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| [00:00:19] | scottder: | may just be time to go to FC5 |
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| [00:05:32] | albertinnyc: | Juski – can you tell me more about your option 3, Cable HDTV tuner? Is this a Cable-enabled HDTV capture card? |
| [00:06:20] | Juski: | albertinnyc: not being a USA resident I can't advise you on that.. I've heard tell of QAM tuners working with HD feeds on some cable networks.. might be worth you looking into that somehow |
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| [00:09:29] | hjohnson: | albertinnyc: don't think so.. |
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| [00:09:47] | hjohnson: | albertinnyc: the most i've heard of is people pulling the firewire feed off of digital cable boxes and the like |
| [00:10:21] | hjohnson: | whoa... biodiesel is cheaper than dino-diesel in my home town |
| [00:10:35] | Juski: | http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/Section/id-129198.html |
| [00:11:29] | albertinnyc: | hjohnson – yes, I read about that too. SA 3250HD has a firewire output, i need to see if my box does. |
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| [00:12:23] | Juski: | albertinnyc: if your box doesn't, you should be able to get one provided. there's an FCC mandate apparently |
| [00:12:58] | hjohnson: | albertinnyc: probably, but it's likely that only your local tv stations will be useable over it. |
| [00:14:06] | hjohnson: | since everything else will have the 5c flag set, which means it will be encrypted and crap |
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| [00:16:00] | Juski: | some folks find that not as much is 5C encrippled as they expected though. definitely the exception rather than the rule |
| [00:16:25] | albertinnyc: | understood. QAM sounds promising, I will call my cable company and see if they support it. |
| [00:17:15] | hjohnson: | albertinnyc: they won't know.. they'll just e using motorola boxes |
| [00:17:36] | Juski: | from the hearsay I've picked up, it's mostly just premium channels that are 5c protected |
| [00:17:49] | Juski: | and in one case, none |
| [00:17:55] | Juski: | so, YMMV |
| [00:18:15] | hjohnson: | heeh |
| [00:18:37] | hjohnson: | unfortunately in my area, they even tend to 5C local stuff "By accident" |
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| [00:21:00] | albertinnyc: | out of curiosity, do you guys know how Tivo does this? they need to do the same thing basically right? |
| [00:21:40] | Juski: | tivo pay their dues & get the key to the magic city |
| [00:22:13] | hjohnson: | yeah, they bend it over for the man. :P |
| [00:22:17] | Juski: | and they sign very strong legally binding agreements to keep the door shut |
| [00:23:05] | ssmoot: | Hello, I just got my first MythTV box setup on Unbuntu and would like to add a second capture device. My first is a ConvertX controlling a DirecTV box over serial. I'd like another ConvertX, or maybe a Low-Profile internal card, but I'm not sure if the PVR150-LP is a good choice? I'm also not sure how I'd control it since I'm already using my only serial port. |
| [00:24:11] | scottder: | the card is controlled directly |
| [00:24:15] | hjohnson: | ssmoot: the 150 is nice card, with hardware mpeg 2 and the like |
| [00:24:36] | hjohnson: | the other you could do with, say, a USB->Serial adapter |
| [00:24:40] | ssmoot: | scottder: I'm sorry, I meant how would I control a second satellite reciever. |
| [00:25:00] | scottder: | Ahhh |
| [00:25:44] | ssmoot: | hjohnson: Thanks, I wasn't sure that those worked under Linux. Do you know if they're pretty much plug & play? A USB port will just magically map to /dev/ttyS1 hopefully? |
| [00:26:05] | hjohnson: | ssmoot: if the kernel supports it, it will work.. the common prolifics work just fine |
| [00:26:35] | hjohnson: | if you get the 150 you'll also be able to use it for regular cable and/or OTA |
| [00:26:46] | hjohnson: | since it has an integrated tuner |
| [00:26:46] | ssmoot: | Well, problem solved then. Thanks a lot! |
| [00:27:24] | hjohnson: | i'm choked that my new athlon 64 motherboard only has a serial header, rather than a real serial port, yet still has a parallel port |
| [00:27:29] | hjohnson: | why not make the parallel a header? |
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| [00:27:47] | kormoc: | cause parallel ports are used 1000x more then serial ports? |
| [00:28:05] | ssmoot: | The only problem with the 150LP (has to be LP since I unwisely chose style over expansion with my Ahanix ;-) ) is it doesn't come with a remote that I can tell, and I was kinda hoping for an easy way to get one working with MythTV. |
| [00:28:31] | hjohnson: | kormoc: christ, i haven't used a parallel port in almost 6 years |
| [00:28:40] | hjohnson: | kormoc: what do people use 'em for these days? |
| [00:28:46] | kormoc: | ssmoot, that's okay, you can buy a microsoft mce usb 2 for like $25, and it's a very awesome remote |
| [00:29:08] | kormoc: | hjohnson, printers and scanners. I know a lot of people who haven't switched to usb, esp on linux boxes |
| [00:29:23] | Beirdo: | and not many people use serial ports at all |
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| [00:29:25] | ssmoot: | So MCE remotes work? Do you know if that Logitech Harmony remote does off the top of your head kormac? |
| [00:29:41] | kormoc: | Sure does |
| [00:30:02] | hjohnson: | kormoc: oh.. my printer has lived on ethernet for nearly the past decade. :P |
| [00:30:46] | Beirdo: | my printer currently is a disposable Lexmark Z617. which surprisingly... works OK in Linux with Lexmark's drivers |
| [00:30:50] | Beirdo: | USB... |
| [00:31:18] | hjohnson: | yeah, my printer isa 123lb Laserjet 4si |
| [00:31:25] | hjohnson: | it's a beheamouth |
| [00:31:40] | Beirdo: | my LaserJet 1200 lived on parallel though. |
| [00:31:55] | lotia: | is it likely that 0.21 will require qt 4? |
| [00:32:12] | kormoc: | not really, no lotia |
| [00:32:19] | kormoc: | there's been no work in that direction yet |
| [00:32:21] | AngryElf: | upgrading is as straight forward as ./configure && make && make install? no need to remove old versions first? |
| [00:32:47] | ssmoot: | That's great. You guys have been very helpful. If I could bug you for one last question? I finished my Myth install (on Ubuntu 6.06 if it matters) last night, and when I checked it this afternoon, the backend was running, but it didn't display any upcoming recordings. So I killed the backend and restarted it, and the upcoming recordings show up again. Since the repo upgraded from .19 to .20 I went ahead and upgraded Myth, bu |
| [00:32:47] | ssmoot: | t I'm hoping the distro combo (or myth itself?) isn't know for any sort of glaring instability if you're careful? |
| [00:32:50] | lotia: | kormoc: are they planning on the switch around the same time as kde 4 is released? |
| [00:33:05] | ssmoot: | D'oh, sorry about the length... |
| [00:33:06] | Beirdo: | hopefully not :) |
| [00:33:07] | kormoc: | as far as I know, there is no planned switch at all |
| [00:33:15] | Beirdo: | that would break so many current systems |
| [00:33:17] | lotia: | kormoc: oh okay |
| [00:33:32] | lotia: | kormoc: thanks |
| [00:33:56] | lotia: | has 0.20 been stable for folks also any gentoo users here who know of 0.20 ebuilds? |
| [00:34:35] | kormoc: | lotia, check packages.gentoo.org about the ebuilds, if you have, you'd have seen that they're already in the tree, just masked |
| [00:34:45] | lotia: | kormoc: thanks |
| [00:35:04] | e4: | is there a Fedora build around yet? |
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| [00:35:21] | albertinnyc: | So from my cable operators website I found that signal here is delivered in QAM format, and cable-ready TV's do work, but require a Cable Card. So if anyone makes a HDTV cable-ready capture card that takes a CableCard, that should work ... |
| [00:35:22] | lotia: | kormoc: currently doing a emerge -eav world (compiler update) so not as resourceful as i usually am |
| [00:35:39] | Anduin: | e4: atrpms has had it for a day |
| [00:35:58] | hjohnson: | albertinnyc: hmm. that might be in violation of drm rules |
| [00:36:10] | e4: | heh any chance of a prebuilt distro? |
| [00:36:20] | AngryElf: | hmmm...Retro theme eh |
| [00:36:32] | Anduin: | e4: The generally takes much longer |
| [00:36:34] | scottder: | Was MythMusic removed from MythWeb? |
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| [00:39:22] | fenris: | hm, falls noch jemand wach ist... |
| [00:39:30] | fenris: | mythfrontend sagt mir beim starten nur |
| [00:39:33] | fenris: | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/CSt5v674.html |
| [00:39:34] | fenris: | das da |
| [00:39:40] | fenris: | das dafür aber oft ;) |
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| [00:42:13] | fenris: | omg, echan again, im so sorry |
| [00:42:24] | fenris: | what i wanted to say was |
| [00:43:00] | fenris: | mythfrontend says this at startup: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/CSt5v674.html |
| [00:43:10] | Honk^away: | fenris: well.. the errormsg is pretty clear ;) |
| [00:43:21] | Honk^away: | set up your mysql db properly =) |
| [00:43:30] | ** Honk^away hides ** | |
| [00:43:38] | fenris: | ... |
| [00:43:44] | fenris: | and whats "properly"? |
| [00:44:08] | fenris: | my mysql skills are really limited... |
| [00:46:15] | regicide666: | I had a crash last night and now mytharchive thinks it is still running dvdauthor and won't quit. Anyone know how I can convice it that it is not doing what it thinks it is? |
| [00:48:00] | Juski: | find the temp directory.. clues will lie therein |
| [00:50:30] | Dagmar: | If while on your quest you meet a small man on a bridge, DO NOT MAKE EYE CONTACT. |
| [00:50:59] | Juski: | hmm! solve problems do I |
| [00:51:40] | mchou: | albertinnyc: forget about it. CableCARD aint ever gonna work on linux unless it gets hacked |
| [00:51:55] | regicide666: | pngs mpgs and xmls oh my |
| [00:51:59] | regicide666: | what am I looking for |
| [00:52:30] | Juski: | regicide666: probably a file which mytharchive uses to keep track of where it's up to I think |
| [00:54:43] | mchou: | anyone know how to compile mythplugins w/o installing myth (i.e. just compile in a working dir)? |
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| [00:55:15] | Juski: | time for bed I reckon. another long day ahead tomorrow |
| [00:55:18] | Juski: | g'night |
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| [01:19:48] | pushpop: | anyone here ever set up a remote with lirc that uses a serial connection on gentoo? |
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| [01:26:53] | visi: | whoah check this http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2994/cyberlink_and_hauppauge |
| [01:27:17] | visi: | HBO HD here I come :D |
| [01:30:45] | xris: | visi: assuming that there are linux drivers... |
| [01:31:03] | xris: | and that Dish/Bellvu will allow it |
| [01:31:31] | visi: | all in good time |
| [01:32:15] | xris: | well, since it looks like there are no providers in the US currently offering the service, it may be awhile. |
| [01:32:29] | xris: | and HBO HD works just fine over my firewire setup. :) |
| [01:32:56] | visi: | yeah i never figured out how that one works |
| [01:33:01] | xris: | ? |
| [01:33:35] | visi: | through firewire |
| [01:33:55] | visi: | only hd right? |
| [01:34:12] | xris: | depends on provider/region |
| [01:34:18] | xris: | I get everything but vh1 |
| [01:34:24] | xris: | no idea why that one doesn't work |
| [01:34:43] | regicide666: | what provider? |
| [01:34:55] | xris: | legally, they're only required to provide 480p versions of channels you'd normally get HD over the air, but since transcoding is expensive, you get the full HD versions. |
| [01:35:00] | xris: | regicide666: comcast in seattle |
| [01:35:28] | regicide666: | I doubt I would get it from Time Warner |
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| [01:35:34] | xris: | unfortunately, many providers *only* do the bare minimum of the broadcast channels (if at all — some are still fighting it out in court to avoid doing it at all). |
| [01:35:48] | xris: | regicide666: comcast is a franchise, too.. doesn't work the same in all regions, either. |
| [01:35:56] | regicide666: | How hard is the firewire setup? |
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| [01:36:11] | xris: | I got fairly lucky here, but there are people all over the US who have the same "everything" (well, everything that's digital). |
| [01:36:17] | xris: | firewire is a piece of cake |
| [01:36:28] | xris: | far less work than my pvr-150 wa |
| [01:36:28] | xris: | was |
| [01:37:13] | regicide666: | I was thinking of getting a box because I only have one HD card and no room for another and when you see HD you don't want to record anything else |
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| [01:37:33] | regicide666: | unless it is not in HD |
| [01:37:41] | regicide666: | then it does not matter |
| [01:38:07] | regicide666: | Have you used mytharchive? |
| [01:38:08] | xris: | I don't have an HD capable TV. I got it for the high quality (relatively) mpeg stream of the standard channels. |
| [01:38:16] | xris: | nope, I archive my stuff to xvid |
| [01:38:30] | regicide666: | I am having a problem |
| [01:38:43] | xris: | archiving to dvd seems stupid — I can fit 26 half-hour shows onto a dvd in avi format. |
| [01:39:26] | kormoc: | but sadly, you can't play them in a dvd player |
| [01:39:32] | regicide666: | well I would like to get it working more because I can give a show to a friend if they miss it or things like that |
| [01:40:31] | xris: | kormoc: true. but I don't care about that feature. |
| [01:40:56] | xris: | regicide666: not technically legal to do that, so we try to avoid talking about such things here. |
| [01:41:16] | xris: | <soapbox>burning to dvd is for personal backup purposes only</soapbox> |
| [01:41:50] | regicide666: | Well that is not all true either it depends on how you look at it |
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| [01:42:34] | xris: | huh? the "vcr law" that lets you do recording like that specifically forbids sharing outside of your immediate household. |
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| [01:46:52] | scottder: | yikes nice to add a "nice" prefix to the commflag command... |
| [01:46:58] | scottder: | load of 3.0 is bad :) |
| [01:47:09] | xris: | um, it doesn't do that already? |
| [01:47:17] | xris: | load number has very little to do with cpu usage |
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| [01:47:45] | ShockValue: | hola's |
| [01:47:53] | xris: | anyway, time for me to go home. later. |
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| [01:48:35] | ShockValue: | anyone know if there's a .20 ebuild for gentoo in portage yet? |
| [01:49:44] | Anduin: | I bet there is a way to find out |
| [01:49:46] | kormoc: | ShockValue, why, if you would just have checked packages.gentoo.org, you would see that yes, there is a 0.20 ebuild in the tree |
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| [01:52:04] | scottder: | Ok I wasn't seein a load like this with 0.19 |
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| [01:52:12] | ShockValue: | right, and im syncying up, and not getting it.. so i thought someone else might have more information on the subject. |
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| [01:54:12] | kormoc: | ShockValue, ebuilds can take upto 48 hours to populate from the base tree to all the mirrors |
| [01:54:35] | Paladine: | hehehe my modded bt878 card is still working flawlessly :) |
| [01:54:46] | ShockValue: | k, thanks for the divine info |
| [01:54:48] | Paladine: | been running for about 5 hours now :) |
| [01:55:30] | kormoc: | divine info? |
| [01:55:33] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [01:56:24] | mchou: | Paladine: modded how? |
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| [01:57:43] | ShockValue: | ooo its masked, i get it now... I didnt catch that "M" |
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| [01:58:02] | fiveiron: | isn't there an easy fix for the audio in mythtv being way out of sync? |
| [01:58:06] | Paladine: | mchou, chasis plate removed, cable jammed into the port (since I don't have an adapter) paper to insulate the card from the chasis and delicately balanced in the PC slot (since it has no chasis plate) |
| [01:58:24] | Paladine: | PCI slot even |
| [02:00:15] | mchou: | Paladine: that's not a mod. That's butchery |
| [02:01:18] | Paladine: | well kinda I guess ;) |
| [02:01:22] | Paladine: | but it works |
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| [02:10:01] | AngryElf: | hmmm....Database schema upgrade FAILED, unlocking. |
| [02:10:35] | AngryElf: | If you are sure this is a good mythtv database veryfy that the settings table has a DBSchemaVer variable.....how do i do that? |
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| [02:12:03] | Anduin: | AngryElf: select DBSchemaVer from settings |
| [02:12:36] | Anduin: | Then look at the code |
| [02:13:02] | AngryElf: | Anduin it's saying unknown column 'DBSchemaVer' in 'field list' |
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| [02:13:46] | Anduin: | AngryElf: It only looked like valid SQL, the column name is value |
| [02:14:48] | hjohnson: | damnit, they can't find the openbox athlon 64 |
| [02:16:08] | mchou: | hjohnson: make then send a closed box one :) |
| [02:16:13] | mchou: | them* |
| [02:16:16] | AngryElf: | Anduin, sorry, i'm not following that |
| [02:16:53] | hjohnson: | eh, they'll allow me to pay the difference when I go to the store.. |
| [02:16:55] | hjohnson: | it's like $20 |
| [02:16:59] | Anduin: | AngryElf: select data from settings where value = 'DBSchemaVer'; |
| [02:17:30] | AngryElf: | Empty set |
| [02:17:54] | mchou: | hjohnson: why should you have to pay the additional $20 when they are the ones that cant find their crap? |
| [02:18:58] | AngryElf: | Anduin ^^ any ideas? could I add it in somehow? |
| [02:19:05] | Anduin: | AngryElf: Is there anything in your settings table? |
| [02:19:11] | hjohnson: | mchou: point |
| [02:20:16] | Anduin: | Only if you assign a low value to your time and frustration. |
| [02:20:35] | AngryElf: | i dont know how to view the whole table |
| [02:20:50] | Anduin: | AngryElf: Use a GUI tool |
| [02:21:06] | AngryElf: | eh, new DB it is |
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| [02:21:49] | Dagmar: | Well, some people's time is just naturally worthless. |
| [02:22:46] | hjohnson: | mchou: eh, it's not worth fighting over $20 |
| [02:25:01] | fiveiron: | isn't there an easy fix for the audio in mythtv being way out of sync? |
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| [02:25:59] | Anduin: | fiveiron: which file types? What more exotic options do you have set? |
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| [02:27:26] | fiveiron: | Anduin, i'm talking when I'm watching TV |
| [02:27:31] | fiveiron: | the channels are out of sync |
| [02:27:34] | fiveiron: | with the audio |
| [02:27:53] | Anduin: | fiveiron: software encoding card you haven't setup right? |
| [02:29:36] | fiveiron: | where would the set up for that be in mythtv-setup? |
| [02:30:41] | Anduin: | fiveiron: read the sound setup info at mythtv.org (the Documentation link), and yeah, your card type would be the card type you selected in mythtv-setup |
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| [02:31:15] | Anduin: | fiveiron: if it were one of the x50/500 cards it would be strange, for software encoding, well people mess that up all the time. |
| [02:32:27] | fiveiron: | its an ESS137x card |
| [02:33:43] | Anduin: | fiveiron: it is a sound card? |
| [02:33:59] | fiveiron: | yeah... an ensoniq pci sound card |
| [02:34:10] | Anduin: | fiveiron: and your capture card is? |
| [02:34:21] | fiveiron: | you'll like this: ati tv-wonder pro |
| [02:34:26] | fiveiron: | :-P |
| [02:35:09] | Anduin: | fiveiron: A software encoding card, go through the documentation above and ensure you haven't set things up wrong (people usually hear "live" while watching the encoded) |
| [02:35:19] | Anduin: | (when they do it wrong) |
| [02:35:28] | fiveiron: | yeah i think thats what I'm getting... |
| [02:35:37] | ** fiveiron reads ** | |
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| [02:37:06] | hobophobe: | So if I upgrade udev, it seems then I must re-chmod /dev/ttyS0 (for serial-port-channel-changing) and manually tune the card to the stb's out-channel. |
| [02:37:47] | hobophobe: | I'd have thought the setting in mythtv-setup would've taken care of the latter, but apparently not. |
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| [02:39:11] | Anduin: | hobophobe: mythtv-setup can set the channel to tune to, no need to do it manually |
| [02:39:39] | hobophobe: | Anduin, it doesn't. :o) |
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| [02:39:51] | hobophobe: | I had a lot of grief to find that out. |
| [02:40:10] | hobophobe: | some quirk of my system most likely, but nonetheless I had to do it manually. |
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| [02:41:37] | hobophobe: | It's only just after I upgrade...and now I'll know to do that. My initial install I didn't even need a base-channel like that and I had it set on us-bcast instead of us-cable. Upgraded udev and it didn't work, took me a good while of trying things that weren't the problem before I tried the ivtv-tune util |
| [02:43:09] | Anduin: | hobophobe: sounds like /dev/videox problems as well |
| [02:43:21] | hobophobe: | hm? not sure what you mean |
| [02:43:35] | Anduin: | hobophobe: Do you run mythbackend as root? |
| [02:43:50] | hobophobe: | yes, as far as I know (it runs as part of the regular startup stuff) |
| [02:44:06] | hobophobe: | /etc/init.d/ |
| [02:44:15] | Anduin: | hobophobe: You did the ivtv channel as root? |
