| Tuesday, September 19th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:01] | Paladine: | if that counts |
| [00:00:09] | hjohnson: | Paladine: eh, you weren't getting mortared. :P |
| [00:00:15] | kormoc: | nor sniped at |
| [00:00:20] | hjohnson: | true |
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| [00:00:33] | hjohnson: | though sniper fire wasn't much of an issue on base.. they've blown up most of the high points where one can snipe from. |
| [00:00:37] | Paladine: | yeah but french food is much worse than being mortared |
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| [00:00:54] | kormoc: | well, you could always join the army and give it a try and see |
| [00:00:59] | hjohnson: | Paladine: I dunno, I quite enjoy much french food.. though it doesn't do much for my waistline. |
| [00:01:22] | hjohnson: | kormoc: I spent 3 months with the army. That's enough for this year. :P |
| [00:01:35] | Paladine: | kormoc, I have done my time thanks |
| [00:02:10] | hjohnson: | hehe.. I've got my dual core 64 up and running with a 1MB S3 Trio video card. |
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| [00:03:22] | kr4z: | does anybody know why MythTV would be crashing whenever I go to "Watch TV"? I hear audio for around a second, then it goes away and the screen is blank and I have to restart |
| [00:04:00] | Anduin: | kr4z: Look at the backend logs. |
| [00:04:33] | kr4z: | I don't see anything in them that looks like an error |
| [00:04:43] | kr4z: | aside from being unable to create "/.qt" |
| [00:05:19] | Anduin: | kr4z: try running the backend with -v all,nodatabase |
| [00:05:23] | hjohnson: | anyhow.. |
| [00:05:29] | hjohnson: | time for me to go find a travel agent. |
| [00:05:54] | kr4z: | also mythfrontend says "Timed out waiting for free video buffers" a bunch of times at the end |
| [00:06:06] | ** kr4z tries that command ** | |
| [00:06:13] | Flimzy: | Hrmph. What does "Overlayed connection on channel 0" mean from test-mpeg2? |
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| [00:09:22] | FairWtns: | What's going on people. |
| [00:11:11] | kr4z: | Anduin: still nothing in the logs after running mythbackend with -v all,nodatabase |
| [00:11:35] | Anduin: | kr4z: can you pastebin the nothing? |
| [00:11:39] | kr4z: | heh |
| [00:11:42] | kr4z: | one sec |
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| [00:14:35] | kr4z: | http://pastebin.ca/175655 |
| [00:15:58] | kr4z: | Auduin: hm, does that verbose option only make what it prints out verbose and not the log file? |
| [00:16:51] | Anduin: | kr4z: The log file and output are the same, -l just pushes stdout to the log file. |
| [00:17:08] | Anduin: | kr4z: Your pastbin doesn't show it trying to start live tv |
| [00:17:27] | kr4z: | oh |
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| [00:17:33] | kr4z: | what does that mean then? |
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| [00:17:46] | kr4z: | is the frontend not connecting to it? |
| [00:18:19] | Anduin: | kr4z: That certainly appears to be a possibility, machine names change recently? |
| [00:18:33] | kr4z: | I just formatted this machine a couple hours ago |
| [00:19:17] | Anduin: | kr4z: Yeah there should be a lot more in that log, try running the frontend with the same -v all,nodatabase |
| [00:19:26] | kr4z: | ok |
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| [00:20:49] | madcat`: | hey |
| [00:21:33] | Flimzy: | hrmph |
| [00:21:39] | Flimzy: | I've forgetten EVERYTHING I knew about firewire and my PVR |
| [00:21:40] | Flimzy: | hehe |
| [00:21:49] | Flimzy: | can't even get VLC to read my PVR now |
| [00:22:15] | madcat`: | doh |
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| [00:23:11] | jonK: | I have a question: the mythweb backed status provides a statistic of "load average" for the past 1, 5, and 15 mintues. What is this? |
| [00:24:36] | kormoc: | jonK, it's the load of the machine, same as is reported in top and friends |
| [00:24:41] | Flimzy: | jonK: same as the load average displayed by top or w |
| [00:25:40] | Flimzy: | Grr. why can't I get this darn thing to even access the PVR? |
| [00:27:21] | madcat`: | can mythtv stream video over ethernet? |
| [00:27:37] | kormoc: | madcat`, nope, it only works over string and tin cans |
| [00:28:13] | PopKilla: | anybody run into some AMD athlon 64 / FX deals lately? need a new cpu |
| [00:28:33] | kormoc: | could check newegg, they tend to have some good deals |
| [00:28:50] | jonK: | I figured it was related to load average in top. |
| [00:29:01] | PopKilla: | ya i'm just swinged by to there, i don't think anything can compare to newegg. |
| [00:29:01] | jonK: | but i have wondered how to interpret that staistic as well |
| [00:29:16] | kormoc: | jonK, it's how many threads are attempting to actively use the cpu at a time |
| [00:29:17] | madcat`: | kormoc: well, that's still different then just running on localhost :) |
| [00:29:29] | jonK: | My machine reports .36 load average for the last minute |
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| [00:29:35] | jonK: | what does this mean |
| [00:29:36] | ** madcat` starts looking for tin can routers, and wonders if aluminum cans will wokr too ** | |
| [00:29:50] | kormoc: | madcat`, but yeah, a remote frontend can stream stuff from a backend |
| [00:30:10] | Flimzy: | grr. vlc just keeps telling me "cannot prefill buffer"... whatever the heck that means |
| [00:30:13] | kormoc: | jonK, that means about 3/10ths of the last x time, the cpu was used |
| [00:30:21] | jonK: | does it mean .36 of all active threads |
| [00:30:26] | jonK: | are being used by mythbackend? |
| [00:30:26] | kormoc: | nah |
| [00:30:35] | kormoc: | it's the admount of cpu time is used by the system |
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| [00:31:32] | jonK: | and the rest of the time? the .64? what's going on |
| [00:31:40] | kormoc: | nothing |
| [00:31:48] | kormoc: | cpu is free |
| [00:31:48] | jonK: | cpu off looking at the porn"? |
| [00:31:55] | kormoc: | cpu is running no-ops |
| [00:34:08] | jonK: | I assume the load average includes multiple cores |
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| [00:35:43] | kr4z: | Anduin: ok, ran the frontend with -v all,nodatabase. The backend log file was the same as before, stdout of the frontend was http://pastebin.ca/175667 and stderr was http://pastebin.ca/175668 |
| [00:36:05] | GreyFoxx: | the load average is the "average" number of processes in the queue waiting for cpu time to do some operation, had nothing to do with the number of cpu's as much as the number of really active processes] |
| [00:36:21] | kr4z: | Anduin: also this time the audio lasted like 10 seconds instead of 1 second before crashing |
| [00:38:57] | Flimzy: | Anyone using IVTV 0.7? |
| [00:42:12] | jonK: | yes |
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| [00:43:23] | Flimzy: | How can I determine what I2C controller my mainboard uses? |
| [00:46:31] | madcat`: | google for mobo docs? |
| [00:46:59] | Aid`: | anyone in here have A+ certification? |
| [00:47:22] | Anduin: | kr4z: Well your backend logs don't match, you have a single one right? |
| [00:47:55] | kr4z: | a single log file? |
| [00:48:11] | Anduin: | kr4z: single backend |
| [00:48:14] | kr4z: | ah |
| [00:48:15] | kr4z: | yes |
| [00:48:48] | madcat`: | Aid`: I have a BS in CoE and half of an MSEE ... |
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| [00:48:57] | kr4z: | oh, wait |
| [00:48:59] | Anduin: | kr4z: picard = 127.0.0.1? |
| [00:49:00] | root_____: | damn gaim disconnects. |
| [00:49:11] | root_____: | Argh! Root! |
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| [00:49:15] | kr4z: | there's something else in the backend log file that I thought was from a seperate time I ran it |
| [00:49:28] | kr4z: | I'll put it in the pastebin, one second |
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| [00:49:55] | fwitness: | Well that was embarassing. |
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| [00:51:00] | FairWitness: | Alright. So, in hopes I don't defend anyone by repetition, can someone help me with my "can't access //dev/dvd" problem using myth's new internal player? |
| [00:51:09] | FairWitness: | s/defend/offend |
| [00:51:53] | Anduin: | FairWitness: Is that the right device? With the right permissions? |
| [00:52:27] | FairWitness: | despair themes # ls -alhg /dev/dvd |
| [00:52:27] | FairWitness: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 3 Sep 10 09:42 /dev/dvd -> hdc |
| [00:52:27] | FairWitness: | despair themes # ls -alhg /dev/hdc |
| [00:52:27] | FairWitness: | brw-rw---- 1 cdrom 22, 0 Sep 10 09:42 /dev/hdc |
| [00:52:27] | FairWitness: | despair themes # |
| [00:52:41] | FairWitness: | All that looks good to me. |
| [00:53:13] | kr4z: | Anduin: http://pastebin.ca/175679 |
| [00:53:16] | GreyFoxx: | And does the user myth is running as have readpermissions on that hdc device? |
| [00:53:30] | kr4z: | "Can't enable VBI recording" |
| [00:53:38] | GreyFoxx: | Does it looks like only ownerand group have permissions,so is the myth user under that ? |
| [00:53:40] | kr4z: | what does that mean? |
| [00:54:11] | FairWitness: | GreyFoxx : I'm hoping so, but I can't tell for certain. I know 'groups mythtv' yields "tty audio cdrom video cdrw users" which looks OK to my non-expert eyes. |
| [00:54:38] | Anduin: | kr4z: Well at least the HandleAnnounce lines are there so, which capture card do you have? |
| [00:54:49] | GreyFoxx: | FairWitness: And I assume hdc IS the dvdrom ? |
| [00:55:03] | kr4z: | Anduin: it's a WinTV PVR 150 MCE |
| [00:55:04] | FairWitness: | I am also having DVD-burning problems (which are access-related) so I suspect this is the cause, but I can't determine how to fix it. |
| [00:55:11] | Flimzy: | Are there any kick-ass HD myth themes I should look at? :) |
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| [00:55:28] | FairWitness: | GreyFoxx: That is correct. I can burn DVD's as root using /dev/hdc. |
| [00:56:03] | FairWitness: | Maybe I should just try /dev/hdc directly... |
| [00:56:04] | GreyFoxx: | FairWitness: Got a valid DVD in there now ? |
| [00:56:28] | Zider: | Flimzy: project gotham I believe it's called |
| [00:56:36] | FairWitness: | But why do the logs show "//dev/dvd/" and not "/dev/dvd" in setup, there is only "/dev/dvd/" |
| [00:56:47] | FairWitness: | GreyFoxx :Yep. Star Wars Ep 1 |
| [00:57:05] | Zider: | Flimzy: grayhem |
| [00:57:06] | GreyFoxx: | FairWitness: Ok, ssh in asthe user you are running mythtv as |
| [00:57:08] | Zider: | Flimzy: close :D |
| [00:57:15] | GreyFoxx: | and execute this : dd if=/dev/hdc of=moo count=100 bs=1024 |
| [00:57:20] | FairWitness: | Although, "The New Devil in Miss Jones" is also handy. |
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| [00:57:24] | GreyFoxx: | See ifit gives and error or not |
| [00:57:32] | Flimzy: | cool |
| [00:57:34] | Flimzy: | I'll look at that one |
| [00:57:36] | Flimzy: | thanks Zider |
| [00:57:53] | Flimzy: | woot |
| [00:58:02] | Flimzy: | once I have the right kernel module loaded, the ivtv driver works better |
| [00:58:13] | Zider: | Flimzy: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/ |
| [00:58:36] | FairWitness: | Ok.... |
| [00:58:38] | FairWitness: | mythtv@despair ~ $ dd if=/dev/hdc of=moo count=100 bs=1024 |
| [00:58:38] | FairWitness: | 100+0 records in |
| [00:58:38] | FairWitness: | 100+0 records out |
| [00:58:38] | FairWitness: | 102400 bytes (102 kB) copied, 3.66129 seconds, 28.0 kB/s |
| [00:58:42] | Flimzy: | spiffy |
| [00:59:03] | GreyFoxx: | FairWitness: Ok, so the user can access the device then |
| [00:59:12] | FairWitness: | GreyFoxx : Btw, I appreciate the assistance. |
| [00:59:28] | GreyFoxx: | paste the exact error to pastebin.ca :) |
| [00:59:54] | FairWitness: | GreyFoxx : I tried also with /dev/dvd to be certain, identical results. |
| [01:00:32] | Flimzy: | I wonder if anyone has ever tried dual-head MythTV... using one head for the video, and the 2nd for the OSD |
| [01:00:34] | Anduin: | kr4z: You should still have more in your backend log, don't really know what to suggest. |
| [01:01:09] | GreyFoxx: | Flimy: What do you mean? So the OSD doesn'toverlay on top of the video??? Or are you talking about the menus when you say OSD ? |
| [01:01:47] | FairWitness: | GreyFoxx : http://pastebin.ca/175683 |
| [01:02:02] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: Well, either would work I suppose. |
| [01:02:13] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: I was thinking OSD... but menus might make just as much/more sense |
| [01:02:22] | GreyFoxx: | If you mean the later, then yeah I've done something like that |
| [01:02:26] | kr4z: | Anduin: hm... alright then, thanks anyway |
| [01:02:43] | GreyFoxx: | back when I use to use a dxr3 for video playback I had it going to a TV but the regular X/menus were on aPC monitor |
| [01:02:58] | GreyFoxx: | My old P166 frontend hehe |
| [01:03:13] | FairWitness: | hehe. Hooray for aging hardware in use. |
| [01:03:17] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: hehe... cool |
| [01:03:25] | jams: | what would be ideal is is menu on both screens, video on only one. |
| [01:04:02] | sigger: | any ability to use an AMD K6 as a front end or is that just waaay too old. |
| [01:04:02] | GreyFoxx: | FairWitness: It was nice as the dxr3 has great TV out and only cost like $5 on ebayheh |
| [01:04:13] | GreyFoxx: | sigger: how fast? |
| [01:04:31] | FairWitness: | Hrm. What is this dxr3 of which you speak... |
| [01:04:33] | ** FairWitness googles... ** | |
| [01:04:43] | sigger: | hmm, I think like 266. sorry, don't recall |
| [01:04:47] | GreyFoxx: | FairWitness: a pci mpeg decoder with TVout |
| [01:04:48] | Flimzy: | sigger: It can be done, if you have the right setup. |
| [01:05:13] | GreyFoxx: | Had two names "Creative DXr3 DVD decoder" or "RealMagic Hollywood+" |
| [01:05:15] | nandy_: | anyone heard about nforce mobos having problems with PVR150 on LIRC? |
| [01:05:17] | sigger: | (pretty elemental thing to have on hand before asking a question like that. sigger--) |
| [01:05:22] | Flimzy: | sigger: If you had a PVR-350, for instance, it would probably be quite doable. |
| [01:05:24] | FairWitness: | Aaah the "Hollywood" mpeg decoder. I was actually looking at using that on an epia frontend I had in mind. |
| [01:05:26] | GreyFoxx: | back when PC's couldn't decode dvd's on there own |
| [01:05:33] | nandy_: | from searching these threads that the only thing i can think of |
| [01:05:52] | FairWitness: | GreyFoxx : Mine isn't doing such a great job decoding atm. :) |
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| [01:06:05] | sigger: | oh, and its an old craptop. need to get a NIC and a USB bard |
| [01:06:29] | GreyFoxx: | FairWitness: If yhe user can access the drive and it looks like you've pointed myth to the right place,I really don't know why you are getting the error |
| [01:06:36] | FairWitness: | I'm planning on using this laptop as a frontend also (dell inspiron, 700mhz) I'm hoping it's adequate. |
| [01:06:40] | GreyFoxx: | sigger: a P266 hasn't got enough umph |
| [01:06:55] | GreyFoxx: | 700mhz should be fine for standard def |
| [01:07:13] | FairWitness: | GreyFoxx : Any idea about why it's got an extra slash? I.e. when I tell myth my drive is /dev/dvd/ the logs read //dev/dvd?? |
| [01:07:24] | sigger: | GreyFoxx: I figured not, but you mentioned P166 frontend so I dared to dream |
| [01:07:26] | GreyFoxx: | I've got 4 733's for frontends , and my slave is a 650mhz which sometimes acts as a frontend as well |
| [01:07:38] | GreyFoxx: | sigger: I only got away with it cause of the hardware mpeg decoder |
| [01:07:45] | sigger: | ah |
| [01:07:56] | GreyFoxx: | FairWitness: Nope,no idea,but that wont be a problem |
| [01:08:01] | GreyFoxx: | You can have as many asyou like |
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| [01:08:32] | GreyFoxx: | //////////////dev//////dvd is thesame as /dev/dvd |
| [01:09:06] | kormoc: | you could even do /./dev/./dvd |
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| [01:09:37] | GreyFoxx: | /usr/../dev/../etc/../dev/./dvd |
| [01:09:42] | GreyFoxx: | hehe I love unix :) |
| [01:10:02] | Aid`: | oh boy |
| [01:12:12] | Zider: | does mythtv use any particular font in menus/videolist/settings? I can't get the fontsizes right.. |
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| [01:16:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | This would make a very, very nice backend: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem . . . 200028262635 |
| [01:16:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | ;-) |
| [01:17:06] | FairWtns: | Hewroo? |
| [01:17:09] | Honk^away: | would it? :P |
| [01:17:13] | FairWtns: | Ah. Ok. |
| [01:17:37] | scott_: | good, thought it was going to be a link to a 7mHZ computer |
| [01:18:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | scott_: hehe... You rember last-night, eh? ;-) |
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| [01:18:08] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, http://anniversary.tomshardware.com/grand_prize/ |
| [01:18:11] | FairWtns: | GreyFoxx : Can you tell me what you have the player command set to on your box(es)? |
| [01:18:19] | madcat`: | scott_: a slow system, like 100 mhz or so, could be an awesome backend |
| [01:18:26] | GreyFoxx: | FairWitness: "Internal" |
| [01:18:27] | madcat`: | assuming of course it's an FPGA :) |
| [01:18:36] | FairWtns: | GreyFoxx : No %d? |
| [01:18:45] | GreyFoxx: | not required |
| [01:18:45] | madcat`: | wait, all of a sudden I realize that this isn't #electronics |
| [01:19:33] | kormoc: | madcat`, sadly, a FPGA running X wouldn't do so hot imho |
| [01:19:53] | FairWtns: | How about your "Location of DVD device:"? |
| [01:20:17] | fiveiron: | does mythtv have to be "turned off" to clean up the live recordings it makes? |
| [01:20:21] | madcat`: | kormoc: did I get backend and frontend backwards? and why not? |
| [01:20:22] | kormoc: | fiveiron, no |
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| [01:20:55] | madcat`: | kormoc: assuming a large enough FPGA, which is more then doable these days, you could have a decent 2d card + massive mpeg2/4/etc acceleration |
| [01:20:56] | kormoc: | madcat`, X is a bit of a memory hog and a cpu hog, esp with how video is done |
| [01:21:54] | kormoc: | madcat`, well, typically my 2.4 ghz frontend is giving around 50% of the cpu to X just to handle the window with hardware decoding help (XvMC) |
| [01:22:02] | kormoc: | *2.13 ghz sorry |
| [01:22:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Thanks... I'm not sure that system's worth $10K, but maybe the monitor is 3/4 the cost... ;-) |
| [01:22:17] | madcat`: | kormoc: I ment the backend though. or is that using X too? |
| [01:22:27] | kormoc: | Backend uses X too |
| [01:22:34] | kormoc: | but only to compile |
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| [01:22:52] | kormoc: | mysql's the hog on the backend, but that's not *too* bad |
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| [01:23:35] | FairWtns: | ? |
| [01:24:01] | madcat`: | hrm, well, I guess the trick is to figure out why the hell X is such a cpu and memory hog, and do an efficent hw implementation |
| [01:24:16] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [01:24:27] | kormoc: | That would be some fine engineering |
| [01:24:34] | madcat`: | or how about this |
| [01:24:43] | kormoc: | I would love a X accelerator pci card |
| [01:24:56] | madcat`: | an FPGA-powered robot with a bat that will "motavate" people to write better X code |
| [01:24:59] | madcat`: | :P |
| [01:25:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: It's called a faster CPU!!! ;-) |
| [01:25:49] | scott_: | man I only got 5 channels for mythtv this isn't enough |
| [01:26:16] | FairWtns: | It works!!! |
| [01:26:18] | kormoc: | madcat`, X is around 53.5 megs for a tar.gz compressed tree |
| [01:26:19] | FairWtns: | I did: |
| [01:26:50] | FairWtns: | chmod 0667 /dev/hdc |
| [01:27:03] | kormoc: | six six *seven* ? |
| [01:27:25] | kormoc: | you made the device executable? :P |
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| [01:27:48] | FairWtns: | kormoc : Go figure. Is there a downside to that? |
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| [01:28:18] | Zider: | does anyone else have the problem that the menu item "Manage Recordings" are too long and is taking up two lines? |
| [01:28:18] | kormoc: | FairWtns, not really, just... strange and unusual |
| [01:28:44] | FairWtns: | Yep. Episode One is playing in all it's, erm, glory. |
| [01:29:06] | fiveiron: | *sigh* |
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| [01:29:27] | fiveiron: | i can get live sound just fine from my tv tuner, but I can't get the sound that mythtv is encoding |
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| [01:29:52] | FairWtns: | Now to try a mytharchived dvd... |
| [01:29:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Do you have the PCM device enabled for playback? |
| [01:30:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Or, more basic, do you have sound from xwindows? |
| [01:30:29] | fiveiron: | yep |
| [01:30:43] | fiveiron: | lemme give you my scenario |
| [01:30:53] | fiveiron: | i have to separate sound cards in this system |
| [01:30:58] | fiveiron: | to = two, bleh |
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| [01:31:55] | fiveiron: | one for the pc, one for the mythtv. i've got my analog tv tuner piped into the aux in on my sound card. only way i hear any sound is by unmuting the "line" mixer. even though i've got aux and captur set to record |
| [01:32:15] | Leebier: | two simpleish questions, i did a mysqldump of my database. I would like to restore only the table(s) on recording schedules. how do i do this? |
| [01:32:35] | kormoc: | fiveiron, and you have the line set to be the capture channel? |
| [01:33:20] | fiveiron: | where would i set that? |
| [01:33:26] | FairWtns: | soooo sweet. |
| [01:33:36] | kormoc: | in alsamixer, and I think it's f3 to get to the capture channels |
| [01:34:07] | fiveiron: | f3 = no go |
| [01:34:19] | kormoc: | try f4 |
| [01:34:31] | fiveiron: | ah |
| [01:35:02] | kormoc: | you should see one of the non-mixers (things without volume bars) has a red CAPTURE at the bottom |
| [01:35:10] | kormoc: | set that to the Line-in |
| [01:35:25] | kormoc: | I think Space is the key that moves it |
| [01:36:07] | fiveiron: | kormoc, how do you switch between sound cards in alsamixer? |
| [01:36:16] | kormoc: | alsamixer -c # |
| [01:36:36] | kormoc: | -c 0 is the first one, -c 1 is the second, and so on |
| [01:37:15] | fiveiron: | ok, line is set to capture... |
| [01:37:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | Now try myth... |
| [01:37:29] | fiveiron: | one question though, my "aux in" is where i have the audio from my tuner coming in |
| [01:37:41] | fiveiron: | so shouldn't it be set to captur? |
| [01:37:43] | kormoc: | Well, set it to the aux-in for capture then |
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| [01:37:48] | fiveiron: | lol |
| [01:37:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Doesn't he have to specify the capture device in the card setup too? |
| [01:37:58] | kormoc: | Yes, he does |
| [01:37:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | (audio capture device) |
| [01:38:01] | fiveiron: | ? |
| [01:38:15] | kormoc: | when you setup the card in mythtv-setup, you have to set it to use the second sound card |
| [01:38:24] | fiveiron: | i have |
| [01:38:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | k' should work then... ;-) |
| [01:38:37] | fiveiron: | this is how i had it all set up already |
| [01:38:37] | human39_laptop: | any doc's/pod for the perl bindings yet? |
| [01:38:51] | Flimzy: | wow |
| [01:38:55] | Flimzy: | I'm watching TV over firewire |
| [01:39:01] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, but the only way i hear any sound is by unmuting the "line" mixer, and that gives me LIVE sound, not the encoded sound |
| [01:39:14] | Flimzy: | hrm, no I'm not |
| [01:39:16] | Flimzy: | how strange |
| [01:39:20] | kormoc: | fiveiron, that's why it seems like line-in should be the capture, if line-in is what plays the sound back |
| [01:39:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Do you have Myth setup to use card 0 for output? |
| [01:40:10] | Flimzy: | maybbe I am, maybe I'm not. in any case, channel changing doesn't work |
| [01:40:10] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, nope... /dev/dsp3 ( i actually have 3 sound cards, one on-board, and 2 PCI cards. I'm using the last PCI card for myth) |
| [01:40:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Ok, which one do you use for xwindows audio? 3? |
| [01:41:11] | fiveiron: | 2 |
| [01:41:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: (And should't that be '2' — wouldn't the devices be dsp0, dsp1 and dsp2?) |
| [01:41:37] | fiveiron: | (on-board no longer works.... so /dev/dsp2 is for xwindows, /dev/dsp3 is for myth) |
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| [01:42:16] | kormoc: | erm |
| [01:42:24] | kormoc: | so what's /dev/dsp and what's /dev/dsp1 |
| [01:42:25] | fiveiron: | ls -la /dev/dsp* returns /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp2, and /dev/dsp3 |
| [01:42:52] | fiveiron: | /dev/dsp is my onboard audio that is fried for some reason |
| [01:43:26] | kormoc: | okay, so myth is recording from the aux-in of /dev/dsp2 and mythfrontend is set to playback to /dev/dsp3 ? |
| [01:43:35] | fiveiron: | no.. |
| [01:43:45] | kormoc: | no? |
| [01:43:47] | fiveiron: | myth is recording from the aux-in of /dev/dsp3 |
| [01:43:53] | fiveiron: | and is set to playback on /dev/dsp3 |
| [01:44:02] | fiveiron: | one sound card, solely for myth |
| [01:44:07] | kormoc: | strange |
| [01:44:09] | fiveiron: | ? |
| [01:44:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Ok, is the PCM output enabled for /dev/dsp, and turned up? |
| [01:44:11] | kormoc: | but fair nuff |
| [01:44:23] | fiveiron: | one sec |
| [01:44:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | (make that /dev/dsp3) |
| [01:44:29] | kormoc: | fiveiron, mostly cause linux + soundcards are a pain, I hate dealing with one, yet alone two :P |
| [01:44:53] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, nothing is connected to /dev/dsp |
| [01:45:06] | kormoc: | fiveiron, what about on /dev/dsp3 then? |
| [01:45:09] | Flimzy: | Aside from test-mpeg2, are there any other utilities that can simply grab an MPEG stream from a firewire device and dump it to a file? |
| [01:45:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: sorry (make that /dev/dsp3) |
| [01:45:23] | kormoc: | fiveiron, you have master unmuted and up, as well as pcm unmuted and up? |
| [01:45:33] | fiveiron: | yep |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | and you can use something like mplayer/xine/xmms to playback on /dev/dsp3 ? |
| [01:46:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: And that's what your speakers are plugged into? Mythfrontend didn't give an error that the audio device was already in use when you started it, did it? |
| [01:46:47] | kormoc: | and you're not using mythfrontend with alsa drivers, are you? |
| [01:47:04] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, didn't check... let me look |
| [01:47:07] | fiveiron: | kormoc, eh? |
| [01:47:12] | kormoc: | in other words, you have it set to /dev/dsp3 and not say, ALSA: blahblah ? |
| [01:47:39] | fiveiron: | oh, yes. |
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| [01:48:29] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, yes, my speakers are plugged into that. no errors on mythfrontend |
| [01:48:44] | kormoc: | and other apps play though /dev/dsp3? |
