Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Monday, July 3rd, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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scales:

well this blows, i still dont have permission to that folder

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scopeuk:

Enverex yes

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scopeuk:

scales then give it permision

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scales:

i did

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scopeuk:

man chmod

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Enverex:

scopeuk : Ah, hmm

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scopeuk:

you sure?

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scales:

i even changed the mount point to /home/mythtv/recordings, which is a file that my mythtv user created

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scales:

well i will change it back,

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scales:

to /myth

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scales:

ok and did

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scales:

chmod 666 /myth

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scales:

and chown mythtv /myth

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scales:

mythtv is my user

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scopeuk:

yes

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scopeuk:

i know it shouldent be needed but if you chmod 777 /myth does it work?

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scales:

let me try

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fer2:

how can I disable the constant recording done by mythtv?

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scales:

son of a gun,

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scopeuk:

which constant recording?

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scales:

i think chmod 777 did it

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scales:

wiers

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scales:

why would that matter?

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scopeuk:

chmod 777 is alpremisions to all users

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scopeuk:

security risk

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scales:

right but what is 666

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scopeuk:

im not even sure

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scales:

k

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scopeuk:

hm should be read/write all

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scales:

hang on the big test

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scales:

uh huh

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scopeuk:

may not give you permision to make dir's etc

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Enverex:

Why is the Nova-T so popular?

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scopeuk:

its cheep

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scopeuk:

cheap*

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Enverex:

There are cheaper ones (on eBuyer)

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scopeuk:

yeh but are the pci or usb?

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scopeuk:

the nova -t is also known to work

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Enverex:

Both

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scopeuk:

fair enough

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Enverex:

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/search/index.h . . . ubcatUID=716

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scopeuk:

are they dvb-t?

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Enverex:

Yes

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scopeuk:

cheaper oens are gereat if your using windows

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scopeuk:

but you usually run into driver issues with linux

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Enverex:

Grrr, mythfilldb is only at 47%

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scales:

bingo

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scales:

all works!

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scales:

super

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scopeuk:

ok chmod 666 is wrad/write for you and your group and the rest of the known world (as far as your box goes)

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scopeuk:

read*

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fer2:

Do you know how to disable the "live rewind feature" ? I don't need it... and it only makes the pc slower...

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scopeuk:

sorry fer cant say i do

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scales:

thaks guys

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scales:

i will be back later with more questions i am sure

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scales:

later

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Enverex:

How much time ahead does the filldb grab exactly?

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scopeuk:

2 weeks normal

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scopeuk:

y

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scopeuk:

iirc

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Enverex:

Damn, taking hell of a time to do it... is it just plain text?

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scopeuk:

im not sure what are you grabing and from where

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Enverex:

erm, "UK Alternative"

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Enverex:

that's all I selected and it kinda just went off on its own

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scopeuk:

hmm

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scopeuk:

you have done the setup in the terminal right?

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scopeuk:

when you configure that graber it starts asking questions in the terminal

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scopeuk:

use alt tab to get to it

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Enverex:

Oh, I just put yes to all...

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Enverex:

heh

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scopeuk:

manuallyo r with all

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scopeuk:

ou have digital right

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scopeuk:

or someone si goingt oeb very busy removign junk

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Enverex:

...

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Enverex:

I dont even have a tuner in this PC at the moment, lol, but I'm going to use it just as a guide for now anyway "see what's on"

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scopeuk:

your mad myht is so overkill for that

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scopeuk:

xmltv and a webinterface for it(there are plenty)

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scopeuk:

or use the normal program on windows

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scopeuk:

any way im going to bed

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Enverex:

erm, I'm using Myth for the fact I can listen to my music, play my videos and do the other stuff..

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fer2:

I can't get lirc to work..... can anyone give me some help?

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Enverex:

OH FFS YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME

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Enverex:

After what, 2 hours or so it gets to the end then says "KILLED" and it hasn't saved any of it

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Enverex:

What a waste of time

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GreyFoxx:

the end of what ?

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Enverex:

The initial mythbackendfill thing

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GreyFoxx:

Where are you located?

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Enverex:

UK

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GreyFoxx:

ok

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GreyFoxx:

was just curious why a mythfilldb would take that long :)

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D-side:

killed?

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D-side:

out of mem?

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fer2:

GreyFoxx: Is there a way get a channel list on screen? what key do I need to press?

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Enverex:

I don't know, all it said was killed

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fer2:

when I press "s" I get an empty epg, and i can view 4 channel names, ad go up/down, but then I can't switch to that channel...

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GreyFoxx:

fer2: I just use M to pull the onscreen menu, first option is program guide (when in livetv)

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GreyFoxx:

but I never really use livetv, so it's pretty rare for me to load it

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fer2:

thanks.. must have misse that..

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fer2:

(missed)

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LoneShadow:

GreyFoxx, how do you schedule recordings ?

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GreyFoxx:

LoneShadow: I use mythweb 99% of the time for scheduling

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GreyFoxx:

the other rare time I load the program guide from the menus, not from inside livetv

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fer2:

I can't get Lirc to run...

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GreyFoxx:

lirc seems to cause a lot fo people problems

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fer2:

it's on ttys0.... and it's active, because I get power on the receiver...

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GreyFoxx:

though it's apprently gotten better

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** GreyFoxx happily doesn't use it **

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LoneShadow:

if I click on schedule for a show from program listings, it dosnt show up in upcoming recordings

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LoneShadow:

it stays only in Recording schedules

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LoneShadow:

and dosnt record :D

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LoneShadow:

anyone know what might be wrong ?

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Anduin:

LoneShadow: Other things (like live TV) work though?

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LoneShadow:

yea

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LoneShadow:

just cant schedule recordings

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fer2:

why do I get "error was encountered while displaying video" ?!?

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fer2:

and then I can't change to another channel!?!?!?!

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fer2:

unless I go into setup and change "last channel" to another number!!!!

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jpanegasser:

can someonehelp me downgrade mysql 5 to 4?

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LoneShadow:

Anduin: did you get my message ?

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fer2:

How do I stop LiveTV recording ?

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jpanegasser:

can someonehelp me downgrade mysql 5 to 4? im running ubuntu and .18 and mysql 5 ansd i getting the error cause of the 'repeat' when trying to mythfilldatabase

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Cardoe:

jpanegasser: probably want to ask in #ubuntu

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LoneShadow:

you can "apt-get remove --purge mysql5.. name"

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LoneShadow:

and reinstall again ?

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LoneShadow:

thats the crude way :D

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jpanegasser:

loneshadow; how do i install 4 then?

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LoneShadow:

is it ubuntu dapper ?

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jpanegasser:

yes

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LoneShadow:

I am running mysql 5.0 on ubuntu dapper, this is my backend

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LoneShadow:

why do you want 4 ?

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jpanegasser:

i was getting errors when trying to run myth fill database

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Cardoe:

because he runs 0.18

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Cardoe:

0.18 doesn't work with 5

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jpanegasser:

yup

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Cardoe:

since 5 has new reserved keywords

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Cardoe:

and 0.18 used them as column names

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Cardoe:

and the code wasn't properly written

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Cardoe:

so it didn't escape names properly

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jpanegasser:

loneshadow: i take it your hunning 0.19

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LoneShadow:

yea

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jpanegasser:

from source?

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LoneShadow:

yea, compiled it from source

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LoneShadow:

I am not sure if this will work, its a lil messy

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LoneShadow:

you can uninstall mysql-5 first

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LoneShadow:

and then change your apt sources to point to breezy, and then install mysql-4

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LoneShadow:

some breezy packages dont work well on dapper

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jpanegasser:

so i did that. now im getting E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-4.1_4.1.15–1ubuntu5_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1

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jpanegasser:

i probably should just wait for the 0.19 package?

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LoneShadow:

or build 0.19 yourself :D

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LoneShadow:

if you have a fast machine, shouldnt take too long

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LoneShadow:

I can point you to a howto for ubuntu

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jpanegasser:

well i guess i got this far, thatd be great

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LoneShadow:

on ubuntu's forum some folks have built a 0.19 package for dapper

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LoneShadow:

you can search for mythtv, sometimes there site is down.

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jpanegasser:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194484 ?

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jpanegasser:

lonestar: i cant find the post with the package

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jpanegasser:

loneshawdow that is

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LoneShadow:

yea I had a tough time finding the package :D

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LoneShadow:

so I just compiled it

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LoneShadow:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186747

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jpanegasser:

thats the post ive been using

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jpanegasser:

im braindead, ive been doing this all weekend

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jpanegasser:

does it tell you how to compile from source in that thread?

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LoneShadow:

he points to http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html

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tank-man:

after installing the mythvideo plugin, how do i set it up?

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LoneShadow:

section 9.8 tells you how to compile

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jpanegasser:

cool, thanks man

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[Ex0r]:

Hi!

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jpanegasser:

loneshawdow: while comiling, i get this, /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt i searched for the package but nothing

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[Ex0r]:

Does mythtv allow you to install it in the linux root so that it loads up at bootup? (So that it goes right to mythtv) ?

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: You can do whatever you want, most people run it via auto-login.

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[Ex0r]:

trying to create a media center box for my cable that doesn't require a keyboard/monitor setup, and I can hook directly up to my tv

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[Ex0r]:

so that it acts like an actual DVR

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: apart from the noticeable boot, that is what many people want/have.

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[Ex0r]:

also, is there a list of compatible video capture cards ?

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tank-man:

exor, yes you can start it up on bootup

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: There are several, no main one that I'm aware of. The usual recommendation for SDTV is one of the Hauppauge X50 or 500 cards.

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[Ex0r]:

those are probably expensive, too.

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jpanegasser:

loneshadow: while comiling, i get this, /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt i searched for the package but nothing http://pastebin.ca/77489

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[Ex0r]:

I'm looking for a 30–40 dollar video capture card that works with it enough to be able to use the remote that comes with it to control mythtv

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LoneShadow:

did you install all the packages required for mythtv ?

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jpanegasser:

i thought i did

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Dagmar:

Well, you didn't. You left out Qt.

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LoneShadow:

apt-get build-dep mythtv

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LoneShadow:

did you type that ?

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tank-man:

exor, yea, you can use cheap cards

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jpanegasser:

no

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: The PVR150 cards are often found for aroun $60 USD

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LoneShadow:

see section 9.8 :D

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[Ex0r]:

OH! Does mythtv work with digital cable boxes? (Like the ones from comcast) ?

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LoneShadow:

http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: If the firewire port is enabled, yes, it can.

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sigger_:

hey guys. mythtv looks cool. I know this is kinda lame, but anyone know someone that sells a box (e.g. epia) already set up with mythtv. somewhat handy with linux/networking/media but it looks a little daunting.

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[Ex0r]:

firewire port? There isn'y one of those on my cable box. It's got coaxial and rca

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nosatalian:

Exor: you'll need some way to change the channel (IR blaster) but, yes, it will work

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: Yeah, the HD boxes would generally have a firewire port, if it were enabled you could record directly from the box (as long as it was supported).

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[Ex0r]:

Well, I can record to a vcr directly from the box

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[Ex0r]:

it's not HD, just digital cable

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sigger_:

[Ex0r]: go to your cable box's diagnostic page. it'll show you if firewire is enabled.

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nosatalian:

if you have a motorola comcast box, you may be able to change the channel over a serial cable

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[Ex0r]:

it's a texas instruments one

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: Yeah, which means you'll need a capture card, I'd recommend skipping whatever vice you have for a week to cover the cost difference between $40 and the PVR150.

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jpanegasser:

loneshadow: http://pastebin.ca/77490

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[Ex0r]:

Anduin, that's what I was going to get was a video capture card but I wanted to make sure that mythtv worked with digital boxes

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: Ah, ok, didn't know you'd moved on.

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[Ex0r]:

I have the remote to the comcast box, wouldn't that change the channel in mythtv ?

