Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Thursday, July 20th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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kormoc:

AngryElf, on the same tuner?

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Dagmar:

AngryElf: Define them as different input sources

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AngryElf:

kormoc, different tuners

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AngryElf:

dagmar, they are

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kormoc:

AngryElf, then what's the problem? they won't overlap on the tuner

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Dagmar:

THen I fail to grasp if it can even be malfunctioning

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AngryElf:

problem is, i ahve, for example, two channel 7s...that are different

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AngryElf:

but chan 7 only shows up once in mythweb's listings

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Dagmar:

AngryElf: You have two different inputs

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Dagmar:

Oh, that's a mythweb thing

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xris:

AngryElf: set to group by channame

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xris:

but I think there's a mythweb bug about that to be fixed

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Dagmar:

Good stuff.

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AngryElf:

xris, how do i set to group by channel name?

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xris:

AngryElf: it's in the config somewhere. prefer_channum to false, I think

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AngryElf:

i guess there's no way to link the two video sources in such a way that myth knows that chan x on source 1 = chan y on source 2?

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GreyFoxx:

It will see them as the same channel if theyhave the same callsign I believe

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xris:

AngryElf: callsign

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xris:

and mythweb needs to be made to see the same

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AngryElf:

so callsign is what myth uses to identify the channel and 'name' is just a display name for the user?

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xris:

pretty sure

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xris:

that's the correct/intended use of what a callsign is, too

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Beirdo:

argh

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xris:

since name could be "Scifi – dish" vs "Scifi – cable" (or whatever)

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Beirdo:

trying to put AccountManagerPlugin in my trac 0.9

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Beirdo:

it won't load

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xris:

odd

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Beirdo:

ImportError: cannot import name Markup

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Beirdo:

thanks

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Beirdo:

heh

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AngryElf:

i guess what i'm trying to get at is: if I set a show to record on sourceA and it's also showing on a different channel number on sourceB will myth know to use the correct chnanel on sourceB given that sourceA is already in use by a higher priority recording?

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Beirdo:

xris: http://beirdo.pastebin.ca/92860

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AngryElf:

xris, and from what you just said, all i have to do is set the callsign the same on the two channels and it should work?

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xris:

AngryElf: not sure about mythweb. I honestly haven't messed with it before

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xris:

Beirdo: weird.

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AngryElf:

GreyFoxx, is that how it's suppose to work? ^^

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xris:

AngryElf: I do know that there are multi-listing issues in mythweb, though

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Beirdo:

TracTicketDelete is working good though :)

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gardengnome:

i thought the callsign was just like a short name for that channel?!

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GreyFoxx:

gardengnome: It's a channels officiallyregistered name

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GreyFoxx:

AngryElf: yes

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AngryElf:

k, well i'll give it a shot — thanx

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Juski:

time I hit the shower & went to bed. night all

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Beirdo:

ahhh, I see

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Beirdo:

they are using something that's not IN trac 0.9

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Beirdo:

0.9.x maybe

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gardengnome:

GreyFoxx: thanks, i'll have to update some of my howtos then ;)

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** Beirdo considers upgrading the trac vserver to dapper **

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Whyvas:

i've got the monitor set as the TV for my mythtv box, but now it doesn't work on the monitor, is there a quick fix for this so they both work?

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Beirdo:

well, here goes nothing, gonna go to 0.9.3

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gardengnome:

night guys.

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Beirdo:

YAY

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Beirdo:

it seems to behave under 0.9.3 from dapper

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Beirdo:

crap. xris JUST left?

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kormoc:

yeah

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kormoc:

he'll be back soonish tho

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Beirdo:

heh, OK

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Whyvas:

i've got the monitor set as the TV for my mythtv box, but now it doesn't work on the monitor, is there a quick fix for this so they both work?

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Whyvas:

?

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Whyvas:

hehe

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RandomDude15:

http://i5.tinypic.com/20hmwx4.jpg

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RandomDude15:

how do I prevert that

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RandomDude15:

im sick of having to keep mythtvbackend running in root

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RandomDude15:

anyone?

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RandomDude15:

any option to change?

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GreyFoxx:

So, is the backend still running or isit crashing ?

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GreyFoxx:

FYI, you shouldn't have to run the backend as root as long asit has read access to the capture devices and read/write to the storage directory

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kormoc:

and the log file dir

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GreyFoxx:

yeah, if you log to a file, you need ot be able to write to it :)

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tjcarter:

GreyFoxx: that's simply unreasonable! I should be able to write log entries to a read-only file dammit!

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tjcarter:

=)

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GreyFoxx:

You can

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GreyFoxx:

as long as you ignore the errors :)

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sigger_:

for some reason, my front end is displaying multiple copies of almost all videos. how do I get rid of this? SQL or is there a remove duplicates action?

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sigger_:

more specifically this is happening in Settings, Video Manager

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Goose-BA:

hello

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Goose-BA:

where do i find the mythtv keymap so i can know what keys to map lirc to?

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xris:

Goose-BA: either in mythweb's keybindings editor, or the one in the frontend

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xris:

or take a look at one of the example "native" lircrc files...

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GreyFoxx:

as well keys.txt from the source

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xris:

should just get rid of the non-native ones

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xris:

GreyFoxx: keys.txt doesn't seem to have all of them.. though it does list some of the ones that change when you change modes

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ender224455:

I have a question that isn't really relevant to mythtv but to my PC's hardware

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GreyFoxx:

xris: Might beworth updating for 0.20

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ender224455:

every time I turn on my PC after it has been unplugged for about 10 minutes it boots fine and lets me get to the bios, but if I turn it off and try to restart it without unplugging it, it turns on, but the screen is just black and I can't do anything

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sigger_:

sorry to reiterate guys, but any easy way to get rid of dupe entries in Video Manager?

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GreyFoxx:

sigger_: hrm, I imagine the easiest would be to empty the videometadata tables;

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sigger_:

ez nuff. thx

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ender224455:

anyone have any idea about mine?

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sigger_:

sorry ender224455. I've had that where capacitors need to discharge because of some funny settings, but that was like one instance, ever.

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ender224455:

the weirdest thing is that every time I power down the computer (without unplugging) the CD drive's "activity" light comes on

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kormoc:

ender224455, is your ide cable keyed?

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ender224455:

kormoc: What does keyed mean, sorry

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kormoc:

it would have a tab on the one side and a filled in pin hole, so you can only plug it in one way

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ender224455:

kormoc: yeah, it is

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kormoc:

older cables (it's been many years sense I've seen one) don't have that, so you can plug it in backwards which can cause weird things like that

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ender224455:

ah ok, nope it's not that

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ender224455:

I'm trying to reset to cmos sp? now

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ender224455:

also, are case fans supposed to start when the computer is plugged in, but not turned on?

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kormoc:

heh, not usually

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kormoc:

you could have a bad power supply that isn't cutting out the entire way

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scales:

ok guys odd thing came up, my myth machine had some sort of problem, and i am not sure why. lirc doesnt start anymore, it had a problem with the video settings, and some mounting issues. i tried a yum update, and after a while, i get this "Error: Missing Dependency: libmp4ff.so.0 is needed by package mythmusic

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scales:

"

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scales:

any ideas?

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sigger_:

when playing video with xine, I notice that I've gotten some chimes (from mythfrontend I think) when I've used remote buttons. I may also gotten what seems to be some spurious chimes, though that may be related.

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Anduin:

sigger_: Using native lirc support?

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sigger_:

I haven't turned anything on or off re lirc within FE

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Anduin:

sigger_: It would be a compile + config in the right location thing, are you using irxevent?

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sigger_:

using knoppmyth. I believe irxevent is running

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sigger_:

sorry, its irexec

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qfx:

Hello hello

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** mcummings blesses the thread at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/205747 and parts without further questions :) **

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harryk:

greets all

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harryk:

i have a question, that I cannot immediately find on the forums, nor through documentation, and could either use to be pointed in the right direction, or giving specific help

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harryk:

I have a pvr-500, and I am currently using /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 with Tuner 1 on each.

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harryk:

this works great

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harryk:

I now want to use composite 1 on /dev/video1 which doesn't seem to be immediately working, and was looking for a bit of guidance

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ender224455:

do I want bootsplash if I have a radeon 8500

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kormoc:

ender224455, doesn't really matter, if's up to you

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ender224455:

what does it do?

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kormoc:

ender224455, displays a pretty splash screen during bootup

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ender224455:

haha

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kormoc:

http://www.bootsplash.org/

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Whyvas:

is there a way to flush my program guide data from the database?

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Whyvas:

ie restart from scratch

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harryk:

bleh.. forget .. wasn't really interested in fixing it...

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harryk:

g'night

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tjcarter:

and this explains the two random crashes I had..

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tjcarter:

DHL killed this 250 GB drive

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tjcarter:

they just didn't totally 100% kill it

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tjcarter:

it's dead all the same

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tjcarter:

okay, is there a database person awake at this hour? =)

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ender224455:

why isn't mythtv giving me a screen to select my input card? It just went to the main menu on first boot

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qfx:

Does anyone know anything about MySQL connections timing out with Mysql 5?

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GreyFoxx:

ender224455: Are you referring to mythfrontend?

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ender224455:

I might be, how do I get to mythbackend?

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GreyFoxx:

ender224455: You configure the cards and such in mythtv-setup

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ender224455:

do I just type "mythtv-setup" at the command line?

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GreyFoxx:

assuming it's in your path, yes

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ender224455:

I was trying to go by the video that Kevin Rose did... and they got to a setup menu

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GreyFoxx:

Who is Kevin Rose ?:)

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CyberKnet:

xris, or Beirdo?

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qfx:

I'm getting an error from MythTV that hopefully someone can help with. I did some looking around and it seems related to Mysql connections timing out

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qfx:

I'm using mysql 5 on Suse 10.1 and Myth from tarball

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CyberKnet:

qfx: Sorry, I don't have an advice for that one.

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** CyberKnet is running some old version of myth & mysql **

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qfx:

CyberKnet: thanks anyhow :) I'm hoping someone does some time. There's a fix for it in .19 fixes, but I'm not sure how to include those to recompile

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GreyFoxx:

qfx: Just use svn to checkout .19-fixes

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GreyFoxx:

and compile from scratch

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CyberKnet:

GreyFoxx: you brew, don't you?

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GreyFoxx:

Nope

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CyberKnet:

drat.

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CyberKnet:

I need to confirm a theory

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CyberKnet:

(or disprove)

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CyberKnet:

xris?

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xris:

afk, sorry.

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CyberKnet:

drat

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CyberKnet:

can you recommend a brewing channel/

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scales:

guys question.

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scales:

lirc suddenly isnt working. when i type /sbin/service lircd start

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scales:

what do i tag on to see what the response is?

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scales:

it says ok, but i dont think it is loading

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scales:

helloooooo

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scales:

lirc suddenly isnt working. when i type /sbin/service lircd start, what do i tag on to see what the response is?

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scales:

lirc suddenly isnt working. when i type /sbin/service lircd start, what do i tag on to see what the response is?

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scales:

anyone?

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scales:

humm

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sigger_:

tag on?

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scales:

like when i tell it to run something i can add like -m for it to show what the response was

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sigger_:

is the process running?

