizzo:

or close out of mythfrontend

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kormoc:

under top, the value under 00.0%id is the idle cpu cycles

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kormoc:

and you want the free memory on the second line from free -m

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kormoc:

while watching something

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frankrizzo:

okay, sorry, but how do I switch to a terminal window without closing the frontend

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frankrizzo:

I am using KDE

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kormoc:

crtl alt f2 *should* work fine

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kormoc:

and then to get back, crtl alt f7 *should* be your x again

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frankrizzo:

thanks

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frankrizzo:

I see 53.7 id

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frankrizzo:

not 00.0%id

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kormoc:

kk, that's good, as it means your cpu is under utilized

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frankrizzo:

i am trying to type in the next command, but it just keeps updating top

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kormoc:

aye

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kormoc:

type q to quit top

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frankrizzo:

22 megs free for memory

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frankrizzo:

946 total, 923 used

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kormoc:

on the second line or the first?

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frankrizzo:

I allocated 64 to the onboard vidoe card

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frankrizzo:

ohhh

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frankrizzo:

i see, where it says -/_ buffers/cache:?

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kormoc:

aye

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frankrizzo:

555

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frankrizzo:

under free

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Spicerun:

mythweb keeps thinking there are other user jobs running (like transcoding) even though the job isn't running, and it refuses to start mythfrontend (claims it is locked by another user). Anyone know how to manual release that lock?

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kormoc:

Basically, the buffers and cached files are 'used' ram, but can be freed at any time, so the real admount of ram free is that second line

[17:53:43]

kormoc:

so you have plenty of ram free

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kormoc:

at this point, I would run mythfrontend like this

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kormoc:

mythfrontend > output.log

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kormoc:

do some stuff

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kormoc:

and then look at the log, see if it gives any good info on what's going on

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frankrizzo:

I am already running it in a terminal window, does that give me the same level of log detail?

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kormoc:

aye

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AlefBet:

How do you delete an entry from the mythvideo screen?

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frankrizzo:

okay, i see "your system is not capable of displauing the full framerate at 1024x768 resolution. Frames will be skipped in order to keep the audio and video in sync

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kampagnol:

mythfrontend plays video accelerated (plus pauses) and rebuffers audio without playing any audio at all – any ideas?

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frankrizzo:

i have seen that before, but I thought it fixed it.....guess not

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frankrizzo:

kormoc, perhaps this related to the configuration of my xorg.conf file?

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frankrizzo:

i have been fiddling with it a lot, but I guess I am not getting the right settings

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J-e-f-f-A:

monkeypet: btw – you were right, Knoppix/KnoppMyth is based on Debian.

[18:00:42]

AlefBet:

Man, I just can't find any official documentation for how to use MythVideo.

[18:00:49]

AlefBet:

I can play videos, but how do I delete them?

[18:01:03]

BULLE:

hit the delete button ?

[18:01:09]

AlefBet:

Not doing anything.

[18:01:13]

BULLE:

or choose manage recordings, delete recordings

[18:01:17]

Sebulba02:

D

[18:01:25]

BULLE:

my delete button is red!

[18:01:34]

BULLE:

on the remote

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AlefBet:

Manage recordings only shows stuff recorded off TV.

[18:02:23]

J-e-f-f-A:

AlefBet: If you can't delete them while viewing them, I think you need to do it from the setup menu for mythvideo (where you scanned for new videos)

[18:03:33]

AlefBet:

Ah, the video manager seems to have an option to delete.

[18:03:35]

AlefBet:

Thanks for the tip.

[18:03:44]

AlefBet:

It was there all along, but I don't know if I'd ever found it.

[18:03:48]

AlefBet:

ever have found it.

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doubleoh:

When I record something in myth I get this from the Kernel localhost kernel: FIFO overrun, status 0xe8005008

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kormoc:

with a bttv card?

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doubleoh:

Yah

[18:08:43]

doubleoh:

WinTV

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kormoc:

That's not too uncommon, does it affect your recording?

[18:09:43]

doubleoh:

I get some skips.. and some times some delays. This wasn't a problem in the earlier versions.

[18:09:56]

kormoc:

huh, that's strange

[18:10:14]

kormoc:

when I had one, it would do that on starting recording, and that's bout it

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J-e-f-f-A:

doubleoh: How's your free memory look?

[18:10:56]

doubleoh:

This is constant, I every once in a while see a bttv isync error. Goes by too quickly

[18:11:21]

doubleoh:

Mem: 516316k total, 510404k used, 5912k free, 2948k buffers

[18:11:21]

doubleoh:

Swap: 1959920k total, 177456k used, 1782464k free, 215668k cached

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kormoc:

Yeah, I had isync issues and they didn't affect the recording as well... maybe I was just lucky

[18:13:36]

Spicerun:

solved my mythwelcome problem.....had the wrong path in its setup to mythfrontend...

[18:14:08]

promacuser:

anyone know where the knoppmyth httpd commands are found?

[18:14:15]

Spicerun:

Next question: What would keep my plugins (like MythNews from showing up even though I've compiled them in?

[18:14:37]

doubleoh:

J-e-f-f-a: Any ideas?

[18:14:50]

kormoc:

Spicerun, remove them

[18:14:59]

kormoc:

promacuser, httpd commands?

[18:15:27]

promacuser:

kormoc: sorry, i just want to start httpd on my mythbox and i can't figure out how

[18:15:37]

kormoc:

check /etc/init.d ?

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Spicerun:

kormoc: Can you elaborate on that more? Remove and then reinstall?

[18:15:44]

J-e-f-f-A:

doubleoh: Humm.. you're a little tight on memory... Since it's a BBTV based card, maybe that's a factor...

[18:15:50]

promacuser:

failed

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kormoc:

Spicerun, aye, if they're installed, they show up, there's no real way around that right now

[18:16:24]

kormoc:

J-e-f-f-A, he's not low on memory, he has 255 megs of cached files that are not really used memory

[18:16:31]

kormoc:

promacuser, not in there?

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Spicerun:

kormoc: Ok, thanks

[18:16:50]

promacuser:

kormoc: apache is there. is that the same as httpd? or does it do the same things?

[18:16:52]

J-e-f-f-A:

kormoc: Ok, sorry... saw 5912 free...

[18:17:04]

kormoc:

promacuser, apache is usually the same thing, aye

[18:17:25]

monkeypet:

kormoc: lol, he said he was a noobie...

[18:17:54]

kormoc:

heh, indeed

[18:18:00]

promacuser:

well, it's confusing for someone who's only been doing this for a while!

[18:18:01]

promacuser:

heh

[18:19:21]

J-e-f-f-A:

kormoc: promacuser is getting "apache: could not open error log file /var/log/apache/error.log" when trying to start it manually. (It did not start on boot)

[18:19:42]

kormoc:

he is starting it as root?

[18:19:49]

J-e-f-f-A:

kormoc: I think he started it as root at one point in time, now the permissions are mixed up...

[18:20:01]

kormoc:

he should always start it as root

[18:20:15]

kormoc:

the init.d script that is

[18:20:31]

kormoc:

but he can likely fix the issue by chown -R apache:apache /var/log/apache

[18:20:59]

promacuser:

kormoc: would *creating* the directory work?

[18:21:04]

promacuser:

it's not even there

[18:21:10]

kormoc:

yeah

[18:21:15]

kormoc:

create it and then chmod it

[18:21:23]

doubleoh:

I found this in the syslog (in addition to the FIFO over flows), I am not sure if this will help at all. kernel: bttv0: OCERR @ 1ed3d000,bits: HSYNC OFLOW FBUS OCERR*

[18:21:31]

J-e-f-f-A:

xris: are you around?

[18:21:57]

promacuser:

kormoc: chown: `apache:apache': invalid user

[18:22:03]

kormoc:

huh

[18:22:17]

kormoc:

well, you'd need to see what user apache is setup to run as and use that

[18:22:22]

J-e-f-f-A:

kormoc: He's on KnoppMyth if it makes any difference...

