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| [00:05:22] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer: yes |
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| [00:05:33] | SlicerDicer-: | alright Cardoe |
| [00:05:53] | SlicerDicer-: | I am still trying to figure out how to make that snapshot :) |
| [00:05:55] | Ghengis: | Who wants to help me with a really interesting problem? |
| [00:06:01] | Cardoe: | I'll fo it in a bit |
| [00:06:55] | Anduin: | Ghengis: A new eurasia? |
| [00:08:44] | Ghengis: | Heh, nope. My recording schedules say "(Recording 0 of 0)" in set priorities, and never generate a match |
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| [00:09:06] | Ghengis: | It's happened before — I can make new schedules, and they work for a while, then crap out |
| [00:09:56] | Ghengis: | If I knew which SQL table held recording schedules, I could see what changed, but I can't find that information anywhere. |
| [00:10:05] | Anduin: | Ghengis: So you are seeing recording rules disappear? |
| [00:10:17] | Anduin: | Ghengis: record |
| [00:10:46] | Anduin: | (is the table) |
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| [00:11:25] | Ghengis: | Durr, probably should have been able to guess that. No, the schedules are still there, they just stop *doing* anything |
| [00:11:43] | Ghengis: | E.G., I have a schedule for "Mystery!", which is on tonight, but it's not listed under Upcoming Recordings. |
| [00:12:07] | Ghengis: | When I make a *new* schedule by searching for the show, clicking it, and setting it to "Any time, any channel", it appears under Upcoming Recordings |
| [00:12:19] | Ghengis: | It's a pain to do this for all my shows, every couple of weeks, though |
| [00:12:47] | Anduin: | Ghengis: Hmm, you are probably seeing the scheduler query problem, you are running 0.19 (not 0.19-fixes)? |
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| [00:13:39] | Ghengis: | Probably. I upgraded a while back and am unsure how to check my myth version |
| [00:13:57] | Anduin: | Ghengis: mythfrontend --version |
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| [00:16:11] | Ghengis: | 19.20060121 |
| [00:16:17] | Ghengis: | -2 |
| [00:16:32] | Ghengis: | Source version 9146M |
| [00:16:33] | Anduin: | Ghengis: The backend logs would contain something about the DB going away, basically 0.19 (not -fixes) and MySQL 5 don't mix. |
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| [00:17:28] | Ghengis: | Is there any easy way to upgrade my (knoppmyth) .19-not-fixes box to .19-fixes? |
| [00:18:10] | Anduin: | Ghengis: I know nothing of knoppmyth, it isn't hard elsewhere though. |
| [00:18:30] | Ghengis: | Can I apt it? |
| [00:18:44] | Ghengis: | (I knew I should have been suspicious when my mysql.log file grew to 1.5GB ;-) |
| [00:18:50] | Anduin: | Ghengis: No clue, I'd check your backend logs before upgrading though. |
| [00:18:55] | SlicerDicer-: | lol holy shit Ghengis |
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| [00:19:36] | Anduin: | Ghengis: It is also possible you have a corrupt table (though I think knoppmyth runs the optimize/fix thing automatically) |
| [00:20:37] | Ghengis: | OK, so can somebody point me at instructions for either fixing a corrupt table or upgrading to .19-fixes? |
| [00:21:22] | Anduin: | Ghengis: check you backend log first |
| [00:21:28] | Ghengis: | Anduin: when you say check my backend logs, what am I looking for? |
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| [00:22:04] | Ghengis: | There's a few instances grep found of "Unable to execute query", but my linux-fu is weak and flabby, so I'm not sure how to get the surrounding lines. |
| [00:22:59] | Anduin: | Ghengis: Yeah, that probably isn't good, see if the reason was because the server went away (or just put a chunk around there up on some paste site) |
| [00:24:11] | Ghengis: | DB Error was: (bunch of crap)...table mythconverg.jobqueue doesn't exist |
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| [00:25:55] | Ghengis: | But it was a long time ago, and clearly the table must exist by now because I get commercial-flagged stuff... |
| [00:26:54] | Ghengis: | Could it be related that sometimes it records shows I never set up a schedule for, but are on right before or after something I do want? |
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| [00:28:42] | Anduin: | Ghengis: Sounds like a time problem |
| [00:29:10] | Ghengis: | Like what do you mean? |
| [00:29:24] | Anduin: | Ghengis: run 'data' and see if your timezone is right. |
| [00:29:26] | Ghengis: | date returns: Thu Aug 31 20:28:58 EDT 2006 |
| [00:29:41] | Ghengis: | I live in Maryland, so that should be accurate. |
| [00:30:04] | Anduin: | Yeah, that should be fine. |
| [00:30:05] | Ghengis: | I use ntpd to keep it perfect |
| [00:30:40] | Ghengis: | (or the poor man's perfect, anyway ;-) |
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| [00:31:07] | Ghengis: | I did have a problem on my Xbox, but I caught it when it told me that I had schedule data for 802 days =-) |
| [00:31:31] | Ghengis: | (Obviously, a date problem, not a timezone problem) |
| [00:33:38] | Anduin: | Ghengis: try a mythbackend --resched wait.... mythbackend --printsched |
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| [00:35:05] | Ghengis: | HOLY HOT DAMN, that fixed it! |
| [00:35:09] | Ghengis: | What did I just do??? |
| [00:35:27] | Ghengis: | And far, far more importantly — where did you learn about that? |
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| [00:38:32] | Anduin: | Ghengis: It didn't fix anything, just told the scheduler to try again |
| [00:39:28] | Ghengis: | Listen, I have to go help my wife with dinner, but THANK YOU, and if you can post any pointers on where to find info like that, I'd *really* appreciate it — I'll come and check back in a while. |
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| [00:41:51] | tyler-wylie: | Hallo |
| [00:43:16] | Anduin: | Ghengis: The way to find such things is to ignore your wife and devote your time to reading myth mailing lists. The version you posted seems to be something other than 0.19 as released but also not 0.19-fixes as it stands, I didn't bother to check if the MySQL stuff was in before that rev. |
| [00:44:49] | tyler-wylie: | I'm having issues with retrieving a listing, I have a zap2it account and I have my information entered correctly |
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| [00:45:15] | Anduin: | Ghengis: 9146 was about six months ago, so talk to someone who uses knoppmyth about upgrading |
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| [00:48:35] | tyler-wylie: | anyone here able to help me with my issue? |
| [00:48:54] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: You are going to need to actually share the issue |
| [00:49:32] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, on the channel editor when I run a channel scan it fails to "open my card" |
| [00:49:50] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, when I'm trying to input video sources it says it can't authorize me, even though the information I entered is correct |
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| [00:50:13] | gnuyen: | hi guys, I have 1 minute padding |
| [00:50:14] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: which card? |
| [00:50:21] | gnuyen: | set on both ends of my recordings |
| [00:50:27] | gnuyen: | but when two shows are back to back it doesn't do it |
| [00:50:28] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, hauppauge pvr 150mce |
| [00:50:38] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, ivtv-detect shows my card |
| [00:50:51] | gnuyen: | is there any way i can set mythtv to always use the padding as long as there is an additional available tuner? |
| [00:50:57] | gnuyen: | i have 3 pvr 250s |
| [00:51:02] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: Don't use the channel scan |
| [00:52:03] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, okay, so how can I get mythtv to download the video sources, I made an account at labs.zap2it.com, gold subscription and my info is all matched |
| [00:52:06] | tyler-wylie: | I still get 401 errors though |
| [00:52:57] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: You will always get one for each lineup, then a download. |
| [00:53:09] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, this is odd, when I try to log onto the website via Galeon and I enter my info and it doesn't work... |
| [00:53:27] | tyler-wylie: | 401 Unauthorized |
| [00:53:50] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: This is odd because it works where? |
| [00:54:24] | tyler-wylie: | I can log on the labs.zap2it.com webpage, modify my lineup and etc |
| [00:54:38] | tyler-wylie: | but I can't retrieve my listings via anything |
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| [00:55:07] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: run mythfilldatabase and put the output on a paste site |
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| [00:56:48] | madfactor: | ne1 now anything about xbox-mythtv frontends? |
| [00:57:34] | tyler-wylie: | http://pastebin.com/781035 |
| [00:59:10] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: and how many lineups? |
| [00:59:13] | tyler-wylie: | 1 |
| [01:00:41] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: And no silly thing like leading/trailing spaces? |
| [01:00:55] | tyler-wylie: | correct |
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| [01:03:58] | tyler-wylie: | i'm baffled |
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| [01:04:10] | tyler-wylie: | Should I try making another account? |
| [01:04:19] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: Don't know what to tell you, there are other apps on the zap2it pages that you may want to try but mythfilldatabase is just calling wget there (with your user/password and a soap request) |
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| [01:08:38] | DrMitch: | i have myth running in window mode. is there a way i can switch it to full screen with a shortcut key? |
| [01:09:21] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [01:09:35] | GreyFoxx: | no quick fullscreen, and no dynamic resizing |
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| [01:10:23] | Aid`: | hey — im doin a TwinView, is there anyway to get mythfrontend on the SECOND monitor(TV) ? |
| [01:11:06] | DrMitch: | yea |
| [01:11:22] | DrMitch: | settings, appearance |
| [01:11:29] | DrMitch: | xinerama screen |
| [01:11:31] | Aid`: | oh, in mythtv-setup? |
| [01:11:40] | DrMitch: | no, in mythtv |
| [01:11:42] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, got it working... just made a new user, and everything worked...sigh lol |
| [01:14:07] | Aid`: | hmm im not seing xinerama in mythfrontend appearance |
| [01:14:21] | DrMitch: | what version you have? |
| [01:14:27] | Aid`: | .19 |
| [01:14:28] | DrMitch: | and was it compiled with xinerama ? |
| [01:14:46] | GreyFoxx: | Are you cloning the display or using them as one big scree n? |
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| [01:15:15] | Aid`: | GreyFoxx: im trying to have my desktop showing up on my monitor and then mythfrontend on the tv at the same time |
| [01:15:38] | GreyFoxx: | So, you are using them as one big screen ? |
| [01:15:44] | GreyFoxx: | and "half" ison theTV ? |
| [01:16:00] | Aid`: | yep |
| [01:16:09] | oish: | i think you would need two video cards to achieve this? |
| [01:16:32] | DrMitch: | no, i'm doing twinview and it appears on my second screen |
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| [01:16:39] | DrMitch: | and it's just one card |
| [01:16:45] | Aid`: | DrMitch: so i need to compile w/Xinerma? |
| [01:16:49] | oish: | oh ok. sorry |
| [01:16:54] | DrMitch: | that's what i'm thinking... |
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| [01:17:08] | DrMitch: | but check the ./configure for a "with-xinerama" or soemthing |
| [01:17:40] | Aid`: | okay DrMitch |
| [01:17:48] | Aid`: | nope i dont see it |
| [01:17:56] | Aid`: | i did ./configure | grep xinerama --- nothing |
| [01:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Aid`: You can just use a -geometry option when starting mythfrontend to start it on the other half |
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| [01:18:24] | Aid`: | GreyFoxx: okay |
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| [01:20:02] | fer2: | GreyFoxx: hi |
| [01:21:22] | agamotto: | Anyone care to help a very confused person figure out why watching television isn't working? |
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| [01:22:12] | Aid`: | GreyFoxx: it works sweetly |
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| [01:24:04] | fer2: | GreyFoxx: Still using msntv's as frontends for mythtv ? |
| [01:24:31] | agamotto: | Ok, that sounds interesting |
| [01:24:34] | Aid`: | GreyFoxx: i can only have 1024x768 maximum can't i? |
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| [01:25:14] | GreyFoxx: | fer2: Yup |
| [01:25:52] | GreyFoxx: | Aid`: I believe that is the limit the nvidia drivers put on what it will scale down to regular TV reslutions |
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| [01:26:47] | GreyFoxx: | Aid`: regardless of what resolution you use it's getting scaled down to closerto 544x480 before being sent to the tv |
| [01:27:16] | Aid`: | how do i do screen 0 |
| [01:27:18] | Aid`: | erm 1 |
| [01:27:23] | fer2: | GreyFoxx: Would you recomentd those? |
| [01:27:38] | agamotto: | exit |
| [01:27:39] | agamotto: | exit |
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| [01:27:56] | Aid`: | i thought i had it with mythfrontend -geometry 640x480+444+0 but thast only move sit on 1 screen, screen 0 |
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| [01:29:07] | fer2: | GreyFoxx: and how about the european s100, did you try any? |
| [01:29:41] | GreyFoxx: | Nope, I don't have access to one |
| [01:30:35] | fer2: | GreyFoxx: they look very nice.. |
| [01:31:16] | GreyFoxx: | one nice thing is thatthey come with a TV encoder that is natively supported by the IEGD drivers |
| [01:31:57] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, Testing it out now, thanks for trying to help at least hehe..:D |
| [01:35:36] | Aid`: | GreyFoxx: there isn't an option to select screen 2 on --geometry is there?? |
| [01:35:46] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [01:35:50] | GreyFoxx: | Which is why I asked |
| [01:36:06] | GreyFoxx: | if you have it configured as one big screen you canjust use an offset |
| [01:36:10] | GreyFoxx: | IF it's two screen |
| [01:36:19] | GreyFoxx: | you can try changing the DISPLAY variable |
| [01:36:25] | GreyFoxx: | DISPLAY=0.1 |
| [01:36:30] | GreyFoxx: | or DISPLAY=:1 |
| [01:36:38] | GreyFoxx: | depending on how you have it configured |
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| [01:41:11] | fysa: | setting display works fine |
| [01:42:55] | fysa: | I use: --override-setting TVVidModeForceAspect=1.78 --override-setting AspectOverride=1.78 and --override-setting TVVidModeForceAspect=1.33 --override-setting AspectOverride=1.33 as mythfrontend args in my switchdisplay script also as it doesn't seem to detect properly |
| [01:43:00] | fysa: | (when switching between screens) |
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| [01:45:29] | lupin_sanse1: | Hey an Australian's online? |
| [01:45:55] | Aid`: | GreyFoxx: thats fine and dandy but when i go to play livetv or a recording it comes back to the monitor and the tv goes back to the desktop |
| [01:49:05] | ethernalq: | any word on when 0.20 will be released? |
| [01:49:18] | Anduin: | ethernalq: soon, ish |
| [01:49:55] | ethernalq: | well the last release was 6 months ago... seems kinda long for a .01 release, no? |
| [01:50:03] | lupin_sanse1: | No Aussies what is this? |
| [01:51:26] | Anduin: | lupin_sanse1: There are, they may just not be reading the channel right now. |
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| [02:16:32] | lupin_sanse1: | I was asking about the DVB EPG last night, and I understand that by default myth "walks" each channel every 5 minutes collecting the data from each channel. Does it take 5 minutes to run through all the channels, or does it spend 5 minutes "sitting" on each channel? |
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| [02:18:16] | Agrajag-: | lupin_sanse1: our dvb epg is a joke, don't use it |
| [02:18:23] | Agrajag-: | (but our i mean .au) |
| [02:18:49] | lupin_sanse1: | It seems to work okay for say "tape all simpsons" that's all I really want |
| [02:19:06] | Agrajag-: | why not just use a proper guide grabber |
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| [02:19:36] | lupin_sanse1: | Does it work okay? |
| [02:19:41] | lupin_sanse1: | the internet one I mean |
| [02:19:58] | Agrajag-: | yeah, the oztivo one is good |
| [02:20:46] | lupin_sanse1: | Just out of interest though, does the DVB one take 5 minutes to cycle through all channels, or sit on each one for 5 minutes? |
| [02:20:51] | Agrajag-: | n oidea |
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| [02:24:37] | adante: | hrm wasn't a big fan of the oztivo data |
| [02:24:42] | adante: | is that what you use Agrajag-? |
| [02:24:51] | lupin_sanse1: | I set up KnoppMyth and it came with a tv grabber, is that different from the oztivo one? |
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| [02:24:57] | adante: | not that we have much choice now that yourtv died dead |
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| [02:26:24] | Agrajag-: | adante: yeah i do now, i didn't used to be a fan either |
| [02:26:38] | Agrajag-: | but it works fine for me these days (since the ninemsn one died) |
| [02:26:54] | adante: | when i used it, it worked but lot of niggly annoying things |
| [02:27:39] | adante: | for instance once a lot of shows that started at 11:30pm or so and ran till 1am the next day instead were coded as ending at midnight |
| [02:27:51] | lupin_sanse1: | yeah ebroadcast does that |
| [02:27:56] | lupin_sanse1: | (and palm pda!) |
| [02:28:21] | adante: | couple of times they've been off about the show – most notable was when i recorded a Romeo + Juliet (dicaprio/baz luhrmann version) |
| [02:28:35] | adante: | and it turned out to be a silent ballet in 3 parts! |
| [02:29:56] | adante: | probably most irritating is the generic descriptors for the episodes – e.g. simpsons episode is described as "join the crazy simpsons family haha" or something |
| [02:29:58] | lupin_sanse1: | great |
| [02:31:09] | lupin_sanse1: | the DVB EPG one seems to work well for me in triggering programs to record based on keywords, and it properly names them, and adds the description and so on, it's just a shame that it's only 2 programmes ahead and that Channel 9 doesn't transmit one |
| [02:32:08] | adante: | only in australia would they be so anally retentive about guide data |
| [02:32:17] | lupin_sanse1: | yeah I wonder why? |
| [02:32:35] | adante: | cos we're a stupid isolated island with no sense of perspective |
| [02:32:40] | adante: | (my take in a nutshell) |
| [02:33:07] | lupin_sanse1: | that or lack of competition, because one doesn't do it they all don't |
