| Thursday, September 7th, 2006, 00:03 UTC | ||
| [00:03:08] | kormoc: | pushpop-, synergy |
| [00:03:19] | kormoc: | http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ |
| [00:03:44] | madfactor: | Thanks guys. |
| [00:03:46] | madfactor: | :) |
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| [00:05:50] | pushpop-: | kormoc, great thank you. Exactly what I was looking for. |
| [00:06:02] | kormoc: | your welcome |
| [00:06:20] | Speedy2: | kormoc: Thanks, I didn't know about this either. |
| [00:06:21] | pushpop-: | 1 other question, do you think a 1.6ghz P4 with a Geforce MX 200 will be enough for a front end? |
| [00:06:24] | Speedy2: | What does it offer over VNC though? |
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| [00:06:49] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: you still want a video of the xbmc gui adjustment thang? |
| [00:06:58] | pushpop-: | And there will be HDTV involved. |
| [00:07:25] | Speedy2: | pushpop-: If you use XvMC you can do HDTV with a low-end CPU. Not sure if the MX200 will do XvMC @ HDTV resolutions. |
| [00:07:47] | pushpop-: | =/ |
| [00:07:55] | Juski: | pushpop-: doubtful the mx200 will be beefy enough |
| [00:07:56] | pushpop-: | what about a Geforce 3 Ti 500 |
| [00:07:59] | Speedy2: | pushpop-: That's an AGP motherboard? You can get piss-cheap AGP video cards. |
| [00:08:10] | Speedy2: | pushpop-: An nVidia MX4000 is like $30 |
| [00:08:20] | Juski: | pushpop-: minimum GF4 required for HD XvMC |
| [00:08:32] | pushpop-: | ok thats what I thought |
| [00:08:47] | pushpop-: | even a geforce 3 ti 500 which was 300 dollars 4 years ago =P |
| [00:09:05] | Speedy2: | I have a Ti4600 which was top-dog in it's day...now it's nothing. |
| [00:09:18] | pushpop-: | Ya I hear ya. |
| [00:09:27] | pushpop-: | ti 500 was the card before the ti600 |
| [00:09:33] | pushpop-: | ti4600* |
| [00:09:37] | Juski: | I threw out a 3DBlaster thing which cost me £200 when I bought it a few years ago |
| [00:09:52] | pushpop-: | haha |
| [00:10:06] | Speedy2: | pushpop-: I'd suggest an nV MX4000 or FX5200. The cards that are newer do not have "overlay" support which is a PITA to deal with sometimes. |
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| [00:10:45] | pushpop-: | Got cha, I also have a dell optiplex sitting in the junk pile with a 2.6ghz p4 it would be intel chipset based graphics what about that? |
| [00:11:10] | Speedy2: | Heh. Their XvMC does only a small amount of the work compared to what a new nVidia card will do. |
| [00:11:20] | Speedy2: | pushpop-: Are you in the US? |
| [00:11:30] | pushpop-: | Ya, |
| [00:11:34] | pushpop-: | I know im being cheap |
| [00:11:42] | pushpop-: | just have a bunch of shit lying around |
| [00:11:53] | Speedy2: | I wish my MB had AGP :/ |
| [00:15:16] | knoppMythNewbie: | Can anyone tell me how to select from two DVD drives on my myth box? |
| [00:15:17] | mchou: | Speedy2: lol |
| [00:16:12] | mchou: | knoppMythNewbie: simple. /dev/hd(x) |
| [00:16:44] | mchou: | where (x) is the appriate letter corresponding to the drive you wish to use |
| [00:16:54] | mchou: | appropriate* |
| [00:17:55] | knoppMythNewbie: | Um... in mythTV, the import and play don't offer a list of devices, I can't find an option in any selection function to pick one. I know that /dev/whatever is the DVD drive, but how do I get to pick one when I import? |
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| [00:19:08] | mchou: | knoppMythNewbie: huh?? |
| [00:20:00] | mchou: | knoppMythNewbie: Util/Setup->Setup->Media Settings->DVD Settings |
| [00:20:16] | mchou: | knoppMythNewbie: what's the big deal? |
| [00:20:47] | Aid`: | I am using FTA satellite for my mythtv setup. It has about 10 stations i would like to record. I can goto zap2it and get the program guides but the video source each only has 1 channel per location. How can i add multiple locations? |
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| [00:36:53] | madfactor: | is it best not to transcode at all? |
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| [00:42:25] | minor: | thank you for the previous advice, it got me moving, now I have a second issue |
| [00:43:09] | minor: | when attempting to load mythweb page, i recieve this error: Undefined index: PATH_INFO in /srv/www/htdocs/mythweb/includes/init.php on line 37 |
| [00:43:26] | minor: | any suggestions what may be causing that? |
| [00:47:44] | evilDagmar: | Not being configured. |
| [00:48:54] | minor: | I've followed the instructions provided and have revised the config files, I'm not sure what else to configure |
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| [00:54:27] | minor: | got it, the answer was at the wiki, rather than the installation instructions... I had to change directory permissions |
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| [00:59:36] | minor: | thank you folks .. see you later |
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| [01:03:13] | kash: | hmm |
| [01:03:22] | kash: | mythtv segfaults via libnvidia-tls.so |
| [01:07:18] | knoppMythNewbie: | mchou: I've found location of DVD Device: which is /dev/dvd... so I'm guessing I can't set up two. But I'm also guessing I could mount either of the devices as /dev/dvd, or something like that. |
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| [01:10:10] | bocaJ: | is there any way to change the brightness/contrast/hue/saturation settings while watching TV in mythTV? |
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| [01:35:17] | bocaJ: | how do I change the brightness/contrast/hue/saturation settings in MythTV? |
| [01:36:49] | kormoc: | bocaJ, check the file that lists what all the keys do? |
| [01:37:18] | bocaJ: | I looked through the frontend config and didn't see it :/ |
| [01:38:52] | kormoc: | bocaJ, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythtv/keys.txt |
| [01:38:56] | kormoc: | bocaJ, line 39 |
| [01:39:02] | bocaJ: | sweet! |
| [01:39:13] | kormoc: | like I said, read the file that tells you what all the keys do... |
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| [01:46:11] | gordonjl: | folks, please tolerate a newbie. This is a vanilla question. I want to set up a mythtv-based PVR, but I don't want to spend the cashola even for basic cable. Without paying dime one to my cable company, I'm getting 70+ channels, all the ones I want. I don't have a set top box, however. Is it possible to setup a mythtv box without using a set top box? Can I just plug a coax into some... |
| [01:46:13] | gordonjl: | ...hardware card on the mythtv machine? What can I do? |
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| [01:47:07] | kormoc: | gordonjl, yes, you can plug coax into a tv card, such as the pvr 150/500 or similar |
| [01:47:31] | kormoc: | it's the same as pluging coax into your tv |
| [01:48:08] | gordonjl: | that's great news, indeed. Will the remote that comes with the card take care of channel switching? |
| [01:48:23] | kormoc: | it can, if you set it up right |
| [01:48:32] | kormoc: | which can be a lot of pain and suffering |
| [01:51:51] | gordonjl: | I'm wondering if I can avoid the hardware config nightmare by just sucking it up and buying a pvr from a vendor |
| [01:52:12] | gordonjl: | slashdot had an article about a "silent" pvr machine for $560. 400GB hard drive, etc |
| [01:52:14] | gordonjl: | http://www.linuxtechtoys.com/ltt/product_info . . . ducts_id/237 |
| [01:52:19] | evilDagmar: | Well, then you wouldn't be *our* problem anymore |
| [01:52:46] | gordonjl: | evilDagmar: I don't want to be anyone's problem ;). I just wanna skip ads :D |
| [01:52:55] | evilDagmar: | Then just buy a TiVo |
| [01:53:05] | gordonjl: | evilDagmar: now you're being plain mean! |
| [01:53:15] | evilDagmar: | No, I'm not. |
| [01:53:20] | evilDagmar: | You said you just want to skip ads. |
| [01:53:37] | evilDagmar: | If you just want to skip ads, but a TiVo. |
| [01:53:50] | Speedy2: | gordonjl: If it involves Linux, it involves pain. |
| [01:53:55] | gordonjl: | I've put together machines before and I don't want to spend the time to do it. Tivo is a dissapointment for a variety or reasons, I feel mythtv is a better route |
| [01:53:58] | Speedy2: | gordonjl: Windows is a different kind of pain. |
| [01:54:00] | evilDagmar: | MythTV's version number starts with zero. That's supposed to be a strong hint that using it will *not* be easy |
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| [01:54:29] | gordonjl: | so, the pre-build boxes are a snare and a delusion? |
| [01:54:35] | evilDagmar: | ...meaning you're going to be spending a great deal of time reading documentation, troubleshooting problems, etc. |
| [01:54:48] | evilDagmar: | Pfft. Hardware issues are easily solved |
| [01:54:59] | kormoc: | gordonjl, they work well, it's just... it's linux |
| [01:55:14] | kormoc: | gordonjl, I've spent many many many hours keeping my mythbox running happy |
| [01:55:21] | kormoc: | gordonjl, and I haven't had many issues |
| [01:55:29] | evilDagmar: | MythTV is not for people who "just wanna watch TV" yet |
| [01:55:38] | gordonjl: | my experience with linux is FC3–5. I rely on yum for the most part |
| [01:55:40] | kormoc: | people new to linux tend to spend weeks before they get it working, and then it tends to break soon after |
| [01:56:14] | kormoc: | gordonjl, you'll need to admin a mysql install, keeping that happy can be a chore at times, as well as the mythtv deamon, and of course X and friends |
| [01:56:23] | gordonjl: | well, I'm a software developer, M$, J2EE. I set up linux servers, prefer Mac os x....and I floss every day |
| [01:56:32] | kormoc: | not saying it's that hard, but it's a lot to do if you're not used to it |
| [01:56:59] | gordonjl: | I don't do a ton of admin stuff on mysql, just backups and the like |
| [01:57:07] | kormoc: | well, if you're that knowledgeable, what are you doing in here asking simple questions when google knows them all? :P |
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| [01:57:34] | gordonjl: | 'cause I'm not a whiz-bang kinda guy with hardware stuff, especially video cards |
| [01:57:40] | kormoc: | heh |
| [01:57:49] | kormoc: | the pvr's website tells you all about the card |
| [01:57:50] | gordonjl: | the last time I looked into video cards was with the Voodoo3000 card to play Quake Arena |
| [01:57:50] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [01:57:57] | kormoc: | tv cards != video cards |
| [01:57:59] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [01:57:59] | Speedy2: | gordonjl: If you have semi-old hardware, it will probably work. nVidia FX5200 is a good video card... |
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| [01:59:25] | gordonjl: | so, software issues like mysql maintenance aside, do you think I could plug a coax into this box and be happy? http://www.linuxtechtoys.com/ltt/product_info . . . ducts_id/237 |
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| [02:03:55] | robbins876: | how can i tell if my files are being transcoded or not? |
| [02:05:18] | gordonjl: | Speedy2: kormoc: thanks for you advice. I appreciate it. |
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| [02:08:19] | Aid`: | robbins876: goto System STatus -> Job queue |
| [02:08:51] | hobophobe: | As far as using a rs232(db9) cable goes, is there a specific version of the serial cable needed? Can I use a null modem adapter on a f/f or m/m to achieve the same use/etc.? |
| [02:09:23] | Pryon: | robbins876: You might also look in the log for the backend |
| [02:10:08] | hobophobe: | Or should I go with a usb->rs232, or what would be the best way? |
| [02:15:55] | hobophobe: | Or am I just talking nonsense? |
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| [02:18:39] | ** Pryon wonders what the heck codec 94210 is ** | |
| [02:19:52] | hobophobe: | let me guess, "parser not found?" |
| [02:21:03] | hobophobe: | (at least, that's what the hits on google show it relating to) |
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| [02:22:40] | pipedream: | Why would my "LiveTv" recordings be auto-expiring immediately? New install with 140 gigs of free space |
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| [02:23:25] | pipedream: | My understanding is that either the root partition is being used (ex2/ext3) used as base install |
| [02:23:48] | pipedream: | Or, that I have two copies of the mythconverge database on my system. |
| [02:27:23] | Pryon: | hobophobe: yeah. And those seem to be the *only* hits. |
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| [02:30:01] | huggy: | is there a web frontend to the mythtvsetup? |
| [02:31:07] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [02:31:24] | GreyFoxx: | certain items are available in mythweb but most are not |
| [02:31:37] | pipedream: | How can I test to see if I have to databases named "mythconverge"? |
| [02:31:45] | hobophobe: | Dang I need to get a regular db9 cable m/f |
| [02:31:50] | pipedream: | *two |
| [02:31:59] | huggy: | dang and ty |
| [02:32:40] | radi0head: | Anyone knows when 0.19.1 is going to be released? Or maybe an estimation? |
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| [02:33:31] | qwertyfdsa: | hi |
| [02:33:32] | GreyFoxx: | radi0head: it wont be |
| [02:33:48] | radi0head: | GreyFoxx; You mean 0.20 is going to be the next release? |
| [02:33:51] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [02:33:54] | radi0head: | Nice! |
| [02:34:03] | radi0head: | Can wait for that! |
| [02:34:06] | GreyFoxx: | if all goes well this weekend, but we'll see |
| [02:34:14] | radi0head: | Oh my god yes! |
| [02:34:19] | pipedream: | Can anyone please help a newbie out? |
| [02:34:30] | qwertyfdsa: | can anyone think of a reason why I'm able to change channels when in "Watch TV" on my pvr250 but it doesn't change the channel when recording? (only started happening recently, worked fine for a long time before) |
| [02:35:24] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: what do you need help with? |
| [02:35:29] | radi0head: | pipedream; Don't ask to asl, just ask. |
| [02:35:46] | hobophobe: | pipedream, hmm, do you know what the databases are stored in or something? |
| [02:36:02] | hobophobe: | He's trying to find out if he has two 'mythconverge' databases |
| [02:36:15] | pipedream: | I want to figure out why my livetv recordings are auto-expiring, it is not set to auto expire anything |
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| [02:36:50] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: i had that exact problem, let me think to see if i can remember |
| [02:36:53] | qwertyfdsa: | the cause |
| [02:37:03] | qwertyfdsa: | i changed a seemingly unrelated setting |
| [02:37:28] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: are you relatively low on disk space? |
| [02:37:48] | pipedream: | hobophobe: I'm not sure what the databases are stored in it is one system with a combined front/backend |
| [02:38:41] | pipedream: | qwertyfdsa: I don't think I'm low on disk space, new install, folder (/home/mythtv/recordings) says I have 140 Gigs of free space. |
| [02:39:33] | qwertyfdsa: | what's your "extra disk space (in gigabytes)" setting? (tv settings->general) |
| [02:40:02] | qwertyfdsa: | (note, i may be completely on the wrong track here, so please listen to other people helping you too ) |
| [02:40:50] | pipedream: | qwertyfdsa: 1 Gig in the extra disk space |
| [02:40:59] | qwertyfdsa: | hmm no ide then |
| [02:41:01] | qwertyfdsa: | idea |
| [02:41:20] | qwertyfdsa: | let me describe the problem i had in case it gives anyone ideas (this was a long time ago) |
| [02:41:24] | pipedream: | thanks for your input, I appreciate it. |
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| [02:41:59] | qwertyfdsa: | i upgraded mythtv and around the same time disabled auto-expire in settings (i hadn't previously been using auto-expire either since no programs were set to do so) |
| [02:42:05] | ShockValue: | in this statement, which is the machine name, and which is the username? "grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv";" |
| [02:42:16] | qwertyfdsa: | and also my extra disk space setting is 0 |
| [02:42:38] | qwertyfdsa: | ShockValue: the % is the machine name i believe (not sure) |
| [02:42:47] | pipedream: | qwertyfdsa: is that what it is currently set at? Zero? |
| [02:42:52] | ShockValue: | ah ok |
| [02:43:11] | ShockValue: | so that basically grats full permission to anyone named "mythtv" on any box? |
| [02:43:34] | qwertyfdsa: | ShockValue: if they know the password "mythtv" |
| [02:44:29] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: yes... anyways apparently there was something hardcoded in the new version that made it blow up if those 2 settings were set like that (i don't remember exactly what) |
| [02:44:39] | pipedream: | I read on the mail archives that someone else was having this problem, but it wasn't resolved. Someone though maybe the recordings were eating into the root partition. |
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| [02:45:05] | qwertyfdsa: | well it still shouldn't expire them unless you have it set to |
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| [02:45:22] | pipedream: | I will try zero there and test it. |
| [02:45:31] | qwertyfdsa: | w/ my current setup i often run out of disk space and it just stops recording and starts erroring like crazy |
| [02:45:53] | robbins876: | if i buy a new harddrive, how hard will it be to tell myth to dump the shit to the new drive? |
| [02:46:05] | qwertyfdsa: | you can try, but the more i think of it, i dont think the issue i had is related to yours, so i doubt it'll work |
| [02:46:15] | ShockValue: | just chage the path in the setup |
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| [02:46:45] | qwertyfdsa: | robbins876: yeah, unless you want to use both drives for myth, which gets more complicated |
| [02:47:25] | robbins876: | i would just use the one, i think... |
| [02:47:33] | robbins876: | how hard is it to install a new drive in linux? never done that before |
| [02:47:42] | Pryon: | quite easy |
| [02:47:48] | sigger_: | can anyone comment on whether (generally) SATA drives are louder or quieter than PATA? |
| [02:48:02] | evilDagmar: | Man, why are there more n00b questions in here than ##Linux |
| [02:48:22] | robbins876: | because i know there's smart pepole in here that will answer my questions |
| [02:48:27] | robbins876: | people |
| [02:48:31] | qwertyfdsa: | evilDagmar: its a "total mythtv experience (tm)" :) |
| [02:48:33] | evilDagmar: | Ah... |
| [02:48:33] | pipedream: | okay, tried 0 as extra disk space, then went into Media Recordings and the livetv has a RIP at the bottom of the screen, I restarted Mythfrontend and it is now gone. |
| [02:48:45] | robbins876: | rather than talk about the "n00b" questions in the channel |
| [02:48:47] | Pryon: | robbins876: pop it in, linux should just see it (look in dmesg output). Use fdisk to partition (really easy if you just want to use the whole drive for a single partition). Create a filesystem in your new partition. Make an entry in fstab. Bob's your uncle. |
| [02:48:50] | evilDagmar: | Now that we've cleared up that you're a noob abusing a help channel, I'll go ahead and put you in the ignore list |
| [02:48:58] | evilDagmar: | Damn lamers |
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| [02:49:09] | robbins876: | right... |
| [02:49:37] | evilDagmar: | There are channels for people who don't know how to wipe with Linux. |
| [02:49:40] | Pryon: | there are probably pointy clicky things that handle the partitioning and filesystem making |
| [02:49:40] | evilDagmar: | This isn't one. |
| [02:50:17] | robbins876: | evilDagmar> thanks for the update, tom brokaw... any other hot news while you're around? |
| [02:50:19] | qwertyfdsa: | evilDagmar: you could just not answer (even silently /ignore) instead of being rude to people |
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| [02:51:37] | evilDagmar: | qwertyfdsa: No, because someone has to speak up when things start to drift away from the topic |
| [02:51:42] | robbins876: | i love linux. i love mythTV. but, i hate the linux elitists that want nobody new in their unix based circle. |
| [02:51:51] | evilDagmar: | Telling people how to tie their shoes is entirely off-topic for here |
| [02:51:57] | qwertyfdsa: | robbins876: trust me, not all of us are like that |
| [02:52:08] | evilDagmar: | Yeah, many of us actually respect channels. |
| [02:52:16] | robbins876: | that's why i ask in here, because there's very few people that are |
| [02:52:24] | sigger_: | well, the dude from lixsystems suggested that SATA drves are louder. I have a hard time picturing that an interface makes it louder. anyone? |
| [02:52:27] | ShockValue: | is there a set of docs specific to setting up a second front-end-only machine? |
| [02:52:40] | qwertyfdsa: | evilDagmar: it's called a community,... plus his questions /are/ mythtv-related... he's getting the drive for his myth box |
| [02:52:45] | evilDagmar: | ...and for the record, you don't go to a college professor to find out how to spell a word. |
| [02:52:59] | robbins876: | that's a red herring and you're argument is null |
| [02:53:03] | evilDagmar: | ...unless you're just looking to waste other people's time because yours is too precious to pick up a dictionary or ask your neighbor |
