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| [00:04:07] | ** LLyric signs ** | |
| [00:04:09] | LLyric: | sighs |
| [00:04:21] | tjcarter: | xris: I knew what he meant |
| [00:04:38] | xris: | tjcarter: there's also just pressing C |
| [00:04:42] | xris: | but yes |
| [00:04:49] | LLyric: | I've still got a couple of issues with my mythbox, if anyone can help? |
| [00:05:22] | ** tjcarter guesses he should go talk to people in developer channel for what he's trying to do ** | |
| [00:05:42] | LLyric: | (1) getting HD out of my nvidia card properly, (2) getting DViCO Dual Digital remote working, (3) sometimes records on the same card "just don't start" (myth tries, but it never starts recording). |
| [00:06:12] | LLyric: | Anyone got any of those three working properly, and can spare a minute to point me in hte right direction? |
| [00:06:13] | xris: | LLyric: why can't you do hd? |
| [00:07:16] | LLyric: | When I get TVStandard HD1080i, all the logs look good, and it appears to be drawing right, but every second line(?) is offset by say 50 pixels |
| [00:07:27] | LLyric: | Making a "shadow" of everything == blurry |
| [00:07:46] | LLyric: | The same thing actually happens in other modes (540i) too |
| [00:07:53] | tjcarter: | ah, interlaced |
| [00:07:55] | xris: | what kind of interface to the tv? |
| [00:08:09] | xris: | LLyric: and why not use 1080p? |
| [00:08:14] | LLyric: | TV doesn't support it |
| [00:08:22] | LLyric: | Using component video from breakout cable |
| [00:08:24] | xris: | what's the res of the tv? |
| [00:08:30] | xris: | ah, analog hd. ick. |
| [00:08:47] | LLyric: | Hey, I don't have a digital telly, too expensive right now. |
| [00:09:03] | LLyric: | I'm sure DVI/HDMI would be much easier :) |
| [00:09:43] | xris: | LLyric: better than mine. I don't have any HD. |
| [00:09:46] | LLyric: | Anyway, it is what it is.... and the picture from the s-video cable is pretty crappy (compared to my old pvr-350) |
| [00:09:46] | xris: | what's the res of the tv? |
| [00:10:14] | xris: | most tv's, *especially* analog-only ones, don't go above 720p |
| [00:10:21] | xris: | no point in pushing your card to display more than the tv can handle |
| [00:10:27] | LLyric: | It definately supports 1080i input |
| [00:10:35] | LLyric: | via component |
| [00:10:36] | xris: | LLyric: input, yes... but what about output? |
| [00:10:46] | LLyric: | I'm not trying to output from tv |
| [00:10:56] | xris: | what other use of a tv is there? |
| [00:10:57] | LLyric: | My digital settop box -> TV is 1080i |
| [00:11:03] | LLyric: | WHich works fine |
| [00:11:10] | LLyric: | Okay, picture output :Q |
| [00:11:48] | LLyric: | I'm literally pulling the RGB cables from the settop box @ 1080i and plugging them into the nvidia breakout cable, and getting the interlaced/offset issue |
| [00:11:50] | xris: | LLyric: yes. what I'm saying is that your tv is probably not actually capable of displaying 1088 lines of resolution.. so shoot for 720p from the mythbox |
| [00:12:01] | LLyric: | The tv doesn't support 720p |
| [00:12:10] | LLyric: | Only 540p and 1080i |
| [00:12:10] | xris: | how can it support 1080 but not 720? |
| [00:12:14] | xris: | wtf |
| [00:12:22] | LLyric: | SO it's probably got 540 native vertical resolution |
| [00:12:27] | LLyric: | And a cheap down converter |
| [00:13:02] | xris: | and at that point, I'd recommend getting your mythbox to output the maximum resolution the tv actually displays |
| [00:13:28] | LLyric: | Sure, but like I said, I get the same problem with 540p |
| [00:13:31] | xris: | ahh |
| [00:13:43] | xris: | wait, 540? PAL? |
| [00:13:46] | LLyric: | Yes |
| [00:14:01] | xris: | and you're forcing the driver to use PAL? |
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| [00:14:35] | LLyric: | ... Not sure how to do that, the place where I'd normally do "TVStandard PAL-G" is the one that gets changed to "TVStandard HD1080i" |
| [00:14:48] | LLyric: | Is HD still pal/ntsc? |
| [00:15:10] | xris: | I actually don't know.. if it's 540, that's not hd |
| [00:16:21] | LLyric: | That's a matter of definitions. Basically, 1080i looks better on my telly than 540p, so if I can get that, it'd be nice. But even 540p via component would be okay. |
| [00:16:42] | LLyric: | But 540 via s-video looks crap. Kindof dark, and a bit blurry. |
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| [00:20:27] | xris: | well, component is way better than svideo |
| [00:20:35] | xris: | but I'm at a loss, sorry |
| [00:21:30] | jams: | xris, what is the idea behind the perl bindings? |
| [00:21:55] | jams: | will it replace the telnet control stuff? |
| [00:22:15] | xris: | jams: no, it's mainly so programs like nuvexport don't have to tie to specific versions of mythtv |
| [00:22:30] | jams: | ah |
| [00:22:44] | xris: | bindings might actually USE the telnet interface |
| [00:23:09] | jams: | more of an api |
| [00:23:20] | xris: | y |
| [00:24:11] | ** LLyric waits for 1080p native plasma's to become affordable... ** | |
| [00:26:07] | xris: | why would you want plasma? nasty burn-in |
| [00:26:27] | LLyric: | Everyone tells me that's an old story, and they don't do that anymore |
| [00:26:38] | ** LLyric doesn't understand how the settop box can send 1080i fine, and nvidia doesn't. Foo ** | |
| [00:26:51] | xris: | unless they're talking about the last year or so, they definitely get burn in |
| [00:27:00] | xris: | I don't know about brand new ones |
| [00:27:47] | LLyric: | My TV is 46VW9UA from about halfway down this page. http://www.pymblehifi.com.au/ToshibaTVs.htm |
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| [00:28:24] | mchou: | damn, 106 DegF ouside now |
| [00:28:30] | mchou: | outside* |
| [00:30:05] | mchou: | definitely going to the beach tomorrow |
| [00:32:09] | xris: | mchou: 91 here.. stupid heat wave |
| [00:32:19] | mchou: | xris: lucky you |
| [00:32:30] | mchou: | 91 is cool by comparison |
| [00:32:50] | xris: | mchou: 30–50% humidity |
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| [00:33:12] | mchou: | 23% Humidity here |
| [00:33:52] | mchou: | I'm surprised my CPU hasn't melted :) |
| [00:33:52] | LLyric: | Is hdmi compressed in any way? I read a lot of articles that say that component video is sometimes better than hdmi – how can that be, if hdmi is all-digital? |
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| [00:34:39] | mchou: | LLyric: where did you read that crap? |
| [00:35:09] | LLyric: | Many many places. Google for "hdmi vs component" |
| [00:35:21] | mchou: | lol |
| [00:35:40] | LLyric: | Other than hdcp is evil :) |
| [00:35:48] | mchou: | yeah, da web is the difinitive authority :) |
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| [00:37:35] | ** LLyric kicks his new mythbox in the nads ** | |
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| [00:38:15] | LLyric: | Sheeesh, my crappy old 800Mhz EPIA with pvr350 works better than this dualcore lotsa ram, highdef, nvidia thing |
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| [00:50:49] | LabMonkey: | uhh... to make my screen stop blanking after N minutes of inactivity it's 'Option "DPMS" "False"' in xorg.conf, right? |
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| [00:59:03] | LLyric: | It's probably your screensaver rather than X |
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| [01:09:00] | infringer: | woot! |
| [01:09:06] | infringer: | got it working in irw |
| [01:09:28] | LLyric: | Your remote? |
| [01:09:33] | infringer: | figured out that you really have to battle the piss out of the plugin to get it to plugin all the way |
| [01:09:33] | LLyric: | I haven't got mine working yet :( |
| [01:09:51] | LLyric: | what card? |
| [01:09:59] | infringer: | I just need to figure out how to remove some links I made to lirc |
| [01:10:05] | infringer: | in mandriva |
| [01:10:17] | infringer: | which looks for the config in the wrong direction |
| [01:10:20] | Fnc: | em -f |
| [01:10:29] | Fnc: | er rm =f |
| [01:10:30] | Fnc: | damit |
| [01:10:33] | Fnc: | rm -f |
| [01:10:40] | infringer: | that will work |
| [01:10:44] | infringer: | ? |
| [01:11:05] | Fnc: | on the sym link yes |
| [01:11:18] | infringer: | ok thanks sir |
| [01:11:25] | infringer: | lemme give it a shot |
| [01:12:35] | infringer: | Fnc there is still one more link to remove |
| [01:12:38] | infringer: | mythtv: could not open config file /root/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:12:46] | infringer: | it removed the rest of the links |
| [01:12:52] | infringer: | though one step closer |
| [01:13:18] | infringer: | there is a link somewhere else any idea where it might be |
| [01:13:21] | Fnc: | whats that linked to? |
| [01:13:27] | Fnc: | ls -la ? |
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| [01:15:24] | infringer: | Fnc no idea man... I'll post a log on paste bin |
| [01:15:29] | Fnc: | infringer: you got a file, or symlink /root/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:15:39] | Fnc: | you shouldnt run as root though! |
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| [01:16:59] | infringer: | I aint running as root |
| [01:17:17] | Fnc: | dont know why so many people have so many issues with lirc.. i had a bitch of a time, but i had to patch lirc drivers, and all sorts of crazy crap |
| [01:17:34] | Fnc: | ok.. just figured since it was looking in /root |
| [01:20:12] | infringer: | yeah hrmmm well this is what I followed cause I was having issues when my only issue was really not being plugged in all the way! http://pastebin.ca/96636 |
| [01:20:39] | infringer: | so now I still have some bad link somewhere and dunno where the piss it is |
| [01:21:07] | Fnc: | looks like you created a link here |
| [01:21:08] | Fnc: | ln -s /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc /home/mythtv/.lircrc |
| [01:21:28] | infringer: | yes |
| [01:21:28] | Fnc: | do this: |
| [01:21:32] | Fnc: | updatedb |
| [01:21:43] | Fnc: | then when that finishes... locate lircrc |
| [01:21:50] | Fnc: | let me know where it finds it |
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| [01:23:52] | infringer: | /usr/local/bin/lircrcd |
| [01:24:17] | infringer: | /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:24:17] | infringer: | /home/mythtv/.lircrc |
| [01:25:21] | infringer: | mythtv: could not open config file /root/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:25:22] | infringer: | mythtv: No such file or directory |
| [01:25:22] | infringer: | Failed to read lirc config /root/.mythtv/lircrc for mythtv |
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| [01:28:15] | Fnc: | so when you run the backend and the frontend your launching them as mythtv? |
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| [01:28:50] | Fnc: | when you installed myth did you do so as the mythtv use or root? |
| [01:29:43] | infringer: | no no I created the link cause it did not look there until I did so |
| [01:29:58] | infringer: | just need to figure out how to remove the link |
| [01:30:13] | Fnc: | got to be root |
| [01:30:17] | Fnc: | then do the rm -f |
| [01:31:51] | infringer: | no go |
| [01:32:08] | infringer: | it removed 3 other links but obviously theres a link somewhere else |
| [01:32:14] | infringer: | as I stated before |
| [01:32:31] | Fnc: | what are you trying to remove? specifically? |
| [01:32:39] | Fnc: | which file? |
| [01:32:59] | infringer: | it is looking for lircrc in the wrong directory |
| [01:33:02] | infringer: | obviously |
| [01:33:14] | Fnc: | what dir is it looking in? |
| [01:33:33] | infringer: | mythtv: could not open config file /root/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:33:33] | infringer: | mythtv: No such file or directory |
| [01:33:33] | infringer: | Failed to read lirc config /root/.mythtv/lircrc for mythtv |
| [01:34:00] | ** xris has come to the conclusion that the people in #ffmpeg don't actually know all that much about the program they're claiming to support ** | |
| [01:34:03] | Fnc: | no idea why its looking there.. must have happend when you installed it |
| [01:34:24] | alsoconfused: | infringer: echo $HOME; id |
| [01:34:35] | Fnc: | dirty fix... but create a sym link there to /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc |
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| [01:34:53] | Fnc: | then chown it to the mythtv user |
| [01:35:14] | infringer: | [root@localhost lirc-0.8.1-CVS-pvr150]# echo $HOME; id |
| [01:35:14] | infringer: | uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root) |
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| [01:35:43] | alsoconfused: | infringer: you are running as root |
| [01:35:48] | Fnc: | heh |
| [01:35:52] | Fnc: | type exit |
| [01:35:52] | infringer: | yes |
| [01:35:57] | Fnc: | then try to start stuff up |
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| [01:38:53] | infringer: | doh |
| [01:39:24] | infringer: | working now wtf now how do I configure the irblaster to work with the motorola setop box I have |
| [01:40:14] | doggkruse: | I just upgraded to latest svn and I'm getting a lot of : MythSocket(b0335e90:-1): writeStringList: Error, socket went unconnected. |
| [01:40:16] | Fnc: | infringer i think you have to set up a channel change script in mythsetup.. but i dont use any external boxes so i really dont know |
| [01:40:20] | doggkruse: | and other related errors |
| [01:40:24] | doggkruse: | any ideas? |
| [01:40:40] | Fnc: | yeah connect them unconnected sockets |
| [01:40:48] | doggkruse: | either when using mythweb or a remote frontend |
| [01:40:51] | doggkruse: | lol |