| [02:44:25] | hobophobe: | nope, did that as mythtv user |
| [02:44:32] | Anduin: | (where it starts has no real meaning, mine starts from init but doesn't run as root) |
| [02:44:33] | hobophobe: | and it sticks |
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| [02:44:46] | hobophobe: | oh, what user it's running as...just a sec |
| [02:45:14] | hobophobe: | the backend is in fact running as mythtv user |
| [02:45:35] | Anduin: | hobophobe: There are also funky things like changing perms when someone actually logs in |
| [02:45:50] | AngryElf_: | how do you mouse gesture in .2? |
| [02:46:41] | Zider: | what's that? |
| [02:46:54] | hobophobe: | it lets you wave your hand and make your computer do your bidding |
| [02:47:16] | hobophobe: | "go get me a commercial skip, womanputer" |
| [02:47:20] | Zider: | I use my threatening axe to do that |
| [02:47:31] | Zider: | it's even compatible with humans |
| [02:48:20] | hobophobe: | Does it have a usb? |
| [02:48:53] | Zider: | eSATA |
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| [02:52:03] | fiveiron: | ugh.... i hate setting up sound in mythtv |
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| [02:52:10] | fiveiron: | since i have 3 sound cards in this pc |
| [02:52:11] | fiveiron: | :-( |
| [02:52:14] | hobophobe: | I haven't _touched_ the sound in mythtv hehe |
| [02:52:20] | hobophobe: | I have zero (just onboard) |
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| [02:53:23] | hobophobe: | my tv card was the first pci device I installed in this mobo. just have that and my agp video card |
| [02:53:59] | hobophobe: | back in the day I'd wish I had extra pci slots |
| [02:54:01] | Tronic: | Setting up the sound was trivial once someone told me how to use ALSA. |
| [02:54:10] | fiveiron: | ? |
| [02:54:13] | Tronic: | (instead of OSS with MythTV, that is) |
| [02:54:27] | fiveiron: | i'm just using the mixer in gnome |
| [02:54:34] | fiveiron: | is there something else i should be doing? |
| [02:54:40] | fiveiron: | the mixer uses alsa... |
| [02:54:55] | hobophobe: | you're just trying to get the sound to the right volume levels, or what? |
| [02:55:09] | fiveiron: | actually right now i'm trying to get sound to work period... |
| [02:55:18] | hobophobe: | oh. |
| [02:55:26] | Tronic: | Got the right card selected? |
| [02:55:28] | fiveiron: | i've got my tuner card piped into the mic input on my 2nd pci sound card |
| [02:55:33] | fiveiron: | as far as i know |
| [02:55:35] | hobophobe: | For that you'll probably need to go into mythtv-setup and specify the /dev/<sound device> |
| [02:55:42] | Tronic: | Oh, analog TV crap. |
| [02:55:44] | fiveiron: | in the mixer they are named, in mythtv they are not |
| [02:55:47] | Tronic: | No idea about those. |
| [02:55:48] | fiveiron: | aye |
| [02:56:33] | hobophobe: | are you working on getting input or output? |
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| [02:56:57] | fiveiron: | output |
| [02:57:21] | Dwonis: | Hi. Can MythTV (or Linux in general) compress the dynamic range of the output audio signal? i.e. so users don't have to adjust the volume themselves? |
| [02:57:26] | fiveiron: | i know the sound is coming in correctly |
| [02:57:56] | hobophobe: | okay, well your best bet is to find a sound-playing program (probably have one already installed) that will list the devices as /dev/[device] and monitor output from the card you want to hear from and then you'll know which /dev/[device] to plug into mythtv-setup |
| [02:59:08] | hobophobe: | Dwonis, with the right program you can accomplish that..but you might have to set up some sort of external script to invoke it (unless mythtv has a built in 'command line to run on new files' or such) |
| [02:59:23] | Zider: | Dwonis: you mean normalizing? |
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| [03:00:40] | Dwonis: | Zider: possibly, but I might need more control than that. I'm setting up a MythTV box for some people who are slightly hard-of-hearing, so I want to control the dynamic range, not just do peak normalization |
| [03:01:52] | Dwonis: | something realtime would be ideal, but at this point I'm just looking for any sort of dynamic range control/compression |
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| [03:03:33] | AngryElf: | anyone know how mouse support works? |
| [03:04:07] | Dwonis: | basically Replay Gain, but for MythTV |
| [03:05:38] | darkdrgn2k: | is there anyway to lessen the buffer dealy on myth (the couple of seconds between channels?) |
| [03:05:51] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: Not really no |
| [03:06:02] | fiveiron: | so i've installed all the plugins... where exactly would they be available within the frontend? |
| [03:06:03] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: what do you mean by not really |
| [03:06:03] | GreyFoxx: | AngryElf: Can you ask that again but be more specific > |
| [03:06:24] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: i knwo there is the usse of the buffer ring.. and needing the delay between read/write but.. |
| [03:06:24] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: I mean there are things that can be done, but 99% of it is there to stay |
| [03:06:40] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: i know that, but what could be done? |
| [03:07:20] | GreyFoxx: | Your capture card hs a buffer you have no control over, the data is written to the drive, another process reads it from the drive, decodes and plays. And if sending over the network you also have an inherent delay there |
| [03:07:37] | Zider: | you COULD sacrifice a virgin.. but it wouldn't help.. ;) |
| [03:07:39] | GreyFoxx: | For some the channel change delay seems to be much greater than others |
| [03:07:44] | Zider: | virgins are nice tho :P |
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| [03:07:54] | defaultro: | mchou! |
| [03:07:54] | GreyFoxx: | for example mine take 1 second, but I hear people say some take up to 4 seconds |
| [03:08:01] | AngryElf: | GreyFoxx, i mean the release notes say that mouse gestures are a major change, yet my mouse doesn't do anything, and I can't find any docs on it |
| [03:08:04] | defaultro: | hi GreyFoxx |
| [03:08:13] | defaultro: | just saw a minute ago that .20 is out :) |
| [03:08:19] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx: that could be processor related, or buget vs mpeg |
| [03:08:33] | GreyFoxx: | "buget" ? |
| [03:08:37] | darkdrgn2k: | budget |
| [03:08:41] | darkdrgn2k: | aka fram grabbers |
| [03:08:45] | darkdrgn2k: | (sory dvb terminology lol) |
| [03:08:56] | darkdrgn2k: | *frame |
| [03:09:04] | hjohnson: | hmm.. a pentium m |
| [03:09:09] | hjohnson: | htpc would be ideal |
| [03:09:19] | hjohnson: | darkdrgn2k: heh, I work in the dvb-s biz day in and day out |
| [03:09:52] | GreyFoxx: | darkdrgn2k: I'm aware of what a budget card refers to. But we don't use any of the decoding on ff cards, so that really wouldn';t apply |
| [03:09:59] | Dwonis: | *mouse gestures*? Had MythTV jumped the shark or what? |
| [03:10:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: any idea why my dvb-s wont tune properly |
| [03:10:03] | Dwonis: | s/Had/Has/ |
| [03:10:22] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: any time i try doiung a scan it keeps returning the same 10 channels each transponder it reads |
| [03:10:40] | GreyFoxx: | AngryElf: Well I don'tknow about mouse "gestures" per say, but some of the main menu items are clickable now |
| [03:10:42] | darkdrgn2k: | GreyFoxx:thanx for that.. |
| [03:10:47] | hjohnson: | darkdrgn2k: dunno, checked to see what's available via lyngsat? |
| [03:10:51] | GreyFoxx: | not all of them by far |
| [03:11:01] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: i knwo whats available lOl |
| [03:11:10] | adante: | i remember at one stage, the channel change for me was about 28s |
| [03:11:12] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: it just seems it doesnt wanna tune properly! i donnow hats going on |
| [03:11:16] | GreyFoxx: | AngryElf: As more stuff is moved to use the mythui libraries more will be clickable I imagine |
| [03:11:17] | hjohnson: | darkdrgn2k: admitedly, I work on the transmission side, as opposed to the reception side. |
| [03:11:18] | adante: | so nowadays i'm just happy to have it under 5 |
| [03:11:27] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: oooooo, |
| [03:11:30] | hjohnson: | darkdrgn2k: can you manually progrma in the frequencies and symbol rates? |
| [03:11:39] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: u dud that, everythign seems fine |
| [03:11:47] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: *yeh did that |
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| [03:11:52] | hjohnson: | ahh. |
| [03:12:03] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: and it scans differnt transponders.. and every time it returns the same 6 channels |
| [03:12:14] | hjohnson: | darkdrgn2k: yeah, we make a dvb-s transmitter that fits into 3 70lb luggage cases |
| [03:12:43] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: satalite suite case bomb? |
| [03:12:47] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: lol j/k sorry |
| [03:12:58] | hjohnson: | darkdrgn2k: pretty much. :P |
| [03:13:12] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: LMAO kidna cool, dvb-s transmitter... in a sutcase |
| [03:13:19] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson: what is that for , satalite radio LOL |
| [03:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ok what device does Lircd transmit to.. is it /dev/lirc/0 or somethign else |
| [03:14:02] | hjohnson: | darkdrgn2k: Satellite News Gathering |
| [03:14:13] | darkdrgn2k: | hjohnson:aaaa makes sense.. cool |
| [03:14:46] | darkdrgn2k: | " |
| [03:14:48] | ** GreyFoxx taps his fingers waiting for his frontends to compile ** | |
| [03:14:53] | darkdrgn2k: | "Sep 25 10:29:26 mythsettop lircd: could not get file information for /dev/lirc" |
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| [03:15:02] | hobophobe: | Dwonis, what about an equalizer? Would that do it? |
| [03:15:17] | darkdrgn2k: | hmm i dont ave a /dev/lirc.... wtf? |
| [03:15:37] | hjohnson: | dam the core duo and core 2 duo stuff is pricey |
| [03:15:53] | hjohnson: | i'd almost be better buying a mac mini. :P |
| [03:16:05] | Dwonis: | hobophobe: what does an equalizer do? My understanding of what an equalizer is means it wouldn't help at all, but maybe we're not speaking the same language. |
| [03:16:23] | darkdrgn2k: | Dwonis: some equalizers have a pre amp :-P |
| [03:16:36] | hobophobe: | It sets the output at the various ranges of audio, as far as I've used one? |
| [03:16:44] | darkdrgn2k: | any one here use lirc?lol |
| [03:16:47] | hobophobe: | What exactly do you need done to the audio signal? |
| [03:16:57] | hobophobe: | You basically want it boosted, correct? |
| [03:16:57] | Dwonis: | darkdrgn2k: heh |
| [03:17:11] | hobophobe: | But beyond what mere volume control can? |
| [03:17:27] | Dwonis: | hobophobe: or cut. The problem is with movies and whatnot that have some overly-loud scenes and some overly-quiet scenes |
| [03:17:44] | Dwonis: | hobophobe: and, of course, commercials, but I'm less concerned about that |
| [03:17:45] | darkdrgn2k: | any one at all have any clue what device lircd talks to ? |
| [03:17:49] | hobophobe: | ah |
| [03:18:10] | hobophobe: | So you basically want to set up a 'range' and keep the sound within the min/max thereof. |
| [03:18:17] | hjohnson: | an equalizer runs a filter on the audio, increasing and decrecing different frequencies |
| [03:18:25] | hjohnson: | hobophobe: that's "compression" |
| [03:18:31] | hjohnson: | (not to be confused with data compression) |
| [03:19:09] | Dwonis: | hobophobe: right |
| [03:19:20] | ** hobophobe hates the one word meaning two things when it comes to search engines ** | |
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| [03:20:06] | hjohnson: | hobophobe: search for compander? |
| [03:20:45] | hobophobe: | ding! nice hjohnson |
| [03:21:04] | hjohnson: | which is a combination compressor/expander |
| [03:21:07] | hjohnson: | spot the audio geek |
| [03:22:32] | Dwonis: | hjohnson: where? ;) |
| [03:22:51] | hobophobe: | "SoX" has a compander, not sure how hard it would be to use in conjunction though |
| [03:23:21] | hobophobe: | ah, it's an editor I guess |
| [03:23:22] | hobophobe: | hmm |
| [03:24:26] | ** hjohnson has fond memories of the oldschool Orange County Compander/parametric equalizer in the studio ** | |
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| [03:25:11] | darkdrgn2k: | cany one klnow what this means |
| [03:25:12] | darkdrgn2k: | ([-1]): open result = -ENODEV |
| [03:25:20] | AngryElf: | can anyone think of a good reason why upgrading to .20 might have hosed my ivtv install? |
| [03:25:32] | AngryElf: | cat /dev/videoX now just produces static |
| [03:25:45] | hobophobe: | AngryElf, try ivtv-tune --channel=[stb channel number] |
| [03:26:16] | hobophobe: | ie, if you'd plug your tv in to the stb and tune it to channel 3, use 3 |
| [03:26:17] | darkdrgn2k: | Anduin: myth .20? |
| [03:26:32] | Dwonis: | darkdrgn2k: sounds like a driver isn't loaded, but it could be a lot of things. ENODEV means "No such device" |
| [03:26:35] | Paladine: | w00p I can record New Yankee Workshop on my PC now :) |
| [03:27:04] | Anduin: | darkdrgn2k: huh? |
| [03:27:04] | darkdrgn2k: | Dwonis: funny thing is the drive is loaded.. hmm |
| [03:27:08] | AngryElf: | hobophobe, that's nice, and works temporarily until i start mythbackend back up |
| [03:27:15] | AngryElf: | then it's all static again |
| [03:27:33] | darkdrgn2k: | AngryElf: probably cuase the backend chagned the channel |
| [03:27:44] | darkdrgn2k: | AngryElf: amke sure u set up a start channel in your setup |
| [03:28:10] | AngryElf: | yes, it's started — that's another thing, it only autodects about 10 channels, all of which are low number, crap channels anyways |
| [03:28:16] | AngryElf: | i.e. it's not autodetecting channels correctly |
| [03:31:22] | hjohnson: | damnit |
| [03:31:25] | hjohnson: | sigh |
| [03:31:34] | hobophobe: | Dwonis, not sure if it's the same kind of compander but someone has informed me that ALSA supports companding via the library/kernel modules ? |
| [03:31:37] | ** hjohnson ponders making a passively cooled big-ass computer ** | |
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| [03:31:57] | hobophobe: | ie using either alaw or 'mulaw'(?) among possibly others |
| [03:32:14] | hjohnson: | hobophobe: those are fixed companding curves |
| [03:32:26] | hjohnson: | you wouldn't want to use those for cd quality type audio |
| [03:32:46] | hobophobe: | ah |
| [03:33:06] | hobophobe: | Well their alternative suggestion was SoX, so I'm not sure if there's an ideal option. |
| [03:33:10] | hjohnson: | (the point of a-law and mu-law is to put the most bit precision in the power levels normally exchanged. |
| [03:33:55] | hjohnson: | i'm also a telecom geek, which is where a-law and mu-law come from |
| [03:34:42] | hobophobe: | yeah, the person described the term compander to someone else in #debian as "a telephony signals geek term for 'codec'" :o) |
| [03:36:22] | Dwonis: | hobophobe: that doesn't sound right. Well, it might be, but not in this context. |
| [03:36:41] | hobophobe: | yeah |
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| [03:38:29] | AngryElf: | yup, mythbackend can't tune channels correctly — and it's definitly not ivtv, cause ivtv-tune makes it work |
| [03:38:33] | AngryElf: | mythBE breaks it |
| [03:41:40] | defaultro: | anyone here does QAM256 via comcast? |
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| [03:50:14] | hjohnson: | hobophobe: yeah, that's not really correct |
| [03:50:22] | hjohnson: | a compander is a combination compressor and expander. |
| [03:50:43] | hjohnson: | a compressor shrinks the sound presure difference between quiet and loud, while an expander does the oposite. |
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| [03:51:46] | hjohnson: | (incidentally this is why commercials sound so much louder than tv shows.. the operators know that the brain interprets compression as loudness, so they compress the hell out of it and fool the brain) |
| [03:52:07] | hjohnson: | if you look at a sonogram of tv signals, it's blatently obvious |
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| [03:54:10] | hobophobe: | hjohnson, but since not all commercials do it it wouldn't be a reliable flagging method? |
| [03:54:24] | hobophobe: | (and I guess because occasionally content might do it?) |
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| [04:03:08] | ShockValue: | or alternatively, they just broadcast the commercials with the sound volume shifted up? |
| [04:04:26] | ShockValue: | like new CD recording VS. old ones.. the new have less dynamic range, because they're all crunched up at the higher volume levels |
| [04:09:59] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'd like to have the flagger use audio information to help flag commercials. was hoping the SoC project guy would get some headway in that, but he didn't work out too well. |
| [04:10:48] | Captain_Murdoch: | it doesn't have to be all commercials, it would just be used as an indicator of a possible commercial, like all the other methods that are used now. |
| [04:11:00] | Dagmar: | It'll probably start flagging any time Gilber Godfried speaks as a commercial then |
| [04:11:31] | Captain_Murdoch: | that's why the flagger doesn't use any one method, it uses a combination of all, weighting each one. |
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| [04:12:36] | Captain_Murdoch: | and what I would do would be to have it look at the avg min over the existing detected blocks, or between periods of silence. |
| [04:12:40] | AngryElf: | so, i set up an "External" channel change script and stuck it in each of my tuners that just does ivtv-tune --channel |
| [04:12:48] | AngryElf: | since mbe can't change channels correctly, at least that can |
| [04:16:02] | hjohnson: | ooh |
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| [04:16:06] | hjohnson: | sexy motherboard.... |
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| [04:17:10] | giovani: | Captain_Murdoch: maybe one day we'll have commercial organizations that create audio/video signatures for commercials so they can be accurately detected — just like spam |
| [04:17:54] | hjohnson: | damn, pentium ms are pricey |
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| [04:28:09] | Pandra: | A typeo in a script set my clock two months into the future. After a quick reset of the clock, I noticed that my tv tuner is now marked as busy for the next 14 days. Any help/pointers on fixing this? (I did check the mailing list archive already). |
| [04:31:17] | ShockValue: | reboot? |
| [04:31:38] | ShockValue: | or, at least restart mythbackend |
| [04:32:04] | Pandra: | nope. same results. dumped the channel listings and reloaded, same problem. |
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| [04:45:05] | WAR_CH|LD: | guys, more a general linux question |
| [04:45:08] | WAR_CH|LD: | but i'm ssh'd into my box |
| [04:45:25] | WAR_CH|LD: | and I would like to load up an application for someone on the desktop/screen |
| [04:45:32] | WAR_CH|LD: | but me running the command... ho would I do that? |
| [04:45:44] | Dagmar: | Usually it involves fingers. |
| [04:45:51] | WAR_CH|LD: | fingers? |
| [04:54:28] | WAR_CH|LD: | export DISPLAY=:0.0 |
| [04:54:35] | WAR_CH|LD: | tahts the one. :) I knew it was simple. :P |
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| [05:05:55] | sigger_: | just starting to run KnoppMyth as a livecd on an older lappy. it wont run either xine or mplayer saying +/- '/tmp/mcop-knoppix is owned by user'. ring a bell to anyone? |
| [05:17:06] | e4: | I just installed the old Mythdora, with an Hauppauge PVR-500 MCE, and my system is crashing when I attempt to watch tv. Anyone else ever experience this? |
| [05:19:29] | Dagmar: | Lots of people, I'm sure. |
| [05:20:02] | Dagmar: | ...in part because it's old. |
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| [05:20:48] | e4: | Dagmar, heh |
| [05:20:59] | e4: | actually I've spoken to you a couple of different stages along this |
| [05:21:17] | e4: | tried FC5, rebuilt FC5, Knoppmyth now, with different version of mythtv |
| [05:21:44] | e4: | I don't think it's hardware as I basically switched the entire system out |
| [05:21:59] | Dagmar: | I've been telling you there's nothing wrong with the PVR-500 |
| [05:23:17] | e4: | heh guess I'll wait until the knoppmyth gets done to see what happens there |
| [05:23:49] | e4: | is the preemptive kernel locking the only kernel tweak you know of? |
| [05:24:21] | Dagmar: | It's not a kernel tweak |
| [05:24:39] | Dagmar: | It's a part of the kernel you must DISABLE because it's incompatible with the ivtv drivers. |
| [05:24:58] | e4: | right, but is that the only part you have to mess with |
| [05:25:16] | Dagmar: | ...and again, if you're not using ivtv-0.7.0 and kernel 2.6.17.13 then you have a serious reading comprehension problem |
| [05:26:01] | Dagmar: | Everything else about the configuration will be business as usual |
| [05:26:58] | e4: | yeah, still have issues, wierd |
| [05:27:07] | e4: | might just have a defective card |
| [05:27:28] | Dagmar: | Doubtful |
| [05:27:30] | Dagmar: | Is it sharing IRQs with any other card? |
| [05:27:39] | e4: | heh took everything but that out |
| [05:27:44] | Dagmar: | The motherboard would probably be cheaper to replace |
| [05:27:56] | Dagmar: | ...and the motherboard is likely the problem. |
| [05:29:40] | FinnTux: | is there a wayt to make "Video Scan" to stay on "Progressive"? |
| [05:29:43] | FinnTux: | in OSD menu |
| [05:30:19] | Dagmar: | Is your output a CRT/LCD or a TV? |
| [05:30:23] | FinnTux: | TV |
| [05:30:39] | FinnTux: | widescreen 100 Hz Sony |