[18:22:42]

** promacuser feels everyone in the room cringe at the sound of Knoppmyth **

[18:22:58]

** J-e-f-f-A ;-) **

[18:23:20]

promacuser:

oh, well, FWIW, creating the directory made it start

[18:23:28]

J-e-f-f-A:

promacuser: Hey, it's still MythTV! ;-)

[18:23:40]

Sebulba02:

What's wrong with knoppmyth?

[18:24:45]

promacuser:

Sebulba02: i've found that most people here don't use it.

[18:24:54]

frankrizzo:

kormoc, do you have much experience in finding the right settings for the xorg.conf file?

[18:25:04]

kormoc:

a decent bit, aye

[18:25:09]

frankrizzo:

every combo I try seems to come out wrong, I am actually making the problem worse!

[18:25:09]

kormoc:

what are you attempting to do?

[18:25:15]

promacuser:

Sebulba02: and i think the people who do use it are always looking for easy fixes without knowing how things work

[18:25:22]

Sebulba02:

ah

[18:25:37]

frankrizzo:

it seems like my problem with jitter / dropped frames is due to xorg being setup wrong

[18:25:44]

kormoc:

ooh?

[18:25:50]

kormoc:

what's in the x logs?

[18:25:58]

frankrizzo:

cuz it says "your system is not capable of displauing the full framerate at 1024x768 resolution. Frames will be skipped in order to keep the audio and video in sync"

[18:26:01]

frankrizzo:

under mythtv

[18:26:04]

frankrizzo:

front end

[18:26:10]

kormoc:

hrm

[18:26:34]

kormoc:

that's more pointing to a slowness issue with cpu or similar, but perhaps not

[18:26:54]

J-e-f-f-A:

or a non-accelerated video driver...

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kormoc:

aye

[18:27:16]

J-e-f-f-A:

frankrizzo: What video card?

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[18:27:22]

frankrizzo:

i have a geforce 6150 / 430 chipset on my motherboard

[18:27:34]

frankrizzo:

http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l . . . ;modelmenu=1

[18:27:37]

kormoc:

are you running nvidia's drivers or the open source nv driver?

[18:27:37]

RyeBrye3:

I've got a problem similar to this guy: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/216438

[18:27:46]

RyeBrye3:

When I try to rip a DVD it just spins its wheels

[18:27:48]

J-e-f-f-A:

frankrizzo: Are you using the nvidia drivers?

[18:28:28]

frankrizzo:

# yum -y install nvidia-graphics8774-kmdl-$KVER

[18:28:28]

frankrizzo:

# yum -y install nvidia-graphics8774

[18:28:43]

frankrizzo:

i did that to update the drivers when I first set fedora 5 & mythtv up

[18:28:45]

kormoc:

did you set the xorg driver to nvidia rather then nv?

[18:28:49]

J-e-f-f-A:

RyeBrye3: There used to be an issue with encryption on certain dvd's — Does it do it for all, or have you only tried one?

[18:29:08]

J-e-f-f-A:

RyeBrye3: (er, de-cryption...)

[18:29:35]

RyeBrye3:

J-e-f-f-A: I have only tried this one... I can try another one to test it

[18:29:39]

frankrizzo:

i dont know how to do that, so I would say no

[18:29:48]

RyeBrye3:

J-e-f-f-A: When you say "used to" – is there a fix?

[18:30:42]

frankrizzo:

how might I do that kormoc?

[18:30:46]

J-e-f-f-A:

RyeBrye3: I'm not sure if it still exists — had to do with tougher CSS encryption.

[18:31:14]

J-e-f-f-A:

RyeBrye3: Big titles like Star Wars and such have it.

[18:31:27]

kormoc:

frankrizzo, well, the simpliest way to do that is to edit the file and change where it says driver "nv" to driver "nvidia"

[18:31:48]

RyeBrye3:

J-e-f-f-A: Oh. Hmm... htat might make sense – I'm ripping a DVD of Lost Season 2... they may have gone crazy protecting it

[18:32:07]

frankrizzo:

under device is says "Driver "vesa"

[18:32:15]

kormoc:

change that to nvidia then

[18:32:23]

kormoc:

vesa is even slower then nv is

[18:32:23]

J-e-f-f-A:

frankrizzo: There ya go...

[18:33:37]

RyeBrye3:

J-e-f-f-a: It does appear to be ripping now on ano older video that is not protected...

[18:33:52]

frankrizzo:

I did control alt backspace to restart it, and it failed to start the x server

[18:34:00]

kormoc:

what did it say?

[18:34:05]

RyeBrye3:

J-e-f-f-a: Any hints where I should look for a way to fix my css decryption problem?

[18:34:39]

frankrizzo:

it didnt give anything specifc in the output, I am in the "you broke x" config mode

[18:34:51]

kormoc:

look at the x log

[18:35:45]

frankrizzo:

ok

[18:35:47]

frankrizzo:

trying to get there

[18:36:56]

J-e-f-f-A:

RyeBrye3: I think the package is libdvdcss — I don't know if there's a new one yet – trying to look now.

[18:38:34]

frankrizzo:

okay, looks like "Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your x log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your x server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module.

[18:38:50]

kormoc:

hrm

[18:38:59]

kormoc:

sounds like the nvidia drivers didn't install right

[18:39:02]

RyeBrye3:

J-e-f-f-A: thanks

[18:39:37]

J-e-f-f-A:

RyeBrye3: When I do a locate on my system, I find a "/usr/share/doc/libdvdcss-1.2.9" directory – there's a NEWS file in there...

[18:39:52]

frankrizzo:

is that latest fedora 5 kernel 2.6.9?

[18:40:00]

frankrizzo:

cuz there may be a conflict

[18:41:16]

monkeypet:

is it just me or is the mythmusic interface not intuitive.

[18:41:22]

Juski:

no it's not just you

[18:41:23]

kormoc:

it's sucky

[18:41:36]

kormoc:

and it's gonna get re-written when someone cares enough to re-write it

[18:41:45]

J-e-f-f-A:

HA! That's funny...

[18:41:46]

Juski:

I keep meaning to experiment with XMMS some time

[18:42:16]

Juski:

be interesting to see if there's a 'skin' for amarok which is TV friendly though

[18:43:05]

Juski:

I think a 'gallery' folder kind of view would be better for mythmusic IMHO

[18:43:49]

Juski:

but then I also think it'd be best for mythtv to just have a media player rather than all the different stuff.. and if I could code more than 'hello world' I'd have a go

[18:44:00]

kormoc:

well

[18:44:08]

kormoc:

mythvideo and mythdvd are planned to merge together

[18:44:21]

kormoc:

perhaps once that's done, they could add in audio stuff

[18:44:47]

Juski:

xine's not a bad audio player in itself, nor is mplayer

[18:45:30]

Juski:

actually you could just about make mythvideo work as an audio player – with the exception of being able to create playlists with the UI

[18:45:48]

frankrizzo:

how do i restart x from the command line?

[18:45:58]

kormoc:

killall X

[18:45:59]

kormoc:

startx

[18:46:37]

frankrizzo:

i found a nviida utility that will configure your xorg.conf file for the nivdia driver, but it didnt fix the problem

[18:46:58]

kormoc:

do you get the nvidia splash screen on starting of X?

[18:47:18]

frankrizzo:

ive never seen it

[18:47:26]

kormoc:

then it's likely still not right

[18:48:00]

frankrizzo:

hmmm

[18:48:36]

Paladine:

hmmmm

[18:48:43]

Paladine:

in MythVideo

[18:49:04]

frankrizzo:

would reinstlaling the drivers even help?

[18:49:24]

kormoc:

donno. I don't know fedora that well at all

[18:49:29]

Paladine:

it should really be made so the Filter set in Video Management is preserved through Gallery/List and Browse views

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J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: Sounds like a 'wishlist' item...

[18:49:58]

Paladine:

otherwise there isn't really much point in the filter in the video management screen

[18:50:16]

Paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, indeed

[18:50:26]

Paladine:

must be a saturday not like you to be on at this hour

[18:50:38]

J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: Yep.

[18:50:56]

J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: 2:50pm... Boston area

[18:51:16]

Paladine:

I went to bed at 4:30pm and got up at 7pm hehehe

[18:51:20]

Paladine:

so I am a bit out of it at the moment

[18:51:27]

J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: Raining... Yuck.