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scales:

i dont know

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scales:

i dont think so

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sigger_:

ps ax | grep lirc

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scales:

humm

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scales:

what am i looking for

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sigger_:

something like /usr/bin/lircd (not the grep lirc line)

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CyberKnet:

aw nuts.. well, we'll see how this ginger beer brews sans yeast like hte recipie says

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CyberKnet:

I think it will end up flat :|

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scales:

i see this

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scales:

3168 ? Ss 0:00 lircd

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scales:

3305 pts/3 R+ 0:00 grep lirc

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sigger_:

ok so its running. its process 3168

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sigger_:

why do you say it isn;t working. no results on myth?

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sigger_:

you try irw?

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scales:

when i type irw, it doesnt do anything

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scales:

usually in the past when i type it, it drops down a line, and spits out responses to buttons

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sigger_:

ok, it doesn't immediately bring you back to shell prompt, right?

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sigger_:

ok, but no response to buttons right?

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scales:

now it doesnt skip down to that usual waiting stage

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scales:

no it brings be back

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scales:

to shell

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scales:

odd, i didnt do anything to my setup

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scales:

it was working fine, i restarted normally

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scales:

and things went wrong

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sigger_:

what kind of IR receiver?

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scales:

windows media center one

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scales:

i use that remote

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scales:

i know it works well

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scales:

it worked fine for weeks

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sigger_:

you need to modprobe anything? e.g. modprobe usbmce2 (or something like that)

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scales:

no, it just was detected and worked

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sigger_:

I had that problem when I needed to modprobe lirc_serial.

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scales:

very strange

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scales:

it is usb

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sigger_:

yup

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scales:

the only thing i have changed

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scales:

is that on sunday i decided to make the patition where i store my myth recordings smaller, and make another ntfs partition so i could play a game in windows.

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sigger_:

type this: lsmod | grep lirc

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scales:

i was not able to resize the jfs partition in fedora, so i ignored it, booted in windows, deleted the jfs partition, made a smaller one, and made the ntfs partition i wanted

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sigger_:

gimme that and: lsmod | grep usb

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scales:

that screwed up my mounting in fedora, so then i just loaded kanotix, reformatted the jfs partition to normal, and fedora worked

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scales:

myth worked

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scales:

then i restart, and i my lirc isnt working, the video settings are lost....

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scales:

kinda wierd

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scales:

bash: lsmod command not found

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sigger_:

ok that's both weird and beyond me

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sigger_:

lsmod is, I think, a pretty elemental command

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scales:

humm

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scales:

i dunno

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scales:

i hate to re-install everyting

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scales:

humm

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scales:

well,

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sigger_:

ask someone who knows more than me. sorry.

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scales:

hehe

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scales:

k

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scales:

thanks

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sigger_:

np

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scales:

bed now

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sigger_:

k, later

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sigger_:

good luck

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qfx:

GreyFoxx: I can just checkout .19-fixes and compile seperately?

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tjcarter:

ahh, wired network

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tjcarter:

This wireless shit was getting on my nerves ;)

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ender224455:

Do I need to sign up with DataDirect or Zap2it?

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Hoxzer_:

:( haven't used it

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Hoxzer_:

here in finland we have to parse webpages to get our program guide :P

[05:35:37]

ender224455:

if I have a cable box downstairs, but am pluggin in the MythTV box into regular cable, can I still get the digital cable channels through myth?

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Anduin:

ender224455: What would you guess?

[05:44:36]

ender224455:

Anduin: I'd guess no, but was thinking that myth might be able to mimic the cable box

[05:46:06]

ender224455:

also if you are using it with a cable box, do you need to use an IR blaster?

[05:46:51]

Anduin:

ender224455: or serial or firewire (if supported)

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ender224455:

what do I type to start actually using myth.. I just ran myth-setup and filled the database succesfully, but when I type mythtv, I can't see any program listings or use my tuner card

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xris:

ender224455: mythfrontend

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xris:

ender224455: is your cable box SD or HD?

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xris:

and are you in the US?

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ender224455:

xris: I figured out the listing problem... but I think myth just froze on me

[06:00:34]

ender224455:

I thought it was supposed to be really stable?

[06:00:36]

xris:

doing what? console message?

[06:00:39]

xris:

it generally is

[06:00:46]

ender224455:

looking in the system status

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xris:

any nuvexport + xvid users here want to test some quality/speed tweaks for me?

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qfour20:

anyone have a link handy about tuning picture quality with a pvr250?

[06:04:31]

qfour20:

and / or have any suggestions? google search has left me with "you can change the bitrate"

[06:05:20]

xris:

qfour20: bitrate and quantisation settings (which affect bitrate)

[06:05:24]

xris:

mythtv has sliders for each

[06:06:32]

qfour20:

hmmmm.... now that I think about it

[06:06:39]

tjcarter:

someone said that NV had stopped supporting xv in the drivers, but a 7800 just showed it.. What's up?

[06:06:50]

qfour20:

i put the capture aspect ratio as 16:9, and it's a 4:3 signal. would this be unwise?

[06:07:05]

xris:

qfour20: it'll screw up playback

[06:07:24]

xris:

tjcarter: nv or nvidia?

[06:08:00]

tjcarter:

xris: the 7800 user codes DarkPlaces, an OpenGL gaming engine ;)

[06:08:11]

tjcarter:

He doesn't use mythtv though

[06:08:35]

tjcarter:

he's using twinview and it claims to be supported

[06:08:39]

xris:

tjcarter: still matters which driver you're talking about (not that I'd know the answer)

[06:08:53]

tjcarter:

xris: nvidia

[06:09:08]

xris:

ok.. just checking, since you said nv...

[06:09:17]

tjcarter:

referring to company =)

[06:09:31]

xris:

anyway, I have xv with my 6800 and 5200

[06:10:01]

tjcarter:

yeah, I have it with my 5200 as well

[06:10:35]

qfour20:

awesome xris... that fixed the "blocking" inside of flesh tones... thanks!

[06:10:47]

tjcarter:

ah, his current box is using at 6800, and he notes that although xv is supported, he can't see blue when moving the window, so it might not be accelerated

[06:10:52]

xris:

qfour20: of course, your files will be bigger...

[06:10:56]

qfour20:

meh

[06:11:02]

qfour20:

terabyte of storage

[06:11:05]

qfour20:

less than half used

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xris:

heh

[06:11:12]

qfour20:

i'll be ok for a week or two :-)

[06:11:13]

tjcarter:

qfour20: send other half here.

[06:11:20]

** xris waits patiently for nuvexport to finish encoding another sample... **

[06:11:26]

xris:

qfour20: time for an hd upgrade. :)

[06:11:40]

xris:

my mythbox has 100G for tv storage. I rarely need more. heh

[06:11:45]

qfour20:

wish i could get a signal... stupid apartment complex, stupid cable company

[06:12:03]

xris:

qfour20: no hd cable option?

[06:12:12]

qfour20:

nope... only SD directv

[06:12:23]

qfour20:

through southwestern bell / att, no less

[06:12:46]

qfour20:

i could get *one* hd station with my antenna

[06:12:49]

qfour20:

but i don't speak spanish

[06:12:52]

qfour20:

:-(

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xris:

oh, so not even cable

[06:13:27]

xris:

how lame

[06:13:27]

qfour20:

yeah... i have another vid quality quesiton about that

[06:13:34]

qfour20:

i *have* to use a sat. box

[06:13:47]

qfour20:

i've tried both svideo and over the coax with the tuner

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xris:

svideo by a mile

[06:14:04]

qfour20:

svideo is better edge definition but the colors bleed badly

[06:14:44]

qfour20:

oversaturated, i guess.... any ivtvctl things i should read manpages on and test?

[06:14:46]

xris:

coax (assuming you meant RF and not composite — both are coaxial cables) tries to cram way more info onto two wires instead of the 5 used by svideo

[06:15:00]

xris:

you can mess with saturation/etc in mythtv, too

[06:15:03]

xris:

press G while watching live tv

[06:15:26]

xris:

or try composite instead of svideo. it's technically not as good, but there's no noticeable difference

[06:15:39]

qfour20:

haven't tried composite

[06:15:48]

xris:

esp. since the digital signal on the other end of the satellite box is likely never bigger than 528x480

[06:16:28]

qfour20:

direct to the tv, the svideo and composite are not distinguishable from each other

[06:17:12]

xris:

yeah. svideo is technically better.

[06:17:15]

qfour20:

but oddly enough, with the old tv (had a tuner) the RF looked way better than the svideo... then again, that was a tube SD tv, so imperfections were easier to hide

[06:17:18]

xris:

both are WAY better than rf, though

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xris:

wow, hd is nice.

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qfour20:

seems much better at first blush... thanks again xris. I'll have to do some in-couch testing to tweak things

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xris:

:)

[06:35:41]

qfour20:

question: what remote do you prefer?

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sha:

hmm, i know, bad type of question..but i'd like to know..how usable or stable is 0.20 for productivity use?

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xris:

sha: pretty much all of the devs use svn trunk for their main install

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xris:

if you're worried, use the .19-fixes branch

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ender224455:

where do I configure my sound for mythTV? I have video but no sound coming out of my sound card

[07:02:13]

Hoxzer_:

has somebody here got xine to play h264?

[07:02:22]

xris:

me

[07:02:30]

xris:

Hoxzer_: encoded with what, though?

[07:02:34]

Hoxzer_:

xris: did you use external ffmpeg

[07:02:38]

Hoxzer_:

xris: yep

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qfour20:

ender224455: can you play sound with your system?

[07:02:43]

xris:

Hoxzer_: to encode, yes.

[07:02:54]

xris:

Hoxzer_: you need the svn version of ffmpeg (not cvs) to encode h264

[07:02:56]

qfour20:

meaning: can you use xmms or some such to play mp3s?

[07:03:03]

Hoxzer_:

ok ..

[07:03:10]

Hoxzer_:

xris: what distro do you use

[07:03:14]

xris:

Hoxzer_: fedora

[07:03:17]

Hoxzer_:

ah damn :(

[07:03:20]

xris:

had to compile my own

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ender224455:

qfour20: I don't think so

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qfour20:

ok, that's gonna be the first step

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Hoxzer_:

I can't find prefix for ffmpeg libary in ubuntu so I dont think I will find it in debian either

[07:04:13]

qfour20:

i'll go out on a limb and assume that you're using alsa for sound?

[07:04:22]

xris:

Hoxzer_: compiling by hand isn't so bad. esp. to get the latest functions.

[07:04:42]

xris:

it's needed for h264 encoding for ipod, though (I just finished several days of messing with it to get ipod encoding working in nuvexport)

[07:04:55]

Hoxzer_:

xris: yep, but dont I need to compile xine to use external ffmpeg first?

[07:05:17]

ender224455:

qfour20: Honestly, no idea, I've never used linux before (am using Knoppmyth)

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qfour20:

ender: ok. not *too* familiar with knoppmyth, but it should be alsa.

[07:05:54]

ender224455:

qfour20: is the pre-installed, or do I need to get it myself

[07:06:16]

xris:

Hoxzer_: oh, I'm talking about compiling ffmpeg to encode the video

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qfour20:

should already be there. try going to a terminal and executing: alsamixer

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xris:

no clue on xine

[07:07:01]

qfour20:

do you get a mixer application to come up for you?

