| Sunday, July 9th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | laga: | pab: how is that gonna help you? |
| [00:00:15] | laga: | pab: what i meant is that you need to install Date::Manip |
| [00:01:04] | pab: | laga: I've done a lot of tweeking after the install. In debian, where do I need to go look for Date::Manip |
| [00:01:34] | pab: | laga: shouldn't it be part ot the perl package? |
| [00:01:44] | laga: | pab: apt-cache search date | grep perl |
| [00:01:50] | infringer: | anduin; do you understand what is causing the error? |
| [00:02:46] | infringer: | anduin mythtv .19 hupappage pvr 150 mandriva |
| [00:02:50] | laga: | infringer: it's very likely that your channel database is f'ed up. use mythfilldatabase --manual (analog) or mythtv-setup to correct it. |
| [00:02:59] | laga: | infringer: are you outside US? |
| [00:03:36] | gutano: | http://pastebin.ca/82633 anyone using fairly recent svn run into issues recording (live tv works fine) |
| [00:03:49] | infringer: | no sir or madam am not |
| [00:03:54] | gutano: | BE console says something about not being able to get current channel |
| [00:05:18] | infringer: | laga I am in us and trying to use composite and tune to channel via ir blaster |
| [00:05:26] | Anduin: | gutano: Are you sure you are running the SVN version you said earlier? |
| [00:05:35] | laga: | infringer: if you're insid... ah, IR blaster. can't really help you there. |
| [00:05:48] | infringer: | no no |
| [00:05:50] | laga: | infringer: all i know is that you should set a default channel when you setup a video source. |
| [00:06:11] | infringer: | really hrmmm |
| [00:06:20] | infringer: | ok |
| [00:07:09] | pab: | laga: You are a jewel! Can't tell you long I've been fightin' this one. Thank you! |
| [00:07:15] | laga: | errm. no, never mind. you're using composite, so you don't have to do it :) |
| [00:07:23] | pab: | laga: libdate-manip-perl |
| [00:07:25] | laga: | pab: no problem. i'm glad i could help you :) |
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| [00:11:49] | ThreeE: | Hello all. I'm getting an error that I've seen via googling and on gossamer-threads, but have not seen a solution: |
| [00:11:52] | ThreeE: | 2006-07–08 19:04:22.099 TV: Attempting to change from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [00:11:52] | ThreeE: | 2006-07–08 19:04:22.107 Using protocol version 26 |
| [00:11:52] | ThreeE: | 2006-07–08 19:04:22.132 GetEntryAt(-1) failed. |
| [00:11:52] | ThreeE: | 2006-07–08 19:04:22.133 EntryToProgram(0@Wed Dec 31 18:00:00 1969) failed to get pginfo |
| [00:11:54] | ThreeE: | 2006-07–08 19:04:22.133 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started |
| [00:11:56] | ThreeE: | 2006-07–08 19:04:22.133 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started |
| [00:11:58] | ThreeE: | 2006-07–08 19:04:22.135 TV: Deleting TV Chain in destructor |
| [00:12:00] | ThreeE: | 2006-07–08 19:04:22.148 Disable DPMS |
| [00:12:02] | ThreeE: | 2006-07–08 19:04:22.148 Enable DPMS |
| [00:12:04] | ThreeE: | any thoughts? |
| [00:13:12] | laga: | yes |
| [00:13:18] | laga: | use www.pastebin.ca next time |
| [00:13:31] | ThreeE: | I will look into that — thanks |
| [00:15:26] | ThreeE: | when I try to watch LiveTV, mythtv gives me that error |
| [00:16:57] | Anduin: | ThreeE: You are missing program info |
| [00:17:41] | ThreeE: | anduin, you mean like a mythfilldatabase? |
| [00:18:19] | Anduin: | ThreeE: Yes. |
| [00:18:33] | ThreeE: | I will try that. Thanks. |
| [00:21:51] | ThreeE: | no joy. Here's the error (same): http://pastebin.ca/82851 |
| [00:23:48] | ThreeE: | It started to do this after I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.16 and ivtv drivers to 0.6.3 on a gentoo install |
| [00:24:09] | ThreeE: | I can watch LiveTV via mplayer fine |
| [00:25:57] | laga: | it was fine before? are you sure it's caused by your kernel upgrade? |
| [00:26:20] | ThreeE: | Yes, I was watching TV right before the upgrade |
| [00:26:47] | laga: | since you're on gentoo, what version of mythtv are you using? |
| [00:26:58] | Anduin: | ThreeE: From which ivtv version? |
| [00:27:22] | ThreeE: | some of the boards say this happens when the start channel isn't reset — looking into that now — using mythtv 0.19_p91263-r1 |
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| [00:27:32] | ThreeE: | ivtv 0.6.3 |
| [00:27:53] | Anduin: | ThreeE: So you didn't switch ivtv versions? |
| [00:28:14] | ThreeE: | yes, I did — I was using ivtv 0.4.4 with kernel 2.6.15 |
| [00:28:28] | laga: | there's an even newer version of mythtv in portage, but it might be masked. anyways, i was just wondering because your problems reminded of of those livetv errors which were fixed (IMHO) in your version. |
| [00:28:56] | ThreeE: | I'm using the highest stable version in the amd64 tree |
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| [00:29:26] | ThreeE: | got it working now |
| [00:29:38] | ThreeE: | the video source got reset to nothing somehow |
| [00:30:03] | ThreeE: | I went in to mythtv-setup and it was blank |
| [00:30:07] | ThreeE: | odd |
| [00:30:28] | laga: | humm |
| [00:30:47] | laga: | i remember something about ivtv changing the name of the tuner input, maybe that's related. |
| [00:30:55] | ThreeE: | I think the switch from ivtv 0.4.4 to ivtv 0.6.3 did it |
| [00:30:59] | ThreeE: | laga — exactly |
| [00:31:25] | ThreeE: | thanks for the support all |
| [00:31:39] | laga: | np. nice you figured it out on your own :) |
| [00:31:46] | ThreeE: | now if I could get my lirc stuff to work again... :) |
| [00:33:20] | ThreeE: | quite a bit of improvement in picture quality with the change from ivtv 0.4.4 to 0.6.3 |
| [00:34:41] | Dagmar: | I'm about to bite the bullet and move to 0.7.0 and 2.6.17.4 |
| [00:35:00] | Dagmar: | I figure we'll have 2.6.18 by morning. |
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| [00:43:53] | ThreeE: | Dagmar — what distro are you on? |
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| [00:47:53] | Dagmar: | Mine |
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| [00:55:46] | Juski: | da da da enter xmltvids, ad infinitum... |
| [00:56:39] | laga: | 01:35 < Juski> night laga.. night all |
| [00:56:44] | laga: | *cough* |
| [00:57:28] | laga: | Juski: can you receive messages from someone who's not registered? |
| [00:58:10] | Juski: | cant sleep :-/ |
| [00:58:18] | laga: | insomnia? booze! |
| [00:58:22] | Juski: | laga: I think I can |
| [00:58:40] | laga: | Juski: got my messages? |
| [00:58:44] | Juski: | had a bottle of shiraz tonight – I thought that'd have done the trick |
| [00:58:52] | Juski: | laga: nope |
| [00:59:08] | ** laga is having his third beer for the night. already wasted. :/ ** | |
| [00:59:21] | laga: | Juski: /msg nickserv set unfiltered on |
| [00:59:25] | Juski: | strong pills (pils ?) eh? |
| [00:59:25] | ThreeE: | laga, where are you that it is late? |
| [00:59:40] | laga: | no gardengnome anymore, i'll show ya the reason. |
| [00:59:47] | laga: | ThreeE: germany, GMT+1. |
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| [01:00:03] | Juski: | laga: done |
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| [01:00:11] | ThreeE: | ah, bummer on the Cup loss — but you all still have the beer. :) |
| [01:01:47] | Juski: | did laga lose a cup? you don't need cups for beer. sheesh |
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| [01:02:14] | laga: | i drink straight from the bottle and we kicked portugal's ass tonight :) |
| [01:02:38] | DrMitch: | where are the contrast/brightness settings stored for each channel? what table in the db ? |
| [01:02:42] | ThreeE: | soccer, er, football — I just don't get it... (guess where I'm from) |
| [01:02:53] | Juski: | DrMitch: funnily enough the _channel_ table |
| [01:03:06] | Juski: | ThreeE: the UK? :-P |
| [01:03:15] | ThreeE: | hehe |
| [01:03:24] | Juski: | sorry the US of K ? |
| [01:03:35] | ThreeE: | yes, Texas no less |
| [01:03:48] | Juski: | nice. you have my sympathy ;-) |
| [01:03:58] | ThreeE: | no place better |
| [01:04:03] | ThreeE: | ;) |
| [01:04:53] | xris: | laga: congratz. :) |
| [01:04:55] | Juski: | time to see in xmltv have more up to date xmltvids for channels that exist these days, rather than using 10 year old ones |
| [01:05:56] | Juski: | damn. cvs.sourceforge.net seems to be down |
| [01:05:58] | ** xris hopes that italy wins. ** | |
| [01:06:30] | ** Juski hopes that aliens invade Earth tomorrow & outlaw football ** | |
| [01:06:35] | xris: | lol |
| [01:06:44] | ** scopeuk hopes he can fidn somethign better to do ** | |
| [01:06:55] | scopeuk: | think i have some paitn i can watch in the garage |
| [01:07:10] | Juski: | damn sourceforge... evil evil sourceforge |
| [01:07:43] | DrMitch: | thanks Juski |
| [01:07:44] | laga: | xris: i don't really care, but i was kinda forced to watch the game and it was nice. |
| [01:07:53] | xris: | heh |
| [01:08:27] | laga: | xris: italy cannot win, they'd have won the world cup one more time than germany. so we hope for france – i'd have never thought that would happen. |
| [01:08:47] | Dagmar: | If they'll land where I can see 'em they can do whatever htey want abotu football |
| [01:08:49] | laga: | cvs.sourceforge.net sucks. hard. |
| [01:09:17] | xris: | laga: lol |
| [01:09:21] | Juski: | the fucking useless pieces of crap... they've still not updated the xmltvids!!! bahhh |
| [01:09:45] | Juski: | e.g. bbc3 is still choice.bbc.co.uk. bbc choice went off the air years ago |
| [01:10:30] | Juski: | ahhh I get it... they're looking fwd to my patch |
| [01:11:25] | ThreeE: | grr, I put a second PVR-150 in and it won't tune.... |
| [01:11:30] | laga: | seems like it. kinda like the ubuntu guys with debarchiver. |
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| [01:12:13] | Juski: | maybe if I look at channels.dat I'll find out what the ids are supposed to be |
| [01:14:20] | laga: | Juski: <grabber> --list-channels? |
| [01:14:46] | Juski: | I've got the channels.dat open now |
| [01:15:36] | Juski: | I could make a script to automatify this... if I could be bothered |
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| [01:19:24] | DrMitch: | how often do live tv shows, that you didn't choose to record, get deleted? |
| [01:21:02] | GreyFoxx: | by default after 24 hours |
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| [01:21:11] | GreyFoxx: | or ifit's less than 2 minuteslong almostimmediately |
| [01:21:25] | GreyFoxx: | OR if diskspaceis needed for a recording, they will get expired as needed |
| [01:21:28] | DrMitch: | that's pretty snazzy |
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| [01:21:53] | laga: | GreyFoxx: you don't happen to need a new keyboard, do you? |
| [01:22:05] | GreyFoxx: | hehe why ?:) |
| [01:22:24] | GreyFoxx: | my space key is sticking :) |
| [01:23:26] | laga: | too much online porn. i see. |
| [01:23:48] | GreyFoxx: | too much baby milk and joy splashed over my laptop keyboard :) |
| [01:23:56] | laga: | heh :) |
| [01:23:59] | GreyFoxx: | joy = her name for juice |
| [01:24:28] | laga: | works for me. it it's tasty juice. |
| [01:24:42] | ** laga is enjoying some hops juice right now. ** | |
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| [01:31:13] | unstablesob: | i have a wintv mono tuner and mythtv works fine except i only get audio from the left channel, what can i do to fix this? |
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| [01:37:02] | Juski: | unstablesob: use a cable which converts mono to stereo audio between the tuner & soundcard I think |
| [01:38:39] | unstablesob: | thanks juski |
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| [01:53:16] | ThreeE: | so I put a new PVR-150 in and it doesn't work. I dual boot into Window2000, use it there, come back to gentoo, and it works. |
| [01:57:12] | DrMitch: | ha, funny |
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| [02:02:33] | citrus: | anyone has Keyspan Express Remote? |
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| [02:08:51] | Juski: | eep. over 100 channels needed the xmltvids entering by hand |
| [02:08:54] | Juski: | blech |
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| [02:12:10] | schtinky: | anyone here have pcHDTV HD-5500 working in mythtv? |
| [02:14:23] | citrus: | anyone uses Keyspan Express Remote? |
| [02:14:54] | Juski: | anyone going to stop asking metaquestions & ask about problems they're having instead? :-P |
| [02:15:31] | schtinky: | anyone want to stop being a kneejerk jerk? |
| [02:16:35] | Juski: | nah not me |
| [02:16:53] | Juski: | tip – you might stand more chance of your question being answered if you're more specific |
| [02:19:29] | Juski: | http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| [02:20:11] | schtinky: | ok, fair enough. My pcHDTV 5500 works in FC5 on an AMD X2 3800 using the dvb tools program getatsc... I can watch programs by piping into mplayer. However, I have never gotten a picture through mythtv |
| [02:20:41] | schtinky: | the manual scanning for channels from within mythtv-setup finds the correct channels, but says something along the lines of "no tables" |
| [02:21:01] | Juski: | schtinky: ouch. that's a bug I think. try 0.19-fixes |
| [02:21:02] | schtinky: | if I workaround that problem by getting the channels from zap2it datadirect instead |
| [02:21:09] | schtinky: | I have the latest version |
| [02:21:21] | schtinky: | I did svn get yesterday |
| [02:21:35] | schtinky: | it fixed my mysql timeout problem, which was good, but the no tables error is still there |
| [02:21:39] | Juski: | right. scanning is still pretty much in a state of flux right now |
| [02:21:55] | Beirdo: | OK, now this might backfire, I gotta see if it will work though ;) |
| [02:21:59] | schtinky: | anyway when I try to view the DTV stuff now (using Y to change cards) I get a blank screen |
| [02:22:05] | Juski: | no tables error refers to the service tables in the ATSC stream I think... |
| [02:22:07] | Beirdo: | time to try the new flood protection code in the bot |
| [02:22:11] | schtinky: | followed closely by a message saying "You should have gotten a lock by now" |
| [02:22:31] | Beirdo: | but first, recompile |
| [02:22:32] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:23:04] | schtinky: | none of my channels show up... Oh Auntie Em, how i'd love to get HD DVR action going on... |
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| [02:23:58] | schtinky: | juski, I think I have tried that. Maybe not after getting the "fixes" package. Which setting am I looking for exactly? |
| [02:24:29] | Beirdo: | it segfaulted, and I had coredumps disabled |
| [02:24:31] | Beirdo: | oh joy |
| [02:24:48] | Juski: | schtinky: erm... not 100% sure. stop mythbackend for a sec.. go into mythtv-setup, then tuner card setup.. then try looking for references to timeout values. |
| [02:25:03] | Juski: | when you're done in mythtv-setup, restart mythbackend |
| [02:25:46] | schtinky: | juski, signal timeout is what I found. SHould I have "EIT" scan checked? |
| [02:26:41] | schtinky: | juski, I set signal and tune to 10 seconds each. Should I try rescanning for channels or does that not matter? And why do the channel numbers not match up compared to dtvscan? |
| [02:27:14] | schtinky: | meaning... dtvscan shows the CBS affiliate on channel 13, yet mythtv finds it at 27, and zap2it has it on 27 |
| [02:27:31] | schtinky: | "mythtv finds it at 27" means it does show some signal there |
| [02:27:37] | schtinky: | during a scan |
| [02:27:42] | Juski: | schtinky: I dunno, not being a USA HD user |
| [02:27:54] | schtinky: | EIT? yes or no? |
| [02:28:10] | Juski: | EIT is the over the air programme guide. if you want it, enable that |
| [02:29:35] | schtinky: | no luck, still blank screen |
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| [02:30:27] | DrMitch: | so with MythWeb, I have to AllowOverride All (or whatever it is), but when I do it for that directory, the trailing slash bug happens in apache (I can't go to "http://localhost/mythweb" it has to be "http://localhost/mythweb/" ) anyone know how to fix that? |
| [02:31:26] | Juski: | schtinky: svn head isn't guaranteed to be much use to end users btw... you might have more luck with 0.19-fixes. lots of dvb related stuff had changed the last time I compiled svn |
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| [02:32:58] | Juski: | DrMitch: have you tried looking for the symptoms you're seeing on the -dev or -users lists ? |
| [02:33:30] | DrMitch: | i don't even know what the -dev -users lists are, you mean the forums? |
| [02:33:40] | GreyFoxx: | mailing lists |
| [02:33:51] | GreyFoxx: | they are not webforumns |
| [02:34:12] | schtinky: | I think I may have just had a breakthrough... in the capture card selection area, I had selected pcHDTV with v4l drivers... |
| [02:34:27] | Juski: | oh shit. now I get "failed to get pginfo" :-/ dammit |
| [02:34:44] | schtinky: | I realized it was using /dev/video1... which I think is only analog |
| [02:34:57] | schtinky: | which means I need to switch to the DVB driver |
| [02:35:15] | Juski: | schtinky: that'd do it I think |
| [02:35:26] | schtinky: | I just tried to use it and the backend complained that I need DVB support built into mythtv... I'm recompiling now |
| [02:35:29] | schtinky: | man I hope this works |
| [02:36:11] | schtinky: | that pcHDTV option in the cards menu is tricky if you don't know exactly what you're doing (like I don't) |
| [02:36:29] | schtinky: | the lay person (me) just thinks "Oh good there's an option for my card already there" |
| [02:36:33] | Juski: | heh. you'll learn soon enough :-) |
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| [02:37:30] | Beirdo: | got a core dump that time |
| [02:37:56] | Juski: | if I clear out the program table, will all my recorded show info still be okay? |
| [02:38:09] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [02:38:20] | GreyFoxx: | a copy is moved over to the recorded table |
| [02:38:25] | Juski: | cool. I think I'll be needing to do that |
| [02:39:41] | Juski: | I deleted a bunch of channels from one video source so I could rearrange them in bulk (damn channel numbers changed on my cable box!).. then slammed em back in again.. only now myth complains there's no pginfo fora show at 0:00 on 1 jan 1970 |
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| [02:40:23] | Beirdo: | OK, that should be fixed |
| [02:40:34] | Beirdo: | I had the parameters backwards on the call for the notices |
| [02:40:40] | Juski: | I'll wait til this mythfilldatabase finishes before I do anything rash.. and at least I have a DB backup :) |
| [02:40:46] | Beirdo: | dereferencing NULL = KABOOM! |
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| [02:42:20] | Beirdo: | croppa: did the bot's notice come through? |
| [02:43:56] | Juski: | hmm. where does myth keep the last channel/tuner info again? |
| [02:44:15] | Beirdo: | videosources maybe? |
| [02:46:01] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [02:46:04] | Beirdo: | cardinput |
