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Anduin, MythLogBot, BleedAway, Captain_Murdoch, cout_, cronicus, Faithful, hatredx, j-rod_, jams, john1, KaZeR, Kobaz, lu, MooingLemur, mubix, Notorious, qu0zl, radi0head, sigger, simcop2387, SlicerDicer, SlicerDicer-, splAt1, Steak, tank-man, tkaine, kormoc, Led-Hed, jk1joel, psofa, xris, nero_office, croppa, antiPosix, neddy, clintar, cesman, topping, akaias, evil_andy, AngryElf, mk500, benc-, dougl, CCFL_Man, Dibblah, jcsmith, ender224455, rikstah, scopeuk, pushpop-, JohnP789, miwl, kekoa66, flindet, ru, redcoat, a1fa, KyleAnderson_, Hoxzer_jr, wduembeg
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[14:00:07] Kelerion: packet problem?
[14:00:08] Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v MythLogBot
[14:00:22] Ruleke: aiaiai el corruptione es grande ! </bumblebeeman>
[14:00:27] Beirdo: WTF is goin on here?
[14:00:38] Beirdo: it's never done this before, now it likes to
[14:00:43] ** Beirdo slaps MythLogBot **
[14:00:49] Beirdo: !help
[14:00:56] Beirdo: still operating, I guess
[14:01:02] Kelerion: looks like it
[14:01:03] Beirdo: it segfaulted after the netsplit
[14:01:18] Juski: ?
[14:02:13] Beirdo: god knows when that was, I didn't touch the computer yesterday
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[14:04:13] Beirdo: I think I likely have a small bug somewhere
[14:04:17] Beirdo: but first, coffee
[14:04:38] dev: my favorite irc channel
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[14:07:13] a1fa: hm
[14:07:19] a1fa: i wonder when will they fix mythweather
[14:07:30] a1fa: its been months now
[14:07:42] a1fa: svn version shows wrong days for weather
[14:08:36] a1fa: on sunday, it shows wather for thursday,friday, and satuday
[14:08:36] a1fa: bizare
[14:08:36] Beirdo: heh
[14:08:36] Beirdo: the IRC log is 232MB
[14:08:46] a1fa: that is bizare as well
[14:08:52] a1fa: you would think it'd be more
[14:11:24] dev: Beirdo: compressed?
[14:11:42] Beirdo: nope
[14:11:51] Beirdo: in mysql
[14:11:57] dev: ah
[14:12:07] Beirdo: 1.2M entries or so
[14:12:22] gardengnome: grep -v silliness
[14:12:57] a1fa: grep -v gardengnome
[14:12:57] Beirdo: then it would be 0 entries
[14:12:58] Beirdo: or so
[14:13:01] a1fa: :P
[14:14:16] dev: who talks the most in here?
[14:14:26] dev: give us some statz!
[14:14:47] kenzu: how do I se my mythtv revision?
[14:15:02] a1fa: svn info
[14:15:27] dev: i think it shows it in the status information center thing
[14:15:41] a1fa: mirror, mirror or the wall, who is the... of us all..
[14:18:30] kenzu: ok so is version 10960 the newest one?
[14:20:23] GreyFoxx: 10961 is latest
[14:20:23] Kelerion: 10961 .. so close enough
[14:20:46] Ruleke: kill -15 -1
[14:20:47] Kelerion: gone up 7 in the last couple of hours.. lol
[14:20:54] Ruleke: meh wrong window
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[14:26:10] kenzu: Kelerion: so why does it tell my that it is version 0.19 rev 10960? it should be 0.20?
[14:26:55] Ruleke: not yet :)
[14:27:04] Beirdo: umm, maybe because 0.20 hasn't been released yet?
[14:27:29] Ruleke: do different branches put something different in the version string btw ?
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[14:36:15] a1fa: http://americatopten.blogspot.com/2006/08/rev . . . -making.html
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[15:06:27] a1fa: god damn it i hate " "
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[15:18:13] antiPosix: anyway I can force Mythtv to print the entire Program->Description on the bottom when I press "I"(or the remote equiv). Currently it truncates it after about the 7th word
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[15:37:29] CyberSnooP: Hi! What makes mythtvbackend decide wether it's the master or the slave on startup?