| [05:30:53] | Dagmar: | ...and you have what against interlacing on a television? |
| [05:31:18] | FinnTux: | nomego_, nothing against it but OSD menu flickers |
| [05:31:22] | FinnTux: | damn TAB |
| [05:31:28] | FinnTux: | no I meant |
| [05:31:58] | Dagmar: | Hmm... weird. Mine never flickered, but I guess if it's a fancy set that does HD nnnp modes just setting it for progressive should make it stay |
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| [05:33:18] | FinnTux: | it stays until I exit live TV or watching recordings |
| [05:33:31] | FinnTux: | goes to "Detect" again |
| [05:33:50] | Dagmar: | Sounds like a bug, then. File a bug report. |
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| [05:36:04] | mactenchi: | i'm having problems building 0.20 plugins |
| [05:36:29] | mactenchi: | usr/bin/ld: warning: libmythavutil-0.20.so.0, needed by /usr/local/mythtv-0.20/lib/libmythtv-0.20.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) |
| [05:37:49] | Dagmar: | Did you bother to install mythtv-0.20 first? |
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| [05:38:18] | mactenchi: | yup :) |
| [05:38:30] | Dagmar: | So how many versions of mythTV does that make installed at once? |
| [05:39:21] | mactenchi: | 0.19 is in /usr/local/mythtv-0.19 |
| [05:39:28] | mactenchi: | .20 in .20 |
| [05:39:53] | Dagmar: | So, out of curiousity, did you remember to change your path and put /usr/local/mythtv-0.20/lib/ into /etc/ld.so.conf? |
| [05:40:31] | mactenchi: | --prefix doesn't handle that? |
| [05:40:46] | Dagmar: | Look in /etc/ld.so.conf and see. |
| [05:41:36] | FinnTux: | Dagmar, so it is supposed to stay on whatever user selects? even after restarts? |
| [05:41:49] | Dagmar: | FinnTux: Almost all the settings of that type "stick" |
| [05:41:55] | Dagmar: | I'm actually suprised that one doesn't. |
| [05:41:59] | Dagmar: | They really all should. |
| [05:42:00] | FinnTux: | rgr |
| [05:42:19] | mactenchi: | it's pointing at the 0.19 |
| [05:42:23] | Dagmar: | If it's something the user has to set, then it should be reasonable to assume they set it _right_ and keep that setting. |
| [05:42:41] | Dagmar: | mactenchi: Yeah, it helps when you actually configure your machine correctly. |
| [05:43:08] | mactenchi: | i didn't have to twiddle this file during the 0.19 install |
| [05:43:11] | mactenchi: | what's changed? |
| [05:43:18] | Dagmar: | Your medication level. |
| [05:43:33] | FinnTux: | lol, mactenchi someone added it there for sure |
| [05:43:34] | mactenchi: | that's hardly an reasonable explanation. |
| [05:43:36] | Dagmar: | I can assure you that the build scripts don't modify your /etc/ld.so.conf. You added that. |
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| [05:44:27] | word: | hey....the database doesn't wanna configure itself.. |
| [05:45:26] | Dagmar: | It's all the buddhists. |
| [05:45:29] | word: | erm meaning mythtv-database seems to not get access to mysql..and can't do anything.. |
| [05:45:40] | Dagmar: | 'ja run mythtv-setup? |
| [05:45:41] | word: | so mythtv can't install either...so.... |
| [05:45:55] | word: | i've already had it set up i'm upgradng from .19 to .20 |
| [05:45:58] | word: | do i need to run it again? |
| [05:46:00] | Dagmar: | Ouch |
| [05:46:05] | Dagmar: | Nope, you shouldn't have to |
| [05:46:23] | word: | well i can tell it's using a wrong password for any user on mysql... |
| [05:46:29] | Dagmar: | What kinda messages are you getting out of the backend log? |
| [05:46:33] | word: | i suppose if i could find out where it's getting that from.. |
| [05:47:23] | word: | ah must've overwrote my /usr/share/mysql.txt just filled it in with correct pass |
| [05:48:02] | word: | wha..it overwrote the file again..so it failed again...stupid thing.. |
| [05:48:51] | word: | wait..blah it didn't overwrite the file... |
| [05:49:41] | word: | Dagmar: the backend isn't on right now should it be? |
| [05:49:54] | Dagmar: | You would even try to run the frontend without the backend? |
| [05:52:15] | word: | Dagmar: i can start mythfrontend |
| [05:52:26] | word: | i apparently can no longer start the backend though |
| [05:54:38] | FinnTux: | word, what user are you running backend as? check that user's $HOME/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [05:55:10] | Dagmar: | word: Typically you test whether or not the backend will run first, since the frontend can't be used without it |
| [05:55:45] | word: | FinnTux: correct password is in there too..just not wherever mythtv-database is looking |
| [05:56:28] | word: | Dagmar: well frontend runs just can't do anything yah >< |
| [05:57:05] | Dagmar: | word: What's mythtv-database? |
| [05:57:37] | word: | a package...that comes with the .20 update.. |
| [05:58:20] | Dagmar: | So what are you running adn what error are you getting? |
| [05:58:29] | Dagmar: | We don't care about whatver crackheaded package name someone came up with |
| [05:58:32] | Dagmar: | it's not useful |
| [05:59:09] | word: | lol ok the error is..it's using some default random password xasdfpod98 or whatever and mine is different. I found one location with that incorrect password but changing it didn't do the trick it must be looking somewhere else for that pass |
| [05:59:31] | word: | so when mythtv-database tries to modify the database for the upgrade, it fails because it doesn't have the right pass |
| [05:59:53] | word: | I 'could' change the password to the wrong one it's using..but that would muck up everything else |
| [06:00:05] | Dagmar: | It looks for mysql.txt in /usr/local/share/mythtv /usr/share/mythtv /etc/mythtv /usr/local/etc/mythtv /root/.mythtv |
| [06:00:14] | Dagmar: | ...and the order there might even be right still |
| [06:02:53] | word: | the places of those that exist are all set to the right pass :-/ |
| [06:05:15] | word: | hmm.. |
| [06:06:57] | word: | Dagmar: i'm just gonna search my entire hd for a file named mysql.txt containing the incorrect password |
| [06:07:12] | word: | hopefully i'll find something.. |
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| [06:35:47] | word: | Dagmar: nope only those files with the passwords right :-/ |
| [06:37:25] | word: | i'll get on this tommorrow i guess...g'nite all |
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| [07:17:53] | Puh: | i'm trying to set up a manual recording with mythweb and i get: |
| [07:17:54] | Puh: | error string: SQL Error: Column 'seriesid' cannot be null [#1048] |
| [07:17:55] | Puh: | filename: /var/www/mythweb/includes/objects/Database_Query_mysql.php |
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| [07:24:09] | sphery: | Puh: still there? |
| [07:24:17] | Puh: | yep |
| [07:25:01] | sphery: | If you edit mythweb's includes/recording_schedules.php on line 282 and change |
| [07:25:11] | sphery: | this->seriesid, |
| [07:25:12] | sphery: | to |
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| [07:25:37] | sphery: | _or($this->seriesid, 0), |
| [07:25:40] | sphery: | does it work? |
| [07:25:52] | Puh: | just a sec, i'll try |
| [07:26:56] | johnny: | i've finally almost got mythtv going myself |
| [07:27:07] | johnny: | has anybody seen an instance where the program guide is off by 1 ? |
| [07:27:16] | johnny: | channel wise |
| [07:28:10] | sphery: | Puh: for reference, see the patch at http://pastebin.ca/168724 |
| [07:29:28] | Puh: | ok now i'm getting this: error string: SQL Error: Column 'programid' cannot be null [#1048] |
| [07:30:02] | adante: | johnny: how many channels are you displaying in the program guide? |
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| [07:30:14] | johnny: | at 1 time? or in total? |
| [07:30:29] | samborambo: | hi everyone |
| [07:30:44] | johnny: | at 1 time : 4 |
| [07:30:49] | johnny: | total : 74 |
| [07:32:08] | sphery: | Puh: can you make the next line (#283) look the same (except with programid instead of seriesid) |
| [07:32:15] | Puh: | ok will do |
| [07:33:19] | samborambo: | I've got an intermittent problem with livetv. Sometimes after rebooting, livetv becomes blurry. I've tried fiddling with the deinterlace settings, etc. but to no avail. Sometimes after restarting ivtv and the backend it fixes itself but most of the time not. Can anyone help please? |
| [07:33:47] | Puh: | sphery, seems to work now, thanks |
| [07:33:51] | sphery: | johnny: what if you set Channels to Display to 5 (the default) |
| [07:34:06] | johnny: | hmm.. i can try |
| [07:34:08] | johnny: | brb |
| [07:34:18] | sphery: | Puh: OK. Thanks for the update. I'll make sure xris sees the patch... |
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| [07:37:51] | johnny: | nope |
| [07:37:59] | johnny: | same thing |
| [07:38:48] | sphery: | Puh: Issue has been reported ( http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2366#comment:5 ) |
| [07:39:20] | johnny: | then i just have to redo my xvmc setting.. |
| [07:39:25] | sphery: | OK, johnny, now we need to find out if it's your data or just the display of the data that's incorrect. |
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| [07:39:59] | sphery: | Do you have MythWeb installed? |
| [07:40:15] | johnny: | hmm.. lemme see |
| [07:40:29] | johnny: | yep |
| [07:40:44] | sphery: | OK, if you use it to view the program listings, does it have the right programs on the right channels? |
| [07:40:54] | johnny: | guess i have to configure it |
| [07:41:13] | sphery: | You could also look using the mysql client |
| [07:48:48] | sphery: | If the MythWeb will take some time to fix up, you could use something like: |
| [07:48:53] | sphery: | select channum, title, subtitle from channel left join program on (channel.chanid = program.chanid) where starttime between '2006-09–13 20:00:00' and '2006-09–13 22:00:00'G |
| [07:48:56] | johnny: | well i have incompatible program version |
| [07:49:10] | johnny: | err protocol |
| [07:49:12] | sphery: | to get all the data for tonight from 8:00 to 10:00 |
| [07:49:32] | sphery: | Same version of MythTV as MythWeb? |
| [07:50:44] | johnny: | i thought it was.. |
| [07:50:59] | johnny: | imma check on that in a moment |
| [07:52:18] | johnny: | ok.. that's wrong |
| [07:52:24] | johnny: | so it's not the program guide then |
| [07:53:29] | johnny: | i had just gotten my icons working |
| [07:53:30] | johnny: | :) |
| [07:54:41] | johnny: | i've tried clearing the listings |
| [07:54:45] | johnny: | and deleting the channels |
| [07:54:53] | johnny: | and running the mythfilldatabase command |
| [07:55:41] | sphery: | I've heard of it happening a lot. I don't know what causes it, but the best approach for fixing it is deleting all the video sources (with the Delete All button), the re-creating video sources and channels, and associating sources to inputs, |
| [07:56:02] | johnny: | so uhmm..what's the chance it will stay fixed? :) |
| [07:56:12] | sphery: | Make sure when you create the channels they get an appropriate xmltvid |
| [07:56:24] | johnny: | yeah i noticed that they didn't the first few times i ran it |
| [07:56:24] | sphery: | If you do, then it should read in the data correctly and it should stay fixed. |
| [07:56:34] | johnny: | but i thought it was fixed now :) |
| [07:56:39] | johnny: | ok.. going off to try |
| [07:56:40] | sphery: | You need to have it before you run mythfilldatabase. |
| [07:56:48] | sphery: | I'll probably be gone |
| [07:56:53] | sphery: | almost 4:00am here... |
| [07:56:56] | johnny: | do i have to rerun the icon thing again? |
| [07:56:57] | sphery: | good luck |
| [07:56:57] | johnny: | yeah same here |
| [07:57:20] | sphery: | Once you delete all, you'll lose all your channels, too, so you'll have to do the icons again. |
| [07:57:24] | johnny: | and do i have to clear the database? |
| [07:57:31] | johnny: | or will mythfilldatabase automatically do that? |
| [07:57:32] | sphery: | Delete all does that. |
| [07:57:35] | johnny: | i haven't recorded anything yet.. |
| [07:57:37] | johnny: | ok.. |
| [07:57:40] | sphery: | (That's why it's the best approach to use) |
| [07:57:41] | johnny: | well.. thanks then |
| [07:57:51] | sphery: | Oh, and it doesn't delete any recording info. |
| [07:58:05] | sphery: | What grabber do you use for mythfilldatabase? |
| [07:58:34] | sphery: | or where do you live? |
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| [08:07:35] | johnny: | the datadirect service |
| [08:07:42] | johnny: | it seems to be correct now |
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| [08:10:14] | Kelerion: | morning |
| [08:17:07] | FinnTux: | anyone having speed problems with mythweb recorded programs page? |
| [08:18:05] | sphery: | johnny: glad you got it. |
| [08:18:42] | FinnTux: | seems like thumbnails in data/cache are created everytime rhe page is opened |
| [08:18:44] | sphery: | was just going to say for US grabber you should define channels with "Fetch channels from listings provider" button |
| [08:19:03] | sphery: | FinnTux: what version of Myth |
| [08:19:13] | FinnTux: | 0.20-fixes |
| [08:19:24] | FinnTux: | got it from svn yesterday |
| [08:19:40] | FinnTux: | actually I had the same problem with 0.19 |
| [08:19:50] | FinnTux: | but I just disabled thumbnails |
| [08:20:09] | sphery: | Does it succeed in displaying the thumbnails? |
| [08:20:14] | FinnTux: | yes |
| [08:21:02] | Kelerion: | how many recordings you got in there? |
| [08:21:14] | FinnTux: | 112 |
| [08:21:25] | Kelerion: | and how long does it take? |
| [08:21:35] | FinnTux: | I'll check... |
| [08:22:36] | enyc: | |Torg| erm... o |
| [08:22:38] | enyc: | Unrecognized option: --verbose |
| [08:22:48] | enyc: | darn |Torg| gone |
| [08:23:07] | FinnTux: | 1 minute |
| [08:23:15] | FinnTux: | give or take a second |
| [08:23:30] | Kelerion: | how do you know it's redoing the cache on every load of the page? |
| [08:24:21] | FinnTux: | actually I'm not sure about that anymore – I suppose 'ls -l' shows access time |
| [08:24:30] | FinnTux: | not creation time |
| [08:25:07] | Kelerion: | I've not tested it with that many recordings in before... I know it's not *super* quick anyways.. so that might be around right for that many recordings |
| [08:25:12] | FinnTux: | well, it is last-modified time |
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| [08:26:06] | FinnTux: | mythbackend.log shows that all files are opened and examined, this is correct right? |
| [08:26:34] | Kelerion: | I'd think so yes |
| [08:27:23] | Kelerion: | does it do that every time? or just when it's building the thumbnails? |
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| [08:30:11] | FinnTux: | now it took about 50 secs after I deleted all files in data/cache |
| [08:30:38] | Kelerion: | ok.. and now when you refresh that page.. does the backend still open all the files again? |
| [08:31:10] | FinnTux: | yes |
| [08:31:28] | Kelerion: | well either thats a bug or it's doing it for a reason |
| [08:31:51] | Kelerion: | could just be checking they are all still there and having expired I suppose |
| [08:31:56] | Kelerion: | haven't |
| [08:32:10] | FinnTux: | [mpegts @ 0xb7402700]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94211 ! |
| [08:32:18] | FinnTux: | ^few of those messages in the log |
| [08:32:37] | Kelerion: | not sure.. got a couple of dicky recordings? |
| [08:32:39] | johnny: | ok.. now i just have to figure out the deal with xvmc |
| [08:32:48] | johnny: | got some errors in the terminal where i started mythfrontend |
| [08:33:03] | FinnTux: | they seem to work in frontend |
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| [08:33:20] | FinnTux: | but could be |
| [08:33:29] | Kelerion: | well like I said.. it might be around right for that many recordings |
| [08:33:34] | FinnTux: | k |
| [08:34:49] | Kelerion: | plus mythweb is undergoing major rewrites at the moment.. so they might be planning on optimising it further too |
| [08:35:19] | FinnTux: | without pixmaps it opens instantly |
| [08:35:43] | Anduin: | FinnTux: check your mythweb/data/cache dir |
| [08:35:57] | Kelerion: | well a 112 thumbnails is quite a lot of work for apache and your browser to deal with |
| [08:36:27] | FinnTux: | Kelerion, but if there are pictures already it shouldn't take that long to display them |
| [08:36:45] | DGnome: | errm, where exactly is the OSD channel editor? :) can't find it |
| [08:36:59] | FinnTux: | Kelerion, server is 2x2.2 GHz xeon and I'm connected via gigabit ethernet |
| [08:37:21] | FinnTux: | Anduin, it looks ok to me |
| [08:37:45] | FinnTux: | owned by www-data and it is readable/writable |
| [08:38:23] | FinnTux: | should mythtv user have write privileges? |
| [08:39:46] | Anduin: | FinnTux: Are there files there? |
| [08:40:05] | FinnTux: | yes, png files |
| [08:40:23] | FinnTux: | -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 31819 2006-09–13 11:32 1007_20060910200000.mpg.png |
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| [08:44:30] | Anduin: | FinnTux: Yeah, that looks good. Unless the image it out of date on the backend it shouldn't be regenerated (when you see those AFD messages) |
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| [08:45:05] | FinnTux: | what makes image out of date? |
| [08:45:48] | Anduin: | FinnTux: If you have the generate from bookmark option a change to the bookmark would, otherwise, nothing once it is generated. |
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| [08:50:41] | FinnTux: | Anduin, ok. I'll try to find out later what is wrong |
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| [09:56:18] | veritanuda: | Morning All... |
| [09:56:45] | veritanuda: | Been getting a very odd linker error compiling mythplugins.. |
| [09:57:09] | veritanuda: | I had a similar error with mythtv but upgraded the libGl libs and it went away. |
| [09:57:33] | veritanuda: | Trouble is I have tried that on this occasion with no joy.. |
| [09:57:42] | veritanuda: | any idea what libs my be suspect? |
| [09:58:40] | veritanuda: | It is up on pastebin if anyone is interested? |
| [09:58:56] | qu0zl: | has anybody noticed that pressing skip back in rapid succession or skip forward with 0.19-fixes (from a month or so back), and ivtv 0.4.6 causes the backend to lockup? |
| [09:59:06] | qu0zl: | anybody found a solution? |
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| [10:01:26] | Dagmar: | No because no one's still using 0.4.6 |
| [10:01:32] | veritanuda: | Ok pastebin giving me grief again.. |
| [10:01:50] | Dagmar: | try pastebin.ca |
| [10:01:51] | veritanuda: | so it is up on javapaste instead |
| [10:02:32] | veritanuda: | http://rifers.org/paste/show/1759 |
| [10:03:54] | Dagmar: | veritanuda: wtf platform are you building on? |
| [10:04:46] | veritanuda: | Mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ |
| [10:04:47] | Dagmar: | It's been ages since I've seen bfd complain aobut anything |
| [10:05:04] | veritanuda: | Well happend to me twice.. oddily enough.. |
| [10:05:19] | Dagmar: | What version of "GL" are you using? |
| [10:05:29] | veritanuda: | once during the mythtv build but I sorted that by relinking against newer libGL libs. |
| [10:05:51] | Dagmar: | Is this Debian Stable or something/ |
| [10:06:06] | Dagmar: | Maybe XFree 3.3.6? |
| [10:06:11] | qu0zl: | Dagmar, 0.4.6 is the latest for kernels of 2.6.15 or under |
| [10:06:33] | qu0zl: | it's the same as the other versions just for an older kernel |
| [10:06:36] | Dagmar: | qu0zl: You really want 2.6.17.x and 0.7.0, but basically ivtv isn't involved in playback in the lest |
| [10:06:39] | veritanuda: | libGl.so.1.2 |
| [10:06:42] | Dagmar: | s/lest/least/ |
| [10:06:59] | Dagmar: | veritanuda: What kind of video card are you using? |
| [10:07:09] | qu0zl: | ahh good point Dagmar, this happens with non live stuff too, so yeah no ivtv involvement, thanks |
| [10:07:59] | Dagmar: | qu0zl: If you're able, you definitely probably want to go ahead and update to 0.20 |
| [10:08:24] | Dagmar: | veritanuda: See, basically my problem is this... Normally you never have to dork around with libGL (i.e., Mesa) directly anymore |
| [10:08:39] | qu0zl: | last resort there, the only stable mythtv i've had was .18.1. GF still hasn;t forgiven me for jumping to .19 when it came out :) |
| [10:08:50] | Dagmar: | veritanuda: So basically, what I'm fishing for is "which of the things you have is old as dirt" |
| [10:08:52] | qu0zl: | .19-fixes is pretty stable |
| [10:09:02] | Dagmar: | qu0zl: Well, 0.20 is basically that |
| [10:09:40] | qu0zl: | k, thanks Dagmar |
| [10:09:56] | Dagmar: | I only have like two minor issues with it so far |
| [10:10:06] | Dagmar: | One of which I think maybe I can fix with a judicious rebuild |
| [10:10:44] | Dagmar: | One is only even noticeable because I've got good eyes. The way the GANT theme has a "mythtv" watermark that fades in and out on the menu backgrounds makes the fade between menus screw up a little |
| [10:11:07] | Dagmar: | The other is that about a third of the time, liveTV doesn't immediately present me with a picture. Sound, but no picture. I can exit and come right back and it'll work tho |
| [10:11:22] | Dagmar: | I need to explore that problem space a little more when I get home this morning |
| [10:11:59] | Dagmar: | There's a lot of stuff in 0.20 that wasn't going on last week even in SVN so I very much like it overall |
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| [10:12:11] | slaine_: | Is there any backend migration issues to consider, going from 0.19-fixes to 0.20 |
| [10:12:15] | Dagmar: | Nope |
| [10:12:22] | slaine_: | Or should it be a drop in replacement |
| [10:12:27] | qu0zl: | stability is my only real concern though as all the functionality i've wanted has been in since .19 |
| [10:12:32] | Dagmar: | If there are, it did a damn good job of making the transition without bothering me |
| [10:12:39] | FinnTux: | upgrade went without problems for me |
| [10:12:44] | slaine_: | Cool |
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| [10:13:06] | slaine_: | I think I'll risk it when I get time. Want to get it sorted and stable before the new season starts on Sky |