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LoneShadow:

jpanegasser: enable universe and multiverse

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LoneShadow:

jpanegasser: I have to go out now, if you still problems, check with #ubuntu or #xubuntu

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LoneShadow:

jpanegasser: enable universe and multiverse in your /etc/apt/sources.lst

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: No, you need a way to myth to change the channel.

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jpanegasser:

loneshadow: thanks for all your help

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[Ex0r]:

hmm... great, now I have to find a way to have mythtv interact with the comcast box so it can change the channel

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sigger_:

Not even a flame for attempting to take the wimpy way of buying product rather than build it? ;)

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nosatalian:

Exor: google IR blaster

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: That is what the serial/IR blaster talk was about.

[02:40:43]

[Ex0r]:

by sony ?

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[Ex0r]:

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/snap . . . 1902_1216995

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[Ex0r]:

rather, that

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[Ex0r]:

hmm, seems like a $200+ price

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: May want to throw mythtv in there for that search.

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Anduin:

sigger_: Easier to have some myth using friend build you one, there were a few attempts at something like that some time ago, not well received, not sure if they still exist.

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sigger_:

Anduin: thanks. hmm, no myth using friends (yet?) Hoping someone indicates interest in working with.

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Anduin:

sigger_: There may be some at your local LUG (this is not an endorsement of joining cults)

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Dagmar:

heh

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Brains:

Nothing wrong with a good cult...

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sigger_:

prolly out there, but just had 2nd kid so kinda hard to hunt down the help.

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: lies

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[Ex0r]:

you positive ?

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slacks:

anyone here ever installed a ATI HDTV Wonder on Myth?

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: Assuming you hook your cable box to your capture card, and use an IR blaster/serial/whatever, the capture card can record anything you would see on the TV. On demand would be annoying, but other than that... if it is just go to chanel 500, record, it is easy.

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[Ex0r]:

So it will record Starz, Hbo, and Cinemax no problem ?

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: As long as it is using the cable box to tune. Many people do exactly that, several times a day, every day.

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[Ex0r]:

ah, very nice :)

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[Ex0r]:

Anduin, is there any way to bypass the cable box completely? Or do I need the cable box to get the higher channels

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: Maybe, and yes.

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jpanegasser:

getting an error compiling can anyone help http://pastebin.ca/77499

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[Ex0r]:

doh, trying to get away from having two boxes :) Guess you have to give a little to get a little

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Dagmar:

jpanegasser: You need the freetype-devel package, or whatever gets you the _headers_ for the Freetype packaeg

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Dagmar:

Line 4 of your pastebin says it all

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jpanegasser:

thanks

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[Ex0r]:

now I gotta look up the system requirements

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[Ex0r]:

wondering if my old 500mhz would work fine

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: In most cases you will have analog channels before the cable box, so if that was enough you could do that. Much better to get the second box and let only myth use it (hide the remote, if you can hide it).

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[Ex0r]:

Anduin, i've got one digital cable box, by second I meant having a visible computer with my cable box, but I can always hide that behind my entertainment center with the IR box ontop of the TV

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: Ah, I looked too far into the future.

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[Ex0r]:

hmm.... where do you go to configure the mysql user/password mythtv uses ?

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[Ex0r]:

I found where you specify the ip address that mysql is on, but can't find out where to setup the use

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[Ex0r]:

user*

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Anduin:

[Ex0r]: ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt

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Dagmar:

You run mythtv-setup

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Dagmar:

It's the very first freaking thing you run to configure mythtv

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Dagmar:

THE very first thing it does is ask you about those

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[Ex0r]:

I ran that, didn't see anything in there for specifying username and password. Only ports and IP it uses.

[03:00:30]

[Ex0r]:

yeah, it did, but forgot what I set them to.

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slacks:

Does that make me craaazay?

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[Ex0r]:

okay wth... it says that the back-end server isn't running but it is

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[Ex0r]:

hmm, I take it you HAVE to have a video capture card installed in order to even get into mythtv

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Dagmar:

Please, read the documentation.

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jpanegasser:

dagmar: isnt this the package? http://pastebin.ca/77510 its marked in my package manager

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Dagmar:

jpanegasser: Then you better figure out where /usr/include/freetype/config/ftheader.h went to

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Dagmar:

You've managed to delete it somehow or something.

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Dagmar:

If #

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Dagmar:

If /usr/include/ft2build.h is looking for it, it's _definitely_ supposed to be there

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Dagmar:

Reinstall your freetype package if you have to

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[Ex0r]:

em... sorry again, but what is the livecd called for mythtv ?

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Anduin:

knoppmyth

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[Ex0r]:

thanks alot!

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[Ex0r]:

ick... it requires a username and password

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slacks:

not to download

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slacks:

anyone ever installed a ATI HDTV Wonder on myth?

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[Ex0r]:

to install there is

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slacks:

?

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slacks:

what do you mean?

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[Ex0r]:

http://knoppmythwiki.org/?id=KnoppMythInstall

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[Ex0r]:

read that

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slacks:

that is just for zap2it service

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slacks:

you will need that no matter how you install it

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slacks:

and it is free

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[Ex0r]:

i dont have zap2it service and ive got mythtv installed on this machine

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slacks:

where do you get lineup feeds from then?

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[Ex0r]:

I don't watch mythtv yet :) trying it out

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slacks:

you will need that either way, not just with knoppmyth]

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[Ex0r]:

i see. I just registered for it

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[Ex0r]:

I take it that means that the mythtv box needs to be connected to an internet source

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[Ex0r]:

hmm

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** [Ex0r] wonders if the mythtv backend has to have a video-capture device **

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GreyFoxx:

There is no reason to run the backend if you don't have a capture card/device

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Dagmar:

Why you're bothering with MythTV if you don't have a capture card is definitely one for the therapist

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[Ex0r]:

Dagmar, because some people aren't born knowing how to work every single application. Some people like to play around with them and get used to them before they go live with using them.

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Dagmar:

Most people actually have an idea of what an app is for before they try to use it

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[Ex0r]:

Knowing what it is, and how to use it are two different stories.

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Dagmar:

MythTV is pretty much useless if you dont' have a capture card, man. Recording TV is what it's for.

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GreyFoxx:

[Ex0r]: You don't need to run the backend if you don't have a tuner. You can use it later if you get one

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Dagmar:

Some people like to cut themselves, but I don't judge.

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[Ex0r]:

GreyFoxx, I was trying to figure out why they made a back-end and a front-end for it. It must be so that the front-end doesn't require a capture card.

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GreyFoxx:

[Ex0r]: Correct

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GreyFoxx:

plus you have have the backend on one machine

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GreyFoxx:

and serveral remote frontends on other machines

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[Ex0r]:

GreyFoxx, and I take it that the back-end sends the data to the front-ends through the network/internet ?

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GreyFoxx:

right

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[Ex0r]:

seems like that would be slower than having it all on one machine

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jpanegasser:

stuck compiling again, anyone? http://pastebin.ca/77519

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GreyFoxx:

there is a miniscule delay, but it's only really noticable if you have a slow network

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[Ex0r]:

Going to start looking for video capture cards now. Somebody said something about the PvR 500 card or something.

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GreyFoxx:

And even then it's usually jsut in the starting of the playback

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[Ex0r]:

wow.... 150 for the hauppage pvr 250

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GreyFoxx:

go for the 150

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GreyFoxx:

It's much cheaper

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Dagmar:

www.pricewatch.com

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GreyFoxx:

$69 or so USD

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[Ex0r]:

hmm, not bad at all

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Dagmar:

That's either not in USD or you're getting ripped the hell off

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Dagmar:

I didn't pay that much for my PVR-500

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[Ex0r]:

Dagmar, that's the price on the hauppage site

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[Ex0r]:

PVR-500-MCE

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Dagmar:

Again, www.pricewatch.com

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[Ex0r]:

pricewatch has the 500's for 130

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Dagmar:

Yes, because they're dual-tuner.

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Dagmar:

1 500 == 2 250's.

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[Ex0r]:

im lookin at the 150 right now

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Mrgoose:

hello

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jpanegasser:

i thought it was 2 150s

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[Ex0r]:

hmm I wonder if they have any cheaper cards that do the same thing

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Mrgoose:

when i do cat /dev/video0 > /mnt/test.mpg the file is 0kb

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Mrgoose:

like nothing is writing

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Anduin:

Mrgoose: time to dmesg

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Mrgoose:

?

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Mrgoose:

dmesg for what

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[Ex0r]:

damn, if I I don't put the back-end on the same as the front-end, it requires to cards. A capture card and a tv-out card.

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jpanegasser:

dagmar: stuck compiling again http://pastebin.ca/77519

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Mrgoose:

any ideas Anduin

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Dagmar:

jpanegasser: Install MythTV FIRST

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Cardoe:

jpanegasser: 1 500 is 2 150s

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Dagmar:

Follow the *directions*

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: So you've got words to say about the ebuild?

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jpanegasser:

i did

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Dagmar:

...and since you decide to use a /usr/local/mythtv-0.19 that nothing else uses, you get to read the output of ./configure and find the bit wot tells it about extra include directories

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Dagmar:

s/decide/decided/

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Dagmar:

Because just like the last time, line 37 says it all

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Dagmar:

That file is a part of MythTV

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Dagmar:

If you're not going to use a packaging system, then tryign to make up a new directory for sticking everything in to keep your filesystem "tidy" is not going to be helping you

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Dagmar:

It's going to cause FAR more problems than it solves

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: why don't we cool it with insulting new users?

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Cardoe:

jpanegasser: why are you trying to compile by hand?

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jpanegasser:

dapper mysql5

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Cardoe:

jpanegasser: why not switch to mythtv 0.19?

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jpanegasser:

im trying

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Cardoe:

there's packages

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jpanegasser:

where?

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Cardoe:

I haven't a clue

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Cardoe:

check the wiki

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[Ex0r]:

Hey guys, thanks alot for the help understanding how mythtv works

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Cardoe:

jpanegasser: no

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Cardoe:

either way... why use a desktop geared distro for a headless setup box rig... but either way

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Cardoe:

every distro has packages

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: got nada to say?

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Dagmar:

About what?

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jpanegasser:

cardoe: im doing a front.backend on the same box

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: your complaints about the gentoo ebuild

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Mrgoose:

arggh!

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Cardoe:

jpanegasser: ok...

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Cardoe:

jpanegasser: I have one of those too. it's my master box

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Dagmar:

Abotu the only complains I have about Gentoo's ebuilds are the usual. People keep saying "I should check my USE flags" over something that would have worked in the vanilla source

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jpanegasser:

cardoe: i have no idea where to find mythtv 0.19 ubuntu package

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Dagmar:

That tells me that the package definitions still need work if they're actually breaking things, or not warning the user if they've specified something that would otherwise be considered foolish

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: unfortunately automagical depends are not the GEntoo way.

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: such as... make a suggestion

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Dagmar:

I got my own packages to worry about

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[Ex0r]:

hmm, somethings wrong with my mythtv backend.. I can't run mythtv-backend from init.d cause it gives me an error

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: So then if you've got nothing to contribute.. keep it to yourself.

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Mrgoose:

when i do cat /dev/video0 > /mnt/test.mpg the file is 0kb , like nothing is being written any ideas?

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Dagmar:

No

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[Ex0r]:

GreyFoxx, does the back-end, or the front-end record the video ?

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Cardoe:

Mrgoose: it stops right away?

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Cardoe:

[Ex0r]: back

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Mrgoose:

Cardoe: no it doesn't stop

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Mrgoose:

doesn't stop until i ctrl+c

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Cardoe:

Mrgoose: any errors in dmesg?

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: what defaults would you like to see

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Mrgoose:

such as?

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Dagmar:

Gentoo is not *my* problem, and since I haven't even mentioned or been in a discussion involving them in at least 24 hours, you should probably quit trying to start a fight

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: unfortunately you have

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: Exactly 24hrs ago

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Dagmar:

I'm going to put you *back* on ignore where you very obviously belong.