| [02:53:06] | robbins876: | your, not you're |
| [02:53:29] | qwertyfdsa: | but if you're talking to him already (and he's a decent professor), he won't mind you asking.. especially if the word is related to something youre talking about |
| [02:53:31] | evilDagmar: | qwertyfdsa: good. YOU walk him through it if you think he's on topic just because MythTV is somewhere in there |
| [02:53:50] | robbins876: | i don't recall asking you for any help, evil |
| [02:54:02] | ShockValue: | evilDagmar: you're creating more non-myth text than anyone else in here. |
| [02:54:07] | qwertyfdsa: | evilDagmar: i was going to, until Pryon kindly did so |
| [02:54:23] | Pryon: | evilDagmar's being relatively mild. Ask a C++ question in ##c |
| [02:54:46] | qwertyfdsa: | Pryon: that's a dogma thing though... a lot of hard-core C people hate c++ |
| [02:54:55] | evilDagmar: | At least I can competently defend my stance on the issue. |
| [02:55:12] | qwertyfdsa: | it's more like asking a gcc question in a c channel |
| [02:55:20] | Pryon: | Okay. As a question about Ubuntu in #debian |
| [02:55:28] | Pryon: | s/As/Ask/ |
| [02:55:49] | ShockValue: | how about a real myth-related question: is there a set of docs specific to setting up a second front-end-only machine? |
| [02:56:02] | robbins876: | how big of a harddrive partition can ext2 support? |
| [02:56:08] | ShockValue: | i read the docs on the site, and there's a bit scattered in there, but nothign consice |
| [02:56:17] | sigger_: | ShockValue: try the knoppmyth wiki |
| [02:56:32] | ShockValue: | hrm, that might work |
| [02:56:33] | qwertyfdsa: | ShockValue: i'm not aware of any (then again i'm not aware of much) btu it should be relatively simple, no? |
| [02:56:44] | sigger_: | I recall seeing something directly on point there |
| [02:56:45] | evilDagmar: | There's nothing really special to it |
| [02:56:50] | ShockValue: | it "should" be, but i like to read up before i screw something upo |
| [02:56:53] | ShockValue: | im not a linux wiz |
| [02:57:04] | evilDagmar: | It's less complex than you'd think |
| [02:57:35] | qwertyfdsa: | robbins876: theoretically 4 TB, on linux 2 TB (according to wikipedia) |
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| [02:57:57] | robbins876: | wow... so a 320GB drive would be supported just fine then |
| [02:58:04] | qwertyfdsa: | absolutely |
| [02:58:15] | sigger_: | so anyone get one of those systems from linuxtechtoys yet? |
| [02:58:40] | qwertyfdsa: | i'm using JFS, but my current myth "partition" is 448G |
| [02:58:48] | evilDagmar: | Frankly, I think if you were pal'ing around with a professor and made a habit of asking them spelling and simple math questions, you'd quickly find them reluctant to remain in your presence |
| [02:59:26] | ShockValue: | i'd also be reluctant to be in the presence of someone who keeps flogging dead arguments. |
| [02:59:42] | robbins876: | you speak truth |
| [02:59:56] | evilDagmar: | ...or who keeps on asking stupid questions. |
| [03:00:20] | qwertyfdsa: | evilDagmar: thought you were going to put him on ignore? |
| [03:00:23] | evilDagmar: | I did. |
| [03:00:39] | evilDagmar: | I get to see basic principles of computing cited from web pages typed into the channel tho |
| [03:01:00] | ShockValue: | and no, i wont be buying anything from linuxtechtoys... nothing special there except some overpriced stuff that looks kinda neat |
| [03:02:04] | evilDagmar: | Agreed. |
| [03:02:09] | evilDagmar: | Their prices are so-so at best. |
| [03:02:44] | pipedream: | qwertyfdsa: Okay, nothing in mythbackend.log except information that my livetv is auto-expiring |
| [03:02:48] | evilDagmar: | ...I also have my doubts as to the appearance of thei HTPC cases. Those look like CGI, not photos. |
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| [03:03:24] | sigger_: | well, I figure oneof their machines is prolly only about $110 more than at newegg, but given the number of hours it would take me to assemble it and update BIOS, get new nvidia drivers, etc. its a small $/hr time buyback. |
| [03:03:24] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: what exactly do you mean by livetv? (i have a relatively old install of myth so i think terminoligy has changed) |
| [03:03:39] | qwertyfdsa: | evilDagmar: what do cases have to do with mythtv? |
| [03:04:08] | sigger_: | I miss the opportunity to do my first "build". |
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| [03:04:18] | sigger_: | er, I would miss.... |
| [03:04:18] | pipedream: | qwertyfdsa: I have FC5, MySql 5, and MythTv 0.19 from ATrpms |
| [03:04:21] | ** ShockValue punches qwertyfdsa ** | |
| [03:04:27] | evilDagmar: | qwertyfdsa: To make it so people could actually record an *entire* program while they are in the middle of watching it, the single ringbuffer is gone. Now *everything* you watch is recorded in the LIveTV category and given a very very quick expiry threshold |
| [03:04:48] | evilDagmar: | 24 hours later or "whenever we need space for something that matters", those LiveTV fragments are tossed |
| [03:04:57] | qwertyfdsa: | ah |
| [03:05:03] | qwertyfdsa: | that sounds useful :-D |
| [03:05:13] | sigger_: | actually don't much care about the look of the case. it'll be in a wall unit. |
| [03:05:16] | ** qwertyfdsa has to get around to upgrading soon ** | |
| [03:05:25] | pipedream: | LiveTV on my system expires after restarting mythfrontend |
| [03:05:40] | evilDagmar: | qwertyfdsa: ...and in case you haven't noticed, many, many MythTV users are looking to make an HTPC, so they want the fancy looking case, and the silent or near-silent cooling. |
| [03:05:49] | evilDagmar: | Now, if you'll give up on trying to make an ass of yourself... |
| [03:06:25] | ShockValue: | bah, i dont understand why KDM requires most of KDE to be installed |
| [03:06:28] | ** qwertyfdsa refrains from replying ** | |
| [03:06:37] | evilDagmar: | For some reason, HTPC cases are being cut from gold and then transmuted to aluminum somehow |
| [03:06:52] | qwertyfdsa: | ShockValue: because kde is stupid like that |
| [03:06:58] | evilDagmar: | ShockValue: Mainly because most of KDM is built with libraries used by most of KDE |
| [03:07:26] | ShockValue: | but khelpcenter, kicker, ghostscript, .... sheesh |
| [03:07:42] | evilDagmar: | ShockValue: Ghostscript definitely should not be a dependency |
| [03:07:49] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: i'm sorry i have no idea... all my setup experiences are outdated... i'd check and see if the 24 hour period that evilDagmar mentions is configurable and set to 0 or something |
| [03:08:29] | pipedream: | Thanks for your help! |
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| [03:20:45] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: any luck? |
| [03:20:56] | pipedream: | no, not yet |
| [03:21:13] | pipedream: | I'm searching the web to find out how to query my mythconverge database |
| [03:21:35] | ShockValue: | whoa, it appears this little mini computer i have has a built in IR reciever.. how sweet is that? |
| [03:21:45] | ShockValue: | now, figuring out what driver i need for it.. thats the real challenge |
| [03:21:59] | pipedream: | Mail archives suggest that if two databases are installed that recordings could not really be recording. |
| [03:23:36] | qwertyfdsa: | how can you have 2 databases? |
| [03:27:08] | pipedream: | Not sure, reading through http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2006-August/145134.html |
| [03:27:22] | pipedream: | I found a similar issue, but no resolution |
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| [03:39:25] | poonj_: | hey guys...I'm having a problem with LIRC. I was able get the module loaded and it recognized my PVR-150 card... |
| [03:39:31] | poonj_: | when I try to use irw |
| [03:39:51] | poonj_: | it says connect: Connection Refused |
| [03:39:57] | poonj_: | anyone here have an idea as to whats wrong? |
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| [03:47:43] | pipedream: | Can anyone tell me where I can find the MySql log? I go to /var/log/mysqld.log but I am not allowed to read it with out logging in as root |
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| [03:48:18] | pushpop-: | how would I just install the front end... just run myth setup? |
| [03:48:28] | pushpop-: | is there a how to... to just setup a front end |
| [03:48:35] | pushpop-: | using the a backend from another machine? |
| [03:48:58] | evilDagmar: | pipedream: Suprisingly, that *is* mysql's log |
| [03:50:24] | pipedream: | Okay, thought there might be a different one like for mythbackend. Is it usually as informative as the mythbackend log? |
| [03:50:37] | sigger_: | pushpop- knopppmyth can run a frontend off a livecd |
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| [03:50:58] | pushpop-: | well im on a kubuntu machine |
| [03:51:11] | pushpop-: | that I want to be a front end |
| [03:51:17] | sigger_: | well then that doesn't help you :-p |
| [03:52:12] | qwertyfdsa: | poonj_: make sure lircd is running |
| [03:52:18] | poonj_: | okay |
| [03:54:18] | pipedream: | Not much to that mysqld.log It is helpful to know about it though, doesn't resolve my diappearing recordings :) |
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| [03:55:57] | qwertyfdsa: | did you check out if it's the reserved-for-root issue? (i very much doubt it though if you have 140 GB free) |
| [03:57:01] | rhuey: | buh |
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| [03:58:43] | pipedream: | qwertyfdsa: How do i go about determing that? I did a #df -h and it listed the disk and drives |
| [04:01:26] | Speedy2: | poonj_: For lirc, make sure in the /dev folder you have the right entries |
| [04:01:34] | poonj_: | Speedy2, |
| [04:01:36] | Speedy2: | poonj_: Sometimes it likes to create the entries with a '0' |
| [04:01:42] | pipedream: | This is the log from mythbackend: AutoExpire: Found 1 recorders w/max rate of 72 MiB/min |
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| [04:01:49] | poonj_: | i have a /dev/lirc/ and /dev/lirc0 |
| [04:02:03] | pipedream: | AutoExpire: Required Free Space: 2.1 GB w/freq: 10 min |
| [04:02:14] | Speedy2: | poonj_: When you start lircd, does the log mention it successfully talks to /dev/lirc ? |
| [04:02:48] | poonj_: | Sep 6 21:02:35 mythtv lircd: lircd(hauppauge_pvr150) ready |
| [04:02:52] | poonj_: | thats what it says in the logs |
| [04:03:02] | Speedy2: | poonj_: When you start irw, what does the log say then? |
| [04:03:37] | qwertyfdsa: | 2006-09–06 22:29:11.486 AutoExpire: Found 2 recorders w/max rate of 144 MiB/min |
| [04:03:37] | qwertyfdsa: | 2006-09–06 22:29:11.487 AutoExpire: space: 2.1 GB w/freq: 10 min |
| [04:03:41] | poonj_: | Sep 6 21:03:04 mythtv lircd: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| [04:03:42] | qwertyfdsa: | i get that |
| [04:03:51] | qwertyfdsa: | but no autoexpiring actually happens |
| [04:04:36] | Speedy2: | poonj_: Are you running as root? That's helpful for debugging. |
| [04:04:48] | poonj_: | yes |
| [04:05:07] | Speedy2: | poonj_: irw is still saying connection refused? |
| [04:05:09] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: dumpe2fs -h /dev/sda2|grep Reserved (replace /dev/sda2 with your partition) |
| [04:05:11] | pipedream: | qwertyfdsa: here is an example of it recording LiveTv and immediately deleting it: scheduler: Finished recording: Baseball Tonight: channel 1035 |
| [04:05:12] | pipedream: | 2006-09–05 20:10:22.738 autoexpire: Expiring Program: Expiring: Baseball Tonight Tue Sep 5 20:00:00 2006 5 MBytes |
| [04:06:17] | qwertyfdsa: | and youre sure mythtv is recording to the drive that has 140 GB free? |
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| [04:06:27] | d3ity: | hey all, question for you. I've got digital cable now |
| [04:06:36] | d3ity: | and I was wondering about tuning in digital channels with mythtv |
| [04:06:37] | ** qwertyfdsa hates digital cable ** | |
| [04:07:23] | pipedream: | yes, it is recording, I see the physical file in the folder after I log out of mythfrontend. When I go back into mythfrontend to view recordings it is gone and mythbackend log documents that it was auto-expired |
| [04:07:24] | poonj_: | Speedy2, I don't see a response when I run irw |
| [04:07:29] | poonj_: | thats the problem I'm having right now |
| [04:07:47] | Speedy2: | And the lircd log does not show anymore? I could swore I had this problem, I'm trying to think what it was. |
| [04:08:08] | Speedy2: | poonj_: It's talking to your Hauppauge card's IR port directly, right? Avoiding the serial port, etc? |
| [04:08:15] | poonj_: | yeah |
| [04:08:27] | qwertyfdsa: | make sure you have the right remote config? (there were a lot out there for my pvr-250 remote, only 1 worked) |
| [04:08:40] | qwertyfdsa: | also of course make sure the receiver is plugged in the right place |
| [04:08:52] | poonj_: | well |
| [04:09:01] | poonj_: | what is the program to help me determine what I'm using? |
| [04:09:03] | poonj_: | ircat? |
| [04:09:23] | qwertyfdsa: | i honestly don't remember |
| [04:09:29] | pipedream: | qwerty: tried the dumpe2fs was told command not found |
| [04:10:00] | qwertyfdsa: | need to run as root |
| [04:10:05] | Speedy2: | poonj_: If you check the lirc docs, there's a command that gives you raw output. I thought that was irw, but it may not be. |
| [04:10:06] | pipedream: | was root |
| [04:10:17] | qwertyfdsa: | that's really weird |
| [04:10:21] | qwertyfdsa: | wait |
| [04:10:25] | sigger_: | Speedy2: mode2, isn't it? |
| [04:10:30] | d3ity: | hrm, it's tweaking out |
| [04:10:45] | qwertyfdsa: | yeah that's odd, its a standard program |
| [04:10:49] | d3ity: | Is it possible to tune in HBO and other pay channels through myth? |
| [04:11:10] | Anduin: | d3ity: Only through an external STB |
| [04:11:41] | d3ity: | Anduin, so I'd have to use a cable box? |
| [04:11:47] | Anduin: | d3ity: Yes |
| [04:11:53] | d3ity: | is there a way to change the channel through the cable box? |
| [04:12:01] | Anduin: | d3ity: Of course |
| [04:12:04] | qwertyfdsa: | d3ity: you need either a digital interface with your cable box (rare afaik) or use an irblaster |
| [04:12:07] | d3ity: | Anduin, lemme guess, lirc transmitter |
| [04:12:24] | Speedy2: | sigger: I think that's right. |
| [04:12:26] | d3ity: | damnit, i had enough trouble putting my reciever together |
| [04:12:27] | Anduin: | d3ity: or serial, or firewire (depends) |
| [04:12:28] | Speedy2: | poonj_: try 'mode2' |
| [04:12:39] | poonj_: | mode2? |
| [04:12:50] | d3ity: | so basically, I can only get the non digital channels through myth |
| [04:12:57] | Speedy2: | Yes, mod2 |
| [04:12:58] | Speedy2: | mode2 |
| [04:13:03] | d3ity: | is there a way to just have mythtv watch a composite video input on my card? |
| [04:13:19] | poonj_: | nothign |
| [04:13:26] | Anduin: | d3ity: You can get those analog channels your cable provider makes available and your card can tune, yes. |
| [04:13:42] | sigger_: | if mode2 isn't getting anythign irw definietly wouldn't anywy |
| [04:13:43] | Anduin: | d3ity: Yes there is |
| [04:13:49] | d3ity: | Anduin, my cable box has RCA style phono outs on it |
| [04:13:52] | poonj_: | hold on |
| [04:13:55] | poonj_: | let me compile another kernel |
| [04:13:59] | poonj_: | I mean module |
| [04:14:10] | poonj_: | I'm using some patched version of lirc for the pvr-150 |
| [04:14:16] | d3ity: | Anduin, if I used the composite video and audio out from those, could I just use the composite input on my tuner card as another capture device? |
| [04:14:17] | poonj_: | is that necessary? |
| [04:14:54] | Anduin: | d3ity: In ancient times every sound card you bought came with an RCA->stereo plug, if not many local stores will sell you one. |
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| [04:15:14] | Anduin: | d3ity: Yes, that is how it is done, you just configure another input. |
| [04:15:20] | ShockValue: | anyone want to trade something for my PC-HD3000 ? |
| [04:15:59] | Anduin: | ShockValue: All I have are several days of anger and frustration, not sure it wouldn't just be an even swap. |
| [04:16:16] | ShockValue: | if you could bottle that, i bet someone somewhere would pay for it |
| [04:16:43] | pipedream: | Same here, all I have is a crazy linux mythtv box that won't hold on to any recordings :) |
| [04:17:12] | Anduin: | pipedream: Just abandon live TV |
| [04:17:14] | ShockValue: | i spent a bunch of time + money trying to get "free" HD, but where i live, the reception just sucks |
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| [04:17:50] | pipedream: | Probably not a bad idea |
| [04:18:17] | ** qwertyfdsa rarely (basically never) uses "Watch TV" ** | |
| [04:18:19] | pipedream: | I had this same issue using Ubuntu, and now with FC5 |
| [04:18:47] | Anduin: | pipedream: The distro is seldom the problem. |
| [04:19:00] | pipedream: | I realize that! Ha-ha! |
| [04:19:02] | poonj_: | yeah |
| [04:19:04] | poonj_: | this is weird |
| [04:19:09] | poonj_: | I don't know why I'm not getting anything |
| [04:19:14] | poonj_: | could be the detector? |
| [04:19:22] | qwertyfdsa: | dead batteries? |
| [04:19:26] | poonj_: | I tried new ones |
| [04:19:33] | pipedream: | I'm convinced it is due to the fact that I am using the base system file install |
| [04:19:48] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: huh? |
| [04:20:10] | pipedream: | a lot of guides recommend having an LVM or jfs file system for your recordings |
| [04:20:14] | sigger_: | poonj_: what kind of IR receiver? |
| [04:20:16] | qwertyfdsa: | poonj_: theoretically you could install windows to make sure the hardware works |
| [04:20:31] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: that shouldn't magically make things auto-expire |
| [04:20:39] | poonj_: | its the one that came with the retail PVR-150 |
| [04:20:43] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: i had ext2 for a while before switching |
| [04:20:47] | ShockValue: | pipedream: have you run frontend/backend with verbose logging? |
| [04:20:48] | Anduin: | pipedream: ext2/3 isn't to blame |
| [04:21:03] | pipedream: | ShockValue: yes |
| [04:21:23] | pipedream: | Anduin: that is good to know, one less thing to consider |
| [04:21:40] | sigger_: | poonj_: try recompiling lirc? it helped me (with a different receiver) |
| [04:21:53] | poonj_: | sigger, I Did |
| [04:21:57] | poonj_: | which receiver am I supposed to use? |
| [04:22:11] | poonj_: | I am using the hauppage drives.. |
| [04:22:12] | poonj_: | drivers.. |
| [04:22:26] | sigger_: | ah, I saw above that you recompiled a module. didn't realize you recompiled lirc also |
| [04:22:35] | pipedream: | ShockValue: back up a second what is verbose logging? How do I activate that? I have a mythbackend log, but not a frontend one |
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| [04:22:46] | ShockValue: | pipedream: sec |
| [04:22:57] | defaultro: | evening folks |
| [04:23:30] | poonj_: | yeah |
| [04:23:35] | poonj_: | let me try shooting the remote into a webcam |
| [04:23:38] | pipedream: | when I run mythfrontend from a terminal I get the following: Enabled verbose msgs: important general |
| [04:23:55] | Anduin: | pipedream: -v all (or general,file,playback,etc) |
| [04:24:12] | ShockValue: | pipedream: something like this will log everything: mythfrontend -v all -l /home/mythtv/mythfrontend.log |
| [04:24:30] | defaultro: | I don't know if I'm missing a step. I'm trying to grab local HD channels from my comcast. I'm using atscscan to do qam_256 scan. I was able to pull those HD channels in the old house. But here in new house, I'm not able to grab it. Any clues where I'm wrong? |
| [04:24:50] | ShockValue: | sure you got signal? |
| [04:24:56] | defaultro: | yes |
| [04:24:56] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: do you feel comfortable messing with source? |
| [04:25:04] | ShockValue: | err comcast, nm.. thought you meant OTA |
| [04:25:06] | defaultro: | i'm able to watch cable now from comcast |
| [04:25:09] | defaultro: | comcast |
| [04:25:11] | defaultro: | not OTA |
| [04:25:19] | defaultro: | it's QAM256 |
| [04:25:35] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: never mind |
| [04:25:39] | ShockValue: | there's some flag somewhere which says it can be decoded or not.. i forget what that's all about though.. |
| [04:25:47] | ShockValue: | you know what i mena? |
| [04:25:48] | pipedream: | qwerty: not terribly comfy |
| [04:25:50] | ShockValue: | mean |
| [04:25:51] | Anduin: | pipedream: Do you see the expire with longer recordings? (The expire message you pasted had a very small file size, small enough that it would land in the tiny live tv category and be expired much faster) |
| [04:25:56] | defaultro: | but local HD are sent in clear |
| [04:26:13] | qwertyfdsa: | pipedream: if you have verbose logging you should get a message that looks like "Running autoexpire, we want xx MB free, but only have yy MB" |
| [04:26:23] | qwertyfdsa: | i imagine that would be very useful to look at |
| [04:26:41] | sigger_: | poonj_: and just for the sake of completeness, the modules you're using are lirc_dev and lirc_i2c, right |
| [04:26:55] | pipedream: | Anduin: No, I don't, I scheduled a 30 min program and it sticks in the media library |