| [02:46:33] | Beirdo: | startchan and tunechan fields look like what you were looking for, Juski? |
| [02:47:07] | Juski: | yeh just found em cheers |
| [02:47:10] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [02:48:46] | Juski: | heh. myth is set to start on a chan which no longer exists |
| [02:48:48] | Juski: | that'd do it |
| [02:50:45] | Juski: | and it did do it |
| [02:51:41] | Juski: | I think that might need a patch actually. be much nicer if myth just went off & tried to find the next good channel |
| [02:52:07] | Juski: | or at least hint that channel X doesn't exist |
| [02:52:36] | DrMitch: | hmmm... is it possible to control myth with a joystick? |
| [02:52:40] | Juski: | I mean if I didn't know what I've just been doing... it'd have taken ages to find out what the cause was |
| [02:53:02] | Juski: | DrMitch: yup.. with joystick support enabled when it's compiled |
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| [02:54:54] | DrMitch: | hmmmm... intriguing |
| [02:55:03] | Beirdo: | Juski, yeah, that catches a lot of people |
| [02:56:06] | Beirdo: | and I finally think I have the rssfeed stuff fixed, the issue was in my balanced binary search tree.. node removal became "tree fuckage" |
| [02:57:58] | Beirdo: | hehe, it's running with 11 threads now |
| [02:58:11] | Beirdo: | and 2.3M resident |
| [02:58:15] | Beirdo: | not too bad |
| [03:02:49] | Juski: | jees it's 4am... good job it's all fixed! |
| [03:02:57] | Juski: | night Beirdo & folks.... |
| [03:03:04] | Beirdo: | night, Juski |
| [03:03:08] | Beirdo: | sleep well |
| [03:04:58] | Mattwj2005: | hey guys....I am having a difficult problem.... |
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| [03:05:40] | Mattwj2005: | I can't install my NVIDIA drivers because I am using a rc of the kernel....anyway I can force it to work with the drivers? |
| [03:07:59] | DrMitch: | Mattwj2005, don't use a rc |
| [03:08:00] | DrMitch: | ? |
| [03:08:22] | Mattwj2005: | I need it for my hdtv tuner |
| [03:08:28] | DrMitch: | DOH |
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| [03:11:48] | DrMitch: | wait a minute, is joystick support enabled by default in ./configure? |
| [03:13:55] | Mattwj2005: | I got it to install with the --no-kernel-module option |
| [03:14:03] | Mattwj2005: | lets see what happens |
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| [03:18:19] | Mattwj2005: | still a no go |
| [03:26:02] | schtinky: | got a pcHDTV 5500... works fine in terminal with dtvscan, but I'm having trouble in myth. after selecting the card in mythtv-setup, I try to scan for channels, but it says "failed to probe card". I know the permissions are ok... what else can I do? |
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| [03:52:49] | Hoxzer: | :( |
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| [04:05:48] | infringer: | I try and try and it dont like me man been at this way way too long installtion should not have to be this difficult for a program |
| [04:06:13] | infringer: | errr |
| [04:06:24] | infringer: | sorry |
| [04:06:35] | infringer: | just frustrated folks |
| [04:07:42] | infringer: | My myth backend will not detect connections |
| [04:08:12] | infringer: | and I really have no idea how or what to do to make it do that ... |
| [04:08:14] | Dagmar: | Are you installing all three parts on one machine? |
| [04:08:24] | infringer: | yes |
| [04:08:27] | infringer: | one machine |
| [04:08:38] | infringer: | 127.0.0.1 |
| [04:08:38] | Dagmar: | It should be all automatic then. |
| [04:08:47] | Dagmar: | We'll need more detail about what's going on than "it doesn't like me" |
| [04:08:48] | infringer: | should |
| [04:08:56] | Dagmar: | It was all entirely automatic for me. |
| [04:09:17] | Dagmar: | Unless you're firewalling localhost... |
| [04:09:39] | infringer: | no shouldnt be I've tried without a firewall all together |
| [04:10:02] | Dagmar: | We'll still need more details. |
| [04:10:17] | infringer: | only thing I can figure on trying is redirecting it to my lan ip |
| [04:10:19] | Dagmar: | ...and for reference, localhost should never be firewalled. |
| [04:10:19] | infringer: | ok |
| [04:10:55] | infringer: | it aint cause I can run simplite server through localhost without a problem |
| [04:11:09] | infringer: | but if there is a way I can double check if local host is firewalled |
| [04:11:18] | infringer: | I'd gladly double check |
| [04:11:38] | DrMitch: | isn't the setup PIN option supposed to ask for the PIN everytime you enter setup? |
| [04:11:38] | Dagmar: | pfft. iptables -L -n -v |
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| [04:15:41] | infringer: | nope |
| [04:15:49] | infringer: | hrmmmm one moment |
| [04:15:50] | DrMitch: | what's the purpose of pin? |
| [04:18:14] | infringer: | dagmar http://pastebin.ca/82954 |
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| [04:20:09] | Dagmar: | Keeping the kiddies from screwing up your config |
| [04:21:08] | infringer: | yes |
| [04:21:16] | Dagmar: | infringer: Is the backend _running_ when this happens? |
| [04:21:18] | DrMitch: | yea, so why isn't it asking me for a pin when i enter setup? I have Setup PIN required Checked, and i have a PIN entered |
| [04:21:31] | Dagmar: | ...and is it bound to 127.0.0.1:6543? (netstat -tunap will say) |
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| [04:22:38] | citrus: | is there a command for mythtv to automaticaly generate movie cover art by taking screenshot of the movie it self? |
| [04:23:39] | DrMitch: | ohh, i guess the PIN has a timeout of...like 5 minutes or something? |
| [04:23:48] | infringer: | dagmar it is not running but I can try to start from terminal |
| [04:24:17] | Dagmar: | infringer: Perhaps you missed the bit in the pastebin that mentioned it expects that the backend is actually running so that it can connect to it? |
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| [04:26:36] | GreyFoxx: | citrus: Yes and no. Myth will take a preview snapshot from a recording, but it is not tied into anything "movie" or mythvideo related |
| [04:26:48] | citrus: | ah |
| [04:26:49] | citrus: | ok |
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| [04:31:39] | infringer: | so it is a requirement to start both backend and frontend from terminal each time you wish to run |
| [04:31:39] | infringer: | ok |
| [04:31:57] | xris: | no |
| [04:32:02] | infringer: | dang connection got dropped |
| [04:32:04] | infringer: | internet |
| [04:32:12] | infringer: | hopefully I didnt miss any thing |
| [04:32:14] | infringer: | http://pastebin.ca/82958 |
| [04:32:14] | xris: | most packages come with a sysV init script for the backend |
| [04:32:37] | infringer: | dagmar if you're still round theres a backend log on startup from terminal |
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| [04:33:40] | infringer: | what I dont understand is why its starting as a slave backend |
| [04:33:52] | infringer: | should it not be a master? |
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| [04:41:50] | jedix: | has anyone had problems with the bt878 module freezing on boot? |
| [04:42:34] | Anduin: | infringer: Its IP and the master IP don't match then. |
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| [04:49:54] | ** DrMitch ponders if there's a wireless gamepad for controlling myth as a boxtop ** | |
| [04:56:52] | infringer: | anduin how do I set the master IP then |
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| [05:13:15] | infringer: | I dunno I've set all ips in every configuration to 127.0.0.1 |
| [05:13:36] | infringer: | even states that is what it is trying to connect to |
| [05:13:58] | Dagmar: | Then drop the mythconverg table and recreate it |
| [05:14:25] | infringer: | you mean the database |
| [05:14:49] | infringer: | ok |
| [05:14:51] | Dagmar: | You can wipe out the whole database if you like |
| [05:15:02] | Dagmar: | It only stores things in mythconverg |
| [05:15:13] | infringer: | ok |
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| [05:15:46] | DrMitch: | noooo, you'll lose all your settings :-( |
| [05:16:02] | DrMitch: | that's my only beef with myth |
| [05:16:10] | Dagmar: | He hasn't DONE anything with it yet |
| [05:16:17] | DrMitch: | oh okay |
| [05:16:17] | DrMitch: | hehe |
| [05:16:22] | DrMitch: | permission granted then |
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| [05:23:20] | Mattwj2005: | what is the difference between a backend and a master backend? |
| [05:23:23] | infringer: | drop database mythconverg correct? |
| [05:23:35] | infringer: | friggin giving me an error |
| [05:24:59] | DrMitch: | put a semicolon after that |
| [05:24:59] | DrMitch: | ; |
| [05:25:51] | DrMitch: | all commands in mysql need ; after them except for "use database" |
| [05:26:15] | infringer: | yes I was using finally got it to drop though thanks DrMitch |
| [05:27:37] | Mattwj2005: | anyone know anything about mythbackends? |
| [05:28:39] | DrMitch: | you wanna know the difference still? |
| [05:29:01] | Mattwj2005: | yeah please |
| [05:30:06] | DrMitch: | i'm just guessing but maybe to distribute workload and/or recording more than 1 show |
| [05:30:22] | Mattwj2005: | that would be cool |
| [05:31:31] | DrMitch: | again just a guess |
| [05:31:43] | Mattwj2005: | yeah I am going to have an HDTV tuner in one backend and regular analog in the other |
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| [05:50:57] | alieas: | I'm using the GUI off-set / resize features, and they work great except the OS Gnome GUI (top and bottom bars) shows up over it. This doesn't happen if I dont' use the offset / resize features. |
| [05:51:21] | alieas: | Does anybody know of a way to solve this? Or else I guess I will move to fluxbox or a window manager that does not use title bars |
| [05:52:31] | DrMitch: | umm what res are you using and what gui sizes are you using? |
| [05:52:44] | DrMitch: | is it like 1024x768 and you're gui is 800x600 ? |
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| [05:53:55] | alieas: | the resolution is 1280x720 (DVI -> HDMI) |
| [05:54:18] | alieas: | It has the regular overscan issues, so I'd like to use the MythTV resize. |
| [05:54:56] | alieas: | I currently have that set to: 1190x720 (Y shrinking not required), and GUI X offset 60 pixels |
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| [05:55:22] | alieas: | this resizes the myth gui almost perfectly – except the gnome "bars" :) |
| [05:56:01] | alieas: | they only show up when using the mythtv gui resize feature |
| [05:56:40] | alieas: | I didn't try a reboot, because I'm kind of doubting that will work- but it will be my next step |
| [05:56:52] | alieas: | (I restarted X, didn't help any) |
| [05:57:48] | Anduin: | alieas: Is this not a dedicated myth box? |
| [05:57:55] | alieas: | dedicated myth |
| [05:58:05] | alieas: | so I can dump gnome or whatever if thats the solutionj |
| [05:58:09] | Anduin: | alieas: Then throw gnome out, gdm, small wm, done. |
| [05:58:23] | alieas: | heh, that was what I was going to do. |
| [05:59:06] | alieas: | um, I tried installing fluxbox apt-get fluxbox but I don't know how to switch to it. can you offer some quick insight on how to switch window managers (ubuntu breezy / debian) |
| [05:59:49] | Anduin: | alieas: I don't debian, but there is often something like switchdesk, or ~/.Xclients |
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| [06:02:32] | LLyric: | Man I can't get the fonts/dialogs in mythtv looking good |
| [06:02:48] | CpuID: | sup ppls |
| [06:02:48] | LLyric: | Like, my next/prev/finish buttons are off the bottom, OSD font is too big |
| [06:03:00] | CpuID: | anyone using any mythfrontend's over wifi at all? |
| [06:03:12] | Anduin: | LLyric: DPI looks right? |
| [06:03:18] | CpuID: | just interested on other ppls setups, and what the performance is like |
| [06:03:27] | DrMitch: | hey xris, is there a way to disable the configuration part of MythWeb? or should I just manually edit the php? |
| [06:03:42] | xris: | why disable it? |
| [06:03:52] | xris: | but no |
| [06:04:16] | DrMitch: | cause i'm gonna make a pvr in the living room and i don't want my roommates messing with the settings |
| [06:04:23] | Dagmar: | If DPI were correct, I'd be suprised. X almost never gets it right. |
| [06:04:31] | DrMitch: | but i want them to be able to schedule and stuff via mythweb |
| [06:05:32] | Mattwj2005: | hey xris |
| [06:05:48] | andrewski: | i finally just got LIRC set up (from source on ubuntu) and irw recognizes the right buttons; is anything supposed to work automatically (e.g. volume) or do i need to configure everything? |
| [06:05:57] | xris: | most of mythweb's settings are per-user |
| [06:06:02] | xris: | stuff like theme, etc |
| [06:06:05] | andrewski: | (by the way, i'm not actually running mythtv.) |
| [06:06:20] | xris: | andrewski: then why are you asking here? |
| [06:06:49] | andrewski: | xris: because this is the only place i've been able to get LIRC help, and someone earlier intimated that asking in #lirc is like pissing in the wind. |
| [06:06:51] | xris: | and all lirc does is take the remote button presses and turn turn them into keystrokes/commands according to the config file |
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| [06:07:38] | andrewski: | xris: ok... i've followed a few sets of instructions up to this point, but i haven't seen anything about that. where would i find such config file instructions? |
| [06:08:07] | Mattwj2005: | xris what do you know about master and non-master backends? |
| [06:08:09] | xris: | andrewski: I only know how to use it with specific programs (googling on lircrc will give you some info, though) |
| [06:08:14] | xris: | Mattwj2005: not much |
| [06:08:20] | xris: | it sort of just works |
| [06:08:22] | andrewski: | xris: cheers |
| [06:08:40] | Mattwj2005: | do they distribute the load among the backends? |
| [06:08:46] | xris: | Mattwj2005: load? |
| [06:09:00] | Mattwj2005: | for example if your transcoding |
| [06:09:07] | Mattwj2005: | or commflagging |
| [06:10:17] | xris: | usually done on the backend that actually holds the recording |
| [06:10:28] | Mattwj2005: | oh |
| [06:10:40] | CpuID: | so no wifi frontends here at all? |
| [06:11:02] | Mattwj2005: | I got two backends now.... |
| [06:11:12] | Mattwj2005: | I am just trying to figure out what to do with them |
| [06:11:58] | LoneShadow: | ship me one for free :D |
| [06:12:06] | Mattwj2005: | lol |
| [06:12:22] | Mattwj2005: | actually I have 3 if you count my laptop ;) |
| [06:12:32] | LoneShadow: | put the extra one in your gf or parents place |
| [06:12:41] | Mattwj2005: | I am only use that as a frontend though...no tv tuners on that |
| [06:12:45] | LoneShadow: | even better, give it to your gf's parents :P |
| [06:12:52] | Mattwj2005: | no gf :( |
| [06:13:10] | LoneShadow: | ok give to some parents who have an eligible daughter :P |
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| [06:13:22] | Mattwj2005: | lol awesome ida |
| [06:13:26] | Mattwj2005: | *idea :P |
| [06:14:00] | CpuID: | lol |
| [06:14:24] | CpuID: | ok...next question then, anyone using DVB tuners at all? |
| [06:14:30] | CpuID: | if so, what kinda system specs? |
| [06:14:40] | Mattwj2005: | I have a HDTV tuner card |
| [06:14:51] | CpuID: | ah yep coo, just a single tuner? |
| [06:14:53] | Mattwj2005: | a pchdtv-5500....it uses dvb drivers |
| [06:15:00] | Mattwj2005: | correct |
| [06:15:05] | CpuID: | ive got 2 usb 2.0 tuners here atm |
| [06:15:07] | DrMitch: | there, all better |
| [06:15:31] | CpuID: | cpu specs Mattwj2005 ? |
| [06:15:46] | Mattwj2005: | it is sad....1.3 Ghz Celeron |
| [06:16:13] | Mattwj2005: | 384 MB 80 GB |
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| [06:16:37] | Mattwj2005: | currently using the motherboard video....but I do have a GeForce 5200 for it |
| [06:16:55] | CpuID: | are you just using it for local playback? or is your frontend elsewhere on your lan? |
| [06:17:10] | Mattwj2005: | my frontend is my laptop |
| [06:17:15] | CpuID: | for all i know wifi could be my bottleneck, but im not 100% yet gonna test once this tv show is over |
| [06:17:24] | CpuID: | ah yep nice |
| [06:17:25] | CpuID: | 100mbit lan? |
| [06:17:29] | Mattwj2005: | yeah |
| [06:17:34] | CpuID: | playback is clear? |
| [06:17:42] | Mattwj2005: | it is pretty good |
| [06:17:47] | CpuID: | hmm coo coo |
| [06:17:56] | CpuID: | wifi is a likely cause here, its just a bit jittery |
| [06:18:30] | CpuID: | im using a dual p3 1ghz server with those 2 usb tuners, 1gb ram |
| [06:18:38] | Mattwj2005: | I only pick up the local HDTV channels.....no QAM cables besides |
| [06:18:43] | Mattwj2005: | awesome |
| [06:18:43] | CpuID: | and my frontend is this laptop atm on wifi, but im gonna wire it in shortly |
| [06:18:44] | LLyric: | Anduin: fglrx(0): DPI set to (121, 101) |
| [06:18:52] | LLyric: | Is that okay? |
| [06:18:58] | CpuID: | my first issue was free hdd :) |
| [06:19:08] | CpuID: | as from what i can tell myth records everything then incrementally deletes or something? |
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| [06:19:29] | CpuID: | i stuck a 40gb ide drive with jfs in now, into the backend/server |
| [06:19:34] | Mattwj2005: | yeah I am looking at getting a bigger hd |
| [06:20:02] | Mattwj2005: | www.newegg.com has a nice 300 GB one for a good price |
| [06:20:31] | dtm: | Mattwj2005: about how much |
| [06:20:33] | dtm: | just curious. |
| [06:20:47] | CpuID: | im looking into a nice big sata based array atm for storage |
| [06:20:52] | CpuID: | as im over adding small drives |
| [06:20:55] | dtm: | do we have any md (raid1 recovery) experts here |
| [06:21:01] | CpuID: | wouldnt mind building 1 nice big array to last me a while :) |
| [06:21:05] | CpuID: | iscsi is looking tempting |
| [06:21:15] | ** LLyric can't get the second tuner (usb) on his capture card working properly either ;( ** | |
| [06:21:19] | CpuID: | ick not recovery, never had an mdraid die on me yet :) |
| [06:21:25] | CpuID: | LLyric: which card/s? |
| [06:21:35] | LLyric: | CpuID: dvico dual tuner HD |
| [06:21:39] | CpuID: | ah k |
| [06:21:40] | CpuID: | never used it |
| [06:21:45] | ** CpuID has 2 twinhan vp7045s ** | |
| [06:21:50] | Mattwj2005: | $87.99 |
| [06:21:52] | CpuID: | which kernel drivers you using? |
| [06:22:24] | Mattwj2005: | correction $93.99 |
| [06:22:28] | LLyric: | cx8800 etc |
| [06:22:37] | CpuID: | version> |
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| [06:22:47] | CpuID: | mainstream kernel? hg repo? |
| [06:23:16] | LLyric: | mainstream, integrated since 2.6.16 or so |
| [06:23:26] | LLyric: | Using fc5 kernel |
| [06:23:41] | LLyric: | the pci half works great, just not the usb half |
| [06:24:07] | LLyric: | The usb half mostly works, just gets a bunch of usb errors (EPROTO and ETIMEDOUT) |
| [06:24:49] | CpuID: | hmm weird |
| [06:25:03] | CpuID: | i remember on my vp7045s i was using old v4l cvs drivers with dvb-usb for a bit there |