| [10:13:09] | FinnTux: | master backend, one slave backend/frontend and one frontend |
| [10:13:23] | FinnTux: | ^I mean thats my system |
| [10:14:09] | FinnTux: | and it really is worth upgrading |
| [10:18:37] | qu0zl: | anybody tried out the new 200mbit powerplug ethernet-over-power devices yet? |
| [10:19:00] | qu0zl: | slaine_'s too cheap to buy one and tell me if they're worth getting :( |
| [10:19:19] | slaine_: | lol |
| [10:19:23] | Dagmar: | I don't know what market they're aiming for with that one |
| [10:19:28] | slaine_: | It's the other way around you bum |
| [10:19:36] | Dagmar: | Maybe the same people who buy Athlon FX CPUs |
| [10:19:40] | Dagmar: | "More money than sense" |
| [10:20:14] | slaine_: | Dagmar, the Ethernet-over-power adaptors ? |
| [10:20:49] | qu0zl: | i've no cabling and wireless is a bit pants for a decent backend with a big disk array. Hoping the newer powerplugs might be good enough |
| [10:21:13] | qu0zl: | they're expensive for sure |
| [10:21:39] | slaine_: | Less expensive than running CAT5 around the house though |
| [10:24:11] | qu0zl: | hmm wonder how much that would cost for a tiny gaff like mine. I'd have to get holes knocked in the wall and replastered and all that shite |
| [10:24:17] | veritanuda: | Ok sorted.. conflicting versions of libGL in X11R6/lib and /usr/lib |
| [10:24:25] | veritanuda: | both 1.2 though ;) |
| [10:24:28] | veritanuda: | hey ho.. |
| [10:24:41] | veritanuda: | Cheers for all your help peeps.. on with the build.. |
| [10:28:46] | Dagmar: | Ahh.... |
| [10:28:58] | Dagmar: | slaine_: Well, there's wireless. |
| [10:29:09] | Dagmar: | The main problem I have with it is 100base-T is almost too much for the average household right now |
| [10:29:32] | Dagmar: | ...and if you OWN a place and can do it yourself, you can just run GigE anywhere you like without that much trouble |
| [10:29:57] | Dagmar: | In theory I could maybe be in trouble with my landlord for having replaced the phone wiring with cat6 ethernet, but I doubt it |
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| [10:31:11] | Dagmar: | Even cat6 cable is less than 50 cents a foot on a bad day |
| [10:31:31] | slaine_: | Dagmar, everything I've read and heard from people who do it says that wireless is mixed at best and doesn't deliver at worst |
| [10:31:59] | Dagmar: | Yeah, that's partly true, but it mainly depends on what your house is made of, and how far the runs are |
| [10:32:13] | slaine_: | nod |
| [10:32:42] | Dagmar: | If you can put the AP in the smack middle of the structure, a dual-antenna one will usually cover one whole apartment or 2–3 bdrm home wihtout a hitch |
| [10:33:17] | Dagmar: | If yer like, sticking it in the garage or the basement where it has to go through a lot of brick or metal, on one end of the house, yes it will suck |
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| [10:33:49] | k-man_: | im having real trouble getting tv_grab_au_reg to put the data into my myth |
| [10:33:59] | Dagmar: | But basically, cat5/cat6 is not much more trouble than running phone lines around the house |
| [10:34:03] | k-man_: | it runs ok, but no data on ABC or ABC2 |
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| [10:34:17] | k-man_: | or ten for that matter |
| [10:34:31] | Dagmar: | In most people's apartments, if i have to do it for them, I go for what should be a stunningly obvious solution to not punching through walls. |
| [10:34:41] | Dagmar: | Run the cable through the central heat/air ducts |
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| [10:35:47] | k-man_: | how does one track down why mytfilldatabase is not working? |
| [10:36:09] | Dagmar: | k-man: Check Zap2it's site and make sure you have those channels listed in your lineup |
| [10:36:23] | Dagmar: | Something has to be very very abnormally cooked for one channel of many to have no data |
| [10:36:36] | Dagmar: | It may be that you're just not getting any data from the provider |
| [10:40:13] | k-man_: | Dagmar, im in Australia |
| [10:40:27] | k-man_: | and im sure its something to do with the grabber's channel ids not matching mythtvs |
| [10:40:40] | k-man_: | i'm using tv_grab_au_reg |
| [10:40:43] | k-man_: | if that helps |
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| [10:42:22] | veritanuda: | slaine: Umm if I might add my experience with this.. For normal DVD playback etc Wireless is fine on a client by client basis. Get more than two clients and it tends to show. |
| [10:42:58] | veritanuda: | however a combination between Wifi and cabled works really nicely.. Least it does for me.. 3 clients one of which is wireless. |
| [10:43:35] | veritanuda: | of course there is no more than say about 20 meters through brick to worry about but dedicated WIfi can be used as part of a solution. |
| [10:50:20] | Dagmar: | k-man_: Well, as far as I know, Myth gets it's channel IDs from the database information itself |
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| [11:12:07] | TiTaN_pi8: | Hello |
| [11:12:45] | TiTaN_pi8: | The changelog for mythweb says there is a new 'streaming' module in mythweb, but I can't seem to find it anywhere on the mythweb pages :s or in the documentation |
| [11:21:58] | Juski: | what about in the wiki? |
| [11:23:47] | TiTaN_pi8: | no, not there either |
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| [11:29:28] | veritanuda: | hmmm I just got module not found from mythweb too.. |
| [11:29:32] | veritanuda: | lemme look at why. |
| [11:33:39] | TiTaN_pi8: | k |
| [11:34:53] | Juski: | you know about this don't you? "Whoops. A rather nasty little bug got checked in just before I made release last night that prevents mythweb from scheduling recordings."... |
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| [11:36:01] | TiTaN_pi8: | yes, I have the latest version of mythplugins |
| [11:36:05] | TiTaN_pi8: | 0.20a |
| [11:36:09] | Juski: | hokees |
| [11:36:18] | TiTaN_pi8: | :) |
| [11:36:37] | TiTaN_pi8: | great release IMO, 0.20 |
| [11:37:16] | TiTaN_pi8: | haven't had a chance to really test it, but I hope the multiple tuner support is a bit better |
| [11:38:42] | TiTaN_pi8: | like when I have a program scheduled for recording and I am watching live tv (with tuner 1 for example), mythtv would still always report to me that there is going to be a tuner conflict and that I have to stop watching livetv or cancel the recording instead of just taking the second tuner which is idle :s |
| [11:40:18] | ** Juski wonders what this "live tv" is ** | |
| [11:40:36] | qu0zl: | TiTaN_pi8, there is an option in the settings to try and avoid conflicts with live tv |
| [11:40:49] | qu0zl: | there has been since at least .19, probably earlier. it solved that for me |
| [11:41:00] | qu0zl: | it makes it use tuner 2 for watching live tv by default |
| [11:41:26] | qu0zl: | where exactly the setting is, I've no idea ;) |
| [11:41:39] | Juski: | just get more tuners :) |
| [11:41:50] | ** Sebulba02 points under that ------------> rock ** | |
| [11:41:50] | TiTaN_pi8: | qu0zl, yes I have seen that setting, I thought I had that enabled, but I am not sure |
| [11:44:00] | slaine_: | I've seen that error too, but that was 'cause I'd two programs scheduled for recording while watching tv |
| [11:44:39] | qu0zl: | i used to get it all the time before i turned on the setting, becuase if i was watching tv with tuner 1, but tuner 1 wasthe one scheduled to record a programme it wouldnt fall back to tuner 2 for it. |
| [11:45:24] | TiTaN_pi8: | qu0zl, exactly what I have. I probably don't have that setting enabled then... |
| [11:49:36] | Dagmar: | OH! |
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| [11:49:47] | Dagmar: | You need to tell Myth it's allowed to have a maximum of *two* jobs running |
| [11:50:02] | Dagmar: | It can know it has two tuners and think it's only allowed to use one at a time |
| [11:50:06] | Dagmar: | Yes, I know this seems a little odd. |
| [11:50:23] | Juski: | what? |
| [11:50:34] | Juski: | I always thought jobs were just that.. jobs |
| [11:50:41] | Dagmar: | I can't remember where the heck it was I set that, I've just gotten used to doing it all nearly blind by now |
| [11:50:43] | Juski: | or are recordings classed as 'jobs' now ? |
| [11:50:48] | Orpheus`: | Is this the right place to ask XMLTV related questions? I've got an XML file with guide data that isn't appearing in the Myth listings after a mythfilldatabase. |
| [11:51:21] | TiTaN_pi8: | I thought a job was transcoding or commercial flagging |
| [11:51:25] | Dagmar: | I *think* it was in mythtv-setup, but I can't be sure about it |
| [11:51:43] | TiTaN_pi8: | Dagmar, I also think it's in mythtv-setup |
| [11:51:48] | Juski: | Orpheus`: you need to have a file called <videosourcename>.xmltv in ~/.mythtv and your channels need to be assigned xmltv IDs. is that done.. have you checked? |
| [11:52:03] | Orpheus`: | Yes, it's importing some of the data, but not all |
| [11:53:07] | Orpheus`: | The command I'm running is: mythfilldatabase --file 0 -1 /tmp/guidedata_latest.xml |
| [11:54:23] | TiTaN_pi8: | the JobQueueMaxSimultaneousJobs setting is set to 1 on my backend box, gonna set it to 2 |
| [11:55:27] | Dagmar: | I remember seeing a caution on it, forgot about it, had the thing gimme crap about having no tuners available when only one recording was going... |
| [11:55:42] | Dagmar: | I just can't find where I saw it mentioned as the sole special thing to watch out for with a PVR-500 |
| [11:56:00] | Dagmar: | It may have gotten fixed for 0.19, I'm not sure |
| [11:56:41] | TiTaN_pi8: | does anybody know what the 'SmartChannelChange' setting does? |
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| [12:04:04] | Dagmar: | No idea |
| [12:04:17] | Dagmar: | No one's made a chart of what db items go with what menu entries |
| [12:04:24] | Dagmar: | That would acutally be useful. |
| [12:04:39] | Dagmar: | Someone could just write a web-based configurator and take a lot of annoying crap out of the frontend |
| [12:06:18] | LLyric: | Why don't you do that? |
| [12:07:05] | Dagmar: | Becuase I have no idea what db elements do what |
| [12:07:12] | tfm: | ;) |
| [12:07:24] | Dagmar: | I mean, I could make a CGI that would pick a DB entry and let you spin a wheel and set it to something random... |
| [12:07:36] | Dagmar: | ...that would be about as effective as what I know of what's going on inside the DB. |
| [12:07:45] | Dagmar: | I don't think many people would like that tho. |
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| [12:30:12] | k-man_: | anyone here using tv_grab_au_reg? |
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| [12:38:39] | TiTaN_pi8: | veritanuda, have you got some progress on the mythweb stream module? |
| [12:40:19] | veritanuda: | TitaN_pi8 No I am not quite sure where it is tripping up.. unless it is a perl module it is refering to.. but looking at handler.pl can't see any that come to mind. |
| [12:40:46] | TiTaN_pi8: | strange, maybe we should report it to one of the developers? |
| [12:41:29] | veritanuda: | Well what is stranger is that noone else seems to have an issue :P Maybe it is the way my webserver is set up.. not changed that in a long while .. |
| [12:41:45] | TiTaN_pi8: | same here |
| [12:42:09] | TiTaN_pi8: | but I don't have a link to the stream module on any mythweb page either |
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| [12:43:40] | GreyFoxx: | lol.I updated my frontends to latest svn and now the volours are blue shifted |
| [12:43:59] | Orpheus`: | All right, I appear to have a problem with mythfilldatabase and channel ids. When I import guide data from an XML file, it creates a set of new channels, even though the xmltvids are set correctly on my existing channels. Any ideas? |
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| [12:45:28] | FinnTux: | veritanuda, I'm also curious how to enable streaming module in mythweb? I'd like to test it too |
| [12:46:08] | veritanuda: | Working on it.. will let you know when I have it sorted. |
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| [12:47:32] | FinnTux: | ok |
| [13:01:29] | fryfrog: | is anyone around who does the network boot / nfs root? |
| [13:01:58] | ** FinnTux raises his hand ** | |
| [13:02:02] | fryfrog: | I was wondering, if I'm going to setup an almost identical system to the backend (ie, same cpu/arch) it wouldn't be to bad to build it in a chroot? |
| [13:02:15] | fryfrog: | instead of say, vmware or the actual system |
| [13:02:16] | FinnTux: | I doing that |
| [13:02:22] | fryfrog: | what distro do you use? |
| [13:02:25] | FinnTux: | debian |
| [13:02:28] | FinnTux: | stable |
| [13:02:50] | fryfrog: | I currently use gentoo, and have no problem building a nfs root... but it doesn't seem *ideal* due to the 2–3 day compile time ;p |
| [13:02:57] | FinnTux: | backend is 2xxeon and frontend is P3 |
| [13:03:21] | fryfrog: | wow, debian stable? |
| [13:03:34] | fryfrog: | do you use deb stable's myth? |
| [13:03:45] | fryfrog: | or just pull latest from... i dunno where |
| [13:03:49] | FinnTux: | nomego_, pulled from svn and compiled myself |
| [13:03:54] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [13:04:04] | FinnTux: | I have tested etch and sid too |
| [13:04:07] | FinnTux: | no problems |
| [13:04:22] | fryfrog: | I've been considering switching to Ubuntu, but its such a hastle to switch linuxi :) |
| [13:04:24] | FinnTux: | damn, howcome I always push TAB... |
| [13:04:35] | FinnTux: | nothing beats debian :) |
| [13:04:39] | fryfrog: | makes you feel more secure? |
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| [13:04:50] | fryfrog: | thats what i like about ubuntu! |
| [13:04:59] | fryfrog: | all the benefits of debian with... more fiber ? |
| [13:05:18] | fryfrog: | I played around with the ubuntu "LAMP" install |
| [13:05:29] | fryfrog: | neat idea, at least |
| [13:06:12] | FinnTux: | yea |
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| [13:07:30] | veritanuda: | Hmmm I think I have found the problem but not necessarily the solution ;) |
| [13:07:48] | FinnTux: | well, thats progress... |
| [13:08:43] | fryfrog: | what might one search for when wishing to read about this network boot stuff? |
| [13:08:55] | fryfrog: | the term is on the tip of my tongue :/ |
| [13:09:13] | FinnTux: | root over nfs+ |
| [13:09:15] | FinnTux: | ? |
| [13:09:48] | veritanuda: | It is to do with that section of mythweb.pl where it looks up the handlers. |
| [13:09:53] | veritanuda: | see pastebin.ca. |
| [13:10:24] | veritanuda: | The trouble is the php script does not point to a valid path when you select the stream. |
| [13:10:24] | fryfrog: | FinnTux: yeah, loading kernel over network card boot, root nfs, etc |
| [13:10:25] | halcyon: | PXE? |
| [13:10:34] | fryfrog: | that whole thing has a name, i just can't remember it ! |
| [13:10:38] | fryfrog: | thin clients? |
| [13:10:39] | fryfrog: | no |
| [13:10:43] | fryfrog: | damnit :( |
| [13:10:49] | veritanuda: | par example :/mythweb/pl/stream/1704/1158141600 |
| [13:10:49] | FinnTux: | thin client |
| [13:10:58] | FinnTux: | diskless client |
| [13:11:06] | fryfrog: | k, i'll try that :) |
| [13:11:24] | veritanuda: | it is the pl that throws it.. because it looks for the modules as a path. and it is in fact /mythweb/modules/stream |
| [13:11:29] | fryfrog: | i suspect it breaks down to configuring your dhcp server, running a tftp server and having an nfs shared root filesystem for each box? |
| [13:12:02] | veritanuda: | so as a quick hack I made a sim link of pl to the mythweb directory inside it.. Now I am getting permission errors for the file :) |
| [13:12:36] | veritanuda: | which is understandable gien that www-data has no read acccess to the myth/tv/lib/ dir. |
| [13:13:29] | veritanuda: | Can someone else try it and see if they have any better luck..I have to admit I am running mythweb over a ssh tunnel atm and so prolly not the most direct way of testing it :) |
| [13:14:04] | veritanuda: | ok I need to split.. gotta go out for a little bit.. |
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| [13:14:10] | veritanuda: | 'll check the logs when I get back |
| [13:20:50] | halcyon: | yeah, PXE – network boot, it's an extension of DHCP |
| [13:21:50] | fryfrog: | I think I'll try for some microatx with an nvidia dvi card built in |
| [13:21:52] | simon_c: | Hi all. What's a typical size for libmythtv-0.20.so.0.20.0 ? On my builds it's comming out at 49MB, which seems a little high. |
| [13:22:50] | FinnTux: | 2.9M |
| [13:23:23] | FinnTux: | 3.1M in the other machine |
| [13:23:43] | Ruleke: | 9.3 here |
| [13:23:56] | Ruleke: | sorry 8.9 :) |
| [13:25:34] | LLyric: | 15M here |
| [13:26:48] | FinnTux: | any pointers where I could find instructions on translating mythtv? |
| [13:26:58] | FinnTux: | or more like KDE programs |
| [13:28:45] | halcyon: | mine's 11M |
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| [13:37:24] | Cuddles_in_KY: | morning all. |
| [13:38:13] | Cuddles_in_KY: | i'm setting up a new mythbox, and i was wondering what the best distro to do so would be. any suggestions? i've tried both gentoo and ubuntu, but they failed miserably. |
| [13:39:34] | Ruleke: | err |
| [13:39:41] | Ruleke: | maybe knoppmyth is more for you ? |
| [13:39:52] | Ruleke: | no 0.20 version yet though |
| [13:39:56] | Cuddles_in_KY: | tried it. kept crashing. |
| [13:40:22] | Ruleke: | heh |
| [13:40:32] | halcyon: | hmm, I've had 0 problems with ubuntu, running .20-fixes now. |
| [13:40:40] | Ruleke: | debian myself |
| [13:41:03] | Ruleke: | though I doubt it's the distro that would cause crashes tbh :) |
| [13:42:04] | Cuddles_in_KY: | well, the hardware is all in good shape. gentoo just flat out refused to install, and ubuntu stops booting right after "starting hotplug" with a solid freeze. |
| [13:42:35] | Cuddles_in_KY: | had slack on this system with no trouble, but i'm not sure about it working with myth. |
| [13:42:58] | qu0zl: | you can run mythtv on slackware |
| [13:44:14] | Cuddles_in_KY: | easy to set up? |
| [13:44:28] | GreyFoxx: | Define easy |
| [13:44:42] | GreyFoxx: | to me a simple ./configure;make;make install is easy |
| [13:44:49] | fryfrog: | Cuddles_in_KY: I've heard Fedora is a good one, are there still good guides? |
| [13:45:05] | Cuddles_in_KY: | fryfrog, i've never used fedora. |
| [13:45:12] | fryfrog: | I don't think *any* distro is going to be *easy* to get myth working, as myth is quite complicated |
| [13:45:17] | fryfrog: | fedora ~~ redhat |
| [13:45:19] | halcyon: | I used Fedora before Ubuntu, seems less stable to me, but that's just me |
| [13:45:27] | halcyon: | it's just what you're comfortable with |
| [13:45:29] | GreyFoxx: | Dagmar: Has or is making slackwre packages as well |
| [13:45:31] | quicksilver: | the 'complicated part' of myth 0.20 tends to be your hardware and drivers |
| [13:45:34] | quicksilver: | not the actual myth bit |
| [13:45:38] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [13:45:38] | fryfrog: | As a newbie with linux *and* myth, i'd say fedora or ubuntu |
| [13:45:39] | Cuddles_in_KY: | hmm... |
| [13:45:42] | quicksilver: | the actual myth bit just compiles and installs fine |
| [13:45:48] | quicksilver: | it's the X display drivers and the DVB drivers |
| [13:45:53] | Cuddles_in_KY: | think i'll try it with slack |
| [13:45:53] | quicksilver: | or whatever |
| [13:46:06] | Cuddles_in_KY: | thanks folks. |
| [13:46:15] | fryfrog: | yeah, its the hardware drivers, mysql, etc, etc that is hard :) |
| [13:46:25] | fryfrog: | so the best distro is the one you are most familiar with :) |
| [13:46:45] | quicksilver: | personally I'm surprised ubuntu didn't work out, that's the one I always recommend to newbie |
| [13:46:54] | quicksilver: | if it crashes on startup that's a hardware interaction |
| [13:47:15] | halcyon: | especially on hotplug |
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| [13:48:21] | quicksilver: | for myself I use debian, so I can install from apt-get everything except myth itself |
| [13:48:38] | quicksilver: | (except it turned out I needed CVS DVB drivers and CVS X drivers *sigh*) |
| [13:51:32] | fryfrog: | why? |
| [13:51:36] | fryfrog: | hardware you picked? |
| [13:53:10] | quicksilver: | I guess so. I don't like nvidia so I have ATI cards |
| [13:53:18] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [13:53:22] | quicksilver: | but ATI TV-Out is only in a branch of the CVS |
| [13:53:38] | quicksilver: | and the DVB card I chose was only supported by CVS version of the linux-dvb project |
| [13:53:41] | fryfrog: | yeah, sorry for linux i gotta say nvidia has a leg up over ati :( |
| [13:53:42] | quicksilver: | foolish in retrospect |
| [13:54:11] | fryfrog: | though, isn't amd talking about making ati's linux drivers open source? |
| [13:54:55] | quicksilver: | some of the ATI-released stuff is open source |
| [13:55:02] | quicksilver: | but the open source stuff they released didn't do TV-out |
| [13:55:06] | quicksilver: | it's all a bit messed up |
| [13:55:40] | quicksilver: | fryfrog: you're quite right though,k there have been rumours. |
| [13:58:55] | e4: | more than rumors I think |
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| [14:05:08] | TiTaN_pi8: | would be fantastic if they got opensource! then they can finally get their R9600 support fixed |
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| [14:11:35] | me: | hello all... i am a mythtv .19 user on ubuntu 6.06 and am having very basic problems with a standard v4l card... anyone care to help please? tia... |
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| [14:12:29] | halcyon: | what problems? |
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| [14:15:11] | simon_c: | thanks for that people. |
| [14:16:18] | me: | thanks... well... it is important to say that i had everything working in a previous release of ubuntu (with different .debs) |
| [14:16:27] | me: | this time around i complete steps 3 4 and 5 in the setup but the 'scan for channels' button is greyed out... |