| [04:27:05] | pipedream: | let me check out my frontend log |
| [04:27:13] | qwertyfdsa: | should be in the backend |
| [04:27:18] | poonj_: | yes |
| [04:27:18] | poonj_: | I am |
| [04:27:21] | qwertyfdsa: | are you running with -v all ? |
| [04:28:00] | defaultro: | i'll try my other HDTV tuner card |
| [04:28:16] | qwertyfdsa: | then again i'm looking at old source, most likely everything has changed (anyone know if myth will expire things even if it has plenty of space?) |
| [04:28:23] | ShockValue: | defaultro: i recall reading someplace you can look at the stream with a certian command to check its coming through ok, but i was doing OTA so i never paid attention :/ |
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| [04:28:31] | defaultro: | ah, that's cool |
| [04:28:31] | mortal5: | knock knock |
| [04:28:32] | Anduin: | pipedream: if it isn't over two minutes a live TV recording will be deleted the next time the auto expire is run |
| [04:28:44] | defaultro: | can you try to recall it please |
| [04:28:48] | defaultro: | is it dvbscan? |
| [04:28:49] | ** ShockValue tries ** | |
| [04:29:18] | defaultro: | and also, i was using mplayer before but I couldn't remember what tool I piped to mplayer |
| [04:29:55] | mortal5: | I need help with the instructions on this page |
| [04:29:58] | mortal5: | http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/17/32/ |
| [04:30:11] | mortal5: | mythtv-setup says it can't find my database |
| [04:30:38] | pipedream: | Anduin: Thanks for that information, that is very helpful. I'll quit being concerned about it then! |
| [04:30:46] | mortal5: | is it looking for the mysql db? |
| [04:31:25] | ShockValue: | yes |
| [04:32:19] | ShockValue: | mortal5: did you read this? "Note: If you do not run mythtv-setup as the mythtv user a file ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt will not be in the mythtv user's home directory. Without this file, mythfrontend cannot connect to the database and you will get mythbackend errors. Either copy the file or run mythtv-setup as the mythtv user." |
| [04:33:53] | mortal5: | ShockValue: i can't run that as the mythtv user |
| [04:33:58] | mortal5: | it's not in my path |
| [04:34:21] | defaultro: | SHockvalue, atscscan found 131 services |
| [04:34:38] | defaultro: | i'm going to run azap now to make sure it will lock it |
| [04:36:10] | ShockValue: | defaultro: something about the "5c" flag.. |
| [04:36:13] | ShockValue: | not sure how to check it |
| [04:36:29] | ShockValue: | mortal5: mysql is started and mythtv user has access? |
| [04:36:42] | defaultro: | 5c is only applicable to non local HD channels |
| [04:37:15] | ShockValue: | in theory, but some places turn it on for all channels, i think.. or at least thats the complaint |
| [04:37:33] | ShockValue: | sorry, kinda grasping at straws trying to help out, but ive only dont OTA stuff |
| [04:37:57] | defaultro: | k |
| [04:38:54] | ShockValue: | where's mchou? no one has been here to attempt to make me feel like an idiot for like over an hour |
| [04:39:23] | qwertyfdsa: | g'night, good luck to everybody |
| [04:39:34] | defaultro: | what is it Shock? |
| [04:39:38] | pipedream: | thanks qwerty!! |
| [04:39:51] | ShockValue: | oh nothin, just filling in the whitespace |
| [04:39:51] | qwertyfdsa: | no problem, sorry i couldn't help more |
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| [04:40:10] | ShockValue: | anyone in the greater seattle area using comcast+digital+hd? |
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| [04:40:40] | defaultro: | xris is in seattle |
| [04:40:47] | defaultro: | SlicerDicer is in seattle |
| [04:40:59] | ShockValue: | oh yeah! i remember that.. he was chatting to me a long time ago about that |
| [04:40:59] | defaultro: | how are you recording HD? |
| [04:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am not in Seattle!!!!!! |
| [04:41:05] | defaultro: | pj |
| [04:41:07] | defaultro: | oh |
| [04:41:08] | defaultro: | hey bud |
| [04:41:12] | SlicerDicer-: | how dare you say I am in seattle :) |
| [04:41:16] | defaultro: | lol |
| [04:41:17] | SlicerDicer-: | I am in North Bend |
| [04:41:21] | defaultro: | where is North Bend |
| [04:41:22] | Krazylegz: | kormoc is in Seattle too. |
| [04:41:31] | ShockValue: | right now im not recording HD.. i was doing OTA, but my reception sucks out here in the stix |
| [04:41:44] | ShockValue: | Slicer- you doing HD comcast in North Bend? |
| [04:41:48] | SlicerDicer-: | He is in Lynnwood Krazylegz :) |
| [04:41:48] | defaultro: | SlicerDicer, I'm picking up the DCT 6200 tomorrow |
| [04:41:59] | SlicerDicer-: | yeppers ShockValue |
| [04:42:23] | defaultro: | I also upgraded my package for $10 more. I will have Discovery HD, ESPN HD, and so on. We'll try recording via firewire |
| [04:42:25] | ShockValue: | sweet.. i think im gonna sign up. thinking 3x62xx -> mythbackend + 2 frontends |
| [04:42:55] | defaultro: | Slicer, is your 6200 or 6214? |
| [04:42:56] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: I got daisy chain buddy :) |
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| [04:43:06] | SlicerDicer-: | I got the 6200 and the 3414? |
| [04:43:07] | ShockValue: | explain? |
| [04:43:16] | Krazylegz: | SlicerDicer-: Wherever he is, I had a real tough time finding it! |
| [04:43:18] | defaultro: | why question mark? |
| [04:43:23] | SlicerDicer-: | http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicerstuff/mythsetup.jpg |
| [04:43:26] | SlicerDicer-: | check that ShockValue |
| [04:43:38] | poonj_: | oka |
| [04:43:40] | poonj_: | I have no idea |
| [04:43:46] | poonj_: | I can't test my remote |
| [04:43:47] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah north bend is 31 miles east of Heroin "AKA Smack CIty" ;-) |
| [04:43:49] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [04:43:52] | defaultro: | I hope you'll be hear tomorrow to help me out with firewire |
| [04:44:00] | defaultro: | oops |
| [04:44:04] | defaultro: | you will be here |
| [04:44:14] | ShockValue: | what do you mean "daisy chain" |
| [04:44:16] | mortal5: | ShockValue: well, i don't think there's a mythtv user in my table |
| [04:44:28] | defaultro: | cascaded – daisy chain |
| [04:44:30] | mortal5: | the mysql table |
| [04:44:43] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: box 1 plugged into computer, box 2 plugged into box one, box 3 plugged into box 2 |
| [04:44:46] | SlicerDicer-: | daisychain |
| [04:44:59] | ShockValue: | interesting, and you can change channels and stuff ok like that? |
| [04:45:03] | defaultro: | Shock, like your multiple IDE harddisk |
| [04:45:04] | SlicerDicer-: | sure |
| [04:45:17] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: I am wanting to take advantage of my dual tuner one |
| [04:45:20] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [04:45:24] | ShockValue: | yeah i grasp the concept of daisy chain, just wanted to understand the details in this context |
| [04:45:26] | SlicerDicer-: | 4 tuners FTW! ;-) |
| [04:45:37] | rhuey: | Hi All.... |
| [04:45:45] | SlicerDicer-: | I actually want to axe out a tuner so I am not running 3 |
| [04:45:46] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [04:46:00] | ShockValue: | there isnt enough stuff on tv to have more than 2 i think :) |
| [04:46:04] | mortal5: | brb |
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| [04:46:11] | defaultro: | am I doing it correct on QAM_256? I used azap to see FE_HAS_LOCK, then on another window, I used cat dvr0 > test.mpg |
| [04:46:15] | rhuey: | Anyone here had problems getting the ALSA to recognize a sound card? |
| [04:46:16] | ShockValue: | 4 boxes = 3x the crap i delete :) |
| [04:46:42] | ShockValue: | KDE finally installed on my 1.2ghz box... afk. |
| [04:47:01] | rhuey: | I've put together a new Knoppmyth boxen but I'm unable to get any sound from the machine.... |
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| [04:49:11] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: I record tons of docos |
| [04:49:15] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont watch them all |
| [04:49:18] | SlicerDicer-: | but I got plenty plenty |
| [04:49:22] | SlicerDicer-: | so I am never bored |
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| [04:50:26] | ShockValue: | i like those too.. astronomy/science ones specially |
| [04:51:28] | rhuey: | Can anyone provide advise on where to go next with the sound prob. I;m having? |
| [04:52:18] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: check pvt msg |
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| [05:02:26] | poonj_: | on my PVR-150 IR detector |
| [05:02:29] | poonj_: | there are two heads.. |
| [05:02:34] | poonj_: | one that is red and the other that is grey.. |
| [05:02:45] | poonj_: | what are the functions of those detectors? |
| [05:02:49] | poonj_: | one is for IR right? |
| [05:02:55] | poonj_: | the other one, when I plug it in, flashes for a second |
| [05:03:01] | poonj_: | is that normal? |
| [05:03:58] | Anduin: | poonj_: It is a transmitter/receiver |
| [05:04:15] | poonj_: | what does it transmit? |
| [05:05:57] | Anduin: | poonj_: IR for controlling things like a STB: http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=24 |
| [05:06:07] | poonj_: | Anduin, okay |
| [05:06:12] | poonj_: | Anduin, I really don't know whats wrong |
| [05:06:17] | poonj_: | the kernel detects everything |
| [05:06:21] | poonj_: | but I can't get a signal |
| [05:06:23] | poonj_: | its pissing me off |
| [05:07:11] | Anduin: | poonj_: Um, if you are using lirc_i2c with that device, that is why. |
| [05:07:23] | poonj_: | I'm using the lirc_pvr150 |
| [05:09:33] | Anduin: | poonj_: And it plugs directly into the pvr150 card right? |
| [05:09:37] | poonj_: | yeah |
| [05:10:49] | poonj_: | this is what I get |
| [05:11:16] | poonj_: | http://pastebin.ca/163120 |
| [05:12:52] | Anduin: | poonj_: And you are using the config file on that page? |
| [05:13:13] | poonj_: | which page? |
| [05:13:27] | Anduin: | poonj_: The one I pasted less than a screen up |
| [05:13:30] | poonj_: | yeah |
| [05:13:49] | Anduin: | So irw just sits there? |
| [05:13:51] | poonj_: | yeah |
| [05:14:54] | poonj_: | one sec |
| [05:14:56] | poonj_: | I'll brb |
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| [05:15:26] | ShockValue: | so if i have a frontend and a backend.. and i push "channel up" on the frontend.. it relays it to the backend, which in turn relays it to the cable box? |
| [05:15:39] | Anduin: | ShockValue: Yes |
| [05:16:02] | ShockValue: | ok cool.. ive never used mythtv in a split scenerio before.. just a combo box |
| [05:17:10] | ShockValue: | i wonder if my old company has any more of these little computers... so far they seem like sweet little frontends |
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| [05:25:34] | feld: | i am having some recording issues |
| [05:25:56] | feld: | it's been ongoing for... like forever... through multiple ivtv releases, kernels, a reinstall or two over the last ~6 months |
| [05:26:05] | feld: | i |
| [05:26:13] | feld: | *ive always been too busy to look into it |
| [05:27:14] | feld: | thing is, I have a pvr250. for a while everything is fine. recordings are great. I'd say 3–5 days maybe. After that, the recordings go to hell. They get all glitchy looking. It's watchable, but quite annoying — there's no reason why the recording should be 100% perfect like it was before.... |
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| [05:27:54] | poonj: | Anduin, any ideas as to what I can try to do? |
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| [05:28:21] | feld: | BUT I just remembered that the cpu and memory in there is slightly overclocked (I think... I have to double check.) I mean barely... I think i went from a 3000+ to a 3200+; pc2700 ram to pc3200 speed i think |
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| [05:28:39] | feld: | would slight overclock like that affect the recording quality? |
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| [05:29:06] | feld: | i can't check settings / test atm because my gf is watching some recordings, but I will be shortly. |
| [05:29:08] | mortal5: | hey all, i have my ivtv card setup with the driver, it's asking me if i would like to delete my card settings, should i do it? |
| [05:29:28] | poonj: | what a POS! |
| [05:29:30] | poonj: | I got it to work |
| [05:30:19] | mortal5: | someone, anyone? I just don't want it to delete the driver and stuff after i worked so hard to set it up |
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| [05:32:50] | feld: | mortal5: uhm it's probably mythtv card settings |
| [05:33:20] | feld: | if you havent setup your card in mythtv, say yes i guess. if not, say no. if you made a big change in ivtv, you might want to re-setup the card anyway. |
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| [05:37:26] | SlicerDicer-: | how much nicer would be 480p be than svideo be for mythtv? |
| [05:38:14] | Anduin: | poonj: What was it? |
| [05:38:21] | ShockValue: | mortal5: that doesnt delete the driver, just the information you've given to mythtv-setup |
| [05:38:28] | poonj: | I powered down the computer |
| [05:38:33] | poonj: | and started it back up again |
| [05:38:52] | ShockValue: | goodness, that sounds more like windows :) |
| [05:39:00] | poonj: | lol |
| [05:39:40] | ShockValue: | anyone have a clue which driver LIRC driver i would want to use for this ? (i810E chipset) http://www.ezgo.it/IndexEngl.htm |
| [05:39:57] | ShockValue: | errr: http://www.ezgo.it/E3032SpecEngl.htm |
| [05:41:08] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: --that-one-lircdriver *grin* |
| [05:41:19] | SlicerDicer-: | actually ShockValue I wonder if that has a sound blaster ir? |
| [05:41:23] | SlicerDicer-: | or is it not? |
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| [05:41:28] | ShockValue: | <shrug> |
| [05:41:49] | SlicerDicer-: | were you wanting to use that as a backend for myth? |
| [05:41:59] | ShockValue: | frontend |
| [05:42:00] | mortal5: | thx all |
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| [05:42:03] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh ok |
| [05:42:13] | ShockValue: | "bedroom tv" :) |
| [05:42:16] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: bad idea with that if backend as minifirewire would blow chunks |
| [05:42:28] | poonj: | anyone here have a lircrc example they are willing to show? |
| [05:42:34] | SlicerDicer-: | it does not like 6 pin to 4 pin |
| [05:42:34] | ShockValue: | nah, i got a "real" box for the backend |
| [05:42:43] | SlicerDicer-: | how much do those boxes cost? |
| [05:42:43] | davezz: | Is Myth-TV working picking up dishnetwork PPV fine? |
| [05:43:02] | ShockValue: | davezz: if it's in your channel lineup, ive used it ok |
| [05:43:05] | davezz: | Do u need to have a rom102 card |
| [05:43:22] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: can you get them locally? |
| [05:43:27] | SlicerDicer-: | that would make a bad ass frontend |
| [05:43:44] | ShockValue: | i just called in, said i wanted to order the porn on channel 812, turned mythtv to channel 812.. voilla! porn |
| [05:43:50] | davezz: | ShockValue-i dont understand what u just said |
| [05:44:13] | ShockValue: | SlicerDicer-: maybe, i used to work for a company that bought a truckload of those rebranded, and then never sold any of them |
| [05:44:20] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
| [05:44:27] | SlicerDicer-: | got any idea on the $$$? |
| [05:44:55] | ShockValue: | SlicerDicer-: but that company is notorious for charging stupid prices on outdated crap and not selling any of them.. until they're totally worthless and they give them away |
| [05:45:14] | ShockValue: | im not sure they've hit the "worthless" stage in the management's mind yet |
| [05:45:33] | ShockValue: | davezz: perhaps i dont understand your question.. i dont know what a rom102 card is |
| [05:45:43] | davezz: | What Channels does Myth-TV pickup?? |
| [05:46:00] | davezz: | Are they hard to build? |
| [05:46:02] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: buddy, go back up and read my rant. tell me what u think. |
| [05:46:04] | ShockValue: | it picks up whatever channels you tell it to try to pick up. |
| [05:46:53] | simcop2387: | ShockValue: for the IRDA infrared? lirc_sir |
| [05:47:06] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: they are damn near worthless for everybody else to POOP ON!! |
| [05:47:07] | ShockValue: | simcop2387: awesome, how do you know that? |
| [05:47:14] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: unless you use myth |
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| [05:48:40] | simcop2387: | ShockValue: lots of experiance with lirc :) i've never used it before, never had an IRDA port on a desktop that would work, but i had a laptop that had an IRDA port (FIR unfortunately) that i tried to get to work, most IRDA addons that go on a serial port (i'm guessing that one does) are SIR simply because its cheaper and the serial port itself is very hard to drive at the speeds FIR needs |
| [05:49:13] | ShockValue: | gentoo user by chance? |
| [05:49:19] | davezz: | Does anyone have a MythTV that picks up DishNetwork PPV's? |
| [05:49:30] | simcop2387: | ShockValue: yea |
| [05:49:42] | ShockValue: | LIRC_DEVICES="serial" ? |
| [05:49:48] | simcop2387: | ShockValue: sir |
| [05:50:01] | ShockValue: | oh yeah, i see that now |
| [05:50:03] | ShockValue: | cool thanks |
| [05:50:17] | simcop2387: | serial is another driver altogether :) thats for homebrew built serial ones (generally, i think a few commercial ones are supported though) |
| [05:50:33] | ShockValue: | davezz: you mean without paying for them or what? |
| [05:50:47] | davezz: | <ShockValue> yes |
| [05:50:53] | simcop2387: | i plan on building a homebrew serial receiver/transmitter soon just for fun :) |
| [05:50:57] | davezz: | testing |
| [05:51:05] | ShockValue: | survey says: XXX |
| [05:51:08] | feld: | davezz: uhhh no... |
| [05:51:13] | simcop2387: | ShockValue: XXX? |
| [05:51:17] | simcop2387: | davezz: test failed |
| [05:51:21] | feld: | if you want to pirate TV you should look elsewhere. |
| [05:51:40] | ShockValue: | simcop2387: family fued? cmon man! thats a classic line. |
| [05:51:44] | simcop2387: | oh |
| [05:51:53] | feld: | davezz: it's about RECORDING tv |
| [05:51:58] | feld: | as much as you want. on a hard drive. |
| [05:52:05] | simcop2387: | ShockValue: i didn't get it :) |
| [05:52:06] | ShockValue: | in blunt terms, its a TIVO |
| [05:52:11] | feld: | and being able to keep awesome quality, and do whatever you want with it |
| [05:52:21] | simcop2387: | like burn to DVD! |
| [05:52:22] | ShockValue: | but much more cooler. |
| [05:52:26] | feld: | ShockValue: better than TIVO, in honest blunt terms |
| [05:52:29] | davezz: | ahh |
| [05:52:30] | ** simcop2387 loves making his own dvds ** | |
| [05:52:36] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: I would get one of those for 20–50$ at most lol |
| [05:52:45] | SlicerDicer-: | sounds reasonable to me given the shitbox quality haha |
| [05:52:45] | feld: | nobody can tell us what we can and cannot record |
| [05:52:51] | ShockValue: | yes, way better. . but its a good starting point for someone who doesnt get it |
| [05:52:53] | feld: | nobody can tell us we can't skip commercials davezz |
| [05:53:13] | feld: | we control it. |
| [05:53:23] | ShockValue: | we control the horizontal. we control the vertical. |
| [05:53:24] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: WE CONTROL THE HBO!! |
| [05:53:26] | ** simcop2387 plans on doing that over christmas, i'm going to use mythtv to convert all of my parents old vhs home movies to dvd/mpeg2 to keep them in a form we can store too ** | |
| [05:53:44] | ShockValue: | for christmas im getting drunk |
| [05:53:47] | simcop2387: | ShockValue: we control the picture quality! |
| [05:53:53] | feld: | and the future looks grim for other PVRs like Tivo....... |
| [05:53:54] | ** SlicerDicer- waves my magic comcastic remote control wand ** | |
| [05:54:00] | ** SlicerDicer- puts on robe and wizard hat ** | |
| [05:54:04] | simcop2387: | ha |
| [05:54:06] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: did u read my rant up about 20 mins ago? |
| [05:54:23] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [05:54:26] | davezz: | ahh.. i c now.. i thought this would descramble the dishnet pvv;s.. i seen this site here ----> http://www.mythppv.com/ |
| [05:54:31] | SlicerDicer-: | was rather mild on the feldoranto scale |
| [05:55:07] | feld: | that would be felderado, :P |
| [05:55:18] | feld: | anyway do u think that's likely to be my problem? |
| [05:55:20] | simcop2387: | davezz: that would be something else entirely |
| [05:55:30] | ShockValue: | davezz: that doesnt decode ppv.. it just adds onto mythtv the ability to get PPV listings. |
| [05:55:34] | SlicerDicer-: | dunno I read it without comprending lol |
| [05:55:43] | davezz: | oic |
| [05:55:58] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: COMPREHEND, DAMN YOU |
| [05:56:12] | ** feld puts on robe and wizard hat ** | |
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| [05:56:24] | ShockValue: | SlicerDicer-: ill let you know how my little expiriment works out with this box |