[07:07:26]

ender224455:

qfour20: nope, it says "function snd-ctl_open failed for default: no such device

[07:07:37]

qfour20:

ok... alsa doesn't like your card

[07:07:43]

qfour20:

what kind of sound card is it?

[07:08:03]

qfour20:

i should rephrase that... alsa isn't properly configured for your card

[07:08:23]

ender224455:

qfour20: I'm honestly not sure, its been sitting in this box for 3 years, should I pull it out?

[07:08:34]

qfour20:

no... it's ok. is it a pci card?

[07:08:40]

ender224455:

yes

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xris:

ender224455: lspci

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qfour20:

yup

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ender224455:

er.. do I type that in a terminal?

[07:09:18]

qfour20:

go to a terminal and type in "lspci" (without the quotes) and paste it into #flood

[07:09:47]

qfour20:

...or dump it to pastbin.ca as the topic points out...

[07:11:29]

ender224455:

well, I'm on a laptop right now (not sure how to use IRC in knoppmyth), but the Multimedia audio controller is Ensoniq ES1373 [AudioPCI] (also Creative Labs CT5803)

[07:12:28]

qfour20:

ok, that seems to be a very common chip. should be well supported

[07:12:57]

qfour20:

paste (in #flood) the output of "lsmod"

[07:13:34]

ender224455:

err.. I can't because I'm not connected to IRC on my mythtv box

[07:13:41]

ender224455:

is there a portion I should type out?

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qfour20:

lsmod will tell you what kernel modules are loaded... we're wanting to see if the module for that soundcard is loaded

[07:14:45]

qfour20:

see if anything matches part of the name, mentions ensoniq, or is named snd*

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ender224455:

there is a module at the top called snd_ens1370 (used by 0)

[07:16:20]

ender224455:

and a few other modules are using snd_ens1370

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qfour20:

ok

[07:16:45]

qfour20:

kernel modules are loaded, so you should be good there. run "alsaconf"

[07:16:53]

qfour20:

follow the prompts and let it do its thing

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qfour20:

(we could have tried this first, but i wanted to be sure it wasn't a lower level problem)

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ender224455:

ok one sec

[07:18:47]

Mattwj2005:

so anyone know how to get mythweb to play using mplayer in Windows?

[07:19:32]

qfour20:

i've messed around with the flash player... worked ok, but i couldn't get it to size correctly on the target machine. my php-fu is weak.

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Dagmar:

Mattwj2005: Try asking in #Windows

[07:22:24]

Mattwj2005:

I doubt they would know anything about MythWeb :-P

[07:22:37]

Dagmar:

MythWeb doesn't have any control over it

[07:22:49]

Dagmar:

...which might explain why you can't figure it out yourself so far

[07:23:15]

ender224455:

wtf... I kept trying to enter my root pass and it kept saying I was wrong, now it won't let me keep trying.. how do I reset the counter

[07:23:26]

Dagmar:

Every single inch of that particular issue is under the control of windows and the browser being used

[07:23:30]

ender224455:

(and I'm sure I was entering the right one)

[07:23:40]

Dagmar:

ender224455: Just give it about 15 seconds

[07:24:07]

ender224455:

I got it, thanks

[07:24:21]

ender224455:

apparently su- and sudo or different? (Or I was just being a dumbass)

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qfour20:

yeah: `su -` will make you *be* root, `sudo somecommand` will issue `somecommand` *as* root

[07:25:33]

qfour20:

su – super user... sudo – *do* as super user

[07:25:45]

Dagmar:

ender224455: They are quite different

[07:25:53]

ender224455:

I need to go read a linux primer

[07:26:08]

ender224455:

it took me about 10 minutes to install firefox

[07:26:09]

qfour20:

once you get used to driving it, DOS will seem retarded to you

[07:26:34]

Dagmar:

Well, one huge difference is that su can change your uid to more than just the superuser

[07:26:48]

ender224455:

qfour20: I got the alsaconfig going, it didn't recognize any PCI cards but asked if it should probe old legacy stuff (I said yes)

[07:27:02]

qfour20:

cool... what did it tell you?

[07:27:18]

ender224455:

eh.. it says it wil take a few minutes

[07:27:20]

Dagmar:

ender224455: What kind of sound card do you have?

[07:27:46]

ender224455:

Dagmar: Multimedia audio controller is Ensoniq ES1373 [AudioPCI] (also Creative Labs CT5803)

[07:27:53]

Dagmar:

To be perfectly honest with you, if you're working on a machine powerful enough to be useful for Myth, the odds you don't have a PCI sound card are really damn low

[07:28:01]

Dagmar:

Dude that is definitely a PCI card.

[07:28:10]

Dagmar:

Are you running on a 2.4.x kernel?

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ender224455:

I know... I just don't know why it isn't seeing it

[07:28:18]

ender224455:

no idea, I'm using Knoppmyth

[07:28:25]

Dagmar:

Type `uname -s`

[07:28:28]

Dagmar:

er uname -a

[07:28:41]

Dagmar:

You're dealing with an "already solved" problem

[07:28:53]

Dagmar:

...if that's a 2.6.x kernel, which I'm pretty sure Knopp is

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ender224455:

ok one sec

[07:29:58]

Dagmar:

On a 2.6.x kernel, if the driver for that has even been compiled, udev should see it when the PCI bus is initialized, and just load the driver without your intervention

[07:30:11]

ender224455:

yes, 2.6.15

[07:30:17]

qfour20:

kernel moduels are already loaded for him, dagmar

[07:30:25]

qfour20:

which is what struck me as odd

[07:30:32]

Dagmar:

Dude your sound works already

[07:30:52]

qfour20:

alsamixer complained to him about the device

[07:30:53]

qfour20:

oh wiat

[07:31:13]

qfour20:

did you execute alsamixer as root, or a normal user account?

[07:31:23]

ender224455:

probably normal

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Dagmar:

Run it as root

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Dagmar:

...this time anyway. There's ways to fix it so you don't need to be root.

[07:32:20]

ender224455:

just did, still says "snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device

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Dagmar:

Man how is that even possible... Hmm...

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qfour20:

and did alsaconf tell you anything interesting?

[07:33:00]

ender224455:

No supported PCI card found

[07:33:10]

qfour20:

wow... i'm stumped

[07:33:30]

Dagmar:

Dude, can you put the output of `lsmod` into pastebin.ca?

[07:33:52]

ender224455:

Dagmar: I'm sorry, I'm on a laptop because I don't know how to get to IRC in knopmyth

[07:33:59]

qfour20:

that laptop connected to the almighty tubes of the internets?

[07:34:05]

ender224455:

yes

[07:34:07]

qfour20:

ok

[07:34:10]

Dagmar:

Well, look for modules named "snd-" in the list

[07:34:15]

Dagmar:

er snd-*

[07:34:22]

qfour20:

on the laptop, execute: xchat&

[07:34:32]

qfour20:

i hope knoppmyth has xchat

[07:35:29]

dorel__:

is anybody using the irblaster?

[07:35:40]

qfour20:

yes.... from irblaster.info

[07:35:42]

qfour20:

works well

[07:35:59]

dorel__:

well here's the thing

[07:35:59]

qfour20:

only have one connected right now, no other lirc modules in use

[07:36:06]

ender224455:

uh, that's really weird, the sound Module changed from before

[07:36:29]

Dagmar:

ender224455: There should be a *bunch* of them, not just one

[07:36:45]

dorel__:

i have added this config file to lircd.conf (http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/yes/URC-39765_B00) but it seems like irsend doesnt let me send the codes.

[07:37:03]

ender224455:

ok ok there is snd_cs4231_lib, snd_pcm, snd_timer, snd_page_alloc, and_ak4531_codec

[07:37:14]

Dagmar:

I just spent $30 and got the iguanaworks high powered thing

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qfour20:

dorel__, /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart none (for com2)

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qfour20:

irsend should work after that

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dorel__:

qfour20: im using the pvr 150 irblaster so it isn't a serial thing...

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qfour20:

ohhhhhh.... no earthly idea, then

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dorel__:

qfour20: could you take a look at the file in the link? what im thinking is that the configuration is for a remote, and not for sending codes to cable boxes.

[07:39:29]

qfour20:

hmmmmm... the info at the top of the file makes me think it *is* intended to send data outbound

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ender224455:

why would my sound thing change from snd_ens1370 to snd+cs4231

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ender224455:

err snd_4231

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Dagmar:

ender224455: What are the vendor and device codes for that card?

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ender224455:

Dagmar: How do I check?

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qfour20:

ender224455, cat /proc/pci|less

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qfour20:

it's in there somewhere

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Dagmar:

ender224455: Use `lspci` to see the list of PCI devices, and on the left you will see something like 04:07.01, that's the bus id. Then type `lspci -n` and look for that bus id

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Dagmar:

On the right you'll see two four digit hex numbers

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Dagmar:

Annoyingly it won't show both the name and the numbers

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Dagmar:

not at the same itme anyway

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qfour20:

gnight all... it's late for me. thanks again for the help, xris

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Dagmar:

...or maybe `lspci -n | grep "Class 04"` but I'm not so sure about that one

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ender224455:

got it

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Dagmar:

I don't know enough about the class groups to be sure about it

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ender224455:

1274:1171

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ender224455:

(rev 09)

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Dagmar:

OKay one moment

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dorel__:

im getting these errors, from the remote, no idea why: irsend: command failed: SEND_ONCE YES left; irsend: transmission failed

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Dagmar:

Damn I know how to look it up in the pcimap but I can't explain how to do it easily, lemme look into the kernel stuff

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ender224455:

ok thanks a lot

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Dagmar:

ender224455: SND_ENS1371 should be loading, along with snd_ac97_codec

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Dagmar:

THat card is very supported by the kernel.

[07:47:01]

ender224455:

so what should I do?

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Dagmar:

Have you installed Knoppix to the hard drive?

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ender224455:

err.. just knoppmyth

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Dagmar:

Knoppmyth, whatever

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ender224455:

then yes

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ender224455:

no disk is in

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Dagmar:

Did you run alsaconf as a normal user?

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Dagmar:

"no disk is in" doens't mean you've installed it to the ahrd drive

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ender224455:

oh

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ender224455:

well it boots from the HD

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ender224455:

I think alsaconf was as root

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Dagmar:

That means it's on the hard drive then.

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Dagmar:

RUn `find /lib/modules/| grep snd_ens`

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Dagmar:

Did it find the module?

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ender224455:

I typed it as "find /lib/modules/ grep snd_ens"

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ender224455:

is that correct

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Dagmar:

No.

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ender224455:

oh

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Dagmar:

there is a | char in the middle

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ender224455:

oh thought that was a typo

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ender224455:

one sec

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ender224455:

well I typed it.. and it didn't say anything when I hit enter

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Dagmar:

That's why your sound isn't working.

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Dagmar:

The module isn't in there

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ender224455:

I'm as root right now btw

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Dagmar:

lsmod should have shown snd_ens1371 loaded

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Dagmar:

...which it apparently wasn't going to since that module wasn't built

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ender224455:

what should I do?

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Dagmar:

Get the #knoppmyth guys to help you build a new kernel so you'll have that alsa module and then your sound will work

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ender224455:

ok cool

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ender224455:

um, is that hard?