| [06:25:14] | CpuID: | and there were bugs causing hard system locks when using both tuners |
| [06:25:26] | CpuID: | went to 2.6.16 then 2.6.17, both were fine in mainstream |
| [06:25:36] | CpuID: | it was a confirmed issue, and yea it got fixed |
| [06:25:41] | CpuID: | cvs v4l was kinda old too :) |
| [06:26:01] | LLyric: | I've got so many little issues not, it's really frustrating. |
| [06:26:17] | LLyric: | I had my old mythbox working great (pvr-350 only). |
| [06:26:32] | LLyric: | on an epia 800Mhz chip |
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| [06:26:47] | CpuID: | not bad not bad |
| [06:26:52] | LLyric: | THe new one dual-dvb, dual-core 3800+, lotsa disk, nvidia 6600 = works a lot less well |
| [06:27:05] | CpuID: | see im pretty sure my bottleneck isnt server cpu, as its only using like 10% max at any time |
| [06:27:19] | ** LLyric wants to play HD ** | |
| [06:27:22] | CpuID: | and the fact you were using it on an 800mhz :) |
| [06:27:22] | CpuID: | ah |
| [06:27:36] | CpuID: | i think ive gotta get my signal strength up a bit before i use HD more |
| [06:27:40] | LLyric: | pvr-350 has hardware mpeg encode and decode. Uses practically no CPU. |
| [06:27:46] | dtm: | CpuID: well this one hasn't died. i'm trying to convert an existing drive into a raid1, so i had to start it as degraded and then recover it so that md mirrors it. |
| [06:27:50] | CpuID: | HD is broadcasted here but yea im only getting 40–50% or so signal strength |
| [06:28:04] | CpuID: | ag np dtm |
| [06:28:09] | CpuID: | makes sense LLyric |
| [06:28:14] | LLyric: | I only get 20% it works fine |
| [06:28:23] | LLyric: | 5–6 db snr |
| [06:28:55] | CpuID: | whats a good SNR on digital these days in your opinion? |
| [06:29:02] | CpuID: | i think im getting 4.7db snr atm |
| [06:29:12] | CpuID: | give or take |
| [06:29:14] | ** LLyric shrugs. I've been doing this about 2 weeks now, without too much success as you can see :) ** | |
| [06:29:20] | CpuID: | hehe ah k |
| [06:29:37] | LLyric: | I'd check my own snr, but it's recording, and I can't get the second+third tuners working properly |
| [06:29:53] | LLyric: | Appears pvr-350 has some issues with dvb-t drivers, something about v4l or whatever |
| [06:30:39] | Mattwj2005: | yeah llyric....my laptop is 3.3 Ghz 1 GB RAM 100 GB HD ATI Radeon Mobile 9000 (graphic card worthless under Linux for help) |
| [06:31:15] | LLyric: | Mattwj2005: no luck with vendor ati drivers? |
| [06:31:38] | LLyric: | My "Radeon Mobility M300" works okay |
| [06:31:46] | Mattwj2005: | well I mean it doesn't have acceleration ablilities |
| [06:32:32] | Mattwj2005: | at least I don't think it does :-s |
| [06:32:45] | LLyric: | did you try with vendor ati drivers? |
| [06:32:50] | LLyric: | the xorg ones are crap :) |
| [06:33:07] | Mattwj2005: | no I haven't |
| [06:33:21] | LLyric: | You should try them. |
| [06:33:29] | Mattwj2005: | I am just using the ones that came with opensuse |
| [06:33:35] | Mattwj2005: | good idea |
| [06:33:39] | LLyric: | They're probably xorg drivers |
| [06:34:40] | Mattwj2005: | I am guessing so |
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| [06:41:28] | CpuID: | ok back soon |
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| [06:56:03] | Mattwj2005: | anyone got a pchdtv-3000 or pchdtv-5500? |
| [06:57:07] | Mattwj2005: | I was just wondering how the whole analog hdtv thing is setup |
| [06:57:51] | Mattwj2005: | I want to make sure it records HDTV whenever possible instead of Analog |
| [06:58:08] | Mattwj2005: | when the same show is on |
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| [07:10:37] | xris: | Mattwj2005: huh? |
| [07:10:43] | xris: | different channels |
| [07:11:05] | DrMitch: | didn't lious lane figure out that clark kent was superman when he fell and his hand landed in the hot coals when they were on vacation? |
| [07:11:15] | DrMitch: | in like superman 2 or something |
| [07:11:48] | Mattwj2005: | well with my pcHDTV tuner....you have to set the HDTV tuner up as a virtual tuner and the analog portion as another virtual tuner |
| [07:11:56] | xris: | yes |
| [07:12:01] | xris: | but hd and non-hd are different channels |
| [07:12:14] | xris: | hd shows up as a subchannel.. 4.1, 4.2, etc |
| [07:12:15] | Anduin: | He could have an "on any channel" rule. |
| [07:12:34] | Mattwj2005: | yeah I know that.....but lets say you have the same channel on 4 and 4.1 |
| [07:12:45] | xris: | Anduin: and in that case, there's not much to do except manually disable things... until myth actually lets you prioritize one tuner over another |
| [07:12:51] | xris: | Mattwj2005: then you say "only on channel 4.1" |
| [07:12:53] | Mattwj2005: | I want MythTV to record on 4.1 not 4 |
| [07:13:21] | Mattwj2005: | what about the tuner preference? |
| [07:13:52] | xris: | last I checked, there was no way to say "use this tuner FIRST, if it's not busy" |
| [07:14:08] | CpuID2: | hmm, is it correct to say that mythtv records everything being watched on livetv and then incrementally deletes over time? |
| [07:14:24] | xris: | Mattwj2005: or just remove the analog matches for the hd channels. |
| [07:14:25] | Mattwj2005: | there is a tuner preference option |
| [07:14:29] | xris: | CpuID2: yes |
| [07:14:42] | CpuID2: | ah k, is how long it keeps configurable? |
| [07:14:44] | xris: | Mattwj2005: hmm, that may be new, then. |
| [07:15:00] | xris: | CpuID2: based on what else you record.. |
| [07:15:14] | xris: | it keeps it until you run out of disk space (up to the max that you configure) |
| [07:15:17] | CpuID2: | ah |
| [07:15:21] | CpuID2: | makes sense |
| [07:15:28] | CpuID2: | where bouts do you configure the max hdd to use? |
| [07:15:31] | Anduin: | Card priority had been there for some time (part of that bjm thread) |
| [07:15:46] | xris: | CpuID2: it's actually min free space... it's in the frontend settings womewhere. |
| [07:16:05] | CpuID2: | np ill have a look around |
| [07:16:05] | xris: | Anduin: last I heard it didn't work, though |
| [07:16:19] | CpuID2: | thx |
| [07:16:25] | Anduin: | xris: It didn't work right (depending on which world view you have). |
| [07:16:31] | xris: | ahh |
| [07:16:38] | Mattwj2005: | I guess I am wondering if tuner preference option would give preference all HDTV shows |
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| [07:16:54] | Anduin: | CpuID2: There is a live TV timeout (it will expire before your disk is full) |
| [07:16:57] | xris: | Mattwj2005: why even use the analog tuner? |
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| [07:17:09] | CpuID2: | hmm ok then |
| [07:17:10] | Mattwj2005: | because most of my channels are analog |
| [07:17:26] | xris: | Mattwj2005: you only have the pchdtv and not a pvr-x50? |
| [07:17:39] | CpuID2: | also, in your opinion would you say 2 usb 2.0 dvb tuners would be fine on a dual p3 1ghz? the box is solely a backend, all frontends are remote |
| [07:17:43] | Anduin: | CpuID2: er, days are configurable. |
| [07:18:07] | CpuID2: | i can schedule transcoding recordings for during the night at least |
| [07:18:08] | xris: | CpuID2: digital tv doesn't use much cpu to record, so you should be fine.. assuming the tuners actually work in linux |
| [07:18:10] | Mattwj2005: | just an analog pchdtv-5500....but I do have a wintv card as well...that is in another backend |
| [07:18:16] | CpuID2: | yep np they do work :) |
| [07:18:19] | CpuID2: | at least now they do hehe |
| [07:18:30] | CpuID2: | as its a raw mpeg-2 stream im guessing |
| [07:18:41] | xris: | Mattwj2005: just be warned that the analog stuff on the pchdtv is software encoder stuff... not the greatest quality |
| [07:19:28] | Mattwj2005: | my old card is analog and worse quality ;) |
| [07:20:00] | xris: | ahh |
| [07:20:11] | xris: | you mean software encoder? |
| [07:20:23] | Mattwj2005: | yeah sorry....I am getting tired |
| [07:20:59] | xris: | same here. I should go sleep or something |
| [07:21:30] | ** CpuID2 is gonna go read more on postfix while waiting for mysql to rebuild :) ** | |
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| [07:39:16] | ** Mattwj2005 is waiting for the mythfilldatabase to complete ** | |
| [07:40:14] | Mattwj2005: | cupid2 what are you doing with postfix? |
| [07:40:26] | CpuID2: | Mattwj2005, just skimming over a book here on it ive got |
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| [07:40:29] | CpuID2: | gonna use it here at home |
| [07:40:35] | CpuID2: | just to learn how to use it a bit more |
| [07:40:38] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay |
| [07:40:41] | Mattwj2005: | sounds fun |
| [07:40:54] | CpuID2: | hmm, wheres the audio output configs for frontends stored? |
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| [07:42:19] | dorel__: | hmmm, how do you guys work with sound? |
| [07:42:21] | CpuID2: | nm i think i know my issue |
| [07:42:39] | dorel__: | on the pvr 150 there's a stereo line in for sound- is that what im supposed to use? |
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| [07:48:20] | Anduin: | dorel__: That is an input if you are using s-video/composite input |
| [07:51:38] | dorel__: | right |
| [07:51:48] | dorel__: | i've connected the rca, the yellow thing |
| [07:52:07] | dorel__: | so i also connected stereo line in but im not hearing anything |
| [07:52:48] | Anduin: | dorel__: Other sound works? You've tried on a different player? etc |
| [07:53:08] | Mattwj2005: | does the pvr-150 need to be hooked up to your soundcard? |
| [07:53:18] | Anduin: | Mattwj2005: No. |
| [07:53:31] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay...I thought it was worth a shot :) |
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| [07:58:25] | CpuID2: | woot got tv working here :) |
| [07:58:31] | CpuID2: | not sure why i cant quite get HD though |
| [07:58:35] | CpuID2: | its a bit choppy thats all |
| [08:00:24] | Mattwj2005: | what are your specs? |
| [08:00:52] | CpuID2: | server (backend only) is a dual p3 1ghz |
| [08:00:54] | CpuID2: | with 1gb of ram |
| [08:01:02] | CpuID2: | and 2 usb 2.0 tuners plugged into a usb 2.0 pci card |
| [08:01:19] | CpuID2: | then running gigE to my switch, this frontend is only 100mbit |
| [08:01:29] | Mattwj2005: | what about your frontend? |
| [08:01:29] | CpuID2: | but bandwidth isnt the issue as im nowhere near peaking out on lan |
| [08:01:35] | CpuID2: | frontend, p3 800, 512mb ram |
| [08:01:36] | Mattwj2005: | what are the specs on that? |
| [08:01:40] | CpuID2: | 128mb nvidia fx5200 |
| [08:01:56] | CpuID2: | 100mbit lan atm, soon to me gigE |
| [08:02:06] | Mattwj2005: | 800 Mhz???? it shouldn't be able to play HDTV even with a good graphics card |
| [08:03:32] | Mattwj2005: | I have been told my 1.3 Ghz Celeron won't even work with a Geforce FX 5200 |
| [08:03:50] | CpuID2: | hehe :) |
| [08:03:58] | CpuID2: | probly just my frontend then |
| [08:04:00] | CpuID2: | all good |
| [08:04:05] | ** CpuID2 is gonna upgrade this sometime in the future ** | |
| [08:04:11] | CpuID2: | what would you recommend frontend wise for HD? |
| [08:04:22] | CpuID2: | as im gonna buy a dedicated media pc for the loungeroom as a frontend son |
| [08:04:24] | CpuID2: | soon* |
| [08:04:25] | Mattwj2005: | yeah me too....I want my next system to be 4 Ghz or more |
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| [08:04:51] | Mattwj2005: | hopefully 64 bit |
| [08:05:06] | dorel__: | Anduin: what do you mean on a different player? |
| [08:05:32] | Dagmar: | Mattwj2005: Umm... did they give a _reason_ for that supposed incompatibility? |
| [08:05:35] | Anduin: | dorel__: xine, mplayer, windows media player, etc. |
| [08:05:53] | Mattwj2005: | too slow |
| [08:06:07] | Dagmar: | With XvMC? |
| [08:06:35] | Mattwj2005: | that is what you guys have told me before |
| [08:07:20] | CpuID2: | where does xvmc help really? at the frontend or the backend? |
| [08:08:12] | dorel__: | Anduin: im talking about the stereo line in on the pvr 150. how can i check it with mplayer? |
| [08:08:45] | Anduin: | dorel__: create an mpeg file, play it |
| [08:09:05] | Dagmar: | XvMC is for hardware-accellerated decoding of *video* |
| [08:09:40] | dorel__: | Anduin: oh i see what you mean. |
| [08:09:53] | CpuID2: | decoding, ok... |
| [08:10:01] | CpuID2: | now, im guessing that would be at the frontend? :) |
| [08:10:05] | dorel__: | Anduin: though is there a better way to check if the stereo line-in is functional? maybe i need to set it up? set up the device file or something? |
| [08:10:29] | Dagmar: | You couldn't (and wouldn't want to) encode 1080 on a 1.3Ghz CPU in realtime, but playback shouldn't be that big of a deal |
| [08:11:27] | Dagmar: | Enough can't be said about the utility of a good hardware-accellerated encoder in a tuner card. |
| [08:11:30] | Anduin: | dorel__: Creating a test mpeg is about the quickest thing you can do. If that doesn't work you can start looking at dmesg to make sure ivtv loaded (and sub-modules) |
| [08:12:14] | dorel__: | ok hold up a sec, ill check it |
| [08:14:02] | Dagmar: | BTW, 800Mhz would be enough for non-HD playback |
| [08:15:14] | Dagmar: | I've got a notebook that can do fullscreen playback of regular recorded video, and it's only got a 500Mhz CPU in it |
| [08:15:24] | Dagmar: | well, 500Mhz on battery. 650Mhz plugged into the wall |
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| [08:20:05] | Mattwj2005: | yeah definitely 800 Mhz is fine for Analog playback |
| [08:20:22] | CpuID2: | hmm interesting |
| [08:20:26] | Dagmar: | Umm... It's always going to be digital. |
| [08:20:29] | Mattwj2005: | you don't even need a good graphics card for that |
| [08:20:31] | Dagmar: | It's in the computer. |
| [08:20:32] | CpuID2: | what about 800mhz for HD? |
| [08:20:41] | CpuID2: | would jittery playback be expected? |
| [08:20:42] | Dagmar: | You might be pushing it there. |
| [08:20:43] | CpuID2: | thats bout what i get |
| [08:21:06] | Dagmar: | 1080 formats are going to take about 4x the processing power of 480-sized formats |
| [08:21:28] | Mattwj2005: | for playback....recording is a whole other story |
| [08:21:34] | Dagmar: | You can maybe get around that if you're only outputting at 640x480 tho |
| [08:22:07] | Mattwj2005: | you can do like I do....use a faster computer for the frontend :) |
| [08:22:18] | Dagmar: | I'm not sure if the software knows not to try completely decoding frames, but it's basically a bunch of JPEG data. it doesn't have to *all* be computed out. Only enough to make the image as sharp as "needed" |
| [08:25:47] | dorel__: | Anduin: ok definitely not working the line-in on the pvr 150. |
| [08:26:16] | dorel__: | Anduin: ill paste my ivtv log. |
| [08:26:30] | CpuID2: | my frontend uses maybe 30–50% cpu right now doing non-HD digital content |
| [08:26:50] | CpuID2: | a core duo 1.86 would be enough for a HD frontend right? :) |
| [08:27:42] | dorel__: | Anduin: http://pastebin.ca/83062 |
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| [08:29:10] | Dagmar: | If you have an nVidia card with both IDCT and MC and XvMCNVIDIA is doing what it's supposed to, mayb. |
| [08:29:18] | Anduin: | dorel__: That looks OK to me, ivtvctrl -a? |
| [08:29:50] | Mattwj2005: | yeah HDTV is the biggest CPU hog that I can think of....besides *maybe* games |
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| [08:30:28] | CpuID2: | Dagmar, intel GMA from memory in the core duo box im looking at |
| [08:30:34] | CpuID2: | onboard tv out etc |
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| [08:31:47] | Dagmar: | Well, I've no idea what kind of perversions mac hardware gets into |
| [08:32:21] | CpuID2: | hehe :) |
| [08:32:23] | CpuID2: | tisnt mac hw |
| [08:32:25] | dorel__: | Anduin: http://pastebin.ca/83066 |
| [08:32:31] | CpuID2: | same form factor though :) |
| [08:32:32] | CpuID2: | aopen minipc |
| [08:32:36] | Mattwj2005: | personally I want to get an AMD 64 bit processor of some kind :) |
| [08:32:41] | CpuID2: | MP945-VX |
| [08:32:42] | CpuID2: | hehe |
| [08:32:52] | Dagmar: | CpuID2: Might as well be a Mac. it's a mac mini clone |
| [08:32:53] | CpuID2: | im all for amd 64bit boxen, but size is of the essence here |
| [08:32:56] | CpuID2: | hehe yea basically :) |
| [08:33:03] | CpuID2: | form factor licensed from intel |
| [08:33:29] | Dagmar: | Mac Mini's can apparently handle it, so it might with some tweaking |
| [08:33:39] | Dagmar: | s/'//; |
| [08:33:52] | CpuID2: | http://minipc.aopen.com/Global/spec.htm |
| [08:34:01] | CpuID2: | hmm seems they have a new model, with a remote i think |
| [08:34:07] | Mattwj2005: | though only thing I wonder about is how buggy the hardware support is for the 64 bit processor |
| [08:34:20] | Dagmar: | I am generally not trying to stuff a PC into my rear or something, so it can be large. |
| [08:34:23] | Dagmar: | Doesn't bother me a bit. |
| [08:34:36] | Anduin: | dorel__: ivtvctl -y mute=0 maybe |
| [08:34:56] | Dagmar: | I could put that thing *inside* some of my cases without removing hardware, which kind of says to me "You are paying large dollars for smallness" |
| [08:34:57] | dorel__: | mythtv:~# ivtvctl -y mute=0 |
| [08:34:57] | dorel__: | ioctl VIDIOC_S_CTRL ok |
| [08:35:06] | dorel__: | Anduin: a sec, ill test it. |
| [08:35:10] | Dagmar: | Frankly, I prefer large. |
| [08:35:24] | Dagmar: | I spent too many years trying to cram components into freaking minitowers for customers. |
| [08:35:46] | CpuID2: | hehe :) |
| [08:35:55] | Dagmar: | After awhile, the scars of getting cut to shreds on those cheap Taiwanese *unbuffed* edges kinda of ran together |
| [08:35:56] | CpuID2: | usually im not phased by size |
| [08:36:04] | CpuID2: | but i just want something very small for the loungeroom |
| [08:36:22] | CpuID2: | its to be a frontend only, nothing more |
| [08:36:27] | CpuID2: | just a tv display box really |
| [08:37:04] | CpuID2: | usually in my office im all for rackmountable hw :) |
| [08:37:15] | CpuID2: | not phased bout how many RU, but yea |
| [08:37:16] | Dagmar: | How much are those little things running, anways? |
| [08:37:20] | dorel__: | Anduin: btw, im testing it by doing "cat /dev/video0 >> /tmp/test.mpg" and connecting an mp3 player to the stereo line in on the pvr 150. i hope this is ok. |
| [08:37:20] | CpuID2: | as a desktop im good for towers |
| [08:38:03] | Anduin: | dorel__: Why not record from your real source, also try from cable as well. |
| [08:38:04] | CpuID2: | pricewise, for an MP945-vx, i worked out with a core duo 1.86, 1gb ddr2, a 40 or 60gb 2.5" sata (cant remember which) it was like $1250aud give or take |
| [08:38:07] | Dagmar: | oh funny! "AOpen Proprietary super quite FAN (below 27dB)" |
| [08:38:12] | CpuID2: | like $200 cheaper than an identical spec'd mac mini :) |
| [08:38:16] | CpuID2: | hehehe |
| [08:38:22] | Dagmar: | That's still like twice the money |
| [08:38:29] | CpuID2: | size |
| [08:38:29] | CpuID2: | :) |
| [08:38:42] | ** CpuID2 is prepared to pay for size in this unique circumstance ** | |
| [08:38:51] | Dagmar: | I guess. |
| [08:38:54] | CpuID2: | or lack of for that matter :) |