| [01:48:50] | fiveiron: | well wait |
| [01:49:06] | fiveiron: | I'm getting this on the frontend when i switch to live tv |
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| [01:49:21] | fiveiron: | "NVR: Error, unknown audio codec" |
| [01:49:28] | fiveiron: | along with a video codec error |
| [01:49:46] | fiveiron: | tells me i need to go into settings and set up the four "software encoders" profiles |
| [01:50:00] | kormoc: | you didn't? |
| [01:50:11] | fiveiron: | going now |
| [01:51:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: I think you should invest in a PVR-500 — that would give you two tuners in one slot, and let you get rid of the 2nd sound card... (just my opinion!) ;-) |
| [01:51:51] | fiveiron: | i agree |
| [01:52:02] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, nah, he plays out the second sound card, so he'd still need that to keep the same setup |
| [01:52:04] | fiveiron: | right now i'm trying to do this for free... |
| [01:52:22] | kormoc: | meh, it's costing you time, which isn't free :P |
| [01:53:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: How fast is your CPU? |
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| [01:54:30] | fiveiron: | 2ghz athlon xp |
| [01:55:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Ok, it's fast enough for doing a decent job with software encoding. (As long as the tuner card provides a good enough capture!) |
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| [01:57:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | [ot] Anyone here got any Rambus (RDimm) memory they'd like to sell btw? |
| [01:57:29] | fiveiron: | bleh... this should not be this hard... i'm missing something easy |
| [01:57:58] | Zider: | does anyone actually use rambus? I thought they died out pretty quickly |
| [01:58:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Well, you're on the right track... I don't use software encoding, or I'd tell you my settings... |
| [01:58:21] | kormoc: | Zider, rambus is still out there going strong |
| [01:58:30] | Zider: | kormoc: for what? |
| [01:58:30] | fiveiron: | wouldn't i be able to use hardware encoding? or is that a tv-tuner card thing? |
| [01:58:55] | Flimzy: | Why is the feature I want *always* in a package version that's not yet released? |
| [01:58:58] | kormoc: | Zider, there's a few chips (sis iirc) that support quad channel RDRAM |
| [01:59:19] | kormoc: | Zider, which is slightly faster then the fastest ddr2 |
| [01:59:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | Zider: Yeah, well I got this Dual-PIII 866 system from work (they were throwing out two dual-capable, single cpu systems, and I combined them into one dual machine.) Anyways, it's got Rambus, and I've only got 4x128 in there now for 512... would like to have 768 or 1gb... But it's very pricey... |
| [01:59:29] | Flimzy: | Rambus going strong? when did that start? :P |
| [02:00:08] | Zider: | I thought they were just expensive and odd.. :) |
| [02:00:28] | kormoc: | I used rambus back in the day, it was nice and speedy, but costly out the wazoo |
| [02:01:15] | kormoc: | I remember waiting and waiting to go to 1 gig of rdram, but the price never went down to the sweet point |
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| [02:01:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Humm — I didn't know about quad channel rdram... But since RDRAM is only 16bit, a single 800mhz rdram is effectively 200mhz for each 64-bit transfer. So dual-channel DDR2 should blow quad-channel rdram out of the water... |
| [02:01:34] | ** Flimzy prays that he can compile the latest vlc without upgrading to unstable ** | |
| [02:01:48] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, quad channel rd went upto 32 bits at 1066 mhz |
| [02:01:51] | fiveiron: | should my "capture" be set to capture? |
| [02:02:12] | kormoc: | fiveiron, worth a try |
| [02:02:30] | sphing: | kormoc are you in seattle? |
| [02:02:37] | kormoc: | sphing, yes, yes I am |
| [02:02:58] | sphing: | you have a firewire setup correct? |
| [02:03:10] | kormoc: | no, I do not. SlicerDicer- and xris both do tho |
| [02:03:18] | kormoc: | xris is in seattle, SlicerDicer- is close by |
| [02:03:25] | sphing: | ahh ok... |
| [02:03:42] | Sebulba02: | Flimzy: good luck ;) |
| [02:04:00] | FairWtns: | Gentlemen, I cannot believe the success I've had tonight. I can now get rid of two devices under my TV. Thanks for all the help, especially GreyFoxx & kormoc. |
| [02:04:07] | ** SlicerDicer- sends kormoc a deflector sheild ** | |
| [02:04:07] | sphing: | my dct6200 was working friday afternoon and it stopped last night when i tried it again.. i was wondering is something I have to do |
| [02:04:28] | kormoc: | you're welcome FairWtns |
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| [02:04:39] | fiveiron: | hmm |
| [02:04:42] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, I have a deflector shield... it's called ops :P |
| [02:04:44] | fiveiron: | ok.... i've got one thing figured out |
| [02:04:53] | fiveiron: | what I thought was "aux" was actually "line" |
| [02:04:57] | SlicerDicer-: | lol kormoc |
| [02:05:05] | FairWtns: | Now, to enjoy my newfound functionalities. Night all. |
| [02:05:12] | ** SlicerDicer- hands kormoc a 16lbs sledge hammer for future use ** | |
| [02:05:17] | SlicerDicer-: | it may come in handy some day |
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| [02:05:21] | kormoc: | fiveiron, booya! so back to setting line as the capture device and giving it another shot :P |
| [02:05:25] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, hehe, thanks |
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| [02:05:29] | sphing: | SlicerDicer-: anything special to get the dct6200 to output the firewire...? |
| [02:05:43] | fiveiron: | ok, so "line" should be capturing, and muted, correct? |
| [02:05:57] | fiveiron: | cause unmuting it gives me live sound |
| [02:06:03] | kormoc: | Aye |
| [02:06:11] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: well if it works sphing then woohoo ;-) if it does not work let me know and I will send you a shellscript I wrote that will make it work |
| [02:06:15] | fiveiron: | and my PCM is unmuted and set to max |
| [02:06:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: yep... muted from 'playback', but not from 'capture'... |
| [02:06:21] | Flimzy: | Grr. 4 unmet version dependancies |
| [02:06:43] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, uh... i can't mute/unmute from capture in alsamixer... |
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| [02:06:45] | sphing: | SlicerDicer: it worked on friday afternoon, then I stopped using it and tried again yesterday and no video is coming out |
| [02:06:54] | sphing: | the channel will change |
| [02:06:59] | sphing: | but no video |
| [02:07:07] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: try watching livetv over and over |
| [02:07:11] | SlicerDicer-: | if it works randomly let me know |
| [02:07:12] | sphing: | lol |
| [02:07:19] | SlicerDicer-: | give it about 8–10 tries |
| [02:07:24] | SlicerDicer-: | I am serious |
| [02:07:33] | sphing: | haha alright |
| [02:07:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | SlicerDicer-: I was going to say "I think he thinks you're kidding"... ;-) |
| [02:08:02] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [02:08:19] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: this is why I wrote the script I did |
| [02:08:44] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: if you have random video working then the script will work if not more than likely you have a whole differnet problem :) |
| [02:09:11] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, how am I supposed "unmute" from capture.... it doesn't give me that option |
| [02:09:45] | kormoc: | fiveiron, in the capture mixer controls, almost always there is a volume bar in there to set the capture volume |
| [02:09:52] | kormoc: | fiveiron, that needs to be unmuted and more then 0 |
| [02:10:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: I guess if it's 'selected' for capture, then it's un-muted. --- and yeah, check the level too... |
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| [02:10:15] | fiveiron: | oh... well yeah, capture is set to 100.... still not getting anything... !#$@%! |
| [02:10:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Are you still getting that strange error when you go to live tv? |
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| [02:12:09] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, nope... in fact I get "Opening OSS audio device /dev/dsp3" |
| [02:12:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | On another subject — is there a shell script to tune an HD3000 that I could use as a 'channel change' script, to modify to also control an antenna rotor? ;-) |
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| [02:12:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Well, that looks better than before. Humm.... |
| [02:12:43] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: any luck? |
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| [02:13:26] | kormoc: | welp, I'm heading home, g'luck everyone! |
| [02:13:47] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, what are the /dev/adsp devices? |
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| [02:13:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: What format are you capturing to? You're getting video, right, but no audio? |
| [02:14:18] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, yes, video is fine, but no encoded audio. I'm capturing to mpeg4 video and mp3 audio |
| [02:14:19] | kormoc: | fiveiron, analog vs digital iirc |
| [02:14:56] | krisp_: | hi, i just got everything set up and working except that the picture output on my pvr150 looks like it would if i was tuning to a scrambled channel years ago |
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| [02:15:33] | krisp_: | can change channels and such and see what is on there sort of but its like it on every channel |
| [02:16:05] | sphing: | SlicerDicer: sorry about that... my wifi kicked out.. trying now |
| [02:16:29] | fiveiron: | krisp_, try changing the frequency table you're using |
| [02:16:36] | fiveiron: | in mythtv-setup |
| [02:16:39] | sphing: | 2006-09–18 22:16:51.263 NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /mnt/store/mythtv/1003_20060919021615.mpg |
| [02:16:40] | sphing: | 2006-09–18 22:16:51.267 TV Error: StartPlayer(): NVP is not playing after 20000 msec |
| [02:16:44] | sphing: | is what frontend tells me |
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| [02:16:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Try quitting live tv, then playing back one of the files with mplayer or something. |
| [02:16:51] | krisp_: | sounds like a plan |
| [02:16:58] | findme: | where can I get frequencies.pm and TK.pm? |
| [02:17:02] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, aight.. one sec |
| [02:17:21] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: sounds like a decoder issue? I dunno I havent ever seen that error |
| [02:17:24] | krisp_: | oh good dvb scan found some channels, couldnt get any in mythtv-setup for the other tuner |
| [02:17:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: (The livetv recordings should hang around for a day or so before they get deleted) |
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| [02:17:52] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, can mplayer play .nuv files? |
| [02:18:07] | sphing: | SlicerDicer: then it says TFW : Taking a long time to flush... |
| [02:18:10] | sphing: | on the backend over and over again |
| [02:18:11] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Umm... I think so --- |
| [02:18:14] | fiveiron: | well i guess if its mpeg4.... hmm |
| [02:18:16] | fiveiron: | one sec |
| [02:18:17] | sphing: | and says all inputs are recording |
| [02:18:19] | Flimzy: | Grrr |
| [02:18:50] | sphing: | and ctrl + c just locks... |
| [02:19:06] | mishehu: | ugh. has anybody come across this compile problem on 0.20 plugins mythmusic: playlist.cpp:918: error: expected initializer before '<' token |
| [02:20:48] | Anduin: | mishehu: does adding #include <map> help? |
| [02:21:51] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: I have no idea on that error man... if it was not locating the .mpg thats a different story |
| [02:22:09] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, heh.. i'm not seeing any video or hearing anything, but mplayer acts like it is playing something |
| [02:22:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Humm... Did mplayer open a green or blue screen? |
| [02:22:54] | fiveiron: | black |
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| [02:23:28] | Paladine: | J-e-f-f-A, amazing how well serial cables are made isn't it? |
| [02:23:42] | Paladine: | took me an hour to steal the connector from an existing cable hehe |
| [02:24:10] | sphing: | SlicerDicer-: thats a new error message... thats the first time i've seen it too |
| [02:24:13] | sphing: | normally it just fails.. |
| [02:24:16] | sphing: | also it jumps nodes |
| [02:24:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: You may have to give it "-vo xv" to get the video to overlay properly... give that a shot.... |
| [02:25:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Paladine: Yeah, they're usually sealed in soft plastic via a mold... |
| [02:25:06] | Paladine: | yeah |
| [02:25:08] | mishehu: | Anduin: I'll try, didn't look at hte includes yet. |
| [02:25:15] | Paladine: | I got it out though :) |
| [02:25:25] | Paladine: | and my parts were shipped today |
| [02:25:32] | Paladine: | so they should be here in the next couple of days |
| [02:25:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | Paladine: kewl! |
| [02:25:51] | Paladine: | then I will be caling on you for help configuring lirc for the blaster :) |
| [02:25:54] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, bleh... nada |
| [02:25:56] | mishehu: | yeah, fixed it. |
| [02:26:34] | fiveiron: | hey there we go |
| [02:26:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Humm... does the software encoding support mpeg2? Maybe try that for a test... (did something work?) |
| [02:26:52] | fiveiron: | got the video working |
| [02:27:13] | Anduin: | mishehu: distro? |
| [02:27:16] | fiveiron: | no sound tho |
| [02:27:39] | findme: | where can i ask questions about ivtv? |
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| [02:29:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: (looking to see how to tell mplayer the audio output device... one sec...) |
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| [02:30:44] | xris: | findme: #ivtv-dev? |
| [02:30:49] | xris: | and occasionally here |
| [02:31:03] | Paladine: | night guys |
| [02:31:10] | findme: | xris, thanks |
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| [02:31:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | Paladine: ttyl... ;-) |
| [02:32:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Try adding "-ao oss /dev/dsp3" to your mplayer line... |
| [02:32:46] | sphing: | SlicerDicer: I have to go... but I'lll ping you later if thats alright |
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| [02:36:26] | SlicerDicer-: | sure |
| [02:36:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Did I lose ya? |
| [02:36:48] | fiveiron: | no |
| [02:36:52] | fiveiron: | just trying that out |
| [02:36:58] | fiveiron: | with various other settings |
| [02:37:08] | fiveiron: | no audio even from my main sound card |
| [02:37:10] | fiveiron: | :-( |
| [02:37:23] | fiveiron: | but i can fire up amarok and play something just fine |
| [02:37:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Do you have a known good file you can play with mplayer? |
| [02:37:38] | fiveiron: | tons |
| [02:38:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Ok, try using mplayer to play one, with "-ao oss /dev/dsp3" to make it play audio on that card... |
| [02:38:49] | fiveiron: | something is broken... cause even if i change it to /dev/dsp2 i can't hear anything on this other file |
| [02:39:25] | fiveiron: | there we go |
| [02:39:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: You mentioned 'amarok' — is that a video player? Could you try playing the myth recording with that perhaps? |
| [02:39:57] | fiveiron: | amarok is a music player |
| [02:40:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Ok... nevermind that! Do you have another player, perhaps vlc? |
| [02:40:20] | fiveiron: | yep |
| [02:40:30] | fiveiron: | vlc doesn't like the .nuv files |
| [02:40:43] | krisp_: | hmm |
| [02:40:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Try renaming it to .mpeg and see if it will play... (maybe not, but worth a shot) |
| [02:41:06] | krisp_: | if i use ivtvctl to set it to ntsc and the tuner1 input the picture is fine, but it is always scrambled in mythtv |
| [02:41:28] | krisp_: | ive tried all the frequency tables, audio is clear |
| [02:41:34] | krisp_: | and it's set to ntsc |
| [02:41:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: What's your source, cable? |
| [02:41:42] | krisp_: | ya |
| [02:42:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: And your tuner is stup for ntsc-cable in the capture card setup? |
| [02:42:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: s/stup/setup/ ;-) |
| [02:42:34] | krisp_: | yeah ill double check again tho |
| [02:42:39] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, heh... VLC isn't playing any audio either.... |
| [02:42:49] | fiveiron: | for some reason mythtv isn't getting any audio |
| [02:42:50] | krisp_: | not sure if there was an option for that under pvr-x50 |
| [02:42:59] | krisp_: | but in general it's def set to ntsc |
| [02:43:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Is that just on the myth recording, or on others as well? |
| [02:43:05] | fiveiron: | just the myth one |
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| [02:43:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Ok, then we've narrowed it down to myth not recording the audio. You know it's getting into the sound card, as when you un-mute the playback channel, it works... |
| [02:44:08] | fiveiron: | yeah... thats a good starting point for tomorrow |
| [02:44:15] | fiveiron: | thanks for all your help man |
| [02:44:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: I think the next step is to try recording audio from a sound recording program... |
| [02:44:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: no problemo... ;-) ttyl. |
| [02:44:38] | krisp_: | yeah under capture card settings for mpeg encoder card only option is tuner and video device |
| [02:44:46] | fiveiron: | hey one more thing... i've installed all the plugins... but they arent showing up in the frontend... is there something i need to configure somewhere? |
| [02:45:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Did you restart the frontend? |
| [02:45:10] | fiveiron: | yep |
| [02:45:17] | fiveiron: | should they automagically be there? |
| [02:45:38] | fiveiron: | i can just reinstall if so |
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| [02:45:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Humm... I dunno atm... I thought so... But don't know that side of myth deep enough yet... |
| [02:46:13] | krisp_: | problem is def somewhere in the myth config |
| [02:46:16] | metalac: | so i'm getting weird freezes, usually right at the end of the show and before the commercials while watching live tv |
| [02:46:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | fiveiron: Did you restart the backend too? |
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| [02:46:43] | metalac: | then I have to go back to myth menu and back into LiveTV and everything works fine |
| [02:47:10] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: Hey you around I have a few firewire questions to ask you |
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| [02:47:18] | fiveiron: | J-e-f-f-A, installed them before i even ran mythtv for the first time |
| [02:47:19] | krisp_: | raw capture from /dev/video1 is perfect picture but scrambled in myth very strange |
| [02:47:20] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: whats up? |
| [02:47:42] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: can you tell me how reliable is your firewire? good enough for 24/7 watching with few quirks? |
| [02:47:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: That really sounds like the channel frequencies are goofed up in myth... |
| [02:48:02] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: quirks? |
| [02:48:09] | krisp_: | well ive tried all the frequencies it came with |
| [02:48:25] | krisp_: | and the audio is fine so it cant be that far off |
| [02:48:32] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: the problem i have now is that node numbers change and then data from the box is sometimes there and sometimes not, so I have to restart the box and firewire |
| [02:48:35] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: I havent had any quirks since the script I wrote |
| [02:48:54] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: do you use a single box or multiple? |
| [02:49:02] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: is that the firewire-primer script? |
| [02:49:08] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: i just have one DCT-6200 |
| [02:49:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: When you tried a different frequency table, did you clear all the old channels too? If not, I think the old frequencies will still be there. |
| [02:49:37] | SlicerDicer-: | no metalac |
| [02:49:42] | SlicerDicer-: | I have not released it |
| [02:49:45] | SlicerDicer-: | ;-) |
| [02:49:52] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: you dog :) |
| [02:49:57] | SlicerDicer-: | only due to it being a horrible kludge |
| [02:50:02] | SlicerDicer-: | it works but its horrible |
| [02:50:03] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [02:50:06] | metalac: | hehehe |
| [02:50:07] | SlicerDicer-: | runs as root etc |
| [02:50:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: I think you may have to set it to 'us cable', then delete teh channels, then get the listings again. I think that will fix it... |
| [02:50:26] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: what firewire card do you have? i want to get one that's pretty good, mine is acting up |
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| [02:50:35] | SlicerDicer-: | I use a Audigy 2 Plat |
| [02:50:49] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: know what the chip is on it? |
| [02:51:05] | Anduin: | krisp_: Just changing the table is fine, no need to refetch channels if you are using a normal grabber |
| [02:51:32] | SlicerDicer-: | its not your firewire card I can just about bet |
| [02:51:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | Anduin: Are the frequencies stored in mysql though? |
| [02:51:36] | SlicerDicer-: | what do you use a TI card? |
| [02:51:51] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: yeah it's a TI card |
| [02:52:04] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: Texas Instruments TSB12LV26 IEEE-1394 Controller |
| [02:52:10] | Anduin: | J-e-f-f-A: Not normally, normally freqid is just a number we look up in the associated frequency table |
| [02:52:20] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: those things are rock solid |
| [02:52:39] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: so why does the node change every time i restart a box? |
| [02:52:43] | krisp_: | ive gone through all the different tables with no change |
| [02:52:45] | Anduin: | J-e-f-f-A: That isn't to say it can't store the actual frequency, just no usually. |
| [02:52:51] | krisp_: | well, all the us-cable tables |
| [02:52:52] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: it should not change node |
| [02:52:54] | krisp_: | hrc, irc and normal |
| [02:52:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | Anduin: Ok, I was thinking they got 'loaded' into the database on initial setup, and perhaps needed to be 'cleaned up'... |
| [02:53:11] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: I know it shouldn't I'm trying to see why it's doing it :) |
| [02:53:16] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [02:53:21] | SlicerDicer-: | well it can change node |
| [02:53:24] | SlicerDicer-: | but its not normal |
| [02:53:26] | Anduin: | J-e-f-f-A: Yeah, it is possible, just not something you normally see. |
| [02:53:38] | SlicerDicer-: | I am thinking of what I did to have it stop changing node |
| [02:53:49] | krisp_: | im using the xmltv directgrab or whatever it is |
| [02:53:56] | SlicerDicer-: | I think I switched the port around on the back metalac |
| [02:54:04] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: do you have the proggy test-mpeg2? |
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| [02:54:25] | xris: | krisp_: if you're in the US, you should be using datadirect, not xmltv |
| [02:54:33] | krisp_: | thats the one |
| [02:54:45] | xris: | well, xmltv has one, too.. but you should be using myth's internal grabber |
| [02:54:49] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: yes I do |
| [02:54:53] | SlicerDicer-: | ok well |
| [02:54:55] | krisp_: | yeah i am |
| [02:55:00] | krisp_: | couldnt remember what it was called tho |
| [02:55:03] | xris: | ah |
| [02:55:11] | Anduin: | krisp_: There are also recording profiles (though if it were them you would expect that once you see it look bad a cat test would look bad as well, then again same for frequency tables) |
| [02:55:15] | SlicerDicer-: | try plugging the firewire into the second port on the cablebox |
| [02:55:18] | Flimzy: | If I want to use a custom "backend" for MythTV... where Myth just reads from a file/fifo, and changes channels with an external command... what would be the easiest way to configure that? |
| [02:55:20] | SlicerDicer-: | and I will give you the script |
| [02:55:29] | SlicerDicer-: | for the node changing aspect |
| [02:55:31] | SlicerDicer-: | I really dont know |
| [02:55:48] | SlicerDicer-: | I think its either just flaky for a period of time or comcast was doing work in the area |
| [02:55:53] | SlicerDicer-: | I cant tell for sure |
| [02:55:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: So mplayer plays video fine from the 150, and you can change channels with the perl script fine? |
| [02:56:05] | SlicerDicer-: | but my nodes stopped switching about 2 months ago and have been solid since |
| [02:56:15] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: Ok let me see what's up i changed the ports in the back |
| [02:56:27] | SlicerDicer-: | when the nodes stopped switching I wrote my script and bam not one problem since then |
| [02:57:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: Do you mean by using an external box feeding svideo and audio in? Such as a Sattelite tuner, controlled with an IR blaster? |
| [02:57:13] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: hmm interesting |
| [02:57:20] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: what does the script do? |
| [02:57:21] | krisp_: | yea |
| [02:57:26] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: No... I'm looking for something *much* more abstract than that. |
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| [02:57:47] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: I want Myth to just look for a video stream in a location I specify... and do all of it's control thru a script I specify. |