| [02:33:20] | lupin_sanse1: | You'd think that SBS or ABC wouldn't be constained by that |
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| [02:34:20] | adante: | that and the ever increasing insanity of advertising |
| [02:34:39] | adante: | i was transcoding a copy of getaway for my friend the other day – went to cut out ads |
| [02:34:55] | adante: | there was one every 10 minutes pretty much to the dot |
| [02:35:00] | lupin_sanse1: | yeah amazing |
| [02:35:06] | lupin_sanse1: | you should see the US! |
| [02:35:21] | adante: | it's worse there eh? |
| [02:36:48] | Agrajag-: | i think the worst thing about our programming is how they put each show a few minutes off the real start/end time |
| [02:36:53] | Agrajag-: | that really pisses me off |
| [02:37:51] | adante: | you think that's intentional? |
| [02:38:07] | adante: | when big brother/idol is on... not just a few heh |
| [02:39:34] | Agrajag-: | of course it's intentional |
| [02:39:45] | Agrajag-: | they do it to try to steal ratings |
| [02:40:00] | Agrajag-: | it's done for pretty much every show! |
| [02:40:11] | Agrajag-: | so i always start early/finish late |
| [02:40:13] | lupin_sanse1: | yeah annoying |
| [02:40:29] | adante: | right |
| [02:41:15] | lupin_sanse1: | Penn and Teller was on 1 hour late a few weeks ago |
| [02:41:17] | adante: | well i wasn't sure if it was intentional cheap practice or just another example of regular day-to-day incompetence.. figured it could go either way really :] |
| [02:41:30] | lupin_sanse1: | ABC run early though by one minute sometimes |
| [02:41:46] | Agrajag-: | nah it's intentional – if the show you're watching goes late, then you're less likely to switch to another channel and watch something that has already started |
| [02:42:26] | adante: | tricky |
| [02:42:55] | lupin_sanse1: | it seems to be worse after those "live" shows with nomination/voting |
| [02:43:40] | Agrajag-: | yeah, because they try to get the ratings of them higher – if you're watching the show after, you're forced to watch the end of that show |
| [02:44:06] | adante: | well don't worry folks when i become ruler of earth these actions will become capital crimes |
| [02:44:20] | lupin_sanse1: | You can add a buffer at the end of the custom schedule, did you notice? |
| [02:44:30] | lupin_sanse1: | like add 30 minutes to the end |
| [02:44:46] | adante: | 30 minutes bit massive |
| [02:45:05] | lupin_sanse1: | oh 15 or whatever |
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| [02:45:55] | adante: | meanwhile my current epg information appears to be poisoned |
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| [02:46:15] | adante: | National Nine News : Elmo's World |
| [02:46:44] | adante: | Weatherwatch : Teletubbies Cats Night Out |
| [02:46:49] | adante: | mm |
| [02:46:56] | lupin_sanse1: | funny |
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| [02:54:46] | moxjake: | I just got my box setup to use both tuners of my pvr-500, and the audio on the second tuner is fubar, any ideas? |
| [02:56:57] | moxjake: | The audio thing isn't a mythtv problem per se, because it occurs if I watch that tuner in mplayer too. |
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| [03:09:51] | Netslayer: | i've been trying for 3 days to get a signal out of my hd3000 with no luck even though i know the antenna is receiving a signal (90% external tuner test). |
| [03:10:23] | Netslayer: | i have tried 2.6.16, 2.6.17, firmware loads fine, dtvsignal -d 0 2.1 gives no signal |
| [03:10:41] | Netslayer: | does anyone have any ideas? |
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| [03:45:46] | flaggelator: | is it possible to use a Dragoncam in conjunction with a DVB-S card with CI to decrypt NDS? with my own legitamate card of course |
| [03:45:47] | flaggelator: | ? |
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| [03:54:51] | flaggelator: | no? |
| [03:54:53] | flaggelator: | goodnite |
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| [04:01:22] | Matrix9: | Before i try installing Mythtv is there any util I can use to test to see if my pvr-250 is working properly? Like is their a standalone tuner software for linux? |
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| [04:25:22] | adante: | Matrix9: might be able to use tuning utils and mplayer to test it |
| [04:25:36] | adante: | i couldn't tell you specifics though i'm dvb |
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| [04:35:21] | CCFL_Man: | GreyFoxx: you here? |
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| [05:05:50] | cleit0n: | hi anyone help me with lirc? i up modules and i configure.. but when run mode2 error: mode2: error opening /dev/lircd |
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| [05:09:54] | tyler-wylie: | It was so awesome, I installed mythtv and was recording tv |
| [05:10:01] | tyler-wylie: | then I tried to configure it to my liking |
| [05:10:03] | tyler-wylie: | and like |
| [05:10:05] | tyler-wylie: | I got confused |
| [05:10:09] | tyler-wylie: | too many options!!!!!! |
| [05:14:52] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: In a few years you'll almost know where they all are. |
| [05:14:59] | Anduin: | cleit0n: start lircd |
| [05:15:30] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, haha, got a few to help me get it set up to the basics? |
| [05:16:11] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: The basics are the default |
| [05:16:22] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, hmm...it won't let me watch tv though, the screen goes blank |
| [05:16:33] | cleit0n: | Anduin: i start |
| [05:16:49] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: Look at the backend logs |
| [05:18:02] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, does it have somthing to do with me not being able to use a radeon in VIDEO_CARDS for mythtv installation? |
| [05:18:57] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: huh? |
| [05:19:24] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, the only VIDEO_CARD flags I see when I install mythtv(via gentoo's "emerge" are via, nvidia, and i810" |
| [05:19:49] | Matrix9: | adante, thanks, managed to test it out, it works, now mythtv – yikes :) |
| [05:19:58] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: for capture? |
| [05:20:04] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, no, for display |
| [05:20:17] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, Do I need to have an S-video out to watch TV? |
| [05:22:26] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: You'll need some way to connect it to the TV, if no tV |
| [05:22:31] | Anduin: | then the monitor is fine. |
| [05:22:38] | tyler-wylie: | alright |
| [05:22:50] | tyler-wylie: | finished installing the latest mythtv, lets give this another whirl |
| [05:23:42] | adante: | Matrix9: good luck! :] |
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| [05:36:16] | cleit0n: | Anduin: FATAL: Module lirc_gpio not found. |
| [05:36:31] | cleit0n: | Anduin: only load lirc_dev |
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| [05:43:42] | Anduin: | cleit0n: Yeah, that would be bad if that is the driver you were using. |
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| [05:46:44] | tyler-wylie: | great now myth won't even start up :( |
| [05:47:44] | tyler-wylie: | bout to just try it with Ubuntu |
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| [06:40:39] | d3ity: | hey can someone help me out with ivtv? |
| [06:42:38] | Anduin: | d3ity: They have their own channel (not sure how active these days), but people often ask here, so... |
| [06:43:20] | d3ity: | hrumph |
| [06:43:30] | d3ity: | Anduin, i'm gonna try a reboot and see if that resolves it |
| [06:43:34] | d3ity: | if not, i'll be back and begging |
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| [06:48:24] | d3ity: | hey does ivtv require i2c support in kernel? |
| [06:48:30] | Anduin: | d3ity: Yes |
| [06:48:39] | d3ity: | Anduin, good to know, that could fix my problem |
| [06:48:47] | Anduin: | d3ity: and a number of other kernel modules |
| [06:48:55] | Hoxzer: | Sheee is juuuciiiuc juiiceee juiiiceee Luise luise luise |
| [06:49:25] | d3ity: | Anduin, anything exotic that I wouldn't have (basically anything except i2c and v4l) |
| [06:49:45] | ** d3ity is having to deal with a new motherboard, cpu, and architecture ** | |
| [06:50:25] | Anduin: | d3ity: Yes, saa, msp3400, tdablah and a few others, depending on which card |
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| [06:50:54] | d3ity: | Anduin, pvr150 |
| [06:51:13] | ** d3ity threw in all the v4l modules ** | |
| [06:52:42] | Anduin: | d3ity: Yeah, I think they are all in that section, the cx one is still in experimental or some other category that isn't as obvious. |
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| [06:56:22] | Anduin: | d3ity: http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto most of the way down on that page you'll see the modules (in the Load the modules step_ |
| [06:56:34] | Netslayer: | anyone know a dvb tool to check signal in dapper? i'm on the livecd and can't built the dvb tools provided by pchdt |
| [06:58:02] | Agrajag-: | you can't install the dvb-utils package or something? |
| [06:59:11] | d3ity: | Anduin, thanks |
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| [07:01:10] | ArcAiN6: | has anyone had any success with MythTV and the TV@nywhere master cards? |
| [07:01:57] | Netslayer: | Agrajag-, "sudo apt-get install dvb-tools" Couldnt find package dvb-tools |
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| [07:03:01] | Agrajag-: | Netslayer: dvb-utils not dvb-tools |
| [07:03:26] | Netslayer: | still can't find it Agrajag- |
| [07:03:36] | Netslayer: | do i have to enable other sources? |
| [07:04:14] | Agrajag-: | don't think so.. i dont know how the livecd works though |
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| [07:04:36] | ArcAiN6: | what distro you need that for? |
| [07:04:36] | Agrajag-: | pretty sure you should get it if you have universe |
| [07:05:39] | ArcAiN6: | Netslayer, what distro you need that package for? |
| [07:05:47] | Agrajag-: | ubuntu |
| [07:06:36] | ArcAiN6: | http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/misc/dvb-utils |
| [07:07:02] | ArcAiN6: | Netslayer, that link has downloads at the bottom |
| [07:07:25] | Netslayer: | i managed to compile dtvsignal after installing glibc |
| [07:07:34] | Netslayer: | now to see if this second computer will work with my 3000 card |
| [07:08:02] | ArcAiN6: | heh.. i think i'm going to pull my card out and take it intot he street and shoot it |
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| [07:09:20] | ArcAiN6: | anyone know how i go about installing drivers for the TV@nywhere master card? (cx88) |
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| [07:14:22] | Netslayer: | where is the hotplug folder for ubuntu for the pchdtv firmware |
| [07:14:30] | Netslayer: | it's not in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware |
| [07:15:05] | d3ity: | Netslayer, look for a firmware.agent file, it'll tell you at the line that says "FIRMWARE_DIR" |
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| [07:19:46] | Anduin: | It is probably /lib/firmware |
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| [07:22:55] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, what distro do you use? |
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| [07:53:13] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: I don't like to talk about my faith. |
| [07:53:55] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, I hope it works now, attempting to record South Park in 6 minutes |
| [07:54:02] | tyler-wylie: | Set it to record |
| [07:54:03] | Anduin: | The distro is seldom the problem, myth and related things work on many |
| [07:54:06] | tyler-wylie: | and then transcode |
| [07:54:25] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, i'll see how it goes now |
| [07:55:12] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: Yeah, MySQL problems are very common, resolvable, but common. |
| [07:55:28] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, and MySQL is pretty much required isn't it? |
| [07:56:11] | tyler-wylie: | I can't just set it up without a database |
| [07:56:44] | tyler-wylie: | It would be sweet if I could just have it encode TV to a file named by date and channel or something |
| [07:58:05] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: Yeah, all the settings are stored there, very shared between the frontend/backend, not getting around it. |
| [08:04:46] | Netslayer: | is it possible that my hd3000 card is fried if it can receive signal on channels higher than 30 but none less? |
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| [08:09:18] | tyler-wylie: | I have turned on Recording but I get this on Tuner Status: Tuner 1 is not recording |
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| [08:18:04] | tyler-wylie: | Hmm |
| [08:18:07] | tyler-wylie: | I have it set to record |
| [08:18:09] | tyler-wylie: | but the tuner isn't recording |
| [08:18:16] | tyler-wylie: | and when I try to open my card in mythtv-setup |
| [08:18:18] | tyler-wylie: | it says it can't open it |
| [08:18:24] | tyler-wylie: | and then I remembered one crucial thing |
| [08:18:27] | tyler-wylie: | "modprobe ivtv" |
| [08:18:43] | d3ity: | w00t. mythtv is beginning its joy |
| [08:18:44] | Anduin: | It is always that one last thing |
| [08:19:42] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, if this works I owe it all to you saying nothing |
| [08:19:53] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, Otherwise I'm throwing in Ubuntu |
| [08:19:58] | tyler-wylie: | and letting it do it's magic |
| [08:20:33] | Anduin: | I'm always glad not to help. |
| [08:21:08] | tyler-wylie: | it says in the topic |
| [08:21:14] | tyler-wylie: | Engage brain before asking question |
| [08:21:34] | tyler-wylie: | the thing is |
| [08:21:38] | tyler-wylie: | it won't let me watch tv |
| [08:21:39] | tyler-wylie: | :( |
| [08:21:56] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: Can you record? |
| [08:22:00] | tyler-wylie: | NVP::OpenFile(): Error, couldn't read file |
| [08:22:04] | tyler-wylie: | I see a file called |
| [08:22:15] | tyler-wylie: | 101_200609041900.nuv |
| [08:22:23] | tyler-wylie: | er 1010* |
| [08:22:45] | tyler-wylie: | and it's only 1.1kb |
| [08:22:45] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: Which card type? |
| [08:22:51] | tyler-wylie: | hauppauge pvr 150 |
| [08:23:16] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: 0.19? |
| [08:23:42] | tyler-wylie: | yea |
| [08:23:57] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: What card type did you select in mythtv-setup? |
| [08:24:20] | tyler-wylie: | um |
| [08:24:32] | tyler-wylie: | one second let me find out |
| [08:26:00] | tyler-wylie: | MJPEG capture card |
| [08:26:08] | tyler-wylie: | (Matrox G200, DC10) |
| [08:26:19] | tyler-wylie: | hmm |
| [08:26:22] | tyler-wylie: | should I use mpeg-2 |
| [08:26:25] | tyler-wylie: | encoder card |
| [08:26:30] | tyler-wylie: | that sounds too good to be true |
| [08:26:33] | Anduin: | tyler-wylie: No disconnect there? (Yes) |
| [08:27:34] | tyler-wylie: | Omg it works |
| [08:28:31] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin... |
| [08:28:34] | tyler-wylie: | are you there? |
| [08:29:21] | Anduin: | Sorta, glad to hear it. |
| [08:29:30] | tyler-wylie: | I LOVE YOU |
| [08:29:34] | tyler-wylie: | All of a sudden |
| [08:29:36] | tyler-wylie: | It just works |
| [08:29:38] | tyler-wylie: | my headache |
| [08:29:40] | tyler-wylie: | it's still there |
| [08:29:42] | tyler-wylie: | but it wont be in a little bit |
| [08:32:43] | tyler-wylie: | Anduin, It should be recording South Park...but I'm recording an infomercial |
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| [08:37:26] | d3ity: | /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-slackware-linux/3.4.4/../../../../x86_64-slackware-linux/bin /ld: can |
| [08:37:26] | d3ity: | not find -lqt-mt |
| [08:37:33] | d3ity: | can someone make any sense of that for me? |
| [08:40:35] | aevil: | yeah, it did not find the libqt-mt, multithread library or something |
| [08:40:55] | aevil: | if its installed, add the $QTDIR to your path |
| [08:41:28] | aevil: | or add the directory to /etc/ld.so.conf, i am using slack too, but cannot remember exactly what i had to do |
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| [08:42:00] | d3ity: | aevil, fixed it, source /etc/profile fixed it quickly |
| [08:43:13] | tyler-wylie: | Hmm |
| [08:43:19] | tyler-wylie: | my listings isn't synced or something |
| [08:43:25] | tyler-wylie: | Mind of Mencia = girls gone wild |
| [08:43:30] | tyler-wylie: | King of the Hill = cops |
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| [08:47:53] | d3ity: | tyler-wylie, that or your system clock is off |
| [08:48:24] | d3ity: | tyler-wylie, try ntpdate, then try mythfilldb |
| [08:48:27] | tyler-wylie: | d3ity, yea, my system clock is off by 4 hours |
| [08:48:43] | d3ity: | tyler-wylie, that would explain the discrepancy |
| [08:48:51] | d3ity: | ntpdate time.nist.gov should get you going |
| [08:48:53] | tyler-wylie: | d3ity, how would I change my system clock bck then ahh |
| [08:49:03] | d3ity: | tyler-wylie, ntpdate time.nist.gov |
| [08:49:04] | tyler-wylie: | I don't have ntpdate installed one sec |
| [08:49:20] | d3ity: | tyler-wylie, installing ntp and setting it up properly would be your best solution |
| [08:49:33] | d3ity: | that way your clock will always be up to date |
| [08:49:55] | tyler-wylie: | meh set a cron job 2 times a week seem like a good idea? |
| [08:50:10] | d3ity: | for some reason, ever since the kernel gods have decreed that timer frequencies should be adjustable in kernel easily, my system clocks can't seem to keep time worth half a damn |
| [08:50:19] | d3ity: | tyler-wylie, personally I do it every 6 hours |
| [08:50:30] | d3ity: | then again, my clock is horridly off |
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| [09:04:25] | d3ity: | ../../libs/libmyth/libmyth-0.19.so: undefined reference to `ScreenSaverX11::ScreenSaverX11()' |
| [09:04:28] | d3ity: | sigh |
| [09:04:34] | d3ity: | what, possibly, could I use to fix this. |
| [09:04:44] | d3ity: | do I need the x11 screensavers to compile mythtv? |
| [09:07:00] | Anduin: | d3ity: That is an internal dependency there, using_x11 should be including screensaver-x11 |
| [09:08:40] | d3ity: | Anduin, how might I fix it? |
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| [09:09:08] | Anduin: | d3ity: figure out why using_x11 isn't defined when libmyth is being built |
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| [09:09:25] | d3ity: | where would I even start on that? the configure? |
| [09:09:46] | d3ity: | hrm, interesting |
| [09:09:52] | Anduin: | d3ity: Yeah, check config.mak, CCCONFIG |
| [09:09:59] | Anduin: | -1C |
| [09:10:28] | d3ity: | # Video Output Support |
| [09:10:29] | d3ity: | x11 support no |
| [09:10:42] | d3ity: | I eve tried manually setting it, I don't know why it's not finding it |