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Dagmar:

I've no idea how they have it wedged in there, and they will

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ender224455:

building a kernal sounds hard

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Dagmar:

...adn they need to know that they've got a situation where their thing doesn't install all teh @#$@ sound modules it should

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Dagmar:

Actually, rebuilding a slightly newer kernel is easy

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ender224455:

ok phew

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Dagmar:

It's the stuff that goes around it I don't know what they've done

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Dagmar:

Why they didn't just have *all* the ALSA modules included I have no idea

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ender224455:

I could have sword snd_ens1371 was loaded earlier though

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Dagmar:

It *should* work when that one is loaded

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Dagmar:

...but if it's not there, you've just got to have been mistaken about it

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ender224455:

[12:16am] ender224455: there is a module at the top called snd_ens1370 (used by 0)

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ender224455:

[12:16am] ender224455: and a few other modules are using snd_ens1370

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Dagmar:

...or their installation-to-hard-disk routine is hopelessly broken

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ender224455:

so it needs to be 1371?

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Dagmar:

Yes

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Dagmar:

Because you have a 1373.

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Dagmar:

The 1371 module has code for 1371 and 1373

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ender224455:

ah ok

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Dagmar:

THe 1370 module has none of that

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ender224455:

and I can't just download it and stick it in a folder?

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Dagmar:

No.

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Dagmar:

It has to be built for your kernel.

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ender224455:

well nobody is home in knoppmyth, so I guess I'll try tomorrow

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ender224455:

thanks for your help

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Dagmar:

You could try grabbing the alsa-driver package and rebuilding it, but it comes with the kernel so it's better to stick with kernel-distributed code

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Dagmar:

The option in there is " <M> (Creative) Ensoniq AudioPCI 1371/1373"

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Dagmar:

I'm looking right at it over here

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ender224455:

i'll also see if there is anything in the knoppmyth wiki

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Dagmar:

Actually, I'd ask the #Knoppmyth guys why that module isn't apparently on the CD

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ender224455:

ok there's somebody there

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ender224455:

i will tell them

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Juski:

morning

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der_oschni:

good morning juski

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der_oschni:

i want to say thanks for your EDID-1.bin.movie-rgb_mod which i got from laga

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BoShek:

i have 2 encoders in my box and they are both working as I can watch live tv on either however encoder 2 will not schedule recordings. Anyone have an idea on this? In all my web searching I have found nothing

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der_oschni:

my S100 is now working fine.

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Juski:

der_oschni: heh. no problem ;-)

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Chicago:

BoSheck: There is a setting in mythtv-setup to specify how many encoders to use. My environment has 2 encoders also... the mythtv-setup always defaults to only 1 encoder available...

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BoShek:

thanks i'll take a look

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BoShek:

that must have been a change in the last year

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roofie:

any1 know of a inexpensive capper card that will cap @ 720p ?

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roofie:

and work with myth

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tjcarter:

heh

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tjcarter:

roofie: someone posted a link to a card a couple nights that might do it..

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tjcarter:

I'd give you the link, but my scrollback doesn't go that far back, so you'll have to check the log

[13:30:08]

tjcarter:

mchou was bitching about how much analog tuners suck shortly after the link was posted, which should help in finding it

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tjcarter:

(or maybe not.. hehe)

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

he does that a lot

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** tjcarter nods **

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gardengnome:

yeah, mchou seems to enjoy whining a lot.

[13:31:27]

** tjcarter thinks that perhaps he is getting the hang of Myth **

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tjcarter:

Reinstalling it three times in two days will do that for a person I guess

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** Beirdo tweaks yet another Goon Show :) yeehaw **

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tjcarter:

First knoppmyth, which I hosed because I tried to install vim from Debian and it basically borked the entire thing

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tjcarter:

Then ubuntu, which required knowledge of dpkg and debconf internals because the ubuntu myth packages are old and broken so that I could install 0.19 packages which I never got to actually use because I discovered that the drive I was using was dying rapidly...

[13:34:21]

Beirdo:

umm

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Beirdo:

OK

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

I just apt-get build-dep mythtv

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tjcarter:

Then knoppmyth temporarily last night until I get new hardware =)

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Beirdo:

then compile my own

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tjcarter:

Beirdo: I didn't want to have the system down for that long

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Beirdo:

down?

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Beirdo:

how is that down?

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tjcarter:

Obviously if you're waiting for myth to compile, it's not recording stuff

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Beirdo:

ahh

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scopeuk:

tjcarter compile on another box?

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tjcarter:

There's also the fact that two days ago I knew nothing about MythTV

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gardengnome:

use ccache and distcc

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gardengnome:

tjcarter: you'll get it working eventually, don't worry. and then it'll great :)

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scopeuk:

tjcarter heh you'll learn

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tjcarter:

available hardware are my Mac and roommate's laptop

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tjcarter:

distcc with a lappy not so great

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gardengnome:

*shrug* i don't wanna have children so it works for me

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tjcarter:

and I've been too busy to properly partition this Mac and install other OSes

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tjcarter:

LOL

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Juski:

most cap cards are _capable_ of working at 720p input, but many just don't bother supporting it

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Juski:

see the datasheets for the video decoders used by capture cards for details :-P

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roofie:

what do you mean by _capable_

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qfour21:

anybody here build / support mythtv boxes for commercial customers? my friend has an a/v installation & consulting company, and I am considering riding his coattails and building / supporting / training on mythtv

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tfm:

qfour21: there are a lot of company's doing that

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tfm:

qfour21: just google on it

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scopeuk:

therre is knoppmyth reference platform aka the dragon

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scopeuk:

might be worth lookign into

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scopeuk:

but thats not to dismiss other solutions

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qfour21:

was not aware of the 'dragon' platform

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scopeuk:

www.mythic.tv

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stuarta:

afternoon all

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scopeuk:

http://mysettopbox.tv/KRP.html also worth a look

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scopeuk:

cecile is interested in that sort of thing

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stuarta:

hah! "commercial flagging is now near perfect", he's obviously not in the uk

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scopeuk:

stuarta agread

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qfour21:

i've been very impressed with myth's commercial flagging (us SD content). It only misses one set of commercials in five, on average

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Dagmar:

Hmm... I'm thinking about looking for a way to export the flagging data to a cutlist for Cinelerra personally.

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scopeuk:

there is a way to export the cut list

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stuarta:

it's sitting in the DB.

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Dagmar:

I like to eyeball those markers before I let the thing even transcode withotu them the first time

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Dagmar:

stuarta: I'm aware of that

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** stuarta wonders if there a perl module to play with that stuff **

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Dagmar:

Well, there's perl::DBI but it's practically a hassle for what little is necessary to just get one small pile of data out of mysql

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qfour21:

somebody please shoot me... phb's are making promises on what i can and cannot deliver with respect to stuff they don't have the foggiest understanding of. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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stuarta:

i'm talking about the perl bindings xris has been writing...

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Juski:

qfour21: just kill them

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qfour21:

wish i could

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qfour21:

phb is in a different state

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qfour21:

no way am i gonna fly to va, just to shoot an oxygen thief

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Juski:

roofie: by 'capable' I meant that the chips on a lot of tuners will digitise 720p. you just never get that because a) manufacturers don't bring out enough inputs to do YPrPb and b) they don't support it in their drivers

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Juski:

cx23416 as used on the pvr cards will digitise 720p according to their datasheet

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Juski:

stuarta: commflagging $ky One is just about flawless for me. only channel it is though

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Juski:

afaict ;-)

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stuarta:

$ky three works okay, as does itv4 & ch4 on weekend afternoons...

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Juski:

i.e. when they have logos onscreen...

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Juski:

cyg time :)

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stuarta:

although the $ky 3 is sometime 1/3 the way into the screen...

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Dagmar:

It never occurred to me that that might explain why SciFi switched to *always* having that logo on the screen

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Juski:

if I was an advertiser I wouldn't like that

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Juski:

people don't spend serious money to have a logo splatterred all over the ad

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Dagmar:

Yeah, but when it goes away you know you're looking at a commercial

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Juski:

sounds corny to say this but on some channels, some ads are better than the shows

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darren_:

Juski (or other uk users), did you have a problem getting xmltv channels to link up the channels correctly in the DB or did it just work after scanning for channels?

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Beirdo:

Juski, that's a sad statement on the quality of TV

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Juski:

darren_: all my own work. automagic just gets messed up

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scopeuk:

darren_ im onanalog so i had to manually configure the lot

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scopeuk:

and fixthe grab script

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scopeuk:

nasty

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Juski:

only cos you broke it

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darren_:

is it safe to just throw out channel entries from the DB or will they reappear all the time?

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Juski:

they'll re-appear if they're present in ~/.mythtv/foo.xmltv

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scopeuk:

Juski the grab script provided by knoppmyth has to be patched before it will function wit hthe version of perl that5s isntalled

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Juski:

that bit needs a serious rethink, esp. for dvb users

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darren_:

hmm. Well I have 2 entries for channel 4. One by scanning with a correct channum, name and serviceid. One from xmltv (I assume) where the channum is the same as the name :/

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Juski:

one will have an xmltv id but no tuning info.. the other will be the other way around

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Juski:

stinky

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darren_:

| 4 | Channel 4 | 8384 |

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darren_:

| Channel 4 | Channel 4 | 0 |

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Juski:

maybe the tv_grab_uk_rt script could be adapted for mythtv users

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darren_:

I guess I can try throwing away the broke one and hope xmltv doesn't bring it back, as I do have a channel 4 !

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Juski:

nothing to lose ;-)

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darren_:

has anyone put their xmltv config and mysql channel dump on a wiki somewhere ?

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darren_:

ideally one for freeview, one for sky, etc ..

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Juski:

come off it

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darren_:

just curious :)

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Juski:

a full $ky lineup would be hellish.. all the quiz & shopping channels.. :-/

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scopeuk:

Juski the sanner amngst us whould jsut remove the shit

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darren_:

personally I only have freeview, but I thought I should mention sky for completeness

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scopeuk:

should speed up channl lsitsing 900 fold on sky

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Juski:

and it'd also be little use since the UK is split into so many regions

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scopeuk:

darren_ i belvie there are ones on the knoppmyth wiki

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Juski:

look how many defs of BBC1 there are ;-)

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scopeuk:

for sky adn ntl that is

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darren_:

only for major channels though, BBC, ITV, most aren't regionalised

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scopeuk:

yeh that is stupid

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Juski:

no it's not stupid

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Juski:

I don't want fsking west country news about people's kittens getting stuck in trees

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scopeuk:

i know regionalisation makes it nessasery but the number of regions is silly

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Juski:

regional programming is fantastic

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Juski:

on the bbc anyway

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scopeuk:

two ways to get on news here a kid wit ha terminal desies or get murdered

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scopeuk:

all there ever is on my local news

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Juski:

does anyone here, in the UK, watch 'Community Channel'?

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stuarta:

regional tv in Aus is funny, you get sheep dog trials and ads for fertilizer down the local coop

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scopeuk:

its nasty

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darren_:

that sounds like it should be 'streetised' or 'neightbour watchised' !