| [02:58:02] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: oh maybe this has something to do with node changes, the node that is not connected it says libiec61883 error: error reading oMPR |
| [02:58:03] | metalac: | libiec61883 error: error reading iMPR |
| [02:58:12] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: When it needs to change channels, I want it to call channel.sh, for instance. And then look in foo.mpg for the video stream. |
| [02:58:16] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: the script just runs at boot |
| [02:58:24] | SlicerDicer-: | it forces the cablebox to send a signal all the time |
| [02:58:29] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: And I want it to just trust me that the contents of foo.mpg is the appropriate data for the channel it selects. |
| [02:58:34] | SlicerDicer-: | insted of turning on and off |
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| [02:58:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: You might be able to do it by setting up a different 'tuner card' in myth, with the stream device as the tuner, and your script as the channel change script. |
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| [02:58:53] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: Oh ok |
| [02:59:07] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: That's what I tried... But it doesn't like the fact that it can't communicate with the "device" that is just a dummy file. |
| [02:59:14] | gordonjl: | hi, folks. Can someone point me to a good howto for installing mythtv on ubuntu? |
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| [02:59:53] | tank-man: | gordonjl, mythtv site |
| [03:00:01] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: Myth expects to be able to probe the tuner device for various information that obviously won't exist if it's just a file or fifo |
| [03:00:09] | SlicerDicer-: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/FwX3jK33.html metalac check that |
| [03:00:10] | gordonjl: | excuse me, tank-man I mean specifically on dapper |
| [03:00:12] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: So the file/device doesn't exist at the time you start the 'recording' on your device? |
| [03:00:16] | tank-man: | are you wanting to install from source? or some pkg? |
| [03:00:24] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: just remember the first test will always fail |
| [03:00:27] | nandy__: | has anyone gotten lirc to work on an nforce mobo? |
| [03:00:36] | xris: | gordonjl: the general recommendation is to install from source from the fixes branch in svn.. get your build deps from apt. |
| [03:00:37] | SlicerDicer-: | I usually have mine stop failing around try 2–6 |
| [03:00:47] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: It exists. It just isn't a device file, so mythtv gets uber confused. |
| [03:01:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: Humm... Sounds like you may need to take this to the 'dev' group then... I dunno... ;-) |
| [03:01:07] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: make it a shellscript and run it as boot :) it should solve that |
| [03:01:14] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: My idea is to have a fifo that exists all the time, and then dump different junk to it, depending on what channel is selected thru the script. |
| [03:01:14] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: be sure to modify the values of the nodes |
| [03:01:19] | SlicerDicer-: | such as -n 1 to whatever node |
| [03:01:21] | Anduin: | Flimzy: You would need to add a new recorder type. |
| [03:01:24] | SlicerDicer-: | and -r 1 to whatever node |
| [03:01:32] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: otherwise it will fail fail fail ;-) |
| [03:01:33] | Flimzy: | Anduin: What does that entail? |
| [03:01:38] | joemama: | gordonjl: check this thread out – http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186747 |
| [03:01:45] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh and metalac |
| [03:01:46] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: np, just need to make sure that node doesn't change :) |
| [03:01:51] | gordonjl: | thanks much, all. |
| [03:01:54] | SlicerDicer-: | remove the line break |
| [03:02:05] | SlicerDicer-: | line 15 on rafb |
| [03:02:16] | SlicerDicer-: | forgot to remove that ;-) |
| [03:02:23] | Anduin: | Flimzy: I've never done it, not too much work, there are several to look at for examples though. |
| [03:02:27] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: got it np |
| [03:02:27] | SlicerDicer-: | its configured for daisychain and I have to modify it hehe |
| [03:02:38] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: thank you |
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| [03:02:49] | Ediehow: | hey xris you there? |
| [03:02:56] | Flimzy: | Anduin: Where should I begin to see what I'd need to do? |
| [03:02:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | SlicerDicer-: You have a garden? (daisychain) ;-) |
| [03:03:08] | Ediehow: | i used nuvexport and made an xvid |
| [03:03:09] | SlicerDicer-: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/pF5Rlw17.html thats the full script metalac ;-) |
| [03:03:11] | Ediehow: | but xp cannot see the video? |
| [03:03:19] | SlicerDicer-: | I run on node 1 and 2 |
| [03:03:20] | xris: | Ediehow: ? |
| [03:03:26] | krisp_: | us-cable is def the right frequency list |
| [03:03:33] | xris: | Ediehow: you may need to download the xvid drivers. |
| [03:03:35] | xris: | er, codec |
| [03:03:36] | Ediehow: | for xp? |
| [03:03:37] | Ediehow: | xris: ? |
| [03:03:38] | krisp_: | because if i switch it to hrc or irc and rescan channels i get black and whight and no audio |
| [03:03:46] | Ediehow: | xris: where do i get that, and is it free? |
| [03:03:54] | Anduin: | Flimzy: libmythtv/*recorder* |
| [03:04:13] | Ediehow: | http://www.xvid.org/downloads.html |
| [03:04:14] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: is that the full script for daisy chain? i should still use the first one, right? |
| [03:04:17] | xris: | Ediehow: no clue where (google), and yes it's free |
| [03:04:19] | Ediehow: | http://downloads.xvid.org/downloads/xvidcore-1.1.0.zip |
| [03:04:21] | Ediehow: | just install that? |
| [03:04:26] | xris: | should be, yes |
| [03:04:47] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: yep use the first one that I sent |
| [03:05:04] | SlicerDicer-: | but if you decide to daisy chain that script can be helpful :) |
| [03:05:09] | Flimzy: | blah, I don't know C++ well enough to do that. |
| [03:05:23] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: and dont forget in mythtv-setup set it to p2p connection |
| [03:05:27] | Flimzy: | Maybe I'll file a wishlist bug |
| [03:05:35] | Ediehow: | you have to compile that |
| [03:05:46] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: I'm trying to get test-mpeg2 to work now, i keep getting 0 size files |
| [03:06:20] | Anduin: | Flimzy: remember wish list items go on the wiki |
| [03:06:23] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: yeah it will do that crap |
| [03:06:29] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: thats why I wrote that script |
| [03:06:35] | Anduin: | Flimzy: That way no one has to look at them :) |
| [03:06:54] | Flimzy: | Anduin: I'll file one thru Debian, too :P |
| [03:07:14] | Flimzy: | That way even more people have the opportunity not to look at it :P |
| [03:08:09] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: the pain in the ass about it was having to do it manually |
| [03:08:33] | SlicerDicer-: | I would flip p2p from 0 to 1, test 0 to 1, test, 0 to 1 test etc |
| [03:08:37] | SlicerDicer-: | and thats for 2 connections |
| [03:08:41] | SlicerDicer-: | it was a royal pain in the ass |
| [03:08:47] | SlicerDicer-: | so I just made a script that would do it for me |
| [03:08:56] | SlicerDicer-: | btw switching from 0 to 1 like the script does |
| [03:09:01] | SlicerDicer-: | that is very helpful in jogging it to life |
| [03:09:05] | krisp_: | hmm |
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| [03:09:57] | krisp_: | nice |
| [03:10:00] | krisp_: | managed to lock it up |
| [03:10:08] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: What was it? |
| [03:10:15] | krisp_: | dont know yuet |
| [03:10:27] | krisp_: | but i just changed something and it froze the box after showing a zoomed in cbs logo |
| [03:10:30] | krisp_: | no scramble tho |
| [03:10:53] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: I just reset the box and I'm trying to see if that helps |
| [03:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
| [03:11:06] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: did you run my script yet? |
| [03:11:18] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: yeah i did ran through about 10 itterations |
| [03:11:25] | SlicerDicer-: | damn... |
| [03:11:27] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah reset that box |
| [03:12:28] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: now the box is acting up, says D1 and a little thing that goes in circles |
| [03:13:03] | SlicerDicer-: | ? |
| [03:13:17] | metalac: | i'm confused as you are man |
| [03:13:36] | SlicerDicer-: | did the node change? |
| [03:13:49] | metalac: | the box didn't even come up now :) |
| [03:13:55] | metalac: | it's still doing it's init thing |
| [03:14:15] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [03:14:31] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: is it comcast? |
| [03:14:50] | SlicerDicer-: | the box |
| [03:14:52] | SlicerDicer-: | I mean |
| [03:14:56] | metalac: | yea |
| [03:15:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: Any luck yet? |
| [03:15:40] | krisp_: | no now it cant connect to the backend |
| [03:15:41] | SlicerDicer-: | shove it in the oven... metalac its not going to work ;-) |
| [03:15:56] | SlicerDicer-: | lol nah just kidding when you get that cablebox up it should work heh |
| [03:15:58] | metalac: | ahahaha |
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| [03:16:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: Me thinks you need to re-boot your backend then... |
| [03:16:17] | krisp_: | the backend and frontend is the same box |
| [03:16:20] | krisp_: | i fixed that problem tho |
| [03:16:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: Then the backend process probably crashed. |
| [03:16:55] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: any place where I could find what "d1" means |
| [03:17:00] | krisp_: | actually, the box didnt get its ip from the dhcp server, so it coudlnt connect to that ip |
| [03:17:18] | SlicerDicer-: | d1? |
| [03:17:20] | SlicerDicer-: | I am confused |
| [03:17:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: I don't use dhcp for myth... I've got each Myth box assigned a static ip outside of the dhcp range. Much more reliable... |
| [03:18:04] | kieran491: | when setting up one of my mythtv backend it says COMPILE WITH DVB support now as far as i know i have so what else do i need to compile with ti? |
| [03:18:05] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: it says d1 on the front of the box |
| [03:18:06] | kieran491: | *it |
| [03:18:19] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: hit power? |
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| [03:19:01] | RandomDude15: | http://i9.tinypic.com/34ov4ly.jpg |
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| [03:19:07] | RandomDude15: | how do I fix that? |
| [03:19:19] | RandomDude15: | im running ubuntu dapper |
| [03:19:22] | RandomDude15: | *kubuntu |
| [03:19:28] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: i did, even unpluged it from the wall |
| [03:19:44] | SlicerDicer-: | who knows whats going on with the box |
| [03:19:52] | RandomDude15: | and im running with mythtv 0.20 |
| [03:19:56] | SlicerDicer-: | I have no idea why it would say D1 |
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| [03:20:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | RandomDude15: Looks like you're trying to run a new frontend with an old backend... |
| [03:20:05] | Anduin: | RandomDude15: You aren't running the same version everywhere |
| [03:20:16] | RandomDude15: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Installi . . . buntu_Breezy |
| [03:20:19] | RandomDude15: | I used that. |
| [03:21:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | RandomDude15: For both? Or did you build the backend first, a few days before building the frontend box? |
| [03:21:16] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: I found a manual so i'll go looking for it |
| [03:21:23] | RandomDude15: | I only have one computer... |
| [03:21:37] | RandomDude15: | Oh I think I know what I did wrong now. |
| [03:22:01] | RandomDude15: | i think the backend is still 0.19 |
| [03:22:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | RandomDude15: Yeah, that's what we're saying... |
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| [03:22:37] | RandomDude15: | I need to compile the backend. |
| [03:22:53] | Flimzy: | I think it's time to give up on my plan of a combination PVR/Firewire video source |
| [03:22:59] | Flimzy: | and go with duplicate sources |
| [03:23:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | RandomDude15: I suppose it would be 'nicer' if Myth reported something like "Your frontend is version .20, but your backend is only version .19"... instead of the protocol message (or perhaps supplimenting it...) |
| [03:23:12] | nandy_: | krisp_: ?? |
| [03:23:34] | krisp_: | what |
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| [03:25:16] | nandy_: | kr4z: ltns slappy |
| [03:25:18] | nandy_: | err |
| [03:25:21] | nandy_: | krisp_: ltns slappy |
| [03:27:24] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: damn it now i got to call comcast and see what's up with it :) |
| [03:28:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | metalac: Do they have a 'smart card' like a sat receiver? If so, have you tried re-seating it? |
| [03:28:52] | metalac: | J-e-f-f-A: don't see a smart card |
| [03:29:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | metalac: I suppose you tried physically un-plugging it for a few seconds too... |
| [03:29:37] | metalac: | J-e-f-f-A: yes i did :) |
| [03:29:46] | metalac: | oh guess what I'm on hold |
| [03:29:48] | metalac: | woow :) |
| [03:30:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | metalac: Yeah, you probably need to cumcast... (oops, did I spell that wrong? ;-) |
| [03:30:12] | metalac: | heheheheeh |
| [03:30:24] | SlicerDicer-: | haha metalac well let me know how it goes |
| [03:30:39] | ** SlicerDicer- loves comcast buisness connections ;-) no hold time ** | |
| [03:30:48] | krisp_: | ok |
| [03:30:49] | SlicerDicer-: | but the stupid ass cabletv still puts me on hold |
| [03:30:52] | krisp_: | it's the mpeg2 decoder |
| [03:31:09] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: I have comcasts business connection :) |
| [03:31:16] | SlicerDicer-: | 12/1 YARR! |
| [03:31:17] | krisp_: | if i change it to standard it works for about a second and locks up, scrambled with the other one |
| [03:31:20] | a1fa|64: | metalac, where are you from again |
| [03:31:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | metalac: I had c*cast for internet, then I got verizon FiOS when it was available at my home... Much better service, and 2x as fast! |
| [03:31:37] | metalac: | oh wow they have this cool thing so you don't have to wait they just call you when you're next in line :) |
| [03:31:48] | metalac: | a1fa|64: seattle |
| [03:31:59] | a1fa|64: | no origionally |
| [03:32:00] | nandy_: | krisp_: <-- druppy |
| [03:32:02] | metalac: | J-e-f-f-A: i use DSL |
| [03:32:03] | Flimzy: | blah |
| [03:32:05] | metalac: | a1fa|64: bosnia |
| [03:32:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: If you set it to 'standard' does it work? |
| [03:32:07] | krisp_: | ah |
| [03:32:10] | krisp_: | no |
| [03:32:12] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: I will be back in a bit |
| [03:32:12] | a1fa|64: | odakle iz bosne |
| [03:32:13] | krisp_: | if i set it to standard |
| [03:32:15] | krisp_: | it locks up |
| [03:32:18] | metalac: | a1fa|64: sarajevo |
| [03:32:24] | kieran491: | hi |
| [03:32:24] | a1fa|64: | fino |
| [03:32:28] | krisp_: | colors are off too on both but that seems pretty minor |
| [03:32:32] | a1fa|64: | koji grad u wa? |
| [03:32:39] | metalac: | a1fa|64: seattle |
| [03:32:41] | metalac: | a1fa|64: a ti? |
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| [03:32:44] | a1fa|64: | koje godiste? |
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| [03:32:47] | a1fa|64: | Tuzla |
| [03:32:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: What video card? |
| [03:32:51] | metalac: | a1fa|64: 82 |
| [03:32:54] | krisp_: | ati x1300 |
| [03:32:57] | a1fa|64: | slab al skroz ;) |
| [03:32:58] | a1fa|64: | 83 |
| [03:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | english? |
| [03:33:02] | krisp_: | using ati propritary drivers |
| [03:33:04] | SlicerDicer-: | please ;-) |
| [03:33:05] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [03:33:08] | a1fa|64: | no comprende englecio |
| [03:33:12] | a1fa|64: | brb |
| [03:33:16] | a1fa|64: | need to take a poo |
| [03:33:19] | SlicerDicer-: | ok I am outa here take care everybody |
| [03:33:21] | ** J-e-f-f-A doesn't like ATI on linux.... ** | |
| [03:33:25] | SlicerDicer-: | metalac: contact me later let me know what happens |
| [03:33:34] | metalac: | SlicerDicer: sure thing |
| [03:33:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | a1fa|64: Thanks... WE all needed to hear that! |
| [03:33:44] | a1fa|64: | Jesil ti znao Edu iz Tuzle? |
| [03:33:58] | a1fa|64: | I think he commited suicide.. He lived in Seattle |
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| [03:34:02] | Ediehow: | xris: help sir |
| [03:34:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: Do you have an Nvidia card to try instead?!? ;-) |
| [03:34:30] | krisp_: | not that works |
| [03:34:37] | xris: | Ediehow: ? |
| [03:34:44] | krisp_: | rather, not spare |
| [03:34:49] | Ediehow: | we installed that codec still no go |
| [03:35:14] | a1fa|64: | Jesil ti znao Edu iz Tuzle? |
| [03:35:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: Well, if it's in a winblows box, swap the two... ati works fine for winblows, but Nvidia works much better for Myth-- imho anyways... |
| [03:35:40] | krisp_: | not going to swap a 7800gt for a x1300 |
| [03:36:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: I have an ATI 7200 that won't play HD on a Athlon 64 3000.... But plays perfectly with an Nvidia... ;-) |
| [03:36:39] | Flimzy: | Why does mythfrontend keep thinking the backend has died when it hasn't? |
| [03:37:16] | krisp_: | network interruption? |
| [03:37:39] | Flimzy: | It's on the same machine |
| [03:37:53] | krisp_: | funny how that works out |
| [03:38:15] | Flimzy: | Yeah, I'm not laughing very hard |
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| [03:38:55] | krisp_: | hm looks like its not the decoder |
| [03:39:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: Maybe try swapping your backend address from "localhost" to "127.0.0.1" or visa-versa, see if that helps... |
| [03:39:21] | kieran491: | when trying to modprobe my tv card i get this error |
| [03:39:22] | kieran491: | dvb_bt8xx: if you have the ALSA bt87x audio driver installed, try removing it. |
| [03:39:45] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: I just changed from 127.0.0.1 to the actual IP, but had no effect. |
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| [03:40:05] | Flimzy: | kieran491: So what happens when you try to remove the ALSA bt87x driver? |
| [03:40:17] | kieran491: | i dont think i have that mdoule |
| [03:40:21] | Flimzy: | Did you check? |
| [03:40:33] | kieran491: | dvb-bt8xx: probe of dvb0 failed with error -14 |
| [03:40:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: Well, it was worth a shot... You should probably put it back to 127.0.0.1 |
| [03:41:07] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: do I need to rerun the filldatabase script after modifying a setting like that? |
| [03:41:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: No. You should only have to restart the frontend. |
| [03:41:44] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A, that's what I thought. |
| [03:42:01] | Flimzy: | Well the other problem, possibly related, is that the firewire source still isn't working quite right now that I'vve added analog sources |
| [03:42:10] | Flimzy: | I'm wondering if that's confusing things somehow |
| [03:42:26] | Flimzy: | so I'll tackle that before worrying about the backend dying-but-not-really-dying all the time |
| [03:42:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: Do you actually have any analog sources? |
| [03:42:46] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: As of right now, I have a coax cable plugged into the PVR-500. |
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| [03:43:08] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: My preference would be to use S-Video from the STB for the 5c channels only... but I don't think I'm going to get that working. |
| [03:43:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: So you do... |
| [03:43:32] | gordonjl: | all, has anyone had errors installing the firmware for the pvr 350 card? I'm getting the following after typing "dmesg": ..."ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw"... |
| [03:43:34] | gordonjl: | ideas? |
| [03:43:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: I use 3 dish receivers with S-Video and an IR blaster... |
| [03:43:49] | Dagmar: | Is it in /lib/firmware? |
| [03:43:50] | gordonjl: | I'm installing on dapper |
| [03:44:06] | gordonjl: | it seems to be. It's a link |
| [03:44:07] | Flimzy: | Yeah, for the moment, I have standard, boring, analog sources |
| [03:44:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: But all of my channels come thru svideo – not just some, like I gather you want todo. |
| [03:44:12] | Flimzy: | where channels are even changed thru them! |
| [03:44:17] | Dagmar: | There's a particular place that you have to put the firmware, and it's mentioned on the wiki |
| [03:44:33] | Dagmar: | ...and ther'es another _possible_ place that it should go that the wiki tells how to find out about |
| [03:44:33] | krisp_: | ivtv0: All encoder MPEG stream buffers are full. Dropping data. |
| [03:44:34] | krisp_: | ivtv0: Cause: the application is not reading fast enough. |
| [03:44:38] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: For now, I'm trying for a simple setup... analog-only PVR sources, and one Firewire source. |
| [03:44:51] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: Once I have that working, I'll start fooling around with other weirdness. |
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| [03:45:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: On my setup I also have an HD3000, and when going to 'live tv' it always defaults to the HD tuner. Perhaps that's happening with your firewire tuner too... |
| [03:46:07] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: It was defaulting to chnl 2 on an analog tuner. When I tried to go to channel 610 (ABC HD), it said all available tuners were in use. |
| [03:46:15] | Flimzy: | But when looking at stats in frontend, it says all 3 tuners are idle |
| [03:46:59] | krisp_: | so setting it to interlace and using ffmpeg decoder causes it to crash |
| [03:47:03] | Flimzy: | blah |
| [03:47:07] | krisp_: | but the picture is unscrambled |
| [03:47:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: Humm... |
| [03:47:13] | Flimzy: | Now I have disabled the analog tuners |
| [03:47:14] | krisp_: | albeit off color |
| [03:47:15] | Flimzy: | and have just firewire |
| [03:47:26] | Flimzy: | it says no sources available |
| [03:47:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: Which tuner again? 150? |
| [03:47:37] | krisp_: | yea |
| [03:47:37] | Flimzy: | when I try to look at the status for the tuners, it says it cannot connect to the master backend |
| [03:47:42] | Flimzy: | which *is* running |
| [03:48:04] | nandy_: | on a PVR-150 when i plug in the IR cable should it start auto blinking> |
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| [03:48:32] | krisp_: | i dont have ir for my 150 ive got a serial receiver |
| [03:48:37] | Dagmar: | TREE HUGGIN' HIPPIE! |
| [03:48:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: I think the firewire issue is what is causing the weirdness... Try adding the analog tuners back in, and deleting the firewire tuner, and see if everything behaves normally... |
| [03:48:40] | Flimzy: | Oh, I see part of the problem I think |
| [03:48:42] | Dagmar: | doh wrong channel |
| [03:48:54] | Flimzy: | I have the firewire tuner type set to 'other' instead of DCT6200 |
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| [03:48:57] | Flimzy: | so it doesn't know how to chane the channels |
| [03:49:12] | Flimzy: | if I'm lucky, that will fix it all |
| [03:49:50] | Flimzy: | ha! |
| [03:49:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | krisp_: I bought a 150 to add to my system, but it didn't seem to 'get along' with either my 500, or my chipset. So I pulled it out and put in my 'old' 250, and it works well with the 500. |
| [03:49:55] | Flimzy: | it's workingg... at least so far |
| [03:50:08] | Flimzy: | altho the channel changing doesn't work |
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| [03:50:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: Make sure you didn't specify a channel change script.... Or it over-rides the default channel changing. |
| [03:51:00] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: I think I will need to specificy a channel change script... since the internal channel changing isn't working. |
| [03:51:13] | Flimzy: | J-e-f-f-A: The PVR-150 and PVR-500 use the same chipset. |
| [03:51:51] | J-e-f-f-A: | Flimzy: Yeah, I don't know why they didn't "get along", but the 250's doing the job just fine, so I left it in there! |
| [03:51:58] | Flimzy: | hehe |
| [03:52:20] | kieran491: | when modprobing one of my tv cards i am unable to load it it somthing about orive of dvb0 failed with error -14 any ideas why? |
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| [03:53:08] | RandomDude15: | has anyone in here got 0.20 working? |
| [03:53:35] | metalac: | RandomDude15: what's the problem? |
| [03:53:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | RandomDude15: Not yet — I don't want to goof up my "working very well, thank you!" system... ;-) |
| [03:54:28] | RandomDude15: | backend issues |
| [03:54:45] | RandomDude15: | im going back to 0.19 |
| [03:55:52] | jasta: | has anyone given any thought to a last.fm-type autodj feature for mythmusic? |
| [03:56:34] | jasta: | i haven't worked with last.fm web services before but i imagine they're probably quite simple. seems like it would be a nice way to go. i know that amarok has a nice reference implementation that i might be able to use somehow. |
| [03:56:45] | RandomDude15: | I use last.fm. |
| [03:56:48] | RandomDude15: | with amarok. |
| [03:56:54] | RandomDude15: | http://last.fm/user/x0redhat0x |
| [03:57:05] | jasta: | that is not what i was asking but ok. |
| [03:57:41] | RandomDude15: | i wouldnt want to use mythmusic unless it had last.fm |
| [03:58:09] | jasta: | i currently use my myth box mostly for dvds and mythmusic. mythmusic has a lot of potential to get better. |
| [03:58:15] | jasta: | autodj would be a great start. |
| [03:59:25] | Flimzy: | Does the Firewire Node start at 0 or 1 in Myth? |