| [09:11:19] | Anduin: | d3ity: Probably can't find your X libs/headers |
| [09:11:30] | d3ity: | Anduin, how do i beat it into submission? |
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| [09:12:41] | d3ity: | what directory should --x11-path= point to? |
| [09:13:04] | d3ity: | these are my choices in /usr/X11R6 |
| [09:13:05] | d3ity: | LessTif/ bin/ etc/ include/ lib/ lib64/ man/ share/ |
| [09:13:09] | Anduin: | d3ity: It is probably finding the right one, you probably don't have the X11 devel libs installed |
| [09:13:33] | Anduin: | (sorry just checked the actual check in configure) |
| [09:14:08] | d3ity: | Anduin, the devel headers are installed |
| [09:14:19] | Anduin: | d3ity: It is looking for libX11 |
| [09:14:47] | d3ity: | thats hiding in /usr/lib64 |
| [09:14:52] | d3ity: | but... passing that gave me nothing |
| [09:15:23] | Anduin: | d3ity: libX11.so is there? |
| [09:15:28] | d3ity: | aye, it is |
| [09:16:14] | d3ity: | should I symlink that somewhere? |
| [09:16:52] | Anduin: | That would probably be bad, but I don't 64 |
| [09:17:14] | d3ity: | ugh, what files could it be looking for? |
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| [09:18:31] | Anduin: | d3ity: the --x11-path option is only for includes, the lib patch to search is from hardcoded and from /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [09:19:31] | d3ity: | Anduin, what should I stuff in there? the path to libX11? |
| [09:20:20] | Anduin: | d3ity: It isn't in there somewhere already (maybe via an include)? |
| [09:20:28] | d3ity: | aye |
| [09:20:34] | d3ity: | it wanted /usr/X11R6/lib64 |
| [09:20:41] | d3ity: | stuff that in there, boom. |
| [09:21:29] | d3ity: | sweet. make clean and trying again |
| [09:22:15] | d3ity: | I wonder if I'll get anything out of 64 bit myth |
| [09:22:23] | Anduin: | d3ity: maybe --libdir-name |
| [09:23:18] | Anduin: | d3ity: so configure with --libdir-name=lib64 should find it (without mucking with the whole system) |
| [09:24:02] | d3ity: | hrm |
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| [09:24:18] | d3ity: | adding to ld.so.conf shouldn't muck too much up |
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| [09:41:39] | d3ity: | anyone wanna help me with mysqhell |
| [09:43:14] | d3ity: | for some reason the mc.sql file isn't filling the thing with tables |
| [09:43:30] | aevil: | no error messages? what does the mysql logfile say? |
| [09:50:44] | Juski: | mc.sql doesn't |
| [09:50:54] | Juski: | it creates the db & that's it |
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| [09:51:24] | Juski: | first time you run mythtv-setup it should fill out the db with blank tables IIRC |
| [09:56:46] | d3ity: | Juski, it explodes. |
| [09:57:09] | d3ity: | No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
| [09:57:09] | d3ity: | 2006-09–01 05:57:03.924 Unable to connect to database! |
| [09:57:12] | d3ity: | more and more |
| [09:57:14] | d3ity: | spams the message |
| [09:57:19] | Juski: | if you look in the mc.sql file there's nothing in there about creating tables |
| [09:57:31] | d3ity: | but why can't it connect to the database? |
| [09:57:37] | Juski: | explodes. GTFOH |
| [09:58:09] | Juski: | because its not ummm been configured properly or you don't have mysql support in your qt3 |
| [09:58:33] | d3ity: | ok, so how should I go about configuring it properly |
| [09:58:56] | Juski: | are you aware of the documentation which tells you how to configure it? |
| [10:00:25] | d3ity: | Juski, I have followed the mysql directions in the documentation about three times over, to the letter |
| [10:00:48] | d3ity: | if there is anything I'm missing that might not be in the docs... that would be what I'm looking for |
| [10:01:55] | Juski: | well do you have mysql support in your qt3 ? |
| [10:02:23] | d3ity: | Juski, depends, i'm asking the maintainer of the distro I'm using now |
| [10:02:45] | Juski: | eh? why? |
| [10:05:31] | d3ity: | because its installed via a package |
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| [10:05:35] | d3ity: | and yes, it does have sql support |
| [10:06:32] | Juski: | is it qt3 ? |
| [10:06:32] | aevilsk: | d3ity, i got disconnected after my last message |
| [10:07:00] | d3ity: | aevilsk, ... |
| [10:07:02] | aevilsk: | d3ity, if you are using slackware, make sure to use the latest qt package from -current |
| [10:07:30] | d3ity: | aevilsk, i'm using slamd64, should be the same package. |
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| [10:07:39] | d3ity: | Juski, it's qt3 |
| [10:08:07] | d3ity: | qt 3.3.5 is the version I am using |
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| [10:10:49] | skorpion: | Hi!, I have tried to find a way to play entire directories in mythvideo, but I dont seem to find a easy way for it? I might be able to do some commandline scripting, but first it would be godd to know if there is a way already? |
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| [10:14:38] | timbo_: | codsp |
| [10:16:24] | Juski: | skorpion: if the player you use supports playlists just make a flat file containing all the filenames, and have mythvideo 'play' the file |
| [10:17:34] | ** Juski repeats the idiom that mythtv isn't friendly towards serial file downloaders :-P ** | |
| [10:17:48] | Juski: | and rightly so |
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| [10:19:33] | ** d3ity just wants his mythtv to work ** | |
| [10:19:42] | d3ity: | are there any known issues with qt 3.3.5? |
| [10:20:25] | Juski: | nope |
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| [10:21:45] | Juski: | not AFAIK anyway |
| [10:23:02] | d3ity: | hrm |
| [10:23:04] | d3ity: | then what could be wrong |
| [10:23:09] | d3ity: | I've done the whole mc.sql thing |
| [10:23:29] | d3ity: | I've setup the database with the appropriate username and pass |
| [10:23:38] | d3ity: | I've placed that information into mythtv-setup |
| [10:23:39] | d3ity: | and it persists |
| [10:23:49] | Juski: | is mysql running? |
| [10:25:19] | d3ity: | Juski, yep |
| [10:26:13] | Juski: | can you log into it from a terminal prompt using the mythtv username & password? |
| [10:26:26] | Juski: | e.g. mysql -u mythtv -p |
| [10:26:39] | d3ity: | yes |
| [10:26:57] | Juski: | do you have a ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt file ? |
| [10:27:31] | Juski: | although that should be created when you run mythtv-setup IIRC |
| [10:28:30] | d3ity: | yes |
| [10:29:18] | Juski: | are the contents of the file correct? |
| [10:31:40] | d3ity: | yes. |
| [10:32:02] | Juski: | and you're running mythtv-setup as the same user that logging into mysql from the terminal works for? |
| [10:32:09] | d3ity: | yes |
| [10:33:09] | Juski: | hmmm. that's exhausted all your options then. It _should_ work if everything you said is true |
| [10:33:36] | d3ity: | yeah. I may have to reinstall QT |
| [10:33:46] | d3ity: | despite what fred87 says |
| [10:34:29] | Juski: | whoever that guy is... |
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| [10:35:08] | aevilsk: | may be an issue with that specific package. does mythtv load the db driver? |
| [10:35:38] | Juski: | it might've been built against a different version of qt |
| [10:35:48] | Juski: | that could break it I think |
| [10:36:57] | aevilsk: | qt-3.3.6-i486–3 works for slackware 10.2, dunno if its avaible for slamd64 |
| [10:44:24] | d3ity: | aevilsk, how about qt4? |
| [10:44:48] | aevilsk: | dunno...does myth work with qt4? |
| [10:44:53] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [10:45:02] | d3ity: | ugh, so 3.3.6 it is |
| [10:52:56] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: I think my themes are ready to be unleahed :) |
| [10:56:05] | Juski: | unleashed, even |
| [10:58:14] | Kelerion: | morning folks :) |
| [10:58:46] | GreyFoxx: | Cool..... is there more than one? For some reason I was thinking of only project grayhem :) |
| [10:59:02] | Merlin83b: | grayhem-wide |
| [10:59:57] | GreyFoxx: | duh |
| [10:59:59] | GreyFoxx: | right :) |
| [11:01:58] | Juski: | they're both at www.juski.co.uk/pg/tarballs |
| [11:02:05] | Juski: | morning Kelerion |
| [11:02:11] | Juski: | I'd better go buy some lunchies |
| [11:02:21] | GreyFoxx: | Cool :) |
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| [11:28:15] | Juski: | oh dear... "So things are going pretty well all things considered, and while no one's buying the astronaut story it's still better than admitting you're a furry toothed geek who spends half his day writing Perl scripts and the other half browsing porn..." |
| [11:28:39] | Juski: | how do they know what I did on my day off? ;-) |
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| [11:36:46] | null: | If I grabbed all 7 days with mythfilldatabase for the first time, does the grabber then run automatically each day? |
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| [11:38:12] | Juski: | if you specify that myth runs mythfilldatabase automatically, yes |
| [11:38:32] | Juski: | if not, you'd have to cron it |
| [11:39:31] | null: | well, my grabber must not run between 0 and 6 A.M, so I probably have to cron it, right? |
| [11:41:16] | Juski: | yup |
| [11:42:16] | Juski: | why not between 00:00 and 06:00 ? does the tv listings website 'close' for that time? I've never understood sites that close down overnight. |
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| [11:49:14] | null: | Juski: well, they're displaying only the programm for 00.00 to 6.00 at this time... strange.. |
| [11:49:28] | null: | Juski: but it's the only source where I can get the program for almost all my channels |
| [11:50:19] | null: | and it's slow like nothing else... needs 1 hour for one day... |
| [11:50:56] | Juski: | are you on dialup or something? that seems very slow to me |
| [11:51:05] | null: | I'm on 6000kbit/s cable ;-) |
| [11:51:33] | null: | but I think the program page is extremly slow |
| [11:51:45] | null: | or it is blocking to many requests or something... |
| [11:51:50] | Juski: | page scraping sucks doesn't it? |
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| [11:52:20] | null: | jup |
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| [11:53:57] | Juski: | what do you folks reckon is the most efficient file compression method? |
| [11:54:03] | Juski: | is it bz2 ? |
| [11:54:26] | null: | bz2 is more efficient than gzip, this is all I know. |
| [11:54:47] | Juski: | just I have a 1GB image of a USB stick I need to scrunch down |
| [11:54:58] | null: | is it 1 gb full of data? |
| [11:55:01] | Juski: | nope |
| [11:55:06] | Juski: | less than half that |
| [11:55:14] | null: | then mount the image, write it full with dd if=/dev/zero of=fillup |
| [11:55:25] | Kelerion: | bz2 is yes... I just use tar.gz out of habit.. and I have no idea why.. lol |
| [11:55:26] | null: | then you can compress it optimally with bz2 |
| [11:56:09] | Juski: | right... so ordinarily the free space would just be full of random crap? |
| [11:56:18] | null: | probably yes |
| [11:56:32] | Juski: | ahhh |
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| [11:57:00] | janneg: | or not so random old deleted data |
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| [11:59:48] | Juski: | crap., I can't remember what fs type the USB stick is |
| [12:08:52] | skorpion: | Anyone know how to do one single line outof b=`basename $s` |
| [12:08:53] | skorpion: | echo ${s:0:$((${#s}-${#b}))} |
| [12:10:11] | Kelerion: | can't you just mount it and find out, Juski? |
| [12:12:57] | Kelerion: | skorpion, what is it your trying to do? |
| [12:13:32] | Juski: | Kelerion: no free loop devices now |
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| [12:13:40] | Juski: | stupid umbongo |
| [12:13:45] | Kelerion: | oh dear.. that ain't good |
| [12:14:17] | Kelerion: | what are you using all the loop devices for? |
| [12:14:22] | Kelerion: | why's it run out? |
| [12:14:26] | Juski: | dunno |
| [12:14:37] | Juski: | it only has 8 loop devices by default |
| [12:14:38] | skorpion: | I'm trying to get a way for mythvideo to play entire directories. I have now managed to strip out the filename från the path mythvideo gives (the $s variable) |
| [12:14:56] | skorpion: | från=from |
| [12:15:11] | Juski: | skorpion: there are plenty ways to do it |
| [12:15:12] | skorpion: | Swenglisch ;) |
| [12:15:23] | Juski: | make all the filenames consecutive |
| [12:15:36] | Juski: | video0.mpeg |
| [12:15:38] | Kelerion: | yup.. and just point $s at the directory |
| [12:15:41] | Juski: | video1.mpeg etc |
| [12:16:03] | skorpion: | I dont want to rename all my movie-clips |
| [12:16:09] | Juski: | when you use the video manager is automagically adds the next consecutive filename to play next in that file's own metadata |
| [12:16:24] | Juski: | or you can make playlist files like I told you earlier |
| [12:16:30] | Juski: | if you paid any attention |
| [12:16:40] | Kelerion: | also.. in video manager you can specify the next video to be played after the current one finishes |
| [12:16:53] | skorpion: | Yes I read that, and it sort of that I planing to do |
| [12:17:22] | Juski: | yes you read that but you didn't acknowledge the fact |
| [12:18:40] | skorpion: | Juski, i dont want to create a lot of playlists. I want to add one file in every subdirectory that creates an "on-the-fly" playlist when i executes it. |
| [12:19:11] | Juski: | nobody EVER 'wants much' :-| |
| [12:20:44] | skorpion: | I would be pleased if you let me do it my way and tried (if you can) help me to build that one-line-command, Please |
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| [12:21:16] | Kelerion: | b=`basename $s`;echo ${s:0:$((${#s}-${#b}))} |
| [12:21:27] | Kelerion: | but.. don't see how it's gonna work |
| [12:22:06] | Juski: | sounds like a job for PERL-man |
| [12:22:35] | Kelerion: | no no no.. no bright red tights and undies on the outside thanks |
| [12:22:36] | Juski: | ls the directory, look for video files, make a playlist & start a video player |
| [12:23:07] | skorpion: | Kelerion, thanks |
| [12:23:22] | skorpion: | i really appreciated it |
| [12:23:28] | Juski: | then instead of having a 'video player' in the 'play videos command' bit in mythtv, put the name of your script in there. sucky way to do it if you ask me. |
| [12:23:37] | Kelerion: | I only added a semicolon |
| [12:23:55] | Juski: | it'll be better when mythtv has just one media player & it can playlist everything |
| [12:24:30] | skorpion: | yes, but couldnt have figured it out, I tried to put the basename-part inside the other, and probably I would have tried different ways for hours |
| [12:25:23] | Kelerion: | anyways.. given s=/video/test.mpg .. that spits out /video/ |
| [12:25:47] | Juski: | gotta love regex :-P |
| [12:25:57] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [12:26:11] | skorpion: | Fuck, that line does the same thing as dirname |
| [12:26:18] | Kelerion: | well.. yes. |
| [12:26:53] | Kelerion: | but it looks so much cooler.. lol |
| [12:26:59] | Juski: | mythvideo passes parameters other than just the filename? somebody document this now! |
| [12:27:08] | skorpion: | hehe, yeah right |
| [12:27:15] | Juski: | I'm fucking serious |
| [12:27:29] | Kelerion: | I thought it only passed filename |
| [12:27:30] | Juski: | you have any idea how many people probably won't know? |
| [12:27:56] | Juski: | I thought it only passed the filename too until "Fuck, that line does the same thing as dirname" |
| [12:28:09] | Juski: | or am I barking (mad) up the wrong tree? |
| [12:28:15] | Kelerion: | yes.. you are.. lol |
| [12:28:30] | Juski: | fuck it then |
| [12:28:31] | Kelerion: | dirname is a linux command.. lol |
| [12:28:37] | Juski: | is it? |
| [12:28:57] | Juski: | christ. |
| [12:29:00] | gardengnome: | dirname – strip non-directory suffix from file name |
| [12:29:02] | Juski: | WHY? |
| [12:29:03] | gardengnome: | :) |
| [12:29:19] | Kelerion: | you had too much coffee this morning Juski? :P |
| [12:29:32] | Juski: | no – this is nothing compared to yesterday |
| [12:29:45] | Juski: | took me all my resolve not to delete every byte of my webspace |
| [12:29:55] | Kelerion: | am glad I'm not having your week :) |
| [12:29:57] | Kelerion: | why? |
| [12:30:04] | Juski: | no idea |
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| [12:30:12] | Juski: | maybe Linux is making me bipolar |
| [12:30:20] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [12:30:21] | Juski: | .. or linux users... |
| [12:31:12] | Juski: | I think I'd best put being a mod again on the back burner. like WAY back |
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| [12:35:45] | Juski: | I was never this mardy til I started coming in here actually |
| [12:36:11] | null: | Can I change the path where mythweb is? I want it to be at /mythtv... |
| [12:36:46] | Kelerion: | null.. yes.. change it in your httpd.conf or whatever you use... just an an alias |
| [12:37:24] | Juski: | or rename the directory I guess |
| [12:37:32] | null: | Juski: I already renamed it ;-) |
| [12:38:08] | Kelerion: | I prefer aliases.. then anything hardcoded should still work.. (in theory) |
| [12:38:11] | null: | Well, it's a bit confusing with the proxy before the mythbox ;-) |
| [12:38:12] | Juski: | I can already see that this plan of mine to help people configure stuff isn't gonna wash with some people's idea of 'logical' |
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| [12:41:14] | Juski: | fucking hell if I see one more person say "I am a noob" I will explode |
| [12:41:55] | qu0zl: | do you mean, "I am a noob" as in I am a noob? Or "I am a noob" as in you're a noob? Sorry I don't understand, I'm a noob myself |
| [12:42:04] | ** qu0zl ducks ** | |
| [12:42:19] | ** Juski heads for therapt ** | |
| [12:42:23] | Juski: | dsajkfahsjklfaklasd |
| [12:42:27] | qu0zl: | hehe |
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| [12:42:33] | qu0zl: | oops :) |
| [12:42:49] | null: | cool down guys =) |
| [12:43:04] | Merlin83b: | Hehe |
| [12:43:09] | Merlin83b: | He'll be back :-) |
| [12:43:13] | qu0zl: | hehe |
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| [12:44:22] | qu0zl: | uhoh |
| [12:44:30] | Merlin83b: | Hehe |
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| [13:35:38] | Ruleke: | elloo jusker |
| [13:38:08] | Juski: | who? |
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| [13:42:23] | Ruleke: | you :P |
| [13:43:52] | Juski: | ROFLMAO.. there's a hack to ENABLE HDCP on a Goodmans LCD |
| [13:44:11] | Ruleke: | what's a goodmans lcd |
| [13:44:52] | Juski: | lcd TV |
| [13:45:06] | slaine_: | Goodmans are a cheap ass make |
| [13:45:24] | Juski: | but a hack to ENable HDCP.. pfft |
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| [13:50:08] | Ruleke: | hehe |
| [13:55:05] | Ruleke: | ah well |
| [13:55:12] | Ruleke: | I don't know a thing about the current lcd tech |
| [13:55:25] | Ruleke: | no idea what is good or bet beyond the basics like size and res |
| [13:57:24] | Juski: | best get used to hearing about HDCP then... it's what THEY are going to use to stop you viewing HD content on 'non-compliant' equipment |
| [13:57:34] | Ruleke: | brb |
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| [14:07:49] | madfactor: | Ohhhh wow... read the wiki on that! |