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[15:39:41] CyberSnooP: (because the only mythtvbackend instance running says "Running as a slave backend" while I want it to be the master)
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[15:43:30] Ruleke: good question... master IP address setting ?
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[15:45:43] ftp21: hello
[15:45:53] c4t3l: hello to you as well!
[15:46:54] CyberSnooP: Ruleke: might be true. triple check revealed some error there
[15:46:55] ftp21: i have a problem with mythtv...when i exit froc "watch tv" the sound doesn't stop
[15:51:43] antiPosix: how long does the sound continue for?
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[15:56:08] ftp21: forever.......stop when i rmmod v4l1-compat
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[15:59:08] antiPosix: Is there a keypress I can issue that will bring up my Media Library or recorded programs from any screen?
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[16:03:39] Juski: dammit
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[16:15:49] ftp21: antiPosix: no
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[16:22:25] c4t3l: does anyone know where zap2it labs receives their program listing information?
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[16:30:27] c4t3l: they say tribune broadcasting, i just wanted to verify something. I'm thinking of switching to
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[17:40:57] christian: Do I have to wait for mythfilldatabase to complete until I start the backend?
[17:41:23] GreyFoxx: You don't have to
[17:41:43] christian: But? ;-)
[17:41:45] GreyFoxx: when it's done mythfilldatabase sends a signal to the backend to update it's recording schedules with the new program data
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[17:45:44] christian: What do I need to enter in "audio device" in the mythfrontend setup?
[17:47:07] GreyFoxx: usually /dev/dsp or ALSA:default depending on what you are using
[17:47:52] christian: ok thanks
[17:51:18] christian: GreyFoxx: what should I enter for the mixer device when I'm using alsa?
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[17:52:33] gardengnome: christian: "default"
[17:52:36] christian: ok
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[17:57:41] christian: how would i change channels if not by entering the number? It just displays the number in the top right corner but nothings happens
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[17:59:44] scopeuk: tried pressing enter when you put in the number?
[17:59:56] christian: hmm i'm with the remote control
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[18:07:44] MeeKs: im looking for a pvr card for my mythtv box, either a avermedia ultratv 1500 or a hauppauge 150 low pro,,,, any suggesstions?
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[18:08:47] Saviq: try the wiki
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[18:09:05] MeeKs: :-)
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[18:22:17] Saviq: hi Juski
[18:24:01] Juski: hey Saviq
[18:24:17] Juski: what's up with freenode today? being a big fat PoS
[18:24:18] Saviq: how's it going?
[18:24:38] Juski: see above ^^
[18:24:39] Saviq: no idea – had it too
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[18:40:55] christian: Is it normal that I have to enter all the channels 7 times when using mythtvfilldatabase --manual? I'm using tv_grab_detvtoday so I need to set those channels manually...
[18:41:55] Saviq: why do You run it with --manual?
[18:42:07] christian: because mythtv-setup said I should
[18:42:13] Saviq: once
[18:42:30] christian: well, this is the first time
[18:42:31] Saviq: then You need to run it with --update
[18:42:50] christian: but it seems to grab for 7 days and I need to enter all the channels once for each day..
[18:42:59] Saviq: in that case – no it's not normal
[18:43:24] Saviq: it should ask You only once and then remember the settings
[18:43:27] christian: hm there is some output "Unknown xmltv channel identifier: C1.orf.at, Skipping channel"
[18:43:57] Saviq: You should define the channels in mythtv-setup first
[18:44:06] Saviq: and assign xmltv ids to them
[18:44:09] christian: ah ok
[18:44:12] gardengnome: christian: you could come over to #mythtv-de ...anyways, this is a bug in 0.19, the xmltvid won't get inserted properly.
[18:44:13] Saviq: as they are in the xml file
[18:44:42] gardengnome: christian: i'd also recommend that you read http://www.mythwiki.de/index.php/HOWTO_Mythfilldatabase
[18:44:48] christian: ok
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[19:07:51] antiPosix: how do I initiate TV out on my ATI Radeon card
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[19:09:49] Saviq: don't think the question belongs here....