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| [04:01:16] | Flimzy: | If plugreport says Node 1, should I use Node 1 in myth, too? Or does Myth insanely start at 1, and thus I need to use the default of 2? hehe |
| [04:09:13] | krisp_: | tis the xserver |
| [04:09:27] | krisp_: | maybe the ati driver for xfree86 is more stable than the xorg one |
| [04:09:41] | krisp_: | its not the xserver its the display driver |
| [04:12:19] | Flimzy: | cool |
| [04:12:24] | Flimzy: | with the correct node, it seems to change channels okay |
| [04:13:10] | Flimzy: | Now I just need to filter out all of the stupid 5C channels, and I think I'll be in good shape |
| [04:14:02] | hjohnson: | Flimzy: alas, from what I understand around here, if I did that, I'd have virtually nothing left to watch. :( |
| [04:14:17] | ** Brains needs to figure out a way to see the 5C status of an HD channel since his DCT-6200 doesn't output the diag screen on composite out if the channel is an HD channel. ** | |
| [04:14:20] | Flimzy: | That's true almost everywhere |
| [04:14:39] | Flimzy: | Brains: You can change that very easily |
| [04:14:41] | hjohnson: | Flimzy: it sucks. |
| [04:15:09] | ** hjohnson is pissed off at the cable companies and their inane DRM ** | |
| [04:15:14] | hjohnson: | one of these days someone will break it. |
| [04:15:29] | Brains: | Flimzy: I'm eagerly listening... |
| [04:15:57] | Flimzy: | Brains: You can easily change the output format/port on a DCT-6200 |
| [04:16:04] | Flimzy: | Brains: Power-off, Select Select |
| [04:16:14] | Flimzy: | it will begin flashing the current output format on the LCD display |
| [04:16:25] | Flimzy: | or rather the aspect ratio |
| [04:16:32] | Flimzy: | down arrow until YpBpR flashes |
| [04:16:37] | Flimzy: | then right arrow until you see the display |
| [04:16:44] | Flimzy: | then power off again |
| [04:16:50] | Flimzy: | power on, go to the chnl you want to test |
| [04:16:53] | Flimzy: | power off, select select again |
| [04:16:58] | Flimzy: | go to diag menu, see if 5C is on or off |
| [04:17:07] | Flimzy: | when youv'e done that with all desired channels, go back to the HD output format you want |
| [04:19:03] | ** Brains shrugs, he'll double check it tomorrow... He was pretty sure he had looked at those settings already but it has been a while. ** | |
| [04:21:10] | hjohnson: | anything HD is 5c=1 here.. |
| [04:21:12] | hjohnson: | how useless is that |
| [04:21:16] | ** hjohnson writes his MP ** | |
| [04:21:19] | Flimzy: | That's not legal in the U.S. |
| [04:21:25] | Flimzy: | if it's broadcast over the air |
| [04:21:38] | hjohnson: | hell, the government owned station is 5c=1 |
| [04:21:59] | hjohnson: | (CBC) |
| [04:22:00] | Flimzy: | If it's available off-air, it has to be broadcast in the clear over cable |
| [04:22:07] | Flimzy: | (maybe not over satelite... I dunno) |
| [04:22:33] | hjohnson: | Flimzy: which of course excludes most of the content I'm actually interested in... Sci-fi, Discovery, and TLC |
| [04:22:47] | Flimzy: | Aye. |
| [04:22:53] | Flimzy: | Here, those are still analog channels, tho |
| [04:23:00] | hjohnson: | it's farking lame |
| [04:23:16] | hjohnson: | what I find interesting is that people still manage to get the HD content ripped |
| [04:23:21] | hjohnson: | woner how they do it |
| [04:23:28] | Flimzy: | Well I'm watching HD in Myth |
| [04:23:31] | Flimzy: | but the audio is out of sync |
| [04:23:31] | Flimzy: | hrm |
| [04:23:54] | Flimzy: | someone remind me what keys to use to change the volume |
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| [04:24:18] | Anduin: | [] |
| [04:24:22] | Flimzy: | found it |
| [04:25:01] | Flimzy: | need to turn deinterlacing off, I think |
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| [04:25:49] | Flimzy: | wow |
| [04:25:55] | Flimzy: | I get MTVHD w/o 5C |
| [04:25:57] | Flimzy: | that surprises me |
| [04:26:01] | Flimzy: | not that I care about MTV |
| [04:26:21] | Flimzy: | especially when it's out of sync :/ |
| [04:26:34] | hjohnson: | haha |
| [04:26:52] | hjohnson: | Flimzy: well, given that the best way to watch britney and her ilk is with the volume turned down, that's not a big issue |
| [04:27:00] | Flimzy: | Well I learned that Natasha Bettingfield <sp?> is blonde |
| [04:27:43] | hjohnson: | well, I'm thinking I might just do SDTV for my set-top box and giv eup on this whole HDTV thing |
| [04:27:49] | Flimzy: | sync seems to get better after a few seconds |
| [04:28:11] | Flimzy: | so it's probably a buffering issue |
| [04:28:42] | Flimzy: | there's nothing like looking at local weather maps in HD |
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| [04:30:21] | Flimzy: | well I can get Discovery in HD |
| [04:30:27] | Flimzy: | but I can't get SD Discovery Kids |
| [04:30:29] | Flimzy: | drat! |
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| [04:33:08] | hjohnson: | lol |
| [04:34:04] | Flimzy: | Perhaps the best thing about Myth is the ability to remove channels I don't care about |
| [04:34:07] | Flimzy: | like the shop at home networks |
| [04:34:17] | hjohnson: | Flimzy: heh |
| [04:34:25] | hjohnson: | I've done that with my VCR, which i use right now |
| [04:34:28] | Flimzy: | If only I could keep the channels I do care about! |
| [04:34:38] | Flimzy: | I currently use my Cox DVR |
| [04:34:46] | Flimzy: | which I've used since I started working there and got free digital cable |
| [04:34:51] | Flimzy: | I used myth prior to that w/ analog only |
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| [04:42:17] | krisp_: | well thats better |
| [04:42:23] | krisp_: | almost |
| [04:42:33] | krisp_: | downgrading the ati driver to previous revision fixed the scrambling |
| [04:42:42] | krisp_: | all the people are blue tho |
| [04:42:55] | GreyFoxx: | Did you compile your own version? |
| [04:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Of Myth that is |
| [04:43:04] | krisp_: | yea |
| [04:43:15] | GreyFoxx: | cause thereis a #define you need to uncomment to fix that |
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| [04:43:22] | krisp_: | to fix the blue people? or the scramble |
| [04:43:31] | GreyFoxx: | The blue colour shifting |
| [04:43:36] | krisp_: | ok ill look for it |
| [04:43:45] | krisp_: | finally a helpful answer from here ;) |
| [04:44:11] | GreyFoxx: | libs/libmythtv/videoout_xv.cpp around line 67 |
| [04:44:23] | GreyFoxx: | uncomment the USE_ATI_PROPRIETARY_DRIVER_XVIDEO_HACK define |
| [04:44:41] | GreyFoxx: | then just do another make;make install |
| [04:44:41] | Flimzy: | Someone remind me where to enable deinterlacing |
| [04:44:42] | krisp_: | super |
| [04:44:56] | GreyFoxx: | Flimzy: Settings -> Tv Setting -> Playback |
| [04:44:59] | Flimzy: | Hrm... channels 101–103 are 5C, but 104 isn't. |
| [04:45:02] | Flimzy: | Weirdness |
| [04:45:07] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx, thanks |
| [04:45:31] | Flimzy: | hrm |
| [04:45:31] | krisp_: | should be a note somewhere that 8.28.8 ati driver doesn't work properly |
| [04:45:33] | Flimzy: | it's already turned on |
| [04:45:42] | krisp_: | but 8.27.8 does |
| [04:45:53] | gordonjl: | Dagmar: uggh ivtv install makes my brain hurt |
| [04:46:03] | GreyFoxx: | krisp_: You could add something to the wiki maybe |
| [04:46:08] | Flimzy: | Is there any reason not to use the Standard VxMC MPEG2 decoder? |
| [04:46:15] | Flimzy: | It was previously set just to Standard |
| [04:46:31] | GreyFoxx: | Flimzy: Your OSD will be grayscale,no colours |
| [04:46:46] | gordonjl: | all the pages I've read on howto install it still cause "unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw" with depmod |
| [04:46:50] | GreyFoxx: | and unless you are hurting for CPU, why bother? Some people also report other issueswith XvMC |
| [04:46:50] | Flimzy: | Hmm |
| [04:46:59] | Flimzy: | Okay |
| [04:47:00] | gordonjl: | any ideas from folks what is going on? |
| [04:47:05] | gordonjl: | ubuntu dapper |
| [04:47:18] | Flimzy: | I was having audio sync issues with HD videio |
| [04:47:23] | Flimzy: | could possibly be CPU related |
| [04:47:28] | GreyFoxx: | gordonjl: the ivtv driver source doesn't come with the firmware images, you still need to get thoseand put them in place |
| [04:47:32] | Flimzy: | but I'm using a dual-core AMD64 |
| [04:47:41] | Flimzy: | so I kinda doubt it's the CPU |
| [04:47:57] | krisp_: | you can download them from the site tho there is a link like third news item down |
| [04:48:21] | gordonjl: | GreyFoxx: does that apply to this error? "unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw" |
| [04:48:28] | GreyFoxx: | gordonjl: yes |
| [04:48:49] | GreyFoxx: | You must get the firmware images/files and putthem in place. They are NOT included with the ivtv source |
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| [04:49:11] | GreyFoxx: | Check out theIVTV site like krisp: mentions |
| [04:49:21] | Flimzy: | I hope BBC America isn't encrypted |
| [04:49:33] | gordonjl: | oh, I understand. I've been doing that. creating links to the files, trying to put them in the correct plugin directory...all of it. |
| [04:49:46] | ** GreyFoxx heads to bed ** | |
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| [04:50:51] | Flimzy: | Oh good, I can watch the Lifetime Movie Netowrk without worrying about 5C |
| [04:51:37] | Flimzy: | I'm getting a lot of jittering on some digital channels... is this a known problem? |
| [04:52:12] | krisp_: | now to get the hd tuner working |
| [04:52:51] | Flimzy: | 2 more channels I can remove from the lineup: Gospel Music TV and Family Network |
| [04:53:30] | Flimzy: | oh, and TBN |
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| [04:59:03] | Flimzy: | I really don't understand how they decide what to 5C encrypt and what not to |
| [04:59:11] | Flimzy: | NickToons is 5c-free |
| [04:59:17] | Flimzy: | Nickelodean Games and Sports is 5C encrypted |
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| [05:00:19] | krisp_: | one might be basic cable and the other standard digital? |
| [05:01:30] | Flimzy: | No |
| [05:01:36] | Flimzy: | everything above 100 is digital |
| [05:01:39] | Flimzy: | NickToons is 221 |
| [05:01:44] | Flimzy: | Nick GAS is 222 |
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| [05:02:45] | Narkov: | does mythtv-setup use OpenGL in 0.20 or is it just the frontend? |
| [05:04:50] | Flimzy: | I think I can take MTVJAMS off my list |
| [05:07:32] | CCFL_Man_: | cable companies can fuck themselves when they choose to encrypt firewire output |
| [05:07:53] | Flimzy: | It's not the cable companies that choose it. |
| [05:08:05] | Flimzy: | It's the broadcasters |
| [05:08:20] | CCFL_Man_: | then fuck the broadcasters |
| [05:08:57] | Flimzy: | Go right ahead :) |
| [05:09:01] | CCFL_Man_: | i'm so fucking sick of industry dominating dickheads dictating what i can and can't do with fair use content |
| [05:10:05] | CCFL_Man_: | then fuckin directv and dish have closed dvrs |
| [05:10:07] | Narkov: | you sure it's "fair use content" ? |
| [05:10:12] | CCFL_Man_: | completely closed |
| [05:10:20] | CCFL_Man_: | i'm sure |
| [05:10:37] | CCFL_Man_: | it comes into my home and i can use the content according to fair use |
| [05:10:43] | Narkov: | anyone know how to disable OpenGL in the mythtv-setup menu's ? |
| [05:10:55] | Narkov: | lol..not really CCFL_Man_ |
| [05:12:46] | CCFL_Man_: | Narkov: according to fair use law, yes |
| [05:12:49] | Flimzy: | There is plenty of room for fair use |
| [05:12:58] | CCFL_Man_: | i can make content backups for my own use |
| [05:13:16] | Flimzy: | CCFL_Man_: Not any more... according to DMCA (which is completely bullshit IMO) |
| [05:13:22] | Flimzy: | If it's digital, you can't necissarilyi make backups |
| [05:13:35] | Flimzy: | which is completely stupid to differentiate between digital and analog media in law |
| [05:14:01] | Flimzy: | "If you print your book using purple ink, it can be copied freely, but if you print it using blue ink, it's illegal to copy it |
| [05:14:02] | Flimzy: | " |
| [05:14:59] | xris: | new nuvexport pushed out. mp4/xvid tweaks and forced requirement for .20 |
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| [05:23:21] | Klink: | anyone have some recommendations on troubleshooting a machine that randomly hard locks? |
| [05:23:35] | Narkov: | memtest86 Klink |
| [05:25:11] | Klink: | Narkov: OK...was going to try that...how can I be sure that it isn't my graphics card causing the problem? Or maybe the Internal player in .20 |
| [05:26:10] | Narkov: | well it could be |
| [05:26:54] | Flimzy: | Try another card |
| [05:27:02] | Flimzy: | The player in .20 shouldn't cause the entire machine to lock |
| [05:27:09] | Flimzy: | worst case, it should only cause myth to crash |
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| [05:28:45] | Klink: | Running memtest86 right now...I had cpuspeed running as well...will disable that. |
| [05:29:18] | Flimzy: | you should run memtest86 from the boot disk |
| [05:29:25] | Flimzy: | then it's the only thing running at all |
| [05:29:36] | Narkov: | IAW Flimzy |
| [05:29:42] | Klink: | I have a GeForce 6600GT AGP.../proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status tells me agp is disabled... |
| [05:29:50] | Klink: | Yes, just booted off install cd |
| [05:30:16] | Narkov: | you havent booted into linux have you/ |
| [05:30:18] | Narkov: | ? |
| [05:30:27] | Narkov: | just booted to mt86 ? |
| [05:30:38] | Klink: | no...off the fc5 install cd and ran memtest86 at prompt |
| [05:31:36] | Flimzy: | What si the Transport Editor on the Channel editor screen for? |
| [05:31:56] | Narkov: | edits the video and audio PID's ? |
| [05:32:10] | Flimzy: | hmm |
| [05:32:40] | Flimzy: | And is there a way to set specific channels to a higher priority than lower channels? Specifically so that HD channels take priority over SD channels? (I don't want to record in SD when HD is available) |
| [05:33:12] | krisp_: | why is it that the built-in qam scan doesnt pick up any channels but the dvb-utils scanner does |
| [05:33:33] | sphing: | SlicerDicer: you still around? |
| [05:33:42] | SlicerDicer-: | yep |
| [05:34:18] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: What speed do you use for your firewire setup? 100, 200 or 400mbit? |
| [05:34:29] | SlicerDicer-: | 200 |
| [05:34:32] | SlicerDicer-: | with daisy chain |
| [05:34:53] | sphing: | can you send me that bash script |
| [05:34:59] | sphing: | so i can give it a shot... I'm desperate... |
| [05:35:06] | sphing: | this was working 2 days ago |
| [05:35:22] | Flimzy: | I'm using a single 6200 right now (will add a 2nd another day), and noticing some performance issues, especially on HD channels... it seems audio is out of sync, especially at first... and get some frame jittering. I'm using 100mbit right now... I don't expect going to 200 would make a difference for a single node tho, would it? |
| [05:35:47] | SlicerDicer-: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/FwX3jK33.html |
| [05:35:52] | SlicerDicer-: | that should work sphing |
| [05:35:55] | SlicerDicer-: | if your problem is that |
| [05:36:01] | SlicerDicer-: | be sure to run plugreport |
| [05:36:08] | SlicerDicer-: | then set -n 1 to the proper node |
| [05:36:12] | SlicerDicer-: | and -r 1 to the proper node |
| [05:36:34] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy: maybe its your computer not able to handle the decode? |
| [05:36:35] | sphing: | ok |
| [05:36:43] | krisp_: | is it possible to replace the qam frequency file |
| [05:36:46] | hjohnson: | Flimzy: SLI won't help decoding much. :P |
| [05:36:47] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy: I have seen jitter "prebuffering pause" on hdtv |
| [05:36:56] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: *maybe* it's a 3200+ x2 |
| [05:37:16] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy: hey dont knock how much HDTV can make a cpu cry for mercy |
| [05:37:21] | Flimzy: | If it's my hardware, I'd guess more to do with HD I/O or something |
| [05:37:23] | SlicerDicer-: | I have to use XVMC on every last box I have |
| [05:37:38] | Flimzy: | I've watched a lot of HD stuff on here before--not streaming from firewire, tho... |
| [05:37:40] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy: I can record on 3 boxes at once and watch HDTV |
| [05:37:42] | Flimzy: | just usenet downloads |
| [05:37:43] | SlicerDicer-: | its not a limit like that |
| [05:37:46] | Flimzy: | (what, that's not legal?) |
| [05:37:56] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy: usenet I would bet was not multifriggin gig |
| [05:38:10] | SlicerDicer-: | it was compressed less bitrate etc |
| [05:38:15] | Flimzy: | aye |
| [05:38:17] | SlicerDicer-: | raw mpeg2 firewire out is huge bitrate |
| [05:38:22] | SlicerDicer-: | thus cpu has a heartattack |
| [05:38:25] | Flimzy: | would I get better performance with the Standard XvMC decoder? |
| [05:38:29] | SlicerDicer-: | use XVMC if you have a nvidia card |
| [05:38:33] | Flimzy: | I do. |
| [05:38:39] | Flimzy: | I have a TC nvidia card |
| [05:38:43] | Flimzy: | the cheapest PCI-X I could find |
| [05:38:43] | SlicerDicer-: | TC? |
| [05:38:59] | Flimzy: | TurboCache... IOW "We steal your system memory instead of providing our own" |
| [05:39:04] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh hehe |
| [05:39:09] | Flimzy: | But I figured since I'm not doing any 3D texturing, it hopefully won't matter |
| [05:39:13] | Flimzy: | *fingers crossed* |
| [05:39:17] | Flimzy: | has only 16mb of onboard vid ram |
| [05:39:18] | SlicerDicer-: | if your running debian? |
| [05:39:22] | SlicerDicer-: | are you running debian? |
| [05:39:23] | Flimzy: | Yes, I use debian |
| [05:39:29] | SlicerDicer-: | christian's packages? |
| [05:39:39] | Flimzy: | aye |
| [05:39:43] | SlicerDicer-: | they are fubar |
| [05:39:45] | SlicerDicer-: | with xvmc |
| [05:39:49] | Flimzy: | ah |
| [05:40:14] | Gumby: | I have two tuners in a single box setup, 1 pvr-250 and 1 pvr-150. I get a lot of visual artifacts with the pvr-250 but none with the 150. ANyone have any ideas why this might be? |
| [05:40:15] | SlicerDicer-: | deb http://home.arcor.de/scorpidnb/mythtv/0.20-fixes/debian/ sid main |
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| [05:40:20] | SlicerDicer-: | I can personally verify that works Flimzy |
| [05:40:26] | cesman: | howdy folks |
| [05:40:31] | Gumby: | lo cesman |
| [05:40:39] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy: put that repo in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| [05:40:47] | cesman: | hey Gumby |
| [05:40:50] | SlicerDicer-: | till christian fixes the package anyway ;-) |
| [05:40:52] | Flimzy: | cool |
| [05:40:53] | SlicerDicer-: | but yeah they are fubar |
| [05:41:05] | Flimzy: | I assume XvMC still only works w/ B&W OSD? |
| [05:41:09] | SlicerDicer-: | I had my 6800GS flip out |
| [05:41:11] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [05:41:11] | Flimzy: | (not that I care much if that improves performance) |
| [05:41:19] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy: there is a hack that you can change the OSD |
| [05:41:23] | SlicerDicer-: | its on the wiki somewhere |
| [05:41:25] | Flimzy: | okay |
| [05:41:27] | Flimzy: | I'll look for it |
| [05:41:28] | SlicerDicer-: | query the sql |
| [05:43:46] | Flimzy: | I think I have my channel listing now correct |
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| [05:44:43] | Flimzy: | time to set up some recordings and see how it all works |
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| [05:45:15] | Klink: | How do you stop LiveTV from using a specific tuner? |
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| [05:47:13] | SlicerDicer-: | Klink: umm why? |
| [05:47:34] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: Is Myth smart enough to know which shows are HD and which channels are HD, and prefer an HD channel for an HD-available show? |
| [05:47:42] | Klink: | I don't want LiveTV to use my firewire encoder |
| [05:48:05] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy: not that I am aware of |
| [05:48:06] | Gumby: | unplug it? |
| [05:48:08] | Gumby: | hehe |
| [05:48:33] | cesman: | MythTV will use the first tuner defined in the db for livetv |
| [05:48:38] | SlicerDicer-: | Klink: why would you not want it to? |
| [05:48:47] | Flimzy: | I have duplicate channels, as is expected... SD and HD... and myth is choosing to record on the SD channels for some reason |
| [05:48:58] | SlicerDicer-: | Klink: if you are watching livetv from firewire and it needs to record it will ask do you wish to record and watch or record and exit etc |
| [05:49:04] | SlicerDicer-: | Klink: then you can still record |
| [05:49:07] | Klink: | it seems to be acting funky in LiveTV |
| [05:49:16] | cesman: | MythTV is choosing to record the progam you told it to |
| [05:49:17] | SlicerDicer-: | otherwise if its recording it will just flip to the other tuner if you have one |
| [05:49:20] | Flimzy: | I'll set the HD priority anyway, and see what that does. |
| [05:49:35] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy: I always record from HD channels manually when possible |
| [05:49:36] | cesman: | if you want it to record HD, tell it to record HD and not SD |
| [05:49:40] | SlicerDicer-: | indeed |
| [05:49:55] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy: I even deleted the SD versions of channels |
| [05:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | like SD NBC? bye bye |
| [05:50:18] | SlicerDicer-: | datadirect lets you trim your channel lineup quite nicely |
| [05:50:33] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: I don't want do that at this point... since as it is, I only have 1 HD tuner and 3 (counting the HD) SD tuners |
| [05:50:35] | SlicerDicer-: | Klink: what do you mean its acting funky |
| [05:50:37] | Flimzy: | I'd rather get a show in SD than not at all |
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| [05:51:11] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh |
| [05:51:12] | Flimzy: | I'll give all the HD channels a priority of +10 and see what happens with that |
| [05:51:33] | Klink: | I'm not sure...it could be a hardware problem with my frontend. |
| [05:51:57] | Flimzy: | that did it! |
| [05:52:27] | SlicerDicer-: | Klink: explain the behavior |
| [05:53:59] | Klink: | Just the odd lockup, once playing in LiveTV, once an avi and once in the menu...I've got the opengl painter running... |
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| [05:54:30] | SlicerDicer-: | Klink: no idea I havent seen that before |
| [05:54:45] | SlicerDicer-: | well unless your talking about black screen then dump to menu |
| [05:55:02] | SlicerDicer-: | and it says in the output of a terminal unable to locate foo.mpg or similar |
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| [05:55:44] | Klink: | back to firewire...I think my cableco is randomly enabling 5c...so I'd like it by default to tune to one of my pvr250s in the backend |
| [05:57:41] | SlicerDicer-: | Klink: when you go to watch a program on livetv with firewire |
| [05:57:47] | SlicerDicer-: | it kicks you back to the menu from time to time? |
| [05:57:51] | SlicerDicer-: | randomly works |
| [05:57:58] | Klink: | ya |
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| [05:58:16] | SlicerDicer-: | what cableco/box? |
| [05:59:10] | sphing: | SlicerDicer: my cablebox jumps nodes... is that normal? |
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| [05:59:13] | SlicerDicer-: | and do you have the program test-mpeg2 installed with iec61883 |
| [05:59:17] | Klink: | Narkov: Memtest just completed one pass without errors...how many times is sufficient? |
| [05:59:28] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: what is with everybody having the nodes jump |
| [05:59:29] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [05:59:35] | Klink: | SlicerDicer: DCT6200, cableco is Shaw Canada, in Vancouver |
| [05:59:47] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
| [05:59:57] | SlicerDicer-: | do you have test-mpeg2 installed? |
| [06:00:05] | sphing: | i'm running it now |
| [06:00:28] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: I really have no solution to jumping nodes other than wait? I mean mine jumped nodes for a period of about a week then stopped |
| [06:00:33] | Klink: | SlicerDicer: ya, I've been using your script for about a week now with much better success |
| [06:00:44] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh I did give you my script |
| [06:00:51] | SlicerDicer-: | I have been thinking of expanding it Klink |
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| [06:01:34] | Flimzy: | wow, I suddenly have 3 programs recording at once |
| [06:02:00] | Flimzy: | I wish the aspect ratio on the preview screen would bbe correct. hehe |
| [06:02:14] | Klink: | I think it's definately a problem with the provider....there's some threads on Shaw and how they randomly enable and disable 5c....need something that runs in the background to test the channels to see if they are working |
| [06:02:23] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh |
| [06:02:47] | sphing: | btw... when mythbackend crashes... it locks my kernel |
| [06:02:49] | Klink: | what would setting the 6200 to 480i do to recording hidef channels? |
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| [06:02:56] | sphing: | i cant reboot... and things run weird |
| [06:03:08] | SlicerDicer-: | no idea Klink hehe |
| [06:03:23] | sphing: | ill try the script now on a fresh reboot... |
| [06:03:29] | SlicerDicer-: | alright |
| [06:03:39] | SlicerDicer-: | Klink: well I am glad the script has helped a bit anyway |
| [06:03:42] | Klink: | it seems that the guys recording with DVHS are having to set to 480i and then set it to 1080i to record |
| [06:04:01] | Klink: | once recording has started |
| [06:04:17] | ** SlicerDicer- figures as much from the land of mushers ;-) ** | |
| [06:04:23] | Klink: | heh |
| [06:04:37] | SlicerDicer-: | thats the kinda manual labor you like up "in the great white north" |
| [06:04:41] | SlicerDicer-: | LOL |
| [06:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anyway Klink I dont know about that 5C on and off |
| [06:05:14] | SlicerDicer-: | Klink: it could be that the provider sends the cablebox a signal and it "resets" itself |
| [06:05:27] | SlicerDicer-: | have you run a plugreport after it stopped working and the p2p connection = 0 |
| [06:05:28] | SlicerDicer-: | ? |
| [06:06:16] | Flimzy: | Klink: I believe if you set the 6200 to 480i, it will output 480i even to an HDTV. Altho I haven't tested it with firewire, I know that's what it does over component |
| [06:06:33] | Flimzy: | I suspect the firewire stream is untouched by the output resolution settings on the 6200 |
| [06:06:39] | Flimzy: | I think it just dumps the source mpeg stream |
| [06:06:52] | sphing: | SlicerDicer: that p2p connections should be 1? |
| [06:07:09] | SlicerDicer-: | well thats what my script does ;-) |
| [06:07:13] | SlicerDicer-: | heh |
| [06:07:37] | sphing: | what i'm asking is... it nees to be 1 to record? |
| [06:07:45] | SlicerDicer-: | well it does not have to be in all cases |
| [06:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but about 80% of everybody who uses a dct6200 does |
| [06:08:12] | SlicerDicer-: | xris: is one of the few I have talked to that does not have to do that |
| [06:08:14] | Klink: | I will test some more...I just upgraded to the most recent atrpms |
| [06:08:21] | sphing: | hmm... the script said success... lets see |
| [06:08:22] | SlicerDicer-: | but then again maybe he is and being stealthy about it ;-) |
| [06:08:34] | xris: | does what? |
| [06:08:48] | SlicerDicer-: | have the firewire recording or watching livetv work at random |
| [06:08:52] | SlicerDicer-: | or does it work all the time |
| [06:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is your p2p connections = 1 or 0? |