| [14:07:56] | madfactor: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Bandwidth_D . . . t_Protection |
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| [14:12:25] | Ruleke: | madfactor: yep I've seen the cryptanalysis :) |
| [14:13:41] | lotia: | anyone having trouble getting icons with mkiconmap.pl |
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| [14:17:53] | Juski: | anyone having trouble resisting the urge to go on a rampage with a shotgun? ;-) |
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| [14:20:10] | Ruleke: | aww Justin has gone postal |
| [14:20:54] | gardengnome: | cute, isn't he? |
| [14:21:05] | qu0zl: | you've seen the pictures too? |
| [14:21:11] | qu0zl: | ;) |
| [14:21:16] | Ruleke: | lol |
| [14:25:04] | Chicago: | Is anybody here using the "forceyv12" custom playback filter for ffmpeg in the tv settings playback menu? (My encoder card is a hauppauge 500mce) |
| [14:26:11] | Ruleke: | nope |
| [14:26:28] | gardengnome: | why would you do that? |
| [14:27:42] | Chicago: | chroma and luma |
| [14:28:03] | Chicago: | I was reading on google people use that custom filter with the hardware I use because of a known issue. |
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| [14:36:14] | Chicago: | Can anyone explain why I get a segfault when testing the 'forceyuv422p' custom playback filter? (What I'm doing is googling for different information about custom playback filters used and trying to discover the receipe that will give my software decoder the best picture from my hauppauge 150's.) |
| [14:40:35] | Ruleke: | I'd play with the settings when recording tbh |
| [14:44:47] | Chicago: | Ruleke: are you adjusting your quantization settings or something else? I have the bitrate testing at 16000/16000 (on the recording) |
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| [14:52:22] | Ruleke: | Chicago: ivtvctl settings actually |
| [14:53:49] | Chicago: | Should I be able to be getting closed captioning data soon with the ivtv driver? I'm on the 2.6.17 kernel w/ .7 ivtv drivers. |
| [14:54:06] | Ruleke: | You can already |
| [14:54:17] | Ruleke: | different modes are available |
| [14:54:25] | Ruleke: | no idea what the integration with myth is like |
| [14:54:39] | Ruleke: | though I thought I saw code for it in svn |
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| [15:02:47] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: very important.. don't check my themes in. they're broken |
| [15:04:01] | null: | Anyone with an idea why my remote command get passed to mythfrontend instead of mplayer in MythVideo? |
| [15:04:06] | Juski: | they won't get fixed til next week |
| [15:04:45] | GreyFoxx: | K |
| [15:04:50] | GreyFoxx: | What's wrong in them ? |
| [15:05:05] | Juski: | setup menu buttons are missing in the 4:3 theme |
| [15:05:09] | GreyFoxx: | nuahhh |
| [15:05:15] | GreyFoxx: | -nu |
| [15:05:30] | Juski: | godknows how I managed that |
| [15:05:31] | ** GreyFoxx is goofing around with embedded mysql ** | |
| [15:05:58] | Juski: | I expect it's this trans-background business again |
| [15:08:02] | Juski: | nope it's not. ah well |
| [15:09:02] | jams: | and GreyFoxx does it look like it will work withough much effort? |
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| [15:09:30] | GreyFoxx: | jams: So far I think it will |
| [15:09:38] | jams: | cool |
| [15:09:43] | Juski: | very! |
| [15:09:57] | GreyFoxx: | but that doesn't take into accound remote frontends/backends. But we knew that with any embedded db |
| [15:10:05] | jams: | right |
| [15:10:15] | GreyFoxx: | make the mythprotocol a simple sql proxy |
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| [15:10:57] | Juski: | damn. that coulda been more ammo to fire at the whiners |
| [15:11:01] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [15:11:22] | Ruleke: | afterworkdrinkytime |
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| [15:28:59] | Juski: | oh I totally give up with this |
| [15:30:48] | jams: | hmm useing an embedded db would also mean the backend needs to be up for remote frontends(plugins) to work |
| [15:30:54] | jams: | not for sure I like that |
| [15:31:16] | Juski: | there'd have to be some kind of price to pay... muhahahaha |
| [15:31:46] | jams: | yeah doin't like that at all |
| [15:32:09] | Juski: | I wouldn't mind |
| [15:32:22] | Juski: | since my frontend's filesystem is housed on the backend |
| [15:32:32] | Juski: | so the backend has to be up, by definition ;-) |
| [15:32:50] | jams: | ah but mythbackend does not need to be running |
| [15:32:55] | Juski: | unless you force users to share the db file over nfs or whatnot |
| [15:33:03] | Juski: | ahh no.. still the same problem |
| [15:33:20] | GreyFoxx: | Well, here's your choice then |
| [15:33:34] | GreyFoxx: | Run Mysql to do DB queries from remote, or run mythbackend to do it |
| [15:33:35] | jams: | Juski- how is it the same problem? |
| [15:33:58] | Juski: | jams the db file would have to be stored somewhere, and the machine storing it would have to be up anyway |
| [15:34:15] | Juski: | said machine would usually be the backend |
| [15:34:27] | jams: | right |
| [15:34:59] | Juski: | I wouldn't have thought it'd be that big a limitation anyway |
| [15:35:25] | GreyFoxx: | The other option |
| [15:35:37] | jams: | but currently the process of mythbackend does not need to be running for the frontend plugins to work |
| [15:35:48] | GreyFoxx: | is to make (or find) a simple sql proxy to the embedded DB and both frontends plus backend use it to talk to the database |
| [15:36:00] | Juski: | but currently setting up mysql is beyond HOW many users? ;-) |
| [15:36:18] | GreyFoxx: | no matter what something is going to HAVE to be running. IT's just a matter of picking the lesser evil |
| [15:37:07] | jams: | Just saying I have found it to be rather nice that the plugins work while the backend is not running |
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| [15:39:41] | Juski: | wouldn't people find the error popups a bit annoying though? "the backend seems to have gone away..." ?? |
| [15:40:12] | jams: | you only get that message when entering live-tv or watch recordings |
| [15:40:20] | Juski: | ah yeah |
| [15:40:46] | jams: | music,dvd,video still work without issue |
| [15:40:46] | Juski: | what about if (or when) myth becomes more of an all-in one thing though? |
| [15:41:43] | Juski: | nm.. that bit's academic anyway |
| [15:42:02] | jams: | heh |
| [15:42:11] | psofa: | any exciting thing since my two months old myth 0.20 svn? |
| [15:42:36] | GreyFoxx: | Nope, nothing |
| [15:42:37] | jams: | things to consider thats all |
| [15:42:40] | GreyFoxx: | no commits at all |
| [15:42:57] | psofa: | im thirsty for new bugs new installing procedures new database messing.... im sick |
| [15:43:14] | psofa: | i said exciting! |
| [15:43:30] | psofa: | and by that i dont mean perfect guide or a solved bug etc |
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| [15:50:29] | Juski: | if by that you meant SoC toys, forget em |
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| [15:53:34] | Juski: | damn this theme to hell... all I did was change a couple of PNG files ffs & the setup menu cancel/back/next buttons have vanished.. grrrr |
| [15:54:36] | Merlin83b: | Hehe |
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| [15:57:07] | psofa: | Juski, btw how did SoC went? i wanted to apply but i was busy with the million courses i didnt study the whole year :/ |
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| [15:58:00] | Juski: | lol. well all I'll say is I hope you weren't holding your breath for anything |
| [15:58:21] | psofa: | all went great i suppose :D |
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| [16:11:38] | Juski: | lo and behold.. it's not even a bug in my theme. FFS |
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| [16:15:14] | Juski: | !trout theme-tester-guy try_other_themes |
| [16:15:14] | ** MythLogBot slaps theme-tester-guy with a try_other_themes trout on behalf of Juski... ** | |
| [16:16:57] | GreyFoxx: | Bug in the theme engine ? |
| [16:18:30] | Juski: | think so |
| [16:19:15] | madfactor: | damn, qmysql3 error. |
| [16:19:51] | oish: | is there a reason why i am still hearing the tv channel even after i closed myth(front|back)end |
| [16:19:52] | oish: | ? |
| [16:20:04] | Juski: | to test wide themes on my setup I scaled it to 640x360 – setup menus are fine in -wide themes but not in 4:3 ones |
| [16:20:23] | Anduin: | oish: Look at the setup guide at mythtv.org |
| [16:20:31] | oish: | ok |
| [16:20:39] | Juski: | but not in all menu screens – it only seems to be the 1st menu item of every setup menu page which is affected |
| [16:21:01] | GreyFoxx: | well, got this little commandline app reading the mythconverg database with embedded mysql, now to see what it will take to get Qt to do the same |
| [16:21:54] | Juski: | ahh it's not the buttons aren't there – they're just off the screen |
| [16:22:00] | Juski: | I'll make a screenshot or 2 |
| [16:22:12] | Anduin: | Juski: Why not hook it up to a monitor and test at real wide resolutions? |
| [16:22:22] | Juski: | I can't |
| [16:22:28] | Juski: | that's why not |
| [16:23:02] | Juski: | even my own frontend is using 720x576 with a wide theme |
| [16:23:11] | Juski: | for a 16:9 TV |
| [16:24:37] | Juski: | why the hell did I ever start doing all this? |
| [16:24:51] | oish: | Anduin, i searched the setup guide and i still can't find information on this |
| [16:24:57] | Anduin: | Juski: money |
| [16:25:16] | Juski: | money? pah! recognition? pah! |
| [16:25:34] | gardengnome: | Juski: stop pitying yourself... |
| [16:25:37] | Anduin: | must be for the ladies then |
| [16:26:12] | Juski: | well let's face it.. I'm not cut out for this. |
| [16:26:27] | Juski: | it's all half-assed |
| [16:27:25] | sphery: | oish: http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html |
| [16:28:40] | sphery: | Same idea as audio not in sync with video--you haven't muted the line in |
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| [16:29:53] | Juski: | but hey if anyone out there feels like donating a wide monitor, I'm all for that :-P |
| [16:30:00] | Anduin: | I managed to skip over Configuring Sound at least twice looking for what I knew was there. |
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| [16:31:55] | oish: | yeah.. i managed to skip it |
| [16:31:57] | oish: | thanks guys |
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| [16:53:41] | sphery: | Anyone know who should get a ticket for default-wide theme components? |
| [16:55:31] | sphery: | GoToDev shows default and default-osd as jdonavan's. I guess I'll go with that... |
| [16:55:58] | kormoc: | or just leave it set to blank, which puts it to issac who re-assigns it to whomever should get it |
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| [16:56:47] | Anduin: | I'd leave it blank |
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| [16:58:56] | ** gardengnome tries to squeeze some useful information out of a 3gb logfile (which was created in 2 hours) ** | |
| [17:00:12] | sphery: | Hmmm. Should have left it blank. (Especially since jdonavan is MIA. :) |
| [17:00:28] | sphery: | Do you have to be a logged in use to close a ticket? |
| [17:00:41] | jams: | maybe some day he will come back |
| [17:00:55] | sphery: | Someone re-opened one (that shouldn't have been re-opened), and I can't figure out how to re-close it. |
| [17:01:17] | sphery: | I left a comment about why the issue he saw was different, but it's still shown as open. |
| [17:01:42] | Anduin: | which? |
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| [17:02:12] | sphery: | #1955 http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1955#comment:4 |
| [17:02:18] | sphery: | thx |
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| [17:16:52] | Hoxzer: | *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x081a1740 *** |
| [17:17:04] | Hoxzer: | :( I just hate that as It doesn't show up in log |
| [17:17:10] | Hoxzer: | I cannot make bug report ... |
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| [17:36:31] | podzap: | hi |
| [17:36:51] | podzap: | how do i fix my mythtv so that it fits on my tv screen? |
| [17:37:04] | podzap: | it's currently a bit too large |
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| [17:44:24] | Juski: | well so much for that being a bug OR a problem with my theme. http://www.juski.co.uk/screenshot.png |
| [17:44:31] | Juski: | jpg even |
| [17:46:42] | madfactor: | have a problem |
| [17:51:07] | Juski: | keyboard not working? |
| [17:51:32] | Juski: | oh... what's the problem? (people usually just spit it out right away, FYI) |
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| [17:55:55] | podzap: | i'm just testing 0.19 with my new dvb card, and seems that myth has quite many bugs relating to dvb |
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| [18:05:19] | madfactor: | Sorry... |
| [18:05:35] | madfactor: | no one answered in so long... |
| [18:05:37] | madfactor: | (hehe) |
| [18:05:41] | madfactor: | I have two problems now. |
| [18:06:30] | madfactor: | Where are the themes located in a standard compile of mythtv... and how to get the xbox controller working on a mythtv xbox-linux compile? |
| [18:06:32] | gardengnome: | podzap: try svn head. |
| [18:06:52] | gardengnome: | madfactor: /usr/local/share/mythtv/ i think |
| [18:06:59] | madfactor: | The xbox controller is just a USB device... just like the IR remote is... there has to be some sort of lirc config for it. |
| [18:07:44] | gardengnome: | my cup warmer ist just an USB device... there has to be some sort of lirc config for it. |
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| [18:08:16] | madfactor: | IR remotes aren't HID when plugged into usb ports? |
| [18:08:44] | madfactor: | Man... there doesn't appear to be a channel for that ??? |
| [18:08:48] | madfactor: | (hehe) |
| [18:10:19] | psofa: | madfactor, a google search gave this http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/LIRC |
| [18:13:14] | psofa: | not only that but lirc has an xbox driver as gentoo has an xbox flag for lirc |
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| [18:13:23] | psofa: | so its definatelly possible |
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| [18:20:02] | Juski: | madfactor: xbox controller counts as a joystick (cos that's what it is) |
| [18:20:31] | madfactor: | They are HID devices |
| [18:20:51] | Juski: | which joysticks are yes.. human interface devices |
| [18:22:03] | Juski: | so get the controller working in linux on the xbox and build mythtv with joystick support |
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| [18:23:34] | Aid1: | great i keep getting 'Segmentation fault' |
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| [18:25:52] | madfactor: | the only flag ./configure has that related anything to joystick is --disable-joystick-menu |
| [18:26:13] | Juski: | well it must always be enabled now. it wasn't always so IIRC |
| [18:26:36] | madfactor: | So, I making an assumption in asking, does that mean that mythtv has a joystick menu built in? |
| [18:26:50] | Juski: | presumably yes |
| [18:26:57] | madfactor: | None of this is in mythtv docs. |
| [18:27:09] | madfactor: | Have you ever seen it? |
| [18:27:10] | Aid1: | whenever i try to play a recording or finish watching i recording i get Segmentation fault and mythfrontend just dies |
| [18:27:13] | Juski: | I built mythfrontend on my xbox & I've never tried the joystick |
| [18:27:14] | Kelerion: | theres plenty of it in google though |
| [18:27:37] | madfactor: | I already have an xbox at every TV, but not a single remote. (hehe) |
| [18:27:54] | Juski: | madfactor: ahh that's the bit where you're expected to read somebody's mind or else find out by accident ;-) |
| [18:27:55] | Kelerion: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV#Joystick_control |
| [18:28:20] | madfactor: | I have a media server, that serves xvids and dvds to every TV in the house. |
| [18:28:32] | madfactor: | This is xebian not gentoo. |
| [18:28:47] | Kelerion: | still relevant |
| [18:28:50] | Juski: | madfactor: same principles at play |
| [18:29:01] | madfactor: | That is rockin! |
| [18:29:06] | madfactor: | ;) |
| [18:29:52] | madfactor: | That makes me so happy... I think I'm gonna put this computer crap down for a while and beat on my accoustic. |
| [18:30:19] | jonK: | Aid1: That is not optimal mythtv performance |
| [18:30:26] | Kelerion: | and all I did to find that out was type "joystick mythtv howto" into google :) |
| [18:31:07] | madfactor: | I did the same thing... all I got was links to infinite forums with questions and no answers. |
| [18:31:10] | Aid1: | jonK: i know.. it is annoying |
| [18:31:18] | madfactor: | Strange huh? |
| [18:31:41] | madfactor: | After reading two or three pages of search hits, I gave up. |
| [18:31:47] | Aid1: | jonK: any ideas on what i should do about it? |
| [18:31:56] | Kelerion: | okies.. food time.. back in a bit |
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| [18:32:42] | jonK: | try a different version of mythtv maybe |
| [18:32:51] | jonK: | and make sure to fully clean out the old one |
| [18:33:20] | Aid1: | wish i knew how to do that |
| [18:33:53] | jonK: | I was going to suggest the debugger as well, but perhaps I better not. |
| [18:34:15] | Aid1: | yese im rather new to linux... but ive installed mythtv before and just got a new hd and reinsalled everything... so |
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| [18:41:34] | jonK: | any other new haredware? |
| [18:41:56] | jonK: | hareware — yes made from bunnies |
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| [18:42:25] | psycodad: | hi |
| [18:42:53] | psycodad: | i have two backends, one master and one slave, if i want to start the live views and recordings always on the master if possible, what should i set under input priority for master and slave resp. ? |
| [18:45:29] | sphery: | psycodad: LiveTV always prefers local inputs first... |
| [18:45:36] | madfactor: | It kinda works |
| [18:46:18] | psycodad: | well...MBE and SBE are a box, while all frontends are diskless clients...so what does backend select when connecting to the master ? |
| [18:46:41] | psycodad: | to say, frontend and backend are completely separated, the backends run no X |
| [18:47:31] | sphery: | If there are no local capture cards, it chooses the highest preference capture card (if all have the same preference, the lowest-numbered one is chosen). |
| [18:47:38] | sphery: | If you select "Avoid conflicts between live TV and scheduled shows" it chooses the last (highest-numbered) card available, instead. |
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| [18:48:12] | podzap: | for example, when i watch a dvb channel with swedish, english, finnish, and norwegian sound tracks, i only see swedish and english in the menu, and myth plays two tracks at once (making it impossible to hear)... really buggy. |
| [18:48:16] | sphery: | Note, also, that recordings will use the highest-preference capture card, so if you use LiveTV a lot (for some unknown reason), you will get kicked out when recordings start. |