| [01:40:53] | doggkruse: | fnc |
| [01:41:00] | Fnc: | cant help ya therfe sorry |
| [01:41:00] | doggkruse: | Fnc, let me get right on that |
| [01:41:17] | doggkruse: | I guess I forgot to plug the darn thing in |
| [01:41:19] | doggkruse: | ;) |
| [01:41:43] | Fnc: | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&am . . . ;btnG=Search |
| [01:41:52] | infringer: | damn hrmmm ok I will google it man thanks |
| [01:41:59] | Fnc: | only 3 results... but see if any of that helps |
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| [01:42:09] | Fnc: | doggkruse |
| [01:42:26] | doggkruse: | tnx:. looking now |
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| [01:43:28] | doggkruse: | Fnc, nothing useful |
| [01:44:52] | doggkruse: | this is the other one I get |
| [01:44:54] | doggkruse: | 2006-07–22 19:44:27.556 MythSocket(b0302ae0:12): writeStringList: No data written on writeBlock |
| [01:45:15] | doggkruse: | only 2 for that one |
| [01:48:31] | xris: | doggkruse: is the error causing any visible problems? |
| [01:48:55] | doggkruse: | not in mythweb, but my remote frontend hangs when I go to view the recordings list |
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| [01:49:11] | xris: | hmm |
| [01:49:17] | doggkruse: | back and frontend are current svn |
| [01:49:25] | doggkruse: | (< 10 minutes old) |
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| [01:49:53] | doggkruse: | on the local frontend, it works fine |
| [01:50:28] | doggkruse: | the no data on writeblock is the one I get with the frontend |
| [01:50:34] | doggkruse: | and the other is mythweb |
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| [01:52:36] | xris: | is your hard drive ok? |
| [01:53:28] | Fnc: | yeah he asked it earily... it said "Im a little hot... but im cool" |
| [01:53:47] | doggkruse: | xris: as far as I know |
| [01:53:52] | doggkruse: | works fine locally |
| [01:54:23] | xris: | oh.. so it's a remote frontend. |
| [01:54:28] | doggkruse: | yeah |
| [01:54:34] | doggkruse: | sorry, I thought I said that |
| [01:54:37] | xris: | might have. |
| [01:54:47] | xris: | all I see is "local" and "frontend"... |
| [01:54:57] | xris: | I came into the conversation late, though |
| [01:55:02] | doggkruse: | sorry |
| [01:55:04] | xris: | might just be a problem with svn |
| [01:55:35] | doggkruse: | yeah :/ |
| [01:55:50] | doggkruse: | I haven't seen any socket related changes lately though |
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| [01:59:36] | Fnc: | anyone use HD OTA ? it seems to take a bit to long when i select a hd channel for it to pop up? |
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| [02:00:16] | xris: | Fnc: define long |
| [02:03:42] | Fnc: | hmm seems like 10–30 secs |
| [02:03:53] | xris: | that's long |
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| [02:04:06] | Fnc: | takes a lil while to tune analog cable.. but longer for the hd |
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| [02:04:09] | xris: | it's slower than analog, but usually no more than a couple of seconds |
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| [02:05:19] | Fnc: | lets just say that im thinking when i record hd stuff.. i may need to set it to start recording earilier |
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| [02:05:30] | xris: | could be |
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| [02:07:20] | Fnc: | havent been running my myth box all that long.. still need to set it up to auto stip out comercials... that pretty easy to do? are there any issues i should be aware of? |
| [02:08:29] | infringer: | yes it seems as if its easy to do there are differnt detections you can use or a number of detections together for the commercial |
| [02:08:45] | infringer: | such a logo, black screen ect ect |
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| [03:05:33] | ender224455_: | what linux distribution do you use (and is Fedora 5 easy to set up with that walkthrough)? |
| [03:06:33] | xris: | ender224455_: use whichever distro you're most familiar with. and yes, fedora has a really good guide for it. google for: wilsonet mythtv |
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| [03:21:42] | user12: | No video on FC4 with 0.19 |
| [03:21:46] | user12: | [root@hippo ~]# rpm -qa|grep ivtv |
| [03:21:46] | user12: | ivtv-kmdl-2.6.16–1.2108_FC4–0.6.2–110.rhfc4.at |
| [03:21:46] | user12: | ivtv-kmdl-2.6.16–1.2111_FC4–0.6.2–110.rhfc4.at |
| [03:21:46] | user12: | ivtv-0.7.0–117.fc4.at |
| [03:21:46] | user12: | ivtv-kmdl-2.6.17–1.2139_FC4–0.7–115.rhfc4.at |
| [03:21:47] | user12: | ivtv-firmware-enc-2.04.024–9.at |
| [03:21:48] | user12: | ivtv-kmdl-2.6.17–1.2141_FC4–0.7.0–117.fc4.at |
| [03:21:50] | user12: | perl-Video-ivtv-0.13–8.fc4.at |
| [03:21:52] | user12: | ivtv-firmware-dec-2.02.023–9.at |
| [03:21:54] | user12: | ivtv-firmware-audio-0.0.1–5.at |
| [03:21:56] | user12: | [root@hippo ~]# uname -a |
| [03:21:58] | user12: | Linux hippo 2.6.16–1.2108_FC4 #1 Thu May 4 23:52:01 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux |
| [03:22:00] | user12: | ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ==================== |
| [03:22:02] | user12: | ivtv: version 0.6.2 (development snapshot compiled on Mon May 8 07:44:41 2006) loading |
| [03:22:06] | user12: | ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.16–1.2108_FC4 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-4.0 |
| [03:22:08] | user12: | ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between |
| [03:22:10] | user12: | ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with |
| [03:22:12] | user12: | ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist. |
| [03:22:14] | user12: | ivtv0: Unknown card: vendor/device: 4444/0016 |
| [03:22:16] | user12: | ivtv0: subsystem vendor/device: 0070/37f3 |
| [03:22:18] | user12: | ivtv0: cx23416 based |
| [03:22:20] | user12: | ivtv0: Defaulting to Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150 card |
| [03:22:22] | user12: | ivtv0: Please mail the vendor/device and subsystem vendor/device IDs and what kind of |
| [03:22:24] | user12: | ivtv0: card you have to the ivtv-devel mailinglist (www.ivtvdriver.org) |
| [03:22:26] | user12: | ivtv0: Prefix your subject line with [UNKNOWN CARD]. |
| [03:22:28] | user12: | ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:03.0[A] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 193 |
| [03:22:30] | user12: | tuner 1–0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0) |
| [03:22:32] | user12: | cx25840 1–0044: cx25841–23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0) |
| [03:22:36] | user12: | cx25840 1–0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes) |
| [03:22:38] | user12: | wm8775 1–001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0) |
| [03:22:40] | user12: | tveeprom 1–0050: Hauppauge model 26132, rev F0B2, serial# 9404226 |
| [03:22:43] | user12: | tveeprom 1–0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4) |
| [03:22:44] | user12: | tveeprom 1–0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08) |
| [03:22:46] | user12: | tveeprom 1–0050: audio processor is CX25841 (idx 35) |
| [03:22:48] | user12: | tveeprom 1–0050: decoder processor is CX25841 (idx 28) |
| [03:22:50] | user12: | tveeprom 1–0050: has no radio, has IR remote |
| [03:22:52] | user12: | ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes) |
| [03:22:55] | user12: | ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02040024 |
| [03:22:56] | user12: | ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total) |
| [03:22:58] | user12: | ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total) |
| [03:23:00] | user12: | ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total) |
| [03:23:02] | user12: | ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total) |
| [03:23:06] | user12: | tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
| [03:23:08] | user12: | tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
| [03:23:10] | user12: | ivtv0: Initialized Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150, card #0 |
| [03:23:12] | user12: | ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ==================== |
| [03:23:14] | user12: | tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
| [03:23:16] | user12: | tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
| [03:23:18] | user12: | tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
| [03:23:20] | user12: | tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
| [03:23:22] | user12: | tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
| [03:23:24] | user12: | tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
| [03:23:26] | user12: | [root@hippo ~]# |
| [03:23:28] | user12: | [root@hippo ~]# lspci -v |
| [03:23:30] | user12: | 02:03.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [03:23:33] | user12: | Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc.: Unknown device 37f3 |
| [03:23:37] | user12: | Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 193 |
| [03:23:39] | user12: | Memory at dc000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] |
| [03:24:00] | xris: | user12: don't flood |
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| [03:36:50] | Fnc: | in myth is there a way to mark and cut only a specific segment of video? |
| [03:40:19] | Fnc: | ...or some linux program for this? |
| [03:40:34] | mchou: | Fnc: huh?? |
| [03:40:45] | mchou: | Fnc: what do you mean? |
| [03:41:02] | Fnc: | want to create a video file from a movie i recorded.. but only want like 1 min or 2 |
| [03:41:20] | mchou: | Fnc: read the docs. keys.txt |
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| [03:45:15] | Fnc: | so is the answer no then? cuz i dont see it in there! |
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| [03:45:29] | infringer: | anyone still awake? |
| [03:45:37] | Dagmar: | nope |
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| [03:46:08] | infringer: | how the heck do I get IR blaster going with a script to automatically change channels and such |
| [03:46:31] | infringer: | for pvr-150 |
| [03:46:39] | infringer: | I got the remote working and so on |
| [03:46:53] | infringer: | just need to make it change channels for a motorola cable box |
| [03:47:07] | infringer: | I aint finding sufficient info on how this is done |
| [03:47:32] | Fnc: | infringer do a search on google, with your model number and myth |
| [03:47:34] | infringer: | an example would be nice even |
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| [03:48:32] | infringer: | the irblaster and ir reciever are on the card on the same line |
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| [03:48:46] | infringer: | via an irblaster port |
| [03:49:22] | infringer: | I've google till my hearts content there is no good example explaning how to run scripts or where to put scripts or how to configure them with mythtv |
| [03:49:40] | infringer: | just example scripts and scripts |
| [03:49:42] | Fnc: | then you got a model number? |
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| [03:50:34] | infringer: | no I really dunno my model I wonder if theres a sys info screen on the sucker theres no model tag on it |
| [03:51:40] | Fnc: | well that you got to figure out first |
| [03:52:31] | infringer: | DCT2244 |
| [03:53:18] | infringer: | on bottom of box didnt notice I'm used to dish recievers having model on back |
| [03:53:28] | infringer: | anyways that'd be the model no. |
| [03:53:34] | infringer: | for my cable box |
| [03:54:36] | infringer: | so the code set is 0_80_?? |
| [03:54:47] | infringer: | I think |
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| [03:59:25] | infringer: | Fnc yes codeset for that is both 80 and 81 |
| [04:10:57] | Fnc: | looks like people are doing it via serial port |
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| [04:13:37] | infringer: | ok how would I change this script to work with that codeset and how would I intagrate it with mythtv? http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/lmilk/change_channel |
| [04:16:21] | Fnc: | "/usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.19/contrib/channel_changers/dct-channel |
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| [04:38:24] | Dagmar: | It's almost getting time to replace the phone |
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| [06:00:23] | LaptopAncient: | I hope this is a simple question. Since my last mythtv-frontend update, while I navigate the GUI with the keyboard cursor keys, each key press registers twice. I have replicated the problem on 3 computers running 0.18 and 0.19 versions. Any one know what I need to do to stop this behavior? |
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| [06:06:44] | Dagmar: | Make sure you've only *one* lircd running |
| [06:07:27] | LaptopAncient: | no lirc process running on the machine at all :( |
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| [06:20:39] | RandomDude16: | Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Could not open network socket |
| [06:20:42] | RandomDude16: | how do I fix that? |
| [06:20:55] | RandomDude16: | ive been unable to use the init script |
| [06:20:59] | RandomDude16: | to start up mythbackend |
| [06:21:11] | tjcarter: | hmm, that's interesting |
| [06:21:35] | tjcarter: | whose init script? |
| [06:21:54] | RandomDude16: | the one that came with myth |
| [06:22:24] | tjcarter: | ah, okay, I don't know if that's the same one that comes with KnoppMyth or not |