| [06:09:09] | SlicerDicer-: | or do you use PITA bcast? |
| [06:09:25] | ** SlicerDicer- has never asked before heh ** | |
| [06:09:27] | xris: | works most of the time for me. but I don't watch livetv with myth, and don't record all that much. |
| [06:09:37] | SlicerDicer-: | most? |
| [06:09:42] | xris: | no clue what my settings are, and not about to poke at it when something is recording. |
| [06:09:48] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [06:09:52] | SlicerDicer-: | no worries xris |
| [06:09:52] | xris: | the cable box freaks out every month or two. |
| [06:09:59] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [06:10:11] | SlicerDicer-: | xris: its the microsoft menu I tell you! |
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| [06:10:20] | xris: | mythtv reports that the box doesn't respond to channel changes, so I have to poke it with the remote once and then it works. |
| [06:10:28] | sphing: | SlicerDicer: mine is on bcast... |
| [06:10:36] | xris: | seems to get stuck on a channel/mode that mythtv can't get out of. |
| [06:10:38] | sphing: | should it not be? |
| [06:10:42] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: go into mythtv-setup and set to p2p |
| [06:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris: strange I havent ever seen that myself |
| [06:11:10] | SlicerDicer-: | unless I manually input a incorrect number by mistake on livetv |
| [06:11:13] | xris: | could be the same issues you have with that script |
| [06:11:24] | sphing: | althought now I'm getting |
| [06:11:26] | xris: | and I'm just digging deeper into the mythtv logs |
| [06:11:33] | xris: | you don't since you have a workaround now. :) |
| [06:11:38] | SlicerDicer-: | xris: well you could always try it a mess of people are using it now :) and liking the results heh |
| [06:11:50] | xris: | I probably will eventually |
| [06:11:56] | sphing: | now the frontend is saying: |
| [06:11:56] | xris: | would rather get the fixes into myth itself, though |
| [06:11:56] | sphing: | #!/bin/bash |
| [06:11:57] | sphing: | plugctl -n 1 oPCR[0].channel=1 |
| [06:11:57] | sphing: | rm /root/foo.mpg |
| [06:11:57] | sphing: | DONE=no |
| [06:11:57] | sphing: | i="/root/foo.mpg" |
| [06:11:58] | sphing: | while [ "$DONE" = "no" ] |
| [06:11:59] | SlicerDicer-: | either that or it fried their computers and they cant complain |
| [06:12:00] | sphing: | do |
| [06:12:03] | sphing: | if [ -s $i ] |
| [06:12:04] | sphing: | then |
| [06:12:08] | sphing: | echo file size exists!!!! |
| [06:12:10] | sphing: | DONE=yes |
| [06:12:12] | sphing: | echo connection with firewire complete |
| [06:12:13] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: pastebin please |
| [06:12:14] | sphing: | break |
| [06:12:16] | sphing: | else |
| [06:12:18] | sphing: | # Sets the plug to deactive/active to jog it to life. This can sometimes require multiple. |
| [06:12:20] | sphing: | # Eventually it shall catch and will move onto next section below. |
| [06:12:23] | sphing: | plugctl -n 1 oPCR[0].n_p2p_connections=0 |
| [06:12:24] | sphing: | plugctl -n 1 oPCR[0].n_p2p_connections=1 |
| [06:12:26] | sphing: | echo test.mpg is empty or does not exist resetting to try again. |
| [06:12:28] | sphing: | test-mpeg2 -r 1 > /root/foo.mpg & sleep 3 ; kill $! |
| [06:12:31] | sphing: | fi |
| [06:12:32] | sphing: | done |
| [06:12:35] | SlicerDicer-: | wow spamtastic |
| [06:12:37] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [06:12:38] | sphing: | WOAH |
| [06:12:40] | sphing: | sorry... |
| [06:12:42] | sphing: | i mean to pastebin |
| [06:12:56] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry sphing I did it again ARGH |
| [06:13:08] | SlicerDicer-: | [23:12:14] sphing break |
| [06:13:10] | SlicerDicer-: | see that line |
| [06:13:17] | SlicerDicer-: | delete the line that says break |
| [06:13:32] | sphing: | ok |
| [06:13:50] | SlicerDicer-: | xris: I am actually planning on doing more with my script to make it run as a cron hourly and check if programs are recording via the DB |
| [06:13:59] | SlicerDicer-: | I just nave no idea how to do it yet ;-) |
| [06:14:45] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: I dont think the break will do to much harm but its totally not needed haha |
| [06:15:27] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: look at the xml interface to the backend. |
| [06:15:42] | SlicerDicer-: | ? |
| [06:16:06] | sphing: | i removed the break and it said it ran successfully, but I'm still getting... |
| [06:16:27] | SlicerDicer-: | brb |
| [06:16:37] | sphing: | http://pastebin.ca/175883 |
| [06:16:52] | sphing: | xris: are you comcast or millineum (sp) |
| [06:16:56] | xris: | comcast |
| [06:18:09] | SlicerDicer-: | back |
| [06:18:49] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: that means your not getting a signal from the firewire |
| [06:19:02] | SlicerDicer-: | did you go to mythtv-setup and set your firewire to p2p? |
| [06:19:07] | sphing: | yup just did |
| [06:19:11] | sphing: | and reran that script |
| [06:19:18] | sphing: | and it said fine... but still getting that same error |
| [06:19:24] | SlicerDicer-: | strange |
| [06:19:33] | SlicerDicer-: | thats a new one to me |
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| [06:20:53] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: your cablebox may be weird |
| [06:20:56] | Klink: | SlicerDicer: I've edited my firewire channels and removed anything that potentially is 5c'ed...I'll run with it for a while and see what happens... |
| [06:21:25] | SlicerDicer-: | sphing: reverse the p2p channel = 0 and 1 so that 0 is on bottom and 1 is on top |
| [06:21:38] | SlicerDicer-: | rerun the script and test it |
| [06:21:46] | ** SlicerDicer- has seen that with some box ** | |
| [06:21:57] | SlicerDicer-: | is yours are dct6200 sphing? |
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| [06:22:47] | sphing: | yup |
| [06:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
| [06:23:09] | sphing: | note, I dont have digital cable |
| [06:23:20] | sphing: | my landlord provides analog cable |
| [06:23:30] | sphing: | but i've gotten this to work without digical cable |
| [06:23:49] | SlicerDicer-: | I really dont know sphing play with it more |
| [06:24:05] | sphing: | of course |
| [06:24:08] | SlicerDicer-: | maybe comcast is updating your node and thats whats causing your cablebox to go crazy |
| [06:24:23] | SlicerDicer-: | they are known for pissing with a node for 2 weeks and totally hosing all recordings lol |
| [06:24:34] | SlicerDicer-: | at least for me :) |
| [06:24:35] | sphing: | o excellent |
| [06:24:42] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah well its not often but they do it |
| [06:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | at least thats all I can attribute my failures to |
| [06:25:20] | SlicerDicer-: | I just plug unplug power reverse blah blah to get things to record during that period and hope :) |
| [06:25:50] | SlicerDicer-: | well anyway I am going to go afk for a bit |
| [06:27:27] | sphing: | Slicer.. test-mpeg2 |
| [06:27:33] | sphing: | is giving a valid mpeg file |
| [06:27:41] | sphing: | alright we thanks for the help |
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| [06:30:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | xris: Ya still here? |
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| [06:37:47] | ShockValue: | anyone using the "intel HD audio" (chipset 945 i think?) to pass ac3/dts? supposedly it can do it by "reconfiguring the jack output", but there's only 1 |
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| [09:02:23] | robert83a1: | hello, go here latest mythtv, was working okay, so I switched with my nvidia card to the opengl driver in mythtv, now it wont start, get a blue screen and a lot of QGLContext::makeCurrent(): cannot make invalid context current, how do I set MythTV back to use software driver again instead of nvidia? |
| [09:03:39] | simon_c: | robert83a1, Did you build myth yourslef, or use an RPM ? |
| [09:03:46] | robert83a1: | rpm :) |
| [09:03:59] | robert83a1: | forgot to mention this is fedora core 5 |
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| [09:04:15] | robert83a1: | using some guidance from here http://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php , now I started tweaking stuff |
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| [09:04:48] | simon_c: | robert83a1, I *thought* the RPMs were built to work with the nvidia and nv drivers. |
| [09:05:07] | robert83a1: | simon_c : is there some config file somewhere that I could use to set it back ? |
| [09:05:12] | robert83a1: | tried to see rpm -ql mythtv |
| [09:05:18] | robert83a1: | but I only found some example config files |
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| [09:06:00] | simon_c: | robert83a1, your X driver is determind by your xorg.conf file, I know myth can use different abilities of different drivers, but the RPM versions tend to build all of them in. |
| [09:06:37] | Anduin: | robert83a1: There is a post on the mailing list about the right override you can pass in to get back to the Qt painter |
| [09:06:39] | simon_c: | robert83a1, So, I'm not sure where you changed the driver, and what you need to change now. . But if it's fedora based, I don't know cos I don't use fedora, and if it's myth based, it shouldn't make any difference. |
| [09:06:55] | degreseven: | can anyone recommend a remote i should buy? |
| [09:06:58] | robert83a1: | simon_c : I choose which driver to use for the theme where it said use gt or something I choose use OpenGL |
| [09:07:09] | robert83a1: | qt |
| [09:07:10] | robert83a1: | yeah |
| [09:07:11] | robert83a1: | thank |
| [09:07:38] | simon_c: | robert83a1, Anduin sounds like he knows more then me, do what he sais ;-) |
| [09:09:37] | robert83a1: | just tried mythfrontend -O UseOpenGLPainter=0 , but nothing |
| [09:09:50] | Anduin: | robert83a1: mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt |
| [09:10:10] | robert83a1: | oH! |
| [09:10:29] | robert83a1: | great!, thank you Anduin |
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| [09:14:30] | robert83a1: | the other thing, got here a slight thing with mythweather, I've configured it for Belgrade,Serbia, and I get the unable to retrieve your weather data within the time allowed, now I tried to go to settings to change stuff, but I cannot because every 10 seconds this window appears telling me that I can wait more or cancel, can I reset weather setup somehow ? I would try it with some other city |
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| [09:16:26] | Anduin: | robert83a1: Setup | Info Center Settings | Weather Settings |
| [09:16:39] | robert83a1: | yeah I went there Anduin |
| [09:16:52] | robert83a1: | and there to I get this window popping up cannot retrieve weather data for 20 secs |
| [09:17:03] | robert83a1: | then it says to ok wait cancel to not retrieve animated map |
| [09:17:12] | Anduin: | robert83a1: Ah, it can't even fetch the settings page... |
| [09:17:28] | robert83a1: | yeah, It seems I configured it with belgrade,serbia real bad :) |
| [09:19:06] | Anduin: | robert83a1: Yeah, it really doesn't like that. |
| [09:19:54] | robert83a1: | Anduin : guess the only wat to reconfigure it is, to disconect the ethernet cable, and do it like that, atleast Then it wont complain about not able to fetch weather data |
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| [09:26:03] | Anduin: | robert83a1: mythfrontend -O locale= |
| [09:26:10] | robert83a1: | ok |
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| [09:29:46] | robert83a1: | Anduin : hungary Szeged works , well It's close enough, 60 km up from here :) |
| [09:31:14] | robert83a1: | Anduin : ESC = escape from Myth Weather right ? ( I guess I'm blessed with problems ) |
| [09:31:24] | robert83a1: | oh...never mind, it just started to magicaly work :) |
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| [09:51:20] | Netslayer: | anyone know any ubuntu 0.20 sources? |
| [09:53:46] | Taskinen: | I compiled myself |
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| [10:04:55] | robert83a1: | anyone launched snes9x on mythtv ? (know a nice little page with some examples?) |
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| [10:06:36] | robert83a1: | found one sorry, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configur . . . me_Emulation |
| [10:13:33] | robert83a1: | anyone got past this erorr with snes9x X error failed request: XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode ? |
| [10:13:52] | robert83a1: | just googled, and it sasys something about removed DGA support from nVidia drivers, but no solution |
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| [10:26:01] | robert83a1: | oh, I've got a new version 1.5 seems to start :) |
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| [11:18:06] | asd26: | dudes i'm having issues with my remote |
| [11:18:16] | asd26: | my remote uses 5 for 5 |
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| [11:22:06] | asd26: | i'm confused |
| [11:22:25] | asd26: | key binds which is for the remote? |
| [11:27:01] | asd26: | i don't get this my .lircrc file is correct |
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| [12:09:59] | kaiforce: | freaking sony |
| [12:10:00] | kaiforce: | never again |
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| [12:26:01] | antiPosix: | Today is the day I lay down $$$ for a TV-Out video adapter that is well supported by X. Anyone have any suggestions before I buy a GeForce MX 4000 for $38 ? |
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| [12:38:44] | LabMonkey: | my 6800 (I think) has tv out |
| [12:39:16] | LabMonkey: | oh it's a 5750 |
| [12:39:19] | slaine_: | Most of the nVidia's do iirc |
| [12:39:27] | LabMonkey: | at any rate it's dual dvi |
| [12:39:30] | LabMonkey: | with svideo |
| [12:39:37] | LabMonkey: | good card |
| [12:39:52] | LabMonkey: | and wasn't too terribly expensive |
| [12:39:55] | slaine_: | antiPosix, you'd be better off going for a a 5000+ range card, the fx5200 for example |
| [12:40:09] | slaine_: | as it supports XvMC for accelerated decoding of MPEG2 |
| [12:40:14] | LabMonkey: | yeah |
| [12:40:16] | antiPosix: | the fx5200 is made but what brand? |
| [12:40:36] | LabMonkey: | my 5750 is a gigabyte |
| [12:40:43] | robert83a1: | mine is inno3d |
| [12:41:01] | slaine_: | antiPosix, it's an nVidia card, so choose whoever sells them at your local store, if you ain't gaming it makes little difference who made it |
| [12:41:06] | robert83a1: | the main difference is overclockability, and what you get , in that I mean + software |
| [12:41:31] | LabMonkey: | imo newegg is pretty good about having a decent selection |
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| [12:42:11] | asd26: | hail hows one work with ir dongle? for a remote? |
| [12:42:24] | slaine_: | I don't think newegg ships to Ireland, so I can't use it :( |
| [12:42:45] | antiPosix: | slaine_: do you own an fx5200 |
| [12:42:59] | slaine_: | Not in my mythtv box |
| [12:43:14] | slaine_: | there's one in my iMac G5 though :) |
| [12:43:46] | slaine_: | It's a good card, and recommended on the mythtv website/wiki iirc. |
| [12:43:46] | LabMonkey: | I still wish my tv had a usb interface where it could be made to accept power/volume/source/channel inputs from my mythbox's remote |
| [12:44:13] | slaine_: | LabMonkey, get an IR Blaster |
| [12:44:53] | asd26: | LabMonkey u know how to setup USB dongles to with with infared remotes? |
| [12:44:57] | LabMonkey: | slaine_: but my irman works just fine :( |
| [12:45:15] | asd26: | i just connected a irusb dongle and booted linux |
| [12:46:10] | slaine_: | asd26, there's plenty of documentation on the site |
| [12:47:01] | asd26: | irw only picks my other remote..lol |
| [12:47:33] | kaiforce: | i would get the 5200 over the mx 4000 |
| [12:47:43] | LabMonkey: | I've got a coolermaster cm media 250 with the VFD and IR module |
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| [12:48:11] | LabMonkey: | after some tweaking I've got the remote working well with linux and mythtv |
| [12:48:12] | kaiforce: | in fact, i have a PNY 5200 sitting out here :) |
| [12:48:23] | LabMonkey: | problem is I have to grab the other remote to turn the tv on :( |
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| [13:04:54] | mah_meh: | just setup mythweb from svn, but im getting database access denied. where is the db user/password stored for the backend? |
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| [13:05:54] | mah_meh: | found it |
| [13:05:56] | mah_meh: | :P |
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| [13:07:34] | antiPosix: | Video adapter with TV-Out versus a VGA-to-TV converter.... |
| [13:08:34] | slaine_: | antiPosix, may work well with the nVidia, assuming you are trying to do RGB/SCART from the VGA |
| [13:08:47] | ** antiPosix is so stumped ** | |
| [13:09:18] | slaine_: | TV-Out from a TV card will give you composite and S-Video. S-Video is marginally better than composite. |
| [13:09:29] | antiPosix: | slaine_: I appreciate your assistance, but I dont know Video tech/terminology |
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| [13:10:00] | antiPosix: | what is the single yellow video port called? |
| [13:10:02] | antiPosix: | RCA? |
| [13:10:08] | slaine_: | No offence, but you'd better learn some, MythTV is great and all, but it's not trivial |
| [13:10:15] | seth|laptop: | antiposix, I have tried both with my nvidia 6200 card. I have used the svideo, and a scan converter. My wife reports that the picture now (with the scan converter) no longer looks washed out. Also, my converter has a remote that allows you to adjust picture size, and color, and then save it. I prefer scan converter over svideo out. |
| [13:10:16] | slaine_: | That's the connector type |
| [13:10:53] | antiPosix: | seth|laptop: thanks.. what brand is your converter |
| [13:10:58] | slaine_: | That'll be composite, there's a 4? pin connector, probably also yellow, that'll be S-Video |
| [13:11:22] | slaine_: | Scan convertors are pricey |
| [13:11:28] | antiPosix: | I know S-Video, and then there is this new one...DVI I think? |
| [13:11:46] | slaine_: | Yeah, that's the Digital Video Interface |
| [13:11:51] | kaiforce: | DVI white rectangle with a bunch of pins |
| [13:12:00] | antiPosix: | one of my sets has DVI |
| [13:12:02] | kaiforce: | holes for pins... |
| [13:12:03] | slaine_: | Basically replaces your VGA port |
| [13:12:34] | slaine_: | antiPosic, If you are connecting to an LCD/Plasma TV, then they'll probably have DVI/VGA or HDMI |
| [13:12:40] | mah_meh: | is there a way to make the recordings filename include the show name ? |
| [13:12:49] | mah_meh: | rather than datetimeetc.mpg |
| [13:12:51] | slaine_: | HDMI is basically an extension to DVI that includes Audio |
| [13:13:19] | slaine_: | and HDCP for DRM enabled next gen dvd stuff |
| [13:13:28] | Merlin83b: | mah_meh: look in the "pretty" directory |
| [13:13:28] | seth|laptop: | antiposix ----> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Searc . . . p;CatId=1430 |
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| [13:13:36] | Merlin83b: | mah_meh: Or set up the script that does that :-) |
| [13:14:23] | antiPosix: | seth|laptop: wow! you cant beat that price |
| [13:14:37] | mah_meh: | any idea what its called merlin |
| [13:14:46] | mah_meh: | i dont have a pretty directory ") |
| [13:14:55] | slaine_: | Except, that's for connecting analog stuff to a VGA, not VGA to composite |
| [13:15:03] | mah_meh: | i just want my xbox to be able to mount the recordings directly from xbmc |
| [13:15:06] | slaine_: | antiPosix, What kind of TV are you looking at connecting to |
| [13:15:15] | seth|laptop: | antiposix, and it pus oout directly to RGB, (component video) and comes with all the cables. That makes hooking it up to my non HDTV CVI jacks, a sanp :-) |
| [13:15:19] | mah_meh: | since im not running the frontend on it i cant think of a better solution |
| [13:15:23] | seth|laptop: | sanp = snap |
| [13:15:26] | seth|laptop: | doh! |
| [13:15:47] | Merlin83b: | mah_meh: This would run on your backend. I can't remember what the script's called but it probably has "pretty" in the name. |
| [13:16:19] | mah_meh: | yah i get that merlin, i just wantde to give you the background of why i wanted to do it. itd be cool if xbmc could read the db |
| [13:16:44] | mah_meh: | maybe i should see if i can dual boot my xbox between xbmc and linux |
| [13:26:53] | seth|laptop: | antiposix, appologies, this is the one I have, the other one does not have component video ----> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Searc . . . &CatId=0 |
| [13:27:16] | robert83a1: | a question people, glxgears on fedora core5 with fx5200 1700fps that means 3D working okay? |
| [13:27:40] | seth|laptop: | yes |
| [13:27:51] | seth|laptop: | if it didn't it would be more thike 400 or 300 |
| [13:28:26] | robert83a1: | thank you seth :) it's good to because with my own installed drivers I got glx, whereis with a pre made rpm I didn't have. thank you |
| [13:29:45] | seth|laptop: | np |
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| [14:01:00] | seth|laptop: | Sept 19th: International Talk Like a Pirate Day: http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html |
| [14:01:04] | seth|laptop: | arrrgh!! |
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| [14:04:23] | halcyon: | sweet! err.. I mean .. ARRR! |
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| [14:11:45] | bagpuss_thecat: | yarrr! |
| [14:14:11] | kaiforce: | anyone know offhand if you can set a default region code in mythburn? |
| [14:14:40] | stuarta: | don't believe you can |
| [14:15:15] | kaiforce: | my POS sony dvd player rejected a disk i burned based on region |
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| [14:15:36] | stuarta: | !trout sony DRM |
| [14:15:36] | ** MythLogBot slaps sony with a DRM trout on behalf of stuarta... ** | |
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| [14:15:53] | kaiforce: | heh, thanks. |
| [14:16:53] | kaiforce: | last sony product i'll buy. I made the mistake of scoring a sony MP3 player in vegas, its a nice unit but sony's software sucks |
| [14:17:02] | stuarta: | i'd look at dvdauthor etc, see if they have an option to set it |
| [14:17:26] | kaiforce: | according to dvdinfo, the disk from mythburn doesn't have a region set |
| [14:18:17] | stuarta: | it uses standard linux tools to create the dvd, so you need to see if the tools can set what you need |
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| [14:21:23] | Kyler: | It looks like my recent upgrade to MythTV 0.20 has caused my jobs to stop running. I've got quite a pile in the queue and nothing is running (but recording works). Was there something I missed when I upgraded? |
| [14:21:53] | stuarta: | so they are queued, just not triggered? |
| [14:22:06] | Kyler: | stuarta: yup |
| [14:22:27] | stuarta: | verify your settings for when then jobs are allowed to run |
| [14:23:01] | Kyler: | I just went through that page to check the number of jobs. I'll look again... |
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| [14:24:53] | stuarta: | Kyler: if you still have no joy, run the backend with --verbose jobqueue |
| [14:26:14] | chair: | hello all, i have a problem |
| [14:26:19] | chair: | anyone care to listen? |
| [14:26:30] | Zider: | no ;) |
| [14:26:35] | Zider: | but go ahead :) |
| [14:26:44] | chair: | ok :) |
| [14:27:05] | chair: | mythtv isn't creating the recording files |
| [14:27:06] | antiPosix: | :) |
| [14:27:07] | Dibblah: | People asking about asking annoy me. So you're off to a flying startrt! |
| [14:27:27] | chair: | i think it started after i updated archlinux |
| [14:27:32] | ** stuarta ponders adjusting the topic, but nobody reads it anyway.... ** | |
| [14:27:46] | chair: | i'm still using 0.19 |
| [14:27:50] | chair: | btw |
| [14:28:10] | chair: | but live tv works and records fine |
| [14:28:18] | chair: | so i don't know what's going on |
| [14:28:57] | chair: | anyone have any ideas? |
| [14:29:04] | stuarta: | what do you mean by "live tv works and records fine"? you mean you can watch livetv okay... |
| [14:29:04] | Kyler: | stuarta: My current settings are for the job queue to both start and end at 23:59. Should that be different? |
| [14:29:11] | Dibblah: | Bah. Why won't Sky just activate the HD tiers on my sub card? |
| [14:29:34] | stuarta: | Kyler: i'd give it 00:00 – 23:59 |
| [14:29:58] | chair: | stuarta: yeah i can watch tv, and it's recorded |
| [14:30:14] | Dibblah: | chair: Do you have listings? |
| [14:30:17] | stuarta: | livetv isn't recorded in 0.19 |
| [14:30:40] | chair: | Dibblah: yep |
| [14:30:49] | GreyFoxx: | stuart...... umm.... wha ? |
| [14:30:53] | chair: | stuarta: sure it is :) |
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| [14:31:08] | GreyFoxx: | LiveTV has been seperate recordings and no more ring buffer since 0.19 :) |
| [14:31:09] | Dibblah: | stuarta: You're thinking 0.18... |
| [14:31:48] | ** stuarta needs a new memory.... ** | |
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| [14:31:54] | Isalyne: | hi, i am running mythtv 0.20 but i have got some problems with the program guide |
| [14:32:18] | Juski: | about region encoding & DIY DVDs.. can't be done unless you make a master & get a proper 'affiliated' pressing plant to do it |
| [14:32:20] | Dibblah: | chair: what does your backend log look like? |
| [14:33:06] | Isalyne: | card is well defined, video sources too and i have linked the capture card to an input video source – i have run mythfilldatabase and tv_grab downloaded all the programs i defined |
| [14:33:13] | chair: | Dibblah: normal, there's nothing in it about recording going wrong |
| [14:33:26] | Dibblah: | Anything about recording, scheduler, etc? |
| [14:33:48] | chair: | Dibblah: nothing at all :/ |
| [14:34:03] | Dibblah: | Try with -v schedule,record,channel |
| [14:34:09] | Isalyne: | but when i try to search a program, all programs appear to be broadcasted on the same channel |
| [14:34:19] | Isalyne: | and the program guide is desperatly empty |
| [14:35:03] | chair: | Dibblah: what do i add -v to? |
| [14:35:09] | chair: | mythbackend? |
| [14:35:14] | halcyon: | probably, chair |
| [14:36:25] | Merlin83b: | Okay, I do this every time. I did a make distclean before remaking my plugins, and now FE can't initialize any of them. Someone remind me what I forgot? |
| [14:36:39] | Dibblah: | make install |
| [14:36:44] | Merlin83b: | Heh, did that :-P |
| [14:36:54] | Dibblah: | On the main Myth. |
| [14:37:01] | Dibblah: | Before compiling the plugins. |
| [14:37:02] | Merlin83b: | make distclean; ./configure --blah; make; make install |
| [14:37:16] | Merlin83b: | Hmm, that could be it. Recompile plugins I guess :-) |
| [14:37:36] | Dibblah: | chair: yes. |
| [14:38:30] | Dibblah: | Isalyne: Do you have channel numbers defined for each of your channels? |
| [14:39:35] | Dibblah: | Is there a competition that I'm not aware of running for the most useless trac comment? |
| [14:40:08] | GreyFoxx: | Dibblah: Lately it seems like it :) |
| [14:40:38] | stuarta: | #2416 is pretty high up there. |
| [14:42:02] | Dibblah: | 2425 would get my vote. |
| [14:42:28] | stuarta: | "Great idea, the EITMUNGER" isn't good enough?? |
| [14:43:02] | stuarta: | i suppose i should claim 2425.... |
| [14:43:39] | Isalyne: | Dibblah, channel number for the channels imported from the adapter card where already defined ; channel number for the channels in the video source where empty and i filled them with the channel numbers from the card |
| [14:43:50] | Isalyne: | and run mythfilldatabse after |
| [14:44:08] | Isalyne: | *where:were |