| [08:39:12] | Dagmar: | I'm busily eyeballing the am2 daughtercards for my board |
| [08:39:31] | CpuID2: | hehe :) |
| [08:39:34] | Dagmar: | I might try to jump over the 4Ghz line for christmas |
| [08:39:38] | CpuID2: | im gonna go opteron for my next desktop here |
| [08:39:48] | CpuID2: | this p3 800 will only last another 3–6 months id say |
| [08:39:52] | Dagmar: | I will never regret buying this board unless it up and dies on me |
| [08:39:55] | CpuID2: | hehe :) |
| [08:40:02] | Dagmar: | ...and even then... pft. Another $65. |
| [08:40:10] | dorel__: | Anduin: still nothing. an mp3 player is a real source :) i tried a different cable last night also :( |
| [08:40:31] | Dagmar: | CpuID2: Keep the ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 in mind |
| [08:40:42] | Dagmar: | The upgradabiliity on it is just sickening |
| [08:40:44] | Anduin: | dorel__: cable as in the f-type, real tuner input. |
| [08:40:46] | CpuID2: | hehe |
| [08:40:47] | mchou: | Dagmar: am2 daughtercards?? where? |
| [08:41:02] | dorel__: | Anduin: ahh you mean the rf/bnc? |
| [08:41:07] | dorel__: | Anduin: i havent tried that |
| [08:42:10] | CpuID2: | im still deciding now what i want first, a nice hdd array or that mediapc frontend :) |
| [08:42:17] | CpuID2: | im steering towards hdds |
| [08:42:22] | CpuID2: | looking at going iscsi possibly |
| [08:42:37] | CpuID2: | something that supports sata2 disks |
| [08:42:43] | Dagmar: | mchou: Not sure. I'm waiting for them to fully hit the market. Reviewers seem to have no problems getting their hands on them tho |
| [08:42:50] | CpuID2: | found one nice option so far, just awaiting an email back for a price |
| [08:43:08] | CpuID2: | xscale based iscsi backend/frontend that supports up to 12 sata2 disks |
| [08:43:10] | CpuID2: | with 2 gigE ports |
| [08:43:25] | CpuID2: | and single or dual raid HBAs :) |
| [08:43:26] | Dagmar: | mchou: Your board basically has to have a port specifically for it or no dice |
| [08:43:30] | Anduin: | dorel__: You could also switch inputs (right now it says s-video but what you describe earlier wasn't (though usually it would just be a color problem) |
| [08:43:49] | mchou: | CpuID2: umm, why would you need so much storage? |
| [08:44:14] | Dagmar: | I may just be searching badly |
| [08:44:58] | mchou: | Dagmar: I dont even think AM2 daughtercards even make sense |
| [08:45:14] | Dagmar: | mchou: They do if you don't feel like replacing the rest of your machine. |
| [08:45:17] | mchou: | Dagmar: you "upgrade" DDR to DDR2? |
| [08:45:33] | CpuID2: | mchou, well the fact mythtv uses like 3–4gb/hr just in background livetv recording :) |
| [08:45:50] | CpuID2: | thats not the main reason though :P |
| [08:45:57] | CpuID2: | i refuse to delete good content hehe |
| [08:46:03] | CpuID2: | just add more storage for it :) |
| [08:46:20] | CpuID2: | and yea i dont wanna go like 500 or 750gb disks, too pricey, i wanna go like 300–320gb disks |
| [08:46:27] | CpuID2: | maybe 6–8 of them to start |
| [08:46:35] | Dagmar: | Nope. You just replace it |
| [08:46:49] | mchou: | CpuID2: how many ppl use PVR in your family? |
| [08:47:08] | mchou: | Dagmar: replace what? the memory?? |
| [08:47:10] | dorel__: | Anduin: you know what, ill try changing video inputs and see if it helps |
| [08:47:17] | Dagmar: | I'm not really expecting to spend more than $50 on the daughter card |
| [08:47:45] | Dagmar: | mchou: Yes, the memory. You can so that since on the hardware in question the memory controller is on the CPU. |
| [08:47:46] | mchou: | Dagmar: if you gonna replace the memory (and CPU) you might as well get a whole new mobo |
| [08:47:49] | CpuID2: | mchou, well ive got a desktop, 2 laptops and the tv downstairs |
| [08:47:59] | CpuID2: | id expect 2 would get used most of the time |
| [08:47:59] | Dagmar: | s/so/do/; |
| [08:48:04] | CpuID2: | maybe 3 at very most at once |
| [08:48:25] | CpuID2: | its not just that though |
| [08:48:29] | ** CpuID2 downloads a lotta stuff too ** | |
| [08:48:31] | CpuID2: | enough said :) |
| [08:48:35] | ** CpuID2 wont get into detail there lol ** | |
| [08:48:51] | CpuID2: | lets just say the MPAA wouldnt be a fan of my content :) |
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| [08:49:03] | Dagmar: | I'm not going to spend more money than I have to, and if it means I don't have to completely tear my machine apart to upgrade it, even better. |
| [08:49:17] | mchou: | Dagmar: you're weird |
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| [08:49:41] | Dagmar: | No, I've just taken too many machines completely apart to be amused by the idea of changing out a motherboard anymore. |
| [08:49:51] | CpuID2: | hehe |
| [08:49:51] | Dagmar: | It loses it's novelty after the 300th or 400th time |
| [08:49:56] | CpuID2: | i dont mind changing out parts |
| [08:50:05] | CpuID2: | as long as things work properly, especially things like bios' :) |
| [08:50:23] | Dagmar: | If I can do the change in under 15 minutes and be runnign again, that's worth quite a bit to me actually. |
| [08:51:12] | CpuID2: | hehe |
| [08:51:22] | mchou: | Dagmar: like I said, you're weird |
| [08:51:29] | ** CpuID2 has a pet hate for dodgy bios' nowadays ** | |
| [08:51:39] | CpuID2: | ive come across too many weird b0rky things |
| [08:51:48] | mchou: | Dagmar: you want no down time, get two machines and cluster them togther |
| [08:51:58] | Dagmar: | It's not downtime that I dislike. |
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| [08:52:15] | Dagmar: | It's having to take the machine apart and put it all back together again that annoys the hell out of me. |
| [08:52:25] | mchou: | lol |
| [08:52:28] | Dagmar: | I'm telling you after doing it a few hundred times it's just dull and annoying. |
| [08:52:41] | mchou: | Dagmar: yeah, whatever |
| [08:53:17] | Dagmar: | If I'm getting another motherboard, I buy a new case for it. No joke. |
| [08:53:32] | mchou: | Dagmar: so? that's what most ppl do |
| [08:53:55] | mchou: | cases are cheap |
| [08:54:00] | Dagmar: | Time isn't. |
| [08:54:10] | dorel__: | Anduin: ok umm, changing the inputs doesnt work |
| [08:54:13] | CpuID2: | hehe |
| [08:54:16] | dorel__: | the video inputs that is |
| [08:54:22] | CpuID2: | i tend to buy a new case with a new mobo a lot of the time |
| [08:54:25] | CpuID2: | but i dont upgrade often :) |
| [08:54:39] | CpuID2: | maybe twice a year or something in total across all my boxen |
| [08:54:46] | CpuID2: | (4 or so atm at home) |
| [08:55:06] | mchou: | Dagmar: CpuID2 has the right idea...... |
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| [08:55:28] | Dagmar: | I had the movers who (finally) picked up my stuff in storage the other day actually call to tell me that one of my boxes was damaged. After they told me which one they were very relieved to find out I didn't care |
| [08:55:34] | mchou: | Dagmar: there is no reason to upgrade if everything is working |
| [08:55:37] | Dagmar: | Most people don't have 19 working PCs |
| [08:56:25] | mchou: | Dagmar: if you need 19 PCs you have other issues |
| [08:56:29] | Dagmar: | I am hoping they will quietly do what I asked with that one, and just dump it in the trash |
| [08:56:40] | Dagmar: | I've been at this since the late 80's. |
| [08:56:52] | mchou: | Dagmar: lol |
| [08:56:55] | ooPo: | is there anything I can do to improve the responsiveness of the remote on thie pvr-150? |
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| [08:57:37] | Anduin: | dorel__: Don't know what to tell you, I'd try the cable input, I'm mostly sure the internal sound selection stuff is all sorted out these days (so if the input is right, volume is set, etc) things should work. |
| [08:57:55] | Dagmar: | ooPo: You mean how long it takes to change channels? |
| [08:58:08] | ooPo: | no, I mean how long I have to press buttons to move around the menu |
| [08:58:25] | ooPo: | its like the polling is missing button presses, and sometimes I have to --reset-ir |
| [08:58:41] | Dagmar: | Wihtout knowing your setup, we can only guess. If you're using a serial port, make sure nothing else has decided to "share" that IRQ |
| [08:58:47] | Dagmar: | ...or change the batteries |
| [08:59:05] | ooPo: | its the ir device plugged into the pvr150 itself, and the batteries were fresh as of a few hours ago |
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| [08:59:19] | ooPo: | lirc-0.8.0 freshly compiled |
| [08:59:25] | Dagmar: | Well, check the lirc docs |
| [08:59:36] | Dagmar: | IRQ sharing can still be cooking your goose. |
| [08:59:56] | mchou: | Dagmar: lol |
| [09:00:05] | Dagmar: | USe the keyboard a bit to be sure the machine itself just isn't slow |
| [09:00:30] | ooPo: | Using the keyboard is quite nice... |
| [09:00:36] | Dagmar: | mchou: I've had so many screwy issues come from devices that think they can share PCI IRQs it's not even funny. |
| [09:00:36] | mchou: | Dagmar: everyone know that's on the SMBus/I2C |
| [09:00:58] | mchou: | Dagmar: doesnt make your "diagnosis" correct |
| [09:01:04] | ooPo: | Its a new 3500+ with a gig of ram and a 7600GS... |
| [09:01:11] | mchou: | Dagmar: especially for this issue |
| [09:01:17] | Dagmar: | Oh well. |
| [09:01:25] | Dagmar: | I never claimed to be right all the itme. Just most of the time. |
| [09:01:32] | CpuID2: | id be happy to have 19 working pcs :) |
| [09:01:38] | CpuID2: | would give me a lot of testing and dev hw :) |
| [09:02:23] | Dagmar: | CpuID2: That's why I still have the ones I do, but it started to be a pain in the ass. Statistical failure rates start to mean something is *always* broken or breaking if you shuffle components around instead of buying new stuff. |
| [09:02:39] | CpuID2: | hehe |
| [09:02:44] | CpuID2: | yep |
| [09:02:48] | CpuID2: | sounds about right |
| [09:02:56] | CpuID2: | this p3 will become another dev box once i replace it as a desktop in future |
| [09:02:57] | Dagmar: | I never had to turn on the HVAC in the winter tho |
| [09:03:34] | CpuID2: | once i go an opteron desktop though i probly wont upgrade this desktop for a while though |
| [09:03:41] | CpuID2: | oh i bet :) |
| [09:05:05] | Dagmar: | Ah, I have been searching the wrong terms. That daughter card is a whopping $33. |
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| [09:08:54] | dorel__: | does anyone use the stereo line in with the pvr 150 card? |
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| [09:12:47] | Dagmar: | dorel__: If it's anything like the 500, it's assumed that's going to be the input for the line or s-video inputs |
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| [09:16:04] | dorel__: | Dagmar: right. i tried changing the video inputs with the 'c' key on the keyboard, but even when toggling through them i dont hear any sound. |
| [09:19:52] | Dagmar: | Drat. This is the second time that's been asked about this evening. That makes it interesting enough to look at but I haven't installed @#%$@ cygwin on this box yet |
| [09:24:57] | Dagmar: | Bleh. Ther'es at least 20 new options in the kernel from 2.6.16 to 2.6.17.4. Yuck |
| [09:25:28] | dorel__: | ok i think i found the problem |
| [09:26:05] | dorel__: | any ideas how to use ivtvctl to set audio mute on/off and the audio input source from tuner to svideo/composite? |
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| [09:31:25] | CpuID2: | hehe |
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| [09:36:18] | Dagmar: | Wow. This is reminding me of the kind of changes that used to happen with 2.5.x |
| [09:38:29] | Dagmar: | Yep. Up to and including the "I'm not entirely convinced this is going to work" feeling. |
| [09:43:14] | Dagmar: | Now I see the reason for the sense of nervousness I was detecting from the ivtv changes with >2.6.16 |
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| [11:30:00] | Dagmar: | Interesting. Not all of the PVR-500MCEs get shipped with the second cable that allows you to plug in the second s-video and composite connectors. |
| [11:31:19] | Juski: | dorel__: the ivtvctl command prints out its own help feature if you dont pass parameters to it |
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| [11:33:30] | Dagmar: | Heya Juski |
| [11:34:07] | dorel__: | Juski: what do you mean? |
| [11:34:28] | dorel__: | Juski: oh your replying about my question how to unmute :P |
| [11:34:55] | dorel__: | Juski: thanks, but im still having problems even after trying to unmute it, i describe it here: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3285 |
| [11:35:58] | Dagmar: | I've been poking at the thing and I'm not actually seeing any way to decouple the audio line input, or even really select it |
| [11:36:12] | Dagmar: | I might be overlooking it tho |
| [11:37:03] | Dagmar: | Oh wait, this is what I get for doing this by trying to decipher the C |
| [11:37:35] | Dagmar: | Dash lowercase q option. *sigh* |
| [11:38:12] | Juski: | hey Dagmar |
| [11:38:30] | Juski: | dorel__: looks like something for the ivtv mailing list, that one |
| [11:38:36] | Dagmar: | Does ivtvctl -s give you a ludicrous number of options? |
| [11:39:04] | Dagmar: | Either I'm misinterpreting something or it thinks this card is a much more expensive model that can decipher broadasts all over the world |
| [11:40:27] | Juski: | dorel__: the crosspoint switch on the card should switch audio inputs when you select its corresponding video input... |
| [11:41:05] | Dagmar: | Ah nevermind, I was misinterpreting something there |
| [11:41:15] | Juski: | Dagmar: all the video decoders on the pvr cards can do worldwide video standards on the composite/svideo inputs.. it's just a matter of which standard the tuner on board is ;-) |
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| [11:41:33] | dorel__: | Juski: what is the crosspoint switch? |
| [11:42:08] | Dagmar: | The thingie that changes what input it's using |
| [11:42:23] | Dagmar: | ivtvctl -P -Q should make it tell you what it's looking at and listening to currently. |
| [11:42:43] | Juski: | dorel__: the crosspoint switch is used to route signals on the card. the driver changes the settings to assign audio / video signals |
| [11:43:01] | Dagmar: | I like my explanation better. |
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| [11:46:22] | Juski: | heh |
| [11:46:24] | Dagmar: | Example of such poking and prodding at a PVR-500: http://pastebin.ca/83151 |
| [11:46:56] | Dagmar: | I do b'lieve that even kind of illustrates where the bit for "I gots a radio tuner" is ata |
| [11:50:03] | dorel__: | its killing me why i cant unmute the audio |
| [11:50:19] | dorel__: | no matter what i do im ending with "Audio muted: yes" or "Mute=1" |
| [11:50:59] | Juski: | dorel__: have you tried setting the video input to svideo? the audio inputs should follow the video inputs |
| [11:51:20] | Dagmar: | Not to be rude, but have you tried `ivtvctl -y mute=0`? |
| [11:51:33] | dorel__: | Juski: yeah. on Watch TV i pressed the 'c' key to change inputs, but still no go. |
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| [11:52:04] | dorel__: | Dagmar: yep. |
| [11:52:18] | Dagmar: | That would indicate a hardware problem is my guess |
| [11:52:25] | Juski: | dorel__: does the tuner audio work? |
| [11:52:27] | Dagmar: | It works fine for me with 2.6.17.4 and 0.7.0 |
| [11:52:45] | Dagmar: | ...or the driver is *very* messed up |
| [11:52:50] | dorel__: | i've also tried: ivtvctl --set-ctrl=mute=0 |
| [11:52:56] | Juski: | the audio firmware might not be loaded |
| [11:53:19] | dorel__: | i haven't tried the tuner cause i dont have any tuner devices. |
| [11:53:28] | dorel__: | Juski: how can i check if the audio firmware is loaded or not |
| [11:53:38] | Dagmar: | How do you not have tuner devices? |
| [11:53:40] | Dagmar: | What card is this? |
| [11:53:59] | Dagmar: | You check the syslog to see what it said it loaded |
| [11:54:16] | dorel__: | PVR 150, im on 2.6.16-1–686 with ivtvctl version 0.4.4 (tagged release) |
| [11:54:42] | Juski: | 2.6.16 on itvtv 0.4? that'll be why |
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| [11:55:03] | dorel__: | the only it said loaded on is this "loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)" |
| [11:55:39] | dorel__: | although i have the audio firmware "v4l-cx25840.fw" in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware |
| [11:55:43] | dorel__: | btw im on debian. |
| [11:55:44] | Juski: | for kernel > 2.6.15 you need ivtv 0.6.x |
| [11:55:58] | dorel__: | Juski: do you think thats the problem? |
| [11:56:03] | Juski: | most definitely |
| [11:56:22] | dorel__: | i see. |
| [11:56:32] | ooPo: | what's the difference between the ivtv versions for each kernel? they seem to come out of the same svn trunk... |
| [11:57:02] | Juski: | newer ones use kernel modules for everything except the ivtv module |
| [11:57:27] | dorel__: | Juski: ok then. do you suggest i compile the 0.6.x from source over the current one or use apt-get? i see that i have ivtv0.6-source and ivtv0.6-utils on my repositories? |
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| [11:57:36] | Dagmar: | dorel__: Jul 9 06:34:49 lanshark kernel: tveeprom 2–0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37) |
| [11:57:36] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:49 lanshark kernel: tveeprom 2–0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30) |
| [11:57:36] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:49 lanshark kernel: tveeprom 2–0050: has radio, has no IR remote |
| [11:57:36] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:49 lanshark kernel: ivtv1: This is the second unit of a PVR500 |
| [11:57:36] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:49 lanshark kernel: ivtv1: Correcting tveeprom data: no radio present on second unit |
| [11:57:37] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:50 lanshark kernel: ivtv1: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes) |
| [11:57:39] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:50 lanshark kernel: ivtv1: Encoder revision: 0x02050032 |
| [11:57:41] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:50 lanshark kernel: ivtv1: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total) |
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| [11:57:44] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:50 lanshark kernel: ivtv1: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total) |
| [11:57:47] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:50 lanshark kernel: ivtv1: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total) |
| [11:57:50] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:51 lanshark kernel: ivtv1: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total) |
| [11:57:53] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:51 lanshark kernel: tuner 2–0061: type set to 57 (Philips FQ1236A MK4) |
| [11:57:55] | Dagmar: | Jul 9 06:34:51 lanshark kernel: ivtv1: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2), card #1 |
| [11:58:00] | Dagmar: | oh just shoot me |
| [11:58:01] | Dagmar: | OKay, well... |