[18:51:45]

Paladine:

it is not 7:52pm

[18:52:02]

Paladine:

s/not/now

[18:52:15]

Paladine:

am trying to get my second cup of coffee down my neck

[18:52:25]

J-e-f-f-A:

Paladine: So, did you re-boot yet?!?

[18:52:32]

Paladine:

no lol

[18:52:39]

Paladine:

been way to busy transcoding

[18:54:30]

Paladine:

am in the process of converting our entire dvd library to mpeg4 for mythvideo

[18:54:57]

AndyCap:

now a player with good ui (for remote control use) is squeezebox. :P lending a couple of ideas there to mythmusic wouldn't be bad. :P

[18:55:58]

Paladine:

J-e-f-f-A, I have to watch everything I transcode from start to finish to check there are no glitches ;)

[18:56:20]

Paladine:

which gives me an excuse to watch 24 from season 1–4 initsentirety :)

[18:56:40]

Paladine:

without the missus complaining ;)

[18:57:01]

Paladine:

"But sweetheart I need to check that it transcoded properly"

[18:58:25]

J-e-f-f-A:

hehe... I goot hooked on 24 in season 4, then when I went on vacation, my step-dad's friend had seasons 1 & 2 on dvd. Guess what I did for most of my vacation? Yep- watched the first two seasons, nearly straight thru... ;-)

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Paladine:

my missus has bought me all 4 season on dvd as soon as they became available :)

[18:59:04]

Paladine:

its a good show

[18:59:16]

Juski:

roll on January, eh guys ;-)

[18:59:24]

Paladine:

season 5?

[18:59:30]

Juski:

season 6

[18:59:34]

Paladine:

won't be released on tv in the UK til later

[18:59:39]

kampagnol:

need help with configuring alsa for mythtv!

[18:59:41]

** Juski coughs **

[18:59:42]

Paladine:

we haven't even had s5 yet

[19:00:01]

Juski:

Paladine: $ky showed S5 about 6 weeks behind the US

[19:00:15]

Juski:

it's not been on $ky Three yet, is all

[19:00:18]

Paladine:

must have been when I was working

[19:01:05]

kampagnol:

cannot get mythfrontent to output any audio...

[19:01:11]

Paladine:

I had a heavy consulting gig between august 2005 and april 2006

[19:01:17]

Paladine:

was out of the country a lot

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Paladine:

that same job felt like I was working in CTU

[19:04:47]

Paladine:

the company I was working for had the same cisco VOIP phones

[19:04:55]

Paladine:

so they had the 24 ring on them

[19:05:17]

Juski:

heh. we've got Cisco IP phones now at work. they suck

[19:05:25]

Paladine:

no-one actually noticed til I pointed it out hehe

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J-e-f-f-A:

I've got that ringtone on my cell phone... ;-)

[19:05:57]

Juski:

kampagnol: do you have 2 soundcards by any chance?

[19:06:03]

Juski:

J-e-f-f-A: me too :-P

[19:06:12]

Paladine:

I should add it to mine

[19:06:16]

Paladine:

I am a big 24 fan :)

[19:06:26]

** Juski has been since series 1 **

[19:06:34]

Paladine:

likewise

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Juski:

I know it's throwaway nonsense, but it's about the best I've ever seen IMHO

[19:07:05]

Juski:

"open a socket"...

[19:07:11]

Paladine:

credit where its due, it is a good show

[19:07:19]

Juski:

"which port? 6543?"

[19:07:25]

Paladine:

I am the worlds biggest hater of hollywood

[19:07:39]

J-e-f-f-A:

Yeah, I get hung up sometimes on the not-quite-technically-correct aspects, but other than that, it's a good thriller.

[19:07:39]

frankrizzo:

kormoc, they helped me in fedora with the nvidia problem

[19:07:45]

frankrizzo:

i see the logo now :-)

[19:07:49]

Juski:

I watched 20 minutes of 'lost' once. I almost chucked something through my tv

[19:07:49]

kevin_:

Juski: no – but there's a good chance that my system thinks the DVB-S card is also a sound card...

[19:08:04]

Paladine:

I couldn't get into Lost at all

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krisp_:

ok i give up im switching to nvidia

[19:08:21]

Paladine:

I kept looking for that dude hobbit feet

[19:08:21]

Juski:

yay!

[19:08:24]

Paladine:

and he didn't have any

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kormoc:

frankrizzo, yay, good to hear

[19:09:12]

frankrizzo:

the screen looks purple

[19:09:18]

frankrizzo:

oh well, i shall fix that later

[19:09:40]

KaiForce:

need help please – attempting to install ivtv on FC4 after kernel upgrade: /lib/modules/v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin is needed by package ivtv-kmdl-2.6.14–1.1653_FC4. That file is in /lib/modules.

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kevin_:

Juski: 00:0e.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [Audio Port] (rev 05)

[19:09:57]

Juski:

kevin_: whoops

[19:10:15]

Juski:

you might need to do some erm... (thingy) hacking

[19:10:25]

Juski:

udev...

[19:11:00]

kevin_:

Juski: zero experience in the area – wouldn't know where to start...

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KaiForce:

using yum

[19:13:49]

Juski:

kevin_: well, if that's appearing as an alsa device you should be able to change the default output device for your distro somehow, assuming it always comes up in the same order

[19:13:52]

monkeypet:

KaiForce: what is the error?

[19:14:26]

kevin_:

Juski: using gentoo...

[19:14:27]

KaiForce:

Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin is needed by package ivtv-kmdl-2.6.14–1.1653_FC4

[19:14:31]

Juski:

KaiForce: running with a pvr350? otherwise you'd not need that file IIRC

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Juski:

KaiForce: that file should live in the firmware location too AFAIK

[19:15:10]

Juski:

not /lib/modules

[19:15:39]

KaiForce:

ok let me check that.

[19:15:43]

Juski:

aaanyway.. time for the mythvideo movie of the evening...

[19:15:58]

Paladine:

mythvideo rocks

[19:16:01]

** Juski turns on the subwoofer **

[19:16:06]

Paladine:

the internal player seems flawless too

[19:18:19]

J-e-f-f-A:

Anyone here got a frontend booting off a CF card?

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promacuser:

that would be neat

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Zider:

J-e-f-f-A: no, but a livecd.. should be pretty easy to just get a mini-os installed there..

[19:26:50]

Zider:

with myth

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J-e-f-f-A:

Zider: I'm looking to make a disk-less frontend, I have a 1GB CF card and an IDE-CF adapter, so it appears as a 1GB IDE drive to the system.

[19:29:59]

Zider:

well, I don't think a frontend system would do much disk access, so it should work fine

[19:30:07]

Zider:

running mysql on another system ofcourse

[19:30:36]

J-e-f-f-A:

Zider: Yeah — I probably don't even need a cf card — I could setup network booting too...

[19:30:49]

Zider:

that would probably be even better yes

[19:31:08]

Zider:

why diskless? because of noiseor..?

[19:31:37]

Paladine:

well cost too

[19:31:39]

J-e-f-f-A:

Zider: Yeah, complete silence and less power. (Well, except for the small fan)

[19:31:48]

Paladine:

why spend money on a HD if you don't need it

[19:32:05]

Zider:

well, why spend money on a CF then? ;)

[19:32:15]

Paladine:

maybe he already had it :p

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J-e-f-f-A:

Zider: Yeah, I bought it for my old digital camera... But now I use SD... ;-)

[19:32:42]

Zider:

I would go with a 2,5" hdd, they're practically noiseless

[19:32:58]

Zider:

or just netboot from some other system

[19:33:24]

J-e-f-f-A:

Zider: I'll probably just setup netboot from my backend.

[19:33:41]

Zider:

you do that

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Leebier:

i'm having trouble with myth adhering to the minimum free space setting, it continually records until the hard drive fills and then the backend crashes

[19:50:36]

frankrizzo:

kormoc, you still here?