| [18:48:47] | sphery: | Why do you always want the master to capture for LiveTV? |
| [18:49:42] | psycodad: | the master has a pvr150 and the slave a bt848 (which i have no sound on yet *lol* but working on it) |
| [18:49:59] | sphery: | So, you probably set up the PVR-150 first, right? |
| [18:50:06] | psycodad: | so i want basically the following, more than one frontend being able to watch livetv |
| [18:50:28] | psycodad: | but if only one frontend wants livetv it should come from the master. |
| [18:50:50] | psycodad: | so i guess setting input priority on the master to 10 does what i want |
| [18:51:02] | podzap: | i select "english" and i hear english, finnish, and swedish at the same time. i select "swedish" and i hear swedish, finnish, and norwegian at the same time. |
| [18:51:37] | sphery: | OK, wait. I didn't say that right. |
| [18:51:48] | sphery: | The input preference only affects the scheduler (i.e. for recordings). |
| [18:52:07] | sphery: | The order of the cards in the database is used to choose a card for LiveTV. |
| [18:52:20] | gardengnome: | podzap: are you on svn trunk now? |
| [18:52:28] | psycodad: | master is the first card with id 1 |
| [18:52:34] | psycodad: | strange |
| [18:52:40] | sphery: | So, if you set up your PVR-150 first and then set up your BTTV card, it should always choose the PVR-150 |
| [18:52:53] | sphery: | UNLESS you select "Avoid conflicts between live TV and scheduled shows" |
| [18:53:02] | sphery: | In which case it will always choose the BTTV card first. |
| [18:53:15] | psycodad: | lemme check if i have that set on master or slave... |
| [18:53:20] | sphery: | So, you don't want the avoid conflicts setting enabled |
| [18:53:23] | podzap: | gardengnome: no, not yet. still 0.19... |
| [18:53:31] | sphery: | But that means that you'll also get kicked out of LiveTV when recordings start. |
| [18:53:42] | sphery: | The best solution is to stop watching LiveTV. :) |
| [18:53:54] | sphery: | Use the PVR as it was designed to be used. |
| [18:53:57] | psycodad: | does that mean my second card never gets used ? |
| [18:54:02] | gardengnome: | podzap: then you should stop making pointless complaints ;) there have been lots of improvements for DVB in svn trunk which will soon become 0.20 |
| [18:54:07] | sphery: | Only used when the first card is already in use. |
| [18:54:15] | psycodad: | or only for overlapping recordings ? |
| [18:54:18] | sphery: | yep |
| [18:54:36] | sphery: | Which is what you probably want since it's a frame grabber... |
| [18:54:45] | psycodad: | that means, if livetv is running, a recording start, i get kicked, reenter and can watch on the slave ? |
| [18:54:57] | podzap: | gardengnome: i'm not up on the development status. when is 0.20 going to be released? |
| [18:55:09] | gardengnome: | podzap: "in two weeks" ;) |
| [18:55:11] | sphery: | Yep. |
| [18:55:34] | gardengnome: | podzap: which translates to "soon". no new features are added at the moment, only bug fixes go in |
| [18:55:58] | sphery: | Until a second recording start, then you can't watch LiveTV and you'll have to watch the shows you actually told Myth you want to watch (i.e. the recordings). |
| [18:56:16] | psycodad: | hey thx a lot, now i kinda got how the selection of inputs works... |
| [18:56:24] | sphery: | Which comes back to the whole question, "If you want to watch it, why not tell Myth to record it." |
| [18:56:29] | ** psycodad afk for checking the 2 backends settings ** | |
| [18:56:50] | sphery: | Record everything you /might/ possibly want to watch and you'll never need LiveTV. |
| [18:57:03] | psycodad: | sphery: i want to show off to the family and girlfriend right now, and i don't have the bt848 working with sound...simple reason ;-) |
| [18:57:14] | sphery: | That's a good reason. |
| [18:57:15] | sphery: | :) |
| [18:57:32] | psycodad: | im in early stages of setup effort and need some reasons for the management to justify further budget and time ,-) |
| [18:57:39] | sphery: | I'm not a fan of LiveTV (and all its issues--commercials, watching on their schedule--not mine, etc.) |
| [18:58:11] | sphery: | Definitely have to get it fixed up, then. That way you can get the additional funds. :) |
| [18:58:24] | Juski: | heheh. it's SO 20th century, that livetv stuff |
| [18:58:26] | psycodad: | me neither, my dream is to collect all series i love (malcolm, simpsons, futurama etc.) and watch them before bed time ;-) |
| [18:58:58] | psycodad: | if i get funds for an additional pvr150 or even a 500 the whole discussion is futile |
| [18:59:01] | psycodad: | lol |
| [18:59:20] | sphery: | From MythWeb's statistics page, under Top Recorded Shows: 1 The Simpsons 380 May 21 2006 |
| [18:59:33] | sphery: | Need another fix--can't wait for the new season. |
| [19:00:08] | sphery: | The 380 episodes I've watched just haven't quenched my thirst for Simpsons humor. |
| [19:00:34] | scopeuk: | you need alot of storage for that |
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| [19:00:43] | scopeuk: | futurama divxed takes around 13 gig |
| [19:00:49] | psycodad: | i have 6 of 7 seasons available here on dvd, but well... ;-) |
| [19:00:50] | scopeuk: | well xvided |
| [19:01:17] | psycodad: | sphery: pls help, that avoid conflict setting is in the frontends config, right ? |
| [19:01:39] | psycodad: | is the frontend the one that actually selects an input or the master decides who gets what ? |
| [19:02:20] | psycodad: | ive seen so many mythish setting screens i lose track ;-) |
| [19:02:39] | Juski: | there are only over 165 setup menu screens – what are you complaining for? |
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| [19:03:24] | psycodad: | thought more of a few thousands, but then excuse my complaint i have just a lousy memory |
| [19:03:35] | sphery: | "Avoid conflicts between live TV and scheduled shows. |
| [19:03:41] | sphery: | on General settings |
| [19:03:46] | sphery: | page 1, General (Basic) |
| [19:03:50] | sphery: | of frontend settings |
| [19:04:02] | psycodad: | ty alot |
| [19:04:18] | sphery: | Juski: for real 165 screens? |
| [19:05:06] | Juski: | I took screenshots of over 160 screens just going through the menus |
| [19:05:10] | sphery: | Wow. |
| [19:05:38] | Juski: | ditched that project since then though. fuck that! write the uber manual?! pah! |
| [19:06:14] | sphery: | I hope Justin's work on settings is actually usable. |
| [19:06:35] | sphery: | I always get the settings' names/descriptions/locations from the source. |
| [19:06:42] | gardengnome: | BTW, does anyone else experience problems with livetv in svn trunk? mine doesm't switch to a new program occasionally. |
| [19:07:03] | Juski: | that's mostly why I ditched the manual project.. when the UI is re-jigged etc it's all gonna be obsoleted |
| [19:07:13] | sphery: | Was thinking of coding up a little parser that could provide all that info through a web interface... |
| [19:07:20] | Juski: | not forgetting laziness of course :P |
| [19:07:22] | sphery: | The "settings map" |
| [19:07:39] | sphery: | Yeah, laziness is why I never did the parser. |
| [19:08:01] | sphery: | Justin's work was just an ex-post-facto excuse. :) |
| [19:08:20] | Juski: | bastardo. my theme stuff is going to need a jiggle around to accomodate a user request. very tempted just to leave it as is |
| [19:08:29] | sphery: | which request? |
| [19:09:40] | Juski: | some screens (even I have to admit) look a bit strange because of myth's limitation of not being able to have a different background in certain parts... like the main background.png is also the background for video gallery, picture gallery etc etc etc |
| [19:10:10] | Juski: | but I've thought of a workaround for it |
| [19:10:25] | Juski: | dunno if it'll work throughout though |
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| [19:12:19] | sphery: | Wow. Sounds cool. Won't that require patching the theming engine? |
| [19:12:32] | sphery: | Or did you have a workaround that works with the existing engine? |
| [19:12:46] | Juski: | I have an _idea_ to work around the limitation |
| [19:12:58] | sphery: | Is there a good reason to keep the limitation? |
| [19:13:13] | sphery: | If not, it might be possible to get a patch in... |
| [19:13:23] | Juski: | prolly too late now anyway |
| [19:13:46] | Juski: | I can test the ideas out tomorrow |
| [19:13:48] | sphery: | Definitely too late for 0.20, so if you're working on it for someone in 0.20... |
| [19:14:08] | Juski: | I could leave it as it is – I mean it doesn't look THAT bad |
| [19:14:10] | sphery: | Perhaps, though for 0.21 (which should be much farther along the path to mythui...) |
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| [19:14:21] | sphery: | cool. |
| [19:14:23] | sphery: | well, gl |
| [19:14:32] | Juski: | I think I might retire from theming when all the mythui stuff comes in |
| [19:14:45] | sphery: | But then who will create themes? |
| [19:14:54] | sphery: | We'll be stuck with just a few... |
| [19:15:03] | Juski: | we'll see. |
| [19:15:07] | sphery: | I definitely can't create them--I have no artistic talent. |
| [19:15:13] | jams: | hahaha |
| [19:15:19] | Juski: | depends if I like any of the ones provided already |
| [19:15:26] | sphery: | Hmmm. |
| [19:15:33] | Juski: | if not, then I'll be compelled again |
| [19:16:05] | sphery: | So, I'll just have to come in here and plant a lot of messages that get you to not like them... |
| [19:16:09] | sphery: | :) |
| [19:16:49] | sphery: | Hmm, don't see a /subliminal_msg in irssi |
| [19:17:01] | sphery: | Maybe I'll have to code one in. |
| [19:18:04] | jams: | right, just make the text match the background |
| [19:18:11] | jams: | never know its there |
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| [19:19:31] | sphery: | that would work... |
| [19:20:16] | Juski: | not so sure someone who can't take criticism very well should be doing stuff like this anyway. been a right bad tempered bastard lately |
| [19:20:50] | jams: | nothing compared to others round here |
| [19:20:52] | sphery: | we still appreciate all your efforts, though |
| [19:22:10] | ** jams makes another iso ** | |
| [19:24:20] | jams: | www.videomaven.net <= decent site |
| [19:28:47] | Juski: | time to get ready for a biiiiig journey anyhow... |
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| [19:40:29] | sigger: | if you were choosing between an AMD 64 2.4 GHz and a 64 X2 2.0 GHz for a myth box that will prolly just play HD dvds and avi's (maybe some encoding in the distant future) which would you choose? |
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| [19:41:39] | Ribs: | X2 is dual core, right? |
| [19:41:43] | sigger: | ya |
| [19:41:44] | gardengnome: | yep |
| [19:41:47] | Ribs: | I'd personally use that one |
| [19:41:58] | Ribs: | then it'll cope a bit better with using the box whilst it encodes |
| [19:42:36] | gardengnome: | i'd like to buy a core 2 duo (E3600). can anyone recommend a good mainboard? they tend to be very expensive. |
| [19:42:36] | sigger: | encoding the only reason? cuz it may not ever actually happen on this box |
| [19:43:27] | aevil: | gardengnome, there are also cheap ones from asrock. not even worse, performance-wise |
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| [19:44:00] | Ribs: | sigger, will it transcode? |
| [19:44:09] | Ribs: | sigger, I think it will generally just multitask better |
| [19:44:19] | Ribs: | like, when filling the database etc. |
| [19:44:25] | Ribs: | the TV won't screw up |
| [19:45:10] | sigger: | gardengnome: I've been focusing on AMD, in part cause the intel, while it sounds sexy was a little too bleeding edge. not enough data on what's the good mobo on newegg etc |
| [19:45:31] | sigger: | prolly no transcoding either. no pc that has a capture card |
| [19:45:45] | Ribs: | So why do you need such a powerfull CPU in the first place? |
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| [19:46:54] | sigger: | stuff I read on CPU's handling HDTV playback suggest it needs some real firepower. Trying to make damn certain that it can handle it and the extra $50 vs a lesser CPU not a big deal |
| [19:47:55] | sigger: | but at the end of the day, I gotta pick one. |
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| [19:58:16] | magneticubuntu: | re |
| [19:58:19] | magneticubuntu: | "hello world |
| [20:00:52] | madfactor: | what is that pause hotkey? |
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| [20:04:56] | tyler-wylie: | anyone here able to help me, I can't get my listings to sync with my clock... everything's 4 hours off |
| [20:06:07] | podzap: | i'm using EIT |
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| [20:08:40] | tyler-wylie: | EIT? |
| [20:09:31] | jams: | tyler-wylie- make sure your system clock is correct and the timezone is set correctly |
| [20:09:55] | tyler-wylie: | jams, it is |
| [20:10:13] | jams: | using utc or localtime? |
| [20:11:07] | podzap: | EIT is built-in channel listings in digital channels |
| [20:11:16] | tyler-wylie: | localtime |
| [20:11:23] | undy_away: | hello, I have simple question,when I have pc with frontend and backend (with dvb-t card..) can I use dvb-s card from other pc (I know that I can use backend on other pc but this is not comfortable, because I must quit my frontend and start other with diferent config... is there another simple way?) |
| [20:12:24] | podzap: | i have a dvb-c card in my backend, and minimyth as my front-end on a diskless box |
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| [20:18:04] | tyler-wylie: | what time is it UTC? |
| [20:18:08] | jonK: | anyone around that could answer a mythweb question? |
| [20:18:50] | jams: | tyler-wylie- what time zone are you in? |
| [20:18:59] | jams: | eastern? |
| [20:19:02] | tyler-wylie: | yea |
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| [20:19:05] | tyler-wylie: | What's UTC time though |
| [20:19:07] | tyler-wylie: | not eastern |
| [20:19:45] | jams: | its 4 hours ahead of eastern |
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| [20:24:02] | tyler-wylie: | Grr |
| [20:24:04] | tyler-wylie: | no matter what |
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| [20:24:06] | tyler-wylie: | I can't get it right |
| [20:24:08] | tyler-wylie: | I set it to UTC |
| [20:24:13] | tyler-wylie: | change my zone to EST |
| [20:24:19] | tyler-wylie: | and it skips 7 hours ahead |
| [20:24:20] | tyler-wylie: | /cries |
| [20:24:34] | tyler-wylie: | it's still 4 hours ahead on my listings |
| [20:25:06] | jams: | tyler-wylie- change the clock in the bios to be UTC, tell the system your using UTC and set the timezone to EDT. |
| [20:25:25] | jams: | which distro anyhow? |
| [20:25:29] | tyler-wylie: | gentoo |
| [20:25:35] | jams: | ah |
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| [20:25:42] | jams: | don't know a thing about how gentoo does stuff |
| [20:26:11] | gardengnome: | it's well-documented :) |
| [20:26:16] | ** gardengnome afk, ttyl ** | |
| [20:26:23] | psycodad: | does the mythbackend have to run on a frontend-only machine ( without a tv-card, just for viewing) ? |
| [20:26:30] | gardengnome: | psycodad: no |
| [20:27:11] | psycodad: | where does the frontend log to if it cant get a stream from a backend and just falles back to the home screen |
| [20:27:16] | psycodad: | thx gardengnome |
| [20:28:35] | psycodad: | or how to debug such problems in frontends best (have no physical access to the backends right now...) |
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| [20:31:21] | tyler-wylie: | I went back |
| [20:31:24] | tyler-wylie: | changed my system clock |
| [20:31:27] | tyler-wylie: | set my time to EST |
| [20:31:36] | tyler-wylie: | and I still get 4 hours off on all my listings |
| [20:32:58] | sigger: | well, finished spec'ing my new high-ish powered, ready for HDTV frontend. thanks to all who gave advice. for the 2.3 people who are interested in a new system: http://pastebin.ca/157884 $515 at newegg. |
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| [20:35:59] | fer2: | hello |
| [20:36:24] | tyler-wylie: | knjvgKL:DJhga;sdjkhgpkufdhg;sdlija;gsdkjghapfdhg9q043867t9q-8fdg7vba' |
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| [20:37:27] | fer2: | tyler-wylie: good for you. maybe it's better to stop smoking that stuff... |
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| [20:38:10] | tyler-wylie: | stop smoking gentoo? |
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| [20:41:52] | mos__: | is anyone here running mythtv with the xfs filesystem? |
| [20:42:04] | xris: | I used to |
| [20:42:28] | mos__: | how is the stability, i know mythtv + reiser is a bad combination |
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| [20:47:43] | xris: | XFS is fine except when dealing with lvm on top of software raid |
| [20:47:48] | xris: | that has nothing to do with mythtv, though |
| [20:48:15] | mos__: | xris, thanks |
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| [20:49:47] | podzap: | mos__: i use xfs on my backend file storage |
| [20:50:12] | mos__: | podzap, yeah thats what I meant, is it stable enough for you? |
| [20:50:14] | podzap: | i use xfs on lvm on software raid, and never had a problem. |
| [20:50:52] | xris: | podzap: you'll have to read jarod's guide about it. I think it depends on specific kernel versions |
| [20:51:19] | jonK: | xris, aren't you the mythweb guru? |
| [20:51:20] | podzap: | last time i experienced a filesystem releated bug was reiserfs and linux 2.4.17 uurc |
| [20:51:27] | podzap: | iirc |
| [20:51:30] | mos__: | hmmm.... then it might be a good idea to avoid it for now, i use 2.6.17-ck1 |
| [20:52:08] | mos__: | podzap, use any kernel + reiser for your backend storage and you will have corruption within days |
| [20:52:21] | podzap: | i have used xfs lvm software raid on my server for 5 months now, more than a terabyte of data, never had a problem. |
| [20:52:22] | xris: | mos__: with the new async delete in the backend, there's no huge advantage to it over ext3... if you want something else, jfs is good |
| [20:53:02] | tyler-wylie: | mythtv is ignoring my zone settings |
| [20:53:29] | xris: | what kind of zone? |
| [20:53:34] | tyler-wylie: | EST |
| [20:53:38] | tyler-wylie: | All my programs are 4 hours off sync |
| [20:53:40] | xris: | time zone, then? |
| [20:53:46] | tyler-wylie: | channel 2 action news comes on at 4?!? |
| [20:54:36] | tyler-wylie: | turning off auto |
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| [21:09:06] | Ribs: | there is a offset setting |
| [21:09:10] | Ribs: | I forget where it is tho |
| [21:09:22] | jams: | yeah it's per channel |
| [21:09:42] | jams: | its in the setup screens for the channels |
| [21:10:21] | jams: | tyler-wylie- did you try dropping the video source and adding it again (after adjusting the clock/timezone) ? |
| [21:11:28] | tyler-wylie: | jams, nope, just tried refilling my database, i'll try that now |
| [21:11:48] | podzap: | anyway to turn off multiple dvb sound tracks, or is it just a bug? |
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| [21:18:08] | tyler-wylie: | jams, you are the fucking man |
| [21:18:21] | tyler-wylie: | jams, Channel 2 action news at noon comes on at noon now yay! |
| [21:18:24] | Ribs: | he might be single! |
| [21:18:40] | tyler-wylie: | OMG MARRY ME JAMS |