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| [11:58:16] | laga: | http://www.pastebin.com |
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| [11:58:52] | dorel__: | Dagmar: |
| [11:58:56] | dorel__: | thanks |
| [11:59:02] | Dagmar: | D*mn I hate that. I was actually trying to paste the bloody *pastebin* URL |
| [11:59:04] | dorel__: | but i see you have no loaded section for the audio firmware either |
| [11:59:08] | Dagmar: | http://pastebin.ca/83158 |
| [11:59:09] | dorel__: | lol |
| [11:59:10] | Dagmar: | I *do* |
| [11:59:26] | dorel__: | mythtv kernel: tveeprom 0–0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37) |
| [11:59:35] | Dagmar: | Look at line 25, 27, and then 43 & 54 |
| [11:59:49] | Dagmar: | TWO firmware files should be loading. |
| [11:59:55] | dorel__: | ahh you doo |
| [11:59:59] | Dagmar: | (I've two tuners, which is why the second two lines) |
| [12:00:00] | dorel__: | yeah i saw that |
| [12:00:02] | dorel__: | ok damn it |
| [12:00:10] | dorel__: | ill try upgrading to the 0.6.x from apt-get |
| [12:00:15] | dorel__: | i hope i just dont break stuff |
| [12:00:15] | Dagmar: | Juski is perfectly right tho. With that kernel you have to use the 0.6.x driver |
| [12:00:27] | Dagmar: | Ah you can be brave about it and go for 2.6.17.4 and 0.7.0. ;) |
| [12:01:01] | dorel__: | no no |
| [12:01:03] | dorel__: | :) |
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| [12:01:10] | dorel__: | lets try 0.6 from apt first :P |
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| [12:08:37] | dorel__: | a general question of terminology |
| [12:08:56] | dorel__: | that yellow input on the pvr 150, thats an rca and it's second name is Svideo or Componenet? |
| [12:08:59] | dorel__: | *component |
| [12:09:07] | laga: | it's component |
| [12:09:09] | Juski: | composite |
| [12:09:33] | dorel__: | thanks |
| [12:09:38] | dorel__: | component and composite being the same thing right? |
| [12:09:42] | Dagmar: | Yeah |
| [12:09:43] | Juski: | no |
| [12:09:47] | Juski: | |
| [12:09:52] | Dagmar: | S-video is the thing that looks like a deformed mouse |
| [12:10:04] | dorel__: | ahh ok |
| [12:10:08] | Juski: | like a mouse with an ear growing on its back? |
| [12:10:15] | dorel__: | haha |
| [12:10:38] | laga: | dammit, it's composite, right :/ |
| [12:10:49] | dorel__: | i know this is out of nowhere but just to state out, when i'm on Svideo0 i actually see the RCA/Component (yellow plug) video input |
| [12:11:30] | Dagmar: | But you were using the wrong driver |
| [12:11:42] | Dagmar: | ...so god only knows what else it's been doing wrong. |
| [12:11:51] | Juski: | so the register definitions are prolly different |
| [12:11:54] | dorel__: | i see. |
| [12:12:07] | Dagmar: | It might be that it's not even managing to change registers |
| [12:12:09] | dorel__: | ok well, im gonna go upgrade and hope for the best |
| [12:12:40] | Juski: | I'm gonna go make a bacon sandwitch in a minute |
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| [12:19:26] | Dagmar: | Mmmm... bacon. |
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| [12:32:37] | Kelerion: | morning all |
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| [12:38:21] | laga: | morning Kelerion |
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| [13:07:16] | Juski: | yes it _is_ a good morning isn't it? ;-) |
| [13:08:30] | Kelerion: | oh dear.. Juski's all chearful... everyone hide |
| [13:08:34] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [13:08:57] | dev: | hah |
| [13:09:13] | Juski: | heh. you missed me on friday night then. oh boy |
| [13:11:23] | Kelerion: | am still in recovery from last night... birthday yesterday... oh man |
| [13:11:45] | Juski: | how many candles? |
| [13:11:56] | Kelerion: | 32 |
| [13:12:21] | Juski: | welcome to the start of the worst hangovers of your life ;-) |
| [13:12:49] | Kelerion: | oh thanks... thats what I needed to hear.. lol |
| [13:13:00] | dev: | hah |
| [13:13:01] | GreyFoxx: | sounds like fun |
| [13:13:08] | ** GreyFoxx turns 32 1 week from today ** | |
| [13:13:14] | dev: | old men :D |
| [13:13:26] | GreyFoxx: | I prefer the title, Dirty Old Man |
| [13:14:08] | Kelerion: | you have a kid though right? dirty old man can't apply... it's redundant.. lol |
| [13:14:39] | GreyFoxx: | I do, and I've been adirty old man for many years before she came along :) |
| [13:14:47] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [13:15:01] | ** GreyFoxx will bethe old fart in the nursing home grabbing the nurses butts and asking for sponge baths ** | |
| [13:15:02] | dev: | rut roh, dirty old man + daughter == naughtytime |
| [13:15:10] | GreyFoxx: | dev: That's just sick |
| [13:15:16] | dev: | yeah :( |
| [13:15:19] | dev: | so plz dont |
| [13:15:21] | GreyFoxx: | It only applies when it's someone ELSES daughter :) |
| [13:15:26] | dev: | hehe |
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| [13:15:48] | Kelerion: | GreyFoxx: don't forget getting a hardon when they're changing your catheter.. lol |
| [13:16:02] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [13:17:18] | GreyFoxx: | Hopefully the plumbing willstill be in working order by then ;) |
| [13:17:35] | dev: | few leaks and a few clogs by then prolly ;P |
| [13:17:55] | Kelerion: | my wife works in and old people's home.. damn they're horny old shits in there.. lol |
| [13:19:23] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, I have an aunt who works at one here. She said it's worse than teenagers |
| [13:19:34] | GreyFoxx: | they are constantly walking in on them all over the place |
| [13:19:43] | GreyFoxx: | "Thank you Viagra" |
| [13:21:34] | Kelerion: | the woman are just as bad... theres one there that goes to this fella.. gives him cigs and money to play with her tits... my wife is always walking in on them.. lol |
| [13:21:47] | Kelerion: | or does he pay her... can't remember now.. lol |
| [13:22:06] | GreyFoxx: | We all need love, allages :) |
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| [13:24:27] | dev: | yeesh mental imagery |
| [13:24:54] | Kelerion: | it's ok dev.. you'll be the same when you get older :P |
| [13:27:09] | dorel__: | ok i re-installed ivtv0.6.3 instad of the old ivtv0.4.4 though now i cant go into the watch tv mode |
| [13:27:18] | dorel__: | ill try reconfiguring the card |
| [13:27:20] | dev: | hehe yeah im sure |
| [13:27:20] | Kelerion: | am supposed to be fixing up my myth frontend today... but I can't be bothered... I want to play with some 3d stuff.. lol |
| [13:27:34] | dev: | but hopefully before i start pissing/shitting my pants i'll be offed one way or another |
| [13:33:29] | dorel__: | ok moved to ivtv0.6.3 – the sound works fine now :P |
| [13:35:41] | ** Kelerion wonders why there isn't any lug type communities in SecondLife ** | |
| [13:35:45] | Juski: | dorel__: the tuner input config changes between ivtv versions |
| [13:36:46] | dorel__: | Juski: what does it mean to me? |
| [13:37:20] | Juski: | dorel__: t means whatever video source you use needs to be bound to a different input |
| [13:38:41] | dorel__: | ahm |
| [13:38:44] | dorel__: | ok |
| [13:41:05] | Juski: | Kelerion: maybe all the linux users spend a lot of time in #reallife ;-) |
| [13:41:10] | Juski: | .. or IRC |
| [13:41:13] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [13:41:37] | dorel__: | did it ever happen to anyone that the volume controls on the remote move the movie forward/backword when watching a movie in mplayer? |
| [13:41:59] | Juski: | dorel__: yeah when the .lircrc file is set up wrongly |
| [13:42:34] | dorel__: | im sure it's setup just fine because my fix to it is 'pkill lircd' && 'lircd' |
| [13:42:51] | dorel__: | then i run mythfrontend again and its just fine |
| [13:42:58] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [13:43:09] | Juski: | I'm pretty sure it's not set up right |
| [13:43:17] | dorel__: | ok, hold up ill paste it |
| [13:43:21] | dorel__: | im pretty sure its ok but ill give it a shot |
| [13:43:22] | Kelerion: | dodgy batteries? |
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| [13:48:14] | dorel__: | Juski: my .lircrc: http://pastebin.ca/83214 |
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| [13:49:23] | dorel__: | Juski: lircd.conf is at http://pastebin.ca/83217 |
| [13:49:30] | test34: | in kernel 2.6.17 it says that Philips SAA7113/4/5 video decoders is OBSOLETED.. what else should I enable to have ivtv working ? |
| [13:50:14] | Juski: | dorel__: mythtv uses Volume-DOWN as the button, mplayer uses button = VOL- |
| [13:53:00] | dorel__: | Juski: i dont see the problem. |
| [13:53:20] | dorel__: | begin , prog = mplayer , button = VOL- , repeat = 3 , config = volume -5 , end |
| [13:53:21] | dorel__: | like you said. |
| [13:53:41] | Juski: | yeah but mythtv uses Volume-DOWN not VOL- |
| [13:54:04] | Juski: | who the hell posts these shitty lircrc files on the net? |
| [13:54:12] | dorel__: | hehe |
| [13:54:30] | dorel__: | forgive my ignorance but im not getting you. |
| [13:54:44] | dorel__: | who cares what mythtv uses, im watching the video with mplayer :) |
| [13:54:59] | Juski: | does the vol control in mythtv work? |
| [13:55:16] | Juski: | my point is that in lircd the button names are defined |
| [13:55:27] | dorel__: | yeah i've seen it |
| [13:55:40] | Juski: | the volume buttons will either be called VOL- or Volume-DOWN. one of them is wrong |
| [13:55:43] | dorel__: | and on my lircd i've defined Vol- not Volume-DOWN |
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| [14:01:14] | dorel__: | ok i changed in lircd the button to be Volume-Down and Volume-Up and set it also for mplayer on .lircrc |
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| [14:09:24] | sardywork: | lo |
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| [14:10:10] | sloncho: | hi all. not exactly a mythtv question, but involves transcoding HDTV TS to DVD |
| [14:10:54] | sardywork: | all, just installed mythdora. the audio playback is "tinny" any ideas ? |
| [14:11:33] | sloncho: | a friend of mine has grabbed trough firewire the TS stream from his (commersial/cable) DVR, and asked me to prepare a dvd out of it. so far I converted the TS to PS using projectx |
| [14:12:08] | sloncho: | now I'm trying to press it further using avidemux2, but it destroys the audio synchronization |
| [14:12:41] | Juski: | just convert the ps to a vob |
| [14:12:57] | Juski: | dvd streams are mpeg2 ps anyway |
| [14:13:16] | Juski: | you don't need to convert them to es |
| [14:13:36] | sloncho: | Juski, it is 1080i HDTV (i.e. 1920x1088 res), while for dvd I need 720x476 |
| [14:13:42] | sloncho: | 720x486 |
| [14:13:43] | Juski: | ah |
| [14:13:58] | Juski: | so just requant the ps |
| [14:14:21] | sloncho: | Juski – tcrequant? |
| [14:14:27] | sloncho: | qhat? |
| [14:14:29] | Juski: | think so |
| [14:14:31] | sloncho: | what? |
| [14:14:44] | Juski: | doom9.org will probably cover this anyway |
| [14:15:04] | sloncho: | tcrequant does not resize :( |
| [14:15:11] | Juski: | project x can resize streams I think |
| [14:15:33] | sloncho: | hmmm, if it can ... i spend so much time. I'll check, thanks for the pointer |
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| [14:24:43] | Juski: | dum de dumm.. take all the new paint off.. |
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| [14:30:00] | sardywork: | anyone ? |
| [14:30:23] | sloncho: | Juski, naaa, projectx does not resize :( |
| [14:31:31] | dorel__: | Juski: seems to work fine now with the Volume-Up/Down directives, thanks. |
| [14:31:32] | Juski: | sardywork: which tuner? |
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| [14:42:36] | Juski: | heh. it's always funny how the most desperate people never seem to hang on quite long enough for a reply :-P |
| [14:43:04] | sardywork: | Juski: sorry was reading up on the web |
| [14:43:16] | sardywork: | managed to fix it with ivtvctl -q1 |
| [14:43:27] | Juski: | goodo :-) |
| [14:43:38] | Juski: | put that in a bootup script |
| [14:44:00] | laga: | it's possible that mythtv will reset those settings on channel change. |
| [14:44:05] | sardywork: | any ideas on the best de-interlace |
| [14:44:17] | sardywork: | bob is recommended PVR-150MCE card |
| [14:44:44] | Juski: | bob works best if you use xvmc |
| [14:44:44] | laga: | parse error |
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| [14:44:59] | somedude_: | Any one here use a software DVB at all? |
| [14:45:14] | Juski: | software DVB? wtf? |
| [14:45:22] | laga: | what's a "software DVB"? |
| [14:45:23] | somedude_: | Juski: aka BUDGET CARDS |
| [14:45:28] | laga: | ah. |
| [14:45:30] | laga: | phew. |
| [14:45:30] | somedude_: | laga: as opposed to HARDWARE |
| [14:45:34] | Juski: | yeh I use 3 |
| [14:45:40] | sardywork: | Juski: how do i get the system to use xvmc. or is it a case of just picking it from preferref mpeg2 dec ? |
| [14:45:42] | Juski: | fully featured cards are no use for mythtv |
| [14:45:43] | laga: | somedude_: YEAH I UNDERSTAND NOW, THANKS |
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| [14:45:53] | somedude_: | Juski: im having a bit of trouble with mine |
| [14:45:53] | Juski: | sardywork: the latter |
| [14:46:00] | sardywork: | Juski: thanks |
| [14:46:15] | somedude_: | anyway i compiled a new kernel w/ the drivers, and they seem to install but i cant seem to figure out how to use the commands |
| [14:46:38] | Juski: | somedude_: which commands? from dvb-utils? |
| [14:46:40] | sardywork: | now to get mythdora to recognise my 32" tv |
| [14:47:03] | somedude_: | Juski: well at this point im really lost i get the drivers installed using |
| [14:47:04] | somedude_: | [root@mythsettop ~]# modprobe cx8800 cx88xx cx88-dvb |
| [14:47:14] | sardywork: | currently fed into "pc input" via standard monitor cable :-( |
| [14:47:14] | somedude_: | but now i have really no idea what to do next, everythign itry does not seem to work |
| [14:47:27] | Juski: | somedude_: well, after doing the modprobe, look at the output of dmesg |
| [14:47:48] | somedude_: | Juski: everythign looks good.. pasting now.. |
| [14:47:48] | Juski: | then grab the linux dvbutils from www.linuxtv.org or your local repository |
| [14:48:11] | somedude_: | Juski: got that already |
| [14:48:26] | Juski: | see the dvb section in the mythtv wiki |
| [14:48:37] | Juski: | that'll give you some clues ;-) |
| [14:48:44] | somedude_: | Juski: dont u need to use liek dvbtune or something |
| [14:48:50] | Juski: | no |
| [14:48:58] | somedude_: | Juski: i wanted to make sure i can get a signal before loosing my head trying to figure out why it doesnt work with myth |
| [14:49:08] | Juski: | tzap, szap or czap depending on your dvb card type |
| [14:49:19] | somedude_: | Juski: but i dont have the channel list file |
| [14:49:21] | Juski: | t == terrestrial, s=sat, c=cable |
| [14:49:40] | Juski: | somedude_: why? there are quite a few of them |
| [14:49:53] | somedude_: | Juski: where? |
| [14:49:58] | Juski: | ah you might need to use _scan_ first |
| [14:50:12] | somedude_: | scan? |
| [14:50:21] | Juski: | yes the dvbutil called scan |
| [14:50:34] | somedude_: | oooo |
| [14:50:38] | Juski: | or is it dvb-apps? can never remember |
| [14:50:39] | somedude_: | lol yeh right i tried that to.. |
| [14:50:58] | somedude_: | its in dvb-apps |
| [14:51:13] | somedude_: | called dvbscan |
| [14:51:14] | Juski: | you can get it to work without an initial tuning file I think |
| [14:51:48] | somedude_: | Juski: i have no idea how to do that though, i tried and trie |
| [14:52:00] | Juski: | right. where in the world are you? |
| [14:52:02] | somedude_: | http://pastebin.ca/83233 |
| [14:52:09] | somedude_: | can you check to see if that dmesg is ok? |
| [14:52:22] | Juski: | somedude_: looks ok |
| [14:52:33] | somedude_: | so TV tuner 4 at 0x1fe, Radio tuner -1 at 0x1fe |
| [14:52:35] | somedude_: | thats ok |
| [14:52:38] | somedude_: | -1 |
| [14:53:12] | somedude_: | Juski u use t s or c? |
| [14:53:18] | Juski: | t |
| [14:53:28] | Juski: | they're all very much alike though |
| [14:53:47] | somedude_: | yeh, but you need an inital tunnig file |
| [14:53:53] | somedude_: | im using s |
| [14:54:00] | Juski: | yeh so where are you? and what satellite? |
| [14:54:03] | somedude_: | (ovoisuly) but i am not sure about the tuning file |
| [14:54:19] | somedude_: | 91 |
| [14:54:35] | Juski: | 91? wtf is that supposed to mean? |
| [14:54:41] | somedude_: | Juski: can i msg u |
| [14:54:45] | Juski: | no |
| [14:54:48] | Juski: | keep it in channel |
| [14:54:56] | somedude_: | nimiq1/4i |
| [14:55:08] | somedude_: | formaly known as nimiq 1/3 |
| [14:55:34] | somedude_: | http://www.lyngsat.com/nimiq1.html |
| [14:56:53] | somedude_: | ? |
| [14:57:39] | Juski: | you can scan without an initial tuning file, I'm sure |
| [14:57:47] | Juski: | type scan at the command prompt |
| [14:57:54] | Juski: | it'll take a long time though |
| [14:58:26] | somedude_: | scandvb just dumps out help |
| [14:59:03] | Juski: | yeh it will do |
| [14:59:23] | somedude_: | scandvb -v -p -l 11250000,11250000,0 -lDBS |
| [14:59:41] | somedude_: | scan doesn't do frequency scans, hence it needs initial |
| [14:59:41] | somedude_: | tuning data for at least one transponder/channel. |
| [15:00:35] | GreyFoxx: | You know there are no FTA channels on that sat right ?:) |
| [15:00:55] | GreyFoxx: | Unless they have added something since last I looked at it :) |
| [15:01:16] | somedude_: | GreyFoxx: but there ARE radio channels :) |
| [15:01:42] | somedude_: | at /proc/cpuinfo |
| [15:01:42] | somedude_: | processor : 0 |
| [15:01:42] | somedude_: | vendor_id : AuthenticAMD |
| [15:01:46] | GreyFoxx: | True, but does myth support dvb radio only channels? |
| [15:01:46] | somedude_: | couldnt even DO video if i wanted to |
| [15:01:49] | GreyFoxx: | If it does, cool |
| [15:02:01] | somedude_: | GreyFoxx: beets me.... i assume its stil mpeg just no video |
| [15:02:17] | GreyFoxx: | It's, I just don't know how myth willreact without any video |
| [15:02:19] | somedude_: | GreyFoxx: ill find out.. for now i just want to see if this card works.. its more for play then practical anyway |
| [15:02:22] | GreyFoxx: | but it might well work |
| [15:02:29] | Juski: | sounds like a lot of effort to go to just for radio |
| [15:02:38] | Juski: | dvb radio does work in mythtv svn-head |
| [15:02:41] | somedude_: | Juski: yes but i learn how to configre a dvb :) |
| [15:02:42] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [15:02:49] | Juski: | not in 0.19 though |
| [15:02:56] | ** GreyFoxx is starting to ponder working on a carpc ** | |
| [15:03:21] | ** somedude_ wonders if there will be linux-powered-satalite-radio soon that wil replace sirus ! ** | |
| [15:03:51] | somedude_: | GreyFoxx: can you imagine.. hacked Linksys router with a USB dvb!!!! |
| [15:04:11] | somedude_: | GreyFoxx: wonder if the 200mhz chip can handle all that mpeg :-P |
| [15:04:18] | Juski: | probably can |
| [15:04:32] | somedude_: | ahha i dont think so but anyway.. yeh scandvb wont tune w/o an initial |