| [14:16:35] | me: | any ideas? |
| [14:16:51] | halcyon: | hmm.. |
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| [14:29:45] | kieran491: | hi |
| [14:29:52] | halcyon: | yo |
| [14:30:58] | kieran491: | Got a wierd hardware type question is myth TV able to use to computers to one for recording then shipping the recordings be encoded or not the the main server for storing and encoding? |
| [14:32:22] | janneg: | me: have you setup your capture card? |
| [14:34:13] | me: | janneg: yes... i have completed steps 3 4 and 5 like i said... but the button is still greyed out... |
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| [14:35:05] | janneg: | ah, the steps are probably not the options in mythtv-setup |
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| [14:36:23] | me: | that is.... i have completed these steps in mythtv-setup |
| [14:36:29] | fryfrog: | kieran491: i can't figure out what you are asking :? |
| [14:37:11] | janneg: | you have to setup your card in option 2 |
| [14:37:20] | me: | yes |
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| [14:39:22] | kieran491: | Fryfrog: i have a computer that is able to support mytv for storage and encoding but it has no more slots for any PCI cards and the computer dose not have any USB ports, so i was wondering can you have another computer do the recording for the mythtv storage and encoding? |
| [14:39:51] | seth|laptop: | Make a myth slave backend box |
| [14:40:05] | seth|laptop: | I have 2 tuners on a box back in the office, as a slave |
| [14:40:16] | kieran491: | ohh how do you do that? |
| [14:40:44] | kieran491: | have not read any documentation as i did not want to dive into mythtv is i was unable to do it |
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| [14:41:25] | seth|laptop: | http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=SlaveBackendHowto |
| [14:41:31] | seth|laptop: | thats what I followed |
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| [14:42:01] | kieran491: | ahh and dose the slave have to do any encoding? |
| [14:42:25] | seth|laptop: | well mine does, it has 2 pvr 150mce's in it |
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| [14:43:07] | seth|laptop: | I use my frontend/backend combo box in the living room, to pull the data from the slave to watch it |
| [14:43:11] | kieran491: | the computer i am looking at puting it in is a AMD-k6 |
| [14:43:28] | seth|laptop: | well, what cpu? |
| [14:45:09] | kieran491: | witha clock speed of 350MHZ |
| [14:45:55] | stuarta: | only good for an nfs server then |
| [14:47:00] | fryfrog: | you could *record* an mpeg2 card's stream just fine |
| [14:47:04] | fryfrog: | but probably only one |
| [14:47:11] | seth|laptop: | hmm, if you have the right pvr card, with mpeg encoding on board, you may be able to pull it off, my slave box is an IBM clereon 733 with 256 MB of ram, and a 100GB hard drive, but it has 2 pvr 150 cards in it, and they handle the encoding on chip, so it works for dishnetwork, however for HDTV I have to use my front end box, sempron 3000+. But for cable or dish tv, you may be able to get aweay with it un]sing the right pvr card |
| [14:47:12] | kieran491: | acualy have one other computer thats old but its a old AMD Athlon |
| [14:47:14] | kieran491: | what about that |
| [14:47:21] | fryfrog: | I'd shell out the $100 it'd cost to get a used faster cpu :) |
| [14:47:42] | seth|laptop: | athlon would be the better choice, by a long shot |
| [14:47:51] | seth|laptop: | :-) |
| [14:47:58] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: Actually you could record 3 or 4 streams on that 350 |
| [14:48:01] | kieran491: | yeah thats what i am thinking for got i have that computer |
| [14:48:10] | fryfrog: | really? |
| [14:48:13] | GreyFoxx: | not good for playback, but it can record fine |
| [14:48:17] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [14:48:18] | fryfrog: | spiffy |
| [14:48:23] | stuarta: | it's just not much use for processing... |
| [14:48:49] | kieran491: | is there any where i can read instructions for slaveing one mythtv box to another using the gentoo distro? |
| [14:49:00] | seth|laptop: | a guy in my lug is using a celeron 333, with a pvr500 card, and cable, he can record two things, but that is a sal |
| [14:49:08] | seth|laptop: | lave box as well, not enough beef for playback |
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| [14:49:29] | stuarta: | kieran491: all the myth parts are the same, just installation will be different |
| [14:49:40] | kieran491: | hmm sweet |
| [14:49:44] | kieran491: | good to know thanks |
| [14:49:51] | seth|laptop: | the knoppmyth instructions should work, but you can always check the gentoo forums, always something good there :-) |
| [14:50:04] | TiTaN_pi8: | i'm running mythbackend + other stuff (dhcp/router/fax server/...) on an pII 400mhz with 256mb ram |
| [14:50:20] | kieran491: | ohh nice |
| [14:50:27] | TiTaN_pi8: | works great with pvr500 |
| [14:51:37] | ** seth|laptop wonders if he can get another OTA HD card and run it on the 733 celeron, for recording only..... ** | |
| [14:51:51] | seth|laptop: | $39.99 on ebay, free shipping, might be worth a try |
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| [14:52:12] | stuarta: | if it fails you can always stick it in the other machine |
| [14:52:26] | kieran491: | could |
| [14:52:44] | quicksilver: | any DVB-T users here? Looking for hints on the best way to improve reception. |
| [14:52:47] | seth|laptop: | true, then I can have 2 hdtv cards and 1 pvr500, on the frontend, and 2 pvr150 cards on the backend, lots of possibilities |
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| [14:52:55] | quicksilver: | It seems my tuner cards don't tune quite as well as my old set top box did |
| [14:52:58] | stuarta: | quicksilver: better aerial |
| [14:53:03] | ** seth|laptop is a DVB-T user ** | |
| [14:53:05] | simon_c: | quicksilver, I use dvb-t, but never needed to improve the reception. |
| [14:53:13] | quicksilver: | stuarta: we have an (old) roof aerial |
| [14:53:22] | quicksilver: | obviously not one of these designed-for-digital ones |
| [14:53:28] | quicksilver: | I live in chelmsford |
| [14:53:35] | quicksilver: | closest transmitter is crystal palace |
| [14:53:38] | quicksilver: | that's a very long way away :P |
| [14:54:07] | quicksilver: | would a better roof aerial help? a modern one? |
| [14:54:17] | quicksilver: | I have a nasty feeling the wiring isn't great but no easy way to test that assertion |
| [14:54:24] | stuarta: | you are probably in a marginal area then... |
| [14:54:29] | kieran491: | well i am off to bed thank you for all your support :) |
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| [14:54:50] | simon_c: | Well, I'm in reading, receiving from the crystal palace transmitter, with an old roof arial, and it works OK |
| [14:55:09] | quicksilver: | stuarta: it's so marginal that according to the websites it's "no signal" |
| [14:55:09] | seth|laptop: | I use this antenna for OTA HD, highly recommended, but I am within 50 miles of all of my favorite channels |
| [14:55:14] | seth|laptop: | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem . . . romot_widget |
| [14:55:16] | simon_c: | quicksilver, the only thing I had to do was remove a very old, unpowered signal splitter that had been put in the lofs. the rest is fine. |
| [14:55:37] | quicksilver: | simon_c: I have a powered signal splitter. I know experimentally it doesn't make things worse (I tried removing it) |
| [14:55:43] | quicksilver: | but it doesn't amek things much ebtter either |
| [14:55:45] | ** seth|laptop is in E-Town , PA ** | |
| [14:56:10] | quicksilver: | I get consistently good reception on all muxes except one |
| [14:56:14] | quicksilver: | which is a bit odd |
| [14:56:19] | quicksilver: | since they all come from the same transmitter |
| [14:56:20] | stuarta: | ch5 mux? |
| [14:56:28] | quicksilver: | the one with ITV1 and C4 |
| [14:56:31] | quicksilver: | yes, C5 as well I think |
| [14:57:02] | stuarta: | there are actually 2 transmitters at Crystal Palace. can see them from my house. |
| [14:57:05] | quicksilver: | ah |
| [14:57:08] | quicksilver: | didn't realise that |
| [14:57:37] | stuarta: | traditionally ch5 analogue has been a PITA since it's on it's own mast or some silliness like that |
| [14:58:45] | quicksilver: | actually C5 analogue is fine |
| [14:58:51] | quicksilver: | but I think there's an essex transmitter for analogue |
| [14:58:59] | quicksilver: | it's only digital that I have to stretch to crystal palace for |
| [14:59:31] | ** stuarta check something ** | |
| [14:59:38] | quicksilver: | Hm. I wonder if my roof aerial might be "pointed at" the essex analogue aerial, reducing it's usefulness for digital |
| [15:00:40] | simon_c: | quicksilver, May even need a different aerial. When I first moved into the house, the other half wanted the arial pointed to the south-hampton transmitter (or whereever it is) |
| [15:01:02] | quicksilver: | ah |
| [15:01:08] | quicksilver: | interesting |
| [15:01:12] | quicksilver: | so it could be directionality? |
| [15:01:15] | simon_c: | the arial guy said it would need a totally different arial, what with fitting etc etc would have ended up as an extra £250 |
| [15:01:18] | stuarta: | just checked. the itv/ch4 mux also has the lowest frequency of all the muxes on crystal palace. |
| [15:01:29] | quicksilver: | could be expensive to get another put on the roof though |
| [15:01:41] | quicksilver: | anyone tried these ones you fit in your attic? do they work? |
| [15:01:52] | stuarta: | if you are close enough |
| [15:02:01] | quicksilver: | stuarta: that's interesting. Maybe atmospheric effects affect the lower frequencies |
| [15:02:05] | quicksilver: | it's definitely weather sensitive |
| [15:02:16] | simon_c: | quicksilver, I'm *guessing* if youre at extream range anyway, you need to be on the roof. |
| [15:02:28] | stuarta: | it could also be the dirction as you mentioned.... |
| [15:02:34] | simon_c: | somegeek, we didn't get anything changed, Just got used the old sky box onto a spare LNB on the sat dish. |
| [15:02:54] | simon_c: | damn tab-compleation |
| [15:02:58] | quicksilver: | grin |
| [15:03:33] | quicksilver: | so re-aiming the roof aerial might work. |
| [15:03:39] | quicksilver: | Not an easy roof to get onto though :( |
| [15:03:56] | quicksilver: | maybe I'll phone around local TV engineers. they should be experienced with locals trying to pick up digital. |
| [15:04:04] | stuarta: | try with the compass first to work out if that *is* an issue... |
| [15:04:08] | quicksilver: | after all the local sainsburys sells STBs so they presumably do work for most people |
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| [15:04:32] | quicksilver: | the aerial should literally 'point at' crystal palace? so roughly south-east for me? |
| [15:05:03] | stuarta: | you can also wander up and down the street... work it out pretty quick |
| [15:05:19] | quicksilver: | ? |
| [15:05:27] | quicksilver: | just looking at where other peoples are pointed? |
| [15:06:11] | stuarta: | up |
| [15:06:13] | stuarta: | yup |
| [15:06:56] | stuarta: | newer one's prob point to CP, older ones to the local relay |
| [15:07:48] | seth|laptop: | so what would cause commflag to run at 40% or greater? |
| [15:07:48] | seth|laptop: | any Ideas |
| [15:08:01] | seth|laptop: | in top |
| [15:08:14] | quicksilver: | thanks for all the help all |
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| [15:08:34] | quicksilver: | I will wander around my street staring at people's rooves for a while |
| [15:08:44] | halcyon: | hehe "crazy neighbor" |
| [15:09:39] | dansmith_: | do the OpenGL menus in 0.20 help the XvMC OSD problem at all? |
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| [15:15:57] | quicksilver: | if you accidentally enable opengl menus having forgotten that your display driver doesn't support opengl |
| [15:16:01] | quicksilver: | you hose your myth installation :P |
| [15:16:10] | quicksilver: | until you work out which mysql row to alter |
| [15:19:06] | halcyon: | there should be a command line option to force the painter, I think. |
| [15:19:43] | stuarta: | there is. it's in the -dev archives somewhere |
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| [15:22:03] | jams: | tyr -O UseOpenGLPainter=0 |
| [15:22:15] | stuarta: | that'll be it :) |
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| [15:24:05] | jams: | or -O ThemePainter=qt |
| [15:25:21] | janneg: | stuarta: that was it, Isaac change the setting name after he made the setting available in mythfrontend. -O ThemePainter=qt is correct |
| [15:25:23] | jams: | I beleive the ThemePainter option is the one to use |
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| [15:30:27] | quicksilver: | just changing the themepainter entry in mysql worked too, though |
| [15:30:29] | quicksilver: | but yes :) |
| [15:32:19] | e4: | How do you enable say eth0 on Knoppmyth with DHCP? |
| [15:33:51] | jams: | run netcardconfig follow the prompts |
| [15:34:22] | e4: | heh, nice |
| [15:34:55] | e4: | ah, thank you! |
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| [15:36:06] | e4: | is knoppmyth debian based? |
| [15:36:56] | quicksilver: | once removed, yes |
| [15:37:03] | quicksilver: | knoppmyth is knoppix based which is debian based |
| [15:37:09] | e4: | hm.. ok |
| [15:38:56] | jams: | actually knoppmyth is debian based |
| [15:39:01] | jams: | they just didn't change the name |
| [15:39:19] | jams: | knoppix was dumped a while ago |
| [15:39:41] | quicksilver: | oh, live and learn |
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| [16:26:42] | mac_: | hi |
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| [16:27:32] | mac_: | I still have my xvmc problem with 0.20.. it still segfaults when I select live tv.. now I have attached gdb to it and I get: 0xb68b507e in XvMCListSurfaceTypes () from /usr/lib/libXvMCW.so.1 |
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| [16:27:41] | mac_: | Can anyone help me? :) |
| [16:27:47] | barry253: | hey all |
| [16:31:53] | ** mac_ is so close to reinstalling ** | |
| [16:32:30] | barry253: | mac, what's the issue? i'm a relative noob but learned a lot over the past few weeks |
| [16:32:37] | mac_: | xvmc segfaults |
| [16:32:42] | mac_: | when watching tv |
| [16:33:40] | barry253: | what video card? |
| [16:33:46] | mac_: | onboard |
| [16:33:52] | mac_: | via chipset, obviously |
| [16:34:03] | barry253: | what vid driver are you using |
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| [16:34:28] | mac_: | "via" |
| [16:34:50] | mac_: | Hm, maybe I should restart the X server |
| [16:35:18] | barry253: | well that's always a good starting point – but you should be using a brand-specific driver if available |
| [16:35:24] | mac_: | I do |
| [16:35:25] | Twiggy: | Hey, I upgraded to 0.20 last night, and pretty much everything is working well except my video playback is zoomed in heavily and changing the aspect ratio with W doesn't help at all |
| [16:35:26] | mac_: | it worked fine in 0.19 |
| [16:35:30] | barry253: | ah |
| [16:35:31] | Ribs: | he's using the via driver :> |
| [16:35:39] | mac_: | now all I get weird issues I can think of |
| [16:35:50] | barry253: | ok, out of my area, sorry |
| [16:36:06] | Ribs: | what kind of issues? |
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| [16:36:18] | mac_: | Ribs: right now, libxvmc segfaults when trying to watch TV |
| [16:36:24] | mac_: | I definitally love that by now :) |
| [16:36:30] | Ribs: | is that all? |
| [16:36:34] | Ribs: | or anything else? |
| [16:36:44] | mac_: | 0xb68b507e in XvMCListSurfaceTypes () from /usr/lib/libXvMCW.so.1 |
| [16:36:50] | mac_: | that is what gdb says when mythfrontend segfaults |
| [16:36:55] | Ribs: | no, I mean any other problems? |
| [16:37:01] | mac_: | No, nothing else |
| [16:37:06] | Ribs: | hrm |
| [16:37:14] | Ribs: | can your machine cope without xvmc, in the mean time? |
| [16:37:24] | mac_: | No, it cant.. its a 1ghz via barebone |
| [16:37:30] | Ribs: | mini itx? |
| [16:37:34] | mac_: | Yep |
| [16:37:38] | Ribs: | hrm |
| [16:37:43] | Ribs: | tried xorg 7.1 ? |
| [16:37:51] | mac_: | have ubuntu drapper on it |
| [16:37:58] | Ribs: | I see |
| [16:37:59] | mac_: | Correct me if I am wrong, but I need to load the xvmc driver in xorg, right? |
| [16:38:07] | Ribs: | no |
| [16:38:12] | Ribs: | just the via one |
| [16:38:22] | Ribs: | as far as I know, anyway |
| [16:38:28] | Ribs: | that's what I did for my NVidia |
| [16:38:35] | halcyon: | yeah I think so Ribs |
| [16:38:40] | Ribs: | nothing specific in xorg.conf was needed |
| [16:38:43] | mac_: | ok |
| [16:38:45] | Ribs: | as far as I remember, anyway |
| [16:38:46] | mac_: | So thats not the error |
| [16:38:50] | mac_: | Anyways, I started the x server again |
| [16:38:51] | mac_: | lets see now |
| [16:39:19] | mac_: | no luck |
| [16:39:30] | mac_: | I tested the md5sum of the lib its crashing with my desktop box.. its the same |
| [16:39:52] | Ribs: | mac_, okay, and it worked just fine with 0.19? |
| [16:40:06] | mac_: | Ribs: yes, via xvmc playback was working fine in 0.19 |
| [16:40:13] | mac_: | Now, it just segfautls |
| [16:40:19] | Ribs: | okay, so we can assume the fault is with mythtv |
| [16:40:27] | Ribs: | how did you obtain 0.20? compile it yourself? |
| [16:40:39] | mac_: | Yes, I compiled the 020-fixes svn checkout |
| [16:40:42] | mac_: | Someone suggested that yesterday |
| [16:40:58] | Ribs: | did 0.20 regular have the issue? |
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| [16:41:02] | mac_: | yep |
| [16:41:31] | Ribs: | and you compiled that yourself? |
| [16:41:33] | mac_: | Yes |
| [16:41:35] | mac_: | Both of them |
| [16:41:40] | mac_: | I compiled it line 8 times or so |
| [16:41:43] | Ribs: | that's interesting |
| [16:41:49] | mac_: | Is mythfrontend statically linked to libXvmc? |
| [16:41:54] | Ribs: | I don't think so |
| [16:41:57] | mac_: | I really didnt look much into the makefile |
| [16:42:07] | Ribs: | when I compiled 0.20 svn, the backend kept crashing |
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| [16:42:17] | mac_: | Maybe it doesnt like the lib file |
| [16:42:22] | mac_: | because it crashe sthere |
| [16:43:49] | Ribs: | does xine play with xvmc okay? |
| [16:44:11] | mac_: | I didnt test that.. just install xine, right? |
| [16:44:26] | Ribs: | xine-ui, I believe |
| [16:44:28] | Ribs: | or mplayer |
| [16:44:32] | mac_: | mplayer works fine |
| [16:44:33] | Ribs: | whatever, they should both work |
| [16:44:34] | mac_: | but I dont know if it uses it |
| [16:44:39] | Ribs: | you have to specifiy the xvmc driver tho |
| [16:44:44] | Ribs: | it won't use it by default |
| [16:44:47] | mac_: | Okay |
| [16:44:48] | mac_: | let me test that |
| [16:45:19] | mac_: | -vo is the switch |
| [16:45:27] | Ribs: | I believe so |
| [16:45:31] | Ribs: | my mplayer is a bit rusty |
| [16:45:39] | Ribs: | -vo driver |
| [16:45:40] | Ribs: | or something |
| [16:45:47] | kormoc: | Aye, -vo xvmc should work fine |
| [16:45:51] | Ribs: | :) |
| [16:45:55] | mac_: | in this case, viaxvmc |
| [16:45:55] | mac_: | right? |
| [16:46:01] | Ribs: | go for it |
| [16:46:02] | kormoc: | Yeah, for the via specific one |
| [16:46:22] | kormoc: | you can also do -vo help to see the list of supported drivers |
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| [16:48:13] | mac_: | Okay, interesting that doesnt work |
| [16:48:21] | Ribs: | what's the error? |
| [16:48:42] | mac_: | FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo). |
| [16:49:04] | Ribs: | is that it? |
| [16:49:15] | mac_: | The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec. |
| [16:49:19] | mac_: | no real detailed error |
| [16:49:30] | Ribs: | try upping the verbose level |
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| [16:50:51] | mac_: | Nothing worthwhile in there, as much as I can see |
| [16:50:57] | mac_: | I believe my xvmc support is fucked, somehow |
| [16:52:21] | mac_: | And/or maybe it is linked to the wrong xvmc libary |
| [16:52:33] | mac_: | It is accessing libXvMCW.so and not libVia* |
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| [16:53:26] | Ribs: | hrm |
| [16:53:42] | Ribs: | move the libXvMCW.so aside ( don't delete it ) |
| [16:53:45] | Ribs: | then sudo ldconfig |
| [16:53:47] | Ribs: | and try again |
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| [16:55:02] | mac_: | as I suspected, its linked to it |
| [16:55:04] | mac_: | So mythfrotnend wont run |
| [16:55:14] | Ribs: | recompile? |
| [16:55:39] | Ribs: | painfull as that would be on a VIA 1ghz :> |
| [16:55:42] | mac_: | I already removed that from the link line |
| [16:55:49] | mac_: | it was still linked against that |
| [16:55:56] | mac_: | Ribs: Oh I know, I compiled mythtv many times by now on that box :) |
| [16:55:59] | mac_: | takes 40+ mins each time |
| [16:56:09] | Ribs: | ccache might be good for you :) |
| [16:56:22] | mac_: | ok I assume by now that xvmc is broken |
| [16:56:29] | mac_: | I also retried reinstalling the ubuntu packages for that |
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| [16:56:52] | ** Ribs is just waiting for updated packages ** | |
| [16:57:09] | mac_: | so I'll dl dapper drake iso again |
| [16:57:12] | mac_: | and reinstall |
| [16:57:14] | mac_: | not much of a choice |
| [16:57:17] | seth|laptop: | what new funtionality does .20 add over .19? |
| [16:57:43] | kormoc: | seth|laptop, you could check the website which links to the changelog that goes over all of that |
| [16:57:58] | Ribs: | seth|laptop, lots: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.20 |
| [16:58:23] | seth|laptop: | thanks for the link |
| [16:59:26] | mac_: | Good thing I can make backups now |
| [16:59:28] | mac_: | backupt the myth database |
| [16:59:38] | mac_: | and current compiled mythtv things:) |