[19:51:01]

frankrizzo:

the whole problem was that xorg.conf was using vesa drivers

[19:51:08]

frankrizzo:

well yo knew that

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frankrizzo:

but they are all working now, in 720p

[19:51:48]

frankrizzo:

happy day

[19:51:48]

J-e-f-f-A:

frankrizzo: Nice... :-)

[19:51:57]

kormoc:

niftyness

[19:52:05]

frankrizzo:

i need to up the recording quality, cuz now the picture is grainy

[19:52:11]

frankrizzo:

but at least it doesnt jitter

[19:52:17]

frankrizzo:

it was dropping frames like crazy before

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Leebier:

and i'd rather not autoexpire programs

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firefly2442:

Are there any fairly stable Ubuntu binary .deb packages yet for 0.20?

[19:57:09]

J-e-f-f-A:

Zider: Are you familiar with netboot setup?

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KaiForce:

no joy, same error. I copied the firmware to the location specified by ivtvdriver.org, but I'm still getting this error when trying to install ivtv: Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin is needed by package ivtv-kmdl-2.6.14–1.1653_FC4. Is there any way to tell yum to ignore a specific dependency.

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Zider:

J-e-f-f-A: never tried it

[19:57:52]

J-e-f-f-A:

Zider: Thanks.

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Zider:

np

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petelong:

Hi all. I am wondering if someone could point me at any information/advice on compiling mythplugins-20.0 for the xbox frontend?

[20:09:41]

KaiForce:

http://bugzilla.atrpms.net/show_bug.cgi?id=710 looks like a known bug

[20:19:18]

jemarcks:

anybody have a SA3250 connected via firewire?

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KaiForce:

removing the ivtv components and reinstalling them worked.

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monkeyBox:

Hi! I put got a second PVR-150 in my MythTV box. Do I have to do anything special for the IVTV drivers to recognize it and give me a /dev/videoX node?

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monkeypet:

monkeyBox: No.

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fryfrog:

anyone heard of this nbc show called "heroes"?

[20:32:49]

Syn-:

yeah

[20:32:53]

Syn-:

starts monday

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fryfrog:

look like its any good?

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monkeypet:

fryfrog: yes, I am recording it.

[20:33:02]

monkeyBox:

fryfrog: yeah, can't wait :-)

[20:33:02]

Syn-:

starts monday

[20:33:05]

Syn-:

previews look great

[20:33:07]

Syn-:

YATA!

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monkeypet:

monkeyBox: just add a capture card in mythtvsetup

[20:33:33]

monkeypet:

Can you say xmen rip?

[20:33:36]

fryfrog:

i think i will too :)

[20:33:37]

Syn-:

http://tv.yahoo.com/feature/fall06/?d=200

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Syn-:

you can view a snippet of it there

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firefly2442:

Anyone tried the deb packages in the Ubuntu Edgy repository for 0.20?

[20:33:50]

monkeypet:

I am anxiously awaiting battlestar!

[20:34:09]

firefly2442:

monkeypet: YES, did you grab season 2.5 yet? ;)

[20:34:11]

monkeyBox:

monkeypet: When I run ivtv-detect, it shows both cards, and shows the first at /dev/video0 and the second at /dev/video1. For some reason, the /dev/video0 won't record.

[20:34:18]

fryfrog:

wow, only one HD card and I don't have any conflicts yet !

[20:34:30]

monkeyBox:

I guess I should probably mention that the first card is a PVR-250 and the newer one is the PVR-150.

[20:34:37]

ChrisSmol:

i'm still trying to get an old ixmicro turbotv card to work. i found some card/tuner settings that let me tune to each channel and hear the correct audio. and some settings will give me mistuned video on two channels (5 and 6). any suggestions on how to proceed?

[20:34:48]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: I don't think it should matter...

[20:35:15]

monkeyBox:

monkeypet: strange. When I cat /dev/video0 to a file, the file is just 0 bytes.

[20:35:20]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: When I popped in my second 150 (primary was 350), I just added the capture card in setup and I was done.

[20:35:28]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: Which drivers you using?

[20:36:01]

monkeyBox:

monkeypet: I'm using ivtv-0.7.0

[20:36:16]

fryfrog:

anyone using 2.6.18 kernel and know what the deal with ivtv is?

[20:36:17]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: That's what I am using.

[20:36:37]

monkeyBox:

strange. I wonder what's wrong :-P

[20:37:11]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: You check the obvious like permissions problem, right?

[20:37:57]

monkeyBox:

monkeypet: yeah, /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 have the same permissions

[20:38:21]

firefly2442:

Is it easier to install 0.20 from source or wrestle with binary package dependencies?

[20:38:31]

monkeyBox:

monkeypet would it have anything to do w/ firmware?

[20:38:36]

kormoc:

firefly2442, depends on you

[20:38:49]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: Oh wait, I remember something about firmware...

[20:38:50]

fryfrog:

firefly2442: prolly also depends on your distro

[20:38:57]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: You using the latest?

[20:39:03]

firefly2442:

fryfrog: Ubuntu Dapper

[20:40:01]

monkeyBox:

monkeypet.. not sure.. how do I check? I installed ivtv from gentoo package

[20:40:08]

firefly2442:

what version are you guys running?

[20:40:39]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: Read on the ivtv site... make sure the checksum matches the latest.

[20:40:46]

monkeyBox:

ok

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monkeyBox:

thanks

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firefly2442:

hmm, I'll try installing via the source

[20:44:13]

monkeypet:

firefly2442: I am lazy, would never install from source....

[20:44:36]

monkeypet:

firefly2442: how is ubuntu?? did you switch from fedora?

[20:44:51]

firefly2442:

monkeypet: no, been using it for some time now

[20:44:56]

fryfrog:

firefly2442: i'd go for packages first

[20:45:08]

fryfrog:

firefly2442: ubuntu / debian is decent about package dependancies

[20:45:18]

firefly2442:

monkeypet: I like it a lot, yeah, there are packages in Edgy which is the next release but there are dependency issues

[20:45:33]

firefly2442:

fryfrog: yeah, I guess I could try forcing it

[20:45:45]

fryfrog:

any other good shows starting up? i see quite a few premiers

[20:45:48]

fryfrog:

like "Desire"?

[20:45:59]

fryfrog:

looks and sounds like a desperate house wives kinda thing

[20:46:03]

monkeypet:

fryfrog: Oh, I don't like desire.

[20:46:09]

fryfrog:

you've seen it?

[20:46:11]

fryfrog:

or previews?

[20:46:18]

fryfrog:

and this "Standoff" ??

[20:46:22]

monkeypet:

fryfrog: No, I don't like the previews, too dark for me.

[20:46:25]

fryfrog:

lot of shows i've never heard of :/

[20:46:29]

fryfrog:

oh, its dark?

[20:46:49]

monkeypet:

fryfrog: Is it the one with the lottery winners?

[20:47:20]

fryfrog:

it said "two ?brothers? on the lamb from the mob, fall in love with some lady and fight for her"

[20:47:23]

fryfrog:

or something

[20:47:33]

fryfrog:

looks like it conflicts with other stuff i'm recording, oh well

[20:48:00]

fryfrog:

I'm impressed, with only one tuner i'm actually not getting many conflicts.

[20:48:12]

fryfrog:

a few years ago, *all* the shows i liked were on the same night at the same time :)

[20:49:16]

monkeypet:

I want to see more scifi on television.

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monkeypet:

serenity series was quite good.

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fryfrog:

i wish sci-fi channel were HD :(

[20:49:47]

monkeypet:

Loved the movie also.

[20:49:52]

fryfrog:

firefly you mean :)

[20:50:00]

fryfrog:

Eureka is actually decent

[20:50:30]

monkeypet:

farscape was kinda dumb...

[20:50:43]

fryfrog:

SHUT YOUR MOUTH WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO ME!

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fryfrog:

farscape rules

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monkeypet:

lol.

[20:51:14]

fryfrog:

though the last season was a bit lame :(

[20:51:24]

fryfrog:

and the movie they made to "tie it all up" was disappoing

[20:51:28]

fryfrog:

disappointing

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fryfrog:

any other interesting shows coming out?

[20:51:58]

monkeypet:

I didn't understand the last season, did they run out of money that's why the characters all went away?

[20:52:00]

fryfrog:

wtf is "Smith"?