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Juski:

I've seen it, and it's always got some minority group stuff – like some kids making a fscking rap video or some sad shit

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scopeuk:

its like you tube or google video on braudcast

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scopeuk:

stuarta nothing wrogn wit hsheep dogtrials

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stuarta:

don't they have public access in US

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Juski:

if you ever wondered what ever happenned to Andy Crane.. he presents news on Channel M

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stuarta:

scopeuk: not at all.

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Juski:

the community channel is giving too much exposure to minority groups IMHO. nothing the majority of the population relate to or care about

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stuarta:

there is something wrong however with poker channels

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Juski:

supposed to be all inclusive, but doesn't seem to be that way

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scopeuk:

alinclusive as logn as your not white-british male and between the ages of 16 adn 48

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Juski:

I heard they're gonna be relaxing the rules on gaming advertising.. can't wait to see 888.com ads on telly :-/

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scopeuk:

they already sponsor shows

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scopeuk:

and they have bilboards in my town too

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stuarta:

Juski: I already get 888 ads on tele

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Juski:

only ever seen billboards in the most deprived areas funnily enough

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darren_:

am I right in thinking a recorded program only appears in the media list after if has been run through jobs, like commercial flagging ?

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stuarta:

saw in the paper yesterday that in poor areas most ATM's charge...

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Juski:

darren_: probably

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Juski:

stuarta: gotta love capitalism eh?

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darren_:

anyway I can force these jobs to run, from prompt or menu ?

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Juski:

darren_: not if you've specified time limits for running jobs

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stuarta:

darren_: what do you mean 'media list'. they turn up in recorded programs as soon as they start recording.

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darren_:

2nd option down on frontend. Only my live TV recordings show up instantly, but scheduled stuff is waiting.

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Juski:

oh yeah that.. if you can't see what you're recording you need to change the group view

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scopeuk:

Juski were an ex mining area so it figures

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deny:

i have an ati hdtv card

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deny:

and i tried to go by the instructions on mythtv

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deny:

but i seems to have problems with myth working as an interface

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Diabolic:

Any reason for avoiding "MCE LP" when purchasing the PVR150?

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EinsteinTaylor:

morning all

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scopeuk:

not unless your running mce

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scopeuk:

oh avoiding

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scopeuk:

nto rearly

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EinsteinTaylor:

not really?

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** stuarta hands scopeuk the spell checker, word aligning thing-a-ma-jig **

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EinsteinTaylor:

any word on the summer of code progress for myth?

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stuarta:

it's happening. none of it will be in 0.20 tho

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EinsteinTaylor:

some of the bounties are looking pretty promising...

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EinsteinTaylor:

why nothing in .20?

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stuarta:

none of it's finished

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EinsteinTaylor:

that makes it sound like .20 is closer than i thought?

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stuarta:

:-)

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GreyFoxx:

A month or so

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EinsteinTaylor:

any major changes?

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GreyFoxx:

maybe :)

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GreyFoxx:

I don't know whatyou call major :)

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GreyFoxx:

lots of dvb changes

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GreyFoxx:

lots of dvd playbackchanges

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GreyFoxx:

and hundreds of other stuff

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EinsteinTaylor:

major as in interace overhauls, etc..

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Juski:

scopeuk: ex-mining? I think manchester's primary industry is prostitution these days

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GreyFoxx:

EinsteinTaylor: All I can say is go read the -commits archives really :)

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EinsteinTaylor:

might have to do that...i was just curious...i was getting pissed at recording profiles last night

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stuarta:

1678 changeset's and counting.

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Juski:

crikey

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Juski:

so rushing though, you dev guys ;-)

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Juski:

s/so/no

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stuarta:

nope, just *lots* needed to be done...

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EinsteinTaylor:

how many devs are in here?

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GreyFoxx:

woop, compile finished

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** GreyFoxx wonders if we should have a porting.h and keep all platform dependant defines and includes in there to keep from repeating the same stuff throughout the code **

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stuarta:

what like #include <stdint.h> ?

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** Beirdo bitch-slaps trac **

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GreyFoxx:

yeah

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Beirdo:

now "closes #22" doesn't close the ticket?!

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Beirdo:

what did I break now?

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GreyFoxx:

little bits are all over the place

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stuarta:

Beirdo: Closes #22

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GreyFoxx:

we could just have 1 include that contains it all

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GreyFoxx:

makes it easier to update later rather than editing several files

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stuarta:

GreyFoxx: but then you are replacing 1 include with another include. bit pointless

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GreyFoxx:

I'm mostly referring to all of the #ifdefs around depending on ifit's osx, freebsd and the like. some defining library routines that don'texist on that platform

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GreyFoxx:

duplicated all over

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Beirdo:

ahhh, forgot to upgrade the hook script, that'd do it

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stuarta:

!trout Beirdo

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** MythLogBot slaps Beirdo with a trout on behalf of stuarta... **

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

yeah well

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** stuarta grumbles about people fiddling with tickets.... **

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Beirdo:

yeah, I just changed my trac setup so people MUST be registered to even touch tickets other than to read them

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Beirdo:

too many stupid spammers in the world

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stuarta:

now where am I supposed to delete that deep copied QString.... hmmm...

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

:g /QString/s///g

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Beirdo:

(don't do it, you'll regret it)

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** stuarta thinks about bbq'ing Beirdo's trout **

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

I'm in a jackass mood today

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Juski:

very nearly beer 'o' clock!

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Beirdo:

and we have no damn water pressure, how am I supposed to do laundry?!

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Beirdo:

damned water company

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** stuarta hands Beirdo a bucket **

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Beirdo:

we just have some towels and sheets to do now. done like 6 loads in the last couple days

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Juski:

you used up all the water!

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stuarta:

collect some rainwater

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Juski:

heh. bet it's a bit cleaner than Mancunian rain too

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stuarta:

no sign of rain down here...

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Juski:

we had some last night. now we've got 60% r.h.

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stuarta:

space invaders anyone? http://www.pistolwimp.com/media/48474/

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Beirdo:

OK, water pressure is back, started the load

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Beirdo:

heh

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Juski:

beer anyone?

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stuarta:

yep

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Beirdo:

I'd love some

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** Juski beers everyone **

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sha:

:))

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EinsteinTaylor:

little early here just yet

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Juski:

wuss

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** stuarta cranks up the music **

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Beirdo:

thank ye

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EinsteinTaylor:

lol

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Beirdo:

if you're awake, it's not too early for beer

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stuarta:

EinsteinTaylor: never too early

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EinsteinTaylor:

not sure beer and breakfast burrito would go so well

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Beirdo:

and I'm talking good European beer, not American swill

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sha:

Beirdo: which one?

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EinsteinTaylor:

Beirdo: they kind you drink with a fork and knife?

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gardengnome:

ßo/

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stuarta:

EinsteinTaylor: are you joking? that's a perfect combo....

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gardengnome:

err, o/

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sha:

6 p.m. is a good time for beer

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EinsteinTaylor:

green chile and hops...not sounding so good

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scopeuk:

stuarta links busted

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Juski:

*.* is a good time for beer

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stuarta:

anytime after midday, unless on holidays, then anytime....

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sha:

hehe

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gardengnome:

sha: hell yeah. any reason why you're not in #mythtv-de?

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Beirdo:

I'm kinda in a guinness mood, but ain't got no beer

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sha:

gardengnome: err..no

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Juski:

heh. if you're on the dole, just lie in bed & drink beer. make us people who work really feel envious

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stuarta:

hmmmm. worked earlier...

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EinsteinTaylor:

ive put in about 10 whole minutes of productive time at the office today

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EinsteinTaylor:

30 if you count the burrito run

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Juski:

burrito runs? surely they come after eating em

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stuarta:

it was space invaders, done in stop motion video by people wearing coloured jumpers.... v funny

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EinsteinTaylor:

Juski: lol...touche

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stuarta:

Juski: you forgot, watch sat tv at the same time....

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Juski:

oh yeah... and shag the commonlaw wifey

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Beirdo:

mmmm, or code

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Juski:

uh-oh.. this conversation is descending..

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Beirdo:

:)

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stuarta:

chav central....

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Beirdo:

ah hell

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Juski:

(and it's my fault as usual) ;-)

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Beirdo:

I got like 6 loads of laundry to fold and put away?!@

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Beirdo:

sucky sucky sucky!

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LoneShadow:

anyone using mythphone ?

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stuarta:

Beirdo: you are the house wench.....

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Beirdo:

stuarta, yup... the kept house husband (for now)

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stuarta:

how long till you automate the house??

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Juski:

6 loads of laundry to fold & put away _and_ cook a meal _and_ do the vacuuming..

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Beirdo:

actually today, I'm tasked to do some mopping

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Beirdo:

tile floors

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Juski:

I'd rather stay at home doing housework I think

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Beirdo:

your job pays better, though

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EinsteinTaylor:

can i email someone my laundry to do?

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Juski:

doesn't pay quite as well though

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LoneShadow:

EinsteinTaylor: email it to signup@lotsapr0n.com

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

and there's still a huge pile more clothes for her to sort through, and it will all need washing (what she keeps)

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stuarta:

i'm off home. back later...

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EinsteinTaylor:

lol...

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Juski:

ta-ta for now

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EinsteinTaylor:

i'm just too freakin lazy to even start it

[16:21:22]

Juski:

you can't be _that_ lazy... being a linux user

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Juski:

;-)

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EinsteinTaylor:

emerge life

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EinsteinTaylor:

--with-all-dependencies

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kormoc:

insert into cron @daily chores.sh

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Juski:

kids too? eek

[16:23:32]

EinsteinTaylor:

no kids...ewwwww

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Beirdo:

kids rule

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EinsteinTaylor:

kids would take $$$ away from my hardware addiction

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EinsteinTaylor:

on a serious note...does it get messy to run two of the same tuner cards? i just found a smoking deal on another PVR-150

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Beirdo:

just buy a house, that should do ya

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Juski:

EinsteinTaylor: course not

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Beirdo:

you should be fine with two of those

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GreyFoxx:

EinsteinTaylor: IT's no problem

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EinsteinTaylor:

and can i control both with the same remote i assume?

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GreyFoxx:

You only control one

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GreyFoxx:

myth talks to the card

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kormoc:

EinsteinTaylor, you control the frontend via a remote

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EinsteinTaylor:

ahh...and picks which tuner it wants to use?

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GreyFoxx:

you trhough the remote talk to myth

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GreyFoxx:

right

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EinsteinTaylor:

gracias...just wanted to check

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EinsteinTaylor:

they got this 150 for like $70

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EinsteinTaylor:

so i think i'm gonna go get it

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LoneShadow:

70 ?

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LoneShadow:

thats a lil expensive isnt it ?

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GreyFoxx:

not for a $150

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EinsteinTaylor:

everywhere else in town theyre weighin in at like $120

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GreyFoxx:

I've seen aslow at $54 on sale

[16:29:19]

GreyFoxx:

but they are usually $69+

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LoneShadow:

a month ago, it was on sale for $45 after rebate in Circuit city

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kormoc:

newegg has one for $62 normally

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kormoc:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815100135

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EinsteinTaylor:

are there any hidden gotchas i should be aware of?

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EinsteinTaylor:

with the setup?

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Juski:

nah

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kormoc:

if you set it up wrong, it will eat your heart

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Juski:

or.. if you set it up wrong, we will laugh very loudly

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EinsteinTaylor:

lol...and i shouldnt need the audio loop cable? it'll feed back across the PCI right?