| [06:23:01] | tjcarter: | ef128c3de0b97da5cc2ad0567bdcd755 /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend |
| [06:23:22] | tjcarter: | I've heard something about people having trouble with an init script before, but it works by hand |
| [06:23:53] | tjcarter: | If that is so for you, and the above md5 differs from yours, I can get you my init script and you can try it, etc |
| [06:24:43] | ** tjcarter grasping at straws since he happens to be sitting here ** | |
| [06:24:46] | Dagmar: | Wouldn't it be easier to have him pastebin(.ca) the contents of the script? |
| [06:24:52] | Dagmar: | then we could just look at it |
| [06:24:52] | RandomDude16: | brb |
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| [06:25:45] | tjcarter: | Dagmar: if it comes with Myth, anyone with source handy can look at it |
| [06:26:11] | Dagmar: | Do you have the source? I know I don't. |
| [06:26:29] | Dagmar: | I just know my script has quite a lot of bells/whistles and still works |
| [06:26:33] | tjcarter: | not handy, no |
| [06:26:59] | Dagmar: | I think I'm going to have another go at refining my ffmpeg and transcode packages before I make a release of them |
| [06:27:16] | tjcarter: | aren't you (one of?) the KnoppMyth people? Theoretically having the source would help in that case. |
| [06:27:20] | Dagmar: | Nope. |
| [06:27:22] | Dagmar: | I do Slackware. |
| [06:27:27] | tjcarter: | oh |
| [06:27:38] | Dagmar: | I figured a clean-room reimplmentation of everything would have eventual uses. |
| [06:27:45] | tjcarter: | yeah |
| [06:27:56] | Dagmar: | When I get stuck, then I go after other people's code, and if I see anything I've fixed that they haven't, I submit patches |
| [06:28:17] | Dagmar: | So far, transcode was by far the worst of the lot, but at least it's not as bad as it was a year ago |
| [06:28:35] | ** tjcarter is in #mythtv talking about making Myth talk for blind people, and a clean-room understanding of Myth would certainly benefit that process. ** | |
| [06:28:45] | Dagmar: | SOme of the reasons I was bitching about authors needing floggings was that their private copies of each other libraries were leading to dreadful symbol collisions. |
| [06:29:10] | Dagmar: | Pfft. the hardest thing there is just getting damnable Festival working. |
| [06:29:19] | Dagmar: | dmix is proabbly a doddle next to that |
| [06:29:46] | Dagmar: | Frankly, I think it would probably be more sensible to use Festival to pre-render short wav files than to use it in realtime |
| [06:29:55] | tjcarter: | yeah, I think I'd be using something other than festival |
| [06:30:03] | Dagmar: | Festival is about all there is |
| [06:30:16] | tjcarter: | DECtalk exists, as does TTSynth, and Cepstral |
| [06:30:18] | Dagmar: | ...and as for making it speak Chinese or something, forget it. |
| [06:30:27] | Dagmar: | Those all sound fairly hideous tho |
| [06:30:47] | tjcarter: | Cepstral is supposedly very good |
| [06:31:16] | tjcarter: | And for the blind, DECtalk and TTSynth are pretty much standard. |
| [06:31:27] | Dagmar: | I suppose it's good that TTsynth can do Chinese, but beyond that it doesn't sound much better than hoary old SAM for the COmmodore 64. |
| [06:31:29] | tjcarter: | though pre-rendered sounds for menus would be good |
| [06:31:50] | tjcarter: | SAM wasn't a Klatt engine. |
| [06:31:50] | Dagmar: | ...and SAM was *tiny* |
| [06:32:12] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but it could do the 83-odd phonemes used in English with no trouble at all. |
| [06:32:13] | tjcarter: | Both DECtalk and TTSynth are Klatt designs. |
| [06:32:43] | tjcarter: | speak-n-spell |
| [06:32:44] | tjcarter: | =) |
| [06:33:09] | tjcarter: | <me> Watch TV <Myth> Wrong, try again. |
| [06:33:16] | Dagmar: | Looks like about the only benefit of a klatt engine is better intra-syllable smoothing |
| [06:33:25] | tjcarter: | yeah |
| [06:33:36] | Dagmar: | A big dictionary can accomplish that tho' |
| [06:33:48] | tjcarter: | when he came up with it, Klatt's design was revolutionary |
| [06:34:10] | tjcarter: | but I still prefer the basic rule synths to Klatt's design because they are 100% predictable. |
| [06:34:51] | tjcarter: | they don't try to hard to make a grouping of letters sound "correct", they just say what they see based on English rules. |
| [06:35:01] | tjcarter: | much better when editing, but they sound awful. |
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| [06:36:13] | tjcarter: | anyway, the conclusion I think we reached on #mythtv is that we should have sound files prerecorded by some sexy-sounding British girl for English |
| [06:36:21] | tjcarter: | for menus and things |
| [06:36:39] | tjcarter: | fall back on an external speech program for anything else |
| [06:36:41] | Dagmar: | There's a few companies out there that take that route actually. |
| [06:37:05] | tjcarter: | that can be festival if you're cheap or DECtalk or Cepstral or whatever you've got. |
| [06:37:08] | Dagmar: | They have a voice actor read page after page of pick phrases, and then they chop them all up into phonemes and feed them to a ruleset. |
| [06:37:27] | Dagmar: | The thing I like about Festival is that it's painstakingly exact about stuff. |
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| [06:37:43] | tjcarter: | it's also painstakingly slow. |
| [06:37:52] | Dagmar: | Yep. That it is, but I blame scheme |
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| [06:38:05] | tjcarter: | I swear, festival takes more CPU than an mpeg4 transcode. |
| [06:38:22] | Dagmar: | Again, scheme. |
| [06:38:48] | Dagmar: | No one ever praises the speed of a language that has a 1:2 relationship between atoms and parentheses. |
| [06:39:12] | UbAh: | lookign for DVB-C help |
| [06:39:16] | tjcarter: | ``Erik prefers scheme to lisp for some reason.. He says he doesn't want to defun things, he wants to put fun in. =) |
| [06:39:42] | UbAh: | I am using atscscan and I can not get any channels |
| [06:40:01] | UbAh: | does anyone know dvb-c? |
| [06:40:25] | Dagmar: | tjcarter: Consider this tho'. Myth isn't going to be emitting tons and tons of different phrases. It's only going to be saying a few things. A Klatt engine might be considered severe overkill with such a small problem set for it to solve |
| [06:40:35] | ** tjcarter can't afford to know dvb-c yet =) ** | |
| [06:40:50] | tjcarter: | Dagmar: program guide. |
| [06:41:20] | Dagmar: | tjcarter: Okay, that might be somewhat useful there |
| [06:41:29] | tjcarter: | exactly |
| [06:41:46] | tjcarter: | and Cepstral might even sound somewhat human reading the info pane |
| [06:43:01] | Dagmar: | ...provided they can put in a sexy irish accent. |
| [06:43:24] | tjcarter: | I am wondering if I can get Heather to do it =) |
| [06:43:29] | Dagmar: | Ouch. Cepstral requires licencing |
| [06:43:33] | tjcarter: | aussie girl with a wonderful voice |
| [06:43:35] | UbAh: | can anyone point me to a more apropiate channel to ask DVB questions in? |
| [06:43:48] | tjcarter: | UbAh: this is right place, but probably not right time. |
| [06:44:01] | tjcarter: | lots of North American people are asleep now. |
| [06:44:11] | UbAh: | what time should I come? |
| [06:44:18] | UbAh: | not me ;-p |
| [06:44:29] | Dagmar: | 1200 GMT or so |
| [06:44:32] | tjcarter: | me either |
| [06:45:01] | UbAh: | trouble is I am north american and work nights so in the day I am kaput... |
| [06:45:10] | tjcarter: | but anyway, a mailing list message if you give enough info to be helpful might get you a response within the next 6–12 hours. |
| [06:45:51] | RandomDude15: | hey guys |
| [06:45:52] | RandomDude15: | what should I do |
| [06:45:57] | RandomDude15: | about the init problem |
| [06:45:57] | RandomDude15: | ? |
| [06:46:04] | RandomDude15: | ill pastebin it for you guys |
| [06:46:10] | tjcarter: | RandomDude15: that might help |
| [06:46:19] | tjcarter: | Dagmar was suggesting so anyway |
| [06:46:41] | ** tjcarter has been using Myth all of .. a few days? ** | |
| [06:50:39] | ender224455_: | when you guys are navigating the main menu of Myth, is there a lag at all (even when you use a keyboard)? |
| [07:00:44] | tjcarter: | not in the main menu |
| [07:00:51] | tjcarter: | there is lag between menus |
| [07:06:14] | ender224455_: | I installed the radeon-debian drivers.. and now my computer doesn't seem to boot into anything (just a black screen after the inital bios stuff) |
| [07:06:40] | ender224455_: | it won't even boot off a CD |
| [07:08:15] | Dagmar: | Okay well that can't be the drivers you installed then |
| [07:08:30] | Dagmar: | If you're booting from CD, what's on your hard drive doesn't mean anything anymore |
| [07:09:19] | tjcarter: | ender224455_: did you power off the system after it didn't boot from HD? |
| [07:09:20] | ender224455_: | that's what I thought |
| [07:09:30] | ender224455_: | I held the power button down |
| [07:09:33] | tjcarter: | completely, not even just reset button |
| [07:09:35] | tjcarter: | okay |
| [07:09:36] | ender224455_: | oh |
| [07:09:36] | ender224455_: | no |
| [07:09:40] | ender224455_: | I just hit reset |
| [07:09:42] | ender224455_: | let me try that |
| [07:09:47] | tjcarter: | yeah, power off. |
| [07:11:10] | Dagmar: | When in doubt, a switch on the back of a power supply can collapse the state vectors |
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| [07:11:29] | Dagmar: | er... 'make damn sure' |
| [07:12:52] | ender224455_: | I just tried booting from two different boot CD's. The sceen shows all the "Press Del for setup stuff" but when it gets to the time to read the Boot CD, the CD drive briefly reads it, and the screen goes black and nothing happens |
| [07:12:56] | ender224455_: | and I have it set to boot off CD |
| [07:13:18] | ender224455_: | this is after installing the install-radeon-debian.sh thing |
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| [07:26:18] | tjcarter: | hmm, why would a remote myth frontend not show programs that a local one shows? |
| [07:26:48] | tjcarter: | I am thinking that the Mac frontend is not showing any mpeg4 transcoded shows |
| [07:26:53] | tjcarter: | couldn't swear to that. |
| [07:27:25] | tjcarter: | nevermind, it just needed to update its list or something |
| [07:30:46] | Dagmar: | Okay. This is bizarre. |
| [07:31:15] | Dagmar: | I went all through the nuvexport code thinking something was being looked on as an offset instead of a measurement (classic reason for things being off by one increment) only to find that it's not |
| [07:31:32] | Dagmar: | For some reason the default width set in nuvexportrc is actually 624 |
| [07:31:35] | Dagmar: | 8siogh* |
| [07:31:38] | Dagmar: | er *sigh* |
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| [07:32:36] | Dagmar: | I'm kinda cheating. The brother of my gf from high school basically runs community cable over in Knoxville, so I asked him what format they use to broadcast. |
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| [07:57:22] | UbAh: | silly question, I can search the mailing archive list but I can not post to the arcive does anyont have a link to the actual mailing list? |
| [08:00:28] | UbAh: | NM I am stupid... |
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| [08:19:48] | LoneShadow: | so where does MythVideo look for video files on the frontend or backend ? |
| [08:26:50] | xris: | front |
| [08:27:03] | LoneShadow: | hmm |
| [08:27:24] | LoneShadow: | so backend cant stream external video files to the front end |
| [08:27:39] | xris: | no |
| [08:27:58] | LoneShadow: | ok so nfs mount it is :D |
| [08:28:05] | Dagmar: | Yep |
| [08:28:08] | xris: | all of the plugins are frontend-only |
| [08:28:10] | xris: | at least for now |
| [08:28:50] | Dagmar: | Hey xris, in nuvexportrc was there a reason you set the default width to 624 pixels instead of 680? |
| [08:28:56] | Dagmar: | er 640 |
| [08:29:13] | xris: | Dagmar: most of the pirated stuff I found uses 624 |
| [08:29:21] | Dagmar: | Oh okay |
| [08:29:28] | xris: | and that gives room to chop off 2% or so of the broadcast overscan |
| [08:29:59] | Dagmar: | I was wondering about that, I couldn't fathom it |
| [08:30:03] | xris: | my own encodes are actually down to 512x384 because digital cable broadcasts at weird resolutions like 528x480 and 328x480 |
| [08:30:37] | Dagmar: | Ah, I'm mainly going for "just" 640x480 to reduce the amount of rescaling during playback. |
| [08:31:16] | xris: | rescaling is such a minor thing |
| [08:31:59] | Dagmar: | Rescaling by larger numbers is. I don't like how really weird things tend to pop up when one does a very small rescale. |
| [08:32:25] | Dagmar: | Too many times I've gotten images with one pixel notably wider than the rest, so I avoid rescaling unless it can be done by a reasonably large amount |
| [08:33:08] | xris: | ah |
| [08:33:13] | xris: | I've never seen a problem |
| [08:33:50] | xris: | but. that's why it's all handled in user settings. |
| [08:34:00] | xris: | I don't actually use the defaults anymore. |
| [08:34:08] | Dagmar: | I used to do a lot of pixel scribbling, and rescaling those things gets nasty sometimes |
| [08:34:21] | xris: | but with cropping, I'd rather resize down than up... 640 – 4% -> 640 is upscaling. |
| [08:34:45] | xris: | yes, but moving video is a different thing entirely |
| [08:34:45] | Dagmar: | I'm just not cropping at all if I can help it |
| [08:35:14] | Dagmar: | I'm trying to see whether or not my card is doing "the right thing" by recording stuff, and then going and getting a PD rip from someone, and selecting a few easy to spot frames to do a color comparison |