[20:52:14]

fryfrog:

they canceled the show half way through the season

[20:52:19]

fryfrog:

didn't even wrap it up

[20:52:31]

fryfrog:

just stopped on a "to be continued..." episode

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fryfrog:

it was lame

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monkeypet:

Babylon 5 by far is the best ever!

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andruk:

hello, i am trying to install mythtv, and i have run into this problem. ./ivtvfwextract.pl: Can't open /tmp/ivtvex.19931/hcwpvrp2.sys: No such file or directory so, can i just go out and retrieve that file and create that directory?

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fryfrog:

okay, you aren't as bad as i thought :)

[20:53:37]

fryfrog:

b5 > farscape > firefly :)

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Anduin:

andruk: Just download the tarbal from ivtvdriver.org

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fryfrog:

star trek goes in there somewhere

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fryfrog:

but star wars is for bitches, sorry

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BULLE:

andruk: that seems to indicate a problem with ivtv, that has nothign to do with mythtv

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monkeypet:

nono, deep space 9, babylon 5, fiefly.

[20:54:03]

BULLE:

andruk: what distro as you using ?

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fryfrog:

i couldn't stand ds9 :p

[20:54:22]

fryfrog:

tng, ftw

[20:54:37]

fryfrog:

heard of "Brothers & Sisters"?

[20:54:44]

monkeypet:

fryfrog: You need to watch the whole thing... best series every!

[20:54:50]

andruk:

Anduin: thats where i got it from, and im following the mythtv install FAQ. BULLE: ubuntu dapper (2.6.15-27–386)

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monkeypet:

fryfrog: (talking about ds9).

[20:55:09]

fryfrog:

maybe that was the problem

[20:55:13]

fryfrog:

i gave up after season 1 or 2

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Anduin:

andruk: If you has the firmware tarball you wouldn't be trying to extract anything

[20:55:18]

Anduin:

had even

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fryfrog:

then, that crap about the dominion annoyed me even more when i tried later

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monkeypet:

fryfrog: they even ended it right...

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firefly2442:

BattleStar is the best (the new one... obviously) ;)

[20:55:31]

fryfrog:

course, not as bad as voyager :p

[20:55:39]

fryfrog:

oh shit, i forgot about battlestar

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monkeypet:

fryfrog: best ending ever in a trek...

[20:55:42]

fryfrog:

yeah, battlestar > * :)

[20:55:46]

fryfrog:

what happened?

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Anduin:

firefly2442: Older was so much better

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BULLE:

andruk: i bet there are prebuilt packages for ubuntu dapper

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fryfrog:

older, lame. new, rule

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BULLE:

andruk: use those instead

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andruk:

i believe the tarball includes this script, and the FAQ instructs you to run it. FAQ = http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Knoppmyth

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firefly2442:

Anduin: I saw some of the older ones.... eh, wasn't really impressed, maybe I had to be there when they first came out :)

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monkeypet:

fryfrog: they brought everything full circle.... ds9 is awesome!

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andruk:

Anduin: i believe the tarball includes this script, and the FAQ instructs you to run it. FAQ = http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ

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Anduin:

firefly2442: I was only tyring to make the discussion drag out

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fryfrog:

okay, time to go check on the woman in the bathtub :)

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firefly2442:

:)

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andruk:

BULLE: what do you mean and where can i find them?

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Anduin:

andruk: http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/firmware/firmware.tar.gz

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Anduin:

andruk: A link to that is on ivtvdriver.org's firmware page

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BULLE:

andruk: i dont run ubuntu, but i bet there are prebuilt packages for both mythv and the ivtv driver for ubuntu

[20:59:07]

BULLE:

andruk: not using proper pacakges is a sure way to break your ubuntu installation

[20:59:15]

andruk:

BULLE: so you mean use apt-get or synaptic?

[20:59:20]

J-e-f-f-A:

Anyone here try "MythDora"? If so, how do you like it?

[20:59:20]

BULLE:

yes

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Anduin:

andruk: are you running edgy?

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andruk:

BULLE: cuz thats what the FAQs say to use, and then they tell you to do this stuff. and no, im running dapper drake

[20:59:57]

andruk:

Anduin: dapper drake

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firefly2442:

andruk: did you get the Edgy packages installed?

[21:00:24]

firefly2442:

andruk: I was just about to try that right now....

[21:00:52]

andruk:

firefly2442: i dont think i did.

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kormoc:

BULLE, ubuntu only offically supports myth 0.18, not 0.19 or 0.20, and their 0.18 doesn't work with the version of mysql they ship with

[21:01:04]

kormoc:

BULLE, so there's really only unoffical packages for ubunutu

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Anduin:

I hear 0.20 is in edgy

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firefly2442:

Anduin: it is

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firefly2442:

installing it under Dapper is proving to be difficult however.... grrrr

[21:02:02]

andruk:

firefly: no, i definitely just used drake's multiverse

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BULLE:

kormoc: he, never thought ubuntu would be that broken

[21:02:20]

hads:

Installing from source isn't that bad.

[21:02:24]

andruk:

firefly2442: when is edgy due out?

[21:02:47]

firefly2442:

dunno, I think fairly soon though since they pushed back the released of Dapper a month

[21:02:48]

BULLE:

kormoc: and even with unofficial packages, i would think they woudl automate the firmware installation, as they do in gentoo, and fedora and mandriva

[21:03:13]

hads:

Edgy is due for beta in less than a week

[21:03:24]

firefly2442:

https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy

[21:03:30]

kormoc:

doesn't seem to, hearing the storys in here, it seems like ubuntu is the worse platform to istall myth and ivtv on

[21:03:53]

firefly2442:

yeah, they have 0.18 but.... that's really old

[21:04:10]

firefly2442:

all their other packages are great, no problems... but mythtv.... *sigh*

[21:04:42]

hads:

kormoc: I think it was you I was talking to the other day about my new install having a hard lockup problem.

[21:05:35]

hads:

I've recompiled without XvMC and OpenGL support and everything appears to be stable. Now I have to re-enable one at a time and see which one was causing the problem.

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** kormoc nods **

[21:06:18]

andruk:

okay, i think ill just do knoppmyth for the time being...

[21:06:23]

andruk:

thanks guys!

[21:08:02]

BULLE:

andruk: or just use fedora or gentoo or some other linux dist with decent mythtv packages

[21:08:07]

BULLE:

or just use knoppmuth as you say

[21:08:16]

andruk:

lol

[21:08:43]

andruk:

yeah, so far i have been very happy with ubuntu...but now that i got a PVR...

[21:09:01]

firefly2442:

Is Gentoo tough to install?

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janneg:

anyone with a dish directed to Astra 19.2E here?

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kusznir:

hi all: my myth system seems to be misdrawing the boxes in the watch recordings screen. The border around the box with the actual programs is gone, and the program names are written over the right edge of the border for the catagories. What causes this?

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kusznir:

(I just rebuilt my myth system, and now have the problem; I've never run into it previously)

[21:12:18]

firefly2442:

later all, off to learn about Fedora, maybe that will be a little easier to install MythTV :)

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janneg:

Dibblah: Do you get Astra 19.2E?

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hads:

kusznir: I'm a nub but I noticed that a couple of times. Have you tried switching themes and then switching back again?

[21:13:25]

hads:

I'm guessing that recreates a cache or something as that has fixed it for me. There is possibly an easier way to do that though.

[21:13:37]

monkeyBox:

monkeypet: I can't figure this out. It looks like there are two different sets of firmware for each card. ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download (down towards the bottom)

[21:13:41]

kusznir:

nope; I'll try that. It looks kinda like the font size is too big now, even though its set the same. I'm not sure I'm running at the same resolution I was before, but I manually set my "displaysize" to get 100 dpi.

[21:14:14]

BULLE:

kusznir: i have the same problem, the font gets "clipped" a bit, due to it being to large

[21:14:24]

monkeyBox:

Theres a set for the 250–350 and a set for the 150–500

[21:14:31]

BULLE:

kusznir: you happen to use fedora by any chance ?

[21:14:56]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: um, i use one firmware for both.