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| [17:04:35] | Virusmaster: | hi... is someone here using minimythtv? |
| [17:05:33] | Virusmaster: | i tried to set it up, which works... some kind of... but when booting, it complains about minimyth.conf not found (although minimyth.conf is on the flash in the dir /conf/minimyth.conf, and the flash is mounted to /minimyth) |
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| [17:05:46] | gardengnome: | re |
| [17:05:55] | Virusmaster: | wb |
| [17:06:58] | gardengnome: | Virusmaster: /join #mythtv-de :) |
| [17:07:22] | Virusmaster: | Is my english that bad? :D |
| [17:07:40] | gardengnome: | would i want to find out? :) |
| [17:07:56] | Virusmaster: | ah, my vhost... damn, I am not on my server *duuuh* |
| [17:08:08] | gardengnome: | busted. |
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| [17:10:01] | Juski: | !trout gardengnome wakey-wakey |
| [17:10:01] | ** MythLogBot slaps gardengnome with a wakey-wakey trout on behalf of Juski... ** | |
| [17:10:12] | Virusmaster: | =) |
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| [17:10:32] | Virusmaster: | Juski: i heared, you can help me with minimyth? |
| [17:10:40] | Juski: | maybe, maybe not |
| [17:10:43] | gardengnome: | Juski: revenge is sweet. |
| [17:10:48] | Juski: | I'm going home soon |
| [17:11:14] | Juski: | www.linpvr.org/forum :) |
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| [17:11:46] | Virusmaster: | well, lets give it a try... Installation was some kind of successfull, it starts to boot, configures networking correctly, but then says, that minimyth.conf is not being found (although it resides in /minimyth/conf/minimyth.conf |
| [17:12:07] | Juski: | still the wrong path. I had the same issue |
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| [17:12:51] | Juski: | if your PXE directory is /minimyth/ I think it looks for /minimyth/PXEConfig/conf/minimyth.conf |
| [17:13:08] | Virusmaster: | I boot it from CF, not from pxe |
| [17:13:36] | Juski: | no idea then |
| [17:14:29] | Virusmaster: | mh, I browsed the init scripts earlier this day, and found something like /minimyth.d/conf/ ... could that be? |
| [17:14:51] | Juski: | like I said I use PXE so I have no idea |
| [17:15:05] | Juski: | I'm clueless I mean ;-) |
| [17:15:15] | Juski: | time for hometime anyway |
| [17:15:32] | gardengnome: | try /conf/minimyth.conf? |
| [17:15:37] | Virusmaster: | okay, thanks anyways, I will not give up :D |
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| [17:57:04] | xris: | so who here knows anything about FTA satellite stuff and can recommend me the 18" vs 75cm dish? |
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| [18:01:30] | Paladine: | the pvr150 will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine... |
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| [18:04:46] | Juski: | Virusmaster: yeah try in /conf/minimyth.conf |
| [18:05:54] | Virusmaster: | Juski: i just got it... it has to lay in /conf/default/minimyth.conf |
| [18:06:11] | Juski: | figures :) |
| [18:06:17] | Virusmaster: | =) |
| [18:06:27] | Juski: | eeks... 2 more days left at my current workplace :( |
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| [18:08:55] | nandy_: | howdy, I am thinking about setting up a mythtv box, I was trying to figure out how it would work with my HD receiver? Replacement or downstream hardware? |
| [18:09:26] | Juski: | nandy_: you can't capture HD from an HD cable/satellite box |
| [18:09:58] | Juski: | whoops... you can but only with firewire and some if not most channels will be 5C encrippled :) |
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| [18:10:43] | fryfrog: | you can also get an HD pci card that decodes QAM and get any unencrypted channels |
| [18:11:08] | Juski: | and you can get an HD pci tuner card to receive OTA HDTV |
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| [18:11:54] | nandy_: | what about channels > 125? I was reading in one of these reviews that they are not viewable? |
| [18:12:19] | fryfrog: | also, i *just* read about a new HDMI input card |
| [18:12:21] | fryfrog: | that'd be awsome |
| [18:12:31] | fryfrog: | hook a DVI -> HDMI cable to that |
| [18:12:40] | fryfrog: | course, it'd need support in myth *and* linux drivers :( |
| [18:12:40] | kormoc: | nandy_, currently, no pci tuner cards can tune to them |
| [18:12:46] | Juski: | no linux drivers for that as far as anybody knows, and you can be 99% certain it won't speak HDCP |
| [18:13:00] | Juski: | (the HDMI capture card) |
| [18:13:01] | fryfrog: | yeah, but all the *older* crap doesn't do hdcp anyway |
| [18:14:32] | nandy_: | kom: is it possible or feasable to put the mythtv box downstream of a cable box and have it control the cable box to get higher channels and use the output from the cable box? |
| [18:14:46] | nandy_: | err kormoc |
| [18:15:01] | kormoc: | nandy_, sure, via a ir-blaster and component inputs on a capture card, aye |
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| [18:15:36] | xris: | kormoc: or svideo/composite. |
| [18:15:41] | xris: | not many capture cards have component inputs. |
| [18:15:46] | nandy_: | that would allow me to access any channels on my cable system through the mythbox |
| [18:15:49] | kormoc: | xris, he was asking bout hdtv |
| [18:15:55] | kormoc: | nandy_, indeed |
| [18:16:10] | xris: | nandy_: HD? firewire is the best solution (if you're in the US) |
| [18:16:20] | nandy_: | only reason most people do not do that is that it requires cable co equipment still? |
| [18:17:04] | xris: | nandy_: you have an HD cable receiver box, right? check if there is a firewire port on it, and get the model number. |
| [18:17:34] | nandy_: | xris: im like 80% sure it has firewire |
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| [18:17:51] | xris: | nandy_: that's going to be your best option, assuming it works. |
| [18:17:52] | nandy_: | its the timewarner HD/DVR receiver here in san diego |
| [18:18:02] | fryfrog: | even then, over firewire *lots* of channels are likely disabled :( |
| [18:18:03] | xris: | timewarner doesn't make receivers. |
| [18:18:13] | xris: | fryfrog: depends on the provider. none of mine are. |
| [18:18:20] | fryfrog: | unless your cable company doesn't suck |
| [18:18:23] | fryfrog: | lucky bastard :( |
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| [18:18:30] | xris: | well, vh1 doesn't work, but I think that's a tuning issue not an intentional disable |
| [18:18:51] | fryfrog: | maybe i should try firewire again |
| [18:18:54] | nandy_: | xris: oh i know its a SA or something but they only offer like 1 or two brands |
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| [18:21:36] | podzap: | anybody here running a network dvd server? |
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| [18:21:48] | xris: | nandy_: unless it's a motorola, you'll still need an IR blaster |
| [18:22:43] | nandy_: | pretty sure its SA |
| [18:23:13] | xris: | but it's totally worth trying out |
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| [18:25:38] | nandy_: | scientific atlanta explorer 8300 hd |
| [18:25:41] | nandy_: | thats the one! |
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| [18:26:35] | peppo: | anyone in here using kernel 2.6.17 and a hauppage wintv 150 + the remote? I'm having no success in testing lirc_i2c and irw. |
| [18:27:09] | peppo: | this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/xWs3L263.html appears in syslog, and irw says "connection refused". |
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| [18:39:35] | xris: | nandy_: if you have a firewire card/cable, you can still test the box using your remote, and pick up an ir blaster later |
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| [18:40:36] | nandy_: | aye |
| [18:40:43] | nandy_: | i will play aroudn with it when i get home |
| [18:40:47] | nandy_: | thanks for all the help guys! |
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| [18:49:45] | maqe: | Can anyone help me? My setup is Mythtv 0.20, twinhan dvb-t card and i live in sweden... scanning works nice but when i try to watch tv i get no signal lock. Is it i known issue or does it have to do with my configuration? I worked nice with 0.19-fixes release |
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| [18:51:09] | visit0r: | Driver error was [2/1016]: |
| [18:51:09] | visit0r: | QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query |
| [18:51:09] | visit0r: | Database error was: |
| [18:51:09] | visit0r: | Can't open file: 'recordedseek.MYI' (errno: 145) |
| [18:51:11] | visit0r: | what's this? |
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| [18:51:27] | xris: | visit0r: corrupt mysql index |
| [18:51:36] | xris: | look in contrib for optimize_mythdb.pl and run it |
| [18:51:49] | visit0r: | thanks ;-) |
| [18:52:02] | xris: | handy to just cron that to run daily, anyway. |
| [18:53:06] | maqe: | when i check mythbackend -v important i get this messages |
| [18:53:08] | maqe: | 2006-09–13 20:46:39.771 TVRec(1): PauseRecorder() called with no recorder |
| [18:53:08] | maqe: | 2006-09–13 20:46:40.009 Preview Error: Previewer file '/mnt/store//1003_20060913204636.mpg' is not valid. |
| [18:53:11] | maqe: | 2006-09–13 20:46:40.287 DVBSignalMonitor(0)::constructor(1,Warning, can not measure Bit Error Rate): Operation not supported |
| [18:53:14] | maqe: | 2006-09–13 20:46:40.287 DVBSignalMonitor(0)::constructor(1,Warning, can not count Uncorrected Blocks): Operation not supported |
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| [18:57:41] | maqe: | i also end upp with alot of 0 sized *.mpg files in /mnt/store |
| [18:59:22] | xris: | sounds like a problem with the dvb drivers/setup/signal |
| [19:01:33] | maqe: | hm okay |
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| [19:01:46] | maqe: | it worked ok with 0.19 thou |
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| [19:03:14] | maqe: | i know i got bad signal strength but it has worked ok before |
| [19:03:21] | maqe: | my signal is about 30% |
| [19:03:47] | quicksilver: | could be a complete coincidence |
| [19:03:49] | quicksilver: | (the upgrade) |
| [19:03:56] | quicksilver: | if you have a very weak signal, maybe you knocked your aerial |
| [19:04:00] | quicksilver: | or the weather is bad today |
| [19:04:07] | quicksilver: | or something else coincidental to the myth upgrade |
| [19:04:55] | maqe: | maybe mythtv .20 has problems with weak signals |
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| [19:05:16] | maqe: | scanning in mythtv works great thou |
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| [19:06:01] | Juski: | maqe: scanning might work great. try using tzap with mythbackend stopped. |
| [19:06:41] | maqe: | okay |
| [19:07:01] | quicksilver: | I'm not aware of a reason why myth 0.20 would be any worse than myth 0.19 with weak signals. AFAIK the locking is done by the DVB driver not the myth software? |
| [19:08:14] | quicksilver: | Juski: has anyone thought about myth and hybrid cards? In particular, telling it that DVB0 and video0 both work, but can't be scheduled at the same time? |
| [19:08:18] | Juski: | it could all be a coincidence |
| [19:08:43] | Juski: | quicksilver: no idea. personally I wouldn't bother with a hybrid card. analogue gets switched off here in 2008 or so |
| [19:09:03] | fryfrog: | anyone who uses network boot / nfs root use DNSMasq dhcp server? Ie, something maybe found on some of the small routers? |
| [19:09:06] | quicksilver: | Juski: I happen to have 2 hybrids because they were the cheapest card I could find at the particular time :) |
| [19:09:20] | quicksilver: | Juski: but it's useful because I don't get good enough reception for C4 on digital |
| [19:09:35] | visit0r: | xris: any other tips? |
| [19:09:35] | maqe: | is there any setting for weakest signal in mythtv-setup or something? |
| [19:09:37] | Juski: | fryfrog: I do PXE & nfsroot but I use a dhcp server on my backend |
| [19:09:38] | xris: | visit0r: keep asking your questions here.. your seek table probably needs to be rebuilt.. mythcommflag --help |
| [19:09:52] | quicksilver: | Juski: at the moment I just use 1 in digital mode and 1 in analogue mode |
| [19:10:01] | Juski: | quicksilver: sort the digital signal out then. analogue is going bye-bye by 2012 in the UK |
| [19:10:34] | quicksilver: | Juski: I presume before it does they'll put another transmitter in my area |
| [19:10:43] | quicksilver: | Juski: I'm "between" transmitters. |
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| [19:10:45] | fryfrog: | blah, i don't wanna run dhcp from my server i like my little router doing it :( |
| [19:10:52] | quicksilver: | officially digital isn't supported in my area |
| [19:10:54] | quicksilver: | but it does work |
| [19:10:59] | quicksilver: | except for the weak end of 1 mux |
| [19:11:05] | quicksilver: | (which contains channel 4 and ITV1) |
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| [19:11:23] | fryfrog: | oh, thank i foudn something |
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| [19:14:11] | Juski: | fryfrog: IMHO DHCP, unless you're running netbooted stuff is a waste of time |
| [19:14:38] | quicksilver: | it's handy if you have wireless and allow random people to turn up with their laptops |
| [19:14:41] | quicksilver: | :) |
| [19:15:10] | barry253: | trying to troubleshoot mythdvd rip...it starts the rip, but fails before it finishes. i don't see an mtd.log file in the videos folder (or anything else) – any advice on how to proceed? |
| [19:16:56] | DMJC: | is there a vectorised theme for mythtv? |
| [19:17:06] | DMJC: | it's looking a bit crappy on my dell 30" LCD |
| [19:17:10] | fryfrog: | Juski: how would you... oh yeah |
| [19:17:15] | DMJC: | 2560x1600 res |
| [19:17:20] | fryfrog: | i'm tryign to get netbooting pxe working :) |
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| [19:18:57] | Tronic: | Speaking of displays... Do you know of any shops selling Samsung 244T BLACK in EU? |
| [19:19:09] | Tronic: | Or of shops in USA that would ship to EU? |
| [19:19:31] | Tronic: | In Finland they only have that awful silver model. |
| [19:19:41] | Tronic: | And I most definitely do not want some goddamn silver. |
| [19:19:52] | Tronic: | Even the less I want to pay 1200 euros for it. |
| [19:20:29] | Tronic: | It is getting impossible to buy electronics in any other color. Just like the communism, just not brown anymore. |
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| [19:25:23] | fish: | re |
| [19:25:44] | fish: | are there more recent debian/ubuntu packages than in the debian/ubuntu repository? |
| [19:26:04] | fish: | in ubuntu/edgy is the most recent version 0.18.1 |
| [19:26:08] | quicksilver: | of myth? I don't think so. |
| [19:26:09] | Juski: | pleh |
| [19:26:15] | fish: | uhm |
| [19:26:17] | quicksilver: | but myth compiles cleanly out-of-the-box on debian |
| [19:26:18] | Juski: | try looking in the channel faq |
| [19:26:28] | gardengnome: | someone needs to get 0.20 into ubuntu ;) |
| [19:26:30] | quicksilver: | as long as you have the appropriate dev libraries installed |
| [19:26:31] | fryfrog: | ZOUNDS, SWEET! |
| [19:26:39] | gardengnome: | Juski: hamstas packages are not ready yet. |
| [19:26:56] | fryfrog: | pxe working, now i just need to try it on a 64bit system :) |
| [19:26:56] | gardengnome: | anyways, i don't really care |
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| [19:27:03] | DMJC: | anyway, are there any ultra high res themes? |
| [19:27:13] | mac_: | ok, I reinstalled ubuntu.. :) |
| [19:29:05] | Juski: | DMJC: no, and there won't be any til someone allows a res greater than 1280x720 |
| [19:29:16] | DMJC: | allows a res? |
| [19:29:21] | Juski: | that's the highest base resolution of a theme |
| [19:29:30] | DMJC: | damn |
| [19:29:33] | DMJC: | what about SVG? |
| [19:29:35] | Juski: | everything gets scaled to 1280x720 in the case of wide themes |
| [19:29:38] | Juski: | no way jose |
| [19:29:42] | fish: | well.. i need ubuntu/edgy packages.. |
| [19:29:49] | Juski: | you wanna draw SVG icons, DMJC? |
| [19:29:51] | fish: | than i'll have to build it myself.. |
| [19:30:07] | DMJC: | I could.. |
| [19:30:23] | quicksilver: | a scalable theme would be pretty cool, actually |
| [19:30:32] | Juski: | count me out then |
| [19:30:38] | quicksilver: | but I would have thought that 1280x720 would look fine unless you're sitting too close to the tv :P |
| [19:31:08] | Juski: | I tried Inkscape once. lord knows how people manage to create nice stuff with that |
| [19:31:26] | fish: | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /134676.html <- there are 0.20 packages ;) |
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| [19:31:44] | mac_: | for what distri? |
| [19:31:50] | fish: | mac_: ubuntu/dapper |
| [19:31:54] | mac_: | Very cool. |
| [19:31:59] | mac_: | Was just about to compile it.. AGAIN |
| [19:32:01] | Juski: | someone on the mythtvtalk forums has made some ubuntu packages available.. I dunno how far I could trust them |
| [19:32:08] | mac_: | I hope they are xvmc |
| [19:32:16] | Juski: | I could make some if I knew how |
| [19:32:24] | mac_: | I just reinstalled the entire pvr box |
| [19:32:58] | Juski: | I need to schedule some major downtime of my system so I can dump gentoo & get ubuntu on there |
| [19:33:26] | mac_: | Reinstalling this time took much less time |
| [19:33:29] | mac_: | No problem with tv out on X |
| [19:33:35] | mac_: | no problem with installing drivers for my tuner |
| [19:33:35] | mac_: | etc |
| [19:33:38] | mac_: | everything very fast |
| [19:33:48] | Juski: | all I need is some time. I'm building a shed this weekend |
| [19:34:23] | Juski: | and right now I can't do anything cos of the recordings being made for SWMBO |
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| [19:35:01] | mac_: | Its ironic.. the same day my new (old) pvrusb2 device came, I am reinstalling the box |
| [19:37:30] | Juski: | I think I need to underclock this box so I can get by without upgrading my PSU for a while or I'll never get this video done |
| [19:38:50] | beavis: | Query was: ALTER TABLE recorded ADD COLUMN transcoded TINYINT(1) NOT NULL DEFAULT 0; |
| [19:39:05] | beavis: | Database error was: |
| [19:39:11] | beavis: | Duplicate column name 'transcoded |
| [19:39:23] | beavis: | ^^^ do you guys know what it is? |
| [19:39:35] | beavis: | updating 0.19-fixes to 0.20 |
| [19:39:49] | fish: | ah, cool, the dapper packages are working on edgy too |
| [19:40:19] | beavis: | fish, the dapper packages don't work for me :( |
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| [19:42:13] | maqe: | how do i use dvbscan to create a channels.conf for terrestrial? |
| [19:43:06] | visit0r: | xris: ok, so the mysql corrupted those too? |
| [19:43:54] | visit0r: | (not just indexes |
| [19:44:22] | mac_: | [17181941.020000] pvrusb2: Device initialization completed successfully. |
| [19:44:22] | mac_: | Yay |
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| [19:45:41] | visit0r: | xris: no help... damned |
| [19:47:36] | fryfrog: | can a 32bit install of windows xp run a 64bit vmware session? |
| [19:47:53] | fryfrog: | on a 64bit cpu that is |
| [19:48:23] | Beirdo: | I would expect so |
| [19:48:36] | fryfrog: | ah, whew looks like it ;) |
| [19:48:43] | Beirdo: | only one way to know for sure :) |
| [19:48:44] | fryfrog: | my 32bit wouldn't, understandably |
| [19:49:09] | fryfrog: | well, here goes *nothing* :) |
| [19:49:09] | mishehu: | my guess is that might still require an underlying 64bit host OS |
| [19:49:10] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:49:35] | Beirdo: | maybe, but if the CPU supports the 64-bit-ness, it might not matter |
| [19:49:43] | fryfrog: | aparantly, it doesn't matter |
| [19:49:54] | fryfrog: | vmware didn't give me a warning like it did on my old xeon 32bit windows box |
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| [19:51:12] | fryfrog: | jesus |
| [19:51:14] | fryfrog: | it booteed :) |
| [19:51:16] | pepoo: | any ptune-ui users in here? |
| [19:51:25] | pepoo: | question: can it read a channel map? |
| [19:54:48] | DMJC: | did they change the video gallery much in 0.20? |
| [19:55:11] | maqe: | Juski: now i have tested with mplayer dvb://channel name and i get lock here. Any more ideas? |
| [19:56:57] | mac_: | Is there a guide how to compile 0.19 (or 0.20) on ubuntu? All the required packages |
| [19:57:54] | Juski: | maqe: nope. time to post to the mailing list |
| [19:58:29] | Hoxzer_: | What do you guys think about 0.2-fixes? |
| [19:58:58] | Juski: | hmm turned my fsb down to 100mhz on my athlon xp 2800 & not only is the temp more realistic, my 5V rail is very close to +5V |
| [19:59:13] | SlicerDicer-: | hello DMJC |
| [19:59:31] | Juski: | definitely need a new PSU |
| [19:59:45] | SlicerDicer-: | lol indeed |
| [20:00:32] | Juski: | lost about 600Mhz though but I'd rather that (and be able to finish this project) than reboots under load |
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| [20:02:41] | mac_: | Where is the mysql login data stored for mythtv? |
| [20:03:09] | Juski: | in the mysql 'mysql' database |
| [20:03:20] | Juski: | and ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [20:03:22] | feld: | Juski: i always delete that one. |
| [20:03:25] | feld: | :D |
| [20:03:30] | mac_: | Juski: second is what I wanted, thanks |
| [20:03:35] | mac_: | (duh, I didnt backup that.. YAY) |
| [20:03:42] | Juski: | second is in the fucking manual, but yet |
| [20:03:50] | mac_: | I know, I am being lazy. Thanks. |
| [20:04:04] | mac_: | You know, after recompiling myth 10times on a 1ghz box, one gets really lazy. |
| [20:04:17] | feld: | mac_: ccache it |
| [20:04:20] | Juski: | yeh well maybe I'll get as lazy as you one day. then you're screwed |
| [20:04:29] | fryfrog: | mother fucking SCORE! |
| [20:04:32] | mac_: | feld: hwo do I do that? |
| [20:04:42] | mac_: | Juski: granted, I am not as "lazy" at "real" work projects |