| [05:56:46] | ShockValue: | gentoo on a 1ghz machine is painfull to get installed tho :) |
| [05:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: build it on another machine |
| [05:57:02] | SlicerDicer-: | mirror it over |
| [05:57:05] | feld: | ShockValue: distcc.... install it in a chroot on another machine and tar it up........ |
| [05:57:07] | SlicerDicer-: | duh? |
| [05:57:32] | simcop2387: | feld: rant? i don't see any rant |
| [05:57:33] | ShockValue: | by the time i figured out how to do all that stuff, i'll be done installing it from scratch on the machien itself :) |
| [05:57:37] | feld: | u think i would build gentoo on my other boxes when i have a dual core opteron 270 with 4gb of ram laying around? |
| [05:57:39] | SlicerDicer-: | hahaha |
| [05:57:42] | ** ShockValue is a linux newb ** | |
| [05:57:54] | feld: | simcop2387: well it was rather a long question |
| [05:57:54] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: hell if I know |
| [05:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: I havent used the PVR in quite a while |
| [05:58:09] | SlicerDicer-: | but I had a magic kernel and ivtv combo |
| [05:58:10] | simcop2387: | feld: ah the one about the ivtv recording problems? |
| [05:58:12] | SlicerDicer-: | otherwise it was shit |
| [05:58:13] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: i hate you. you and your firewire goodness. |
| [05:58:17] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: who is your ISP btw? |
| [05:58:22] | ShockValue: | someone trade me a hd3000 for a decent nvidia card, eh? |
| [05:58:34] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: Reedsburg Utility. local utility company. |
| [05:58:51] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: I hate your local utility company |
| [05:58:52] | feld: | 10/10 fiber FTW! |
| [05:59:06] | feld: | lol why |
| [05:59:06] | simcop2387: | feld: it COULD be the overclocking, unlikely but it'd be worth trying, you could also try a real tv if you have one and see if its not actually on the cable signal itself, what kind of problems are they exactly? is it like badly encoded mpegs, or is it instead like a broken tv? |
| [05:59:12] | ShockValue: | feld, can i download all your music? =P |
| [05:59:27] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: your upload smashes |
| [05:59:43] | feld: | ShockValue: sure. just hop on over to my site at lemonparty.com |
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| [05:59:58] | simcop2387: | feld: 10k/10k fiber?!?! boy thats a stupid waste of money |
| [06:00:12] | feld: | simcop2387: it's only 50 dollars |
| [06:00:26] | feld: | and it's 10M |
| [06:00:28] | feld: | budd-y |
| [06:00:34] | simcop2387: | heh i was wondering when you'd notice that |
| [06:00:52] | simcop2387: | for 50 a month thats damn decent at the least |
| [06:00:56] | feld: | anyway simcop2387 it looks like the video encoding is whacky maybe. |
| [06:01:01] | simcop2387: | any port filtering? |
| [06:01:11] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: my download still crushes yours like a metric ton of bricks |
| [06:01:17] | ** SlicerDicer- laughs like a maniac ** | |
| [06:01:23] | feld: | it's like strange colored squares arranged in blobs and lines, simcop2387 |
| [06:01:37] | feld: | they appear randomly |
| [06:01:40] | simcop2387: | feld: sounds to me like a problem i had with my 150 once, for some reason a firmware update got sent to it badly for some reason, powering off and leaving it for about 5 minutes fixed it because it forced it to do a complete firmware update |
| [06:02:09] | feld: | but if i leave i restart it it will be fine for a few days |
| [06:02:09] | simcop2387: | well firmware upload, no update really |
| [06:02:12] | feld: | and then it will start that again |
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| [06:02:31] | simcop2387: | thats weird, almost sounds like the firmware gets mucked up, do ivtvctl -H and see if it fixes it |
| [06:02:33] | feld: | i dont really notice it until i put the machine under load sometimes, i guess. that would be when i come home and go "awww wtf" |
| [06:03:11] | simcop2387: | if ivtvctl -H fixes it then theres something strange going on, until thats figured out though a cronjob would fix it :) |
| [06:03:33] | feld: | ioctl IVTV_IOC_RELOAD_FW ok |
| [06:03:38] | feld: | coolio |
| [06:03:46] | feld: | i'll check live tv when my gf passes out |
| [06:03:52] | simcop2387: | heh k |
| [06:03:58] | feld: | and if it fixes it i'll cron it like hourly or something lol |
| [06:04:11] | feld: | will the firmware reload screw up the current recording? |
| [06:04:18] | simcop2387: | no clue, let me check |
| [06:04:22] | feld: | like blank frames or anything? |
| [06:04:25] | feld: | k |
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| [06:05:50] | simcop2387: | feld: yes it causes problems, the card will refuse to work until you do it again with no recordings going on :) hehe |
| [06:06:13] | simcop2387: | at least my 150 does :) |
| [06:06:25] | feld: | simcop2387: yeah i just learned that the hard way |
| [06:06:33] | simcop2387: | hehe you too? hehe |
| [06:06:42] | simcop2387: | hope it wasn't important :) |
| [06:07:13] | feld: | nope it is still happening |
| [06:07:22] | simcop2387: | hrm |
| [06:07:30] | simcop2387: | sure mythbackend still isn't trying? |
| [06:07:43] | feld: | no i mean i can record again |
| [06:07:48] | simcop2387: | oh! |
| [06:07:50] | feld: | but the issue is still there |
| [06:07:56] | simcop2387: | hrm thats weird, got a real tv around? |
| [06:08:12] | feld: | yeah... i can turn to this channel on the tv too |
| [06:08:37] | simcop2387: | it could be being caused by noise in the signal itself |
| [06:09:09] | simcop2387: | this is weird, the channel is messed up, the commercials are all out of sync by like 5 seconds, but the show is perfect :) |
| [06:09:12] | feld: | and it doesnt happen with the regular tv |
| [06:09:14] | feld: | it's perfectly clear |
| [06:09:22] | simcop2387: | no strange ghosting/noise? |
| [06:09:25] | feld: | nope |
| [06:09:51] | simcop2387: | well try turning off the overclocking, and see if that helps, but other than that i have no clues |
| [06:10:02] | feld: | yeah i think it is slightly overclocked |
| [06:10:12] | feld: | i'll just go reset the bios and then change what is necessary |
| [06:10:26] | feld: | my irc proxy is also running on my mythtv box, so i'll brb :) |
| [06:10:43] | simcop2387: | k |
| [06:10:53] | simcop2387: | it'll be a few days though till you know then huh |
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| [06:17:42] | ShockValue: | ok, frontend not connecting to backend database.. i pretty much gave permission to everyone on that database, but still getting "access denied" |
| [06:17:50] | ShockValue: | what am i missin here? |
| [06:17:52] | feld: | i belive the memory was upped a tad. i didnt have any cpu settings on this mobo. i changed the custom memory settings to "by SPD", so it should be at factory defaults. |
| [06:18:01] | feld: | i also see no issues after this reboot. |
| [06:18:07] | feld: | let's hope it lasts now... damnit! |
| [06:19:39] | simcop2387: | hehe |
| [06:19:58] | simcop2387: | ShockValue: no clue i always had problem with mysql's permission systems |
| [06:20:35] | ShockValue: | i ahve my "bind" |
| [06:20:38] | ShockValue: | address commented out |
| [06:20:41] | ShockValue: | in my.cnf |
| [06:20:51] | ShockValue: | which supposedly lets any IP in |
| [06:21:00] | feld: | ShockValue: no |
| [06:21:10] | feld: | it lets your computer listen on any IP address that it has |
| [06:21:11] | simcop2387: | no bind == no tcp |
| [06:21:24] | feld: | err oh that setting |
| [06:21:27] | simcop2387: | bind 0.0.0.0 is any ip |
| [06:21:35] | feld: | correct, no bind = only mysql over sockets |
| [06:22:13] | ShockValue: | so could i do 10.1.1.0 for anything 10.1.1.0–254 ? |
| [06:22:38] | simcop2387: | i think so its been a while, you might need a /8 after that, read the man page to be sure |
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| [06:23:13] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: i installed Slackware on a Pentium 75 with 4mb of ram today. w00t |
| [06:23:34] | ShockValue: | access denied for user: 'mythtv@10.1.1.7' (using password: YES) |
| [06:23:44] | ShockValue: | 10.1.1.7 is the frontend. 10.1.1.5 is the backend |
| [06:23:51] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: do you have that HDTV clip I sent you the other day? |
| [06:24:01] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: maybe, i'd have to check |
| [06:24:05] | SlicerDicer-: | please look |
| [06:24:38] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: try to send it to ShockValue please please |
| [06:24:40] | SlicerDicer-: | dcc |
| [06:24:53] | SlicerDicer-: | I want him to test a rockin kick ass hdtv on that little box |
| [06:25:16] | feld: | actually no :( |
| [06:25:23] | feld: | i was cleaning stuff up that day and it appears i dumped it |
| [06:25:30] | feld: | sorry :( |
| [06:25:31] | SlicerDicer-: | damn it |
| [06:25:34] | feld: | i have hidef porn though |
| [06:25:39] | feld: | i could send him that pirates sample |
| [06:25:40] | feld: | lol |
| [06:25:41] | SlicerDicer-: | thats not that high |
| [06:25:49] | SlicerDicer-: | that is lowdef by comparison in pixel count |
| [06:25:50] | SlicerDicer-: | heh |
| [06:25:53] | feld: | yeah yours was wicked |
| [06:26:16] | SlicerDicer-: | I figure if the hardware can handle that it can handle anything :) |
| [06:27:05] | simcop2387: | feld: ooo highdef porn? 720p? 1080i? 1080p!? |
| [06:27:44] | feld: | i dont know what it was off hand |
| [06:27:59] | simcop2387: | heh |
| [06:28:15] | ** simcop2387 waits for 2160dp! (double progressive!) ** | |
| [06:28:19] | feld: | i was busy using my off hand i mean |
| [06:28:27] | simcop2387: | lol |
| [06:28:50] | feld: | actually i dont have the whole thing downloaded, so i havent seen anything but a 15 second sample. it looks like it will be a gut buster, though. |
| [06:29:16] | SlicerDicer-: | 720p |
| [06:29:37] | SlicerDicer-: | simcop2387: my clip I sent feld was 1080p |
| [06:29:38] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: what was the file name u sent me |
| [06:29:46] | SlicerDicer-: | umm |
| [06:29:48] | SlicerDicer-: | foo.mpg? |
| [06:29:49] | feld: | i can quadruple check... eh.. but i dunno |
| [06:29:56] | feld: | oh that is what it was — i recall |
| [06:29:58] | feld: | i have no foo |
| [06:30:09] | feld: | i did ls foo |
| [06:30:13] | feld: | and it said "no foo for you!" |
| [06:30:21] | simcop2387: | ls foo* |
| [06:30:34] | feld: | yeah, typo, it was a joke ;) |
| [06:30:42] | feld: | god bless typeglobs* |
| [06:31:01] | SlicerDicer-: | dont take it all sigger |
| [06:31:03] | SlicerDicer-: | err simcop2387 |
| [06:31:09] | SlicerDicer-: | I will only send you a small amount of it |
| [06:31:11] | SlicerDicer-: | say 100mb |
| [06:31:15] | SlicerDicer-: | but check it out |
| [06:31:22] | simcop2387: | SlicerDicer-: heh i didn't really want it i just wanted to know what res |
| [06:31:32] | SlicerDicer-: | I am not going to send the entire thing hehe |
| [06:31:41] | simcop2387: | and damn 5gb! |
| [06:31:45] | SlicerDicer-: | but I got to make sure you got enough to view the actual hdtv |
| [06:31:46] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [06:32:06] | SlicerDicer-: | simcop2387: its not that long either |
| [06:32:07] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [06:32:10] | SlicerDicer-: | that is 30mins |
| [06:32:23] | feld: | yeah so like 80mb will get you like 14 seconds |
| [06:32:25] | feld: | it's crazy |
| [06:32:27] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [06:32:29] | feld: | but so purrdy |
| [06:32:41] | simcop2387: | SlicerDicer-: that pegs my cpu at 50% to play it back without xvmc |
| [06:32:46] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [06:32:57] | SlicerDicer-: | simcop2387: well its nowhere near playing full HD yet is it? |
| [06:33:02] | SlicerDicer-: | I mean the screen is not filled with image |
| [06:33:07] | SlicerDicer-: | the first few mins of it is like SDTV |
| [06:33:24] | feld: | simcop2387: then it makes your cpu core cry |
| [06:33:29] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [06:33:32] | simcop2387: | SlicerDicer-: its at 1080p res, but its not full quality |
| [06:33:46] | feld: | mine did. the other one patted it on the back and said "it's ok charlie, it will be over shortly" |
| [06:34:12] | simcop2387: | ok now what mplayer mpeg decoder supports xvmc |
| [06:34:14] | SlicerDicer-: | simcop2387: give it time mate give it time |
| [06:34:24] | SlicerDicer-: | you need to download alot more before you see full quality |
| [06:34:31] | feld: | bedtime guys |
| [06:34:36] | feld: | so i'll check ya later. |
| [06:34:36] | SlicerDicer-: | like I said the first few mins are not full quality then it opens up to full quality |
| [06:34:39] | SlicerDicer-: | its kinda weird |
| [06:37:10] | simcop2387: | ah ffmpeg12mc |
| [06:38:52] | SlicerDicer-: | simcop2387: you might be able to see the full HD now I am not sure |
| [06:45:24] | SlicerDicer-: | simcop2387: I will just send you the video with the audio off |
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| [06:45:28] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: how'd you manage to send him 40gb so fast? |
| [06:45:30] | feld: | :P |
| [06:45:38] | SlicerDicer-: | feld: its not |
| [06:45:48] | SlicerDicer-: | I am going to cut it |
| [06:45:58] | SlicerDicer-: | the audio is not sync'ed but ohh well |
| [06:46:10] | SlicerDicer-: | I cant get it to sync |
| [06:46:18] | feld: | seriously my bedtime though. nite ! |
| [06:46:23] | SlicerDicer-: | cya feld |
| [06:47:50] | simcop2387: | SlicerDicer-: no clue i've been playing with getting mplayer to work properly with xvmc, apparantly it wasn't setup properly before :) |
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| [06:48:35] | SlicerDicer-: | there ya go |
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| [06:48:40] | SlicerDicer-: | that will be more reasonable in size |
| [06:49:37] | SlicerDicer-: | simcop2387: I have a really hard time chopping HD files |
| [06:49:43] | SlicerDicer-: | that has no audio that I am sending you |
| [06:49:43] | simcop2387: | i've got plenty of space, and currently my irc client auto accepts files over dcc... |
| [06:49:45] | SlicerDicer-: | :/ |
| [06:49:46] | simcop2387: | k |
| [06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but its much smaller and shows the full quality of HD sort of |
| [06:50:07] | simcop2387: | i only have it do that when i'm waiting on stuff in manga/anime channels :) |
| [06:50:11] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [06:50:50] | simcop2387: | well lets update the nvidia-drivers and get the thing built and working, then once thats going i'll start the update to the modular xorg 7 server |
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| [06:54:24] | simcop2387: | SlicerDicer-: looks great |
| [06:54:34] | SlicerDicer-: | indeed eh? |
| [06:54:49] | simcop2387: | makes me wish my parents mythbox had component out (need to buy a vga|dvi converter) |
| [06:55:04] | simcop2387: | i'm gonna end the transfer need to restart X |
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| [06:56:21] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
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| [07:00:42] | simcop2387: | ok that was a neat segfault of X heh |
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| [07:03:41] | SlicerDicer-: | I am off to sleep |
| [07:03:42] | SlicerDicer-: | gnite |
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| [07:06:51] | simcop2387: | SlicerDicer-: where did you get that feed? off a hd3000 or something? |
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| [07:10:38] | ShockValue: | goddamn this mysql stuff is pissing me off |
| [07:10:44] | ShockValue: | i cant get my frontend to talk to the backend database |
| [07:11:13] | ShockValue: | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@10.1.1.7' (Using password: YES) |
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| [07:21:44] | simcop2387: | SlicerDicer-: w00t working xvmc uses only like 20% of my cpu, (reading and copying the data to ram heh) and playback much better |
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| [07:21:47] | Anduin: | ShockValue: the default mc.sql only lets localhost, did you adjust it? |
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| [07:44:53] | Dibblah: | Anyone having issues with tv_grab_uk_rt? |
| [07:45:08] | Dibblah: | (No channels showing on-site) |
| [07:48:24] | Dibblah: | channels.dat is 0 bytes... |
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| [07:51:09] | evilDagmar is now known as Dagmar | |
| [07:51:35] | Dagmar: | Perhaps get the SVN/CVS version of xmltv |
| [07:52:15] | Dibblah: | No recent commits. |
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| [07:53:29] | Dibblah: | Busted... http://www2.holmlund.se/xmltv-nightly/test_gr . . . v_grab_uk_rt |
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| [08:01:46] | poonj: | hey guys |
| [08:01:50] | poonj: | I'm not sure what the problem I'm having is.. |
| [08:01:58] | poonj: | but when I try watch TV, the screen blinks |
| [08:02:06] | poonj: | and then goes back to the mythtv menu |
| [08:02:09] | poonj: | it doesn't even tune to the tv tuner... |
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| [08:04:37] | poonj: | hey guys |
| [08:04:47] | poonj: | also, for IVTV, am I supposed to use /dev/video32? |
| [08:04:51] | poonj: | or /dev/video0? |
| [08:06:48] | Anduin: | poonj: video0, and check the backend logs |
| [08:07:13] | Speedy2: | poonj: Any luck with lirc? |
| [08:07:29] | poonj: | Speedy2, it worked |
| [08:07:38] | poonj: | Speedy2, for some reason, I had to turn off the computer |
| [08:07:40] | poonj: | then turn it back on |
| [08:09:17] | Dagmar: | Well, ideally /dev/video will be a symlink pointing to /dev/video0 and you'll use that |
| [08:16:28] | poonj: | ummm |
| [08:16:34] | poonj: | Anduin, okay, I changed the video device |
| [08:16:38] | poonj: | but stillgetting the same problem |
| [08:17:27] | poonj: | okay |
| [08:17:30] | poonj: | now I see the log |
| [08:19:22] | poonj: | TVRec(1) Error: Channel: '' was not found in the database. |
| [08:19:30] | poonj: | Most likely, your DefaultTVChannel setting is wrong. |
| [08:19:36] | poonj: | I did set the channel.. |
| [08:19:41] | poonj: | for some reason...its not saved.. |
| [08:32:57] | poonj: | Anduin, you there? |
| [08:34:28] | Anduin: | poonj: Yes |
| [08:34:39] | poonj: | I don't know where to go with that error.. |
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| [08:35:37] | poonj: | http://pastebin.ca/163191 |
| [08:36:18] | poonj: | for some reason |
| [08:36:28] | poonj: | its not able to get the channel number from the database |
| [08:37:29] | Anduin: | poonj: And you have startchan set for that card/input? |
| [08:37:42] | poonj: | I have the defaultchan |
| [08:37:49] | poonj: | or TuneChan I mean |
| [08:38:03] | poonj: | actually, I'm sorry |
| [08:38:06] | poonj: | I have the StartChan setup |
| [08:38:07] | poonj: | yeah |
| [08:40:10] | Anduin: | poonj: For the default input as well? |
| [08:42:36] | poonj: | yeah |
| [08:42:41] | poonj: | what do you mean by default input? |
| [08:45:02] | Anduin: | poonj: throw your cardinput table on a paste site |
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| [08:46:03] | poonj: | http://pastebin.ca/163201 |
| [08:47:32] | Anduin: | poonj: capturecard table |
| [08:48:19] | poonj: | http://pastebin.ca/163206 |
| [08:48:58] | Anduin: | poonj: Well that looks ok |
| [08:49:36] | poonj: | what do you think could cause the error? |
| [08:49:55] | poonj: | where the query to select the initial channel comes up empty |
| [08:50:01] | Anduin: | poonj: you channel table populated? |
| [08:50:11] | poonj: | I ran mythfilldatabase |
| [08:50:17] | Juski: | not the same thing |
| [08:50:36] | Juski: | not necessarily the same thing I mean |
| [08:50:53] | poonj: | http://pastebin.ca/163207 |
| [08:50:56] | poonj: | looks like it is |
| [08:51:17] | Juski: | yeh but does the starting channel actually exist? |
| [08:51:25] | poonj: | yes |
| [08:51:30] | poonj: | I am watching it on my TV now.. |
| [08:52:28] | Juski: | lol no does the channel number mythtv is set to start on exist in the channel table |
| [08:52:50] | poonj: | yes |
| [08:53:02] | poonj: | 32768 | Default | 0 | 1 | | 0 | NULL | NULL | NULL | |
| [08:53:02] | poonj: | | 1002 | 3 | 61250 | 1 | Channel 3 | Channel 3 | none | NULL | | | 0 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768 | |
| [08:53:08] | poonj: | thats what I have it set to |
| [08:53:32] | Anduin: | poonj: And you don't have the "lock to this channel" option set? |
| [08:53:41] | poonj: | where is that located at? |
| [08:54:10] | Anduin: | poonj: It is in mythtv-setup, close to where you set the startchan |
| [08:54:15] | poonj: | let me see |
| [08:54:23] | poonj: | so I want that checked? |
| [08:56:07] | Anduin: | No |
| [08:56:32] | poonj: | I don't see anything to that effec |
| [08:56:36] | poonj: | in mythtv-setup |