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Cardoe:

ok champ

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[Ex0r]:

Cardoe, you know what the error 'Authentication Rejected' is caused from when running /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start ?

[03:59:11]

Cardoe:

[Ex0r]: are you running selinux or something?

[03:59:16]

Cardoe:

[Ex0r]: what distro

[03:59:19]

[Ex0r]:

nope

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[Ex0r]:

ubuntu

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Cardoe:

[Ex0r]: did you use packages?

[03:59:41]

[Ex0r]:

yeah

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Cardoe:

[Ex0r]: what version?

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[Ex0r]:

sudo apt-get install mythtv

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Dagmar:

The *only* thing I'm going to say on the subject is that if something has a feature that would be considered "essential" to the way the packager wants it to function, it should by default be called for by configure so that if at all possible, the build will immediately fail if that functionality can't be included.

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jpanegasser:

cardoe: i have no idea where to find mythtv 0.19 ubuntu package

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Cardoe:

[Ex0r]: 0.18 or 0.19?

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: I thought you were done talking already?

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Cardoe:

Dagmar: Aren't you a Gentoo user?

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[Ex0r]:

Cardoe, how do you find out?

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Cardoe:

I dunno with apt-get

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[Ex0r]:

you can't do like a mythtv -v ?

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[Ex0r]:

0.18

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Mrgoose:

hello

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[Ex0r]:

the apt repository came back 0.18

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Cardoe:

No idea what to tell you guys

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Cardoe:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu

[04:03:17]

Cardoe:

the guides there might help a little

[04:03:26]

Cardoe:

auth error for starting the backend is something Ubuntu specific

[04:03:57]

jpanegasser:

just for breezy, no dapper

[04:04:06]

Mrgoose:

Cardoe: http://pastebin.ca/77529

[04:04:09]

Mrgoose:

thats part of my dmesg

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[Ex0r]:

I think i'm going to remove the apt and try installing from source

[04:04:13]

Cardoe:

well it might have some applicable stuff

[04:05:04]

Cardoe:

Mrgoose: whoa... you've having some funky issues there.

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Mrgoose:

:(

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Mrgoose:

any ideas?

[04:05:21]

Cardoe:

Mrgoose: basically your not getting video cause something is screwing up the DMA transfer

[04:05:27]

Cardoe:

probably the hdh device

[04:05:41]

Cardoe:

then you're getting filesystem errors

[04:05:45]

Cardoe:

that drive is going out

[04:05:53]

Mrgoose:

hmm

[04:06:11]

Mrgoose:

thats my most important drive

[04:06:15]

Mrgoose:

you really think its dying?

[04:06:34]

Cardoe:

what drive is that?

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Mrgoose:

its a 250gb drive with all my information on it

[04:07:01]

Cardoe:

I would get my info off like yesterday

[04:07:07]

Mrgoose:

sigh

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Dagmar:

Mrgoose: Run smartctl on it *now* dude

[04:07:26]

Mrgoose:

so you think its boinking my video input?

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Dagmar:

Those are not trivial error messages

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Cardoe:

100%

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Cardoe:

you're trying to write the video to that drive right?

[04:07:53]

Dagmar:

...and/or don't buy Maxtor again and/or put a fan on the drive

[04:07:57]

Mrgoose:

what does smartctls do

[04:08:08]

Mrgoose:

Cardoe: no, its my storage drive

[04:08:10]

Mrgoose:

not for mythtv though

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Dagmar:

http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

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Cardoe:

gets S.M.A.R.T. data from the drive

[04:08:26]

Dagmar:

It lets you poll the drive to see what it's built-in diagnostics have to say for itself.

[04:08:44]

Mrgoose:

hmm

[04:08:53]

Dagmar:

The drive is just going to get worse, not better, from this point on.

[04:08:54]

slacks:

Anyone setup a ATI HDTV Wonder on myth?

[04:09:06]

Dagmar:

You will just be losing more data by ignoring it

[04:09:07]

Mrgoose:

so i should get my data off then replace the drive huh

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Dagmar:

No, I'm saying ask the drive what's wrong with it, using smartctl

[04:09:28]

Dagmar:

it can tell you

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Mrgoose:

ok

[04:09:40]

Dagmar:

It *might* be that it's just overheating, although it's rather likely it's just dying

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Dagmar:

Check that website out as well. It's a bit of a hassle, but setting up the S.M.A.R.T. tools they way they talk about can let you know about a drive failure *before* it happens

[04:10:29]

[Ex0r]:

Cardoe, just for reference, this is the error i was getting. Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed

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Cardoe:

Something broken with your PAM

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[Ex0r]:

seems to be a very common problem for breezy

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Mrgoose:

:( im sad now

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Dagmar:

Drives fail. It happens.

[04:13:03]

Mrgoose:

i think its still under warranty

[04:13:08]

Mrgoose:

i'll send it off tomorrow

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Dagmar:

...but now you know that you really will be upset if a significant amount of data goes away all at once.

[04:13:33]

Dagmar:

They won't take it back unless you've run the manufacturer's diagnostics tools on it

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Mrgoose:

how can you all tell its dying from that data

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[Ex0r]:

Mrgoose, if it's a maxtor, pay the 76 bucks or whatever it is and they will recover the data for you

[04:13:55]

Mrgoose:

[Ex0r]: data still works

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Dagmar:

#

[04:13:58]

Dagmar:

hdh: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }

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Dagmar:

#

[04:13:59]

Dagmar:

hdh: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=61278015, high=3, low= 10946367, sector=61277952

[04:14:06]

Dagmar:

Those two lines repeated over and over.

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Mrgoose:

oh

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Dagmar:

"UncorrectableError" is pretty serious wording, don't you think?

[04:14:30]

Mrgoose:

yes

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Dagmar:

That and i've seen it beofre.

[04:14:51]

Mrgoose:

Dagmar: you dont have to run diagonstics to get a RMA

[04:14:57]

Dagmar:

...even if I can't type worth beans tonight.

[04:15:03]

Dagmar:

Yeah, but you do have to run them.

[04:15:14]

Mrgoose:

that must be new

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[Ex0r]:

Mrgoose, incorrect. Maxtor won't send an RMA without a diag #

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riddler:

anyone running ivtv drivers with a pvr-500?

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Dagmar:

riddler: Yes

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jpanegasser:

stuck compiling again http://pastebin.ca/77519

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[Ex0r]:

they wanna make sure it wasn't something YOU did to it

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riddler:

Dagmar, do you have the fm tuner working?

[04:16:07]

Mrgoose:

oh

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Mrgoose:

Dagmar: so would these errors show up on the diagnostic thing?

[04:16:25]

[Ex0r]:

if you have a credit card, you can get a free one sent to you and you send yours in to them

[04:16:39]

Dagmar:

riddler: I've not bothered yet, actually. It's on my list of TODO's but no one's made a workable app to drive it under MythTV so it's not a priority

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[Ex0r]:

Mrgoose, download the Maxtor Smart-Drive tool from maxtor.com

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[Ex0r]:

and run it

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riddler:

Dagmar,there is the radio app?

[04:17:07]

Dagmar:

You need an application to use the tuner, dude

[04:17:15]

Dagmar:

Just like you needed something like Myth to watch TV

[04:17:19]

riddler:

Dagmar, yes radio is the name of it

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Dagmar:

Well, how thoughtful of them to have given it such a pointless name

[04:18:26]

riddler:

Dagmar, the weird thing is that in knoppmyth it works great, but when I compile everything it never works

[04:19:24]

Dagmar:

I don't consider mythfm or mythradio to be acceptable

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riddler:

I havent tried them

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Dagmar:

One of them is apparently incomplete yet and the other does something I loathe... it makes the tuner into an item in mythaudio's playlist

[04:20:26]

Dagmar:

...which is about as awkward as it can possibly be, while at the same time being incredibly useless.

[04:20:50]

Dagmar:

A live stream doesn't make sense in a playlist

[04:21:03]

Dagmar:

Items in a playlist have an end to them, for one thing

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riddler:

lol

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Mrgoose:

Dagmar: its a linux drive though

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Dagmar:

LInux makes drives now?

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Mrgoose:

ha

[04:22:27]

Mrgoose:

i mean it has linux on it

[04:22:34]

Mrgoose:

is the maxtor thing windows

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Dagmar:

The maxtor thing is a bootable floppy

[04:22:53]

[Ex0r]:

Mrgoose, – it's a floppy tool

[04:22:56]

Mrgoose:

ahh

[04:22:57]

Mrgoose:

got cha

[04:22:58]

[Ex0r]:

you put it on a floppy

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Dagmar:

>..and if you don't have a floppy drive you can run the version that's on www.ultimatebootcd.com

[04:23:36]

[Ex0r]:

hm... what the hell.. mythtv is really messed up on the ubuntu distro

[04:24:16]

Mrgoose:

im so sad heh

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Mrgoose:

Dagmar: so if it was overheating , would cooling it now make it better or its already too late

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[Ex0r]:

Mrgoose, it's already done for. Get it fixed now before the data becomes unrecoverable

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Dagmar:

Mrgoose: Cooling would make it stop screwing up, and you'd probably have to use that diagnostics tool to get it to realize the sectors it decided were fried aren't really fried

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[Ex0r]:

Next time, let it get proper ventilation. (Don't squeeze it in between a bunch of stuff (usually about 2" of space between it and other devices), and cool it off)

[04:28:25]

Dagmar:

Either way, asking questions isn't going to affect your drive. Run the manufacturer's diagnotics tool.

[04:28:50]

Dagmar:

I just go ahead and spend the $5 for one of those metal things with two fans to strap on the bottom of them

[04:29:05]

Dagmar:

The cost of a dedicated cooler compared to the cost of the drive is laughables

[04:29:10]

Dagmar:

s/s/./;

[04:29:44]

Dagmar:

Sales-tax is typically more.

[04:30:28]

[Ex0r]:

I'm lucky enough to have a hard-drive compartment in my case that comes with a cooling station on it

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[Ex0r]:

grr, the fricking source won't even install on ubuntu

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scales:

anyone awake?

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scales:

i got two quick questions

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scales:

make that one question

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scales:

well two quick ones

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scales:

hello?

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scales:

anyone use xine and lirc?

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Anduin:

scales: much easier to just ask and see

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[Ex0r]:

grr, fuck this. It's way much more trouble than it's worth.

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scales:

ok well

[05:13:55]

scales:

i added the xine commands to an already working lircrc file

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scales:

and i copied the lircrc file to /home/user, and /home/user/.xine/

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scales:

and xine does not respond to my controls

[05:14:46]

scales:

myth does

[05:16:15]

scales:

so i am stumped

[05:16:25]

scales:

i can post my lircrc file if anyone will look at it

[05:19:42]

Dagmar:

Hey, light dawns at last

[05:20:09]

scales:

no light here

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scales:

gettin late

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scales:

dagmar, mind giving me your opinion

[05:20:40]

scales:

i added the xine commands to an already working lircrc file

[05:20:46]

scales:

and i copied the lircrc file to /home/user, and /home/user/.xine/

[05:20:56]

scales:

and xine does not respond to my controls

[05:21:03]

scales:

myth does

[05:21:09]

scales:

but not xine

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jhatch:

Hey, can someone help me with mythdvd? It doesn't seem to want to work right.

[05:21:29]

scales:

what are you using jhatch? xine or mplayer

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jhatch:

mplayer, but that isn't really of concern... it plays fine, just won't rip. won't even start.

[05:22:07]

scales:

humm, i see

[05:22:21]

jhatch:

Says the following:

[05:22:35]

scales:

i dunno, but i prefer xine, for me, it worked better. i got audio sync problems with mplayer

[05:22:51]

jhatch:

"No jobs and nothing else to do. You can press 0 to rip a DVD"

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jhatch:

However, this is after pressing 0 to start the rip...