[19:09:59] Saviq: google's your answer
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[19:12:54] antiPosix: what is a commonly used remote control that seems to be the most supported?
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[19:13:04] dev: hauppauge~!
[19:13:34] antiPosix: doesnt that control the tuner?
[19:13:44] antiPosix: or can it control lirc too
[19:13:55] GreyFoxx: lirc reads the remote, myth controls the tuner
[19:13:56] dev: it works with lirc
[19:14:24] antiPosix: I figured the hauppauge remote directly controled the tuner(regardless of OS/Software)
[19:14:33] GreyFoxx: no, no remotes do that
[19:14:36] GreyFoxx: It's all software
[19:15:26] antiPosix: anyone have experience with the ATI Remote Wonder II ?
[19:15:37] antiPosix: gotta love ATI's naming convention
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[20:18:37] xris: antiPosix: it's the same as the x10 lola, and a few others. lirc has driver support, and there is also a kernel driver for it that makes it work like a keyboard
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[21:18:48] johnsu01: So, people might be interested to know that my machine was compromised via the mythtv user account last week.
[21:19:16] johnsu01: I was probably an idiot and didn't change the default password (though I swear I did) — but the notable thing here is that they logged in directly as mythtv without any previous incorrect login attempts.
[21:19:32] scopeuk: was the password by any chance mythtv
[21:19:50] johnsu01: like I said, it may have been though of course I intended for it not to be :)
[21:19:56] scopeuk: yeh
[21:20:08] johnsu01: anyway, one possible theory is that people are collecting IPs from these channel logs
[21:20:10] scopeuk: default passwords nad an open ssh channel is a bad combination
[21:20:19] johnsu01: scopeuk: sure are :)
[21:20:21] scopeuk: quite possible
[21:20:21] kormoc: johnsu01, well, that's why myth itself doesn't ship with a default unix user, that's the distro's fault
[21:20:37] scopeuk: eg if your using knoppmyth god help you the sky is falling
[21:20:43] johnsu01: kormoc: sure, not blaming myth at all, just wanted to give people a heads up
[21:20:48] johnsu01: my own fault obviously.
[21:20:49] kormoc: nah, I get ssh scanned with user mythtv along with user's myth and mythbox, among the hundreds of other bad usernames
[21:21:05] johnsu01: kormoc: sure, me too. but this wasn't part of a scan.
[21:21:18] kormoc: fair nuff
[21:21:25] scopeuk: hmm i run ssh on an obscure port to avoid that as much as possible
[21:21:35] scopeuk: and i only enable it when i need it
[21:21:43] scopeuk: remote webinterface on the router is quite handy
[21:21:46] johnsu01: yeah, I'm obviously going to change my policies a bit.
[21:21:48] kormoc: I just echo "ALL: $ip" >> /etc/hosts.deny
[21:21:49] gardengnome: johnsu01: maybe you could post to mythtv-users as well to reach more people
[21:22:19] johnsu01: gardengnome: maybe I will, though I'm hesitant to embarass myself that way ;)
[21:22:39] scopeuk: jsut start it my friend...
[21:22:43] johnsu01: they didn't get root
[21:22:47] scopeuk: no onewill ever know
[21:22:50] johnsu01: they're just running some irc stuff
[21:23:10] scopeuk: thats lucky especialy if you havent patched up against the exploite that whent round a short while back
[21:23:12] gardengnome: johnsu01: so? that might save some people :)
[21:23:35] scopeuk: tbh i whouldent notice if my box did get compromised
[21:23:36] johnsu01: scopeuk: I use debian with the security updates regularly, so hopefully that was taken care of
[21:23:55] scopeuk: its was a kernal floor
[21:24:02] scopeuk: its patched as of 2.6.17 iirc
[21:24:44] kormoc: it was patched in one of the _rc's for 2.6.17, iirc, so yeah, 2.6.17+ should be happy
[21:24:45] johnsu01: I've been recording all their bot traffic, so I'll xref the names involved with mythtv-user names and see if anything comes up
[21:25:05] kormoc is now known as irchacker007
[21:25:12] ** irchacker007 laughs evilly at johnsu01 **
[21:25:12] johnsu01: :)
[21:25:16] irchacker007: you'll never catch me!