| [14:44:15] | Dibblah: | Channel numbers for each channel, I mean. |
| [14:44:17] | Kyler: | stuarta: Thanks for the tip on the job queue times. That seems to have solved the problem. |
| [14:44:48] | chair: | ok i'm back |
| [14:44:49] | Dibblah: | ie "BBC 1" == 101 for me. |
| [14:45:16] | chair: | Dibblah: nothing was added to mythbackend.log |
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| [14:45:36] | Dibblah: | Busted, then :) |
| [14:46:06] | Isalyne: | Dibblah, my adapter card is Freebox. And channel numbers are defined. |
| [14:46:16] | chair: | it locks the tuner, but doesn't record anything, then adds the entry to the recording list |
| [14:46:29] | Dibblah: | chair: What input? |
| [14:46:45] | Dibblah: | And did you upgrade anything before it stopped working...? |
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| [14:46:52] | Dibblah: | Like maybe ivtv... |
| [14:47:14] | chair: | input? like as in DVB? |
| [14:47:44] | chair: | dibblah: i recently changed listings too, could that be a problem? |
| [14:47:48] | Dibblah: | Are you using DVB / ivtv / bt8x8... |
| [14:48:07] | chair: | ok, dvb |
| [14:48:26] | Dibblah: | Changed listings how? |
| [14:48:38] | chair: | from a different source |
| [14:48:45] | chair: | but it looks fine |
| [14:49:14] | chair: | it shouldn't cause thins kind of problem anyway, right? |
| [14:49:56] | Dibblah: | I have no idea. |
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| [14:50:20] | Dibblah: | Pastebin a full mythbackend -v channel,record,scheduler |
| [14:50:34] | chair: | maybe i should just update to 0.20 and see if it fixes itself |
| [14:50:45] | Dibblah: | Yeah, that's another option. |
| [14:50:52] | Dibblah: | Backup your database first. |
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| [14:51:23] | chair: | any idea when mythweb is going to be fixed? |
| [14:51:33] | |Torg|: | is it broken? |
| [14:51:50] | Dibblah: | Nope. |
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| [14:52:25] | chair: | yeah it's not included in mythplugins |
| [14:52:32] | Dibblah: | Yes, it is. |
| [14:52:40] | |Torg|: | my mythcoffee plugin wont install right anymore, now it only makes decaf |
| [14:53:08] | Dibblah: | my mythpirate plugin doesn't work right. Arrrr. |
| [14:53:46] | chair: | well, i've got some compiling to do |
| [14:53:55] | chair: | thanks dibblah |
| [14:54:01] | chair: | cya |
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| [14:54:19] | Dibblah: | That was a little wierd. |
| [14:54:21] | ** stuarta sighs ** | |
| [14:54:28] | |Torg|: | just a little? |
| [14:54:41] | stuarta: | he walked the plank? |
| [14:55:45] | Dibblah: | Anyone looked at DVB-S2 support yet? |
| [14:56:10] | stuarta: | basically the API isn't finished yet. |
| [14:56:10] | Dibblah: | Since there's now some code in a CVS for it out-of-kernel... |
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| [14:56:35] | Dibblah: | Manu's repository apparently has something. |
| [14:56:36] | stuarta: | if they provide an api, we'll code for it. |
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| [14:57:19] | stuarta: | yeah, but there's nothing official just yet. |
| [14:57:34] | stuarta: | that's his first attempt at an API |
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| [14:57:48] | Dibblah: | Guess Sky'll have fixed their camcrypt by the time the cards are supported. |
| [14:57:59] | stuarta: | they broke it? |
| [14:58:02] | Dibblah: | Errr... Ooops. Wrong kind of pirate. |
| [14:58:30] | stuarta: | blackbeard got to it? I understand.... |
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| [14:58:35] | |Torg|: | no no I want the mydecrypt module that I can plug in to decrypt ATSC channels :) |
| [14:58:39] | |Torg|: | that is the right prirate :) |
| [14:58:45] | s_g_robertson: | hello all |
| [14:58:50] | Juski: | when's mythchess out anyway? that's the question on everybody's lips here... |
| [14:59:02] | s_g_robertson: | anyone got any clues on this make error http://pastebin.ca/176261 something to do with ffmpeg? |
| [14:59:03] | stuarta: | |Torg|: we don't talk about that here in a *logged* channel |
| [14:59:29] | |Torg|: | I didnt way I would *DO* it, just that is how I would define pirate |
| [14:59:48] | stuarta: | :) |
| [14:59:56] | |Torg|: | do you really think I want to decryot ATSC just to see the FOOD channel? |
| [15:00:11] | stuarta: | there's always somebody.... |
| [15:00:13] | Dibblah: | Damn cookery pirates. |
| [15:00:16] | halcyon: | You'd be missing Rachael Ray! |
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| [15:01:30] | ** stuarta has double vision. 2 Juski's!!! ** | |
| [15:02:04] | stuarta: | s_g_robertson: was this from a clean build |
| [15:02:13] | |Torg|: | oh and did I menation they take a nice pretty HD chanel and mux it to multiple SD channels? The entire reason I got eh ATSC cards is so I didnt have to watch SD anymore |
| [15:02:14] | mythuser: | I just saw a message about me being banned... what the? |
| [15:02:42] | stuarta: | huh? |
| [15:03:00] | mythuser: | hang on... |
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| [15:03:38] | s_g_robertson: | stuarta: oops it might not have been. I did an svn update and re-ran configure should I always do a make clean or a make distclean in this situation? |
| [15:04:05] | stuarta: | svn up; make distclean; configure; make |
| [15:05:03] | s_g_robertson: | stuarta:thanks very much for that |
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| [15:06:06] | Juski2: | this is what I meant... "Cannot join to channel #mythtv-users (You are banned)" |
| [15:06:25] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o stuarta | |
| [15:07:03] | |Torg|: | *mythv*!*@* you mean that one? |
| [15:07:12] | |Torg|: | err mythtv |
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| [15:08:46] | Mode for #mythtv-users by stuarta!i=foobar@unaffiliated/stuarta : -o stuarta | |
| [15:08:50] | Juski: | phew |
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| [15:14:16] | stuarta: | Juski: dunno what that was about / what was going on.... |
| [15:15:12] | Juski: | stuarta: I dunno either. I mistakenly pressed the break key, couldn't resume my screen session & then weirdness happened |
| [15:15:37] | stuarta: | you weren't banned AFAICT |
| [15:15:53] | s_g_robertson: | stuarta:I realise it may be a more complicated, but does distclean get rid of everything created by the previous make? |
| [15:16:10] | Juski: | didn't think I was.. there was a ghost Juski logged on for a bit I think |
| [15:16:38] | Juski: | and the 'banned' bit prolly came from trying to log in when I was already logged in (or somefink) |
| [15:16:41] | Paladine: | anyone made a blaster? |
| [15:16:54] | |Torg|: | did you try to sign on and it told you your nick was already taken? |
| [15:16:55] | stuarta: | s_g_robertson: yes, that's why we use it |
| [15:17:39] | Juski: | |Torg|: didn't take that much notice TBH... never mind it's fixed whatever it was :) |
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| [15:18:42] | |Torg|: | you probably ran into the buffer timeouts, if you truncate a session the server has set timeouts for it (user connects are unusually long) leaving dead clients (what you woudl call ghosts) they eventualy timepout and clean themselves |
| [15:18:47] | s_g_robertson: | stuarta: I was just wondering if there was any other cleverness going on there as well |
| [15:19:04] | stuarta: | nope |
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| [15:21:05] | |Torg|: | does anyone have any tips on debugging EIT guides? Ether mine is set up wrong or there isnt anything to gather |
| [15:21:28] | stuarta: | |Torg|: over the air EIT or grabber? |
| [15:21:34] | |Torg|: | over the air |
| [15:21:54] | |Torg|: | I just get EITScanner: Now looking.... over and over |
| [15:21:56] | stuarta: | how did you setup your channels? scanner or channels.conf |
| [15:22:03] | |Torg|: | datadirect |
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| [15:22:21] | Merlin83b: | Dibblah: Good call on the compile order. Working fine now, thanks :-) One day I'll remember that myself. |
| [15:22:21] | stuarta: | datadirect != over the air eit |
| [15:22:43] | ** stuarta threatens Merlin83b with the trout. ** | |
| [15:22:46] | |Torg|: | datasirect = the chanels I want for OTA, and yes it contains my HDTV channels |
| [15:23:03] | |Torg|: | I have set up two chanenl linesups, DD which works, EIT which dosnt |
| [15:23:12] | |Torg|: | I wantd to see if there was any differnce between the two |
| [15:23:30] | |Torg|: | but what im thinking is my brodcasters simply dont brodcast EIT, but I cant see why they wouldnt |
| [15:23:44] | stuarta: | ahh. there may not be any useful info, or it's broadcast in a non standard way. |
| [15:23:51] | Merlin83b: | !trout Merlin83b memory |
| [15:23:51] | ** MythLogBot slaps Merlin83b with a memory trout on behalf of Merlin83b... ** | |
| [15:24:15] | |Torg|: | so I was wondering if there was anyway to debug it, like I dunno dump the data raw and see if its nothign but 00's or FF's |
| [15:24:33] | stuarta: | ATSC? |
| [15:24:36] | |Torg|: | yes |
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| [15:25:08] | ** stuarta see's |Torg| boldly going where no one has gone before ** | |
| [15:25:24] | |Torg|: | its a "I want to play with it" thing, not a "My myth is broken thing" so its really no biggie if I cant get EIT |
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| [15:25:46] | stuarta: | hey, i'd be keen to find out what's happening... |
| [15:26:04] | |Torg|: | it looks like its just seaching away never finding anything |
| [15:26:42] | |Torg|: | it causes no real harm, well other then filling my logs |
| [15:27:06] | Juski: | so much for our new super-duper gigabit network. servers are falling over like no tomorrow |
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| [15:27:30] | |Torg|: | what are they connected to Juski? |
| [15:27:32] | stuarta: | Juski: maybe cause everyone can get to them now? |
| [15:27:53] | |Torg|: | and what NICs are you using to connect? |
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| [15:28:18] | |Torg|: | and fiannly are you using jumbo frames? |
| [15:28:45] | ** stuarta hands Juski the "it's S.E.P!" card ** | |
| [15:29:12] | stuarta: | Somebody Else's Problem :) |
| [15:30:04] | |Torg|: | no its the admin, no its the databse, no its the netowrk, no its the platform, no its the amin (repeat ad nauseum) |
| [15:30:57] | stuarta: | anyway, |Torg| you'll need to poke around with dvbsnoop and see what you can find. |
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| [15:32:07] | Juski: | it's ok.. all attached to PoS MS servers.. DHCP servers keep falling over |
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| [15:35:57] | Cardoe: | Anyone ever use a pcHDTV to connect to cable in the US? Specifically Cox Cable. |
| [15:43:24] | |Torg|: | is EIT on its own PID or is it mixed into the audio or video? |
| [15:43:37] | alieas: | Cardoe: I use pcHDTV on COX Cable |
| [15:43:37] | hjohnson: | what I love is how windows says "Unknown error, talk to your system administrator" or something to that effect. |
| [15:43:54] | hjohnson: | and you go "But I *AM* the admin, wtf am I supposed to do?" |
| [15:44:23] | halcyon: | at that point, they should really add "If you ARE the admin, here's where to send us lots of monies" |
| [15:44:29] | stuarta: | |Torg|: pid 0x12 in dvb |
| [15:44:29] | Cardoe: | alieas: cool. How's it work? |
| [15:44:35] | Merlin83b: | Maigcally understand all errors, hjohnson. |
| [15:44:37] | Cardoe: | alieas: does it pull down listings on it's own? |
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| [15:45:16] | alieas: | Cardoe: Excellent for 6 channels. There are more digital channels but I just have the main 6 in my list right now... they work awesome |
| [15:45:20] | |Torg|: | stuarta: Thats what I thought, AFAIK there inst any PID 0x12 on any stream but ill keep looking |
| [15:45:29] | alieas: | Cardoe: I download the listings from labs.zap2it.com |
| [15:46:30] | Cardoe: | alieas: cool. |
| [15:46:39] | stuarta: | |Torg|: it's a different PID on ATSC |
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| [15:46:57] | joshno: | yo ho mateys! today be international talk like a pirate day. |
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| [15:47:24] | brad_mssw: | alieas: Cardoe mentioned you have a pchdtv card using a Cox digital signal |
| [15:47:40] | |Torg|: | stuarta: all I can see are video and audio pids, there arnt any ones that differ. Ill keep looking anyway |
| [15:47:56] | brad_mssw: | alieas: do you know if they're broadcasting the simulcast channels (e.g. SciFi) that the pchdtv can pick up ? |
| [15:48:50] | alieas: | brad: no SciFi channel |
| [15:49:00] | alieas: | brad: just the unencrypted channels |
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| [15:49:43] | stuarta: | |Torg|: the MGT will tell you where to find the EIT & ETT tables |
| [15:50:06] | brad_mssw: | alieas: really? SciFi is encrypted ? I wouldn't have thought that since it's part of standard cable |
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| [15:50:20] | alieas: | brad_mssw: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-451563.html <--- has a complete list of the unencrypted Cox channels I can get as of 5/2006 |
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| [15:52:17] | brad_mssw: | alieas: hmm, would have figured scifi would be available |
| [15:52:59] | brad_mssw: | alieas: how are you handling channel listings? Zap2It doesn't map the 81–1, 81–2, style frequencies, at least in my area ... did you manually have to modify your channel table in mysql ? |
| [15:53:14] | |Torg|: | stuarta: the more I look the more I think there simply isnt anything, how can I read the MGT? |
| [15:54:12] | Juski: | |Torg|: dvbsnoop maybe? |
| [15:54:52] | alieas: | brad_mssw: I have a profile on zap2it.com called COX-QAM, which has the 6 HDTV channels checked off. It works no problem what so ever, and the channels end up being 705 (channel 5), 710 (channel 10), etc. work perfect |
| [15:54:54] | |Torg|: | Juski: Ive tried that it just dumps PID/PAT |
| [15:55:07] | tam: | OK this is sorta OT. I am using ubuntu with my freecom usb dvb-t card and i'm having problems, when i try to scan channels it says 'main:1884: FATAL@ failed to open /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0: 16 device or resource busy. would this indicate the card is half working and how could i debug this information so i can fault find or resolve my problem and get my card working |
| [15:55:12] | tam: | any help is appreciated :) |
| [15:55:36] | stuarta: | |Torg|: try the magic ATSC pid of 0x1ffb |
| [15:56:00] | brad_mssw: | alieas: oh, that's interesting, so it must be mapping based off the station name rather than frequency |
| [15:56:01] | |Torg|: | no tam sometjing else is reading the card (like myth, dvb, tzap, whatver) |
| [15:56:23] | alieas: | brad: actually now that you mention it.... it doesn't work perfect |
| [15:56:43] | tam: | i have the 3 of them installed |
| [15:56:51] | brad_mssw: | alieas: which pchdtv card do you have by the way? the 5500 ? |
| [15:57:01] | tam: | myth grumbles that it can't get to the backend server even though its a standalone machine |
| [15:57:07] | tam: | (i am new to myth tv |
| [15:57:07] | tam: | ) |
| [15:58:31] | alieas: | brad: First I create the 3 frequencies inside mythtv-setup. Then I "retrieve channel lineup" in mythtv-setup, then I have "mysql -u root mythconverg", and manually change the "serviceid" and "mplexid" to make everything work properly. |
| [15:58:35] | alieas: | brad: I have the 5500 |
| [15:58:53] | tam: | sorry the above was to |Torg| ^^^ |
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| [15:59:27] | brad_mssw: | alieas: great, thanks ... I'll grab one of those and give it a shot :) |
| [15:59:51] | alieas: | brad: the quality of the QAM is great, especially football the cardinals game was awesome |
| [16:00:02] | |Torg|: | tam: go check the permissions on the devices making sure the user mythtv can read them |
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| [16:00:45] | |Torg|: | Juski, stuarta: There still is no EPG data in the headders, closest I get are V-Chip ratings |
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| [16:01:24] | stuarta: | do you have a STB on the same feed? |
| [16:02:08] | |Torg|: | nope |
| [16:02:34] | tam: | |Torg|: i'm sure it isn't mythbackend using it as its also stating its busy when running it |
| [16:02:51] | stuarta: | hmmm. i'd be surprised if there was *no* eit data. it's probably just somewhere non standard |
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| [16:03:24] | |Torg|: | tam: the error means myththbackend could not open it. Its either somethiung else is using it, or its nor within the permissions of mythtv |
| [16:03:41] | |Torg|: | stuarta: me too, thats why I cant figure out why I cant see any |
| [16:04:47] | stuarta: | you basically have to sit down with 1 eye on the specs and start pulling the feed apart with dvbsnoop, to find out what they are doing |
| [16:06:05] | |Torg|: | ill be back later, I gota go to the bank, thanks for you help |
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| [16:07:06] | carstenc: | Hi all |
| [16:07:22] | Juski: | almost beer o'clock here (whoop!) |
| [16:07:56] | carstenc: | I am trying to run mythtv untial nearly 1 week now on Suse 10.1 |
| [16:08:08] | carstenc: | with dvb-s |
| [16:08:15] | stuarta: | mmmm beer |
| [16:08:45] | carstenc: | with 0.19 I had it nearly ready but EPG was missing, now with 0.20 I cannot even get channels configured |
| [16:09:40] | carstenc: | I always get the following error when trying to scan Astra sattelite with 12551500 Vertical 22000000 in Full scan |
| [16:09:56] | carstenc: | Error: 2006-09–19 18:10:36.690 DiSEqCDevTree, Error: No root device tree node! |
| [16:09:57] | carstenc: | 2006-09–19 18:10:36.690 DVBChan(0) Error: Tune(): Failed to setup DiSEqC devices |
| [16:10:12] | carstenc: | but I have not touched DiSEqC at all |
| [16:10:13] | carstenc: | :((( |
| [16:10:22] | carstenc: | can anybody help here, please? |
| [16:10:37] | carstenc: | kaffeine works fine with EPG and channels |
| [16:11:02] | stuarta: | the diseq configuration changed completely for 0.20 |
| [16:11:16] | carstenc: | but I did not configure it |
| [16:11:40] | stuarta: | you have diseq devices? |
| [16:11:55] | carstenc: | no |
| [16:12:10] | carstenc: | and under Cards there is the entry "Unconnected" |
| [16:12:31] | stuarta: | shouldn't be unconnected |
| [16:13:07] | carstenc: | what needs to be there? |
| [16:13:56] | stuarta: | you at least need to tell it about your LNB |
| [16:14:12] | carstenc: | ah ok |
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| [16:14:58] | carstenc: | yessss |
| [16:15:14] | carstenc: | thank you stuarta |
| [16:15:22] | carstenc: | what a trival thing |
| [16:15:41] | stuarta: | just like forgetting to plug the aerial in :) |
| [16:15:51] | carstenc: | lets see how far I can go now :) |
| [16:16:32] | carstenc: | does EPG work ok now in 0.20 ` |
| [16:16:33] | Juski: | well at least you'd already tested your hardware carstenc :) |
| [16:16:33] | carstenc: | ? |
| [16:16:49] | Puh: | we're having trouble with the epg data in finland |
| [16:16:57] | carstenc: | yes, now the channels fly in |
| [16:17:06] | Puh: | it seems that the backend setup doesn't scan the channels correctly or something |
| [16:17:24] | carstenc: | Puh: I had that with 0.19 and hope that it will be better now |
| [16:17:30] | Puh: | but if i use the setup from 0.19 and let myth upgrade to 0.20 schema it works |
| [16:17:44] | Puh: | i had to update some networkids to the db by hand |
| [16:17:52] | Puh: | but now it seems to get data |
| [16:17:55] | carstenc: | hm |
| [16:18:06] | stuarta: | Puh: it there a ticket for this? dvb-t, dvb-c or dvb-s? |
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| [16:18:18] | carstenc: | looking forward to what is coming here now |
| [16:18:18] | Puh: | some networkids were NULL and setting them to 0 worked |
| [16:18:41] | Puh: | stuarta, dvb-c on ttv/elisa network, there's been discussion on both user and dev lists |
| [16:18:48] | Puh: | stuarta, don't know about a ticket though |
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| [16:18:57] | Puh: | stuarta, just a sec i'll give you a pointer |
| [16:19:17] | carstenc: | is anybody using Suse10.1 packages from packman website ? |
| [16:19:21] | stuarta: | ah, yes. following that one. the last i heard someone found that the broadcaster wasn't sending data on 2 of 3 muxes |
| [16:19:39] | Puh: | well the data is there since 0.19 worked nice |
| [16:19:41] | carstenc: | I had some problems with installing them because libmythtv had wrong sha1 sum IIRC |
| [16:19:58] | stuarta: | anyway, back later. heading home now. |
| [16:20:24] | carstenc: | thanx again stuarta :) |
| [16:20:52] | Taskinen: | Puh: I am also on ttv.fi dvb-c network, and I upgraded from 0.19-fixes to 0.20 and everything else worked fine but mythbackend+mysqld causes ~1.50 loads while updating eit_cache table (in 0.19-fixes they caused practically zero loads) |
| [16:21:05] | Puh: | heres the dev list ref http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/224531 and on users: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/223374 |
| [16:21:46] | Puh: | Taskinen, i have no load problems but the channel scanning is totally hosed, the dev list description matches exactly to my symptoms |
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| [16:22:14] | Puh: | i'd love to set up the radio channels but for now i'll settle for working tv :) |
| [16:23:57] | Puh: | i'm willing to do more digging on this but now before the weekend though |
| [16:24:14] | Puh: | not before |
| [16:24:17] | Puh: | i gotta go now -> |
| [16:24:53] | Puh: | Taskinen, oh you could also try changing the mysql table type |
| [16:25:14] | Taskinen: | Puh: changing what to what? |
| [16:25:48] | Puh: | i found some advice on one of the mailing lists that the default mysql table type is very slow on some operations |
| [16:26:11] | Puh: | and there was an example of alter table command that changed the type to something swifter |
| [16:26:25] | Puh: | but i can't recall it exactly |
| [16:26:29] | Puh: | check the list archives |
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| [16:26:43] | Taskinen: | Puh: thanks! i'll do that |
| [16:27:17] | krisp_: | i cant seem to lock on to any hd channels |
| [16:27:35] | krisp_: | even with them manually added with working frequencies, multiplex ids and service ids |
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| [16:29:45] | Puh: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/112405 |
| [16:32:45] | Thomas22: | I am unable to stream a saved recording from mythweb to my window xp computer. Im running 0.20 and have mplayer and vlc installed on windows. Does anyone know of a link that I could use? |
| [16:35:23] | Merlin83b: | Have you tried mythstreamtv, Thomas22? |
| [16:35:31] | Merlin83b: | (I think that's the one, anyway) |
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| [16:45:25] | Thomas22: | Merlin83b, I've read up on it. it appears to be very nice, but makeing changes to mythtv php code Im not confortable with. I was really hoping for a settings change to either mythtv which I missed in the wiki and or a change to mplayer/xine/vlc on windows. |
| [16:46:06] | Thomas22: | similiar to the mode I needed to make to mplayer under windows to handle streaming from my tivo |
| [16:46:47] | Merlin83b: | Not something I've played with at all so no help from me I'm afraid. |
| [16:47:40] | Thomas22: | Merlin83b, thanks anyway. I'll just keep puttering with it. Right now Im unsing smb, but really, I feel there must be a better way. |
| [16:48:34] | Merlin83b: | mythstreamtv. Backup your PHP and give it a go! At worst case, restore the backup and you're back to how it was :-) |
| [16:49:45] | Thomas22: | Merlin83b, yea. I'll try that in a bit. I have a few more google links to track down and read. |
| [16:52:48] | krisp_: | anyone watching qam hdtv stations thru cable |
| [16:52:54] | seth|laptop: | ok, so I am using knoppmyth r5c7 with mythtv 0.19fixes, if I download the tarballs from mythtv.org, would the upgrade be "transparent" as they say there, or will I have issues? The kernel sources are installed by default, and I have no problems building other software from source. Just a query. Maybe someone out there has done this already? |
| [16:53:41] | Thomas22: | one more question. While playing with mythtv, I've noticed, on occasion, in a few messages a file called syntax.txt. What does this file do? |
| [16:59:07] | Dibblah: | Interesting. cfq allows per-process scheduling. Wonder if this'll let us nice mysql down properly :) |
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| [17:06:12] | Klink: | can someone explain the difference between an nvidia FX5200 and a 6600gt when playing back via xvmc...I've read that the 5200 has video overlay support which is superior. |
| [17:08:26] | alieas: | KLink: I would like to know about that too... I have a 6600GT and am thinking about trying out XvMC to see the improvements |
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| [17:10:16] | Klink: | alieas: I found this article – http://www.linuxis.us/linux/media/howto/linux-htpc/video.html that explains it....I seem to be experiencing tearing when playing back a hidef mpeg stream...I have xvmc enabled...I wonder if this is because of the lack of overlay support |
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| [17:15:09] | alieas: | KLink: I was just reading something about tearing last night |
| [17:15:22] | alieas: | KLink: Has to do with the --enable-opengl-vsync I think |
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| [17:22:21] | Klink: | Alieas: Well that seems to have made a huge improvement. I'm going to test this for a while before I do something drastic like swapping my old 5200 |
| [17:23:11] | |Torg|: | stuarta: You stll her, I found teh EIT guide its not on the standard PID tho. Specs say EIT-0 is 0x1FD0, I see it on 0x1DD0 (EIT-1,2 and 3 are the same offset) |
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| [17:24:44] | Blammo: | Klink: I found, at least in my experience, speed of ram on card, DDR/2/3 to make the most difference on tearing with HD content. I'm using an old 5700ultra because it came with DDR3, as opposed to say a 6200, etc, with slower ram. |
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| [17:28:34] | Klink: | interestingly, I no longer am getting any prebuffering errors or audio skips....any recommendations on a deinterlacing filter? |
| [17:28:42] | sivik: | how do i run mythtv or tell if it works correctly |
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| [17:30:13] | kormoc: | sivik, you don't. myth is a myth! |
| [17:30:24] | kormoc: | or you can just run mythfrontend and see if it plays any tv |
| [17:30:44] | Paladine: | hey J-e-f-f-A my parts arrived today, unfortunately my missus has the dexterity of a dead cat so when I called on her assistance to solder the connection whilst I held everything in place, she managed to solder 5 pins together. So I have no had to order a new rs232 socket which should be here by the end of the week |
| [17:30:48] | sivik: | kormoc, then how do i get my tv tuner card to work or tell if it works correctly |
| [17:31:03] | kormoc: | sivik, run mythtv-setup, like the documentation says? |
| [17:31:20] | sivik: | i'm downloading all this stuff from apt-get not the myth website |
| [17:31:36] | kormoc: | sivik, so? the documentation on the website still holds true... |
| [17:31:49] | kormoc: | myth will not hold your hand, apt-get won't set it all up for you |