[05:23:34]

jhatch:

<shrug>

[05:24:06]

jhatch:

I like xine too, by the way, but I haven't had too many sync problems with mplayer.

[05:24:12]

scales:

humm i dunno

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jhatch:

according to all the google results, ripping seems to just work for everyone else... I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

[05:26:08]

scales:

humm, well sorry am not one to ask. generally i do the asking

[05:26:25]

scales:

prob best to wait about 12 hours and ask some who knows what they are doing

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jhatch:

That's okay. Somehow I'm hoping the person to ask is in here at this time, reading my messages and at the moment conjuring up a fix. :)

[05:27:18]

Anduin:

scales: xine reads from ~/.lircrc, most people symlink ~/.mythtv/lircrc to ~/.lircrc and throw the xine/mplayer stuff in ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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Anduin:

jhatch: kill mtd, run mtd -n at the prompt, you should see it find your DVD and print out title info.

[05:28:04]

jhatch:

I'll probably just ask my friend. he's a bit of a myth enthusiast.

[05:28:11]

jhatch:

okay.

[05:28:30]

scales:

humm, let me try and make a .lircrc copy in my /user/

[05:28:35]

scales:

that should work?

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Anduin:

scales: Yes.

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Anduin:

(though a copy is the lame way)

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scales:

hehe why?

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scales:

bingo!

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scales:

thanks Anduin

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jhatch:

Anduin, it does find the DVD and print the title info just fine.

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Anduin:

jhatch: Ok, so not touching that, go to the frontend and try again.

[05:30:02]

jhatch:

Oooh, I think I got it!

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scales:

Anduin: what is the proper way?

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Anduin:

jhatch: Now you just need to find out why it didn't just work before.

[05:30:20]

jhatch:

It printed the following when I tried the transcode again:

[05:30:26]

jhatch:

bad destination directory in job request: job dvd 1 1 -1 0 -1 /video/videos/TSE0NNM1

[05:30:28]

jhatch:

:)

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Anduin:

scales: the symlink is easier (one file to edit/remember)

[05:30:47]

Anduin:

jhatch: Yeah, that sucks, give it a valid one.

[05:31:01]

jhatch:

mkdir videos..... :)

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Mrgoose:

hello

[05:31:23]

Mrgoose:

i ran maxblast

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jhatch:

yay, it's working now....

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scales:

thank you gentlemen goodnight

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xris:

Anduin: how much do you know about qmake?

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Anduin:

xris: I have to look almost everything about it up.

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xris:

lol

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xris:

ok

[05:37:22]

xris:

sounds like everyone else, too.

[05:37:46]

Anduin:

The basic stuff is easy, for your perl thing, well if I had a good suggestion I would have said something.

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xris:

well, in concept it's a piece of cake.. during "make" you run "perl Makefile.PL"

[05:39:17]

xris:

er, during configure.

[05:39:21]

xris:

then it's just make and make install

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xris:

If it was just a makefile, I could do it fairly easily.. but the qmake stuff really just confuses me.

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Anduin:

Yeah, I'm not sure about adding a new target type really. The qmake make a make thing with very little control is irritating.

[05:43:08]

xris:

thought maybe I could just put a Makefile into bindings/ and then tell mythtv.pro to expect one to be there.. but don't know how to do that, either. heh

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Anduin:

xris: At the bottom of this page is what I'd use to do it (basically allows you to have qmake make your Makefile with whatever): http://doc.trolltech.com/3.2/qmake-manual-7.html

[06:04:14]

xris:

the "customizing" bit?

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Anduin:

Yeah.

[06:04:31]

xris:

I couldn't figure that stuff out

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Anduin:

My perl module fu is weak and ancient, give me a sec

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xris:

the perl stuff is all set up

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Mrgoose:

think i could get a 9gb file to 1gb with good quality/

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xris:

Mrgoose: depends on what's in the 9g file

[06:12:09]

Mrgoose:

oh

[06:12:15]

Mrgoose:

mpeg2 captured from mythtv

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Mrgoose:

wwwwhat is this mythmkmovie?

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xris:

again... is it a 24 hour long recording, or 55 minutes of 1080i?

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Mrgoose:

its a baskttball game

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Mrgoose:

standard res

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xris:

well, for one, cut out the commercials

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xris:

or have you done that already?

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Mrgoose:

nah

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Mrgoose:

not yet

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xris:

that should take out about 14–16 minutes per hour

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Mrgoose:

you know anything about mythmkmovie

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xris:

nope

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Mrgoose:

oh

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xris:

Mrgoose: how long is the recording? (with commercials)

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Mrgoose:

umm 3 hours

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xris:

if you remove the commercials and use the two-pass xvid method with nuvexport, you should be able to get it to just over 1G with the default settings, and that'd be decent quality.

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Mrgoose:

yea i haven't been able to get nuvexport to work ever

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xris:

what distro?

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Mrgoose:

slackware

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xris:

hmm, you may be on your own there... will need to compile ffmpeg and/or transcode with all of the appropriate flags. lots of dependencies, etc.

[06:20:48]

Mrgoose:

yea

[06:21:18]

xris:

that's going to be your best option.

[06:22:51]

Mrgoose:

you know where i can get the perl curses module?

[06:23:03]

xris:

why do you need that?

[06:23:08]

Mrgoose:

for mythmkmovie

[06:23:19]

xris:

last I checked, it was seriously broken (which is why I didn't use it for nuvexport)

[06:23:24]

Mrgoose:

ahh

[06:23:25]

Mrgoose:

ok

[06:23:36]

xris:

it should be in cpan if it's not part of the distro perl, though

[06:28:32]

d3ity:

hey guys

[06:28:34]

d3ity:

quick question

[06:28:48]

d3ity:

how do I clear out all my program guide info and reset it, rerunning mythfilldatabase isn't working out

[06:29:03]

xris:

DELETE FROM program; DELETE FROM channel;

[06:29:16]

d3ity:

mysql?

[06:29:17]

xris:

then rerun fill

[06:29:18]

xris:

yes

[06:30:12]

d3ity:

will I need to restart the backend or frontend?

[06:30:22]

xris:

shouldn't

[06:30:25]

d3ity:

k

[06:30:29]

xris:

mythfilldatabase tells the backend to reload

[06:30:31]

d3ity:

i'll know in a moment

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Goose-BA:

does anyone know what this error could mean?

[06:38:15]

Goose-BA:

ivtv: giving up waiting for DMA pending clear

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Anduin:

xris: I'm looking it up right now, but do you know an easy way to have perl Makefile.PL generate a file other than Makefile?

[06:42:32]

xris:

Anduin: no clue... those tools are pretty much designed for make.

[06:43:36]

Anduin:

xris: Yeah, I'd still be using make, just the qmake Makefile and the perl one are in the same dir, and for things to work the same (single qmake call, then make), well, the perl one can't just overwrite the qmake one.

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xris:

hmm

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xris:

ick

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Anduin:

Yup, on the bright side, apart from building from parent, it isn't that bad.

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xris:

was hoping to not have any qt stuff in the perl directory... for simplicity's sake... just have the parent makefile call the child

[06:45:39]

Anduin:

xris: Not even a tiny perl.pro file? Much easier to have a bindings.pro subdirs one above.

[06:46:22]

xris:

honestly, I'd be happy with anything that works

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xris:

so far, no one has had a clue how to deal with the perl files, and we'll need the same kind of thing for python bindings if anyone ever writes them

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Anduin:

xris: few more things I'd like to clean up, I'll e-mail it to you tomorrow.

[07:17:20]

xris:

cool, thx

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xris:

speaking of which, I think you still have an outstanding patch for the freqid/atscsrcid thing to commit, too

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xris:

anyway, I'm crashing. will catch up with you tomorrow.

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kavorka^:

can someone tell me what logs i need to look at to determine if xvmc is running or not on my pc?

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Juski:

run xdpyinfo

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Juski:

grep for Compensation

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fridge:

is there a way to reencode a recording that will cut out the edited portions of a recording?

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kavorka^:

Juski, thanks ill give that a try now

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Juski:

transcode it, and if it has a cutlist, the sections outside the cutlist will be missing from the new file

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fridge:

Juski: oh, I didn't think it did that

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fridge:

that is cool if it does

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fridge:

I'll re try it

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fridge:

I think I tried doing that a fair while ago and it didn't seem to do anything

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fatmatt:

is there a way to get transcode to output a dvd compatible file?

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JustWilliam:

hi guys i have a problem.

[12:59:22]

JustWilliam:

recorded programs are not showing in the watch recording section

[13:00:24]

Sebulba02:

that's pretty weird, are you sure it's recording? (IE: have you seen the files on the filesystem)

[13:00:52]

JustWilliam:

yep there are on the hardrive

[13:01:19]

JustWilliam:

it also shows up on the auto expire list on the system information in myth tv

[13:03:11]

LLyric:

Anyone using http://immir.com/tv_grab_au ?

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Sebulba02:

JustWilliam: uhh, that's pretty weird..

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Sebulba02:

I have no idea, since I'm not a myth-hacker

[13:04:55]

Neeesat25:

Hello to all

[13:05:41]

Neeesat25:

Is there any step by step instructions how to setup my DVB-S NEXUS card in mythtv? I get failed opening dvb device

[13:07:12]

Merlin83b:

JustWilliam: Might be worth checking the recording group they're going in and which one you're looking at in watch recordings.

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LLyric:

Neeesat25: what kind of failed? permission denied?

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Neeesat25:

I am using the new v4l-dvb drivers

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LLyric:

or no such file?

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Neeesat25:

no such file

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Neeesat25:

I have try also the channel scan within mythtv-setup and I got: Fail to open the card

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LLyric:

Slow down

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LLyric:

First you need to get the hardware working properly, before mythtv has ANY chance of working

[13:12:31]

LLyric:

mythtv isn't magic, it's just an app

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JustWilliam:

Merlin83b: how do u do that

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LLyric:

You need the module loaded, detecting your hardware, and creating the /dev/ devices

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Merlin83b:

JustWilliam: Look in setup or something :-)

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** Merlin83b never knows how to do anything in MythTV unless he's sat in front of it. **

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Neeesat25:

my hardware module is loaded

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LLyric:

Did you check dmesg for comments about what it's doing?

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Neeesat25:

I will check now

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** LLyric tries to get his head around how to configure the same channel being available on multiple channels, on multiple tuners **

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Neeesat25:

I can see videodev loaded ok

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Neeesat25:

What kind of dev devices I have to create?

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onetwo:

neesat25: does lsmod list cx88_blackbird?

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JustWilliam:

Merlin83b: ive sorted it i accedntly changed the catagory to view LOL! thanks for your help

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Juski:

phew it's damn hot again. too hot to have a cold :-/

[13:38:12]

JustWilliam:

lol

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JustWilliam:

i work in a supermarket partime and i had custmers cumin up to me saying how cool it was inside and i was there sweating.

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Neeesat25:

Is cx88_blackbird the module for haupauge nexus dvb-s?

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Merlin83b:

Juski: Was just outside and the thermometer outside Portland Tower ways 31C.

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Juski:

I can believe that.

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Merlin83b:

Um, says.

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Merlin83b:

Not ways.

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Juski:

did you enjoy the storm last night, Merlin83b?

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** LLyric kicks his dvb stuff in the nads **

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LLyric:

It can scan and everything, but.... is all jerky and gets messages about DMA dying

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Merlin83b:

Juski: Oh my god that was a lot of rain.

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janneg:

Neeesat25: no, it's dvb-ttpci

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Merlin83b:

I got home about 2 minutes before the heavens opened. Awesome timing.

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Juski:

was reboot central here. I think I'll get the myth server a UPS for its birthday

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Neeesat25:

janneg: Do you use the latest drivers?