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Juski:

WHAT audio loop cable?

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EinsteinTaylor:

ive never tried to run dual tuners so just coverin all the bases

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Juski:

audio gets digitised onboard. no need to connect it to a soundcard

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GreyFoxx:

EinsteinTaylor: The PVR cards doesn't require those

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kormoc:

EinsteinTaylor, does your current 150 have a audio loop cable?

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EinsteinTaylor:

negative

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GreyFoxx:

It outputs a mpeg stream with both audio and video

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kormoc:

So why would you ask if this one had one? :P

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GreyFoxx:

not like the older/cheaper framebuffer tuners

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Juski:

so erm.. why would a new card need an audio loop cable?

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EinsteinTaylor:

the one i have is the MCE 150...the one i'm looking at is the non MCE...didnt know if there was adiff

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EinsteinTaylor:

my *OLD* card had the loop

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xris:

EinsteinTaylor: retail comes with a remote, mce doesn't

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LoneShadow:

you guys have subtitles working fine ?

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Juski:

I've seen an mpeg encoding card (not hauppauge btw..) which still needed a soundcard loopthru cable

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EinsteinTaylor:

i dont mean to sound like a n00b cuz i'm actually not...just seeing if there was anything i should be aware of

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Juski:

LoneShadow: VBI subtitles don't work on pvr150/pvr500 AFAIK

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LoneShadow:

hmm

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GreyFoxx:

yeah

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GreyFoxx:

But they work fine on my 250's

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Juski:

you need CC, use software encoders, HDTV, pvr250 or pvr350 (cough!)

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Juski:

or DVB...

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LoneShadow:

are you using s-video or cable as i/p on your 250 ?

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GreyFoxx:

coax here

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sapbeast:

ok i find this strange, temporal noise filtering is no longer oworking for me

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sapbeast:

i look at some last nights recordings and they are worse than when i had ivtv 0.4.4 (using 0.6.3 now)

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LoneShadow:

GreyFoxx: so can you enable or disable CC while playing from recorded media ?

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GreyFoxx:

LoneShadow: Yup

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GreyFoxx:

As long as there was CC info in the broadcast I recorded, I can display it

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LoneShadow:

EinsteinTaylor: someone is selling 150MCE for $50 if you are near SF

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EinsteinTaylor:

san francisco or santa fe?

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LoneShadow:

so I guess 150MCE wont support CC as well

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LoneShadow:

San Francisco

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EinsteinTaylor:

not even close to there...bout an hour from santa fe

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GreyFoxx:

LoneShadow: The IVTV drivers don

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GreyFoxx:

't supportit for them

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GreyFoxx:

the hardware is perfectly capable of it

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LoneShadow:

oh

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GreyFoxx:

I'm sure it's in the works. I haven't followed that list in a while

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EinsteinTaylor:

GreyFoxx: you one of the devs?

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GreyFoxx:

I suppose so

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EinsteinTaylor:

lol...interesting answer

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EinsteinTaylor:

what parts u work on?

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GreyFoxx:

Whatever strikes my fancy. Right now I'm reporting the frontend to OpenBSD

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Dagmar:

Can't you get a new PVR-150 for abotu $50?

[16:43:20]

EinsteinTaylor:

has Open accepted myth into the ports tree?

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GreyFoxx:

EinsteinTaylor: Nope

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GreyFoxx:

I'm updating myth to just compile and run on it. Idid it last summer and I'm just updating it

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Dagmar:

Looking at NewEgg I see that yes you can get one for $54.

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GreyFoxx:

and now I'm heading to the beach for some water time :)

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Beirdo:

the "GreyFoxx is bored this summer" project?

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EinsteinTaylor:

any advantages to running on open other than saying youre running it on open?

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GreyFoxx:

Beirdo: Yeah

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Beirdo:

oooh, beach. if I had a car here, I'd go too

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Beirdo:

same ocean, way further south

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GreyFoxx:

EinsteinTaylor: The advantageis that I can run it on my desktop,I could care less about bragging :)

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EinsteinTaylor:

if we had water in this god forsaken state i'd go

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** GreyFoxx heads out **

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Beirdo:

have a good one, I hope the water's not too cold

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Beirdo:

I think it's time for a little puzzle pirates

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Beirdo:

and watch Chuck Norris kicking some criminal ass

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scopeuk:

Beirdo you play too

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Beirdo:

puzzle pirates? Yeah, have been for over a year

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scopeuk:

subsribe?

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Beirdo:

hell no. :)

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Beirdo:

Viridian ocean

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scopeuk:

arh imon colbolt

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scopeuk:

dont actualyl subscribe though

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gardengnome:

err.

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scopeuk:

ever brought dabloons ;-)

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Beirdo:

often

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Beirdo:

heh

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scopeuk:

www.puzzlepirates.com gardengnome

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scopeuk:

ucker ;-)

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scopeuk:

sucker*

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Beirdo:

nah

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Beirdo:

I have 3 ships, and me and my wife have at least one of every shoppe

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scopeuk:

nice

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scopeuk:

i just play for free

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scopeuk:

may in a moment of extrame bordem consider subscrition

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Beirdo:

we've each paid like $40US over the last year

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Juski:

hometime!

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scopeuk:

nothing much

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Beirdo:

yeah, pretty minimal

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sixy:

does anyone know if there is a way to sort music in mythmusic other than by artist name?

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Rouki:

having an issue in getting the channel logo icons.

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Rouki:

when running the perl file it throws an error: Cant find all channels link

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Rouki:

any ideas on how to fix this??

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gardengnome:

sixy: you can change the sorting order in the mythmusic settings

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lnx^:

hiya

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lnx^:

wonder why my tv_grab_fi isn't working?

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kormoc:

lnx^, actually, I wasn't wondering that, but thanks for asking.

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lnx^:

that's good actually, that must mean you know the answer to my wonder

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kormoc:

not really, it just means that I found the way you tried to word your question was amusing

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lnx^:

maybe both

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lnx^:

anyway, might I have an old version of the script or something?

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lnx^:

getting this error:

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lnx^:

http://www.katso.fi/tvopas: no channels could be found at /usr/bin/tv_grab_fi line 563.

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kormoc:

Given, no-one even knew that your script was broken, so asking people if they've been wondering why it was broke, tends to indicate that you know the answer, and will enlighten the wondering people

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lnx^:

and the version is 1.38, xmltv 0.5.42

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xris:

lnx^: sounds like the web page changed and the script needs to be updated

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lnx^:

xris: yeah – where might I find the latest version?

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lnx^:

and is it packaged with mythtv or some other pack?

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xris:

the xmltv home page?

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lnx^:

that's a great bet I think

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phenex:

hey guys, i want to build a mythTV box, and got hold of one of those pvr-150 cards... now i noticed it's calles winTV pvr-150. should i be worried of that "win" thing? will it work under linux? the user guide only mantions windows...

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roger55:

phenex, that's the normal brandname, and hauppauge never mentioned any linux compatibilty for anything afaik.

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stuarta:

but it is the most recommended card around.

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phenex:

thanks :)

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Beirdo:

no crashing when I restart you, bitch!

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Beirdo:

!list

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Beirdo:

!trout xris stinky

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** MythLogBot slaps xris with a stinky trout on behalf of Beirdo... **

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Beirdo:

muhaha

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xris:

woot

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stuarta:

new feature?

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Beirdo:

slight modification, yup :)

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** MythLogBot slaps kormoc with a grammar trout on behalf of xris... **

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xris:

woot

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phenex:

umm... that would be ubuntu, but i didn't see any good guide for ubuntu and mythTV, and i don't really trust myself enought to do it without a step-by-step guide...

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gardengnome:

huh? there's been a version of winmyth that supposedly works with 0.19 since february. anyone tried it?

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Beirdo:

heh

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** kormoc laughs **

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xris:

phenex: there's a good ubuntu guide somewhere.. the main mythtv docs come to mind, since most of the devs use ubuntu.

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phenex:

the main docs talk about installing mythTV frontend from cvs, as far as i remember... not a word about addons...

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kormoc:

phenex, http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-13.html

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phenex:

nice... thanks for the help guys :) i think i'll stick to ubuntu :)

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xris:

phenex: smart choice, sticking with what you're familiar.

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Beirdo:

oh, this movie SUCKS

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Beirdo:

"Ed"

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Beirdo:

with a baseball-playing chimp..

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xris:

heh

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kormoc:

ha!

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Beirdo:

and Matt LeBlanc from Friends

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kormoc:

he's the chimp?

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gardengnome:

!trout scopeuk spell-checking

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Beirdo:

heh, not quite, but still

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gardengnome:

o/

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stuarta:

i like the new trout....

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Beirdo:

!trout stuarta

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Beirdo:

it still does the old style too

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kormoc:

!trout noobs RTFM

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** MythLogBot slaps noobs with a RTFM trout on behalf of kormoc... **

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Beirdo:

hahahah

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stuarta:

clearly the washing wasn't very interesting....

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Beirdo:

well, I can do more than one thing at a time... prefer to watch TV :)

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Juski:

I think I successfully managed to get a forum user to prove he can search today :)

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Juski:

fucking idiot

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Beirdo:

oh wow

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stuarta:

!trout "forum user" RTFM

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Juski:

no Beirdo.. on some forums that's kind of a big deal

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stuarta:

hmmm...

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Beirdo:

ummm

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Beirdo:

it doesn't parse quotes at all

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stuarta:

!trout forum user RTFM

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** MythLogBot slaps forum with a user RTFM trout on behalf of stuarta... **

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stuarta:

hmmm...

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** kormoc laughs **

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Beirdo:

you can put in a ticket :)

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

maybe I should make it parse quotes

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xris:

Beirdo: wel, no spaces in irc nicks, anyway... so no real need

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kormoc:

!trout forum-user RTFM

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stuarta:

ahah!

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Beirdo:

there ya go

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kormoc:

drat, it strips colors out :P

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Beirdo:

I didn't see any colors

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kormoc:

Beirdo, I made the – in forum-user black, so it would look like a space on a black screen

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Beirdo:

oh

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Beirdo:

heh

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lnx^:

now I'm getting this error: http://www.katso.fi/tvopas: no channels could be found at /usr/bin/tv_grab_fi line 563.

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lnx^:

gee, wrong copy paste

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lnx^:

this it is: Can't locate object method "get_nice_tree" via package "http://www.telkku.com/telkku?tila=knvt" (perhaps you forgot to load "http://www.telkku.com/telkku?tila=knvt"?) at /usr/bin/tv_grab_fi line 495.

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lnx^:

and that was from the script tv_grab_fi

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xris:

lnx^: you probably need to upgrade all of xmltv

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lnx^:

I did perl Makefile.PL + make + make install

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lnx^:

tried both the nightly snapshot & the official .44

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alieas:

I'm thinking about upgrading my myth tv system to become h.264 720p playback capable. Do you guys think an amd 4600+ would do the trick?

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kormoc:

alieas, with a good videocard, for sure

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Juski:

if it doesn't, you can always upgrade again ;-)

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alieas:

kormoc: thats the other thing. these am2 mobos are all pci-e, but all my cards are AGP. I'm hesitant to make the switch. I was thinking about buying a FX5200 PCI (not express), but do you think I would need a much more powerful card than that? I thought the GPU H.264 acceleration was never really going to get linux support...