| [17:31:54] | Klink: | How can you tell if myth is running suid root? |
| [17:32:25] | kormoc: | ls -l /path/to/myth/binary and see if the suid bit is set? |
| [17:32:28] | sivik: | i don't see anything that helps me install it on the doumintation page |
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| [17:32:44] | kormoc: | sivik, ooh, I donno, perhaps under the section titled installing myth? |
| [17:33:07] | kormoc: | sivik, given the entire page is titled "Installing and using mythtv" |
| [17:33:14] | sivik: | yes, i just found that |
| [17:34:03] | Klink: | kormoc: ok...I get this -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 1279652 Sep 15 04:56 /usr/bin/mythfrontend, but I also see this when playing back a recording .... Realtime priority would require SUID as root. |
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| [17:34:33] | Blammo: | btw, anyone know which RPM bundle contains mythcommflag and mythtranscode? mythtv-backend alone does not.. |
| [17:35:27] | |Torg|: | Blammo set it up for yum repositories and go browse them. I use deb ones but yum should provide you the same features |
| [17:35:42] | kormoc: | Klink, well, realtime priority might not work with your distri just as suid root |
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| [17:36:12] | Klink: | Kormoc: OK....how much of a benefit do you get? |
| [17:36:17] | |Torg|: | Blammo: try http://www.pvrweb.com/bbs/index.php?showtopic=4982 |
| [17:36:39] | ** tam gets further with mythtv! :) ** | |
| [17:37:12] | tam: | got it all setup and running including channels, only thing is, it crashes my system after about 2 seconds of tv (audio only) |
| [17:38:00] | |Torg|: | tam: what crashes? |
| [17:38:16] | tam: | the machine |
| [17:38:23] | |Torg|: | as in reboot? |
| [17:38:24] | tam: | just freezes |
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| [17:38:33] | tam: | and i have to manually reboot it |
| [17:38:53] | |Torg|: | you have hardware/firmware/driver issues then |
| [17:38:57] | |Torg|: | not myth |
| [17:38:58] | kormoc: | Klink, depends on the machine and setup, usually not too much tho |
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| [17:39:12] | tam: | |Torg|: tv works perfectly under mplayer |
| [17:39:41] | tam: | as i thought the same as you to begin with |
| [17:41:44] | |Torg|: | if myth is crashing your box it is putting your hardware in an unsuposted or unstable configuration |
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| [17:41:57] | |Torg|: | its posible you have misdefined a card or something in myth |
| [17:42:07] | |Torg|: | but myth itslef runs in userspace |
| [17:42:49] | |Torg|: | you coudl be doing things like telling your driver to output AC3 when in fact it can not |
| [17:42:52] | tam: | nah, its the only card i could pick out |
| [17:42:56] | |Torg|: | its depends on your hardware and motherboard |
| [17:43:01] | tam: | :( |
| [17:43:07] | |Torg|: | if the system itslef locks up that is usualy interrupt problems |
| [17:43:10] | tam: | i'l mess around with it. i've probably done something wrong |
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| [17:43:17] | kormoc: | now, not that this is likely at all (I actually agree with |Torg| that it is likely hardware setup), but given mythfrontend now supports opengl as the painter, that alone can hardlock a box |
| [17:43:50] | stuarta: | |Torg|: that's good to know. is the data on the correct tableid on that pid? |
| [17:44:06] | sivik: | how do i get past "You must have the Lame MP3 encoding library installed to compile Myth." |
| [17:44:13] | tam: | don't forgot i hear about 3 seconds of audio before it crashes (which i just done again) |
| [17:44:17] | |Torg|: | stuarta: http://www.crwww.com/CRWeb/PDF/SignStream_ATS . . . id%208187%22 |
| [17:44:24] | |Torg|: | at least thats where I got the info |
| [17:44:59] | |Torg|: | dvbtraffic lists 1dd0, 1dd1 1ee0 and 1ee1 as pids |
| [17:45:14] | |Torg|: | when I dump them I see what looks like guide data |
| [17:45:27] | |Torg|: | so that all I can go on at the moment |
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| [17:45:51] | sivik: | nvm |
| [17:47:45] | kormoc: | sivik, install lame? |
| [17:47:59] | sivik: | kormx: i had to install the libs seperatly |
| [17:48:10] | sivik: | the ./configure worked, and now i'm doing make |
| [17:49:00] | sivik: | and then i have to figure out what to do |
| [17:49:09] | |Torg|: | stuarta: what file has the pid configs for the EIT grabber? |
| [17:50:15] | tam: | correction guys. myth doesn't crash the box. sincerely apologise for that mistake |
| [17:50:26] | tam: | but it does tie up the screen to a point i cant see anything |
| [17:50:51] | stuarta: | |Torg|: have a look at libs/libmythtv/*signalmonitor* & libs/libmythtv/mpeg/*streamdata* |
| [17:50:57] | |Torg|: | tam: then follow what kormoc said and check your opengl |
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| [17:51:20] | stuarta: | you will probably need to add a call to AddListeningPID for the correct PID.... |
| [17:52:04] | kormoc: | if you have the opengl painter enabled |
| [17:52:15] | kormoc: | also check out your xv libs, and xvmc libs if you are using them |
| [17:52:16] | ** tam should probably install the nvidia drivers then :( ** | |
| [18:00:40] | Paladine: | do I need to shutdown mythbackend and mythfrontend before make installing plugins? |
| [18:03:10] | kormoc: | if you want to see them, at least the frontend, aye |
| [18:07:14] | |Torg|: | stuarta: Ok I figured out the issue, its that im still using .19 and havnt changed to .20 |
| [18:07:54] | ** kormoc raises an eyebrow. ** | |
| [18:08:01] | Paladine: | copying file 49 of 1768 |
| [18:08:03] | Paladine: | yawn |
| [18:08:49] | kormoc: | Copying file 10712 of 68000 |
| [18:08:53] | ** kormoc really yawns ** | |
| [18:09:01] | Paladine: | I should install fibre for the home LAN |
| [18:09:17] | halcyon: | mmm fibre |
| [18:09:21] | |Torg|: | just do GE, its plenty fast enough |
| [18:09:37] | kormoc: | |Torg|, this is with GE, and it's taking many many hours :P |
| [18:09:56] | Paladine: | doesn't help having a 5400 rpm drive in my laptop where the music is coming from and a 10Mbit nic in the laptop |
| [18:10:09] | |Torg|: | and cat6 works just fine, what the hell are you transfering that takes so long? |
| [18:10:47] | Paladine: | 68 000 songs by the looks of it |
| [18:11:01] | kormoc: | |Torg|, around 600 gigs of isos for our kickstart server at work |
| [18:11:03] | antiPosix: | Paladine: is it truly a 10Mbit nic or it is a 802.11b wifi card |
| [18:11:14] | Paladine: | 10Mbit NIC |
| [18:11:24] | Paladine: | I also have a wifi card but I don't have my AP setup |
| [18:12:09] | antiPosix: | Paladine: USB1.1 NIC? or PCMCIA |
| [18:12:18] | antiPosix: | or USB2 |
| [18:12:27] | antiPosix: | or integrated... |
| [18:12:31] | Paladine: | integrated |
| [18:12:34] | antiPosix: | the possibilites are endless :) |
| [18:12:43] | opello: | lol |
| [18:14:03] | Paladine: | myth-dev have a sense of humour |
| [18:14:05] | Paladine: | paladine@main:~$ metadata.o: You don't seem to have any tracks. That's ok with me if it's ok with you. |
| [18:14:31] | antiPosix: | nice |
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| [18:15:31] | Paladine: | once I finish setting up mythmusic am gonna have a look at mythgallery |
| [18:15:36] | Paladine: | anyone using mythgallery? |
| [18:15:50] | antiPosix: | I think I have made up my mind today to purchase a GeForce FX5200 for $40 for TV output. |
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| [18:16:08] | Paladine: | thats expensive for an fx5200 |
| [18:16:20] | Klink: | Anyone have any experience with the MCE remote? the newer one? |
| [18:17:16] | kormoc: | mce-usb2? |
| [18:17:27] | Klink: | Kormoc: yes, that's the one |
| [18:17:27] | antiPosix: | uh oh, how come the nvidia page doesnt have proprietary drivers for i386 Linux |
| [18:17:29] | tam: | |Torg|: it's working, thanks for the help. another thing to note was that i had to get the nvidia driver installed before it would work |
| [18:17:34] | tam: | kormoc: thanks to you too |
| [18:17:35] | kormoc: | Klink, I own one, love it to death |
| [18:17:39] | antiPosix: | every other assortment accept i386 |
| [18:17:42] | Paladine: | anti, it does |
| [18:17:42] | kormoc: | tam, you're welcome |
| [18:17:53] | krisp_: | anyone watching qam hdtv stations thru cable? |
| [18:17:57] | antiPosix: | http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html |
| [18:18:02] | antiPosix: | am I missing something on this page? |
| [18:18:05] | Paladine: | I am using nvidia proprietry drivers |
| [18:18:14] | kormoc: | antiPosix, IA32 == i368 |
| [18:18:32] | kormoc: | IA32 == i386 == x86 |
| [18:18:39] | Paladine: | they even have legacy drivers for geforce3 et al |
| [18:18:59] | antiPosix: | IA32 is x86? |
| [18:19:02] | kormoc: | yes |
| [18:19:03] | Paladine: | yes |
| [18:19:04] | Klink: | Kormoc: I just installed it a couple of days ago...I got the remote keyboard as well..at times it is unresponsive or I get double entry...If I try the keyboard it works fine |
| [18:19:20] | kormoc: | Klink, did you use the config file from lirc's website? |
| [18:19:22] | fryfrog: | krisp_: i've been putting off setting it up |
| [18:19:24] | antiPosix: | my bad, sorry :( |
| [18:19:26] | sivik: | ok, i ./configure and then make with the mythtv source, how do i get mythfrontend to regonize as a command |
| [18:19:28] | fryfrog: | krisp_: you? |
| [18:19:37] | kormoc: | sivik, make install |
| [18:19:37] | krisp_: | i'd like to be heh |
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| [18:19:48] | Klink: | Kormoc...and the little red light seems to stay on a lot...I scored the config file from the mythtv wiki |
| [18:19:50] | fryfrog: | sivik: try install guides, prolly "make install" but... any reason you aren't using packages for your distro? |
| [18:19:50] | krisp_: | i cant get myth to tune the stations, even though i can tune them witn dvbtools and watch with mplayer |
| [18:20:03] | kormoc: | Klink, I had to use the lirc one to get mine working right |
| [18:20:05] | krisp_: | ive tried going through the manual steps to add the frequencies and channels too |
| [18:20:16] | sivik: | fryfrog: when i did it for my distro, it never would run, i didn't have a mythfrontend-setup thingy |
| [18:20:18] | fryfrog: | krisp_: bah, dvb scan finds like 300 channels when i run it. I am going to try the scan built into myth, have you tried that? |
| [18:20:26] | krisp_: | it doesn't find any |
| [18:20:27] | nandy_: | yay my lirc finally works |
| [18:20:29] | fryfrog: | sivik: what distro? |
| [18:20:33] | krisp_: | the myth scan |
| [18:20:33] | sivik: | fryfrog, ubuntu |
| [18:20:40] | fryfrog: | sivik: and i think it is "mythtv-setup" or "mythsetup" |
| [18:20:43] | krisp_: | there's a script on the wiki for the dvb scan that will narrow it down |
| [18:20:44] | fryfrog: | or myth-setup |
| [18:20:47] | sivik: | fryfrog, ok |
| [18:20:52] | fryfrog: | you can usually type "myth" then press the tab key |
| [18:20:54] | sivik: | fryfrog, i'm just installing form the souce |
| [18:21:02] | fryfrog: | to see all the possible results, tab completion rules |
| [18:21:04] | sivik: | fryfrog, yeah, it wouldn't return anything |
| [18:21:05] | krisp_: | i ran thato vernight and it picked the 8 or so working stations and eliminated the 160 encrypted ones |
| [18:21:15] | sivik: | yeah, i know how to do that, just the command hasn't appeared |
| [18:21:19] | fryfrog: | krisp_: oh, really? |
| [18:21:28] | fryfrog: | krisp_: do you have a url, that'd be awsome |
| [18:21:33] | krisp_: | sec |
| [18:21:36] | Paladine: | sivik did you sudo make install |
| [18:21:44] | fryfrog: | god, i hope it doesn't go from 300 stations -> 8 :( |
| [18:21:52] | krisp_: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Adding_D . . . SA/Canada%29 |
| [18:21:53] | krisp_: | and |
| [18:21:55] | Klink: | kormoc: where did you get the config file from? |
| [18:21:56] | sivik: | Paladine, i'm working on that currently |
| [18:22:00] | fryfrog: | i *really* hope that TNTHD is unencrypted, but i'm not gonna hold my breath |
| [18:22:03] | krisp_: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB_search |
| [18:22:25] | krisp_: | only my ota stations are unencrypted |
| [18:22:30] | krisp_: | and some music video station |
| [18:22:47] | Paladine: | I would be suprised and impressed if you find any hd channels not encrypted |
| [18:22:48] | alieas: | fryfrog: yeah, wouldn't hold your breath. :) |
| [18:22:53] | krisp_: | though i cant watch them in myth anyway |
| [18:23:04] | krisp_: | ive gone through the documented process of adding them manually w/o any luck |
| [18:23:14] | krisp_: | and they aren't detected automatically |
| [18:23:36] | fryfrog: | Paladine: all the OTA HD channels are required to be carried, unencrypted. So i'll at least get them |
| [18:23:49] | kormoc: | Klink, lirc.org, and it's the "Philips Media Center Edition remote control" file |
| [18:23:50] | Paladine: | OTA? |
| [18:23:50] | alieas: | krisp: I had to run dvbtraffic against every frequency to get the PID's before I could enter them into the database (your talking about QAM right?) |
| [18:23:54] | fryfrog: | Last time I tried, I also got and was able to tune a *ton* of the "retarded" stations |
| [18:23:59] | fryfrog: | Over The Air |
| [18:24:03] | krisp_: | yea alieas |
| [18:24:06] | antiPosix: | will the NVidia Geforce MX4000 work with mythtv? |
| [18:24:09] | krisp_: | i got the pids using scan -c |
| [18:24:12] | antiPosix: | with TV-Out support? |
| [18:24:14] | fryfrog: | i gave up after finding like 5 or 6 shopping channels :) |
| [18:24:22] | krisp_: | would output like [0013] <other stuff> |
| [18:24:23] | Paladine: | we don't have any OTA HD channels in the UK afaik |
| [18:24:28] | krisp_: | ive tried entering them in both hex and decimal |
| [18:24:37] | fryfrog: | Paladine: ah |
| [18:24:50] | Paladine: | we barely have subscriber HD channels |
| [18:24:51] | antiPosix: | wasnt there a hardware database for mythtv somewhere? like peteshardware.pvr.com or something |
| [18:24:53] | krisp_: | and i have the frequencies in dvb_multiplex or whatever it is |
| [18:24:56] | Paladine: | very new in the UK |
| [18:25:01] | fryfrog: | krisp_: my dvb scan actually ened up creating like 10 [00xx] entries for each channel :( |
| [18:25:02] | stuarta: | Paladine: only on crystal palace dvb-t or dvb-s |
| [18:25:13] | krisp_: | fry: the scripts on that page will fix it |
| [18:25:16] | kormoc: | Klink, http://kormoc.homelinux.org/lircd.conf |
| [18:25:19] | kormoc: | Klink, that's the one I use |
| [18:25:26] | krisp_: | you need to run dvbscan, save the output to a file, run the first script against it which will strip dupes |
| [18:25:35] | krisp_: | and then run the long script which will test mencoder against the channels |
| [18:25:47] | kormoc: | Klink, and I'm using lirc version 0.8.0 |
| [18:25:53] | krisp_: | and it will give you a directory full of mpeg2 videos so you can see what the stations are |
| [18:25:59] | krisp_: | on the ones that it finds a valid stream in |
| [18:26:15] | krisp_: | it will take like 4 or 5 hours to run though with 300 stations to check |
| [18:26:20] | alieas: | I spent about 4 hours getting the correct frequencies and PID's and service id's just so I could find someone had already posted a proper channels.conf on avsforums |
| [18:26:32] | krisp_: | that sucks lol |
| [18:26:51] | krisp_: | i have a working channels.conf for my provider now that works fine in mplayer i just cant get it working with myth |
| [18:27:05] | alieas: | krisp: I actually spent about a week thinking that I couldn't get QAM so I was quite excstatic when I got my first home shopping channel :) |
| [18:27:07] | Klink: | Kormoc: I'm using 0.8.1, I will give it a try, thanks. |
| [18:27:24] | krisp_: | nice |
| [18:27:32] | sivik: | dang, this make install is taking forever |
| [18:27:37] | krisp_: | i knew i could get qam cause i had the crappy dvico drivers installed in windows |
| [18:27:48] | krisp_: | but atleast their program scans for it properly |
| [18:27:54] | krisp_: | i beyondtv |
| [18:27:57] | krisp_: | rather |
| [18:28:02] | krisp_: | i've been running beyondtv for about a year |
| [18:28:09] | alieas: | krisp: if you have the channels.conf your almost all the way there, the link you posted is the same one I used and it worked for me |
| [18:28:13] | krisp_: | but i really wanted qam support so i tried to switch over to myth |
| [18:28:36] | krisp_: | it's dual boot now so it's back in windows to grab shows i watch every day and i work on it at night |
| [18:28:52] | krisp_: | alieas: did the myth scan find any channels? |
| [18:28:52] | Paladine: | lets see how easily I can mess up mythmusic :) |
| [18:29:00] | krisp_: | the built in scanner |
| [18:29:07] | sivik: | is mythmusic for tuner cards that have radio on them? |
| [18:29:18] | alieas: | krisp: I manually entered the frequcies in mythtv-setup (531000000, 567000000, 563000000). They are mplexid 1, 2, and 3 in mythconverg |
| [18:29:41] | alieas: | krisp: the scan was pretty much useless for me, even on .20 I tried and found it not to be good (for me at least) |
| [18:29:50] | krisp_: | ya im running .20 |
| [18:29:55] | alieas: | krisp: I would start with a clean connection and manually enter your 3 frequencies |
| [18:30:01] | Juski: | sivik: nope. mythmusic is for ogg, mp3 etc.. |
| [18:30:05] | sivik: | oh ok |
| [18:30:07] | krisp_: | how did you manually enter frequencies into the setup? |
| [18:30:07] | alieas: | krisp: then download the data guide and run mythfilldatabase |
| [18:30:25] | krisp_: | i put them in the database as 2 3 and 4 |
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| [18:30:30] | alieas: | krisp: then follow that guide for assigning the proper mplexid, serviceid and frequncies for the QAM channels |
| [18:30:34] | Juski: | sivik: there was (is?) an unofficial plugin called MythFM for radio recording |
| [18:30:41] | sivik: | how do i tell if my drivers for my tuner are installed correctly |
| [18:30:43] | krisp_: | and then got the guide database for the 7 channels, added it to the databse with mythfilldatabase |
| [18:30:44] | alieas: | krisp: in the channel editor go to "transport editor" |
| [18:31:05] | krisp_: | then went into the channels table and modified the multiplex and the serviceid |
| [18:31:21] | krisp_: | ill have to try again later |
| [18:31:34] | krisp_: | i know the card works cause i can add it as an analog device |
| [18:31:38] | alieas: | krisp: one other bug was that in the transport editor I would define the 3 frequencies as QAM_256 but for some reason the 3rd one always stored in the database as VSB_8 so I had to manually change that too |
| [18:31:55] | krisp_: | ok |
| [18:32:04] | krisp_: | ill add them to the transport editor and see what happens later |
| [18:32:08] | alieas: | krisp: while in mysql "select * from channel;", and "select * from dtv_multiplex;" will show you the tables and give you a lot more information to go off |
| [18:32:14] | Juski: | sivik: what kind of tuner card? for bttv (v4l analogue) there's tvtime & xawtv. For pvr tuners you can use mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [18:32:26] | sivik: | hauppauge |
| [18:32:50] | Juski: | sivik: hauppauge WHAT? |
| [18:32:55] | krisp_: | ya i did my edits through phpmyadmin for ease of use |
| [18:32:59] | sivik: | i think its a 250 |
| [18:33:15] | alieas: | krisp: keep trying you'll get it |
| [18:33:20] | Juski: | sivik: you need to visit the ivtvdriver.org page.. they cover testing there I think |
| [18:33:21] | antiPosix: | am I the only one satisfied with my bttv ATI TV Wonder (VE) :) |
| [18:33:43] | sivik: | Juski: thats what i was trying to install earlier and i could never get the 3 .bin files i needed to move to the correctly location |
| [18:33:46] | Juski: | antiPosix: I tried software encoding once, and that was enough to satisfy me that it sucks |
| [18:33:59] | Juski: | sivik: you need to keep cracking on with that |
| [18:34:01] | krisp_: | sivik the bin files are in a tarball on the sit |
| [18:34:02] | krisp_: | e |
| [18:34:06] | antiPosix: | Juski: due to the CPU burden? |
| [18:34:16] | Paladine: | sweet mythmusic plugin was a sinch to setup :) |
| [18:34:17] | Juski: | antiPosix: no. due to picture quality sucking |
| [18:34:21] | sivik: | krisp_, ok |
| [18:34:31] | krisp_: | have to put them into /lib/firmware or /etc/hotplug |
| [18:34:34] | krisp_: | or both |
| [18:34:35] | antiPosix: | Juski: oh right, that hasnt gotten to me yet |
| [18:34:40] | krisp_: | then reboot for good measure |
| [18:34:53] | sivik: | krisp_, i know, but they aren't there when i unzip |
| [18:35:09] | krisp_: | http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/firmware/firmware.tar.gz |
| [18:35:31] | Paladine: | I can see me setting up a dedicated mythbackend machine and a bunch of mythfrontend machines in our next house |
| [18:35:56] | Juski: | sivik: so don't use gunzip. use tar xvzf <filename.tar.gz> instead |
| [18:36:07] | sivik: | Juski: yes i know, i don't ever gunzip |
| [18:36:19] | sivik: | Juski, i always use tar xvfz for .gz or xvfj .bz2 |
| [18:36:36] | krisp_: | personally im partial to zxvf or jxvf |
| [18:36:50] | krisp_: | just a preference thing i guess |
| [18:37:02] | Paladine: | no more tv purchases for this house, from now on buy large LCD monitors and myth it all the way :) |
| [18:37:22] | sivik: | krisp_, same difference |
| [18:37:27] | krisp_: | pick up the 32 oe 37" vizio lcd tvs at sams club |
| [18:37:31] | krisp_: | they are like 699 and 999 |
| [18:37:36] | krisp_: | 1366x768 |
| [18:37:39] | krisp_: | vga input |
| [18:37:47] | Paladine: | krisp we don't have sams here |
| [18:37:49] | hatredx: | 32 would work great for my bedrom |
| [18:37:50] | Paladine: | I am in the UK |
| [18:37:50] | hatredx: | woot |
| [18:37:54] | krisp_: | ah |
| [18:37:54] | ** hatredx gets in the car ** | |
| [18:38:04] | krisp_: | can probably order them online :) |
| [18:38:10] | krisp_: | ya i have a 32 |
| [18:38:17] | krisp_: | it could have better contrast ratio |
| [18:38:18] | Paladine: | also no need to get lcdtv :) |
| [18:38:20] | krisp_: | but can't beat the price |
| [18:38:29] | Paladine: | why have an extra un-needed tuner |
| [18:38:48] | Paladine: | all ur tuners are in STBs in this house |
| [18:38:50] | Paladine: | our |
| [18:38:50] | Juski: | TVs are cheaper than monitors anyway |
| [18:38:57] | krisp_: | for the price, ya |
| [18:39:03] | Paladine: | yeah but lcd tvs have crappy resolution |
| [18:39:06] | krisp_: | a 32" lcd monitor is like $3000 |
| [18:39:22] | sivik: | Juski, the .bin files i need are not in the firmware |
| [18:39:46] | krisp_: | going to need to follow the directions for extracting them from the windows drivers |
| [18:39:48] | Juski: | sivik they should be. I extracted em just the other day |
| [18:39:50] | Klink: | Kormoc: doesn't seem to make a difference...maybe my remote is bad. |
| [18:39:59] | krisp_: | if its not in the firmware tarball |
| [18:40:11] | Paladine: | I would probably go with dell 30" LCDs |
| [18:40:13] | krisp_: | but i'd be willing to bet that it is |
| [18:40:18] | Paladine: | they are about $1600 each |
| [18:40:21] | krisp_: | because i just set up my pvr150 with them yesterday |
| [18:40:28] | Juski: | http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/firmware/firmware.tar.gz |
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| [18:40:33] | krisp_: | ya but $1600 is a 52" lcdtv |
| [18:40:34] | krisp_: | :) |
| [18:40:46] | Paladine: | but again, terrible resolution |
| [18:40:54] | Paladine: | I want the screens to be used for PC use as well as tv |
| [18:40:54] | Juski: | yeah but $1600 == £1600 UK price |
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| [18:41:13] | Paladine: | juski, the dell 30" LCD are 1k UK |
| [18:41:15] | krisp_: | 1366x768 is pretty decent |
| [18:41:20] | Juski: | anyway we don't yet have FREE non-DRM HDTV in the UK |
| [18:41:30] | krisp_: | can get a 1080p 42" fro about 1600 also |
| [18:41:38] | Paladine: | krisp, I run 3200x1200 on my desktop |
| [18:41:41] | Paladine: | I hate low resolutions |
| [18:42:02] | krisp_: | must be nice watching 320x480 sdtv at 3200x1200 |
| [18:42:11] | Juski: | Paladine: you hate MS, you hate Sony, you hate Apple... you is full of hate man |
| [18:42:18] | Paladine: | I am watching 720x576 actually |
| [18:42:21] | Juski: | life's too short |
| [18:42:21] | Paladine: | standard PAL resolution |
| [18:42:54] | Paladine: | and I am watching it at 720x576 as well |
| [18:43:00] | Paladine: | I don't run myth in full screen |
| [18:43:19] | krisp_: | my htpc is an appliance in the living rom |
| [18:43:21] | krisp_: | room |
| [18:44:48] | Paladine: | I been watching to switch the house from tv to media centers for some time now to try and encourage my missus to use the internet |
| [18:44:54] | Paladine: | she can handle a tv remote |
| [18:45:01] | Paladine: | she has no idea how to use a cmputer though |
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| [18:45:35] | Paladine: | hmm now to setup mythgallery |
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| [18:54:21] | Paladine: | shame I can't force mythgallery to sort all my pictures for me too hehehe |
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| [18:56:58] | Paladine: | I need to make me some imagemagick magic |
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| [19:05:05] | Klink: | Kormoc: I repogrammed my Harmony Remote with the MCE codes and it's working much better...perhaps the MCE is toasted. |
| [19:07:06] | ** Juski is making techno musak again ** | |
| [19:07:31] | halcyon: | techno... musak? :) |
| [19:07:41] | Juski: | techno-ish |
| [19:07:47] | Juski: | without a midi keyboard either |
| [19:08:11] | Juski: | rule 1 about Evolution midi keyboards.. don't play them while drunk.. the keys fall orf |
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| [19:08:55] | enigma: | Hello Im new the MythTV and I have a question about getting it setup. |
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| [19:09:16] | Juski: | question one: where are the documents so I may go and read them?? |
| [19:09:35] | enigma: | I have very little experience with Linux, and I tend to get frustrated when I try Linux. How hard would it be for someone with little to no experience doing coding / command line stuff to get a MythTV rig running? |
| [19:09:56] | krisp_: | probably fairly difficult |
| [19:10:02] | halcyon: | enigma: depends on your luck :D |
| [19:10:22] | krisp_: | though that knoppix-based myth thing looks easy |
| [19:11:02] | enigma: | I could try that first and see how it goes |
| [19:11:07] | stuarta: | Juski: you only need a drum machine :) |
| [19:13:52] | Juski: | stuarta: I have a demo version of Reason :) |
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| [19:18:31] | seth|laptop: | knoppmyth is a piece of cake, 20 minutes to a working dvr |
| [19:18:37] | ** seth|laptop what I use ** | |
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| [19:44:57] | godless: | hi I can't seem to switch to some channels, actually most of my channels :) ivtv driver and mythtv from the marillat debian repo |
| [19:46:26] | Anduin: | godless: It won't let you? |
| [19:47:39] | godless: | I try to enter the nr (say 11) and it stays on the same channel, but when I enter 7 it changes as expected |
| [19:49:01] | godless: | I manually entered the channels in the mythtv-setup, and I think it's correctly since 2 of them work ... but the others they don't want to go |
| [19:53:46] | godless: | I'm stumped on the problem, no dmesg output nor verbose output from mythfrontend that makes me wise |
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| [19:57:20] | Anduin: | godless: When you type a number and it doesn't change it usually means the channel doesn't exist. |