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Neeesat25:

Cause I have just install them and the device name is v4l1_compat and v4l2_common

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Neeesat25:

Those two have loaded succsefully

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janneg:

Neeesat25: no, plain 2.6.17. but I'm 100% sure that the modules haven't changed

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janneg:

and the nexus is also a v4l device. You can capture the output of the mpeg decoder

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Merlin83b:

Juski: Your LRL speech going to be encoded and available afterwards?

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Juski:

Merlin83b: speech? demo!

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Juski:

it's on the main stage, so I presume so (eek)

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Merlin83b:

Heh, well is that going to be?

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Merlin83b:

Just that you're not listed in the schedule.

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Juski:

my demo is on the sunday sometime

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Merlin83b:

Ah, "the hour of power – short demos of cool stuff"

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Juski:

should have shaken off the cobwebs by then I hope

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Merlin83b:

:-)

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Neeesat25:

janneg: Ok I have load dvb-ttpci devices but still I get canot open device

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mgi:

hey.. does anyone know how to get rid of single lines of video being out of sync? kinda hard to explain.. only happens when i'm in 1920x1200

[14:34:19]

mgi:

not sure what to search for which is why i came here..

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mgi:

it looks like it's drawing say 10 lines of video, then one line with the horizontal offset by some amount

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janneg:

Neeesat25: anything in dmesg?

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mgi:

nothing unusual

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mgi:

everything works fine as before, it's smooth etc. but it just looks weird

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mgi:

even if you have a vague idea for search terms that'd be useful

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Neeesat25:

janneg: videodev: "SAA7146A" has no release callback. Please fix your driver for proper

[14:44:02]

Neeesat25:

sysfs support, see http://lwn.net/Articles/36850/

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mgi:

oh you weren't talking to me about dmesg, you were talking to Neeesat25 .. oops

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janneg:

mgi: no, sorry

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janneg:

Neeesat25: that isn't fatal

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janneg:

can you paste some lines surrounding this message

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Neeesat25:

videodev: "SAA7146A" has no release callback. Please fix your driver for proper

[14:51:53]

Neeesat25:

sysfs support, see http://lwn.net/Articles/36850/

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Neeesat25:

stradis0: config = 00 03 13 c2 26 0f ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff f

[14:51:53]

Neeesat25:

f ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff

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Neeesat25:

ff ff ff ff

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Neeesat25:

saa7146: register extension 'dvb'.

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psofa:

hey Juski

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janneg:

Neeesat25: a little bit more and please use pastebin.ca or something similar

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Neeesat25:

ok

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Neeesat25:

janneg I have posted some more of my dmesg in pastebin.ca as neeesat25

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slacks:

Anyone ever install ATI HDTV Wonder on myth?

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geemark:

I have problems installing IVTV – i get this when compiling kernel modules: "WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.16.20/ivtv/ivtv.ko needs unknown symbol tveeprom_read" – any clues?

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janneg:

Neeesat25: please paste the url

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Neeesat25:

janneg: http://pastebin.ca/77893

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Juski:

hey psofa. how's it going?

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Juski:

hell's bells. 34'C in here, and that's with only 2 pcs on

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gardengnome:

re

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gardengnome:

Juski: yo :) got zenslack & mythtv up and running. it's rather painless.

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janneg:

Neeesat25: the card isn't autodetected, I don't know why?

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Juski:

heh. apart from it using svn :-)

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gardengnome:

Juski: how did you enable RGB out?

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gardengnome:

Juski: -fixes.

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gardengnome:

Juski: works fine in my 0.19 setup :)

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Juski:

-fixes? coolio!

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psofa:

Juski, 23C here with rains.I can have all pc's on with no air conditioning :)

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Neeesat25:

hmm

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gardengnome:

Juski: yep. you've got to edit some .xml files because the TV menu entries are commented out by default

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gardengnome:

watching TV now over wlan :)

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janneg:

Neeesat25: can you paste the output of lspci -nv

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D-side:

Cardoe: you around?

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Juski:

gardengnome: set the id 14 = line in system.pcf to say "id 14 = 4" for YPrPb to enable RGB output. Then use pcf2iegd to make the bin file :-)

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gardengnome:

Juski: awesome, thanks.

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Juski:

must give zenslack another go then... reinventing the wheel is for chumps ;-)

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LoneShadow:

"2006-07–03 05:18:29.387 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times.

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gardengnome:

Juski: hehe, yep. be careful, though. in /etc/rc.d/rc.local (from the mythtv plugin), it'll create a large swapfile and possibly fill up your disk. you might have to adjust that.

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Juski:

it doesn't need a swapfile does it?

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D-side:

i really dont think i want to bump ivtv up from 0.4.5 to 0.6.3, provided nothing's broken.

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LoneShadow:

I get lot of these prebuffer messages, and the recorded video dosnt play on frontend

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LoneShadow:

anyone know what is causing it ?

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D-side:

i really need to work on the whole "if it ain't broke don't fix it" problem i've got.

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gardengnome:

Juski: looked fine when i experimented with gentoo.

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gardengnome:

Juski: it was using like 63mb.

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Neeesat25:

janneg: http://pastebin.ca/77915

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gardengnome:

memory usage might increase after some time, though :)

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gardengnome:

Juski: do we need deinterlacing filters?

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Juski:

yup

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gardengnome:

:/

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LoneShadow:

anyone know anything about Prebuffer problems ?

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Juski:

gardengnome: I can play recordings & stuff with no swapfile. it's only when I try to use the guide that it runs into problems

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gardengnome:

mythweb for teh win, then.

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D-side:

i dont think i've ever used the menu system to set a recording, personally.

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gardengnome:

hrm. now i've got some system.pcf files, but i don't know which one is currently used.

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gardengnome:

D-side: i did it once. i think. might have been a dream.

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Juski:

gardengnome: how did you install zenslack then? I mean do you have a boot partition, or just all one.. and what size storage did you use?

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gardengnome:

Juski: bought a 512mb usb stick today, made one partition (bootable), mkfs.ext3 (been told ext2 is better for flash), extracted zenslack and the patches, edited lilo.conf (s/hda/sda/), edited fstab, ran zenslacks' lilo (/mnt/sbin/lilo -r /mnt/); done.

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gardengnome:

Juski: the mythtv plugin uses quite a lot of space. you don't have to use the install scripts, just install the tarballs you needed.

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janneg:

Neeesat25: no idea what's wrong. your subsystem id is in drivers/media/dvb/ttpci/av7110.c.

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geemark:

I get the message "ivtv0: Initialized Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350, card #0" when I boot up – but why doesn't /dev/video0 exist then?

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Neeesat25:

Ok janneg I will have to play with it a bit to see what is wrong

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mgi:

hey is anyone here using a 24" dell with mythtv?

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mgi:

in 1920x1200

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janneg:

Neeesat25: try first the in kernel drivers. Your card is supported a zery long time

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Neeesat25:

ok thanks

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Juski:

gardengnome: as much as that eh? 512MB? so it's not gonna fit on a 128MB stick then...

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gardengnome:

Juski: 128mb will work for zenslack (probably), but not with mythtv installed on top.

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tank-man:

fit what?

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gardengnome:

tank-man: a file system :)

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gardengnome:

Juski: at first, i was disappointed with the RGB output. then i thought i should just use the right scart connector on the s100.

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Juski:

gardengnome: did they include mythbrowser & stuff? I could take them out

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Juski:

heh

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gardengnome:

Juski: it's totally awesome!!!!!

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gardengnome:

omg

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Juski:

it rocketh

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gardengnome:

Juski: umm. dunno. you could delete xine and stuff.

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Juski:

pity about having to deinterlace

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Juski:

nah I can't delete xine.. kinda need that

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Juski:

mplayer though... ;-)

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gardengnome:

it comes with some 3mbyte worth of kde libs, but i don't remember deleting mythbrowser. but that doesn't mean anything :)

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gardengnome:

Juski: umm, i don't deinterlace.

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gardengnome:

Juski: though i've seen people in the zenega forums complain...

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Juski:

ugh. having to do housework when you're off sick from work stinks

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gardengnome:

get better soon :)

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Merlin83b:

Or use the time to work on your s100 stuff :-)

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Juski:

how the hell do you get a cold in summer is what I wanna know

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Merlin83b:

On account of "cold" being a poor name for it :-)

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gardengnome:

air condition in the car? ;)

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kormoc:

Juski, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold

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Juski:

"The "cloud" is partly invisible and falls at a rate slow enough to last for hours".. zoiks

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Juski:

so you don't even have to be anywhere near the guy who brought it to work.. I better stay off til the sniffles have all gone then ;-)

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kormoc:

hehe, aye

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Juski:

bugger. where are the zenslack mythtv files?

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Juski:

nm getting it now

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stephelton:

my mythbackend says its been started but when i try to run mythtv it tells me it can't connect. i'm running both on the same machine... when i try to stop the mythbackend service it tells me the proces id can't be found...

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scales:

so who uses the mce remote?

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Neeesat25:

Ok I have fix my card. Whats the best way to scan for channels for dvb-s?

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onetwo:

neeesat25, what are you pointing at?

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janneg:

Neeesat25: what was it?

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Neeesat25:

stradis module was loading for my nexus card before dvb-ttpci module

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Neeesat25:

I have compile stradis ny mistake

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Neeesat25:

I have remove stradis and reopen dvb-ttpci and all loaded ok

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spiderworm:

hey all i have mythtv working, was working perfectly in arizona, just moved to washington and have a different cable company here.... there's this weird problem where some channels come in fine on the tv regularly, but going through mythtv it's all static..... anyone know what could be causing this?

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scales:

so anyone using mce remote, or joysticks?

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Neeesat25:

janneg: What is the easiest way to scan for channels? By using the mythtv-setup internal scanner?

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xris:

scales: mce, yes.. but you knew that.

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xris:

scales: did you use the proper button names when you copied in the xine config?

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xris:

Neeesat25: built-in is pretty much the only way.

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Juski:

oh fack. mythweb isn't working. infact, apache isn't working :-/

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Juski:

the directories & files are all there, but my browser is giving me 404

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Neeesat25:

hmm I will have to read some setting instractions cause even I have add my card it still saying "failed to open the card"

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xris:

Neeesat25: run as root or fix the permissions on the dvb device

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xris:

Juski: mod_rewrite?

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Juski:

fuck! worse than that!

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kayelem:

Juski, remind me to sort out my UPS and some filters. Shut everything down when the storm last night got too close. *five* machines have failed to come back up properly.

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D-side:

uh oh

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D-side:

looks like Juski's not having a good day.

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kayelem:

I shoulda left everything on and crossed my fingers...

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scales:

xris: it works fine, i just wanted to try that repeat function

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Juski:

well at least I know why stuff isn't found now... but how the hell it changed is a mystery

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j2^:

RIght.. I've taken delivery of my PVR-500... But frankly.. The weather is too nice for installing it :)

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Juski:

might have to block port 80 for a while

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scales:

ps i just wanted to know if anyone who used the remote were active

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D-side:

Juski: oh no.

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Juski:

gentoo's apache home by default is /var/www/localhost/htdocs

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Juski:

but something has set it to /usr/htdocs

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Neeesat25:

xris: On what dev I will have to fix the permitions /dev/?

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D-side:

Juski: interesting. i dont know of anything that defaults to that path.

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D-side:

Juski: might want to emerge rkhunter. :)

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Juski:

rkhunter?

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D-side:

rootkit hunter. far better than chkrootkit IMO.

[17:23:28]

D-side:

I'm not seriously suggesting that you've been rooted, but it might be nice to have on there.

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Neeesat25:

xris: I have change to "su root" but still got the same

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xris:

Neeesat25: do other programs like szap work?

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Juski:

hell.. if someone set my docroot to /usr ....

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D-side:

Juski: yeah.