[21:14:57]

Dibblah:

janneg: No :(

[21:15:02]

kusznir:

No, I'm actually using KnoppMyth. I use fedora on other linux boxes, and adminiser 200+ RedHat systems in my "real" job, though :)

[21:15:05]

BULLE:

monkeyBox: that might very well be the case, the 250 and 350 are a bit older, and the 150 and 500 a newer desgin

[21:15:22]

monkeyBox:

monkeypet: which firmware do you use?

[21:15:23]

Dibblah:

Not enough space on my dish inbetween 13.0 and 28.2 :(

[21:16:21]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: let me checksum it... hold.

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janneg:

Dibblah: I need someone to confirm broken encoding of EIT for some channels

[21:17:05]

Dibblah:

No real way I can get that for you :(

[21:17:06]

monkeyBox:

monkeypet: also, where do you keep your firmware files? The wiki says they should be in /usr/local/hotplug/firmware

[21:17:31]

kusznir:

Ok, I just switched to tivilis them (from G.N.A.T), and now everything is drawing correctly.

[21:17:42]

Dibblah:

(I use a dish with an offset LNB for hotbird)

[21:17:51]

kusznir:

(although aparently my tuners arn't changing channels reliably.....)

[21:18:30]

kusznir:

Dibblah: whare can I find info about these "other" birds I can pick up and what equipment is necessary? All I know about is DTV and Dish, and I'm curious about what else is out there.

[21:18:41]

Dibblah:

Nothing.

[21:19:01]

Dibblah:

The interesting birds are under the NA horizon.

[21:19:32]

Dibblah:

lyngsat has orbital positions for everything. Have a browse.

[21:20:07]

kusznir:

Cool, thanks for the site!

[21:20:23]

janneg:

Dibblah: np, I will find someone else

[21:22:09]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: i think mine are in /lib/modules... also using the ver from the twiki page.

[21:23:51]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: no, i am using the first one listed here.. http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware_versions

[21:23:57]

monkeyBox:

hmm.. it looks like my distro ivtv package installs both firmwares

[21:24:18]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: my md5sum matches them.

[21:26:12]

monkeyBox:

yeah, my md5sums check out fine also.

[21:26:59]

monkeyBox:

when does the firmware actually get loaded onto the card? when I modprobe ivtv?

[21:28:20]

monkeypet:

monkeyBox: yes.

[21:31:16]

monkeyBox:

damn. I can't figure this out :-(

[21:31:31]

Paladine:

ahhh too many monkey and not enough zoo keepers

[21:32:34]

Paladine:

I wish Icould pre-order all the issues of my rc car magazine so they all arrive at once

[21:32:41]

chairman:

is there anyway to make different channel lists in mythtv

[21:32:48]

Paladine:

I hate that I have to wait til next summer to get all the parts

[21:34:01]

chairman:

I'm using mythtv with dvb and I have a lot of channel. Some I rarely watch so I don't want them to be in the daily channel list

[21:34:10]

chairman:

channels

[21:35:14]

chairman:

and is it possible to change the channels numbers

[21:35:40]

chairman:

so that I have the most used channels after each other

[21:36:46]

Puh:

yes?

[21:37:13]

chairman:

what is the easiest way of doing it?

[21:37:31]

Puh:

shut down your mythbackend and run mythtv-setup on the backend machine

[21:37:58]

Puh:

the last selection on the mythtv-setup menu gives you channel editing

[21:38:15]

Puh:

you can tweak your channel numbers there

[21:39:52]

Puh:

has anyone tried stuarts patch for channel scanning?

[21:40:16]

Puh:

i can do that tomorrow i think if it hasn't been done yet

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Fnc:

where is this stuarts patch your talking about?

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Juski:

prolly the dvb-c scanning stuff mentioned on the -dev list

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** J-e-f-f-A is trying to figure out this network boot stuff... ugghhh... **

[22:09:08]

Juski:

oh it's all fun

[22:09:41]

Juski:

J-e-f-f-A: easy-ish once you have a working dhcp server, though some bootp servers can do everything all in one, I read today

[22:09:58]

J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: I've got DHCP working and assiging a static ip... and tftp is apparently working, but now to get the right stuff in the directories on the server...

[22:10:39]

Juski:

J-e-f-f-A: when you say tftp is apparently working... ? does that mean you've tested it by grabbing a file over it?

[22:11:11]

monkeypet:

Juski: Yah, I got one for xp that does dhcp,bootp,tftp....

[22:11:36]

J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: It's getting the IP, and since I've setup TFTP, the system is now saying "TFTP open timeout", which is more than I got before I setup the tftp server...

[22:11:40]

Juski:

like I'd entrust that to windows XP.. pfft

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Juski:

J-e-f-f-A: you can use a tftp client on the same machine to get a test file you slap in the tftp root dir

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J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: What do I need to throw in there, a kernel file?

[22:12:41]

Juski:

J-e-f-f-A: you'll possibly be lacking a PXE Boot image..

[22:13:04]

Juski:

I've done it 2 ways in the past... (today was the 2nd method)...

[22:13:20]

Juski:

1. make a pxe bootable grub bootloader

[22:13:30]

Juski:

see the grub docs on how to do that

[22:13:41]

Juski:

2. grab a pxe bootloader from syslinux...

[22:13:47]

J-e-f-f-A:

Juski. Thanks... I'll take a look

[22:13:59]

Juski:

this page was a great help to me today... http://parker1.co.uk/epia_minimyth.php

[22:14:52]

Juski:

of course for nfsrooting you need a kernel with networking built in (for your ethernet controller)

[22:15:20]

Juski:

modular ethernet drivers are no use for netbooting ;-)

[22:15:21]

J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: Ok, that's what I plan on doing...

[22:15:45]

Juski:

the hardest bit for me was working out where the hell to put the files

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k-man_:

what is the opengl transitions supposed to do?

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Juski:

oh and the syntax of the files... in.tftpd took some figuring out a while ago

[22:16:18]

Juski:

k-man_: fade between menu screens

[22:16:38]

J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: It's an Intel card, so hopefully I'll find one before I give up and throw a hdd in there!

[22:17:28]

Juski:

J-e-f-f-A: you can always make a USB stick bootable & just get it to mount your nfs root that way

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k-man_:

juski... i turned it on but nothing seems to have changed

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Juski:

been there, done that – handy for boards which don't support PXE

[22:18:19]

Juski:

k-man_: you need to restart mythfrontend

[22:18:25]

k-man_:

Juski, oh, ok

[22:18:44]

k-man_:

also, i thought .20 was supposed to have some feature to anable it to auto mount flash drives, is that correct?

[22:19:18]

Juski:

no idea about that & I don't care for such stuff

[22:19:25]

k-man_:

ok, thanks

[22:19:48]

Juski:

I think it _does_ support removable media better – dunno about mounting the media itself though

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k-man_:

ok

[22:20:12]

Juski:

look up a howto on automounting with your distro

[22:20:45]

k-man_:

ok

[22:21:27]

J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: I also have a CF/IDE adapter, so I was thinking I could boot off of that, then switch to NFS. Basically the same as the usb stick option...

[22:21:30]

frankrizzo:

arggg, its a real pain getting a hd lcd tv working properly with x server

[22:21:48]

Juski:

just been genning up on replacing brake discs on my car... seems scary though I've helped my dad do that a few times

[22:21:54]

scopeuk:

pain gettign a hd lcd tv workign period

[22:22:08]

scopeuk:

Juski its not as bad as it looks

[22:22:27]

Juski:

parts cost £75, best quote I've had for a shop to do it is £200

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J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: Hey, I'll do your brakes if you fix my network boot... ;-) Brakes are simple! ;-)

[22:22:55]

Juski:

I'd be less nervous if there was a Haynes manual for my car

[22:23:04]

scopeuk:

what car is it?

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Dibblah:

Network boot is easy.

[22:23:12]

Juski:

scopeuk: Seat Leon

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frankrizzo:

any pointers scopeuk, no one else in the nvidia or xorg channels seem to be able to help

[22:23:27]

scopeuk:

whats it doing wrong?

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scopeuk:

Juski there isent a haynes for the leon thats shocking

[22:23:58]

frankrizzo:

well my tv wants to do 1366x768, x serve doesnt want much to do with that

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frankrizzo:

I am using the dvi/hmdi cable

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Juski:

ooooo! it's being 'considered' for publication now... better than "there are no plans at present..."