| [08:35:21] | xris: | all of my recordings have a 1–2% border of extra signal. no point in wasting bits encoding it. |
| [08:35:40] | xris: | all analog recordings have it |
| [08:35:45] | xris: | and apparently the digital ones do, too |
| [08:36:41] | Dagmar: | BTW, you'll probably find this amusing |
| [08:37:05] | Dagmar: | To figure out where that 624 was coming from I ran nuvexport using perl's masochistic tracing |
| [08:37:21] | Dagmar: | It only took about an hour and a half to figure out that I was an idiot. |
| [08:37:46] | Dagmar: | I regret ever having looked up what that switch was again |
| [08:38:36] | xris: | heh |
| [08:49:07] | LoneShadow: | do you folks use MythPhone on your tv ? |
| [08:50:11] | LoneShadow: | avoiding echo with the Mic sitting on top of the TV is a pain :( |
| [08:53:30] | Dagmar: | Use a headset |
| [08:53:37] | Dagmar: | Seriously. |
| [08:53:52] | mchou: | lol |
| [08:53:58] | mchou: | you guys are funny |
| [08:54:43] | mchou: | LoneShadow: also, please pick up your mobos. I wont want to be stuck w/ the waste disposal fee |
| [08:54:44] | LoneShadow: | hiya mchou |
| [08:54:50] | LoneShadow: | :P |
| [08:55:14] | LoneShadow: | I dont have much use for them |
| [08:55:15] | Dagmar: | LoneShadow: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/de . . . NTENTID=6339 <-- this thing is available for less than the MSRP just about everywhere |
| [08:55:28] | LoneShadow: | you can have them if you want it, else I can come and pick it up |
| [08:55:35] | mchou: | LoneShadow: yeah, but I dont want them :) |
| [08:56:14] | mchou: | LoneShadow: donate them to Weird Stuff. No need to pay disposal fee |
| [08:56:17] | LoneShadow: | can you get it to work ? I can pick it up tomm |
| [08:56:38] | mchou: | LoneShadow: nope, neither works |
| [08:56:48] | LoneShadow: | we are having eletronic waste disposal this week at work, I can give it to them |
| [08:57:02] | mchou: | well, at least the socket A one doesnt seem to work |
| [08:57:48] | mchou: | LoneShadow: ok. swing by later tommorow evening and pick them up |
| [08:57:49] | LoneShadow: | Dagmar: I think I will pass on mythphone for now |
| [08:58:08] | mchou: | LoneShadow: good plan |
| [08:58:32] | mchou: | LoneShadow: I always thought mythphone was a bit ludicrous |
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| [08:59:10] | LoneShadow: | I will taking one of my msntv to my parents place next week, I guess I will just put some sort video conferencing app without voice |
| [08:59:11] | mchou: | last thing I wanna care about is the phone when I'm in the middle of a show. |
| [08:59:32] | LoneShadow: | and use regular sip connection over phone for voice, hopefully it shouldnt be too much out of sync |
| [08:59:53] | tjcarter: | what does mythphone do exactly? |
| [09:00:14] | LoneShadow: | its a sip video app |
| [09:00:29] | tjcarter: | sip does video? |
| [09:00:42] | mchou: | tjcarter: it's a frontend to an IP PBX |
| [09:03:44] | tjcarter: | so a remote control for asterisk? |
| [09:04:05] | mchou: | tjcarter: more or less |
| [09:04:09] | ** tjcarter has considered setting that up for use with his broadvoice account ** | |
| [09:04:21] | LoneShadow: | tjcarter: its a video conferencing app over voip |
| [09:07:22] | Dagmar: | I should probably tap some of my local people to see how compatible with asterisk that is |
| [09:08:08] | Dagmar: | Two of the guys here locally do a lot of work with Asterisk, up to and including running their offices' phones off it |
| [09:08:39] | Dagmar: | THey might be amused to find that they can get their calls on their TVs |
| [09:08:41] | tjcarter: | LoneShadow: I repeat my earlier statement that I did not know SIP protocols could handle that. |
| [09:10:07] | tjcarter: | quality can't be that great if broadvoice's handling of audio only calls is an indication |
| [09:10:28] | mchou: | tjcarter: lol |
| [09:10:48] | mchou: | that's most likely broadvoice's fault |
| [09:11:15] | mchou: | not some sort of "physical" limitation...... |
| [09:12:48] | tjcarter: | actually I think it comes down purely to number of hops involved |
| [09:13:01] | tjcarter: | quality is 100x better now that I've moved |
| [09:18:52] | mchou: | I passed by a truly seedy part of town tonight..... |
| [09:19:34] | mchou: | I was enjoying a cool night ride on my bike after today's heatwave..... |
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| [09:20:27] | mchou: | and I saw the fugliest hookers drumming up business next to a bar/club |
| [09:20:35] | mchou: | gag city |
| [09:20:57] | tjcarter: | are you sure you weren't just watching NBC? |
| [09:21:12] | tjcarter: | bad dreams and all.. |
| [09:21:13] | mchou: | tjcarter: no, it wasnt nbc |
| [09:21:22] | mchou: | what's on NBC? |
| [09:21:57] | tjcarter: | various things--they want to be Fox. |
| [09:22:03] | mchou: | funny thing is I ALWAYS see cops there, and they dont do shit about the hookers |
| [09:22:38] | mchou: | least they could do is move those eyesores someplace else |
| [09:23:18] | tjcarter: | umm, I may not get my PVR-500 until Tuesday (maybe Monday), but in the meantime I have a small issue. Sound recorded through the audio jumper cable from my framegrabber is about half the volume it should be. |
| [09:23:26] | tjcarter: | where can I alter this? |
| [09:24:53] | mchou: | tjcarter: actually fox has some of my favorite shows. |
| [09:25:09] | mchou: | House M.D. |
| [09:25:17] | tjcarter: | I keep thinking I should be able to direct recording of the audio |
| [09:25:26] | tjcarter: | 0000:00:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) |
| [09:25:27] | mchou: | now that's a great show |
| [09:25:29] | tjcarter: | 0000:00:08.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) |
| [09:25:48] | tjcarter: | obviously lspci thinks I should be able to ;) |
| [09:27:51] | tjcarter: | 109e:0878 are the vendor/device |
| [09:28:54] | mchou: | Go Floyd!! |
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| [09:31:54] | Dagmar: | It's got it's own mixer element actually. |
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| [09:32:01] | Dagmar: | ...or most of them do anywya |
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| [09:41:23] | tjcarter: | What google tells me is that the audio drivers basically don't work pretty much ever |
| [09:41:31] | tjcarter: | so just buy a PVR card and be done |
| [09:41:40] | tjcarter: | (which I've done, but sheesh!) |
| [09:41:51] | Dagmar: | Ah well, when you get your PVR card you'll see why the people with them are all so gung-ho about it |
| [09:42:03] | tjcarter: | snd-bt87x seems not to actually do anything |
| [09:42:11] | tjcarter: | tvaudio much the same I think |
| [09:43:56] | tjcarter: | yeah, tvaudio is doing nothing |
| [09:45:36] | tjcarter: | same with snd-bt87x |
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| [09:56:19] | emja: | My X session has gone screwy (screen blank, no response) with a bunch of vids in my transcode queue. how can i get X back without losing the transcode queue? |
| [09:56:47] | emja: | I can login remotely from another machine and see that it's still running fine (sans X) |
| [09:56:51] | tjcarter: | frontend != backend |
| [09:57:03] | tjcarter: | backend is running the encodes |
| [09:57:10] | emja: | ahhh |
| [09:57:19] | tjcarter: | so if your video is not hosed totally, you can probably restart the frontend |
| [09:57:24] | emja: | so I can 'telinit 3; telinit five ? |
| [09:57:40] | emja: | very cool |
| [09:58:10] | emja: | time to give it the three finger salute then (ctrl-alt-bkspc) |
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| [10:00:03] | LLyric: | Any idea why mythtv just "randomly" fails to record stuff sometimes?? Also randomly fails to enter livetv mode. (yet "xine dvb://" seems to work every time) |
| [10:00:11] | LLyric: | Suspect dvb drivers? |
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| [10:13:22] | emja: | tjcarter: thanks for the help. for some reason X had moved from console 7 to console 8 |
| [10:13:27] | emja: | weird |
| [10:18:18] | LLyric: | Do you need to do a channel scan for both tuners if they're the same datasource? |
| [10:25:48] | ** tjcarter probably stupidly adds his Sabrent card to snd-bt87x.ko as a supported device to see if it can be fooled into supporting it ** | |
| [10:26:02] | tjcarter: | This is probably very dumb on my part |
| [10:26:19] | tjcarter: | it also might work =) |
| [10:29:42] | tjcarter: | crap, why can't these things issue some sort of message instead of failing to do anything at all silently? |
| [10:30:02] | tjcarter: | okay, that's it, I'm going to bed. |
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| [10:47:36] | emja: | had to reboot before some transcode jobs had started converting (files were ripped, just not conmverted). I've still got the vob directories and their contents. how do I get transcode to recognise them? |
| [10:47:43] | emja: | ie; without ripping the dvds again? |
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| [12:31:39] | raz_: | I have a question that's not quite MythTV related (at least, I think it's not), but I'm guessing that someone here will have some idea. Somewhere I've seen a device about the size of a trade-paperback which has an Ethernet connection, a TV/composite out, has _NO_ moving parts, can render an MPEG (or similar stream) to the TV and can by controlled by/run Linux. Has anyone here heard of such a device? |
| [12:32:03] | LLyric: | Yes |
| [12:32:15] | raz_: | OK, do you recall any specifics? |
| [12:33:04] | raz_: | (Make, model, ...)? |
| [12:33:13] | LLyric: | The one I saw had a digital tuner, recorded to a hard-disk, appeared as a usb2 storage device. Was about AU$120 iirc |
| [12:33:41] | LLyric: | So, moving parts |
| [12:34:12] | LLyric: | I guess if it wasn't being recorded, and was simple being tuned and sent to the tv, it wouldn't use the disk |
| [12:34:22] | LLyric: | Then it'd essentially be a small settop box |
| [12:35:12] | raz_: | A small settop box is pretty much what I'm thinking of, yes. My desire is a silent (not quiet, silent) box for the living room, atop the TV I guess, which could access material stored on a fileserver elsewhere in the house. |
| [12:37:29] | LLyric: | Well, you can get fanless EPIA motherboard/chips (I have one), which can net-boot linux etc, and I guess you can get laptop-style power supplies for them, which would be totally silent |
| [12:37:57] | LLyric: | But my case has a (small) conventional power supply which is a bit noisy. PLus 800Mhz is a bit slow |
| [12:38:20] | raz_: | That's certainly an approach. For the settop box though, I'm more interested in an off-the-shelf device; are such devices known to work with MythTV? |
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| [12:38:32] | LLyric: | No way |
| [12:38:40] | raz_: | Oh. |
| [12:39:47] | raz_: | In that case, the EPIA option: my looking at mini-itx.com and other places suggests that these devices are going to run far more than AU$120, and usually be somewhat larger anyway. |
| [12:40:04] | LLyric: | Yes |
| [12:40:22] | sadawson: | I have a small problem with my new mythtv-backend install |
| [12:40:34] | sadawson: | when I run mythtv-backend I get htis error mssage |
| [12:40:34] | raz_: | Hmm. |
| [12:40:35] | sadawson: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [12:40:52] | sadawson: | where is it that you set the username and password mythtv must use? |
| [12:40:54] | LLyric: | sadawson: that's like myth101. You need to enable to user in mysql |
| [12:41:05] | LLyric: | ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [12:41:13] | sadawson: | awesome |
| [12:41:27] | LLyric: | That sets the *client* |
| [12:41:36] | LLyric: | You also need to create that "account" in the mysql box |
| [12:42:46] | raz_: | This seems to me like one of those "I'm surprised that no-one's solved it yet" problems. Thanks for your comments. |
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| [12:43:20] | LLyric: | raz_: that's like myth101 too. Of course everyone wants a silent/quiet frontend |
| [12:43:31] | LLyric: | And it's pretty much possible, it's just a bit of a pain |
| [12:45:14] | sadawson: | now has access to the DB but now says to me config file /home/mythtv/.mythtv/PVR-150–1.xmltv does not exist, run me with --configure |
| [12:45:28] | raz_: | Which leads me back to my opening question. I know that this device exists, I've seen it, but did not have the presence of mind to note make and model when I saw it. <sigh> |
| [12:45:58] | LLyric: | raz_: I've heard of them, but they're not very flexible. |
| [12:46:11] | raz_: | (Oh, I should point out, it was not in a MythTV configuration; it was simply being used as a player for material on a fileserver, which happens also to be my requirement; I don't watch that much TV). |
| [12:46:23] | LLyric: | sadawson: that's your xmltv grabber attempting to fetch program information |
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| [12:48:03] | raz_: | :-) LIttle flexibility is required, just enough to play media from a remote server. |
| [12:48:56] | Speedy2: | raz_: Where did you see it? |
| [12:49:35] | raz_: | Random website I'm afraid. I've been exercising google for the last hour trying to regain clues. |
| [12:50:17] | Speedy2: | raz_: Do you recall ANY other details? CPU? Video card? |
| [12:50:53] | raz_: | Literally none, beyond that it had a wired (no WiFi) ethernet interface. |
| [12:52:15] | sadawson: | is ERROR: can't find DataSet a common error? |
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| [12:53:56] | Speedy2: | raz_: The Hauppauge MediaMVP? |