| [15:05:01] | Juski: | somedude_: all those cable & sat boxes with like 200MHz MIPS ? |
| [15:05:16] | somedude_: | Juski: true, but the also have an onboard mpeg! |
| [15:05:31] | somedude_: | Juski: i highy dought a linksys has an onboard mpeg decoder chip :-D |
| [15:05:34] | Juski: | somedude_: yeah but you don't need very much cpu to shove streams around |
| [15:05:52] | Juski: | take the mpeg & slap it into dvbstream |
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| [15:06:09] | somedude_: | Juski: yes but dvbstream still needs to decode the mpeg stream |
| [15:06:15] | Juski: | no it doesnt |
| [15:06:19] | somedude_: | Juski: and especialy video... its killer |
| [15:06:36] | somedude_: | Juski: my 1.7 celery can barly pull a video.... and it still chops! |
| [15:06:36] | Juski: | bull-shit |
| [15:06:47] | somedude_: | Juski: on a budget card???? oh yeh |
| [15:06:50] | Juski: | recording or streaming.. pushing it around |
| [15:07:04] | fred87: | hi – is it possible to stop mythtv-video plugin from rescanning the video directory every time it's started? |
| [15:07:05] | somedude_: | Juski: but to DECODE it .. |
| [15:07:21] | fred87: | it's not really practical it rescaninng 1.6TB when i want to watch something |
| [15:07:24] | somedude_: | Juski: to take mpeg -> Alanog yes it does |
| [15:07:25] | Juski: | somedude_: who said anything about decoding it? |
| [15:07:25] | GreyFoxx: | somegeek: My 733mhz frontends, and my 650mhzslave backend+frontend card easily playback mpeg2(dvb) recordings :) |
| [15:07:59] | Juski: | somedude_: yes, but imagine using it as a DVB access point :-D |
| [15:08:00] | somedude_: | Juski: wlel if u wanna connect it to create a linksys satalite radio with a dvb card... yeh u need to decode it |
| [15:08:11] | somedude_: | Juski: well thast a differnt story :-D |
| [15:08:17] | somedude_: | Juski: hahah that would be l33t! |
| [15:08:34] | Juski: | you know the xbox can be a dvr don't you? |
| [15:08:40] | somedude_: | WIFI radio! |
| [15:08:47] | somedude_: | Juski: the onld ones.. new ones are WIP |
| [15:08:58] | Juski: | there are sat & cable boxen that stream mpeg over a LAN |
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| [15:09:27] | somedude_: | Juski: i know.... the decoding is the b1tch but other then that its feasable |
| [15:09:37] | somedude_: | Juski: but i still cant get my DVB to scan cause it needs an inital :-S |
| [15:09:39] | GreyFoxx: | decoding is a heck of a lot easier than encoding |
| [15:09:51] | somedude_: | GreyFoxx: but still takes a tone of cpu! |
| [15:09:53] | GreyFoxx: | and there are people on here using 450's and 550's for decoding |
| [15:09:54] | Juski: | somedude_: dvb radio is like 256kbits mpeg1 layer 1 usually |
| [15:10:08] | GreyFoxx: | somegeek: depends on how you define a ton. |
| [15:10:25] | somedude_: | GreyFoxx: well doing video decode on my 1.7 celery was CHOPPY |
| [15:10:37] | GreyFoxx: | somegeek: Then you had configuration problems |
| [15:10:43] | GreyFoxx: | cause it should easily be able to do it |
| [15:10:44] | Juski: | yup |
| [15:10:49] | Juski: | my xbox is smooth |
| [15:10:53] | somedude_: | GreyFoxx: possibly.. but anyway.. back to getting it working on my nix box! |
| [15:10:55] | Juski: | my celery 744 mobile is smooth |
| [15:11:01] | Juski: | my athlon 800 is smooth |
| [15:11:06] | somedude_: | what do i need to do to get this thing to scan |
| [15:11:10] | Juski: | my epia 1ghz is smooth :) |
| [15:11:24] | GreyFoxx: | I have an old350mhz machine sitting downstairs. I should try it :) |
| [15:11:35] | Juski: | somedude_: look at the initial tuning files for other sats |
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| [15:11:44] | Juski: | then look at lyngsat's info & work it out |
| [15:11:50] | Juski: | != rocket science |
| [15:12:03] | somedude_: | Juski: ok when i ran a random existing tuning file i got |
| [15:12:09] | somedude_: | DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 18V, loband (index 1) |
| [15:12:09] | somedude_: | >>> tuning status == 0x01 |
| [15:12:09] | somedude_: | >>> tuning status == 0x01 |
| [15:12:10] | somedude_: | ... |
| [15:12:14] | somedude_: | WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!! |
| [15:12:14] | somedude_: | >>> tune to: 12578:h:0:19850 (tuning failed) |
| [15:12:26] | Juski: | no! look at the tuning file to get an idea of how it's made up |
| [15:12:44] | somedude_: | i tried that too |
| [15:12:51] | somedude_: | # freq pol sr fec |
| [15:12:51] | somedude_: | S 11250000 V 12240000 5/6 |
| [15:13:10] | somedude_: | i know the frequency is 11250 MhZ and a transponer is as 1224 |
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| [15:14:28] | somedude_: | oops that 12224 |
| [15:15:04] | somedude_: | scanning Nimiq-91W |
| [15:15:06] | somedude_: | using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0' |
| [15:15:06] | somedude_: | initial transponder 11250000 V 12224000 5 |
| [15:15:06] | somedude_: | >>> tune to: 11250:v:0:12224 |
| [15:15:06] | somedude_: | WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!! |
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| [15:16:45] | markus: | juski: hi, laga told me that you have written a conf for lirc for a s100 remote control. is this correct? |
| [15:17:29] | somedude_: | tuning status == 0x00 |
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| [15:18:04] | somedude_: | so anyone :-S |
| [15:18:29] | Hoxzer: | does somebody here know how can I adjust tv-position with command using nvtv? |
| [15:18:40] | Longship: | Hi everybody. My channel database is screwed up. |
| [15:20:41] | somedude_: | yay foind one :) |
| [15:21:08] | Juski: | marcus: no not lirc. it's a keyboard map |
| [15:22:12] | Longship: | Is there any way to fix channel database without messing up the rest of the database? |
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| [15:22:54] | speedsix: | Hi all |
| [15:23:06] | markus: | juski: have you documented this anywhere? |
| [15:23:24] | Juski: | markus: I;ll check hang on |
| [15:23:33] | markus: | juski: thx |
| [15:23:37] | somedude_: | DiSEqC: switch pos 1, 13V, loband (index 4) |
| [15:23:37] | somedude_: | __tune_to_transponder: lnb_type.high_val=0 lnb_type.low_val=11250000 |
| [15:23:37] | somedude_: | __tune_to_transponder: f=974000 inv=2 sr=20000000 fec=4 |
| [15:23:37] | somedude_: | >>> tuning status == 0x01 |
| [15:23:42] | somedude_: | >>> tuning status == 0x01 |
| [15:23:42] | somedude_: | WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!! |
| [15:23:42] | somedude_: | >>> tune to: 12224:v:S0.0W:20000: (tuning failed) |
| [15:23:58] | somedude_: | thast what i get now.. |
| [15:24:09] | Juski: | http://www.juski.co.uk/s100/keycodes.txt |
| [15:25:16] | somedude_: | Juski: anu idea whay i get "tuning status == 0x01" |
| [15:25:34] | markus: | juski: hey thats a cool site... thx for that |
| [15:26:05] | Juski: | markus: stay tuned for updates there ;-) |
| [15:26:14] | ** speedsix has just fubar'd his frontend machine ** | |
| [15:27:01] | markus: | juski: i miss here the way I connect a monitor to the s100 |
| [15:27:16] | somedude_: | Juski: is there firmware or somethign i need for the driver? |
| [15:27:20] | Juski: | markus: you need a vga lead |
| [15:27:43] | markus: | juski: I have just insert a pci vga-card in the slot and it rocks |
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| [15:29:03] | speedsix: | Anyone any idea where I can begin looking to see why Gnome doesn't load? Just hangs with a background and a cursor, doesn't even get to the splash screen. If I do 'startx' it fails BUT Gnome will then load up properly on terminal 7??! |
| [15:31:22] | Longship: | speedsix – Well, I don't know if you should be asking that in the #mythtv-users IRC channel. |
| [15:32:47] | speedsix: | It's my myth machine if that counts ;) point taken |
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| [15:34:54] | somedude_: | Juski: thanx for the help... |
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| [15:35:40] | Longship: | Is there any way to fix channel database without messing up the rest of the database? |
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| [15:39:16] | markus: | jusky: thx |
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| [15:49:21] | Longship: | Gees, useless channel. Nobody even acknowledges anybody's existence. Thanks for nothing. |
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| [16:01:00] | dtm: | lol |
| [16:02:00] | Juski: | rotfl |
| [16:02:07] | Juski: | useless lusers |
| [16:02:17] | dtm: | yeah. |
| [16:02:27] | dtm: | fired. |
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| [16:08:29] | mocker: | Does anyone know when iaxtel will come back online? |
| [16:08:31] | mocker: | er.. |
| [16:08:33] | mocker: | Wrong window. |
| [16:17:00] | Sedorox: | iaxtel's offline? |
| [16:17:13] | Sedorox: | oh.. wrong company I'm thinking of :p |
| [16:18:20] | mocker: | :) |
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| [16:20:56] | Sedorox: | I was thinking teliax :p |
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| [16:45:01] | jedix: | hrm |
| [16:45:46] | jedix: | I'm getting an error about libetv not successfully started |
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| [16:46:34] | matt_: | hello |
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| [16:47:26] | woloi: | hi, has anyone here had any experience with Xgl and mythtv? |
| [16:48:23] | woloi: | i was bored yesterday, so i installed Xgl on my computer to see what it's all about, and I've noticed a few issues with MythTV, mostly in that Xgl has no XV support yet |
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| [16:48:52] | woloi: | also in that MythTV only does XV output |
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| [16:49:46] | woloi: | one of the workarounds i tried was running MythTV in the underlaying X server (DISPLAY=:93 mythfrontend), which works great, but when I exit MythTV my keyboard is unresponsive |
| [16:50:15] | woloi: | when i tried mplayer with that method i didn't have issues with the keyboard after i exited mplayer |
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| [16:51:06] | jedix: | if I'm trying to capture raw satellite feeds, it the TV format still ntsc? |
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| [17:08:01] | jedix: | has anyone setup dvb-s on a twinhan 1020? |
| [17:08:15] | jedix: | I don't know what frontend to use |
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| [17:18:16] | infringer: | still having backend connection issues for the life of me cant figure out whats up. This was done with no firewall... and all addresses are set to localhost or 127.0.0.1 running both frontend and backend on one computer. Huappage pvr-150 non mce, Mandrivia linux 2006. |
| [17:18:22] | infringer: | http://pastebin.ca/83328 |
| [17:19:05] | Anduin: | infringer: netstat -ap |
| [17:20:45] | Anduin: | infringer: make | grep myth to make it more reasonable |
| [17:21:19] | infringer: | http://pastebin.ca/83339 |
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| [17:22:00] | Anduin: | infringer: The backend is running... where? |
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| [17:22:35] | infringer: | Anduin; it isnt running |
| [17:22:47] | infringer: | why I have no earthly idea |
| [17:23:09] | infringer: | even if it is theres still connection issues |
| [17:23:14] | Anduin: | infringer: That could be one reason you can't connect to it. |
| [17:23:33] | infringer: | yes |
| [17:23:49] | infringer: | ok ... one sec I will start by user wakeup |
| [17:24:04] | Anduin: | in a separate console just run mythbackend |
| [17:24:53] | infringer: | Seem to be woken up by USER |
| [17:24:55] | infringer: | 2006-07–09 12:24:55.976 Running HouseKeeping |
| [17:25:30] | Anduin: | netstat -ap | grep myth |
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| [17:26:54] | infringer: | http://pastebin.ca/83343 |
| [17:27:19] | Anduin: | infringer: start mythfrontend |
| [17:28:04] | Juski: | ooo wow I can buy a rolex for like 10 dollars. I'd better send them all my personal details ASAP so I can receive my free gift :-/ |
| [17:28:42] | Juski: | are there actually any chumps who fall for that shit? |
| [17:29:07] | dtm: | y e s |
| [17:29:10] | Anduin: | No, they are just sent out again and again just to fill your inbox. |
| [17:29:26] | infringer: | http://pastebin.ca/83345 |
| [17:29:38] | infringer: | frontend |
| [17:30:02] | Anduin: | infringer: Now backend for the same period. |
| [17:30:14] | dtm: | Juski: some people are goal driven! setting their sights on something — anything — and what they perceive as winning a prize is the ultimate satisfaction. one step up on the economic ladder from that spam is ebay. ^_^ |
| [17:30:25] | dtm: | Juski: *completely* goal driven, that is |
| [17:30:41] | Juski: | heh |
| [17:30:43] | Juski: | suckers |
| [17:30:49] | dtm: | Juski: you may have seen them — they root for sports teams as if they're a member. |
| [17:31:02] | Juski: | sheep, or proles then ;-) |
| [17:31:05] | dtm: | yeah. |
| [17:31:27] | ** Juski goes back to his ivory tower :-D ** | |
| [17:31:37] | infringer: | http://pastebin.ca/83346 |
| [17:32:51] | Anduin: | infringer: Ok, so now fix your ivtv driver... |
| [17:33:02] | infringer: | hrmmm yes |
| [17:33:08] | infringer: | I see that now |
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| [17:35:28] | jono: | hi all |
| [17:35:35] | Juski: | hi jono |
| [17:35:41] | Kelerion: | hey jono |
| [17:35:49] | Juski: | how's life in lugradio land? ;-) |
| [17:36:00] | jono: | can anyone recommend a magic command that will convert an nuv video file into a theora, mpeg or divx video with no loss of lipsync? |
| [17:36:05] | jono: | hey Juski Kelerion |
| [17:36:08] | jono: | Juski, busy |
| [17:36:10] | Juski: | nuvexport? |
| [17:36:16] | Kelerion: | nuvexport |
| [17:36:18] | jono: | nuvexport hmm |
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| [17:37:55] | Juski: | heh I'm still preparing for the show. been painting today.. just resparying a front panel though |
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| [17:38:16] | Kelerion: | painting??? |
| [17:38:33] | Juski: | yeh my s100 front panel got scratched :-/ |
| [17:39:28] | Juski: | jono.. so you finally got your dvb tuner co-habiting nicely with the pvr150 card? |
| [17:39:30] | jono: | Juski, cool :) |
| [17:39:39] | jono: | Juski, I am gonna be upgrading the week after LRL :) |
| [17:39:50] | jono: | in which I should feel the dual tuner love :) |
| [17:40:08] | Juski: | yeh I'm on software hold now. if 0.20 came out, it'd make me quite unhappy |
| [17:41:06] | Juski: | no danger of that though, not with under 3 weeks to go ;-) |
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| [17:41:19] | janneg: | Juski: don't panic, .20 will take some time |
| [17:41:47] | Juski: | I'll have a svn install onsite though |
| [17:41:55] | jono: | Juski, awesome |
| [17:42:02] | jono: | Juski, will you be demoing the opengl interface ? |
| [17:42:18] | Juski: | erm... have you seen it? |
| [17:42:31] | jono: | nope |
| [17:42:37] | Juski: | it only provides a simple fade between menu screens at the minute |
| [17:42:42] | jono: | oh right |
| [17:42:53] | Juski: | lame as.. IMHO, but it's gonna be good longer term |
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| [17:43:57] | Juski: | before I forget in a red-wine haze, is it too soon to ask about the stand layout? |
| [17:44:16] | Juski: | no big deal.. just be interesting to know ;-) |
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| [17:45:59] | jono: | Juski, best email matt about that |
| [17:46:05] | jono: | he is dealing with the exibitors |
| [17:46:23] | Juski: | okees ta |
| [17:51:07] | Juski: | time to apply another coat.. brb |
| [17:51:19] | jono: | later! :) |
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| [18:05:21] | Longship: | Please, I need help. I've changed my channels and the schedule is now all screwed up. |
| [18:06:26] | Longship: | What I'd like to do is to completely reload the program schedule. Is this possible? |
| [18:06:46] | xris: | Longship: you mean wipe the program/channel tables and rerun mythfilldatabase? |
| [18:07:46] | Longship: | Yes, when I run mythfilldatabase, it does not update some of the channels and many of the programs are listed in the wrong channel. This is because the "channel" table has changed. |
| [18:08:19] | Longship: | Also, it has programs on channels that no longer appear in the "channel" table. |
| [18:08:40] | Longship: | Plus, some of the schedules list "Unknown (Unknown)". |
| [18:09:06] | Longship: | Things are pretty screwed up right now. |
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| [18:14:25] | Longship: | xris – If I delete all the records in the "program" table in MySQL will mythfilldatabase reload the schedule properly? |
| [18:15:32] | xris: | mythfilldatabase won't, but when it's done, the backend will regenerate it. |
| [18:15:41] | xris: | if all you want to do is reload the schedule, just restart the backend |
| [18:15:56] | xris: | but it sounds like you have corrupt program data |
| [18:16:43] | Longship: | That's what it looks like to me. I really want mythfilldatabase to load the whole thing from scratch. |
| [18:19:03] | jedix: | what's the name of the Bell Expresvu satelites? |
| [18:20:56] | Longship: | xris – That's what it looks like to me. I really want mythfilldatabase to load the whole thing from scratch. |
| [18:21:20] | xris: | yeah. then pop open the mysql client and DELETE FROM program;DELETE FROM channel; |
| [18:21:25] | xris: | then rerun mythfilldatabase |
| [18:21:30] | xris: | don't even need to restart the backend. |
| [18:22:07] | Longship: | xris – Do I really want to delete the channels? |
| [18:22:21] | xris: | yes |
| [18:22:31] | xris: | well, not necessarily |
| [18:22:34] | xris: | you could try without. |
| [18:22:51] | Longship: | xris – That's what I think. Channels are the way I want them. |
| [18:22:52] | xris: | but you said it was set to record things for channels that didn't exist, which tells me that there's still SOME channel data present. |
| [18:23:32] | xris: | Longship: you're using zap2it, right? |
| [18:23:46] | Longship: | No, this isn't about recording. It's about the schedule. |
| [18:23:59] | Longship: | xris – Er, the program schedule |
| [18:24:12] | xris: | Longship: yes, and? |
| [18:24:21] | Longship: | I'll try deleting the records in the "program" table. |
| [18:24:26] | Longship: | dangerous.... |
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| [18:24:53] | xris: | Longship: "This is because the "channel" table has changed." |
| [18:25:12] | xris: | as long as the channel table is *correct* then you're fine to leave it be |
| [18:25:35] | xris: | but... have you been manually messing with the channel table, or did zap2it change your lineup? |
| [18:25:39] | Longship: | xris – that's what I think. I think schedule is messed because chanid has changed. |