[22:24:26]

J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: What is a "Seat Leon" — Is that a "Seat" for a guy named "Leon" to sit in? (Never heard of it!)

[22:24:38]

frankrizzo:

and it looks like at this point I am having overscan problems...picture quality is pretty nice in kde, but when I get into Mythtv the colors are distorted

[22:24:44]

BULLE:

Juski: what is considererd for publication ?

[22:24:52]

Juski:

J-e-f-f-A: pronounced "say-at" ;-)

[22:25:06]

scopeuk:

and its a small car

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k-man_:

when i restart mythfrontend with the gl turned on, it always starts in the video viewer

[22:25:08]

Juski:

BULLE: the Haynes service manual for the model of car I drive

[22:25:16]

BULLE:

aha

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BULLE:

i was thinking it was something you had written

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Syn-:

so, all the dvds ive tried playing give me the error that i dont have encrypted supported and i havent been able to find the xine-d4d-plugin, anyone know where i can get it?

[22:25:42]

Juski:

so by the time I'm rid of the car, there might be a Haynes manual for it... woo!

[22:25:43]

Dibblah:

http://cgi.ebay.ie/SEAT-Leon-1999-2005-Worksh . . . cmdZViewItem

[22:25:55]

J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: Would it be easier for me to throw a HDD in here, build the OS, then switch it to diskless?

[22:26:30]

Dibblah:

J-e-f-f-A: What OS?

[22:26:36]

Juski:

J-e-f-f-A: maybe, though nfsrooting isn't much slower (if at all) than with a HDD

[22:26:41]

Dibblah:

What distribution, even...

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J-e-f-f-A:

Dibblah: FC4

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Juski:

Dibblah: nice one! gave up after learning haynes didn't have a manual.. pfft

[22:27:27]

Dibblah:

Haynes is the Playboy of service manuals :)

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J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: I'd just like to build this as a diskless frontend, so it's quiet.

[22:27:55]

Juski:

car service manuals on computers.. what WILL they think of next?

[22:28:02]

Juski:

:-P

[22:28:27]

Juski:

J-e-f-f-A: good call. though HDDs generally aren't the biggest causes of noise in PCs

[22:28:29]

frankrizzo:

scopeuk, so any thoughts?

[22:28:58]

monkeypet:

Juski: the hd is the nosiest part of mine. I have like 8 of them in my tower!

[22:29:24]

Dibblah:

J-e-f-f-A: I know how to do it on Gentoo :(

[22:29:29]

Juski:

J-e-f-f-A: depending on which tftp server you're using, you'll need to edit a config file. for the tftp server on my gentoo box (RIP, from tomorrow btw), it's in.tftpd

[22:30:05]

scopeuk:

frankrizzo not rearly

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Juski:

the config file tells the tftp server where to look for the bootloader. you might also need to edit a file to tell the server which ethernet controller to use

[22:31:28]

Dibblah:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Diskless_Install

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J-e-f-f-A:

Juski: It looks like that's working fine (dhcp/bootp), and tftp now gives a timeout on the client, whereas before it wasn't doing anything. So now I've just got to put the appropriate stuff in the dirs on the server...

[22:31:45]

Dibblah:

Will give you a few pointers. Ignore the Gentoo specifics, of course.

[22:31:55]

J-e-f-f-A:

Dibblah: Thanks-- I'll take a look at that.

[22:33:42]

jemarcks:

Hey, I switched to a newer kernel and now my nvidia and ivtv drivers dont load. How do i fix it?

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Anduin:

jemarcks: rebuild them

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degreseven:

modules need to be rebuilt when you switch kernels

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jemarcks:

anduin, cant i install them?

[22:36:55]

jemarcks:

im following Jarods guide to set up my box

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Anduin:

jemarcks: how would you do that?

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Anduin:

jemarcks: so you are using atrpms?

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jemarcks:

yum -y install ivtv?

[22:37:15]

jemarcks:

yeah

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Anduin:

jemarcks: yum update should do it, if not, yeah specific installs/updates

[22:38:02]

jemarcks:

ok.. ill try

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jemarcks:

thx

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frankrizzo:

My recording quality seems grainy, what settings might I change to up the quality

[22:44:04]

frankrizzo:

or rather, my playback quality, which means to me that the recording quality is low

[22:44:52]

Anduin:

frankrizzo: recording profiles

[22:46:18]

frankrizzo:

what should I set it to if I am outputting to a widescreen hd tv?

[22:46:31]

frankrizzo:

the default is currently set to 720 x 480

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Anduin:

frankrizzo: That isn't the only setting, but play with it until you like it.

[22:47:39]

frankrizzo:

ive played with those and they dont seem to make a difference

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Paladine:

who maintains mythvideo?

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Anduin:

Paladine: why?

[22:51:59]

Paladine:

just curious if it is best to add a request for mythvideo to the mythfrontend wishlist or somewhere else

[22:53:10]

Paladine:

I would like to add a request for preservation of the filters set in "Manage Videos" to the browse/gallery and list sections

[22:55:01]

Anduin:

Paladine: There is a plugins wishlist for MythVideo

[22:55:31]

Anduin:

Paladine: So you want one filter for everything?

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Anduin:

(You can create filters for each view... and save them)

[22:56:02]

Paladine:

Anduin, no I would like a filter for the mythvideo browse/gallery and list sections

[22:56:15]

Paladine:

I can't see anywhere to add filters for those sections

[22:57:07]

Paladine:

cos my episode of 24 are not listed in the correct order for any of those section of mythvideo

[22:57:28]

Anduin:

Paladine: hit f in gallery, in list it isn't there (mostly because list was added by someone who hated metadata)

[22:57:36]

frankrizzo:

Anduin, I jacked up the bitrate, the aspect ratio, and the recording resolution is set to 720 x 480 and the quality looks the same as I started

[22:57:41]

frankrizzo:

is there anything else I can do?

[22:57:51]

Paladine:

oh cool you are a star :)

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Anduin:

frankrizzo: How are you judging?

[22:57:59]

Paladine:

the only instructions on the screen are menu andinfo

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Paladine:

thats much better :)

[22:59:01]

antiProzac:

where can I find some instruction on getting nvidia TV-Out to work. I am using the nvidia driver(from nvidia.com). I need help setting up my xorg.conf now

[22:59:18]

frankrizzo:

antiProzac, good luck.....

[22:59:23]

Anduin:

antiProzac: many guides, and the README that comes with the driver

[22:59:26]

frankrizzo:

ive been messing with it for 4 hours

[22:59:28]

Paladine:

its the metadata naming convention for 24 that was causing the problems because the names are set by time

[22:59:31]

LLyric:

It's easy. Read the docs that came with the driver.

[22:59:33]

frankrizzo:

what type of output are you using?

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antiProzac:

frankrizzo: I've been at it 2 days. at some point someone posted me the Options and Screen section I needed and evreything worked. But my hd crapped out on me and I rebuilt the box since

[23:00:17]

Paladine:

episode 1 is 8am-9am, episode 2 is 9am-10am then once it gets to episode 3 the default filter puts it to the top of the list because it is 10am-11am and 1 comes before 8 :)

[23:00:31]

Paladine:

so I have it filtered by filename which I have set to avoid sort issues :)

[23:00:45]

LLyric:

Basically, just add >>Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"<<

[23:00:50]

LLyric:

That should get you started.

[23:00:54]

LLyric:

Tweak from there.

[23:01:14]

Paladine:

thanks Anduin :)

[23:01:18]

frankrizzo:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/TV-Out_with_GeForce

[23:01:46]

Paladine:

hey Anduin, we have a server on our irc network called anduin.net :)

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Paladine:

not yours is it?