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| [12:54:39] | mikearthur: | I can't seem to get a lock for my channel search |
| [12:54:44] | raz_: | Impressive! Yes, that's the box? (Or, more accurately, it's the same shape and colour.) THANK YOU. |
| [12:54:49] | mikearthur: | I live in the UK, Haupage Nova DVB-T |
| [12:54:54] | raz_: | (s/?/./) |
| [12:54:58] | mikearthur: | 2006-07–23 13:53:47.342 DVB#0 DVB Signal Monitor Starting |
| [12:55:01] | mikearthur: | 2006-07–23 13:53:48.321 DVB#0 DVB signal 3d | snr 8000 | ber 3fff | unc 0 |
| [12:55:05] | mikearthur: | (repeat lots of times) |
| [12:55:10] | mikearthur: | 2006-07–23 13:54:20.340 DVB#0 WARNING – Status: NO LOCK! |
| [12:55:40] | mikearthur: | any ideas what to do? |
| [12:55:50] | Speedy2: | raz_: Was that it? |
| [12:56:21] | raz_: | Speedy2: hang on, now googling for original article |
| [13:00:18] | Sakaunix: | I have installed mythtv now all I see is snow when I launch the client? |
| [13:00:44] | Sakaunix: | how do you tune the stations in? |
| [13:06:25] | raz_: | Speedy2: hmm, can't find the original article, but the stuff I'm seeing suggests that this box is a workable approach, and it certainly looks like what I recall. |
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| [13:34:26] | mikearthur: | how long should mythfilldatabase take? |
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| [13:50:47] | fish_: | hi |
| [13:51:31] | fish_: | configuring the channels is such a pain in the ass when you have to do it manual :/ |
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| [14:24:58] | Zide: | are there any plans on rewriting mythmusic playlist management? |
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| [14:34:35] | mikearthur: | how long should mythfilldatabase take? |
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| [14:41:56] | Hoxzer: | mikearthur: depends sometimes it takes more than an hour |
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| [14:42:06] | mikearthur: | Hoxzer: cheers |
| [14:42:12] | mikearthur: | its on a P7000 |
| [14:42:14] | mikearthur: | P700 even |
| [14:44:20] | GreyFoxx: | The first time it runs it can take a while as it's pulling a lot more data than normal |
| [14:45:06] | fish_: | mikearthur: if you run some fetch script for your epg it could tage ages ;) |
| [14:45:08] | GreyFoxx: | Zide: Many people have saidthey were gonna do it, but not much ever came of that effort |
| [14:45:29] | fish_: | is it possible to use esd for mythtv sound output? |
| [14:45:30] | mikearthur: | its been going a while :D |
| [14:46:03] | Zide: | GreyFoxx: ah, too bad.. |
| [14:46:38] | GreyFoxx: | I think someone in the SoC might be working on it, but I'm not 100% sure at the moment |
| [14:47:21] | Zide: | SoC? |
| [14:47:39] | fish_: | i tried esddsp with mythfrontend but it doesn't work |
| [14:50:55] | GreyFoxx: | Zide: Googles Summer of Code |
| [14:51:23] | Zide: | aha |
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| [15:01:29] | scales: | anyone home? |
| [15:02:21] | Zide: | yes |
| [15:02:48] | scales: | do you know how to have myth transcode, or cut out the commersials? |
| [15:03:12] | Zide: | have no idea |
| [15:03:17] | Zide: | I don't even have a tuner card :P |
| [15:03:22] | scales: | hah |
| [15:03:23] | scales: | ok |
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| [15:13:55] | scales: | helloo helloooo |
| [15:14:16] | scales: | anyone else answer a quick question? it isnt technical |
| [15:14:25] | Zide: | just ask :) |
| [15:14:34] | scales: | well zide i already asked you |
| [15:15:04] | Zide: | ah ;) |
| [15:15:10] | scales: | can myth automatically cut out commercials after one has recorded? |
| [15:15:18] | GreyFoxx: | It can yes |
| [15:15:30] | scales: | ahh |
| [15:15:31] | scales: | ok |
| [15:15:35] | scales: | and how do i do that? |
| [15:15:41] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know |
| [15:15:46] | scales: | haha |
| [15:15:50] | scales: | why not? |
| [15:15:53] | GreyFoxx: | It's notsomething I use myth for |
| [15:16:00] | scales: | i see |
| [15:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | But It's there |
| [15:16:37] | scales: | well, when i schedule a recording, i have a few options, flag commercials, which i check. something about transcoding, |
| [15:16:38] | GreyFoxx: | It's just a matter of looking in the settings menaus |
| [15:16:47] | scales: | humm |
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| [15:17:48] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use mythfor transcoding or commercial detection |
| [15:17:48] | scales: | ahh |
| [15:17:53] | scales: | i think i found it |
| [15:17:55] | scales: | thanks |
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| [15:44:40] | mikearthur: | GreyFoxx: what do you use? |
| [15:48:30] | GreyFoxx: | For what ? |
| [15:59:05] | mikearthur: | for transcoding and commerical detection |
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| [16:10:30] | GreyFoxx: | mikearthur: I don't :) |
| [16:11:09] | GreyFoxx: | for the odd transcode I generall use virtualdub and such under windows and it's much faster tha the linux tools Iv'e seen |
| [16:11:18] | GreyFoxx: | and I don't bother with commericial detection |
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| [16:14:11] | Ancient123: | hey people |
| [16:14:19] | Ancient123: | one big question |
| [16:14:48] | Ancient123: | im gonna buy a tv tuner (and remote) today |
| [16:15:26] | Ancient123: | but i have a shuttle so i can only use PCI-express or USB2.0 |
| [16:15:47] | Zide: | they have pci-express nowadays? mice.. |
| [16:15:51] | Zide: | nice even |
| [16:16:25] | Ancient123: | are there any especially good cards (and are there any cards you guys know of that have hardware encoding) that are usb or pci-e ? |
| [16:16:38] | Ancient123: | im currently looking around new egg |
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| [16:18:12] | Ancient123: | yep ^.^ |
| [16:18:16] | Ancient123: | shuttles are nice |
| [16:18:20] | scales: | anyone using fedora? |
| [16:18:32] | scales: | shuttles are nice :) |
| [16:18:40] | Ancient123: | not me but chances are someone is |
| [16:18:48] | Ancient123: | <-- gentoo |
| [16:19:17] | Zide: | <-- too |
| [16:19:18] | Zide: | gen |
| [16:19:19] | Zide: | ;) |
| [16:20:05] | Ancient123: | so any ideas |
| [16:20:23] | Ancient123: | if not ill just order a remote wonder and worry about tv tuners later |
| [16:20:47] | scales: | what was the question? |
| [16:21:15] | Ancient123: | good tv tuners that are USB or PCI-express |
| [16:21:35] | Ancient123: | preferably with hardware encoding |
| [16:21:43] | Ancient123: | but thats not required |
| [16:22:37] | doggkruse: | Ancient123, how about firewire? |
| [16:22:44] | doggkruse: | do you have digital cable? |
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| [16:22:50] | scales: | i have a hauppauge wintvgo, and hauppauge pvr-150. also i have a ati remote wonder, and a MCE remote |
| [16:22:55] | Ancient123: | firewire works |
| [16:23:00] | Ancient123: | no regular |
| [16:23:08] | doggkruse: | you can get the motorola cable box |
| [16:23:14] | doggkruse: | for digital |
| [16:23:18] | Ancient123: | ya well |
| [16:23:21] | doggkruse: | and use it as the tuner over firewire |
| [16:23:23] | doggkruse: | :/ |
| [16:23:23] | Ancient123: | next year = dorms |
| [16:23:28] | doggkruse: | or so I've heard |
| [16:23:32] | doggkruse: | ah |
| [16:23:48] | Ancient123: | so basic cable |
| [16:23:54] | doggkruse: | :/ |
| [16:24:02] | LoneShadow: | I believe firewire setup needs powerful cpu/more storage/good decoder |
| [16:24:26] | doggkruse: | LoneShadow, I don't see why, its just getting mpeg2 over the firewire |
| [16:24:28] | Ancient123: | x2 3800 proc 2 gigs of ram >.> |
| [16:24:35] | Ancient123: | no worries |
| [16:24:42] | Zide: | it just streams to the drive, exact same amount of data |
| [16:25:00] | Ancient123: | nearing 2tb of hdd accessible to me >.> |
| [16:25:15] | doggkruse: | Ancient123, too bad all you get is basic cable |
| [16:25:19] | doggkruse: | ;) |
| [16:25:31] | Ancient123: | well here i get everything |
| [16:25:37] | Ancient123: | but next year its dorms >.> |
| [16:25:56] | Ancient123: | all i need is scifi and comedy |
| [16:26:00] | Ancient123: | :-p |
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| [16:26:20] | Ancient123: | and thats part of basic here ^.^ |
| [16:26:28] | LoneShadow: | hmm, I thought the sdtv from firewire is more than what you get from hauppauge |
| [16:26:33] | Zide: | I want scifi channel.. but it's not available in sweden, and I can't be arsed to put up a satdisc for just one channel :P |
| [16:27:32] | doggkruse: | Ancient123, check this out: |
| [16:27:33] | doggkruse: | http://www.directron.com/t55pop3.html |
| [16:27:40] | doggkruse: | I don't know about linux drivers though |
| [16:28:30] | Ancient123: | pci-express ? |
| [16:28:37] | LoneShadow: | http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Download/Demo.aspx |
| [16:28:49] | LoneShadow: | ATSC 720p is what you get for sdtv I thought |
| [16:28:54] | Ancient123: | zide.... |
| [16:28:59] | Ancient123: | your in sweden |
| [16:29:23] | doggkruse: | Ancient123, yes pcie |
| [16:29:39] | LoneShadow: | and my box has nightmares trying to play those 720p videos :) |
| [16:29:40] | Ancient123: | zide join the Piratpartiet |
| [16:29:49] | Zide: | Ancient123: again? |
| [16:32:04] | Ancient123: | lol |
| [16:32:22] | GreyFoxx: | 720p is HDTV, not SDTV |
| [16:32:28] | Ancient123: | the only good shows on scifi are online within an hour of release >.> |
| [16:32:39] | Ancient123: | 480i for the win ;-) |
| [16:33:06] | Zide: | Ancient123: my internet sucks for downloading.. |
| [16:33:22] | Zide: | and I can't be arsed to locate everything they show |
| [16:33:54] | Ancient123: | lol |
| [16:33:55] | Ancient123: | k |
| [16:34:18] | Ancient123: | scifi should do like free streaming or something ... wait we use linux >.< |
| [16:34:33] | doggkruse: | <------- ma user :D |
| [16:34:36] | doggkruse: | mac** |
| [16:34:48] | Zide: | well, they could stream it in a normal format :P |
| [16:34:52] | ** doggkruse loves wireless myth ** | |
| [16:35:08] | Ancient123: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116630 ? |
| [16:35:39] | Ancient123: | "Pros: Very nice tuner, good picture. Can be used on a mac with MyTV software" |
| [16:35:44] | Ancient123: | xD |
| [16:36:20] | doggkruse: | :/ I wonder how |
| [16:38:08] | Ancient123: | "will not a... More ? |
| [16:38:08] | Ancient123: | llow viewing or recording of basic HBO because of security encoding which Microsoft abides by. So if you want to tape or even watch The Sopranos via this tuner, you're out of luck." |
| [16:38:11] | Ancient123: | wtf ? |
| [16:38:33] | Ancient123: | will mythtv be affected by that ? |
| [16:38:37] | Ancient123: | >.> |
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| [16:44:42] | Ancient123: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116630 will that work for myth ? |
| [16:45:29] | doggkruse: | Ancient123, I don't know |
| [16:45:38] | doggkruse: | I think there are v4l drivers for it |
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| [16:52:37] | Ancient123: | hmm looks like it will work |
| [16:52:51] | Ancient123: | myth still does that wierd background transcoding right ? |
| [16:53:14] | Ancient123: | (where it converts the files to whatever you want in the background? |
| [16:53:56] | Ancient123: | so then i just have the card do mpeg 2 and then have myth transcode it to mp4 later on >.> |
| [16:55:53] | Ancient123: | damn |
| [17:04:36] | Ancient123: | its one of the cards that is under "known NOT to work |
| [17:05:59] | Captain_Murdoch: | the pvr-usb does not work, I believe there are drivers for the pvr-usb2 |
| [17:06:19] | Ancient123: | no |
| [17:06:23] | Ancient123: | they dont work |
| [17:06:25] | Ancient123: | >.> |
| [17:06:54] | Ancient123: | now im looking at a PLEXTOR PX-TV100U |
| [17:07:03] | Ancient123: | it doesnt have hardware encoding but... |
| [17:07:11] | Captain_Murdoch: | http://groups.google.com/group/novell.support . . . df3d25c9e1e1 |
| [17:07:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | google is your friend. |
| [17:09:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | I think that code is even going into 2.6.x sometime soon since it's in the merged V4L/DVB stuff. http://groups.google.com/group/linux.kernel/b . . . b7e1308ed9d4 |
| [17:10:38] | Captain_Murdoch: | not sure if it works 100% with Myth though, but I thought it had an 'ivtv emulation' mode or something. |
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| [17:13:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | you must not have even searched google, the first two results are links to the old and new driver webpages. previous result was in google groups search, I didn't search the web like I meant to. |
| [17:13:20] | janneg: | pvr-usb2 with kernel 2.6.18 should work with mythtv rev 10589 or later. |
| [17:14:47] | Captain_Murdoch: | thought it might. cool |
| [17:15:06] | janneg: | 2.6.18 extends v4l2 with a new mpeg encoding api. ivtv 0.8 will also use this api |
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| [17:19:27] | Ancient123: | >.> |
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| [17:53:32] | RedMercury: | i'm about to cry |
| [17:53:42] | RedMercury: | i need help else i'm not sure what i'll do :( |
| [17:54:17] | ** laga hands RedMercury some razor blades ** | |
| [17:54:30] | laga: | whining won't help much, just describe your problem |