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| [09:01:04] | rambo3: | any chess game for mythtv |
| [09:03:02] | Anduin: | poonj: The preset tuner to channel option |
| [09:03:54] | poonj: | I set that as blank.. |
| [09:04:01] | poonj: | what should that be? |
| [09:05:35] | Anduin: | poonj: blank is good |
| [09:05:51] | poonj: | mythfilldatabase ran, but did not insert any new data into the Guide. This can indicate a potential grabber failure. |
| [09:05:54] | poonj: | could that be a problem? |
| [09:06:22] | Anduin: | poonj: If you just ran it, no. You see stuff in the program guide? |
| [09:06:35] | Anduin: | poonj: Do recordings work and just not live tv? |
| [09:06:45] | poonj: | recordings don't seem to work either |
| [09:07:16] | Anduin: | poonj: And there is only one DB we are dealing with here right? |
| [09:07:32] | poonj: | yeah |
| [09:07:51] | poonj: | when I do a cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg |
| [09:07:55] | poonj: | I get an output |
| [09:08:00] | poonj: | so I know the card is working.. |
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| [09:10:50] | Anduin: | poonj: Show the log for a failed scheduled recording. |
| [09:13:10] | poonj: | http://pastebin.ca/163217 |
| [09:13:37] | poonj: | Channel(/dev/video0)::Open(): Can't open video device, error "Permission denied" |
| [09:15:07] | Anduin: | poonj: Much easier to fix that |
| [09:15:19] | poonj: | I just added mythtv to the video group |
| [09:15:23] | poonj: | let me ask you this.. |
| [09:15:33] | poonj: | I'm logged in as the user poonj |
| [09:15:44] | poonj: | but mythbackend is run under mythtv |
| [09:15:56] | poonj: | so its technically mythtv that is access /dev/video0 right? |
| [09:16:24] | Anduin: | poonj: correct |
| [09:16:38] | poonj: | okay, lets see if that helps |
| [09:16:45] | poonj: | do you think that could have been the problem with livetv? |
| [09:16:51] | poonj: | it probably is.. |
| [09:16:54] | poonj: | lets see |
| [09:16:57] | Anduin: | poonj: Yes |
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| [09:20:18] | poonj: | okay |
| [09:20:20] | poonj: | recording works now |
| [09:20:36] | poonj: | thanks Anduin |
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| [09:24:17] | poonj: | manh |
| [09:24:21] | poonj: | 0.19 is much better than 0.18 |
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| [09:29:00] | Anduin: | poonj: You upgraded just in time to upgrade to 0.20 in a few weeks |
| [09:31:19] | Juski: | rambo3: no there is STILL no chess game for mythtv. there wasn't 3 months ago and there still isn't. Nor is there ever likely to be |
| [09:32:03] | Dagmar: | Juski: Remember me looking around for a cheap color-changing LED circuit? I found one. :) |
| [09:32:16] | Dagmar: | "Glade Lightshow", retailing for about $12USD |
| [09:32:55] | Dagmar: | Rip the stink-heater element out of it, and it leaves ya with three color LEDs and a reasonable control interface. :) |
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| [09:36:30] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Juski: too bad really..it's one of the few games that you could actually play well with a remote :P |
| [09:37:08] | poonj: | Anduin, its coming out in 2 weeks? |
| [09:40:11] | Anduin: | poonj: or less |
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| [09:46:03] | aramdune: | Hello, I live in Romania and installed xmltv with ro support. Now how do I enable it in Mythtv? in that list in mythtv-setup I don't see Romania. What to do? Thanks. |
| [09:48:52] | rambo3: | do you use your donkey as reciver |
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| [09:51:52] | Anduin: | aramdune: Is there a Romanian xmltv grabber? |
| [10:01:01] | poonj: | Anduin, what kind of new features will there be? |
| [10:02:17] | poonj: | nice.. |
| [10:03:21] | Dagmar: | I thought they just put a candle behind a box with some gauze in front of it there. |
| [10:03:22] | Dagmar: | ;) |
| [10:09:35] | aramdune: | Anduin, yes |
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| [10:11:52] | CBMz: | Hi |
| [10:12:53] | CBMz: | my remote won't work in lirc, (though it's supported, and i used the config file came with lirc (the one matches my tv card)), so i used mode2, and i got a different output from the config, how do i use it in the config? |
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| [10:13:15] | CBMz: | mode2: code: 0xc03fc23d, lirc config: 0x000000000000C23D |
| [10:13:41] | Dagmar: | CBMz: Do you get sensible output when you run `irw -c /path/to/config/file mythtv`? |
| [10:14:03] | Dagmar: | You really *don't* want to write a new config file from scratch if you can help it, and how to do that is definitely documented |
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| [10:14:25] | aramdune: | hey, how do I configure xmltv for mythtv using romanian suport? How do I integrate xmltv in mythtv? |
| [10:15:18] | Dagmar: | aramdune: Have you yet attempted to build xmltv? |
| [10:15:23] | aramdune: | I have |
| [10:15:34] | Dagmar: | So was there a Romanian grabber in the list? |
| [10:15:34] | aramdune: | it builded succesfully |
| [10:15:36] | CBMz: | Dagmar: my first goal is to configure XMMS with it, and only THEN i'll go for mythtv. |
| [10:15:50] | aramdune: | Dagmar, I configuredf it with romnanian suppoort, yes |
| [10:15:57] | Dagmar: | CBMz: So, just like last night, this isn't #xmms and what you want to know is _already documented_ |
| [10:16:09] | CBMz: | Dagmar: seriously? how come i didn't find it |
| [10:16:15] | aramdune: | but in mythtv-setup list, I cannot fing romania |
| [10:16:23] | Dagmar: | aramdune: Then as far as I know the rest of what you have to do is in mythtv-setup, where you just tell it to use xmltv instead of DataDirect/Zap2it |
| [10:16:33] | Dagmar: | Hrmm... |
| [10:16:57] | Dagmar: | aramdune: That may require a patch unless xmltv needed some dependency for the ro grabber that you skipped |
| [10:17:18] | Dagmar: | I had to use CPAN to install a TON of things the last time I decided to install all the grabbers to see what state they were in |
| [10:17:23] | CBMz: | Dagmar, well, if i'll find an easy way to find channels, i'll install mythtv now. |
| [10:18:30] | Dagmar: | CBMz: Have fun http://www.lirc.org/html/index.html |
| [10:18:37] | Dagmar: | I'm telling you, dude, it's NOT that hard. |
| [10:18:38] | aramdune: | maybe I should rebuild mythtv? |
| [10:19:02] | Dagmar: | aramdune: I don't think it locks in the xmltv stuff at compile time, so that would probably not be useful |
| [10:19:09] | poonj: | hey guys... |
| [10:19:19] | poonj: | what is a good bitrate to use for livetv recording? |
| [10:19:24] | poonj: | for 480x480? |
| [10:19:31] | poonj: | default, its set to about 4500 |
| [10:19:38] | poonj: | would 3000 be sufficient? |
| [10:19:58] | Dagmar: | poonj: Well, you actually probably don't want to mess with that. Remember, that's the stream that's going to go on your screen. |
| [10:20:14] | Anduin: | aramdune: Yeah, doesn't look like tv_grab_ro is there, you can do it manually though |
| [10:20:25] | poonj: | Dagmar, what about recording.. |
| [10:20:30] | poonj: | the recording profiles I mean |
| [10:20:33] | Dagmar: | Personally, I set it to 640x480 (because that's the video res I'm using) and leave the bitrate alone so that when I'm watching TV I get a nice, high quality picture |
| [10:20:49] | aramdune: | Anduin, really? what file do I have to edit? |
| [10:20:53] | Anduin: | poonj: Yes, I use 1000–1200 for news shows |
| [10:20:53] | poonj: | Dagmar, okay |
| [10:21:14] | poonj: | Anduin, what about high quality |
| [10:21:19] | poonj: | what do you have it set at? |
| [10:21:24] | Dagmar: | poonj: If you want to drop the bitrate on the other recording profiles, go ahead. I just wouldn't lower the one for LiveTV because it will affect the image quality on live-broadcasts |
| [10:21:35] | poonj: | Dagmar, okay |
| [10:21:37] | Anduin: | aramdune: mythfilldatabase can take raw XMLTV files, it has been a very long time since I've used it though. |
| [10:21:42] | poonj: | Dagmar, but I'm wondering about the Low Quality |
| [10:21:46] | poonj: | and High Quality setting |
| [10:21:59] | Dagmar: | poonj: Actually I dropped that one to 480x480 and 3000–4000 on mine |
| [10:22:04] | aramdune: | Anduin, I see, i'll serach for how to do it, thanks :) |
| [10:22:09] | poonj: | oka |
| [10:22:12] | poonj: | what about High Quality? |
| [10:22:12] | Anduin: | poonj: defaults, not too high, it is TV |
| [10:22:32] | Dagmar: | poonj: You'll know pretty quickly if you set a profile with too low a bitrate. The picture will start to look bad |
| [10:22:40] | poonj: | Dagmar, okay |
| [10:23:00] | poonj: | I'm just trying to maximize my drive space |
| [10:23:15] | Dagmar: | On high quality I left the bitrate at the default and kicked the horizontal up to 720, since those I'm going to transcode to something else eventually and I want as much detail as possible |
| [10:23:55] | Dagmar: | Don't even bother messing with the audio bitrate, mind you |
| [10:24:10] | Dagmar: | Audio is only a *very* small part of the recorded streaem |
| [10:24:22] | Dagmar: | You might reduce filesizes by all of 8% if you told it not to record audio ata ll |
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| [10:24:42] | Dagmar: | Actually, probably more like 4% |
| [10:25:23] | Dagmar: | From what I've been able to gather by pestering people who do broadcast stuff, 224kbps is about what most TV stations use when they're doing digital work |
| [10:25:39] | Dagmar: | ...for audio, mind you |
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| [10:38:33] | CBMz: | Dagmar, should i use the suse packages for mythtv? or make my own rpm using own compiled sourcecode? |
| [10:39:32] | Dagmar: | If you know how to make an rpm spec file, I'd go that route |
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| [10:39:49] | Dagmar: | I've been seeing some complaints about weirdness with the way the SuSe package is assembled |
| [10:41:54] | CBMz: | Dagmar, i can just compile it normally and use checkinstall to make the rpm. |
| [10:42:16] | CBMz: | right? |
| [10:42:25] | Dagmar: | I want nothing to do with checkinstall |
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| [10:43:13] | Dagmar: | I don't see any point in attempting to do something as particular and careful as constructing a package, and involving a tool that's mostly luck and half-assed intentions to do it |
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| [10:43:44] | aramdune: | I've succeded partially. I completed the xml for romania succesfully but mythfilldatabase fails weirdly... It can't connect to database or smth, here is the log, please help, thanks: http://pastebin.ca/163254 |
| [10:44:08] | Dagmar: | Just snatch SuSe's spec file and modify it to suit you if you're going to make an RPM |
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| [10:44:53] | aramdune: | what's with that unexpected and of file? |
| [10:44:59] | Dagmar: | araamdune: Umm... did you start mythbackend before you ran that?> |
| [10:45:05] | aramdune: | yes |
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| [10:45:34] | Dagmar: | I've no idea what's going on in line 66 there |
| [10:45:41] | Dagmar: | Anduin might know |
| [10:46:55] | Anduin: | aramdune: Have you tried without using -? |
| [10:47:08] | aramdune: | no, let me try |
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| [10:49:57] | aramdune: | I get "missing or invalid parameters for --file option" but otherwise completed succesfully. Romania it doesn't appear in mythtv-setup though... |
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| [10:51:42] | Anduin: | aramdune: I'd configure a dummy grabber in setup, edit the DB, I just ignore the non-DD part of mythfilldatabase now but I think that will work. The ones in mythtv-setup are currently predefined I believe. |
| [10:52:44] | aramdune: | How do I configure a dummy grabber in setup? Actually I don't need any gabber — I just want to watch tv. |
| [10:54:55] | Anduin: | aramdune: Just pick some xmltv grabber, this way you'll get a source id and you can associate it with the card/input. Then mythfilldatabase manually with that source id (you may be able to just change the DB and it will work automatically, not sure though) |
| [10:57:24] | aramdune: | That's what I did in the first place and it didn't work. Let me pastebin the log... |
| [10:59:06] | aramdune: | http://pastebin.ca/163265 |
| [11:01:55] | Anduin: | aramdune: tv_grab_no? |
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| [11:07:58] | rambo3: | run me with --configure |
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| [11:16:25] | DGnome: | heyho, I'm looking for a standalone frontend howto, can someone point me to one or tell me how to? :) |
| [11:16:40] | Juski: | standalone frontend? |
| [11:17:05] | Juski: | frontends need backends so by definition cannot be standalone |
| [11:17:53] | DGnome: | ah |
| [11:17:55] | DGnome: | okay |
| [11:18:34] | DGnome: | soo, how do i make the backend talk with another backend? :) |
| [11:19:08] | Kelerion: | thats called a slave backend |
| [11:19:13] | Juski: | btw I didn't mean that you need to run the backend daemon on a remote frontend |
| [11:19:47] | DGnome: | I'm building a remote frontend yes.. want it to be as simple as possible |
| [11:20:09] | Juski: | so just run the frontend on that machine |
| [11:20:23] | DGnome: | soo one mythbackend can serve many frontends |
| [11:20:29] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [11:20:33] | Kelerion: | morning all :) |
| [11:20:36] | DGnome: | the frontends need to talk with mysql and backend |
| [11:20:44] | Juski: | reconfigure the master backend so that the IPaddresses in mythtv-setup match the machine's _real_ ip address |
| [11:20:51] | DGnome: | mmh |
| [11:21:04] | GreyFoxx: | DGnome: Yes,one bacckend can serve many frontends |
| [11:21:06] | Juski: | or I could just yell RTFM cos it's mentioned in there |
| [11:21:27] | DGnome: | i did RTFM but did'nt get any smarter :) |
| [11:21:34] | Kelerion: | DGnome, http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php |
| [11:21:46] | Kelerion: | scroll down to remote frontends |
| [11:22:00] | Juski: | there's a section in the official docs |
| [11:22:07] | Kelerion: | yup.. there too |
| [11:22:16] | DGnome: | Kelerion: thanks! |
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| [11:22:49] | Juski: | though the official docs don't tell you of the need to bind mysql to the machine's real ip address IIRC |
| [11:23:28] | aramdune: | Anduin, yes, tv-grab-no, I just have chosen something to work |
| [11:23:37] | Kelerion: | not just jarod's does either... been a while since I read that one |
| [11:23:38] | aramdune: | as I said, I don't need a grabber, i just want to watch tv |
| [11:23:47] | aramdune: | run what with --configure? |
| [11:24:20] | Anduin: | aramdune: If you are going to use a dummy one then don't --manual, keep passing a file. If you just want to watch TV, myth is overkill. |
| [11:25:01] | Juski: | btw morning Kelerion :) |
| [11:25:07] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [11:25:12] | Kelerion: | gonna get me a coffee.. brb :) |
| [11:25:12] | aramdune: | watch tv /with/ remote controller + recording |
| [11:25:33] | Juski: | try freevo then |
| [11:25:42] | aramdune: | it has the same output without --manual |
| [11:25:54] | Juski: | mythtv is pretty much impotent without a tv guide |
| [11:26:12] | Anduin: | aramdune: ignore --manual, stick with --file |
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| [11:26:52] | Anduin: | aramdune: or edit the DB and try inserting your real grabber |
| [11:27:02] | aramdune: | and what file should I pass? huro_rt.xmlt doesn't work |
| [11:27:20] | Immolo: | heya, does anyone know the default port mythtv uses for sending data to a frontend? |
| [11:27:29] | GreyFoxx: | tomimo_: 6543 |
| [11:27:34] | Immolo: | thanks |
| [11:28:23] | Anduin: | aramdune: doesn't work how? |
| [11:28:48] | aramdune: | it's that unexpected end of file error I pasted before |
| [11:29:08] | aramdune: | Error in 1:1: unexpected end of file |
| [11:30:59] | Anduin: | aramdune: That should have been – related, one of your pasts looked very close |
| [11:32:21] | aramdune: | well that '-' at the end was for pipe redirection I think. I tried without it and it complained about missing file parameter |
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| [11:33:32] | aramdune: | I can't understand, if tv_grab_ro works, why can't I use it in mythtv? I mean the file generated is ok, why mythfillatabase complains abou it? |
| [11:35:31] | Anduin: | aramdune: Myth just doesn't know about it, with a DB change it may work, or manually. Did you look at the xml file you were passing in? |
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| [11:36:00] | aramdune: | huro_rt.xmlt? yes — I guess it's ok, but how can I be sure? |
| [11:36:31] | Anduin: | aramdune: put the first few lines on the pastebin |
| [11:37:19] | aramdune: | http://pastebin.ca/163286 |
| [11:38:33] | Anduin: | aramdune: Yeah, that is the config output (channel info) not the actual listing data |
| [11:39:18] | aramdune: | hmm... I see |
| [11:40:28] | Kelerion: | just out of curiousity.. why's it called .xmlt? and not .xmltv? |
| [11:40:41] | aramdune: | I guess typo |
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| [11:40:57] | aramdune: | I'm running: |
| [11:40:57] | aramdune: | /usr/bin/tv_grab_huro --config-file /root/.mythtv/huro_rt.xmltv | /usr/bin/mythfilldatabase --update --file 1 -1 - |
| [11:40:58] | Anduin: | Kelerion: It is XMLTV |
| [11:41:00] | aramdune: | and it seems to work |
| [11:41:28] | Kelerion: | kk |
| [11:42:23] | Kelerion: | I just came in on this and thought myth might have been looking for a .xmltv extension :) never mind me :) |
| [11:42:36] | Juski: | Kelerion: I'm sending a big fat 'yes' email out today. I can't wait for Coume to get back to me if we're to meet the deadline of tomorrow |
| [11:43:09] | Kelerion: | kk :) am sure he'd be up for it anyways |
| [11:44:20] | Juski: | the devil is in the details of it |
| [11:44:32] | Kelerion: | always is on something that big |
| [11:44:39] | Juski: | which I'm just thrashing out now |
| [11:44:58] | Juski: | can't think of any show stoppers other than daft restrictions on parking at the venue |
| [11:46:00] | Kelerion: | I'll be getting dropped off with all the kit.. so no parking problems for me :) |
| [11:47:26] | Juski: | how much does a 42" plasma weigh anyhow? |
| [11:47:52] | Kelerion: | well.. I can lift it by myself.. but it's awkward |
| [11:49:15] | Juski: | I better ask the guy if there's gonna be enough space for it anyway ;-) |
| [11:49:24] | Juski: | or _that_ is gonna end in tears |
| [11:49:34] | Kelerion: | yeah... might be an important thing to know.. lol |
| [11:50:10] | Kelerion: | about 33kg apparently |
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| [11:52:45] | Juski: | lighter than my hernia-inducing 32" CRT then |
| [11:52:58] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [11:54:36] | aramdune: | yeah... after finishing I get over 5000 lines of errors |
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| [11:58:16] | hkBst: | I've been searching for a roundup of pvr cards. I've found some stuff in tom's denguru, but it mentions that "Europeans are lucky to be able to buy and use so called hybrid cards that can handle both analog and digital satellite broadcasts in a single device." |
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| [12:00:33] | DGnome: | Kelerion: 2006-09–07 14:57:49.178 RingBuffer::RingBuffer(): Failed to open remote file (myth://127.0.0.1:6543/1049_20060905155851.mpg) <-- frontend tries to play recordings from wrong ip.. black screen flashes when choosing to watch recording, thumbnail-preview video shows though.. any ideas? |
| [12:01:30] | Kelerion: | not really.. have just woken up and my brain ain't working yet... still on my first coffee! |
| [12:02:23] | Anduin: | DGnome: check the host name in the recorded record |
| [12:02:55] | Anduin: | aramdune: would need more info to even begin to help |
| [12:03:46] | DGnome: | Anduin: recorded record? |
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| [12:04:42] | Anduin: | DGnome: DB table that tells frontend where a recording is |
| [12:05:00] | DGnome: | mkay |
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| [12:08:49] | DGnome: | Anduin: ah, there's the problem then, a new recording worked fine.. now then to change values in db |
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| [12:24:49] | Krazylegz: | Do I want to use OpenGL with my Pundit-R's ATI tv-out? |
| [12:24:58] | Krazylegz: | Not sure if the tv-out even supports OpenGL. |
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| [12:32:01] | Ruleke: | gday all |
| [12:42:39] | Juski: | hey Ruleke |
| [12:45:09] | Ruleke: | sup jusker |
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| [12:45:16] | elfranger: | hello |
| [12:45:28] | elfranger: | quick question... what does sit0 resemble? |
| [12:45:30] | Ruleke: | greetings and salutations |
| [12:45:42] | elfranger: | Hey, you remembered my "callsign" |
| [12:45:42] | elfranger: | hehe |
| [12:45:44] | Ruleke: | a firewire network interface ? |
| [12:45:49] | elfranger: | ok |