| [20:05:13] | feld: | mac_: install ccache on your machine |
| [20:05:18] | feld: | google it you'll find a guide |
| [20:05:20] | mac_: | That's it? |
| [20:05:21] | mac_: | ok |
| [20:05:22] | Juski: | we should all make a determined effort to stop molly-coddling users in here |
| [20:05:27] | feld: | it will cut down re-compile time considerably |
| [20:05:40] | adj: | i have a wintv go card, so i will be using software encoding. will an athlon 1.33 with 512 be enough to support mpeg4 encoding and playback simultaneously? |
| [20:05:57] | Juski: | adj: maybe |
| [20:06:07] | Juski: | I suspect not though |
| [20:06:15] | DMJC: | can mythtv transcode to h.264? |
| [20:06:20] | adj: | Juski: what options do i have? |
| [20:06:23] | Juski: | get a proper tuner card |
| [20:06:26] | DMJC: | hello SlicerDicer |
| [20:06:50] | Juski: | DMJC: nope, but maybe you could with nuvexport if you adapt it |
| [20:06:51] | adj: | would using another codec for encoding work also? |
| [20:07:04] | feld: | <iluvmythtv> Juski how can I play WMV14 format files on MythTV? they play fine on my MCE machine. |
| [20:07:06] | adj: | id rather not make additional purposes =) |
| [20:07:13] | Juski: | adj: you have a choice between rtjpeg & mpeg4 |
| [20:07:27] | Juski: | feld: no idea |
| [20:07:42] | DMJC: | when my tuner cards come this machine will be godlike.. |
| [20:08:08] | adj: | from the docs, it seems rtjpeg would be feasible on this box, but if not i guess i can get a real pvr |
| [20:08:39] | Juski: | adj: rtjpeg is much less heavy on cpu cycles |
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| [20:09:16] | adj: | i have plenty of hd space, that might be a solution then |
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| [20:12:11] | barry253: | still trying to troubleshoot my dvd ripping...don't want to be molly coddled, just a gentle nudge in the right direction will do... |
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| [20:13:41] | Anduin: | barry253: When it fails it is almost certainly a bad read, check your mtd.log (located in your temp import directory) |
| [20:14:00] | barry253: | that's the thing, i don't see an mtd.log in that dir |
| [20:14:26] | Anduin: | barry253: In the temp one, not the one where videos go in say Perfect or ISO. |
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| [20:15:08] | barry253: | nothing there either |
| [20:15:30] | barry253: | a "bad read" would indicate a bad disc? what if it happens on multiple discs? dvd playback is fine |
| [20:16:20] | xris: | visit0r: --rebuild didn't help? |
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| [20:16:50] | Anduin: | barry253: It means a single sector read failed, mtd does not tolerate faults, even ones you would never notice (this will be fixed in mtd one day) |
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| [20:18:01] | barry253: | ah...any workaround? |
| [20:18:54] | Anduin: | barry253: Use another tool. |
| [20:19:38] | sphery: | Anduin: 0.20 only changes the default player to Internal for MythDVD--not for MythVideo |
| [20:19:54] | sphery: | guy on the list was asking about MythVideo |
| [20:20:11] | Anduin: | sphery: Sorta, MythVideo file types that are known are changed to Internal as well. |
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| [20:21:01] | barry253: | ok thanks |
| [20:21:14] | Anduin: | sphery: I didn't change the default player because that would likely just break things more than switching a few file type over. |
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| [20:21:58] | sphery: | Yeah, I see it now. I hadn't notice because I've only really played AVI's (which aren't in your list) |
| [20:22:56] | sphery: | So, I didn't realize it had changed. |
| [20:23:00] | Anduin: | sphery: Yeah, I though about adding more file types but didn't only because it was a tiny bit more code no to overwrite existing ones. |
| [20:23:40] | sphery: | Next time I'll check code before I assume that not seeing a change means it didn't occur. |
| [20:23:54] | sphery: | Yeah. I think the ones you choose are a good set. |
| [20:24:12] | Anduin: | Well technically you are perfectly right, he took it the same way as well (he replied to me off list) |
| [20:25:48] | ** sphery makes a mental note never to question Anduin again ** | |
| [20:26:30] | Anduin: | bah I make mistakes/am not clear all the time |
| [20:28:24] | sphery: | Not as often as I, it seems. :) |
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| [20:30:07] | Twiggy: | anybody know why video playback through myth would be zoomed in heavily? Adjusting the aspect ratios doesn't help at all |
| [20:31:58] | sphery: | Twiggy, how heavily? Sounds like either a) overscan (normal and not a problem) or b) an improperly set aspect ratio override. |
| [20:34:23] | Twiggy: | heavily as in I only get the top left corner of the screen, I can't see the entire list if I press menu |
| [20:34:41] | Twiggy: | I've toyed with overscans, the image gets chopped at the bottom and right sides where it's zoomed in |
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| [20:35:12] | Twiggy: | as far as the aspect ratios, they're off and swapping them adjusts the visual a bit, but it's only displaying a chunk of the video, the added space is black |
| [20:35:48] | Twiggy: | I upgraded from 0.19 to 0.20, worked fine before, and the thumbnails in the Watch Recordings menu show the correct video, so I know it's recording the full thing, just not displaying |
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| [20:35:58] | xris: | Twiggy: tv playback, or the whole interface? |
| [20:36:04] | peppo: | any PVR 150 users here that use lirc_i2c? |
| [20:36:06] | Twiggy: | just playback |
| [20:36:12] | Twiggy: | interface is fine |
| [20:36:26] | xris: | weird. never heard of that. |
| [20:36:54] | Twiggy: | the closest I've gotten to it being normal was setting different video settings for the GUI and playback, but I had to set playback to 320x240, and all it did then was give a correct top 1/4 of the video, the rest of the screen was blue |
| [20:37:14] | Anduin: | Twiggy: Do you have the separate video modes thing enabled? |
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| [20:37:24] | Twiggy: | I've turned it off since, wasn't on before |
| [20:37:57] | Twiggy: | right now I have nothing special, standard decoder, no aspect overrides, no over/underscan settings |
| [20:38:26] | Pete__: | Just upgraded (well, new db now actually..) while listening to DVB radio I seem to get "NVP: prebuffering pause" every few seconds and the audio pauses.. |
| [20:39:31] | Pete__: | I also don't seem to be getting any of the MHEG data loading |
| [20:41:10] | Pete__: | I get the same problem with NVP: prebuffering pause with tv too |
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| [21:08:25] | sphery: | Twiggy: sorry, forgot to check back for a response... |
| [21:08:34] | sphery: | Anyway, what video output are you using? |
| [21:08:43] | sphery: | (video card?) |
| [21:09:39] | sphery: | If it's ATI or PVR-350, you probably have bad drivers. |
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| [21:12:23] | Twiggy: | I was just about to ask that |
| [21:12:31] | Twiggy: | I was getting 0.20 setup on my nvidia-based box to check |
| [21:12:41] | Twiggy: | I'll let you know in a few |
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| [21:14:47] | sphery: | What drivers on this box? |
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| [21:16:06] | Twiggy: | this second frontend is nvidia |
| [21:16:14] | Twiggy: | the backend with the video issue is a radeon 9800 |
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| [21:20:39] | sphery: | Twiggy: did you get the drivers from Livna? |
| [21:21:02] | Twiggy: | good question, my roommate set them up I'm looking at the howto now |
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| [21:21:06] | Twiggy: | it's an ubuntu dapper system |
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| [21:21:11] | sphery: | Oh, then not Livna |
| [21:21:36] | sphery: | Don't know about Ubuntu, but I've heard of this issue for Fedora Core users who enabled the Livna repositories. |
| [21:21:37] | Twiggy: | should it be? |
| [21:21:41] | Twiggy: | gotcha |
| [21:22:02] | sphery: | Probably the same issue, but I don't know where you can get working drivers for an ATI. |
| [21:22:41] | Beirdo: | hmmm, how about www.ati.com? |
| [21:22:48] | sphery: | You can either wait for an ATI on Ubuntu user in here or try #ubuntu (or whatever) |
| [21:23:04] | sphery: | Bierdo thinks sphery is stupid. (Perhaps with cause.) |
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| [21:24:15] | sphery: | ati.com would probably work--but I'm not willing to say that as I have no information to support or refute that statement |
| [21:24:19] | Beirdo: | if you are looking for ATI drivers for Linux, go to ATI's site as a first stop |
| [21:24:29] | Twiggy: | I believe that's the driver we have |
| [21:24:50] | sphery: | I don't even know what's wrong with the ATI drivers in the Livna repository that causes it to scale improperly |
| [21:25:05] | Beirdo: | likely a bad version :) |
| [21:25:08] | sphery: | Twiggy: you didn't get it from Ubuntu's repositories? |
| [21:25:21] | Beirdo: | I stopped using ATI for my PVR a while back |
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| [21:25:32] | sphery: | Yeah. That's the best solution. |
| [21:25:43] | Beirdo: | but my PVR's not even hooked up right now |
| [21:25:50] | sphery: | What? |
| [21:26:02] | Beirdo: | it's still in the box after moving |
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| [21:26:06] | sphery: | Oh. |
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| [21:26:15] | Twiggy: | Aye this was just a card we had laying around |
| [21:26:18] | Beirdo: | need to get a second cable box, etc. blech |
| [21:26:22] | Twiggy: | Ubuntu's drivers were problematic |
| [21:26:26] | sphery: | Was going to say, it's awful nice of you to continue to support Myth when you're not using it anymore... |
| [21:26:32] | Beirdo: | although I might just try the QAM trick |
| [21:26:58] | Beirdo: | oh, I plan on getting it running again soon |
| [21:27:08] | sphery: | definitely worth a try--at least to see what they send unencrypted |
| [21:27:22] | Beirdo: | but moving to another country and getting married... it puts a damper on the toy budget :) |
| [21:27:31] | sphery: | That would. |
| [21:27:35] | sphery: | And, congrats, BTW. |
| [21:27:40] | Beirdo: | thanks :) |
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| [21:28:25] | Beirdo: | the QAM trick is worth a try, and if I had a cable splitter, I could try it any time |
| [21:28:25] | ** kormoc softly taps Beirdo on his arm and points to the private message window. ** | |
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| [21:28:34] | Beirdo: | but all that gear ain't here |
| [21:28:36] | Beirdo: | heheh |
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| [21:37:44] | Twiggy: | sphery: yep, working fine here on the nvidia card, I'll toy with the ati drivers later |
| [21:37:54] | sphery: | gl |
| [21:38:24] | sphery: | Hope it's just a driver version issue, but you may want to ask someone else (who uses ATI) for more info. |
| [21:38:26] | ** Beirdo hands Twiggy a foam baseball bat to aid in debugging ** | |
| [21:38:50] | sphery: | Tell them you have the ATI drivers with the scaling bug that only shows the upper-left corner of the video on playback. |
| [21:39:02] | sphery: | (Now, all you have to do is figure out who "them" is.) |
| [21:39:04] | Twiggy: | ahh so it's a known thing eh? |
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| [21:39:07] | Twiggy: | haha yeah |
| [21:39:11] | sphery: | Yeah. |
| [21:39:13] | Twiggy: | it worked on 0.19 and 0.18, bummer it broke here |
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| [21:40:44] | sphery: | If it weren't a known thing, I wouldn't have been able to say, "If it's ATI or PVR-350, you probably have bad drivers." ;) |
| [21:41:36] | sphery: | Then again, an NVIDIA 5200 is a nice easy change to make. :) |
| [21:43:02] | Twiggy: | aye, and cheap :oD |
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| [21:47:17] | Juski: | evenin all |
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| [22:05:32] | enyc: | meep |
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| [22:07:07] | word: | Hi, when configuring 'mythtv-database' dpkg throws this error – Failed to execute SQL: GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON .* TO @localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'xikafqjd' You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '* TO @localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'xikafqjd'' at line 1 at -e line 8, <> line 1. |
| [22:07:54] | word: | As far as i can tell..it's using a default and wrong password for access to the mysql server...I've done a search for all files named mysql.txt and found 4, all for mythtv and with the correct password. |
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| [22:08:46] | Juski: | word is this on ubuntu? |
| [22:09:21] | Juski: | because the installer script makes a random password for the mythtv mysql user |
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| [22:10:37] | mah_meh: | anyone know if knoppmyth will be updated to .20 soon ? |
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| [22:10:46] | Juski: | more than likely |
| [22:10:54] | Juski: | let 0.20 settle for a bit |
| [22:11:12] | bigli: | hey guys im having a problem im wondering if you could help me out |
| [22:11:20] | Juski: | patience, fellow users, patience :) |
| [22:11:27] | Juski: | bigli: just ask |
| [22:12:21] | bigli: | right...basically i have a backend set on one PC (192.168.2.2)..i have a frontend set up on another PC (192.168.2.3). I've told the frontend to connect to 192.168.2.2 but im getting a MySQL error |
| [22:12:29] | bigli: | Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.2.2' (111) |
| [22:12:47] | mah_meh: | hey juski ") |
| [22:12:53] | mah_meh: | at it again i see ! :P |
| [22:13:06] | jonK: | bigly, have you checked the my.cnf file to see whether outside connections are allowed? |
| [22:13:22] | Juski: | change /etc/my.cnf to have 'skip networking' commented out or change the IP address mysql is binding to from 127.0.0.1 |
| [22:13:31] | mah_meh: | i wonder if installing 0.19 and attempting to update to 0.20 will fix dvb-t nova-t tuning issues |
| [22:13:47] | bigli: | i'll go check... |
| [22:13:53] | Juski: | mah_meh: 0.20 should work just fine anyhow |
| [22:14:05] | mah_meh: | i installed 0.18.1 but then it didnt detect my onboard nic *sigh* |
| [22:14:27] | mah_meh: | it should juski, but im still being lazy and would prefer a 'semi-complete' installation ala knoppmyth |
| [22:14:30] | Juski: | what didn't? the distro? whoops |
| [22:14:47] | mah_meh: | its a realtek too, i mean, how common are they !! hehe |
| [22:14:57] | mah_meh: | the 0.19 knoppmyth does at least ") |
| [22:15:08] | Juski: | I felt sort of bad about handing out knoppmyth CDs at a show a while ago, since I've never even used it to install any of my systems |
| [22:15:28] | Juski: | that damn conscience of mine |
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| [22:16:33] | mah_meh: | for a mythtv loser like me i think its pretty golden |
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| [22:17:03] | bigli: | right the bind-address was set to 127.0.0.1 ..... ive changed that 192.168.2.2 and get a different complaint |
| [22:17:15] | bigli: | Host '192.168.2.3' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server |
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| [22:17:43] | mah_meh: | theres an acl in the config file bigli |
| [22:17:43] | bigli: | skip networking is commented out |
| [22:17:46] | Juski: | better. back in irssi now |
| [22:17:57] | bigli: | acl? |
| [22:17:59] | Juski: | bigli: you'd need to restart mysql I reckon |
| [22:18:02] | mah_meh: | acl = access control list |
| [22:18:04] | bigli: | restarted it as well |
| [22:18:12] | Juski: | should work now then |
| [22:18:28] | bigli: | can you point me out to where the acl is in the config file? |
| [22:18:38] | Juski: | eh? |
| [22:18:42] | mah_meh: | somewhere near skip-networking |
| [22:19:00] | bigli: | and juski i tried restarting mysql, the error happened since then |
| [22:19:45] | Juski: | bigli: remember to change the mysql.txt file to reflect the new ip address or change the privileges? |
| [22:20:17] | bigli: | mysql.txt ? any idea where thats located? |
| [22:20:31] | Juski: | ~/.mythtv |
| [22:20:39] | mah_meh: | according to this , ip address security is in the db table |
| [22:20:40] | mah_meh: | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/connection-access.html |
| [22:21:02] | AngryElf: | installing .19 over top of .20 didn't exactly work.....mythfrontend --version reports 0.20, any ideas why? |
| [22:21:03] | mah_meh: | but ask juski, id go with what he says ") |
| [22:21:31] | ** Juski knows squat about mysql5 & access control lists (like wtf?!) ** | |
| [22:21:42] | mah_meh: | maybe some components were newer so didnt get downgraded angryelf |
| [22:22:01] | mah_meh: | just restore your backup ... bwahaha |
| [22:26:13] | mah_meh: | {From DOCS} |
| [22:26:13] | mah_meh: | If the following error occurs when you try to connect from a host other than the one on which the MySQL server is running, it means that there is no row in the user table with a Host value that matches the client host: |
| [22:26:13] | mah_meh: | Host ... is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server |
| [22:26:28] | mah_meh: | You can fix this by setting up an account for the combination of client hostname and username that you are using when trying to connect. |
| [22:26:28] | mah_meh: | If you do not know the IP number or hostname of the machine from which you are connecting, you should put a row with '%' as the Host column value in the user table. After trying to connect from the client machine, use a SELECT USER() query to see how you really did connect. (Then change the '%' in the user table row to the actual hostname that shows up in the log. Otherwise, your system is left insecure because it allows connections from a |
| [22:26:49] | mah_meh: | [root@mmkserv test]# mysql -usqladmin -p |
| [22:26:49] | mah_meh: | Enter password: |
| [22:26:49] | mah_meh: | Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or g. |
| [22:26:49] | mah_meh: | Your MySQL connection id is 4 to server version: 4.0.20-log |
| [22:26:49] | mah_meh: | Type 'help;' or 'h' for help. Type 'c' to clear the buffer. |
| [22:26:49] | mah_meh: | mysql> GRANT ALL ON *.* TO 'EdwardPeter'@'%' IDENTIFIED BY '123'; |
| [22:26:51] | mah_meh: | Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.14 sec) |
| [22:26:53] | mah_meh: | mysql> FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [22:26:55] | mah_meh: | Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.16 sec) |
| [22:26:57] | mah_meh: | mysql> q |
| [22:26:59] | mah_meh: | Bye |
| [22:27:05] | mah_meh: | i guess i could of just pasted http://www.experts-exchange.com/Databases/Mysql/Q_21579987.html |
| [22:27:18] | mah_meh: | thats how you do it, access control is setup in the DB |
| [22:27:30] | mah_meh: | i guess knoppmyth does that for you because i never had an issue with it |
| [22:28:31] | bigli: | mah_meh, think that page you linked me did the job |
| [22:28:54] | mah_meh: | yup, second one is more of a cheat sheet |
| [22:29:06] | mah_meh: | im always looking for the easy (sleezy) option ") |
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| [22:29:23] | bigli: | lol ive just come back and read everything you posted |
| [22:29:33] | bigli: | was too busy messing with the first page to notice :P |
| [22:29:48] | jonK: | bigli: you have things worked out? |
| [22:29:53] | bigli: | yeah i think so |
| [22:29:54] | briand: | Juski: you got a minute or two for a question (in /msg ?) |
| [22:30:15] | Juski: | briand: I don't do PMs for mythtv problems |
| [22:30:21] | bigli: | cheers guys, i'll be back if i get stuck again :) |
| [22:30:27] | bigli: | thanks |
| [22:30:35] | mah_meh: | im gonna pass out soon |
| [22:30:41] | mah_meh: | trip to glasgow has knackered me |
| [22:30:52] | mah_meh: | hopefully helpful bigli |
| [22:31:01] | briand: | Juski: well, it's mythtv-related, but not a problem. |
| [22:31:03] | word: | Juski: yes sorry for late response |
| [22:31:04] | mah_meh: | briand just ask here |
| [22:31:22] | Juski: | briand: I always say if it's worth asking, ask in public |
| [22:31:25] | mah_meh: | its not like you're handing over system password "> |
| [22:31:30] | briand: | okay. |
| [22:31:31] | Juski: | for the logs... |
| [22:31:31] | mah_meh: | passwords* |
| [22:31:48] | word: | Juski: how could i change the randomly generated one? |
| [22:31:53] | Juski: | jees if I start doing personal advice I'll have to start charging |
| [22:31:54] | briand: | upgraded from .19 to .20 (like everybody else).. and things are (mostly) working fine... |
| [22:32:02] | Juski: | word: google for 'change mysql password' |
| [22:32:32] | knoppMythNewbie: | Ok... got a number of DVD's ripped... How do I watch them? I went into media library / watch videos, picked one... hit the play button. It momentarily says "loading" and... that's all. What am I missing here? |
| [22:32:38] | word: | Juski: do i change it to the wrong one it's using? |
| [22:32:57] | briand: | apparently there's been some minor changing of the various theme .xml files... the "highlight" (selected) version of my buttons (not in the main menu, but in the various pop-ups) is barely distinguishible from the non-selected. |
| [22:33:08] | briand: | which .xml file do I need to tweak for that? |
| [22:33:24] | mah_meh: | as fabulous as you all are, i must pass out |
| [22:33:32] | mah_meh: | dont forget to judge Juski ") |