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| [18:04:33] | RedMercury: | ahh sorry |
| [18:04:43] | RedMercury: | well basically im having linuxtv/v4l woes |
| [18:05:31] | RedMercury: | i get lots of crap like http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WrDbMM17.html |
| [18:05:49] | RedMercury: | i guess what i really want to ask is: what is the best/most common distro for myth? |
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| [18:15:14] | sha: | there are afaik some mythtv-distributions like knoppmyth |
| [18:15:17] | doggkruse: | :/ |
| [18:15:25] | doggkruse: | anyone here understand the myth protocol? |
| [18:15:44] | doggkruse: | I'm trying to debug why one frontend works but the other doesn |
| [18:15:46] | doggkruse: | t |
| [18:16:04] | doggkruse: | and all I can find is a slight difference in what each is sending to the backend |
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| [18:17:02] | doggkruse: | google shows little useful information about the protocol |
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| [18:23:07] | Blaidd: | I was wondering if someone mught have a quick second to help me out.. I'm having an issue with the tv stations not matching up to the listing the myth box has |
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| [18:29:10] | xris: | Blaidd: what source? |
| [18:29:36] | xris: | looks like you're in the US, are you set up properly with zap2it? |
| [18:30:02] | Blaidd: | I'm in canada, but i'm still using zap2it...I had it working before, but I had to reinstall due to an os screw up |
| [18:30:40] | xris: | make sure that your listings at zap2it are correct. |
| [18:30:55] | xris: | if they are, the easiest thing to do is "DELETE FROM program; DELETE FROM channel;" in mysql |
| [18:30:58] | xris: | then rerun mythfilldatabase |
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| [18:31:34] | Blaidd: | i'm not that familiar with mysql, does delete from take out all of the entries? |
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| [18:37:22] | xris: | yes |
| [18:37:32] | xris: | mythfilldatabase will put them basck in |
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| [18:45:51] | ender224455_: | is there a way to make a folder on a window's desktop that "links" with the video folder of myth, so that when they drag a movie from their machine into it, it will be put on the mythbackend? |
| [18:46:30] | Hoxzer: | Does mythtv's internal súbtitles support avi subtitles? |
| [18:46:47] | Hoxzer: | :D lol internal player I meant |
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| [18:58:19] | Juski: | uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| [18:58:31] | xris: | ? |
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| [18:58:55] | ** Juski is v. tired. just got back from lugradiolive :) ** | |
| [18:59:01] | psofa: | hi |
| [18:59:13] | psofa: | anyone using mythgame in trunk? |
| [18:59:43] | psofa: | when trying to view all games the fe crashes |
| [19:00:16] | psofa: | or even when highlighting the sort by year |
| [19:00:17] | Juski: | oops |
| [19:01:08] | Juski: | anyway.. everyone had a nice weekend? |
| [19:04:02] | Juski: | I'll be doing a post-mortem of people's queries & comments about mythtv from the show, possibly on the users mailing list. I'll try not to get flamed too badly ;-) |
| [19:05:10] | GreyFoxx: | psofa: Works fine for me |
| [19:05:14] | GreyFoxx: | try and get a backtrace |
| [19:05:55] | doggkruse: | xris: I tried poking the backend with telnet to debug the socket thing |
| [19:06:05] | doggkruse: | the same set of commands works from the linux backend |
| [19:06:27] | doggkruse: | but from a mac on the network, it has the writeblock failed message |
| [19:06:28] | psofa: | GreyFoxx, well its not the latest trunk must be a month old so ill check the commits in case sth is wrong :) |
| [19:06:30] | doggkruse: | even using telnet |
| [19:06:43] | doggkruse: | it sends about half the data befor that happens |
| [19:06:46] | doggkruse: | any ideas? |
| [19:06:49] | xris: | no clue |
| [19:06:56] | doggkruse: | :/ |
| [19:07:02] | doggkruse: | who is the sockets expert? |
| [19:07:03] | GreyFoxx: | psofa: I've not commited anything that shuld cause that |
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| [19:07:52] | ** doggkruse wonders if its mac specific ** | |
| [19:08:04] | psofa: | hmm |
| [19:08:28] | psofa: | maybe its a permission problem as a ticket suggests |
| [19:08:30] | GreyFoxx: | Two weeks ago I added a delay to the loading of the cover image for games |
| [19:09:44] | Juski: | damn. mythbackend 'forgot' all the upcoming recordings _again_ |
| [19:09:48] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm I wonder |
| [19:11:33] | psofa: | GreyFoxx, 2006-07–23 22:12:32.588 Unable to find image file: /usr/share/mythtv/themes/Titivillus/profind/progfind_top.png |
| [19:11:34] | psofa: | 2006-07–23 22:12:32.588 UIImageType::LoadImage() – Cannot find image: profind/progfind_top.png |
| [19:11:42] | psofa: | could these be any problem? |
| [19:12:07] | GreyFoxx: | I have no idea what that is :) |
| [19:12:12] | psofa: | :) |
| [19:12:28] | psofa: | i suppose a faulty theme or sth |
| [19:12:48] | GreyFoxx: | Well, when you updated yourSVNversion of myth, did you also update myththemes? Cause stuff changesin there too :) |
| [19:12:53] | Juski: | psofa: when I was working on my themes I had a segfault caused by missing stuff |
| [19:13:04] | psofa: | hmm |
| [19:13:07] | GreyFoxx: | /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/Titivillus/progfind/progfind_top.png |
| [19:13:13] | psofa: | then it wont harm changing the theme |
| [19:13:28] | GreyFoxx: | That profind was added to all of the themes |
| [19:13:32] | GreyFoxx: | progfind |
| [19:13:44] | GreyFoxx: | so you should just be able to udpate mythemes |
| [19:13:51] | psofa: | *1monthold trunk* |
| [19:14:32] | GreyFoxx: | Titivillus is NOT part of the main mythtv package. So updating "mythtv"does NOT update that theme |
| [19:14:35] | psofa: | damn i think ill have to update my myth install just to make sure |
| [19:14:44] | GreyFoxx: | So my question is , did you ALSO update myththeme to trunk as well |
| [19:15:05] | GreyFoxx: | most people update mythtv+mythplugins only |
| [19:15:09] | GreyFoxx: | and miss theme updates |
| [19:16:16] | ** GreyFoxx goes back to working on his basement ** | |
| [19:16:33] | psofa: | all things are the same 1 month old version |
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| [19:17:29] | GreyFoxx: | hmmmm. Actually that file has been in myththemes for a year for that theme |
| [19:17:35] | GreyFoxx: | something else is up ifit's missing |
| [19:18:45] | Dagmar: | Like a missing "g" if he pasted that rather than typed it |
| [19:19:46] | psofa: | ffs i changed theme and it works Oo |
| [19:19:56] | ** Juski goes to try to update to 0.19-fixes.. not sure it's such a good idea in this state but hey ** | |
| [19:19:58] | psofa: | but i also changed permissions |
| [19:20:06] | psofa: | not sure which did it |
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| [19:23:00] | psofa: | boo! |
| [19:23:06] | psofa: | bad bad zsnes |
| [19:23:12] | psofa: | it grabs my pointer |
| [19:23:32] | psofa: | so another user surfing the web on the other head is left helpless |
| [19:26:11] | Juski: | if this upgrade doesn't fix the vanishing recording schedules I'm gonna need help, in all seriousness. I updated some stuff recently, that I thought would be unrelated but erm... anyway I'll see how it goes |
| [19:27:40] | Juski: | it might help if I fsckign stop mythbackend for a while... |
| [19:29:22] | xris: | heh |
| [19:29:49] | xris: | I couldn't figure out why my seek tables were always missing until I realized that I hadn't restarted the frontend after the last upgrade (where they were split out to a different table) |
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| [19:32:26] | Juski: | assuming that the upgrade doesn't fix it, can mythbackend's logging verbosity be cranked right up? the info I get now is pretty scant IMHO |
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| [19:36:01] | Juski: | I guess I could always run mythbackend --verbose db in a terminal sesh & keep an eye on it for a few days |
| [19:37:03] | Juski: | it's so ironic. there I was 'selling' mythtv to people all weekend, extolling all its virtues.. then I come home to a poorly system |
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| [19:41:21] | orpheus: | I've having trouble getting anything on a freshly-installed ubuntu system to open mythtv's .nuv's |
| [19:41:40] | orpheus: | this means no mythweb, as well |
| [19:41:43] | xris: | orpheus: that's because mythtv is about the only thing that can do that |
| [19:41:46] | orpheus: | anyone have any ideas |
| [19:41:49] | orpheus: | ah |
| [19:42:21] | xris: | there are supposedly some patches to mplayer, but mythtv's nuv files are a modified version of the standard (which I believe died off) |
| [19:42:30] | orpheus: | yeah, i know that, but if there's a way to do it under windows, and there was a way to do it before i reinstalled, then there ought to be way to do it now |
| [19:42:37] | xris: | anyway, you should be running .19 if you're not. the ubuntu guys refuse to update to .19 |
| [19:42:51] | xris: | dsmyth.sf.net for windows drivers |
| [19:42:52] | orpheus: | the server is a debian server |
| [19:43:15] | xris: | are you running .18 or .19? |
| [19:43:22] | Juski: | the guy behind Diva was asking about mythtv's own video format.. he's looking for something he can use for diva's own filing |
| [19:43:23] | orpheus: | and i already have it woring on my roomate's windows box, but it's sad that i can't get it to work here |
| [19:43:25] | orpheus: | .19 |
| [19:43:38] | xris: | orpheus: why not just install mythfrontend? |
| [19:44:05] | orpheus: | well, this machine is ubuntu, which means .18 unless i go through some hoops |
| [19:44:14] | Juski: | use a knoppmyth cd... |
| [19:44:27] | Juski: | or install the dsmyth stuff |
| [19:44:31] | Juski: | on the windows box |
| [19:44:37] | xris: | orpheus: there are .19 packages for ubuntu |
| [19:44:43] | xris: | just not official ones |
| [19:44:48] | orpheus: | cool, when did that happen... oh |
| [19:44:54] | orpheus: | good |
| [19:45:39] | orpheus: | i'd prefer to use the mythweb interface here, but if only one thing works... unofficial mythfrontend packages it is |
| [19:45:56] | Juski: | thehamsta.net :-) |
| [19:46:03] | xris: | mythweb is not a viewer |
| [19:46:21] | xris: | orpheus: or get yourself a hardware encoder card so that it records as .mpg |
| [19:46:24] | Diabolic: | So, mythfrontend is just a simple box with a display card? Nothing more needed? |
| [19:46:59] | xris: | mythfrontend is a program. |
| [19:47:07] | orpheus: | a display, a keyboard, and a good network connection to the server |
| [19:47:17] | orpheus: | with mythfrontend installed |
| [19:47:30] | Diabolic: | Yup. |
| [19:47:30] | Juski: | good == minimum 10mbit or 'g' wireless |
| [19:47:49] | orpheus: | xris: i have no reason to replace my cards, i have more than enough cpu time laying around to encode with |
| [19:48:08] | xris: | orpheus: just suggesting it as an option (better quality, too) |
| [19:48:18] | Diabolic: | Well, I'll have mythbackend and mythfrontend on the same machine anyway. |
| [19:48:32] | Juski: | miles better quality, I feel it necessary to add ;-) |
| [19:49:01] | xris: | I still like my digital cable with firewire. |
| [19:50:14] | xris: | orpheus: like I said, mplayer can play nupplevideo files. Just can't seek/ff/rw |
| [19:50:17] | orpheus: | what cards do you people have? |
| [19:50:20] | Juski: | you know what the biggest gripe people I met this weekend have with mythtv is? that it uses mysql ! Oh and apparently it's uber-hard to install – its reputation precedes it somewhat. where the hell all that has come from I don't know |
| [19:50:31] | xris: | orpheus: pvr-150 or 500 would be the one to get. |
| [19:50:37] | laga: | hi Juski! |
| [19:50:44] | orpheus: | maybe it comes from 2 years ago, it's darned easy now |
| [19:50:56] | xris: | Juski: it used to be a huge pain. that was years ago, though |
| [19:51:04] | orpheus: | is the pvr-500 a dual? |
| [19:51:08] | xris: | orpheus: yes |
| [19:51:12] | Juski: | heya laga! |
| [19:51:15] | xris: | it's basically two 150's |
| [19:51:26] | orpheus: | do i wanna know how much they cost tho? |
| [19:51:31] | xris: | costs slightly more than 2 150's |
| [19:51:40] | xris: | 150 costs around $60 for the mce (no remote) version |
| [19:52:05] | orpheus: | ow, bt878's are like $10 at any computer show |
| [19:52:13] | Juski: | well xris I had a lot of defending to do. at breakfast today I overheard some stuff that made me want to .. well I wasn't best pleased at what I heard |
| [19:52:15] | orpheus: | but quality is good to have... |
| [19:52:40] | xris: | Juski: sort of like how I felt when I suggested that ffmpeg might have some problems with their documentation. |
| [19:52:55] | xris: | orpheus: miles of improvement in quality. |
| [19:53:04] | xris: | or you could do what I did and go straight to firewire. |
| [19:53:12] | orpheus: | ? |
| [19:53:12] | laga: | Juski: how was it? |
| [19:53:48] | xris: | orpheus: HD cable box in the US has a firewire port. mythtv plugs straight in and you get the pure digital stream |
| [19:53:55] | Juski: | oh, and I can't begin to describe how I felt when people had assumed I'm like a major developer, and they were like "why do YOU... I WANT.. why do YOU.. I WANT". it was funny when folks thought we were there to sell boxen though |