| [12:46:02] | Ruleke: | I have a damn photographic memory |
| [12:46:12] | Ruleke: | click |
| [12:46:58] | elfranger: | installing on a new laptop, and I am unsure to if it has a wlan card or not |
| [12:47:05] | Ruleke: | I was joking anyway, I think sit0 is some tunnel device |
| [12:47:10] | elfranger: | oh... |
| [12:47:11] | elfranger: | hm |
| [12:47:34] | Ruleke: | probably need it if you're doing ipv6 |
| [12:47:50] | elfranger: | On the mythtv config it says Please select network device eth0 LAN and sit0 LAN |
| [12:48:12] | Ruleke: | never seen that :P |
| [12:48:27] | qu0zl: | sit0 is for ipv6 to 4 tunneling |
| [12:48:43] | Ruleke: | well there you go |
| [12:48:53] | elfranger: | cool |
| [12:49:06] | elfranger: | don't think I will need it |
| [12:49:31] | ** Ruleke sets up dhcp and tftp ** | |
| [12:49:32] | Ruleke: | woot |
| [12:49:38] | elfranger: | just trying on a laptop with a radeon mobility adapter to see if I get a better result than on the laptop with nvidia |
| [12:50:36] | Ruleke: | hmm |
| [12:50:45] | elfranger: | Wow, a lot of improvements from R5C7 to R5D1 I see.. Somehow I managed to install with R5C7 last time... |
| [12:50:54] | Ruleke: | I couldn't get tv-out to work on recent ATI adapters |
| [12:51:18] | Ruleke: | knoppmyth does have some scripts to do binary nvidia/ati stuff I think..; |
| [12:51:29] | Ruleke: | don't liek to use it myself |
| [12:51:48] | elfranger: | I worked a bit to get tv.out on my nvidia laptop, but I had to force it to tv-out |
| [12:52:39] | Ruleke: | in the X config or... |
| [12:53:00] | elfranger: | yes |
| [12:53:23] | Ruleke: | I didn't realise tv-out was not easily selectable without binary stuff... been using openchrome for a while now |
| [12:53:30] | elfranger: | Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV" |
| [12:53:34] | Ruleke: | yeah |
| [12:53:43] | Ruleke: | with the binary driver ? |
| [12:53:52] | elfranger: | not sure what you mean by the binary driver... |
| [12:54:09] | Juski: | you'd be amazed how little is supported in the FOSS nvidia driver |
| [12:54:34] | Juski: | but the official (and closed) drivers are the best despite being closed source |
| [12:54:45] | Dagmar: | Yep |
| [12:54:56] | Ruleke: | hmm does conflict resolution take manual actions taken on conflicts into accoutn for scoring ? |
| [12:55:00] | Ruleke: | that would be nice |
| [12:55:10] | Dagmar: | People have complained about "what if we need to fix them?" repeatedly, but it winds up being academic |
| [12:55:16] | Dagmar: | I've not seen nVidia take longer than a month to fix anything |
| [12:55:24] | Juski: | people complain whatever |
| [12:55:30] | Dagmar: | Tell me about it |
| [12:55:32] | Ruleke: | except for 64bit or ppc or ... |
| [12:55:33] | Juski: | linux users or not |
| [12:56:05] | Dagmar: | I could see the point of complaining about closed source, IF nVidia weren't clearly extremely on the ball about making things happen |
| [12:56:22] | elfranger: | Is video output more controllable on R5D1 than on R5C7? |
| [12:56:27] | Ruleke: | I'm not gonna say anything... |
| [12:56:31] | Dagmar: | I fully expect they'll get that 9xxx series driver with the last bit Metacity needs to use the GL fanciness out the door right when they said they would, too |
| [12:57:04] | Dagmar: | Ruleke: Their 64bit drivers have been working fine for awhile now |
| [12:57:44] | Juski: | elfranger: nvidia-settings is about all you need |
| [12:58:32] | Ruleke: | Dagmar: but was hardly "on the ball" |
| [12:58:51] | Dagmar: | elfranger: It's important to recognize which parts are doing what. Knoppix itself doesn't have much to do with the driver output. The nVidia binary driver does all that stuff |
| [12:59:08] | Dagmar: | Ruleke: I'm sorry, was someone shipping a working 64bit Linux distro? |
| [12:59:24] | Ruleke: | yes I think so |
| [13:00:07] | Dagmar: | Just maintaining 32bit compatibility has been slowing that whole field down |
| [13:00:29] | Dagmar: | I ain't really looking forward to what I've set myself up for doing with it later this month either |
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| [13:23:53] | elfranger: | Hehe, root has gone 49710 days without being checked |
| [13:31:40] | Ruleke: | finally adjusted the clock ? :) |
| [13:43:41] | elfranger: | hehe |
| [13:44:00] | elfranger: | not sure why it said that... the year WAS correct... |
| [13:44:14] | elfranger: | just thought it was funny to see that on a fresh install |
| [13:47:09] | Juski: | oh noes! time to dig the IDE analyser out to findout why this new DVDRW drive doesn't work |
| [13:47:29] | Juski: | bloody evil drive manufacturers & their nonstandard shite |
| [13:48:30] | Ruleke: | seen some of that on lkml |
| [13:48:34] | Ruleke: | there is a patch |
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| [13:52:00] | Juski: | yeh but we have to patch our own propriatary software |
| [13:52:23] | Ruleke: | oh |
| [13:53:03] | Juski: | every time I get a new DVD drive to test there turns out to be a change in the command set |
| [13:53:04] | elfranger: | would a readon card show image on both lcd and tv? |
| [13:53:15] | Juski: | readon? |
| [13:53:16] | elfranger: | radeon... |
| [13:53:21] | elfranger: | read on |
| [13:56:30] | Juski: | depends what you mean.. showing the same thing (probably) or like a dual-display thing (YMMV) |
| [13:57:46] | Ruleke: | I think he's asking if the tv-out will duplicate the CRT/DVI output no matter what |
| [13:58:08] | Ruleke: | while most of the time, the registers set by the driver will disable the tv-out |
| [13:58:32] | Ruleke: | so on tvout you can see the nice bios and boot sequence and then nothing :) |
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| [14:11:08] | Juski: | right folks... Uk peeps take note. MythTV will be on show at the LinuxWorld Expo on October 25/26th at Olympia in London. |
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| [14:11:45] | Ruleke: | huzzah |
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| [14:25:49] | Juski: | more details soon (promise).. so see you there :) |
| [14:26:09] | Ruleke: | bit far for me |
| [14:26:38] | Ruleke: | I think it involves getting fingerprinted or something these days :P |
| [14:27:17] | Juski: | shame it's during the week too |
| [14:29:04] | Juski: | but.. it's the 2nd time mythtv will have been exhibited in the UK |
| [14:29:58] | Krazylegz: | Juski: You're doing the demo? |
| [14:32:36] | Juski: | aye |
| [14:32:43] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Fly me over, we're get drunk and streak the event |
| [14:32:56] | CBMz: | umm hi |
| [14:33:01] | CBMz: | i need help setting up lirc |
| [14:33:03] | Juski: | lol GreyFoxx |
| [14:33:04] | GreyFoxx: | mean, my typing looks like I'm drunk already heh |
| [14:33:13] | CBMz: | i tried the most simple command in .lircrc |
| [14:33:17] | CBMz: | this: |
| [14:33:27] | CBMz: | begin |
| [14:33:29] | Juski: | CBMz: have you tried #lirc ? |
| [14:33:31] | CBMz: | remote = RM-0010 |
| [14:33:31] | CBMz: | prog = irexec |
| [14:33:31] | CBMz: | button = TV/FM |
| [14:33:31] | CBMz: | config = echo "Hi" |
| [14:33:31] | CBMz: | repeat = 0 |
| [14:33:32] | CBMz: | end |
| [14:33:36] | CBMz: | Juski: it's dry |
| [14:33:40] | CBMz: | Juski: none answers there. |
| [14:33:55] | Juski: | CBMz: that won't work. to execute programs you need irxevent |
| [14:34:15] | CBMz: | Juski: even for echo "Hi"? |
| [14:34:18] | Juski: | yes |
| [14:34:31] | CBMz: | Juski: so how do i get irxevent? does it come with suse? |
| [14:34:59] | CBMz: | Juski: oh sorry, "i will google before asking stupid questions" |
| [14:35:03] | Juski: | no idea |
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| [14:47:27] | CBMz: | Juski: umm.. irxevent didn't help me here either. |
| [14:47:38] | CBMz: | begin |
| [14:47:38] | CBMz: | remote = RM-0010 |
| [14:47:38] | CBMz: | prog = irxevent |
| [14:47:38] | CBMz: | button = STOP |
| [14:47:38] | CBMz: | config = Key V xmms |
| [14:47:39] | CBMz: | end |
| [14:47:51] | CBMz: | that was an example |
| [14:48:08] | Juski: | you misunderstood |
| [14:48:20] | Juski: | have a good read through the lirc.org documentation |
| [14:48:28] | CBMz: | i hate reading. |
| [14:48:41] | Juski: | good luck then! |
| [14:48:48] | CBMz: | i also tried doing the same with the normal lirc |
| [14:49:01] | CBMz: | but not with "key something blah" |
| [14:49:19] | CBMz: | it's like, not responding to my commands. |
| [14:50:20] | Juski: | the last I will say about this is that the reason what you're doing is not working is: .lircrc files are only designed for programmes which can use lirc natively AFAIK. for executing programs & scripts with IR button presses you need to use irxevent |
| [14:50:28] | Juski: | read the documentation |
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| [14:52:57] | Ruleke: | but..but... he HATES reading.. surely we should read it for him ? |
| [14:53:38] | CBMz: | Well, if i knew the page, i would happily read it, but i don't actually feel like reading alot of pages |
| [14:58:29] | jams: | interesting, somebody has managed to get the sony vaio media changer to work with linux |
| [14:59:12] | Ruleke: | oooh |
| [14:59:18] | Ruleke: | that _is_ interesting |
| [14:59:25] | Ruleke: | url ? |
| [14:59:35] | jams: | -users mailing list |
| [14:59:39] | Ruleke: | k |
| [15:00:04] | jams: | subject SONY VAIO MEDIA CHANGER |
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| [15:01:47] | Ruleke: | yep already found it :) |
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| [15:02:05] | Juski: | CBMz: this is funny. I don't feel like typing a lot of text :-P |
| [15:02:24] | CBMz: | umm |
| [15:02:31] | Ruleke: | hmm no sign of patch or anything |
| [15:02:35] | CBMz: | Juski: just link me to the page |
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| [15:03:47] | Juski: | www.lirc.org |
| [15:03:51] | ** Ruleke gags himself ** | |
| [15:04:16] | Ruleke: | need to be polite |
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| [15:22:32] | Juski: | ooo .. thirty four fucking quid to park at olympia for 2 days!!!! |
| [15:22:40] | Juski: | I know what they can do with that |
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| [15:24:37] | sigger: | wow, just looking at the manual for my new plasma. manual contains GPL and Lesser GPL. Huh? Well .... the TV contains a linux running CPU! |
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| [15:33:13] | Juski: | hope that means it's easy to get it working right on your mythtv box ;-) |
| [15:33:15] | FinnTux: | any idea how close 0.20 is? I just tested it and I'm very tempted to upgrade already... |
| [15:33:39] | FinnTux: | except my wife will kill me if it doesn't work after all :) |
| [15:35:35] | Ribs: | lol |
| [15:36:25] | FinnTux: | new features look really nice – mytharchive, internal dvd player (with nav support) and faster channel change on my hauppauge dvb cards |
| [15:38:17] | Ribs: | I was also tempted to upgrade, and did so |
| [15:38:23] | Ribs: | but I did regret the decision |
| [15:38:42] | FinnTux: | problems? |
| [15:38:47] | Ribs: | for some reason, /etc/init,d/myth-backend did not want to work anymore |
| [15:38:52] | Ribs: | and, the backend kept crashing |
| [15:39:21] | FinnTux: | too bad. I seem to have problems with dvb subtitles |
| [15:39:25] | Ribs: | I only want 0.20 for the better dvb support |
| [15:39:29] | FinnTux: | they only flash briefly |
| [15:39:38] | Ribs: | I've just got the machine up and running again (HD crashed) |
| [15:39:45] | Ribs: | and, of course, half the channels are not found |
| [15:41:12] | Krazylegz: | Anyone have a handy link or rundown on what MythControl actually DOES? |
| [15:41:24] | Krazylegz: | I see it listed in Portage and some hits from Google, but no homepage. |
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| [15:43:03] | Krazylegz: | Sorry guys. It's "mythcontrols" not "mythcontrol." :-) |
| [15:43:54] | FinnTux: | eh...now subtitles work |
| [15:44:17] | sigger: | Juski: of course it won't be!!! |
| [15:44:46] | Ribs: | FinnTux, how did you upgrade? grab SVN and compile? |
| [15:45:01] | sigger: | now if I could just get myth uploaded onto the tv's cpu.... |
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| [15:45:31] | FinnTux: | yes |
| [15:46:11] | Ribs: | hrm |
| [15:46:16] | FinnTux: | testing on my laptop and hauppauge USB DVB-T "card" |
| [15:46:21] | FinnTux: | debian unstable |
| [15:46:24] | Ribs: | I guess I should wait for updated packages |
| [15:46:33] | ** Ribs doesn't want to break things again ** | |
| [15:47:22] | FinnTux: | compiling it yourself is not that hard |
| [15:47:52] | FinnTux: | and installing in /usr/local won't mess up rest of the system and package management |
| [15:47:55] | Ribs: | well, this machine takes an age to compile |
| [15:48:13] | Ribs: | The only thing I really want is all my DVB channels, and I guess I can add them manually |
| [15:48:36] | FinnTux: | 'scan' find them all? |
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| [15:48:40] | FinnTux: | finds* |
| [15:54:39] | Ribs: | scan only finds some of them |
| [15:54:43] | Ribs: | well, most of them, to be honest |
| [15:54:56] | Ribs: | I've been told it's a problem in 0.19 |
| [15:55:03] | FinnTux: | are you sure your signal is ok? |
| [15:55:06] | Ribs: | yet 0.20's scan just froze part-way through |
| [15:55:12] | Ribs: | oh yeah, the single is fine |
| [15:55:20] | Ribs: | I have a normal freeview box here as well |
| [15:55:25] | Ribs: | reports a very strong signal |
| [15:55:30] | FinnTux: | k |
| [15:55:44] | Ribs: | and when I imported a channels.conf file orginally, it worked okay, except the channel numbers were all screwed up |
| [15:55:50] | FinnTux: | hmm, btw, by 'scan' I meant scan that comes with dvb-utils |
| [15:55:59] | Ribs: | oh |
| [15:56:01] | Ribs: | yeah, that finds 'em |
| [15:56:03] | FinnTux: | not mythtv's scan |
| [15:56:06] | FinnTux: | ah ok |
| [15:56:11] | FinnTux: | its mythtv then |
| [15:56:15] | Ribs: | yeah |
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| [16:02:23] | Ribs: | oh cool |
| [16:02:33] | Ribs: | just scanning again seems to have picked up the missing channels |
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| [16:08:45] | SlicerDicer-: | if your happy and you know it clap your hands! |
| [16:10:17] | ** FinnTux claps his hands ** | |
| [16:10:33] | Juski: | yeh yeah yeh.. scan scan scan scan scan til you have all the channels :) |
| [16:11:31] | Juski: | maybe your signal isn't as clean as it could be, Ribs |
| [16:11:42] | Ribs: | meh |
| [16:11:52] | Ribs: | I have a load of double entries now |
| [16:11:57] | Ribs: | phpmyadmin to the rescue! |
| [16:12:10] | Juski: | "my freeview box is fine" != working dvb-t PC tuner |
| [16:12:41] | Juski: | if tv card manufacturers always bothered to use decent quality tuners,... |
| [16:12:48] | SlicerDicer-: | lol FinnTux |
| [16:12:53] | Ribs: | well, if my POS freeview box which is about as stable as Windows 98 on prozac can cope with my signal, then the computer should... :P |
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| [16:13:07] | Juski: | no guarantees |
| [16:13:20] | Ribs: | obviously not |
| [16:13:40] | Juski: | a PC is the last place you'd want to put a device which needs to be sensitive to radio frequency energy anyway |
| [16:13:46] | Juski: | in an ideal world |
| [16:14:00] | Juski: | that's the single redeeming feature of USB tuners |
| [16:14:10] | Juski: | other than that they suck (cos USB sucks) |
| [16:16:05] | Ribs: | the 'on air guide' problem (using too many CPU cycles)... does that only affect lower end systems like mine? |
| [16:16:14] | Juski: | nope |
| [16:16:43] | Juski: | shouldn't affect any 0.20 systems (or indeed svn). IIRC EIT is about due another rewrite (!) |
| [16:16:52] | Ribs: | so it will screw up any system? |
| [16:17:03] | Juski: | pretty much |
| [16:17:07] | Ribs: | crap :/ |
| [16:17:21] | Juski: | the problem is caused by the vast amaount of mysql queries it generates |
| [16:17:39] | Juski: | xmltv ain't so bad |
| [16:17:53] | ** Ribs is setting up xmltv now ** | |
| [16:18:12] | Ribs: | this is strange tho... how can botht he 'use on air guide' box be ticked, and I be able to put in a XMLTV ID? |
| [16:18:13] | Juski: | you get 14 days' worth of data, and the descriptions are much better |
| [16:18:35] | Juski: | heh.. because you can.. just one will override the other. |
| [16:18:57] | Juski: | some work is being looked into for aggregating the two at some point, which will be very very cool |
| [16:19:20] | Ribs: | when I un-tick, and tick the box again, the entry box for the xml data is ghosted out |
| [16:19:24] | ** Ribs figures that's a bug ** | |
| [16:19:45] | Juski: | like "get the main data from xmltv but if the schedule changes (as informed by EIT) the change gets put in and you don't miss your show cos the times have been changed" |
| [16:19:58] | Juski: | but that's a wee way off yet |
| [16:20:27] | Juski: | it'd be handy for when poo idull overruns by 8 hours etc |
| [16:22:30] | Ribs: | that would be very sexy |
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| [16:23:14] | barry254: | hey all |
| [16:23:33] | Ribs: | hi |
| [16:24:10] | barry254: | is anyone successfully using the "Stream mythtv recordings from mythweb using flash video" mod? |
| [16:24:26] | barry254: | new to mythtv and trying to set it up...not working thus far and need help troubleshooting |
| [16:25:40] | Juski: | not tried that one myself yet.. but I got mythstreamtv working in a couple of hours |
| [16:26:06] | barry254: | ah...i tried that first and gave up on it...maybe i should go back and try again |
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| [16:26:44] | Ribs: | Juski, do you have a xmltv id handy for BBC 3? |
| [16:27:15] | barry254: | the prob i had with mythstreamtv is that the binaries for ffmpeg and vlc that exist for ubuntu didn't seem to work with the options mythstreamtv wanted...and when i tried to compile myself, the make/install files didn't work. sort of new to this :-( |
| [16:27:24] | Ribs: | and bbc4... |
| [16:29:39] | Juski: | choice.bbc.co.uk |
| [16:29:50] | Juski: | bbc4 is knowledge.bbc.co.uk |
| [16:29:58] | Ribs: | ta |
| [16:30:25] | Juski: | look in /usr/share/xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt/channel_ids for them, Ribs |
| [16:30:31] | Ribs: | ah |
| [16:30:32] | Ribs: | thanks |
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| [17:07:48] | Juski: | hometime I think |
| [17:08:03] | Hoxzer_: | but you are nt sure :( |
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| [17:08:21] | Hoxzer_: | I have decided that it is a sin to be unsure |
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| [18:10:09] | Juski: | whoah it's not been this quiet for aaaages |
| [18:10:35] | barry253: | new here...thought maybe this is usual |
| [18:11:01] | barry253: | in MY day on IRC...we used to go weeks, YEARS even without saying a word...and we LIKED it like that |
| [18:12:06] | opello: | heh, your day on irc was ...? |
| [18:12:47] | barry253: | mid 90s :-)] |
| [18:13:11] | opello: | heh, i started in 94/95, and i guess i've always been in pretty busy channels |
| [18:14:11] | barry253: | well the channels i used to frequent had lots of action...but most of it was bots |
| [18:14:22] | poonj: | hey guys |
| [18:14:29] | opello: | ah, fun fun |
| [18:14:37] | barry253: | hey poo...poon...er...poonj |
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| [18:24:50] | antiPosix: | does the mythtv.org website appear to be down to anyone? |
| [18:25:13] | grevees: | yes |
| [18:25:15] | jams: | antiPosix- yes people are working on it |
| [18:25:23] | grevees: | ahh, ok... would explain it |
| [18:25:31] | grevees: | since its down, have a quick question |
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| [18:25:47] | grevees: | around the edges of my display (projection tv) hey seem to be a bit blury |
| [18:25:52] | grevees: | *they |
| [18:26:05] | grevees: | any option in myth to take care of that? |
| [18:26:27] | antiPosix: | it would be a factor of the TV out driver that you are using |
| [18:26:45] | grevees: | ahh, ok... gotch |
| [18:26:46] | antiPosix: | or a factor of the VGA to Composite device |
| [18:26:47] | grevees: | a |
| [18:26:54] | grevees: | hmmmm |
| [18:27:09] | antiPosix: | how are you getting the video feed to the projector? |
| [18:27:14] | grevees: | how long of a buffer does myth usually keep?? as in how far back can you rewind? |
| [18:27:20] | grevees: | Svid |
| [18:27:32] | antiPosix: | SVid from your video card? |
| [18:27:39] | grevees: | its not a BIG blur, just a tiny one |
| [18:27:42] | grevees: | yulp |
| [18:27:48] | grevees: | geforce6200 turbo cache |
| [18:27:55] | der0b: | hi folks, before I start going to town with myth, can anyone tell me if there's a way to index dvds and then browse them? I also need to know how well myth deals with downloaded tv shows (I really just need a front end for my media and I'm done with the Windows solutions) |
| [18:28:05] | antiPosix: | what happens if you plug in a DVD player to the projector? |
| [18:28:16] | antiPosix: | is the projector focused properly? |
| [18:28:17] | grevees: | looks amazing |
| [18:28:22] | grevees: | yulp |