| [21:18:49] | jams: | sorry not single |
| [21:18:56] | jams: | glad it worked though |
| [21:21:38] | tyler-wylie: | what time is it UTC? |
| [21:21:40] | tyler-wylie: | synced |
| [21:22:08] | Hoxzer: | tyler-wylie: :D? |
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| [21:26:41] | hobophobe: | just wondering the best options/support list for both tv card and the methods for changing a settop box channel? |
| [21:26:46] | magneticubuntu: | guys: how do i uninstall ivtv so i can downgrade to an older version please? |
| [21:27:18] | hobophobe: | magneticubuntu, in ubuntu you'll probably just apt-get remove ivtv? |
| [21:29:27] | mos__: | hobophobe, the best tv card would likely be the pchdtv3000 |
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| [21:29:53] | mos__: | as it was designed for linux |
| [21:31:03] | hobophobe: | ah, neato |
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| [21:31:58] | nero: | hobophobe, if you are using a set top box, pchdtv3000 is not what you want.. |
| [21:32:01] | Anduin: | hobophobe: for non-HD the PVR150 |
| [21:32:28] | hobophobe: | nero, why is that so? |
| [21:33:01] | nero: | hobophobe, pchdtv3000 is an HD tuner.. wont do any good hooked up to a STB.. for a STB you need a SDTV card, such as the PVR-x50 series.. |
| [21:33:12] | hobophobe: | ah, okay |
| [21:33:42] | nero: | to do HD out of a STB, it needs to have firewire out, the firewire out has to be enabled, AND the channels must be unencrypted.. and in that case, you just use a firewire connection |
| [21:34:34] | nero: | as for controlling a STB, there are 2 options- if your STB has a low speed (serial) data port, you can probably build/buy a low speed cable, and change channels that way.. Otherwise, you need to go the IR Blaster/LIRC route. |
| [21:36:32] | hobophobe: | Yeah. The STB has what looks like a serial data label RS 232, but I'm thinking the IR might be better anyway? |
| [21:37:15] | hobophobe: | My motherboard has five pins in a row in the same block where I plug in the reset switch/etc. but I'm not sure what kind of connector/if that would be worth messing with or what I should use for IR. |
| [21:37:27] | nero: | no.. if you can get the serial low speed port working that is definitely the way to go.. |
| [21:37:32] | hobophobe: | ah |
| [21:37:39] | nero: | much more reliable tuning, faster, and easier. |
| [21:37:50] | nero: | what kind of STB is it? |
| [21:38:51] | hobophobe: | The brand is general instruments, I'm not sure the model name/number |
| [21:38:55] | nero: | (I was using an IR Blaster.. every time my wife would dust, she would knock the thing over, etc.. and it would stop tuning.. plus the speed at which signals had to be sent was slow.. upgrated to a STB with RS232 port, and things ahve been MUCH better) |
| [21:39:10] | nero: | humm.. for cable or sat? |
| [21:39:37] | hobophobe: | cable, dct2244 I think |
| [21:41:09] | hobophobe: | The serial protocol depends on the box? How hard is it to configure that setup? |
| [21:41:18] | nero: | I beleive you should be able to control that box via RS-232.. but you might want to do some googling. |
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| [21:41:54] | nero: | not sure.. I found perl script for my RCA DTV box.. someone has probably already done all the hard work for you, but googling may give you a better answer. |
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| [21:42:38] | hobophobe: | bingo, someone else with the same box apparently wrote up their mythtv setup :o) (<3 open source) |
| [21:42:47] | nero: | there ya go! :) |
| [21:43:27] | hobophobe: | So now all I need is to get a card and the serial cable and I should be good to go. |
| [21:43:31] | niktaris_lap: | hi all |
| [21:44:20] | nero: | hobophobe, yup! :) If you can find a PVR-250, rumor has it they offer a little higher quality video than the 150.. |
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| [21:44:53] | nero: | but defnitely go the Hauppage PVR-x50 route.. (IMHO) |
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| [21:45:30] | niktaris_lap: | how can I manually add a channel to mythtv? |
| [21:45:33] | hobophobe: | is that non-WinTV model, or are they just called WinTV? |
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| [21:45:57] | nero: | umm.. not sure.. if it is the WinTV PVR-150 then it is the right card.. |
| [21:46:14] | hobophobe: | okay |
| [21:46:28] | nero: | http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr150.html <--- the 150 |
| [21:47:05] | mchou: | nero: I disagree, for STB you need firewire and a beefy processor :) |
| [21:47:18] | nero: | I dont think they make the 250 any more.. but you can sometimes find them used.. |
| [21:47:22] | mchou: | nero: and no need for rs-323 |
| [21:47:27] | nero: | mchou, that is assuming your STB will output via firewire.. |
| [21:47:39] | mchou: | nero: I meant rs-232 |
| [21:47:41] | nero: | I dont think the dct2244 has firewire out.. |
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| [21:47:58] | mchou: | hobophobe: who is your cable provider? |
| [21:48:00] | ru_: | hi guys |
| [21:48:04] | hobophobe: | charter |
| [21:48:12] | ru_: | could someone explain to me how to transcode my recordings? |
| [21:48:23] | nero: | (I think that is the same STB my parents have.. and it had no FW in/out) |
| [21:48:25] | ru_: | and what do the user jobs #1,2,3... do ? |
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| [21:48:34] | hobophobe: | Yeah I did not see any firewire |
| [21:48:34] | mchou: | hobophobe: upgrade the STB to one that has firewire out (They must do this by law in US) |
| [21:48:40] | hobophobe: | Hmm |
| [21:48:50] | hobophobe: | Interesting |
| [21:49:11] | nero: | hobophobe, but then hope you dont have any encrypted channels you want to watch.. |
| [21:49:16] | mchou: | hobophobe: if you have beefor proc already then go firewire |
| [21:49:25] | mchou: | beefy* |
| [21:49:32] | mchou: | nero: lol |
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| [21:49:51] | enyc: | meepmeep |
| [21:50:03] | hobophobe: | Well encrypted includes any digital right? |
| [21:50:05] | nero: | why lol?? or are none of the SD channels encrypted? |
| [21:50:31] | mchou: | nero: nope. None of the SD channels are encrypted. Nor the OTA |
| [21:50:39] | nero: | there have been plenty of complaints on the mailing list of people not being able to get xxx channel. |
| [21:50:43] | podzap: | anybody here using dvb-c with conax cam? |
| [21:50:44] | nero: | mchou, good to know :) |
| [21:50:51] | hobophobe: | I want to be able to record anything I can watch through the box. |
| [21:50:53] | mchou: | only "premium" ones above basic |
| [21:50:57] | nero: | and by xxx channel, I dont mean the nudie channel either.. ;) |
| [21:51:08] | mchou: | are encrypted (and that's for HD) |
| [21:51:15] | enyc: | I havent been able to work out where/what vernsion of mythtv has support for ''full mux recording'' type-concepts.... i.e. using 1 dvb stream for multple logical channels |
| [21:51:19] | nero: | mchou, so if he has, say HBO, SDef it wont be encrypted? |
| [21:51:27] | enyc: | I not sure which changelog or patch I should read |
| [21:51:30] | ** nero has fallen behind the times when it comes to firewire recording. ** | |
| [21:51:41] | mchou: | nero: you need to be much more specific for statements like that. Which cable provider, location, channel |
| [21:52:02] | nero: | mchou, also, are you sure charter has the firewire enabled on their boxes? My parents have charter, and you call them for anything, and they pretend they cant find their ass with both hands.. |
| [21:52:18] | nero: | mchou, just my point.. with firewire, it seems like there is an element of "surpise" ;) |
| [21:52:38] | mchou: | nero: that's all pretense. put the FCC statute in their face :) |
| [21:52:49] | nero: | just because you are paying for the channel, doesnt mean your provider will allow you to access it via FW. |
| [21:52:53] | mchou: | nero: there is no "surprise" |
| [21:53:01] | nero: | mchou, yeah.. we tried to do that with some of the cable modem stuff, and they laughed at us.. |
| [21:53:03] | mchou: | it's the friggin LAW |
| [21:53:38] | mchou: | nero: wtf are you referring to cable modems? What law regarding cable modems? |
| [21:53:43] | nero: | yeah.. and ask how many channels on Comcast people have trouble grabbing via FW, for various regions, that they *should* be able to get.. |
| [21:53:58] | nero: | mchou, it was a state law concerning where they could and could not offer them.. a few years ago.. |
| [21:54:05] | mchou: | nero: plenty of ppl have no fw issues w/comcast |
| [21:54:07] | niktaris_lap: | anyone know a channel guide for greece |
| [21:54:08] | niktaris_lap: | ? |
| [21:54:21] | hobophobe: | What is the benefit of firewire over coax? |
| [21:54:28] | magneticubuntu: | Guys: how do i uninstall IVTV so I can downgrade to older version? |
| [21:54:29] | hobophobe: | Less loss of signal? |
| [21:54:31] | nero: | they wanted to bascially charge my parents an exorbanant amout to "run the cables" to their house.. even though they were clearly within where it should be offered.. |
| [21:54:41] | hobophobe: | magneticubuntu, you should just use something like synaptic? |
| [21:54:48] | mchou: | hobophobe: trust me on this one. Night and day |
| [21:55:23] | nero: | mchou, yes.. plenty have no issues, but plenty DO have issues.. sure, there are laws in place, but until you see what your providor is "allowing" you to do with the media you bought, there are plenty of cases where people aren't getting what they should be "by law" |
| [21:55:31] | magneticubuntu: | hobophobe: its not a package? |
| [21:55:36] | mchou: | nero: "run the cables??" it's the same frigging cable as the coax that carries SD channels |
| [21:55:52] | hobophobe: | magneticubuntu, what is it? a kernel module? |
| [21:55:53] | nero: | mchou, yup.. it was a joke.. which IMHO is what Charter is.. |
| [21:56:03] | nero: | they are so full of crap, it is almost impossible to deal with them.. |
| [21:56:13] | mchou: | nero: where is this? |
| [21:56:23] | nero: | Rosemount MN.. |
| [21:56:25] | magneticubuntu: | hobophobe, yes |
| [21:56:34] | nero: | this was a few years ago.. was a COMPLETE nightmare.. |
| [21:56:47] | magneticubuntu: | hobophobe: its a kernel module yes – in /lib/modules |
| [21:57:00] | hobophobe: | nero, aye. if we had an alternative, we wouldn't be using them. We'd have to cut trees to get satellite, and the only other cable provider doesnt' have HD (my folks got a HD display is why we switched to them) |
| [21:57:04] | nero: | (and by "it was a joke" I dont mean what I said was in jest.. their operation was a joke) |
| [21:57:16] | mchou: | nero: I dont know anybody have issues w/ comcast except in Chicago an NY (where even SD is encrypted to prevent signal theft) |
| [21:57:28] | magneticubuntu: | hobophobe, how to uninstall the kernel module plz? |
| [21:57:51] | nero: | mchou, but why can they encrypt SD in NY and Chicago if it is a LAW??? |
| [21:58:10] | mchou: | nero: citys like NYC and Chicago have applied to FCC for exemptions |
| [21:58:20] | nero: | all I am saying, is I wouldn't trust ANY of the providors to supply you with the content you bought.. if they can, they get out of it.. |
| [21:58:26] | mchou: | nero: which is allowed by LAW |
| [21:58:40] | mchou: | nero: stop being such an idiot |
| [21:58:56] | magneticubuntu: | Guys: how can I uninstall IVTVplease? |
| [21:58:59] | mchou: | nero: you're tilting at windmills |
| [21:59:11] | nero: | but my entire point was that people have had problems.. you said "no, no one has problems with firewire" and just pointed out two major metropolitan areas where FW wont work.. |
| [21:59:25] | mchou: | nero: a few years ago FW was not law, anyways |
| [21:59:44] | hobophobe: | magneticubuntu, this seems to have information: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto#Load_the_modules |
| [21:59:47] | nero: | so yes.. people have had problems, and all I was saying, is that with Charter, and my experience with them, they dont seem to follow any laws.. |
| [21:59:59] | nero: | and so one should be careful before assuming firewire will work on their STB |
| [22:00:37] | mchou: | nero: careful? Wth, lease a FW STB for a month, you out $10 at most if it doesnt work |
| [22:01:09] | mchou: | as opposed to losing $60 for pvr-x50 which is shit picture-wise anyways |
| [22:01:26] | nero: | yeah.. and then if he wants his old box back so he doesnt have to do an ir blaster (which I think we'd all agree is not optimal) they'd tell him to pound sand.. |
| [22:01:28] | magneticubuntu: | hobophobe, thx |
| [22:01:41] | nero: | I'm not saying do one or the other.. I'm saying look into it, and make sure you can use firewire on the STB.. |
| [22:01:45] | mchou: | or close to $100 for a QAM/ATSC card |
| [22:01:59] | nero: | if you cant, go the PVR route.. if you can, then by all means, firewire is supperior.. |
| [22:02:15] | hobophobe: | hmm |
| [22:02:44] | mchou: | comcast only charges $5/mo to lease the FW STB |
| [22:02:54] | magneticubuntu: | mchou, and it works? |
| [22:03:15] | mchou: | I get DiscoveryHD, ESPNHD, and I'm not even "subscribed" to those |
| [22:03:32] | hobophobe: | I guess one thing I'm wondering is exactly what quality difference is there; for example my brother has pretty much same stb/provider and he's got a replay tv, hooked up coax. the quality seems just as good as live tv straight from stb? |
| [22:03:44] | mchou: | magneticubuntu: dude, why would I be advocating "go FW" if it didnt? |
| [22:04:08] | mchou: | also INHD (multiple channels) |
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| [22:04:17] | nero: | hobophobe, with a PVR card, you are taking a digital signal, converting it to analog with your STB, then converting it back to digital (with the PVR carD) |
| [22:04:33] | nero: | with the firewire you are going digital, and never converting back to analog.. |
| [22:04:44] | nero: | and yes, the firewire route will give you a much cleaner picture.. |
| [22:04:44] | hobophobe: | ah yeah |
| [22:05:04] | mchou: | hobophobe: think watching DVD except better :) |
| [22:05:18] | magneticubuntu: | nero: what drives the FW with Mythtv please? |
| [22:05:23] | hobophobe: | So with firewire would I still need a tv card, or could I just hook it straight to computer? |
| [22:05:46] | mchou: | hobophobe: you wont need no stinking tv card |
| [22:05:49] | nero: | so firewire is the optimal rout, but my 2 cents is that you either call Charter (probably wont get you too far) or ask on the mailing list if anyone in your area is using FW out with a charter box, to make sure it will work for you.. |
| [22:05:57] | magneticubuntu: | hobophobe, fyi alot of cable boxes FW is LOCKED |
| [22:05:59] | nero: | mchou would probably disagree with me, but oh well.. ;) |
| [22:06:11] | mchou: | magneticubuntu: huh??? |
| [22:06:38] | mchou: | magneticubuntu: by law it cant be locked for OTA stuff |
| [22:07:01] | mchou: | where are you dudes getting this crappy FUD? |
| [22:07:20] | jonK: | I thought it was grade A fud myself. |
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| [22:07:57] | magneticubuntu: | mchou, i've read it here by users |
| [22:08:01] | magneticubuntu: | its not fud |
| [22:08:07] | magneticubuntu: | and btw "fud" is a lame term |
| [22:08:17] | mchou: | guys, listen to jonK , he is an intellectual property attorney :) |
| [22:08:30] | jonK: | Now that's some FUD if i've ever head it |
| [22:08:31] | jonK: | heard |
| [22:08:38] | mchou: | jonK: haha!! |
| [22:09:38] | Zider: | magneticubuntu: what's lame about it? |
| [22:11:25] | kormoc: | magneticubuntu, yes, a lot of cable boxes are locked, but the FCC mandates that any HDTV Subscriber must be given fire wire access on request. |
| [22:11:38] | magneticubuntu: | zider: i'm not spread "fud" its what i heard |
| [22:11:40] | jonK: | kormoc, mythweb question? |
| [22:11:52] | magneticubuntu: | kormoc, ah on request SO it IS locked |
| [22:11:55] | kormoc: | jonK, shoot |
| [22:12:01] | hobophobe: | well my folks have HD, but the box I have is SD, so I don't know if that will apply? |
| [22:12:03] | kormoc: | magneticubuntu, some of them are, yes. some are not |
| [22:12:04] | magneticubuntu: | so there you go with "fud" nonsense |
| [22:12:09] | nero: | mchou, kormoc etc.. any info on how long this FCC mandate has been in effect? |
| [22:12:11] | magneticubuntu: | kormoc: thx |
| [22:12:17] | jonK: | I recently built new backend server on new board/processor |
| [22:12:21] | magneticubuntu: | ner0: oh now its not "fud" |
| [22:12:27] | mchou: | nero: I dunno, maybe 2 yrs now? |
| [22:12:30] | jonK: | have things mostly running, |
| [22:12:35] | kormoc: | nero, I think around 2 to 2.5 years or so |
| [22:12:47] | jonK: | but when i fisrt point a browser at mythweb |
| [22:12:59] | jonK: | it just sits there "waiting for site..." |
| [22:13:02] | jonK: | until i hit refresh |
| [22:13:05] | jonK: | then it loads fine |
| [22:13:12] | ** kormoc raises an eyebrow. ** | |
| [22:13:14] | nero: | cool.. Its not that I dont trust you guys, or the FCC mandate.. I am simply going off the horrible experience I have had with Charter doing anything for their customers regardless of the law.. |
| [22:13:18] | xris: | mchou: many cable boxes *are* locked, though. people going to court about it. |
| [22:13:18] | hobophobe: | The boxes were required to as of Mid 2005 |
| [22:13:28] | kormoc: | jonK, did you check the apache log files? |
| [22:13:35] | Zider: | for some reason I keep thinking about firewire as being optical.. :P |
| [22:13:36] | podzap: | i'm so glad i don't live in the usa |
| [22:13:37] | mchou: | xris: which is where the LAW comes in. |
| [22:14:00] | kormoc: | Zider, well, fire does put out light... :P |
| [22:14:02] | magneticubuntu: | nero: so you going to apoligize now? |
| [22:14:07] | Zider: | kormoc: exactly |
| [22:14:08] | hobophobe: | I really hate corporations for making things so damned complicated |
| [22:14:08] | jonK: | I didn't see anything odd, but will have to go back and look more closely |
| [22:14:17] | magneticubuntu: | the boxes ARE Locked so STOP recommending to users to forgo PVR cards |
| [22:14:18] | jonK: | i jsut scanned for something obvious |
| [22:14:30] | hobophobe: | magneticubuntu, s/ARE/might be |
| [22:14:43] | nero: | magneticubuntu, nothing to apologize for.. I was saying from the beginning, to simply check with others in your area to make sure your particular provider is following the law.. |
| [22:14:48] | jonK: | what should I be looking for? |
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| [22:15:09] | mchou: | magneticubuntu: you're a fool. the law is on your side in this case and you dont take advantage of it? |
| [22:15:09] | ru_: | lo all |
| [22:15:18] | ru_: | my recordings are massive, how can i get them down in size? |
| [22:15:24] | kormoc: | magneticubuntu, honestly, a ton of people have switched to firewire without any issues at all, it's not usually that hard at all |
| [22:15:28] | ru_: | I have tried telling myth to transcode them, but it doesnt listen |
| [22:15:39] | ru_: | can you re-encode? |
| [22:15:43] | pushpop`: | ru_ thats just the way it is |