| [19:54:05] | Juski: | laga: very interesting, in good and in bad ways |
| [19:54:10] | xris: | lol |
| [19:54:11] | Juski: | great fun though! |
| [19:54:16] | laga: | heh |
| [19:54:20] | laga: | i want pictures. |
| [19:54:26] | Juski: | I took one picture |
| [19:54:31] | laga: | that's a lot. |
| [19:54:33] | Juski: | too bloody busy to take pictures! |
| [19:54:36] | laga: | heh |
| [19:54:41] | orpheus: | xris: what cable box is this, and where do i get one? |
| [19:54:45] | Juski: | we _never_ stopped all weekend |
| [19:54:48] | xris: | orpheus: you have digital cable? |
| [19:55:08] | Juski: | ludovic was amazed a) at the turnout & b) the amount of attention we got :-) |
| [19:55:25] | psofa: | hmm |
| [19:55:27] | orpheus: | xris: i've been looking at switching |
| [19:55:27] | psofa: | :( |
| [19:55:34] | psofa: | damn nvidia drivers |
| [19:55:43] | laga: | Juski: nice :) |
| [19:55:50] | orpheus: | xris: comcast has done me wrong enought times |
| [19:55:52] | xris: | orpheus: if you already have digital, it's easy.. you just rent an HD box for a month to try it out. |
| [19:55:53] | psofa: | if i change video resolution it looses the overscan |
| [19:55:54] | Juski: | probably the biggest point from a UK point of view is that almost everybody we spoke to just wants to go out & buy a ready made box |
| [19:56:04] | laga: | lugradio.org seems to be down :/ |
| [19:56:06] | Juski: | psofa: duh! |
| [19:56:20] | xris: | I guess you could upgrade to digital + hd for a month, too, but it's obviously slightly more expensive. |
| [19:56:38] | Juski: | laga: I'm not even gonna talk about the impromptu interview I was asked to do.. you'll have to listen to the show to find out what happenned |
| [19:57:00] | laga: | Juski: is that show online yet? |
| [19:57:03] | Juski: | and yes, sadly there will be video footage of me ham-fistedly doing a demo |
| [19:57:12] | Juski: | (on the main stage) |
| [19:57:25] | laga: | :) |
| [19:57:51] | Juski: | laga: lol. you have to be kidding! they recorded every BOF session, every speaker in audio & video from both days, so a lot of work needs to be done |
| [19:58:16] | laga: | Juski: *shrug* that's what caffeine is for ;) |
| [19:58:32] | laga: | i was just wondering because that might explain why lugradio.org is offline |
| [19:58:41] | xris: | orpheus: the problem with the firewire thing is that legally they're only required to provide you with access to the OTA stations... many places give you access to everything (I even get HBO, though I do pay for it), and that's when it's worth the upgrade. |
| [19:58:43] | Juski: | 3.30 am I went to bed today. at breakfast at 8am |
| [19:59:05] | Juski: | the 80 mile drive home was erm.. tricky ;-) |
| [19:59:13] | laga: | Juski: lots of drinking? :) |
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| [19:59:27] | Juski: | I was drunk, yes |
| [19:59:33] | laga: | o/ |
| [20:00:02] | Juski: | I even danced to, but there's no video of that AFAIK |
| [20:00:58] | Juski: | I _hope_ upon _hope_ there's no video of it |
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| [20:01:19] | ** laga does ** | |
| [20:01:26] | Juski: | rofl. I bet! |
| [20:03:02] | Juski: | all I'll say for now about the radio interview is that the subject of Jono's mailing list post and the resultant flaming came up. it's not easy being devil's advocate |
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| [20:03:58] | laga: | jono? |
| [20:05:06] | Juski: | he umm... posted a 'usability review' and it went about as downhill as it can go. jono is the main man of lugradio |
| [20:05:25] | orpheus: | xris: where was the repository for mythtv-frontend .19? |
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| [20:05:45] | xris: | orpheus: I don't know, actually... someone posted it here the other day, though. |
| [20:05:47] | Juski: | laga: paste key at the ready... ;-) |
| [20:05:48] | orpheus: | i found one, but it has some dependencies it couldn't find in the official dapper stuff |
| [20:05:55] | riddlebox: | hello, I want to put a remote on my system, but where can I get the IR stuff to plugin to the pc? |
| [20:05:58] | orpheus: | kinda disconcerting |
| [20:06:00] | Juski: | thehamsta.net something or tother |
| [20:06:02] | laga: | Juski: there was another usability report from some finnish (iirc) guys |
| [20:06:05] | xris: | orpheus: hmm, I actually thought they had .19 for dapper |
| [20:06:09] | orpheus: | that was , on well |
| [20:06:16] | orpheus: | *that was it |
| [20:06:21] | orpheus: | *oh well |
| [20:06:26] | laga: | xris: not in an official repo IIRC |
| [20:06:34] | orpheus: | dear lord, i can't type |
| [20:06:47] | Juski: | our stand was right next to ubuntu aswell, but I never thought of a tactful way of asking why mythtv isn't in the official stuff |
| [20:07:21] | xris: | it is. just not the latest |
| [20:07:36] | laga: | gotta bug them ubuntu guys when 0.20 comes out. |
| [20:07:40] | Juski: | oh how we laughed at the amount of t-shirts debian had left over. they had 2 tables and only seemed to be there to sell t-shirts |
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| [20:09:27] | Juski: | oh laga: bad news though. I came home to an empty recording schedule again :-/ |
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| [20:09:38] | xris: | laga: the problem is that they have some philosophical reason for not upgrading the packages. |
| [20:09:47] | Juski: | mythbackend --resched fixed it, but it's not good |
| [20:09:49] | xris: | they've been asked many times about.19 but refuse to update it |
| [20:12:28] | Juski: | so, something has to be at least 12 months old before they consider it reliable enough? |
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| [20:14:55] | Blaidd: | xris: Hey sorry that took me so long.. i've been trying to get the whole box up and running, so i was doing a few things. That didnt' seem to work, and the video's now coming through in black and white.. could it be something to do with my tuner drivers? |
| [20:16:24] | xris: | Blaidd: that definitely sounds like a problem, yes |
| [20:17:00] | Blaidd: | hmm.. okay.. i guess i'll go driver hunting then |
| [20:17:20] | laga: | xris: i believe the stuff in universe can get upgrqaded, but mythtv isd part of the multiverse repository. i'm not sure how that could be handled. |
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| [20:17:24] | laga: | upgraded* |
| [20:17:33] | laga: | xris: and dapper was released long after 0.19 IIRC |
| [20:17:38] | jezzar: | hi |
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| [20:21:46] | RedMercury: | anyone here use a fusionhdtv board? |
| [20:21:51] | jezzar: | ok, it seems i'm not interrupting anybody... i've got trouble with mythtv... i'm on it since 12.00 (High noon) in germany, now it's 22:22... so it's not that i haven't tried everyhing i could find elsewhere... actually i think i'm pretty far already. |
| [20:22:20] | jezzar: | ok, it seems i'm not interrupting anybody... i've got trouble with mythtv... i'm on it since 12.00 (High noon) |
| [20:24:17] | jezzar: | short: i've got dvb-t running with kaffeine, i'm in germany, i've problems getting mythtv to find the dvb-t channels. I have the mythfilldatabase stuff working. |
| [20:24:56] | xris: | jezzar: you might want to try #mythtv-de for local help |
| [20:25:06] | jezzar: | i'm on Ubuntu 6.06, mythtv 18.1, when i try to scan for my dvb-t channels, i get the message DVB#0 WARNING – Unsupported bandwidth parameter. |
| [20:25:11] | laga: | !trout xris he-beat-me-to-it |
| [20:25:12] | ** MythLogBot slaps xris with a he-beat-me-to-it trout on behalf of laga... ** | |
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| [20:26:46] | jezzar: | yes, thanks, but i don't think the error message is a result of my location... i'll try #mythtv-de anyways, thanks for the info |
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| [20:28:33] | Blaidd: | do any of you folks know where i should find bttv in kubuntu? |
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| [20:29:42] | Juski: | in the kernel |
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| [20:31:09] | Juski: | that myth upgrade went scarily smoothly. dunno if I like that or not (I never do). heh |
| [20:34:23] | Juski: | oh btw I met a developer from freevo. freevo2 sounds interesting. iirc they're gonna be using gstreamer & whizzbang UI stuff |
| [20:34:36] | xris: | Blaidd: it should be included in the kernel |
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| [20:35:47] | Juski: | wth? QA Notice: ECLASS 'phpconfutils' inherited illegally in www-apps/mythweb-0.19 |
| [20:35:50] | ** Juski ignore it ** | |
| [20:36:24] | xris: | weird |
| [20:38:00] | Juski: | if this breaks, I might reinstall the system altogether. I think it was kinda creaky in the 1st place. 'my 1st linux box' might have been too ragged around the edges |
| [20:38:13] | Dibblah: | Argh. Gentoo. Run for the hills! |
| [20:39:40] | Juski: | yeh laga.. you have no idea how much attention the little ole s100 box got! expect prices on ebay to go daft anytime soon |
| [20:39:52] | laga: | Juski: does mythtvtalk.com ever offer you to download posting.php? f'ing annoying. |
| [20:39:58] | laga: | Juski: damn. |
| [20:40:07] | Juski: | laga: not that I know of |
| [20:40:45] | Juski: | got into a major debate last night about the mystery of who pays for all the OSS hosting. a very circular discussion |
| [20:41:45] | RedMercury: | hehe |
| [20:42:09] | RedMercury: | its some order of zealots, living in the antartic with a bunch of penguins |
| [20:43:33] | laga: | naw, some weird french guy living in the UK in our case |
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| [20:44:07] | Juski: | .. one who has some very interesting stories to tell :) |
| [20:44:41] | Juski: | I think we (all the mythtvtalk team) should do another show.. all together in one place |
| [20:44:57] | Juski: | and we should kidnap a developer & make them come along too |
| [20:45:05] | laga: | heh |
| [20:45:12] | laga: | stuarta maybe, or janne ;) |
| [20:45:46] | Juski: | get a sponsor, pay my air fare to CES ... you know it makes sense |
| [20:47:01] | Juski: | I kind of didn't know what to expect about this weekend, apart from maybe disillusioned about it. infact though I feel totally the opposite way – even more 'community' oriented & motivated |
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| [20:48:09] | Juski: | we have about 30 cds left – so not entirely sure what to do with them |
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| [20:50:27] | liran_: | Juski: care to try a plugin im working on? |
| [20:53:07] | laga: | a motivated juski. uh-oh. |
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| [20:59:37] | Fnc: | whats an s100? |
| [20:59:53] | laga: | 22:43 < Falballa> laga: 's100' could be (#1) http://serve.mythwiki.de/s100/pictures/, or (#2) http://www.juski.co.uk/s100, or (#3) http://www.zenega-user.de, or (#4) http://www.mythwiki.de/index.php/S100 |
| [21:00:01] | laga: | we totally need such a bot for this channel. |
| [21:00:05] | laga: | Beirdo: get coding! :) |
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| [21:02:09] | Juski: | liran_: I have other concerns at the moment. like getting my mythbackend working properly & reliable again. hope 0.19-fixes, fixes it |
| [21:05:10] | Juski: | laga: btw watch this space: http://www.flickr.com/groups/lugradio/pool/ |
| [21:05:43] | liran_: | Juski: alright. goodluck. |
| [21:06:18] | Juski: | if I can't fix it I'll have to call in the _big_guns_ |
| [21:06:27] | Juski: | i.e. whine until someone answers me in here :-P |
| [21:06:43] | Juski: | </kidding> |
| [21:08:36] | laga: | liran_: what plugin? |
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| [21:11:45] | Juski: | suppertime :-) |
| [21:14:42] | liran_: | laga: checks your emails. |
| [21:15:30] | laga: | liran_: ah, nice |
| [21:16:31] | liran_: | laga, you wanna check it? |
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| [21:16:57] | laga: | liran_: sorry, i'm short on time tonight :/ |
| [21:17:06] | liran_: | ok :P |
| [21:18:31] | mikearthur: | how would I watch Live TV without mythtvfrontend over a network? |
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| [21:21:16] | xris: | mikearthur: you wouldn't |
| [21:21:29] | xris: | not with mythtv, anyway |
| [21:21:55] | mikearthur: | ok |
| [21:22:06] | mikearthur: | can you run mythtvfrontend in a window rather than fullscreen? |
| [21:23:15] | xris: | yes |
| [21:23:18] | xris: | it's in the config |
| [21:25:30] | xris: | it's unfortunately not something you can do on the fly. have to set the option and restart the frontend |
| [21:26:01] | mikearthur: | ok, np |
| [21:28:23] | GreyFoxx: | You also can't dynamically resize the mythfrontend "window" |
| [21:28:34] | GreyFoxx: | so you would have to set it to the exact size you want |
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| [21:29:29] | laga: | mythfrontend --geometry 800x600 :) |
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| [21:34:25] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Handy :) I always just used the menus but that is more convenient for the rare "Window" run |
| [21:35:07] | laga: | hehe :) |
| [21:35:12] | laga: | i always use it on my desktop boxen |
| [21:35:27] | russellb: | laga: yeah, thanks for pointing that out :) |
| [21:35:31] | GreyFoxx: | I do on my work desktop |
| [21:35:37] | GreyFoxx: | but I just hardcode it |