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Juski:

and you'd probably be right for the forseeable future

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Juski:

nvidia have other fish to fry for the time being

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sigger:

well, I finally got my xxmc working on epia with CLE266 chipset yesterday. The switch it accesses the backend was limiting it to 10mpbs and that wasn't enough. Sheesh

[19:17:26]

sigger:

It resulted in CPU usage dropping from basically pinned at 100% to ranging from 30–50%.

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Juski:

what speed cpu?

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sigger:

ME6000 (600MHz)

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Juski:

not bad

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Juski:

I get about 15–25% on my 1ghz epia

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sigger:

and that % was accessing an .iso of a DVD via samba.

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sigger:

Juski: you use any postprocessing?

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Juski:

nah

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Rouki:

is there any way to hide the mouse on a system wide level?

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Juski:

turn the power off?

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Rouki_:

any way to hide the mouse on a system wide level?

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sigger:

This box is in our family room and I kinda want the spiffiest possible picture on the 60" plasma with sharpening and all. I'll likely need a better CPU.

[19:21:03]

Juski:

sigger: spending so much on a plasma & then skimping on the playback is a bit ummm.. daft IMHO

[19:21:10]

Dagmar:

Rouki_: You can define whatever mouse pointer theme you want.

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Dagmar:

Rouki_: It's up to you to learn how to make mouse themes.

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Rouki_:

how would i do that from remote console?

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sigger:

Juski: totally agree!

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Juski:

though I'd take the point that the plasma left little money over ;-)

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Dagmar:

I'm not having any part of it. I dont' think what you've got in mind makes any sense.

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Juski:

hide the mouse? didn't Richard gere once try that game?

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sigger:

hehe, nah. already own the 600MHz. Buying the right plasma, PC, etc is a matter of "budgeting

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sigger:

(and I think that was sportscaster Jerry Pentacoli that played hide the hamster)

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Juski:

hey Coume. just boxing up your IR receiver

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Juski:

I'm hiding it in an old mouse ;-)

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Coume:

hi all :)

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Coume:

hiya justin :) hehe nice :)

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Coume:

Juski, if you go on Friday, have you booked an hotel for friday night too?

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Juski:

Coume: no.. very impractical in monetary terms :-/

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sigger:

so I did notice that xine was keeping around 50% CPU usage but giving slight stuttering when playing the one .avi file I tried. (DivX, AC3, 516x276). Stutter goes away if I turn xxmc off. Strikes me as odd.

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Juski:

plus there'd be drinkies on the friday night aswell

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Coume:

Juski, don't you believe that saturday very early morning should be fine? since they booked tables?

[19:26:48]

Juski:

Coume: the word 'booked' is kinda loose I think.

[19:27:08]

Juski:

I'll see if I can catch matt in #lugradio

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Coume:

Juski, yeah but if we got the screens and stuff... you spent time to preapre everything... they can't do that now...

[19:27:41]

Coume:

oh, yeah, and did you give my name too as exhibitors?

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Juski:

yes.. all taken care of

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Dagmar:

Juski: It took long enough but I finally found a suitable enclosure for my transciever elements. http://www.kbtoys.com/genProduct.html/PID/470 . . . /D/?_ts=B001

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Dagmar:

Now I just gotta saw the front of the face off it

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Dagmar:

It is teh leetness.

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Coume:

you'r a champ juski ;) after 2h30 in traffic jams on the M25... it is now time to eat and to prepare my third interview of the week! and then tomorrow, it's pundit polishing time :)

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Juski:

heh. I've got all the cleaning to do tomorrow. you bringing a keyboard Ludo?

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Coume:

Juski, yeah keyboard, mouse, pundit, 100 CD sleeves,as many plugs and stuff as possible... and ... surprise

[19:31:22]

Juski:

surprise eh? intruiging

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Coume:

eheh yeah a nice miss in a box :)

[19:32:02]

Coume:

happy birthday to you mister juski :)

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Dagmar:

Mail order pygmy bride.

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Coume:

lol

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Juski:

heh. you shouldn't have ...

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Juski:

anyway how are the interviews going?

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Juski:

Coume: newsflash.. we'll be fine turning up early on Saturday

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Coume:

yesterday, kind of tricky... my french accent is likely to be a real CON since it would be expected a 500.000 GBP target over the first year :)

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Coume:

today, was great... it is for a ram manufacturer... inside sales account manager... should have the next step

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Coume:

tomorrow, it's the TV job the one I had the first interview 2 months ago...

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Juski:

ooo nice

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Juski:

quality, value, and Coume!

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Coume:

and tuesday, will be the financial sales one – 2nd interview

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Coume:

lol indeed Juski :)

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Coume:

when I will be in charge of their online commerce.. I will change the QVC slogan :P

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Coume:

ok time to go eat to work on my tomorrow interview. I catch you tomorrow juski :)

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Juski:

okees. have fun

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Juski:

so they have an online shop? great that means there'll no longer be any need for the TV channel (yay!)

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Coume:

LUGRadio J-2 – Damned the German users had been luckier they had the frontpage of mythtv.org but the UK cannot :(

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Coume:

Juski, it is already making several XX M GBP :)

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Coume:

bye all

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Juski:

yeh I kinda begged for it, but nothing was forthcoming.

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Juski:

laters Ludo

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Coume:

laters Juski

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lnx^:

what's this error when starting mythtv-backend? Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed

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Juski:

prolly nothing to worry about. google it

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Beirdo:

fuckin cable box

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Beirdo:

why do I have to TELL it to get guide info this week?

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Beirdo:

just do it, you POS

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Dagmar:

lnx^: You're not starting the backend if you're seeing that error

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Beirdo:

hahahahah

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Beirdo:

the neighbor's car alarm just got set off by a scooter roaring by

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Juski:

heh. we had a bit of a confrontation on our street with Mercedes owning kid's dad who live a few doors down. alarm going off every 10 mins when it gets dark. very annoying.

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Juski:

at our neighbourhood meeting on tuesday we learned that the police are now authorised to confiscate bikes & scooters which are uninsured/unlicenced. people have to pay a bounty to get their stuff back within a week – and if they don't, it gets crushed. muhahahahaha

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Beirdo:

now that's cool

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Dagmar:

ARound here if you're on a bicycle, the cops will generally not even consider bothering you, unless you're doing something stupid like riding in the middle of the night wearing dark clothes and have no lamps or reflectors

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Beirdo:

bikes as in pedal bikes?

[20:52:28]

Beirdo:

jeez

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Beirdo:

licensing pedal bikes is SUCH a cash grab

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Juski:

nah.. bikes as in motorbikes ;-)

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Beirdo:

oh good

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Dagmar:

Ahhh

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Beirdo:

:)

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Dagmar:

yes, there's far too many of those fuckers running without a muffler in every city

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Beirdo:

they should just auction it off

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Juski:

Beirdo: they hold the crushing events in public & advertise them

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Beirdo:

oooh, nice ;)

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Beirdo:

it's like olden days with public hangings

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Juski:

it's a lot quieter round here since they started doing that

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Beirdo:

I'd imagine so

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Juski:

no more 2-stroke whine from dawn til dusk :-)

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Beirdo:

I wish the cops would come stop these dumbasses in the late afternoon

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Beirdo:

stupid-ass punks cruising back and forth on scooters and 4-wheelers

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Beirdo:

and one assmaster with a Harley

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Juski:

what gets me is – where is the attraction in just going up & down a street or round & round a field non stop?

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Dagmar:

The guy with the Harley should be ashamed

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Dagmar:

It's quite possible to make them quiet

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Beirdo:

Dagmar, I so agree, but also, you have a nice chopper, go play on the freeway!

[20:56:23]

Beirdo:

why make it quiet, it's a hog!

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

but DAMN is it loud

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Dagmar:

Too many people neglect their engines

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Dagmar:

A properly tuned one isn't much louder than the average old car

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Beirdo:

oh, this isn't neglect.. This is intentionally loud, I'm sure of it

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Dagmar:

Probably so

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Beirdo:

the dumbass doesn't care about his own hearing apparently

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Juski:

loudness is equal in proportion to ummm... other things in the minds of some people

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Beirdo:

I need to find a hockey stick to put through his spokes

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Dagmar:

What you need to do is show the neighborhood kids how much fun it is to throw a rubber ball down the oversized exhaust

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Beirdo:

potato!

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** Juski lends beirdo some steel rope **

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Beirdo:

:)

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Beirdo:

the trick is the timing to get it lodged in the spokes as he drives by

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Beirdo:

muhahah

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Dagmar:

Get a spool of high-tension fishing line and a slingshot

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Beirdo:

hmmm

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Beirdo:

tempting

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Dagmar:

Tie a weight to the end of the line and try to put it through the spokes

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Beirdo:

or a good harpoon

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Dagmar:

It'll wind all around the axle

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Beirdo:

if I hit the engine, that works too

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Beirdo:

just as long as I can reload to shoot one at the whale on the bike too

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Dagmar:

Yeah but it'll take him a lot longer to figure out what the smell is, and he'll have fun getting the bike moving again with melted plastic on the acle

[21:00:04]

Dagmar:

s/acle/axle/

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Beirdo:

hehe.

[21:00:14]

Beirdo:

yeah

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Beirdo:

oh

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Dagmar:

Slingshots have a pretty short reload time

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Beirdo:

and there's a helmet law here

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Kyler:

I've got a couple of VIA EPIA CN boxes to test. I'm thinking about using them for frontends but the Xorg via driver doesn't recognize the display adapter. Anyone else try these already?

[21:00:31]

Beirdo:

the fucktard's never wearing one

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Dagmar:

OOo! Super bouncy ball and slingshot for sure then

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Beirdo:

he probably thinks he doesn't need it as he's in a gated community or some such shit

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sigger:

er, there's no rewind in xine, is there? only moving in x second increments?

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Juski:

oops. minus WAF points cos Bad Girls didn't record :-/

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Juski:

is mythtv programmed to develop taste over time? ;-)

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stuarta:

oopa

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stuarta:

not with the crap i record...

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Juski:

I think I know what happenned. I saw it recording the repeat & clicked 'never record'

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Juski:

oopsie

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Juski:

so that's me not getting any for a while. heh

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Juski:

fscking hate that show anyway

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stuarta:

back to ABC's how depressing

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Juski:

I should never have owned up ;-)

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stuarta:

cleaning up old recording schedules is so tedious....

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Juski:

and prone to making mistakes...

[21:21:16]

Juski:

be good to have an option in the watch recordings menu or something

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stuarta:

nah, only getting rid of old overrides. they have a nice dotted box around them in mythweb

[21:21:52]

Juski:

it's good (in a way) that the reason the show wasn't recorded is my fault actually

[21:22:12]

Juski:

and at least she'll see the repeat on monday :)

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Beirdo:

Juski, good goin

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janneg:

stuarta: use mythfilldb

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stuarta:

hmmm, i don't use it all....

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janneg:

it cleans old successful record rules and overrides

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janneg:

even with eitonly

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janneg:

so it's more mythcleandatabase

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stuarta:

here's me thinking the housekeeper would *housekeep*

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janneg:

I'm just describing the current state not what I would expect

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stuarta:

:)

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janneg:

cleaning is just 75 LOC (programs/mythfilldatabase/filldata.cpp clearOldDBEntries)

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stuarta:

that does the trick...