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| [20:05:22] | godless: | anduin : hmm shoudn't it then just give me static ? |
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| [20:06:05] | godless: | there is also no output saying that the channel doesn't exist or some such, it just pauzes for a sec and then continues showing the same channel |
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| [20:07:17] | godless: | is there a way to manually tune a channel in the watch tv mode |
| [20:07:31] | barry253: | type the channel number, no? |
| [20:07:38] | barry253: | is mythtv.org down? |
| [20:08:47] | xris: | godless: can't tune to a channel that's not in the database, since the frequency wouldn't be in the database, either. |
| [20:09:42] | godless: | xris: hmm is there a way to check the database contents ? |
| [20:11:20] | godless: | or how mythtv does the frequencies |
| [20:17:13] | Anduin: | godless: know any SQL? or have some fancy GUI MySQL thing? |
| [20:17:54] | godless: | anduin : afraid not :( |
| [20:19:49] | godless: | Anduin : I could tell you a working channel 7 (495.25, 24) using the 24 part in mythtv to configure it, all other channels except 503.25 (25) don't work |
| [20:20:39] | Anduin: | godless: There is the channel editor in mythtv-setup |
| [20:20:57] | godless: | anduin : that's the one I used |
| [20:22:19] | Anduin: | godless: and the channels are in there (unfortunately it doesn't appear to show the freqid)? |
| [20:22:57] | godless: | hmm |
| [20:23:38] | Paladine: | quick question about mythgallery |
| [20:23:40] | godless: | Anduin, I should actually make a few dummy channels to do some more testing |
| [20:23:44] | godless: | brb |
| [20:24:08] | Paladine: | is it possible to display the slideshow without the colours from the mythfrontend appearing at the sides and tops of the images? |
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| [20:24:46] | Paladine: | I'd porefer the broders to be black |
| [20:24:50] | Paladine: | borders |
| [20:27:29] | Paladine: | ahh using opengl transitions seems to do the trick |
| [20:28:08] | Anduin: | Paladine: Or change the type of background from theme to black |
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| [20:28:39] | Paladine: | sok opengl transitions works great and saves me altering my theme |
| [20:29:01] | Paladine: | mythgallery is awesome I can have a slideshow of our son's baby pics on my desktop all day :) |
| [20:29:45] | Anduin: | Paladine: it doesn't change your theme, just the background while in the show loop |
| [20:29:52] | Paladine: | ah right |
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| [20:30:19] | Paladine: | missus is gonna love this |
| [20:30:25] | Paladine: | nowIonly have about 1700 images to go |
| [20:32:41] | Paladine: | now to do some more imagemagick magick to add the DateTime as a caption on all the images |
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| [20:42:52] | xris: | !seen DrNickRiviera |
| [20:42:53] | MythLogBot: | DrNickRiviera was last seen 28 days 21 hours 53 minutes 59 seconds ago |
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| [20:44:57] | simcop2387: | !seen Everybody |
| [20:44:57] | MythLogBot: | Everybody has not been seen here |
| [20:45:44] | kormoc: | !seen my brain |
| [20:45:45] | MythLogBot: | my brain has not been seen here |
| [20:46:04] | Paladine: | mythgallery is gonna get me so much sex |
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| [20:46:23] | Paladine: | missus been nagging me to sort out the baby pics for months |
| [20:46:34] | simcop2387: | Paladine: can mythgallery rename/move them now? |
| [20:46:53] | Paladine: | simcop2387, I think so, but I am doing all that with imagemagick |
| [20:46:58] | simcop2387: | ah |
| [20:47:16] | Paladine: | renaming them all based on EXIF:DateTime |
| [20:47:28] | simcop2387: | nice |
| [20:47:54] | Paladine: | for i in *JPG; do mv $i "`identify -format "%[EXIF:DateTime]" $i`"jpg ;done |
| [20:50:19] | Juski: | a music bed is being born :) |
| [20:52:18] | godless: | after some more delving into the problem it seems I can only tune to channels in the 500mhz range |
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| [21:04:47] | simcop2387: | godless: thats weird |
| [21:07:06] | stuarta: | godless: dvb-s or cable? |
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| [21:17:19] | godless: | cable, pvr-350 |
| [21:17:34] | godless: | indeed weird, I'm stumped |
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| [21:21:39] | hjohnson: | hmm.. it's a shame that the PVR-500 doesn't ship with the remote. |
| [21:22:43] | RaYmAn-Bx: | iirc it doesn't even support a remote. |
| [21:23:06] | hjohnson: | no it doesn't. |
| [21:23:26] | hjohnson: | but then, the tuner would be sitting in a back-end somewhere, so it's no big loss. |
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| [21:23:47] | kormoc: | http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr500mcekit.html |
| [21:23:55] | kormoc: | pvr 500 + remote right from Hauppauge |
| [21:23:56] | RaYmAn-Bx: | unless you have a combined be/fe like me :) But I'm quite happy with my somewhat bulky ati remotewonder |
| [21:25:46] | hjohnson: | RaYmAn-Bx: my back end will be a dual-core athlon 64 living in my basement. :P |
| [21:25:55] | hjohnson: | the front-end will hopefully be some stupidly light-weight box |
| [21:26:07] | RaYmAn-Bx: | no problem then! |
| [21:26:18] | RaYmAn-Bx: | you can be happy it doesn't come with a useless remote then :) |
| [21:26:28] | hjohnson: | yep |
| [21:26:56] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I lack a basement..in fact I only have a single room..so seperate be/fe would be rather silly =P |
| [21:27:12] | hjohnson: | the only thing that ticks me off about my current motherboard is that it put the rs232 port on a header rather than an exposed plug, and the only place where the provided conenctor can reach is one of the PCI slots |
| [21:28:05] | RaYmAn-Bx: | can't you rip the pci-slot header thingy apart and extend the cable so it can fit somewhere nice on the front of the case? |
| [21:28:19] | hjohnson: | I could.. |
| [21:28:39] | hjohnson: | or I could just nsake the wire for the CM-11a into the case and be done with the backplate |
| [21:28:57] | hjohnson: | alas, I don't think anything in my boneyard has a longer ribon cable. |
| [21:29:19] | hjohnson: | it's amazing how cool this thing stays though. |
| [21:29:40] | hjohnson: | RaYmAn-Bx: of course, I could also change out the 1mb S3 trio i'm using as a video card for something tha tplugs into one of the (unused) PCI-E slots. :P |
| [21:36:33] | ravv: | Anyone know of a good DVB-T card that has CI-slot an dual tuners? |
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| [21:38:42] | convergence: | hello |
| [21:39:48] | convergence: | I was wondering if anyone had a low latency tuner suitable for game console play |
| [21:40:01] | kormoc: | Sure, any bttv card will work for console play |
| [21:40:06] | kormoc: | but that's not really myth related |
| [21:40:50] | hjohnson: | kormoc: ahh, the joy of vga overlay |
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| [21:42:13] | convergence: | kormoc: sweet! Sorry it's a little off topic, but I just had to verify that cards were available with latency low enough to support fast paced gameplay |
| [21:44:08] | hjohnson: | I dunno if they're that low latency |
| [21:45:32] | kormoc: | I know they're well under a sec, I never had a problem with mine, but ymmv |
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| [21:48:41] | convergence: | so ymmv is higher latency? |
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| [21:59:45] | promacuser: | can someone offer me tips to see why my mythmovie is stuttering? i'll explain more |
| [22:02:05] | promacuser: | the mythtv box is a 1.8Ghz Pentium chip, i think. the movies are stored on a samba share on mac os x connected to a wired port in a linksys wireless/wired router. |
| [22:02:40] | promacuser: | video tends to stutter anywhere from every few seconds to maybe once a second |
| [22:03:09] | stuarta: | check the timesync between the machines. using ntp is good |
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| [22:04:56] | |Torg|: | anyone have tips on how to get myth to compile with Forte? |
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| [22:07:27] | promacuser: | stuarta: how does that work exactly? |
| [22:07:42] | stuarta: | ntp? |
| [22:07:48] | promacuser: | yes |
| [22:08:02] | |Torg|: | by sending out datagrams to computers synched up to accurate timesources |
| [22:08:14] | stuarta: | that'll do... |
| [22:08:18] | |Torg|: | the farther you are from the accurate timesource the higher its priority gets |
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| [22:08:30] | hjohnson: | but ntp wouldn't affect a samba share, unless myth is doing something real dumb |
| [22:08:40] | promacuser: | ok. |
| [22:08:50] | stuarta: | well it affects NFS shares, and it's a simple thing to try... |
| [22:09:00] | promacuser: | let me clarify: how do i try it? |
| [22:09:27] | hjohnson: | stuarta: even then, not really.. I've done quite happy nfs mounts across machines with vastly different clocks. |
| [22:09:44] | |Torg|: | try ntp? |
| [22:09:55] | promacuser: | correct |
| [22:09:55] | stuarta: | hjohnson: yeah, it's a bit weird... |
| [22:10:12] | |Torg|: | well yoru mac box proobly already has it, as would any standard unix or unix like distro |
| [22:10:12] | promacuser: | or even, is there a better way to set it up. i mean rather than using samba? |
| [22:10:24] | |Torg|: | try looking for ntpq annd ntpd |
| [22:10:35] | promacuser: | i seem to recall that samba can be really slow in OSX |
| [22:10:37] | |Torg|: | you proobly just have to turn it on and maybe give it a level 2 timesource |
| [22:10:49] | hjohnson: | promacuser: that too, though the serving is just samba. |
| [22:11:23] | promacuser: | so, is there a different network protocol i can use between mythtv and my mac? |
| [22:11:39] | |Torg|: | stuarta: have you ever comepiled, well distcc'd to a Forte compile on Sun? |
| [22:11:44] | hjohnson: | samba is probalby your best bet. |
| [22:12:10] | stuarta: | |Torg|: no. is that the evolution of the old Sun compiler suite? |
| [22:12:11] | |Torg|: | no there are soffernt versions of smb protocal, of which widoze magled the hell out of. You are running into protocol mismatch probbly |
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| [22:12:32] | promacuser: | hmmm, well, is there a way for me to figure that out? |
| [22:12:41] | |Torg|: | stuarta: yes, im trying to see if I can "borrow" our twin E25Ks in the lab over the VPN link :) |
| [22:13:21] | stuarta: | |Torg|: generally the sun compilers object files don't play well with gcc object files |
| [22:13:25] | |Torg|: | that or at least use my two Ultra2's adn my sunblade2000 |
| [22:13:47] | |Torg|: | the latter I can put gcc on, the former well its bad enough ill put distcc on them as it is |
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| [22:14:26] | stuarta: | aren't they all ultra sparc 64 architecture tho? |
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| [22:16:59] | promacuser: | i'm a little confused. do i have to run NTP on each computer and check the statistics? |
| [22:17:26] | |Torg|: | yes they are all ultraparcs, the u2s are sparc3 as well |
| [22:17:51] | |Torg|: | yes you have to run ntpD on each computer, let it go for a while and not do a dman thing expect make sure it stays running |
| [22:18:12] | promacuser: | does ntpd have any visual output? |
| [22:18:21] | |Torg|: | ntpq :) |
| [22:18:26] | promacuser: | right |
| [22:18:42] | promacuser: | so it's running and shows me a promt. do i give it a command? |
| [22:18:50] | |Torg|: | im sure someone whore some stupid gui frontend for it, but its meant to be ran and forgotten |
| [22:19:00] | promacuser: | ah i see |
| [22:19:02] | |Torg|: | no you give it a config file |
| [22:19:58] | promacuser: | hmmm. is this likely to actually help me? |
| [22:20:17] | |Torg|: | if you DONT run it it is likly to hurt you, so yes |
| [22:20:55] | promacuser: | ok, so i'm runningg ntpd on each computer, i think |
| [22:21:52] | promacuser: | hmm, it looks like the mythbox is using a local server or something |
| [22:21:54] | |Torg|: | type "ntpq" (without the qutes obviously) then type "peers", then "quit" |
| [22:22:18] | promacuser: | this is what i get from the box |
| [22:22:19] | promacuser: | *LOCAL(0) LOCAL(0) 13 l 29 64 377 0.000 0.000 0.004 |
| [22:22:23] | |Torg|: | yes that would be default, gop find ntp.con likly in /etc |
| [22:22:31] | |Torg|: | see that 13? |
| [22:22:35] | promacuser: | yes |
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| [22:22:47] | |Torg|: | that is bad, very very very bad |
| [22:22:54] | promacuser: | what is it? it's marked st |
| [22:22:56] | |Torg|: | no im sorry its not even that good |
| [22:23:05] | promacuser: | what does it mean? |
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| [22:23:17] | |Torg|: | its how far off it is from reliable, 13 is most unrliable |
| [22:23:22] | promacuser: | haha |
| [22:23:22] | |Torg|: | 1 would be an atomic clock |
| [22:23:32] | promacuser: | is there any way to fix that? |
| [22:23:38] | |Torg|: | 2 would be a clock synced to a 1 (you should use these) that would make your box a 3 |
| [22:23:55] | promacuser: | ah, yes, the mac is listed as a 2 |
| [22:24:00] | |Torg|: | go find that ntp.conf file, add "server x.x.x.x" (of course dont use x.x.x.x) to it |
| [22:24:19] | |Torg|: | then your mac has someting already synched |
| [22:24:28] | |Torg|: | instead of x.x.x.x put in the macs ip address |
| [22:24:30] | promacuser: | yes |
| [22:24:34] | promacuser: | ok |
| [22:24:38] | |Torg|: | you dont plan on shutting down that mac do you? |
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| [22:25:02] | promacuser: | i don't really ever do it |
| [22:25:12] | |Torg|: | ok you can also use most ISP's rotuers |
| [22:25:17] | promacuser: | ok |
| [22:25:24] | promacuser: | where do i put the server part? |
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| [22:25:30] | |Torg|: | all you need do is shut down ntpd and start asking them for time with ntpdate |
| [22:25:50] | |Torg|: | a a tracerotue to somewhere, say google, then start at hop 2 and keep going untill you find a candidate |
| [22:26:03] | |Torg|: | its also customary to tell your isp your using there routers, I have not known one to care tho |
| [22:26:36] | |Torg|: | put in 2 or 3 just in case one goes down |
| [22:26:44] | |Torg|: | other then that make sure it runs and forget its there |
| [22:26:56] | promacuser: | ok. here i go |
| [22:27:21] | promacuser: | oh, how do i restart ntpd? |
| [22:27:41] | |Torg|: | kill it then run it? use init scripts? however you want |
| [22:27:52] | promacuser: | ah, right, so i have to find it in top |
| [22:27:53] | hjohnson: | kill -HUP it |
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| [22:28:58] | promacuser: | how do i find a PID quickly? |
| [22:29:07] | |Torg|: | ps -ef | grep ntpd |
| [22:29:10] | promacuser: | sorry for all the queestions. i'm terrible at unix |
| [22:29:21] | promacuser: | someday i might remember that |
| [22:29:32] | |Torg|: | if you want to know if your ntp is stable, instead of "peers" tell it "assoc" |
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| [22:29:46] | |Torg|: | other then that ignore it |
| [22:29:54] | promacuser: | i will. it was running about 6 ntp PIDs |
| [22:29:58] | promacuser: | so i just restarted |
| [22:30:16] | |Torg|: | on your mac? |
| [22:30:20] | promacuser: | the mythbox |
| [22:30:29] | Jearil: | hey everyone.. I upgraded to .20 and while watching livetv works fine, my recordings aren't actually happening.. anyone able to point me in a direction to start looking? |
| [22:30:33] | |Torg|: | you sure, it wont start if its already running |
| [22:30:55] | promacuser: | root@mythtv:/etc# ps -ef | grep ntpd |
| [22:30:55] | promacuser: | root 4909 1 0 Sep10 ? 00:00:17 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid |
| [22:30:55] | promacuser: | root 4924 4909 0 Sep10 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid |
| [22:30:55] | promacuser: | root 17756 1 0 17:14 ? 00:00:00 ntpd |
| [22:30:55] | promacuser: | root 17757 17756 0 17:14 ? 00:00:00 ntpd |
| [22:30:56] | promacuser: | root 17811 1 0 17:21 ? 00:00:00 ntpd |
| [22:30:58] | promacuser: | root 17812 17811 0 17:21 ? 00:00:00 ntpd |
| [22:31:17] | promacuser: | and of course the grep one |
| [22:31:39] | |Torg|: | just killall of them |
| [22:31:57] | |Torg|: | I dont know why your ntp is forking a child process but it seems to want to do so |
| [22:32:10] | |Torg|: | the last 4 I havnt a clue as to why there there, they shoudlnt be |
| [22:32:21] | promacuser: | haha. that was me typing in "ntpd" |
| [22:32:38] | promacuser: | here is the new ntpq info |
| [22:32:40] | promacuser: | 192.168.1.103 17.254.0.31 3 u 37 64 1 1.458 -185755 0.004 |
| [22:32:49] | |Torg|: | what does assoc give you? |
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| [22:38:00] | promacuser: | 1 27204 8014 yes yes none reject reachable 1 |
| [22:38:07] | promacuser: | is the reject bad? |
| [22:38:30] | |Torg|: | not at the moment |
| [22:38:48] | |Torg|: | wait abotu 5 mins, then check it again |
| [22:39:10] | promacuser: | ok |
| [22:39:12] | promacuser: | i'll be back |
| [22:39:14] | |Torg|: | eventualy one will say sys.peer and probli if you ahve more candidate |
| [22:39:32] | promacuser: | Torg, you're a lifesaver |
| [22:39:56] | |Torg|: | your welcome |
| [22:40:03] | promacuser: | yes, i see it on the mac. it says sys.peer and reachable |
| [22:40:29] | promacuser: | now, is this likely to make the speed faster? |
| [22:41:06] | |Torg|: | reachable is mandatory, if its not it menas you cant talk to the time server |
| [22:45:28] | promacuser: | whooo! |
| [22:45:31] | promacuser: | sys.peer is there |
| [22:45:39] | promacuser: | i'm going to try a movie |
| [22:46:43] | promacuser: | holy. cow. that's an amazing difference. |
| [22:49:31] | stuarta: | i take it it's working better? |
| [22:50:30] | promacuser: | it's dramatically better |
| [22:50:43] | promacuser: | but now i'm having trouble with the IMDB script |
| [22:51:37] | WAR_CH|LD: | ok, LIRCD... i've got it runn but I need to make a config file, or make changes too it. anyway whne I run irrecord I keep getting this error "irrecord: invalid argument count" any idea whats wrong? |
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| [22:54:10] | promacuser: | is anyone else reporting trouble with the IMDB lookup script? |
| [22:56:20] | Anduin: | WAR_CH|LD: it may be trying to read an existing config, I'd look there |
| [22:56:28] | Anduin: | promacuser: What are you seeing? |
| [22:57:07] | promacuser: | Anduin: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation |
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| [22:57:16] | promacuser: | line 217 and 218 |
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| [22:58:54] | banyan: | Hey all, what's the scoop with the missing packages PIL, libdfftw and libdrfftw? |
| [22:59:04] | Anduin: | promacuser: Which movie? |
| [22:59:34] | banyan: | Did a yum update and I got these dependencies missing. |
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| [23:00:58] | WAR_CH|LD: | um, there are no existing config's.. I renamed the config file i have |
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| [23:05:03] | WAR_CH|LD: | I get nothing on google for the error |
| [23:05:56] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, type man irrecord and look at the arguments it would like you to give |
| [23:06:29] | promacuser: | Anduin: ANY movie, including ones that already had info. no matter whether i look it up or put in the info manually |
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| [23:06:47] | promacuser: | the number manually, that should have read |
| [23:07:20] | Anduin: | promacuser: using imdb.pl? |
| [23:07:43] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, it wants the driver and device.. so i'm putting in irrecord --driver=dvico --device=/dev/input/event2 |
| [23:08:10] | WAR_CH|LD: | oh i'm an idiot |
| [23:08:19] | WAR_CH|LD: | sorry man, thanks thou. :) |
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| [23:08:29] | WAR_CH|LD: | I blame the drugs. lol |
| [23:08:37] | promacuser: | Anduin: yes |
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| [23:09:05] | Flimzy: | I'm not getting any sound with recordings made from my PVR-500... Does it require a spearate module for audio support or something? |
| [23:09:18] | hjohnson: | Flimzy: no. |
| [23:09:22] | Flimzy: | hrm |
| [23:09:25] | hjohnson: | it should be mux'd into the mpeg2 stream |
| [23:09:32] | Flimzy: | that's what I thought. |
| [23:09:36] | Flimzy: | I wonder why it's always silent |
| [23:10:12] | Anduin: | Flimzy: look in dmesg, maybe your audio module failed to load or the firmware for it did |
| [23:10:49] | Flimzy: | Anduin: hjohnson just said it doesn't use a different audio module |
| [23:10:54] | Anduin: | promacuser: I don't see it with the movie I tried |
| [23:11:05] | banyan: | Any fedora users who've updated with yum in the last couple of days? |
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| [23:11:15] | kormoc: | Flimzy, not a extra module, but ivtv requires a audio firmware *and* a video firmware |
| [23:11:26] | promacuser: | Anduin: hmm, maybe i'm running an old version of the script? |
| [23:11:37] | Flimzy: | Okay. I'll check then |
| [23:12:07] | Anduin: | promacuser: I don't remember anything in that area in a long time, maybe, what version? |
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| [23:12:32] | Flimzy: | Is it possible to flag certian channels to _not_ do commercial detection (specifically PBS, HBO, etc?) |
| [23:12:52] | stuarta: | compile faster damn you!!!! |
| [23:12:55] | Anduin: | Flimzy: Yes, mythtv-setup or direct DB manipulation |
| [23:12:55] | promacuser: | Anduin: good question. i haven't updated for quite a while, maybe 3–6 months |
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| [23:14:36] | Anduin: | promacuser: The latest version would probably not be great for you, all output is forced utf8 which would be broken if not using a matching MythVideo. |
| [23:15:16] | ** stuarta threatens his computer with 240V across the nipples.... ** | |
| [23:15:22] | promacuser: | Anduin: shoot |
| [23:15:35] | promacuser: | i did find this: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1405 |
| [23:15:58] | stuarta: | Flimzy: set those channels as commercial free |
| [23:16:33] | banyan: | 'cause when I try and yum update to grab version 1.20–137 I have missing packages. |
| [23:17:27] | mishehu: | bah. click click click instead of audio from the internal dvd player :-/ |
| [23:18:19] | Anduin: | promacuser: Yeah, using the imdb.pl from that changeset or just the one sitting in 0.19-fixes is worth a try. |
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| [23:20:13] | ravv: | Anyone know of a good DVB-T card that has CI-slot an dual tuners? |
| [23:20:16] | Flimzy: | Anduin: It appears to be only loading one firmware file |
| [23:20:40] | Anduin: | Flimzy: pastebin the ivtv init section stuff |
| [23:20:42] | ravv: | (that works with mythtv) |
| [23:21:10] | Flimzy: | Anduin: Are you sure you're not thinking of the radio firmware as being a second file? |
| [23:21:44] | Flimzy: | I've had this tuner working before with these exact firmware files (previous version of ivtv, tho)... but I've never had a specific _audio_ firmware before. |
| [23:22:08] | promacuser: | Anduin: where's the best place to find something like that? |
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| [23:24:12] | rever: | Hi is there anyway to make my "Green WIndows Button" on my mce remote start mythfrontend? |
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| [23:25:48] | Flimzy: | Anduin: I'm trying to pastebin, but it's being very slow |
| [23:27:20] | Flimzy: | Perhaps I need the tuner driver modular, so it can load two instances of it |
| [23:29:07] | Flimzy: | Screw pastebin's slow buutt |
| [23:29:24] | Anduin: | promacuser: svn.mythtv.org browse source, dig down, I'll paste a link |
| [23:29:52] | Anduin: | Flimzy: depends on the audio chip your card has |
| [23:30:32] | Anduin: | Flimzy: The bit in the ivtv section would be obvious though "Fail to load firmware" (not exact text) |
| [23:32:14] | mishehu: | hmm guys, I can't seem to find anything on this and the documentation on mythtv.org is out-of-date it seems. I'm trying to use the internal player in mythdvd, and I cannot get audio from any of the dvds. all I am getting is pops and clicks. xine plays the audio fine so it must be a config or software issue in mythdvd. |
| [23:32:41] | hjohnson: | I thought mythdvd just called xine? |
| [23:33:13] | GreyFoxx: | Mythdvd calls whatever app it's configured to call. as of 0.20 it defaults to the Internal player |
| [23:33:16] | promacuser: | Anduin: will it be in the branches? |
| [23:34:04] | mishehu: | yeah, and I'd prefer to use the internal because I've had no luck getting xine to use lirc. |
| [23:34:32] | Anduin: | promacuser: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . l?format=raw |
| [23:35:20] | promacuser: | woah, that was quick |
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| [23:35:46] | Flimzy: | Anduin: There is a 'failed to load module wm8776' (or similar)... so I'm recompiling with that (and the cmXXXX) modular... |
| [23:37:22] | Anduin: | Flimzy: Yeah, that wm module is the sound module for your card (no external firmware for it) |
| [23:37:59] | Flimzy: | alrighty... rebooting now. hopefully it's this simple! |
| [23:39:15] | Flimzy: | hmmm |
| [23:39:18] | Flimzy: | now no sound from firewire, either! |
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| [23:40:34] | Flimzy: | hmm, now it works |
| [23:40:35] | Flimzy: | weird |
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| [23:41:42] | Flimzy: | okay, still no sound on the pvr |
| [23:42:18] | Flimzy: | *still* failed to load the sound module |
| [23:42:32] | Anduin: | Flimzy: you did a depmod -a? |
| [23:42:46] | Flimzy: | No... normally the deb does that automatically, tho |
| [23:42:53] | Flimzy: | but I guess I can try it myself and see what happens |
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| [23:43:34] | promacuser: | Anduin: there are 0 differences according to FileMerge |
| [23:44:19] | Flimzy: | I'm not finding where to turn off commercial flagging for a specific channel |
| [23:44:38] | promacuser: | Anduin: is there a patch? this appears to have been a problem in february |
| [23:46:41] | Flimzy: | well syslog says it loaded the audio driver this time |
| [23:46:45] | Flimzy: | but still no sound |
| [23:47:01] | Anduin: | promacuser: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . l?format=raw you will need to comment out the binmode(STDOUT, ":utf8"); at the top |
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| [23:49:40] | Flimzy: | GRR |
| [23:49:41] | Flimzy: | WTF? |
| [23:50:50] | promacuser: | Anduin: same thing. but a bunch of extra errors afterward as well |
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| [23:57:32] | Anduin: | promacuser: time to give me an imdb number |
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| [23:58:51] | Anduin: | promacuser: putting the output on a pastebin may be useful in tracking it down as well |
| [23:59:03] | mishehu: | *sigh* |
| [23:59:22] | promacuser: | Anduin: it wasn't even a number. just a lookup |
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