| [21:35:43] | laga: | heh |
| [21:35:53] | laga: | mythfrontend --help does help :) |
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| [21:49:00] | mikearthur: | where do I select the backend server in mythfrontend? |
| [21:49:18] | laga: | you don't, iirc, it's stored in the database. |
| [21:50:07] | mikearthur: | well my frontend can't seem to connect to the backend :s |
| [21:50:38] | laga: | you should take a look at those logfiles then, and at the output of mythfrontend |
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| [21:53:28] | LoneShadow: | mikearthur: run mythfrontend and choose setup, I think you give the ip address for the backend over there |
| [21:53:36] | mikearthur: | doesn't look like it |
| [21:53:49] | LoneShadow: | hold on lemme check mine |
| [21:54:54] | LoneShadow: | load mythfrontend, go to Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> General -> Hostname: ip address of backend |
| [21:55:07] | laga: | wow, i didn't know that. |
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| [22:03:16] | mikearthur: | would me recording make the frontend server uncontactable? |
| [22:03:29] | laga: | there's no such thing :) |
| [22:03:59] | RedMercury: | any uk dvb-t users here? |
| [22:03:59] | mikearthur: | woops, other way round I meant :) |
| [22:04:04] | mikearthur: | RedMercury: |
| [22:04:05] | mikearthur: | aye |
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| [22:04:45] | RedMercury: | dont suppose you use the crystal palace beacon do you? :p |
| [22:04:54] | RedMercury: | ahh, edinborough |
| [22:04:56] | RedMercury: | maybe not ;) |
| [22:05:06] | RedMercury: | the scan for my card's driver is broken :/ |
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| [22:08:37] | mikearthur: | using scan or using mythtv |
| [22:08:47] | mikearthur: | whats the UK TV format for freeview? |
| [22:09:48] | RedMercury: | im using dvbscan |
| [22:10:02] | mikearthur: | use scan and the config file |
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| [22:15:39] | jezzar: | sor, what's the german channel called again? |
| [22:15:46] | laga: | #mythtv-de ;) |
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| [22:15:55] | jezzar: | you rock :D |
| [22:17:03] | GreyFoxx: | Interesting. I can repeatedly take down X when I start p[layback with mythtv, but mplayer/xine are fine with the same video. This should be fine to track down :) |
| [22:17:13] | GreyFoxx: | s/fine/fun |
| [22:17:44] | jams: | GreyFoxx- on freebsd? |
| [22:17:48] | GreyFoxx: | OpenBSD |
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| [22:18:01] | GreyFoxx: | I was just updating myth to run on 3.9+-current |
| [22:18:15] | GreyFoxx: | I did it last summer for 0.18–0.18.1 |
| [22:18:57] | ** GreyFoxx recompiles a debug version ** | |
| [22:21:35] | GreyFoxx: | Does myth still work on FreeBSD? is the PVR250 driver for freebsd still functional ? |
| [22:23:14] | jams: | no clue |
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| [22:39:54] | funkmaster: | hey ppl, i was wondering, can i record X amount of shows running at the same time on X different channels with only one tv card? |
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| [22:42:13] | Cyberai: | funkmaster, no |
| [22:42:59] | funkmaster: | hm so for each similtanous recording i need anothe tv-card? |
| [22:43:13] | funkmaster: | also with digital tv, analog, cable, no difference? |
| [22:43:44] | GreyFoxx: | 1recording per card,regardless of the input used |
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| [22:45:24] | funkmaster: | hm that sucks |
| [22:45:29] | funkmaster: | but thx for the nfo |
| [22:45:59] | laga: | the situation for DVb might change in the fture, though. there are plans (more or less) to allow mutiple recordings from one transponder |
| [22:46:06] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [22:46:46] | ** laga waits for gnugpg to get enough entropy *sigh* ** | |
| [22:48:09] | RedMercury: | laga – isnt there 6 channels muxed together on each transport? |
| [22:48:23] | laga: | depends. |
| [22:48:47] | RedMercury: | 2 for hdtv |
| [22:48:48] | GreyFoxx: | some more,some less |
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| [22:49:02] | GreyFoxx: | depends entirely on the company |
| [22:49:09] | RedMercury: | well, i guess it would make sense to be able to rip other channels from the same stream |
| [22:49:35] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, cause technically they are all coming it,we/the dvb drivers are just filtering out what we don't want |
| [22:53:33] | Cyberai: | I need help with my transcode setup, currently under my DVD RIP setup the command is "mplayer dvd://%t -dvd-device %d -fs -zoom -vo x11 -channels %c" I am thinking the % stuff is wrong. Can anyone tell me whant they have in that setup line? |
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| [22:56:49] | Juski: | RedMercury: freeview stuff (uk dvb-t) is mpeg2 ts |
| [22:58:17] | Juski: | falling asleep on the couch sucks |
| [22:58:31] | ** Juski is off to bed. g'night all ** | |
| [22:58:44] | GreyFoxx: | night |
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| [23:23:05] | Cyberai: | I'm having a problem with a DVD in Xine. I get the error "error cracking CSS key". But I was able to play this dvd before I rebuilt my box. Any ideas? |
| [23:24:59] | xris: | Cyberai: that would involve something like decss, which isn't legal in the US so we shouldn't talk about it here... but changes are that info will give you what you need. |
| [23:25:47] | Zide: | are we really in the US? the internet is pretty global.. :P |
| [23:26:59] | ** laga feels pretty cosmopolitan. ** | |
| [23:27:19] | Cyberai: | im not in US |
| [23:27:22] | xris: | Zide: the devs are, and mythtv is based in the US, so this channel obeys US laws |
| [23:27:23] | AngryElf: | i'm having this problem that my upcoming recordings list up and disappears....mythlog reports mySQL errors "QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query, MySQL server has gone away" — i'm using mysql v.4.1.15 |
| [23:27:27] | yz: | your can talk all u want .... freedom of speech ... talk dunt mean u doin anything |
| [23:27:33] | AngryElf: | i'm not even sure how to start troubleshooting this, because i can't make the error occur |
| [23:27:44] | xris: | AngryElf: did you recompile recently? |
| [23:27:48] | AngryElf: | i come back a day later and it's happened....then restart mythbackend and everything is fine |
| [23:27:57] | AngryElf: | no? |
| [23:27:59] | Cyberai: | xris is decss the libdvdread/libdvdbav/libdvdcss ? |
| [23:28:12] | AngryElf: | xris should i try 19.1? |
| [23:28:19] | Zide: | xris: decided by the ops or by someone else? |
| [23:28:20] | xris: | AngryElf: that might help. |
| [23:28:31] | xris: | Zide: ops/devs |
| [23:28:34] | Zide: | oki |
| [23:28:39] | laga: | yz: especially if it's not in english. |
| [23:28:49] | xris: | Cyberai: you're on the right track |
| [23:29:02] | Cyberai: | ok |
| [23:29:12] | Zide: | Cyberai: we can't answer that, but yes it is ;D |
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| [23:30:30] | xris: | Zide: and freenode, to some degree |
| [23:30:50] | qfx: | Don't suppose anyone has an auto-start script for Myth? I'd like to set it up as a service on Suse |
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| [23:31:14] | Juski: | hate being this tired & not being able to sleep |
| [23:31:37] | xris: | Juski: warm milk and turkey. heh |
| [23:31:51] | xris: | qfx: check out the atrpms rpm packages. |
| [23:32:24] | Zide: | xris: so a whole network is censored because of some dumbf**ked law in the US? damn, where are the world going.. :P |
| [23:32:57] | laga: | Juski: want some esoteric help? ;) |
| [23:33:02] | xris: | Zide: not censored, not required, just encouraged. we'd just rather not piss off the US authorities. |
| [23:33:44] | Zide: | xris: yeah, but we shouldn't have to worry about that in a sane world.. |
| [23:33:54] | Juski: | I think just watching gentoo emerge mythcontrols might do the trick |
| [23:34:34] | laga: | Juski: your blood pressure might rise if it errors out on ya |
| [23:35:19] | qfx: | xris: I'm on Suse, and when I was using Fedora I had terrible times with atrpms :( |
| [23:35:20] | xris: | Zide: of course not. in a sane world, that law wouldn't exist. |
| [23:35:35] | xris: | qfx: the startup script should be easily modified to fit your needs, though. |
| [23:35:42] | Zide: | ..in a sane world, most of the US shouldn't exist imo.. :P |
| [23:35:49] | Zide: | at least not politicians and lawyers |
| [23:35:57] | Zide: | +the |
| [23:36:11] | qfx: | xris: thanks :) If nobody has one I'll definitely look into that line |
| [23:36:25] | Zide: | hold on, feds knocking on the door.. brb.. ;) |
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| [23:42:44] | Juski: | laga: we're gonna sell mythtv case badges btw |
| [23:43:02] | GreyFoxx: | Cool. I was gonna look into getting something like that done up |
| [23:44:23] | Cyberai: | does anyone have a good setup line for mplayer in the DVD rip setup menu? |
| [23:44:41] | Cyberai: | I wanna rip some home movies I ahve on DVD |
| [23:44:57] | Cyberai: | but my mplayer stup doesn't seem to be right |
| [23:45:23] | Zide: | I have always used wine+dvdshrink on the ws.. |
| [23:46:00] | Cyberai: | right now it's "mplayer dvd://%t -dvd-device %d -fs -zoom -vo x11 -channels %c", is that right? |
| [23:46:31] | Juski: | mplayer rips dvds now does it? |
| [23:46:40] | Juski: | news to me |
| [23:46:46] | Zide: | hm, -fs -zoom -vo x11 should be pretty pointless for ripping |
| [23:47:04] | Zide: | mencoder might, but not mplayer |
| [23:47:05] | Fnc: | any of yous guys use an xbox as a FE? |
| [23:47:06] | Cyberai: | Zide, I thoguht so |
| [23:48:38] | Cyberai: | Juski, I am referring to DVD Settings->RIP Settings, the slot for "Title Playing Command" |
| [23:48:53] | Juski: | ah ok |
| [23:49:22] | Cyberai: | so now it reads "mplayer dvd://%t -dvd-device %d -channels %c" |
| [23:49:48] | Cyberai: | Someone put that in for me, and now I am wondering if the % stuff isn't a copy/paste error |
| [23:49:50] | Fnc: | HEY |
| [23:49:53] | Fnc: | I LIKE YELLIN |
| [23:50:10] | Cyberai: | what should it read? |
| [23:50:32] | Fnc: | i htink % are normal in mplayer commands |
| [23:50:50] | Zide: | %t is probably replaced with track number |
| [23:50:56] | Zide: | and so on |
| [23:51:01] | Cyberai: | hmm |
| [23:51:17] | Juski: | btw.. looks a bit rough, but the only photo I took this weekend: http://www.juski.co.uk/ourstand.png |
| [23:51:34] | Fnc: | any other way to pull down images for dvd's in media library? or other programs i could use for this? |
| [23:51:35] | laga: | Juski: awesome :) |
| [23:51:43] | laga: | Juski: did anyone print out your posting? |
| [23:51:51] | Zide: | coool |
| [23:51:51] | Cyberai: | Fnc, Zide, when I try that line at the terminal it says "The channels option must be an integer: %c" |
| [23:52:04] | Juski: | laga: lol no |
| [23:52:28] | Zide: | Cyberai: have no idea, I never used the dvdrip stuff |
| [23:52:32] | Fnc: | whats the channel one do? |
| [23:52:40] | laga: | Juski: heh sad |
| [23:52:41] | Cyberai: | dunno |
| [23:52:47] | Zide: | never got any linux stuff to rip a dvd properly |
| [23:52:49] | laga: | Juski: what's coume's pundit doing there? idling? |
| [23:52:56] | Fnc: | juski i see an xbox in that pic |
| [23:53:01] | Juski: | I was kind of hoping to meet scopeuk at some point.. |
| [23:53:05] | Fnc: | Zide i have... |
| [23:53:17] | Fnc: | but i dont compress nothing.. so its all there, and quite huge! |
| [23:53:20] | Juski: | laga: we got it to boot, and that was about it. it didn't like my monitor at all |
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| [23:53:44] | Juski: | Fnc: yes, I was demoing the lameness of mythfrontend on an xbox |
| [23:53:45] | laga: | Juski: sad. |
| [23:54:00] | Fnc: | doh |
| [23:54:04] | Fnc: | ilame? |
| [23:54:17] | Fnc: | er Lame even |
| [23:54:41] | laga: | Juski: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20030618 &n dash; scopeuk? ;) |
| [23:54:45] | Juski: | mythfrontend & stuff in 32MB RAM.. it's pushing things a bit too far |
| [23:54:51] | Fnc: | Juski: play with the xbmc? and myth? |
| [23:54:57] | laga: | Juski: the xbox has 64, right? |
| [23:55:12] | Juski: | xbox has 64mb ram yeah.. 32 of that is videoram |
| [23:55:21] | Juski: | IIRC |
| [23:55:46] | Juski: | Fnc: I forgot to install Samba on the backend, so couldn't get xbmcmythtv to work |
| [23:56:00] | Fnc: | Juski: BUT YOU LIKE IT?? |
| [23:56:08] | Fnc: | oops sorry |
| [23:56:34] | Juski: | Fnc: other people might be able to live with how slow linux is on the xbox, but not me |
| [23:57:02] | Fnc: | wiould moddin it for more ram help? |
| [23:58:00] | Juski: | yep. but that kind of surgery needs serious attitude |
| [23:58:25] | Juski: | I could do it, but can't be bothered when I have much less ugly frontends anyway |
| [23:58:30] | Fnc: | yeah.. ive seen the pics... looks trey difficil |
| [23:58:38] | Fnc: | lol |
| [23:58:52] | Juski: | and they don't get _any_ uglier than the xbox imho |
| [23:59:10] | Fnc: | have a friend who has it running.. maybe ill go over there and check it out... |
| [23:59:19] | Fnc: | 100 bux for a front end isnt bad though |
| [23:59:29] | tjcarter: | laga: I remember that one. |
| [23:59:39] | tjcarter: | laga: dude, guy... |
| [23:59:44] | Fnc: | plus add in the hidef cable... and seems like your set |
| [23:59:54] | laga: | tjcarter: heh |
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