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| [22:16:10] | xris: | mchou: yes. but like I said, people are *still* fighting it in court. |
| [22:16:14] | Anduin: | ru_: Fix the transcode problem or adjust your recording settings or watch short shows. |
| [22:16:19] | jonK: | kormoc? I should look for _____? |
| [22:16:19] | kormoc: | ru_, you can export via nuvexport |
| [22:16:23] | magneticubuntu: | mchou, i'm a fool? have you ever dealt with telecoms? are you a moron? |
| [22:16:33] | podzap: | for christs sake, just move to europe :-) |
| [22:16:36] | Zider: | I'll be getting a PCI card because I like to have everything in the same case without firewire cables to boxes and stuff.. :P |
| [22:16:40] | magneticubuntu: | they DONT WANT YOU TO CONTROL CONTENT |
| [22:16:42] | magneticubuntu: | hello? |
| [22:16:46] | mchou: | magneticubuntu: lol. I used to work at a telecom |
| [22:16:52] | magneticubuntu: | mchou, you should know then |
| [22:17:02] | kormoc: | jonK, well, make sure it's getting the first connection, and make sure it's not giving a error, so check the access_log and error_log |
| [22:17:09] | mchou: | magneticubuntu: yes, I know better than you, that's for sure |
| [22:17:11] | jonK: | I've sued a telecom |
| [22:17:23] | hobophobe: | Did you win? |
| [22:17:25] | xris: | jonK: you're a lawyer, though. |
| [22:17:25] | mchou: | jonK: did you win? :) |
| [22:17:31] | jonK: | ongoing |
| [22:17:51] | nero: | jonK, and if you were a mere mortal, how much in lawyers fees would it have cost you? |
| [22:17:52] | mchou: | jonK: does it look like you're going to prevail? :) |
| [22:17:54] | nero: | ;) |
| [22:18:23] | magneticubuntu: | mchou, i bow down to your godliness |
| [22:18:27] | jonK: | if by prevail you mean, "make out like bandit" ... I certainly hope so |
| [22:18:31] | magneticubuntu: | dont be an idiot you dont know me or what i dot so stfu |
| [22:18:50] | Zider: | what's the difference, "performance wise" between firewire to a box and having an internal pci card? are there any or is it exactly the same thing when it comes to just using it? |
| [22:19:02] | magneticubuntu: | what did you do support desk? get a clue i'm not going to name drop like you and go to your level |
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| [22:19:07] | kormoc: | Zider, it's quality more then performance |
| [22:19:18] | Zider: | kormoc: like bad pictur? |
| [22:19:18] | mchou: | jonK: nah, Boies on SCO is prolly making out like a bandit |
| [22:19:19] | kormoc: | Zider, firewire from the box is a direct from the cable co ditial stream |
| [22:19:19] | Zider: | e |
| [22:19:30] | hobophobe: | From what I can tell the firewire is an mpeg stream, meaning that all it's really got to do is write it down. |
| [22:19:35] | hobophobe: | err mpeg2 |
| [22:19:48] | Zider: | hobophobe: isn't that the case with a pci card? |
| [22:19:49] | xris: | yup. mpeg2 TS |
| [22:19:53] | mchou: | jonK: too bad his law career is gonna be over after IBM wins :) |
| [22:19:54] | jonK: | and on a completly unrealted question... what are the better cards to use for mythtv right now, encoding and playback |
| [22:20:08] | kormoc: | Zider, passing that digital stream though something like a pvr 150 involves taking that mpeg2 stream from the cable co, converting it to analog via the cable box, sending it to the pvr 150, which re-encodes to mpeg2 |
| [22:20:10] | jonK: | I know one of the lawyers representing IBM in that case |
| [22:20:11] | xris: | jonK: for what medium? |
| [22:20:17] | hobophobe: | Zider, when the signal goes to coax out, it is analog again, so no |
| [22:20:18] | jonK: | just cable -- |
| [22:20:31] | jonK: | I need to replace the svideo out of one frontend |
| [22:20:46] | kormoc: | jonK, pvr-150/500 is what most people seem to like, with a nvidia for playback |
| [22:20:47] | Zider: | kormoc: ..so I need a box even if I get a pci card? |
| [22:20:56] | kormoc: | Zider, for ditital/hd, yes |
| [22:21:01] | jonK: | do i need a fancy nvidia card? |
| [22:21:05] | kormoc: | unless you're gonna do over the air stuff |
| [22:21:13] | Zider: | kormoc: I thought the card did the job of the box |
| [22:21:24] | jonK: | and 150/500's are still the best for encoding? |
| [22:21:34] | kormoc: | jonK, the pvr 150/500's don't do tv-out, so you would need something to send it out, aye |
| [22:21:38] | podzap: | i have a digital pci card (dvb-c) with conax cam, and i play it straight to my minimyth front-end |
| [22:21:46] | jonK: | I know, I have 2 pvr500s and a 350 now |
| [22:21:57] | ru_: | what is nuvexport |
| [22:21:58] | kormoc: | Zider, not at all, they just take a analog signal and encode it, the box takes the encrypted digital signal and converts it to a playable format |
| [22:22:01] | jonK: | just wondering if new/better hardware was avilable |
| [22:22:03] | podzap: | why do you guys still use that analog stuff? |
| [22:22:09] | ru_: | So you telling me I'm stuck with the size of these recordings? |
| [22:22:16] | ru_: | hmm I gotta reduce their size somehow |
| [22:22:19] | jonK: | podzap: easy, multiple tuners |
| [22:22:19] | xris: | jonK: for "out" — nvidia 5200 or 6200 is good |
| [22:22:20] | kormoc: | ru_, google it and you'd find a lot of mayches |
| [22:22:28] | Zider: | kormoc: hmm, a digital card takes an analog signal..? |
| [22:22:28] | ru_: | ok firstly how do I stop new recordings from being that size? |
| [22:22:39] | kormoc: | *matches |
| [22:22:51] | GreyFoxx: | ru_: What kind of capture card? And what size do you consider too big ? |
| [22:23:02] | kormoc: | Zider, ooh, you mean a DVB card? you can't get one of them that will do digital cable due to the encryption |
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| [22:23:11] | jonK: | hmm... "what size do you consider big" |
| [22:23:17] | jonK: | no chance to quote that out of context |
| [22:23:25] | Zider: | kormoc: ahh crap.. I just want antenna cable to the mythbox and record programs.. :P |
| [22:23:31] | podzap: | jonK: i live in finland, and they will stop broadcasting analog next year, period. |
| [22:23:34] | GreyFoxx: | jonK:Go right ahead, I don't mind :) |
| [22:23:35] | Zider: | kormoc: without any bloody box :P |
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| [22:24:08] | jonK: | stop "broadcasting" or putting analog signal over cable |
| [22:24:30] | podzap: | jonK: air, cable, everything. no more analog. |
| [22:24:37] | jonK: | interesting |
| [22:24:39] | ru_: | GreyFoxx: Well for about an hour of tv it takes up 2GB |
| [22:24:53] | GreyFoxx: | ru_: That sounds about normal for people using PVR cards |
| [22:24:54] | ru_: | GreyFoxx: I have hauppage pvr350 |
| [22:24:56] | jonK: | ru_ that sounds about right |
| [22:24:59] | GreyFoxx: | mine are about 2.2G an hour |
| [22:25:03] | ru_: | GreyFoxx: I want it smaller |
| [22:25:04] | mchou: | podzap: well, finland is certainly further ahead than US in that respect |
| [22:25:17] | GreyFoxx: | If you want to lower it you can either lower your bitrate, or enable auto transcoding |
| [22:25:17] | podzap: | mchou: as in most respects |
| [22:25:25] | Zider: | kormoc: there's no way at all to have the pc decrypt it then? |
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| [22:25:26] | jonK: | another one "I want it smaller" |
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| [22:25:35] | mchou: | podzap: yup :) except the weather :) |
| [22:25:37] | jonK: | I seem to just have smut-mind today |
| [22:25:49] | ru_: | GreyFoxx: What would be ideal would be that shows >7 days get transcoded again – smaller |
| [22:25:54] | jonK: | ru_ why not get just more storage space? |
| [22:25:54] | mchou: | jonK: you always do :) |
| [22:25:55] | ru_: | is that possible? |
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| [22:25:59] | ru_: | I have 400GB |
| [22:26:04] | podzap: | mchou: god damned global warming. finland just isn't cold anymore :-( |
| [22:26:10] | GreyFoxx: | ru_: there is no mechanism in myth for that |
| [22:26:16] | ru_: | damn |
| [22:26:22] | GreyFoxx: | It's either manually tell it to transcode, setup auto transcoding |
| [22:26:28] | GreyFoxx: | or do it externally with something like nuvexport |
| [22:26:32] | ru_: | Oh well i'm sure I can get something that transcodes them further every week or something |
| [22:26:47] | jonK: | chron job + script based on file dates |
| [22:26:48] | ru_: | setup auto transcoding? |
| [22:26:50] | GreyFoxx: | You could of course write something your self to initiate the transcoding |
| [22:27:09] | GreyFoxx: | ru_: Yes, myth will auto transcode stuff right after it's recorded if you set it up |
| [22:27:22] | ru_: | GreyFoxx: how do I check that? |
| [22:27:30] | ru_: | recording profiles? |
| [22:27:36] | GreyFoxx: | It's somewhere in there |
| [22:28:02] | LLyric: | Maaan, timezones suck. I had to get up at 6am on a Saturday (today) to sort out a problem with a developer in Utah |
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| [22:28:56] | mchou: | LLyric: was it SCO? :) |
| [22:29:01] | ** LLyric chuckles ** | |
| [22:29:01] | podzap: | LLyric: if i have a phone conference with somebody in california, i have to do it at 6–7 PM, as they aren't awake before that... |
| [22:29:24] | kormoc: | Zider, aye, it's illegal to de-encrypt and thus, not something myth will ever do |
| [22:29:45] | Zider: | kormoc: I see.. :/ |
| [22:30:19] | podzap: | illegal is an ambiguous term |
| [22:30:19] | Zider: | dammit.. I was hoping I could do without a freakin' box.. :/ |
| [22:30:23] | jonK: | "de-encrypt" |
| [22:30:25] | LLyric: | There's a cool world clock thing at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ – and a meeting planner, where you put in the location of all parties, and it shows when are the sane times to have a meeting |
| [22:30:26] | jonK: | ? |
| [22:30:44] | podzap: | what is illegal where you live is perfectly legal where i live |
| [22:30:45] | ru_: | how do i tell if its already been transcoded though guys ? |
| [22:30:54] | jonK: | did it get smaller |
| [22:31:01] | mchou: | jonK: lol |
| [22:31:11] | xris: | podzap: most mythtv devs are in the US, the project is hosted in the US, it follows US laws. |
| [22:31:12] | GreyFoxx: | ru_: What kind of capture card > |
| [22:31:29] | jonK: | I wouldn't go making that last assertion |
| [22:31:32] | mchou: | podzap: feel feel to fork :) |
| [22:31:47] | podzap: | :-) |
| [22:31:50] | mchou: | podzap: feel free to fork :) |
| [22:32:06] | podzap: | "finn-tv" |
| [22:32:15] | mchou: | podzap: maybe you can be the next DVD Jon :) |
| [22:32:19] | jonK: | does it matter what card I use if I want to move to the GL painter? |
| [22:32:34] | jonK: | and for mythgames? (which I've never used) |
| [22:32:42] | podzap: | mchou: i'm too damned old to be interested in infamy |
| [22:33:05] | Zider: | jonK: depends what games you wanna launch with mythgames ;P |
| [22:33:08] | mchou: | podzap: yet not too old to be interested in TV :) |
| [22:33:31] | GreyFoxx: | jonK: overall your linux life will likely be less hassle with an nvidia card |
| [22:33:39] | podzap: | mchou: of course not, tv is for lazy people :-) |
| [22:33:57] | jonK: | I was at nvidia two weeks ago |
| [22:34:19] | mchou: | podzap: you fins cant do anything else except fish and watch TV, maybe a lil sex if you're lucky :) |
| [22:34:26] | mchou: | finns* |
| [22:34:29] | Zider: | the new drivers are really nice :D |
| [22:34:37] | jonK: | and I just recently had to buy a new video card, "Prey" would not run on the ATI |
| [22:34:49] | mchou: | jonK: you kidding me |
| [22:34:54] | jonK: | which part? |
| [22:35:05] | mchou: | prey would not run on ATI |
| [22:35:16] | jonK: | not on the particular card I have |
| [22:35:39] | ru_: | GreyFoxx: I have a hauppage PVR350 |
| [22:35:40] | mchou: | jonK: which ATI card was that? |
| [22:35:50] | jonK: | i think a 6800 or something |
| [22:36:04] | mchou: | jonK: huh?? |
| [22:36:06] | jonK: | about 2 years old |
| [22:36:15] | mchou: | I thought 6800 was nvidia |
| [22:36:16] | GreyFoxx: | ru_: Well, before being transcoded they are .mpg files, after (if you use mythtranscode) they will be .nuv |
| [22:36:34] | jonK: | I really don't recall |
| [22:36:40] | ru_: | yeah they are mpg files |
| [22:36:51] | ru_: | I guess my transcoding aint working then... |
| [22:36:57] | ru_: | .nuv files – eeuw! |
| [22:37:12] | ru_: | what do i need to install for mythtranscode to work? |
| [22:37:16] | Zider: | nipple-video ;) |
| [22:37:29] | GreyFoxx: | ru_: If you installed myth you have what you need foir mythtranscode |
| [22:37:32] | GreyFoxx: | you just need to enable it |
| [22:37:36] | GreyFoxx: | IE, it's not on by default |
| [22:37:58] | jonK: | ru_ type "mtd" from command prompt |
| [22:38:02] | ru_: | http://prettymad.net/tips/convert_mythtv_nuv_divx sweet can convert .nuv > .avi |
| [22:38:11] | ru_: | kk |
| [22:38:15] | xris: | ru_: um, that's what nuvexport is for |
| [22:38:16] | GreyFoxx: | There is also a nuv2avi app too |
| [22:38:27] | Anduin: | jonK: mtd is only for mythdvd |
| [22:38:40] | ru_: | mtd started at Sat Sep 2 00:38:03 2006 |
| [22:38:41] | jonK: | oh... did not know that |
| [22:38:47] | ru_: | yeah it seems to be doing some dvd voodoo :p |
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| [22:38:50] | jonK: | I thought it handled all transcoding for myth |
| [22:39:03] | jonK: | ru_ don't type "mtd" |
| [22:39:07] | Zider: | what you do, is like voodoo |
| [22:39:11] | Zider: | *sings* |
| [22:39:13] | podzap: | i wish i could watch cartoon network with only _one_ spoken language... maybe i have to compile that damned svn trunk... |
| [22:39:42] | jonK: | also, in frontend, how do i switch to the fancy program guide overlay? |
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| [22:41:07] | ru_: | ok so whats wrong with my mythtanscode then? |
| [22:41:10] | jonK: | buehler.... buehler... |
| [22:41:18] | ru_: | Its clearly doing nadaa |
| [22:41:27] | GreyFoxx: | ru_: Then you don't have it configured |
| [22:41:35] | ru_: | but i do |
| [22:41:40] | GreyFoxx: | AND if you do enable it then it will apply to new recordings, not to your existing ones |
| [22:41:43] | ru_: | where do i confirm? |
| [22:42:02] | jonK: | any way to definitively determine if a pvr350 has gone bad? |
| [22:42:05] | GreyFoxx: | if you want it to transcode existing stuff oyu have to do it on each show I believe |
| [22:42:06] | ru_: | u can manually transcode old stuff though, go to watch recordings > info > jobs > begin transcoding |
| [22:42:11] | ru_: | ya |
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| [22:42:20] | ru_: | ok, but even that doesnt work |
| [22:42:47] | jonK: | I think my pvr350 whent stb on me |
| [22:42:55] | GreyFoxx: | I can only suggest looking at the job queue statusunder the status screen |
| [22:42:56] | jonK: | this makes me sad |
| [22:43:05] | ru_: | i tried that |
| [22:43:07] | ru_: | nothing there |
| [22:43:15] | GreyFoxx: | I usually consider transcoding a waste of CPU so I never really use it |
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| [22:43:34] | jonK: | you hoarding cpu greyfoxx? |
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| [22:44:05] | Kabutor: | hi, is there a way to use mythtvideo plugin and have like two "subfolders" one for kids movies and other for parents one? |
| [22:44:14] | GreyFoxx: | I don't feel the need to archive every single show I record, so no use transcoding everything |
| [22:44:23] | Kabutor: | I have like 50 kids videos and its impossible to look for my videos in that mess |
| [22:44:28] | GreyFoxx: | in fact I rarely keep anything I record after I've watched it |
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| [22:44:52] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: Enable file browsing, and just place the files in seperate directories |
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| [22:44:58] | jonK: | Kabutor, yes, if you create folders in the root video folder |
| [22:45:09] | jonK: | the interface will let you browse into |
| [22:45:19] | Kabutor: | I have folders. but later all the videos show in the same boxes.. |
| [22:45:27] | Kabutor: | enable file browsing? how? |
| [22:45:36] | jonK: | I just put folders in |
| [22:45:39] | jonK: | the root dir |
| [22:45:45] | GreyFoxx: | throw chicken bones at the pc under a blood moon |
| [22:45:53] | Kabutor: | :) |
| [22:46:02] | jonK: | "porn --> lesbian porn, regular porn" |
| [22:46:03] | GreyFoxx: | OR look through the video settings menus :) |
| [22:46:05] | jonK: | that sort of thing |
| [22:46:10] | niktaris_lap: | I have a bt878 card. what do I put in "Card type" ? |
| [22:46:20] | GreyFoxx: | niktaris_lap: v4l |
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| [22:46:52] | Kabutor: | Oh, I have a look.. I have like 40 sesame street videos and I spend like 10 minutes looking for a SG atlantis chapter in the mess |
| [22:46:56] | jonK: | now I have some chiken bones, but I'm a little unclear about "blood moon" |
| [22:47:13] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: I have 80 or so directories with everything sorted |
| [22:47:22] | niktaris_lap: | GreyFoxx, thanks did it but does not seem to work. module load ok. How do I check that the setttings are correct? |
| [22:47:55] | jonK: | kabutor do you mean recorded programs? |
| [22:47:55] | Anduin: | Kabutor: You will need to enable browse files in 0.19 to get a real folder view. |
| [22:48:09] | GreyFoxx: | niktaris_lap: looka at the output of mythbackend when you try to access it |
| [22:48:13] | jonK: | i was speaking to recorded dvd videos |
| [22:48:20] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't used one of those cards in years now |
| [22:48:22] | Kabutor: | I mean mythvideo fpluign files |
| [22:48:44] | Kabutor: | Is in general setup 2/2 screen ? |
| [22:49:26] | Anduin: | Kabutor: Something like that, the "blahs view browses files" |
| [22:49:41] | Kabutor: | The problem is I have that in spanish |
| [22:49:54] | Kabutor: | browser list files? |
| [22:50:06] | jonK: | and as long as I'm here... mplayer thinks office space is only 5:29 long |
| [22:50:17] | jonK: | but i've watched it and it's much longer |
| [22:50:37] | Anduin: | It only counts the bits you'll have a chance of remembering. |
| [22:50:43] | Zider: | kormoc: what about one of them dvb-cards with card reader, would that be illegal as well? |
| [22:51:03] | Kabutor: | but did I have to change the default view from gallery to other one? |
| [22:51:04] | kormoc: | afaik, none of them have linux drivers |
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| [22:51:31] | jonK: | "card readaer?" |
| [22:51:36] | Anduin: | Kabutor: Use whatever view you like, just make sure you have the browse option on for it. |
| [22:51:40] | Zider: | kormoc: I just talked to a guy on another network that is using a twinham hybrid (analog+digital) in mythtv.. |
| [22:52:41] | kormoc: | with digital cable? |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | you can use dvb cards with free to air satalites and over the air stuff too, just not with cable |
| [22:53:24] | Kabutor: | Ive done it |
| [22:53:28] | jonK: | I think I'm going to switch to xine for playback and see if it works any better |
| [22:53:28] | Kabutor: | thank you very much! |