[21:25:21] ** irchacker007 disappears into the night **
[21:25:23] irchacker007 is now known as kormoc
[21:25:28] scopeuk: lol?
[21:25:57] scopeuk: and whouldent it be 1rc4ack3r007
[21:26:06] johnsu01: the real names are funny enough
[21:26:12] scopeuk: im sure they are
[21:26:15] johnsu01: BoyHackerz etc
[21:26:16] kormoc: yeah... I'm not 1337 enough for that
[21:26:25] kormoc: is that like a irc boy band?
[21:26:53] gardengnome: scopeuk: i don't think nicks can start with a number...
[21:27:15] kormoc: alas, they can't
[21:27:17] scopeuk: erroneous nick
[21:27:18] kormoc: --- 3leet :Erroneous Nickname
[21:27:26] scopeuk: so im not the only one to try it
[21:28:45] johnsu01: Just thought I'd pop in and say something, I'm going to post their .bash_history and methods later, so maybe I'll write to the list then too. l8rz haX0rz.
[21:29:03] scopeuk: l8rs
[21:29:08] scopeuk: thanks for the hu
[21:29:12] gardengnome: l80rs
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[21:29:38] gardengnome: humm
[21:29:50] scopeuk: think his exit tag had owt to do with it
[21:29:53] gardengnome: did they hack his irc client, too? :)
[21:29:56] scopeuk: almost sticks out as a huneypot
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[21:31:05] kormoc: meh, no-one has haxored my home box yet, with it's blank root password. All those stupid password bots assuming there is a pass<no carrier>
[21:31:34] scopeuk: lol
[21:31:43] ** opello goes a haxoring ... **
[21:32:06] ** scopeuk takes bets there are well over 1000 myth tv boxes wit hssh and user pass combo mythtv mythtv **
[21:32:23] scopeuk: ok he did change his quite message
[21:32:25] kormoc: yeah, but how many have a external IP and ssh running?
[21:32:26] scopeuk: had to check
[21:32:28] opello: shh, don't it away! :)
[21:32:40] scopeuk: ssh is prety standard in alot of distros
[21:32:42] Zider: mine is mythtv:mythtv, but on a private network :D
[21:33:09] scopeuk: same
[21:33:58] opello: and tunnel in through the forward facing sshd
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[21:34:37] scopeuk: yeh one of these days il lsetup porper remote access
[21:34:46] scopeuk: atm i jsut turn it on and off through my router remote interface
[21:34:56] scopeuk: i kwo where im goign and its locked ot that ip address
[21:35:14] Zider: opello: if there is any, and if it allows tunneling.. :P
[21:35:23] opello: Zider: heh, true
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[21:35:33] scopeuk: hi juski
[21:35:40] Juski: hiya scopeuk
[21:35:50] Zider: opello: and provided they know the local ip :D
[21:35:51] kormoc: I need to setup christina as a shorewall box
[21:36:17] opello: Zider: zoneedit + ddclient
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[21:36:27] Zider: opello: que?
[21:36:33] opello: Zider: dynamic dns
[21:36:39] opello: oh, local ... nm :)
[21:36:46] Zider: :P
[21:36:48] opello: heh
[21:37:05] opello: apache and proxypass?
[21:37:21] Zider: no apache here
[21:37:26] Zider: not right now anyways
[21:37:31] opello: ah
[21:38:09] Zider: only one port open.. :D
[21:38:16] Zider: now its 0
[21:38:44] scopeuk: port knocking?
[21:39:03] opello: that's a neat idea
[21:39:05] Zider: checked with nmap
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[21:41:28] BBlinkK: anyone around?
[21:42:04] Juski: nah
[21:42:05] scopeuk: nope
[21:42:07] scopeuk: were all in bed
[21:43:12] Juski: speak for yerself
[21:43:43] scopeuk: wish i could go to bed ndstill be online
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[21:43:48] scopeuk: whould make waking up easier
[21:44:21] Juski: actually I think I'll head off. don't wanna do another 5.30am bedtime
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[21:44:39] gardengnome: scopeuk: get a laptop?