[23:02:08]

FryZonE:

hey, can anyone help me with a recording problem I'm having

[23:02:20]

FryZonE:

for some reason, It won't let me record anythign anymore

[23:02:44]

Anduin:

Paladine: Nope, I'm anduin.com :)

[23:02:47]

FryZonE:

it buffers, and I'm able to manually "record" pushing the r key, but I cannot set it to record

[23:03:08]

FryZonE:

trying to do a manual record

[23:03:11]

Paladine:

sadly paladine.com has been taken for over a decade

[23:03:14]

Paladine:

so I am paladine.org.uk

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FryZonE:

all I get for [Select Recording Schedule] is the option to "Do Not Record the program"

[23:04:20]

FryZonE:

have any ideas?? :(

[23:05:36]

Anduin:

Paladine: Yeah, my options were somewhat open at the time, I only grabbed the one though now all reasonable variants are gone.

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Paladine:

my best two domains though are web-d-zine.net and naked-geek.tv :)

[23:06:40]

Anduin:

eek, won't be clicking on those

[23:06:50]

Paladine:

one day I will setup a cam portal for naked-geek.tv or something similar

[23:06:55]

FryZonE:

no one has any ideas??

[23:07:16]

Paladine:

Anduin, my old company was incorporated as Naked Geek Networks Ltd. hehe

[23:07:31]

Anduin:

FryZonE: do non manual recordings work (do you have guide data)?

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Paladine:

should have seen the lawyers face when I incorporated :)

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FryZonE:

I don;t have a guide... Its coming in form my dish box... It was working about 2 days ago

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FryZonE:

I used ot set it to manual record, then go into record this show only, then select my input and it was all good

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FryZonE:

now, I cannot get it to do anything

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FryZonE:

only option is "do not record"

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FryZonE:

:(

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Anduin:

FryZonE: Why does originating from the dish box exclude guide info?

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FryZonE:

never out any in before... always used its own guide

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FryZonE:

had

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FryZonE:

i would use the auto tune option

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FryZonE:

for some reason now, nothing records :(

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FryZonE:

only if I use the R key

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Anduin:

FryZonE: anything interesting in the backend log?

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FryZonE:

nothing that I ca see

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FryZonE:

just did a reboot, hold on one sec

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hjohnson:

it seems that Hauppauge changes tuner modules as often as I change underwear.

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JohnQ:

what winblows app can play a nuv file?

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FryZonE:

kinda weird that it is now doing this

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FryZonE:

JUst recorded Smith, Survivor, and CSI this week... now notta :(

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Anduin:

FryZonE: This is when you go to create a new manual recording?

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Aid1:

Anyone here mess with getting dishnetwork FreeToAir channels?

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Aid1:

using a dish network dish

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FryZonE:

yulp

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FryZonE:

only option "do not record"

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Aid1:

i was scanning the list and i found Starz, HBO, HBO HD, Discovery HD, and Encore. all unencrypted in the clear!

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FryZonE:

i used to have record only this show, this time, etc

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J-e-f-f-A:

Aid1: Huh? What hardware?

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FryZonE:

maybe delete my tuner and try again?

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Aid1:

J-e-f-f-A: using the dishnetwork dish and a DVB receiver... im wondering if you got it or not

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Aid1:

i just found the list online, but its nighttime here so im going to wait till tomorrow to test my theory

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Aid1:

and if someone tells me im wasting my time i wont even bother then

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J-e-f-f-A:

Aid1: I'm in the us, and don't have a DVB receiver... I use Dish, but with real receivers. (3x)

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Aid1:

yeah i have the dish too but dont have daylight to try it out atm

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Aid1:

ill let you know what happens

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J-e-f-f-A:

Aid1: Are you in the us?

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Aid1:

yes

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Aid1:

http://www.lyngsat.com/echo1.html

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J-e-f-f-A:

Aid1: (just about to ask that... thanks)

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Aid1:

its something worth looking into... even if i can't get any signal

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J-e-f-f-A:

What's your DVB receiver?

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Aid1:

i have a Coship3188c

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Aid1:

and a Technisat Skystar2 pci card

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Anduin:

FryZonE: What about when you edit an existing one?

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Aid1:

if i can get starz, hbo and encore all for free, its worth paying $80 for a receiver after like 8months of usage or something

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JohnQ:

interesting... the debian packages dont contain the contrib scripts? like mythrename.pl

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ShockValue:

anyone have experience with a cheap USB 5.1 audio solution for mythtv?

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scopeuk:

how cheap and is it suported by linux?

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scopeuk:

or is that what your asking?

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ShockValue:

thats what im looking for.. i havent used one, but would like to buy one

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Zider:

why not pci?

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scopeuk:

fair enough

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ShockValue:

my current machine only does analog out

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ShockValue:

no pci slots

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scopeuk:

whats using them?

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Zider:

ah

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ShockValue:

nothing. its a mini machine.

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J-e-f-f-A:

scopeuk: His box ain't got none... it's a micro pc...

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scopeuk:

fair neough

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scopeuk:

seams kinda daft idea to me but then again i like atx towers

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RaYmAn-Bx:

cheap and usb are generally not good signs =P

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ShockValue:

its a 3ghz HD frontend only. works great, but i would like 5.1 sound

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ShockValue:

i dont mind atx towers, but they have lower WAF, and i already have the other box in my possesion :)

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scopeuk:

fair enough

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ShockValue:

found this one, looked ok. but who knows how well it works in linux :) http://www.sunix.com.tw/en/Promotion-1.php?sid=290

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ShockValue:

$20

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scopeuk:

google "product name here " linux driver /kernal modual

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RaYmAn-Bx:

s/kernal modual/kernel module/ ;)

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RaYmAn-Bx:

but I suppose it is rather late =P

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scopeuk:

thankyou

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scopeuk:

no my spelling jsut sucks on ice

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scopeuk:

my typing too apparently

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scopeuk:

http://www.sunix.com.tw/it/en/Product_Detail. . . . &sid=392

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scopeuk:

says suports windows no mention of linux

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ShockValue:

yeah, currently searching for CM101 chipset support

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scopeuk:

yeh me too lol

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scopeuk:

http://www.cmedia.com.tw/?q=en/USB/CM101

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scopeuk:

thats the baby

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scopeuk:

ok guys i forgot the site whats the one where you drop in a vendor id and check if the device is supported under linux

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ShockValue:

ohh i like that it has optical output though.. my reciever does that

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FryZonE:

ell, deleted tuner, re-added and now it works just fine

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scopeuk:

http://www.sondigo.com/sirocco/cmediacoupon?u . . . ia%2Bsirocco

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scopeuk:

that looks far more fun

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scopeuk:

more of a laptop thing though i guess

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Anduin:

FryZonE: Why not use the guide and an IR blaster?

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scopeuk:

well they dont hold back on the data sheet

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JohnQ:

CRAP!

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scopeuk:

someoen competent could write a driver

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ShockValue:

i'd be affraid of latency with wireless audio

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scopeuk:

i was thinking for music off uor laptop or i spose wit ha suitable firmware hack one ofthe wifi enabled mp3 players

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scopeuk:

or a palmtop whould be even better

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scopeuk:

resonable money shame i have no use what so ever for one atm

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scopeuk:

i have no wirelessdevices and my sound systems is dedicated to my desktop

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JohnQ:

sigh. Can you undelete reliably on jfs?

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FryZonE:

Don't have IR blaster right now.. no remote either... can't seem to get LIRC to work

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Anduin:

FryZonE: whice lirc device?

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JohnQ:

Okay.... I just deleted 90% of the .nuv and .mpg files on my myth machine. How can I make the database match the filesystem easily?

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ShockValue:

lol.. firewire cable at newegg is $1.99. it's $35.00 at best buy

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FryZonE:

Its a homne brew tuner.. for some reason, Suse says its installed, but I cannot find out where, and none of the commands for lirc work either

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scopeuk:

ShockValue theres nothing in the alsa documentation about that card

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scopeuk:

althgou hthat means squat rearly

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FryZonE:

it wokred on my VDR setup

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ShockValue:

scopeuk: ive asked in #alsa as well.. no reply yet

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scopeuk:

theres enoug hdocuemtnations to write a driver afaik

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scopeuk:

but im not usre of the state of usb audio in linux in general

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ShockValue:

ive been cruising /usr/src/linux/.config the only thing i see is "enable USB audio" with a couple options.. not many

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ShockValue:

nothing specifiacally about cm101

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scopeuk:

http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x319.html

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