| [22:53:49] | Kabutor: | Th option is called Gallerie view list files or that translated to spanish |
| [22:54:03] | GreyFoxx: | But you can use some with digital cable thatis broadcast in the clear. Hence allof the airfire an dvicofusion cards |
| [22:54:23] | Zider: | kormoc: he uses it for both digital and analog, but don't have any pay-channels to try it with.. but if the card has a reader, it must be legal to access it for decrypting the channels, right..? |
| [22:54:45] | jonK: | any way to know what my provider might be sending as digital in the clear? |
| [22:55:00] | scopeuk: | ask them |
| [22:55:02] | GreyFoxx: | jonK: Yeah,buy one of those cards and scan for unencrypted channels :) |
| [22:55:03] | scopeuk: | or google |
| [22:55:09] | kormoc: | Zider, my understanding is that with the DCMA, it's very tricky, perhaps jonK can help with that one |
| [22:55:17] | jonK: | Zider: is he paying for the content of the pay channel |
| [22:55:38] | scopeuk: | doesent dmca have provisions for reverse engineering for the purpose of writing interoperabel software |
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| [22:56:37] | jonK: | The exception allows reverse engineering of computer programs if the reverse engineer lawfully obtains the program, seeks permission from the copyright owner, only uses the results of their efforts to create an interoperable computer program and does not publish the results. |
| [22:56:52] | Zider: | jonK: that's what I was thinking, it must be legal to decode channels you pay for |
| [22:57:07] | jonK: | not exactly... |
| [22:57:09] | GreyFoxx: | Zider: No, it's not. |
| [22:57:17] | scopeuk: | jonK fair enough i dont pretend to be an expert in the area i know thats how th exbxo hackers get away with alot of it though |
| [22:57:20] | GreyFoxx: | They get to choose the method of delivery and decryption |
| [22:57:36] | GreyFoxx: | You pay for access to the channel VIA their equipment |
| [22:57:41] | GreyFoxx: | not through any means possible |
| [22:57:53] | jonK: | they get away from it becase (1) costly to stop and (2) not hurting MS proftit and (3) they aren't making money off it (mostly) |
| [22:58:22] | Zider: | GreyFoxx: hm, so why would anyone make a dvb-card with card reader if it's illegal to use anyway..? |
| [22:58:31] | Zider: | it just sounds a bit weird |
| [22:58:36] | jonK: | extra-U.S. market |
| [22:58:44] | GreyFoxx: | Zider: Cause it's a pretty big planet with awide variety of laws ? |
| [22:58:50] | poonj: | hey guys, anyone here setup a software RAID in linux? |
| [22:59:02] | jonK: | no |
| [22:59:05] | poonj: | would you guys suggest setting up a RAID-1 mirror for Swap? |
| [22:59:09] | poonj: | fysa, are you there? |
| [22:59:10] | GreyFoxx: | And because there is NOTHING stopping a provider from allowing you to use a DVB card to access their service |
| [22:59:23] | GreyFoxx: | In europe dvb with cams is much more common |
| [22:59:25] | jonK: | but nothing requireing them to |
| [22:59:34] | podzap: | i have a dvb-c with cam |
| [22:59:39] | kormoc: | poonj, why bother mirroring swap? |
| [22:59:55] | kormoc: | poonj, it'd be better to take two swap partitions and stripe them so it's faster imho |
| [23:00:26] | roger55: | kormoc, isn't that default behaviour even without setting up a raid? |
| [23:00:46] | poonj: | kormoc, would the computer boot |
| [23:00:47] | kormoc: | roger55, depends on how they're setup in the fstab, but it can be, aye |
| [23:00:50] | poonj: | without a swap partition? |
| [23:00:57] | kormoc: | poonj, sure. swap is purely optional |
| [23:01:00] | poonj: | ifokay |
| [23:01:04] | poonj: | jus wanted to make sure.. |
| [23:01:07] | poonj: | then I'll run a RAID-0 |
| [23:01:11] | kormoc: | poonj, my webserver has no swap, and the rest of my boxes use a swap file |
| [23:01:18] | poonj: | gotcha |
| [23:01:21] | Zider: | GreyFoxx: this is starting to give me a headache.. ;) |
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| [23:03:17] | scopeuk: | zider quickist way to find out if they will let you do it is to email or ring tech suport and ask |
| [23:03:34] | scopeuk: | although your likely to get some rarther confused poor scripted sap a few times |
| [23:03:40] | Zider: | ;) |
| [23:03:49] | niktaris_lap: | can I manually add a channel ? |
| [23:04:23] | Zider: | I kinda suspected that it might be legal in some places but not everywhere.. |
| [23:05:30] | jonK: | I love tech support-- "I'm not sure if our high speed internet works with linux" |
| [23:06:19] | jonK: | to qoute a comcast representative who recently hooked up cable internet for me |
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| [23:08:38] | niktaris_lap: | can I use myth tv to wath tv without xml ? |
| [23:09:33] | scopeuk: | yeh my ip dont support linux or routers |
| [23:09:38] | kormoc: | without xml? |
| [23:09:40] | scopeuk: | although they do a home networking kit |
| [23:09:51] | scopeuk: | do you mean xmltv? |
| [23:10:07] | Zider: | jonK: my ISP couldn't tell me my static IP that I paid extra for, because I didn't run windows.. :P |
| [23:10:24] | mchou: | scopeuk: cause a router is not cableco equipment :) |
| [23:10:36] | mchou: | Zider: haha!! |
| [23:10:52] | jonK: | but they assigned it |
| [23:10:59] | scopeuk: | mchou no becouse a router whould involve trainign tech suport to deal with routers |
| [23:11:19] | mchou: | Zider: so were you able to obatin the static ip from them? |
| [23:12:01] | mchou: | scopeuk: right, but why train ppl to deal w/ stuff that not theirs in the first place? |
| [23:12:21] | scopeuk: | they donteven train them to deal with theres |
| [23:12:30] | Zider: | mchou: yes, I convinced them (him) that I didn't need help to fill in network settings in windows, I just needed to know THE DAMN IP ;) |
| [23:12:30] | jonK: | they only train them to not let you cance |
| [23:12:31] | jonK: | l |
| [23:12:43] | mchou: | Zider: lol |
| [23:13:00] | scopeuk: | hell if you tell themthat the lslow speed oyur experienceing isent spy warebecouse your testing on a live cd linux distro they will tell you thats the problem becouse it isett officialy suported and only windows bassed systems can fully work on there network |
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| [23:13:09] | jonK: | I went the rounds with one of the assclowns for some reason once |
| [23:13:19] | mchou: | jonK: lol |
| [23:13:21] | jonK: | all i wanted her to do was admit that I was getting a raw deal |
| [23:13:28] | Zider: | mchou: I think I must have the lousiest ISP in sweden.. and probably many other countries.. |
| [23:13:39] | jonK: | go ahead and screw me, but juat admit that you're screwing me |
| [23:13:45] | mchou: | jonK: bah, you're one argumentitive lawyer |
| [23:13:59] | jonK: | and stop touting how i in fact benefit from said screwing |
| [23:14:05] | scopeuk: | lol your taking the pi$$ right? |
| [23:14:19] | mchou: | jonK: she wasnt the one scewing ya, otherwise you wouldnt have been complaining :) |
| [23:14:20] | scopeuk: | i dotn bother with my isp tech suport |
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| [23:14:24] | enterusername: | hi all |
| [23:14:26] | jonK: | "I understand your're feeling upset" |
| [23:14:29] | mchou: | screwing* |
| [23:14:30] | scopeuk: | i jsut asume something is fucked and reboot every thing |
| [23:14:36] | jonK: | jesus while thank your for validating my pain |
| [23:14:41] | enterusername: | is mythcomm suppose to take up to 100% cpu usage |
| [23:14:46] | enterusername: | even when im not watching tv |
| [23:14:55] | scopeuk: | myth comm runs after a recording |
| [23:14:55] | enterusername: | for video? |
| [23:14:56] | jonK: | no |
| [23:14:59] | jonK: | thats very very bad |
| [23:15:01] | enterusername: | hmm |
| [23:15:05] | enterusername: | im using 0.19 fixes |
| [23:15:10] | enterusername: | and its been at 100% allday |
| [23:15:11] | enterusername: | :( |
| [23:15:18] | Anduin: | jonK: It is what they learn in soft-skills classes for dealing with irate customers. |
| [23:15:24] | enterusername: | maybe its not the latest.. |
| [23:15:41] | enterusername: | I'll see if i can do an update.. What would cuase it to be at 100%? |
| [23:15:44] | jonK: | enter, mythcomm takes a file after it's recorded and tries to identify beginning and ending of commercial breaks |
| [23:15:52] | enterusername: | oh |
| [23:15:59] | kormoc: | or if you set it to transcode |
| [23:16:00] | enterusername: | then why the heck is it running :) |
| [23:16:03] | scopeuk: | if your not using it jsu turn it off |
| [23:16:19] | jonK: | if it really ahs been running for hours, i'd kill it |
| [23:16:33] | enterusername: | oh ok |
| [23:16:40] | enterusername: | ill see if updating to latest version fixes it |
| [23:16:49] | enterusername: | so i kill the process? no shutdown script? |
| [23:16:53] | jonK: | i wasn't irate, I was quite calm, I just wanted her to admit that something that so clearly sucked, in fact sucked |
| [23:17:03] | jonK: | instead she's trying to convince me that water is in fact not wet |
| [23:17:16] | mchou: | jonK: what was the sucky thing you're refusing to tell us? |
| [23:17:21] | jonK: | all through the preapproved script |
| [23:17:28] | jonK: | i dont recall |
| [23:17:31] | mchou: | lol |
| [23:17:39] | jonK: | and please for the love of god stop plus selling to me |
| [23:17:54] | mchou: | jonK: it was such a good screwing you didnt even recall it :) |
| [23:17:54] | jonK: | have you heard about crappy product x? |
| [23:18:06] | enterusername: | oh just put them on hold |
| [23:18:08] | enterusername: | and leave them there :) |
| [23:18:33] | jonK: | I'm calling for something completely different, but please by all means, tell me about crappy product x |
| [23:18:33] | mchou: | enterusername: heh |
| [23:19:12] | enterusername: | thank you :) I am off to kill that crappy process :) |
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| [23:19:14] | mchou: | enterusername: you dont bother with the "Do Not Call List" routine? |
| [23:19:30] | jonK: | this is when I'm calling them |
| [23:19:51] | jonK: | as long as you're calling to cancel, perhaps you'd like to hear about our new long distance service |
| [23:20:05] | mchou: | jonK: lol |
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| [23:21:32] | jonK: | the last time i called i was greeted with "how my I provide you with excellent service today?" |
| [23:21:42] | jonK: | first, how freaking artifical and gay does that sound? |
| [23:21:54] | jonK: | second, my resposne "please don't try to sell me anything or talk to me from a script" |
| [23:22:12] | jonK: | I think it confused her. |
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| [23:22:39] | Zider: | seems like the twinhan pci-cards with card reader are supported by v4l.. nice.. :D |
| [23:22:41] | scopeuk: | well my isp now has tech suport in india so skippign parts of the script is forbident |
| [23:23:00] | scopeuk: | jsut say ok i know my sysxtem is fine can we get onto tellign me how you screwed up gets you straight back to step one |
| [23:23:15] | scopeuk: | complaining eough gets you through to someone who actaully has a clue eventually though |
| [23:23:30] | jonK: | "yes hello, its a very fine day, my name is "bob jones" may i help you sir? |
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| [23:23:53] | scopeuk: | yeh |
| [23:24:18] | scopeuk: | hell they even have people blatently indian whopretend to be in english and use english sounding sudonims when you ask to escalate |
| [23:24:23] | Zider: | jonK: "hello, this is Fill In Your name Here at My Company, can I help you?" ;) |
| [23:24:35] | Wescotte: | I'm trying to get lirc working with my creative cimr-1000 serial IR receiver and irrecord always responds with "irrecord: unknown code" even if I use the offical creative remote. However if I use the default creative config for the remote all the buttons work. Any ideas? |
| [23:24:53] | jonK: | ues the creative official remote |
| [23:25:13] | gardengnome: | i think you can use existing lircd.conf files as a template for irrecord |
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| [23:25:28] | root_: | hey |
| [23:25:31] | root_: | erjk |
| [23:25:33] | root_: | sorry |
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| [23:25:38] | radi0head: | IRCing as root, rofl. |
| [23:25:45] | mchou: | heh |
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| [23:25:56] | EnterUserName: | hello |
| [23:25:57] | Wescotte: | gardengnome: I want to use a different remote.. I know it works because I used to run it w/ girder in windows |
| [23:26:08] | EnterUserName: | What is mythcommflag? It runs at 100% constantly everytime i start up mythbackend |
| [23:26:23] | scopeuk: | havent we jsut had this conversation? |
| [23:26:23] | radi0head: | EnterUserName; Why IRCing as root? |
| [23:26:26] | EnterUserName: | lol |
| [23:26:31] | EnterUserName: | thats why i came back |
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| [23:27:29] | jonK: | it has a lot to do? |
| [23:27:54] | jonK: | and no time to waste |
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| [23:28:04] | enterusername: | I apologize for that :( |
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| [23:29:57] | medwards: | Hey guys, I know this has, at best, a tertiary relationship to the project... but Gnome won't start anymore (gdm, fine, X, fine, no gnome :( ) |
| [23:30:13] | medwards: | I have a pastebin and not much else to go on... |
| [23:30:21] | medwards: | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284 |
| [23:31:55] | radi0head: | Looks like a syntax error in the file: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55gnome-session_gnomerc It wight have been modified somehow? |
| [23:31:57] | remedy (remedy!n=remedy@82.153.31.9) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:32:11] | radi0head: | medwards; Might be better off asking in #ubuntu. |
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| [23:32:29] | medwards: | not really. |
| [23:33:12] | medwards: | They basically only answer noobs who don't have their act together... apparently providing people with error messages prepackaged and being prepared to do what is requested means I am NOT deserving of support. |
| [23:33:13] | radi0head: | medwards; Have you tried #gnome? |
| [23:33:16] | medwards: | ... |
| [23:33:24] | medwards: | I'm in #gnome, #ubuntu |
| [23:33:25] | medwards: | no dice |
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| [23:33:34] | radi0head: | They have no clue in #gnome? |
| [23:33:39] | medwards: | do you mean #gnome on free node or irc.gnome.org? |
| [23:33:47] | medwards: | It's just a bunch of idlers |
| [23:33:54] | medwards: | noone has responded as of yet. |
| [23:34:04] | radi0head: | I meant on freenode. |
| [23:34:05] | TTT_Travis: | Hi, I have a bare minimim system installed on a slower computer that I want to use as a mythtv frontend what do you I need to install? |
| [23:34:11] | TTT_Travis: | do I need Xorg? |
| [23:34:15] | TTT_Travis: | or just certain parts? |
| [23:34:20] | gardengnome: | "fix my software! it's broken! i've paid lots of.. oh, wait a second." |
| [23:34:31] | TTT_Travis: | this is a slow computer so I want to keep ram use to a min. |
| [23:34:47] | medwards: | I'll try the freenode gnome channel |
| [23:35:08] | radi0head: | medwards; Find out which package installed the file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55gnome-session_gnomerc and reinstall that package. |
| [23:35:11] | Aid`: | yay packers lost! |
| [23:36:08] | TTT_Travis: | hmm |
| [23:36:24] | Aid`: | i have a question... for some reason i can't seem to be able to play HD tv recordings.. i can only when they are resized to a SDTV screen size |
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| [23:37:24] | jonK: | So far that's not a question |
| [23:37:27] | hobophobe: | I can't tell whether cable providers are required to furnish standard def. firewire-enabled, or only HD? |
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| [23:37:49] | hobophobe: | Anyone here live in Alabama? |
| [23:37:59] | Aid`: | ....i was wondering is that because my cpu is too slow, nvidia card is too old?? |
| [23:38:17] | TTT_Travis: | what card/cpu |
| [23:39:01] | Aid`: | 0000:00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1) |
| [23:39:04] | Aid`: | i dont know how to check cpu |
| [23:39:18] | jonK: | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| [23:39:24] | TTT_Travis: | card seems like it would be good enough |
| [23:39:30] | Aid`: | model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ |
| [23:39:34] | TTT_Travis: | yeah you're good |
| [23:39:37] | jonK: | I have one of those |
| [23:39:43] | TTT_Travis: | it must be something else then |
| [23:39:44] | jonK: | but I replaced it recently with an x2 |
| [23:39:59] | Aid`: | then what's wrong? the recording when i play it goes and then like pauses for 1/10 of a second |
| [23:40:02] | Aid`: | its all choppy |
| [23:40:28] | hobophobe: | what player? Do you have good drivers? |
| [23:40:42] | Aid`: | mythfrontend |
| [23:40:55] | Aid`: | i think i got good drivers i used the ones from nvidia.com |
| [23:41:11] | hobophobe: | If the player has multiple video-out-types (ie, X11, x-video, opengl) try one of the others (preferably opengl)? |
| [23:41:52] | Aid`: | im playing a mythtv recording... i only konw how to play it with the default player... |
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| [23:44:59] | Aid`: | hobophobe: what player does mythfrontend use by default? |
| [23:45:25] | hobophobe: | I'm not sure. I've never used it. I'm here because I'm learning about/working on making my computer a DVR :o) |
| [23:46:16] | gardengnome: | mythtv ships with its own player. |
| [23:46:45] | hobophobe: | gardengnome, what sort of output does it use? X11? |
| [23:46:53] | gardengnome: | hobophobe: xv, x11 as fallback |
| [23:47:06] | hobophobe: | ah |
| [23:47:22] | gardengnome: | and xvmc if you'd like ;). and there's a directfb vo driver... but i don't think it works well. |
| [23:47:23] | hobophobe: | can you force one or the other, maybe that will help Aid? |
| [23:47:47] | Aid`: | when i play a HD recording my cpu useage does up extremely high |
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| [23:51:13] | Aid`: | i tried xv but... nope |
| [23:51:32] | Aid`: | still choppy |
| [23:51:47] | gardengnome: | xvmc might helped. if your hardware supports it. |
| [23:52:01] | Aid`: | xvmc.. i dont know what that is exactly but ill look into it |
| [23:52:11] | hobophobe: | See, I have the same problem for VLC on XV and X11, but OpenGL does perfect |
| [23:52:22] | jonK: | I think I'll go home and try to get the hd3000 working |
| [23:52:24] | gardengnome: | Aid`: see wiki.mythtv.org |
| [23:52:25] | hobophobe: | That's why I thought maybe using a different output would fix it |
| [23:52:35] | jonK: | that our I'll go swimming |
| [23:52:45] | jonK: | we'll just have to see what happens when i get there |
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| [23:54:59] | Aid`: | oh well ican just wait a few hours until its done transcoding |
| [23:56:34] | jonK: | maybe it does already, but can I get mtd to use both cores of a dual core system? |
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