| [18:25:51] | xris: | how/why did the chanid change? |
| [18:25:51] | Longship: | I changed it in the channel editor. |
| [18:26:00] | Longship: | I don't know. |
| [18:26:31] | Longship: | Ah! Now downloading much more stuff. |
| [18:26:37] | xris: | ah.. yeah, that wasn't very smart... |
| [18:27:21] | xris: | anyway, what exactly did you do in the channel editor? |
| [18:27:28] | Longship: | :-) Now you tell me!! hehehe |
| [18:27:43] | Longship: | I wanted a channel that wasn't there. Added it. |
| [18:29:07] | xris: | and you're manually adding programs for it? |
| [18:29:09] | Longship: | Well, I still have a few "Unknown (Unknown)" entries in the schedule. |
| [18:29:29] | Longship: | No, I added some channels. |
| [18:30:32] | Longship: | Well, now the channels are correct on the schedule. |
| [18:30:53] | Longship: | But I still have those "Unknown (Unknown)" entries. |
| [18:31:12] | Longship: | I have verified the xmltvid entries in "channel" table. They are correct. |
| [18:32:10] | xris: | so zap2it doesn't list channels that you actually receive.... correct? |
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| [18:32:55] | Longship: | Well, that's where I got the xmltvid's, from zap2it.com. When I added the channels, I made sure that those were correct. |
| [18:33:35] | xris: | why not just fix your zap2it lineup? |
| [18:33:54] | xris: | or are you using xmltv and not datadirect? |
| [18:34:02] | Longship: | datadirect |
| [18:34:16] | Longship: | Aha! I think you've hit the nail on the head. |
| [18:34:36] | xris: | use dd to configure your channel info. |
| [18:34:37] | Longship: | I've got to log into zap2it.... Right? |
| [18:34:39] | xris: | yes |
| [18:34:42] | xris: | labs.zap2it.com |
| [18:34:46] | sardywork: | lo |
| [18:34:54] | Longship: | Dumb Longship.... Shoot me, please. |
| [18:35:19] | ** MythLogBot slaps Longship with a trout on behalf of xris... ** | |
| [18:35:46] | sardywork: | any ideas how to get mythtv to record more than 30 mins of unknown ? due to the way my tv is i can only record what im watching, so ideally i would like it to just record loop forever. |
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| [18:36:38] | ** Longship 's cat swallows trout whole. ** | |
| [18:37:52] | xris: | sardywork: not really sure... no xmltv setup for ireland? |
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| [18:40:02] | sardywork: | there is, but as i can only watch what im recording (input to mythtv via scart-composite) i never bothered to set-it up |
| [18:40:09] | sardywork: | didnt seem worth the effort |
| [18:40:51] | xris: | sardywork: from a cable tuner box? |
| [18:41:04] | sardywork: | mmds but same principal |
| [18:41:11] | xris: | irblaster isn't an option? |
| [18:41:15] | sardywork: | ?? |
| [18:41:19] | xris: | irblaster.info |
| [18:41:28] | xris: | lets myth chance channels on receiver boxes |
| [18:41:37] | sardywork: | ah |
| [18:41:45] | xris: | about $8–10 in parts if you want to build one |
| [18:41:54] | sardywork: | the remote control box i have has one of those but it aint working |
| [18:42:02] | sardywork: | granted its an MCE remote |
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| [18:42:21] | xris: | yeah, dunno if lirc supports that one (I have that but no longer need the blaster) |
| [18:44:30] | xris: | anyway, I'd recommend still using xmltv... that way even if you're taking the role of the ir blaster, mythtv will still file the shows properly, etc. |
| [18:44:54] | xris: | you could also turn on the receiver and set it to the channel you want, and if you had to be away during the recording, mythtv would start/stop at the correct time. |
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| [18:45:30] | sardywork: | ok |
| [18:45:32] | sardywork: | cheers |
| [18:45:36] | sardywork: | ill give both a try |
| [18:47:54] | Longship: | xris – Problem is 100% fixed. Thank you very much. |
| [18:48:36] | Longship: | xris – solution was to delete program table, set up zap2it correctly and run mythfilldatabase. |
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| [19:05:40] | xris: | man, my cheap new ipod sure is getting expensive. |
| [19:06:58] | Juski: | how so? |
| [19:07:36] | laga: | battery dead, display scratched? |
| [19:07:50] | xris: | tax, invisibleshield |
| [19:07:59] | Juski: | ah |
| [19:08:02] | laga: | heh |
| [19:08:20] | xris: | my sister bought herself a macbook this week.. she's a teacher, so they gave her a free ipod nano, which she already has, so I'm paying the difference for a 30G video ipod. |
| [19:08:23] | xris: | $100 :) |
| [19:08:38] | Juski: | I might have an ipoo if someone gave it to me. I prefer the look of the sony gear, but I know just how bad sony's software is |
| [19:08:41] | xris: | but tax was around $30, and an invisible shield is $25... |
| [19:08:50] | xris: | and I'd have to get a new itrip, which would be $50 |
| [19:09:00] | xris: | (or $70 for the one that doubles as a car charger) |
| [19:09:14] | Juski: | $70 for a cable thing?! |
| [19:09:24] | xris: | Juski: my first ipod was free. I won it at an apple store opening. |
| [19:09:36] | Juski: | ha. they know how to make money out of folks, for sure |
| [19:09:46] | xris: | itrip auto: http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/itripauto/ |
| [19:10:31] | xris: | my wife's car doesn't have a tape deck, just a radio... |
| [19:10:45] | Juski: | even so... |
| [19:10:59] | Juski: | it's expensive for what.. one IC in a fancy case |
| [19:11:01] | xris: | which means that I either keep my 10G ipod and its itrip for traveling, or sell it and hope to get enough to buy that |
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| [19:11:22] | xris: | and yes, expensive. |
| [19:11:24] | Juski: | oh wait.. it's got the Ipod connector, so add $50 |
| [19:11:27] | xris: | high quality stuff, though |
| [19:11:28] | xris: | heh |
| [19:11:35] | xris: | and the name.. apple gets royalties for that. |
| [19:11:49] | Juski: | maybe the licencing is more to blame |
| [19:12:39] | xris: | original itrip was like $35 |
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| [19:13:02] | xris: | plugged into the audio jack on old ipods, you changed the channel by special soundfiles that you would play... |
| [19:13:08] | xris: | pretty cool idea, but pita to change channels. |
| [19:14:51] | xris: | what interests me more is maybe one of those cf card readers.... heh |
| [19:15:26] | jedix: | hrm |
| [19:15:44] | xris: | so you svn users will have to give me some feedback on the new search page in mythweb. |
| [19:17:34] | laga: | i plan on upgrading to svn soonish. |
| [19:18:27] | Juski: | I'm eagerly anticipating the faster loading of pages :-) |
| [19:18:46] | xris: | I need to spend some time looking at DrNickRiviera's code and get stuff merged in |
| [19:25:49] | janneg: | xris: the new results page is nice. but for program with many repeats the airdate is suboptimal |
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| [19:27:26] | xris: | janneg: shouldn't be if you sort by title. :) |
| [19:27:31] | xris: | or category |
| [19:27:44] | xris: | but yeah, pondered hiding the "additional times" thing when sorting by airdate. |
| [19:27:59] | xris: | also need to account for multiple showings on different channels. |
| [19:29:38] | janneg: | no, if I search for "tagesschau" – title of german news program – I get more than 300 airdates for each |
| [19:30:21] | janneg: | ok. I see. sorting by title freezes konqueror |
| [19:30:27] | xris: | ouch.. |
| [19:30:37] | xris: | sort by title groups show titles together. |
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| [19:31:15] | janneg: | ah, it works. just takes time |
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| [19:33:17] | janneg: | sort by title is ok and I think it would be nice if sort by airdate also shows additional airdates |
| [19:33:46] | xris: | so what do you recommend for things like news shows? |
| [19:34:41] | janneg: | limit the number of additional airdates or just show them in the first entry |
| [19:35:41] | xris: | pondered showing only things AFTER the current one.... |
| [19:36:03] | xris: | need to get the additional-airdates stuff into the program details page, too |
| [19:38:44] | janneg: | that will leave many entries in the first one. |
| [19:39:11] | xris: | yes |
| [19:39:14] | xris: | and second/third/etc |
| [19:39:21] | xris: | also pondered a mouseover to hold that info |
| [19:39:33] | janneg: | maybe limiting 2 before and 8 after is enough |
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| [19:45:02] | xris: | previous 2, next 8. that could be good |
| [19:45:18] | xris: | or put it on the details page and add a link to "more..." |
| [19:45:21] | jedix: | hrm |
| [19:46:02] | jedix: | I can't get mythbackend to run, it quits and -v all says No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
| [19:46:20] | Juski: | jedix: qt3 or qt4 ? |
| [19:46:32] | jedix: | qt4 (i think) |
| [19:46:36] | Juski: | oops |
| [19:46:42] | Juski: | uninstall that, get qt3 |
| [19:46:45] | Juski: | qt4 will not work |
| [19:47:15] | jedix: | really? |
| [19:47:21] | jedix: | it was working earlier today |
| [19:47:21] | Juski: | totally |
| [19:47:29] | jedix: | how do I check what qt? |
| [19:47:29] | Juski: | qt4 won't work at all |
| [19:47:51] | jedix: | but it's a database thing, not the gui |
| [19:48:03] | Juski: | QT4 WILL NOT WORK |
| [19:48:05] | jedix: | the backend won't run.. what does that have to do with qt? |
| [19:48:15] | Juski: | string handling, db handling, you name it |
| [19:48:29] | jedix: | how do I check what qt I have installed?? |
| [19:48:37] | jedix: | s/??/?/ |
| [19:48:43] | janneg: | I think it's more likely qt without mysql |
| [19:48:52] | Juski: | or qt4 |
| [19:48:57] | janneg: | qt4 will give compile errors |
| [19:49:07] | Juski: | not necessarily |
| [19:49:27] | Juski: | I know someone who installed qt4 by accident – myth went okay just wouldn't talk to the db |
| [19:50:25] | jedix: | ..so how do I check what qt I'm running? |
| [19:52:48] | Juski: | do a pretend install of qt.. see which v. number is reported, e.g. |
| [19:53:15] | laga: | what distro? |
| [19:53:25] | jedix: | debian |
| [19:54:10] | laga: | dpkg --list | grep qt |
| [19:54:14] | janneg: | xris: and a regression: the search displays dplicate results of multiple channels with identical channum and callsign |
| [19:54:30] | jedix: | apparently I have both installed |
| [19:54:47] | Juski: | oops |
| [19:55:12] | jedix: | k |
| [19:55:13] | jedix: | removed |
| [19:55:24] | jedix: | same thing though |
| [19:55:24] | Juski: | though not necessarily a problem if myth is linked to the right one |
| [19:55:27] | jedix: | should I restart? |
| [19:56:01] | jedix: | so it should be alright? |
| [19:56:21] | xris: | janneg: odd. didn't think I touched anything that would do that... but sort of makes sense. |
| [19:57:14] | jedix: | so how do I go about changing the password for the mythtv user in mysql? |
| [19:57:40] | Juski: | so how do you go about RTFM?! |
| [19:57:51] | xris: | jedix: read the mc.sql file and use that grant syntax with the new password |
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| [19:58:15] | jedix: | sorry :/ |
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| [20:01:59] | psm321: | hi |
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| [20:09:29] | psm321: | when i switch to a new lineup, whaat happens to all my channel-specific recording schedules? |
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| [20:11:03] | ThreeE: | Hey all. I've got two PVR-150s — when I do "ivtv-tune -c 60 /dev/video1" it changes the channel on /dev/video0 saying "/dev/video0: 439.250 MHz (Signal Detected)" |
| [20:11:22] | ThreeE: | Any ideas? TIA |
| [20:13:25] | psm321: | ivtv-tune -c60 -d/dev/video1 |
| [20:13:41] | psm321: | (i dont use it, just looking at docs, so no promises) |
| [20:14:40] | ThreeE: | that made a difference, now I get "/dev/video1: 229.250 MHz (Signal Detected)" but the channel doesn't change |
| [20:15:09] | psm321: | odd that it found a different frequency |
| [20:15:15] | ThreeE: | I've looked farther, it seems in dmesg that ivtv didn't set the tuner type on /dev/video1 |
| [20:15:37] | ThreeE: | sorry — used a different channel |
| [20:15:45] | ThreeE: | /dev/video1: 439.250 MHz (Signal Detected) |
| [20:15:54] | ThreeE: | same channel that time |
| [20:16:22] | psm321: | sorry, i have no idea |
| [20:16:30] | ThreeE: | np, thx anyway |
| [20:16:31] | psm321: | hopefully someeone else will know |
| [20:16:48] | psm321: | are they identical cards? (revision number, etc)? |
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| [20:17:19] | ThreeE: | both are PVR-150s, but they are different revisions — probably require different tuner modules is my current theory |
| [20:18:59] | psm321: | thats quite possible |
| [20:19:19] | psm321: | i know i had issues with different tuner modules between 2 cards |
| [20:19:39] | ThreeE: | googling my heart out on it now |
| [20:19:50] | psm321: | (back then i think there was a single tuner instead of each driver having its own) |
| [20:20:02] | ThreeE: | that would be nice |
| [20:20:12] | psm321: | huh? |
| [20:20:14] | psm321: | no i meant |
| [20:20:21] | psm321: | you would load a single tuner module |
| [20:20:35] | ThreeE: | oh right |
| [20:20:36] | psm321: | instead of being able to specify it when you loaded the main card module |
| [20:20:38] | psm321: | but at least i had 2 separate drivers (ivtv and bttv) |
| [20:20:50] | psm321: | getting 2 separate tuners with 1 driver might be tricky |
| [20:21:01] | ThreeE: | so it seems |
| [20:21:09] | psm321: | or, i could have no idea what i'm talking about :) |
| [20:21:21] | ThreeE: | I suffer from that as well |
| [20:21:23] | psm321: | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /060994.html |
| [20:21:29] | psm321: | (havent readd thru it yet) |
| [20:22:41] | psm321: | huh... the reply says it should autodetect |
| [20:22:43] | psm321: | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /060998.html |
| [20:22:52] | ThreeE: | wow, that guy recoded the driver |
| [20:22:58] | psm321: | heh |
| [20:23:25] | ThreeE: | this is the right track though |
| [20:23:50] | psm321: | does it fail to set a tuner or just say nothing about it? |
| [20:24:29] | ThreeE: | it fails to set the tuner. In fact, I had to go into Windows2000 to get the new card to display a single channel — which I now can't change |
| [20:25:33] | psm321: | maybe its a really new tuner that isnt supported yet |
| [20:25:43] | ThreeE: | yeah, I worried about that too |
| [20:27:59] | ThreeE: | perhaps I should add other video adapters in my kernel other than the BT848 |
| [20:28:43] | psm321: | dunno... i dont think that's relevant but i'm not sure |
| [20:28:51] | psm321: | its been a long time since i set mine up |
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| [20:30:14] | ThreeE: | lots of odd things in the dmesg ivtv section: |
| [20:30:15] | ThreeE: | http://pastebin.ca/83441 |
| [20:30:59] | ThreeE: | tuner model is definitely different |
| [20:32:06] | ThreeE: | lines 62 and 63 are the kickers |
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| [20:42:29] | psm321: | hmm, it knows the typee |
| [20:42:40] | psm321: | so it should know what it is |
| [20:43:15] | ThreeE: | two different tuner types — type 4 means it can't find a tuner (found that out here: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . 136042.html) |
| [20:43:58] | psm321: | ah |
| [20:44:06] | psm321: | take a look at this http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/archive/o_t/t . . . del_274.html |
| [20:44:15] | psm321: | looks almost exacctly like yours |
| [20:44:31] | ThreeE: | hehe — exactly where I was looking! |
| [20:44:37] | psm321: | :) |
| [20:44:45] | ThreeE: | google is a wonderful thing |
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| [20:46:22] | ThreeE: | they are suggesting putting an option statement in the modprobe.conf file — where exactly do I put it? |
| [20:47:06] | ThreeE: | I guess after the ivtv line |
| [20:49:02] | psm321: | i dont think it matters |
| [20:49:07] | ThreeE: | ok, going to reboot.... |
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| [20:49:36] | psm321: | you dont have any other cardds (non-150) do you? |
| [20:49:41] | ThreeE: | nope |
| [20:49:55] | psm321: | and i have no idea why i keep typing double characters :) |
| [20:50:04] | ThreeE: | nnerves |
| [20:50:23] | ThreeE: | ok, be right back... thanks for your help |
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| [20:54:11] | ThreeE: | no joy |
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| [20:56:15] | Mattwj2005: | hey guys |
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| [20:59:45] | Mattwj2005: | anyone around this afternoon? |
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| [21:00:26] | ThreeE: | yes |
| [21:00:38] | Mattwj2005: | hey how are you? |
| [21:00:53] | ThreeE: | trying to get a PVR-150 tuner to work — and you? |
| [21:01:01] | Mattwj2005: | I am doing pretty good |
| [21:01:11] | Mattwj2005: | I just got my HDTV tuner setup.... |
| [21:01:23] | Mattwj2005: | I wonder if I am going to have any problems with it |
| [21:01:38] | ThreeE: | I haven't used HDTV yet — good luck |
| [21:01:47] | Mattwj2005: | thanks |
| [21:02:16] | Mattwj2005: | hey do you by any chance know what happens to MythTV if it can't tune a channel? |
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| [21:02:40] | ThreeE: | I don't think it can tell — it just asks the driver to tune it |
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| [21:03:02] | Mattwj2005: | oh...that will suck then |
| [21:03:18] | riddlebox: | hello, when I start mythfrontend I see an error saying some other device is using /dev/dsp and it cannot open it, but nothing else is using /dev/dsp, I can play sounds fine through everything else? |
| [21:03:38] | ThreeE: | riddle using gnome? |
| [21:03:47] | riddlebox: | ThreeE, yes |
| [21:04:02] | ThreeE: | turn off your sound server |
| [21:04:22] | ThreeE: | preferences, sound |
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| [21:05:18] | riddlebox: | ThreeE, thanks! |
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| [21:05:36] | ThreeE: | I think you can run both if you get the hardware mixing to work |
| [21:05:55] | ThreeE: | gotta reboot... |
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| [21:12:58] | psm321: | ThreeE: any luck? |
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| [21:13:22] | psm321: | did the options line not force the tuner, or did it force the tuner but still not work? |
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| [21:13:43] | ThreeE: | no luck yet — I am trying to add a line to modprobe.conf, but it disappears after reboot |
| [21:14:29] | ThreeE: | I tried options ivtv tuner=50,-1, but I think that sets the tuner for card 0 — which works — so I am trying options ivtv tuner=50, which sets 50 for all cards |