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D-side:

provided it wasn't user error, and i get the feeling that you wouldnt do that

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Juski:

I have a new folder in /usr

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D-side:

uh.

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D-side:

whats it called

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D-side:

is that the htdocs one?

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scales:

so before when i asked about using the "repeat" function i have it entered as "repeat = 0" and when i hold down the button that i assigned it to it does not contiune to be pushed. is there some other option i need to enable?

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Juski:

it's not a dir.. it's a new file.. run-tests.php

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kormoc:

scales, http://www.lirc.org/html/configure.html

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D-side:

oh boy. read it, see if its a problem.

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kormoc:

scales, read where it talks about what to set it to for what

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kormoc:

scales, given right now, you set it to never repeat...

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kormoc:

that's part of mod_php

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scales:

ok brb

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kormoc:

/usr/lib/php5/lib/php/build/run-tests.php is where it lives on my box

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procyon:

is it possible to have mythgame change the resolution before starting say zsnes

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** Spida doesn't think that any hacker worth his money would allow rootkithunter to emerge in a way that it would find him. **

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xris:

kormoc: assuming that it's actually that file

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kormoc:

true enough

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D-side:

Spida: hah.

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kormoc:

md5sum c2dfd8e661bbae784ae79de8353f9d3a /usr/lib/php5/lib/php/build/run-tests.php

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D-side:

you totally overestimate the kiddie community

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D-side:

Juski: just a thought. any chance this is related to your minimyth building?

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Spida:

D-side: oh, kiddies, ok.

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Juski:

this is weird. my apache stuff is still configured to look in /var/www/foo, yet when I go to the root of the server, it's looking in /usr

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D-side:

er

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Juski:

D-side: possibly, but I gave up on that ages ago

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D-side:

then YOUR apache stuff isnt running.

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kormoc:

Juski, check vhosts? apache2 -S should show all active vhosts (on port 80)

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Spida:

D-side: but i am paranoid enough to flatten a box once I THINK that anybody except me has root on it.

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D-side:

Juski: perhaps a netstat -anp is in order.

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D-side:

Spida: not a bad plan really.

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Neeesat25:

xris: what is zlap?

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xris:

Neeesat25: huh? I said szap

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procyon:

is it possible to have mythgame change the resolution before starting say zsnes

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bluey-:

anyone using Cool'n'Quit?

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kormoc:

bluey-, not really, as they all quit.

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bluey-:

do you found a method to use powernowd without cool'n'quit? just asking because it's limiting undervolting

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Neeesat25:

xris: what is szap?

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kormoc:

bluey-, all you can do is try and talk to people who likely know, such as the powernowd people.

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xris:

Neeesat25: you're using a dvb-s card, right?

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bluey-:

well i guess i'm gonna try it

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Neeesat25:

yes

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Neeesat25:

Happauge dvb-s NEXUS

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xris:

Neeesat25: then you should probably install the dvb utils package and at least make sure the card is set up properly first.

[17:47:33]

xris:

which includes szap

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Neeesat25:

ok

[17:52:05]

Neeesat25:

szap is installed

[17:52:15]

Neeesat25:

How I can see if my card is working?

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xris:

you'll have to read the instructions for those tools

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xris:

also, you should use `sudo su -` or `su -` for su.. `su root` doesn't import the proper root environment

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Neeesat25:

I have try sudo

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xris:

well, sudo is just so you use your own password.. only works if it's configured to allow your user to connect (only distro I know of that does this properly for normal users is ubuntu)

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xris:

the dash is the important bit, though.. tells su to use root's environment instead of the current user environment.. which means you get things like /sbin in your path, etc.

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scales:

ok now after reading that page, 0 means it will not repeat, and if i say 1, it will repeat the button every 1 second? what it i want it just to constantly repeat whenever i hold the button down

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Neeesat25:

I have login as root and run mythtv-setup but I got the same problem

[17:59:23]

Neeesat25:

I will play a bit with it and see if my card is propertly working before continue

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xris:

Neeesat25: you need to try first with the dvb commandline tools to make sure you have the drivers set up properly, etc.

[18:00:18]

Neeesat25:

Yes thats the one I will go for first

[18:00:44]

Neeesat25:

But tommorow, Thats it for me at the momment

[18:00:52]

Neeesat25:

Thanks xris

[18:03:43]

xris:

Neeesat25: good luck

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scales:

xris: input on that repeat question

[18:06:50]

xris:

scales: I believe that setting is for catching remotes that send too many signals... but I'm not sure.

[18:07:04]

scales:

humm

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kormoc:

repeat is to send a second signal after receiving X number of signals from the remote

[18:09:11]

kormoc:

as per the docs that I linked you to.

[18:09:45]

** Hoxzer kitsahti **

[18:10:23]

Hoxzer:

like -> I setup tv-out -> restart while VGA plugged -> I have good tv-out -> I unplug VGA cable -> I get no tv-out :D

[18:10:28]

Hoxzer:

and my whole system crashes

[18:10:32]

Hoxzer:

like "this makes sense

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scales:

so kormoc, how would i set it so that i could hold down the down, and the signal would constantly be sent and used

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xris:

scales: read the docs.. set it to like 3 or so

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scales:

k

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DrMitch:

When I'm watching Live TV, I have to change the contrast to 30% for it to be a decent image. But when I stop watching TV, the contrast resets back to 50%. is there a way I can save it at 30% ?

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scales:

ok guys last question for today, i think.... i am currently using isthmus for my OSD, love it but, doesnt show what channel i am on anywhere....is that part of the theme? i suppose i could edit that? or is it a font issue

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xris:

DrMitch: using xv color controls?

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DrMitch:

not a clue. how do i find out?

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DrMitch:

ooo, that works, thanks xris

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[Ex0r]:

LoneShadow, did you get Mythtv working with ubuntu ?

[19:32:19]

LoneShadow:

yea

[19:32:32]

[Ex0r]:

I can't install from source and the apt-get version won't let me start up mythtv-backend

[19:32:32]

LoneShadow:

you have dapper ?

[19:32:35]

[Ex0r]:

yeah

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russellb:

i'm running it from source on dapper

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[Ex0r]:

I ran the ./configure and than it gets to make mythtv.pro and says nothing to do

[19:33:21]

LoneShadow:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186747

[19:33:34]

LoneShadow:

http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html

[19:33:41]

LoneShadow:

see section 9.8 on second link

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[Ex0r]:

it's telling me i've gotta put some source files in sources.list

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LoneShadow:

you probably have it already

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LoneShadow:

enable multiverse and universe

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LoneShadow:

did you do debootstrap install, or install from cd ?

[19:37:00]

[Ex0r]:

i used multiverse

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LoneShadow:

this is my sources.lst http://pastebin.ca/78095

[19:38:49]

[Ex0r]:

yeah, still didn't work

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LoneShadow:

what dosnt work ?

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[Ex0r]:

i cant cd to /opt/src

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LoneShadow:

oh lol

[19:39:26]

LoneShadow:

the sources.lst is for installing packages

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LoneShadow:

do "apt-get update"

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[Ex0r]:

already did

[19:39:42]

LoneShadow:

ok

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LoneShadow:

now you dont have /opt

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LoneShadow:

go to /usr/src

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[Ex0r]:

it's empty

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LoneShadow:

yea :D

[19:40:37]

LoneShadow:

now download the sources

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[Ex0r]:

k

[19:40:57]

LoneShadow:

wait a min, didnt you already download 0.19 source code ?

[19:41:03]

[Ex0r]:

yeah

[19:41:11]

[Ex0r]:

just couldn't get it to compile

[19:41:20]

LoneShadow:

where is it under ?

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[Ex0r]:

/home/justin/Desktop

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LoneShadow:

ppl usually compile sources either under /usr/src or /opt/src

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LoneShadow:

if you want you can continue on your destkop

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gardengnome:

umm

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[Ex0r]:

nah i moved it all

[19:42:43]

LoneShadow:

or move the myth*.tar.bz2 to /usr/src

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gardengnome:

21:42 < Falballa> gardengnome: 'ubuntu' could be Hamstas MythTV repo für Dapper: 'deb http://hamsta.net/mythtv/files/dapper ./'

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LoneShadow:

nice :D

[19:43:40]

LoneShadow:

just add this into your sources.lst

[19:43:42]

LoneShadow:

and give it a try

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gardengnome:

no warranties, complain to hamsta if things catch fire

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LoneShadow:

heh

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gardengnome:

and take pictures, might be fun :)

[19:45:02]

LoneShadow:

so [Ex0r], you can give the hamsta's repos, it might easier than building from scratch

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LoneShadow:

s/give/try

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[Ex0r]:

make: Nothing to be done for `mythtv.pro'.

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[Ex0r]:

that's the error I get every single time I do make mythtv.pro

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LoneShadow:

see section 9.8 on http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html

[19:47:10]

LoneShadow:

you need to use qmake mythtv.pro

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LoneShadow:

and then just make

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[Ex0r]:

I don't HAVE qmake

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LoneShadow:

install it :D

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[Ex0r]:

screw that. I'll just add the hamsta repo

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LoneShadow:

apt-get build-dep mythtv

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LoneShadow:

apt-get build-dep mythplugins

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LoneShadow:

if you do this, it should install qmake

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[Ex0r]:

I did do that.

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LoneShadow:

hmm

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[Ex0r]:

deb http://hamsta.net/mythtv/files/dapper ./

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[Ex0r]:

is the correct entry for sources.list no ?

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LoneShadow:

apt-get install qt3-dev-tools

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LoneShadow:

yea the deb entry should be fine

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[Ex0r]:

i think it installed

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LoneShadow:

http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Ubuntu

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[Ex0r]:

lol, 15 minutes to compile

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LoneShadow:

how fast your machine ?

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LoneShadow:

is*

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[Ex0r]:

ive gotta leave in two so i'll let it go while it's compiling

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[Ex0r]:

1.6ghz

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LoneShadow:

think mythplugins will need another 15mins or so :D

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[Ex0r]:

that won't be bad when i get home and can do it through the night

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LoneShadow:

I think it took me around half an hour on 2ghz p4 over nfs

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[Ex0r]:

but i gotta leave for work. Page bookmarked and will be done when I get home.

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LoneShadow:

good luck

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[Ex0r]:

ty

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sphenxes:

What video card (one that can receive satellite transmission) would work with linux? is there any home page to find compatible hardware? "SuSE 10.1"

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gardengnome:

sphenxes: there's a hardware database for suse, iirc. somewhere on their website.

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kormoc:

sphenxes, I don't think there are any videocard/dvb combo cards. linuxtv.org for hardware listings for linux in general

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sphenxes:

thanks

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Juski:

oh gawd. I have a terrible feeling I've had this problem before. got apache working again, got php5.. but.. I still can't get mythweb to work despite everything

[20:05:01]

achew22:

what error?

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Juski:

well if I enable AllowOverride All , apache2 stops working

[20:06:01]

Juski:

if I set it to None again, apache2 works but mythweb doesnt

[20:06:06]

Anduin:

Juski: works here

[20:06:13]

Juski:

yes...

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achew22:

set it in your .htaccess file

[20:06:16]

Juski:

I bet it does

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Juski:

worked here like 24 hours ago

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Anduin:

achew22: You can't, by then it is too late.

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achew22:

just giving ideas here

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Juski:

hang on.. it's bloody working now

[20:07:17]

achew22:

YAY!

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D-side:

haha

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Juski:

so I wasn't doing anything wrong

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Juski:

apart from maybe just not waiting for it to get its arse into gear :-/

[20:09:19]

achew22:

is there a way to move your commercial flag list into the cutlist automaticaly?

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Juski:

not AFAIK

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gardengnome:

achew22: yep, mythcommflag --help

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achew22:

gardengnome: I was under the impression that that rescanned it

[20:09:52]

Speedy2:

sphenxes: Where are you located? For DVB-S or DVB-T?