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Juski:

mythfilldb clears out old stuff? wonder how I missed that 'un

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stuarta:

you must use it all the time so you wouldn't notice which one actually did it...

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Juski:

I've got old recording schedules from wayyy back.. didn't clean them out. Or am I just missing the point completely?

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stuarta:

single, & override recording schedules

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RandomDude15:

how do I get my computer to automaticly run mythfrontend now?

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Juski:

ah

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stuarta:

don't worry. I just learnt the exact same thing....

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Juski:

RandomDude15: .xinitrc, or .xsession, or....

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Juski:

i.e. add an entry to run mythfrontend :)

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stuarta:

my poor hard drives...

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stuarta:

been sitting on 50–53c all day :(

[22:15:41]

RandomDude15:

err

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RandomDude15:

I meant

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RandomDude15:

mythbackend

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RandomDude15:

sry

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RandomDude15:

to automaticly run

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RandomDude15:

when I turn on my computer

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RandomDude15:

I have to run it in root now.... when I start up my computer

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stuarta:

that's easy... init script.

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RandomDude15:

yeah but its not working.

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stuarta:

you have to remember there is no path information or anything set in an init script

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stuarta:

so you have to be explicit.

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RandomDude15:

oh I totally understandit now.

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RandomDude15:

thanks :)

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RandomDude15:

root@chris:/etc/init.d# /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start

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RandomDude15:

Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Could not open network socket

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RandomDude15:

hmmm

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RandomDude15:

when I stop it says (mythbackend No /usr/bin/mythbackend found running)

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Juski:

stuarta: those temps are close to the bone

[22:20:40]

Juski:

haven't checked mine for a bit..

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stuarta:

i know. not happy about it.

[22:21:37]

stuarta:

I graph mine so I can keep an eye on it...

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RandomDude15:

any idea?

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Juski:

RandomDude15: means mythbackend isn't running

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RandomDude15:

hmm I can get in mythfrontend fine

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Led-Hed:

delivery temporarily suspended: connect to /tmp/dspam.sock[/tmp/dspam.sock]: No such file or directory

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Led-Hed:

oops. sorry wrong channel

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Beirdo:

motherfucking fire ants

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Sedorox:

lol

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Sedorox:

the school district I'm working for is having problems with fire ants

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Sedorox:

well the middle school anyway

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Beirdo:

stop stinging me, you little bastards!

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Beirdo:

I'm like 20 feet from the nearest hill

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Beirdo:

which reminds me, I need to get out the ant killer for that ant hill

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Beirdo:

I had fun destroying a hill with the lawn mower :)

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stuarta:

few gallons of petrol should do the trick...

[22:32:46]

Beirdo:

I have good ant killer stuff

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Beirdo:

but it's in the garage and I'm too lazy right now

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Beirdo:

besides, I got bot code in my brain :)

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Juski:

ooo I do hope my hotel room has air conditioning this weekend

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sapbeast:

worldwide heat wave :p

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stuarta:

I thought about coming, but my planning department was on strike...

[22:46:43]

Juski:

always next time

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stuarta:

maybe next year...

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Juski:

have to see how it goes this year first. I've no idea what to expect

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Juski:

now where did I put nuvexport? hmmm

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Beirdo:

OK, bot restart time, here's hoping for no stupid coredumps

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Sedorox:

!coredump

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Sedorox:

O:-)

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EinsteinTaylor:

afternoon

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Beirdo:

here goes fun

[23:09:29]

stuarta:

dammit. just crashed my frontend, but didn't have coredumps enabled so I can't track it down...

[23:09:46]

Beirdo:

it's notifying many many people

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EinsteinTaylor:

I am often getting RingBuf invalid file/file not found erros which prevents live tv from starting

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EinsteinTaylor:

anyone seen this?

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EinsteinTaylor:

google talks about NFS/Samba...but this is locally mounted discs

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Juski:

ooo I loves nuvexport. it's lovely & stuff

[23:13:39]

Beirdo:

aye, it is

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Beirdo:

well, I'll see how that change to the rssfeed code and flood protection are liked...

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Beirdo:

next would be to put in tracking of the bytes sent to implement the rest of flood protection

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EinsteinTaylor:

no ideas on the ringbuf stuff?

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Juski:

well that answered my next question: YES nuvexport does the recordedmarkup table too. what a gem!

[23:17:24]

Juski:

EinsteinTaylor: ringbuf? thought that died in 0.18

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EinsteinTaylor:

doesnt appear to have

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Juski:

ah.. HD ?

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EinsteinTaylor:

i'm for sure on 0.19 and sometimes livetv wont start and spews ringbuf errors

[23:18:27]

EinsteinTaylor:

about file not found etc..

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Beirdo:

Juski, yeah, we tried to make nuvexport as useful as possible :)

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Juski:

EinsteinTaylor: could be tuning/tuner problems / file permissions / etc

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Beirdo:

ARGH

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EinsteinTaylor:

all my ownership/permissions are right...i'm running version: 0.19_p9163-r1

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EinsteinTaylor:

i turend up ringbuffer size..hoping that works

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Beirdo:

ABC RN buggered up on me (streaming from AU->PR)

[23:20:38]

Beirdo:

so I didn't get that Goon Show

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Beirdo:

Oh bugger.

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Juski:

Beirdo: I thought they had usenet groups for that kind of thing anyway

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Juski:

not that I'd condone that kind of thing :-)

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Beirdo:

heh, yeah, but BBC7 and ABC RN broadcasts weekly

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Beirdo:

so I just.. umm.. record the broadcasts

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Juski:

easier in lots of ways I guess

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Beirdo:

except when something borks, yes

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Beirdo:

/dev/mapper/optData-mp3

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Beirdo:

20G 17G 4.0G 81% /opt/mp3

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Beirdo:

muhahah

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Beirdo:

I should clean that up or grow it a bit

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Juski:

ingle jingle, jangle, jong...

[23:23:27]

Beirdo:

OMG

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Beirdo:

1.4G of Blue Jays games

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Beirdo:

heh

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EinsteinTaylor:

at least come playoff season you wont have to waste space on the B.J's :)

[23:24:11]

Beirdo:

heh

[23:24:15]

Beirdo:

possibly

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Beirdo:

I got 1TB of disk, I really don't care if I waste a touch

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EinsteinTaylor:

it was more of a shot at the team :)

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EinsteinTaylor:

it's ok...i wont be wasting video on the rangers either

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Beirdo:

hey, this thing should be recording the Marlins game too

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Beirdo:

Hmm, I guess that grabber got borked

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Beirdo:

as they are playing right now too

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stuarta:

night all

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Beirdo:

night, stuarta

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Juski:

night stuarta

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Beirdo:

I see... they added the Spanish broadcast info and broke me grabber

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Beirdo:

BAD MLB, making it harder for me to listen in on the games

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GreyFoxx:

Blah

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** GreyFoxx needs a "useful posts" filter for the -users list **

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Beirdo:

> /dev/null

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GreyFoxx:

most of it does there :)

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GreyFoxx:

s/does/goes

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Juski:

woo how long has mythweather been broken in mythweb 0.19?

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Juski:

seems not to work on either of my backends

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GreyFoxx:

hrm, got it all to compile.... now the question... will it run or crash

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Beirdo:

OK, Marlins scheduling fixed :)

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Beirdo:

GOD

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Beirdo:

stupid Liberty

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Beirdo:

no sync for 7 minutes

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Beirdo:

useless asshole provider

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xbmodder_newlapp:

hey

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xbmodder_newlapp:

your bot is kind of annoying

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Beirdo:

glad you think so, it's there for the common good

[23:49:10]

xbmodder_newlapp:

yeah

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xbmodder_newlapp:

you might wanna put it in the onjoin notice

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** roger55 slaps xbmodder_newlapp just for fun **

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Juski:

if just one more user RTFM, that's one slightly less pissed off me

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Beirdo:

why bother

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Dagmar:

Because the authorities frown on bloodshed

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Beirdo:

it will tell you when you join, good enough

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roger55:

hi xbmodder_newlapp btw :)

[23:50:11]

Dagmar:

...and after awhile the lye you have to buy to dissolve the bodies starts to get expensive

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Beirdo:

oh, and hi :)

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xbmodder_newlapp:

I am thinking of having one mythtv backend (1TB HDD/2GB RAM/Intel graphics) and three frontends..

[23:50:36]

xbmodder_newlapp:

I am wondering what kinda specs the frontend machines should have

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Juski:

2GB RAM might be a tad excessive for a backend methinks

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Dagmar:

hey it's his money

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Juski:

wb gardengnome's script

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Dagmar:

let him spend if if he can't find the wiki

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gardengnome:

script?

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xbmodder_newlapp:

Juski, its my machine

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gardengnome:

that was a manual cycle

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GreyFoxx:

xbmodder_newlapp: What kind of video will they be playing? REgular definition TV/dvd quality stuff? Or HDTV ?

[23:51:28]

xbmodder_newlapp:

that does 10212 other things

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Juski:

gardengnome: heh ;-)

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xbmodder_newlapp:

GreyFoxx, the source will be a crappy motorola cable box.

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gardengnome:

!trout juski slappy

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** MythLogBot slaps juski with a slappy trout on behalf of gardengnome... **

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xbmodder_newlapp:

so regular definition

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GreyFoxx:

xbmodder_newlapp: Then any 1ghz and down machine ismore than fine

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Juski:

you can get away with 128MB ram .. but I wouldn't advise that if you can help it

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GreyFoxx:

most of my frontends are 733mhz netbooting celeron based machines

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xbmodder_newlapp:

GreyFoxx, what graphics card

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GreyFoxx:

NVidia is the cardof choice usually

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xbmodder_newlapp:

GreyFoxx, will 100 mbit/sec ethernet work?

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GreyFoxx:

good TV out and good driver support

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GreyFoxx:

100meg is fine

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Beirdo:

!trout fire-ants poisonous

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** MythLogBot slaps fire-ants with a poisonous trout on behalf of Beirdo... **

[23:53:20]

Beirdo:

damn you fire ants, STOP BITING ME!

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gardengnome:

!trout beirdo fire-antish

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** MythLogBot slaps beirdo with a fire-antish trout on behalf of gardengnome... **

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Beirdo:

heh

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gardengnome:

this is fun :)

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Juski:

how's it going gardengnome anyway?

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Beirdo:

can't I sit out on the patio without little bastards biting me?!

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gardengnome:

Juski: uh, tired. watching janne playing with my dbox. and for you?

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Juski:

still sweating my nuts off getting stuff ready

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gardengnome:

heh

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xbmodder_newlapp:

The backend is going to be hooked upto a comcast digital cable box, which has a serial interface for changing channels, can mythtv interface with this?

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Juski:

xbmodder_newlapp: the FAQ says it can

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Juski:

funny things, faqs.. full of useful info

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

if you get a firewire one, you're even better off

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Juski:

gardengnome: what's janne playing with yer dbox for? making it crash-free? ;-)

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Beirdo:

pour a beer in it, that should crash it

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janneg:

Juski: no, make it work with trunk

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