| [22:33:41] | Juski: | word: you don't need to change the password to _that_ one... just change the password for one you'll remember (say mythtv) and edit the mysql.txt file to reflect that |
| [22:33:43] | mah_meh: | err charge* , no idea where judge came from |
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| [22:33:51] | Juski: | briand: qtlook.txt actually |
| [22:33:55] | mah_meh: | told you i need to sleep ") |
| [22:33:58] | mah_meh: | night guys |
| [22:34:06] | Juski: | night mah_meh |
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| [22:34:44] | _mac: | Hi. Me Again. Segfault is fixed. |
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| [22:34:57] | briand: | Juski: ah. that explains why i couldn't find what i needed in the various xml files, doesn't it? ;) |
| [22:35:00] | Juski: | briand: either that or look at the graphic files used for the buttons... video-ui.xml, ui.xml, music-ui.xml will reveal their names |
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| [22:35:42] | Juski: | I had a fault in my wide theme for ages where the 'done' button looked just about indistinguishable in the mythvideo popups. it's fixed now (in the wide 2.0 theme) |
| [22:36:08] | Juski: | took 3 secs to fix in a bitmap editor ;-) |
| [22:36:11] | briand: | Juski: interestingly, a very similar-looking button is used in mythtv-setup (or in the frontend setup) in Keramik style... and, in there, it looks fine. in the normal user-interface, it doesn't. |
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| [22:36:31] | ** _mac is making progress.. standard xvmc acceleration works, via acceleration.. not yet. Hm. ** | |
| [22:36:46] | briand: | Juski: perhaps that is what i'll need to do.... lemme look at the qtlook.txt file, first... |
| [22:36:52] | Juski: | the theme files are a PITA to figure out.. I managed to (almost) by trial & error |
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| [22:37:22] | briand: | y'know what we need? a little WYSIWYG theme editor/creator |
| [22:37:28] | briand: | :) |
| [22:38:48] | Juski: | no shit! |
| [22:39:17] | Juski: | I'm all for that so long as colourblind Henry who made thousands of winamp skins gets in on the theming act |
| [22:39:33] | Juski: | er.. I mean DOESN'T get in on the theming act |
| [22:39:34] | word: | Juski: that made the problem slightly worse lol...still same error kinda though |
| [22:39:43] | briand: | Juski: hehe. :) indeed. |
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| [22:40:39] | Juski: | I can totally see the thinking behind these auto-configuring scripts, but they keep messing stuff up & as much as they usually make it easier to install mythtv, it's more of a problem when it goes wrong |
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| [22:41:00] | word: | erm i guess i can change it to the right way :-/ |
| [22:41:07] | word: | i mean the wrong password * |
| [22:41:12] | Juski: | I mean why choose a _random_ password anyway? it's not fort knox... |
| [22:41:14] | Chicory: | Well, this is significantly larger than I expected. O_o |
| [22:41:46] | Chicory: | Okay, right off the bat, I know that my ATI AIW 2006 card is notoriously not supported by MythTV. |
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| [22:42:56] | Chicory: | That said, what PVR-series capture card from Happagauge(sp) would do the trick? |
| [22:42:57] | Chicory: | *Happauge, my bad. |
| [22:43:16] | Juski: | pvr150, pvr250, pvr350, pvr500 |
| [22:43:19] | Chicory: | I've heard that the PVR-500 is essentially two PVR-150's in tandem, so maybe that's not the way to go — which one has the best video quality? |
| [22:43:42] | Juski: | newer ones, pvr150 & pvr500 are the best, allegedly |
| [22:43:52] | Chicory: | What's your preference? |
| [22:44:13] | briand: | Juski: that'd be mw_text_button_{off|on|pushed}.png, right? |
| [22:44:27] | Juski: | but be wary of the newer ones with samsung tuners (no way to tell til you get one I'm afraid)... the problems with them have supposedly been ironed out with newer ivtv versions |
| [22:44:31] | Juski: | briand: yups |
| [22:44:48] | Chicory: | Mmm ... |
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| [22:44:53] | briand: | 'k.. thanks, let me drag 'em over here and see if I can tell 'em apart on this monitor. :) |
| [22:45:01] | Chicory: | And buying direct is the cheapest? |
| [22:45:09] | Juski: | Chicory: not always |
| [22:45:15] | Chicory: | Newegg, then? |
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| [22:45:31] | Juski: | no idea. I'm in the UK & no nothing of this 'new egg' ;-) |
| [22:45:50] | Chicory: | XD |
| [22:45:53] | briand: | they ship overseas, don't they? newegg.com, Juski. :) |
| [22:45:58] | _mac: | ccache is REALLY nice. |
| [22:46:23] | Juski: | briand: I KNOW who newegg are.. just not in a position to recommend em to anybody |
| [22:46:33] | briand: | ah. 'k. |
| [22:46:36] | Chicory: | What platform have you been using? |
| [22:46:48] | Chicory: | Er, distro. |
| [22:46:48] | Chicory: | Distro-as-platform. XD;; |
| [22:46:49] | briand: | I've been very pleased with anything I've gotten there. I'd recommend them. |
| [22:46:51] | Juski: | Chicory: pvr150, but then I only need one analogue input |
| [22:47:09] | Chicory: | Mmm ... |
| [22:47:21] | Chicory: | Well, Christmas is coming up ... :P |
| [22:47:27] | Juski: | if you have plenty PCI slots, I'd prolly go for 2 pvr150 cards |
| [22:47:38] | Chicory: | Yeah, but I don't have 300-some USD. |
| [22:47:39] | Juski: | since it's actually cheaper (usually) to do that |
| [22:47:59] | Juski: | sell the PoS AiW card then ;-) |
| [22:48:08] | Chicory: | No integrated video. XD;; |
| [22:48:35] | Juski: | so buy a $25 Nvidia fx5200 or something |
| [22:48:50] | Juski: | you wanna nice PVR? you gotta spend a bit |
| [22:48:51] | Chicory: | Mmm ... |
| [22:48:54] | Chicory: | This is true. |
| [22:49:09] | Chicory: | I also have a tooth for 3D gaming. :s |
| [22:49:09] | Juski: | you could start off with just one tuner & get by with that |
| [22:49:14] | Chicory: | This is also true. |
| [22:49:24] | Juski: | less initial moolah |
| [22:49:29] | Chicory: | Aye. |
| [22:49:43] | Chicory: | Between the PVR-150 and the PVR-350, which one is better from your experience? |
| [22:50:11] | Juski: | if you're gonna be using mythtv a lot (and I reckon you will when you get used to it)... I seriously recommend you dump the AiW card anyway since getting those working in linux is years away |
| [22:50:18] | Juski: | do not bother with the pvr350 card |
| [22:50:25] | Chicory: | Oh? |
| [22:50:25] | Juski: | for that money you could have a pvr500 card |
| [22:50:31] | Chicory: | That's true. |
| [22:50:43] | briand: | Juski: dang it.. that's not the button. :/ |
| [22:50:53] | knoppMythNewbie: | But isn't the 360 the only one with hardware encoder and decoder? |
| [22:51:04] | knoppMythNewbie: | s/360/350/ |
| [22:51:10] | briand: | and, y'know what, Juski? I'm (finally) going to agree with you (and others) on the PVR-350 card. |
| [22:51:14] | Juski: | plus... it won't output digital audio. to play mp3s & divx/xvid and hear them you need to loop the pvr350 audio output into your soundcard's line input |
| [22:51:27] | Chicory: | >: // |
| [22:51:49] | Chicory: | I might go with a PVR-150 for now, then. |
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| [22:52:02] | Juski: | PLUS it looks very much like support for the pvr350's mpeg2 decoder is going to break for good in mythtv and it will not be fixed (no devs use pvr350 cards anymore) |
| [22:52:22] | Chicory: | That's an extremely good reason to avoid it. |
| [22:52:43] | ** Chicory faintly wonders how great his motherboard is ... ** | |
| [22:52:50] | Pryon: | Assuming I wanted to record a number of consecutive programs on the same channel with odd starting and ending times and I didn't want to miss anything, is there anything simpler/more practical than setting the "Live TV" recording profile to my desired specs and just setting it to "Watch TV" during that period? |
| [22:52:54] | Chicory: | It's some Gigabyte GA-K8N variety. |
| [22:53:11] | Juski: | Pryon: if you have enough free disk space, maybe |
| [22:53:25] | Pryon: | I do indeed. |
| [22:53:48] | Juski: | or just make a manual schedule to record a big slice of the channel. pity there's no way to split the resulting file in mythtv though |
| [22:54:05] | Pryon: | Yeah, well I have to demux/remux to burn to dvd anyway. |
| [22:54:25] | Juski: | set cutpoints & mytharchive can place chapter marks there IIRC |
| [22:54:51] | Juski: | or maybe not. seen talk of that but not had time to try it myself yet |
| [22:55:03] | Pryon: | I like the manual schedule idea, though. |
| [22:55:22] | Chicory: | I put together a 2000+ USD machine before realizing how shitty ATI's support is for Linux. |
| [22:55:37] | ** Chicory wasn't really considering Linux until after it was put together. ** | |
| [22:55:46] | Juski: | 10 seconds of googling woulda told you that |
| [22:56:22] | Juski: | their VGA stuff isn't all that bad apparently, but the AiW cards are unlikely to ever work in linux.. (the video in parts anyway) |
| [22:56:23] | Chicory: | True, but at the time I was looking at it as an XP machine. |
| [22:56:39] | Juski: | til you discovered how lame MCE is I bet... heh |
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| [22:57:08] | Chicory: | Argh, damn right. >: / |
| [22:57:37] | Juski: | one hour & 20 minutes to render a minute and a half of video... FFS! |
| [22:57:38] | Chicory: | Well, the AIW was on sale and it looked nice considering the build and the features, but not being able to use it under the operating system I se 90% of the time ... :/ |
| [22:57:55] | Chicory: | *use 90% |
| [22:58:16] | Juski: | maybe if you put it on ebay you'll get back what you paid for it. there are a lot of suckers on there these days |
| [22:58:39] | Chicory: | S'true. |
| [22:58:59] | Juski: | why buy new when you can pay MORE for 2nd hand on ebay?! |
| [22:59:04] | Pryon: | Oh, man. Largest block in a manual schedule seems to be 360 minutes. |
| [22:59:27] | Beirdo: | why would you ever want to record more than 6h? |
| [22:59:36] | Chicory: | XD |
| [22:59:40] | Pryon: | marathons |
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| [23:00:02] | Pryon: | Okay, I think I can get it in 6 hrs. |
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| [23:00:26] | Beirdo: | marathon? |
| [23:00:27] | Chicory: | I'm starting to get pissed about the lack of amd64-k8 support under Ubuntu, but that's another channel's wank. XD |
| [23:00:29] | Juski: | Pryon: good job the OS you use doesn't have some silly kind of file size limitation of 2GB eh? ;) |
| [23:00:30] | Beirdo: | as in the race? |
| [23:00:35] | Pryon: | hehe |
| [23:00:50] | deadlyninja: | when running mythexport, i get "DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'mythconverg.recordedseek' doesn't exist" and i checked and my db actually doesnt have a recordedseek table |
| [23:00:50] | fryfrog: | anyone doing gentoo and pxe / netboot? |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | Chicory, huh? Ubuntu has an AMD64 install |
| [23:01:05] | deadlyninja: | err, nuvexport i mean |
| [23:01:07] | Pryon: | Beirdo: As in playing 6 episodes in a row |
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| [23:01:27] | Pryon: | And scheduling them to take 70 minutes each :/ |
| [23:01:28] | word: | Juski: um it doesn't seem like that's the problem...i have a normal password set in side mythtv..that ones correct..as is the mysql.txt...but this configure script is using some other password |
| [23:01:28] | Beirdo: | Pryon, then tell it to record each individually |
| [23:01:36] | Beirdo: | oh, get a second card then :) |
| [23:01:52] | fryfrog: | I've gotten PXE netboot working, but a little bit into the boot scripts it seems to... lose networking? |
| [23:01:55] | Pryon: | Beirdo: I can do that, but the problem is that the *scheduled* start times don't always match the *actual* start times. |
| [23:02:02] | Juski: | word: stupid configure script |
| [23:02:09] | Pryon: | Yeah, 2nd card would be a big help. |
| [23:02:27] | Beirdo: | 2 cards with 5min pre- and post-roll should do ya |
| [23:02:37] | Beirdo: | anyways, gotta help make dinner |
| [23:02:45] | ** Pryon wonders if there's a local spot to pick up another 150 ** | |
| [23:02:53] | Pryon: | Probably not here in this jerkwater. |
| [23:02:56] | knoppMythNewbie: | Any hints on how to watch ripped DVD's on the monitor? |
| [23:03:01] | Pryon: | xine |
| [23:03:05] | Juski: | fryfrog: you DID build nfsroot into the kernel didnt you? |
| [23:03:09] | word: | Juski: is the only solution to change it to the improper one and change it back afterwords? |
| [23:03:17] | ** kormoc waves to Beirdo ** | |
| [23:03:19] | fryfrog: | Juski: yeah, on the client |
| [23:03:35] | Juski: | fryfrog: and the network driver is built in, not a module? |
| [23:03:39] | fryfrog: | the network startup script seems to totally *ruin* networking |
| [23:03:42] | fryfrog: | nah, it boots up |
| [23:03:48] | fryfrog: | i mean, i can get to a prompt |
| [23:04:02] | fryfrog: | but i get a lot of errors during boot, some like "can't find command find" or xargs |
| [23:04:05] | fryfrog: | which are *there* |
| [23:04:21] | fryfrog: | its like, something it does half way through the startup scripts ... kills networking for a moment? |
| [23:04:28] | Juski: | fryfrog: the main thing is, it boots :) |
| [23:04:32] | fryfrog: | also, *starting* networking *TOTALLY* ruins the shit |
| [23:04:35] | fryfrog: | Juski: yeah :p |
| [23:04:59] | Juski: | word: dunno. I ran into a problem with the ubuntu installer a few days ago – got pissed off with it & decided to compile it myself |
| [23:05:39] | Juski: | 'the user 'mythtv' seems to exist already....' PARPP! |
| [23:07:39] | Juski: | word: the solution I have in mind isn't nice, and I've never done it before myself, so I dunno exactly how to go about it |
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| [23:08:11] | defaultro: | good evening folks |
| [23:08:18] | Juski: | or you could just find the script & kick its arse into doing things properly.. i.e. with a non-random password |
| [23:08:39] | defaultro: | just got .20 installed. I've been trying to scan for channels but it's not able to grab any channels |
| [23:08:41] | Juski: | then email the new script to the package creator, complaining profusely |
| [23:09:00] | defaultro: | is QAM-256 capture broken in .20? |
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| [23:10:10] | Juski: | defaultro: check the -dev & -commits mailing lists |
| [23:10:34] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [23:11:43] | defaultro: | kinda weird, I tried Cable, Cable High, Cable HRC, IRC HRC High, HRC High but no channels found |
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| [23:15:07] | janneg: | Has anyone here recently heard of problems with transcoding profiles? |
| [23:15:58] | janneg: | I can't do a mpeg2->mpeg4 transcode even if I select the right profile which is also in the logs |
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| [23:17:18] | janneg: | And I have to reports of failing mpeg2->mpeg2 lossless transcodes somewhere in the standard mythtranscode parts |
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| [23:20:34] | knoppMythNewbie: | I have to move on to other things... If any body can suggest why I can't watch videos on my monitor, what I need to look for, or a link or something, could you PM? Thanks |
| [23:22:15] | naegling23: | question for everyone, when watching tv, I get a sound echo about 5 seconds or so later, its faint, but very annoying, I have the microphone muted (tv tuner goes to my mic. port on my soundcard). Does anyone have any further suggestions? |
| [23:22:46] | word: | Juski: i'm doing a search for any sql files with the random password it's tryin to use in it lol.. |
| [23:23:41] | Juski: | naegling23: yes. read the 'troubleshooting' section of the mythtv.org documentation. |
| [23:24:21] | Juski: | and erm.. it should go to the _line_ input. what's prolly happening is the mic input isn't being completely muted |
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| [23:24:39] | Juski: | because the tuner audio is 'too hot' for the mic input |
| [23:24:49] | naegling23: | yea....but if I put it in the line in, I get no audio at all |
| [23:25:16] | Juski: | naegling23: so change the recording mixer settings to use the line input instead of mic |
| [23:26:56] | ** Chicory is back. ** | |
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| [23:27:20] | Chicory: | I've noticed that Ubuntu has amd64-arch support, but various programs don't. |
| [23:27:43] | naegling23: | I cant seem to find the recording mixer settings, where are they exactly <----linux noob |
| [23:28:16] | kormoc: | naegling23, run alsamixer and press f3 if I recall correctly |
| [23:28:50] | defaultro: | Juski, I just tried atscscan and I was able to capture channels. I also didn't find anything in dev and commits. Should I submit a bug? |
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| [23:29:21] | defaultro: | Juski, scan for channels worked in my .19 |
| [23:29:45] | naegling23: | thats from within mythtv right? |
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| [23:29:48] | defaultro: | yes |
| [23:29:50] | Juski: | defaultro: I'd say to post on the mailing list about it |
| [23:29:54] | defaultro: | mythtv-setup |
| [23:30:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [23:30:15] | defaultro: | brb |
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| [23:32:39] | Chicory: | I hate to be a moron here, but how well can MythTV compress the resultant video files from recording? |
| [23:33:11] | Chicory: | I realize some cards have MPEG-2 encoding downpat, but how much more finely can the software side compress the files? |
| [23:33:12] | kormoc: | Chicory, that depends on your tastes/wants/needs |
| [23:33:19] | Juski: | Chicory: what kormoc said |
| [23:33:53] | Chicory: | ... I'd just like some playable episodes of "Avatar: The Last Airbender" after recording. :P |
| [23:34:07] | Juski: | playable? |
| [23:34:28] | Chicory: | It's a long story, but ATI's windows-side PVR software ... well, it wasn't a happy piece of code. |
| [23:34:53] | ** Chicory couldn't play back or delete the files he recorded at one point. ** | |
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| [23:35:08] | Chicory: | So my sights are not set so high. :P |
| [23:35:14] | Juski: | that's ATI for ya |
| [23:35:41] | Chicory: | Nothing high-definition, nothing too ornate or special, just well-compressed and playable. |
| [23:35:53] | Juski: | I shelled out £200 on an original AiW Pro many moons ago.. I got it to record 10 minutes of video after battling with their app for 2 weeks.. then nothing after that |
| [23:36:04] | kormoc: | myth can transcode into mpeg4... but again, how good that is for you depends on you more then anything else |
| [23:36:19] | Chicory: | MPEG-4 sounds fine. |
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| [23:36:48] | ** Chicory patpats Juski tentatively. ** | |
| [23:37:41] | Juski: | last time before mythtv I grabbed from VHS by borrowing a digital camcorder with video & audio inputs... blew me away how good & easy it was |
| [23:38:03] | Chicory: | That's true. :) |
| [23:38:50] | Juski: | no stupid bttv card clogging up the pci bus. I didn't even manage to get a 2ghz machine to capture full PAL res without dropping frames in windows |
| [23:39:05] | Chicory: | Hmm ... :/ |
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| [23:40:00] | Juski: | but in linux, it's much nicer... and with DVB & a pvr card... nicer still :) |
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| [23:40:55] | Chicory: | XD |
| [23:41:05] | ** Chicory is happy with his computer ... mostly. :s ** | |
| [23:41:31] | Chicory: | Considering how much I shelled out for the component parts and the effort put into it, I wish it would have OPENGL SUPPORT, DAMN IT. XD |
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| [23:42:20] | Sebulba02: | how do you NOT have opengl support? |
| [23:42:41] | Chicory: | It's an ATI AiW, that's how. :P |
| [23:42:50] | Sebulba02: | I'm thinking of picking up a $40 nvidia card..... Ohhhhhhhh... AiW. |
| [23:42:57] | ** Chicory has tried, stabbing at the dark. ** | |
| [23:43:02] | Sebulba02: | That's... unfortunate. |
| [23:43:31] | Sebulba02: | Do you actually have the tuner working? |
| [23:43:36] | Chicory: | No. |
| [23:43:47] | Chicory: | This is why I'm looking at getting a PVR-150 |
| [23:44:46] | Sebulba02: | ah |
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| [23:46:23] | d3ity: | Chicory, the 150 is a nice card. |
| [23:46:33] | Chicory: | That' |
| [23:46:43] | Chicory: | *That's what I've heard from Juski. |
| [23:46:52] | pushpop: | question, http://pastebin.ca/169532 would I just nano /.lircrc into that and write the required config to it? |
| [23:46:55] | Chicory: | And others, for that matter. |
| [23:47:41] | pushpop: | I should have pasted this http://pastebin.ca/169534 |
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| [23:49:07] | naegling23: | so kormoc, running alsamixer, you said to hit f3, but nothing happens, what exactly am I trying to do? |
| [23:54:30] | Chicory: | Not to be a moron, but is this what I'm looking for? |
| [23:54:32] | Chicory: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116625 |
| [23:54:51] | Chicory: | There are two versions; the other one appears to be MCE Plug-And-Play-skewed. |
| [23:55:29] | ** Pryon has the MCE version (also from newegg) ** | |
| [23:56:17] | Pryon: | No remote |
| [23:58:35] | regicide666: | I like the non mce one because of the irblaster to control my cable box |
| [23:59:01] | pushpop: | Hello, I got my remote working but it does not interface with myth tv, any ideas? |
| [23:59:27] | Pryon: | If I were going to use it with a TV within a year, I would have gotten one with the blaster |
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