[21:44:56] scopeuk: might be for my birthday
[21:45:07] scopeuk: off to uni so my dad has the idea in his head
[21:45:13] gardengnome: heh
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[21:45:24] scopeuk: although hey strech the budget somewhat too much for me to go out and get one jsut liek that
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[21:52:04] masterc: Evenin!
[21:52:39] masterc: I am trying to move back to a database schema version, but not lose (and then have to import) all of my recordings.
[21:52:55] masterc: I forgot to backup my db prior to testing out SVN, and now I get a:
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[21:53:36] masterc: Current Schema version 1142 and below that Newest Schema Version 1123
[21:54:07] masterc: My guess is this is why I am having problems using XvMC on my Via-based chipset
[21:55:11] masterc: So, I figure I can drop the database, grab one from 0.19-fixes and feed it back. But I'll lose my settings as well as my recordings. And the only way I know of to get them back is to reconfigure for the settings (including tuner cards) and then import for the shows. Is there any easier way?
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[21:56:59] |marvin|: good evening
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[21:57:49] |marvin|: i trying to get the mythtv_svn.spec to work, does anybody has expiriences with this
[21:58:15] |marvin|: i stuck with getting the release version
[21:58:36] |marvin|: it is downloading the svn , but quits then
[22:01:48] wduembeg: so you did follow the instructions here? http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/
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[22:14:55] wduembeg: any one doing HDTV out there having issues with audio getting ahead of video?
[22:15:27] wduembeg: or at least that what the messages fron NVP say
[22:15:42] wduembeg: specially with 1080i content
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[22:18:16] Hoxzer_jr: here in finland we're still moving to digital tv :(
[22:18:39] adante: anybody here have problems with their 16:9 recordings being transcoded to 4:3
[22:18:43] Hoxzer_jr: Doesn't really matter. What I really care about is internet connections
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[22:19:51] wduembeg: yes hopefully soon IPTV will be a reality but in a open standard, not all this close standar bs
[22:20:40] scopeuk: we can keep dreaming i spose
[22:20:57] wduembeg: I just got myself an UHF antenna an now I can get about 6 -7 HD channels, but CBS gives me probelms with their 1080i
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[22:23:01] wduembeg: I have not done any transcoding yet, but mythfront end will resize to fit my other none 16:9 TV no problem
[22:23:41] wduembeg: yes files are huge
[22:23:46] wduembeg: 5 gb/ hr
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[22:26:54] GreyFoxx: wduembeg: a lot of providers just use regular udp/rtp for iptv and rtsp for vod
[22:27:10] GreyFoxx: myth supports the udp/rtp multicast or unicast stuff in svn now
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[22:33:45] wduembeg: nice...
[22:36:12] GreyFoxx: I'm not sure if it's watching for SAP/SDP announcments yet, but that's probably gonna happen eventually :)
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[22:56:47] ** pushpop- thanks the creaters and slicerdicer for MythTV = ) **
[22:57:31] SlicerDicer-: just dont forget to turn on the cablebox ;-)
[22:57:41] pushpop-: LOL ya
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[22:59:26] scopeuk: GreyFoxx fine up vlc and send out some anounce ments see what happens
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[23:07:43] GreyFoxx: scopeuk: I'm sure we aren't watching for the announcements
[23:08:00] GreyFoxx: I've since looked :)
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[23:24:21] cesman: hello hello
[23:25:15] scopeuk: hi cesman
[23:29:33] cesman: hello
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[23:45:54] sigger_: hey fysa, by any chance did you try knoppmyth when you were getting your asus a8n-vm mobo up and running?
[23:47:24] fysa: I didn't.. it may be OK now?
[23:47:32] fysa: don't know :)
[23:48:21] sigger_: k. I've done a lot of reading on it and clearly there were BIOS/driver/support issues when it first came out. I'm thinking of going with it rather than a MSI mobo
[23:49:11] sigger_: sorry one last thing, fysa: how long ago did you get it and have the issues you mentioned?
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