| [21:14:52] | ThreeE: | but any changes I make to /etc/modprobe.conf disappear after a reboot — any idea why? |
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| [21:15:15] | psm321: | what distro? |
| [21:15:19] | ThreeE: | gentoo |
| [21:15:27] | psm321: | aha |
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| [21:16:47] | psm321: | stick it in /etc/modules.d/ivtv |
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| [21:17:17] | ThreeE: | ah yes — modprobe.conf is a generated file.... duh. |
| [21:17:52] | psm321: | or /etc/modules.d/tuner... i dont think it really matters |
| [21:17:58] | psm321: | i think it just sticks them all together |
| [21:18:05] | ThreeE: | right — ok, rebooting... |
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| [21:21:46] | ThreeE: | still not setting the tuner type — gonna try a different syntax |
| [21:23:12] | psm321: | did it stick it into modules.conf? |
| [21:23:23] | ThreeE: | yep — at least that worked |
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| [21:23:52] | ThreeE: | I think I used the wrong sytax though |
| [21:23:58] | ThreeE: | I used "options ivtv tuner=50" |
| [21:24:12] | ThreeE: | I think I need "options ivtv tuner=50,50 |
| [21:24:27] | ThreeE: | yep that seems to be the problem |
| [21:24:56] | ThreeE: | rebooting again... |
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| [21:28:01] | ThreeE: | psm321 — that got it working! |
| [21:28:20] | psm321: | :-D |
| [21:28:24] | ThreeE: | thx for your help — it's conversations like this that make me love open source stuff |
| [21:28:43] | ThreeE: | now I'll hang around some other IRC channel for a while and help someone else |
| [21:29:03] | ThreeE: | you learn stuff, have some fun, and things get done |
| [21:29:47] | psm321: | yep :) |
| [21:30:07] | psm321: | although i dont usually hang out just to help anymore |
| [21:30:07] | ThreeE: | I guess later versions of ivtv will allow this new tuner to be autodetected |
| [21:30:16] | psm321: | (i did in high school) |
| [21:30:38] | psm321: | i usually end up coming into a channel to ask a question, not getting any help but helping someone else :-D |
| [21:30:48] | ThreeE: | well, thanks for doing it this time — it helps a lot to simply talk through a problem with someone |
| [21:30:53] | psm321: | no problem |
| [21:31:00] | psm321: | yeah, you found everything yourself :-D |
| [21:31:13] | psm321: | i've come up with answers to my own questions after asking |
| [21:31:13] | ThreeE: | all so I can catch the next episode of whatever :) |
| [21:31:28] | psm321: | after spending hours not being able to figure it out |
| [21:31:42] | psm321: | are you new to mythtv or just adding a card? |
| [21:31:57] | ThreeE: | just adding a card — first time I've had more than one |
| [21:32:17] | ThreeE: | been using myth for a couple years — about 1 year on gentoo |
| [21:32:31] | psm321: | :) |
| [21:32:40] | ** psm321 wants to add a 3rd card ** | |
| [21:32:55] | psm321: | but having trouble finding a cheap one that does audio w/o a sound card |
| [21:33:01] | ThreeE: | 3 would be great. 2 is nice so you can record and watch |
| [21:33:18] | ** psm321 rarely watches livetv anymore ** | |
| [21:33:18] | ThreeE: | really? |
| [21:33:31] | psm321: | yeah |
| [21:33:36] | ThreeE: | I'd like to try having a slave backend sometime |
| [21:33:56] | ThreeE: | but that would be just a hobby thing |
| [21:34:15] | psm321: | 250's are expensive (probably 150's too, havent checked), plus they dont do captions (well actually they do but i havent installed 0.19 yet... looking forward to that) |
| [21:34:26] | ** psm321 is a closed caption junkie ** | |
| [21:34:42] | psm321: | partially because it helps watch shows at 2x, which saves a lot of time |
| [21:34:43] | ThreeE: | I haven't done cc yet — I'll have to read up on how to do that |
| [21:34:56] | ThreeE: | yeah — I watch news at 2x |
| [21:35:08] | ThreeE: | talking head stuff is easy to watch fast |
| [21:35:12] | psm321: | well with normal (non-ivtv) cards it should just work |
| [21:35:31] | ThreeE: | what distro are you using 0.18 on? |
| [21:35:44] | psm321: | i think 0.19 has 2x built in too (right now i have to hack it, only goes to 1.5) |
| [21:35:47] | psm321: | gentoo |
| [21:35:59] | psm321: | its actually a post-0.18 |
| [21:36:03] | psm321: | cvs |
| [21:36:06] | ThreeE: | that's true — I think it only goes to 1.5 on mine |
| [21:36:08] | ThreeE: | ah |
| [21:36:18] | psm321: | i used to update frequently, but now its been like a year |
| [21:36:27] | ThreeE: | 0.19 out of portage works for me — you must be doing some customizations |
| [21:36:36] | psm321: | and i just got internet access at home today |
| [21:36:48] | ThreeE: | ah — where are you |
| [21:36:50] | psm321: | i dont use portage for myth or ivtv |
| [21:36:55] | psm321: | because i want to mess with it |
| [21:37:03] | ThreeE: | you mod the code? |
| [21:37:07] | psm321: | new jersey, have a summer job in nyc |
| [21:37:15] | psm321: | just for that one bit so far |
| [21:37:26] | ThreeE: | ah yes NY — fun place if you can afford it |
| [21:37:29] | psm321: | heh |
| [21:37:32] | psm321: | yep |
| [21:37:49] | psm321: | took me a while to get a decent deal on internet |
| [21:37:57] | psm321: | so i've been net-less for 2 months |
| [21:38:05] | ThreeE: | that would be painful |
| [21:38:12] | psm321: | in the meantime, portage wants to do like 300 updates |
| [21:38:32] | psm321: | including a profile switch where my current one is already completely discontinued |
| [21:38:48] | ThreeE: | yeah, that can be tough — I like to do the updates often — that way the changes come at you at a manageable rate |
| [21:38:55] | psm321: | andd what appears to be (havent read forums yet) a big switch in the way they do xorg packaging |
| [21:39:03] | ThreeE: | modular |
| [21:39:08] | psm321: | heh, i still have config files to go through from the last big update |
| [21:39:10] | psm321: | yeah |
| [21:39:20] | psm321: | gotta find the migration instructions for that |
| [21:39:42] | ThreeE: | modular update was pretty smooth for me — just a bit of nvidia driver foolishness to work through — took about 15 minutes to google that one |
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| [21:40:24] | psm321: | what sort of foolishness? (i have nvidia) |
| [21:40:47] | ThreeE: | you basically have to re-emerge the packages — nothing too bad |
| [21:41:21] | psm321: | dont u have to do that after an x upgrade anyways? |
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| [21:41:39] | psm321: | ooh good its recent which means the guide is still on the front page |
| [21:41:59] | ThreeE: | I guess — maybe I haven't done a major version update yet and just was surprised by it |
| [21:42:24] | ThreeE: | I think the change to modular will be good in the long run though |
| [21:43:35] | psm321: | yeah |
| [21:44:13] | psm321: | i'm scared though because i've had issues with gentoo upgrades before |
| [21:44:28] | psm321: | including one that led to only one channel of sound for months |
| [21:45:09] | psm321: | and one that led me to believe that my filesystem had died (luckily that wasnt actually the case) |
| [21:45:10] | ThreeE: | yeah, I always ermerge -p first, and leave time for the inevitable problems for any emerge — esp. major upgrades |
| [21:45:11] | psm321: | (dont ask unless you want to hear rants) |
| [21:45:22] | psm321: | huh? |
| [21:45:25] | ThreeE: | wow — that's gotta be some story |
| [21:45:53] | ThreeE: | I even to a dd of my disk to another disk in some cases |
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| [21:46:51] | TehUni: | i want to add a monitor, but not be able to use a cursor on it. basically, it's a screen for my mythtv frontend, so i want it basically detatched from the user. Any way to do this? |
| [21:47:52] | ThreeE: | TehUni: you don't want the user to be able to run mythtv? |
| [21:48:21] | TehUni: | ThreeE: i do. but i'm running it on my workstation. and i have a separate monitor just for mythtv |
| [21:48:42] | TehUni: | so i want a dual-monitor setup, but dont want to be able to use the 2nd monitor. just have mythtv displayed in it. |
| [21:48:55] | ThreeE: | I do exactly that — what distro are you using? |
| [21:49:01] | TehUni: | kubuntu |
| [21:49:21] | ThreeE: | hmmm... in gentoo I set a USE flag called xinearama |
| [21:49:40] | ThreeE: | if you google that, there is probably a way to set that up in kubuntu |
| [21:49:47] | ThreeE: | it is a X setting |
| [21:50:00] | TehUni: | ThreeE: yea, i've used xinerama |
| [21:50:09] | TehUni: | but it lets the desktop span 2 monitors |
| [21:50:35] | ThreeE: | there is a setting in mythtv to tell it which monitor to confine itself to |
| [21:50:58] | TehUni: | ThreeE: but i want the mouse to stop at the end of the first monitor |
| [21:51:12] | TehUni: | can i do that? |
| [21:51:17] | ThreeE: | TehUni — ah I see. I don't do that |
| [21:51:39] | geemark: | What does this mean: "EntryToProgram(0@Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970) failed to get pginfo" |
| [21:51:40] | ThreeE: | you can set mythtv to not display the mouse |
| [21:51:57] | psm321: | speaking of multiple monitors, i should probably spend some time getting my x configuration fixed (though i've alreay spent many hours before) |
| [21:52:06] | geemark: | Not much debug info to get here: "2006-07–09 23:50:12.901 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started" |
| [21:52:40] | Anduin: | geemark: No program info |
| [21:52:54] | psm321: | (my tv out wont work unless there is a monitor physically hooked up... which of course leads to the same [well opposite] mouse issue that TehUni has) |
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| [21:54:12] | ThreeE: | geemark — I had that problem yesterday |
| [21:54:27] | ThreeE: | your mythtv setup doesn't have channel info |
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| [21:55:19] | ThreeE: | geemark — shut down your backend, do a mythfilldatabase, and restart your backend |
| [21:55:21] | Anduin: | geemark: The number before the @ is the channel it is trying. |
| [21:55:31] | ThreeE: | you'll be cooking with gas after that |
| [21:57:14] | geemark: | Anduin, ThreeE thanks, will try that |
| [21:57:46] | ThreeE: | psm321: very cool to be able to use PIP now |
| [21:58:38] | jedix: | so.. umm, I'm not sure if htis is a correct place to ask my question |
| [21:59:26] | jedix: | but I want to build someting called scsa |
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| [21:59:31] | jedix: | apparently |
| [21:59:58] | jedix: | (is this an alright place to ask about such an application? |
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| [22:00:53] | ThreeE: | jedix, what is scsa? |
| [22:01:10] | jedix: | Stand-alone SoftCAM |
| [22:01:17] | psm321: | ThreeE: i tried that a couple times, doesnt really fit with my viewing style |
| [22:01:34] | laga: | no. |
| [22:01:41] | laga: | softcams are baaaaaaad, ummk? |
| [22:02:25] | jedix: | why? |
| [22:02:52] | jedix: | not legal? |
| [22:03:43] | GreyFoxx: | legally questionable, just like bittorrent stuff. And the mythtv project doesn'twant to be involved in anything that canbring lawyers a running |
| [22:04:07] | ** psm321 wonders what a softcam iss ** | |
| [22:04:08] | GreyFoxx: | something being flat out illegal is irrelevant since you can still be sued |
| [22:04:10] | jedix: | ah, alright. thanks |
| [22:04:37] | psm321: | :-/ didn't start working as easily as i'd hoped |
| [22:04:47] | ** ThreeE wonders along with psm321 ** | |
| [22:05:01] | GreyFoxx: | psm321: Basically it emulates in software the decrytion normally done by a sat receiver inb hardware |
| [22:05:09] | GreyFoxx: | damn I hate this keyboard |
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| [22:06:47] | psm321: | ah |
| [22:07:11] | geemark: | can anyone please explain how the h... I tell mythtv / lircd, which buttons should do what? |
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| [22:08:09] | geemark: | I'm going nuts – I have /etc/lircd.conf map IR signals to names, and .mythtv/lirdrc to map names to myth commands |
| [22:08:13] | geemark: | what else do I need? |
| [22:08:17] | unicorn13: | Hi All, is there anyone out there who knows a good guide to set up the dvico dual digital only dvb-t pci card up on suse 10.1 in the UK? |
| [22:08:27] | geemark: | (using the pvr-350 remote) |
| [22:08:30] | sigger_: | geemark: /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc that one? |
| [22:08:43] | geemark: | sigger: yes |
| [22:08:53] | psm321: | completely offtopic, but when did comedy central change their daily show/colbert showtimes? |
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| [22:09:23] | sigger_: | geemark: also fyi http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=Logitech_Harmony_Remote |
| [22:10:00] | psm321: | i have a PVR-350 remote working... |
| [22:10:19] | psm321: | does irw show the right things |
| [22:10:36] | geemark: | sigger_: not sure I get your point? that's for another remote? |
| [22:11:29] | sigger_: | geemark based on the 350 i believe. show's someone's config. |
| [22:11:45] | geemark: | psm321: weird – irw terminates immediately, and then kills the lircd |
| [22:11:52] | sigger_: | i find it an easier jumping off point |
| [22:13:07] | geemark: | it's weird though – my remote "works" – though the mappings are way off – 2 means down, 8 means up etc... does mythtv have some rules built-in for the (old) pvr-350 remote that conflicts with the new one? |
| [22:13:24] | laga: | geemark: .mythtv/lircrc |
| [22:13:42] | geemark: | laga: ...? |
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| [22:15:25] | geemark: | I should compile mythtv with lirc support right? or does that conflict with the lirc deamon? |
| [22:16:19] | psm321: | this is odd... my pvr350 wont tune channels less than 5 |
| [22:17:26] | unicorn13: | Asking my question here, because a user on the linutx channel sadi a mythtv user had problems with the dvico dual digital but got it working, is he/she online? |
| [22:18:40] | psm321: | actually even weirder, it only tunes channels 5 and 6 (and maybe some others that i haent caught) |
| [22:18:44] | psm321: | ay ideas?n |
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| [22:22:30] | psm321: | ok, my other tuner does the exact same thing |
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| [22:23:52] | psm321: | they both play 5,6,117 |
| [22:24:22] | psm321: | on all other channels that i should have, the 350 shows a certain snow pattern and the bttv shows pure blue |
| [22:24:50] | psm321: | and on the channels i dont have, the 350 shows a different (more disorderly) snoww pattern and bttv shows garbage/snow |
| [22:24:59] | psm321: | my tv tunes all the ones i should have fine |
| [22:25:51] | psm321: | n/m i got it |
| [22:25:52] | psm321: | its hrc |
| [22:26:02] | psm321: | thought that was some ancient thing that nobody uses |
| [22:26:25] | unicorn13: | Are there any users online in the UK who have the dvico HDTV dual digital dvb-t pci card working with Suse 10.1? |
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| [22:28:06] | psm321: | now how do i tell mythtv that? |
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| [22:30:01] | psm321: | n/m on that too |
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| [22:38:24] | sardywork: | hey |
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| [22:39:14] | sardywork: | i set-up xmltv, but when i press record mythv will still only record 30 mins before stopping, is there a way to get it to just record forever and overwrite as needed ? |
| [22:39:31] | mk500: | hi all....anyone have any advice for newby DTC-6200/firewire user? |
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| [22:49:16] | psm321: | sardywork: how are you recording? |
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| [22:51:31] | xris: | laga: my condolences.. ;) |
| [22:51:42] | xris: | (re italy) |
| [22:51:55] | laga: | xris: ah well. as i said, i don't really care much :) |
| [22:51:59] | xris: | heh |
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| [23:00:19] | sardywork: | psm321: sorry, how you mean ? |
| [23:00:32] | sardywork: | via composite1 input |
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| [23:05:57] | sardywork: | anyway tomorrow is another day |
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| [23:09:52] | wathek: | hello all |
| [23:10:01] | wathek: | I'm trying to compile mythtv under Fedora Core 5 |
| [23:10:26] | xris: | wathek: why? |
| [23:10:40] | wathek: | huh ? |
| [23:10:50] | wathek: | xris, coz I'd like to use it with my dvb card |
| [23:11:05] | xris: | again, why compile? packages work fine |
| [23:11:15] | wathek: | in which repo ? |
| [23:11:17] | xris: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [23:11:28] | xris: | the only repo that *has* mythtv packages for fedora |
| [23:11:30] | xris: | (yest) |
| [23:11:34] | xris: | er, "yet" |
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| [23:13:07] | ThreeE: | I'm looking to set up my PVR-150 IR blaster. The best docs I have found on how to do this is here: http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=24. |
| [23:13:16] | ThreeE: | Is this the best way to go? |
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| [23:13:40] | _Vile: | anyone know anything about the diseqc sg2100? |
| [23:13:43] | xris: | my pvr-150 didn't come with a blaster. :( |
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| [23:14:07] | ThreeE: | odd — I thought all PVR-150s did |
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| [23:15:53] | xris: | ThreeE: I got mine a long time ago.. mce version. |
| [23:16:01] | ThreeE: | ah |
| [23:16:11] | xris: | I don't need a blaster anymore, anyway. and had already built one back then. |
| [23:16:46] | ThreeE: | well, the site I referenced seems overly complicated — was hoping there was something better by now for a gentoo dist |
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| [23:50:05] | mk500: | myth remembers the last channel you were on when you watch live TV; anyone know where this is stored? |
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| [23:51:04] | JRHJ: | anyone have comments on whether mythstream is worth the pain of installing? |
| [23:51:04] | Anduin: | mk500: With the card entry in the DB |
| [23:51:36] | mk500: | Anduin: cool, found in cardinput table under "startchan"; many thanks |
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| [23:57:05] | xris: | JRHJ: do you listen to web streams? |
| [23:57:26] | xris: | or is mythmusic good enough? |
| [23:57:49] | JRHJ: | i don't listen to webstreams but if it was easy enough, I might |
| [23:57:59] | JRHJ: | i guess i'm a little lazy :) |
| [23:58:40] | xris: | it's only worth it if you use it. |
| [23:58:49] | ** xris digs these habanero olives. :) ** | |
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