| [18:28:32] | antiPosix: | what brand projector? |
| [18:28:36] | grevees: | regular feed form the Dishnet box comes across clear as day, and so does DVD |
| [18:28:37] | jams: | site should be back now |
| [18:28:41] | grevees: | its a Hitcahi |
| [18:28:50] | antiPosix: | thanks jammin jams |
| [18:28:52] | grevees: | older one |
| [18:29:21] | grevees: | its prolly just a little thing that I'm only gonna notice NEWays :) |
| [18:29:32] | grevees: | you know how it is :) |
| [18:29:56] | grevees: | <--- trying to be a perfectionist |
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| [18:40:13] | poonj: | hey guys |
| [18:40:18] | poonj: | I'm still having the same problem |
| [18:40:26] | poonj: | I am able to record TV and watch it |
| [18:40:42] | Dark`-`: | that sounds like a problem to me :) |
| [18:40:57] | poonj: | but live TV is giving me problems. When I try to watch live TV, the screen blinks and goes back to the mythtv menu |
| [18:41:32] | Anduin: | poonj: Still the empty channel? |
| [18:41:36] | poonj: | yeah |
| [18:42:56] | barry253: | Juski – got flash working! |
| [18:43:05] | barry253: | sweeeet |
| [18:43:23] | barry253: | here comes BarryTube |
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| [18:45:18] | antiPosix: | this has been bugging me for a while. When I boot my Ubuntu Hoary distro, I first need to kill the esd daemon so mythtv can use the /dev/dsp. Ubuntu will not let me gracefully remove this daemon. Anyone get around this little pain? |
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| [18:47:42] | barry253: | antiPosix – try System->Preferences->Sound Preferences->uncheck ESD |
| [18:47:46] | barry253: | and restart X |
| [18:49:10] | antiPosix: | thanks |
| [18:49:17] | barry253: | np |
| [18:50:16] | antiPosix: | poonj: go to the console where mythfrontend is running and see if there are unable to connect to db errors |
| [18:50:33] | antiPosix: | poonj: is the backend on the same machine as the frontend? |
| [18:51:19] | poonj: | yes |
| [18:51:31] | poonj: | its able to connect to the DB |
| [18:51:36] | poonj: | because I'm able to record |
| [18:51:43] | poonj: | and I'm watching the video through mythweb |
| [18:54:18] | Anduin: | poonj: pastebin more of the backend log, your last one cut it too short |
| [18:56:49] | Anduin: | poonj: You are using zap2it? |
| [18:57:13] | poonj: | yeah |
| [18:57:15] | poonj: | Anduin, |
| [18:57:19] | poonj: | it works for some reason now |
| [18:57:25] | Anduin: | poonj: Why did you channel scan? |
| [18:57:27] | poonj: | but for some reason |
| [18:58:41] | tank-man: | anyone know why pressing "e" wont do anything while watching a recording? |
| [19:00:11] | Anduin: | tank-man: Your recordedmarkup table is ok? |
| [19:00:30] | tank-man: | how do i know if it is ok? |
| [19:01:22] | Anduin: | tank-man: run your favorite MySQL tool to check the tables. |
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| [19:02:06] | tank-man: | thats beyond my knowledge level. i've loooked at the keybindings in mythweb and they are ok |
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| [19:03:42] | Anduin: | tank-man: They make friendly GUI tools, there is also a script in contrib |
| [19:04:15] | Immolo: | A simple question but to all transcoded videos go in the same place as the raw ones? |
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| [19:05:39] | der0b: | hi folks, before I start going to town with myth, can anyone tell me if there's a way to index dvds (without ripping) and then browse them (covers, imdb data, etc)? I also need to know how well myth deals with downloaded tv shows (I really just need a front end for my media and I'm done with the Windows solutions) |
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| [19:05:51] | Anduin: | Immolo: Yes, there is a secret option to not delete the original, but otherwise yes. |
| [19:06:22] | Immolo: | Anduin: it's just I can't find the transcoded ones |
| [19:06:33] | Immolo: | or the raw ones |
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| [19:06:54] | Anduin: | Immolo: Once transcode is done the DB record for the recording will contain the new transcoded file. |
| [19:07:17] | Immolo: | thanks |
| [19:07:51] | Anduin: | der0b: MythVideo doesn't directly handle non-imported DVDs. Downloading TV is usually wrong. |
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| [19:12:22] | poonj: | hey guys |
| [19:12:29] | poonj: | can the image viewer in myth see tifs? |
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| [19:13:55] | Juski: | poonj: try it |
| [19:14:44] | poonj: | it won't import! |
| [19:15:01] | Juski: | so the answer would be no then :) |
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| [19:20:44] | Juski: | hrm. suddenly seems that driving loads of computer gear to London for that expo isn't as practical as I first thought. ideally having a lan-party style bag containing the system would be the best way to go |
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| [19:21:06] | Ribs: | wow, just a new hard drive has really made a difference to this old machine |
| [19:21:27] | Juski: | bloody London and its car-hating ways |
| [19:21:30] | ** Ribs is kinda regretting that he's upgrading it to heavily now :> ** | |
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| [19:23:32] | Juski: | too heavy an upgrade? pah & tish |
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| [19:24:05] | Juski: | youch! £130 a night for hotels near the venue? wah! |
| [19:25:55] | Juski: | lol. found the ideal place.. "the beaver hotel".. from £32 a night. lol |
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| [19:36:41] | Krazylegz: | Juski: Yes, but are you a Beaver? :-) |
| [19:36:51] | Juski: | no but I like beavers |
| [19:39:20] | Juski: | never mind bounties there should be a donation fund for sending people on jollies.. erm.. I mean for people to help promote mythtv |
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| [19:46:20] | poonj: | hey guys |
| [19:46:28] | poonj: | how do you setup autologin with gdm? |
| [19:46:36] | poonj: | I tried running gdmsetup and entered the username |
| [19:46:45] | poonj: | but it still boots up to the login screen |
| [19:50:32] | Anduin: | poonj: timeout login is better |
| [19:50:34] | Zider: | isnt gdm a bit overkill for mythtv? |
| [19:50:53] | poonj: | Anduin, so after 10 seconds? |
| [19:51:21] | Anduin: | poonj: or less (but not less than 5) |
| [19:51:36] | Anduin: | Zider: gdm doesn't have to start gnome |
| [19:52:18] | Zider: | Anduin: no, but if you dont need to login at all, why use a gnomebloated login manager? :P |
| [19:52:45] | Anduin: | Zider: It is usually there, autologin has fallen in favor, etc |
| [19:53:15] | Zider: | I dont have any login manager at all.. :P |
| [19:53:41] | Anduin: | Zider: How do you auto start? |
| [19:53:56] | Zider: | Anduin: crontab |
| [19:54:03] | GreyFoxx: | wow really? |
| [19:54:21] | GreyFoxx: | if ! grep noautologin /proc/cmdline 1> /dev/null 2> /dev/null ; then |
| [19:54:22] | GreyFoxx: | echo "Launching XWindows" |
| [19:54:22] | GreyFoxx: | su – mythtv -c "bash -l startx — -dpi 100" & |
| [19:54:22] | GreyFoxx: | fi |
| [19:54:32] | poonj: | Anduin, I'll give it a tr |
| [19:54:33] | GreyFoxx: | that's at the end of rc.pvr which is at the end of rc.local |
| [19:54:37] | poonj: | Thanks! |
| [19:54:40] | GreyFoxx: | no login managers, no problems |
| [19:54:56] | Zider: | GreyFoxx: thats a way to do it ofcourse ;) |
| [19:54:58] | GreyFoxx: | and I can pass "noautologin" or "nopvr" at the boot prompt to skip launching them |
| [19:55:04] | Juski: | and you automagically get the required 100dpi ;) |
| [19:55:13] | GreyFoxx: | yup :) |
| [19:56:19] | GreyFoxx: | rc.pvr calls rc.ivtv to load the ivtv stuff, rc.mythtv to launch mythbackend and such, loads the module for my remote and finally launches X. but I have similar "noXXXX" options for each |
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| [19:57:35] | Anduin: | I have a nomyth/noivtv and five seconds of gdm before twm |
| [19:59:08] | GreyFoxx: | http://pastebin.ca/163693 for those that are interested |
| [20:02:13] | Anduin: | GreyFoxx: Do you really need the force NTSC stuff still? |
| [20:02:48] | GreyFoxx: | Nope, but it's legacy from when I originally wrote the scripts years ago and I've had no reason to remove it |
| [20:03:34] | GreyFoxx: | I should note I am still running ivtv 0.20rc3j |
| [20:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | So the ivtv script would get smaller since I no longer have to manually load a couple of those modules |
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| [20:09:11] | bongalo: | see, now you guys have me thinking of setting up a mythtv user on the system. |
| [20:09:34] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [20:13:08] | bongalo: | that does make a lot of sense. I could jail it to a specific dir, /opt/mythtv. this will prevent myself from using any other user on the system. and its more secure this way too. Dang you GreyFoxx, your making additional work for me! |
| [20:13:23] | Anduin: | I call my myth user pvr so I can abandon mythtv at the drop of a hat and move to some other program. |
| [20:13:41] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [20:29:02] | Juski: | Anduin: huh? there are other programs? |
| [20:29:04] | Juski: | ;-) |
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| [20:35:59] | poonj: | hey guys |
| [20:36:10] | poonj: | I'm able to stream the video onto my linux box using mplayer |
| [20:36:25] | poonj: | but my roommates have windows computers and its not playing in quicktime |
| [20:36:33] | poonj: | does the video have to finish recording before they can watch? |
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| [20:38:24] | Speedy2: | poonj: Get mplayer for win32! |
| [20:38:26] | Anduin: | poonj: Does it suddenly work when the video is done? |
| [20:38:31] | Speedy2: | poonj: "MPUI" is a good GUI for windows |
| [20:38:38] | poonj: | let me stop the recording |
| [20:38:43] | poonj: | but its weird |
| [20:38:48] | poonj: | it works for me through mplaye |
| [20:38:56] | poonj: | but not for my roommate |
| [20:39:19] | Anduin: | poonj: They are just clicking on it from mythweb? |
| [20:39:56] | poonj: | yeah |
| [20:40:14] | poonj: | its a raw mpg2 feed |
| [20:40:57] | Anduin: | poonj: You sure it isn't really a myth:// url? |
| [20:41:15] | poonj: | http://192.168.1.107/data/recordings/1002_20060907133100.mpg |
| [20:41:17] | poonj: | thats the link |
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| [20:42:46] | Anduin: | poonj: relying on http streaming for that is probably a bad idea |
| [20:42:52] | poonj: | umm okay |
| [20:42:57] | poonj: | what is a better method? |
| [20:44:07] | Anduin: | poonj: Some people use Samba and have a file:// URL |
| [20:44:23] | poonj: | umm okay |
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| [20:52:01] | poonj: | hey guys |
| [20:52:05] | poonj: | where can I get mythlink.pl? |
| [20:52:16] | kormoc: | google? |
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| [20:52:37] | poonj: | it sends me to newsgrops! |
| [20:52:44] | Anduin: | poonj: Use mythrename.pl |
| [20:53:16] | Anduin: | (it can create links, and is in contrib) |
| [20:54:07] | poonj: | do you setup a cron job for that? |
| [20:54:26] | poonj: | so that it updates |
| [20:54:50] | Anduin: | poonj: Yes that is what you would do |
| [20:57:37] | poonj: | okay |
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| [21:25:23] | xris: | Krazylegz: where's your resume? |
| [21:25:32] | grevees: | Hey all, can anyone tell me how large the live tv buffer is? |
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| [21:27:47] | kormoc: | grevees, as big as your drive? |
| [21:27:55] | opello: | isn't it customizable? |
| [21:27:55] | xris: | grevees: there is no more buffer |
| [21:28:10] | xris: | opello: no. livetv is just a recording like everything else. |
| [21:28:11] | kormoc: | opello, there isn't a buffer anymore, live tv just gets expired first |
| [21:28:17] | opello: | xris: yeah i still use .18.1 |
| [21:28:20] | xris: | I think the max per file is 8 hours |
| [21:28:21] | opello: | xris: sorry :/ |
| [21:28:25] | xris: | opello: then it's configurable |
| [21:28:30] | grevees: | ahh...... hmmmm |
| [21:28:48] | grevees: | is there a limit on how far you can "rewind" live tv? |
| [21:29:07] | opello: | why an 8 hr limit, out of curiosity? |
| [21:29:33] | grevees: | cause I know last night I paused tv, got my wife to see something, and before she could put on her glasses, the tv restarted itself |
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| [21:29:52] | grevees: | walked in the room and the tv wasn't paused and was playing |
| [21:30:17] | grevees: | wondering if there is a setting to increase |
| [21:32:04] | xris: | upgrading to .20 would be better (sunday, hopefully) |
| [21:32:34] | xris: | otherwise, there's a setting, but I don't remember where. either in the frontend or mythtv-setup |
| [21:33:10] | grevees: | ahh, gotcha |
| [21:33:18] | grevees: | I got the latest SVN..... |
| [21:33:32] | xris: | that works. tpp/ |
| [21:33:33] | xris: | too |
| [21:33:47] | xris: | "latest svn" should be .20 this weekend |
| [21:33:53] | xris: | just need to fix a few lingering bugs |
| [21:34:12] | grevees: | anything I need ot do different to upgrade? |
| [21:34:15] | grevees: | *to |
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| [21:35:20] | grevees: | as in anyting to save for settings, etc |
| [21:35:56] | xris: | back up your database |
| [21:36:00] | xris: | "just in case" |
| [21:36:08] | grevees: | gotcha |
| [21:36:08] | xris: | other than that, it should be pretty automatic |
| [21:36:34] | grevees: | just get the latest svn, then install as usual, correct? |
| [21:36:53] | xris: | yup. |
| [21:37:05] | grevees: | kewl, thx xris |
| [21:37:56] | grevees: | gotta say I am liking myth a ton better than VDR |
| [21:38:44] | Speedy2: | grevees: VDR is supposed to be "better" for watching LiveTV...you like Myth works better for that? |
| [21:38:55] | Speedy2: | err, does Myth seem to work better for that. |
| [21:39:26] | grevees: | i haven't had any issues yet |
| [21:39:35] | grevees: | especially with recordings |
| [21:39:41] | xris: | I've been using mythtv for almost 4 years with very few issues. |
| [21:39:43] | grevees: | VDR had ALOT of sync issues |
| [21:39:44] | xris: | never used anything else, though |
| [21:39:58] | grevees: | recording was not fun |
| [21:40:02] | xris: | I don't use livetv, either, though. |
| [21:40:05] | xris: | grevees: mythweb. :) |
| [21:40:31] | grevees: | 5 min into the recording with vdr and the sync was off by about 1–2 seconds |
| [21:41:02] | grevees: | the only thing I don't like about live with myth is the delay... but its about 1 full second |
| [21:41:29] | Speedy2: | grevees: sync in the recording was off? What output device were you using? (I'm curious since I'm evaluating both programs) |
| [21:41:56] | grevees: | I was using a dvb-s card |
| [21:42:11] | Speedy2: | grevees: Right, output device == softdevice, xine-lib, etc. |
| [21:42:12] | grevees: | at the time I was using it it was a known issue that was "in the works" |
| [21:42:35] | xris: | grevees: the delay is because mythtv actually encodes livetv into a recording. you'll get that with any hardware encoder cards, and smaller delays with stuff like dvb |
| [21:42:36] | grevees: | I spent about 1 year with it and finally got fed up |
| [21:42:51] | grevees: | yeah.... and its fine with me |
| [21:43:26] | grevees: | it also seems that myth is a little more mature, and the developers/main coders actually listen |
| [21:43:43] | xris: | haha.. you've never seen chutt argue, have you? :) |
| [21:43:48] | grevees: | heard alot of bad things about Klaus |
| [21:43:57] | xris: | who is klaus? |
| [21:44:03] | grevees: | klaus is the developer for VDR |
| [21:44:06] | xris: | oh |
| [21:44:31] | grevees: | people brought up alot of things wrong, and he said if it works fine on his end, they aren't being fixed |
| [21:45:39] | grevees: | it just seems as if the myth devs want the product to get better and better |
| [21:45:47] | grevees: | but then again thats just my view |
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| [21:46:33] | xris: | I would like to hope so. the worst problem we have is users not providing enough info about problems. |
| [21:49:16] | grevees: | to be honest, i have yet to run into a problem with myth at all.... seems very stable |
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| [21:49:55] | xris: | it's gotten pretty good over the years. |
| [21:49:59] | grevees: | now I just gotta figure out lirc |
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| [21:50:17] | xris: | there are currently a few lingering dvb transcode bugs, but they'll get fixed as soon as Geoff has time to look into things |
| [21:50:17] | grevees: | went out and bought a harmony 520 today |
| [21:50:24] | xris: | lirc is a huge PITA. |
| [21:50:24] | stuarta: | lotta stabilization gone into the last 2 versions. |
| [21:50:45] | grevees: | hmm, reccomend anything besides lirc then? |
| [21:50:52] | stuarta: | I still can't bring myself to even try setting up a remote... |
| [21:50:55] | xris: | grevees: there isn't anything |
| [21:51:07] | grevees: | thgout so... I used winlirc in the past |
| [21:51:15] | Speedy2: | What is a harmony 520? |
| [21:51:22] | grevees: | actually had to do my own remote config, and build my own ir reciever |
| [21:51:27] | xris: | Speedy2: logitech remote |
| [21:51:32] | Speedy2: | lirc is a pain, but I think if you compile from it's not horrible. |
| [21:51:32] | grevees: | look it up on logitech website |
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| [21:51:46] | Speedy2: | grevees: How do you like it? |
| [21:51:48] | grevees: | its their entry level remote |
| [21:51:53] | grevees: | its nice |
| [21:52:01] | xris: | I like microsoft's MCE remote a lot |
| [21:52:05] | kormoc: | I really love my mce usb2 remote |
| [21:52:11] | xris: | I never use it (too easy to use keybord), but it's nice. |
| [21:52:26] | grevees: | I press the button corrisponding with watch tv, and the tv turns on, tunes to vid 1, sat receiver turns on and I'm ready to go |
| [21:53:01] | grevees: | press watch dvd, dvd player turns on, tv tunes to vid2 and I'm off |
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| [21:53:23] | grevees: | best $24 USD i spent |
| [21:53:29] | grevees: | :) |
| [21:53:44] | grevees: | they are supposed to reatil for 99.00 |
| [21:53:49] | Speedy2: | grevees: Are you doing DVB with Myth? |
| [21:53:56] | grevees: | gotta love wal-mart |
| [21:53:57] | grevees: | not yet |
| [21:54:06] | grevees: | just got my PVR500 setup |
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| [21:54:15] | grevees: | HDTV will be next |
| [21:54:19] | grevees: | then dvb |
| [21:55:04] | grevees: | but i got to leave town this weekend... so it will have to wait until next week for that |
| [21:56:27] | xris: | dvb in the US? |
| [21:56:31] | grevees: | yulp |
| [21:56:37] | xris: | with what? |
| [21:56:43] | grevees: | Skystar2 |
| [21:56:54] | xris: | fta? |
| [21:57:12] | grevees: | yulp |
| [21:58:05] | xris: | what size dish? I've been thinking of getting into that. tried it out with my dishnetwork stuff, but their lnb is incompatible with most pci cards (including mine) |
| [21:58:46] | xris: | or rather, their diseqc switch |
| [21:58:57] | Speedy2: | get a new switch. |
| [21:59:13] | xris: | it's gone now |
| [21:59:35] | stuarta: | is dishnet the only dvb provider? |
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| [22:00:05] | kormoc: | thanks muchly o_cee |
| [22:00:16] | o_cee: | kormoc: you're welcome :) |
| [22:00:18] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v kormoc | |
| [22:00:20] | GreyFoxx: | Hehe I was wondering what that was :) |
| [22:00:39] | GreyFoxx: | Danke |
| [22:00:43] | o_cee: | :) |
| [22:00:59] | o_cee: | people say you are good at keeping things good in here |
| [22:01:08] | grevees: | one sec |
| [22:01:11] | grevees: | on phone xris |
| [22:01:18] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v GreyFoxx | |
| [22:01:27] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v jams | |
| [22:01:35] | GreyFoxx: | We try anywayheh |
| [22:01:54] | stuarta: | even if you need to borrow Beirdo's trout :) |
| [22:01:55] | o_cee: | you know what the deal is i guess, no mis-use and yadda yadda.. obvious stuff |
| [22:02:03] | GreyFoxx: | mmm trout |
| [22:02:14] | kormoc: | o_cee, so no /ban *@*.*? Drat... :P |
| [22:02:20] | o_cee: | kormoc: heh :) |
| [22:03:10] | o_cee: | hey one more :) |
| [22:03:21] | stuarta: | cheers :) |
| [22:03:27] | o_cee: | more people? |
| [22:03:30] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v stuarta | |
| [22:06:05] | jk1joel: | is anyone besides me getting notices from ChanServ every minute or so? |
| [22:06:36] | stuarta: | jk1joel: don't worry. o_cee's just doing some maintainence... |
| [22:06:55] | o_cee: | delegating ;) |
| [22:07:02] | jk1joel: | ah. Gaim treats notices like IMs, so windows keep popping up |
| [22:07:18] | jk1joel: | stupid gaim. no ignore feature for IRC |
| [22:07:20] | stuarta: | should be a umode to stop that.... |