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gardengnome:

achew22: --help :)

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achew22:

i'm at the wiki article for it

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kormoc:

Juski, that's funny, I have a userjob setup just to do exactly that :)

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sphenxes:

Speedy2, Austria,

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Juski:

hey I said AFAIK...

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Juski:

we UK users don't get much joy out of commflagging

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Juski:

so I don't use it much

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kormoc:

heh, fair nuff

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bagleabuse:

kormoc: what does it look like?

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Juski:

but the option is ... just for achew22 ... --gencutlist

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Spida:

hm, in my mythweb, the "recorded programs" page doesn't work... (it doesn't load, everything else works, though)

[20:14:01]

achew22:

I've got my script setup like this right now, directory=$1;file=$2;mythcommflag --file $directory/$file --gencutlist

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Spida:

anybody seen this?

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kormoc:

/usr/bin/mythcommflag -s %STARTTIME% -c HANID% --gencutlist

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kormoc:

erm

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kormoc:

/usr/bin/mythcommflag -s %STARTTIME% -c %CHANID% --gencutlist

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achew22:

I was going to say — never heard of the hanid... and it sounds a little dirty

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Cardoe:

kormoc: so what's wrong with the mythtv ebuild

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kormoc:

nothing actually... I had an issue with the card being slightly unseated

[20:20:27]

kormoc:

it sucked, it would randomly not record things. figured it was myth, but reseating the card fixed it

[20:20:56]

Cardoe:

ok

[20:21:16]

Cardoe:

So basically the fun Cardoe/gentoo bashing spree from the other night was totally unfounded.

[20:21:38]

kormoc:

hrm? what Cardoe gentoo bashing spree?

[20:22:23]

Cardoe:

some user was having problem with installing on gentoo

[20:22:29]

Cardoe:

didn't comprehend all the use flags

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kormoc:

ahh, ickyness :/

[20:23:03]

Cardoe:

didn't comprehend why he couldn't just turn on XvMC without compiling it with the USE flag.

[20:23:16]

Cardoe:

so xris and Dagmar and some others ganged up

[20:23:26]

Cardoe:

xris said that you have tons of problems with myth on gentoo

[20:23:38]

Cardoe:

and you've had some complaints about the ebuild which i wouldn't listen to

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Cardoe:

and that i need to be replaced as maintainer

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** kormoc shrugs **

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xris:

I didn't say "tons of problems"

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Cardoe:

right now I'm getting annoyed with the frontend

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Cardoe:

because it segfaults

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Cardoe:

but when run via gdb it does not

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kormoc:

I had that issue at first too. I had to recompile it and it was fine. Not sure what was the matter, figured it was just a wacky compile.

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Cardoe:

there we go

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Spida:

anybody got a clue, why the recorded programs page in mythweb could be not working, while all the rest works?

[20:27:44]

Cardoe:

got it to segfault via gdb

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kormoc:

Spida, do they exist on the drive?

[20:28:30]

kormoc:

Cardoe, speaking of which, I have a patch that should really get applied.

[20:28:53]

Cardoe:

kormoc: sure

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D-side:

i'm afraid of bumping 0.4.5 to 0.6.3.

[20:29:20]

kormoc:

Cardoe, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . ;010;#211447

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D-side:

Cardoe: assuage my fears.

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kormoc:

Cardoe, it will allow you to delete recordings that do not exist on the drive. Currently it's broken.

[20:29:57]

Cardoe:

D-side: going to a 2.6.16 kernel?

[20:30:34]

D-side:

no, its .15, but >=0.4 is keyworded.

[20:30:55]

D-side:

i've already stopped that nonsense, i was just curious as to whether i'd want to.

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Spida:

kormoc: what should exist? the recordings? yes.

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kormoc:

fair nuff. I've noticed that if myth thinks the recording exists, but it actaully doesn't, it won't show up in mythweb

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Spida:

kormoc: the whole page doesn't load. it simply times out

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kormoc:

anything in the logs?

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Spida:

kormoc: nothing except the http get in apache acceslog

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dev:

wow, anyone else lose SPEED over the weekend? cablevision sucks!

[20:38:59]

kormoc:

icky :/

[20:39:27]

GreyFoxx:

dev: Nope, my connection is still chugging alone happily :)

[20:39:38]

GreyFoxx:

s/alone/along

[20:39:48]

dev:

yeah its the north east who lost speed and soapnet on analog cable

[20:39:56]

dev:

dont give 2 shits about soapnet, but speed i do ;/

[20:40:06]

dev:

the best was calling up cablevision, and being told it was speed who did it

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dev:

then calling up speed and being told it was cablevision and how they were getting complaints from people all day who were lied to by their cable provider

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dev:

funny shit

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GreyFoxx:

Who exactly is "

[20:41:01]

GreyFoxx:

speed" ?

[20:41:02]

GreyFoxx:

:)

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dev:

its a channel

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GreyFoxx:

ahhh ok

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D-side:

car racing and such

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dev:

in the us

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GreyFoxx:

When you referred to speed I assumed you were referring to the speed of your netconnections

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GreyFoxx:

not to a channel

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GreyFoxx:

hehe

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dev:

hah

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dev:

lots of shows i cant watch now, what a bummer

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dev:

one of only a couple channels i actually recorded content from

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GreyFoxx:

hehe

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dev:

tlc/dsc/hist/spike/speed thats about it

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GreyFoxx:

I probably only record from 10 channels "on average"

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Spida:

kormoc: yes

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dev:

i feel bad for speed, they're going to lose alot of viewers becasue of this

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dev:

im sure im not abnormal in the fact my cable company can go screw themselves im not renting boxes to watch tv heh

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dev:

pay enough for basic cable + internet

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dev:

heh

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Cardoe:

can someone give me the result from the following command on their myth box

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Cardoe:

xdpyinfo | grep resolution

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janneg:

Cardoe: resolution: 99x98 dots per inch

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kormoc:

Cardoe, resolution: 75x75 dots per inch

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Cardoe:

I have 203x203

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kormoc:

yes, I told you the other day that's ultra wrong :P

[20:53:31]

kormoc:

cause with your res, that screen is something like 6.5" by 4" or so

[20:53:31]

gardengnome:

resolution: 100x100 dots per inch

[20:53:45]

Zider:

75x75

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kormoc:

Cardoe, http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1/2006 . . . -06-27:21:00

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Hoxzer:

shee fill my bed with gasolineeeeeeee....

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Hoxzer:

Theory of the deadman – santa monica

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Cardoe:

kormoc: yes

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Cardoe:

I know you did

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kormoc:

Cardoe, just set the proper display size and it will figure out the correct DPI

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janneg:

Cardoe: you can set the real display size in the monitor section of xorg.conf with "DisplaySize (horizontal size in mm) (vertical)"

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gardengnome:

i do startx — -dpi 100.

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gardengnome:

saves me lots of trouble :)

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kormoc:

gardengnome, while that 'works' it can sometimes screw with things like fonts that expect to know the actaul dpi

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gardengnome:

kormoc: AFAIK, mythtv is designed to run on 100dpi displays.

[20:58:18]

janneg:

aka the windows solution

[20:58:43]

kormoc:

that is true, but qt was designed to run on proper dpi displays, and myth doesn't really seem to care :)

[20:59:06]

gardengnome:

kormoc: this box is dedicated to mythtv, so i don't really care. :)

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kormoc:

heh, fair nuff

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kormoc:

the other thing a proper dpi allows is better scaling and playback, as it's a true per-pixel mapping.

[21:00:05]

kormoc:

most people don't seem to notice

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scales:

and where do we check the dpi?

[21:01:04]

kormoc:

scales, buy running the command Cardoe gave, it gives the DPI

[21:01:49]

scales:

i missed his command code, i dont think i was in the room yet

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janneg:

scales: xdpyinfo | grep resolution

[21:02:21]

scales:

k

[21:03:00]

scales:

humm, i get an "unable to open display"".

[21:03:13]

kormoc:

are you in X?

[21:03:19]

scales:

yes

[21:03:25]

scales:

oh

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scales:

wait, x is open, but i am ssh

[21:03:42]

Cardoe:

(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:

[21:03:42]

Cardoe:

(II) NVIDIA(0): "nvidia-auto-select"

[21:03:42]

Cardoe:

(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 720

[21:03:42]

Cardoe:

(--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (203, 203); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config option

[21:03:42]

Cardoe:

(--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp

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kormoc:

Cardoe, aye, your display is normal in it gives back bad edID data.

[21:05:16]

scales:

humm i am 67x66 dpi

[21:05:23]

scales:

maybe i should change that

[21:05:29]

scales:

to 100x100?

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kormoc:

you might not want to do that. you need to know the size of the display in inches (height and width) and the screen res to calculate the proper DPI

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scales:

i see. well i am using a tv prob not worth it

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scales:

what OSD do you guys use?

[21:07:20]

kormoc:

default

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Cardoe:

kormoc: the book says I should use 1360x768

[21:07:28]

Cardoe:

but it's using 1280x720

[21:07:46]

scales:

i was using ithmus, and i like it, but it doesnt display the channel

[21:07:49]

kormoc:

Cardoe, well, switch the res then

[21:08:20]

kormoc:

Cardoe, I would disable edID and ddc for now, and get it working manually if I was you

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scales:

could it be my fonts/size? i notice that other things, like the weather, sometimes get cut off

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kormoc:

it could be

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scales:

well when anyone else uses ithmus can you see the channel number? if so where is it located

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scales:

anyone know what the name of the package that allows me to read ntfs partitions is?

[21:15:45]

Cardoe:

kormoc: well I switched it to 96 x 96

[21:15:48]

Cardoe:

the fonts look fine

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Cardoe:

except in config screens

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Cardoe:

it still extends past the left and right sides

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Anduin:

scales: It is in the Fedora FAQ

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scales:

k

[21:18:08]

scales:

anyone use xmame?

[21:18:35]

scales:

curious if i could store my roms on an ntfs partition, and still access them all from xmame

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kormoc:

it mounts as a normal drive, so you should be able to no problems

[21:22:12]

kormoc:

writing to it might be a problem, but reading should be solid

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scales:

humm, i was just curious if xmame needed to write some sort of temp file when it opened a rom

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kormoc:

usually on unix, that's what /tmp is for

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scales:

odd, yum install kmod-ntfs , didnt do anything

[21:23:22]

scales:

what is that command to check if i have it installed?

[21:23:53]

scales:

i will have to mount it to a folder, like yesterday,

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xris:

scales: yum info

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xris:

or rpm -q

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xris:

or rpm -qa | grep

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scales:

k

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scales:

humm, kmod-ntfs doesnt exist

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scales:

that is what fedora faq told me to download

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scales:

wonder if it is at a different rpm

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xris:

scales: you need the livna repository

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scales:

yep

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scales:

on it

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Spida:

ok, loading the mythweb "recorded programs"-page takes now (after backend restart) about 20seconds. in this time, i have some network activity during mythweb and the backen (which are on the same machine)

[21:42:03]

xris:

Spida: every time you load the page, or just the first time?

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Spida:

when I comment out generate_preview_pixmap() from recorded.php, it loads instantly

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Spida:

xris: every time.

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xris:

it's probably the thumbnail generation stuff.. but that should only happen once.

[21:42:51]

Spida:

mythweb and backend on the same machine, browser connected with 100MBit

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Spida:

xris: so, why is it always regenerating (or at least, refetching) the thumbnails?

[21:43:27]

xris:

it shouldn't

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xris:

unless it can't cache them properly

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Anduin:

data dir perms?

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kormoc:

well, it would refetch, as they're stored on the backend, no?

[21:43:56]

xris:

kormoc: same machine, though.

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kormoc:

ooh, strange

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scales:

xris: i added a good hunk of button configs to your mce lircrc file for xine. if you want i can post them

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scales:

just to save you some work

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Spida:

mythweb data/cache: drwxr-xr-x 4 apache apache

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xris:

scales: yeah, would appreciate it. I'll bug you tonight when I'm home and can poke ar it.

[21:44:50]

xris:

at it.

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scales:

k

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scales:

i will try to be around

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xris:

Spida: delete all of the files in the cache.

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scales:

and it all does work, i tested it

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scales:

i still am lookin into sim linking the .lircrc file with myth's lircrc file

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xris:

hmm, apparently mythtv got mentioned in linuxjournal again.

[21:49:14]

Spida:

xris: after deleting all files in the cache and the .png in the video-dir on the server: 30seconds for the first load of the page, 18 seconds for the second load

[21:50:02]

xris:

how many recordings do you have?

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scales:

so is fat the only type of partition that both linux and windows can read and write to?

[21:51:00]

xris:

hnm, yeah, it's at least that slow for me

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kormoc:

ntfs does have writing abilitys on linux, you'll just need to research it a bit

[21:51:33]

kormoc:

also, windows has explore2fs (ext2) viewer

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scales:

i saw that, it still is in beta? or testing?

[21:51:42]

Spida:

xris: 29 recordings

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kormoc:

both?

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xris:

scales: what are you trying to do?

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xris:

Spida: and how fast is your system? (not that it should matter)

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Spida:

xris: pentium-m 1.4Ghz, 1GB ram

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scales:

well, my main mythtv storage space is only 60 gigs

[21:52:58]

xris:

nevermind. mine's more like 8–10 seconds for 50 recordings, and that includes connect time over dsl/cable

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scales:

i have 20 + gigs of roms, bout 7 gigs of music, on an external usb ntfs drive

[21:53:38]

Spida:

xris: it seems that the time is just for data transfre between backennd and mythweb

[21:53:53]

xris:

Spida: there shouldn't be that much data going back and forth, though...

[21:53:59]

xris:

question, are you running, 19, fixes or svn?

[21:54:16]

scales:

i can change that drive to any linux partition i want, but i would like to be able to store all of my roms, and music on it, while possibly being able to add/remove files from a networked windows machine

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Spida:

xris: 19

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scales:

internal would be the absolute best way, but until i can buy another internal hdd (prob about 200 gigs), this will have to do

[21:55:19]

kormoc:

scales, if you're just looking at a different computer accessing it via the network, just use samba

[21:55:31]

xris:

Spida: I vaguely recall fixing something related to speed... I think it was the main listings page, though, not the recorded programs page.

[21:55:38]

xris:

it's worth upgrading to .19-fixes, though.

[21:56:06]

scales:

well, that is half of it,

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jerky_2:

xris, when was .19-fixes released? or are you just saying that people should run the latest version compiled from CVS?

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scales:

i suppose i should just reformat it

[21:56:20]

scales:

but

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xris:

jerky_2: wasn't, never will be. .19-fixes refers to the branch in svn that .19.1 will be released from.

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scales:

reformatting it isnt that easy is it?

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xris:

no idea when .19.1 will come out because most of the packagers have been pulling from the fixes branch so most users are already up to date.

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scales:

right now it mounts under /media/sda1

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scales:

i believe

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Spida:

xris: media-tv/mythtv-0.19_p10281

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scales:

humm

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xris:

scales: pretty easy

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jerky_2:

ok thanks, i will probably do that some time :)

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Led-Hed:

I had something wierd happen to my myth the other day. My backend's storage was maxed out (1TB), but there were only a few recordings listed. So I checked the Recordings directory and there were hundreds of .mpg. So I checked the DB, and there were hundreds of shows listed in the "recorded" table. Strange that they werent showing up on the frontends. Anyhow I had to delete them manually...

[22:02:16]

Led-Hed:

any ideas what would cause this?

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Spida:

xris: any idea?

[22:02:59]

xris:

Spida: no clue.. would have to figure out where the slowdown is happening... like if it's regenerating the thumbnails every time

[22:03:12]

scales:

brb

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xris:

for those who are interested, there's a nice article about mythtv *hardware* in linuxjournal this month.

[22:04:05]

GreyFoxx:

Is it online? Or paper only ?

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Spida:

xris: http://www.spida.net/tmp/powerusage.html

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BHRob:

does anyone know of anyone having put mythtv in a car pc and controlling things like fm radio and whatnot?

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kormoc:

BHRob, given myth has no support for fm radios, doubtful

[22:10:13]

kormoc:

BHRob, yet alone all the legal issues there might be, depending on where you are

[22:10:19]

BHRob:

what about any other mythtv alternative like freevo?

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Led-Hed:

BHRob: I have a Mini-ITX/Via EPIA in my car

[22:10:45]

BHRob:

and what are you using as a frontend?

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Led-Hed:

that is the frontend, and backend for that matter

[22:11:19]

BHRob:

epia?

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Led-Hed:

http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/ . . . board_id=261

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BHRob:

ok, but what software is used?

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Led-Hed:

Myth

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BHRob:

like pycar?

[22:14:40]

BHRob:

oh

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Led-Hed:

it only acts as a MP3/DVD jukebox

[22:15:33]

BHRob:

gotcha

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Led-Hed:

and Mame jukebox

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Led-Hed:

doesnt control radio

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Led-Hed:

though I suppose it could with an FM tunner card. But that wont fit in my case.

[22:16:59]

Led-Hed:

there is a Nano-ITX form factor that might fit in an In-Dash case

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Aid`:

what does Ku do versus C-BAND?

[22:51:15]

bagleabuse:

Led-Hed what kind of in-dash case?

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Led-Hed:

bagleabuse: I dont have an in dash case. I'm just saying, with enough modding you might be able to fit the Nano-ITX in dash

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bagleabuse:

how big is your dash?

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Achew22:

Led-Hed There is a rather large forum on this kind of stuff at mp3car.(com|org)

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Achew22:

Led-Hed I'm going to put a itx or atx in my car at some point, and I am planning on running a VGA extension cable and USB cable to the front of the car and have the important stuff in the trunk

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Led-Hed:

ya, I was just saying that the Nano is small enough that you could fit it into a standard car stereo slot. Not sure if a case for this purpose already exists or not though

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Achew22:

how tall is the board?

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Achew22:

Led-Hed sine I guess you dissapeared.... I would look into PCI riser cards, they allow you to put the card on the board at a 90 degree angle but with an added inch of room so that it wont collide with the stuff on the board

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Achew22:

kormoc: A few hours ago you gave me a sample userjob to try out to see if it worked for me. Does it work for you? It gets queued up but doesn't go anywhere and it has been like this for a couple of hours.

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Led-Hed:

here, phone call

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Led-Hed:

Achew22: my case cant accomidate a riser.

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** GreyFoxx starts looking over mp3car.com's storeand starts to pine for a carpc again. **

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Achew22:

okay, sorry about that

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Achew22:

my internet is sucking

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kormoc:

Achew22, yes, it works for me

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kormoc:

did you enable the user job in mythtv-setup, and did you enable it for the recording profiles?

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Achew22:

hrm...

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Achew22:

it doesn't fit in there? how so?

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Achew22:

do you have a link to the case?

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scales:

xris: you around?

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xris:

?

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scales:

wanted to know when you would be back asking for the lircrc file

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xris:

it's 4:20 pm here now

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xris:

another hour and a half before I'll be home

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scales:

k

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scales:

should i just post it in a post bin and you can get it whenever?

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xris:

I'll lose it

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scales:

ok

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xris:

but go ahead.. I can wget it from here

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scales:

http://pastebin.ca/78264

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xris:

ok, got it. thanks

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scales:

k

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riddlebox:

hello, is a nuv file able to be burned to a dvd and played or do I have to convert it to mpeg?

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xris:

riddlebox: is it nupplevideo or just an mpg file that happens to have a nuv suffix?

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riddlebox:

xris, should just be a mpg file that has it, I have a pvr_500

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xris:

riddlebox: mythtv .18, then?

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riddlebox:

mythtv-0.19

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xris:

old recording?

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xris:

.19 will use the proper suffix

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riddlebox:

it will be one that I record tomorow

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scales:

xris: i downloaded explore2fs, but i cannot write to it from windows, i can only view. is that correct? should i only be able to copy from ext3 to windows, not the other way around?

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xris:

scales: no clue

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scales:

k

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xris:

riddlebox: unless you're transcoding, the file will come in as .mpg

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riddlebox:

xris, ohh

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xris:

if you just burn that straight to dvd, it will work in MOST dvd players, but because of bugs in the ivtv stream, it will have AV sync problems on some players.

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xris:

thus, it's always best to reencode.

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riddlebox:

xris, use transcode to encode it then?

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xris:

riddlebox: mythburn, nuv2disk, take your pick

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riddlebox:

ok thank you

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xris:

riddlebox: ffmpeg is faster than transcode for mpeg encoding, too

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riddlebox:

ok thanks

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xris:

but mythburn/mytharchive/nuv2disk will do that for you

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riddlebox:

so I need ffmpeg to run them

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xris:

depends on the program

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riddlebox:

xris, also when I reboot mythbackend does not start up automatically

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xris:

you probably need to enable the sysv init script that came with your distro

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xris:

anyone know what package is required to get mythmusic to include aac support?

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Achew22:

xris: libcdaudio?

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xris:

Achew22: that's cd audio, not aac

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Achew22:

isn't aac cd only?

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xris:

it *should* be faad2-devel and/or faac-devel

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xris:

no, aac is apple's audio format

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xris:

oh, looks like it just wasn't in my package's configure string

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Achew22:

nice...

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Achew22:

thats totaly an error I would make

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schtinky:

need some pcHDTV help: I've got the card installed and working with getatsc to get a simple stream. I can dtvscan for channels off-the-air and get reception... but I don't know how to get QAM stuff. I have my cable line installed, how do I scan for channels?

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xris:

well, I always build packages.. rarely check my configure strings.

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Achew22:

ahh

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xris:

schtinky: you pay for digital cable, right?

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schtinky:

xris, yes

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Achew22:

schtinky: there is a scan button I beleive

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schtinky:

scan button?

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schtinky:

on what?

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Achew22:

one sec — leme pull up mythsetup

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schtinky:

I downloaded linuxtv-dvb-apps and did (what I think was) a QAM scan

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schtinky:

and it showed me a list "dumping lists (128 services)" of some channels

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schtinky:

there wouldn't be 128 digital channels would there?

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xris:

schtinky: mythtv-setup

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Achew22:

you have 128 qam channels?!

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Achew22:

xris: I thought only local channels were qam? arent others encrypted?

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schtinky:

Achew22, I'm not sure

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xris:

schtinky: only OTA channels are clear

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xris:

if you want the others, you should get an HD box and use firewire

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Achew22:

or jump forward in time, buy a cable card and come back

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schtinky:

xris: I set up a second (digital) channel lineup at zap2it datadirect and used mythtv-setup to get those channels

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schtinky:

xris: which seemed to work fine... but how do I watch the channels

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Achew22:

I bought a power strip yesterday with 15 plugs. So exciting

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schtinky:

anytime I go to "watch tv" it just shows analog stuff

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Achew22:

push 'y' to switch inputs

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schtinky:

hmmm

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Achew22:

I'm going to go play piano, I hope xris can help you and good luck

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schtinky:

when I push Y the screen goes black

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schtinky:

then goes back to the main menu

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schtinky:

I only have one card in there, a pchdtv 5500

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schtinky:

it's doing my analog as well as digital

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schtinky:

is that setup ok?

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xris:

schtinky: back in 15

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Mrgoose:

hello

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schtinky:

I removed my analog device in mythtv-setup and have only the pcHDTV input with my digital cable lineup from zap2it... now when I try to "watch TV" I get a blank screen for a few seconds and then it dumps to the main menu. The output error is something about RingBuf and Invalid file (fd 16) when opening

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riddlebox:

xris, how would I enable the sysv init script for ubuntu, I can do /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start?

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