| [22:08:14] | grevees: | ok, NEWays |
| [22:08:23] | grevees: | size of dish??? was that your question? |
| [22:08:27] | grevees: | xris |
| [22:08:52] | grevees: | so far all I got is just a 20in dish |
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| [22:23:35] | WAR_CH|LD: | is anyone aware taht the documentation page is broken? |
| [22:24:03] | WAR_CH|LD: | http://mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall |
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| [22:24:38] | Dark`-`: | i think the site was going through some maintenance/issues earlier |
| [22:25:02] | WAR_CH|LD: | cools |
| [22:25:19] | stuarta: | the server shat itself. |
| [22:25:38] | Dark`-`: | im thinkin about going back to mythtv now |
| [22:25:44] | Dark`-`: | i tried mediaportal but its not workin out |
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| [22:30:28] | ** Juski giggles. mediaportal. pleh ** | |
| [22:30:32] | Dark`-`: | hehe |
| [22:31:14] | Juski: | I tried that the other week. dead easy setup. fucked if I knew how to get it to actually DO anything though. I was gonna RTFM but erm.. where was the FM? |
| [22:31:40] | Dark`-`: | well i know it quite well now, fixed some bugs in it that i was having, but its just not at the level mythtv is |
| [22:31:58] | stuarta: | you mean it's not a wiki? |
| [22:32:16] | Juski: | I do think it's kinda cool they've got it to the stage where you don't have to have it all in one box (tm) |
| [22:32:20] | Dark`-`: | and since im US based, and its mainly written by .EU developers, when i try something such as... ATSC, i run into more problems than its wroth |
| [22:32:55] | Juski: | getting mythtv working in linux can be a 'mare for some folks but believe me it's no easier in Windows |
| [22:33:12] | Dark`-`: | oh i know getting it set up isnt easier |
| [22:33:23] | Speedy2: | mediaportal likes to have scrolling menus which is brain dead-dumb for a set-top box. All your main options (DVD, TV, play music, etc) should appear on one screen and be one push of a button away. |
| [22:33:23] | Dark`-`: | but its POSSIBLE to set it up without necessarily changing the source code ;) |
| [22:33:41] | Dark`-`: | thats the problem i had is that its not mature enough yet |
| [22:33:47] | Juski: | Speedy2: that's fine if you have a remote with a million buttons |
| [22:34:13] | Juski: | or a wireless keyboard... |
| [22:34:19] | Dark`-`: | i know linux quite well so im not really worried about that |
| [22:34:46] | Dark`-`: | i only went back to windows because i figured there were quicker solutions there, but just not for me apparently |
| [22:35:04] | Speedy2: | juski: Well, the number of things you want to do with a set-top-box is usually limited to: TV, DVD, Music, Slideshow, Games? |
| [22:35:11] | Dark`-`: | if you just want to watch plain analog cable, hell mediaportal takes 3 minutes to set up for that |
| [22:35:35] | Dark`-`: | but then i wanted to watch dvds with certain codecs or players, watch off-air tv, and whatever else i need, thats when it fails ;) |
| [22:36:28] | Juski: | Speedy2: omit games & slideshow & you're there from my PoV |
| [22:36:54] | Dark`-`: | one thing i never did with mythtv was have dvd playing integrated |
| [22:37:07] | Dark`-`: | i assume its pretty simple, whether its built in or with a plugin |
| [22:37:10] | Speedy2: | Juski: Ok, so basically all of those things can appear without a freaking scrolling menu. i.e. just list those on the screen. |
| [22:37:40] | Juski: | I use xine for dvd playback. my wife went to use it & found she could, even without any tuition |
| [22:37:53] | Speedy2: | Juski: With remote control? |
| [22:38:27] | Juski: | Speedy2: I see your point. The 'bling' some UIs offer look like they only slow things down |
| [22:40:03] | Speedy2: | Yes. Plus you're looking at stuff on a crappy TV, so make things big and simple. |
| [22:40:20] | Speedy2: | I think Myth does that well. |
| [22:40:27] | Speedy2: | Not dumbed down, just simplified. |
| [22:41:12] | Juski: | I _do_ like the new xbmc UI though. the menu transitions are pretty spiffy IMHO |
| [22:41:49] | Dark`-`: | i guess i shoudl wait for the mythtv documents page to reappear ;) |
| [22:41:51] | Juski: | but that kind of thing is really only important for first impressions – the novelty would wear off amazingly fast I expect |
| [22:42:36] | Juski: | folks have raved about Elisa but when you relly think about it, how _usable_ is that UI ? not very, by the looks of it |
| [22:42:43] | Immolo: | I've heard it is possible to make mythtv transcode video to xvid does anyone know if this is true? |
| [22:42:57] | Juski: | with nuvexport, Immolo |
| [22:43:17] | Immolo: | Juski: can I make it do this by default? |
| [22:43:56] | Speedy2: | Juski: Agreed, Elisa looks like it suffers from the same sort of scrolling menu issues. |
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| [22:45:48] | Speedy2: | And their DVD playback doesn't do menus. |
| [22:46:47] | mchou: | Speedy2: how long has elisa been "around?" |
| [22:46:51] | Dark`-`: | Juski: do you use a DE? if you do, which? |
| [22:46:57] | Dark`-`: | just curious |
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| [22:47:15] | Speedy2: | Dark`-`: I use KDE that's been heavily customized. |
| [22:47:26] | Speedy2: | customized == options configured (no patches or strange themes). |
| [22:47:39] | Speedy2: | Dark`-`: I use Windows mostly because of certain programs that don't run on Linux. |
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| [22:47:46] | Dark`-`: | such as what? |
| [22:47:49] | Juski: | Dark`-`: not on my frontend. I've never compared gnome to KDE or anything else. I've no truck with desktop wars |
| [22:48:27] | Dark`-`: | hmm ok |
| [22:48:42] | Juski: | Dark`-`: I tried ubuntu but found it way too limiting. I edit audio & video with Sony Vegas, use Photoshop quite a lot. Audacity & GIMP just don't cut it |
| [22:48:42] | Speedy2: | Dark`-`: Orcad PSpice. |
| [22:48:48] | Speedy2: | Dark`-`: Is an example. |
| [22:48:54] | Dark`-`: | yea im going to install gentoo |
| [22:49:09] | Dark`-`: | hmm they didnt get that working with wine yet? :) |
| [22:49:42] | Speedy2: | Juski: Did you find Audacity sucking for multitrack? I imported 32-tracks that a G4–450 Mhz with Cubase VST (128 MB RAM) does with easy. It killed my K7-MP with 1 GB of RAM. |
| [22:49:43] | Dark`-`: | i know what you mean though, many engineering programs that i use are windows only as well |
| [22:49:52] | Speedy2: | Dark`-`: What kind of engineering do you do? |
| [22:49:59] | Dark`-`: | electrical |
| [22:50:04] | ** Speedy2 salutes. ** | |
| [22:50:09] | Dark`-`: | and computer, dual thing |
| [22:50:21] | Speedy2: | What kinda hardware you design? |
| [22:50:39] | mchou: | that's funny. I know engineering companies that moved their whole toolchain to linux |
| [22:50:41] | Dark`-`: | senior in college, im currently in a software position for a co-op job, havent taken a full tiem yet |
| [22:50:53] | Juski: | Speedy2: I just thought audacity sucked. it's amazing for free but the UI is too limited. I'm too used to zooming around with my mouse rather than having to reach for onscreen buttons |
| [22:51:51] | Dark`-`: | mchou: of course, but major corporations dont |
| [22:51:59] | mchou: | Dark`-`: lol. |
| [22:52:00] | Juski: | zooming into a waveform for example.. find the bit you want, then reach away from the spot to click the 'zoom in' button... damn where was that part again? |
| [22:52:06] | Dark`-`: | :) |
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| [22:52:20] | Speedy2: | mchou: Some programs work well under LInux and some do not have equivalents. |
| [22:52:21] | mchou: | Dark`-`: They ARE the most major corps in Silicon Valley |
| [22:52:34] | Juski: | I guess I could've tried to learn keyboard shortcuts but I'm getting to be an old dog (i.e. no new tricks) |
| [22:52:43] | Speedy2: | mchou: i.e. ModelSIM works wonderfully under Linux. And then some PCB/Schematic Capture programs are Windows only. |
| [22:55:03] | Juski: | well that's our site banner done. I spose I need to try running mythbackend on my s100 box to see how it fares soon |
| [22:55:28] | Juski: | mfe, mbe & mysql in 128MB RAM? hmmm |
| [22:55:37] | Speedy2: | Juski: Did you get TV-out from the Intel Graphics? |
| [22:55:45] | Speedy2: | or interlaced modelines, etc. |
| [22:55:57] | Juski: | Speedy2: yes. I just documented it on my webshite the other day (ish) |
| [22:56:25] | Juski: | I didn't play with any modelines though. they look very tricky with the IEGD |
| [22:57:01] | stuarta: | Juski: was pondering an NSLUG with a usb tuner as a BE |
| [22:57:09] | feld: | anyone know if the Nvidia Dual Tuner card will get Linux support? It's actually circulating the world now, after it launched like 3 months ago...... |
| [22:57:10] | Juski: | judging by what I read in the FM there'd be loads of hassle messing about with binary files |
| [22:57:11] | pushpop-: | When you are just setting up a front end machine, what do you run to configure the front end? when I run mythfrontend it tried to connect to mysql server but I didnt configure it? |
| [22:57:26] | Speedy2: | Does Myth still hvae OSD issues with HD content? (i.e. slow OSD, jerking video, etc) |
| [22:57:26] | Juski: | stuarta: I met a guy at LRL in July who was pondering the very same thing |
| [22:57:31] | tank-man: | mythtv-setup |
| [22:57:40] | pushpop-: | invalid command |
| [22:57:48] | stuarta: | might work as a slave, but the scheduling would kill it... |
| [22:57:58] | Juski: | stuarta: there's even something on the nslug page about it I think |
| [22:57:58] | pushpop-: | command not found |
| [22:58:49] | pushpop-: | tank-man: any ideas, why it cant find mythtv-setup ? |
| [22:59:21] | Juski: | pushpop-: you don't run mythtv-setup on a FE... at least I never have to the best of my knowledge |
| [22:59:58] | Juski: | 1st time you run it it just asks where the backend lives & what language prefs you want and stuff |
| [23:00:10] | pushpop-: | hmm |
| [23:00:36] | Dark`-`: | do most ppl just run the backend on the same pc? |
| [23:01:29] | pushpop-: | Juski: http://pastebin.ca/163826 |
| [23:01:36] | bocaJ: | at my university, the netowrk folks have been switching subnets around so that my computer is now registered as part of a different network, I am now only able to start mythfrontend as root, how can I fix that? |
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| [23:02:02] | tank-man: | pushpop-, cause it is not in your path statement |
| [23:02:30] | pushpop-: | tank-man: how do I resolve that.. sorry I'm kinda new to linux.. |
| [23:02:47] | tank-man: | how did you install mythtv? |
| [23:02:52] | tank-man: | from source? |
| [23:02:58] | mchou: | bocaJ: that makes no sense at all. the only reason a subnet partiton would affect exectute perms is if you can't get authenticated |
| [23:03:03] | pushpop-: | I installed the mythfrontend package? |
| [23:03:25] | pushpop-: | tank-man: via adept manager in kubuntu |
| [23:03:47] | bocaJ: | Is there any chance it could have to do with mysql? |
| [23:03:52] | tank-man: | ask the package maintainer i guess |
| [23:03:59] | mchou: | damn, this dvd drive must be on it's last legs |
| [23:04:05] | pushpop-: | umm |
| [23:04:12] | mchou: | can play only some dvds |
| [23:04:40] | mchou: | getting really annoying |
| [23:04:40] | tank-man: | is there a mythtv-setup somewhere on your harddrive? |
| [23:04:50] | pushpop-: | nope |
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| [23:06:50] | tank-man: | should be one |
| [23:07:49] | pushpop-: | i would have to install the backend to get the mythtv-setup |
| [23:07:55] | pushpop-: | i have the backend running on another machine |
| [23:09:05] | bocaJ: | when I try to start mythTV, I get the error "Host '[new host]' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server" how do I reset these permissions so I can connect as a normal user again? |
| [23:09:16] | Juski: | pushpop-: did you do what I suggested earlier & reconfigure the backend to use its real IP address & re-jig mysql to accept connections from other IP addresses (and the mysql privileges) ? |
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| [23:10:23] | pushpop-: | Juski: I understand what your saying, buy will the frontend autmatically detect the backend? |
| [23:10:31] | pushpop-: | but* |
| [23:11:27] | Juski: | nope |
| [23:11:31] | GreyFoxx: | pushpop-: The frontends talks to mysql to find out what IP the masterbackend is on |
| [23:13:31] | pushpop-: | so it detect mysql running on the network? |
| [23:13:40] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [23:13:42] | GreyFoxx: | you tell it |
| [23:14:04] | GreyFoxx: | The first time you run it, it will ask you were to find it, that information is stored in mysql.txt |
| [23:14:16] | GreyFoxx: | you can edit that file if you didn't point it at the right spot |
| [23:14:27] | pushpop-: | is there a how to on this |
| [23:14:37] | pushpop-: | couldnt find anything helpful when I looked |
| [23:14:49] | GreyFoxx: | What part has you stuck ? |
| [23:15:06] | pushpop-: | well my backend and front end are running great on my main machine |
| [23:15:15] | pushpop-: | now i just set up kubuntu on another machine |
| [23:15:21] | pushpop-: | and I want it to be a front end. |
| [23:15:34] | pushpop-: | I installed mythfrontend on the kubuntu machine |
| [23:15:39] | pushpop-: | when I run it |
| [23:15:41] | pushpop-: | I get http://pastebin.ca/163826 |
| [23:16:11] | Juski: | oh crap. seems my s100 doesn't want to boot up today |
| [23:16:27] | ** stuarta hands Juski the trout ** | |
| [23:16:41] | GreyFoxx: | pushpop-: You need to edit mysql.txt. Odds are your packager created adefault file pointing to localhost which isn't correct |
| [23:16:49] | Juski: | !trout s100 stupid |
| [23:16:49] | ** MythLogBot slaps s100 with a stupid trout on behalf of Juski... ** | |
| [23:16:58] | pushpop-: | so on the kubuntu machine edit the mysql.txt |
| [23:17:05] | GreyFoxx: | correct |
| [23:17:14] | GreyFoxx: | and point it to the IP of themachine with mysql on it |
| [23:17:32] | pushpop-: | where does the mysql.txt reside |
| [23:17:40] | pushpop-: | locate didnt pick it up |
| [23:17:44] | GreyFoxx: | it varies. |
| [23:17:55] | Juski: | ahhh.. it might help if the nfs share the s100 tries to mount in fstab existed |
| [23:18:09] | GreyFoxx: | ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt, /usr/local/share/mythtv/mysql.txt or somewhere in /etc |
| [23:18:18] | GreyFoxx: | packagers put it in various places |
| [23:18:19] | Juski: | and the dhcp server. damn |
| [23:18:21] | ** GreyFoxx hates packages :) ** | |
| [23:18:53] | Juski: | even ones containing gifts? |
| [23:19:11] | pushpop-: | /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| [23:19:14] | pushpop-: | is that it? |
| [23:19:14] | ** GreyFoxx hates distro/software packages :) ** | |
| [23:19:16] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [23:19:19] | GreyFoxx: | "mysql.txt" |
| [23:20:02] | pushpop-: | GreyFoxx: http://pastebin.ca/163846 |
| [23:20:27] | GreyFoxx: | locate only reads from a databaseof files which is likely updated once a day |
| [23:20:33] | GreyFoxx: | so it wont find newly added files |
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| [23:21:01] | pushpop-: | o |
| [23:21:02] | pushpop-: | haha |
| [23:21:09] | GreyFoxx: | find /etc -name mysql.txt |
| [23:21:14] | GreyFoxx: | or find /usr -name mysql.txt |
| [23:21:27] | pushpop-: | found it |
| [23:21:29] | pushpop-: | =P |
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| [23:29:07] | Juski: | this is gonna be interesting... complete mythtv on an s100... |
| [23:29:11] | Juski: | here goes nothing |
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| [23:33:07] | Anduin: | Juski: Is that brave, foolish, or some other combo? |
| [23:33:09] | pushpop: | GreyFoxx: Do you have to enable mysql to allow outside connections? |
| [23:33:46] | Juski: | Anduin: all of the above, mostly foolish maybe |
| [23:33:55] | Juski: | pushpop-: yes I told you as much earlier |
| [23:34:08] | pushpop: | Sorry, how do you enable that? |
| [23:34:24] | bocaJ: | does anyone have experience setting up a pchdtv-5500 for cable HDTV? |
| [23:35:55] | Anduin: | pushpop: check your MySQL config file for specific bindings or network disabled (a quick Google usually tells you) |
| [23:36:33] | pushpop: | ok |
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| [23:38:29] | Juski: | fuck! |
| [23:38:36] | ** dansmith gasps ** | |
| [23:38:38] | monkeyBox: | Help! I just upgraded my kernel & ivtv, and when I try to watch livetv I get this error in mythbackend: VIDIOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument. and in frontend: StartRecorder() — timed out waiting for recorder to start. Has anyone seen this before? I've looked around the mailing list but can't find any solution. |
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| [23:40:26] | ** Juski is shocked. just found something in a ready rolled distro that shouldn't be there. now it's obvious why you have to ask for a password to download it ** | |
| [23:41:11] | Speedy2: | juski: drumroll...? |
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| [23:42:15] | Juski: | I'm not saying what it is.. just seriously fucking naughty. I don't want that muck on my system so I may have to rebuild mythtv myself |
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| [23:42:28] | bocaJ: | Juski – does it have to do with one of those words we can't mention on this channel? |
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| [23:43:21] | FairWtns: | Hello all. |
| [23:43:26] | bocaJ: | hello |
| [23:43:42] | FairWtns: | Been awhile since I've been in the chat, but I've got a quick Q. |
| [23:44:13] | Juski: | like I said I'm not gonna say. it's gonna have to go |
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| [23:47:19] | FairWtns: | I'm still using gentoo on my most grandfathered of mythtv boxes. I currently have a version of mythtv numbered 0.19_p10505 (which is listed as unstable according to gentoo), but the latest available is 0.19_p9163-r1 (which is listed as stable). Which is the latest version? |
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| [23:48:41] | FairWtns: | mythbackend --version yields : 0.19.20060121–2 which further confuses me. |
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| [23:49:22] | Anduin: | FairWtns: The number after the p in a SVN revision, normal > should be fine for comparing |
| [23:51:55] | FairWtns: | So then I am reading it backwards. Version 0.19_p10505 is latest, as 10505 > 9163? |
| [23:52:24] | Juski: | wow.. with an empty db (well almost empty db), the full shebang is weighing in with 19MB RAM free still. I'm gonna need swap |
| [23:53:25] | Anduin: | FairWtns: Yes |
| [23:53:49] | FairWtns: | Awesome. Thanks Anduin...I've got one more..but this one is a bit tougher... |
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| [23:54:32] | hobophobe: | offhand anyone know how to get the ivtv firmware going with debian? |
| [23:55:44] | FairWtns: | This has nagged me for months, and I've found no suitable way to fix it. On playback only, I get a "flicker" of horizontally shifted lines, even while paused. I.e. when paused, I can see lines shifted, and they continously move (say first lines 34 & 43 and then frames later lines 39 & 152, causing the lines to "dance"). Any idea what area of the system to inspect to track this down? Or where to start searching for help? |
| [23:56:14] | Juski: | FairWtns: you need to deinterlace fella |
| [23:56:31] | Juski: | utils / setup > setup > tv > playback |
| [23:56:35] | Anduin: | FairWtns: while paused makes it a mystery |
| [23:56:38] | FairWtns: | But they are shifted horizontally, I.e. to the left. |
| [23:56:48] | Juski: | Anduin: no mystery at all |
| [23:56:53] | Juski: | needs to deinterlace |
| [23:56:58] | FairWtns: | I believe I've tried all combinations of interlacers. |
| [23:57:04] | Anduin: | Juski: I'd agree it it was during playback |
| [23:57:09] | FairWtns: | I'll try it now just to be certain, as I believe I last turned it off. |
| [23:57:49] | Juski: | oh hang on.. while it's paused they still move? |
| [23:58:23] | Juski: | if you have a nvidia card, turn up the flicker filter a notch & you'll never need to deinterlace again :) |
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| [23:58:53] | FairWtns: | Juski: Yes, paused stll causes lines. |
| [23:59:09] | Juski: | right but they stay stationary when you pause, right? |
| [23:59:22] | FairWtns: | I've turned on Bob deinterlacing, and that now causes screen *jumping* i.e. up/down. |
| [23:59:25] | Juski: | what res. are you capturing at? |
| [23:59:29] | schtinky: | I have lame installed (via RPM) yet keep getting the following error when trying to configure mythtv 0.19 "You must have the Lame MP3 encoding library installed to compile Myth." I tried to compile the lame sources, but that was a no-go, too. Any ideas? |
| [23:59:34] | FairWtns: | Juski: Nope, the lines continually jump while paused. |
| [23:59:43] | Juski: | FairWtns: video driver problem then |
| [23:59:46] | dansmith: | schtinky: lame-devel? |
| [23:59:52] | schtinky: | dansmith: got it |
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